Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-20-2019 [Hosted By: MovieGique]

Shadow

I was tempering the children's expectations regarding this Zhang Yimou movie because it ranks well below House of Flying Daggers (on the ratings sites) which in turn ranks well below Hero, but I needn't have worried. We loved this tale of a changeling general (the titular "shadow") who is being set up to overthrow his Lord (because the real general was stabbed by a master and seems to be dying) through some series of plot devices that involve defeating the same master who stabbed the real general.

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Meanwhile, a horse contemplates crossing a bridge.


I'm being vague here because it's been a few weeks and the plot was very intricate but we were pleasantly surprised: We all followed the plot and could tell the characters apart. Impressive, given that two of the leads are played by Chao Deng. But the characters are so different, I kept wondering if it was the same person.

Anyway, there's a lot going on. The Shadow is increasingly unsure of being a pawn in this game (which pretty much has to end up with him dying, even though the general teases him with the possibility of getting back to his mother after it's all over). The general's plan seems to be flawless if the Shadow can defeat the master but that's a big if. Meanwhile, the general's wife, while maintaining a respectful distance, does seem to be getting more attracted to the Shadow—who after all is identical to her husband, except maybe less of a jerk. Meanwhile, the wife ends up coming up with the strategy that can defeat the master, and it involves...weaponized umbrellas!

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That is one nasty bumbershoot!


It's great. The indoor shots and a few of the battle scenes are filmed in black-and-white (probably color corrected after the fact), though the (obligatory) bamboo forest scene is a verdant green. It's just a beautiful film, is what I'm saying, and it's not just anyone who could make a battle scene involving an army of women with parasols work. In fact, I can't think of anyone else who could do it.

So, the set design is wonderful, the camerawork wonderful, the wire work amazing—though not over the top, which I appreciated, because the sort of super-heroic character implicit in the flying hero would've undermined the need for a solid battle strategy. The choreography is fun and the plot is engaging. The acting is good, kind of Shakespearean, with its weak kings and power mad generals. The stars are good looking and otherwise appealing. What more could you want? Music? The music is also really good, with drums and zithers dominating. (The stage name of the composer is, amusingly,"Loudboy", although there's some controversy over whether or not he plagiarized the work.)

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Trouble a-brewin'.


Almost two hours long, but it's thick. The ending...is probably not a people-pleaser. The three men are locked in a struggle, while the general's wife has to figure out what her role in this is going to be. I liked getting to the end, and so was less invested in the details of the story's resolution. I did see a couple of the twists coming (as did The Flower), but not all of them.

A lot of fun. Pure historical soap with kung-fu action. Don't know why it didn't do better.

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Deadly umbrella squad or scrubbing bubbles?

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:50 PM




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Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:51 PM (GaOgf)

2 Hello OM. Is this movie in English or subtitles?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:51 PM (GaOgf)

3 Movie sign!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 07:52 PM (kQs4Y)

4 Nyah!

Turtles on the half shell spinning instead of scrubbing bubbles?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:52 PM (cH3lq)

5 More movies I never saw.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:53 PM (BbGew)

6 "Deadly umbrella squad or scrubbing bubbles?"

Langoliers.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 07:53 PM (t+qrx)

7 Langoliers.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 07:53 PM (t+qrx)


Oh Oh Oh I know this one!

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:54 PM (GaOgf)

8 A friend saw "Crawl". Said it was the best B-level killer croc movie filmed in Serbia he's seen in a long time.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 07:54 PM (kQs4Y)

9 Chappaquiddick. Yeah.

I had to watch this on this anniversary. All I can say is - it is brilliant. It sticks to the facts as we know them; and what we know isn't quite What Happened That Night, but how the coverup went down afterward.

And what we know from the coverup is disgusting. Edward Kennedy ran from the accident and hid (probably to lower his own B.A.C. level), and then called in the accident after the cops had already found the body and done a preliminary diagnosis of asphyxiation (and not drowning) on poor Mary Jo Kopechne.

We all know the story, or have cobbled bits of it from this or that comment made by this or that anti-Kennedy commentator; but to see it all play out on screen is wrenching.

Also disgusting is how the local muckety-mucks of eastern Massachusetts fell all over themselves to help out a Kennedy. And the ending where most the eastern Masshole NPCs agree to vote for this worm again, uggh.

So: not easy to watch (despite the LOLz over the famous neck brace) but I recommend it to all.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (ykYG2)

10 If The Jade Enchantress or The Devil Wives of Li Fong ever were made into movies, the Soviet Justice Wankers would be up in arms over cultural appropriation because both delightful romps were written by an American named E. Hoffmann Price.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (cH3lq)

11 Tough to look at entertainment the same way and enjoy it.

Posted by: guy shocked to death over all the androgynes at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (ym5eo)

12 I like samurai movies, kung-fu are ok

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (BbGew)

13 ALH--

"Shadow" is in Chinese. I saw subtitles but there's probably a dub out there.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (CcUfv)

14 ''Trouble a-brewin'.''

Oh boy is it ever. You know when a beautiful woman starts bandaging a handsome warrior it's more than trouble brewing. See Last of the Mohicans and Outlander.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (jm1YL)

15 Crawl is good of its kind. A Boo! movie

Where's Steve Irwin when you need him

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (EaqZE)

16 also, thanks / apologies to the ONT last night, where I was live-commenting it when i watched it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (ykYG2)

17

Kind of thought we might get a space movie for today. Oh well, back to Space 1999. Joan Collins was in the last one with a dress that barely covered her bum

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (1ChV0)

18 Anna!

Oh, wow, E Hoffman Price is RIGHT up my alley. I'll have to pick him up.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (CcUfv)

19 It was Ted's own idea to wear the neck brace

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (EaqZE)

20 How did alligator snapping turtles get to Japan? And what are they protesting in the street?

Posted by: guy shocked to death over all the androgynes at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (ym5eo)

21 "Shadow" is in Chinese. I saw subtitles but there's probably a dub out there.
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 07:56 PM (CcUfv)

Anything like What's Up Tiger Lily?

Posted by: ALH at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (GaOgf)

22 if this is also the /a/ thread as well as /tv/ : the Kanata no Astra anime, tracking the manga, has been running the last few weeks. In my opinion it's the best space odyssey anime since Yamato / Star Bazalers*.

*not the real name.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 07:59 PM (ykYG2)

23 The only movies with Asians in them most Americans want to see are those kung-fu types where the mouth is still moving but the words have already been said or vice-versa.

Fists of Fury, Five Fingers of Death, Enter the Dragon and Kentucky Fried Movie come to mind.

Everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 07:59 PM (Z+IKu)

24 First Man is on HBO. Its too much of an art film, but has its moments

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:59 PM (EaqZE)

25 I'm kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 20, 2019 08:00 PM (++4Ew)

26 19 It was Ted's own idea to wear the neck brace
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 07:58 PM (EaqZE)

Fucking Beneke, dude.

Posted by: guy shocked to death over all the androgynes at July 20, 2019 08:00 PM (ym5eo)

27 The Jade Enchantress is all about outwitting the Chinese tax man, pillow books, Mongols, and of course jade.

The Devil Wives of Li Fong centers around humble Li Fong who gets blessed with two beautiful wives. who happen to be snake demons who want to fix their karma and become human. Alas there are unscrupulous monks who want to do away with the wives.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:01 PM (cH3lq)

28 TheQuietMan--

One of the first moves I reviewed on my blog back in 2007 was "In the Shadow of the Moon", a low-key documentary interviewing Buzz and the gang.

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2007/10/13/in-the-shadow-of-the-moon/

But I write the reviews typically weeks before they show up here so I'm not very topical.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:03 PM (CcUfv)

29 So: not easy to watch (despite the LOLz over the famous neck brace) but I recommend it to all.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2019 07:55 PM (ykYG2)

I suspect the part where even his own family and hangers on were disgusted is a Hollywood invention, but it should have been true. He had zero business setting foot in Washington, save for a public execution on account of his treason.

Posted by: trev006 at July 20, 2019 08:03 PM (o5jh5)

30 The only movies with Asians in them most Americans want to see are those kung-fu types where the mouth is still moving but the words have already been said or vice-versa.

Fists of Fury, Five Fingers of Death, Enter the Dragon and Kentucky Fried Movie come to mind.

Everybody was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

I guess we should wait for the ONT to discuss the other Asian movies.

Posted by: Jean at July 20, 2019 08:05 PM (7eVo8)

31 Kung-fu Hustle, can't forget that. Or most of Jackie Chan's movies. Or can we?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (cH3lq)

32 There were a lot of space movies on this week, caught Alien, and Aliens.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (BbGew)

33 31 Kung-fu Hustle, can't forget that. Or most of Jackie Chan's movies. Or can we?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (cH3lq)


I LOVE Kung-fu Hustle.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2019 08:07 PM (x8APX)

34 This week I picked up a few videodiscs (CEDs) that showed up at my local thrift store. One is a 1979 Italian/American movie called The Visitor that has a small part played by Neil Boortz, the radio guy. Haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet, but it opens up with a pretty good visual sequence with John Houston in a psychedelic dreamscape.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:07 PM (oVJmc)

35 I'm kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike.


Well, they ARE Chinese.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:08 PM (oVJmc)

36 I saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" this past week and I must say I was impressed. Did it take liberties with what actually happened? I am 1000% sure it did but it was an entertaining movie and had moments which reminded me of my youth so that counted for a great deal.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:10 PM (/0HPZ)

37 I also saw Secret Of My Success again, for the first time since 1987.

As semi-satires of Reagan-era New York go, TSoMS is not the best. Gremlins 2 is the best. With honourable mentions to Weekend At Bernies and Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead.

But if you like watching Michael J Fox get pounced on by MILFs twice as tall as he is, which I'll admit that I did when I was thirteen years old, then go for it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (ykYG2)

38 Sven is showing Village of the Giants.


Good chance to see a barely-clothed Joy Harmon (LOOOO-CIIILLLEEE!!!)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (oVJmc)

39 House of the Flying Daggers, Golden Flower and Bullet Proof Monk are my watch over and over movies.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (BZzXD)

40 Oh well, back to Space 1999. Joan Collins was in the last one with a dress that barely covered her bum
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 07:57 PM (1ChV0)

There's something I haven't seen at all since I was nine and I couldn't help but think of what a strange show it was back then.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (/0HPZ)

41 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:10 PM (/0HPZ)

I liked it. No idea how accurate it was. I heard it had the full backing of the band however. Minus Freddy obviously.

Posted by: Jewells45 at July 20, 2019 08:12 PM (dUJdY)

42
There's something I haven't seen at all since I was nine and I couldn't help but think of what a strange show it was back then.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:11 PM (/0HPZ)



I'm digging the bellbottomed jump suits and platform shoes in 1999.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (1ChV0)

43 25 I'm kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike.
Posted by: Texican ette at July 20, 2019 08:00 PM (++4Ew)

Two hours watching one you want to watch it again.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (Vy7tf)

44 The Jade Enchantress is all about outwitting the Chinese tax man

Iron Monkey was good for this.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (ykYG2)

45 Dang it, now can't remember the title of this one Chinese film kept meaning to watch and then getting distracted.

Got a princess who is disfigured. An evil nine-tail offers to swap faces and skins with her. And things get bad from there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:13 PM (cH3lq)

46 Speaking of Asian movies - anybody see the Sunday silent two weeks ago on TCM? It was a Japanese horror movie from 1926 called "A Page of Madness". I'd never even heard of it.
It was brilliant. It actually reminded me of - and I can't believe I'm saying this - Napoleon and Man With A Movie Camera. Simple plot - an old man takes a job at an insane asylum to be near his wife, who's an inmate. But the photography and editing are unworldly. Distorted lenses, swish pans, canted frames, elaborate camera movements - it was unreal. I immediately watched it again the next day. Check out the imdb page for about 20 stills - you'll get an idea.

Posted by: Vertov at July 20, 2019 08:14 PM (fVQkv)

47 oh I wanma watch Shadow! is it streaming anywhere?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 08:14 PM (dm05u)

48 All Chinese Historical Drama look alike?! IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?!

Yeah, kinda true, the way Korean historical dramas tend to, and European ones, too.

American ones break down into categories (western, frontier, colonial, civil war, gilded age) which look different between them but tend to look the same in the same genre.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:14 PM (CcUfv)

49 Does no one watch Israeli made movies?

How about Ushpizin, The Band and The Lemon Tree.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:15 PM (BZzXD)

50 I've never watched a Chinese movie, so I dunno. I was so involved with the chess thread that I completely missed that Soyuz MS-13 has already docked with the ISS. That happened a couple of hours ago.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

51 There were a lot of space movies on this week, caught Alien, and Aliens.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (BbGew)


A couple of local radio stations were playing space related songs or songs from 1969 as a tie in

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:15 PM (1ChV0)

52 I don't think I have seen a Chinese movie. I have seen Korean ones and have some on DVD in fact. I also have two of the works of Sergei Eisenstein: Alexander Nevsky and Ivan the Terrible Part I.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (/0HPZ)

53 Watched "Roadhouse" on Netflix. I never saw it before. Lots of tits. I was thinking "That asshole would have been shot with an AR-15 ten years ago."

Posted by: JAS at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (I5SAg)

54 Ben Had, does watching Divine Intervention once count in some odd weird way?

https://annapuna.blogspot.com/2008/04/palestinian-matrix-movie.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (cH3lq)

55 Vmom--

I don't know if there's a legitimate place to watch Shadow yet. Since WB shuttered DramaFever there isn't really a good central place for Asian stuff.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:17 PM (CcUfv)

56 kind of burned out on Chinese historical movies right now. They have too much of a sameness and start looking all alike"

You be here fou hours! You go now!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 20, 2019 08:18 PM (6qErC)

57 Watching boxing on Fox. Gonna be a early night.

For the boxer in the black trunks.

Posted by: JAS at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (I5SAg)

58 Ben Had--

We must not have met previously. There have been times when Israeli films made up, maybe 10-20% of my moviegoing.

The Boy and I will watch as many as we can during the L.A. Israeli Film Fest, but it's gotten so popular it's hard to get in any more.

Uzhpizin is one of my favorite films of all time, and I liked The Band. In fact, I was very close to making the review today of "The Other Story", which is great.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (CcUfv)

59 heard it had the full backing of the band however

I've drawn the parallel between "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Control". "Rhapsody" got the band's perspective but didn't ask around much beyond that.

"Control" got the perspective of Ian Curtis' estranged wife. And the New Order boys didn't like it.

Because "Control" accused the rest of Joy Division as, mainly, a bunch of enablers who lied to Mrs Curtis which they, er, were. Although it did excuse the band as being a bunch of working-class kids, FAR over their heads with what Mr Curtis was going through.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (ykYG2)

60 I'm watching one of the Hunger Games flicks. Stanley Tucci's phosphorescent chiclet teeth are amazing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 08:19 PM (kQs4Y)

61 Stephen Chow movies are always fun.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:20 PM (oVJmc)

62 Anna, I confess that I never seen this but I will see what I can do to rectify that.

The Stoning of SorayaM is still a classic for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:20 PM (BZzXD)

63 The ref stopped the bout and the guy in black trunks is pissed.

Posted by: JAS at July 20, 2019 08:20 PM (I5SAg)

64 Watched the end of The Dirty Dozen on TCM. I still expect Jim Brown to make it.

I learned that it and Inglorius Basterds were inspired by the real life Filthy Thirteen, a unit that parachuted behind lines during things like DDay to blow up shit

Led by a guy named McNiece who was part Chocktaw Indian

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 20, 2019 08:21 PM (KcAVx)

65 First Ben Had watch the clip in the link. You may want to not watch this movie afterwards... o.O;;;;

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:21 PM (cH3lq)

66 Alita is going to be in Redbox's in a few days. I didn't have a chance to see it in the theater.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 20, 2019 08:22 PM (DjIXP)

67 "Control" is a terrific little film.

"24 Hour party People" also had Joy Division with Ian Curtis portrayed by Sean Harris.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (kQs4Y)

68 movieque, I am sorry if I stomped on your thread and I appreciate your kindness.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (BZzXD)

69 As someone upthread said, I prefer samurai to kung fu.

It's not about fighting styles, Japanese have a certain aesthetic and so does Hong Kong.

Meanwhile I am just bouncing up and down waiting for "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" to come out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (fuK7c)

70 couple of local radio stations were playing space related songs or songs from 1969 as a tie in

I suppose Co shu Nie's "Asphyxia" didn't make the playlist

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (ykYG2)

71 Not Chinese, but Asian-Japanese. We watched "Ran" directed by Kurosawa, which the story of "King Lear" set in feudal Japan and with three sons instead of three daughters. It was very good.

Now son and his dad are watching something called Monsieur Varneux, or something like that which features Charlie Chaplin against type, cast as a serial murderer. I had never heard of it before. Martha Raye play one of his wives. She is funny.

My son likes off beat films, I will recommend this Chinese film to him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (+0VWg)

72 We got a digital download code with a mini-Kubrick of Alita in the store. Still no urge to see it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (cH3lq)

73 Bongino is on fire this week.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 08:24 PM (S7WbR)

74

Now son and his dad are watching something called Monsieur Varneux,



Monsieur Verdoux.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:25 PM (oVJmc)

75 I'm watching one of the Hunger Games flicks.


I saw the first one because children. All I remember is that the girl is being chased by a 40 foot tall CGI wolf that's about ten paces behind her and he never catches up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:26 PM (fuK7c)

76 Alita is going to be in Redbox's in a few days. I didn't have a chance to see it in the theater.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 20, 2019 08:22 PM (DjIXP)

The girl who plays Alita is cute as a button. And oddly the big googly eyes thing worked well.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:26 PM (DgSC4)

77 Anna, dial up does not lend itself to video unless I want to wait 8/9 hours.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:27 PM (BZzXD)

78
The girl who plays Alita is cute as a button. And oddly the big googly eyes thing worked well.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:26 PM (DgSC4)


Marty Feldman:What's so odd about that?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:28 PM (1ChV0)

79 Alita is yuuge over on 4chan's /tv/ for some reason.
I did like it but I'd rate it 7/10. something to buy at the $8 level or less.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:28 PM (ykYG2)

80 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:25 PM (oVJmc)

Yep; Sorry. Charlie does some of his famous facial expressions though. I haven't seen Chaplin in many talkies, if any, but I may be having a senior moment about them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:28 PM (+0VWg)

81 The Stoning of Soraya M. actually pissed me off. It's a good movie. The story is barbaric.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:29 PM (CcUfv)

82 We got a digital download code with a mini-Kubrick of Alita in the store. Still no urge to see it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:23 PM (cH3lq

Ever watch the OVA? Basically the same thing with some extra stuff I'm assuming from the manga thrown in.

It's not bad. But then I'm a dirty old man that just likes watching cute girls.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (DgSC4)

83 We watched "Ran" directed by Kurosawa, which the story of "King Lear" set in feudal Japan and with three sons instead of three daughters. It was very good.


It's not just Lear. It's Lear, but it's more. Specifically it's Die Niebelungen, a 1931-ish silent movie by Fritz Lang. It's four or six hours long, so it's a commitment, but if your son is a geek it will be worth the effort.

A lot of the plot is the same, a girl is forced to marry into an enemy household and plots to destroy it from within. And some of the scenes are shot for shot remakes.

I love Kurosawa and I hate that Leone stole from him, but his hands were not perfectly clean.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (fuK7c)

84 boulder t'hobo, Do you have a pawnshop in your area that has DVD's. I get most of mine for a buck and they do a two for one trade in.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (BZzXD)

85 Ok, so Ace.mu.nu now shows up on my phones Google news feed. Sweet, sure as shit better than CNN stories.

Posted by: Garbone at July 20, 2019 08:31 PM (F0Hqz)

86 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

MAGA has such special meaning today.

Posted by: Quilp at July 20, 2019 08:31 PM (Bf3hj)

87 Went to check the Indycar race in Iowa but they were showing the IMSA race in Connecticut. I will assume it is raining in Newton, Iowa?

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 20, 2019 08:32 PM (Qt2ya)

88 movieque, No less than the stoning scene in "The Kite Runner"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:33 PM (BZzXD)

89 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:30 PM (fuK7c)

Thanks. I will tell him. The last silent film they watched was "Metropolis" by Fritz Lang.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:34 PM (+0VWg)

90 87: some sporty weather around newton right now.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (KP5rU)

91 86 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

MAGA has such special meaning today.
Posted by: Quilp at July 20, 2019 08:31 PM (Bf3hj)

As much as I commemorate every July 20 for the great event 50 years ago tonight, I'm bent that we have not done a single moon landing in my lifetime.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (/0HPZ)

92

In honor of the space walk I'd like to mention one of the greatest movies ever made that was set in space. Space Mutiny.


Slab Bulkhead!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (1ChV0)

93 Re: the Newton Indycar race, yes, it's raining. I'm at the track, sitting in the car, waiting for the rain to stop, or for them to call it off.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (wshbh)

94 The last silent film they watched was "Metropolis" by Fritz Lang.


The source of all set design for dystopic film since. Yes, Blade Runner, I'm looking at you.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:36 PM (fuK7c)

95 first scene to feature Chaplin's voice
https://tinyurl.com/y3dfdoz3

Posted by: Vertov at July 20, 2019 08:36 PM (fVQkv)

96 chavez, are you safe and out of harm's way? I saw that you were without power.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:37 PM (BZzXD)

97 Ben Had --

Oh, no problem at all. Same with anyone who wants to discuss a movie topic. The post is just to start the conversation, if that.

Anna --

Every Palestinian movie I have seen has been virulently anti-Semitic. And that's just the ones that make it to Encino. Critics love 'em, tho'.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:38 PM (CcUfv)

98 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:36 PM (fuK7c)

I didn't see all of it. I tend to wander in and out unless it's a movie I really want to see. Yes, it seemed creepy and dystopic since it's it part, the regimentation of workers and the evils of capitalism, or so it seemed..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:38 PM (+0VWg)

99 Slab Bulkhead!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (1ChV0)
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https://mst3k.fandom.com/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_David_Ryder

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2019 08:38 PM (kQs4Y)

100 I'm bent that we have not done a single moon landing in my lifetime.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (/0HPZ)

Three things I want in my lifetime.

1. Affordable trips to the moon.

2. Flying cars.

3. Genetically engineered and domesticated cat girls.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:39 PM (DgSC4)

101 ''movieque, No less than the stoning scene in "The Kite Runner"''

Try watching "Osama" which I think was the 1st movie to come out of Afghanistan after the Taliban fell. It's not about the Osama but about a young girl who disguises herself as a boy to find work during the Taliban's reign of terror. Oh it will make you madder than hell.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 08:40 PM (jm1YL)

102 Specifically it's Die Niebelungen, a 1931-ish silent movie by Fritz Lang.

Heh...I've got Sigfried and Kriemhild's Revenge on 8mm film.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:40 PM (oVJmc)

103 Nine years old fifty years ago. First time my parents let me stay up late. A mazing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:40 PM (fuK7c)

104 Genetically engineered and domesticated cat girls.
Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019

I assume you mean "cat girls" as in "Batman"not as in the musical and now movie "Cats" which look really creepy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:41 PM (+0VWg)

105 Ben Had--

True. In fact, I compared "Kite Runner" to "Soraya":

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2009/07/15/everybody-must-get-stoned/

(Earlier review of "Kite"):

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2008/01/19/the-kite-runner/

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (CcUfv)

106 If anyone is less looking for a good movie for the kids (and adults), I just discovered a grew anime from 1988 "My neighbor Totoro". Its brilliant, and my daughters new favorite.

Posted by: Bill Rebar at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (Mq6Ea)

107
Bongino is on fire this week.
Posted by: logprof

======

Is he hopping mad, or is he promising that something big is coming soon? I stopped listening to him a while ago.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (13CQC)

108 Anna Puma @ 54- Well, dang. That was different.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (UUkQp)

109 Tuna, Thanks. I will find it.

Arranged is a movie that took a decided Muslim better than Jews slant.

I have to rewatch "Where Do We Go Now".

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (BZzXD)

110 17 "kind of thought we might get a space movie..."

good news! i've thought up what i think might be a winning sci-fi movie. it's akin to those 60's classics like "when worlds collide" or "crack in the world":

the world's richest man (we'll call him zebo) has announced his plan to colonize the moon on a vast scale to utilize its resources for mankind and as a stepping stone to the stars. the world is enthralled with his vision and unites to develop his plan. except there's one problem - the costs of shipping the habitations to the moon would be prohibitive. enter our protagonist: a humanitarian architect who's designed housing units for the poor that are cheap, lightweight and durable (like geodesic domes), and they'll cut the costs to pennies on the dollar. he joins the great endeavor and supervises the construction of hundreds of his structures on the moon. but he gradually is blocked out until he's completely forbidden from his own designs. suspicious, he sneaks into the heavily guarded facilities to find... they contain gigantic rockets! thousands! shocked, our hero races back to earth to confront zebo. what is his secret plan? zebo explains he is going to turn on the rockets and push the moon out of its orbit, further and further from the earth until it flats away. this will cause the earth to wobble drastically, the environment will be in chaos until all life is destroyed! but why??? "because i can", zebo sneers.

the end

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (Pg+x7)

111 I assume you mean "cat girls" as in "Batman"not as in the musical and now movie "Cats" which look really creepy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:41 PM (+0VWg)

*Covers Anna's ears*

More like the Puma Sisters but without the rampaging criminality.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:44 PM (DgSC4)

112 91
86 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

People who weren't born or old enough to have watched the space race on black and white tv maybe can't appreciate how big a thing it was at the time. I remember my dad pointing at the moon saying "There are American's walking around on that thing right now".

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 08:44 PM (K22Va)

113 Tuna--

I think I did see "Osama", and it did piss me off, but I don't see a review on my site. Oh! It was before I started it.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:44 PM (CcUfv)

114 movieque, Thanks, I will go back and reread that.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:45 PM (BZzXD)

115 The worst part of hanging out in the car during the rain delay here at Newton is that we're close to running out of beer . . .

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 08:45 PM (wshbh)

116 Slab Bulkhead!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:35 PM (1ChV0)


Big McLargehuge.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at July 20, 2019 08:45 PM (o9nSg)

117 zebo explains he is going to turn on the rockets
and push the moon out of its orbit, further and further from the earth
until it flats away. this will cause the earth to wobble drastically,
the environment will be in chaos until all life is destroyed! but why???
"because i can", zebo sneers.



the end

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (Pg+x7)


Space 1999: Push the moon out of its orbit and it just drifts away? Hmmm...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:46 PM (1ChV0)

118 ''Tuna, Thanks. I will find it.

Arranged is a movie that took a decided Muslim better than Jews slant.

I have to rewatch "Where Do We Go Now".

Our feminists ought to be made to watch it over and over. On second thought it probably wouldn't make a dent in their smug armor.

Posted by: Tuna at July 20, 2019 08:46 PM (jm1YL)

119
The movie did poorly because it lacks Woke Muslim Tranny Feminists, duh!

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at July 20, 2019 08:48 PM (UFLLM)

120 106 If anyone is less looking for a good movie for the kids (and adults), I just discovered a grew anime from 1988 "My neighbor Totoro". Its brilliant, and my daughters new favorite.
Posted by: Bill Rebar at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (Mq6Ea)

Kiki's Delivery Service.

You'll fucking love it.

Oh, do you like WWI aeroplanes?

Porco Rosso.

Same director.

Again, you'll fucking love it.

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:49 PM (DgSC4)

121 Bill Rebar--

Studio Ghibli is generally good family fare. "Totoro", "Kiki's Delivery Service", "Ponyo", etc. A couple are more older children-oriented, like "Only Yesterday", "Whispers of the Heart", and maybe "Tales from Earthsea" (I haven't seen that one).

Every year there's a "Studio Ghibli Fest" which basically airs one of the movies every month in nationwide screenings, so it's a good family outing, too.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:49 PM (CcUfv)

122 "space 19 whosits whatsits"?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (Pg+x7)

123 I like this Scherie Murray chick running against AOC

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (S7WbR)

124 logprof, I do too.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (BZzXD)

125 drat.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:52 PM (Pg+x7)

126 zebo explains he is going to turn on the rockets
and push the moon out of its orbit, further and further from the earth
until it flats away. this will cause the earth to wobble drastically,
the environment will be in chaos until all life is destroyed! but why???
"because i can", zebo sneers.



the end

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:43 PM (Pg+x7)


Space 1999: Push the moon out of its orbit and it just drifts away? Hmmm...
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:46 PM (1ChV0)

Well...the moon *is* moving further away. Wouldn't it be better to just accelerate its orbit instead of trying to push it away?

Posted by: Robert, doing the same thing over again expecting different results at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (DgSC4)

127 Robert--

It's less fun, but Miyazaki's last film was "The Wind Rises", a kind of mash-up of two Japanese airplane engineers.

It's a weird feeling to be rooting for the guy(s) who made the Zero. But in Miyazaki's way, he's pointing out the tragedy of these guys who loved flight and airplanes, and the only way they had to express it was to build fighters.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (CcUfv)

128 That was a really fun read.

Posted by: m at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (awAkQ)

129 July 69, out of high school 2 years, in the Navy 1 year and the moon landing too. It was a good time.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (UUkQp)

130 I like this Scherie Murray chick running against AOC

There seems to be some concern about her because she apparently had supported A O-C when she ran for the seat before, but maybe it's just that she now sees how bad she is when actually in office. There are about four other R's running-one is some Latino construction fellow, I believe..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (+0VWg)

131 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

Posted by: Quilp


I am not 29 enough to have done that.

"One Small Step," by Ayreon, is a song about being that kid. It's part of a two-disc sci-fi concept album about being the last man on Mars. I think I'll go listen to that, now.

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (P1f+c)

132 I'm watching a young Elizabeth Hurley in an Inspector Morse series and boy there is no resemblance to her as she aged.

Time did a lot for Liz.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (BZzXD)

133 I have no memory of watching the moon landing which was at 4:17pm, I thought the moon walk all these years was early morning but was at 9:5? PM. I remember my mother trying to wake me up to see it so maybe was in bed early.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (BbGew)

134 96; ben safe. no damage to our place. still without power. 100,000 without power here. major storm. craziest one i've seen in awhile. thanks for asking.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (KP5rU)

135 Studio Ghibli is generally good family fare. "Totoro", "Kiki's Delivery Service", "Ponyo", etc. A couple are more older children-oriented, like "Only Yesterday", "Whispers of the Heart", and maybe "Tales from Earthsea" (I haven't seen that one).

Every year there's a "Studio Ghibli Fest" which basically airs one of the movies every month in nationwide screenings, so it's a good family outing, too.
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 08:49 PM (CcUfv)

Almost forgot La Blue Girl and Urotsukidoji.

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 08:55 PM (DgSC4)

136 123 Scherie Murray is a smarter Trojan horse. There are twitters out there of hers that's she's congratulating AOC. she's not any type of republican/conservative.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 20, 2019 08:55 PM (a4qVe)

137 "space 19 whosits whatsits"?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (Pg+x7)



A TV show from the 1970s. There is an explosion on the dark side of the moon where they've been storing nuclear waste the blast acts like a giant propulsion and sends the moon out of earth's orbit and hurling through space. The people trapped on Moonbase Alpha try to survive on the moon.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2019 08:55 PM (1ChV0)

138 124 logprof, I do too.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 08:51 PM (BZzXD)

--If nothing else, she's inoculated against the Race Card. And the Immigrant Card.

Posted by: logprof at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (S7WbR)

139 It's a weird feeling to be rooting for the guy(s) who made the Zero. But in Miyazaki's way, he's pointing out the tragedy of these guys who loved flight and airplanes, and the only way they had to express it was to build fighters.


Very much this, but it was still an odd movie. It was a straight biography, this happened and then that happened and then that. I didn't really get a point from it.

Still fun spending time inside Miyazaki's head.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)

140 Ayreon
Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (P1f+c)

BRO!

*High five*

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (DgSC4)

141 I support anyone who will make trouble for AOC.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 08:57 PM (oVJmc)

142 Slab Bulkhead!
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Big McLargeHuge!

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 08:57 PM (+Tibp)

143

Are there no classic space exploration movies TCM could have put on this weekend? I know they have rights to The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet fer cryin out loud...

instead we get Sleepless in Seattle and Sand in My Vagina Diaries... props for Dirty Dozen, but still...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (UFLLM)

144 There seems to be some concern about her because she apparently had supported A O-C when she ran for the seat before, but maybe it's just that she now sees how bad she is when actually in office.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:53 PM (+0VWg)


I rate that hypothesis as: "Sure ... now, pull the other leg.".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (6fsOH)

145 I was 9 too. Dad was in Nam. Mom and I watched, it was like 4:00 in the morning EST as I recall.

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (UdKB7)

146 I dropped off this thread to talk with parents.

We do have a pawn shop in Longmont but usually I go for the 2nd And Charles in Broomfield-or-is-it-Superior, across the 36.

The pawn shop in Longmont sells DVDs that are sometimes too scratched even to watch.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (ykYG2)

147 Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (KP5rU)

I hope that you and the others get your power back before too long.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (+0VWg)

148 Is that a young Beau Bridges on Svengoolie?

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (+Tibp)

149 I know they have rights to The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet fer cryin out loud...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 08:58 PM (UFLLM)


The Day the Earth Stood Still is a movie that you can only watch once per lifetime.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 08:59 PM (6fsOH)

150 Everyone's Gone to the Moon.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 09:00 PM (Z+IKu)

151

We bought our first TV set to watch the moon mission. My parents were wankers, but did want me to have an education and appreciation for the universe.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (UFLLM)

152 (space 1999. martin landau & barbara bain in a "realistic" sci-fi series. it wasn't bad.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (Pg+x7)

153 Any Kung Foo Fucking?Too many sharp parasols........

Posted by: saf at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (5IHGB)

154 logprof, she would take a leg out of the Squats.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 20, 2019 09:01 PM (BZzXD)

155 Very much this, but it was still an odd movie. It was a straight biography, this happened and then that happened and then that. I didn't really get a point from it.

Still fun spending time inside Miyazaki's head.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 08:56 PM (fuK7c)

Miyazaki took the historical figure and some of the surrounding events and created a fiction around it. Miyazaki has a real fascination with flight and I think he inserted himself into the role somewhat. "If i were an airplane designer I wouldn't want to build it for war!"

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 09:02 PM (DgSC4)

156 Also on Sven is a young Opie Cunningham. He has hair, is marginally more likable than his current self, but still has no soul.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (+Tibp)

157 town about six miles from here really got smoked. looks like a war zone. we got lucky here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (KP5rU)

158 If anyone is less looking for a good movie for the kids (and adults), I just discovered a grew anime from 1988 "My neighbor Totoro". Its brilliant, and my daughters new favorite.

Posted by: Bill Rebar at July 20, 2019 08:42 PM (Mq6Ea)


I was in Japan in '88 when Totoro was coming out.

The commercial was brilliant and like no0thing you'd ever see in America.

The commercial was simply the scene where Totoro is waiting for the Cat Bus in the rain with the girl.

They're just standing in the light rain under umbrellas for about 30 seconds, when suddenly-

Totoro jumps up a bit and lands with a thud that shakes the trees and causes the water held on the leaves to fall in a deluge.

Totoro smiles.

The title screen. And a voice announcing "Totoro".

End of commercial.

I was hooked.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (2EMYr)

159 Chavez - You running on generator, or UPS?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2019 09:03 PM (xSo9G)

160
I've seen The Day the Earth Stood Still several times.

Gort carrying off Patricia Neal and her breastesses gives me space wood...

Posted by: Ken Shabby at July 20, 2019 09:05 PM (UFLLM)

161 One thing I really like about Miyazaki is that he's willing to use silence or quiet in his movies.

In everyone one of his Movies there'll be a major scene, sometimes an action scene, played in near silence.

Kiki's Delivery Service has an especially nice near silent action scene with just the sound of the wind.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:06 PM (2EMYr)

162 Rain has stopped at the Iowa Speedway and they're starting to dry the track. We may see a race afterall!

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM (wshbh)

163 159: ipad, charged off of a jump battery i bought at costco. candles and flashlights. all gas stations around here shut down no power. no gas for generator until tomorrow. most roads around here are closed. just main highways open.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM (KP5rU)

164 133 I have no memory of watching the moon landing which was at 4:17pm, I thought the moon walk all these years was early morning but was at 9:5? PM. I remember my mother trying to wake me up to see it so maybe was in bed early.

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 08:54 PM (BbGew)


Yes, the landing was in the afternoon and there was no live video, but the audio was on both TV and radio.

One thing that has improved since then is that now we have live rocketcams: inexpensive disposable video cameras mounted on the rocket that can provide live views of launches. A lunar module today would certainly carry one to show the approach and descent.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM (sdi6R)

165 If you happen to be living in Albany in 2008, you can have your own Catbus. $2900.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yymgywna

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 09:08 PM (t+qrx)

166 How many of you are old enough to remember this night 50 years ago? I was only 6, but I will never forget it.

Posted by: Quilp

I was 3. so, no. But I do remember the later ones, especially 17.

It was years later that I learned my dear departed grandpa was an engineer/machinist for Apollo 1 thru 13, contracted out from Boeing. His area was the heat shields.

I watched Apollo 13 with him and my dad (so many years ago), and Grandpa said, "the young fella playing Mr. Krantz is very good, but Mr. Krantz never cussed."

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 09:09 PM (aurSP)

167 Rain has stopped at the Iowa Speedway and they're starting to dry the track. We may see a race afterall!
Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM

Put on semi wets and go racing

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:09 PM (BbGew)

168 hi Fenelon!

I'm attending a (belated) memorial for my grandparents in a few weeks. They're having me recite kaddish (which I knew I'd be doing when I heard about it). I've been trying to get information on whether I'd be speaking it, singing it; or in English or Aramaic. Because Aramaic ain't exactly my first language and, if it IS Aramaic, I'd have to rehearse.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:10 PM (ykYG2)

169
CtH glad you are Ok, and as I recall the others were too? I was sitting in Papeete airport trying to follow the live action. Tornadoes are scary.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at July 20, 2019 09:10 PM (UFLLM)

170 The weather is funky as hell. Woke up this morning to another scorcher, but by 2pm the temps had dropped 15 degrees and the humidity skyrocketed.

It's now a misty rain with soaker clouds overhead. Reminds me of Alaska, or 1993 in Montana, when the jet stream split.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 09:12 PM (aurSP)

171 Smithsonian channel is showing a documentary on moon landing

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:12 PM (BbGew)

172 167 Rain has stopped at the Iowa Speedway and they're starting to dry the track. We may see a race afterall! 
Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:07 PM 

Put on semi wets and go racing

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:09 PM (BbGew)

Good idea, but I don't think they do that on ovals.


Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:12 PM (wshbh)

173 My dad was talking the Apollo missions, and how awesome it was that the Americans got all their astronauts BACK HOME.

I mooted that Apollo 13 was the high point - because it 'failed'. They learnt so much about how their own spacecraft worked (or didn't work) that the 14-17 missions got a lot more bang for the buck. To the point of running around on the lunar surface with the rovers.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:13 PM (ykYG2)

174 Also appearing on Sven is the kid from the Rifleman. They make him wear a cowboy hat. This movie is awful.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:14 PM (+Tibp)

175 Also appearing on Sven is the kid from the Rifleman. They make him wear a cowboy hat. This movie is awful.
Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:14 PM (+Tibp)

Hey. You're watching Village of the Giants!

You need to see MST 3ks sendup of this one. It's classic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 20, 2019 09:15 PM (aurSP)

176 Thought thats the point why Sven is showing it

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 09:15 PM (BbGew)

177 Currently, I'm watching the Takashi Miike movie-

"TerraFormars"

It's an anime based live action movie about Japanese astronauts send to destroy highly evolved cockroach humanoids using INSECT POWERS!!!!!1111!!!.

Typical Miike in that it's both crazy violent and well...crazy.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:15 PM (2EMYr)

178 the battery back up on my modem is about to crash. maybe use my phone or say adios. third world problem, i guess. at least the storms are over.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:16 PM (KP5rU)

179 Stay safe CtH, will be praying!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at July 20, 2019 09:17 PM (a4qVe)

180 173
I mooted that Apollo 13 was the high point - because it 'failed'. They learnt so much about how their own spacecraft worked (or didn't work) that the 14-17 missions got a lot more bang for the buck. To the point of running around on the lunar surface with the rovers.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:13 PM (ykYG2)


Yeah, but I think Apollo 13 scared the hell out of the politicians and probably the NASA managers as well. They knew that it was only a matter of time before they lost a crew and it probably contributed to the cancellation of the Apollo program.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:17 PM (sdi6R)

181 Those stupid Americans, losing the space shuttle. Soviet scientists are best scientists. Energy production up 23% near Kiev!

Posted by: the Soviet Politburo, February 1986 at July 20, 2019 09:19 PM (ykYG2)

182 "You're watching Village of the Giants! "

Is that the one with the giant fake Jeff Bridges legs?

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 09:20 PM (UdKB7)

183 Holy buckets! The sheriff in the Sven movie is Joe Turkel! Played the ghost bartender in Shining. Played the creator of the skin jobs in Blade Runner. Was also in Paths of Glory. Jiminy.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:20 PM (+Tibp)

184 Has anyone seen Midsommar?

I'm curious but the same director also did last year's Hereditary which was boring as fuck and derivative, although it had a couple of moments of inspiration.

The director strikes me as in if those filmmakers whose only source of inspiration and artistic reference is other films.

Posted by: Robert, delightful scamp at July 20, 2019 09:21 PM (DgSC4)

185 Yeah, but I think Apollo 13 scared the hell out of the politicians and probably the NASA managers as well. They knew that it was only a matter of time before they lost a crew and it probably contributed to the cancellation of the Apollo program.

That's the wrong way around of looking about this. Apollo killed 3, Columbia and Challenger killed 7. The harsh climate of Mars will probably kill a high number.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (LxTcq)

186 You need to see MST 3ks sendup of this one. It's classic.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Sir, I am in your debt. I didn't know it got the MST3K treatment.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (+Tibp)

187 "Midsommar"

Wicker Man in Swedish but without Nicolas Cage. Pretty stupid. Amusing orgy scene.

I rate it three wieners out of five.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (ykYG2)

188 I sometimes get Miike mixed up with "Grudge"-director Takashi Shimizu, because I thought Miike directed "Rinne" (Reincarnation) which I really liked.

Apparently Shimizu directed a live action KIKI!!! =8-0

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (CcUfv)

189 One of the best movies about the Apollo mission is:

For All Mankind

It's a mashup of all the Apollo missions, each one taking over at the point at which it pushed further than the mission before, but done seamlessly.

NASA contracted Eno to do the score. Awesome.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:23 PM (6fsOH)

190 "You're watching Village of the Giants! "


There are no villages, except-

"The Village of the Damned"


Am I the only one that liked Carpenter's remake?

In some ways it was better than the Limey original.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:23 PM (2EMYr)

191 33 31 Kung-fu Hustle, can't forget that. Or most of Jackie Chan's movies. Or can we?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2019 08:06 PM (cH3lq)


I LOVE Kung-fu Hustle.

Posted by: Insomniac


the land lady in kung fu hustle is one of the two catholic school girls from 007 the man with the golden gun. in the scene with the karate studio where the master wants to teach bond a lesson, he escapes and the local secret agent with his two school girls rescue hom. the girl with the short curly hair is the land lady in kung fu hustle.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at July 20, 2019 09:23 PM (VcFUs)

192 Beau Bridges I mean. That is one dumb movie. They blew the special effects budget on those ugly ass giant legs.

Posted by: freaked at July 20, 2019 09:24 PM (UdKB7)

193 185
That's the wrong way around of looking about this. Apollo killed 3, Columbia and Challenger killed 7. The harsh climate of Mars will probably kill a high number.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (LxTcq)


You're absolutely right. Somebody ought to write a book about it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6lmqmox

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

194 The earlier missions like Mercury were exciting as hell to me. Crammed into that little capsule not sure if they would burn up re-entering. There would be radio silence as the Navy waited to pick them up. Then all of a sudden the capsule chutes would open and it would splash down. Navy frogmen would chase it down and jump in to inflate a flotation ring around it. One time almost drowned the astronauts. Very exciting to this kid.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:25 PM (K22Va)

195 willowed:

349 295 I have no recollection of watching the first moon landing, certainly was old enough but no idea what I was doing.
Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2019 07:12 PM

I remember it vividly - I was 10 years old (giving away my age) and it was just about dusk in Arizona, my younger brother and sister were out playing in the yard. I remember going out and yelling at them to quit screwing around and GET IN HERE AND WATCH THIS because THIS IS IMPORTANT!!! My parents were amused that I was so dogmatic.

50 years ago, I already had no doubt whatsoever that this was going to be the most Historic and Important thing I was ever going to witness in my life, no matter how long I lived.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2019 09:25 PM (V2Yro)

196 That's the wrong way around of looking about this. Apollo killed 3, Columbia and Challenger killed 7. The harsh climate of Mars will probably kill a high number.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (LxTcq)


The public has no problem accepting the obvious fact that exploration requires risk and often ends in death. It's only the politicians who can't deal with this. Of course, these same politicians can't fight a war the right way or deal with actual traitors correctly, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:26 PM (6fsOH)

197 I appreciate Japanese cinema, but have grown to like Korean more. I understand Korean motives better than Japanese.

Also, the Koreans HATE the Japanese, while the Japanese hate everyone else.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:27 PM (+Tibp)

198 naturalfake--

I liked the JC version of "Village of the Damned". But he's really more of a western director than a horror director, and I feel like that helps for 90% of the movie, except the end.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:27 PM (CcUfv)

199 Watched "Eat Local" free on prime last night. A vampire horror comedy. I was hoping it was going to be somewhat like "What We Do in the Shadows," but nah.

I found it boring and I was rooting for the vampires to die.

Posted by: Gem at July 20, 2019 09:27 PM (XoAz8)

200 178
the battery back up on my modem is about to crash. maybe use my phone or
say adios. third world problem, i guess. at least the storms are over.

Do you have a USB port in your car?

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:28 PM (K22Va)

201 I sometimes get Miike mixed up with "Grudge"-director Takashi Shimizu, because I thought Miike directed "Rinne" (Reincarnation) which I really liked.

Apparently Shimizu directed a live action KIKI!!! =8-0
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:22 PM (CcUfv)


I'll have to keep on the lookout for "RINNE".

I thought "The Grudge" was a very well done horror movie.


Miike did "Audition" among many others movies.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:29 PM (2EMYr)

202 My two favorite Kung Fu movies are Kung Fu Hustle and Ninja Assassin. Two totally different style of Kung Fu movie.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:30 PM (2DOZq)

203 . . . and now it's drizzling again at the Iowa Speedway. Crap.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 20, 2019 09:31 PM (wshbh)

204 Is Ringu better than The Ring? I liked The Ring.

Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)

205 One time almost drowned the astronauts.


Gus Grissom. Scuttlebutt is that he panicked and blew his hatch too soon. It did sink his capsule. He lived, for a while.

They named the next capsule the Unsinkable Molly Brown.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (fuK7c)

206 200: nope. everything but that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (KP5rU)

207 I watched a documentary on high altitude ballooning which definitely helped with the space missions.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)

208 Thanks for the movie suggestion, will look up 'Shadow'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (xJa6I)

209 the Koreans HATE the Japanese

I do see their point. The US helped them rebuild, ensured general Korean literacy, and so the Koreans as a people were able to learn their own history. Which the Japanese ...

... well, they'd not been QUITE so magnanimous when they were protecting their 'little brothers'.

So when the Koreans learnt exactly what had almost been permanently taken from them, I could see how they'd feel betrayed.

[And then there were all the 1930s-40s rapes of course.]

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:36 PM (ykYG2)

210 Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)

I liked Let Me In better than the Swedish? version.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:37 PM (2DOZq)

211 Zigeunerweisen

https://youtu.be/qsB-A04vfAo

Kung Fu Hustle chase at 6:48

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:37 PM (LxTcq)

212 because the sort of super-heroic character implicit in the flying hero would've undermined the need for a solid battle strategy.
-----------------------

I've been watching a Chinese series on Netflix that has an interesting take on the hero-type of character. It's called "King's War", and it's about the fall of the Qin Dynasty and the establishment of the Han Dynasty. The primary contrast in the series is between two different leads. On the one hand, you've got Xiang Yu, who is the heroic-type who leads from the front and almost single-handedly turns back enemy armies (played by Peter Ho, who also played the very similar - albeit less successful - Lu Bu in "Three Kingdoms"). Heroic in this instance doesn't necessarily mean he's a nice guy. But he's a valiant warrior who's very, very good at fighting battles.

His counter-part is Liu Bang, whose surname you might recognize if you're familiar with the Three Kingdoms era (there's a rather obvious reason for that...). He's not a coward. But he's also not the absolute combat monster that Xiang Yu is. And part of the dynamic of the series is watching the development of the two characters. On the one hand, you have the heroic and headstrong Xiang Yu, whom everyone expects great things from. On the other hand, you have the more unassuming Liu Bang. Yes, he started out as a farmer. But he's loyal to his friends. And between this loyalty and his not so obvious intelligence, leadership, and eye for talent, he ends up being repeatedly underestimated by those who aren't personally close to him.

At one point, the campaign has ended, and a respected veteran leaves gets his discharge from Xiang Yu's army. He promptly joins Liu Bang's army because, as he puts it, Xiang Yu is the hero, and he doesn't need anyone else. That's not the case with Liu Bang.


Incidentally, one of the scenes (which is based off of an historical incident) has Liu Bang escorting some prisoners to a Qin work camp for a manual labor assignment. A few of the prisoners escape on the way. And since the punishment for escaping prisoners is the execution of *everyone* in the party...

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:37 PM (Fp6vo)

213 I remember collecting all of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo mission badges. When I was young, I knew the names of every mission.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 20, 2019 09:38 PM (V2Yro)

214 The Koreans take their revenge in Japan by owning all the Pachinko betting parlors.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:38 PM (2DOZq)

215 well, that looks like a hot mess.

Posted by: Keto not Beto at July 20, 2019 09:39 PM (JziUy)

216 Gus Grissom. Scuttlebutt is that he panicked and blew his hatch too soon. It did sink his capsule. He lived, for a while.

Tough way to go. Those guys were badasses.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:40 PM (K22Va)

217
Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)

read the book
watch the film
watched the Hollywood remake

they are all good

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 09:42 PM (dm05u)

218 Japanese manga and anime is sold to a foreign market, so although there be an element of Japanese patriotism, the writers tend not to piss off the rest of the world too much.

I've noticed the supporting characters tend to the multiracial, at least in terms of hapa Japanese-European mixes. As long ago as Space Battleship Yamato [Star Bl00zrs] this was the case.

A lot of manga is full-on European : Attack On Titan, Tanya The Evil etc. Especially the 'isekai' genre. The Japanese do like their blondes. . .

One exception is "Gate: Where The JSDF Fought". That was overtly nationalistic.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:43 PM (ykYG2)

219 Is Ringu better than The Ring? I liked The Ring.

Conversely I've not seen "Let Me In" but I did like "Lat den ratte komma in". Is the English version any good?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:32 PM (ykYG2)


I think "Ringu" is much better than "The Ring".

Admittedly, I saw "Ringu" first not knowing anything about it.

And, man, did the big reveal scene creep me out.

In "The Ring" they keep cutting back and forth between the big reveal and some other stuff, like an action movie. That undercuts the horror.

The American version of ""Lat den ratte komma in" is okay.

It's problem is that the screen writer and director don't seem to understand the story.

The original is subtle but makes it clear by the end that the girl is simply looking for another minion to replace her old one.

And that the boy has become her slave.

In the American version, They're off for Wacky Vampire Adventures!!!

It's not a story of liberation but enslavement.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:44 PM (2EMYr)

220 "Yeah, but I think Apollo 13 scared the hell out of the politicians and
probably the NASA managers as well. They knew that it was only a matter
of time before they lost a crew and it probably contributed to the
cancellation of the Apollo program."
The politicians were only interested in beating the Soviets and demonstrating the power of American government. The Apollo program was being wound down even before Armstrong set foot on the moon.

https://tinyurl.com/y5gkyzja

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at July 20, 2019 09:45 PM (U1ZWs)

221 That Grissom, always splashing and playing in the water.

https://stoatnet.org/a1pool.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at July 20, 2019 09:46 PM (t+qrx)

222 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:46 PM (LxTcq)

223 naturalflake @ 219- If that little boy ever goes to sleep around her he'll quickly find out what kind of friends the are.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (UUkQp)

224 I watched a documentary on high altitude ballooning which definitely helped with the space missions.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)


Was it the ESPN 30-for-30 about Nick Piantanida (Angry Sky)? That was a good show. Very interesting guy. A one-man space program.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (6fsOH)

225 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts

Those three lads who went under Chernobyl to turn the water off might want a word with you.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:48 PM (ykYG2)

226 Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:44 PM (2EMYr)

also, iirc the Hollywood version doesn't make clear the little girl is not a girl

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 09:48 PM (dm05u)

227 In the movie Commando Cody and Radar Men from the Moon, Commando Cody goes to the moon to see what the Radar Men are up to.

He's the first guy to ever go to the moon, so this is a big whoop, right?

When he returns, he is met by.......2 cops in a squad car !

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (arJlL)

228 In the American version, They're off for Wacky Vampire Adventures!!!

It's not a story of liberation but enslavement.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2019 09:44 PM (2EMYr)

That's not the vibe I got at all.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (2DOZq)

229
There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts

....

Those three lads who went under Chernobyl to turn the water off might want a word with you.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo



Garrett Smith as the Three Mile Island maid-janitor would like a word with you.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (qe9rM)

230 207 I watched a documentary on high altitude ballooning which definitely helped with the space missions.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:33 PM (2DOZq)


This is a very good book about those 1950s and 60s balloon programs.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyvsszey

Yes, they certainly did influence the design of space suits and pressure vessels. They also more or less invented the concept of "Mission Control" on the ground directing the flight. Before that, aviators were more like solo adventurers doing whatever they wanted.

Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2019 09:49 PM (sdi6R)

231 boulder t'hobo--

I've heard that the American "Let The Right One In" is okay but not as good as the original.

I think the first movie review I posted here this year was about the patriotic Korean underground movement to save the language. I recommend it.

Mal-Mo-E: The Secret Mission

http://moviegique.com/index.php/2019/03/09/mal-mo-e-the-secret-mission/

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:50 PM (CcUfv)

232 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 20, 2019 09:46 PM (LxTcq)


Your average pioneer family who went west was just as brave. And they didn't get any fame or glory, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:51 PM (6fsOH)

233 There's never been anyone braver than Apollo astronauts

....

Those three lads who went under Chernobyl to turn the water off might want a word with you.



Pffff.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell's Gynocologist at July 20, 2019 09:51 PM (oVJmc)

234 I interpreted the Swede version that, indeed, the vampire had got him/her self a new host to parasite off of.

I'll have to watch the Hollywood version at some point, because, like I said, I haven't yet.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:52 PM (ykYG2)

235 @209 I do see their point. The US helped them rebuild, ensured general Korean literacy, and so the Koreans as a people were able to learn their own history. Which the Japanese ...

... well, they'd not been QUITE so magnanimous when they were protecting their 'little brothers'.

----------------------

There's a Korean series on Netflix that is illuminating on this account. It's called "Mr. Sunshine", and it's primarily set in Korea during the first decade of the 20th Century. The male lead was a boy who was born as a slave in Korea, escaped to the US, joined the Marines (and fought in the Philippines during the Spanish-American War), and has now returned to Korea as a captain on assignment with the US legation. The rising power of Japan in Korea is one of the constant themes of the show, with increasing levels of brutality and contempt toward the native Korean population as time goes on in the series. If you don't know why Koreans dislike the Japanese, you will after watching this series.

One interesting thing about the series is that even though it's a Korean show set in Korea, everyone speaks in the appropriate language. So if two Korean-speakers are talking, they speak in Korean. If two Americans are speaking, the spoken dialog is in English. If a Japanese character is speaking with another Asian character, they speak in Japanese. There's even a French character who has a few lines here and there in French.

The version of the show on American Netflix has English sub-titles where appropriate.

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:52 PM (Fp6vo)

236

Garrett Smith as the Three Mile Island maid-janitor would like a word with you.



Garrett Morris?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

237 I read a review of Chernobyl that claimed that the three guys that went to shut the water off (or on, I don't remember which) was totally made up. Never happened. Bummed me out.

Also, it claimed the Bridge of Death was baloney.

Posted by: Blutarski at July 20, 2019 09:54 PM (+Tibp)

238
Garrett Morris?


Senile.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 20, 2019 09:54 PM (qe9rM)

239 Was it the ESPN 30-for-30 about Nick Piantanida (Angry Sky)? That was a good show. Very interesting guy. A one-man space program.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (6fsOH)

No not that one. I think the doc was called Spacemen .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 09:54 PM (2DOZq)

240 the Bridge Of Death was bullshit but I think those three guys were real, or real-enough.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:55 PM (ykYG2)

241 >>>
Your average pioneer family who went west was just as brave. And they didn't get any fame or glory, either.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:51 PM (6fsOH)
---

They got a nation.

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 09:55 PM (c8xLq)

242 anyway, Vlad Pooty Poot says he is going to finance a new Chernobyl movie that will totally tell the real story.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (ykYG2)

243 Garrett Morris?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

When SNL was funny. Garret Morris on the news segment asked the question of the Rolling Stone's "Some Girls" and the black women who like to hump all night.....

Where is these women at?......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (Z+IKu)

244 @218 Japanese manga and anime is sold to a foreign market, so although there be an element of Japanese patriotism, the writers tend not to piss off the rest of the world too much.

---------------------

Depends to an extent on the writer. For instance, I strongly suspect that Shirow Masamune (Ghost in the Shell, Appleseed, etc...) doesn't like the US all that much. American appearances in the manga tend to be unflattering at best (particularly in Appleseed). And in the Ghost in the Shell manga, the sole Soviet appearance was fairly friendly.

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (Fp6vo)

245 Was it the ESPN 30-for-30 about Nick Piantanida (Angry Sky)? That was a good show. Very interesting guy. A one-man space program.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 09:47 PM (6fsOH)

ESPN 300 for 30

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (/0HPZ)

246 Hairyback--

The great setup for that bit was that it looked like it was going to be a rant about racism.

But the =funny= was way more important than the =woke= back then.

Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (CcUfv)

247 I never did like that Tang crap or sputnik candy with the little beads in it.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (K22Va)

248 there's a Hollywood vampire movie, with a different premise and plot,that nonetheless reminded me of " Lat den ratte komma in"
Byzantium with Saoirse Ronan & Gemma Aterton
I think it was the sense of the unending bleakness of a vampire 's unlife

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (dm05u)

249 I never did like that Tang crap or sputnik candy with the little beads in it.

Did the beads come out in yer poop ?

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (arJlL)

250 never did like that Tang crap

Well screw you.

Posted by: empress wu at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (ykYG2)

251 Remember SPACE FOOD STICKS?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (oVJmc)

252 @250 never did like that Tang crap

Well screw you.
Posted by: empress wu at July 20, 2019 09:58 PM (ykYG2)

-------------------

You apparently didn't like the Tang, either, since you changed the dynasty name to Jin when you took the throne...

Posted by: junior at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (Fp6vo)

253 I think it was the sense of the unending bleakness of a vampire 's unlife

"Ho-hum, another day, another neck"

Posted by: JT at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (arJlL)

254 Did the beads come out in yer poop ?

Forgot to look.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (K22Va)

255 anyway, Vlad Pooty Poot says he is going to finance a new Chernobyl movie that will totally tell the real story.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 20, 2019 09:56 PM (ykYG2)


Chernobyl Diaries was a fun movie. I liked the tour guide ... while he lasted.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (6fsOH)

256 never did like that Tang crap or sputnik candy with the little beads in it.
Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (K22Va)

Heh. Right now Tang is my crack drink. The liquid Tang Orange-pineapple flavor. That's all I drink.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (2DOZq)

257 Ovaltine > Tang

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (dm05u)

258 >>>Did the beads come out in yer poop ?

Forgot to look.

Posted by: dartist at July 20, 2019 09:59 PM (K22Va)


Ghandi never forgot.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (6fsOH)

259 Up too late so it's hasta huevos mis amigos.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2019 10:01 PM (UUkQp)

260 In the American version, They're off for Wacky Vampire Adventures!!!

I don't know how you reached that conclusion. The ending was disturbing and sad because it was clear he was now trapped into serving the vampire, just as his predecessor had.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (NWiLs)

261 Ovaltine > Tang

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at July 20, 2019 10:00 PM (dm05u)


Bzzzt!

Ovaltine was something you fed birds you didn't like.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2019 10:02 PM (6fsOH)

262 Then along came Barky, eclipsing every single thing ever.

Posted by: klaftern at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (RuIsu)

263 The great setup for that bit was that it looked like it was going to be a rant about racism.
But the =funny= was way more important than the =woke= back then.
Posted by: moviegique at July 20, 2019 09:57 PM (CcUfv)

Exactly right! Garrett made me laugh when he took his glasses off and asked that question.

Funny guy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 20, 2019 10:05 PM (Z+IKu)

264 SpaceLab was the next step, put that together then leap frog farther. But they hated Nixon were loath for his name to be associated with it.

The commies (Dems, WaPo, NYT) hated Nixon because he busted Hiss. They said we spend all this money on space and nothing for the poor.

Defunded.

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 10:07 PM (c8xLq)

265 Fearless Vampire Killers

Posted by: Peking Loe at July 20, 2019 10:09 PM (c8xLq)

266 I thought House of Flying Daggers had some neat visual stuff, but very few likeable characters and that sort of vague, hand-wavey aspect of "yeah sure this is... yeah... some time in the past... or some shit like that" that seems to get amplified by modern Chinese political concerns.


Now, that's not to say films from other markets don't have the same deal; it's common from Bollywood, plus I'm sure we can all name off a dozen tropey medieval-ey Hollywood efforts - but the Chinese entertainment is already facing an uphill battle with a lot of off-putting cultural things that sometimes come through in their work.

Occasionally I see Chinese revenge plots and think of that episode of South Park where Cartman kills a kid's parents and feeds them to him. Like, hey, this lady slighted me at a banquet, so lets burn her house down, frame her for murder, and poison all of her maids. That sort of thing. And you're obviously expected to cheer them on.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at July 21, 2019 03:16 AM (67XdO)

267 "Weaponized umbrellas? Then we shall fight in the shade!"

Posted by: Socratease at July 21, 2019 11:49 AM (2GbWn)

268 I am begging for help from y'all knowledgeable movie folk.. I can not think of nor find the title of a movie (B/W, maybe) showing a dinner party going on in a house where outside there appears to be a battle. The guest have to duck live-fire, bombs, and explosions on their way into the house but there is no mention of the warfare once they are inside. Please, if you know what this movie is called, let me know. Thank you.

Posted by: Celestial Allan at July 21, 2019 04:50 PM (TmYT+)

269 Do you think there's a troll under that bridge?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 21, 2019 06:54 PM (FLiOE)

270 Celestial Allan,

I don't know of any such film and I don't see anything matching that on IMDB. But if you can provide more details, I'd be interested in locating it/seeing it.

Posted by: moviegique at July 23, 2019 11:08 AM (CcUfv)

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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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