Chase Bank Now Routinely Closing the Personal Bank Accounts of Conservatives

#MuhPersonalBusinessDecisions, the Corporate "Cons" lisped.

John Hawkins has had enough:

[I]ncreasingly monopolistic social media companies that have an inordinate amount of control over who gets heard and who doesn't have started actively targeting conservatives and we just shrug or spout platitudes.
"If you don't like the way they do it, take on those monopolies with hundreds of millions of users and billions in cash by building your own company."
So, what happens when banks and credit card companies target people for their political views? Do we need to build our own banks, too?
Activist Laura Loomer, who has already been banned by PayPal, claims she had her account suspended by Chase Bank.
Enrique Tarrio, the black leader of the Proud Boys, a group that has laughably been branded a white supremacist organization by liberals, was also suspended by Chase. So was Martina Markota. And Joe Biggs, who made enough of a stink that Chase reluctantly gave him his account back.

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Certainly, there are an awful lot of liberals who would love to see us enter a world [in which banks demanded proof of political correctness before providing services]. In fact, there was a column in the New York Times last year calling for weaponizing the financial industry in exactly this way to shut down the gun industry as part of an effort to deny Americans their Second Amendment rights.
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Republicans in the Senate should demand that Chase executives come before them and answer some hard questions about targeting customers for their political views. Maybe we need to rewrite banking regulations to make sure this kind of discrimination can't occur....
You may have heard someone say, "the Constitution is not a suicide pact." I would add to that "capitalism is not a suicide pact." Breaking up monopolies is a conservative idea with a long track record.

Part of the problem is that the left has made it its top priority to infiltrate/pressure corporations to advance the left's goals -- including the goal, now, of complete censorship and discrimination against conservatives -- while Corporate Cucks declare that any pressure exerted by the right to merely not act as the left's censorship police is an unconscionable assault on the cherished principle of Corporate Autonomy.

These idiots, and frankly, these bribe-taking grifters, do not realize that there is no "corporate autonomy;" the left has created shareholder lobbying groups to push corporations into acting as the catspaws of the hard, Maoist left. The right's refusal to engage on this battlefield does not result in corporations having full autonomy to pursue their own self-directed business interests; the right's refusal to engage on this battlefield merely cedes the battle to the left, and permits corporations to be pressured and hijacked by the left.

Just because you're not interested in the culture war, doesn't mean the culture war isn't interested in you -- and that applies even more strongly to corporations than to to people, because corporations are how the left achieves policy objectives it cannot achieve through electoral political victories.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:58 PM

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1 Enough!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 25, 2019 12:59 PM (ffYR/)

2 The Left will fight, and fight dirty.

Posted by: Caliban at February 25, 2019 12:59 PM (qEujL)

3 first?

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at February 25, 2019 01:00 PM (1bVhN)

4 Someone should sue. What they are doing is illegal. What grounds are they suspending the accounts on?

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2019 01:01 PM (mpXpK)

5 Didn't we already have this fight with lunch counters and what not?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 25, 2019 01:01 PM (koNhm)

6 Mark of the Beast - no one will be allowed to buy or trade without it.

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 01:01 PM (7HtZB)

7 You cannot by or sell without their mark or something...something...

Posted by: Diogenes at February 25, 2019 01:02 PM (0tfLf)

8 Corporations and the Judiciary.

Posted by: BignJames at February 25, 2019 01:02 PM (ykq7q)

9 My local gun range here in Red-State GA got dropped by Chase last fall- zero explanation, and they have a great BBB and credit ratings. The 3 local banks in town got into a bidding war because they all wanted and needed the positive PR and the business.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at February 25, 2019 01:03 PM (1bVhN)

10 Corporations are increasingly run by left wingers,particularly left wing women.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2019 01:03 PM (BXMxN)

11 Coercion! It's What's For Dinner!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:03 PM (+y/Ru)

12 So Corporations don't have to bake you a cake? WTF?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:03 PM (2LelM)

13 >>So, what happens when banks and credit card companies target people for their political views? Do we need to build our own banks, too?

Yes.

Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (Bdeb0)

14 Fuck chase. I have nothing to do with them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec still banned at rgICo at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (Pr4ah)

15 These parents who brought their kids into Feinstein's Office need a healthy Hickory Shampoo and a Pepper Spray Rinse.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (cU/kZ)

16 The left isn't afraid to squeeze and see if there is any give in the thing being squeezed.
We have been weighed, measured, and found lacking.

So, we get squeezed.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (z79tQ)

17 Mark of the Beast - no one will be allowed to buy or trade without it.

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 01:01 PM (7HtZB)

Bingo.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (9Om/r)

18 Perhaps big tech and banks can come up with a way to ensure only the proper customers can transact in modern society.

Maybe some sort of mark on the forehead or hand.....

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (YslsA)

19 2 The Left will fight, and fight dirty.
Posted by: Caliban at February 25, 2019 12:59 PM (qEujL)

They fight to win, and they fight to KILL.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (UnA8+)

20 I'd like to see Trump II become the trustbuster who puts Teddy Roosevelt to shame.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (hjaPQ)

21 My local gun range here in Red-State GA got dropped by Chase last fall- zero explanation, and they have a great BBB and credit ratings. The 3 local banks in town got into a bidding war because they all wanted and needed the positive PR and the business.

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Operation Choke Point.

The Obama Administration even had a name for it. Cut off funding for firearms related companies.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (8XRCm)

22 Cubans appear to have overwhelmingly ratified a new constitution that enshrines the one-party socialist system as irrevocable

And THAT is where the left in America wants to go also. Just like Chase is trying to silence the middle and right

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (bim/x)

23 And alas, the capitalists are EAGER to sell them the rope with which they'll hang us.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

24 22 And THAT is where the left in America wants to go also. Just like Chase is trying to silence the middle and right
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM (bim/x)

And if nobody will stop them, why shouldn't they?

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:06 PM (UnA8+)

25 The Left will fight, and fight dirty.
Posted by: Caliban at February 25, 2019 12:59 PM (qEujL)

Give the left credit...they play to win

"WE" on the other hand? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:06 PM (bim/x)

26 From Revelation 13:17-so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Posted by: Ace fan at February 25, 2019 01:06 PM (wOBOx)

27 Galt's Gulch will have big, luxurious banks.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 25, 2019 01:06 PM (+mfcd)

28 So, what happens when banks and credit card companies target people for their political views? Do we need to build our own banks, too?

Yes.
Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (Bdeb0)

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Sounds like irreconcilable differences to me.

So a National Split is in order. The only remaining question is will it be amicable.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (8XRCm)

29 Basically we are seeing the same thing that happened in academia and cultural entertainment being extended to every facet and institution.

Leftist infiltrate, conservatives put up a half assed response before abandoning the field, leftist come to dominate and seek new conquests, rinse, repeat.

Oh I hear their are now 11 Republicans that will back the Democrats nuking of the Presidents emergency proclamation.

Which perfectly illustrates the dimensions of the problems we face.

Posted by: John The Savage at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (lIH2E)

30 As you say, Ace, breaking monopolies is not a real problem, and we ought to. Now, most of these companies aren't actually monopolies, but they are definitely a cartel and so very similar rules apply to them.

The problem with the "if you don't like it, go build your own" idea is that the organizations you'd be fighting against won't allow it.

Don't like YouTube? Okay - go build a new one (BitChute). Now we'll just demonetize you by freezing you out of the payments system.

Don't like Twitter? Okay. go build a new one (Gab). Now we'll just deplatform you and kick you out of hosting unless you bed to our will.

Don't like central control of distribute patronage like Patreon? Okay. Go build a new one (pending). Watch for the credit-card play to be made again.

We can go on and on and on with this. The traditional answer of "go build your own if you don't like it" doesn't work when the major technology and finance players openly collude in restraint of trade against competitors. This is bad on its own, but is made worse by its ideological basis.

They should all be broken up. The companies that aren't outright monopolies are operating as a cartel and they should be destroyed.

Yes, the Internet will change and be harder to use. Some services will vanish. Many things that are "free" now will be charged for. Many banks will fail. The stock market will fall. Interest rates will rise. This will not be a consequence-free course of action.

It will nonetheless be worth it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (I2dne)

31 I agree with John Hawkins, but what would also be nice if some effing GOP in the Senate or House banking committee would call Chase in.
Anybody have a Chase account or card should move to another, preferably smaller local bank and let Chase no why. It is not always possible, I do understand.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (r+sAi)

32 No credit card balance then? Cool

Posted by: Pegg696 at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (FIB2O)

33 ~~Mark~~ Barack of the Beast - no one will be allowed to buy or trade without it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (+y/Ru)

34 I'm sure Mitch The B__h will get right on it. Damn, I F'n hate that stain.

Posted by: WVinMN at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (02CFW)

35 The Left will fight, and fight dirty.
Posted by: Caliban at February 25, 2019 12:59 PM (qEujL)

Yes, but until they can gain power, they do everything in a sneaky, subversive way. They never will meet on the open field. Until they have massive superiority in either material or numbers. They are bullies, not soldiers or warriors.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (3sjI6)

36 Well, virual signalling is a mark.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at February 25, 2019 01:07 PM (kboRE)

37 *Pulls Out Black Platinum Card*

I got this.

Posted by: Santos L. Halper at February 25, 2019 01:08 PM (cU/kZ)

38 Corporations are increasingly run by left wingers,particularly left wing women.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2019 01:03 PM (BXMxN)

Corporations are increasingly run by foreign nationals who come from cultures with no understanding of individual liberty, free speech, etc. That they also tend to run progressive is part of their having been picked for their "diversity" quotient instead of their actual abilities.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 25, 2019 01:08 PM (uquGJ)

39 no means know.

Man the internet has ravaged my english.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2019 01:08 PM (r+sAi)

40 38 That too.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2019 01:08 PM (BXMxN)

41 Might be a great time to remove the Federal Reserve and all its gold from NYC. Let them know its cuz its American gold and American Fed not NYCs. Let's see them be the worlds financial center with no gold to back it. Fucktards.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:08 PM (2LelM)

42 And if nobody will stop them, why shouldn't they?
Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:06 PM (UnA8+)

It's a pretty easy cost and risk calculation for the corporations. On the one hand is pressure from outside the corp (and in most cases from fellow travelers within it too) to act in a certain way. On the other hand is nothing. Just. Nothing.

Guess how it works out.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (z79tQ)

43 Listening to this - if I was Feinstein I would be punching children.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (cU/kZ)

44 38 Corporations are increasingly run by left wingers,particularly left wing women.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2019 01:03 PM (BXMxN)

Corporations are increasingly run by foreign nationals who come from cultures with no understanding of individual liberty, free speech, etc. That they also tend to run progressive is part of their having been picked for their "diversity" quotient instead of their actual abilities.
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So you're saying they are all graduates from NYU?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (2LelM)

45 "Might be a great time to remove the Federal Reserve..."

You could stopped there.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (w7KSn)

46 Another thing to keep in mind, re: NYT and WaPo, is that over the years those two papers have become the preferred sieves through which the IC executes its leak campaigns.

Being an appendage of the organs of State Security means they will not be subject to substantial harm, for any reason.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (AzW6q)

47 Galt's Gulch will have big, luxurious banks.
Posted by: Joe Mama at February 25, 2019 01:06 PM (+mfcd)

The better to nuke them from orbit.--Space Force. Built by Trump. Commandeered by the fags.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 25, 2019 01:10 PM (3sjI6)

48 Let's see them be the worlds financial center with no gold to back it.

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We did away with gold backed currency in 1971.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:10 PM (8XRCm)

49 Corporations are increasingly run by foreign nationals who come from cultures with no understanding of individual liberty, free speech, etc. That they also tend to run progressive is part of their having been picked for their "diversity" quotient instead of their actual abilities.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 25, 2019 01:08 PM (uquGJ)

See, e.g., the wog who used to run Pepsi. /spit

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:10 PM (gHApq)

50 Wow - I got the Official Bulwark Hash, today!

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:10 PM (cU/kZ)

51 Another thing to keep in mind, re: NYT and WaPo, is that over the years those two papers have become the preferred sieves through which the IC executes its leak campaigns.

Being an appendage of the organs of State Security means they will not be subject to substantial harm, for any reason.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (AzW6q)
++++++++++
Yes. NYT is Pravda and works for the Party. WaPo is Ivestya and works for the IC.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (I2dne)

52 The sign of Eth is rising in the air.

Posted by: By-Tor does not care for pudd'n at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (cYOZr)

53 At this point in the cold civil war, it's time to fight back. Chase wants to have political purity tests or it freezes accounts (aka, steals your money)? Fine. Time to break the sumbitch up. Destroy any company that is punishing citizens for their political beliefs using whatever means available.

Posted by: MacGruber at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (S+el1)

54 Wow - I got the Official Bulwark Hash, today!
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:10 PM (cU/kZ)

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CUCKZ !!!!

roflmaapip

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (8XRCm)

55 Operation Choke Point.

The Obama Administration even had a name for it. Cut off funding for firearms related companies.

But they don't want to take away your guns...

/s

Posted by: Blanco at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (QGdDN)

56 I do my business with Frost Bank. A Texas born bank started by Confederate Colonel Frost in 1868. Never closed during the stock market crash and has not accepted any assistance from the Feds.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (2DOZq)

57 We've Chase accounts and I just told them via their account portal "contact us" arrangement, that if I hear more of this suspending or closing accounts because of politics, we will quit them immediately.

Posted by: Jussie Smollett at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (+fPHo)

58 So you're saying they are all graduates from NYU?
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (2LelM)

NYU? Yuck. How pleabian.--Ivy League alumni of the swamp.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (3sjI6)

59 While we're at it, can we take down cable bundling?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (2LelM)

60 A regulated industry like this would be simple to put in their place with a little action at the federal level.

Resolve at the Federal level is the question..

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 25, 2019 01:12 PM (oVJmc)

61
58 So you're saying they are all graduates from NYU?
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:09 PM (2LelM)

NYU? Yuck. How pleabian.--Ivy League alumni of the swamp.
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True, but the zeitgeist they swim in was invented in NYU.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:12 PM (2LelM)

62 Cubans appear to have overwhelmingly ratified a new constitution that enshrines the one-party socialist system as irrevocable

Irrevocable.

Heh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:12 PM (gHApq)

63 This goes back to Mollie Hemingway's husband's article. When corporations take control via their political stance. It's scary. It's getting worse.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2019 01:12 PM (OKeCc)

64 While we're at it, can we take down cable bundling?
Posted by: Puddin Head

Hey, what do have against us?

Posted by: Zip Ties at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (+mfcd)

65 Can't wait to see my Chase Rewards Triple Commie bonus.

Posted by: Kamchatka Harris at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (vtcmf)

66 I apologize if I keep repeating myself, but this was all to come under President Hillary.

Only along with guns, the excuse was going to be (if you can believe it) that disagreement with the president is dangerous and "terroristic". I mean come on, she's united an entire country except a hundred million or so Deplorables. They pose a "threat" similar to the one faced by Lincoln.

If you don't believe me, I feel sorry for you.

Posted by: ... at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (COsdI)

67

Mark of the beast

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (aKsyK)

68 >> A regulated industry like this would be simple to put in their place with a little action at the federal level.

Yep -
Hey Chase.

Like your seat at the Discount Window?

Wanna keep that?

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (cU/kZ)

69
And this is how little things like the Spanish Civil War starts. Enough is enough

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (OLCnA)

70 57 We've Chase accounts and I just told them via their account portal "contact us" arrangement, that if I hear more of this suspending or closing accounts because of politics, we will quit them immediately.
Posted by: Jussie Smollett at February 25, 2019 01:11 PM (+fPHo)

We closed our Chase accounts some time ago. I just hope Fidelity doesn't go hard left.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:14 PM (gHApq)

71

But big businesses are all right wing!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 01:14 PM (aKsyK)

72 If a Business or individual is breaking no laws it should be illegal to deny them credit based on anything other than their credit history. It is essentially a public utility and there should be laws to indicate that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:14 PM (bim/x)

73 Eat my shorts. How about that?

Posted by: Alexandra Donkey Chompers-Kotex at February 25, 2019 01:14 PM (hjaPQ)

74 Could we have DoD force all DoD contractors to cease doing business with Chase? They are all, in one way or another, involved in guns and such. That might get their attention.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:14 PM (2LelM)

75 Muh Private Business Decisions is also the means by which the Deep State will increasingly sidestep the Constitution - With all providers of all products and services that we use taking direction from the State, they can have private capital obviate any limits on their power.

Pretty sweet trick.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (AzW6q)

76 Libertarianism is a hollow and self-destructive ideology.

Nationalism is the future of the conservative movement.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (FItRn)

77 And this is how little things like the Spanish Civil War starts.
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Francisco Franco is still dead.

Posted by: Chevy Chase at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (+mfcd)

78 Operation Choke Point.

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Bob Kraft's was Operation Chicken Choke.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (+y/Ru)

79 Hmmm.. I'm taking this one with a very big grain of salt.

Nowhere in the article does it state Chase told those people they were suspending their accounts for political reasons.

Banking is so heavily regulated, it would be very hard for me to imagine them doing this. Social media? yeah.. in a minute.. banking?? I'm skeptical..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (so+oy)

80 @60

Where is that resolve going to come from?

Congress? The executive?

While the executive can reign them in now, another executive can un-tether them.

And Congress has largely checked out on oversight or for the most part, legislating at all.

This country is pretty much done.

Get your affairs in order, there's not much more time.

Posted by: John The Savage at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (lIH2E)

81 While we're at it, can we take down cable bundling?
Posted by: Puddin Head

And the DH rule. Deport the Muslims. Break up Big Tech. Extradite Soros. RICO the DNC. Prosecute the Clintons.

Let's settle ALL of the family's business.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (gHApq)

82 Chevy Chase is still an unfunny c*cksucker

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (OLCnA)

83 "Republicans in the Senate should demand that Chase executives come before them..."

That's funny. And even if they did demand it, and they did come, what would happen? Bupkiss. Just like the "grilling" of the Tech oligarchs.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (H8QX8)

84 If these closed account people don't sue, that would be unfortunate.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (r+sAi)

85 Salmon P. Chase is rolling in his grave.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (speO7)

86 We made a huge, majestic mistake in 2008. The correct answer then was to break up the big banks. "Too big to fail" is "too big to survive" - they got that big through bad decision-making among regulators and rife fraud and corruption among the banks themselves.

But no. We made them even *bigger* instead. Now fixing the problem (which at its root is breaking them up) will be much harder, more traumatic and more expensive. Better to quit waiting to do it and just get started.

Make it very clear that freedom of speech applies and that if the banks don't comply, they'll lose their seats at the Primary Dealer table and be replaced by regional banks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (I2dne)

87 All your bank belong us.

Posted by: Archer at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

88 Nowhere in the article does it state Chase told those people they were suspending their accounts for political reasons.

Banking is so heavily regulated, it would be very hard for me to imagine them doing this. Social media? yeah.. in a minute.. banking?? I'm skeptical..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (so+oy)

BUT we know they are denying the right of gun stores to process credit card payments and also closing their business accounts?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (bim/x)

89 46 Another thing to keep in mind, re: NYT and WaPo, is that over the years those two papers have become the preferred sieves through which the IC executes its leak campaigns.
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Not to worry, Fusion GPS is attempting to consolidate the market. One stop shopping for FBI and CIA. Let Fusion do the retail.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:17 PM (2LelM)

90 Nationalism is the future of the conservative movement.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (FItRn)

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Nice try troll.

Your concern is:

[_] not noted
[X] noted

Now... go away away turdnugget.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

91 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (so+oy)

Why did they suspend their accounts? And it is a fact that Chase said they would not do business with the firearm industry.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 01:17 PM (2DOZq)

92 "Nowhere in the article does it state Chase told those people they were suspending their accounts for political reasons."

Of course not. They're not going to say it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (H8QX8)

93 Chase always sends me a case of empanadas for Kwanzaa.

Posted by: Kamchatka Harris at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (vtcmf)

94

That these social media companies are taking interest in "off-platform" behaviors is pretty disturbing. They seem to be angling to profit from integrating their platforms into financial systems.

Gotta think of 10-15 years from now.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (gIYPV)

95 Coincidentally, I have just started a bank. Please send me all your money and I will send some back to you when you request it. Maybe.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (/tuJf)

96 Chevy Chase is still an unfunny c*cksucker
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Very smirky, IMO.

Posted by: Nathan Phillips at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (+mfcd)

97 86 We made a huge, majestic mistake in 2008. The correct answer then was to break up the big banks. "Too big to fail" is "too big to survive" - they got that big through bad decision-making among regulators and rife fraud and corruption among the banks themselves.

But no. We made them even *bigger* instead. Now fixing the problem (which at its root is breaking them up) will be much harder, more traumatic and more expensive. Better to quit waiting to do it and just get started.

Make it very clear that freedom of speech applies and that if the banks don't comply, they'll lose their seats at the Primary Dealer table and be replaced by regional banks.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:16 PM (I2dne)

Of all the things holding back The Beast (not Shrillary Killary), it was Glass-Steagall holding the final key.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (UnA8+)

98 I have just started a bank. Please send me all your money and I will send some back to you when you request it. Maybe.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (/tuJf)

Hum? Sounds like the IRS?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (bim/x)

99
Cubans appear to have overwhelmingly ratified a new constitution that enshrines the one-party socialist system as irrevocable

And THAT is where the left in America wants to go also. Just like Chase is trying to silence the middle and right

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:05 PM

Socialism: the Hotel California of ideologies.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (jYje5)

100 Its fascism.

Party control over companies without owning them. The only difference between this form of fascism and others, is that there is not one party that contrils government. But then again, they did attempt a coup and Project Chokepoint was Obama's legacy, so maybe there are many similarities to other forms of fascism.

Posted by: Wodun at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (uz/Pv)

101 They even have an Orwellian term for this, at least MasterCard does -- and they were leaders in tying politics to service: "financial inclusion" (IIRC).

Cute, eh? Let's start cancelling accounts in the name of INCLUSION!!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (W+vEI)

102 52 The sign of Eth

oberon?

Posted by: Anachronda at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (sGtp+)

103
Progressive activists push 2020 Dems to pack Supreme Court

Posted by: Ha at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (MAstk)

104 Nowhere in the article does it state Chase told those people they were suspending their accounts for political reasons.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:15 PM (so+oy)

Such a statement would be exhibit A in the ensuing litigation.

Which is why they don't say that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:20 PM (gHApq)

105 Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

I think you misinterpreted his post . He's not using nationalism as a bad thing. And he's a long time poster.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 01:20 PM (2DOZq)

106

Will your ISP cut off your internet if they don't like your politics?

How about the power company?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 01:20 PM (aKsyK)

107 I have just started a bank. Please send me all your money and I will send some back to you when you request it. Maybe.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (/tuJf)

Hum? Sounds like the IRS?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Nah. That is our gig.

Posted by: SSA at February 25, 2019 01:20 PM (+mfcd)

108 That these social media companies are taking interest in "off-platform" behaviors is pretty disturbing. They seem to be angling to profit from integrating their platforms into financial systems.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (gIYPV)

Two Words: Social Credit.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (speO7)

109 Hundreds of young activists with @sunrisemvmt are headed to Leader Mitch McConnell's office to confront him over the Green New Deal

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Bassackwards World. They're mad because he wants to bring it up for a vote.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

110 This is f'd up. It's insane. This is not Amerca, the Republitards need to act. Any Missouri morons need to hit Josh Hawley up. He's a really pleasant surpris. Also, the PayPal thing is a mystery, isn't the founder nominally conservative, or at least not a raving commie?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (fhHc+)

111 86 We made a huge, majestic mistake in 2008. The correct answer then was to break up the big banks. "Too big to fail" is "too big to survive" - they got that big through bad decision-making among regulators and rife fraud and corruption among the banks themselves.

This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (gHApq)

112 Corporations are increasingly run by foreign nationals who come from cultures with no understanding of individual liberty, free speech, etc. That they also tend to run progressive is part of their having been picked for their "diversity" quotient instead of their actual abilities. '

I remember back in my oilfield days, at one time the corp had promoted an Argentinian to be North American VP. He was a pompous ass, and his critics (of which there were many) would say "All he ever wants to do is stand on the Balcony and make Speeches!" Fortunately he finally screwed up enough that even his higher up friends couldn't protect him, and he got bounced. Or as they say when an exec is fired for incompetence "He decided to pursue his life long interest in horse ranching."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (Kpl3J)

113 Just look at what the Chicoms are doing with "social credit." That's what the progs have in mind.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (gC2IV)

114 Man the internet has ravaged my english.

Unpossible!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (yQpMk)

115 Our bank is the best.

Posted by: Nigerian Prince Savings and Loan at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (vtcmf)

116 Of all the things holding back The Beast (not Shrillary Killary), it was Glass-Steagall holding the final key.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:19 PM (UnA8+)
+++++++++++++
The groundwork that was laid in the 80s of permitting funny accounting so the banks could "grow out of the problem" (Citi was given very special regulatory treatment. They had cashflow but were bankrupt and the regulators looked the other way) begot the bailout culture of which we got a foretaste with 'Long Term Capital Management' and the repeal of Glass-Steagall which permitted institutions to reach the "too big to fail" condition in the general case.

Glass-Steagall was one of the only good pieces of Depression-era legislation, and it mitigated systemic banking risk. Its repeal set the stage for what happened a decade later.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (I2dne)

117 And THIS action by Chase (and Paypal, Patreon, Mastercard, etc.) is why we can never go cashless.

If these institutions control efinance then they can block you from any/every (non-barter)transaction they want.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (W+vEI)

118 108
That these social media companies are taking interest in "off-platform"
behaviors is pretty disturbing. They seem to be angling to profit from
integrating their platforms into financial systems.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM (gIYPV)

Two Words: Social Credit.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (speO7)

Yep. Take a knee citizen.

Cash free society anyone?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (ymnmz)

119 Bassackwards World. They're mad because he wants to bring it up for a vote.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

How dare a legislative body vote on a proposed policy?

OK, it was a stalking horse, but it had the form of a proposed policy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, Fear Mongrel at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (gHApq)

120 106

Will your ISP cut off your internet if they don't like your politics?

How about the power company?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 01:20 PM (aKsyK)

Absolutely.

One of the Left's biggest dreams has been to take electricity away from the undesirables.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (UnA8+)

121 115 Our bank is the best.
Posted by: Nigerian Prince Savings and Loan at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (vtcmf)

Free rope & a bottle of bleach with each new account opened!

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 01:23 PM (7HtZB)

122 You may have heard someone say, "the Constitution is not a suicide pact."

That would have been me.
I have said it and believed it forever.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:23 PM (eg609)

123 "If these institutions control efinance then they can block you from any/every (non-barter)transaction they want."

Per prophecy, as earlier poster pointed out.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:23 PM (w7KSn)

124
Coincidentally, I have just started a bank. Please send me all your money and I will send some back to you when you request it. Maybe.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM

You gotta up your game. Space travel is were the best scam money is to be found.

Remain blessed.

Posted by: Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde at February 25, 2019 01:23 PM (jYje5)

125 imo "racketeering" is what is happening. Powerful political leftists co-opting industry, and the corporate giants also seizing the opportunity to advance their globalist agenda. The left and the globalists/corporatists both agree that totalitarian oppression would be useful to advance their agenda (destroying individual liberty and nation state sovereignty).

Racketeering laws (RICO, anti-trust, probably some others) ... were (allegedly) designed to address this, but the DeepState took it in another direction. When HSBC got caught laundering $2B in drug cartel money, that globalist banks (20 of them) threatened "financial contagion" and we backed down, no jail for them. (after we had them dead to rights, thanks Lynch)

TARP was the same sort of threat held over our head, and the banks got bailed out and "reinflated" by screwing the savers (and pushing them into stocks, which inflated the corporations). America is being extracted into the accounts of leveraged globalist gamblers, as the debt on TrueAmerica goes hyperbolic.

Keeping stock markets inflated is not what a real economy is about ... but so many are fully invested now, they count on that magic money machine for retirement, in case the government fails on its ($220 unfunded) promises. Not sure how this ends ...

Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 01:23 PM (Cus5s)

126 Everything is Maoist again. Imagine the woody the Manhattan Bankers have thinking of poorly paid serfs beholden to their collectivist mercies? Has no one in Manhattan bothered to look into what happened to the landowners in China?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (2LelM)

127 One of the Left's biggest dreams has been to take electricity away from the undesirables.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (UnA8+)
++++++++++
Yes. The "smart grid."

It has gotten to the point that if people talk about "smart _____" then they are actually talking oppressing you. Smart grids, smart houses, smart cars, smart whatever - it's all about central control of the means of survival.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (I2dne)

128 BUT we know they are denying the right of gun stores to process credit card payments and also closing their business accounts?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
......

There was one case last year of a payment gateway refusing online transactions of a gun seller.

None that I know odf where anyone was refused in-person sale with a credit card.

Yeah.. it is something we need to watch.. but until we hear something from Chase, all we got to go on is Laura Loomer's rantings that it was because she's conservative? I'll wait for the response from Chase, thank you.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (so+oy)

129 One of the Left's biggest dreams has been to take electricity away from the undesirables.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (UnA8+

They underestimate Redneck ingenuity.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (2DOZq)

130 Nice try troll.�

Your concern is:�

[_] not noted�
[X] noted�

Now... go away away turdnugget.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2019 01:17 PM (8XRCm)

No thanks little cuckservative asswipe. I'd like to stick around awhile longer in case you manage to say something coherent.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (FItRn)

131 Socialism: the Hotel California of ideologies.

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You can checkout any time you like but you can never leave without shooting your way out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:25 PM (+y/Ru)

132 113 cases of Twitter censoring everything but the left:

http://tinyurl.com/y4jvnmvv (Newsbusters)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 01:25 PM (ptqGC)

133 And THIS action by Chase (and Paypal, Patreon, Mastercard, etc.) is why we can never go cashless.

If these institutions control efinance then they can block you from any/every (non-barter)transaction they want.
Posted by: Lizzy

Raise the black flag and start slitting throats. Literally, not figuratively.

The old "push a man until he has nothing left" gambit.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:25 PM (eg609)

134 Citi Bank has been bailed out twice by the Taxpayers. It is nothing but a CIA front bank.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:26 PM (2LelM)

135 As far as 2009 goes.. we fucked up royally.. they should have been broken up then and there..

and people should have gone to jail.. for many years!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:26 PM (so+oy)

136 Citibank is Saudi owned, iirc.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:26 PM (w7KSn)

137 Keeping stock markets inflated is not what a real economy is about ... but so many are fully invested now, they count on that magic money machine for retirement, in case the government fails on its ($220 unfunded) promises. Not sure how this ends ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 01:23 PM (Cus5s)

I've seen the term "financialist" thrown around to describe our economic system, and I think that they may not be wrong. It's questionable whether or not what we have can be called capitalism any more...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (wCmLp)

138 By comparison, how rich are guys like Zuck and and Amazon guy compared to the Getty and Rockerfellers form the olden days?

Are we just repeating the cycle of ridiculously congregated wealth tipping the scales? Oddly this time toward rampant socialism rather than rampant capitalism. I know I am oversimplifying, but what was the corrective action? I think breaking up the "too bog to fail" companies was the solution.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (ymnmz)

139 Remember Barry the Won shutting down conservative-owned car dealerships?

Good times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (ptqGC)

140 Republicans in the Senate should demand that Chase executives come before them and answer some hard questions about targeting customers for their political views.

*Snort*. Good one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (y7DUB)

141 There's nothing wrong with "nationalism" in itself - it's when people start to pair it with other words when it starts to get problematic. Like Bernie's "National Socialism" - yeah Bernie, we've seen "National Socialism" before, we know where that path leads.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (Kpl3J)

142 >>Smart grids, smart houses, smart cars, smart whatever - it's all about central control of the means of survival. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (I2dne)

Somewhere, someone has written a short story about a panic-room that smart-housed into a prison cell...

Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (Bdeb0)

143 I can solve this. I will send you a cashiers check, you cash it at your bank, keep 10% and send me the rest. Easy money.

Posted by: Mr. Nye Gerian at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (r+sAi)

144 The left puts me in mind of that sci-fi oldie "The Shrews" or something like that. I am in my house and the left are these miserable little snarling shrews trying to bite and claw their way in and never give up and never give in. Mean and vicious bastards.

I hate the left.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 25, 2019 01:27 PM (Kcf2u)

145 Socialism: the Hotel California of ideologies.
-------------

Sounded great at first but then it's been played to death yet won't go away?

Posted by: ... at February 25, 2019 01:28 PM (COsdI)

146 >>112 Corporations are increasingly run by foreign nationals who come from cultures with no understanding of individual liberty, free speech, etc. That they also tend to run progressive is part of their having been picked for their "diversity" quotient instead of their actual abilities.

I vividly remember the day the new Dutch CEO gave his maiden remarks at my former Big Pharma employer. The Fourth of July was coming, and he clearly had no idea what it was. "Globalism" spawns a strange breed of executive vagabonds, or maybe I should say condottieri, whose sole loyalty is to their own careers.

Posted by: Caliban at February 25, 2019 01:28 PM (qEujL)

147 And THIS action by Chase (and Paypal, Patreon, Mastercard, etc.) is why we can never go cashless.

If these institutions control efinance then they can block you from any/every (non-barter)transaction they want.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (W+vEI)
++++++++
MUST never, not CAN never. This is why the powers that be want to go cashless so desperately.

There are two problems with this:
1) The plebes don't like it. Even in nearly-cashless Sweden, where the government directly encouraged businesses and people to refuse cash, it hasn't worked and they're walking it back. It marginalizes too many people.
2) Although point 1 won't stop them forever, our corruption helps us in this case. The US government finances a lot of shady shit with pallets of Benjamins. If those can't repatriate because we're cashless, it becomes a big problem if you want to keep on behaving like that. I think our government's corruption might act as a bulwark against its evil in this particular case.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:29 PM (I2dne)

148 >> Republicans in the Senate should demand that Chase executives come before them and answer some hard questions about

where they are going to have Lunch and how their children can get executive positions.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:29 PM (cU/kZ)

149 120
106

Will your ISP cut off your internet if they don't like your politics?

How about the power company?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 01:20 PM (aKsyK)

Absolutely.

One of the Left's biggest dreams has been to take electricity away from the undesirables.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:22 PM (UnA8+)

Helloooo!

Posted by: Smart Meter at February 25, 2019 01:29 PM (ymnmz)

150 My first job out of college was as a National Bank Examiner for the OCC. Yeah, I was a kid with a US Treasury badge.

I'll tell you that this kind of thing can result in serious jail time for bank management. Banks are required BY THEIR FUCKING CHARTERS to serve their communities. That's why there is regulation to begin with...to ensure that banks do NOT do this kind of crap.

I've been in several bank board rooms where our district office's compliance teams laid down the law. I can only think that, somewhere, those teams today are being told to turn a blind eye. Hell, looking at discrimination in services is A PART OF THE EXAM PROGRAM. It requires either deliberate ignorance to not ding a bank for it, or deliberate malfeasance on the part of the EIC.

Sheesh.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 01:29 PM (PFy0L)

151 >>Socialism: the Hotel California of ideologies.

Pink Champagne Futures are Up!

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (cU/kZ)

152 13 >>So, what happens when banks and credit card companies target people for their political views? Do we need to build our own banks, too?

Yes.
Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (Bdeb0)

And since all banks require government permission, you can't do that.

Posted by: SDN at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (AfYvi)

153 Are we just repeating the cycle of ridiculously congregated wealth tipping the scales? Oddly this time toward rampant socialism rather than rampant capitalism. I know I am oversimplifying, but what was the corrective action? I think breaking up the "too bog to fail" companies was the solution."

I agree, and I think we could use the Sherman anti-trust act to do it. I don't want to live in a world where Amazon, Walmart, Google and Apple control everything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (Kpl3J)

154 This should be simple enough. It could probably be done through EO or regulatory means, as dirty as that sounds.

"Any entity which receives any type of subsidy from the federal government (Banks are insured by the FDIC) shall not infringe upon the rights of U.S. citizens and those found in violation of said rule shall be subject to loss of said federal benefits."

Posted by: Astyrix at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (Ndiq1)

155 Cubans appear to have overwhelmingly ratified a new constitution that enshrines the one-party socialist system as irrevocable

100% voted in favor, 0% opposing, comrade!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (zmIJL)

156 There was one case last year of a payment gateway refusing online transactions of a gun seller.

None that I know odf where anyone was refused in-person sale with a credit card.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:24 PM (so+oy)

Yes mostly at the Retail level, but as they say, THAT is the choke point. And that is the rub

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (bim/x)

157 @106

That's undoubtably the next notch in the ratchet.

And being as the GOP has largely checked out on anything that isn't starting pointless wars, getting as many H1bs and illegals into the country and tax breaks for the very corporations that now have a very real boot on our neck, we will have to fend for ourselves.

Posted by: John The Savage at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (lIH2E)

158 "And since all banks require government permission, you can't do that."

Except that, you know... they are doing it.
Right now.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:31 PM (w7KSn)

159 I've been in several bank board rooms where our district office's compliance teams laid down the law. I can only think that, somewhere, those teams today are being told to turn a blind eye. Hell, looking at discrimination in services is A PART OF THE EXAM PROGRAM. It requires either deliberate ignorance to not ding a bank for it, or deliberate malfeasance on the part of the EIC.

Sheesh.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 01:29 PM (PFy0L)
++++++++++
I made a comment about RICO on a prior thread. None of the laws or regulations matter. Enforcement is in the hands of people who would rather not enforce them, so they will not be enforced (unless, of course, you break the other way).

The problem is not the law. The problem is corruption.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:31 PM (I2dne)

160 Trump has a golden opportunity to destroy the biggest myth supporting the Democrats--that they care about the little guy and the Republicans only care about big business.

Trust-bust Google now!

Bill Clinton brought Microsoft to heal on far flimsier anti-trust persecution

Bonus damage: How many of the Never Trump Republicans are funded by these enemies of freedom?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 01:32 PM (TN1P5)

161 Nick "monroe' on twitter went down the rabbit hole on this back when it was Patreon and Mastercard, and he linked it back to ~5 years ago when MasterCard executives got all SJW and partnered with the UN migration people in effort to establish "financial inclusive" practices. So it started out as "How do we get refugees access to money" and then, like all SJW stuff, particularly when you get Soros and other Lefty orgs involved, it became "You should only provide services to people who are worthy."

I'm trying to find the thread on this that connects the dots - it's all there, and it took years to build up to this. It's not random, or spontaneous at all.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:32 PM (W+vEI)

162 One of the greatest tricks the Devil ever pulled was convincing people that capitalism wasn't a left-wing system.

Posted by: Keyser Soze at February 25, 2019 01:32 PM (786Ro)

163 Coincidentally, I have just started a bank. Please send me all your
money and I will send some back to you when you request it. Maybe.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM

Will all my modalities be covered?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 01:32 PM (p+Wdc)

164 144 The left puts me in mind of that sci-fi oldie "The Shrews" or something like that. I am in my house and the left are these miserable little snarling shrews trying to bite and claw their way in and never give up and never give in. Mean and vicious bastards.

I hate the left."

Or better yet, DeForest Kelly's Great Movie after he tried to figure out what to do after Star Trek got canceled - "Night of the Lepus" (giant killer rabbits, if you didn't know)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 25, 2019 01:32 PM (Kpl3J)

165 >>Yes. Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:04 PM (Bdeb0)

And since all banks require government permission, you can't do that. Posted by: SDN at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (AfYvi)

Zod offers you a secured loan.

Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:33 PM (Bdeb0)

166 "4
Someone should sue. What they are doing is illegal. What grounds are they suspending the accounts on?

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2019 01:01 PM (mpXpK)"
...
"Illegal" means nothing without rule of law. We lack rule of law.
Do your own math on that.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at February 25, 2019 01:33 PM (eAshZ)

167 "Any entity which receives any type of subsidy from the federal government (Banks are insured by the FDIC) shall not infringe upon the rights of U.S. citizens and those found in violation of said rule shall be subject to loss of said federal benefits."
Posted by: Astyrix at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM (Ndiq1)
++++++++++
FDIC is self-funded. It is backed with a blank check on the Treasury, but it hasn't been needed yet.

Just make participation in FDIC or NCUA contingent on non-discrimination. If you behave like this, you're kicked out of the insurance scheme. You don't have to keep paying, but you don't get coverage and have take down all of the "your money is safe here" placards.

Add to it a small regulatory change wherein if you once participated in the FDIC or NCUA but you stop doing so, you must advertise that change of status conspicuously for at least 12 months in all markets in which you do business, across print, broadcast and internet advertising.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:33 PM (I2dne)

168
Cubans appear to have overwhelmingly ratified a new constitution that enshrines the one-party socialist system as irrevocable

100% voted in favor, 0% opposing, comrade!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM

That's the new scam the Venezuelan commies are doing, 'free' food (which I saw and it is garbage) but you have to vote the right way.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 25, 2019 01:33 PM (jYje5)

169 @112
Corporations are increasingly run by foreign nationals who come from cultures with no understanding of individual liberty, free speech, etc. That they also tend to run progressive is part of their having been picked for their "diversity" quotient instead of their actual abilities. '
See, Google's Sundar Pichai, etc etc.

Unfortunately a free society cannot exist very long if there is no shared culture of freedom, whatever the law says. When a majority of young people (our mass, political culture of the future) say they're in favor of repressing "hate speech" it's not a good sign.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 25, 2019 01:33 PM (koNhm)

170
I agree, and I think we could use the Sherman anti-trust act to do
it. I don't want to live in a world where Amazon, Walmart, Google and
Apple control everything.

Let's get Disney while we're at it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 25, 2019 01:34 PM (oVJmc)

171 >>162 One of the greatest tricks the Devil ever pulled was convincing people that capitalism wasn't a left-wing system. Posted by: Keyser Soze at February 25, 2019 01:32 PM (786Ro)

One of the greatest tricks the Devil ever pulled was convincing railroad investors who ought to have known better to panic in the late 1990s during Class 1 consolidations and the Conrail split, enabling Zod to make hay.

Thank you, Devil.

Posted by: Zod at February 25, 2019 01:34 PM (Bdeb0)

172
Yes mostly at the Retail level, but as they say, THAT is the choke point. And that is the rub
Posted by: Nevergiveup

................

Like I said.. it is definitely a concern and must be watched.

But think about it.. It could cost them Billions in settlements if it was ever found in a court that they willfully denied access because of political leanings.

Get Lizzy Warren's commission after them!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 25, 2019 01:34 PM (so+oy)

173 166 "4
Someone should sue. What they are doing is illegal. What grounds are they suspending the accounts on?

Posted by: Vic at February 25, 2019 01:01 PM (mpXpK)"
...
"Illegal" means nothing without rule of law. We lack rule of law.
Do your own math on that."

"Go Fuck Yourself", they explained.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 25, 2019 01:34 PM (Kpl3J)

174 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:34 PM (IXZGh)

175 Lawfare. It's been very effective for the left over the last few decades.

Time to implement it against them.

Sue EVERYONE.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:35 PM (IXZGh)

176 Wow, now AOC wonders if it's ok to bring children into the world cause climate change.

She's going full Mao in record time.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:35 PM (/tuJf)

177 >>"And since all banks require government permission, you can't do that."

That's the thing, though, as with other Silicon Valley censorship, they are actively working with *foreign* governments and world orgs like the UN to do this --- and then they get their SJW pals here in the US to agitate for these same policies to be deployed here.

If you already have a Chase who has agreed to this policy in many other countries, they're not going balk when some ShareBlue, etc. unleash a twitter mob on Chase to deplatform someone. They've already bought into the concept of providing services based on the customer's merit.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (W+vEI)

178 I made a comment about RICO on a prior thread. None of the laws or regulations matter. Enforcement is in the hands of people who would rather not enforce them, so they will not be enforced (unless, of course, you break the other way).

The problem is not the law. The problem is corruption.

And having been part of the enforcement, that pisses me off even MORE.

I took an oath when I joined the OCC. I promised to be dispassionate. Part of the exam program would involve looking at loans the bank denied vs what they approved, and that was always interesting (did the bank president override criteria for a golfing buddy....happens quite a bit.). Same thing with account closures...we'd look at what accounts were closed, pick a good sample, and ask why. We were empowered BY LAW to demand answers for that sort of thing. And again, more than once we'd catch a bank trying to rationalize things and say "that customer's business goals weren't compatible with the bank" and yell at them.

This is getting me angry.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (tVWQB)

179 "It has gotten to the point that if people talk about "smart _____" then
they are actually talking oppressing you." mannix

same with "sustainable" ... sounds so nice, they mean crap like "must stop all CO2 pollution" ... based in faked data, which they won't even make public, just trust them. AGW must be believed on faith, or truly, people lose their jobs, or get beat up, or their bank accounts closed.

They are getting incredibly bold ... they know "we" know it is BS, but they have Mueller/Barr/DeepState backing them up ... no one in DC will stop them ... if there are even any not part of their mafia still alive.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (Cus5s)

180 I agree, and I think we could use the Sherman anti-trust act to do it. I don't want to live in a world where Amazon, Walmart, Google and Apple control everything.

Let's get Disney while we're at it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

GE.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (eg609)

181 Let's get Disney while we're at it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 25, 2019 01:34 PM (oVJmc)
++++++++++++
When people talk about Evil Corporations and Evil Capitalists, they don't realize that who they are talking about are people like Steve Jobs.

Jobs ran Apple, sat on Disney's board (he got there through Pixar, for whom he was a major early investor and holder), he sat on Google's board.

Talk about central control. Jobs and his kind are the ones they pretend to be worried about.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (I2dne)

182 Dealing with Chase and B of A, I get the feeling they are operating as arms of the federal government's SJW minions. I suppose they have been sued in the past by activists (like in the home loan side) and they are operating to fleece the makers to service the takers.

Posted by: PJ at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (qlTN9)

183
Coincidentally, I have just started a bank. Please send me all your money and I will send some back to you when you request it. Maybe.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:18 PM

When we use your credit card wouldn't that be making a straw purchase.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at February 25, 2019 01:36 PM (TAmPV)

184 >>Will all my modalities be covered?

Indubitably.

Remain blessed.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2019 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

185 >>they are operating to fleece the makers to service the takers.

Well, that was Obama's Financial Policy.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:37 PM (cU/kZ)

186 Same thing happened to me with PayPal. They apparently banned me for my political views. Except I didn't publicize the fact and thus it made no news.

Zombietime has from the start always been "non-motetized" by design: i never accepted ads, never accepted payment allowed free republishing of all photos and writing.

But even so, over the years, I've had money basically forced on me for various reasons. Especially when I started working for PJMedia -- they basically said we're desperate to have you be on staff, but we by law MUST pay you. I tried to convince them to not pay me, but they refused.

Which was a problem, because how can they pay a non-entity like "zombie"?

Well, through roundabout means, I had been was able to set up a PayPal account for zombietime, but in an era when PayPal's rules were more casual and they before they required all sorts of identity verification. All you needed was an email address and a Federal Tax ID number. Since I had co-founded various companies throughout my life, I had various Tax ID numbers to choose from.

So I had PJMedia pay me by making deposits into my PayPal account. For years and years. And I would withdraw the money to a company account at a brick-and-mortar bank.

Anyway, toward the end, I got lazy and left a whole bunch of money in my zombietime PayPal account, and never withdrew it. So it sat there for a few years. And I just assumed it was totally safe, because PayPal has to abide by federal banking laws.

AND THEN, out of the blue, with no warning, YEARS after I had stopped working at PJMedia, I got an email from PayPal saying that they had simply deleted my account, with absolutely no explanation, and escheated the full balance to the State of California of I wanted to get it back.

When I tried to contact PayPal about this, I was told, "We're sorry, we only talk to account holders. Since you not an account holder at PayPal, we are now going to hang up the phone. Click."

I was only then that I searched around and found various articles and blog posts from all sorts of people saying that PayPal has started deleting the accounts of "hate groups," and I guess I was on the target list and got caught up in the banning.

Took me nearly a YEAR to get the money back from the state of CA, but eventually I was successful, after extreme effort.

So, yeah: Banks (and PayPal is basically a bank) actively target conservatives now.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 01:37 PM (c+2jX)

187 The Feds are beholden to Chase because Chase bought Washington Mutual, which managed to SJW itself in to complete bankruptcy, as is wont to happen when politics comes first, over basic math.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:38 PM (w7KSn)

188 Making me feel that much better about dumping that shithole organization a couple years ago.

FUCK big banking. IN THE ANUS with a MACE.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:38 PM (IXZGh)

189 "175
Lawfare. It's been very effective for the left over the last few decades.

Time to implement it against them.

Sue EVERYONE.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:35 PM (IXZGh)"
...
This is about 40, 50 years too late. When they largely control the courts, you lack standing.

Furthermore, look at what is going on in WA - multiple people who have tried lawfare for years are getting the shit charged and sued out of them by the (lefty, Bloomburg-bough) AG.
The courts throw out challenges to blatantly unlawful ballot initiatives, then turn around and enable the AG to bankrupt people who dare put up non-lefty initiatives with flimsy state-funded nuisance suits and absurd criminal charges.
We are not suing our way out of this.

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at February 25, 2019 01:38 PM (eAshZ)

190 "Rule of law"? I eat rules of law for breakfast!

Posted by: Justice Ruth Bader Dread at February 25, 2019 01:39 PM (+y/Ru)

191 When I tried to contact PayPal about this, I was told, "We're sorry, we only talk to account holders. Since you not an account holder at PayPal, we are now going to hang up the phone. Click."

I was only then that I searched around and found various articles and blog posts from all sorts of people saying that PayPal has started deleting the accounts of "hate groups," and I guess I was on the target list and got caught up in the banning.

Took me nearly a YEAR to get the money back from the state of CA, but eventually I was successful, after extreme effort.

So, yeah: Banks (and PayPal is basically a bank) actively target conservatives now.
Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 01:37 PM (c+2jX)
++++++++++++
PayPal *is* a bank. They don't have branches, but they're a bank.

And this is just organized robbery. If you were making withdrawals, you had it linked to another account. If they wanted to close you down, then they should have sent the money there. But sending it to the state instead is just unreal. What a bunch of thugs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:40 PM (I2dne)

192 This is about 40, 50 years too late. When they largely control the courts, you lack standing.

Furthermore, look at what is going on in WA - multiple people who have tried lawfare for years are getting the shit charged and sued out of them by the (lefty, Bloomburg-bough) AG.
The courts throw out challenges to blatantly unlawful ballot initiatives, then turn around and enable the AG to bankrupt people who dare put up non-lefty initiatives with flimsy state-funded nuisance suits and absurd criminal charges.
We are not suing our way out of this.
Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at February 25, 2019 01:38 PM (eAshZ)

Well, then I guess we just give up, take the anal rape with pride and kiss America good bye.

Thanks for the pep talk!

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:40 PM (IXZGh)

193 Chevy Chase is still an unfunny c*cksucker

Breaking news from 1976?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at February 25, 2019 01:40 PM (Qy4YZ)

194 Found the thread - really good detail on how this started:

https://tinyurl.com/y45om82w

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:41 PM (W+vEI)

195 187 The Feds are beholden to Chase because Chase bought Washington Mutual, which managed to SJW itself in to complete bankruptcy, as is wont to happen when politics comes first, over basic math.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:38 PM (w7KSn)

===========

What are you talking about?

Sub prime mortgages are the BEST way to guarantee a return!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 01:41 PM (XSSCs)

196 I realize that a lot of our current terminology is fuzzy.
It's based on custom more than literal clarity.

But it is very jarring for me to read a piece on this subject this from John Hawkins and have him refer to leftists as "liberals."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2019 01:41 PM (Rxduq)

197 168
Cubans appear to have overwhelmingly ratified a new constitution that enshrines the one-party socialist system as irrevocable

100% voted in favor, 0% opposing, comrade!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 25, 2019 01:30 PM

That's the new scam the Venezuelan commies are doing, 'free' food (which I saw and it is garbage) but you have to vote the right way.
-------------------------
Prelude to complete collapse?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 25, 2019 01:42 PM (2LelM)

198 GE is dying, they rigged their data long enough, need a new group of scammer CEOs. (end of last century, it was a joke, GE would always beat expectations by a penny ... monster conglomerate, somehow managed it down to the penny, per share that is)

imo it seems likely the CFR people decided they needed to control the internet ... a foundation paper (group of those giant tax free leftist foundations) even called social media their Trojan horse for control (of we the people). None of this is random evolution ... the trillionaires have planned their NWO, and with Trump a fly in the ointment, have moved to more fascist strategies.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 01:43 PM (Cus5s)

199 Washington dairy farmers and fruit growers would have to report to retailers whether they use slaves under a bill endorsed Thursday by Democrats on the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee. Farm groups, for the record, say they oppose slavery, as well as human trafficking and peonage -- two other forms of servitude producers would have to report. At a hearing last week, farm lobbyists said the bill was offensive and asked the committee to kill it.

Posted by: SMOD at February 25, 2019 01:43 PM (QkjLD)

200 But why would GOP political leaders side with targeted, grass root conservatives, when their corporate donors most likely include Chase bank?

Posted by: Scoob at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (ulUS7)

201 Look, I think what Chase is doing here is wrong, not just illegal.

That said, it's not like there's a dearth of banks in NYC, right?

Posted by: DocJ at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (NYS7S)

202 For the Left, "1984" is an instruction manual. Yet the cucks keep cucking.

Posted by: Fake GOP = Communist Enablers at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (uloIh)

203 198 GE is dying, they rigged their data long enough, need a new group of scammer CEOs. (end of last century, it was a joke, GE would always beat expectations by a penny ... monster conglomerate, somehow managed it down to the penny, per share that is)

imo it seems likely the CFR people decided they needed to control the internet ... a foundation paper (group of those giant tax free leftist foundations) even called social media their Trojan horse for control (of we the people). None of this is random evolution ... the trillionaires have planned their NWO, and with Trump a fly in the ointment, have moved to more fascist strategies.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 01:43 PM (Cus5s)

GE (through Jeffrey Immelt) was sitting at the right hand of King Barry throughout his entire administration. If they couldn't even set themselves up with as much corruption as he had sewn...

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (UnA8+)

204 FUCK big banking. IN THE ANUS with a MACE.
Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:38 PM (IXZGh)
++++++++++
I sued to bank with Wells Fargo. I had a couple of loans and a couple of accounts with them. As I started to get out of debt, they starting pimping credit at me hard every time I went in. When I paid off my loans, they doubled down.

Every time they did, I told them, "I know you're being instructed to sell me products, but I am not interested. If I am in need of credit, I am fully capable of asking you. Stop the hard sell on credit products every time I come in. Please put a note on my account."

They said they did, and the behavior never changed. I went to the manager my particular branch twice. After that, when I went in and it still happened, I went and talked to the manager again and closed out my account on the spot. He had the temerity to ask me why, so I lectured him on the long rich history of hard-selling me credit when I repeatedly asked them to stop. I had just gotten completely out of debt and money was starting to accumulate finally.

They were pissed and tried to talk me out of it the entire time. It got to the point where I said, "we're talking about *my* money here, not yours. Now give it to me and close this account."

This was before all the news about their fraudulent accounts and bad practices. Moving banks is a pain in the ass, but I am much happier with my credit union. They listen to me when I tell them I am not interested, and they are very helpful and my local tellers and branch manager know me and actually render service.

Big banks are the pits.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (I2dne)

205 Good for John Hawkins. Well written piece.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (IYHxL)

206 And this is just organized robbery. If you were making withdrawals, you had it linked to another account. If they wanted to close you down, then they should have sent the money there. But sending it to the state instead is just unreal. What a bunch of thugs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Yup. They basically stole my money.

THey provably broke a variety of laws, which I researched. They are legally REQUIRED to warn account holders a minimum of THREE TIMES before escheating any funds to the state controller's office, to give the account holder a chance to withdraw the funds. But they never warning me even once. They told it had happened AFTER the just took the money and flushed it down the toilet.

I could have sued them into oblivion and won, but that would have been outing my real identity, which I obviously did not want to do.

I actually had resigned myself to simply losing all the money when the State of CA started giving me all sorts of guff and insane requirements for the paperwork to get it back. I felt they were in on the scam and would NEVER release it to me. But nevertheless I persisted, and jammed their paperwork so far up their ass they had no choice but to refund all my money.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (c+2jX)

207 OT: Willowed on the last thread.

he [Hickenlooper] campaigned on supporting the death penalty. Once in office, he screwed over multiple families.

-
Including the Chucky Cheese killer's victims.

BTW, there was an infuriating 48 Hours on last Saturday night. There was a horrible double murder mutilation in California. Turns out it was fifteen year old mad at the world because his mom decided she was a lesbian and abandon him to marry her girlfriend. He dressed in all black with a mask, gloves and a knife looking to kill someone. The lucky couple won the lottery because they left their patio door open. He was convicted and sentenced to 50 or 60 years.

Enter Moonbeam Jerry. He signed a bill just before leaving office that says a juvenile can be charged as a adult (and be held past his 25th birthday, if a juvenile court judge says so. So they had to hold another hearing at which the yute took the stand and explained that he used to be bad but now he's good. Psychiatrists and what not testified that he's seen the light! The judge ruled that it's OK that he was tried as an adult so it's all over at last, right?

Wrong! A new law law yutes can never be tried as adults and must be released at age 25. So now his lawyers are arguing that the law should be applied retroactively . . .

Posted by: Justice Ruth Bader Dread at February 25, 2019 01:45 PM (+y/Ru)

208 Washington dairy farmers and fruit growers would have to report to retailers whether they use slaves under a bill endorsed Thursday by Democrats on the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee. Farm groups, for the record, say they oppose slavery, as well as human trafficking and peonage -- two other forms of servitude producers would have to report.

But, by all mean, let's bring-in some more H1-B and H2-B visa holders! Totes different.
- The Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: DocJ at February 25, 2019 01:45 PM (NYS7S)

209 "192 Well, then I guess we just give up, take the anal rape with pride and kiss America good bye.

Thanks for the pep talk!

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:40 PM (IXZGh)"
...
Of course not.
But carrying on about suing them and expecting some sort of actual results is bordering on delusional.
People - a lot of people - are in positions to throw wrenches into these peoples' personal lives. They should do so. Other people are in a position to expose this stuff - they should do so (and some already are, especially at some of the tech giants).

Posted by: lurker (the other one. buy radios too) at February 25, 2019 01:45 PM (eAshZ)

210
"Certainly, there are an awful lot of liberals who would love to see us enter a world [in which banks demanded proof of political correctness before providing services]."

I remember how, UNDER OBAMA, banks were stress-tested. Those found weak were ... absorbed by larger, "stronger" banks. Now we have, what, 5 or 6 banks in the country?

"In fact, there was a column in the New York Times last year calling for weaponizing the financial industry in exactly this way to shut down the gun industry as part of an effort to deny Americans their Second Amendment rights."

Obama, Schumer, Pelosi, et al, weaponized the financial industry, and evidently not just to subvert / shut down the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 25, 2019 01:45 PM (FlRtG)

211 202 For the Left, "1984" is an instruction manual. Yet the cucks keep cucking.
Posted by: Fake GOP = Communist Enablers at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (uloIh)

"1984" is Old and Busted.

"Black Mirror" is their new Instruction Manual.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:45 PM (UnA8+)

212 Fun times begin when the Fed Reserve gets woke. It has come to our attention that you have account holders who are known supremacists, racists, gun manufacturers. You have 5 days to terminate their accounts or you will no longer have access to the federal reserve system.

Or when MasterCard starts demanding debit cards be turned off.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (dNzKv)

213 I wanted to say, this cold civil war is about to get a lot hotter.
January 2021.

That oped by the Obama administration official on CNN on Sunday?

He basically broadcast that they intend to steal the election and that if the military does not go along, they'll "betray their oath."
And will be treated as traitors.

That was last call for rank and file to pledge their loyalty to them-- it was no madman musing darkly.
He does not write that without approval from the party
It was not published but in orders from the party

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (TN1P5)

214 Big banks are the pits.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM

Yep. Left BoA years ago to do business with my local bank. No problems so far.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (p+Wdc)

215 >>So, yeah: Banks (and PayPal is basically a bank) actively target conservatives now.

Because they are "inclusive!" zombie!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (W+vEI)

216 211 202 For the Left, "1984" is an instruction manual. Yet the cucks keep cucking.
Posted by: Fake GOP = Communist Enablers at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (uloIh)

"1984" is Old and Busted.

"Black Mirror" is their new Instruction Manual.
Posted by: Hikaru at February 25, 2019 01:45 PM (UnA8+)

==========

Too high brow.

I think it's that one episode of Community where the school was torn apart by social media.

Probably should have been a two parter, but the single episode made the descent all the more extreme.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (XSSCs)

217 Si, an I wrong to assume this SHRM is just another front group for the Left?

Posted by: ErikInTexas at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (mIJ9W)

218 Does compliant in thought and deed count as marked on the hand and head?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 25, 2019 01:48 PM (P83tS)

219 "So, what happens when banks and credit card companies target people for
their political views? Do we need to build our own banks, too?"
________
According to a couple of PJM readers, yes, that is exactly what we should do. And if we object, were not real conservatives.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at February 25, 2019 01:48 PM (YJhzI)

220 There's a solution to this. Pick a day. On that day every conservative with an account at Chase withdraws the full value of the account in cash.

Heck, announcing we're going to and shorting their stock leading up to the day would probably be enough.

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2019 01:48 PM (kOpft)

221 This was before all the news about their fraudulent accounts and bad practices. Moving banks is a pain in the ass, but I am much happier with my credit union. They listen to me when I tell them I am not interested, and they are very helpful and my local tellers and branch manager know me and actually render service.

Big banks are the pits.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (I2dne)

Same move I made.

I used to be with Bank One. I told them why when I left, but they didn't care. I went to Washington Mutual, prior to their idiocy and ended up with Chase (who at that time owned Bank One AND WaMu).

As soon as I could, I went CU and haven't looked back.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:49 PM (IXZGh)

222 Big banks are the pits.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (I2dne)

Dumped RBS Citizens Bank and moved to my local (Bank of (insert name of hometown here)) bank. Took a month to make sure I moved all the auto-payments and stuff over, but well worth it.

Posted by: DocJ at February 25, 2019 01:50 PM (NYS7S)

223 I'm running out of banks I can use.

I stopped using my Citibank account. Bank of America likewise is pure evil.

If Chase is going to be a butt, that kills my Amazon card.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 25, 2019 01:50 PM (bcbK8)

224 This kind of shit will go to far eventually. The national breakup will happen. Choose your side wisely... we are not going to reconcile when so many of our base ideals and values are so at odds. I'm oldish and crippled the war when it happens will be fought by more able and articulate men than me. My job it seems, is to continue to raise my kids well and to pray.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at February 25, 2019 01:51 PM (0OmEj)

225 I actually had resigned myself to simply losing all the money when the State of CA started giving me all sorts of guff and insane requirements for the paperwork to get it back. I felt they were in on the scam and would NEVER release it to me. But nevertheless I persisted, and jammed their paperwork so far up their ass they had no choice but to refund all my money.
Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM (c+2jX)

Moral to this story:

Never do business with California.

Posted by: Sponge at February 25, 2019 01:51 PM (IXZGh)

226 199 Washington dairy farmers and fruit growers would have to report to retailers whether they use slaves under a bill endorsed Thursday by Democrats on the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee. Farm groups, for the record, say they oppose slavery, as well as human trafficking and peonage -- two other forms of servitude producers would have to report. At a hearing last week, farm lobbyists said the bill was offensive and asked the committee to kill it.
Posted by: SMOD at February 25, 2019 01:43 PM (QkjLD)

Do we use slave labor? SURE! It's fun and it's easy! And besides, they vote for Democrats.

Posted by: The Farmers' Argument at February 25, 2019 01:51 PM (RD7QR)

227 According to a couple of PJM readers, yes, that is exactly what we should do. And if we object, were not real conservatives.
Posted by: Spiny Norman at February 25, 2019 01:48 PM (YJhzI)
++++++++++++
Go try it. You need a charter. Watch yourself get frozen out of real-time processing, too. The Fed will probably not freeze you out of ACH and check processing, but watch the card network walk away from you and for the wire-transfer networks reject you.

Even if you safely argue that none of these organizations are behaving badly and you should just make your own (in many businesses they are right, though money is state-controlled and so in that case they are wrong), if your competition is forbidden by industrial collusion (cartelization) - and it is - then the argument is stupid.

It is stupid in the banking case across two dimensions - the industry is heavily regulated and state controlled and the actors *also* act as a cartel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 01:51 PM (I2dne)

228 These actions - in so far as they go after businesses are violations of 15 U.S. Code 1 - conspiracies in restraint of trade. business owners may sue for treble damages and lawyer's fees under 15 U.S. Code 15.
In so far as they are designed to silence critics they are criminal violations of 18 U.S. Code 241 - conspiracies to oppress (1st amendment) Constitutional rights. Law suits may be brought under 42 U.S. Code 1985.

Posted by: An Observation at February 25, 2019 01:51 PM (e6Kg9)

229 There's a solution to this. Pick a day. On that day every conservative with an account at Chase withdraws the full value of the account in cash.

Heck, announcing we're going to and shorting their stock leading up to the day would probably be enough.

Too Big To Fail.

The Feds have the ability to close banks if a run threatens to create drama ala It's A Wonderful Life. A bank itself can likely make the call after a quick phone call with their regulator (OCC, Fed, FDIC) with little or no repercussions. All that would result, I fear, is such a thing being turned around as proof of the instability of those customers and they *must* be denied access to the bank for the good of the stability and soundness of the national banking system.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 01:52 PM (tVWQB)

230 You are not safe at a small bank. The leftists will find out who their webhost is and go after it. Like Gab. Microsoft, your azure service hosts a bank that funds white supremacists. Dear bank, cancel the white supremacist account or your website will be shut down. There is always a way.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 25, 2019 01:52 PM (dNzKv)

231 Spider-phone, spider-phone,
Makin' some people crap their pants,
Loooook out! Here comes the spider-phone!

https://dailym.ai/2BSjDnz

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 25, 2019 01:52 PM (ju9gW)

232 For the Left, "1984" is an instruction manual. Yet the cucks keep cucking.

Posted by: Fake GOP = Communist Enablers

----

And for college students "1984" is on the level of "Reefer Madness."

"Ha! Ha! Can you BELIEVE there was a time when people didn't want the government watching them!?"

Posted by: Qaddafi's Ghost at February 25, 2019 01:52 PM (X/ZRY)

233 I want to quote Ace here:

"These idiots, and frankly, these bribe-taking grifters, do not realize that there is no "corporate autonomy;" the left has created shareholder lobbying groups to push corporations into acting as the catspaws of the hard, Maoist left. The right's refusal to engage on this battlefield does not result in corporations having full autonomy to pursue their own self-directed business interests; the right's refusal to engage on this battlefield merely cedes the battle to the left, and permits corporations to be pressured and hijacked by the left.

Just because you're not interested in the culture war, doesn't mean the culture war isn't interested in you -- and that applies even more strongly to corporations than to to people, because corporations are how the left achieves policy objectives it cannot achieve through electoral political victories."

This needs to be at the top of every post from now until December 2020

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 25, 2019 01:52 PM (bcbK8)

234 Navy Federal Credit Union, USAA Savings Bank.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 25, 2019 01:53 PM (u82oZ)

235 213 I wanted to say, this cold civil war is about to get a lot hotter.
January 2021.

That oped by the Obama administration official on CNN on Sunday?

He basically broadcast that they intend to steal the election and that if the military does not go along, they'll "betray their oath."
And will be treated as traitors.

That was last call for rank and file to pledge their loyalty to them-- it was no madman musing darkly.
He does not write that without approval from the party
It was not published but in orders from the party
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (TN1P5)

That's the first I've heard of that. Sounds thread-worthy

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 01:53 PM (7HtZB)

236 >> On that day every conservative with an account at Chase withdraws the full value of the account in cash.

Most Banks have signage saying you can't withdraw over $xxxx.xx dollars without prior notice.

Now. They HAVE to display this signage or they HAVE to cash you out.

I ran into a Bank Manager in AZ who pissed me off and I pulled just under $25k in cash out that day.

No sign. They ended up closing the branch at 1PM because they didn't have enough cash in hand to do business.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 01:53 PM (cU/kZ)

237 Si, an I wrong to assume this SHRM is just another front group for the Left?
Posted by: ErikInTexas at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (mIJ9W)

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It was not originally, but has become so. Society of Human Resource Managers. It was all but inevitable that it would go hard Left.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (ffYR/)

238 212 Fun times begin when the Fed Reserve gets woke.....
Or when MasterCard starts demanding debit cards be turned off.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (dNzKv)
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Even more fun when they abolish cash altogether!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (Rxduq)

239 I am afraid that political extremists are not in a l"protected class"
But let's have the nanny state step in instead of letting the free market rule
Nike is posed to hit a new all time high today as people have to replace all those shirts and shoes they burned

Posted by: Kurt at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (9VjZU)

240 Navy Federal Credit Union is the largest credit union in the country, and is quite open to new members. You do not have to be in or from the Navy. Lots of local branches as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (u82oZ)

241 where the fuck is the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau in this?

Mulvaney ought to assess a hundred billion dollar fine.

Posted by: x at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (nFwvY)

242 Robot 'GOD': AI deity to preach in temple...

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Ehhh. Can't be any worse than what we've got now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (+y/Ru)

243 Oil fell by more than 2 percent Monday, reversing earlier gains, after President Donald Trump told OPEC producers to relax, as prices are too high.

Brent crude oil futures were down $1.43 at $65.69 a barrel at 1403 GMT, having earlier risen to a 2019 high of $67.47. West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude futures were down $1.38 at $55.88 a barrel.

"Oil prices getting too high. OPEC, please relax and take it easy. World cannot take a price hike - fragile!" Trump tweeted.

Posted by: SMOD at February 25, 2019 01:54 PM (QkjLD)

244
I have multiple accounts at multiple banks. The best one?

A credit union. They seem to be sharing a lot of the latest technology instead of writing their own proprietary software.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 25, 2019 01:55 PM (jYje5)

245
199 Washington dairy farmers and fruit growers would have to report to retailers whether they use slaves under a bill endorsed Thursday by Democrats on the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee. Farm groups, for the record, say they oppose slavery, as well as human trafficking and peonage -- two other forms of servitude producers would have to report. At a hearing last week, farm lobbyists said the bill was offensive and asked the committee to kill it.
Posted by: SMOD at February 25, 2019 01:43 PM (QkjLD)

Lynchings AND slavery? Boy, howdy! there sure seems to be a political party hankering for a return to their "good ol' days", isn't there?

Posted by: They call me Crow, Jim Crow at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (OLA2T)

246 232
For the Left, "1984" is an instruction manual. Yet the cucks keep cucking.

Posted by: Fake GOP = Communist Enablers

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And for college students "1984" is on the level of "Reefer Madness."

"Ha! Ha! Can you BELIEVE there was a time when people didn't want the government watching them!?"

Posted by: Qaddafi's Ghost at February 25, 2019 01:52 PM (X/ZRY)

Was it Brave New World that everyone had to wear a wrist band and tag in all over the place as they moved around.

Now we just carry phones for them and no need to swipe.

I'm so looking forward to he day when they can simply charge my credit card for mileage while I drive around town.

Posted by: Smart Meter at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (ymnmz)

247 Moving banks is a pain in the ass, but I am much happier with my credit union. They listen to me when I tell them I am not interested, and they are very helpful and my local tellers and branch manager know me and actually render service.

Big banks are the pits.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Haven't used banks in 30 years. Have stayed with credit unions.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (eg609)

248 Navy Federal Credit Union, USAA Savings Bank.
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Yeah my account's at USAA. If anything funny happens there, I'm pretty sure we're already shooting anyway (and something folks out to keep in mind, when the civil war goes hot the federal government's currency is going to be worthless no matter where you've stored it).

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (kOpft)

249 Self-willowed

https://spectator.org/polishing-jonah-goldberg/

It means exactly what you might think it means (just read the last couple of paragraphs).

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (vWMNq)

250 I don't blame Washington Mutual for their bankruptcy, they were only following the law.
The law said they had to make the bad loans, so they made them.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:57 PM (w7KSn)

251
Chase Bank has been woke for a while. Go to one of their banks in June and it's all homo pride shit. And wasn't it Chase that had some questionnaire for employees on what their positions are on certain topics like gay marriage?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2019 01:57 PM (OLCnA)

252 213 I wanted to say, this cold civil war is about to get a lot hotter.
January 2021.

That oped by the Obama administration official on CNN on Sunday?

He basically broadcast that they intend to steal the election and that if the military does not go along, they'll "betray their oath."
And will be treated as traitors.

That was last call for rank and file to pledge their loyalty to them-- it was no madman musing darkly.
He does not write that without approval from the party
It was not published but in orders from the party
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 01:47 PM (TN1P5)

Buy ammo

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 25, 2019 01:57 PM (bcbK8)

253 OAKLAND, CA -- Authorities arrested a man suspected of shooting the security guard of a news crew that was robbed while covering the Oakland teachers strike, according to a statement by the CBS affiliate. KPIX said a reporter and a photographer were gathering interviews Sunday about the strike at the Oakland Library when a car pulled up and the driver pulled a gun, demanding their camera. The crew surrendered the equipment and began walking away. The suspect then shot the guard, Matt Meredith, in the leg, the news station said.

Posted by: SMOD at February 25, 2019 01:58 PM (QkjLD)

254 *ought*, not 'out'

Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2019 01:58 PM (kOpft)

255 248 Navy Federal Credit Union, USAA Savings Bank.
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Yeah my account's at USAA. If anything funny happens there, I'm pretty sure we're already shooting anyway (and something folks out to keep in mind, when the civil war goes hot the federal government's currency is going to be worthless no matter where you've stored it).
Posted by: Methos at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (kOpft)

Which is why you keep some prison currency on hand: cigarettes, booze, MREs, and shotgun shells.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 25, 2019 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

256 For the Left, "1984" is an instruction manual. Yet the cucks keep cucking.

Posted by: Fake GOP

Watched Atlas Shrugged I, II, & III last week.

That's MY instruction manual.

"Who is John Galt?"

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:58 PM (eg609)

257 Join a credit union.

Posted by: Archer at February 25, 2019 01:58 PM (gmo/4)

258 Which is why you keep some prison currency on hand: cigarettes, booze, MREs, and shotgun shells.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses

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I thought prison currency was porn.

Posted by: Qaddafi's Ghost at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (X/ZRY)

259 Which is why you keep some prison currency on hand: cigarettes, booze, MREs, and shotgun shells.
Posted by: joncelli

Silver bars & silver rounds.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (eg609)

260 There is nothing more toxic to capitalism, and the spirit of free enterprise that underpins it, than monopolies and oligopolies. The proper function of the system depends on consumer choice, robust competition, and low barriers to market entry.

The antitrust acts are a necessary guard against this, and one of the few unarguably necessary governmental intrusions into the economic world.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (J+mig)

261 250 I don't blame Washington Mutual for their bankruptcy, they were only following the law.
The law said they had to make the bad loans, so they made them.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at February 25, 2019 01:57 PM (w7KSn)

I blame them for going balls-deep into businesses and investments they didn't need to.

WaMu decided it wanted to play with the big boys and made some big bets. They failed.

Too bad. The local banks treated me well, they had free checking and fee-less ATMs at a time when most banks were charging. I left when BOA took over.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (bcbK8)

262 256
Watched Atlas Shrugged I, II, & III last week.

That's MY instruction manual.

"Who is John Galt?"
Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:58 PM (eg609)

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Managed to get through III, huh?

I like I and II, but III was pretty much unwatchable amaeturish sub-TV movie of the week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (XSSCs)

263
Which is why you keep some prison currency on hand: cigarettes, booze, MREs, and shotgun shells.

Posted by: joncelli

Silver bars silver rounds.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (eg609)

Hersey bars

Posted by: Archer at February 25, 2019 02:00 PM (gmo/4)

264 Yup. They basically stole my money.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 01:44 PM
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Before I scroll back up the thread, lemme guess: PayPal?
They screwed me over good. I had a client pay for my real estate related services through PayPal, but wasn't happy that I followed state and federal regulations to the letter. No, not happy AT ALL, and requested a refund from PayPal, which they promptly did, ignoring my detailed explanation, and demanded I refund them the money. After numerous invoices and letters, including one from a lawyer friend (pro bono), proved fruitless, I finally had to take her to court and the judge ordered her to repay my PayPal account, with interest. All this time though, PayPal's New York collection agent was getting increasingly threatening. I'm not surprised eBay dropped their former sibling as their preferred payment partner.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at February 25, 2019 02:00 PM (YJhzI)

265 Oh, and coffee. Take a lot of people off of coffee for a few weeks and they'll sell their daughters into prostitution for a bag of Folger's.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 25, 2019 02:00 PM (RD7QR)

266 Managed to get through III, huh?

I like I and II, but III was pretty much unwatchable amaeturish sub-TV movie of the week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I am a believer. It was easy.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (eg609)

267 There is nothing more toxic to capitalism, and the spirit of free enterprise that underpins it, than monopolies and oligopolies.

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Same way you don't let invaders enter your country and abuse all your liberties.

There is no system that is exempt from corruption, and if you love your system, keep an eye out for the inevitable corruption.

Posted by: RKae at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (X/ZRY)

268 This is starting to sound like the creepy Social Credit program implemented in China.

Posted by: red speck at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (6Krd7)

269 Haul them before Congress. Find out if they employ people specifically to lurk the social media accounts of their users.

Then find out who they don't bother with. Like MS13 gang members and pedophile millionaires.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (pUDQf)

270 #241. Yup if they want to pull this shit then it's time to drop the hammer on them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (OLCnA)

271 " now AOC wonders if it's ok to bring children into the world cause climate change. She's going full Mao in record time."posted by: JackStraw

she is correct ... why birth children if the world will be flooded by 2010? oh wait, now it is 2030.

She makes the mistake of believing the hate/hysteria the left constantly promotes. Someone from CFR needs to tell her it is all a ruse to coerce the rubes. But her "honesty" is revealing.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (Cus5s)

272 Conspiracies to oppress Constitutional rights need not be carried out by government entities. Oppression does not have to come from a government source. For example if I conspire to hire people silence you by canceling your insurance, stealing your property and cause a car wreck to put you in a hospital, I have violated 18 U.S. Code 241 by oppressing your Constitutional right to free speech - since silencing you was my objective.

Posted by: An Observation at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (e6Kg9)

273

1. Where in the Constitution is the phrase, "Except for businesses?"
2. Perhaps someone who slept at a Holiday Inn last night can 'splain it to me how this isn't a federal felony under 18 US Code 241? Chase crossed a big line by closing down an account due to political speech.

Our freedom is being taken away. Who will stop this?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (HaL55)

274 Green New Deal Costs $93,000,000,000,000!

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Barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (+y/Ru)

275 269 Haul them before Congress. Find out if they employ people specifically to lurk the social media accounts of their users.

Then find out who they don't bother with. Like MS13 gang members and pedophile millionaires.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (pUDQf)

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If they went after communists, it would be an attack on free speech.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (XSSCs)

276 >> now AOC wonders if it's ok to bring children into the world cause climate change. She's going full Mao in record time."posted by: JackStraw

"My body, my choice beyooooootch!"

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (W+vEI)

277 Also, as others have said: join a credit union.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (YJhzI)

278 274 Green New Deal Costs $93,000,000,000,000!

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Barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (+y/Ru)

How much was the wall in Syria?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (pUDQf)

279 Chase Bank the same JP Morgan Chase?

Posted by: dananjcon at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (xqfqx)

280 273

1. Where in the Constitution is the phrase, "Except for businesses?"

Our freedom is being taken away. Who will stop this?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 02:02 PM (HaL55)

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The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (XSSCs)

281 Oh, and coffee. Take a lot of people off of coffee for a few weeks and they'll sell their daughters into prostitution for a bag of Folger's.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at February 25, 2019 02:00 PM (RD7QR)

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It sounds silly up front, but consider a stash of toilet paper. Imagine what men would trade to keep the women in their lives from screeching at them.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (ffYR/)

282 Time Machine 2014 with Chase Bank

Exclusive: Chase Employee Leaks Purported Photo of LGBT Survey Question

Many employees have expressed fear that such a question was asked for the first time in what is a yearly survey. Though the survey is voluntary, they say their bosses pressure them to fill it out. What's more, they say the survey is not anonymous, which means their answers are known and can be acted upon.

https://tinyurl.com/yxs968jr

Public survey.

Chase Bank Has Pattern of Partisanship on LGBT Issues

Four years ago JP Morgan Chase told a local businessman that he had to remove a Christmas tree he donated to the lobby of a branch bank in Southlake, Texas. The reason given was that some found the Christmas decoration offensive. The order to remove was not made locally. It came from higher ups at Chase.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2019 02:04 PM (OKeCc)

283 Same way you don't let invaders enter your country and abuse all your liberties.

There is no system that is exempt from corruption, and if you love your system, keep an eye out for the inevitable corruption.

Posted by: RKae at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (X/ZRY)
+++++++++++++
One of the beautiful things about capitalism and the market system is that it naturally contains outrageous corruption through the vicious dispensation of failure. This is why monopolies and cartels are such a problem - they enable corruption at such a scale that it can destroy the system. This is a big reason there is positive interest in breaking up monopolies and cartels.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 25, 2019 02:04 PM (I2dne)

284 2011-13 Ford F-150
Manufacturer: Ford Motor Company
Number of vehicles affected: 1,263,051
Report Date: February 11, 2019
Issue: Ford Motor Company (Ford) is recalling certain 2011-2013 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 6-speed automatic transmission. The transmission may unexpectedly downshift into first gear, regardless of vehicle speed. Unexpectedly downshifting into first gear may result in a loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash.

Posted by: SMOD at February 25, 2019 02:04 PM (QkjLD)

285 It means exactly what you might think it means (just read the last couple of paragraphs).

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 25, 2019 01:56 PM (vWMNq)

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Well, the guy is right. Goldberg is a turd.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2019 02:04 PM (AzW6q)

286
EM GOULASH FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at February 25, 2019 02:04 PM (GEhPL)

287 The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts

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Yup. "CONGRESS shall make no law..."

Posted by: RKae at February 25, 2019 02:04 PM (X/ZRY)

288 So which dystopia are we living through again?

This makes me miss Newport City's hazardous bacterial cloud and having a crime committed every 37 seconds.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (iDkUm)

289 There is no system that is exempt from corruption, and if you love your system, keep an eye out for the inevitable corruption.

Posted by: RKae at February 25, 2019 02:01 PM (X/ZRY)

Exactly that.

And that is what makes the socialists so dangerous, they cannot imagine that they or those who follow might be corrupted by power, and bristle at the idea that there needs to be limitations of any sort on what they can do.

They cannot imagine that the power to help, in the wrong hands, can do even worse harms than doing nothing at all.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (J+mig)

290 The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.

A state can no more infringe on your right to free speech than the federal government can.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (tVWQB)

291 Oh, and coffee. Take a lot of people off of coffee for a few weeks and they'll sell their daughters into prostitution for a bag of Folger's.
Posted by: joncelli

Back when I was working there, 82 - 86, prison currency was "blue bags". Maxwell House had the coffee contract at TDC. They came in bags for the prison population because they were still being sold in cans in the free world. (Metal being a huge no no in prison) A blue bag was $2.50 or $3.00. (Not a full pound)

Bets were priced accordingly.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (eg609)

292 213 Royal, that had not even occurred to me. I was stumped on why they would think Trump wouldn*t leave, the whole thing really didn*t make sense. I guess I need to start paying closer attention to what the Left is saying because they are telling us their plans/intentions.
Scary, scary stuff!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (u8xoC)

293 288 So which dystopia are we living through again?

This makes me miss Newport City's hazardous bacterial cloud and having a crime committed every 37 seconds.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (iDkUm)

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We're moving from Hunger Games to Soylent Green.

Forecast is that we should be in Metropolis by evening with Animal Farm forming by the early hours of tomorrow morning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 02:06 PM (XSSCs)

294 263
Which is why you keep some prison currency on hand: cigarettes, booze, MREs, and shotgun shells.

Posted by: joncelli

Silver bars silver rounds.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2019 01:59 PM (eg609)

Hersey bars

Posted by: Archer at February 25, 2019 02:00 PM (gmo/4)

Toilet paper.

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 02:06 PM (7HtZB)

295 290 The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.

A state can no more infringe on your right to free speech than the federal government can.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 02:05 PM (tVWQB)

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Thanks to the 14th amendment and precedent from SCOTUS. yes.

Still doesn't affect private companies or individuals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 02:07 PM (XSSCs)

296 I have had to educate the bankers at the Chase branch use to bank at that this was going on. They had no idea and honestly, don't see the issue.

I closed 26 accounts the other day. I have so many because: personal, kids accounts, estate accounts for my fil and my late aunt.

The estate accounts were worth some significant $. The bankers were horrified. No, not that Big Blue was trying to squash us, but rather that I would take out big money and move it to another bank.

They hate us. I've known this for some time but didn't do anything about it.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 25, 2019 02:07 PM (xhZSJ)

297 >>The transmission may unexpectedly downshift into first gear, regardless of vehicle speed. Unexpectedly downshifting into first gear may result in a loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash.

Only happens when you are listening to The Beach Boys.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2019 02:07 PM (cU/kZ)

298 It's the quid pro quo. If banks act the right way re: corporate responsibility, the left won't destroy them when it comes to regulation.

But, you also have to do something for us....

Posted by: CrimsonSun at February 25, 2019 02:07 PM (V+o8f)

299 Indoctrination in the nood.

Posted by: micky at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (dF9Lb)

300 I gotta believe there really is an opportunity for a company to come along and say "We don't and will never care about your politics. All we want is your business."

Posted by: IanDeal at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (4zQrR)

301 One of the funniest things I saw during the "Occupy" nonsense was someone interviewing an aged hippie. (And I think the interviewer might have been MSM, so this was stunning!)

The 40-year-old hippie screamed into the mic, "Obama's gotta take over the banks! They need to be under government control!!!"

Interviewer: "What happens when the banks are under government control and then a Republican gets in power?"

Hippie: "Oh... yeah... well... OK... that... um... that would be bad. Yeah."

They don't think anything through.

Posted by: RKae at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (X/ZRY)

302 Nood

Posted by: josephistan at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (7HtZB)

303 Issue: Ford Motor Company (Ford) is recalling certain 2011-2013 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 6-speed automatic transmission. The transmission may unexpectedly downshift into first gear, regardless of vehicle speed.

now that right there is automatic Dave.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (6rX0K)

304

The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.

So we can be taken over by private companies and have every freedom taken away by them (like Chase is doing) and there's nothing anyone can do about it because it's all legal because they're businesses?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (HaL55)

305 Soylent Green is possibly okay if the Left only eats itself.

Which Metropolis? Lang's or Tezuka's?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (iDkUm)

306 The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 02:03 PM (XSSCs)

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This is true, and it's an insoluble problem.

The Founders were counting on it that pluralism and enlightened self-interest would keep enough competing interests at play that the government would always be restrained by various private institutions and individuals.

This worked well for a long time. Now, we've reached a point where all business does the bidding of government. There is no more pluralism, no more competing interests, just monolithic, slavish devotion to the State throughout all major private enterprise. In that environment, the Constitution may as well not exist.

It's something to keep in mind when we set about making the next one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 25, 2019 02:09 PM (AzW6q)

307 The Uni-party still cucking for their corporate masters.
https://tinyurl.com/y6gkyzqa

Posted by: Mr. Nye Gerian at February 25, 2019 02:09 PM (r+sAi)

308 There was an account of what happened in the 90s when Yugoslavia collapsed. Fascinating. Can't find the title now.

Most popular items for bartertown (Sarajevo) during that time?

Cigarettes
Booze
Candy
(and the number one - not even close...) Toilet Paper

Posted by: DocJ at February 25, 2019 02:09 PM (NYS7S)

309 Thanks to the 14th amendment and precedent from SCOTUS. yes.

Still doesn't affect private companies or individuals.

On the contrary - I cannot forbid you from speaking your mind. I can deny you access to a platform I own, but I cannot keep you from saying what you want to say, certainly without your consent. And if you want to sign a contract with me saying you won't say a certain thing and you decide to violate that contract, assuming the contract is enforceable (which is a big IF, btw...) it's a civil issue at most, not a criminal one.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at February 25, 2019 02:09 PM (tVWQB)

310 I've generally been happy with Chase, because they can be found anywhere, and I've yet to see one that puts up an "only criminals are allowed to carry firearms here" sign here in Texas.

That said, I only use them as a clearinghouse for online transactions, to separate them from my real bank, and for getting money quickly while traveling.

Can't resist temptation, how well does Frost work outside of Texas? I keep getting advertisements from them, but couldn't figure out what their pitch was from their fliers.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 25, 2019 02:10 PM (2lndx)

311 253 OAKLAND, CA -- Authorities arrested a man suspected of shooting the security guard of a news crew that was robbed while covering the Oakland teachers strike, according to a statement by the CBS affiliate. KPIX said a reporter and a photographer were gathering interviews Sunday about the strike at the Oakland Library when a car pulled up and the driver pulled a gun, demanding their camera. The crew surrendered the equipment and began walking away. The suspect then shot the guard, Matt Meredith, in the leg, the news station said.
Posted by: SMOD

Yup, that's pretty much an epidemic in Oakland now: Rubbing news crews at gunpoint of their camera equipment, It has happen multiple times in recent years. And the funny part is, whatever station gets robbed usually has the WORST coverage of the crime, because in every case the robbers have been black men, and they don't want to look like racists by describing the suspects, so the station that got robbed almost never fully reports the crime on their own station.

The aspect that has everyone scratching their heads is: Who is buying these stolen cameras from the thieves or their fences? Because the cameras serve no function other than transmitting images for live TV broadcasts. But who has a need for that, other than a TV station? And they sure as hell aren't going to buy hot cameras. Very odd.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2019 02:11 PM (c+2jX)

312 off sock

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2019 02:12 PM (r+sAi)

313 304

The constitution is a set of rules by which the federal government is to operate, not states, not corporations, not individuals.

So we can be taken over by private companies and have every freedom taken away by them (like Chase is doing) and there's nothing anyone can do about it because it's all legal because they're businesses?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 25, 2019 02:08 PM (HaL55)

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You miss my point.

Citing the constitution in regards to private entities performing actions is silly.

You need to cite statute.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Read Some Movie Thoughts at February 25, 2019 02:13 PM (XSSCs)

314 Thanks to the 14th amendment and precedent from SCOTUS. yes.

Still doesn't affect private companies or individuals.

The KKK were individuals not government entities, 18 usc 241 was crafted to stop them from their actions to violate people's Constitutional rights.
"If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or
intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession,
or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege
secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or
because of his having so exercised the same;"
That law absolutely applies to companies and private individuals.

We on the right are not helpless to the left's conspiracies against us.

Posted by: An Observation at February 25, 2019 02:14 PM (e6Kg9)

315 But but but...muh corporate conservative principles.

Posted by: Bill Kristol Fentanyl at February 25, 2019 02:17 PM (yhf6w)

316 Loony Loomer?? Hahahahaha, yeah must be twue!

Posted by: Ban Dongino at February 25, 2019 02:19 PM (i8c6Q)

317 @ Cheriebebe, that's why the op-ed scared me:

It just sounded so stupid. No one but no one is talking about Trump refusing to leave in two years IF he loses.
But here's this guy, out of the blue, like so many "organic" campaigns of the left (think little George asking about contraceptives).

Why would he make a call now for so many unnamed, unknown people to basically pledge to remove Trump from office?

Note how carefully he said, if he loses? Sounds innocent.

What if he wins, but the media declares he lost?
And now the Democrats are all saying he lost too?
And social media is blocking all websites that say otherwise?
And Google crashes the state secretary of state websites?

Who are you to swear your loyalty to?
Trump?
Or the popular will through the representation in the House?

You're saying, "no way!"
And I'm saying, "they're already planning that exact thing."

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 25, 2019 02:23 PM (TN1P5)

318 Mark of the beast
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 25, 2019 01:13 PM (aKsyK)

Just in case anyone was wondering what that looks like.

Posted by: Emmie at February 25, 2019 02:25 PM (4HMW8)

319 Palm Beach Press Conference on Spa sting featuring Robert Kraft. The Media is on a feeding frenzy. It's downright gross to watch them carrying on over this. It wouldn't have warranted National Media attention except for the one guy. Now, because he's a Trumpian they are going to make it a headline for days or until he is utterly destroyed. And the way they are positioning it, why you would think he trafficked these girls his own self.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at February 25, 2019 02:36 PM (Z0huu)

320 I stopped registering as a republican, because the republican party does not represent conservatives.

Now I no longer identify as a conservative because I have no idea what "conservatives" actually stand for anymore.

Posted by: H.R. Cuckinstuff at February 25, 2019 02:43 PM (BvNzB)

321 John Hawkins wants to try and bully-shame conservatives into throwing power at government in order to break up corporations owned by political rivals.
How that is anything more than an SJW appeal to emotion is something that escapes me.
Whatever reasons there are to deal with situations like these, and whatever methods should be used to deal with them, Hawkins is as unaware of them as he is of history. (Conservatives have not been down with trust-busting. Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. Taft wound up getting criticized by TR for going after the "wrong" monopoly, following which TR threw the next campaign to Wilson. The Ma Bell breakup started under Nixon/Ford, and the judge who oversaw it was a Carter appointee. It merely lasted until Reagan was in office.)

Posted by: Sam at February 25, 2019 03:19 PM (YScgw)

322 "because corporations are how the left achieves policy objectives it cannot achieve through electoral political victories."

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Until Trump and "but Gorsuch" they had the Supreme Court to give them what they want.

Posted by: Decaf at February 25, 2019 03:27 PM (FBm+D)

323 Aren't banks given their authorization to exist by government? In other words they are pseudo-public/private entities. While a truly private business can discriminate on non-protected grounds, can a bank?

Posted by: Rube at February 25, 2019 04:13 PM (7XHPb)

324 All conservatives should put their money in another bank and hit them where it hurts

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 25, 2019 04:34 PM (wGqjj)

325

You know, ace, if there is any hope in avoiding an actual HOT Civil War: it might be in situations just like this one.

If Congress imposes law on banks that forbid this kind of gross bigotry against Conservative organizations: it could easily lead to additional laws that protect us in a more universal sense.

BUT THAT'S A ___BIG___ if.

Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 25, 2019 05:10 PM (Z2PYk)

326 Never forget - every Chase executive lives somewhere, and this information can be found out.

Posted by: PFC Horatio Hockenloogies at February 25, 2019 05:21 PM (2Oq7j)

327 It is time to pass a bill that removes privileges to use the Federal Reserve System for any financial institution that engages in activities that obstruct, restrict or infringe on any of the Bill of Rights. That would have the effect to keep them neutral on such matters as free speech, religion and gun rights.

Posted by: JJ at February 25, 2019 05:29 PM (OxJyb)

328 Mark of the Beastie Boyz

Posted by: Rapping Rebel at February 25, 2019 05:49 PM (cCxiu)

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