Trump Administration Releases New Rule That Makes It Easier for the Government to Reject Green Card Requests

It's based on whether you'll be a net drain on the country's resources, so obviously this is both irrational and racist.

The Trump administration on Monday released the final version of a controversial rule that dramatically increases the government's ability to reject green cards for people who are deemed likely to depend on government aid such as food stamps, housing assistance and Medicaid.
The new "public charge" rule would link a subject's immigration status to their income and their use of certain public programs.
Published in the Federal Register, the rule will officially be released Wednesday and go into effect 60 days later.

Ken Cuccinelli, the acting director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, announced the rule at a press briefing at the White House on Monday morning.
The administration has portrayed the rule as a way to promote sufficiency and independence among immigrants.
"We certainly expect people of any income to be able to stand on their own two feet," Cuccinelli said. "A poor person can prepare to be self-sufficient... so let's not look at that as the be all end all."

Self-sufficient? Standing on one's own two feet?!

All those words are missing is a white hood and a noose.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:36 PM

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1 This was the norm in immigration law for the majority of our history.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

2 This is, obviously, 'Not Who We Are'.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:41 PM (NE8ji)

3 yo

Posted by: HA at August 12, 2019 06:41 PM (MAstk)

4 So in other words, reverting to immigration policy that was in place when the last of my family came over from Italy in the 50s

Clearly racist

Posted by: DocJ at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM (DU2N9)

5 He really is using that laser-pointer on the Left, isn't he?

IIRC, this was something CLINTON signed into law, and Doltbama just ignored (add it to the list of Bammy's impeachable offenses).

What will the Left do now?

I mean other than scream like babies on changing tables?

Posted by: acethepug at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM (zHVcO)

6 Published in the Federal Register, the rule will officially be released Wednesday and go into effect 60 days later.
++++++++++
Don't bet on it!

Posted by: Hawaii Judge at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM (I2dne)

7

We're gonna need another Trump.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM (vEIlU)

8 Thought the new wording was from a Clinton policy, but if I am wrong, so be it. The point on Doltbama stands

Posted by: acethepug at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM (zHVcO)

9 Hawaiin Donkey Punch in 3
...
2
...

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:43 PM (NE8ji)

10 It's controversial in NYC, LA and SF.

Posted by: HA at August 12, 2019 06:43 PM (MAstk)

11 Immigrants are just as self sufficient as white people!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (jp0Bv)

12 They would send people back from Ellis Island if they didn't have any means of support of their own.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (oVJmc)

13 Is Ilhan Omar a drain?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (AWqtp)

14 How is what Trump is doing controversial? Oh, yeah Orange Man Bad. Right.

Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (gmo/4)

15
This is, obviously, 'Not Who We Are'.
Posted by: garrett

But it's damn well who we should be.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (aKsyK)

16 They have to agree to buy a My Pillow then they're in.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (O5bec)

17 Great news but why wasn't it done 3 years ago.

Posted by: James at August 12, 2019 06:45 PM (DWCq/)

18

Fake News says this will mostly impact Mexicans.

Well, no fking chit!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:45 PM (dv098)

19 You know who else was not missing a white sheet and a noose?

Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2019 06:45 PM (tH5fk)

20 Ahem!

Posted by: Random Hawaiian Judge at August 12, 2019 06:45 PM (gAXBD)

21 Hot girls ages 12-17 can still come in.

Posted by: Effery Jeppstein, new Director of Immigration Policy at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (oVJmc)

22 So, a green card is supposed to for working and not freebies? I'm confused.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (iuogb)

23 12 They would send people back from Ellis Island if they didn't have any means of support of their own.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (oVJmc)

Yeah, but that was like 100 years ago. Today, standing on your own two feet is un-American somehow.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (sdi6R)

24 They also quarantined or shipped back immigrants who had diseases.

That thing called Common Sense prevailed back them is like garlic to Leftists.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (AWqtp)

25
Getting by on crumbs and scraps for 18 months. And I'm lonely. Why, I remember when I was the king, feted and entertained, I had my pick of assholes. Now, just that one night SS agent... how the mighty have fallen...

Posted by: Obama's Gerbil at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (UFLLM)

26 to be for

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (iuogb)

27 Ellis Island in the 1920's required proof that you had at least $50 (I think) to your name to get into the United States.

Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (gmo/4)

28 It is interesting to see how far down the rabbit hole things have gotten.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (gmtFW)

29 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Refugee from Liechtenstein at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (gAXBD)

30
Hot girls ages 12-17 can still come in.
Posted by: Effery Jeppstein, new Director of Immigration Policy

Are you wearing one of those pairs of glasses with the nose and mustache?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (aKsyK)

31
Informercial montage (first world problems)

"the struggle is real"

Indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM4zMofsI7w

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (dv098)

32 1 This was the norm in immigration law for the majority of our history.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

Belief in only 2 genders was the norm for, well, ALL of our history.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (Kpl3J)

33 These rules are the norm today in some places I travel to. Thailand wanted a letter of invitation from the company I was to work for, proof that I had lodging, proof that I could pay for medical care, and a paid round trip ticket that showed an intent to leave when I was done. Changes in plans were acceptable - but they wanted something in good faith.

So does Colombia, of all places, where I'm going this weekend to make some money for ten days. Legal money. I'm glad to have the opportunity.

It's not an imposition. I'm there at their leisure, making and spending money. And their rules are plain enough to learn ... several agencies like TraVISA make a living navigating you through this - for a fee that, again, is part of the cost of doing business.
This is not in the least bit unreasonable. It should be standard everywhere.

Posted by: History Rhymes at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (P8Oeq)

34 I've been Carded....... I'm Irish so is it a Green Cardhu or a rotten potato.....help call my lawyer,how do I gets to Ellis Island,does it have snakes,poteen,shitty whiskey and Molly Hormones, aaah just like the aul sod that abused me at University,but I got a first in Ancient Greek!!! New SOD just like the olde SOD.

Posted by: saf at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (5IHGB)

35 yup, this is proof that white supremacy is ascendant ... wait till they find out about a border wall to keep ILLEGAL ALIENS out. Not admitting one's white European ancestors are evil is the same as white supremacy.*

*unless you are Mexican descended from Spain kind of white European, then you actually are supreme, and you are allowed to run a cartel and kill Mexican Indians. /s

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (Cus5s)

36 Exactly as it should be.
Bonus that it pushes them back into the shadows.

You're here illegally, you should be scared of getting caught. Go home and apply legally.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (bDqIh)

37 "Self-sufficient" is just another white privilege, race-baiting, nazi dog whistle term attacking all minorities, except Asians, because they have Tiger Moms.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (sy5kK)

38 Great news but why wasn't it done 3 years ago.

Posted by: James at August 12, 2019 06:45 PM (DWCq/)

Deep State inertia amplified by hatred of an independent outsider perturbing the apple cart!!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (BiNEL)

39
Why did Joe shoot his old lady?

Be precise.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (dv098)

40 Weren't these the laws when Bill Clinton was President?

Posted by: rd at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (EK+Pw)

41 About time.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (LpklP)

42 Ellis Island in the 1920's required proof that you had at least $50 (I think) to your name to get into the United States.
Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (gmo/4)
+++++++++
Ellis Island was a fairly effective system, and quite open. I don't remember all of the rules, but it was pretty straightforward. To enter, you had to:
- Have a few dollars in your pocket
- Know someone who is here who can help you
- Not be diseased
- Disclose your name and country of origin

That is a pretty minimal standard, and it was a way higher standard than we have now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (I2dne)

43 We need to add a fee for green cards.

I'd say around $250,000.00 per card sounds about right.

No payee, no get innie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (Z+IKu)

44 I assume Democrats will counter by trying to remove residency requirements for social programs. We'll just send checks to everyone in the world every month.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (jp0Bv)

45 Get your ass to Mars.

Posted by: Archer at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (gmo/4)

46 RACIST!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (p0A33)

47 29 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Refugee from Liechtenstein at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (gAXBD)

They come here, in their ones and twos, looking for... cheese? Sausage? Beer?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (gmtFW)

48 >>I'd say around $250,000.00 per card sounds about right.

Student Visas, too.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (NE8ji)

49
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson
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the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (KCxzN)

50 Great new rule but how will play in Hawaii?

Posted by: Imitation Commentater at August 12, 2019 06:49 PM (vqIkG)

51 Well remember until Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, "feet dry" meant a Cuban could stay in the US.

What ever has happened to Elian Gonzalez?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (AWqtp)

52 Ellis Island was a fairly effective system, and quite open. I don't remember all of the rules, but it was pretty straightforward. To enter, you had to:
- Have a few dollars in your pocket
- Know someone who is here who can help you
- Not be diseased
- Disclose your name and country of origin

That is a pretty minimal standard, and it was a way higher standard than we have now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (I2dne)

Chain migration pretty much made #2 redundant, at least in theory.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (NFEMn)

53 They should limit the immigrants to only hot chicks under the age of 30.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (YA914)

54 Even before there were any real immigration laws, there were always two grounds to be sent back:

Contagious disease
Likely to become a public charge

Posted by: Miklos, with personal knowledge (and that's knowledge with a "d") at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (QzkSJ)

55 Why did Joe shoot his old lady?

Be precise.

Caught her messin round.

Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (tH5fk)

56 No one does the nood thing anymore?

Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (cF8AT)

57 Hello Alton!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (dUJdY)

58 24 They also quarantined or shipped back immigrants who had diseases.

That thing called Common Sense prevailed back them is like garlic to Leftists.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:46 PM (AWqtp)\

OMG, the HATE! the HATE!

- Every Democrat public official and Prez candidate

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (sy5kK)

59 They should limit the immigrants to only hot chicks under the age of 30.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (YA914)

I think they already have that. It is called Russian Mail Order Brides.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (p0A33)

60 All of the assholes running for president from the Democrat Party are for open borders, so of course they are opposed to this.

By the way, open borders means Mexico is a part of the United States, for people in Baltimore.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (gAXBD)

61 I have a friend from Mexico who was subject to these stringent criteria. It was about 25 years ago.

Posted by: huerfano at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (6e1eX)

62 No more getting in the 10 items or less line with 5 things, behind someone who doesn't speak english with a cart over flowing with steaks? Those poor, poor people. Fvck them.

Posted by: dartist at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (K22Va)

63
Caught her messin round.

Posted by: eleven

Yeah, messin 'round, down town.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (dv098)

64 32 1 This was the norm in immigration law for the majority of our history.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

Belief in only 2 genders was the norm for, well, ALL of our history.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM (Kpl3J)

---

Marriage is one man and one woman. (Even if you are Mormon.)

Posted by: rd at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (EK+Pw)

65 Back to what used to be the norm, huh? Good!

Oh, and finally figured out why "Ghislaine" (in the Epstein story) sounded so familiar. "Gharlane of Eddore!"

Posted by: Empire1 at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (uTLF9)

66 The Cucc on WMAL and said that it's not a new rule, it's just an unenforced rule. They're going to enforce it.

Posted by: dagny at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (nRWPy)

67 >>They should limit the immigrants to only hot chicks under the age of 30.

With Birthin' Hips.

... and a Displayed Mastery of at least 3 Recipes from their Homeland.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (NE8ji)

68 Why did Joe shoot his old lady?

Be precise.

Jill was making noise at the back door!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (oVJmc)

69 56 No one does the nood thing anymore?
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (cF8AT)

somebody did the NOOD thing, or close enough. Otherwise I wouldn't be here.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (sy5kK)

70 Tami, I think Sooth called nood in the thread below.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (dUJdY)

71
... and a Displayed Mastery of at least 3 Recipes from their Homeland.

Unless they're Brits.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (oVJmc)

72
No one does the nood thing anymore?

I, who happen to be Creator Of The "Nood" Alert, nooded.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (dv098)

73 NYET!!

Posted by: Juan "El Tax" Robertos at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (FiUMj)

74 56 No one does the nood thing anymore?

Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2019 06:50

Nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 06:53 PM (iuogb)

75 Yeah no British recipes, no spotted Spam dick please.

*thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:53 PM (AWqtp)

76

Hey punk, where you goin' with that button on your shirt?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 06:53 PM (aKsyK)

77 It is called Russian Mail Order Brides.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2019 06:51 PM (p0A33)

Do you have the URL for the catalog?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 06:53 PM (BiNEL)

78 >>They should limit the immigrants to only hot chicks under the age of 30.

With Birthin' Hips.

... and a Displayed Mastery of at least 3 Recipes from their Homeland.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:52 PM (NE8ji)

.....

Yeah.

And they should all have to have an older male sponsor in order to remain in the country.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 06:53 PM (YA914)

79 >>Yeah no British recipes

Fine. But I'll have to sponsor Nigella, I guess.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (NE8ji)

80 It's a start.

Because he caught her messing around with another man

And that ain't to cool

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (BbGew)

81 Fun Fact - you know how much it costs to buy a temp insurance policy that passes scrutiny in all these "restrictive countries" ?

Cost me about a $100 for ten days. Ten bucks a fucking day.

Again - I don't think it's an unreasonable request. And if I did - I guess I could stay my ass at home.

Posted by: History Rhymes at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (P8Oeq)

82 It's still Monday afternoon in Hawaiian courts.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (sy5kK)

83 39
Why did Joe shoot his old lady?

Be precise.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:48 PM (dv09

He caught her messing around with another man.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (sdi6R)

84 love it!

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (gOcqq)

85 How about this?

I will accept *nearly* open borders with a small list of requirements:
- The border is not open to those with diseases
- The border is not open to those with
- The border is not open to known terrorists and those with known violent crime in their past
- The border is not open to known active gang members
- No government services are offered in any language other than English
- There are no government transfer payments to individuals or businesses

A fairly open border is fairly low risk if you don't have a welfare state and a government that kowtows to non-citizens.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (I2dne)

86 This is all fine and good. But the bureaucracy is who enforces these rules, not Trump or Cucinelli. And the bureaucracy will probably roll their eyes at the new rule and continue rubber stamping every green card application as they have for decades.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (FiUMj)

87 38 Great news but why wasn't it done 3 years ago.

Posted by: James at August 12, 2019 06:45 PM (DWCq/)

Do you remember all the rules that were imposed "without due deliberation" (like the census questions) that were thrown out by the Courts because Trump didn't do them "the right way"??? (never mind that Obama could write a rule on the back of a napkin one night and it would be "Law" by the next morning)

Well, Doing it the Right Way means you have to Stand on one foot and hop between 25 different people in Washington and ask them all what they think, and then you have to put it in writing, and fill out a TPS report on each one, and you know if you leave the Cover Sheet off the TPS report well then you just gotta start over from scratch.

So it looks like this rule change was done the way that John Roberts said it has to be done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (Kpl3J)

88 I'd say around $250,000.00 per card sounds about right.

Hungary charged Euro 300,000 (about $330,000)

Corrupt government friends got most of it.

Posted by: Miklos, with additional personal knowledge (and that's knowledge with a at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (QzkSJ)

89 We're gonna need another Trump.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM

Anyone using that as their 2024 campaign, deserves a look.

Posted by: Hands at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (786Ro)

90 A thousand pardons, Sooth. You did...I missed it.

And don't go back to that thread....argument brewing.

Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (cF8AT)

91 This is pretty much too little too late, roughly 55 years too late.

Our immigration policy was altered irrevocably by the '65 immigration overhaul.

Which made diminishment of the white majority official US policy.

Essentially the only people who can immigrate to the US are people from third world countries and the family members of previous third world immigrants.

If you live in a first world country you are essentially barred from immigrating to the US as less than 10 pct of slots go to anyone from a first world country.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (HKEA4)

92
In case you missed it, here's the original version of Hey Joe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PziiNzFWZog

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (dv098)

93 I could sense there was a nood.

Mostly by the complete absence of new comments.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (PHotS)

94 Apparently using a less-than sign nukes the rest of the line. Shouldn't be surprised. That was supposed to read "with less than $2,500 to their name"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (I2dne)

95 A fairly open border is fairly low risk if you don't have a welfare state and a government that kowtows to non-citizens.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

You and zombie Milton Friedman should get a beer.

Posted by: Miklos, and I'll buy at August 12, 2019 06:56 PM (QzkSJ)

96 >>Our immigration policy was altered irrevocably by the '65 immigration overhaul.

Ted Fucking Kennedy

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:56 PM (NE8ji)

97

And don't go back to that thread....argument brewing.

This is practically a neon sign telling me to go back to that thread!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:56 PM (dv098)

98 Two words: Czechoslovakian supermodels.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 06:56 PM (gAXBD)

99 'You Shall Not Pass!'

Posted by: Eromero at August 12, 2019 06:57 PM (UUkQp)

100 Do you have the URL for the catalog?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 12, 2019 06:53 PM (BiNEL)

RussianBrides.hot.nocook@BJ.com

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2019 06:57 PM (p0A33)

101 Perhaps Shaitan is ramming an Olds 88 u[ Teddy the Swimmer's bunghole

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:57 PM (AWqtp)

102
They're arguing about, get this, PILLOWS!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (dv098)

103 Fun Fact - Hey Joe is probably the easiest Hendrix song I ever learned.

He was a blues guy early on. His stuff was a ton of open chords and minor stuff played dirty.

Great song-writer. Could do so much with just a few notes and chords.

Posted by: History Rhymes at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (P8Oeq)

104 I sure hope this is OK with Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and Rear Admiral Bill.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (BRpqW)

105
There is literally a Pillow Fight going on in the thread below.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (dv098)

106 Pillows?

Try the Sham-Wow headgear of Ilhan Omar...

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (AWqtp)

107 They also quarantined or shipped back immigrants who had diseases.

To get her green card my wife had to return to the American Embassy in Europe to be checked for TB etc. and we'd been married for some time before coming to the U.S.

But if you just skulk across the border illegally carrying bubonic plague, Ebola virus, TB, and typhus and having no ties here or visible means of support, no problem. Come on in! The welfare office is down the block and on the right!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (YqDXo)

108 >>There is literally a Pillow Fight going on in the thread below.

A My Pillow Fight

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 06:58 PM (NE8ji)

109 13
Is Ilhan Omar a drain?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (AWqtp)

Yes. Yes she is!

Posted by: Ilhan's Brother's Cock at August 12, 2019 06:59 PM (ufFY8)

110 >>They're arguing about, get this, PILLOWS!

Nah, "JAS" is calling Epstein's child sex slaves whores who were paid, so why are they wanting money now.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 06:59 PM (bDqIh)

111 They're arguing about, get this, PILLOWS!
Posted by: Soothsayer

lol

Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2019 06:59 PM (tH5fk)

112 Screw this - I'm going back to the thread where the argument is starting.

Posted by: History Rhymes at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (P8Oeq)

113 Obligatory:

Those aren't PILLOWS!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (xPJvm)

114 Too late if they made it to "Green Card Applicant".
Should be the test before they get on a plane.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (1g7ch)

115 Those aren't PILLOWS!
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (xPJvm)

LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (p0A33)

116 You had my interest.

Now you have my attention.

Posted by: Mike Lindell of MyPillow.com at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (gAXBD)

117 Dirty Pillows > My Pillows

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (NE8ji)

118 So is this the Abuse Thread then if the other is the Argument Thread?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (AWqtp)

119 It is interesting to see how far down the rabbit hole things have gotten.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 12, 2019 06:47 PM

**lights match to see**

Armageddon!!!

Posted by: Hands at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (786Ro)

120 >>But if you just skulk across the border illegally carrying bubonic plague, Ebola virus, TB, and typhus and having no ties here or visible means of support, no problem. Come on in! The welfare office is down the block and on the right!

IIRC, Obama loosened the rules by no longer requiring immigrants to be clear of AIDs and several other communicable diseases.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (bDqIh)

121 He really is using that laser-pointer on the Left, isn't he?

IIRC, this was something CLINTON signed into law, and Doltbama just
ignored (add it to the list of Bammy's impeachable offenses).

What will the Left do now?

I mean other than scream like babies on changing tables?

Posted by: acethepug at August 12, 2019 06:42 PM

---

Point of order....bush ignored it also.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (JUOKG)

122
Somebody joked about this the other night. But they are really are doing it.

The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349961

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (NMAzL)

123 If they ain't pillows, are they large tracts of land?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (AWqtp)

124 My theory is that if you flood the US with an influx of hot, nubile immigrant babes, you will be able to put downward pressure on the feminist movement.

Just as the mass influx of low-wage earners has put downward pressure on wage growth for unskilled labor position, an overabundance of Latino, Japanese, Scandinavian and Hungarian babes could flood the dating market, forcing domestic women to expect less out of American males, thus removing the need for men to cowtow to irrational feminists in order to obtain a meaningful relationship.

Such an immigration plan could break the feminist movement in perpetuity. Supply and demand.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (YA914)

125 Well, Doing it the Right Way means you have to Stand on one foot and hop between 25 different people in Washington and ask them all what they think, and then you have to put it in writing, and fill out a TPS report on each one, and you know if you leave the Cover Sheet off the TPS report well then you just gotta start over from scratch.

So it looks like this rule change was done the way that John Roberts said it has to be done.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (Kpl3J)

____

Upon further review, it appears you have to hop in between 26, not 25 people. Sorry.

APPLICATION DENIED!!

Posted by: Juan "El Tax" Robertos at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (FiUMj)

126 Dave is right, if in a normal comment span your 1 in 20, and find your 1 in 3 there is a new thread

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (BbGew)

127 IIRC, Obama loosened the rules by no longer requiring immigrants to be clear of AIDs and several other communicable diseases.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 07:00 PM (bDqIh)

Yes. I'm sure Buttplug and the Fiercely Heterosexual Booker fully approved of waiving the AIDS-free requirement.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (YqDXo)

128
This was the norm in immigration law for the majority of our history.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

And for virtually nation on earth outside of the EU. Try emigrating to New Zealand without having a fat bank account or a high-paying job offer with contract in hand.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (LkGkk)

129 "We certainly expect people of any income to be able to stand on their own two feet,"

Come now - that's the sort of thing we don't even expect American citizens to do anymore. Immigrants should get issued scooters so they can zoom around Walmarts just like white people.

Posted by: I Have Questions at August 12, 2019 07:02 PM (BvNzB)

130 Arbitrary and capricious.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 12, 2019 07:02 PM (dNzKv)

131 We don't need no stinking green card, we just walk in , get a drivers license and we have it made

Posted by: Colin at August 12, 2019 07:02 PM (0/Kpy)

132 91 This is pretty much too little too late, roughly 55 years too late.

Our immigration policy was altered irrevocably by the '65 immigration overhaul.

Which made diminishment of the white majority official US policy.

Essentially the only people who can immigrate to the US are people from third world countries and the family members of previous third world immigrants.

If you live in a first world country you are essentially barred from immigrating to the US as less than 10 pct of slots go to anyone from a first world country.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (HKEA4)

Thank you Teddy Kennedy and LBJ, with a special thanks to the 1964 Goldwater landslide.

Posted by: rd at August 12, 2019 07:02 PM (EK+Pw)

133 END ANCHOR BABIES.

this is all just deck chairs on the Titanic until you do that.

Also, reassign all asylum seekers to comparable shit hole countries.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (JziUy)

134 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (1XAal)

135 My sons fiance is from Japan and has an MBA from Harvard. It would be much easier for her to sneak in as an MS13 Machete hit woman.

Posted by: Jeff Epstein at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (6/uwW)

136 Anyone else notice that the Squad has been rather quiet lately?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (gAXBD)

137 everyone should get some sort of voucher, 10 or 20 vouchers is enough to get someone citizen status. we could then have guys work together to use their vouchers to get some hot immigrants in, especially if they were willing to fuck for vouchers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (HALdu)

138 Somebody joked about this the other night. But they are really are doing it.

The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for
Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack
of funding:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349961

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM

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I didn't know that Trump was the one who approved spending bills. For some reason I always thought that Congress was charged with appropriating money. Silly me.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (JUOKG)

139 92
In case you missed it, here's the original version of Hey Joe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PziiNzFWZog

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (dv09

Apparently not, judging by the comments.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (sdi6R)

140
More photos are coming out of Epstein and Ghislane's Lolita at parties with the rich and famous:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7350257

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (NMAzL)

141
The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding

Those darn Trump tax cuts!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (aKsyK)

142 just got in conversation with person with no visible means of income or work, asking about health care. He apparently uses NYC's "illegals get eee-rrything for free-care" via a couple of lies and loopholes.

so, that's why folks pay 65% tax there.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (JziUy)

143 You mean before this they could welfare it?

Stoopid we is.........

Posted by: Yo! at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (1XAal)

144
Apparently not, judging by the comments.

Yeah, I noticed, but I don't know what to believe.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (dv098)

145 Anyone else notice that the Squad has been rather quiet lately?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (gAXBD)

*gaze slowly drifts up toward ventilation ducts*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (t+qrx)

146 I was going to say, isn't this already the law? Then I read the article (I know, I know, going against the Moron Way) and noticed that this rule is an attempt to out loophole the "Oh well food stamps, I mean SNAP, and Medicaid, and housing assistance aren't cash payments so those don't count!"

Hey, I've been screaming about the horrors of rule by er rules for decades and I lost that argument. Will To Power it is!

I do appreciate that whenever Trump does this, he makes sure to note that Congress can get in there and fix this any time. At least it's lip service to how the system should work.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (GbPPJ)

147 The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding

----

yup, the swamp and the public sector union swamp's go to excuse.

Just like "uh...bush cut some funding so that's why we had no guards at benghazi"

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (JziUy)

148 I've sponsored people, and these rules were in place, but they only apply to people who follow the rules people who sneak in ( no wall) don't get health checks or sponsored.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (lonOK)

149 since brofo and aoc have some big things going on right now the others have likely decided that shtting their big fat pieholes is a smart thing to do before nan torpedos them too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (HALdu)

150 The Trump administration on Monday released the final version of a controversial rule . . . .

"controversial" = we no likey

Posted by: The MSM at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (786Ro)

151

Hey Jose, where you goin' with that taco in your hand?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (aKsyK)

152 I try to avoid arguing with people that don't have a brain.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (dUJdY)

153 141
The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding

Those darn Trump tax cuts!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:03 PM (aKsyK)

Ah, those stalwart popos.... natural conservatives, they are......

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (90T4r)

154 How about this?

I will accept *nearly* open borders with a small list of requirements:
- The border is not open to those with diseases
- The border is not open to those with
- The border is not open to known terrorists and those with known violent crime in their past
- The border is not open to known active gang members
- No government services are offered in any language other than English
- There are no government transfer payments to individuals or businesses

A fairly open border is fairly low risk if you don't have a welfare state and a government that kowtows to non-citizens.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 06:54 PM (I2dne)

One more requirement: before you can leave the US to return home you have to be run through the law enforcement databases to make sure there's no warrant out for your arrest.

Half of the Mexicans in California commit various crimes - most often, drunk driving, but up to and including murder - and then bugger off back across the border until things cool down.

No dice, Jose.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (YqDXo)

155 Oops that's my son who is engaged to the Harvard MBA.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (6/uwW)

156 OT Epstein:

"Barr also vowed that authorities would to "get to the bottom of what happened," saying the case against Epstein was "very important to the Department of Justice and to me personally. Most importantly, this case was important to the victims "

See what he did there?

The "MOST important" thing is justice for E's victims.

The LESS important thing is finding out who murdered the most famous inmate in the USA, in the custody of the Fed Govt.

I never believed, and I never will believe, that 9/11 was an inside job.

I believe, and I will never not believe, that Epstein was murdered despite being "protected" by the Executive Branch of the US Govt.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (mk9aG)

157 >>Anyone else notice that the Squad has been rather quiet lately?

Mostly. AOC is still out there doing her thing, getting MSM coverage of every tweet and statement,

Think Omar is being quiet because she got caught fooling around in CA.

Will be interesting to see if it was Chakrabarti that was the force behind the squad, since he's been purged from his government post.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (bDqIh)

158 "Controversial" = Not good for Democrats.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (gAXBD)

159 Blue Checkmark Lawrence Tribe has really let the cheese slip off his stale cracker...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4y8smwq

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (AWqtp)

160 >>I don't know what to believe.

I believe Hey Joe is a tune that was likely sourced from numerous similar tunes. Lot of 'americana' type songs are this way. Then someone records it / performs it / popularizes it and that version becomes standardized.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (NE8ji)

161 152 I try to avoid arguing with people that don't have a brain.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 12, 2019 07:05 PM (dUJdY)

Never talk to scarecrows....

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (90T4r)

162 If government policy cannot expand the members of the Free Shit Army then I , for one, have no idea why we should continue to exist as a sovereign country.

Posted by: Voter theater. at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (LaORH)

163 Somebody joked about this the other night. But they are really are doing it.

The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349961

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 12, 2019 07:01

Yes. Heard this on the radio. Head of their union said they've been alerting the gubbimt for last 3 years about lack of staffing and employees being worked to death as they get paid OT. Said it's all current administrations fault.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (iuogb)

164 150 The Trump administration on Monday released the final version of a controversial rule . . . .

"controversial" = we no likey

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right...good catch.

Things are controversial if they offend trannies and other 1% fairytale creatures.

The biggest issue among native Western populations is immgration, so that's controversial.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (JziUy)

165 i always wash my pillows, and they're nice and fluffy.

can't stand down though...i leave those in the guest room or the camp trailer.

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (gOcqq)

166
My theory is that if you flood the US with an influx of hot, nubile immigrant babes, you will be able to put downward pressure on the feminist movement.

Just as the mass influx of low-wage earners has put downward pressure on wage growth for unskilled labor position, an overabundance of Latino, Japanese, Scandinavian and Hungarian babes could flood the dating market, forcing domestic women to expect less out of American males, thus removing the need for men to cowtow to irrational feminists in order to obtain a meaningful relationship.

Such an immigration plan could break the feminist movement in perpetuity. Supply and demand.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (YA914)

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 12, 2019 07:07 PM (LkGkk)

167 sort of like when NYC would try to control its budget and the garbage workers would go on strike until the voters wised up about who is in charge.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:07 PM (JziUy)

168 *waves to the Empress*

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:07 PM (AWqtp)

169 overworked=incompetent? or bribed?

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (JziUy)

170
163 Somebody joked about this the other night. But they are really are doing it.

The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349961

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 12, 2019 07:01

Yes. Heard this on the radio. Head of their union said they've been alerting the gubbimt for last 3 years about lack of staffing and employees being worked to death as they get paid OT. Said it's all current administrations fault.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (iuogb)

The operative word in all this is "union", olddog....

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (90T4r)

171 There are people here who do NOT call nood. They are greedy bastards who hoard comment places. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (O5bec)

172 Dave is right

I'm sorry, Dave s not always right. You need to trust me on this.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (UnTQ1)

173 142 just got in conversation with person with no visible means of income or work, asking about health care. He apparently uses NYC's "illegals get eee-rrything for free-care" via a couple of lies and loopholes.

so, that's why folks pay 65% tax there.
Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:04 PM (JziUy)

IIRC, illegal aliens get free tuition at the University of California. The children of lifelong California taxpayers do not; instead, their parents get the honor of paying for said illegal aliens to pursue degrees in Lawnmowing Studies.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (YqDXo)

174 Would the Swedish women's beach volleyball team qualify as "gainfully employed"?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (gAXBD)

175 Hi alex.... you doing well????

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (90T4r)

176 We have enough poor already. And more unemployed than show up in unemployment numbers, because they are comfortably numb on welfare, not seeking employment. (and I assume the 600 Kock Chicken workers were counted for employment numbers, but assumed to be citizens, so the unemployed Americans got replaced and not counted correctly)

US if fifth in the world at mean wealth at $404K average for an adult, but for the mean (middle) we are ranked 22 at $63K. That means a lot of millionaires and billionaires are getting richer as the average Joe goes to war and is mired in debt, but we have to do everything to save the stock market corporations so the rich get richer ... which means cheaper labor, more people coming in to be debt slaves. (or to sell drugs to keep the masses sedated)

Wikipedia link
https://tinyurl.com/yyyuxkjz

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (Cus5s)

177 Yes. Heard this on the radio. Head of their union said they've been alerting the gubbimt for last 3 years about lack of staffing and employees being worked to death as they get paid OT. Said it's all current administrations fault.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (iuogb)

The operative word in all this is "union", olddog....
Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (90T4r)

The head of the prison in question is a black woman. Do they really want to criticize how the place is run?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 12, 2019 07:09 PM (YqDXo)

178 Saw today

New green card rule favor the rich ...

Posted by: Yo! at August 12, 2019 07:09 PM (1XAal)

179 The arguing about the pillows is funny. Example (although it's not really arguing)

does it ever become your pillow?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 06:43 PM (O5bec)
+++++++++++
No. If you read the fine print, Mike Lindell can take it back anytime he pleases. If you refuse to comply, the Pillow Troopers raid your house and forcibly recover it.

It's more of a long-term lease.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 12, 2019 06:44 PM (I2dne)

It's the arguing about whether Epstein's girls were trafficked or not that is reminiscent of previous argument and the "Little who*** were already paid" is distressing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2019 07:10 PM (+0VWg)

180 Jay, I say let the Left knee-cap their foot-sploders publicly as it sends a clear message on how expendable they are.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:10 PM (AWqtp)

181 Saw today

New green card rule favor the rich ...

Posted by: Yo! at August 12, 2019 07:09 PM

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Exactly like Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Switzerland, etc......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 12, 2019 07:10 PM (JUOKG)

182 And some Dem-o-crap will run to a TV camera to recite the prose on the Statue of Liberty as if it has more weight than the Bill of rights in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at August 12, 2019 07:10 PM (P+Ru9)

183 Don't you people know how grueling it is to sit on your ass watching video monitors?

I mean, overtime is hard.

After we leave work, we look forward to going home, sitting on the couch and watching TV for eight hours.

I mean, we have limits.

Posted by: Union Jail Guards at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (gAXBD)

184 178 Saw today

New green card rule favor the rich ...
Posted by: Yo! at August 12, 2019 07:09 PM (1XAal)

Dumb on the surface, isn't that? Ze riche, zey need no favors... money, she talks...

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (90T4r)

185 *waves to the Empress*
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:07

* lifts The Empress up, so she can see Anna Puma *

Posted by: April the Elephant at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (UnTQ1)

186

Epstein was smothered with a My Pillow?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (dv098)

187 "Self-sufficient? Standing on one's own two feet?! All those words are missing is a white hood and a noose."

We've been lectured for over ten years that self-sufficiency, studiousness, punctuality, and other good qualities are part of "The Problem of Whiteness," and are tools of "systemic racism" and "inherent bias." We've seen that in the editorials of the NYT, WaPo, and many other mainstream papers, for years and years.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (mk9aG)

188 I know Hey Joe by Jimi's version, very close actually. That guy's voice is simular to Puddles the Clown

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (BbGew)

189 Uh oh...

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (AWqtp)

190 This new rule will make Democratic presidential candidates promise those happy immigrants swarming our borders new cars, luxury apartments, weekend vacations at Pompano beach, the moon.

Yes, they'll promise the moon, and mean it.

Posted by: troyriser at August 12, 2019 07:12 PM (mSO8Y)

191

I thought April was a giraffe?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:12 PM (aKsyK)

192 The government, and especially the President, have no authority to make any such changes to the government! Cite for me that authority in any of the language on the Statue of Liberty -- you can't, can you? QED

Posted by: ShainS -- find me at 88 Shades of Spades HQ at August 12, 2019 07:12 PM (1QFiL)

193 We've been promised the Moon before. 50 years later still not back.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:12 PM (AWqtp)

194 It's the arguing about whether Epstein's girls were
trafficked or not that is reminiscent of previous argument and the
"Little who*** were already paid" is distressing

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2019 07:10 PM (+0VWg)

Dear Fen. if you use the term "Ho", pronounced "Hoe", you can save some asterisks.

Posted by: #savetheastericks at August 12, 2019 07:13 PM (O5bec)

195 Sounds like the union can't get the job done.

Maybe we need to privatize those contracts.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:13 PM (gAXBD)

196 You can have a Welfare State (which is distinct and very different from socialism) *or* open boarders.
But not both.
If you do opt for socialism, the only boarder enforcement that you'll need to worry about will be to prevent those who produce wealth from leaving. It may take time, but it always comes to that. ALWAYS.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at August 12, 2019 07:13 PM (P+Ru9)

197
Dave is right

I'm sorry, Dave s not always right. You need to trust me on this.
Posted by: HAL 9000 at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (UnTQ1)

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Dave's not here man!

Posted by: Cheech at August 12, 2019 07:13 PM (EK+Pw)

198 >>It's the arguing about whether Epstein's girls were trafficked or not that is reminiscent of previous argument and the "Little who*** were already paid" is distressing

Yes, it is distressing. Ugly comments about minors who were sexually abused.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2019 07:13 PM (bDqIh)

199 53 They should limit the immigrants to only hot chicks under the age of 30.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (YA914)

This is so f--king toxic and problematic that we can't even...

Posted by: Society to Raise the Hot Chicks-Only Immigration Age Limit to 40 at August 12, 2019 07:13 PM (c7mrF)

200 Would the Swedish women's beach volleyball team qualify as "gainfully employed"?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM

Come sit over here and have a few beers with us.

Posted by: The Swedish Bikini Team at August 12, 2019 07:14 PM (UnTQ1)

201 Is somebody paying the Native American lobby to sit this out?

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 12, 2019 07:14 PM (RuIsu)

202 I declare all immigrants are taxes and hence legal.

SO IT SHALL BE!

Posted by: Juan "El Tax" Robertos at August 12, 2019 07:14 PM (FiUMj)

203 4 So in other words, reverting to immigration policy that was in place when the last of my family came over from Italy in the 50s

______________

Not really. They still get to be on welfare for up to a year without any penalty, even under the new rule.

"Receipt of one or more of those designated public benefits for an aggregate 12 months within any three-year period by any noncitizen will be considered a negative factor"

Also, if you're a pregnant immigrant, or a minor, you get to be on Medicaid (taxpayer-funded healthcare for the poor), and it won't count against you, even if you're on it for years.

So U.S. taxpayers are still going to be getting shafted, even with this "harsh" new rule.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2019 07:14 PM (k4dH2)

204 Fenelon and Lizzy, typical Leftist deflection again.

Blame the Victim!!! RREEE!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 07:14 PM (AWqtp)

205 So U.S. taxpayers are still going to be getting shafted, even with this "harsh" new rule.
Posted by: TrivialPursue

---------
whoa.

the West's immigration rules were written by russian moles.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:15 PM (JziUy)

206 The jailers union is, or course, trying to change the subject from their lying, lazyass performance, to Orange Man Bad. He's been cutting our hours!

Yeah, try providing something for the money you get, and maybe you'll be seen as a worthwhile investment.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:15 PM (T6t7i)

207 160 >>I don't know what to believe.

I believe Hey Joe is a tune that was likely sourced from numerous similar tunes. Lot of 'americana' type songs are this way. Then someone records it / performs it / popularizes it and that version becomes standardized.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (NE8ji)

Yes, there are many blues songs that involve the protagonist shooting his girlfriend and/or the guy she's fooling around with.

In other words, they describe the goings-on in Chicago and St. Louis on any given Saturday night.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2019 07:15 PM (sdi6R)

208 Trump Administration Releases New Rule That Makes It Easier for the Government to Reject Green Card Requests

But do I have enough time to get a couple of illegals to clean my pool and cook and clean house?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 07:16 PM (iuogb)

209 If you live in a first world country you are essentially barred from immigrating to the US as less than 10 pct of slots go to anyone from a first world country.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 12, 2019 06:55 PM (HKEA4)

You have to be a citizen of a third world shit hole with no affinity for the US to be granted an immigrant visa - to move here you have to not like us.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 12, 2019 07:16 PM (1g7ch)

210 Yes. Heard this on the radio. Head of their union said they've been alerting the gubbimt for last 3 years about lack of staffing and employees being worked to death as they get paid OT. Said it's all current administrations fault.
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (iuogb)

The operative word in all this is "union", olddog....
Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:08 PM (90T4r)

It's not like they're in the military and signed their rights away. Anyone being "worked to death" would quit. Sounds more like the union being unhappy with fewer people working more hours, resulting in less dues paid to them.

Posted by: Sjg at August 12, 2019 07:17 PM (gDSJf)

211 In Scotland you roofie yourself !

Posted by: Yo! at August 12, 2019 07:17 PM (1XAal)

212 Something about the prison guards getting blamed and their union blaming others is reminding me of the Broward County Sheriff's Department. Not kidding.

Posted by: Hands at August 12, 2019 07:17 PM (786Ro)

213 The same rules that applied to my grandparents. Grandpa courted Grandma in Chicago, and then made a beeline to San Fran, where he was paid $20 a day in gold coin as a master carpenter. Pretty good wages in 1913.

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 07:17 PM (Pqytn)

214 granted an immigrant visa - to move here you have to not like us.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 12, 2019 07:16 PM (1g7ch)

___

You say this as if it's a bad thing?

Posted by: Democrat at August 12, 2019 07:17 PM (FiUMj)

215 They should limit the immigrants to only hot chicks under the age of 30.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (YA914)

This is so f--king toxic and problematic that we can't even...

Posted by: Society to Raise the Hot Chicks-Only Immigration Age Limit to 40

I'm open to negotiation.

You can read the entire in-depth comprehensive immigration plan and subscribe to my newsletter at

SpankerBabesNotAnchorBabies. org

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (YA914)

216 Judge Pineapple will slap an injunction on this for being against ADA and discriminating against one-legged people.

Aaargh!

Posted by: Roy at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (ABjxW)

217 You know, there a few hundred soldiers down in GTMO who are watching detainees and they aren't getting paid overtime, nor are the detainees committing suicide right under their noses.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (gAXBD)

218 "Yes, there are many blues songs that involve the protagonist shooting his girlfriend and/or the guy she's fooling around with. In other words, they describe the goings-on in Chicago and St. Louis on any given Saturday night."

In my city, the "protagonists" shoot at anything and everything, for no reason whatsoever. I wish we were still allowed to use the correct name for them, instead of being forced to call them "protagonists."

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (mk9aG)

219 >>See what he did there?

The "MOST important" thing is justice for E's victims.

>>The LESS important thing is finding out who murdered the most famous inmate in the USA, in the custody of the Fed Govt.

>>I never believed, and I never will believe, that 9/11 was an inside job.

>>I believe, and I will never not believe, that Epstein was murdered despite being "protected" by the Executive Branch of the US Govt.

You forgot the first part where Barr has put a over a dozen agents on the Epstein case including with the IG and he has instructed his DAG to be briefed by the DDAG who is overseeing the case every 3 hours. And it's not exactly earth shattering for a guy in a highly political job to put the spotlight on the victim in the case, in this case women who were minors when they were trafficked, instead of the death of the scumbag pedophile who killed them.

Also, Barr said today the conspiracy investigation is going forward and anyone connected with Epstein should be worried.

This idea that Barr has gone from being the guy that everybody loved when he took the job 6 months ago to a Deep State operative now is bizarre to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (ZLI7S)

220 Got into this with lib at work - she brought it up of course. Told her every member of my immediate family had to prove they wouldn't be a drain on society before they set foot here.

Posted by: kallisto at August 12, 2019 07:19 PM (BEjc7)

221
Don't you people know how grueling it is to sit on your ass watching video monitors?

I mean, overtime is hard.

After we leave work, we look forward to going home, sitting on the couch and watching TV for eight hours.

I mean, we have limits.
Posted by: Union Jail Guards at August 12, 2019 07:11 PM (gAXBD)

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These men were so tired and abused, they could not stand up and walk the rounds at all on Friday night.

Posted by: Sergeant Schultz, MCC Union Steward at August 12, 2019 07:19 PM (EK+Pw)

222 http://bit.ly/2KGjk2N
*******
Overstock CEO Turned Over Docs To DOJ 'on FBI's Russian and Hillary Clinton Probes' - Sara A. Carter

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 07:19 PM (BqBId)

223 My theory is that if you flood the US with an influx of hot, nubile immigrant babes, you will be able to put downward pressure on the feminist movement.

Just as the mass influx of low-wage earners has put downward pressure on wage growth for unskilled labor position, an overabundance of Latino, Japanese, Scandinavian and Hungarian babes could flood the dating market, forcing domestic women to expect less out of American males, thus removing the need for men to cowtow to irrational feminists in order to obtain a meaningful relationship.

Such an immigration plan could break the feminist movement in perpetuity. Supply and demand.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (YA914)

God fucking dammit but this is so fucking insane it just HAS to work.

Posted by: Robert, boner at the ready at August 12, 2019 07:19 PM (XnY2L)

224 207 160 >>I don't know what to believe.

I believe Hey Joe is a tune that was likely sourced from numerous similar tunes. Lot of 'americana' type songs are this way. Then someone records it / performs it / popularizes it and that version becomes standardized.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:06 PM (NE8ji)

Yes, there are many blues songs that involve the protagonist shooting his girlfriend and/or the guy she's fooling around with.

In other words, they describe the goings-on in Chicago and St. Louis on any given Saturday night.
Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2019 07:15 PM (sdi6R)

Calhoun Tubbs Wrote a Song About It..... wanna hear it?? Here goes.... ( obscure reference to tv show)...

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:19 PM (90T4r)

225 My wee Scots granny came over in 1914. She was allowed to because she had a job as a seamstress and a sponsor willing to take the cost if she wasn't self sufficient. Still, she's the one with white privilege.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:20 PM (T6t7i)

226 "Head of their union said they've been alerting the gubbimt for last 3 years about lack of staffing and employees being worked to death as they get paid OT."

Oh well, in that case, murdered inmates are perfectly understandable!

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:20 PM (mk9aG)

227 I will enjoy the denunciations when the Democrats pounce upon Trump's new rule, seizing the issue to tell the American people how awful it is to require immigrants to be self-supporting.

The kind of clarification we will get will be very helpful.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Temper Your Tantrums With Strident Strife From The Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2019 07:20 PM (0QYMt)

228 I'm going to write a song about a gal who may or may not have thrown her baby off a bridge. It'll be obtuse but sad.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:20 PM (O5bec)

229 i wonder what their overtime salary is?

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 12, 2019 07:21 PM (gOcqq)

230 Lol, Trump pulled the plug on the Blago pardon. They should just keep fvcking with him.

Posted by: dartist at August 12, 2019 07:21 PM (K22Va)

231 >> I'm going to write a song about a gal who may or may not have thrown her baby off a bridge.

Maybe a song about drowning your girlfriend?

Posted by: Knoxville Guy at August 12, 2019 07:21 PM (NE8ji)

232 "Also, Barr said today the conspiracy investigation is going forward and anyone connected with Epstein should be worried."

HAHAHAHA! BWAHAHA!!!

Best Laff Of The Day! Thanks!

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:21 PM (mk9aG)

233 You have to be a citizen of a third world shit hole
with no affinity for the US to be granted an immigrant visa - to move
here you have to not like us.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 12, 2019 07:16 PM (1g7ch)

Death to America! Oh, are you going to eat that?

Posted by: Achmed the Mooching Terrorist at August 12, 2019 07:22 PM (2N7oZ)

234 Just as the mass influx of low-wage earners has put downward pressure on
wage growth for unskilled labor position, an overabundance of Latino,
Japanese, Scandinavian and Hungarian babes could flood the dating
market, forcing domestic women to expect less out of American males,
thus removing the need for men to cowtow to irrational feminists in
order to obtain a meaningful relationship.

The Latinas have to be weather girls. I have my standards, you know.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:22 PM (T6t7i)

235 163 Somebody joked about this the other night. But they are really are doing it.

The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7349961

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 12, 2019 07:01

....

I think we're over the target. The whole sky is the color of flak.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at August 12, 2019 07:22 PM (c7mrF)

236 Prison guards, while a needed profession, are usually not your brightest bulbs in the socket.

Fire their lazy, dumb, corrupt asses.

They need to be outta there like shit thru a goose......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 12, 2019 07:22 PM (Z+IKu)

237 Then lib brings up kids in concentration camps, I said that's overstating it a bit, she asked why I would say that? 'Because I studied the Holocaust'.

Posted by: kallisto at August 12, 2019 07:23 PM (BEjc7)

238
OK, I'm back

got scrambled on a S & R mission; all is well

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 12, 2019 07:23 PM (KCxzN)

239 This idea that Barr has gone from being the guy that
everybody loved when he took the job 6 months ago to a Deep State
operative now is bizarre to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (ZLI7S)

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Bizarre to me, too.

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 07:23 PM (Pqytn)

240 Maybe a song about drowning your girlfriend?

Posted by: Knoxville Guy at August 12, 2019 07:21 PM (NE8ji)

"Cement dancing shoes"?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:23 PM (O5bec)

241 lib brings up kids in concentration camps, I said that's overstating it a bit, she asked why I would say that? 'Because I studied the Holocaust'.
Posted by: kallisto

----

the liberal echo chamber is dangerous to them. They think because they're on TV, they have an audience. CNN and MSNBC are not technically...viewed by anyone.

They are insane and trump2020 is going to put their words around who ever actually runs' neck

Posted by: Keto not Beto at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (JziUy)

242 "Receipt of one or more of those designated public benefits for an aggregate 12 months within any three-year period by any noncitizen will be considered a negative factor"
_______________

So the immigrant gets food stamps, welfare, Medcaid for 11 months, then goes off for 2 months, then gets back on for another 11 months, then goes off for 2 months, then gets back on for another 11 months, ad infinitum.

And the immigration officer says "not on for an aggregate of 12 months in any 3-year period! Here's your green card, and congratulations on not being a public charge!"

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (k4dH2)

243 228
I'm going to write a song about a gal who may or may not have thrown her baby off a bridge. It'll be obtuse but sad.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Was the passing of biscuits involved?

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (T6t7i)

244 Hey, AltonJackson.

The topic is blues songs, from the PoV of someone who done shot his woman.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (t+qrx)

245
hey, Jewells

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (KCxzN)

246 239 This idea that Barr has gone from being the guy that
everybody loved when he took the job 6 months ago to a Deep State
operative now is bizarre to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (ZLI7S)

=========================
Bizarre to me, too.
Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 07:23 PM (Pqytn)

He has not done anything wrong.... this is just psyops....

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (90T4r)

247 lookes like the chicom have been getting ready to tiananmen the hong kongers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (HALdu)

248 Hmm

"The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People"

James B. Stewart, NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/
jeffrey-epstein-interview.html

Posted by: Hands at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (786Ro)

249 Prison guards are just like the inmates. Same culture, same values. They have to spend their lives in jail for 20 years before they get out.

The only difference is that the prison guards get to go home to sleep every day.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:25 PM (gAXBD)

250 Hawaiian judge rules that the ADA applies to all non-Americans with no disabilities.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 12, 2019 07:25 PM (RuIsu)

251 "not exactly earth shattering for a guy in a highly political job to put the spotlight on the victim"

The victims no longer have anything to fear from Epstein now. OTOH if we don't dismantle the evil apparatus that murdered Epstein, it will kill again.

If Barr is such hot sh!t, he should have given an order a week ago: "Don't let Epstein get murdered in his cell."

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:25 PM (mk9aG)

252 Psyops? In a AoS thread? Is such a thing ... possible?

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 07:25 PM (Pqytn)

253 I still have hopes for Barr and the other major investigations, but I think Barr failed to give special protection to this key witness, as even special agent Ann Coulter warned, many warned. But I have a 3% hope that Arnold as The Eraser secreted Epstein away and he is giving up secrets as we speak. That would be awesome. Otherwise it was a Barr failure.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (Cus5s)

254

I have repeatedly been assured by media talking heads that illegal aliens do not qualify for any government benefits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (aKsyK)

255 51 Well remember until Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, "feet dry" meant a Cuban could stay in the US.

What ever has happened to Elian Gonzalez?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2019 06:50 PM (AWqtp)

EG was a weird case, IIRC. He wasn't *quite* feet-dry and his mother died enroute. Billy and Janet were still assholes about it, though.

It was "feet dry" until Obama agreed to be Castro's prison warden and send all escapees back as part of the "historic" reopening of relations.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (/BgZy)

256 >>"The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People"

James B. Stewart, NY Times

"Kill Me Next"

James B Stewart, NY Times

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (NE8ji)

257 Tomorrow is bagpipe Tuesday!

Posted by: Barr at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (MAstk)

258 Only idiots would blame Barr.

Posted by: dagny at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (nRWPy)

259 245

hey, Jewells

Posted by: AltonJackson

..don't be afraid...
...its a sad song

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (O5bec)

260 If Barr is such hot sh!t, he should have given an order a week ago: "Don't let Epstein get murdered in his cell."

Posted by: Time To Mob gp!

Right? He should have spent the night with Epstein in his cell. It isn't like Barr's got anything else to do.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:26 PM (T6t7i)

261 The point to keep bringing up re: Epstein is that the victims were not victimized by Epstein alone, but by the predatory johns that he procured for, and many of those people are in influential and important (*AND VERY BLACKMAILABLE AND SENSITIVE*) positions.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 07:28 PM (oVJmc)

262 So when the US does what every other developed country does when considering immigrants in terms of being able to support themselves, we are racist. Is Canada racist? They require a half million in investable assets. No white hoods and nooses for my Eh Brothers to the north? And please note I love Canada long time.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 12, 2019 07:28 PM (0MyIF)

263 260 If Barr is such hot sh!t, he should have given an order a week ago: "Don't let Epstein get murdered in his cell."
______________________________________________

Wow. What a good idea. I don't think anyone would have thought to do that if he didn't tell them to do it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 12, 2019 07:28 PM (gAXBD)

264 Sure, it's totally reasonable to assume that Barr knew that the feds who kept the blind sheik and Gotti safely in there couldn't hold Epstein alive.

Posted by: dagny at August 12, 2019 07:29 PM (nRWPy)

265 "this is just psyops...."

Second time this week I've been accused of being part of a psy-op.

No, I'm just a guy who's totally lost trust in the Executive Branch of the United States Government. I don't work in the JIDF office, as I have been accused of; I only deliver pizza there.

If you can't trust US Marshals, you can't trust anybody.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:29 PM (mk9aG)

266 My understanding is blues songs often had obscure beginnings and slowly get changed.

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 07:29 PM (BbGew)

267 The Epstein shit kinda wiped El Paso off the map

Posted by: REDACTED at August 12, 2019 07:29 PM (+8+gB)

268 >> My understanding is blues songs often had obscure beginnings and slowly get changed.

Yep. Certain lines stay and many come and go.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:30 PM (NE8ji)

269 Barr, the DOJ and FBI are no match for the Clinton Crime Syndicate.

If they ain't careful, some of them could be next.

Amateurs.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (Z+IKu)

270 Epstein would have been dead a long time ago if he tried making money blackmailing customers.

Posted by: dartist at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (K22Va)

271

Gun control would have prevented Epstein's suicide.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (aKsyK)

272 "Right? He should have spent the night with Epstein in his cell."

No, he should have given an order that Epstein not be killed. Did he give any such order? I doubt it.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (mk9aG)

273 Who sez you have to qualify for government bennies to get government bennies?

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (RuIsu)

274 Overstock CEO Turned Over Docs To DOJ 'on FBI's Russian and Hillary Clinton Probes' - Sara A. Carter

--

I'm trying to figure how Overstock would have anything to do with this. Overstock??

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (JoUsr)

275 Immigration policy based on our needs trumps policy based on the immigrant's needs. And this is questionable?

Posted by: Anchovy at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (srWwQ)

276 The Epstein shit kinda wiped El Paso off the map

Live by the Squirrel,

Die by the Squirrel.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (oVJmc)

277 Little Vito Corleone got to Ellis Island alone and broke, and managed to make it on his own without government assistance.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (C1Lsn)

278 268 >> My understanding is blues songs often had obscure beginnings and slowly get changed.

Yep. Certain lines stay and many come and go.
Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:30 PM (NE8ji)

True.... standing at a Crossroads, waiting for Papa Legba pretty much stays the same though...

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (90T4r)

279 garrett, what's interesting is Stewart says Epstein asked him to be his biographer, despite being NYT Stewart must not be complete idiot because he was leery of getting any closer to him

Several months passed. Then early this year Mr. Epstein called to ask if I'd be interested in writing his biography. He sounded almost plaintive. I sensed that what he really wanted was companionship. As his biographer, I'd have no choice but to spend hours listening to his saga. Already leery of any further ties to him, I was relieved I could say that I was already busy with another book.

Posted by: Hands at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (786Ro)

280 >Die by the Squirrel

Single Best Tune on Haunting the Chapel.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (NE8ji)

281 are lefty TV guests taught to make faces and shake their heads while cons talk ??

Posted by: REDACTED at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (+8+gB)

282 Certain lines stay and many come and go.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:30 PM (NE8ji)

...and I don't see my baby no mo'.*harmonica*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (O5bec)

283 Here's a happy song.

Type O Negative - Unsuccessfully Coping With The Natural Beauty Of Infidelity

https://youtu.be/6NpDz1fcP_M

Posted by: Robert, boner at the ready at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (FCdMZ)

284 About time.
No muzzies either.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (QMwOT)

285
I'm trying to figure how Overstock would have anything to do with this. Overstock??
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun

Maybe that's where Hillary got her server?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (aKsyK)

286 Barr was responsible ... the buck stops there. Many people saw it coming. I'm sure there were others down the line the perhaps misdirected Barr, but he is the boss, he coulda shoulda stepped in. Only an idiot would accept "oh golly, I never imagined this could happen" from Barr, when many were pretty damn sure it was definitely going to happen if special steps were not taken.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:34 PM (Cus5s)

287
are lefty TV guests taught to make faces and shake their heads while cons talk ??
Posted by: REDACTED

You don't have to teach a dog to lick itself.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:34 PM (aKsyK)

288 I have repeatedly been assured by media talking heads that illegal aliens do not qualify for any government benefits.

In their defense (the Talking Heads), it's not like they'd actually know about these things.

Know what'd really be nice to have? A group of people who could find out things like that and then tell us what they found. That could even be a valuable public service if they were honest about what they told us. We might even be able to formulate government policy if we knew what was actually happening around us.

I wonder what we could call them?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 12, 2019 07:34 PM (HaL55)

289 I have repeatedly been assured by media talking heads that illegal aliens do not qualify for any government benefits.
________________

The Obama administration admitted that it paid billions of dollars worth of food stamps to illegal aliens every year. Hell, they f*cking boasted about it. The Obama administration even spent millions of our tax dollars paying to run Spanish-language radio and t.v. commercials in Mexico, telling Mexicans that they don't need to be U.S. citizens or legal residents to get U.S. food stamps!

And the U.S. Treasury admits that it pays illegal aliens billions of dollars worth of "tax credits" every year (which are thinly-disguised welfare payments), and illegal aliens also get billions of dollars worth of Medicare Part D prescription drug benefits every year, according to an article in the WaPo a few years ago.

And then there are the welfare payments that are made to "U.S. citizens" who are not actually citizens, but illegal aliens lying about being citizens, and/or using stolen id. We don't even know how many billions of dollars a year that kind of fraud is costing us, but we do know it's widespread.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2019 07:34 PM (k4dH2)

290 I'm trying to figure how Overstock would have anything to do with this. Overstock??
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun

free shipping

Posted by: REDACTED at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (+8+gB)

291 Only idiots would blame Barr.

TIME FOR BARR TO GO: THE CONSERVATIVE CASE

Posted by: The Cuckshed at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (786Ro)

292 This idea that Barr has gone from being the guy that everybody loved when he took the job 6 months ago to a Deep State operative now is bizarre to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (ZLI7S)

I agree Jack. Although I think a lot of that comes from frustration on how long it is all taking. People are inpatient...including me. But I still like Barr and I think he's an extreme dot the i's and cross the t's kinda guy.

Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (cF8AT)

293 >>If Barr is such hot sh!t, he should have given an order a week ago: "Don't let Epstein get murdered in his cell."

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest one of the first things they teach you in Prison Guard School is "Don't let anyone get murdered in their cell".

Are you really saying that the Attorney General of the United State who overseas an organization with over 110,000 people, should watcher the care of every federal prisoner? What exactly does the head of the Bureau of Prisons do? How about the warden, the prison guard leadership in the jail?

Epstein was an extremely high profile prisoner. He was on suicide watch. None of this was secret.

There was either a massive series of fuckups at the jail or something criminal happened or both. I'm pretty sure Barr tells prison guards not to break the law, too.

You do you but I'm going to watch and see what happens before assuming a guy I think has a lot of integrity is secretly "in on it!".

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (ZLI7S)

294 would there have been a safer place for Epstein? serious question.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (O5bec)

295 whatever

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (gOcqq)

296 >>I'm trying to figure how Overstock would have anything to do with this. Overstock??

Macedonian Content Farms also grow Rattan.
They do a crop rotation. To fix the Nitrogen.

Otherwise, growing all that Content would deplete the soil in just a few years.

Or, as they are more commonly known, Climbing Palms.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (NE8ji)

297 Little Vito Corleone got to Ellis Island alone and broke, and managed to make it on his own without government assistance.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (C1Lsn)

And his name was actually Andolini, not Corleone. But the Irishman working the desk just changed his name because he was having a bad day.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 12, 2019 07:36 PM (NFEMn)

298
The "overworked" guards who are going to get the blame for Epstein's "suicide" have lawyered up and are blaming ... Trump. For lack of funding.

----

Keep in mind this story is just a placeholder until the FBI motorboats come back nearly swamped from the load of "evidence" against Trump.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at August 12, 2019 07:36 PM (c7mrF)

299 are lefty TV guests taught to make faces and shake their heads while cons talk ??
Posted by: REDACTED

You don't have to teach a dog to lick itself.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:34 PM (aKsyK)

really ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 12, 2019 07:36 PM (+8+gB)

300 Sorry, but my assumption would be that the jail that housed the blind sheik, John Gott and EL CHAPO knew how to jail high profile prisoners, not that I'd have to go down there myself and make sure they were doing it right.

Sorry, but that's dumb.

Posted by: dagny at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (nRWPy)

301 So the immigrant gets food stamps, welfare, Medcaid for 11 months, then goes off for 2 months, then gets back on for another 11 months, then goes off for 2 months, then gets back on for another 11 months, ad infinitum.

And the immigration officer says "not on for an aggregate of 12 months in any 3-year period! Here's your green card, and congratulations on not being a public charge!"
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2019 07:24 PM (k4dH2)

---------

If he received benefits for a total of 12 months in a 36 month period.

Aggregate doesn't mean continuous.

Posted by: MAGA at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (dB3UF)

302 217 You know, there a few hundred soldiers down in GTMO who are watching detainees and they aren't getting paid overtime, nor are the detainees committing suicide right under their noses.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (gAXBD)

They should be building gallows for them.
Epstein was a US citizen and thus had rights that the gubmint must respect. Those "people" in Gitmo are not and were caught on the battlefield not in any uniform of any nation state. They should be executed.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (QMwOT)

303 No, he should have given an order that Epstein not be killed. Did he give any such order? I doubt it.
Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:31 PM (mk9aG)

A guy that faces a future of being a bankrupt pedo, with years of guarenteed abuse and possibly being murdered in prison, does not need to be killed.

The idea that we needed to waste time and money keeping him on 24/7 suicide watch for the next five years is stupid. Him being alive would hardly help any investigations.

Posted by: Sjg at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (gDSJf)

304 Keep in mind this story is just a placeholder until
the FBI motorboats come back nearly swamped from the load of "evidence"
against Trump.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at August 12, 2019 07:36 PM (c7mrF)

they better have the cannolis.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (O5bec)

305 True.... standing at a Crossroads, waiting for Papa Legba pretty much stays the same though...

You gotta wake up in the morning first.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (HaL55)

306 Down by the river
I shot my baby
Down by the river
Dead, shot her dead

Peace & Love, man!

Posted by: The '60's at August 12, 2019 07:37 PM (NFEMn)

307 Massive Class action Blues Clich� lawsuit coming over the western horizon.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 12, 2019 07:38 PM (RuIsu)

308 >>So the immigrant gets food stamps, welfare, Medcaid for 11 months, then goes off for 2 months, then gets back on for another 11 months, then goes off for 2 months, then gets back on for another 11 months, ad infinitum.

>>And the immigration officer says "not on for an aggregate of 12 months in any 3-year period! Here's your green card, and congratulations on not being a public charge!"

It's cute how you think they only steal One Identity, each.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:38 PM (NE8ji)

309 300
Sorry, but my assumption would be that the jail that housed the blind
sheik, John Gott and EL CHAPO knew how to jail high profile prisoners,
not that I'd have to go down there myself and make sure they were doing
it right.

Seriously. If they need instruction in how to do this, they aren't qualified for the job.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:38 PM (T6t7i)

310 >>You gotta wake up in the morning first.

You also are gonna want a hat and / or some type of shoes.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:39 PM (NE8ji)

311 I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest one of the first things they teach you in Prison Guard School is "Don't let anyone get murdered in their cell".

*head smack*

Damn, I knew there was a missing piece.

Posted by: dagny at August 12, 2019 07:39 PM (nRWPy)

312 Waiting for the next Squirrel!!, all of us... we, like everyone in America, are Media Driven... not a good thing.

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:39 PM (90T4r)

313 You do you but I'm going to watch and see what happens before assuming a guy I think has a lot of integrity is secretly "in on it!".

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM

Affirmative.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 12, 2019 07:39 PM (iuogb)

314 Make every green card holder be required to eat bacon once a week. Those that do not get the boot.

We don't need more muzzies or vegetarians.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (QMwOT)

315 Lighten up!

Justice will be served!

Posted by: Comey at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (MAstk)

316 "I'm pretty sure Barr tells prison guards not to break the law, too."

I'm pretty sure neither Barr nor anybody else in the govt gave a hot wet fart what happened to him. I'd lay odds that Barr has never been to MCC, and has never issued orders for the protection of prisoners.

I DO know, from Barr's own words quoted above, that solving the murder is of SECONDARY importance, after the MORE important job of salving the wounds of his victims (i.e., finding and distributing Epstein's money to them.)

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (mk9aG)

317 "who overseas an organization with over 110,000 people, should watcher
the care of every federal prisoner? What exactly does the head of the
Bureau of Prisons do? How about the warden, the prison guard leadership
in the jail?"

don't be obtuse ... not all 110,000, JUST THIS ONE. THIS ONE key witness to so much crime and so many big dogs, that wanted him dead.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (Cus5s)

318 Mr Peebles @ #1 nailed it. This [no public charge for immigrants] has been the norm, the rule, the law, forever. It was reiterated in recent laws.

If you marry a furriner or sponsor an immigrant, with the goal of getting, a green card, you have to sign a statement guaranteeing said person will not receive public assistance. Those signing this document may find it especially "invigorating and interesting, as they hear the latest "news" on the radio - say, a governor signing a law giving in-state tuition to illegals, and then, say, click on an article noting the latest deaths and maimings by illegals protected by "sanctuary" policies, and then on findings of a recent study estimating the % of illegals receiving public assistance.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (QDnY+)

319
Little Vito Corleone got to Ellis Island alone and broke, and managed to make it on his own without government assistance.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 12, 2019 07:32 PM (C1Lsn)

=======================
There ya' go! Another feel-good story is the one about young Tony Montana, who started his American Journey at the bottom rung of a food service provider to become a titan in the pharmaceutical industry.

Posted by: mrp at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (Pqytn)

320 Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM

Are you sure hes not in the witness protection program? Is there incontrovertible evidence that Epstein is mort?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (BrRAn)

321 Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:40 PM (mk9aG)

"Murder"... riiiiiiiiiiight

Posted by: Sjg at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (gDSJf)

322
And for virtually nation on earth outside of the EU. Try emigrating to New Zealand without having a fat bank account or a high-paying job offer with contract in hand.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 12, 2019 07:01 PM (LkGkk)

Yeah, nah. If you have the magic ROP tick in the religion part of the application form, its pretty easy. Everyone else , you are right.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (bgJ0E)

323 Are you sure hes not in the witness protection program? Is there incontrovertible evidence that Epstein is mort?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (BrRAn)

an ear was sent to Barr.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (O5bec)

324 Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:18 PM (ZLI7S)
*******
I have said it repeatedly, Emotional & Mental Problems cause it

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (BqBId)

325 I'm pretty sure neither Barr nor anybody else in the govt gave a hot wet
fart what happened to him. I'd lay odds that Barr has never been to
MCC, and has never issued orders for the protection of prisoners.

I'm pretty sure Barr also hasn't checked the cleanliness of the urinals in MCC nor emphasized the need to avoid broken glass in the food. Clearly, he's in cahoots with the Russians.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (T6t7i)

326 "Seriously. If they need instruction in how to do this, they aren't qualified for the job."

So you think they ARE qualified for the job?

BWAHAHA

Second big laff of the day.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (mk9aG)

327 I have a friend back in PA whose son is a state CO (last time I saw him, a Lieutenant). BS'ing at his dad's one day, he started listing nightmares. Number one was a CO hurt or worse, number two was inmate suicide.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (C1Lsn)

328 I DO know, from Barr's own words quoted above, that solving the murder
is of SECONDARY importance, after the MORE important job of salving the
wounds of his victims

Barr called it murder?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (lwiT4)

329 Guy on Levin explained the old immigration law that is being enforced that stops immigrants from obtaining welfare

Posted by: Skip at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (BbGew)

330 do we have another neverskankles on our hands?

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (gOcqq)

331 Seriously. If they need instruction in how to do this, they aren't qualified for the job.
Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:38 PM (T6t7i)

Gasp.

No, that's wrong. Barr is to blame, he forgot to go up there and teach them the preliminaries.

Posted by: dagny at August 12, 2019 07:42 PM (nRWPy)

332 saying Barr failed (in this instance) is not saying he was in on it ... it says he should have listened to the many like Coulter that said to give him special handling, because they can get to him where he was. And they did "get to him", even if that was the several breaks in protocol that allowed him to do it himself.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:43 PM (Cus5s)

333 Oh sorry. I thought you said "Put him in the "witness extinction program"...

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 12, 2019 07:44 PM (RuIsu)

334 "I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest one of the first things they teach you in Prison Guard School is "Don't let anyone get murdered in their cell". "

Yes, that's what I used to think too. But it turns out, if that's what they are teaching, the guards FLUNKED the test!

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:44 PM (mk9aG)

335 Are you sure hes not in the witness protection program? Is there incontrovertible evidence that Epstein is mort?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 12, 2019 07:41 PM (BrRAn)

Why the hell would the ringleader of all this get witness protection?

The point of that is to get the lackeys and associates to turn on the boss, not the other way around.

Posted by: Sjg at August 12, 2019 07:44 PM (gDSJf)

336 We need to create elected positions for "Border Bouncers". If you are cool you get in. If not go somewhere else....

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 12, 2019 07:44 PM (YvUat)

337 Kudos to Cuccinelli, he got burned and comes back as a warrior.

He has felt the fire and can stand the heat.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 12, 2019 07:45 PM (T1Aes)

338 "he should have listened to the many like Coulter that said to give him special handling, because they can get to him where he was."

Exactly! I know you morons hate Coulter now, but she DID predict this!

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:45 PM (mk9aG)

339 Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:43 PM (Cus5s)
******
You Mean the Coke Whore who fucked Mahere for awhile? that Ann Coulter?? OK ! Next

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 07:45 PM (BqBId)

340 You have to see the forest through the trees.

Posted by: Comey at August 12, 2019 07:45 PM (MAstk)

341 It feels a little frantic in here. I might go practice the Samba.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 12, 2019 07:46 PM (lwiT4)

342 Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News, pushing the proposed Federal Red Flag state assistance law. He's a big-time proponent. Crap.

Posted by: Gref at August 12, 2019 07:46 PM (AMIL/)

343 Patient United States: Doctor I haven't been feeling well lately. I think I got food poisoning from some Mexican food.

Democrat Doctor: Well the best cure is the hair of the dog that bit you and I recommend you eat any leftover Mexican food you have. Even better is to take it out of the refrigerator and let it sit for a couple of days before you eat it again.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 12, 2019 07:47 PM (2DOZq)

344 >>Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News, pushing the proposed Federal Red Flag state assistance law.

Stupid fucking Politicians. Never miss an opportunity to suck a dick for some face time.

Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2019 07:47 PM (NE8ji)

345
Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News, pushing the proposed Federal Red Flag state assistance law. He's a big-time proponent. Crap.
Posted by: Gref

He's also arguing for remaining in Afghanistan FOREVER.

Just Lindsey reverting back to being Lindsey again.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:47 PM (aKsyK)

346 "Clearly, he's in cahoots with the Russians." Yes! That's exactly what I said, you sh!thead.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:47 PM (mk9aG)

347 >>don't be obtuse ... not all 110,000, JUST THIS ONE. THIS ONE key witness to so much crime and so many big dogs, that wanted him dead.

I'm not trying to be obtuse but it's difficult when you are responding to crazy.

No, the Attorney General does not give individual orders on prisoners anymore than his boss, Donald Trump, does. This is not unique to Barr or Trump. It never happens.

This is silly. Barr has already said that multiple procedures were broken. Was he supposed to sit there and make sure standard procedures were followed? If not what would you have suggested he do to make sure people did their jobs properly?

Don't be obtuse, please. This is a serious question.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (ZLI7S)

348 A fairly open border is fairly low risk if you don't have a welfare state and a government that kowtows to non-citizens.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

if the TexasMome includes pillow fights after range time, I'm in.

And I bet The My Pillow Guy would sponsor.

Posted by: Miklosian anti-Marketing SA de CV at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (QzkSJ)

349 341 It feels a little frantic in here. I might go practice the Samba.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 12, 2019 07:46 PM (lwiT4)

Yeah, I always have to remember to not feed my nihilistic streak, which sometimes comes up at AoS....

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (90T4r)

350 Epstein is mort but I want to see who was invested in his hedge fund and are those names connected to 16 year old girls?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (T1Aes)

351 Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News, pushing the proposed Federal Red Flag state assistance law. He's a big-time proponent. Crap.
Posted by: Gref at August 12, 2019 07:46 PM (AMIL/)

and so the ratchet clicks yet again.

Getting pretty tired of this shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (xPJvm)

352 Why the hell would the ringleader of all this get witness protection?

Seriously. If that guy had the clientel he's said to have had, and the dirt associated with that kind of operation it would bring down governments.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (BrRAn)

353 346
"Clearly, he's in cahoots with the Russians." Yes! That's exactly what I said, you sh!thead.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp!

Whattya expect. I'm in cahoots with the Russians too.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (T6t7i)

354
Oktoberfest waitresses can stand on their own two... well, they're welcome.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (Wx/+I)

355 "You Mean the Coke Whore who fucked Mahere for awhile? that Ann Coulter??"

Ad hominem.

Most of you morons do NOT know how to argue, other than to turn into a mob and fling poo. That's what it always turns into.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:49 PM (mk9aG)

356 Yeah, I always have to remember to not feed my nihilistic streak, which sometimes comes up at AoS....

Posted by: kraken

I've been struggling to come up with a good ballroom dance pun, but so far, nothing. Stay tuned.

Posted by: pep at August 12, 2019 07:50 PM (T6t7i)

357 Trouble ahead
trouble behind
and you know that notion
just crossed my mind
...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 12, 2019 07:50 PM (LpklP)

358 cahoots (n.)
"company, partnership," 1829, Southern and Western American English, of unknown origin; said [OED] to be perhaps from French cahute "cabin, hut", but U.S. sources [Bartlett] credit it to French cohorte, which is said to have had a sense of "companions, confederates."

Posted by: hogmartin at August 12, 2019 07:50 PM (t+qrx)

359 Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News, pushing the proposed Federal Red Flag state assistance law. He's a big-time proponent. Crap.
Posted by: Gref

Miss Lindsey is up next year.

I say Vic 2020!!!!

Posted by: Miklos, a statistically valid sampler at August 12, 2019 07:50 PM (QzkSJ)

360
1-2-3-4 wiggle-wiggle-wiggle-sway

See how easy?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 12, 2019 07:50 PM (lwiT4)

361 Okay, time to go.... way too negative here.... so play with yourselves....

Posted by: kraken at August 12, 2019 07:50 PM (90T4r)

362 You Mean the Coke Whore who fucked Mahere for awhile? that Ann Coulter??"

Ad hominem.

Also, there is no public evidence that she actually does coke.

Posted by: Miklos, pithily at August 12, 2019 07:51 PM (QzkSJ)

363 So, nood. Sarah Silverman.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 12, 2019 07:51 PM (t+qrx)

364 "my assumption would be that the jail that housed the blind sheik, John
Gott and EL CHAPO knew how to jail high profile prisoners, not that I'd
have to go down there myself and make sure they were doing it right.
Sorry, but that's dumb."

obviously it is not dumb, because we have evidence they did NOT know how to handle this ... a dead body of evidence.

Were those guys suicidal? In any case, many felt this was a special case more important than those, with more insiders wanting him dead. There are like five special things that happened to make it so. Barr was warned ...

and no, he did not have to go down there himself, sheesh ... make a couple calls "hey, is this Coulter woman right, should we move to SuperMax ... or any other of the numerous warning. Have an outsider special whoever sit right there ... easy, but no, that would be "dumb and idiotic", despite the dead body evidence it would NOT have been dumb. good grief ... maybe it just means Barr still trusts DeepState too much.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 07:51 PM (Cus5s)

365 noodles

Posted by: trapper's girl at August 12, 2019 07:52 PM (gOcqq)

366 Seriously. If that guy had the clientel he's said to have had, and the dirt associated with that kind of operation it would bring down governments.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 12, 2019 07:48 PM (BrRAn)

The dirt would be the people he invited to his island and had do illegal things with him. He's the central criminal in all this.

You don't let Capone off so he can rat out the people he bribed.

Posted by: Sjg at August 12, 2019 07:52 PM (gDSJf)

367 345
Lindsey Graham was just on Fox News, pushing the proposed Federal Red Flag state assistance law. He's a big-time proponent. Crap.
Posted by: Gref

He's also arguing for remaining in Afghanistan FOREVER.

Just Lindsey reverting back to being Lindsey again.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 12, 2019 07:47 PM (aKsyK)

He's up for re-election, which is why he's been acting conservative lately.

Posted by: rickl at August 12, 2019 07:52 PM (sdi6R)

368 Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:49 PM (mk9aG)
********
NO I was describing Ann Coulter, Sorry if you got Triggered Sweetheart

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 07:52 PM (BqBId)

369 Nood Sarah Silverman

Posted by: Josephistan at August 12, 2019 07:52 PM (Izzlo)

370 Most of you morons do NOT know how to argue, other than to turn into a mob and fling poo. That's what it always turns into.
Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:49 PM (mk9aG)

Concern noted. Chap.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 12, 2019 07:53 PM (bgJ0E)

371 "It's the arguing about whether Epstein's girls were trafficked or not that is reminiscent of previous argument and the "Little who*** were already paid" is distressing"

Fenelon, I want you to note, that as obnoxious a misogynist as I am, I have NOT engaged in any of that! I want it noted. AoSHQ is a f'n mob.

Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:53 PM (mk9aG)

372 C O Jarhead, bloody well fucking spot - fucking - on .

Bring down governments indeed.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 12, 2019 07:53 PM (LpklP)

373 AoSHQ is a f'n mob.
Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:53 PM (mk9aG)

Then flee. Flee I say.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 12, 2019 07:54 PM (bgJ0E)

374 Then flee. Flee I say.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at August 12, 2019 07:54 PM (bgJ0E)
******
HAHAHA

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 12, 2019 07:55 PM (BqBId)

375 Graham has been consistent in his positions both good and bad. Even when McCain was alive he was a bulldog on a number of conservative issues but those were overshadowed by his boneheaded positions he championed with McCain.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 12, 2019 07:56 PM (2DOZq)

376 Nood nood Motherfuckinghamsterfuckers

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 12, 2019 07:56 PM (ZCfi+)

377 >>Are you sure hes not in the witness protection program? Is there incontrovertible evidence that Epstein is mort?

I'm not sure of anything. Nobody is. But yea, if I had to guess I'd say he's dead.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2019 07:57 PM (ZLI7S)

378 ^^^ "They quarantined and sent back immigrants who had diseases"...

Hey Julio i no get to see TB no more...get me a Hex Box.

Posted by: saf at August 12, 2019 07:57 PM (5IHGB)

379 Graham clearly has the voters of his state figured out. Not even afraid of going full retard on gun control, in an election cycle. Amazing.

Recall, there is *not* any actual widespread popular demand to "do something". Not even close. Thus is not even pandering - this is the mediocrity or worse of the GOP incumbents expressing itself. Even Crenshaw/TX.

The ongoing crime wave of mass illegal migration, which involves major cartel activity, gang activity, smuggling, human trafficking, almost certainly int'l terrorist infiltration, economic harm to low-end wage-earners, and a large and growing butcher's bill of murders, rapes, assaults, DUI homicides and mayhem, and other serious crime - *this* so consumes the congressional GOP that they provide no additional resources to deal with it in an approprations package that blows the doors off prior comparative "restraint".

And try to think of the last time a GOP type made a headline with a statement or an initiative related to this outrage - which was the largest single issue area making Trump the nominee, and even winning the general.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2019 07:58 PM (QDnY+)

380 Most of you morons do NOT know how to argue, other than to turn into a mob and fling poo. That's what it always turns into.
Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:49 PM (mk9aG)

Don't you have a white terrorism meme you have to spread?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 12, 2019 07:58 PM (2DOZq)

381 Funny thing is that rule has been a grounds for inadmissibility under Section 212 of the INA for years. The border has never been allowed to use it because the rules were written in such a way as to make it unenforceable. (H/T to the DOJ and the INS, circa 1999)

Posted by: New_Acct_Who_Dis at August 12, 2019 07:59 PM (keZVT)

382 316 "I'm pretty sure Barr tells prison guards not to break the law, too."

--------

Was I no supposed to do that?

Because nobody told me when I was hired

Posted by: MAGA at August 12, 2019 08:00 PM (dB3UF)

383 would there have been a safer place for Epstein? serious question.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 12, 2019 07:35 PM (O5bec)

I was all in for granted Epstein $100M cash bail, putting a bunch of tails on his ass, and then seeing where he runs and who tries to kill him.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 12, 2019 08:00 PM (1g7ch)

384 test

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Temper Your Tantrums With Strident Strife From The Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2019 08:00 PM (0QYMt)

385 Okay - first I was banned and now I am back.

I do not know what happened - so weird.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Temper Your Tantrums With Strident Strife From The Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2019 08:01 PM (0QYMt)

386 >>The Latinas have to be weather girls.

on 6 month contracts. the wall comes fast.

Posted by: x at August 12, 2019 08:04 PM (nFwvY)

387 "Barr has already said that multiple procedures were broken. Was he
supposed to sit there and make sure standard procedures were followed?
If not what would you have suggested he do to make sure people did their
jobs properly?

if it is serious, I already said, at the least assign an extra man to be there constantly ... or the SuperMax idea was brought up by more than Coulter I think. Many people knew. Of course Barr could intervene for special handling ... this is a central figure ... this is not a routine prisoner. Yes, I think he should have made some calls to assure they were up to the task.

You say "it never happens" that Trump or Barr intervene for special cases? ... well it does not normally work that way ... but hard to believe they NEVER get so involved. No he doesn't drive down and look around, he makes calls, designates authority for someone trusted to keep up on it ... especially after attempt number one. To just leave it to the normal corrupt bureaucracy and hope for the best is how we got into this whole mess.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 08:05 PM (Cus5s)

388 Were Epstein's girls trafficked?

Well he did fly them on his private jet and sail them on his private yachts.

Dems are scared and cannot put this on Trump unless they start manufacturing evidence. See PDT does like the ladies and got all the tail he wanted because he's rich. All his tail was adult ass; sure young adult but adult nonetheless. PDT is a father of daughters. Epstein was a creep and creeps hang with other creeps; hence Bill Clinton.

They'll try and get that girlfriend of Epstein's as a consolation prize but as long as she stays in England she'll be okay.

Someone needs to ask Kameltoe how many blow jobs did it take to be CA's AG. Would love to hear that on a debate.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 08:09 PM (QMwOT)

389 The theme song for the Epstein biopic will be Killing Me Softly by Roberta Flack.

Posted by: Eromero at August 12, 2019 08:10 PM (UUkQp)

390 380 Most of you morons do NOT know how to argue, other than to turn into a mob and fling poo. That's what it always turns into.
Posted by: Time To Mob gp! at August 12, 2019 07:49 PM (mk9aG)

No, we aim and fire our assault rifles.
Ends the argument quickly and we can get back to the business at hand.
If needed, our side arms are used to finish off the wounded.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 08:13 PM (QMwOT)

391 Dude had an escape plan and that's why bail was denied. Had bail been set he and Roman Polansky would be having dinner together now.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 12, 2019 08:16 PM (QMwOT)

392 how we got into this whole mess.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 08:05 PM (Cus5s)

Scumbag is a rotting corpse and we didnt have to pay millions of dollars to give him food and shelter and years of trials and appeals.

Seems pretty win-win to me.

Posted by: Sjg at August 12, 2019 08:18 PM (gDSJf)

393 You Mean the Coke Whore who fucked Mahere for awhile? that Ann Coulter??"

Ad hominem.

Also, there is no public evidence that she actually does coke.
Posted by: Miklos, pithily at August 12, 2019 07:51 PM (QzkSJ)

I don't know why but this comment just made me lose it.

Posted by: Robert, boner at the ready at August 12, 2019 08:19 PM (m5Ehc)

394 Cool. Yet more immigration tiddlywinks. Border remains wide open - but let's keep tap dancing and gettin jiggy over here to distract them. They'll forget about that pesky border cause we're "doin sumthin' - anything.

Posted by: MAGAnanamous at August 12, 2019 08:34 PM (YJK93)

395 After two years of filling out paperwork and paying the filing fees for each piece of paper we submitted, I was able to get my fiancee a visa into the states. Total cost getting her into the states was about $5,000. We had to prove she would not be a burden to the taxpayers and that I would be able to support her. It was mid-2006 when we arrived in the states.

Three years ago, and about $15,000 later, she took the oath of citizenship. We are still together and still very happy together.

Why did it cost so much and take so much time?

I am a caucasian, and neither of us speak spanish, maybe. Not really complaining, other than being out a lot of money, but I do wish EVERY immigrant had to go through what we did to come here.

Posted by: TX Nick77 at August 12, 2019 09:08 PM (T23Px)

396 "Scumbag is a rotting corpse and we didnt have to pay
millions of dollars to give him food and shelter and years of trials
and appeals.

Seems pretty win-win to me."Posted by: Sjg

his value is in putting away some very powerful scumbags. imo Epstein was not Al Capone, he was a tool for someone getting kompromat on powerful people. AND maybe involved in child trafficking, and ... would cut deals and give a lot of evidence. Maybe we still have the evidence and we did save money ... idk. To me, his value was his being able to put together pieces of perhaps a globalist syndicate. ... and be a witness to their blackmail of key people ...

Posted by: illiniwek at August 12, 2019 09:37 PM (Cus5s)

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