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Did the FBI Set Up the Alleged "Russian Contacts" of Flynn and Papadopolous and Later Misrepresent Them to a Court as Having Been Arranged by Their Targets Rather Than Themselves?

Item One: George Papadopoulos claims that an "FBI attache" encouraged him to meet with academic Josef Misfud, which would later be claimed to be a "Russian contact."

Saturday evening, Papadopoulos rocked Twitter with claims that "a woman in London, who was the FBI’s legal attache in the U.K." encouraged him "to meet Joseph Mifsud in Rome in March 2016." These new revelations raise fresh concerns that, with the approval of the FBI, foreign governments were meddling in the 2016 election.



He has since updated his claims:






So his series of claims are now:

An FBI attache suggested he contact Misfud.

Misfud, out of the blue, informs him that Russia may have Hillary emails. (Something everyone was speculating about at the time -- hardly some kind of juicy RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE SECRET.)

He also says that Misfud himself has FBI, not Kremlin, ties.

Then Papadoplous mentions Misfud's gossip about Hillary's emails to an Australian diplomat named Alexander Downer, and Downer reports him to the FBI, and suddenly Papadopoulos is a spy being investigated by the FBI due the prompting of 1, and FBI attache telling him to take a meeting with Misfud, 2, the FBI asset Misfud dropping some random garbage gossip in his lap, and then him telling that to a 3, an Australian diplomat who's also in close contact with the FBI.

Sheesh! The only thing that would make this look more like a frame-up with the FBI providing the garbage gossip it would later claim to be Trafficking in Russian Intel would be if, say, Josef Misfud actually knew the diplomat Downer.

Which... he just might.




Item Two: Stefan Halper, the FBI's Helper, now identified as an FBI covert operative who worked with them on the Russia hoax, was part of setting up the dinner in Flynn's honor and, presumably, seating him across the table from a Russian academic that would later be claimed to be some kind of Russian spy.

Video reports by Catherine Herridge below.

Here's Chuck Ross' report:

A Cambridge University post-graduate student is speaking out about her interactions with Stefan Halper, a former Cambridge professor who was revealed in 2018 as a longtime FBI and CIA informant.

Svetlana Lokhova claims Halper was behind false allegations provided to U.S. intelligence that she attempted to compromise Michael Flynn at an event held at Cambridge in 2014.

Halper is known to have made contact with three Trump campaign aides -- Carter Page, Sam Clovis and George Papadopoulos. His links to Flynn have largely gone unexplored.

Svetlana Lokhova did not get along with Stefan Halper, which is what she says made a dinner invitation to the Cambridge University professor's home in January 2016 all the more peculiar.

He invited her? Of course he did.


"Halper was a lurking presence with a horrible aura -- I avoided him," said Lokhova, a Cambridge post-graduate student who studies Soviet-era espionage.


Lokhova dodged the invitation to Halper's home, which she said was sent to her by Christopher Andrew, a Cambridge professor and official historian for MI5, the British domestic intelligence service. But the past three years have revealed new details about Halper and other activities that went on at Cambridge that have caused Lokhova to question why she was asked to that dinner at Halper's.

For one, a series of stories that appeared in the press in early 2017 heavily implied Lokhova was a Russian agent who tried to suborn Michael Flynn at a dinner hosted at Cambridge on Feb. 28, 2014. Flynn served at the time as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

A year after those stories appeared, The Daily Caller News Foundation reported Halper cozied to three Trump campaign advisers, Carter Page, Sam Clovis and George Papadopoulos. In May 2018, Halper was revealed as a longtime CIA and FBI informant, a revelation that led President Donald Trump to accuse the FBI of planting a spy in his campaign. The Republican coined the term "Spygate" to describe the alleged scandal.

After Halper's links to American intelligence were revealed, The New York Times and The Washington Post reported he and another Cambridge luminary, former MI6 chief Richard Dearlove, raised concerns about Lokhova's contacts with Flynn that were subsequently passed to American and British intelligence.

Boy, Halper, the IC's Helper, sure did want this woman who loathed him at a place he had also invited Flynn to! Wonder why!

"What Halper staged is a textbook 'black-op' to dirty up the reputation of a political opponent. He needed an innocuous social event to place Flynn in a room with a woman who was ethnically Russian. I was unlucky he picked me," Lokhova told TheDCNF.

Oh right, that's why.





Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:05 PM




Comments

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1 FIRST!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 05, 2019 12:06 PM (jjaLl)

2 What a coincidence!! I'll call the masses....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 05, 2019 12:06 PM (jjaLl)

3 Yes!

OK, now to read the content...

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:08 PM (W+vEI)

4 Misfud

That guy needs to be shackled and flown to a Black Ops site for debriefing.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:09 PM (kehhC)

5 Loofah!

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at April 05, 2019 12:09 PM (qC1Sy)

6 Or, in other words, as you (ace) said way over a year ago:

"It's all an op."


and as an attempt to overthrow the lawfully elected government, punishable under Federal law.

Ha - ha, how amusing.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:09 PM (wA4OO)

7 Spying?

Posted by: rd at April 05, 2019 12:10 PM (EK+Pw)

8 Man this stuff is too complicated for me to follow.

Posted by: gp at April 05, 2019 12:11 PM (mk9aG)

9 Siwwy Poopadopowous.

Posted by: Elmer Misfudd at April 05, 2019 12:12 PM (vtcmf)

10

What a Downer, man!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 12:12 PM (aKsyK)

11 FBI.

I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest over the criminal enterprise their bureau has become and forfeit that huge govmint salary, retirement and expense account.

Abolish the FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 05, 2019 12:12 PM (Z+IKu)

12 "...former MI6 chief Richard Dearlove"

AKA: Dick Dearlove

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (cF8AT)

13 This whole thing smacks of people who've been in power so long and gotten so lazy and sloppy they were relying on staying in power so nobody looked closely at anything. I mean this is some seriously sloppy work. And I'm not gonna do the "if true" disclaimer because I'm certain it all is.

These guys just assumed they would win and get away with it no matter how awful the work was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (39g3+)

14 "4 Misfud

That guy needs to be shackled and flown to a Black Ops site for debriefing.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:09 PM (kehhC) "



As one of maybe 100 others who need that treatment.

100 is strictly a SWAG number; almost surely there will be many more as investigations proceed.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (wA4OO)

15 I know I'm fairly naive about these things and sometimes get lost in the weeds with all these machinations, but isn't the FBI supposed to be a DOMESTIC law enforcement agency. What's with all the Italian spies and Austrian diplomats and British prosecutors???

Posted by: Muldoon at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (m45I2)

16 >>I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest over the criminal enterprise their bureau has become and forfeit that huge govmint salary, retirement and expense account.



Hahahaha!


Rank
...and File Under Easy Listening.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (kehhC)

17 But, the e-mails were all authentic and despicable.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (1ISKN)

18 our forefathers would already have all the lampposts filled with ropes and bodies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 05, 2019 12:14 PM (pw+jk)

19 Dick Dearlove

Does he have a newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at April 05, 2019 12:14 PM (vtcmf)

20 >>AKA: Dick Dearlove

They do!

Posted by: Deer Fucking Monkey at April 05, 2019 12:14 PM (kehhC)

21 Didn't Mifsud also give Papadopolus $10k in cash, and the Papadopolous was pulled aside at the airport for an extra search upon returning to the U.S. --- likely indicating he was set up to have this payment on him?

The only thing was that Pap left the $10k in London.

OK, have to go dig up that story to see if I am remembering it correctly. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:14 PM (W+vEI)

22 Glad I never volunteered to work for the Trump Campaign.

I would have been identified as a Russian, Chinese, Iranian, German, French, Israeli, and any competent intelligence agency spy. I have always said everyone has Hillarys emails. Since April 2016 I have said that.

Everyone has her email records.

Posted by: rd at April 05, 2019 12:14 PM (EK+Pw)

23 What's with all the Italian spies and Austrian diplomats and British "

Boris and Natascha were busy...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 05, 2019 12:15 PM (6qErC)

24 21>> I remember reading that too. His trip was paid for by Mifsud.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 05, 2019 12:15 PM (1ISKN)

25
Hamburger Halper...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 05, 2019 12:15 PM (zBaqJ)

26
This whole thing smacks of people who've been in power so long and gotten so lazy and sloppy they were relying on staying in power so nobody looked closely at anything. I mean this is some seriously sloppy work. And I'm not gonna do the "if true" disclaimer because I'm certain it all is.


Sounds like Obama thought he was a better black ops guy than his black ops guys and planned the thing himself.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (TAmPV)

27 Catherine Herridge is one of the few reporters on the teevee who does reporting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (fuK7c)

28 Who needs enemies when you have the FIB?

If I am ever on a jury and the evidence is from the FIB I vote for acquittal of the defendant(s).

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (pw+jk)

29 These guys just assumed they would win and get away with it no matter how awful the work was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (39g3+)

These coup plotters knew Barry had their backs because he ordered the op. They also figured, along with every DNC talking airhead, that Her Royal Thighness would win and bury the op deeper than Barry's birth and college records.

They were not only sloppy, they were cocky. That's a deadly combination.

Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (Y8PSl)

30 21. I think he left it in Greece with a Greek lawyer?

Posted by: rd at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (EK+Pw)

31 These people need to retire with full benefits, book deals, and think-tank jobs at once!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do not sock a cob at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (xyung)

32 Lizzy found this:

Papadopoulos gave the money to an attorney in Greece before traveling back to the U.S., a source told TheDCNF on the condition of anonymity. Papadopoulos was arrested at Dulles International Airport on a return trip from overseas on July 27, 2017.

https://tinyurl.com/y4oclbfq

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (cF8AT)

33 >>Sounds like Obama thought he was a better black ops guy than his black ops guys and planned the thing himself.


1/2 Black Ops

Not as effective.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (kehhC)

34 29 These guys just assumed they would win and get away with it no matter how awful the work was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (39g3+)

These coup plotters knew Barry had their backs because he ordered the op. They also figured, along with every DNC talking airhead, that Her Royal Thighness would win and bury the op deeper than Barry's birth and college records.

They were not only sloppy, they were cocky. That's a deadly combination.
Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (Y8PSl)

===========

The comedy film that ends up getting made about this whole episode is going to be hilarious and in line with The Death of Stalin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (XSSCs)

35 Dick Dearlove is such a quintessentially British name. It's all that boarding school, don't you know?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (m45I2)

36 That could be the plot to a pretty good movie.


I would say unbelievable, except that I believe it.

Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:18 PM (XROPS)

37 100 is strictly a SWAG number; almost surely there will be many more as investigations proceed.

'Guilty until proven innocent' is the only reasonable way of approaching Obama's Cabinet.

As I've said before, that wasn't a Cabinet, that was a Cellblock.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:18 PM (8erNz)

38 The plop thickens.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at April 05, 2019 12:18 PM (cmnOe)

39 These guys just assumed they would win and get away with it no matter how awful the work was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:13 PM (39g3+)

--

The sad part is they're probably going to get away with it anyway.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do not sock a cob at April 05, 2019 12:18 PM (xyung)

40 I think this is going to be very awkward for Mueller. We now know that the man who told me this information was working with the FBI, not Russia. Hence, the entire investigation was an entrapment op against Trump and his team by Comey-Brennan-Obama.

---------------

Quite the sensational charge. I can hardly wait for MSM to jump all over this and give it the thorough investigation such a charge needs.

While I'm at it, I will go milk some skittles from my unicorn.

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at April 05, 2019 12:18 PM (qC1Sy)

41 Old and busted: Russian honey pot trap

New hotness: Russian piss pot trap

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 05, 2019 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)

42 Papadopoulos gave the money to an attorney in Greece before traveling back to the U.S., a source told TheDCNF on the condition of anonymity. Papadopoulos was arrested at Dulles International Airport on a return trip from overseas on July 27, 2017.

https://tinyurl.com/y4oclbfq

So he's not as stupid as some have tried to make him out to be, or at least the setup was so blatant that anyone could figure it out.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:20 PM (8erNz)

43 As an academic study this is fine... In reality, all of the bad players involved in this slow motion coup will get away with it.

Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at April 05, 2019 12:20 PM (flINI)

44 Sounds like Obama thought he was a better black ops guy than his black ops guys and planned the thing himself.


1/2 Black Ops

Not as effective.
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (kehhC)



*snort*

Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:20 PM (XROPS)

45 What a complex plot that this speculation opens up. I wonder when any part of the truth of it will come out?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (hLRSq)

46 Yes, of course they did. They framed him.

Next question.

Posted by: thirteen28 at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (GdJ+p)

47 Here it is -- not Mifsud, but another guy:

Mueller said that Papadopoulos told investigators about $10,000 in cash that he received from a foreign national who he suspected to be a foreign spy.

The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned that a man named Charles Tawil gave Papadopoulos $10,000 during a meeting in an Israeli hotel room in July 2017.

Sources familiar with the matter told TheDCNF Tawil flew to the Greek island of Mykonos to meet Papadopoulos and his now-wife, Simona Mangiante Papadopoulos. Tawil invited the pair to Israel, but Mangiante Papadopoulos stayed behind.

Papadopoulos gave the money to an attorney in Greece before traveling back to the U.S., a source told TheDCNF on the condition of anonymity.

Papadopoulos was arrested at Dulles International Airport on a return trip from overseas on July 27, 2017.

Papadopoulos and Tawil met through an Israeli political strategist named David Ha'ivri.
Ha'ivri told TheDCNF said that he introduced the pair "at my own initiative" to facilitate a business deal involving an oil and gas project in the Aegean and Mediterranean seas.

Ha'ivri said that Tawil "is a part time consultant for companies that operate in Africa and Middle East." He believed when he introduced Tawil to Papadopoulos that the former Trump aide had "good connections" in the Eastern Mediterranean and Middle East.

Riiiiiight.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (W+vEI)

48 35 Dick Dearlove is such a quintessentially British name. It's all that boarding school, don't you know?

And the buggery and the Communism that derive therefrom.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (8erNz)

49 Sounds like Obama thought he was a better black ops guy than his black ops guys and planned the thing himself.


1/2 Black Ops

Not as effective.
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (kehhC)

=====

Mocha Ops... doesn't sound as cool

Posted by: Phil Hartmark F/K/A Truck Monkey at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (flINI)

50 21 I think the $10K he was supposed to be carrying when met at the airport was given to him by an Israeli and it was for consulting work related to Eastern Mediterranean gas, which Papadapoulos had written about.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (YE5vl)

51 This spy business sucks!

FBI promised me beautiful Bond girl like Daniela Bianchi.

Instead they give me Rachel Maddow! Who was also promised Daniela Bianchi!

Posted by: Joseph Mifsud at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (DuAZ5)

52 This spy business sucks!
FBI promised me beautiful Bond girl like Daniela Bianchi.
Instead they give me Rachel Maddow!
Posted by: Joseph Mifsud
===================
Tell me about it!

I asked for someone like KGB Agent Triple X.

They gave me Nellie Ohr!

Posted by: Stefan Halper at April 05, 2019 12:21 PM (DuAZ5)

53 33 >>Sounds like Obama thought he was a better black ops guy than his black ops guys and planned the thing himself.


1/2 Black Ops

Not as effective.
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (kehhC)

Hilarious!!

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 05, 2019 12:22 PM (vkS2Z)

54 So they were going to a tremendous amount of trouble to frame the Trump campaign ( I was saying that Clinton would hit the ground running WAY back) yet they also were sure Hillary would win by 1 million percent.

Isn't that odd? Unless, of course either they knew she was in trouble, or they wanted to have this whole frame up and subsequent spying via FISA and then anything they could get from that ready to completely destroy Trump and republicans and future republicans....

Were Obama and the Clintons doing this since the 90s? Or has the CIA been just setting people up since it went full left? Is this about the current lefties or has this been going on forever?

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 12:22 PM (nRWPy)

55 Arvinder Sambei also worked on Mueller's SC. Anyone on twitter should follow @thunderb and @wakeywakey16. Wealth of information.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:22 PM (Brfdf)

56 >>https://tinyurl.com/y4oclbfq
Posted by: Tami

Heh, thanks!!
My memory sucks.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:22 PM (W+vEI)

57 I think the $10K he was supposed to be carrying when met at the airport was given to him by an Israeli

---

The Russians AND the Jews!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Do not sock a cob at April 05, 2019 12:22 PM (xyung)

58 Watergate is laughable child's play to this enormous scandal. It should be rocking this country to its very core.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (JoUsr)

59 If those assholes in the FBI and CIA had just followed my detailed instructions everything would have gone just fine. Those people must hate gay black men.

Posted by: Barak Obama at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (pw+jk)

60 43: We must not be perceived as harassing our opposition..only our democrat colleagues may do that!!

Posted by: Snoreregard forevah! at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)

61 1/2 Black Ops

Not as effective.

Well, that's better than Octoroon Ops.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (8erNz)

62 How many W-2s do these guys have to file? 10-99s?

Posted by: BignJames at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (ykq7q)

63 The comedy film that ends up getting made about this whole episode is going to be hilarious and in line with The Death of Stalin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (XSSCs)


It is a pity Peter Sellers isn't around to do this.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (hLRSq)

64 Molotov Cocktease. We meet again.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (NWiLs)

65 The entire thing was a set-up involving the FBI, the NSA, FISA Courts and the media.

Which tells you what?

The polling showed all along Trump was going to win and they knew it and developed the Plan B Presidential Abortion Pill.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (YA914)

66 My kid (adult, but still) has a job interview today to get on at the shipyard in WA... prayers if you've got them. Thanks.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (BD/yx)

67 Christopher Taylor, I believe they were intentionally sloppy. The Clintons are famous for punishing their enemies and rewarding their friends, and everyone knew Hillary was going to win. They wanted it to be an open secret that they were team players.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (YE5vl)

68 27 Catherine Herridge is one of the few reporters on the teevee who does reporting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch


c.f. Jennifer Griffin, Mollie Hemingway, Sharyl Atkisson...

The men don't seem to be holding up their end.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (wW03z)

69 Law enforcement set up sting operations all of the time. The prisons are flush with convicts who took the bait.

Posted by: Speller at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (pSotA)

70 63 The comedy film that ends up getting made about this whole episode is going to be hilarious and in line with The Death of Stalin.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at April 05, 2019 12:17 PM (XSSCs)


It is a pity Peter Sellers isn't around to do this.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (hLRSq)

=========

Or Kubrick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (XSSCs)

71 This is a movie that has already written itself.

Posted by: Caliban at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (QE8X6)

72 They also arranged for someone to give Papadop 10 grand in cash. When they arrested him at the airport, they were planning on getting him for not declaring the cash, but he left it in Europe. Mueller then had to improvise as they did not have an arrest warrant.

Posted by: MikeN at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (o/eHL)

73 59 If those assholes in the FBI and CIA had just followed my detailed instructions everything would have gone just fine. Those people must hate gay black men.
Posted by: Barak Obama at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (pw+jk)

Preach it brother! Oh, and you think you can help with that letter thing?

Posted by: Jussie Smollett, Too Queer To Be Bad at April 05, 2019 12:25 PM (8erNz)

74 "37 100 is strictly a SWAG number; almost surely there will be many more as investigations proceed.

'Guilty until proven innocent' is the only reasonable way of approaching Obama's Cabinet.

As I've said before, that wasn't a Cabinet, that was a Cellblock.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:18 PM (8erNz) "




Yeah, we're on the same page with that, for sure.
Perp-walked directly to the next open lamp post / tree.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:25 PM (wA4OO)

75 Also gone unmentioned was that question from Hillarity! during the campaign to Trump as to whether he would accept the results of the election. She knew it was rigged and if he fought a losing election result, this op would have him in jail for life.

Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 12:25 PM (Y8PSl)

76 Dick Dearlove is such a quintessentially British name. It's all that boarding school, don't you know?

-
Natty Bumppo, the Deer Slayer > Dearlove

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 05, 2019 12:25 PM (+y/Ru)

77 58: That's ridiculous! Jeopardize the people's trust in our most sacred institutions, like the DOJ, FBI and DNC?

Posted by: Snoreregard forevah! at April 05, 2019 12:26 PM (U7k5w)

78
The men don't seem to be holding up their end.


Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (wW03z)


With the exception of John Solomon.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 12:26 PM (TAmPV)

79 >>The comedy film that ends up getting made about this whole episode is going to be hilarious and in line with The Death of Stalin.



The sad thing is that it will be made by Oliver Stone of the guy who made "Vice" and it will be portrayed that Trump and his campaign were neck deep in Russians but were just too dumb to see he was being used.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:26 PM (W+vEI)

80 12 reasons why it is a good thing that our federal government and the leaders of the democrat party conspired to stop a private citizen from becoming president.

1. Orange Man BAD!!!

Posted by: VOX Splainer at April 05, 2019 12:27 PM (pw+jk)

81 Who would ever believe this series of events?

It's just too far fetched.

Posted by: Jason Bourne at April 05, 2019 12:27 PM (cqNba)

82 79 >>The comedy film that ends up getting made about this whole episode is going to be hilarious and in line with The Death of Stalin.



The sad thing is that it will be made by Oliver Stone of the guy who made "Vice" and it will be portrayed that Trump and his campaign were neck deep in Russians but were just too dumb to see he was being used.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:26 PM (W+vEI)

========

Probably...

Le sigh...

Hey, they're anti-establishment because they're against the president! They can't be part of groupthink! It's unpossible!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at April 05, 2019 12:27 PM (XSSCs)

83 There had to have been hundreds of people involved in this operation: agents, analysts, translators, technicians, supervisors, clerical and support staff. Every single one of them, including the FISA judges and the people who worked in their chambers, knew exactly what was going on. Strzok didn't do the wiretapping all by himself.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 12:27 PM (YE5vl)

84 If those assholes in the FBI and CIA had just followed my detailed instructions everything would have gone just fine. Those people must hate gay black men.
Posted by: Barak Obama

The Kenya-Born Identity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 05, 2019 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)

85 83: And their names will be protected, as little people can't get as much legai aid on go fund me and might squeal.

Posted by: CN at April 05, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w)

86 "83 There had to have been hundreds of people involved in this operation: agents, analysts, translators, technicians, supervisors, clerical and support staff. Every single one of them, including the FISA judges and the people who worked in their chambers, knew exactly what was going on. Strzok didn't do the wiretapping all by himself.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 12:27 PM (YE5vl) "



Exactly.
Rendition every single one of them.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:29 PM (wA4OO)

87 >>There had to have been hundreds of people involved in this operation: agents, analysts, translators, technicians, supervisors, clerical and support staff. Every single one of them, including the FISA judges and the people who worked in their chambers, knew exactly what was going on. Strzok didn't do the wiretapping all by himself.



Which would appear to indicate it was not all that unusual by that point in the Obama presidency. Trump's not the one guy they did this to, he's the one guy they *shouldn't* have done this to.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (W+vEI)

88 Did the FBI set the entire thing up?

Of course they did.

Bongino has talked about this in detail for over a year.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (Y3hKx)

89 We are really spoiled with generally good audio.
The audio of that Russian woman on that Tucker show is unbearable.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (Ts3fP)

90 83 There had to have been hundreds of people involved in this operation: agents, analysts, translators, technicians, supervisors, clerical and support staff. Every single one of them, including the FISA judges and the people who worked in their chambers, knew exactly what was going on. Strzok didn't do the wiretapping all by himself.


That's the only thing that gives me pause. Usually, a conspiracy can't keep a secret if more than one person is involved, and even then, it's dicey.

Alternatively, it was an ad hoc, seat of the pants, sort of thing that simply grew out of control. That seems more in line with the level of competence in the Obama admin.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (wW03z)

91 Of course we have Hillary emails. What you think we do here all day, eat the shitty food?

Posted by: Starbucks Moscow at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (v0R5T)

92

These people are behaving exactly like the KGB.

So, it's time to do what the Soviets would do when the KGB would periodically get out of control: they would deploy agents of the GRU to fix all the little red wagons.

We have a Defense Intelligence Agency. Since our DoJ is in cahoots with the FBI and CIA and won't use legal means to restrain them, we should have the military spooks go make a couple thousand people vanish in the night.

If they're going to be lawless, let's be lawless, too. Since it's all just about power and hate now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (AzW6q)

93 There are a lot of people in this putsch who need to be served Polonium tea and fitted with cement galoshes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (UwneM)

94 Exactly.
Rendition every single one of them.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:29 PM (wA4OO)

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And lose the paperwork.

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (qC1Sy)

95 These coup plotters knew Barry had their backs because he ordered the op. They also figured, along with every DNC talking airhead, that Her Royal Thighness would win and bury the op deeper than Barry's birth and college records.

OK but this is the problem. Actually its several problems.

1) why do this in the first place unless you're some kind of paranoid Nixon lunatic?
2) Or maybe you have been just doing this every year and its part of a pattern

Are the GOPe really that craven and willing to surrender or are they all just compromised? Did McCain and Romney really want to give up that easily and never fight back or were they stupidly falling for these ops?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (39g3+)

96 The general decline in the world economy put all these climbers up for sale. Cheap.
As did the genreral abolition of the death penalty for treason.

Posted by: klaftern at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (RuIsu)

97 So he's not as stupid as some have tried to make him out to be, or at least the setup was so blatant that anyone could figure it out.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:20 PM (8erNz)

Parts of this operation are terrifyingly sinister, but others are so bungling they make Inspector Clouseau look like a super spy.

Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (XROPS)

98 57 I think the $10K he was supposed to be carrying when met at the airport was given to him by an Israeli


It was Charles Tawil, subject of an old wikileaks email about some subversive African activities.


Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (Brfdf)

99 This going from "collusion" to "confusion".

Every liberal and a few "conservatives" are now climbing over each other trying to escape the hole they dugged for themselves before it fills in on itself.

And boy, did they dig DEEP.

Posted by: Delaforce at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (CELt2)

100 -
--
It is a pity Peter Sellers isn't around to do this.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (hLRSq)


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He's probably too old, but I think Armand Assante would be good. I really liked him in Fatal Instinct.


Posted by: irright at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (pMGkg)

101
That's the only thing that gives me pause. Usually, a conspiracy can't keep a secret if more than one person is involved, and even then, it's dicey.


It helps when the press makes sure the secret will never see the light of day

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (TAmPV)

102 This entire thread is a violation of the Logan Act!

I'm giving you one chance to shut it down.

Don't make me come in there!

Posted by: Sally Yates at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (DuAZ5)

103 26 This whole thing smacks of people who've been in power so long and gotten so lazy and sloppy they were relying on staying in power so nobody looked closely at anything. I mean this is some seriously sloppy work. And I'm not gonna do the "if true" disclaimer because I'm certain it all is.

Sounds like Obama thought he was a better black ops guy than his black ops guys and planned the thing himself.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 12:16 PM (TAmPV)

Except Papadopoulos, who seems like a rank amateur.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (Ts3fP)

104 Did the FBI set the entire thing up?
.......

Busy aren't they, between destroying crime scenes and sexting each other.

Posted by: wth at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (v0R5T)

105 Rendition every single one of them.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian


You misspelled "Trial, Sentencing, Hang, Draw and Quarter, Disembowel, Burn at the Stake, Mix the Ashes with Pig Shit, Compress Until Just Short of Nuclear Fusion, Shoot Remains into the Center of the Fucking Sun"

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (Y3hKx)

106 It helps when the press makes sure the secret will never see the light of day
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic


Yeah, there is that.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:33 PM (wW03z)

107 100 Steve Martin and Jean Reno.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 12:34 PM (YE5vl)

108 This whole thing is like a Spy Novel not written by Mickey Spillane, but rather by Zippy the Pinhead.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:34 PM (Y3hKx)

109 Caesar - good to see your nic - but I don't agree.


The "op", as described, is quite limited. Long-time "assets" (basically sub-contractors on flexible purchase orders or retainers) are engaged to some fairly minor stuff. A couple people meet a couple of people, or are placed, or attempted to be placed, in the same events with certain people. Not exactly the Double Cross system of WWII.


I can easily see a handful of people involved. And the FISC wouldn't know about any of the mechanics, or any not needed to "make a case" that some American was working with foreign intel, I don't think.


Not a big deal. The point seems that the principals, most of whose names we know, and some of the minor players we are only hearing about (like the FBI attache in the UK Papadop talks about), all knew.


Oh - and obviously a key question is at what point (not whether) did, um, the president know - at least the outlines of things - about an op that is impossible to imagine proceeded beyond a certain point without his OK.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 05, 2019 12:34 PM (QDnY+)

110 You misspelled "Trial, Sentencing, Hang, Draw and Quarter, Disembowel, Burn at the Stake, Mix the Ashes with Pig Shit, Compress Until Just Short of Nuclear Fusion, Shoot Remains into the Center of the Fucking Sun"
Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (Y3hKx)

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Personally, I'm cool with rendering these people to some third world jail and forgetting where they were left.

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at April 05, 2019 12:35 PM (qC1Sy)

111 1) why do this in the first place unless you're some kind of paranoid Nixon lunatic?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (39g3+)

That's easy. Barry has always thought himself to be the smartest man in any room in which he is present. He thought it would be 'cool' to do something like this and get away with it. Part of the fundamental transformation he so desired, in this case from a Constitutional Republic to a banana republic

Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 12:35 PM (Y8PSl)

112 11 FBI.

I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest over the criminal enterprise their bureau has become and forfeit that huge govmint salary, retirement and expense account.

Abolish the FBI.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 05, 2019 12:12 PM (Z+IKu)

________________________________

There are a couple problems with that. First, when the FBI hires, they give precedence to those who are married with families. It's an unwritten policy. It goes all the way back Hoover. So, you have a majority of employees dependent on bringing home a regular paycheck. The second issue, is that there are about 40 FBI agents who has stated that they will gladly testify before Congress about these type abuses, BUT will only do so under subpoena because they fear reprisals from the entrenched "deep state" that still inhabits the management levels of the FBI.

Congress has refused these subpoenas for various reasons.

Posted by: Orson at April 05, 2019 12:35 PM (Btzdp)

113 Did the FBI set the entire thing up?
.......

Busy aren't they, between destroying crime scenes and sexting each other.
Posted by: wth at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (v0R5T)

Come on, give them a break. They broke the college admission scandal wide open and they are prosecuting those actresses with a vengeance.

Posted by: DR.WTF at April 05, 2019 12:35 PM (aS1PU)

114 Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file Rank and file

Posted by: Hannity's broken record at April 05, 2019 12:36 PM (v0R5T)

115 Oh - and obviously a key question is at what point (not whether) did, um, the president know - at least the outlines of things - about an op that is impossible to imagine proceeded beyond a certain point without his OK.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 05, 2019 12:34 PM


BO: Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:36 PM (wW03z)

116 "Dick Dearlove is such a quintessentially British name. It's all that boarding school, don't you know?"

True, but Cletus Deerlove is a quintessentially Wisconsin name.

Posted by: Ted K. at April 05, 2019 12:36 PM (FJYfm)

117 >> there are about 40 FBI agents who has stated that they will gladly testify before Congress about these type abuses, BUT will only do so under subpoena because they fear reprisals from the entrenched "deep state" that still inhabits the management levels of the FBI.


Patriots, All.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (kehhC)

118 Let's face it, no one is going to jail. No one is going to lose anything significant for doing this.

Posted by: WOPR - KTF always wins at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (WVeiZ)

119 O/T but related: Two interesting bits of information that have recently come to light:


-- Bruce Ohr's sister, Marth Ohr, is a producer at ABC News

-- James Comey's daughter, Maurene, worked as a lawyer at SDNY when they were handling the Weiner laptop w/Hillary email investigation

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (W+vEI)

120 so now we know! Trump is guilty!!

Over to you, Anderson!

Posted by: mallfly now identifying as Woof Blitzer at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (ZqRa6)

121 vWe have a Defense Intelligence Agency. ...
If they're going to be lawless, let's be lawless, too. ....

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

https://binged.it/2FRCnol

Might have to drag the route off 6/3/95.

Posted by: DaveA at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (FhXTo)

122 When you look at what these people tried to do to President Trump, it points out just how inept and foolish these people and agencies are.

They used massive amounts of resources involving at least a couple of hundred people and thought they'd get away with it.

Spy agencies are supposed to know that large complicated operations involving lots of people are bound to fail.

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (qC1Sy)

123 Of course we have Hillary emails. What you think we do here all day, eat the shitty food?
Posted by: Starbucks Moscow at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM

Troll Hot Air & The Bulwark?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (Ay+Od)

124 He's probably too old, but I think Armand Assante would be good. I really liked him in Fatal Instinct.




Posted by: irright at April 05, 2019 12:31 PM (pMGkg)


There's also the deceased thing he's been doing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (hLRSq)

125 You misspelled "Trial, Sentencing, Hang, Draw and Quarter, Disembowel, Burn at the Stake, Mix the Ashes with Pig Shit, Compress Until Just Short of Nuclear Fusion, Shoot Remains into the Center of the Fucking Sun"

.....

No.

30 years in the hole.

Let them out only for food and a shower, 1 hour a day like every citizen they locked up behind bars.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 05, 2019 12:38 PM (YA914)

126 Gaylord is up to his ears in this mess, Jarret the Ferret was probably his button man go between.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 12:38 PM (UwneM)

127 Papadopoulos, interviewed in the Greek press:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y385qnqm

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:38 PM (Ts3fP)

128
Are the GOPe really that craven and willing to surrender or are they
all just compromised? Did McCain and Romney really want to give up
that easily and never fight back or were they stupidly falling for these
ops?
=====

GOPe is starry-eyed about 'National Security!' as instructed by the spies.

Of course, the Senate's own IntelCmte's senior staffer was funneling supposedly secret stuff to his NYT honey. DWS senior staffers were doing something or another with computers and McCain and Clinton were running guns.

These are just the things we know about in the cheap seats.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 05, 2019 12:38 PM (MIKMs)

129 Posted by: Hannity's broken record at April 05, 2019 12:36 PM (v0R5T)

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Rank and file, my ass.

This another policy of the Soviets WRT to bringing the KGB to heel: when they'd kill the various rogue conspirators, they'd usually ice their subordinates and outside assets, as well.

It would put the remainder on good behavior for a few years.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (AzW6q)

130 126 Gaylord is up to his ears in this mess, Jarret the Ferret was probably his button man go between.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Lotta buffers in the Obama administration.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (wW03z)

131 They used massive amounts of resources involving at least a couple of hundred people and thought they'd get away with it.

I'll be utterly shocked if they do not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (39g3+)

132 Come on, give them a break. They broke the college admission scandal wide open and they are prosecuting those actresses with a vengeance.

Posted by: DR.WTF at April 05, 2019 12:35 PM (aS1PU)

Just wait...this college bball/shoe contract thing is gonna be big....BIG I tells ya!

Posted by: BignJames at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (ykq7q)

133 I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest
............

ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers

Posted by: Hannity's broken record at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

134 People need to start being angry, VERY angry over the involvement of the Brits and Aussies in our election. They happily conspired to destroy and, hopefully, imprison anyone associated w PDT before and after the election. The mere fact that Sambei was up to her neck in the Papadop entrapment and then part of the Mueller witch hunt can't be ignored.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (Brfdf)

135 in order to find the real story, the Justice Dep't needs to give immunity to Clapper, Brennan, etc so they can truthfully plead the fifth to everything anyone might ask them.

Posted by: mallfly now identifying as Woof Blitzer at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (ZqRa6)

136 -
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There's also the deceased thing he's been doing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (hLRSq)

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Heh. I meant Assante was too old. Or is he dead, too?

Posted by: irright at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (pMGkg)

137 Let's face it, no one is going to jail. No one is going to lose anything significant for doing this.
Posted by: WOPR - KTF always wins at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM

You are too young to be so cynical.

Steiner will come.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (Ay+Od)

138 Didn't Mifsud also give Papadopolus $10k in cash, and the Papadopolous was pulled aside at the airport for an extra search upon returning to the U.S. --- likely indicating he was set up to have this payment on him?

The only thing was that Pap left the $10k in London.

OK, have to go dig up that story to see if I am remembering it correctly. . .

Posted by: Lizzy


You have it exactly correct.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (Y3hKx)

139 I'll be utterly shocked if they do not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (39g3+)
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President Trump is still president. That aspect of their operation was failure.

The rest is still to be written.

Posted by: blake - used vacation salesman at April 05, 2019 12:41 PM (qC1Sy)

140

I wouldn't release the Mueller report until the MSM starts covering this story.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 12:41 PM (TAmPV)

141 You are too young to be so cynical.

Steiner will come.


And he's bringing Godot with him.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:41 PM (wW03z)

142 Papadizzle was arrested at the airport on a PC arrest (i.e., some feds were just hanging around and saw this crime happening and HAD to arrest the guy right there) which almost NEVER happens in the federal system ON THE SAME DAY THAT MUELLER WAS TOLD ABOUT THE STRZOK-PAGE TEXTS SAYING "THERE'S NO THERE, THERE".

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:42 PM (Y3hKx)

143 Halper was a lurking presence with a horrible aura -- I avoided him

==

horrible aura = BO?

Posted by: votermom tired from taking migraine med at April 05, 2019 12:42 PM (dm05u)

144 133 I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest
............

ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers
Posted by: Hannity's broken record at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

And boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants
*waves light stick*

Posted by: Insomniac at April 05, 2019 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

145 Build a Secret Police and they will, get this, act like a Secret Police.

The only solution is to drastically reduce the size and scope of the FBI and DOJ. This will not happen - the GOP will die on that hill before they see any reduction in what they perceive as Law and Order.

Well ... we ain't getting much Law - but we seem to be up to our collective asses in Order.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amon at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (mvp+a)

146 Troll Hot Air & The Bulwark?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 05, 2019 12:37 PM (Ay+Od)
........

Thank you for hottest tip.

Posted by: Starbucks Moscow at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (v0R5T)

147 Everyone has her email records.

Posted by: rd


Indeed.

The Chicoms had her home server set up to send them a courtesy copy of everything sent and received through that server in real time.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (Y3hKx)

148 Never Forget that John McCain was in on all of this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (Kpl3J)

149 in order to find the real story, the Justice Dep't needs to give immunity to Clapper, Brennan, etc so they can truthfully plead the fifth to everything anyone might ask them.

Posted by: mallfly now identifying as Woof Blitzer at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (ZqRa6)

You mis-spelled "waterboard".

Posted by: BignJames at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (ykq7q)

150 Is Halper the one who's the size of a Guernsey? I seem to recall one of these guys being grotesquely obese, and I think it was him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (AzW6q)

151 I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest over the criminal enterprise their bureau has become and forfeit that huge govmint salary, retirement and expense account.

Abolish the FBI.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 05, 2019 12:12 PM (Z+IKu)


(1) There weren't that many people involved in this in the first place, and (2) expecting someone to say "Wow, some people in the agency did criminal things, I, who am not involved and knew nothing about it, ought to resign" is rather unrealistic. Why the devil should those who aren't involved resign?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (hLRSq)

152 This is too funny...

First:


@brianstelter

We have 2 open producer jobs on the "Reliable Sources" team!

We're looking for a (star) booker

Then:

@JamesOKeefeIII

James O'Keefe Retweeted Brian Stelter

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2019 12:44 PM (cF8AT)

153 140 I wouldn't release the Mueller report until the MSM starts covering this story.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 12:41 PM (TAmPV)

I wouldn't release the Mueller report until Brexit occurs.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:44 PM (Ts3fP)

154 OK but this is the problem. Actually its several problems.

1) why do this in the first place unless you're some kind of paranoid Nixon lunatic?
2) Or maybe you have been just doing this every year and its part of a pattern

Are the GOPe really that craven and willing to surrender or are they all just compromised? Did McCain and Romney really want to give up that easily and never fight back or were they stupidly falling for these ops?



This may all go back to the fact that they were worried Hillary's emails would get out. They probably implicate all kinds of people.

Remember no one was ever supposed to know they existed. Their existence came from the Benghazi investigation.

I'm guessing she was collecting money all over the globe and then distributing some of it.


I'm also guessing all this setting up and spying on Trump is just how the JEF and the Clintons did everything, all the time.

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 12:44 PM (nRWPy)

155 125: Ain't nobody been indicted yet, sonny.

Posted by: Snoregard of the DOJ at April 05, 2019 12:44 PM (U7k5w)

156 138 Didn't Mifsud also give Papadopolus $10k in cash, and the Papadopolous was pulled aside at the airport for an extra search upon returning to the U.S. --- likely indicating he was set up to have this payment on him?

The only thing was that Pap left the $10k in London.

OK, have to go dig up that story to see if I am remembering it correctly. . .

Posted by: Lizzy


You have it exactly correct.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (Y3hKx)

No, it was Charles Tawil who gave Papadop the cash. He has a dirty past, too, so all in the same group.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM (Brfdf)

157 I don't believe that 10k clams would get any of these clowns to wake up early in the morning.

Posted by: klaftern at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM (RuIsu)

158
30 years in the hole.

Let them out only for food and a shower, 1 hour a day like every citizen they locked up behind bars.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger

With nothing to eat but Humble Pie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM (aKsyK)

159 Molotov Cocktease. We meet again.

Posted by: Insomniac


That's funny right there.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:46 PM (Y3hKx)

160 Remember a couple of weeks ago, when Lindsey Graham stuck up for PDT? Can't we still give that some weight?

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:46 PM (Ts3fP)

161 There is no need for the FBI as currently constituted. A national police force is not necessary. Break it up.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 05, 2019 12:46 PM (wGbBR)

162 133 I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest
............

ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers ham and eggers
Posted by: Hannity's broken record at April 05, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

And boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants and boots and pants
*waves light stick*
Posted by: Insomniac at April 05, 2019 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

-----

I think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can i think i can

Posted by: The Little Engine that Thinks It Can at April 05, 2019 12:47 PM (flINI)

163 157 I don't believe that 10k clams would get any of these clowns to wake up early in the morning.
Posted by: klaftern at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM (RuIsu)

It would tempt the little Greek guy, I think.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:47 PM (Ts3fP)

164 Didn't Mifsud also give Papadopolus $10k in cash, and the Papadopolous was pulled aside at the airport for an extra search upon returning to the U.S. --- likely indicating he was set up to have this payment on him?

The only thing was that Pap left the $10k in London.

OK, have to go dig up that story to see if I am remembering it correctly. . .

Posted by: Lizzy


You have it exactly correct.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:40 PM (Y3hKx)

No, it was Charles Tawil who gave Papadop the cash. He has a dirty past, too, so all in the same group.
Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM (Brfdf)

Different spy, same set up.
I am pretty impressed that Papadoulous- a young guy with no espionage background, figured this out, or at least was suspicious enough that he took steps to protect himself.

Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:47 PM (XROPS)

165 -
--
30 years in the hole.



Let them out only for food and a shower, 1 hour a day like every citizen they locked up behind bars.



Posted by: Bitter Clinger



With nothing to eat but Humble Pie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM

----------------------------

While listening to an endless loop of Hillary's speeches.

Posted by: irright at April 05, 2019 12:47 PM (pMGkg)

166

My memory served.

Halper is indeed the big ol' Channel Islands milker I remember him to be:

http://tinyurl.com/y2e7wbwf

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 12:47 PM (AzW6q)

167 Rule of law of anarchy and vigilantism.

Choose one.


Quickly.

Posted by: Ha at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (MAstk)

168 Law enforcement set up sting operations all of the time. The prisons are flush with convicts who took the bait.

Posted by: Speller


There is a big difference between a sting operation to catch an actual criminal, and a "push-pull" information op designed to make a person look like they are a spy/traitor.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (Y3hKx)

169 Why the devil should those who aren't involved resign?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:43 PM (hLRSq)

Then why do we pretend they're "public servants" ? By your very statement - they're nothing more than mercenaries. Treat them as such.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (mvp+a)

170 @mviser 5 seconds ago

Asked if he thinks more women will come forward to reveal uncomfortable interactions with him, Joe Biden says: "I wouldn't be surprised."



Dude....

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (cF8AT)

171 what wonderful mind control the Obama administration attempted to use. Collusion so intense that it flies over the MSM heads. bypass 3rd world, hello 4th.

Posted by: thrint amazed at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (1XtI9)

172 McCain, Romney, the Turtle, Rubio...they are all in for graft and open borders. They were delighted with the prospect of removing Trump, and would have supported anything. They "fell for" nothing, any more than the likes of Tapper believe this. It's all about their livelihoods

Posted by: Snoregard of the Heroic DOJ at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (U7k5w)

173 161 There is no need for the FBI as currently constituted. A national police force is not necessary. Break it up.


No, it has its uses. The solution is to identify those who abused their positions, and make very compelling examples of them.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (wW03z)

174 157 I don't believe that 10k clams would get any of these clowns to wake up early in the morning.
Posted by: klaftern at April 05, 2019 12:45 PM (RuIsu)

Catching Papadop w an undeclared $10K was the goal of the FBI.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:49 PM (Brfdf)

175 173. I used to agree. But no longer. It should not be one national organization. It is too powerful that way.
Make it regional. Or fracture the power, like the US Attys and the AG a bit.

This set up is horrendous.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 05, 2019 12:49 PM (wGbBR)

176 171: Fifth, total basket case territory politics

Posted by: CN at April 05, 2019 12:49 PM (U7k5w)

177 @brianstelter
We have 2 open producer jobs on the "Reliable Sources" team
We're looking for a star booker.
Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2019 12:44 PM

I'll be available November 2020, if not sooner.

Posted by: Cory "Fabulously Heterosexual" Booker at April 05, 2019 12:49 PM (Ay+Od)

178 Steiner will come.

And he's bringing Godot with him.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:41 PM (wW03z)
...........

Gal Gadot? mmm

Posted by: wth at April 05, 2019 12:50 PM (v0R5T)

179 rhomboid, you're right about the White House being at least aware. I actually buy Samantha Powers's story that someone used her credentials to do the unmaskings. There were operatives in the WH who used the results without her knowledge (maybe with her tacit approval, though that could never be proved). Susan Rice wrote the CYA memo on the way out. People knew.

We'll just agree to disagree on how widespread this was. I think there were people involved who really believed that Trump was a Russian stooge, and if they had to cut a few corners to prove it, they would be justified in the end. I think others believed what they were told because they trusted the chain of command. I think others were on the team just for the thrill of taking down a big name. There were some who knew it was bs, but wanted to be on the Hillary team when it won. Then some were just outright partisan Democrats.

There's a great post out there by a guy named Yaacov Apelbaum that does very deep analysis of the dossier. His ultimate implication is that Hakluyt keeps a database on people and companies for mercenary purposes, and that it was the ur-source for the stories written up by Nellie Ohr and a couple of others, dressed up by Christopher Steele. And Hakluyt continues building their database to this day.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 12:50 PM (YE5vl)

180 149 in order to find the real story, the Justice Dep't needs to give immunity to Clapper, Brennan, etc so they can truthfully plead the fifth to everything anyone might ask them.

Look, I'd give almost anyone immunity if it'd put Obama in prison, but that stops a level or two below the Cabinet and direct reports. Clapper, Brennan, Lynch, Holder do not qualify. Comey might.

Posted by: JEM at April 05, 2019 12:50 PM (8erNz)

181 @128

Ultimately it's what I have said for a long time.


The GOP is an illegitimate party as properly understood.


They are a corparitist business interest party, period, end of story.

Anything else they claim to be, fiscally conservative, socially conservative, etc. has simply been grafted on to
gain political power to enact the policies of their real base, Big Business, Globalist, MIC, COC, et al.


They cannot be reformed, they cannot be taken over from the inside, and try as he might, Trump cannot turn them into a legitimate political party.


They must be replaced as they replaced the Whigs.


The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 05, 2019 12:50 PM (qSnjW)

182 The solution is to identify those who abused their positions, and make very compelling, very public and very painful examples of them.

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (wW03z)

Fixed, because that's what I want.

Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 12:51 PM (Y8PSl)

183 No, it has its uses. The solution is to identify those who abused their positions, and make very compelling examples of them.

Posted by: pep

Unless it involves every agent and employee having to pass beneath the remains of those individuals every day they go to work, it won't be sufficient.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 05, 2019 12:51 PM (AM1GF)

184 Govt lawyers tell me that the mere fact that the SAME LAWYERS and FBI SES were on the same investigations is a BIG HEADS UP.

Even in smaller govt departments, there is NO WAY the same people would be on these same investigations, ie Hillary's emails and spying on Trump.


It would be like having a college where your top football player is also your top basketball player and your top lacrosse player.


It was a corrupt clique.


And Hannity is just putting away the "law and order" whining. Don't think it's a real thing, it's just a way to say "shut up" by declaring that up front.

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 12:51 PM (nRWPy)

185 "Have a plan to kill everyone you meet."

Seems like pretty good advice for Iraq and Washington DC.

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 12:52 PM (9dzr3)

186 Wasn't the $10k supposedly payment for some paper he was going to write or had written? Papadopolous said it was crazy; and then to get cash?

Lots of red flags, but still it was very smart of him to be alert enough to avoid the initial trap.

Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:52 PM (XROPS)

187 For those defending the FBI, recall it has been corrupt since its founding. Hoover blackmailed anyone and everyone to maintain his position of power.

There was a brief time post 9/11 that it functioned decently, thats it. It has never, EVER, been the bastion of elite law enforcement that some wish it was.

Break. It. Up.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (wGbBR)

188 Then why do we pretend they're "public servants" ? By your very statement - they're nothing more than mercenaries. Treat them as such.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 12:48 PM (mvp+a)


Oh for God's sake, quit acting like such a drama queen. What code demands that those who did nothing wrong resign? If an army officer proves a traitor does that mean other army officers who are not traitors should resign?

Yes, I want the guilty found, removed, and punished. I am not casting my nets any further as I have nothing to prove.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

189 Hoo boy, Moose and squirrel were geniuses compared to this circus.

Posted by: Boris Badanov at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (rFmwm)

190 164 Different spy, same set up.
I am pretty impressed that Papadoulous- a young guy with no espionage background, figured this out, or at least was suspicious enough that he took steps to protect himself.
Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:47 PM (XROPS)

Papadop had already gone thru the FBI interviews, which probably caused him to be more careful, than if they had tried the dirty cash trick before the election (instead of summer of 2017). I agree he was a quick study.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (Brfdf)

191 Unless it involves every agent and employee having to pass beneath the remains of those individuals every day they go to work, it won't be sufficient.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 05, 2019 12:51 PM (AM1GF)

Head on spikes used to be fashionable.

Posted by: Someguy at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (mX8Vr)

192 141 Soon.... (post glazed looking pic of Horowitz, here)

Posted by: CN at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (U7k5w)

193 pass beneath the remains of those individuals every day they go to work
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 05, 2019 12:51 PM

Trust me, going under Hillary isn't what it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: Huma at April 05, 2019 12:54 PM (Ay+Od)

194 This may all go back to the fact that they were worried Hillary's emails
would get out. They probably implicate all kinds of people.

Their EXISTENCE is a crime irregardless of their content or it's classification.

Posted by: DaveA at April 05, 2019 12:54 PM (FhXTo)

195 "Which would appear to indicate it was not all that unusual by that point in the Obama presidency. Trump's not the one guy they did this to, h
e's the one guy they *shouldn't* have done this to.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 12:30 PM (W+vEI) "



Boom. This.

The corruption probably goes back a long, long way.

Slippery slopes usually get steeper and steeper until stuff like this becomes routine, so I'm thinking rooted in the 20th century, and accelerated greatly by the so-called Patriot Act.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:54 PM (wA4OO)

196 It is a pity Peter Sellers isn't around to do this.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:23 PM (hLRSq)



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Or Kubrick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at April 05, 2019 12:24 PM (XSSCs)

The Coen boys might do it justice.



Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at April 05, 2019 12:54 PM (7IKAb)

197 Sounds like the usual FBI informers encouraging someone to blow something up so they can then arrest them for planning to blow something up.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 05, 2019 12:55 PM (37IEG)

198 196: Not unless the donks are the heroes.

Posted by: CN at April 05, 2019 12:55 PM (U7k5w)

199 This was Obama wanting to be master grand spy ( it is impossible he didnt know); but again why it was important for Hillary to get Trump in debate #2 to say he'd accept the results.


This OP was to hold over his head to divulge if he declined. This would have had the benefit of making appear as another GOPe once he endorsed her and to demoralize his supporters after the fact


Him winning fuk'd everything up. Thankfully.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 05, 2019 12:55 PM (h7V7+)

200 186 Wasn't the $10k supposedly payment for some paper he was going to write or had written? Papadopolous said it was crazy; and then to get cash?

Lots of red flags, but still it was very smart of him to be alert enough to avoid the initial trap.
Posted by: LASue at April 05, 2019 12:52 PM (XROPS)

No, Halper had paid him 3K for the paper before the election to get close. Then, Tawil gave him the $10K in the summer of 2017 supposedly in anticipation of starting an oil and gas business together.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 12:55 PM (Brfdf)

201 Unless it involves every agent and employee having to pass beneath the remains of those individuals every day they go to work, it won't be sufficient.
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Well, a sign with a running clock outside the Justice Department that says: Its been 6 days 4 hours and 3 minutes since a traitor has been drawn and quartered might be sufficient.

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 12:56 PM (TaX85)

202

The corruption runs very deep. Even those who aren't actively conspiring are completely tolerant of it. Collective punishment is the only corrective measure.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 12:56 PM (AzW6q)

203
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Congratulations to Brian Hagedorn on his big surprise win over a well funded Liberal Democrat in the Great State of Wisconsin for a very important Supreme Court seat. Republicans are producing big for Wisconsin!

Posted by: Ha at April 05, 2019 12:56 PM (MAstk)

204 Why am I now a registered sex offender, and Creepy Joe isn't?

Posted by: A. "Carlos Danger" Weiner at April 05, 2019 12:56 PM (Ay+Od)

205 Good God. I don't know if people even grasp how serious this is.

American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, along with the Executive Branch of our government staged and funded a political operation to smear a presidential candidate. In the process, they used U.S. government resources, and not only perpetrated criminal or possibly treasonous acts, but used foreign governments as part of the plot in order to get around restrictions on spying on U.S. persons.

Most of these actors also demonstrably lied to Congress and investigators, which is the basic crime most people swept up by Mueller were jailed on.

But yeah, Barr is covering up the Mueller Report or something.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 05, 2019 12:57 PM (VpIIl)

206 This Tucker Carlson segment

I liked the game show segment that came afterwards. Lighthearted fun.

Posted by: t-bird at April 05, 2019 12:57 PM (elfAG)

207 Asked if he thinks more women will come forward to reveal uncomfortable interactions with him, Joe Biden says: "I wouldn't be surprised."

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Neither would I, Joe. Neither would I.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 05, 2019 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)

208 204 Why am I now a registered sex offender, and Creepy Joe isn't?
Posted by: A. "Carlos Danger" Weiner at April 05, 2019 12:56 PM (Ay+Od)

Your pics were the Full Monty.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 12:58 PM (Ts3fP)

209 "105 Rendition every single one of them.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian


You misspelled "Trial, Sentencing, Hang, Draw and Quarter, Disembowel, Burn at the Stake, Mix the Ashes with Pig Shit, Compress Until Just Short of Nuclear Fusion, Shoot Remains into the Center of the Fucking Sun"

Posted by: Sharkman at April 05, 2019 12:32 PM (Y3hKx) "




Well, I was imprecise:
renditioned for interrogation.

after they have thoroughly spilled every detail, implement your plan.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, triumphalist Trumpian at April 05, 2019 12:58 PM (wA4OO)

210 For those defending the FBI, recall it has been corrupt since its founding. Hoover blackmailed anyone and everyone to maintain his position of power.

There was a brief time post 9/11 that it functioned decently, thats it. It has never, EVER, been the bastion of elite law enforcement that some wish it was.

Break. It. Up.
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Secret Police - with better Public Relations Team.

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 12:59 PM (TaX85)

211 What.. there's a shortage of walls and blindfolds in this country?

Posted by: Anchovy at April 05, 2019 12:59 PM (B3kya)

212 To maintain historical accuracy, don't forget the striking off of the privy parts and casting them into the fire before their eyes between the hanging and the drawing.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 05, 2019 12:59 PM (Ay+Od)

213 204
Why am I now a registered sex offender, and Creepy Joe isn't?

Posted by: A. "Carlos Danger" Weiner at April 05, 2019 12:56 PM (Ay+Od)
Duh, because Joe does his creepy shit right in front of the cameras so we can see it first hand. You hid yours in text messages!It's the coverup we're worried about not the crime!If you'd just flashed your dick around like Clinton you could have been President, but no, you had to be all secret Carlos Danger shit about it.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 05, 2019 12:59 PM (37IEG)

214 So it's even fucking worse then we thought.

Posted by: Max Power at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (Hucnr)

215 Sounds like another round of HR and ethics seminars are in order.

Posted by: MAGA at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (XupTG)

216 Exactly. The media likes to pretend that if this WASN'T actual "collusion" between Trump campaign aides and Russian "agents", that is was all just a misunderstanding based on circumstantial evidence.

Except NONE of this happened by chance - it was all a set up by the Deep State in the FBI / DOJ / CIA.

Posted by: deadrody at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (svv54)

217 This was Obama wanting to be master grand spy ( it is impossible he
didnt know); but again why it was important for Hillary to get Trump in
debate #2 to say he'd accept the results.

=====

Not only BHO, but Hillary as well. Remember Hillary grew up in Chicago environs, like Michelle and ValJarJar.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (MIKMs)

218 This is the buzz in Washington last night and today. Lot's of "did you see that on Fox" phone calls being made.

Usually people have a way of finding out when these stories are hitting- checking sources or whatever, which people then leak. None of that here. Wow, just wow.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (VpIIl)

219 Tonight on The Rachel Maddow Show: The Secret Protocols of the Mueller Report!

What is Attorney General William Barr hiding? Why won't he release the Mueller Report?

The Rachel Maddow Show can now report exclusively the existence of Secret Protocols to the Mueller Report containing shocking revelations of the US Government's biggest secrets!

Among the bombshells contained in the Secret Protocols:

- George Washington was secretly the lover of Catherine the Great of Russia and agreed to foment revolution in the British Colonies in order to further the Russian agenda of dividing the British Empire and weakening the EU

- the purchase of Alaska by the United States from Russia was in fact a Trojan horse, with the Russians installing and leaving behind secret Internet access points from which they could infiltrate the U.S. Internet and steal Hillary Clinton's emails

- the administration of FDR was riddled with Russian communist spies and sympathizers who had a substantial effect of US policy [N.B. to producer: let's cut this segment, I don't find this believable at all - RM]

Posted by: The Rachel Maddow Show at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (DuAZ5)

220 It's Obama all the way down.

Posted by: Archer at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (gmo/4)

221 214 So it's even fucking worse then we thought.
Posted by: Max Power at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (Hucnr)

Isn't it always?

Posted by: Someguy at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (mX8Vr)

222 If only the FBI was as rigorous in going after terrorists and school shootings. If only.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (6/uwW)

223 "I think this is going to be very awkward for Mueller" does not rise to the level of evidence.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (Ts3fP)

224 Good God. I don't know if people even grasp how serious this is.
============
Say what you want about "Q" , but every single person you see wear a Q tee shirt, or holding a Q sign at a rally -- knows about this coup. I don't know how many regular folks who didn't watch Hannity or didn't watch news really were awakened. Theres a lot of twitter/facebook types who got "Q'd."

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (WjZvD)

225 205 Good God. I don't know if people even grasp how serious this is.

American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, along with the Executive Branch of our government staged and funded a political operation to smear a presidential candidate. In the process, they used U.S. government resources, and not only perpetrated criminal or possibly treasonous acts, but used foreign governments as part of the plot in order to get around restrictions on spying on U.S. persons.

Most of these actors also demonstrably lied to Congress and investigators, which is the basic crime most people swept up by Mueller were jailed on.

But yeah, Barr is covering up the Mueller Report or something.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 05, 2019 12:57 PM (VpIIl)

But hey, don't forget to send your DNA to Google (23 & Me), who wants to send it all to the FBI!!!

Posted by: Hikaru at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (UnA8+)

226

So it's even fucking worse then we thought.
Posted by: Max Power at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (Hucnr)

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Not for me. This is all sadly predictable.

The only reason this is coming as a surprise to people is that Americans have grown used to comparatively responsible government over the centuries. That's the exception, not the rule, and now our government is just as filthy and corrupt as the rest.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (AzW6q)

227 You know how bad our intelligence agencies are?

This has been going on for two years and not one joke from the FSB has been reported.

"Boris! Do you know how many Americans needed to topple government?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (UwneM)

228 191 Unless it involves every agent and employee having to pass beneath the remains of those individuals every day they go to work, it won't be sufficient.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 05, 2019 12:51 PM (AM1GF)

Head on spikes used to be fashionable.
Posted by: Someguy at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (mX8Vr)

Old ways are best ways.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 05, 2019 01:03 PM (NWiLs)

229 If only the FBI was as rigorous in going after terrorists and school shootings. If only.
Posted by: Regular joe at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM

This.

Posted by: Las Vegas at April 05, 2019 01:03 PM (Ay+Od)

230 When your "security" forces and agencies are used against law abiding citizens instead of real criminals/threats, you might be 3rd world country.

Abolish the FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 05, 2019 01:03 PM (Z+IKu)

231 >>Asked if he thinks more women will come forward to reveal uncomfortable interactions with him, Joe Biden says: "I wouldn't be surprised."



What about the children, Joe?!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 01:03 PM (W+vEI)

232 To think that entrapping the Trump campaign members was a good idea, they must have been very confident she would win. Their plan would have been to destroy Trump completely after the election. With the full power of a corrupt FBI, NSA, and DOJ there would have been no way to defend against the false charges. It would have been devastating.

Posted by: Uncle Si at April 05, 2019 01:03 PM (F7vOh)

233 What we need is a great TV show with Jim Comey as the hard bitten inspector Lewis Erskine, restoring our faith in the Merican Justice system.

The current crop of dickheads in Hollywood would be perfect for doing this show.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 05, 2019 01:04 PM (37IEG)

234 Biden Invites Kids Onto Stage, 'He Gave Me Permission To Touch Him, I Like Kids More Than People'

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Ahhh. The old his eyes said yes, yes, YES! defense.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 05, 2019 01:04 PM (+y/Ru)

235 People around the world should be disappearing and dropping dead out of the blue, and Barky, Brennan, Clapper, Shrillary, Lynch, Comey, Mueller, and every other lowlife traitor in Barky's junta should be no-knock raided at 3 am by itchy-fingered SWAT teams and perp-walked into some prison building never to be heard from again.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:04 PM (N3Mch)

236 224: Q? You mean the "trust Jeff Sessions" LARPer?
He could even be Comey, who happens to have a lot of time on his hands these days, and loves to fuck around with the truth.

Posted by: CN at April 05, 2019 01:04 PM (U7k5w)

237 To paraphrase Eek the Cat: It never hurts to Halp!

Posted by: Nonapod at April 05, 2019 01:05 PM (CLP9I)

238 Joey Bidet touching kids?

So now he is stealing from Michael Jackson?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:05 PM (UwneM)

239 "Did the FBI Set Up the Alleged "Russian Contacts" of Flynn and Papadopolous and Later Misrepresent Them to a Court as Having Been Arranged by Their Targets Rather Than Themselves?"

Rhetorical question? Sarcasm? Duh?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at April 05, 2019 01:05 PM (3sjI6)

240 when the FBI is nothing but hyperpolitical hacks who think the taxpayers are paying them to promote democrat politics, it is little wonder 9/11 happened on their watch.

Posted by: x at April 05, 2019 01:06 PM (nFwvY)

241 You know how bad our intelligence agencies are?

This has been going on for two years and not one joke from the FSB has been reported.

"Boris! Do you know how many Americans needed to topple government?"
Posted by: Anna Puma

Needed? No idea. But is no shortage of volunteers, Natasha.

Posted by: Boris Badanov at April 05, 2019 01:06 PM (rFmwm)

242 When Trump won, the utter panic of being found out what they had done dawned on them. Then it was full speed ahead to set him up for impeachment during the 2 months of transition before he was sworn in. No doubt there was a secret pardon for all there crimes on the last day O was in office.

Posted by: Uncle Si at April 05, 2019 01:06 PM (F7vOh)

243 Hoo boy, Moose and squirrel were geniuses compared to this circus.

Posted by: Boris Badanov at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (rFmwm)
........

wrong hat.

Posted by: wth at April 05, 2019 01:06 PM (v0R5T)

244 Their plan would have been to destroy Trump completely after the election.

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This.

All of the last couple years' nonsense is a rogue, unaccountable intelligence covering up a sloppily-executed operation on behalf of the Party. There was a completely unexpected change in the terrain they didn't think to prepare for, and the focus of the operation had to shift wildly in mid-flight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 01:06 PM (AzW6q)

245 Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

Then quit acting like a pollyanna. The FBI is made up of bad actors, and those who cover for them.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 01:07 PM (mvp+a)

246 Know one really knows if the DNC emails were hacked by the Russians or were released by an insider. The DNC refused to allow the FBI to inspect their servers, and had a company named CrowdStrike inspect the servers. The FBI sure is gullible if they take the word of outside companies, CrowdStrike and Fusion GPS, to start counter-intel against US citizens who are involved in a presidential election. Also, one of these US citizens they investigated and had a FISA warrant for a whole year, Cater Page, had helped the FBI against Russian spy in the not so distant past.

Posted by: Worc1 at April 05, 2019 01:07 PM (P7ARN)

247 Same people who can't find deranged pre mass-murdering dudes on social media.

Same people who interview them and "make a note" so that when they go postal later they can say "oh yeah, we knew about that guy!"



Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM (37IEG)

248 Combine" Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" with "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".

Posted by: Boris Badanov at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM (rFmwm)

249 I'm in Apple Store.

It's such a cult.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM (yBWAd)

250

Rachel Maddow and MoveOn sponsored a rally in Times Square.

Here's some of the dumb things they were singing.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=416681

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM (aKsyK)

251 Marcus T., good points.


It's understandable that people get caught up in the details, and the tale, as it is revealed.


But the enormity (word properly used, just for a fun change) of all this is breath-taking.


But back to the details - not sure why so many are saying this involve huge numbers of people and resources. No. Recall how Mid-Year Exam (the Clinton/State Espionage Act cover-up, er, "investigation") was handled? It was a "headquarters special" at the FBI, involving just the "small group" - regular field office activity was mostly avoided. And recall when Brennan took info from the then-head of the British NSA-equivalent - privately, directly - due to the nature of the supposed info.


Intel/investigative operations, even fake ones, can be done on a close-hold basis, and not involve hundreds. And even for the technical aspects - surveillance of, say, Carter Page after the bogus FISA warrant was obtained - the people conducting the surveillance do not get into the weeds of the merits of the operation, not their lane, expertise, or authority.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (QDnY+)

252 Funny all this shit leaking out after the Mueller Report DUD BOMB !!! Whoda Thunk It, President Trump is your Pilot

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (BqBId)

253 Svetlana Lokhova.Sounds hot.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (BXMxN)

254 It's Obama all the way down.

Posted by: Archer at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (gmo/4)
.........

He touched it! AAAAAIEEE! We're doomed!

Posted by: the FBI at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

255
It's not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.

- David Plouffe ex-Bronco Bama fellator

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivism at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (HaL55)

256 1/2 Mulatto Ops

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (BqBId)

257 Then quit acting like a pollyanna. The FBI is made up of bad actors, and those who cover for them.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 01:07 PM (mvp+a)

The FBI is not traditionally made up of traitors. Not just a few here and there but treasonous America-haters for top to bottom, working to make sure that America is sunk and pieced out to the world.

This is something entirely new. It came to full force with the illegitimate occupooping of the White House by the Indonesian.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N3Mch)

258 When Trump won, the utter panic of being found out what they had done dawned on them. Then it was full speed ahead to set him up for impeachment during the 2 months of transition before he was sworn in. No doubt there was a secret pardon for all there crimes on the last day O was in office.
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Foolproof crime?

Outgoing president, colludes with his own party's candidate, and foreign governments to sabotage election and if unsuccessful impeach winner. Outgoing Prexy pardons everyone involved in these high crimes on last day in office.

What's to stop that recurring nightmare?

I mean besides another revolution.

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:10 PM (y+hLc)

259 Starbucks barista, "One vente half soy mulatto!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:11 PM (UwneM)

260 mmm Natasha.

Posted by: wth at April 05, 2019 01:11 PM (v0R5T)

261 250 Rachel Maddow and MoveOn sponsored a rally in Times Square.

Here's some of the dumb things they were singing.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=416681
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM (aKsyK)

The Internationale?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 05, 2019 01:11 PM (YqDXo)

262 Obama probably knew, but I think it was probably Jarrett. Obama isn't bright enough to think of much.

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 01:11 PM (nRWPy)

263 246 Know one really knows if the DNC emails were hacked by the Russians or were released by an insider. The DNC refused to allow the FBI to inspect their servers, and had a company named CrowdStrike inspect the servers. The FBI sure is gullible if they take the word of outside companies, CrowdStrike and Fusion GPS, to start counter-intel against US citizens who are involved in a presidential election. Also, one of these US citizens they investigated and had a FISA warrant for a whole year, Cater Page, had helped the FBI against Russian spy in the not so distant past.
Posted by: Worc1 at April 05, 2019 01:07 PM (P7ARN)

DOJ had one of their own people (Nellie Ohr) working for Fusion GPS, so yeah...

Posted by: Hikaru at April 05, 2019 01:11 PM (UnA8+)

264 Anybody else notice that there is a new FBI series on tv? I don't watch that shit but I assume it is hagiographic Hollywood bullshit to present these deep state assholes in a good light.

Posted by: Shitavious Cook at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (m/Gc2)

265 Combine" Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" with "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".

Posted by: Boris Badanov at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM (rFmwm)

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy only had one traitor and a bunch of retards. We've got multiple agencies with only one retard and a bunch of traitors - full of traitors.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (N3Mch)

266 Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (WjZvD)
******
Qresearch Boad on 8Chan is a sewer BUT there are people who can dig stuff like crazy & Q Posts there

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (BqBId)

267
Combine" Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" with "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".
Posted by: Boris Badanov

It's a Mad Mad Soldier Spy, Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (aKsyK)

268 218 This is the buzz in Washington last night and today. Lot's of "did you see that on Fox" phone calls being made.

Usually people have a way of finding out when these stories are hitting- checking sources or whatever, which people then leak. None of that here. Wow, just wow.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 05, 2019 01:01 PM (VpIIl)

You have an interesting perspective. It amazes me that lil' ol me, sitting out here in the wilds of Texas, have a better idea of what's been going on than all of the Smart People in Washington do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (Kpl3J)

269 Manchin strongly considering running for governor in 2020.

Posted by: Ha at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (MAstk)

270
The FBI is not traditionally made up of traitors. Not just a few here and there but treasonous America-haters for top to bottom, working to make sure that America is sunk and pieced out to the world.

This is something entirely new. It came to full force with the illegitimate occupooping of the White House by the Indonesian.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N3Mch)

Its the CIA and diplomatic services that are typically made up of traitors.

Posted by: Someguy at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (mX8Vr)

271 Trump ally Japan launched a sneak attack today on an asteroid.

No exact word on casualties at this time, but our intelligence experts believe that thousands of asterioidians probably died.

So far President Trump has failed to condemn the Japanese action.

Posted by: This is CNN at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (37IEG)

272 Svetlana Lokhova.Sounds hot.
Posted by: steevy


Meh, is no bowl of borscht. Natasha has hold of me, and a Tokorov aimed at head.

Posted by: Boris Badanov at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (rFmwm)

273 255 It's not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. His kind must not rise again.

- David Plouffe ex-Bronco Bama fellator
Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivism at April 05, 2019 01:09 PM (HaL55)

And, that was in June before the election, iirc. They knew the plot was ongoing. I think that is what helped her keep her cool during the debate. HRC was contemplating the utter destruction she was going to bring to DJT after November 2016.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (Brfdf)

274 Mad Mad Soldier Spy, Charlie Brown.

Hillary's real server is buried under the W

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (UwneM)

275 Combine" Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" with "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".
Posted by: Boris Badanov

It's a Mad Mad Soldier Spy, Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (aKsyK)

Don't forget - the Theme Song to the caper is Yakkety Sax.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (Kpl3J)

276 Intel/investigative operations, even fake ones, can be done on a close-hold basis, and not involve hundreds. And even for the technical aspects - surveillance of, say, Carter Page after the bogus FISA warrant was obtained - the people conducting the surveillance do not get into the weeds of the merits of the operation, not their lane, expertise, or authority.
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especially intel/counterintel - closely held and compartmentalized so that its really only a few people who see the whole picture.

The model works well in general but the fatal flaw is: what happens when you get sociopath(s) at the top of the hierarchy?

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (xQ5jl)

277 Foolproof crime?

Outgoing president, colludes with his own party's candidate, and foreign governments to sabotage election and if unsuccessful impeach winner. Outgoing Prexy pardons everyone involved in these high crimes on last day in office.

What's to stop that recurring nightmare?

I mean besides another revolution.
Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:10 PM (y+hLc)

The pardon power is not so precious that we cannot disregard it.

Posted by: Someguy at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (mX8Vr)

278 274 Mad Mad Soldier Spy, Charlie Brown.

Hillary's real server is buried under the W
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (UwneM)

The little red haired girl is a honeypot trap.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (NWiLs)

279 On the warpath.

Sen. Warren, 2018 truther: "Massive voter suppression prevented Stacy Abrams from becoming the rightful governor of Georgia."

"They know that a durable majority of Americans believe in the promise of America and they know that if all the votes are counted, we'll win every time."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (+y/Ru)

280 25


Hamburger Halper...





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 05, 2019 12:15 PM (zBaqJ)

Is that a weigh joke cause well.... hes ginormous.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'does anyone use a speech to text program to write?' at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (0rsWa)

281 274 Mad Mad Soldier Spy, Charlie Brown.

Hillary's real server is buried under the W
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (UwneM)

In the HOLLYWOOD sign?

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (Ts3fP)

282 This is something entirely new. It came to full force with the illegitimate occupooping of the White House by the Indonesian.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N3Mch)

Not buying it. Barry wasn't a criminal mastermind. He didn't turn the FBI from a collection of God Fearing Great Americans to today's bunch in eight years.

Post Cold War ... the FBI needed a threat to justify their existence. They tried the War on Drugs for a while. 9/11 and the Patriot Act gave 'em something better. The Public.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (mvp+a)

283 This is scary shit to be honest.A true independent press would be howling.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2019 01:15 PM (BXMxN)

284 Anybody else notice that there is a new FBI series on tv?

Posted by: Shitavious Cook at April 05, 2019 01:12 PM (m/Gc2)

I saw a commercial for a show called "Deep State" that looked like it was about the heroic adventures of the CIA. Yeah, a transparent attempt to defuse the term.

Posted by: espanostifer at April 05, 2019 01:15 PM (IBEZ0)

285
That quote is from a BB post from August of '016, just prior to Her Heinous' stunning defeat. If you really need your hair curled, go read it here.

http://tinyurl.com/y6h8fxx3

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivism at April 05, 2019 01:15 PM (HaL55)

286 Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (WjZvD)
******
Qresearch Boad on 8Chan is a sewer BUT there are people who can dig stuff like crazy & Q Posts there

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT
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Sewer: Yep. But: Yep. Yep.

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:15 PM (xQ5jl)

287 271 Trump ally Japan launched a sneak attack today on an asteroid.

No exact word on casualties at this time, but our intelligence experts believe that thousands of asterioidians probably died.

So far President Trump has failed to condemn the Japanese action. "

The key piece of technology used in the Japanese attack was a new Secret Weapon, "Preparation A".

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 05, 2019 01:15 PM (Kpl3J)

288
"They know that a durable majority of Americans believe in the promise of America and they know that if all the votes are counted, we'll win every time."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

How could Santa Claus possibly lose?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 05, 2019 01:15 PM (aKsyK)

289 Sen. Warren, 2018 truther: "Massive voter suppression prevented Stacy Abrams from becoming the rightful governor of Georgia."


Honest Injun?

Posted by: 1/024 of the way convinced at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (rFmwm)

290 The polling showed all along Trump was going to win and they knew it and developed the Plan B Presidential Abortion Pill.
--

I'd say it was more like full presidential election live birth abortion.

Posted by: shibumi, still cynical and now married longer than Nicolas Cage! at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (zY+5G)

291 282 This is something entirely new. It came to full force with the illegitimate occupooping of the White House by the Indonesian.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:10 PM (N3Mch)

Not buying it. Barry wasn't a criminal mastermind. He didn't turn the FBI from a collection of God Fearing Great Americans to today's bunch in eight years.

Post Cold War ... the FBI needed a threat to justify their existence. They tried the War on Drugs for a while. 9/11 and the Patriot Act gave 'em something better. The Public.
Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (mvp+a)

Let 100,000 Lavrenty Berias bloom.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (UnA8+)

292 Hillary's real server is buried under the W
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (UwneM)

In the HOLLYWOOD sign?
Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (Ts3fP)

nope. under the missing keyboard keys ...

Posted by: Adriane the Funemployment Critic ... at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (LPnfS)

293 Obama didn't have to be smart, just evil. There is the difference.

Posted by: Archer at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

294 If every vote,real,imagined and multiple were counted Stacey Abrams would have won.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (BXMxN)

295 George Papadoppler rustled my jimmies in the third grade. He did it in a very Russian way.

Posted by: Rachel Madcow at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (iys0/)

296 205 Good God. I don't know if people even grasp how serious this is.

American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, along with the Executive Branch of our government staged and funded a political operation to smear a presidential candidate. In the process, they used U.S. government resources, and not only perpetrated criminal or possibly treasonous acts, but used foreign governments as part of the plot in order to get around restrictions on spying on U.S. persons.

Most of these actors also demonstrably lied to Congress and investigators, which is the basic crime most people swept up by Mueller were jailed on.

But yeah, Barr is covering up the Mueller Report or something.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THIS

Posted by: deadrody at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (svv54)

297 Has the conversation turned to bewbies yet?

Posted by: Puddin Head @ CNN at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (2LelM)

298 289 Sen. Warren, 2018 truther: "Massive voter suppression prevented Stacy Abrams from becoming the rightful governor of Georgia."


Honest Injun?
Posted by: 1/024 of the way convinced at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (rFmwm)


Why the hell is suddenly EVERYBODY pivoting to talk about Tank?

Rape Fantasy Bernie did it too.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (UnA8+)

299 Obama is a lazy fuck but he is on board with all this and encouraging while he watches Sportscenter.

Posted by: steevy at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (BXMxN)

300 Please tell me Abrams is going to run for POTUS too.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (wGbBR)

301 They knew the plot was ongoing. I think that is what helped her keep her cool during the debate. HRC was contemplating the utter destruction she was going to bring to DJT after November 2016.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (Brfdf)

Which dovetails with why Hillarity! couldn't face her adoring fans on election night to tell them she lost. SHE couldn't believe it so she got drunk instead, slinging a few objects for good measure. (I sooooo want to see video of her that night.)

Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (Y8PSl)

302 I'm in Apple Store.
It's such a cult.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM

Have I mentioned I can eat one through a chain link fence?

Posted by: Alexandria dOnkey-Chompers at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (Ay+Od)

303 So it's even fucking worse then we thought.
Posted by: Max Power at April 05, 2019 01:00 PM (Hucnr)

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Not for me. This is all sadly predictable.

The only reason this is coming as a surprise to people is that Americans have grown used to comparatively responsible government over the centuries. That's the exception, not the rule, and now our government is just as filthy and corrupt as the rest.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 05, 2019 01:02 PM (AzW6q)



If anyone is surprised they didn't pay attention to Hillary the first time around.


I argued that this TYPE of stuff would be the usual to the cucks who were too "principled" to vote trump. They seemed to have no idea what having Hillary, or Obama for that matter would do to the deep state. This is nothing compared to what probably went on and is going on.

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 01:18 PM (nRWPy)

304 Gaylord's March Madness brackets were actually code.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 05, 2019 01:18 PM (UwneM)

305 293 Obama didn't have to be smart, just evil. There is the difference.
Posted by: Archer at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

And this is why people laughing off AOC isn't wise.

You don't have to be smart to be dangerous.

Just evil and vicious.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 05, 2019 01:18 PM (UnA8+)

306 Never underestimate the resentment of our girl Obama. She's a real bitch.

Posted by: Puddin Head @ CNN at April 05, 2019 01:18 PM (2LelM)

307 nood more spies

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 01:18 PM (Ts3fP)

308 302 I'm in Apple Store.
It's such a cult.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 05, 2019 01:08 PM
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How many Asian techies and droids are hovering about?

Posted by: Puddin Head @ CNN at April 05, 2019 01:19 PM (2LelM)

309 235 People around the world should be disappearing and dropping dead out of the blue, and Barky, Brennan, Clapper, Shrillary, Lynch, Comey, Mueller, and every other lowlife traitor in Barky's junta should be no-knock raided at 3 am by itchy-fingered SWAT teams and perp-walked into some prison building never to be heard from again.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:04 PM (N3Mch)

---------

Or at least given a purple nurple.

Posted by: MAGA at April 05, 2019 01:19 PM (XupTG)

310 Not buying it. Barry wasn't a criminal mastermind. He didn't turn the FBI from a collection of God Fearing Great Americans to today's bunch in eight years.

He certainly is no criminal mastermind. He's a malevolent retard. He fired every pro-American that popped his head out and advanced all the dregs of society and marxist/maoist/lennininst buddies he could find. He had lots of help, obviously, but it was all at his direction - as was pretty much everything that happened while he was illigitimately occupooping the Oval Office.


Post Cold War ... the FBI needed a threat to justify their existence. They tried the War on Drugs for a while. 9/11 and the Patriot Act gave 'em something better. The Public.

Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 01:14 PM (mvp+a)

Nope. This was not anything about the FBI going rogue all on its own. That's almost laughable. This all came from the White House and was coordinated with it. The only thing that let it progress so quickly and deeply was that the GOP couldn't be bothered with trying to stop any of these traitors while they held the House and Senate because, for most of them, they were still scared shitless to do anything to Barky or his lackies to be called "rrraaaaaaciissttssss!!!" by the lowlife leftists. So, the treasonous crowds in all the arms of the Executive branch grew and grew and grew.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 05, 2019 01:19 PM (N3Mch)

311 301 They knew the plot was ongoing. I think that is what helped her keep her cool during the debate. HRC was contemplating the utter destruction she was going to bring to DJT after November 2016.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (Brfdf)

Which dovetails with why Hillarity! couldn't face her adoring fans on election night to tell them she lost. SHE couldn't believe it so she got drunk instead, slinging a few objects for good measure. (I sooooo want to see video of her that night.)
Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (Y8PSl)

That would imply that she has a conscience.

Posted by: m at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (Ts3fP)

312 This is scary shit to be honest.A true independent press would be howling.
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The press is in on it.

Remember that scene from Stripes where they are meeting with the recruiter to join the army . . . Is this Russia, this isn't Russia. Is it?

Its pretty much Russia in disguise. The media is a disinformation op. The government is only one party. Dissidents are unpersoned. The secret police are out to get patriots.

Well we aren't really that completely gone, but you SEE now there are a lot more similarities than you would have thought possible.

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (WjZvD)

313 OT: Holy shit, have you seen this?
https://nyp.st/2FR674J

They're all wearing Bernie shirts in the photo accompanying the article. It's not clear what it's talking about regarding the kids. No removal proceedings are mentioned.


Posted by: Xander Crews at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (miXS6)

314 The scope of the conspiracy extended to the intel agencies of our closest allies, which were used to unlawfully backdoor spy on Trump. One can understand the O and HRC motivation, but why would our allies allow themselves to be entangled in this? $

HRC admin would have bankrupted the US through the TPP, Paris Accords, and destructive economic policies. Would have given away all of the wealth of the US to the rest of the world. A continuation of the last 20 years of economic policy but turned up to 11. The US would have been disarmed and turned into a 3rd world country.

Posted by: Uncle Si at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (F7vOh)

315
Sen. Warren, 2018 truther: "Massive voter suppression prevented Stacy Abrams from becoming the rightful governor of Georgia."


You should always use massive and Stacy Abrams together in the same sentence.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (TAmPV)

316 especially intel/counterintel - closely held and compartmentalized so that its really only a few people who see the whole picture.

The model works well in general but the fatal flaw is: what happens when you get sociopath(s) at the top of the hierarchy?

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (xQ5jl)

and the problem for a free country is that, sooner or later you ALWAYS get a sociopath at the top of hierarchy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (Kpl3J)

317 293 Obama didn't have to be smart, just evil. There is the difference.
Posted by: Archer at April 05, 2019 01:16 PM (gmo/4)



He's not even smart enough to be evil. He's just a tool of his handlers.

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (nRWPy)

318 300 Please tell me Abrams is going to run for POTUS too.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (wGbBR)

Since Gillum is now claiming he had the election stolen, too, I think they both should jump in the fray.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (Brfdf)

319 How come Obama gets all the credit for corrupting the FBI?

It's like y'all never heard of the Vince Foster investigation!

Or the OK City bombing investigation!

Or the TWA 800 investigation!

The FBI did a lot of good in my administration, like ferret out all those crooks in the White House Travel Office so my pals could take it over!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 05, 2019 01:21 PM (DuAZ5)

320 Why the hell is suddenly EVERYBODY pivoting to talk about Tank?

Rape Fantasy Bernie did it too.
Posted by: Hikaru


For the same reason these idiots are parading before the oh-so reverend Al 'let's murder Joos' Sharpton. She's a black race hustler who is politically active.

By combining her with 'we didn't win = voter suppression' they are doing their pandering best.

Posted by: 1/024 of the way convinced at April 05, 2019 01:21 PM (rFmwm)

321 >>Sen. Warren, 2018 truther: "Massive voter suppression prevented Stacy Abrams from becoming the rightful governor of Georgia."

"They know that a durable majority of Americans believe in the promise of America and they know that if all the votes are counted, we'll win every time."
- - - -
Yeah, "suppression" = cleaning up the voter rolls, as required by law, and removing about 90K people who were registered but could not be confirmed (reached at the address in which they were registered under).

NOT suppression. Eliminating 90K registrants whose existence could be used to dump up to 90K fake ballots and not set off concerns that the # votes exceeded the # of people registered to vote.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 05, 2019 01:21 PM (W+vEI)

322 245 Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at April 05, 2019 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

Then quit acting like a pollyanna. The FBI is made up of bad actors, and those who cover for them.
Posted by: Democracy Run Amok at April 05, 2019 01:07 PM (mvp+a)

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Stop it. The FBI employs 35,000 people. They are NOT all complicit. The idea that they are is simple and stupid.

In the DIRECTOR level ? Sure. But I don't think we've reached a point where getting out and telling all is a better option than going along IF someone wasn't an active participant.

I'd be quite curious how far down the management chain you'd have to go to actually get to someone that knew and wasn't a participant.

The actual ILLEGAL part of this was very likely constrained to a handful of people - Comey, Strozk, Page, McCabe, etc. They got the whole thing moving, and then the rest of the FBI got involved, likely, without knowing it was based on total BS.

Posted by: deadrody at April 05, 2019 01:21 PM (svv54)

323 HRC admin would have bankrupted the US through the TPP, Paris Accords, and destructive economic policies. Would have given away all of the wealth of the US to the rest of the world. A continuation of the last 20 years of economic policy but turned up to 11. The US would have been disarmed and turned into a 3rd world country.
Posted by: Uncle Si at April 05, 2019 01:20 PM (F7vOh)



And in the process Hillary would have gotten Besos rich though the "foundation."

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 01:21 PM (nRWPy)

324 Why the hell is suddenly EVERYBODY pivoting to talk about Tank?
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Because we do what we're told.

Posted by: The Media at April 05, 2019 01:21 PM (TaX85)

325 Has the conversation turned to bewbies yet?

Posted by: Puddin Head @ CNN at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (2LelM)
........

Natasha and Svetlana have been mentioned.

Posted by: wth at April 05, 2019 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

326 301 Which dovetails with why Hillarity! couldn't face her adoring fans on election night to tell them she lost. SHE couldn't believe it so she got drunk instead, slinging a few objects for good measure. (I sooooo want to see video of her that night.)
Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2019 01:17 PM (Y8PSl)

She is such a presumptuous bitch, I doubt is she even considered for a moment she might lose.

Posted by: Ever at April 05, 2019 01:23 PM (Brfdf)

327 The FBI threw the James Hodgekinson investigation too.



So that tells me its leadership hands down "you will conclude" directions.

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 01:23 PM (nRWPy)

328 every other lowlife traitor in Barky's junta should be no-knock raided
at 3 am by itchy-fingered SWAT teams and perp-walked into some prison
building never to be heard from again.
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You and I both know that they only play those games with the elderly and minors. They wouldn't risk their necks with people who would retaliate

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 05, 2019 01:23 PM (MIKMs)

329 especially intel/counterintel - closely held and compartmentalized so that its really only a few people who see the whole picture.

The model works well in general but the fatal flaw is: what happens when you get sociopath(s) at the top of the hierarchy?

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (xQ5jl)

and the problem for a free country is that, sooner or later you ALWAYS get a sociopath at the top of hierarchy.


Posted by: Tom Servo
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Oh, it totally happens in non free countries too!!!

Posted by: The Original Uncle Joe Stalin at April 05, 2019 01:24 PM (WjZvD)

330 11
I am still waiting for the honest ham and eggers at the FBI to resign in protest over the criminal enterprise their bureau has become and forfeit that huge govmint salary, retirement and expense account.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 05, 2019 12:12 PM (Z+IKu)

Don't forget our gold-plated healthcare plan. You don't expect us to sign up for Obamacare like the rest of you peasants, do you? As if!

Posted by: Straight-arrow FBI agent at April 05, 2019 01:24 PM (xjiRE)

331 nood

Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2019 01:24 PM (nRWPy)

332 "Deep State" is a Brit television series.

Here the dipshits in Hollywood would try and make the whole "Deep State" seem like a good thing without understanding it would be like
doing a show called "Our Fuhrer" a quirky series about single suburban politician Adlof Hilter and the zany but warm stories of his interaction with his neighbors and their pets and children.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 05, 2019 01:24 PM (37IEG)

333 especially intel/counterintel - closely held and compartmentalized so that its really only a few people who see the whole picture.

The model works well in general but the fatal flaw is: what happens when you get sociopath(s) at the top of the hierarchy?

Posted by: simplemind at April 05, 2019 01:13 PM (xQ5jl)

and the problem for a free country is that, sooner or later you ALWAYS get a sociopath at the top of hierarchy.


Posted by: Tom Servo
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Oh, it totally happens in non free countries too!!!

Posted by: The Original Uncle Joe Stalin
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Yes I agree. Have you read my book?

Posted by: Chairman Mao at April 05, 2019 01:27 PM (WjZvD)

334 Sen. Warren, 2018 truther: "Massive voter suppression prevented Stacy Abrams from becoming the rightful governor of Georgia."


How.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 05, 2019 01:27 PM (yQpMk)

335 The polling showed all along Trump was going to win and they knew it and developed the Plan B Presidential Abortion Pill.
*******
Yep! this is what stuck with me, Why did they concoct this ridiculous plan to nail PDT if he wasn't ever going to sniff the WH ??

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 05, 2019 01:29 PM (BqBId)

336 Hikaru, I think the reason the FBI accepted the Crowdstrike examination was that it came to the conclusion they wanted, which was "Russians hacked the DNC." If they had given the server to their own lab to do forensic analysis, it might have come to a different conclusion, which would have been . . . inconvenient.

rhomboid, take the Carter Page wiretap example (let alone "two hops," whoever that might have been). If you trusted your chain of command in 2016 that this was a valid counterintelligence surveillance operation, how could you possibly still believe that in 2019? Think about how many people had to have been involved in surveilling all the possible Russian contacts within two hops of Page. That's pretty much the entire campaign staff. Was it just electronics, or did they do physical surveillance of some of them? Did they go through KellyAnne Conway's garbage? Remember that right after Admiral Rogers made the surprise visit to Trump Tower, the transition moved to Bedminster. It's a reasonable inference that bugs were installed in Trump Tower, and I know Priestap and Strzok didn't do that. This thing was huge.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 05, 2019 01:34 PM (YE5vl)

337 283: We have an incestuous press, Cuomo, Stephanopoulos (Clinton), Chris Matthews (O'Neill), Tapper (in bed with PP) Chuck Todd (married a Gary Condit! employee and total donkette)

Posted by: CN at April 05, 2019 01:37 PM (U7k5w)

338 Well, it isn't at 11 yet, but it might be cranked up to 10.5.


Wake me when a significant connected major player from our elite ruling class is doing hard time!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 05, 2019 01:44 PM (f3oO4)

339 Yep! this is what stuck with me, Why did they
concoct this ridiculous plan to nail PDT if he wasn't ever going to
sniff the WH ??

Posted by: Deep State is in DEEP SHIT at April 05, 2019 01:29 PM (BqBId)
It was NOT enough to merely defeat Trump, or harass him in the unlikely event he won, the rationale was to demonstrate to whatever independent patriot that might ever consider running for high would know that the massive unchecked power of the entire Deep Establishment would hound him, his family, his associates, and his supporters to bankruptcy, disgrace, and the grave.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 05, 2019 01:49 PM (f3oO4)

340 well, time's a wasting folks. Get them to jail already

Posted by: Keto not Beto at April 05, 2019 01:56 PM (9AcAx)

341 At this point, if you don't think the FBI is rotten from the top, you simply aren't paying attention.


Every day that the leaders of this Coup are not behind bars is one more day closer to the End.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 05, 2019 01:57 PM (sy5kK)

342 There is a new tv series about the FBI. They have commercials in between episodes with real agents that talk about their love of the FBI and how meaningful their work is. Real acting.

Posted by: Cheri at April 05, 2019 01:58 PM (oiNtH)

343 T his credit, Limbaugh has been saying this forever.

Posted by: Quilp at April 05, 2019 02:24 PM (Bf3hj)

344 "Operation Crossfire Hurricane"
Just the fucking NAME of that is indicative if WHEN and WHO hatched this bullshit fest.
They were so full of themselves that they named their illegal activities a lyric of rolling stones song.. and who always played rolling stones at his rallies?
All of these fucks need to be tried, convicted and executed

Posted by: Getcha Pull at April 05, 2019 02:45 PM (aR6C/)

345 I'm going to go out on a limb here: I'm beginning to think that perhaps Trump isn't a Russian asset after all.

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at April 05, 2019 03:23 PM (Uu7xZ)

346 Coming in very late to say that this is the most important story of the day, week, month, year, and it will get absolutely no traction. No justice, no peace.

God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion
-Thomas Jefferson

-motionview

Posted by: motionview at April 05, 2019 03:31 PM (pYQR/)

347 I'm reading Papadopoulos's book. I'm about half way through. It's hilarious. George is an ambitious hard striving guy who wants to do big things and when good things happen, like when seemingly important people get real interested in his work on the eastern Med and energy, he claps his hands and jumps for joy. I think I see myself as a naive young man on every page. He learns to be a cynic later, sitting in a cell, after having his civil rights violated by the FBI. I got interested in the book after I heard him on Hannity talking with his wife about how they met. Morons will be interested to note she is smoking hot and seems to be a lot smarter than George. A happy ending. I wish them a long and prosperous life together.

Posted by: John W at April 05, 2019 03:58 PM (v7b8O)

348 Come on, you can get better sourcing than The Last Refuge, whose tinfoil hat conspiracy theories about the Mueller investigation have been totally debunked by events.

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