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Chris Buskirk: William Barr Was Right and the Media and Ruling Class Were Wrong About Everything. It's Time for Them to Admit It.

Nice.

Read the whole thing.

Chris Buskirk of American Greatness, writing at the New York Times:

For nearly four years, members of America’s ruling class, especially those in the media, the academy and government, have operated on one central, unquestioned assumption: orange man bad. This stifling orthodoxy led to a blind, counterfactual faith in the theory that Mr. Trump had somehow colluded with "the Russians" (never well defined) to win the election. Again, the specific charges were always amorphous -- plastic enough to change as needed. That's hardly surprising: That's the way conspiracy theories always work. The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

But why is it not enough to simply acknowledge that you dislike Mr. Trump and disagree with his policies? What psychological purpose does adding the fiction of a conspiracy serve?

The French philosopher and literary critic Rene' Girard held that such scapegoating and ritual sacrifice is an essential part of group identity and solidarity. That seems to apply here. Mr. Trump ran against American elites and their insular culture. Their response was to load onto him all of the sins they see in American society and attempt to sacrifice him to appease their gods.

Mr. Girard asked a question that is pertinent today: "Why is our own participation in scapegoating so difficult to perceive and the participation of others so easy? To us, our fears and prejudices never appear as such because they determine our vision of people we despise, we fear, and against whom we discriminate."

But the ritual sacrifice of Donald Trump didn't work -- at least not in the sense of removing him from office. It certainly did have the effect of catalyzing and uniting his opponents. Still, one of the many ironies here is that the Trump-hating media has handed him an incredibly powerful weapon for the 2020 campaign, one that may ensure his re-election.

Again, the operating principle was that of the zealot: Believe the narrative regardless of the lack of evidence, squint to see justifications where there are none and then in an intoxicated frenzy of moral superiority use any weapon at hand to destroy your enemy.

He also briefly talks about the NeverTrumpers, always eager to be Useful Idiots for their true political allies, the upper class left.

Speaking of, let's check in with another NeverTrump Collusion Truther, deftly mutating his conspiracy theory to avoid previous refutations:



Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:08 PM




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1 Foist

Posted by: Ha at April 19, 2019 02:08 PM (MAstk)

2 Top ten.

Not bad being in the sticks.

Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2019 02:09 PM (dbc7F)

3 Top ten.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 19, 2019 02:09 PM (t6MX/)

4 Orangeman not bad?

Posted by: steevy at April 19, 2019 02:10 PM (AjVAj)

5 Mass Media Seppuku ...

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 19, 2019 02:10 PM (o9mAc)

6 The sooner they admit it, the sooner the squealing and squirming stops.

More, please.

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:10 PM (Bdeb0)

7 WH Correspondents Dinner is gonna be lit, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:10 PM (W+vEI)

8 Psychosis on display with these mentally ill people.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 19, 2019 02:10 PM (ufFY8)

9 "Sorry, but you don't get to yadda yadda yadda the fact that there was no Russian collusion just so you can get back to your happy place of Orange Man Bad and pretend like the baseless conspiracy theory you pushed didn't just blow up in your face"

Sez you!

Posted by: The MSM at April 19, 2019 02:11 PM (DMUuz)

10 David French is a mewling cunt.

Posted by: steevy at April 19, 2019 02:11 PM (AjVAj)

11
Its nice that David Frum thinks he can definitively answer the answer the questions that a free people should ask.


*makes jerk off motions*

Posted by: fixerupper at April 19, 2019 02:12 PM (8XRCm)

12 So who does the self righteous David French think should be the president?
Corrupt Hillary?
Spineless Mitt?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at April 19, 2019 02:12 PM (JgA4k)

13 Yeah David, so I evaluated who I want at the Helm of this Great Nation, I wanted a Person that believes in This country and puts it and its people First.
-
You?

Posted by: willow at April 19, 2019 02:12 PM (r/xAU)

14 The MSM trying to paper over this means they're backing the lefty faction pushing for an actual shooting war.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at April 19, 2019 02:12 PM (67XdO)

15 This is the portion of "7-Minutes in Heaven" where the door opens up and the lights come on and the Media finds out they've been heavily petting themselves.

Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2019 02:12 PM (WgAJo)

16
Notice we never actually see the things the Russians supposedly did on US social media to "interfere" in the '16 election?

I know why. Because they were ALL pro-radical-left posts, videos, and tweets.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (ah86I)

17 David French IS The French Mistake!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (+y/Ru)

18 @therealDonaldTrump:

"Just kidding! I faked it, you tools! You were all in. 'My presidency is fucked,' LOL. Having Mueller's ACME Report framed. Thanks for playing, losers, you're fired. Barron, point at them and laugh."

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (Bdeb0)

19 How can the lazy imbeciles of the media actually believe themselves to be anyone's betters?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (JgA4k)

20 Sean Davis kicking French's shit in is something I will never tire of seeing.

Posted by: Geoff Flakey at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (pPQeR)

21 Keep waiting for someone to break ranks in the MSM. There was a very brief moment for some on 2016 election night but they all quickly fell in line by morning. Really is something how they stick together.

Posted by: jhawk90 at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (Xvo1a)

22 A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation. It should not be this man.

I said in the last thread that if French never said that about Obama, then he isn't to be taken seriously.

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (xjiRE)

23 We're all supposed to just move on and forget it all happened.
Move on, get it?
Hmm.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (w7KSn)

24 The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

_____


Heh. Massively Multiplayer Coping Mechanism isn't just a river in Egypt ...

Posted by: ShainS -- PhD candidate in Angry Orange Male studies at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (RjT9g)

25 So David voted for Hillary of Benghazi, thanks David.

Posted by: willow at April 19, 2019 02:14 PM (r/xAU)

26 Rick Scott

Today I sent a letter to @FBI requesting that they provide any evidence to corroborate claims about FL's election security within 7 days.

It is my goal to have free & fair elections with zero fraud. The security of Florida's election systems is crucial.

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 19, 2019 02:14 PM (BqBId)

27
Notice we never actually see the things the Russians supposedly did on US social media to "interfere" in the '16 election?

-----

They also never notice that OBAMA was president while all this Russian Interference was going on....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 19, 2019 02:14 PM (8XRCm)

28 Hey MFM:
lol get fucked


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 19, 2019 02:14 PM (ufFY8)

29 Do you want a crass playboy or someone who speaks properly and believes in infanticide, Marxism, and hates the founding principles of this country? It is the latter, sir, for as a concerned conservative Christian I must say that appearances and norms are more important than actual values and beliefs.

Posted by: David French at April 19, 2019 02:14 PM (SkuXa)

30 I love this "the American people need to decide what kind of a person they want running the government" bullshit.
We did that asshole, in November of 2016. We'll do it again in 18 months. No go get your shinebox junior.

Posted by: Timon at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (dKm4U)

31 The swamp set this all in motion long before PDT was President. They should all hang for this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (Y+V3r)

32 The NYT printed that?


Posted by: Ha at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (MAstk)

33 Liberalism and Progressivism and all the other Isms on the Left are no longer political factions. They are religious cults, designed to be run on sheer unwavering faith, and faith alone. Facts and evidence are to be discarded as needed.

It's no wonder the Left can't take the Mueller report, and refuses to believe it. Imagine if a book was discovered, authentically written in Mohammed's hand*, that said that Islam was a massive get-rich-quick scheme on his behalf. The world's moslems would refuse to believe it, proclaim it a hoax, etc.

*Yes I know he was illiterate.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (l9m7l)

34 A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation.

A free people can also buy pineapples and barbed wire...David. Say, is that your phone on the ground?

Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (NAs56)

35 They can always #LearnToCode

Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (WgAJo)

36 I'm the paragon of coping compared to these guys.

Posted by: Miss Haversham at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (hLRSq)

37 Nevergiveup, Lining Trump uo and knocking him down was the INS policy? remember?

Posted by: willow at April 19, 2019 02:16 PM (r/xAU)

38 "...It's Time for Them to Admit It."

They can't. The hit to their egos would be fatal. That and the confirmation that their credibility is gone. Not going. Gone.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 19, 2019 02:16 PM (6eEQ+)

39 All this push-back continues to assign far more intelligence and seriousness to these idiots than they merit. Everything about all of this was ludicrous, largely illegal, completely alien to American values and traditions - and this was obviously true, from the first nano-second.


In its own way, all of it is further confirmation of the degradation of the civic culture.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:16 PM (QDnY+)

40 The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

Actually, it started as a pathetic joke of an accusation during the campaign. Barky even tried to take the Russians to a hot war over Syria in order to damage Trump's candidacy. Pretty sick shit. But, that's nothing new with Barky and his America-hating dem scumbags.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:16 PM (mTGg+)

41 14 The MSM trying to paper over this means they're backing the lefty faction pushing for an actual shooting war.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at April 19, 2019 02:12 PM (67XdO)

Sad but true. Shit will hit fan and the spray will be ugly.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at April 19, 2019 02:17 PM (FTPVM)

42
What's this??

obama's fbi is publicly claiming FL's election process is compomised??

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at April 19, 2019 02:17 PM (ah86I)

43 #learntocodemotherfuckers

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 19, 2019 02:17 PM (d7Ww2)

44 David French really brings out my inner homosexual.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at April 19, 2019 02:17 PM (SkuXa)

45 >>A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation.


A free people did this in November 2016.

DEAL WITH IT, CUCK

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:17 PM (W+vEI)

46 >>35 They can always #LearnToCode
Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (WgAJo)

#LearnToGoad

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (Bdeb0)

47 I'm the paragon of coping compared to these guys.

Posted by: Miss Haversham at April 19, 2019 02:15 PM (hLRSq)


Preach it, sister!

Posted by: Blanche DuBois at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (hLRSq)

48 Mr. Trump ran against American elites and their insular culture. Their response was to load onto him all of the sins they see in American society and attempt to sacrifice him to appease their gods.

Er ... not really. The "elites" are not so sophisticated. They were just flailing about like retards holding a powerful water hose.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (mTGg+)

49 Has the exemplary Christian David French ever considered shutting up with his self righteous drivel, backing up perhaps praying for the reformation of the man who is president and who is leading his country in a more conservative direction?

Not that he doesn't have the right to be a shrill, repetitive idiot but I still ask.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (JgA4k)

50 Anyone who lets Rich Lowry enter their world is a fool.

Posted by: REDACTED at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (DPjeO)

51 #learnto die in a fire

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (d7Ww2)

52 Trump 2016 and Brexit.

Two things the elites have been trying to undo for years now. Cry more.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:19 PM (W+vEI)

53 But why is it not enough to simply acknowledge that you dislike Mr. Trump and disagree with his policies? What psychological purpose does adding the fiction of a conspiracy serve?

______


Psychological schmycological, this was all initiated and perpetrated by the Deep State, Obama regime, and MFM to cover up massive treason and other crimes by Hillary Clinton, DogEater, and the rest of their ilk.

Posted by: ShainS -- PhD candidate in Angry Orange Male studies at April 19, 2019 02:19 PM (RjT9g)

54 That's the thing that's never addressed. Obama was the president. The impact of Russia! occurred on his watch; he's the incompetent one, er... complicit one. With the well-known 'flexibility' he offered to Vlad's guy over the hot mic.

Posted by: zeera at April 19, 2019 02:19 PM (3Bzg7)

55 Not that he doesn't have the right to be a shrill, repetitive idiot but I still ask.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere


I read that as "receptive" idiot

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 19, 2019 02:19 PM (d7Ww2)

56 >>52 Trump 2016 and Brexit.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:19 PM (W+vEI)

Myopia/eye fatigue scans as "Trump and Bread."

"Baby I'ma Want Ya, Baby I'ma Need Ya..."

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (Bdeb0)

57 @51 I like your thinking.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (l9m7l)

58 Fool me once, shame on you.
But, they never fooled me, because I always knew they are a bunching of lying rat fookers...

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (w7KSn)

59 The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism

And two years' worth of time to destroy evidence.

Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (NAs56)

60 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation."

Yeah, Dave, about that. I know you are my intellectual superior, but, I believe that's what elections are for. Dumbass!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (3sjI6)

61 Which comes first - the neuroses or the Leftism?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (hLRSq)

62 Swords drawn, stabby choppy should be kinetic by now.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (FTPVM)

63 61
Which comes first - the neuroses or the Leftism?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (hLRSq)

Depends.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (t6MX/)

64 Will anyone from the UK and Australian intelligence services be charged for interfering with our election? Will Hillary pay a price for 'collusion'?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders smells like white privilege at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (Nwk7M)

65 Er ... not really. The "elites" are not so
sophisticated. They were just flailing about like retards holding a
powerful water hose.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (mTGg+)

Love the mental image there. I LOL'd

Posted by: Timon at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (dKm4U)

66 Certainly not a man that uses a cigar as a sex toy or a woman who is a pathological liar who actually colluded with Russians for money.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (a/9Wy)

67 Yadda yadda yadda, or as the courtiers like to say, the "tick tock" of what collusion means to them.

Never ever use the words unless your gear-driven mantle clock refuses to keep proper time.

Posted by: 13times at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (K3B2k)

68 >>The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

Yea, no. It was a hell of a lot more than a coping mechanism.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (/tuJf)

69 Psychological schmycological, this was all initiated and perpetrated by the Deep State, Obama regime, and MFM to cover up massive treason and other crimes by Hillary Clinton, DogEater, and the rest of their ilk.


Posted by: ShainS -- PhD candidate in Angry Orange Male studies at April 19, 2019 02:19 PM (RjT9g)


That is true. Why is belief in this so important to the mental well-being of so many people? Why do they need for "Orange man Bad" to be true? These questions need to be answered.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

70
It's bad enough dealing with the left but these Quisling Never Trumpers are even worse. Nothing but backstabbing shitheads who in their warped minds are fighting the good fight which is nothing but aiding and abetting the left

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (SgPRN)

71 >>60 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation."

A free people should ask what kind of a domme they want at the helm of a Nadler-Maddow double-dong.

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (Bdeb0)

72 And two years' worth of time to destroy evidence.
Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (NAs56)


And, two priceless years of any statute of limitations timed out!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (f3oO4)

73 "William Barr Was Right and the Media and Ruling Class Were Wrong About Everything".

Phrasing like that just gives the benefit of the doubt to those scumbags. Because, even if they were wrong about everything, it becomes just an honest mistake, just a he said/she said difference of interpretation of the evidence. No. They deliberately peddled disinformation and lies to get the result they wanted.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (3sjI6)

74 I disagree.

They never believed in Russian collusion. They willingly pushed a lie that the knew was a lie because they are lying liars.

They were not blindly faithful believers in the curative powers of Doc Johnson's Miracle Tonic Elixir, they were the snake oil salesman in charge of getting you and I to buy into the ruse.

If they had faith in anything, they had faith in our intelligence communities ability to frame President Trump, that's what has them disappointed, and rightfully so.

If the combined efforts of 90% of the media and 100% of the intelligence community and the entire DNC with billions of dollars and unlimited manpower and surveillance info are too incompetent to frame one real estate tycoon, you should be disappointed and perplexed.

But don't give them the generousity of pretending they thought that Russian collusion was real. That's an insult to actual naive, mentally handicapped people that fall for such things.

They were demons. With long knives. And blood lust.




Oh yes, a f*ck them all straight to the fiery pits of hell for all of eternity.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (VycSd)

75 Learn to FOAD.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (t6MX/)

76 Can we just skip to the buttfucking now?

Posted by: David French at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (FTPVM)

77
It's bad enough dealing with the left but these Quisling Never Trumpers are even worse. Nothing but backstabbing shitheads who in their warped minds are fighting the good fight which is nothing but aiding and abetting the left
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (SgPRN)

Yup. I hate the quislings more than the left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (Y+V3r)

78 Feeling any contrition is not on the roster. These people are paid to bring down President Trump through any means. This is their function. This is their mission. Truth is the bump in the road that they will pave over.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (aWjrD)

79 Will anyone from the UK and Australian intelligence
services be charged for interfering with our election? Will Hillary pay a
price for 'collusion'?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders smells like white privilege at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (Nwk7M)

And when are those suckers of cock* Brennan and Clapper going to jail...
*per AOSHQ style guide.

Posted by: Timon at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (dKm4U)

80 Trump should send Kellyanne to the WHCD. She steps up to the lectern and adjusts the mic.

FUCK.YOU

Then she quietly walks out.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (gC2IV)

81 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation."

You can read!

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (NAs56)

82 >>64 Will anyone from the UK and Australian intelligence services be charged for interfering with our election? Will Hillary pay a price for 'collusion'? Posted by: Bernie Sanders smells like white privilege at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (Nwk7M)

Will Kamala Harris hire Christopher Steele to write up a dossier on Cory Booker's severe heterosexuality?

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (Bdeb0)

83 What kind of man do I want to be president?

The kind of man that can stand up to a two year anal probe from a group of people with an "out to git ya" attitude and walk away with the upper hand.

To keep Hillary out of jail Comey literally had to say "Sure the public evidence shows sheis guilty as the day is long, but "I am justice" so she is not going to be prosecuted."




Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (9dzlp)

84 "The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election."

Flawless summation.

Say, you know who no one's gotten a sound bite from yet since the report?

Guess she's out walking the wild paths of the Chappaqua hinterlands.

Did I say walking? I meant staggering.

Pretty sure her liver looks like a Dorito.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (x2PE6)

85 Can we finally get rid of the lose with dignity caucus? Will Trump Usher in a group of Republicans that actual fight for republican things? It's all failure theater to me untilI see perp walks... legit indictments of "elite" players.

Posted by: inogame at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (+2xjH)

86 >>>Yea, no. It was a hell of a lot more than a coping mechanism.

okay, your pot-addled brain has made a point, but you have to admit, it's a good line.

Posted by: ace at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (PbpT7)

87 Has a person had a more fitting last name than David French?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (a/9Wy)

88 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (VycSd)

Hear, hear!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (mTGg+)

89 Sure, yeah, the comet didn't destroy the Earth THIS time but just wait 5 years! Then we'll get it! Oh, and give all your possessions to me.

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at April 19, 2019 02:25 PM (RD7QR)

90 A free people should never lack for lamp posts.

Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2019 02:25 PM (NAs56)

91 To say its a "coping mechanism" is to forget what the enemy really is.

This has been a naked political operation from jump, with many facets - including keeping control of "the narrative" away from a mass media expert who suddenly had the biggest megaphone in the world.

Posted by: ... at April 19, 2019 02:26 PM (jR2N6)

92 Ahoy!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 19, 2019 02:26 PM (xJQgL)

93 ShainS: "Psychological schmycological, this was all initiated and perpetrated by the Deep State, Obama regime, and MFM to cover up massive treason and other crimes by Hillary Clinton, DogEater, and the rest of their ilk."

Yep.

The best defense is a good offense strategy. Literally treasonous actions by Obama/Clinton and especially Clinton were to be concealed forever. At this point, only half the battle has been won by Trump. But the real battle - the existential battle - is the second half which mandates who and to what degree real crimes were committed. I fear that battle will never truly happen, but to win the war, it must.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 19, 2019 02:26 PM (6eEQ+)

94 It's bad enough dealing with the left but these Quisling Never Trumpers are even worse. Nothing but backstabbing shitheads who in their warped minds are fighting the good fight which is nothing but aiding and abetting the left
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 19, 2019 02:22 PM (SgPRN)

No, it's even worse than that. The Quisling Never Trumpers don't believe they are fighting the "good" fight. They're fighting to protect their gravy train.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 19, 2019 02:26 PM (3sjI6)

95 People like French have a deplorable lack of self awareness and an aversion to the truth when it doesn't suit their provincial arrogance.

That he would even pretend to say who the people should elect to lead them, especially in view of the fact this president has done more for them, demonstrably, than any in a long time, unmasks his pure sophistic and biased origin. That he further pretends to not have been part of the conspiracy, further makes him a modern day Judas.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2019 02:26 PM (VkWRL)

96 19 How can the lazy imbeciles of the media actually believe themselves to be anyone's betters?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, champion of Urkers everywhere at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (JgA4k)
===

Dunning-Kruger effect. Also I don't mean to be repetitive, but I do resent being compared to that corpulent eunuch Brian Stelter. Thank you.

Posted by: A Pasty Lump of Dough at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (BDZWU)

97 Reading the content here boss

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (BbGew)

98 Idea I heard today that I like.
Bill the DNC for the $35million cost of the probe.
Use the money for the wall.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (w7KSn)

99 Russians handled their existential collapse much better than our elites. Maybe we should send them to a farm in Kazakhstan and see if it clears their thinking?

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (2LelM)

100 It has been a coping mechanism for 95% of the useful idiots. The 'lot more than that' applies to the perpetrators.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (a/9Wy)

101 WH Correspondents Dinner is gonna be lit, huh?
Posted by: Lizzy


GOH for this abortion should be Lori Loughlin.

Posted by: Dial M for Moron at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (nEOLy)

102 Will anyone from the UK and Australian intelligence services be charged for interfering with our election?

Christopher Steele and his ilk should not be charged. They should just be taken out. Seriously.

Will Hillary pay a price for 'collusion'?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders smells like white privilege at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (Nwk7M)


There's always hope. Barky is guiltier than she is. And younger. But I can't say that I have much faith that justice or the national interests will ever be served.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (mTGg+)

103 I've been looking around the web some, and it astounds me that the progs and the true believers seem to be inhabiting a completely separate world. They're going on and on about how the report DID prove collusion, and obstruction, and Impeachment is easy now because the report was really an indictment, and on and on and on. It's astounding -- it appears they really do believe that!

So now - unless something intervenes, like arrests of men like Clapper and Brennan, that the House *will* try impeachment. Not because it's a good idea, the leadership knows its a bad one - but because their rabid base demands it.

And the leadership may just decided that its better to keep the base happy and go down in flames next election.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (k1TUh)

104 Hey, David, your phone just pinged from inside a bathhouse and nothing in the Mueller Report contradicts that.

Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (98WNR)

105 A "free people" did consider and decide what sort of person should be leading our nation and they decided that it wasn't Hillary Clinton.

Cry me a river.

Sobbing because it's unseemly that our political class lives in the gutter ignores just who put us all there.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (BD/yx)

106 This was far more than a freakout. It was hamfisted but it was an itel construct. Brennan and Clapper are fucked.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (FTPVM)

107 >>okay, your pot-addled brain has made a point, but you have to admit, it's a good line.

It is a good line and a lot of people on both sides of the aisle deserve all the scorn and derision we can muster.

I just don't want people to focus on that to the exclusion of the real crimes that were committed.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (/tuJf)

108 intel

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (FTPVM)

109 FWIW, Trump could have been " colluding" his ass off with Putin, et al, and I would not give one shit. Those days are long gone. The American Left can fuck right off. War.

Posted by: tubal at April 19, 2019 02:29 PM (90T4r)

110 The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

You have to go deeper in the facts.

1. Surveillance of the Trump campaign started waaaaay earlier than the media dillholes will admit unless you hold their head in the toilet long enough.

2. The FBI (at Brennan or one of his minion's suggestion I posit) begins paying Steele to write the only thing more implausible than Fifty Shades of Grey.

3. Simultaneously, they begin running every Russian they can find at every Trump staffer they see to invent a predicate.

4. The gang of nitwits, you know the same dozen names ohrstrozkpagemccabe, "set the media hook" with the dossier.

5. Hillary loses.

6. Collusion BS thrown against the wall AND sudden blossoming concerns about "sources and methods" as well as "Doing things by the book."

Somewhere, sometime, TFG authorized this stuff (and I stand by my statement that Cruz and Paul were also targets). And he did so because there is something else here that we do not see. Something so big that it powered this kind of recklessness.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 19, 2019 02:29 PM (3RKQd)

111 Uniparty couldn,t have *any* outsider in power due to him not being in on thn NWO con.

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2019 02:29 PM (AJwk0)

112 Tom, haven't checked in the last hour, but the House leadership has indicated no impeachment since this ridiculous report was released. As they have done from the outset. Was never a serious possibility.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:29 PM (QDnY+)

113 I see at least two groups of people:
(1) Those who created the Russian collusion thing. They did not really believe it, they were using it as a vehicle in order to find something else to take down Trump and skin the Golden Scalp Weasel for the various reasons different people have when they collude in something like this.
(2) Those who honestly, religiously, believe in Trump-Russia because they are so psychically disordered they need an explanation to make sense of a world that, to them, has gone mad.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:29 PM (hLRSq)

114 >>Trump should send Kellyanne to the WHCD. She steps up to the lectern and adjusts the mic.

FUCK.YOU

Then she quietly walks out.
- - -
Heh.
Maybe first do a compilation of Trump's recent tweets where he lauds/quotes the few journalists who didn't buy Spygate and did legwork in uncovering the hoax.

They're not going to get awards, so someone has to give them recognition - why not to a captive WHCD audience?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:30 PM (W+vEI)

115 Dennis Prager's saying "Being on the Left means never having to say your sorry " holds perfectly true

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2019 02:30 PM (BbGew)

116 the coping mechanism really started after the election, the failure in their ability to swing the election the way they wanted,

They lost the power of persuasion.

we noticed they lie, unforgiveable,

the coup is on.

we knew that too.

that's why they hate us.

Posted by: willow at April 19, 2019 02:30 PM (r/xAU)

117 GOH for this abortion should be Lori Loughlin.

Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, and Les Moonves.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 19, 2019 02:30 PM (3RKQd)

118 Pertinent script:
The Dude: Walter, the chinaman who peed on my rug, I can't go give him a bill, so what the f*** are you talking about?

Walter Sobchak: What the f*** are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

The Dude: Jeez, Walter, I'm not talking about the guys who built the f***ing railroad here.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:30 PM (2LelM)

119 Then she quietly walks out.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (gC2IV)


No, she comes in, stands there silently for a minute. Then behind her the video plays of Obama taunting Trump at the earlier dinner. That is followed by Trump's inaugural speech, inter-cut with crying Dems from election night, as she leaves the dinner.

Posted by: WOPR at April 19, 2019 02:31 PM (J70i0)

120 27
Notice we never actually see the things the Russians supposedly did on US social media to "interfere" in the '16 election?

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I'm old enough to remember way back when the pro-net neutrality crowd told us that the Internet didn't belong to any one nation or group of corporations... Now, apparently RUSSIANS buys Facebook ads is a crisis.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at April 19, 2019 02:31 PM (KveBw)

121 Let cut to the core question: Is the Orange Man really that Bad?

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at April 19, 2019 02:31 PM (2sCft)

122 110 And goes part and parcel with that fucking Iran deal.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at April 19, 2019 02:31 PM (FTPVM)

123 French has gone completely bananas. But I guess that was predestined.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:31 PM (VaN/j)

124 >> The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.


It was a coup.
Nice line, but hides the malfeasance of A LOT of people.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:31 PM (W+vEI)

125 I want kelly ANNE to throw her fat shit husband to the side of the road

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Y+V3r)

126 112 Tom, haven't checked in the last hour, but the House leadership has indicated no impeachment since this ridiculous report was released. As they have done from the outset. Was never a serious possibility.

Steny Hoyer yesterday said "No impeachment", and then a radical leftist in his district said "Hoyer is a sellout to Trump, and I'm gonna primary him!" and suddenly Hoyer then came out and said "oh well it's too early to say, maybe we will do impeachment."

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (k1TUh)

127 They deliberately peddled disinformation and lies to get the result they wanted.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 19, 2019 02:23 PM (3sjI6)


And they committed serious crimes against American citizens in an attempt to pervert the system!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (f3oO4)

128 You have to go deeper in the facts.

1. Surveillance of the Trump campaign started waaaaay earlier than the media dillholes will admit unless you hold their head in the toilet long enough.

2. The FBI (at Brennan or one of his minion's suggestion I posit) begins paying Steele to write the only thing more implausible than Fifty Shades of Grey.

3. Simultaneously, they begin running every Russian they can find at every Trump staffer they see to invent a predicate.

4. The gang of nitwits, you know the same dozen names ohrstrozkpagemccabe, "set the media hook" with the dossier.

5. Hillary loses.

6. Collusion BS thrown against the wall AND sudden blossoming concerns about "sources and methods" as well as "Doing things by the book."

Somewhere, sometime, TFG authorized this stuff (and I stand by my statement that Cruz and Paul were also targets). And he did so because there is something else here that we do not see. Something so big that it powered this kind of recklessness.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at A




The surveillance of Trump, which started when he was a laughingstock, is the key. how was it that they did not spy on every candidate on the right? Who wold spy on Trump but not cruz, paul, bush, every one of them?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (MTjB1)

129 And while they are admitting that they were wrong, they can also admit that they are a bunch of no talent assholes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Z+IKu)

130 "One thing I see political analysts get wrong all the time. They overestimate the extent to which Trump supporters know about (or believe) the various Trump scandals. There is simply a gigantic knowledge gap between the politically-engaged subculture and everyone else."

----- David French, Educated Dimwit, Arrogant Asshole, and Cuck Extraordinaire

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (5aX2M)

131 >>125 I want kelly ANNE to throw her fat shit husband to the side of the road Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Y+V3r)

That guy looks exactly like Chaz Bono.

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Bdeb0)

132 The MMORPG reference works really well for people not immersed in the yadda yadda yadda news cycle.

Posted by: 13times at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (K3B2k)

133 They're all desperately trying to scrape the collusion conspiracy dogshit off their shoes.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (Dh1wo)

134 Russians handled their existential collapse much better than our elites. Maybe we should send them to a farm in Kazakhstan and see if it clears their thinking?
Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:27 PM (2LelM)

I hear Chechnya is beautiful this time of year. The stats show that if you're not beheaded in the first 3 months, you have a good chance of surviving another 2 years.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (3sjI6)

135 105
A "free people" did consider and decide what sort of person should be
leading our nation and they decided that it wasn't Hillary Clinton.



Cry me a river.



Sobbing because it's unseemly that our political class lives in the gutter ignores just who put us all there.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at April 19, 2019 02:28 PM (BD/yx)
+++That's what struck me - the haughtiness of that statement was very disturbing.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (aWjrD)

136 Tom, haven't checked in the last hour, but the House
leadership has indicated no impeachment since this ridiculous report
was released. As they have done from the outset. Was never a serious
possibility.


Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:29 PM (QDnY+)

They know it's a useless gesture. Of course, the nuts in their party will not be happy.

Posted by: WOPR at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (J70i0)

137 I don't know about you guys but I love the fact that the President of the United States used the word "bullshit" in a tweet...Love it!

Posted by: Timon at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (dKm4U)

138 My one doubt is how powerfully this will help us. At the best of times, popular opinion is a dicey thing to bet on. Today's American public has been miseducated, lied to, and outright brainwashed for decades. Can we count on them either to take this in now, or to remember it in a year and a half?

I hope so, but....

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (VaN/j)

139 No impeachment.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (QDnY+)

140 Steve, I rather enjoy not having to pay a fine for not having the financial ability to Buy their Peas.

it's a start.

also my kids find there are many more jobs available to choose from at more than 29 hours also!


the Judges!

and think of all the things that could have been done if we hadn't this group undermining everything he is doing 24/7

Posted by: willow at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (r/xAU)

141 112 Tom, haven't checked in the last hour, but the House leadership has indicated no impeachment since this ridiculous report was released. As they have done from the outset. Was never a serious possibility.
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Who is brave enough to inform the Hedge Fund Managers?

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (2LelM)

142 David French seems to be unfamiliar with the concept of an election. A free people did choose who they wanted to helm this nation, and they are going to choose again in 2020. Get your hanky now.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (KfLgN)

143 Willowed:

Willowed:

The very idea that Rod Rosenstein is anything but a duplicitous deep state weasel is silly.

--------

I know. Hope springs eternal. The guy fires Comey, as he was commanded to do, and then hires a man with close professional and personal and money connections to Comey to head up the Special Counsel.

The logic here is an obvious progression.

1.) Rod Rosenstein is an honest lawman, but the single most incompetent one in the country, and managed to rise to the top of the FBI by Chance the Gardener luck.

2.) Rod Rosenstein was a deep state crony, he and his friends viewed the Comey firing as a trigger for a coup, he installed one of Comey's homies to get the President and his crew, and now he's playing both sides against the middle to save his lousy skin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (5aX2M)

144 I think his breakdown is a little off.

He does not mention coup. The main group that pushed this story were executing a coup.

The msm also includes the group who were opportunists who were just saying whatever they needed to say for rating.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (LWu6U)

145 When can I take this thing off?

Me so tired, and the Human Centipede of CNN idiots don't seem to be getting tired.

Posted by: Mika in a Cosplay Chicken Suit at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (9dzlp)

146 106. Those clowns would have been so much better off mounting a garden variety Banana Republic military coup instead of the passive aggressive Failure Project they initiated - and in their Beta Bitchy way - continue to promote. ASSCLOWNS.

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (AJwk0)

147 Trump beat an election rigged against him and an investigation rigged against him.

Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (7HtZB)

148 They're all desperately trying to scrape the collusion conspiracy dogshit off their shoes.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2019 02:33 PM (Dh1wo)

They're actually trying to convince you that the dog shit is just an environmentally sustainable type of shoe leather.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (3sjI6)

149 131
>>125 I want kelly ANNE to throw her fat shit husband to the side
of the road Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Y+V3r)



That guy looks exactly like Chaz Bono.

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Bdeb0)

+++
Now you've done it. I will forever envision Chaz Bono when I see pics of her husband. Eeeew.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 19, 2019 02:35 PM (aWjrD)

150 The Russians are laughing their. Asses off at us.the left is playing right into the ruskies hands

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:35 PM (Y+V3r)

151 Took a look at the French twatterline. He's really being taken to the woodshed.

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 19, 2019 02:35 PM (WEBkv)

152 Chris Buzkirk bought a Deplorable Gourmet after Heidi Emailed his local radio show. So did his partner Seth Leibsolm.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 19, 2019 02:35 PM (s8BY2)

153 but the House
leadership has indicated no impeachment since this ridiculous report
was released. As they have done from the outset. Was never a serious
possibility.
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Impeach HIM! He failed to go down with all our work, all our efforts , how dare He impeach him now!

Posted by: willow at April 19, 2019 02:35 PM (r/xAU)

154 >>>A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation.

One that used to fuck dudes like you in prison, you mucilating little quim.

Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (q177U)

155 151 Took a look at the French twatterline. He's really being taken to the woodshed.
Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 19, 2019 02:35 PM (WEBkv)

The shame is part of the kink

Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (7HtZB)

156 >>>The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

We've just come out of a season of Ghost in the Shell, Stand Alone Complex.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (3stai)

157 Coding's too good for them. And involves too much brainpower. I recommend baristing. Of course, many will scald themselves by spilling coffee. But that's a price that has to be paid.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (VaN/j)

158 An Impeachment Follies Spectacle insures a Trump win in 2020. He would wipe the floor with their sorry asses.

Posted by: tubal at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (90T4r)

159 Alan Dershowitz: Who won, who lost in Mueller report

https://tinyurl.com/yy6ruwhx

Snip~

Barr takes the view - a view that I have argued for many months - that the act requirement of a crime (actus reus) cannot be satisfied by a constitutionally authorized action of the president, such as firing FBI Director James Comey. Mueller takes the view that a constitutionally authorized act can be turned into a crime if it is improperly motivated.

Mueller's view is extreme and dangerous to civil liberties because it creates pure thought crimes. According to Mueller, the corrupt motive is the crime because surely the constitutionally authorized act cannot be criminal. The implications of this view for all Americans are frightening. They are especially frightening if applied to a president. Do we really want prosecutors or members of Congress to probe the motivations of presidents when they take constitutionally authorized actions?

Posted by: Tami at April 19, 2019 02:37 PM (cF8AT)

160 2.) Rod Rosenstein was a deep state crony, he and his friends viewed the Comey firing as a trigger for a coup, he installed one of Comey's homies to get the President and his crew, and now he's playing both sides against the middle to save his lousy skin.
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He served Trump purpose and that was to bell the cat by remaining a AAG over Mueller. Mueller could not play loose knowing Rod was in for himself. He had to play it by the book and only editorialize for the Peanut Gallery. I am pretty sure, this too, serves Trump's purpose.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:37 PM (2LelM)

161 Er ... not really. The "elites" are not so sophisticated. They were just flailing about like retards holding a powerful water hose.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:18 PM (mTGg+)
++++
Yes, i think you have accurately described our retarded betters.....

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (2sCft)

162 The one thing we've known all along was that Meuller was never going to end up with nothing for the Dems to use. No matter what it took, he was going to hand them something they could pretend was impeachable while ignoring the rest.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (39g3+)

163 Who wold spy on Trump but not cruz, paul, bush, every one of them?
Posted by: yankeefifth

IIRC, both the Rubio and Cruz campaigns reported some curious incidents.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (KfLgN)

164 157 Coding's too good for them. And involves too much brainpower. I recommend baristing. Of course, many will scald themselves by spilling coffee. But that's a price that has to be paid.
Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (VaN/j)
===

I'm cool with that as long as there are free donuts in it for me!

Posted by: Brian Stelter at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (BDZWU)

165 >>The surveillance of Trump, which started when he was a laughingstock, is the key. how was it that they did not spy on every candidate on the right? Who wold spy on Trump but not cruz, paul, bush, every one of them?

Who says they didn't?

The Collyer report wasn't just about Trump. It was about illegal spying by the Obama administration that was going on for years.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if we eventually find out they spied on the Romney campaign. In fact, I'll be surprised if we don't learn that.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (/tuJf)

166 63 61
Which comes first - the neuroses or the Leftism?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:20 PM (hLRSq)

Depends.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 19, 2019 02:21 PM (t6MX/)
______

I don't think so. Many go over long before they need those.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (VaN/j)

167 To keep Hillary out of jail Comey literally had to
say "Sure the public evidence shows sheis guilty as the day is long, but
"I am justice" so she is not going to be prosecuted."






Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 19, 2019 02:24 PM (9dzlp)

========================
Yes, and Hillary was supposed to win. When Hillary didn't win, and she lost decisively, the American people were subjected to weeks of listening to Comey's endless appeals to God. Our political nobles, who openly mock people of faith, paid no heed to that, but since they still had faith in something greater than themselves, namely, the National Regulated State, the fact that Hillary lost and Trump (and his supporters) were victorious was a heresy that the US Nomenklatura could not, and cannot, abide.

Posted by: mrp at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (Pqytn)

168 Trump beat an election rigged against him and an investigation rigged against him.

Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (7HtZB)


And that the people arrayed against him are not now putting on false moustaches and booking flights to Argentina tells me that Trump has a lot to learn about the whole dictatorial strongman thing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (hLRSq)

169 Actually NGU the russkis aren't laughing about much these days. Oil prices are a bit better but their economy is mired in dysfunction. In any case they're of little consequence, whatever their mood.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (QDnY+)

170 154 >>>A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation.

One that used to fuck dudes like you in prison, you mucilating little quim.
Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (q177U)

A Free people did ask themselves that exact question, and then ELECTED HIM.

It was the Left and Never Trumpers that didn't like the result, and wanted a 'do over'.

Posted by: Don Q at April 19, 2019 02:39 PM (NgKpN)

171 I wanted Fred Thompson, but he wasn't on the ticket.

Posted by: OCBill at April 19, 2019 02:39 PM (df+Zi)

172 Mueller takes the view that a constitutionally authorized act can be turned into a crime if it is improperly motivated.

Which isn't just ridiculous, its without a shred of legal precedent. The way you deal with a president who fires someone unjustly or unfairly is to replace him when the election comes around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2019 02:40 PM (39g3+)

173 A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation.

-----

Misogyny much ???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 19, 2019 02:40 PM (8XRCm)

174 169 Actually NGU the russkis aren't laughing about much these days. Oil prices are a bit better but their economy is mired in dysfunction. In any case they're of little consequence, whatever their mood.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (QDnY+)

Several thousand nuclear warheads say differently. (No telling how many are actually functional.)

Posted by: joncelli the prophet, now accepting donations at April 19, 2019 02:40 PM (RD7QR)

175 Trump beat an election rigged against him and an investigation rigged against him.
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (7HtZB)


And, besides George Washington, no other presidential candidate could have done that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 19, 2019 02:40 PM (f3oO4)

176 Actually the beta bitch slow roll coup would have worked against any other GOPe because they're betas too. Thank God for DJT a legit old school Alpha male.

Posted by: kallisto at April 19, 2019 02:40 PM (AJwk0)

177 149 131
>>125 I want kelly ANNE to throw her fat shit husband to the side
of the road Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:32 PM (Y+V3r)
---------------------
Kelly Ann and her husband are playing a version of Sonny and Cher, with Sonny as the smart one. Pretty sure the family makes more money and serves a useful function in modeling the dopiness of Trump Hate.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (2LelM)

178 Michael Cohen's cell phone has been following me around town. It's driving a black BMW.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (/KIp3)

179 how was it that they did not spy on every candidate on the right? Who wold spy on Trump but not cruz, paul, bush, every one of them?

I'm certain they did, and have been since 2008 at least. Probably earlier.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (39g3+)

180 Obama had it out for Trump over the birth certificate. If this is a movie, that's the opening scene.

Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (q177U)

181 The "elites" are not so sophisticated. They were just flailing about like retards holding a powerful water hose.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair



That is a beautifully accurate simile - funny too.

Posted by: pep at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (T6t7i)

182 >>Who wold spy on Trump but not cruz, paul, bush, every one of them?

One SIGINT cut of Jeb! getting his toenails painted is one SIGINT cut too many.

Posted by: Zod at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (Bdeb0)

183 How well do I know about or believe the Trump scandals?

Well, firslty, starting during his campaign I noticed a significant disconnect between people running around with their hair on fire and what had actually occurred. This has led me to view anyone with their hair on fire with a level of skepticism.

Secondly, I noticed no difference between how policy or personality were addressed. Which led me to view anyone who portrays personality with the same seriousness as policy as profoundly unserious.

Thirdly, it's not Trump supporters with cognitive issues who answer questions such as, "What, in particular do you disagree with him about?" with incoherent animal noises such as "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (BD/yx)

184 >>You have to go deeper in the facts.
. . .
7. They wanted to do to Trump and his family what they did to Manafort and Stone.

Sarah Sanders nailed it when she said: they accused Trump of treason, which can carry a penalty of death.

They wanted to arrest/indict his kids, too.

Doing this for a Hillary win was only Phase 1.

And if they got away with it, who would be next?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (W+vEI)

185 I think French, and his fellow powerbottom boyz, are upset because French and company sold out to the highest bidder and they are miffed that President Trump, with all of his billions, didn't even make an offer.

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (WEBkv)

186 Does the NYT still have comments? If so, I'll bet they're pretty funny on this piece. Heads exploding all round.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (VaN/j)

187 169 Actually NGU the russkis aren't laughing about much these days. Oil prices are a bit better but their economy is mired in dysfunction. In any case they're of little consequence, whatever their mood.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (QDnY+)

Yup. Russia is in trouble. The idea that they are a major power that we need to defend Europe against, is ludicrous.

The EU has 12 times the GDP, and 5 times the population. Yet OUR troops are on the Russian border?

Posted by: Don Q at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

188 Alan Dershowitz

I've finished writing the 15 page introduction. Long day yesterday.

I've graded the Report and pointed out a fundamental error in its legal analysis.

Available on Amazon tomorrow. $7.99 Kindle

https://tinyurl.com/y3zfaglu

Posted by: Tami at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (cF8AT)

189 Come on, Barr. Let's have a formal review of the legitimacy of the SC appointment under DOJ regs, and recos for statutory fixes (at this point, both the independent, and special, counsel methods having been proven worthless or even pernicious, time to go back to no such authority or mechanism).



Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (QDnY+)

190 You would think at this point in his life French would have heard all the quotes about great men often not being good men, not making the perfect the enemy of the good, etc.

But he would prefer to screw the country over, letting the Democrats permanently embed into the culture tranny bathrooms, Iranian nukes and drilling and pipeline bans rather than hold his nose and vote for the distasteful orange dude...

Posted by: JEM at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (8erNz)

191 Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (/tuJf

I believe the overt surveillance was how the 47% statement got out.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (a/9Wy)

192 These people need an intervention.

"you're weak, you're out of control, and you have become an embarrassment to yourself and everyone around you."

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (LWu6U)

193 Have you ever argued with your wife about some small matter she was just sure about, but you knew she was wrong? When you finally prove she was wrong, she rolls her eyes and doesn't want to talk about it anymore.

That's being wrong.

But have you ever caught your wife lying? She says she's going shopping with friends and you suspect otherwise and catch her out with another guy? She will scream at you, throw things at you, change her lie, try to make it your fault and claim you're being an asshole for the way you respond and not trusting her.

That's f*cking lying.

Ask yourself which response you are getting from the media.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (L4IzB)

194 Actually NGU the russkis aren't laughing about much these days. Oil prices are a bit better but their economy is mired in dysfunction. In any case they're of little consequence, whatever their mood.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (QDnY+)

The Russians love to rat fuck us..a little vodka aliitle caviar and they are having a fine old party.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2019 02:43 PM (Y+V3r)

195

My respect for Steven Crowder has gone way up. I thought he was just another goofy jerkoff know-nothing like Joe Rogan. Crowder is very smart and well-informed.

I recommend his YT channel.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at April 19, 2019 02:43 PM (ah86I)

196 Dear Mr. French,

It's rich that after spending two years pushing a fake, illogical, ridiculous conspiracy theory that millions of us saw through in a New York minute, you still think anyone cares what you think, or welcomes your advice on the "type of man" we "free people" should want to lead our nation. (A nation, by the way, that does not have a Russian agent at its helm; a fact that- bizarrely -seems to annoy you.)

Frankly, I know, without any help from you, what type of person I want leading us: one who is loyal to his country, who fights back when unfairly and viciously attacked, who defends others who are unfairly vilified, who is not afraid to call out the wrongdoers, who does not kowtow to political correctness at the expense of the truth, and who truly understands that he works for the American citizens, not the global elites. Two years ago, I had no idea that man would be Donald Trump.

So you go ahead and vote for whoever you want; I'll be voting for President Trump.




Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2019 02:43 PM (XROPS)

197 I said this yesterday. Obama spied on Trump because he could and Halliary would win. Obama's dig at him at WHCD, Letterman top 10 (maybe Fallons tweet reading) , Obama wanted something on Trump because Trump pushed birth certificate.


Second, it was important in 2nd debate to get Trump on record to accept results. If he didn't, stuff would be leaked. Obviously none of this would have come out had Hillary been elected THOUGH IT ALL STILL OCCURRED.


Finally, Obama knew Hillary was weak. And knew Trump would take a wrecking ball to his pen and phone achievements.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 19, 2019 02:43 PM (aqric)

198 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2019 02:38 PM (39g3+)

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Hey there. I saw yesterday that you got Acrobat DC and published your PDF. Great!

Now, if you're willing to shell out for a subscription next time, I recommend you give InDesign a whirl for your next project. After using Publisher it will be like going from a 1988 Dodge Dakota to a Caterpillar mining dumper with a couple of jet engines in it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2019 02:43 PM (5aX2M)

199 When you finally prove she was wrong,

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Ummm..... theres a flaw in your premise.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 19, 2019 02:44 PM (8XRCm)

200 I have a serious question. What does David French think is going to happen? That there is going to be a redo on the 2016 election because Trump fucked a porn star and paid her off?

Seriously. What is David French's practical goal apart for the current world in which we live apart from telling us over and over and over again how much better of a Christian he is than we are? What actual, practical, obtainable goal does he have in mind?

Because, from where I sit, that Pharisee wants to sit there smelling his own farts.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 19, 2019 02:44 PM (GbPPJ)

201 We've just come out of a season of Ghost in the Shell, Stand Alone Complex.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 19, 2019 02:36 PM (3stai)

Don't look at me, that shit was in the 2nd gig

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 19, 2019 02:44 PM (8pLCd)

202 I think French, and his fellow powerbottom boyz, are upset because French and company sold out to the highest bidder and they are miffed that President Trump, with all of his billions, didn't even make an offer.

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 19, 2019 02:41 PM (WEBkv)


Trump's a salesman and marketer. He knew what they were worth, and boy, did that ever burn their britches.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:44 PM (hLRSq)

203 CNN kills lizard on live TV

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at April 19, 2019 02:45 PM (ekmuQ)

204 If this is a movie, that's the opening scene.

Yeah, that's the prologue to the story. Then "years later" shows on the screen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 19, 2019 02:45 PM (39g3+)

205 117 GOH for this abortion should be Lori Loughlin.

Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, and Les Moonves.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 19, 2019 02:30 PM (3RKQd)
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With that foursome, I feel sorry for Lori. She'll be mauled.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:45 PM (VaN/j)

206
I was watching Shitt's presser yesterday. He was outside, maybe in CA, and stood in front of a little podium with a very big United States House Of Representatives sign on it, like he was the president of something.

I was thinking Why Aren't I There Right Now Pelting This Piece of Shit With Tomatoes?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at April 19, 2019 02:46 PM (ah86I)

207 Mueller's view is extreme and dangerous to civil liberties because it creates pure thought crimes. According to Mueller, the corrupt motive is the crime because surely the constitutionally authorized act cannot be criminal. The implications of this view for all Americans are frightening. They are especially frightening if applied to a president. Do we really want prosecutors or members of Congress to probe the motivations of presidents when they take constitutionally authorized actions?

This is just the natural extension of the bullshit (and un-Constitutional) hate-crimes crap. There are crimes. Period. It doesn't matter if you hate the person you're committing the crime aginst, don't know them, don't care, or whatever. The crime is the crime.

Leftists love to pervert the system. THey abuse the notion of "intent" - a crime versus an accident - and start to eat away at the idea that THE IDEA is the crime, not the action. But, we've been heading this way even before the hate-crime crap, back when the courts started giving more and more leeway to ridiculous "insanity" defenses ... DEFENSES!! and even up to the latest SCOTUS outrage of claiming that a guy can't be held liable for his crime if he, all of a sudden, claims to forget it!!

Dershowitz makes a nice little statement, here, about Trump's legitimate action to fire Comey (and the right action - Trump would have been irresponsible NOT to have fired him) but I'm not so sure that Dershowitz is willing to really go after the lunatic rules we have built in our judiciary and courts concerning lawyers' alleged expertise in the finer points of the human psyche. It would be laughable if it wasn't so destabilizing and dangerous.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:46 PM (mTGg+)

208 Mueller's view is extreme and dangerous to civil liberties because it creates pure thought crimes. According to Mueller, the corrupt motive is the crime because surely the constitutionally authorized act cannot be criminal. The implications of this view for all Americans are frightening. They are especially frightening if applied to a president. Do we really want prosecutors or members of Congress to probe the motivations of presidents when they take constitutionally authorized actions?
Posted by: Tami at April 19, 2019 02:37 PM (cF8AT)

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I can point to a few rulings that already invoke "for the good of the community" rather than the actual law.

Is but a short step to use such devices against a sitting President.

Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 19, 2019 02:46 PM (WEBkv)

209 >>I believe the overt surveillance was how the 47% statement got out.

It was supposedly recorded by someone at the fundraiser who gave it to none other than David Corn. The same David Corn who just happened to have he Fusion dossier leaked to him.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:46 PM (/tuJf)

210 Ummm..... theres a flaw in your premise.

......

It's a hypothetical. Cut me some slack here.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2019 02:46 PM (L4IzB)

211 > ... because it creates pure thought crimes.

I agree that Trump has every right to fire the director of an executive-branch agency. But I don't understand the business about "pure thought crimes". Isn't intent often relevant to determining whether something is or isn't a crime? ("Intent to defraud," etc.)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (sGnvY)

212 180 Obama had it out for Trump over the birth certificate. If this is a movie, that's the opening scene.
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Just start the movie at the WH Correspondent's Dinner where Obama has the entire WH Press Corps set up Trump for humiliation by Obama. Then flash forward to Trump and Melania riding down from Heaven on a Yuge Gold Escalator. The name of the movie should be The Twelve Labors of Hercules.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (2LelM)

213 16
Notice we never actually see the things the Russians supposedly did on US social media to "interfere" in the '16 election?

I know why. Because they were ALL pro-radical-left posts, videos, and tweets.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at April 19, 2019 02:13 PM (ah86I)

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It's a matter of record that the Russians spent hundreds of dollars on Facebook ads to influence the 2016 elections.

And they slipped stupid pills into John Podesta's Sanka so he'd fall for a phishing attempt that wouldn't fool a 13 year old. And a Russian operative not named Seth Rich downloaded the DNC E-mails onto a thumb drive.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (/KIp3)

214 "It's Time for Them to Admit It."

Your kidding! Right?

Posted by: rah at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (QGdgs)

215 BTW, has anyone noticed that, for once, Jonah Goldberg himself got plagiarized? The entire MFM has stolen his "I never said it was about collusion" crap.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (VaN/j)

216 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (L4Iz

I love the bit started by Adam Carolla about when a know it all is proven wrong they end the conversation with ' yeah, but still. ....'

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:48 PM (a/9Wy)

217 I would bet a donut there was the beginning of surveillance on a few other Republicans, possibly computer hacking by the FBI. No way it just started with Trump.

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2019 02:49 PM (BbGew)

218 David French, I think I'll vote for Donald Trump again in a couple years.
You douchebag.

Posted by: gobagoo at April 19, 2019 02:50 PM (2Ia/C)

219 Actually joncelli as a status quo, now 2nd tier, power anywhere not contiguous, the Russians' nuke arsenal is far less important. A disruptive, aggressive 3rd tier power like today's Iran desperately seeks nukes primarily as a shield behind which to do more of what they are already doing. Their nukes are not all that important, as long as they stay under central state control.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 19, 2019 02:50 PM (QDnY+)

220 143 Willowed:

Willowed:

The very idea that Rod Rosenstein is anything but a duplicitous deep state weasel is silly.

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I know. Hope springs eternal. The guy fires Comey, as he was commanded to do, and then hires a man with close professional and personal and money connections to Comey to head up the Special Counsel.

The logic here is an obvious progression.

1.) Rod Rosenstein is an honest lawman, but the single most incompetent one in the country, and managed to rise to the top of the FBI by Chance the Gardener luck.

2.) Rod Rosenstein was a deep state crony, he and his friends viewed the Comey firing as a trigger for a coup, he installed one of Comey's homies to get the President and his crew, and now he's playing both sides against the middle to save his lousy skin.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2019 02:34 PM (5aX2M)
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It's simple enough. Rosenstein is just the modern incarnation of the Vicar of Bray. (if you don't know it, it's online.)

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:50 PM (VaN/j)

221 I can point to a few rulings that already invoke "for the good of the community" rather than the actual law.

Is but a short step to use such devices against a sitting President.
Posted by: Blake - used vacation salesman at April 19, 2019 02:46 PM (WEBkv)

Its the same line of reasoning that brought us 'the Constitution is not a suicide pact' so we can ignore it.

Posted by: Don Q at April 19, 2019 02:50 PM (NgKpN)

222 Can Obama become a convincing Scut Fergus?

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:51 PM (2LelM)

223 I saw Powerbottom Boyz open for Culture Club at the Hollywood Bowl in 1984.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at April 19, 2019 02:51 PM (2sCft)

224 >>The very idea that Rod Rosenstein is anything but a duplicitous deep state weasel is silly.

When Trump took over, he fired ever US attorney he inherited from Obama but 3.

Dana Boente who has since replaced James Baker, who was removed for leaking among other things, as the General Counsel of the FBI.

John Huber who is working with Horowitz.

Rod Rosenstein who he made Deputy Attorney General.

By the way, did you ever rewatch the presser and see that Rosenstein did indeed agree with Barr and not Mueller as you suggested?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:52 PM (/tuJf)

225 Anderson Cooper is acting gayer than hivshit today.

Posted by: x at April 19, 2019 02:52 PM (nFwvY)

226
The Russians love to rat fuck us..a little vodka aliitle caviar and they are having a fine old party.

...and a miniature giraffe or two...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 19, 2019 02:52 PM (HaL55)

227 I agree that Trump has every right to fire the director of an executive-branch agency. But I don't understand the business about "pure thought crimes". Isn't intent often relevant to determining whether something is or isn't a crime? ("Intent to defraud," etc.)
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (sGnvY)



You're referring to mens rea.

Let's take your example. The reason why intent to defraud is necessary for the crime is because the underlying action itself may not be criminal in and of itself.

Let's say I have a Mickey Mantle rookie baseball card. I sell it to you and tell you it's authentic. It is not.

If I believed it was authentic and sold it to you in good faith belief it was authentic, that is not fraud.

If I knew it was fake, then that's fraud.

The difference is taking actions that are not improper and deeming them improper due solely to intent.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (GbPPJ)

228 Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (2LelM)

Intent is not motive. Intent is "Did you intend to do this action."* Motive is "Why I intended to do this act."

*Things that would naturally flow from the acts you do are part of intent. You may not have intended to burn down the subdivision, but that is the natural consequence of playing with fireworks during a drought.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (hLRSq)

229 It's a matter of record that the Russians spent hundreds of dollars on Facebook ads to influence the 2016 elections.

And they slipped stupid pills into John Podesta's Sanka so he'd fall for a phishing attempt that wouldn't fool a 13 year old. And a Russian operative not named Seth Rich downloaded the DNC E-mails onto a thumb drive.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 19, 2019 02:47 PM (/KIp3)

Dah Comrade! Must be true, I heard it on Radio Liberty!

You know, Radio station dat used to be Radio Free Europe?

Posted by: Ivan Skavinsky Skavar at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (NgKpN)

230

I watched the presser again and saw a man who is dead inside.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (ah86I)

231 >>Finally, Obama knew Hillary was weak. And knew Trump would take a wrecking ball to his pen and phone achievements.


Yup.
Also, Trump was harping on Hillary's emails, and saying "lock her up."
You uncover her emails, you uncover that Obama knew, the rest of his cabinet and Obama himself were using email aliases to get around FOIA, you find out why/what they were emailing off govt. network and things get really interesting.

Obama emailed Hillary. He knew.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (W+vEI)

232 >>I watched the presser again and saw a man who is dead inside.

You should do more research.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:54 PM (/tuJf)

233 It's simple enough. Rosenstein is just the modern incarnation of the Vicar of Bray. (if you don't know it, it's online.)
Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 02:50 PM (VaN/j

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That's a good point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2019 02:54 PM (5aX2M)

234 The only question left: Who is going to step-in and save that poor, poor chicken the enemy-of-the-people media keep on fucking?

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at April 19, 2019 02:54 PM (2sCft)

235 It's not enough for them to admit they were wrong.

Posted by: Articulating Python at April 19, 2019 02:55 PM (BkYvb)

236
The EU has 12 times the GDP, and 5 times the population. Yet OUR troops are on the Russian border?
Posted by: Don

Have you been to Europe recently?

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2019 02:55 PM (Lro6y)

237 Pity, no comments section.

I'd love to see the Times commenters all stirred up like a bees nest with a rock thrown into it.

Posted by: West at April 19, 2019 02:55 PM (7Fa8Y)

238 >>I would bet a donut there was the beginning of surveillance on a few other Republicans, possibly computer hacking by the FBI. No way it just started with Trump.

IIRC, Trump has tweeted a question about them doing it to Ted Cruz.

Trump likes to ask questions for which he already knows the answer, so I inferred Obama did this.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (W+vEI)

239 I saw an ad in a Czech magazine for the same model of phone owned by Michael Cohen! Clear proof of collusion!!11!

Posted by: McClatchy News at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (hyUPo)

240 Alan Dershowitz: Who won, who lost in Mueller report

https://tinyurl.com/yy6ruwhx

Snip~

Barr takes the view - a view that I have argued for many months - that the act requirement of a crime (actus reus) cannot be satisfied by a constitutionally authorized action of the president, such as firing FBI Director James Comey. Mueller takes the view that a constitutionally authorized act can be turned into a crime if it is improperly motivated.

Mueller's view is extreme and dangerous to civil liberties because it creates pure thought crimes. According to Mueller, the corrupt motive is the crime because surely the constitutionally authorized act cannot be criminal. The implications of this view for all Americans are frightening. They are especially frightening if applied to a president. Do we really want prosecutors or members of Congress to probe the motivations of presidents when they take constitutionally authorized actions?
Posted by: Tami at April 19, 2019 02:37 PM (cF8AT)


I want Mueller's approach applied to Obama and his statements regarding Benghazi and the arrest of the video producer. Also, do Clinton please.

Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (XROPS)

241 Rosenslime remember signed off on a few FISA warrents

Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (BbGew)

242 Obama emailed Hillary. He knew.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (W+vEI)

What was that little shit's E-mail pseudonym ? I believe that info was released.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (a/9Wy)

243 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation."
OK.

*thinks*
Answer: It should not be anybody from the Dem party, at least half the Republican party, the uni-party establishment, Deep State and/or their hangers-on like David French.

Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (MxEKc)

244 Trump said pussy. Therefore impeach.
- our betters

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (FiUMj)

245 French spent the last two your credulously eating up nutty conspiracy theory talking points. Now he's credulously eating up Mueller/Weissman spin about Trump's behavior. What can you say, the guy will just eat whatever the Left gives him. Nothing to be done for him.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (hdzef)

246
Just start the movie at the WH Correspondent's Dinner where Obama has
the entire WH Press Corps set up Trump for humiliation by Obama.


That was pretty rude of them to do. But when you have no respect for anyone but yourself (because of your gigantic ego), that's the way you act.

Like an asshole.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (HaL55)

247
Okay, which one of you jack-offs pulled this stunt?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6939877

Note to self, never whack off in front of hottie MMA fighter.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (NMAzL)

248 I love the bit started by Adam Carolla about when a know it all is proven wrong they end the conversation with ' yeah, but still. ....'

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 02:48 PM (a/9Wy)

.....

Yeah, good stuff and so true.

But honestly I was thinking more of the Bill Burr bit about arguing with your girlfriend and his "turning the franchise around".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (VycSd)

249 >>Rosenslime remember signed off on a few FISA warrents

One. The last renewal for Carter Page.

And I think you will find that is not what it seems

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (/tuJf)

250 236
The EU has 12 times the GDP, and 5 times the population. Yet OUR troops are on the Russian border?
Posted by: Don

Have you been to Europe recently?
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Don's point is valid. We are in Europe and on Russia's borders for one reason only, to avenge Russia for failing Communism. Just check out who is insanely interested in Russia and you will find a shit ton of disappointed socialists and hungry Hedge Fund Managers.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (2LelM)

251 I can't wait for Jazzhand s to disclose his source on the stand under oath.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Lro6y)

252 Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:52 PM (/tuJf)

I think Rosenstein is treading water.

He could have stopped a lot of this at the outset, but went along with it because other stronger players were running the agenda.

He KNEW a lot of this was going on, but was not a driver of the plot.

Now, he is helping as he can, to save his own skin.

I've changed my opinion of him. I don't think he is nefarious, so much as weak.

Posted by: Ivan Skavinsky Skavar at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (NgKpN)

253 I want Mueller's approach applied to Obama and his statements regarding Benghazi and the arrest of the video producer. Also, do Clinton please.
Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2019 02:56 PM (XROPS)

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Dont forget Eric "I'm Bama's Wingman" Holder...

Posted by: fixerupper at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (8XRCm)

254 Obama emailed Hillary. He knew.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2019 02:53 PM (W+vEI)


Yep. Everybody knew. They all knew about the particulars of this electronic communication because Barky's junta was reamed out, early on, for trying to use their personal blackberries to conduct government business. This was a big thing - and a public issue - waaay back when Barky first slimed into office and was having terrible difficulties getting anything together.

And they had already gone through the whole "Richard Windsor" stuff, too. Which also ended up being very public. They knew.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (mTGg+)

255 Dems. RINO's, and MSM players not directly involved in CREATING the lie suffered from what I call

EMOTIONALLY INDUCED STUPIDITY

This whole thing also should make us all aware it is past time for TERM LIMITS for House and Senate.

AND--We must INSIST that congress is NOT EXEMPT from any law it has passed.

Who really believes OBAMACARE would have passed if Congress was required to use it too???

Posted by: rld77WITH COFFEE from way down south at April 19, 2019 02:59 PM (cseAX)

256
One. The last renewal for Carter Page.

And I think you will find that is not what it seems
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (/tuJf)


Has Jonah Goldberg ever apologized for calling Carter Page a wannabe spy?

That still makes my blood boil to think about.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 19, 2019 02:59 PM (GbPPJ)

257 246
Just start the movie at the WH Correspondent's Dinner where Obama has
the entire WH Press Corps set up Trump for humiliation by Obama.

That was pretty rude of them to do. But when you have no respect for anyone but yourself (because of your gigantic ego), that's the way you act.

Like an asshole.
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And in three years Trump had punked Obama and Hillary again. Don't fuck with Trump should be tattooed on Sparky's forehead.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 02:59 PM (2LelM)

258 Would not French's reasoning entail that he would have opposed Henry VIII's break with Rome? He was not the kind of man French would have wanted to affiliate with, either.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 19, 2019 03:00 PM (VaN/j)

259 >> Has Jonah Goldberg ever apologized

He still can't afford a pair of pants.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 19, 2019 03:00 PM (NMAzL)

260 McCabe swears Rosenstein offered to wear a wire in order to assist in determining if the 25th Amendment would apply. That allegation is more than serious and one or the other is out right lying. Of course I would bet my money on McCabe lying but also I believe that the subject was discussed in some manner . In what context is the key.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 03:00 PM (a/9Wy)

261 For everyone observing Good Friday or the first day of Passover, I wish you well. For the people on the left, I wish you the Hillary Hangover of Nov. 9, 2016, at the very least.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 19, 2019 03:00 PM (aWjrD)

262 190 You would think at this point in his life French would have heard all the quotes about great men often not being good men, not making the perfect the enemy of the good, etc.

But he would prefer to screw the country over, letting the Democrats permanently embed into the culture tranny bathrooms, Iranian nukes and drilling and pipeline bans rather than hold his nose and vote for the distasteful orange dude...
Posted by: JEM at April 19, 2019 02:42 PM (8erNz)


And how many years have we been lectured that we have to hold our noses and vote for RINOs like McCain and Romney? Funny how that doesn't work both ways.

Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2019 03:00 PM (xjiRE)

263 > The difference is taking actions that are not improper and deeming them improper due solely to intent.

Ah, yes, that makes sense, thanks. If the rookie card was legitimate, it wouldn't matter whether I had the intent to defraud you or anything else.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at April 19, 2019 03:01 PM (sGnvY)

264 236
The EU has 12 times the GDP, and 5 times the population. Yet OUR troops are on the Russian border?
Posted by: Don

Have you been to Europe recently?
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2019 02:55 PM (Lro6y)


Recently? no.


But why is MY Tax dollar going to defend those who will not defend themselves?


Posted by: Don Q at April 19, 2019 03:01 PM (NgKpN)

265 Seriously. What is David French's practical goal apart for the current world in which we live apart from telling us over and over and over again how much better of a Christian he is than we are? What actual, practical, obtainable goal does he have in mind?

Because, from where I sit, that Pharisee wants to sit there smelling his own farts.
Posted by: alexthechick


It's narcissistic rage.

There doesn't have to be a rational endgame. He simply wants revenge and a return to normalcy in Sodom upon the Potomac.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2019 03:01 PM (uAgHA)

266 One. The last renewal for Carter Page.

And I think you will find that is not what it seems
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (/tuJf)

Who signed off on the others?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 03:01 PM (a/9Wy)

267 I've changed my opinion of him. I don't think he is nefarious, so much as weak.
Posted by: Ivan Skavinsky Skavar at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (NgKpN)

Oh come on, just look at him, he's got such a strong face!

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2019 03:01 PM (k1TUh)

268 260 Baker also corroborates McCabe.

Posted by: steevy at April 19, 2019 03:02 PM (AjVAj)

269 One. The last renewal for Carter Page.

And I think you will find that is not what it seems
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 02:57 PM (/tuJf)


WHEEE! I think Christmas is coming early this year!

Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2019 03:02 PM (XROPS)

270 Rosenpenis is a process guy, he is in a sling over the FISA warrants and wants to resign ASAP.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2019 03:02 PM (Lro6y)

271 Has Jonah Goldberg ever apologized for calling Carter Page a wannabe spy?

That still makes my blood boil to think about.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 19, 2019 02:59 PM (GbPPJ)


Admit that he was wrong?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pick up a copy of From Redaction With Love at The Outrage Outlet! at April 19, 2019 03:03 PM (hLRSq)

272 He still can't afford a pair of pants.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 19, 2019 03:00 PM (NMAzL)

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That pantless sonofabitch is in a deep pants deficit and it gets worse with every chocolate covered side of beef he crams into his snout, because of increased material costs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2019 03:03 PM (5aX2M)

273
And in three years Trump had punked Obama and Hillary again. Don't fuck with Trump should be tattooed on Sparky's forehead.

Yep. Revenge is a dish best served on Official White House dinner plates.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at April 19, 2019 03:03 PM (HaL55)

274 273
And in three years Trump had punked Obama and Hillary again. Don't fuck with Trump should be tattooed on Sparky's forehead.

Yep. Revenge is a dish best served on Official White House dinner plates.
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You made me snort. Good one.

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 03:04 PM (2LelM)

275 They're wriggling like a frog on a gig because they know Trump is a threat to their existence as they know it. If they don't constantly impede and contain him, he will rip out the guts of the crooked system they all live off of.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 19, 2019 03:04 PM (oVJmc)

276 his True Crime was colluding with dirty, filthy, non-Beltway Americans to get elected.

Posted by: t-bird at April 19, 2019 03:04 PM (Ydn2k)

277 Because, from where I sit, that Pharisee wants to sit there smelling his own farts.
Posted by: alexthechick


Ahem, I do not "fart", ewww. I pass gas. And yes, it does smell delicious.

Posted by: David French at April 19, 2019 03:05 PM (FTPVM)

278 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2019 03:06 PM (ycWCI)

279 It's narcissistic rage.

There doesn't have to be a rational endgame. He simply wants revenge and a return to normalcy in Sodom upon the Potomac.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 19, 2019 03:01 PM (uAgHA)


On top of all of that, it's just plain old stupid.

Donald Trump has been synonymous with womanizing, money, and outrageous displays of wealth for, what, 40 years?

The American public knew exactly what kind of person Trump was. That French has his panties in a twist that anyone would vote for him anyway does not mean that people were unaware of who Trump is as a person.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 19, 2019 03:06 PM (GbPPJ)

280 I've changed my opinion of him. I don't think he is nefarious, so much as weak.
Posted by: Ivan Skavinsky Skavar at April 19, 2019 02:58 PM (NgKpN)

Not exactly; go back and look at Baker's testimony carefully. Baker said McCabe told him the same story, but he wasn't present when it happened and had no independent way of knowing whether McCabe was telling him the truth or not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 19, 2019 03:06 PM (k1TUh)

281 This is why there will be blood.

They will never appreciate reality any other way.

and

The country can't function with its media stuck in a delusion that POTUS is a Russian Spy.

Tinker, Tailor, Potus, Spy

Posted by: simplemind at April 19, 2019 03:09 PM (luFzW)

282 >>Not exactly; go back and look at Baker's testimony carefully. Baker said McCabe told him the same story, but he wasn't present when it happened and had no independent way of knowing whether McCabe was telling him the truth or not.

It was reported in the Washington Post of all places that another person in the meeting said Rosenstein was responding sarcastically to McCabe when McCabe brought up the idea of the 25 Amendment.

Baker was NOT in the meeting. He was quoting what one of the key operatives in the coup and a guy who was fired by the FBI OPR (thanks to Rosenstein) for lying told him. Andrew McCabe.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 03:10 PM (/tuJf)

283 275 They're wriggling like a frog on a gig because they know Trump is a threat to their existence as they know it. If they don't constantly impede and contain him, he will rip out the guts of the crooked system they all live off of.
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This is True. He will also laugh at them. That is unforgiveable. (see Mr. French from NR for an example).

Posted by: Puddin Head - CNN at April 19, 2019 03:10 PM (2LelM)

284 >>Who signed off on the others?

Sally Yates, the person Rosenstein replaced and Comey among others.

It's not just one person and Rosenstein was never the affiant on any FISA.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

285 Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 03:10 PM (/tuJf)

I believe McCabe is lying about the context. But I also didn't like Rosenstein's threat to Congress which was not sarcastic.

I don't think Rosenstein is part of the coup at all but I also don't think of him as a protector of Trump or the truth.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 03:14 PM (a/9Wy)

286 Who signed off on the others?

Sally Yates, the person Rosenstein replaced and Comey among others.

It's not just one person and Rosenstein was never the affiant on any FISA.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

I wasn't questioning the fact Rosenstein only signed off on the renewal .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at April 19, 2019 03:16 PM (a/9Wy)

287 >>I wasn't questioning the fact Rosenstein only signed off on the renewal

Roger. There just seems to be a lot of confusion on that process. Not all signatures are the same.

The affiant, the one who swears that the evidence is true and that the Woods Procedures have been followed, is the person who is screwed because neither of those things is true. Rosenstein was not the affiant.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2019 03:18 PM (/tuJf)

288 A whole bunch of media people are now completely screwed by their own actions and there is really no way out of it besides bluster --

1) they knew and they lied; and/or

2) they are so gullible they were fooled and passed along untruths without knowing they were lying.

Either way, what the hell does anyone need with their input or opinion? Why listen to a liar or a fool?

So, these people have no choice but to continue their horseshit. If they stop, the last remnant of people they are still fooling about the value of their opinion will also have a moment of peace, and during that moment a small percentage may even realize the folly of listening to any of these assholes.

So, their current financial existence now depends on doubling down no matter how it appears. Why should they continue to get $$millions/year if they have zero credibility? Their employers may soon realize how much they have to gain by replacing these assholes with new liars/fools that at least have a clean slate with a chance for credibility?

Posted by: jc at April 19, 2019 03:21 PM (PuMKG)

289 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation."

So, it's not the icky Trump, right, Mr. French? But what kind of man proffers and upholds a blatant lie -- for two-plus years -- no matter the insane permutations it may take or how much collateral damage it inflicts on the country at large? How is THAT man preferable to lead the world's greatest nation?

Posted by: red speck at April 19, 2019 03:21 PM (6Krd7)

290 Still waiting on Kevin D Williamson, who poses as a morbidly obese quasi-libertarian, to express any concern whatsoever about the apparently low bar to get a FISA warrant on an American citizen. A written word of passing curiosity, any flash of interest at all from the virgin ogre?

Posted by: Stout at April 19, 2019 03:57 PM (EHSFD)

291 And this Russia-Trump thing right on the heels of the Kavanaugh hearing debacle. Does anyone know how to journalize anymore?

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at April 19, 2019 04:23 PM (8JWHR)

292 The Buskirk column is superb. I sent it to about 10 friends first thing this am.

I'm still stunned it made it by the censors at the Times.
And the comment section is a combination of being hilarious, and scary. Wow, these left wing nuts really are deranged.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at April 19, 2019 04:28 PM (RLiOt)

293 21
Keep waiting for someone to break ranks in the MSM. There was a very
brief moment for some on 2016 election night but they all quickly fell
in line by morning. Really is something how they stick together.


Me too. Gonna be a long wait.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at April 19, 2019 04:30 PM (RLiOt)

294 "What psychological purpose does adding the fiction of a conspiracy serve?"

Well, it let's you wiretap. Even ex post facto permission. And if you rub out the staffer who leaked your emails on the sidewalk at three am, it's good to have Russians to blame for the leaks.

Posted by: Phil Kimby at April 19, 2019 04:43 PM (g5UVy)

295 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation. It should not be this man."

Yeah--that's what the Police State said, too.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 19, 2019 07:39 PM (Ndje9)

296 "A free people should ask what kind of man they want at the helm of the world's greatest nation. It should not be this man."

We do ask, and then we vote. French is dangerous.

Posted by: Quilp at April 19, 2019 11:55 PM (Bf3hj)

297 You guys still don't get it. Volume 2 of the "report" was not meant to address collusion one way or the other, but to give the Dems a blueprint on winning the 2020 election. In short, the Dems WON...and won BIG.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at April 20, 2019 10:19 AM (SH7Tr)

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