Fusion Co-Founders Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer Refused to Talk to IG;<br> James Comey and Former FBI Attorney James Baker Also Avoided Fully Testifying

Fusion Co-Founders Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer Refused to Talk to IG;
James Comey and Former FBI Attorney James Baker Also Avoided Fully Testifying

Specifically, Comey and Baker refused to get recertified for a classification clearance, thus blocking the IG's efforts to "refresh their recollection" with classified documents.

"Refreshing a witness' recollection" by showing him documents is a common thing at trials and in investigations.

But sometimes witnesses lie about events, and sometimes lie about having no recollection of certain critical details. James Comey, for example, has a steel-trap recall as to things he wants to claim to his media and government coconspirators, but has all sorts of convenient memory lapses about stuff that could get him into legal trouble.

So the IG wanted to "refresh his recollection" about this convenient periods of Lost Time by showing him classified documents and notes that would explain exactly who he talked to and when he talked to them and what he said to them.

Rather than agreeing to do this, Comey said, "Nah, I decline to get new clearance to see classified material," thus preventing the IG from "refreshing his recollection."

Had he been confronted with a lie about a convenient lack of memory with a document that explained exactly what happened, he would have had to make a choice between telling the truth, or doubling down on his lie even in the face of a documentary record "reminding" him of the truth.

Now, one can get out of a lot of perjury charges by claiming one just didn't remember right, but if someone shows you documentary evidence about what the facts are and you still claim you don't remember, or you remember a version of the story at variance with the written contemporaneous record...?

Well, that makes it much harder to plead "no intent" to a perjury charge.

And so Comey -- the Straight Arrow Truth Teller -- choose to avoid such efforts to get at the truth and keep himself without a security clearance.

For whatever reason, he did not want his recollections to be refreshed.

What is that the Democrats (by which I mean "the media") say whenever a Trump associate declines to testify...?

"The only reason to not testify is because you're guilty."

Hm, why does that rule never seem to apply to Glenn Simpson, James Comey, and the rest of the Straight Shooters Gang?

Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer declined OIG's request for interviews. Wonder why pic.twitter.com/gKOyXWQb06
— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) December 9, 2019

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:55 PM

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Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 09, 2019 05:57 PM (G546f)

2 So this is good news, right?

Posted by: Iris at December 09, 2019 05:58 PM (lSFe/)

3 I just gotta a feeling this is not going to end well.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2019 05:58 PM (axyOa)

4 'Tis the season to get Ace some manscaping and a new set of shelves.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 09, 2019 05:58 PM (1CjJc)

5 Nothing like a built in dodge to avoid answering uncomfortable questions.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (qC1Sy)

6 Staying in my happy place, hoping that Barr will actually prosecute. 3AM roundup optional.

Posted by: Iris at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (lSFe/)

7 Well, maybe Brennan and Clapper can be called in and have their memories "refreshed."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (qC1Sy)

8 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (90T4r)

9 I'm becoming a big fan and supporter of rendition. I think it would be good for their souls.

Where does a future criminal go to get these kinds of special protections -- I mean outside of the feral government?

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:00 PM (+jo58)

10 I hear there are lists. Check them twice.

Posted by: nip at December 09, 2019 06:00 PM (Izot6)

11 So the IG report is incomplete because they can only interview people who are employees, those who are already gone (the major players in the Russian Collusion) can decline it.

Not surprising the conclusions they had were what they were.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (0QYMt)

12 Did Anyone expect anything differently? Anyone? This is government. Investigating government.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (90T4r)

13 Fusion Co-Founders Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer Refused to Talk to IG;
James Comey and Former FBI Attorney James Baker Also Avoided Fully Testifying

Then AG Barr, it's up to you.

Bwahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (fXB+v)

14 Couldn't the President have declassified the docs the IG wanted to use?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (dmYb7)

15 I'd refuse, too. I don't hold this against them.

Why they haven't been subpoenaed to testify, though, is beyond me. Except for corruption, I guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (I2dne)

16 Great Americans....right there.

Posted by: BignJames at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (X/Pw5)

17 What vmom said.

Types

Deletes

Trump is me asking nicely.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (VcFUs)

18 Durham will not just accept a declination.

Comey and the rest of the Coup Cabal better lawyer up.

They are just biding their time and hoping the Impeachment process distracts from their criminal enterprise.

Posted by: Czech Chick at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (J9wxX)

19 My eyes are glassy. Drool is dangling from the corner of my mouth.

The Deep State has achieved victory through sheer tedium.

Posted by: zombie at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (fK2gX)

20 Why, these shocking revelations could lead one to believe that this is just a game, and that the rules of the game benefit the unscrupulous at the expense of justice.

Hmmm.

I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding on my part.

I'm equally sure that these people aren't in the reach of the little people. Too bad, that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (z79tQ)

21 If Trump disbanded every federal law enforcement agency we'd actually wind up safer as a result.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (+dsLj)

22 Going out on a limb: Nobody Cares. Nothing will be done. Nobody will even be slightly inconvenienced much less actually prosecuted for anything whatsoever. The entire U.S. "justice system" is a complete farce.

Posted by: I Have Questions at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (BvNzB)

23 So? No harm no foul

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (ZCEU2)

24 11 So the IG report is incomplete because they can only interview people who are employees, those who are already gone (the major players in the Russian Collusion) can decline it.

Not surprising the conclusions they had were what they were.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (0QYMt)

So you read Hemingways piece from this morning. It helped me get perspective.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (90T4r)

25 This won't end well for The Republic.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:03 PM (CjeDS)

26 Only a fuckin idiot or leftist does not fully understand bias and hatred of the right and PDT was and still is behind ALL of this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:03 PM (85Gof)

27 So, don't take #15 the wrong way. That we me pretending there are rules.

This is America in Current Year, though, and rules no longer exist.

They refused to testify because they're guilty. Haul them in front of congress and make them prove their innocence.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:03 PM (I2dne)

28 No one actually -needs- Comey's fresh testimony. What he's said in the past is good enough to put him away, without having to extend it to his past criminal actions. He wanted to be the new J. Edgar, and President Trump has the power to correct him.

Posted by: trev006 at December 09, 2019 06:03 PM (6OzV/)

29 Trump Camps should've been built and filled to occupancy by May 2017.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 09, 2019 06:03 PM (2Qk5a)

30 OUT: Pleading the 5th

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (CjeDS)

31 8
How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (90T4r)

I'm fine, but I'm usually pretty even-keeled. Some of our more emotional members were wound up a tad.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (0QYMt)

32 Steiner, or Durham, whoever, will come.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (90T4r)

33 If there is one thing the FBI knows, it's not to talk to the FBI.

Posted by: nip at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (Izot6)

34 Truth? I don't need no stinkin' truth! The Bible tells me so.

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (EgshT)

35 If Trump disbanded every federal law enforcement agency we'd actually wind up safer as a result.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (+dsLj)
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Probably. Start with the FBI - there's no question on that one. Shutter the damn thing. And the parent organization. And the CIA. And the NSA. Maybe everything except the DIA - and only if it gets purged.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (I2dne)

36 They can't refuse to testify before a Grand Jury, can they? Don't Huber and Barr have the ability to compel? I though that was the difference, that Horowitz could only question current FBI employees.Also, I really liked the Ghostbusters video, especially when they broke out the car. I remember taking my kids to Disney during that era and taking their photos with the car. Think they were 7 and 9. Now in their 30's and married. Sigh....

Posted by: sharon at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (QzF6i)

37 Remember when Mueller didn't know what a fusion GPS was?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (ht3TX)

38 12
Did Anyone expect anything differently? Anyone? This is government. Investigating government.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (90T4r)

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All those who have served and sacrificed for their country and that government can dream, can't they?

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (+jo58)

39 Matt Eaton: Ghostbusters 3 looks a lot like The Force Awakens

Maybe, but only in that Abrams borrowed heavily from previously used themes in the same way (young people ignorant of the past get an artifact from a heroic predecessor and use it to protect their people from the same old threat).

But as he implies, don't get too jazzed about a slickly produced trailer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (KZzsI)

40 Trying to look at this objectively, my sense is the rules to open investigations are too fucking lax, so the IG can't say it was broken when the feds have so much leeway to investigate anything any fucking way they please.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (+dsLj)

41 If there is one thing the FBI knows, it's not to talk to the FBI.

Posted by: nip at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (Izot6)
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Expand that out to all lawmen.

The only thing you should ever say to a cop is, "I am exercising my right to remain silent and it will stay that way until I get a lawyer."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (I2dne)

42 The best weapon against cockroaches is a flashlight.

Trump is a magnesium flare.

Posted by: zombie at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (fK2gX)

43 >>They can't refuse to testify before a Grand Jury, can they? Don't Huber and Barr have the ability to compel?

No. They can't.

IGs are basically Federal Hall Monitors.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (CjeDS)

44 The fierce anger of the Lord shall not return, until he hath done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it.

Posted by: Lord Comey at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (zD38/)

45 33 If there is one thing the FBI knows, it's not to talk to the FBI.

Posted by: nip at December 09, 2019 06:04 PM (Izot6)

Things they teach at Quantico.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (90T4r)

46 14
Couldn't the President have declassified the docs the IG wanted to use?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (dmYb7)

Obstruction of an investigation!!!!! Criminal behavior!!!!! Interference - Trump is railroading these men!!!! Impeach, ImPeach, IMPEACH!!!!

That is what you wanted to have happen, right?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (0QYMt)

47 I still say Durham will be called on to recuse himself for making a statement about the IG report.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (ht3TX)

48 Levin comes on soon.

...let him handle the anger portion of this.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (CjeDS)

49 No worse than Lois Lerner making a statement then declare the 5th, pension sent on time in full thank you.

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (ZCEU2)

50 Willowed...

Unpopular opinion: I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump. I think they genuinely believed the bullshit from the dossier. The strongest evidence I have for that is Peter Strzok's text message to Page that "There's probably no 'there' there." That tells me that at one point he believed in Russiagate but had come to doubt the conspiracy. I think they're guilty of gross negligence, but not conspiracy. Brennan and people in the CIA/NSA, on the other hand, I believe framed up the whole thing by getting Misfud and Downer to "incept" Russiagate into the Trump campaign. But those guys are probably too careful to leave behind evidence to nail them on.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (Xqo6t)

51 The best weapon against cockroaches is a flashlight.

Trump is a magnesium flare.
Posted by: zombie

Problem is, nothing is lit.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (fXB+v)

52 Let's not pretend though that but for this refusal that Horowitz would have issued the damning report we all hoped for.

There is no solace to be found.

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (ZfRYq)

53
So you read Hemingways piece from this morning. It helped me get perspective.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:02 PM (90T4r)

No, that's what JackStraw has been saying for months now.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Leftovers are The Bachelor's Main Meal! at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (0QYMt)

54 I also don't think it will hinder Durham in his investigation as much as people might think, especially if he winds up prosecuting some of the people who actually wrote the report. Well i can dream anyway.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (+dsLj)

55 Have Levin on

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (ZCEU2)

56 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (90T4r)

Sickened that my initial suspicion has been confirmed - no one involved in this coup will so much as get their hair mussed.

And pissed off beyond words that the country will get its panties in a twist about a goddamned fucking PELOTON COMMERCIAL and yet can't get up off their frigging couches for one weekend to march on DC and drag these bastards in tumbrils en masse to the National Mall.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (Ki5SV)

57 vmom-

Are you in here ?

JT to vmom, JT to vmom, come in please !

Posted by: JT at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (arJlL)

58 There's a passage in the Report that is vintage Horowitz. He is discussing Bruce Ohr..

"we concluded that the federal ethics rules did not require Ohr to obtain Department ethics counsel approval before engaging with the FBI in connection with the Crossfire Hurricane matter because of Nellie Ohr's prior work for GPS. However, we found that, given the factual circumstances that existed, and the appearance that they created, Ohr displayed a lapse of judgement..."

That's it. Good old "lapse of judgment." No intent. No bias.

I don't know which is more insulting, the report or the fact we waited 21 months for it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (H8QX8)

59 "Now, one can get out of a lot of perjury charges by claiming one just
didn't remember right, but if someone shows you documentary evidence
about what the facts are and you still claim you don't remember, or you remember a version of the story at variance with the written contemporaneous record...?"

Just keep saying you don't remember. Works for me.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (l3+k2)

60 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify.�

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (90T4r)�

I don't actually care about Soy Wars anymore, and Barr/ Durham are going further to push back on Horowitz than Reno went with Starr. I'm not bothered because I'm not actually relying on the government to clean up after itself. In many ways, I welcome their failure. You can't throw out the rotten system otherwise.

Posted by: trev006 at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (6OzV/)

61 http://player.listenlive.co/25111

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (ZCEU2)

62 I know we use LOLGF a lot but that is exactly what these Deep State MFers say every day to Americans.

I'm damn sick of it.

Posted by: jsg at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (/lXod)

63 Unable to compete testimony eh?
Bullshit.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2019 06:07 PM (axyOa)

64 I heard Comey trained the Boston office.

Posted by: BignJames at December 09, 2019 06:08 PM (X/Pw5)

65 14
Couldn't the President have declassified the docs the IG wanted to use?

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (dmYb7)

_______

I believe he did several months ago and his left it in AG Barr's hands. Don't know what's taking so long unless they want to use it as an October surprise or something.

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:08 PM (+jo58)

66 Unpopular opinion: I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump. I think they genuinely believed the bullshit from the dossier.

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If they believed it then they are even more bumfucking keystone cop fucknads than i thought. They don't call them the fucking bureau of idiots for nothing.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Everywhere at December 09, 2019 06:08 PM (+dsLj)

67 Aside from all this, still nice to know where we stand with our government.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (qC1Sy)

68 I cant believe half of my paycheck goes to the federal state and local shitshow

Posted by: Regular Joe at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (6/uwW)

69 This is just the IG asking questions. He can't compell testimony.

Durham on the other hand...

Posted by: Minuteman at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (T5bqo)

70 TRUMP!

Posted by: MAGA at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (E+oV2)

71 >>If they believed it then they are even more bumfucking keystone cop fucknads than i thought.

They work for the Federal Government.

Pretty safe bet that they are useless.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (CjeDS)

72 Isn't the IG under DOJ?
Oh and meant Durham, not Huber in my last post.

Posted by: sharon at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (QzF6i)

73 #WhiteWashPrivilege

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:10 PM (+jo58)

74 And let's not forget - Horowitz previously made a criminal referral on Comey on leaking classified material.

DOJ declined to prosecute.

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:10 PM (ZfRYq)

75 I have to start daily reading of Psalm 37 again.

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2019 06:10 PM (GaIDK)

76 >>DOJ declined to prosecute.

I think Durham has Comey in his sights.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (CjeDS)

77 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify

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Same day as yesterday. Nothing of consequence will happen to anyone above the deputy director of the assistant deputy directors deputy assistant director.

And probably not to them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (ht3TX)

78 If all they had was the Dossier, what was the initial FISA warrant request based on? I thought they threw in the Dossier on the second try.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (hbTkw)

79 Isn't the IG under DOJ?
Oh and meant Durham, not Huber in my last post.
Posted by: sharon at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (QzF6i)

IGs are responsible for investigating complaints against the agency they are attached to, so under the DOJ? Not in the way you mean

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (85Gof)

80 The Feebs. Indeed. If they were not so malicious, they would be hilarious.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:12 PM (90T4r)

81 I think Durham has Comey in his sights.
Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (CjeDS)

And he will pull the trigger then in, what, #twoweeks?

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:12 PM (ZfRYq)

82 I cant believe half of my paycheck goes to the federal state and local shitshow

I know, right? Your hard-earned dollars are helping to feed the monster that threatens to devour you.

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (EgshT)

83 If all they had was the Dossier, what was the initial FISA warrant request based on? I thought they threw in the Dossier on the second try.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (hbTkw)

Other than the dossier, things Horowitz was not allowed to ask about CIA and nsa stuff. So NOT his aor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (85Gof)

84 58 But Eric Trump who has no role in the govt. was told by government ethics departments that due to his father being elected President he had to close his own personal foundation that had raised hundreds of millions of dollars for St Jude resulting in the construction of an entire new wing of the hospital. Think about that one.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (SjFj+)

85 #WhiteWashPrivilege

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:10 PM (+jo5

#DeepStatePrivilege

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (BiNEL)

86 Wray is pissed!

Asked whether he thought the FBI unfairly targeted the Trump campaign, Wray offered a terse reply: "I do not."

Wray, reacting to the release of the IG report in an interview with ABC News, said that one key takeaway for him was that "the Inspector General did not find political bias or improper motivations impacting the opening of the investigation or the decision to use certain investigative tools during the investigations."

"Including FISA?"

"Including FISA," Wray said

Wray pushed back on the "Deep State" characterization of the bureau's work.

"I think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said. "So that's not a term I would ever use to describe our work force and I think it's an affront to them."

Posted by: MAGA at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (E+oV2)

87 So the IG could easily be stymied by the people committing deliberate wrongdoing.

The whole system is obviously structured to cover-up wrongdoing, not reveal it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (hbTkw)

88 I cant believe half of my paycheck goes to the federal state and local shitshow

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And something like 1 of every 10 dollars actually reaches the stated goal. The rest feeds the beast on the way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (ht3TX)

89 "Unpopular opinion: I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump. I think they genuinely believed the bullshit from the dossier."

Not for a second do I accept that. Listen to Strzok and Page's text messages. They loathed Trump.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (H8QX8)

90 From The Babylon Bee:

Christian Living
Linus Appears At Hearings To Explain True Meaning Of Impeachment
December 9th, 2019

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (+y/Ru)

91 Hi yall. Anything happen today?

Posted by: Nasty Pelosi at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (Tnijr)

92 At least the IG report is getting some coverage in the media, unlike the total blackout concerning the backlash being endured by the Muslim community in Pensacola.

Posted by: Music Store Owner at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (vI+F1)

93 >>And he will pull the trigger then in, what, #twoweeks?

I think that is the only reason the DOJ defers a slam dunk prosecution from the IG referral.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:14 PM (CjeDS)

94 8 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify.
Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (90T4r)
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Disappointed but not surprised.

And have no reason to have any regard for any government institution any more.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 09, 2019 06:14 PM (qC1Sy)

95 oh damn off nasty sock

Posted by: freakdd at December 09, 2019 06:14 PM (Tnijr)

96 The Deep State has achieved victory through sheer tedium.

I think that's the strategy of the remainers in the UK: delay and flood everyone with BS legalese until everyone just gives up

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:14 PM (KZzsI)

97 As this all unfolds, it only reinforces all of my views on the Federal Government. Their business is staying in business, which means staying in the cushy jobs, for fun, profit and just the joy of shoving people around.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (90T4r)

98 How 'bout a movement to abolish automatic payroll deduction for any and all reasons?
82 I cant believe half of my paycheck goes to the federal state and local shitshow

I know, right? Your hard-earned dollars are helping to feed the monster that threatens to devour you.
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (EgshT)

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (glGDV)

99 >>"I think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said. "So that's not a term I would ever use to describe our work force and I think it's an affront to them."

Fuck you and fuck those Ham and Eggers, Buddy!

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (CjeDS)

100 "How is the Horde?"

Hot 'n horny as usual

Posted by: freakdd at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (Tnijr)

101 If and possibly there is no Justice in the system any longer then the questions answers it self, doesn't it.

I asked awhile back What Would you do if you believe that there is no rule of law. I have answered that question for myself and will or die by that decision.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (Nv4st)

102 "I think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said. "So that's not a term I would ever use to describe our work force and I think it's an affront to them."

Ooooh, "Faye" Wray sounds guilty AF.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (U7qMl)

103 Wray is pissed!

Fire his ass

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (6XlcD)

104 >>"How is the Horde?"

I could use some Therapy Tits.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (CjeDS)

105 "How is the Horde?"

Po-faced and well-armed.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (U7qMl)

106 Unpopular opinion: I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump. I think they genuinely believed the bullshit from the dossier.

I think most of the people involved were just pushing papers like they are paid to, doing a job and not anything personal, but that some at the heart of it were definitely in on it and trying to destroy Trump because we have them on record saying so

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (KZzsI)

107 Wray said. "So that's not a term I would ever use to describe our work force and I think it's an affront to them."

If he thinks that's an affront...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (z79tQ)

108
How does an inspector inspect something he can't inspect?

And why does he bother with a conclusion?

Should have admitted he can't conclude shyt under the circumstances.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (M9ntN)

109 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened?
I think everybody is fine. Its just the confirmation that everything is bad as you thought it was leads to frustration. People can and are getting away scot free with an attempted coup. That small tinge of hope that there will be justice evaporated into the nethers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (r+sAi)

110 Aaaand the old, funky punchline to the long joke told by Richard Belzer used to be, "The Aristocrats" should be changed to, "The Deep State."

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (glGDV)

111 87
So the IG could easily be stymied by the people committing deliberate wrongdoing.

The whole system is obviously structured to cover-up wrongdoing, not reveal it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (hbTkw)

Kind of like an insurance policy.

Posted by: Peter S at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (l3+k2)

112 "the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said."

Go f*ck yourself.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (H8QX8)

113 >>"I think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said. "So that's not a term I would ever use to describe our work force and I think it's an affront to them."

Fuck you and fuck those Ham and Eggers, Buddy!
Posted by: garrett

----

Seriously.

Keeping your head down until you retire is not a virtue.

Fuck all those people at the FBI who don't like to make waves.

Posted by: RKae at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (4yrpr)

114 Wray is a prototypical insider. Fuck him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (85Gof)

115 "How is the Horde?"

Pissed but not surprised... Lucy pulled the old football away again

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (6XlcD)

116 Not only should withholding be abolished (make people cut that check and think about what it means), the employer's part of of your Social Security and Medicare taxes, any head taxes, etc. should all be printed on the pay statement. This is illegal today.

Having to write that tax check and see how much lower your income is because of taxes should look you in your face, not be swept away and made invisible.

Without withholding, there'd be a revolution at the end of April.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (I2dne)

117 Except for Donald Trump, and maybe a few Freedom Caucus members like Jim Jordan, DC is a chithole with zero value.

The corruption is becoming legendary, and the once-curious and detached press who is supposed to highlight it has become a co-star.

Sorry, I have to stop now, don't want to get banned with my very simple and effective solution.

But if you thought it involved, helicopters, wood chippers, rope and lamp posts, you would be spot on.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (sy5kK)

118 Think about that one.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (SjFj+)

To be fair, a generous contributor might have given million$ to an IRS audited tax exempt charitable organization that funded St Judes and the President would have been able to give such a contributor sweetheart deals just because of those contributions!
/s

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (BiNEL)

119 "Now, one can get out of a lot of perjury charges by claiming one just
didn't remember right, but if someone shows you documentary evidence
about what the facts are and you still claim you don't remember, or you remember a version of the story at variance with the written contemporaneous record...?"

Just keep saying you don't remember. Works for me.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton

Perjuring oneself by swearing out a FISA warrant should be a slam dunk...

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (fXB+v)

120 "Unpopular opinion: I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump"

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

Posted by: freakdd at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (Tnijr)

121 We can haz therapy tits?

I'd like perky C-cups with pink aereoli por favor.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (U7qMl)

122 I could use some Therapy Tits.
Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (CjeDS)

Is that a choice?!!
Why hasn't anyone brought this to my attention before now?
Sign me up. I too want some therapy tits.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (z79tQ)

123 And I've heard some pretty dumb stuff today.

Posted by: freakdd at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (Tnijr)

124 77 How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened? By the Horowitz report, not by Star Wars. To clarify

-

Same day as yesterday. Nothing of consequence will happen to anyone above the deputy director of the assistant deputy directors deputy assistant director.

And probably not to them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:11 PM (ht3TX)

---

Meh, had no expectations to dash.

Posted by: SMH at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (RU4sa)

125 How is the Horde? ...
Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 05:59 PM (90T4r)
+++++++++
Belligerent and numerous.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (I2dne)

126 102 "I think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said.

Does that include all the ones that have been fired in the last three years, dick?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (hbTkw)

127 That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Posted by: freakdd at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (Tnijr)

So you did not watch the hearings either

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (85Gof)

128 >>I'd like perky C-cups with pink aereoli por favor.

I'll have what he's having.

But, can you make mine with Puffy Pink Areoli?

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (CjeDS)

129
...
The corruption is becoming legendary, and the once-curious and detached press who is supposed to highlight it has become a co-star.
...
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (sy5kK)
+++++++++++++
As YD once put it, "The problem is not that the state has become corrupt - it is that corruption has become the state."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (I2dne)

130 Having to write that tax check and see how much lower your income is because of taxes should look you in your face, not be swept away and made invisible.

Without withholding, there'd be a revolution at the end of April.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Without withholding, no one would have the tax money.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (fXB+v)

131 I could use some Therapy Tits.

Take her with you on the airplane. "No, Miss Keely Hazel is my comfort breasts, I need them with me on the flight"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (KZzsI)

132 What I enjoyed from the report was the use of "inaccuracies" in place of lies

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (6XlcD)

133 Did Anyone expect anything differently? Anyone? This is government. Investigating government.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:01 PM (90T4r)
..........

I get this weird picture in my head of a room full of retards fondling each others balls.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (v0R5T)

134 I am sorry but anyone arguing that this report helps our side is just wrong.

Because now it puts Durham at odds with the IG. The bad guys have got their end zone dances. Think Comey is REALLY worried that he is facing legal jeapordy? How about McCabe? Supposedly he has a criminal case against him, but he doesn't mind talking about this whole situation on TV. For money.

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (ZfRYq)

135 Without withholding, no one would have the tax money.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (fXB+v)
++++++++++++
That's a secondary benefit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (I2dne)

136 IG Report Confirms Comey Briefed Barack Obama on Trump-Russia Investigation in August 2016 at White House Meeting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (85Gof)

137 I wonder if there is a historical analog where behind the scenes spies and beaurocrats work to put themselves in power before eventually assuming control.

Nah, probably not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (ht3TX)

138 128 >>I'd like perky C-cups with pink aereoli por favor.

I'll have what he's having.

But, can you make mine with Puffy Pink Areoli?
Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (CjeDS)

So, D's are excessive?? Cause I think in these times D's are called for.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:21 PM (90T4r)

139 128
>>I'd like perky C-cups with pink aereoli por favor.

I'll have what he's having.

But, can you make mine with Puffy Pink Areoli?

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (CjeDS)

Commies. Go D or go back to mother Russia.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 09, 2019 06:21 PM (1CjJc)

140 "
Meh, had no expectations to dash.

Posted by: SMH at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (RU4sa) "

Pretty much where I'm at, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 09, 2019 06:21 PM (JwHjN)

141 So, D's are excessive?? Cause I think in these times D's are called for.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:21 PM (90T4r)

Spoken like a true patriot.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (1CjJc)

142 Horde mind, flounder. Horde mind.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (90T4r)

143 IG sez CH opened solely on basis of foreign govt. info.

IG sez this met low threshold for starting investigation.

Presumably Durham's been able to take a look at the info, and found it wanting.

But it's laughable that the IG, and now Wray, pretend to believe that with the massive ongoing direct and collateral anti-Trump shenanigans which are partially or substantially documented, and which date back to *2015*, and the massive histrionic evidence of anti-Trump animus among all the principal players [and involvement of the Obama WH] - that there was no hit job attempted.

Wray is a disaster, worst Trump appointment by far [which, unfortunately, is saying something].

Posted by: rhomboid at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (El6T/)

144 Commies. Go D or go back to mother Russia.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 09, 2019 06:21 PM (1CjJc)
---------------

No, commies are the ones who'll look at a pretty gal and go "no, not big enough, so, no, I don't want to see them."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (qC1Sy)

145 I doubt it's a mere coincidence Tax Day is as far away as possible from Election Day.

Posted by: davidt at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (l3+k2)

146 Meh, had no expectations to dash.

Posted by: SMH at December 09, 2019 06:18 PM (RU4sa)

-

Fistbump.

If anything, I'm out a lot of money buying drinks for everyone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (ht3TX)

147 TBF, I'd even appreciate some willing As.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (1CjJc)

148 Wray isn't pissed. He is taking a victory lap.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (r+sAi)

149 Finally summoned the courage to listen to Levin. Wish me luck!

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (GaIDK)

150 Wray isn't pissed. He is taking a victory lap

What you said

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (6XlcD)

151 "Without withholding, no one would have the tax money.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (fXB+v) "

Which, in its own way, would be even more educational, imho.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (JwHjN)

152 I suspect voters will feel the same way about the IG report as they do about impeachment: bored & uninterested. This is for political junkies.

Posted by: mnw at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (Cssks)

153 Now girls are thinking about comfort pecs. "I had to have Bradley Cooper sit next to me on the plane, so I can rest my head on his manly chest"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (KZzsI)

154 I doubt it's a mere coincidence Tax Day is as far away as possible from Election Day.
Posted by: davidt at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (l3+k2)
+++++++++++++
It is also approximately my breakeven day. I love working four months a year to pay for a government that despises me and wants me dead.

This, more than anything, makes me want to quit my job.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (I2dne)

155 Accordingto the IG it's open season on the President.

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:23 PM (ZCEU2)

156 All this is gonna get done to us. Not by us, to us. How our response to getting done to is what matters now. The cat's outta the bag now.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (90T4r)

157 Finally summoned the courage to listen to Levin. Wish me luck!

Posted by: kallisto at December

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He's fun in a weird way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (ht3TX)

158 Matt Eaton: Ghostbusters 3 looks a lot like The Force Awakens

Maybe, but only in that Abrams borrowed heavily from previously used themes in the same way (young people ignorant of the past get an artifact from a heroic predecessor and use it to protect their people from the same old threat).

But as he implies, don't get too jazzed about a slickly produced trailer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:05 PM (KZzsI)

If Disney/Lucas hadn't produced Force Awakens it would have sued the maker for plagiarism, the show is just about 100% rewritten of the original Start Wars.

The idea does support my view that writers/directors with a few exceptions can't hold things together well and need to copy rather than innovate.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (eoQWY)

159 152 I suspect voters will feel the same way about the IG report as they do about impeachment: bored & uninterested. This is for political junkies.

I need some better drugs

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (6XlcD)

160 Well the IG report was not the whitewash that many here claimed it would be.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (JUOKG)

161 Wray is a disaster, worst Trump appointment by far [which, unfortunately, is saying something].

Posted by: rhomboid at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (El6T/)

I have come to believe that it is well nigh impossible to find an honest man or woman in the employ of the FBI or the DOJ.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (BiNEL)

162 IG Report Confirms Comey Briefed Barack Obama on Trump-Russia Investigation in August 2016 at White House Meeting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (85Gof)

No way is it plausible that Obamao knew anything about coordinations between DoJ FBI DoS DoD and WH (the list that I am aware of).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (1g7ch)

163 Yep. Wray is no pony in the shit pile. Fucking shit piles as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (dJrqU)

164 Any hidden reason why Trump chose such wankers in such critical positions as AG and FBI? Maybe he wanted things to come apart, thinking this was the best way to expose the corruption and if he'd hired firebrand reformists he would have caused violent commotion and distracted him from the economic refurbishment project?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (H8QX8)

165 50 Willowed...

Unpopular opinion: I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump. I think they genuinely believed the bullshit from the dossier. The strongest evidence I have for that is Peter Strzok's text message to Page that "There's probably no 'there' there." That tells me that at one point he believed in Russiagate but had come to doubt the conspiracy. I think they're guilty of gross negligence, but not conspiracy. Brennan and people in the CIA/NSA, on the other hand, I believe framed up the whole thing by getting Misfud and Downer to "incept" Russiagate into the Trump campaign. But those guys are probably too careful to leave behind evidence to nail them on.
Posted by: Serious Cat at December 09, 2019 06:06 PM (Xqo6t)

sorry, that doesn't fly.

even if they thought something was hinky, their actions were much more illegal and corrupt than anything Trump's team was alleged to do.

Comey and Baker did a lot more than just driving the getaway car from the bank robbery.

They planned it and hired the team of robbers.

The rule of law in America is collapsing quickly.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (sy5kK)

166 So the correlation question: If hillary had won and this was done to her, how many prosecutions would be happening or had already been done at this point in time?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (r+sAi)

167 I believe we'd be in a better place if we had Ukrainian prostitutes
delivering golden showers rather than the Russians.

The Russian
presentation is just a little bit to ostentatious for patrons of
a delicate nature.

Posted by: Lord Comey at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (zD38/)

168 I have come to believe that it is well nigh impossible to find an honest man or woman in the employ of the FBI or the DOJ.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (BiNEL)
+++++++++++++
Absolutely.

Just don't bother filling the positions. We'll be just fine if those chairs remain empty.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (I2dne)

169 Meh, had no expectations to dash.

Ditto.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (EgshT)

170 Nice thing about Levin is he'll point you towards a lot of valuable source materials. Guy has to be a voracious reader.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (CjeDS)

171 I admit it: my budget discipline stinks. Out of sight, out of mind. Your observation and conclusion is a good one.
Without withholding, there'd be a revolution at the end of April.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Without withholding, no one would have the tax money.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (fXB+v)

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (glGDV)

172 >>If they believed it then they are even more bumfucking keystone cop fucknads than i thought.

They work for the Federal Government.

Pretty safe bet that they are useless.
Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:09 PM (CjeDS)

A bureaucrat that forgets the golden rule - cover your ass? Worse than useless.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (eoQWY)

173 As despicable as he is, I can't fault Comey for using his rights to avoid prosecution. I know I would.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (yQpMk)

174 Been busy all day, but Ace. I have to say. I saw the headline a few threads down about "Strategic Pastry Repository Alex Vindman" That my friend was pure poetry! Epic. And a standing ovation merited. Well done sir, well done!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (r7Fvf)

175 So the correlation question: If hillary had won and this was done to her, how many prosecutions would be happening or had already been done at this point in time?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (r+sAi)
+++++++++++++
Everyone involved in the coup attempt would be dead.

And I am not being hyperbolic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (I2dne)

176 All this is gonna get done to us. Not by us, to us. How our response to getting done to is what matters now. The cat's outta the bag now.
Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (90T4r)

Even if Trump wins again, does anybody here STILL think we can vote our way out of this?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (K3zSe)

177 164 Any hidden reason why Trump chose such wankers in such critical positions as AG and FBI? Maybe he wanted things to come apart, thinking this was the best way to expose the corruption and if he'd hired firebrand reformists he would have caused violent commotion and distracted him from the economic refurbishment project?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 09, 2019 06:25 PM (H8QX

=======

Because they were the only ones that could get through the Senate at the time.

Posted by: Jackal at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (o3+fQ)

178 I have come to believe that it is well nigh impossible to find an honest man or woman in the employ of the FBI or the DOJ.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (BiNEL)

---
or anywhere else in DC, for that matter.

criminals as far as the eye can see.

F them all.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (NYIfp)

179 Upshot of Horowitz: The FBI didn't make politically motivated decisions, they are simply incompetent at basic investigative procedures and civil liberties at their highest level.

Frankly, making politically motivated decisions would have worked better.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (dNzKv)

180 Even if Trump wins again, does anybody here STILL think we can vote our way out of this?

No, but it'll be fun for a while watching the Dems heads explode

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (6XlcD)

181 "the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said.
..........

Well bless your heart. Now you be a good lad and be sure to thank them all for their service now, would you?

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2019 06:28 PM (v0R5T)

182 173 As despicable as he is, I can't fault Comey for using his rights to avoid prosecution. I know I would.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM (yQpMk)

People in law enforcement should have the same rights as the military: Basically none

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:28 PM (85Gof)

183 Upshot of Horowitz: The FBI didn't make politically motivated decisions, they are simply incompetent at basic investigative procedures and civil liberties at their highest level.

Frankly, making politically motivated decisions would have worked better.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (dNzKv)
+++++++++++++
Nah, you can't hold it against them if there was no malice. They can't help being stupid.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:28 PM (I2dne)

184 During the day's reading, it came up that Horowitz did not have the power to subpoena documents, either.

Posted by: mrp at December 09, 2019 06:28 PM (Pqytn)

185 As despicable as he is, I can't fault Comey for using his rights to avoid prosecution. I know I would.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 09, 2019 06:26 PM

Fuck him, he's part of the problem. I don't care. He's stripped more rights than he deserves. Pineapple, sideways, with hot sauce on it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:28 PM (r7Fvf)

186 Not voting out of this. Sad.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 09, 2019 06:28 PM (dJrqU)

187 rhomboid, I am no fan of Wray but name me someone else that would have been confirmed please.

Another standard trope - We'll vote them out- can you reach a majority of 700,000 people that constitute your congressional district?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (Nv4st)

188 He was assured by Preibus and the rest of the GOPe that they were the best.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (dNzKv)

189 "I think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the men and women who work at the FBI who I think tackle their jobs with professionalism, with rigor, with objectivity, with courage," Wray said. "So that's not a term I would ever use to describe our work force and I think it's an affront to them."
Posted by: MAGA at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (E+oV2)

If I ever hear of such an FBI agent, Wray, I'll apologize. All i hear about these days is bias, coup attempts, spying and incompetent handling of mass shooters from you all.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (eoQWY)

190 Well the IG report was not the whitewash that many here claimed it would be.

The conclusions and recommendation sections seems to be.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (yQpMk)

191 >>I have come to believe that it is well nigh impossible to find an honest man or woman in the employ of the FBI or the DOJ.

To give you an idea : When I worked on the fit up for the Federal Facilities we built, the Gov typically spent 4-5x on its INTERIOR SECURITY package than they did on the Exterior Security Package.

Two of these facilities had DEA Offices (Evidence pens and Holding pens in each).

They were doing that much more surveilence on themselves!

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (CjeDS)

192 I figure Wray is doing what his job details: protecting his office and employees. But yeah, he needs to be out of there, and replaced with someone who recognizes the problems and will work on it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (KZzsI)

193 Doesn't these gop have some kids who can testify about things they heard other people say? We're need to keep up,people

Posted by: Mack the jack at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (dDXVe)

194 50 I don't think anyone in the FBI was in on a plot to get Trump

Hey Strzok, GFY.

Posted by: jsg at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (/lXod)

195 People in law enforcement should have the same rights as the military: Basically none

Yeah, but he was fired. He's not in LE anymore.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 09, 2019 06:30 PM (yQpMk)

196 I do. The experts failed to see the collapse of the Soviets coming decades ago. The experts, except Ann Coulter, failed to see Donald Trump elected President.

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:30 PM (glGDV)

197 rhomboid, I am no fan of Wray but name me someone else that would have been confirmed please.

...
Posted by: Ben Had at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (Nv4st)
++++++++++++
Don't nominate anyone. Leave the seat empty. The next guy down the chain gets the magical title of "Acting position"

Then fire those guys until you get one who isn't a shit heel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:31 PM (I2dne)

198 Have sex with that headless chicken; the arrests are coming

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 09, 2019 06:31 PM (vPKfA)

199 Any hidden reason why Trump chose such wankers in such critical positions as AG and FBI?
----

My own opinion is that Trump had not really grasped the depth and breath of the corruption, and complete absence of character and integrity that are/were consequent of the Clinton/Obama years. Actually, the the era beginning with, oh, Carter.

Others will say it has been evolving since the 30's, but I refer to those currently living and accountable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2019 06:31 PM (61e6C)

200 I do. The experts failed to see the collapse of the Soviets coming decades ago. The experts, except Ann Coulter, failed to see Donald Trump elected President.
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:30 PM

They also missed Pearl Harbor. 9-11 etc.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:31 PM (r7Fvf)

201 Teh boobehs

'Tis these soft, soothing orbs of pulchritude, and not beer (contrary to the popular expression) that is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Shall I compare them to a summers day?
They art more bouncy and more jiggly,
Rough hands may shake the darling buds of May,
And a gentlemen's eye and hand enjoy them biggly.

Posted by: Ryne Sandburg at December 09, 2019 06:32 PM (6VvF+)

202 Well the IG report was not the whitewash that many here claimed it would be.
Posted by: Mr. Scott

Criminal referrals: 0

Yeah. It was.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:32 PM (fXB+v)

203 "Well the IG report was not the whitewash that many here claimed it would be."

And James Comey sounded like he was going to throw Hillary in jail right up until he let her skate.

Posted by: jsg at December 09, 2019 06:32 PM (/lXod)

204 The more time goes by, the more I believe these politicians are crooked.

Posted by: Eromero at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (UUkQp)

205 I forgot to paste this on:

180 Even if Trump wins again, does anybody here STILL think we can vote our way out of this?

No, but it'll be fun for a while watching the Dems heads explode
Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (6XlcD)

Then my optimistic reply:

196 I do. The experts failed to see the collapse of the Soviets coming decades ago. The experts, except Ann Coulter, failed to see Donald Trump elected President.
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:30 PM (glGDV

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (glGDV)

206 Joe Mannix, I agree with you. I'd make Joe the Janitor the head guy cause he knows where all the shit is.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (Nv4st)

207 192 I figure Wray is doing what his job details: protecting his office and employees. But yeah, he needs to be out of there, and replaced with someone who recognizes the problems and will work on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 09, 2019 06:29 PM (KZzsI)

Wray has it completely wrong.

You don't work for the FBI, asswipe.

You work for the American people.

And you are lying to them and covering up for your crooked employees and your crooked organization.

Asswipe.

Die a painful and slow death.

Asswipe.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (sy5kK)

208 SCOTUS refuses challenge to KY abortion law trying to claim showing ultrasound images violates a doctor's free speech rights. Lolgf and bake that cake bigots.

Maybe Philip Morris has their 1A rights violated by the surgeon general's warning too then

Posted by: Mst3k at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (NGGek)

209 Damn it, off Cubs 2nd baseman sock.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (6VvF+)

210 176 All this is gonna get done to us. Not by us, to us. How our response to getting done to is what matters now. The cat's outta the bag now.
Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:24 PM (90T4r)

Even if Trump wins again, does anybody here STILL think we can vote our way out of this?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (K3zSe)

ONLY if he somehow had a solid Congress majority with him. And I sadly note that the GOPee deliberately sabotaged that in 2017-2018.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:34 PM (ujg0T)

211 And speaking of Hillary: she had not been charged with a crime therefore jeopardy has not attached.

What prevents the Attorney General from charging her now?

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (glGDV)

212 Other than the dossier, things Horowitz was not allowed to ask about CIA and nsa stuff. So NOT his aor

Sheesh. So there's no way he can even state any of the things he has stated with any authority.

IGs are worse than useless against systemic corruption.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (hbTkw)

213 And James Comey sounded like he was going to throw Hillary in jail right up until he let her skate.
Posted by: jsg at December 09, 2019 06:32 PM

Like intentionally setting up a private server secured in a shitter in CO. Deleting 30K emails, smashing phones etc. Was just "careless" not intentional! Just reckless! Ooops! Have a good day! Fuck him. I'd love to see him hang. Sanctimonious pine scented asshole.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (r7Fvf)

214 Eventually one of the coup is going to get shot. Then all hell breaks loose.

Posted by: davidt at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (l3+k2)

215 196 I do. The experts failed to see the collapse of the Soviets coming decades ago. The experts, except Ann Coulter, failed to see Donald Trump elected President.
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:30 PM (glGDV
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (glGDV)

So you think Trump will have these crooks all out of the system before he's gone? That everything will be ok in 5 years?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (K3zSe)

216 All the fucking lies. All these asswipes do is lie. As simple as breathing.

Our society is now forever and permanently damaged. All because charlatans want money and power.

Sad. Very, very sad.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM (dJrqU)

217 Was there a controversial Peloton commercial?

I keep missing the outrage du jour

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM (AIG0e)

218 And speaking of Hillary: she had not been charged with a crime therefore jeopardy has not attached.

What prevents the Attorney General from charging her now?
Posted by: 80's music fan

Balls.
A spine.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM (fXB+v)

219 Don't nominate anyone. Leave the seat empty. The next guy down the chain gets the magical title of "Acting position"

Then fire those guys until you get one who isn't a shit heel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
-----

We have been through 4 'Check Box' police chiefs in the 5 or 6 years. None lasted 2 years, one didn't even last a month.

In each case, the Assistant Chief took over for the interim. Why not just give him the job? He doesn't want it. Our hyper-progressive City Council has so poisoned the city to the extent that no one wants to police it.

Police count - down
Needle count - up

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM (d4+cE)

220 A Higher Loyalty indeed. To keepin' his sorry ass out of prison.

As the prosecutor lowers Comey another inch into the running woodchipper, and his toes are now brushing the spinning blades, defense counsel yells

Objection, Your Honor! He's feeding the witness!

> Overruled.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM (Z4rgH)

221 In terms of conclusions, and the laughable claim that there is no evidence of "intentional" massive malfeasance - just, um, massive malfeasance - the IG report *is* very much a whitewash.

And as I keep saying - *in context, which is known to the IG people - it is pretty brazenly a whitewash. They just happened to really believe a ridiculous thin "tip" about some no-name, and they just happened to *not do the standard, instant defensive briefing to Trump's camp* that has been SOP since forever, and they just happened to then embark on a months-long festival of felonious false FISA warrant applications, even as [of course] no evidence emerged of anything to substantiate the very dubious tip*.

This report *is* the perfect bookend to the Mid-Year Exam outrage, which unlike this one - probably - was successful in blessing and immunizing probably the greatest govt.-centric obstruction and denial of justice in our history.

* presumably Durham has been able to confirm the fraudulent nature of even that "tip"

Posted by: rhomboid at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM (El6T/)

222 80's music fan. Nothing and Judicial Watch is still taking depositions to hang her ass.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (Nv4st)

223 And James Comey sounded like he was going to throw Hillary in jail right up until he let her skate.
Posted by: jsg at December 09, 2019 06:32 PM

Like intentionally setting up a private server secured in a shitter in CO. Deleting 30K emails, smashing phones etc. Was just "careless" not intentional! Just reckless! Ooops! Have a good day! Fuck him. I'd love to see him hang. Sanctimonious pine scented asshole.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (r7Fvf)

Not to me he never did. I could tell the fix was in from the start, there.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (eoQWY)

224 John Solomon read the report and says these FISA had 51 violations and 9 false statements.

Ok, then....and the official recommendation.... the FBI should do better.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (r+sAi)

225 What prevents the Attorney General from charging her now?
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (glGDV)
------------

That would be worth it, because if Hillary got any word she might be charged with a crime, she'd probably enter the presidential race faster than she can down a fifth of vodka.

The Mumu Express would make for an epic campaign.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (qC1Sy)

226 210

128 >>I'd like perky C-cups with pink aereoli por favor.

I'll have what he's having.

But, can you make mine with Puffy Pink Areoli?
Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (CjeDS)

I wonder how many " retiring" Republicans come back to DC as Deep State, or Big Corporation lobbyists. Or working for some convoluted, murkily funded NGO? DC is a fertile overflowing trough.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (90T4r)

227 215 196 I do. The experts failed to see the collapse of the Soviets coming decades ago. The experts, except Ann Coulter, failed to see Donald Trump elected President.
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:30 PM (glGDV
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:33 PM (glGDV)

So you think Trump will have these crooks all out of the system before he's gone? That everything will be ok in 5 years?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (K3zSe)

A modest proposal: President Pence (2025-2033) has Donald Trump retained as a "President Emeritus", and that such a Cabinet position be created.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (ujg0T)

228 Even if Trump wins again, does anybody here STILL think we can vote our way out of this?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (K3zSe)

Not me

Posted by: clutch at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (+mbOC)

229 Don't nominate anyone. Leave the seat empty. The next guy down the chain gets the magical title of "Acting position"

Then fire those guys until you get one who isn't a shit heel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 09, 2019 06:31 PM (I2dne)

IIRC, an "acting" Director can be dismissed, and replaced with the next in line, because the President doesn't like his tie!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (BiNEL)

230 217 Was there a controversial Peloton commercial?

I keep missing the outrage du jour
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM

....

Yes. It shows a dude buying one for his wife as a Christmas present.

Then she enjoys working out on it.

So you can see the reason everyone is pissed about it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (6VvF+)

231 Was there a controversial Peloton commercial?

I keep missing the outrage du jour
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM

Yes, Rosie's strap on wife got her one and said. "go for a ride fatty".

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:39 PM (r7Fvf)

232 Sounds like the IG report was exactly like Comey's on Hillary, name the things that were wrong doing but say no one did these on purpose so it's all good.

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:39 PM (ZCEU2)

233 Well the IG report was not the whitewash that many here claimed it would be.

Posted by: Mr. Scott

Criminal referrals: 0

Yeah. It was.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:32 PM (fXB+v)

==============================
What today's report did do was essentially confirm every statement uttered by Nunes, Jordan, and every other Republican and constitutionalist sounding the alarm on matters concerning The Greatest Hoax committed in American History. Horowitz put his spin out there with at least one hand tied behind his back. He couldn't force ousted DOJ and FBI employees to testify, and he couldn't subpoena at least some documents that might have been withheld (not that the FBI would ever do such a thing). The IG investigators, as far as I know, have confirmed that gross irregularities were committed by public servants that had a direct impact on a national election. It will be up to Barr and Durham to prove the criminal intent and methods.

Posted by: mrp at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (Pqytn)

234 Yes. It shows a dude buying one for his wife as a Christmas present.

Then she enjoys working out on it.

So you can see the reason everyone is pissed about it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (6VvF+)

I heard that, but what exactly are they mad about?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (85Gof)

235 Second look at secession?

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (AIG0e)

236 Given that we are a net exported of oil
and gas, Trump should do away with the Departmentnof Energy. Goal
Has been met.

He should propose to get rid of the Department of Education and tell the voters he will spend the money allocated to all those loser bureaucrats on private school vouchers up to $10,000 for any family that wants to send their kid to private school.

He would get 40% of the black and Hispanic vote and win in a landslide.

Posted by: Czech Chick at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (J9wxX)

237 A modest proposal: President Pence (2025-2033) has Donald Trump retained as a "President Emeritus", and that such a Cabinet position be created.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (ujg0T)

Just hire Trump Management Services as a contractor to manage all the bureaus.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (eoQWY)

238 Local and state governments can't be encouraged enough to stop cooperating with the FBI. You know, like how Blue cities and states treat ICE. Of course, that would be soooo different, but it's time to stop indulging fantasies the FBI is anything other than a secret political police force. If your state or city works with the FBI, they are tainted, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (iw59Q)

239 Ok, then....and the official recommendation.... the FBI should do better.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (r+sAi)

Guys, you need to try a little harder in the future, but since you all recognize that mistakes were made, let's let bygones be bygones!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (BiNEL)

240 So you think Trump will have these crooks all out of the system before he's gone? That everything will be ok in 5 years?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:35 PM (K3zSe)

All the crooks out of the system, even in 5 years? Nope. I do think that the Jimmy Breslin theory of justice will operate that goes like this: when the criminals figure out that real punishment is at hand there will be a race to the U.S. Attorney's office to see who can make the best deal.

Of course that's how it worked in the 1960's when he appeared on the Mike Douglas Show in the afternoons before the local news.

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (glGDV)

241 And speaking of Hillary: she had not been charged with a crime therefore jeopardy has not attached.

What prevents the Attorney General from charging her now?
Posted by: 80's music fan

Honestly? Statute of limitations. We are 8 years past her time as SoS. SoL is 5 years from when the crime was discovered. The SoL has already expired or will within two years.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (fXB+v)

242 230 217 Was there a controversial Peloton commercial?

I keep missing the outrage du jour
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM
.....
Yes. It shows a dude buying one for his wife as a Christmas present.

Then she enjoys working out on it.

So you can see the reason everyone is pissed about it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (6VvF+)

It IS telling how the Commiecrats had a shitfit about that. However, I DO suspect that if in the commercial a lesbian had bought it for her partner, then the Demunists would be falling all over themselves for praise it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (ujg0T)

243 I heard that, but what exactly are they mad about?

....

If you can't see it, well, I just can't even....

OMG!

Okay boomer!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (6VvF+)

244 86 Wray is pissed!

[snip]

Posted by: MAGA at December 09, 2019 06:13 PM (E+oV2)

_______

Gaslighting from the Director of the Federal Bureau of Matter is the best gaslighting.

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (WqPYg)

245 230 217 Was there a controversial Peloton commercial?

I keep missing the outrage du jour
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:36 PM

....

Yes. It shows a dude buying one for his wife as a Christmas present.

Then she enjoys working out on it.

So you can see the reason everyone is pissed about it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (6VvF+)

The aftermath. She loses two stone, cuts her her stylishly, hits the tanning salon, does some augmentations, and moves in with a DC lobbyist. Peleton.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (90T4r)

246 *%&^^$&*(&^*((*&%^%!!!

And that's all I have to say about that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (vVOK2)

247 And James Comey sounded like he was going to throw Hillary in jail right up until he let her skate.
Posted by: jsg
----

I listened to Comey's presser, waiting for him to announce the appointment of a prosecutor, and then...and then..."No intent."

I was astounded. It was a 'Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain' moment. 'Just ignore everything I just said'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (PlZlj)

248
Wow!

These Wray and Horowitz fellows shur knows how to do some damned fine whitewashing!

Posted by: Huck Finn at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (sy5kK)

249 Even if Trump wins again, does anybody here STILL think we can vote our way out of this?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:27 PM (K3zSe)

Unless Trump declares martial law and arrests the entire Democrat congress? Then no.

And do not think I am being hyperbolic. I am utterly serious.

Someday a future St Augustine will write a City of God using these days as the end of the United States as the saint used 476 as the end of the Roman Empire.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 09, 2019 06:41 PM (Ki5SV)

250 Nadler closing now. he's a big fat lying twat.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 09, 2019 06:42 PM (YG34V)

251 0 Nadler closing now. he's a big fat lying twat.

He still awake?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:42 PM (6XlcD)

252 It IS telling how the Commiecrats had a shitfit about that. However, I DO suspect that if in the commercial a lesbian had bought it for her partner, then the Demunists would be falling all over themselves for praise it.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (ujg0T)

Well, the celebration of traditional decency is so de rigeur.

Perversion is all the rage, doncha know.

/spits.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (vVOK2)

253 I think it was great that some guy interrupted Fatso Nadler during the kangaroo court and screamed that he was treasonous. More, please.

Posted by: vivi at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (11H2y)

254 "It will be up to Barr and Durham to prove the criminal intent and methods."

_________________

My head is soaked in kerosene, and I got a box of matches right here.

But I'll wait until those two fail to act before lightin' up.

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (AIG0e)

255 Second look at secession?
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (AIG0e)

As an alternative...let's invade Canada !

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (zr5Kq)

256 250 Nadler closing now. he's a big fat lying twat.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 09, 2019 06:42 PM (YG34V)

That's not nice to say about twats.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (vVOK2)

257 208. The Supreme Court is acting strangely these days. Refusing to hear a case that a lower court agreed with a pro life group that requiring abortion providers to offer ultrasounds and information on the stage of fetus development and offer to provide audio of baby heartbeat does not compel speech therefore allows lower court ruling to stand and then the notorious RBG personally staying a lower court order to have Trump financial records given to Congress is shocking.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (SjFj+)

258 What today's report did do was essentially confirm every statement uttered by Nunes, Jordan, and every other Republican and constitutionalist sounding the alarm on matters concerning The Greatest Hoax committed in American History. Horowitz put his spin out there with at least one hand tied behind his back.

Posted by: mrp

What it did do was provide cover for anyone possibly named as a criminal in the future.

"Your honor, my client is innocent. Even the government's IG said no crimes were committed".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (fXB+v)

259 A modest proposal: President Pence (2025-2033) has Donald Trump retained as a "President Emeritus", and that such a Cabinet position be created.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (ujg0T)

Dear Sir, I would bet money that you would be thrown out of graduate school if you said that out loud in class.

Go, Horde!

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (glGDV)

260 249. I agree. we''re not voting our way out of this.

Posted by: vivi at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (11H2y)

261 253
I think it was great that some guy interrupted Fatso Nadler during the
kangaroo court and screamed that he was treasonous. More, please.

Posted by: vivi at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (11H2y)

Except is was an Infowars loon.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (TLxpZ)

262 "Your honor, my client is innocent. Even the government's IG said no crimes were committed".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (fXB+v)

"Bailiff, whack his peepee."

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 09, 2019 06:44 PM (vVOK2)

263 261 253
I think it was great that some guy interrupted Fatso Nadler during the
kangaroo court and screamed that he was treasonous. More, please.

Posted by: vivi at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (11H2y)

Except is was an Infowars loon.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (TLxpZ)

Oh well, useful anyway.

Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:44 PM (90T4r)

264 That's not nice to say about twats.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (vVOK2)

Maybe he misspelled "rectum."

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:45 PM (glGDV)

265 Except is was an Infowars loon.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (TLxpZ)

Infowars has a few good people, that British guy Paul Joseph Watson comes to mind.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:45 PM (ujg0T)

266 208 SCOTUS refuses challenge to KY abortion law trying to claim showing ultrasound images violates a doctor's free speech rights. Lolgf and bake that cake bigots.

I guess they will have to appeal to the Hawaiian judge, then.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 09, 2019 06:45 PM (dNzKv)

267 Sounds like the IG report was exactly like Comey's on Hillary, name the things that were wrong doing but say no one did these on purpose so it's all good.

Posted by: Skip at December 09, 2019 06:39 PM (ZCEU2)

I'm thinking the new standard of "no intent=no crime" should work well when I rob the bank and didn't really intend to take the money and run!

The Smugglers Blues theorem:
"I knew the gun was loaded
but I didn't think he'd kill!"

So there was clearly NO intent, case closed!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:45 PM (BiNEL)

268 I wonder how many " retiring" Republicans come back to DC as Deep State, or Big Corporation lobbyists. Or working for some convoluted, murkily funded NGO? DC is a fertile overflowing trough.
Posted by: tubal at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (90T4r)

Pretty much all of them

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:45 PM (ZfRYq)

269 We are certainly better off with Trump, but if he wins next time around I hope he smashes everything. Otherwise I will be disappointed, but just a little.

Posted by: freakdd at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (Tnijr)

270 A modest proposal: President Pence (2025-2033) has Donald Trump retained as a "President Emeritus", and that such a Cabinet position be created.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (ujg0T)

Dear Sir, I would bet money that you would be thrown out of graduate school if you said that out loud in class.

Go, Horde!
Posted by: 80's music fan

Office of President Emeritus

I'll allow it.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (fXB+v)

271
Seriously.

Keeping your head down until you retire is not a virtue.

Fuck all those people at the FBI who don't like to make waves.

Posted by: RKae at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (4yrpr)

exactly.

Every FBI agent took an oath, and was given a gun and a badge to uphold the law.

Even if their bosses are the crooks.

So every FBI agent that has ignored the corruption, you ARE the corruption.

YOU. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, ASSWIPE!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (sy5kK)

272 101
If and possibly there is no Justice in the system any longer then the questions answers it self, doesn't it.

I asked awhile back What Would you do if you believe that there is
no rule of law. I have answered that question for myself and will or
die by that decision.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 09, 2019 06:15 PM (Nv4st)

______

When I get to the point of deciding that crime DOES pay (and have nothing left to lose), I will be targeting only a small demographic. You might call them the collective enemy of the people ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (WqPYg)

273 Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (SjFj+)

Yeh, what's up with this ?

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (myjNJ)

274 I'd say the impeachment hearings have been a smashing success.

Everyone on both sides of the aisle got their impassioned, outraged video snippet for their newsletters during campaign season.

There is a good reason I should never be elected to the House.

"The Chair recognizes the gentlemen from Tennessee, Mr. Clinger"

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Y'all are all f*cking retarded. I yield my remaining time Mr. Chairman."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (6VvF+)

275

Want to go insane?

1 hour of Carol of the Bells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPapkbIU7jo

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (q+RdX)

276 You know, I don't blame JackStraw for not coming around right now.

I mean, we're being forced to eat a shit sandwich because anyone who works for the federal bureaucracy is a saint second only to Jesus Himself.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (vPKfA)

277 Please explain to me once again why Comey and everyone in DOJ associated with the Clinton mailserver investigation were not herded off to Guantanamo at gunpoint in Trump's first day in office?

Posted by: JEM at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (8erNz)

278 I think it was great that some guy interrupted Fatso Nadler during the kangaroo court and screamed that he was treasonous. More, please.
Posted by: vivi at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (11H2y)

Yup.....I want every loon and crank to come out of the wood work and give these commies a taste of their own ass.

Our corrupt guvmint at work.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (Z+IKu)

279 Except is was an Infowars loon.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

Based on results, I'm willing to let this one pass.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (LOq4H)

280 234 the commercial continues with the wife recording selfies of exercising and telling the husband how she is doing. Feminazis scream she is obviously abused by husband about her weight and appears terrified of him.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (SjFj+)

281 Regarding the fire on down the line.

Comey was fired, McCabe was acting....

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:48 PM (ZfRYq)

282 The DS will keep stacking BS until it topples

Posted by: REDACTED at December 09, 2019 06:49 PM (rpxSz)

283 the commercial continues with the wife recording selfies of exercising and telling the husband how she is doing. Feminazis scream she is obviously abused by husband about her weight and appears terrified of him.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (SjFj+)

That is their complaint. Lol.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:49 PM (85Gof)

284 I'm encouraged by the vindication today of our humble public servants set against an agenda of hate.

Posted by: Peter Strzok at December 09, 2019 06:49 PM (/lXod)

285 I could use some Therapy Tits.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (CjeDS)

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I believe health care providers are mandated to provide that service now to all federal employees and those in prison (which should, but unfortunately doesn't, include a significant portion of the former).

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:49 PM (WqPYg)

286 "Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Y'all are all f*cking retarded. I yield my remaining time Mr. Chairman."

LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (6XlcD)

287 You know, I don't blame JackStraw for not coming around right now.

==

it's not like people have lives or anything, or better things to do , amirite ??

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (zr5Kq)

288 Then hammer Huma and Anthony for packing it around for so long and see what new dirt on Hillary they have that comes up in "negotiations" with the U.S. Attorney that has not yet come to light?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Honestly? Statute of limitations. We are 8 years past her time as SoS. SoL is 5 years from when the crime was discovered. The SoL has already expired or will within two years.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (fXB+v)

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (glGDV)

289 The Peleton thing. Note the like/dislike ratio and the fact that the comments are turned off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShKu2icEYw

Posted by: Vanya at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (U7voe)

290
This morning, Bloomberg Fake News told me that Rudy Guilliani going to Ukraine this week is MORE EVIDENCE of his and the president's guilt.

And, just now, on CBS Fake News, a fake reporter snarked about how wacky it is for Guilliani to do this.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (q+RdX)

291 The DS will keep stacking BS until it topples

So... never? IMHO, the Deep State is 110% bulletproof.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (bFkYZ)

292 Ben Had, huh?

First, it's ridiculous to believe that Wray was in any way especially "confirmable" vs. any number of other names.

Also, and more important, the idea that the onus for leaving a key national spot unfilled when reasonable nominees are offered will fall on the president is dangerously wrong.

DHS a current example. Trump was told the few qualified available people who totally share his [and a super-majority of the public's] very sensible immigration policy views are DOA in the Senate.

Like key parts of his immigration policy, Trump refuses to "politicize" the issue, including esp. with the GOP - he just rolls over. Kobach, Cuccinelli - oops, can't put people in charge of a key agency who actually are on the same page.

So no, no reason to settle. Unfortunately Trump is at the mercy of Beltway types when it comes to many appointments, probably unavoidable. But the "empty post" argument absolutely needs to be inverted, years ago, and the Trumpentwatters sizzling with agitation against Senator X or Senator Y for blocking a key appointment.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (El6T/)

293 Nood, but not as much fun as this!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:51 PM (BiNEL)

294
"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Y'all are all f*cking retarded. I yield my remaining time Mr. Chairman."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Ah. In the vein of:

“You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas.” -- Davy Crockett

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 09, 2019 06:51 PM (ELw0j)

295 224 John Solomon read the report and says these FISA had 51 violations and 9 false statements.

Ok, then....and the official recommendation.... the FBI should do better.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:37 PM (r+sAi)

Couple of training seminars and they'll be right as rain.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 09, 2019 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

296 Yes. It shows a dude buying one for his wife as a Christmas present.

Then she enjoys working out on it.

So you can see the reason everyone is pissed about it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (6VvF+)

I heard that, but what exactly are they mad about?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (85Gof)

That a woman is happy with her man.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:51 PM (K3zSe)

297 "Your honor, my client is innocent. Even the government's IG said no crimes were committed".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (fXB+v)

Strange, I didn't know the Inspector General was either a Judge, OR a Jury.

Next you'll be telling me that he couldn't find anything wrong in the Epstein suicide case.

Posted by: Don Q at December 09, 2019 06:52 PM (NgKpN)

298 266 208 SCOTUS refuses challenge to KY abortion law trying to claim showing ultrasound images violates a doctor's free speech rights. Lolgf and bake that cake bigots.

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The Federal government has an entire agency telling doctors what to do.

Posted by: MAGA at December 09, 2019 06:52 PM (E+oV2)

299 "IMHO, the Deep State is 110% bulletproof."

Sadly, I've stopped expecting proof to the contrary.

Posted by: Utility muffin at December 09, 2019 06:52 PM (ldmQR)

300 109
How is the Horde? Crushed, devastated, sickened?

I think
everybody is fine. Its just the confirmation that everything is bad as
you thought it was leads to frustration. People can and are getting away
scot free with an attempted coup. That small tinge of hope that there
will be justice evaporated into the nethers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 09, 2019 06:17 PM (r+sAi)

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I'm also tired of those here complaining about our collective complaining.

Look, if you can't vent justified anger through speech such as in a place like this, you'll eventually explode and take it out on people in your life -- like loved ones, co-workers, etc.

Obviously, the former is a healthier place than the latter.

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:52 PM (WqPYg)

301 I thought the screaming leftwing protesters who repeatedly disrupted the Kavanaugh hearing did Kavanaugh a tremendous favor.

It's for that reason ONLY that I prefer to see no screaming interruptions of Nadler.

I'm no Boy Scout, but I just think it's counterproductive.

Posted by: mnw at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (Cssks)

302
What it did do was provide cover for anyone possibly named as a criminal in the future.

"Your honor, my client is innocent. Even the government's IG said no crimes were committed".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (fXB+v)

=======================
That was my initial concern, too. But the response to that is rock-solid. Nunes, Jordan, et al have been dismissed for months as cranks and conspiricists. No more. The Hoax has been uncovered and confirmed. Horowitz was not charged with conducting a criminal investigation, but to determine WHAT happened, not WHY did it happen. The answer to WHY did this happen is part of Durham's job.

Posted by: mrp at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (Pqytn)

303 I could use some Therapy Tits.

Posted by: garrett at December 09, 2019 06:16 PM (CjeDS)

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I believe health care providers are mandated to provide that service now to all federal employees and those in prison (which should, but unfortunately doesn't, include a significant portion of the former).
Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:49 PM (WqPYg)

fine... NSFW :

https://tinyurl.com/n2b6kw8

Posted by: runner at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (zr5Kq)

304 The Peloton Ad is just a trigger that leads people to stand up and identify as mentally deranged.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (hbTkw)

305 289 The Peleton thing. Note the like/dislike ratio and the fact that the comments are turned off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShKu2icEYw
Posted by: Vanya at December 09, 2019 06:50 PM (U7voe)

A healthy fit wife is a terrorist's hostage.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (2Qk5a)

306 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Y'all are all f*cking retarded. I yield my remaining time Mr. Chairman."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 09, 2019 06:46 PM (6VvF+)

***

I'm thinking you're ready for the Senate!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (axyOa)

307 A modest proposal: President Pence (2025-2033) has Donald Trump retained as a "President Emeritus", and that such a Cabinet position be created.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (ujg0T)

Ya know, I really like VP Pence. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. I would worry, though; is he too nice to be President?

Posted by: Emmie at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (87gB3)

308 283 the commercial continues with the wife recording selfies of exercising and telling the husband how she is doing. Feminazis scream she is obviously abused by husband about her weight and appears terrified of him.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 09, 2019 06:47 PM (SjFj+)

That is their complaint. Lol.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:49 PM (85Gof)

actually, they hated it because the wife was hot and skinny already. working out every day just caused the hate to burn more intensely.

oh, and the husband and wife got along, and smile at each other.

can't have that in today's Lefty america.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (sy5kK)

309
I heard that, but what exactly are they mad about?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 09, 2019 06:40 PM (85Gof)

That a woman is happy with her man.

They *despise* normalcy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:54 PM (hbTkw)

310
Nood.

Holes in the hull of the USS Joey Choo-Choo.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 09, 2019 06:54 PM (pNxlR)

311 So the wife in the commercial wanted a Peleton, asked and received. Oh no! bastard! I mean I can see if she was 3 bills watching TV all day and Hubby says, ta daaaa! Look what I got for you fattie! Hop on it and mix in a salad once and a while. I am so tired of the virtue cops. BTW I think Peleton's are a waste of money. marketing genius but it's a fucking bike with a TV that you paid thousands for. Never seen one of those!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 09, 2019 06:54 PM (r7Fvf)

312 A Peleton for the wife is like Homer buying Marge a bowling ball, engraved HOMER

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 09, 2019 06:55 PM (7TYNz)

313 It's so stupid I actually wonder if Peloton engineered the whole controversy to make their ad and products go viral.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 09, 2019 06:55 PM (hbTkw)

314 Hereby proposing a new name for the U.S. and the all powerful global state for which it stands:

Administratia.

All opposed say nay and feel free to explain why.

Posted by: Utility muffin at December 09, 2019 06:55 PM (ldmQR)

315 307 A modest proposal: President Pence (2025-2033) has Donald Trump retained as a "President Emeritus", and that such a Cabinet position be created.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:38 PM (ujg0T)

Ya know, I really like VP Pence. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. I would worry, though; is he too nice to be President?
Posted by: Emmie at December 09, 2019 06:53 PM (87gB3)

Exactly. President Emeritus will be the "Bully Pulpit" guy, the Fighting Back Against The Slanted Media guy, the Twitter guy. While President Pence can spend time formulating better policy.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2019 06:56 PM (ujg0T)

316 I get this weird picture in my head of a room full of retards fondling each others balls.

Posted by: wth at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (v0R5T)

Its gone beyond fondling.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 09, 2019 06:56 PM (VqhL9)

317 Without withholding, no one would have the tax money.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:19 PM (fXB+v)

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If only the federal government could print trillions as needed ... [just being a jackass, as I know you know this]

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:56 PM (WqPYg)

318 That a woman is happy with her man.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at December 09, 2019 06:51 PM (K3zSe)

Worse than that, a fit toned woman is pleased that her husband has given her a new and convenient way to remain fit and toned!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 09, 2019 06:56 PM (BiNEL)

319 I continue to digest the OIG Report, and what's striking is how similar it is to the Clinton OIG report, AND how similar both of them are to Comey's original investigation in Clinton.

That is, the players involved lied, failed to follow procedures, broke rules, engaged in abnormal behaviors and processes that resulted in benefit to only Democrats and those in their orbit, misled investigators (and in FISA scenario, the Courts), etc., etc.. AND, therefore there is nothing to see here, and to the extent decisions and outcomes appear unjustified, that's not true because Prosecutorial Discretion.

So, to all the Feds monitoring this site, let me break this down for you:

(1) Everything that was done to Trump and those in hir orbit was not only NOT wrong, but are to be encouraged and repeated.

(2) Future Presidents are highly encouraged to fire existing Dept. heads and to replace them with wild, hard-core partisans. These elected officials should hand-pick career baureocrats for all politically motivated uses of the Fed's awesome surveillance powers against political opponents. And, those gambits should all be rolled up to be managed by the political appointees.

(3) But don't worry, even if you don't follow the rules or even break the law, as long as there is discretionary consensus among the political appointees, everything is fine and there will be no prosecutions, reprimands or other negative consequences whatsoever. In fact, you are highly likely to receive extra private sector compensation through GoFundME, CNN gigs and the like.

In summation, the lesson from 2016 is that there is no lesson. Nothing wrong, and nothing to see here. Please proceed with all due haste to lie, break the law and break the rules for the benefit of the Democrat party.

How far can you stretch the law and the rules? Great question. We've been asking it for years. The answer as of today is, "more than previously tried." Let THAT sink in a minute.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at December 09, 2019 06:57 PM (DRgs8)

320

Proceed to nood

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 09, 2019 06:57 PM (q+RdX)

321 134 I am sorry but anyone arguing that this report helps our side is just wrong.

[snip]

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 06:20 PM (ZfRYq)

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Agreed. Hannity spent his entire radio show today spinning so hard about how great this report was that I suspect he drilled through to China. It was sickening ... I only kept listening because I was hoping one of his guests would blast him with the consensus opinion of the horde.

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 06:59 PM (WqPYg)

322 Just as women dress for other women, they work out to look better than other women. And THAT has to piss some fatties off.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 09, 2019 06:59 PM (LOq4H)

323 Your honor, my client is innocent. Even the government's IG said no crimes were committed".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 06:43 PM (fXB+v)

Strange, I didn't know the Inspector General was either a Judge, OR a Jury.

Next you'll be telling me that he couldn't find anything wrong in the Epstein suicide case.
Posted by: Don Q

No. But that's exactly what Comey or Strozk or Page or Ohr or anyone else will use if they are ever brought into any court for the coup attempt.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 07:00 PM (fXB+v)

324 147
TBF, I'd even appreciate some willing As.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 09, 2019 06:22 PM (1CjJc)

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LOL. * fistbump *

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 07:01 PM (WqPYg)

325 No. But that's exactly what Comey or Strozk or Page
or Ohr or anyone else will use if they are ever brought into any court
for the coup attempt.

Posted by: rickb223

Will??!! I give it two days before everyone of those F's is screaming, SEE! SEE! I'm INNOCENT!!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 09, 2019 07:02 PM (LOq4H)

326 170. and his bumper music is surprisingly good. (Levin)

Posted by: kallisto at December 09, 2019 07:02 PM (GaIDK)

327 Has anybody called Wray an asswipe yet? ;-)

Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 07:09 PM (WqPYg)

328 No. But that's exactly what Comey or Strozk or Page
or Ohr or anyone else will use if they are ever brought into any court
for the coup attempt.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 09, 2019 07:00 PM (fXB+v)

==============================
Oh, I'm sure they'll do that. Why not? But then they'll have to sign on to the rest of the report, too. The many, many catalogued irregular actions signed off at several levels of authority, all the way up to Rod Rosenstein. That's in the report, too. What ties all of those "irregularities" together? I'd venture that nothing Horowitz has investigated in the past has equaled, much less surpassed, the coordination of so many senior level DOJ-FBI employees for a single objective, while those employees were armed with the most spurious of evidence. Durham now has a big, fat target.

Posted by: mrp at December 09, 2019 07:16 PM (Pqytn)

329 325 No. But that's exactly what Comey or Strozk or Page
or Ohr or anyone else will use if they are ever brought into any court
for the coup attempt.

Posted by: rickb223

Will??!! I give it two days before everyone of those F's is screaming, SEE! SEE! I'm INNOCENT!!
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 09, 2019 07:02 PM (LOq4H)

They already have.

Posted by: Marybeth at December 09, 2019 07:16 PM (4pK1/)

330 Couple of training seminars and they'll be right as rain.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 09, 2019 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe snarking - but Wray committed to semi annual training for those involved in the FISA process in his letter in response to the IG report.

Posted by: blaster at December 09, 2019 07:24 PM (ZfRYq)

331 Has anybody called Wray an asswipe yet? ;-)
Posted by: ShainS at December 09, 2019 07:09 PM (WqPYg)

I've called him worse

Posted by: Ventura Highway at December 09, 2019 07:31 PM (M+Lyo)

332 There is no such thing as bias !

Posted by: The biased as fuck FBI at December 09, 2019 07:32 PM (M+Lyo)

333 Without subpoena power for the IG report investigators you ain't got sh*t.

Posted by: Alaska Paul at December 09, 2019 08:01 PM (h8qD9)

334 Grant, via executive order, secret clearance.
Then, establish a SCIF, force testimony in front of a grand jury, and redact all classified facts before any sort of release.

Posted by: Gunslinger at December 09, 2019 10:28 PM (0EC+8)

335 Not even James Comey thinks James Comey should have a security clearance.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 09, 2019 10:38 PM (Ndje9)

336 The FBI corrupted stooges in their ranks/upper echelon have contracted the clintons incurable conscience/memory diseases that bill and hill have demonstrated in endless testimonies over many decades in office.
Cannot modern cures deal with such devastating such vicious afflictions ?

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Fusion Co-Founders Glenn Simpson and Jonathan Winer Refused to Talk to IG;
James Comey and Former FBI Attorney James Baker Also Avoided Fully Testifying