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Robert Francis O'Rourke Calls for Tech/Financial Monopolies to Stop Americans From Buying Guns;
David French Expected to Write Column Condemning Conservatives For Wanting to Exert Counter-Pressure on His Corporate Pals Any Moment Now
See Update to Post's End, below the fold.
The left has decided it's far easier to get corporations to end American's access to the First and Second Amendment rights, and doing so with vigor, and getting big results. Meanwhile, the Corporatist Pseudo-Right continues insisting that Corporations Are Holy and should be allowed to deprive citizens of rights, because corporations are more important than citizens and often fund failing opinion website ventures. Don't even think about pushing back against the corporate hijacking of your American patrimony, plebes! The left-right corporatist alliance has decided that your rights will have to be surrendered.O'Rourke's plan is to drum up public pressure, beginning on debate day, on banks and credit card companies to refuse to handle any transaction involving assault weapons and firearm sales without a background check, most often found online and at gun shows. Additionally, he is calling on these financial institutions to deny services to all gun and ammunition manufacturers that produce or sell assault weapons. This call appears to be the first of its kind among the Democratic candidates.If you don't like it, peons, start your own Monopolies! (PS, the current monopolies also have unlimited Corporate Constitutional rights, enthusiastically championed by your Establishment Corporate-Service "Conservative" Ruling Class, to squelch any rising competitors, because Shut Up and Know Your Place).
If enough of us make our voices heard now, we will force banks and credit card companies to act. Add your name to this petition we’re sending Visa, Mastercard, and the big banks: https://t.co/GcNPVfVOc4
— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) September 12, 2019
Banks and credit card companies must:
— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) September 12, 2019
1⃣Refuse to take part in the sale of assault weapons.
2⃣Stop processing transactions for gun sales online & at gun shows without background checks.
3⃣Stop doing business with gun & ammo manufacturers who produce or sell assault weapons
If enough of us make our voices heard now, we will force banks and credit card companies to act. Add your name to this petition we’re sending Visa, Mastercard, and the big banks: https://t.co/GcNPVfVOc4
— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) September 12, 2019
The Constitution Is Not a Suicide Pact But the hard-left/pseudo-right corporatist alliance is a suicide pact -- and David French insists you sign on the dotted line. Surrender your speech, surrender your guns, and maybe we'll let you keep your bank account. Saint David does love the good press he gets from the Respectable Liberal Media, though:
Evangelical classic liberal applauds the sexualization of children in public spaces as a “blessing” of liberty: https://t.co/FH3hDlVwDv
— Julie Kelly (@julie_kelly2) September 12, 2019
It is always our duty to suffer for David’s principles
— Big Brown Dog (@Jckluge) September 12, 2019
Update: A Koch company -- and Koch funds a lot of your favorite corporatist pseudoconservatives -- announces it will start running ads defending their fellow corporate friends in Silicon Valley from anti-trust probes. Is this what you guys signed up for when you donated to the various corporate/establishment "conservative" causes? To see the entire conservative movement inverted, perverted into trampling your rights so it can devote itself 100% to promoting unlimited, unchallenged monopolistic freedom?
A conservative advocacy group that serves as the Koch family's political arm is coming to Silicon Valley's defense to push back against antitrust probes Google and Facebook are now facing from a vast array of state attorneys general. Americans for Prosperity will release advertisements on Facebook prodding users to contact their attorneys general and urge them not to turn the investigations into a "political spectacle." The ads are slated to run for two weeks but will likely continue, the organization said. They'll initially run in nine states whose AGs are involved in one or both probes.Libertarianism for your tech and corporate overlords, and subservience and serfdom for You. I used to support corporate liberty -- when I assumed, naively, that corporate liberty went hand-in-hand with individual liberty. But now corporations are signing on as eager enforcers of the leftist mob, depriving individuals of their liberties. And we're supposed to pretend this isn't happening, and continue supporting them to the full? Without reservation? Or are we just supposed to accept that of course corporate freedom is more important than personal freedom, because, I guess, corporations cut fatter checks to the "conservative" advocacy organizations and Republican congressmen?
"There are serious consequences to abusing this kind of enforcement that create troubling ripple effects for American workers and families. The AGs involved should not use this investigation as a means to score political points," Billy Easley, AFP's senior tech policy analyst, said in a statement.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:01 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:01 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at September 12, 2019 05:02 PM (eAshZ)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 12, 2019 05:03 PM (O8WFE)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at September 12, 2019 05:03 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: johnd01 at September 12, 2019 05:03 PM (ukNFU)
Bake the cake, board the helo, or mind their own damn business. Those are their three choices.
Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at September 12, 2019 05:02 PM (eAshZ)
Soon, there will be #4) Get on the train.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (N39Ws)
I don't need, I really don't but...fuck these guys. Fuck all these guys. These CEOs and bankers in particular.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: qzy at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (+F/z2)
Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (vd8XM)
I no longer see embedded tweets in this blog (or on Twitchy, for that matter!)
It started a few days ago.
(Using Chrome.)
ODDLY, if I used Incognito Mode the tweets show up.
Posted by: ArthurK at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (gk/9Q)
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (Z1ykJ)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (GlWnW)
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (90T4r)
This is warfare. Just with a low body count, so far.
Demonize the enemy (us) until you are justified in Spanish Civil War style purges.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (Kpl3J)
They used MY money to bail out too big to fail banks, and now they want to have the banks tell me what to do with the money I have left?
Longfellow
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (YslsA)
Posted by: torabora at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)
yes; and no.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (Kpl3J)
Nomination, this slack jawed dimwit is the one I most want to physically assault
Posted by: UGAdawg at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (5GZY8)
You can't even parody this NeverTrumper cuck stuff anymore.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (O8WFE)
Regardless of any of that, I wish we lived in a country with any form of official justice. If we did, any companies that complied with Robert Francis O'Rourke's ideas would be punished and likely broken up.
This sounds a lot like "conspiracy in restraint of trade" to me, and a blatant violation of antitrust law.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (e/H31)
Brilliant.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (37IEG)
I emailed the President asking him to stand up to this CEO Leftist alliance against gun owners.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:01 PM (bcbK
Since we now know it is OK to weaponize the IRS (See Lois Lerner et al), I think it is time we send them to every member of their Board of Directors, every CxO and the corporate offices. Time to audit their stuff for the past 7 years.Oh, it'll be time consuming for sure. And expensive. For them. Have the DOJ investigate each and every person mentioned above for collusion on attempting to deny people their civil rights. More time, more lawyer fees.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (zEFV1)
Posted by: Felonia Von Thundershart at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)
One reason they're making it harder to use cash.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (Z1ykJ)
Posted by: Yo! at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (1XAal)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 12, 2019 05:07 PM (ptqGC)
He's getting into Egg McMuffin-levels of creepiness.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 12, 2019 05:07 PM (O8WFE)
So now Trump can run against Wall Street AND the big banks.
This will totally juice the black vote.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:07 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:07 PM (90T4r)
Bake the cake, bend the knee, pay the tax... there's an end to the government selling off our individual rights coming, and I fear it's gonna get pretty damn ugly.
Posted by: IP at September 12, 2019 05:07 PM (QPvMy)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 12, 2019 05:08 PM (DrqHq)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at September 12, 2019 05:08 PM (dYe5S)
I might put an email in for Beto. The more gun owners violently hate crooked evil financiers, the better.
Posted by: trev006 at September 12, 2019 05:08 PM (2oB3D)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at September 12, 2019 05:08 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:08 PM (oVJmc)
Close. Some Democrat Congresscritter will have xer hand up the bank's ass making its lips move.
Posted by: torabora at September 12, 2019 05:08 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (wEvS2)
I hear only Brazil is further down that road than us. Has anyone else noticed what kids are being given to wear these days?
Posted by: Someguy at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (Wj9tV)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (zEFV1)
No CC service for Chick Fil A (because it's supposedly anti-gay), certain books won't be processed, certain political candidates will not be processed, website hosting and domains, and on and on.
Republican AGs need to start making examples and make it very clear if they go down this road it will be expensive for them.
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (sjTfF)
Beto is dancing faster and faster and faster, and it still isn't getting him anywhere.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (Kpl3J)
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I wonder if Liz Warren will jump on board with banks telling you want you can and can't buy.
Irony meter will explode.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (vd8XM)
++++++++
Our ruling class would adore the abolition of cash, largely for this very reason - to abolish cash is to abolish privacy.
The *only* reason I think they won't seriously consider it over here (Europe is another story, although their vanguard in this area - Sweden - has been dialing it back) is because of corruption.
Too much government nastiness is paid for with pallets of hundred dollar bills. Those become worthless if they can't repatriate through circulation.
In this one example, I think the desire of the elite to behave corruptly and steal our money will prevent them from outlawing cash and destroying our last semblance of anonymity and privacy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (e/H31)
(Using Chrome.)
ODDLY, if I used Incognito Mode the tweets show up.
Posted by: ArthurK at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (gk/9Q)
Oh man, of all the people and you're using Chrome? While it may be far and away the #1 browser, even in incognito mode google is capturing and storing everything you do. Use Pale Moon, Opera or Brave. Get a VPN (there's a so-so one built into Opera).
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (Z1ykJ)
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:10 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:10 PM (O2RFr)
Instead of never going Full Retard, he always goes Full Retard
Posted by: the Man who Burps in French at September 12, 2019 05:10 PM (8KSPd)
services to all gun and ammunition manufacturers that produce or sell
assault weapons. This call appears to be the first of its kind among the
Democratic candidates."
A Presidential candidate is calling on publicly held corporations to deny service to people he doesn't like.
This is not going to end well.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 12, 2019 05:10 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at September 12, 2019 05:10 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2019 05:10 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (zNeyg)
the problem is that Rosenberg the crook knows to skip town in advance, leaving unrelated Rosenberg the bagel baker to face the mob.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (GlWnW)
No CC service for Chick Fil A (because it's supposedly anti-gay), certain books won't be processed, certain political candidates will not be processed, website hosting and domains, and on and on.
Republican AGs need to start making examples and make it very clear if they go down this road it will be expensive for them.
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (sjTfF)
Blago be preachin'
...or prophesying...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (KZzsI)
It's rare enough to take a check.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (cxvn3)
Posted by: Brother Cavil
Make Anatolia Greek Again
at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (ZCEU2)
Come on.
It's like watching an old Jerry Lewis movie.
He still hasn't figured out "Beto" isn't going to sell nationwide.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (37IEG)
I wouldn't bet on that last part. E. Warren has proposed seizing 401-K's and savings in excess of what is "necessary".
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (LISuA)
The imaginary sales taking place, if they really were taking place via credit card with no 4473, would be through an individual using Square or some kind of indirect transfer app or whichever, because no business identifiable as a "gun business" can conduct its business without 4473s. Eliminating the ability of people to sell guns as a formal business without an FFL, like is already the law? Well done, genius.
so, unless this is a back-avenue means of forcing sellers who send to FFLs to fill out the 4473s (which it might be), that whole side of things is an indescribably vast sea of wank.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 12, 2019 05:12 PM (CGB5H)
Do the liberals really want to turn the entire gun industry into an
untraceable cash-only industry, like marijuana? Do they even try to
understand the consequences of their policies anymore?
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)
+++
Needle exchange program for the win. Now the tax-payers are supplying the users with unlimited clean needles so they can use and then toss around here there and everywhere.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 12, 2019 05:12 PM (9+jnX)
Posted by: gogman at September 12, 2019 05:12 PM (WLETU)
***********
Well we got pallets of cash from America ...hooray for us and F U Great Satan.
Posted by: Iran at September 12, 2019 05:12 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:13 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (LISuA)
+++++++++++++
Do I get her limits? Or do I, as a prole, have a different (and much lower) limit?
I know the answer, of course.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:13 PM (e/H31)
@Form4li7y -3 hr
I said if Dems got more extreme I would go #Trump2020. This is it. I'm done. Trump's reelection will be my first Republican vote. When a party wants to circumvent the constitution and legislative system with banks and corporations it's time to put a mark in the other column.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 12, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 12, 2019 05:14 PM (LISuA)
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 12, 2019 05:14 PM (CGB5H)
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 12, 2019 05:14 PM (fsa/N)
I know the answer, of course.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:13 PM (e/H31)
Are you a certified Native American like she is? I'll bet not!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:14 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (O2RFr)
Well we got pallets of cash from America ...hooray for us and F U Great Satan.
Posted by: Iran at September 12, 2019 05:12 PM (Y274z)
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This is an important point. There are a number of reasons why it would be MUCH more difficult for the US to go cashless than other countries.
But a big one is that the Deep State globalists run a good part of this world with hard cash transfer payments done in the dark. And the coin of the realm is the USD.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Ace Your Jerkstore Customer Service Representative at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (90T4r)
I know the answer, of course.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:13 PM (e/H31)
You're one of the "too many people" on planet Earth. Your limit will be set to maximize your misery until you do the right thing and volunteer for assisted suicide.
Posted by: George Silver at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (wCmLp)
The nice thing about the stupidest leftists is that they don't conceal their real intentions in early stages of the takeover, like the smarter ones do.
I believe the occasional noises being made about becoming a cashless society are related to this credit sabotage idea. The government harassment regarding large sums of cash comes to mind as well.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (zG9fK)
Do they even try to understand the consequences of their policies anymore?
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)
One reason they're making it harder to use cash.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (Z1ykJ)
Joe Huffman calls it the "Jews in the Attic Test". Any new law or corporate policy that would make it more difficult to hide Jews from the Nazi murderers.
https://tinyurl.com/8kknx
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:15 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Brother Cavil
Make Anatolia Greek Again
at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (AM1GF)
************
How quaint
Posted by: Corrupted Justice Roberts at September 12, 2019 05:16 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 12, 2019 05:13 PM (ptqGC)
I think there's gonna be a lot of that.
Posted by: Jewells45 at September 12, 2019 05:16 PM (dUJdY)
Ahmari kept returning to the extremist complaint that Drag Queen Story Hours are being staged for children in public libraries. To him, these were a sign of "a five-alarm cultural fire."
French, who spent years as a litigator, replied that he had never understood what Ahmari wanted the government to do about Drag Queen Story Hour --- which tenets of local control or free speech he would have the Trump Administration set aside. The same First Amendment principle that allows drag queens to read to children in public libraries had also allowed Christian groups to flourish, French said, by permitting them to organize in universities and other public spaces.
So he's now defending drag queen story our, huh?
Insert latest Paul Joseph Watson rant here, because it's a perfect response to French's attitude:
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/
1171474834351480833
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2019 05:16 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2019 05:16 PM (RLB07)
It's the only way.
Posted by: RKae at September 12, 2019 05:16 PM (LTccB)
It takes money to fight money.
Very few rich conservatives willing to fight anymore, and the ones that do fight, fight to protect their rice bowl, not ours.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (bcbK8)
"They're talking about me! All is right with the world!"
Posted by: Ted K. at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (FJYfm)
It's rare enough to take a check.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
___________________
But banks are starting to not allow say a gun store to be a customer and have a checking account or acquire financing for business, etc.
PayPal won't allow you to buy gun supplies online.
The Left is having a lot of success going down this road.
I know everyone wants to say cash will fix all of this, but huge swaths of the population will just stop being into guns as a hobby if this continues.
You need basic banking services to run a business.
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (sjTfF)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (jBMZ9)
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (sjTfF)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: the Man who Burps in French
And now, in it's newest release, staring Robert Frances O'Rourke in
FULL METAL RETARD!
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
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Chase is a bad one. Trust me.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (Y4EXg)
I hope that any sane people are paying attention to this - but worry they're not. At all.
We're going to have to win 2020 in a landslide to barely eke out a win, between the massive voter fraud that will take place.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (Z1ykJ)
Regardless of any of that, I wish we lived in a country with any form of official justice. If we did, any companies that complied with Robert Francis O'Rourke's ideas would be punished and likely broken up.
This sounds a lot like "conspiracy in restraint of trade" to me, and a blatant violation of antitrust law.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:06 PM (e/H31)
It would arguably be a group boycott, illegal under the Sherman Act.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (NWiLs)
Now I know why Beto has an irrational anger against credit cards!
When you flip your board and manage to plant it deep between your butt cheeks - that is known as getting "creditcarded".
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (tkyK5)
Ref: Title 42, Section 1985 of the US Code.
Where is Antifa? Isn't Beta conspiring with private businesses to deny Civil Rights? Isn't this sort of government direction classic Fascism?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:18 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:11 PM (GlWnW)
Dude, I love that bagel guy's shop. But while Soros might get away, I can't imagine he'll so considerate to his minions. Too bad, so sad.
Posted by: trev006 at September 12, 2019 05:18 PM (2oB3D)
Posted by: Tonypete at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (Y4EXg)
Which is bad, because I think Citi is worse.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:18 PM (Z1ykJ)
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I'm betting that if you have savings you're above her limits, and if you haven't saved sh*t you're below the limit.
Ta-dah.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 12, 2019 05:18 PM (fsa/N)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:18 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:19 PM (GlWnW)
Posted by: Lighten Up Francis at September 12, 2019 05:19 PM (JrAia)
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:19 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Abby at September 12, 2019 05:19 PM (y+y6e)
No CC service for Chick Fil A (because it's supposedly anti-gay), certain books won't be processed, certain political candidates will not be processed, website hosting and domains, and on and on.
Already happening. Milo's latest book? Amazon is refusing to order any more copies, so when the bulk they purchased sells out, no more sales on Amazon. Laura Loomer and others have had their Chase accounts shut down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:20 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2019 05:20 PM (vhGeK)
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:20 PM (nFwvY)
In Texas, simply having a Concealed Handgun License is sufficient to replace the background check.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (lD3vL)
Once we get our bar code tattoos, everything will be so easy!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
We'll be "chipped" like a dog.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (aKsyK)
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Rape and incest porn is okay, though. I'm guessing abortion, too. And tires, liquor, rope...
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (fsa/N)
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Gref at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (AMIL/)
We're going to have to win 2020 in a landslide to barely eke out a win, between the massive voter fraud that will take place.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (Z1ykJ)
+++
Obama Two-Times has left me forever fearful of the outcome of any presidential election.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (9+jnX)
The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any."
-- US DOJ website
Posted by: rcat at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (dazWW)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:19 PM (GlWnW)
Wait. Are you saying the Apostle John was insane?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (bcbK8)
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (fsa/N)
Lampposts?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Phill Connars at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (98C1j)
O'Rourke's plan is to drum up public pressure, beginning on debate day, on banks and credit card companies to refuse to handle any transaction involving
Additionally, he is calling on these financial institutions to deny services to all
Or, would he use the DoJ to harass and prosecute said businesses for discrimination (like Obama did)?
I think we should be clear on how the rules work, and if they're good for guns, then they're good for other things, too.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (bDqIh)
A big, high capacity magazine gun.
/I don't really know if this is their intended response
Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (l/6vt)
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (sjTfF)
++++++++++++
The economy needs banks. The economy does not need *these* banks.
Destroy them. Yes, this will cause a harsh recession. It will be extremely disruptive. Destroy them anyway. They shouldn't have been bailed out in the first place but what's done is done in that regard. Revoke their Primary Dealer statuses for the United States Treasury and close the Fed window. They'll start to wither. Then ratchet up the reserve requirements by a couple of points and then liquidate them for being under-capitalized. Close the Fed window completely for them if possible.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (e/H31)
I love pawn shops. I was in an IL pawn shop or two in the last couple weeks and most of them around here (Springfield) have done just that. They gave up gun sales because of the new laws in effect for them.
Hell, the record keeping alone is driving the small ones out of business already, tbh.
Posted by: IP at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (QPvMy)
So for those insisting that libertarians are the opposite of commies, nope, just another path to get there.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: the Man who Burps in French
Mister, I don't have to GO Full Retard. I was BORN Full Retard!
Posted by: Beto at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Free Territories Pirate Radio at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (bBfLO)
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:17 PM (sjTfF)
One good thing about the capitalist system, If there is an opportunity to make money, someone will provide the financial services to gun manufacturers and gun purchasers.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (zNeyg)
In Texas, simply having a Concealed Handgun License is sufficient to replace the background check.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
True. But if I'm selling you a gun, I'm not taking a cc.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (RLB07)
So Joe's Gun Shop puts in an ATM under Joe's Bank LLC and you go and withdraw what you need.
DONE. What a fucking retard.
Nothing like infringing on people's rights for something you won't have any effectiveness in achieving.
Posted by: deadrody at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (V9901)
Yeah, whoever it was on the left who got the idea of colonizing, subverting, and weaponizing libertarianism against conservatism is a fucking evil genius.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (RD7QR)
Simply? Doesn't having an active Concealed Handgun License presuppose an elaborate background check?
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (oVJmc)
An embarrassment to his gender, whatever it may be.
*makes empty, meaningless gesture*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. ,etc. at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (hnyqs)
David French can go fuck himself.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (zEFV1)
It was in Alabama as well until last month. We've lost our safe harbor with the ATF because some sheriffs were apparently issuing them to prohibited persons.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (cxvn3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (ptqGC)
So for those insisting that libertarians are the opposite of commies, nope, just another path to get there.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (cfSRQ)
Thanks for the Stanley Payne ref. I'm reading it now.
It's...interesting, seeing parallels in how the Left seeks to disenfranchise its enemies.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:24 PM (bcbK8)
Then, the government will tell the banks which businesses are allowed to use the banks, and which services I can access, after using my money to bail them out.
The mafia has nothing on these guys.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 12, 2019 05:24 PM (YslsA)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had a B-Wing, and Called It Brad at September 12, 2019 05:24 PM (Clxcy)
Someone needs to tell Beto that Greenpeace needs an extra person to hang off the bridge in the Port of Houston.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (ptqGC)
He can bring his skateboard and a Beto 2020 flag
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:24 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:25 PM (nFwvY)
In any case, I got a postcard from Americans For Prosperity yesterday praising our D Congresscritter.
Now I see they are a Koch outfit. When did the Koch's decide that they were Democrats after all the evil Kochitlerburton stuff?
Posted by: Vanceone at September 12, 2019 05:25 PM (KbgjX)
charges unspecified.
Leakin' and Lyin'
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:21 PM (nRWPy)
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This is to inspire others to flip and for him to cooperate further.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:25 PM (cfSRQ)
I do think he's looking less crazy by the year.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:25 PM (GlWnW)
Just sayin. Your tax dollars at work.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (zEFV1)
Any corporation that buckles to the will of a guy who is only followed by 1% of the Democrat Party doesn't deserve to continue to exist.
Posted by: 29Victor at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (BJKQV)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (oVJmc)
So Joe's Gun Shop puts in an ATM under Joe's Bank LLC and you go and withdraw what you need.
DONE. What a fucking retard.
Nothing like infringing on people's rights for something you won't have any effectiveness in achieving.
Posted by: deadrody
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None of this is intellectually serious. Beto, et al, are simply stirring the self-righteous anger pot. They are merely trying to gen up anger against conservatives, and create division among the populace.
The media are happy to carry the water.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. ,etc. at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (hnyqs)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)
I really want to believe that tabletop CNC is going to make gun control irrelevant.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (RD7QR)
In any case, I got a postcard from Americans For Prosperity yesterday praising our D Congresscritter.
Now I see they are a Koch outfit. When did the Koch's decide that they were Democrats after all the evil Kochitlerburton stuff?
Posted by: Vanceone at September 12, 2019 05:25 PM (KbgjX)
When Trump won the primary.
Posted by: Someguy at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (Wj9tV)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgie Peach at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (ZqRa6)
Posted by: Vanceone
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The day Trump said that he would shut down illegal aliens taking American jobs.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (YslsA)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (zEFV1)
Capitalism and a free people would find a way around all of this.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (xosvL)
So for those insisting that libertarians are the opposite of commies, nope, just another path to get there.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (cfSRQ)
Libertarians and anarchists both want rid of the government. The only difference is the Libertarians are naďve enough and stupid enough to think we'll all then happily govern ourselves. The anarchists are evil enough to know that once the government falls, the anarchists will effectively rule us.
Posted by: Ted K. at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (FJYfm)
So Joe's Gun Shop puts in an ATM under Joe's Bank LLC and you go and withdraw what you need.
DONE. What a fucking retard.
Nothing like infringing on people's rights for something you won't have any effectiveness in achieving.
Posted by: deadrody
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None of this is intellectually serious. Beto, et al, are simply stirring the self-righteous anger pot. They are merely trying to gen up anger against conservatives, and create division among the populace.
The media are happy to carry the water.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. ,etc. at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (hnyqs)
It MIGHT be rhetoric and posturing now. In 2025, it may be policy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (bcbK8)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:20 PM (KZzsI)
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This is the reason that the destruction of our legal tradition is so dangerous. This was writ large with the entire Trump investigation fiasco.
In a fair system, a just a system - a system like the one we used to have - the cops investigate *crimes* to try to find the perpetrators.
When you turn this on its head - that is, when you toss out presumption of innocence - the cops instigate *people* to find crimes. Add in a complex and often self-contradictory legal code that effectively guarantees that everyone is a criminal, blend it with big data, and you have a perfect totalitarian police state.
Not that this has never been done before, but it was always small in scale because it was a combination of extremely expensive, extremely taboo and likely to draw the ire of your constituents.
It is now not only possible to do this on a wide scale, it is cheap and easy to do this on a wide scale now. The *only* thing preventing it is the taboo - the practical considerations no longer exist. Now the taboo is being destroyed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (e/H31)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2019 05:20 PM (vhGeK)
Doing good, thanks! Released from the hospital yesterday, and just hanging out at home for a few days. Should be back to work on Monday for light duty.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: redridinghood at September 12, 2019 05:27 PM (wiXsO)
I really want to believe that tabletop CNC is going to make gun control irrelevant.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 12, 2019 05:26 PM (RD7QR)
I watched a good video on using a bottle jack press to rifle a pistol barrel. Quite entertaining.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (cxvn3)
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It's neat that I'm guessing those sheriffs are not only not in federal prison but still in office, and people who didn't break the law get to lose their rights.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (fsa/N)
I do think he's looking less crazy by the year.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 12, 2019 05:25 PM (GlWnW)
Yeah, the whole thing is a big muddle. Lots of current stances are based on Church traditions. The time of the writing of Revelations varies among scholars. I hold a minority view on the matter.
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (90T4r)
So they're going to reinstate feudalism and make sure nobody but them gets meat and electricity and cars and stuff.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (nRWPy)
Think it depends on the state/locality. NH will do a quick background check on you and is managed at the town level - though valid statewide (and reciprocating states). Utah's CCW you not only get a deeper background check, you have to submit fingerprints which go to the feds.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (N39Ws)
(LOL, of course not. because they are DOING something about evil guns....)
Posted by: Iris at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (lSFe/)
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (nRWPy)
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:29 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Puddleglum, deep state Fed contractor at September 12, 2019 05:29 PM (vgyUN)
Newsflash, French, you ignorant sob. There is a plethora of state banks and credit unions salivating for this to happen.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:29 PM (vMDnu)
The mafia has nothing on these guys.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 12, 2019 05:24 PM (YslsA)
+++++++++++++++
They never have.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 12, 2019 05:29 PM (e/H31)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (n1yOz)
Yank it and file suits for restraint of trade... or does that only go away when we try to restrain china?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:23 PM (cxvn3)
Someone needs to red flag those sheriffs if not flat out arrest them.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (RLB07)
*giggles like a schoolgirl*
Posted by: Max Power at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (llxrS)
I used to support corporate liberty -- when I assumed, naively, that corporate liberty went hand-in-hand with individual liberty.
But now corporations are signing on as eager enforcers of the leftist mob, depriving individuals of their liberties.
And we're supposed to pretend this isn't happening, and continue supporting them to the full? Without reservation?
Or are we just supposed to accept that of course corporate freedom is more important than personal freedom, because, I guess, corporations cut fatter checks to the "conservative" advocacy organizations?
Posted by: Ace Your Jerkstore Customer Service Representative at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (ZCEU2)
Mistakes were made. Due diligence was not effected.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (cxvn3)
colonizing, subverting, and weaponizing libertarianism against
conservatism is a fucking evil genius.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (RD7QR)
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It's baked into the libertarian cake.
If the state has little/no power, who fills that vacuum?
Private businesses or associations.
Who are they accountable to?
Either shareholders or their fellow militia members.
Libertarianism is con. Has been for a long time.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
________________
I don't always believe capitalism will rescue us. That's sort of a TruCon talking point.
If say 4-5 financial firms went down this road, it would wipe out most of the industry.
Sure, we can do parking lot transactions with cash, but the Left will have wiped out a way for "normal" people to get guns and ammo. And any business to sell firearms in a manner that allows them to make a decent living.
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (sjTfF)
Posted by: Santa in a Red Suit at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 12, 2019 05:28 PM (ZGrMX)
They should read up on the free cities of Flanders, run by trade, not nobility.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Bruce at September 12, 2019 05:04 PM (vd8XM)
A-a-a-a-and, now you understand why the War on Cash is a thing.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (n8Jib)
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (90T4r)
Surrender your speech, surrender your guns, and maybe we'll let you keep your bank account.
Newsflash, French, you ignorant sob. There is a plethora of state banks and credit unions salivating for this to happen.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:29 PM (vMDnu)
Keep in mind that there are only a handful of credit card processors. They process these transactions for the merchants. Getting them to stop taking transactions from certain merchants (firearm dealers, etc.) is a lot easier than going after individual banks.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (N39Ws)
Beto should be required to pee in a cup five times a day.
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 12, 2019 05:32 PM (n1yOz)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 12, 2019 05:32 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at September 12, 2019 05:32 PM (uGHnY)
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:32 PM (nRWPy)
Also, does anyone have a legal definition of "assault weapon"? And if so, and they are confusing this with select-fire small arms like the M4 and M16, doesn't this pretty much eliminate domestic manufacturers of weapons that are used by the police and military?
So Beta wants Colt and whoever has military or LE contracts to no longer have any bank access.
H&K, FNL and IMI must love this.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:32 PM (lD3vL)
Sounds like a country song.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (ZLI7S)
Or the story of the crazy astronaut lady who put on the diapers to drive and kill her rival.
Posted by: Ted K. at September 12, 2019 05:33 PM (FJYfm)
Well it makes you fell ok
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2019 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 12, 2019 05:22 PM (RD7QR)
Libertarians were never friends of conservatives. The two were merely allies during the Cold War, when the threat of global communism forced them to put aside differences. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the USSR, libertarians shifted their allegiance to the left, in large part because of their social liberalism. They didn't want to be associated with those yucky social conservatives who believed in things like Jesus and monogamy and avoiding drugs.
Posted by: George Silver at September 12, 2019 05:33 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (Zv1X1)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (6qErC)
In the future, every new business will have to be designated a utility until proven otherwise. You like statism, lefties? Well there it is -- conservative style.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (13CQC)
2. We can totally stop them from buying guns.
Beto O'Rourke says both of these things unironically.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (cxTzE)
Really? And what is the Merchant Code for firearm dealers?
Because that is how the CC processors categorize vendors.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (lD3vL)
I was going to bring up the prevalence of mass stabbings, and that maybe mass incarcerations in Xinjiang and the police thuggery in Hong Kong ought to dampen her enthusiasm for guns only in the hands of the government, but I didn't feel like getting into it in the break room.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (kQs4Y)
H&K, FNL and IMI must love this.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
They'll be exempted for governmental sales.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (RLB07)
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (wcEXp)
What? Why is everybody looking at me like that? Wait, everybody is looking. This is awesome!
I'm going to be president. I just know it.
Posted by: Robert Francis O'Rourke at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (6eEQ+)
Irony meter will explode.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:09 PM (cfSRQ)
Warren wants government to install people on corporate boards, civilians for now I think. I suspect she's thought of this already.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (dtGRk)
surprise, your bonds are forfeit. send those fuckers to the poor house.
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (nFwvY)
Of course I don't expect anyone to answer in the affirmative.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (zNeyg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 12, 2019 05:36 PM (NugC9)
But now corporations are signing on as eager enforcers of the leftist mob, depriving individuals of their liberties.
And we're supposed to pretend this isn't happening, and continue supporting them to the full? Without reservation?
Or are we just supposed to accept that of course corporate freedom is more important than personal freedom, because, I guess, corporations cut fatter checks to the "conservative" advocacy organizations?
Corporate freedom always came with an underlying assumption that corporations would generally stay out of politics unless it directly affected them (such as Microsoft having a stance on intellectual property law changes) and wouldn't want to piss off half of the country that were their consumers.
Now big corporations look overseas to China as their main market, and increasing gaps in wealth between the coastal areas and the flyover areas hit hardest by outsourcing mean that they increasingly view conservative consumers as disposable.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 12, 2019 05:36 PM (wCmLp)
A Fascist at heart. Who knew... besides everyone?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 12, 2019 05:36 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (NugC9)
Because that is how the CC processors categorize vendors.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy
22? 38? 45?
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (RLB07)
corporate freedom is more important than personal freedom, because, I
guess, corporations cut fatter checks to the "conservative" advocacy
organizations?
Posted by: Ace Your Jerkstore Customer Service Representative at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (PbpT7)
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The cucks think that they will be part of the Ruling Class inside the wire.
That's why they're so eager to sell out on every "principle" that the base holds dear.
When Super-Evangelical David French plants his holy standard on the sacred hill of Drag Queen Storytime, he's right that it isn't about that issue per se, it's about the ability to the elite to do whatever they want, wherever they want.
The guy has some serious skeletons. I'm sure of it.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (cfSRQ)
but I am laughing at the twatwaffles who thought they could shut down the US oil industry by hanging from a bridge near Houston.
That's weapons grade funneh right there.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (6qErC)
Woka woka!!
Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (okmc8)
With all due respect to the thought leaders from New Jersey.
Posted by: Yeah at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (TxM3A)
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (90T4r)
card processors. They process these transactions for the merchants.
Getting them to stop taking transactions from certain merchants (firearm
dealers, etc.) is a lot easier than going after individual banks.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (N39Ws)
Cabela's and similar retailers will not like that. I can buy an AR-15 and 30-round mags at Cabelas's, or beef jerky and fishing reels and a boat and clothing, and the total cost's about the same. Will retailers and credit card processors have to build a system that provides and screens itemized lists for every purchase? The devil is in the details, Beto.
Posted by: Gref at September 12, 2019 05:38 PM (AMIL/)
Surprise! They've discovered that they can make a lot more money by keeping us under control and bringing a whole bunch of badly paid immigrants into the country to take our places. But, "Liberty!" right?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:38 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 12, 2019 05:38 PM (FKHWN)
He's just pissing up a rope to see how high he can make it go.
Some banks would do well to remember that credit cards are unsecured loans.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 12, 2019 05:38 PM (vhGeK)
Posted by: PhilJ at September 12, 2019 05:38 PM (gHS20)
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at September 12, 2019 05:39 PM (fsa/N)
Should we demand government force businesses to do business with who they do not want to?
DO we put these mega businesses that are so critical to our lives and the economy under government control like a utility or just straight government control?
Do we pass laws that protect people's ability to interact with businesses without regard to our personal background or views?
How do we address this problem, because its not going away. It is only going to get worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (wcEXp)
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:29 PM (vMDnu)
Keep in mind that there are only a handful of credit card processors. They process these transactions for the merchants. Getting them to stop taking transactions from certain merchants (firearm dealers, etc.) is a lot easier than going after individual banks.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:31 PM (N39Ws)
The individual merchants can issue their own credit cards. They need not use Bank Too Big To Fail, they can use a local state bank and issue the card through them.
That's what the state banks are waiting for.
They've already talked about it in meetings.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (vMDnu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
That's a grand illusion. Everything has it's limits. Even huge, seemingly invincible corporations.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (xosvL)
A coworker suggested that yes, China was a totalitarian system, but they
prohibit gun ownership and hey presto they don't have the mass killings
we have. Maybe they're on to something? *shrugs*
I was going to bring up the prevalence of mass stabbings, and that
maybe mass incarcerations in Xinjiang and the police thuggery in Hong
Kong ought to dampen her enthusiasm for guns only in the hands of the
government, but I didn't feel like getting into it in the break room.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (kQs4Y)
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No need to do that. Just ask you co-worker how she knows these things.
And I'm serious. Lean forward curiously. "Yes, but how do you know that? China controls all media. They could have massacres every week. You have no idea if they do or not. No one does."
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: jennifer anniston's perky nipples at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (FKHWN)
Big Tech, Big Banking, Big Government, Big.... where do we fit in again, exactly??
Posted by: kraken at September 12, 2019 05:37 PM (90T4r)
Livin in de cabins on de lawn, down below de Big House - slave.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Cash at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (ABjxW)
It's not, but we're gonna feel oh so much better!
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at September 12, 2019 05:35 PM (dtGRk)
Don't look around, oh-oh!
The Commissar's in town, oh-oh-oh!
Awesome, we won the Cold War.
And yet, here we are ready to install a Commissariat, Soviet-Style.
One Party Political Police in every business everywhere.
I can't wait!
Posted by: naturalfake at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (n8Jib)
There is no Merchant Category Code for Firearms dealer, they can either fall under Pawn Shop (5933), or Sporting Goods (5941)
The point being, VISA, MassahCard, Discover, et al have no way to know that the purchase is specifically from a firearms dealer.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (lD3vL)
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Defending the US Constitution =/= "political points"
Typical oligarchic corporatist political pointless spokeshole ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (wEvS2)
Their mass killings are all professional.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (cxvn3)
Tyrant. A tyrant at heart. Not a fascist. A would-be dictator.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (ZCEU2)
Not many mass shootings in North Korea either. That's always been the lure of the Police State - Hitler, after all, was going to "make the Trains run on time". Security in exchange for Freedom. Which one do you value more?
If you value security more than freedom, then you're no American.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (wcEXp)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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They ignore OUR outrage and anger but if some SJW twat on Twitter says Company X isn't WOKE, they will throw BILLIONS to placate some nobody on Twitter.
Up until the last few decades, most companies and CEOs were conservative and just wanted to do business and not alienate anyone. They went out of their way to be neutral.
The modern CEO and company though is completely different. I'm sure some of it has to do with the biggest companies on Earth are now near San Francisco.
There needs to be some political/legal strategy from conservatives to wrangle this in and make sure political discrimination is outlawed. Boycotts and creating our own platform is not going to cut it.
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (sjTfF)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
it's been the law since the 60's, Taylor
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:42 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (cxvn3)
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Exactly. None of this redneck freelance shit!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:42 PM (kQs4Y)
He doesn't understand why the country isn't falling all over itself to make him President.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:42 PM (37IEG)
If the banks and paypal refuse your service, you cant shop online or use a card to purchase anything. If the ISPs refuse to allow you access, you can't use the internet at all. If the phone companies refuse you their services, you can't have a cell phone.
That works great if you live in Scio, Oregon and have a farm. The rest of us?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:42 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)
And that's more than half. They just bitch about what makes them secure.
Posted by: Yeah at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (TxM3A)
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (ZCEU2)
Whether they realized it or not, that's probably one of the most true statements ever made about the topic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (Kpl3J)
The notion that any of us have any idea what really happens is China is absurd.
I'll bet my left nut that there's a Mass Stabbing Spree every day in China.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (NugC9)
That's where you just say, "Yeah, when you have slaves things are easier."
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (nRWPy)
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That was Mussolini. Hitler was going to fix you up with a swank slim-fit Hugo Boss suit.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (kQs4Y)
He doesn't understand why the country isn't falling all over itself to make him President.
I'm not so sure he doesn't believe they love him
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: blake - from a Blackberry, no less! at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (+vAGU)
Posted by: This is CNN at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Anon a mouse
No one may be at the moment, but you can bet your ass that this is their game plan for 2024.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (RLB07)
They seem to have pretty routine mass knifings.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (oVJmc)
Defending the US Constitution =/= "political points"
Typical oligarchic corporatist political pointless spokeshole ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 12, 2019 05:41 PM (wEvS2)
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People need to take all the old "Kochtopus" crap and start bringing it to Dem campaign events.
I'm 100 percent serious. Make them own the fact that they are now with the people they demonized for 20 years.
Candidates should be made to denounce Koch cash.
Posted by: Convalescing Author A.H. Lloyd at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (cfSRQ)
Beware any law that removes the Approve/Disapprove in 3 days, or you can proceed with the sale "loophole."
Imagine how easy it is to stop sales if you could stop background checks?
Posted by: rd at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Roy at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (ABjxW)
https://tinyurl.com/yxrs8t72
Just the tip.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (ZLI7S)
And we have a problem with some homosexual couple destroying a cake shop for refusing to decorate them a special cake.
For good reason.
Is that where we want to go with banks and online businesses and the rest? Compel them against their will to serve people and do business with them?
What's the answer?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (KZzsI)
'Social Credit Score.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (oVJmc)
244 Buggo liked the limelight in Texas last year.
He doesn't understand why the country isn't falling all over itself to make him President.
I'm not so sure he doesn't believe they love him
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (O2RFr)
The leftcoasties were hot on him, when he was going to be someone else's Stupid Senator.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: x
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And pussy banks can be grabbed!
Posted by: RKae at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (LTccB)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (Ope+i)
Posted by: Roy at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (ABjxW)
When it's time to bury them - it's really the time to dig them up.
Law be damned.
Posted by: Yeah at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (TxM3A)
And as a bonus for obtaining a Happy Hunt & Fish credit card YourState Bank will give you a free checking account and free autopay.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (vMDnu)
In theory it could be accomplished with UPC code for those products that have a UPC. New codes would have to be conjured up for every form of human activity and custom crafted products that is possible.
Sort of how they force physicians to enter in medical codes for whatever ailment closely approximates whatever is in their list.
Given that, the amount of intrusion into a person's life where Big Tech can have visibility into the very details of every transaction would certainly bring about a shot in the arm to the crypto currency and cash economy.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:46 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 12, 2019 05:46 PM (Pg+x7)
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I read that as "free autopsy".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:46 PM (kQs4Y)
They seem to have pretty routine mass knifings.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (oVJmc)
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And a MILLION Muslim Uighurs in concentration camps, excuse me, Re-Education Camps.
Bet your buddy gets a woody thinking of those camps too!
Posted by: rd at September 12, 2019 05:47 PM (+0uDE)
How about this: if you accept Federal funds to get bailed out, you have to abide by all of the Constitution and not deny anyone's rights.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 12, 2019 05:47 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:47 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2019 05:47 PM (cxvn3)
Posted by: Roy at September 12, 2019 05:44 PM (ABjxW)
And there'll always be someone manufacturing weapons and ammo.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 05:47 PM (xosvL)
The idea that they can act using the People's currency to subvert the public's Constitutional right is a bit larger than citizen X baking a cake for Adam and Steve.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:48 PM (oVJmc)
Sort of like how it is nearly impossible to purchase narcotics and undocumented drugs.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:48 PM (lD3vL)
They loved him for a while thinking of him as the "white Obama" and next president until it became clear what a freaking weirdo and likely drug addict he was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:48 PM (KZzsI)
When it's time to bury them - it's really the time to dig them up.
Law be damned.
Posted by: Yeah at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (TxM3A)
Old Irish joke - getting the potato bed dug up by the police for the old man by talking about the where you buried the guns.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:48 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 05:49 PM (FiUMj)
An uptick in 3D printers and milling machines from Harbor Freight
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:49 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at September 12, 2019 05:49 PM (qSCcj)
How would you define that in terms of law? Where one sector of the economy is free to act as it chooses and another is not? And how much power do you want to give the government to make those choices?
But i thought that IG report was supposed to come out on the 12th?
#TwoWeeks
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:49 PM (KZzsI)
They loved him for a while thinking of him as
the "white Obama" and next president until it became clear what a
freaking weirdo and likely drug addict he was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:48 PM (KZzsI)
They were okay with him screwing up Texas as a Senator. Not so okay with what a train wreck he is as a Presidential candidate.
And he's such a bright boy, he can't see that.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:49 PM (37IEG)
weeks and most of them around here (Springfield) have done just that.
They gave up gun sales because of the new laws in effect for them.
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Some of the other IL folk around here may recall a 'mass shooting' in Aurora, IL that somehow disappeared within a day or two. Employment related, but handgun owned by ex-employee was prohibited, against the law, and registered to the perp.
More new laws that won't be enforced. Everyone wants to be Chicago, I guess.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 12, 2019 05:50 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:46 PM (lD3vL)
What Betabutthole suggests is really the start of the road back to a cash-only society.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 05:50 PM (xosvL)
He is allergic to fighting the culture war.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 12, 2019 05:50 PM (IZqVn)
244 Buggo liked the limelight in Texas last year.
He doesn't understand why the country isn't falling all over itself to make him President.
I'm not so sure he doesn't believe they love him
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:43 PM (O2RFr)
The leftcoasties were hot on him, when he was going to be someone else's Stupid Senator.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:45 PM (37IEG)
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They don't love Beta, They HATED Ted Cruz.
They still hate Ted Cruz. They will always hate Ted Cruz.
Posted by: rd at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (+0uDE)
And we have a problem with some homosexual couple destroying a cake shop for refusing to decorate them a special cake.
For good reason.
Is that where we want to go with banks and online businesses and the rest? Compel them against their will to serve people and do business with them?
What's the answer?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I think those are two very different issues. Especially considering the whole "closely held business" test. Plus, gay people could go ANYWHERE else and get a damn cake made.
But a publicly traded company that controls banking or a tech company that controls the internet, there are no other options. And no good reason except a CEO wanting to impress his peers.
I'm 100% okay with say a company discriminating against a conservative being just as illegal as a company not doing business with a racial minority.
Posted by: Blago at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (sjTfF)
And no one will mention the fact Bob O'Rourke ran on NONE of this
far-leftist crap in 2018 in Texas.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (NugC9)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 12, 2019 05:50 PM (MIKMs)
++++++++++++++
This is my understanding.
Posted by: Bill Maher at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (e/H31)
And remember, when the Left gets power again, they are going to need a whooooole fuckton of guns for the adventures they go on, here and abroad.
They'll be able to put an awful of lot of money/contract pressure on gun companies to simply stop selling to the private sector, period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:52 PM (vMDnu)
I've been saying this forever....guns won't be banned. However, it will be virtually impossible for anyone to make or sell them.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 05:49 PM (FiUMj)
Considering an old car antenna and a .22 pistol round works remarkably like a real pistol.
If guys in the 1500's can make guns, we can. They won't be much against modern weapons, so things will get, uh, even uglier than our worst fears.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:52 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Anon a mouse
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This idea isn't anything new. The financial and tech industry has been slowly but surely othering gun businesses for a few years. Beto or no Beto this shit is happening.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 05:52 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgie Peach at September 12, 2019 05:52 PM (ZqRa6)
This day almost started out halfway good. Now it's wobbling badly, and the Dem "debate" has yet to roll.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (13CQC)
The CEOs of 145 companies issued a new call for gun safety Thursday, sending a letter to members of the Senate on Thursday stating that it is "simply unacceptable" to do nothing about gun violence and mass shootings in the U.S.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (aKsyK)
Sort of like how it is nearly impossible to purchase narcotics and undocumented drugs.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:48 PM (lD3vL)
Heh. Excellent point.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (xosvL)
They don't love Beta, They HATED Ted Cruz.
They still hate Ted Cruz. They will always hate Ted Cruz.
Posted by: rd at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (+0uDE)
True, but that hate translated to monetary love and support for the asshole from El Paso.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (37IEG)
Well. That's out the window. And since corporations are being pushed to take a side, I don't think it's asking too much for Our Betters who claim to be on our side demand that our side be the one that's chosen.
Or as I keep saying about those who sneer at at least he fights about Trump are the same ones who appear to be clueless that we are in a war.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (GbPPJ)
Judging by how people response to every fresh outrage, probably not. Lots of grumbling but no backlash. Lots of outraged posts on social media, and braggadocio, but no action.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:46 PM (kQs4Y)
We deduct that from you autopay when you go away.
You'll never feel it.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (vMDnu)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (n8Jib)
Posted by: dagny at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (nRWPy)
What does that look like?
Government puts out a bid for "guns" and every manufacturer on planet earth wins a no-limit contract to box and ship everything in their inventory?
So the government warehouse will be receiving Cowboy Guns, race guns, shotguns, rifles and pistols in every single known caliber, finish and action?
yeah. right.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (13CQC)
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Is this the LGBTQ Town Hall one, or something else?
I'm losing track at this point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (n1yOz)
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (thQkh)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (Pg+x7)
The individual merchants can issue their own
credit cards. They need not use Bank Too Big To Fail, they can use a
local state bank and issue the card through them.
That's what the state banks are waiting for.
They've already talked about it in meetings.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:40 PM (vMDnu)
Individual merchants can do that. But it isn't the merchants who process/clear the credit card transactions. It is outfits like FiServ, PayPal, Intuit, and others. Don't think these organizations aren't in the tank with the left.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:55 PM (N39Ws)
Exactly.
And how do we respond now, that they've abandoned all semblance of it? What do we do, legally and socially? How do we respond?
And, to be fair, they never were truly 100% neutral, they leaned conservative: anti communist, anti perversion, trying to appeal to basic core rural Americana. Now they're trying to appeal to basic radial leftist Urbans.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:55 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:55 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 12, 2019 05:55 PM (Pg+x7)
The CEOs of 145 companies issued a new call for
gun safety Thursday, sending a letter to members of the Senate on
Thursday stating that it is "simply unacceptable" to do nothing about
gun violence and mass shootings in the U.S.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (aKsyK)
I view that shit in the same way I view the 'millions' of 'climate scientists' who have consensus on Global Warming.
I was a 'CEO' for about 6 years of my own 2 person company, and half the programmers I've known who work for banks have the title "Vice President".
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (V0kCx)
are going to need a whooooole fuckton of guns for the adventures they go
on, here and abroad.
They'll be able to put an awful of lot of money/contract pressure on
gun companies to simply stop selling to the private sector, period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (AzW6q
And that shit will be enforced by your friendly local law enforcement - as all the usual idiots stand around and post "Why, I didn't see that coming".
Of course - they'll have that idiot look on their faces while they get dragged out of their cars and homes. Incredulous, probably. That FOP sticker won't count for much in the camps, I bet.
I kinda' want to shelter in place for a few days - just to watch and laugh.
Posted by: Yeah at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (TxM3A)
Beto's "fresh" idea is as fresh and new as sliced bread.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (FiUMj)
He's also not dropping out to run against Cornyn.
There's a reason for that.
Posted by: Ha at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (HJ38S)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (oVJmc)
Its OK for OTHER people to do so? Shouldn't our Government, that is built upon those ideals, also be protecting us from OTHER people taking those rights?
Posted by: Don Q at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (H8QX8)
Here's the problem: this is extraconstitutional. He's not calling for the government to do ANYTHING. He's calling for private businesses to enforce the left's social mores and radical schemes. This is just another part of the effort to just bypass the law and the constitution by doing it privately.
Can't repeal the 2nd amendment? Well just have banks shut down all gun stores and get businesses to stop selling guns.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (KZzsI)
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#twoweeks
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (flINI)
Judging by how people response to every fresh outrage, probably not. Lots of grumbling but no backlash. Lots of outraged posts on social media, and braggadocio, but no action.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (KZzsI)
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Doesn't matter how we respond.
If we fight back, they'll need the guns to stop us.
If we don't, they'll need them to keep us down.
Remember, the Leftist plan is always a tyrannical, violent, all-guns-and-no-butter superstate that engages in mass murder at home, while implementing a foreign policy of wanton aggression for territorial aggrandizement abroad, to refill constantly empty coffers.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (AzW6q)
Who will be the first Democrat to call for mandatory gayness?
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 12, 2019 05:54 PM (n1yOz)
I'm a lesbian. I love women. Oh, never mind that little dangly thing between my legs (irish curse).
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgie Peach at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (ZqRa6)
You really should read Beta's new book about his policies,
"The Avocadoing of America"
Posted by: naturalfake at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (n8Jib)
I bet it's shitty.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (37IEG)
Actually it didn't.
He received $60,000.00 in monetary love from Soros. The most ever in a senatorial campaign. iirc.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (vMDnu)
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (nFwvY)
They'll be able to put an awful of lot of money/contract pressure on gun companies to simply stop selling to the private sector, period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (AzW6q)
Good thing I remember where I had that unfortunate boating accident. Will have to do some salvaging.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (xosvL)
sending a letter to members of the Senate on Thursday stating that it is
"simply unacceptable" to do nothing about gun violence and mass
shootings in the U.S.
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Do you hear us? We bought and own you.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (MIKMs)
Rhetorically.
I'd never have a commie suck my dick. Or a socialist. Or a guy. Or a guy who identifies an a woman.
There's a lot more conditions, but I don't have the time nor inclination to go into them.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (3H9h1)
corporate freedom is more important than personal freedom, because, Iguess, corporations cut fatter checks to the "conservative" advocacyorganizations?
Posted by: Ace Your Jerkstore Customer Service Representative at September 12, 2019 05:30 PM (PbpT7)
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Who are we? We are nobody.
The GOP noticed that the DNC figured out they could insource their voting to foreigners, why can't they?
America 2019 is basically a different country than the one we grew up in.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 05:57 PM (thQkh)
Actually I brought it up but its worth repeating. The only question is (if by some miracle this goes to trial) the DOJ prosecutors act on that truth or just keep it in DC so they can be sure to lose.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:58 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2019 05:58 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2019 05:58 PM (ZCEU2)
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The list of 145 includes CEOs of Uber, Lyft, The Gap, Levi's, Beyond Meat, Dicks (no surprise there).
It's not 145 ceos of 2 man companies.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 05:58 PM (FiUMj)
What's the deal with that? Why is that statute worded the way it is yet not enforced? We didn't used to have this problem before, why do we have it now? Why isn't it illegal to restrict someone's Constitutional rights, in this case, to own firearms?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 12, 2019 05:59 PM (HaL55)
gun safety Thursday, sending a letter to members of the Senate on Thursday stating that it is "simply unacceptable" to do nothing about gun violence and mass shootings in the U.S.
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exhibit A in any lawsuit about bad working environments against corporate American traitors.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 05:59 PM (thQkh)
Posted by: Marooned at September 12, 2019 05:59 PM (8hRlF)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 12, 2019 05:59 PM (n1yOz)
Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 12, 2019 05:59 PM (l/6vt)
Is this the LGBTQ Town Hall one, or something else?
I'm losing track at this point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Oh, it's anyone's guess what this one is about. I've been listening to CNN today (hoping for a quip about the fate of McCabe) and they're all wondering if impeachment will come up.
I hope it does and every one of them raises their hand in favor, although I've also heard rumblings that there will be no more embarrassing "traps" like this.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (13CQC)
It's going to trial. And this is only the beginning.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (ZLI7S)
sending a letter to members of the Senate on Thursday stating that it is
"simply unacceptable" to do nothing about gun violence and mass
shootings in the U.S.
The last list of 'CEO's they trotted out were little more than rinky-dink cottage industries and offices of lefty douchebags.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (oVJmc)
And other people just go ahead and inflate their title on anonymous poll web forms.
Usually for scoring, its a drop down box of a rather limited list of titles that are used in their analytics schema.
Ooops! instead of selecting "Assistant Minion to the Flunky" I clicked "CEO".
Oh well. What is the penalty other than some anonymous computer will think of me more highly?
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (lD3vL)
the government to do ANYTHING. He's calling for private businesses to
enforce the left's social mores and radical schemes. This is just
another part of the effort to just bypass the law and the constitution
by doing it privately.
You are absolutely wrong. What you just described is a conspiracy to oppress a Constitutional right. Violation of 18 U.S. Code 241. Also it is a Conspiracy in restraint of trade which is a felony violation of 15 U.S. Code 1.
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (V0kCx)
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that right wing enemies list is getting larger and larger. Retail is dead though. There's literally nothing we can do to punish them. Shit. American conservatives can't even get out a message.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (thQkh)
They still hate Ted Cruz. They will always hate Ted Cruz.
Posted by: rd at September 12, 2019 05:51 PM (+0uDE)
Yup. And in the nation-wide Dem candidates race, the college kids, the aging hippies, and the crazy cat ladies have other people to choose from. I can't remember if Beto had any serious competition for the 2018 Dem candidacy for the Texas Senate race. But I don't think so.
Posted by: Gref at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (AMIL/)
"American sells $150 billion in real estate to foreigners every single year. Likewise, foreigners have bought up roughly 38 percent of all American corporate shares and 44 percent of our national public debt. In exchange, we got Halloween masks and saved a few bucks on our iPhones. We sold our souls for foreign luxuries."
Sure Japan invested in US real estate and got burned decades back, I'm not so sure China is the same deal. They certainly have their issues, but Most countries have people more loyal to their own nation that we do. We run deficits and WallStreet loves it ... "yes, more debt for you please".
Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (37IEG)
Need a link.
Those few shown are all dick suckers in the first place.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (vMDnu)
All they have to do is wait until the nominee is anointed and they swivel to sound moderate. Then they won't sound so goofy and the NT can pretend they are the sane, mature choice compared to crazy out of control Orange Man who is Bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (KZzsI)
A tyrant, too, but via Fascism. He's coordinated government operations with capitalistic monopolies to impose rule. He's outsourcing his brownshirting to white-collars who, to remain in government good graces, will oppress citizens by proxy.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (6eEQ+)
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Dayum, is Sessions back at the WH and instructing the President on the evils of the 'devil weed'?
What a waste of time.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (MIKMs)
Its worse than just guns.
Friend of mine makes swords for historic reenacting.
His paypal account was frozen, and his QuickBooks account as well. He spent MONTHS just getting his money from those accounts.
Why? SWORDS?
Posted by: Don Q at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (NgKpN)
Bloomberg
AirBnb
Nextdoor
Conde Nast
CreditKarma
DoorDash
Bain (Romney's old stoping grounds)
Royal Caribbean Cruises
Yelp
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (FiUMj)
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (V0kCx)
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Actually I brought it up but its worth repeating. The only question is (if by some miracle this goes to trial) the DOJ prosecutors act on that truth or just keep it in DC so they can be sure to lose.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Has it ever been done before?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (13CQC)
That's legal, how, exactly? I still haven't found that clause in any of the Constitutional rights that says, "except for businesses."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (sy5kK)
14
Do the liberals really want to turn the entire gun industry into an
untraceable cash-only industry, like marijuana? Do they even try to
understand the consequences of their policies anymore?
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 12, 2019 05:05 PM (ju9gW)"
....No, they intend to turn it into something more akin to .gov contract-only like military aerospace, after driving most of the small companies out of business and making examples out of a bunch of us (read: killing us and our families) as part of the overall disarmament.
Let's get serious here. People are wasting way too much time, ink, and air discussing immediate policy consequences that are wholly irrelevant to what the left is aiming for. You're not going to get anywhere taking their bad faith arguments at face value.
This is like arguing with the mugger about whether or not you have a light on you. It doesn't matter. They're mugging you.
Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (eAshZ)
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the USA has found it can sell American citizenship as well. Chinese "entrepreneurs" can get family citizenship if they agree to fund $500,000 in biz here. uh huh.
The country is run, has been run, and will be run by folks who fucking hate the old population of this country.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (thQkh)
There is an upside though.
The Dems message is so repulsive, normal people are LOOKING for alternatives. I spoke to my godfather today, who is a democrat, and he said the only way that he will even consider watching the Dem debate is if every other channel on his tv goes out and if he gets bored looking out the window.
Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (l/6vt)
Are they ever. Why don't they go back to Donald Duck?!
Posted by: Goofy at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (6eEQ+)
Lovely.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (FiUMj)
Can't repeal the 2nd amendment? Well just have banks shut down all gun stores and get businesses to stop selling guns.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM (KZzsI)
And this is where capitalism steps in. Some small bank is going to see that big ol' cash cow out there with no financing, and guess what's going to happen.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (xosvL)
Friend of mine makes swords for historic reenacting.
His paypal account was frozen, and his QuickBooks account as well. He spent MONTHS just getting his money from those accounts.
Why? SWORDS?
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sue these motherfuckers. for fucks sake.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (thQkh)
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (thQkh)
Wifey is upset at the half dozen people who died from vaping crap into their lungs. A lot of bad policy that presidents com up with can be traced to the wife, to be honest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (KZzsI)
The left were rabidly against big business but are now in bed with them.
The simple answer is fascism which by definition leaves big business in private hands but tells it what to do. The only anomaly is that the media and the aspiring government, or the shadow government, are in the driving seat.
Posted by: Decaf at September 12, 2019 06:04 PM (xarPm)
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you may notice that Obama regulated small banks out of existence.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:04 PM (thQkh)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 12, 2019 06:04 PM (NugC9)
You're not gonna like the answer.
It's "shut up, that's why"
Pointing out that civil rights only exist as far as they can be enforced by the affected population is like, totally rayciss, man.
Or something.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 12, 2019 06:04 PM (6qErC)
They get crushed by big bank and by businesses who won't do anything with them. We're past the point where capitalism works because cronyism has given the big corps so much power and influence.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (KZzsI)
fuck quicken and rocket mortgage too then. don't use em.
Posted by: x at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (thQkh)"
..Courts will tell you nobody has standing for anything.
We're past talk, this is the quiet period before the colanders come out.
Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (eAshZ)
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#twoweeks
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 12, 2019 05:56 PM
Steiner will come.
Posted by: You Know Who at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (w8LS5)
Posted by: ScoggDog at September 12, 2019 05:39 PM (b1l+6)
Wait!
Wut?
The return of ScoggDog!
Hurray!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (sy5kK)
a conspiracy to oppress a Constitutional right. Violation of 18 U.S.
Code 241. Also it is a Conspiracy in restraint of trade which is a
felony violation of 15 U.S. Code 1.
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 06:00 PM (V0kCx)
Speaking of...
OK, what's the deal with this? I don't believe that what these businesses are trying to do is legal in any way.
Is this true or not? I'd really like a solid, legally sound and accurate answer one way or the other.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 12, 2019 06:07 PM (HaL55)
gun safety Thursday, sending a letter to members of the Senate on
Thursday stating that it is "simply unacceptable" to do nothing about
gun violence and mass shootings in the U.S.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2019 05:53 PM (aKsyK)
Fine,
Any business that posts "no guns" must provide armed security, at least per door.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2019 06:08 PM (1g7ch)
He can sue them under 15 U.S. Code 15 for treble damages for their felony violation of 15 U.S. Code 1's prohibition of conspiracies in restraint of trade.
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 06:08 PM (V0kCx)
sue these motherfuckers. for fucks sake.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 12, 2019 06:03 PM (thQkh)
Problem is we are talking about a small time single owner.
Less than $10K in total. Even if he got 10X damages, it would still end up costing him more in legal fees than he would get.
Games rigged.
Posted by: Don Q at September 12, 2019 06:09 PM (NgKpN)
Magnetic north is racing toward Siberia. _fact
There is solid theory that our magnetic poles have shifted more than once and it is beginning to happen again.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 06:09 PM (vMDnu)
Need a link.
Those few shown are all dick suckers in the first place.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 06:01 PM (vMDnu)
I live here - they were constantly boasting how he wasn't taking PAC money - well, except for all his trips to California for contributions. Guy raised $79 million -
I'm sure that was mostly from Texas. Uh huh.
https://tinyurl.com/y6gajtwl$43 million dollars from large individual contributors.
Click on the entertaining "help the numbers don't add up" link they provide.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 06:09 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 06:11 PM (V0kCx)
This is the sort of vapid observation one makes when you accept the language of The Enemy.
Conservatives are for free markets, if that is achieved with corporations, partnerships, single-proprietorship, co-ops, communes or ad hoc garage sales and lemonaid stands, commerce with the minimum government oversight and influence has been the ideal.
What you are missing is the adage "every great cause starts as a movement, becomes a business and ends up a racket."
There is a book titled "From Barbarians to Bureaucrats" that is a good read on how a great idea transforms over time and with success from starting with a visionary to eventually being run by an Aristocracy.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 06:12 PM (lD3vL)
Can't repeal the 2nd amendment? Well just have banks shut down all gun stores and get businesses to stop selling guns.
That's
legal, how, exactly? I still haven't found that clause in any of the
Constitutional rights that says, "except for businesses."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 12, 2019 06:02 PM (HaL55)
But if one of the current Dem candidates wins next year, he/she will pressure the banks, credit card companies, and credit card processors, hard. The CEO's will be visited by DoJ lawyers, saying, "Nice corporation you've got here. It would be a shame if something happened that hurt profits, like a dozen Federal lawsuits for things from OSHA violations to price-fixing conspiracies."
Posted by: Gref at September 12, 2019 06:12 PM (AMIL/)
That "solid theory" is actually "unsubstantiated bullshit".
Science requires observations that can be repeated and observed. An explanation only needs an active imagination.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 06:14 PM (lD3vL)
Need a link.
Those few shown are all dick suckers in the first place.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer
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-Guy raised $79 million -
I'm sure that was mostly from Texas. Uh huh.
https://tinyurl.com/y6gajtwl
Posted by: DamnedYankee at September 12, 2019 06:09 PM (37IEG)
Dick sucker link for the 150 antigun commie cos.
BetaPuke received $60,000.00 from Soros.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 06:15 PM (vMDnu)
No. The corporations would have to pay his legal fees too. In addition file a criminal complaint with the U.S. Attorney for their violation of 15 U.S. Code 1 - which carries a fine of one hundred million dollars for violation, and apply for a cut of the fine as a reward. Also report them to the IRS for their ill gotten gains, and ask for a finder's fee on that.
Posted by: An Observation at September 12, 2019 06:17 PM (V0kCx)
That "solid theory" is actually "unsubstantiated bullshit".
Science requires observations that can be repeated and observed. An explanation only needs an active imagination.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at September 12, 2019 06:14 PM (lD3vL)
I said theory not observation. A theory by the word is not an observation.
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 06:18 PM (vMDnu)
https://tinyurl.com/y36d5b8n
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y36d5b8n
How Stuff Works:
https://tinyurl.com/y6hdkub4
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6hdkub4
Posted by: Frosty Imperialist - imperialism is the answer at September 12, 2019 06:24 PM (vMDnu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 12, 2019 06:05 PM (KZzsI)
Not in a conservative state like Oklahoma. I guess it's different here than where you live.
Posted by: Sooner at September 12, 2019 06:26 PM (xosvL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 12, 2019 06:28 PM (pkvuH)
Because banks are special?
Posted by: harbqll at September 12, 2019 06:55 PM (hMuFb)
Posted by: Richard at September 12, 2019 06:57 PM (huaUe)
Posted by: Quilp at September 12, 2019 07:22 PM (Bf3hj)
A coworker suggested that yes, China was a totalitarian system, but they
prohibit gun ownership and hey presto they don't have the mass killings
we have. Maybe they're on to something? *shrugs*
I was going to bring up the prevalence of mass stabbings, and that
maybe mass incarcerations in Xinjiang and the police thuggery in Hong
Kong ought to dampen her enthusiasm for guns only in the hands of the
government, but I didn't feel like getting into it in the break room.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 12, 2019 05:34 PM (kQs4Y)
She forgot about the part where they fucking murdered 70 million of their own citizens. For crying out loud!
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at September 12, 2019 09:04 PM (T6OXT)
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