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Sunday Morning Book Thread 12-15-2019
Rosezella Battles Library, The King's College, New York City
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), old men, old ladies, old drunks, old goats, old poops, old geezers and geezettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which, admittedly, are probably Photoshopped, but that's not going to stop me from laughing at him.
Pic Note: The King's College is a small Christian college in New York City. The library is appropriately modest:
The collection has roughly 16,000 volumes divided into two sections: Main Holdings and Reference. All of the volumes are related to our majors and all courses taught and represent a wide variety of subject areas. Students may borrow books in the Main Holdings, and may freely use in the library books in our Reference collection.Now whoda thunk that there would be a Christian College in New York City? It's located in the financial district, not far from Wall Street. Talk about living in the belly of the beast.
It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®
The word OSTRACIZE comes from ‘ostrakon’, a Greek word for a shard of pottery. In Ancient Athens, a vote was held each year in which names could be written on these potshards and cast into a vase. Whoever received the most votes would be banished from the city for up to a decade. pic.twitter.com/BNHk5ltlIw
— Haggard Hawks 📚🦅 (@HaggardHawks) December 12, 2019
"I guess cancel culture is not a
new thing."
Santa Claus: The Gritty Reboot Well, actually, I don't know how 'gritty' they are, but a number of authors have reworked the traditional Christmas stories. The first is Tony Bertauski's Claus series, the first of which is Claus: Legend of the Fat Man:
In the early 1800s, Nicholas Santa discovered an ancient race of elven.In subsequent books, the stories of Jack Frost, Frosty the Snowman, and Ebenezer Scrooge get reworked. All of these adbventures are availble in two collections, Claus Boxed: A Science Fiction Holiday Adventure and Claus Boxed 2: A Science Fiction Holiday Adventure In Santa Claus: The King of the Elves, author B.C. Chase sends Santa on an epic adventure:
Short, fat and hairy, they have lived peacefully on the North Pole since the Ice Age but Nicholas is quickly swept into the colony’s first and only fracture. The elven known as the Cold One has divided his people. His name is Jack. And Jack’s tired of hiding. Why should they live in a shrinking ice cap when humans occupy the rest of the world?
It’s just not fair.
There’s no stopping Jack from world domination until Nicholas Santa, the only human to enter the elven colony, joins helium-bladder reindeer, artificially-intelligent snowmen, and a merry band of big-footed elven to bring peace back to the North Pole.
And becomes a legend.
When Santa's true love, Linnea, is kidnapped, he and his loyal High Elf friends embark on an enthralling journey across the perilous lands of Euchaia in a desperate bid to bring her safely home, little realizing that much more is at stake than Linnea's life. By the end, the very survival of all High Elves is in jeopardy and Santa must make a fateful choice between his love for her and the destiny of the elves.
In this spellbinding adventure, internationally bestselling author B.C.CHASE taps the furthest reaches of his mesmerizing imagination to weave a suspenseful tale featuring seafaring dwarves, fiery dragons, cultured goblins, and flying elves that culminates in a battle of epic proportions.
Claus: The Untold Story of Kris Kringle is basically a biography of Santa Claus, that
tells the exciting, and unknown story of the man who embodies the Christmas spirit. In the pages of this book you will follow Kris's life as an infant, born to a royal family just as they were deposed, to his life as a young man venturing out into a larger world than he ever imagined. A world ruled by the sadistic governor who killed his family. A world where toys are illegal and where only Kris can bring joy to the children. All of this, set in a world overshadowed by a mysterious warlock who threatens death to any and all who trespass in the shadow of his mountain.I like the blurb for Saint Nick: A Santa Claus Action Thriller, which sounds kind of like one of those cheesy action movie trailers from the 80s:
In this book you will learn how Kris managed to navigate all of these obstacles and emerge, changing the world in which we all live.
This Christmas, Santa Claus is still coming to town, but this time he's bringing a fat sack of justice with him.Oh, yeah:
Army Ranger Nick Campos was never meant to be Santa Claus. He knows nothing about kids, he certainly isn't jolly, and he hasn't eaten a cookie in over a decade. But as Santa is dying of a heart attack, whether Nick wants them or not, Santa bestows his abilities upon him, and changes Nick's life forever.Saint Nick is passing out presents and kicking ass, but this year, he's all out of presents. Of course, we know that Santa Claus was bssed on a real guy, St. Nicholas, an early saint of the undivided church, who was a bit of an action hero himself. He allegedly confronted the arch-heretic Arius at the Ecumenical Council of Nicaea in 325 and popped him right in the puss. We know this true because they caught it on video. He wound up in jail for doing this, but he made his point. You can read about his life in The Gospel of Santa Claus by Wayne Van Der Wal, which
A year later, Nick has found a way to use the abilities Santa passed along in a way that only a hardass Army Ranger could. To fight the bad guys. And he plans to bring new meaning to the classic line "he knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake."
However, there is one terrorist in particular that pops up on the radar that Nick is all too familiar with. Because he's the monster that killed Nick's closest friend a few years back. Can Nick use his newfound tools to stop an old enemy's plot to kill more innocent people? Or will Nick--the world's best new weapon in the fight against terror--fail to deliver against an evil that is much more prepared for him than Nick could have ever imagined?
...follows the incredible story of Saint Nicholas, born in third century A.D., who overcomes childhood tragedy, feels called by God to take a vow of poverty, endures horrific persecution for his religious faith, and goes on to become one of the most beloved, generous, loving, and famous figures in human history. A meaningful, touching story to be shared with the entire family, Wayne Van Der Wal’s powerful debut historical novel will raise important questions, ignite hope, and reaffirm your faith in God and the human spirit.The Kindle version is priced at a reasonable $4.99. Late entry: A lurking moron, "Mortimer Bleak", has just published a small book of Christmas-themed poetry, Christmas Miracle: A Collection of Poems. The cover art is a good indication of the contents. Finally I'm sure you've all have read, or at least heard of, The Gift of the Magi, the classic Christmas story by O. Henry. Well, now you can read a sequel by 'ette author Libby Malin entitled, appropriately enough, The Gift of the Magi Part Deux.
The Rise of Sorhed From 'Bored of the Rings'
“My spies tell me of black musters gathering in the East, in the dead Lands of Fordor. Hordes of foul narcs and trolls have multiplied and every day red-eyed wraiths skulk even unto the borders of the Sty. Soon there will be much terror in the land from the black hand of Sorhed.”
“Sorhed!” cried Frito. “But Sorhed is no more.”
“Don’t believe everything you hear from the heralds,” said Dildo gravely. “It had been thought that Sorhed was forever destroyed at the Battle of Brylopad, but it appears this was just wishful thinking. Actually he and his Nine Nozdrul slipped out of the mopping-up cleverly disguised as a troupe of gypsy acrobatic dancers. Escaping through the Ngaio Marsh, they pushed their way into the suburbs of Fordor, where...they have been renewing their strength ever since.”
“His Dark Carbuncle of Doom has swollen and soon will come to a head, covering the face of Lower Middle Earth with his ill humors. If we are to survive, the boil must be soundly lanced before Sorhed begins his own loathsome squeeze play.”
They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:
"These aliens aren't so tough."
(h/t Pulp Librarian)
Moron Recommendations A lurking moron recommended The Chain by Adrian McKinty:
"Hello."That plot sounds completely diabolical. Adrian McKinty is a long time author of many mystery fiction novels And while looking at McKinty's book, I also discovered this collection of stories that he edited, called Belfast Noir:
"Rachel, I've kidnapped your daughter, Kylie. In order to get her back alive, you will pay a ransom of $25,000, and you will need to kidnap another child. If you contact the police, or otherwise notify any authority, I will kill Kylie. I will contact you again soon with further instructions.
"My son has been kidnapped and he will be killed unless you follow these and any further instructions to the letter. If my son dies, Kylie will die."
Paraphrased, this begins an interesting novel of terror and criminal plotting by a suburban housewife. The book is "The Chain" by Adrian McKinty. It follows Rachel through her denial, acceptance and follow through as she tries to keep the abduction from Kylie's school and her family.
Rachel learns that the kidnapping is in a sequence of abductions supported by a group that is known only as The Chain. Rachel is forced to select a kidnap victim, find a hideaway, and somehow collect enough money to pay the ransom, all within a short span of time.
During the decades of the Troubles, Belfast was plagued with riots, bombings, and other violence, and armored vehicles patrolled the streets—a daily darkness that is reflected in the personality of the city. New York Times–bestselling author Lee Child calls it “the most noir place on earth.”Sounds like something you'd want to read when you're inside on a cold, gray, rainy day. ___________
This collection of short stories in the “acclaimed noir series” provides not only a compelling read for fans of mystery and suspense and an opportunity to discover some new must-read authors, but a portrait of the moody, murderous history of Belfast (Publishers Weekly).
Featuring brand-new stories by Glenn Patterson, Eoin McNamee, Garbhan Downey, Lee Child, Alex Barclay, Brian McGilloway, Ian McDonald, Arlene Hunt, Ruth Dudley Edwards, Claire McGowan, Steve Cavanagh, Lucy Caldwell, Sam Millar, and Gerard Brennan.
291 I'll pimp for Steven Pressfield again.OK, I accept the implicit Pressfield challenge here: I did a search for Pressfield in the Kindle store and the first book I was presented with was 36 Righteous Men: A Novel. Let's take a look at it:
Everything he's written is a page turner.
Posted by: Easy Andy at December 01, 2019 11:56 AM (2DOZq)
When James Manning and Covina “Dewey” Duwai are called in to investigate a string of murders, their investigations take them from the headquarters of the Russian mafia in Brighton Beach to a sweltering maze of shops in Little Hong Kong, with scant leads on the killer. But when Manning and Dewey apprehend a woman—a disgraced but brilliant rabbinical scholar—fleeing one of the crime scenes, they’re brought face-to-face with the shocking truth: the Jewish legend of the hidden Righteous Men, the 36 who protect the world from destruction, is no legend at all. They are real, and they are being murdered.OK, that *does* sound like a book I'd like to read. However, for $12.99, I may wait to see if I can catch it if and when it goes on sale. ___________
As the bodies pile up and the world tilts further into chaos, Manning and Dewey must protect the last of the Righteous Men from a ruthless killer able to beguile his victims and command them against their will. Plunged into a deadly game of cat and mouse, the detectives find their arsenal of bullets and blades of little use against a foe who knows their every move.
Joining forces with the rabbinical scholar and a renowned anthropologist, Manning and Dewey set off on a perilous quest from New York to Gehenna in Israel to confront a murderer who won’t stop until he’s killed every one.
103 I read...an author new to me, Karin Slaughter about a dyslectic detective named Will Trent and was fascinated by the character. Picked up the first book in the series, Triptych, and couldn't wait to read the next books in he series. Will's dyslexia is what makes him a phenomenal detective. His brain makes connections that others miss so he can read a crime scene like no other. Even minor characters have depth but Will is so flawed, so human,you can't help but keep pulling for him to succeed. Slaughter's dry sense of humor pervades the dialogue and keeps gruesome crime details from taking away from the story. I'm now on book six, so highly recommended.The Kindle version of Triptych is $9.99. One of the Amazon reviewers warned sensitive readers that this book is very descriptive of crime scenes, lots of cussing, and also because most of the victims are young, 14-16 years old.
Posted by: Sharon at December 01, 2019 09:59 AM (QzF6i)
Who Dis:
Last week's 'who dis' was Paul Newman.
428 ''Paul Newman was very sexy in his prime.''I have to tell you this story: Newman used to race cars in local competition, and there was a moron a few years back, I forget his nic, who competed on the same circuit. Said moron encountered Newman at the track on more than one occasion and said he had the most striking blue eyes he had ever seen. He went on: "...and you know what's weird? I'm a guy. I don't ever notice some other man's eyes."
Was he ever! Those blue eyes...
Posted by: Tuna at December 08, 2019 01:54 PM (RueoN)
Books By Morons If you think progressive clown culture couldn't possibly get any worse, you obviously haven't read Appalling Stories 4: Even More Appalling Tales of Social Injustice, the new anthology featuring stories by Dave Dubrow, Ray Zacek, Paul Hair, Adam Howe and more. They slay the left's sacred cows and make burgers from the carcasses.
You'll find tales of hilarious Hollywood degeneracy, disturbing dystopias, Green New Deals gone black, old-school treasure-hunting, and much more. Triggering, microaggressions, macroaggressions, punching down, punching up, punching Antifa: like the old spaghetti sauce commercial says, it's in there.From the forward by Denise McAllister:
Some of us who have been watching our culture slouching toward Gomorrah aren’t surprised to see it finally arrive within the gates. Even so, we feel the pinpricks of shock run up our spines and wonder how much further we can go down the rabbit hole of cultural and political decline. Appalling Stories 4 takes those musings and runs with them, driving us all toward dark conclusions that—while extreme—make us think. Exploring the absurd in fantasy often reveals the depths of absurdity in reality. This is what these stories do. They’re a wake-up call to a culture on the brink, a society tipping the balance of rationality and plunging into the insanity of a worldview driven by social justice warriors hell-bent on upending Western civilization.With woke progressivism corroding every American cultural institution, probably the most subversive thing you can do is laugh at it, and this book will help. Because the devil is a proud spirit who cannot endure to be mocked. And, as always, if any of you morons are interested in reading and providing Amazon reviews of this or any of the books in the Appalling Stories series, Dave would be more than happy to send out copies free of charge. Just drop him an email at davedauthor atsign gmail dot com.
___________ 'Ette author right wing yankee tells me that has just published "a sweet regency romance, more likely to appeal to the 'ettes, and the perfect little story for when you want a break from putting up the tree and baking mountains of cookies."
Agnes Rawlins would never dream of showing a melancholy face to her brother's guests. She may be a spinster, and treated little better than any common housekeeper, but she is responsible for bringing Christmas cheer into the dark and rambling Blackheath Manor, and she does not shirk her duty, even when she has little reason to celebrate.Christmas at Blackheath is short, sweet, and the Kindle version is 99 cents. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books. ___________
William Marlowe, Viscount Claridge, has reluctantly accepted an invitation to spend the Christmas season at Blackheath. It's not his first choice- how anyone could wish to spend time in the gloomy manor house is beyond him- but when he meets the kind and gentle lady of the house, he find that Christmas at Blackheath might not be so bad after all.
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It was a monstrous constellation of unnatural light, like a glutted swarm of corpse-fed fireflies dancing hellish sarabands over an accursed marsh; and its colour was that same nameless intrusion which Ammi had come to recognise and dread.
-- H.P. Lovecraft (of course), from "The Colour Out of Space"
-- H.P. Lovecraft (of course), from "The Colour Out of Space"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (vhcul)
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Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (arJlL)
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Oneth?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (HaL55)
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Shazbot! But I got a Third! two mornings in a row.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 09:01 AM (HaL55)
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Hiya JT! Eaten any good books?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:02 AM (vhcul)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:02 AM (7EjX1)
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BOOKEN MORGEN HORDEN
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 09:02 AM (G546f)
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For those who like the old pulp fiction stories (hi Eris) the Kindle Daily Deals has a couple. The Complete tales of Jules De Grandin, Volume 1 and volume 5 by Seaburg Quinn. They are $1.99 each. The Grandin stories were apparently hugely popular whenever they appeared, which was frequently, from the 1920s to the 1950s. I'm not familiar with the tales but willing to risk four bucks to find out.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (7EjX1)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
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It's Jane Asher. She was Paul McCartney's girlfriend. She starred in Alfie and Brideshead Revisited.
It's Jane Asher. She was Paul McCartney's girlfriend. She starred in Alfie and Brideshead Revisited.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (mKLFv)
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Book nerds!
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The inventor of the Bass-O-Matic™ was ostercized.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (m45I2)
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Hiya Eris !
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (arJlL)
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Me wike Lieberry!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 09:05 AM (IttZ7)
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Those pants are fine. We would wear them to a barbeque in the Queen's back yard.
Posted by: Tweedledee and Tweedledum at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (Tnijr)
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12 Book nerds!
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*gives Ogre a fake cream pie with a picture of Helen Thomas at the bottom*
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*gives Ogre a fake cream pie with a picture of Helen Thomas at the bottom*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (vhcul)
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"Corpse-fed fireflies" ? And I used to like them...
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:06 AM (zr5Kq)
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Whoever received the most votes would be banished from the city for up to a decade.
It's not who votes, it's who counts the shards.
It's not who votes, it's who counts the shards.
Posted by: J. Stalinokopolis at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (DMUuz)
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Rick Random? I've got a bud who does a rock-a-billy show....Vic Velvet.
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (X/Pw5)
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I read the latest installments in Chris Nutall's Learning Experiences series about a war between eager creative humans and immensely powerful ancient civilizations determined to maintain the status quo by wiping out the upstart humans. Worth checking out.
I also started "Famous Men of Ancient Times" by Samuel Griswold Goodrich, an old, inexpensive, yet very readable collection of biographies of historical figures of note. The section on Muhammad was particularly interesting.
I still have a big backlog of books from the cyber Monday sale, and I picked up Robert Kroese's Schrodinger's Gat on a recommendation from a moron last week.
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good read!
I also started "Famous Men of Ancient Times" by Samuel Griswold Goodrich, an old, inexpensive, yet very readable collection of biographies of historical figures of note. The section on Muhammad was particularly interesting.
I still have a big backlog of books from the cyber Monday sale, and I picked up Robert Kroese's Schrodinger's Gat on a recommendation from a moron last week.
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good read!
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at December 15, 2019 09:07 AM (FXjhj)
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It takes a few clicks but you can get into preferences in your Kindle Unlimited account and see authors you are following. It will also link to their most current release.
Posted by: Mandela Funeral Fake Sign Language Guy at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (JFO2v)
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There's no greater gift a parent can give a child than a house full of books.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 09:04 AM (7rVsF)
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I don't know. A love of reading is a better gift. I despair when I think of how I'm going to deal with my father's book collection.
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I don't know. A love of reading is a better gift. I despair when I think of how I'm going to deal with my father's book collection.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)
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Currently reading Churchill's A History of the English-Speaking Peoples ( The Birth of Britain). It's a bit of a slog in parts but on the whole, pretty interesting. It takes a while to get used to his writing style but the old guy was a pretty good storyteller. One thing that really impresses is what a tribulation life must have been in the Middle Ages.
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RE: Santa Claus novels
Confidence - a limerick
The story came to me in a dream
It's a North Polean kidnapping scheme
It seems Old Saint Nick
Is an arrogant prick
But he's suffers from low elf-esteem
Confidence - a limerick
The story came to me in a dream
It's a North Polean kidnapping scheme
It seems Old Saint Nick
Is an arrogant prick
But he's suffers from low elf-esteem
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:15 AM (m45I2)
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I read Winter Grave by Helene Tursten, trans. from the Swedish by Marlaine Delargy. This is the second in the Embla Nystrom Investigation series and the second mystery series by Tursten. In this, Embla must solve the case of two missing children. Suspenseful and well-written, but some SJW BS scattered throughout the book.
Recommended here several times, I read Red Metal by Mark Greaney and LTC H. Ripley Rawlings IV, USMC. This is an action-packed page turner as Russians attack through Poland to Stuttgart, Germany on Christmas day; but this is just a diversion for an attack in Africa to secure a rich rare-earth minerals mine in Kenya. Not only an exciting story, but one learns about new weapons systems, new capabilities, and new tactics.
Recommended here several times, I read Red Metal by Mark Greaney and LTC H. Ripley Rawlings IV, USMC. This is an action-packed page turner as Russians attack through Poland to Stuttgart, Germany on Christmas day; but this is just a diversion for an attack in Africa to secure a rich rare-earth minerals mine in Kenya. Not only an exciting story, but one learns about new weapons systems, new capabilities, and new tactics.
Posted by: Zoltan at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (8jlwn)
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Those horned aliens on the book cover are not wearing pants.
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (NqQAS)
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I may have an ambitious reading project coming up. No. 1 Son is an extreme Tolkien nerd*. He's read the big ones, and the Silmarillon, and the Children of Chtulu or whatever it's called, and he's now wandering through just about the last published work he could find.
Now he wants to read Beowulf. I told him to read the Seamus Haney translation. He remembers me reading it on a camping trip. He asked if Tolkien had translated Beowulf. I thought he might have for his own amusement, but it turned out that a Tolkien translation from the 1920s was published in 2014.
The reviews call it a lousy translation but a good book. That sounds good. I think you're allowed to take a few liberties with the Beowulf story.
Anyway, the deal is that when we are finished with out current readings No. 1 Son and I will each read the Haney and then the Tolkien and compare notes.
*(he has that stylized JRRT logo tattooed on his bicep)
Now he wants to read Beowulf. I told him to read the Seamus Haney translation. He remembers me reading it on a camping trip. He asked if Tolkien had translated Beowulf. I thought he might have for his own amusement, but it turned out that a Tolkien translation from the 1920s was published in 2014.
The reviews call it a lousy translation but a good book. That sounds good. I think you're allowed to take a few liberties with the Beowulf story.
Anyway, the deal is that when we are finished with out current readings No. 1 Son and I will each read the Haney and then the Tolkien and compare notes.
*(he has that stylized JRRT logo tattooed on his bicep)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:17 AM (gd9RK)
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Ok, on a serious note, I know some 'rons and 'ettes have lost loved ones this year (I lost my mother in May) and as we approach the first Christmas without them, our joy in this season is tempered with our feelings of loss.
A person from our church gave us a set of booklets to help navigate through this time. Jewells, I think you lost a parent this year?
"Journeying Through Grief" is a series of 4 booklets, meant to be read at different times through the first year after a loved one dies. The series is written by a pastor who is also a psychologist. He also has lived the journey in that he lost his own wife to cancer.
One of the things that we noticed after my mother died was that people are super nice to you for a week or two and then they move on, and you can't yet, you're still in the middle of your grief. I compared the experience to getting a load-bearing wall of my life knocked down and having to deal with the aftermath.
These booklets have helped me in my journey, and I hope they will help some of you too. Just keep a box of Kleenex handy.
https://tinyurl.com/voor4sc
A person from our church gave us a set of booklets to help navigate through this time. Jewells, I think you lost a parent this year?
"Journeying Through Grief" is a series of 4 booklets, meant to be read at different times through the first year after a loved one dies. The series is written by a pastor who is also a psychologist. He also has lived the journey in that he lost his own wife to cancer.
One of the things that we noticed after my mother died was that people are super nice to you for a week or two and then they move on, and you can't yet, you're still in the middle of your grief. I compared the experience to getting a load-bearing wall of my life knocked down and having to deal with the aftermath.
These booklets have helped me in my journey, and I hope they will help some of you too. Just keep a box of Kleenex handy.
https://tinyurl.com/voor4sc
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 09:18 AM (IttZ7)
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"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx, the truly American Marxist
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx, the truly American Marxist
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 09:18 AM (HaL55)
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Those horned aliens on the book cover are not wearing pants.
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (NqQAS)
skirts and earrings....hmmm
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at December 15, 2019 09:16 AM (NqQAS)
skirts and earrings....hmmm
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I read a really good book by Ann Patchett called "The Dutch House", about a brother and sister who grow up in an almost oppressively palatial mansion bought by their father for his first wife. She runs away, and in a few years the father marries a pretty woman with two daughters and an eye for the main chance. She slowly squeezes out the brother and sister, eventually taking over the house and business.
It's like a modern-day fairy tale of abandonment with a wicked step-mother. Danny and Maeve move on with school and careers but remain almost chained to the house and their past.
The story covers decades and reveals the story behind every character. I loved the tight bond between the siblings.
It's like a modern-day fairy tale of abandonment with a wicked step-mother. Danny and Maeve move on with school and careers but remain almost chained to the house and their past.
The story covers decades and reveals the story behind every character. I loved the tight bond between the siblings.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (vhcul)
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Hello, readists!
ok, so what I have been reading, and it is surprisingly entertaining, is the Library of Congress records of the Dachau War Crimes tribunals, from 1946. Fifteen volumes of scanned microfiche. i never paid attention to the Tribunals much before, so i am learning a lot. There were three basic levels, for the US - the international ones (Nuremburg, etc.), the US Military ones, and then the US Army ones, like Dachau. The Dachau trials were just held in the city, didn't have anything to do with the concentration camp there.
anyway, its all part of the research for the book on my grandfather.
Happy reading, all!
ok, so what I have been reading, and it is surprisingly entertaining, is the Library of Congress records of the Dachau War Crimes tribunals, from 1946. Fifteen volumes of scanned microfiche. i never paid attention to the Tribunals much before, so i am learning a lot. There were three basic levels, for the US - the international ones (Nuremburg, etc.), the US Military ones, and then the US Army ones, like Dachau. The Dachau trials were just held in the city, didn't have anything to do with the concentration camp there.
anyway, its all part of the research for the book on my grandfather.
Happy reading, all!
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (iUjXP)
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Oh, hey everyone.
Had drill last week. Here's the writing update:
Vampires of Michigan is now in the process of being edited. Normally I do a single hard-copy edit, but this MS needs extra work due to the protracted nature of its composition. Lots of continuity errors because my conception of certain items changed along the way.
This means corrections actually entail some significant re-writes.
After that, I'll send it to my proof-readers and then do a second hard-copy edit to fix smaller errors.
Publication schedule is therefore looking like sometime in January. I'm taking time off next week so that should speed things up.
Next up is Battle Officer Wolf Book 2 and then maybe a break. I'm trying to do a book a year, which seems like a reasonable pace.
Thanks for everyone whose bought my books and remember they make great Christmas presents!
Had drill last week. Here's the writing update:
Vampires of Michigan is now in the process of being edited. Normally I do a single hard-copy edit, but this MS needs extra work due to the protracted nature of its composition. Lots of continuity errors because my conception of certain items changed along the way.
This means corrections actually entail some significant re-writes.
After that, I'll send it to my proof-readers and then do a second hard-copy edit to fix smaller errors.
Publication schedule is therefore looking like sometime in January. I'm taking time off next week so that should speed things up.
Next up is Battle Officer Wolf Book 2 and then maybe a break. I'm trying to do a book a year, which seems like a reasonable pace.
Thanks for everyone whose bought my books and remember they make great Christmas presents!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:20 AM (cfSRQ)
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Okay....
Last coupla weeks, I read L.A. Confidential by James Ellroy, I'd read it a long time ago when it first came out....well before the movie. I still found it enjoyable.
Then, while watching the movie Jackie Brown, I experienced an Elmore Leonard jones, and I read Be Cool.
I'm finishing up Badasses - The Legend of Snake, Foo, Dr. Death and John Madden's Oakland Raiders.
Last coupla weeks, I read L.A. Confidential by James Ellroy, I'd read it a long time ago when it first came out....well before the movie. I still found it enjoyable.
Then, while watching the movie Jackie Brown, I experienced an Elmore Leonard jones, and I read Be Cool.
I'm finishing up Badasses - The Legend of Snake, Foo, Dr. Death and John Madden's Oakland Raiders.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:21 AM (arJlL)
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That photo of Nads...tell me it's photoshopped!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (vhcul)
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Now he wants to read Beowulf. I told him to read
the Seamus Haney translation. He remembers me reading it on a camping
trip. He asked if Tolkien had translated Beowulf. I thought he might
have for his own amusement, but it turned out that a Tolkien translation
from the 1920s was published in 2014.
The reviews call it a lousy translation but a good book. That
sounds good. I think you're allowed to take a few liberties with the
Beowulf story.
Anyway, the deal is that when we are finished with out current
readings No. 1 Son and I will each read the Haney and then the Tolkien
and compare notes.
*(he has that stylized JRRT logo tattooed on his bicep)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:17 AM (gd9RK)
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Battle Officer Wolf is based on the Seamus Haney translation. I used the annotated version.
My wife bought it for her Tolkien class at Michigan State.
the Seamus Haney translation. He remembers me reading it on a camping
trip. He asked if Tolkien had translated Beowulf. I thought he might
have for his own amusement, but it turned out that a Tolkien translation
from the 1920s was published in 2014.
The reviews call it a lousy translation but a good book. That
sounds good. I think you're allowed to take a few liberties with the
Beowulf story.
Anyway, the deal is that when we are finished with out current
readings No. 1 Son and I will each read the Haney and then the Tolkien
and compare notes.
*(he has that stylized JRRT logo tattooed on his bicep)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:17 AM (gd9RK)
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Battle Officer Wolf is based on the Seamus Haney translation. I used the annotated version.
My wife bought it for her Tolkien class at Michigan State.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (cfSRQ)
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That Nadler pic might be photoshopped but it's not far from the truth.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:23 AM (dUJdY)
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anyway, its all part of the research for the book on my grandfather.
Happy reading, all!
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (iUjXP)
Can you reveal more here ? Was your grandfather a POW or take part in the tribunals ?
Happy reading, all!
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (iUjXP)
Can you reveal more here ? Was your grandfather a POW or take part in the tribunals ?
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:23 AM (zr5Kq)
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Jewells, I think you lost a parent this year?
Yes, January 5 so this is my first Christmas without her and I find myself thinking of her constantly. Driving down a road yesterday I remember taking her on a drive on that very street about 3 Springs ago. She was like a child, so delighted to see the daffodils, crocus and redbud trees blooming.
Yes, January 5 so this is my first Christmas without her and I find myself thinking of her constantly. Driving down a road yesterday I remember taking her on a drive on that very street about 3 Springs ago. She was like a child, so delighted to see the daffodils, crocus and redbud trees blooming.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:26 AM (dUJdY)
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Re: Santa Claus novels
Look For The Union Label - a limerick
In a novel by Henry C. Fielding
About bicycle decoration and gilding
They called for a strike
Said, "We'll build no more bikes!"
You could say, "Elves has left the building!"
Look For The Union Label - a limerick
In a novel by Henry C. Fielding
About bicycle decoration and gilding
They called for a strike
Said, "We'll build no more bikes!"
You could say, "Elves has left the building!"
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:26 AM (m45I2)
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My question: Is the photo in the "these pants" link doctored or real? Seems to me it could go either way. It's getting harder to tell what is silly exaggeration from reality as far as the Dims are concerned.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:26 AM (7EjX1)
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Back in the days (when America was already great), we had the Golden Ream Contest for our professors. You voted with pennies. The one with the most pennies got the Golden Ream Award.
He got his revenge served cold, when the report cards came out marked "F".
Survival of the fittest.
He got his revenge served cold, when the report cards came out marked "F".
Survival of the fittest.
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at December 15, 2019 09:29 AM (EMi53)
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Book Notes: I'm currently working my way through LotR at a leisurely pace. Last night arrived at the House of Tom Bombadil. I hope Amazon makes this is a massive TV miniseries, with one episode per chapter. It would be brilliant.
Supposedly the Tolkien Estate has set strict limits on what they can do. So there won't be any stupid Peter Jackson dwarf/elf love affair nonsense.
For a diversion, I picked up The Hidden Origins of Islam, which is the densest book I've ever read. Its an anthology and some of the essays are pretty much incomprehensible to me. One last night had quotations in Arabic with footnotes that included the German translation.
Interesting that a lot of scholarship into Islam's origins comes from Germany. I think my new joke is that I prefer to Koran in the original German.
Anyhow, there are some less intense essays and they bring out the fact that Islam's origins are really obscure. One takeaway quote is that no other world religion is so self-referential as Islam. There are not only no contemporary Arabic accounts of Mohammed, there no accounts from anyone else.
This is why some scholars are starting to wonder if he even existed.
Anyhow, not a book for the faint of heart. Robert Spencer is a bit more accessible.
Supposedly the Tolkien Estate has set strict limits on what they can do. So there won't be any stupid Peter Jackson dwarf/elf love affair nonsense.
For a diversion, I picked up The Hidden Origins of Islam, which is the densest book I've ever read. Its an anthology and some of the essays are pretty much incomprehensible to me. One last night had quotations in Arabic with footnotes that included the German translation.
Interesting that a lot of scholarship into Islam's origins comes from Germany. I think my new joke is that I prefer to Koran in the original German.
Anyhow, there are some less intense essays and they bring out the fact that Islam's origins are really obscure. One takeaway quote is that no other world religion is so self-referential as Islam. There are not only no contemporary Arabic accounts of Mohammed, there no accounts from anyone else.
This is why some scholars are starting to wonder if he even existed.
Anyhow, not a book for the faint of heart. Robert Spencer is a bit more accessible.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:29 AM (cfSRQ)
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My question: Is the photo in the "these pants" link doctored or real?
I sincerely hope so, and if not, its STILL a great pic !
I sincerely hope so, and if not, its STILL a great pic !
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:29 AM (arJlL)
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/sox
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 09:30 AM (JFO2v)
49
Comey on Fox News Sunday plays Sgt. Schultz, I am only The FBI Director and didn't really know the details.
Posted by: Older Than Dirt at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (OFz7E)
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I finally finished "The Spanish Civil War," by Stanley Payne. This is an academic history, not a popular history, & it was a slog. A short book but it took me weeks to read it. Don't look for any photos or eyewitness accounts. We're talking DRY reading.
Here are a few takeaways:
1) the best thing that can be said for Franco is that the other side started the mass executions, & they were well & truly under way before Franco even took the field.
2) the worst thing that can be said about Franco is that he CONTINUED the mass executions for appx a year & a half AFTER the fighting had stopped.
3) the grand judicial murder score was Republicans appx 60000, & Nationalists appx 110000-- including appx 25000 AFTER the Republican govt had fled into exile, & the fighting had stopped.
4) the civil war was so bitter that prisoner exchanges were out of the question.
5) Franco was an excellent logistician & force preserver, but a mediocre strategist at best. Nonetheless, his plodding, cautious strategy served his side well given all the circumstances under which he labored.
6) The Republicans made the same mistake as the Confederacy, imo. They tried to repeatedly to launch offensive campaigns when they were fighting an enemy with more resources.
Here are a few takeaways:
1) the best thing that can be said for Franco is that the other side started the mass executions, & they were well & truly under way before Franco even took the field.
2) the worst thing that can be said about Franco is that he CONTINUED the mass executions for appx a year & a half AFTER the fighting had stopped.
3) the grand judicial murder score was Republicans appx 60000, & Nationalists appx 110000-- including appx 25000 AFTER the Republican govt had fled into exile, & the fighting had stopped.
4) the civil war was so bitter that prisoner exchanges were out of the question.
5) Franco was an excellent logistician & force preserver, but a mediocre strategist at best. Nonetheless, his plodding, cautious strategy served his side well given all the circumstances under which he labored.
6) The Republicans made the same mistake as the Confederacy, imo. They tried to repeatedly to launch offensive campaigns when they were fighting an enemy with more resources.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (Cssks)
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The story covers decades and reveals the story behind every character. I loved the tight bond between the siblings.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (vhcul)
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I think V.C. Andrews had a book about tightly-bonded siblings in the late 80s. Flowers for Algernon in the Attic or something.
All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:19 AM (vhcul)
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I think V.C. Andrews had a book about tightly-bonded siblings in the late 80s. Flowers for Algernon in the Attic or something.
All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)
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I can't believe I just bought a book titled "A Santa Claus Action Thriller." But I did, and it looks good.
Posted by: Dr Alice at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (oW/8k)
53
Comey says The FBI is an honesty, apolitical organization.
Posted by: FloridaMan at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (OFz7E)
54
All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.
Mom locks a brother a sister up for years, they eventually have sex. The end.
Mom locks a brother a sister up for years, they eventually have sex. The end.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (dUJdY)
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Started a new book group read "At Swim Two Boys" by Jamie O'Neill. First of all, this was the choice of one of the butt spelunkers in the group because it has a homo component. After much eye rolling I thought I'd give it a chance because I'm a big Paul Bowles fan, for example, but it damn sight better be well written or I'd drop it like a Kennedy who finds a cum dumpster inconvenient. Welp it's very well written; Joycean even. So much so that he uses weird mick made up archaic words that quickly made me do a WTF online search and SHAZAM came upon O'Neill's site where he has a section by section glossary. This is a mixed blessing because on one hand you know what everything means but going back and forth isn't exactly an ideal way to read for enjoyment, even when enjoyment involves using your noggin. Anyway everything is still setup of WW1 era Dublin where the micks are chafing over the Brits but are still pissed off at the fucking Huns, most of the normal semi sober ones at least. And one of the main characters is the son of a widower shopkeeper who's trying to move up in the world. The kid's already had a weird encounter with a Catholic brother teaching the school band, and nothing screams homo like that amirite? Anyway he's buds with the son of the town drunk who seems like he's already well versed with the love that shall not be named so we'll see. There are some secondary characters which I'm not sure how they figure in the plot but that's why we forge ahead.
The library had very few copies of this which was strange considering it was published in 2001 and I thought all things homo would be popular with the progs who run lieberries into the path to perdition. Maybe they just want homo porn.
The library had very few copies of this which was strange considering it was published in 2001 and I thought all things homo would be popular with the progs who run lieberries into the path to perdition. Maybe they just want homo porn.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 09:36 AM (y7DUB)
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I think V.C. Andrews had a book about tightly-bonded siblings in the late 80s. Flowers for Algernon in the Attic or something.
All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)
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It wasn't that kind of bond, ya freak!
All the girls in high school were reading it but wouldn't say what it was about.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)
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It wasn't that kind of bond, ya freak!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:36 AM (vhcul)
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6) The Republicans made the same mistake as the
Confederacy, imo. They tried to repeatedly to launch offensive
campaigns when they were fighting an enemy with more resources.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (Cssks)
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The Republic had more resources at the beginning and squandered them.
I disagree that Payne is dry. I found it quick going - finished it in a couple of weeks, though I admit I'm a bit more obsessive about these things.
Still, he's a lot better than Hugh Thomas, which tries to be more accessible but is long-winded, obscure and of course badly biased.
Regarding executions, part of the problem was that there was a lot of vengeance in the air. Payback is a bitch, etc. I think Payne notes that Franco won the bodybag sweepstakes because he won the war.
If he had lost, the Republic would definitely have outpaced his total and their killing would have gone on until their government collapsed, just like everywhere else the left takes power.
Confederacy, imo. They tried to repeatedly to launch offensive
campaigns when they were fighting an enemy with more resources.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:31 AM (Cssks)
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The Republic had more resources at the beginning and squandered them.
I disagree that Payne is dry. I found it quick going - finished it in a couple of weeks, though I admit I'm a bit more obsessive about these things.
Still, he's a lot better than Hugh Thomas, which tries to be more accessible but is long-winded, obscure and of course badly biased.
Regarding executions, part of the problem was that there was a lot of vengeance in the air. Payback is a bitch, etc. I think Payne notes that Franco won the bodybag sweepstakes because he won the war.
If he had lost, the Republic would definitely have outpaced his total and their killing would have gone on until their government collapsed, just like everywhere else the left takes power.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
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VC Andrews is still writing books today, long after her death.
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 09:38 AM (G546f)
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Question for the Horde: I've been accepted as a vendor for a homeschooling conference in KC in April, and I'd like to reprint a new public domain title, preferably from the Victorian or Edwardian era, that will appeal to homeschooling families... maybe a good history or literature text from that era which has been overlooked or forgotten. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Secret Square at December 15, 2019 09:38 AM (9WuX0)
60
I'm as honest as the day is long. In Antarctica. In June.
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 15, 2019 09:40 AM (EgshT)
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Horny Scotsmen attempting to switch from sheep to busty bints but gay joker intervenes.....It's a tense deep seated hatred all wrapped up in a 10cent masterpiece.
Horny Scotsmen attempting to switch from sheep to busty bints but gay joker intervenes.....It's a tense deep seated hatred all wrapped up in a 10cent masterpiece.
Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 09:40 AM (5IHGB)
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Mom locks a brother a sister up for years, they eventually have sex. The end.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (dUJdY)
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Well yes, I know that NOW, but at the time it was kind of funny how evasive they were. Whispered conversations that stopped when guys butted in.
Ah the joys of innocent youth.
Posted by: Jewells45 at December 15, 2019 09:34 AM (dUJdY)
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Well yes, I know that NOW, but at the time it was kind of funny how evasive they were. Whispered conversations that stopped when guys butted in.
Ah the joys of innocent youth.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:40 AM (cfSRQ)
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I don't know. A love of reading is a better gift. I despair when I think of how I'm going to deal with my father's book collection.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)
I get your point and I understand. It is also difficult to move your own collection. There is the physical burden of packing, then the realization and sadness that you cannot take them all with you.
But
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)
I get your point and I understand. It is also difficult to move your own collection. There is the physical burden of packing, then the realization and sadness that you cannot take them all with you.
But
Posted by: FloridaMan at December 15, 2019 09:41 AM (OFz7E)
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I watched the movie Timeline (which sucked) and read in the IMDb trivia that Crichton so disliked the movie adaptation that he refused to allow any other of his books to be made into movies. So I read the book which was OK but not great. The movie is considerably different and I can't help but wonder who thought the changes improved the story. They changed the sex of a character from girl power in the book to a guy. They changed relationships making one character the father of another. They ignored a major plot element, the difficulty with language, and niced the bad billionaire up. It would be interesting to hear the rationale for those changes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 09:42 AM (+y/Ru)
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24 AHL & Your Holiness
My kids are SOL, then, because I return all MY books to the library. I helped a college professor move his books to a new house once. When we got done (group of students), it appeared to me there would be no room left for furniture-- & it was a big house, too.
I decided I would never live like that.
The most impoverished man I ever knew (not the professor) got in trouble with the IRS-- (amazingly, since he was chronically unemployed). One day, the IRS showed up at his hovel with a truck & hauled away all his books.
My kids are SOL, then, because I return all MY books to the library. I helped a college professor move his books to a new house once. When we got done (group of students), it appeared to me there would be no room left for furniture-- & it was a big house, too.
I decided I would never live like that.
The most impoverished man I ever knew (not the professor) got in trouble with the IRS-- (amazingly, since he was chronically unemployed). One day, the IRS showed up at his hovel with a truck & hauled away all his books.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)
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...weave a suspenseful tale featuring seafaring dwarves, fiery dragons, cultured goblins, and flying elves that culminates in a battle of epic proportions.
*******
I LOL'ed.
*******
I LOL'ed.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (m45I2)
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38 That photo of Nads...tell me it's photoshopped!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (vhcul)
Best guess: it's fake but accurate.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:22 AM (vhcul)
Best guess: it's fake but accurate.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 09:44 AM (zGtXn)
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First off: Tolkein's Beowulf. I liked both his version and Heeney's translation. Tolkein also includes his essay "The Monster and the Critics" which is worth the price of the book, and a prose version "Sellic Spell" (="fairy tale").
But they both tell the same story. It's not like JRRT threw in a car chase or something.
But they both tell the same story. It's not like JRRT threw in a car chase or something.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 09:44 AM (urZJh)
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I continue with the LOTR audio and it is turning out to be a wonderful adjunct to reading. Properly done, these audio versions can really add to the enjoyment of favorite books.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 09:45 AM (7EjX1)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 15, 2019 09:46 AM (Ndje9)
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9 I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
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My kids are SOL, then, because I return all MY books
to the library. I helped a college professor move his books to a new
house once. When we got done (group of students), it appeared to me
there would be no room left for furniture-- it was a big house,
too.
I decided I would never live like that.
The most impoverished man I ever knew (not the professor) got in
trouble with the IRS-- (amazingly, since he was chronically unemployed).
One day, the IRS showed up at his hovel with a truck hauled away
all his books.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)
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In our old house, we were living the Book Moron lifestyle with bookshelves along just about every wall.
And it was just too much. So we started going through everything and while I held onto much of my collection, I did part with a number of books I didn't like and wouldn't read again but couldn't bear to discard.
Since then we've had to clean out her parents' house, and that taught me a lot about making it easy for the next generation. I'm very discerning about what books I buy and whether they are worthy of adding to my library.
As I noted here previously, a couple of years ago I did a major culling of the collection, getting rid of all the military history/weapons books that I knew had bogus data or outdated information. That opened up a lot of space. (I did keep a few that had sentimental value, like "Weapons and Warfare of the 20th Century" which was gift from my grandmother.)
to the library. I helped a college professor move his books to a new
house once. When we got done (group of students), it appeared to me
there would be no room left for furniture-- it was a big house,
too.
I decided I would never live like that.
The most impoverished man I ever knew (not the professor) got in
trouble with the IRS-- (amazingly, since he was chronically unemployed).
One day, the IRS showed up at his hovel with a truck hauled away
all his books.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:43 AM (Cssks)
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In our old house, we were living the Book Moron lifestyle with bookshelves along just about every wall.
And it was just too much. So we started going through everything and while I held onto much of my collection, I did part with a number of books I didn't like and wouldn't read again but couldn't bear to discard.
Since then we've had to clean out her parents' house, and that taught me a lot about making it easy for the next generation. I'm very discerning about what books I buy and whether they are worthy of adding to my library.
As I noted here previously, a couple of years ago I did a major culling of the collection, getting rid of all the military history/weapons books that I knew had bogus data or outdated information. That opened up a lot of space. (I did keep a few that had sentimental value, like "Weapons and Warfare of the 20th Century" which was gift from my grandmother.)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)
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Based on last week's recommendation, I bought M.F. Thomas - Arcade. Interesting premise re alien-caused EMP. Fast reading, enjoyable. Liked it enough that I ordered another of his - A Sickness in Time. I suspect I'll blast through it this week.
Yes, Moron Authors, this is a good promotion site.
Yes, Moron Authors, this is a good promotion site.
Posted by: RI Red at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cM3jS)
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I'm rooting for the Library!
******
I know not what course other Men may take, but as for me, give me Library. Or give me desk!
******
I know not what course other Men may take, but as for me, give me Library. Or give me desk!
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 09:49 AM (m45I2)
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The greatest gritty Santa story is the unending strife between Bun-bun and Santa, and the sub story of the Black Ops Elves, ending up with the book Holiday Wars.
All by Pete Abrams in Sluggy Freelance
Which is apparently all published hardcopy now.
*sigh* So much to read and enjoy, so little time
All by Pete Abrams in Sluggy Freelance
Which is apparently all published hardcopy now.
*sigh* So much to read and enjoy, so little time
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 09:49 AM (1glZx)
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In A People's Tragedy the Rooski civil war is over and, at the risk of being a spoiler, the reds won. The white army never stood a chance because they were too dedicated to the old ways which the masses did not want even though they knew they were fucked by the reds. An old tsarist General, Brusilov, was responsible for rooting the whites out of Crimea, their last stronghold, because he believed in Russian unity. Unfortunately the cocksuckers at the top used his name to promise amnesty to all the holdouts and then murdered every damn one of 'em. Needless to say the old General was depressed at how he'd been used and didn't live much longer.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (y7DUB)
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Ah, yes, I remember when every high school girl had a copy of _Flowers in the Attic_ (wasn't that the title? Too lazy to check) in her bookbag.
The library had it, and the cover looked like a horror story, so I tried to read it. Gave up after maybe a chapter.
The library had it, and the cover looked like a horror story, so I tried to read it. Gave up after maybe a chapter.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (urZJh)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?
I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?
I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)
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What? No Hannukah books? Going to see my grandkids next week. Need children's book recommendations about Hannukah.
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (QzF6i)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!
I haven't read much this week, but am still listening to Dog of the South on my commute. Funny stuff.
And Mr. April wanted to rearrange the library after we got a new rug for it, so I'm pleased with that. Life is good.
This is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it!
I haven't read much this week, but am still listening to Dog of the South on my commute. Funny stuff.
And Mr. April wanted to rearrange the library after we got a new rug for it, so I'm pleased with that. Life is good.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (OX9vb)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami
Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.
Posted by: Tami
Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)
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Secret Square, what a fascinating question!
I'd be interested in what you find
here's a general primary resource collection on Victorian England
https://www.bl.uk/victorian-britain
I'd be interested in what you find
here's a general primary resource collection on Victorian England
https://www.bl.uk/victorian-britain
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (G546f)
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No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
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Lemony Snicket was funny. Maybe too young though, although adults get a lot out of it.
Really depends on the kid. By the time I was 13 I had read The Gathering Storm and A Bridge Too Far and was deep into the Bantam War Books (Fly for Your Life, Reach for the Sky, Brazen Chariots, etc.).
At 14 I got The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers and loved it.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
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Lemony Snicket was funny. Maybe too young though, although adults get a lot out of it.
Really depends on the kid. By the time I was 13 I had read The Gathering Storm and A Bridge Too Far and was deep into the Bantam War Books (Fly for Your Life, Reach for the Sky, Brazen Chariots, etc.).
At 14 I got The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers and loved it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (cfSRQ)
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It's not like JRRT threw in a car chase or something.
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Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,
Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing
Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
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Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,
Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing
Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (arJlL)
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Speaking of Christmas, Tolkien geeks might groove to The Father Christmas Letters, which are fun and give a glimpse into Tolkien's family life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)
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Pish. You should do the original.
Da com of more, under mistleothum
Grendel gongan, goddes yrres baer
In Charger Fordeth, med Hurst on Flur
Da com of more, under mistleothum
Grendel gongan, goddes yrres baer
In Charger Fordeth, med Hurst on Flur
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (gd9RK)
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Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
With a pistol grip four on the floor and mags
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
With a pistol grip four on the floor and mags
Posted by: weirdflunky at December 15, 2019 09:55 AM (cknjq)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?
I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)
Classics are always good, no ? American, English, French, Greek....Unless she already read them.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cF8AT)
Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?
I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)
Classics are always good, no ? American, English, French, Greek....Unless she already read them.
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (zr5Kq)
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Cap'n Hate
I read that. It's highly regarded by critics.
57 ALH
I don't disagree with anything you posted there very much.
As for the Republic having more resources at the start: on paper. But Franco had the only battle-tested, professional troops-- from Spanish Morocco.
Franco would've lost before the war started if the Republicans could've thwarted his tiny airlift. But that was beyond Republican capabilities.
I read that. It's highly regarded by critics.
57 ALH
I don't disagree with anything you posted there very much.
As for the Republic having more resources at the start: on paper. But Franco had the only battle-tested, professional troops-- from Spanish Morocco.
Franco would've lost before the war started if the Republicans could've thwarted his tiny airlift. But that was beyond Republican capabilities.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (Cssks)
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Good morning, all - busy this week with getting ready for Christmas, and sorting out the garage, which was full of stuff that needed to be gone. Sold some on Nextdoor, the rest to Goodwill. We had thought to do a market on Saturday in New Braunfels, but then it turned out that the manager of it didn't think there would be many customers for it, and the thought of packing the Montero with the tables, the pavilion, the display stuff and the merchandise, hauling it all into the venue, setting up ... and then sitting there all way, waiting for customers ... did not appeal in the least. Our last market this season will be at the Court Street Coffee in Seguin, this Thursday. There'll be a dozen other indy authors there, from 4-8 PM, if anyone in the Horde wants to stop in and check them out! We'll have the print version of the first two Luna City compilations available - and they are finally up at my Amazon author page. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0989782344/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i8
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (xnmPy)
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Is this a pressing need or will an answer next week do?
I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)
Need it for a Christmas present but won't see her until a few days after Christmas. So not too pressing...or you can e-mail it to me at moronettetami at gmail.
I make my living among thirteen year old girls. I don't know what they read but I can ask them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:50 AM (gd9RK)
Need it for a Christmas present but won't see her until a few days after Christmas. So not too pressing...or you can e-mail it to me at moronettetami at gmail.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (cF8AT)
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Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,
Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing
Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
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Hey, you're getting dangerously close to my racket.
Vito and the boys would like to have a word with you.
Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing
Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
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Hey, you're getting dangerously close to my racket.
Vito and the boys would like to have a word with you.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)
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I guess the Iliad and the Odyssey are not really a mystery or too humorous...
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 09:57 AM (zr5Kq)
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Tolle Lege
Now I promise to follow my advice and stop at the used book store today
Now I promise to follow my advice and stop at the used book store today
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (ZCEU2)
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Looks like Kings College has Ostracized the Christian Students and now it's a PLAY_STATION club cum Tesla recharging station. tha'ts the way the shards crumble..POT is always a problem in Greece.
I imagine Hillary is often SHARD FACED & BAKED !!?
Looks like Kings College has Ostracized the Christian Students and now it's a PLAY_STATION club cum Tesla recharging station. tha'ts the way the shards crumble..POT is always a problem in Greece.
I imagine Hillary is often SHARD FACED & BAKED !!?
Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 09:58 AM (yQpMk)
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In the last book of Herodotus, even though Xerxes scurried back to Persia in defeat, his troops are still determined to defeat the Greeks so I guess the conflicts will continue until the very end.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 09:59 AM (y7DUB)
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Speaking of Christmas, Tolkien geeks might groove to The Father Christmas Letters, which are fun and give a glimpse into Tolkien's family life.
There was an exhibit of Tolkieana in NYC a couple of springs ago (or was it last spring?) and one of the Father Christmas letters was the highlight of it for me.
Of course, I wondered when the Tolkien spawn noticed that Father Christmas had the same handwriting and drawing style of Father Tolkien, but it was still wonderful.
Book Morons then told me that they've been published, but I've only read the one that was at the exhibit. "We've had terrible trouble with goblins this year. We have goblins the way you have rats and..."
There was an exhibit of Tolkieana in NYC a couple of springs ago (or was it last spring?) and one of the Father Christmas letters was the highlight of it for me.
Of course, I wondered when the Tolkien spawn noticed that Father Christmas had the same handwriting and drawing style of Father Tolkien, but it was still wonderful.
Book Morons then told me that they've been published, but I've only read the one that was at the exhibit. "We've had terrible trouble with goblins this year. We have goblins the way you have rats and..."
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 09:59 AM (gd9RK)
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Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)
Lemony Snicket was funny. Maybe too young though, although adults get a lot out of it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Thanks! I'll check these out.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)
Lemony Snicket was funny. Maybe too young though, although adults get a lot out of it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Thanks! I'll check these out.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:59 AM (cF8AT)
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Tami,let me ask KTY when she wakes up
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:00 AM (G546f)
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The list of, shall we say, "revisionist" Santa stories leaves out the original and greatest: The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus, by L. Frank (Wizard of Oz) Baum.
It's good, and very weird. Baum shifts Claus into a non-religious fantasy context. He gets his powers from some vaguely pagan (and kind of Masonic-sounding) dudes like the Master Woodman of the World.
If you remember the old Rankin-Bass "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" TV special, they cribbed a LOT from Baum. Don't know if they credited him or not.
Now to dive into some quasi-serious analysis: I'm not sure what I think about the de-Christianizing of St. Nicholas which has been going on since Clement Moore made him a jolly old elf instead of an Arian-punching bishop.
As a kid in a non-religious household I thought it was swell, of course. Santa as a fantasy character instead of a boring old dead Christian was a lot more fun. Plus it does dodge the question of why a saint is flying around in a reindeer sleigh each year.
As an adult I'm more ambivalent -- which is odd because I'm still not a believer. I love the secular Santa tradition, one of the few remaining bits of actual American shared culture. (Which is why the usual suspects keep trying to ban him, of course.)
And yet there's more to life than candy. A "Messiah" concert means something, too.
Not sure where I'm going with this. Except that it's easy to de-sanctify something than to re-sanctify it.
It's good, and very weird. Baum shifts Claus into a non-religious fantasy context. He gets his powers from some vaguely pagan (and kind of Masonic-sounding) dudes like the Master Woodman of the World.
If you remember the old Rankin-Bass "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" TV special, they cribbed a LOT from Baum. Don't know if they credited him or not.
Now to dive into some quasi-serious analysis: I'm not sure what I think about the de-Christianizing of St. Nicholas which has been going on since Clement Moore made him a jolly old elf instead of an Arian-punching bishop.
As a kid in a non-religious household I thought it was swell, of course. Santa as a fantasy character instead of a boring old dead Christian was a lot more fun. Plus it does dodge the question of why a saint is flying around in a reindeer sleigh each year.
As an adult I'm more ambivalent -- which is odd because I'm still not a believer. I love the secular Santa tradition, one of the few remaining bits of actual American shared culture. (Which is why the usual suspects keep trying to ban him, of course.)
And yet there's more to life than candy. A "Messiah" concert means something, too.
Not sure where I'm going with this. Except that it's easy to de-sanctify something than to re-sanctify it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:01 AM (urZJh)
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Jane Asher, why yes I would,then Marianne Faithful for afters.
Read to them and weep. Mmmmmm aaaaaahhh...and we all lived happily ever after,before and during.
Read to them and weep. Mmmmmm aaaaaahhh...and we all lived happily ever after,before and during.
Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 10:01 AM (5IHGB)
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I know not what course other Men may take, but as for me, give me Library. Or give me desk!
Posted by: Muldoon
stealing this
Posted by: Muldoon
stealing this
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:02 AM (G546f)
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Don't see 1 guess on the mystery woman, looks very familiar but can't place her yet
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:02 AM (ZCEU2)
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Jane Asher was really the only ginger I can recall from the 60s
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:02 AM (U7k5w)
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Saint Nick was a hero for punching Arius (who stated JC was the son of God, not God the Son) ... or Nick was Antifa, if Arius was (more) correct.
Standing against tradition makes one a "heretic". By that definition, Jesus was a heretic ... "you have made the Word of God of none effect by your traditions".
Interesting Britannica blurb on that Council of Nicea.
"The council condemned Arius and, with reluctance on the part of some, incorporated the nonscriptural word homoousios ("of one substance") into a creed to signify the absolute equality of the Son with the Father. The emperor then exiled Arius, an act that, while manifesting a solidarity of church and state, underscored the importance of secular patronage in ecclesiastical affairs."
Sure, just change the text, if you don't like what it actually says. It's just a "living document". They burned Arius' books as well.
Long live the disrupters of tradition (Trump, grand disrupter). Solidarity of church and state? Yet our founders saw the problem of such "solidarity", with Europe's kings and popes at war. (maybe the popes had less such solidarity than the kings then, idk ... but Commie Pope has solidarity with some evil globalists).
Council of Nicea was perhaps the foundation of the Institutional Church and Centralized Control, obey men or be ostracized. Luther put a dent in it, but Protestantism quickly became mostly institutional as well.
Standing against tradition makes one a "heretic". By that definition, Jesus was a heretic ... "you have made the Word of God of none effect by your traditions".
Interesting Britannica blurb on that Council of Nicea.
"The council condemned Arius and, with reluctance on the part of some, incorporated the nonscriptural word homoousios ("of one substance") into a creed to signify the absolute equality of the Son with the Father. The emperor then exiled Arius, an act that, while manifesting a solidarity of church and state, underscored the importance of secular patronage in ecclesiastical affairs."
Sure, just change the text, if you don't like what it actually says. It's just a "living document". They burned Arius' books as well.
Long live the disrupters of tradition (Trump, grand disrupter). Solidarity of church and state? Yet our founders saw the problem of such "solidarity", with Europe's kings and popes at war. (maybe the popes had less such solidarity than the kings then, idk ... but Commie Pope has solidarity with some evil globalists).
Council of Nicea was perhaps the foundation of the Institutional Church and Centralized Control, obey men or be ostracized. Luther put a dent in it, but Protestantism quickly became mostly institutional as well.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (Cus5s)
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More and more of my reading tends toward history and my hobbies. That lead me to re-read "Sixguns by Keith", especially the chapters on long range revolver shooting and cartridge reloading. Some of the information is outdated but less than you might think. Elmer Keith had an interesting writing style and really knew his firearms. He was a moving force behind the development of the 357, 41, and 44 magnum cartridges.
I have a number of classic books on the development and use of various guns. I should thumb through them more often as I enjoy the topic.
I have a number of classic books on the development and use of various guns. I should thumb through them more often as I enjoy the topic.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (7EjX1)
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Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?
Hmm...been a while since I've needed books for 13-year-olds, let me think on it.
A good mystery might be The Secret Place by Tana French. It's not a YA novel, but it's about a murder at a boarding school in Dublin. I found it fascinating, but I thought the characters (mostly high school students) would annoy a lot of adults.
No one has any suggestions?
Hmm...been a while since I've needed books for 13-year-olds, let me think on it.
A good mystery might be The Secret Place by Tana French. It's not a YA novel, but it's about a murder at a boarding school in Dublin. I found it fascinating, but I thought the characters (mostly high school students) would annoy a lot of adults.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (OX9vb)
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Cap'n Hate
I read that. It's highly regarded by critics.
Thanks for saying that. Am I correct in assuming you didn't enjoy it? It's a very long book so that's a lot of time to invest in a disappointment. If I feel that way I won't be shy about expressing my displeasure.
I read that. It's highly regarded by critics.
Thanks for saying that. Am I correct in assuming you didn't enjoy it? It's a very long book so that's a lot of time to invest in a disappointment. If I feel that way I won't be shy about expressing my displeasure.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:03 AM (y7DUB)
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Thanks vmom!
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 10:05 AM (cF8AT)
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Tolle Lege
Now I promise to follow my advice and stop at the used book store today
Posted by: Skip
Where's it at, Skip ?
Now I promise to follow my advice and stop at the used book store today
Posted by: Skip
Where's it at, Skip ?
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (arJlL)
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I don't disagree with anything you posted there very much.
As for the Republic having more resources at the start: on paper.
But Franco had the only battle-tested, professional troops-- from
Spanish Morocco.
Franco would've lost before the war started if the Republicans
could've thwarted his tiny airlift. But that was beyond Republican
capabilities.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (Cssks)
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The Republic's problem was that they decided revolution was more important than victory. Much of their strength was frittered away in pie-in-the-sky schemes to collectivize everything.
The Republic had:
1. More people
2. More territory
3. International recognition
4. National gold reserves
5. All the arms factories and industrial centers
The foreign aid was roughly equal but Franco had better unity of command, which helped tremendously.
I'm also surprised you left out what Payne considered to be a very important element: morale.
Time and again Nationalist troops proved that they were willing to fight to the death. They'd dig in around a church or cathedral and fight to the bitter end with a prayer on their lips. The defense of the Alcazar was without any equivalent on the Republican side.
Franco gets beaten up for diverting his attack from Madrid to Toledo but he understood that heroic myth was a powerful force in war and by saving the garrison he created one.
In a similar vein, Franco kept the old army largely intact and used his authority to bolster conscripts with battalions of more elite units like the Carlists or Navarrinos.
The Republic trashed the old army and tried to create a new one on the fly based on the Soviet model. This allowed them to field more troops, but only the International Brigades had any staying power and the command structure remained a mess.
Plus: the May Days.
I'm looking forward to reading Payne's biography of Franco, but that my have to wait until spring as I'm in full-on Tolkien/Beowulf mode.
As for the Republic having more resources at the start: on paper.
But Franco had the only battle-tested, professional troops-- from
Spanish Morocco.
Franco would've lost before the war started if the Republicans
could've thwarted his tiny airlift. But that was beyond Republican
capabilities.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 09:56 AM (Cssks)
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The Republic's problem was that they decided revolution was more important than victory. Much of their strength was frittered away in pie-in-the-sky schemes to collectivize everything.
The Republic had:
1. More people
2. More territory
3. International recognition
4. National gold reserves
5. All the arms factories and industrial centers
The foreign aid was roughly equal but Franco had better unity of command, which helped tremendously.
I'm also surprised you left out what Payne considered to be a very important element: morale.
Time and again Nationalist troops proved that they were willing to fight to the death. They'd dig in around a church or cathedral and fight to the bitter end with a prayer on their lips. The defense of the Alcazar was without any equivalent on the Republican side.
Franco gets beaten up for diverting his attack from Madrid to Toledo but he understood that heroic myth was a powerful force in war and by saving the garrison he created one.
In a similar vein, Franco kept the old army largely intact and used his authority to bolster conscripts with battalions of more elite units like the Carlists or Navarrinos.
The Republic trashed the old army and tried to create a new one on the fly based on the Soviet model. This allowed them to field more troops, but only the International Brigades had any staying power and the command structure remained a mess.
Plus: the May Days.
I'm looking forward to reading Payne's biography of Franco, but that my have to wait until spring as I'm in full-on Tolkien/Beowulf mode.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (cfSRQ)
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107 Saint Nick was a hero for punching Arius (who stated JC was the son of God, not God the Son) ... or Nick was Antifa, if Arius was (more) correct
I can confirm that I'm not the one.
I can confirm that I'm not the one.
Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (377Zs)
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I see, got it now.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:06 AM (ZCEU2)
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71 ... "I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?"
Tami, I was never a girl and 13 years old was a loooong time ago. Pure guess: would something like Jane Austen work or is the humor too subtle for that age? Maybe Georgette Heyer?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
No one has any suggestions?"
Tami, I was never a girl and 13 years old was a loooong time ago. Pure guess: would something like Jane Austen work or is the humor too subtle for that age? Maybe Georgette Heyer?
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:09 AM (7EjX1)
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TAMI
just remembered a book KTY loved just a few years ago:
13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear by Walter Moers
it's whimsical, illustrated, and appeals to a wide range of ages
just remembered a book KTY loved just a few years ago:
13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear by Walter Moers
it's whimsical, illustrated, and appeals to a wide range of ages
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:09 AM (G546f)
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Now to dive into some quasi-serious analysis: I'm not sure what I think about the de-Christianizing of St. Nicholas which has been going on since Clement Moore made him a jolly old elf instead of an Arian-punching bishop.
The Clement Moore Santa is a tributary in the vast intertwined river of St. Nicks. Moore and Washington Irving and some other Hudson Valley guy were all Dutch, and Santa Claus is just a Dutch way of saying Sankt Niklaus (that's German, I don't know the real Dutch) really fast. Try it.
Even Moore's Santa was still an elf, sprightly and all. He didn't get to be fat and jolly with a red suit until Coca-Cola ads in the 20s.
And lots of cultures have a tradition of a guy who gives presents at Christmas or near it. The Brits have Father Christmas, who inspires Kinks songs. The Germans have the Weihnachtsmann.
Catholic Germans and Austrians have a separate day for St Nick, Nikolaustag, December 6. Children leave their shoes out and in the morning St. Nick has filled them with candy.
I have no problem with their being a secular and a religious tradition to Christmas. Every culture has a solstice celebration because you need hope that the sun is ever going to come back.
The Clement Moore Santa is a tributary in the vast intertwined river of St. Nicks. Moore and Washington Irving and some other Hudson Valley guy were all Dutch, and Santa Claus is just a Dutch way of saying Sankt Niklaus (that's German, I don't know the real Dutch) really fast. Try it.
Even Moore's Santa was still an elf, sprightly and all. He didn't get to be fat and jolly with a red suit until Coca-Cola ads in the 20s.
And lots of cultures have a tradition of a guy who gives presents at Christmas or near it. The Brits have Father Christmas, who inspires Kinks songs. The Germans have the Weihnachtsmann.
Catholic Germans and Austrians have a separate day for St Nick, Nikolaustag, December 6. Children leave their shoes out and in the morning St. Nick has filled them with candy.
I have no problem with their being a secular and a religious tradition to Christmas. Every culture has a solstice celebration because you need hope that the sun is ever going to come back.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:09 AM (gd9RK)
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JTB at December 15, 2019 09:45 AM (7EjX1)
which one are you listening too?
I would like to find the best one to gift a friend who lost their eyesight.
which one are you listening too?
I would like to find the best one to gift a friend who lost their eyesight.
Posted by: dIb at December 15, 2019 10:10 AM (VJOLZ)
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72 ALH
That post really resonates for me. I'm trying to de-clutter for my kids also. I figure it's the last gift I can give them.
When my mother dies, dealing with all her things was agony. I waited 2 years after her death before I could bear to start.
I sold the last part of her stuff, that I decided not to keep, this past month. Consigned it to an auction house.
I was shocked that by far the most valuable thing I consigned was... an antique, iron, toy stove, circa 1910. I forgot I'd even included it. If I had any girls, I would've held onto it for them. It had lots of removable parts, & I think a couple of them were missing.
That post really resonates for me. I'm trying to de-clutter for my kids also. I figure it's the last gift I can give them.
When my mother dies, dealing with all her things was agony. I waited 2 years after her death before I could bear to start.
I sold the last part of her stuff, that I decided not to keep, this past month. Consigned it to an auction house.
I was shocked that by far the most valuable thing I consigned was... an antique, iron, toy stove, circa 1910. I forgot I'd even included it. If I had any girls, I would've held onto it for them. It had lots of removable parts, & I think a couple of them were missing.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 10:10 AM (Cssks)
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Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Am I too late?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:13 AM (Ki5SV)
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Golf clap, Mr. Muldoon!
Posted by: fly gal at December 15, 2019 10:14 AM (wqpwx)
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Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Am I too late?
You're just in time. We finished the mimosas, you can buy the next round.
You're just in time. We finished the mimosas, you can buy the next round.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (gd9RK)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
The Trixie Belden books.
Nancy Drew (classic series)
If she's a bit advanced in reading, start her into Agatha Christie and Dorothy Sayers.
If you want more contemporary YA stuff, I highly recommend the Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo. These are more fantasy though and are basically updated Russian fairy tales.
If you want stuff in the Hunger Games genre, the Testing series by Joelle Charbonneau is good, but it is in the teenagers killing/being killed genre so it depends on how you think she/her parents would feel about that.
If she's into scifi at all, Ready Player One the book is good but there is some wildly eyerolling shoehorned in sort of SJW type characters. At 13, she might not be old enough to read over it. Or, frankly, have the background in 80s pop culture to appreciate it.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
The Trixie Belden books.
Nancy Drew (classic series)
If she's a bit advanced in reading, start her into Agatha Christie and Dorothy Sayers.
If you want more contemporary YA stuff, I highly recommend the Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo. These are more fantasy though and are basically updated Russian fairy tales.
If you want stuff in the Hunger Games genre, the Testing series by Joelle Charbonneau is good, but it is in the teenagers killing/being killed genre so it depends on how you think she/her parents would feel about that.
If she's into scifi at all, Ready Player One the book is good but there is some wildly eyerolling shoehorned in sort of SJW type characters. At 13, she might not be old enough to read over it. Or, frankly, have the background in 80s pop culture to appreciate it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (GbPPJ)
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Charlaine Harris's Aurora Teagarden series would work for a 13 yr old. Mystery with some humor. Also, main character is very short so is sometimes not taken seriously. (being 5 ft tall, I related). She works in a library and is in a book club that solves mysteries. Perfect, right?
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (QzF6i)
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Comey on with Chris Wallace
Comey has a classic tell when he lies. His eyes shift down and to the right. He does it a lot
Comey has a classic tell when he lies. His eyes shift down and to the right. He does it a lot
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 10:16 AM (NuJm4)
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Comey has a classic tell when he lies. His eyes shift down and to the right. He does it a lot
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 10:16 AM (NuJm4)
I thought it was when his mouth moved and sound comes out.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 10:16 AM (NuJm4)
I thought it was when his mouth moved and sound comes out.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 10:17 AM (9Om/r)
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When Boy928 was a little child, he was convinced that Santa was Thor. Big guy, gives gifts to men, had a sled pulled by flying animals. I pointed out that Thor was pulled around by flying goats and he replied, 'Dad, it was the olden days. The reindeer probably hadn't grown their antlers yet so people just thought they were goats'.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 10:17 AM (yQpMk)
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As to Hanukkah books . . . there aren't any enduring universal classics on a par with "A Christmas Carol." And midcentury Jewish songwriters were too busy cranking out novelty Christmas songs to bother layering any secular mythology onto Hanukkah. Even Jews think the dreidel song is tiresome.
Dr. Mrs. T. does recommend some non-lame Hanukkah titles: All the Lights in the Night, by Arthur Levine (historical tale about Russian Jews), and Zagazak! by Eric Kimmel (a more straightforward fairy tale about devils trying to mess with people on Hanukkah and getting outwitted by the rabbi).
Dr. Mrs. T. does recommend some non-lame Hanukkah titles: All the Lights in the Night, by Arthur Levine (historical tale about Russian Jews), and Zagazak! by Eric Kimmel (a more straightforward fairy tale about devils trying to mess with people on Hanukkah and getting outwitted by the rabbi).
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (urZJh)
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72 ALH
That post really resonates for me. I'm trying to de-clutter for my kids also. I figure it's the last gift I can give them.
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Just a note: there is another poster who goes by ALH. That's not me.
I either use some variant of this nick or full-on sock puppet.
*Troy McClure voice*
You may remember me as Concerned Rock-Solid Conservative Army Vet or Joe Biden of the Horde.
72 ALH
That post really resonates for me. I'm trying to de-clutter for my kids also. I figure it's the last gift I can give them.
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Just a note: there is another poster who goes by ALH. That's not me.
I either use some variant of this nick or full-on sock puppet.
*Troy McClure voice*
You may remember me as Concerned Rock-Solid Conservative Army Vet or Joe Biden of the Horde.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (cfSRQ)
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I have started reading The Man From The Train: Discovering America's Most Elusive Serial Killer by Bill James, who, as the rear flap tells us, is the creator of the Baseball Abstracts and is, during the day, the Senior Advisor on Baseball Operations for the Red Sox.
Apparently, if you are from Iowa (which I am not), you know about the murder of the Moore family in Villisca in 1912. James' book connects that crime to others pre- and post-1912 and builds a case for them all having been committed by a train-riding ax murderer.
It's quite a read, if true crime interests you.
https://tinyurl.com/ubysw5b
Apparently, if you are from Iowa (which I am not), you know about the murder of the Moore family in Villisca in 1912. James' book connects that crime to others pre- and post-1912 and builds a case for them all having been committed by a train-riding ax murderer.
It's quite a read, if true crime interests you.
https://tinyurl.com/ubysw5b
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)
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When Boy928 was a little child, he was convinced that Santa was Thor. Big guy, gives gifts to men, had a sled pulled by flying animals. I pointed out that Thor was pulled around by flying goats and he replied, 'Dad, it was the olden days. The reindeer probably hadn't grown their antlers yet so people just thought they were goats'.
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lol, clever
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lol, clever
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 10:19 AM (zr5Kq)
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Girl928, also at a young age and having seen some description of the flat-landers, explained to me that Santa was an N-Dimensional Being, "like Jesus", and that he didn't so much come down the chimney but rather used the fireplace as a locus to find the room. She literally used the term "locus".
My children were strange indeed.
My children were strange indeed.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (yQpMk)
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You're just in time. We finished the mimosas, you can buy the next round.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (gd9RK)
Excellent.
**calls out**
Waiter? Dom Peringon '53. And make it a jeroboam this time!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (gd9RK)
Excellent.
**calls out**
Waiter? Dom Peringon '53. And make it a jeroboam this time!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (Ki5SV)
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Tami, I checked out Goodreads' list of books for 13-year-old girls. I haven't heard of most of them, but they recommend The Book Thief by Markus Zusak.
I have read that, and can recommend it. It's neither a mystery nor funny, but it's good.
I have read that, and can recommend it. It's neither a mystery nor funny, but it's good.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (OX9vb)
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119 ... "which one are you listening too?
I would like to find the best one to gift a friend who lost their eyesight."
It's the unabridged version read by Rob Inglis.
There is a BBC version that is an essemble cast with music and sound effects. I prefer the Inglis version that lets me concentrate on the writing.
I would like to find the best one to gift a friend who lost their eyesight."
It's the unabridged version read by Rob Inglis.
There is a BBC version that is an essemble cast with music and sound effects. I prefer the Inglis version that lets me concentrate on the writing.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:20 AM (7EjX1)
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A lot of history classes on the American Revolution tend to focus on the northern areas until they get to Yorktown. But my interest in the southern aspects is growing, partly for a more well rounded understanding and partly because it involved real citizen soldiers using guerilla tactics. I have the latest biography of the Swamp Fox (yes, I can still hear the Disney theme song), books the battles of King's Mountain and Cowpens, and some historically accurate fiction. I'm just starting to go through the material but so far it is fascinating. It does help to keep maps of the areas handy for reference.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:21 AM (7EjX1)
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Grumpy: you've got great kids.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (urZJh)
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (cF8AT)
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Tami, also:
The Secret Keeper by Trenton Lee Stewart (and also his series The Mysterious Benedict Society)
The Father Brown Reader (adapted from the Father Brown mysteries by Chesterton)
The Secret Keeper by Trenton Lee Stewart (and also his series The Mysterious Benedict Society)
The Father Brown Reader (adapted from the Father Brown mysteries by Chesterton)
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (G546f)
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I'm going to hit the bookstore today to see if I can find some kids books that tell the story of Hannukah. If I find sometihing good will post next Sunday just in time for the start of the holiday. The story is very inspiring where the good guys win. Bonus....they're Jews! Almost as good as the 6 day war outcome.
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:22 AM (QzF6i)
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I'm the one person in the world who hates The Book Thief
bleh
bleh
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)
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The Book Thief is also a fantastic movie, can imagine the book is better.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (ZCEU2)
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110 Hate
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I read it so long ago (50 years) that I don't remember it very well. I do recall thinking some of it was funny & ingenious.
ALH
Your comments about the war are perceptive.
You give the Republic more credit for potential success than I would. There's a lot to be said for controlling the agricultural part of Spain, & having Salazar's Portugal at Franco's back was a YUUGE plus.
But I agree about morale.
Insom never emailed me, not that I had anything much to offer. I think he protests too much. I always return to the essential fact that he's a licensed atty.
It offends the natural order of the cosmos for such a person to be under long-term duress.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I read it so long ago (50 years) that I don't remember it very well. I do recall thinking some of it was funny & ingenious.
ALH
Your comments about the war are perceptive.
You give the Republic more credit for potential success than I would. There's a lot to be said for controlling the agricultural part of Spain, & having Salazar's Portugal at Franco's back was a YUUGE plus.
But I agree about morale.
Insom never emailed me, not that I had anything much to offer. I think he protests too much. I always return to the essential fact that he's a licensed atty.
It offends the natural order of the cosmos for such a person to be under long-term duress.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 10:24 AM (Cssks)
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I know this is O/T, but I missed Ace's thread about "two-hit wonders" the other day. I can only think of two:
The Royal Guardsmen - "Snoopy vs the Red Baron" and "Snoopy's Christmas"
and Jose Feliciano - "Feliz Navidad" and his cover of "Light My Fire."
The Royal Guardsmen - "Snoopy vs the Red Baron" and "Snoopy's Christmas"
and Jose Feliciano - "Feliz Navidad" and his cover of "Light My Fire."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:24 AM (Ki5SV)
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Honesty is such a lonely word. Everyone is so untrue.
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (EgshT)
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Good morning,
I took older grandson out for breakfast (little one has swimming lessons), and we did some shopping for a basketball hoop.
Last night, I bought the collected works of GK Chesterton for kindle. Husband was watching the Father Brown mysteries, and I can't imagine GK spent so much time worried about transvestites. I thought I'd read a few.
I took older grandson out for breakfast (little one has swimming lessons), and we did some shopping for a basketball hoop.
Last night, I bought the collected works of GK Chesterton for kindle. Husband was watching the Father Brown mysteries, and I can't imagine GK spent so much time worried about transvestites. I thought I'd read a few.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (U7k5w)
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If you want more contemporary YA stuff, I highly recommend the Shadow and Bone series by Leigh Bardugo. These are more fantasy though and are basically updated Russian fairy tales.
==
KTY is crazy about these
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KTY is crazy about these
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (G546f)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
The Egg and I by Betty MacDonald
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
The Egg and I by Betty MacDonald
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (1glZx)
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Those snippets from "Bored of the Rings" make my day. Please don't stop.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (H8QX8)
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Jeroboam was a Bullfrog was a good (hic) friend of mine till all the bubbly disappeared......we needs bigger bottles.
Jeroboam was a Bullfrog was a good (hic) friend of mine till all the bubbly disappeared......we needs bigger bottles.
Posted by: saf at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (Cssks)
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Charlaine Harris's Aurora Teagarden series would work for a 13 yr old. Mystery with some humor. Also, main character is very short so is sometimes not taken seriously. (being 5 ft tall, I related). She works in a library and is in a book club that solves mysteries. Perfect, right?
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (QzF6i)
Oh yes, those are good.
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:15 AM (QzF6i)
Oh yes, those are good.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:26 AM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:27 AM (G546f)
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142 vmom
Haha, that's ok.
I'm the only one who hates Jane Eyre, I think. I've never been able to finish it.
Haha, that's ok.
I'm the only one who hates Jane Eyre, I think. I've never been able to finish it.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (OX9vb)
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I'm the one person in the world who hates The Book Thief
bleh
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)
*raises hand* I loathe that book.
bleh
Posted by: vmom planning her campaign platform at December 15, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)
*raises hand* I loathe that book.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (GbPPJ)
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Then from the moor, beneath misty crags,
Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing
Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
Pfft. Lotus 7.
The perfect car for Number Six to drive.
Bearing God's wrath, Grendel came blazing
Forth in a 1970 Dodge Charger
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Living the Good Life in the Off-World Colonies at December 15, 2019 09:52 AM (vhcul)
Pfft. Lotus 7.
The perfect car for Number Six to drive.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (1glZx)
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I would keep 13 year old girls away from the likes of
Carl v. Clauswitz.
Carl v. Clauswitz.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (ZCEU2)
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Charlaine Harris always has some questionable sex scenes though, just a warning if it's for a young teen
Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)
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"I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl."
You might try the Artemis Fowl series by Eoin Colfer. About a 12 year old world class master criminal with a huge hulking Butler named Butler.
Semi-harry potter, but more humorous and less up their own backside.
First book is called Artemis Fowl.
Hope this helps.
You might try the Artemis Fowl series by Eoin Colfer. About a 12 year old world class master criminal with a huge hulking Butler named Butler.
Semi-harry potter, but more humorous and less up their own backside.
First book is called Artemis Fowl.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: Boxx Culvert, Man about Town at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (wmfhQ)
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April, concur on the book thief. I'm neither female nor 13 (29, after all), but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think it was an assigned reading for Red,Jr., in HS, and he held onto his copy.
Neither mystery, nor funny, but intensely personal and captivating. Hard to believe, since it's a girl's-eye view of WW II civilian Germany.
Neither mystery, nor funny, but intensely personal and captivating. Hard to believe, since it's a girl's-eye view of WW II civilian Germany.
Posted by: RI Red at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (cM3jS)
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Alex and votermom - either of you seen the Book Thief movie?
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (ZCEU2)
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As I noted here previously, a couple of years ago I did a major culling of the collection, getting rid of all the military history/weapons books that I knew had bogus data or outdated information. That opened up a lot of space. (I did keep a few that had sentimental value, like "Weapons and Warfare of the 20th Century" which was gift from my grandmother.)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)
It is hard to cut down the library. My husband is a retired accounting professor (15 years at MSU), and had more journals and texts than he would ever use again. We donated some to interested libraries, and disposed of some others.
Oddly, when I was at a recent auction, a large box of accounting texts brought a few hundred dollars. I'm still glad they're gone. Now to reduce the supply of old cassettes. I can't believe he still has those.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)
It is hard to cut down the library. My husband is a retired accounting professor (15 years at MSU), and had more journals and texts than he would ever use again. We donated some to interested libraries, and disposed of some others.
Oddly, when I was at a recent auction, a large box of accounting texts brought a few hundred dollars. I'm still glad they're gone. Now to reduce the supply of old cassettes. I can't believe he still has those.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (U7k5w)
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159 I'm pretty sure that the Aurora Teagarden series is pretty tame. Not anythign like her vampire books which I read for the sex scenes.
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 10:31 AM (QzF6i)
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On the"everything old is new again" theme regarding cancel culture, I'm still reading Douglas Murray's "Madness of Crowds." There's not much new there, in the way of themes or examples, but he writes with a tightness that keeps the topics crisp and clear.
Bottom line: We're living in an age of intellectual darkness, where fear dictates who can say what, and the orthodoxy is being fiercely enforced... even while said orthodoxy changes almost daily.
Bottom line: We're living in an age of intellectual darkness, where fear dictates who can say what, and the orthodoxy is being fiercely enforced... even while said orthodoxy changes almost daily.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:32 AM (hku12)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
The Egg and I by Betty MacDonald
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (1glZx)
I second that, though I wonder about any modern 13 year old being able to appreciate it. In that vein, I'd recommend Rosemary Taylor's Chicken Every Sunday:
https://tinyurl.com/vdyowwh
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
The Egg and I by Betty MacDonald
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:25 AM (1glZx)
I second that, though I wonder about any modern 13 year old being able to appreciate it. In that vein, I'd recommend Rosemary Taylor's Chicken Every Sunday:
https://tinyurl.com/vdyowwh
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:33 AM (Ki5SV)
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It's from the eyes of a young teenage girl during Germany WWII but Innocence Lost while eye opening doesn't end well until the very end.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:33 AM (ZCEU2)
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@Tami - Someone may have suggested this already, but I'd recommend the Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie series. They're mysteries set in England and the protagonist is a sassy young girl. They're told from her point of view and she is very funny.
Posted by: Biancaneve at December 15, 2019 10:34 AM (cyKMU)
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Pratchett's Tiffany Aching series is good for younger teens.
My youngest kidlet really liked the first five or so books of the Butcher Chicago Wizard series at that age.
Anything by Sachar, and the Wayside School books.
My youngest kidlet really liked the first five or so books of the Butcher Chicago Wizard series at that age.
Anything by Sachar, and the Wayside School books.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 10:34 AM (MIKMs)
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Charlaine Harris always has some questionable sex scenes though, just a warning if it's for a young teen
Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)
Yeah, I read a lot, I mean a lot, of YA stuff but it's mostly supernatural/fantasy and I'm trying to remember what has sex and violence that would not be 13 yo appropriate.
Take the Beautiful Creatures series. Pretty much classic Southern Gothic tale but I'm not too sure it's 13 yo appropriate.
Dick Francis is great for mysteries, also horses, but I think that would be just a bit outside a 13 yo range.
Oh! The Holes series by Louis Sachar.
STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING BY JOHN GREEN
Not even interpretative dance can express the utter loathing I have for John Green and his works. I find everything he does to be utterly poisonous, the more so because his books are presented as being oh so deep and profound. They are not. At all.
Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 10:29 AM (G546f)
Yeah, I read a lot, I mean a lot, of YA stuff but it's mostly supernatural/fantasy and I'm trying to remember what has sex and violence that would not be 13 yo appropriate.
Take the Beautiful Creatures series. Pretty much classic Southern Gothic tale but I'm not too sure it's 13 yo appropriate.
Dick Francis is great for mysteries, also horses, but I think that would be just a bit outside a 13 yo range.
Oh! The Holes series by Louis Sachar.
STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING BY JOHN GREEN
Not even interpretative dance can express the utter loathing I have for John Green and his works. I find everything he does to be utterly poisonous, the more so because his books are presented as being oh so deep and profound. They are not. At all.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:37 AM (GbPPJ)
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I can't even remember what I was reading as a 13yo. I'm pretty sure that's about when I read The Exorcist, and that was a gripping terror of a mistake.
But I've always read a lot of memoirs. And I wanted to be a comedienne. I read books by and/or about Erma Bombeck, Carol Burnette, Phyllis Diller and the like. Today's girls would probably not be interested.
But I've always read a lot of memoirs. And I wanted to be a comedienne. I read books by and/or about Erma Bombeck, Carol Burnette, Phyllis Diller and the like. Today's girls would probably not be interested.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:37 AM (OX9vb)
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In Nabokov's biography he's just left Germany for the last time figuring the massive shitstorm will only get worse. He's trying for teaching gigs in the US even though he's well regarded in France. He's decided his future is writing in English but is pissed off that in the UK his works are published by an inappropriate publisher, like Anna Karenina as a Harlequin romance I guess. While in Paris some hawt divorcé was attracted to Vlad with Vera still back home. I don't know if they ever hid the salami, and even though this isn't an *official* biography Vera gave the writer access to anything he wanted, but Vlad acted nervous and guilty while there.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (y7DUB)
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I have started reading The Man From The Train: Discovering America's Most Elusive Serial Killer by Bill James, who, as the rear flap tells us, is the creator of the Baseball Abstracts and is, during the day, the Senior Advisor on Baseball Operations for the Red Sox.
Apparently, if you are from Iowa (which I am not), you know about the murder of the Moore family in Villisca in 1912. James' book connects that crime to others pre- and post-1912 and builds a case for them all having been committed by a train-riding ax murderer.
It's quite a read, if true crime interests you.
https://tinyurl.com/ubysw5b
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)
Oh hell yes!
He's always been a first rate writer, above and beyond all the geek baseball stuff. The Iowa story in particular, it's probably the most interesting episode in the whole book, for how James teases out the aftermath of the murders.
And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.
Apparently, if you are from Iowa (which I am not), you know about the murder of the Moore family in Villisca in 1912. James' book connects that crime to others pre- and post-1912 and builds a case for them all having been committed by a train-riding ax murderer.
It's quite a read, if true crime interests you.
https://tinyurl.com/ubysw5b
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:18 AM (Ki5SV)
Oh hell yes!
He's always been a first rate writer, above and beyond all the geek baseball stuff. The Iowa story in particular, it's probably the most interesting episode in the whole book, for how James teases out the aftermath of the murders.
And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)
174
It is hard to cut down the library. My husband is a
retired accounting professor (15 years at MSU), and had more journals
and texts than he would ever use again. We donated some to interested
libraries, and disposed of some others.
Oddly, when I was at a recent auction, a large box of accounting
texts brought a few hundred dollars. I'm still glad they're gone. Now to
reduce the supply of old cassettes. I can't believe he still has those.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (U7k5w)
---
There seem to be two approaches to it.
My wife tries to do the all-in-one-day thing, which can clear out a lot of stuff, but sometimes you get rid of stuff you didn't mean to in the frenzy.
I prefer a more gradual process, where I go through now and then and say "Gee, do I really need this?"
After a health scare, a friend of mine told his elderly father than he had to clean out the house because at some point he would have to go into assisted living. The solution they had was every month he would remove a single, small box of stuff and give it to his kids.
It took years, but it got done. I try to do that for my dad. He has told me I can take books I like with me, so I do that as well.
retired accounting professor (15 years at MSU), and had more journals
and texts than he would ever use again. We donated some to interested
libraries, and disposed of some others.
Oddly, when I was at a recent auction, a large box of accounting
texts brought a few hundred dollars. I'm still glad they're gone. Now to
reduce the supply of old cassettes. I can't believe he still has those.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:30 AM (U7k5w)
---
There seem to be two approaches to it.
My wife tries to do the all-in-one-day thing, which can clear out a lot of stuff, but sometimes you get rid of stuff you didn't mean to in the frenzy.
I prefer a more gradual process, where I go through now and then and say "Gee, do I really need this?"
After a health scare, a friend of mine told his elderly father than he had to clean out the house because at some point he would have to go into assisted living. The solution they had was every month he would remove a single, small box of stuff and give it to his kids.
It took years, but it got done. I try to do that for my dad. He has told me I can take books I like with me, so I do that as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)
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*raises hand* I loathe that book.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (GbPPJ)
I'm another non-fan. I tried reading this when it was so popular (a gift from a colleague who decided that I would love it), but I didn't. May be I'm too old.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:28 AM (GbPPJ)
I'm another non-fan. I tried reading this when it was so popular (a gift from a colleague who decided that I would love it), but I didn't. May be I'm too old.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:40 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (OX9vb)
177
Get the reading in now before she hits HS and develops a loathing for reading.
Cornelia Funke is good and there is a James Patterson branded series for YA that my kids enjoyed at that age.
Cornelia Funke is good and there is a James Patterson branded series for YA that my kids enjoyed at that age.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (MIKMs)
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And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)
Just like the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)
Just like the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)
179
So yeah, have your teenage girls read about axe murders or the insanity of modern living.
Probably better for them than whatever crep passes for young fiction. The real world ain't pretty, kids.
Probably better for them than whatever crep passes for young fiction. The real world ain't pretty, kids.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (hku12)
180
It took years, but it got done. I try to do that for my dad. He has told me I can take books I like with me, so I do that as well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)
This sounds sensible for may things. But for 50 years of journals, we opted for the quicker approach.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)
This sounds sensible for may things. But for 50 years of journals, we opted for the quicker approach.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)
182
174 It is hard to cut down the library.
I'm ruthless. If it's not a prized book I have re-read and probably will again or a gift from a family member I donate it to the local library.
I'm ruthless. If it's not a prized book I have re-read and probably will again or a gift from a family member I donate it to the local library.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (H8QX8)
183
OT- not book related at all.
Hint- You can't take it with you in the end. Someone will clean up your mess eventually.
Hint- You can't take it with you in the end. Someone will clean up your mess eventually.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (0OmEj)
184
I love the paintings OM includes each week. They are so pleasant. I can always use pleasant.
Posted by: JTB at December 15, 2019 10:44 AM (7EjX1)
185
Used in a sentence:
The Left hates you and wants you ostracized ... like Socrates.
OR
Ostracized? You mean, like, someone with their head up their ass?
The Left hates you and wants you ostracized ... like Socrates.
OR
Ostracized? You mean, like, someone with their head up their ass?
Posted by: ShainS at December 15, 2019 10:45 AM (WqPYg)
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And now, a century later, the house is a tourist attraction, where guests can stay... if they want a cheesy ghost adventure.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)
Just like the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)
Funny thing is, after reading James' version of these events, I've looked for info elsewhere, and there are people who swear one of the two men who were accused of those murders must have done it.
Come on, people. There was zero evidence for either of them, but the rogues who controlled the town and/or the psychopath they let run the investigation, had everyone acting like insane lunatics, looking for a simple solution.
Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:39 AM (hku12)
Just like the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)
Funny thing is, after reading James' version of these events, I've looked for info elsewhere, and there are people who swear one of the two men who were accused of those murders must have done it.
Come on, people. There was zero evidence for either of them, but the rogues who controlled the town and/or the psychopath they let run the investigation, had everyone acting like insane lunatics, looking for a simple solution.
Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
187
*smishes MP4 back*
ATC, I've never read anything by John Green. Sounds like I haven't missed anything.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (OX9vb)
He can tell a story and he's a good writer. My major issue with him is that the books are all basically look at grand and dramatic suicide and/or dying young of disease is and it's pitched at an audience who will take the wrong message from that. Green is far too smart to not know exactly what he is doing. I find it appalling.
ATC, I've never read anything by John Green. Sounds like I haven't missed anything.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 10:41 AM (OX9vb)
He can tell a story and he's a good writer. My major issue with him is that the books are all basically look at grand and dramatic suicide and/or dying young of disease is and it's pitched at an audience who will take the wrong message from that. Green is far too smart to not know exactly what he is doing. I find it appalling.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (GbPPJ)
188
I went to a bookstore yesterday, I wanted to go there, and my GF wanted to go to the nearby Thai restaurant.
I picked up another Manning Coles detective novel Night Train to Paris, a Del Rey anthology of Erick Frank Russell, a history of the Heppner, Oregon flood in 1903, Rothbard's History of Banking in the United States, and books on dyeing fiber, and screen printing.
bookstore staff, bless them, they will look at your books and, unlike normal people, just figure you bought them because you are interested in all those things.
I picked up another Manning Coles detective novel Night Train to Paris, a Del Rey anthology of Erick Frank Russell, a history of the Heppner, Oregon flood in 1903, Rothbard's History of Banking in the United States, and books on dyeing fiber, and screen printing.
bookstore staff, bless them, they will look at your books and, unlike normal people, just figure you bought them because you are interested in all those things.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (1glZx)
189
Hate
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I read it so long ago (50 years) that I don't remember it very well. I do recall thinking some of it was funny & ingenious.
That's fine. I'm just glad someone here even knows about it so I'm just not ranting to myself. Again.
Btw, I might not comment here next weekend because my house will be overly full with children and grandchildren and my time and property will not be my own. If I show up here it will be because I've given them the traditional Christmas greeting of "fuck off" and run away from home.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I read it so long ago (50 years) that I don't remember it very well. I do recall thinking some of it was funny & ingenious.
That's fine. I'm just glad someone here even knows about it so I'm just not ranting to myself. Again.
Btw, I might not comment here next weekend because my house will be overly full with children and grandchildren and my time and property will not be my own. If I show up here it will be because I've given them the traditional Christmas greeting of "fuck off" and run away from home.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:48 AM (y7DUB)
190
( hoping CBD isn't around)
I much prefer classical paintings, there is so much detail to see and figure out why it's there or has to do with the subject.
I much prefer classical paintings, there is so much detail to see and figure out why it's there or has to do with the subject.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 10:48 AM (ZCEU2)
191
I'm ruthless. If it's not a prized book I have re-read and probably will again or a gift from a family member I donate it to the local library.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (H8QX
I'm not a fiction collector, so I don't have that component to worry about. I did save most of the children's lit I bought decades ago, and I'm glad I did. It's higher quality than the stuff today. An older copy of the same book usually has better quality binding, paper, and even illustrations.
I did donate a large chunk of my cull to the library for the annual sale. Some of the accounting texts went on the first day. When I was in school, I quickly discovered that faculty often taught from older books, while assigning new ones. A trip to office hours always helps you find the real source of their lectures.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (H8QX
I'm not a fiction collector, so I don't have that component to worry about. I did save most of the children's lit I bought decades ago, and I'm glad I did. It's higher quality than the stuff today. An older copy of the same book usually has better quality binding, paper, and even illustrations.
I did donate a large chunk of my cull to the library for the annual sale. Some of the accounting texts went on the first day. When I was in school, I quickly discovered that faculty often taught from older books, while assigning new ones. A trip to office hours always helps you find the real source of their lectures.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (U7k5w)
192
OT: Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
193
I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)
194
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 10:42 AM (Ki5SV)
Funny thing is, after reading James' version of these events, I've looked for info elsewhere, and there are people who swear one of the two men who were accused of those murders must have done it.
Come on, people. There was zero evidence for either of them, but the rogues who controlled the town and/or the psychopath they let run the investigation, had everyone acting like insane lunatics, looking for a simple solution.
Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.
Funny thing is, after reading James' version of these events, I've looked for info elsewhere, and there are people who swear one of the two men who were accused of those murders must have done it.
Come on, people. There was zero evidence for either of them, but the rogues who controlled the town and/or the psychopath they let run the investigation, had everyone acting like insane lunatics, looking for a simple solution.
Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)
195
It occurs to me that the majority of Hanukkah stories I can think about (other than retellings of the actual miracle of the lamp itself) are about people celebrating Hanukkah, rather than fantasies.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (urZJh)
196
Has anyone tried for the Who Dis? She looks like some ex-wife of a Beatle, so Jane Asher? Patti Boyd?
Has anyone tried for the Who Dis? She looks like some ex-wife of a Beatle, so Jane Asher? Patti Boyd?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (W04rT)
197
I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)
Yeah I'm wondering about that myself. Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #242 clearly states - More is good, All is better.
I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)
Yeah I'm wondering about that myself. Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #242 clearly states - More is good, All is better.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (9Om/r)
198
Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
Holy shit that looks brutal.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
Holy shit that looks brutal.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (y7DUB)
199
193 I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)
As people who are much, much older than 29, it becomes almost a necessity to move things on.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:52 AM (GbPPJ)
As people who are much, much older than 29, it becomes almost a necessity to move things on.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (U7k5w)
200
196: Tis Asher, IMO
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:56 AM (U7k5w)
201
Heh I was.not aware of Pressfield's latest book. I will spend the money to buy it now. It is a theme outside of his wheelhouse though he has written a couple of other non - ancient military books. Legend of Bagger Vance being the most popular one. What he does include in all his books is the military mindset of valor and honor and focus while under pressure of life or death.
Posted by: Easy Andy at December 15, 2019 10:56 AM (2DOZq)
202
OT: Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
Okay, I'm confused by that story.
Is the DNA evidence gone or contaminated so it can't be tested?
Because they way it reads, the potential DNA evidence exists, and can be tested, but hasn't been/isn't being tested Because Reasons. Okay, there have been enough faulty convictions that gives me pause.
But if he pardons the guy before the testing, then it turns out the guy is the one who did it, then the guy cannot be charged again, what with double jeopardy.
It seems a bit much to pardon, not just commute, without a definitive answer on the DNA.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
Okay, I'm confused by that story.
Is the DNA evidence gone or contaminated so it can't be tested?
Because they way it reads, the potential DNA evidence exists, and can be tested, but hasn't been/isn't being tested Because Reasons. Okay, there have been enough faulty convictions that gives me pause.
But if he pardons the guy before the testing, then it turns out the guy is the one who did it, then the guy cannot be charged again, what with double jeopardy.
It seems a bit much to pardon, not just commute, without a definitive answer on the DNA.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 15, 2019 10:57 AM (GbPPJ)
203
I do not understand those words in that order for all of you people discussing getting rid of books.
Posted by: alexthechick
My local Post Office used to do a book swap/drop-off.
Awhile ago, I picked up a copy of the Koran at a storage auction.
I wanted to read it, but it was written in Jabibese, so I was gonna drop it off at the PO.
Then I remembered that they have cameras there and I didn't want to be a suspected terrorist, so it got ummmmmm...... lost.
Posted by: alexthechick
My local Post Office used to do a book swap/drop-off.
Awhile ago, I picked up a copy of the Koran at a storage auction.
I wanted to read it, but it was written in Jabibese, so I was gonna drop it off at the PO.
Then I remembered that they have cameras there and I didn't want to be a suspected terrorist, so it got ummmmmm...... lost.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:58 AM (arJlL)
204
OT- not book related at all.
Hint- You can't take it with you in the end. Someone will clean up your mess eventually.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (0OmEj)
Sez you. I personally am requesting bids for a pyramid and about 5 cubic yards of Natron salts.
Hint- You can't take it with you in the end. Someone will clean up your mess eventually.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 15, 2019 10:43 AM (0OmEj)
Sez you. I personally am requesting bids for a pyramid and about 5 cubic yards of Natron salts.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (1glZx)
205
I looked at the website for King's College. It looked like a classical curriculum, but the website was pretty incomplete.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (U7k5w)
206
OT: Matt Bevan goes out with a bang.
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive, soulless prick.
In fact.....
https://bit.ly/2EkMT77
He'll teach those badtards to not vote for him.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive, soulless prick.
In fact.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)
207
Sez you. I personally am requesting bids for a pyramid and about 5 cubic yards of Natron salts.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (1glZx)
This person gets it!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:00 AM (1glZx)
This person gets it!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (9Om/r)
208
Trump has a galactic-sized ego. This was once a character flaw, but tempered with time and some wisdom, and hitched to a higher calling, it's now a ginormous asset
Trump wants to go down as the most momentous POTUS ever. He wants Impeachment and a reality TV Senate trial, and vindication in a landslide re-election
He'll be unleashed in a second term
Trump wants to go down as the most momentous POTUS ever. He wants Impeachment and a reality TV Senate trial, and vindication in a landslide re-election
He'll be unleashed in a second term
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:02 AM (NuJm4)
209
Any way, Chesterton fiction is pretty good so far, and of course it was modernized for the series Prof. N is watching. Still it is one of the few things on TV that doesn't cast traditional people in a bad light. The Colin Dexter adaptations do that.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (U7k5w)
210
My local Post Office used to do a book swap/drop-off.
Awhile ago, I picked up a copy of the Koran at a storage auction.
I wanted to read it, but it was written in Jabibese, so I was gonna drop it off at the PO.
Then I remembered that they have cameras there and I didn't want to be a suspected terrorist, so it got ummmmmm...... lost.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:58 AM (arJlL)
Back in the day I thought Sarah Silverman was funny. And cute.
Then I bought her book.
One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.
Awhile ago, I picked up a copy of the Koran at a storage auction.
I wanted to read it, but it was written in Jabibese, so I was gonna drop it off at the PO.
Then I remembered that they have cameras there and I didn't want to be a suspected terrorist, so it got ummmmmm...... lost.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 10:58 AM (arJlL)
Back in the day I thought Sarah Silverman was funny. And cute.
Then I bought her book.
One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)
211
Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)
I skipped at bit ahead - James does admit that his suspect probably went to NO at some point, but he is certain the man is not The Mysterious Axe Man - of whom a fairly decent book came out a couple of years ago, Miriam Davis' Axeman of New Orleans:
https://tinyurl.com/s33umxx
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)
I skipped at bit ahead - James does admit that his suspect probably went to NO at some point, but he is certain the man is not The Mysterious Axe Man - of whom a fairly decent book came out a couple of years ago, Miriam Davis' Axeman of New Orleans:
https://tinyurl.com/s33umxx
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (Ki5SV)
212
I'm pretty sure the New Orleans axeman was a proto-Mafia operating among the Sicilian immigrants in town. Some guys didn't pay up and got whacked as a message to the rest. Then some joker wrote a letter to the paper claiming he wouldn't strike where a jazz band was playing.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (urZJh)
213
If things were a little different here I would make the coolest little free library you ever saw and put in it books I thought I wouldn't read again.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)
214
203: it can be used as shit paper in a pinch.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (F6S6j)
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One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)
You couldn't return it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)
You couldn't return it.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (U7k5w)
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A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive, soulless prick.
In fact.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)
Few people piss me off as much as the GOP Pom Pom wavers who refuse to understand that we particularly shoved DJT up their monkey asses.
In fact.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)
Few people piss me off as much as the GOP Pom Pom wavers who refuse to understand that we particularly shoved DJT up their monkey asses.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
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If things were a little different here I would make
the coolest little free library you ever saw and put in it books I
thought I wouldn't read again.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)
Once upon a time I printed off the PDF of Hayek's The Road to Serfdom in Cartoons to try to give to a coworkers grandkid as "a coloring book"
I have to print some of those out and salt them into the tiny free libraries around town.
Because I am a giver.
the coolest little free library you ever saw and put in it books I
thought I wouldn't read again.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)
Once upon a time I printed off the PDF of Hayek's The Road to Serfdom in Cartoons to try to give to a coworkers grandkid as "a coloring book"
I have to print some of those out and salt them into the tiny free libraries around town.
Because I am a giver.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)
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Got to watch Maria Bartiromo on Fox today. If you are not infuriated at what the FBI, CIA, DoJ, The Obama Administration and the media did to try and subvert a President of the United States, then you should revoke your citizenship. There is no limit to what these subversive agencies will do to undermine the people's will. Furthermore, the FISA court and its obviously partisan judges should be disbanded. They are nothing but a political device being used by liberals to help with their anti democratic schemes.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (m/eiQ)
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Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)
I can't tell from the reviews...anything in this that isn't appropriate for a 13 yo girl?
And thank you everyone...my amazon cart is loaded!
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 09:51 AM (arJlL)
I can't tell from the reviews...anything in this that isn't appropriate for a 13 yo girl?
And thank you everyone...my amazon cart is loaded!
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (cF8AT)
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I have given up on the DRAGON REPUBLIC, i just can't, the main character I want to see here die.
I have started MISTBORN by BRANDON SANDERSON so far so good, I like how MAGIC is used by using metals. I like the premise where the Hero failed and the Dark Lord wins and reins over Humans.
I would reccomend his other books
Steelheart the RECKONERS series is really good as well where all superpowers are used for evil and Governments have fell because of them, the reckoners go about killing them. If you like THE BOYS on amazon this is much better since it doesn't bash Christians. and it does have some faith that someday Heroes will come.
I have started MISTBORN by BRANDON SANDERSON so far so good, I like how MAGIC is used by using metals. I like the premise where the Hero failed and the Dark Lord wins and reins over Humans.
I would reccomend his other books
Steelheart the RECKONERS series is really good as well where all superpowers are used for evil and Governments have fell because of them, the reckoners go about killing them. If you like THE BOYS on amazon this is much better since it doesn't bash Christians. and it does have some faith that someday Heroes will come.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (B3b/D)
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I have to print some of those out and salt them into the tiny free libraries around town.
Because I am a giver.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)
Fun idea
Because I am a giver.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)
Fun idea
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (U7k5w)
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Oh, and if you haven't gotten to it yet, there's a part about the infamous axe murderer of New Orleans in the book, and I'm trying to remember the details now, but I think OUR axe murderer blew into town, or into the area at some point and threw some confusion into that one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)
I skipped at bit ahead - James does admit that his suspect probably went to NO at some point, but he is certain the man is not The Mysterious Axe Man - of whom a fairly decent book came out a couple of years ago, Miriam Davis' Axeman of New Orleans:
https://tinyurl.com/s33umxx
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (Ki5SV)
One of the crucial takeaways from all this is that police have been bungling murder "investigations" for a long long time, and the illusion that there are a bunch of Sherlock Holmes and Columbos running around solving murders is basically, bullship.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:53 AM (hku12)
I skipped at bit ahead - James does admit that his suspect probably went to NO at some point, but he is certain the man is not The Mysterious Axe Man - of whom a fairly decent book came out a couple of years ago, Miriam Davis' Axeman of New Orleans:
https://tinyurl.com/s33umxx
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (Ki5SV)
One of the crucial takeaways from all this is that police have been bungling murder "investigations" for a long long time, and the illusion that there are a bunch of Sherlock Holmes and Columbos running around solving murders is basically, bullship.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM (hku12)
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I used to have a very large book collection which covered a shelf running the circumference of the our finished basement. My sons and I read a lot of the same science fiction and history anad so most had been read at least a couple of times. My late husband decided to meticulously box all of them and each box had a computerized record of what was in each box. He did not understand my extreme displeasure at what he had done. Thought he was doing me a favor by conputerizing everything that we had read and cleaning up. Needless to say, those books never came out of the boxes but at least eventually got donated so they could be read again.
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM (QzF6i)
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I'm pretty sure the New Orleans axeman was a proto-Mafia operating among the Sicilian immigrants in town. Some guys didn't pay up and got whacked as a message to the rest. Then some joker wrote a letter to the paper claiming he wouldn't strike where a jazz band was playing.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (urZJh)
And New Orleans being New Orleans, they turned the thing in to one great big party.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:04 AM (urZJh)
And New Orleans being New Orleans, they turned the thing in to one great big party.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (hku12)
225
213 - That shouldn't stop me from making one
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (ZCEU2)
226
OK, it's been a nice hour, but I think I will make a cup of tea and read some more of James' book.
Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (Ki5SV)
227
My 14 year old granddaughter recommends Phillip Pullman's Sally Lockhart series.
Posted by: parker at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM (mmH7U)
228
One of the only times in my life I threw a book in the trash. Gleefully so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)
You couldn't return it.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (U7k5w)
Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:03 AM (hku12)
You couldn't return it.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:05 AM (U7k5w)
Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM (hku12)
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I'm outta here too. Got to get to the bookstore before the Pat's game. Going to make some chili this afternoon.
Posted by: sharon at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (QzF6i)
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225 213 - That shouldn't stop me from making one
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (ZCEU2)
No, it shouldn't. It might catch on. Most libraries of this nature (not government run) are for kids.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:12 AM (ZCEU2)
No, it shouldn't. It might catch on. Most libraries of this nature (not government run) are for kids.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (U7k5w)
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Trump has a galactic-sized ego. This was once a character flaw, but tempered with time and some wisdom, and hitched to a higher calling, it's now a ginormous asset
Trump wants to go down as the most momentous POTUS ever. He wants Impeachment and a reality TV Senate trial, and vindication in a landslide re-election
He'll be unleashed in a second term
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:02 AM (NuJm4)
I've watched many interviews he did in the 80's and 90's. The astonishing thing is that he was saying the exact same things then as he says now. He is definitely not a reed blowing in the wind.
Trump wants to go down as the most momentous POTUS ever. He wants Impeachment and a reality TV Senate trial, and vindication in a landslide re-election
He'll be unleashed in a second term
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:02 AM (NuJm4)
I've watched many interviews he did in the 80's and 90's. The astonishing thing is that he was saying the exact same things then as he says now. He is definitely not a reed blowing in the wind.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (aS1PU)
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A reminder, if anyone needs one, just because a guy
has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive,
soulless prick.
In fact.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)
---
I remember the concern trolls flooding the comments here and trying to tie Bevan to Trump.
Uh, no. Bevan was hugely unpopular and Trump almost saved his sorry ass.
The rest of Kentucky went deep, deep red.
Same with LA governor. Guy's a pro-life Dem. Talk about a rara avis.
It's almost like there's a huge (yuge?) market for socially conservative but economically liberal politics that puts the working class' welfare front and center.
The "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" thing is a very narrow segment when you stop to count the votes, especially since "fiscally conservative" in practice means "Whatever the Chamber of Commerce/Mega-corporations want."
has an R behind his name, doesn't mean he's not a petty, vindictive,
soulless prick.
In fact.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:01 AM (hku12)
---
I remember the concern trolls flooding the comments here and trying to tie Bevan to Trump.
Uh, no. Bevan was hugely unpopular and Trump almost saved his sorry ass.
The rest of Kentucky went deep, deep red.
Same with LA governor. Guy's a pro-life Dem. Talk about a rara avis.
It's almost like there's a huge (yuge?) market for socially conservative but economically liberal politics that puts the working class' welfare front and center.
The "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" thing is a very narrow segment when you stop to count the votes, especially since "fiscally conservative" in practice means "Whatever the Chamber of Commerce/Mega-corporations want."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)
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"The Colin Dexter adaptations do that."
I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.
I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)
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Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM
For my money, I like thinking the author does not benefit from returns.
Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM
For my money, I like thinking the author does not benefit from returns.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)
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Chuck Todd now looking for an exit ramp from Impeachment, using a panel of ordinary people in MI. Media will want to drop this story after Nancy makes her caucus drink the Kool Aid vat so lethal
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (NuJm4)
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217 Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:09 AM (1glZx)
Is that a thing? Do you have a link? I'd be happy to do likewise.
Is that a thing? Do you have a link? I'd be happy to do likewise.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:16 AM (OX9vb)
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I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)
About time.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)
About time.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (U7k5w)
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Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think he's pretty family-friendly.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)
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Rant, Chapter Two
Mukasey, no stranger to the law, noted this morning that Congressional subpoena power under Title 18 does NOT cover phone records and that Congress does NOT have that power. Ergo Schiff's request was in criminal violation of the statute and his release of those records was likely also criminal. By the way, so was the phone companies actually responding to those subpoenas, which they did willfully and which any decent corporate privacy lawyer would deny.
Remember it's not just the abuse of power. It's auspices like phone companies and the media who use requests to satisfy things or stories they are already predispose to.
If they can do this to a sitting U.S. President, imagine what they can do to you.
Mukasey, no stranger to the law, noted this morning that Congressional subpoena power under Title 18 does NOT cover phone records and that Congress does NOT have that power. Ergo Schiff's request was in criminal violation of the statute and his release of those records was likely also criminal. By the way, so was the phone companies actually responding to those subpoenas, which they did willfully and which any decent corporate privacy lawyer would deny.
Remember it's not just the abuse of power. It's auspices like phone companies and the media who use requests to satisfy things or stories they are already predispose to.
If they can do this to a sitting U.S. President, imagine what they can do to you.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (m/eiQ)
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If you like THE BOYS on amazon this is much better since it doesn't bash Christians. and it does have some faith that someday Heroes will come.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (B3b/D)
The Amazon series takes a number of turns differently from the book series, and I'm not sure why.
It's a very different story, in several crucial ways.
I've almost finished the book series, and I think I know where it's going to end, but the tv show, being only one season in, has lots of places it can go, but the cliffhanger is not in the book. The underlying incident is, the reason Butcher is on the path he's on, but the... after effects... not in the book.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 15, 2019 11:10 AM (B3b/D)
The Amazon series takes a number of turns differently from the book series, and I'm not sure why.
It's a very different story, in several crucial ways.
I've almost finished the book series, and I think I know where it's going to end, but the tv show, being only one season in, has lots of places it can go, but the cliffhanger is not in the book. The underlying incident is, the reason Butcher is on the path he's on, but the... after effects... not in the book.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:18 AM (hku12)
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Chuck Todd now looking for an exit ramp from
Impeachment, using a panel of ordinary people in MI. Media will want to
drop this story after Nancy makes her caucus drink the Kool Aid vat so
lethal
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (NuJm4)
---
Freshman MI congresscritter Elissa Slotkin says she'll vote for impeachment even though it will likely cost her re-election.
She ran as a "country before party" centrist and hyped that she worked for both Bush and Obama.
At the CIA.
So yeah, I knew she'd vote to impeach. That was why she ran in the first place.
Impeachment, using a panel of ordinary people in MI. Media will want to
drop this story after Nancy makes her caucus drink the Kool Aid vat so
lethal
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (NuJm4)
---
Freshman MI congresscritter Elissa Slotkin says she'll vote for impeachment even though it will likely cost her re-election.
She ran as a "country before party" centrist and hyped that she worked for both Bush and Obama.
At the CIA.
So yeah, I knew she'd vote to impeach. That was why she ran in the first place.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:19 AM (cfSRQ)
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238 Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think he's pretty family-friendly.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)
Ok, thanks April!
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)
Ok, thanks April!
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 11:21 AM (cF8AT)
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Remember that every single Democrat Party policy requires you to give up liberty, property or freedom in exchange. This is the hallmark of people who want to rule over you life, not govern. It should be punished by banishing these despots from the political arena for a hundred years.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (m/eiQ)
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239: we don't have to imagine. we have seen it for years. you just have to be skeptical of everything your government says and does. i haven't trusted them since high school. (i'm retired, now.)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (KP5rU)
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The "fiscally conservative but socially liberal" thing is a very narrow segment when you stop to count the votes, especially since "fiscally conservative" in practice means "Whatever the Chamber of Commerce/Mega-corporations want."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)
Yep. Big donor Republicans aren't as bad as the shitty shitty Democrats, but that's about the nicest thing I can say about them.
Trump cares about the little guy. No matter what spin the left and the nevertrumpers put on it, they aren't fooling too many people... at least I hope not.
I want the Trump landslide to include lots and lots of data about working class folks of all skin colors and sex habits, voting for him because... why wouldn't they.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)
Yep. Big donor Republicans aren't as bad as the shitty shitty Democrats, but that's about the nicest thing I can say about them.
Trump cares about the little guy. No matter what spin the left and the nevertrumpers put on it, they aren't fooling too many people... at least I hope not.
I want the Trump landslide to include lots and lots of data about working class folks of all skin colors and sex habits, voting for him because... why wouldn't they.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (hku12)
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238
Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I
all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think
he's pretty family-friendly.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)
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When I was in high school, Dave Barry Slept Here - A Sort of History of the United States was THE book.
We quoted it all the time. From memory:
"The US dropped the atomic bomb Hiroshima because we believed only a horrific display of destructive power would convince Japan to surrender.
We bombed Nagasaki because, hey, we had another bomb."
Tami, I don't know about that specific Dave Barry, but my siblings and I
all were reading Dave Barry by the time we were early teens. I think
he's pretty family-friendly.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:17 AM (OX9vb)
---
When I was in high school, Dave Barry Slept Here - A Sort of History of the United States was THE book.
We quoted it all the time. From memory:
"The US dropped the atomic bomb Hiroshima because we believed only a horrific display of destructive power would convince Japan to surrender.
We bombed Nagasaki because, hey, we had another bomb."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)
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131 I have started reading The Man From The Train: Discovering America's Most Elusive Serial Killer by Bill James, who, as the rear flap tells us, is the creator of the Baseball Abstracts and is, during the day, the Senior Advisor on Baseball Operations for the Red Sox.
As discussed on the book thread earlier this year, recommended by 'ette April:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379220
As discussed on the book thread earlier this year, recommended by 'ette April:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379220
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:24 AM (zGtXn)
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"Ergo Schiff's request was in criminal violation of the statute and his release of those records was likely also criminal. By the way, so was the phone companies actually responding to those subpoenas,"
They don't care. No reason they should. Nothing will happen to them.
They don't care. No reason they should. Nothing will happen to them.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:24 AM (H8QX8)
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I think the producers of Endeavor realized the people were sick of them shoving the SJW mantra down their throats, the last season dropped all that garbage and kinda moved back to the original themes of how flawed cops catch the baddies.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)
I hope that's true. Solid crime mysteries, but recent seasons had too much melodrama. I have the most recent season here somewhere. Maybe time to crack it open.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (4thlk)
I hope that's true. Solid crime mysteries, but recent seasons had too much melodrama. I have the most recent season here somewhere. Maybe time to crack it open.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (hku12)
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I've watched many interviews he did in the 80's and 90's. The astonishing thing is that he was saying the exact same things then as he says now. He is definitely not a reed blowing in the wind.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (aS1PU)
It's pretty astonishing. There may be no figure in American politics who has been so consistently, rationally and boldly pro-American over the years.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 15, 2019 11:14 AM (aS1PU)
It's pretty astonishing. There may be no figure in American politics who has been so consistently, rationally and boldly pro-American over the years.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (H8QX8)
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Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
You could do that a lot easier back in 1912, avoiding prosecution by fleeing to another state. Back then, states were more actual states and not mere administrative units of the federal government.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
You could do that a lot easier back in 1912, avoiding prosecution by fleeing to another state. Back then, states were more actual states and not mere administrative units of the federal government.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (zGtXn)
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Heh I was.not aware of Pressfield's latest book. I will spend the money to buy it now. It is a theme outside of his wheelhouse though he has written a couple of other non - ancient military books. Legend of Bagger Vance being the most popular one. What he does include in all his books is the military mindset of valor and honor and focus while under pressure of life or death.
Posted by: Easy Andy
"The Afghan Campaign", Alexander and his army in Scythia, aka Afghanistan. It ends badly
"The Virtues of War", Alexander and his army against the world. Some of his generals get tired of the war and fall away.
"Gates of Fire", the Spartans at Thermopylae
"Tides of War"; The Peloponesian War, told first person as a reminiscence, as the soldier is about to be executed for assasinating Alcibiades, whom he was ordered to kill. This book actually helped me understand the almost incomprehensible Peloponesion War.
"Killing Rommel", a fast paced and short novel about the British Long Range Desert Group.
"The Profession"; a future fiction that is now unlikely to take place, but is a fun read. Trump-CNN was in this future. Heh.
"The Lion's Gate"; a kind of narrative interview history of the Six Day War in 1967. I read it along with "Six Days of War", by David Oren, and that allowed me to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
"Six Days of War" is a serious history, and is a very good book to read about the 1967 Arab - Israeli War.
Posted by: Easy Andy
"The Afghan Campaign", Alexander and his army in Scythia, aka Afghanistan. It ends badly
"The Virtues of War", Alexander and his army against the world. Some of his generals get tired of the war and fall away.
"Gates of Fire", the Spartans at Thermopylae
"Tides of War"; The Peloponesian War, told first person as a reminiscence, as the soldier is about to be executed for assasinating Alcibiades, whom he was ordered to kill. This book actually helped me understand the almost incomprehensible Peloponesion War.
"Killing Rommel", a fast paced and short novel about the British Long Range Desert Group.
"The Profession"; a future fiction that is now unlikely to take place, but is a fun read. Trump-CNN was in this future. Heh.
"The Lion's Gate"; a kind of narrative interview history of the Six Day War in 1967. I read it along with "Six Days of War", by David Oren, and that allowed me to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
"Six Days of War" is a serious history, and is a very good book to read about the 1967 Arab - Israeli War.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....not a Russian agent...yet at December 15, 2019 11:27 AM (bFkYZ)
253
The targets of Schiffs illegal phone records request are now working on legal options. That includes Giuliani and Nunes. They won't be letting that go unanswered.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:27 AM (m/eiQ)
254
I second the rec for the Sally Lockhart mysteries and for Cornelia Funke
Posted by: vmom and the book thief haters club at December 15, 2019 11:28 AM (G546f)
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One of the crucial takeaways from all this is that police have been bungling murder "investigations" for a long long time, and the illusion that there are a bunch of Sherlock Holmes and Columbos running around solving murders is basically, bullship.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM
To be fair, most murders are normal. The killer and victim know each other. The killer has some reason for the killing, no matter how stupid to anyone else. You can start interviewing friends and acquaintances of the victim and eventually the killer's name will be mentioned. Sometimes, the killer will feel remorse/guilt and will be acting differently, or leave the area.
A murder by a serial killer is entirely different. The killer and victim do not know each other. The victim may be an easy victim (hobo, prostitute, runaway) and their absence may not be noticed.
And would anyone have read Sherlock Holmes if every story was 1) Joe killed his wife because he found her messing around with another man. 2) Tony killed Frank because they both were drunk and Frank ate the turkey leg.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:11 AM
To be fair, most murders are normal. The killer and victim know each other. The killer has some reason for the killing, no matter how stupid to anyone else. You can start interviewing friends and acquaintances of the victim and eventually the killer's name will be mentioned. Sometimes, the killer will feel remorse/guilt and will be acting differently, or leave the area.
A murder by a serial killer is entirely different. The killer and victim do not know each other. The victim may be an easy victim (hobo, prostitute, runaway) and their absence may not be noticed.
And would anyone have read Sherlock Holmes if every story was 1) Joe killed his wife because he found her messing around with another man. 2) Tony killed Frank because they both were drunk and Frank ate the turkey leg.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 11:29 AM (r6GXX)
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Why would I. Not worth the effort. The trash can was RIGHT THERE, and that's where it belonged.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM
For my money, I like thinking the author does not benefit from returns.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)
She's getting old and haggard, and Alyssa Milano has already sewn up the old has-been bitch market on twatter, so I'm thinking Sarah just sits around counting her dwindling income, remembering all the old Hollowwood c**ks she had to suck, and trying to figure out if she should get a job as a waitress somewhere, and can keep whoring herself out to less and less famous for a while longer.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:13 AM
For my money, I like thinking the author does not benefit from returns.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)
She's getting old and haggard, and Alyssa Milano has already sewn up the old has-been bitch market on twatter, so I'm thinking Sarah just sits around counting her dwindling income, remembering all the old Hollowwood c**ks she had to suck, and trying to figure out if she should get a job as a waitress somewhere, and can keep whoring herself out to less and less famous for a while longer.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:30 AM (hku12)
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Read Team of Teams, by GEN McChrystal. I dont care for his politics, but he did call the Obama Administration a bunch of clowns. So he's an equal opportunity political hater. The book, however, is great.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (m/eiQ)
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One thing about 2020 already seems clear:
Trump will have a much bigger ground game, & a lot more money too.
A recent poll (by somebody respectable, but I forget who) showed the GOP was +7 over the DEMs on "enthusiasm," which is unusual, assuming it's twue.*
"We don't want to fight, but by jingo if we do..."
*("Is it true what they say about you people? It's twue! It's twue!")
Trump will have a much bigger ground game, & a lot more money too.
A recent poll (by somebody respectable, but I forget who) showed the GOP was +7 over the DEMs on "enthusiasm," which is unusual, assuming it's twue.*
"We don't want to fight, but by jingo if we do..."
*("Is it true what they say about you people? It's twue! It's twue!")
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Cssks)
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Is that a thing? Do you have a link? I'd be happy to do likewise.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:16 AM (OX9vb)
goes to FEE.org for HTML article
https://preview.tinyurl.com/vvbxnou
goes to Mises.org for the PDF
https://mises.org/files/road-serfdom-cartoonspdf
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 11:16 AM (OX9vb)
goes to FEE.org for HTML article
https://preview.tinyurl.com/vvbxnou
goes to Mises.org for the PDF
https://mises.org/files/road-serfdom-cartoonspdf
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 11:33 AM (1glZx)
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Good morning!
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2019 11:33 AM (u82oZ)
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Well, the solution WAS simple, it's just nobody ever stumbled on it. A guy gets off a train, kills people, gets back on a train, and... whoosh, he's gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
You could do that a lot easier back in 1912, avoiding prosecution by fleeing to another state. Back then, states were more actual states and not mere administrative units of the federal government.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (zGtXn)
Easier, sure, but it's not THAT much better now.
Traveling serial killers are still wildly successful in avoiding capture, and while it's less likely anyone these days is going to get famous the way Dahmer and Gacy and Bundy and all the nickname killers did, there's plenty of evidence that there are perhaps more, not fewer serial killers roaming around today.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 10:46 AM (hku12)
You could do that a lot easier back in 1912, avoiding prosecution by fleeing to another state. Back then, states were more actual states and not mere administrative units of the federal government.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:26 AM (zGtXn)
Easier, sure, but it's not THAT much better now.
Traveling serial killers are still wildly successful in avoiding capture, and while it's less likely anyone these days is going to get famous the way Dahmer and Gacy and Bundy and all the nickname killers did, there's plenty of evidence that there are perhaps more, not fewer serial killers roaming around today.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:35 AM (hku12)
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"The US dropped the atomic bomb Hiroshima because we believed only a horrific display of destructive power would convince Japan to surrender.
We bombed Nagasaki because, hey, we had another bomb."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)
Barr's annual, year-end news round-ups are always a hoot. He's pretty even-handed politically, too, and maybe a wee bit conservative. I can't wait to see how he's going to cover the impeachment follies.
We bombed Nagasaki because, hey, we had another bomb."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)
Barr's annual, year-end news round-ups are always a hoot. He's pretty even-handed politically, too, and maybe a wee bit conservative. I can't wait to see how he's going to cover the impeachment follies.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:35 AM (zGtXn)
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I think there have been a few serial killers in modern times who were interstate truck drivers, mostly truck stop hookers who ended up as victims but not always them alone.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (ZCEU2)
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I'm outta here too. Got to get to the bookstore before the Pat's game. Going to make some chili this afternoon.
Posted by: sharon
Don't forget to swing by the grocer for carrots on your way back from the bookstore!
Posted by: sharon
Don't forget to swing by the grocer for carrots on your way back from the bookstore!
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (N4r5a)
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Finishing up the book Hrothgar loaned me:
Tuning the Rig: A Journey to the Arctic by Harvey Oxenhorn.
Quite the salty tale to watch the snow fall.
Tuning the Rig: A Journey to the Arctic by Harvey Oxenhorn.
Quite the salty tale to watch the snow fall.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (u82oZ)
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I can't stay to chat because I'm getting ready for church. However, I looked at that King's College online. On the surface they appeared to be an amazing, Bible-believing school, but once I started poking around the student handbook, I discovered they are super-supportive of their transgender students. In the same sentence they speak of their biblical worldview and also how someone may be a different gender than the one they were "assigned" at birth. Be aware.
Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (L9+g/)
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And would anyone have read Sherlock Holmes if every story was 1) Joe killed his wife because he found her messing around with another man. 2) Tony killed Frank because they both were drunk and Frank ate the turkey leg.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 11:29 AM (r6GXX)
Right, exactly. Fiction is fiction, and I guess I enjoy it as much as the next guy, but the vast majority of cases look like the ones you describe.
And the freakazoids out there? Yeah, they get away with it in a high percentage of cases.
As the Colin Dexter work was mentioned earlier, I always thought it was amusing to imagine a real life Oxford at which college students and perfessers and housewives were killing and dying at the rate at which they were in the books. Why, Oxford would be as notorious as Detroit.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 11:29 AM (r6GXX)
Right, exactly. Fiction is fiction, and I guess I enjoy it as much as the next guy, but the vast majority of cases look like the ones you describe.
And the freakazoids out there? Yeah, they get away with it in a high percentage of cases.
As the Colin Dexter work was mentioned earlier, I always thought it was amusing to imagine a real life Oxford at which college students and perfessers and housewives were killing and dying at the rate at which they were in the books. Why, Oxford would be as notorious as Detroit.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (hku12)
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258 One thing about 2020 already seems clear:
Trump will have a much bigger ground game, a lot more money too.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Cssks)
He'll need a lot more money just to combat the epic voter fraud that the Dems are going to try to get away with. They didn't cheat much in 2016 because they thought they had the election in the bag, but in 2020, whoa nellie, look out.
Trump will have a much bigger ground game, a lot more money too.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 11:31 AM (Cssks)
He'll need a lot more money just to combat the epic voter fraud that the Dems are going to try to get away with. They didn't cheat much in 2016 because they thought they had the election in the bag, but in 2020, whoa nellie, look out.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:39 AM (zGtXn)
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I think there have been a few serial killers in modern times who were interstate truck drivers, mostly truck stop hookers who ended up as victims but not always them alone.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (ZCEU2)
More than a few. I forget the numbers but it's probably at least dozens, if not hundreds. And I'm just talking about over the road truckers. Not your average hooker killer, roaming the streets of his own home town.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:37 AM (ZCEU2)
More than a few. I forget the numbers but it's probably at least dozens, if not hundreds. And I'm just talking about over the road truckers. Not your average hooker killer, roaming the streets of his own home town.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM (hku12)
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Tami, I don't know if anyone has recommended these yet, but Phyllis A. Whitney did a juvenile mystery series that I enjoyed when I was about that age.
https://phyllisawhitney.com/juvenilemysterylist.htm
I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.
https://phyllisawhitney.com/juvenilemysterylist.htm
I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM (/669Q)
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266 I can't stay to chat because I'm getting ready for church. However, I looked at that King's College online. On the surface they appeared to be an amazing, Bible-believing school, but once I started poking around the student handbook, I discovered they are super-supportive of their transgender students. In the same sentence they speak of their biblical worldview and also how someone may be a different gender than the one they were "assigned" at birth. Be aware.
Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (L9+g/)
Wow. Some people just can't wait to guzzle the kool-aid.
Posted by: California Girl (not Caligirl) at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (L9+g/)
Wow. Some people just can't wait to guzzle the kool-aid.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (zGtXn)
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Has anyone tried for the Who Dis? She looks like some ex-wife of a Beatle, so Jane Asher? Patti Boyd?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (W04rT)
It's Asher. I'm still waiting to collect my winnings at #10.
Has anyone tried for the Who Dis? She looks like some ex-wife of a Beatle, so Jane Asher? Patti Boyd?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 15, 2019 10:55 AM (W04rT)
It's Asher. I'm still waiting to collect my winnings at #10.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cWKsE)
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Hiya,
Hope you all are doing well. I've read a few books lately, but I only have time to mention one today. Hopefully, I can post more next week.
Recently, on this thread someone mentioned It Didn't Start With Watergate. I was able to obtain a copy from a local college library, so here's my review:
It Didn't Start With Watergate--though this book was written in 1977, it details political scandals and Democratic opposition strategies that sound like today's news. The author, Victor Lasky, was a conservative columnist. Lasky brings to light the scandals of the JFK and LBJ administrations, and he also somewhat refers back to Eisenhower, Truman, and FDR. Lasky claims that the Watergate impeachment hearings succeeded in removing Nixon from office (by resignation) largely because of the media's influence. He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.
Some examples:
In 1960, when Nixon was running against JFK, in at least one of the debates, one of the panelists had been in contact with the Kennedy campaign and received questions that the campaign wanted asked of Nixon. The panelist did ask the questions, so Nixon had the deck stacked against him.
In 1961, the Kennedy administration used the IRS to target tax-exempt right-wing groups. [Nixon also used the IRS to investigate student leaders, subversives, etc., but Lasky's point is that the press harped on Nixon's transgressions, yet they did not deem it noteworthy to report on Kennedy's].
The Kennedy administration bugged political opponents and civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King.
He briefly mentions the cover-up at Chappaquiddick, and how the media barely covered and quickly dropped the incident.
In 1964, LBJ went after Senator John Williams. Williams was investigating LBJ and Bobby Baker on suspicions of corruption. LBJ had the IRS audit Williams, and he monitored all of Williams communications. Then, the Washington Post "helpfully" published an unchecked story that Williams was using hidden microphones in his office to record interviews.
Lasky states near the end of the book that the Democrats' minds were made up even before the impeachment hearings began--sound familiar?
This book is dry. I would recommend it for people who are interested in Watergate and the Kennedy and LBJ scandals. It is also interesting to see the similarities between then and now, especially with the biased media. I certainly do not think that the ugly politics only started with Kennedy or even FDR. I believe politics have always been ugly. It would be interesting to trace when it was that the media became so biased against conservatives.
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I saw a post above requesting humorous books or mysteries for a 13 year old. I'll think about it today, and try to get back to you later this evening.
Hope you all are doing well. I've read a few books lately, but I only have time to mention one today. Hopefully, I can post more next week.
Recently, on this thread someone mentioned It Didn't Start With Watergate. I was able to obtain a copy from a local college library, so here's my review:
It Didn't Start With Watergate--though this book was written in 1977, it details political scandals and Democratic opposition strategies that sound like today's news. The author, Victor Lasky, was a conservative columnist. Lasky brings to light the scandals of the JFK and LBJ administrations, and he also somewhat refers back to Eisenhower, Truman, and FDR. Lasky claims that the Watergate impeachment hearings succeeded in removing Nixon from office (by resignation) largely because of the media's influence. He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.
Some examples:
In 1960, when Nixon was running against JFK, in at least one of the debates, one of the panelists had been in contact with the Kennedy campaign and received questions that the campaign wanted asked of Nixon. The panelist did ask the questions, so Nixon had the deck stacked against him.
In 1961, the Kennedy administration used the IRS to target tax-exempt right-wing groups. [Nixon also used the IRS to investigate student leaders, subversives, etc., but Lasky's point is that the press harped on Nixon's transgressions, yet they did not deem it noteworthy to report on Kennedy's].
The Kennedy administration bugged political opponents and civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King.
He briefly mentions the cover-up at Chappaquiddick, and how the media barely covered and quickly dropped the incident.
In 1964, LBJ went after Senator John Williams. Williams was investigating LBJ and Bobby Baker on suspicions of corruption. LBJ had the IRS audit Williams, and he monitored all of Williams communications. Then, the Washington Post "helpfully" published an unchecked story that Williams was using hidden microphones in his office to record interviews.
Lasky states near the end of the book that the Democrats' minds were made up even before the impeachment hearings began--sound familiar?
This book is dry. I would recommend it for people who are interested in Watergate and the Kennedy and LBJ scandals. It is also interesting to see the similarities between then and now, especially with the biased media. I certainly do not think that the ugly politics only started with Kennedy or even FDR. I believe politics have always been ugly. It would be interesting to trace when it was that the media became so biased against conservatives.
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I saw a post above requesting humorous books or mysteries for a 13 year old. I'll think about it today, and try to get back to you later this evening.
Posted by: Violet at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (9ppMC)
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Picked up The Enemy by Lee Child a while back used and finally got around to reading it. It features Jack Reacher and is a flashback book on close to the end of his military career- not the first book he wrote in the series, but probably the first book in the timeline (and I certainly have not read off of them, so that may not be correct). Liked it- there is a scene close to the beginning that seemed like something Reacher would do, but he miscalculated on who caused something and it had some serious flashback at the end. Thought the plot was going to be a complicated mess, but actually turned out simpler than expected. Pretty solid book and I would recommend. Actually liked one of the other characters that worked with Reacher enough to want to know more about her.
Posted by: Charlotte at December 15, 2019 11:43 AM (Aj6Tl)
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Pro Tip: I'm fairly certain MacGyver didn't improvise utilizing his nipples as suspenders. Awkward!
Posted by: Fritz at December 15, 2019 11:44 AM (zD38/)
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Many Christian universities have gone full justice warriors, there is nothing the Left touches it doesn't ruin.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)
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I'm kind of between books this week. Finished up American Moonshot, which ends a bit anticlimactically when Kennedy is assassinated. I was hoping for more about Armstrong and the development of the Saturn rocket, but apparently once the political heavy lifting was over Brinkley lost interest.
I did start a new (old) book: The Rise and Fall of D.O.D.O. by Neal Stephenson and Nicole Galland. I'm about a quarter of the way into it. Will comment more next time.
I did start a new (old) book: The Rise and Fall of D.O.D.O. by Neal Stephenson and Nicole Galland. I'm about a quarter of the way into it. Will comment more next time.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (urZJh)
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I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM
She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM
She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
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They didn't cheat much in 2016 because they thought they had the election in the bag, but in 2020, whoa nellie, look out.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:39 AM (zGtXn)
My gut feeling is that we either win in a relative landslide or we lose narrowly. In the latter case, the voter fraud will be so grotesquely obvious and result in such an outcry that the election will end up in the courts.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:39 AM (zGtXn)
My gut feeling is that we either win in a relative landslide or we lose narrowly. In the latter case, the voter fraud will be so grotesquely obvious and result in such an outcry that the election will end up in the courts.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:48 AM (H8QX8)
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Tami again - I also second alex's recs of the Trixie Belden series, and of course the classic Nancy Drews.
And the rec for the Flavia de Luce mysteries by Alan Bradley.
And the rec for the Flavia de Luce mysteries by Alan Bradley.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:49 AM (/669Q)
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She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
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*ba-DUM-tiss*
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
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*ba-DUM-tiss*
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (/669Q)
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She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
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Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
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Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)
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Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'
I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'
I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)
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It's Asher. I'm still waiting to collect my winnings at #10.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cWKsE)
Your winnings, sir:
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Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 11:42 AM (cWKsE)
Your winnings, sir:
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (zGtXn)
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283 Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'
I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)
Very sharp humor, the lot of you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'
I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)
Very sharp humor, the lot of you.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (zGtXn)
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I need recommendations for mystery and/or humorous books for a 13 yo girl.
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
Well they're not mystery or humerous, but the Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCafffrey might be of interest...
HMMV
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2019 09:03 AM (cF8AT)
Well they're not mystery or humerous, but the Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCafffrey might be of interest...
HMMV
Posted by: browndog at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (gD6Ka)
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Still remember in 4th grade the teacher ( and one of my hottest) read Robert Frosts Stopping By the Woods at the end of class. Use to have it memorized.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)
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He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.
Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?
Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)
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Hah! And I can't see making the kids wait for the shank of the evening to hear a story.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'
I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)
Very sharp humor, the lot of you.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (zGtXn)
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You guys really slay me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:50 AM (XVuno)'
I think you've got a point there.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 11:51 AM (IttZ7)
Very sharp humor, the lot of you.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (zGtXn)
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You guys really slay me.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (/669Q)
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Tami, I have a book recommendation for your thirteen-year-old...Essays of E. B. White.
I know it sounds boring. But it's not. Yes, it's an "adult" book but there's absolutely nothing salacious in it. E. B. White wrote "Charlotte's Web" and his writing style really doesn't differ between the two genres. it's funny and educational and even a little sad in spots. But the writing is unparalleled. This is what words were meant to do.
I know it sounds boring. But it's not. Yes, it's an "adult" book but there's absolutely nothing salacious in it. E. B. White wrote "Charlotte's Web" and his writing style really doesn't differ between the two genres. it's funny and educational and even a little sad in spots. But the writing is unparalleled. This is what words were meant to do.
Posted by: creeper at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (XxJt1)
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I remember our 8th grade teacher would read "Mystery of the Green Cat" aloud to us over several weeks when we had a few extra minutes at the end of class. We all would hasten to get everything done so she would read to us.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM
She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
Leaving aside the building pun-athon here, this is another illustration of the differences between boys and girls.
Girls wait in anticipation of story time. Boys wait in anticipation of getting out of the godawful classroom entirely.
Why, it's almost like there's a hardwire difference....
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:41 AM
She's very lucky you didn't shiver in anticipation.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 15, 2019 11:47 AM (nIiI+)
Leaving aside the building pun-athon here, this is another illustration of the differences between boys and girls.
Girls wait in anticipation of story time. Boys wait in anticipation of getting out of the godawful classroom entirely.
Why, it's almost like there's a hardwire difference....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:54 AM (hku12)
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Currently reading Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim.
Actually bought the book.
Kindles suck.
Actually bought the book.
Kindles suck.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (RU4sa)
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Well, BurtTC, I see your point, but the boys didn't dawdle because they'd rather listen to a mystery than do more work.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (/669Q)
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Tami-
Okay.....At the beginning of Big Ttouble, Barry states....
"I'll start with a warning: This is not a book for youngsters. I point this out because I know from reading my mail, that a lot of youngsters read my humor books and newspaper columns, and I'm thrilled that they do. But this book is not for them, because some of the characters use ADULT Language. I did not necessarily want the characters to use this type of language; some of them just went ahead and did. That's how some characters are. "
Sorry if I gave ya a bum steer.
Okay.....At the beginning of Big Ttouble, Barry states....
"I'll start with a warning: This is not a book for youngsters. I point this out because I know from reading my mail, that a lot of youngsters read my humor books and newspaper columns, and I'm thrilled that they do. But this book is not for them, because some of the characters use ADULT Language. I did not necessarily want the characters to use this type of language; some of them just went ahead and did. That's how some characters are. "
Sorry if I gave ya a bum steer.
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (arJlL)
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Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?
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Nixon also tried to placate the left rather than oppose it and that's how affirmative action became a federal policy and the EPA became a nationwide bureaucratic overlord.
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Nixon also tried to placate the left rather than oppose it and that's how affirmative action became a federal policy and the EPA became a nationwide bureaucratic overlord.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (XVuno)
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Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse. Not that he willfully and enthusiastically participated in a coup attempt, and necessarily knew exactly what was going on every step of the way.
A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse. Not that he willfully and enthusiastically participated in a coup attempt, and necessarily knew exactly what was going on every step of the way.
A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)
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Stopping By the Woods
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)
It's a lovely poem.
My wife took an English class that met in Robert Frost's old house....
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (ZCEU2)
It's a lovely poem.
My wife took an English class that met in Robert Frost's old house....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (wYseH)
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276 Many Christian universities have gone full justice warriors, there is nothing the Left touches it doesn't ruin.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)
Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 11:45 AM (ZCEU2)
Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)
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Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse.
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"I put too much faith in my generals."
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"I put too much faith in my generals."
Posted by: A. Hitler at December 15, 2019 11:57 AM (XVuno)
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Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)
The Progressive movement in this country was initially evangelical, as Daniel Flynn chronicles in his book "A Conservative History of the American Left."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)
The Progressive movement in this country was initially evangelical, as Daniel Flynn chronicles in his book "A Conservative History of the American Left."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:58 AM (H8QX8)
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A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)
That was the exact same phrase that occurred to me.
I think Comey realizes he could be indicted very soon, so he needs to be *very careful* about the types of statements he makes, and deeds he admits to either knowing or doing, in public forums.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)
That was the exact same phrase that occurred to me.
I think Comey realizes he could be indicted very soon, so he needs to be *very careful* about the types of statements he makes, and deeds he admits to either knowing or doing, in public forums.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (zGtXn)
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He states that Nixon was hated by the media. He cites many examples of former administrations who engaged in worse activities than the burglary which brought Nixon down. And, he notes that the media was mostly silent about those previous activities.
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Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)
Incidentally, I watched the Amazon show, "Marvelous Mrs. Maisel," and for the most part it's highly recommended. Great writing and acting, but the third season hits some sour notes. A few of the characters become caricatures, which I think might be an inevitable outcome for any tv show, but worse than that, the writers show their ignorance when it comes to politics of the time.
This is 1960, and if they just left it at "vote for Senator Kennedy, because he's cute," that would be fine. But they get in some digs at Nixon that could only be written after Watergate, and worst of all... they go after Phyllis Schlafly. The heavy handed hatred almost looks personal, and not just stupid ignorance.
Anyhoo, the show is otherwise great, and I would recommend it. Especially Season 2, which rises to a level I would say is brilliant.
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Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work out?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)
Incidentally, I watched the Amazon show, "Marvelous Mrs. Maisel," and for the most part it's highly recommended. Great writing and acting, but the third season hits some sour notes. A few of the characters become caricatures, which I think might be an inevitable outcome for any tv show, but worse than that, the writers show their ignorance when it comes to politics of the time.
This is 1960, and if they just left it at "vote for Senator Kennedy, because he's cute," that would be fine. But they get in some digs at Nixon that could only be written after Watergate, and worst of all... they go after Phyllis Schlafly. The heavy handed hatred almost looks personal, and not just stupid ignorance.
Anyhoo, the show is otherwise great, and I would recommend it. Especially Season 2, which rises to a level I would say is brilliant.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (hku12)
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In 1960 Nixon would have had to overturn the corrupt vote in both IL and TX. Low odds so he didn't fight it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)
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Comey says in interview, "I was wrong." Says he put too much faith in departmental procedures to prevent FISA warrant abuse. Not that he willfully and enthusiastically participated in a coup attempt, and necessarily knew exactly what was going on every step of the way.
A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)
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He has no choice but to admit he was wrong, now that it's all out there in the open. And don't give me this "I had too much faith in the system" bs, you pine-scented Druid. You were the top of the heap - when you saw something this outlandish, you had a responsibility to dive deep into this and make SURE you knew exactly what was what.
Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO, do not collect $100, and stop trying to pass the buck.
A "modified, limited hangout." It's a start. Comey actually doing time is becoming more real to me.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (t5m5e)
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He has no choice but to admit he was wrong, now that it's all out there in the open. And don't give me this "I had too much faith in the system" bs, you pine-scented Druid. You were the top of the heap - when you saw something this outlandish, you had a responsibility to dive deep into this and make SURE you knew exactly what was what.
Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO, do not collect $100, and stop trying to pass the buck.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:01 PM (/669Q)
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303 In 1960 Nixon would have had to overturn the corrupt vote in both IL and TX. Low odds so he didn't fight it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)
In those days it wasn't the hard Left it was Tammany Hall style boss corruption.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)
In those days it wasn't the hard Left it was Tammany Hall style boss corruption.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 12:01 PM (H8QX8)
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Well, BurtTC, I see your point, but the boys didn't dawdle because they'd rather listen to a mystery than do more work.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (/669Q)
This is true. I had some experience with story time in school, a few teachers who seemed to "get it" when it comes to holding the attention, but boys being boys, we'd still have rather been outside.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 11:55 AM (/669Q)
This is true. I had some experience with story time in school, a few teachers who seemed to "get it" when it comes to holding the attention, but boys being boys, we'd still have rather been outside.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (hku12)
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Do Comey seems to be conscious of his possible peril and bring careful but fat Nadler is out of control
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (StN5E)
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I'm not a Comey fan; I guess it's pretty obvious.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (/669Q)
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Nixon was the opposite of DJT when it came to fighting back. There were
clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon
refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work
out?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)
Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had
clear indications of voter fraud when Saint JFK was elected but Nixon
refused to contest it "for the good of the country". How'd that work
out?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 11:53 AM (y7DUB)
Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)
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I have to tell you this story: Newman used to race cars in local competition, and there was a moron a few years back, I forget his nic, who competed on the same circuit. Said moron encountered Newman at the track on more than one occasion and said he had the most striking blue eyes he had ever seen. He went on: "...and you know what's weird? I'm a guy. I don't ever notice some other man's eyes."
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Sigh.
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Sigh.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:04 PM (/669Q)
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Progressivism is pretty much a Christian ripoff, anyway, so it's no surprise that Christian institutions are highly susceptible to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)
The Progressive movement in this country was initially evangelical, as Daniel Flynn chronicles in his book "A Conservative History of the American Left."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:58 AM (H8QX
One might call progressivism a heresy, if we talked about such things in these terms these days.
The world is corrupt. Man is corrupt. The Kingdom of Heaven cannot be brought here, no matter how hard we try.
But we keep trying, and while I get it that the godless would want to do so. I get it less, when Churches decide to give it a shot.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:56 AM (zGtXn)
The Progressive movement in this country was initially evangelical, as Daniel Flynn chronicles in his book "A Conservative History of the American Left."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 11:58 AM (H8QX
One might call progressivism a heresy, if we talked about such things in these terms these days.
The world is corrupt. Man is corrupt. The Kingdom of Heaven cannot be brought here, no matter how hard we try.
But we keep trying, and while I get it that the godless would want to do so. I get it less, when Churches decide to give it a shot.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:04 PM (hku12)
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And saw a tweet from the President that Wray made makes him think he too isn't going to fix what ails the FBI.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:04 PM (ZCEU2)
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I put a hold on the hardbound copy of 36 RIGHTEOUS MEN in my library but cancelled it after reading the sample and the 1 and 2 star ratings. The book reads like a movie script which is a pet peeve of mine. Nope, not for me.
Back to re-reading THE LAST SAMURAI by Helen deWitt...
Back to re-reading THE LAST SAMURAI by Helen deWitt...
Posted by: Oggi at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (Bk5Q+)
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304; bluebell, comey needs a federal pound him in the ass prison. fuck jail. when he said he could find no intent with regards to hillary, he should have been hanged. that dude is a fucking traitor.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (KP5rU)
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Left is setting up that Trumps win in 2020 will be fraudulent. "Clear and present danger"
Putin stands ready to buy $1 million in Facebook ads to give them the evidence
Putin stands ready to buy $1 million in Facebook ads to give them the evidence
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (NuJm4)
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Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)
Hold my beer.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)
Hold my beer.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (zGtXn)
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (arJlL)
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I'm not a Comey fan; I guess it's pretty obvious.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (/669Q)
We all saw it for ourselves. Comey laid out Hillory's crimes, and then said... "nah, not going to go after criminal proceedings."
The disconnect was obvious to all, and so here we are.
Yeah, no, douchebag, you don't get to claim ignorance now.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:02 PM (/669Q)
We all saw it for ourselves. Comey laid out Hillory's crimes, and then said... "nah, not going to go after criminal proceedings."
The disconnect was obvious to all, and so here we are.
Yeah, no, douchebag, you don't get to claim ignorance now.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (hku12)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (KP5rU)
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316 Horrible. We ended up with LBJ who was one of the worst presidents we've had
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)
Hold my beer.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (zGtXn)
No, you hold my beer.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2019 12:03 PM (cWKsE)
Hold my beer.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (zGtXn)
No, you hold my beer.
Posted by: Barak Obama at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (zGtXn)
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LBJ was far worse than Carter. Vietnam and Great Society
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (NuJm4)
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This doesn't sound good: Iran has moved tanks and armored vehicles into Iraq, apparently to quell anti-Iran protests.
https://tinyurl.com/sp3nka9
https://tinyurl.com/sp3nka9
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 15, 2019 12:09 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:10 PM (RU4sa)
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We all saw it for ourselves. Comey laid out Hillory's crimes, and then said... "nah, not going to go after criminal proceedings."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (hku12)
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And chavez, you said the same thing. Yep, I remember watching that briefing he gave, I think it was July 5, 2016, and hearing him list all Hillary's wrongdoings and thinking, "yes! Yes! Finally!" and then he gets to the end and starts in with the "no intent" and "no reasonable prosecutor" business and I thought are you effing KIDDING ME?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:07 PM (hku12)
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And chavez, you said the same thing. Yep, I remember watching that briefing he gave, I think it was July 5, 2016, and hearing him list all Hillary's wrongdoings and thinking, "yes! Yes! Finally!" and then he gets to the end and starts in with the "no intent" and "no reasonable prosecutor" business and I thought are you effing KIDDING ME?
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:11 PM (/669Q)
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Left is setting up that Trumps win in 2020 will be fraudulent. "Clear and present danger"
Putin stands ready to buy $1 million in Facebook ads to give them the evidence
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (NuJm4)
Million? Silly American. I can buy a thousand dollars worth of Facecrook ads, and that would do the trick.
And send a text message to some assistant to the assistant deputy sub-committee for the Re-election of Trump, and they'll say I'm controlling all of them.
Why do I do this, you ask? World domination?
Nah, it's just fun watching American politicians act like middle school bullies.
Putin stands ready to buy $1 million in Facebook ads to give them the evidence
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:06 PM (NuJm4)
Million? Silly American. I can buy a thousand dollars worth of Facecrook ads, and that would do the trick.
And send a text message to some assistant to the assistant deputy sub-committee for the Re-election of Trump, and they'll say I'm controlling all of them.
Why do I do this, you ask? World domination?
Nah, it's just fun watching American politicians act like middle school bullies.
Posted by: Pootin, On the Fritz at December 15, 2019 12:12 PM (hku12)
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Don't see much around from Carter left though sure there are some but LBJ has sown the seeds of our downfall.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:13 PM (ZCEU2)
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This doesn't sound good: Iran has moved tanks and armored vehicles into Iraq, apparently to quell anti-Iran protests.
https://tinyurl.com/sp3nka9
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 15, 2019 12:09 PM (sWM8x)
323 Iran invading Iraq?
https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1205975449408548866
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:10 PM (RU4sa)
Oh my. Sounds serious. Well, good luck to them.
We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.
https://tinyurl.com/sp3nka9
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 15, 2019 12:09 PM (sWM8x)
323 Iran invading Iraq?
https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1205975449408548866
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:10 PM (RU4sa)
Oh my. Sounds serious. Well, good luck to them.
We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
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"Iran invading Iraq?"
Good thing we spent 20 years training and arming the Iraqis, this should be a cakewalk for them. But it ain't worth one American life.
Good thing we spent 20 years training and arming the Iraqis, this should be a cakewalk for them. But it ain't worth one American life.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (4thlk)
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We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
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Yes.
As well as in Kuwait.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
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Yes.
As well as in Kuwait.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (RU4sa)
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Seems like the logical thing for the parents in the chain to do would be to find a willing "victim" in the form of a terminally ill child medicated to the point that they would not be aware of any pain/torture the kidnappers might inflict upon them, and the parents could take comfort in knowing that their child saved many others from the trauma of being kidnapped and whoever else would've ended up as the final victim from their trauma.
But I guess that wouldn't be a very good novel.
But I guess that wouldn't be a very good novel.
Posted by: Otter Fodder at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (Qqq4N)
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This thread isn't quite dead, but it sure does seem to be pining for the fjords.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (hku12)
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Kuwait is telling its people to gtfo of Iraq.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (RU4sa)
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"And now for something completely different..."
Does anybody have recommendations pro or con for a conical burr type coffee grinder? Preferably under $100 or so.
Does anybody have recommendations pro or con for a conical burr type coffee grinder? Preferably under $100 or so.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (qc+VF)
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321 LBJ was far worse than Carter. Vietnam and Great Society
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (NuJm4)
For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:08 PM (NuJm4)
For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)
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Tami,
What sort of book were you looking for? Nancy Drews hold up pretty well. Encyclopedia Brown, too.
Is she mature enough for Sherlock Holmes? I think that's when I started reading them.
Does she read historical?
What sort of book were you looking for? Nancy Drews hold up pretty well. Encyclopedia Brown, too.
Is she mature enough for Sherlock Holmes? I think that's when I started reading them.
Does she read historical?
Posted by: artemis at December 15, 2019 12:17 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2019 12:18 PM (r6GXX)
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Oh, and nood.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:18 PM (qc+VF)
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327 This doesn't sound good: Iran has moved tanks and armored vehicles into Iraq, apparently to quell anti-Iran protests.
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Tanks? Whatever happened to human wave attacks?
Bastichez have no respect for tradition!
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Tanks? Whatever happened to human wave attacks?
Bastichez have no respect for tradition!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:18 PM (XVuno)
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We still have any American service folks over there? Time to leave, I'd say. Well past time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
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Yes.
As well as in Kuwait.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (RU4sa)
Hopefully training all our NATO "allies" so they can do some of their share of heavy lifting.
Get in there, boys. Show 'em whatchoo gots!
Incidentally, from your hash it's obvious you are an agent of Pootin. We can get a FISA warrant on less evidence than that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:14 PM (hku12)
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Yes.
As well as in Kuwait.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:15 PM (RU4sa)
Hopefully training all our NATO "allies" so they can do some of their share of heavy lifting.
Get in there, boys. Show 'em whatchoo gots!
Incidentally, from your hash it's obvious you are an agent of Pootin. We can get a FISA warrant on less evidence than that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:19 PM (hku12)
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As the Colin Dexter work was mentioned earlier, I always thought it was amusing to imagine a real life Oxford at which college students and perfessers and housewives were killing and dying at the rate at which they were in the books. Why, Oxford would be as notorious as Detroit.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (hku12)
And Midsomer county would be even worse, murders always come in multiples there.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 11:38 AM (hku12)
And Midsomer county would be even worse, murders always come in multiples there.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:20 PM (U7k5w)
341
In 1960 Nixon would have had to overturn the corrupt vote in both IL and TX. Low odds so he didn't fight it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)
I thought West Virginia was sketchy too.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2019 12:00 PM (NuJm4)
I thought West Virginia was sketchy too.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 12:20 PM (y7DUB)
342
Yeah, I noticed.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (RU4sa)
343
I think Comey realizes he could be indicted very soon, so he needs to be *very careful* about the types of statements he makes, and deeds he admits to either knowing or doing, in public forums.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (zGtXn)
I don't think the cabal missed the IG's statement that he referred the whole lot to the DoJ for further investigation.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 11:59 AM (zGtXn)
I don't think the cabal missed the IG's statement that he referred the whole lot to the DoJ for further investigation.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (1g7ch)
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For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)
Absolutely correct! Jimmah set in motion the problems we have with Iran to this very day. He also caused the deaths of thousands in Central America by coddling commies and their allies.
He should be tried for crimes against humanity.
He has blood on his hands, and his demise will be celebrated by myself and others.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)
Absolutely correct! Jimmah set in motion the problems we have with Iran to this very day. He also caused the deaths of thousands in Central America by coddling commies and their allies.
He should be tried for crimes against humanity.
He has blood on his hands, and his demise will be celebrated by myself and others.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Z+IKu)
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For sheer feckless incompetence, nothing tops Peanut-head Carter. Thanks to his foot-in-wastebasket bungling, we lost not one, but two countries (Iran, Nicaragua) to our enemies. And while he didn't invent the endemic stagflation, he did nothing to contain it. When he turned the country over to Reagan, it was basically a dumpster fire of failure and defeat. Which makes the 1980s turnaround even more remarkable.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)
Helicopters crashing in the desert FTL.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 12:16 PM (zGtXn)
Helicopters crashing in the desert FTL.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (y7DUB)
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Muse
RE: DEM voter fraud in 2020
I don't agree. The worst vote fraud (attempt) in 2016 was in Palm Beach County, FL. That longstanding scam has been taken off the board forever by Gov. Scott & a whole new team there.
I can't think of any other battleground state, other than FL, where the prospect of actual fraud seems probable.
Now... if illegal voting by foreign aliens is voter fraud, then yes, there's a lot of that, esp in CA. But neither that nor vote harvesting is usually defined as organized fraud.
Can you tell me in which states you suspect the DEM vote fraud will occur in 2020? Pls don't just say "all of them!" because that would just be venom.
Thanks to Gov. Scott, I submit there is likely to be less real old-fashioned ballot box hanky-panky.
There is only one reason federal prosecutors don't prosecute voting by illegal aliens, or voting by lawful permanent alien residents (LAPR's), both of which are federal crimes: they dread the fearful "voter suppression!" blowback. ICE agents usually give a verbal warning only when they run across this.
RE: DEM voter fraud in 2020
I don't agree. The worst vote fraud (attempt) in 2016 was in Palm Beach County, FL. That longstanding scam has been taken off the board forever by Gov. Scott & a whole new team there.
I can't think of any other battleground state, other than FL, where the prospect of actual fraud seems probable.
Now... if illegal voting by foreign aliens is voter fraud, then yes, there's a lot of that, esp in CA. But neither that nor vote harvesting is usually defined as organized fraud.
Can you tell me in which states you suspect the DEM vote fraud will occur in 2020? Pls don't just say "all of them!" because that would just be venom.
Thanks to Gov. Scott, I submit there is likely to be less real old-fashioned ballot box hanky-panky.
There is only one reason federal prosecutors don't prosecute voting by illegal aliens, or voting by lawful permanent alien residents (LAPR's), both of which are federal crimes: they dread the fearful "voter suppression!" blowback. ICE agents usually give a verbal warning only when they run across this.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Cssks)
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314 304; bluebell, comey needs a federal pound him in the ass prison. fuck jail. when he said he could find no intent with regards to hillary, he should have been hanged. that dude is a fucking traitor.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (KP5rU)
Sounds like his FBI assisted her in the destruction of evidence as well.
On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which were placed peculiarly
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:05 PM (KP5rU)
Sounds like his FBI assisted her in the destruction of evidence as well.
On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which were placed peculiarly
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)
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On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which were placed peculiarly
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)
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Like the atom bomb, they had an extra.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)
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Like the atom bomb, they had an extra.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:24 PM (XVuno)
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On a separate Hillary note, I love the cheeky face
lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which
were placed peculiarly
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)
I am waiting for the photoshop of the red spirals on her cheeks
lift pictures. She looks monstrous with those globs in her face, which
were placed peculiarly
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)
I am waiting for the photoshop of the red spirals on her cheeks
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (1glZx)
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Well they're not mystery or humerous, but the Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCafffrey might be of interest...
HMMV
Posted by: browndog at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (gD6Ka)
Especially some of the later ones, when Menolly(sp?) becomes the viewpoint character.
HMMV
Posted by: browndog at December 15, 2019 11:52 AM (gD6Ka)
Especially some of the later ones, when Menolly(sp?) becomes the viewpoint character.
Posted by: Anla'shok at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (qyH+l)
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I am waiting for the photoshop of the red spirals on her cheeks
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (1glZx)
I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (1glZx)
I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)
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Does anybody have recommendations pro or con for a conical burr type coffee grinder? Preferably under $100 or so.
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I'm also looking to replace my Krups burr grinder. The $70 Gourmia GCG205 looks okay. I got an Italian made manual grinder but will probably get the Gourmia too.
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I'm also looking to replace my Krups burr grinder. The $70 Gourmia GCG205 looks okay. I got an Italian made manual grinder but will probably get the Gourmia too.
Posted by: Oggi at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (Bk5Q+)
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I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)
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Some people find that Lollipop Guild look attractive. Hey, there's no accounting for taste.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)
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Some people find that Lollipop Guild look attractive. Hey, there's no accounting for taste.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (XVuno)
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191 . . .
When I was in school, I quickly discovered that faculty often taught from older books, while assigning new ones. A trip to office hours always helps you find the real source of their lectures.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (U7k5w)
As a newly retired professor of computer science, I affirm the truth of this statement.
I di NOT like having to assigned expensive, newer editions when the good stuff was already well explained in older, cheaper editions
191 . . .
When I was in school, I quickly discovered that faculty often taught from older books, while assigning new ones. A trip to office hours always helps you find the real source of their lectures.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 10:49 AM (U7k5w)
As a newly retired professor of computer science, I affirm the truth of this statement.
I di NOT like having to assigned expensive, newer editions when the good stuff was already well explained in older, cheaper editions
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I'm sure photoshops are coming. It's interesting to note how some libs say that this makes her look young and radiant...maybe for a chipmunk
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)
Radiant as in exposed to Chernobyl level fissioning material.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)
Radiant as in exposed to Chernobyl level fissioning material.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (y7DUB)
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I would throw away everything my mother has stored in hundreds of boxes in dry storage which she has moved unlooked-at to three different houses if not for the knowlege that in one of them is a pristine signed and dedicated (to my late father) 1st Edition of The Fountainhead.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (w7U7L)
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Can you tell me in which states you suspect the DEM vote fraud will occur in 2020? Pls don't just say "all of them!" because that would just be venom.
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Cssks)
Most likely the purplish states. The reason this is not venom is because the Dems declared war on PDT about 8 minutes after he was elected and the war has not let up since, not once.
And the shampeachment follies. If I told you back in 2017 that the Dems would be thinking of one impeachment scam after another to destroy Trump, would you have said it was just venom?.
Maybe you would. And maybe I would've agreed. Yet here we are.
Is there anything the Dems *won't* do to destroy Trump?
Posted by: mnw at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (Cssks)
Most likely the purplish states. The reason this is not venom is because the Dems declared war on PDT about 8 minutes after he was elected and the war has not let up since, not once.
And the shampeachment follies. If I told you back in 2017 that the Dems would be thinking of one impeachment scam after another to destroy Trump, would you have said it was just venom?.
Maybe you would. And maybe I would've agreed. Yet here we are.
Is there anything the Dems *won't* do to destroy Trump?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (zGtXn)
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You left out Pratchett's Hogfather.
Posted by: iowaan at December 15, 2019 01:38 PM (f7co6)
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So, this week I finished An Accidental Death by Peter Grainger, recommended on a Book Thread a few weeks ago. I really, really liked the protagonist, and while I liked the story, I didn't think the "mystery" was a very good one. But I'll read the next book, simply because I liked DC Smith so much.
I also finished a quick little Regency romance - which is what I read when the world and politics get me down. Needless to say, I have quite a few of those on my list of 2019 completed books. This one was A Governess for the Brooding Duke by Bridget Barton. Something makes me think someone on here mentioned it, but could that be true? Doesn't seem like it.
Also finished Dissolution, the first book in the Matthew Shardlake mystery series, set in Tudor England. Really, really liked the first entry in the series. It was a harsh look at the monasteries during the time they were being dissolved and (since I'm faithfully Catholic) that kind of got my goat a little. But I did like how the main character was so pro-reform in the beginning but began to see the bad side of Cromwell by the end. I liked that the hero didn't stay a wild-eyed "reform at all costs" guy.
I want to read the 2nd in the Shardlake series, but my library doesn't have the second book - though they have all the others in the series. That annoys me. What with Christmas and other personal matters, but $$ for buying are not available at the moment. And I don't really want to OWN it - I just want to READ it. I guess it will be Interlibrary Loan for me.
Currently reading The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides. I'm searching for suggestions for my IRL book club for next year. Recommended by a good friend, I'm not digging it as much as she did, apparently. I find most of the people yucky and unsympathetic. While I don't expect everything to be sunshine and roses in a book, I like to have *someone* to root for.
Well, that was more than you needed to know. I'm consoled by the fact that no one reads this far down!
I also finished a quick little Regency romance - which is what I read when the world and politics get me down. Needless to say, I have quite a few of those on my list of 2019 completed books. This one was A Governess for the Brooding Duke by Bridget Barton. Something makes me think someone on here mentioned it, but could that be true? Doesn't seem like it.
Also finished Dissolution, the first book in the Matthew Shardlake mystery series, set in Tudor England. Really, really liked the first entry in the series. It was a harsh look at the monasteries during the time they were being dissolved and (since I'm faithfully Catholic) that kind of got my goat a little. But I did like how the main character was so pro-reform in the beginning but began to see the bad side of Cromwell by the end. I liked that the hero didn't stay a wild-eyed "reform at all costs" guy.
I want to read the 2nd in the Shardlake series, but my library doesn't have the second book - though they have all the others in the series. That annoys me. What with Christmas and other personal matters, but $$ for buying are not available at the moment. And I don't really want to OWN it - I just want to READ it. I guess it will be Interlibrary Loan for me.
Currently reading The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides. I'm searching for suggestions for my IRL book club for next year. Recommended by a good friend, I'm not digging it as much as she did, apparently. I find most of the people yucky and unsympathetic. While I don't expect everything to be sunshine and roses in a book, I like to have *someone* to root for.
Well, that was more than you needed to know. I'm consoled by the fact that no one reads this far down!
Posted by: SummaMamaT, who is almost always last at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (84ClH)
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A little late in suggestions, but I know a couple of just teenagers that really like Susan Cooper's Dark is Rising set of books. The first one is more of a setup and not that interesting, but the rest of them do a bang up job of pulling in a set of kids into Arthur legends and Wales legends. Even got a Newbery award years ago
Posted by: Charlotte at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (Aj6Tl)
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Currently reading The Silent Patient by Alex Michaelides. I'm searching for suggestions for my IRL book club for next year. Recommended by a good friend, I'm not digging it as much as she did, apparently. I find most of the people yucky and unsympathetic. While I don't expect everything to be sunshine and roses in a book, I like to have *someone* to root for.
Well, that was more than you needed to know. I'm consoled by the fact that no one reads this far down!
Posted by: SummaMamaT, who is almost always last at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (84ClH)
I guess I have little stomach for psychological thrillers at all. Unless the person is a psychiatrist or a psychology hospitalist, their knowledge base is generally inadequate for me. A friend told me about another psych centered book she was reading and asked me about the character's medication. The treatment made no sense and would have landed the facility in jeopardy. I also get the same vibe from most movies and television shows, and was so amazed by how well the wrong medications worked that I stopped watching this shit.
Well, that was more than you needed to know. I'm consoled by the fact that no one reads this far down!
Posted by: SummaMamaT, who is almost always last at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (84ClH)
I guess I have little stomach for psychological thrillers at all. Unless the person is a psychiatrist or a psychology hospitalist, their knowledge base is generally inadequate for me. A friend told me about another psych centered book she was reading and asked me about the character's medication. The treatment made no sense and would have landed the facility in jeopardy. I also get the same vibe from most movies and television shows, and was so amazed by how well the wrong medications worked that I stopped watching this shit.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (U7k5w)
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Regarding executions, part of the problem was that there was a lot of vengeance in the air. Payback is a bitch, etc. I think Payne notes that Franco won the bodybag sweepstakes because he won the war.
If he had lost, the Republic would definitely have outpaced his total and their killing would have gone on until their government collapsed, just like everywhere else the left takes power.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
Franco killed the people that needed killing, then he pretty much stopped.
If he had lost, the Republic would definitely have outpaced his total and their killing would have gone on until their government collapsed, just like everywhere else the left takes power.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 15, 2019 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
Franco killed the people that needed killing, then he pretty much stopped.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 01:51 PM (Ol3ZL)
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Tami--
If this isn't too late, I recommend "The Westing Game." I didn't read it until I was in my 50s, but it was recommended by two co-workers who read it when they were teenagers. It's a funny mystery and kind of quirky. I thought the heroine might be a bit young for a 13-y.o. but skimming the Amazon reviews, the appeal seems broader. Like me, many of the reviewers re-read it almost annually.
I also think (as someone suggested) Georgette Heyer would be fun, but at 13 I would have spurned them as too girly. (I'm a girl, but more nerdy than girly.)
If this isn't too late, I recommend "The Westing Game." I didn't read it until I was in my 50s, but it was recommended by two co-workers who read it when they were teenagers. It's a funny mystery and kind of quirky. I thought the heroine might be a bit young for a 13-y.o. but skimming the Amazon reviews, the appeal seems broader. Like me, many of the reviewers re-read it almost annually.
I also think (as someone suggested) Georgette Heyer would be fun, but at 13 I would have spurned them as too girly. (I'm a girl, but more nerdy than girly.)
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 15, 2019 02:26 PM (S+f+m)
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That last picture has my Mom's old coffee grinder in the background! There was a time, when we were *dirt* poor, we used it to crack whole wheat kernels for mash for breakfast. I was Chief Grinder, so I remember it well...
Meanwhile, back at the Fiction Factory, I have successfully gotten my hero in a LOT of completely undeserved trouble, and he picked up a girl (literally!) from a rooftop by accident. And it isn't even chapter 5 yet
(I'm not a vengeful god but I am very, very mischievous)
Meanwhile, back at the Fiction Factory, I have successfully gotten my hero in a LOT of completely undeserved trouble, and he picked up a girl (literally!) from a rooftop by accident. And it isn't even chapter 5 yet
(I'm not a vengeful god but I am very, very mischievous) Posted by: Sabrina Chase at December 15, 2019 02:59 PM (XK6Vj)
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I have this burr grinder and love it... and oh look, it's on sale for Christmas!
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Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 15, 2019 03:22 PM (0ReGO)
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The King's College is a good school.
I almost got hired there, but then their philandering president got the sack, and a lot of donor money followed him out the door. They cancelled all the tenure track lines that year.
I almost got hired there, but then their philandering president got the sack, and a lot of donor money followed him out the door. They cancelled all the tenure track lines that year.
Posted by: some asshole at December 15, 2019 03:39 PM (g8UuS)
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Regarding voter fraud--yes, the book (It Didn't Start With Watergate) discusses a bit of what happened in IL and TX during the 1960 election. And, like mentioned above, Nixon thought it would be best for the country if he didn't contest it. He also thought it would be best for the country if he resigned. I'm so thankful that President Trump fights back and doesn't just give in. We are in a war for the survival of our Republic and wars have to be fought.
And, regarding 2020--I agree with OM--I don't think the Dems thought they needed to cheat much in 2016, but I think they will do whatever they can get away with in 2020. And, it is most likely to occur in the purple states. I think illegals and foreign residents voting in American elections is also voting fraud. And, I think progressives, especially in CA, encourage illegals/foreign residents to vote.
And, regarding 2020--I agree with OM--I don't think the Dems thought they needed to cheat much in 2016, but I think they will do whatever they can get away with in 2020. And, it is most likely to occur in the purple states. I think illegals and foreign residents voting in American elections is also voting fraud. And, I think progressives, especially in CA, encourage illegals/foreign residents to vote.
Posted by: Violet at December 15, 2019 04:38 PM (9ppMC)
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BurtTC, I also watched The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. I agree that the 2nd season was better than the 3rd. It is disappointing but not unexpected that the writers have a leftward bent. It seems to be par for the course these days. They are the same writers who wrote Gilmore Girls, a show I also loved despite the political bent.
Posted by: Violet at December 15, 2019 04:45 PM (9ppMC)
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Tami,
When I was 13, I think I was still reading the Nancy Drew Case Files and also the Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys Super Mysteries where they team up together to solve mysteries.
I also liked:
Christy Miller and Sierra Jensen series by Robin Jones Gunn
Jennie McGrady Mysteries by Patricia RushfordThe Pratt Twins series (mysteries) by Cynthia Blair
Books by Grace Livingston HillThe Secret GardenCaddie Woodlawn
I remember that I enjoyed the Gordon Korman books about Bruno and Boots--they were funny, misadventures of two boys in school. But, the age range may be too young for a 13-year old.
When I was 13, I think I was still reading the Nancy Drew Case Files and also the Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys Super Mysteries where they team up together to solve mysteries.
I also liked:
Christy Miller and Sierra Jensen series by Robin Jones Gunn
Jennie McGrady Mysteries by Patricia RushfordThe Pratt Twins series (mysteries) by Cynthia Blair
Books by Grace Livingston HillThe Secret GardenCaddie Woodlawn
I remember that I enjoyed the Gordon Korman books about Bruno and Boots--they were funny, misadventures of two boys in school. But, the age range may be too young for a 13-year old.
Posted by: Violet at December 15, 2019 06:11 PM (9ppMC)
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Just seeing if I can fix the formatting of the above post:
Tami,
When I was 13, I think I was still reading the Nancy Drew Case Files and also the Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys Super Mysteries where they team up together to solve mysteries.
I also liked:
Christy Miller and Sierra Jensen series by Robin Jones Gunn
Jennie McGrady Mysteries by Patricia Rushford
The Pratt Twins series (mysteries) by Cynthia Blair
Books by Grace Livingston Hill
The Secret GardenCaddie Woodlawn
I remember that I enjoyed the Gordon Korman books about Bruno and Boots--they were funny, misadventures of two boys in school. But, the age range may be too young for a 13-year old.
Tami,
When I was 13, I think I was still reading the Nancy Drew Case Files and also the Nancy Drew/Hardy Boys Super Mysteries where they team up together to solve mysteries.
I also liked:
Christy Miller and Sierra Jensen series by Robin Jones Gunn
Jennie McGrady Mysteries by Patricia Rushford
The Pratt Twins series (mysteries) by Cynthia Blair
Books by Grace Livingston Hill
The Secret GardenCaddie Woodlawn
I remember that I enjoyed the Gordon Korman books about Bruno and Boots--they were funny, misadventures of two boys in school. But, the age range may be too young for a 13-year old.
Posted by: Violet at December 15, 2019 06:29 PM (9ppMC)
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If you want a gritty Santa story you should check out Kampus, The Yule Lord by Brom. An interesting blend of the Krampus and Santa Clause stories with Norse mythology set in modern America.
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