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Gavin Newsom Declares California a "Nation-State," Suggesting It is Independent of Federal Authority, as Chinese Propaganda Outlet Bloomberg News Masturbates Over "Civil War"

Via Instapundit.

As several people I know always say: Let's get it on.

California this week declared its independence from the federal government's feeble efforts to fight Covid-19 -- and perhaps from a bit more.... The implications for the brewing civil war between Trumpism and America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate, are less clear.

Speaking on MSNBC, Governor Gavin Newsom said that he would use the bulk purchasing power of California "as a nation-state" to acquire the hospital supplies that the federal government has failed to provide. If all goes according to plan, Newsom said, California might even "export some of those supplies to states in need."

"Nation-state." "Export."

...

Third, and this may be the most enduring effect, Newsom is sending a powerful message to both political parties. So far, the Republican Party's war on democratic values, institutions and laws has been a largely one-sided affair...

LOL.

...with the GOP assaulting and the Democratic Party defending....

At some point this civil war by other means, with the goal of enshrining GOP minority rule, will provoke a Democratic counteroffensive....

What that means, of course, is left to the imagination. But not much is required to envision what might evolve.

Look, either formally secede -- with my enthusiastic Bon voyage! -- or get ready for invocation of the Insurrection Act and civil war by the usual means.

We're not going to have this bullshit where every state has to buckle under leftwing federal diktats but that liberal states are free to secede-in-part whenever the federal government is not leftwing.

If America isn't working for you anymore -- Leave.

We can work out the details later. I suggest that all border counties be permitted to vote to leave or stay on a county-by-county basis. We don't need to keep states intact when we're dividing the country.

Then I suggest we mutually agree that any citizen of one America has the right to move to the other America as a citizen within five years of division. After five years, you're a foreign immigrant like any other, and the countries can choose to accept or reject your request for citizenship as they like.

The five year period will permit a lot of self-sorting. The internet and automated systems will permit a lot of simple property swaps -- you list your house and its appraised value online so that other people seeking to swap nations can find a near-equivalent home. You and your counterparty agree to trade, probably with one coughing up some cash (because few exchanges of property involve precisely equal values of property).

(Property swaps associated with country-swapping will not be taxed by anyone.)

We fashion an automated system to help businesses relocate -- if a dentist wants to swap countries, he'll need to know which areas need dentists and which have too many.

We leave it to most people to figure out for themselves if they want to move immediately, or wait and see, or whatever. We make the population exchange as easy and as inexpensive as possible.

But you got five years to decide, and then we build that Big Beautiful Wall.

And what about people who can't make up their minds in five years...? Well, if they can't make up their minds in eight fucking years, then it's not a very important choice for them, and they can sit their lazy indecisive asses where they started.

I only want go-getters and self-starters in the Real America, anyway.

And then we go our separate ways -- forever.

Take your shithole country and get the fuck out of mine.

(I changed the 8 year free immigration limit to five years -- which was my original thought anyway.)



Posted by: Ace at 04:07 PM




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1 G;uh!

Posted by: Blutarski at April 09, 2020 04:07 PM (VNfwt)

2 first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:07 PM (zZbCU)

3 dammit

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:07 PM (zZbCU)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 09, 2020 04:08 PM (arJlL)

5 meep meep motherfuckers

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:08 PM (d7Ww2)

6 AYFKM, Newsom?

Posted by: Purple Drank Afficianado at April 09, 2020 04:09 PM (bDqIh)

7 I hate California. Real bad. Yes I do.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:09 PM (o2MD2)

8 Now we can be like Genoa in the 1340s, a powerful nation-state...

...that was the epicenter of the Black Plague. Oooops.

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:09 PM (N9G0H)

9 I remember calls for Texas to secede during the Obama years as being classified as either crazy or racist.

Am I the only one?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:10 PM (zZbCU)

10 I say let them go and good riddance to them.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 09, 2020 04:10 PM (JUOKG)

11 "and America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate,"

And the prize for delusional quote of the day goes to.......

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:10 PM (e284m)

12 California this week declared its independence from the federal government's feeble efforts to fight Covid-19

Fuck Bloomberg.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:10 PM (hYcqw)

13 Most of the counties in California would vote to stay in the US. Same with Washington and Oregon.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (I2/tG)

14 >>>9 I remember calls for Texas to secede during the Obama years as being classified as either crazy or racist.

Am I the only one?

...

nope! It's always like that, though.

Which is why we need to get rid of these fucking people before we just start killing each other.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (PbpT7)

15 8 years is too long. 4 tops. I'd prefer 2.

Posted by: SkylerKat at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (SXIn9)

16 No currency, no diplomatic recognition. Gavin Newsome needs education in remedial international affairs and Constitutional law.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (b6kHD)

17 I live here and I hate it so. I hope the Trump administration gives it to us, good and hard. Not that it would make a difference to any lib here.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (a0IVu)

18 >>I only want go-getters and self-starters in the Real America, anyway.

So we don't get to come?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (ZLI7S)

19 Hi There, Gavin!

Posted by: The Insurrection Act! at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (I2/tG)

20 What this is, of course, is Newsom positioning himself for a 2024 run. He is the most politically ambitious man in America.

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (N9G0H)

21 Best week for the stock market since 1938.

No Democrat will tell you that. It's all DOOM, you're all gonna die and we must spend massive amounts of money and give it to our political interest groups to survive!!

And finally kill the republic!!

Even the Chinese bought and paid for WSJ didn't report this fact.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (VpIIl)

22 HAHAHA

Right when Hollywood is collapsing and movie theaters are closed?

Hell yeah.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - hilarious April 4 photo of NYC hospital staff using their gloves and masks at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (IwDj9)

23 >>>Most of the counties in California would vote to stay in the US. Same with Washington and Oregon.

well that would work. I'm sure that Idaho would vote to be in the Real America, so it's no tricky thing to include border counties in Real America.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (PbpT7)

24 Go ahead, Newsom.

Democrats will never win another national election in the 49-state US of A.

Ever. Again.

And how many House seats go down the drain?

Furthermore, does Pelosi become Queen?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (+fPHo)

25 An independent nation state doesn't get to participate in US elections.

Posted by: davidt at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (l3+k2)

26 See you in the morning, Gav.

Posted by: 1st Marine Light Armored Division, Camp Pendleton at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (rUpwv)

27 18 >>I only want go-getters and self-starters in the Real America, anyway.

So we don't get to come?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (ZLI7S)

==========

The new America's gonna need film critics and stoners. I think you and I will be good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (zZbCU)

28 I didn't understand this post at first. But then I realized it was just an excuse to roll out Badfinger. well done.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (LWu6U)

29 OH PLEASE, YAS!


Posted by: Ha at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (odrqb)

30
Am I the only one?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:10 PM (zZbCU)
Oh noes, I remember. Pepperidge Farm remembers too.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (e284m)

31
Look, either formally secede -- with my enthusiastic Bon voyage! -- or get ready for invocation of the Insurrection Act and civil war by the usual means.

------

*wipes tear

Im old enough to remember when Ace would chastise us for those sentiments. Is awesome when Ewoks evolve.

*sniff*

(TOTALLY emotional, non-corona response.)

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (nw6Hr)

32 What's funny is if CA left the USA, the Right in the 49 states would be perfectly happy with them creating Venezuela 2.0

But it would REALLY piss off CA liberals for the 49 states to have a more center-right nation next door to them.

There would be CONSTANT meddling from rich CA oligarchs in our elections, for the 5 years or so where rich people would be allowed to exist.

Liberals HAVE to rule over others to be happy.

Posted by: Blago at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (sjTfF)

33 Pull all federal funding from California immediately.

Posted by: DangerGirl the SanityProd(tm) is lost at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (ssqLp)

34 No, no, NO. As the Civil War proved, they will not leave us alone. If Trump wants to instantly and permanently lose my support, suggest secession. The land is ours. The illegals and traitors can fuck off to wherever will have them.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (AjgVK)

35 They'd be a shithole like Venezuala within a decade.

Posted by: SkylerKat at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (SXIn9)

36 >>>So we don't get to come?


Well I couldn't come to the go-getter America, either. I'm a lazy bitch.

Like Moses, I can point you to the promised land, but I cannot join you there.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (PbpT7)

37 But you got eight years to decide, and then we build that Big Beautiful Wall.
++++++++++++++++++
Disagree, Ace. 8 years is long enough to fuck up way too much. Just declare them as in rebellion, quarantine the ports and military bases and vital industrial plants, and establish martial law everywhere else. Cancel all state activities and place them under direct territorial control and impose a 50% wealth tax on all residents worth over $50 million to pay for the necessary expenses of occupation and reintegration. Forbid any and all travel from CA to the Union without a visa.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (hYcqw)

38 So glad we went completely bat guano crazy over this virus thing. The lifeblood transfusion the left needed. Wonderful job everyone.

Posted by: Daisy B at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (vaFpc)

39 Wait. Didn't we fight a bloody war to stop this sort of nonsense?

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (T09ml)

40 Well, CA is not a nation-state, but I will say this, NOT depending on the Federal Govt. is your fucking job, douche bag.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (r+sAi)

41 >>The implications for the brewing civil war between Trumpism and America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate, are less clear.


Trumpism
vs.
America's budding 21st-century majority - multiracial liberals


Who's starting a race war now?
And Newsom will be surprised to learn that his biggest tax revenue targets - Silicon Valley - won't feel any allegiance to his nation-state (they are so over borders and national sovereignty) and really, really don't want to pay taxes.

Good luck with that!
LOLGF

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (bDqIh)

42 That first paragraph from Bloomberg reads like a communist manifesto.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (oVJmc)

43 lol. What supplies has the federal government failed to provide? That's demonstrably false. They don't even need what they have.

And somebody please do send Gavin a book on federalism, and what he is responsible for as governor.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (VpIIl)

44 Battalion, we meant to say.

Posted by: 1st Marine Light Armored Division, Camp Pendleton at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (rUpwv)

45 Time to revoke California's right to vote in Federal elections. Remove their representatives and senators from the halls of congress.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (o2MD2)

46 Take your shithole country and get the fuck out of mine.

This. Yuge. Bigly.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (ptqGC)

47 I wouldn't give them eight years. By the eighth year, California will probably be more like Venezuela. Then they'd be begging to come here. Only to vote for the same garbage.

Posted by: abbynormal at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (I849g)

48 The first thing they'll do is pass universal healthcare.. which is great!

All of the really sick people from other states can move there!

And add on all the lazy ones who do not want to work or the ones working in their basements 12 hours a week..

Fuckin' Ayyyyyyy!

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on yer way out!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (CjFDo)

49 >>>42 That first paragraph from Bloomberg reads like a communist manifesto.

I wonder how THAT happened

tee hee hee

Posted by: Communist China Intelligence Services at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (PbpT7)

50 I like the revocation of statehood + reconstruction idea that's been mentioned here before.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (DTX3h)

51 Didn't the army just get a bunch of slightly used tanks from the marines?

I just though of a use for them.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (kOpft)

52 So Schlicter missed who started it
But was otherwise right.

Funny, the Teddy R plays a part in his most recent book too.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (e284m)

53 23 >>>Most of the counties in California would vote to stay in the US. Same with Washington and Oregon.

well that would work. I'm sure that Idaho would vote to be in the Real America, so it's no tricky thing to include border counties in Real America.

Posted by: ace


Look up "State of Jefferson." Northern CA and southern OR wanted to secede together in 1941 -- but ultimately abandoned the effort because splitterism was seen as unpatriotic when WWII broke out. But the same feelings still rumble -- "State of Jefferson" activism has been having a comeback recently. Mostly it's a desire to break away from the leftist control in Sacramento and Salem.

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (N9G0H)

54 "As several people I know always say: Let's get it on."

That would be me.

Posted by: Marvin Gaye at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (DMUuz)

55 Didn't Newsom give credit to Trump for his response to COVID-19 recently?

I don't think that I dreamed it. COVID-19 will be the excuse for a lot of left wing fantasies.

They haven't thought this one out.

Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (oiNtH)

56 Beating California in a civil war would take all of fifteen minutes. Just close the aqueduct on the Colorado River and watch how that turns out. Thirsty hippies.

Posted by: Orson at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (RAz50)

57 >>.47 I wouldn't give them eight years. By the eighth year, California will probably be more like Venezuela. Then they'd be begging to come here. Only to vote for the same garbage.

first I said five but then thought, I dunno, maybe people will say that's not enough time

maybe five was right

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (PbpT7)

58 Hmmm...up until recently Newsom has been saying that the feral gubmint has been helpful. I wonder what changed.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (ExV1e)

59 So, no more federal "benefits" for citizens of the new nation of California.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (+lVUW)

60 California has to pay their share of the national debt and all obligations as well. At 10% of US population that is 2.6 trillion dollars pus $20 trillion in future obligations. All federal land stays with the USA. all ports and highways paid by federal government has to be paid back... it will never work.
As a Californian, I can tell you leftists are pussies. They like to talk but do not back it up.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (pw+jk)

61 Nation-State of Californication to declare war on Nation-State of Texas

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (JFO2v)

62 So, Pelosi gone?

Posted by: Dingbat at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (KylN9)

63 The implications for the brewing civil war between Trumpism and America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate, are less clear.

Cancel Bloomberg's press credentials and put them on a "do not engage/do not purchase" list for the FedGov. This is outright racist propaganda. The entire first paragraph could have easily come from a poorly mimeographed communist newsletter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (hYcqw)

64 And then California can open the southern border and be officially known as Northern Mexico.

Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (xarPm)

65 defund them, pull the military, shut federal offices

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (ONvIw)

66 The defenestration of San Francisco would probably work fairly smooth like.

Posted by: klaftern at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (RuIsu)

67 I heard that nonsense spew from Newscum. It's typical garbage coming from him. He is saying it to set himself up to run for President in 2024.

Notice how solicitous he's been to Trump too.

He's not going to get in any food fights with Trump.

Unlike Cuomo, Newscum isn't whining about shortages of medical. He did say 25 million Californians were going to get sick but shined that one on...he can use it if he needs to.

And I think he's going to behave himself because Aunt Nanzi might not be speaker next year and Failfornia might need some Federal sugar.

Posted by: torabora at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (EIsdi)

68 That wasn't an article it was a screed of crazy. I have no idea what Newsom actually said or has done. For all I know it was a generic act to by supplies and if they have surplus to offer them to other states.



You'd get better information from Joey Choo-Choo right now than from that article.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sing the Isolation Blues with Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (GYAiq)

69 Time to revoke California's right to vote in Federal elections. Remove their representatives and senators from the halls of congress.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:13 PM (o2MD2)

Works for me..That alone would probably give us nack the HOuse

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (85Gof)

70 48 The first thing they'll do is pass universal healthcare.. which is great!

All of the really sick people from other states can move there!

And add on all the lazy ones who do not want to work or the ones working in their basements 12 hours a week..

Fuckin' Ayyyyyyy!

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on yer way out!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (CjFDo)

===========

Remember their effort to do that a few years ago?

It would have increased their budget by 200%. The only way to make that happen is to print their own money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (zZbCU)

71 That Colorado River compact, how does it work?

Posted by: mr tmz at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (m/Gc2)

72 All emergency response starts at the local level and then escalates.

So Newsom is really admitting that California Mayors, and he himself has failed.

Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (oiNtH)

73 Does this mean we can kick Nancy Piglosi and DiFi out?
Along with Adam Schitthead and Swallowswell?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (e284m)

74 These illogical, crapped out "news" articles are sad.

Look, states are already sovereign as made clear in the Constitution. If the feds aren't stopping you, YOU CAN ALREADY DO IT. "Nation" status is not required.

Is this acquisition of medical supplies against interstate trade law or something? Are they sending hordes into Nevada to steal supplies?

Posted by: goodluckduck at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (V8zw+)

75 "And then we go our separate ways -- forever."

No. I want my pound of flesh out of these assholes. The only way they'll ever leave me alone is if they're dead.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (jWe5r)

76 The Democrat Party has demonstrably tried to use this crisis as a political opportunity. We have the quotes from people like Clyburn and Pelosi. We also have text of the political bill they passed with every piece of subterfuge they could dream of in it.

But yeah, OK.

How about GTFO Gavin?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (VpIIl)

77 How many military bases stay with "Classic US". It is federal and not state land after all.

Posted by: Dempsy at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (sLVyZ)

78 Does this mean no federal bailout money for CA? Awesome.

Will they no longer be able to vote in a federal election? Even better. Bye Bye, Feinstein, Schiff, Waters! LOLGF

Posted by: Julie Adamen at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (pd+Xc)

79 Welp, that was a mistake. Opened my Roth IRA statement.

Jeebus. *thinks of having a cocktail early*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (ptqGC)

80 64 And then California can open the southern border and be officially known as Northern Mexico.


Too late Amigo

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (5bxa0)

81 I support Calexit.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (oVJmc)

82 first I said five but then thought, I dunno, maybe people will say that's not enough time

maybe five was right
Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (PbpT7)
++++++++++++++
Zero. Immediate action. The West can't take much more, especially if it amplifies because there's a go-time on full retard.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (hYcqw)

83 Is it time?

Yes.

Posted by: MJ at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (gAMkn)

84 Badfinger? Unpossible!

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (DMUuz)

85 I don't think Newsom has crunched the numbers on federal entitlements he would have to fund post-USAexit.

Dude, you ready to cover all expenses for your undocumented Americans?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (bDqIh)

86 Memba when that Civil War talk was just for the nutters?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: blaster at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (ZfRYq)

87 "Look, either formally secede -- with my enthusiastic ..."Bon voyage!"...

More like "Mal voyage!"

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (Z4/Nn)

88 We can work out the details later. I suggest that all border counties be
permitted to vote to leave or stay on a county-by-county basis. We
don't need to keep states intact when we're dividing the country.
---
With additional rounds of voting with each new border, until all counties in a given round vote to go with the CalComs.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (kOpft)

89 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (Zz0t1)

90 75 "And then we go our separate ways -- forever."

No. I want my pound of flesh out of these assholes. The only way they'll ever leave me alone is if they're dead.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (jWe5r)

===========

It's an unhealthy relationship. Really, we just need to say goodbye and leave that toxicity behind us.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (zZbCU)

91 This seems a pretty desperate move. Wonder what's coming, Gavin?

Posted by: artemis at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (AwPyG)

92 March to the sea

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (ONvIw)

93 This insurrection is brought to you by the CCP...

We live in interesting times.

Posted by: Chuck Fyna at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (iQmdl)

94 Arrest him jail him try him convict him give his 200 years in prison feed hima Joe Arpaoa Brunch a Orange and Balogna Sandwhich

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (FLiOE)

95 The media is working overtime to present the image that Trump is somehow screwing up. It is working to a degree - mean, look at that poll a few posts back that had SCOMF at 52%!

The problem for them is reality. Trump closed the border. Trump pushed HCQ. Trump bats down their silly questions for two hours each day, and knows the details like a pro. Trump has a task force dream team of people who are not only good at what they do (yes, even Fauci) but are good in front of cameras.

The is mini mike trying to pump up the narrative that states are in revolt over Trump's handling. My guess is that Noisome would say the feds did a good job and this article is twisted.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (LWu6U)

96 61
Nation-State of Californication to declare war on Nation-State of Texas

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:15 PM (JFO2v)
They won't need to bring their lunch.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (e284m)

97 Welp, that was a mistake. Opened my Roth IRA statement.

Jeebus. *thinks of having a cocktail early*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (ptqGC)

-----

Have a cocktail. But remember.... you dont lose a cent until you sell.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (nw6Hr)

98 New Republican Candidate for Governor of California:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (Zz0t1)

99
Does this mean we can kick Nancy Piglosi and DiFi out?
Along with Adam Schitthead and Swallowswell?


Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:16 PM (e284m)


So there's an upside?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (ptqGC)

100
America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate

Everything about race.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (aKsyK)

101 Hmmm...up until recently Newsom has been saying that the feral gubmint has been helpful. I wonder what changed

-

he now knows the virus is no big so back to grifting as usual

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (j9HX3)

102 So, as a nation state California will continue to descend into a nightmare of homelessness, junkies, and people shitting on the sidewalks.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (+lVUW)

103 These people are so full of bullshit and like to bellow and wail like a lone elk in the forest.

Just like Michigan's governor declaring the following posted by NaughtyPine.

I turned off the radio after she declared "I'm in the business of saving lives." LIAR.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (/+bwe)

These Democrats are so self important. They are all mini Bloombergs, self proclaimed Gods.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (Asyn9)

104 Can we have Calexit, Scotsexit, and Italexit all in the same 12 month period?

That would be fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (zZbCU)

105 What supplies has the federal government failed to provide? That's demonstrably false. They don't even need what they have.

And somebody please do send Gavin a book on federalism, and what he is responsible for as governor.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2


Exactly.
What hes saying is nonsense. just last week he was praising trump and his administration for their responsiveness.

And he should call Jerry brown to discuss why he sold off the emergency supplies the last (sort of ) republican governor stockpiled for this type of situation

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (Ed8Zd)

106 How many military bases stay with "Classic US".

All of them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (oVJmc)

107 Gah. "Go Your Own Way" is not hopelessly associated in my braims with that prescription drug commercial. (Some skin thing, I think.)

And now I've got it stuck in my head.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (dfRN6)

108 Excited to see the Dems candidate for president get started:

https://youtu.be/m68Pw-KZvvo

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (Zz0t1)

109 Gavin Newsom Declares California a "Nation-State,"

He has no idea what those words mean. He just thinks that it make him sound important.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (qc+VF)

110 At yesterday's presser or the day before Trump said NYC is like a country.

Is this fool trying to seize upon that?

Posted by: davidt at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (l3+k2)

111 It's an unhealthy relationship. Really, we just need to say goodbye and leave that toxicity behind us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (zZbCU)

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Yeah.... the likelyhood of an amicable split is equal to null.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (nw6Hr)

112 Hey California!

GFY!!!!

Trump should have a field day with this shit. I can't wait.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (Zz0t1)

113 >> That Colorado River compact, how does it work?


Excellent point!
Colorado would be happy to take back CA's water rights.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (bDqIh)

114 "Where the Streets are Paved With Poop."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (oVJmc)

115 Civil war is inevitable...

/Us gun-dick strokers and wacko birds.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (o2MD2)

116 It's the White House's job to get your people PPE?

Is it their job to wipe their asses too?

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (9V81o)

117 In those crazy days Arizona blew up the bridges across the Colorado River to protect itself from the California "Army". They needn't have bothered. The "Army" was too busy organizing strikes to get their marijuana rations raised to invade anyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (SchxB)

118 okay I changed it to five years

now i'm being told "two years max"

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (PbpT7)

119 111 It's an unhealthy relationship. Really, we just need to say goodbye and leave that toxicity behind us.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (zZbCU)

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Yeah.... the likelyhood of an amicable split is equal to null.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:18 PM (nw6Hr)

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There's no amicability about it, but we just need a court order that we're not allowed to talk to each other (including trade) for a few years to let things cool off.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (zZbCU)

120 I guess they'll start producing their own water and power, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (oVJmc)

121 Califonication suceeds it will:

Cut national welfare in half. 50% of all people on welfare in Cal.

Cut illegal immigration by about 30%.

Cut illegal drug imports by about 35%.

FUCK YES IM IN

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (JFO2v)

122 23 >>>Most of the counties in California would vote to stay in the US. Same with Washington and Oregon.

well that would work. I'm sure that Idaho would vote to be in the Real America, so it's no tricky thing to include border counties in Real America.

Posted by: ace
.........

As long as we don't give them a new state, I'm all for it.

But they must join a bordering state.

Even so-called "conservatives" in Northern California are more liberal than most red states. if given a new state they would reliably vote in Democrat Senators.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (CjFDo)

123 "Really, we just need to say goodbye and leave that toxicity behind us."

That's all fine and dandy if you think they'll be good with that. Hint: They won't.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (jWe5r)

124 "You and your counterparty agree to trade, probably with one coughing up some cash (because few exchanges of property involve precisely equal values of property)."

U-Haul index. Corpus Christi TX and Anaheim CA (populations around 350,000, no other attempt to correlate). Date of one-way rental: 30 SEP 2020:

CA to TX: 20 foot truck, $2,914.00
TX to CA: 26 foot truck, $778.00

Posted by: hogmartin at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (t+qrx)

125 We can send all our "undocumented" people there before it leaves the docks.

"California or Mexico, pick?"

Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (Eicbe)

126 I want to know what business deals mini mike was given by the CCP to run against their nemesis?

You know he had a multi tens of billion dollar deal in china on offer for him to be so desperate to waste money. I would not be surprised if they fronted the whole campaign.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (LWu6U)

127 Oh yeah, this is gonna end well ...


/s

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (cqteU)

128 Cocaine Mitch has established his blood circle

https://mobile.twitter.com/rachel_dz/status/1248308398002749440

Posted by: 29Victor at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (BJKQV)

129 Lets do it!

But we need to annex Peruvia not only for its beautiful womins but so we can keep the flag and patriotic songs the same.


Throw in Greenland and we'll make ALL necessary adjustment needed.

I'm stoked!



Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (u6xw0)

130 I hope they get their own currency.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (oo2tY)

131 123 "Really, we just need to say goodbye and leave that toxicity behind us."

That's all fine and dandy if you think they'll be good with that. Hint: They won't.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (jWe5r)

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Them and what army?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (zZbCU)

132 October Surprise: Trump recognizes California's insurrection, strips them of statehood, and arrests their congressional delegation.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (kOpft)

133 will they still buy their electric and fuel from us mouth breathers ?
Cause the price just went up or we can turn it off.

nation state.


Posted by: RJD at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (2cfUo)

134 Time to close all of the bridges on the Colorado River between Arizona and California. Newsom can then embrace Baja California as the next territory where the Dem locusts can flee to and escape the mess they've made.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (ch6++)

135 Where should Classic America relocate all of the military bases in that are now in CA? This would be a kick in the pants to San Diego alone.

Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (oiNtH)

136 Trump has repeatedly said in his press conferences that Democrats tell him on calls how great the Federal gov has been, etc. then they go out to the reporters and complain how the Trump administration is handling the pandemic. He has pointed that out numerous times, and Newsom is a great example.

I"m sure Guilfoyle has updated him on what Gavin is actually like out of the spotlight.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (Asyn9)

137 We could always just keep beating them until they surrender.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (ZLI7S)

138 Kirt Schlichter. Man and author with a vision.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (axyOa)

139 Defense is one problem I foresee. Left to their own devices the West Coast would be vulnerable to invasion. The rest would be in a position where they would have to defend CA/OR/WA just so the Chinese couldn't have a beachhead in North America.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (xPl2J)

140 How great would it be to have all the counties around Los Angeles vote to stay in the United States, and then tax every fuckhead coming out of that dump to enter our great country. Or watch from the hills as the dumpster fire in Mexico worked it's way in their Utopia.

Better yet, triple the price of water for LA County.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (VpIIl)

141 Furthermore, does Pelosi become Queen?


Of a few coastal counties from which she would lose the most productive citizens? I say let her. I give her Kingdom the longevity of 6 months before progressives and homeless pull a Ceausescu on her.

Posted by: Floridachick at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (6UAnQ)

142 This doesn't work unless he says the magic words.

Mecha Lecha Hinny Hoe!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (e284m)

143 Joey Badfinger Biden likes the music.

Posted by: teh wind at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (fVZkX)

144 124 "You and your counterparty agree to trade, probably with one coughing up some cash (because few exchanges of property involve precisely equal values of property)."

U-Haul index. Corpus Christi TX and Anaheim CA (populations around 350,000, no other attempt to correlate). Date of one-way rental: 30 SEP 2020:

CA to TX: 20 foot truck, $2,914.00
TX to CA: 26 foot truck, $778.00
Posted by: hogmartin at April 09, 2020 04:19 PM (t+qrx)

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I like to remind people occasionally that Ted Cruz won new transplants to TX while he lost natives of TX to Beto in 2018.

https://tinyurl.com/vkq4b7b

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (zZbCU)

145 Wasn't this jerk off kissing Trumps ass a couple days ago?

Posted by: Regular joe at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (6/uwW)

146 Show them the door.

Posted by: f2000 at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (IIUCn)

147 They elect shit they can just eat shit.
Leave. Good riddance.

Posted by: Case at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (oJ76I)

148 Even so-called "conservatives" in Northern California are more liberal than most red states. if given a new state they would reliably vote in Democrat Senators.

Not me or anyone I know of the few Conservatives left in CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (5bxa0)

149 I hope they get their own currency.

Whatever it is, it'll be printed on hemp.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (SchxB)

150 Well.......... bye.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (66UcN)

151
Nonononononononononono......

YOU assholes get all the sand EAST of the mountains.

The beaches, teh ports, the naval bases..... THAT shit stays with the normies.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (nw6Hr)

152 Gavin,

Get it while you can! Colorado River water, only $1.00 per gallon! Today only. Call 1-888-TRUMPWH

Posted by: Gref at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (AMIL/)

153 Mikey Kaus, who usually has interesting political insights, wrote an article saying that the D's should be allowed to win the 2020 presidential election, because a fair number of them are violent and crazy, which the Republicans are reasonable. We need to avoid civil disorder, you see.

Aside from the fact that the violent, crazy Democrats don't dare operate outside big blue cities (elsewhere, they would be hit with riot and conspiracy charges), Kaus' other reason for the R's to throw the election was that Trump's reelection would trigger off a huge California secession movement.

My reaction was, so what? We have a well-established precedent on what happens when a state tries to secede. If we agreed to a voluntary breakup (after taking the red counties in California), what fun it would be to make Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Kamala Harris fly back to Sacramento, to preside over their shrunken domain. (BTW, when we take the red counties out of California, we also take California's water supply, so good luck with that.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (I2/tG)

154 We can work out the details later. I suggest that all border counties be permitted to vote to leave or stay on a county-by-county basis. We don't need to keep states intact when we're dividing the country.

West Virginia was inviting Virginia counties to join it over gun laws.

Oregon counties were petitioning to join Utah due to the Rule O'Portland over east Oregon.

It's already happening.

This is also part of the whole only those who are not Of The Left Body Whatever It Is This Nanosecond are divisive idiocy.

Back before fandom got too toxic even for me, I always took bitter glee when I would push back against whatever stupid leftist shit people hauled into fandom and why are you so divvvviiiisssiiiivvveee. To which I would reply, why is it me, not you. I didn't bring it up. You did. I replied. Why did you assume everyone thought like you did? How am I the one being divisive? I never would receive a coherent answer.

The most hilarious was the time someone got all their panties in a twist about political stuff and demanded that the forum mods step in. That's when I replied, oh, you mean me? The owner of this forum? The one who is paying 100% for all the paid features? The one who is listed in bold as the chief moderator and who has sole discretion over who posts what here? That mod? Sure, how can I help you.

Hilarity and flouncing ensued.

Good times, good times.

Also, I'm thinking I'd move to the Galveston part of the Republic of Texas because I miss living by water.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (mf5HN)

155 So in year 6 Real America begins a new Manifest Destiny!

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (C0xFb)

156 121
Califonication suceeds it will:



Cut national welfare in half. 50% of all people on welfare in Cal.



Cut illegal immigration by about 30%.



Cut illegal drug imports by about 35%.


And cut Democrat electoral votes by about 50, andcuts Ds in Congress by that many.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (oVJmc)

157 Not just the border counties. Take the agriculturally productive counties as well as I think they tend to be more conservative. Leave the reds with the Bay Area and LA and the coastal strip in between, then turn off the water and the electricity and don't send any more gasoline. Wait a couple of weeks, then send in the tanks for mop-up duty and reduce the formerly seceded areas to territorial status.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (QB8to)

158 Build the wall in Nevada!

Keep out the hippie fascists.

Posted by: Czech Chick at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (haWye)

159 Arizona gets to take San Diego and its port, though. All remaining conservatives in the rump state of California can go reside there.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with MOAR TP) at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (N3El/)

160 Eight years? I can drive to the State of Jefferson in two days. Bring it on.

Posted by: FoodWaterAmmo at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (PVu+v)

161 130 I hope they get their own currency.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (oo2tY)

Social Credits. They like dollars but you can only buy pseudo-morality.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (JFO2v)

162 Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya, Cali.

I wish I could say it's been fun, but.....

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (Zz0t1)

163 We can start small by granting Hawaii independence.

Posted by: itsatax at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (G0PUA)

164 8 years is too long. 4 tops. I'd prefer 2.
Posted by: SkylerKat at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (SXIn9)

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One financial year to get their taxes in order.

Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (xarPm)

165 I do hope that the Cali kingdom televises the unwanted peasants storming the Hollywood mansions.

Posted by: Floridachick at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (6UAnQ)

166 Dear California

I do my thing and you do your thing.
I am not in this world to live up to your expectations,
And you are not in this world to live up to mine.
You are you, and I am I,
and if by chance we find each other, it's beautiful.
If not, it can't be helped.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (LWu6U)

167 I think we would have to keep a wide strip of land in each state to the ocean though.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (r+sAi)

168 149 I hope they get their own currency.

Whatever it is, it'll be printed on hemp.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (SchxB)

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It'll be digital so that California can more easily manipulate it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (zZbCU)

169 So the same people who can't stop bums from shitting in the street want to create a nation?

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (T09ml)

170 If CA leaves the Union, I believe The Yankees have first dibs on Mike Trout. Or so I heard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:22 PM (85Gof)

171 FEMA has rules about what they can provide to a state, so Maybe Newsome Just wants to buy non approved items. Blow dryers or golf clubs or iPads for all or something. (Although LAUSD already wasted millions on that debacle) we all know the MFM will spin whatever to try to make trump look bad.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (Ed8Zd)

172 Newsom caught bell for praising Trump last week. Now, he has to overcorrect. Anyone remember the name of South Carolina's governor in 1861? Me neither.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (ja/kn)

173 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ztewaEqsg
"Late Great Golden State"

Posted by: goodluckduck at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (V8zw+)

174 I Col. Kirk books Mexico build a wall to keep the hungry and killer Californicators out of Mexico.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (JFO2v)

175 I hope they get their own currency.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (oo2tY)

It will be called the bolivar.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (xPl2J)

176 lets not be hasty, what will become of Cali's pron industry??

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (u6xw0)

177 170 If CA leaves the Union, I believe The Yankees have first dibs on Mike Trout. Or so I heard


no way! the phillies do!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (j9HX3)

178 We don't need a wall. We have the Mississippi. We go right, they go left.

Posted by: Steel Gimlet at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (RHPJ0)

179 What this is, of course, is Newsom positioning himself for a 2024 run. He is the most politically ambitious man in America.
Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (N9G0H)

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He gives off such a creepy vibe, every time he smiles I expect to see fangs.

Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (xarPm)

180 maybe five was right
Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM


Never. It's right out.

Posted by: Custodian of The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (DMUuz)

181 Where should Classic America relocate all of the military bases in that are now in CA?

Keep 'em. They can be California's Guantanamo.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (I2/tG)

182 >>The beaches, teh ports, the naval bases..... THAT shit stays with the normies.

Ah yes, a battle over a naval base.

History repeats.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (ZLI7S)

183 Bloomberg is old enogh to have materbated during the Civil War.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (JFO2v)

184 UN peacekeepers in cali by October.

Posted by: Simplemind at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (yshFD)

185 He's obviously thinking he can apply for favored trading partner status and foreign aid.

And let's see, population wise then,
TEXAS would be the gorilla in the electoral college room

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (e284m)

186 8 years is way too long. Plus youd have millions of kids born in that 8 years who would be dual citizens. Fuck that. On day 1 you choose which citizenship you want. Then you have 120 days to move. On day 121, you are considered an illegal alien and subject to imprisonment.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (olImo)

187 Incredible! We just rid ourselves of Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, and millions of illegal aliens at a single stroke! Thank you, Gavin Newsom!!

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (RmBQf)

188
Mathew McConaughey > Gavin Newsome

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (nw6Hr)

189 Nah Cali is too valuable.Seize it and return it to territorial status while we straighten it out.

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (KNsKs)

190 "Them and what army?"

You seem to be under the impression the left is willing to let us live our own lives. Amicably, as you say.

As I said before, they only way they'll leave me alone is if they're dead. Look around. There's no shortage of examples.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (jWe5r)

191 Nuke CA from space...twice.

Posted by: PacosMojo at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (ivZ+f)

192 Or as Peter Tosh put it,

Don't underestimate, my ability
Don't definate my character
Don't belittle, my authority
It's time you recognized my quality

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (LWu6U)

193 No! No! No!

We had this war once already and the Union is the Union. If they would like to leave this nation once we take it back and govern it like some kind of territory, fine. They can leave - as individuals.

They ARE NOT ALLOWED to take that land with them.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (rPFP1)

194 I'm fairly certain if Texas secedes, it gets its original borders back.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (C0xFb)

195 So where will Gavin get his Men's Hair products imported from?

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

196 What's left of California would be like the Gaza Strip, only with more poverty and less RPG's.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (VpIIl)

197 California purchasing power???

Bwahahaha!!!!

Deep breath.

Bwahahaha!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (axyOa)

198 Posted by: Steel Gimlet at April 09, 2020 04:23
You misspelled The Rocky Mountains.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (r+sAi)

199 Who run bartertown?

Posted by: the banned at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (8knaB)

200 Walt saw this all coming which is why he built in Orlando

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (85Gof)

201 California would go to war? How?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (oVJmc)

202 It's hard to believe The Great Ronald Reagan was once the Governor of Californicated..

It's hard to believe the citizens of Californicated voted for The Great Ronald Reagan to be POTUS. Twice.

WTF happened to this state? The last decent governor was Pete Wilson. After him the state started its slide into the abyss.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (iiT9X)

203 Oregon counties were petitioning to join Utah due to the Rule O'Portland over east Oregon.

Idaho, actually.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (I2/tG)

204 People's Republic of California is asshoe!

Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (Eicbe)

205 when you call yourself a nation state
while you masturbate
that's a newsome

Posted by: RJD at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (2cfUo)

206 Gavin obviously doesn't understand where he gets his electricity and water from.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (e284m)

207 95 The media is working overtime to present the image that Trump is somehow screwing up. It is working to a degree - mean, look at that poll a few posts back that had SCOMF at 52%!

The problem for them is reality. Trump closed the border. Trump pushed HCQ. Trump bats down their silly questions for two hours each day, and knows the details like a pro. Trump has a task force dream team of people who are not only good at what they do (yes, even Fauci) but are good in front of cameras.

The is mini mike trying to pump up the narrative that states are in revolt over Trump's handling. My guess is that Noisome would say the feds did a good job and this article is twisted.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM (LWu6U)

________________________________

I think the main point of context is a proven track record. Trump really had the economy rolling before this China Pox nonsense. So, the public knows what he's capable of. Biden, on the other hand, holds no such track record. People don't like change or risk.

Timing will be key. If he can get a semblance of recovery between now and November, he's a shoe in.

That being said...(affix your tin foil hat)...I think we are going to see a second little surprise from our pals in China. There's another pandemic being brewed. Because this one isn't timed quite right...and the current administration will do everything they can going forward to remove our reliance on anything China. That wasn't their goal.

Posted by: Orson at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (RAz50)

208

The Duchy of Grand Fenwick

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (aKsyK)

209 $100 bucks says Gavin is an ass pirate, or at least a bi pirate.

But I suppose that's more of a credential in Cali.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (VpIIl)

210 ChiCom Propaganda Hacks says what?

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (MVR7y)

211 Just think. If Jan Brewer had the temerity to say this while governor during Barky's presidency, she could be called racist!

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (JoUsr)

212 Let me know and I'll sell Casa REDACTED to some panicked

NYC putz for a premium

My TX papers are still in good order, right ?

RIGHT ??

Posted by: REDACTED at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (rpxSz)

213 We don't need a wall. We have the Mississippi. We go right, they go left.

Posted by: Steel Gimlet at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (RHPJ0)

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No.

We keep it ALL. THEY need to find somewhere fucking else to live.

The Canucks have LOTS of empty space. They can go there.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (nw6Hr)

214 lets not be hasty, what will become of Cali's pron industry??

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (u6xw0)


It will become "Nevada's porn industry."

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (Zz0t1)

215 I don't care what california does.

I want to go to dinner with my friends. I want to have a beer in a pub. I want to travel across the nation and meet new friends.

I want my life back

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (d7Ww2)

216 Hey, Harry and Meghan can be royals again and rule the new nation!

Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (oiNtH)

217 like to remind people occasionally that Ted Cruz won new transplants to TX while he lost natives of TX to Beto in 2018.

https://tinyurl.com/vkq4b7b
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (zZbCU)


I didnt know that. Apparently a whole bunch of us came her for a reason and havent forgotten it. God bless Texas.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

218 Gavin can be The Wizard of Odd.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (VpIIl)

219 Not just border counties. The WV precedent was border counties PLUS any counties adjacent to those which voted to secede. So it could reach well into the state, remembering that inland left coast counties are much sounder than the coasts.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (ZbwAu)

220 11 "and America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate,"

And the prize for delusional quote of the day goes to.......

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:10 PM (e284m)

It's always the delusion of the privileged white leftists that if we just got rid of "white privilege" that all the races, genders, religions, and sexual orientations would live in one big rainbow utopia.

They don't like to mention much the ethnic cleansing of LA neighborhoods of blacks by Hispanics, the strong distrust and dislike between blacks and Asians, and that the only people of color proclaiming their love of all things gay are Democrat politicians of color.


Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (qAR6u)

221


It's hard to believe the citizens of Californicated voted for The Great Ronald Reagan to be POTUS. Twice.



WTF happened to this state? The last decent governor was Pete Wilson. After him the state started its slide into the abyss.


Reagan's Amnesty, maybe?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (oVJmc)

222 This is madness. It's like nobody remembers the teachings of a 10th grade civic class anymore.

Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (95j/9)

223 They can leave - as individuals.

They ARE NOT ALLOWED to take that land with them.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (rPFP1)

They could move to Brazil like the holdout Confederates did. They want CA to be like Brazil anyway so they'd for right in.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (QB8to)

224 Most of the counties in California would vote to stay in the US. Same with Washington and Oregon.


Indeed, even some coastal counties both north and south of SF. Which would leave 2 festering tumors on the coast. Wall off the bay area and LA. If they want to drive the 101 or 5, they can file for the appropriate paperwork and plan on heavy tolls. If they enter US airspace without a permit, shoot 'em down. And Jerry's train won't be going anywhere near either one of the blue lumps.

Posted by: clutch cargo at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (8B6Ng)

225 I"m sure Guilfoyle has updated him on what Gavin is actually like out of the spotlight.

Sniff!

Posted by: Cocaine! at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (I2/tG)

226 California this week declared its independence from the federal government's feeble efforts to fight Covid-19

Feeble.

More or less feeble than Bloomberg's feeble Presidential "campaign?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (GArKj)

227

War with California, huh?

Ok.

Dividing up all those volleyball babes to the victors is going to give new meaning to "the spoils of war".

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (sy5kK)

228 Hey, Harry and Meghan can be royals again and rule the new nation!
Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (oiNtH)

Who was the German prince who tried to become King of Mexico? How'd that work out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (85Gof)

229 Yeah Ace! The big national divorce I've been thinking is inevitable. You've worked out more details than I have though.

The other possibility is all Progs, Socialists and Commies to Canada because they would just LOVE
Trudeau - and all normal Canadians to the US.




Posted by: Liz at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (Wv/W7)

230 California would go to war? How?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (oVJmc)

------

Yo!!

Back da fuq UP man.

Posted by: Bloods and teh Crips at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (nw6Hr)

231
It will be called the bolivar peso.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (xPl2J)


Corrected.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (Zz0t1)

232 184 UN peacekeepers in cali by October.
Posted by: Simplemind at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (yshFD)

Raping the kids that Americans won't.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (NWiLs)

233 I love it when California throws these overly dramatic teenage girl hissy fits.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (e284m)

234 56 Beating California in a civil war would take all of fifteen minutes. Just close the aqueduct on the Colorado River and watch how that turns out. Thirsty hippies.
Posted by: Orson at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (RAz50)

In addition, cut all the long distance power transmission lines at the state border. Also, take out the transmission lines to the 10 biggest instate power generators. The power grid collapses immediately, the State collapses in about a week.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (trdmm)

235 Anyone who wishes to immigrate from Commiefornia must bring a severed Dimmycrat head.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler, whittling away like mad at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (d6mdH)

236 >>>219 Not just border counties. The WV precedent was border counties PLUS any counties adjacent to those which voted to secede. So it could reach well into the state, remembering that inland left coast counties are much sounder than the coasts.

right. well, there are details that need to be specified. I also think that there has to be some convoluted thing about blue cities who want to join the blue fake news america, but are surrounded by red areas. I mean, whatever. Give them a single strip of highway to make that land "contiguous" and then say goodbye.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (PbpT7)

237

Take your shithole country and get the fuck out of mine.


Uh late, but this is their people right?





Because none of these fuckers are getting the Redwood Forest, golden beaches, Sierras, Big Bear, Yosemite, Santa Barbara and the Reagan without being the last man standing in a pile of empty brass.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (MQ0v4)

238 Gavin Newsom is the Eric Swallowswell of Jussie Smolletts.

(Is that how this works?)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (ptqGC)

239
What are the three reddest states in America? Whichever they are get to divide California's electoral votes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (pS94+)

240 If all goes according to plan, Newsom said, California might even "export some of those supplies to states in need."

Now what is the small but noticeable flaw in this "plan?" Apart from the fact that a liberal thinks it's a good idea?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (GArKj)

241 Gavin was married to Kimberly Guilfoille who is now Don Jrs girlfriend. The world is funny some times.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (olImo)

242 Can Constitution 2.0 make provisions for televised executions of politicians that agitate for communism? Either outright or under the guise of 'Democratic Socialism'?

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (uS2EJ)

243 WTF happened to this state? The last decent governor was Pete Wilson. After him the state started its slide into the abyss.
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson

I grew up in CA and it was paradise. Leftist like ticks, migrate and attach themselves to anything beautiful and make it sick.

Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (oiNtH)

244 179 What this is, of course, is Newsom positioning himself for a 2024 run. He is the most politically ambitious man in America.
Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM (N9G0H)

--------------

He gives off such a creepy vibe, every time he smiles I expect to see fangs.
Posted by: Decaf


In person, he really really resembles Satan. Seriously. I've been at no fewer than 25 events with him and have met him many many times, and he has such a Satan vibe it creeps me out every time. ("Satan" in the sense "Sorta-handosme-but evil-looking actor portraying Satan on screen," like the lead character in the "Lucifer" TV show.) One really imagines that "Gavin Newsom" is the skin-suit Satan wears when he visits Earth.

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (N9G0H)

245 Who was the German prince who tried to become King of Mexico? How'd that work out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (85Gof)
Maximilian?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (e284m)

246
I want to go to dinner with my friends. I want to have a beer in a pub. I want to travel across the nation and meet new friends.

I want my life back
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (d7Ww2)


This....

The population of China, THIS.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)

247 I still think there should be a fight, and the losers just get kicked off their land. A reverse boat people situation.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (svbBD)

248 238 Gavin Newsom is the Eric Swallowswell of Jussie Smolletts.

(Is that how this works?)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (ptqGC)


Gavin Newsome is the Chinese Coronavirus curve. Full of a lot of numbers pulled out of a rectal cavity.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (pS94+)

249 I love it when California throws these overly dramatic teenage girl hissy fits.


Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (e284m)


Let them keep Hollywood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (ptqGC)

250 This is madness. It's like nobody remembers the teachings of a 10th grade civic class anymore.
Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (95j/9)

-----

They dont teach civics anymore.

duh

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (nw6Hr)

251 Update from State Rep Matt Maddock:

[Michigan Governor Half-Whitmer] just extended the stay at home order until April 30th. She refused to adopt the updated CISA guidelines, and made it more restrictive to businesses and travel.

"Under the new order, all public and private gatherings among persons outside a single household remain temporarily prohibited. Though Michiganders may leave the house to get groceries or needed supplies, the new order encourages people to limit the number of household members running errands to the maximum extent possible. ...The order clarifies, however, that travel for vacations or for any other purpose is prohibited.

A new section of the order imposes restrictions on stores in an effort to reduce crowds. ... Large stores must also close areas of the store that are dedicated to carpeting, flooring, furniture, garden centers, plant nurseries, or paint."

And only 4 people per 1,000 square feet in grocery stores with limited hours.

And she said Residents should not expect that everything is going back to normal on April 30th and almost certainly won't be the last measure taken in Michigan.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (Do5/p)

252 People don't understand that New York is in the same situation. If there was a vote on secession, most of the landmass in New York would vote to stay in the U.S.

It's the population in New York City, a few of the surrounding counties and s small area around Albany that kills the entire state.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (VpIIl)

253 Sniff!

Gavin went into "alcohol" rehab once, when he was mayor of San Francisco.

It was "virtual" rehab - he didn't actually go into a clinic. He just waited a few weeks, and then announced that everything was just peachy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (I2/tG)

254 217 like to remind people occasionally that Ted Cruz won new transplants to TX while he lost natives of TX to Beto in 2018.

https://tinyurl.com/vkq4b7b
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (zZbCU)


I didnt know that. Apparently a whole bunch of us came her for a reason and havent forgotten it. God bless Texas.
Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

I hate so called Texans that voted for Beto(ff) with the heat of a 1000 suns. Hope their transmissions break on Aug 2nd and they bake like fucking taters in their cars.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (JFO2v)

255 And in year 6, we do a Sherman's March, destroying all crops and killing all livestock in CA, plus the usual rape, pillage and burning that all armies do a bit of.

If it was good enough for the South...

Not that we hold any grudges or anything...

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (Z4rgH)

256 Who was the German prince who tried to become King of Mexico? How'd that work out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (85Gof)
Maximilian?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (e284m)

yeah that's the guy LOL...Thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (85Gof)

257 UN peacekeepers in cali by October.
Posted by: Simplemind at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (yshFD)

Raping the kids that Americans won't.
=====
The chicoms will send a generous allotment of troops.

Not rapey at all.

Posted by: Simplemind at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (yshFD)

258 California would go to war? How?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (oVJmc)
.......

Slap and tickle fight.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (v0R5T)

259 Then I suggest we mutually agree that any citizen of one America has the right to move to the other America as a citizen within five years of division. After five years, you're a foreign immigrant like any other, and the countries can choose to accept or reject your request for citizenship as they like.



==


I need details. Like, who is going to buy me a new house in Dellas Texas to accommodate my modest lifestyle.

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (zr5Kq)

260 Newsome is Pelosi's nephew, correct?

He is a product of Satan and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (Zz0t1)

261 Without California, Dems would lose control of the country at the federal level. They'd lose 55 electoral votes, two senators, a bushel of extremist representatives, and an open door at the border allowing in the current flood of future voters and plague-spreaders.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (HmZuC)

262 America just became a lot straighter.

Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (Eicbe)

263 Will street defecation be allowed in all of the great nation of California - or just limited to the San Francisco district?

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (C0xFb)

264 I don't want California to secede. We'll have Chinese bases there in a year.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (Dc2NZ)

265 akaik no states have ever been enlarged by taking land from another state. New states were created from existing states, many times. But never has state A given land to an existing State B.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (olImo)

266 As near as I can tell CA is gonna have to give us about $7 Trillion to pay off their portion of the national debt before they can even think about leaving.

We could do alot with $7 Trillion.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (r+sAi)

267 I think the true division is urban versus rural, and it's in nearly every state- i know an insufferable prick of a leftist who teaches at Auburn. He was born in rural Alabama and has the fanaticism of a convert (speaks often of seething undercurrents and unspoken hatreds, ie he gets to pick what people really think).

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (87EdW)

268 214 lets not be hasty, what will become of Cali's pron industry??

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2020 04:23 PM (u6xw0)

It will become "Nevada's porn industry."

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (Zz0t1)

It pretty well has at this point. Aside from Vegas, Miami has taken a big chunk, and so has Phoenix

For the same reasons as other businesses; Taxes and regulations

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (qAR6u)

269 247 I still think there should be a fight, and the losers just get kicked off their land. A reverse boat people situation.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (svbBD)


Political ethnic cleansing. Charged words but then again, we asked, begged and pleaded for them to think it over that they may be wrong and try to reconcile. But they said "get fucked," and so here we are...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (pS94+)

270 Let them keep Hollywood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (ptqGC)

----

Nope.

I want to PERSONALLY liberate Barbara Steisands gated village she calls a home and march her fat ass to the curb.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (nw6Hr)

271 As a Nation State, California would have to renegotiate any federal funding received with the State Dept.

Mr Pompeo cannot see you right now would you like to make an appointment?

Posted by: BluesFish at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (C2vvE)

272 California secedes Maybe I can buy a fucking working gas can again.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (o2MD2)

273 Who was the German prince who tried to become King of Mexico? How'd that work out?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (85Gof)


Austrian.

Maximilian I.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (GArKj)

274 They can leave - as individuals.



They ARE NOT ALLOWED to take that land with them.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (MQ0v4)

275 No currency, no diplomatic recognition. Gavin Newsome needs education in remedial international affairs and Constitutional law treatment for his lead deficency, 230 grains at a time.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler, whittling away like mad at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (d6mdH)

276 California would go to war? How?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:25 PM (oVJmc)
---
Ever see Duck Soup.

Kinda like that.

Posted by: Axeman at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (Eicbe)

277 Mikey Kaus, who usually has interesting political insights, wrote an article saying that the D's should be allowed to win the 2020 presidential election, because a fair number of them are violent and crazy, which the Republicans are reasonable. We need to avoid civil disorder, you see.

Aside from the fact that the violent, crazy Democrats don't dare operate outside big blue cities (elsewhere, they would be hit with riot and conspiracy charges), Kaus' other reason for the R's to throw the election was that Trump's reelection would trigger off a huge California secession movement.
...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM (I2/tG)
++++++++++++++
So give the child throwing the temper-tantrum what it wants and bow to its insane ideas because its less noisy? No.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (hYcqw)

278 PDT could call his bluff.

Posted by: m at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (Y3R0d)

279
I hate so called Texans that voted for Beto(ff) with the heat of a 1000 suns. Hope their transmissions break on Aug 2nd and they bake like fucking taters in their cars.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (JFO2v)


They voted for commie Beta, yet OVERWHELMINGLY voted for Abbott over the dyke Mexican broad.

STILL boggles my mind.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (Zz0t1)

280 Who was the German prince who tried to become King of Mexico? How'd that work out?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (85Gof)


Maximilian of Austria. It did not end well for him.

Posted by: DR.WTF at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (aS1PU)

281 >>>Because none of these fuckers are getting the Redwood Forest, golden beaches, Sierras, Big Bear, Yosemite, Santa Barbara and the Reagan without being the last man standing in a pile of empty brass.


please, a quick divorce is a good divorce

you're quibbling over who gets to keep the cars and the lodge in Aspen

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (PbpT7)

282 If all goes according to plan, Newsom said, California might even "export some of those supplies to states in need."

So long as they kiss my ring.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (I2/tG)

283 Or as Peter Tosh put it,

Don't underestimate, my ability
Don't definate my character
Don't belittle, my authority
It's time you recognized my quality

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (LWu6U)


He was so friggen stoned he had to have 2 flygirls on either side just to keep him upright ...

back in the day on SNL ...

Posted by: Adriane the Cynical Critic ... at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (LPnfS)

284 209 $100 bucks says Gavin is an ass pirate, or at least a bi pirate.

But I suppose that's more of a credential in Cali.
Posted by: Marcus T


No, I don't think so. He goes for arm-candy chicks. Don't get a gay vibe off him at all.

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (N9G0H)

285 It's the population in New York City, a few of the
surrounding counties and s small area around Albany that kills the
entire state.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (VpIIl)
I can tell you how that will work out.

Posted by: Snake Pliskin at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (e284m)

286 256 Who was the German prince who tried to become King of Mexico? How'd that work out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (85Gof)
Maximilian?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (e284m)

yeah that's the guy LOL...Thanks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (85Gof)


"He wore a raspberry sombrero..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (pS94+)

287 I need details.

-----------

The only detail needed to know is most nukes will be in Free America.

Advantage us.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (C0xFb)

288
Newsome is Pelosi's nephew, correct?



He is a product of Satan and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (Zz0t1)


I wonder if he ever misbehaved at Nancy's dinner table and had his plate grabbed out from under his nose and smashed to pieces in the kitchen, as Nancy's daughter has said she used to do.

Typical Italian granny and all. /s

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (ptqGC)

289
Hey. Cuba. They can go to Cuba. Warm sandy beaches, tons of classic fifties cars, free health care.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (nw6Hr)

290 Good Riddence.

My stipulation would be is to split Califronia roughly along the mountain ranges we, America, keeping all the power generating dams and reservoirs. Fuck them, we paid for them. I can't see why they would complain since the coastal regions seems to think the inland region is filled with human vermin.

Plus it gives them a chance to prove that windmills and solar power can keep all the computers on in Silcon Valley. And if they can't, fuck them again, they can get by on their lunatic wet dreams.

Posted by: Pro Inalienable Rights at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (Fmrwt)

291 Also, I'm thinking I'd move to the Galveston part of the Republic of Texas because I miss living by water.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:21 PM


Fun fact: Don Ho recorded Galveston, and gave Glen Campbell a single, saying maybe he could do something with it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (DMUuz)

292 First: Station U.S. Military along Our southern border from the Pacific to AZ.

Second: Cut off all federal funding to CA

Third: Turn the damns back on and again guard them with the U.S. Military.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (W54U5)

293 But never has state A given land to an existing State B. <<<<<<<
Its always bothered me that the upper peninsula of Mich wasn't given to Wisc. It just looks inefficient.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (r+sAi)

294 Was there ever a national breakup that was not accompanied by civil war ?

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (zr5Kq)

295 so, what do you do with all the military bases in Cali?

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (d7Ww2)

296 >>>255 And in year 6, we do a Sherman's March, destroying all crops and killing all livestock in CA, plus the usual rape, pillage and burning that all armies do a bit of.


i'm in favor of letting them build their Socialist Utopia.

for the lulzzz

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (PbpT7)

297 Never listened to anything by "Badfinger" but the music is from a film "The Magic Christian". Is that something I want to know about? Probably not.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (WI7YS)

298 279
I hate so called Texans that voted for Beto(ff) with the heat of a 1000 suns. Hope their transmissions break on Aug 2nd and they bake like fucking taters in their cars.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (JFO2v)

They voted for commie Beta, yet OVERWHELMINGLY voted for Abbott over the dyke Mexican broad.

STILL boggles my mind.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (Zz0t1)

==========

That Cruz/Bush rivalry is stupid but real.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (zZbCU)

299 Maximilian's story gets better, he got permission from Napoleon III to run Mexico


Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (e284m)

300 I hate so called Texans that voted for Beto(ff) with the heat of a 1000 suns. Hope their transmissions break on Aug 2nd and they bake like fucking taters in their cars.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (JFO2v)

a whole lot of them were daft middle aged women who thought Beto looked like that dreamy cool guy in college who they wished they had married, instead of who they actually did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (trdmm)

301 please, a quick divorce is a good divorce

-------------

Also means we can get on with the inevitable war.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (C0xFb)

302
It will become "Nevada's porn industry."
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:26 PM (Zz0t1)


Hmm..ok. As long as we have a plan.






Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (u6xw0)

303 264 I don't want California to secede. We'll have Chinese bases there in a year.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (Dc2NZ)


Agree. I want California decertified as a state, declared a territory, occupied by the Army and the government dissolved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (pS94+)

304 In his absence, I will point out that YD has been plugging his "Ejexit" plan to revert CA to territorial status under a military governor...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (hYcqw)

305 But never has state A given land to an existing State B.
=
Research the ohio Michigan border.

Posted by: Simplemind at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (yshFD)

306 War with California?
Since I'm behind enemy lines here, can I be a spy for you guys?

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (v0R5T)

307 Does this mean the rest of the country can ignore the rulings and orders of San Francisco 9th Circuit judges?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (qAR6u)

308 "He wore a raspberry sombrero..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

*snort*

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:34 PM (d7Ww2)

309 "The implications for the brewing civil war between Trumpism and
America's budding 21st-century majority, embodied by California's
multiracial liberal electorate, are less clear."

They misspelled budding third-world shithole.

Posted by: Ripley at April 09, 2020 04:34 PM (MxEKc)

310 103

I turned off the radio after she declared "I'm in the business of saving lives." LIAR.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 09, 2020 04:11 PM

These Democrats are so self important. They are all mini Bloombergs, self proclaimed Gods.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 09, 2020 04:17 PM

Um, no. Doctors, nurses, etc are in the business of saving lives.

Half-Whitmer is in the business of RUINING lives with this 'stay-at-home' order BS.

If she is re-elected by Michiganders in 2022, I am moving to a red state.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2020 04:34 PM (Do5/p)

311 California independence means ONLY the blue cities.

Everything else stays in America and the government is controlled. i.e. no Democrats allowed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:34 PM (pS94+)

312 People don't understand that New York is in the same situation. If there was a vote on secession, most of the landmass in New York would vote to stay in the U.S.

Let's face it, it's true of a number of states: New York, California, Washington, Illinois, to name a few.

Take out the liberal-infested cities (please!) and they are all patriotic American states.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (GArKj)

313 Was there ever a national breakup that was not accompanied by civil war ?

Singapore/Malaysia
Czech Republic/Slovakia

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (I2/tG)

314 Disagree, Ace. 8 years is long enough to fuck up way too much. Just declare them as in rebellion, quarantine the ports and military bases and vital industrial plants, and establish martial law everywhere else. Cancel all state activities and place them under direct territorial control and impose a 50% wealth tax on all residents worth over $50 million to pay for the necessary expenses of occupation and reintegration. Forbid any and all travel from CA to the Union without a visa.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:12 PM (hYcqw)



For the West coast states, we have a pretty good idea where the neighborhoods are that are most infested with Communist sympathizers.

We aren't moving. They will be given the chance. Once.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (sy5kK)

315 300 I hate so called Texans that voted for Beto(ff) with the heat of a 1000 suns. Hope their transmissions break on Aug 2nd and they bake like fucking taters in their cars.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (JFO2v)

a whole lot of them were daft middle aged women who thought Beto looked like that dreamy cool guy in college who they wished they had married, instead of who they actually did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (trdmm)

Which I don't get at all. Maybe it's because I'm I guy, but Robert O'Rourke seemed gawky, gangly and slightly inbred, not anything one would consider "dreamy."

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

316 So Newsom has let his socialist mouth overload his puny socialist brain.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (axyOa)

317
No more Nancy Pelosi is worth it.

Posted by: Case at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (oJ76I)

318 I went to a few stores today in New York and New Jersey for resupply. There were actually lines at some supermarkets to get in. I was one of maybe 1/3 who were not wearing masks. I struck up a conversation with a few other guys who were also veterans. No masks either, btw. We talked about how this doesn't even feel like America now, and we want our lives back. I think people in general are getting very itchy and this can't go on much longer. Unless they want riots, they better start putting the plan out there and letting people know.

Oh, and three stores. Still no toilet paper. F the incompetent Koch brothers who own Georgia Pacific. The paper industry can't keep up with this demand? Really? They suck.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (VpIIl)

319 The only detail needed to know is most nukes will be in Free America.

Advantage us.
Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (C0xFb)
++++++++++++
All.

If they leave, they don't get *any* military assets. Or ports. Those remain occupied territory. Convert I-80 and I-15/I-40 into federal territory like the Danzig Corridor.

They can take them back if they ever develop an army and want to get to nuked.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (hYcqw)

320 Was there ever a national breakup that was not accompanied by civil war ?

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (zr5Kq)

Czech Republic and Slovakia, the "Velvet Divorce."

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (xPl2J)

321 >>>295 so, what do you do with all the military bases in Cali?


they get to have a military too... I mean, in theory. they won't pay for it. But they'll take the bases and turn them into Snail Darter Refuges or whatever.

bases aren't super important. we have a lot more bases in the heartland. We'll lose a lot of manpower in the armed forces so we won't need as many bases.

The more difficult division involves major military platforms, jets, aircraft carriers, navy ships, tanks, etc.

ICBMs...

I'm going to guess this is all resolvable. THe left barely even wants this shit.

Whatever shit they start with, they'll sell it to us within 10 years at a discount.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (PbpT7)

322 Do you think any of their Public Union Employees will figure out that without the Federal subsidies their Overly Inflated Pensions are dependant on reside in unfunded Pension Accounts that a newly formed Independent Nation like Californicate will never be able to fund? Good luck when those unions turn on you Newsom! Ask Jimmy Hoffa how well THAT works out...

Posted by: MrObvious at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (5prN7)

323 October Surprise: Trump recognizes California's insurrection, strips them of statehood, and arrests their congressional delegation.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2020 04:20 PM (kOpft)

As enjoyable as this would be, and as much as I despise the Hollywood elite, it's much more likely Trump does this in New York.

1) It's a critical financial center.

2) Governor Cumbarge has enraged upstaters terribly with his ventilator theft plan. They'll cheer on the siege of Manhattan.

3) Cali is doing a shit lot better with China flu than New York is.

Trump will need to deal with them, but one thing at a time.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (AjgVK)

324 they can get their Social Security from Al Gore's lockbox. I hope he didn't spend it!

Posted by: x at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (nFwvY)

325 embodied by California's multiracial liberal electorate

And therein lies the problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (GArKj)

326
a whole lot of them were daft middle aged women
who thought Beto looked like that dreamy cool guy in college who they
wished they had married, instead of who they actually did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (trdmm)
I live in the middle of a bunch of them, daft middle aged women, who came from some liberal sinkhole like California or New York.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (e284m)

327 Agree. I want California decertified as a state, declared a territory, occupied by the Army and the government dissolved.

Now you're talkin.

Plus we buy Greenland and ship all the unhappy fuckers there.

They can build another shit on the streets Utopia there.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (MQ0v4)

328 295 so, what do you do with all the military bases in Cali?
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (d7Ww2)

That's where we'll keep our occupying colonial forces.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (NWiLs)

329
Which I don't get at all. Maybe it's because I'm I guy, but Robert O'Rourke seemed gawky, gangly and slightly inbred, not anything one would consider "dreamy."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (NWiLs)


This.

He was the lazy, smelly pot smoking fucktard in the back of the class that no one knows how he graduated high school.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (Zz0t1)

330 JJ Sefton has it right. Secession from the Union is illegal. Advocates for it are traitors, and consistent with precedent should be dealt with as such.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (ja/kn)

331 Would it be wrong to fight on the side of California independence and then go back to NormieLand?

Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (6MoD2)

332 303 264 I don't want California to secede. We'll have Chinese bases there in a year.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 09, 2020 04:30 PM (Dc2NZ)


Agree. I want California decertified as a state, declared a territory, occupied by the Army and the government dissolved.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (pS94+)

============

California's accounted itself away from financial collapse (by placing the financial burden on its lower entities and ignoring all the problems with CALPERS), but I shall once again advance my idea for a constitutional amendment to deal with states that declare bankruptcy.

The state immediately loses its status as a state, devolving to a territory. The president is to appoint a military governor.

All elected officials in the state at every level are barred from serving in government across the United States at any level forever.

The state will regain its state status when it passes a new constitution that includes a balanced budget amendment and it has paid back at least 50% of its last state budget shortfall in gold.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (zZbCU)

333 The more difficult division involves major military platforms, jets, aircraft carriers, navy ships, tanks, etc.

That's easy.

America gets them. California doesn't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (GArKj)

334 For information on the 51st State of Jefferson, go to soj51 dot org.

Posted by: FoodWaterAmmo at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (p44Gk)

335 Gavin's wife calls herself "First Partner". Seriously.
That makes him gay, right?

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

336
Oh, and three stores. Still no toilet paper. F the incompetent Koch brothers who own Georgia Pacific. The paper industry can't keep up with this demand? Really? They suck.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (VpIIl)

It's down to logistics. In Toronto the shelves are overflowing with TP.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (AjgVK)

337


No more Nancy Pelosi is worth it.

Posted by: Case at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (oJ76I)


SOON.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (oVJmc)

338 Escape from LA and Escape from New York? it's a double feature

Posted by: x at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (nFwvY)

339 321
Whatever shit they start with, they'll sell it to us within 10 years at a discount.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (PbpT7)


California = Gaza. Whatever is left behind will be smashed into bits within days. But we should evacuate all military hardware in advance.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (pS94+)

340 I'm with JJ on this one. Quickie divorce isn't an option, this isn't a childless short marriage with no kids. This is War of the Roses, and that whore wife of ours will be running a train on China, Cuba, and Iran, with the blinds open, just to spite us.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (87EdW)

341 Czech Republic and Slovakia, the "Velvet Divorce."
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (xPl2J)


They sort of have history of being independent countries.

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (zr5Kq)

342 223 They can leave - as individuals.

They ARE NOT ALLOWED to take that land with them.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at April 09, 2020 04:24 PM (rPFP1)

They could move to Brazil like the holdout Confederates did. They want CA to be like Brazil anyway so they'd for right in.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater



Considering that much of LA/SF is well on it's way of resembling "City of God" (movie), you may be right.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (MVR7y)

343 Never listened to anything by "Badfinger" but the music is from a film "The Magic Christian". Is that something I want to know about? Probably not.

Trippy 60's movie.

Featured Peter Sellers, Ringo Starr, Raquel Welch, Christopher Lee, and Yul Brenner in drag. Also John Cleese's first film role, I believe.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (I2/tG)

344 Wasn't he just praising him last week?

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (dUJdY)

345 338 Escape from LA and Escape from New York? it's a double feature
Posted by: x at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (nFwvY)

===========

Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (zZbCU)

346 Gavin's wife calls herself "First Partner". Seriously.
That makes him gay, right?
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (v0R5T)


Yes, actually.

They're a marriage of convenience. She bangs Paolo while Gavin watches and gets railed by Max in the corner.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)

347 i'm in favor of letting them build their Socialist Utopia.

for the lulzzz
Posted by: ace


The book "Ecotopia" spelled this out in agonizing (but unintentionally comical) detail.

Seriously, California has had this fantasy (of forming their own nation) since the early '70s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecotopia

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (N9G0H)

348 >>so, what do you do with all the military bases in Cali?

Military bases are federal property.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (ZLI7S)

349 The other problem with letting these assholes remain in what is dearly bought and paid for US territory, is that you have a Chinese ally and saboteur state within our borders.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (MQ0v4)

350 Which I don't get at all. Maybe it's because I'm I guy, but Robert O'Rourke seemed gawky, gangly and slightly inbred, not anything one would consider "dreamy."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (NWiLs)


He was a drug-addled nitwit. Voted most likely to be found eventually on the floor of a cheap motel room.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (GArKj)

351 332
303 264 I don't want California to secede. We'll have Chinese bases there in a year.


We have a Security Sphere.
Put in Chicom bases, we seize the whole state back and institute martial law.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (oVJmc)

352 Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (ptqGC)

353
Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (zZbCU)


How did this guy get a movie thread?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)

354 Can't think of a catchy name for this like Brexit.

Hmmm...Califexit?

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (u6xw0)

355 So Newsom has let his socialist mouth overload his puny socialist brain.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (axyOa)
.........

The Men's Hair products have soaked through his skull.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

356 The more difficult division involves major military platforms, jets, aircraft carriers, navy ships, tanks, etc.



ICBMs...



I'm going to guess this is all resolvable. THe left barely even wants this shit.



Whatever shit they start with, they'll sell it to us within 10 years at a discount.





Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (PbpT7)
That's all Federal property, the military doesn't have to ask their permission to move it out of the state. And I bet a fair number of the men and women IN the military from California, would pick the US over their home state so long as provisions are made for them to find a new home.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (e284m)

357 I seem to recall the muzzies and the hindis traded places for India/Paki, but I wouldn't say it was bloodless.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (r+sAi)

358 I have heard that the problem is more about freight capacity than production.

Trucks are being filled with food because that's the most critical. Toilet paper and paper towels take a lot of volume, despite being so light.

So I hear that groceries are mainly shipping food and water and stuff, and toilet paper is being deliberately left off trucks.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (PbpT7)

359 348 >>so, what do you do with all the military bases in Cali?

Military bases are federal property.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (ZLI7S)

===========

"I hurt myself, today..."
-Fort Sumter

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (zZbCU)

360 Insom - I think it's all the birth control pills those women are taking. Throws their endocrine systems so out of whack that they think effeminate little soyboys are attractive.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (rWZ8Y)

361 I don't want California to secede. We'll have Chinese bases there in a year.

Not if they can't run the blockade. Oh, and start drilling oil wells off the CA coast. We'll just have to deal with their Navy.

Posted by: pep at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (T6t7i)

362 can't we just nuke the san andreas fault line like Lex Luthor did in the first Superman movie?

that would pretty much take care of the problem.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (d7Ww2)

363 335 Gavin's wife calls herself "First Partner". Seriously.
That makes him gay, right?
Posted by: wth

I think it means she's no lady.

Posted by: Moki at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (mFoNl)

364 eh, it's all fun to mumble about, but in the end this is just another California dumpster fire that will burn out and come to nothing.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (e284m)

365 Is it still a civil war if they leave and the rest of us just let them?

Posted by: Emmie at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (ouBhA)

366 353
Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (zZbCU)

How did this guy get a movie thread?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)

===========

Bruce Campbell as the Surgeon General of LA!!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:39 PM (zZbCU)

367 I grew up in CA and it was paradise. Leftist like ticks, migrate and attach themselves to anything beautiful and make it sick.


Same story here. Although not quite "paradise" it was better than most had it. Now I'm trying to convince my brothers to take their marketable skills and GTFO while they still can.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (SchxB)

368 SOON.
Posted by: The Grim Reaper at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (oVJmc)


Bullshit. You've been saying that about RBG for 40 years now.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (Zz0t1)

369 Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?

-----------

I would expect it to be low.

They have great healthcare. Best in the world really.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (C0xFb)

370 Gavin's wife calls herself "First Partner". Seriously.
That makes him gay, right?
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (v0R5T)


What is it with these liberals broads who think that if hubby gets elected to something, that they now have some authority?

If hubby had been elected sheriff, could Mrs. Hubby write traffic tickets? If hubby were a surgeon, could Mrs. Hubby perform operations? WTF?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (GArKj)

371 Georgia Pacific, P&G and Kimberly Clark make most of the toilet paper. They don't want to open more plants to keep up with demand because the margins are not big enough. That's the bottom line. I have a friend whose dad works in one of the plants. He says they are lterally full of shit

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (VpIIl)

372 >>"I hurt myself, today..."
-Fort Sumter

And that's when the fight started.

Literally.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (ZLI7S)

373 As a CA resident, I'm opting for the war scenario. I want to see the people who ruined this State shot.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (F6tBH)

374 Its pretty easy to bring Cali to its knees by cutting of fed money.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (r+sAi)

375 Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?

No. They're probably all dead now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (GArKj)

376 >>In those crazy days Arizona blew up the bridges across the Colorado River to protect itself from the California "Army". They needn't have bothered. The "Army" was too busy organizing strikes to get their marijuana rations raised to invade anyone.



"To be honest, we did it to stop the drag queens," confided militia captain Ed "Rusty" Monroe. "We'd get word that they were planning an invasion, hunker down for a fight only to have them strut up to the middle of the bridge and start dancing and grinding on each other. It was the strangest thing: they thought they could defeat us with their tight dresses, enormous wigs, house music and waving glow in the dark dildos at us. WTF, queens?! Stopping that nightly sh#t was a mercy killin'. . "

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (bDqIh)

377 Hey I thought California had billions in surplus, why do they need any federal funding at all?

Take your dopers, homeless, crazies, leftists, pedos, Pedros, and the FTHO.

Commie bastards.

Posted by: Inspector Johnson at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (Gihrr)

378 Newsoms doing this because he praised Trump and now they are all circling their wagons to get Biden elected... Can't let Trump look good

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (5bxa0)

379
Military bases with a 5 mile perimeter remain US territory? Girmos on the Pacific.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (pS94+)

380 335 Gavin's wife calls herself "First Partner". Seriously.
That makes him gay, right?
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (v0R5T)

grabin da hangdown as it swings by

that makes Gavin gay

Posted by: REDACTED at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (rpxSz)

381 373 As a CA resident, I'm opting for the war scenario. I want to see the people who ruined this State shot.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (F6tBH)


My man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (GArKj)

382 He was so friggen stoned he had to have 2 flygirls on either side just to keep him upright ...
Posted by: Adriane the Cynical Critic ..

And your point is?

Posted by: Hnak Williams at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (LWu6U)

383 I don't want California to secede. We'll have Chinese bases there in a year.

Not if they can't run the blockade. Oh, and start drilling oil wells off the CA coast. We'll just have to deal with their Navy.

--------------

The Monroe Doctrine will still exist.

It does need a little reassertion.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (C0xFb)

384 I wish they would secede already. I don't even wish them ill! California probably could make a go of nationhood - The need to run their country responsibly should be incentive to focus their minds on realistic economics and politics. Maybe if they are solely responsible for their fate, they'd have a bit more respect for the water infrastructure that terraformed their desert state and begin to maintain it properly.

I'm just so sick of their shit. Do it already! Secede.

The US is already too big and divided to work - we'd be better off breaking into smaller, governable nations that can focus on something constructive instead of tribal warfare.

Posted by: madrocketsci at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (+G8SK)

385 Don't get your hopes up. It's all just tawk.

Posted by: Khun Ty at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (cnW2x)

386 California's accounted itself away from financial collapse (by placing the financial burden on its lower entities and ignoring all the problems with CALPERS), but I shall once again advance my idea for a constitutional amendment to deal with states that declare bankruptcy.

The state immediately loses its status as a state, devolving to a territory. The president is to appoint a military governor.

All elected officials in the state at every level are barred from serving in government across the United States at any level forever.

The state will regain its state status when it passes a new constitution that includes a balanced budget amendment and it has paid back at least 50% of its last state budget shortfall in gold.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:36 PM (zZbCU)

I'm going to amend this - the state does not necessarily regain state status. It might be partitioned into smaller states, or divided among neighboring states, as Congress shall see fit.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (O4K4J)

387 375 Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?

No. They're probably all dead now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (GArKj)


"We tried to tell Michael, but he wouldn't listen!"

- - Ola and Roth, LLC

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (pS94+)

388 And the Pacific, that's a big river for the Chicoms to cross with any significant troops, without sinking USS Japan and USS Taiwan first.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (e284m)

389 297
Never listened to anything by "Badfinger" but the music is from a film
"The Magic Christian". Is that something I want to know about? Probably
not.


Not a great film, really kind of a mess.
The 'Magic Christian' is the name of a ship, not a religious reference.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (oVJmc)

390 386
I'm going to amend this - the state does not necessarily regain state status. It might be partitioned into smaller states, or divided among neighboring states, as Congress shall see fit.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (O4K4J)

============

Accepted, and amended.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (zZbCU)

391 Can't we at least arrest the California Congressional delegation as agents of a foreign power?

Please?

Posted by: aelfheld at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (IxDhF)

392 This is War of the Roses, and that whore wife of ours will be running a train on China, Cuba, and Iran, with the blinds open, just to spite us.

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Omigawd.

I love this place. The worlds best thinkers, writers, and prankster are here.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (nw6Hr)

393 When I voted for Trump I was hoping for a radical change agent. In some ways, Trump is, in many others, he's a very pedestrian play-by-the-rules leader. He built a phenomenal economy, perhaps believing this was the fundamental challenge and the engine through which to reinvigorate certain American ideals and as a result, roll back those Leftist gains.

But I always maintained that the Left and the media would wage a war on him like nothing ever seen before, and if he didn't recognize this and wage a greater one on them, it might all be for naught.

His economy is pretty in shambles, or soon will be. So, once re-elected (if he is re-elected) he'll have a choice: expend his efforts and political capital on rebuilding that economy, or decide that war with the Left is really the primary challenge if America is to survive, and moreover that it a far more important legacy than an ephemeral economic boom.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (H8QX8)

394 Breaking up California would accomplish the same thing. Decentralize the influence and break up the electoral college votes so they no longer have such a huge influence on elections.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (QzF6i)

395 Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM


This is how trust dies.

Posted by: Prometheus at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (DMUuz)

396 If memory serves me right, doesn't a good chunk of LA water come from a lake in Neveda? If so, doesn't that put Newsome in a bad bargaining position when a large chunk of his population can die of thirst by simply turning off the spigot not under his control?

Posted by: Mallamutt, The State of Illinois says I am essential. at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (dA2gn)

397 375 Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?


zero, my friend

why do you ask ?

Posted by: Cuba Bob at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (rpxSz)

398 speaking as someone who is not a divorce lawyer...

people need to decide what they really want: a divorce, or retribution. because these goals are not compatible.

people who want retribution are actually still seeking to be in a toxic relationship. They're not ready to give up on it. They want the apology, they want the other person to "make things right."

I do not want apologies and I do not think this can be made right.

I just want gone.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (PbpT7)

399
Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?



No. They're probably all dead now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (GArKj)


Great. Then PDT should invade it and annex it to the state of Florida. It would make a nice addition to the FL Keys once it's cleaned up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (ptqGC)

400 SOON.
Posted by: The Grim Reaper at April 09, 2020 04:37 PM (oVJmc)



Bwahahaa...that old gag!!

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (u6xw0)

401 Well, Junior just started watching Paddington 2 on his own.

I think I may be raising him right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (zZbCU)

402
294 Was there ever a national breakup that was not accompanied by civil war ?
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:32 PM (zr5Kq)


Czechoslovakia split into Slovakia and the Czech Republic without incident, IIRC.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (pNxlR)

403 395 Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM

This is how trust dies.
Posted by: Prometheus at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (DMUuz)

=========

Ridley Scott's British.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (zZbCU)

404 Did Ace just insinuate he lives in Cali?

I was sure he lived in NYC. Unless he is supporting the Schlichter Plan. I understand that there was quite a lot of brass used in that one.

Not that I mind. I am a Californian and was planning my exit for this summer before all this insanity came on.

Posted by: Morticus Khan at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (qlPYn)

405 The US is already too big and divided to work - we'd be better off breaking into smaller, governable nations that can focus on something constructive instead of tribal warfare.
Posted by: madrocketsci at April 09, 2020 04:41 PM (+G8SK)

The problem isn't one of red states and blue states, but red states and blue cities. That problem will persist in the successor nations.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (O4K4J)

406 Nation-building! Try at home first and only THEN export.

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:44 PM (zr5Kq)

407 18 >>I only want go-getters and self-starters in the Real America, anyway.

So we don't get to come?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:11
----------------------
Just popped in. This made me LOL. Thanks, Jack, I needed that.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at April 09, 2020 04:44 PM (Dhht7)

408 So Gavin is calling for a nation divorce, lets get it on.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2020 04:44 PM (ZCEU2)

409 After the original revolutionary war we sent the loyalists to Canada and the Caribbean so there is precedent for sending disloyal elements to their masters - I presume Gov Grusome and most of the Democrat-China party will be very happy in their new Chinese homes....right?


Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2020 04:44 PM (WdocV)

410 Czechoslovakia split into Slovakia and the Czech Republic without incident, IIRC.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 09, 2020 04:43 PM (pNxlR)

yeah, @341

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (zr5Kq)

411 people need to decide what they really want: a divorce, or retribution. because these goals are not compatible.

----------

With the proper retribution, you don't need the divorce.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (C0xFb)

412 >>If hubby had been elected sheriff, could Mrs. Hubby write traffic tickets? If hubby were a surgeon, could Mrs. Hubby perform operations? WTF?



Oh, there's a hilarious Bill Burr bit on that.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (bDqIh)

413 396
If memory serves me right, doesn't a good chunk of LA water come from a
lake in Neveda? If so, doesn't that put Newsome in a bad bargaining
position when a large chunk of his population can die of thirst by
simply turning off the spigot not under his control?

Posted by: Mallamutt, The State of Illinois says I am essential. at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (dA2gn)
AND his electrical grid. Because you know, they NIMBY'd a lot of their power plants to the surrounding states so as not to sully the pure California air

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (e284m)

414 I went to a few stores today in New York and New Jersey for resupply. There were actually lines at some supermarkets to get in. I was one of maybe 1/3 who were not wearing masks. I struck up a conversation with a few other guys who were also veterans. No masks either, btw. We talked about how this doesn't even feel like America now, and we want our lives back. I think people in general are getting very itchy and this can't go on much longer. Unless they want riots, they better start putting the plan out there and letting people know.

Oh, and three stores. Still no toilet paper. F the incompetent Koch brothers who own Georgia Pacific. The paper industry can't keep up with this demand? Really? They suck.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:35 PM (VpIIl)



NJ issued an order yesterday making wearing of masks mandatory at all businesses that are still open. That's both employees and shoppers.


Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (mf5HN)

415 Califuckit?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (QzF6i)

416 Can't do it, ace. The question is settled. Secession is illegal. Uncle Sam keeps California. If a bunch of people who live in California don't like it, tough shit. Move, go to jail, or die.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (ja/kn)

417 I wouldn't give them five years.

Now. They can put it on this year's ballot as one of those propositions and let the people decide.

Decide now.

Posted by: SwA at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (8fB/R)

418 411 people need to decide what they really want: a divorce, or retribution. because these goals are not compatible.

----------

With the proper retribution, you don't need the divorce.
Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (C0xFb)

===========

Cut California up, put it in some luggage, and hope Jimmy Stewart doesn't figure anything out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (zZbCU)

419 What is it with these liberals broads who think that if hubby gets elected to something, that they now have some authority?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM


Ahem.

Posted by: Co-President Hillary at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (DMUuz)

420 403 395 Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM

This is how trust dies.
Posted by: Prometheus at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (DMUuz)

To the sound of absolutely no applause whatsoever.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (NWiLs)

421 416 Can't do it, ace. The question is settled. Secession is illegal. Uncle Sam keeps California. If a bunch of people who live in California don't like it, tough shit. Move, go to jail, or die.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (ja/kn)

===========

If secession is illegal, then why does West Virginia exist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (zZbCU)

422 It's hard to believe the citizens of Californicated voted for The Great Ronald Reagan to be POTUS. Twice.



WTF happened to this state? The last decent governor was Pete Wilson. After him the state started its slide into the abyss.

Reagan's Amnesty, maybe?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (oVJmc)
\
California courts overturning Prop. 187. Beginning of the end.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (Ed8Zd)

423 His economy is pretty in shambles, or soon will be. So, once re-elected (if he is re-elected) he'll have a choice: expend his efforts and political capital on rebuilding that economy, or decide that war with the Left is really the primary challenge if America is to survive, and moreover that it a far more important legacy than an ephemeral economic boom.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (H8QX
++++++++++++++++++
Economic reform - that is, deregulation, reduced taxes, better competition, etc. (that is, freedom) - is essential to fighting the Left. Defeating the left without removing their hooks from the economy via the regulatory and tax systems is not a fight that can be won. It's a multifront battle and the economy is one pretty important front.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (hYcqw)

424 We aren't looking for any apologies.

We are looking for submission.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (C0xFb)

425 people need to decide what they really want: a divorce, or retribution. because these goals are not compatible.

----------

With the proper retribution, you don't need the divorce.
Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (C0xFb)


or, OR ! one side wants (national) divorce and the other does not. at least not on the same terms, then what ?

Posted by: runner at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (zr5Kq)

426 Also, Trump needs to send the army into these leftist states to enforce the integrity of the ballot. CA is a lost cause - they have millions of illegals voting for whoever they are told to but millions more LIVs also voting for who they are told to vote for.

But I'm not sure the real totals in say WA or CO are anywhere near the published results.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (WdocV)

427 Hey Gavin,

YOU'RE. DOING. WHAT. TRUMP. F*KING. TOLD. YOU. TO. DO.

It isn't a "feeble federal response," the feds are a BACKUP to the states.

Posted by: Another Sam at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (buBgM)

428 If California would leave, we wouldn't have 57 varieties of gasoline, and we wouldn't have a "may cause cancer" warning on every product in the world.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (C1Lsn)

429 We need to keep San Diego for its harbor. And adjust the border with Nevada somewhat so that their sources of water in the Sierras are in the U.S. But otherwise, I'm fine with a Calif-exit.

Posted by: Bud Norton at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (KoWnw)

430 So lemme see if I have this right. On one side, there's

1. Californica
2. China
3. Screeching trannies
4. Feminazis
5. Illegals
6. Sidewalk poopers
7. Unimprisoned felons
8. Globull Warmenists

On other side is:

1. Normal people


Hmmm, I think I'm kind of ok with the Civil War.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (hku12)

431 I suppose someone already said 'lighten up, Francis'.

But I'm saying it again.

Francis has fought the good fight from the ramparts of Rolling Stone....

Posted by: jrc at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (FuyJU)

432 If this was serious, California would be part of Mexico in five years and part of China in ten.

I have a suspicion that Governor Newsome has an idea for a Nation-State that gets it's Defense paid for by someone else, a bit like Europe, it's Social Safety Net paid for by someone else, and get's it's electricity from somewhere else and teleported from that place to the state so they don't need to bother with long distance transmission lines. Oh, and someone else has to pay for the water infrastructure they have been ignoring for 30-40 years.

Posted by: JB1000 at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (geO1h)

433 Has anyone heard what the death toll in Cuba is?



No. They're probably all dead now.


Nothing from the Norks either. Dear Tubby Leader is a rolling butterball of "underlying conditions". Just sayin.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (MQ0v4)

434 After the original revolutionary war we sent the loyalists to Canada and the Caribbean so there is precedent for sending disloyal elements to their masters - I presume Gov Grusome and most of the Democrat-China party will be very happy in their new Chinese homes....right?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2020 04:44 PM (WdocV)

I endorse this plan, with the provision that it be a population swap for Hong Kong's anti-communists and other groups of individualists.

Our collectivists for their individualists. Everyone wins, at least on paper. (We get hardworking people who want to be free, they get Starbucks baristas who think they should run the world.)

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (O4K4J)

435 "He wore a raspberry sombrero..."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 09, 2020 04:31 PM (pS94+)


Don't look that up on urban dictionary.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (t+qrx)

436 An acquaintance of mine just moved/drove to Orlando. Not sure the exact reason, but he WAS in the Seattle area and packed up and drove to Florida.

He posted on FB that he arrived at his temporary Town Home and would be checking the area out before he decided to buy.

It took 5 comments before someone said "Sorry about your governor" to which he responded "Hopefully I brought some blue with me along with all this rain."

Um, you LEFT your liberal shithole because it was a liberal SHITHOLE, you fucking idiot.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)

437 Cool with me. re-route the Colorado river

Posted by: Mog Smash at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (CgFRV)

438 Marcus T - Only permitting x amount of customers in at a time I'm guessing.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (ZCEU2)

439 413 396
If memory serves me right, doesn't a good chunk of LA water come from a
lake in Neveda? If so, doesn't that put Newsome in a bad bargaining
position when a large chunk of his population can die of thirst by
simply turning off the spigot not under his control?

Posted by: Mallamutt, The State of Illinois says I am essential. at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (dA2gn)
AND his electrical grid. Because you know, they NIMBY'd a lot of their power plants to the surrounding states so as not to sully the pure California air
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (e284m)

Cut that shit off, bomb the highways, and blockade the California coast.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

440 One more thing;

No California, you have to keep Alyssa Milano.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (qAR6u)

441 Thanks for adding in the caveat about counties getting to vote - we need to keep San Diego County in the US or the FruitLoopistanis will just open the Mexican border.

Posted by: motionview at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (pYQR/)

442 >>So Gavin is calling for a nation divorce, lets get it on.


Next time I see him in town I am going to stop him and ask him for his passport and visa.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (Q5lAo)

443 speaking as someone who is not a divorce lawyer...

people need to decide what they really want: a divorce, or retribution. because these goals are not compatible.

people who want retribution are actually still seeking to be in a toxic relationship. They're not ready to give up on it. They want the apology, they want the other person to "make things right."

I do not want apologies and I do not think this can be made right.

I just want gone.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (PbpT7)



The fights in domestic cases where the parties are each spending $250+ an hour to fight over the Keurig are not about the principle of the thing or whatever bullshit the client says.

It's about making the other person pay.

Whereas the party who just wants gone will say give me the number to make them go away and done and done, see ya.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (mf5HN)

444 403 395 Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM

c'mon man

I got 2 words for ya

Caddyshack

Posted by: The cool Joe at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (rpxSz)

445 348 >>so, what do you do with all the military bases in Cali?

Military bases are federal property.

Ok....so how do we anex the port of San Diego when there's almost no demarcation between the Navel Facilities, Civilian Docks and most of the military personel and their families actually LIVE off base in the city?

It's not like there's an easy Black and White line where we can call the division "Main St." and both sides walk away happy.

Posted by: MrObvious at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (5prN7)

446

What will be left are The Streets of San Francisco and NOT the TV show of old.

Posted by: SwA at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (8fB/R)

447 My local Publix had everything in stock yesterday. I actually scored a pack of Charmin for the first time in a month! It was like I won the lottery.

As I was leaving, the townies were pulling in. A girlfriend called me later and said two "gurls" were loading up two shopping carts with ALL the bananas. An employee told them they couldn't take six dozen bunches of bananas. WTH? Were they going to take them back to town and sell them?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (ptqGC)

448 NJ issued an order yesterday making wearing of masks mandatory at all businesses that are still open. That's both employees and shoppers.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:45 PM (mf5HN)
++++++++++++++
If that's the case, then is the state government supplying them in some fashion? I don't know if you've tried recently, but it's damn near impossible to get your hands on a mask right now. I have some on order, and some in my medicine cabinet if needed (I subscribe to the Asian notion on this one - if I am feeling sniffly but have to go to work, I wear one to protect my colleagues) but I'm SOL if they make them mandatory and will violate the "law" because it is impossible to comply.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (hYcqw)

449 436 An acquaintance of mine just moved/drove to Orlando. Not sure the exact reason, but he WAS in the Seattle area and packed up and drove to Florida.

He posted on FB that he arrived at his temporary Town Home and would be checking the area out before he decided to buy.

It took 5 comments before someone said "Sorry about your governor" to which he responded "Hopefully I brought some blue with me along with all this rain."

Um, you LEFT your liberal shithole because it was a liberal SHITHOLE, you fucking idiot.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)

And THIS is why we don't want those motherfuckers moving here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (NWiLs)

450 Oh, and three stores. Still no toilet paper. F the incompetent Koch
brothers who own Georgia Pacific. The paper industry can't keep up with
this demand? Really? They suck.

***

The inability of modern industry to be flexible is fascinating.


1945 America would have already switched over to supplying the now scare paper products. Oh and it would have started bombing China for their bio-terror attack as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (WdocV)

451 people need to decide what they really want: a divorce, or retribution.

I don't see 'hangings' or 'torn apart by wild animals' on your list.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (MQ0v4)

452 West VA seceded from VA during civil war. No one is seceding from USA. Illegal. The proposition has been tested, and a lot of good men died making sure it failed. Settled question.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (ja/kn)

453 419 What is it with these liberals broads who think that if hubby gets elected to something, that they now have some authority?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM



You have never been part of an officer's wives' group on/off base, have you.

Posted by: Moki at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (mFoNl)

454 If secession is illegal, then why does West Virginia exist?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM (zZbCU)


Well, they were part of Virgina and Virginia Seceded from the union, West Virginia did not secede.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (o2MD2)

455

If you want California to vote BEET RED in the next election, force every voter to re-register, every one, and they have to prove they have a US birth certificate (easy enough to do, all birth records are online accessible) or the federal court action that made them a naturalized citizen (again, accessible on line) BEFORE being able to vote in any Federal election.

And just like that, California will be American again.


As red as the blood that spurts out when a traitor's throat is slashed.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (sy5kK)

456 Funny that I called for CW early today on another thread. CA is beyond help.


Lets get it over with.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (0OmEj)

457
Oh look, prominent Californian Bill Gates wants everybody to carry a certificate that they got the china flu vaccine.

Here's my papers Bill *flips middle finger*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (r+sAi)

458 "373 As a CA resident, I'm opting for the war scenario. I want to see the people who ruined this State shot.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (F6tBH)"

You just got my vote.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (VpIIl)

459 California can't even keep their power grid up.

I don't see this so much a divorce as cutting loose a mentally challenged child. They would starve in year. Probably less.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (ZLI7S)

460 funnier Sub - Headline would have been :

Like Ray Charles famously sang : Let's Get it On

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (Q5lAo)

461 Oh shit, now you guys want to Danzig corridor San Diego?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (e284m)

462 No 55 electoral college votes for California this election. Enjoy your nation state run by Cartels and the Chinese.... for now.

Posted by: it begins... at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (lBCgE)

463 >>>
Whereas the party who just wants gone will say give me the number to make them go away and done and done, see ya.

right. it's the difference between hot rage and cold distaste.

I don't want anything to do with these people. I don't want vengeance. I think reality will impose its own vengeance.

But even if it doesn't -- I want out. I don't care about Blue America dating other people or what stuff they get to keep. I just want them gone.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (PbpT7)

464 >>Um, you LEFT your liberal shithole because it was a liberal SHITHOLE, you fucking idiot.


As a former Coloradan, trust me, they do not get that. They will try to turn wherever they've left into the same dang sh#thole they left.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (bDqIh)

465 The Baron of Arizona

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2020 04:50 PM (aKsyK)

466 https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
5pm EDT (in about 10 minutes)
PDT

Posted by: m at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (Y3R0d)

467
Maybe we could have gas cans that pour, washers that wash, toilets that flush, powerful showerheads and find that everything under the sun may not cause cancer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (mht8P)

468 No California, you have to keep Alyssa Milano.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (qAR6u)


And the ex-royals and their sprog.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (t+qrx)

469 people who want retribution are actually still seeking to be in a toxic relationship. They're not ready to give up on it. They want the apology, they want the other person to "make things right." 

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (PbpT7)

This only makes sense in the modern, pussified version of Western marriage. If you attempted enforcing a family court ruling on a 17th century European, they would kill the judge and then the wife.

This isn't a divorce, it is war. And a shit lot more separates the nations of America than separates the Founders from Britain.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (AjgVK)

470
And THIS is why we don't want those motherfuckers moving here.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (NWiLs)


Nor here.

Sorry. If I had FB, I'd drop some comments, but he's a Brazilian transplant and a full blown commie.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (Zz0t1)

471 1945 America would have already switched over to supplying the now scare paper products. Oh and it would have started bombing China for their bio-terror attack as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (WdocV)

------

*holds up two fingers*

Two. Two generations. I told you so.

~Nakita Kruschev

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (nw6Hr)

472
As I was leaving, the townies were pulling in. A girlfriend called
me later and said two "gurls" were loading up two shopping carts with
ALL the bananas. An employee told them they couldn't take six dozen
bunches of bananas. WTH? Were they going to take them back to town and
sell them?


How long would they last, a week?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (oVJmc)

473 BTW if CA does go can we call it CACK-it?


Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (WdocV)

474 do you think newsome knows what he's saying when he says 'nation-state' or is he just having diarrhea of the mouth

Posted by: DB- just DB. at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (iTXRQ)

475 Daggone, it's windy here! The wind just blew over my very heavy chaise lounge chair and threw it into the landscaping!

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (JoUsr)

476 Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM

Somewhere there is a jilted lady, stood up at the alter, and crying in the rain...and that lady's name is Prometheus.

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (32YRo)

477 Last time someone posted Virus numbers for California, they looked really low for such a huge populous state with all those homeless. Are the homeless getting the virus and spreading it? If not, why not. They sure as hell aren't social distancing, have underlying medical problems and aren;t wearing masks and shitting in the street(supposedly passes through fecal matter, right?).

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (QzF6i)

478 It took 5 comments before someone said "Sorry about
your governor" to which he responded "Hopefully I brought some blue with
me along with all this rain."



Um, you LEFT your liberal shithole because it was a liberal SHITHOLE, you fucking idiot.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)



And THIS is why we don't want those motherfuckers moving here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (NWiLs)


Same here. Unfortunately, we have a heavy infestation of locusts already.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (ptqGC)

479 Oh look, prominent Californian Bill Gates wants everybody to carry a certificate that they got the china flu vaccine.

----------

No doubt, something that you have to pay for on an annual basis.

And each year, this license will come with upgrades that no one asked for, but apparently are worth the extra $5 per month.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (C0xFb)

480
Reminds me of this oldie but goodie:

TEENAGERS:
If You Are Tired of
Being Hassled By
UNREASONABLE PARENTS
NOW Is the Time for Action!!!
Leave Home and Pay Your Own Way
WHILE YOU STILL KNOW EVERYTHING

Posted by: YIKES! at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (t6XCL)

481 Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (PbpT7)

If those are the choices, I want the kind of divorce where I get the house, car, and kids, and they get nothing.

I want all of these authoritarian bootlickers cheap-freighted to some nation whose government more closely confirms to their preferences, and traded for some of the hundreds of millions around the world who still admire America and want to become Americans.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (O4K4J)

482 Hope you guys took my tip on SUN

Posted by: REDACTED at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (rpxSz)

483 452 West VA seceded from VA during civil war. No one is seceding from USA. Illegal. The proposition has been tested, and a lot of good men died making sure it failed. Settled question.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (ja/kn)


Yeah, but it would be different today. Because back in Civil War times, they didn't have Twitter and Instagram.

Posted by: California Millennial Genius at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (sy5kK)

484 We are looking for submission.
Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:46 PM


This.

Posted by: letters@penthouse.com at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (DMUuz)

485 >>>This isn't a divorce, it is war. And a shit lot more separates the nations of America than separates the Founders from Britain.


no one is going to agree to war.

you are making the perfect the enemy of the good.

You are fighting to "save this relationship" by daydreaming about impossible scenarios.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (PbpT7)

486 If secession is illegal, then why does West Virginia exist?


Virginia took advantage of a drunk Kentucky one night?

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (MVR7y)

487
As a CA resident, I'm opting for the war scenario. I want to see the people who ruined this State shot.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (F6tBH)


Drawn, quartered and gibbeted.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (mht8P)

488 This could work out if all the Californians who emigrated to Texas, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, and Idaho returned to their New Utopia.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (qAR6u)

489 If you want California to vote BEET RED in the next election, force every voter to re-register, every one, and they have to prove they have a US birth certificate (easy enough to do, all birth records are online accessible) or the federal court action that made them a naturalized citizen (again, accessible on line) BEFORE being able to vote in any Federal election.
...
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (sy5kK)
+++++++++++++
And then keep doing it. After the election results are certified in each general (every four years), the voter rolls should be burned. Everyone who wants to vote in the next one has 18 months to re-register.

Not for CA, especially. I think this would be good general practice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (hYcqw)

490 Maybe we could have gas cans that pour, washers that wash, toilets that flush, powerful showerheads and find that everything under the sun may not cause cancer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (mht8P)


------

I CAN HAZ MY PHOSPHATES BACK !???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (nw6Hr)

491 If that's the case, then is the state government supplying them in some fashion? I don't know if you've tried recently, but it's damn near impossible to get your hands on a mask right now. I have some on order, and some in my medicine cabinet if needed (I subscribe to the Asian notion on this one - if I am feeling sniffly but have to go to work, I wear one to protect my colleagues) but I'm SOL if they make them mandatory and will violate the "law" because it is impossible to comply.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (hYcqw)



Of course not, don't be ridiculous.

The stores are supposed to ask people to leave if they aren't wearing the masks that they cannot get because there aren't any and why do you have a N95 mask anyway you wrecker and it's not punitive and just what will happen when someone double middle fingers the demand to leave?

Hmm? What's that? I couldn't hear you because no answer, there, Authoritarian Boy.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (mf5HN)

492 I missed the Morning Rant and Art Thread today; what exciting things happened? IN those threads, I mean.

Miss Linda got me to take her to Target. Normally I have no problem with that particular brand; the stores are cleaner and better lit than WallyMart, putting me in a better mood. We get there, and I turn to see she is wrapping a bandanna (she of course calls it a "scarf") around the lower half of her face. She looks as though she's about to rob the 4:00 stage from Tombstone. "Take that off!" I say. "You're pretty, don't hide your face!"

Once inside, naturally, she has to look at Every Single Rack of Every Single Thing. Not really -- but it seems that way to me, who long ago evolved my shopping philosophy: Get In, Get It, Get Out. Nowadays, too, it limits your exposure to whatever might be lurking on surfaces.

One bag of jelly beans, one bag of chocolate eggs, a tube of Shoe Goo (for me), and several miscellaneous items later, we flee to the checkout and at last emerge, poorer but triumphant.

Every day is an adventure, I'm tellin' ya.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (rpbg1)

493 I have relatives in Kern County, They would be the first to stop this type of BS. Californicate (ie LA and SF) have screwed up some of the most beautiful country in the US.
I feel (see Dems, we do to) this travesty shoul be put in check. VOTE Cali. You like what you have created? Stop pushing it on the rest of the country!!!!

Posted by: Boliver Shagnasty at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (fJ+BQ)

494 487
As a CA resident, I'm opting for the war scenario. I want to see the people who ruined this State shot.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at April 09, 2020 04:40 PM (F6tBH)

Drawn, quartered and gibbeted.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (mht8P)

Gibbet gravy! Yum!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (NWiLs)

495 >> I don't care about Blue America... I just want them gone.


Soylent Green Energy : Nothing Says You Care Like Jumping Into Our Furnace

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (Q5lAo)

496 479
Oh look, prominent Californian Bill Gates wants everybody to carry a certificate that they got the china flu vaccine.


We expect the guy who invented *MICROSOFT* to stop a *VIRUS*??????

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (oVJmc)

497 If secession is illegal, then why does West Virginia exist?


Virginia took advantage of a drunk Kentucky one night?
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (MVR7y)

------

Almost heaven.....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (nw6Hr)

498 https://cbsn.ws/2VegyXP
*******
Former Trump campaign adviser denied campaign was involved in DNC hack in recorded conversation - CBS News
*******
Catherine Herridge

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (jiiF1)

499 The real funny here is thats its not much about we want but more about what is inevitable.

You either suck their Marxists dicks or they WILL punish you. Or worse.

The leaving times ---from either perspective--are upon us.

Posted by: Voter theater. at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (xXx5y)

500 I've had my vacuum cleaner sitting out for two weeks now.

I guess now is as good a time as any to use it, while hubby is away at his actual office.

When PDT's presser comes on, let's all watch at the end to see which member of the MFM Fauci salutes today. Little tyrant.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (ptqGC)

501 No one is seceding from USA. Illegal.<<<<<<<

We're mostly just shootin the bull here, although we do want Lefty CA people to take a boat to vietnam.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (r+sAi)

502 no one is going to agree to war.

you are making the perfect the enemy of the good.

You are fighting to "save this relationship" by daydreaming about impossible scenarios.

-----------

These things take time. But they eventually lead to war.

Only the residents of New California actually believe that wars are a thing of the past.

The Civil War was almost 100 years in the making.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (C0xFb)

503 lets not be hasty, what will become of Cali's pron industry ??


In all honesty, I think our strategic porn reserves are at max capacity now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (zZXDy)

504
Gavin Newsome does what ever we want him to do.

We run this state.

Posted by: California non-citizens and illegals at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (sy5kK)

505 Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 04:42 PM (PbpT7)


The fights in domestic cases where the parties are each spending $250+ an hour to fight over the Keurig are not about the principle of the thing or whatever bullshit the client says.

It's about making the other person pay.

Whereas the party who just wants gone will say give me the number to make them go away and done and done, see ya.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (mf5HN)


Same principle is true in domestic violence cases. If you want to strangle your partner (or ex), you're still in love.

You happen to be BAD at love, but you're still in it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (hku12)

506 Reality always imposes it's own vengeance, whether it's called the gods of the copybook headings, or the rectification of names, formal national divorce is probably irrelevent to that eventuality.. when shit goes south, being shit-adjacent still gets you splattered.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (87EdW)

507 people who want retribution are actually still seeking to be in a
toxic relationship. They're not ready to give up on it. They want the
apology, they want the other person to "make things right."

---
I don't understand what relationship you envision us having with the progs once they're all dead?

Or I don't understand what you mean by "retribution," one of the two.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (kOpft)

508 A new section of the order imposes restrictions on stores in an effort to reduce crowds. ... Large stores must also close areas of the store that are dedicated to carpeting, flooring, furniture, garden centers, plant nurseries, or paint."

And only 4 people per 1,000 square feet in grocery stores with limited hours.

And she said Residents should not expect that everything is going back to normal on April 30th and almost certainly won't be the last measure taken in Michigan.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (Do5/p)


Very nice of her to confirm what I had already suspected, that things aren't going to get any better in Michigan until she is gone.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (t+qrx)

509 Are the homeless getting the virus and spreading it? If not, why not. They sure as hell aren't social distancing, have underlying medical problems and aren;t wearing masks and shitting in the street(supposedly passes through fecal matter, right?).
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 09, 2020 04:51 PM (QzF6i)


They're not getting reported, but I would doubt they get it.

The population that's infected doesn't go anywhere near the homeless and the homeless don't venture out much.

They've been pretty much self quarantining for a long time.

When they get free government shit, they really don't even need to go out begging.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (Zz0t1)

510 and traded for some of the hundreds of millions around the world who still admire America and want to become Americans.
___


Trade CA's leftist population and a box of donuts for all of Venezuela's non-communist wimmins?


Posted by: Obligatory at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM (WdocV)

511 I CAN HAZ MY PHOSPHATES BACK !???

--

Not sure how they get away with it, but you can get phosphate dish and laundry detergent here.

www.bubblebandit.com

I may try it after I get through with my now-outlawed Cascade powder with phosphates.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (JoUsr)

512 lol. how many divisions does Newsom have?

Posted by: x at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (nFwvY)

513 I would like to invade California and deport all of the non Americans, regardless of where they were born.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (o2MD2)

514 They could move to Brazil like the holdout Confederates did. They want CA to be like Brazil anyway so they'd for right in.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 09, 2020 04:27 PM (QB8to)

---------------

Under Bolsonaro Brazil may not be to their liking.

Posted by: Decaf at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (xarPm)

515 Escape from LA is America's greatest accomplishment in the art of cinema.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (zZbCU)

It's far more entertaining than given credit for. If I happen to catch it on life grinds to a halt until I see the basketball scene. Some years ago my girlfriend and I were late to an appointment because I refused to leave before that scene came on lol.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (j3npP)

516 If California broke away, they'd be absorbed into Mexico within that very hour.

Posted by: RKae at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (FR8/t)

517 Fine. They can stay on the property.



But we charge them rent.

And we will need a month and a half in advance cleaning deposit.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (MQ0v4)

518 Most of the Valley's porn industry is in FL and NV now due to CA's "safety" regulations for porn.



Oh look, prominent Californian Bill Gates wants everybody to carry a certificate that they got the china flu vaccine.


We expect the guy who invented *MICROSOFT* to stop a *VIRUS*??????

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (oVJmc)


No, no, no, he doesn't want us to carry a certificate. He wants us all to get chipped like dogs and have a digital certificate.

Yeah. No.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (mf5HN)

519 Same principle is true in domestic violence cases. If you want to strangle your partner (or ex), you're still in love.

___

Preach it cookie.Say...you wouldn't know any attractive young ladies interested in an internship with one of the news media's hottest stars would you?


Note: They must have a thicker then average skull. In both senses of the term.


Posted by: Morning Joe at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (WdocV)

520 eh, like I said, nothings going to happen. Piglosi, ChinaStein and Cameltow will come flying back to tell little Gavin to shut the fluck up and sit the fluck down.

He's elected governor, on a temporary basis, he's not President for Life.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (e284m)

521 What incentive do states have to do anything the Feds tell them?

The only leverage the Fed has is to withhold money but no Republican would ever do that. Trump is the exception not the rule.

Posted by: MJ at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (gAMkn)

522 If the other states approved, California could succeed tomorrow. I'd want a status of forces agreement and a mutual ally treaty. You could give those in California a non-grandfathered dual citizenship with America. But you still need to set up border and immigration points between us.

On another note, every time I read California, I always hear it in my head the way Arnold says it , "Caullyforneeyaaa."

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (32YRo)

523 Former Trump campaign adviser denied campaign was involved in DNC hack in recorded conversation - CBS News
*******
Catherine Herridge
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (jiiF1)


They're still fucking that chicken?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (Zz0t1)

524 "..majority rule.." What is this that this asshoe speaks of? Still shedding bitter tears from 2016? Sorry if the electoral college offends him (well, not really).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (N39Ws)

525 I say again....Divide the state. Lots of people who live int he northern part already want to do this. This wouldn't be secession as they would still be states. Divide the ninth circuit as well. You take all the power away from the idioits in LA.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (QzF6i)

526 Da fuq? Phones just blew up...soooper urgent emergency- EXTREME...more restrictions from Herr governor

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (/6GbT)

527 It is critical that the Left provoke any civil war. The group that wants to preserve the union will get to dictate terms.

Posted by: Oblivious at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (FJ2CI)

528 For those that keep bringing up the last civil war: (Legal and illegal seem to be irrelevant concepts here, IMO):

Why do we want secession to be hard? Shouldn't it be the other way around: Wouldn't the world be a freer place if it were easy to break down giant super-states and empires and hard to glom them together? Why is it good that people can't go their own way?

Posted by: madrocketsci at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (+G8SK)

529
Ok....so how do we anex the port of San Diego when there's almost no demarcation between the Navel Facilities, Civilian Docks and most of the military personel and their families actually LIVE off base in the city?

It's not like there's an easy Black and White line where we can call the division "Main St." and both sides walk away happy.
Posted by: MrObvious at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (5prN7)








Annex the civilian port facilities under Rule 7.62.

Use Rule 5.56 for family quarters.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (EGyGV)

530 In all likelihood, California would become basically Canada with warm weather. Dependent on trade with America, run by a silly socialist "dreamboat", and a NATO partner dependent on the American military whenever one of their multinational corporations need armed protection

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (qAR6u)

531 No, no, no, he doesn't want us to carry a certificate. He wants us all to get chipped like dogs and have a digital certificate.

Yeah. No.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
+++++++++++++++
I have long said that implanting electronics - except for maybe a pacemaker - is a rubicon I will not cross. Nope. I'll be a second-class citizen long before I'll get chipped.

Fuck these panopticists sideways with a chainsaw.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (hYcqw)

532 512 lol. how many divisions does Newsom have?
Posted by: x at April 09, 2020 04:56 PM (nFwvY)

Kill those Calis who take up arms and hang Newsom and his co-conspirators, even if that means Bloomberg and Soros

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (ONvIw)

533 491: The Queen of AOS has spoken!! I, too, tell them "LOLGF" here in Fl. when the Karens do their PC thing. I still think this is overall overacting BS as the numbers are just not carrying out the response. Trial run?

Posted by: Boliver Shagnasty at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (fJ+BQ)

534 Trying to picture the California nations military. I am picturing maybe something with a rainbow patch and a pink beret. LOLGF

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (TNy/K)

535 People are not eating that much more food ... (a little since they are eating at home more) ... so once all their storage space is full, trucks can start catching up on toilet paper I guess ... and the people that have a closet full won't need to buy it for 3 years, so there will soon be the great toilet paper glut ... ha

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (Cus5s)

536 There is no civil war 'by other means.' No way to know how this plays out, but if California's lead is followed by other Blue states, then things will get dicey and chaotic with a quickness. If this happens during Trump's administration, he'll have no choice but to move against it, forcibly if necessary.

Posted by: troyriser at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (E2EAq)

537
New motto of the nation of California: Nosotros no hablamos ingles.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (mht8P)

538 Sell California to Mexico -- or rather their masters, the cartels.

Posted by: ShainS at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM (o9UFo)

539 >>In all honesty, I think our strategic porn reserves are at max capacity now.

When I first started working in Tampa one of the first things I was told by the locals was Tampa is the porn king of America. I came to realize in short order this was at least partly true.

We got your porn.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (ZLI7S)

540 The population that's infected doesn't go anywhere near the homeless and the homeless don't venture out much.


----

Wait... wut???


But Corona is HIGHLY HIGHLY SUPER INFECTIOUS and it can live on surfaces for, like, a days and days, and not sick people shed those viruses for like.... 36 days man.....


*I may or may not be mocking some the people who posted that assorted amalgamated nonsense

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (nw6Hr)

541 We really don't want a rump state "right next door". One of the best things about the US is our geography, with an ocean on each side, distance from the Euro's and Asia, and manageable neighbors North and South (kind of).

Having Emperor Nuisance and his nation state being so close is just not acceptable. We don't want another Commie state like Cuba so close by and connected by land.

So.......they are going to have to just leave - one way or another. It's our country, we aren't giving it up.

Posted by: CoolHand Luke at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (U2+zT)

542 You could give those in California a
non-grandfathered dual citizenship with America. But you still need to
set up border and immigration points between us.



On another note, every time I read California, I always hear it in my head the way Arnold says it , "Caullyforneeyaaa."

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (32YRo)
Hell no - no dual citizenship - if they go, they go and they're gone. I don't want any dumb flucker who allows this sort of asshatery in their government, and VOTES for the fluckers that do it. If they want to go, let em, but there's no way we give them an out that makes us responsible for the little shits when things go, as they will, tits up.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (e284m)

543 ace, seriously, under no conceivable set of circumstances...your exhaustion with liberals on Twitter included...should the United States of America give up the land of California.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (ja/kn)

544 508

Very nice of her to confirm what I had already suspected, that things aren't going to get any better in Michigan until she is gone.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 09, 2020 04:55 PM

Which unfortunately will not be until JAN 2023 at the earliest.

And that will only happen if the idiots who voted her into office in the first place come to their senses.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (Do5/p)

545
Oh look, prominent Californian Bill Gates wants everybody to carry a certificate that they got the china flu vaccine.

Beast of the Mark

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (aKsyK)

546 Why is it good that people can't go their own way?

-------------

This assume moral relativism.

I reject that.

One side is morally right. The other is immoral and wrong.

The moral side that is right should always be free to go their own way.

The immoral other side should not.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (C0xFb)

547 Point of order. Bill Gates lives in Washington.

Posted by: FromTheOldDays at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (UNyae)

548 >>>
So.......they are going to have to just leave - one way or another. It's our country, we aren't giving it up.

what i'm hearing is "I really want to stay in this toxic relationship forever"

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (PbpT7)

549 I think a President Newsome and Justin Trudeau would look so, so f'ing HAWT together...mmm, I have to go to my king sized bed and warm up my Dominator.

Posted by: Stoopid, Educated, White Beotches, Running the 'Burbs at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (7Fj9P)

550 lol. how many divisions does Newsom have?

Not the California National Guard, I bet.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (I2/tG)

551 455
If you want California to vote BEET RED in the next election, force every voter to re-register, every one, and they have to prove they have a US birth certificate (easy enough to do, all birth records are online accessible) or the federal court action that made them a naturalized citizen (again, accessible on line) BEFORE being able to vote in any Federal election.
And just like that, California will be American again.
As red as the blood that spurts out when a traitor's throat is slashed.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 04:49 PM (sy5kK)
----------------------------------------
Sure. Because none of those illegals ever had any kids.

What you're saying may have been true a generation ago but now? With the idiocy of birthright citizenship in effect, it's too late.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (M/9m0)

552 Hmm? What's that? I couldn't hear you because no answer, there, Authoritarian Boy.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:52 PM (mf5HN)

I have n95s and surgical masks, I bought them in 2018 when a family member had cancer

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (ONvIw)

553 Stacy Keach did a good Lee Van Cleef.

Donald Pleasance was better than Cliff Robertson.

Steve Buscemi turned in a passable Earnest Borgnine.

Isaac Hayes vs. Pam Grier: Duke of NY

Posted by: x at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (nFwvY)

554 Yeah, this is bullshit. We are not going to put up with Sinofornia. No. Fucking.Way.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (L6lkG)

555 ace, seriously, under no conceivable set of circumstances...your exhaustion with liberals on Twitter included...should the United States of America give up the land of California.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 05:00 PM (ja/kn)
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Yup. Revoking her statehood, though, should absolutely be on the table.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (hYcqw)

556 >>> Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:38 PM (zZbCU)

How did this guy get a movie thread?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe


One word. Prometheus

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (66UcN)

557 I kind of like Ace's idea of county by county decisions of secession. The demographics of the USA has changed so much since the last time state borders were defined. It is time to redraw them. If this means secession from the USA -- fine. And I say this living in New England which puts me in enemy territory.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2020 05:01 PM (N39Ws)

558 Annex the civilian port facilities under Rule 7.62.

Use Rule 5.56 for family quarters.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (EGyGV)

You just need a status of forces agreement - its done all the time - we ran Sasebo, Japan as a deep water US Navy port for decades under it.

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 05:02 PM (32YRo)

559 Otherwise continue the hate on Gates. He is evil. Pure evil.

Posted by: FromTheOldDays at April 09, 2020 05:02 PM (UNyae)

560 I stand corrected, Gates wants us chipped like a dog.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2020 05:02 PM (r+sAi)

561 And if we can keep flucking bases IN every damn country in Europe, we can keep them in California.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 05:02 PM (e284m)

562 Speaking on MSNBC, Governor Gavin Newsom said
........

you guys have the best makeup and hair products!

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 05:02 PM (v0R5T)

563 Hey everybody.

I'm in California and I would approve a Calexit frankly. I want out of this state, for numerous reasons. The only reason I stay is because I'm too reliant on stubborn family who refuses to even consider going elsewhere.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2020 05:02 PM (L2ZTs)

564 "Fuck these panopticists sideways with a chainsaw."

that seems unnecessarily messy, and labor intensive. One to the head (forgoing two to the body for the shut down, and for lent) is clean and equally satisfying.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (Cus5s)

565 I'd agree to it if only to get Hollywood out of my country.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (bkUtD)

566 >>>543 ace, seriously, under no conceivable set of circumstances...your exhaustion with liberals on Twitter included...should the United States of America give up the land of California.

what I'm hearing is "I live in california and don't want to move, so to hell with anyone who wants to get out of this toxic relationship"

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

567 >>They're still fucking that chicken?

You might want to check that article out. It is proof that George Papadopoulus told the FBI that the Trump campaign did not hack the DNC. They knew this and never corrected their FISA warrant renewals.

It is the proverbial smoking gun.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (ZLI7S)

568 Da fuq? Phones just blew up...soooper urgent emergency- EXTREME...more restrictions from Herr governor
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (/6GbT)

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Its become a virtue signaling contest now.

Which governor cares more by oppressing the shit out of their electorate.

Ill be over here waiting for somebody to get shot for their own health and well being.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (nw6Hr)

569 The reason I have trouble with a quickie divorce is that CA, the state as well as some of her most prominent residents in Hollywood, Silicon Valley, in Congress, have been ringleaders in harassing the hell out of other states for things like SSM, bathroom, and abortion laws. Memories Pizza, for example. They've felt quite comfortable telling us to submit to their values, stomping all over the concept of federalism.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (bDqIh)

570
I keep hearing from lefties that California is the 5th largest economy in the world.

They don't have a clue on how fast that would drop if California was force to rely solely on it's own.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (t6XCL)

571
Trump to Newsom: "See your state and (*tosses chips*) raise you a territorial status."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (mht8P)

572 "At some point this civil war by other means, with the goal of enshrining GOP minority rule, will provoke a Democratic counteroffensive...."

What GOP minority rule is Bloomberg talking about? I didn't read the article, but the GOP has 2 out of the three legislative branches, as well as the majority of SCOTUS seats and gubernatorial offices.

What am I missing here?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (iuFgi)

573 >>>I'm in California and I would approve a Calexit frankly. I want out of this state, for numerous reasons. The only reason I stay is because I'm too reliant on stubborn family who refuses to even consider going elsewhere.


The second I retire, I'm leaving PA and the East Coast entirely. Closest state to the East Coast I will tolerate is Tennessee. If my family comes along, swell. If not, oh well.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (bkUtD)

574 California government has been boycotting my state for years anyway. We're not woke enough for them. Don't miss them at all.

Leave. Don't just talk about it. Do it! Do it!

Posted by: Case at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (oJ76I)

575 The Civil War was almost 100 years in the making. 

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2020 04:54 PM (C0xFb)

Yup. And slavery bullshit aside, Americans there were much more homogeneous on race and religion than they are now.

You don't have to want a war to see the enemy mobilizing. The enemy is destroying America, right now. I was surprised when upstaters didn't fire on Manhattanites stealing their ventilators. The war will start when fingers tighten on guns.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (AjgVK)

576 >>>554 Yeah, this is bullshit. We are not going to put up with Sinofornia. No. Fucking.Way.

people who want to continue controlling their wife want to remain married to their wife

people who are worrying about who wifey will date post-divorce want to "save the relationship"

I don't. I don't care who this whore fucks.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (PbpT7)

577 I can't wait for wealthy Californians who brag about their universal healthcare while flying to Miami or Minneapolis for surgeries they don't have to be on a waiting list for...

Posted by: kbdabear at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (qAR6u)

578 570


I keep hearing from lefties that California is the 5th largest economy in the world.



They don't have a clue on how fast that would drop if California was force to rely solely on it's own.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 09, 2020 05:03 PM (t6XCL)
Sure would suck if something happened to all that electric power generated from other states disappeared, not to mention the water.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (N39Ws)

579 One bag of jelly beans, one bag of chocolate eggs, a tube of Shoe Goo (for me), and several miscellaneous items later, we flee to the checkout and at last emerge, poorer but triumphant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 09, 2020 04:53 PM (rpbg1)
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Oh my gosh, I went to Target today too and bought all of those things as well (yep, even the Shoe Goo, for my son) but I bought way more than one bag of chocolates. I had to replace all the Easter candy that has mysteriously evaporated from my stash over the last couple of weeks.

Posted by: bluebell at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (/669Q)

580
What am I missing here?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (iuFgi)
The delusional drugs the writer of that statement was on.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (e284m)

581 570 China will pick up that tab in a heartbeat. Guys, this is kinda serious stuff.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (L6lkG)

582 I'm a 4th generation Californian, which is a rarity.

I live north of San Diego; I've never lived more than a mile from the beach.
The weather is perfect.
The waves are great, if crowded.
This is the most beautiful state in the country with resources almost any country craves.

Yet Democrats have managed to gang rape CA almost to the point of murder AND THEY'LL DO THE SAME TO YOUR STATE.
The problem isn't California.

Posted by: democrats exist to steal kill & destroy at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (l9Soe)

583 The reason why national divorce won't work is because these people aren't content to either let us go, or leave without us.

They have deemed themselves rulers, and us peasants, and they will have it no other way.

We will never get them to leave us alone in peace.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (O4K4J)

584 Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Newsom!

Posted by: Der Fuhrer! at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (I2/tG)

585 234 56 Beating California in a civil war would take all of fifteen minutes. Just close the aqueduct on the Colorado River and watch how that turns out. Thirsty hippies.
Posted by: Orson at April 09, 2020 04:14 PM (RAz50)

In addition, cut all the long distance power transmission lines at the state border. Also, take out the transmission lines to the 10 biggest instate power generators. The power grid collapses immediately, the State collapses in about a week.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2020 04:28 PM (trdmm)


Cut their supply of coconut water.

Most in big cities will fold in days.

No need to be more harsh than needed.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (sy5kK)

586 I've had a similar fantasy plan since 2008 where the country was divided by red states / blue states with some minor border adjustments to allow access to the Pacific and continuity of each Country. Mine was a ten year plan to allow the transfer of citizens and businesses to the country of their choice. My own business plan was to create a company to broker transfer deals between properties/ homes.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (2DOZq)

587 Kill their leaders, take away their voting rights and occupy them. Expropriate them, start with Gates

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (ONvIw)

588 https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
5pm EDT
PDT
running late

Posted by: m at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (Y3R0d)

589 Nancy Pelosi is on CSPAN, she sounds little more cogent than Biden.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (W54U5)

590 I can see the price for imported water in California doubling in short order. Electricity too.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (Hcsoi)

591 "what i'm hearing is "I really want to stay in this toxic relationship forever"

No - what I am saying is, those that want a separate state must be driven out and defeated.

Posted by: CoolHand Luke at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (U2+zT)

592 No, no, no, he doesn't want us to carry a certificate. He wants us all to get chipped like dogs and have a digital certificate.

Yeah. No.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 09, 2020 04:57 PM (mf5HN)
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I have long said that implanting electronics - except for maybe a pacemaker - is a rubicon I will not cross. Nope. I'll be a second-class citizen long before I'll get chipped.

Fuck these panopticists sideways with a chainsaw.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 04:58 PM (hYcqw)


If they want to do this, start with criminals. Watch the ACLU howl.

Same thing with gun control. They want to confiscate guns? Start in the ghetto, where the gun violence problem is endemic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 05:06 PM (GArKj)

593 >>>people who are worrying about who wifey will date post-divorce want to "save the relationship"

I don't. I don't care who this whore fucks.



While we're at it, can we deport the leftists and the NeverTrumpers? They'll LOVE California. They can change it to their socialist Utopia.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (bkUtD)

594 Somebody is going to have to prove to me that the federal government is not providing. Now they are just making shit up again.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (JCrfD)

595 China will pick up that tab in a heartbeat. Guys, this is kinda serious stuff.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (L6lkG)
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China can't afford CA's debts. CA has more debt than China has US Treasury holdings.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (hYcqw)

596 lol bluebell.. I keep sneaking into my kids Easter baskets! Oh and thanks girl for the nice review

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (dUJdY)

597 If there's such a thing as eeevil "cultural appropriation" then how do you justify a purposeful, multi-generational government policy to purposefully inundate a country with foreign nationals to the point of extinguishing the native culture?

Either culture matters or it doesn't.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (lcQJG)

598 >>No, no, no, he doesn't want us to carry a certificate. He wants us all to get chipped like dogs and have a digital certificate.

Yeah. No.
- - -

The Hell?!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (bDqIh)

599
I keep hearing Newsome is not that popular in California.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 09, 2020 05:08 PM (t6XCL)

600 New motto of the nation of California: Nosotros no hablamos ingles.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM



Dang. And I thought sure it would be Presso numero Uno por Espanola.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2020 05:08 PM (axyOa)

601 Military bases are federal property.

Ok....so how do we anex the port of San Diego when there's almost no demarcation between the Navel Facilities, Civilian Docks and most of the military personel and their families actually LIVE off base in the city?

It's not like there's an easy Black and White line where we can call the division "Main St." and both sides walk away happy.

Posted by: MrObvious at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (5prN7)


As The Humongous of the Southern Arizona Wastelands, I will drive with my ravening puppies from the Colorado River all the way to the sea. All I survey will be mine.

I will set up my assless chaps franchises from there on north. (Free colander mask with purchase!)

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with MOAR TP) at April 09, 2020 05:08 PM (N3El/)

602 What am I missing here?

Trump is illegitimate, because even though he won the popular vote in the other 49 states, California voted against him by a huge margin.

California gets a veto on who gets to be President, you see.

Posted by: California! at April 09, 2020 05:08 PM (I2/tG)

603 Can a man with a revolver ever have too many speedloaders?

Posted by: Fritz Plissken at April 09, 2020 05:08 PM (95j/9)

604 Please, bring on the insurrection act. Then we can get our state back from these corrupt fuckers like newsome & his aunt nancy pelosi(yes really she's his aunt) and the illegal alien hordes that help with the voter fraud shenanigans. not to mention plain old crime. can't wait to say hasta la bye bye fucktard marxists. Please bring it on, the sooner the better,

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (zymv2)

605 >>>583 The reason why national divorce won't work is because these people aren't content to either let us go, or leave without us.

They have deemed themselves rulers, and us peasants, and they will have it no other way.

We will never get them to leave us alone in peace.

...

Well Trump winning big is kind of the key to my plan.

Trump wins, Ginsburg dies.. the left begs us to leave.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (PbpT7)

606 And take your SCOTUS justices with you.

If NY and CA both leave, then we can replace all of these justices:
* Roberts (Buffalo, NY)
* Ginsburg (Brooklyn, NY)
* Breyer (San Francisco, CA)
* Sotomayor (The Bronx, NY)
* Kagan (Manhattan, NY)

Is there any downside here?

Posted by: A Tabby Cat at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (dJs6r)

607 People are not eating that much more food ... (a little since they are eating at home more) ... so once all their storage space is full, trucks can start catching up on toilet paper I guess ... and the people that have a closet full won't need to buy it for 3 years, so there will soon be the great toilet paper glut ... ha
Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2020


*
*

A Dollar Tree I visited this morning in the same parking lot as a Target had lots of TP and paper towels. Limit of 4 units per guest, but a TP unit is 4 rolls. Seems to me 16 rolls is plenty for one visit.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (rpbg1)

608
==========

That Cruz/Bush rivalry is stupid but real.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 09, 2020 04:33 PM (zZbCU)


He infringes on their primacy.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (W54U5)

609 You should check your hearing, ace. The land of California is simply too valuable to turn over to a bunch of idiots because they say they don't like current political arrangements. That's not how it works.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (ja/kn)

610 The problem isn't California.
Posted by: democrats exist to steal kill & destroy at April 09, 2020 05:05 PM (l9Soe)

Not the land of CA, but the people who pull this shit. If they secede, they have to be destroyed and defeated utterly, and not like Iraq or Afghanistan. Like a I said, A march to the sea, and expropriation, an army of occupation. Then break it in two

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (ONvIw)

611 but that whore will be fucking her new Chinese pimp, the one who's publicly expressed his desire to overwhelm you, on your front porch, not across the lake. I'm fine, in theory, with her moving in with him, not so much with him taking up residence under my roof

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (87EdW)

612 Military bases are federal property.

Ok....so how do we anex the port of San Diego when there's almost no demarcation between the Navel Facilities, Civilian Docks and most of the military personel and their families actually LIVE off base in the city?

It's not like there's an easy Black and White line where we can call the division "Main St." and both sides walk away happy.

Posted by: MrObvious at April 09, 2020 04:48 PM (5prN7)


Easy. We split it horizontally. We get the part above ground.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (GArKj)

613 I made some chocolate candy. Anything going on?

Posted by: azalea cuty at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (WX+x0)

614 I'm with ace on this, in that we need a workable plan to make Calexit a reality.

Yes, I'm furiously angry too at the leftists who have destroyed California. But talking about all the horrible things we'd like to do to its leaders won't get us there. If anything, it'll make California leaders say they want to stay, just so they can fcuk with us lots more.

Once California is officially a whole different country, we can enjoy watching its leaders and residents turn everything they are and everything they have to utter shit. But until then, and unfortunately, we have to temper our expectations. I know it's hard. I'm sick of our side always having to be the ones to behave better, too. But that's how it is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (L2ZTs)

615 Nood

Posted by: Tonypete at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (Y4EXg)

616 And Kurt Schlichter is looking more and more like a prophet. Enjoy your responsible coffee.

Posted by: mikethemoose at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (Y6UV7)

617 I can see the price for imported water in California doubling in short order. Electricity too.

The Federal government limits the price that other states can charge for selling electricity to California.

Good luck if that changes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (I2/tG)

618 >>>While we're at it, can we deport the leftists and the NeverTrumpers? They'll LOVE California. They can change it to their socialist Utopia.


you fail to appreciate the genius of my plan. People will self-deport, as the Cuck Romney said.

Which America do you think the illegals, for example, will be flocking to en masse?

You don't have to deport these people. THE THOUGHT OF LIVING UNDER YOUR DEPLORABLE BIBLE-THUMPING RETHUGLIKKKAN CONTROL WILL SEND THEM FLYING.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (PbpT7)

619 lol bluebell.. I keep sneaking into my kids Easter baskets! Oh and thanks girl for the nice review
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 09, 2020 05:07 PM (dUJdY)
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My pleasure! I meant every word. I love those bracelets.

Posted by: bluebell at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (/669Q)

620 604 Please, bring on the insurrection act. Then we can get our state back from these corrupt fuckers like newsome & his aunt nancy pelosi(yes really she's his aunt) and the illegal alien hordes that help with the voter fraud shenanigans. not to mention plain old crime. can't wait to say hasta la bye bye fucktard marxists. Please bring it on, the sooner the better,
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (zymv2)

Yes, arrest Newsom today

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:10 PM (ONvIw)

621 Hostel California..you can check in if your from below the border but citizens can't check out........................... before they hit you for an EXIT-TAX...COCK_A ROACHES ?

Posted by: saf at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (5IHGB)

622 Trump to Newsom: "See your state and (*tosses chips*) raise you a territorial status."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 05:04 PM (mht8P)

This brings up a point...you could let them go, then pick a fight, invade and make them a conquered territory much like Puerto Rico and the Philippines were. Then you could have you deep water port, the occupying army could enslave all those Hollywood starlets for their own entertainment, and the territorial Governor would be hand picked by Trump - Winning!

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (32YRo)

623 >>>Yes, I'm furiously angry too at the leftists who have destroyed California.

one day we may have our Revanche

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (PbpT7)

624
China can't afford CA's debts. CA has more debt than China has US Treasury holdings.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Newsom says they have a surplus and are rolling in dough.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (aKsyK)

625 heh - you just witnessed first hand what happens when the panics start, and the supply lines can't keep up.

Now, imagine that they can't get the supply line going again after the panic.

They'd start with totalitarian acquisitions that would demonstrate the last three months we've gone through were just Totalitarian Kindergarten.

And suddenly the people would stop putting up with it. I don't care how liberal you are, when your bread runs out, you're going to get protective and nasty to keep your family fed and all your liberal, coexist, social justice warrior shit is going out the window.

The problem is they have the wealth, and time, to waste their lives worrying about, and inflicting on others, liberal commie dream bullshit.

That will all go out the window when the lights don't turn on, the water doesn't flow, and there's no food in the cupboard.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (e284m)

626 I keep waiting for the unemployed from this to throw a massive stink with their governors. Also, wondering why it has happened yet.

Is this the reason why? Text from my brother today. His 26 year old bartender son filed for UI. Will receive $850 a week ($250 state, $600 Fed). He barely made $1200 a month at his job. Now he's getting $3400/mo?!! I doubt you'll hear any complaints from him about the shutdown.

SMH

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (66UcN)

627 >>>You don't have to deport these people. THE THOUGHT OF LIVING UNDER YOUR DEPLORABLE BIBLE-THUMPING RETHUGLIKKKAN CONTROL WILL SEND THEM FLYING.


Wow, you're right. No leftist wants to be seen near people who cling to their Bibles and guns.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (bkUtD)

628 Five years?

F--- that! 90 days to decide and publicly commit, and the rest of the year to settle your affairs.

And every county in the state gets to decide Yea or Nay.

Posted by: rd at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (+0uDE)

629 One really imagines that "Gavin Newsom" is the skin-suit Satan wears when he visits Earth.
Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2020 04:29 PM (N9G0H)


Thread winner.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (sy5kK)

630 Not the land of CA, but the people who pull this shit. If they secede, they have to be destroyed and defeated utterly, and not like Iraq or Afghanistan. Like a I said, A march to the sea, and expropriation, an army of occupation. Then break it in two
Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (ONvIw)


Can't we just send them back to the Northeast and upper Midwest? Because that's where most of the liberals came here from.

See, e.g., Scott Wiener, fruit extraordinaire, who is driving a LOT of the really nutso stuff in SF (e.g., the high density housing near transit centers). To which he moved - three years ago - from Philadelphia.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (GArKj)

631 Well Trump winning big is kind of the key to my plan.

Trump wins, Ginsburg dies.. the left begs us to leave.

Posted by: ace at April 09, 2020 05:09 PM (PbpT7)

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Trump wins.
Dems lose the House.
Ginsberg passes.

They wont beg us to leave. Thats when the left will lose their everloving shit and do REALLY stupid things threshold.

They will destroy themselves.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (nw6Hr)

632 628: No. Destroy the rebels

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (ONvIw)

633 It was about a week or so ago that Newsom was on PMSDNC or the like and was actually praising Trump and the Feds for the help they had provided Mexifornia in fighting the China virus, even at the urging of the host for him to say the opposite.

Wonder what's changed....

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at April 09, 2020 05:13 PM (p0pYQ)

634
The highest income tax bracket for California is 13.3% for people making over a million dollars.
Imagine how high income taxes would have to be raised along with other taxes in order to pay for al the free shit.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 09, 2020 05:13 PM (t6XCL)

635 Nanzi is making a country of socalists with this money for nothing scam

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2020 05:14 PM (ZCEU2)

636

Gee, ya think mebbe, just mebbe, ol' Gavin is eye deep in the corruption, maybe even the human sex trafficking ( Ca is a hotbed for it), and sees the train coming straight at him?

Ya never know till ya know.

Posted by: teej at April 09, 2020 05:14 PM (LSB34)

637 And suddenly the people would stop putting up with it. I don't care how liberal you are, when your bread runs out, you're going to get protective and nasty to keep your family fed and all your liberal, coexist, social justice warrior shit is going out the window.

Yep. See, e.g., the EU vs. Italy.

High-flown rhetoric went over the side when the SHTF. Now it's every country for itself.

Yet another instance of reality batting last.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 05:14 PM (GArKj)

638 Can't we just send them back to the Northeast and upper Midwest? Because that's where most of the liberals came here from.

See, e.g., Scott Wiener, fruit extraordinaire, who is driving a LOT of the really nutso stuff in SF (e.g., the high density housing near transit centers). To which he moved - three years ago - from Philadelphia.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 05:12 PM (GArKj)

Nah, kill and expropriate. They've pulled this shit too much. And to the winner goes the spoils, skalliwag Guevara

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:14 PM (ONvIw)

639 633
It was about a week or so ago that Newsom was on PMSDNC or the like and
was actually praising Trump and the Feds for the help they had provided
Mexifornia in fighting the China virus, even at the urging of the host
for him to say the opposite.

Wonder what's changed....


Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at April 09, 2020 05:13 PM (p0pYQ)
The panic party Newsom was enjoying courtesy of the plague. That's coming to an end and he has to go back to business as usual after having flucked the hell out of the economic chicken for the last couple months.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 05:14 PM (e284m)

640 Nanzi is making a country of socalists with this money for nothing scam
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2020 05:14 PM (ZCEU2)

----

Sounds like dire straights.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2020 05:15 PM (nw6Hr)

641 Prager often totals up California taxes, isn't it like 50 % total?

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2020 05:15 PM (ZCEU2)

642 Newsom is still praising Trump! These media outlets are just making shit up. And Newsom just takes calls from hotels and airlines and businesses who offer to help but he doesn't actually go out proactively like Trump. Like airlines today volunteered to fly medical volunteers anywhere to go help. Newsom said yes. Big effing deal. It wasn't his idea.

Posted by: PJ at April 09, 2020 05:15 PM (qlTN9)

643 >>They wont beg us to leave. Thats when the left will lose their everloving shit and do REALLY stupid things threshold.

Meh. They're babies. They won't retaliate. They'll want to take their socialist ball and go home - let them go...let them go!

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 05:16 PM (32YRo)

644 633 It was about a week or so ago that Newsom was on PMSDNC or the like and was actually praising Trump and the Feds for the help they had provided Mexifornia in fighting the China virus, even at the urging of the host for him to say the opposite.

Wonder what's changed....
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at April 09, 2020 05:13 PM (p0pYQ)


IIRC, he wasn't on PMSNBC, he was at a news conference. This latest excretion took place while he was on PMNSBC. Bottom line: he knew his audience.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 09, 2020 05:16 PM (GArKj)

645
Nobody secedes. This is bullshit. Keep them on the correct legal track at gunpoint.

Nature abhors a vacuum. If California seceded, the state would be a Chinese colony/invasion beachhead in about 5 minutes. The whole country is already semi-invaded, and this surrender would finish us off.

I wish people would stop saying to let states go. It's national suicide.


We give up nothing. Not the tiniest godforsaken rock off our coast.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2020 05:16 PM (5VxYJ)

646 I think what we are missing here is if they secede there are certain politicians we never have to see again.

Posted by: Mog Smash at April 09, 2020 05:16 PM (CgFRV)

647
China can't afford CA's debts. CA has more debt than China has US Treasury holdings.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Newsom says they have a surplus and are rolling in dough.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2020 05:11 PM (aKsyK)

---------

Minnesota had a projected $1.5 Billion Dollar PROJECTED Surplus. Even the Donk Governor said the surplus was GONE, poof, disappeared due to the Chinese Coronavirus Plague.

California will be crying about being busted flat and dead broke in 60 days.

Posted by: rd at April 09, 2020 05:17 PM (+0uDE)

648 Yo Gav...Later dude.

Posted by: James at April 09, 2020 05:17 PM (qM84C)

649 >>If California seceded, the state would be a Chinese colony/invasion beachhead in about 5 minutes. The whole country is already semi-invaded, and this surrender would finish us off.

Again, make them sign a status of forces agreement and mutual ally treaty as condition for succession...they violate those...invasion, baby!

Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 05:18 PM (32YRo)

650 California will be crying about being busted flat and dead broke in 60 days.

Posted by: rd at April 09, 2020 05:17 PM (+0uDE)
While reminding all of us they believe they pay more than the get back in Federal spending.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 09, 2020 05:18 PM (e284m)

651 New motto of the nation of California: Nosotros no hablamos ingles.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 09, 2020 04:59 PM

Dang. And I thought sure it would be Presso numero Uno por Espanola.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 09, 2020 05:08 PM (axyOa)
..........

Llantera y Mofles Aqui

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2020 05:20 PM (v0R5T)

652 "bulk purchasing power of California "as a nation-state" to acquire the hospital supplies that the federal government has failed to provide."

What do they need that they don't have? Um. Hey retards in California, this is exactly what the feds have been encouraging you to do. Don't wait for the Feds, start planning to fill your own needs.

It was and is not the federal governments job to provide each state with everything they need. As trump has said, repeatedly, they are the back up plan. Each state is expected to be plan A, with the feds as plan B. Ergo, if you are failing (as California seems to be admitting) then California is failing, not the federal government. So you are basically saying, as governor, you are a useless piece of shit.

Imagine an army where no one could do anything without authorization from the commander. From shining their shoes to pulling the trigger. Armies like that have been obliterated in combat.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at April 09, 2020 05:21 PM (+DS2f)

653
Newsom needs some attention with a little leather bag filled with shot. Spoiled pretty boy communist seriously needs to be tuned up. None of the world out here where we live is real to him. This would make it teal. He literally kills people with his whimsy and virtue signalling.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2020 05:21 PM (5VxYJ)

654
Can't we just break off a YUGE portion of the Antarctic Ice Shelf, and-

load the population of California aboard and set them afloat to their fate like old Eskimos?



Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2020 05:22 PM (z0XD8)

655 Again, make them sign a status of forces agreement and mutual ally treaty as condition for succession...they violate those...invasion, baby!
Posted by: Boswell at April 09, 2020 05:18 PM (32YRo)

Skip the treaties, take them over before China does

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2020 05:27 PM (ONvIw)

656 "Gavin Useless, how many divisions does he have?"

Posted by: Josef Stalin at April 09, 2020 05:31 PM (cTuj5)

657 If I were Trump, the first thing I would do is have the USNS Mercy immediately set sail out of the Port of LA and send it somewhere else.

Posted by: Dave at April 09, 2020 05:36 PM (0hWr4)

658 Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: One More Zap Rowsdower for the Road at April 09, 2020 05:39 PM (cUpB1)

659 https://bit.ly/2JSYNYL
********

Former Flynn Defense Counsel Covington and Burling 'just now found additional docs' In Flynn File - Sara A. Carter

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 09, 2020 05:40 PM (jiiF1)

660 Newsom isn't that popular in California, you should see his numbers in Wyoming...............

Posted by: saf at April 09, 2020 05:49 PM (5IHGB)

661 I'm sure Mexico would pay good money for California.

"La Compra de California de 2020"

Posted by: pawn at April 09, 2020 06:08 PM (PveK5)

662 As soon as we agree to separate Cali, invoke a new Monroe Doctrine and attack. Subjugate all of the Commies and expel them from the new Free California re-united with the USA.

Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at April 09, 2020 06:15 PM (cJqki)

663 I kind of miss the days watching cruise missiles going into chimney's and windows.
We have a task force off of Kali in case the political leaders cannot come to their senses and cease their insurrection?

Posted by: Drider at April 09, 2020 06:19 PM (R/UH9)

664 >But you got five years to decide, and then we build that Big Beautiful Wall.

Just wait a few years beyond that. We won't need a wall to keep people out; they'll need a wall to keep people in.

Posted by: Scott at April 09, 2020 06:34 PM (kmvkg)

665 Hey California:
Don't let the San Andreas fault hit you in the ass on the way out.

Posted by: me at April 09, 2020 06:42 PM (iPlBp)

666 I agree in general but I think there needs to be some geographic continuity. Real America should be the center of the nation with the eastern border being WV, western PA, western VA, NC, and SC. All of Georgia and FL. The western border should be from east of Denver (I'm from CO but I live in Indiana now - the plains HATE the libs in Denver and Boulder), include all of Wyoming except Jackson's Hole, eastern MT, and then down south through eastern NM. Let the libs have Utah - enjoy the Mormons y'all - and the coasts. Real America will have the oil, coal, and natural gas, ocean access, and more than enough armed citizens.

Love the idea. Just bring it. And then build the damn wall on all 4 sides.

Posted by: Mookie at April 09, 2020 07:07 PM (3vIkC)

667 What I admire most about Califoria is how quickly it will fall when its water (vulnerable to air attack) and four ports (Sand Diego, ports around L.A., Port Hueneme, San Francisco Bay entrance, all vulnerable to mines) are made unavailable.

Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 09, 2020 07:56 PM (cZQ2c)

668 "San Diego"

Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 09, 2020 07:57 PM (cZQ2c)

669 Dead thread but I don't care...

F*ck California.

5 years?! Screw that--- give 'em 90 days to apply for citizenship, then they get to wait for results of their "review". If approved, they get another 90 days to get their asses over the line.

Not sorry. My give-a-damn is broken.

Posted by: JQ at April 09, 2020 08:45 PM (whOIk)

670 So when they attempt to secede and we have to go all Grant and Sherman on their asses, who want's to join me in reenacting Sherman's March to the Sea? Sacramento can substitute for Atlanta, we can rip up the high speed rail tracks (Newsome's Neckties sounds catchy), turn south and lay waste to Malibu.Bring marshmallows, we'll make S'mores.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at April 09, 2020 11:52 PM (SqpTW)

671 I'm sporting a chubby thinking about the coming Reconstruction, neo-carpetbaggers and a modern Sherman's March.

Posted by: rechill at April 10, 2020 07:12 AM (lYLWl)

672 I'll all for it, Ace.

Why did I move to the fricking NE anyway? I know. It was for of the kids/grandkids. Thousands of dollars down the crapper for that one.
Live free or die--and not in New Hampshire anymore!

Posted by: Kurtz at April 10, 2020 08:23 AM (0YZ6P)

673 Yep Newsome is all Nation state until the next Mudslide, earthquake, wild fire then he is begging the Feds to bail him out.But, Yes, if they want to leave let them go.Good riddance.I personally am not a United Statsian, I own my loyalty to the state I was born in and live in.My state is one star of fifty it is my Nation.

Posted by: obsidian at April 10, 2020 11:37 AM (7+yqP)

674 For bargaining purposes we could squawk a lot about needing port cities and how they'd be able to negotiate for water and access to forests using their ports. After the breakup we would then turn out to be way more interested in rebuilding our manufacturing base. Then we'd be in a ' F you ' bargaining position after secession.

Posted by: jo blo at April 10, 2020 02:24 PM (gaoPp)

675 We have to remember that anyone succeeding with California needs to also completely renounce their US citizenship, as we can't have them interfering with our country.

Posted by: Rbastid at April 10, 2020 11:57 PM (k78Ze)

676 Long time lurker, first time commenting.

I could be wrong, but California could just be reiterating what Trump told them, but putting it in a light that saves their face.

They ARE a Nation-State (we've got 50 of them in this Republic), and the Fed flatly refused to give it's stockpiles to New York and California exclusively. They are there to be deployed to places where things REALLY do get out of control, and by Fed estimation, that hasn't happened yet. He specifically told them (if you remember this fake scandal) that it would be better and more direct if they could source the equipment themselves, but that the Fed would be ready to help. I mean, that's just how it's done in a Republic. It's just lame that first they begged for help, then tried to sound badass about finding it themselves after getting told no.

Posted by: Mighty Quinn Mallory at April 11, 2020 02:09 AM (tPuMl)

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