Mark Hemingway: Is the Anti-Trump "Resistance" Just the Attempt of the Ruling Class/Establishment/Managerial Class to Give Legitimacy to Their Worldview of Socially-Favored Fictions?

Also, it starts off with a nice little story about a young Mark Hemingway discovering the world is often corrupt and filled with self-dealers. (He learned this at a baseball card shop.)

For some time, I have been trying to articulate a specific idea about how various elites and institutions cover for the political class and how the Trump-era "resistence" was the antithesis of this. Then a very smart friend of mine, thinking along nearly identical lines, blurted this out over email:

I think the world generally, and the world of the powerful in particular, is far less lucid and more incoherent than most assume. The main difference between Trump and his predecessors is that the professional class / deep state / neoliberal order / whatever-you-want-to-call-it is fluent in a language that imposes a kind of regulative fiction on that chaos. Their fluency gives them gives them a patina of legitimacy and not a little power over the less fluent, which comforts some normies but also drives conspiratorial thinking. Trump and a lot of the people around him lack this fluency and have no interest in cultivating it.

I think the term "regulative fiction" is misleading. Those fluent in Nietzsche's writings might get it, but I don't think it's a good word for a general audience, as it suggests this has to do with government regulation.

It doesn't. It is meant to mean that the Ruling Caste has created a simplified story --- a mythology, we could say, a mythos -- which simplifies the unruly chaos of the real world into a more easily-grasped (and very untrue) vision of the world and teaches certain morals and virtues (claimed morals and virtues, anyway) based upon that mythology.

This mythos just coincidentally also happens to justify why they are the only ones Fit to Rule. All aspects of the mythos are designed to, or by happy accident, identify problems (or fictionalized, simplified versions of problems) which the Ruling Caste is uniquely able to solve, due to (here are sub-myths that support the overarching Ur-Myth) of their education, their good taste and judgment their (they never say this but it's obvious that they think it) breeding, etc.

For what it's worth, the phrase "regulative fiction" is borrowed from Nietzsche, or at least his translator.
I think this desperate need to maintain the regulative fiction in Washington is the whole ballgame for understanding what is going on with the Trump administration. For a very long time before Trump, the "regulative fiction" was getting very, very discordant with reality.

Again, feel free to substitute "mythology" or "mythos" or even "Creation myth" or "self-justifying, egocentric personal mythology" for "regulative fiction."

Certainly, the WMD issue and poorly planned wars in the Bush administration soured even conservative voters. And then the Obama administration happened and things got a million times worse, because while the media are as invested in maintaining the regulative fiction generally, they are very interested in it as a partisan and specifically ideological matter.
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I think voters in no small part voted for Trump because they were sick of being told rosy stories about how the government operates.

He notes that the current project of the beltway priests maintaining belief in their increasingly-bizarre mythos is to paint Trump as a clown who shouldn't be supported, so that their religion has no loud, popular apostate challenging it.

Except they can't do that without asking voters to choose between Trump's behavior and Washington’s preferred narrative of how things are supposed to work, and Beltway types still haven’t grasped that voters decided long before Trump arrived on the political scene that most of what passes for standard operating procedure in D.C. is just as farcical.

Hemingway goes into that, noting, for example, that the public does not credit Pierre Delecto and the rest of the High Priests of the Pro-Government Mythology who are always screaming about Trump violating "norms," because they've known for a long, long time that those claiming to be custodians of our precious "norms" are violating those norms all the time, and often more egregiously than Trump does.

Read the whole thing. It's interesting. I have a point I'd like to make that jogs along with Hemingway's, but it's not quite the same (I don't think), and I'll save that for later.

It just so happens that Victor Davis Hanson also writes about the "norms" the Norms-Defenders claim are so precious to them -- alleged norms which they're viciously abusing every single day.

But, of course, those norms must be sacrificed -- along with actual conservative governance -- to save these supposed norms.

We had to burn the norms to save them, it turns out.

The so-called deep state detests him. An anonymous op-ed writer in the September 5, 2018 New York Times bragged about the bureaucracy's successful efforts to ignore Trump’s legal mandates--a sort of more methodical version of the comical Rosenstein-McCabe attempt to stage a palace coup and remove Trump, or the Democrats efforts to invoke the 25th Amendment and declare Trump crazy, bolstered by an array of Ivy League psychiatrists who had neither met nor examined him.
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Most of the prominent New York-Washington, D.C. insider Republican pundits abhor him. The creed of a NeverTrumper is that it is well worth the effort to see the current Republican president removed, and his administration imploded--even if that means four or eight years of an Elizabeth Warren, a Bernie Sanders, or a Joe Biden agenda as voiced in the debates. That would likely mean Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, slavery reparations, permissible infanticide in the case of late-term abortions, a wealth tax, and a generally socialist platform, from renouncing student debts to veritable open borders.
Only amid the ashes of Trump's destruction do sober and judicious conservative intellectuals, writers, pundits, think-tankers, and establishment Republican grandees believe they can step in to rebirth the Republican Phoenix, nurturing the rising new party with its once hallowed traditions as exemplified by George H.W. Bush, John McCain, and [Pierre Delecto, scrub-boy and butter-captain at the French "Follies Bourgeiois" bath-house].
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The Left detests Trump for a lot of reasons besides winning the 2016 election and aborting the progressive project. But mostly they hate his guts because he is trying and often succeeding to restore a conservative America at a time when his opponents thought that the mere idea was not just impossible but unhinged.
And that is absolutely unforgivable.

There's a great more to that essay too.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:36 PM

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1 FIST!

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:36 PM (Y4EXg)

2 Won't call the corgis since The Boss tipped his hand.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:36 PM (Y4EXg)

3 Well?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:37 PM (Y4EXg)

4 italicans!

Posted by: Hands at October 21, 2019 04:37 PM (786Ro)

5 Ah, a triple play.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:37 PM (Y4EXg)

6 Yo !

Posted by: Yo! at October 21, 2019 04:37 PM (1XAal)

7 regulative fiction ... the Narrative

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:38 PM (G546f)

8 Go Trump, go!

Posted by: Yo! at October 21, 2019 04:38 PM (1XAal)

9 More like Italican, Hands. LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:38 PM (Y4EXg)

10 socks!

Posted by: Pietro Delenda at October 21, 2019 04:39 PM (786Ro)

11 ITALICS UBER ALLES!

Posted by: wte9 at October 21, 2019 04:39 PM (xYr9U)

12 Ace, the term you're looking for is "Myth of Legitimacy." It's the story the elites tell that justifies their elitism. In early civilizations they were connected to the gods; later they had a mandate of some kind from heaven or from the people; then our modern masters' myth of legitimacy was The Competent People, the ones who would handle things so we wouldn't be troubled by a complex world.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 21, 2019 04:39 PM (RD7QR)

13 That blake guy should comment more.

Posted by: Not blake nope - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 04:39 PM (qC1Sy)

14 the self appointed Elite, like Pierre Eldicto, are full of insecurity and fear
they are superstitious and ritualistic
always fearing the inevitable revolution

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:40 PM (G546f)

15 You say the word "shelf" and bingo

new thread

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 04:40 PM (rpxSz)

16 Mark and Molly - even better than the "old" Hemmingways.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at October 21, 2019 04:40 PM (xptlg)

17 Why thank you, not blake nope.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 04:40 PM (qC1Sy)

18 top

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 21, 2019 04:40 PM (8D42x)

19 Norms!

Posted by: Gang at Cheers at October 21, 2019 04:40 PM (Izzlo)

20 The special people learn they are not that special.

Washington is a middle school. They need to be grounded.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Fall In To Frantic Frenzies at The Outrage Outlet! at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (3tDBG)

21 Only amid the ashes of Trump's destruction do sober and judicious conservative intellectuals, writers, pundits, think-tankers, and establishment Republican grandees believe they can step in to rebirth the Republican Phoenix

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Someone ought to remind them that conservativism, in its most basic form, entails conserving what is good in the traditional order, and by allowing socialists to overturn the constitution, there will be nothing left to conserve.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (YslsA)

22 Duh. Yes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (JCrfD)

23 always fearing the inevitable revolution
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book!

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By their actions against us they damn near guarantee it.

Interesting, No?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (Y4EXg)

24 I sold a lot of Mark McGwire rookie cards to kids - those should be worth enough to super size your value meal now.

Posted by: Don West at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (oZ6kz)

25 1 FIST!
Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:36 PM (Y4EXg)

I'm listed

rhymes huh ?

Posted by: Rachel Madcow at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (rpxSz)

26 All in accordance with the prophecy.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (JUOKG)

27 I dunno. Articles like this seem to me to just be way overthinking it.

The Resistance is about raw power and the loss of it, and the attempt to get it back. One sentence with no unspellable philosophers or any of that crap.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 04:42 PM (1XNk8)

28 Good points by Mollie's hubby. But I really hate terms like "Trump era" or the even-worse "age of Trump" or the worst-of-all "in Trump's America... (insert criticism here)"

Is it just me or are these terms only used under GOP presidents? I don't recall an "age of Clinton" or "the Obama era" or "Carter's America." Was that ever used?

Posted by: Pietro Delenda at October 21, 2019 04:42 PM (786Ro)

29 the Elites are useless breathers

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:43 PM (G546f)

30 Always had a thing for Jewish girls

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 04:43 PM (rpxSz)

31 All in accordance with the prophecy.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 21, 2019 04:41 PM (JUOKG)

Walk without rhythm, and you won't attract a worm ...

Posted by: Fatboy Slim at October 21, 2019 04:43 PM (LPnfS)

32 Eh. Everybody tells themselves what they want to hear.

Posted by: Hansel at October 21, 2019 04:44 PM (B1huf)

33 Question: Do you have to wear magic underwear to be in the elite's club?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 21, 2019 04:44 PM (so+oy)

34 >>I think voters in no small part voted for Trump because they were sick of being told rosy stories about how the government operates.

At the most basic level, Trump refises to use their language.

They scoff at his simpleton vocabulary, or brand it a "hate" and white nationalism, but. . . he says abortion is killing a baby, not "reproductive health." He says illegal immigration is law-breaking and that it is mostly criminals, not "dreamers."

He slays their myths ever time he uses plain, descriptive language in place of the agreed upon euphemisms.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2019 04:44 PM (bDqIh)

35 Now to read the content

Posted by: Hands at October 21, 2019 04:45 PM (786Ro)

36 Is it just me or are these terms only used under GOP presidents? I don't recall an "age of Clinton" or "the Obama era" or "Carter's America." Was that ever used?
Posted by: Pietro Delenda at October 21, 2019 04:42 PM (786Ro)

What, never heard of the
Obamanation?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 21, 2019 04:45 PM (1g7ch)

37 "Carter's America." Was that ever used?

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I'm not sure if that was the official title, but I do recall gasoline lines, thermostats set to barely heat a house, and crawling along an interstate at 55 mph.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 21, 2019 04:45 PM (YslsA)

38 This Mark fellow is astute and erudite, also likely amazingly virile sexually.

Posted by: Marge 'Amy' Whink at October 21, 2019 04:45 PM (oZ6kz)

39 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 04:45 PM (Zz0t1)

40 "Carter's America." Was that ever used?

'Carter Country' was a sitcom with Victor French.

Posted by: Hansel at October 21, 2019 04:46 PM (B1huf)

41 Sock derp.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 04:46 PM (B1huf)

42 Love Nietzsche, hate the conclusions.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 04:46 PM (HALdu)

43 There may be some truth to this, but I think we can all agree that Mitt Romney was and remains a truly fantastic leader, a smart, principled man of action, a cut above the rest. We are lucky to have him around to help us along.

Posted by: Pedro Culpa at October 21, 2019 04:46 PM (h5TKJ)

44 Factional Fictions.

Posted by: Surfperch at October 21, 2019 04:46 PM (KCruE)

45 Thanks Ace. I am thinking our public institutions are not the problem, but our quality of citizenry, from elites on down, has really gone down hill. Easy life, poor education, yes those are all factors, but the real problem is the weak-assed unwillingness to forcibly oust evil leftists from polite society. One example: Bill Ayers should still be asking for parole and not spending a rich pension every year. More pertinent examples are people Lois Lernor, Jim Comey or Andrew McCabe.

If Bill Barr lets these people get off, or slaps them around a little without real and serious penalties (should Brennan face a firing squad? Inquiring minds want to know...), well then I mourn for future Americans. This is tough stuff to resolve but we need to fucking man-up.

Posted by: Candy Crowley, Moderator and Still Debating Champ! at October 21, 2019 04:47 PM (NVYyb)

46 What about the baseball card store though?

Posted by: Tradd at October 21, 2019 04:47 PM (GSJcT)

47 These aholes are nullifying my ballot. They will tote a asswhupin' for this crap.

Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2019 04:47 PM (UUkQp)

48 The Resistance is about raw power and the loss of
it, and the attempt to get it back. One sentence with no unspellable
philosophers or any of that crap.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 04:42 PM (1XNk

It's more than that, it is a psychological wound, a grave insult that needs to be replied to. That's where the real rage is coming from, a sense of worth that has been shown to be false. People can stand most anything but not a threat to their psychological base, their sense of self-worth.

Pride and wounded vanity and all of that fuels the insanity.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Fall In To Frantic Frenzies at The Outrage Outlet! at October 21, 2019 04:47 PM (3tDBG)

49 I dunno. Articles like this seem to me to just be way overthinking it.

The Resistance is about raw power and the loss of it, and the attempt to get it back. One sentence with no unspellable philosophers or any of that crap.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 04:42 PM (1XNk

I think from the democrat side, you're right.

but from "our" side, proven time and again to not actually BE on our side, i think it's probably fairly close to correct. there's some interesting points to it at least.

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (8D42x)

50 All aspects of the mythos are designed to, or by happy accident, identify problems (or fictionalized, simplified versions of problems) which the Ruling Caste is uniquely able to solve,

Except they can't. And don't. Look at all the blue shit holes.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (FTf+m)

51 This is a very good piece, full of insight. This exactly describes what I've been watching with amazement for several days, the absolute Outrage that all Right-Thinking People are expressing about Syria - even though the situation is being resolved without much fighting, with few atrocities, with NO American Casualties, and with wide support from the American People.

And yet the response is OUTRAGE!!!! Why? Because to do it, he had to violate the "regulative fiction" (operating Mythology) of what we're doing in the Middle East. Not to mention upsetting a bunch of pork barrel applecarts.

I realized Sunday that to make the critics case, one had to assume that it was in America's Interest to guarantee a a strip of Syrian land to a small faction of Kurds, to the point that we would physically Go To War against Turkey, even though Turkey's primary goal was to provide a space for Syrian refugees to go back to Syria, and also noting that the Kurds had no real claim to the land themselves.

I suppose it makes sense if you think it's outrageous to ask Mexican refugees to ever go back to Mexico.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (Kpl3J)

52 Pull my peeny.

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (sWM8x)

53 I've had thoughts along similar lines: that Trump is the rectification of names. The language that we use to describe the world no longer matches reality, and the professional class knows this. In fact, they count on it. Trump is an attempt by the voters to bring how we describe the world and how it actually is back into alignment, and that terrifies the professional class.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (SgjGX)

54 People I know that admitted to being Trump voters in 2016 did so because politicians were making a mess of the country and they thought that maybe a business man would do a better job of running the show.

He has.

The politicians will NEVER forgive him for that.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (9GFP4)

55 Everybody tells themselves what they want to hear."

Indeed. This is the tale of "jargon" or "insider language" - it's how groups monitor membership and build their own origin story.

In short, our "elites" ... aren't.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (6qErC)

56 Speaking of voters....the stupid doesn't stop at the 49th parallel....

WSJ Story on Canuckistan's election:

"Jenny Rodrigues, a Toronto communications professional, said she voted for the New Democrats because she was impressed with party leader Jagmeet Singh and his support for diversity. "

Jenny, honey, any idea what his position is on say, I dunno...taxes? Trade? No, I guess none of that matters. But his skin color is correct so he gets your vote. Awesome!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (FiUMj)

57 >>The Resistance is about raw power and the loss of it, and the attempt to get it back. One sentence with no unspellable philosophers or any of that crap.

I think it's bigger than that because it is happening elsewhere, such as in the UK with Brexit, or in Poland where their leaders are refusing to submit to the EU's demands. The Western world's governing class, made up of a lot of global elitists, has gone to far. People are waking up and fighting back. And in response, these bureaucrats and political leaders are shocked the usual tricks to calm and control the masses aren't working.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2019 04:49 PM (bDqIh)

58 all I know is I want to remove all their thumbs

or so they can understand: digital redistribution synergistics

Posted by: x at October 21, 2019 04:49 PM (nFwvY)

59 43
There may be some truth to this, but I think we can all agree that Mitt
Romney was and remains a truly fantastic leader, a smart, principled man
of action, a cut above the rest. We are lucky to have him around to
help us along.

Posted by: Pedro Culpa at October 21, 2019 04:46 PM (h5TKJ)

I find your take refreshing and honest.

Posted by: Juan Desperado at October 21, 2019 04:49 PM (3tDBG)

60 Next election only those who own a Louis Vuitton item will be allowed to vote

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:49 PM (G546f)

61
"Jenny Rodrigues, a Toronto communications professional, said she voted for the New Democrats because she was impressed with party leader Jagmeet Singh and his support for diversity. "

'Diversity,' the top value of retards.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 04:50 PM (B1huf)

62 Pfister? I hardly KNEW er......

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 04:50 PM (Zz0t1)

63 Hemingways are better when they stick to pointing out the obvious stuff, which for some reason is treated as revelatory. And wow these youngsters have really inhaled the Koolaid on certain topics just before their time. All decry the brainwashing and lies of the media but reflect much of it in what they "think".

And over-determined but that's what these folks do for a gig, so whatever.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 21, 2019 04:50 PM (QDnY+)

64 Next election only those who own a Louis Vuitton item will be allowed to vote
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:49 PM (G546f)

not so fast there, depends upon the item, the low brow stuff the chavs wear is not eligible for voting.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 04:50 PM (HALdu)

65 How dare the little people have control of their lives!

Posted by: G marks the spot at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (Fmkqn)

66 In the end, they detest a democratic republic and the ability of common people to pick our president. They want a person of their choosing who represents their opinion, not the ignorant peasants. They're just fine with an allusion of democracy, where the rules are only for one side. They want a feudal system, where they play the role of authoritarian. They are everything the Founders and Framers fought against, in the flesh, and every last one of them should be hung to discourage future attempts to steal our liberty. See the banner at the top of this page.

Posted by: Pierre Suckdickto at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (8ts9m)

67 Always had a thing for Jewish girls
Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 04:43 PM (rpxSz)

Went on a date with a Jewish girl once. She had big boobs. I never saw em, much to my chagrin.

Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (Zz0t1)

68 Personally I'm thinking of sharpening the pitchfork because I'm really getting tired of Nevers even more than Leftists.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 04:52 PM (ZCEU2)

69 That post is a tough read. God darnit Mr. Ace, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.

Posted by: Dingbat at October 21, 2019 04:52 PM (MXaJk)

70 This mythos just coincidentally also happens to justify why they
are the only ones Fit to Rule. All aspects of the mythos are designed
to, or by happy accident, identify problems (or fictionalized,
simplified versions of problems) which the Ruling Caste is uniquely able to solve

Like the 2001 Salt Lake Olympics, bitchez.

Posted by: Pieers Delickto at October 21, 2019 04:52 PM (6IpEX)

71 Meanwhile New Jersey has decided to remind all the serfs that pumpkins used for Halloween decorations must be taxed. But if you eat it, the pumpkin is tax free.

What if a squirrel eats a rotting and fermenting Halloween pumpkin? Will it still be taxed?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 04:52 PM (xcJZI)

72 98% of Louis Vutton bags are fake.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (FiUMj)

73 Went on a date with a Jewish girl once. She had big boobs. I never saw em, much to my chagrin.
Posted by: Sponge at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (Zz0t1)

Iz OK

I got you covered

I'm married to one now, at least for a little while

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (rpxSz)

74 It's clear that only Mitt Romney can bridge this divide!

Posted by: Dieter Destructo, man of mystery at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (RD7QR)

75 Jenny Rodrigues, a Toronto communications professional,"

Who, if the searches are to be believed, is bigly into "who she is" and "her truths" n' such.

Yeah, "western" civilization is mort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (6qErC)

76 The arrogant grifters, trapped in their cognitive dissonance (especially post Trump's election) -- find a home in TheNarrative ... the Regulative Fiction -- the old promise that "you shall be like god, knowing right from wrong and overseeing the kingdoms of the world.

the Inside The Beltway Dreams ... the Mecca from which all true insight emanates ... the Hinterland Deplorables can't possibly comprehend how the virtuous look out from them from on high. The saints of DC roam amongst the Monuments, absorbing DeepThoughts from the marble (phallic) Washington Monument.

How Dare You (in Greta tone) question their service, their purity ... they have been to the mountain ... they have seen things ... they have given so much ... (puke, spit ... hang em high, den of thieves, swamp of iniquity)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (Cus5s)

77 72 98% of Louis Vutton bags are fake.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker

so are 98% of Dem voters

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (G546f)

78 Thanks for ridding me of that troll in the previous thread. I already don't feel good and I woke up on the wrong side of the floor this morning, so you probably saved me from getting myself banned again by lighting into a troll.
Thanks again, oh ye Wielder of the Great Banhammer

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (HaL55)

79 "Jenny Rodrigues, a Toronto communications professional,eh"...

Fixed.

Posted by: Pieers Delickto at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (6IpEX)

80 Judging by the comments from our friends and fam, Victor's a little closer to the truth than Mark. They were on the Arc of History bandwagon--globalist secular utopia--and Trump represents a threat to their dream. They are all the children of Imagine.

Posted by: Caliban at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (qEujL)

81 "I think voters in no small part voted for Trump because they were sick of being told rosy stories about how the government operates."

That's certainly true. I'd come to the point where it was obvious that no matter how cynical you were about government (especially Federal government), you weren't cynical enough. And not enough by a long shot.

And that was the primary reason I voted Trump with enthusiasm. It was a "F*** ALL of you. You and your machine sucks and apparently has since before I was born. I've never experienced competent, uncorrupted government in my life and no matter what Trump does, it'll be better than I've ever experienced."

Trump was SMOD. And by the looks of the D.C. Deep State, academia, MFM, etc. response to him, he really is SMOD because he's blowing up all the fiefdoms just by continuing to expose them.

Trump needs 40 years to undo all that has been done.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (6eEQ+)

82 72 98% of Louis Vutton bags are fake.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (FiUMj)

If they're take

they aint LV

100% of fake LV bags are fake

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (rpxSz)

83 16 Mark and Molly - even better than the "old" Hemmingways.

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Any relation to Margaux?

Posted by: Pete Seria at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (7ZQe3)

84 At some point, hoping Bill Barr does his job is the kind of thinking that got us here in the first place. It would be nice, but by no means necessary, or even expected. Did anyone expect British governors to offer redress for far less vicious crimes in colonial America? Course not.

Yet you can't begin talking about legitimacy without noting that only the relentless and total suppression of speech online- functional monopoly- keeps the whole scam from completely imploding on itself. Speech in America is about as free as in Iran. More: Twitter even has the temerity to silence the President.

Not only does this silence normal people, it is a disturbing corroboration of the claim that a tiny minority have a monopoly over American media. The act of suppression justifies actual white supremacist propaganda, and pushes white Americans closer in that direction.

Posted by: trev006 at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (Zp6dW)

85 So is this communications professional an all gussied up hussy?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (xcJZI)

86 Coastal elites freak out because us flyover hicks took back the country..

Ace and my betters say it a lot purtier though!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (so+oy)

87 82 72 98% of Louis Vutton bags are fake.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (FiUMj)

If they're take

they aint LV

100% of fake LV bags are fake
Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (rpxSz)

___

Errrr OK.
98% of bags that appear to be LV are fake.
Happy now?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (FiUMj)

88 "Jenny Rodrigues, a Toronto communications professional,eh"...

She's a Korean Canadian with a Spanish last name.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (B1huf)

89 I woke up on the wrong side of the floor this morning,

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM (HaL55)

you woke up on the ceiling?
do you live in Australia?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (G546f)

90 Meanwhile New Jersey has decided to remind all the serfs that pumpkins
used for Halloween decorations must be taxed. But if you eat it, the
pumpkin is tax free.
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What if you just want to fuck it?

Posted by: Jersey Pumpkin Fucker at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (WrMOC)

91 Gah, I have Things To Say about this and shall when I get home.

Suffice it to say, yes, yes, yes, a trillion times yes to the regulative fiction notion. Attach that to the psychological need to protect one's view of self and the tendency of all animals to lash out when backed into a corner and here we are.

Except, you know, presume I'm saying that with all kinds of philosophical jargon and smart sounds.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 04:55 PM (mf5HN)

92 What's a Heming weigh?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (B1huf)

93 Like the 2001 Salt Lake Olympics"

Que?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (6qErC)

94 Show me one Blue city or one idea the Democrats have that is either an example of their superior ideas or intellectually sound.

There are none, and not only are they wrong and dishonest, they are delusional.

Posted by: Pierre Suckdickto at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (8ts9m)

95 Yes, our DC mandarins, and the folks that understood how to bribe or manipulate them are very unhappy that we the people elected DJT to roll back some of the insane labyrinth of government regulations and programs so that ordinary folks who can't buy a few senators and aides to craft carve-outs can have a reasonably equal chance at success as the self anointed 'elites'.

I disdain them, but I also know that the cornered rat can be a vicious fighter.

Posted by: paleRider is simply irredeemable at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (eASYU)

96 This mythos just coincidentally also happens to justify why they are the only ones Fit to Rule.

Alternate Headline: The Divine Right of Kings

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (zKN+K)

97 So when Hillary said deplorables she meant untermenschen?

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (HALdu)

98 I think attorneys have this same type of incoherent language called Byzantine legalize that keeps them employed. The political deep state language is an off shoot since most politicians are lawyers.

It's a fact. Google it .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (9YKBM)

99 He notes that the current project of the beltway priests maintaining belief in their increasingly-bizarre mythos is to paint Trump as a clown who shouldn't be supported, so that their religion has no loud, popular apostate challenging it.
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This is a very excellent post, Ace.

And their mythos is, fundamentally, "the government is a force for good and we run it as a priestly class for the benefit of our flocks." Trump is a heretic - as you say, an apostate - who is blowing their theology wide open. They aren't competent. They aren't helpful. They aren't good. The state is not a force for a good.

Conservatives remember that last point. The professional conservatives - the ones *in* the ruling class - have forgotten it or, more likely, never believed it.

Government operations should be a lot like how the Left used to describe abortion: "minimal, constitutional and rare" should be the underlying force of state action - not "the most good for most people" or "helping save people from themselves" or "maintaining my position because the rubes are too stupid to know that I ought to be where I am" or whatever else is worming its way through their high-density skulls.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (I2dne)

100
Or - they are all corrupt and venal criminals who love power sexually, and view the people having a voice of any kind as a direct threat to the wildly successful shell-game they've been running, and will fight tooth-and-nail to protect their grift, even if it means ripping this country down to its foundations.

And that there is no epistemological component whatsoever.

If there is a Nietzschean component to this, it's the will to power, and nothing more, IMO.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (AzW6q)

101 98% of Louis Vutton bags are fake.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 04:53 PM (FiUMj)

And they don't even sell the fake ones to the idiotic hicks at Wal-Mart!

Posted by: Some Smug Elite on Twitter at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (KCruE)

102 'Carter Country' was a sitcom with Victor French.

Carter's Country has a couple of nice gun shops in Houston.

Posted by: DanMan at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (XTiHL)

103 "I think voters in no small part voted for Trump because they were sick of being told rosy stories about how the government operates."

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

---

Yep. Further, he talks like us. I think he gained a fair number of votes recently by saying "Bullshit" at a rally and that crack about Biden kissing Obummer's ass.

SWIDT?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (Y4EXg)

104 I'm constantly being cautioned by my contemporaries that stuff is "too complicated" to make others understand.
However, "I think the term "regulative fiction" is misleading" as do I but I also think that this mythology, fiction, whatever is born out of global leftism/communism. It's being funded and pushed, and as Cass Sunstein said, can be accomplished by nudges here and nudges there.

I don't think that the deep state/whoever are being motivated by ideology, they're motivated by money. The money is available to them from the the high Left whether it's the Chinese, Soros, or other illumanati who also have monetary stake/power tied up in redistributionist collectivism.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (nRWPy)

105 ¡En fuego™!

Posted by: That Guy Who Shouts "¡En fuego!™" at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (DMUuz)

106 Alternate Headline: The Divine Right of ~~Kings~~Cucks

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 21, 2019 04:56 PM (zKN+K)

fify

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (G546f)

107 Another word for the "regulative fiction" or "mythos" would be "narrative".

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (CPk08)

108 Tulsi gabbard is now getting the same treatment they gave to trump. The deep state, military industrial complex and their running dogs in the media supported war monger corrupt crook clinton. Now they support qud pro quo joe. I and many others voted for jill stein as we would never vote for a clinton.

Posted by: raimondo at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (yDMgg)

109 Except, you know, presume I'm saying that with all kinds of philosophical jargon and smart sounds."

"Smaht", dahling.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (6qErC)

110
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (I2dne)

I will call you later.

I am clear to go to TN.

Will have to be Saturday, not Friday.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (AzW6q)

111 "She's a Korean Canadian with a Spanish last name."

Imagine how much she hates white people!

Posted by: Chris M at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (eAZVt)

112
Errrr OK.
98% of bags that appear to be LV are fake.
Happy now?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
.....

77% of Americans strongly agree!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (so+oy)

113 It's a shame the People's republic of New Jersey isn't ready to split off the continent, but the next best thing if your there is get out now.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (ZCEU2)

114 Bleg: who was the 'ette selling the Deployable, Deplorable Veteran's For Trump shirts?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (Kyj0g)

115 *adds in colorful metaphors for the Empress since she is pressed for time.*

Things like a barb-wired wrapped flaming cock of Shaitan that is also encrusted with glass being repeatedly shoved up Cucky Pierre's sanctimonious pie hole.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (xcJZI)

116 97
So when Hillary said deplorables she meant untermenschen?

Posted by: not so

Untermenschen, zeks, logs (Unit 731): it's not a new concept. Hillary isn't that creative.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (T6t7i)

117 Piss off, racist foreign retard.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (zKN+K)

118 And they don't even sell the fake ones to the idiotic hicks at Wal-Mart!
Posted by: Some Smug Elite on Twitter at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (KCruE)

You need somali guys with a box of designer bags standing on the street corner, the fake bags are not sold inside.

by the way, for an extra five bucks the guy will sell you the fake name tag too.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (HALdu)

119 I don't think that the deep state/whoever are being motivated by ideology, they're motivated by money.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (nRWPy)

If this was true in the free market sense, Fox wouldn't be trying to gut major personalities in favor of Ben Shapiro and (until recently) Shep Smith.

Posted by: trev006 at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (Zp6dW)

120 So Pelosi went to Jordan and then Afghanistan? WTF for?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (O2RFr)

121 it's the will to power"

Oh, baby I love your way...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (6qErC)

122 "She's a Korean Canadian with a Spanish last name."

But what are xer pronouns?

Posted by: mikeyG at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (6IpEX)

123 raimondo is the warmest, kindest, bravest man I have ever known!

Posted by: Dieter Destructo, man of mystery at October 21, 2019 05:00 PM (RD7QR)

124 David Brooks something something taking a "rube" to a NYC sandwich shop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 21, 2019 05:00 PM (ptqGC)

125 Walk without rhythm, and you won't attract a worm ...

Posted by: Fatboy Slim at October 21, 2019 04:43 PM (LPnfS)

Great song.

https://youtu.be/wCDIYvFmgW8

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 05:00 PM (jYnPD)

126 Honestly, why do you think they want to take away your guns, subvert the courts, steal your wealth, decide if you live or die and flood the country with ignorant people dependent on government for almost everything?

Maybe it's not for love of country or that they possess superior ideas. Its that they want to rule over you.

Posted by: Pierre Suckdickto at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (8ts9m)

127 I'd come to the point where it was obvious that no matter how cynical you were about government (especially Federal government), you weren't cynical enough. And not enough by a long shot.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at October 21, 2019 04:54 PM

You are far too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (DMUuz)

128 he is trying and often succeeding to restore a conservative America at a
time when his opponents thought that the mere idea was not just
impossible but unhinged.
***

Give me the choice between 1989 America and 2019 America and I know which one I would pick...which I think is true for the vast majority of legacy Americans as well.

The question is....how do we prevail against everything the current governing class has aligned against us?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (WdocV)

129 In my professional world I interact almost exclusively with liberals. A lot of them really truly believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (FiUMj)

130 Government is just the things we do to you together.

Posted by: God's Annointed at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (zKN+K)

131 114 Bleg: who was the 'ette selling the Deployable, Deplorable Veteran's For Trump shirts?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (Kyj0g)

it was on my zazzle - check my nuc

act fast, zazzle is already threatening to pull my Trump eagle seal for "copyright reasons"
aholes

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (G546f)

132 I don't think that the deep state/whoever are being motivated by ideology, they're motivated by money.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 04:57 PM (nRWPy)
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I don't think so, at least not universally. Clinton might be - she's a gangster's gangster.

Most of them, I think, are motivated by money only insofar as they don't want to be poor or "working-class." A lot of these people probably don't earn more than a good plumber, but they feel better about their modest means because of the *status* that they get. And the power.

I think it is far more about belonging to the elite (status) and being able to impose their will (power) than it is about wealth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (I2dne)

133 So when Hillary said deplorables she meant untermenschen?

Posted by: not so

Untermenschen, zeks, logs (Unit 731): it's not a new concept. Hillary isn't that creative.
Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (T6t7i)

sure, but untermenschen is so much more meaningful than deplorables

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (HALdu)

134 Carter's Country has a couple of nice gun shops in Houston."

Oui. And a decent outdoor range off of 1960 (not far from IAH)

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (6qErC)

135 "I and many others voted for jill stein as we would never vote for a clinton."

We'll have you voting for Trump by next November. The Democrat Party are all scumbags!

Posted by: Chris M at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (eAZVt)

136 I don't think this requires a lot of over thinking or deep analysis.

The establishment in both parties as well as the media whores and lobbyists and other assorted human remoras don't want anyone screwing around with the rigged game they created where even people who lose power get wonderful partying gifts in the lobbying and media space pandering to the ruling class or doing business with them.

Trump is screwing with them in a way they never thought possible. They don't like it. And he is threatening to end the game once and for all.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (ZLI7S)

137 I think it is far more about belonging to the elite
(status) and being able to impose their will (power) than it is about
wealth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

You are correct, sir.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (T6t7i)

138 They want a feudal system, where they play the role of authoritarian. They are everything the Founders and Framers fought against, in the flesh, and every last one of them should be hung to discourage future attempts to steal our liberty. See the banner at the top of this page.
Posted by: Pierre Suckdickto at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (8ts9m)

They are masters of the people who enjoy time amongst the serfs. A good time for UniParty is to spend a weekend on Epstein Island with the middle class, or on a friday night at Ed Buck's place to spend some time with young homeless men, or just pick up your niece at Applebee's.
Not UniParty Mitt though, too stoic, the best time he ever has is sending a couple of guards down to fuck a random villager, whether she wants it or not.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (1g7ch)

139 Honestly, why do you think they want to take away your guns
***

This right here is the one that should terrify anyone paying attention.

The governing class wants to disarm you for the same reason the British government did in 1775.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (WdocV)

140 They sell fakes cause peeps want fakes

If you know LV or Rolex or etc, you can literally spot it with your eyes shut

bought my first vintage LV steamer trunk in 1966

Paid like $60 bucks for it

omg, wish I could have bought more

Posted by: REDACTED at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (rpxSz)

141 "Jenny Rodrigues, a Toronto communications professional,eh"...

Fixed.

I would like to find some information on the election in Canada, but can't seem to find much except for places such as Wapo which I refuse to go on.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (j0JAA)

142 The fact that the NeverTrumpers truly believe that after either 8 years of Trump--or 8 years of a Democrat Socialist--the Bush/McCain/Romney will return to prominence tells you all you need to know how deluded they are.
They are also unfit to lead.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (NFEMn)

143 Besides the McCain and Romney votes, I'd like to take back most defenses we made of George W. Bush. All the shit we took on his behalf and the fucker denigrates us?

Fuck him and his whole Deep State family.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (qAR6u)

144 Among the things I have to be thankful for, I'm adding the fact that my name isn't Jagmeet.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (sWM8x)

145 I can concede that some issues identified with the Left have resulted in balancing out some of the bad issues associated with the Right. ( mostly business practices)

Whether the issues are Right or Left is another separate debate. I like State Parks, rivers that don't catch on fire, food inspectors , etc.

The problem is the Left doesn't believe in balance. It's all or nothing.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (9YKBM)

146 Of course, I could have read the article before commenting but that's not the moron way.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (RD7QR)

147 Speaking of Epstein....anyone arrested yet? Either for assassinating him or the multitude of clients we now KNOW he had among the rich and powerful?

No?
Odd huh?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (WdocV)

148 The question is....how do we prevail against everything the current governing class has aligned against us?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (WdocV)

Just yell "I've fucking got to get to work" and act accordingly.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (aS1PU)

149 Its that they want to rule over you."

They want to rule well, tho.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (6qErC)

150 raimondo is the warmest, kindest, bravest man I have ever known!
Posted by: Dieter Destructo, man of mystery at October 21, 2019 05:00 PM

Nay, I say! Vote for Kurt!

Posted by: Pierre Trifecta at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (DMUuz)

151 Mr. Obama's Well-Creased Pant-Leg will save us!

Posted by: David Brooks, future dry-cleaner at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (Ndje9)

152 IIRC British General Gates in Boston wanted to seize the local militia arms before the Colonials could cause mischief with them.

That was his cunning plan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (xcJZI)

153 137
I think it is far more about belonging to the elite

(status) and being able to impose their will (power) than it is about

wealth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

You are correct, sir.

After all, money is just a way to be able to do the power thing. A means to an end.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (T6t7i)

154
So I'm not TOOOO late to this thread, so:

>>For a very long time before Trump, the "regulative fiction" was getting very, very discordant with reality.

I think Big Government wants to attain the same state of inaccessibility that happened in science and fine art early in the 20th century. You legitimately have to know stuff to understand the science, the art less so.

Is this also because government is so heavily populated with lawyers? God knows they love them some non-layman's vocabulary. (All moron lawyers are exceptions.)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (Xm5XV)

155 Well, this is the thing.

Trump is a flawed human being, for certain. He has his problems like we all do. But for a long time now people have been aware that the others in government are at least as flawed as he is, but are slicker about covering it up.

And if there's one thing that an American despises still, its a slick cheat. If you're up front and honest about your flaws, people tend to be ore forgiving, or at least cut you slack. But if you lie about them and cover them up, then people will despise you for it.

So continually trying to portray Trump as a flawed human being does not work. Yep, flawed. But so are you, and you're a hypocriate about it, plus you don't care about me or what I believe in or want to see done.

So the choice isn't between the noble elite and the knuckle dragging troglodyte. Its between two flawed choices, one of whom lies to me and treats me like trash.

Posted by: Mett Rumney at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (KZzsI)

156 142 The fact that the NeverTrumpers truly believe that after either 8 years of Trump--or 8 years of a Democrat Socialist--the Bush/McCain/Romney will return to prominence tells you all you need to know how deluded they are.
They are also unfit to lead.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:03 PM (NFEMn)

-----------------

It's not just a belief; it's what they want with every fiber of their being.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (qC1Sy)

157 yeah, well, it's not so much a confluence of elites or whatever, but a complete absence of oversight. The mainstream press, the ones that even the GOP pretends to accept as real news, simply ignores any story that doesn't support the present day's narrative.

We literally know nothing.

Well, not we. We're in a samizdat sort of underground. But the narrative in the real world excludes all facts not approved by CNN, even if CNN has no actual viewers. or credibility.

So, that's a bad thing.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:05 PM (FEQY4)

158 The question is....how do we prevail against everything the current governing class has aligned against us?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (WdocV)

Honestly, the minute we acknowledge that the law is used to protect the elite and not the people, their power collapses. LE agents won't be able to set foot outside blue cities without convoys: and one captured media center is all it will take to have a very strong voice for America on the public airwaves.

Their support is only ever an inch deep. Actual minorities and most urban liberals are not stepping out to get shot for Hillary.

Posted by: trev006 at October 21, 2019 05:05 PM (Zp6dW)

159 I like State Parks, rivers that don't catch on fire, food inspectors , etc."

Yeah, 'cause us rightwingers want that stuff...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:05 PM (6qErC)

160 If Hemingway's friend's analysis is correct, then the paradigm has flipped. We are now the militarized resistance, and they are the bloated prey.

Posted by: Caliban at October 21, 2019 05:05 PM (qEujL)

161 Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Small dead animals

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at October 21, 2019 05:05 PM (LOq4H)

162 A note on impeachment, discussed in the last thread:

If you would have asked me two weeks ago, I was absolutely certain that Pelosi was going to get the House to vote for Impeachment, just to embarrass the Senate candidates. She and Schiff had it all teed up.

But I will not say that today. I grossly underestimated Pelosi and Schiff's ability to totally wreck their own case, and to make themselves political laughing stocks. I did not believe they could have mishandled this as badly as they have! Instead of a groundswell of opinion, they are cultivating a bad joke - to the point that they're not even all on the same page anymore. Example: today there's an article on Politico about how Schumer is worried that "Trump is going to reveal the whistleblower illegally!!!" (psst Chuck, it's a former NSC analyst named Eric Ciamarella, there, I saved Trump the trouble)

And yet over in the House, Schiff has stopped mentioning the "Whistleblower" completely, and has dropped all plans to have him testify. Because oops, any questioning will reveal that it was all just a deep state op from the start.

It should have been easy to fabricate something to justify at least a House vote on Impeachment - but Schiff and Pelosi are so incompetent that they have even screwed that part up. (meanwhile Nadler is just back to packing his piehole full of food 24/7)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:05 PM (Kpl3J)

163 Another example of how deluded the NeverTrumpers are is the fact that they double and triple and quadruple down on their insanity every time the occasion arises.
To wit, Jonah's utterly pathetic tweet about how proud he is that Mitt follows him as a sock.

Deranged.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (NFEMn)

164 We have a political model- representative democracy that doesn't fully comport with our actual political rule - wilsonian rule by experts. We can't fire them (yet) and they haven't successfully replaced us (yet). But when the logjam breaks...

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (87EdW)

165 and now we have Romney. What the fuck happened in 2012? How did we get the most anti-republicans since...McCain...to run as our president?

Thanks, media.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (FEQY4)

166 129 In my professional world I interact almost exclusively with liberals. A lot of them really truly believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (FiUMj)

Yes, my coworkers are almost exclusively leftist. I'm deep in political taqqiya here and I'm okay with that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (RD7QR)

167 They want a feudal system, where they play the role of authoritarian. They are everything the Founders and Framers fought against, in the flesh, and every last one of them should be hung to discourage future attempts to steal our liberty. See the banner at the top of this page.
Posted by: Pierre Suckdickto at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (8ts9m)

They are masters of the people who enjoy time amongst the serfs. A good time for UniParty is to spend a weekend on Epstein Island with the middle class, or on a friday night at Ed Buck's place to spend some time with young homeless men, or just pick up your niece at Applebee's.
Not UniParty Mitt though, too stoic, the best time he ever has is sending a couple of guards down to fuck a random villager, whether she wants it or not.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 21, 2019 05:02 PM (1g7ch)

The worst of it is that those that want to return to feudalism are too stupid to realize that there are not enough slots in the aristocracy to accommodate everyone on their side.

Everyone in America has some affinity for royalty because the assume that if they lived in a country with royalty they would be royalty. Americans never ever consider that they might be serfs.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (HALdu)

168 hey vmom! how about updating the design where deplorable is also crossed out, with "Despicable" above the first two?

i need to refresh my first, and would def buy two of the new.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (Kyj0g)

169 Either for assassinating him or the multitude of clients we now KNOW he had among the rich and powerful?

Yeah funny how that trial and all the cases associated with it seem to have disappeared. Remember when they were all busted even if he didn't make it to trial, how they were going after a bunch of people and it was going to be a Really Big Deal?

I dunno, maybe it still is, maybe there's a lot on the horizon but nobody is talking about it.

Posted by: Mett Rumney at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (KZzsI)

170 I like State Parks, rivers that don't catch on fire, food inspectors , etc."

___

We had state parks, rivers that don't catch on fire and food inspectors 30 years ago, when spending was 1/2 what it is today.

Weird huh?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (FiUMj)

171 113 It's a shame the People's republic of New Jersey isn't ready to split off the continent, but the next best thing if your there is get out now.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 04:58 PM (ZCEU2)

Dear New Jersey people who vote Democrat over and over.

You'll love the weather in California. Florida is icky and humid.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (qAR6u)

172 what impeachment. There's no vote, just words mumbled by pelosi that have no legal meaning. Schiff is so worthless, he can't even produce a witness. or evidence.

instead, he accidentally killed Biden's 2020 hopes.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (FEQY4)

173 I tried the tell you guys Mittens was an ass!!

Posted by: Mittens' Car Roof Dog at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (ptqGC)

174 VDH is a teacher of the classics. The Ancients. I wonder how painful it is to him, above the regular Joes, to see all this play out again. And again. And again.

Posted by: Jmel at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (OeWgo)

175 Fake Romney sock off

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (KZzsI)

176 So who have the Democrats appointed and anointed to take over Elijah Cummings' graft and corruption racket?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (xcJZI)

177 but Schiff and Pelosi are so incompetent that they have even screwed that part up"

Indeed. They can't help themselves, so what they said was never going to happen. Ever.

Ignore the words, watch the works.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (6qErC)

178 I like State Parks, rivers that don't catch on fire, food inspectors , etc

Forty years ago we had those things. And the notion of the current left would have been considered a bad joke by most politically active liberals let alone the population as a whole.

So why don't we try to jettison everything the government has done since 1989 or so and start over....

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (WdocV)

179 Now are state parks are full of human scat
and so are our rivers
progress!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (G546f)

180 In my professional world I interact almost exclusively with liberals. A lot of them really truly believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (FiUMj)

Yup. Spot on. And if they mention that in front of me, I blast them like they have never been blasted before. Thus I get invited to less and less functions and save a ton of money

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (cEsBM)

181

The America that was created by the Founding Fathers is still there, as enduring as ever.

The why--Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights--that which is inalienable for ALL, and the Constitution--the blueprint that defines the most unique political system ever devised, ALL remain.

A great deal of it has been obscured and fouled by the filth laid over it by the left. Needs cleansing.

That process (which I believe is commencing) will be a tough, possibly bloody affair.

Exactly what the process will be, I can't say, so I guess we're just doomed to experience it as it happens.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (KATBx)

182 "Their fluency gives them gives them a patina of legitimacy and not a little power over the less fluent, which comforts some normies but also drives conspiratorial thinking."

That, and, you know, the fact that they are also engaging in actual conspiracies.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (Ndje9)

183 Perhaps it's time I reached across the isle and had a privet meeting with Mitt.

Posted by: TOXICALLY MASCULINE CORY BOOKER at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (lMn1U)

184 Every internet conversation eventually:

Con: I want lower taxes

Lib: Yeah well move to Somalia where there is no govt and no taxes you should be really happy

They are all 6 year olds at heart.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (FiUMj)

185 I dunno, maybe it still is, maybe there's a lot on the horizon but nobody is talking about it.

Posted by: Mett Rumney at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (KZzsI)

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yeah, and maybe i'll be Miss America next year.

no one is going to prison, for any of this shit.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (Kyj0g)

186 Weird huh?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker

It's like voting for Police and Fire. Two things funded since the beginning, and the first thing they threaten to cut.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (LOq4H)

187 but Schiff and Pelosi are so incompetent that they have even screwed that part up

=

the fascist dems feel the need to wrap up a no-confidence vote (that will fail) in criminal patois. So instead of just saying orangemanbad and ImAnNPC, they're using fake whistle blowers to generate fake crimes.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (FEQY4)

188 So who have the Democrats appointed and anointed to take over Elijah Cummings' graft and corruption racket?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM

Last conjecture I heard, his wife was going to ~~ascend the throne~~ be given his seat.

Posted by: Bert G at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (OMsf+)

189 "A lot of them really truly believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi."

I've decided that these people are not entirely to blame for their positions, because a) they are really stupid people b) they believe everything they hear on the 3 letter networks and c) I will still punch them in the face if they ever utter a thing where I can hear it and d) it should hurt to be that stupid.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (w7KSn)

190 A lot of them really truly believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi.

It's hard to believe that so many people have paid so little attention to the real world that they're so easily propagandized by nonsense.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (nRWPy)

191 Joe F - that might be the best reason for Nevers yet

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (ZCEU2)

192 Has any neverTrumper ever directed fire at the insane left?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

193 "These are words that only the Chief can read!"

Kirk/Trump takes the document and starts to berate them that the words are meant for all.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (xcJZI)

194 The worst of it is that those that want to return to feudalism are too stupid to realize that there are not enough slots in the aristocracy to accommodate everyone on their side."

True enough.

"Everyone in America has some affinity for royalty because the assume that if they lived in a country with royalty they would be royalty."

Who's "everyone"?

"Americans never ever consider that they might be serfs."

Got that right.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (6qErC)

195 176 So who have the Democrats appointed and anointed to take over Elijah Cummings' graft and corruption racket?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (xcJZI)
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His wife. Shocking, I know.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (sWM8x)

196 (meanwhile Nadler is just back to packing his piehole full of food 24/7)

Posted by: Tom Servo

He just kind of dropped off the face of the earth, didn't he? You'd think there would be an anomaly in Earth's gravitational field.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (T6t7i)

197 DH is a teacher of the classics. The Ancients. I wonder how painful it is to him, above the regular Joes, to see all this play out again. And again. And again.
Posted by: Jmel at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (OeWgo)

On the contrary, his training in the Classics has prepared him for this.
It's the ignorant who will be at a loss when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (NFEMn)

198 192 Has any neverTrumper ever directed fire at the insane left?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (Uu+Jp)

Of course not. That might create hard feelings with their neighbors. Can't have that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (RD7QR)

199 I've decided that these people are not entirely to blame for their positions, because a) they are really stupid people b) they believe everything they hear on the 3 letter networks

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (w7KSn)

A surprisingly large number of Americans are breathtakingly comformist. Not that I mind: we have a huge advantage in flexibility over that kind of thinking.

Posted by: trev006 at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (Zp6dW)

200 It's like voting for Police and Fire. Two things funded since the beginning, and the first thing they threaten to cut.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at October 21, 2019 05:08 PM (LOq4H)

__

And education, wither FOR THE CHILDREN bullshit year after year. Spending increases every year while test scores decrease every year. And imbecile voters never catch on.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (FiUMj)

201 Modern Society is absolutely based on untruths.

Islam is a religion of peace.
Diversity is strength
Socialism can work and wont lead to huge piles of dead bodies.
A man can be a woman just by saying so.
The fat acceptance movement.
White Supremacy/Privilege.

And they keep piling up.

Posted by: Flubber at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (PQnIX)

202 I want PDT to win in such a landslide, these weasels will all die drooling in mental hospitals and under bridges, and their names will never be uttered in polite society again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (ptqGC)

203 Perhaps it's time I reached across the isle

Guam?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (nRWPy)

204 Con: I want lower taxes

Lib: Yeah well move to Somalia where there is no govt and no taxes you should be really happy

===

right. instead the libs want the somalis to all be moved here to not pay taxes on their UN refugee welfare

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (FEQY4)

205 yeah, and maybe i'll be Miss America next year.

Will you do the swimsuit competition, red?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (j0JAA)

206 168 hey vmom! how about updating the design where deplorable is also crossed out, with "Despicable" above the first two?

i need to refresh my first, and would def buy two of the new.
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (Kyj0g)

do you mean

A.
Despicable
Deployable
Deplorable

or
B.

Despicable
~~Deployable~~
Deplorable

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (G546f)

207 They want a feudal system, where they play the role of authoritarian.
...
Posted by: Pierre Suckdickto at October 21, 2019 04:51 PM (8ts9m)
++++++++++++
This is consistent with my thoughts on it for some time. These people want to be an aristocracy - powerful without cause. The problem is that an aristocracy requires serfs.

They think they can be an aristocracy and keep the industrial civilization they like living in. They can't. It doesn't work that way.

By the time they realize this, though, it will be too late but they also won't care. As long as they remain elite aristocrat rulers, it doesn't matter. As long as their mud hut is bigger than yours and you throw tribute at them, that is all they care about and want.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (I2dne)

208
It's hard to believe that so many people have paid so little attention to the real world that they're so easily propagandized by nonsense.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (nRWPy)

__

And even worse, they're convinced that they're smarter and better informed than everyone else.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (FiUMj)

209 In addition to believing that Trump voters are Nazis there is the weird class element to the professional class voters that hate Trump, something akin to claiming that they are more sophisticated or educated than the vulgar obnoxious Trump. Who happens to have a net worth thousands of times what theirs is and to which they aspire.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (HALdu)

210 Leftist Seminaries have been brainwashing young citizens for 40 years.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (ZCEU2)

211 I'm in favor of abolishing public education

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (G546f)

212
It's the ignorant who will be at a loss when the shit hits the fan.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (NFEMn)

-------

Circle gets the square.

Those of us who bothered studying know what's coming. We're mentally, emotionally, and intellectually prepared for it.

The others are in for the shock of their fucking lives.

And that includes most of the perps in DC, who went to fancy schools and didn't absorb an iota of knowledge or wisdom.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (AzW6q)

213 It's hard to believe that so many people have paid so little attention to the real world that they're so easily propagandized by nonsense.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 05:09 PM (nRWPy)

Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (HALdu)

214 Never forget. It is us they hate. Trump is just in the way.

And they hate us because we believe in liberty, which is inconvenient to their acquisition of power.

The rest is just details.

Posted by: Thatch at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (v5Cc/)

215 >>I think the term "regulative fiction" is misleading.

A religion.

With rites, a hierarchy that brooks no question, mysteries, punishment, a folklore, binary opposition, intolerance of change, and wealth.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (XzT/D)

216 Kirk is a jerk.

Posted by: Cloud William at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (zKN+K)

217 Con: I want lower taxes

Lib: Yeah well move to Somalia where there is no govt and no taxes you should be really happy

==

well, there's also the corollary:

Me: some critique of trump

Cons: Eat shit your a stupid hillary loving retard!

I think in our defense, we're a bit worn down by 6 year old Maoist libs who can't think.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (FEQY4)

218 ... And in response, these bureaucrats and political
leaders are shocked the usual tricks to calm and control the masses
aren't working.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2019 04:49 PM (bDqIh)

_________

Well, there's nothing that a good old-fashioned World War probably couldn't fix. /only half-sarcing

Posted by: ShainS at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (D545H)

219 Pelosi went to Jordan and Afghanistan? I thought she'd be in mourning for her recently deceased brother?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)

220 As long as their mud hut is bigger than yours and you throw tribute at them, that is all they care about and want.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

And therefore get first choice of the wimmenz.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (T6t7i)

221 Perhaps it's time I reached across the isle

Guam?
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (nRWPy)
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Don't do it! You'll tip it over.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (M9b/h)

222 Somalia where there is no govt and no taxes"

Huh. So said leftists are that stupid?

'cause last I checked, most of the Horn of Africa is ruled by a mix of warlords who rule with an iron fist and take what they want.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (6qErC)

223 >>211 I'm in favor of abolishing public education
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (G546f)

Tower of Babel outcome. Absurd.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (XzT/D)

224 When Nadler shuffles off this mortal coil he'll have to be buried in a cubical casket since he's as thick and wide as he's tall.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (Uu+Jp)

225 >>We had state parks, rivers that don't catch on fire and food inspectors 30 years ago, when spending was 1/2 what it is today.

Weird huh?
- - -
I blame activists and the bureaucrat insiders who play the "sue then settle" game with them at taxpayer's expense. Years ago I read that the National Pars system paid ~ half of their budget fighting lawsuits. Just look at what activist lawsuits against PG and E have cost CA (I know, more complicated than that, but it's why they can't do basic tree branch/brush removal).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (bDqIh)

226 Nadler

Blue Meanie

Anyone seen them together?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (xcJZI)

227 209 In addition to believing that Trump voters are Nazis there is the weird class element to the professional class voters that hate Trump, something akin to claiming that they are more sophisticated or educated than the vulgar obnoxious Trump. Who happens to have a net worth thousands of times what theirs is and to which they aspire.
Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (HALdu)

___

That's all of it. And it's the Goucher College grad types that are the worst. I haven't met a lot of Ivy League deranged Trump haters. But I know a lot of Michigan or UNC types.....good schools, but not quite upper tier. They're the wanna be elites who figure hating the rubes with an intensity of 11 will give them street cred to the true elites. Meanwhile the true elites don't give a fuck.

And the funny thing is Trump went to Penn. LOL

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (FiUMj)

228 The left: Trump is removing our forces from international conflicts in the pocket of foreign countries

Also the Left: TRUMP IS A NAZI!

Also the Left: TRUMP IS CONTROLLED BY ISRAEL!

Also the Left: TRUMP IS A CHRISTIANIST LIKE IN THE HANDMAID'S TAIL!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (WdocV)

229 A religion.

With rites, a hierarchy that brooks no question, mysteries,
punishment, a folklore, binary opposition, intolerance of change, and
wealth.

Posted by: Zod

As I said earlier, they want to be Mayan priests.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

230 I'm in favor of abolishing public education
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (G546f)
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I abolished it 23 years ago in my house.

Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (M9b/h)

231 The problem is that an aristocracy requires serfs."

mouse don't serf.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (6qErC)

232 211 I'm in favor of abolishing public education
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Me too. Including universities.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (sWM8x)

233 give parents a tax breask to send their kids to Catholic or whatever school

public schools, specially in the cities, are horrific

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (G546f)

234 Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (XzT/D)

Well, I'm not really part of the hierarchy per but I'm still waiting for the wealth.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (j0JAA)

235 >>224 When Nadler shuffles off this mortal coil he'll have to be buried in a cubical casket since he's as thick and wide as he's tall.Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (Uu+Jp)

He will be reduced. His cremains will be placed inside a Rosebud matchbox.

This is known.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (XzT/D)

236 "Everyone in America has some affinity for royalty because the assume that if they lived in a country with royalty they would be royalty."

Who's "everyone"?

"Americans never ever consider that they might be serfs."

Got that right.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:10 PM (6qErC)

maybe not everyone, I do not now, however, when I was in my early years and Diana married chuck, there was some affinity for the pomp and circumstance without associating it with the underlying structure.

When you start studying history it becomes immediately apparent why it is undesirable. However when you are very young and assuming you would be royalty is it not so awful.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (HALdu)

237 Beyond the physical violence to come - and I believe it to be inevitable now - we must prepare for the rest of what will happen. They'll blatantly try to lock us out of economic activity, of course. That means we'll need parallel structures if we want to go beyond simple barter (which at first we'll be using). The law is useless, naturally, as at this point we won't be under the same laws as they are; we'll need to work out our own systems here, too, and I suggest it be more than everyone-for-themselves vigilantism if we want to build a functioning society afterwards.

One thing though, and this should be obvious by now but for too many people it isn't: Forget about a secular society. That experiment has failed. Period. It's just a question of whose religion it will be (and the Left has its own, no mistaking it). If we don't maintain that template we won't be able to rebuild anything worth living in.

Going to be ugly and interesting times. I'd be lying if I said I didn't dread it, but...oddly, I also feel a bit hopeful, which is something from me these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (AM1GF)

238 By the time they realize this, though, it will be too late but they also
won't care. As long as they remain elite aristocrat rulers, it doesn't
matter. As long as their mud hut is bigger than yours and you throw
tribute at them, that is all they care about and want.

They literally are happy with someone telling them how to live and what to do. Adulting is too hard.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (nRWPy)

239 and therefore get first choice of the wimmenz.
___

Meh, give me your sons. And the younger the better.

Posted by: The Left at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (WdocV)

240 "Charlie don't serf"

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (xcJZI)

241 222 Somalia where there is no govt and no taxes"

Huh. So said leftists are that stupid?

'cause last I checked, most of the Horn of Africa is ruled by a mix of warlords who rule with an iron fist and take what they want.

==

not much different than detroit.

anyway...this goes back to the very mature liberal talking points of 2009 about roads, bridges, teachers, and firefighters...where America was lucky that the colonists found a continent with preexisting roads, bridges, teachers, and firefighters so that they could become rich, while the stock market is basically dictated by the current population and supply of roads, bridges, teachers, and firefighters. So, basically 2008 happened not because the govt forced banks to give mortgages to illegals, but because we ran low on roads, bridges, teachers, and firefighters because Bush W wasted them in Iraq.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (FEQY4)

242 public schools, specially in the cities, are babysitters"

FIFY

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (6qErC)

243 In addition to believing that Trump voters are Nazis there is the weird class element to the professional class voters that hate Trump, something akin to claiming that they are more sophisticated or educated than the vulgar obnoxious Trump. Who happens to have a net worth thousands of times what theirs is and to which they aspire.
Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (HALdu)
+++++++++++++
I cannot be the only professional-class Trump voter. I'm not in the power class, but I am in the professional class. I suspect there are more people like me out there than we think, but there is no real way to know.

The class thing has been an undercurrent throughout the entire Trump era. During the 2016 campaign, some talking head or other was droning on about how Trump isn't the right kind of rich guy - he's what poor people think a rich guy should be like.

They were right, of course - he isn't a blue-blooded New England/Mid-Atlantic type of rich guy, or a genteel Southern type of rich guy, or a sanctimonious Silicon Valley type of rich guy. He's a brash, boastful, in-your-face rich guy. He is indeed, by their standards, the wrong kind of rich guy.

The point says a lot more about *them* than it does about Trump or his supporters, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (I2dne)

244 219
Pelosi went to Jordan and Afghanistan? I thought she'd be in mourning for her recently deceased brother?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 21, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)

What did he have on hillary?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (jYnPD)

245 as I wasn't pointing elsewhere, brett mcguirk, was having an affair with a journal reporter, gina chon, allegedly very fragante delicto, van buren's site, we meant well, has the details, that's why he removed his name from us ambassador to Iraq, now two years later, he was assigned as antii-islamic state coordinator,

Posted by: admiral marcus at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (x+C/t)

246 well, there's also the corollary:

Me: some critique of trump

Cons: Eat shit your a stupid hillary loving retard!

__

I'm with you there. I'll say something about a poll showing Trump losing on some issue and I'm a Hillary loving commie.

There is irrational behavior on both sides, for sure.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (FiUMj)

247 >>Well, I'm not really part of the hierarchy per but I'm still waiting for the wealth. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (j0JAA)

Your treasure is in heaven.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (XzT/D)

248 We know the Soviets spent a lot of effort (allegedly more than their physical military) on Psychological warfare and infiltration. This was in influence operations, spying, kompromat, infiltration, cultural sabotage ... and imo it was VERY effective. (still is)

Now we see our own FBI/CIA in a PsyOp to control our own elections, and to run a coup, "dirtying up" Trump, trying to frame him for their own crimes, using the MSM and DNC and foreign governments, and CIA assets. "TopMen" coordinated these attacks across several agencies, and across the private sector (media, Google, other sectors)

So the question is, how many of these cartel like groups are there, how many coordinate with each other, is there any hope of rooting out the rot that is the mafia that runs inside our government, and much of Europe? (and most of the non-Western world)

Hillary's "resistance" may be in the beltway cocktail party mindset ... built on that regulative fiction, but there are more seditious planners and plotters, at the highest levels, imo. Soros has direct control of his dirty empire, and maybe there is no higher level of coordination.

But the Big20 banks have overruled our own AG before ... and the crime syndicates can still run/launder billions through the banking cartel. This is a syndicate beyond just a DC mindset/fiction ... but TheNarrative may offer it all a cult like fake virtue, that their insiders cling to for comfort. The Smugness, it is Thick.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (Cus5s)

249 I think this is the explanation for atheists. For believers, it's pretty clearly good vs. evil. See: Book of Revelation

Posted by: artemis at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (AwPyG)

250 174 VDH is a teacher of the classics. The Ancients. I wonder how painful it is to him, above the regular Joes, to see all this play out again. And again. And again.
Posted by: Jmel at October 21, 2019 05:07 PM (OeWgo)

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who DO study history are doomed to helplessly stand by and watch everyone else repeat it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (Kpl3J)

251 216 Kirk is a jerk.
Posted by: Cloud William at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (zKN+K)

E plebneesta, bro.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (RD7QR)

252 Donald Trump is unprecedented in this sense:

He had to run as an American Nationalist because patriotism is no longer a given.
He had to run against the Media because, while they were always liberal, they were never this fundamentally corrupt. They are worse than Pravda during the Cold War.
He had to run against the Intel Community because we never had the FBI and CIA try to overthrow our government for Democrats before.

He's unprecedented because you broke all the precedents.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (Ndje9)

253 I'm with you there. I'll say something about a poll showing Trump losing on some issue and I'm a Hillary loving commie.

There is irrational behavior on both sides, for sure.
Posted by: Lurking Lurke

===

Eat shit your a stupid hillary loving retard!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (FEQY4)

254 He will be reduced. His cremains will be placed inside a Rosebud matchbox.

This is known.
Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (XzT/D)

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Are you kidding Zod?

His urn will be an oildrum.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (AzW6q)

255 That's all of it. And it's the Goucher College grad types that are the worst. I haven't met a lot of Ivy League deranged Trump haters. But I know a lot of Michigan or UNC types.....good schools, but not quite upper tier. They're the wanna be elites who figure hating the rubes with an intensity of 11 will give them street cred to the true elites. Meanwhile the true elites don't give a fuck.

And the funny thing is Trump went to Penn. LOL
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (FiUMj)

That is true, the ivy leaguers have some disdain for Trump but the others have contempt

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (HALdu)

256 Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

But But But socialism will work this time!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (cEsBM)

257 C:
Deployable (S/O)
Deplorable (S/O)
Despicable

OD green letters on white tshirt

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (Kyj0g)

258 In addition to believing that Trump voters are Nazis there is the weird class element to the professional class voters that hate Trump, something akin to claiming that they are more sophisticated or educated than the vulgar obnoxious Trump. Who happens to have a net worth thousands of times what theirs is and to which they aspire.
Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:11 PM (HALdu)

This is one of their more annoying beliefs. They truly BELIEVE that they are better read, better educated and have a higher intelligence than the average Trump voter--who they view as mouth-breathing idiots incapable of reading--let alone thinking.

Nearly every Trump voter==no matter their education level-- I know can explain in coherent terms why they like him and the job he is doing, giving specific
examples.

The Trump haters? Not so much. They hate Trump but they can't give you a reason why. They sputter out the usual talking points and that's it.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (NFEMn)

259 I cannot be the only professional-class Trump voter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (I2dne)

___

You're not. If you look at polling from 2016, Trump won the upper income, both $100K+ a year and $250K+ a year demo.

The toothless, uneducated hillbilly Trump voter is a myth the left created. And nobody's ever really pushed back on it, including Trump himself.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (FiUMj)

260 249 I think this is the explanation for atheists. For believers, it's pretty clearly good vs. evil. See: Book of Revelation

Posted by: artemis at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (AwPyG)

Truth

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:18 PM (G546f)

261 >>Are you kidding Zod? His urn will be an oildrum.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (AzW6q)

No.

Zod has arranged for the purchase of his cremains. They will join the other Rosebud matchboxes in Zod's collection.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:18 PM (XzT/D)

262 I think it is far more about belonging to the elite (status) and being able to impose their will (power) than it is about wealth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (I2dne)

First you get the power, then you get the money. When you got the money then you get the women.

Posted by: Tony Montana at October 21, 2019 05:18 PM (qAR6u)

263 if they cremate Nadler, the grease fire will destroy the furnace and the crematorium both.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 05:18 PM (Kyj0g)

264 It doesn't. It is meant to mean that the Ruling Caste has created a simplified story --- a mythology,
we could say, a mythos -- which simplifies the unruly chaos of the
real world into a more easily-grasped (and very untrue) vision of the
world and teaches certain morals and virtues (claimed morals and
virtues, anyway) based upon that mythology.

Take the next step. Start thinking about how the world works - how others perceive it to work - and then think the most about how the loudest scream their definitions about how it must work.

Get this - I can't write as pithy as you, although I have my moments. Part of your edge is because it's your site ... and so human nature dictates that the loudest dick's also suck your's off the most. Just how shit goes. Man is a political animal for the most part.

Some men are so political that they mimic an entire web site ... but I digress.

What you're seeing now - from both sides - is what you blogged. A screaming shit storm from both sides about how the State should direct the Citizen. Both sides ... Rock Ribbed Republicans and Die Hard Democrats alike ... are cock-sure that their version of the Perfect State is perfect.

If we were lucky ... they'd all kill each other an fall into new-plowed ground.

Slick ... most everyone around you is just screaming at the top of their lungs about how they wished the world would work. It's ideology all the way down. That is, after all, why all those spires all so tall.

Posted by: This Is How Shit Works at October 21, 2019 05:18 PM (vfYlO)

265 you woke up on the ceiling?

do you live in Australia?

Nah. Been feeling bad since Saturday when I very nearly hurled onstage right in the middle of our second set. Still not back to normal, whatever that is anymore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (HaL55)

266 Posted by: redc1c4 at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (Kyj0g)

ok!

I'll try to make that - thanks gor the idea

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (G546f)

267
He will be reduced. His cremains will be placed inside a Rosebud matchbox.

There are tire fires that have been burning for decades that will last less long than a Jerry Nadler funeral pyre.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (oVJmc)

268 Why should Trump push back on that meme, the Democrats and their Never Trump lapdogs are repeatedly making a mistake and pissing off people who voted for Trump.

Never correct an enemy when he is making a mistake,

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (xcJZI)

269
Romney: George McClellan

Trump: Ulysses Grant

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (7rVsF)

270 >>260 249 I think this is the explanation for atheists. For believers, it's pretty clearly good vs. evil. See: Book of Revelation

What you don't know about what you don't know would fill a book.

Kneel.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (XzT/D)

271 >>> Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 04:59 PM (xcJZI)

Beautiful, visually descriptive prose!

Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (hvf9s)

272 Simple explanation for supporting Trump:
***

The economy is doing so well I can't even get to my job on time because EVERYONE else has a job now too.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (WdocV)

273 You're not. If you look at polling from 2016, Trump won the upper income, both $100K+ a year and $250K+ a year demo.

The toothless, uneducated hillbilly Trump voter is a myth the left created. And nobody's ever really pushed back on it, including Trump himself.

===

no, trump only has the support of about 30 white, ewwww whites, men who are old and ready to die from one trailer park.

But every election, they use Santa's sled to fly around to every polling place.

meanwhile, the DNC's voters are all college educated professionals with fashionable clothes and hip jobs. There are no ghetto warriors, day laborers, union thugs, or any other non glamorous people.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (FEQY4)

274 224 A international shipping container

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (ZCEU2)

275 "This scares me because it doesn't sound the way I feel like it should sound," seems to be a very real thing.

The number of complete TDS hysterics I encounter online who are just totally freaked out by (supposedly) things that Trump does that are out of the "norm" while not being in the least frightened by the usual sorts of corruption and sleezy dealings is just incredible. It's just not how it's *done* you know! And of course, anything out of that very family and therefore comfortable set of expectations is clearly either illegal or unconstitutional or has something to do with the emulents clause, because of course it does.

Posted by: Synova at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (BD/yx)

276 Scrub-boy and butter-captain? LOL. Best part of the whole post.

Posted by: Al Crapton at October 21, 2019 05:19 PM (r97WR)

277 Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:16 PM (XzT/D)

LOL. That's a relief, because it's sure not here.

Actually, I kid. I have treasure here. It's just interpersonal and spiritual, not gold or dollars.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (j0JAA)

278 The curse of being a wealthy capitalist society, the likes of which the world has never seen, is that we must tolerate an ever-growing class of grifters whose sustenance comes from sucking life out of the people who work. I include much of the financial and legal sectors in that class, which not coincidentally share education, breeding, and worldview with the governmental, educational, media, and cultural elites that are more obvious. If we had the standard of living of, say, Mexico or Egypt, not even the Third World, we could not support this vast infrastructure and the free "stuff" army upon which it depends for votes and foot soldiers. Trump and the deplorables represent a revolt against all of them by the people who work. We all realize this at some level, and that is why the struggle is so vicious. We are threatening their sinecures enjoyed at our expense.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (idjhO)

279 I cannot be the only professional-class Trump voter. I'm not in the power class, but I am in the professional class. I suspect there are more people like me out there than we think, but there is no real way to know.

The class thing has been an undercurrent throughout the entire Trump era. During the 2016 campaign, some talking head or other was droning on about how Trump isn't the right kind of rich guy - he's what poor people think a rich guy should be like.

They were right, of course - he isn't a blue-blooded New England/Mid-Atlantic type of rich guy, or a genteel Southern type of rich guy, or a sanctimonious Silicon Valley type of rich guy. He's a brash, boastful, in-your-face rich guy. He is indeed, by their standards, the wrong kind of rich guy.

The point says a lot more about *them* than it does about Trump or his supporters, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (I2dne)

Agreed

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (HALdu)

280 Romney: Vidkun Quisling

Trump: George Patton

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (WdocV)

281 Norms-defenders? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (786Ro)

282 I realized Sunday that to make the critics case, one had to assume that it was in America's Interest to guarantee a a strip of Syrian land to a small faction of Kurds, to the point that we would physically Go To War against Turkey, even though Turkey's primary goal was to provide a space for Syrian refugees to go back to Syria, and also noting that the Kurds had no real claim to the land themselves.

I suppose it makes sense if you think it's outrageous to ask Mexican refugees to ever go back to Mexico.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 04:48 PM (Kpl3J)

I remember not too long ago when it took GW Bush almost 9 months to put together a coalition of a large number of foreign countries who were willing to help us go into Iraq after 9/11 to remove Saddam Hussein. ( I"m not going to debate the hindsight merits of that move). It wasn't until dozens of foreign governments, half a dozen intelligence services provided evidence to the UN and to our gov. that Hussein had WMD ( evidence including gassing the Kurds) to finally get an approval vote and declaration of some type to allow him to start the Iraq War. Whose removal of Hussein from the seat of power took something like ten days. And of course, 17 years later, we are still there, but that is not the point of this post.

Along comes Barry, and suddenly, under the guise of "terrorism" , we have now been engaged in removal of a sitting head of state in Libya, we have bombed people in Somalia, we have been in Syria for eight years ( it took Trump , what , 30 days to have the troops wipe out ISIS), we are in Iraq. All without any kind of declaration, vote, etc. all of it has been executive directives. Don't forget the jerks who were demanding Trump send troops to Venezuela to depose Maduro. Now it's screaming about the Kurds, whom we were supposed to fight a Nato ally over to protect, who can't even figure out who their leader is, and who have a large faction of whom our state department has designated a terrorist org.

I don't agree with Tulsi Gabbard on anything other than she is right about troops being used as proxies in a never ending , no goal game of providing arms and equipment and someone in Congress getting rich off of them being there.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (hrQ04)

283 And that includes most of the perps in DC, who went to fancy schools and didn't absorb an iota of knowledge or wisdom.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (AzW6q)

Wisdom, pfffft!

The wealthy cannot buy it at any price.

Those who have it cannot give it away for free.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (1g7ch)

284 That's all of it. And it's the Goucher College grad types that are the worst. I haven't met a lot of Ivy League deranged Trump haters. But I know a lot of Michigan or UNC types.....good schools, but not quite upper tier. They're the wanna be elites who figure hating the rubes with an intensity of 11 will give them street cred to the true elites. Meanwhile the true elites don't give a fuck.

And the funny thing is Trump went to Penn. LOL
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (FiUMj)

You see a lot of this with the irrational behavior of the Hollywood types, almost none of whom went to first or second tier schools. Or Steve Kerr, who went to Northern Nogales Community College, or whatever that joke in Tucson is called.

Posted by: Ted K. at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (FJYfm)

285
Tin foil hat time??

Knowing what you know now about the treachery and malfeasance and corruption inside the FBI and CIA, do you now have doubts about who kilt JFK?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (0RHof)

286 familiar... don't know why my fingers typed family...

But also, it's why you can't convince anyone to criticize Trump on the issues or objective things... It's never been about what he does. It's about the language and demeanor and failure to provide a comforting familiarity.

Posted by: Synova at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (BD/yx)

287 After the election I found 3 dudes I worked with were closet Trump supporters. But they were all afraid of being outed. I didn't really give a shit, since everyone at the company I worked for already knew I was a right wing lunatic, LOL. But it was nice finding out I wasn't as alone as I thought.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (FiUMj)

288 Interesting read.

The idea of being forced to choose between a social standard and reality that has been stamped as "proper" and the "vulgar", or common, isn't really an anomaly in politics.

It is extremely prevalent in social norms as well. Cancel culture is the most classic example, I think, where a ruling class of academic elites, sociologists, professional class doctors and lawyers, and pop culture figures exercise a perceived authority to determine what is proper and what is vulgar.

The passing of social standards in previous American generations was largely built on family and Christian thought. With the withering of faith and an immutable source of a universal moral standard and the decimation of the family structure, a vacuum has formed and has naturally been filled by those that seize on the opportunity to imprint their own illegitimate claim to acceptable ideology on any given subject rather than leave individuals to follow an immutable exterior source of morality or a group of individuals sharing a social contract of proper ideology. In other words, either God told us what was right or wrong and we had accepted our inferiority to His revealed will or mom's and dad's passed on the social standards that had applied to allow us to all get along.

Laws popped up to support the latter and manners were taught to insure the decency of the former. So I might not be able to shout "Fire" in a theater because it was considered important enough to form laws against, but I shouldn't shout "Fuck You" in a theater because it was bad form to do so.

But our society has shifted to the point where the arbiters of law have decided that laws are only partly applicable in situations they deem necessary and never to themselves and our social norms, for lack of heritage and common values, have become "can'ts" instead of "shouldn'ts" and are enforced through economic and social sanctions enforced by an illegitimate, elitist internet mob that has no actual claim to that authority, but whose noise is legitimized by media and industry.

But the reality is, from a true philosophically libertarian standpoint, that whether I accept commonplace social morality or not, is not an indicator whether I am a successful human, good to the extent that people can be good, or right and correct.

It's for this reason, a government can only have proper authority based upon the law rather than men and morality can only have weight when based on an immutable moral font greater than mankind itself. Atheism destroys morality because it makes all things relative. A two-tiered legal system, or de facto aristocracy, destroys a nation because the portion of life left for people to control is usurped by a ruling class.

A nation of laws, evenly applied, guided by an all-powerful God will prosper. A nation of men, governed only by their own whimsy and desire will surely fail.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (aktsl)

289 Is it strange that I dream of a throuple with Patty Lane and her identical cousin Cathy?

Posted by: Pierre Romney at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (Pzzpr)

290 @135 I would have voted for trump if jill stein was not on the ballot. I would never vote for a clinton and I never will! Trump is the best thing to happen to the democratic party clensing it of the clintons hopefully soon clintonism.

Posted by: raimondo at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (yDMgg)

291
Then who arranged for Jack Ruby to kill Oswald...

Who kilt Epstein...

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (0RHof)

292 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:20 PM (idjhO)

Heh, the 47% .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:22 PM (9YKBM)

293 LizLem, thank you.

I merely strive for the greatness of the Empress and her prose.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:22 PM (xcJZI)

294 There is Good News.

Mrs. Zod has paid the deposit for Zod to add a new Labrador puppy from the Wildrose Kennel in Oxford, MS. This is the birthday present for Zod, whose birthdate is six days hence.

Canis Zod has been informed. She is nonplussed.

The puppy will be a male. Zod will retrieve him next spring.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:22 PM (XzT/D)

295 What's a Heming weigh?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles

An Ezra Pound?

Posted by: RKae at October 21, 2019 05:22 PM (DQebX)

296

Chocolate Labrador??

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (0RHof)

297 I saw this flag I'd never seen before in our local MLS club's supporters section last night so I asked about it on reddit - turns out it represents some anarcho-communist movement. I've defended soccer for years against people calling it a gay communist sport. 3 years in the league and I'm giving up that defense.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (Xvo1a)

298 Also inject truth serum into 100 TDS upper middle class sufferers and 99 will tell you they want illegals and refugees sent home**.

**Except their nanny and landscape guy

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (FiUMj)

299 295
What's a Heming weigh?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles

An Ezra Pound?

Or 16 Frank Oz.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (T6t7i)

300 I think the Mitt Romney sock account proves that he would have put black people back in chains.

Posted by: Nan Sequitor at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (DuZls)

301 I really think that among the masses, only idiots are not goung to vote for Trump.

The bad news us I'm surrounded by idiots.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (G546f)

302
The toothless, uneducated hillbilly Trump voter is a myth the left created. And nobody's ever really pushed back on it, including Trump himself.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (FiUMj)

Why would he? Donald Trump has respected the choices and value of the working class for decades, which is why he was "surprisingly" competitive in industrial states. In 2020, he will be damn near unassailable if he sticks to his trade message.

By contrast, he obviously doesn't care about the generally useless liberal upper class feeling uncomfortable among their Inner Party friends and co-workers. Appealing to that crowd requires a level of artificial Washington etiquette that can only stamp on the Trump brand with his actual base.

Posted by: trev006 at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (Zp6dW)

303 The Hemingway piece was interesting but fell a bit short. In fact, those above who suggested Hemingway is overthinking what is a naked attempt to retain unmerited wealth and raw power are closer to the reality.

"The Peter Principle" 50 years ago proved prophetic in all but one very important regard. Those who attain positions above their capacity to perform aren't at all unhappy as the Principle maintained they would be. They simply are aware they in over their heads and as long as that isn't threatened they live fat and happily. Our cognitive elites, in and out of D.C., were quite content to be utter mediocrities but Trump's win threatened the illusion they achieved their positions due to their abilities (Hemingway is right there). The Dunning Kruger effect is the coin of the realm now.

Mass firings in disregard of civil protections would be required even to achieve a semblance of sanity. That isn't about to happen.

This very easily could be the end of the Republic if a modus vivendi isn't achieved. My bet is it won't be.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (iw59Q)

304 Nietzsche: Hegel's fault... who was Kant's fault.

Posted by: Al Crapton at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (r97WR)

305 The bad news us I'm surrounded by idiots.
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (G546f)
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Hey! We're right here, you know.

Posted by: bluebell at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (M9b/h)

306
Labradoodle?

Just heard this today on a radio ad: a Bulldog + Chihuahua = Bu-Wawa.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (0RHof)

307 291
Then who arranged for Jack Ruby to kill Oswald...

Who kilt Epstein...

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:21 PM (0RHof)

When after all it was you and me.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (NWiLs)

308 is that we must tolerate an ever-growing class of grifters whose sustenance comes from sucking life out of the people who work."

And the whole thing falls apart. You wanna know why there's no life crossing the galaxy? "civilization" is it's own end.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (6qErC)

309 The bad news us I'm surrounded by idiots.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (G546f)

I didn't know you live in CA too!

Posted by: IC at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (a0IVu)

310
Is Mollie Hemingway the same person as Mark Hemingway?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (0RHof)

311 And the funny thing is Trump went to Penn. LOL
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (FiUMj

I think he would prefer that you say Wharton.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (9YKBM)

312 So a different Kant on Hegel?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (xcJZI)

313 Politics don't come up often at work but have a good feel who is a Trump guy and who isn't.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (ZCEU2)

314 The puppy will be a male. Zod will retrieve him next spring.
Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:22 PM (XzT/D)

PUPPY!

Posted by: Synova at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (BD/yx)

315 306
Labradoodle?

Just heard this today on a radio ad: a Bulldog + Chihuahua = Bu-Wawa.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:24 PM (0RHof)

___

That shit is all over the place. Pick any 2 dog breeds and someone's backyard breeding them into a new breed.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:26 PM (FiUMj)

316 Is Mollie Hemingway the same person as Mark Hemingway?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (0RHof)
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I believe they are spouses.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 21, 2019 05:26 PM (Xvo1a)

317
The puppy will be a male. Zod will retrieve him next spring.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:22 PM (XzT/D)

May your first Lab be a masculine Lab!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 05:26 PM (7rVsF)

318 So a different Kant on Hegel?"

Within limits.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (6qErC)

319 The number of complete TDS hysterics I encounter online who are just totally freaked out by (supposedly) things that Trump does that are out of the "norm"

The thing they're missing is that the norm, The Way Things Are Done is exactly what most of America is sick of and wants changed.

One of the best things about that Glenn Beck video did was to show that the rebellion against the status quo in Washington was really kicked off by electing Obama. People saw in him a real chance for things to be different, a fresh start, something new.

And a lot of what he campaigned on, was good (shrinking bureaucracy, increasing transparency, etc). The problem was that with him you got more of the same, but this time with hatred toward half the country and more corruption.

So people went "well F it then, how about this Trump guy, he's definitely different."

The Norm IS THE PROBLEM and that's what these NeverTrump jackwagons do not seem to grasp.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (KZzsI)

320 I think VDH as Cassandra is neither unexpected nor ironic from his perspective, nor ours. Many of us share the same fate- we see it coming, but not nearly enough take heed. There will be blood.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (87EdW)

321 Bulldog and chihuahua?

That is going to be a sawed off log on four tiny legs and no brains.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (xcJZI)

322 Like Bull Shitzu.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (xPJvm)

323 Is Mollie Hemingway the same person as Mark Hemingway?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (0RHof)
++++++++++
I think they're married. Mollie is better, though, from my standpoint. Might make for a weird dynamic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (I2dne)

324 Zod will select the puppy, as well as tour the residence of William Faulkner, American author.

Wild Turkey--Faulkner's favorite--will be consumed. Zod (you will forget this part of the post) will be lachrymose. The small squirmy dog with stinking mother's-milk-puppy-breath will be selected.

Then thirteen hours in a vehicle with a small, scared, defecating Labrador retriever.

Carry on.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (XzT/D)

325 Daughter #3 wants a Bernedoodle, which is a cross between a Bernese mountain dog and a poodle. Sure, why not.

Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (T6t7i)

326
I saw this flag I'd never seen before in our local MLS club's supporters section last night so I asked about it on reddit - turns out it represents some anarcho-communist movement. I've defended soccer for years against people calling it a gay communist sport. 3 years in the league and I'm giving up that defense.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 21, 2019 05:23 PM (Xvo1a)

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Is it the Three Arrows?

I find it very strange that Antifa has appropriated that - it was the flag of the Social Democrats' street-thugs, the Iron Front (the weakest in the Weimar era).

The arrows were to pierce the Monarchists, the Nazis, and the Communists.

The Communist street faction was... Antifa.

If they had encountered the real life Iron Front, the IF would be breaking bottles on them and hurling bricks at them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (AzW6q)

327 Politics don't come up often at work but have a good feel who is a Trump guy and who isn't.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (ZCEU2)

I think anymore you can safely assume that anyone who isn't talking about politics all the time is a Trump supporter. If politics is consuming all your time and energy, you're a lefty.

Posted by: Ted K. at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (FJYfm)

328 311 And the funny thing is Trump went to Penn. LOL
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:14 PM (FiUMj

I think he would prefer that you say Wharton.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (9YKBM)

__

Meh. Wharton undergrad, which is what he has, is Penn. The real Wharton is MBA, IMHO.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (FiUMj)

329 we just saw the cutest little puppy walking past our house
my doggeh barked his head off at it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (G546f)

330 Labradoodle?"

"Doodle" everything. There's nothing a poodle won't... do.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:28 PM (6qErC)

331 I think anymore you can safely assume that anyone who isn't talking about politics all the time is a Trump supporter. If politics is consuming all your time and energy, you're a lefty.
Posted by: Ted K. at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (FJYfm)

___

DING DING DING

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:28 PM (FiUMj)

332 Back in the days before he became a bitter, plagiarizing, undersexed loser, Jonah Goldberg would bring up the Confucian concept of the "rectification of names," which is where people start using euphemisms to describe things that aren't going well and eventually the language itself becomes meaningless.

The "rectification" is the chaos that results as the words regain their true meaning.

It's ironic that he used to bring this up all the time because that's exactly what's going on. People who keep speaking of "free trade" have been lying through the teeth for decades. It wasn't free trade, it was exporting our manufacturing base so investment bankers could make more money.

Same with "immigration reform." This was a gambit to lock cheap migrant labor into the legal code, again benefitting the upper classes.

Trump is the rectifier, he's exposing all of this, which is why the current Mandarins despise him.

And yes, he broke Goldberg's rice bowl.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 21, 2019 05:28 PM (cfSRQ)

333 Politics don't come up often at work but have a good feel who is a Trump guy and who isn't.
Posted by: Skip

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I keep getting disappointed.

I work with several 60 year old guys who are really sane and non-nonsense.

We talk about life, our (silly) wives, etc.

Then one day it's hot and one of 'em grumbles "And idiots still don't believe in global warming!"

Or politics accidentally comes up, and one of calls Trump "a racist," or casually remarks that we're "living under an insane dictator."

Idiots all around me.

Posted by: RKae at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (DQebX)

334 I didn't know you live in CA too!
Posted by: IC at October 21, 2019 05:25 PM (a0IVu)

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We're not surrounded; we're drowning.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (qC1Sy)

335 Labradoodle?"

"Doodle" everything. There's nothing a poodle won't... do.

We have a loveseatoodle.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (oVJmc)

336 By the way, watch HBO's Rome if you haven't. It's all been done before.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (87EdW)

337 >>> 129 In my professional world I interact almost exclusively with liberals. A lot of them really truly believe that anyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (FiUMj)
Yes, my coworkers are almost exclusively leftist. I'm deep in political taqqiya here and I'm okay with that.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (RD7QR)

I'm in red state Utah, which should in theory be deep MAGA country. But I live up in the Northern Wasatch Front area (Ogden/SLC/Provo), full of NeverTrumper elites. So I have to completely hide my support of Trump or face utter social suicide. It is a weird space to be in. (There has to be other shy Trump voters around me, but I don't know how to find that out. We need a signal!)

Like I said in a previously Willow'd comment: God bless the rural conservative Utahns that want to MAGA, they will save the Wasatch Front GOPers from themselves.

Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (hvf9s)

338 Daughter #3 wants a Bernedoodle, which is a cross between a Bernese mountain dog and a poodle. Sure, why not.
Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (T6t7i)

I think that's a cross between a poodle and Bernie Sanders. It eats all your food, shits on your carpet, but mercifully drops over from a heart attack before it can invite all its friends over.

Posted by: Ted K. at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (FJYfm)

339

I would add something to the post to the effect that unless, at the culmination of this struggle we have returned to the original structure of our government and APPLY that structure all of the battle will have been for bloody nothing.

I'll repeat, we have been governed for 252 years by the most unique political system ever devised.

To discard that would be utter folly.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (KATBx)

340 We have a loveseatoodle."

Beats having an "ottomandoodle", I guess.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (6qErC)

341 >>332 Back in the days before he became a bitter, plagiarizing, undersexed loser, Jonah Goldberg

Incel.

Jonah. You will polish the boots of the officers and men of TrumpCamp A-12. Also, no more comic books.

Retrieve your shinebox.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (XzT/D)

342 I have a barkoodle.
He's a poodle with barracuda teeth that barks at everyone

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (G546f)

343 Then who arranged for Jack Ruby to kill Oswald...

Who kilt Epstein...
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile

When after all it was you and me.
Posted by: Insomniac

Pleased to meet you! Hope you catch my name...

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (AM1GF)

344 I am repeating others but,

The only people I see breaking norms are not President Trump or his supporters.

We didn't use the CIA to spy on US Citizens.
We didn't use the NSA to spy on US Citizens.

We didn't use the FBI to entrap people that committed no crimes.
We didn't use the FBI and DOJ and a Partisan Special Counsel to bankrupt citizens with legal bills for the non-crime of going to work for the Trump Administration.

We didn't use false and anonymous witnesses to smear and besmirch judicial candidates and cabinet candidates.

We didn't do any of that. But we remember who did.

Posted by: rd at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (+0uDE)

345 I think that's a cross between a poodle and Bernie Sanders. It eats all your food, shits on your carpet, but mercifully drops over from a heart attack before it can invite all its friends over."

Winnah!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (6qErC)

346 >>336 By the way, watch HBO's Rome if you haven't. It's all been done before.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (87EdW)

Concur.

Also, "Wolf Hall."

And "Foyle's War."

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (XzT/D)

347
90% of the reason people breed poodles with other breeds is for the "ooodle" or "poo" in the name.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (0RHof)

348 340

Ixnay on the ottomanday!

CBD could be lurking...

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (G546f)

349 Daughter #3 wants a Bernedoodle, which is a cross between a Bernese mountain dog and a poodle. Sure, why not.
Posted by: pep at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (T6t7i)

Go to your local shelter are rescue something before the give it the needle.

besides, "doodle" anything is played out and a bernese is way too big.

Posted by: not so at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (HALdu)

350 >>The puppy will be a male. Zod will retrieve him next spring.

Fun!!
And he will be named. . .?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (bDqIh)

351 I've rechristened my dinghy The Ruling Caste. Has a wonderful ring to it. Ahoy!

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at October 21, 2019 05:32 PM (EgshT)

352 I'll repeat, we have been governed for 252 years by the most unique political system ever devised.

To discard that would be utter folly.

Posted by: irongrampa

I beg to differ. We have not been governed by that system for at least the entirety of my life, likely much longer. The bastardized impostor system that took its place is unworthy of continuation.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:32 PM (AM1GF)

353 Labradoodle?"

"Doodle" everything. There's nothing a poodle won't... do.
Posted by: Anon a mouse

Like us Morons. "Yeah. I'd hit that"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 05:32 PM (FTf+m)

354 Ixnay on the ottomanday!

CBD could be lurking..."

Damn. Good call, there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:32 PM (6qErC)

355 I'll repeat, we have been governed for 252 years by the most unique political system ever devised.

To discard that would be utter folly.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (KATBx)

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30% of the population have no problem with discarding our current political system.

Then, they'll, as one group, when the consequences hit, holler, "we didn't know."

And to which I'll reply, "I, and many others before me, warned you."

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 05:32 PM (qC1Sy)

356 I beg to differ. We have not been governed by that system for at least the entirety of my life, likely much longer. The bastardized impostor system that took its place is unworthy of continuation.
Posted by: Brother Cavil

1865.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 05:33 PM (FTf+m)

357 Is it the Three Arrows?

I find it very strange that Antifa has appropriated that - it was the flag of the Social Democrats' street-thugs, the Iron Front (the weakest in the Weimar era).

The arrows were to pierce the Monarchists, the Nazis, and the Communists.

The Communist street faction was... Antifa.

If they had encountered the real life Iron Front, the IF would be breaking bottles on them and hurling bricks at them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:27 PM (AzW6q)
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No that was a few weeks back - this one had a loaf of bread so we were like that's cute wtf, turns out it's not so cute, involves Occupy etc. Our supporters groups are...really something.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 21, 2019 05:33 PM (Xvo1a)

358 M'doggie is a lab/husky cross. Is that a labsky? Or is it a huskrador?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:33 PM (Uu+Jp)

359 Go to your local shelter are rescue something before the give it the needle.

Word. Way too many perfectly good pooches in shelters to focus on designer breeds. Besides, what could be more American than a good old fashioned mutt?

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:33 PM (AM1GF)

360 The thing they're missing is that the norm, The Way Things Are Done is
exactly what most of America is sick of and wants changed.

The thing is that our Founders had the audacity to print our Constitution so's we could read it. In Inglais, at that!

And what people see written in it is not The Way Things Are Done today. Therein lies the rub.

So who are you going to believe when it comes to TWTAD, the powermongers and Progda (BIRM) or your own lying eyes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 05:33 PM (HaL55)

361 30% of the population have no problem with discarding our current political system.

Then, they'll, as one group, when the consequences hit, holler, "we didn't know."

And to which I'll reply, "I, and many others before me, warned you."
Posted by: blake

Reply? Shit. They just get ended.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (FTf+m)

362 >>Fun!! And he will be named. . .?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (bDqIh

Pauken. Or Tomey's Turl.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (XzT/D)

363 Meh. Wharton undergrad, which is what he has, is Penn. The real Wharton is MBA, IMHO.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:27

Too lazy to look up, but I think he has MBA from Wharton.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (Dhht7)

364 most of the ones in our local shelters are pitties

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (G546f)

365 Trump is the rectifier, he's exposing all of this, which is why the current Mandarins despise him.

And yes, he broke Goldberg's rice bowl.

It turns out that plain language is the ultimate weapon against the liberal-industrial complex. Which is probably why they're trying furiously to ban free speech.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (ZGrMX)

366 Idiots all around me.

We've done our job and done it well.

Posted by: The MFM Soundbite Machine at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (EgshT)

367 >>Besides, what could be more American than a good old fashioned mutt?

No.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (XzT/D)

368 Or is it a huskrador?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere

---

I saw Huskrador open for Hüsker Dü back in '85.

Posted by: RKae at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (DQebX)

369 Too lazy to look up, but I think he has MBA from Wharton."

Thought 'twas a BS, but hey, what do I know? I'm deplorable.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (6qErC)

370
Pauken. Or Tomey's Turl.
Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (XzT/D)

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Not "Zobrador?"

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (qC1Sy)

371 It turns out that plain language is the ultimate weapon against the liberal-industrial complex. Which is probably why they're trying furiously to ban free speech.

Posted by: Ian S.

"And the Truth shall set you free..." Hmm, I've heard this kind of thing before somewhere. I wonder...wait, it'll come to me...

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (AM1GF)

372 346
>>336 By the way, watch HBO's Rome if you haven't. It's all been done before.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 21, 2019 05:29 PM (87EdW)

Concur.

Also, "Wolf Hall."

And "Foyle's War."

mmmm. honeysuckle weeks.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (sGtp+)

373 jhawk90- Yeah, soccer is a communist sport

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (ZCEU2)

374 I don't want to replace our system, but I don't want California to be a part of it anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)

375 It turns out that plain language is the ultimate weapon against the liberal-industrial complex. Which is probably why they're trying furiously to ban free speech.

Posted by: Ian S.

---

Look no further than the "Islam is right about women" thing.

Confront the idiots with their cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: RKae at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (DQebX)

376 Brother Cavil, Farmer Bob, I'm with you on the inevitability of violence. The trigger will be next November's election. I expect that the inauguration will be the scene of a TDS terrorist attack and mass demonstrations that turn violent.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (idjhO)

377 359. W O R D!

Posted by: Dingbat at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (MXaJk)

378
I don't want to replace our system, but I don't want California to be a part of it anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)

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My Ejexit plan is predicated on California being the first state reverted to territorial status by Constitutional amendment.

I bet you could 38 states to ratify.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (AzW6q)

379 I don't want to replace our system, but I don't want California to be a part of it anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo

Between you and me, it ain't been in our system for some time now. What we should want is to not have ITS system become the norm. And we're already dangerously close.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (AM1GF)

380 Trump is the rectifier"

Well, the Vuldronaii won't like it...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (6qErC)

381 Funniest Duck Dynasty episode was when Uncle Si brought his poodle retriever duck hunting.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (9YKBM)

382 But I live up in the Northern Wasatch Front area (Ogden/SLC/Provo), full of NeverTrumper elites.

Which I can't figure out - how hard is it to notice that current left-wing "woke" "intersectional" politics are an existential threat to the Mormon Church.

Most of the Church may be geographically remote from the liberal coasts, but do the neverTrumper people in Utah really think that they'll get an exemption from the laws that will be enforced in the rest of the country if the Democrats take power?

The crocodile may eat the Mormons last, but that doesn't mean that they are aren't on the menu.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (I2/tG)

383 "f there is a Nietzschean component to this, it's the will to power, and nothing more, IMO."Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

idk Nietzche, but I think they can have True motives for power, but they still like the pageantry of being Noble and Superior. (you shall be as God). So they sell out the true humility, the true oath of office to serve ... and they dress themselves in the royal garb of nobility (ego, self serving, contempt for God).

So they can have both ... money and power ... and the (false narrative) of Superiority. They need the fake narrative ... even the Pharisees probably believed in their own superior virtue. Cognitive dissonance ...

Posted by: illiniwek at October 21, 2019 05:38 PM (Cus5s)

384 "Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words. With all of their noisy devotion to the age of science, their hysterically technological jargon, their cyclotrons, their sound rays, these men were moved forward, not by the image of an industrial skyline, but by the vision of that form of existence which the industrialists had swept away-the vision of a fat, unhygienic rajah of India, with vacant eyes staring in indolent stupor out of stagnant layers of flesh, with nothing to do but run precious gems through his fingers and, once in a while, stick a knife into the body of a starved, toil-dazed, germeaten creature, as a claim to a few grains of the creature's rice, then claim it from hundreds of millions of such creatures and thus let the rice grains gather into gems."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 21, 2019 05:38 PM (zKN+K)

385 >>Not "Zobrador?Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (qC1Sy)

Alexis Zorba.

No.

But interesting.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:38 PM (XzT/D)

386 Bernardoodle

Cross between a St. Bernard and a poodle.

Mastoodle

Mastiff and a poodle.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 21, 2019 05:38 PM (1XNk8)

387 347
90% of the reason people breed poodles with other breeds is for the "ooodle" or "poo" in the name.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:31 PM (0RHof)

I got my (F1b) Goldendoodle because I like the personality of a Golden Retriever, she sheds not at all, and is as smart and as nimble as any Poodle I've met or owned. Adores people in general, and makes me go outside and exercise her for at least an hour daily.

BUT, if you're talking about SheepaDoodles, PortuPoos, etc. (Old English Sheepdogs do not shed, nor do Portuguese Water Dogs) -- what you say makes sense.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 21, 2019 05:38 PM (uU9ws)

388 Trump BA-Fordham, MBA Wharton.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:39 PM (j0JAA)

389 Nietzsche is usually mistunderstood.

Not always, but usually.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:39 PM (XzT/D)

390 To add to what I wrote above, the Hunter Biden scandal is more than just pretext to impeach. It is emblematic of modern D.C.: grifters with no merit who profit handsomely. That one hit too close to home for a lot of them.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 21, 2019 05:40 PM (iw59Q)

391 >> "f there is a Nietzschean component to this, it's the will to power, and nothing more, IMO."

Nietzsche gets a bad wrap. There's a lot of insight into the Human Condition to be found in his writing. It just isn't flavored right for most.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:40 PM (EMeqI)

392 Too lazy to look up, but I think he has MBA from Wharton."

Thought 'twas a BS, but hey, what do I know? I'm deplorable.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 21, 2019 05:35 PM (6qErC)

His daughter does but he just transferred there from Fordham and just completed his undergrad work.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:40 PM (9YKBM)

393 Omar turns out to be a universalist.

Turns out everybody is Omar's "brother".

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 05:40 PM (DuZls)

394 >>> I don't want to replace our system, but I don't want California to be a part of it anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)

Once the Wall between US and Mexico is built, We can begin work on the wall between US and California (Special secret passageway back into the US for members of the Horde, type "*6969#" into the security keypad.)

Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (hvf9s)

395 381 Funniest Duck Dynasty episode was when Uncle Si brought his poodle retriever duck hunting.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:37 PM (9YKBM)

Reminded me of the Standard Poodle I had back in 1964 - 1974 named Pupsodent. ABSOLUTE BEST hunting dog I've ever seen.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (uU9ws)

396 My Ejexit plan is predicated on California being the first state reverted to territorial status by Constitutional amendment.

It is time to undo the great historical wrong of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, and return Alta California to its traditional status as a Mexican province.

Think of it as reparations to Mexico.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (I2/tG)

397 By the way, watch HBO's Rome if you haven't. It's all been done before.

Somebody mentioned in a previous thread and said we're in uncharted territory and I thought, "Yeah, it's uncharted for America, but not history."

We have the means to deal with a government that won't stay on its leash and instead turns on its master.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (HaL55)

398 "...I don't want California to be a part of it anymore."

By any measure, the State of California is in a State of Insurrection.
It should lose statehood, and be declared a Territory.
Its Senators and Representatives should be recalled from Congress.
A Governor should be installed by PDJT.
I declare this and I live here.

Take the upcoming Election. Not one person running for District Attorney is going to undo Sanctuary City policies.

Open rebellion.

Posted by: Tired and old, f*ck it at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (w7KSn)

399 Honestly, all these fancy names for these crossbreeds, we just called 'em mutts. Or "Heinz 57 dogs" as my mother would call them. But no, everybody's gotta be special and have the designer label and a special bloodline bred so thin you'd think they were Hapsburgs.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (AM1GF)

400
BA-Fordham

*gasps*

The Jesuits!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (7rVsF)

401 That should have been rap not wrap....but, it works either way.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (EMeqI)

402 Then, they'll, as one group, when the consequences hit, holler, "we didn't know."

And to which I'll reply, "I, and many others before me, warned you."
Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at October 21, 2019 05:32 PM (qC1Sy)

Well, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (jYnPD)

403 >>Nietzsche gets a bad wrap. There's a lot of insight into the Human Condition to be found in his writing.
Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:40 PM (EMeqI)

This is correct. Those who think that his work is strong should be reading Schopenhauer.

Spoiler: Women. Do not read Schopenhauer. You will be...angered.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (XzT/D)

404
It turns out that plain language is the ultimate weapon against the liberal-industrial complex. Which is probably why they're trying furiously to ban free speech.

Posted by: Ian S.

"And the Truth shall set you free..." Hmm, I've heard this kind of thing before somewhere. I wonder...wait, it'll come to me...
Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (AM1GF)

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No, no, no,

Work will make you Frei

Posted by: The Democrat Socialists at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (+0uDE)

405 Posted by: irongrampa at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (KATBx)

Nailed it, IG!
Except it needs term limits that kick in before the elected politicians can learn how to profit from the graft!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (BiNEL)

406
My sister had a malty-poo??

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (0RHof)

407 >>This is correct. Those who think that his work is strong should be reading Schopenhauer.

Hah!

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (EMeqI)

408 Our big dog is a bassador. Basset/labrador.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (oVJmc)

409 Posted by: jwb7605 at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (uU9ws)

Yep That's what they were bred for. It was just funny seeing the French cut poodle retrieving .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (9YKBM)

410 It turns out that plain language is the ultimate weapon against the liberal-industrial complex. Which is probably why they're trying furiously to ban free speech.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 21, 2019 05:34 PM (ZGrMX)
++++++++++
It's corollary is "sunlight is the best disinfectant."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (I2dne)

411 Conservative was supposed to be a faculty lounge debate where the argument was merely a foil to show how flawed it really was.

The NeverTrump crowd is horrified to find there are actual real people who honestly are conservative

That upsets them most because they had their station all confirmed, assigned to gently lead us all to the correct worldview: Liberal Marxism

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (Ltju7)

412 394 >>> I don't want to replace our system, but I don't want California to be a part of it anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)

Once the Wall between US and Mexico is built, We can begin work on the wall between US and California (Special secret passageway back into the US for members of the Horde, type "*6969#" into the security keypad.)
Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (hvf9s)

Trebuchets. They want to live in Mexico, let's help them.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (jYnPD)

413 >>But no, everybody's gotta be special and have the designer label and a special bloodline bred so thin you'd think they were Hapsburgs.
Posted by: Brother Cavil Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-ADat October 21, 2019 05:41 PM (AM1GF)

(Lends Cavil money to purchase a real dog)

You do not need to thank Zod.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (XzT/D)

414
Do they make poodle + schnauzer?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (0RHof)

415 Nietzsche gets a bad wrap. There's a lot of insight into the Human Condition to be found in his writing. It just isn't flavored right for most.

Posted by: garrett

Not to mention the godawful mess his sister made of his manuscripts post his passing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (AM1GF)

416 I'm a rectifier.

Posted by: Matt Plauer at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (EgshT)

417 To discard that would be utter folly.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 21, 2019 05:30 PM (KATBx)

If you told the founders that the President would be impeached because too many foreigners were staying at his lodgings to curry favor with him, they would:

1) Shoot cha.
2) Declare King Washington. Over his protests. "Gentlemen, no one is that dumb!"

Posted by: trev006 at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (2WvnB)

418 This is correct. Those who think that his work is strong should be reading Schopenhauer.

We have a Schopenschnauser.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (oVJmc)

419 Suck it, proles.

Posted by: Your Betters at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (v0R5T)

420 Reminded me of the Standard Poodle I had back in 1964 - 1974 named Pupsodent. ABSOLUTE BEST hunting dog I've ever seen.

They look goofy but they are hunting dogs, the full size ones. Big buggers, too, if you're only used to toy poodles

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (KZzsI)

421 Question: Do you have to wear magic underwear to be in the elite's club?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

No but it helps if you're playing the lucky Peter lottery.

Posted by: Sock Monkey....watching the world insert it's proverbial head up it's proverbial ass at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (XD+JK)

422
Reminded me of the Standard Poodle I had back in 1964 - 1974 named Pupsodent. ABSOLUTE BEST hunting dog I've ever seen.

Posted by: jwb7605

Poodles are bred to be hunting dogs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (7rVsF)

423 >>Not to mention the godawful mess his sister made of his manuscripts post his passing.

If you believe his Bio, they had a lot to do with ALL that went wrong there.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (EMeqI)

424 I think even before Trump administration I heard references between us and ancient Rome

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (ZCEU2)

425 Mark and Mollie Hemingway pack one damn serious one-two punch.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/DNC/msm at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (x6XkS)

426 Honestly, though...Zarathustra is worth the read.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (EMeqI)

427 A few years of kanal digging would do wonders for our elite.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (zKN+K)

428 (Lends Cavil money to purchase a real dog)

You do not need to thank Zod.

Posted by: Zod

/gets pound pup of questionable lineage but excellent disposition and health and pockets the rest for dog food

As real as it gets, yo.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at October 21, 2019 05:44 PM (AM1GF)

429 So is them Louis Vitton bags used for groceries instead of the plastic ones?

Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2019 05:45 PM (UUkQp)

430 Psychopaths also tend to invent mythos that only their murder spree can solve.

This is a common thread for people who's conscience needs to be able to deal with what's running through their brains. They create a bogeyman in order to explain why they had to kill and skin that hobo in the park.

Demons, voices, spooky government types, etc.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 05:45 PM (n9sj8)

431 Yep That's what they were bred for. It was just funny seeing the French cut poodle retrieving .

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:43 PM (9YKBM)

When hunting season started, Pups would retrieve pheasants and ducks still in her summer "French Clip".

My high school buddies had the same reaction as the Duck Dynasty guys, and the same disbelief.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 21, 2019 05:45 PM (uU9ws)

432 I think even before Trump administration I heard references between us and ancient Rome

I look forward First Citizen Barron.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 21, 2019 05:45 PM (zKN+K)

433 Nietzsche gets a bad wrap. There's a lot of insight into the Human Condition to be found in his writing.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:40 PM (EMeqI)
---
Nietzsche is very interesting. I think some of the bad rap is deserved. In lucid periods from his catatonic state, he relented that he understood many things wrongly.

I think Nietzsche's final, personal state is repentance.

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 05:46 PM (DuZls)

434 So is them Louis Vitton bags used for groceries instead of the plastic ones?
Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2019 05:45 PM (UUkQp)
++++++++++++
Oh man. I am tempted to buy one (well, not really, but a reasonably good knock-off) and go use it at the supermarket in the part of town where women love their LV bags for exactly this purpose.

Just for the shocked, horrified contempt such an act would cause.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:46 PM (I2dne)

435 By the way, in the sidebar: people in the British Isles still use Jessie in some areas. Meaning "wimp" or "pansy." You bloody great Jessie, get into the North Sea and swim!

They also use "big girl's blouse" sometimes which I don't know the origin of but its pretty picturesque. Mitt Romney is a Big Girl's Blouse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 21, 2019 05:46 PM (KZzsI)

436 >>Poodles are bred to be hunting dogs.

They are.

But they generally suck compared to the other breeds. Labs and Chessies are better waterfowl dogs. Pointers and Setters are better upland dogs.

But. If you want to let everyone know you are cock curious, Poodles are like a nice pair of Crocs when you are in the field.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:46 PM (EMeqI)

437

I have an unshakeable belief in this country, that it can return to the sane guidance offered in it's original blueprint.

We have endured and triumphed over situations that have sunk lesser nations, we will prevail in this latest challenge.

And THAT is indisputable.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 21, 2019 05:46 PM (KATBx)

438 I read a book once, many years ago, that tried to build a case that the Sherlock Holmes story about his demise at Reichenbach Falls was all about Nietzsche.
Don't remember anything more than the fact I read it.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (Uu+Jp)

439 Pupsodent. That's a great name for a dog!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (j0JAA)

440 388 Trump BA-Fordham, MBA Wharton.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:39 PM (j0JAA)

___

Not quite. He went to Fordham, then transfered and graduated from Penn(Wharton) with a bachelors. He does not have an MBA.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (FiUMj)

441 Pupsodent. That's a great name for a dog!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (j0JAA)
++++++++++
But will I wonder where the yellow went?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (I2dne)

442 I've seen a setter sit and a pointer point but I've never seen a schnauzer schnauz.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 05:48 PM (HaL55)

443 By the way, Rome is worth watching for Polly Walker. Built like a brick lavatrina.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:48 PM (idjhO)

444 Not quite. He went to Fordham, then transfered and graduated from Penn(Wharton) with a bachelors. He does not have an MBA.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (FiUMj)
++++++++++++
Probably how he built a successful business instead of going public, goosing the numbers for a few quarters, outsourcing his operations and then deploying his golden parachute to go do it again to another hotel outfit before eventually jumping industries entirely and hollowing out some midsized manufacturer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:48 PM (I2dne)

445
This is correct. Those who think that his work is strong should be reading Schopenhauer.

Spoiler: Women. Do not read Schopenhauer. You will be...angered.
Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:42 PM (XzT/D)

------

I always read the idea of the will to power as a rejection, or at least an extreme modification of Shopenhauer's views.

Maybe I've got it wrong.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:49 PM (AzW6q)

446 Anyone I don't like is a Nietzsche!

Posted by: Hard-of-hearing SJW at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (oVJmc)

447 By the way, Rome is worth watching for Polly Walker. Built like a brick lavatrina.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:48 PM (idjhO)

I've been watching the Spartacus series on Starz. They like to show the boobies.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (9YKBM)

448 Eastern and Northern California should secede and become states, as West Virginia did.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (idjhO)

449 Not quite. He went to Fordham, then transfered and graduated from Penn(Wharton) with a bachelors. He does not have an MBA.

Thanks for the correction. He clearly didn't need an MBA then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (j0JAA)

450 I fucked a girl from Fordham one summer. I can't remember her name though. She was Hispanic and had nice bewbs, that I do remember.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (FiUMj)

451 >>I always read the idea of the will to power as a rejection, or at least an extreme modification of Shopenhauer's views. Maybe I've got it wrong.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 21, 2019 05:49 PM (AzW6q)

I don't think you do have it wrong.

Posted by: Zod at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (XzT/D)

452 1865.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 05:33 PM (FTf+m)

Bingo! Perhaps not the "beginning" of the destruction of the US Constitution, but it's acceleration.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (u5LFV)

453 I've been watching the Spartacus series on Starz. They like to show the boobies.
Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (9YKBM)
+++++++++
Why?

Posted by: Corey "Spartacus" Booker at October 21, 2019 05:51 PM (I2dne)

454 People always grok 'Will to Power' incorrectly.

It is described as a hallmark of the Ubermensch/Overman. Not as a path to it.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:51 PM (EMeqI)

455 439 Pupsodent. That's a great name for a dog!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2019 05:47 PM (j0JAA)

I was working for the vet when I got her. His kids gave her the name from the commercial that went "You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with ...".

Pupsodent is the "second name" of my current GoldenDoodle (registered with the CKC)

Minnie's chip number ends with 7605. What are the odds of that? Last 4 digits of my Service Number.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 21, 2019 05:51 PM (uU9ws)

456 I keep those fucking things on the roof of my car.

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at October 21, 2019 05:51 PM (v0R5T)

457 >>> Which I can't figure out - how hard is it to notice that current left-wing "woke" "intersectional" politics are an existential threat to the Mormon Church.

Trump is on their side religious freedoms wise, but too boorish and crude to ever be acceptable. As long as their liberal overlords smile at them politely and hold up their pinky finger while they flip the gas chamber switch on, NeverTrumper Mormon elites are fine walking to their doom.

And no, I don't get it either. You'd think they would remember our history, of the government utterly screwing us and our civil rights over in the past, and not be begging to repeat it. It's disheartening and disappointing.

Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 05:51 PM (hvf9s)

458 I always though 'Spalding' would be the best name for a Bird Dog.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (EMeqI)

459 Nietzsche always sounds like the Sphinx from Mystery Men.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (oVJmc)

460 > Which I can't figure out - how hard is it to notice that current
left-wing "woke" "intersectional" politics are an existential threat to
the Mormon Church.

These "Mormons" and the self-hating, socialist "Jews" are exactly analogous.
They have not only abandoned their faith, they actively work against it.
Note that I'm not, NOT, making a blanket statement about all Mormons and Jews here. There are plenty of both who still adhere to their actual faith and the moral code set forth by it. The "elites", though....
And, of course, the same is true of the "elites" of other mainstream denominations.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset, also Spartacus) at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (Do2h6)

461 Nobody needs an MBA

And I say this as someone with one. I mean I suppose if you had no business exposure whatsoever in undergrad, an MBA can't hurt. But most people with an MBA also have an econ, or business or similar undergrad, making the MBA superfluous.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (FiUMj)

462 450 I fucked a girl from Fordham one summer. I can't remember her name though. She was Hispanic and had nice bewbs, that I do remember.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (FiUMj)

Maybe it was Mulva?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (Kpl3J)

463 Pretty much spend the whole day yelling the damned dog's name...might as well get a few laughs.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (EMeqI)

464 The question is....how do we prevail against everything the current governing class has aligned against us?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2019 05:01 PM (WdocV)

It's inevitable. They can't run anything properly, so eventually their machine will break and destroy itself and we can pick up the pieces.

The issue is just if we can cut to the final result with less damage by winning quicker.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 05:53 PM (FTPn0)

465 >>I can't remember her name though

Delores

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:53 PM (EMeqI)

466 I gotf to see an few of the Rome series, looked good .

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2019 05:53 PM (ZCEU2)

467 446 Anyone I don't like is a Nietzsche!
Posted by: Hard-of-hearing SJW at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (oVJmc)

that should go on a t-shirt

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at October 21, 2019 05:53 PM (G546f)

468 Also obligatory:

http://www.nietzschefamilycircus.com/

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:53 PM (oVJmc)

469 Damn now I'm going to spend the rest of the day trying to remember her name. I want to say she was from N. Carolina. Or maybe her name was Caroline? Damn it!!!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (FiUMj)

470 always though 'Spalding' would be the best name for a Bird Dog.
Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:52 PM (EMeqI)

This one went over my head. Help a brother out?

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (9YKBM)

471
Probably how he built a successful business instead of going public, goosing the numbers for a few quarters, outsourcing his operations and then deploying his golden parachute to go do it again to another hotel outfit before eventually jumping industries entirely and hollowing out some midsized manufacturer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

It's one thing to have an MBA to manage your company's money and financial processes. The MBAs who think their degree gives them some insight into running corporate strategy are a menace and should be shot. The only solution they have is firing people. Not a clue about organic growth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (7rVsF)

472 It was Regina!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (Kpl3J)

473 In case anybody hasn't already done it, I think Cato's Not President Day is September 1.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (y7DUB)

474 Pierre Delecto:
From the French "Pierre" (Peter) and the Latin "Delecto" (delectable, or delicious).
Thus: "delicious penis".

Posted by: Guy Who Pulls Etymology Out of His Ass at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (Do2h6)

475 Damn now I'm going to spend the rest of the day trying to remember her
name. I want to say she was from N. Carolina. Or maybe her name was
Caroline? Damn it!!!!

Was she sweet, perchance?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 21, 2019 05:55 PM (HaL55)

476 >>This one went over my head.

Caddyshack.

Judge Smails is constantly yelling at the kid "SPALDING!"

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:55 PM (EMeqI)

477 Gabbard is Clinton's 'foil.'

they're on the same side.

witness this wikileaked email where G thanks Podesta for his support. Plus anybody on the Council of Foreign Relations is part of the Deep State Cabal, of which Clinton is a queen. bad bad people.

https://tinyurl.com/y5k7x3zg

Posted by: booknlass at October 21, 2019 05:55 PM (xIKXj)

478 I fucked a girl from Fordham

Just to make her sigh

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at October 21, 2019 05:55 PM (Uu+Jp)

479 So is them Louis Vitton bags used for groceries instead of the plastic ones?
Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2019 05:45 PM (UUkQp)
++++++++++++
Oh man. I am tempted to buy one (well, not really, but a reasonably good knock-off) and go use it at the supermarket in the part of town where women love their LV bags for exactly this purpose.

Just for the shocked, horrified contempt such an act would cause.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

"I have so much money we use them for carrying raw chicken!"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 05:55 PM (FTf+m)

480 468
Also obligatory:

http://www.nietzschefamilycircus.com/

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 21, 2019 05:53 PM (oVJmc)

That's hilarious.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (jYnPD)

481 Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 21, 2019 05:50 PM (idjhO)

Just print a map of the red/blue counties of 2016 election and divide the friggin' state up by that.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (u5LFV)

482 The asshole Republicans who refuse to even censure Schiff for Brains for reading a lie into Congressional record.

Martha Roby (R-AL)
Ken Buck (R-CO)
Francis Rooney (R-FL)
Rob Woodall (R-GA)
Rodney Davis (R-IL)
Greg Pence (R-IL)
Tom Reed (R-NY)
John Katko (R-NY)
Mike Turner (R-OH
Greg Walden (R-OR)
Dusty Johnson (R-SD)
Van Taylor (R-TX)
Michael McCaul (R-TX)
Mac Thornberry (R-TX)
Jmie-Herrera Beutler (R-WA)
Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-W

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (n9sj8)

483 It's one thing to have an MBA to manage your company's money and financial processes. The MBAs who think their degree gives them some insight into running corporate strategy are a menace and should be shot. The only solution they have is firing people. Not a clue about organic growth.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 21, 2019 05:54 PM (7rVsF)
+++++++++++
Yup, exactly. Understanding process control and finance is not a golden ticket to mastery of strategy and growth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (I2dne)

484 I think those reasons for hating Trump cited by Hemingway and Hanson are true, but I don't think they're what incites the hitherto unparalleled derangement. That reason is Trump's political incorrectness. We're talking about the control of language and ultimately thought and life. PC strictures had tied every Republican in knots and were paving the way for the brave new world of thought control. Trump defied all of it, and became an exemplar of the freedom to say "fuck it, I'll say what I want to say because it's the truth." THIS was unforgivable.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (H8QX8)

485 Rose!! Her name was Rose.

And I think I fucked a Caroline once too.

Jezuz I was both a drunk and a whore in my younger days. And my memory is starting to fade.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:57 PM (FiUMj)

486 IIRC British General Gates in Boston wanted to seize the local militia arms before the Colonials could cause mischief with them.

That was his cunning plan.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2019 05:04 PM (xcJZI)

It was cannon and the like he was going for at the depot. Muskets the militia brought from home, as he found out on the retirement back to Boston where the muskets shot the hell out of his men.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 05:57 PM (FTPn0)

487 Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 05:55 PM (EMeqI

That I get. I was looking for a dog connection.

You going to eat that fat? ( a dog Spalding would say that if he could)

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 21, 2019 05:57 PM (9YKBM)

488 Jamie-Herrera Beutler (R-WA)

Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (n9sj

Time to light a fire under some people.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (jYnPD)

489 Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-W
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 21, 2019 05:56 PM (n9sj

___
AKA the Female Paul Ryan. Spit.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (FiUMj)

490 Can anyone explain to me just what it is that Trump is supposedly soooooo immoral about?

Okay. He's a womanizer. That ship sailed in, what, the late 1700s?

He is intemperate! Andrew. Freaking. Jackson.

He's a braggart! Hi, have any of those who are politicians or who are covering politicians ever met any politicians? See re: my prior thread ranting about how Romney believes that he, and only he, can save the Republic.

Trump is nothing more or less than an American. Bold, brash, loud, large appetites, and larger love for the country.

That Our Betters find that horrifying is clarifying indeed.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (GbPPJ)

491 Caddyshack.

Judge Smails is constantly yelling at the kid "SPALDING!"
Posted by: garrett

You always give a dog a one syllable name. That way when you are chasing him down the street, you only have to yell, "Sam!" Or "Max!"

Instead of "Bartholomew Pierpont Jamison!"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (FTf+m)

492 I wasn't paying attention but just learned the republicans pretty much demolished the dems in the Louisiana special election. With a few runoffs coming they may damage the dems even more.

Posted by: LASue at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

493 I saw Patina of Legitimacy open for the Gun and Roses.

Posted by: Blanco at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (HltPS)

494
Over the course of many years and activities a fairly common behavior that I have witnessed in both individuals and corporations / companies is an almost irresistible urge to pull up the ladder or obliterate their pathway once they have deemed their "fair, earned and deserved" level of success so that others, presumably less worthy, may not sully their achievement by joining them.

Trump, as I perceive his deeds and words, but mostly deeds, genuinely wants others to succeed and earn a sense of accomplishment for doing so. Among all other Presidents in my lifetime going back to Eisenhower, only Reagan approached this behavior, but Trump does it better.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 21, 2019 05:59 PM (6G4DD)

495 MBAs matter if from a top 20 school. It's a club and nothing more. Which is why I tell people unless you get into a top school, don't bother. It's worthless.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:59 PM (FiUMj)

496
Pence's brother??

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 05:59 PM (0RHof)

497
One need merely to go full bien pensant and agree with our betters, in order to become a member of a moral and intellectual elite. Easy as falling off a log. Seeing things as they are is a much more difficult road.

Of course to be part of an elite, as Ace has pointed out, there have to be people who are not in it. That would be people like us.

Joining the fake elite is the path of least resistance for the softheaded. It must be so nice. They don't have to worry about facts or logic. And all the problems, such as for example a flood of H1 workers and illegals, or an increasingly tyrannical government, these problems just melt away. The worry is gone-- there is only one real problem, us-- the people who keep insisting that the problems exist.

They have so many new friends in the woke tribe Annoying and threatening us gives them purpose in life, and they don't have to fight fair or tell the truth. So nice.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 21, 2019 05:59 PM (qYGK6)

498

noooooooood

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 21, 2019 06:00 PM (0RHof)

499 >>Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (GbPPJ)

He's not a Politician.

That's the crux of it.

Billionaire or no, he's showing 100% of the country that Politicians are worthless fucks. Anyone could do their job and we would only achieve improved results, for it..

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2019 06:00 PM (EMeqI)

500 or by happy accident, identify problems (or fictionalized, simplified versions of problems) which the Ruling Caste is uniquely able to solve,

It's totally not the same as me learning to #define macros and becoming a menace to readability everywhere.

Who here isn't ready to pre-compile the GOPe to NULL.

Posted by: DaveA at October 21, 2019 06:00 PM (FhXTo)

501 Trump is nothing more or less than an American. Bold, brash, loud, large appetites, and larger love for the country.

That Our Betters find that horrifying is clarifying indeed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (GbPPJ)

___

He also said pussy. Something that no else in NY/DC/Boston has ever said before.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 06:00 PM (FiUMj)

502 Trump, as I perceive his deeds and words, but mostly deeds, genuinely wants others to succeed and earn a sense of accomplishment for doing so. Among all other Presidents in my lifetime going back to Eisenhower, only Reagan approached this behavior, but Trump does it better.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 21, 2019 05:59 PM (6G4DD)

Be careful. Trump is a billionaire, and only wants to see us become millionaires.

Posted by: jwb7605 at October 21, 2019 06:00 PM (uU9ws)

503 Trump is nothing more or less than an American. Bold, brash, loud, large appetites, and larger love for the country.

That Our Betters find that horrifying is clarifying indeed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (GbPPJ)

It sure is. They hate us, or at best pity us, for our unenlightened state.

Posted by: LASue at October 21, 2019 06:01 PM (Ed8Zd)

504 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 21, 2019 06:01 PM (bwo3w)

505 and now we have Romney. What the fuck happened in 2012? How did we get the most anti-republicans since...McCain...to run as our president?

Thanks, media.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at October 21, 2019 05:06 PM (FEQY4)

Republican rank and file should never trust the blue state GOP to lead. Even CA in Reagan's day was pale red. I knew Romney would be no help if he got elected, and carpetbagging to UT didn't change that in the slightest.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 06:02 PM (FTPn0)

506 Can anyone explain to me just what it is that Trump is supposedly soooooo immoral about?

Okay. He's a womanizer. That ship sailed in, what, the late 1700s?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (GbPPJ)
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Trump University was a scam. He didn't oversee the curriculum, he admitted under oath that he didn't. Yet he sold it as if he did.

That was bad. But I noticed that he didn't perjure himself like a certain president did. I've always credited to him that he told an embarrassing truth rather than lie under oath.

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 06:02 PM (DuZls)

507 >>> Gabbard is Clinton's 'foil.' they're on the same side.

Agreed. Apparently some posters on The_Donald are Tulsi and Yang curious, and others there are doing a good job of putting them some truth as to their actual stated positions.

Tulsi and Yang two might be the least objectionable of the crazed clown car that is the DNC 2020 candidates, but they are still objectionable.

Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 06:02 PM (hvf9s)

508 Never forget. It is us they hate. Trump is just in the way.

And they hate us because we believe in liberty, which is inconvenient to their acquisition of power.

The rest is just details.
Posted by: Thatch at October 21, 2019 05:12 PM (v5Cc/)

They hate Trump because he was a blue-stater, one of their crowd, and he SIDED WITH US.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 06:03 PM (FTPn0)

509 My personal take is that the period we are in is a crisis point in Western Civilization that has been gaining speed since WWI. The collapse of the Warsaw pact eliminated outside enemies for a time but it exhausted and corrupted both Russia and the U.S. along with their allies. Sort of like how the Eastern Empire fighting with the Persians allowed the Arabs via Islam and later Turks to overcome both established powers. China seems to be filling that role now.

Internally, democracies across the board are beginning to buckle under internal contradictions as universal suffrage inevitably means raiding the treasury for goodies, insiders get to skim the take, euphemisms replace honest debate, and scientific, artistic, education, and bureaucracies become ossified.

Basically now the battle is between cosmopolitans which are roughly about 10 percent or so of the population versus the other 90 percent that are tribal/nationalist in nature. Thus, the cosmopolitans seek to weaken dominant "tribes" or "nationalists" via dilution with "tribes" that rely on them for protection and money and by the heavy taxes necessary to keep the welfare state up and running. The taxes via spending along with other international flows in trade and finance are then skimmed by the cosmopolitans for fun, power, and pleasure.

This kind of universal state either collapses via wars (see 1914-45, the American Revolution through the the Revolutions of 184

or internally such as the Reformation, the Roman Empire, etc.

Posted by: whig at October 21, 2019 06:04 PM (MItID)

510 >>> Trump is nothing more or less than an American. Bold, brash, loud, large appetites, and larger love for the country. That Our Betters find that horrifying is clarifying indeed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 21, 2019 05:58 PM (GbPPJ)

Perfectly stated. How do you boil all the points down so succinctly and eloquently, is this lawyer black magic? Jealous of your gifts always, Alex.

Posted by: LizLem at October 21, 2019 06:06 PM (hvf9s)

511 L Lurker I say she Was Georgia and she was from Virginia,

Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2019 06:08 PM (UUkQp)

512 I cannot be the only professional-class Trump voter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 21, 2019 05:15 PM (I2dne)

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You're not. If you look at polling from 2016, Trump won the upper income, both $100K+ a year and $250K+ a year demo.

The toothless, uneducated hillbilly Trump voter is a myth the left created. And nobody's ever really pushed back on it, including Trump himself.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (FiUMj)

Hell, they say the same thing about every Republican probably since Taft. He's dumb, his supporters are dumb, we so good. This particular class attack has been part of the arsenal for generations and is by no means specific to Trumpers. It has always been part of the tale for the 'neverTrumpers' and insiders to cling to, that they are better than the regular GOP.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 06:08 PM (FTPn0)

513 Oldcat, they also hate Trump because he's bringing the law down on their heads.

Posted by: booknlass at October 21, 2019 06:10 PM (xIKXj)

514 The regulative fiction among the local wine moms is that I'm packing a horse cock. This will stay true until I run out of quaaludes and/or wine.

Posted by: Fritz at October 21, 2019 06:10 PM (kLDv+)

515 Some Deep Staters (like the Enviro Evangelicals) believe in the mythology. Others only believe it in part but find it a useful way to hold positions of importance that come with pay and influence often at odds with their own average capabilities.

Does it matter if one actually believes the fiction or only believes in its utility? Well, if one can destroy the utility of the fiction then one can potentially destroy the allegiance to it. That of course would mean making "service" in the Feral Government and the follow up service in K Street and assorted industries far less attractive. Is that likely? Probably not, even with President Trump. The spending continues unabated and the ever increasing roles of the Feral Government are always the topic, never the reduction of its role.

As for the true believers? Well, they'll always be the Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungle, waiting for the end or a chance to fight the crusade again.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 21, 2019 06:12 PM (BRpqW)

516 NeverTrump complain about Trump's ego but give Maverick a full throat defense

Yet. Everything Maverick did (may he rot in his grace, maggot shitting on his eviscerated corpse) was for his own ego.

He couched it in terms of 'service to his country' but it was his ego.

Posted by: Blanco at October 21, 2019 06:13 PM (HltPS)

517 SO very, very spot-on, AtC !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 21, 2019 06:18 PM (bwo3w)

518 The Trump haters? Not so much. They hate Trump but they can't give you a reason why. They sputter out the usual talking points and that's it.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 21, 2019 05:17 PM (NFEMn)

I walked into a local pub (wearing my Trump 2020 hat, of course) and this dude goes ape-shits cookoo upon the very sight of the red lid. His outrage de jour was the amount of people in prison. I asked him how many were in prison and he goes to his smart phone. "oh, no no no no no no NO!" I exclaimed. "You are pissed and don't know what you are talking about?" I told him that there were roughly 116,000 in the federal prison system, and a quarter of that number were illegal aliens.

He stormed out.

They have BS on their side. Not one original thought amongst them.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at October 21, 2019 06:20 PM (Vy7tf)

519 Oldcat, they also hate Trump because he's bringing the law down on their heads.
Posted by: booknlass at October 21, 2019 06:10 PM (xIKXj)

He's threatening to, but so far they have deflected that with minimal losses. The real damage there is that he brings the crimes into the open rather than getting actual convictions.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 21, 2019 06:24 PM (FTPn0)

520 The problem is, if the popular vote totals in 2016 are any indication, only 47% of the country are sick of the elites and their faux competence. That leaves 53% perfectly content to continue giving the rent-seekers power as long as they get a little taste of the largess as well.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 21, 2019 06:37 PM (fp0Sr)

521 The problem is, if the popular vote totals in 2016 are any indication, only 47% of the country are sick of the elites and their faux competence. That leaves 53% perfectly content to continue giving the rent-seekers power as long as they get a little taste of the largess as well.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at October 21, 2019 06:37 PM (fp0Sr)
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Indeed. The Electoral College is saving our republic right now.

Posted by: Axeman at October 21, 2019 06:53 PM (DuZls)

522 but with all due respect, Lamont, a lot of promises have been kept since the 2016 election, and so many of those votes counted in the popular vote were fraudulent, that I would wager more are ready to go with POTUS this time.

in LA County alone, more than 1 million are being purged from the voter rolls as we speak. thanks to JW

Posted by: booknlass at October 21, 2019 06:58 PM (xIKXj)

523 You always give a dog a one syllable name. That way when you are chasing him down the street, you only have to yell, "Sam!" Or "Max!"
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Ha! My dog's name is 'Scroomie'.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 21, 2019 07:28 PM (EZLbA)

524 Basically, the world is Frank Herbert's Dune. We are supposed to support the House of our Master. Hopefully our Master is Benevolent.

Which ones are the Harkonnens? Clintons, Bushes?

Posted by: Groundhog at October 21, 2019 08:41 PM (VYwSh)

525 380 Many progs and NT'ers knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a deplorable that day, I can tell you!

Posted by: Donnie Clortho at October 21, 2019 08:56 PM (zmIA8)

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