Is "Rub And A Tug" Back On The Table In South Florida?<br>What A Surprise: The Cops Bungled The Kraft Sting...

Is "Rub And A Tug" Back On The Table In South Florida?
What A Surprise: The Cops Bungled The Kraft Sting...

The more laws we have, the more power government has. That is axiomatic for people with functioning brains, and here is a fine example of the problems unbridled government power can cause. Whether you think prostitution is victimless crime, the overreach by law enforcement in this case is obscene.

'Bungled from the beginning': How Robert Kraft's sex sting was marred by cops' missteps

Officials said their efforts were aimed in part at targeting suspected human trafficking at the massage parlors. They pointed to state health department inspections suggesting that sex workers from Asia were living at the businesses.
“Obviously our concern in this investigation centers around … the possibility of victims of human trafficking, the appearance of that,” Jupiter Police Chief Daniel Kerr said in February, adding that customers enable such illicit businesses to “flourish.”
State Attorney Dave Aronberg called human trafficking “evil in our midst,” adding that there is “the cold reality that many prostitutes in cases like this are themselves victims, often lured into this country with promises of a better life.”
But Aronberg’s office walked back the claims, telling Kraft’s judge that there was no evidence of human trafficking. It was just misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution charges for the men, and felony charges of making money from prostitution for the women.
Officials have said they hoped the sex workers would cooperate with investigators so they could bring more serious charges. That didn’t happen.

I love how the case went from uncovering a vast network of human traffickers -- modern day slavers -- to a hugely expensive and failed sting to rout out hand-jobs!

And gee...maybe these women didn't feel like cooperating because they sort of liked being in the United States instead of some third-world shithole.

And it sounds like somebody lied to the judge to get the warrant, because they admitted that there is no evidence of human trafficking!

The really sad part of this sordid mess is that without Kraft's involvement, which meant an unlimited defense fund, the cops would probably have gotten away with their lies and baldfaced unconstitutional behavior. If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

Posted by: CBD at 02:25 PM

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1 At least they don't have to worry about the batteries going kaput.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 02:29 PM (Ct55T)

2 Release the video!.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 02:30 PM (Z+IKu)

3 B4 10

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 02:31 PM (pw+jk)

4 But they were quick to release Kraft's name to the media.

And the media was quick to smear him, because, famous.

Government and Media conspiring to destroy individual US Citizens.

Why does that sound so... familiar... Flynn cough cough...

Posted by: Don Q at May 19, 2019 02:32 PM (NgKpN)

5 If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

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Sums up how we got Trump perfectly.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 02:35 PM (RU4sa)

6 I thought Kraft was specifically targeted because the 'spa' owner was Friend of Trump?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (smQOA)

7 Is State Atty. Dave Aronberg a demunist?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:38 PM (smQOA)

8 6 I thought Kraft was specifically targeted because the 'spa' owner was Friend of Trump?
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (smQO

If memory serves, the trump angle was played up in the very first reports coming out. Thought it was because Kraft was a trump supporter himself or something

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (Ct55T)

9 Do they use shape oil for their massage lube? Quicker State?

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (WETLn)

10 Shale oil, dammit!

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:40 PM (WETLn)

11 They - cops- installed the cameras on a pretext. Had they already established that Kraft was a regular there?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:41 PM (smQOA)

12 12
What killed this? The pictures of nude women getting rubs and the thought these asshole cops were watching them too.

Expect lawsuits to multiply. These are keystone cops at the best.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:42 PM (u3dHb)

13 Law enforcement in general really doesn't seem to be worth a rat's ass, does it?

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I ain't recommending shit at the moment at May 19, 2019 02:43 PM (lLeln)

14 8 Yes, he is. But the spa owner was a DJT donor and there's a pic of her with POTUS at Mar-a-lago.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:43 PM (smQOA)

15 6
I thought Kraft was specifically targeted because the 'spa' owner was Friend of Trump?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (smQOA)

Nah, they didn't even know his man, but I suspect when a guy leaves a spa with a chauffeured Bentley, the cops were curious.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (u3dHb)

16 When Handjobs are illegal, something something something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (ycWCI)

17 If these a-holes really want to stop sex trafficking, then why don't they start supporting serious fixes to our immigration laws instead of supporting lawless "sanctuary" cities and states?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (k4dH2)

18 >>>Officials said their efforts were aimed in part at targeting suspected human trafficking at the massage parlors. They pointed to state health department inspections suggesting that sex workers from Asia were living at the businesses.

Back when this story first broke it was what, a multi-month investigation into sex slavery and how they would move the girls to different locations every week or so...

Bull shit.

If that was true, and the cops watched this going on for months, them Trump must be a RUSSIAN agent too.

Now, meh, not so much. Unauthorized wiring of the place with cameras, etc. expecting the slaves to turn states witness after finding out cops were making peep-holes vids for posting on pronhamster for months?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 02:45 PM (1g7ch)

19 If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

Ah yes.. and it is broken
The prosecutors have to much leeway and money and it is not their money. If the prosecutors actually had somethIng to lose things might change

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:45 PM (Y+V3r)

20 The warrant allowed for the placement of cameras in the hand job rooms.

How making ~~sex~~ blackmail tapes leads to knowledge of human trafficking is beyond me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (fuK7c)

21 Ah yes.. and it is broken

The prosecutors have to much leeway and money and it is not their
money. If the prosecutors actually had somethIng to lose things might
change

There is a reason Soro is targeting State DA races. He knows the DAs have unlimited funds and can sue Republicans to death.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (u3dHb)

22 Any suggestion that this was motivated by urge to nail Kraft because he was Trump's friend, and to somehow implicate Trump?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (H8QX8)

23 Jesus GARY Sanchez got a triple lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:48 PM (Y+V3r)

24
Any suggestion that this was motivated by urge to nail Kraft because he was Trump's friend, and to somehow implicate Trump?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (H8QX

Would not shock me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (Y+V3r)

25 I'm not super fond of the defense team's work either: clearly Kraft was guilty of soliciting prostitution, he even freaking admitted it in an apology. But they got him free of charges because of a litany of technical things and I hate that. There's no justice if you can skate on a crime you admit to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (39g3+)

26 I'm not super fond of the defense team's work either: clearly Kraft was guilty of soliciting prostitution, he even freaking admitted it in an apology. But they got him free of charges because of a litany of technical things and I hate that. There's no justice if you can skate on a crime you admit to.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (39g3+)

It was only a handjob. Does not the gov have better things to do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (Y+V3r)

27 Is anyone on the planet surprised the media is a huge lump of rat vomit? Course not. I am astonished that the police department and prosecutors chose to make a very powerful enemy on very little evidence. It's a perfect opportunity for the Trump DoJ to start making some arrests for malicious prosecution, conspiracy to libel, and perjury.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (SEr2U)

28 How making sex blackmail tapes leads to knowledge of human trafficking is beyond me.

Yeah I'm not making that connection, either. The fact that sexual activity is happening is not evidence of human trafficking, you're not getting anywhere with that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (39g3+)

29 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (aXucN)

30 The sidebar has a link to linguists claiming the word "lox" goes back 8K years. I'm surprised they had liquid oxygen back then. Would Vic know?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (DMUuz)

31 Yeah, it never made sense to say that 'We discovered enslaved women but we will let their bondage continue for months so we can arrest a few Johns.'

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (yQpMk)

32 OK Aronberg is demonrat. This sting was intended to smear Trump - by association with lady spa owner - with sex trafficking charges. It was their dumb luck they hooked another bigger fish - Kraft - in the process. But ultimately their downfall because the billionaire's deep pockets exposed the LE scam.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (smQOA)

33 I'm not a fan of anything NE Patriots but the idea that Kraft's lawyers had to fight to keep private a tape of him getting a hand job is obscene.

What pressing public need is there to publish that kind of stuff?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (/tuJf)

34 Let loose the kraften!

Posted by: JuJuBee at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (kQ8nA)

35 Frank Zappa Magic Fingers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7v3QCHR0hU

"And beat you with a pair of tennis shoes I got from Jeff Beck..."

Posted by: pawn at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (ti2yD)

36 lol bluebell

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (RU4sa)

37 The sidebar has a link to linguists claiming the word "lox" goes back 8K years. I'm surprised they had liquid oxygen back then. Would Vic know?

Aliens. Chariots of the Cods.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (yQpMk)

38 Trump's Midas touch strikes again!

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:53 PM (smQOA)

39 What pressing public need is there to publish that kind of stuff?

Its hard to believe that a jury has to be shown the tapes in order to get a conviction. Nobody on earth wants to see that to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:53 PM (39g3+)

40 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM

Perhaps maple syrup will be revealed to be more versatile than previously known.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:53 PM (DMUuz)

41
Me rub you rong time!

You cum 4 times, you leave now!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 02:54 PM (nxw5n)

42 Four Super Bowl rings -- maybe the cops should leave the guy alone.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 02:54 PM (ta49A)

43 marred by cops' missteps

"Guilty as sin, free as a bird."

Posted by: Bill Ayers at May 19, 2019 02:54 PM (sdi6R)

44 Robert Kraft.

The Cheese Investigation!

Posted by: Capt. Queeg at May 19, 2019 02:55 PM (t5m5e)

45 >>The really sad part of this sordid mess is that without Kraft's involvement, which meant an unlimited defense fund, the cops would probably have gotten away with their lies and baldfaced unconstitutional behavior. If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

I'm probably too cynical, but it kinda seems like getting Kraft was the whole point?

They wanted to embarrass him at minimum, and could potentially have been used by the NFL bully him into selling or some other form of penance. Goodell hates the Pats, they hate Trump, and Kraft is friendly with Trump.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:55 PM (W+vEI)

46 Forty dolla,
Make you holla!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 02:55 PM (0tfLf)

47 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.

It's barbecue season.

If you're honest with yourself, you know you'd be exited to learn about a butt rub.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (oFlMR)

48 Using geometric logic, I was able to prove that a duplicate whore existed!

Posted by: Capt. Queeg at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (t5m5e)

49 To be fair, Kraft has so many Super Bowl rings on his fapping hand he needs hired hands.

Posted by: Wontsubmit at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (Xgl0T)

50 I just back to the last thread

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (BbGew)

51 I thought the NE Patriots - and presumably their owner, Kraft - were "woke."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

52 30 The sidebar has a link to linguists claiming the word "lox" goes back 8K years. I'm surprised they had liquid oxygen back then.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (DMUuz)

Told you!

Posted by: Erich von Daniken at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (sdi6R)

53 If cops would have used SWAT and shot some people and dogs in the process the raid would have yielded more justice.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (Si9ix)

54 I heard a couple of weeks ago this case was going belly up but that was all I remember

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (BbGew)

55 >>Four Super Bowl rings -- maybe the cops should leave the guy alone.

Much as it pains me to say it, 6 Super Bowl rings.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (/tuJf)

56 I thought the NE Patriots - and presumably their owner, Kraft - were "woke."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (YqDXo)
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I believe Kraft is a Trump supporter and friend and therefore ungood.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (aXucN)

57 Kraft is friendly with Trump.

OK, I didn't know that. I'd presumed that someone from Boston who owns a team that is markedly opposed to Trump would himself be opposed to Trump.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (YqDXo)

58 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM

Pulled pork?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Y+V3r)

59 Biggest scandal since Teapot Dome. Overpaid Fed careers with early retirement and book deals will spring forth!

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (RuIsu)

60 Why do the cops need video in the first place? All they needed was an eyewitness or two to say Kraft is guilty.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (ta49A)

61 51 I thought the NE Patriots - and presumably their owner, Kraft - were "woke."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

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All nullified by his friendship with Trump.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (t5m5e)

62 So if buffonery ocurred, and someone made up some shit to get a warrant, did someone get charged...get arrested?

No? Quelle suprise.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (AwVzI)

63 Pulled pork?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Y+V3r)
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Oh dear lord, I hope he's not lurking here.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (aXucN)

64 Much as it pains me to say it, 6 Super Bowl rings.

Posted by: JackStraw
________

This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

65 There really is human trafficking going on, particularly to massage and manicure places but this is not the way to go about stopping it. They're claiming a huge crime and going after little stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (39g3+)

66 53 If cops would have used SWAT and shot some people and dogs

Shooting people bad for Asian message parlor business.

Shooting dog good for Asian restaurant business.

Posted by: Jack Wong's Massage Parlor and Korean BBQ at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (oFlMR)

67 Not on topic, but not entirely off-topic either, the governor just signed one senate and two house bills earlier this month prohibiting civil forfeiture without a conviction in Michigan. I haven't read the details yet, this just brought that to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (t+qrx)

68 Why does that sound so... familiar... Flynn cough cough...
Posted by: Don Q at May 19, 2019 02:32 PM (NgKpN)

False comparison. The hit job on General Flynn isn't anywhere close to getting caught receiving a happy ending from a massage parlor hooker. & CBD's point about these prostitutes being somehow grateful they're in the States? I doubt giving handies to skeevy slobs figured into their dreams of their new lives in America.

I've worked with recovering drug addicts and alcoholics over the years, both men and women, some of whom have prostituted themselves when active in their disease. The guilt and shame of it was a terrible burden for many of them. People who frequent prostitutes are--in my view--essentially exploiting damaged people. It isn't harmless.

Posted by: troyriser at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (1JpTT)

69 I'm beginning to think our law enforcement and legal institutions aren't the infallible godheads we're told to worship.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (cXV7n)

70 Oops, massage parlor, not message parlor.

Jack Wong hate autocollect.

Posted by: Jack Wong's Massage Parlor and Korean BBQ at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (oFlMR)

71 the governor just signed one senate and two house bills earlier this month prohibiting civil forfeiture without a conviction in Michigan

The fact that with the bill of rights in existence, anyone has to even pass a law to do this is mindboggling to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (39g3+)

72 A prostitute? Is that the best a man can get?

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (ta49A)

73 >> Pulled pork?
>> Posted by: Nevergiveup

Guaranteed.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (o2vOl)

74 Those cops seem nice.

Posted by: Florida Man at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (EgshT)

75 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM

Pulled pork?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Y+V3r)

Jerked Chicken.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (yQpMk)

76 Regulate prostitute's managers not the prostitutes. That would eliminate prostitute as victim.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (7cJE3)

77 This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

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Still makes me lol.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (RU4sa)

78 Well said, troyriser.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (aXucN)

79 So a bunch of John Does get embarrassed and Billionaire Bob Kraft has to figure out a safer way to pay to play.That's the outcome of this clusterfark.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (smQOA)

80 I've worked with recovering drug addicts and alcoholics over the years, both men and women, some of whom have prostituted themselves when active in their disease. The guilt and shame of it was a terrible burden for many of them. People who frequent prostitutes are--in my view--essentially exploiting damaged people. It isn't harmless.

I agree, the idea that "it was just a hand job" hey, would you like to be forced to sit in a room and jack off old men all day long for pennies?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (39g3+)

81 The fact that with the bill of rights in existence, anyone has to even pass a law to do this is mindboggling to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (39g3+)

Agree completely. Just as baffling is mentioning it to people who were completely unaware there was such a practice.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (t+qrx)

82 >>This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.

Serves Kraft right for all the cheating. Karma.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (/tuJf)

83 I agree, the idea that "it was just a hand job" hey, would you like to be forced to sit in a room and jack off old men all day long for pennies?

Meh. It's a living.

Posted by: rainmondo at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (yQpMk)

84 I am no ronger infected.

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (nxw5n)

85 hey, would you like to be forced to sit in a room and jack off old men all day long for pennies?

Is there a newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 19, 2019 03:06 PM (EgshT)

86 I'm beginning to think our law enforcement and legal institutions aren't the infallible godheads we're told to worship.

Posted by: weft cut-loop
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No, they are. You're the problem. We're all the problem.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:06 PM (ta49A)

87 OT, but has the font changed for anyone else, or is it just me?

The daintier type is hard on these 29-year-old eyes.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (uDcBt)

88 Florida's Constitution has a "Sunshine" law.

All guvmint docs, videos, emails, texts, blah,blah are open for public consumption except in cases of on-going popo investigations and the like.

You can delay, but you better have a good reason. Much money has been paid out and people have gone to jail for not producing what is asked for in a timely manner even for mundane, everyday stuff.

The taxpayers of the State have every right to see what their police departments have spent the taxpayer's money on even if it's on a nasty old bastard getting his freak on.

But money talks and the law only applies to the great unwashed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (Z+IKu)

89
I make ru happy ru make me wife! Fucky sucky long time!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (nxw5n)

90 If only GOPes could fight like the commies. If. Only.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:08 PM (smQOA)

91 OT, but has the font changed for anyone else, or is it just me?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas
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It's the same on my end. But . . .

I had the font change awhile back -- turned out I had my screen on 105% or 110% zoom and didn't realize it for about four days.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:09 PM (ta49A)

92 The daintier type is hard on these 29-year-old eyes.

Scroll back on your mouse wheel

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:09 PM (39g3+)

93 So going after johns is the way to stop human trafficking? Seems like that process is about as sucessful as shutting down cartels by arresting street dealers.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (AwVzI)

94
I thought "rub and tug" was a food thread thing about tenderizing meat...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (zBaqJ)

95 77 This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

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Still makes me lol.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (RU4sa)

Evidently Putin still believes in redistribution of wealth.

Oh well, at least Kraft has a bunch of them. It would suck if that was his only Super Bowl ring.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (sdi6R)

96 People who frequent prostitutes are--in my view--essentially exploiting damaged people.

Meh. I don't like cop outs and victimization.

If you shoot heroin and then pimp yourself out to buy more, you are exploiting yourself.

If you are child or retarded person being sold into sex trafficking or manipulated by some pedo groomer into sex acts, you are being exploited.

Posted by: Jack Wong's Massage Parlor and Korean BBQ at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (oFlMR)

97 84 I am no ronger infected.
Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (nxw5n)

We go back to my room, bouncy bouncy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (zBaqJ)

98
There is a reason Soro is targeting State DA races. He knows the DAs have unlimited funds and can sue Republicans to death.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (u3dHb)

Houston is going crackers over wackjob mayor and county DA, a Soros winner.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (7cJE3)

99 Isn't Kraft also friends with Limbaugh? Another person the left has tried to destroy.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (kRPTw)

100 I really don't give a shit if dudes are getting happy endings at massage parlors. Talk about your victimless crime.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (NWiLs)

101

Me virgin, do boom boom butt stuff, you cum long time!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (nxw5n)

102 94
I thought "rub and tug" was a food thread thing about tenderizing meat...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (zBaqJ)

Making fresh pasta.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (NWiLs)

103 100 I really don't give a shit if dudes are getting happy endings at massage parlors. Talk about your victimless crime.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (NWiLs)

"Pfft!"

- - Laundry Service for massage parlors.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (zBaqJ)

104 >> 9 Do they use shape oil for their massage lube?

Shale oil suffers no significant viscosity breakdown regardless of the number of reciprocations per second.

...and yes: Justice shale prevail.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (o2vOl)

105 As the universe expands, your monitor will recede with an almost imperceptible red-shift. Almost.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (RuIsu)

106 Half the world's population is Oriental and somehow its the last racism everyone seems cool with

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (39g3+)

107 President Trump has indicated that he is considering pardons for several American military members accused or convicted of war crimes, including high-profile cases of murder, attempted murder and desecration of a corpse, according to two United States officials.
The officials said that the Trump administration had made expedited requests this week for paperwork needed to pardon the troops on or around Memorial Day.

G-D I fuckin hope so. G-D bless PDT and America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (Y+V3r)

108

My hovercraft is full of eels!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (nxw5n)

109 103 100 I really don't give a shit if dudes are getting happy endings at massage parlors. Talk about your victimless crime.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (NWiLs)

"Pfft!"

- - Laundry Service for massage parlors.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (zBaqJ)

Dude...they'd be killing each other to get the exclusive contract.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

110 If only GOPes could fight like the commies. If. Only.
Posted by: kallisto

They're too busy fighting the hobbits, deplorables, and raaaiiiissschisssts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2019 03:13 PM (cXV7n)

111 To be fair, have we seen Bob's nails?

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 03:14 PM (RuIsu)

112 YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:15 PM (39g3+)

113 I definitely would not characterize prostitution as a victimless crime.

I definitely would throw the bullshit flag on that attorney and his office for getting a warrant based on lies and then using it to arrest and prosecute someone.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 03:16 PM (AwVzI)

114 YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:15 PM (39g3+)

Ya know what some peoples mouths look like?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:16 PM (Y+V3r)

115 Although I saw on the book thread that Texas told the Demonrat congress to pound sand over some bogus demand.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:16 PM (smQOA)

116 Been painting and reading up on Cossacks in the Napoleonic wars and Putin sounds like he is one.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (BbGew)

117 >> 112 You say its victimless [ crime ] but some poor
>> Vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Eighth amendment violation right there. Case closed.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (o2vOl)

118 >>YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Pretty sure she was doing more than just looking at it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (/tuJf)

119 That's the outcome of this clusterfark.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (smQOA)

And the Ladies who Lunch being videoed - that's going to be some hell to pay.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:20 PM (7cJE3)

120 Pretty sure she was doing more than just looking at it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (/tuJf)

Saluting the flag? Maybe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:20 PM (Y+V3r)

121 Also like the way DJT admin is refusing every demand the dem hyenas throw at him. Trump is the first Republican 'Fuck you, pay me!' president.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:21 PM (smQOA)

122 118
>>YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Pretty sure she was doing more than just looking at it.

Posted by: JackStraw

Mandatory Safety Glasses for all Massage Therapists!

Posted by: PPE is your friend at May 19, 2019 03:21 PM (SVslj)

123 106 Half the world's population is Oriental and somehow its the last racism everyone seems cool with
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (39g3+)

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Racism against caucasians is rising quickly.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 19, 2019 03:22 PM (t5m5e)

124 91 OT, but has the font changed for anyone else, or is it just me?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas
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It's the same on my end. But . . .
I had the font change awhile back -- turned out I had my screen on 105% or 110% zoom and didn't realize it for about four days.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:09 PM (ta49A)

It changed when I refreshed the screen; I'm on a Kindle, so I don't know what's going on / don't know how to change the zoom on this screen.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 19, 2019 03:22 PM (uDcBt)

125 I never saw prostitution as a victimless crime, but then don't see drug use that way either.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (BbGew)

126 The taxpayers of the State have every right to see what their police departments have spent the taxpayer's money on even if it's on a nasty old bastard getting his freak on.

But money talks and the law only applies to the great unwashed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (Z+IKu)

Actually you can view it at the county court house. They have a little room you go into and put a dollar bill into a slot for each minute you wish to see,

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (1g7ch)

127 Actually you can view it at the county court house. They have a little room you go into and put a dollar bill into a slot for each minute you wish to see,
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (1g7ch)

They play it on a continuous loop. You pay money to get them to turn it off.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:24 PM (NWiLs)

128 Someone upthread commented on the word lox. Ace sez:

Lox now means smoked salmon, whereas lox probably just meant plain old salmon 8000 years ago.

I have actually given this some prior thought. Lox comes to us from Yiddish, which is largely a dialect of German. The word is Lachs in German and Lax in the filthy Scandi tongues.

They would all be eating the same fish from the North and Baltic seas. My guess is that it only reached the shtetls where Yiddish was spoken in its smoked form.

Lox means smoked salmon in English because that's how we got the word. It means regular salmon in the other Nordic languages.

Of course, our Salmon is related to Saumon (Fr.) and Salmone (It.), which means we've accepted an inferior Latinate word for tasty tasty fish of the northern seas.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:26 PM (fuK7c)

129 Re: human trafficking - sex trafficking including children

Look for that to break wide open after DECLAS and stage 2 of Horowitz IG report.
Regarding the IG report, a lot of things could not be mentioned in the first release due to ongoing investigations.

After those, Clinton Foundation investigation where the human trafficking will begin being revealed.
Also look for the name Ray Chandler ( she is a "photographer" ) to pop up if you haven't seen it already.
She makes Allison Mack of NXIVM fame look like a piker.
If you like digging you can find photos of her hanging with some really big names. Procurer for Epstein.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 03:27 PM (A3w0Q)

130 Actually you can view it at the county court house. They have a little room you go into and put a dollar bill into a slot for each minute you wish to see,

Ah, just like Times Square.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 03:27 PM (yQpMk)

131 The feminist line used to be that sex workers are single moms paying their bills and pre-med students working their way through college. Now we're more likely to hear that all sex workers are victims of human trafficking. Neither, of course, is true.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 03:28 PM (hjaPQ)

132 Much as it pains me to say it, 6 Super Bowl rings.

Five. Remember, Putin stole one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:28 PM (fuK7c)

133 There is a reason Soro is targeting State DA races. He knows the DAs have unlimited funds and can sue Republicans to death.

=====

I keep yammering on about the WI John Doe nastiness. Read about it and weep. Coming soon to a county or state near you.

Oddly enough, WI - Madison/Milwaukee - is hosting the democrat convention next year. Hold on to your Constitutions folks because it is gonna be a rough ride.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 03:29 PM (MIKMs)

134 When is the food thread? I'm hungry

( rhetorical question )

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:30 PM (BbGew)

135 125 I never saw prostitution as a victimless crime, but then don't see drug use that way either.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (BbGew)

Same here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

136 YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:15 PM (39g3+)

What if it was a 56 year old Korean grandmother?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (1g7ch)

137 I saw Old Mans Junk open for Third Eye Blind at the Whiskey a Go Go in '91

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (flINI)

138 >>Five. Remember, Putin stole one.

Since we are being picky, he received 6 rings. He may have shoved a couple of them in some manicurists hoohah and now have 2 for all I know.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:33 PM (/tuJf)

139 Sitting out on my partially clean deck, power washed 1/3 of it but the hardest part. Warm but nice outside, to nice to be in.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:34 PM (BbGew)

140 "Farmhouse" frat boy with calf.

/ never pass out at the Farmhouse.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:34 PM (1g7ch)

141 >>If you like digging you can find photos of her hanging with some really big names. Procurer for Epstein.

NXIVM is currently being prosecuted for human trafficking; specifically, three Mexican teens held a sex slaves by Raniere (and Mack?). Given NXIVM's presence in Mexico, and Carlos Salinas' son's involvement in the cult, it will be interesting to see the extent of their human trafficking (doubt it's just the once w/the 3 girls). Seem to recall reading that when NXIVM was done with sex slaves they handed them off to Jeffrey Epstein? No idea if that was speculation or if it's been confirmed.

The close proximity of both NXIVM and Epstein to Democrat biggies in NY, including the Clintons, would explain why both of these scandals have been mostly ignored by the MSM.

Look at how much more coverage Kraft got for a happy ending vs. a guy who owns an island with underage sex slaves, that by the way, was frequented by a former POTUS and his wife, a Harvard law professor, a UK prince, and so many more international VIPs.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (W+vEI)

142 131 The feminist line used to be that sex workers are single moms paying their bills and pre-med students working their way through college. Now we're more likely to hear that all sex workers are victims of human trafficking. Neither, of course, is true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 03:28 PM (hjaPQ)

They also used to say that prostitutes were poor innocents who were forced into prostitution and exploited by those nasty men. Of course, in another perspective, prostitutes were women who preferred prostitution to taking a legitimate job, and who exploited the natural needs of men to make easy money.

The truth, of course, is a linear combination of the two perspectives, with the coefficients varying from case to case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (YqDXo)

143 Help please.
I just learned (thru an old thread) that we can support Ace by making amazon purchases thru this site. Almost every week i buy some books based on the horde's recommendations and now feel bad that I had no idea these could benefit Ace. How does this work; is there a link to click?

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (XROPS)

144 BTW, it's not just Kraft. Brady loves him some Trump too.

During the campaign a locker room reporter squeed about why do you support Trump? Brady, the shrewd political analyst, said "because he's my friend".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (fuK7c)

145 It changed when I refreshed the screen; I'm on a Kindle, so I don't know
what's going on / don't know how to change the zoom on this screen.
Which Kindle? The Fire with the Silk browser?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (7s3Gx)

146 How does this work; is there a link to click?

Top right on the home page. AoSHQ Amazon page.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (fuK7c)

147 139
Warm but nice outside, to nice to be in.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:34 PM (BbGew)

Nah, it's too hot. I'm inside with the air conditioner on.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (sdi6R)

148 I read Cossacks were very much known thieves, but towards the end of the wars the Czar ordered them to stop it, so they would take items they wanted and basically tell the owners it was a gift they were taking, or change clothes taking clean ones and leaving their dirty ones behind.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (BbGew)

149 I know all about right and wrong, but anyone who has been winged by what they call the American justice system knows legal and illegal is up for sale.

It's used as a cudgel on the less-connected.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (Jj+59)

150 I found the link- I think I have to be on the home page and not a comment page? I'll give it a try.

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 03:39 PM (XROPS)

151 What if it was a 56 year old Korean grandmother?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (1g7ch)

Can she cook American style food?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:39 PM (7cJE3)

152 Is Ace gonna do a thing on Batwoman? He has to do a thing on Batwoman.

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (uEbPt)

153 Somewhere in radio talk bander a week or two ago the statistic came up of 1 million prostitutes in the country, sounds high but could also count one timers so not sure to believe it or not.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (BbGew)

154 121 Also like the way DJT admin is refusing every demand the dem hyenas throw at him. Trump is the first Republican 'Fuck you, pay me!' president.
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:21 PM (smQOA)

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Annnnd there's another great candidate for Trump's 2020 campaign slogan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (4knXT)

155 There's a thing on Batwoman?

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (UdKB7)

156 I should go get a scotch

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (BbGew)

157 On the money Lizzy.

And I've seen photos of Ray Chandler hanging out with those you mentioned in your last paragraph as well as others.
Also photos she took of kids who she refers to as models.
The looks on those kids faces are heart wrenching.

Either the public will be incredibly outraged when all this sees the light of day, or this world is totally and completely lost.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (A3w0Q)

158 The best part of this is Kraft did this the morning of the AFC Championship in KC. It's the ultimate power move and soon to become part of my Patriots pregame.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 19, 2019 03:42 PM (zMaZS)

159 153 Somewhere in radio talk bander a week or two ago the statistic came up of 1 million prostitutes in the country, sounds high but could also count one timers so not sure to believe it or not.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (BbGew)

71.37% of all statistics are made up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

160 Home from la finca. I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 03:42 PM (MVjcR)

161 Can she cook American style food?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:39 PM (7cJE3)

As long as the first two ingredients are red pepper and garlic.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:43 PM (1g7ch)

162 I never saw prostitution as a victimless crime, but then don't see drug use that way either.

I won't argue in favor of prostitution, but I will say it's generally a self-inflicted wound.

The reason you feel bad after selling yourself is because you knew it was wrong all along and did it anyway.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 03:43 PM (oFlMR)

163 As long as the first two ingredients are red pepper and garlic.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:43 PM (1g7ch)

That's good enough for me.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:44 PM (7cJE3)

164 Somewhere in radio talk bander a week or two ago the statistic came up of 1 million prostitutes in the country, sounds high but could also count one timers so not sure to believe it or not.

Does that include Congress and the press corps?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (oVJmc)

165 "I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting."

Ooh that sounds dirty.

Posted by: guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (UdKB7)

166 "I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting."

Ooh that sounds dirty.
Posted by: guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (UdKB7)

It is only dirty if you are doing it right.

Posted by: Bender at May 19, 2019 03:46 PM (1g7ch)

167 Sounds like putting a diaper on baby Bubba.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:47 PM (7cJE3)

168
g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 03:47 PM (kHy01)

169 Not that it much matters, but Robert Kraft still has six super bowl rings.

Putin took one, so Kraft had another made for himself.

Posted by: grandvezir at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (eMmgj)

170 I still remember well hydraulic fluid showers from A-10's gun systems and that was 40 years ago.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (BbGew)

171 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (1UZdv)

172 165 "I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting."

Ooh that sounds dirty.
Posted by: guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (UdKB7)
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More of a pain in the wallet. I'm guessing I lost a couple of gallons of hydraulic fluid which the grass isn't going to like.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (MVjcR)

173 128 Someone upthread commented on the word lox. Ace sez:

Lox now means smoked salmon, whereas lox probably just meant plain old salmon 8000 years ago.

I have actually given this some prior thought. Lox comes to us from Yiddish, which is largely a dialect of German. The word is Lachs in German and Lax in the filthy Scandi tongues.

They would all be eating the same fish from the North and Baltic seas. My guess is that it only reached the shtetls where Yiddish was spoken in its smoked form.

Lox means smoked salmon in English because that's how we got the word. It means regular salmon in the other Nordic languages.

Of course, our Salmon is related to Saumon (Fr.) and Salmone (It.), which means we've accepted an inferior Latinate word for tasty tasty fish of the northern seas.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:26 PM (fuK7c)

Even though I grew up in NYC and environs, my first experience of lox was as LOX: Liquid Oxygen.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2019 03:50 PM (MwFQu)

174 What will it take to convince people that the police are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever to be trusted under any circumstances?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 03:50 PM (Xk5BK)

175 Kraft is an honorary Florida Man. 77 years old, gets a tug tug at 430 pm and again the next morning as soon as the joint opens.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:50 PM (Jj+59)

176 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (1UZdv)

Just like building a football roster, ya need a few bargain basement players to fill oUt the roster

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (Y+V3r)

177 My guess is that it only reached the shtetls where Yiddish was spoken in its smoked form.
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How do you smoke a language?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (IFKOp)

178 Romney went on Jake Tapper's CNN show to say that Trump disgraced the office, and while close, it wasn't impeachable.

Allrighty then.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (1UZdv)

179 More of a pain in the wallet

JD brand is Hy-Gard I think, and yes it is expensive.

Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (dC1N1)

180 And my US Rep is Alcee Hastings. He's a legit Florida Man.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (Jj+59)

181
179 More of a pain in the wallet

JD brand is Hy-Gard I think, and yes it is expensive.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (dC1N1)
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Yep. That's it. About $25/gal.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (MVjcR)

182 Romney went on Jake Tapper's CNN show to say that Trump disgraced the office, and while close, it wasn't impeachable.

Allrighty then.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (1UZdv)

Romney is worse than the curse we thought he would be.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (Y+V3r)

183 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (1UZdv)

Cheap whores don't sue for palimony.

There's plenty of stories about million/billionaires having to pay off their bimbos because they pretended to have a relationship.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (oVJmc)

184 Kraft is 77
The 2 Chinese women were averaging g 50 years old

Posted by: Kurt at May 19, 2019 03:53 PM (SR7dn)

185 Yes, I get that EVERYONE must be referred to as "(fill in the blank) worker" because remember, hyper-evil rich people do not ever work. But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 03:53 PM (Xk5BK)

186 donsurber.blogspot.com divide-country-promise unity
http://tinyurl.com/yxhftc6q

I hope it's Creepy Uncle Joe and President Trump rips into him.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:54 PM (BbGew)

187 152 Is Ace gonna do a thing on Batwoman? He has to do a thing on Batwoman.

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (uEbPt)

I saw a picture of the new soyboy Batman here the other day. Does this mean that the new Batwoman will be a bull dyke?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

188

Sex workers work in a workers paradise.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 03:54 PM (aKsyK)

189 Romney is worse than the curse we thought he would be.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (Y+V3r)

Yes and that was a pretty high bar

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 19, 2019 03:55 PM (P4Pk9)

190 But WTF is a "sex worker"?
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Someone who is condemned to work in the jism mines of Ganymede, I think.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 19, 2019 03:55 PM (IFKOp)

191 I need a refill but better not get one.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:55 PM (BbGew)

192 Wikileaks is claiming that Ecuador is getting ready to turn over to the US all documents, computers, etc. that Assange left at the Ecuadorian embassy.

That would be nice.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (/tuJf)

193 I found a can of Lox with a date code: MMMLXXI B.C. I get free out of date bagels, so I'm good to go.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (RuIsu)

194 Current Dim media fav Petey Butt-gig says that we need to eliminate American founder Thomas Jefferson's name from all buildings and other memorials, because Jefferson owned slaves and may even have had sex with one of his slaves.

Hopefully somebody will ask Butt-gig if that means he also supports outlawing Islam in the U.S.

After all, Islam's founder was a slave-owning, slave-trading, war-mongering, blatantly sexist and misogynistic, polygamous, child-marrying pedophile. If we can't tolerate buildings that honor slave-owner/slave-diddler Jefferson, then we surely also can't tolerate buildings that honor the even more egregiously offensive slave-owner/kiddie-diddler Mohammad.

When is Butt-gig going to call for all mosques in the U.S. to be burned down or re-purposed, and the name Mohammad forever stricken from polite discourse?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (k4dH2)

195 I remember a few years back watching a couple of real life LEO busting a rub and tug in California on some cable channel.

Their entire focus was on finding the boss lady's stash of cash. They had no interest in arrests or enforcing any statue.

Once they got the cash they were done.

Assets forfeiture was game.

In my mind they were not Law Enforcement Officers but tucking criminals.

Posted by: Parker Lonbaugh at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (FwC0V)

196 "Romney went on Jake Tapper's CNN show to say that Trump disgraced the office"

Can't someone come up with a video of Cunk getting his weenie wacked by a furry?

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (UdKB7)

197 17 If these a-holes really want to stop sex trafficking, then why don't they start supporting serious fixes to our immigration laws instead of supporting lawless "sanctuary" cities and states?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (k4dH2)

Because, meanie, that is cruel and inhumane. The United States commits crimes against humanity whenever they do something as sadistic and heinous as having a CBP official demand your passport at a port of entry.

(Seriously, I wonder if these open border types throw a tantrum befitting a 3 year old when re-entering the United States at a port of entry, telling the CBP meanie that he has no right to see his/her passport.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (Xk5BK)

198 Better yet let it be Creepy Uncle Joe then have AGBarr open the Chinese collusion investigation next year.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (BbGew)

199 145 It changed when I refreshed the screen; I'm on a Kindle, so I don't know
what's going on / don't know how to change the zoom on this screen.
Which Kindle? The Fire with the Silk browser?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (7s3Gx)

Yes - the Fire HD10

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 19, 2019 03:58 PM (uDcBt)

200 Aronberg is an interesting guy. He introduced a bill making video voyeurism a crime, refused to prosecute Lewandowski for battery, and was married once to a Dolphins cheerleader for about 15 months.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:58 PM (Jj+59)

201 I found a can of Lox with a date code: MMMLXXI B.C. I get free out of date bagels, so I'm good to go.

Posted by: Burger Chef
________

That can be true. If it had a date code of 3071 B.C., then it would also have to have a month and a date, too.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:59 PM (ta49A)

202 I know with touch screens shit can change in a flash

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:59 PM (BbGew)

203 And now I see others had the same oxidizing thought.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2019 04:00 PM (MwFQu)

204 New Batwoman on The CW is yes a bulldyke with some 12 year oldish lipstick features. SJW's claim it is faithful to the comic by going lez.

That's not even a quarter of the hot garbage.

She has stupid lines like:

Black Alfred: "But that suit is perfection."
Batdyke: "That suit WILL be perfection... when it fits a woman"

And then after breaking into his batcave, stealing his identity and fighting some crime she says:

"They think I'm him. Well I'm not about to let a man take credit for what a woman did."

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 04:00 PM (uEbPt)

205 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.

It may be that he was going for a real massage.

A really good massage with a little manual release at the end is a whole different ballpark from a perfunctory rub and handjob.

Or so I'm told.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (fuK7c)

206 Its 3071 AD, your good, that stuff is better than Twinkies to survive

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (BbGew)

207 Wonder if Assange (or his documents) can prove that it wasn't the Russians that hacked the DNC/Podesta.

Did the Mueller report add anything to prove it was the Russians who did, other than rely on the opinion of the DNC's outside consultant.

Mueller's indicting 17 Russians for buying $500K in Facebook ads was a smoke screen.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (1UZdv)

208 Probably gonna go see this: https://tinyurl.com/y47fdk59

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (AwVzI)

209 >>But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Heh, good question.
*Think* it refers to anyone who performs sex as an occupation, so it includes porno actresses, strippers, massage parlor, hookers all the way up to escorts. Think it may have become the term when feminist embraced the plight, and sought to empower and legitimize, women in those professions.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (W+vEI)

210 Hopefully somebody will ask Butt-gig if that means he also supports outlawing Islam in the U.S.

--------

Heh. Charming.

Posted by: The MSM, Now with 28% More Truthy Goodness at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (4knXT)

211 Cunk needs to be shut down. Maybe we can get some mileage out of that dog on the roof thing. There must be something that Mittens has done that will render him to shameful oblivion.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (UdKB7)

212 FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (BbGew)

213 How do you smoke a language?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (IFKOp)

Give it time. You see it happening to English. Stupid terms like "sex worker"...I just happened across "Law Enforcement Officer" (when "cop" or "police" would do)...and of course, how every single last business or profession or professional HAS to be referred to as "(fill in the blank) provider".

(I about lost my mind when I was watching TWC and one of the weather hotties suggested that one contact their "insurance provider". Um...is that like an "insurer"? Or is that too hard to say?)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (Xk5BK)

214

Want to Dismantle Capitalism? Abolish the Family

Feminist theorist Sophie Lewis's new book looks at how rethinking pregnancy and the idea of family as forms of labor is central to emancipatory politics.
By Rosemarie Ho

https://t.co/rZxUfN92KU

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (aKsyK)

215 This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

Kleptocrats gotta klepto!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (e1mEI)

216 204 New Batwoman on The CW is yes a bulldyke with some 12 year oldish lipstick features.
Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 04:00 PM (uEbPt)

And here I thought I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm, like satire, can't keep up with reality today.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (sdi6R)

217 Heh, good question.
*Think* it refers to anyone who performs sex as an occupation, so it includes porno actresses, strippers, massage parlor, hookers all the way up to escorts. Think it may have become the term when feminist embraced the plight, and sought to empower and legitimize, women in those professions.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (W+vEI)

SF used to have (may still have, for all I know) a prostitutes' union called Coyote that was trying to mainstream prostitution and such. I met the head (?) of the union at a garden party thrown by my liberal girlfriend of the time, a social worker who was connected to a lot of liberal crap in SF.

The amazing thing is that we got on well, politics notwithstanding.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

218 And here I thought I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm, like satire, can't keep up with reality today.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (sdi6R)

Spoiler Alert: We are now living in a satire.

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (uEbPt)

219 (I about lost my mind when I was watching TWC and one of the weather hotties suggested that one contact their "insurance provider". Um...is that like an "insurer"? Or is that too hard to say?)

The sign at the entrance to my Stop n Shop says "if any consumer commodity scans at an incorrect price..." they'll make it up to you.

(A) What's wrong with "item"? (2) Stop and Shop does not sell commodities. A commodity is a unit of undifferentiated product like North Sea Crude or Nebraska Red Wheat. They sell branded, differentiated goods.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (fuK7c)

220 you take too long, you go now.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (r/xAU)

221 It was just misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution charges for the men, and felony charges of making money from prostitution for the women.
--
I do wonder why the charge is bigger for the prostitute ?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (r/xAU)

222 Want to Dismantle Capitalism? Abolish the Family

Feminist theorist Sophie Lewis's new book looks at how rethinking pregnancy and the idea of family as forms of labor is central to emancipatory politics.
By Rosemarie Ho

https://t.co/rZxUfN92KU
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (aKsyK)

This stupid broad just figured that out? It's been an article of faith among Communists for generations now. Did she finally come across a comic book that explained Marxist doctrine to her?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

223 205
I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.

It may be that he was going for a real massage.

A really good massage with a little manual release at the end is a whole different ballpark from a perfunctory rub and handjob.

Or so I'm told.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

Releasing the fifth chakra is the key!

Posted by: Al Gore at May 19, 2019 04:09 PM (SVslj)

224 or was it the 2nd Chakra....just a touch of AlGoremer's....

Posted by: Al Gore at May 19, 2019 04:10 PM (SVslj)

225 A really good massage with a little manual release at the end is a whole different ballpark from a perfunctory rub and handjob.
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only that it might be a semi decent pretext with added icing.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (r/xAU)

226 whew lizzy is here. so not totally bad ju ju.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (r/xAU)

227 Return business speaks well for quality.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 04:15 PM (Gqta/)

228 I do wonder why the charge is bigger for the prostitute ?
Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (r/xAU)

Same reason drug dealers get more serious charges than drug users.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:17 PM (YqDXo)

229 Jay, but the original theme were these women were Unwillingly Being trafficked, seems rather cruel in that context ..

?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (r/xAU)

230 Yes - the Fire HD10..
Ok, if it's like mine, press that set of horizontal lines in the upper left corner. A large tab should slide out. Select "settings", then "accessibility", then "text scaling"
That's the only way I know of to make changes to the font size in the Silk browser.
If that doesn't hack it, try restarting the Kindle.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (7s3Gx)

231 also also the womens 'work' i'm sure she's paying a cut , or a set charge back to the house pimp.

what did that guy get?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:20 PM (r/xAU)

232 and without the sex drug.

if the women were being harmed I could see it, but the story was presented as the Women were being harmed.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:22 PM (r/xAU)

233 anyway besides icky diseases , who's being harmed if the women aren't being coerced?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (r/xAU)

234 233 anyway besides icky diseases , who's being harmed if the women aren't being coerced?
Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (r/xAU)

Society.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (YqDXo)

235 well sure, but i'm specifically speaking of the charges.

why it is lopsided.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:24 PM (r/xAU)

236 2nd Chakras are being released, which is a Public Health Service!

Posted by: Al Gore at May 19, 2019 04:24 PM (SVslj)

237 ok, And I was speaking of the harm.

sorry. mind faint

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (r/xAU)

238 but I don't believe society isn't necessarily being harmed, if its an inside shop not walkers showing their wares.

I think some women like the money and are not pure as the driven snow , or, looking for a way to pay for college.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:26 PM (r/xAU)

239 I think most of us women make money the hard way, by doing it straight. still, other than hurting their own moral compass?

and actual trafficking of course, but this doesn't see to be the case thank g-d.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:29 PM (r/xAU)

240 Speaking of prostitutes, Milt Rombley.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 04:31 PM (hjaPQ)

241 Meade, and cannibalizing business's but yeah.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:32 PM (r/xAU)

242 anyway they are all shitty people involved so it's sorry for me to care, I only wonder why charged are stiffer for the one Actually doing the work, while the other one is .. well..

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (r/xAU)

243 Stupid
Netscape
browser

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (7s3Gx)

244 ican't seem to type again. guess ill go back to work.

peace.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (r/xAU)

245 Quantum
Bollocks

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:35 PM (7s3Gx)

246 Test

line

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (7s3Gx)

247 Aha!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (7s3Gx)

248

SPEEDWAY, Ind. (WTHR) - Some of the drivers' significant others wore T-shirts that said, "Not YOUR Body, Not YOUR Choice" on qualifying day for the Indianapolis 500.

Ashley Welch and Hailey McDermott, the fiancees of Team Penske drivers Josef Newgarden and Simon Pagenaud, were both wearing the gray shirts with bold white lettering on pit lane Saturday. Welch also posted a picture of herself wearing the shirt on social media.

Indiana is among a handful of states moving to restrict abortions in hopes the U.S. Supreme Court will overturn its 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade.

A state law signed by the governor last month would ban a second-trimester procedure. Federal courts have blocked similar laws in other states.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (aKsyK)

249 They went fishing for perch in a rowboat and hooked an orca. I hope Kraft pounds everyone involved for the rest of his days as an interesting hobby.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (25Dt7)

250 I am sure the fans of the teams playing the patriots will have a different view with their signs.

Posted by: raimondo at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (zVQ7x)

251 And then attend some glitzy event with the spa lady as his date

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (25Dt7)

252 248 this will get the democrats out to vote in 2020 as gay marriage and trans gender bathrooms did for the republicans in 2016.

Posted by: raimondo at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (zVQ7x)

253 And Raimondo is in for a another serenade on his rectal kazoo.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 04:49 PM (oVJmc)

254 if the women were being harmed I could see it, but the story was presented as the Women were being harmed.
Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:22 PM (r/xAU)

This is a pet peeve of mine. The FBI busted a dozen massage parlors where I live, with lurid accusations about women from the far east who were misled into believing they'd be doing garment work and then forced into prostitution once they arrived. Weeping "victims" were paraded for the cameras, virgins who were kidnapped from the streets and broken by pimps from central casting to be sex slaves in the lucrative US market.

You had to follow the story for a few months, but in the end it was clear the vast majority were Korean and Chinese hookers who'd gone into debt to get smuggled into the US because they thought the money would be better here than in the home country. They "couldn't" go to the cops because that would mean deportation, which... if you were forced into sex slavery in a foreign country, would deportation back to your family really be something you'd see as a bad outcome?

It all sounds a lot more like "illegal immigration" to me than "human trafficking". They knew the score before they took the deal, knew they were entering the country illegally, knew what they were doing here would be illegal.

It's like women have no longer have agency. Any time they do something bad it's the fault of bad men, probably Rape Culture and Toxic Masculinity. And not, you know, greed.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 19, 2019 04:51 PM (h2Bdk)

255 But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Heh, good question.
*Think* it refers to anyone who performs sex as an occupation, so it includes porno actresses, strippers, massage parlor, hookers all the way up to escorts. Think it may have become the term when feminist embraced the plight, and sought to empower and legitimize, women in those professions.
Posted by: Lizzy

We should include divorce lawyers

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 04:52 PM (25Dt7)

256 I don't agree with much here that CBD said.

For starters, if the women wanted to STAY in the U.S., their best shot would be working WITH the state, in hopes of scoring an S Visa that govt witnesses sometimes get (if the govt needs them & asks for one).

Otoh, if they're foreign nationals & in a hurry to get deportrted? The bullet train is a prostitution conviction.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 05:05 PM (Cssks)

257 This case looked doomed from the very beginning, given the false prosecution statements to get the very unusual warrant, the fake traffic stop designed to capture Krafts identity, the failure to account for Kraft not paying extra for the tug (he got it for the rub price, implying no charge sex acts) and, of course, the hamhanded blackmail attempts from the cops and prosecutors, who tried to extort a quick guilty plea in return for not releasing the tapes.

Somebody should go to jail here, for sure. The police and the prosecutor.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Live! And in color! at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (Z216Q)

258
Another fake case of deflated balls.

Posted by: Mathew Slater at May 19, 2019 05:37 PM (kk8TL)

259 So this case went from 'hard to prove' to 'petering out'?

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at May 19, 2019 05:37 PM (4LbHt)

260 >> 255 But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Do you need a demonstration?

Posted by: Shep! at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (o2vOl)

261 Jupiter Police = LA Police in OJ trial.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at May 19, 2019 07:58 PM (N7qrH)

262 Hellooo, you ever try to rub one out with 6 Super Bowl rings?

I rest my case...

Posted by: Rober Kraft at May 19, 2019 09:36 PM (Ei0/7)

263 Okay, so if I rub one out here: does that sustain?

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