Washington Post Stealth-Censors a Report on the FBI Lawyer Probed for Altering and Official Document, Removing Report That She Worked "Beneath Peter Strzok" Without Noting the Deletion or Explaining the Reason for It

I have my own correction to make -- I reported an FBI agent was accused of altering a document, when it was actually an FBI lawyer. I don't know if this was my mistake or if that mistake was in the CNN original story.

Update: Apparently the error started with CNN and the leftwing propaganda houses -- Katie Pavlich noted that the Washington Post also reported it was an "FBI agent" who made the alteration, and in fact reported it was Peter Strzok.

However, I did make a mistake in assuming this must be about the altered 302 interview records; Horowitz is investigating FISA abuses, not the Flynn matter, so this alteration would seem likely to be of some document used to procure -- illicitly -- a FISA warrant.

Now the Conservative Tree House seems to catch the Washington Post cleaning up for a key ally.

The original WaPo article by Devlin Barrett noted the FBI official was actually a "line-level" lawyer who worked "under FBI Agent Peter Strzok."

At 12:15am, the WaPo article was significantly edited, two more journalists (Ellen Nakashima and Matt Zapotosky) were added to the byline. Unfortunately, no explanation or notation of the changes were given.

They deleted the connection to Strzok -- I'm sure Strzok is grateful to them -- and then also added that this lawyer is just a "low-level" lawyer.

Kind of like those low-level IRS operatives in the Cincinnati office, right?

Conservative Treehouse then deduces who this "low-level" lawyer is. And it's someone who of course worked on the "MYE" -- Mid-Year Review, the euphemistic code-name for the fake investigation into Hillary Clinton's genuine withholding-documents conspiracy.

Paul Sperry seems to have concluded the same thing, that the "low-level" line lawyer being investigated is Kevin Clinesmith, who was previously called "Lawyer #2" in Horowitz's previous report.

REWIND: "FBI Attorney 2" Kevin Clinesmith was among 5 FBI agents DOJ IG Horowitz referred for investigation for sending pro-Clinton, anti-Trump political messages over FBI phones and computers. Clinesmith worked C.I. cases under Strzok, including Crossfire Hurricane/Carter Page

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:47 PM




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1 Strzok...

Posted by: Allie at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (sm6Pk)

2 not Strzok...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (q80AH)

3 The Ham and Eggers must be incensed.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (FTIa8)

4 They deleted the connection to Strzok -- I'm sure Strzok is grateful to them -- and then also added that this lawyer is just a "low-level" lawyer.


If low-level lawyers do this on their own and get away with it, then the rot is even deeper than we suspected and the whole tree needs t come down.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (oVJmc)

5 Actually, the lawyer is a "he."

Posted by: Orson at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (yVBTR)

6 Rogue lawyer, not working for anybody.

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (dzJ3R)

7 Does "Strzok" mean "first" now??

Posted by: jayhawkone at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (ZD+J8)

8 Thunder-Strzok!

Posted by: StefanH at November 22, 2019 01:50 PM (Rs1lL)

9 Din't we hear a while back that Lisa Page admitted to changing a 302?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 22, 2019 01:50 PM (oVJmc)

10 7 Does "Strzok" mean "first" now??
Posted by: jayhawkone at November 22, 2019 01:49 PM (ZD+J

========

Needs an ellipsis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 01:50 PM (q80AH)

11 "working" under Strzok
strange, he seems more of a bottom

Posted by: vmom happy to have college kid home at November 22, 2019 01:50 PM (G546f)

12 >>Actually, the lawyer is a "he."

Maybe.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)

13 $5 on 'the Cincinnati office'

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 22, 2019 01:51 PM (YslsA)

14 Rank and file.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (JRaU+)

15 Mmmmm...fresh thread! Smells like warm pie from the oven on a cold fall day.

Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (q177U)

16 The stealth edit seems to be the new norm, huh?

How many old stories are they retroactively editing (or deleting) as the narrative changes, one wonders. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (bDqIh)

17
WAPO my Stroz..........nice cum face dude.

Posted by: saf at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (5IHGB)

18 The media is public enemy #1.

Posted by: Tentotwo at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (yhf6w)

19 You will forget.

Posted by: The Memory Hole at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (88+cf)

20 Fire the lot of the FBI and make them all pass new background checks, any that fail get barred from ever serving in any law enforcement or governmental capacity again.
Big question now is how to conduct the background checks with ALL the FBI fired?

Posted by: pissed off patriot at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (JNTt1)

21 Kind of like those low-level IRS operatives in the Cincinnati office, right?

Just another harmless, faceless bureaucrat toiling tirelessly on our behalf.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (DqSMl)

22 so, how long until strzok is found dead of suicide?

I heard that Hillary is already issuing condolences for the impending event...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (8D42x)

23 They recovered from their Strzok.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (aKsyK)

24 She Worked Beneath Peter Strzok

--

Like Page?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (YslsA)

25 The age of "corrections" in media is over.

Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (q177U)

26 This "low level" lawyer will probably commit suicide. It's the DC way.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (prSvo)

27 Actually, the lawyer is a "he."


Is that how xer identifies...today?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (oVJmc)

28 Wait I thought it was the ICIG.

Or is errbody faking documents now?

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (BEjc7)

29 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

30 "They deleted the connection to Strzok -- I'm sure Strzok is grateful to them -- and then also added that this lawyer is just a "low-level" lawyer."

(1) That's a mean thing to say about Lisa Page - that she is a "low level lawyer" and
(2) Denying this doesn't make it go away. At all.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (hLRSq)

31 Fact Fluid is a thing.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (BPHer)

32 Is there any difference, at this point, from the major media print houses and tabloids?

I think not. They're all full of bullshit stories that have no basis in fact.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

33 Next thing you'll tell me is that Bureau isn't driving Fords anymore.

Posted by: Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (FTlwv)

34 "Low-level" is a technical term for 'lying whore.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (oVJmc)

35
How many old stories are they retroactively editing (or deleting) as the narrative changes, one wonders. . .
Posted by: Lizzy

Pravda policy manual Ch 2 section IV

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (DqSMl)

36 >>so, how long until strzok is found dead of suicide?



He seems like the type who collects info on everybody he works with as an insurance policy, no? Like a little cockroach, he'll survive armageddon.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (bDqIh)

37 Three Men in Black Said "Don't Report This!"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (aKsyK)

38 Then it wasn't Lisa Page because she was always working on top of Peter Strzok.

Posted by: ShainS at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (LupTM)

39 Ropes, lamp posts, big sticks, deep state pinatas, some assembly required.

Posted by: pissed off patriot at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (JNTt1)

40 The age of "corrections" in media is over.

Posted by: Max Power

--

All of Stalin's editors and photo retouchers are dead, but in the digital world, changing history is so much easier.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (YslsA)

41 I have my own correction to make -- I reported an FBI agent was accused of altering a document, when it was actually an FBI lawyer.



I'm so old, I remember when the only way you were an FBI agent was to be a lawyer or a CPA.

So, it's possible you were correct, regardless.


Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (GjTLE)

42 Mistakes were made
Nobody is more upset than us

There's no reason to question our integrity

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (EmdWv)

43 His head will pull right off, like a tick.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (CLteG)

44 Can one really alter alter a fake document?

Posted by: Pweet Bharaa at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (1g7ch)

45 It's ironic that if you apply to the FBI, you have to answer a question in the initial questionnaire that sates something like, 'Have you ever considered or taken action to overthrow the government of the United States?'

How many currently in the FBI would fail for reapplication based on that alone?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (nNEcr)

46 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge

Song still sucks.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (DqSMl)

47 >>(1) That's a mean thing to say about Lisa Page - that she is a "low level lawyer" and
(2) Denying this doesn't make it go away. At all.

I don't think this is Page. I think it's either Sally Moyer or Kevin Clinesmith.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

48
28 Wait I thought it was the ICIG.

Or is errbody faking documents now?

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (BEjc7)


It seems to be the same cadre of people that are sent around to cause mischief and then to clean up the messes from the mischief. I mean, the best conspiracies do not include everyone in the phone book.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (hLRSq)

49 How many old stories are they retroactively editing (or deleting) as the narrative changes, one wonders. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2019 01:52 PM (bDqIh)


He who controls history...

Gets likes on twitter.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (BPHer)

50 actually Fox caught it first

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (BqBId)

51 >>>I don't know if this was my mistake or if that mistake was in the CNN original story.

I noticed yesterday that CNN's original story first said it was an FBI "official" and later it was switched to lawyer.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (xPl2J)

52 Fire the lot of the FBI and make them all pass new background checks, any that fail get barred from ever serving in any law enforcement or governmental capacity again.

Big question now is how to conduct the background checks with ALL the FBI fired?
Posted by: pissed off patriot


Texas Rangers.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (GjTLE)

53 Time to re-read The Book of Laughter and Forgetting.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (bDqIh)

54 The stealth edit seems to be the new norm, huh?

You have no idea...

Posted by: Amazon.com at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (x/2Z8)

55 actually Fox caught it first
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (BqBId)


Sounds like a round of antibiotics is in order.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (BPHer)

56 47 >>(1) That's a mean thing to say about Lisa Page - that she is a "low level lawyer" and
(2) Denying this doesn't make it go away. At all.

I don't think this is Page. I think it's either Sally Moyer or Kevin Clinesmith.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)


I don't know who it is, I just thought it would sound funnier that way.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (hLRSq)

57 I for one look forward to the myriad of indictments of "reporters" for illegal possession of classified information.

A guy can dream . . .

Posted by: filbert at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (NiXyF)

58 Speaking of corrections, I hear Disney is editing old content for Disney+.

Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (q177U)

59 this is really going to fuck up his social credit score

Posted by: x at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (nFwvY)

60 I mean what is there to say, the brazen, outrageous and wanton corruption and criminality we are seeing at every level of analysis is breathtaking in it's scope and reach.


There ain't no way a FISA report and whatever the hell The Pitbull and Bull Durham come up with is going to correct this.


It's too deep, it's spread too wide, it's both inside and outside government and bureaucracy.


And the President can't do it alone, he would need the legislature and they simply are not going to help him in this fight because a great many on both sides of the UniParty like the system they created, nurtured and suckled.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 22, 2019 01:58 PM (gnCeF)

61 Come on 5 o'clock!

The weekend beckons!

Posted by: Barr at November 22, 2019 01:58 PM (Q5eBq)

62 Big question now is how to conduct the background checks with ALL the FBI fired?

That's easy. Do they float?

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2019 01:58 PM (x/2Z8)

63 Reinterview process for FBI: atc asks about civil forfeiture.

If you live you are hired.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 01:58 PM (BEjc7)

64
Song still sucks.
Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (DqSMl)


BLASPHEME!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:58 PM (Zz0t1)

65 27 Actually, the lawyer is a "he."


Is that how xer identifies...today?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (oVJmc)

________________________________

It's not Page. It's a flunky with close (and I mean close) connections to another lawyer much higher up. He has since resigned...likely not voluntarily. So has the higher up lawyer...and she landed a nice cushy job at Boeing. If you want to know who was cursing up a storm on the night of the election...it was this guy.

Posted by: Orson at November 22, 2019 01:58 PM (yVBTR)

66 Texas Rangers.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (GjTLE)


How is mediocre baseball going to help?

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

67 She Worked Beneath Peter Strzok

--

Like Page?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 22, 2019 01:53 PM (YslsA)

wasn't she a DOJ lawyer?

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 22, 2019 01:59 PM (8D42x)

68 They leftist media is going to look as crazy as a horde of sewer rats trying to spin all the devastating revelations and indictments that are coming.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 22, 2019 01:59 PM (HcHqw)

69 I think it's either Sally Moyer or Kevin Clinesmith.

Formerly Kevin Klein-Johnson.

Posted by: t-bird at November 22, 2019 01:59 PM (x/2Z8)

70 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
5m
Thank you to @senatemajldr Mitch McConnell and @GOPLeader Kevin McCarthy for their Great Leadership! There has never been so much unity and spirit in the Republican Party, as there is right now!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 22, 2019 01:59 PM (BqBId)

71 Whatever. Don't you rubes understand that this is an already debunked conspiracy theory? Russia hacked the election, you neckbeard incels.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 22, 2019 02:00 PM (a38jG)

72 Well as Jack said in the last thread that the ICIG was in on it, then hell get a whole new FBI.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:00 PM (r+sAi)

73 These people, the Democrat Media, are unbelievable. Absolutely no scruples. Absolutely no integrity. And no shame about it either. Their industry must burn to the ground if we are ever to have a chance at a free country.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 22, 2019 02:00 PM (JoUsr)

74 Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 22, 2019 01:57 PM (BPHer)
*********
Hahaha Try The Veal

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (BqBId)

75

Just like Jeff Epstein was a "low level" Democrat donor.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (PUbDc)

76 Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are allowed to materially alter FISA warrant supporting documents without supervision or oversight.

Posted by: Socratease at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (BT83d)

77 Is there any difference, at this point, from the major media print houses and tabloids?

I think not. They're all full of bullshit stories that have no basis in fact.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

tabloids are more honest?

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (8D42x)

78 tabloids are more honest?
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (8D42x)


Good point.....

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (Zz0t1)

79 Well as Jack said in the last thread that the ICIG was in on it, then hell get a whole new FBI.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:00 PM (r+sAi)
*******
Are people beginning to see why this took so long?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 22, 2019 02:02 PM (BqBId)

80 "stealth edits." that was the opening scene in Orwell's 1984. Winston Smith changing chocolate rations or something.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 22, 2019 02:02 PM (E+OcO)

81 Shall we assume that Kevin Clinesmith is sequested with the "Whistleblower" ?

Posted by: SMOD at November 22, 2019 02:02 PM (3aI0K)

82 70. I think the whole "full trial" thing yesterday will just about push this to a censure, rather than an impeachment.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 22, 2019 02:02 PM (JRaU+)

83 Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are allowed to materially alter FISA warrant supporting documents without supervision or oversight.
Posted by: Socratease at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (BT83d)


That is what FISA court judges are for.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 22, 2019 02:02 PM (1g7ch)

84 77 Is there any difference, at this point, from the major media print houses and tabloids?

I think not. They're all full of bullshit stories that have no basis in fact.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

tabloids are more honest?
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (8D42x)

Batboy never lied to us.

Posted by: josephistan at November 22, 2019 02:02 PM (7HtZB)

85 Christopher Wray has already reconciled this bye ordering an additional week of white privilege sensitivity training to take place in Maui for all FBI employees.

Posted by: ShainS at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (LupTM)

86 77 Is there any difference, at this point, from the major media print houses and tabloids?

I think not. They're all full of bullshit stories that have no basis in fact.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

tabloids are more honest?
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (8D42x)
$$$$$$$$$$$
They aspire to attain the moral level of a gutter whore.

Posted by: pissed off patriot at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (JNTt1)

87 The theory that the FISA RR signed is not the one in the press - and RR said it so seems more or less fact not theory - means that it was altered AFTER he signed it?

That would seem like a big deal.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (BEjc7)

88 Sally Moyer reportedly works for Boeing now ... nothing like the corrupt and largely incompetent defense contractors to provide the Deep Staters cushy sinecures.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (hdzef)

89 Again: where in the Hell are the FISA court judges? They don't have to wait for squat to haul an attorney in front of them for perpetuating a fraud upon the court.

My assumption at this point is the FISA court judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the trash in the D.C. "criminal justice system," scare quotes used because of the appearance of the second word in that phrase.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (iw59Q)

90 Take this "low level" lawyer and assure him that no matter what, no matter what lies have to be told or documents forged, he will be convicted and sent to a "pound you in the ass" prison for 30 years.

Then ask him if he'd like to make deal.

We've got to learn how to operate like democrats.

Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (U6f/q)

91 Is this "whistleblower" really just a "SchiffBlower" ?

Posted by: SMOD at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (3aI0K)

92
Uh huh. Just a rogue low-level guy. Nothing to see here. Just some sleepy guards, that night when Epstein killed himself. Nothing to see here.

Blah blah blah.

This is all so predictable that it's become tedious.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (mKr81)

93 Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are allowed to materially alter FISA warrant supporting documents without supervision or oversight.

Posted by: Socratease

--

And the DOJ gets to unilaterally decide who has to obey federal law, and the State Department gets to decide US foreign policy.

And all of the American idiots thought that they got to vote for how the country was run.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (YslsA)

94 That's not a reference to Gummy Whore (aka Lisa Page), is it?

Posted by: thirteen28 at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (GdJ+p)

95 Can't have any Scaping without a Goat!

Posted by: Don Q at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

96 Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are
allowed to materially alter FISA warrant supporting documents without
supervision or oversight.

Posted by: Socratease

===
Only if they're on the Management Development track

Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 22, 2019 02:04 PM (EmdWv)

97 >>The theory that the FISA RR signed is not the one in the press - and RR said it so seems more or less fact not theory - means that it was altered AFTER he signed it?

Or the preceding ones were altered.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:04 PM (ZLI7S)

98 These aren't the rouges you're looking for???

Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2019 02:04 PM (gmo/4)

99 Mark Meadows, in questioning Horowitz last year, said Clinesmith is in the GC's office and not in the CI division. Do not know if he was correct in saying so.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 22, 2019 02:04 PM (NVYyb)

100 Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are allowed to materially alter FISA warrant supporting documents without supervision or oversight.

Posted by: Socratease at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (BT83d)


Oh there was plenty of oversight from the usual cadre that we have seen from the first of the Hillary E-Mail Coverup through the Mueller Investigation's beginnings. The same rotten crew of conspirators.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 02:04 PM (hLRSq)

101 BLASPHEME!!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge

* throws glove at Sponge

Keyboard insults at 20 paces on the ONT. I request chavez the hugo as my second.



He'll probably tell me to GF'd.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:05 PM (DqSMl)

102 So any no knock raids yet?

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 02:05 PM (BEjc7)

103 Whoa! Didja see that? There went another wheel!

Posted by: creeper at November 22, 2019 02:05 PM (fE1wp)

104
Jala, Jala BOOGALOO

Posted by: Ricardo Ray at November 22, 2019 02:06 PM (LilNs)

105
Speaking of corrections, I hear Disney is editing old content for Disney+.
Posted by: Max Power


Grit TV already edited out the word "Injun" from Davy Crockett.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 22, 2019 02:06 PM (aKsyK)

106 3 Weeks off with pay, I'm guessing.

WP: "FBI Low level employee faces stiff penalty."

Posted by: Grand Rapids at November 22, 2019 02:06 PM (Xo3T0)

107 On a side note, I have an Iranian coworker who is worried about family back home. She seems to feel like this time is different, that shit is getting real.

Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2019 02:06 PM (q177U)

108 >>Oh there was plenty of oversight from the usual cadre that we have seen from the first of the Hillary E-Mail Coverup through the Mueller Investigation's beginnings. The same rotten crew of conspirators.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:06 PM (ZLI7S)

109 On and on it goes, and where it stops, nobody knows.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 22, 2019 02:06 PM (H8QX8)

110 Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are allowed to materially alter FISA warrant supporting documents without supervision or oversight.

Posted by: Socratease

Problem is, that by Law, the people who SIGN the Warrant application have to ensure and swear the information is accurate.

So, unless they DID NOT DO THEIR JOB, a low level lawyer would not have been able to do anything.

Now, as they were going after the Campaign people of a Presidential candidate, with HUGE implications for the future, you would think those signing said applications would be even MORE careful than normal.

yet, Rosenstein singed the last application himself, even AFTER it was PUBLIC knowledge that the information the warrant was based on, was bullshit.

Ergo, the system of checks on Federal Power, did not work.

Posted by: Don Q at November 22, 2019 02:07 PM (NgKpN)

111 When major media outlets starts stealth editing out facts because they're inconvenient to their friends in the bureaucracy, you no longer have a free press.

It's Pravda on Franklin Square.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 22, 2019 02:07 PM (H8fSa)

112 McCabes Porsche towed away on a flatbed is my marker.

Right now he still on CNN.

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 02:07 PM (BEjc7)

113
Take this "low level" lawyer up in a helicopter and
Then ask him if he'd like to make deal.


Posted by: AltonJackson at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (IBlr5)

114 1 - Nobody will know the name of the low level lawyer. . . . personnel issues will have the name redacted.


2 - unless this person squeals, Comey, etc can claim the FISA they signed was not altered.



Question for Jack - I seem to remember Rod Rosenstein stating that when he signed/signs FISA warrants, basically saying "hey, the lower level folks do X, Y & Z. I'm practically a formality." Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought he said something to that effect. If so, then how does his statement about this issue (if I read your previous comments correctly) about knowing about this change.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (zVXtJ)

115 >>yet, Rosenstein singed the last application himself, even AFTER it was PUBLIC knowledge that the information the warrant was based on, was bullshit.

sigh.....

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

116 If Jennife* *ubin was really serious ..

Posted by: SMOD at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (3aI0K)

117 Trump exposing the underserved elite status of:

Democrats
Academia
Hollywood
Media
Permanent Bureaucracy
Silicon Valley

Posted by: MJ at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (gAMkn)

118 Here's the Treehouse article.
https://tinyurl.com/ubh5869

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (jjaLl)

119 * throws glove at Sponge

Keyboard insults at 20 paces on the ONT. I request chavez the hugo as my second.



He'll probably tell me to GF'd.
Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:05 PM (DqSMl)


YOU'RE ON.

I select Insomniac, however, this all revolves around my sobriety at the time and whether I'm still alive at the ONT time.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

120 Kevin Klinesmith was pretty good in A Fish Called Wanda.

Posted by: cornbred at November 22, 2019 02:08 PM (tlJDI)

121 I bet Eric Ciarmarella knows the name of this low level lawyer

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 02:09 PM (BEjc7)

122 She Worked Beneath Peter Strzok
---
Well maybe beneath his desk....

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:10 PM (DuZls)

123 Eric Ciarmarella did not blow himself.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:10 PM (DuZls)

124 I think it's either Sally Moyer or Kevin Clinesmith.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

I saw a picture of Sally Moyer recently. She looks like she has the same hair stylist as Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, all the way down to the mayonnaise hair treatment.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 22, 2019 02:10 PM (a38jG)

125 "initial questionnaire that sates something like,
'Have you ever considered or taken action to overthrow the government of
the United States?'
How many currently in the FBI would fail for reapplication based on that alone?" Posted by: What's a Seawolf?

Fail? OR maybe a "willingness to overthrow" is prerequisite at this point?

The rank and file may be mostly good, idk, but not many have resigned in the face of the FBI coordinated coup. And resigning itself is a half measure ... we need patriots that will stand up and fight FOR America, not resign with the fat bennies, as they observe the overthrow happening in their ranks.


Defend and protect their pensions, staying quiet in the midst of treason? That itself is choosing the wrong side.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 22, 2019 02:10 PM (Cus5s)

126 Banana Republic, who want's a banana? Anybody? 2 for double the price!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

127 yet, Rosenstein singed the last application himself, even AFTER it was PUBLIC knowledge that the information the warrant was based on, was bullshit.

Ergo, the system of checks on Federal Power, did not work.
Posted by: Don Q at November 22, 2019 02:07 PM (NgKpN)


I think Trump/Barr have got Rosenstein's nuts securely in a vise right now to make sure he's a good boy--if he behaves, Trump/Barr won't turn the screws of the vise a turn or 20.

Posted by: filbert at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (NiXyF)

128 Strzok is a piece of work but I'm still impressed that he was nailing Page.

8/10 would smash

Posted by: MJ at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (gAMkn)

129 44
Can one really alter alter a fake document?



Posted by: Pweet Bharaa at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (1g7ch)

_______


Heh. Tells you just how absurd this all has become. We have hard documented evidence of a multitude of crimes committed by a multitude of people -- and we're supposed to get excited about an IG report that's taken two years too long ... and applies to less than 1% of the actual entire apparatus of the treasonous opposition candidate spying and then elected POTUS coup attempt.

Posted by: ShainS at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (LupTM)

130 YOU'RE ON.

I select Insomniac, however, this all revolves around my sobriety at the time and whether I'm still alive at the ONT time.
Posted by: Sponge

Hmm lack of sobriety may be an advantage. No 12 ga keyboards allowed.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (DqSMl)

131 Low level. High level.

At what "level" do these assholes get oversight?

Posted by: portlandon at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (+oR7L)

132 Trump - What you're going to see, I predict, will be the biggest scandal in our country's history.

-Breitbart

Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (gmo/4)

133 Let me know when they're constructing the gallows at Fort McNair.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (H8fSa)

134 >>Question for Jack - I seem to remember Rod Rosenstein stating that when he signed/signs FISA warrants, basically saying "hey, the lower level folks do X, Y & Z. I'm practically a formality." Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought he said something to that effect. If so, then how does his statement about this issue (if I read your previous comments correctly) about knowing about this change.

What he said in Jone of 2018 is that he was not the affiant. Because he wasn't.

The affiant is the person who reviews everything associated with the FISA application including the Woods Procedures that affirm every single thing in the application has been verified and confirmed.

That's the person who is fucked.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (ZLI7S)

135 102 So any no knock raids yet?

Posted by: blaster at November 22, 2019 02:05 PM (BEjc7


The no-knock raids were calculated to get the notoriously impetuous and easily riled Trump to Do Something that would permit Mueller to claim Obstruction of Justice so that he would have something to hang an impeachment on. Fortunately Trump seems to have had good counsel and better he listened to them and did nothing that would help an obstruction charge. Worse for them, he cooperated fully with documents, making people available for interviews, etc. and was able to get out cleanly.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (hLRSq)

136 Every day is just another reminder of how truly consequential the election of Donald Trump was.

Posted by: DaveD at November 22, 2019 02:12 PM (P5fqQ)

137 107 On a side note, I have an Iranian coworker who is worried about family
back home. She seems to feel like this time is different, that shit is
getting real.

==========

The mullahs are using snipers against people protesting gasoline prices. I'd say your friend is right, because that sounds pretty damn real.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 22, 2019 02:13 PM (NVYyb)

138 133 Let me know when they're constructing the gallows at Fort McNair.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (H8fSa)


We should pardon anyone left after we run out of lamp posts in Washington.

Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2019 02:13 PM (U6f/q)

139 Can one really alter alter a fake document?






Posted by: Pweet Bharaa at November 22, 2019 01:55 PM (1g7ch)


I know a guy who knows a guy.

B. Hussein O.

Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2019 02:13 PM (gmo/4)

140 Nuke DOJ from orbit. Just to be sure.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (xmKbk)

141 I think this more press-style confusion. Page was a Government Attorney working for the DOJ. Lord Demon Strzok was an FBI agent a subset of the DOJ.

She worked in tandem with him, I doubt she was beneath him because that's not how organizations work.

Maybe she worked "under his direction", but as she was the expert on the law, it still wasn't "beneath", she would do the legal work and Strzok would do the framing and skullduggery.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (DuZls)

142 sigh.....

Well affiant is a 6 dollar word I'd never heard of before either.

Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (FhXTo)

143
Hmm lack of sobriety may be an advantage. No 12 ga keyboards allowed.
Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (DqSMl)


Good point.

And Insom may tell me to pound sand as well, so this could be a 1v1 deal regardless.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

144 125:

"
The rank and file may be mostly good, idk, but not many have resigned in the face of the FBI coordinated coup. And resigning itself is a half measure ... we need patriots that will stand up and fight FOR America, not resign with the fat bennies, as they observe the overthrow happening in their ranks."

Remember when it emerged that FBI field agents provided information or "confirmation" to the propaganda organs in exchange for sporting tickets?

You know how many FBI agents reported that, well, quid pro quo?

ZERO.

My assumption is anyone who works for the Bureau is corrupt at some level. As a federal juror, any defendant walks if all the evidence comes from federal agencies or agents.

Burn. It. Down.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (iw59Q)

145 Just an observation: That 17th-letter-of-the-alphabet-labeled LARP first mentioned "Kevin Clinesmith" on August 3, 2018.

Posted by: filbert at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (NiXyF)

146 Let me know when they're constructing the gallows at Fort McNair.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (H8fSa)


We should pardon anyone left after we run out of lamp posts in Washington.
Posted by: jwest


F that. Lot of trees in national parks that'll support a rope.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (G0qhR)

147 Strzok is a CI specialist. Page was an easy mark for him.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (H8fSa)

148 Just an observation: That 17th-letter-of-the-alphabet-labeled LARP first mentioned "Kevin Clinesmith" on August 3, 2018.
Posted by: filbert at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (NiXyF)
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Thank Q

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (DuZls)

149 >>Well affiant is a 6 dollar word I'd never heard of before either.

An affiant is a person who swears to an affidavit.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (ZLI7S)

150 I am suspicious of all leaks. It was leaked for a reason, after all. What is the narrative they are trying to create?

Posted by: Tommy V at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (GCivW)

151 If the FBI were to be dismantled, it's buildings razed, its guilty imprisoned that would be a step forward towards making America great again.

Imagine an outfit with it's HQ the J. Edgar Hoover Building...a continuing criminal enterprise dedicated to spying on Americans since its inception.

Posted by: torabora at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (NgGt4)

152 no sock i would never.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (KP5rU)

153 Texas Rangers.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 01:56 PM (GjTLE)

Can't trust those American Leaguers. Invented the DH.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (FTPn0)

154 "141
She worked in tandem with him, I doubt she was beneath him because that's not how organizations work.

Maybe she worked "under his direction", but as she was the expert on the law, it still wasn't "beneath", she would do the legal work and Strzok would do the framing and skullduggery. "

"Under." "Beneath." Heh.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (iw59Q)

155 Where does Democracy die again? I forget...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI38)

156 The mullahs are using snipers against people protesting gasoline prices.

Posted by: Huck Follywood


That sounds legal.


/s

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (G0qhR)

157 #149 It's law school speak.

Posted by: torabora at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (NgGt4)

158 That's the person who is fucked.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (ZLI7S)



cant wait.

Posted by: LASue at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (Ed8Zd)

159 >>I am suspicious of all leaks. It was leaked for a reason, after all. What is the narrative they are trying to create?

That Horowitz spend a year and a half and wrote a 500+ page report about a low level lawyer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (ZLI7S)

160 Nuke DOJ from orbit. Just to be sure.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (xmKbk)
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Nope. The second nuke makes sure. Double-tap nuke.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (DuZls)

161 149 >>Well affiant is a 6 dollar word I'd never heard of before either.

An affiant is a person who swears to an affidavit.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:15 PM (ZLI7S)

Another one of those old Norman French legal words.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (Kpl3J)

162 Well affiant is a 6 dollar word I'd never heard of before either.


Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2019 02:14 PM (FhXTo)


An affiant is one who swears to the accuracy of an affidavit, a statement of facts, in this case that forms the basis of why a warrant should be issued.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (hLRSq)

163 My assumption is anyone who works for the Bureau is corrupt at some level. As a federal juror, any defendant walks if all the evidence comes from federal agencies or agents.

Burn. It. Down.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat
============================

This

Posted by: Guzalot at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (prSvo)

164 #24: pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: torabora at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (NgGt4)

165 Where does Democracy die again? I forget...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI3


In the DNC, I think.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

166 "Under." "Beneath." Heh.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (iw59Q)
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Mainly under his desk.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (DuZls)

167 spent

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (ZLI7S)

168 What's with all of these skanks employed at the FBI?

Posted by: Galil at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (Pzzpr)

169 Again: where in the Hell are the FISA court judges? They don't have to wait for squat to haul an attorney in front of them for perpetuating a fraud upon the court.

My assumption at this point is the FISA court judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the trash in the D.C. "criminal justice system," scare quotes used because of the appearance of the second word in that phrase.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (iw59Q)

Not quite or not in the same way, or else they wouldn't have to give them fake documents.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (FTPn0)

170 'Affiant' is French for 'Aflac.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (SNwMD)

171 And now for today's gratuitous use of power tools...
Toilet brush head in a drill motor to scrub the soap scum off the shower.
Including glasses and mask.

Posted by: DaveA at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (FhXTo)

172
Low level. High level.

At what "level" do these assholes get oversight?

Posted by: portlandon at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM


about 1,500 feet AGL

just enough "hang time" to keep it sporting

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (9C0cu)

173 Texas Leaguer


- 101st Airborne Bastonge 1944

Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (gmo/4)

174 Another one of those old Norman French legal words.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Norm French? Didn't he used to work for the DoT?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (G0qhR)

175 Affiant is the same thing as the declarant. There is a minor technical difference between an affidavit and a sworn declaration, but I can't remember what it is.

Posted by: LASue at November 22, 2019 02:19 PM (Ed8Zd)

176 here does Democracy die again? I forget...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI3

In the DNC, I think.
Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
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They can't just take credit for that!

Posted by: The Washington Post at November 22, 2019 02:19 PM (DuZls)

177 My hope for some semblance of serious repercussions is higher than it has been for some time.

* checks popcorn inventory

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:19 PM (DqSMl)

178 Did they low level employees from the IRS transfer to the FBI when they screwed up at the IRS?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:19 PM (O8SrN)

179 Just like Jeff Epstein was a "low level" Democrat donor.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (PUbDc)

----------

Katie Hill was a low-level Congressperson

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (WuI38)

180
Burn. It. Down.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat


Paging AllenG. Mr. AllenG. Please pick up your nearest red courtesy phone for an important message.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

181 And now for today's gratuitous use of power tools...
Toilet brush head in a drill motor to scrub the soap scum off the shower.
Including glasses and mask.
Posted by: DaveA


Also for brushing a horse with dried, caked on dirt.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (G0qhR)

182 Where does Democracy die again? I forget...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI3

..in darkness, with the Washington Post's thumbs squeezing the windpipe shut.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (FTPn0)

183 Can't we simply declare open season on bureaucrats? I mean it's that time of the year, isn't it?

Posted by: creeper at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (fE1wp)

184 Epstein didn't commit suicide.
The media's "reputation"? Yeah, suicide.

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (77WPm)

185 My question for Schitts is

ever had a load swallowed by the opposite sex ?

Posted by: REDACTED at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (rpxSz)

186 Where does Democracy die again? I forget...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI3

..in darkness, with the Washington Post's thumbs squeezing the windpipe shut.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (FTPn0)

... in darkness, with a pillow over it's face.

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (77WPm)

187 Affiant or whomever, I just want someone to swing for this stuff. Figuratively speaking of course.

Posted by: Lois Lernor's Retirement Advisor at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (NVYyb)

188 156 The mullahs are using snipers against people protesting gasoline prices.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
That sounds legal.
/s
Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (G0qhR)

The Mullah's are in about the same position as old Bad King John was back in Robin Hood days. They're stuck raising taxes and prices on everyone, just to have enough money to keep paying off the goon squad.

They've clearly run through all of the pallets of cash.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (Kpl3J)

189 "169 Again: where in the Hell are the FISA court judges? They don't have to wait for squat to haul an attorney in front of them for perpetuating a fraud upon the court.

My assumption at this point is the FISA court judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the trash in the D.C. "criminal justice system," scare quotes used because of the appearance of the second word in that phrase.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (iw59Q)

Not quite or not in the same way, or else they wouldn't have to give them fake documents."

That's an excellent point, which makes the question even more relevant. Are they afraid?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)

190 184
Epstein didn't commit suicide.

The media's "reputation"? Yeah, suicide.

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (77WPm)
Hey! this is a Banzai charge! Not officially a suicide!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (O8SrN)

191 Kevin Kline > Kevin Clinesmith

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (DuZls)

192 My hope for some semblance of serious repercussions is higher than it has been for some time.

* checks popcorn inventory
Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:19 PM (DqSMl)

McNabb! Fetch Sock Monkey a rum!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (ECrgQ)

193 Not quite or not in the same way, or else they wouldn't have to give them fake documents.
Posted by: Oldcat


Gives the judge plausible deniability.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (G0qhR)

194 Barack Obama was a just a low level president.... wait... that's not what we're doing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:22 PM (r+sAi)

195 The affiant is the person who reviews everything associated with the FISA application including the Woods Procedures that affirm every single thing in the application has been verified and confirmed.

That's the person who is fucked.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (ZLI7S)


Thanks Jack.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 22, 2019 02:22 PM (zVXtJ)

196 My assumption at this point is the FISA court judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the trash in the D.C. "criminal justice system," scare quotes used because of the appearance of the second word in that phrase.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:03 PM (iw59Q)
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Yep. I have written them off as don't-care for a while now. Strzok was having dinner with one of them as a personal friend.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:22 PM (DuZls)

197 ... in darkness, with a pillow over it's face.

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:21 PM (77WPm)

Like Scalia!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 22, 2019 02:23 PM (88+cf)

198 Just like Jeff Epstein was a "low level" Democrat donor.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2019 02:01 PM (PUbDc)

----------

Katie Hill was a low-level Congressperson
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:20 PM (WuI3

----------

Ed Buck? Yeah, another "low-level" Democrat donor

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:23 PM (77WPm)

199 195
The affiant is the person who reviews everything associated with the
FISA application including the Woods Procedures that affirm every single
thing in the application has been verified and confirmed.



That's the person who is fucked.



Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:11 PM (ZLI7S)





Thanks Jack.



Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 22, 2019 02:22 PM (zVXtJ)
So are they positioning this to hang some low level flunky for the badness of the FISA warrants even though all the high level assholes were the ones who set it up?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:23 PM (O8SrN)

200 I really appreciate all of the morons who possess a better understanding of the mechanics of jurisprudence than I and are willing and patient enough to keep the rest of us informed.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:23 PM (DqSMl)

201 Barack Obama was a just a low level president.... wait... that's not what we're doing.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:22 PM (r+sAi)

A low rent fuckwit.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (88+cf)

202 Epstein didn't kill himself, but the news media did.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)

203 Do any of these FBI woman ever wash their hair? Yack.

Posted by: Galil at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (Pzzpr)

204 So are they positioning this to hang some low level flunky for the badness of the FISA warrants even though all the high level assholes were the ones who set it up?

----------

Punish the monkey

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (WuI38)

205
How long do they think they can keep this secret?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (E8bmX)

206 Strzok was having dinner with one of them as a personal friend.
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:22 PM (DuZls)
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They even redacted that in the first release of texts. Something they don't want us to know.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (DuZls)

207 205


How long do they think they can keep this secret?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (E8bmX)
How long do you have?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (O8SrN)

208 That Horowitz spend a year and a half and wrote a 500+ page report about a low level lawyer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (ZLI7S)

I believe this is correct.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (1XNk8)

209 So are they positioning this to hang some low level flunky for the badness of the FISA warrants even though all the high level assholes were the ones who set it up?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:23 PM (O8SrN)


There are times and circumstances however when the shit does in fact flow uphill.

Posted by: filbert at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (NiXyF)

210 How long do they think they can keep this secret?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (E8bmX)

The morning of the 4th of November, 2020

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (77WPm)

211

What was that Latin phrase again, cerebus locus??

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (PUbDc)

212 Do any of these FBI woman ever wash their hair? Yack.


Posted by: Galil at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM



****

Thinking Jasmine Bleeth.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 22, 2019 02:26 PM (axyOa)

213 That Horowitz spend a year and a half and wrote a 500+ page report about a low level lawyer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (ZLI7S)

I believe this is correct.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (1XNk
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100% Accurate.

Posted by: The Washington Post at November 22, 2019 02:26 PM (DuZls)

214 208 That Horowitz spend a year and a half and wrote a 500+ page report about a low level lawyer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:17 PM (ZLI7S)

I believe this is correct.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (1XNk

=======

That that will be the narrative, or that that's what Horowitz did?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:26 PM (q80AH)

215 What was that Latin phrase again, cerebus locus??
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (PUbDc)


E pluribus blowme.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

216 >>My assumption at this point is the FISA court judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the trash in the D.C. "criminal justice system," scare quotes used because of the appearance of the second word in that phrase.

I wouldn't automatically assume the FISC is corrupt. The process of submitting an application for a FISA warrant depends on the honesty of the people submitting the application.

There is no defense attorney. No adversarial position. It's just the DOJ/FBI swearing that they are telling the truth.

The system is ripe for abuse based on the way it was designed. There is no need for corrupt judges.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (ZLI7S)

217 213 I believe this is correct.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (1XNk
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100% Accurate.
Posted by: The Washington Post at November 22, 2019 02:26 PM (DuZls)

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I believe that your style guide says you should write, "Well known facts known by everyone except crazy alr-right conspiracy theorists."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)

218 Punish the monkey
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (WuI3

You're gonna go blind.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (ECrgQ)

219 If the low level monkey gets punished the same way as the low level monkeys in Cincinnati and the high level jerkwads like Lois Fluckface Lerner walk away clean...

I think we're about to experience some very angry moments.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (O8SrN)

220 So per the earlier link, this Clinesmith was working on the mid-year exam which was Hillary emails which Comey declined to prosecute. Its all a big f'ing cabal.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (r+sAi)

221 216 The system is ripe for abuse based on the way it was designed. There is no need for corrupt judges.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (ZLI7S)

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Corrupt judges certainly help, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)

222 The Cincinnati thing was semi-plausible because the IRS field offices have some autonomy. In this case calling the guy "low-level" has the opposite effect, since you have to think if a low level lawyer is this corrupt and willing to do that shit, imagine how corrupt the higher ups are. I mean, he had to have done it under direct order, no?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (LWu6U)

223 McNabb! Fetch Sock Monkey a rum!
Posted by: Linn Ridge

Thanks LR but irrespective of tonights insult cage match with Sponge, my sobriety is of the utmost importance to me. I don't need no stinking help operating slightly off center.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (DqSMl)

224 Where does Democracy die again? I forget...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI3

********

Cincinnati

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (flINI)

225 204 So are they positioning this to hang some low level flunky for the badness of the FISA warrants even though all the high level assholes were the ones who set it up?
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Sure are. The guys on top keep their hands clean (so they think), and let the flunkies do the dirty work. Of course, the orders are done verbally so if the sh*t hits the fan, it becomes a "he said she said" with no evidence.

Posted by: WisRich at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

226 Low level lawyer that worked for Trump Enterprises and went to school with Don Jr.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (pw+jk)

227 I hope Strzok can smell the Walmart walls closing in on him.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (DuZls)

228 >>Corrupt judges certainly help, though.

Absolutely. My point is they are not a requirement if you have a corrupt DOJ/FBI.

And we did.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (ZLI7S)

229
The system is ripe for abuse based on the way it was designed. There is no need for corrupt judges.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (ZLI7S)

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So all those years I majored in Jurisprudential Corruption were wasted then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (WuI38)

230 So are they positioning this to hang some low level flunky for the badness of the FISA warrants even though all the high level assholes were the ones who set it up?


Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:23 PM (O8SrN)


I am skeptical that anyone handling FISA stuff is low level, and that person wasn't doing it just for shits and giggles. That person was directed by others, in concert with others, to do just that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (hLRSq)

231 215 What was that Latin phrase again, cerebus locus??
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2019 02:25 PM (PUbDc)

E pluribus blowme.
Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)

Swallowell: "my ass ipsa locquiter"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (Kpl3J)

232 Corrupt judges certainly help, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)
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All we can.

Posted by: Judge Holulopunu at November 22, 2019 02:30 PM (DuZls)

233 "216 >>My assumption at this point is the FISA court judges are just as corrupt as the rest of the trash in the D.C. "criminal justice system," scare quotes used because of the appearance of the second word in that phrase.

I wouldn't automatically assume the FISC is corrupt. The process of submitting an application for a FISA warrant depends on the honesty of the people submitting the application.

There is no defense attorney. No adversarial position. It's just the DOJ/FBI swearing that they are telling the truth.

The system is ripe for abuse based on the way it was designed. There is no need for corrupt judges."

No doubt the system is ripe for abuse, but why hasn't a judge hauled in an attorney who perpetuated a fraud on the court? That's probably the single one thing that will get even a well-connected shyster flailed.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:30 PM (iw59Q)

234 IF they are positioning this to nail a low level monkey, then the problem isn't that the higher ups got away with it, the problem is the investigators are

WILLING TO LET THAT HAPPEN.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:30 PM (O8SrN)

235 231
Swallowell: "my ass ipsa locquiter"
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2019 02:29 PM (Kpl3J)

=========

*le sigh*

Remember when Swallwell was known for wanting to nuke America, and now he's known for nuking his own pants?

*looks off into the distance wistfully*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:30 PM (q80AH)

236 Sure are. The guys on top keep their hands clean (so they think), and let the flunkies do the dirty work. Of course, the orders are done verbally so if the sh*t hits the fan, it becomes a "he said she said" with no evidence.
Posted by: WisRich at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

And to be tried in a DC court with an electorate that gave DJT 4.1% support. Any trial of any Deep State figure, no matter how low, that occurs in DC == acquittal.

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:30 PM (77WPm)

237 >>No doubt the system is ripe for abuse, but why hasn't a judge hauled in an attorney who perpetuated a fraud on the court? That's probably the single one thing that will get even a well-connected shyster flailed.

Probably because they are waiting on the same thing we are, the facts.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)

238 Of course, the orders are done verbally so if the sh*t hits the fan, it becomes a "he said she said" with no evidence.
Posted by: WisRich at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

On the other hand, if it's Trump, then it's absolutely convincing if someone says "Well this is what I think he MIGHT have said If I had ever actually talked with him, which I didn't!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (Kpl3J)

239 237
Probably because they are waiting on the same thing we are, the facts.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)

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I thought we were waiting for nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

240 Dream on if you think this is going anywhere

Posted by: Kurt at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (piboU)

241 The Dems would throw the low level employee in a dungeon, apprehend his dog and put him in a room full of cats, take away his kid's Xbox and send Antifa to camp on his front lawn for six months to get said low level employee to name some names.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (O8SrN)

242 Probably because they are waiting on the same thing we are, the facts.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (ZLI7S)
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Who does that?!

Posted by: James Comey at November 22, 2019 02:32 PM (DuZls)

243 Low level? With the ability and access to change docs? CEO's EVERYWHERE! Watch those janitors!

Posted by: Popw Frank at November 22, 2019 02:32 PM (LOq4H)

244 "236 Sure are. The guys on top keep their hands clean (so they think), and let the flunkies do the dirty work. Of course, the orders are done verbally so if the sh*t hits the fan, it becomes a "he said she said" with no evidence.
Posted by: WisRich at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

And to be tried in a DC court with an electorate that gave DJT 4.1% support. Any trial of any Deep State figure, no matter how low, that occurs in DC == acquittal."

There were early reports that some of the jurisdiction would be in Utah, apparently due to the storage of information or some such thing. That may have been crap but it was out there.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:32 PM (iw59Q)

245 Give me a break- first thing leaked from the IG report is a lawyer altering a document and fabricating a fake email to cover it up. Note the emphasis that the underlying FISA warrant was still valid. Horowitz is in on the game. His job is to cover for the FBI/DOJ. I am sad to report that I have no faith that anyone connected to past and current wretched skullduggery is going to jail.
There are two systems of justice in this country. One for us, and one for them.

Posted by: Wargeek at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (GglA2)

246 thought we were waiting for nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

********

I was waiting for Godot

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (flINI)

247 There were early reports that some of the jurisdiction would be in Utah, apparently due to the storage of information or some such thing. That may have been crap but it was out there.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:32 PM (iw59Q)

Overruled! Move to DC!!
- Random Obama-appointed Hawaiian Judge #2

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (77WPm)

248 The Dems would throw the low level employee in a dungeon, apprehend his dog and put him in a room full of cats, take away his kid's Xbox and send Antifa to camp on his front lawn for six months to get said low level employee to name some names.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (O8SrN)
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Yeah. Yeah. That's the worse we would do!

Posted by: Dems hiding the rat-head cages with their bodies. at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (DuZls)

249 246
I was waiting for Godot
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (flINI)

==========

#twoweeks

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (q80AH)

250 >>Absolutely. My point is they are not a requirement if you have a corrupt DOJ/FBI.


Not a smidgen of corruption.

Posted by: garrett at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (FTIa8)

251 Where does Democracy die again? I forget...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 22, 2019 02:16 PM (WuI3

********

Cincinnati
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 22, 2019 02:28 PM (flINI)

no, that's where football teams go to die.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (FTPn0)

252 Posted by: Popw Frank

Where the hell did THAT sock come from?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (LOq4H)

253 I was waiting for Godot
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (flINI)
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What a gal!

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (DuZls)

254 This is like saying the product had safety issues because the guy who sweeps the floors was falsifying engineering documents.

I just mean, it is a really stupid excuse to blame a "low level" lawyer for a coup attempt.

Either the dude was Pinky and the Brain genius AND their document control procedures were absurd trash, or he was a tiny cog in a much larger coup machine.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (LWu6U)

255 Dream on if you think this is going anywhere
Posted by: Kurt

Off shift from the hall monitor job?

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (DqSMl)

256 "237 >>No doubt the system is ripe for abuse, but why hasn't a judge hauled in an attorney who perpetuated a fraud on the court? That's probably the single one thing that will get even a well-connected shyster flailed.

Probably because they are waiting on the same thing we are, the facts."

From memory, notice of a potential fraud is grounds to haul in an attorney for an explanation. Bench warrants issue if there isn't compliance.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (iw59Q)

257 no, that's where football teams go to die.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 22, 2019 02:33 PM (FTPn0)


I thought that was Cleveland.

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

258 Ya know there is a lot more to this than a FISA warrant on Carter Page.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

259 >>245
Give me a break- first thing leaked from the IG report is a lawyer
altering a document and fabricating a fake email to cover it up. Note
the emphasis that the underlying FISA warrant was still valid. Horowitz
is in on the game. His job is to cover for the FBI/DOJ. I am sad to
report that I have no faith that anyone connected to past and current
wretched skullduggery is going to jail.
There are two systems of justice in this country. One for us, and one for them.


Posted by: Wargee


TAKE COVER !!!

Posted by: Wet Fart Watch at November 22, 2019 02:34 PM (Pzzpr)

260 203 Do any of these FBI woman ever wash their hair? Yack.
Posted by: Galil at November 22, 2019 02:24 PM (Pzzpr)

Mid-series Agent Scully they ain't.

Posted by: josephistan at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

261 Dream on if you think this is going anywhere
Posted by: Kurt at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (piboU)


Dude!!!!

Copyright.

Posted by: Aerosmith at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (LPnfS)

262 Dream on if you think this is going anywhere

Posted by: Kurt at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (piboU)
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Words said to you about the Schiff show?

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (DuZls)

263 Never trust the FBI. NEVER

Posted by: Richard Jewell at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (+oR7L)

264 I have a high-level pencil neck.

Posted by: Adam Schitt at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (vtcmf)

265 Well, the 'low-level' bullshit has worked so well up until now.
Why stop using it?

Damn those highly placed, access to restricted information, low level temporary intern government employees!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (O8SrN)

266 Trump is now saying that the "historic" IG report is going to the "highest levels" of the White House.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (HcHqw)

267 262 Dream on if you think this is going anywhere

Posted by: Kurt at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (piboU)
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Words said to you about the Schiff show?
Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (DuZls)

=========

Didn't Kurt assure us that Trump was going to be kicked out of office like...in the summer? That Schiff had the goods and Trump's days were numbered?

Oh, and I think he promised us that Mueller was going to take out Trump, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (q80AH)

268 Posted by: Kurt at November 22, 2019 02:31 PM (piboU)

BWWWAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)

269 So does this mean the smug cunt isn't going to jail?

Posted by: DanInMN at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (h5ffp)

270 263 Never trust the FBI. NEVER
Posted by: Richard Jewell at November 22, 2019 02:35 PM (+oR7L)

========

You're fat and white. You deserve what you get.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (q80AH)

271 Kurt was a good boy.

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (vtcmf)

272 266 Trump is now saying that the "historic" IG report is going to the "highest levels" of the White House.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (HcHqw)

============

But we should believe the anonymous leak more than Trump on this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:37 PM (q80AH)

273 Kurt was a good boy.
Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM


A very good boy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 22, 2019 02:37 PM (ejd/p)

274 Nood.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 22, 2019 02:37 PM (qC1Sy)

275 "258 Ya know there is a lot more to this than a FISA warrant on Carter Page."

Yes, obviously, but there is no requirement the FISA judges wait upon learning of a fraud. The optimistic take would be they are waiting after being asked to do so.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 22, 2019 02:37 PM (iw59Q)

276 269 So does this mean the smug cunt isn't going to jail?
Posted by: DanInMN at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (h5ffp)

You're going to have to be more specific.

Posted by: docj at November 22, 2019 02:37 PM (77WPm)

277 >>269
So does this mean the smug cunt isn't going to jail?

Would you mind being more specific?

Posted by: Galil at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (Pzzpr)

278
I know a guy who knows a guy.

B. Hussein O.


Posted by: Archer at November 22, 2019 02:13 PM (gmo/4)

==============================
By the book.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (Pqytn)

279 willowed again

Posted by: Masha Potatovich at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (vtcmf)

280 Ace have you ever heard of the Japanese concept of Gekokujo?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gekokuj%C5%8D

It is like a 1930's Japan deep state.

Posted by: dan-O at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (tGHTr)

281 272 266 Trump is now saying that the "historic" IG report is going to the "highest levels" of the White House.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (HcHqw)

Oh please mean that Obama's name is mentioned somewhere in the report.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (nNEcr)

282 266 Trump is now saying that the "historic" IG report is going to the "highest levels" of the White House.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (HcHqw)

Barry

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (/I91/)

283 >>Give me a break- first thing leaked from the IG report is a lawyer altering a document and fabricating a fake email to cover it up. Note the emphasis that the underlying FISA warrant was still valid. Horowitz is in on the game. His job is to cover for the FBI/DOJ. I am sad to report that I have no faith that anyone connected to past and current wretched skullduggery is going to jail.
There are two systems of justice in this country. One for us, and one for them


Who made the leak and where was it leaked to?

One of the final steps in an IG report is to give it to the potential witnesses and targets for their review. Given that the leak went to CNN and the WaPo it's pretty likely the lead didn't come from Barr.

I wouldn't get too wrapped around the axle about a low level lawyer being the sole target. It's likely false.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (ZLI7S)

284 I am skeptical that anyone handling FISA stuff is low level, and that person wasn't doing it just for shits and giggles. That person was directed by others, in concert with others, to do just that.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer!

In concert with the specific subject of the warrant that will be a slippery slope to climb. They will try.

Posted by: Sock Monkey..wearing my kilt need to upgrade with a Claymore at November 22, 2019 02:39 PM (DqSMl)

285 42
Mistakes were made
Nobody is more upset than us.


How about y'all, tomorrow?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 22, 2019 02:40 PM (YqED9)

286 Oh, and I think he promised us that Mueller was going to take out Trump, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (q80AH)
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Us poor right-wingers locked in our right-wing bubble...we always prove to have anticipated the stuff that hits them out of the blue!

That probably means right-wing media is changing reality!!

The Schiff Impeachment Show was a fart. Wet, dry--it doesn't matter. It was a fart.

I hope Schiff at least has the courtesy to excuse himself.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:40 PM (DuZls)

287 Mistakes were made
Nobody is more upset than us.

How about y'all, tomorrow?
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 22, 2019 02:40 PM (YqED9)
---
I didn't know about it until I read it in the news.

Posted by: Axeman at November 22, 2019 02:40 PM (DuZls)

288
266 Trump is now saying that the "historic" IG report is going to the "highest levels" of the White House.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 22, 2019 02:36 PM (HcHqw)



Barry

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (/I91/)

============================
By the book. That's what Barry's WH Counsel's Office ordered Susan Rice to type in her memo to herself.

Posted by: mrp at November 22, 2019 02:41 PM (Pqytn)

289 Ace have you ever heard of the Japanese concept of Gekokujo?


A rabid dog selling car insurance?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 22, 2019 02:42 PM (G0qhR)

290 Let's not go off the deep end, obama, biden, hillary, brennan, rice, clapper, are never going to be indicted, arrested or put in jail.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2019 02:43 PM (r+sAi)

291 There will be tanks in the streets of Washington before this is all over.

Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2019 02:47 PM (U6f/q)

292
Who made the leak and where was it leaked to? 

One of the final steps in an IG report is to give it to the potential witnesses and targets for their review. Given that the leak went to CNN and the WaPo it's pretty likely the lead didn't come from Barr. 

I wouldn't get too wrapped around the axle about a low level lawyer being the sole target. It's likely false.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (ZLI7S

Bingo. This was leaked by the bad guys, not by Barr, Horowitz or those investigating.

Posted by: tofer732 at November 22, 2019 02:47 PM (MYlFF)

293 It's all so House-Of-Cards. The WaPo is a cesspool of nasty little bitch-libs.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 22, 2019 02:53 PM (+fPHo)

294
Evidently, at the FBI, even low-level lawyers are allowed to materially
alter FISA warrant supporting documents without supervision or
oversight.
=====

Like the LtCol, everyone is allowed to materially alter government documents. DOJ, State, whatever, change evidence and documents at will.

After the ShiftShow, I think more and more voters will see the nonsense.

Onward to the FISA Court!

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 22, 2019 02:54 PM (MIKMs)

295 I thought Ms Gummy Esq liked being on top, making Strzok work under.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 22, 2019 02:55 PM (+fPHo)

296 @254

You have to understand, we know and see the totality of the conspiracy, this whole thing, at least from the IG perspective, is being investigated as isolated incidents.


which is why not much has happened with each successive Horowitz report.


Hopefully what Barr and Durham are doing is taking each of the data points and connecting the dots to reveal the grand conspiracy, reminiscent of the ending of The Usual Suspects.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 22, 2019 02:56 PM (gnCeF)

297 Conservative Treehouse, lol. He gets it right better than a broken clock, but only slightly. And then he writes loooong, repetitive pieces rife with tinfoil hat stuff that just made me turn away from his blog in favor of blogs like this one that consistently get it right and just as importantly admit when they get it wrong..

Posted by: csmats at November 22, 2019 02:57 PM (X5VFN)

298 Kevin Clinesmith is Sally Moyer's husband. Moyer is also FBI.

If Clinesmith is the line attorney, then Moyer failed to disclose that he was her husband.

She testified that the line attorney believed that he had probable cause for the FISA warrant on Page. Said it 'wasn't even a close call'. She futher testified that he had been involved in the investigation.

She reviewed the line attorney's warrant application, supported it, and signed off on it.

Clinesmith worked on the Hillary email scandal, the Russian Collusion Delusion, and the Mueller investigation.

He was reportedly fired from the Mueller investigation for 'extreme bias'.

Posted by: SophieRo at November 22, 2019 02:57 PM (fxwjb)

299 277 >>269
So does this mean the smug cunt isn't going to jail?

Would you mind being more specific?
Posted by: Galil at November 22, 2019 02:38 PM (Pzzpr)

Peter Strzok

Posted by: DanInMN at November 22, 2019 02:58 PM (h5ffp)

300 #245 "Note the emphasis that the underlying FISA warrant was still valid. Horowitz is in on the game. His job is to cover for the FBI/DOJ."


How can a warrant based on false information still be valid? Is this how it works?



Posted by: girldog at November 22, 2019 02:58 PM (SJiiM)

301 150 I am suspicious of all leaks. It was leaked for a reason, after all. What is the narrative they are trying to create?

Good point! Here's what I see:

"Careful with your vote, all you House Dems. Now you know SHIT IS gonna get real."

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 22, 2019 03:00 PM (PXD5t)

302 Wapo is liberal fox is conservative I take from both sides to get news. It is called the dialectic thesis, antithesis = synthesis.

Posted by: raimondo at November 22, 2019 03:20 PM (V3wgq)

303
Fox _was_ conservative _ish_

Posted by: Sphynx at November 22, 2019 03:24 PM (rXie1)

304 Ha ha!

I am hereby stealth-editing the bottom of this web page. I am now vanish!

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 22, 2019 03:24 PM (xptlg)

305 The Biden Scandal is irrelevant because he was only a low-level Vice President in a low-level Administration.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, In Accordance With The Prophecy at November 22, 2019 03:25 PM (dwojT)

306 So she worked under Strzok the same way Reggie worked under Obama?

Posted by: WhoElse at November 22, 2019 03:56 PM (6XLoz)

307 Is this "low level" lawyer working under Strozk a "he' or a "she"? Is Peter an equal opportunity poker of subordinates? I'm certain old "Milky Glutes" Andrew Sullivan is dying to know.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 22, 2019 05:40 PM (WRSbt)

308 Somehow, the phrase "working under" when it comes to Peter Strozk can take a different meaning, particularly with his schtupping relationship with Lisa Page, who DEFINITELY "worked under" Peter several late nights.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at November 23, 2019 01:46 PM (SH7Tr)

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Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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