SDNY Attorney's Office Press Release: We Got AMI to Admit, In Exchange for Immunity, That They Paid off MacDougal for Her Story With the Specific Intent of Avoiding Disclosures During the Campaign, and In Coordination with Trump

The backstory: A former Playboy bunny or something named MacDougal was paid by the National Enquirer for her Trump story, and for a fitness column. She was paid $150,000 for exclusive rights. But the National Enquirer didn't run the story, and because they bought exclusive rights, MacDougal couldn't go blabbing about her affair or whatever with Trump.

Although, of course, she did anyway.

Which is a strange thing, isn't it? These women keep violating legal agreements to dish on Trump, almost as if they're being paid to do so, and so don't have to fear legal consequences of breaking contracts.

Anyway, AMI is the parent corporation of National Enquirer.

AMI has reached a plea deal and has received immunity for telling the US Attorney what the US Attorney wanted to hear, that this payment was made for the specific purpose of influencing a federal election and not just to keep a mouthy broad from disrupting Trump's marital relations. The former reason would require an FEC disclosure, while the latter reason would not.

The US Attorney needs someone to claim that these payments were made for electoral and not personal reasons, and that's what they got.

The Office also announced today that it has previously reached a non-prosecution agreement with AMI, in connection with AMI's role in making the above-described $150,000 payment before the 2016 presidential election. As a part of the agreement, AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate's presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election. AMI further admitted that its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman's story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.

Actually, she wasn't supposed to talk about this, ever. Where are they getting this time-limitation of "during the campaign" from?

Assuming AMI's continued compliance with the agreement, the Office has agreed not to prosecute AMI for its role in that payment. The agreement also acknowledges, among other things, AMI's acceptance of responsibility, its substantial and important assistance in this investigation, and its agreement to provide cooperation in the future and implement specific improvements to its internal compliance to prevent future violations of the federal campaign finance laws. These improvements include distributing written standards regarding federal election laws to its employees and conducting annual training concerning these standards.

Note that immunity was secured by specifically claiming that the purpose was to influence the election. Without that, no case. So they got immunity by agreeing to testify to the prosecutor's absolute must-have claim.

Eh. All right. This shit usually is handled with a fine -- remember, Hillary Clinton deliberately misrepresented the reasons for her payments to Perkins-Coie as "legal services" when a substantial amount of that money went to oppo research, specifically "The Doisser" -- and no one's even talking about a fine for that, but I guess suddenly we're taking this all very seriously.

If suppressing certain news stories to influence campaigns is now a federal crime, then I have some very, very bad news for political journalists. https://t.co/Gbu7c2R2ze
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) December 12, 2018

I just watched The Creepy Line last night. As we talk about RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE! and media covering up stories, we might want to look at Google, which suppressed negative search results for Hillary Clinton. This sort of suppression of negative search results has a powerful effect on voters, and almost always shifts their perceptions of a candidate in a positive direction.

The academic who conducted this research during the 2016 campaign was reviewing the results of his findings for Google's Hillary Clinton results, and found that all ten of the first ten results were biased to the positive. At this point he sort of took a breath and said, "I wouldn't have done that. If I were rigging this, I would have at least included one or two negative stories so it wouldn't appear so blatant," or words to that close effect.

Google did not perform a similar suppression-of-negative-search-results favor for Donald Trump or even Bernie Sanders.

So Google made a several billion dollar in-kind contribution to the Hillary Clinton campaign -- a billion-plus dollar donation they of course did not acknowledge nor report to the FEC.

Are any US Attorney's offices going to probe them for campaign finance violations?

No, of course not. We know the game is rigged.

The question is: At what point do we just stop playing a rigged game?

Our would-be masters ought to consider that very carefully.

And I sure hope AEI, CEI, and Representative Bob Goodlatte and whoever else keeps on protecting Google from the standard application of US antitrust and campaign finance law.

Muh Private Googlez

Corporations are people too, my friend. No wait -- they're better than people. They can freely ignore laws that mere people may be prosecuted for.

What We Have Here Is a Failure to Coordinate: What I'm thinking is Cohen is being sent off to jail precisely because he has not confirmed/affirmed AMI's story here. The prosecutor would like two people telling this same tale; I am assuming that, based on Cohen not getting immunity, he did not repeat AMI's story.

Which makes me doubt AMI's story -- Cohen does not seem like the kind of guy who would go to jail if he could just tell the US attorney what he wants to hear.

This would explain why the US Attorney was so pissy about Cohen and claimed he was not being helpful in the ways they needed him to be helpful about.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:54 PM

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1 Well, well, well. Over/under on Articles of Impeachment? I'm going with March.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2018 05:44 PM (qUh6B)

2 'If man pay for pussy, he never stop paying for pussy' -

Shit Confucius Said, Vol I

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2018 05:46 PM (uGgbX)

3 It's cold and lonely in here.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2018 05:47 PM (uGgbX)

4 Told ya nood would be here shortly

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2018 05:55 PM (/rm4P)

5 Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon...Manny Mota...Mota...Mota

Posted by: tu3031 at December 12, 2018 05:55 PM (sf1AO)

6

Uhhh, wut? I don't pay attention to almost any of this BS... what are we talking about?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 12, 2018 05:55 PM (q1al1)

7 Man, am I ever slow on the uptake. I just figured out the two microphone stands in the sidebar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 05:56 PM (w54mS)

8 I'm a bit lost. Is there a diagram by any chance?

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 05:56 PM (lwiT4)

9 Yep

Posted by: See if it stinks at December 12, 2018 05:56 PM (UdKB7)

10 Rich Zeoli 1210am thinks Cohan is being led/ forced to talk to NY AG for any Trump crime material as part of his plea deal.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2018 05:57 PM (/rm4P)

11 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 12, 2018 05:57 PM (fD23g)

12 Our legal system is closer to Roland Freisler than Scalia? Gosh, who knew.

I just hope I can enjoy a nice Christmas before the collapse.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 05:57 PM (qqEFK)

13 >>Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon...Manny Mota...Mota...Mota

ha

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 05:57 PM (/tuJf)

14 Are any US Attorney's offices going to probe them for campaign finance violations?

No, of course not. We know the game is rigged.

The question is: At what point do we just stop playing a rigged game?

Our would-be masters ought to consider that very carefully.

Easy one. They will stop when they find that continuing is too costly for them. And not before.

I don't see that any time soon.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at December 12, 2018 05:58 PM (VaN/j)

15 I am also curious about when we stop playing a rigged game and start on a more level....field.

Sign me up for news alerts, plz

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2018 05:58 PM (xJa6I)

16

Does this mean I can start gardening from the streetlights, or is that next week?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 12, 2018 05:58 PM (q1al1)

17 Wasn't AMI (in Florida) attacked by the Moslem anthrax letter that the FIB blamed on a scientist but they couldn't prove it so they hounded him till he killed himself?? Wasn't Mueller leading that one too??

Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2018 05:58 PM (Evws/)

18
Who is MacDougal?

Who gives a flying fook?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 12, 2018 05:58 PM (pNxlR)

19 These two women were in the news before Donald Trump even decided to run! Everyone had already heard this gossip.

How can it be a campaign issue?

Just more lies from the corrupt commie media.

Posted by: Pam at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (qRq6C)

20 So - they are saying Trump gave a newspaper $150,000 not to publish a story about a woman?

Sorry for the dumz.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (lwiT4)

21 >>>Who is MacDougal?

she was the playboy bunny or whatever Trump had some kind of a fling with.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (PbpT7)

22 MacDougal was smoking hot. Her story would have probably helped Trump.

Either way, this is ridiculous as a campaign finance thing. Unless he used campaign funds for any of this it's meaningless.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (oRu+u)

23 1 Well, well, well. Over/under on Articles of Impeachment? I'm going with March.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2018 05:44 PM (qUh6B)

January

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (xJa6I)

24
AMI did this. Where does the 'in coordination with Trump' come in? Any evidence of that?

AMI gets a non prosecution agreement if they implicate Trump in coordination?

Posted by: Kyle R. W. Nestori at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (hrcfq)

25
11 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 12, 2018 05:57 PM (fD23g)

You mean The Left will be lucky to live through it, right?

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (JPC1r)

26 don't pay attention to almost any of this BS... what are we talking about"

Well, see, there's this thing, and...

What?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (6qErC)

27

Well, well, well. Over/under on Articles of Impeachment? I'm going with March.

I'd give them about three nanoseconds after the new Congress gets sworn in.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (HaL55)

28 Wait, wut? Is this saying that The National Enquirer paid someone $150K so that the Enquierer would NOT publish her story? huh? They typically pay FOR stories to come out, not suppress them.

Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (786Ro)

29 The reason I say March, is that is when Cohen actually goes to jail, and Lanny Davis promised at the same time as this was happening that Cohen will both sing and compose for Herr Mueller right up until then.

So they'll pair whatever fairy story he tells with this Pecker's "testimony" to go after some kind of campaign finance basis for impeachment.

So for now: I'm setting my watch for mid-to-late March.

It's about to get sporty.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (qUh6B)

30 >>>20 So - they are saying Trump gave a newspaper $150,000 not to publish a story about a woman?

Sorry for the dumz.

...

they're not saying Trump gave them the money, though they surely suspect that.

But they are claiming that this was done with trump in order to affect an election, and that any in-kind expenditures to affect an election must be disclosed in campaign finance filings, and since Trump didn't acknoweldge he was paying off his (maybe) blackmailer, then he violated fed elex finance law.

You know, kind of like lying about what you gave millions of dollars to Perkins-Coie for on your disclosure forms.

But that's not something worth prosecuting Because We Said So.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (PbpT7)

31 How did Cohen direct AMI to do his bidding?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (PUmDY)

32 Eh. All right. This shit usually is handled with a fine -- remember, Hillary Clinton deliberately misrepresented the reasons for her payments to Perkins-Coie as "legal services" when a substantial amount of that money went to oppo research, specifically "The Doisser" -- and no one's even talking about a fine for that, but I guess suddenly we're taking this all very seriously.

Barky made a total mockery of any and all "campaign finance law". He's just lucky that the treasonous loser he was running against had no interest in campaign finance shit ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (oRu+u)

33 AMI did this. Where does the 'in coordination with Trump' come in? Any evidence of that?"

Evidence? Evidence? We don't need no stinking evidence!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (6qErC)

34 >>Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon...Manny Mota...Mota...Mota

Ha - You win the Flatland Internets!

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2018 06:02 PM (uGgbX)

35 I'd give them about three nanoseconds after the new Congress gets sworn in.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (HaL55)

The way he embarrassed Nan yesterday, I'm sure she's ready.

Posted by: BignJames at December 12, 2018 06:02 PM (cxHbL)

36 They typically pay FOR stories to come out, not suppress them.
Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:01 PM (786Ro)

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IOW, "catch-and-kill," or when a news org buys rights to a story that, for whatever reason, they don't want published.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2018 06:02 PM (qUh6B)

37 Thanks ace.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:02 PM (lwiT4)

38 >>>AMI did this. Where does the 'in coordination with Trump' come in? Any evidence of that?

AMI's word. They may have emails or the like. That's not mentioned in the press release but if this DID happen there would be emails, notes, etc.

If there is not such contemporaneous documentary evidence... well. That's weak.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:02 PM (PbpT7)

39 How did Cohen direct AMI to do his bidding?"

Magick.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:03 PM (6qErC)

40 >>Well, well, well. Over/under on Articles of Impeachment? I'm going with March.

Nancy is going to pull that giant gavel out of her dusty old cooter on Day 1.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2018 06:03 PM (uGgbX)

41

Evidence? Evidence? We don't need no stinking evidence!

Or the truth.

What is truth, anyway?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:03 PM (HaL55)

42 Sorry, still dumb over here too. Trump paid the Enquirer to pay McDougle?

Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:03 PM (786Ro)

43 I liked the US attorneys that suppressed exculpatory evidence in their very intentionally public witchhunt of Ted Stevens during his last Senate campaign. Nothing happened to any of them after they found "guilty as shit" by the court. What they did makes campaign finance crap look like kids' play.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (oRu+u)

44 >>>26 don't pay attention to almost any of this BS... what are we talking about"

Well, see, there's this thing, and...

...

I usually ignore the bullshit chatter, taking the position that I will not talk up these speculations for months on end, but will only report on actual allegations.

However, this is now a bona-fide allegation. It's all kind of bullshit, but it is an allegation.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (PbpT7)

45 PDT will brush this off too. It's all sound and fury.

Posted by: freaked at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (UdKB7)

46 So cohen is being jailed for NOT backing AMI's story, I gather.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (PbpT7)

47 They may have emails or the like. "

Which would've been plastered across the media over the past three years.

They ain't got shiite

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (6qErC)

48 And this is National Enquirer-related?

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (lwiT4)

49 > Barky made a total mockery of any and all "campaign finance law".

Hey, that's racist against mock Americans. Like me.

Posted by: Doodad Pro at December 12, 2018 06:04 PM (YLHN9)

50 If I'm Trump, I have a news conference tomorrow at which I answer no questions but hand out copies of a file containing all the Congresscritters that paid off a woman from the secret sexual harassment slush fund.

Posted by: Bert G at December 12, 2018 06:05 PM (OMsf+)

51 > Nothing happened to any of them after they found "guilty as shit" by the court.

That "qualified immunity" bullshit needs to go away.

Posted by: Doodad Pro at December 12, 2018 06:05 PM (YLHN9)

52 I wish I could even work up a 'you gotta be shitting me.'

Posted by: the dandy at December 12, 2018 06:05 PM (bR08X)

53 Recall Schlichter's commandment: buy guns and ammo.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2018 06:05 PM (ZfRYq)

54

The way he embarrassed Nan yesterday, I'm sure she's ready.

She does that herself every time she bleats anyhow.

Maybe that should've been spelled "Nan-oseconds." Measured in micro-Kohns. Or Bozons.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:05 PM (HaL55)

55 I like the way you think, Bert G.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:06 PM (lwiT4)

56 27

Well, well, well. Over/under on Articles of Impeachment? I'm going with March.

I'd give them about three nanoseconds after the new Congress gets sworn in.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 05:59 PM (HaL55)

Pretty much. As soon as that Dem majority gets sworn in, off to the races.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:06 PM (NWiLs)

57 You know what would make a great anti-trust settlement? Having GOOG give 1 share per month to every American citizen until they convince the DOJ they have a full election cycle of being unbiased, to the satisfaction of the GEOTUS . Would accomplish anti-trust objectives, and stimulus!

Posted by: Rather Not at December 12, 2018 06:06 PM (oPogG)

58 MacDougal was on ET or some gossip show recently talking about how much in love she was with Trump. They also showed her house in AZ, talked about her love of animals, how healthy she is, etc.

Someone's paying her big time.

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2018 06:06 PM (G+Wff)

59 So cohen is being jailed for NOT backing AMI's story, I gather."

Yep. They got nothing.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:06 PM (6qErC)

60 Okay I'll play... So paying off bimbos is a crime but paying off Russians and British/Australian intelligence for made up dirt isn't?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:07 PM (O2RFr)

61 Cohen has nothing, or else he'd be getting immunity.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2018 06:07 PM (ZfRYq)

62 Trump is not getting impeached.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:07 PM (/tuJf)

63 Wouldn't the Enquirer make more than $150,000 if they DID publish this story?

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

64 Bert G - great idea! Then unseal and release all documents and let the good times roll.

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (G+Wff)

65 'The way he embarrassed Nan yesterday'

I won't be surprised one bit when the insane lefty nitwits make that doddering dingbat Speaker again.

Posted by: freaked at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (UdKB7)

66
Vaguely worded emails about how bad this is going to reflect on the candidate if it goes public clearly means
call in the double naught wet-work agents that the secretary will disavow any knowledge of their existence.

Posted by: Kyle R. W. Nestori at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (hrcfq)

67 Open a Federal Investigation on ANY possible PERSONAL criminal exposure of every single employee at SDNY.
And their fucking families.

Witchhunts to Eternity, baby.

Lets Do This!

Posted by: mikeyG at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (LL1Be)

68 So allegedly paying off bimbos is a crime "

FIFY

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (6qErC)

69 60 Okay I'll play... So paying off bimbos is a crime but paying off Russians and British/Australian intelligence for made up dirt isn't?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:07 PM (O2RFr)

It's different when Democrats do it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (xJa6I)

70 Trump is not getting impeached.

Well he most likely is in the House.. I doubt there are enough Rino votes in the Senate though

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (O2RFr)

71 Legal experts have already said that the corrupt NY prosecutors do not have shit. Yes Trump paid off the lying scrunt to keep her mouth shut. But this is not a campaign violation and not against the law.

This is just more Democrat grandstanding by a bunch of lying assholes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (mpXpK)

72 > Trump is not getting impeached.

He might get impeached, but he won't be removed from office by the Senate.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (YLHN9)

73 >>>61 Cohen has nothing, or else he'd be getting immunity.

see update: I find it curious that Cohen did not back up AMI's story.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:09 PM (PbpT7)

74 Trump is not getting impeached."

Agreed.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:09 PM (6qErC)

75 > I won't be surprised one bit when the insane lefty nitwits make that doddering dingbat Speaker again.

Better her than Communist Barbie.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:09 PM (YLHN9)

76 OK, its hardball time.

Who approached who about paying off the 'Hush' money.

If Cohen approached the Women, that's one thing..

If the Women approached Cohen, its blackmail, plain and clear.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:09 PM (NgKpN)

77 Trump will be impeached. Just need a majority in the House.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2018 06:10 PM (ZfRYq)

78 58 MacDougal was on ET or some gossip show recently talking about how much in love she was with Trump. They also showed her house in AZ, talked about her love of animals, how healthy she is, etc.

Someone's paying her big time.
Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2018 06:06 PM (G+Wff)

Stormy Daniels didn't work, but this wench is a sure thing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2018 06:10 PM (xJa6I)

79

Open a Federal Investigation on ANY possible PERSONAL criminal exposure of every single employee at SDNY.
And their fucking families.

Witchhunts to Eternity, baby.

Lets Do This!

Maybe this is what PDT's been waiting for. He's been watching these corrupt AF Progs for a long time because he's thought about running for preezy before.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:10 PM (HaL55)

80 I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:10 PM (lwiT4)

81 What is truth, anyway?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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Whatever I say it is.

Posted by: Big Brother at December 12, 2018 06:11 PM (2qPhT)

82 74 Trump is not getting impeached."

Agreed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 12, 2018 06:09 PM (6qErC)

Concur, this is a political hit using Government resources... not a Legal case per se.

but they will use this as an 'Orange Man Bad' thing so they can continue to investigate everything about him, and anyone who supports him... already heard that talking point a couple of times today.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:11 PM (NgKpN)

83 80 I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.

Wouldn't surprise me

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:11 PM (O2RFr)

84 Is there not a court rule against making this kind of allegation?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2018 06:12 PM (PUmDY)

85 I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.
Posted by: grammie winger
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He's a lot stronger than anyone imagined.

Posted by: Big Brother at December 12, 2018 06:12 PM (2qPhT)

86 >>He might get impeached, but he won't be removed from office by the Senate.

He won't get impeached. Not unless there is one hell of a lot more than this crap.

We are not going from potential treasons actions with Russia to paying off a couple bimbos justifying impeachment.

Maybe some peach mints but no impeachment.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:12 PM (/tuJf)

87 Is there not a court rule against making this kind of allegation?

Not if you have an R after your name

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:12 PM (O2RFr)

88 He might get impeached, but he won't be removed from office by the Senate.�

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (YLHN9)

He hasn't gone through all this bullshit just to get Caesared. That I can guarantee.

Honestly, at this point I really don't care if he attaints Zuckerberg, Soros, and the Clintons before seizing their property for his personal use. It's time they learned how this game is played.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (qqEFK)

89 Point being if the NY AG can come up with anything plausible there isn't anything President Trump can do to stop it.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (/rm4P)

90 We already did this with Edwards. Jury said payments to the Baby Mama by a 3rd party to shut her up wasn't a crime. So how can this even be a thing?

I kid, I kid. Fascism has gripped the nation. Where it takes us nobody knows.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (PvCxa)

91 What a nothinburger.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (BXMxN)

92 He might get impeached, but he won't be removed from office by the Senate.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:08 PM (YLHN9)

You will be stunned at how many Republicans turn on him, when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (pNXT2)

93 He's a lot stronger than anyone imagined.
Posted by: Big Brother
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We should all be hand-writing letters of support...every day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (2qPhT)

94 If Trump pays the caravan $50k each to leave, is that a campaign violation?

Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (786Ro)

95 I updated the beginning of the post to explain all the background I should have explained originally.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:14 PM (PbpT7)

96 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at December 12, 2018 06:14 PM (ctuyM)

97 > I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.

Nah. While you or I might get tired of this crap after a while (I know I would), I get the sense that Trump actually thrives on it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:14 PM (YLHN9)

98 I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.

--

Difficult to know, but he seems to be more like a bull in a china shop; walk carefully, until you try to corner him, then breaks stuff.

Posted by: Kyle R. W. Nestori at December 12, 2018 06:14 PM (hrcfq)

99 4
Told ya nood would be here shortly

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2018 05:55 PM (/rm4P)
Oh, man, you DID! And you were CORRECT!
Got any stock tips?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:15 PM (UsCnO)

100 my thought of the day:

you remember how Comey said that even if Hillary did all these things that were technically bad, it wasn't a real case because she lacked intent?

Dems will try to impeach Trump by claiming that although he might not have done anything illegal, he had the intent of doing something legal even if it had been illegal.
we all know the Dems will start the impeachment proceedings as soon as they've gotten their new name placed installed.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at December 12, 2018 06:15 PM (ZqRa6)

101 Nothing burger

Posted by: Jonah at December 12, 2018 06:15 PM (HrSJb)

102
Sometimes you read of something that happened in the past, whether 20, 30, even 100 years ago and you have to put it in context. Five dollars 100 years ago is a helluva lot different then five dollars today. So I have a website 'pinned' on my computer to give me an inflation adjusted number. Smart, right?

You also have to make a mental adjustment for someone worth -- what a billion plus? Adjust downward. What the hell is $150,000 to him? Five dollars to you or I. It shuts the bimbo up. She gets to vent her story, perhaps some elements of it have some truth as in 'Dr. Ford'. Who needs the hassle or embarrassment for five dollars? He knows it's a shakedown and is willing to payoff the extortionist. Victimless crime, perhaps.

I'd rather the extortionist went to jail, but that doesn't seem to be possible in contemporary American society. Every woman MUST be believed. Whoreshit.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 12, 2018 06:15 PM (jYje5)

103 'I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President. '

Heck no he's waited all his life for this. He's not going to fold like some GOP weenie.

Posted by: freaked at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (UdKB7)

104
You will be stunned at how many Republicans turn on him, when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (pNXT2)

And they in turn will be surprised that the term "bulletproof" only applies to their figurative status in a corrupt government.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (qqEFK)

105 > Honestly, at this point I really don't care if he attaints Zuckerberg, Soros, and the Clintons before seizing their property for his personal use.

Yes. If the commies do manage to completely destroy the rule of law, they may be surprised by how that works out for them.

(sound of helicopters starting up in the distance)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (YLHN9)

106 89
Point being if the NY AG can come up with anything plausible there isn't anything President Trump can do to stop it.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (/rm4P)

He can sue the living dogshit out of them and file endless ethics complains. The problem is that NY has become some a corrupt wasteland that he would have to sue in a better State.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (mpXpK)

107 How is this different than the congressional slush fund? I think that might need a full airing and analysis.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (wMHPW)

108 When I grabbed MacDougal by the pussy I told her: "Call me after you've had a close shave".

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (HgMAr)

109 but they will use this as an 'Orange Man Bad' thing so they can continue to investigate everything about him, and anyone who supports him... already heard that talking point a couple of times today.
Posted by: Don Q.
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It's raw meat for the popular media to fill the airways with seeming Trump Bad crap. All in anticipation of 2020. It's the Nixon model.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (w54mS)

110 I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.
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They thought they were going to win. This was the setup to attack him after his loss to stop outsiders from ever daring to run again even had he lost.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (Evws/)

111 >>>101 Nothing burger

it's not NOTHING, I don't think. THis is the first thing that can arguably be called illegal, if all facts are proven, in this eternal dragnet and witchhunt.

Before this, there really was, literally, NOTHING.

So this is a thing.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:17 PM (PbpT7)

112
You will be stunned at how many Republicans turn on him, when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (pNXT2)

You will be stunned at how many Citizens turn on the Republicans and all of Congress, when push comes to shove.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:17 PM (UsCnO)

113 Trump is not getting impeached.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:07 PM (/tuJf)

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I'm not ready to bet on conviction - not yet, by a long shot - unless something big happens.

But I can't see a way for the Dems to NOT draft Articles. They ran on basically nothing else, and unlike Republicans, Democrats tend to follow through on their agenda relentlessly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2018 06:17 PM (qUh6B)

114 How is this different than the congressional slush fund? I think that might need a full airing and analysis.
Posted by: LASue
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Bwahahahahahahah

You don't understand how this works.

Posted by: The MSM at December 12, 2018 06:17 PM (w54mS)

115

I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.

There may be those days, but I'll wager there aren't many of them. He looks to me like he's having the time of his life.
I bet he knows where a lot of bodies are buried, too. It's like the guards in The Green Mile when they have Percy in the straitjacket after they take the gag out of his mouth, "Do you think we don't know people, too?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:18 PM (HaL55)

116 You know, I'm now kind of hoping that the Dems are stupid enough to go through with impeachment. I have the strong feeling that the whole thing will blow up in their faces the way Clinton's impeachment did for the Republicans. Not only will they really piss off a large segment of the country, it will also have the air of Failure Theater for their base, as they will have to peel off 20 R votes in the Senate in order to get a conviction. That looks insurmountable to me.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 12, 2018 06:18 PM (tfbws)

117 >>I wonder if there are days when Trump wishes he had not gotten himself elected President.

He's the Master of the Universe and he's having a ball.

Shit, he's happier when he's fighting than any other time. He lives for this.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:18 PM (/tuJf)

118 > All in anticipation of 2020. It's the Nixon model.

And then Nixon beat McGovern, 520 electoral votes to 17.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2018 06:18 PM (YLHN9)

119 In order for even the new House to impeach, they need a good political reason for taking said action. They don't have one at this time.

If they move forward with some bullshit, made up "High Crime or Misdemeanor", it dies in the Senate and the Dems can kiss the House goodbye in 2020

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 12, 2018 06:18 PM (ffYR/)

120

Evidently Ace forgot about the new rules on "Whataboutism."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:19 PM (/OSN/)

121 Previously, we could say that not a single illegal act had been alleged.

Now one has been alleged. Though it's a weak one. And again, candidates violate finance rules all the time. THEY JUST ARE FINED.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2018 06:19 PM (PbpT7)

122 Let's give credit where it's due, Karen McDougal is really hot. Well done Donald.

Posted by: Trich at December 12, 2018 06:19 PM (7wCmd)

123 So in 2008, political journalists covering John Edwards suppressed his affair with Rielle Hunter despite them all knowing about it. Then it was exposed, by the National Enquirer, along with Edwards actively soliciting donors for $1M to keep the affair quiet.
He was actually tried for campaign finance violations and it led to a mistrial when the jury deadlocked. Obama's DOJ (surprise!) refused to try him again.
..."We are grateful that the Justice Department, after hearing from the
jury, has dismissed the remaining charges in this case. As we stated in
our motions and arguments in court, the novel theory of campaign law
violations charged by the Justice Department is not a crime," Lowell
said in a statement.

Edwards was accused of soliciting nearly $1 million from two wealthy
donors from 2007 to 2008 and using that money to cover up his affair
with Rielle Hunter while running for president.

His defense team argued that the money was solicited by a rogue aide,
Andrew Young, who pocketed most of the proceeds for himself and that the
cover up was intended only to keep the affair a secret from Edwards'
wife Elizabeth and not to further his political career.

...
So to sum, journalists made in-kind contributions by suppressing the story, Edwards used actual campaign funds to cover it up, the defense argued that was absurd notion of campaign finance law and was successful arguing that to a jury.
But that's none of my business.

Posted by: the dandy at December 12, 2018 06:19 PM (bR08X)

124 Bucktooth DJT Jr (Large Adult Son-1) is sweating hard right now. Smells like fear, Drakkar Noir, and tostitos.

Posted by: Tariff Pikachu at December 12, 2018 06:20 PM (bFOlv)

125 118 Yeah but than they beat Nixon by other means,got control of the house and millions of people died because of it.Tens of millions.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:20 PM (BXMxN)

126 This won't add more time to Cohen's jail sentence, right?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:20 PM (WuwRv)

127 we all know the Dems will start the impeachment proceedings as soon as they've gotten their new name placed installed.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at December 12, 2018 06:15 PM (ZqRa6)

Yes, they will. And the very fact that the proceedings are active will be enough to convince the Susan Collins wing of the GOP.

I'm gonna' go count votes again.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (pNXT2)

128 So we have a troll

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (O2RFr)

129

What's illegal about it?

Since when does a media firm obligated, by law, to publish anything?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (/OSN/)

130 Ace, don't you think Cohen would have admitted this if there was proof?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (PUmDY)

131 " I have the strong feeling that the whole thing will blow up in their
faces the way Clinton's impeachment did for the Republicans"

But with a different order of magnitude. The Clinton impeachment wasn't the culmination of years of lawlessness and BS charges stemming from illegal domestic spying, coinciding with a years-long campaign to label poltical foes nazis. To say people are pissed is an understatement.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (eAshZ)

132 Another Rosenstein hit. When he forced the SDNY USA to recuse, he probably had this plan cooked up then.

Posted by: Ever at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (1Zh0U)

133 Our Winona loving friend is here.Hello cunt.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (BXMxN)

134 104

You will be stunned at how many Republicans turn on him, when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (pNXT2)

And they in turn will be surprised that the term "bulletproof" only applies to their figurative status in a corrupt government.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 06:16 PM (qqEFK)

Yeah, that is about as close as we can get and still not be banned.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (UsCnO)

135 That press release is very confusing as to who did what.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:22 PM (WuwRv)

136 This won't add more time to Cohen's jail sentence, right?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:20 PM (WuwRv)

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It'll subtract time. Mueller wants corroboration, Davis says that he will have full cooperation from Cohen until he starts his sentence.

The implication is clear to me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2018 06:22 PM (qUh6B)

137 And yet not one decent criminal investigation of the Clinton Crime Family.

Where's Huber?

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2018 06:22 PM (Gw964)

138

They thought they were going to win. This was the setup to attack him
after his loss to stop outsiders from ever daring to run again even had
he lost.*ahem*https://gab.com/BackwardsBoy/posts/26570167

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:22 PM (HaL55)

139
Posted by: Tariff Pikachu

The walls are tightening, Dunce.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:22 PM (/OSN/)

140 The Dems will go ahead and try to impeach Trump on anything they can come up with. They will think it's a winning issue for them, because, after all, the MSM will be happy to tell us that the impeachment practically proves Trump is guilty of something that the Repubs in the Senate refused to recognize.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at December 12, 2018 06:22 PM (ZqRa6)

141 Colander face masks for $4.99 at Walmart!

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (qP50E)

142 We already did this with Edwards. Jury said payments to the Baby Mama by a 3rd party to shut her up wasn't a crime. So how can this even be a thing?

I kid, I kid. Fascism has gripped the nation. Where it takes us nobody knows.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 12, 2018 06:13 PM (PvCxa)

The thing with Edwards is that even though he was worth tens of millions, those payments were made by the campaign, itself, not him, personally.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (oRu+u)

143

Pixy's hamsters keep rejecting my posts for "long strings of text." WTF? Anyway, please to be doing the clicking...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (HaL55)

144 Disease carried by pigs?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (PUmDY)

145 Which makes me doubt AMI's story -- Cohen does not seem like the kind of guy who would go to jail if he could just tell the US attorney what he wants to hear.

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Which probably means Cohen knows Trump has exculpatory information.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (Gw964)

146 It's rather confusing but are they alleging Trump paid the $150,000 from campaign money or his own?

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (a0IVu)

147 141 Colander face masks for $4.99 at Walmart!
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (qP50E)

The poseurs will have theirs from Williams Sonoma.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (NWiLs)

148 Colander face masks for $4.99 at Walmart!
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (qP50E)

I really don't understand why they don't market a Face Colander / Chaps Ensemble.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (pNXT2)

149 What's interesting in all this is that President Trump's womanizing was well known before the election and yet, somehow, this is the crime of the century?

Candidate then President Trump has been hounded mercilessly for over 3 years now and it shows no signs of abating.

President Trump is a pretty much a proxy for normal Americans. Horrifying to see the hatred for the average American projected on to one man.

Posted by: Blake - tis the season for grinching at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (qC1Sy)

150 Rush made a good point today about Obama offering to pay Jeremiah Wright $250,000 -- by Wright's own admission -- to keep quiet during his campaign. Wonder when DogEater gets accused of this.

Posted by: ShainS -- #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (wEvS2)

151 Is the SDNY maintaining that Cohen was a part of the Trump campaign? Or is AMI saying they coordinated with someone else?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (WuwRv)

152 Previously, we could say that not a single illegal act had been alleged.

Now one has been alleged. Though it's a weak one. And again, candidates violate finance rules all the time. THEY JUST ARE FINED.

Posted by: ace
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"There's an ongoing criminal investigation!"

Posted by: Uttered by every Dem/MSM talking head at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (HTHlp)

153 http://bit.ly/2zX4kJg
******
Oversight of Nonprofit Organizations: A Case Study on the Clinton Foundation - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
++++++++++
http://bit.ly/2zYBzvF
******
Clinton Whistleblowers: Thursday's Public Hearing to Reveal "Explosive" Information - Sara A. Carter

Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (BqBId)

154 To say people are pissed is an understatement.
Posted by: lurker (the other one) at December 12, 2018 06:21 PM (eAshZ)
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Fingers crossed on that one, Lurker. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (tfbws)

155
And this is the National Enquirer we're talking about?

The wacky alien-baby rumor-mill publication found in supermarkets?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (/OSN/)

156 Colander face masks for $4.99 at Walmart!

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM

Neon yellow vests $6.69 on Amazon. Buy one size larger for ~~rioting~~ protesting during winter months.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (jYje5)

157 That press release is very confusing
--
deliberately so.

Posted by: Kyle R. W. Nestori at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (hrcfq)

158 Wonder when DogEater gets accused of this.
Posted by: ShainS -- #WokeStasi Dragnet Survivor at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (wEvS2)

Huber's on it. These things take TIME, dude.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (pNXT2)

159 For the sake of argument, how would you propose to "split" such a thing?

- An "algorithm" and a database (+ crawler):

How would you split these things? You cannot.
Would you nationalize a database and provide all ventures equal access?

- ~~A customer base~~:

How could this be split as all searches are not equal, unlike phone calls or 110V outlets.

- One might say:

Let us enforce that "algorithms" only reference numbers, search terms and known synonyms, but not ... say "categories".
This seems both impractical, limiting in inovation, and unenforceable (on which machines shall these run and who will check them when?)

... what is the proposal at the denoument of the "argument" ?

Posted by: IndulgeMe ? at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (s+l/S)

160 149 What's interesting in all this is that President Trump's womanizing was well known before the election and yet, somehow, this is the crime of the century?

Exactly. And don't forget the NBC Pussy tape release right before the election

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (O2RFr)

161 155
And this is the National Enquirer we're talking about?

The wacky alien-baby rumor-mill publication found in supermarkets?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (/OSN/)

You're thinking of Weekly World News.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

162 I doubt if the commies can even get a majority in the House next year to vote for impeachment. And even if they did the Senate could not come close to conviction with a 2/3 majority vote. Even Scottish law would not be needed here.

And in doing all this shit the public outside of Whoreywood and NY would be outraged.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (mpXpK)

163 Crime of the century!
Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (BXMxN)

164 "There's an ongoing criminal investigation!"

Posted by: Uttered by every Dem/MSM talking head at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (HTHlp)
..........

The walls are closing in.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (HgMAr)

165 You're thinking of Weekly World News.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

Lol..love their headlines 'woman impregnated by aliens'!!

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (a0IVu)

166 It's rather confusing but are they alleging Trump paid the $150,000 from campaign money or his own?

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:23 PM (a0IVu)

They're claiming that it doesn't matter where the payment came from but that it's an 'unreported campaign expense' since the intention was to [not] affect the campaign. Of course, anything anyone does who eventually runs for an office can be considered a "campaign expense" in such a crazy sort of world.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (oRu+u)

167 It's rather confusing but are they alleging Trump paid the $150,000 from campaign money or his own?

Honestly, I think they are saying that the National Inquirer paid the bunny $150k extra to not talk about the story they already bought the exclusive rights to.

or something. the Press release is pretty minimal on specifics.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (WuwRv)

168 That Trump cheated on his wives and was a pussy hound was well known and the electorate shrugged.

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (BXMxN)

169 163 Crime of the century!
Jonah Goldberg
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (BXMxN)

Shipping bazillions of dollars to Iran to go straight to Hezbollah was the fucking crime of the century.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (NWiLs)

170 124
Bucktooth DJT Jr (Large Adult Son-1) is sweating hard right now. Smells like fear, Drakkar Noir, and tostitos.

Posted by: Tariff Pikachu at December 12, 2018 06:20 PM (bFOlv)

Since the election is over and Soros has temporarily stopped making checks good to these trolls, the new pay is a roll of tokens for the stripper booths at the Adult Show.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:27 PM (UsCnO)

171
Wait, are we supposed to be taking the National Enquirer seriously, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:27 PM (/OSN/)

172 165 You're thinking of Weekly World News.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

Lol..love their headlines 'woman impregnated by aliens'!!
Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:26 PM (a0IVu)

"Gives birth to two-headed Elvis clone!"

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:27 PM (NWiLs)

173 the electorate shrugged

*begins penning sequel*

Posted by: zombie Ayn Rand at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (htqvb)

174 Another thing - could be they are trying to erode the evangelical support for Trump. I don't know how effective that would be. This stuff is already pretty much baked into the cake. However - drip. drip. drip.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (lwiT4)

175 I'd take the National Enquirer more seriously than the NYT.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (NWiLs)

176 Ace, don't you think Cohen would have admitted this if there was proof?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie
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'Proof'?

You crack me up. It is only the accusation that matters. The corrupt DoJ/media handle it from that point forward.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (4bd7D)

177 Save me, Bat Boy!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (WuwRv)

178 171
Wait, are we supposed to be taking the National Enquirer seriously, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:27 PM (/OSN/)

Well, they did get the silky pony mistress love child scoop didn't they?

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (a0IVu)

179 Since the election is over and Soros has temporarily stopped making checks good to these trolls, the new pay is a roll of tokens for the stripper booths at the Adult Show.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:27 PM (UsCnO)

He should at least spring for some mouthwash.

Posted by: BignJames at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (cxHbL)

180

Crime of the century!

Jonah Goldberg

Meh, Supertramp's album was a lot better.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (HaL55)

181 why hasn't Berman been unrecused?

Posted by: Avi at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (kSq2k)

182 Its helpful for Trump that he paid others hush money before the election, which I believe was true. Supports different intent

It may also be true that Stormy and McDougal put out their hands after Trump announced, in which case its blackmail

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (1wmRv)

183 bunch of b.s.

Posted by: was a niner fan, but not anymore at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (LG/rj)

184
It seems the SDNY wants us to believe the Trump campaign COLLUDED with the National Enquirer to pay for Macdougal's story and then sit on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (/OSN/)

185 I'm going to call Don Jr being indicted on or about Christmas.

Articles of impeachment being passed somewhere in the Summer Fall of 2019 and a trial in the Senate beginning just in time for campaign season 2020.

We've been watching this slow motion train wreck for the last two years and we all know the glide path.

I believe the vote to convict in the Senate will be close.

I imagine a scenario where Mitt fucking Romney or Ben Sasses casting the deciding vote with a Ceasarean thumbs down.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (qxq6t)

186 What was the crime?
Because I still have no clue what the crime is.

Posted by: literally serious at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (qN9G0)

187 121 Previously, we could say that not a single illegal act had been alleged.

Now one has been alleged. Though it's a weak one. And again, candidates violate finance rules all the time. THEY JUST ARE FINED.

====

it is weak, fines are usually the outcome

BUT the incoming House Judiciary Chair says this is impeachable.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (7J5t2)

188 Another thing - could be they are trying to erode the evangelical support for Trump. I don't know how effective that would be. This stuff is already pretty much baked into the cake. However - drip. drip. drip.
Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (lwiT4)

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IMO, the Evangelicals that voted for him last time would not abandon him over this. They knew, more or less, what they were getting.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (ffYR/)

189 174 Another thing - could be they are trying to erode the evangelical support for Trump. I don't know how effective that would be. This stuff is already pretty much baked into the cake. However - drip. drip. drip.
Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (lwiT4)

Maybe. But like I've said before, everything they know about evangelicals they learned from Law & Order SVU and the Lifetime Channel.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (NWiLs)

190 Trump is not getting impeached.
Posted by: JackStraw

Oh really? Sez you?

Your batting average about being right about things ain't been so hot lately, sparky.

I say he gets impeached but the Senate will not convict.

It will be nasty and ugly and brutish, but not short.

Politics in this country are going to get a whole lot uglier by 2020.

I also predict at least 3 political assassination attempts on various people between now and Nov. 2020. Democrats and Republicans.

And yes, we will be lucky to live through this.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (S6Pax)

191 Impeachment or not, the Democrats can't possibly think this would be enough to force Trump from office--unless, of course, quisling Republican senators use lowball shit like this as cover to vote against the President.

Do such turncoat GOP senators exist? You bet. Would they vote against a Republican president over such a flimsy pretext? Some of them have been waiting for this opportunity. How do they suppose the President's supporters would react to such a betrayal? Do they even care?

So yeah: interesting times.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (1JpTT)

192 Because I still have no clue what the crime is.

Not being in The Club.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (lwiT4)

193 What was the crime?
Because I still have no clue what the crime is.

Posted by: literally serious at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (qN9G0)

Unreported campaign expenditure. Literally. Seriously.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (oRu+u)

194 Wait, are we supposed to be taking the National Enquirer seriously, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:27 PM (/OSN/)
.........

Well, I hope so.

Posted by: Bat Boy at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (HgMAr)

195 If the law requires proof that helping the campaign was either the sole or the primary motivation, this is BS and the case should crumble faster than the case against Edwards.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (wMHPW)

196 why hasn't Berman been unrecused?

Posted by: Avi at December 12, 2018 06:29 PM (kSq2k)

HE COULD GO ALL THE WAY.

Posted by: BignJames at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (cxHbL)

197 While we're on the subject, don't forget that back in during the 2008 the LA Times suppressed its tape of Obama at a party in 2003 for Rashid Khalidi, buddy of Yasser Arafat. You know, since we're now very concerned about using funds to conceal information that might be damaging to a candidate.

Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (/dUaV)

198 Cohen will hopefully learn that a Cohen NEVER trusts a Muller
NEVER EVER

Posted by: Avi at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (kSq2k)

199 Evangelicals? Like Jerry Falwell Jr banging the pool boy in a reverse Paolo? Ha!! Cuck indeed!

Posted by: Tariff Pikachu at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (bFOlv)

200 Eric Ericsson was saying other day on local radio how the silence of PDT's supporters was damning. He is a turd.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (PUmDY)

201
It's entirely possible the National Enquirer types sat down with this woman and decided her story was hysterical -- in the historical sense of the word. In other words -- in the 'hell hath no fury' like a woman who can't bag a billionaire category.

But they're dashing to the exits without even presenting a defense of their decision not to publish. Some friends.

Posted by: Newest Nic at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (jYje5)

202 192 Because I still have no clue what the crime is.

Not being in The Club.
Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (lwiT4)

You and me both.

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (a0IVu)

203 Ted Cruz is Bat Boy!

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (BXMxN)

204 'Proof'?

You crack me up. It is only the accusation that matters. The corrupt DoJ/media handle it from that point forward.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (4bd7D)

Yup, either admit to this lie, the one we dictate to you, or you go to jail for something that shouldn't even be a crime.

Submit, or we will investigate you forever, with the full Power of the Federal Government.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (NgKpN)

205 Unreported campaign expenditure. Literally. Seriously.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (oRu+u)
........

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (HgMAr)

206 All trolls are Average Joe, who sucks cocks by choice.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (NWiLs)

207 Time to go to war.
Declare sanctuary cities in violation of federal law and arrest every mayor and council member, start the Wall immediately and release the FISA documents. Just a start.

Posted by: Jmel at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (OeWgo)

208 and it's kind of murky.

the law says anything to influence an election is a contribution that must be reported. fine.

but was does influence mean?

it has to have a legal definition or else any personal funds is an influence and needs to be reported or else fines/jail/impeachment

(and note the law is pretty lenient about fines)

and there are exceptions

BUT there has to be, like San Backer says, exceptions and things that don't count.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (7J5t2)

209 But Clinton's 'Bimbo Eruptions' are nothing

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (famYS)

210 Civil War? Ha!

The Deep State leans back in its chair, tilts back its head and laughs loudly and obnoxiously at your empty threats.

We control the guys with the badges and the guns. We control the guys with the keys to the prison cells. We monitor and control all communications, transportation and financial transactions. The mainstream media is our mouthpiece.

Think you can elude us? We knew Jason Bourne. Jason Bourne was an employee of ours. And you ain't no Jason Bourne.

Posted by: The Deep State at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (DuAZ5)

211 everything they know about evangelicals they learned from Law Order SVU and the Lifetime Channel.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (NWiLs)

They need to get out more. I'm practically normal.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (lwiT4)

212 The wacky alien-baby rumor-mill publication found in supermarkets?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

Hey! More people watch "Ancient Aliens" on the History Channel (yuck! yuck Yuck!) than watch CNN.

Am I making this up?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (S6Pax)

213 Didn't Trump spend a hundred million of his OWN money on the campaign?

And isn't the law on paying off bimbos to protect your reputation completely legal?

I thought so.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:33 PM (UsCnO)

214
That's the big whoop here:

SDNY says National Enquirer admitted to paying off Macdougal, and then sitting on her exclusive story...but SDNY is *implying* that the payment and scheme was coordianated with the Trump campaign -- thus being a campaign crime?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:33 PM (/OSN/)

215 when are the snows coming?

Posted by: concrete girl at December 12, 2018 06:33 PM (LG/rj)

216 Trump needs to step up his game, and start Clintoning some of these people.

Posted by: Chris M at December 12, 2018 06:33 PM (dfFWw)

217 the bigger issue is of course:

WAR

and if it's war, then trump should fire the rest of SDNY because they seem to be on a super personal vendetta which, at the end of the day is nonsense, and:

1. a waste of resources
2. biased AF
3. insubordination

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:33 PM (7J5t2)

218 Because I still have no clue what the crime is.

--

Having money - unless you are a noble democrat who needs that money to help people.

Posted by: Kyle R. W. Nestori at December 12, 2018 06:33 PM (hrcfq)

219 193 What was the crime?
Because I still have no clue what the crime is.

Posted by: literally serious at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (qN9G0)

Unreported campaign expenditure. Literally. Seriously.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (oRu+u)

Cohen got 3.years for that? That is a crime? Paying whores a blackmail fee to shut up is a crime?

Posted by: literally serious at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (qN9G0)

220 For some reason I am depressed and filled with foreboding today. Not sure why. Maybe because I can't a hold of my bipolar son and am worried by his not answering our calls. He's been increasingly depressed the last few months. May have to drive over there and see what is up.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (2sCft)

221 Ancestry.com just came out with a report that Karen MacDougal's DNA tested for between 0.5 and 0.12% Russian!

Game over!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (oRu+u)

222 Dear AMI,

Ahoy! Having read your confession to the SDNY Witchfinder General, we like the cut of your jib. Orange Man Bad indeed!

We recently underwent some, er, financial restructuring and are seeking a new benefactor. We understand you are major players in the news publishing space. Care to meet for coffee?

Vaya con The Pablo,

Esteban Hayes,
The Weekly Standard.

XXXOOO

Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (786Ro)

223 I'm disturbed by the lack of Russians being mentioned in this press release.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (WuwRv)

224 also, one exception to what a campaign expense is money to cover a story, so why isn't not covering it?

AKKKSSSUUALLLY,

the $ that trump spent was to obtain the story, so that's an expense that's excepted.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (7J5t2)

225 Bat Boy wouldn't even believe this shit. Which means your average lib would.

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (G+Wff)

226 206
All trolls are Average Joe, who sucks cocks by choice.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (NWiLs)

I thought that was Congressman Eric Swalwell?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (UsCnO)

227 220 For some reason I am depressed and filled with foreboding today. Not sure why. Maybe because I can't a hold of my bipolar son and am worried by his not answering our calls. He's been increasingly depressed the last few months. May have to drive over there and see what is up.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (2sCft)

Ah geez man. God bless you.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (NWiLs)

228 Unreported campaign expenditure. Literally. Seriously.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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Hmm. I thought it was misuse of campaign funds, or, unreported in-kind campaign 'contribution'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (U7Mh9)

229 Ironically, paying hush money to a girlfriend isn't a campaign violation--but the malicious prosecution of it as such is actually an illegal campaign donation to Democrats. The only ones making any illegal campaign contribution are the prosecutors themselves.

If this is a "campaign contribution", so is Brennan's use of foreign spies, Comey's wiretapping, the unmasking at State, the entire Mueller investigation---all of it.

BTW, NY AG just announced she's weaponizing her office to persecute the Trumps, their busineses, employees, anybody and everybody, No crime needed, just all out war.

Okay.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 12, 2018 06:35 PM (Ndje9)

230 Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (2sCft)

Will pray for your son.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2018 06:35 PM (AllCR)

231 SteveOReno - I hope everything is okay with your son. Give us an update later if you can.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)

232 203 Ted Cruz is Bat Boy!
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (BXMxN)

The man knows how to sell sweet chocolate cereal.

Posted by: literally serious at December 12, 2018 06:35 PM (qN9G0)

233 Also, as McCArthy noted before, there's a weird thing where SDNY and Mueller are jumping the federal violations instead of using the intermediate regualatory oversight of the governing agency.

Why didn't the IRS audit MAnafort and fine him?

why isn't the FEC leading this investigation?

very fishy.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (7J5t2)

234 SteveOReno - prayers for you and your family.

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (G+Wff)

235

Here's my only worry:

In that stupid ill-advised questionnaire President Trump answered for Mueller's fake investigations, were specific questions about this stuff.

In other words, that Questionnaire was a PERJURY TRAP. And Trump fell for it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (/OSN/)

236 But Clinton's 'Bimbo Eruptions' are nothing

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (famYS)
.........

To be fair, he is probably shooting blanks.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (HgMAr)

237

Boy trapped in Trump's refrigerator eats own foot!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (q1al1)

238 He might get impeached, but he won't be removed from office by the Senate.

+++

Money talks

Posted by: Total Control Racist at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (z2W2E)

239

Prayers up for your and your son, Steve-O-Reno.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (HaL55)

240 I thought that was Congressman Eric Swalwell?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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Tomato, tomahto

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (U7Mh9)

241 and, for whatever AMI and Cohen etc plead to, they haven't been cross examined. This is meaningless.

I'm sure, even with conspiracy laws, this shit is meaningless.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (7J5t2)

242 So, the alleged crime is not the payment per se, but lack of disclosure? That's it?

Enough for Dems to start up impeachment boogaloo, but still. That's it?

Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (786Ro)

243 For some reason I am depressed and filled with foreboding today. Not sure why. Maybe because I can't a hold of my bipolar son and am worried by his not answering our calls. He's been increasingly depressed the last few months. May have to drive over there and see what is up.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 12, 2018 06:34 PM (2sCft)

-------------

Praying things go well for you, Steve.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (ffYR/)

244 173 the electorate shrugged

*begins penning sequel*
Posted by: zombie Ayn Rand at December 12, 2018 06:28 PM (htqvb)

I laughed. Out loud.

Posted by: Flyover at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (B5K06)

245 "I tell ya, Larry...I was all set to vote for Trump despite his banging all those dozens of women but this Enquirer story about him and a Playboy bunny is just disheartening. I'm going to vote for Hillary!"

Good luck with that fictional premise in the court of public opinion, liberals.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (e6MaC)

246 Thanks for your thoughts and prayers Fen, Grammie and Insomniac. I appreciate it. If O'Reno Jr. doesn't answer phone in the next twenty minutes, I'm heading over there.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (2sCft)

247

The man knows how to sell sweet chocolate cereal.

He's a math whiz, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (HaL55)

248 Google's "Don't Be Evil" motto was marketing bullshit from Day 1, and I knew it. Marketing truly is the 5th Level of Hell.

Posted by: Kingsnake at December 12, 2018 06:38 PM (3JbJY)

249 I would imagine counterpunch is coming next week including a House Cmte referral to the AG Whitaker for criminal prosecutions just like the SSCI did.

Mueller did his best shot and now Uranium 1 and the Clinton Foundation is coming up next week. Mueller better hope that he is clean in Uranium One or he may be answering to a grand jury himself--without a lawyer.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2018 06:38 PM (ROzyM)

250 In coordination?

Is that like in collusion?

Sheesh.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2018 06:38 PM (wMHPW)

251 If O'Reno Jr. doesn't answer phone in the next twenty minutes, I'm heading over there.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 12, 2018 06:37 PM (2sCft)

Sounds like a good idea, if only to set your mind at ease.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:38 PM (lwiT4)

252 We control the guys with the badges and the guns.

Posted by: The Deep State at December 12, 2018 06:32 PM (DuAZ5)

*checks rhe closet*

Wrong again, dickhead. Btw, Jason Bourne is kind of a pussy and Matt Damon can't even stand up to a fat rapist parasite like Harvey Weinstein.

Can't wait for Generation Z to bury your type.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 06:38 PM (qqEFK)

253 Rules for thee and not for me. I was just hoping that the horse-faced mueller would have to resign due to health reasons and it still sticks in my arse that we are paying indirectly for the deep state to oust PDT.

Posted by: auscolpyr at December 12, 2018 06:39 PM (oFsfu)

254
Neon yellow vests $6.69 on Amazon. Buy one size larger for rioting protesting during winter months.
Posted by: Newest Nic at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (jYje5)

I already have one for my job. Ready to go!

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2018 06:39 PM (JPC1r)

255 >>Oh really? Sez you?

Your batting average about being right about things ain't been so hot lately, sparky.

I say he gets impeached but the Senate will not convict.

It will be nasty and ugly and brutish, but not short.

Politics in this country are going to get a whole lot uglier by 2020.

I also predict at least 3 political assassination attempts on various people between now and Nov. 2020. Democrats and Republicans.

>>And yes, we will be lucky to live through this.

Ya, says me.

Let's see how things work out between now and Nov. 2020.

Enjoy the House Oversight Committee hearings tomorrow.

Sparky.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:39 PM (/tuJf)

256 and it still sticks in my arse that we are paying indirectly for the deep state to oust PDT.

Posted by: auscolpyr at December 12, 2018 06:39 PM (oFsfu)

Over the legitimate, and correct, firing of Comey, to boot!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:40 PM (oRu+u)

257 the counterpunches are:

1. FISA stuff
2. we've fired most of comey gang in the FBI
3. Hillary's Perkins' stuff
4. a lot of politicians do this stuff

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (7J5t2)

258

A list of Trump's Top 3 Blunders:

1. Jeff Sessions
2. Not firing Comey on Day 1.
3. Rodenstein

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (/OSN/)

259
I also predict at least 3 political
assassination attempts on various people between now and Nov. 2020.
Democrats and Republicans.

And yes, we will be lucky to live through this.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (S6Pax)

Not getting in the middle of a fight, but Bozo, there have been attempted assassinations already.

Or did you forget the Republican softball practice and Steve Scalise already?

Or doesn't that count?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (UsCnO)

260 But Clinton's 'Bimbo Eruptions' are nothing

Posted by: Anna Puma
--------

$850k paid to Paula Jones was just a private expediency. That, btw, would be $1.3 Million in current $.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (4bd7D)

261 First volley of the impeachment games has been fired. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (0OmEj)

262 Why didn't the IRS audit MAnafort and fine him?

why isn't the FEC leading this investigation?

very fishy.
Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:36 PM (7J5t2)

With the types of dealings Manafort regularly engages in, his returns were surely audit red flags. What Mueller's kangaroo court trial inadvertently proved is just how inept the IRS is.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (y7DUB)

263 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at December 12, 2018 06:30 PM (S6Pax)

Yep, they are going to go all in on this. They'll ignore any Dems doing the same thing and go all in on impeaching Trump. This is all about raw power. There are no rules.

Posted by: WOPR at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (J70i0)

264 Karen McDougal was not just hot, she was probably the hottest Playmate of the Year of all time, and I am very proud to have voted for the man who banged her.

Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:42 PM (/dUaV)

265 Hope everything turns out well, SteveOReno.

Posted by: ALH at December 12, 2018 06:42 PM (cS3Yq)

266 BTW, NY AG just announced she's weaponizing her office to persecute the Trumps, their busineses, employees, anybody and everybody, No crime needed, just all out war.�

Posted by:�The Gipper Lives�at December 12, 2018 06:35 PM (Ndje9)

Crazy eggnogger wants to turn America into South Africa for Christmas? Yeah, my shock is palpable. But here's the thing, the guy with a loyal military can do much, much more damage to the parasite class than they can do to him. Shit, that's not even the only tower he owns!

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 06:42 PM (qqEFK)

267 From a NBC News tweet:

New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James says she plans to launch sweeping investigations into President Trump, his family and "anyone" in his circle who may have violated the law.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status
/1072842278690004992

Gee, and here I thought that you detect a crime or possible crime, then try and find the guilty party/parties. You know, like deleting 33,000 emails in violation of a court order, for example.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 12, 2018 06:42 PM (Z4rgH)

268
I must protest the indiscriminate use of pejoratives like 'pal or sparky' in comments. We're better than this.

Posted by: Concerned Conservative at December 12, 2018 06:42 PM (jYje5)

269 Don't fight with Bozo. He doesn't need a black eye in his wedding pictures.

Posted by: grammie winger, church pirate at December 12, 2018 06:42 PM (lwiT4)

270 what concerns me is they're building the case, as if trump conspired with these folks while they knew they were breaking the law the whole time.

Now, the law is pretty broadly written BUT we've been lead to believe that NDA's are not "to influence an election" expenditures but I haven't found a case or guidance about this but I'm not an election law expert.

But, the troubling thing about the conspiracy charges is that it felonizes the whole activity. which is stupid. but that's what the Preet Geeks in sDNY are aiming for.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:43 PM (7J5t2)

271 Ya know there is another one--Weissberg was at Hillary's victory party. Subpoena all of his emails, raid his house, etc. because was he coordinating the resistance and Trump prosecutions as an insurance policy before the election? Hmmm? Why don't we appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Mueller? Two can play that game.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2018 06:43 PM (ROzyM)

272 Enjoy the House Oversight Committee hearings tomorrow.

Sparky.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:39 PM (/tuJf)

Nothing has come of the hearings with the GOPe in charge. Nothing is going to happen with the Dems coming into power. Really, how many of these miscreants have even been indicted on anything serious?

Posted by: WOPR at December 12, 2018 06:44 PM (J70i0)

273 191 Impeachment or not, the Democrats can't possibly think this would be enough to force Trump from office--unless, of course, quisling Republican senators use lowball shit like this as cover to vote against the President.

Do such turncoat GOP senators exist? You bet. Would they vote against a Republican president over such a flimsy pretext? Some of them have been waiting for this opportunity. How do they suppose the President's supporters would react to such a betrayal? Do they even care?

So yeah: interesting times.
Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (1JpTT)

As has been said before: They REALLY aren't going to like what comes after Trump.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2018 06:45 PM (sdi6R)

274 SteveOReno - hope you get a hold of him soon. My cousin, who is bipolar does this when she stops taking her meds. Just stays in bed, cut off from everyone, super depressed.

Posted by: IC at December 12, 2018 06:45 PM (a0IVu)

275 so Mueller/SDNY are using, at most, a fineable offense as a jumping board to impeachment.

well, set the battle lines.

SDNY thinks they'll still be employed by the time trump leaves office.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:45 PM (7J5t2)

276 161
155

And this is the National Enquirer we're talking about?

The wacky alien-baby rumor-mill publication found in supermarkets?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:24 PM (/OSN/)

You're thinking of Weekly World News.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2018 06:25 PM (NWiLs)
For you young pups National Enquirer was that and more. Really gory stuff. Centerfold frame by frame of an execution by beheading, and a kid that shot an arrow straight up and it came down into the top of his head. yeppers. Good stuff.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 12, 2018 06:45 PM (+6jVU)

277

Another Trump Blunder:

Agreeing to the last CR before the midterms.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:45 PM (/OSN/)

278 As has been said before: They REALLY aren't going to like what comes after Trump.

This!!!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at December 12, 2018 06:46 PM (0OmEj)

279 Government at all levels is corrupt and a criminal enterprise.

I guess the Anarchists in Spain in the 1930's were right after all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2018 06:46 PM (Z+IKu)

280 What comes after Trump?
Huber?

Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:47 PM (786Ro)

281

Rudy Guilliani.
This guy is a fool.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 12, 2018 06:48 PM (/OSN/)

282 With the types of dealings Manafort regularly engages in, his returns were surely audit red flags. What Mueller's kangaroo court trial inadvertently proved is just how inept the IRS is.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 12, 2018 06:41 PM (y7DUB)

Come on... one of the charges was he misrepresented stuff on a LOAN APPLICATION?

And that is now a Federal Offense?

With the complexity of the law now, I would bet that you could find a technical violation of the Law in EVERYONES life, if you dig far enough.

Which is why they are supposed to have probable cause of a CRIME, before they start the investigation... not start with the person and LOOK for the crime.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:48 PM (NgKpN)

283 YAAAAAAAAAAAWN, (CHEESE FART) Anything worth a good shit in that non story

Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (BqBId)

284 If Trump gets impeached from his 2016 term, but he gets re-elected in 2020, he d still be President, right?

Asking for a friend

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (1wmRv)

285 280 What comes after Trump?
Huber?
Posted by: Hands at December 12, 2018 06:47 PM (786Ro)

Hubris comes before Nemesis.

But after Trump, may come Chaos.

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (NgKpN)

286 The commercials for the new movie about Vice President Dick (Dick) Cheney makes President GWB look like a idiot. Why am I not surprised? That 20 semolians is staying in my pocket. That's a trip to Whataburger for Mrs. E and me.

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (zLDYs)

287 I thought it was well known the National Enquirer owner was close to Donald Trump long before the presidential election.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (/rm4P)

288 I guess the Anarchists in Spain in the 1930's were right after all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2018 06:46 PM (Z+IKu)

This just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still not wrong.

Posted by: trev006 at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (qqEFK)

289 ' I am very proud to have voted for the man who banged her.'

I know he's like some kind of superman.

Posted by: freaked at December 12, 2018 06:50 PM (UdKB7)

290 I think it was the National Enquirer that ratted out Gary Hart? Or was it Edwards?

Anyhow, the MSM was stunned that they had been scooped by a tabloid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:50 PM (w54mS)

291 Until both sides have skin in the game, this will not stop.

Posted by: blue at December 12, 2018 06:50 PM (foffp)

292 Come on... one of the charges was he misrepresented stuff on a LOAN APPLICATION?

And that is now a Federal Offense?

Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:48 PM (NgKpN)

If he bought the pen in a different state then it's federal ...

Or it could be that they merely proved that he was breathing some air when he signed the contract that had wafted across state lines. Federal.

Or they proved he was thinking about another state while he signed the contract. Federal.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 12, 2018 06:51 PM (oRu+u)

293 Which is why they are supposed to have probable cause of a CRIME, before they start the investigation... not start with the person and LOOK for the crime.
Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:48 PM (NgKpN)

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We're beyond that now. The AG of NY just announced she is going looking for crimes of Trump and his circle with absolutely no probable cause. Just a witch hunt.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at December 12, 2018 06:51 PM (ffYR/)

294 Nood women's march implosion

Posted by: hogmartin at December 12, 2018 06:51 PM (t+qrx)

295 282
With the complexity of the law now, I would bet that you could find a technical violation of the Law in EVERYONES life, if you dig far enough.

Which is why they are supposed to have probable cause of a CRIME, before they start the investigation... not start with the person and LOOK for the crime.
Posted by: Don Q. at December 12, 2018 06:48 PM (NgKpN)

These are pure Soviet tactics. The Democrat Party may as well officially change their name now. They aren't even bothering to hide what they really are.

Posted by: rickl at December 12, 2018 06:51 PM (sdi6R)

296 YAAAAAAAAAAAWN, (CHEESE FART) Anything worth a good shit in that non story
Posted by: Max BOOThole
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Paprika farts, per Mr. Ace, I believe.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2018 06:52 PM (w54mS)

297 Do such turncoat GOP senators exist? You bet. Would they vote against a Republican president over such a flimsy pretext? Some of them have been waiting for this opportunity. How do they suppose the President's supporters would react to such a betrayal? Do they even care?

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2018 06:31 PM (1JpTT)

Some don't ... they'll do whatever it takes to sink Trump. And besides - they'll convince themselves there won't be a price to pay.

Put me down for Collins, Romney, Lee, Scott, Kennedy, Rubio, Murkowski, Kyle, and Johnson. But Manchin splits from the Dems. I got 55.

Obviously - not an exact science.

Posted by: Del Wilkes at December 12, 2018 06:53 PM (PaMwv)

298
I have been published. The process is:
1. Write
2. Submit
3. Conditional approval
4. Sign off -- they can edit and add/subtract as they see fit or not even publish if the end result isn't something they want or envisioned
5. Once they receive your sign-off you get your check
6. Wait. Maybe you'll be published. Maybe not.

Not sure when it became the law of the land that a publisher had to publish.

Posted by: Newer Nic at December 12, 2018 06:53 PM (jYje5)

299 The good in all this is that I think it brings us closer to the day when Trump says "fuck this shit" and he releases ALL of the FBI/DOJ docs around the dirty FISA warrant. Donny won't go down without a fight.

Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:54 PM (/dUaV)

300 he commercials for the new movie about Vice President Dick (Dick) Cheney makes President GWB look like a idiot. Why am I not surprised? That 20 semolians is staying in my pocket. That's a trip to Whataburger for Mrs. E and me.
Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2018 06:49 PM (zLDYs)

Save it for Godzilla: king of the Monsters

Posted by: auscolpyr at December 12, 2018 06:54 PM (oFsfu)

301 >>Nothing has come of the hearings with the GOPe in charge. Nothing is going to happen with the Dems coming into power. Really, how many of these miscreants have even been indicted on anything serious?

Almost nothing ever comes out of the hearings other than public knowledge. I've been saying this forever.

The whistleblowers who are testifying tomorrow have turned over thousands of pages to the IRS and to the FBI over a year ago. This has been hinted at for months and reported on by at least two reporters last night, Sara Carter and John Solomon. That's how long the investigations have been going on.

They will testify tomorrow about corruption including pay for play and numerous IRS violations at the Clinton Foundation. That's what the hearings are good for, finding out what is and has been going on in investigations the media, for some shocking and totally impossible to understand, don't report on.

Read what Sara Carter is reporting.

https://tinyurl.com/y9hgjqdn

Or listen to that noted RINO and leftist Mark Meadows.

Skip to the 15:00 minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSwA91kVZd4

Meadows has been one of the most vocal people in Congress for the last 2 years saying in affect "Nothing is happening!". He finally acknowledges that yep, it is indeed happening.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2018 06:55 PM (/tuJf)

302 I don't know if civil war is imminent, but I do believe that the Cloud People do not understand what they're messing with.

Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:55 PM (/dUaV)

303

I personally think this in particular will be a nuisance at worse, but some in MAGA-world are panicking. Posobiec in particular is saying his sources claim Mueller will accuse Trump/Campaign of conspiracy with Russia with evidence of emails and such evidence of quid pro quo with Russia to drop sanctions in return for help getting elected. I remain skeptical and think it will amount to speculative chatter from campaign peeps that is blown out of proportion without context. I really doubt Trump himself was in on any "conspiracy to defraud US Govt" in any event.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 12, 2018 06:55 PM (sKCK0)

304 The Ds will argue that but for Trump paying hush money in violation of FERC laws, the revelations would have tanked his election. Ergo he stole the election. Ergo the only remedy is to kick him out of ofice with impeachment

Some might argue that revelations about McDougal would have gotten out more male vote. Hubba hubba

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 12, 2018 06:56 PM (1wmRv)

305 @303 Posobiec in particular is saying his sources claim Mueller will accuse Trump/Campaign of conspiracy with Russia with evidence of emails and such evidence of quid pro quo with Russia to drop sanctions in return for help getting elected.

I find it impossible to believe that any smoking gun emails like that would not have already been leaked. An explicit quid-pro-quo? Mueller wouldn't have even bothered with prosecuting Manafort if he had that.

Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:58 PM (/dUaV)

306 Wait, isn't AMI where Goldberg showcases his "Dear Jonah" column covering eroticism, fetishism and current political NeverTrump events in DC?

Posted by: Fritz at December 12, 2018 06:59 PM (Z9C5C)

307 304 The Ds will argue that but for Trump paying hush money in violation of FERC laws, the revelations would have tanked his election. Ergo he stole the election. Ergo the only remedy is to kick him out of ofice with impeachment

Some might argue that revelations about McDougal would have gotten out more male vote. Hubba hubba

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she hot.

also, trump could say I already had pussy grabbing and YOU KNOW WHAT LOOK AT THE BITCHES I HAVE BEEN BANGING

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 06:59 PM (7J5t2)

308 What comes after Trump?
..........

KAOS

Posted by: Hymie the Robot at December 12, 2018 07:01 PM (HgMAr)

309 304 The Ds will argue that but for Trump paying hush money in violation of FERC laws, the revelations would have tanked his election. Ergo he stole the election. Ergo the only remedy is to kick him out of ofice with impeachment

Some might argue that revelations about McDougal would have gotten out more male vote. Hubba hubba
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 12, 2018 06:56 PM (1wmRv)

a HUGE problem with that theory... These payments happened close enough to election day that they would not even need to be reported until well after everyone voted. * shrugs *

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 12, 2018 07:03 PM (sKCK0)

310 Related to the hotness of Karen McDougal, you know when Comey set up Trump by briefing him on the Steele Dossier, the only thing Comey mentioned specifically to Trump was the pee-pee tape.

Imagine being Trump and looking across at Comey when he says that, and thinking to yourself, "Comey, you idiot. I'm Donald J. Trump. I only bang top-shelf pussy. My wife is a model and she replaced my previous wives who were models. Hotter women than you ever knew chase after ME. And you believe that I came anywhere near a couple of two-ruble Russian skanks, let alone made them engage in anything unsanitary? My God, my FBI director is an idiot. And nearly a virgin."

Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 07:04 PM (/dUaV)

311 a HUGE problem with that theory... These payments happened close enough to election day that they would not even need to be reported until well after everyone voted. * shrugs *

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wow. good point

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 07:04 PM (7J5t2)

312 Imagine being Trump and looking across at Comey when he says that, and thinking to yourself, "Comey, you idiot. I'm Donald J. Trump. I only bang top-shelf pussy. My wife is a model and she replaced my previous wives who were models. Hotter women than you ever knew chase after ME. And you believe that I came anywhere near a couple of two-ruble Russian skanks, let alone made them engage in anything unsanitary? My God, my FBI director is an idiot. And nearly a virgin."

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trump came away from his meeting with comey with the impressions that:

1. he a weirdo

2. he's corrupt

3. he's out to get me

4. I need to fire this weirdo

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 07:05 PM (7J5t2)

313 and the legal theories the left would like us to work under is:

1. if the potus thinks a law enforcement agent is corrupt and insubordinate, using his constitutional powers to fix that is obstruction.

2. hush money is now illegal

3. trump and a coupla folks knew they were violating the law in such as manner so as to make it a criminal conspiracy (which is covered by a different federal statute than the FEC laws).

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 07:07 PM (7J5t2)

314 So when do we start the, um, interesting part?

Because if we're not willing to start that part, none of this outrage means much...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at December 12, 2018 07:08 PM (vcatx)

315 With the types of dealings Manafort regularly engages in, his returns
were surely audit red flags. What Mueller's kangaroo court trial
inadvertently proved is just how inept the IRS is.
Or show how easy it is to convict a lawyer if you unconstitutionally seize all their documents from all their clients to look for a crime?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2018 07:08 PM (Evws/)

316 I must protest the indiscriminate use of pejoratives like 'pal or sparky' in comments. We're better than this.
Insiders tell me Jeff Sessions will get on that right away.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 12, 2018 07:10 PM (Evws/)

317 so what were the dates of the payment vs the election?

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 07:12 PM (7J5t2)

318 BUT IT IS HILLARY's TURN!!!

Never forget this...

Posted by: Constantine XI at December 12, 2018 07:19 PM (yiAMj)

319 I find it impossible to believe that any smoking gun emails like that would not have already been leaked. An explicit quid-pro-quo? Mueller wouldn't have even bothered with prosecuting Manafort if he had that.
Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:58 PM (/dUaV)

I have a small suspicion that they do have ILLEGALLY obtained intercepts made before any warrants/FISAs and they are trying to pry out legitimate evidence from Manafort and others in order to replace the tainted evidence. ... or some chatter from Russians on a plan to deal with Trump campaign but which never actually materialized (but FBI and DOJ won't let it go).

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 12, 2018 07:19 PM (sKCK0)

320 Posted by: Brewdog at December 12, 2018 06:58 PM (/dUaV)
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Posobiec is a DOLT

Posted by: Max BOOThole at December 12, 2018 07:19 PM (BqBId)

321 conspiracy to blackmail is what I hear. time to round up these blackmailers.

Posted by: TX 32 orphan at December 12, 2018 07:23 PM (Wa5hI)

322 No flaming skull for noting the formal start of Civil War .
Odd that.

Posted by: Getting that yellow vest feeling again at December 12, 2018 07:24 PM (FUJZT)

323 Investigate the Clintons? Hell, it would be a walk in the park.

Posted by: Burger Chef at December 12, 2018 07:25 PM (RuIsu)

324 Let's see ... an extremely powerful government entity says, "Agree to say X and I'll leave you alone. Refuse to say it, and I'll make your life a living hell." Of course one testifies to X.
You realize, of course, that by this standard, *any* spending on *anything* that may influence the outcome of a election becomes a "campaign contribution". By that standard, Trump should be prosecuted for not declaring his toupee, because by wearing it he influenced, however slightly, the outcome of the election.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 12, 2018 07:28 PM (S6ArX)

325 Has anyone mentioned there were upwards of 40 women claiming he s sexually assaulted them?

Most of them disappeared right after the election.

Am I the only one remembering this?

Anyway that certainly counts as an attempt to influence the election.

Posted by: MAGA at December 12, 2018 07:28 PM (tKVmr)

326 Just a reminder that their attacks on Trump are attacks on us because they hate us.

Donald Trump put it all on the line when he ran and even more so when he became the clear front runner. I remember in the last couple of weeks of the general the comments that he HAD to win because if he didn't they were going to put him and his family's lights out.

They want to drive him out of office and then they're coming for us.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 12, 2018 07:29 PM (4ErVI)

327 little did they realize that they were digging their own graves for their thumbs

Posted by: x at December 12, 2018 07:44 PM (nFwvY)

328 Despite all the heated talk in comment-threads across the blogosphere and the protestations of could-be leaders like Kurt Schlichter, Mark Steyn, Jimmy Hoft, or Glenn Reynolds, we'll all just roll over, take it in the ass, let our families be destroyed, our careers laid waste, and will report dutifully to the reeducation camps for proper "disposal".

We all know this.

Posted by: Narrator Voice at December 12, 2018 07:45 PM (Nt/TS)

329 and I repeat myself, but they're trying to say, get them to say, that they all knew it was a violation of campaign finance laws. knew. something that was not a violation.

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 07:46 PM (7J5t2)

330 espite all the heated talk in comment-threads across the blogosphere and the protestations of could-be leaders like Kurt Schlichter, Mark Steyn, Jimmy Hoft, or Glenn Reynolds, we'll all just roll over, take it in the ass, let our families be destroyed, our careers laid waste, and will report dutifully to the reeducation camps for proper "disposal"

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it's a problem

Posted by: billionaires! At the bottom of it all! at December 12, 2018 07:46 PM (7J5t2)

331 I thought Dershowitz dismissed this as a non-issue days ago, saying Trump had the right to pay off the women to protect his family as a private citizen, which he was at the time.

Posted by: Avenger at December 12, 2018 08:00 PM (70ScF)

332 Wait -- I thought paying women to shut up was perfectly fine. That's what was determined when it came to Edwards.

Posted by: Poster Guy at December 12, 2018 08:04 PM (+7Zcd)

333 "If there is not such contemporaneous documentary evidence... well."

-- I have money on several "memos to selves" appearing.

Posted by: Poster Guy at December 12, 2018 08:10 PM (+7Zcd)

334 "Wouldn't the Enquirer make more than $150,000 if they DID publish this story?"

-- I doubt it. It isn't like people didn't know Trump was a cheating husband. Hell, I'm pretty sure people already knew about this particular affair.

Posted by: Poster Guy at December 12, 2018 08:13 PM (+7Zcd)

335 He vas not HELPFUL, despite our best torture *ahem* convincing methods. He must be punished to set an example for future victims *ahem* defendants....

Posted by: TXMarko at December 12, 2018 08:18 PM (BhgUj)

336 Oh how I will enjoy seeing all of their hearts break as they slowly begin to realize that we really don't give a shit about any of this and neither will most people.

Posted by: TheBriBear at December 12, 2018 08:28 PM (k25J6)

337 I am personally hoping the President himself answers any questions on this...by simply laughing right in their face for twenty minutes.

Posted by: Doc O'Badman at December 12, 2018 08:57 PM (al2Cf)

338 As has already been said above (probably), one of the many infuriating things about this is how corrupt the language is. From the press release: "As a part of the agreement, AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate's presidential campaign..."

No, when another party is involved, and there is no trial, it's not an ADMISSION...it's an [forced] ACCUSATION. I can't 'admit' to the DOJ that me and Trump killed 200 hobos for their skin...without a trial - in court.

That's not how any of this works.

(So much Soviet history repeating itself)

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 12, 2018 09:18 PM (gWaRo)

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