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Supreme Court Ready to Rule In Favor of Trump on DACA Termination
The Supreme Court had earlier upheld a circuit court ruling that DAPA -- DACA for adults -- was unconstitutional.
Then Trump used an executive order to cancel Barack Obama's previous DACA executive order. Leftwing activists filed suit, claiming the Something precedent, and obviously a Hawaiian Judge found this argument plausible and issued a, get this, national injunction against the president's use of his executive authority. Based on the day's oral arguments and questions from the justices, court watchers expect the Supreme Court to uphold Trump's order and end the injunction. They're even questioning on what basis courts are even presuming to overrule an executive decision to cancel a prior executive decision. Something we're all wondering.
A closely divided Supreme Court seemed inclined to uphold President Donald Trump’s bid to terminate the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program during arguments Tuesday morning. The high court’s conservative majority appeared to think the administration has provided an adequate basis for ending the policy, and in spaces even wondered if the courts have power to review the dispute. ... "You've got a court of appeals decision affirmed by an equally-divided Supreme Court," Roberts said, in reference to the earlier DAPA case. "Can't he just say that's the basis on which I’m making this decision?" Apart from concerns about DACA’s legality, Justice Brett Kavanaugh said the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) identified independent policy reasons for ending the program. He repeatedly challenged lawyers representing left-leaning states and civil rights groups to identify what more the government should have done.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:19 PM (q80AH)
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Hey, maybe by ending Chevron we could clear this up.
"Is it in the statue explicitly? No? Then no, the executive isn't allowed to do this."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:20 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (Pzzpr)
How did that work out?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (wneaL)
I mean...
The Executive holds this power alone.
And Obama and Trump, in this case, are the same person.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (U6f/q)
Posted by: Howard Johnson at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (z1DPh)
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It's in the Good and Plenty Clause.
Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: BIG ALFREDO at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (Vdukr)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (xptlg)
How did that work out?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (wneaL)
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Well, they did, until Roberts changed his opinion at the last second. They were going to uproot the ACA completely until that sudden last second change.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: Adriane the Chronological Critic ... at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (LPnfS)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (M3a0a)
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Kneel before Zod, of course.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: zombie John McStain at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (/FMDH)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (AIGhm)
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It's in the Good and Plenty Clause.
Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:22 PM (uEbPt)
Interstate Commerce, of course!
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (UB/j7)
Posted by: Roberts at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (NiXyF)
Yeah, me neither.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (xptlg)
This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it. What scotus did today was disastrous.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (wneaL)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (AIGhm)
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That's just the noise she makes when she squats more than three hundred pounds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (P0nip)
If it so much as touches the penumbras, they have to consider it.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (AIGhm)
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One would think this would be a good rationale for the courts to stay out of a lot of disputes.
But what the heck, let's just change the millennial age definition of "marriage"
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (RD7QR)
This should not even be a court case.
The judiciary has abrogated to itself, with the collusion of congress, the lawmaking for our country.
At every level from traffic court to the SCOTUS.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (Tt761)
Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (fK2gX)
We have at least 3 and often 4 justices for whom law and the Constitution are impediments to their politics and they don't even try to hide it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ZCEU2)
Yeah, me neither.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (xptlg)
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I can easily imagine Kagan voting in favor of letting Trump end DACA. She's probably the most honest liberal on the court.
And I think Breyer has a long history of deferring to the executive that could push him that way.
RBG and Sotomayor, though, are insane progtards and will never contribute to a major Trump victory.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: NALNAMSAM at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (+ldAm)
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (AIGhm)
SCOTUS allowed sandy hook lawsuits to proceed even though the law states
clearly they cannot. So much for a conservative court. Even when we win
we end up losing.
This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry
through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it.
What scotus did today was disastrous.
This is a huge black eye for Trump.
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (Pzzpr)
So Matt Reeves "The Batman" the one staring Twilight princess Robert Pattison has apparently race swapped 3 of the leads. Commissioner Gordon, Cat Woman and Batgirl (by default, being commissioner Gordon's daughter) are all apparently POCs now. I haven't given up hope. It still might be good or even great. The casting of Gordon is apparently Jeffrey Wright, who was outstanding in West World. But it's still a troubling sign. The first clue that this may end up being a woke cluster fuck.
Posted by: Max Power at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:26 PM (ZCEU2)
What does the New York Times say? That's the way he will go.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: NALNAMSAM
You coulda been a contendah !
Posted by: JT at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: zombie at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (fK2gX)
Mahalo means "Bless your heart"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (UB/j7)
Posted by: J. Roberts, SCROTUS at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (ZKH8Q)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (P0nip)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (KNsKs)
And I think Breyer has a long history of deferring to the executive that could push him that way.
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Dems are more likely to use the executive to expand government, so deferring to the executive is a good idea, even if it grants Trump a temp victory of sorts.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (v0R5T)
Absorbed three souls just this morning. Winning!
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (KNsKs)
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How did you find the DNC's top secret motto for 2020?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (uRVQN)
From reports I've heard Sotomayer was complaing about the disruption this would cause and not arguing the law.
This is the famous Wise Latina compassion and empathy Obama told us about.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (H8QX8)
By which I also mean, appoint some more strict constructionalist justices next year and/or during your second term. At least one when RBG finally goes shrieking off into the night. Are there any other current justices old enough to think about retiring?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (Ejm1K)
"You gotta be fucking kidding me.. do you even understand what powers the president has? Constitution! Motherfuckers, do you even? Get the fuck outta here! And tell those stupid fucks that ruled in your favor before to read the constitution.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: zombie John McStain at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (/FMDH)
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So much this.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (xptlg)
So DACA is probably going to be unconstitutional?
All those DACA kids out in the cold, no citizenry?
You know, just maybe a body of oh, I guess, maybe 535 people, could come together and create a complete system of logical laws and procedures to thoughtfully control immigration? To the benefit of both American citizens AND the millions of immigrants that want to do work here?
No, I am dreaming wild, crazy dreams again. Gonna ask JackStraw for a bong hit or two. Maybe that will stop these crazy dreams.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:29 PM (sy5kK)
From reports I've heard Sotomayer was complaing about the disruption this would cause and not arguing the law.
This is the famous Wise Latina compassion and empathy Obama told us about.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)
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This lady is one of Obama's biggest legacies, huh?
I swear, any history of the Obama administration that's remotely accurate is going to be savage regarding that man's failures.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:29 PM (q80AH)
We need to put a stop to lifetime appointments.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: DBCooper at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (ynKzW)
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: TheHoser at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (IDjUx)
This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it. What scotus did today was disastrous.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:24 PM (wneaL)
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The ruling is insane. What a damn nightmare for the gun industry.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (wiXsO)
Why even bother to do that anymore? The Progs certainly don't care about the rule of law, why should we?
I'd like to see PDT start signing EO's at the rate of one per day or so to do things like end the idiotic idea of "anchor babies" and birthright citienship, close the Mexican border, and make Big Tech follow the Constitution to the letter (which means no more of their censorship of conservatives). Then outlaw sanctuary cities and begin arresting the mayors and/or city councils that pass those laws in opposition to the Constitution.
Now, what to do on Saturday? Outlaw "gun-free" zones. Sunday? Make American Civics a mandatory class (where the Founders writings are studied studiously) everywhere from K-kollidge.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (P0nip)
Justice Ginsberg asked of the Defendant Counsel, "What about your GAINZ, Bro? Do you even lift?"
+++LOL. These jokes still crack me up. I am simple that way.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (xlprn)
Not fucking kidding, Schiff is telling people not to say the words he himself published just a couple days ago and now pretends away.
https://tinyurl.com/yfpfl94s
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (NVYyb)
From reports I've heard Sotomayer was complaing about the disruption this would cause and not arguing the law.
This is the famous Wise Latina compassion and empathy Obama told us about.
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Sotomayer is not very smart, and RGB is too old to play the long game and just wants the affirmation of going against Trump.
Kagan will use this to bring Roberts to her side on something. Plus, she see's the benefit of expanded executive power.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: CNN at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (FZYNt)
It's clearly an abuse of power to appoint only judges who share his judicial philosophy
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (k81AA)
Sotomayer is not very smart,
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
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But have you seen her credentials, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:31 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (P0nip)
Yeah, and >70% expected SCOTUS to dropkick O-care. Justice Roberts will call it a tax or something and let the Orange Man Bad precedent become enshrined as precedent nationwide.
Posted by: physics geek at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (huQJB)
I'm curious just how involved Ruthie was with the arguments. Or any talking at all. Or even eyes blinking. Once for 'YES", twice for "NO".
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (xmKbk)
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:25 PM (sX1BW)
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Are we still allowed to disagree with SC decisions? I thought that once they shine rainbow colors on the White House, all arguments must cease.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (Pzzpr)
It's a devastating self-own for the Supreme Court. The President will correctly ask why the hell we need judges if gun makers are held to a standard no other company could meet.
It makes my idea of Trump as the new Caesar gain a lot of momentum.
Posted by: trev006 at November 12, 2019 03:32 PM (V+8Zu)
Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (QQ+il)
And how will that effect your vote for President in 2020? Do tell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (WI7YS)
We are beyond the rule of law and heading into a contest the left will lose spectacularly.
Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (67XdO)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (0jZvB)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (UB/j7)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (GvT9q)
Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (QQ+il)
One of the Top 3 running gags at this dump.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: CN at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Everything the man touched turned into a superfund site - Iran, Libya, Cash for Clunkers, DACA, etc, etc, etc
Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama-Butcher
#TwoWeeks
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (s2OJe)
This.Is.Not.Winning.
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (Pzzpr)
This scares the bejesus out of me.
If you've had your eye on a gun - go get it. Today. Usually I'm not a panic buyer but the SC just gave a greenlight to anyone who has been shot to be able to file a lawsuit against the firearm manufacturer.
This is going to be catastrophic IMO.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (9V81o)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (KUaJL)
Now do alcohol.
Or cars and trucks.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 12, 2019 03:34 PM (pB6Gt)
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Are you thinking RBG will be animatronic at that point?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM (NVYyb)
"I hear the Sinaloa Cartel is hiring."
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM (AIGhm)
We'll see how smart she really is.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)
Details? Not seeing anything mentioned on SCOTUSblog but that might not mean anything.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Jen the original at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (96m0f)
We'll see how smart she really is.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)
She's not in control of her caucus any longer.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: G. Gnome at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (al6UK)
Posted by: Miklos, a kindly sort at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (QzkSJ)
This proves that he's the whistleblower, right? Now they can say they need him to testify because Schiff released his name.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Rescinding those orders by sane/moderate/conservative presidents: Unspeakably unconstitutional.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (wGbBR)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
For a fleeting moment I read that as caca, which is also true.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (aS1PU)
And how will that effect your vote for President in 2020? Do tell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (WI7YS)
It won't but our country will never recover. The demographic change will be irreversible. It's not about voting for Trump, but keeping our country.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (P0nip)
There is no legal basis to give a President's Executive action the force of legislation. That, and any vote to the contrary is a clear assault on the Constitution itself (separation of powers).
Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (koNhm)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (AIGhm)
Man that was funny g.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'it's an eating disorder!' at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (lmBz3)
Personally I would throw every one of those mother's sons out of the country so fast your head would spin.
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (ZCEU2)
How many times do we have to calm the excitable that this is another of Trump's offers they have to refuse?
I mean, no matter what the deal is, some illegals are getting the boot.
And even one is 100% unacceptable to the Dem base.
So, once again, Trump gets to claim the middle ground without moving an inch.
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (k81AA)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (wneaL)
I bet she gets a bit of her control back with this impeachment farce blows up in Schiff's face.
Besides, she will only need a fraction of her caucus. Republicans will contribute a lot of votes on this.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (ejd/p)
Posted by: JackStraw
She'll never get the Squad wing of their party to go along - ever.
Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (32YRo)
Details? Not seeing anything mentioned on SCOTUSblog but that might not mean anything.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (qc+VF)
The Court declined to take up a Writ of Certiorari on an interlocutory appeal in the case; they didn't make any ruling on the merits of the case because the case is still ongoing.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (hLRSq)
That's a subtle hint that things are not going well for your position.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (vGJY7)
SCOTUS allowed sandy hook lawsuits to proceed even though the law states
clearly they cannot. So much for a conservative court. Even when we win
we end up losing.
This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry
through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it.
What scotus did today was disastrous.
This is a huge black eye for Trump.
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (Pzzpr)
Much worse.
What the Supreme Court did today was cement the foundation so there is now no turning back. The SC is letting the system destroy the 2nd Amendment through the back door.
This was possibly the last chance for a peaceful end to the charade of continuing a lawful society.
You figure out the meaning of my words.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (bDqIh)
***************
I think June 2020
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (y7DUB)
FTFY
She's has more Botox than human DNA now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: cpurick at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (7NboP)
https://tinyurl.com/yfpfl94s
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (NVYyb)
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So we've gone full Orwell.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Ugh at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (bIfJ1)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (yRAFu)
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (0jZvB)
talking at all. Or even eyes blinking. Once for 'YES", twice for
"NO".
They could hear her breathing when she called in via WebEx?
Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 03:41 PM (bDqIh)
Personally I would throw every one of those mother's sons out of the country so fast your head would spin.
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (ZCEU2)
I don't see how that would solve the problem.
Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 03:41 PM (O+iVW)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 03:41 PM (wGbBR)
Words mean things or they don't.
Posted by: nip at November 12, 2019 03:41 PM (Izot6)
Posted by: JackStraw
They'll burn Nancy down for it, too - she knows that - she's not in control - otherwise she never would have lit the match to this dumpster fire of an impeachment inquiry.
Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:41 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Jen the original at November 12, 2019 03:41 PM (96m0f)
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (GE++x)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (wneaL)
I fully expect a constitutionally illiterate Rube Golbergian monstrosity along the lines of...
Well, Obama didn't have the constitutional or statutory authority to do what he did but he did it and created a "process" and you simply cannot short circuit or end a "process" without going through the existing statutory and rules based process regimes.
So DACA stands, you must start the rules process all over again because you didn't follow the process for getting rid of something that didn't go through the process.
You dig?
It's all bullshit.
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (JLrCS)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:35 PM
More machine than jurist...twisted and evil.
Posted by: Obi Wan at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (ejd/p)
I need some work done and I'm not opposed to riding an American like a rented mule like I would if I used a freelancer in India. You'll need to work cheap and be eternally grateful for whatever scraps you receive in payment.
This is one step above an unpaid internship.
If you prove to be remarkable in your work, fast and accurate, you may receive a written commendation - but definitely no more money.
Apply in Ace's comment section. This position will go fast.
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (U6f/q)
Willowed:
In the real world, not the Mueller world, charging people with crimes is hard. A good prosecutor isn't going to bring charges unless he has evidence and he believes he has enough evidence to prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a very high bar as it should be.
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I get what you're saying.
And yes, Obama would be a tougher nut to crack, but I think it could be done.
But Hill-dawg? Hillary has swaying mountain of evidence against her. For many things, but just on the email server alone. Comey himself laid out a solid case for charging the boozey old sack of lipids, and then just said "nothing to see here, move along, no reasonable prosecutor would blah blah blah, have a nice day."
Just because a crooked, partisan, inveterate liar of a prosecutor with an unbroken record of corruption stretching back for decades says something, doesn't make it so.
She could easily be charged.
And she won't be.
And that is flatly unacceptable.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:37 PM (RD7QR)
For a fleeting moment I read that as caca, which is also true.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:38 PM (aS1PU)
..........
I read it as "carcass" which is also true.
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (v0R5T)
election of trump discredited clintonism in the democratic party alowing
the election of AOC to become the real thought leader of the democratic
party. This will radicalize the democrat party even more, finally
driving clinton/bidenism out of power in the democrat party. Even if
democratic party radicalization helps trump in short term ( unlikey
because of demographics even with biden crooks nominee ) In 2024 AOC
will become president and you will be your way to the re-education camp!
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (GE++x)
Your crazy rant really requires more exclamation points, raimondo
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (nAiE/)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (wneaL)
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (0jZvB)
Again, now do alcohol.
In the age of everything revolving around "feewings," most manufacturers are now fucked. They're going to get sued by everyone for everything negative that happens to them forevermore.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM
I think I've spotted the flaw there...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (ejd/p)
Well, Obama didn't have the constitutional or statutory authority to do what he did but he did it and created a "process" and you simply cannot short circuit or end a "process" without going through the existing statutory and rules based process regimes.
So DACA stands, you must start the rules process all over again because you didn't follow the process for getting rid of something that didn't go through the process.
You dig?
It's all bullshit.
Posted by: Huxley's Eye Glass Emporium at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (JLrCS)
It hurts how believable this is.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (KUaJL)
Sorry Ben, we couldn't keep this wonderful country you and your fellow genii gave us. We had a good run for a while, but we didn't deal with our domestic enemies when we had the chance.
Now they're all in power. #WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (HaL55)
https://tinyurl.com/yfpfl94s
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2019 03:30 PM (NVYyb)
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So we've gone full Orwell.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (G0vdT)
How the hell does that work with the Speech and Debate Clause?
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (NgKpN)
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Shaping the battlefield is not a bad thing. I, for one, welcome our Puerto Rican overloards.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (yRAFu)
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I suspect what he is concerned with is the process is the punishment, so even if you prevail on the merits, having to defend a bunch of lawsuits will bankrupt you anyway.
I don't believe that is where this is going, but it is a valid concern.
I just don't know enough about this case or ruling to comment. The fact that I have not seen too much on it today, leads me to believe it isn't a big deal - yet.
Sounds like it isn't ripe yet. Unfortunately, those who typically care for the rule of law - like conservative justices - care more about ripeness than our leftists counterparts.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (sX1BW)
..........
But can we say SPY?
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (v0R5T)
the last second. They were going to uproot the ACA completely until
that sudden last second change.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:23 PM (q80AH)
That's why Epstein had to die.
Posted by: There is no conspiracy at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (Zz0t1)
FIFY.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (KUaJL)
I can easily imagine Kagan voting in favor of letting Trump end DACA. She's probably the most honest liberal on the court.
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Nah. Not if her vote means anything.
Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (uEbPt)
will become president and you will be your way to the re-education camp!
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (GE++x)
Are you really this stupid or do you just eat lead paint chips?
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)
I need some work done and I'm not opposed to riding an American like a rented mule like I would if I used a freelancer in India. You'll need to work cheap and be eternally grateful for whatever scraps you receive in payment.
This is one step above an unpaid internship.
If you prove to be remarkable in your work, fast and accurate, you may receive a written commendation - but definitely no more money.
Apply in Ace's comment section. This position will go fast.
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (U6f/q)
Maybe you should throw in some whipping just to spice up the offer.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (RD7QR)
How much does Jerry Nadler hate Corey Lewandowski? Nadler was set to be the impeachment star until Lewandowski made him look like a bumbling idiot when Nadler could not locate the Mueller Report language he cited in his question.
Hey Jerry, if you you reference a quote from a document in a question to a witness, you better damn well have the document handy.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (gCAC6)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (qkXUc)
Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Jen the original at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (96m0f)
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Tell me about it.
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (yRAFu)
I wouldn't be so sure. If it looks like this decision will go for Trump then they have lost their leverage and they will be blamed for not saving the dreamers. But so will Trump. I think it would be a mistake to think public opinion wants these "kids" deported regardless of what we want. Hell, Trump was ready to make a deal a year ago when Nancy and Chuck walked.
In my experience deals get done when both parties have something to win and at the same time can minimize their losses.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (RD7QR)
I thought people would take the whippings for granted...
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (U6f/q)
Hey Jerry, if you you reference a quote from a document in a question to a witness, you better damn well have the document handy.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (OD2ni)
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Thankfully, Schiff is just as clueless but has less shame. Let's the circus continue for longer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (q80AH)
justice and the rule of law is dead in this country.
Posted by: Ugh at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (bIfJ1)
Don't take this personally, because lots of people do this, but I've had enough of the daily doom (It's all over!!!!!) for the day.
Catch folks on another thread--maybe.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (wneaL)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (oVJmc)
S/B: Just because a crooked, partisan, inveterate liar of a
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (AzW6q)
Just because a crooked, partisan, inveterate liar of a prosecutor with an unbroken record of corruption stretching back for decades says something, doesn't make it so.
She could easily be charged.
And she won't be.
And that is flatly unacceptable.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
She won't be because the statute of limitations has been reached.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (s2OJe)
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Nah. Not if her vote means anything.
Posted by: ... at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (uEbPt)
Yep. If it comes down to her, conservatives are fucked.
Remember, she's an Owebama pick. She is a communist of the highest order or she's not on his list.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)
control - otherwise she never would have lit the match to this dumpster
fire of an impeachment inquiry.
I still subscribe to the theory that Pelosi is letting Schiff hang himself with the failed impeachment attempt, rendering him and the squad wing of her party impotent and returning power to her.
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (0jZvB)
Posted by: Archer at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (VyDpG)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
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Then we will have to bomb Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (yRAFu)
Hit them where it hurts. Grab the pussies by the wallet.
Posted by: Nevyan at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (a7HML)
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Makes sense. There are a lot of laws that protect against negligence but not against gross negligence or will misconduct.
So all you are really doing is debating what is negligence v. gross negligence.
But it is a higher bar.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (sX1BW)
full moon tonight.
it's the November Full Beaver Moon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
That sounds better than the "No nut November" memes out there.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (vGJY7)
..........
I hope he got a nice steel plate installed like mine.
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (wneaL)
In a world that the Supreme Court cared about the future of the US, it would be 9-0 on both the sandy hook and DACA bullshit.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (sy5kK)
it's the November Full Beaver Moon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
Now your just taunting us.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)
Embrace the power of 'and'....
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 12, 2019 03:47 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: ... "
Also, subscribe to his newsletter and he will tell you how Christine O'Donnell can really win the general election.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (wGbBR)
I've started drinking early.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (T8A10)
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That would require Warren as the nominee and a 40 state Trump Landslide. I think we can help Nancy here.
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (yRAFu)
And that is flatly unacceptable.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 03:43 PM (AzW6q)
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It's the "no reasonable prosecutor" defense of government corruption.
IOW a universal declaration of surrender to LAWFARE.
Posted by: MAGA at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (ti+Fs)
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"As though," Corny?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (+y/Ru)
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That would require Warren as the nominee and a 40 state Trump Landslide. I think we can help Nancy here.
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (yRAFu)
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Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
She wants to lead the Democratic Party whether in power or out of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:48 PM (AIGhm)
>>Just because a crooked, partisan, inveterate liar of a prosecutor with an unbroken record of corruption stretching back for decades says something, doesn't make it so.
>>She could easily be charged.
>>And she won't be.
>>And that is flatly unacceptable.
Maybe.
Do you remember what Barr said back at the end of May?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:49 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: jwest
Bet you already got 10 resumes from former Dead Spin writers, right - see how easy it is to learn to code?
Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2019 03:49 PM (32YRo)
will become president and you will be your way to the re-education camp!
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 03:42 PM (GE++x)
Us and our 300 million guns?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (H8QX8)
clearly they cannot. So much for a conservative court. Even when we win
we end up losing.
This is what the left is salivating at, bankrupting the gun industry
through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it.
What scotus did today was disastrous.
This is a huge black eye for Trump.
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:27 PM (Pzzpr)
Much worse.
What the Supreme Court did today was cement the foundation so there is now no turning back. The SC is letting the system destroy the 2nd Amendment through the back door.
This was possibly the last chance for a peaceful end to the charade of continuing a lawful society.
You figure out the meaning of my words.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (sy5kK)
Not what happened. At all. In the slightest.
If anyone cares about, I don't know, ACTUAL FUCKING FACTS, here's the link to the denial of cert on the interlocutory appeal in the Remington case.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/111219zor_db8e.pdf
For those going, umm,, where is the opinion, there is no opinion. it's not even a sentence. It's on page 2, certiorari denied - look for docket number 19-168.
That's it. That's all it was.
There was no ruling on the merits.
There was no determination as to rights.
There was a refusal to take up an interlocutory appeal.
That's it.
You know, it would be truly helpful if people knew even the least little bit about how the appellate process works because procedural posture matters.
Now, as to substance, I think SCOTUS was wrong to refuse cert and that this issue was right for appeal as there is clear preemption of state law in this area and if there was ever a time to take up an interlocutory appeal, this is it.
But for all those of you running around with your hair on fire? Yeah. You're not even wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mf5HN)
Do you remember what Barr said back at the end of May?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:49 PM (ZLI7S)
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Was it in code through his bagpipe?
My metal filings were singing while he was playing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mf5HN)
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Donkey Chompers has a sadz.
Ocasio-Cortez: Politicians Falling Short 'Makes You Feel Like You Never Want To Love Again'
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (yRAFu)
it's the November Full Beaver Moon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
Well thank God it's not the full otter moon or...you know...
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (RD7QR)
This.Is.Not.Winning.
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 03:21 PM (Pzzpr)
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they, AFAICT, ruled on the clear language of the law, which carves out exceptions to the protections if there is, among other things, a violation of state of federal law in how the firearms are advertised.
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (P0DGT)
You can sue Remington because some fuck used one to shoot up a school? Then I'm suing General Motors for building the car that allowed a drunk illegal alien to kill Americans AND suing the booze manufacturers for making the brew that got them drunk.
This is a ridiculously bad decision.
The price of EVERYTHING will go up accordingly.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (RD7QR)
I thought people would take the whippings for granted...
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM
I believe the deal should be rum, sodomy and the lash. Surely some Morons have to be up for two out of the three.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (ejd/p)
Of course it is. Tell me again how judges don't matter, NeverTrumpers with your smirking Muh Gorsuch shizzle.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (1XNk8)
I suppose a gun manufacturer that advertised glorious murder from their AK with the thing that goes up, or their new armor piercing bullets ... or some such ... that could face a lawsuit. But advertising about the safe use of a gun ... is different.
idk if they should never face such a lawsuit, but of course the danger is the ignorant public, swayed by any tragedy involving children. I'm just trying to see why they may have let the case proceed. The gun maker would have to be negligent in the extreme, at promoting murderous use of weapon that is essential to personal defense (as guaranteed in 2a)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (Cus5s)
full moon tonight.
it's the November Full Beaver Moon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
When did we start naming moons? Beaver moon, strawberry moon, etc.
Posted by: josephistan at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (7HtZB)
He'll flense the flesh off the bones of the lower courts for allowing nationwide injunctions and for ignoring the president's clear authority to terminate DACA by executive order, and for generally attempting to set policy for the political branches.
I think Thomas really has his blood up at the moment.
The forecast calls for pain.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (Pk69y)
>>My metal filings were singing while he was playing.
No, it was in plain English.
https://tinyurl.com/y5j2gtld
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (+y/Ru)
way established a resolution to that suit. SCOTUS simply cleared the way
for the plaintiffs to bear the burden of proof that an inanimate object
is responsible for taking human life.
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:40 PM (0jZvB)
>>Again, now do alcohol.
Name one alcohol manufacturer/distributor that has been held responsible for a drunk driving fatality.
Done.
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (0jZvB)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (ZCEU2)
That's a subtle hint that things are not going well for your position.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:39 PM (mf5HN)
Did Clarence Thomas whisper to his pimp-hand, "Soon, baby. Soon" while the pro-DACA side was arguing their case?
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (H8QX8)
They aren't all that far away from using Ouija.
Posted by: Craig From Oz at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (lD3vL)
I think she means Woodpecker. If there are any left within a 50-mile radius of her home, that is.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Boswell "
Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports is really enjoying the demise of Deadspin. He offered the former writers 100k a year to be his butler.
Can't blame him though as Deadspin pretty churned the same anti-Barstool article at least once a month.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (OD2ni)
He'll flense the flesh off the bones of the lower courts for allowing nationwide injunctions and for ignoring the president's clear authority to terminate DACA by executive order, and for generally attempting to set policy for the political branches.
I think Thomas really has his blood up at the moment.
The forecast calls for pain.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (Pk69y)
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This would be a great vehicle for that nationwide injunction stoppage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
Mmmmmmmm.......Beaver.......
https://youtu.be/wS3LWOTCW4A
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (1XNk8)
How bad this is depends on what kind of POC we're talking about. If Catwoman and Batgirl are Sabado Gigante models with large chests, then I'm not seeing the problem.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)
Tell that to Wall St. gun related stocks be it gun manufacturers or related companies are all down bigly. Just a few lawsuit wins and it could bankrupt the entire industry. And this is what the left has been pushing for. They know they will never ban guns legislatively so they will do the next best thing and destroy the industry.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (wneaL)
I think even Ace would take that offer.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (AIGhm)
..........
But can we say SPY?
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (v0R5T)
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I read his memo again and it appears more saber rattling then anything. He references the whistle blower protection act but doesn't say the whistle blower is entitled to anonymity. Just implies it.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (G0vdT)
Done.
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (0jZvB)
Yet.
Wait and see now that the SC said it's OK.
Why do you fail to see this?
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 12, 2019 03:45 PM (RD7QR)
I thought people would take the whippings for granted...
Posted by: jwest
Ah, well, in that case I'd recommend throwing in some surprise otter anal. That out to seal the deal.
Posted by: Howard Johnson at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (z1DPh)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (JoUsr)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (ejd/p)
Fringe benefits, eh?
Yeah, that might work.
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (U6f/q)
"Surgeon General's Warning: Bullets administered at high velocity are known to the State of California to cause fatality."
"Please rampage responsibly."
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (0jZvB)
"He'll flense the flesh off the bones of the lower courts for allowing nationwide injunctions and for ignoring the president's clear authority to terminate DACA by executive order, and for generally attempting to set policy for the political branches.
I think Thomas really has his blood up at the moment.
The forecast calls for pain.
Posted by: Sharkman"
Good observation and I agree with you. He has been sending signals that he is fed up with these nationwide injunctions handed down by district courts.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (OD2ni)
How bad this is depends on what kind of POC we're talking about. If Catwoman and Batgirl are Sabado Gigante models with large chests, then I'm not seeing the problem.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)
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Nah, I have little fear around this. They don't feel like stunt castings like turning Ariel black in The Little Mermaid.
Hell, Man of Steel made Perry White black and no one cared. It wasn't some big racial comment. It was because Laurence Fishburne is kinda awesome.
Matt Reeves is a quality director, and I have about as much confidence in him delivering a good Batman movie as I would from anyone else. His two Planet of the Apes movies are some of the smartest big budget action movies of the last couple of decades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (q80AH)
Posted by: DOGGFISH at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (lMn1U)
it's the November Full Beaver Moon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 03:46 PM (d7Ww2)
When did we start naming moons? Beaver moon, strawberry moon, etc.
Posted by: josephistan
Mamas Not Happy Might As Well Go Fishing Moon
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (s2OJe)
Now, as to substance, I think SCOTUS was wrong to refuse cert and that this issue was right for appeal as there is clear preemption of state law in this area and if there was ever a time to take up an interlocutory appeal, this is it.
But for all those of you running around with your hair on fire? Yeah. You're not even wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mf5HN)
I'm glad you went to the trouble to say that. It could still come back to the Court down the road, after a trial. They just decided not to decide, today. It's disappointing, but the SCOTUS turns down at least 99.5% of the appeals that are sent their way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: josephistan at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (7HtZB)
The Harvest Moon has been called that for a LONG time.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
Done.
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (0jZvB)
Yet.
Wait and see now that the SC said it's OK.
>>Why do you fail to see this?
Keyword: "Yet"...means it hasn't happened.
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (0jZvB)
Besides that the SC ruled to continue to allow Remington to be sued for mass shootings. WTF.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Q5ALd)
He'll flense the flesh off the bones of the lower courts for
allowing nationwide injunctions and for ignoring the president's clear
authority to terminate DACA by executive order, and for generally
attempting to set policy for the political branches.
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Please please please let this happen!Thomas is da bomb
Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (wneaL)
How bad this is depends on what kind of POC we're talking about. If Catwoman and Batgirl are Sabado Gigante models with large chests, then I'm not seeing the problem.
Posted by: Ian S."
Yup. Batgirl in the 60's show had a mighty impressive rack.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (OD2ni)
You can sue Remington because some fuck used one to shoot up a school? Then I'm suing General Motors for building the car that allowed a drunk illegal alien to kill Americans AND suing the booze manufacturers for making the brew that got them drunk.
This is a ridiculously bad decision.
The price of EVERYTHING will go up accordingly.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)
The only winners? The Lawyers.
And who sits on the Supreme Court?
9 Lawyers.
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (yRAFu)
>>Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports is really enjoying the demise
of Deadspin. He offered the former writers 100k a year to be his butler.
I think even Ace would take that offer.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (AIGhm)
I'd offer them 100k to be my Groom of the Stool.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (N39Ws)
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"As though," Corny?
Sorry, you Prog cvnt. NFW will I ever believe in something I know to be false.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (HaL55)
Now, as to substance, I think SCOTUS was wrong to refuse cert and that this issue was right for appeal as there is clear preemption of state law in this area and if there was ever a time to take up an interlocutory appeal, this is it.
But for all those of you running around with your hair on fire? Yeah. You're not even wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mf5HN)
I'm glad you went to the trouble to say that. It could still come back to the Court down the road, after a trial. They just decided not to decide, today. It's disappointing, but the SCOTUS turns down at least 99.5% of the appeals that are sent their way.
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There is obviously a middle ground for outrage on this.
I do suspect we will see a lot of litigation on this - the left will mobilize to sue them to death. It is a good strategy. It worked for gay marriage. At some point, you will need the Court to hand over a clear and convincing victory in a phase or in a case where the Court would traditionally take the easier path.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
This place has a history:
https://tinyurl.com/y7v7dnwg
BOC Harvest Moon
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (ufFY8)
And this is what the left has been pushing for. They know they will never ban guns legislatively so they will do the next best thing and destroy the industry.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member
Because the cops. Nd military can buy their guns from the cartels or Russia.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (s2OJe)
"Surgeon General's Warning: Bullets administered at high velocity are known to the State of California to cause fatality."
"Please rampage responsibly."
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (0jZvB)
You jest, but this will come soon.
"This well built firearm is for personal protection/hunting only. DO NOT USE FOR MASS SHOOTING OF HUMANS."
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Cigarette Manufacturers at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM (yRAFu)
Why do you fail to see this?
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)"
What the SC said was "go have the trial, then get back with us and we'll look at it."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (JoUsr)
Like, he's sniffing my used tampons? And it's creepy and he won't stay 100 yards away like the courrrrrrrt said? Yanno?
Posted by: AOC Hearts Raimando at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM (1XNk8)
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"As though," Corny?
Sorry, you Prog cvnt. NFW will I ever believe in something I know to be false.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (HaL55)
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Old & Busted: Follow the science.
New Hotness: Climate Change, Don't stop believin.
Posted by: WisRich at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (QQ+il)
https://tinyurl.com/y7v7dnwg
BOC Harvest Moon
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 12, 2019 03:58 PM (ufFY8
Well played, sir. Well played.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (yRAFu)
Posted by: There is no conspiracy at November 12, 2019 03:44 PM (J70i0)
Epstein is dead!?!? How'd that happen?
He sure as heck didn't kill himself.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (SuGPw)
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (mf5HN)
Now, gun-hating groups and billionaires, can use their fucking money-grubbing lawyers to sue them out of existence by making wild-assed claims they have to fight in court, until they are bankrupt.
Michael Bloomberg has more eff you money than all the gun manufacturers profits for many years. He personally can now tie up every gun manufacturer, and while he is at it, every ammunition manufacturer. And they have to pay to fight it. Profit margins are not high in gun and ammo manufacturing.
This is such an obvious tactic that the state passed a law against it. The SC said "Eff You, gummakers, take away their protections and let them go bankrupt."
Where am I wrong?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (1XNk8)
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (Q5ALd)
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (OD2ni)
RIP to Yvonne Craig, who sadly died of breast cancer. How ironic.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: nurse ratched
Oblig.:
https://tinyurl.com/Primus-WBBB
Still one of the weirdest music vids ever. I love Primus.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (Pk69y)
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (wneaL)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 12, 2019 03:54 PM (JoUsr)
........
She would just bite him.
Posted by: wth at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: And Other Random Things Libs Say at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (YOhRS)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
And then of course there's the Three Wolf Moon, immortalized on fine T-Shirts and Chevy Vans.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (Kpl3J)
And who sits on the Supreme Court?
9 Lawyers.
Posted by: Don Q at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (NgKpN)
Exactly.
Common man is fucked. Hard.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: josephistan at November 12, 2019 03:52 PM (7HtZB)
Sailor Moon?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (T8A10)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (AIGhm)
"Surgeon General's Warning: Bullets administered at high velocity are known to the State of California to cause fatality."
"Please rampage responsibly."
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (0jZvB)
Lead Is Known By The State of California to Be A Cancer-Causing Substance
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (1XNk8)
You can sue Remington because some fuck used one to shoot up a school? Then I'm suing General Motors for building the car that allowed a drunk illegal alien to kill Americans AND suing the booze manufacturers for making the brew that got them drunk.
This is a ridiculously bad decision.
The price of EVERYTHING will go up accordingly.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)
this.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (yRAFu)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (1XNk8)
"The high court decision also opens the door for other victims of gun crimes to file suit against gunmakers.
https://tinyurl.com/vba7u5o
Posted by: FloridaMan at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (W+sQP)
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:57 PM (OD2ni)
Rack, hips, booty, the whole package. Caused a young Count to have feverish dreams on many a Tuesday and Wednesday nights.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (q1Pj5)
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (Pzzpr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 12, 2019 04:04 PM (vEIlU)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (ujg0T)
According to DDG, there's some nudes of her. Puffers.
VERY nice rack. Such a sad loss. Should I get the chance to ask, of all the cancers, WHY THE BOOBS??!!??
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)
Take it to Hot Air. I hear if you have a soft enough mouth, Allah P will let you into the VIP Stall.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (AIGhm)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (yRAFu)
Where am I wrong?
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Because they didn't take away any protections. They just didn't grant them any extra protections. At this point.
They decided the case was not ripe yet to hear.
I believe your concern to be valid. In the end, they will prevail. But yes, this may possibly increase costs in the process.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (sX1BW)
What about the chil'rn.
This is where I part company with everyone I know. I DO NOT CARE if you grew up here. Sucks to suck.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 04:01 PM (sX1BW)
That assumes a non-corrupt voting roll for each state.
The Blue State Motor Voter laws have been in force for a generation now, and the rolls have large numbers of non-citizens voting regularly.
So that horse left the barn a long time ago.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2019 04:02 PM (AIGhm)
That reminds me...need to go buy 6.8 SPC. I have a new bangstick.
My first AR-15.Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (T8A10)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:59 PM
"Manufacturer Not Liable If This Product Is Used In A Manner Inconsistent With Local, State, and Federal Law and Regulations."
Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 04:06 PM (tOP4K)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (yRAFu)
Was there even any darkly Camp humor to it, or is it as bad as it seems?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 12, 2019 04:06 PM (ujg0T)
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This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=374846
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 12, 2019 04:06 PM (AzW6q)
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And the furniture manufacturer who built the barstool he sat on. It's the And the Horse You Rode In On theory of jurisprudence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (nRWPy)
Now why, do you wonder, SCOTUS didn't point towards the 2nd Amendment and just say, "Sorry, but this document explicitly states that the right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed. Don't ever waste our time like this again or we'll throw your Communist ass in jail."
I suppose the ABA and all their lawyers must be paid. That's far more fucking important than just doing the right thing and slapping down an attempt to outlaw guns once and for all so we can start living with just a bit of legal certainty in our lives.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (Pzzpr)
Your concern is noted.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member
So now is a good time to buy gun manufacturer stock, and then wait until the jury decides that, no, it wasn't the gun's fault that Adam Lanza killed all those kids, it was Adam Lanza's fault.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (Pk69y)
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (Q5ALd)
Posted by: The one who always says No Standing! at November 12, 2019 04:08 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (yRAFu)
Was there even any darkly Camp humor to it, or is it as bad as it seems?
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I laughed twice. Both times Hitler has the funny bones. Not a bad concept but there is no suspense, no irony, and the kid's voice was impossible to follow. I will say Hitler is guaranteed box office. The guy is money.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:08 PM (yRAFu)
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 04:08 PM (GE++x)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Reformed NeverTrumper at November 12, 2019 03:33 PM (0jZvB)
Who the fuck is Mark Sanford?
Posted by: Max POwer at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (q177U)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (nRWPy)
through lawsuits. Voila, gun control without any actual votes on it.
What scotus did today was disastrous.
This is a huge black eye for Trump."
Meh, so an obvious bs case goes to trial.
A long way to the commies actually succeeding.
Should scotus have tossed it ? obviously yes.
black eye for PDT ?
Puh - leeze.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (JwHjN)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 04:10 PM (1ISKN)
Posted by: Bert G at November 12, 2019 04:06 PM (tOP4K)
They'd be sued for using language that's not simple enough for the stupid to understand.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:10 PM (Q5ALd)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 12, 2019 04:10 PM (wtvvX)
Because they didn't take away any protections. They just didn't grant them any extra protections. At this point.
They decided the case was not ripe yet to hear.
I believe your concern to be valid. In the end, they will prevail. But yes, this may possibly increase costs in the process.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (sX1BW)
Ok, fair enough. But it won't end with simply increasing costs. It will end by bankrupting the entire industry. That is the strategy, and they have powerful monied forces, enough to make it happen.
And what stops this from spreading to the other industries mentioned above, the auto and the liquor industry?
Nothing.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:10 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: raimondo
Maybe so.
Guess it's time to go buy that reloading rig I've had my eye on, and about 100K rounds worth of powder, casings and bullets.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:11 PM (Pk69y)
Puh - leeze.
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Umm, more like a vote prodder for Trump with spurs. Big nasty Mexican spurs.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:11 PM (yRAFu)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (nRWPy)
We could always exhume her corpse and send it to the Russian front.
Posted by: Someguy at November 12, 2019 04:11 PM (O+iVW)
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 03:50 PM (OD2ni)
Judge Don Ho: Of course we have supreme power in the county. It's says so right there in the constipation...errr. constitution
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2019 04:11 PM (od504)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:11 PM (nRWPy)
That is a remarkably badly written article - the SCOTUS said none of the things that the article claims they did. What happened was that Remington filed an interlocutory appeal, trying to stop the process before trial, and the SCOTUS said just one word: "Denied."
I think it should have been taken up and dropped, but it looks like it's going to hinge on whether Remington marketed it's Bushmaster rifle with video game placement.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 04:11 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 12, 2019 03:55 PM (q80AH)
Oh, I totally forgot he directed those.
Posted by: Max Power at November 12, 2019 04:12 PM (q177U)
Sooo, just like Fender Stratocasters, eh?
Yes Virginia, the Fender website has a People's Glorious Republic of Kalifornia warning for cancer on it on the guitar pages.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 04:12 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2019 04:13 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (nRWPy)
We could always exhume her corpse and send it to the Russian front.
Posted by: Someguy
Nah, too much work.
Just shoot the bitch in the face (again).
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:13 PM (Pk69y)
They decided the case was not ripe yet to hear.
I believe your concern to be valid. In the end, they will prevail. But yes, this may possibly increase costs in the process.
Posted by: SH at November 12, 2019 04:05 PM (sX1BW)
But because this is an obvious Constitutional issue, Constitutional protection should have been granted.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:13 PM (Q5ALd)
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She is a goblin. They never die.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:13 PM (yRAFu)
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900 millikohns of pure stupid
Posted by: Guzalot at November 12, 2019 04:14 PM (prSvo)
Where am I wrong?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:00 PM (sy5kK)
Name where the Supreme Court said that.
Do it.
I provided you a helpful link to the original source material from the Supreme Court on the denial of cert.
State for me, from original source materials, where the Supreme Court made a ruling as to substance.
Also, and I shouldn't do this because I've already covered myself with not glory in this here thread, but you mean there is a Federal law that was passed, not a state law.
Is this an invitation to lawfare? Possibly. But everyone here seems to be ignoring the numerous cases that have been dismissed in courts across the country against gun manufacturers. Oh and legal fees have been awarded to the ammo and gun manufacturers for those suit but, nah, none of that matters.
Do you even know what the denial of cert in this case means for the procedural posture of the Sandy Hook suit?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 04:14 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 04:14 PM (r+sAi)
Nothing.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:10 PM (sy5kK)
The fight is centered on marketing. If someone marketed liquor to children by advertising it on kid's channels and kids video games, I imagine they'd face some heat for that. Now I don't think Remington did that, but that's what they're being accused of doing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 04:14 PM (Kpl3J)
They aren't all that far away from using Ouija.
********
Sotomayor, The Ouija Latina - a limerick
The Tarot-reading activists meddled
And Ouija board predictions were peddled
They ridiculed us all
Gazed into their crystal ball
And said, "Nonsense, the seance is settled!"
Posted by: Muldoon at November 12, 2019 04:14 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 04:15 PM (mf5HN)
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She is a goblin. They never die.
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Just needs the blood of virgins. That's why she and Planned Parenthood are hand in hand.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 04:15 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 12, 2019 04:09 PM (d7Ww2)
Wait.....there are beaver TRAPS?
Is it a wad of cash on a string you can pull along leading them to your bedroom?
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 04:14 PM (r+sAi)
THERE WAS NO DECISION OMFG I AM GOING TO HAVE A STROKE
DENIAL OF CERT IS NOT A DECISION ARRRRGGGHHHHH
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2019 04:15 PM (+y/Ru)
Ahem. Those aren't virgins.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
And then of course there's the Three Wolf Moon, immortalized on fine T-Shirts and Chevy Vans.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Bomber's Moon
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (s2OJe)
VERY nice rack. Such a sad loss. Should I get the chance to ask, of all the cancers, WHY THE BOOBS??!!??
Posted by: Sponge"
One of the first pics to come up when you turn the safe settings off on Bing. Good lord.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
"Johnny, are we done for the day? I have an appointment at the Elizabeth Bathory Day Spa."
Posted by: Notorious RBG at November 12, 2019 04:17 PM (QzkSJ)
However, as stated it is the lawfare to kill the firearm industry that is the point.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2019 04:17 PM (r+sAi)
DENIAL OF CERT IS NOT A DECISION ARRRRGGGHHHHH
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (mf5HN)
The decision was to let the lawsuits continue.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:17 PM (Q5ALd)
THERE WAS NO DECISION OMFG I AM GOING TO HAVE A STROKE
DENIAL OF CERT IS NOT A DECISION ARRRRGGGHHHHH
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 12, 2019 04:16 PM (mf5HN)
*shoves a cookie through USB*
Also, have some happiness.
https://youtu.be/LAyIUpYhI24
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 12, 2019 04:18 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 04:18 PM (xfb67)
Well there goes Cuck Kristol's $1,000 down the crapper
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2019 04:18 PM (od504)
So it is completely logical and in fact expected when a Court says "tell you what, why don't you go off and spend $20 or $30 million fighting this for the next 6 or 7 years, and then get back with me." Because that's what courts do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 04:18 PM (Kpl3J)
I hope it gets enforced good and hard, and I hope trump reminds "the children" who sold them out.
Posted by: Reality Man at November 12, 2019 04:18 PM (//Byp)
Posted by: Tom Servo
I get it.
But then as a defense attorney I just keep saying to the Jury: "Adam Lanza didn't buy the gun he saw advertised on his episodes of Spongebob Squarepants (or whatever). So perhaps it was bad form for Remington to advertise on a kid's show, but the PURCHASE of the weapon and its later use had nothing to do with that advertisement. His mother bought the gun as a result of walking by the gun counter at Target."
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:19 PM (Pk69y)
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I would include Adam Lanza's father in there as deserving of fault as well. He decided his first wife and his crazy-eyed son were cramping his style, so he walked out on them, found a nice young wife, and started a new family.
It's a given that mothers cannot replace a father nor a father's role in the family. I don't have any answers as to what she should have/could have done, obviously in hindsight she should never have brought guns into their home. Her love for her severely defective son blinded her to his murderous rage.
Posted by: Boots at November 12, 2019 04:19 PM (oGBso)
So now is a good time to buy gun manufacturer stock, and then wait until the jury decides that, no, it wasn't the gun's fault that Adam Lanza killed all those kids, it was Adam Lanza's fault.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:07 PM (Pk69y)
No it is not, because of the many thousands of additional lawsuits from gun grabbers and their moneypeople against the manufacturers.
Gun makers are going the way of the RoundUp manufacturer.
There will be thousands of TV ads begging for anyone to call their 800 number and join the latest lawsuit against gun manufacturers if you were ever shot by a gun.
"Sign here against big, bad guns, and eventually get some money. Let us do the work."
Very effective.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (Pk69y)
An arm being the thing that can be used in its intended design and function to prevent a tyrannical takeover.
That includes the bullets........
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Reality Man at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (//Byp)
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: alexthechick
Restructuring bankruptcy.
Not a "fuck it, we're out of money" bankruptcy.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 04:21 PM (s2OJe)
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 04:21 PM (GE++x)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 12, 2019 04:22 PM (xfb67)
Restructuring bankruptcy.
Not a "fuck it, we're out of money" bankruptcy.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2019 04:21 PM (s2OJe)
However, it's still largely irrelevant in this case.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:22 PM (Zz0t1)
And those lawsuits can eventually be appealed up to SCOTUS if the lower courts don't do their job. That's all that's actually happening here.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 04:22 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Tom Servo
I get it.
But then as a defense attorney I just keep saying to the Jury: "Adam Lanza didn't buy the gun he saw advertised on his episodes of Spongebob Squarepants (or whatever). So perhaps it was bad form for Remington to advertise on a kid's show, but the PURCHASE of the weapon and its later use had nothing to do with that advertisement. His mother bought the gun as a result of walking by the gun counter at Target."
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:19 PM (Pk69y)
And the legal bill continues at thousands per day for that gun manufacturer, while this nonsense plays out in court.
Until one day the CFO calls and says, "oops! We're out of money!"
That is exactly the plan from the beginning.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:23 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 04:21 PM (GE++x)
You're the problem. You're the poster child for a failed public school system and prove it overwhelmingly with every post.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: raimondo
That's why the government has already tried to take our guns by force, right?
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:23 PM (Pk69y)
Heaven fucking forfend SCOTUS actually do their goddamned jobs and protect and defend the Constitution and our freedoms.
We're totally fucked. And it's their spinelessness that allows it to happen. Notice all the gauziness around the law these days. How many times do we hear the words, "...that may be illegal?" What happened to "No, that's illegal and you can't do that?" Haven't heard that phrase in decades.
The Progs just have to start injecting doubt into what should be very clear ideas of legal and illegal. That way, the Legal Ephors must always be consulted and paid.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 12, 2019 04:23 PM (HaL55)
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All my guns were lost in a terrible canoe accident. Ammo too.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 12, 2019 04:24 PM (yRAFu)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 12, 2019 04:24 PM (GvT9q)
There will be thousands of TV ads begging for anyone to call their 800 number and join the latest lawsuit against gun manufacturers if you were ever shot by a gun.
"Sign here against big, bad guns, and eventually get some money. Let us do the work."
Very effective.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (sy5kK)
Remember that it's only the State of Connecticut that has allowed this so far.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 04:24 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at November 12, 2019 04:20 PM (RD7QR)
where/when?
I don't recall anything like that, but would cheerfully be wrong.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:24 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:24 PM (Q5ALd)
Posted by: raimondo at November 12, 2019 04:25 PM (GE++x)
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 12, 2019 04:25 PM (nRWPy)
Until one day the CFO calls and says, "oops! We're out of money!"
That is exactly the plan from the beginning.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
I understand that.
I also understand that any gun manufacturer that hasn't already set aside a percentage of its yearly operating budget to pay legal fees doesn't really deserve to stay in business. Attorney fees, as irritating as they are to pay, are simply a cost of doing business. Unfortunate. But no different that a lot of industries. At least the gun industry does have SOME protection under the 2nd amendment.
Perhaps when this case is over and all appeals are done, we'll know who was right. As AtC says it is a little bit early on a denial of cert of an interlocatory appeal before trial to fill our drawers and hand all our guns over to Retardo.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:27 PM (Pk69y)
The Harvest Moon has been called that for a LONG time.
Posted by: Sponge at November 12, 2019 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
It made me a lot of money by just recognizing it.
Posted by: Neil Young at November 12, 2019 04:28 PM (sy5kK)
CT today, CA tomorrow. It only takes one or two $500m judgements to destroy the industry. And once the precedent is set you will have every gang banger lining up to sue and plenty of lawyers to represent them.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 12, 2019 04:28 PM (wneaL)
And those lawsuits can eventually be appealed up to SCOTUS if the lower courts don't do their job. That's all that's actually happening here.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 04:22 PM (ZGrMX)
That's well understood. Why can't they address it now?
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:29 PM (Q5ALd)
I also understand that any gun manufacturer that hasn't already set aside a percentage of its yearly operating budget to pay legal fees doesn't really deserve to stay in business. Attorney fees, as irritating as they are to pay, are simply a cost of doing business. Unfortunate. But no different that a lot of industries. At least the gun industry does have SOME protection under the 2nd amendment.
Perhaps when this case is over and all appeals are done, we'll know who was right. As AtC says it is a little bit early on a denial of cert of an interlocatory appeal before trial to fill our drawers and hand all our guns over to Retardo.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 12, 2019 04:27 PM (Pk69y)
We are basically agreeing on the issue, but not the degree how close this decision has taken us to the precipice of something very ugly and irreversible.
A few points of profit set aside for professional services is normal. Your entire annual profit margin for legal fees, to fight a crazed political move, is not normal.
an obtuse, but illustrated example of our different views:
We both agree Pearl Harbor is a nice place and those Japanese seem unfriendly.
One view is that it is late fall. My view is that it is early December.
And because of our time tunnel of history we both know what happens around 8am on December 7.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:38 PM (sy5kK)
Unless there's some marketing strategy that entails killing your mother and stealing it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2019 04:39 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Galil at November 12, 2019 04:03 PM (Pzzpr)
There is another way to look at this. Trump has always stated he is sympathetic to the DACA "kids," (and knowing a few myself I have sympathy for many of them) and has has long implied DACA could be tied to a big picture negotiation. IF he can leverage something like legislatively blocking birthright citizenship, etc., than that would IMO be a good trade.
BUT, let's look at the reality. The Dems will not negotiate anything with Trump. He can go into the election being seen as looking to get some positive things done for Hispanics and "common sense" immigration reform if only those Democrats were't in the way showing that they care more for politics than the Hispanic voting base.
Posted by: Keith at November 12, 2019 04:40 PM (jdGlx)
And those lawsuits can eventually be appealed up to SCOTUS if the lower courts don't do their job. That's all that's actually happening here.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2019 04:22 PM (ZGrMX)
That's well understood. Why can't they address it now?
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 12, 2019 04:29 PM (Q5ALd)
Because lawyers have to feast, and the Supreme Court protects their own.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:41 PM (sy5kK)
Remember that it's only the State of Connecticut that has allowed this so far.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 12, 2019 04:24 PM (Kpl3J)
Tom, it's a camel's nose in the tent thing.
Been watching my state, WA, corrupt the state and US Constitutions the last few years to obliterate gun owner civil rights. It is a systematic campaign full of lies, big money campaigns, and controlling their message by owning the airwave messages.
It has really turned my head on how driven the anti-gun people are against what those Constitutions actually say.
They are so effing corrupt, it makes me sick.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 12, 2019 04:48 PM (sy5kK)
If it turns out that a DACA recipient was able to obtain citizenship eventually, could they then sponsor their parents to stay in the country illegally?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 12, 2019 04:50 PM (iuFgi)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 12, 2019 04:52 PM (iuFgi)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 06:15 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 06:35 PM (Ndje9)
If you planned to go into the exciting Permanent Coup business, what would be your Number One policy goal be?
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2019 06:39 PM (Ndje9)
If that is so, or the child was born outside the US not to American citizens, than why should we take the money away from our children and give it to yours? Our children are dreamers to, we owe it to them, not to you. You did not build this country, nor did your ancestors, so we owe you nothing. The only way we would consider it is if you want to join us as an American citizen, that is, follow the legal path to that.
Posted by: SanityClause at November 12, 2019 07:00 PM (5gz4z)
Posted by: alan stern at November 12, 2019 08:37 PM (nAcNw)
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