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Google Manager Lectured Employee: We Have to Take Fake News and Hate Speech Seriously, Because That's Why Trump Won the Election

Alrightee then.

Let's give Google more legal authority to Censor All The Things.

On Monday, Google software engineer Mike Wacker published an email he received from a fellow Google employee. That employee recounted a discussion with his manager in which the manager said Donald Trump won the 2016 election thanks to fake news and hate speech.

"I posted a comment on a meme regarding fake news on Search and someone reported it to HR. I didn't say I was in favor or against, just cautioned that we need to be carful [sic]," the anonymous employee wrote. "My manager brought it up in our 1:1 last week. Made me feel very uncomfortable for having an opposing view. He said we need to stop hate speatch [sic] and fake news because that's how Trump won the election..."

The terrified employee kept quiet, censoring himself. "I obviously didn't say anything and just wanted it to end. I...would like to see all managers required to take political bias training," he wrote.

Worse, the "Bias Busting" course at Google demonized conservatives and Trump supporters, the employee wrote.

More at the link.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:23 PM




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1 Google is evil.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 11, 2019 06:18 PM (sy5kK)

2 Oh, and first.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 11, 2019 06:18 PM (sy5kK)

3 Don't be evil.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2019 06:19 PM (ptqGC)

4 Second too?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 11, 2019 06:19 PM (sy5kK)

5 We need a Teddy Roosevelt to start trustbusting these monopolies. It's why despite most conservatives disliking him, I have always been a big fan of T.R.

Gawd, I sound like AOC.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:20 PM (VWp7G)

6 Sponge

Posted by: FIRST!!!!! at March 11, 2019 06:20 PM (C1NyB)

7 They really believe this lol.

Although a lot of it was the media freaking out about the proliferation of news sites (yes some were fake making shit up but many weren't just commentary on other stories and passing them around) because people using those aren't getting their daily dose of propaganda from the MSM. That's why they're still beating this horse.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 11, 2019 06:21 PM (4ErVI)

8 Yeah, read it again. but I'm not bitter.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2019 06:21 PM (9oE3U)

9 3 Don't be evil.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2019 06:19 PM (ptqGC)

-----------------

You're no fun.

Posted by: blake - used High Sierra Salesman at March 11, 2019 06:22 PM (qC1Sy)

10

He [the manager] sounds nice.

Posted by: imp at March 11, 2019 06:22 PM (w+Z9D)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 11, 2019 06:22 PM (90ehy)

12 This fella would make a fine, fine Blue Origin spacemonkey.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2019 06:23 PM (wxZSX)

13 Totally not creepy at all.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 11, 2019 06:23 PM (t6MX/)

14
Google needs mor tittiehs...

Posted by: M K Ultra at March 11, 2019 06:23 PM (UFLLM)

15 I posted a comment on a meme regarding fake news on Search and someone reported it to HR.

HR is evil.

Google is it's prophet.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:23 PM (LL1Be)

16 Man, that guy mangled the word "speech" about as badly as it's possible to do.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 11, 2019 06:23 PM (AzW6q)

17 Don't be evil.

Beep, beep.

Posted by: MAGA at March 11, 2019 06:24 PM (I5LRE)

18 Bluegle

Posted by: ... at March 11, 2019 06:24 PM (uEbPt)

19 >>>HR is evil.


You shut it!

Posted by: Pam Poovey at March 11, 2019 06:24 PM (VWp7G)

20 Don't be evil.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2019 06:19 PM (ptqGC)

Too late. Evil has found a nice, comfy home in America.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 06:24 PM (q40QC)

21 The left has never changed. From time of Lenin and Stalin they have NEVER been for free speech. They have always been for censorship, jail, and death

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2019 06:24 PM (bim/x)

22 >>>They have always been for censorship, jail, and death



And erasing all reference to those killed.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:25 PM (VWp7G)

23 2019 in a nutshell: I posted a comment on a meme about Fake News and someone reported it to HR.

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 06:25 PM (ZfRYq)

24

Freedom: how does it fucking work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 11, 2019 06:26 PM (HaL55)

25 in other breaking news - Water is wet, Fire Burns, Wind blows.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 11, 2019 06:26 PM (Kpl3J)

26 Eh.

Time to bust up Google.

They busted up the oil companies, they can certainly do it to a search engine.

Do it, President Trump! Now! Before they can help the Dims in 2020.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 11, 2019 06:26 PM (9X624)

27
Truss Busting? Dammit, ya want me to rupture myself agin?

Posted by: Gramps at March 11, 2019 06:26 PM (UFLLM)

28 21 The left has never changed. From time of Lenin and Stalin they have NEVER been for free speech. They have always been for censorship, jail, and death
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2019 06:24 PM (bim/x)




The difference between the left and the right usually ends up being measured in grains.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 11, 2019 06:26 PM (sy5kK)

29 They are working in China to learn how to control us people when they take control. Google

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 11, 2019 06:27 PM (XbTPm)

30 in other breaking news - Water is wet, Fire Burns, Wind blows.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 11, 2019 06:26 PM (Kpl3J)

Beer nuts, cotton balls.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 11, 2019 06:27 PM (xPJvm)

31 They will never either realize or admit that while the Tea Party was a request from the people that D.C. change its ways, PDT was/is our final peaceful demand that things change.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 06:27 PM (ffYR/)

32 The socialist answer for Google is what is needed.

The government should take them over and give poor brown and black folks the step up they need to compete in our soon to be socialist paradise.

Plus all the sodomites who run it now can move on to bigger and better things.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2019 06:27 PM (Z+IKu)

33 And our feckless congress KNOWS that Google and Facebook are doing this and they cannot do shit about it.


Google and Facebook will do everything they can to get the Dems elected and Trump will not be able to use the same tools as last time.

And who can stop them?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2019 06:28 PM (pUDQf)

34 Wait until you wingnuts get a taste of our death algorithms!

Posted by: Googly at March 11, 2019 06:28 PM (Tyii7)

35 this tech bubble makes the previous tech bubble seems like childs' play

I hate this tech bubble

I wish it were 2001 again!

burst bubble burst!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2019 06:28 PM (Rarvo)

36 Google is a despicable company, but they own petty much everything internet-related. Little we can do about their censorship and bias, except eradicate them from our devices.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:28 PM (VWp7G)

37 Here's the thing about additional laws on this:

It's already illegal in California to discriminate in employment based on political views. Google's HR department obviously believes, correctly, that such laws will never be applied to Alphabet.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 11, 2019 06:28 PM (GbPPJ)

38 the google manager is not wrong. it was fake news and hate speech coming from the left that threw the election Trump's way.

Donald Trump never called me deplorable.

Posted by: x at March 11, 2019 06:29 PM (nFwvY)

39 Yeah, I'd break Google up into two companies: Goo and Gle.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 11, 2019 06:29 PM (hjaPQ)

40 It's funny because we can see socialism at work at companies like Google and Facebook, even though they're not national governments. It exposes the authoritarian mentality that is present even as the company is succeeding fiscally (in government's case, economically).

The authoritarianism never goes away, even in the face of economic success.

Posted by: J at March 11, 2019 06:29 PM (6t/E2)

41 Has anyone mentioned the vagina cupcakes yet?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 11, 2019 06:29 PM (t6MX/)

42 the anonymous employee wrote.

Huh. Nobody is anonymous to Google.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 06:30 PM (oTMWb)

43 TRUST BUST

Posted by: dagny at March 11, 2019 06:30 PM (nRWPy)

44 "Trump Won Because of Fake News is a nice excuse.

Under President Hag it was going to be Fake News is Dividing Us. Fake News is a Terroristic Danger to the Presidency.

Censorship was coming either way. Faster under Hillary for sure.

Posted by: ... at March 11, 2019 06:30 PM (uEbPt)

45 Basically what delighted us -- the right using social media to bypass the legacy media and reach people with facts they wanted suppressed -- horrified the left. And since they only get their info from the hard left, they considered all that information "fake" and likely from Russia.'

So Something Had To Be Done. Since the Republicans controlled congress they couldn't get a law passed but the social media mavens, well they could be called into a few meetings and learn how this must be stopped. And so the bannings, censorship and so on all started. And now its much harder to get word out because they'll flat out delete your posts and ban you if you share info they don't like to be seen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 11, 2019 06:30 PM (39g3+)

46 It's already illegal in California to discriminate in employment based on political views.

Which is why selective enforcement is so awesome.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 06:31 PM (oTMWb)

47 You know how i knew google was evil/

When google said 'Don't be evil."

Leftists lie to your face but want to let fellow travelers know they are lying.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 11, 2019 06:31 PM (pw+jk)

48 Old school ropes and lamp posts are very underrated.


And yes, they have lamp posts in and around Google HQ.


I checked by Googling it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 11, 2019 06:32 PM (sy5kK)

49 Including the spelling errors in the email is a method to get a perpetrator caught.

Posted by: jc at March 11, 2019 06:32 PM (PuMKG)

50 Trump is why Trump won the election. He doesn't need fake news.

Wait until the wails in 2020. Gonna make the 2016 sky screams and literal shaking look positively sunny.

Posted by: ... at March 11, 2019 06:32 PM (uEbPt)

51 Ministry of Troogle.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:32 PM (oVJmc)

52 https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/11/terminally-ill-girl-k9-dogs/

Send you're wishes.

Posted by: ryukyu at March 11, 2019 06:32 PM (vKhgw)

53 Maybe the good news is the left will report on what Trump says. And while they are making shocked faces, most people will agree with what Trump said. At least secretly.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2019 06:33 PM (pUDQf)

54 Social credit system is already here.

Posted by: Dead Horses at March 11, 2019 06:33 PM (awqYm)

55 Yes, the hate speech and fake news about Trump helped him win...

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Two Conniptions and Get a Free Fitting at The Outrage Outlet! at March 11, 2019 06:33 PM (0QYMt)

56 In ALL societies, ALL places, ALL times the most Radical position of all has *ALWAYS* been to be in further of unrestricted Free Speech.

And understand, Free Speech that has to be protected is ALWAYS that speech which is *unpopular* with the Majority. "Popular" opinions never need any protection, it is only those opinions that a majority, or a Government, despises that need to be shielded. To say that these opinions must be heard is a truly Radical, and almost always Unpopular, in the broad sense, position.

Those who want to gain Power are always desperate to squash the words of any of those who might stand in their way to Power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 11, 2019 06:34 PM (Kpl3J)

57 My manager brought it up in our 1:1 last week. Made me feel very uncomfortable for having an opposing view.
I do remember at least one guy who threatened to go through the parking lot and fire everybody with an Obama sticker on their car, because Obamacare was going to bankrupt his business.

This is the leftist version, with virtually no logic, reason, or accountability, ie. something something "fake nooz elected ORANGEMANBAD" something.

Maybe Google employees should quit working for pure-fucking-evil-Skynet and start a business, or join one of a million less-evil companies?


#learntocodesolo

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:34 PM (LL1Be)

58 The authoritarianism never goes away, even in the face of economic success.
Posted by: J at March 11, 2019 06:29 PM (6t/E2)

===

However, economic success always goes away in the face of authoritarianism.

Posted by: jc at March 11, 2019 06:35 PM (PuMKG)

59
Your ISP's, DNA and Facial Biometrics have been noted, Citizen.


Posted by: Bob from NSA, Moonlighting at Google at March 11, 2019 06:35 PM (UFLLM)

60

On Monday, Google software engineer Mike Wacker published an email he received from a fellow Google employee.

Next Monday, he'll be funemployed. As will his fellow Gulag employee.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 11, 2019 06:35 PM (HaL55)

61 I wish it were 2001 again!

burst bubble burst!


Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 11, 2019 06:28 PM (Rarvo)

The economy has changed radically since then, and real money is being spent on internet and social media products and ads. The bubble may come, but it won't be based on pie-in-the-sky revenue projections.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 06:36 PM (wYseH)

62 So Something Had To Be Done. Since the Republicans controlled congress they couldn't get a law passed but the social media mavens, well they could be called into a few meetings and learn how this must be stopped. And so the bannings, censorship and so on all started. And now its much harder to get word out because they'll flat out delete your posts and ban you if you share info they don't like to be seen."

It was always a huge error to allow private parties such vast power over political speech. It was bound to be abused, it is too much power concentrated in too few hands. I suppose the only surprise is that it was abused so quickly.

But the tech giants need to be busted up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 11, 2019 06:37 PM (Kpl3J)

63 How many times must this be said: Hate speech is not illegal!!

They don't *have* to stop anything, in fact, where do they get off regulating speech?! The only speech they should be policing are legitimate threats of violence by individuals and groups (e.g., ISIS).

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2019 06:37 PM (W+vEI)

64
I small EMP burst at every Google facility with hardware is what is needed.

As well as, well... YKWIM

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 11, 2019 06:37 PM (zBaqJ)

65 that link is so telling, did y'all catch the end where they have the lefties at Google trying to out the conservatives? Their own co-workers are their enemies! awesome

Posted by: DanMan at March 11, 2019 06:38 PM (XTiHL)

66 65 that link is so telling, did y'all catch the end where they have the lefties at Google trying to out the conservatives? Their own co-workers are their enemies! awesome
Posted by: DanMan at March 11, 2019 06:38 PM (XTiHL)


" Jawol!"

- - Children in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 11, 2019 06:38 PM (zBaqJ)

67 63 How many times must this be said: Hate speech is not illegal!!

They don't *have* to stop anything, in fact, where do they get off regulating speech?! The only speech they should be policing are legitimate threats of violence by individuals and groups (e.g., ISIS).
Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2019 06:37 PM (W+vEI)


Can't be repeated enough. This one little twist of things...make people comfortable with outlawing SOME speech instead of defending ALL speech. It's downright Orwellian.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2019 06:39 PM (pUDQf)

68 Wyatt Earp: "Google is a despicable company, but they own petty much everything internet-related. Little we can do about their censorship and bias, except eradicate them from our devices."

Yep. Still impossible to exclude their evil.

I use multiple proxy/privacy filters, my favorite local one being uMatrix. It's a granular web filter that tracks every URL/resource request from every web page. It's become unusual for me to visit a site - any site - without Google trying to track me either directly or indirectly. They provide all sorts of tools to website developers and, naturally, these developers employ those tools to make their lives easier and to make profit.

It's insidious and real work to navigate the WWW without Google's presence. They definitely need government regulation at this point. And by that I mean regulation by people who haven't been taking their money to get into office.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at March 11, 2019 06:39 PM (6eEQ+)

69 See how many free-and-easy fascists live at Google? Is it really hard to see how a place like Germany went Nazi?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

70 Of course you can speak freely here. Tell me what's on your mind. No, really.

Posted by: Shirley Beria, Google HR at March 11, 2019 06:39 PM (hjaPQ)

71 >>>I use multiple proxy/privacy filters, my favorite local one being uMatrix.


Writing it down now. Thanks.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:39 PM (bkUtD)

72 Their own co-workers are their enemies!
Da! That is how it works best!

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Joe Stalin at March 11, 2019 06:40 PM (Tyii7)

73 Well I mean if you cannot refuse service to someone based on their political allegiances, how can you do so to their writings online? Seems like they're making political statements with their private business and evading laws

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 11, 2019 06:40 PM (39g3+)

74 >>Can't be repeated enough. This one little twist of things...make people comfortable with outlawing SOME speech instead of defending ALL speech. It's downright Orwellian.


Sad that we need to be reminded: It's OK to hate.
No *emotion* should be outlawed. Watch Equilibrium, fascists.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2019 06:40 PM (W+vEI)

75 I use multiple proxy/privacy filters, my favorite local one being uMatrix.

Good advice. Also recommended: Disconnect, Ghostery and No Script.
And a couple of VPNs.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (LL1Be)

76
It thinks it controls Us, but really We control It!

Swearsies.

Posted by: Bob from NSA, Moonlighting at Google at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (UFLLM)

77 I was getting stupid Facebook promoted stuff about education and usually about how important teaching about bias was and training teachers to recognize their own... stuff like that. And there was inevitably bias right in the lead text.

I don't tend to be polite, not having *asked* for this crap to show up on my feed, but really, how obvious can they get?

It's not about eliminating bias, it's about making sure you've got the correct bias.

Always and ever.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (BD/yx)

78 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 06:36 PM (wYseH)

-------

I think the problem here is pie-in-the-sky valuations.

When Uber's market cap is higher than the big 3 automakers combined, you're looking at a serious market distortion, and when a few VCs really get hit in the teeth by some of these unicorn investments, the cash furnace will go cold in a hurry.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (xwAnB)

79 Prager played clips of Sandy O-C today and she said corporations were taking over the country, Google is as big as it gets so guess they are taking over.

Posted by: Skip at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (BbGew)

80 63 How many times must this be said: Hate speech is not illegal!!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2019 06:37 PM (W+vEI)


Ah, but in colleges today they are teaching that "hate speech is not free speech".

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (sdi6R)

81

RE: Rambeau/Capt Assless link in sidebar, funny comment--

All women named Carol will hereafter be called "Currl" instead. Capt'n Currl has a ring to it.

Posted by: imp at March 11, 2019 06:42 PM (w+Z9D)

82 The Lives of Others was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual.

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 06:42 PM (ZfRYq)

83 it sucks to be google

Posted by: trapper's girl at March 11, 2019 06:42 PM (xc+81)

84 Wyatt Earp: "Google is a despicable company, but they own petty much everything internet-related. Little we can do about their censorship and bias, except eradicate them from our devices."




Android (88% of the market) *IS* Google.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (oVJmc)

85 Lizzy: "How many times must this be said: Hate speech is not illegal!!"

Exactly. One doesn't have a right not to be offended.

Alas, we are dealing with a vast population of people who have no comprehension of the Constitution. We also have a dangerous number of politicians who comprehend it just fine but ignore it for their own ends.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (6eEQ+)

86 Yes, that's an ice pick. It has sentimental value.

Posted by: Shirley Beria, Google HR at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (hjaPQ)

87 >>>RE: Rambeau/Capt Assless link in sidebar, funny comment--

All women named Carol will hereafter be called "Currl" instead. Capt'n Currl has a ring to it.


YoungRippa is phenomenal, and he's also hilarious.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (bkUtD)

88
When there's something unWoke
On your corporate campus
Who ya gonna call?
BIAS BUSTERS!

Posted by: Hands at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (786Ro)

89 I misunderstand I think, they are gonna stop CNN, MSNBC and WaPo fake news.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (r+sAi)

90 The employee should have told his manager that Trump getting elected because of fake news was actually fake news.

I'm just kidding, he did the right thing.

Not worth getting fired over.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 06:43 PM (GBteo)

91 they are half right ... what THEY call "fake news" is something like, leaked emails that were true, about Hillary's misconduct.


"Russia was helping Trump" is fabricated DNC lies (which THEY think is real), backed up by lying to FISC and spying on Trump. So Comey pushes the "Trump/Russia under investigation" lie, but Google leftists STILL believe it, because it is the FakeNewsNarrative.


But the Truth leaking out helped Trump for sure, it is just that Google can't accept it as truth. The truth pushed DebbieDoesPakistan out, exposing her fixing of the primary. The Truth about CNN (Donna Brazille) leaking questions to Hillary came out, they can't accept that either.


But those truths (THEY call fake) did help Trump win. Crooked Hillary was Exposed. But the FBI took their revenge.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 11, 2019 06:44 PM (Cus5s)

92 Don't be Google

Posted by: Eisenhorn at March 11, 2019 06:44 PM (F6tBH)

93 Second look at Elizabeth Warren?

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 06:44 PM (ZfRYq)

94 Google's new motto: "At least do know evil"

Posted by: An Observation at March 11, 2019 06:45 PM (SCfQ/)

95 >>>Google's new motto: "At least do know evil"



See no evil... when we do it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (bkUtD)

96 If there were dozens of other companies that competed with Goolag, then I could give a shit.

The fact is they control virtually all pathways of information dissemination over the internet.

And that cannot be allowed to continue. And I do NOT want government "regulation" considering who and what our government is.

I want Google dismantled. All of it. Every last nut bolt and washer. We will not miss it one bit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (zBaqJ)

97 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (xwAnB)

Uber isn't publicly traded, so if some private equity group wants to value it at $70B, have at it.
The publicly traded companies are valued at sometimes silly multiples, but nothing like the 1990s crap.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (wYseH)

98 But the FBI took their revenge.
---
Speaking of revenge, I noticed that Trump's new budget killed the FBI's new headquarters building to the tune of $3.3 beelion.

Heh.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (hjaPQ)

99 Prager played clips of Sandy O-C today and she said
corporations were taking over the country, Google is as big as it gets
so guess they are taking over.

Posted by: Skip at March 11, 2019 06:41 PM (BbGew)

I bet she has big plans for Google, plans do not necessarily include Google's current management.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Two Conniptions and Get a Free Fitting at The Outrage Outlet! at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (0QYMt)

100 Thankfully the GOPe has fought for 20+ years to stop the insidious use of the term 'hate speech' to avoid having it enter unopposed into the lexicon of the US.

... and then I woke up

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (Hk+Y0)

101 That Altavista search engine is the shit!

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (ZfRYq)

102 >>>I want Google dismantled. All of it. Every last nut bolt and washer. We will not miss it one bit.



Agreed. I uninstalled Google on all my computers, and would literally enjoy any other browser. Well, maybe not the dicks at Firefox, but most others.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (bkUtD)

103 Sad that we need to be reminded: It's OK to hate.
No *emotion* should be outlawed. Watch Equilibrium, fascists.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 11, 2019 06:40 PM (W+vEI)

To the contrary... it's morally *mandated* to hate. What sort of monster would tolerate bad people or bad ideas? Huh? Huh?

/scowl

Some of us grew up with the idea that free speech was important and tolerance specifically applied to things that we found abhorrent. Now it's all picking sides and hating the people that deserve to be hated, usually because they supposedly hate people that don't deserve to be hated.

I swear the last generation of nincompoops left the church and never learned to identify how moral righteousness can go wrong because they were too busy feeling superior for not being superstitious. Turned them all into sanctimonious twats.

Posted by: Synova (reversion to pseudonymous) at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (BD/yx)

104 Break it up, and say it was Fauxcahontas' idea.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (oVJmc)

105 Second look at Elizabeth Warren?

I don't know which adviser is pulling her strings, but since Warren talked about busting up the tech giants, she is polling above Kamala Harris.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (LL1Be)

106 Ah, but in colleges today they are teaching that "hate speech is not free speech".

Hate speech causes psychological trauma to a member of a marginalized community.
--> Therefore the hate speech is violence.
----> Violence can be banned.
------> Hate speech can be banned.

Note this only applies if the "marginalized" premise is true, and so hate speech against crackers is still totally allowed.

Posted by: wooga at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (/BHSG)

107 Not worth getting fired over.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Joe Stalin at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (Tyii7)

108 Ah, but in colleges today they are teaching that "hate speech is not free speech".



Oh, yeah, break up the colleges, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:49 PM (oVJmc)

109 >>>I don't know which adviser is pulling her strings, but since Warren talked about busting up the tech giants, she is polling above Kamala Harris.



Still though, Harris is a train wreck who boinked her way to the top. Just like James Buchanan.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:49 PM (bkUtD)

110 Google does take fake news seriously. It's their jobs they are talking about!

Posted by: Axeman at March 11, 2019 06:49 PM (vDqXW)

111 101 That Altavista search engine is the shit!
Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019


Time stamps are off again.
This post is clearly from 1999.

Posted by: wooga at March 11, 2019 06:49 PM (/BHSG)

112 Number of days until Debbie Wasserman Schultz kneecaps Bernie Sanders?

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2019 06:49 PM (wxZSX)

113

"as long as the get to be on top, the stupid ass leftists will pretend to care about their diversity BS, but it's got to be on their terms."

More or less a quote. LOL the guy is right. We would probably disagree a lot on issues (or at least the solutions to those issues), but on that he's dead right. White liberalism is a form of racist paternalism that seeks to assert continued control over minorities. Black people have to do things for themselves, for sure, and when the left steps all over established black institutions of whatever sort for their own ends, all the "diversity" bullshit can't paper over that sort of disrespect.

Posted by: imp at March 11, 2019 06:50 PM (w+Z9D)

114 108 Ah, but in colleges today they are teaching that "hate speech is not free speech".



Oh, yeah, break up the colleges, too.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:49 PM (oVJmc)


Good point.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 06:50 PM (sdi6R)

115 The fact is they control virtually all pathways of information dissemination over the internet.



And that cannot be allowed to continue. And I do NOT want government "regulation" considering who and what our government is.


We used to worry that the Dems wanted to take over 1/3 of the US economy via non-competing, government-run healthcare.

What percentage of the US economy do the Progs control by proxy via the tech giants?
Half?
60%?

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM (LL1Be)

116 Uber isn't publicly traded, so if some private equity group wants to value it at $70B, have at it.
The publicly traded companies are valued at sometimes silly multiples, but nothing like the 1990s crap.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (wYseH)

----------------------------

They will be soon, especially since Lyft announced. Their last funding round from Softbank valued it at $48B. I'll bet it is closer to $30B once the Street gets it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM (ffYR/)

117 And that cannot be allowed to continue. And I do NOT want government "regulation" considering who and what our government is.

I want Google dismantled. All of it. Every last nut bolt and washer. We will not miss it one bit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (zBaqJ)

I don't know if you saw the twitter folks on joe rogans podcast recently, but they seemed completely taken aback at the idea that people "on the right" might favor passing regulations or the like on the big tech companies. Tim Pool mentioned it and the Twitter Lawyer Lady was like "ummm, no. I'm in DC a lot, I haven't heard that." then alluded that the left was more likely to be the ones trying to pass regulations.

I mean, I get where Big tech is coming from. They just need push back from the right. And they don't see it for whatever reason.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM (GBteo)

118 mikeyG: "Good advice. Also recommended: Disconnect, Ghostery and No Script.
And a couple of VPNs."


I haven't employed VPNs yet. On my ToDo list at some point.

I use Ghostery and AdGuard with some other security suites to stop the most dangerous threats. And a hardware firewall.

But the uMatrix filter is really the most convenient tool I have. Since it can block every resource, no script or code reaches my browser/renderer without me knowing about it and allowing it. It's a wonderfully designed tool. Takes some time to learn its features, but that line of proxy-filtering (there are other iterations that are quite similar) is awesome.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM (6eEQ+)

119 CW2.0 is gonna bust up a LOT of stuff.

I don't think it will all be planned.

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 06:52 PM (ZfRYq)

120 Note this only applies if the "marginalized" premise is true, and so hate speech against crackers is still totally allowed.
Posted by: wooga at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (/BHSG)
---
Yeah, it's ironic that supposedly it takes power to be racist, but people would like to make we "racists" powerless to stop being beaten because we're "racists".

We're just tired of words meaning certain things and not others.

Posted by: Axeman at March 11, 2019 06:52 PM (vDqXW)

121 Is it legal for Google to rig an election? All this concern about Russia, with massive censorship and de-platforming ongoing by the internet giants.


thinly veiled claims of supporting their ethical codes ... just blatant lies. Say they have a right to deny conservatives service (while being a monopoly) ... do they have the right to lie about that, acquiring market share under the rubric of fairness, while actually being a commie propaganda machine AND a digital kill team.


If someone sells a car, knowing it has deadly faults (the real exploding Pinto) ... they would be libel. But Google can destroy our political information system with lies and deceit, and "no big deal"? At the least they need a cigarette style warning ... "we are leftists and commies that will screw conservatives at every turn, and we hate traditional America ... Users Beware"

Posted by: illiniwek at March 11, 2019 06:53 PM (Cus5s)

122 I got an e-mail from an outfit called something like "takebackthehouse2020" begging for money. I thought, "Yeah, you guys were so effective when you held it for the last two years."

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 06:53 PM (sdi6R)

123
Thankfully the GOPe has fought for 20+ years to stop the insidious use of the term 'hate speech' to avoid having it enter unopposed into the lexicon of the US.

... and then I woke up
Posted by: weft cut-loop


Big Bizz and the GOPe are behind the push for a "hate crime" law in Indiana.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2019 06:53 PM (aKsyK)

124 Their last funding round from Softbank valued it at $48B. I'll bet it is closer to $30B once the Street gets it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM (ffYR/)

Heh...just checked. Their current round is claiming a $62B valuation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 06:54 PM (wYseH)

125 105 Second look at Elizabeth Warren?

I don't know which adviser is pulling her strings, but since Warren talked about busting up the tech giants, she is polling above Kamala Harris.
Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (LL1Be)

Fake Indian, fake trust buster. Co-opt her fake platform and her voters.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 11, 2019 06:54 PM (t6MX/)

126 They just need push back from the right.

-----

Oh, we "push back" all right, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Cruisin' and Cuckin' at March 11, 2019 06:54 PM (xwAnB)

127 Googles CEO worked pro bono for the Obama campaign. Can they influence elections?

Umm, yeah.

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 06:55 PM (ZfRYq)

128

"Facebook takes down Elizabeth Warren ads calling for breakup of Facebook"

LOL, from Politico

Posted by: imp at March 11, 2019 06:55 PM (w+Z9D)

129 I haven't employed VPNs yet. On my ToDo list at some point.

Check out 'Streisand' on GitHub. Setup a virtual server somewhere and roll your own VPN. Pretty fun little project and gives you more control over the pipe. (highly recommended by Chinese dissidents).

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:55 PM (LL1Be)

130 Evil First.

Posted by: Google at March 11, 2019 06:55 PM (vDqXW)

131
"Facebook takes down Elizabeth Warren ads calling for breakup of Facebook"

LOL, from Politico
Posted by: imp at March 11, 2019 06:55 PM (w+Z9D)

to be fair, it sounds like it's because she used facebooks intellectual property (probably their logo) in her ad, which is a big no no.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 06:56 PM (GBteo)

132 At the least they need a cigarette style warning ... "we are leftists and commies that will screw conservatives at every turn, and we hate traditional America ... Users Beware"
Posted by: illiniwek at March 11, 2019 06:53 PM (Cus5s)

This.

Ubiquitously.

Posted by: golfman at March 11, 2019 06:56 PM (OE84+)

133 Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 06:55 PM (LL1Be)

Thanks

Posted by: golfman at March 11, 2019 06:56 PM (OE84+)

134 I would say that the biggest piece of fake news was "Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 11, 2019 06:58 PM (ZqRa6)

135 Remember Google search suppressing bad stories about Hilly during 2016?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 11, 2019 06:58 PM (oVJmc)

136 I don't know if you saw the twitter folks on joe rogans podcast recently, but they seemed completely taken aback at the idea that people "on the right" might favor passing regulations or the like on the big tech companies. Tim Pool mentioned it and the Twitter Lawyer Lady was like "ummm, no. I'm in DC a lot, I haven't heard that." then alluded that the left was more likely to be the ones trying to pass regulations.

I mean, I get where Big tech is coming from. They just need push back from the right. And they don't see it for whatever reason.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM



I can understand the Twitter lawyer lady's answer. They almost certainly aren't seeing pushback from the GOP in D.C.

Posted by: Hands at March 11, 2019 06:59 PM (786Ro)

137 134 I would say that the biggest piece of fake news was "Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 11, 2019 06:58 PM (ZqRa6)


I don't know how anybody could say that and keep a straight face. People who think that are True Believers. Scary.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

138 The ironic thing is that when the left wing commie's go after Capitalism and "Big" Companies, the first ones they are going to come for are Google and Amazon.

LMAO

IF ONLY COMRADE STALIN KNEW

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2019 07:00 PM (bim/x)

139 The terrified employee kept quiet, censoring himself. "I obviously didn't say anything and just wanted it to end."

-----

A microcosm of the state of western civilization.

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:01 PM (Rd8+4)

140 I mean, I get where Big tech is coming from. They just need push back from the right. And they don't see it for whatever reason.


Because the Uniparty's noses are buried too deep in the trough.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 07:01 PM (LL1Be)

141 mikeyG: "Check out 'Streisand' on GitHub..."

Will do. Thanks.

Gah, I hate that I have to do all this just to read digital content. It's a brave new world.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at March 11, 2019 07:01 PM (6eEQ+)

142 By the way oppressing people's speech is not just wrong, its a federal felony with a possible death sentence waiting for those who do it.
"If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or
intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession,
or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege
secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or
because of his having so exercised the same..."
I strongly suspect that the powers that be in Google etc. have not the faintest clue that is true. And no, Tru-Cons, they don't get to pull that crap just because they are private businesses, that law doesn't say you have to be in a government agency to violate it.

Posted by: An Observation at March 11, 2019 07:01 PM (SCfQ/)

143 IF ONLY COMRADE STALIN KNEW

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2019 07:00 PM (bim/x)

Bingo!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 07:02 PM (wYseH)

144 In before 27? Because that's how many comments the referenced pjmedia article has.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:02 PM (dzJ3R)

145 @142 true but also irrelevant.

No reasonable prosecutor and all that.

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 07:03 PM (ZfRYq)

146 My son works for Google. I trained him to keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:03 PM (KOCKb)

147 So Google is just The Blue Sun Corporation minus the ethics.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 11, 2019 07:03 PM (WNAuL)

148 Wait until we get Mooch is the most qualified person to run for president

Posted by: Skip at March 11, 2019 07:03 PM (BbGew)

149 Hate speech causes psychological trauma to a member of a marginalized community.

Some communities should be marginalized.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:04 PM (Iv8V1)

150 I would say that the biggest piece of fake news was "Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 11, 2019 06:58 PM (ZqRa6)
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Near about the same time as saying she didn't necessarily know what classified marks looked like.

Posted by: Google at March 11, 2019 07:04 PM (vDqXW)

151 Facebook takes down Elizabeth Warren ads calling for breakup of Facebook

LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2019 07:04 PM (bim/x)

152 to be fair, it sounds like it's because she used facebooks intellectual property (probably their logo) in her ad, which is a big no no.

Thou shalt not use 'Facebook' in a derogatory manner.

Everything else is fine.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:04 PM (dzJ3R)

153 The ironic thing is that when the left wing commie's go after Capitalism and "Big" Companies, the first ones they are going to come for are Google and Amazon.
...

LMAO

IF ONLY COMRADE STALIN KNEW



IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE GOOGLE KNOWS A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT AMERICANS ARE DOING AND SAYING THAN STALIN KNEW ABOUT SOVIET CITIZENS.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISSBERGER at March 11, 2019 07:05 PM (786Ro)

154 If there were dozens of other companies that competed with Goolag, then I could give a shit.

The fact is they control virtually all pathways of information dissemination over the internet.

And that cannot be allowed to continue. And I do NOT want government "regulation" considering who and what our government is.

I want Google dismantled. All of it. Every last nut bolt and washer. We will not miss it one bit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (zBaqJ)


Analysis = True

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2019 07:06 PM (M+Lyo)

155 Google's political officers swing into action. Google is not American.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 11, 2019 07:06 PM (QLvwG)

156 more spygate stuff:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pauchg
not that it matters.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2019 07:07 PM (r+sAi)

157 Remember Google search suppressing bad stories about Hilly during 2016?

Who is this Ben Ghazi, and why would anybody care?

Posted by: Gulag.com at March 11, 2019 07:07 PM (n/eZB)

158
Gah, I hate that I have to do all this just to read digital content. It's a brave new world.


Yeah, right? It's fun to mess with anyway. And you can set it up on your router with open-source firmware and have an always on VPN for your wireless connections.

Back to evil though, to make things even more fun a lot of the "totally non-content producers, totally" are starting to reject encrypted connections. And forcing you to solve cloudflare puzzles in order to prove that you are "not a bot".


For security and shit. Right.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 07:07 PM (LL1Be)

159 This crap isn't just at Gargamel. My HR dept is as SJW infested as the rest. The firm gives time off for "good works". It will surprise no one here that the only outings authorized are left wing causes.

The worst one last year was to support separation and counseling for trans/gay curious minors whose parents didn't support their deviance.

I had to make a stink to the Office of the General Counsel to get that shit pulled.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 11, 2019 07:07 PM (Y4EXg)

160 Don't boll weevil.

Posted by: cotton at March 11, 2019 07:07 PM (786Ro)

161 Google's political officers swing into action. Google is not American.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 11, 2019 07:06 PM (QLvwG)

The Politburo will not be happy

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2019 07:07 PM (M+Lyo)

162 Their last funding round from Softbank valued it at $48B. I'll bet it is closer to $30B once the Street gets it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 06:51 PM (ffYR/)

Heh...just checked. Their current round is claiming a $62B valuation.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 11, 2019 06:54 PM (wYseH)

I love how people (not saying you CBD) theorize that because somebody got some sucker to pay X, company is suddenly worth Y.

Uber hasn't made a dime, and probably never will.

Born every minute, as the saying goes.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:08 PM (q40QC)

163 134 I would say that the biggest piece of fake news was "Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken
____________

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I'M DRUNKER'N COOTER BROWN!

Posted by: Downhome DistHillary at March 11, 2019 07:09 PM (9vQJW)

164 So Google is just The Blue Sun Corporation minus the ethics.

Two by two.

Hands of blue.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 07:09 PM (LL1Be)

165 Google delenda est

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 11, 2019 07:09 PM (PkIg+)

166 Who is this Ben Ghazi, and why would anybody care?

Didn't he play the role of Dr. Kildare?

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:09 PM (KOCKb)

167 ...In Soviet Russia, computer watches you!

In Google America, computer REALLY watches you! and censors you, and ...

Posted by: Yakov Schmirnov at March 11, 2019 07:09 PM (vDqXW)

168 "Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"

I learned everything I needed to know about classified data handling from @Hillary

Posted by: @AOC at March 11, 2019 07:09 PM (n/eZB)

169 more spygate stuff:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pauchg
not that it matters.

*******
Shout
Shout
Let it all out.

Oh wait. Earlier thread.
Never mind.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (0tfLf)

170 Wait until we get Mooch is the most qualified person to run for president
Posted by: Skip

I wonder if she'll even bother with trying some token political office the way Hillary did?

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (Rd8+4)

171 by the way, gotta share this with you, email from Adam Schiff:



The Constitution gives the president the power to grant pardons, and
while that power can be used to correct an injustice or give a second
chance, there are disturbing indications that President Trump could use
it to obstruct investigations involving him and his family.


With so many of his close associates facing jail time, including his
former campaign manager Paul Manafort who was sentenced yesterday,
there's a real risk the President could try to protect himself by
issuing or promising pardons.


That's why I just introduced the Abuse of the Pardon Prevention Act,
legislation to prevent this president or any other, from abusing the
pardon for their own personal benefit or to obstruct justice. My bill
would ensure that if the president issued a pardon in a case involving
him or his family, the evidence gathered would be turned over to
Congress, meaning a coverup would't succeed.


he's an idiot, ain't he?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (ZqRa6)

172 >>"Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"


She only needs 1 shoe!

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (cLljn)

173 OT: I just read a "CNN Business" article about how US airlines should pull their 737 MAX's from service temporarily. It included this "If those 65 jets are grounded, it wouldn't cause major disruptions for the US airlines, because they maintain huge fleets of other planes."

Without any supporting evidence or anything.

Somehow I don't think that Southwest, for example, has an extra 35 737's just sitting around, parked in a desert somewhere, ready to jump in to service.

I also think they planned their purchases to coincide with when their older 737's were coming up on their incredibly expensive d maintenance, and instead of spending the millions to rebuild the plans (as the law would require), they're going to fly them off to plane heaven and have them scrapped.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (GBteo)

174 @162 something is worth whatever someone will pay for it.

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (ZfRYq)

175 I had to make a stink to the Office of the General Counsel to get that shit pulled.
Posted by: Tonypete


So, any luck with the job search?

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:11 PM (n/eZB)

176 Have you heard about the new "rock group" that toured SXSW?

They are called "The Intifada's"

The lead singer AOC is backed up by the ULULULUL twins Omar and Tlaib.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 11, 2019 07:11 PM (E9L6N)

177 he's an idiot, ain't he?


He's a puppet.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 11, 2019 07:11 PM (WNAuL)

178 >>That's why I just introduced the Abuse of the Pardon Prevention Act, legislation to prevent this president or any other, from abusing the pardon for their own personal benefit or to obstruct justice. My bill would ensure that if the president issued a pardon in a case involving him or his family, the evidence gathered would be turned over to Congress, meaning a coverup would't succeed.


Just in the nic of time, too.

Posted by: Marc Rich at March 11, 2019 07:11 PM (cLljn)

179 Hate speech causes psychological trauma to a member of a marginalized community.

Some communities should be marginalized.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

----

You sound like you're not exactly onboard with drag queens reading gay-themed stories to kindergartners.

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (Rd8+4)

180 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (Zz0t1)

181 LOL. All of her experiences were failures. There were no real accomplishments.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (KOCKb)

182 What are the Horde's thoughts on Avast? I use their free AV software, and recently bought the VPN add-on.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (Iv8V1)

183 >>"Hillary is the most qualified person ever run for president"

Her qualification is staggering!

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (Rd8+4)

184 Part of the problem with accounts of misbehavior at the tech giants is that it's very difficult to provide a level of specificity that gets people to understand the severity of the threat without managing to dox yourself in the process.

We'd be hearing a lot more if it weren't for that. And we probably will hear more, as the moonbats really go to town with various industry pogroms.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at March 11, 2019 07:13 PM (eAshZ)

185 "If those 65 jets are grounded, it wouldn't cause major disruptions for the US airlines, because they maintain huge fleets of other planes."

Yes, that's what businesses do, buy extra airplanes that they don't need.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:13 PM (n/eZB)

186 You sound like you're not exactly onboard with drag queens reading gay-themed stories to kindergartners.
Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (Rd8+4)


Please don't denounce me!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:13 PM (Iv8V1)

187 It is evil. Kill it with fire.

Where's AllenG?

Burn it.
Salt it.

PROFIT!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 11, 2019 07:13 PM (Zz0t1)

188 LOL All my managers were Americans. We NEVER discussed politics.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:14 PM (KOCKb)

189 legislation to prevent this president or any other, from abusing the pardon for their own personal benefit or to obstruct justice.

Retroactive to when? I'm only asking because I pay attention.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:14 PM (n/eZB)

190 @162 something is worth whatever someone will pay for it.
Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (ZfRYq)

Paying $10 million for 10 percent of a company doesn't make the company suddenly worth $100 million. I don't care what the excuse is.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:14 PM (q40QC)

191 That's why I just introduced the Abuse of the Pardon Prevention Act,


What we really need is an abuse of stupidity act for congress.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2019 07:14 PM (0tfLf)

192 Deplorable Jay G, I have used webroot for ever and have never had the first problem.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 11, 2019 07:14 PM (E9L6N)

193 Yes, that's what businesses do, buy extra airplanes that they don't need.
Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:13 PM (n/eZB)

It just seemed like such a stupid thing to say (without any supporting evidence) in a "business" article.

If I were a southwest shareholder, and I learned that Southwest had hundreds of millions of dollars tied up in planes that were just hanging out just in case they were needed, I'd be a little pissed.

Also, Southwest only flies 737's, so they'd be pulling their newer, more fuel efficient MAX's and replacing them with -700s, assuming they had 35 -700's just hanging around not being used, which I... have a really hard time believing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:14 PM (GBteo)

194 I dunno. That's two catastrophic crashes involving 737 MAXes that apparently involved erratic behavior in flight. I don't think I would feel comfortable flying in one until they get to the bottom of it.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

195 What are the Horde's thoughts on Avast? I use their free AV software, and recently bought the VPN add-on.



Ummmm

Me Hearties!!!??

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (0tfLf)

196 Please don't use the term "hate speech" because that's the left's term (along with protected speech). No such thing as hate speech.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (zmIJL)

197 >>That's why I just introduced the Abuse of the Pardon Prevention Act


Because, that's how you change the Constitution.

How do they find these retards?

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (cLljn)

198 I want Google dismantled. All of it. Every last nut bolt and washer. We will not miss it one bit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 11, 2019 06:46 PM (zBaqJ)


I don't think you can do the job by dismantling it. I think that there are a few remedies though.

(1) Force them to send email with all collected data on each individual once a year. Also force them to gain approval before selling any data. That is, even data they created, if it is connected to a name or a group below a certain size then they may "own" it, but it is no different than taking a photo of a model for sale - they need a release. This will send some profit to the individual and create avenues for competition.

(2) make them, and all the big techs publish all filtering, feed, etc. algorithms. So the way they calculate what to show on search, or what products to show, or what news, etc. EVERYTHING. make it all transparent. They will have to really simplify things, and there is still plenty of room for profit since they will still own the technology, data centers, data bases, etc. but how they decide how to use that information will be public. Auditable by anyone.

(3) make all their interfaces public and open to competition. Similar to what Judge Greene did for AT&T by giving competitors access to their long distance and the ability to sell hardware to the customers. Build Chinese walls so that one group (say maps) does not have special data that they only provide to another group (say android) limiting the ability of outside competitors to use it.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 11, 2019 07:17 PM (LWu6U)

199 Michael Crichton wrote a good book "Airframe." It turned out to be pilot error.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:17 PM (KOCKb)

200 LOL. All of her experiences were failures. There were no real accomplishments.
Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (KOCKb)

The scum try to pass off a job title as an accomplishment.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:17 PM (q40QC)

201 How do they find these retards?
Posted by: garrett

With AOC it was with auditions.

They actually admit this.

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:17 PM (Rd8+4)

202 How do they find these retards?
Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (cLljn)



What???
You think AOC was the first "curtain call" for a candidate?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2019 07:18 PM (0tfLf)

203 >>That's two catastrophic crashes involving 737 MAXes that apparently involved erratic behavior in flight. I don't think I would feel comfortable flying in one until they get to the bottom of it.


Flying requires a willing suspension of disbelief.

One should never trust an airplane.

I reserve Trust for things like Gravity.

Gravity. It will never let you down.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2019 07:18 PM (cLljn)

204 Michael Crichton wrote a good book "Airframe." It turned out to be pilot error.

Posted by: JAS

----

Well, thanks a lot!

...BTW: Rosebud is a sled.

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:18 PM (Rd8+4)

205 I expect every email I send to be thoroughly examined by an AI computer. Maybe developed by my son.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:18 PM (KOCKb)

206 he's an idiot, ain't he?



Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (ZqRa6)

Yes, yes he is. He forgot to pass the Abuse of Veto Prevention Act first.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Two Conniptions and Get a Free Fitting at The Outrage Outlet! at March 11, 2019 07:19 PM (0QYMt)

207 194 I dunno. That's two catastrophic crashes involving 737 MAXes that apparently involved erratic behavior in flight. I don't think I would feel comfortable flying in one until they get to the bottom of it.
Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

I mean... it is a bit odd, don't get me wrong.

But it seemed like the first crash was pilot / maintenance error (the sensors were dirty, plane thought it was about to stall, so it dove, and pilots were unaware of how to use the emergency override. Might not be the best design to have a plane that could accidentally automatically design turn take off, but...)

And this one? Who knows?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:19 PM (GBteo)

208 design turn = dive during*

I don't know where my head was at with that one, ha.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:20 PM (GBteo)

209 182 What are the Horde's thoughts on Avast? I use their free AV software, and recently bought the VPN add-on.

Thoughts?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (Iv8V1)


I've been thinking about trying the Avast VPN. I paid for their AV upgrade after using the free version for years. the cost for the three year package is the same (roughly) as that for the NORD VPN (which seems to be highly recommended).

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 11, 2019 07:20 PM (mhs6e)

210 Agreed. I uninstalled Google on all my computers, and would literally enjoy any other browser. Well, maybe not the dicks at Firefox, but most others.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2019 06:47 PM (bkUtD)

Brave browser is pretty good. Came with Goolag installed as the default search engine, but I never used it that way. Put a bookmark to Duckduckgo on the toolbar, and used that. Just now changed the default search engine to that, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 11, 2019 07:21 PM (nPGq2)

211 >>"That's why I just introduced the It's Only Constitutional if Democrats Say So Act of 2019"

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2019 07:21 PM (cLljn)

212 So, any luck with the job search?

Posted by: t-bird
----
t-bird, I quit looking. I am so short right now I can sit on a dime and dangle my legs over the edge. I have a sea mommy looking out for me in corporate HR. Long time friend (and witness to some serious dirt she was involved in 20 years ago) I asked her, and she agreed to work on getting me canned. I want that. It would be early as I'm not 65.

Not an issue though as they will have to pay out 1/2 years salary and financially, I can go any time. So, I'm just walking around carrying a clip board and skating until it happens. My direct supervisor has gotten the word to leave me alone but has no idea why. It's comical really. He just shakes his head and mutters to himself.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 11, 2019 07:21 PM (Y4EXg)

213 After one of the KAL crashes, they (KAL) brought in some Yankees to train their Co-pilots to SPEAK UP when something is wrong.

There was cultural issue. They seem to have fixed it.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:22 PM (KOCKb)

214 I can't see where a system that automatically provides for a plane to nosedive, especially right after takeoff, is a good thing.

I don't fly anymore anyways because of the TSA scum.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:22 PM (KCnu6)

215 "pilots were unaware of how to use the emergency override
...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:19 PM (GBteo)"


Off hand, that doesn't really seem like a Boeing problem!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 11, 2019 07:22 PM (mhs6e)

216 Flying requires a willing suspension of disbelief.

One should never trust an airplane.

I reserve Trust for things like Gravity.

Gravity. It will never let you down.
Posted by: garrett

----

My take on it is: Flying is a stunt.

If you sit on a bucket that's over a load of explosive gas and light the fuse, it will launch you in the air and everyone will say, "That guy's a nut for doing that stunt!"

But no matter how much you add in the way of comfy seats, champagne, movies and headsets, it's still a stunt.

Even if you have to get to Denver for a business conference, and you're being responsible and grown up... it's still a stunt.

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:23 PM (Rd8+4)

217 LOL. All of her experiences were failures. There were no real accomplishments.
Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:12 PM (KOCKb)


Something to be said for consistency.

I loved when asked what her accomplishments were, replied that while SecState she'd flown a million miles.

Maybe we need an airline pilot for President then?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:23 PM (Iv8V1)

218
Who is this Ben Ghazi, and why would anybody care?
Posted by: Gulag.com


He starred in a TV show called Run For Your Life.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2019 07:23 PM (aKsyK)

219 Harry Paratestes


still reading what you wrote, but airline do keep planes in reserve. It is like any capital equipment with maintenance schedules and variable demand. They have enough backup so that the marginal cost of the extra equipment is no greater than the potential profit of having it for peak demands and as needed.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (LWu6U)

220 With this recent African crash, I saw an article in the WSJ with a graph showing it climbing and diving in a bizarre manner before they lost contact.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

221 "pilots were unaware of how to use the emergency override
...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:19 PM (GBteo)"


Awesome pilot training.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (Iv8V1)

222 Who is this Ben Ghazi, and why would anybody care?
Posted by: Gulag.com

---

He's the guy made of orange rocks in The Fantastic Four.

Posted by: RKae at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (Rd8+4)

223 How do they find these retards?
Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (cLljn)


Some are born into it....

Jeb! 2020....This Time He's Serious, Seriously Retarded.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2019 07:25 PM (Z+IKu)

224 Who is this Ben Ghazi, and why would anybody care?
Posted by: Gulag.com

He starred in a TV show called Run For Your Life.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2019 07:23 PM (aKsyK)

I thought it was Roots?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:25 PM (KCnu6)

225 Re: VPN shopping
Make sure that you check the companies logging policies and the location of their headquarters offices as well as servers.

They should be able to answer the question "what will you turn over if subpoenaed by a government entity?"
If the answer is " we keep no logs therefore we have nothing to give them", you are on the right track.

Posted by: mikeyG at March 11, 2019 07:25 PM (LL1Be)

226
After one of the KAL crashes, they (KAL) brought in some Yankees to train their Co-pilots to SPEAK UP when something is wrong.

There was cultural issue. They seem to have fixed it.
Posted by: JAS


Wouldn't want them to lose face.

Or any other part of their body.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2019 07:25 PM (aKsyK)

227 214 I can't see where a system that automatically provides for a plane to nosedive, especially right after takeoff, is a good thing.

I don't fly anymore anyways because of the TSA scum.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:22 PM (KCnu6)

There have been a number of high profile plane crashes where the dummy pilots let the plane stall. Remember that Continental turbojet crash a few years back in NY where the plane started to stall and the idiot pilot tried to pull the nose up and didn't push the throttle to full? Yeah. I think Boeing is trying to develop a system that saves dummy pilots from themselves.

But yeah, may be a realllly shitty implementation, only time will tell.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (GBteo)

228 @142 true but also irrelevant.



No reasonable prosecutor and all that.


Remember, there is an IG investigation on why that law isn't being enforced. When I wrote the complaint, I didn't give the IG any wiggle room to weasel their way out of actually citing the U.S. attorneys for failing to enforce that law - as their oaths of office require. I accounted for all their possible excuses and showed why they weren't good enough.

Posted by: An Observation at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (SCfQ/)

229 pilots were unaware of how to use the emergency override
...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:19 PM (GBteo)"

Awesome pilot training.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (Iv8V1)

The co pilot on the Ehtiopian Plane had only 200 hours

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (bim/x)

230 "pilots were unaware of how to use the emergency override
...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:19 PM (GBteo)"


Off hand, that doesn't really seem like a Boeing problem!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 11, 2019 07:22 PM (mhs6e)

-----------------------------

Except for the fact that Boeing did not include instructions on how to override the sensor's taking over the elevator in their documentation, sure.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (ffYR/)

231 Gravity. It will never let you down.
Posted by: garrett

~~~~~

Gravity?

There is no gravity. The earth just sucks.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (NtglE)

232 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 11, 2019 07:21 PM (nPGq2)
I've been using Epic and Brave. The latest Brave upgrade default format stinks as far as I am concerned, but I was able to revert to the older version (probably not a good idea).

Epic has a pretty flexible built-in VPN, which has gotten me temporarily banned here FWIW.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 11, 2019 07:27 PM (asM0l)

233 213 After one of the KAL crashes, they (KAL) brought in some Yankees to train their Co-pilots to SPEAK UP when something is wrong.

There was cultural issue. They seem to have fixed it.
Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:22 PM (KOCKb)


I remember that. It was a big cultural no-no for a co-pilot to question the pilot's commands. So they kept their mouths shut even when they knew that this idiot is going to get us all killed.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:27 PM (sdi6R)

234 still reading what you wrote, but airline do keep planes in reserve. It is like any capital equipment with maintenance schedules and variable demand. They have enough backup so that the marginal cost of the extra equipment is no greater than the potential profit of having it for peak demands and as needed.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (LWu6U)

Sure. They have to plan for peak demand, they have to plan for scheduled maintenance, and, erm, unscheduled maintenance, etc.

But I would be surprised if Southwest has 35+ flight-ready 737's hanging around ready to jump in if they ground their entire MAX fleet.

Maybe they do -- but the CNN article certainly didn't explain itself or why I would assume that they would.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:28 PM (GBteo)

235 Have you heard about the new "rock group" that toured SXSW?



They are called "The Intifada's"



The lead singer AOC is backed up by the ULULULUL twins Omar and Tlaib.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 11, 2019 07:11 PM (E9L6N)

Here's a slice of their beat song, "Pour Some Google On Me"
Take the bottle, shake it up
Break the bubble, break it up,
Pour some Google on me
Ooh, in the name of love
Pour some Google on me
C'mon, Fire me up

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 11, 2019 07:28 PM (QLvwG)

236 About 15 years ago the 737 passed the DC-3 as the safest airplane ever built.
That said I would fly in any 737 at any time if flown by any Western crew. Beyond that, ya kinda roll the dice.

Boeing works hard at crew training but if 3rd World Shithole Airlines wants to skip that part...that's their choice.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2019 07:28 PM (0tfLf)

237 Except for the fact that Boeing did not include instructions on how to override the sensor's taking over the elevator in their documentation, sure.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (ffYR/)


Generally not a fan of lawsuits, but...

that's insane

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 11, 2019 07:28 PM (asM0l)

238 nood Elizabeth Warren on Facebook

Posted by: Hands at March 11, 2019 07:29 PM (786Ro)

239 Even if you have to get to Denver for a business conference, and you're being responsible and grown up... it's still a stunt.

So is walking on two legs.
Signed, All the four legged predators who think you're tasty.

Posted by: An Observation at March 11, 2019 07:29 PM (SCfQ/)

240 Remember that Continental turbojet crash a few years back in NY where the plane started to stall and the idiot pilot tried to pull the nose up and didn't push the throttle to full? Yeah. I think Boeing is trying to develop a system that saves dummy pilots from themselves.

But yeah, may be a realllly shitty implementation, only time will tell.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (GBteo)

But how often have pilots done that?

And we have two crashes already of this plane and system within 6 months.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:29 PM (KCnu6)

241 220 With this recent African crash, I saw an article in the WSJ with a graph showing it climbing and diving in a bizarre manner before they lost contact.
Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:24 PM (sdi6R)

Yeah, it does seem to be very odd.

And two basically brand new 737's crashing in such short of a time frame? It seems... unlikely.

On the flip side, the 737 is one of the most popular commercial airliners in the world... and I mean, unlikely things do happen. I think we'll have to wait and see.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:30 PM (GBteo)

242 I can save the day!

Posted by: Otto Pilot at March 11, 2019 07:30 PM (QLvwG)

243 But how often have pilots done that?

And we have two crashes already of this plane and system within 6 months.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 11, 2019 07:29 PM (KCnu6)

In the history of flying? I don't know.

I mean, it happens.

But plane crashes overall are pretty rare, it's certainly not something that happens with regularity.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:31 PM (GBteo)

244 Except for the fact that Boeing did not include instructions on how to override the sensor's taking over the elevator in their documentation, sure.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 11, 2019 07:26 PM (ffYR/)

I think Boeing disputes that and says it's in the manual.

But idk for sure.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 11, 2019 07:32 PM (GBteo)

245 Off hand, that doesn't really seem like a Boeing problem!

Maybe in their training. I note that Southwest has the most, the fly the crap out of them, they speak English natively, and I bet they take things a little more seriously.

So, maybe say things twice in overseas classes.

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2019 07:32 PM (asM0l)

246 I want to hear a new group call themselves "The Infidels."

Bash everybody. A non-denominational bash-fest. Go after Anti-pope Frankie, the Antifa, the Justice Democrats, the gay Methodists, etc. Shit . the list is too long.

Posted by: JAS at March 11, 2019 07:32 PM (KOCKb)

247 What are the Horde's thoughts on Avast? I use their free AV software, and recently bought the VPN add-on.

Thoughts?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Speaking only to Anti-virus:

I've used both Avast and Avira and others off and on for 20 years.

If you have Windows 7, 8, or 10, they don't do much above and beyond Windows Defender.

They got their shit together and really have made a product that's integrated with Windoze.

I used to use this site quarterly to check on the quality of AVs :

www.av-comparatives.org

Note: they have been an independent source for a while but since they now test chinese and Russian (Kaspersky) AV, I can't help but hold their reviews at a distance now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 11, 2019 07:33 PM (Hk+Y0)

248 162 something is worth whatever someone will pay for it.
Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2019 07:10 PM (ZfRYq)

------

Sure... at that moment.

The problem is this is isn't rational. This bubble is being inflated by credulous VCs hurling Benjamins at Millennial con artists like drunken frat boys at a strip club.

IOW, this whole thing is fuelled by a relatively small number of money men who all watch each other. As soon as one or two of them gets hosed badly by these whale startups, they'll all sober up and start acting rationally.

Then, it's ovah... a lot of these firms' valuations will violently contract, and many will simply flame out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 11, 2019 07:33 PM (xwAnB)

249 I dunno. That's two catastrophic crashes involving 737 MAXes that apparently involved erratic behavior in flight. I don't think I would feel comfortable flying in one until they get to the bottom of it.
Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2019 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

Maybe the pilots' hijabs slipped down over their eyes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 11, 2019 07:35 PM (nPGq2)

250 Harry,

Yeah, 35 is a lot. No way they have that many.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 11, 2019 07:35 PM (LWu6U)

251 Boeing works hard at crew training but if 3rd World Shithole Airlines wants to skip that part...that's their choice.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2019 07:28 PM (0tfLf)

But Al Sharpton said the Africans have been flying for over 4,000 years or some such.

You'd think they would have this all worked out by now.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2019 07:36 PM (Z+IKu)

252 But how often have pilots done that?

Pretty sure that was how the air france one when down in the atlantic as well.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 11, 2019 07:37 PM (LWu6U)

253 I use Private Internet Access, they don't keep logs and if a Government requires it they shut down that server and move it to another country.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at March 11, 2019 07:59 PM (dKiJG)

254 >>>Who is this Ben Ghazi, and why would anybody care?<<<

He was the antagonist in Road House with a hard-on for the Double Deuce.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2019 08:10 PM (wxZSX)

255 223 The FEC has some pretty strict rules on what can and cannot be done by networks in regards to candidates. Shouldn't Google and Facebook and YouTube all fall under those same conditions?

They want to be protected as a private Corp while acting as a network.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Over public airways vs. wires.
(although one could make the case for WIFI)

Posted by: Some rat in the Swamp at March 11, 2019 08:20 PM (LOq4H)

256 The only TRUE Conservative thing to do is pray to the God of The Free Market to fix everything. Anything else smacks of Communism and / or Putin Puppetry.

Posted by: TRUE Conservative at March 11, 2019 08:22 PM (BvNzB)

257 Democratic fundraising numbers will look a LOT better once they finally start reporting all the in-kind contributions from Google and Facebook censors.

Posted by: GWB at March 11, 2019 08:30 PM (pay+s)

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