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Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-17-2019

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Livraria Lello Bookstore, Portugal


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, and everybody who's holding your beer. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by escaped oafs who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which are worn by soy boys all over the world.


Pic Note

A little backstory on this indie bookstore in Porto, Portugal:

In 1906, my great-grandfather, José Lello, and his younger brother, António, created Livraria Lello as we know it today. It’s located right in the heart of the labyrinthine streets of the old town, where you’ll find some of the city’s most important historic attractions. The store was designed by renowned Portuguese engineer Xavier Esteves; its opening was a major event not only in Portugal but throughout Europe.

That central red staircase is quite spectacular. The staircase is an engineering masterpiece and the most photographed element of the bookstore. All the ornaments around the staircase are made of plaster, employing the trompe l’oeil technique to imitate wood. Only the handrails are made of actual wood, brought from Brazil for its high quality. J.K. Rowling, when she lived in Porto, used to visit quite often, and it’s said the staircase was one of the sources of inspiration for the Harry Potter saga. Remember the moving stairs at Hogwarts?

(h/t Scott)


Here's a list of the 30 best local (independent) bookstores. I have no idea what criteria the author used to compile the list, so take it for what it's worth. It might come in handy if you're visiting a city one of the bookstores on the list is in (h/t Timo).



It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

MALARIA literally means ‘bad air’; it was originally thought to be caused by inhaling the malodorous air found in stagnant bogs and marshes.

Usage: Malaria is a disease, not a bad night at the opera.

A Little Pizza Romance

stuffed crust.jpg


Losing our Minds

Scott also sends along a book recommendation for the memoir Gang of One: Memoirs of a Red Guard:

It's memoir from a young man who lived through China's Cultural revolution, and eventually escaped to the USA. I can't help but see parallels between the violent lefty crap happening and his account of Cultural Revolution - essentially, lawless youth running around inflicting violence on the "wrong" type of people while the police and military stand back and watch. Have you seen this comparison anywhere?

Why yes, yes I have. A while back, I started to write a few words noting the similarity of China's Cultural Revolution to certain aspects of 21st-century America, but I got distracted by some shiny object and never got around to finishing it. It was when I was reading Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China by Jung Chang:

An engrossing record of Mao’s impact on China, an unusual window on the female experience in the modern world, and an inspiring tale of courage and love, Jung Chang describes the extraordinary lives and experiences of her family members: her grandmother, a warlord’s concubine; her mother’s struggles as a young idealistic Communist; and her parents’ experience as members of the Communist elite and their ordeal during the Cultural Revolution. Chang was a Red Guard briefly at the age of fourteen, then worked as a peasant, a “barefoot doctor,” a steelworker, and an electrician. As the story of each generation unfolds, Chang captures in gripping, moving—and ultimately uplifting—detail the cycles of violent drama visited on her own family and millions of others caught in the whirlwind of history.

Students were actually hauling off teachers they didn't like and murdering them in cold blood. And just because you yourself may have happened to be a commie and mouthed all the correct slogans doesn't mean you were exempt from having the mob turn on you at some point. It seemed as if the entire country of China lost its mind and degenerated into a series of 'woker-than-thou' fights where yesterday's 'woke' radicals were eaten alive by an even more 'woke' radical crowd.

And all of this was presided over by Madame Mao, who wielded enormous power during these years, and who made Madame Hillary look like Mother Teresa.

Scott also sent me a photo of some bookends he owns. I get the best pics sent to me by lurkers:

GunBookends - 525.jpg


Moron Recommendations

18 Sci-Fi recommendation:

The World Treasury of Science Fiction

1000 pages or so and full of really good short stories ranging from works from the 30s up to the 80s (it was published in '89).

Some foreign pieces translated into English, too, which was interesting because sci-fi means different things to different cultures. The other neat part was finding work by big name authors who dipped their toe in the genre but became famous for other styles.

Best $5 I've spent in years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Everything I Needed to Know About Coding I Learned From RBG at February 10, 2019 09:09 AM (LX21o)

The World Treasury of Science Fiction is now, sadly, out of print, but used copies can be had for as little as $6.

I cut my eyeteeth on The Science Fiction Hall of Fame anthology series, compiled by Robert Silverberg, Ben Bova, and others. Vol. 1, 2A, 2B, and I think there's Vol. 3 and 4 now. The only Kindle edition available is the one for Vol. 1. The earliest story in the first volume was first published in 1934. It's kind of fun reading about starships zipping through interstellar space with the aid of computers powered by vacuum tubes.

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91 Candace Millard's The River Of Doubt.

Many of you probably have read this one, but it was new to me (Candace takes a great picture by the way, and no disrespect intended). Anyway, this was a very fine story of the harrowing river trip Teddy Roosevelt took after his election loss, a trip that very nearly killed him and most every one else in his expedition. Well-written, gripping story and some new geography to learn about.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Virginia is for comic relief at February 10, 2019 09:45 AM (Z216Q)xxx

The River of Doubt: Theodore Roosevelt's Darkest Journey is a book that they could make a good movie out of, or maybe an Amazon Prime miniseries:

After his humiliating election defeat in 1912, Roosevelt set his sights on the most punishing physical challenge he could find, the first descent of an unmapped, rapids-choked tributary of the Amazon. Together with his son Kermit and Brazil’s most famous explorer, Cândido Mariano da Silva Rondon, Roosevelt accomplished a feat so great that many at the time refused to believe it. In the process, he changed the map of the western hemisphere forever.

Along the way, Roosevelt and his men faced an unbelievable series of hardships, losing their canoes and supplies to punishing whitewater rapids, and enduring starvation, Indian attack, disease, drowning, and a murder within their own ranks. Three men died, and Roosevelt was brought to the brink of suicide. The River of Doubt brings alive these extraordinary events in a powerful nonfiction narrative thriller that happens to feature one of the most famous Americans who ever lived.

So, not your typical summer vacation outing, then. The Kindle edition is reasonably priced at $8.99.

Another moron (h/t Huck Follywood) mentioned one of Millard's other books, Hero of the Empire: The Boer War, a Daring Escape, and the Making of Winston Churchill:

At the age of twenty-four, Winston Churchill was utterly convinced it was his destiny to become prime minister of England. He arrived in South Africa in 1899, valet and crates of vintage wine in tow, to cover the brutal colonial war the British were fighting with Boer rebels and jumpstart his political career. But just two weeks later, Churchill was taken prisoner. Remarkably, he pulled off a daring escape—traversing hundreds of miles of enemy territory, alone, with nothing but a crumpled wad of cash, four slabs of chocolate, and his wits to guide him.

See, that'd be another great movie. Of course, these movies won't happen since they're primarily manly stories about manly men doing manly things in manly (i.e tough) environments where they have to man up or lose their man cards, if not their manly lives. The current political climate frowns on these sorts of narratives, and doesn't consider them to be authentic. In fact, their masculinity on display would be considered downright toxic.


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104 Had started Light it Up by Nick Petrie last week and finished it this week, It is the third book in his series about Peter Ash, a veteran with a "certain set of skills". Well-written and tightly plotted and finds characters still dealing with issues from previous books- Ash has PTSD with problems being indoors for long periods of time, which kind of causes issues when one needs to be indoors.New book in series just came out and I have an Amazon gift card tempting me to purchase it...

Posted by: Charlotte at February 10, 2019 09:53 AM (JwHYp)

Light It Up is the third novel featuring Peter Ash, a combat veteran who

...leaves a simple life rebuilding hiking trails in Oregon to help his good friend Henry Nygaard, whose daughter runs a Denver security company that protects cash-rich cannabis entrepreneurs from modern-day highwaymen. Henry’s son-in-law and the company’s operations manager were carrying a large sum of client money when their vehicle vanished without a trace, leaving Henry’s daughter and her company vulnerable.

When Peter is riding shotgun on another cash run, the cargo he’s guarding comes under attack and he narrowly escapes with his life. As the assaults escalate, Peter has to wonder: for criminals this sophisticated, is it really just about the cash?

After finding himself on the defensive for too long, Peter marshals his resources and begins to dig for the truth in a scheme that is bigger—and far more lucrative—than he’d ever anticipated. With so much on the line, his enemy will not give up quietly...and now he has Peter directly in his sights.

So it seems that marijuana can be bad for your health after all.

The first two novels in the Peter Ash series are The Drifter and Burning Bright.


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Books By Morons

Lurking moron SoulEspresso e-mailed this week and asked me to pimp a novel written by a buddy of his. He describes it this way:

It’s a World War I dieselpunk fantasy that deals with different kinds of reality—weird but fun.

The novel is Storm Dreams (The Cycle of Somnium Book 1) by Jeb R. Sherill, his first novel. The Amazon blurb says "Storm Dreams is a fantastic existential adventure and the first published novel of an author who may prove to be one of the strangest writers in the industry."

Do dreams dream? Can a dream become real?

Trapped between the real world and the lands of dream, John Cassidy is a WWI fighter pilot with no memory of his past. He may not even be a real person. Rescued from a dream by a mysterious airship captain named Banner, Cassidy is thrown into a chaos he can't begin to fathom. Forced to flee Armada agents, bounty hunters and the demons of his past, he searches for a meaning to life and the man who dreamed him in the first place. Between dogfights, pirates, demons and the dogged police of the dream worlds, Cassidy pits himself against the armies of both the real and the unreal. Something is very different about himself and Captain Banner, but what it is may require death to discover.

The Kindle edition is $3.99. Also available in paperback and on Audiobook.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 08:40 AM




Comments

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1 Well, after seeing this library picture, I know what I will do if I ever win the lottery.

Posted by: no good deed at February 17, 2019 08:44 AM (uTY3H)

2 Early.

Posted by: HH at February 17, 2019 08:44 AM (mIJBI)

3 “I refuse to answer a literal call to adventure, Morty. Let it go to voicemail.” – Rick

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 08:45 AM (kQs4Y)

4 I read Lost In Shangri-La by Mitchell Zuchoff which was recommended here a few weeks ago. This tells the true story of a plane crash during World War II in the remote jungle of Dutch New Guinea. There were only three survivors, two badly injured. The rescue operation was both innovative and dangerous. A second story is the interaction between the Americans and the indigenous stone-age people. An interesting book.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 17, 2019 08:47 AM (qJzsk)

5 That list of the "30 best" independent bookstores is missing one, Eighth Day Books here in Wichita.

https://www.eighthdaybooks.com/

Posted by: Don at February 17, 2019 08:49 AM (2odZQ)

6 Yay Book Thread!

This is the internet. I can just claim I'm wearing pants.

Also, yay for TR and Churchill. They're among my favorites.

I've stopped reading "The Imperial Cruise", a revisionist history that says that everything in Asia is TR's fault. Mom and SisterCousin had read and liked it. SisterCousin has said there are two TR books en route to me. I'm hoping they're an atonement for the commie tripe they got me to read.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 08:50 AM (fuK7c)

7 Working on a read-read of the Sword Of Truth series. Now on the fist book. It has been a while since I read this, but I don't plan on reading the who drawn out series. I also found a David Weber book that Amazon had on sale this week. I will be hitting that one next.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 08:50 AM (mpXpK)

8 Am I remembering that Connections program correctly and air conditioning came about in part because physicians were trying to figure out how to combat "bad air"?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - ace, make a mirror liberal site for ad revenue at February 17, 2019 08:51 AM (xyung)

9 Livraria Lello Bookstore, Portugal; my God, that's a book store!!!!

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 08:52 AM (mpXpK)

10 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 17, 2019 08:52 AM (90ehy)

11 I read fellow poster AH Lloyd's Man of Destiny series on his recommendation last week.

They're a good read, I would recommend them to you all.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 08:55 AM (TN1P5)

12 A Little Pizza Romance

LOL, a pizza bodice ripper.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 08:56 AM (mpXpK)

13 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a wonderful week of reading.

Love that top photo even if I can't read Portugese. Two things:

I would love to try sketching it in pen and ink. (Don't have the talent but it would be fun to try.)


It would make a fantastic jigsaw puzzle.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 08:56 AM (bmdz3)

14 River of Doubt is terrific. So my favorite Teddy books are:

River of Doubt
Mornings on Horseback
Never Call Retreat

Also, there's this, a TR costume:

https://tinyurl.com/y2r34ual

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 08:57 AM (kQs4Y)

15 Mao moved about 20 million educated people into the countryside to farm (DIE OFF). It appears the Chinese, not a very hardy people, could not live on dirt and muddy water.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 09:00 AM (JFO2v)

16 The Teddy book is great! Their clothes rotted of in several weeks. Very tough people!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 09:01 AM (JFO2v)

17 “The first rule of space travel, kids, is always check out distress beacons. Nine out of ten times it’s a ship full of dead aliens and a bunch of free [BLEEP].” -- Rick

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (kQs4Y)

18 Also, there's this, a TR costume:


Yeah. That's one of the things I hate about "The Imperial Cruise". There's a picture of TR in his Rough Riders uniform and the caption practically sniffs "made for him by Brooks Brothers".

Shit yeah Brooks Brothers. I'm Teddy Roosevelt and I'm going to war with my favorite cowboys, make me look good.

I don't know how anyone can say Brooks Brothers as if it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (fuK7c)

19 I read fellow poster AH Lloyd's Man of Destiny series on his recommendation last week.



They're a good read, I would recommend them to you all.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 08:55 AM (TN1P5)

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Glad you liked them! Don't forget to put some stars on Amazon. That helps a lot.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (cfSRQ)

20 I read Wild Swans a few years ago - I ask every person who thinks communism or socialism (or being a leftist democrat) is a good idea if they have read it. If they have not I say - "Then you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about. Read it and get back to me. And read it while sitting in a park in Caracas."

No sure I can go through reading about that extreme period of stupidity, blood lust and torture again. So I may give Gang of One a pass. China, essentially, killed several generations of the best and brightest people . . . on purpose . . . and have yet to recover. I have been there - and I currently live in Hong Kong. I tell you - apart from being able to take and pass standardized tests - the Chinese are not good at a single f*cking thing. In fact, they are not only not good at a lot of things they are downright dangerous at many ( you should see their ideas of public sanitation and construction - it"s a f*cking joke; and they are almost single-handedly responsible for most of the trash in all the oceans ( along with the Philippines).

And it is such a shame - as the country itself is staggeringly beautiful from a natural perspective.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (h9+By)

21 Here's a list of the 30 best local (independent) bookstores.

I've been to Bruised Apple in Peekskill, but not to any of the others on that list. It really is a lovely store - I not only found a memoir by a Kansas City madam, but some silent film-related sheet music, too.

Peekskill also has a lovely movie theater, the Paramount -

https://tinyurl.com/y566vyuz

- where I saw the Paragon Ragtime Orchestra, well worth the show if they're ever in your town.

https://tinyurl.com/y2vdx6b2

But beyond that, Peekskill is a shithole of a town.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (Ki5SV)

22 See, that'd be another great movie. Of course, these movies won't happen
since they're primarily manly stories about manly men doing manly
things in manly (i.e tough) environments where they have to man up or
lose their man cards, if not their manly lives. The current political
climate frowns on these sorts of narratives, and doesn't consider them
to be authentic. In fact, their masculinity on display would be
considered downright toxic.
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If I'm not mistaken, there was a "Young Churchill" movie that came out in the 70s.
Yep, there it is. Young Winston. 1972.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (cfSRQ)

23 Jackie Gleason lived in Peekskill, in a round house he called "The Mothership."

https://tinyurl.com/y65fv5hz

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (Ki5SV)

24 Scott, any help on where to find that gunshot bookend? I'd love to give that to a friend as a gift. He's nuts about old mystery/detective novels.

In looking I accidentally found these Portal ones (no longer available, sadly) which are really neat:

https://bit.ly/2GvUhjg

And this katana one that isn't really a bookend but just something fun to look at:

https://amzn.to/2X5qov6

Posted by: Moron Robbie - ace, make a mirror liberal site for ad revenue at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (xyung)

25 Yep, “Silver Chair” is still my favorite, and Puddleglum is still The Best Character. I hear him making his grim pronouncements in a dour Midlands accent. Upon falling a mile down through the earth into a sunless chasm, he tells the children “And you must always remember there's one good thing about being trapped down here: it'll save funeral expenses.”

But he is also a creature of constancy and fortitude and sees through pretty shrouds of sorcery: “One word, Ma'am," he said, coming back from the fire; limping, because of the pain. "One word. All you've been saying is quite right, I shouldn't wonder. I'm a chap who always liked to know the worst and then put the best face I can on it. So I won't deny any of what you said. But there's one more thing to be said, even so. Suppose we have only dreamed, or made up, all those things-trees and grass and sun and moon and stars and Aslan himself. Suppose we have. Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones. Suppose this black pit of a kingdom of yours is the only world. Well, it strikes me as a pretty poor one. And that's a funny thing, when you come to think of it. We're just babies making up a game, if you're right. But four babies playing a game can make a play-world which licks your real world hollow. That's why I'm going to stand by the play world. I'm on Aslan's side even if there isn't any Aslan to lead it. I'm going to live as like a Narnian as I can even if there isn't any Narnia. So, thanking you kindly for our supper, if these two gentlemen and the young lady are ready, we're leaving your court at once and setting out in the dark to spend our lives looking for Overland. Not that our lives will be very long, I should think; but that's a small loss if the world's as dull a place as you say.”

Oh, and one thing these editions of mine sorely lack is a good set of maps. I was consulting Paul Ford’s “Companion to Narnia” throughout the series and he had a decent cut-away of Ettinsmoor, Underland and Bism:

https://narnia.fandom.com/wiki/Underland ((click to engorge))

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (kQs4Y)

26 18 Also, there's this, a TR costume:


Yeah. That's one of the things I hate about "The Imperial Cruise". There's a picture of TR in his Rough Riders uniform and the caption practically sniffs "made for him by Brooks Brothers".

Shit yeah Brooks Brothers. I'm Teddy Roosevelt and I'm going to war with my favorite cowboys, make me look good.

I don't know how anyone can say Brooks Brothers as if it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (fuK7c)


Because it's an indicator of privilege and power. Completely different than the clothes Moochelle or Kamala buy. Those are girl power.

It's simple when you know the answer first.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:05 AM (VaN/j)

27 Shit yeah Brooks Brothers. I'm Teddy Roosevelt and I'm going to war with my favorite cowboys, make me look good.

I don't know how anyone can say Brooks Brothers as if it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (fuK7c)

****

Yer damn skippy.

TR: "Don't like my uniform? I don't give a f*ck. You won't be there when I am looking good charging up San Juan Hill, my good douche bag! Bully!"

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:05 AM (h9+By)

28 Mao moved about 20 million educated people into the countryside to farm (DIE OFF). It appears the Chinese, not a very hardy people, could not live on dirt and muddy water.
Posted by: rhennigantx

After Nixon normalized relations w/ China, Richard Pryor was a guest on the Tonight show. Carson asked Pryor if he thought being friends with China was a good idea.

Pryor replied "I think you should be friends with a billion of anything".

Posted by: JT at February 17, 2019 09:06 AM (90ehy)

29 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Adding to my next-to read list Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China. Looks like my kind of book.

"Students were actually hauling off teachers they didn't like and murdering them in cold blood. And just because you yourself may have happened to be a commie and mouthed all the correct slogans doesn't mean you were exempt from having the mob turn on you at some point."

It's the same story, over and over, in Communist revolutions. Similar sentences are in Flight From Terror, which I described last week.

If only I could get my hipster son to read some of these. They are so far removed from real Communism, not having been through the cold war, that they really have no idea how it was.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 09:06 AM (OX9vb)

30 Read "Merrill's Marauders" by Gavin Mortimer. Formed in Sept 1943 with 3000 men the unit was named the 1688th Casual Detachment with Col. Charles N. Hunter in command. Trained to operate as a Long Range Penetration Force they were assigned to Lt. Gen. Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell to help clear the Japanese from Northern Burma so he could open the Ledo/Burma road to China. Jan 1944 he renamed them the 5307th Composite Unit (Provisional) and put Brig. Gen. Frank Merrill in command with Hunter as his executive officer.

Burma was a miserable place to just be, not to mention fighting a war. Feb 1944 the 5307th entered Burma with 2600 men. When disbanded in early Aug 1944 it had 200 men. They had 93 KIA and 8 MIA. The rest were evacuated mostly due to starvation, exhaustion, illness and disease. Stilwell and Merrill were not highly thought of by the Marauders. Stilwell and his staff because of their callous disregard for them, and Merrill because he was seen as a yes-man to Stilwell. It was Hunter they considered the true commander (Merrill was rarely in the field).

It's also one of the few books I've read about the Pacific War that includes the exploits of the Japanese Nisei (2nd generation Japanese Americans) who were linguists with the Military Intelligence Service. 15 were Marauders and served with honor.

Some head music:

Allah-Las - Busman's Holiday
https://youtu.be/IpRh5bChBSM

Gravity is Overrated
Song by First Aid Kit
https://youtu.be/ft5aY1I22j4

Tangerine Dream - Sorcerer soundtrack (1977)
https://youtu.be/1hsHASCmuXc

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 17, 2019 09:07 AM (TDyHc)

31 That be a ROLLING STONE STAIRWAY to some amazing
POT BOILERS..................

Posted by: saf at February 17, 2019 09:07 AM (5IHGB)

32 The Three Body Problem, the Chinese scifi, had a decent "fictional" discussion of the Great Leap Forward and all that.

I was surprised that the censors allowed it to be so critical

I think cause it took a "mistakes were made but China becomes the greatest anyway" tone

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 09:08 AM (TN1P5)

33 If I'm not mistaken, there was a "Young Churchill" movie that came out in the 70s.
Yep, there it is. Young Winston. 1972.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (cfSRQ)
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The one with Simon Ward as Winnie? That was very good. Churchill was quite the lad when young:

https://mashable.com/2015/01/24/winston-churchill-young/#WG4nJvI5QsqC

One of my junior high English textbooks had a chapter from his book on the Boer War wherein he escapes from a Boer prison camp. Would that make the cut in today's textbooks?

https://www.history.com/news/the-daring-escape-that-forged-winston-churchill

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:10 AM (kQs4Y)

34 Just finished a crime mystery I got for free on Amazon, just average, but I read it all.

One of those set in a made-up place in an unnamed state.

Can someone explain to me why authors do this? I would prefer settings to be real.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 17, 2019 09:11 AM (+fPHo)

35 While the library pictured above is indeed impressive, the ornaments and decorations are most likely not " trompe l'oeil ".

Faux Bois maybe

Posted by: REDACTED at February 17, 2019 09:11 AM (RZ6R1)

36 All Hail Eris,

Rick and Morty is supposed to start their 4th season sometime this summer. Maybe.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 17, 2019 09:12 AM (TDyHc)

37 I like my bodice rippers 8 way sliced and crusty clown like too,till the juices run down my tongue and drip on the heaving bosoms of the Domino delivery gals...30 MINUTES ...and I AM FREE...FREE I TELL YA.....

Posted by: saf at February 17, 2019 09:13 AM (5IHGB)

38 34
Just finished a crime mystery I got for free on Amazon, just average, but I read it all.



One of those set in a made-up place in an unnamed state.



Can someone explain to me why authors do this? I would prefer settings to be real.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 17, 2019 09:11 AM (+fPHo)

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Easier to write.

(Said the guy whose six books all take place in made-up places.)

You have to work harder to describe something real and it constrains your action. Also, you can get stuff wrong. My latest book (still in DoD purgatory) has real places in it, and I had to use photos to refresh my memory on how rooms were laid out, etc. Takes a lot more effort.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:15 AM (cfSRQ)

39 Any Teddy Trufan must watch John Milius's two-part t.v. movie "Rough Riders". His team came from all walks of life (inclusive! diverse!) - Haahhhvud boys with a sense of noblesse oblige, injuns, and hard-bitten Western cowpokes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:15 AM (kQs4Y)

40 Several of us have recently cited C S Lewis's Present Concerns. Here is brief quote from "Interim Report". (1956, comparing Oxford and Cambirdge):

"...But at both there is a minority of unhappy young men really very like the "malcontents" who provide villains for Jacobean drama. They seem to have some grudge or grievance; tense, tight-lipped, hot-eyed, beatle-browed boys.... They are rude ... as it seems, on principle; in the cause of "integrity" or some other equally detestable virtue.... [T]ere may be something wrong with our method of intake, or its quantity (academic overproduction is possibly a real danger)....I fear that if this type continues it will in the next thirty years prove an extremely disastrous element in our national life. These are future schoolmasters and journalists or, worse still, unemployables with degrees. They could do great harm."

Does any of that sound familiar to anyone?

I almost never like to type out passages like that, but thought this one worth it. And it's far from his best essay in the collection.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:15 AM (VaN/j)

41 Brooks Bothers have been doing top flight military uniforms for a long long time. They are even mentioned in W.E.B. Griffin's Marine series. Which if you haven't read it is a damn good series if you like military novels.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 09:16 AM (mpXpK)

42 One of those set in a made-up place in an unnamed state.

Can someone explain to me why authors do this? I would prefer settings to be real.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 17, 2019 09:11 AM (+fPHo)


It's easier, for one thing. If the geography is all in your head, you don't have to worry about clowns snarking "the CVS is on Fifth Street, not on Eighth! And Jwest's Diner wasn't in existence until 2010!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 17, 2019 09:16 AM (Ki5SV)

43 Storm Dreams (The Cycle of Somnium Book 1)

Purchased. You had me at strange.

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 09:16 AM (0x00j)

44 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (kQs4Y)

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Eris - that quote says it all. I Love The Silver Chair and all the Narnia Books (The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is my favorite after The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, then the Silver Chair, then the Magician's Nephew. The departure of Reepicheep to Aslan's Country is still one of my favorite scenes in all the books. He flings his sword over the side of his coracle into the sea "I shall need it no longer!" And it sticks, hilt up, like the sword in the stone, in the waves. He then paddles his coracle over the side of the world and is gone, noble mouse, never to be seen in Narnia again until the end of the world.

I do love Puddleglum, though. He was played by good old Tom Baker in the original BBC low-budget version which, despite being low budget, was still pretty good.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:16 AM (h9+By)

45 I remember seeing "Young Winston" in a movie theater when it first came out - and it's a darned good movie. The score is excellent, too.
Nothing much going on bookwise around here - still reading what I was last week, and trying to get the bathroom renovation completed.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 17, 2019 09:17 AM (xnmPy)

46 Asked my wife. She says stuffed crust doesn't turn her on; I should stick with tried and proven methods.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:19 AM (VaN/j)

47 https://www.history.com/news/the-daring-escape-that-forged-winston-churchill


Oh, that's nice.

I believe the Boer War is also the source of "there is nothing quite so exhilarating as to be shot at without effect".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:20 AM (fuK7c)

48 The Narnia tales are full of such great little gems like that. My favorite is Reepicheep's determination to reach his reward:

"My
own plans are made. While I can, I sail east in the Dawn Treader.
When she fails me, I paddle east in my coracle. When she sinks, I shall
swim east with my four paws. And when I can swim no longer, if I have
not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world in some
vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise and Peepiceek
will be head of the talking mice in Narnia."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - ace, make a mirror liberal site for ad revenue at February 17, 2019 09:22 AM (xyung)

49 44
Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:16 AM (h9+By)


I go back and forth between the two, which is my favorite. You are right about the ending of Dawn Treader, it's wonderful. And the early detestable Eustace is a lot of fun. But then, the end of Silver Chair is prime comic Lewis. And Puddleglum is far my favorite of his characters. (But then, Eeyore WOULD say that.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:23 AM (VaN/j)

50 Hey Eris - I found Tom Baker's version (adpated for the TV version) of that very quote.


Excellent actor good old Tom - He was also fantastic as Rasputin and, of course, he is my first and favorite Dr. Who.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh55SzhLkmc



Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:24 AM (h9+By)

51 "With his valet and a vast liquor cabinet that included 18 bottles of scotch whiskey in tow, Churchill arrived in Cape Town in October 1899."

This guy got it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:27 AM (kQs4Y)

52 Posted by: Moron Robbie - ace, make a mirror liberal site for ad revenue at February 17, 2019 09:22 AM (xyung)

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Amen MR!

And Eeyore - yes Puddleglum is one of my faves as well. Reepicheep is my favorite, then Puddleglum, then the Pevensie kids, then Mr. Tumnus.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:27 AM (h9+By)

53 This week, I've been reading Virtue at Market Price by M. E. Meegs. Someone here recommended it.

It's a randy adventure set during the Prohibition, with airship pirates clever conmen (and women).

It's amusing, but not interesting enough to me to read the following books.

Mostly well edited, but I am probably way too bothered that the author doesn't know that "rappelling" is not spelled "repelling."

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 09:29 AM (OX9vb)

54 Read Book 2 of Larry Correllia's Saga Of the Forgotten Warrior Series "House Of the Assassins"

Fantasy set in a very different then the normal Knights of the Round Table redone stuff.

Set in an India like culture but one that is an island so no land connection to Asia and Europe.

Only problem with it so far is since it is a series still being written I now have to wait two or three years for the next one.

Posted by: Big V at February 17, 2019 09:30 AM (sN665)

55 Still reading "Tank Riders:Into the Reich".

Good account of the drive thru Poland and into Czechoslovakia from 1943-45 by a platoon leader in the Red Army.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2019 09:30 AM (Z+IKu)

56 19
I read fellow poster AH Lloyd's Man of Destiny series on his recommendation last week.


Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 08:55 AM (TN1P5)

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Just curious - did you have a favorite character?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

57 I missed an "and" at 53. "...with airship pirates AND clever conmen..."

A little grammar Nazi comeuppance, right there.

Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 09:31 AM (OX9vb)

58 Churchill, visiting the U.S. during Prohibition, got a medical prescription for alcohol.

https://bit.ly/2X4s9su


Note that the prescription was a minimum, there was no maximum.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:31 AM (fuK7c)

59 51
"With his valet and a vast liquor cabinet that included 18 bottles of
scotch whiskey in tow, Churchill arrived in Cape Town in October 1899."



This guy got it.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:27 AM (kQs4Y)

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He lived to a ripe old age as well.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)

60 I finished reading Money Mischief by Milton Friedman. Publish in 1992, it is directed towards the interested layman rather than economists. The first few chapters and the final couple of chapters are pretty interesting. However, he spends A LOT of time analyzing the U.S. demonetizing silver in 1873; I think he makes a convincing argument that it sparked a depression in the USA and Europe but it didn't need to fill about half of the book.

Informative and helps understanding why money has value and how inflation/deflation cycles are created, but a bit dry: rating = 3.5/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 17, 2019 09:32 AM (5Yee7)

61 Publius, I liked that version! Not badly mounted for such a low budget, huh? Now my image of the characters was forever informed by the Pauline Baynes illustrations, but the kids got the friendly (and sometimes angry and quarrelsome) relationship between Jill Pole and Eustace Scrubb quite right.

There is going to be a Silver Chair movie, hurray! I think it will come out in 2020.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:33 AM (kQs4Y)

62 Note that the prescription was a minimum, there was no maximum.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:31 AM (fuK7c)

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Made Truman stop the train for scotch. Refused to drink bourbon.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:33 AM (cfSRQ)

63 For those interested in truly out of the box thinking, the Science Fiction Hall of Fame includes a remarkable novelette by James Blish: "Surface Tension." It follows an adventure of descendants of men who've been miniaturized and adapted to living in puddles, and what they must learn to do to "cross space:" i.e., to move from one puddle to another. A genuinely trailblazing vision.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 17, 2019 09:36 AM (RmBQf)

64

Don Winslow's books about the Border, the Cartels, Drugs, etc are a big hit. If anyone is interested in these types of books.

The Power of the Dog Series, in particular
https://tinyurl.com/yyuze5p4

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 17, 2019 09:37 AM (OKeCc)

65 @60 --- well crap! I had a formatting error. I didn't mean for that to be in italicans.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 17, 2019 09:37 AM (5Yee7)

66 40 ... eeyore, I've read most of the pieces in "Present Concerns". Each one is prescient to say the least. Did Lewis feel the same rage I do at seeing the deliberate, arrogant and ignorant destruction of what's good? Did his faith sustain him?

Perhaps it's time to read the Narnia books. Maybe they will give me a hint at what sustained Lewis.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 09:39 AM (bmdz3)

67 You got a problem wit' Italicans?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:39 AM (kQs4Y)

68 Even if it's these pants, which are worn by soy boys all over the world.

If you're wearing those pants, international law requires that you wear your hair slicked down and parted in the middle like that.

Good morning.

Posted by: mindful webworker agrees with Egon, print is dead, at February 17, 2019 09:40 AM (dRfXw)

69 Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 17, 2019 09:36 AM (RmBQf)
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I'm gonna find that one! I still maintain that the finest SF can be found in short stories. I'm a sucker for series for character development and world-building, but to explore an idea the short story can't be beat.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:42 AM (kQs4Y)

70 There is going to be a Silver Chair movie, hurray! I think it will come out in 2020.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:33 AM (kQs4Y)

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Oh that's wonderful news - ! Thanks - thought they had shelved them for good.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:43 AM (h9+By)

71 YAY book thread!!!

the library photo is cool, and also a vit creepy - the red stairs look like the tongue of a huge cobra

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 09:43 AM (BJlbN)

72 CBS Sunday Morning just had the author Don Winslow on and he is a bleeding heart leftist about illegal immigration.

It is annoying when the leftist lib interviewing someone lets the interviewee say what Winslow said, something like, "they are mostly innocent hard working people," and then never question it.

Not question whether some are innocent and hard working, simply ask, "should we then let them all in?"

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 17, 2019 09:43 AM (+fPHo)

73 Good morning.

With today's theme, I'd like to recommend, "Escape from Red China" by Robert Loh.

Excellent book on the cultural revolution and the lengths to which those in power would go to present themselves as the face of progress.

The only reason Hillary looks like Mother Teresa in comparison to Madame Mao is due to the fact Hillary will never be president of the United States.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 09:43 AM (WEBkv)

74 Maxscene is such stupid scrunt.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (fkYmC)

75 Off to bed here in HK - till tomorrow my hordlings!

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (h9+By)

76 Just read most of the Manafort/Mueller PSR linked by Drudge.

Agreeing to a minimum sentence of 210 months ... especially at 69 years of age is effin insane. I wouldn't sign...as he did in blue ink...that 'agreement' because it got Manafort nothing. I don't get that...

The big thing that jumped off the pages was the incredible amounts of money this guy was supposedly paid...huge sums in foreign accounts ... for doing what? I see little proffered by the government as examples of what could be called 'work'. What did he do to get paid that money. The case did not answer that question in anything other than a cursory off handed fashion.

Yet dispite the large sums of money he is alleged to control, Manafort goes and lies to US lending institutions to take out loans for $1.5M properties X3. Why bother if you have lots of cash? Doesn't make any sense since he is also demonstrated to spend millions on improvements paying cash from those same accounts...even as much or more than the fudged bank loans. Why lie to banks to get loans and turn around and spend vast sums of cash from those accounts? (e.g. $500k on landscaping). He could have forgone the loans, paid cash, and still had many millions left.

So off to prison he goes leaving us wondering who pays millions for 'nothing'.

Posted by: torabora at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (GBCiv)

77 Hey baby, I want to stuff your crust.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (/tuJf)

78 As I slog through From Here to Eternity (at this stage it's just an endurance test) I started reading Sidney Powell's License to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice. Before I saw her on Life, Liberty and Levin I was completely unaware of who she was but her performance that night assured me that she took a lot more of a jaundiced look at the band of fucks that Mueller oversees than mushmouth Andy McCarthy based on experience arguing against many of them, particularly Andrew Weissmann, on appeals court in the Enron and Merrill Lynch cases and before the Supreme Court in the Arthur Anderson case where the convictions were unanimously reversed.

This isn't a book to read if you want to have happy thoughts about the dedicated public servants at DOJ that Sleepy Jeff defended against attacks by that meanie DJT. In fact Barr should take a flame thrower to the whole shit show and if there's a token non villain in the ashes, too fucking bad. The place has been the central hive of the deep state going back at least as far as the Ted Stevens case (and there are some highly disturbing details about the plane crash in which Stevens and others died) and maybe before. And there are more than a few federal judges in on the scam which maybe John "FISA Court" Roberts might admit if he wondered if I was up to kicking him in the balls one more time.

Sidney Powell would make a good 'ette.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 09:45 AM (y7DUB)

79 Here's a scan of "Surface Tension" from Galaxy Magazine (1952):

https://tinyurl.com/msux4og

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:45 AM (kQs4Y)

80 But he is also a creature of constancy and fortitude and sees through pretty shrouds of sorcery: "I'm on Aslan's side even if there isn't any Aslan to lead it. I'm going to live as like a Narnian as I can even if there isn't any Narnia."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:04 AM (kQs4Y)


Exactly. Puddleglum's fortitude and unwavering faith save Pole and Eustace from disaster again and again. The successful completion of their quest was simply not possible without him.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:46 AM (ebz3G)

81 61 Publius, I liked that version! Not badly mounted for such a low budget, huh? Now my image of the characters was forever informed by the Pauline Baynes illustrations, but the kids got the friendly (and sometimes angry and quarrelsome) relationship between Jill Pole and Eustace Scrubb quite right.

There is going to be a Silver Chair movie, hurray! I think it will come out in 2020.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:33 AM (kQs4Y)


Maybe it's my age, having grown up with "lower production values", but I have never seen why so many are blind to the virtues of TV and movies which aren't hyper-realistic visually. The classic case for me is the contrast between Claudius and GoT. In my eyes, the former beats the latter all hollow in everything except visuals. (But then I have read Claudius, and haven't and won't read GoT.)

Personally, I'm skeptical about adaptations. I thought TLTW&TW was quite good, Caspian was weak. And, IMO, the Potter movies showed the same progression. I think that what happens is the directors are so taken with special effects they slight include things like characterization and humor, which become less prominent as the series goes.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:46 AM (VaN/j)

82 O ya baby, I want to eat your cheese...wait, what?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at February 17, 2019 09:47 AM (fkYmC)

83 As I slog through From Here to Eternity (at this stage it's just an endurance test)
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Yeah, I was afraid of that. My father and I don't agree on subject matter, but I respect the man's evaluation of quality writing.

As my old drill sergeant used to say: "sorry for ya."

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

84 Currently finishing Rick Atkinson's "Liberation" trilogy. Military history at its most page-turning. Many revelations, not least of which is that the Allied commanders were a bunch of catty bitches. Monty comes off particularly badly.

Highly recommended.


Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 17, 2019 09:48 AM (j4zcI)

85 Yeah. That's one of the things I hate about "The Imperial Cruise". There's a picture of TR in his Rough Riders uniform and the caption practically sniffs "made for him by Brooks Brothers".

Shit yeah Brooks Brothers. I'm Teddy Roosevelt and I'm going to war with my favorite cowboys, make me look good.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (fuK7c)


In as much there was still relatively little "ready-made" clothing in the 1890s, of course a senior officer is going to have his uniforms tailor-made -- they all did. Even enlisted men needed to have their uniforms adjusted by the military tailors on the regimental rolls.

TR's bravery in combat is not in dispute: just Commie $h!t-stains trying to pull down the reputation of a better man than themselves.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 17, 2019 09:48 AM (5Yee7)

86 It seemed as if the entire country of China lost its mind and degenerated into a series of 'woker-than-thou' fights where yesterday's 'woke' radicals were eaten alive by an even more 'woke' radical crowd.

==

Literally, in Wuxuan, where politically motivated cannibalism occured in 1968

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y65amfcr

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 09:48 AM (BJlbN)

87 Am I remembering that Connections program correctly
and air conditioning came about in part because physicians were trying
to figure out how to combat "bad air"?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - ace, make a mirror liberal site for ad revenue at February 17, 2019 08:51 AM (xyung)


Yes and no. The palliative treatment for malaria was cold air, which was created in the one doctors clinic by running fresh air to the ward over a bucket of ice, but sometimes in the south the ice ships didn't come. The doctor knew some physics and realized that air cooled further as it expanded, so he did some sideways thinking to build a contraption to compress, cool, and expand air to make it cooler.
He expanded that idea to cool things like champagne and make his own ice, which turned out to be more lucrative than shipping ice in from New England.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 09:48 AM (mUa7G)

88 66 40 ... eeyore, I've read most of the pieces in "Present Concerns". Each one is prescient to say the least. Did Lewis feel the same rage I do at seeing the deliberate, arrogant and ignorant destruction of what's good? Did his faith sustain him?

Perhaps it's time to read the Narnia books. Maybe they will give me a hint at what sustained Lewis.
Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 09:39 AM (bmdz3)


Well, clearly Lewis disliked our modern ills as much as any of us. But he also had much better control of his rage than most of us. And faith is the obvious thing to look at. Hooper called him the most converted man he'd ever met.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:49 AM (VaN/j)

89 It appears the Pros 2020 messaging will key of Min wages, less than 3% of all full time workers.

LESS THAN 3%!

Minimum wages paychecks apply to less than 1 PERCENT of all workers putting in 35 hour/week.

This is Union promotion and tactics. Many times a union contract is tied to Min Wages so that the TRICKLE UP effect can be 4 or 5 fold!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 09:49 AM (JFO2v)

90 I, Claudius book >> A Song of Ice and Fire (GoT)
GoT TV >> I, Claudius TV (which I love)



Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 09:51 AM (1UZdv)

91 Okay, I get the hint.

I mentioned above that I probably need to read the Narnia series. But with all the comments about which book is someones's favorite and why, and charming characters and why and a bunch of other matters, you have shamed me into getting started, dammit.

Not that I take this personally or anything. :-)

PS: I already have "The Narnia Companion". I'll keep it at hand while reading the stories.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 09:51 AM (bmdz3)

92 77 Hey baby, I want to stuff your crust.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (/tuJf)

Pizza porn is making me hungry!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 09:52 AM (JFO2v)

93 update on my Book Thread goal - read Good Omens

took a bit to get into it but ended up really liking it

the tv series come to Prime end of May

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 09:52 AM (BJlbN)

94 76
Posted by: torabora at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (GBCiv)


What gets me about that is not that Manafort is being punished - he's long had a dicey rep even on our side - but the vast number of people who won't be. Face it, McCabe MAY get a slap on the wrist, and the rest will skate. THAT is disgusting.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:52 AM (VaN/j)

95 Maybe it's my age, having grown up with "lower
production values", but I have never seen why so many are blind to the
virtues of TV and movies which aren't hyper-realistic visually. The
classic case for me is the contrast between Claudius and GoT. In my
eyes, the former beats the latter all hollow in everything except
visuals. (But then I have read Claudius, and haven't and won't read
GoT.)


Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:46 AM (VaN/j)

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Gotta love I, Claudius. I wish there was a way you could get Alastair Cooke's intro to each episode on DVD.

Speaking of adaptations, I wrote a screed denouncing Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies at a comics site. They republished my Flash Gordon movie threat here from a while ago and have been nagging me ever since.bleedingfool.com /blogs/seriously-peter-jacksons-lord -of-the-rings-is-utterly-awful/

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)

96 one of my favorite sci-fi anthologies was "before the golden age" edited by isaac asimov (which is why i picked it up; i was an asimov nut). amazon tells me there were three volumes, but i only read two.
the stories from this anthology that stuck in my mind were "tumithawk of the corridors" and its two sequels. those can now be found online.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 17, 2019 09:53 AM (IHkCi)

97 This week, I reread Declan Finn's excellent Infernal Affairs, Book 3 in his St. Tommy, NYPD series about a police detective with divine powers taking on satanic villains in New York City. He's been cranking them out almost one a month, so I'm ready for the next one to drop.

I also read Loki's Child by Fenris Wulf about a metal rock band with... unsuspected depths. It begins as a marvelous expose of how the pop music hit sausage gets made and moves on in fun, convoluted, and unexpected ways. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at February 17, 2019 09:55 AM (1pQvR)

98 About geography in books - a few years ago I read a Jack Reacher novel because it was set in my area (Portland, Maine and areas south). There was a part where Reacher tailed some bad guys on the I-95 by paralleling them and observing them on Route 1. Well, they're roughly parallel, but a mile or two apart, and screened by buildings and trees. Not to mention that I-95 is a 70mph expressway and Route 1 is a regular road that ranges from 30mph to 50mph and goes through towns.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 17, 2019 09:55 AM (j4zcI)

99 Eris, you have seen Morty's Mind Blowers, haven't you?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 09:55 AM (mUa7G)

100 61 Publius, I liked that version! Not badly mounted for such a low budget, huh? Now my image of the characters was forever informed by the Pauline Baynes illustrations, but the kids got the friendly (and sometimes angry and quarrelsome) relationship between Jill Pole and Eustace Scrubb quite right.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:33 AM (kQs4Y)


I found a copy on eBay of that 1980s BBC adaptation on DVD for $12, so I snapped it up. Yes, the low-budget special effects are quite cheesy, and some of the costumes look hilariously bad, but overall, my kids and I agree that it is preferable to the recent film adaptations that came out a few years back. We had the VHS editions when they were young and they watched them over and over again.

I'll repeat myself from last week: I am NOT looking forward to The Silver Chair movie coming out whenever. They're going to screw up Puddleglum, I just know it.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:56 AM (ebz3G)

101 This week, I reread Declan Finn's..


Italian?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:57 AM (fuK7c)

102 I have a question for the book hoarding Horde. Is it better to have all your books and bookshelves in one room -- the study or the library -- or to have bookshelves all through the house? Part of me wants to have them organized in a single room, but when I read C.S. Lewis's autobiography Surprised by Joy he discusses his childhood home where there were bookshelves in every room, in the hallways, on the landing of the staircase, etc., and there's something beautiful about that, just surrounding yourself with books. What do y'all think?

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 09:57 AM (ynUnH)

103 90
I, Claudius book >> A Song of Ice and Fire (GoT)

GoT TV >> I, Claudius TV (which I love)



Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 09:51 AM (1UZdv)

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Completely disagree. Burned out on GoT mid-season 2. No decent people, no real suspense, characters rise and fall, story stumbles on, lots of gratuitous sex and gore. Yeah, neat armor, but nonsense battle scenes.

Plus, you can't compare Caligula and Livia to any of the featherweights in Westeros.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:57 AM (cfSRQ)

104 Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:56 AM (ebz3G)

Rick Moranis seems like a decent actor for the character though. It isn't impossible he'll do a good job.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2019 09:58 AM (uquGJ)

105 RIP Pat Caddell. Probably the last honest democrat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 17, 2019 09:58 AM (/fJWB)

106 77 Hey baby, I want to stuff your crust.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 09:44 AM (/tuJf)


"Don't fall for the rapscallion, young lady. He just wants your pepperoni."

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:58 AM (ebz3G)

107 As I slog through From Here to Eternity (at this stage it's just an endurance test)
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Yeah, I was afraid of that. My father and I don't agree on subject matter, but I respect the man's evaluation of quality writing.

As my old drill sergeant used to say: "sorry for ya."
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)


I've stopped reading books before, particularly contemporary ones, that just got too annoying for me to endure one more fucking word of. Even though this is poorly written, the characters are just interesting enough to reluctantly make me see it through to the end.

Rest assured I will wield this experience in the future to blackball any book group choices that I'm not 100% on board with. Fuck this shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 09:59 AM (y7DUB)

108 The barefoot doctors of the Cultural Revolution bring to mind the trend, minor I hope, to call engineering and math white privilege.
The barefoot doctors were, IIRC, the revolutionary response to all those "reactionaries" who had been trained in imperialist medicine.
Mind you lots of real doctors were being Reeducated in labor camps.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 17, 2019 09:59 AM (JgA4k)

109 I'll repeat myself from last week: I am NOT looking forward to The Silver Chair movie coming out whenever. They're going to screw up Puddleglum, I just know it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:56 AM (ebz3G)
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Starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as everybody's favorite marshwiggle!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)

110 90 I, Claudius book >> A Song of Ice and Fire (GoT)
GoT TV >> I, Claudius TV (which I love)

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 09:51 AM (1UZdv)


I can't see it, except maybe that Dragon Girl looks good nekkid; hotter than any of the Claudian babes.

But really, there is no character close to Livia or Antonia in GoT. Not even my lifelong love, Diana Rigg. Or the genuine complexity of Tiberius's portrayal. Is there any speech as good as Claudius's to the Senate on being Emperor? And that's just one.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 09:59 AM (VaN/j)

111 102
I have a question for the book hoarding Horde. Is it better to have all
your books and bookshelves in one room -- the study or the library -- or
to have bookshelves all through the house? Part of me wants to have
them organized in a single room, but when I read C.S. Lewis's
autobiography Surprised by Joy he discusses his childhood home
where there were bookshelves in every room, in the hallways, on the
landing of the staircase, etc., and there's something beautiful about
that, just surrounding yourself with books. What do y'all think?

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 09:57 AM (ynUnH)

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It really depends on the floor plan.

In our old house, we practically lined every windowless wall section with a bookshelf, but we subsequently got rid of a lot of the ones that never got read (and were of dubious reference value).

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:01 AM (cfSRQ)

112 What do y'all think?
Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 09:57 AM (ynUnH)
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Books everywhere.

Don't forget the bathroom!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:01 AM (kQs4Y)

113

But really, there is no character close to Livia or Antonia in GoT.



Antonia really gets overlooked in I, Claudius. She's the last noble Roman.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:01 AM (dSQwl)

114 Bandersnatch, here's the source of the Churchill quote.
Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.
Winston S Churchill, The Story of the Malakand Field Force, London 1898

https://tinyurl.com/y4bs5mn4

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 10:02 AM (0x00j)

115 There's a lot of I, Cladius in GoT. Also English medieval history. Put in a blender on puree and turned into pulp.

Geoffrey is Caligula. Cersei is Livia.

GoT has a lot of good character arcs. It'll be challenge to resolve them in six episodes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:02 AM (1UZdv)

116 I love the Sunday pictures of libraries and bookstores. Temples of Learning from a more enlightened time.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 10:02 AM (yQpMk)

117 95
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)


Link didn't work for me. Could you tinyURL it?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:03 AM (VaN/j)

118
Shit yeah Brooks Brothers. I'm Teddy Roosevelt and I'm going to war with my favorite cowboys, make me look good.



I don't know how anyone can say Brooks Brothers as if it's a bad thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 09:02 AM (fuK7c)


Brooks Brothers was a US military uniform tailor, Generals Sheridan and Sherman had their uniforms tailored there. (For the record, a lot of infantrymen heading out to Cuba through New York had their Krag rifles' side-plate and a couple other key parts Silver plated at Tiffany's because of rust issues in the tropics, so real men can sniff all they want)

The only thing I have bad to say about Brooks Brothers are the $115 dress shirts.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 10:03 AM (mUa7G)

119 some infantrymen, maybe not technically lots.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 10:04 AM (mUa7G)

120 where yesterday's 'woke' radicals were eaten alive by an even more 'woke' radical crowd.

Why no, that doesn't sound contemporary at all, said Fauxcahontus, looking at Ocrazyeyes.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wokeness by covfefe at February 17, 2019 10:04 AM (dRfXw)

121 I'll repeat myself from last week: I am NOT looking forward to The Silver Chair movie coming out whenever. They're going to screw up Puddleglum, I just know it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:56 AM (ebz3G)


Probably make him xer a strong proud lesbian Wiggle.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:05 AM (VaN/j)

122 I've stopped reading books before, particularly
contemporary ones, that just got too annoying for me to endure one more
fucking word of. Even though this is poorly written, the characters are
just interesting enough to reluctantly make me see it through to the
end.



Rest assured I will wield this experience in the future to blackball
any book group choices that I'm not 100% on board with. Fuck this
shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 09:59 AM (y7DUB)

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Does the rest of the group like it?

As for dropping a book midway through, it doesn't happen often to me simply because I'm kind of picky about what I pick up. The last book I quit was "Ulysses" because it was sooo stupid.

Here again I consulted with my father, who noted that no, it didn't get better as it went on and yes, it's wildly overrated.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:05 AM (cfSRQ)

123 120 where yesterday's 'woke' radicals were eaten alive by an even more 'woke' radical crowd.

Why no, that doesn't sound contemporary at all, said Fauxcahontus, looking at Ocrazyeyes.
Posted by: mindful webworker - wokeness by covfefe at February 17, 2019 10:04 AM (dRfXw)

In my mind's eye I can see people waking up, sometime in the future, as if out of a nightmare to survey the wreckage.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 17, 2019 10:06 AM (JgA4k)

124 Wow, according to Wikipedia barefoot doctors were a great thing and medical care has gone downhill since they stopped the program.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2019 10:07 AM (kufk0)

125 There's a lot of I, Cladius in GoT. Also English medieval history. Put in a blender on puree and turned into pulp.

Geoffrey is Caligula. Cersei is Livia.

GoT has a lot of good character arcs. It'll be challenge to resolve them in six episodes.




Killing them all off is the simple solution. If the series doesn't end with everyone dead and the Night King sitting on the Iron Throne I will be disappointed.


The thing that amuses me is that the history of Westros is so blatantly English history. The First Men are the original British inhabitants. North of the wall are the crazy fierce Scots. The Andals are the Saxons, and of course, the Targaryens are the Normans.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 10:07 AM (yQpMk)

126 >>I love the Sunday pictures of libraries and bookstores. Temples of Learning from a more enlightened time.

This one in particular is stunning.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:07 AM (/tuJf)

127 Geoffrey is Caligula. Cersei is Livia.


I haven't seen I, Claudius since back in the day so this never occurred to me.


Tony Soprano's mother was Livia.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (fuK7c)

128 Link didn't work for me. Could you tinyURL it?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:03 AM (VaN/j)

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Forgot to mention there are some spaces. One is after "com" the other is after "lord." If you take 'em out, it works.

I should probably use tiny urls, but am too lazy.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (cfSRQ)

129 I have the World Treasury of Science Fiction (not yet read), the Science Fiction Hall of Fame volumes 1, 2a, and 2b (some read), and nearly all of the Year's Best Science Fiction by Gardner Dozois (volumes 3-32 and 34, about half read). I don't know why I love SF short stories so much, but I don't have to justify myself.

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (ynUnH)

130 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)

My thoughts exactly. I hate what they did with Gimli, making him the butt of jokes. The friendship that developed between Gimli and Legolas, in spite of generations of acrimony between elves and dwarves, was one of my favorite things in the series.

And Boromir was susceptible to the lure of power because he wanted to use it to defend his homeland. The Ring always uses your good intentions against you.

But to make the icy and aloof Denethor into a ravening greasetrap was beyond the pale.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (kQs4Y)

131 Caligula was a movie! Sadly it never got finished.

Charles Laughton was Caligula. Here's the scene where he castigates the Senate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_gmq9Qk3kQ

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (1UZdv)

132 I read that the Brits had made a TV series from a book called ADiscovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness. I usually don't like tv made from books as much as I like books, but it does mean that a lot of people liked the book. Picked up a well worn copy at the library and immediately was completely fascinated by it. A lot of paranormal romance books are pretty formulaic but this one creates an earth populated by witches,vampires and demons integrated into society but invisible to humans. It opens in Oxford, England in a library(of all places!) with a woman researcher studying old books on alchemy which is her specialty. She asks for an old manuscript to be retrieved from the archives which turns out to be a magically spelled book that all three creatures,as they call themselves, have been looking for for generations as it has hidden itself waiting for the one person who could open it. She immediately becomes a target. So, there is a mystery, sexual tension, history, poetry, and lots and lots of references to real historical books. Can't wait to read the next two in the trilogy. Enjoy!

Posted by: Sharon at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (QzF6i)

133 113

But really, there is no character close to Livia or Antonia in GoT.


Antonia really gets overlooked in I, Claudius. She's the last noble Roman.
Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:01 AM (dSQwl)


One thing I like about IC (book and series, and of course both books) is the decline of the women's characters. The progression of Livia - Livilla - Agrippinilla parallels Antonia - Agrippina and Julia - Messalina. In each case, the later versions are so much weaker than the earlier.

For instance, Agrippina, though a "good" character, is obsessed with her family, putting them over Rome. Antonia is appalled by what she produces.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:10 AM (VaN/j)

134 RIP Pat Caddell. Probably the last honest democrat.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 17, 2019 09:58 AM (/fJWB)


Hard to believe he helped inflict Adultery of the Heart on the nation, although there might have been a time when that senile fuck wasn't so far gone that he started spanking it to whatever squeeze a tinpot dictator used as a temporary bang toy and was actually somewhat of a centrist. Caddell was certainly prescient on what a worthless shit show the donks devolved to but it's also telling that he didn't consider the Uniparty-R as a desirable alternative.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 10:10 AM (y7DUB)

135 Jim S., (Thanks for introducing "Present Concerns" to the book thread a few weeks ago.)

Having all the books in one room isn't an option for us. No one room has enough wall space unless we block windows. We compromised by having certain subjects grouped together somewhere. Cookbooks, art, certain series (Nero Wolfe, Liturgical mysteries, Bernard Cornwell, etc.). All our Lewis, Tolkien, Chesterton, Churchill related books are together. You get the idea. The system isn't perfect but it helps.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 10:10 AM (bmdz3)

136 OK, time for tea. Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 17, 2019 10:10 AM (Ki5SV)

137 The commies sent a lot of people 'into the countryside' to get them out of the way. Come across that theme a lot recently. Mao's Red Guards, the Khmer Rouge, etc.


It seems the Commie outlook is that rural living is contemptible and for undesireables. Odd how they even think that in this country.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:11 AM (dSQwl)

138 noting the similarity of China's Cultural Revolution to certain aspects of 21st-century America,

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I'm on a Spanish Civil War kick for the same reason. Unhinged totalitarian utopianism, particularly in Barcelona where the anarchists ruled, resembles Seattle of today. Some of the pictures of the utopian youth marching off to their eventual destruction are haunting.

https://bit.ly/2V5Fgbc

Incidentally, this propaganda poster shows their view of the church.

https://bit.ly/2S5UXgp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 10:12 AM (+y/Ru)

139 Killing them all off is the simple solution. If the
series doesn't end with everyone dead and the Night King sitting on the
Iron Throne I will be disappointed.




The thing that amuses me is that the history of Westros is so
blatantly English history. The First Men are the original British
inhabitants. North of the wall are the crazy fierce Scots. The Andals
are the Saxons, and of course, the Targaryens are the Normans.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 17, 2019 10:07 AM (yQpMk)

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I think that was George RRRR Martin's original plan. He really enjoyed the thrill of unexpectedly killing off major characters, but now that HBO has the rights, he's utterly lost. They won't let him pull "a Matrix" and destroy the property after so much money is tied up in it.

As for Westeros, it's a fantasy version of the War of the Roses.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:13 AM (cfSRQ)

140 It seemed as if the entire country of China lost its mind and degenerated into a series of 'woker-than-thou' fights where yesterday's 'woke' radicals were eaten alive by an even more 'woke' radical crowd.

Accept no imitations.

Posted by: France at February 17, 2019 10:13 AM (sdi6R)

141 GoT has a lot of good character arcs. It'll be challenge to resolve them in six episodes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:02 AM (1UZdv)

Dude....no problem at all!

Posted by: Deus ex machina at February 17, 2019 10:13 AM (wYseH)

142 So, morning, y'all. A bit cloudy and foggy, but at least it's 60 plus....

so more coffeve!

Any word if the blushing bride and such are still happily wed and all?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:13 AM (6qErC)

143 100 ... "They're going to screw up Puddleglum, I just know it."

OM, From what folks here have described, it's too bad Alan Rickman isn't available for the Puddleglum role. I miss his acting.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 10:14 AM (bmdz3)

144 "was beyond the pale."

You do realize that the Pale was greater Dublin, and beyond the Pale was used by the English to describe the barbarians on the rest of the island, including my ancestors.

You're on notice. I've been triggered.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:14 AM (1UZdv)

145 It seems the Commie outlook is that rural living is contemptible and for undesireables. Odd how they even think that in this country.
Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:11 AM (dSQwl)
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Well, I suspect the commie outlook on rural living may have to do with the fact that people who live a little closer to the earth, and know the realities of what it takes to make a living, are less susceptible to the stupid "theories" of those far removed from eking out a living.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 10:14 AM (WEBkv)

146 I have a question for the book hoarding Horde. Is it better to have all
your books and bookshelves in one room -- the study or the library

==

if they fit...

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:14 AM (BJlbN)

147 Accept no imitations.
Posted by: France"

History. How it do work again?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:16 AM (6qErC)

148 As for Westeros, it's a fantasy version of the War of the Roses.


Well, yeah, except for truncating the geography. You sail across the channel and you're in Tunisia, not France.

You still have the fucking Scots north of Hadrian's Wall.

And it's not bad. Robert E. Howard (not academic) compressed the world for Conan and J.R.R. Tolkien (very academic) compressed it for Middle Earth.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 10:17 AM (fuK7c)

149 Any word if the blushing bride and such are still happily wed and all?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:13 AM (6qErC)


I don't think they've started yet. Wedding isn't until next week.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 10:17 AM (t+qrx)

150 127
Geoffrey is Caligula. Cersei is Livia.




I haven't seen I, Claudius since back in the day so this never occurred to me.




Tony Soprano's mother was Livia.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (fuK7c)

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Geoffrey isn't worthy of holding Caligula's toga. And Livia would have had Cersei stuffed and hanging on her mantlepiece.

Don't get me wrong, there are some great actors on the show, but there is zero complexity to the characters. Livia is wonderful, wicked and yet so driven by fear of civil war even her own children aren't safe.

Plus, it's a who's who of British acting. Even Patrick Stewart (WITH HAIR!) shows up.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:17 AM (cfSRQ)

151 (Thanks for introducing "Present Concerns" to the book thread a few weeks ago.)

Yeah! Have you had a chance to read some or all of it yet? One of my favorite lines in there is something like, "We now know that an angry and insistent pacifism is one of the surest paths to war."

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:18 AM (ynUnH)

152 Joffrey isn't worthy of holding Caligula's toga.

Ramsay Bolton on the other hand . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 10:18 AM (Xk4Hx)

153 Posted by: Sharon at February 17, 2019 10:09 AM (QzF6i)

I didn't like A Discovery of Witches ... I don't remember why exactly
Probably did not like the main character.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:19 AM (BJlbN)

154 Plus, who can forget the great lines from I, Claudius.

"We have arrested the conspirators, Caesar. They await trial and execution."

"Oh, by the way. Don't eat the figs."

I need to rewatch that.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:20 AM (cfSRQ)

155 Does the rest of the group like it?

No and some of them flat out refused to read it.

As for dropping a book midway through, it doesn't happen often to me simply because I'm kind of picky about what I pick up. The last book I quit was "Ulysses" because it was sooo stupid.

Here again I consulted with my father, who noted that no, it didn't get better as it went on and yes, it's wildly overrated.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:05 AM (cfSRQ)


One of the advantages of the book group is that I'll occasionally be pleasantly surprised by something I would have never undertaken on my own. Regarding Ulysses I have a more positive view of it than you and your father while understanding why you feel that way. Molly Bloom's Soliloquy at the end is one of literature's all time bail out jobs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 10:20 AM (y7DUB)

156 ok, just yo get thius straight - is the book.I Claudius good?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (BJlbN)

157 beyond the Pale was used by the English to describe the barbarians on the rest of the island, including my ancestors.
You're on notice. I've been triggered.


Don't look at me. My ancestors were just there to shag redheads

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (Xk4Hx)

158 Awright, off to mass.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (cfSRQ)

159 My house is small enough that I don't have a choice of having all my books in one room. We're actually running out of room in the house in general. So my question really is, in an ideal world, if you had a big enough room, would you want all your books in one glorious sanctuary or spread all throughout?

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (ynUnH)

160 Don't look at me. My ancestors were just there to shag redheads
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (Xk4Hx)
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Good grief, that was probably more dangerous than actual combat.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 10:22 AM (WEBkv)

161 The thing that amuses me is that the history of Westeros is so blatantly English history.

There are a lot of articles and yootoobz explaining this FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T GET IT.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 10:23 AM (Xk4Hx)

162 I confess that as a fantasy author I never liked game of thrones. It just didn't interest me despite trying to read it. The show interests me even less. There really isn't much fantasy fiction I DO like, to be honest. I know that sounds odd but I write mine more like westerns than typical swords and sorcery or huge sweeping epics.

Currently I'm reading John Lawton's first book Blackout. He tries to write a book halfway between a police drama and Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and the book I first read of his (Then We Take Berlin) tried too hard and had a truly bizarre ending. Its been okay so far, but from what I can see the guy is grossly overpraised as an author.

And I found a Mickey Spillane book I didn't like. It wasn't a Mike Hammer story, it was a one off of a sort of James Bond-like tale in the Caribbean involving US special forces and submarines. Didn't work for me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:23 AM (39g3+)

163 If you read From Here to Eternity expecting a WWII novel will be disappointed. Jones was writing about an Army that existed pre-war in a society that saw enlisted soldiers as poor white trash.
When I first read the book in 1976 as a high schooler just prior to moving to Schofield Barracks the brutality of the story made quite an impact on me as an Army brat.
The Army actually objected to scenes in the movie depicting the treatment of prisoners in the stockade and reportedly they were toned down.

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 10:24 AM (0x00j)

164
A question for The Horde, and since this is, on average, the second-most erudite thread of the week, I thought I'd ask it here:

How do you feel about rating scales?

[ ] Strongly Likert
[ ] Likert
[ ] Not sure
[ ] Dislikert
[ ] Strongly Dislikert

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:24 AM (DMUuz)

165 I, Cladius is great. Truly. So is the sequel, Claudius the God.

They're written first person, which works well when you have an insightful narrator.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:25 AM (1UZdv)

166 CBS Sunday Morning just had the author Don Winslow on and he is a bleeding heart leftist about illegal immigration.

It is annoying when the leftist lib interviewing someone lets the interviewee say what Winslow said, something like, "they are mostly innocent hard working people," and then never question it.

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Several news media clowns are defending their coverage of the Jussie's hoax today. They just reported the facts. And the Deplorables are horrible for harping on the hoax falling apart.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 10:26 AM (+y/Ru)

167 first glance at that library's red stairs I thought ... big red tongue.

But that is silly, on closer examination, it is clearly a vagina.


but that makes sense, go into a library and come out pregnant with imaginative ideas. Or wait, that is backwards. Go in to gain knowledge, from there on can birth new concepts, then raise toddler concepts into adult communities and nations.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2019 10:27 AM (Cus5s)

168 A question for The Horde, and since this is, on average, the second-most erudite thread of the week, I thought I'd ask it here:

How do you feel about rating scales?

[ ] Strongly Likert
[ ] Likert
[ ] Not sure
[ ] Dislikert
[ ] Strongly Dislikert
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:24 AM (DMUuz)
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If the rating scale is done by one of the horde, probably worth paying attention to.

If done by MSM writers or any of the usual suspects, not worth the electrons used to create the list.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at February 17, 2019 10:27 AM (WEBkv)

169 So my question really is, in an ideal world, if you had a big enough room, would you want all your books in one glorious sanctuary or spread all throughout?
Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (ynUnH)

in an ideal.world, all the books are in one room and I have a little wheeled robot following me around with my current books being read, and a beverage.
A book valet roomba.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:27 AM (BJlbN)

170 I write mine more like westerns than typical swords and sorcery or huge sweeping epics

That's what Stephen King tried to do in The Gunslinger. And again (I think better) in Wizard and Glass.

I'd like to read more in that genre, since King wrapped his own schwanz around his ankles and fell on his face.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 10:27 AM (Xk4Hx)

171 154 Plus, who can forget the great lines from I, Claudius.

"We have arrested the conspirators, Caesar. They await trial and execution."

"Oh, by the way. Don't eat the figs."

I need to rewatch that.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:20 AM (cfSRQ)


"Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out."

And how many people advise Claudius "Trust no one"?

But I think my favorite is Livia's birthday. "Wine has made you bold, Claudius." "Lost your stutter too, I see." Sian Phillips was magnificent in that.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:27 AM (VaN/j)

172 Heres your pizza lady

and *zip* heres the pepperoni!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 10:28 AM (JFO2v)

173 I don't think they've started yet. Wedding isn't until next week."

Ok... thought it was this one. Shoulda read the content better...

Or not.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:28 AM (6qErC)

174 As for Westeros, it's a fantasy version of the War of the Roses.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at February 17, 2019 10:13 AM


Technically, it's the Wars of the Roses.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:28 AM (DMUuz)

175 It occurs to me that Graves' Livia doomed Rome by killing off all the noble Romans that got in her way.

Even Claudius turned out to be an actual fool by thinking that turning the throne over to Nero would bring back the Republic. From that point on they were consigned to the worst.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:29 AM (dSQwl)

176 172 Heres your pizza lady

and *zip* heres the pepperoni!
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 10:28 AM (JFO2v)

Cutting back on the sausage, no ??

Posted by: Lady at February 17, 2019 10:29 AM (RZ6R1)

177 How do you feel about rating scales?

I give them a four.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:29 AM (dSQwl)

178 157 beyond the Pale was used by the English to describe the barbarians on the rest of the island, including my ancestors.
You're on notice. I've been triggered.

Don't look at me. My ancestors were just there to shag redheads
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (Xk4Hx)


Isn't that exactly what Pussy Boy John Snow does? ("Pussy Boy" has been my wife's name for him since the first episode.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:29 AM (VaN/j)

179 167 first glance at that library's red stairs I thought ... big red tongue.

==

see #71

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:30 AM (BJlbN)

180 So are all the NPR types listening to REM's dogshit music again?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 10:30 AM (y7DUB)

181 I'd like to read more in that genre, since King wrapped his own schwanz around his ankles and fell on his face.

It crosses over well. Not so much the patterns of gunfights in the streets with a wand, but in the sense of a small story centered around a character facing their environment and that kind of thing. The world is one of the characters, and the story isn't some epic save the land with the maguffin thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:30 AM (39g3+)

182 At the library I picked up Clay Travis’s “Republicans Buy Sneakers Too: How the Left is Ruining Sports with Politics”. Clay, you may remember, is the guy who told CNN’s Brook Baldwin that he loves the First Amendment and boobs.

Now I am not a sports person but the infiltration of fun common pastimes by politics is one of the most bizarre and fascinating phenomena of the past decade. It used to be considered crass at best and career suicide at worst to discuss personal politics. But Clay thinks the new media drove old ESPN into irrelevancy. It used to be that fans would rush to turn on ESPN to find the scores; now they get sent right to your devices. You can even ask Alexa! So if the entire premise of your existence, highlights and breaking news, disappears, what do you do? You seek relevance in today’s angry opinion/hot take culture. Now politics may alienate advertisers, but they only seem to pull out if the politics is conservative. So it became a marriage of sports and left wing politics.

Interesting: Before he resigned for “substance abuse issues” (an extortion claim over his cocaine use), president John Skipper replaced ratings bonuses with diversity bonuses. So ESPN management was not rewarded for how well they served the viewers, but for promoting diversity.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:30 AM (kQs4Y)

183 One of my junior high English textbooks had a chapter from his book on the Boer War wherein he escapes from a Boer prison camp. Would that make the cut in today's textbooks?

https://www.history.com/news/the-daring-escape-that-forged-winston-churchill
Posted by: All Hail Eris,

Saved.

I'll read it later. Thanks !

Posted by: JT at February 17, 2019 10:31 AM (90ehy)

184 I never liked game of thrones. It just didn't interest me despite trying to read it. The show interests me even less."

Fully agree. Pop culture overlays of real history take real talent to bring to life. Grrrrrrr Martin is just blood, gore, and sex...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:31 AM (6qErC)

185 Another great bit in the TV Claudius is Caratacus' address to the Senate.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:32 AM (dSQwl)

186 A book valet roomba.
---
Yes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:33 AM (kQs4Y)

187 I'll repeat myself from last week: I am NOT looking forward to The Silver Chair movie coming out whenever. They're going to screw up Puddleglum, I just know it.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 09:56 AM

=====

Starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as everybody's favorite marshwiggle!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 09:59 AM


"Finally, The Rock has come back to Narnia!"

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:33 AM (DMUuz)

188 Rush Limbaugh on the Fox sunday morning show with Chris Wallace. On fire about the silent attempted coup by the Deep State, and more.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:34 AM (1UZdv)

189 Rush Limbaugh on the Fox sunday morning show with Chris Wallace. On fire about the silent attempted coup by the Deep State, and more.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:34 AM (1UZdv)

Yeah but what is that weasel Wallace saying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (Y+V3r)

190 I like parts of GOT, but it is too long drawn out
too many characters I don't care about at all

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (BJlbN)

191 175 It occurs to me that Graves' Livia doomed Rome by killing off all the noble Romans that got in her way.

Even Claudius turned out to be an actual fool by thinking that turning the throne over to Nero would bring back the Republic. From that point on they were consigned to the worst.
Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:29 AM (dSQwl)


That's how Graves does present it. IMO, the cause of the Republic was already lost. One thing I do not believe can happen is a genuine Restoration. There've been plenty so-called, but they never really restore.

And, BTW, to my mind referring to I, Claudius includes Claudius the God, just as the Alice books have to be read together.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (VaN/j)

192 Pepperoni and sausage? Baby I don't party like that!

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (/tuJf)

193 "Rush Limbaugh on the Fox sunday morning show with Chris Wallace. On fire about the silent attempted coup by the Deep State, and more."
-Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:34 AM (1UZdv)

Thanks! I had forgotten about his appearance.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 10:36 AM (Ckg4U)

194 The show ain't over until the blood fattened mosquito flies off.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 10:36 AM (9RkRx)

195 That book store reminds me of a ship hull from the inside.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 10:37 AM (9RkRx)

196 Grrrrrrr Martin is just blood, gore, and sex...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:31 AM


Needs rum.

Posted by: The Navy at February 17, 2019 10:37 AM (DMUuz)

197 " infiltration of fun common pastimes by politics is one of the most bizarre and fascinating phenomena of the past decade."

It's the expansion of The Borg, the unholy alliance of Academia, BigGov and co-opted corporations. The end is new kind of Fascism.

ESPN fell long ago

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:37 AM (1UZdv)

198 172 Heres your pizza lady

and *zip* heres the pepperoni!
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 10:28 AM (JFO2v)


Who else rolled a joint with the paper from Cheech and Chong's Big Bambu?

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 10:37 AM (0x00j)

199

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2019 10:37 AM (HaL55)

200 196 Grrrrrrr Martin is just blood, gore, and sex...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 10:31 AM

Needs rum.
Posted by: The Navy at February 17, 2019 10:37 AM (DMUuz)


I'm thinking of doing the whole Aubreiad again this year. But maybe Moby Dick first.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:38 AM (VaN/j)

201 I've been on a bit of a run of disappointing and meh books lately, its frustrating. But that's the price of trying new authors, sometimes you get a win but usually they are forgettable. It truly frustrates me how many blah authors get publishing contracts and even success when so many do not; There are great authors here in the horde who are very fine writers but don't see the sales and success they deserve.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:38 AM (39g3+)

202 192 Pepperoni and sausage? Baby I don't party like that!
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (/tuJf)

Me neither, it's like drinking a claret and a red at the same time. UGH

Posted by: Lady at February 17, 2019 10:38 AM (RZ6R1)

203 Rush says Climate Change is a hoax. He went there!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:39 AM (1UZdv)

204 Where is the information online to a new Narnia movie, The Silver Chair (alternate title, Puddleglum: A Life Well Lived)?

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:39 AM (ynUnH)

205 As I slog through From Here to Eternity (at this stage it's just an endurance test)

Ahoy Captain Hate !

You're STILL reading that ? Whaddaya do ? Read a page a day ?

Actually, I was hoping you'd read and reviewed that book about ghosts that was mentioned here 4 or 5 weeks ago.

I was looking forward to comments like " You call THAT a ghost ? Why, it couldn't scare the shit out of a baby with diarrhea. And the ghost was WORDY !"

Just pulling your leg a bit. Have a good one !

Posted by: JT at February 17, 2019 10:39 AM (90ehy)

206 I like parts of GOT, but it is too long drawn out
too many characters I don't care about at all
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (BJlbN)


I agree 100%, except about real life.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 10:40 AM (t+qrx)

207 It truly frustrates me how many blah authors get publishing contracts and even success when so many do not; There are great authors here in the horde who are very fine writers but don't see the sales and success they deserve.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:38 AM (39g3+)
---
Dan. Brown.

Truly, he made a pact with the Devil.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:40 AM (kQs4Y)

208 Apropos of nothing : marijuana can be very dangerous to your health when you consider that it increases your chances of developing schizophrenia later in life by 400%.

Those who may wish to brush that off with a laugh, I suspect that you've never had to live with someone with either the bi-polar condition or schizophrenia. It's the worst level of Hell when it's someone you love who's afflicted and your life is essentially ended.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at February 17, 2019 10:41 AM (xZjSg)

209 It's probably been said already, but as apt as the Maoist comparison is to today, another interesting comparison is the french revolution, which was kind of a "kill all the 1 percenters" type thing. Essentially, the patriarchy was seen as the evil that needed to be vanquished, and vanquish it they did.

Until the guillotine blade started running dry, and then it had to be replenished with the blood of "less woke" members of the revolution, until basically everyone was dead... and the 1 percenterest 1 percenters could retake the seats of power.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:41 AM (cY3LT)

210

"You're not gonna pay for that pizza are you, lady?"

There's prolly a video version of The Night He Ordered Stuffed Crust out there on that Intarwebz thingy somewhere. Maybe more than one.

Dominos Delivers...Wuv...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2019 10:42 AM (HaL55)

211 "It seems the Commie outlook is that rural living is contemptible and for
undesireables. Odd how they even think that in this country"

on a certain level of comparison, communism is just a more organized Genghis Kahn. Or it is farming the people, instead of random hunting and gathering. But it is still ruthless power and control.


In America, communism is anti-constitutional, since the founders wrote that Federal power is limited (federalism) and is to act only at the consent of the governed. That era ended, but so far, DeepState still feels obligated (to some degree) to keep up appearances, though they are getting pretty brazen with the dawn raids.


Pat Caddell really explains our dire straits in a video from Oct 2016, which someone linked here earlier. Youngest person on Nixon's enemies list ... is how I presented to my FB friends, to maybe entice the more "liberal" to listen.

https://youtu.be/qVZcGeuAjus

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2019 10:42 AM (Cus5s)

212 204 Where is the information online to a new Narnia movie, The Silver Chair (alternate title, Puddleglum: A Life Well Lived)?
Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:39 AM (ynUnH)
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https://narnia.fandom.com/wiki/ The_Chronicles_of_Narnia:_The_Silver_Chair_(film)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:42 AM (kQs4Y)

213 infiltration of fun common pastimes by politics is one of the most bizarre and fascinating phenomena of the past decade."

It's turned me off of sports almost entirely. I used to love watching sporting events. Now, as soon as I start to hear the backstories and human interest crap, I switch channels. I don't care anymore. I just...don't. Every single athlete has overcome something at some point to get where they are. I don't need to know about it and your victimhood or your cause. The drumbeat is nothing but noise to me now.

Posted by: no good deed at February 17, 2019 10:42 AM (uTY3H)

214 Apropos of nothing : marijuana can be very dangerous to your health when you consider that it increases your chances of developing schizophrenia later in life by 400%.


But but but that does not include the 4 years of college. You get a pass for that right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 10:43 AM (Y+V3r)

215 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:30 AM (kQs4Y)

ESPN is one of the worst things ever to happen to sports.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 10:43 AM (y7DUB)

216 ESPN is one of the worst things ever to happen to sports.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 10:43 AM (y7DUB)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2019 10:43 AM (Y+V3r)

217 Climate Science is akin to court astrology, which foretells the future to empower the powerful, and then brings power to the astrologers to continue divining it.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:44 AM (dSQwl)

218 To get back to OM's original post, we Elders of the Horde will recall just how glowy-eyed the libs were about Mao back in the 60s and early 70s. I knew many who really believed he was changing human nature - of course for the better. Why, high ranking officials just took it upon themselves to go out and work in the fields with the peasants. Entirely of their own accord, though inspired by Mao.

Really, they did believe that. Mao was even bigger than Fidel and Che.

I sometimes feel I'm reliving my youth; and we are working up to 1972. Then, as now, the Democrats were just taken over by the Commies. It's about the one thing that makes me still a bit hopeful. (And this time they fired the impeachment gun prematurely.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:44 AM (VaN/j)

219 I miss Sam Weller's bookstore in SLC.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2019 10:45 AM (25Dt7)

220 Dad has been complaining about "his back". He stomps around to gain attention and "limps".

He's not happy that he's not in the same bedroom as my Mom. I get that.

The fact remains that he refuses to shower and Mom would much rather sleep next to my dog, who doesn't Steal the Covers.

I made him breakfast this morning and took it to his New Room. Maybe he'll like the attention and stop grumbling about being back in the same room as Mom.

I'm just playing this stuff by ear. I know it only gets worse from here, so Eggs and Muffins doesn't seem like a bad trade-off today.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 10:46 AM (Ckg4U)

221 OM, From what folks here have described, it's too bad Alan Rickman isn't available for the Puddleglum role. I miss his acting.

Posted by: JTB at February 17, 2019 10:14 AM (bmdz3)


That would have been an interesting casting choice.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 10:46 AM (ebz3G)

222 It must be pizzapalooza day. Here a twat comparing Donkey-Chompers Barbie's take on Amazon to a customer using a coupon to buy pizzas. Barbie, that is, econ major Barbie, totally doesn't get it and responds making a fool of herself.

https://bit.ly/2GvVoiG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (+y/Ru)

223 Yeah climate change hysteria is like alchemy: its based on some rudimentary concepts of science, following a sort of ignorant playacting of the scientific method, but without any real science behind it, and constantly fighting to be one step ahead of falling out of favor with the court and being thrown out so they have to get real jobs in the private market where people expect results.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (39g3+)

224 in an ideal.world, all the books are in one room and I have a little wheeled robot following me around with my current books being read, and a beverage.

A book valet roomba.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:27 AM (BJlbN)


The problem with having all of your books in one room is this:

What if there's a fire?

All of your eggs in one basket, and all that.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (ebz3G)

225 It's probably been said already, but as apt as the Maoist comparison is to today, another interesting comparison is the french revolution, which was kind of a "kill all the 1 percenters" type thing. Essentially, the patriarchy was seen as the evil that needed to be vanquished, and vanquish it they did.

Until the guillotine blade started running dry, and then it had to be replenished with the blood of "less woke" members of the revolution, until basically everyone was dead... and the 1 percenterest 1 percenters could retake the seats of power.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:41 AM


Lately, I've been thinking the Spanish Civil War may be the history that we'll most closely 'rhyme' with.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (DMUuz)

226 Anyone remember ABC's Wide World of Sports. It was 2 hours on Saturdays that showcased all sorts of sporting events from around the world, and it inspired the original ESPN. Had they stuck with that formula they'd have been great.

Aussie football! Acapulco cliff diving! Bull riding!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (1UZdv)

227 I like parts of GOT, but it is too long drawn out
too many characters I don't care about at all
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 10:35 AM (BJlbN)


The last book left Jon Snow bleeding to death in the snow, Stannis Baratheon freezing to death, and Dany Targaryan off with one of her dragons, leaving the world behind.

So if the original author had a point to make with all this, and HBO's direction CANNOT be assumed to have been Martin's, I don't know what it was, and at this point, I couldn't possibly care less.

Just a bunch of endless sex and death, with no point. Which, if that's the point, then thanks George, we got it already.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:48 AM (cY3LT)

228 Tolle Lege
I got nothing new now for awhile, lots on my wish list.




And don't want to know what crust he's stuffing.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 10:48 AM (/rm4P)

229 Socialism is the malaria of human existence.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 17, 2019 10:48 AM (tFXr6)

230 209 It's probably been said already, but as apt as the Maoist comparison is to today, another interesting comparison is the french revolution, which was kind of a "kill all the 1 percenters" type thing. Essentially, the patriarchy was seen as the evil that needed to be vanquished, and vanquish it they did.

Until the guillotine blade started running dry, and then it had to be replenished with the blood of "less woke" members of the revolution, until basically everyone was dead... and the 1 percenterest 1 percenters could retake the seats of power.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:41 AM (cY3LT)


But the "the 1 percenterest 1 percenters" didn't take control because of the Revolution. A Corsican outsider did. And he fell because of foreign powers, not internal forces.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:48 AM (VaN/j)

231 The stuffed crust orderer doesn't seem to have any hair on his chest.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:49 AM (DMUuz)

232 Regarding casting for Puddleglum, sure, get some Shakespearian heavyweight (hey, Shatner's available!), but I would prefer a tall, skinny fellow this time, maybe with a bit -- a bit, mind you -- of a CGI assist.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:49 AM (kQs4Y)

233 P.S.: I always wear pants for this thread.

P.S. II: "Militant Normals" is an amusing book by Kurt Schlichter. His writing style is quite colloquial and I have to thank Miley for sending it to me for Christmas.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 10:49 AM (Ckg4U)

234 172 Heres your pizza lady

and *zip* heres the pepperoni!
Posted by: rhennigantx at February 17, 2019 10:28 AM (JFO2v)


That's the plot of, like, what, 85% of the pr0n movies?

(Or so I've heard)

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 10:49 AM (ebz3G)

235 Socialism is the malaria of human existence.


On that note,

The NYT does a long story about children starving to death in Venezuela.

It's the last paragraph before they utter the word 'Socialist.'

http://tinyurl.com/y94ureg3

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 10:49 AM (dSQwl)

236 Btw a number of months ago at least a couple people took my advice and started "Night Circus". If any of those people are reading this, I'm interested in finding out what you thought of it. Don't be reticent about calling me an asshole who wasted your time by recommending such a trite piece of shit, if that's how you reacted; it was kind of a strange book for me to like as much as I did.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 10:50 AM (y7DUB)

237 we Elders of the Horde will recall just how glowy-eyed the libs were about Mao back in the 60s and early 70s.

-
And Obola had a Mao ornament on his Christmas tree.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

238 Speaking of books being made into movies, casting is under way for the new Dune.
Jason Mamoa will be Duncan Idaho. Somebody named Timothee Chalomet will be Paul Atreides and Rebecca Ferguson, whoever that is, will be Lady Jessica.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (JgA4k)

239 Every year or so I stop exploring book stores and the library and settle down for a couple months by reading the books I OWN!!!

Among these are the complete works of Terry Pratchett. (well not everything and sadly in paperback and not hard cover. They'd be worth a mint if so)

The entire series of the Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan and completed after his death (done quite well BTW IMO)

The entire The Saga of Recluce series by L.E. Modesitt (rearranged from publishing order to chronological order of the time of the events in the books)

The Foreigner Series by C.J. Cherryh

The books (not a series) of The Culture written by Iain M. Banks who recently died so no more of these (sigh)

The Dune Series by Frank Herbert(only the ones actually
written by him) Plus some odds and end solo books The Dosadi Experiment and Whipping Star.

Some light weight SCI FI by John Ringo, Jack Campbell and David Drake (including two volumes of Hammer's Slammers short stories.

And then there's odds and ends that I downloaded for free from publishers.

And that takes me into spring usually.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (9RkRx)

240 It's probably been said already, but as apt as the Maoist comparison is to today, another interesting comparison is the french revolution, which was kind of a "kill all the 1 percenters" type thing. Essentially, the patriarchy was seen as the evil that needed to be vanquished, and vanquish it they did.

Until the guillotine blade started running dry, and then it had to be replenished with the blood of "less woke" members of the revolution, until basically everyone was dead... and the 1 percenterest 1 percenters could retake the seats of power.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:41 AM

Lately, I've been thinking the Spanish Civil War may be the history that we'll most closely 'rhyme' with.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (DMUuz)


I don't have a real good sense of the Spanish Civil War, because I guess, it seemed like a sideshow. The main event happened elsewhere, and while it may have seemed important to everyone at the time, it was still just Spain.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (cY3LT)

241 >>Socialism is the malaria of human existence.

Socialism is the Axe body spray of politics. Young people love it but they are too dumb to know it doesn't work.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (/tuJf)

242 GoT is pulp entertainment. And it's great at it.

Dany will die in childbirth, like the mothers of Tyrion, Jon and Dany herself.

Deus ex machina: Jon kills the Night King, so that all the Dead go back to being dead dead.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (1UZdv)

243 It is kind of anachronistic to have Romans of the Claudian era talking about "bringing back the Republic." They had a Republic -- the Republic of Rome, ruled by its Senate, which had wisely vested power in the capable hands of the Emperor. No kings there!

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (wScFY)

244 229 Socialism Progressivism is the malaria of human existence.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 17, 2019 10:48 AM (tFXr6)


Corrected for accuracy.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 10:52 AM (ebz3G)

245 Aussie football! Acapulco cliff diving! Bull riding!
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (1UZdv)

At least it gave us Cheap Seats for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr8djL4eAfg

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:52 AM (kQs4Y)

246 Daytona 500 is on today....the other 499 ended in a draw.

Posted by: saf at February 17, 2019 10:52 AM (5IHGB)

247 Socialism is the malaria of human existence.

And DDT has been banned by polite society

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:53 AM (39g3+)

248 "I have no idea what criteria the author used to compile the list"

Well, the author says "There should not be a penultimate "Best 100 Bookstores in America" list. Who could possibly know a bookstore so well as to know 100 of them? I could never trust such a list nor such a list-maker. All I can do is offer my favorites, built upon imperfect memory, for you to consider alongside your own recollections and things-held-dear. If we approached bookstores in this way, with the desire to have many various plants in a garden, and many gardens across the land, rejecting monoculture, then it would not matter what was "best" at all."

So, this is a diversity list based on her feelz. And you should visit them based on the fact that, at the time she wrote the article, she remembered liking them.

What in incredible (in the truest sense of the word) resource.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 17, 2019 10:53 AM (di1hb)

249 Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:41 AM (cY3LT)

But the "the 1 percenterest 1 percenters" didn't take control because of the Revolution. A Corsican outsider did. And he fell because of foreign powers, not internal forces.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:48 AM (VaN/j)


I was sorta speeding past the little Corsican. The after, when things kinda basically went back to how they were.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:53 AM (cY3LT)

250 Socialism is the Axe body spray of politics. Young people love it but they are too dumb to know it doesn't work.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (/tuJf)


I'm stealing this for the morning rant.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 10:53 AM (ebz3G)

251 Btw a number of months ago at least a couple people took my advice and started "Night Circus"


I'd have to reread it to tell you why I didn't like it. I read it when it first came out. I remembering wanting to like it.

Posted by: no good deed at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (uTY3H)

252
Deus ex machina: Jon kills the Night King, so that all the Dead go back to being dead dead.
Posted by: Ignoramus

I think Jon has to die when killing the Night King, just to close things up

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (25Dt7)

253 "At least it gave us Cheap Seats for a while.
-Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 10:52 AM (kQs4Y)

The Sklar Brothers are endlessly entertaining!

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (Ckg4U)

254 One thing I should confess about my dislike of GoT, which partly disqualifies me. I don't have a taste for sci-fi and fantasy, per se. Yes, there's CSL and JRRT, but they are exceptions. Like Lewis's respect for Holmes, though he didn't like detective fiction.

There are a few others I like (some of Vance, some of Wells), but for the most part, I never got bitten by the bug. For genre, I'll take fair-play mysteries, every time. (Not so big on hard boiled, though. And it's almost impossible to make it work when the detective is the narrator. Even The Thin Man was disappointing, and better on the screen.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (VaN/j)

255 We are in a kind of civil war. The Ds want open borders, but only on our southern border.

Media is the enemy. Rush just pointed out that 40% of Americans believe that the Russian hacking changed actual votes in 2016, but there's no evidence.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

256 Socialism is the Axe body spray of politics. Young people love it but they are too dumb to know it doesn't work.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM


Regarding your conclusion about its efficacy, we disagree!

Posted by: Incel 'Rons at February 17, 2019 10:55 AM (DMUuz)

257 So, pick a side. I'm looking at you, the GOP

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:55 AM (1UZdv)

258 Rush says Climate Change is a hoax. He went there!

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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 10:55 AM (+y/Ru)

259 About Churchill, Dennis Prager had Andrew Roberts on about his new biography of the great man, Churchil: Walking with Destiny, another book on my wish list.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 10:55 AM (/rm4P)

260 >>I'm stealing this for the morning rant.

Feel free. I stole it from somewhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 10:55 AM (/tuJf)

261 Irish Muff diving beats Acapulco Bull Shearing hands down,Seamus.

Posted by: saf at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM (5IHGB)

262 This country is at the incipient stage of the sort of Maoist cultural revolution in the summary of "Gang of One." We have, at the very least, the same characters and pathological states of mind which seem torn from the pages of history, and poised in positions of cultural influence and political power.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM (H8QX8)

263 We need a new Alan Rickman.
We'll probably get a new Marjoe Gortner.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

264 GoT is pulp entertainment. And it's great at it.

Dany will die in childbirth, like the mothers of Tyrion, Jon and Dany herself.

Deus ex machina: Jon kills the Night King, so that all the Dead go back to being dead dead.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (1UZdv)


As has been said a million times already, the teevee show has nothing to do with the books at this point. The author's original intent is completely lost and gone, and will never be known. If he had one.

HBO turned it into a soap opera with sex and mutilation. Which is fine, for those who like that sort of thing, but somewhere, somehow, a long long time ago, George RRRRR Martin seemed to have a different idea. Possibly a better one.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM (cY3LT)

265 And that library picture reminds me of the Hogwarts Room of Requirement.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM (/rm4P)

266 Deus ex machina: Jon kills the Night King, so that all the Dead go back to being dead dead.

There will be an epic battle at the top of Icecrown Citadel the Lich King Night King's castle and Jon Snow will take frostmourne his sword in victory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 10:57 AM (39g3+)

267 Irish Muff diving beats Acapulco Bull Shearing hands down,Seamus.
Posted by: saf at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM


Sez you!

Posted by: S. "Shep" Smith at February 17, 2019 10:57 AM (DMUuz)

268
Media is the enemy. Rush just pointed out that 40% of Americans believe that the Russian hacking changed actual votes in 2016, but there's no evidence.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

I'm beginning to think the MSM is a criminal organization.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 17, 2019 10:58 AM (JgA4k)

269 But the "the 1 percenterest 1 percenters" didn't take control because of the Revolution. A Corsican outsider did. And he fell because of foreign powers, not internal forces.
Posted by: Eeyore

The role of Russian winter in politics of the last 200 years illustrates Gaia's subtle power.

Posted by: MZB the twisted whore at February 17, 2019 10:58 AM (25Dt7)

270 So, pick a side. I'm looking at you, the GOP
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:55 AM


Bwahahahahah! They're so cute when they're young!

Posted by: The Uniparty at February 17, 2019 10:58 AM (DMUuz)

271 243 It is kind of anachronistic to have Romans of the Claudian era talking about "bringing back the Republic." They had a Republic -- the Republic of Rome, ruled by its Senate, which had wisely vested power in the capable hands of the Emperor. No kings there!
Posted by: Trimegistus at February 17, 2019 10:51 AM (wScFY)


The Romans were like us in their detestation of "kings". That didn't mean they couldn't end up with one, just that they would never have called him that. Remember, "Dictator" was not a negative term for them. If you were descended from one, it was something to be proud of. (And our founders certainly admired Cincinnatus.) And "Emperor" (Imperator) was just a name for a general who'd had a Triumph.

It's not clear we aren't headed that way. I don't see often enough a discussion of where the break point will show, when our Republic is gone for good. It certainly can happen.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:59 AM (VaN/j)

272 Media is the enemy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

Breitbart said it over and over, few listened. Take down the media, the democrats are "weak sisters" who'd never win another election. Yet republicans and even Trump's people persist in treating these poisonous lying scum who hate our guts with deference.

Hire Tammy Bruce and John Nolte as co-press secretaries and bring it on. Take on these shit birds, get in their faces.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM (H8QX8)

273 Finally, someone is reporting on Rosemary Collyer's FISA report from almost 2 years ago.

Sidney Powell is laying it out to Sheryl Attkisson.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM (/tuJf)

274 225
Lately, I've been thinking the Spanish Civil War may be the history that we'll most closely 'rhyme' with.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 10:47 AM (DMUuz)


I know very little about that. 'Spect I should read up on it. Any recommendations?

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM (sdi6R)

275 On the Game of Thrones (the books).

I read them and started collecting them until The Fat Bastard got distracted or something and quit writing them after 5 books leaving me hanging for quite a few years.

So it was with anger and angst that he came out with more when the series was taken up by TV. (never seen, never will)

And then the Fat Bastard started running his mouth politically and that was it. I don't even bother to gather what I have together or reread it. F**k HIM the FAT BASTARD!

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 11:02 AM (9RkRx)

276 Let me tell you about bad air. Whew. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at February 17, 2019 11:02 AM (Tyii7)

277 263 We need a new Alan Rickman.
We'll probably get a new Marjoe Gortner.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)


OK, let me see if I can spiff this one up a bit:

You want: a new Alan Rickman
You'll settle for: a new Heath Ledger
You'll get: a new Marjoe Gortner

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 11:02 AM (ebz3G)

278 Sidney Powell is laying it out to Sheryl Attkisson.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM (/tuJf)

We're just talking to each other.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 17, 2019 11:02 AM (H8QX8)

279 I agree about GOT. I got so pissed off at the author because he never tied up one single story line. I hate the format with every chapter being a different character so there is no continuity. I was especially mad that I read all 5 books.
The perfect example of an author writing the perfect series that brings all the storylines together, like he had an actual plan before writing the books, instead of making it up as he went along, is Asimov;s Foundation trilogy.Someone told me that R.R. Martin hired one of his syncophants to actually keep track of his characters because he couldn't. Also, none of the maps in the book make sense.

Posted by: sharon at February 17, 2019 11:03 AM (QzF6i)

280 Media is the enemy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

Breitbart said it over and over, few listened. Take down the media, the democrats are "weak sisters" who'd never win another election. Yet republicans and even Trump's people persist in treating these poisonous lying scum who hate our guts with deference.

Hire Tammy Bruce and John Nolte as co-press secretaries and bring it on. Take on these shit birds, get in their faces.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM (H8QX


There's a whole swath of media that is building up, and will eventually supplant what currently passes for media.

Twitter is circling the drain. Teevee media is all but dead already. Newspapers and magazines? What are those?

Get online, find out where the kids are. That's your next big thing, that's where the trends will be set. Here's a hint: it ain't Sunday morning teevee shows.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:03 AM (cY3LT)

281 272 Media is the enemy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

Breitbart said it over and over, few listened. Take down the media, the democrats are "weak sisters" who'd never win another election. Yet republicans and even Trump's people persist in treating these poisonous lying scum who hate our guts with deference.

Hire Tammy Bruce and John Nolte as co-press secretaries and bring it on. Take on these shit birds, get in their faces.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM (H8QX

If the media were honest the Democrats would be dead in the water, or be forced to back away from their derangement.
Hillary would probably be in jail.
Leftwing violence would be out in the open.
It would be a different world.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 17, 2019 11:04 AM (JgA4k)

282 The role of Russian winter in politics of the last 200 years illustrates Gaia's subtle power.
Posted by: MZB the twisted whore at February 17, 2019 10:58 AM (25Dt7)


I'd put the RN first among his nemeses. But Russian 2nd. Well, that's assuming you don't put his own ego first, which is quite arguably true.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:04 AM (VaN/j)

283 Trump is playing to win in 2020, then the gloves come off.

Unlike most Presidents, he'll be stronger in his second term than his first.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:04 AM (1UZdv)

284 272 Media is the enemy.
Posted by: Ignoramus

I told you.

Posted by: Stalin at February 17, 2019 11:05 AM (25Dt7)

285 The role of Russian winter in politics of the last 200 years illustrates Gaia's subtle power.
Posted by: MZB the twisted whore at February 17, 2019 10:58 AM (25Dt7)

I'd put the RN first among his nemeses. But Russian 2nd. Well, that's assuming you don't put his own ego first, which is quite arguably true.
Posted by: Eeyore

The Russian winter also shaped the purges and gulags of International Communism and hammered Nationalist Socialism.

Posted by: Stalin at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (25Dt7)

286 272 Media is the enemy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (1UZdv)


I even saw one of the pussy-cons say that we're seeing "an extinction level event" in the Pravda Media. If even some political trannies can see it, how can they all be so blind?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (VaN/j)

287 I have gotten a new respect for physical books from reading this blog. I have started a modest library. I have the sneaking suspicion that since almost everything is online now our elite betters are 1 click away from going full 1984 and memory holing anything they disapprove of.

Its harder to do that with physical books without going the fahrenheit 451 route. I never thought there would come a day when I added stacks of books to racks of guns, crates of ammo and hoarded food supplies, but yet here we are.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not after you.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (cCxiu)

288 Willowed?

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (25Dt7)

289 Rome wasn't really a write off after Claudius, Nero was an amazingly talented and incredible human being. He just was a terrible emperor. Should have never been in power.

But after him there were a few decent emperors, such as Marcus Aurelias. It was overall a downward spiral but Rome reached great heights still, and had a few bright points in its collapse, like the USA with Trump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (39g3+)

290 "it ain't Sunday morning teevee shows."

They set-up the MSM stories for the week. It's like being a fly on the wall.

Also, Morning Joe often gets the talking points early.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (1UZdv)

291 Hi, I'm a lurker who has been trying to join your goodreads group. I'm mostly a sci fi fan, but can be turned.

Posted by: Quilp at February 17, 2019 11:08 AM (Bf3hj)

292 I don't see often enough a discussion of where the break point will show, when our Republic is gone for good."

FDR.

Viewing the past is a bit... compressing of timelines. The period between "republic" and "federation" may be as long, or longer than the republic period. Future historians will pick one point tho, and say "ah ha"....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 11:08 AM (6qErC)

293 I'm beginning to think the MSM is a criminal organization.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at February 17, 2019 10:58 AM (JgA4k)


At the very least, the FEC should treat most newspaper articles and TV news shows as in-kind contributions to the Democratic Party.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 11:09 AM (ebz3G)

294 I have the sneaking suspicion that since almost everything is online now our elite betters are 1 click away from going full 1984 and memory holing anything they disapprove of.

The arc of entertainment and history lately suggests this is highly probable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 11:09 AM (39g3+)

295
Hire Tammy Bruce and John Nolte as co-press secretaries and bring it on. Take on these shit birds, get in their faces.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's

Chris Plante for some spice

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2019 11:09 AM (25Dt7)

296 A couple of weekends ago, a commenter on a different blog linked to a longish article by Robert Caro on his research done while writing his bio of Lyndon Johnson. The article was interesting enough to make me start reading the actual bio. I've now read the first 2 books covering up to his first election as Senator and WOW! That Johnson was one heck of a corrupt person.

He was corrupt in his elections even when he didn't have to be. And he relished in his corruptness. After he won his senate election in '48, he went around telling this joke: "A little Mexican boy found his friend Jose sitting on the corner crying. 'Why are you crying? ' asked Jesus. Jose said that his father hadn't visited him on the previous Saturday. 'But your father has been dead for 10 years,' said Jesus. Jose responded 'He came to town last Saturday and voted for Johnson but he wouldn't come visit me.'" Johnson told that joke. Repeatedly. And to reporters.

Posted by: Three and One at February 17, 2019 11:10 AM (a/45y)

297 288 Willowed?

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2019 11:07 AM (25Dt7)


I hope not. The day is still early.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 11:10 AM (ebz3G)

298 271
It's not clear we aren't headed that way. I don't see often enough a discussion of where the break point will show, when our Republic is gone for good. It certainly can happen.
Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 10:59 AM (VaN/j)


I think we're already past that point. The Republic died in 1913 with the 16th and 17th Amendments, and the establishment of the Federal Reserve. Then the Federal government began amassing power that had previously belonged to the states.

FDR accelerated the process. In more recent years, Congress has steadily ceded power to the Executive and Judicial branches. They created agencies that issue regulations with the force of law. They could rein in those agencies or even abolish them, but they don't. They could impeach rogue Hawaiian judges, but they don't. They haven't passed a real budget in years.

All we need is a President who will drop the pretense and rule by decree. And no matter who it is, half the country will enthusiastically support him.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:12 AM (sdi6R)

299 Back to the sorting question, my wife and I have talked about, if we had a house big enough, there'd be a room each for hers, mine, and ours. But of course cookbooks are in the kitchen (99% hers).

Mine, for instance, would include all the navy stuff, except O'Brian, which she likes too. Austin would be for both of us. Sort of that way.

But then the question arises of how to sort each? I want all Lewis together, fiction and non-fiction alike. And what of premodern books? Does it really make sense to separate "lit" from "chronicle"? Even with modern era, it's tough to draw a line between general history and military. (I do separate history into pre-and post sailing era.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:12 AM (VaN/j)

300 Twitter is circling the drain. Teevee media is all but dead already. Newspapers and magazines? What are those? "

Over the last 2 or 3 years, I've come to believe that the ONLY audience for the supposedly "important" Sunday morning talking head shows is the same audience that lives on twitter - inside the beltway idealogues and political junkies. In my normal, everyday life, I can say honestly that I do not know a single person who follows twitter, or who would ever dream of turning on one of those shows. They are so far removed from our lives that they may as well be coming from another planet.

But everyone who's one them believes that the Entire Nation is hanging on their every word. They don't get how irrelevant they are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:13 AM (V2Yro)

301 I know very little about that. 'Spect I should read up on it. Any recommendations?

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I have two. Begin with this six part BBC documentary available on YouTube

https://bit.ly/2SHXfrc

Then Stanley Payne's The Spanish Civil War.

Caution: It does rhyme with today and is therefore scary as hell.

I recommend the YouTube first to get an overview on the incredibly complex political situation with numerous acronymed parties you may have difficulty keeping track of such as the "Radical Republicans" who were, in fact, a law abiding center right party.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)

302 Btw a number of months ago at least a couple people took my advice and started "Night Circus"


I'd have to reread it to tell you why I didn't like it. I read it when it first came out. I remembering wanting to like it.
Posted by: no good deed at February 17, 2019 10:54 AM (uTY3H)


Thanks for your comment. It might be as simple as a writer's approach works for some people and not others. I found the characters well fleshed out in dealing with ethereal aspects of their existence. Another writer might have made me roll my eyes and just stop reading.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 17, 2019 11:13 AM (y7DUB)

303 He was corrupt in his elections even when he didn't have to be. And he relished in his corruptness. After he won his senate election in '48, he went around telling this joke: "A little Mexican boy found his friend Jose sitting on the corner crying. 'Why are you crying? ' asked Jesus. Jose said that his father hadn't visited him on the previous Saturday. 'But your father has been dead for 10 years,' said Jesus. Jose responded 'He came to town last Saturday and voted for Johnson but he wouldn't come visit me.'" Johnson told that joke.
Repeatedly. And to reporters.

Posted by: Three and One at February 17, 2019 11:10 AM (a/45y


Here's another one he used to tell: a bunch of Dem campaign workers were in a local cemetery collecting names for one of their voting drives, and they come across a gravestone too eroded too be read. But Johnson insisted they try harder to get the name because "that guy has a right to vote, same as everybody else."

Sam Donaldson told that story on the ABC Sunday morning news show.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 11:14 AM (ebz3G)

304 If some of you reading readers want to read something topical and kind of mind bending, Rosemary Collyer's FISA abuse report from the fall of 2016 which was declassified in the spring of 2017.

The key to breaking a real life spy thriller and it's all true.

https://tinyurl.com/y2v2s38n

When this finally gets unredacted the balloon is going up.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 11:14 AM (/tuJf)

305 292 I don't see often enough a discussion of where the break point will show, when our Republic is gone for good."

FDR.

Viewing the past is a bit... compressing of timelines. The period between "republic" and "federation" may be as long, or longer than the republic period. Future historians will pick one point tho, and say "ah ha"....
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 11:08 AM (6qErC)


Are you saying the Constitutional Republic the Founders built is gone for good? Because that is my meaning in that question. At what point do we decide Octavian is the least bad option.

I ask because, again, I do not believe there is any going back.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:15 AM (VaN/j)

306 We've had a lot of bad things happen that were buried by Media.

e.g., Deepthroat Doug Feit-- #2 at the FBI -- took down Nixon out of personal pique and to protect the prerogatives of the FBI.

e.g., LBJ lied us into a huge expansion in Vietnam with the lie of the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

When's its a Republican plot or fuck up we learn all about it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:15 AM (1UZdv)

307 Joe Biden in Germany.

America...is an embarrassment.

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 11:16 AM (0x00j)

308 It is kind of anachronistic to have Romans of the Claudian era talking about "bringing back the Republic."

Indeed. Someone wrote a history as early as Augustus calling Brutus and Cassius "the last of the Romans"; Tiberius had that historian executed. How dare anyone suggest that the Princeps was not protecting Roman liberties!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 11:16 AM (Xk4Hx)

309 LBJ was a Mob Don with a funny accent.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 11:16 AM (RuIsu)

310 The Republic is gone for good when all law and control is vested in one person and that person is not elected by the citizens. The Roman Empire started with Augustus being approved by the Senate as Caesar and then afterwards taking anything he suggested as law and enacting it.

Augustus was also unique in that he was married to Livia a very astute and political woman. She aimed to put her son Tiberius and (so it is said) managed to murder all of the other possible heirs. Who knows what the Empire would've been like if one of the other heirs gained the Throne when Augustus "Died" (Livia was a known poisoner and it's suspected she did Augustus in) Tiberius took throne and he was a disaster.

Livia was one of these called "strong women" these days which means she was a manipulating bitch but she did get things done that she wanted done. She poisoned literally dozens and she poisoned the mind of Augustus for decades.

When we get to a hereditary Chief of State (or even one supposedly elected but keeps on being elected) that's when you'll know that the United States no longer exists as a Republic.

Hopefully we'll (the human race) will be colonizing the planets and they will organize politically and tell the Earth to FO.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 11:16 AM (9RkRx)

311 As a fair student of Napoleon's Russian campaign would say largely unknown is his army was decimated by the small battles and long distances during the summer months in horses alone.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 11:17 AM (/rm4P)

312 The last remaining shred of the Republic is the Electoral College. The rest is long gone.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:18 AM (sdi6R)

313 And the Spanish Civil War did have additional players in Nazi Germany and the Soviet union, couldn't see that happen here.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 11:19 AM (/rm4P)

314 I want to thank the fellow moron who recommended storing your shaving razor in alcohol between uses to keep the blade sharp. It works!

I filled a small tupperware container about 1/3 with rubbing alcohol and used it to store my Harry's razor with a new blade for the past 5 weeks now.

The blade still performs like new. To put it to the test, I skipped 2 days of shaving which gives me stubble the likes of which can only be found on the inner thighs of the FAB herself-thick, tough and dark.

Using my properly stored blade, it cut though the FAB stubble like butter. Usually, after this much time there would be no way to get through a 2 day stubble with a two or three week old blade without a lot of pain, discomfort ad having to change to a new blade.

I once again profit from the combined knowledge and wisdom of the horde collective.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 17, 2019 11:20 AM (Z+IKu)

315 "But everyone who's one them believes that the Entire Nation is hanging on their every word. They don't get how irrelevant they are."

They create the Narrative. And it's Influential. More for what gets left out.

Which is why Trump on Twitter has been an important but incomplete counter.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:20 AM (1UZdv)

316 I know very little about that. 'Spect I should read up on it. Any recommendations?
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:00 AM


I was in the same place a few months ago. The more I've read, the more 'rhyming' similarities there seem to be.

A big problem is that many of the books are written from the point of view, or sympathy with, the Internationales (i.e. Commies). Not a bad thing per se (many scoff at Zinn; I enjoyed his "People's History ..." because he chronicles many things you don't read in histories, and I found it relatively easy to separate out his 'progressive editorial' commentary), but it's more difficult to find balance.

Unfortunately, I've got to run, so would a comment next week with a list (and short thoughts) be ok?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 11:20 AM (DMUuz)

317 I've heard some say the Republic as United Separate Sovereigns ended with the Civil War.

That's when Federalism took a giant leap of power over all the rest.

I'd say it was at least the beginning of the end of the Republic and we're entering the end of the end of the Republic now.

We many prevent a Strong Man ruled nation but probably not without some blood.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 11:21 AM (9RkRx)

318 Cremutius Cordus is the guy. Suetonius doesn't name him but Tacitus does. Of course Tacitus does

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 11:22 AM (Xk4Hx)

319 I'm reading Medieval People by Eileen Power. It's an entertaining book and well written

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 17, 2019 11:22 AM (Lqy/e)

320 How dare anyone suggest that the Princeps was not protecting Roman liberties!
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 17, 2019 11:16 AM


Come 2024, it'll be the Triceps protecting American liberties!

Posted by: Moochele at February 17, 2019 11:23 AM (DMUuz)

321 310
Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 11:16 AM (9RkRx)


Surely an oligarchy is just as likely a fate. Of course either would retain many of the trappings of our republic. (And remember, republics can be oligarchic, as can monarchies.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:23 AM (VaN/j)

322 Twitter is circling the drain. Teevee media is all but dead already. Newspapers and magazines? What are those? "
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Over the last 2 or 3 years, I've come to believe that the ONLY audience for the supposedly "important" Sunday morning talking head shows is the same audience that lives on twitter - inside the beltway idealogues and political junkies. In my normal, everyday life, I can say honestly that I do not know a single person who follows twitter, or who would ever dream of turning on one of those shows. They are so far removed from our lives that they may as well be coming from another planet.

But everyone who's one them believes that the Entire Nation is hanging on their every word. They don't get how irrelevant they are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:13 AM (V2Yro)


Exactly.

Which is why it FEELS like we're living in a progressive nightmare, and that goes for those of us who hang around this here site as well, in that the "progressive" left is so dominant across the board.

Except we're not, and they aren't. So what's going on?

My best guess, and it's only a guess, is that "culture" is so fragmented in our modern world, there can be all sorts of parallel worlds operating within this one, and when they do come together, for things like elections, the results aren't what one might expect, if one is not paying enough attention to all the various forces going on around them.

I think 2020 will be even more of a shock than 2016, because the wave of newcomers to the voting rolls are NOT buying the lefty indoctrination bullshit, like the most recent millennials did.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:24 AM (cY3LT)

323 Jose responded 'He came to town last Saturday and voted for Johnson but he wouldn't come visit me.'" Johnson told that joke. Repeatedly. And to reporters."

In years past, when I talked to older people who had lived while Johnson was a "big deal" in Texas, I think I was able to get an understanding of why he rose so high. Of course, all of the reality was airbrushed out of the "official" portrait by a fawning media.

Johnson never fooled anyone - everyone KNEW he was corrupt. (in fact there's very good evidence that he ordered at least a couple of murders in state of bothersome opponents, and his allies used their power to officially kill the investigations) BUT he was the epitome of the old-time pol, good at things that every politician today seems to have forgotten. Yes, Johnson was shamelessly corrupt, Johnson stole everything he could get his hands on all the way through his career. BUT he had the old-time sense to realize that he always had to give a high percentage of what he stole to his supporters - to him, Theft was a way to gain power.

And so, he viciously punished his enemies, but lavishly rewarded his supporters, cutting them all in for huge portions of the wealth. And the bigger he got, the bigger his rewards - why did NASA end up in Houston, with all of its related technological rewards? Johnson put it there, to reward his supporters who made billions from it. Who gave the oil and gas business in the 50's one of the most favorable tax structures of any industry? Johnson, and the oil business of the day reacted by kicking back huge amounts straight to him and his machine. (amazing that the left has abandoned the Oil Biz after Johnson bought and paid for it)

Johnson knew that Theft was always going to be just fine in a democracy, AS LONG AS a majority of the voters were allowed to get a cut of whatever you stole. And that was the key to his power, and everyone at the time knew it.

It's also the explanation as to why he was so desperate to grab a veneer of Moral Justification by grabbing on to the Civil Rights bandwagon in his later years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:25 AM (V2Yro)

324 At least ace has the safari hijack advertiser still! Those guys are loyal!

Posted by: blaster at February 17, 2019 11:25 AM (tftl8)

325 I just finished reading the Passage trilogy by Justin Cronin.

I thought it was pretty good. Not a bad read. It takes the time to flesh out all the characters.

I'm starting a new book today. The Longest Line on the Map: The United States, the Pan-American Highway, and the Quest to Link the Americas by Eric Rutkow. I bought the hardback version because of the maps and pics.

Posted by: mpfs, Happy, happy, joy, joy at February 17, 2019 11:26 AM (K6w/8)

326 Cremutius Hordicus, should use that as a nic

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 11:26 AM (/rm4P)

327 You're a good son Slapweasel.

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 11:26 AM (0x00j)

328 Joe Biden's an embarrassment.

Posted by: JuJuBee at February 17, 2019 11:27 AM (L31Sa)

329 For those of you who have been living under a rock for the last few months, James Woods has a summary.
James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Nigerians and fake nooses, MAGA hats and a #CraftyBeaver. #CowFarts and trains to Hawaii. A lying Senator saying she's a Cherokee. A #HeelsUp Senator sleeping her way to the bottom. Congresswoman married her own brother? Governor in a KKK robe. Ah, #Democrats!!! Gotta love 'em!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

330 Is there a good biography of John Moses Browning? Seems like an American hero and legend like that should have at least one book about his life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 11:27 AM (39g3+)

331 319 I'm reading Medieval People by Eileen Power. It's an entertaining book and well written
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 17, 2019 11:22 AM (Lqy/e)


Agreed. The chapter that most sticks with me is the first, in which she shows how many things DIDN'T change, so people - at least the well-off ones - could think things weren't all that different. Of course, in many ways, the barbarians did try to retain some of the Roman order. (On the continent, not in Britain.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:27 AM (VaN/j)

332 On the rare occasions I pay attention to pop culture, I shudder to think that people who like/love the crap that is praised are also entitled to vote and do.

I was amazed that Trump won (I know right. Big surprise) due to the way I perceived all the mind numbed robots being so enamored by her supposed incandescent braininess and political wit.

Turns out she has neither and even the left didn't like her enough. Or trust. One of the two.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 17, 2019 11:28 AM (9RkRx)

333

"Pravda Media"

Or "Progda" for short. Anything we can do to hasten its demise, we should do con mucho gusto. I personally like the idea of carrying a device that can change the channels on public TVs surreptitiously.


Took B'Gal to one of her daktaris a few weeks ago and they had two giant TVs. When The View came on, I immediately asked the receptionist for the remote to turn it to a different channel. She chuckled when I said that was the absolute last thing we wanted to see or hear: B'Gal's already ill.

OK, life beckons. Y'all try to behave. Don't forget the race starts at 2:30.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2019 11:29 AM (HaL55)

334 322
I think 2020 will be even more of a shock than 2016, because the wave of newcomers to the voting rolls are NOT buying the lefty indoctrination bullshit, like the most recent millennials did.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:24 AM (cY3LT)


I sure hope you're right about that, because I think 2020 will be a nightmare from which we will not wake up.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:29 AM (sdi6R)

335 I've read that GoT ends with a song.

That all the surviving characters of the final battle, wearily gather together, stand proud and erect

then sing-





John Snow (ah-ah-ah)
Fighter of the Night King (ah-ah-ah)
Champion of the Sun (ah-ah-ah)
He's a Master of Karate
And Friendship
For Everyone!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 11:30 AM (CRRq9)

336 "But everyone who's one them believes that the Entire Nation is hanging on their every word. They don't get how irrelevant they are."
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They create the Narrative. And it's Influential. More for what gets left out.

Which is why Trump on Twitter has been an important but incomplete counter.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:20 AM (1UZdv)


That's the point though. They create "the narrative," for those who are paying attention to "the narrative."

There are great wide swaths of this country and this world who are not only NOT paying any attention to the narrative, they have an active disdain for it.

And that group skews quite young. Find out where they are, what they are paying attention to, and you'll see where this whole thing is going.

The modern left is already dead. The corpse is still moving around, and is a force to be reckoned with, until it rots away, but it has already shot its wad.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:30 AM (cY3LT)

337 Checked this mornings Trump Tweets, which include:

THE RIGGED AND CORRUPT MEDIA IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:31 AM (1UZdv)

338 They are so far removed from our lives that they may as well be coming from another planet.

But everyone who's one them believes that the Entire Nation is hanging on their every word. They don't get how irrelevant they are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:13 AM (V2Yro)


While I hope you're right, I'm not so sure. We did get our asses kicked in November. Sure, they cheated, but they always do. And that was despite the Kavanaugh bump we supposedly got.

Many voters seem to just absorb a general aura of Orange Man Bad, and Republicans Evil, without really learning a lot.

I have no doubt that is dying. But will it die soon enough?

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:32 AM (VaN/j)

339 Clay makes the point that technology drove the commonality of pop culture in the 20th Century and it is driving the fragmentation in this century. If the show is broadcast at a particular time it has to appeal to a wide audience. TV, radio, and newspapers made money by not antagonizing huge swathes of society. Now it can target a particular audience and it is accessed at the convenience of the user. "We've given up the shared experiences of the twentieth century, we've all become our own media islands."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 11:34 AM (kQs4Y)

340 If malaria literally means "bad air", what does Bulgaria mean?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2019 11:35 AM (m45I2)

341 It's also the explanation as to why he was so desperate to grab a veneer of Moral Justification by grabbing on to the Civil Rights bandwagon in his later years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:25 AM (V2Yro)


Like a lot of good politicians, Johnson was a sociopath. Not a fake one, a real one.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:36 AM (cY3LT)

342 The Narrative is all over social media. That's what the kids see.

And for the good people who lead normal lives, not hearing what gets left out of the Narrative is the biggest influence of all.

e.g. my relatives won't believe the Silent Coup when it comes from me, because if I was right they;d have heard about it, right?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:36 AM (1UZdv)

343 If malaria literally means "bad air", what does Bulgaria mean?

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Fat air.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)

344 even our founders had a degree of elitism built in, with the vote being for landowners. It really makes sense to have only contributing members of society voting. The tactic of flooding the voting roles with welfare recipients is effective but suicidal.


Reversing that is probably impossible at this point, without some dramatic events. That Caddell link I put above ... he talks about the need for the people to rise up, legal methods then whatever means necessary. He believed the American people will not just roll over. ... and that the Hillary crimes (Uranium One and more) are the worst in our history.


yet the coup continues ... so outcome still uncertain.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2019 11:36 AM (Cus5s)

345 James Woods also links to a retroactively hilarious GQ tweet. Way to stick your neck out, assholes.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 11:37 AM (dSQwl)

346 When we get to a hereditary Chief of State (or even one supposedly elected but keeps on being elected) that's when you'll know that the United States no longer exists as a Republic."

One big difference in the Roman situation and today's is that Roman politics were the politics of one city alone, Rome. No other cities in the Empire were prominent enough to have any say, and the communications lag due to the (lack of) technology took them out of any political contention.

Washington likes to think of itself that way, but it's a lie. D.C. is a parasite that only survives by draining the wealth of others - it has absolutely no productive capacity of its own. If it is ever cut off, it dies very quickly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:38 AM (V2Yro)

347 Twitter and the news media are an echo chamber, and Twitter is doing everything it can to reinforce that bubble. For them its a business decision, if the blue checks leave they turn into AOL chat or Myspace.

But they report stuff in the news, then talk about that news report on social media, which makes it seem to them like there's all this buzz and reinforcement for their narrative, so they report on it more and tweet on it more and....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 11:40 AM (39g3+)

348 I think 2020 will be even more of a shock than 2016, because the wave of newcomers to the voting rolls are NOT buying the lefty indoctrination bullshit, like the most recent millennials did.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:24 AM (cY3LT)

I sure hope you're right about that, because I think 2020 will be a nightmare from which we will not wake up.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:29 AM (sdi6R)

Comparing 2020 to 2018, the big difference MIGHT be due to lots of people not caring, because their perception is that Congress is essentially useless, which it is.

So the raw number of voters who didn't bother is rather huge, and more of those people will be out in 2020. They won't trend Democrat. I don't doubt that at all.

Do you see people being energized by Cory Boiker? Kamalatoe Harris? Amy Fraublucher?

I sure don't, and this Demoncrat House mess is not even yet begun to tear itself apart.

They're making Trump look more rational and sane, with each new utterance.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:41 AM (cY3LT)

349 At a waterpark this yesterday...saw someone reading the Joe Biden book....I laffed

Posted by: A dude in MI at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (OOH1c)

350 While I hope you're right, I'm not so sure. We did get our asses kicked in November. Sure, they cheated, but they always do. And that was despite the Kavanaugh bump we supposedly got.

Many voters seem to just absorb a general aura of Orange Man Bad, and Republicans Evil, without really learning a lot."

Don't forget that in the last election, a big part of the so-called "Republican Party" was cheerleading a loss and trying to help the other side. We have to root out the corruption and mendacity on our own side before we can even start to figure out bigger problems. Example, why was the recent CR so crappy when it came to the wall? Because Mitch McConnell wanted it to be crappy, because he still answers for the GOP-e which still wants open borders.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (V2Yro)

351 Who leaked on Jeff Bezos? All fingers point to the brother of his girlfriend.

My inner Colombo smells a blackmail plot by the brother. Was girlfriend Sanchez in on it? She fits the type.

So Bezos went public with it, and is now doubling down by blaming Trump and the Saudis.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

352 346
Washington likes to think of itself that way, but it's a lie. D.C. is a parasite that only survives by draining the wealth of others - it has absolutely no productive capacity of its own. If it is ever cut off, it dies very quickly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:38 AM (V2Yro)


I still like the idea of spreading the headquarters of Federal agencies around the country. Put the EPA headquarters in Alaska, and HHS in Detroit. That would make those government jobs less appealing, and could rescue the MD and VA suburbs from being lockstep Democrat.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:43 AM (sdi6R)

353 At a waterpark this yesterday...saw someone reading the Joe Biden book....I laffed
Posted by: A dude in MI at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (OOH1c)

...carefully sounding out each word, a puzzled frown on his face, no doubt.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 17, 2019 11:43 AM (jo0+f)

354 Bancer that "Imperial Cruise" book is sitting under papers on my desk here - guy I know gave it to me (he got it somewhere for free). Thanks for the warning. I've wildly speculated that Bradley, rightly famous for "Flags of Our Fathers", has spent his time since "atoning" for that powerful patriotic (and true) story (assuming he's a leftard).


"Flyboys" spent a lot of the first 70 pages or so, as I recall, weaving a ridiculous and unpersuasive moral equivalence tale, presumably to soften the blow on the reader of his actual story, about Japanese military brutality. Almost stopped reading it. The herculean efforts of so, so many western writers and people to distort history to cloud real moral distinctions - in which an imperfect west is nonetheless vastly the better, and the hero in effect - is amazing.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 11:43 AM (QDnY+)

355 Agree with rickl, Public Leftist Seminaries graduate students every day, only a matter of time we will be overcome by Leftism.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 11:45 AM (/rm4P)

356 At a waterpark this yesterday...saw someone reading the Joe Biden book....I laffed
Posted by: A dude in MI at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (OOH1c)


Where in Michigan?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 11:45 AM (t+qrx)

357 Just started "Struggle for the Middle Sea" by Vincent O'Hara - history of the Med in WWII.


Looks promising. His style is somewhat clipped and direct, not much fluff, but I think he has an interesting approach of trying to approach all questions in a fresh way, not just absorbing conventional wisdom.


Read another book of his, "Torch", about the North African invasion, was good, and similar.


Almost like relaxing after slogging through two eastern front books.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 11:46 AM (QDnY+)

358 The Narrative is all over social media. That's what the kids see.

And for the good people who lead normal lives, not hearing what gets left out of the Narrative is the biggest influence of all.

e.g. my relatives won't believe the Silent Coup when it comes from me, because if I was right they;d have heard about it, right?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:36 AM (1UZdv)


Tweeter is where all the media types are. Where all the old people are. Sorry, it's just true.

"Social media" consists of lots and lots of sites that aren't tweeter, and what is going on on those sites is NOT the narrative.

There are wide swaths of the internet, where the active disdain for leftism is driving the leftists nuts. They HATE the youtubers, they think Tik Tok is the scourge of society. Same with instagram, reddit, and all the other places I never heard of, where young people are mocking the left day after day after day. They're not NOT paying attention. They're seeing what the left is doing on "old" social media, and they're seeing it as a joke. Because it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

359 Bulgaria = Wheat Air?

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 17, 2019 11:48 AM (RuIsu)

360 That Cathy Abreu, who usually appears on Tucker's Liberal Sherpa segment was just on MediaBuzz. She had this AOC eyes, and imho, she is on some kind of medication. These fuckers are scary.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at February 17, 2019 11:48 AM (NjJUT)

361 349 At a waterpark this yesterday...saw someone reading the Joe Biden book....I laffed
Posted by: A dude in MI at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (OOH1c)
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Were his lips moving as he read?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 11:48 AM (kQs4Y)

362 Is autocorrect even useful, or does it ever work properly? Must've been developed by the government.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at February 17, 2019 11:51 AM (NjJUT)

363 Agree with rickl, Public Leftist Seminaries graduate students every day, only a matter of time we will be overcome by Leftism.
Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 11:45 AM (/rm4P)


I think you're describing a wave that has already hit the beach, crashed with all its fury, and is now receding back into the waters, swallowed up and spent.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (cY3LT)

364 Funny - even CNN is starting to report that the Justin Smollett story looks like a hoax, meaning that the Jig is Up.

but it's been pointed out the filing a false report is only a $10k fine, no jailtime. So even if they go that far, Smollett will write a check, everyone will then pretend it never happened, and they all go on like before.

Reading between the lines, it looked like the Chicago Police arrested the brothers on charges of attacking Smollett, and their defense was "hey, we never attacked him, and we just went up there and handed him that rope and stuff because he paid us a few thousand dollars to do it." No crime there on their part.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (V2Yro)

365 (too long, don't read)

Do you have what it takes to be a Democrat?

Are you unhappy with your life and wish everyone was as miserable as you? Does the thought of higher number of people working at a paying job depress you? Does the thought of them getting a cut in taxes and bringing home more money of their own pay make you irate? Do you wish you could take as much as 90% of some persons pay and spread that wealth around? Do you daily make so little effort to exercise or move around that a vegan diet works for you and think therefor it should work for everyone? Are you willing to actively work to remove alternative sources of protein that offend you out of the hands of everyone? Are you dissatisfied with an electric grid that provides you with dependable power for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and have some romantic notion that undependable sources of power are the answer? Do you ignore the walls and fences and barriers around prisons, homes, power sources, airports and think that the idea of any sort of barrier to drug merchants, human trafficking, and returning felons on our southern border is abhorrent? Do you have a quaint notion that plane travel is bad and returning to the frequent stops and starts of rail travel, despite those severe limitations, is a good use of tax dollars? Are you offended that jails are full of people, and perhaps some of them are not guilty, and therefor all jails are bad? Perhaps think that people who died more then a hundred years or so therefor entitle others to reparations, paid for by people who weren't even alive when the initial event happened? Are you convinced that despite the human heart beginning to beat as early as six weeks after conception, that abortion should be extended to the third term and perhaps beyond? Do you think that people should be unable to defend their homes, their business, their families with guns? Are you upset that people may disagree with you - and do you vehemently want their voices silenced? Are you convinced that a country that spends a trillion dollars more then it takes in has the financial means to provide free college and free medical care for all? Do you believe some or all of this while truly believing you're a good person?

You're not. You're historically illiterate, deficient in thought processing. Your romantic ideas and quaint notions belong in third world countries - keeping their third world status intact. Please go there to be happy.

Posted by: Newest Nic at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (jYje5)

366 ""Social media" consists of lots and lots of sites that aren't tweeter, and what is going on on those sites is NOT the narrative. "

You haven't met the Igno-Daughter. She gets all the Leftie talking points on social media, and can spout them rapid fire.

You haven't met the Igno-Son. Compared to me he's Pinochet.

There are more kids like my daughter than my son. But kids do get wiser with age.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (1UZdv)

367
Do you see people being energized by Cory Boiker? Kamalatoe Harris? Amy Fraublucher?

I sure don't, and this Demoncrat House mess is not even yet begun to tear itself apart.

They're making Trump look more rational and sane, with each new utterance.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:41 AM (cY3LT)

No, and the more the MSM fluffs them up, the worse it will be for them.
My main fears are voter fraud targeting specific districts that were the key to Trump's victory in '16 and something ginned up late in the election cycle like the financial collapse of 2008, something that will make the voters do something impulsive and irrational that they will regret....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (NFEMn)

368 355 Agree with rickl, Public Leftist Seminaries graduate students every day, only a matter of time we will be overcome by Leftism.
Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2019 11:45 AM (/rm4P)


See my comment #40 above. It's relevant.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (VaN/j)

369 Is autocorrect even useful, or does it ever work properly? Must've been developed by the government.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at February 17, 2019 11:51 AM (NjJUT)


Gaining access to a friend's phone and making a few key improvements to the autocorrect dictionary = good times.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (t+qrx)

370 Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (1UZdv)

Who the hell shows dick pics to their brother?! Or was it "only" the sexting?

I have a ton of respect for Bezos for Blue Origins, but this sordid affair shows how the gods punish hubris.

You flew too close to the sun, Dickarus!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (kQs4Y)

371 It's a strange, strange world. MeAgain Kelly is actually right about something.

Megyn Kelly
@megynkelly
J. Smollett case had plenty of red flags, but media was too attached to storyline (and victimhood) to see/admit them. Once again, journos dedicated more to proving *themselves* virtuous than to reporting facts botch the story. It's tiresome and won't change.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

372 I'm reading "The Jussie Diet: How to Get In Shape By Bleaching Your Skin, Jumping Rope and Sparring With Weight-Lifters While Eating Subway Sandwiches".

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (LjXLa)

373 If malaria literally means "bad air", what does Bulgaria mean?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2019 11:35 AM (m45I2)


something to do with cone-shaped corn snacks, I think.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (mUa7G)

374 At a waterpark this yesterday...saw someone reading the Joe Biden book....I laffed
Posted by: A dude in MI at February 17, 2019 11:42 AM (OOH1c)

Where in Michigan?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 11:45 AM (t+qrx)


What's a waterpark.

We have pools. They don't open until the Memorial Day weekend.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (cY3LT)

375 It's a strange, strange world. MeAgain Kelly is actually right about something.

Megyn Kelly
@megynkelly
J. Smollett case had plenty of red flags, but media was too attached to storyline (and victimhood) to see/admit them. Once again, journos dedicated more to proving *themselves* virtuous than to reporting facts botch the story. It's tiresome and won't change.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)


Shorter Meagain Kelly:

I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:54 AM (cY3LT)

376 357 Just started "Struggle for the Middle Sea" by Vincent O'Hara - history of the Med in WWII.

Looks promising. His style is somewhat clipped and direct, not much fluff, but I think he has an interesting approach of trying to approach all questions in a fresh way, not just absorbing conventional wisdom.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 17, 2019 11:46 AM (QDnY+)


The trouble with O'Hara is he seems to set out with his conclusions before he gets around to looking up the evidence. I don't refuse to read him, but I don't really trust him.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 17, 2019 11:55 AM (VaN/j)

377 Funny - even CNN is starting to report that the Justin Smollett story looks like a hoax, meaning that the Jig is Up.

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That's rayciss!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

378 It tells you all you need to know about the Left and where we are in 2019 that they have to make-up and otherwise stage hate crimes in order to make Trump voters look like the racist monsters that they conjured up in their minds.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 11:55 AM (NFEMn)

379 Funny - even CNN is starting to report that the Justin Smollett story looks like a hoax, meaning that the Jig is Up.

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That's rayciss!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 11:56 AM (NFEMn)

380 Do you see people being energized by Cory Boiker? Kamalatoe Harris? Amy Fraublucher?

I sure don't, and this Demoncrat House mess is not even yet begun to tear itself apart.

They're making Trump look more rational and sane, with each new utterance.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:41 AM (cY3LT)

No, and the more the MSM fluffs them up, the worse it will be for them.
My main fears are voter fraud targeting specific districts that were the key to Trump's victory in '16 and something ginned up late in the election cycle like the financial collapse of 2008, something that will make the voters do something impulsive and irrational that they will regret....
Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (NFEMn)


I definitely think voter fraud is a reasonable concern.

My hope would be, those with a vested interest in not having their own seats stolen from them, will be fighting that as we speak.

We shall see.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (cY3LT)

381 358
There are wide swaths of the internet, where the active disdain for leftism is driving the leftists nuts. They HATE the youtubers, they think Tik Tok is the scourge of society. Same with instagram, reddit, and all the other places I never heard of, where young people are mocking the left day after day after day. They're not NOT paying attention. They're seeing what the left is doing on "old" social media, and they're seeing it as a joke. Because it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)


I don't know any young people (except for the cute girls at the vet's office and the cancer treatment center), so I don't know where they congregate or what they think.

But I do think that young people are naturally rebellious, and that some of them are rolling their eyes when their lefty professors reminisce about their glory days on the barricades.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (sdi6R)

382
Bulgaria = Wheat Air?

What kind of air is Peruvia?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (aKsyK)

383 Carmichael's in Louisville would never make my best list. It's tiny. Completely lefty books. Avoid.

Posted by: NCKate at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (JyTrc)

384 I have two. Begin with this six part BBC documentary available on YouTube

https://bit.ly/2SHXfrc

Then Stanley Payne's The Spanish Civil War.

Caution: It does rhyme with today and is therefore scary as hell.




Is the BBC series evenhanded or are they giving a tongue bath to the commies?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2019 11:58 AM (SiINZ)

385 I'm immersed in the second volume of Stephen Kotkin's Stalin Trilogy ( the third is due in 2020) and am at the point where the Great Terror has just started.

Stalin was just an evil motherfucker.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 11:58 AM (NFEMn)

386 365 I read it. I don't think progressives actually process what that all means. All they think is Orange Man Bad so democrats are right. I actually had an argument with a female friend about third trimester abortion and she said that babies were parasites so mothers had a right to do what they want with their bodies. This from someone who bore a child! How do you even argue about that? It made me sick.

Posted by: sharon at February 17, 2019 11:59 AM (QzF6i)

387 What kind of air is Peruvia?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (aKsyK)


Airoperuvia tickets are one-way.

Eh, part-way.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 11:59 AM (t+qrx)

388 Biden book? Does the book have scratch-n-sniff pages?

Posted by: Hands at February 17, 2019 12:00 PM (786Ro)

389 And Obola had a Mao ornament on his Christmas tree.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

It's almost as if the academic/bureaucratic complex took that ornament as the signal to stop pretending that they were American institutions.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2019 12:01 PM (phT8I)

390 So what are YOU reading, Hogmartin?

Spicy Zeppelin Stories?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 12:01 PM (kQs4Y)

391 388 Biden book? Does the book have scratch-n-sniff pages?
Posted by: Hands at February 17, 2019 12:00 PM (786Ro)


It's a pop-up book for girls.

Posted by: Billy Goat Gruff at February 17, 2019 12:02 PM (0x00j)

392 I actually had an argument with a female friend about third trimester abortion and she said that babies were parasites so mothers had a right to do what they want with their bodies. This from someone who bore a child! How do you even argue about that? It made me sick.

People who think like that need to be on the list, "Up against the wall when the Revolution Comes."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 12:02 PM (V2Yro)

393 ""Social media" consists of lots and lots of sites that aren't tweeter, and what is going on on those sites is NOT the narrative. "
-----------------------------------
You haven't met the Igno-Daughter. She gets all the Leftie talking points on social media, and can spout them rapid fire.

You haven't met the Igno-Son. Compared to me he's Pinochet.

There are more kids like my daughter than my son. But kids do get wiser with age.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (1UZdv)


My own daughter looks an awful lot like the idiot lefties that we see on teevee, a true Berniebot.

Sure, it's a numbers game, but their number has already peaked. The number of young, smirking, maga hat wearing yoots is growing.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

394 I definitely think voter fraud is a reasonable concern.

My hope would be, those with a vested interest in not having their own seats stolen from them, will be fighting that as we speak.

We shall see.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (cY3LT)

It doesn't even have to be the MASSIVE fraud that some people here think. They only need to flip a couple of states and they could do this by stealing enough votes in the greater metro areas contained within.
My hope is that Trump swings enough independents and even some democrats who mindlessly voted for Hillary last time so that their efforts come up short.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 12:03 PM (NFEMn)

395 Is the BBC series evenhanded or are they giving a tongue bath to the commies?

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They lean left but not so badly that the truth can't be discrened. For example, they decry the atrocities of the right and casually mention that the left murdered 6,000 priests and nuns.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

396 Great news, everyone!
Anthony Weiner is out of prison.

Posted by: navybrat hates disco music at February 17, 2019 12:05 PM (w7KSn)

397 So what are YOU reading, Hogmartin?

Spicy Zeppelin Stories?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 17, 2019 12:01 PM (kQs4Y)


I haven't been reading at all lately; cleaning the house and finishing up some projects in the small spaces between work. Parents will be visiting this weekend so I'm trying to make things look presentable. Thanks for asking all the same.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 12:05 PM (t+qrx)

398 What bothers me most about social media is that we really don't know what is "tending."

We now know they place an elephant on the scale in favor of left.

Trump was able to get around that because they didn't know he was doing it.
2018 was the trial run to make sure that didn't happen again.
And it worked.

Take a look at any one of Trump's tweets--90 percent of the responses are lefties lying and mocking him.
That's directly because Twitter is actively blocking every supportive response.
Tens of thousands of likes and retweets on all of Trump's tweets.
But all the responses are negative?

And they have dived deep into the conservative ecosphere and are doing the same to even the small fish

It is the same across all social media and mass media ....

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 12:06 PM (TN1P5)

399
I hope everyone had a Happy Valentine's Day this past Thanksgiving Day this week.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi Galore at February 17, 2019 12:06 PM (jYje5)

400 That bookstore is a beautiful example of infidel culture.

It's gonna be awesome, burning its contents and tearing it to the ground.

Good times!

Posted by: SorosCorp European Replacement Population at February 17, 2019 12:06 PM (5aX2M)

401 Reporting falsehoods like Smollett's or the Covington BS is nothing compared to burying stories like FBI coups and social media censorship.


They let the noose tighten silently and distract with flashy non-events in the other direction.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 12:06 PM (dSQwl)

402 393
My own daughter looks an awful lot like the idiot lefties that we see on teevee, a true Berniebot.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)


But does she think that way, or does she have a good head on her shoulders?

If so, she can look however she wants. I'm all in favor of not judging a book by its cover.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 12:07 PM (sdi6R)

403 Powerline has the last Hitler Finds Out... video you will ever need.

Posted by: motionview at February 17, 2019 12:07 PM (BVkcX)

404 Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

I don't know any young people (except for the cute girls at the vet's office and the cancer treatment center), so I don't know where they congregate or what they think.

But I do think that young people are naturally rebellious, and that some of them are rolling their eyes when their lefty professors reminisce about their glory days on the barricades.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 11:57 AM (sdi6R)


Not just their professors, but their older siblings, who talk about trigger warnings, and declare everything to be rayciss, and white privilege and blah blah blah.

It's a joke to them. All of it. They were JUST as exposed to the indoctrination as the older generations, even those a few years older than them, but they see how the world is today, and they see through the lies.

It's like last year's flu vaccine. They have mutated... and last year's vaccine has no power over them.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:07 PM (cY3LT)

405

@secupp
The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 12:08 PM (aKsyK)

406 @405
Instapundit cites a Twitter response:

You and your media clown show don't get to spend two weeks exploiting an obvious lie to abuse Trump supporters.
And then dictate terms when your lying and/or stupidity is exposed.

touche!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 12:10 PM (1UZdv)

407
So "The Night He Ordered Stuffed Crust" is a euphemism for "She Viewed His Plate of Antipasto with Didain?"

I have to be more timely with my Stylebook updates.

Posted by: In Vito Veritits at February 17, 2019 12:10 PM (UFLLM)

408 >>@secupp
The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.

What a waste of a perfectly good rack.

No stuffed crust for you!

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2019 12:11 PM (/tuJf)

409 @secupp

--------

Yeah, yeah... put a sock in it, toots.

Then grab me a beer, and let me see some jiggle when you bring it.

*smacks ass*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 12:11 PM (5aX2M)

410 404
It's like last year's flu vaccine. They have mutated... and last year's vaccine has no power over them.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:07 PM (cY3LT)


Wow. That is awesome news.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 12:12 PM (sdi6R)

411 @secupp
The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 12:08 PM (aKsyK)


...which is kind of what we'd said from the beginning, if anyone had bothered to listen. As a wise man once said, "welcome to the party, pal".

Also adorable: "why do people who voted for the other guy always make things about politics? is it because they're awful, always voting for the other guy instead of uniting and healing?"

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 12:12 PM (t+qrx)

412 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 12:08 PM (aKsyK)

So Trumpsters are the villains no matter what.

Posted by: BignJames at February 17, 2019 12:13 PM (cxHbL)

413 My own daughter looks an awful lot like the idiot lefties that we see on teevee, a true Berniebot.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

But does she think that way, or does she have a good head on her shoulders?

If so, she can look however she wants. I'm all in favor of not judging a book by its cover.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 12:07 PM (sdi6R)


No, she's one of them.

I'm an monster. Most of my family are monsters. Because we skew toward old school Catholic conservatism.

However, she is no longer being supported financially by me, so it's possible the real world will be doing some teaching to her. She sure isn't going to listen to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:13 PM (cY3LT)

414 "@secupp
The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.
"
-Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2019 12:08 PM (aKsyK)

S.E. Cupp is a Virtue-Signalling defeatist. I used to be in that camp, but I got better.

I misunderstood "Nationalism" and I'll continue to awaken from my insulated ignorance, daily.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 12:13 PM (Ckg4U)

415 Great news, everyone!
Anthony Weiner is out of prison.
Posted by: navybrat hates disco music at February 17, 2019

++++

But is his junk still in?

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at February 17, 2019 12:13 PM (T09ml)

416 MSNBC reports on the Smollett hoax but says "we can't determine his motive."

Heh

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 12:14 PM (1UZdv)

417 It's like last year's flu vaccine. They have mutated... and last year's vaccine has no power over them.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:07 PM (cY3LT)

Wow. That is awesome news.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 12:12 PM (sdi6R)


Whether they vote or not, that remains to be seen.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 17, 2019 12:15 PM (cY3LT)

418 "Great news, everyone!
Anthony Weiner is out of prison.
"-Posted by: navybrat hates disco music at February 17, 2019

Give him enough Electronic Devices and he'll be Swingin' by Dawn.

Posted by: Slapweasel at February 17, 2019 12:15 PM (Ckg4U)

419 "And they have dived deep into the conservative ecosphere and are doing the same to even the small fish
-- It is the same across all social media and mass media ....Posted by: RoyalOil,


I think that is right, even some on You-Tube with 10k followers can get scolded and blocked by the idiot child tyrants of Silicon Valley. And they can set algorithms to easily block/defund/shadowBan ... all conservative voices. All funded and approved from above.


The foundations put out an expensive reports describing social media as their "Trojan horse", to control over WrongThink. The enemy is not a few misguided kids, as with Mao, they are useful tools ... "cops" (CEOs/Soros) stand by and watch with a smug grin.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2019 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

420 I ran, there's a nood, Iran.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 17, 2019 12:16 PM (DMUuz)

421
Who would be sending me a photograph of the Amazon logo in the middle of the afternoon? Is it moving? Is that a hand holding it?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi Galore at February 17, 2019 12:16 PM (jYje5)

422 Weiner wants his laptop back. Any clue where it is?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 12:16 PM (1UZdv)

423 Hillary didn't energize anyone--they all just pretended.
80 precent of her support was lefties giddy at the idea of sticking it to Republicans.
That allowed them to be complacent

And still she almost won.

Take away her baggage, twenty years of slime, replace with a younger face-- yes, 2020 will be closer.

All of the advantages Hillary had will be in play--the media, the spying by the federal agencies, the billions in financing, 200 to 250 electoral votes before a single vote is cast.
All of them will still be there for the Democrats

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at February 17, 2019 12:16 PM (TN1P5)

424 Are you saying the Constitutional Republic the Founders built is gone for good? "

Si. Tribalism reigns.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 17, 2019 12:16 PM (jGgVe)

425 I actually had an argument with a female friend about third trimester abortion and she said that babies were parasites so mothers had a right to do what they want with their bodies. This from someone who bore a child! How do you even argue about that? It made me sick.

Are you a parasite?

Why aren't you a parasite? You were a baby once. Is there some magical age that you stopped being a parasite ...

So then it really is OK to kill the helpless, cause after a baby is born it is helpless for 5 +/- years...

What about people in the hospitals, especially in a coma? They're helpless ...

Well, if you are a parasite, then does society have the right to kill you for its own protection?

et cetera

Posted by: Adriane the Thesaurus Critic ... at February 17, 2019 12:17 PM (LPnfS)

426 340 If malaria literally means "bad air", what does Bulgaria mean?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 17, 2019 11:35 AM (m45I2)


Fat air?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 12:17 PM (ebz3G)

427

@secupp
The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.




Oh, I see, I'm supposed to bleed because the liar who lied about me (all of us) is exposed as a liar?


Fuck that noise.

Posted by: Erasmus Toejam at February 17, 2019 12:18 PM (dSQwl)

428 one You-Tuber I saw, has 30k subscribers, says she makes about $2500/month. It depends on how many click on the ads, but she only does 2 videos/week, figures 40 hours per month. Pretty good money ... so demonetizing people/voices is a powerful weapon.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2019 12:18 PM (Cus5s)

429 I worry about targeted fraud in 2020, as cited above.

Nothing else.

The Ds have no one to run in 2020 that Trump can't beat like a pinata

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 17, 2019 12:19 PM (1UZdv)

430 @secupp
The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.



All tits, no brains

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2019 12:19 PM (SiINZ)

431 Tweeter is where all the media types are. Where all the old people are. Sorry, it's just true.

Yeah, kids aren't on Twitter and Facebook, they're on chat programs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 12:20 PM (39g3+)

432 I agree 100%, except about real life.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 10:40 AM (t+qrx)

you're on the wrong side of 29 to be so cynical

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 12:21 PM (BJlbN)

433 "The Night He Ordered Stuffed Crust"


Uh...pass on the crusty vagina euphemism.


Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2019 12:24 PM (CRRq9)

434 you're on the wrong side of 29 to be so cynical
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 12:21 PM (BJlbN)


I was just goofing, votermom.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2019 12:25 PM (t+qrx)

435
32 minutes into the BBC series on the Spanish Civil War and it's pretty pro-commie. One mention of burning churches and convents, but it's all workers fighting for their rights and overthrowing the oppression.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2019 12:25 PM (SiINZ)

436 Just watched the Hitler parody on Powerline. So very clever. Definitely a must see.

Posted by: sharon at February 17, 2019 12:26 PM (QzF6i)

437 Yeah, yeah... put a sock in it, toots.
Then grab me a beer, and let me see some jiggle when you bring it.

*smacks ass*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 17, 2019 12:11 PM (5aX2M)


First you tell her: "Say goodbye to Felix. Man talk."

And then ( *smacks ass* )

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 12:27 PM (ebz3G)

438 Anyone who has ever read the wit and wisdom of Dr. Eugene Gu and The Krassenstein Bros. knows that twitter is the place to go for rational political discussion....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 12:27 PM (NFEMn)

439 The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.
--------------------------------------------------------------
So Trump supporters have to take a beating either way?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 17, 2019 12:28 PM (NFEMn)

440 Mostly well edited, but I am probably way too bothered that the author doesn't know that "rappelling" is not spelled "repelling."
Posted by: April at February 17, 2019 09:29 AM (OX9vb)

Author probably knew, but maybe someone in the publishing process didn't. Or, increasingly, an artifact of autocucumber

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2019 12:32 PM (nPGq2)

441 My daughter has to do a 4 minute oratory from a book and has chose a section from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl. When looking up how to pronounce his name to be correct it was found we have all been pronouncing it wrong.
https://tinyurl.com/yxvsyd9f
Great video at the bottom of that link.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 17, 2019 12:34 PM (r+sAi)

442 If you're wearing those pants, international law requires that you wear your hair slicked down and parted in the middle like that.

Good morning.
Posted by: mindful webworker agrees with Egon, print is dead, at February 17, 2019 09:40 AM (dRfXw)

Golly! It's the Gayzarro World Alfalfa!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2019 12:36 PM (nPGq2)

443 So my question really is, in an ideal world, if you
had a big enough room, would you want all your books in one glorious
sanctuary or and and spread all throughout?

Posted by: Jim S. at February 17, 2019 10:21 AM (ynUnH)
And is the word you're looking for.
Some of us want to see our enemies crushed and hear the lamentations of their women, some simply dream of having a glorious library, with overflow all throughout the rest of the house.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 12:39 PM (VLXcj)

444 Finally began an assault on the TBR stacks by cracking open "Circus," an Alistair MacLean novel from the mid-'70s. I've owned it for years.

I'm only into the third chapter, but it's taking surprising turns.

The plot: CIA recruits an acrobat with fantastic memory to return to his Eastern European homeland to steal a scientific secret. The circus that employs the acrobat and his brothers is going on tour behind the Iron Curtain, providing cover for his mission.

But --

The book opens with an Agency officer and his superior recruiting the acrobat, Bruno. The superior is killed in his apartment, indicating a spy is in the Agency. The officer is lured into an ambush at the circus. He's found mauled to death in a tiger cage by the circus owner.

Wait ... we're out of protagonists!

Maybe not. It looks as if the owner and Bruno are going to carry the ball, but they have yet to receive a full briefing. And that murderous spy is still loose ...

That's as far as I've read. I hope to get past the delays of life soon so I can get back to the book.

Now let's see what topics sprouted on this thread.

Posted by: Weak Geek, not good at snark at February 17, 2019 12:41 PM (PWPy3)

445 364 but it's been pointed out the filing a false report
is only a $10k fine, no jailtime. So even if they go that far, Smollett
will write a check, everyone will then pretend it never happened, and
they all go on like before.



Reading between the lines, it looked like the Chicago Police
arrested the brothers on charges of attacking Smollett, and their
defense was "hey, we never attacked him, and we just went up there and
handed him that rope and stuff because he paid us a few thousand dollars
to do it." No crime there on their part.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2019 11:52 AM (V2Yro)

Links on the EMT say it is a felony and he could get three years in the Grey Bar Hotel in IL.

Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2019 12:49 PM (mpXpK)

446 Brooks Brothers was a US military uniform tailor, Generals Sheridan and Sherman had their uniforms tailored there. (For the record, a lot of infantrymen heading out to Cuba through New York had their Krag rifles' side-plate and a couple other key parts Silver plated at Tiffany's because of rust issues in the tropics, so real men can sniff all they want)

The only thing I have bad to say about Brooks Brothers are the $115 dress shirts.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2019 10:03 AM (mUa7G)

Silver seems to me to be a bad choice for that purpose. It's not really all that resistant to corrosion, especially if sulfur is present. Were they still suing black powder cartridges? Also, it's so shiny, it would make concealing oneself more difficult.

Gold plate would be more corrosion-resistant than silver, but zinc would be the practical choice, IMHO. Or Nickel, perhaps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2019 12:50 PM (nPGq2)

447 Some of us want to see our enemies crushed and hear the lamentations of their women, some simply dream of having a glorious library, with overflow all throughout the rest of the house.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 12:39 PM (VLXcj)

a library built with the bones of our enemies wouldn't be bad...

something

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 12:50 PM (BJlbN)

448 If you buy a men's dress shirt from Costco, you are buying shirt patterns licensed from Brooks Bros.

Posted by: navybrat hates disco music at February 17, 2019 12:59 PM (w7KSn)

449 397 - Thanks hogmartin, I won't bring my white gloves. Looking forward to our visit!

Posted by: hogmartinsmom at February 17, 2019 01:01 PM (8xZLz)

450 Posted by: Weak Geek, not good at snark at February 17, 2019 12:41 PM (PWPy3)

Grew up reading Alistair MacLean novels as well as Helen McGinnes (sp?). Trying to catch them cheap on Kindle to replace those given up in cross-country moves.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 17, 2019 01:05 PM (phT8I)

451 "Young Winston" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069528/

Posted by: Frank Bass at February 17, 2019 01:05 PM (6vLIS)

452 Churchill himself wrote a book about his Boer War experiences (I believe it's simply titled "The Boer War"): it's good reading.
He got his hands on a Boer uniform and simply strolled out the front gate one day, as I recall.
He had a tough time making it out of Boer-controlled territory, since he didn't speak the language.
Good stuff. Cheap on Kindle, too.

Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at February 17, 2019 01:15 PM (FqMrm)

453 This week I am deep in the middle of Anthony Trollope's "Can You Forgive Her?", the first of the Palliser series. I'm listening to the Audible exclusive version read by Timothy West. I must say that it is absolutely excellent and a cause for many late nights as I listen for "just 30 more minutes."

Trollope's Barchester series focused on the clergy; the Palliser series focuses more on government. While Goodrreads reviews tend to gloss over the government part of "Can You Forgive Her?" I find those parts both instructive and disheartening. Not much has changed since Victorian times in the ways of power and who gets listened to and who does not.

But that's not really the point of the book. Instead it is a look at three women: a young unmarried woman, a young married woman, and a young widow - and how they navigate the waters of the matrimonial and post-matrimonial pool. Trollope poses the question with all three, "What should a woman do with her life?"

It's a rare 850 page book that can hold one's attention while detailing the love interests of three women. And it proves that it was ever such: There's just something about the "bad boy." In each case, the women must decide between the stable, loving, good man and the exciting and fun rake. How that works out takes a long time. But it is time so well spent.

Trollope was conservative - so I am sure that all will work out according to Victorian standards by the end. But Trollope loves his characters, especially the women, and writes them with such affection that we love them too, and care about what will happen to them.

10000% worth the read and the time.

Posted by: SummaMamaT at February 17, 2019 01:28 PM (BRwfN)

454 Posted by: hogmartinsmom at February 17, 2019 01:01 PM (8xZLz)

hello, hogmartinsmom!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 01:31 PM (BJlbN)

455 Hello votermom!

Posted by: hogmartinsmom at February 17, 2019 01:38 PM (8xZLz)

456 a library built with the bones of our enemies wouldn't be bad...



Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at February 17, 2019 12:50 PM (BJlbN)

For me, it would depend upon the choice of stain. I tend to prefer darker tones; mahogany, perhaps?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 17, 2019 01:47 PM (VLXcj)

457 Wow, this is a busy book thread today.

So about halfway though the latest Nick Petrie book (Peter Ash character) and am liking it (could not let the Amazon gift card just sit there unused). Better review after I finish the book.
Not sure of the etiquette- I (and I am sure the author) thank OregonMuse for the mention.

Posted by: Charlotte at February 17, 2019 02:04 PM (JwHYp)

458 My family is from the Porto area and I have visited the Livraria Lello bookstore in Porto quite a few times. Unfortunately, in the past few years with the popularity of travel to Portugal up, the store has turned into a big tourist attraction, so they move you through the store rather quickly to an exit area where they sell you a bunch of non-books tourist stuff.
Can't blame them for making the bucks while they can.

Posted by: JoeNYC at February 17, 2019 02:04 PM (//3VH)

459 Spent some Prime credits yesterday on the third "The Hidden Truth" book.

I've enjoyed the first two even though I don't "get" all the antenna science. I'm really looking forward to the conclusion and how our very own scientific moron does it.

Highly recommend the first two books even if the hero is a GT Yellow Jacket. Nerds!

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 17, 2019 02:10 PM (GwY6O)

460 I have the good fortune to be able to the Battery Park Bookstore in Asheville every couple of weeks.

Posted by: MAGA at February 17, 2019 05:15 PM (I5LRE)

461 457 Wow, this is a busy book thread today.

Posted by: Charlotte at February 17, 2019 02:04 PM (JwHYp)


The book thread is open all day for your convenience.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at February 17, 2019 05:45 PM (ebz3G)

462 This week I read A Borrowing of Bones, by Paula Munier, the first of a planned series about a (female) Iraq war MP vet and the sniffer dog that belonged to her KIA fiance.

Meh. It was okay, what OM refers to as a "cozy mystery."

Can't wait to start Good Omens by Gaiman and Pratchett.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 17, 2019 06:04 PM (tGSHk)

463 Just grabbed The Black Book of Communism By Stephane Courtois off archive.org. I've a feeling it doesn't belong on a sharealike/ public domain server. No checkout DRM reader required. I'm seeing quite a few newish copyrighted books on the PD/ShareAlike archive.org servers.


Posted by: 13times at February 17, 2019 06:53 PM (K3B2k)

464 So Trump supporters have to take a beating either way?

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Born under a bad sign.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 07:15 PM (+y/Ru)

465 Finally began an assault on the TBR stacks by cracking open "Circus," an Alistair MacLean novel from the mid-'70s. I've owned it for years.

I've never been disappointed by a MacLean book, and that one was particularly interesting and surprising. It felt like a Mission Impossible movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2019 08:35 PM (39g3+)

466 Begin with this six part BBC documentary available on YouTube

https://bit.ly/2SHXfrc

Then Stanley Payne's The Spanish Civil War.

Caution: It does rhyme with today and is therefore scary as hell.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 17, 2019 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)


I've watched 4 out of 6 parts of the BBC documentary and I don't see any parallels with present-day America. Am I missing something?

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

467 Oops, wrong thread.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2019 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

468 >>Scott, any help on where to find that gunshot bookend?

We found it on Etsy, but I don't see it there now.
We ordered it from Russia, and based on the lack of order feedback, we were worried we had been scammed. However, they showed up on our doorstep in an appropriate amount of time.

It was listed on Etsy as "Gun & blood splatter bookends", but a search for that doesn't find them anymore.

Posted by: Scott at February 17, 2019 10:26 PM (3ydq4)

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