LOL: Battleground/Red State Democrats Begging and Whining for Censure Option, So They Can Avoid Voting on Impeachment and Avoid Being Sent Packing

Bear in mind, these Democrats are hurt even if they vote against impeachment. If they vote against it, they keep moderates on their side, but they lose a big chunk of their super-woke leftist base.

Any impeachment vote hurts them, whether it passes or fails, whether they vote yea or nay.

A group of House Democrats are reportedly considering censuring President Donald Trump instead of impeaching him.
A group of about 10 Democratic members of Congress, including New Jersey Rep. Josh Gottheimer, Oregon Rep. Kurt Schrader, New York Rep. Anthony Brindisi, and Utah Rep. Ben McAdams, are all reportedly open to a censure resolution of Trump instead of moving forward with impeachment, according to Politico.
"I think it's certainly appropriate and might be a little more bipartisan, who knows," Schrader told Politico on Tuesday when asked about a possible censure, adding "Time's slipping by."
"Right now, there's no other options. This is another option," another Democratic member of Congress told Politico.

As reported yesterday, impeachment is pushing Trump up, and Biden and the rest of the Democrat field down, in must-flip former Democrat strongholds Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

As House Democrats continue to increase the pressure in their impeachment inquiry of President Trump, his numbers are rising in battleground states where he’s now ahead of the top polling Democrats in the 2020 field.
Mr. Trump saw a more than a four-point boost in his numbers when compared to the Democratic frontrunner former Vice President Joe Biden in the state of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, according to polling done last week by Firehouse Strategies compared to its prior polling earlier this year.
In March Mr. Trump was down 12 points compared to Mr. Biden in Wisconsin, seven points in Pennsylvania and nearly tied in Michigan. But since the impeachment inquiry has been carrying on, Mr. Trump now leads Mr. Biden by nine points in Wisconsin, five points in Michigan and four points in Pennsylvania.

Opposition to impeachment rose higher than 50% for the first time since Pelosi announced the impeachment inquiry in the Quinnippiac poll.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:57 PM

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1 TL

Posted by: jayhawkone at December 10, 2019 05:56 PM (ZD+J8)

2 and first!

Posted by: jayhawkone at December 10, 2019 05:57 PM (ZD+J8)

3 others have been called

Posted by: jayhawkone at December 10, 2019 05:57 PM (ZD+J8)

4 top 4??

Posted by: jayhawkone at December 10, 2019 05:58 PM (ZD+J8)

5 F' em

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2019 05:58 PM (6XlcD)

6 Sorry people, the impeachment train has left the station and you are all onboard no matter what you wanted.

You do have one option though, you can vote no.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 10, 2019 05:58 PM (JUOKG)

7 Be nice to see Pelosi lose her Gavel, again.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM (+jFQz)

8
"I think it's certainly appropriate and might be a little more bipartisan, who knows," Schrader told Politico

Don't cackle too soon; this jerkoff might be on to something.

The Republican Cucks would love to compromise with the Democrats on this.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM (57dQ0)

9 lolgf

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM (1CjJc)

10 I sure do like 'em peaches.

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM (EgshT)

11 Decimated.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, bonafide pirate. at December 10, 2019 06:00 PM (Vy7tf)

12
As a Catholic, I will settle for censure. Jasper Christ teaches us to forgive.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 10, 2019 06:00 PM (M9ntN)

13 Decimated.1

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, bonafide pirate. at December 10, 2019 06:00 PM (Vy7tf)

14 Romney will be heart broken if the House Fails to Impeach.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:00 PM (+jFQz)

15 Quite a little quandry they've gotten themselves into.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 10, 2019 06:00 PM (dUJdY)

16 >>As reported yesterday, impeachment is pushing Trump up, and Biden and the rest of the Democrat field down

You forgot "unexpectedly".

Yea, that Nancy is a political savant alright.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (ZLI7S)

17 "In March Mr. Trump was down 12 points compared to Mr. Biden in Wisconsin, seven points in Pennsylvania and nearly tied in Michigan."

Has Mr. Trump notified President Trump?

Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (t+qrx)

18 Sid someone say it's time for ensure?

Posted by: Creepy old guy Joe at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (Vy7tf)

19 And the GOP senate has promised 6-8 weeks for the trial with promises to call zero controversial witnesses. The GOPe is only winning when failing.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (iLaBB)

20 Posted by: jayhawkone at December 10, 2019 05:56 PM (ZD+J

The emoticon really adds effect.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (tVQUs)

21 No, we said CENSORED, not Censured!

Posted by: Duh Dems... at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (NgKpN)

22 Censure seems to be Pelosi's last, best hope. If the impeachment shit show gets to the Senate, Trump's defense counsel will destroy the Dems.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (iDTvw)

23 7 Be nice to see Pelosi lose her Gavel, again.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM (+jFQz)

Be even nicer to see her lose her position of power completely. Which you get rid of enough fake moderate Dems and that might happen. God could you imagine if the Democrat leadership base switches to more of the socialist squad twits?

Posted by: Buzzion at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (CLxlH)

24 >>Yea, that Nancy is a political savant alright.

She cut her own throat before she even saw it coming.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (+jFQz)

25 Impeachment theater was too boring and to long for the masses to pay attention.
And take note the bribery charge vanished in thin air, they were not going to drag Crazy Uncle Joe into this.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (ZCEU2)

26
Cocksucker McConnell wants to allow the Democrats to repeat their Show Trial in the Senate, and then have a 51-49 vote to acquit.

And he'll think he did good.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (57dQ0)

27 You hear that? That's the sounds of millions of NPCs suddenly crying out in terror and suddenly silenced.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (1CjJc)

28 Imagine how stupid these leftist retards will look after a senate trial. Trump gets to reveal all Biden's graft.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (nRWPy)

29 Squirm, you leftist shitweasels, SQUIRM!!

Posted by: Sooner at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (k4rYC)

30 Trump should drag the Senate trial out till just one month before election just to keep it fresh in people's minds.

That said I hope he goes nuclear. This shit was to frighten any would be GOP candidate after Trump to toe the uniparty/deep state line, which I want to be overridden by the fear of what happens when you strike at the king and miss.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (+dsLj)

31 It had crossed my mind that maybe they would vote with Nancy letting them 'vote their conscience' aka their political lives and that it would narrowly lose, however I think Nancy believes she has the votes and it will hurt Trump politically.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (r+sAi)

32 >>No, we said CENSORED, not Censured!

I think she said Dentured?

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (+jFQz)

33 She cut her own throat before she even saw it coming.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (+jFQz)

C.M.O.T. Pelosi?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (iDTvw)

34 19 And the GOP senate has promised 6-8 weeks for the trial with promises to call zero controversial witnesses. The GOPe is only winning when failing.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (iLaBB)

Wait, so the Jury gets to decide what witnesses the Defense can call?

Posted by: Duh Dems... at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (NgKpN)

35 Pelosi has to have a floor vote for the crazies

the mods can vote no

Pelosi wont whip the vote

she hopes it fails and then they will censure

she trying to pull a jeep through her bunghole

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (rpxSz)

36 Battleground/Red State Democrats, you're on your own. I didn't get here by not covering my ass in Leftism. I dance with the Party that brought me.

Posted by: Nancy of the World of Hate at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (6eEQ+)

37 "I thought it was about time I share my holiday gift list -- a few practical items, all $10 or less.

The best one? Health care for you or somebody you care about. The deadline to sign up is December 15. Go to http://HealthCare.gov and get covered."

Posted by: @BarackObama at December 10, 2019 06:04 PM (JHvQQ)

38 These Trump district dems are in a no-win situation. Voters know a dem majority means more assholery, so they won't take the risk.

Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2019 06:04 PM (ttpW1)

39 That last jobs report must have scared the hell out of these fuckwits. Impeach the creator of the best economy any of them have ever seen.

March on lemmings.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 10, 2019 06:05 PM (fcf/y)

40 >>> Opposition to impeachment rose higher than 50% for the first time since Pelosi announced the impeachment inquiry in the Quinnippiac poll.

In a quinnie poll at that? But they study group tested everything.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 10, 2019 06:05 PM (TFV0D)

41 Every Democrat in Congress needs to be voted out and replaced with a MAGA/KAG Republican. If that doesn't happen, it'll be nothing but more of their fake bullshit impeachments for the rest of our natural lives, which is keeping us from solving problems the Dems are causing, like open borders. How many more innocent Americans need to die at the hands of illegals before this gets stopped?

Wake the fuck up, LIV's. President Trump hasn't committed any crimes and certainly hasn't done anything worth all this bullshit from the Dems. Vote them all out.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 10, 2019 06:05 PM (HaL55)

42 Buttgig got LESS votes in his second mayoral election than he did in his first. His replacement who had NO name recognition got the same number of votes as Buttgig. 9,000 votes, in a city of 100,000.

A 15% total turnout. The R candidate pulled 5,000 votes. How the hell can a candidate not be able to convince 10,000 people to vote for him, and not be able to get them to the polls?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (Vy7tf)

43 Jim Jordan was talking about this on Hannity.

Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (ttpW1)

44 They don't have the nads . . .

Posted by: Peaches at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (14URa)

45 The Republican Cucks would love to compromise with the Democrats on this.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM (57dQ0)

Without a doubt.

And they would get prime fucking time on cable and MFM network to preen their sagacity and gravitas.

The whole fucking GOP/DNC/MFM complex needs to be put up against a wall.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (Ki5SV)

46 So lessee .. Congress had long managed to garner an approval rating on par somewhere with anal herpes. Thanks to the leftist twatwaffles, the consensus now seems to be "Nuking It From Orbit Just To Be Sure" is starting to gain real traction, and that's with hardcore Democrats.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (D2xaQ)

47 Whatever they do it's DOA in the senate anyway. At least it should be. The only good part would be calling Bug Eyes McBalloon Head on the stand. But other than the entertainment value. A waste of time. The dems are fucked. The moderate ones in Trump areas will commit political suicide doing it. The others are safe politically and they are the ones in power. They have to say to the batshit constituents how much they tried. What they picked today for articles was telling! It was the weakest sauce ever made. These people are a joke. And they've made impeachment a joke.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (r7Fvf)

48 The House cannot censure the President. I mean they can pass a resolution calling him a big doodyhead but it means nothing. If they do that, the President should issue an Executive Order "censuring" very member of congress who has taken part in this farce.

Posted by: red at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (ERkyq)

49 Wehn these idiots bring up government Transparency during these Press Conferences, why hasn't a single reporter asked about the Congressional Slush Fund for Sexual Miconduct Cases?

Feed them some fucking Crow.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (+jFQz)

50 38 These Trump district dems are in a no-win situation. Voters know a dem majority means more assholery, so they won't take the risk.
Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2019 06:04 PM (ttpW1)

GOP needs a series of National Ads, highlighting all the stuff the House did NOT get done.

You know, like spending bills? Immigration reform? Infrastructure? Defense Bills? MSCA?

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (NgKpN)

51 Could we get some Ukrainians to testify that Ukraine interfered for Hillary in the 2016 election? Because that would be fun.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (nRWPy)

52 Strangely all this reminds me of the reelection of Bush the younger.

Wait stop laughing hear me out.

In 2004 we had a non stop Boosh Evil McChimpface news cycle and a tone deaf unhinged Democrat Party that went so hard left they managed to lose to W.

This time around I think we have a better slightly candidate

Posted by: Big V at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (B06Zw)

53 22 Censure seems to be Pelosi's last, best hope. If the impeachment shit show gets to the Senate, Trump's defense counsel will destroy the Dems.
Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 10, 2019 06:01 PM (iDTvw)

The dems will keep delaying the vote. If this should by any chance go to the senate, they know they lose all control over the narrative. It's not going to happen.

Posted by: Sooner at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (k4rYC)

54 Willowed: My fear on impeachment is, there are not 51 senators who aren't dirty.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (LOq4H)

55 Democrat leadership base switches to more of the socialist squad twits?
Posted by: Buzzion ..

Yikes!

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (0js53)

56 >>Jim Jordan was talking about this on Hannity.

Jim Jordan is an Ass Slapper from way back.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (+jFQz)

57 Remember Sloppy Choppers took the speaker position and said one more time and that was it if she got it.

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (ZCEU2)

58 Some rat. ..guess we'll find out

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (0js53)

59 Please win the popular vote! Please, oh please! I hope all the blue state conservatives will come out of the woodwork in their liberal hell holes and vote for the golden scalp weasel. It would be a huge fucking mandate. A big fuck you to the libs and the deep staters.

Posted by: Max Power at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (q177U)

60 Once more unto impeach, dear friends, once more;
or close up the wall with your Democrat dead.

Posted by: Nancy V at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (ldmQR)

61 Buttplug should take Nadler for his VP

just for the bumper comedy alone

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (rpxSz)

62 This is not who I am. Wait, who am I?

Posted by: Mittens Rombley at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (EgshT)

63 This was predicted.

Posted by: freaked, prophet at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (Tnijr)

64 >>Could we get some Ukrainians to testify that Ukraine interfered for Hillary in the 2016 election? Because that would be fun.

According to Rudy, yes.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)

65 At this point, I'm all for the full-on trial in the Senate.

I'm asking y'all though, for your Nominees, of who should be Trump's Lead Attorney in said trial, and who all else should comprise the rest of his team.

At best though, Rudy should be "of counsel" to the team, and not on the active list of "arguing" attorneys.

Who is THE Pit Bull to savage the Dem opposition in this?

Any room for a Mark Levin on the team?

I'm off to work for the next few hours, so I'll hang up and tune-in for y'all's replies.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 10, 2019 06:09 PM (QzJWU)

66 The thing is I don't trust the senate, no there will be no conviction, however, I have no doubt they will allow more Trump bashing and no Biden bashing. And they will pretend the charges have merit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:09 PM (r+sAi)

67 Some rat. ..guess we'll find out

Posted by: willow

True. *starts braiding rope*

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:09 PM (LOq4H)

68 A group of House Democrats are reportedly considering censuring President Donald Trump instead of impeaching him.

Again I ask, "Why?" What law has President Trump broken? And I expect an answer that has a statute number after it and solid proof he did it, not some mealy-mouthed, half-assed accusation.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 10, 2019 06:09 PM (HaL55)

69 Wait, so the Jury gets to decide what witnesses the Defense can call?

Posted by: Duh Dems... at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (NgKpN)

The entire Senate votes on the rules of the trial. Without 51 votes the Bidens won't testify.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (CQ3Qb)

70 Garrett. I imagine everyone should send that chick videos of sports players all slapping their pals.. Maybe she would look at her 'loss of power ..differently

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (0js53)

71 Ace that eager about the Jersey City mass murder
Drudge is reporting that it occurred at a Kosher supermarket
My bet is that they were right wing white nationalists

Posted by: Kurt at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (fu5Wk)

72 According to Rudy, yes.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)

He was promising some Ukraine stuff. Did he release?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (1CjJc)

73 #64 look for Killary to off some Ukrainian talkers.

Posted by: torabora at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (hSXql)

74 That said I hope he goes nuclear. This shit was to frighten any would be GOP candidate after Trump to toe the uniparty/deep state line, which I want to be overridden by the fear of what happens when you strike at the king and miss.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:02 PM (+dsLj)

Yeah, I'm going to be that guy.

Trump had one chance to go nuclear - January 20, 2016. The moment his hand came off the Bible, he should have had Scankles dragged off in chains. But he decided to go by the rules and make a mockery of "Lock her up." So here we are, three years later, and a majority of us are convinced that the worst that will happen is that some no-name schmoe out of a field office in East Sodomy, AK, will get a stern finger-wagging and a letter of reprimand.

Yeah, I'm in a foul mood. **shrugs** No need to read my comments if you don't want to. I either vent here or drink myself into a coma.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (Ki5SV)

75 In 2004 we had a non stop Boosh Evil McChimpface news cycle and a tone deaf unhinged Democrat Party that went so hard left they managed to lose to W.

*********************

Lol, it was telling that even with the afterglow of 9/11 patriotism still on people's minds Bush still almost lost to Lurch's twin brother.

Then we got McCain and Romney as our subsequent choices. Not merely RINOs, THE WORST POSSIBLE FUCKING SELLOUT RINOs the GOP could give us.

We need a new party. A Trumpican party, classy and luxurious, believe me.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (+dsLj)

76 Jeff Van Drew NJ 2nd has gone silent after being very vocal opposed to impeachment.

If I were a skeptic Id be guessing he got the 'STFU' phone call from Pelosi's office.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (WQZ1O)

77 67 Some rat. ..guess we'll find out

Posted by: willow

* unlocks minx cage *

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (rpxSz)

78 Anyone have the approval rating for the House of Reps? I see some online for the whole Congress, but not just for the House.

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (NgKpN)

79 (more accurately...)

Once more unto impeach, dear friends, once more;
and close up the wall with your Democrat dead.

Posted by: Donny V at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (ldmQR)

80 Wouldn't Trump take a censure as an award and go politicking with it?
Yes, yes he would other Moron.

Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (FhXTo)

81 As a Catholic, I will settle for censure. Jasper Christ teaches us to forgive.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 10, 2019 06:00 PM (M9ntN)

And as Jasper once said unto the Trilobites:

"My kingdom is not of this here world.

If it were, I'd have my own double-wide and a double -barrel shotgun and then them Jews couldn't arrest me, I'll tell you what .

But now my kingdom is from another place...near Possum Nest Arkansas.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (9X624)

82 Censure... FOR WHAT?
Being a big meanie?
We hereby censure Big Meanie Trump for being a Big Meanie.
All in favor vote "Arf".

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (v0R5T)

83 "I think it's certainly appropriate and might be a little more bipartisan, who knows," Schrader told Politico

Don't cackle too soon; this jerkoff might be on to something.

The Republican Cucks would love to compromise with the Democrats on this.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 05:59 PM

---

If that was going to happen we would have seen those republicans vote for impeachment hearings already and not a single one did.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (JUOKG)

84 ZZZzzzzZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (K4I9O)

85 A group of House Democrats are reportedly considering censuring President Donald Trump instead of impeaching him.

Again I ask, "Why?" What law has President Trump broken? And I expect an answer that has a statute number after it and solid proof he did it, not some mealy-mouthed, half-assed accusation.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy

Patience grasshopper.
Criminal referrals.

LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (BN/jk)

86 Please win the popular vote! Please, oh please! I hope all the blue state conservatives will come out of the woodwork in their liberal hell holes and vote for the golden scalp weasel. It would be a huge fucking mandate. A big fuck you to the libs and the deep staters.
Posted by: Max Power at December 10, 2019 06:08 PM (q177U)

I want Trump to lose the popular vote states but win the national PV - which compels their electors to cast their votes for him - and I want him to thank the voters in those states, and the NPC dems who pushed it, in his reelection speech.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (t+qrx)

87 76 Jeff Van Drew NJ 2nd has gone silent after being very vocal opposed to impeachment.

If I were a skeptic Id be guessing he got the 'STFU' phone call from Pelosi's office.
Posted by: BluesFish at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (WQZ1O)

I think not

Pelosi wants this to fail

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (rpxSz)

88 I think Trump could win the popular vote as it currently stands. He has made big inroads into certain dem constituencies. And the dem candidate is certain to be a loon at this point. But CA and NY can really run up the score, so its a tough nut to crack.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (r+sAi)

89 Mollie Hemingway on Bret Baier's show.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (ptqGC)

90 Wait, so the Jury gets to decide what witnesses the Defense can call?

I'm pretty sure the GOPe will reach across the aisle and agree to a Jury of individuals vetted by the DNC and George Soros.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (bFkYZ)

91 76. His county demonrat machine has threatened to primary him.

Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (ttpW1)

92 Washington D.C. you're Fired.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (jKBVK)

93 Trump had one chance to go nuclear - January 20, 2016. The moment his hand came off the Bible, he should have had Scankles dragged off in chains.

*************

I don't think that was his only chance, but yeah he should have started day one and fired 99% of the federal fucking bureaucracy. It would have been better go to rudderless than see this shit.

But I don't think even Trump understood just how deep the rabbit hole was.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (+dsLj)

94 Old Charlie stole the handle and
The train it won't stop going
No way to slow down

Posted by: Ventura Highway at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (M+Lyo)

95 71 Ace that eager about the Jersey City mass murder
Drudge is reporting that it occurred at a Kosher supermarket
My bet is that they were right wing white nationalists

You'd be wrong... Two AA underagers and 1 Black male who got away... Looks like they were confronted at a cemetery for a murder and shot the cop and preceded to deli where either they or the cops killed 3 people during shoot out... The two perps were also killed

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (6XlcD)

96 Mollie Hemingway on Bret Baier's show.

She's great

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (6XlcD)

97 Is this where the standard issue squish "Conservative" Republicans accept the leftist premise and deign to treat the premise of Democrat fecal festival as valid? Roll over and apologize for something the prezdent isn't guilty of?

Remember Sen. Grassley intoning about "Whistleblowers"? Jeeze Louise that is tone deaf.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (D2xaQ)

98 >>He was promising some Ukraine stuff. Did he release?

He's been releasing stuff in dribs and drabs. His latest claim is that he has evidence that Amb Yovanovitch lied in her testimony to Congress about giving the head prosecutor in Ukraine a list of people he could not prosecute.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (ZLI7S)

99 69 Wait, so the Jury gets to decide what witnesses the Defense can call?

Posted by: Duh Dems... at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM (NgKpN)

The entire Senate votes on the rules of the trial. Without 51 votes the Bidens won't testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (CQ3Qb)

That makes no sense at all.

So if a majority wanted to convict, they could just put up a rule that the President can't call any witnesses?

Kind of like, oh, shit, the HOUSE just did?

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (NgKpN)

100 BackwardsBoy: "Again I ask, 'Why?' What law has President Trump broken?..."

As we all know, this was never about law. It was about feelz that could be sold to illegitimately reclaim power that was intentionally removed from them. Law has nothing to do with this; never did and, looking to our future, never will.

Which sucks donkey balls because we used to be a serious nation.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (6eEQ+)

101 Mollie is seated next to Steve Hayes.

Hayes just agreed with a point Mollie made.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (ptqGC)

102 Ah, Kurt is here to assist with my enema.

Posted by: Mittens Rombley at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (EgshT)

103 I'm pretty sure the GOPe will reach across the aisle and agree to a Jury of individuals vetted by the DNC and George Soros.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (bFkYZ)

That's exactly what will happen. The Senate doesn't want anyone looking into their children's financial shenanigans and so far the media has complied.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (CQ3Qb)

104 You know what Americans don't like?

Bullies.

You know what Americans do like?

Fighters.

You know what Americans love?

Fighting back against bullies.

Most normal human beings are very capable of seeing that Trump hits back, not that he hits first.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (GbPPJ)

105 Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (ZLI7S)

Thanks. And still, thanks for keeping us informed.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (1CjJc)

106 The entire Senate votes on the rules of the trial. Without 51 votes the Bidens won't testify.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (CQ3Qb)

I do not think that is the case but even if it is, the Rs will be hearing plenty from their constituents about due process and acting like Dems.

Posted by: red at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (ERkyq)

107 A group of House Democrats are reportedly considering censuring President Donald Trump instead of impeaching him.

Again I ask, "Why?" What law has President Trump broken? And I expect an answer that has a statute number after it and solid proof he did it, not some mealy-mouthed, half-assed accusation.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 10, 2019 06:09 PM

Every sane person knows there was no real crime. They are trying to save face with the loony factor. The hardcore batshit factor will settle for nothing less than Trump's head on a pike. They are going to be screaming at the sky harder than election night and even crazier when he gets elected again. Dipshits have fired all their bullets and there's an entire division coming at them. LOLGF.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (r7Fvf)

108 >>>Whatever they do it's DOA in the senate anyway.

Why would Mitch give up an opportunity this big To delve into so much Democrat conspiracy.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (TFV0D)

109 Someone from Democrats House leadership stated that censure "is not an option".

So vote, you lying cowardly Demorats.

Posted by: Heacock Gypsy at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (MLLK4)

110 Heard this afternoon on the radio that McConnell said there will be no trial in the Senate before Christmas. He then went on to say that there will be no vote on he USMCA before 2020, because that vote will not take place before the Senate trial, it will only take place after.

So the Dems have an impeachment for nothing vote sitting on their laps, and they will go home and say we voted to impeach and now the Republicans are holding up the trade deal with Mexico and Canada that we had to go in and fix.

Meanwhile, the stupid Dems have managed to muck up the trade deal, which will now have to be voted on in the Senate for ratification. I can only imagine the garbage the House has put in this bill.
AND even if it manages to be ratified by all the players in the USA, it will have to go back to Mexico and Canada to be re ratified by them. The reporter on FBN said that Canada has had an election since the USMCA was passed previously, so they will have to start all over again on the ratification process.

The Dems are crowing like they just created this trade agreement, Trump had nothing to do with it, and just watch, when it doesn't end up in agreement with Canada and Mexico, suddenly the blame will be on Trump. Right before the election.

These people have zero interest in anything good for the country.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (I3OPu)

111 Please win the popular vote! Please, oh please! I hope all the blue state conservatives will come out of the woodwork in their liberal hell holes and vote for the golden scalp weasel. It would be a huge fucking mandate. A big fuck you to the libs and the deep staters.

*******************

I look forward to California handing their electors to Trump. The schadenfreudery would be epic.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (+dsLj)

112 The main thing for the Dems is to make PDT look as bad as possible, which would not be possible without the propagandists.

It occurs to me that we are dealing with illogical people in a logical way. That will never work. We need some kind of twisted non-euclidean logic to deal with these folks.

Posted by: freaked at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (Tnijr)

113 Trump rally gonna be lit AF.

Posted by: Ha at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (6A9Kg)

114 Ah, Kurt is here to assist with my enema.

Posted by: Mittens Rombley at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (EgshT)

When he's done with you, send him over to MSDNC. Brennan was just on F. Chuck Todd's show, and looked like he was in desperate need of one.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (ptqGC)

115 Bury them.

Posted by: jeff carter at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (c73GF)

116 So if a majority wanted to convict, they could just put up a rule that the President can't call any witnesses?

Kind of like, oh, shit, the HOUSE just did?

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (NgKpN)

For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

117
I don't think that was his only chance, but yeah he should have started day one and fired 99% of the federal fucking bureaucracy. It would have been better go to rudderless than see this shit.

But I don't think even Trump understood just how deep the rabbit hole was.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (+dsLj)

Staff. He had no support.

If Barr had been AG instead of Sessions? we would be much further along.

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (NgKpN)

118 Strangely all this reminds me of the reelection of Bush the younger.

Wait stop laughing hear me out.

In 2004 we had a non stop Boosh Evil McChimpface news cycle and a tone deaf unhinged Democrat Party that went so hard left they managed to lose to W.

This time around I think we have a better slightly candidate
Posted by: Big V at December 10, 2019 06:07 PM (B06Zw)

The MSM is orders of magnitude weaker. Even with Big Tech's help rather than setting the conversation they are just trying to censor the real sources of news.

The Dems have less money, less union support, and are at war with each other.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (eoQWY)

119 Most normal human beings are very capable of seeing that Trump hits back, not that he hits first.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM

This! That's why I love him! He fights! I remember screaming at W Bush. All the vile shit said about him and he'd just nod etc. Used to drive me nuts. Fight man!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (r7Fvf)

120 88 I think Trump could win the popular vote as it currently stands. He has made big inroads into certain dem constituencies. And the dem candidate is certain to be a loon at this point. But CA and NY can really run up the score, so its a tough nut to crack.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (r+sAi)

If the polls reflect a fait accompli for a Trump win

then maybe

but they never will give him that

they know it would depress the lefty vote, esp in CA

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (rpxSz)

121 All this stuff about battleground states is completely alien to me. Like reading about a different nation, culture, time and place. I live in one of those "solid blue" districts, so solid blue that even "normal" Democrats are laughed off the stage as ludicrously right-wing.

Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (fK2gX)

122 But I don't think even Trump understood just how deep the rabbit hole was.
I sure the hell didn't and I thought it was pretty damn deep. One of the best things about Trump is the enlightening of the deep state.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (r+sAi)

123 Census to dismiss and move on Mitch. Merry fucking Christmas.

Posted by: Sherpa_K2 at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (BsCoj)

124 I don't think that was his only chance, but yeah he should have started day one and fired 99% of the federal fucking bureaucracy. It would have been better go to rudderless than see this shit.

But I don't think even Trump understood just how deep the rabbit hole was.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM (+dsLj)

Staff. He had no support.

If Barr had been AG instead of Sessions? we would be much further along.
Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (NgKpN)

He was pinned down by the "insurance policy" Russiagate investigation. Only since Mueller has he had much freedom of action.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (eoQWY)

125 I see another Bush is running for some office in TX. Pierce Bush.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:17 PM (ptqGC)

126 >>Thanks. And still, thanks for keeping us informed.

No worries.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:18 PM (ZLI7S)

127 Winter Musings, Still Without a Job

Hickory dickory dock,
A mouse ran up my cock.
The clock struck three,
I had to pee,
Hickory dickory dock.

Hickory dickory do,
My cock is filled with poo.
Hickory dee,
Snickory snee,
Hickory dickory do.

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 10, 2019 06:18 PM (QE8X6)

128 6 dead reported dead in Jersey City. One LEO and 3 civilians plus two dirtbags.

But you know, drug offenses are a victimless crime and we should all jump on the "early release" bandwagon for these misunderstood youth.

I'm looking at you GOP governor of Oklahoma.

Think this will be blamed on drugs or guns? I know where my money is going down.

Posted by: Heacock Gypsy at December 10, 2019 06:18 PM (MLLK4)

129 LOL! Mollie Hemingway laying waste to the NeverTrump media.

Steve Hayes is just sitting there staring straight ahead.

hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (ptqGC)

130 "These people have zero interest in anything good for the country."

If you knew for a fact that they are die-hard communists, could we expect them to act any differently?

This is one of those "to ask the question is to answer it" questions.

Posted by: Citizen of Hope (just a sliver and not Arkansas) at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (ldmQR)

131 Colon Allred, my rep, may have to get a job. Sad.

Posted by: x at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (nFwvY)

132 Think this will be blamed on drugs or guns? I know where my money is going down.

Supposedly the perps were stopped in another location in regards to another murder then they shot the cop

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (6XlcD)

133 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

Just put up the same bill - he can call who he wants. Dare them to deny the President representation in his defense.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (eoQWY)

134 I'd bang this gavel, but I don't have any lube.
Don't mess with me, the day is young! As my tits rest on this podium, this cud I will chew. I pray for the president, I PRAY FOR ALL OF YOU.

Posted by: Nutzi Palsy at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (v0R5T)

135 Pierce Bush.

Ewwwwww! Who wants to do that!!!

Posted by: Shep! at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (9X624)

136 112
The main thing for the Dems is to make PDT look as bad as possible, which would not be possible without the propagandists.

Posted by: freaked at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (Tnijr)

How? They haven't moved the needle of his base or their base. Their base is convinced he is the Debil!!!1. Independents and moderate dems seem to be fed up with Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler's BS after three months, if anything.
Censure is an epic loss to their base, and epic win for his. Even a House impeachment vote is a mere stroke to their feelers, the magic of which will wear off in less than a week's time.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (1CjJc)

137 The entire Senate votes on the rules of the trial. Without 51 votes the Bidens won't testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

I believe one plays by the rules, the rules ones enemy makes.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:20 PM (LOq4H)

138 The entire Senate votes on the rules of the trial. Without 51 votes the Bidens won't testify.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:10 PM (CQ3Qb)

Don't they need 60 votes for something like impeachment framework? Which is why everyone is telling Trump that Biden, Comey, and the entire contingent of criminals will not be testifying in a trial?

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:20 PM (I3OPu)

139 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted
100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen
here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that
there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others
involved in foreign graft) to testify.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

Slight correction - all of Clinton's witnesses were taped. The Senate didn't allow live witnesses for Clinton's trial.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:20 PM (CQ3Qb)

140 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

Trump can find a diplomatic way to ask to call who he wants or he can publicly call for any/all his supporters to come on down to DC and put in a good word for him.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2019 06:20 PM (1g7ch)

141 I'm pretty sure the GOPe will reach across the aisle and agree to a Jury of individuals vetted by the DNC and George Soros.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at December 10, 2019 06:13 PM

You are far too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 10, 2019 06:20 PM (vjm8B)

142 Speaking of judges some female judge in KY (no pun intended) is under fire for threesomes and booze in the office. She's a solid 6 so it's a good story.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (r7Fvf)

143 108
>>>Whatever they do it's DOA in the senate anyway.

Why would Mitch give up an opportunity this big To delve into so much Democrat conspiracy.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 10, 2019 06:15 PM (TFV0D)

But would he? How many R Senators also have exposure to the Ukraine corruption?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (1CjJc)

144 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

If the Repubs pull that crap? They may lose the Senate.

I know I would not vote for anyone who pulled that. Its so against ANY form of Justice as to be patently UnAmerican.

I'd crawl over glass to vote for Trump, but would leave the Senate blank if they pull that crap.

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

145 I want Trump to lose the popular vote states but win the national PV - which compels their electors to cast their votes for him - and I want him to thank the voters in those states, and the NPC dems who pushed it, in his reelection speech.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2019 06:12 PM (t+qrx)

All those laws on the books say they don't take effect until 270 ev of states also vote in such laws.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

146 Nobody's willing to challenge my superior intellect, I see...

Posted by: Kunt at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (sWM8x)

147 As Rush recalls from his DJ days..
You cant get in trouble for a song you never played..

I guess for politics, you dont get blamed for a vote that never happens.

But Pelosi is determined to make them walk the plank...

Posted by: McCool at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (KvRqW)

148 This is already backfiring on them...on the left! Their own side sees the nothingburger charges as extremely weak sauce when they were expecting the treasonous traitor Putin-puppet OrangeMan to have every book in the library thrown at him.

Hee hee.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (U7qMl)

149 Just put up the same bill - he can call who he wants. Dare them to deny the President representation in his defense.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:19 PM (eoQWY)

Romney, Sasse, Murkowski and possibly even Graham would vote against it. Maybe more. Every Senator with children knows they're next.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (CQ3Qb)

150 I think Trump could win the popular vote as it currently stands. He has made big inroads into certain dem constituencies.

**********************************

I think Trump will get it, particularly because the first time around a lot of voters thought Trump was a closet democrat or spoiler who was just there to ensure a Hillary win and barely pulled the lever for him, if at all.

I think the next time around we'll be a bit more enthusiastic.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (+dsLj)

151 142 Speaking of judges some female judge in KY (no pun intended) is under fire for threesomes and booze in the office. She's a solid 6 so it's a good story.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (r7Fvf)

Yup, here cum da Judge! here cum da Judge!

Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (NgKpN)

152 Why would Mitch give up an opportunity this big To delve into so much Democrat conspiracy.

Because he does not want to know about the Democrat conspiracy?

It's like knowing who is committing crimes in your workplace. If you don't look away, people can make your life... unpleasant at best.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (bFkYZ)

153 142
Speaking of judges some female judge in KY (no pun intended) is under
fire for threesomes and booze in the office. She's a solid 6 so it's a
good story.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (r7Fvf)

I think she gets at least a 1 point bump for being adventurous and having access to genuine role play accoutrements.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (1CjJc)

154 At least for Clinton's impeachment we had tales of a crooked duck, and lurid tomes of cigar penetration. What do we got here- Twitter posts?

Booring.

Posted by: Heacock Gypsy at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (MLLK4)

155
Speaking of judges some female judge in KY (no pun intended) is under fire for threesomes and booze in the office. She's a solid 6 so it's a good story.

Posted by: Minnfidel

All Rise!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM (57dQ0)

156 If the Repubs pull that crap? They may lose the Senate.

I know I would not vote for anyone who pulled that. Its so against ANY form of Justice as to be patently UnAmerican.

I'd crawl over glass to vote for Trump, but would leave the Senate blank if they pull that crap.
Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

I don't trust the spineless GOPe Senate at all.
Not. At. All.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (aS1PU)

157 Did we lose Kurt?

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (0js53)

158 145 I want Trump to lose the popular vote states but win the national PV - which compels their electors to cast their votes for him

I was thinking the same...BUT...you know they'd go running to the hacks in black to get their own decision declared illegal.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (U7qMl)

159 It takes a 2/3rds vote in the senate for impeachment anyway. It's a waste of time at this point. But that's what dems do. They are like the brothers in Trading Places. Turn that thing back on!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (r7Fvf)

160
If the Repubs pull that crap? They may lose the Senate.

I know I would not vote for anyone who pulled that. Its so against ANY form of Justice as to be patently UnAmerican.

I'd crawl over glass to vote for Trump, but would leave the Senate blank if they pull that crap.
Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN

------

Yeah, it's "we may not have the votes to call 'controversial' witnesses."

"Controversial" = "Former Senators and their cronies, with whom we're still very collegial and strongly prefer to the nasty orange man."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (AzW6q)

161 All those laws on the books say they don't take effect until 270 ev of states also vote in such laws.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (eoQWY)

Aw.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (t+qrx)

162 49 Wehn these idiots bring up government Transparency during these Press Conferences, why hasn't a single reporter asked about the Congressional Slush Fund for Sexual Miconduct Cases.

I'll take 'Congressional Retirees' for $100, Alex

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (Vy7tf)

163 She's a solid 6 so it's a good story.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (r7Fvf)

She's at best a very dark night 4 and a half.

Posted by: jsg at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (G0in+)

164 Hillary will rise to the Dem rescue in July at the convention of nutters. She will get the nom and fracture the Dem party into pieces.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (cpLq8)

165 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

If the Repubs pull that crap? They may lose the Senate.

I know I would not vote for anyone who pulled that. Its so against ANY form of Justice as to be patently UnAmerican.

I'd crawl over glass to vote for Trump, but would leave the Senate blank if they pull that crap.
Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

The Reps better understand they're on the hook too...if they don't fight this huge miscarriage of justice.

They better be ready to fight or lose their phone-baloney jobs.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (9X624)

166 116:

"For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify."

Imagine if the duplicitous little cocksucker didn't have a contested primary followed by a general in a state where Trump is wildly popular. I have exactly zero expectations he will allow key witnesses to be called because he's up to his neck in the early stages of the coup attempt. And McConnell sure as hell doesn't want to open up the foreign corruption aspect of this case.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (iw59Q)

167 Josh Gottheimer is my representative, and he is a loathsome cocksucker who will do and say anything. He has no principles, no honor, no love of country.

Short answer...he's a Democrat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (wYseH)

168 Ugh this cold flu has had me in bed for several days

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (0js53)

169 Battleground/Red State Democrats Begging and Whining for Censure Option

A sternly-worded letter?! Who do you guys think you are?

Posted by: GOPe at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (aKxkI)

170 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

changing the rules is how you get Emperor Trump, because if we're gonna change the rules we're gonna change them.

Posted by: x at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (nFwvY)

171 Speaking of judges some female judge in KY (no pun intended) is under
fire for threesomes and booze in the office. She's a solid 6 so it's a
good story.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (r7Fvf)

I think she gets at least a 1 point bump for being adventurous and having access to genuine role play accoutrements.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:22 PM

Family Court Judge.

Still still rules in favor of the wife every time though.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (1g7ch)

172 Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2019 06:14 PM (ZLI7S)

Thanks. And still, thanks for keeping us informed.

Seconded.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (HaL55)

173 If these so-called moderates didn't want to vote for impeachment, they shouldn't have voted - each and every one of them - for HR 660 authorizing the impeachment proceedings.

Tough shit peeps. You made the bed, you get to lie in it.

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (ZfRYq)

174 A party-line vote is pure Trump re-election fuel.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (hbTkw)

175 157 Did we lose Kurt?
Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (0js53)

fraid so

think the pierced bush was too much for him

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (rpxSz)

176 C.M.O.T. Pelosi?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 10, 2019 06:03 PM

So that's why we weren't encouraged to know what was in the Obamacare pie...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (rBtIz)

177 The Reps better understand they're on the hook too...if they don't fight this huge miscarriage of justice.

They better be ready to fight or lose their phone-baloney jobs.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (9X624)

They also understand that all of their kids have shady financial dealings that only exist because Dad is a Senator. If this whole thing is an Op don't you think that's a bigger threat by the people running it?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (CQ3Qb)

178 I sure the hell didn't and I thought it was pretty damn deep. One of the best things about Trump is the enlightening of the deep state.

****************

Not just that but what a bunch of treasonous fucks the Bushites turned out to be.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (+dsLj)

179 So, as is customary, the Democrats break every fucking law in the Federal Register in furtherance of their power grabs, and the goddamned Republicans are still in the "Can't Get There From Here" mode?

Yeah, as far as I'm concerned they are 100% FUCKING COMPLICIT in the whole thing.

Occam's Razor. Nothing else fits. I hope they all fucking die in a fire.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (D2xaQ)

180 Willow - plenty of fluids of the non alcohol kind and rest

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (ZCEU2)

181 Speaking of the Senate, John James has pulled ahead in polls in the race between himself and Gary Peters for Peter"s Michigan US Senate seat for the first time since he announced.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (I3OPu)

182 Did we lose Kurt?
Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM

When you're out of Kurt, you're out of ...

Posted by: zombie Walter Cronkite at December 10, 2019 06:26 PM (RY7ZM)

183 She's a solid 6 so it's a good story.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (r7Fvf)

She's at best a very dark night 4 and a half.
Posted by: jsg at December 10, 2019 06:23 PM (G0in+)

You see them ears, might make good handles

Posted by: Ventura Highway at December 10, 2019 06:26 PM (M+Lyo)

184 why hasn't a single reporter asked about the Congressional Slush Fund for Sexual Miconduct Cases.

Why would we? We already know about it (obviously, being part of the same union)

Posted by: The Democrat Press Agency at December 10, 2019 06:26 PM (gHCnG)

185 "165 For Clinton's impeachment trial the Senate voted 100-0 to allow Clinton to cal whomever he wished. That will not happen here, we're already hearing rumblings by Graham and a few others that there aren't enough votes for rules that force the Bidens (among others involved in foreign graft) to testify.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:16 PM (CQ3Qb)

If the Repubs pull that crap? They may lose the Senate.

I know I would not vote for anyone who pulled that. Its so against ANY form of Justice as to be patently UnAmerican.

I'd crawl over glass to vote for Trump, but would leave the Senate blank if they pull that crap.
Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

The Reps better understand they're on the hook too...if they don't fight this huge miscarriage of justice.

They better be ready to fight or lose their phone-baloney jobs."

McConnell laid out a helpful list of things Trump could do to keep shaky GOP senators in line. Here's a helpful suggestion to McConnell: tell your caucus that even one defection will be considered a failure on your point, and that defector will be targeted with actual hell. I already look forward to donating to Murkowski's primary opponent over her Kavanaugh vote, and that's likely not an outlier, so she's probably gone anyhow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2019 06:26 PM (iw59Q)

186 Mollie Hemingway vs. Senorita Steve Hayes (and his college BF Bret Baier, and another leftie) on Special Report
I hope Mollie takes Hayes' head off, but she can't -- Brett Baier will rush in to protect his college butt buddy, as usual, and will probably try to get Mollie in trouble with Bill Sammon.
Mollie's got that suppressed smirk going like she's getting read to smash this grifter in the face.
Brett set up the panel so that he's got a lefty and Mollie on, and his butt buddy Steven Hayes can pose as the "reasonable centrist in the middle."
Oh boy, she just said "NeverTrump media" (Steve Hayes!) was "utterly humiliated" by the IG Report.
La Senorita Steve, ella es morta! Es morta!

Posted by: ace at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (PbpT7)

187
Family Court Judge.

Still still rules in favor of the wife every time though.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (1g7ch)

"How did court go, Bob?"

"Well, my wife got everything, plus alimony and the kids. On the other hand, I got bent over and reamed by the judge."

"Man, that's awful."

"Tell me about it. My next court date isn't until next Thursday."

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (wCmLp)

188 Contoversial = anyone the Dems don't want to be heard from.

These nancy boys won't nut up to take this to the Dems. If the best we can get out of them is a quick dismissal of the charge(s), then go for that.

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (ZfRYq)

189 181 Speaking of the Senate, John James has pulled ahead in polls in the race between himself and Gary Peters for Peter"s Michigan US Senate seat for the first time since he announced.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (I3OPu)

I have a hard time believing that. We have a bad habit of re-electing Democrat Senators.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (+mbOC)

190 How do you shoot the ~~devil~~ Golden Scalp Weasel in the back? What if you miss?

Posted by: Nancy 'Verbal' Pelosi at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (rBtIz)

191 Well until I'm better you guys are again stuck with me hanging around.

( I suffer.you suffer)

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (0js53)

192
Pelousy said she and the Democrats made the MCA trade deal "infinitely better than the original proposal."

1. Either she's full of shit and just trying to take credit for this like it's the Democrats' doing.

2. She loaded it with bullshit.

If #2, President Trump should shred it when it comes to his desk.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (57dQ0)

193 Graham doesn't want to bring in the Bidens, Schiff, or any of these other clearly material witnesses because he doesn't want to let the cat out of the bag: that Ukraine is a giant trough that both parties have been feeding from. He's probably also trying to protect the legacy of that POS McCain.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (nu45M)

194 All I know is this entire impeachment bullshit has me energized more than I have EVER been. I was pretty young during Reagan, voted for him but still pretty non political. Then from there held my nose every damn time because turd lite. Trump fights, I'll help him. Fck these socialist deep state fcks.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:28 PM (r7Fvf)

195 167 Josh Gottheimer is my representative, and he is a loathsome cocksucker who will do and say anything. He has no principles, no honor, no love of country.

I like the guy already

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:28 PM (rpxSz)

196 Brett set up the panel so that he's got a lefty and
Mollie on, and his butt buddy Steven Hayes can pose as the "reasonable
centrist in the middle."

Oh boy, she just said "NeverTrump media" (Steve Hayes!) was "utterly humiliated" by the IG Report.

La Senorita Steve, ella es morta! Es morta!

Posted by: ace at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (PbpT7)

It was hilarious when Mollie went off on the NeverTrump media, with Steve sitting there, not knowing where to look. Except at his buddy, Bret, I guess.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (ptqGC)

197 147 As Rush recalls from his DJ days..
You cant get in trouble for a song you never played..

I guess for politics, you dont get blamed for a vote that never happens.

But Pelosi is determined to make them walk the plank...

Posted by: McCool at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (KvRqW)

I don't think that analogy works. They hyped impeachment from 9:00PM on election night 2016. To not do it would mean Dems stay home on election night 2020. Either that or they form a Green/Socialist independent party to beat up the Democrats.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (zBaqJ)

198 Molly's the bomb

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (0js53)

199
2. She loaded it with bullshit.

If #2, President Trump should shred it when it comes to his desk

It's #2 and Turtle isn't gonna take it up till after the "trial"he said

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (6XlcD)

200 They also understand that all of their kids have shady financial dealings that only exist because Dad is a Senator. If this whole thing is an Op don't you think that's a bigger threat by the people running it?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (CQ3Qb)

I think the GOP senators can cut a deal that lets Trump defend himself while shielding their little peccadillos for the moment. Trump was in the Ukraine investigating Crossfire Hurricaine, not the Bidens. The Biden angle is only to have the Dems defending what can't be defended rather than what is really going on.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (eoQWY)

201 If the Repubs pull that crap? They may lose the Senate.

I know I would not vote for anyone who pulled that. Its so against ANY form of Justice as to be patently UnAmerican.

I'd crawl over glass to vote for Trump, but would leave the Senate blank if they pull that crap.
Posted by: Don Q at December 10, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

As much as I like Mollie H, it isn't enough to tempt me into watching that sniveling pecksniff Brett Baier.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (aS1PU)

202 They don't need the Bidens, Brennan etc.... they just need to make a big show presenting the Ukraine evidence and the Russia Hoax. But I doubt they will, it will most likely be kabuki ending in a bi-partisan vote for conviction, but not enough.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (r+sAi)

203 And as Jasper once said unto the Trilobites:

"My kingdom is not of this here world.

If it were, I'd have my own double-wide and a double -barrel shotgun and then them Jews couldn't arrest me, I'll tell you what .

But now my kingdom is from another place...near ~~Possum Nest~~ Toad Suck, Arkansas.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 10, 2019 06:11 PM (9X624)

Posted by: Tammy al Thor at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (4Uoqt)

204 willow, do you have a humidifier? I swear by them in the winter time.

Not that I'm trying to get you better so you'll leave us, but I do want you to feel better.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (/669Q)

205 There are no moderates now.

"They say in Harlan County.
There are no neutrals there.
You'll either be a union man,
Or a thug for J.H. Blair.

Which side are you on, boys?
Which side are you on?"

Posted by: mnw at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (Cssks)

206 Shit quoted the wrong comment.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (aS1PU)

207 You see them ears, might make good handles
Posted by: Ventura Highway at December 10, 2019 06:26 PM

Saw a different pic with her hair down and a tight blue sweater on. Yea. I mean a closing time 6 but she's a judge so, there's that.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (r7Fvf)

208 191 Well until I'm better you guys are again stuck with me hanging around.

the AOS is the minor league

of what ??

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (rpxSz)

209 Jeb! 2020.......

Please clap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM (Z+IKu)

210 Someone here yesterday said just for giggles, they subscribed to the Bulwark.

Immediately got tips on "how to raise a good son" tips from French.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM (ptqGC)

211 Scott Adams. Unwoke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BcIvKk9Wo

First 10 minutes are really worth while. Should be SFW except for swearing.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM (XzVUd)

212 Jeb! 2020.......

Please clap.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM (Z+IKu)

I just laughed out loud

Posted by: Ventura Highway at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM (M+Lyo)

213 Don't want to get my hopes up, but Senator John James would be YUGE.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM (U7qMl)

214 I'm taking this personally, this impeachment is an attack on me and my right to vote. These fascists can go fuck themselves in their attempts to render my voice null and void because I didn't vote "correctly."

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (+dsLj)

215 Jeb! 2020.......

Please clap.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2019 06:31 PM

Sounds like Cory Booker, just with less money. LOLGF

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (r7Fvf)

216 ( I suffer.you suffer)

Posted by: willow

I've broke bones, had stitches, toothaches, but I REALLY hate the flu. You have my sympathy.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (LOq4H)

217 167 Josh Gottheimer is my representative, and he is a loathsome cocksucker who will do and say anything. He has no principles, no honor, no love of country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Imagine having Barbara Lee as your representative. She's the only member of congress to have openly admitted to committing treason, and yet no punishment was ever meted out to her and she gets re-elected with 80% of the vote every time anyway.

Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (fK2gX)

218 Bullshit...Trump's number have never been belown50%...ever
Moar fakes news

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (qMnBn)

219 Dang. That last sentence was full of "tips."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (ptqGC)

220 But would he? How many R Senators also have exposure to the Ukraine corruption?

I axed this earlier today, but the thought of Mitch realizing that this is a big turning point in American politics, coming clean and blowing the lid off this whole corrupt circus has never occurred to him.

He could be a hero if he were to do that. He's probably get his face on a piece of currency. Hell, any Republican would.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (HaL55)

221 204 willow, do you have a humidifier? I swear by them in the winter time.

Not that I'm trying to get you better so you'll leave us, but I do want you to feel better.
Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:30 PM (/669Q)

Ditch the humidifier. I just put a large pot of water on the stove to boil. When it starts bubbling I turn it all the way down and the steam humidifies the apartment nicely. And no mold or other garbage forming from the humidifier that you have to constantly clean. Plus, it's free.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (zBaqJ)

222 Autophagy. An amusing spectator sport.

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (90T4r)

223 Matt Gaetz is a beast.

Posted by: jsg at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (G0in+)

224 Anyone know what time the Trump rally starts?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (U7qMl)

225 Bluebell yes..have one going right now.ty

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (0js53)

226 I'm taking this personally, this impeachment is an attack on me and my right to vote. These fascists can go fuck themselves in their attempts to render my voice null and void because I didn't vote "correctly."
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM

Same here. The articles they brought were essentially. We don't like doody head! This is shit that can start things, I'll leave it at that for now.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (r7Fvf)

227 217 167 Josh Gottheimer is my representative, and he is a loathsome cocksucker who will do and say anything. He has no principles, no honor, no love of country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Imagine having Barbara Lee as your representative. She's the only member of congress to have openly admitted to committing treason, and yet no punishment was ever meted out to her and she gets re-elected with 80% of the vote every time anyway.
Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (fK2gX)

Guess who my rep is?

Jerry the Walking Pastrami Nadless.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (zBaqJ)

228 willow, take two pats on the butt and call us in the morning.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (1CjJc)

229 JJ, that would work if your bedroom is near your kitchen, I guess. Mine is upstairs and the kitchen is on the main level.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (/669Q)

230 I think the GOP senators can cut a deal that lets
Trump defend himself while shielding their little peccadillos for the
moment. Trump was in the Ukraine investigating Crossfire Hurricaine,
not the Bidens. The Biden angle is only to have the Dems defending what
can't be defended rather than what is really going on.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (eoQWY)

GOP Senators cutting a deal with the media? On what planet? Wanna bet how fast 1,000 "investigative journalists" come out of hibernation to check the dealings of every GOP Senator's offspring? I know first-hand what they'll find.
I don't see any scenario where any Biden testifies.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (CQ3Qb)

231 These campy hijinks remind me of a live reenactment of the Rocky Horror Picture Show except the audiences participating in its replay are all anticipating surprise anal.

Posted by: Fritz at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (zD38/)

232 Hey I'm not a spammer!

Posted by: KWDreaming at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (7Co5R)

233 Matt Gaetz is a beast.

Posted by: jsg at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (G0in+)

I've never smoked in my life, but after his performance yesterday, I felt the need for a cocktail and a cigarette. He was hawt.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (ptqGC)

234 This is absolutely an impeachment of the American people. We didn't vote correctly. We let Our Betters down.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (U7qMl)

235 Good girl, willow. Now, how about chicken soup?

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (/669Q)

236 229 JJ, that would work if your bedroom is near your kitchen, I guess. Mine is upstairs and the kitchen is on the main level.
Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (/669Q)

Well, yeah, a house is bigger than an apartment. But still. Steam rises.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (zBaqJ)

237 Hi willow. Chicken soup. But abstain from the leeches.

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:35 PM (90T4r)

238 Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (fK2gX)

How did Lee commit treason?

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:35 PM (+mbOC)

239 234 This is absolutely an impeachment of the American people. We didn't vote correctly. We let Our Betters down.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (U7qMl)

Within 20 years or less, watch the movement start to abolish elections altogether.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:35 PM (zBaqJ)

240 Guess who my rep is?

Jerry the Walking Pastrami Nadless.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (zBaqJ)

Ugh. His stomach stapling seems to be failing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (ptqGC)

241 J.J. throw a few sprigs of rosemary in the water when it boils.

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (4pMBB)

242 I have a hard time believing that. We have a bad habit of re-electing Democrat Senators.
Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (+mbOC)

James took on Debbie Stabenow last time, who brings home the graft and has been in the Senate ( and previously in the Michigan legislature for years) and won the majority of counties in the state. He did not win Detroit, Oakland County or the Ann Arbor area.

Detroit you could write a book about. Oakland County, well, he's black. Ann Arbor- pot legalization was on the ballot and everyone under the age of 35 crawled out to the polls to make sure the Democrats swept the state offices so there would be zero interference in being able to stand in line for three hours to buy your weed.

So what is the first thing the Dem female governor wants to do is raise taxes on gas .45 cents a gallon for "roads" , making Michigan the state with the highest gasoline taxes in the nation, besting CA. Because we still have a Rep Legislature, that has been held in check.

Peter's is invisible, unlike Stabenow. You don't see him arm and arm with Schumer like you do Stabenow. I think James has a very good chance this time.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (I3OPu)

243 Willow, hot iron is best. For the bed. Warms the bed before you retire.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (1CjJc)

244 Actually, noodles cooked in chicken is great flu food.

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (90T4r)

245 Speaking of the Senate, John James has pulled ahead in polls in the
race between himself and Gary Peters for Peter"s Michigan US Senate seat
for the first time since he announced.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:25 PM (I3OPu)

I have a hard time believing that. We have a bad habit of re-electing Democrat Senators.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (+mbOC)

---
Peters has been invisible. He has less name ID than James, which doesn't bode well for an incumbent.

Consider that James ran into the mid-term headwind and was vastly outspent by a fixture in statewide politics for decades and actually got more votes than any other Republican in a statewide race and this becomes very credible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (cfSRQ)

246 We have an April Aire whole house humidifier. goes into the plenum on the furnace. Change the pad once a month and pull it completely in the spring. It makes a HUGE difference.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (r7Fvf)

247 I'm taking this personally, this impeachment is an attack on me and my right to vote. These fascists can go fuck themselves in their attempts to render my voice null and void because I didn't vote "correctly."
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM

Same here. The articles they brought were essentially. We don't like doody head! This is shit that can start things, I'll leave it at that for now.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (r7Fvf)

EVERY attack on Trump is an attack on us. Not just impeachment.

If they can somehow get Trump, they'll then turn to us. Or wait Trump out, then turn on us.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (WQQWs)

248 Trump rally starts in 25 minutes.

So he'll probably hit the stage about 8 eastern.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (U7qMl)

249 proclamation by adoration.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (fcf/y)

250 Ever wonder how Elon Musk has been allowed to commit securities fraud with impunity while banking millions in taxpayer subsidies? Any idea who Tesla Motors manager of business operations is? One of Mitch McConnel's daughters. And she married to an investment banker with ties to the former soviet bloc.
That's just one of probably 300 examples.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (CQ3Qb)

251 Imagine having Barbara Lee as your representative.

Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (fK2gX)

I lived in that district.

Ron Dellums?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2019 06:38 PM (wYseH)

252 I'm glad I got my flu shot a few weeks ago. The weather here has been cold one day, warm the next.

It was 70 yesterday and 80 today, with a rainy cold front coming through tonight.

I had a luncheon to attend today, and the restaurant's outside seating was full.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:38 PM (ptqGC)

253
49 Wehn these idiots bring up government Transparency during these Press Conferences, why hasn't a single reporter asked about the Congressional Slush Fund for Sexual Miconduct Cases?

Feed them some fucking Crow.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2019 06:06 PM (+jFQz)

----

They're not reporters. They're 'reporters.'

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 10, 2019 06:38 PM (dZDT/)

254 I should look into that, Minnfidel. Probably would be better for our wood floors too.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:38 PM (/669Q)

255 211. I'm actually listening to Scott now. I caught the first 15 minutes live, but office got too busy. Why didn't you do it sooner

Posted by: GeneTheHappy at December 10, 2019 06:38 PM (sYV5O)

256 We have an April Aire whole house humidifier. goes
into the plenum on the furnace. Change the pad once a month and pull it
completely in the spring. It makes a HUGE difference.

Posted by: Minnfidel

Isn't the whole country south of the Mason-Dixon a humidifier?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:39 PM (LOq4H)

257 I like how pelosi can just bliethely say things are bipartisan when there's zero GOP votes.

I still like the idea of the senate trial for:

1. keep Sen. Booker/Warren/Sanders off campaign trail just because fuck them.

2. put Schiff on the stand.

However, I don't trust the senate GOP to do anything remotely useful and will prob shit bed WRT 1 and 2.

so, fuck you ... censor Trump. However, Trump needs to do an executive branch rebuttal. and arrest schiff for perjury and violating Whistleblower laws. along with firing every swamp democrat witness in DOJ and State department

Posted by: mushroom maniac at December 10, 2019 06:39 PM (FEQY4)

258 Eer..i need chicken soup. How could I forget that?!

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (0js53)

259 My rep has been doing OK so far. This district got enough scandal with Barton.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (fcf/y)

260 That's just one of probably 300 examples.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (CQ3Qb)

Do you have a link for that McConnell Tesla story?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (1CjJc)

261 My congresscritter (MO-03) is an old farmer who hates everything & everybody pretty much-- just like I do. Wish we could clone him.

Posted by: mnw at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (Cssks)

262 Mister, we could use a judge like Pigmeat Markham again...

Posted by: klaftern at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (RuIsu)

263 Ever wonder how Elon Musk has been allowed to commit securities fraud with impunity while banking millions in taxpayer subsidies? Any idea who Tesla Motors manager of business operations is? One of Mitch McConnel's daughters. And she married to an investment banker with ties to the former soviet bloc.
That's just one of probably 300 examples.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (CQ3Qb)

Wow....did not know that. Elon is a bigger parasite than I thought.

He is a two legged tick.

Thanks Brian!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (Z+IKu)

264 So, why do all the "journalists" got their panties in a twist over the Clint Eastwood movie "Richard Jewell?

Posted by: KWDreaming at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (7Co5R)

265 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2019 06:33 PM (zBaqJ)

Is your reps name pronounced with a long or short 'a'? The Sirius XM guy in the morning uses the long a and it drives me nuts.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (+mbOC)

266 259 My rep has been doing OK so far. This district got enough scandal with Barton.

I don't have any representative... I live in NorCal

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (6XlcD)

267 238 Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:32 PM (fK2gX)

How did Lee commit treason?
Posted by: clutch

Back in '83, she was an aide to Ron Dellums, the socialist congressmen from what would later become Lee's district. he was on the House Intelligence Committee, and so was privy to all of America's top secret military intelligence operations. In his role there, he was kept apprised of the Grenada invasion plans, in minute-by-minute detail. Someone, just prior to the invasion, critical military plans passed from Dellums to Barbara Lee -- whether she snuck them out, or he just handed them to her is unclear. And what did she do with them? SHE CALLED UP HER COMMUNIST BUDDIES IN GRENADA and revealed EXACTLY where and when the US was going to invade.

If she had been a Soviet spy, she couldn't have done any worse. She intentionally put US troops in harm's way and tried to thwart national policy.

Barbara Lee has bragged about this for years, as least to her constituents and in interviews with sufficiently leftist media. And yet despite her bragging and admissions, Congress never censured her or even brought the subject up.

Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (fK2gX)

268 GOP Senators cutting a deal with the media? On what
planet? Wanna bet how fast 1,000 "investigative journalists" come out of
hibernation to check the dealings of every GOP Senator's offspring? I
know first-hand what they'll find.
I don't see any scenario where any Biden testifies.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (CQ3Qb)

---
People are overthinking this.

The Senate wants it all to go away.

None of them want to touch it.

Someone upthread pointed out that the Dems *will* lose winnable senate seats because of this.

Speaking of Gary Peters, he's one of them. If he votes for impeachment, he can pretty much start packing his bags.

If he votes to acquit, same deal.

You know what he wants? The whole thing to go away.

I'm sure there is plenty of arm-twisting to keep this bottled up in the House.

And for those who point out that 51 votes are needed to approve a witness, how will it look if Trump says "I call this witness in my defense" and the Senate refuses to allow it?

Does anyone think that makes it look like less of a show trial?

There are no good outcomes for the Dems here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 10, 2019 06:42 PM (cfSRQ)

269 Someone = Somehow

Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:42 PM (fK2gX)

270
Agree or Disagree?

People with detached earlobes are inferior to those with no earlobes.

I toyed with the idea of surgically attaching my earlobes.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 06:43 PM (57dQ0)

271 >>Speaking of Gary Peters

Harry Peters > Gary peters

Posted by: Don Lemon at December 10, 2019 06:43 PM (+jFQz)

272 "This is shit that can start things"

You know, if nothing else it should illustrate dramatically to even the most disinterested political types what vile and utter fucking cunts these congress critters and bureacrats et al. are. BECAUSE, what they are doing is playing with fire. And they know this. They don't care. They have their orders, from their donors - their real constituents.

Except, it won't be THEIR ass on the line, or their children, or family or friends. YOU, however, are expendable. YOUR death, before their dishonor. The "American People" are (obviously) absolutely NOTHING to them.

We've witnessed a complete inversion in our lifetimes - the government can do whatever the fuck it wants, and the people are powerless.

They outlawed fucking lightbulbs at one point. At least their perfidy is on display 24/7 at this point.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 10, 2019 06:43 PM (D2xaQ)

273 LOL get fucked

Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:43 PM (NWiLs)

274 Jane the flu shot seems to work this year. Husband hasn't become I'll with me choking and coughing all over him

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:43 PM (0js53)

275 255
211. I'm actually listening to Scott now. I caught the first 15
minutes live, but office got too busy. Why didn't you do it sooner

Can't watch youtube on this laptop ... it's too old but has all my email on it so until I sort that out, my youtube watching is a bit out-of-sync.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 10, 2019 06:43 PM (XzVUd)

276 Eer..i need chicken soup. How could I forget that?!
Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (0js53)
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willow! I'm not even Jewish, and you are! What the heck!

I have 6 quarts of delicious turkey stock in my freezer. I wish I lived close to you so I could bring it there. I hope someone can get some for you.

And Vicks VaporRub.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (/669Q)

277 Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:36 PM (I3OPu)

I hope you're right, he is the only politician I have ever given money to. However, he refuses to answer whether he will appear on stage with PDT, so no cash until he answers.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (+mbOC)

278 Glad to hear James I's running again. I'm gonna throw some cash his way.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (WQQWs)

279 My Rep is Joe Neguse (D-CO-2nd)

Wake me up if he ever does anything useful.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (U7qMl)

280 I should look into that, Minnfidel. Probably would be better for our wood floors too.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:38 PM

It helps a ton! I was skeptical but it's so much more comfy in the house. You can adjust it so it doesn't need, nor would you want it to be a rain forest but they are nice. skin doesn't get so dry etc. We have a fireplace so that dries it out as well so it's nice. 5 below tonight! Man, winter came early.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (r7Fvf)

281 we don't even have a rep in the Berkshires

no one gives a rat ass about us

Posted by: REDACTED at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (rpxSz)

282 "250 Ever wonder how Elon Musk has been allowed to commit securities fraud with impunity while banking millions in taxpayer subsidies? Any idea who Tesla Motors manager of business operations is? One of Mitch McConnel's daughters. And she married to an investment banker with ties to the former soviet bloc.
That's just one of probably 300 examples."

The Senate is a piñata of corruption. It's why the parties have a modus vivendi about attack ads concerning graft and foreign influence. They'll bash each other all day long about who is taking what from Big Pharma but blatant graft from China or military contractors is off limits. Even when Antifa and its media arm were coming after Chao and McConnell over Kavanaugh, the well-documented China graft went unmentioned. It's not a government let alone party worthy of support but you fight with the tools you have available.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (iw59Q)

283 Repost for later folks.

Librem5 - the linux phone that places your privacy first.

Some of you have asked for an update, since I said I pre-ordered, and planned shipment was announced to begin in Q3 2019. Shipment began in three tranches, and I deliberately chose tranche three, in the hope that more software bugs were worked out and more apps became available.

Short answer: Purism bungled the release. The first tranche largely went to company insiders, in an effort I can only assume is to work out bugs.

Purism is taking it in the shorts for biting off too much (hardware and software design), and rightfully, for letting a phone out into the wild that can't even phone.

Cons:

- a phone that can't phone, yet.
- few apps
- not bleeding edge hardware
- girthy

Pros:

- User replaceable battery
- Hardware switches for comms, mic, and cams
- SD storage

Youtuber HackersGame has about the best updates and demos on the platform, both dev kit and it appears, a released device.

https://youtu.be/Mqmz0cJkYRQ

His estimate, IIRC, is that tranche three, Evergreen, is ETA Q1/Q2 2020. This is fine by me. I am still optimistic on the platform, as are others, and I am willing to give them time to work out the bugs . . . so far.

Stay away, for now.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (1CjJc)

284 276

And Vicks VaporRub.
Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (/669Q)

Vicks is a wonder drug. Rub it under your nose, and breathe again.

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (90T4r)

285 it's me donna, I feel for you. I worked for 5 years to get Barton voted out. I thank him for self destructing.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (fcf/y)

286 Raise your hand, raise your hand to censure

Posted by: goodluckduck at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (rwaEp)

287 Do you have a link for that McConnell Tesla story?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (1CjJc)

What, that his daughter is business ops manager for Tesla?
Here's her wedding announcement: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/ fashion/weddings/claire-mcconnell-stephen-wolfe.html

I'm not saying there's a quid pro quo but we both know what it could be made to look like. Many of them know there's fire under that smoke.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (CQ3Qb)

288 So, why do all the "journalists" got their panties in a twist over the Clint Eastwood movie "Richard Jewell?

Posted by: KWDreaming at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (7Co5R)

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It shows them as they really are, up to an including trading sex for stories.

A bunch are all worked up about it, but apparently they forgot about the one who slept with his source on the Senate Intel committee. Watkins, that's the one. She was so disgraced by this that the New York Times hired her.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (cfSRQ)

289 Mumbles .i have Vicks and mucinex. And zicam. Yeah I think I'll ask one of the kids to pick up a chicken and drop it by house. Durrr

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (0js53)

290 Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (0js53)
*******
I had it & it kicked my ass for 5 days & now I have that nagging dry cough. You have my sympathies

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (vh9cH)

291 There is actually, IMO, no reason to have Biden testify.
Trump is being brought up on charges he endangered the USA and that he abused his power by attempting to solicit a personal enrichment favor thingy by asking for Biden to be investigated.

Both made up charges are not only easily defended against, but would be a good lesson to explain to the American public that we have a constitution that grants power to conduct foreign policy to the President.

That Trump was fulfilling his duty as President to honor a treaty we have with Ukraine in which corruption in either country will be investigated by both with cooperation.

I want the Dem's to explain to the public and to the Senate just how Trump endangered the USA by calling and congratulation the newly elected Ukrainian president and discussing fulfilling treaty obligations.

How Trump abused his power by withholding military aid to Ukraine for two weeks while it's new government was vetted due to it's old government being ripe with corruption.

All this other clown show testimony people want is counterproductive AND could be a problem for Barr's investigation and possible indictments.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (I3OPu)

292 Neguse is a "son of immigrants" and is all-in on impeachment.

The Californication continues unabated.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (U7qMl)

293 So, why do all the "journalists" got their panties in a twist over the Clint Eastwood movie "Richard Jewell?

Posted by: KWDreaming at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (7Co5R)

Apparently the coven on The View are furious that Eastwood portrayed the slutty, lying female AJC reporter as a slutty, lying female who ruined an innocent man's life, because "she's not around to defend herself!"

But everyone HAD to believe Blasey-Ford over Kavanaugh because female.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (ptqGC)

294 Vicks is a wonder drug. Rub it under your nose, and breathe again.
Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (90T4r)
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And on your chest. And, some people swear by putting it on their feet. I don't understand that, but it works for some people.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (/669Q)

295 GOP Senators cutting a deal with the media? On what planet? Wanna bet how fast 1,000 "investigative journalists" come out of hibernation to check the dealings of every GOP Senator's offspring? I know first-hand what they'll find.
I don't see any scenario where any Biden testifies.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:34 PM (CQ3Qb)

Where the fuck did I mention the media?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (eoQWY)

296 Total OT: for you writer types, what would you pay for a good proofreader?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (NWiLs)

297 289 Mumbles .i have Vicks and mucinex. And zicam. Yeah I think I'll ask one of the kids to pick up a chicken and drop it by house. Durrr
Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (0js53)

Honest, the good canned stuff will do in a pinch. Not thinking of cooking, with the flu, are you?

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (90T4r)

298 Homey da comey is not in the can.
wah...

Posted by: My hair is on fire.... at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (vqIkG)

299 Schiff has already said that if Trump wins in 2020 it is illegitimate.

So there ya go.

OTOH, I will revel in the new youtube montage crying of the television mouthpieces.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (r+sAi)

300 Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (fK2gX)

Wow, never knew that. Turrible as Sir Charles would,say.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (+mbOC)

301 Whoops, wrong claire mcconnell, looking for the right link

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (CQ3Qb)

302 Isn't the whole country south of the Mason-Dixon a humidifier?
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:39 PM

Pretty much but I am about a 3 hour drive to Canada. So not here. They are a yuge help. Stephen Wright once said, I put a humidifier and a de-humidifier in my basement and let them fight it out!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (r7Fvf)

303 Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:45 PM (90T4r)
*******
Peppermint Oil works even better, just be careful not to rub your eyes for a while. ask me how I know

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (vh9cH)

304 268 AHL

Agreed. The Senate wants to vote "NO" at the earliest opportunity, & it will do so, too.

Lindsey said, "We'll vote as soon as we get 51 Senators to say, 'We've heard enough.'"

Posted by: mnw at December 10, 2019 06:48 PM (Cssks)

305 the slutty, lying female AJC reporter as a slutty, lying female who ruined an innocent man's life,

And a druggie who died of an OD. Something the media has done its best to squelch.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:48 PM (U7qMl)

306 263 Ever wonder how Elon Musk has been allowed to commit securities fraud with impunity while banking millions in taxpayer subsidies? Any idea who Tesla Motors manager of business operations is? One of Mitch McConnel's daughters. And she married to an investment banker with ties to the former soviet bloc.
That's just one of probably 300 examples.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:37 PM (CQ3Qb)

Wow....did not know that. Elon is a bigger parasite than I thought.

He is a two legged tick.

Thanks Brian!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM (Z+IKu)

Everybody above a certain level is incidentally connected(at lower levels like myself, you have a within 3 people connection to lots of notables, Merkel, Biden & Kerry family private equity fund and their shenanigans, Roy Moore, some people make their fortunes by leveraging these connections) . Sometimes there's an actual relationship, sometimes not.

As far as securities fraud goes, Musk was being stupid, not criminal or profiteering off it.

Posted by: Someguy at December 10, 2019 06:48 PM (Zm+LZ)

307 290 Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:24 PM (0js53)
*******
I had it & it kicked my ass for 5 days & now I have that nagging dry cough. You have my sympathies
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (vh9cH)

Had it so bad one year, I coughed so hard and long I thought my ribs were gonna break.

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (90T4r)

308 MUMR sighting!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (U7qMl)

309 So let me get this straight - the MSM has been running Orange Man Bad at about 98% of their coverage and have been the biggest cheerleaders for impeachment. And yet the support for impeachment is cratering and support for Trump is rising.

Which means to me that the dreaded LIVs aren't buying this and are calling BS despite being low-information and being fed a steady diet of OMB. It seems media and advertising has its limits.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (ocutB)

310 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 10, 2019 06:42 PM (cfSRQ)

Yeah, Greasy Gary would be put on the spot if PDT is impeached. I am just shell shocked how Dummy keeps getting re-elected.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (+mbOC)

311 Brett set up the panel so that he's got a lefty and
Mollie on, and his butt buddy Steven Hayes can pose as the "reasonable
centrist in the middle."

Oh boy, she just said "NeverTrump media" (Steve Hayes!) was "utterly humiliated" by the IG Report.

La Senorita Steve, ella es morta! Es morta!

Posted by: ace at December 10, 2019 06:27 PM (PbpT7)

It was hilarious when Mollie went off on the NeverTrump media, with Steve sitting there, not knowing where to look. Except at his buddy, Bret, I guess.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:29 PM (ptqGC
****************
Earlier today, Sean Davis called out the NeverTrumpers on Twitter and it was awesome. He went after Kristol, French, Matt Lewis, Sykes and Goldberg.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (wiXsO)

312 Geez. I need connections.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (NWiLs)

313 What, that his daughter is business ops manager for Tesla?

Here's her wedding announcement: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/ fashion/weddings/claire-mcconnell-stephen-wolfe.html

I'm not saying there's a quid pro quo but we both know what it could
be made to look like. Many of them know there's fire under that smoke.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (CQ3Qb)

All of it, really. Her name is enough to get started, though, thanks. Yeah, pretty much any place the U.S. is dumping a bunch of money is a significant opportunity for graft, be it by spouse, spawn, consulting gig, book deals, lobbying, revolving government door, finance company, hedge fund, dems' favorite community organizer org, etc.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (1CjJc)

314 So, why do all the "journalists" got their panties in a twist over the Clint Eastwood movie "Richard Jewell?

Posted by: KWDreaming at December 10, 2019 06:41 PM

I'll take, What is, because it's another example of what lying partisan fucks they are? for 400 Alex

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (r7Fvf)

315 MUMR sighting!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (U7qMl)

Wow, that comment didn't last long.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 10, 2019 06:50 PM (aS1PU)

316
Wow, that comment didn't last long.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 10, 2019 06:50 PM (aS1PU)

I can't believe I caught it - it was like one of those flashing GIFs that gives Kurt Tentacleporn the fits.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:50 PM (U7qMl)

317 So let me get this straight - the MSM has been running Orange Man Bad at about 98% of their coverage and have been the biggest cheerleaders for impeachment. And yet the support for impeachment is cratering and support for Trump is rising.

Which means to me that the dreaded LIVs aren't buying this and are calling BS despite being low-information and being fed a steady diet of OMB. It seems media and advertising has its limits.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (ocutB)

Yeah, seems like some on here have more confidence in the media's power than the media itself does.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (eoQWY)

318 Total OT: for you writer types, what would you pay for a good proofreader?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (NWiLs)
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Insomniac, I think we have some Hordelings that do/have done proofreading for a living. Some of them helped with TDG. Try asking on the ONT - I think westminsterdogshow may be one but I honestly can't remember.

Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (/669Q)

319 Schiff has already said that if Trump wins in 2020 it is illegitimate

And therefore anyone who supports him is illegitimate.

And therefore anyone who is illegitimate is fair game.

It's coming.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (WQQWs)

320 They're getting nuked as fast as they appear.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

321 Where the fuck did I mention the media?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (eoQWY)

Any deal that would keep the Senators safe from retribution would require the media going along with it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (CQ3Qb)

322 bluebell, the Vick's on the soles of your feet and socks on will definitely reduce coughing, or it did in my case.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (fcf/y)

323 Jen, Rand Paul had a good interview today and said the law actually states that we can't give Ukraine foreign aid unless they are making progress towards reducing corruption. So Trump had every right to ask and every obligation to do so.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (r+sAi)

324 Once you get the flu, I believe if you get to your doctor right away, there's something they can prescribe that shortens the duration and lessens the severity.

But you have to do it as soon as you realize you've got it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (ptqGC)

325 Insomniac, I think we have some Hordelings that do/have done proofreading for a living. Some of them helped with TDG. Try asking on the ONT - I think westminsterdogshow may be one but I honestly can't remember.
Posted by: bluebell at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (/669Q)

Gotcha. Thanks.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

326 His hash is, phonetically, " pisspurr", which is rather ironic.

Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2019 06:52 PM (90T4r)

327

nooodo

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 10, 2019 06:52 PM (57dQ0)

328 What is MUMR ?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 10, 2019 06:53 PM (XzVUd)

329 My buddy, who I call The Last Conservative in Philadelphia, just texted that he's at the rally.

I know he has family in Hershey, should have figured he'd be there. Wish I was there!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 10, 2019 06:53 PM (U7qMl)

330 All of it, really. Her name is enough to get started, though, thanks. Yeah, pretty much any place the U.S. is dumping a bunch of money is a significant opportunity for graft, be it by spouse, spawn, consulting gig, book deals, lobbying, revolving government door, finance company, hedge fund, dems' favorite community organizer org, etc.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (1CjJc)

The Claire McConnel with Tesla isn't Mitch's kin. I kinda blew that one.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:53 PM (CQ3Qb)

331 Total OT: for you writer types, what would you pay for a good proofreader?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 10, 2019 06:47 PM (NWiLs)

I actually happen to be a very good speller and well versed in grammar and sentence construction, so I have always done my own. Do you need something done? I'll do it for you. I could use the distraction to silence this damned broody voice in my head.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 10, 2019 06:53 PM (Ki5SV)

332 the slutty, lying female AJC reporter as a slutty, lying female who ruined an innocent man's life,

And a druggie who died of an OD. Something the media has done its best to squelch.

Posted by: Guy Smiley

People! I'm seeing an after school special here!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 10, 2019 06:53 PM (LOq4H)

333 Thanks for ideas and sympathy. I'll just shush now and read instead of chat

Posted by: willow at December 10, 2019 06:54 PM (0js53)

334 What's the deal with Nazi's nose? Is it rotting off?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 10, 2019 06:54 PM (sWM8x)

335 Earlier today, Sean Davis called out the NeverTrumpers on Twitter and it was awesome. He went after Kristol, French, Matt Lewis, Sykes and Goldberg.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM

Almost makes me wish I was on Twitter, almost. I will literally, never read, click etc. ANYTHING team nevertrump posts, writes etc. These idiots think people like me are coming back? Here's my analogy. I got take out one time from a Chinese place. I got violently ill, legit food poisoning. No matter what they would have said and or done was there any chance I was going back? No. LOLGF. They all make me sick and can all learn to code.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 10, 2019 06:56 PM (r7Fvf)

336 What the fuck do I know. From an old guy who nobody cares unless we don't pay taxes. Leave my IPA alone. Late to the party is my MOS

Posted by: noseitall at December 10, 2019 06:56 PM (lMsxO)

337 I hope you're right, he is the only politician I have ever given money to. However, he refuses to answer whether he will appear on stage with PDT, so no cash until he answers.
Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2019 06:44 PM (+mbOC)

Umm, Trump endorsed him last time, Don Jr. appeared at several of his rallies, as did Laura Trump. He met with Trump at the WH this past May over discussion of him being appt a UN Ambassador, and also encouraging him to run again in Michigan for either the Senate against Peters or for a House district. With the courts tossing out the current district maps in favor of gerrymandering for the Democrats, a Senate run made more sense.

Stop reading the Metro Times.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 10, 2019 06:57 PM (I3OPu)

338 313 What, that his daughter is business ops manager for Tesla?

Here's her wedding announcement: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/ fashion/weddings/claire-mcconnell-stephen-wolfe.html

I'm not saying there's a quid pro quo but we both know what it could
be made to look like. Many of them know there's fire under that smoke.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2019 06:46 PM (CQ3Qb)

All of it, really. Her name is enough to get started, though, thanks. Yeah, pretty much any place the U.S. is dumping a bunch of money is a significant opportunity for graft, be it by spouse, spawn, consulting gig, book deals, lobbying, revolving government door, finance company, hedge fund, dems' favorite community organizer org, etc.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 10, 2019 06:49 PM (1CjJc)

Per her linkedin profile she stopped worked at Tesla in 2015, her career looks for the most part pretty mundane. Her role at Tesla looks fairly low level, Analyst -> Business Operations Manager -> Business Development and Sales Operations Manager.

I think if there were a there, there, McConnell would be on board with renewing the EV tax credits.

Posted by: Someguy at December 10, 2019 07:00 PM (Zm+LZ)

339 VP Pence is up

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2019 07:10 PM (ZCEU2)

340 334
What's the deal with Nazi's nose? Is it rotting off?

reminds me of a commercial i frequently see for a hair restoration product. guy is going on and on about how wonderful the stuff is for his hair, and all i can think is "forget the hair; what about your nose?", because it looks like a plastic surgery disaster.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 10, 2019 07:16 PM (sGtp+)

341 nancy pelosis "crash test dummies ll: the wokening"

Posted by: sound awake at December 10, 2019 07:28 PM (0OxUd)

342 also the biden people hate the bernie people and the bernie people hate the warren people and the warren people hate the buttigeig people...no matter who gets the nomination 20 percent dont vote in november and trump may get almost half the hispanic and 20 percent of the black voters...

Posted by: sound awake at December 10, 2019 07:33 PM (0OxUd)

343 6 Sorry people, the impeachment train has left the station and you are all onboard no matter what you wanted.

You do have one option though, you can vote no.
-----
That would mean doing the right thing. Though I can't imagine going along with the trainwreck and possibly losing your gig is a better alternative then being on the "No" shit list of those who voted for it.

If you lose, they'll forget about you anyways, and you'll be out of the sweet job you have. Not everyone has a rabbi back in the district who'll find you a place if lose your seat.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 10, 2019 07:45 PM (VYwSh)

344 tis the season... for Vicks, Mucinex, Peppermint Oil ... good old Mentholatum is still sold, but bought out by some Japanese company I think. They came along before the Vicks version.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 10, 2019 07:50 PM (Cus5s)

345 Suggested Trump text:

"Dear Democrat, it doesn't matter whether you impeach me or censure me, one way or the other after the election, I am going to come over there to your offices and personally throw your shit out into the street!

And I am going to have your puny arrows still sticking out of my chest, and I will yell for all of you to hear, "This is AMERICA!"

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 10, 2019 08:26 PM (pilVY)

346 So, I Wiki National Review. Waaay back in the day I used to read it. Wiki says 90K subscribers in 2017.

The only reason you would buy would be if you didn't have the internet and you were single sourcing your opinion information. No one does that nowadays. Their magazine isn't a buff book like Car + Driver or Road + Track (same owner for both) that basically gives them away for the advertising to be seen. Sure, the web site, why not? But the pulp version?

By the time you get the latest issue, their hot take is a stale. Who are these 90K?

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