The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Chuck Grassley is a United States Senator, which means that he is comfortable with delays and obfuscation and institutional roadblocks that prevent most things of substance from happening...ever. In fact, it is his element.

So when even he is complaining about the IG report, something is probably fishy.

All of the delays and excuses why the Horowitz IG FISA report isn’t public yet after several months of anticipation of its issues leads me to the suspicion it’s going to be “deep six” by the deep state
— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) October 22, 2019

This issue is the Rubicon for our country. If the seemingly constant law-breaking embedded in our national institutions is allowed to go on without official notice and punishment, then the relationship we the people have with our government is going to change.

This is not the grift and graft that we all expect from government. After all, government in all its forms is ripe for corruption, and most of us are never surprised by it. In fact, many of us are only surprised by the occasional emergence of an honest man.

No, this is something different, and far more malign. Using the power of the state to manipulate elections is the essence of totalitarianism. Blocking the power of the people to choose their own government is counter-revolutionary, and unfortunately has been tried to great effect in most of the world.

In fact, it is a fine indicator of an unfounded belief in elitism and credentialism and, so obvious currently, Never-Trumpism. Ask any member of the "conservative" cuckocracy his opinion of the FISA mess, and if he downplays it or mocks it, then he is the enemy.

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There is a refreshing view of the other side below the fold. I was going to lead with it but, as usual, my fellow coblogger and landsman J.J. Sefton beat me to it!

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 OT: first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:02 AM (q80AH)

2 What's going on?

Posted by: Heirloominati at October 22, 2019 11:03 AM (dYdbl)

3 When Grassley starts tweeting #TwoWeeks I will know we are sunk.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:03 AM (NVYyb)

4 First!

Posted by: Peter Danger at October 22, 2019 11:03 AM (88+cf)

5 Is this the first time that a prominent Washingtonian used the term "deep state"?

Posted by: Axeman at October 22, 2019 11:04 AM (YOhRS)

6 That chimp

MRI

Some disassembly required

Posted by: mindful webworker - sockpuppeteer to the stars... and stripes... at October 22, 2019 11:04 AM (RnSBy)

7 Wow.

Mr. Taylor is a very, very lucky guy.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 22, 2019 11:05 AM (9V81o)

8 So much for tits.

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at October 22, 2019 11:05 AM (NTkSq)

9 Barr is our only hope.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:05 AM (NVYyb)

10 Ah, new thread. I'm surprised work filters let the last one go unblocked as long as it did

Posted by: josephistan at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (7HtZB)

11 I blame Eve.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (yRAFu)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

13 The "Deep State" is full of very, very shallow people.

Two-bit barbarians in two thousand dollar suits.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (AURKQ)

14 Trump said Hillary was crazy on Hannity last night. That was awesome

Posted by: Jmel at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (y3ZMt)

15 I'd move to Alabama and vote for her, but she'd have to sit on my face to get me to move.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

16 A comment to a comment from last thread:

CROOKS: Lawless Democrats Will No Longer Allow GOP Lawmakers to View Transcripts from Impeachment Hearings (VIDEO)

How on earth do they get away with this nonsense?

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I see this as a good thing. There is really no reason to take this farce seriously with the way Dems are doing it. And it plays right into Trump's hands. Trump would have a harder time pushing back against an open impeachment process than this farce.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (sX1BW)

17 Matt Wolking (Text TRUMP to 88022)
@MattWolking
Former Obama adviser David Axelrod says of Joe Biden, "there is genuine concern that the horse many have bet on may be pulling up lame"

Anxious Democratic Establishment Asks, 'Is There Anybody Else?'

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (BqBId)

18 Packer. 20?

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (LCPmm)

19 If I were her campaign manager, I would be advising her to campaign topless.

Posted by: Furious George at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (9vQJW)

20 AL-2 (which Taylor is running for) was my district until my decamping from the former Casa Cavil. The retiring Martha Roby (who was there long enough to Get Hers, I note) was never truly satisfactory, doing just enough to get re-elected despite the knives she constantly stuck in our backs.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (AM1GF)

21 Jessica Taylor sounds fantastic and Brian Taylor must be one helluva guy to rate such a great wife

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (NVYyb)

22 Barr is our only hope.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:05 AM

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Obi Juan Sonobi at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (DMUuz)

23 Willowed

365 Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:03 AM (ZLI7

I didn't say the IG indicts.

I said no indictments and there aren't.

He can refer.

I said justice isn't coming and it's not.

Posted by: Wut at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (keBn8)

24 I love the Jessica Taylor video. My suspicious nature suggests that the basket was staged, but when you come right down to it, I don't care. An attractive blonde woman who loves this country and (apparently) isn't afraid to say so? Stage your campaign commercials all you want, dear!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (ClOmq)

25 Trump said Hillary was crazy on Hannity last night. That was awesome
Posted by: Jmel at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (y3ZMt)

He said it from The White House and MSNBC aired it live.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)

26 Jessica Taylor on "Fox and Friends" this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQASi8olKQ

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (sWM8x)

27 I think I just fell in love with Jessica Taylor.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (HB5Gm)

28 16
I see this as a good thing. There is really no reason to take this farce seriously with the way Dems are doing it. And it plays right into Trump's hands. Trump would have a harder time pushing back against an open impeachment process than this farce.
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (sX1BW)

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The media will do their utmost to hold up this process, but thankfully they've been repeatedly shooting themselves in the dick for years and have significantly less power with the American people than they did in 2007.

National polls may be getting massaged to show impeachment is popular, but the battleground polls are much more resistant. They're consistently showing impeachment unpopular.

Nancy won't pull the trigger.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (q80AH)

29

Jefferson asked Washington why he agreed to have a Senate.

"Why," said Washington, "did you just now pour that coffee into your saucer before drinking it?"

"To cool it," said Jefferson; "my throat is not made of brass."

"Even so," said Washington, "we pour our legislation into the Senatorial saucer to cool it."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 22, 2019 11:10 AM (aKsyK)

30 take 39 ... thank God she made the shot, that's a wrap.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 11:10 AM (Cus5s)

31 17 Matt Wolking (Text TRUMP to 88022)
@MattWolking
Former Obama adviser David Axelrod says of Joe Biden, "there is genuine concern that the horse many have bet on may be pulling up lame"

Anxious Democratic Establishment Asks, 'Is There Anybody Else?'
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (BqBId)

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Hahahahaha!

No.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:10 AM (q80AH)

32 I said justice isn't coming and it's not.
Posted by: Wut at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (keBn

I agree with you. It will all be resolved with a "training session" and a few boyish giggles.

Posted by: CN at October 22, 2019 11:11 AM (U7k5w)

33 oh good Grassley tweeted something. I'm sure the deep state is scared shitless.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:11 AM (FiUMj)

34 There are so many hot conservative women running for office or getting involved.

The left has Tulsi....and maybe one or two more.

Liberalism.....ugly on the inside, leaking outward.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

35 Pretty sure Abel called Caine a Motherfucker.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (yRAFu)

36 I watched a few episodes of Are You Being Served recently, so when I finished watching that Alabama video, the image was replaced by one of Mrs. Slocombe.

It was quite the shock.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (FTlwv)

37 Former Obama adviser David Axelrod says of Joe Biden, "there is genuine concern that the horse many have bet on may be pulling up lame"

Anxious Democratic Establishment Asks, 'Is There Anybody Else?'
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (BqBId)

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Hahahahaha!

No.

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For a brief moment in time, people (on both sides) took Joe Biden seriously as a presidential contender.

That may be crazier than Hillary.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (sX1BW)

38 My Congress Critter looks nothing like this

This is bullshit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (2exXg)

39 Posted by: Wut at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (keBn

******
I mean this with all seriousness, But how do you live?? you are worried to death that something you have no fucking control over isn't going to happen?? are the snipers in the grassy knoll for you too ?

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (BqBId)

40 24 I love the Jessica Taylor video. My suspicious nature suggests that the basket was staged, but when you come right down to it, I don't care. An attractive blonde woman who loves this country and (apparently) isn't afraid to say so? Stage your campaign commercials all you want, dear!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (ClOmq)

I'm willing to believe she made the basket, but I'm sure it took multiple takes to get that shot.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (NWiLs)

41 Dems spend months/years behind the scenes plotting a coup. Republicans like Grassley tweet stuff.

Left wants to win
Right wants to lose with dignity

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (FiUMj)

42 "Even so," said Washington, "we pour our legislation into the Senatorial saucer to cool it."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 22, 2019 11:10 AM (aKsyK)

Now re-work that little parable for the Executive Branch, and slurping your coffee straight out of the mug.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (AURKQ)

43 Love ya' CBD, but the consent of the governed no longer matters. A crucial majority of the people want to be ruled, not governed, and so they don't care about the shenanigans of the elites so long as the EBT card works and the weed is potent and plentiful. Jerry Pournelle was a prophet!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (RD7QR)

44 37 For a brief moment in time, people (on both sides) took Joe Biden seriously as a presidential contender.

That may be crazier than Hillary.
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (sX1BW)

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I did.

I thought he would campaign like he had never campaigned before: well.

I was wrong. He's campaigned horribly. In less than 4 months, he's going to end up, at best, 3rd in Iowa, 2nd in New Hampshire, and 2nd in SC.

Then he'll just vanish. It's the Jeb Bush act.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (q80AH)

45 Just under 13 months of escalating madness til we vote. Hang on tight to loved ones...

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (T9rmq)

46 >>Barr is our only hope.

He always was.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (ZLI7S)

47 She needs to license "Centerfield" for her campaign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fekT1hlgcKc

btw, this is my favorite video of that piece. You'll see why.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (Kpl3J)

48 Andrew McCabe just called and asked Alabama voters to choose someone other than Jessica Taylor.

The he said Free as a bird, hahaha!!, and hung up on me. What a prick.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (NVYyb)

49
My suspicious nature suggests that the basket was staged,
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

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Well, she played basketball in high school. Maybe she practiced up to that move, maybe it took a couple of takes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (Xm5XV)

50 Barr is our only hope.

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So you're saying we have no hope?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (FiUMj)

51 Then he'll just vanish. It's the Jeb Bush act.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (q80AH)
******
Please Clap

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (BqBId)

52 Pretty sure Abel called Caine a Motherfucker.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM

And that's when the Mutiny started, Your Honor.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (DMUuz)

53 I will be quite happy if the IG report actually lays shit out and doesn't pull the usual caveats the previous ones have. However I fully expect a bunch of weasel words allowing the deep state DOJ to wash it all away. And then we'll be told how that bullshit is actually a major victory for us and that we're all stupid for actually expecting more. Just like Lois Lerner retiring with her full pension was a "major victory"

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (GQznZ)

54 For a brief moment in time, people (on both sides) took Joe Biden seriously as a presidential contender.

That may be crazier than Hillary.
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Biden pulls 60% support among blacks. Warren and Bernie, not so much. As long as that remains stasis Biden is the nominee.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (yRAFu)

55 Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (FiUMj)
*******
Isn't there a daunting Haunting poll for Trump for you to post?

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (BqBId)

56 46 >>Barr is our only hope.

He always was.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (ZLI7S)

But what about Rosenstein, Sessions, Horowitz, the Great?

Posted by: Snoreregard forevah! at October 22, 2019 11:15 AM (U7k5w)

57 40 24 I love the Jessica Taylor video. My suspicious nature suggests that the basket was staged, but when you come right down to it, I don't care. An attractive blonde woman who loves this country and (apparently) isn't afraid to say so? Stage your campaign commercials all you want, dear!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2019 11:09 AM (ClOmq)

I'm willing to believe she made the basket, but I'm sure it took multiple takes to get that shot.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019

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If so, she made it look as easy as the first time. That's pro talent, the kind of person the camera loves.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2019 11:15 AM (ClOmq)

58 Even if the IG report is subtanstial it will

a. be ignored by the MSM

and

b. ignored by the DOJ

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:15 AM (FiUMj)

59 I will be quite happy if the IG report actually lays shit out and doesn't pull the usual caveats the previous ones have. However I fully expect a bunch of weasel words allowing the deep state DOJ to wash it all away. And then we'll be told how that bullshit is actually a major victory for us and that we're all stupid for actually expecting more. Just like Lois Lerner retiring with her full pension was a "major victory"
Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (GQznZ)

I'm afraid I agree

Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2019 11:15 AM (NFEMn)

60 52 Pretty sure Abel called Caine a Motherfucker.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM

I'll bet that left a mark.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)

61 I find it amazing that they are allowing this to be slow walked.

And that no one seems to have leaked it.

Posted by: Don Quixote at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (NgKpN)

62 Pretty sure Abel called Caine a Motherfucker.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM

When God plays favorites and the favored one is almost certainly a smug prick about it, it tends to breed resentment.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (NWiLs)

63 Seems relevant that a senior senator like Grassley is even using the term "Deep State." While it probably won't lead to much, it is a slight moving of the Overton Window on our side. With the NYT article yesterday, there is now a bi-partisan consensus that the Deep State exists and is up to shennanigans. We would not have been here 2 years ago.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (sX1BW)

64 For a brief moment in time, people (on both sides) took Joe Biden seriously as a presidential contender.

That may be crazier than Hillary.
Posted by: SH

Joe Biden is a stupid, obnoxious leering A-hole. Nobody could take this guy seriously, except the lame brains in the Democrat Party. He, like so many others in this stupid morass of a government, is a dumb incompetent.

NO,NO NO!

There is no justice coming. We are going to be well and truly screwed. Learn to live with it, or otherwise we start a real revolution, and mean it.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (vcOmj)

65 Isn't there a daunting Haunting poll for Trump for you to post?
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:14 AM (BqBId)

___

#TwoWeeks
#TickTok
#SeanSays

Amirite?

Oh and yes Trump's polling last few days has been atrocious, thanks for asking.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (FiUMj)

66
>>All of the delays and excuses why the Horowitz IG FISA report isn't public yet after several months of anticipation of its issues leads me to the suspicion it's going to be "deep six" by the deep state

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He's suspicious?

Thank God we have 11-dimensional chess geniuses like Chuck Grassley on our side.

By the way, does Chuck Grassley have any influence in Washington? Like, if only he were a long-serving, high-ranking member of a federal legislative body, he might be able to fight the Deep State on our behalf.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (Xm5XV)

67 Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (BqBId

Ironic coming from a clown who posts multiple times a day "proof" that the DS is scared and justice is coming.

And yet we have nothing.

You're the Maddow of the right.

Posted by: Wut at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (keBn8)

68 If so, she made it look as easy as the first time. That's pro talent, the kind of person the camera loves.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2019 11:15 AM (ClOmq)

Yep. Cameras don't love me, that's for sure.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (NWiLs)

69 He always was.

Says the guy who counted successively on Sessions, Rosenstein, Huber, and Horowitz.

Being down to our last hope to save justice in the Republic is not a happy thought. Thank heavens, though, for PDJT. He fights.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (NVYyb)

70 Jessica Taylor sure looks and talks great, but it sure looks to me like she is pro grifter. Her company is azimuth, which is a consulting firm for finding grant money.
https://tinyurl.com/y5u9mfso
"Within four months of retaining Azimuth, a foundation client received a federal grant over $1 million, tripling its annual income."

Posted by: ghbucky at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (s9Eo8)

71 I said justice isn't coming and it's not.

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You tell 'em I'm coming! And Hell's coming with me you hear! Hell's coming with me!

Posted by: Crazy A** Progressive Bull**** at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (+y/Ru)

72 Whatever is gonna come out better come out soon...This impeachment thing is snowballing...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (O2RFr)

73 Oh, and perky blonde is perky. I'm betting she makes little squeaky noises.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (RD7QR)

74 I've been pissed about Grassley's tweet since yesterday. This whole farce reeks of corruption.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (wiXsO)

75 I'm willing to believe she made the basket, but I'm sure it took multiple takes to get that shot.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019

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If so, she made it look as easy as the first time. That's pro talent, the kind of person the camera loves.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2019 11:15 AM (ClOmq)

*coughs*

Posted by: Dude Perfect at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (XiVKO)

76 63 Seems relevant that a senior senator like Grassley is even using the term "Deep State." While it probably won't lead to much, it is a slight moving of the Overton Window on our side. With the NYT article yesterday, there is now a bi-partisan consensus that the Deep State exists and is up to shennanigans. We would not have been here 2 years ago.
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (sX1BW)

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This is something I had not noted, but I agree.

It's now orthodoxy across the political spectrum that we are being ruled by an unelected bureaucratic class.

That's going to make some interesting motions in the federal government over the next couple of decades.

Imagine what civil service reform would look like in 2023 with Trump still president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (q80AH)

77 I love that a GOP candidate is running on American values and supporting Trump.

If the Left had planned on either of those being driven from polite society, they've failed. The more deviance and Trump hate they push, the more we'll push back.

And does it need to be pointed out? Breath of fresh air compared to icky, messy CA Rep. Katie Hill.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (bDqIh)

78 From Fusion Ken Dilanian

>>WASHINGTON A review launched by Attorney General William Barr into the origins of the Russia investigation has expanded significantly amid concerns about whether the probe has any legal or factual basis, multiple current and former officials told NBC News

>>The prosecutor conducting the review Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham has expressed his intent to interview a number of current and former intelligence officials involved in examining Russias effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election including former CIA Director John Brennan and former director of national intelligence James Clapper Brennan told NBC News.

>>Durham has also requested to talk to CIA analysts involved in the intelligence assessment of Russias activities, prompting some of them to hire lawyers according to three former CIA officials familiar with the matter And there is tension between the CIA and the Justice Department over what classified documents Durham can examine two people familiar with the matter said

https://tinyurl.com/y4fhcdw8

Why is Fusion Ken at NBC reporting that people are lawyering up if nothing is happening?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

79 I promise! End of the week! Indictments! Bombshells! Bombshells, I say!

Posted by: Joe DiGenova at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (7xila)

80 I watched a few episodes of Are You Being Served recently, so when I finished watching that Alabama video, the image was replaced by one of Mrs. Slocombe.

It was quite the shock.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 22, 2019 11:12 AM (FTlwv)

It could have been worse. It could have been Mr. Humphries in one of his more flamboyant outfits.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (+/C3g)

81 Jerry Pournelle was a prophet!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (RD7QR)

Borloi?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (wYseH)

82 I find it amazing that they are allowing this to be slow walked.

And that no one seems to have leaked it.
Posted by: Don Quixote

You'll get nothing and Like It!

Nothing is coming. And even if some YUGE report is issued, the Media will pull out selective quotes to feed to the LIV and assure them that ALL IS WELL, except for the evil Republicans.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (vcOmj)

83 https://washex.am/2qD7PCZ
*******
The great divide
by Fred Barnes
October 17, 2019 11:00 PM
******
Hey Bill KristolMeth's Mistress is heard from

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (BqBId)

84 There is no justice coming. We are going to be well and truly screwed. Learn to live with it, or otherwise we start a real revolution, and mean it.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (vcOmj)

Justice is a comfortable lie we get sold from the time we're little.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (NWiLs)

85 When God plays favorites and the favored one is almost certainly a smug prick about it, it tends to breed resentment.

Posted by: Insomniac>>
Tell me about it.

Posted by: Joseph at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (NTkSq)

86 The NeverTrumpers are the ones who bet all their stack on Biden. Now they're trying to back Buttiegieg and write the Conservative Case for Buttfuckery and Babykilling, but it isn't working out for them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (Kpl3J)

87 Hey Insom, Nurse loves you, who cares about the camera?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (a4EWo)

88 69 He always was.

Says the guy who counted successively on Sessions, Rosenstein, Huber, and Horowitz.

Being down to our last hope to save justice in the Republic is not a happy thought. Thank heavens, though, for PDJT. He fights.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (NVYyb)

I'm convinced that "trust the plan" bullshit was created to tamp down anger on the part of conservatives, and that Q is a donk FBI asset.

Posted by: CN at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (U7k5w)

89 Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
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Deep State Delanian

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (BqBId)

90 When God plays favorites and the favored one is almost certainly a smug prick about it, it tends to breed resentment.
Posted by: Insomniac

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Tell me about it.
Posted by: Joseph at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM

This.

Posted by: Tom Smothers at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (DMUuz)

91 Former Obama adviser David Axelrod says of Joe Biden, "there is genuine concern that the horse many have bet on may be pulling up lame"

A frontrunner doesn't have to give good odds.

Those who bet on lesser candidates stand to cash in on those bribes.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (NpvYf)

92 Biden is exactly what the Democrats think Trump is - a loud mouthed dumbass. Trump is actually a loud mouthed genius. They thought Biden would be a good match against Trump because of style. But they forgot that Biden is ~100 IQ points below Trump.

Posted by: Chris M at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (eAZVt)

93 81 Jerry Pournelle was a prophet!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:13 AM (RD7QR)

Borloi?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (wYseH)

Or at least much more potent weed than you and I got in our youth.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (RD7QR)

94 Any chance of moving Wray out of the FBI and putting a "reformer" in?

Hah!

Posted by: FloridaMan at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (7xila)

95 New rules/outrage: Trump said lynching.

It has never once in history been used to describe a mob attacking a white person.

In fact, no white person can use that word without permission.

It is now an impeachable;e offense

Posted by: Ripley at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (MxEKc)

96 85 When God plays favorites and the favored one is almost certainly a smug prick about it, it tends to breed resentment.

Posted by: Insomniac>>
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Joseph at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (NTkSq)

Yeah, you kinda had it coming.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (NWiLs)

97 Imagine what civil service reform would look like in 2023 with Trump still president.

------------

Entitlement reform would always be tough.

But civil service reform seems doable - should we gain control over all branches.

I hope for the best.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (sX1BW)

98 I'll say to Senator Grassley, "Get off your dead ass and start doing the right thing. Pressure them to stop their bullshit and tell us the truth. And if laws were broken, then the criminals need to be punished like one of us would be punished."

"Stop this bullshit and get serious. Live up to your oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the principles upon which it rests."

"We are watching you."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (HaL55)

99 Sure, no one should be uncritical of Jessica Taylor simply because she's put out a charming campaign ad. Corruption happens on both sides of the aisle.

But who are you, "ghbucky "?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (bDqIh)

100 In the long run, the so-called "American Experiment" is dead. We may muddle on for another couple decades, or even a century, but the only result of the experiment is that representative governance is impossible in any sufficiently large polity. And i might throw in a corollary about rapid technological expansion too....

It was a good run while it lasted, but the only really operative principle in political theory is Vae victis.

Oh well.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (AURKQ)

101 They have been "lawyering up" for a while, but nothing happens. It's been bullshit so far.

Posted by: CN at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (U7k5w)

102 But who are you, "ghbucky "?

Lurker

Posted by: ghbucky at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (s9Eo8)

103 It's late to say this, by a short bit, but I will say it anyway.

I like those days when JJ, in his own way, reminds me of grandma's cooking.

Posted by: Miklos, where is kompot at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (QzkSJ)

104 DeepState had their "special handling" section of the FBI (Strzok et al) to cover up for Hillary, and to frame Trump.

We can certainly assume/hope/pray that TheWhiteHats have their own team ... they know the bad guys, they are in the NSA, the perceive the threat to the Republic ...

But we keep seeing the sleepers in the bureaucracy making headlines (fake whistle blowers, leakers) ... and Barr/Durham/Pompeo seem to be doing some of the "field work" themselves. Giuliani involved in Ukraine, but his "friends/witnesses" get arrested, wtf?

Hard to read all the tea leaves ... indictments and dawn raids of the coup plotters would give the citizenry hope, instead of Grassley saying the IG report seems under the control of the coup plotters ...

tick tock.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (Cus5s)

105 No, Biden
No, PA,NC, or OH

Someone at the DNC can do basic math

Posted by: Jean at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (fzIXG)

106 Biden pulls 60% support among blacks. Warren and Bernie, not so much. As long as that remains stasis Biden is the nominee.

Hard to believe, but yeah, it doesn't say much for black America.

Of course, none of those named say much for Democrat America.

Posted by: JEM at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (8erNz)

107 86 The NeverTrumpers are the ones who bet all their stack on Biden. Now they're trying to back Buttiegieg and write the Conservative Case for Buttfuckery and Babykilling, but it isn't working out for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (Kpl3J)

Bootygig is a nonentity. All he's got is gay and it ain't enough. It's Warren's nomination to lose.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (RD7QR)

108 Grassley signaling what we already know - nothing will come of this. Yet he is already trying to stage the battlefield against the Deep State.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (sX1BW)

109 Former Obama adviser David Axelrod says of Joe Biden, "there is genuine concern that the horse many have bet on may be pulling up lame"

Pulls up lame?

He was a shit candidate for Owebama and is a shit candidate now.

Fuck you and your corrupt, deep state bullshit.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

110 Allow me to point out that True Justice ALWAYS comes, for everyone. Each day it gets one day closer.

Our problem is that we desperately want the pleasure of seeing True Justice come for other people before it comes for us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (Kpl3J)

111 97 Imagine what civil service reform would look like in 2023 with Trump still president.

------------

Entitlement reform would always be tough.

But civil service reform seems doable - should we gain control over all branches.

I hope for the best.
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:20 AM (sX1BW)

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I don't think Trump cares about entitlement reform. He was never the vehicle for that. I'd believe Paul Ryan actually wanted entitlement reform before I'd believe Trump wanted it, and I don't believe Paul Ryan actually wanted it.

But civil service reform? I don't think he had that particular goal in mind, but after a first term where he's constantly fucked over by anonymous and impossible to fire "civil servants", I could imagine him taking up that sword and leading that fight out of pure spite.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (q80AH)

112 Jessica Taylor. Yes please.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 22, 2019 11:23 AM (0W3mK)

113 99 Sure, no one should be uncritical of Jessica Taylor simply because she's put out a charming campaign ad. Corruption happens on both sides of the aisle.

But who are you, "ghbucky "?
Posted by: Lizzy
__________

What's wrong with posting under the name "ghbucky?"

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at October 22, 2019 11:23 AM (9vQJW)

114 13 The "Deep State" is full of very, very shallow people.

Two-bit barbarians in two thousand dollar suits.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (AURKQ)

Emptyheaded go-alongs with unearned credentials, pretending to be enlightened elites.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 11:23 AM (J+mig)

115 61 I find it amazing that they are allowing this to be slow walked.

And that no one seems to have leaked it.
Posted by: Don Quixote at October 22, 2019 11:16 AM (NgKpN)
---------

Two Thoughts:

1. Barr & company are playing by the rules. No leaks

2. Report is damaging that no Dem wants to address directly so what your seeing is a 'discredit" campaign to blunt the report in the form of Impeachment proceedings going into high gear and the MSM going with "Conspiracy theory" narrative.

3. IG report being delayed for major redactions but more importantly, to make sure point 2 above gets traction.

Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2019 11:23 AM (G0vdT)

116 Tell me about it.
Posted by: Joseph at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (NTkSq)

Yeah, you kinda had it coming.
Posted by: Insomniac

That jacket just POPS!

Posted by: Millennial fashion conscious Miklos at October 22, 2019 11:23 AM (QzkSJ)

117 Make that three thoughts.

Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2019 11:24 AM (G0vdT)

118 >>They have been "lawyering up" for a while, but nothing happens. It's been bullshit so far.

But I thought the process was the punishment?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)

119 Imagine what civil service reform would look like in 2023 with Trump still president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger

Article 308.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at October 22, 2019 11:24 AM (AM1GF)

120 33 oh good Grassley tweeted something. I'm sure the deep state is scared shitless.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:11 AM (FiUMj)

Yes. Remember all the lying Kavanaugh accusers that Grassley held to account? Me neither.

Posted by: FloridaMan at October 22, 2019 11:24 AM (7xila)

121 70 Jessica Taylor sure looks and talks great, but it sure looks to me like she is pro grifter. Her company is azimuth, which is a consulting firm for finding grant money.
https://tinyurl.com/y5u9mfso
"Within four months of retaining Azimuth, a foundation client received a federal grant over $1 million, tripling its annual income."
Posted by: ghbucky at October 22, 2019 11:17 AM (s9Eo

____

LOL.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (FiUMj)

122 106 Biden pulls 60% support among blacks. Warren and Bernie, not so much. As long as that remains stasis Biden is the nominee.

Hard to believe, but yeah, it doesn't say much for black America.

Of course, none of those named say much for Democrat America.
Posted by: JEM at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (8erNz)'

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The only state in the first four primary/caucus states with a significant enough black population is SC. Assuming he wins SC (which I doubt), he's prone to losing the other three.

If he loses 3 of 4 races, does he take that to go and win the rest of the primary? I don't think it's ever been done, and I don't think Biden's the one to make that happen and break that historical trend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (q80AH)

123 #twoweeks!

Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (Bf3hj)

124 Barr is our only hope.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
.........

So, you mean we are doomed, right?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (so+oy)

125 >>They have been "lawyering up" for a while, but nothing happens. It's been bullshit so far.

But I thought the process was the punishment?

Posted by: JackStraw

Unlike us, they have individuals and foundations with deep pockets to foot the bill and/or make them whole.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (AM1GF)

126 Jessica Taylor's basket may have been staged but who are you going to take in a game of one-on-one, her or Obama?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (Uu+Jp)

127 Babylon Bee. Hilz escaping. Please view.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (C1Lsn)

128 >>What's wrong with posting under the name "ghbucky?"

Heh. Lurker or otherwise, we get the one-name trolls peddling ActBlue talking points and links often enough that I am skeptical.
Whatever.
If she is corrupt in her business I have no doubt the MSM will cover it with great enthusiasm.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (bDqIh)

129 I don't think Trump cares about entitlement reform. He was never the vehicle for that. I'd believe Paul Ryan actually wanted entitlement reform before I'd believe Trump wanted it, and I don't believe Paul Ryan actually wanted it.

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I don't either. Nor does much of the public. Right or wrong, the worker bees support SS & Medicare because they "paid in". So yes, they want their's at the end.

But civil service reform .... that is something the worker bees can get behind. Why do these federal employee grifters get such protections, days off, better pay to screw me when I'm just trying to earn a living ... and oh yeah, while also trying to enact a coup against the person we elected as President.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (sX1BW)

130 Are we sure Trump isn't managing the release to affect election at the right moment?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (nRWPy)

131
I see this as a good thing. There is really no reason to take this farce seriously with the way Dems are doing it. And it plays right into Trump's hands. Trump would have a harder time pushing back against an open impeachment process than this farce.
Posted by: SH

========

At this point, if I were the Republicans, I'd ignore it totally, give it no air, just go do something else. MSM would start prodding them for reactions and they should just laugh. "I don't know, I don't care, go ask Schiff, he's the head clown over there."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (Xm5XV)

132 Barr is our only hope.

___

So you're saying we have no hope?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker

Zero. Zip. Nada. Nein.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (TnoDk)

133 129 But civil service reform .... that is something the worker bees can get behind. Why do these federal employee grifters get such protections, days off, better pay to screw me when I'm just trying to earn a living ... and oh yeah, while also trying to enact a coup against the person we elected as President.
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (sX1BW)

==========

And, of course, spite.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

134 Somehow I don't remember the Obama, Bush, or even Clinton DOJ relying on, or playing back seat to the IG. DO your own damn investigating.

Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (Bf3hj)

135 A republic if you can keep it.

- Ben Franklin

We couldn't.

- Reality

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

136 It's a fantasy that Dems are scared of the IG report. It's a joke to them. Barr and everyone else at the DOJ has clearly shown no interest in pursuing any of it. The Dems are like mob bosses who have the entire police force and every judge on the payroll. They have zero worries.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (FiUMj)

137 107 86 The NeverTrumpers are the ones who bet all their stack on Biden. Now they're trying to back Buttiegieg and write the Conservative Case for Buttfuckery and Babykilling, but it isn't working out for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (Kpl3J)

Bootygig is a nonentity. All he's got is gay and it ain't enough. It's Warren's nomination to lose.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:22 AM (RD7QR)

If I'm gonna vote for a mayor for president it's going to be the hellspawn that is mayor of Knox County Tennessee.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (GQznZ)

138 But I thought the process was the punishment?
That's for the plebes, process, delay, adulation and a book deal is for the deep state.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (r+sAi)

139 Why isn't Fusion Ken lawyered up AND unemployed?

Posted by: Jean at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (EhJId)

140 131 At this point, if I were the Republicans, I'd ignore it totally, give it no air, just go do something else. MSM would start prodding them for reactions and they should just laugh. "I don't know, I don't care, go ask Schiff, he's the head clown over there."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (Xm5XV)

=========

You know what never gets talked about anymore?

Judicial appointments.

You know what hasn't stopped?

Judicial appointments.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

141 Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (bDqIh)

You mean like.... Lizzy?

Posted by: ghbucky at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (s9Eo8)

142 100 In the long run, the so-called "American Experiment" is dead. We may muddle on for another couple decades, or even a century, but the only result of the experiment is that representative governance is impossible in any sufficiently large polity. And i might throw in a corollary about rapid technological expansion too....

It was a good run while it lasted, but the only really operative principle in political theory is Vae victis.

Oh well.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (AURKQ)

It worked as long as we paid lip service to the notion of subsidiarity. The more power we have allowed the central government, the less functional and more contentious our politics becomes, and the less governable the system is. The New Deal and other Progressive policies have done mortal damage to representative government, seeing it replaced by the slow imposition of top-down bureaucratism.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (J+mig)

143 But who are you, "ghbucky "?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (bDqIh)

....why lurkers lurk instead of post.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (2GPSc)

144 If she is corrupt in her business I have no doubt the MSM will cover it with great enthusiasm.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2019 11:26 AM (bDqIh)

This.

Conservatives better be squeaky clean if they're running because the media will be up their ass with a microscope without lube in an instant.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

145 I'm moving to Alabama so I can put Jessica Taylor in the game.

Posted by: OCBill at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (Ij9pi)

146 126 Jessica Taylor's basket may have been staged but who are you going to take in a game of one-on-one, her or Obama?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 22, 2019 11:25 AM (Uu+Jp)

The "One" would still be wearing mom jeans and hoisting basketballs up long after the crew had died of old age, not to mention the verbal flubs trying to read off the teleprompter-in-chief.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (+/C3g)

147 You know what hasn't stopped?

-----------

RBG

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (sX1BW)

148 I didn't consider Joe Biden a viable candidate way before it was cool to not consider Joe Biden a viable candidate.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (1ISKN)

149 "Why is Fusion Ken at NBC reporting that people are lawyering up if nothing is happening?"Posted by: JackStraw

innocent people also have to lawyer up ... remember they were so clever to get Flynn to talk to them without a lawyer. But sure, I hope it is because the real criminals in the woodwork are being smoked out.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (Cus5s)

150
Unlike us, they have individuals and foundations with deep pockets to foot the bill and/or make them whole.
Posted by: Brother Cavil

=======

As I understand it, those individuals and foundations are us.

Lois Lerner had four-figure-an-hour lawyers defending her for her perfidy against taxpayers -- on the taxpayers' dime.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (Xm5XV)

151 Any time I hear the word reform from a politician, I get scared. Entitlement Reform will mean I will end up with fewer benefits and pay more taxes. That's what reform really means, more taxes on the productive class and more benefits for the moochers. Fuck that.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (FiUMj)

152 147 You know what hasn't stopped?

-----------

RBG
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (sX1BW)

=========

Hate and aborted baby blood sacrificed to the Old Gods are powerful forces to keep a body moving. I gotta admit that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (q80AH)

153 And, of course, spite.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

Donald Trump's Scottish roots often show. Nobody does spite better than a Scot.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (J+mig)

154 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (ZqRa6)

155 Jessica Taylor

Swoon!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (1XNk8)

156 The office of the IG announced this morning the report will once again be delayed. But have no fear, the delay is simply because the investigation has gone galactic! There is some evidence Ben Rhodes may not be human.

Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (Bf3hj)

157 When is the California primary?

Posted by: Jean at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (EhJId)

158 But I thought the process was the punishment?
Posted by: JackStraw

*yawns, schedules pedicure*

Posted by: Lois Lerner at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (QzkSJ)

159 Politics is incredibly stupid. Also, incredibly important.

Posted by: Chris M at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (eAZVt)

160 154 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (ZqRa6)

===========

Well, credit card companies will still vote for Bernie over Trump because of how uncouth Trump is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (q80AH)

161
I didn't consider Joe Biden a viable candidate way before it was cool to not consider Joe Biden a viable candidate.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe>>
Joe stopped being viable after run number one. I don't see how he has hung on, really.

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (NTkSq)

162 The only thing the dems are ever afraid of is bad optics.

The possibility of them going to jail isn't even on their radar.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (1ISKN)

163 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."

---------------

Couldn't happen to a collective group that supported Obamacare as much as anyone.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (sX1BW)

164
I didn't consider Joe Biden a viable candidate way before it was cool to not consider Joe Biden a viable candidate.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

========

Well, watch this. I consider Biden the winner for the nomination before it's cool to consider him the winner!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:31 AM (Xm5XV)

165 I'm convinced that "trust the plan" bullshit was created to tamp down anger on the part of conservatives, and that Q is a donk FBI asset.

If it is, why is Trump still in office? There is no point in pretending, they should just take power and be done with it.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 11:31 AM (g0Lfb)

166 Why just medical debt?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:31 AM (AURKQ)

167
No, this is something different, and far more malign.

-------

It's all of the government - not just the Coup Cucks Clan. I thought that the State of CO spending six years in an effort to break the will of a kindly old baker and bring him to the heel of the gay-rights movement was bad.

But this case in Dallas speaks to something even darker. That is plain old lunatical totalitarianism.

These people are lunging for total power, and won't be stopped short of force.

When Trump got elected and spoiled their plans to do this incrementally, they took the gloves off and went bare-knuckles.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 22, 2019 11:31 AM (AzW6q)

168 You know what never gets talked about anymore?

Judicial appointments.

You know what hasn't stopped?

Judicial appointments.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:27 AM (q80AH)

___

And that's good. But while all these judges are being appointed, Obama/Clinton judges still, on a weekly basis, strike down every Trump initiative. It's like how even when the GOP runs the senate, Shumer still calls the shots.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:31 AM (FiUMj)

169 154 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken
____________

It's not an uncompensated taking, it's a tax! Woo hoo!

* goes through mail, looking for check *

Posted by: Chief "Justice" John Roberts at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (9vQJW)

170 Lois Lerner had four-figure-an-hour lawyers defending her for her perfidy against taxpayers -- on the taxpayers' dime.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

What a joker!

Tell me another one.

Posted by: Gen. Mike Flynn at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (QzkSJ)

171
Couldn't happen to a collective group that supported Obamacare as much as anyone.
Posted by: SH

=======

Nurses' unions. Watch your jobs go *shlurp* as we import a bunch of semi-competent southeast Asians to work for less.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (Xm5XV)

172 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (arJlL)

173 Moar Jessica Taylors and fewer AOCs, please.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (ejd/p)

174 >Conservatives better be squeaky clean if they're
running because the media will be up their ass with a microscope without
lube in an instant.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

Yes please!

Posted by: Shep! at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (sjdRT)

175 Imported from the willowed end of the previous thread:
I think from 1999.

Yet oddly relevant.

https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0042

That strip is all kinds of awesome.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 22, 2019 11:33 AM (HaL55)

176 * goes through mail, looking for check *
Posted by: Chief "Justice" John Roberts

Free adoptions of blonde, blue eyed Guatemalan babies for all!

Posted by: Alexandria Sanders-Warren at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (QzkSJ)

177 I'll bet Jessica aint got blue tits

Posted by: PIERRE LUVS COQ at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (rpxSz)

178 The New Deal and other Progressive policies have done mortal damage to representative government, seeing it replaced by the slow imposition of top-down bureaucratism.
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What was that about what would happen when the citizenry figured out they could vote themselves money from the Treasury?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (vg8iE)

179 I see this as a good thing. There is really no
reason to take this farce seriously with the way Dems are doing it. And
it plays right into Trump's hands. Trump would have a harder time
pushing back against an open impeachment process than this farce.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (sX1BW)

I don't think he would which is why they are holding sooper secret proceeding. If they were doing this in public, Trump would be mocking them on an hourly basis over every word out of their and their "witnesses' " mouths if they were doing this openly.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (F/KeJ)

180 Nurses' unions. Watch your jobs go *shlurp* as we import a bunch of semi-competent southeast Asians to work for less.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:32 AM (Xm5XV)

___

I went to the ER in Paris once upon a time. I didn't interact with any French person while there. From checking in, to nurses to the doctor I saw, to checking out, all immigrants.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (FiUMj)

181 160 154 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (ZqRa6)

===========

Well, credit card companies will still vote for Bernie over Trump because of how uncouth Trump is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:30 AM (q80AH)

I suspect that credit card companies would love to have the government create some corporatist scheme for them. Really, any sufficiently large corporation these days just yearns for some form of fascism, as far as I can tell.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (RD7QR)

182 168 And that's good. But while all these judges are being appointed, Obama/Clinton judges still, on a weekly basis, strike down every Trump initiative. It's like how even when the GOP runs the senate, Shumer still calls the shots.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:31 AM (FiUMj)

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Complaining about this is pointless and misses the point. It's how the judicial system works right now. It would be nice if SCOTUS would slap down nationwide injunctions from district judges (something that will happen eventually), but the point of these further appointments is the fact that at least a quarter of the judiciary will be appointed by Trump.

That's a theoretical conservative swing across the nation that's huge. That's making these district and circuit court adverse rulings less likely to happen in the future. The 9th Circuit, with Trump appointees, has already given Trump a few key wins.

This is the stuff that's going to last more than a generation, and brushing it off with nationwide injunctions is simply missing the point of the win. It's losing the forest for the trees.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (q80AH)

183 >>innocent people also have to lawyer up ... remember they were so clever to get Flynn to talk to them without a lawyer. But sure, I hope it is because the real criminals in the woodwork are being smoked out.

Sure they do. But they don't lawyer up if they aren't being asked questions that could put them in legal jeopardy.

You can't have it both ways. What were Barr and Durham doing in Italy? In the UK? In Australia? In Ukraine?

Why was it a big deal when it was disclosed a few days ago that Durham had recovered Mifsud's cell phones after hearing his sworn deposition in Italy?

Why did Trump ask the president of Ukraine to cooperate in the ongoing investigation of the 2016 election Barr is running?

Why is Trump going on Hannity like he did last night laying out exactly what happened?

You either believe Barr has always been a deep state plant who along with Durham is running a fake investigation or you believe he is running a real investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

184 #nevertrustalibertarian
"The social issue are about freedom!"
But when you support these supposed freedoms, the left will use them for Control. "So what, its about freeeeedom"

Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (Bf3hj)

185 "When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."
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Does that include cosmetic procedures and Botox put on credit cards of wine moms?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 22, 2019 11:35 AM (vg8iE)

186 154 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken

...and to all you suckers that actually budgeted, throttled-back, or dipped into your fat-cat-elitist savings...GET REKT!

Posted by: reason at October 22, 2019 11:35 AM (XiVKO)

187 Why not "erase" all mortgages? All car loans? All lease contracts? All short-term and long-term losses on margin? All student loan debts?

I mean, hell, if we're going to abolish the very concept of debt and leverage, why limit it to just medical obligations?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:36 AM (AURKQ)

188 Wonder if Trump could ask for dismissal from Roberts ?

Posted by: REDACTED at October 22, 2019 11:36 AM (rpxSz)

189 Why doesn't Bernie just cancel the entire national debt if he's elected?

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2019 11:36 AM (Gvpa/)

190 from an email from Bernie Sanders:

"When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."
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Joe, we need to have a talk...

Posted by: Biden's neurosurgeon at October 22, 2019 11:36 AM (Y9zp1)

191 Well, I've already gotten a head start on my feces collection for when the quotas kick in. It's never too early.

Seriously, was that story real or a joke?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019 11:37 AM (1ISKN)

192 187 Why not "erase" all mortgages? All car loans? All lease contracts? All short-term and long-term losses on margin? All student loan debts?

I mean, hell, if we're going to abolish the very concept of debt and leverage, why limit it to just medical obligations?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:36 AM (AURKQ)

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I remember when Roger Ebert called the Fight Club movie fascist, and it ends with people blowing up credit card companies in order to erase debt.

Granted, Ebert didn't understand what fascism was, but it's still an amusing irony.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:37 AM (q80AH)

193 You either believe Barr has always been a deep state plant who along with Durham is running a fake investigation or you believe he is running a real investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

There is a middle ground. ~~Trust but~~ Suspect and verify.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:37 AM (jYnPD)

194 I went to the ER in Paris once upon a time. I didn't interact with any French person while there. From checking in, to nurses to the doctor I saw, to checking out, all immigrants.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (FiUMj)

It's never a good sign when you ask the doctor a question and the answer is "Silence!! I KEEL you!!"

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:37 AM (NWiLs)

195 These people are lunging for total power, and won't be stopped short of force.
.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I'm game.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:37 AM (TnoDk)

196 Why not "erase" all mortgages? All car loans? All lease contracts? All short-term and long-term losses on margin? All student loan debts?
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We will roll these out as the campaign progresses.

Posted by: Joey Biden, et al at October 22, 2019 11:37 AM (wPON6)

197 Ever check out the etymology of "mortgage"?

It means death contract.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019 11:38 AM (1ISKN)

198 I mean, hell, if we're going to abolish the very concept of debt and leverage, why limit it to just medical obligations?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:36 AM (AURKQ)

JUBILEE! IT IS THE DAY OF THE JUBILEE!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:38 AM (Kpl3J)

199
I get a (small) stiffy from an RT of my tripe by Pierre Delecto!

-- J'noah "Thought Leader" Goldbrick,
Profound Disappointment to His Family

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (6G4DD)

200 Bernie cancelling medical debt would be just swell for this country. Hospitals closing and physicians leaving their practice. Commies don't realize that they are not the only ones with a plan. I would bet dollars to donuts most doctors have an exit plan and a stash to do it, maybe the snowshoe store in Aspen or teaching fellow doctors how not to crash a Cessna.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (C1Lsn)

201 Does that include cosmetic procedures and Botox put on credit cards of wine moms?
Posted by: bicentennialguy

Free wine moms for all!

Posted by: Alexandria Sanders-Warren-Buttgig at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (QzkSJ)

202 I see this as a good thing. There is really no reason to take this farce seriously with the way Dems are doing it. And it plays right into Trump's hands. Trump would have a harder time pushing back against an open impeachment process than this farce.
Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:08 AM (sX1BW)

It's just such a jaw-droppingly obvious farce. This is the first time that I really can't understand why even the most simple minded liberal doesn't see through it and realize how stupid it looks to the non-believer.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (0CeRG)

203 Mmm, Jessica Taylor. Luv that sugar-sweet Southern drawl. Smooth as butter melting on a homemade biscuit.

She could tie me up and just talk to me and I'd be a Happy Boy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (HaL55)

204 On a side, but somewhat warm note, the seat heater in my vehicle is stuck on "warm that ass to rare roast beef temp". I'm not even sure how it was turned on in the first place.

Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:40 AM (Bf3hj)

205 then the relationship we the people have with our government is going to change.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.-- Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr

Posted by: Undocumented at October 22, 2019 11:40 AM (5NMZN)

206 189 Why doesn't Bernie just cancel the entire national debt if he's elected?
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Trillion-dollar coins!

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Nobel Laureate at October 22, 2019 11:40 AM (sWM8x)

207
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)
*******
well there you go using fact over Mental Illness

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:40 AM (BqBId)

208 200 Bernie cancelling medical debt would be just swell for this country. Hospitals closing and physicians leaving their practice. Commies don't realize that they are not the only ones with a plan. I would bet dollars to donuts most doctors have an exit plan and a stash to do it, maybe the snowshoe store in Aspen or teaching fellow doctors how not to crash a Cessna.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (C1Lsn)

Unless they're married, then their wives have spent it all on shoes and spa days.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (NWiLs)

209 That's a theoretical conservative swing across the nation that's huge. That's making these district and circuit court adverse rulings less likely to happen in the future. The 9th Circuit, with Trump appointees, has already given Trump a few key wins.

This is the stuff that's going to last more than a generation, and brushing it off with nationwide injunctions is simply missing the point of the win. It's losing the forest for the trees.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (q80AH)

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It will never be 100% Trump judges. So while it's good that there are more Trump judges coming, libs will always find a sympathetic Obama/Clinton judge to rule in their favor.

Where it counts is at the appellate level, and if Trumo gets a second term, he can make some real, long lasting impact there.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (FiUMj)

210 I suspect that credit card companies would love to have the government create some corporatist scheme for them. Really, any sufficiently large corporation these days just yearns for some form of fascism, as far as I can tell.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (RD7QR)

Perpetual profit, protection from competition, socialized losses, and the only cost is that tiny little thing called a soul.

Why wouldn't they be gung-ho about it?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (J+mig)

211 JUBILEE! IT IS THE DAY OF THE JUBILEE!!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo

So I should go short or long on debt?

Posted by: Miklosian Widows and Orphans Fund at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (QzkSJ)

212 You either believe Barr has always been a deep state plant who along with Durham is running a fake investigation or you believe he is running a real investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

There is a middle ground. ~~Trust but~~ Suspect and verify.
Posted by: flounder

There might be middle ground, but there's only going to be one of two outcomes regardless.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (TnoDk)

213 >>There is a middle ground. Trust but Suspect and verify.

There is no middle ground at the HQ. You either believe that Barr is doing exactly what he and Trump said he was going to do or you believe that Barr is part of the coup.

Always be suspect but ignoring what is happening is not being suspect. It's being negative for the sake of being negative.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (ZLI7S)

214 205 then the relationship we the people have with our government is going to change.
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Well boys, it looks like we've got a blind date with History - and she's ordered the Lobster.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

215 200 Bernie cancelling medical debt would be just swell for this country. Hospitals closing and physicians leaving their practice. Commies don't realize that they are not the only ones with a plan. I would bet dollars to donuts most doctors have an exit plan and a stash to do it, maybe the snowshoe store in Aspen or teaching fellow doctors how not to crash a Cessna.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (C1Lsn)

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That's the left's goal. Destroy the private system, and replace it with govt run. What you're describing is exactly what they want to happen. It's a feature for them not a bug.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (FiUMj)

216 Why is Fusion Ken at NBC reporting that people are lawyering up if nothing is happening?

Posted by: JackStraw

I get people's frustration in what appears a long careful prosecution process, but successful cases are brought with careful planning - and this one is complex and involves well connected official with highly competent lawyers.

Its not an investigation by Durham - can we please now not use that term even if its Ken GPS NBC's preferred term? the FBI runs investigations for the DOJ, the DOJ runs prosecutions - this is a prosecution - or a the least, an attempt to evaluation the success of one.

Posted by: Boswell at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (32YRo)

217 14 Trump said Hillary was crazy on Hannity last night. That was awesome
Posted by: Jmel at October 22, 2019 11:07 AM (y3ZMt)

She is. She is deeply mentally ill.

Posted by: Flyover at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (B5K06)

218 The crazy brownshirts infecting the body politic have no desire for a legal or political win... Every single move they make, every bit of chicanery, for at least the last two years (i might even say ten) has one simple goal:

Prepare a critical mass of the population for violent revolution.

-Instill hopelessness in the current situation, while also instilling hope for a poorly-defined future utopia
-Instill mistrust of "The Process" and "Justice"
-Instill suspicion and immediate hatred of any person or group deemed "The Other"
-Instill a conditioned, immediate, knee-jerk response to a vague class of public stimuli ("Racist!", "Fascist!", etc.)

They aren't looking to win the Republic. They're looking to start a revolution.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (AURKQ)

219 then the relationship we the people have with our government is going to change.
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Pfffft! That ship has sailed.

Posted by: SS, Medicare, Individual Mandate at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (vg8iE)

220
It's just such a jaw-droppingly obvious farce. This is the first time that I really can't understand why even the most simple minded liberal doesn't see through it and realize how stupid it looks to the non-believer.
Posted by: Diesel Jones at October 22, 2019 11:39 AM (0CeRG)

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It's like the Clinton gang shitweasel Tucker had on last night to talk about her accusation that "EVERYONE WHO OPPOSES THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS A RUSSIAN ASSET." He knows. He knows how crazy it all sounds... he could barely defend the position with a straight face.

But the NPCs are NPCs - they take their daily punch card and believe the programming implicitly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (AzW6q)

221 208 You're right, Insom, it's always the shoes.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (C1Lsn)

222 "There is no middle ground at the HQ. You either believe that Barr is doing exactly what he and Trump said he was going to do or you believe that Barr is part of the coup."

I don't think he's part of it. I do think he has no interest in fighting the coup plotters. A combination of knowing it's a battle he can't win and probably scared to do so given how Clinton associates often end up dead.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (FiUMj)

223 They aren't looking to win the Republic. They're looking to start a revolution.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

They can't start a lawnmower.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (TnoDk)

224 Ever check out the etymology of "mortgage"?

It means death contract.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Heh

Posted by: Jeanne calment, having her accustomed morning smoke at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (QzkSJ)

225 On a side, but somewhat warm note, the seat heater in my vehicle is stuck on "warm that ass to rare roast beef temp". I'm not even sure how it was turned on in the first place.
Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:40 AM (Bf3hj)

should be a fuse you can pull

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (QugKX)

226
Remember all the lying Kavanaugh accusers that Grassley held to account? Me neither.
Posted by: FloridaMan

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Well, wasn't he "troubled" by James Clapper's lies? Give the guy some credit!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (Xm5XV)

227 213
>>There is a middle ground. Trust but Suspect and verify.

There is no middle ground at the HQ. You either believe that Barr is
doing exactly what he and Trump said he was going to do or you believe
that Barr is part of the coup.

Always be suspect but ignoring what is happening is not being suspect. It's being negative for the sake of being negative.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (ZLI7S)

BS. Until proven otherwise, such as by actual indictments, it is prudent to be suspect.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (jYnPD)

228 209 It will never be 100% Trump judges. So while it's good that there are more Trump judges coming, libs will always find a sympathetic Obama/Clinton judge to rule in their favor.

Where it counts is at the appellate level, and if Trump gets a second term, he can make some real, long lasting impact there.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (FiUMj)

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Of course, it'll never be 100% Trump judges. It'll never be 100% Republican judges.

However, Trump and Mitch are making Democratic judges less and less important with every appointment. Add in the eventual stoppage of nationwide injunctions, and you've got an extremely different, and much more in line with what they were 150 years ago, court system.

We'll never get back to pre-Marshall, but I think we're looking at the potential for pre-FDR court packing threat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (q80AH)

229 She is. She is deeply mentally ill.
Posted by: Flyover at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (B5K06)

Her brain is panicking because she was supposed to be next. It was HER TURN!!!!!!

And you silly rubes spoiled it. YOU MUST BE PUNISHED!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

230 162
The only thing the dems are ever afraid of is bad optics.

bad optics can always be fixed after launch. that's what modular equipment bays are *for*, after all.

Posted by: Perkin Elmer at October 22, 2019 11:45 AM (sGtp+)

231 The reality is most Federal cases are settled out of court. Very few actual trials.

If any of this were to go to trial, the lawyers would turn it into a total shitshow and the creeps would probably get off on a technicality.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019 11:45 AM (1ISKN)

232 I see talk here of "reforming" the Department of Justice. It's not happening. The traitors are far too numerous and far too deeply imbedded in the DOJ to be gotten rid of. They own it and they will not give it up peacefully, no matter how the legislation is written. Laws do not apply to them.

Yeah. We're screwed.

Posted by: creeper at October 22, 2019 11:45 AM (0Oclf)

233 Greetings:

It's kind of interesting to me how quickly and publicly the full weight of the government dropped down on the college entrance miscreants and how difficult it has been to address the misbehaviors of our Deep State rulers.

(Not that I expect any of their convictions and sentences will be of any great consequence on their future lives.)

Posted by: 11B40 at October 22, 2019 11:45 AM (evgyj)

234 You're right, Insom, it's always the shoes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (C1Lsn)

It's gotta be da shoes!!!!!!

Posted by: Mars Blackmon at October 22, 2019 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

235 Biden's campaign has been just like his previous campaigns. A non-starter. Nobody but Biden really thinks he should be president. He's a grinning buffoon of a politician who became veep only because Historic First Black President needed a safe, boring white guy as his running mate.

Posted by: tsj017 at October 22, 2019 11:46 AM (7ReX+)

236 They can't start a lawnmower.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (TnoDk)

Neither could Robespierre.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:46 AM (AURKQ)

237 Why was it a big deal when it was disclosed a few days ago that Durham
had recovered Mifsud's cell phones after hearing his sworn deposition in
Italy?

That's a question I ask. Why is that a big deal? How are we sure that they haven't been tampered with? How do we know for sure they're actually his phones? You just leave burner phones with potentially incriminating evidence on them lying around for a couple of years in your sock drawer?
Something's not right about that, but I don't know what it is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at October 22, 2019 11:46 AM (HaL55)

238 But the NPCs are NPCs - they take their daily punch card and believe the programming implicitly.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (AzW6q)

Take the topless frump from Ace's post last night. She's declaring freedom from oppression and fuck Trump. Why? Because she's a lemming.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

239 On a side, but somewhat warm note, the seat heater
in my vehicle is stuck on "warm that ass to rare roast beef temp". I'm
not even sure how it was turned on in the first place.

Posted by: Roo the day at October 22, 2019 11:40 AM (Bf3hj)

should be a fuse you can pull

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (QugKX)

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Or to be sure, wires to cut.

Posted by: Undocumented at October 22, 2019 11:47 AM (5NMZN)

240
There might be middle ground, but there's only going to be one of two outcomes regardless.
Posted by: rickb223

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Exactly. Those suspicions will either go poof or not.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:47 AM (Xm5XV)

241 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (q80AH)

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Don't get me wrong. More Trump judges is better than fewer. But what I'm saying is that the deep state manages to always find a sympathetic judge on the things that matter. Every single immigration case just happens to be a Clinton or Obama judge. Aren't these things supposed to be random? They never are. So you can have 80% of judges Trump judges and the left will still get the other 20% to do their bidding.

That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:47 AM (FiUMj)

242 Neither could Robespierre.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:46 AM (AURKQ)

All Robby had to do was walk outside and kick the goat in the ass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (Kpl3J)

243 >>BS. Until proven otherwise, such as by actual indictments, it is prudent to be suspect.

Why? Do you get extra credit for always assuming the worst?

What's prudent is to watch what is going on and not make a rush to judgement. We've had a few weeks of evidence of quite a bit going on with Barr and Durham but one tweet from Grassley with his speculation sends everyone into a tizzy.

Sorry, I don't find that prudent.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)

244 There is no middle ground at the HQ. You either believe that Barr is doing exactly what he and Trump said he was going to do or you believe that Barr is part of the coup.

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I believe neither. I believe Barr is here to manage and attempt to retrieve a disastrous breakdown at DoJ, and try to restore it to sanity. I don't believe he's here to rock the government to its foundations by locking up it's upper echelons for their crimes - essentially, just to do damage control and public relations.

And I believe that Trump is fine with that - I think he wants to expose the coup and try its conspirators in the court of public opinion.

Personally, I don't think that's good enough. Not nearly good enough.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (AzW6q)

245
Why not "erase" all mortgages? All car loans? All lease contracts? All short-term and long-term losses on margin? All student loan debts?

Free bird!!!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (aKsyK)

246 Darn. I missed an art thread that had birds in it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (XVuno)

247 QAnon was just some 'channer trolling for lulz. total live action role player. anyone who believed his crap deserves to hang out on an intersection dressed as a furry.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (P9W76)

248 Darn. I missed an art thread that had birds in it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (XVuno)

TITS!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

249 I wish to apologize forever having regarded Mitt Romney as a good man.

Posted by: JEM at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (8erNz)

250 http://bit.ly/2W1XCLV
*******
O'Keefe Strikes Again! Undercover Video Exposes Alleged Sexual Misconduct by CNN Executive, Possible Cover-Up by Management

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (BqBId)

251 They aren't looking to win the Republic. They're looking to start a revolution.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:42 AM (AURKQ)

Back 10-15 years ago, they would have been happy with either option, but the Red Diaper Babies have blown it for the Old Soviet Leftovers. The public has woken up too much and started to see the Left as it is, taking the slow roll off the table. All that's left for their movement is revolution or bust.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (J+mig)

252
California: "Passes Rent control law limiting increases to 5% plus inflation."

Berlin says "Hold my beer."

"Berlin agrees to five-year rent freeze"

This will end well.

Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (G0vdT)

253 "You either believe Barr has always been a deep state
plant who along with Durham is running a fake investigation or you
believe he is running a real investigation."Posted by: JackStraw

no, I just pointed out that hiring lawyers is normal ... even if they had no role in the coup, or were "just following orders". The other points you mention are certainly hopeful signs.

iirc, Barr/Durham going overseas to investigate, is "unprecedented" for the TopCop. It is a good sign they are probing ... but it also indicates how wide DeepState is ... they had to go on their own. Because (?) the usual elements of government are corrupted, serving the DeepState agenda and protecting the army of grifters.

It also shows the DeepState is international ... espionage, treason, sedition ... mafias around the world are trying to get their stories straight ... so Biden/Pelosi/McCainWife/Kerry ... traveling to visit former Ukraine prez and ?? other global mafia players.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (Cus5s)

254 it is prudent to be suspect.

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No. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Ghost of G.H.W. Bush at October 22, 2019 11:50 AM (5NMZN)

255 I wish to apologize forever having regarded Mitt Romney as a good man.
Posted by: JEM

Take a number and stand in line.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:50 AM (TnoDk)

256 Why not "erase" all mortgages? All car loans? All
lease contracts? All short-term and long-term losses on margin? All
student loan debts?

Free bird!!!

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (aKsyK)

The one kind of debt Bernie will never suggest erasing is tax debt. Someone has to pay for all of that free shit.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at October 22, 2019 11:50 AM (F/KeJ)

257 "In the long run, the so-called "American Experiment" is dead."

LOLGF

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 22, 2019 11:50 AM (CArOj)

258
Why am I getting big vagina halloween mask ads on AOSHQ ? Is it something I did?

Posted by: Sphynx at October 22, 2019 11:50 AM (rXie1)

259 247 QAnon was just some 'channer trolling for lulz. total live action role player. anyone who believed his crap deserves to hang out on an intersection dressed as a furry.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (P9W76)

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Heh. During the Kav shitshow, Q posted the number 53. And on PredictIt, 53 yes votes for Kav spiked 20% afterwards. In the comments section everyone was having a bigly laff at how stupid people are.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:50 AM (FiUMj)

260 Speaking of government overreach, just got back from the range with my son. It was glorious.

I continue to pray it doesn't come to where I think it is going.

Magic 8 ball says - "signs point to yes."

Posted by: Tonypete at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (Y4EXg)

261
She is. She is deeply mentally ill.
Posted by: Flyover
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Full-on psychopathy.

You know, I feel a little sorry for Chelsea, she gets dragged out and used as a prop on a fairly regular basis. The most painful was when they called her back to D.C. to pose with Bill and Hill during the Lewinsky affair.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (DCYln)

262 191 Well, I've already gotten a head start on my feces collection for when the quotas kick in. It's never too early.

Seriously, was that story real or a joke?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019

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If cat feces will count, I've got a gold star coming.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius and his 2 big cats at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (ClOmq)

263 Once the DOJ has agreed to take evidence from either the FBI or the IG and develop a case, it becomes a prosecution. A GJ is empaneled and subpoenas are issued for depositions to back up or confirm the evidence supplied by the FBI and/or the IG. A charge or charges are decided upon by the DOJ depending on the testimony and the evidence and the US Attorney in charge decides what will or will not be successful in obtaining an indictment - if he needs more evidence or facts to bolster his case, either gets more depositions or he GOES BACK to the FBI and/or the IG - he doesn't run off and investigate/probe the matter himself.

This process is what Durham has been running - not a probe, not a wish, no a half baked investigation - its a criminal prosecution process that at some point he decides it will be successful in indictments or he drops it as fruitless.

Posted by: Boswell at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (32YRo)

264 There is no middle ground at the HQ. You either believe that Barr is doing exactly what he and Trump said he was going to do or you believe that Barr is part of the coup.

Always be suspect but ignoring what is happening is not being suspect. It's being negative for the sake of being negative.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:41 AM (ZLI7S)

I don't believe Barr is part of the coup--I trust him. And I have confidence that Horowitz and Durham are doing the right thing.
What depresses me is that no matter how airtight the case is, the media won't report on it honestly, will have a parade of Democrat Hacks and Never Trumpers on to shit all over it, and attack the credibility of Barr and everyone else.
I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (NFEMn)

265 Checking out for a while. The crowd here is acting more hostile to the US than an Antifa bar klatsch.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (CArOj)

266 236 They can't start a lawnmower.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 11:43 AM (TnoDk)

Neither could Robespierre.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:46 AM (AURKQ)

Or Lenin. They don't need to be practical, they need to be ruthless.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 11:51 AM (RD7QR)

267 Socialism is inevitable in all societies. Promise people free shit without every having to work and you will win votes. It takes longer in some societies to fully manifest itself, but it always happens eventually.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:52 AM (FiUMj)

268 It also shows the DeepState is international ... espionage, treason, sedition ... mafias around the world are trying to get their stories straight ... so Biden/Pelosi/McCainWife/Kerry ... traveling to visit former Ukraine prez and ?? other global mafia players.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (Cus5s)
*******
You just figured out that the Deep State is worldwide?????? Yikes, Not paying attention the last several years/decades

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:52 AM (BqBId)

269 O'Keefe Strikes Again! Undercover Video Exposes Alleged Sexual Misconduct by CNN Executive, Possible Cover-Up by Management

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:49 AM (BqBId)

--------Alleged? We'll know it if we see it.

Posted by: Potter Stewart at October 22, 2019 11:52 AM (5NMZN)

270 one tweet from Grassley with his speculation sends everyone into a tizzy.

In a Tizzy Miss Lizzy was the B-side of Little Richard's Good Golly Miss Molly.

Posted by: Miklos, now for Long Tall Sally at October 22, 2019 11:52 AM (QzkSJ)

271
The one kind of debt Bernie will never suggest erasing is tax debt. Someone has to pay for all of that free shit.
Posted by: redbanzai
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Under MY plan, costs will go down!

Posted by: Lizzy Warren at October 22, 2019 11:52 AM (OiC69)

272 191 Well, I've already gotten a head start on my feces collection for when the quotas kick in. It's never too early.

Seriously, was that story real or a joke?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019

Apparently, collecting "night soil" is actually part of the daily routine in the socialist paradise.

"Comrades! Excrete it today, eat it tomorrow!"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 22, 2019 11:52 AM (XVuno)

273 >>That's a question I ask. Why is that a big deal? How are we sure that they haven't been tampered with? How do we know for sure they're actually his phones? You just leave burner phones with potentially incriminating evidence on them lying around for a couple of years in your sock drawer?
Something's not right about that, but I don't know what it is.

If they are government issued phones they would likely be retained by law. And if they are Blackberrys as has been reported then there would be a server they were communicating with.

And they aren't necessarily US government phones. All we know for sure is that Mifsud was working for "western" governments. Think of the implication of a person that the FBI said was a Russian spy turning out to be a western intel agent regardless of what the phone records say.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:53 AM (ZLI7S)

274 Why? Do you get extra credit for always assuming the worst?

What's prudent is to watch what is going on and not make a rush to
judgement. We've had a few weeks of evidence of quite a bit going on
with Barr and Durham but one tweet from Grassley with his speculation
sends everyone into a tizzy.

Sorry, I don't find that prudent.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (ZLI7S)

Do you get extra credit for assuming that there will be an outcome outside of all prior experience?
What I see a person getting into a tizzy over others claiming that your false dichotomy is misplaced. If you rested your self-concept on an outcome that includes actual real punishment, including indictments and possible prison, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. If instead, you approach all available evidence - and that includes the legion of instances where highly-placed wrongdoing goes unpunished - with cautious optimism, you will be pleased or be vindicated.

That's prudence.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:53 AM (jYnPD)

275 241 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:44 AM (q80AH)

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Don't get me wrong. More Trump judges is better than fewer. But what I'm saying is that the deep state manages to always find a sympathetic judge on the things that matter. Every single immigration case just happens to be a Clinton or Obama judge. Aren't these things supposed to be random? They never are. So you can have 80% of judges Trump judges and the left will still get the other 20% to do their bidding.

That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 22, 2019 11:47 AM (FiUMj)

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And I'm saying that those cases won't have nationwide implications for long and that the circuit courts are increasingly growing more conservative to kill these rulings earlier.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:54 AM (q80AH)

276 QAnon was just some 'channer trolling for lulz. total live action role player. anyone who believed his crap deserves to hang out on an intersection dressed as a furry.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at October 22, 2019 11:48 AM (P9W76)
******
Really so a guy who did this stuff for almost 2 years until the shutdown 8chan was trolling for almost 2 years

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:54 AM (BqBId)

277 Think of the implication of a person that the FBI said was a Russian spy turning out to be a western intel agent regardless of what the phone records say.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 11:53 AM (ZLI7S)

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Posted by: The MSM. America's Proud Watchdog of Democracy at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (XVuno)

278 Socialism is inevitable in all societies. Promise people free shit without every having to work and you will win votes. It takes longer in some societies to fully manifest itself, but it always happens eventually.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
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Give them bread and circuses.

Posted by: Juvenal at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (1CyAI)

279 Whatever happened to that QAnon stuff? Did they ever figure out who it was?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (1ISKN)

280 "QAnon was just some 'channer trolling for lulz.
total live action role player. anyone who believed his crap deserves to
hang out on an intersection dressed as a furry." Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

LARP, yes, I believe that, but no dummy. He (they?) obliquely brought up many good points/questions, got some things wrong (trust sessions, trust ??? I forget) ... but also inspired some that built a community around making memes and digging up details that were useful.

A LARP that helped red pill people, I'm OK with that. If he gave people false hope "trust the plan, we have it all, they are stupid" ... that could be bad. But hope is useful, better than constant despair.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (Cus5s)

281 We FIGHT till we win. Barr is a follower of Christ. Good 'nuff for me.

Posted by: stiffen the spine at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (WX+x0)

282 anyone who believed his crap deserves to hang out on an intersection dressed as a furry.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo

With GPS coordinates provided to Uncle Palp.

Posted by: Miklos for Justice! at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (QzkSJ)

283 When there are indictments, maybe I will be more optimistic. I have been hearing "Soon..." for years, and "#too weeks" for too long to believe the theatrics any more.

Posted by: Snoreregard forevah! at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (U7k5w)

284 There is no middle ground at the HQ. You either believe that Barr is doing exactly what he and Trump said he was going to do or you believe that Barr is part of the coup.

On the one hand, I want to believe. On the other hand, history does not indicate it's likely. On the gripping hand, I'm shite at predicting things to come. So fuck if I know.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (AM1GF)

285 Do you get extra credit for assuming that there will be an outcome outside of all prior experience?
What I see a person getting into a tizzy over others claiming that your false dichotomy is misplaced. If you rested your self-concept on an outcome that includes actual real punishment, including indictments and possible prison, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. If instead, you approach all available evidence - and that includes the legion of instances where highly-placed wrongdoing goes unpunished - with cautious optimism, you will be pleased or be vindicated.

That's prudence.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:53 AM (jYnPD)
*******
So do you not leave the house because you might get hit by lightning, Meteorite, Plane, Shit dumped from jet Etc

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:56 AM (BqBId)

286 Trump said Hillary was crazy on Hannity last night. That was awesome
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Hillary as a zombie lurching around the country claiming she is the real winner.

Infected another zombie lurching around around the country claiming she is the real Governor of GA.

We will wait and see how many zombie 'winners' are staggering around, all infected from the same mania.

(Back in my day, those people who claimed they were Napoleon were kindly treated, but locked up so as not to infect others.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2019 11:56 AM (MIKMs)

287 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQA59IkCF5I

that's prudence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 11:56 AM (Kpl3J)

288 286 Trump said Hillary was crazy on Hannity last night. That was awesome
=====

Hillary as a zombie lurching around the country claiming she is the real winner.

Infected another zombie lurching around around the country claiming she is the real Governor of GA.

We will wait and see how many zombie 'winners' are staggering around, all infected from the same mania.

(Back in my day, those people who claimed they were Napoleon were kindly treated, but locked up so as not to infect others.)
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2019 11:56 AM (MIKMs)

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It's gonna be amazing when she announces her candidacy after Biden flames out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 11:56 AM (q80AH)

289 This matter of Barr/Durham going overseas to obtain cooperation is pretty much a diplomatic effort to convince people with evidence to provide it to the US - probably because the FBI or the IG could not get the evidence asked for by Durham due to diplomatic issues or an unwillingness or unease by foreign official to cooperate - if the prosecution/s is/are unsuccessful, where does that leave these foreign officials? Dealing with disgruntled and unhappy US and foreign IC agents, that's what.

So, they aren't gathering evidence - they are convincing people they have no control over to release it so the case can be rounded out.

Posted by: Boswell at October 22, 2019 11:57 AM (32YRo)

290 Socialism is inevitable in all societies.

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Then so is freedom.

What I think is inevitable is that society will always cycle. Rebellion can lead to freedom which can lead to prosperity which can lead to socialism (totalitarianism), etc. Wash, rinse, repeat.

All things eventually end. The American Republic will as well. I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, but it is clearly dying of sorts. Doesn't mean it will die. There may be a period of resurgence.

Posted by: SH at October 22, 2019 11:57 AM (sX1BW)

291
Under MY plan, costs will go down!
Posted by: Lizzy Warren

How can we afford NOT do do it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 22, 2019 11:57 AM (aKsyK)

292 I wish to apologize forever having regarded Mitt Romney as a good man.
Posted by: JEM

He's a "good man" by only ONE measure--he's faithful to his wife and he doesn't drink or smoke. Ironically, he's similar to Trump in that second point, but nobody ever puts that as a plus in Trump's column.

What makes Romney a piece of shit is that by every other measure, he's a back-stabbing, lying, conniving, heel, the very essence of why some people hate Republicans.
On top of that, he parades himself as a "Good Man."
Any Christian knows you don't do that.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2019 11:57 AM (NFEMn)

293 Hate to be skeptical, but Lucy has pilled that football away too many times.. I'll let jackstraw be my optimist

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 11:57 AM (O2RFr)

294 I have some Italian hot sausage, onions, and green peppers going just fine in the crock pot. I also have some garlic bread to heat up. Now Bernie would demand I share this with a worthless member of my community, but I say no! I will also have a big bowl of Raisin Bran about 8PM tonight because aging sucks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (C1Lsn)

295
And I'm saying that those cases won't have nationwide implications for long and that the circuit courts are increasingly growing more conservative to kill these rulings earlier.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
.......
Nation-wide injunctions are the freaking problem!

How the fuck does a circuit judge in Hawaii have the power to slap an injunction on southern border policy??

This is what needs to be fought all the up the ladder to the Supremes.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (so+oy)

296 Socialism is inevitable in all societies. Promise people free shit without every having to work and you will win votes. It takes longer in some societies to fully manifest itself, but it always happens eventually.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker
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Give them bread and circuses.

Posted by: Juvenal at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (1CyAI)
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Which was why the founders of the USA limited voting to property owners only. Normal people who work for their stuff aren't going to vote to provide free stuff to layabouts who want to take your stuff for free.

Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (oGBso)

297
Apparently, collecting "night soil" is actually part of the daily routine in the socialist paradise.

"Comrades! Excrete it today, eat it tomorrow!"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 22, 2019

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"Your weekly feces requirement of 20.4 kilograms has been decreased to 22.3 kilograms. All Hail Glorious Leader!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius and his 2 big cats at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (ClOmq)

298 Is Hillary's alternative Twitter handle @miss havisham?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (Uu+Jp)

299 That's prudence.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:53 AM (jYnPD)

*******

So do you not leave the house because you might get hit by lightning, Meteorite, Plane, Shit dumped from jet Etc

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 11:56 AM (BqBId)

What a ridiculous question.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:59 AM (jYnPD)

300 I always felt that Biden would crash unless the DNC decided he was the one, just like they decided Hillary was the one. Then they would do whatever they could to push him through the nomination process and then paint him as a moderate, union loving, middle class American whose first wife and child died at the hands of a drunk driver and whose brilliant son died from cancer, and who had known such hardship. Someone who had vast experience with foreign governments, working to develop coalitions, etc.

I always felt left on his own, Biden would crash and burn quickly along the way, as has been his history. I had no idea his campaign was as bad as it was, but the DNC apparently wasn't fully in charge of it. He will drop out, IMO, after SC. He can't lose Iowa, NH, PA, and SC and win the nomination
Had Obama not picked him for the above reasons as cover for his own ideology, Biden would maybe still be a Senator from Delaware, or more likely, a lobbyist.

Posted by: Jen the original at October 22, 2019 11:59 AM (hrQ04)

301 Barr and the DOJ may not purposely be doing the Deep State's bidding but they could also still come to a decision that people here, including myself, won't like.

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 22, 2019 11:59 AM (9YKBM)

302 294 I have some Italian hot sausage, onions, and green peppers going just fine in the crock pot. I also have some garlic bread to heat up. Now Bernie would demand I share this with a worthless member of my community, but I say no! I will also have a big bowl of Raisin Bran about 8PM tonight because aging sucks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (C1Lsn)

Oh Biiiiilllllll....

Posted by: Ghey Loops cereal at October 22, 2019 12:00 PM (RD7QR)

303 There is no middle ground at the HQ

¿Que?

Posted by: Onager, .40 S&W, & Mrs. Howell at October 22, 2019 12:00 PM (DMUuz)

304 So, they aren't gathering evidence - they are convincing people they have no control over to release it so the case can be rounded out.
Posted by: Boswell

The Italians wanted to arrest some CIA agents, had one held for a couple of years in Portugal.

Trump got the one out, the rest stopped. For some reason, the foreigners listen when Trump has an ask.

Posted by: Miklos for More Justice! at October 22, 2019 12:00 PM (QzkSJ)

305 Etymologies: hussy and gussy

My mom was no hussy, but she always used to say she liked to get gussied up to go out for dinner with the 'ol man.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (axyOa)

306 295
And I'm saying that those cases won't have nationwide implications for long and that the circuit courts are increasingly growing more conservative to kill these rulings earlier.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
.......
Nation-wide injunctions are the freaking problem!

How the fuck does a circuit judge in Hawaii have the power to slap an injunction on southern border policy??

This is what needs to be fought all the up the ladder to the Supremes.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (so+oy)

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It wasn't really a problem until recently. SCOTUS will slap it down eventually. Probably no more than a year or two.

Yeah, why not just right now? Cause that's how SCOTUS operates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (q80AH)

307 and I just noticed this on twitchy, Pochahontas has a plan, too:

"I will also push to cancel all existing student meal debt and increase
federal funding to school meal programs so that students everywhere can
get free and nutritious school meals."
[part of her plan to guarantee that every school in the country is as good as the one AOC attended in the Bronx]

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (ZqRa6)

308 I suspect that Grassley's tweet was a call-out to Trump, asking him to intervene and settle the "food fight" (as Jason Chaffetz calls it) that is going on inside the FBI about classification. One piece said that the FBI wants to redact about 20% of the report.

Trump could settle this, but he needs to get involved in the nitty gritty of the fight, something he hasn't shown much of a willingness to do so far.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (Kpl3J)

309 "When we're in the White House, we're going to cancel all past-due medical debt."

cool. I'll stop paying MediCare taxes first.

Posted by: x at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (nFwvY)

310 > Biden pulls 60% support among blacks. Warren and Bernie, not so much... but yeah, it doesn't say much for black America.

Disagree. They prefer a corrupt retard who nonetheless delivers the loot to outright communists.

Totally reasonable.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian asset) at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (tXUFd)

311 298 Is Hillary's alternative Twitter handle @miss havisham?
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (Uu+Jp)

@arsenicandoldlace

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 12:02 PM (RD7QR)

312 Am I going to take away your medical debt?

*checks notes*

HELL YES I AM GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR MEDICAL DEBT!

Posted by: Robert Frances O'Rourke, callsign "Beto" at October 22, 2019 12:02 PM (XiVKO)

313
I suspect that Grassley's tweet was a call-out to Trump, asking him to intervene and settle the "food fight" (as Jason Chaffetz calls it) that is going on inside the FBI about classification. One piece said that the FBI wants to redact about 20% of the report.

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I liked that Tucker dragged Graham over the boards last night. Good stuff. Somebody needs to light a fire under his sissy ass.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (AzW6q)

314 >> Biden pulls 60% support among blacks.

That won't do it in a General.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (fjX/+)

315 Under MY plan, costs will go down!
Posted by: Lizzy Warren

How can we afford NOT do do it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot

ENDORSED!!!

Posted by: Bernie Madoff at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (QzkSJ)

316 298 Is Hillary's alternative Twitter handle @miss havisham?
Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (Uu+Jp)

@Depends

Posted by: Roy at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (Gvpa/)

317 Trump got the one out, the rest stopped. For some reason, the foreigners listen when Trump has an ask.
Posted by: Miklos for More Justice! at October 22, 2019 12:00 PM (QzkSJ)

Because for as much as the media and the Left pretends otherwise, Trump is The PRESIDENT. People want to deal with the top man, the guy in charge. And that's Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (NFEMn)

318 What a ridiculous question.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 11:59 AM (jYnPD)

How dare you call the Rosenstein fan club, ridiculous? If you're not careful he'll call you mentally ill.

Posted by: Roddy in the white hat at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (U7k5w)

319 Hillary as a zombie lurching around the country claiming she is the real winner.

Infected another zombie lurching around around the country claiming she is the real Governor of GA.

We will wait and see how many zombie 'winners' are staggering around, all infected from the same mania.
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As somebody said here yesterday, Cankles and the other zombies are making Al Gore look like a dignified elder statesman. At least given his behavior in the aftermath of November 2000.

What he did once he glommed onto globull warming etc is a different matter entirely, but on the other hand he was just riding that train to almost-billionaire status. He certainly lives his life as tho he understands globul warming is a scam and nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (oGBso)

320 Woe is me.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (eAZVt)

321 How the fuck does a circuit judge in Hawaii have the power to slap an injunction on southern border policy??

This is what needs to be fought all the up the ladder to the Supremes.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (so+oy)

The Supremes created that situation, they're the only ones ho can stop it. (well theoretically Congress could) Justice Thomas has expressed support for the idea, but it will probably require the successful replacement of RBG before there's sufficient conservative weight on the court for that to happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (Kpl3J)

322 312
Am I going to take away your medical debt?

*checks notes*

HELL YES I AM GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR MEDICAL DEBT!

Posted by: Robert Frances O'Rourke, callsign "Beto" at October 22, 2019 12:02 PM (XiVKO)

If you like your medical debt, you can keep your medical. *slurp*

Posted by: Hairless Cameltoe at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (jYnPD)

323 afaik, the Qanon thing broke into several factions ... many good peeps do their own research, have YouTube channels with 100k+ signed up ... smart people that still play off the Q think to a degree, but recognize/assume, he is not right in the WH.

Tracy Beanz got her start in the middle of that, walked away, tries to keep some ties with others though, I think. They shut down 8chan ... no word from Q for a couple months I think .. but 8 chan is supposedly coming back. idk ... we need some insiders on our side ... the Q method is the action figure stand in, till a real Q, or the real insiders stand up and accomplish the mission.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (Cus5s)

324
Speaking of which I am going to write a note to Mr. Graham, expressing my extreme displeasure at his lack of action.

BBL.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (AzW6q)

325 On the one hand, I want to believe. On the other hand, history does not indicate it's likely.

The US was not likely. What does history say about a Deep State being revealed and playing defense?

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (Z1eux)

326 "I have zero interest in being a professional politician."

- Went to law school
- Worked in Governor's office
- "determined to change the world"
- Now working for firm that looks for federal grant money
- Checklist of of buzzwords that score well with the base ("steadfast conservative", "mom", "patriot", "businesswoman")

I'd still vote for her, but let's put away the anointing oil, please.

Posted by: Hands at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (786Ro)

327 Barr going overseas.
What's not to understand?

He is the AG for the United States and his client has a case.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (axyOa)

328 By Ace's Vespa! there needs to be pain brought to the Deep State.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (TuUK9)

329 You know who could end this wait for the IG report today? Same for the FISA.

President Donald Trump

Posted by: Sooner at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (Fs5vw)

330 Socialism is inevitable in all societies.

I think you just solved the Fermi Paradox. where are all the alien civilizations? they ran out of other alien's money and can't afford alien toilet paper much less space travel.

Posted by: x at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (nFwvY)

331 Posted by: Roddy in the white hat at October 22, 2019 12:03 PM (U7k5w)
******
You are the chuckleheads who are shitting your pants because they won't release everything when you want them too. Now you tell me who is mentally Ill. PSSSSST that is not how life itself works

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

332 The US was not likely. What does history say about a Deep State being revealed and playing defense?
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (Z1eux)

Ask Akhenaten's ghost.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (Kpl3J)

333 329 You know who could end this wait for the IG report today? Same for the FISA.

President Donald Trump

Wish he would just do it

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (O2RFr)

334 Astounding that we can still hold any expectation of reform from anybody within the system. The IG is an institutional janitor, not a reformist. It took Trump -- a bona fide outsider -- to begin to pry open the lid of the swill pit that is our government.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (H8QX8)

335 I'd still vote for her, but let's put away the anointing oil, please.

Posted by: Hands at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (786Ro)

Good catch.

Posted by: Hairless Cameltoe at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (jYnPD)

336 How the fuck does a circuit judge in Hawaii have the power to slap an injunction on southern border policy??

Can you imagine what a catch-and-release-in-Hawaii policy would do to those islands?

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (OiC69)

337 I'll let jackstraw be my optimist

Posted by: It's me donna

It is allowed.

The case will either be brought or dropped based on whether is it strong enough to obtain the indictments and has a reasonable chance in court - one would think a slam dunk would have brought indictments quick but this is a complex case with lots powerful players so I get why its taking time - and these people have legal representation that are also connected and are no dopes - but I'd say that this prosecution needs to have a couple of high profile indictments by 2020 or something just can't be brought with success against these people.

Posted by: Boswell at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (32YRo)

338 328 By Ace's Vespa! there needs to be pain brought to the Deep State.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (TuUK9)

I'll be stealing that curse, Grump. Without attribution, naturally.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (RD7QR)

339 Darn. I missed an art thread that had birds in it.
Posted by: Cicero

They were tits !

Posted by: JT at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (arJlL)

340 I realize this should probably wait for the gun thread, but I might forget or miss the thread...

That fvcking NICS check is intrusive as all hell.

I just bought my first shotgun, and boy was that an eye opener.

That there is a national registry. FVCK THEM!

Posted by: browndog at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (bGMOs)

341 My guess is there has been more white guys lynched

Posted by: REDACTED at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (rpxSz)

342 Dear Prudence,

Posted by: DaveA at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (FhXTo)

343 The O'Keefe Videos are damming, for sure.

However, I cannot STAND the fact that the youth have fucked the English language so bad.....

Like, like, like, like, like, like, like.....

Drove me up a fucking wall listening to it.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

344 BTW, I signed a FISA app as a top secret, pro-Trump angelic spy, that's also why I appointed Mueller and his cabal of leftist lawyers. Justice, Justice shall I pursue.

Posted by: Roddy in the white hat at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (U7k5w)

345 By Ace's Vespa! there needs to be pain brought to the Deep State.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (TuUK9)

I'll be stealing that curse, Grump. Without attribution, naturally.
Posted by: joncelli

By Grathbar's Hammer and Ace's Vespa, we will be avenged!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 12:08 PM (TnoDk)

346 You know who could end this wait for the IG report today? Same for the FISA.

President Donald Trump
Posted by: Sooner at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (Fs5vw)
******
You know who PDT gave full powers to Declass?? AG Bill Barr ! if PDT trusts Barr that much I will too

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:08 PM (BqBId)

347 By Ace's Vespa! there needs to be pain brought to the Deep State.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

It's WAY early for gladiator movies.

Posted by: Miklosius at October 22, 2019 12:08 PM (QzkSJ)

348 Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play?

Posted by: The Silver Beetles at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (uysDU)

349
I'd still vote for her, but let's put away the anointing oil, please. Posted by: Hands at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (786Ro)
=====

See also, Joni Ernst.

Clever ads do not effective politicians make.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (MIKMs)

350 Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

#TooWeak

Posted by: Easy Andy at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (9YKBM)

351 Drove me up a fucking wall listening to it.
Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

like, I like this, like 4ever

Posted by: Mr LIKE at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (rpxSz)

352 336 How the fuck does a circuit judge in Hawaii have the power to slap an injunction on southern border policy??

Can you imagine what a catch-and-release-in-Hawaii policy would do to those islands?
Posted by: t-bird

let's find out

Posted by: x at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (nFwvY)

353 340
I realize this should probably wait for the gun thread, but I might forget or miss the thread...

That fvcking NICS check is intrusive as all hell.

I just bought my first shotgun, and boy was that an eye opener.

That there is a national registry. FVCK THEM!

Posted by: browndog at October 22, 2019 12:07 PM (bGMOs)

Yep. Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (jYnPD)

354
Lois Lerner had four-figure-an-hour lawyers defending her for her perfidy against taxpayers -- on the taxpayers' dime.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 22, 2019 11:29 AM (Xm5XV)

If the next just-out-of-law-school lawyer at the public defender's office is good enough to ensure civil rights for the hoi polloi, it should be good enough for government employees, if the taxpayers are picking up the tab.

You want a better lawyer? Break out the checkbook sugartits.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2019 12:10 PM (veoSD)

355 Can you imagine what a catch-and-release-in-Hawaii policy would do to those islands?
Posted by: t-bird

They would just start calling illegals "mahi-mahi"

Posted by: Miklos, faster than lightning at October 22, 2019 12:10 PM (QzkSJ)

356 By Grathbar's Hammer and Ace's Vespa, we will be avenged!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 12:08 PM

I can see the snarling otter riding the Vespa now swinging the Hammer.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2019 12:10 PM (axyOa)

357 By the basket on the front of Ace's Vespa!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 22, 2019 12:10 PM (krYGQ)

358 >>Drove me up a fucking wall listening to it.

Better than a Vespa would treat you.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2019 12:10 PM (fjX/+)

359 You are the chuckleheads who are shitting your pants because they won't release everything when you want them too. Now you tell me who is mentally Ill. PSSSSST that is not how life itself works
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

Zero indictments, and Rosenstein allowing Mueller to run wild means that I am a saint, a hero a savior of the Republic? LOL

Posted by: Roddy in the white hat at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (U7k5w)

360 Which was why the founders of the USA limited voting to property owners only. Normal people who work for their stuff aren't going to vote to provide free stuff to layabouts who want to take your stuff for free.
Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (oGBso)

Property ownership requirenents will eventually produce a disenfranchised renter's society, as the wealthy buy up all the land (thus limiting the vote to their social class).

A far better solution would be to gauge taxes paid versus benefits received.

If you are a net payer, you get a vote.
If you are a net receiver, the largesse is what you get.

This would codify an ancient rule we all learned in childhood: Beggars cannot be choosers.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (J+mig)

361 I'd still vote for her, but let's put away the anointing oil, please.
Posted by: Hands at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (786Ro)

We're desperate.

Put her in office. Give her a chance. She sucks, punt the cuunt.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

362 It is interesting that they've gone from "deep state is a kooky conspiracy" to "deep state are the greatest patriots loyal to the people and the Constitution"

And that now the cry is "Trump must be impeached because he has demanded loyalty to him from the people who work for him"

It's not just that they are attacking Trump as a proxy for their hate for us--they have deemed all of us who voted for Trump as illegitimate citizens.
Whose votes should and deserve to be nullified.

The deep state and the impeachment crowd DO NOT see our vote for Trump as legitimate--we stole their government from them!

And they will come for both you and I should they get Trump out of the way.

Do they think 63 million people will not see what they are doing?

Mitt Romney justifies his rebellion by wrapping himself in the faded respect for the institutions.
Failing to see that he does far more damage by insulting the 63 million who voted for Trump, siding instead with those who view those voters as usurpers who stole the election.
Failing to see that we have a clear view of the true thieves, the liars, cheats and trash who have taken our government from us, used it for their own ends.

For too long we have given them the respect of their office.
And they have paid us with ashes and vinegar.

Their wages for their treachery are being calculated and weighed--the days for payment approach.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (cXp0V)

363 Barr is a follower of Christ. Good 'nuff for me.
Posted by: stiffen the spine at October 22, 2019 11:55 AM (WX+x0)
~~~~~

Paramount. But do not forget that he plays the bagpipes--that really seals the deal.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (sGotD)

364 I'd still vote for her, but let's put away the anointing oil, please.

When you go on record saying you'll stand behind Trump and the borders in the way that she did, I'll give you two years to prove it.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (NpvYf)

365 >>That fvcking NICS check is intrusive as all hell.
>>I just bought my first shotgun, and boy was that an eye opener.

Felt a little INFRINGEMENT did you?

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (fjX/+)

366 345
By Ace's Vespa! there needs to be pain brought to the Deep State.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 22, 2019 12:04 PM (TuUK9)

I'll be stealing that curse, Grump. Without attribution, naturally.

Posted by: joncelli

By Grathbar's Hammer and Ace's Vespa, we will be avenged!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 12:08 PM (TnoDk)
And just like that, tentacle porn made the big screen.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (N39Ws)

367 >>The case will either be brought or dropped based on whether is it strong enough to obtain the indictments and has a reasonable chance in court - one would think a slam dunk would have brought indictments quick but this is a complex case with lots powerful players so I get why its taking time - and these people have legal representation that are also connected and are no dopes - but I'd say that this prosecution needs to have a couple of high profile indictments by 2020 or something just can't be brought with success against these people.

Do you think Trump understands this? Do you think he means it when he says that no president should ever have to go through this again? Do you think he means it when he says he is going to drain the swamp? Do you think he meant when he said constantly over the last 2+ years that his campaign was illegally spied on?

It's not optimism. Trump knows better than anyone that if people aren't punished for this it will happen again and again.

As you said, if cases can be brought they will be. I think they can and will be.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (ZLI7S)

368 That there is a national registry. FVCK THEM!

--

There is no national registry and dealers sure as sh*t better have all required documents recording every single gun sale when the feds ask for it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 22, 2019 12:13 PM (krYGQ)

369 The deep state and the impeachment crowd DO NOT see our vote for Trump as legitimate--we stole their government from them!

And they will come for both you and I should they get Trump out of the way.

Do they think 63 million people will not see what they are doing?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (cXp0V)

Beyond, impeachment, they deserve all possible and inevitable outcomes.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 12:13 PM (jYnPD)

370 367 It's not optimism. Trump knows better than anyone that if people aren't punished for this it will happen again and again.

As you said, if cases can be brought they will be. I think they can and will be.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

What if the NeverTrumpers were right and Trump really is a stalking horse for Hillary?!?!?!

Does that change anything or everything?!?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Facehugger at October 22, 2019 12:14 PM (q80AH)

371 I believe it's an old Jewish proverb that goes - "If you do not wish to do a thing, any excuse will do."

Posted by: washrivergal at October 22, 2019 12:14 PM (sIyWR)

372 310 > Biden pulls 60% support among blacks. Warren and Bernie, not so much... but yeah, it doesn't say much for black America.

Disagree. They prefer a corrupt retard who nonetheless delivers the loot to outright communists.

Totally reasonable.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian asset) at October 22, 2019 12:01 PM (tXUFd)

Biden directly panders to them "They're gonna put you back in chains!" Bernie and Warren I think do not and just take the black vote for granted. Warren spends all her time on "my vagina" and Bernie is appealing to "the youth" for very very stupid reasons.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2019 12:14 PM (GQznZ)

373 Posted by: Easy Andy at October 22, 2019 12:09 PM (9YKBM)
********
I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!!

Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:14 PM (BqBId)

374 I may move to Alabama to vote for that chick.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 22, 2019 12:15 PM (VWp7G)

375 That fvcking NICS check is intrusive as all hell.
>>I just bought my first shotgun, and boy was that an eye opener.

Felt a little INFRINGEMENT did you?
Posted by: garrett

That tickling of the prostate? Is that what we're calling it now?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 12:15 PM (TnoDk)

376 365
>>That fvcking NICS check is intrusive as all hell.

>>I just bought my first shotgun, and boy was that an eye opener.

Felt a little INFRINGEMENT did you?

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (fjX/+)

Be lucky you don't live in WA, wherein to purchase a Ruger 10/22 for your children and grandchildren requires waiver to the state of your medical privacy right, now and forever.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 12:16 PM (jYnPD)

377 I may move to Alabama to vote for that chick.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

I'd let her "sign my yearbook".

Posted by: Miklos, and who would not at October 22, 2019 12:16 PM (QzkSJ)

378 Is Hillary's alternative Twitter handle @miss havisham?

-
@mzbehaven

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2019 12:16 PM (+y/Ru)

379 ********
I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!!
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:14 PM (BqBId)

Call J G Wentworth.

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)

380
You know who PDT gave full powers to Declass?? AG Bill Barr ! if PDT trusts Barr that much I will too
Posted by: derp state is in deep shit at October 22, 2019 12:08 PM (BqBId)

Remember. Trump at one time trusted a lot of hostile administrators appointed by the dogeater. And by recent indications, still does.

Posted by: Sooner at October 22, 2019 12:17 PM (Fs5vw)

381 Which was why the founders of the USA limited voting to property owners only. Normal people who work for their stuff aren't going to vote to provide free stuff to layabouts who want to take your stuff for free.
Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (oGBso)

Property ownership requirenents will eventually produce a disenfranchised renter's society, as the wealthy buy up all the land (thus limiting the vote to their social class).

A far better solution would be to gauge taxes paid versus benefits received.

If you are a net payer, you get a vote.
If you are a net receiver, the largesse is what you get.

This would codify an ancient rule we all learned in childhood: Beggars cannot be choosers.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 12:11 PM (J+mig)

The problem with this is that there are plenty of rich , propertied people who are liberal --or further Left and many poor or middling class who may not own property--yet.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2019 12:17 PM (NFEMn)

382 I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!!
******
all the naysaysers attitude

Posted by: I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!! at October 22, 2019 12:17 PM (BqBId)

383 Biden pulls 60% support among blacks. Warren and Bernie, not so much... but yeah, it doesn't say much for black America.

--

It's mind-blowing. Recently he openly said that, while visiting THEIR neighborhood in his younger days, he armed himself with an illegal weapon to confront a black man that had done nothing to him other than say mean things that hurt his feelings.

Yay Biden!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 22, 2019 12:17 PM (krYGQ)

384 367 It's not optimism. Trump knows better than anyone that if people aren't punished for this it will happen again and again.

As you said, if cases can be brought they will be. I think they can and will be.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (ZLI7S)

I didn't punish them (as if I'd hurt my own kind), and Sessions and Huber (not special, still a prosecutor) didn't punish them. It will happen again and again, but only to conservatives who act like they're not just window dressing or upstarts who want to turf off the graft hoses.

McCabe has been "lawyered up" for some time now.

Posted by: Roddy in the white hat at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (U7k5w)

385 375
That fvcking NICS check is intrusive as all hell.

>>I just bought my first shotgun, and boy was that an eye opener.

Felt a little INFRINGEMENT did you?

Posted by: garrett

That tickling of the prostate? Is that what we're calling it now?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 22, 2019 12:15 PM (TnoDk)
So that feeling of excitement you have when you leave a gun shop with a new "toy" isn't from the elation felt over your new acquisition?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (N39Ws)

386 *bangs head into desk*

The Germans of all people should know that 'de-radicalize' is not a viable option with VagISIL indoctrinated children who are fleeing Syria.

Hitler Jungen ja?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (EXxge)

387 382 I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!!
******

I see your point, but the election is 1 year away and the closer it gets the more virulent the Dems/media/deep state gets.. Need to nip it in the bud ASAP.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (O2RFr)

388 Remember. Trump at one time trusted a lot of hostile administrators appointed by the dogeater. And by recent indications, still does.
Posted by: Sooner at October 22, 2019 12:17 PM (Fs5vw)
*******
UMMMMM No, No he didn't with a Huge portion on the RINOe Party refusing to work for him or him not trusting them he stuck with the devil he knows, instead of the devil he doesn't know

Posted by: I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!! at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (BqBId)

389 360 Property ownership requirenents will eventually produce a disenfranchised renter's society, as the wealthy buy up all the land (thus limiting the vote to their social class).
----------------------------------

That's a good point that the founders might not have anticipated, but gaming it out in the modern era does ring true. For example, if only property owners in Hawaii could vote, election day could start at 10am and be finished by lunchtime. Leaseholds would be the new hotness everywhere under an owners only voting system.

Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (oGBso)

390 At this point I won't consider ANY of these investigations a success until 5 or 6 of the perpetrators of the coup are shot by a firing squad. Not hyperbole. What these players have done is sedition.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 22, 2019 12:19 PM (flINI)

391 I'd still vote for her, but let's put away the anointing oil, please"

Wait a sec... babes w/oil?

Ahem.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at October 22, 2019 12:19 PM (6qErC)

392 Of course, another Democrat candidate recently said he considered ropes with a knot tying them together the technological and cultural high point of achievement for black women, so I can sort of see Biden's appeal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - why don't Democrats speak ebonics to appeal to black voters? at October 22, 2019 12:19 PM (krYGQ)

393 "justice is coming"

Posted by: I will fucking wait forever, you crazies at October 22, 2019 12:19 PM (U7k5w)

394 Do you think Trump understands this? Do you think he means it when he says that no president should ever have to go through this again? Do you think he means it when he says he is going to drain the swamp? Do you think he meant when he said constantly over the last 2+ years that his campaign was illegally spied on?

It's not optimism. Trump knows better than anyone that if people aren't punished for this it will happen again and again.

As you said, if cases can be brought they will be. I think they can and will be.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:12 PM (ZLI7S)

Believing what Trump says and means and wanting him to succeed are different from believing that he will ultimately be successful in everything he sets out to do.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2019 12:19 PM (GQznZ)

395 So that feeling of excitement you have when you leave a gun shop with a new "toy" isn't from the elation felt over your new acquisition?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Come up and see me sometime.

Posted by: *insert Mae West lines here* at October 22, 2019 12:19 PM (QzkSJ)

396 Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (O2RFr)
*******
Media is irrelevant to cases being brought, the FSA doesn't give a flying fuck who did what, they just want their free shit

Posted by: I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!! at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (BqBId)

397 "So, they aren't gathering evidence - they are
convincing people they have no control over to release it so the case
can be rounded out. " Posted by: Boswell

thx, good points. But as I hear it, it is pretty much unprecedented for our AG to be in that role. Of course taking on DeepState now includes the globalist cabal of influence.

There is evidence on the domestic side as well, that we are trying to convince witnesses to "release". It has been hidden behind "classified" or "that is under investigation, for the next 20 years"

Trump declassified everything so Barr could pry open that locked box of evidence, but Wray and others still are blockading much, as I understand it. Now they are redacting the IG report ... Trump can declassify it all .. so Barr can see it (even if the public does not see it).

This diplomacy thing is foreign and domestic, since DeepState operates as its own government/cartel.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (Cus5s)

398 Re Jessica Taylor
Given the viciously corrupt media and the violently insane left I would think anyone willing to come out as a Trump supporter needs to be given a wee bit of a chance.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (Uu+Jp)

399 So no poll trolls?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (O2RFr)

400 They would just start calling illegals "mahi-mahi"

We were hiking the jungle side on Kauai one day and some crossbow-toting pig-hunters crossed the trail. They barely gave us a look as we were not game. Well, legal game. It was kind of chilling.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (nIvDu)

401 90% of these GOP senators can't wait to convict Trump. Oh, their dilations will amaze you, their equivocations will astound you, their circumlocutions will dazzle you, but when it comes down to it -- "Off with his head!" Know it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (H8QX8)

402 Not one plotter is even indicted. Not one.

Yes, it takes a while to put a case together. Ask Papadopolous. And Flynn. And Manafort.

Posted by: blaster at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (9VeU0)

403 The problem with this is that there are plenty of rich , propertied people who are liberal --or further Left and many poor or middling class who may not own property--yet.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 22, 2019 12:17 PM (NFEMn)

If you're working class and not on benefits, you'd still vote in my system. Even if you don't own anything, because you are contributing more to society than you take out. Virtually anybody who holds and honest job and doesn't game the system would vote.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (J+mig)

404 378 Is Hillary's alternative Twitter handle @miss havisham?

-
@mzbehaven
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2019 12:16 PM (+y/Ru)

@DeepEnds

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (AURKQ)

405 393 "justice is coming"

It's me, it's me, it's Buford T!

Posted by: That boy's gonna pay at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (QzkSJ)

406 >>>I'd let her "sign my yearbook".

With a very large pen.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (VWp7G)

407 "Using the power of the state to manipulate elections is the essence of totalitarianism. Blocking the power of the people to choose their own government is counter-revolutionary, and unfortunately has been tried to great effect in most of the world."

If the deep state has been willing to manipulate other countries' elections (Israel, etc.) when the outcome doesn't affect them deeply and personally, then it is almost assured they have influenced elections that DO affect them personally.

Posted by: Crazywalt77 at October 22, 2019 12:22 PM (ojae1)

408 >>>I'd let her "sign my yearbook".

I'm looking to retire in about five years. My choices are Texas and Arizona, but I keep hearing good things about Alabama.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 22, 2019 12:22 PM (VWp7G)

409 As you said, if cases can be brought they will be. I think they can and will be.

Posted by: JackStraw

Hi Jack - I get why folks are frustrated - I am only saying what my friend who was a US Attorney at the DOJ cautioned me about this case last week - for us laymen on the outside it seems like a slam dunk, but its never as easy as all that.

But I do agree with your that the President seems pretty adamant that this case is going to result in a new culture or organizing principle within our LE and IC agencies, and I believe him. And I truly believe that would require high profile indictments to happen.

Posted by: Boswell at October 22, 2019 12:23 PM (32YRo)

410 Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (O2RFr)
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Well Lurking Lurker was here but was crying about no FISA Report, Not Daunting Haunting Polls for PDT. I think Fart was banned yesterday by CBD, so he will be back as soon as he find an IP from VPN he hasn't burned

Posted by: I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!! at October 22, 2019 12:23 PM (BqBId)

411 402 Not one plotter is even indicted. Not one.

Yes, it takes a while to put a case together. Ask Papadopolous. And Flynn. And Manafort.
Posted by: blaster at October 22, 2019 12:21 PM (9VeU0)

Ask the college bribery dames, that went pretty damn fast. The foot dragging is intentional, and waiting for "an October surprise" is just as malignant as any other reason.

Posted by: I will fucking wait forever, you crazies at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (U7k5w)

412 398
Re Jessica Taylor

Given the viciously corrupt media and the violently insane left I
would think anyone willing to come out as a Trump supporter needs to be
given a wee bit of a chance.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 22, 2019 12:20 PM (Uu+Jp)

I'll be her best cheerleader, if she walks the talk. Until then, a lot of tea party types ended up being turds. I wish her success, and I applaud her stance and embrace of Trump supporters. But politicians become politicians for a reason.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (jYnPD)

413
Barr is a follower of Christ. Good 'nuff for me.
Posted by: stiffen the spine
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Paramount. But do not forget that he plays the bagpipes--that really seals the deal.
Posted by: IrishEi

It's a long way to the top...

Posted by: AC/DC at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

414 OT....but What the Ever Lovin' Hell????

https://tinyurl.com/y26wzm9c

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (axyOa)

415 This diplomacy thing is foreign and domestic, since DeepState operates as its own government/cartel.
Posted by: illiniwek

I find it interesting that Trump can help, or hurt, the UK in the Brexit situation a great deal. If the Brits come clean, maybe.

Posted by: One man's cynical Miklos is another man's realistic Miklos at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (QzkSJ)

416 Virtually anybody who holds and honest job and doesn't game the system would vote.
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The only restriction on voting I would support is citizenship. After all, the denizens of DC all believe firmly that their 'honest job' is worth a lot more than yours.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (MIKMs)

417 Felt a little INFRINGEMENT did you?
Posted by: garrett

That tickling of the prostate? Is that what we're calling it now?

Infingerment?

Posted by: Diesel Jones at October 22, 2019 12:25 PM (0CeRG)

418 >>Believing what Trump says and means and wanting him to succeed are different from believing that he will ultimately be successful in everything he sets out to do.

Obviously. He's been pretty good at delivering what he said he was going to do don't you agree?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)

419 I think the Rubicon was crossed a long time ago, when the citizenry of this Country didn't rise up and yank Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Clinton, et al, et ux, out of their beds and rip them to shreds with their bare hands.

Not a big fan of mob justice but I also don't like Coups and being lied to all day every day.

But, being a Christian and a believer in Law ampersand Order(tm), I guess I'll wait for trials and convictions.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (g7BLK)

420 I may move to Alabama to vote for that chick.

Her ad should be a template for others. Now, holding them to it, I'm not sure how to ensure that.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (lK7fO)

421 It's a long way to the top...
Posted by: AC/DC at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

Don't stop at the top.

Posted by: The Scorpions at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

422 >>I'm looking to retire in about five years. My choices are Texas and Arizona, but I keep hearing good things about Alabama.

Those are three awful choices. Unless you are allergic to snow and / or you are chigger proof.

Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (fjX/+)

423 If the deep state has been willing to manipulate
other countries' elections (Israel, etc.) when the outcome doesn't
affect them deeply and personally, then it is almost assured they have
influenced elections that DO affect them personally.

Posted by: Crazywalt77 at October 22, 2019 12:22 PM (ojae1)

Ukraine being the prototypical example. With cash going in, and cash going out directly into dems pockets. It is as clear as day.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (jYnPD)

424 http://bit.ly/2W8d49o
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BREAKING: Judge Allows Chicago Suit Against Jussie Smollett To Proceed

Posted by: I NEED iT !!! & I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!! at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (BqBId)

425
This diplomacy thing is foreign and domestic, since DeepState operates as its own government/cartel. Posted by: illiniwek
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As do the majority of the 100 Senators in DC.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2019 12:26 PM (MIKMs)

426 The NOOD thing

Posted by: Miklos is realistic Miklos at October 22, 2019 12:27 PM (QzkSJ)

427 I have no evidence to back this up, but given GEOTUS's background in entertainment, he knows that timing is everything.

Perhaps the indictments and legal action starts early in 2020, the year of the election. The dems get to run on defending the people who will be defending themselves for perpetrating the Deep State coup in 2016.

The fake news would be hard pressed not to cover the action, they'd give it short shrift but it would become part of the election whether they like it or not.

Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2019 12:27 PM (oGBso)

428 "Jessica Taylor for Congress: Three Ball from the Corner, IYKWIMAITYD"

Posted by: Sharkman at October 22, 2019 12:27 PM (g7BLK)

429 Obviously. He's been pretty good at delivering what he said he was going to do don't you agree?

Posted by: JackStraw

He also has more knowledge about this matter than anyone here - I am not sure he's been wrong on these matters.

Posted by: Boswell at October 22, 2019 12:28 PM (32YRo)

430 142 100 In the long run, the so-called "American Experiment" is dead.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (AURKQ)

There was a quote from John Adams to the effect that the Constitution works for people of moral and religious character. That's gone. Now there are uncountable special interests saying "I'm gonna get mine."

Government is just too big.

Posted by: FloridaMan at October 22, 2019 12:28 PM (7xila)

431 OT....but What the Ever Lovin' Hell????

https://tinyurl.com/y26wzm9c
Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2019 12:24 PM (axyOa)

My wife saw this the other day.

Why we're not much longer for this world. The batshitfuckingcrazy is being forced as norm and celebrated.

Posted by: The Scorpions at October 22, 2019 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)

432 DAMNIT!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at October 22, 2019 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)

433 "If you are a net payer, you get a vote.

If you are a net receiver, the largesse is what you get." Posted by:
Cato

that might wipe out a lot of low wage workers ... just remove the real welfare recipients from the voter role ... and the criminals. And remove the ACORN signups with 40 people at a fake address. It can be done, we have plenty of tech ... but the "commies" fight for fraud at every step.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2019 12:28 PM (Cus5s)

434 >>Hi Jack - I get why folks are frustrated - I am only saying what my friend who was a US Attorney at the DOJ cautioned me about this case last week - for us laymen on the outside it seems like a slam dunk, but its never as easy as all that.

>>But I do agree with your that the President seems pretty adamant that this case is going to result in a new culture or organizing principle within our LE and IC agencies, and I believe him. And I truly believe that would require high profile indictments to happen.

I absolutely agree. I've been saying here for a long time that there is a big difference between what we know and what can be proved in court. And given the scope of the investigation I'm not surprised in the least it is taking what seems like a long time but what in reality is not.

Nobody wants this over with more than me. But more than anything I want it done right.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:29 PM (ZLI7S)

435 Nood Brennan.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2019 12:30 PM (jYnPD)

436 If you are a net payer, you get a vote.
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And . . . let's not forget the State itself, who will get into all your business to determine who is eligible . . . or not.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 22, 2019 12:31 PM (MIKMs)

437 FWIW, Operation Greylord which targeted widespread corruption in Cook County took about 3 1/2 years to complete. Watergate took about two years from the burglary to Nixon's resignation and the investigation dragged on into 1977.

Since Session apparently did nothing nor did his Deputy (who was covering his own tracks). Essentially the investigation started shortly after Barr was confirmed in February of 2018. Thus, we are about 18 month or so into the process.

Complicated multi-part investigations take time in the most favorable conditions but with the media, intelligence, foreign policy, judicial, Congress, and law community serving as co-conspirators in the coverup, things have to be made crystal clear in order for prosecutions to be successful. That takes time to rollup a network.

At this time, I am neither surprised that it is taking so long nor do I believe that Barr is some sort of cleaner for the establishment. What I do believe is that the depth of the corruption is so deep that fixing it without damaging needful institutions such as the DOJ and intelligence is akin to changing the transmission of a car as it goes down the road.

My personal belief is that the Clinton raid on security clearance files early in 1993 along with the increasing domestic reach of NSA intercept capabilities after the switch to digital communications and computerization of records have created a perfect storm. Essentially we have arrived at the surveillance society.

Note the supposed penetration of Chinese intelligence into security clearance files has essentially kompromat materials on millions of federal workers and others with security clearances. Like Hillary's secret server, I would not be surprised that since the Chinese could be blamed that domestic political operatives took advantage to grab usable data themselves from SF-86 as the compromise could be blamed on the Chinese. The new CFPB has all electronic financial records and was designed to be unaccountable. Add in the IRS data collection by political operatives on Republicans, the John Doe investigations in Wisconsin, etc. etc. along with unauthorized access of NSA intercepts by "contractors" that is still going on, CIA spying on Senators, Awan's penetration of House and probably Senate Networks, Democratic/Deep State operatives probably have kompromat on most Republicans in elected office as well as in the bureaucracy.

That is why I suspect that Trump brought Barr in as he predated most of the digital kompromat materials but was there when a lot of this stuff began.

Posted by: whig at October 22, 2019 12:34 PM (MItID)

438

So Taylor Tinkered but was she a Soldier Spy?

I taught her everything she doesn't know.

Posted by: saf at October 22, 2019 12:35 PM (5IHGB)

439
Obviously. He's been pretty good at delivering what he said he was going to do don't you agree?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2019 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)

I agree. And I think Trump is the best president I've seen in office (including Reagan). BUT it does seem that he has a blind spot when it comes to people that wish to administratively destroy his presidency and this country's system of justice.

Posted by: Sooner at October 22, 2019 12:35 PM (Fs5vw)

440 Posted by: I NEED iT !!! I NEED IT NOW MOMMY !!!!! at October 22, 2019 12:18 PM (BqBId)

Trump was elected three years ago. 75% of his first term is now in the past.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2019 12:46 PM (CQ3Qb)

441 85 When God plays favorites and the favored one is almost certainly a smug prick about it, it tends to breed resentment.

Posted by: Insomniac>>
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Joseph at October 22, 2019 11:19 AM (NTkSq)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Zebedee's Other Son, the. apostle Jesus didn't love at October 22, 2019 12:47 PM (UkK38)

442 So isn't Schitt for brains "questioning" his ringer today?

Posted by: Adam Schiffty at October 22, 2019 12:49 PM (O2RFr)

443 I will also have a big bowl of Raisin Bran about 8PM tonight because aging sucks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 22, 2019 11:58 AM (C1Lsn)
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He is seeking a moving experience.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 22, 2019 02:25 PM (JNTt1)

444 Chuck should tell his pal Lindsay that he has subpoena power himself to drag Brennan to testify. And Clapper. Comey too, along with a bunch of other evil people. If Lindsay passes, though, then we all know the score.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at October 22, 2019 07:59 PM (SH7Tr)

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