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Trump Speech/Music Thread/Book Club Thread

So people were having fun talking about music in an unrelated threat earlier. You can use this one to start that up again if you like. The topic we were on were Worst/Most Overrated Bands of the 80s, but obviously you can talk about whatever you want.

I read Jazz Shaw's post today about teenagers no longer reading, and the idea (which I can attest to personally) that when you stop reading, your skill at it diminishes. (As do all skills.)

I should say that while I crapped out on Hound of the Baskervilles last time, I just went through it in a couple or three nights. So... I guess by reading I've refurbished my diminished skill in reading a bit?

With that in mind, any idea for a Book Club read? Here's my thought: I'd like to pick a short book, because, well, we all know, I have been pretty unreliable on this score.

I don't want to do a Bart Simpson Book Report on a book I didn't actually finish.

I had a couple of ideas, Treasure Island or Jekyll and Hyde, but I don't know if Treasure Island would hold up, and I've tried to get through Jekyll before and found it pretty lame.

Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 08:09 PM




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1 Bigly.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (mgpkf)

2 I'm waiting for CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY by Ethan Van Sciver.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (mgpkf)

3 >>Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?


Superfudge?

Posted by: Judy Bloom at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (m6d+0)

4 For classics?

Dracula is pretty breezy.

Anything by Larry Corriea is gonna knock your fucking socks off.

Monster Hunter International or Hard Magic.

Brandon Sanderson is fun, too. He writes spunky chix. I like spunky chix.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (Zogyx)

5 I just read MASTER AND COMMANDER by Patrick O'Brien. A delightful work of historical fiction and there seem to be about ten sequels which I'll be wolfing down in the coming months. (The movie they made of it seems to be a mix of stuff from more than one of the books.)

Posted by: joeclark at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (JZf1/)

6 Oh who am I kidding, just pick up an old Penthouse Letters.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (Zogyx)

7 classics have the advantage of being either free or had for fifty cents.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (PA9oZ)

8 OT but I just ripped one so bad the couch seat sagged a couple of inches.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:15 PM (Zogyx)

9 >>classics have the advantage of being either free or had for fifty cents.


Sandra Fluke Sock Status : Classic

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (m6d+0)

10 yeah i don't want to do something of this era. With a classic there are two reasons to read it: it's fun and you like it, AND it's a classic you're supposed to have read. Even if the first one fails, you have the second one.

Modern books don't have that advantage. If someone doesn't like it, then they've just spent $15 for nothing.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (PA9oZ)

11 Pelosi official statement does not mention impeachment.

Hmmm

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (MAstk)

12 Hells Angels, HST

Posted by: Nuclearjim at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (gVRcP)

13 Overrated 80s Band?

Van Halen.


What should we do next?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (m6d+0)

14 It has to be fiction?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (BQPBQ)

15 Space Force roomy

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (YEriz)

16 Of course I'd love you to read one my books, but you could always pretend to have read Moby Dick!

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (QE8X6)

17 >>>14 It has to be fiction?
Posted by: CN

yeah I think so. Nonfiction starts splitting the field up too much.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (PA9oZ)

18 There's also Spice & Wolf by Isuna Hasekura.

It's a light novel series!anout 200 pages a book.

It's about a traveling merchant trying to bang an ancient fox god turned fox girl.

It's great!

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (Zogyx)

19 I have to resort to digital downloads from the library to avoid fronting $15 for a book that will wind up having bullshit leftist talking points in it because the author just can't keep it apolitical like he used to.

Yes, I'm looking at YOU Michael Connelly, you stupid fat fuckstick.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (+dsLj)

20 Evening, all.

What about Animal Farm? Or The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe? Or Huckleberry Finn?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (SRarZ)

21 I thought you wanted to do this with the Jordan Peterson book, ace.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (JJZzu)

22 The Hobbit was one of my favorite books growing up. If for some reason you missed reading it.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (UfkIY)

23 >>10 yeah i don't want to do something of this era. With a classic there are two reasons to read it: it's fun and you like it, AND it's a classic you're supposed to have read. Even if the first one fails, you have the second one.


Oh. Just saw this. A classic that often reminds me of you is Tristram Shandy. I promise you, you will not be bored.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (QE8X6)

24 17: ok, how about Hemingway or Waugh?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (BQPBQ)

25 Uh Robert, it is Spice + Wolf because Holo is a wolf-deity. Not a fox.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (YEriz)

26 Or, even shorter/easier what if we did some short stories...stuff by Ray Bradbury or Lovecraft? I have a huge interest in Sci-Fi and horror and I love to read short stories in those genres.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (SRarZ)

27 23 Tristram Shandy works

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (BQPBQ)

28 Books for every Moron/ette library:

Road to serfdom - Hayek
Virtue of the anointed - Sowell
Race and Culture - Sowell
Bell curve - Murray

Collected works of Raymond Chandler (2 volume set)
Tom Jones - Fielding
Memoirs of Benevenuto Cellini
Boyd, the Fighter Pilot who Changed the World

Posted by: Slash Buzz at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (mVSBa)

29

Cowboy Poetry

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (uPlWr)

30 Are Archie comics considered short books? The Hulk?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (EPnrI)

31 So what was the consensus opinion on the worst/most overrated bands of the 80s?

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (jm1YL)

32 Space Grifters a Rex Nihilo adventure

Funny story, makes fun of Star Wars.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (dKiJG)

33 LMAO artisanal 'ette!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (SRarZ)

34 Seuss or Schulz? Discuss.

Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (Tyii7)

35 I stumbled across an old book of the "Complete works of Edgar Allen Poe' published in 1876 I think. 1000-1100 pages maybe. Never thought I'd jump into something so deep but was very interesting and I think the last work in the book had
some crypto-mathematecal work in it that supposedly became the background on the US dechipering the German navy in WWI. Wish I still had the book.

Posted by: DBCooper at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (pUzbW)

36 You know what book I've read so many times and I still want to read it again?


Gateway. Frederick Pohl. Maybe the best Sci-Fi ever.

The sequels are pretty good too.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (NLLmE)

37 Ref reading skills.

When I read "Road to Serfdom" a few years back it seemed HARD. After a few chapters it wasn't. The book hadn't changed. I relearned reading skills - I hadn't read a lot of books for awhile. He wrote that in the early 40s and people read more then.

Quite a few years earlier, something like that happened when I went on a C.J. Cherryh binge and read 25 or 30 of her novels in a row. I felt "different" after that.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (dg/6R)

38 Perhaps we could read Camp of the Saints. I've heard it mentioned as being relevant a lot here.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (DzFIB)

39 Well Ace could read Little Fuzzy by H Beam Piper

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18137/18137-h/18137-h.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (YEriz)

40 How about the Crying of Lot 49?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (PUmDY)

41 Uh Robert, it is Spice + Wolf because Holo is a wolf-deity. Not a fox.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (YEriz)

I can type or I can fart but I have a hard time doing both at once.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (Zogyx)

42 So what was the consensus opinion on the worst/most overrated bands of the 80s?
Posted by: Tuna at August




everything from the 90s.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (MTjB1)

43 #20 Orwell...GREAT pick. #28. How about Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt?

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (mgpkf)

44 Or Joseph Conrad?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (BQPBQ)

45 Tony Hillerman. Just do it.

Posted by: Bookguy at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (Ffwmb)

46 Iron Heel by Jack London...

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (mgpkf)

47 Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades



The Prince

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

48 20 Orwell...GREAT pick. #28. How about Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt?
Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (mgpkf)
++++++++
Hazlitt is worth reading. His analysis of Keynes is quite readable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (I2dne)

49

Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)

50 >> 17: ok, how about Hemingway or Waugh?
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (BQPBQ)


Hmmm...that's an interesting pairing. Evelyn and Ernest. Muscle and, well...oh, never mind.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (QE8X6)

51 Aha, that would work!

> 47 Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades

The Prince
Posted by: ?

Posted by: ArthurK at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (dg/6R)

52 I can't pick on music from the 80s...

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (mgpkf)

53 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)
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En francais.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (JJZzu)

54 My 17 yo old daughter, forever bucking all trends, averages 2-3 books per week, and I am always building more shelves for her....

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (x7rWu)

55 Oh no, do not read Gateway unless you really want to read about a dystopian future where Humans knowingly take possible suicide rides in abandoned alien spaceships on the off chance of finding riches.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (YEriz)

56 I tried re-reading Heart of Darkness a while back, which I loved in HS, but couldn't get into it again. He's also said by others to not be a great technical writer so I don't know if Conrad would grab enough people.

Maybe a Hemingway. Unless that's too butch for the wamen. (Might be too butch for me, too. I re-read the Son Also Rises. It's about fucking, drinking, fishing and bullfighting.)

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (PA9oZ)

57 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

I had to read that in 8th grade. Couldn't make it all the way through.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (6Zmow)

58 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)
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En francais.
Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (JJZzu)

Le Prince?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (DzFIB)

59 En francais.
Posted by: bluebell at August




Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (MTjB1)

60 "Lydia Bailey" by Kenneth Roberts. My Dad read the cover off of it and he didn't read.

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (cSfOv)

61 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezywTzz7hY0

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (Zogyx)

62 The Creature from Jekyll Island

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (sdi6R)

63 i don't want to do politics or political theory. it's my job!

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (PA9oZ)

64 Did somebody say "Moby Dick"???

https://tinyurl.com/ydad28uv

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (jDF8P)

65 My 17 yo old daughter, forever bucking all trends, averages 2-3 books per week, and I am always building more shelves for her....
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (x7rWu)
+++++++++
I like AoS but I have trouble engaging in a community that is part (if not the heart) of the Global Shelvist Conspiracy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (I2dne)

66 I tried to reread Leviathan recently. Didn't go well.
Itz haird too rede wiff non-standrd spulleng.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (Iccum)

67 classics have the advantage of being either free or had for fifty cents.


Oh, I've been going through "free classic books on kindle" to get exposure to all kinds of people I keep hearing about but have never read.

A lot of it doesn't hold up.

Anyway, it won't be free but I recommend the long two part short story, or short novella if you prefer, "The Big Two-Hearted River" by Ernest Hemingway.

It's short and compact and it's brilliant. It will take longer to talk about than to read. It's the best piece of short fiction in the American language.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (fuK7c)

68 Upvote for the Camp of the Saints - 40 years ahead of its time.

Atlas Shrugged was another book that, being about human nature, is astonishingly prescient. You can read todays NYT headlines in a book written over 60 years ago...

Posted by: Slash Buzz at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (mVSBa)

69 Mister Metokur dropped a new vidya.

https://youtu.be/85WgYkMbHBA

Worth a watch, because intersectionality, furries, and vidya gaming.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (fA1SL)

70 Books: I've been on a Daniel Silva binge lately. Mossad agent aka fine art restorer aka assasin. I recommend him highly.


Music: Hey, I may be old, but I had all the good music.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (lwiT4)

71 53 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (6Zmow)

72 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (NLLmE)

73 Whenever anyone asks, I say I'm reading an anthology of Gogol's short stories. That usually ends the conversation.

But if they persist, I say "According to Dostoevsky, all of Russian literature came out of Gogol's Overcoat.... " And that settles their hash.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (7PllL)

74

fucking, drinking, and bullfisting?

Must have been one of Papa's later works...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (qul7b)

75 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Sigh.

Posted by: A Dead Horse at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (Tyii7)

76 Probably the most purely fun series I've ever read was The Deathstalker Chronicles by Simon R. Green. Just classic rollicking, swashbuckling, over-the-top space opera with likeable characters rattling off cool, witty dialogue while fighting for their lives against impossible odds.

The books are mostly around 500 pages each, IIRC, but they're quick reads. Highly recommended!

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson, edited for TV at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (wSC8T)

77 Le Prince?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (DzFIB)
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Le Petit Prince, actually. Maybe he meant a different book.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (JJZzu)

78 Swiss Family Robinson?

Robinson Crusoe?

Mainly so the Horde can explain all the survival things that they do wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (dEQP3)

79 >>>
Anyway, it won't be free but I recommend the long two part short story, or short novella if you prefer, "The Big Two-Hearted River" by Ernest Hemingway.

It's short and compact and it's brilliant. It will take longer to talk about than to read. It's the best piece of short fiction in the American language.

...

duly noted. I'll look it up as a possibility.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (PA9oZ)

80 I am ELITE! Also, full of gin.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (lwiT4)

81 56 As an ette I love Hemingway

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (BQPBQ)

82 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

I had to read that in 8th grade. Couldn't make it all the way through.
Posted by: ALH at August




I read david copprfield in one night on a bet with my english teacher.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (MTjB1)

83 >>2 I'm waiting for CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY by Ethan Van Sciver.

I was too late to catch that or Iron Sights but will get Jaw Breakers and Space Force

Posted by: perfectly harmless candiru at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (YR7aL)

84 Oh no, do not read Gateway unless you really want to read about a dystopian future where Humans knowingly take possible suicide rides in abandoned alien spaceships on the off chance of finding riches.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (YEriz)
+++++++++++
I like Gateway, and some of its sequels are quite good. For SciFi though, my preference is Heinlein and Philip K. Dick. Although PKD is more "completely bonkers" than "SciFi" per se. Interesting read regardless, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (I2dne)

85 49 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)

So overrated that I'm listening to the White Album right now. Waiting for your knock, dear!

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (QE8X6)

86 Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe series are all fairly short books. Very enjoyable.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (gC2IV)

87 I reread Treasure Island every fall. Never gets old.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (mxvSl)

88 Pelosi official statement does not mention impeachment.

Hmmm
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (MAstk)

-------------

She is insane about most things, but even so she has been saying Dems need to move on from impeachmeng for a while now.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (I16G8)

89
I read david copprfield in one night on a bet with my english teacher.
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (MTjB1)

Showoff.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (6Zmow)

90 Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH
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Children! Beware of the baobabs!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (9rIkM)

91 56 As an ette I love Hemingway
Posted by: CN at August



what is so special about his way?




counterclockwise swirl?

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (MTjB1)

92 off pervy fish sock

Posted by: bananaDream at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (YR7aL)

93 The Death Of Ivan Ilyich, which is a short Tolstoy. About 100 pages.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (xPl2J)

94 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM

Dude had issues.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (mxvSl)

95 Off, melon-farming sock!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Super-Elite at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (wSC8T)

96 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (NLLmE)
+++++++++
There's a large public park/space named after him in Wales. Something of a national literary hero, by my understanding.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (I2dne)

97 Read the Three Musketeers in college and found it riveting and surprisingly funny.

Posted by: En_Garde! at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (F9FuN)

98 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)



I do believe we're going to have a problem here.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (lwiT4)

99 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)


or, The Little Prince (Le Petit Prince for Ace)

very small book
delightful

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (uPlWr)

100 Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH




not the one Machiavelli wrote and not the one that I sleep with on my nightstand

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (MTjB1)

101 90Always preferred Wind, Sand, and, Stars...

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (BQPBQ)

102 Here is a question to ponder, does Joe Halderman's science fiction novel The Forever War hold up?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (YEriz)

103 My 17 yo old daughter, forever bucking all trends, averages 2-3 books per week, and I am always building more shelves for her....

****************

Thank God it's not ace doing that.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (+dsLj)

104 "The Theory and Practice of Hell" by Eugen Kogon.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (EoRCO)

105 War with the Newts by Karel Capek (also wrote the short story RUR). I like dystopia but before YA fiction made it trendy.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (mgpkf)

106 Google up top 25 short novels for suggestions. I think you did The Lottery already right? How about The Monkey's Paw? The Occurrence?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (2DOZq)

107 "Chrome Yellow" by Huxley was a fun and short read (probably 50 years ago for me).

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (cSfOv)

108 Trying to remember all of the crap they forced me to read in high school. I remember I hated most of it, but I can't recall if that is because I was forced to read it, or because I really hated it.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (SRarZ)

109 I never tire of One Fish, Two Fish...

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (Tyii7)

110 Anything by Dr. Seuss.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (6Zmow)

111 He's done. He ought to have been a preacher. He has the gift.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (lwiT4)

112 #80 Victory Gin?

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (mgpkf)

113 Absalom! Absalom!

Worth a read. I read it at least once a year.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (fA1SL)

114 not the one Machiavelli wrote and not the one that I sleep with on my nightstand
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (MTjB1)
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yep, I had the wrong one.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (JJZzu)

115 Metamorphosis

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (2DOZq)

116
I read david copprfield in one night on a bet with my english teacher.
Posted by: ?


David Copperfield made my book disappear.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (IqV8l)

117 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

I had to read that in 8th grade. Couldn't make it all the way through.
Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM

It easn't all that I'd hoped for.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (mxvSl)

118 Hey, here's a good one: Kant's "Critique of Pure Judgment." Just see if you can figure out what the hell he's talking about.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (QE8X6)

119 What about Ray Bradbury?

(sorry I am a classic sci-fi fangirl)

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (SRarZ)

120 Always preferred Wind, Sand, and, Stars...

Posted by: CN
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Agreed! For me, one of the best books ever about flying.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (9rIkM)

121 I never tire of One Fish, Two Fish...
Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden

Glad that Audible subscription is paying off.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (Iccum)

122 yep, I had the wrong one.
Posted by: bluebell at August



Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (MTjB1)

123 Most overrated band? Green Day. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (c056A)

124 Trump just finished his speech.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

125 How is that senatorial candidate doing ? any chance he will replace manchin ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (bUjCl)

126 I don't want to read anything the elites read. No Catcher in the Rye crap. Or Moby Dick.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (lwiT4)

127 115. The Trial, also good.

And The Castle.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (fA1SL)

128 Willowed from last thread...Missed what Trump said about censorship. Anyone catch what he said?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (hECVl)

129 The Great Gatsby...F. Scott.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (mgpkf)

130 I read a Roald Dahl story once called The Great Switcheroo. It's about two guys who concoct a plan to switch beds in the middle of the night and have sex with the other's wife without the wives finding out.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (xPl2J)

131 The bridge of San Luis Rey

Posted by: NCKate at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (ej/4k)

132 Slash Buzz- you mean "The Vision of the Anointed", one of Sowell's best. I also really enjoyed and recommend Sowell's "A Conflict of Visions". He describes history as a never ending political conflict between the unrestrained vision (aka utopianism) and the restrained vision (the realists).

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (4YHTV)

133 Boyd, the Fighter Pilot who Changed the World

Posted by: Slash Buzz at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM

went to amazon
read the blurb
bought the kindle edition, price no object
this looks like something I have to read
just hope I'm not disappointed.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (I9Sw7)

134 The Paul Simon set list on his farewell tour now are great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (PUmDY)

135 The Art of the Deal.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (6Zmow)

136 Harold And The Purple Crayon.

Posted by: Corona at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (MceDl)

137 How about a Travis McGee book? I'm starting "A Purple Place for Dying" tonight.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodwicz at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (jkztu)

138 Short, classic, fun, relevant... Animal Farm.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (PFd3d)

139 Short Book ...

... Starship Troopers. And just about every chapter is worth a discussion.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (fiGNd)

140 I'd like to read Camp of the Saints

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (IDhUW)

141 #123 Pearl Jam (BLAH). I like the Counting Crows...Palisades Park.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (mgpkf)

142 120; pure joy

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (BQPBQ)

143 #134 Graceland is a great / timeless album.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (mgpkf)

144 Earnest Hemingway was an overly verbose blowhard.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (gC2IV)

145 My tummy hurts. I ate too much today.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (6Zmow)

146 War and Peace Cliff Notes

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (2DOZq)

147 read a Roald Dahl story once called The Great Switcheroo. It's about two guys who concoct a plan to switch beds in the middle of the night and have sex with the other's wife without the wives finding out.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM

Read Pig. Like I said...dude had issues. And a dark sense of humor.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (mxvSl)

148 I just bought the book, "I'm Dead. Now What?" It might prove useful to any number of people.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (lwiT4)

149 Still LOVE Pink Floyd...have seen Waters and Gilmour.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (mgpkf)

150 Willowed from last thread...Missed what Trump said about censorship. Anyone catch what he said?

*****************

He said essentially that people have a right to speak freely without being deplatformed and that as much as he despised fakenews you have to have them around, people's voices cant be censored just because you dont like what they say.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (+dsLj)

151 The author of The Little Prince Antoine de Saint-Expurey vanished in 1944 on a combat mission whilst flying a Lockheed F-5 Photo-recon Lightning.

https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/lockheed-f-5b-lightning/

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (YEriz)

152

Sodomy Jones and the Temple of Poon by Lance Hardthrust is a classic manga read. Watch out for the popup tentacles though.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (qul7b)

153 94 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM


Charlie and the Front Hole?

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (hPCXF)

154 Historical mystery fiction: Philip Kerr's Bernard Gunther series starting with "Berlin Noir" the first three novels in one book. Riveting and engaging. An anti-hero doing the best he can as a Berlin homicide detective unimpressed with and despising of the Nazis.

Posted by: Yawrate at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (U2SYP)

155 I will listen to anything ELO. Or Diamond Rio. Also, I have gin and should stop typing at any moment.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (lwiT4)

156 Try rereading "Future Shock" (or reading it for the first time, if I've chased you off my lawn).

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (txw6d)

157 If we're going to do a book club let's not make it anything too deep. Many of us work and are pretty well snookered mentally at the end of the day. I'd love something humorous. Maybe Wodehouse?

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (jm1YL)

158 Earnest Hemingway was an overly verbose blowhard.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (gC2IV)

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Yeah, he took 300 pages to let out a fart. It was kinda the writing style of the time, though.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (I16G8)

159 The Mouse and the Motorcycle was one of my favorite books as a kid.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (2DOZq)

160 149 Pink Floyd was destroyed for me by a kid, a former patient, who wrote a 30 page suicide note based on their music

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (BQPBQ)

161 ok, how about Hemingway or Waugh?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (BQPBQ)



Waugh. Hemingway is pure torture.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (SiINZ)

162 Count of Monte Cristo
Or anything by Sowell

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (IDhUW)

163 I've been reading a lot of Ray Bradbury's short stories to keep my mind off of politics. Unlike a lot of scifi/ fantasy writers, he had faith in humanity and his stories reflect that. It's refreshing. His stories are fantastic, charming, haunting and generally have a great twist at the end.

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (4YHTV)

164 Historical mystery fiction: Philip Kerr's Bernard Gunther series starting with "Berlin Noir" the first three novels in one book. Riveting and engaging. An anti-hero doing the best he can as a Berlin homicide detective unimpressed with and despising of the Nazis.

Strong +1

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (qul7b)

165 I'm not reading Hemingway.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (lwiT4)

166 I actually have a copy of Camp of the Saints but haven't read it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (4ErVI)

167 Sodomy Jones and the Temple of Poon by Lance Hardthrust is a classic manga read. Watch out for the popup tentacles though.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (qul7b)

The pop up tentacles tend to get stuck to the pages the more you read the book.

Also, don't buy a used copy.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (DzFIB)

168 I've mentioned this a few time before but I think Chesterton's "The Flying Inn" is a great classic and a short read. About normal fun loving people trying to escape progressive types who have sold out their country to foreign interests. The progressive types want to abandon western civilization to show how virtuous they are. And the protagonists want to drink rum and be happy.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (YR7aL)

169 Canticle for Leibowitz, and, The Lathe of Heaven are good reads.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (PFd3d)

170 Finger Paint by the Numbers, Vol. III

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (Tyii7)

171 143, check out his set lists on setlist.fm. Plays most of Graceland.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (PUmDY)

172 Anything with Fabio on the cover.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (6Zmow)

173 Treasure Island is a great read.The Call of the Wild.
Animal Farm.Nineteen Eighty-Four.

All very manageable lengths, classics for a reason...

Posted by: Lyford at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (CcBsx)

174

Famous Jewish Sports Legends is always reliable.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (qul7b)

175 Posted by: bananaDream at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (YR7aL)



Sounds good to me.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (lwiT4)

176 I LOVE the Count of Monte Cristo, but it's a long read.
I would suggest Dracula - I do it almost every year around early autumn in prep for Halloween.
Thanks for the thread on Ye Olde Books (and 80's music). =)
If anyone likes murder mysteries and the 1930's I love Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe books.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (Gim9y)

177 I actually have a copy of Camp of the Saints but haven't read it.

Skimmed it; skipped a lot to get to the punchline at the end.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (I9Sw7)

178 The Idiot, by F. Dostoevsky

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (wBMGD)

179 Book thread idea?


The new Obama/Biden Mystery one.


It would be worth it for the hilarious snark, alone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

180 159 The Mouse and the Motorcycle was one of my favorite books as a kid.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (2DOZq)


I remember that one.

Beverly Cleary is still alive at 102.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Cleary

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (sdi6R)

181 A Farewell to Arms *sob*

Posted by: MIchelle Fields at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (bUjCl)

182 G.K. Chesterton, Club of Queer Trades

Short, fun, unusual, and a delicious read like all of Chesterton.

Posted by: koulbassa at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (VHlrv)

183 13 Overrated 80s Band?

Van Halen.

What should we do next?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (m6d+0)

Are you out of your mind? I don't know how anyone could say that after watching some of their live performances in the '80s with both Roth and Hagar on vocals:

https://tinyurl.com/y79pnmyo

https://tinyurl.com/ya546jcj

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (rtfSu)

184 Famous Jewish Sports Legends is always reliable.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (qul7b)



You got your Sandy Koufax. And your Ryan Braun. And ....

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (lwiT4)

185 >>>102 Here is a question to ponder, does Joe Halderman's science fiction novel The Forever War hold up?

I read it for the first time five or six years ago and I remember liking it. The tech stuff seemed a bit dated but the Fast Forward stuff with the earth changing was interesting.

Though, Trigger Warning, a lot of the Future Shock he gets from going back to earth concerns homosexuality becoming first tolerated, then hip, and ultimately mandated.

Living in a PC age, I was surprised at how that became the dominant signifier of change. I don't remember a lot of other stuff changing.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (PA9oZ)

186 165 I'm not reading Hemingway.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (lwiT4)

I piss in the waters of your ancestors!

Posted by: Hemingway at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (QE8X6)

187
Beverly Cleary is still alive at 102.

Beezus and Ramona.

Ramona named her doll Chevrolet because it was the most beautiful name she had ever heard.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (6Zmow)

188 Worst/Most Overrated Band of the '80s? Poison or Culture Club are the worst, while U2 or Guns N' Roses are the most overrated.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (rtfSu)

189 Anything Follet. I've reread more than a couple of his books like Pillars of the Earth. The latest trilogy I'm just starting on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (pw+jk)

190 Hemmingway was a commie. He used to sit sipping cocktails watching Che's deathsquads shooting prisoners.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (Iccum)

191 Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (+dsLj)
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Thanks. Hoping that something gets done because Conservatives are being discriminated against.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (hECVl)

192 Free books?

Diary of a Nursing Sister on the Western Front.

The author's outlook begins as if WW1 were just another 19th century Boer wars thing. A gun shot wound or a minor sickness, then a spot of tea. Just another upper middle class English lark-about. Then the reality of the thing dawns on her.

Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (K3B2k)

193 We can read Proust and then summarize him.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (vDqXW)

194 I think Haldemann said that sexual mores were the most Future Shock thing he experienced as a vietnam vet. When he left it was 1956 (sexually), when he came back it was suddenly a sexual thunderdome. I think he just jumped on homosexuality as an extrapolation of that.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (PA9oZ)

195 Famous Jewish Sports Legends is always reliable.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (qul7b)

You got your Sandy Koufax. And your Ryan Braun. And ....

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (lwiT4)




Surely, you can't be serious

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (SiINZ)

196 I recently watched "Dune" for the first time since it first appeared on the screen. It was even more awful than I remember.

I wonder if it could be remade and be worthwhile?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (ptqGC)

197 I just bought the book, "I'm Dead. Now What?" It might prove useful to any number of people.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (lwiT4)


The title itself is False Advertising. Dead People don't read.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (fiGNd)

198 Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades

Big Trouble by Dave Barry.

Its a quick read.

I've read it at least 20 times.

its fun.

You will laugh so hard your shelves will fall down.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (ZqWjz)

199

Idiots Guide to the Care and Feeding of Useful Idiots by L. Enin is kind of a companion to Alinsky.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (qul7b)

200 Typhoon by Josef Conrad

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (MVjcR)

201 ''I would suggest Dracula - I do it almost every year around early autumn in prep for Halloween.''

Great choice for fall. We could follow up with a discussion of the various Dracula movies.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (jm1YL)

202 176 I LOVE the Count of Monte Cristo

Me too! LOVE the scene where Mercedes reappears. Shakespeare-level characters in a barn-burner.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (QE8X6)

203 Give Quicksilver by Neal Stephenson a try. By 100 pages you will either love it or hate it, and you can go from there.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (xEt5a)

204 Niles Hokkanen's Pocket Guide to Mandolin Chords. It doesn't just show you the diagrams, it really gets into the theory behind each chord. It's a steal at $4 - you can't get a pint for that, and it fits in your pocket or your mandolin gig bag. Really change your life, man.

https://tinyurl.com/yd9hk385

If you're looking for one of those books that aren't about mandolin chords, I don't know how much I can help with that. Maybe someone else has some ideas.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

205 Dead People don't read.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (fiGNd)
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buzzion does.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (JJZzu)

206 If you haven't read Armor , the first third of the book is the top page turner book I've ever read and I'm not a big sci-fi fan .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (2DOZq)

207 Surely, you can't be serious

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (SiINZ)



Do I look like a Shirley to you?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (lwiT4)

208 >>>Maybe Wodehouse?

good suggestion.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (PA9oZ)

209 Man, this Kopech kid has electric stuff.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (xEt5a)

210 Lord of the Flies?

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (JKNZq)

211 Count of Monte Cristo. Decent read if not already mentioned.

Posted by: Perchjerker at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (+J9U0)

212 will someone define "overrated" for me, s'il vous plait ? U2 was popular and sold a lot of albums. what would make it overrated ? maybe annoying because of Bonno's posturing ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)

213 Rapunzel

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (Tyii7)

214 I got the same vibe with the world government Mandela had to deal with in that story which was pushing ZPG even though in a war with the Taurans. Yeah on the third mission when Mandela finds out his unit doctor is a closet heterosexual really struck a current PC madness chord. And it was amusing how the world they left behind could not understand the joke of calling a planet The Middle Finger because of it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (YEriz)

215 How about 'If you were a Dinosaur, my love'?
/sarc

Old Sci-fi is fun - maybe "A Princess of Mars"?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (W+vEI)

216 Book thread idea?


The new Obama/Biden Mystery one.


It would be worth it for the hilarious snark, alone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (ptqGC)



That would be fun

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (SiINZ)

217 Books: I've been on a Daniel Silva binge lately. Mossad agent aka fine art restorer aka assasin. I recommend him highly.


He's good.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (ZqWjz)

218 I agree with Anna Puma about Little Fuzzy. (I re-read it recently.) It's a quick read, and good SciFi.

Art of the Deal is also a quick read (though not as quick). The actual Art is Chapter 2, and the rest of the book's chapter's are individual case studies. So -- biographical, but not really, if that makes sense. It's actually about the deals.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (gCRM2)

219 TDG by you guys!

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (MVjcR)

220 will someone define "overrated" for me, s'il vous plait ? U2 was popular and sold a lot of albums. what would make it overrated ? maybe annoying because of Bonno's posturing ?
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)
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Overrated means things a lot of other people liked, but you want to dump on.

Like Das Boot, for me.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (vDqXW)

221 I would second Animal Farm, and suggest also 1984 and Brave New World.

Jonathan Livingston Seagull and My Side Of The Mountain were wonderful and inspiring when I was young.

Also, H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."


For fun, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."



And then there's always the 1000-page "Atlas Shrugged." ;-)

Posted by: ShainS at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (WqPYg)

222 grammie, thank you for the reminder about Daniel Silva, I keep meaning to read his stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (dEQP3)

223 Tai'Pan by James Clavell

King Rat

Shogun

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (I9Sw7)

224 Anything by Chesterton
Not Hemingway
Id like to read The Idiot

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)

225 ''The new Obama/Biden Mystery one. ''

Ain't paying for that book..no way.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (jm1YL)

226 A recent book I enjoyed was The Razor's Edge by Somerset Maugham

Posted by: DaveD at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (9HR8n)

227 The Three Musketeers reads as if it's a modern book. I think it's the casual hedonism and cynicism, maybe.

But it's long.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (PA9oZ)

228 Two of my favorite books are Good Night Moon, and How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight? The latter is more open to a discussion-type format.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (lwiT4)

229 "The new Obama/Biden Mystery one. ''
--
The old mystery is perplexing enough.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (vDqXW)

230 A recent book I enjoyed was The Razor's Edge by Somerset Maugham
Posted by: DaveD at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (9HR8n)
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Oh my gosh, that movie was the most depressing thing ever.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (JJZzu)

231 HIGHLY recommend The Art of the Deal on audiobook, the rerelease from 2016 with Trump reading the intro. I'd never read it before and it's amazing how much the guy is just who he's always been. Only he's even savvier now.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (xEt5a)

232 How about a classic short every week to build up some momentum, and maybe pick a shortish novel to be discussed in a month or so.

One problem is if you pick just a novel, then no one has any incentive until the day before we plan to discuss it. This way you got weekly reminders. mo' gains.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (LWu6U)

233 I think Danny Elfman would agree to putting Oingo Boingo on the most overrated list

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (Iccum)

234 You will laugh so hard your shelves will fall down.
Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (ZqWjz)



Too soon!

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (NLLmE)

235 The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (vDqXW)

236 I haven't seen 1984 suggested yet, so Imma go with that.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (I16G8)

237 grammie, thank you for the reminder about Daniel Silva, I keep meaning to read his stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (dEQP3)



He's very good. It's not necessary to read his books in order, but it does provide backstory info if you do. Not crucial though.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (lwiT4)

238 The Constitution is short read. It's almost fiction in this day and age.

Posted by: Infidel at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (pcnVL)

239 How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?

With a raptorous hug?

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (Tyii7)

240 Let's be politically incorrect. "Tom Sawyer".

Posted by: Rosasharn at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (PzBTm)

241 I don't want to read anything the elites read. No Catcher in the Rye crap. Or Moby Dick.


Posted by: grammie winger


Bob Ueker wrote the catcher in the wry......

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (ZqWjz)

242 The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (vDqXW)



I'd rather kill myself.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (lwiT4)

243 >>>Id like to read The Idiot
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)


Love, love, love, but if you haven't done so, start with Crime and Punishment. Stick with it. Incredible psychological drama.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (QE8X6)

244 Overrated: Joan Jett.

I hate myself for loving Rock-n-Roll.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (vDqXW)

245 >>>How about a classic short every week to build up some momentum, and maybe pick a shortish novel to be discussed in a month or so.

yeah maybe but while this is easy for Kindle-owners, it's not so easy for non-Kindle-owners.

I've been reading a lot of short stories lately (or short-ish stories) and I'm all in favor of this, but... it's hard to get just one short story without having to buy a whole book. Unless you have a kindle.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (PA9oZ)

246 Treasure Island is, in my opinion, the best boy's adventure novel ever.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (fp1LP)

247 Count me in for Dracula too! It's a great read and much better than any of the movies.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (Ri0Ku)

248 All these comments in and no-one has suggested Space Raptor Butt Invasion yet?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (Iccum)

249 For people into benchracing dirt bikes.

Monkey Butt! by Rick Sieman

Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (K3B2k)

250 I'd never read it before and it's amazing how much the guy is just who he's always been. Only he's even savvier now.

*******************************

I like the end where he talks about how he wanted to give back to the country after all the country gave him. 30 years later....

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (+dsLj)

251 Ace may I suggest Replay by Ken Grimwood? It was a good book, easy to read and pretty fascinating. It's about a guy who keeps going back and re-living his life. I just reread it a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (dUJdY)

252 Heinlein's fun stuff, like Starship Troopers or his "Young Adult" novels.

Not the later, pervy stuff.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (xEt5a)

253 Mark Twain, Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (JKNZq)

254 ''The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (vDqXW)



I'd rather kill myself.''

I read that between high school and college because you know everyone was reading it. Blah!

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (jm1YL)

255 Also, H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."


Yes, that and The Invisible Man. Two surprisingly great reads.

I had only ever seen the movies and had no idea how good the books were.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (NLLmE)

256 "Huckleberry Finn".

Okay, I'm done.

Posted by: Rosasharn at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PzBTm)

257 Two of my favorite books are Good Night Moon, and How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?
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Good ones - I also like Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel and Ferdinand the Bull. Reading those to granddaughter #2 tonight. I need a break from being an adult.

Who am I kidding? I'm a Moron - no adulting here.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (9rIkM)

258 >>>247 Count me in for Dracula too! It's a great read and much better than any of the movies.

how long is it, though?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PA9oZ)

259 Cover of "Hope Never Dies," an Obama/Biden Mystery:

https://tinyurl.com/yboxwbo5


Sadly, right beneath it at Amazon, is a book with the same title, about people who have survived late stage cancer.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (ptqGC)

260 In the Heart of the Sea.

You can read an unbelievable true story and say you sort of read Moby Dick.

And you know you want to say you read Moby Dick.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (/tuJf)

261 yeah dracula is listed at 431 pages.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (PA9oZ)

262 192 Free books?

Diary of a Nursing Sister on the Western Front.

The author's outlook begins as if WW1 were just another 19th century Boer wars thing. A gun shot wound or a minor sickness, then a spot of tea. Just another upper middle class English lark-about. Then the reality of the thing dawns on her.
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This sounds interesting

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (IDhUW)

263 Begriffsschrift, a Formula Language, Modeled Upon That of Arithmetic, for Pure Thought

by Gottlob Frege.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (vDqXW)

264 194 I think Haldemann said that sexual mores were the most Future Shock thing he experienced as a vietnam vet. When he left it was 1956 (sexually), when he came back it was suddenly a sexual thunderdome. I think he just jumped on homosexuality as an extrapolation of that.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (PA9oZ)

He deals with that bit in The Forever War. After one of one of the main character's time dilated trips out he comes back and finds that homosexuality has taken over and is the norm rather than an aberration. The main character becomes one of the few heterosexuals on the ship he takes on his next campaign. That might be how Haldeman himself felt in '68 or '69.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (1FhAQ)

265 Two of my favorite books are Good Night Moon, and How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?
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Good ones - I also like Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel and Ferdinand the Bull. Reading those to granddaughter #2 tonight. I need a break from being an adult.

Who am I kidding? I'm a Moron - no adulting here.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (9rIkM)
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I was always partial to Harry the Dirty Dog.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (JJZzu)

266 258 >>>247 Count me in for Dracula too! It's a great read and much better than any of the movies.

how long is it, though?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PA9oZ)

Pretty long I think.

I read a Penguin Classics version that had added stuff though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (4ErVI)

267 Hi Ace.

Last of the Mohicans?
Another one of the Leatherstocking Tales?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (wbRN9)

268 yeah maybe but while this is easy for Kindle-owners, it's not so easy for non-Kindle-owners.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (PA9oZ)


You can read Kindle content in your browser, you don't need a physical reader. It's not terribly comfortable for longer stuff, but it works for short stories.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (y87Qq)

269 And I like the Animal Farm idea too.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (Ri0Ku)

270 I'll second Dracula. The unabridged version.

Gogol and Chekov short stories are good, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (mxvSl)

271 Vampyr?

Could always get lost in the history behind what Bram Stoker wrote by picking up a copy of Christopher Frayling's Vampyres: Lord Byron to Count Dracula.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycm9r9bh

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (YEriz)

272 For Jekyll and Hyde, the problem nowadays is that you already know the ending. It's a horror story, in the unease between the good doctor and this evil person rather than in guts and gore. But since you go in knowing the gimmick of the story, the *WHAM* line at the end isn't even a flick on the cheek. And every other part of the story is diluted by that fact.

It's kind of like a murder mystery. If you know very well that Mr. Black murdered the Duchess, you pick out the red herrings and ignore the What-Ifs because you already know the one path to the answer of Whodunnit. And if you know this as a given, without even having touched the story, you don't even get the benefit of a second reading to see what misconceptions you had before versus what you now know.

Posted by: Another Anon at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (MTejJ)

273 Id like to read The Idiot
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)
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Dreams from my Father? Or Audacity of Hope?

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (vDqXW)

274 212 will someone define "overrated" for me, s'il vous plait ? U2 was popular and sold a lot of albums. what would make it overrated ? maybe annoying because of Bonno's posturing ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)

I was never a big fan of U2's sound, though I do like a few of their songs (e.g., "New Year's Day"). I think they were just overhyped in the '80s, especially among various music critics. I prefer my music fun, not a dissertation on various social and historical issues. Did anyone take themselves more seriously back then than Bono?

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (rtfSu)

275 I have gone through the Hemingway novels and it didn't hit the spot for me.

Read Tolstoy's war and peace but took me two years and read thirty books during it. Ehh.

I like Heinlein mucho mucho and he was prescient. Many of the sci-fi old school like Nevin, dick, and others but not classics but good reads.

Just reread Animal Farm and Brave New world about 4 years ago. Looking to reread 1984 soon.

Took awhile to chew through Basic Economics By Sowell and recommend it to any leftist but they laugh at that suggestion.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (pw+jk)

276 White Lotus by John Hersey

I have a book about dulcimer chords, does that count?

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (JKNZq)

277 how long is it, though?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PA9oZ)



That's a rather personal question. Oh the book. My paperback version is just under 400 pages

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (SiINZ)

278 An underrated Ayn Rand novel is her first one, "We the Living". It's about a young woman living in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. Since she escaped from the Soviet Union in the 1920s, she said many years later that it was as close as she would ever come to writing an autobiography.

Once she emigrated to the West, she had trouble getting it published. One publisher told her that she really didn't understand Communism.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

279 >>Books: I've been on a Daniel Silva binge lately. Mossad agent aka fine art restorer aka assasin. I recommend him highly.

Yeah, he's good.


How about a Dick Francis mystery?
British, always related to hose stuff (steeplechase, etc.) and it expands your vocabulary.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (W+vEI)

280 How about a Travis McGee book? I'm starting "A Purple Place for Dying" tonight.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodwicz

All of the travis Mcgee books are good, as are John d. Mcdonald's.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (ZqWjz)

281 Tribe takin' it to the Sox.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (Tyii7)

282 Did anyone take themselves more seriously back then than Bono?
==
Sting ? maybe not.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (bUjCl)

283 ''How about a Dick Francis mystery?
British, always related to hose stuff (steeplechase, etc.) and it expands your vocabulary.''

''Whip Hand"

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (jm1YL)

284 223 Tai'Pan by James Clavell

King Rat

Shogun

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (I9Sw7)

Good, immersive books, but all looooong.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (1FhAQ)

285 Twins can't stop Kopech - but the dang rain can...

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (xEt5a)

286 Imran Awan got 3 months of supervised released. Judge liked his anti Trump rant so much, she waved the fine he had been given.

We're hosed.....

Oh and Sessions was there. He said nothing....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (Enq6K)

287 Clavell is way too long

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (bUjCl)

288 Oh and Sessions was there. He said nothing....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (Enq6K)
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What do you expect a plant to say?

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (vDqXW)

289 http://storyoftheweek.loa.org/
I found this site a few days ago. They have a lot of stories in their archive. I was looking for Elmore Leonard's "3:10 To Yuma" and found it here through Google.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (xPl2J)

290
touted by instapundit
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/305373/

led me to
"House to House" by SSG David Bellavia
looks to be brutal

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (I9Sw7)

291 I wouldn't mind re-reading Bonfire of the Vanities.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (ptqGC)

292 No firm consensus on worst/over rated 80s band I see.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (jm1YL)

293 >>'The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Even better: rent the movie starring...Gwyneth Paltrow. You are rooting for suicide.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (W+vEI)

294 James Clavell

Great stuff.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (Tyii7)

295 how long is it, though?
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM
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I'll go check......

Dracula's over 400 pages; but Frankenstein is only about 225. That was pretty good too, but not as scary as Dracula.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (Ri0Ku)

296 282 Did anyone take themselves more seriously back then than Bono?
==
Sting ? maybe not.
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (bUjCl)

To his credit, Bono overinflated the whole band and stayed loyal to his mates. Sting has always been all about Sting.

But both have completely ceased to rock.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (xEt5a)

297 I love Hemingway, sorry not sorry, especially The Old Man and the Sea. (And I am an 'ette too.)

RE: Count of Monte Cristo - I was SO into the book I actually looked forward to the treadmill! I propped my Nook up with an easel, got on the treadmill and read it every day until I was done. There were so many ups and downs and my God, it was an experience. Then I started The Three Musketeers, all excited, and it felt frivolous and silly, and that ended my Dumas streak. LOL
Most overrated band for me is The Beatles, by far. Good lord. Way before my time, but I still knew people obsessed with them, and they only had a few good songs, plus Lennon was an absolute asshole.

As far as 80's bands go, I'd say Van Halen is a good one, and if you read my childhood diary, you'd see the most UNDERRATED band of the 80's - because they weren't on American Top 40 long enough, or on Solid Gold - was The Police. Also I loved old INXS then like Shabooh Shoobah and The Swing, but not their 'newer' stuff.

To overrated - Bon Jovi and Guns and Roses.


Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (Gim9y)

298 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b

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Look behind you, see thal line in the dirt? You done crossed it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (0dbnJ)

299 >>'The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.



Even better: rent the movie starring...Gwyneth Paltrow. You are rooting for suicide.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (W+vEI)


Her best work was Head in a Box.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (ptqGC)

300 some harlequin romance novel. bodice buster.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (MTjB1)

301 Short ...hmm how about ...either Agatha CHristie or George Simenon. Mysteries. I vote for Simenon over Agatha.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (bUjCl)

302 >>led me to
"House to House" by SSG David Bellavia
looks to be brutal



It's a good book!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (W+vEI)

303 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (2bWtt)

304 The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (vDqXW)

305 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.



Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b



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Look behind you, see thal line in the dirt? You done crossed it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (0dbnJ)



I love you Vlad.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (lwiT4)

306 Hey there, AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

307 ''Her best work was Head in a Box.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (ptqGC)''

LOLOLOL.....

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (jm1YL)

308 I've read some of the books mentioned here. Moby Dick was awful. Just nonstop stream of consciousness nonsense, with a few brilliant sentences. The whole story of Moby Dick that we all know happens in the last five pages, or so.

Camp of the Saints was very prescient and didn't take long, but had a depressing ending.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (fp1LP)

309 And since we're approaching autumn, two of my seasonal favorites are Shades of Gray (good West Point ghost story for a Smart Military Blog (TM)), and The Haunted Bookshop, by Christopher Morley.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (mxvSl)

310 I love a good, long read. Haven't done a short story in years.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (Tyii7)

311 Really really short story?

Lamb to the Slaughter

Bet CSI still couldn't figure that one out even today.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (YEriz)

312 The Shepherd of the Hills
By Harold Bell Wright


Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (bML9A)

313 The Beatles are overrated?? FFS.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (NpK5V)

314 The Swamp is trying to stop Trump rallies, stop Kavanaugh ad win the midterms, all in one whack

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (7rpiB)

315 If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (dEQP3)

316


I'm reading a book by Carlo Morelli, The Order of Time.

It's a short book, but caused reflection, no math, but the concepts don't need it...

It's not a light fun read, it gets to the heart of existence, what is going on in that time that can't be measured that you experience your surroundings...

He has thought deep about time. I get a sense of sadness and futility in the book, perhaps that's my reading. I've been thinking about existence a lot. My parents are getting old, I'm getting older, we all perish, and what happens then...

And time, where does it go when we are gone?

Anyway, well written book, I recommend it, but not if you're looking for an uplifting motivational book.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (pXbVS)

317 I love a good, long read. Haven't done a short story in years.


Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (Tyii7)



I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (lwiT4)

318 An underrated Ayn Rand novel is her first one, "We the Living". It's about a young woman living in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. Since she escaped from the Soviet Union in the 1920s, she said many years later that it was as close as she would ever come to writing an autobiography.
Once she emigrated to the West, she had trouble getting it published. One publisher told her that she really didn't understand Communism.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

Excellent book. Shows how the communists kept creeping their nonsense into every aspect of her life until she had to try and get out.

Her description of the commie buttkissers and hacks would fit right in with those in DC today.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (EoRCO)

319 Speaking of Lambs, Silence of the Lambs was good.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (bUjCl)

320 If you want short and lucid read no book by Neal Stephenson. Snow Crash or The Diamond Age or Zodiac may, repeat, may be exceptions.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (hyuyC)

321 >>Her best work was Head in a Box.

Gwyneth did it better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (/tuJf)

322 rickl- I loved "We the Living", but it's so heartbreaking, it's the most intimate tale of the communist take over. Her family worked so hard all their lives and the commies take it all away. Her sister can only use her art for propaganda purposes. Everyone's privacy and possessions are taken away bit by bit. They all live in fear and hunger. Thank God Ayn Rand escaped even though her heroine doesn't.

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (4YHTV)

323
If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (dEQP3)



Dorothy Sayers is a jewel.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (lwiT4)

324 Dracula starts slow, but gets very exciting half way through. I didn't like Frankenstein.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (fp1LP)

325 I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (lwiT4)


You can read them again the same day.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (y87Qq)

326 I keep a copy of Great American Short Stories for those times when I am burnt out on "literature".

Posted by: Mary Harmon at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (gq8vW)

327 >>>Ferdinand the Bull

i loved that when i was little.
all he wanted to do was sit under the tree and smell the flowers.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (Tm+wy)

328 Id like to read The Idiot
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)
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Dreams from my Father? Or Audacity of Hope?
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM
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Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (Ri0Ku)

329
Always wanted to read "fear and loathing in Las Vegas" but never did. Don't know why I wanted to or why I never did.
You can always go with a short conservative classic like Fahrenheit 451.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (r+sAi)

330 Everything I Needed to Know About Life I Learned From Reading Earnest Hemingway:

1) Chicks Dig Bull Fighters
2) Sharks - fuckin' sharks
3) The exact moment you become really happy, your wife might blow your brains out.
4) Gangrene is bad.
5) You can use your horse as one big sandbag in a firefight
6) 'A Three Day Blow' isn't what you think it is.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (sE69+)

331 One more thing about Dracula -
It's diary entries, so the formatting and breaks account for some of the length. It never feels like 400 pages to me.
Also... support Barnes and Noble if you have a choice! Their Nook has an Amazon reading app (the reverse isn't true), it's a nice tablet as well, and not run by Bezos the bozo, who has said he wants to take BN out.

(As an aside, I adapted the general 'idea' of Dracula and made it into an erotica book, although not solely diary style entries. Twas fun.)

Would also do Lovecraft, who I adore. "The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward" is creepy AF, also pretty short.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Gim9y)

332 Serious suggestion: Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

But probably a lot of people have read that. I've seen it listed as the most perfect novel in the English language.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (vDqXW)

333 The Art of War.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Xpw10)

334 I never read the abridged version of anything. Maybe back in high school when it's forced reading and no one cares. Forced reading sucks it just takes all the joy out of anything.

Having said that boy some of those unabridged novels are daunting. War and Peace. Les Miserables. The Count of Monte Cristo. But man oh man they're so worth it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (4ErVI)

335 If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (dEQP3)
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Ooh, I love Dorothy Sayers' mystery books. They are so well-written and complex that they take me longer to digest than other mystery writers though.

She has some good short stories too. Have you read the one about the multiple Peter Wimseys?

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (JJZzu)

336 from the last thread becuase this is all gay bullshit we're dealing with. Trump should pretty much say this is the end of Mueller. He's been harassing everyone who has ever associated with trump with the sole intent of intimidating them into being composing witnesses.

Trump's near 50% and he's got unprecedented black support.

There's no blue wave and 1% of people care about Russia.

Time to fuck this shit and go after Mueller for professional dishonesty (which is a federal crime, you know) and the clintons because fuck them.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (GoLZO)

337 What about Robert Howard's "Conan the Conqueror" also called "Hour of the Dragon"? It is a novel length Conan story. Should be a lot of fun. There is a 99 cent Kindle version.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (V+03K)

338 Most Overrated Band of all Time?


That's actually a hard question. Even bands I don't like who were enormously popular can't really be called overrated, since they were enormously popular.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

339 harry by the sea is by far, the best!

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Tm+wy)

340 I hate all the negativity. I love the band Reckless Kelly.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (NpK5V)

341 The author of Armor , John Steakley only wrote one other novel, Vampires which John Carpenter made into a semi crappy movie. Rather read that than Dracula.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (2DOZq)

342 I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?

Agreed. When I hit the recliner with a page turner, I'm lost to the rest of the world, hours on end.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (Tyii7)

343 A great read, but a long one, is Following the Equator by Mark Twain.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

344 Three Hearts and Three Lions by Poul Anderson is always fun. Puddinhead Wilson by Mark Twain was fun and short as I recall.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (T+Eka)

345 Heart of Darkness is a great novel in part because it is not written by a master of the English language. It is written by a Slav who came to England and wrote about what colonialism did to the English.

Think of Conrad as an early Naipaul or Rushdie and you would not be far off.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (N1ZXu)

346 Anything Cornell Woolrich wrote is good.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (4ErVI)

347 I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?


Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (lwiT4)


Try some good ones.

Posted by: Zombie Edgar Allen Poe at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (PFd3d)

348 The Count of Monte Cristo

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (AfYqV)

349 Is garrett here? No? Okay, don't tell him that I said the most over-rated band of all time is The Kinks.


j/k garrett. don't hunt me down.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (lwiT4)

350 I have no attention span for reading books because of the www.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (XMhQP)

351 Most overrated book , only IMHO, Confederacy of Dunces.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)

352 The Constitution is short read. It's almost fiction in this day and age.

Posted by: Infidel at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (pcnVL)


Hell ... the ability to tax Barter Whiskey ain't in there - but shit is what it is.

That document got shat on from about Day One.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (fiGNd)

353 A loonnnng time ago I read William F. Buckley's Blackford Oakes stories.

Didn't think much of them at the time.

But I was within five or six years of believing that Piers Anthony stories were good.

~ twitch ~

So I may reread the former - but never the latter.
_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (sE69+)

354 If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM


All Dorothy Sayers. The Wimsey short stories are most cromulent. The Nine Tailors, The Unpleasntness at the Bellona Club....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (mxvSl)

355 I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas back before I turned 29. It was hilarious.

The movie sucked.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (ptqGC)

356 JS, I think the Lockn D&C shows on Sat and Sun will be free on yt. Sunday will have Branford.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (PUmDY)

357 Tristram Shandy works
Posted by: CN
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I'd have to brush up on my Greek.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (xSo9G)

358 Short stories are often better than novels because the constraints force the author to be more focused.

Hemingway's shorts are better than his novels.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (fuK7c)

359 Tarnsman of Gor.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (SgjGX)

360 harry by the sea is by far, the best!
Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Tm+wy)
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Yes, I thought the seaweed was a good look for him.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (JJZzu)

361 I was always a Prog Rock guy.
I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.
I was weird that way, I guess.
Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

362 She has some good short stories too. Have you read the one about the multiple Peter Wimseys?
Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (JJZzu)



Yup. I really love her works.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (dEQP3)

363 349: grammie, grammie, grammie. no way.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (KP5rU)

364 Short stories are great for walking-while-reading. I got through a lot of the There Will Be War collections that way.

Short stories are also good for one-and-done sessions like if you are curled up in bed with something to read. That was how I did Clark Ashton Smith.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (N1ZXu)

365 Any Michael Connelly - Bosch series.

Posted by: JudyNM at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (S64y2)

366 How about a fun mystery like The Big Sleep or Lady in the Lake by Raymond Chandler

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (T+Eka)

367 Duran Duran might be an overrated 80s band.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (XMhQP)

368 Gor was BDSM sex cults before they were cool.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (N1ZXu)

369 I like Stephen King's short stories. They made him a mint.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (GoLZO)

370 The Ransom of Red Chief
By O.Henry

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (bML9A)

371 Musically speaking, the Beatles music master was mostly Sir George Martin, notwithstanding the fab four's talents. Like the Beatles, Yoko not so much. Also musically speaking, really good music was made by LedZep, Chicago, AWB, Earth Wind and Fire, and just about all the Memphis and Mussel Shoals sidemen. Such can be said of Queen, Supertramp, ELO, and Alan Parsons Project. But as far as raw talent is concerned, those who rotated in and out of Steely Dan, the Dooby Brothers, Eagles and Allman Brothers were the best. Hopefully I have not pissed off too many of you. As a side note I and Mrs. E will be doing a duet featuring Glocks tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (zLDYs)

372 She has some good short stories too. Have you read the one about the multiple Peter Wimseys?



Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM


The Bibulous Business of the Matter of Taste? One of my personal favorites.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (mxvSl)

373 GW, glad you're kidding.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (PUmDY)

374 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

Posted by: Patrick C Carroll at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (kFQIb)

375 >>>"fear and loathing in Las Vegas"

Peaches sent me that, and i read it in one day.
pretty trippy.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (Tm+wy)

376 349: grammie, grammie, grammie. no way.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (KP5rU)



I know. I was just trying to irritate garrett. Irritating people is one of my best qualities.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (lwiT4)

377 A great read, but a long one, is Following the Equator by Mark Twain.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Hmm. How about 'A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (CDGwz)

378 I think I have the entire Readers Digest condensed books library.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (2DOZq)

379 I have no attention span for reading books because of the www.

--
Depends - mood maybe. If I get sucked into the book, I am transported away, to another reality, and read it start to finish. (Take me away Calgon!)

Sometimes I hit a point in the book where I have to call timeout to decompress. Returning to reality is jarring - perceptions changed, outlook, goals, all different.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (I9Sw7)

380 Sayers and Silva are both good.

Naio Marsh is a good mystery writer.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (IDhUW)

381 351 Most overrated book , only IMHO, Confederacy of Dunces.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)


Holy crap, yes. Got about ten pages in and adios. Read like a shitty 70's sitcom.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (NLLmE)

382 BumperStickerist

Fist-bump on the Blackford Oakes stories. I got a favorite name for a character from one of them; Immer Smith.

Much better than Anthony's Xanth stories or whatever he was punning about.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (hyuyC)

383 Some of "The Canterbury Tales" in the original Middle English. Snort and guffaw worthy they are. Lewd and crude.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (jm1YL)

384 Since we're talking about good reads ...

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (fiGNd)

385 I was always a Prog Rock guy.
I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.
I was weird that way, I guess.
Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)
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Yeah, prog has been my favorite as well. Weird when I read your post, I had In a Glass House running as an earworm.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (vDqXW)

386 374 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
Posted by: Patrick C Carroll at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (kFQIb)



Oooh good ideer.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (NLLmE)

387 Zane Grey


Somebody was reading it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (1g7ch)

388 Serious suggestion: Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.
But probably a lot of people have read that. I've seen it listed as the most perfect novel in the English language.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (vDqXW)

Hated that book. Conrad is boring, dark and guilt ridden. The one about the sea captain whatever ever put me to sleep so many times I can't even remember the name of the novel.

I hope "Heart of Darkness II: Farm House Boogaloo" about the current farm confiscations in South Africa is better.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (EoRCO)

389 I went through a period where I was reading anything about the sea.

Far Tortuga by Peter Matthiessen and The Story of a Shipwrecked Sailor by Gabriel Garcia Marquez were good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (ptqGC)

390 The Innocents Abroad
By Mark Twain

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (bML9A)

391 Nothing about the 80s can be overrated. That decade was too much fun.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (XMhQP)

392 I hang my head in shame - CONAN! Tower of the Elephant is a favourite, it's novella length IIRC.

Also, don't recall who hates short stories but Bradbury's "The Sun Dome" is amazing, and so is, "The Man" I think, which made me cry. Wow. (About a space explorer who ends up becoming friendly with the inhabitants on another world, and the man who he is going to listen to is... but I won't reveal. Powerful story.)
And "The Veldt"!!!

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (Gim9y)

393 I was always a Prog Rock guy.
I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.
I was weird that way, I guess.
Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

I'm a big prog fan but wasn't able to get into Gentle Giant. What do you recommend from them that you consider their best work?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (4ErVI)

394

A couple of days ago, I ran across the strangest band I've seen in a while, Bela's Bartok. IIRC, they bill themselves as circus punk. The songs I've heard sound like power polka (and if there wasn't such a thing as that before, there is now.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypq2j7clREk

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (HaL55)

395 Neal Stephenson actually wrote one short story that comes to mind, and it's actually pretty good: Jipi and the Paranoid Chip. It doesn't feel like anything's missing just because he had to cut a few hundred thousand pages out of his usual format.

https://vanemden.com/books/neals/jipi.html

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (y87Qq)

396 The Bibulous Business of the Matter of Taste? One of my personal favorites.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (mxvSl)
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Man, you're good. I never would have remembered that.

I've read everything that our library has by her, but it's been a while.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (JJZzu)

397 >>I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?

Good stories that you can finish in one sitting?
I can get obsessive if it's a good book, and stay up all night to read through to the end, so a short story doesn't have that risk.

Some good short stories: "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" and "I Am Legend."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (W+vEI)

398 Speaking of Memphis, Big Star were awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (PUmDY)

399 I was always partial to Harry the Dirty Dog.
Posted by: bluebell

The Man in the Yellow Hat wants to have a word with you.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (S6Pax)

400 i think the grateful dead were overrated. they always reminded me of hippie excrement. or, a port o shitter. just damn, get to the point you meandering phucksticks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (KP5rU)

401 Kidnapped! is good.
Want something short?
Catcher in the Rye, Animal Farm.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (3HNOQ)

402 Zane Grey


Somebody was reading it.




Me. It's awful.

It's got to be so awful that I'm reading it for the lulz.

I do not recommend. (Riders of the Purple Sage).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (fuK7c)

403 Lancelot, I have to say Confederacy Of Dunces captured N'Awlins of that period to a 't'. Yessir.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (zLDYs)

404 Big HAIR


And BIG cans of mousse.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (1g7ch)

405 381 351 Most overrated book , only IMHO, Confederacy of Dunces.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)

Holy crap, yes. Got about ten pages in and adios. Read like a shitty 70's sitcom.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (NLLmE)

I got a little farther because I was convinced it was going to get better since all I heard was how good it was. I only got half way .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (2DOZq)

406 Nothing about the 80s can be overrated. That decade was too much fun.

I'll say. It nearly did me in.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (Tyii7)

407 I'm a few chapters into "The Tourist," it's science fiction time travel, set in the U.K., the plot involving some smarties from a few centuries hence trying to track down a woman who slipped away from a period tour, into the muck and stench we call 2018 suburban London.

It opens with the protagonist in solitary confinement out there in 23-something.

Oh, and some kind of near-total-annihilation event is known to have occurred in the second half of our 21st.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (BvNr4)

408 I'm into newer music these days. I like Clean Bandit.

I really liked the cello player before all her plastic surgery.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (hyuyC)

409 Gentle Giant were enormously under rated.
Royal Academy of Arts alum.
All were multi instrumentalists.
Could play acoustic or amped up.
Fun stuff.
I'm sure they must have gone broke eventually.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (w7KSn)

410 49

Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)

The Beatles' importance to music and pop culture cannot be overstated. If you look at productivity and success, The Rolling Stones are definitely way more overrated than The Beatles, though I like both bands. The only advantage the Stones have is longevity but they really haven't released anything of value in 35+ years.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (rtfSu)

411 Naio Marsh is a good mystery writer.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (IDhUW)
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Yep. Also Margery Allingham.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (JJZzu)

412 Some of "The Canterbury Tales" in the original Middle English. Snort and guffaw worthy they are. Lewd and crude.

Chaucer? un idiota plagiatore.

Posted by: giovanni boccaccio at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (N1ZXu)

413 Mozart was way, WAY overrated !

Posted by: Salieri at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (bUjCl)

414 The #1 Ladies Detective League by Andrew McCall Smith.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (Xpw10)

415 I'm a big prog fan but wasn't able to get into Gentle Giant. What do you recommend from them that you consider their best work?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (4ErVI)
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In a Glass House is considered their best. Some people consider Octopus their best--but not me.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (vDqXW)

416 Not over-rated: The BeeGees.


I defy you to defy me.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (lwiT4)

417 403 Lancelot, I have to say Confederacy Of Dunces captured N'Awlins of that period to a 't'. Yessir.
Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (zLDYs)

Don't disagree about the imagery.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

418 The Dead sucks donkey balls. Horrible music.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (89T5c)

419 Given the civil war talk today, I will re read A Tale of Two Cities, and learn to knit.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (BvNr4)

420 A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn is fairly short, but definitely not fun. Fairly timely if the Progs take over. Life in the gulag system.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (T+Eka)

421
The #1 Ladies Detective League by Andrew McCall Smith.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (Xpw10)


Thanks for reminding me! Our travel agent just suggested the series. Because Africa.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (ptqGC)

422 You what is a really good mystery and has changed many a mind about Richard III? ''The Daughter of Time" by Josephine Tey. I think it's still listed as one of the 100 top mystery novels.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (jm1YL)

423 The Beatles' importance to music and pop culture cannot be overstated.



Grammie rates this: Wholly True.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (lwiT4)

424 367 Duran Duran might be an overrated 80s band.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (XMhQP)

Might be, but luckily they aren't.

What killed their reputation was the overplaying of "The Reflex", which was just a meh song compared to their works to that point. But here's a band who, as early as their debut album, extolled the awesome themes of

Zombies
Porn Stars
Libertarianism

And managed to make it look cool and sleep with supermodels and jet around the world and make a ton of money, all with a nod to T. Rex and the great glam rockers. Really remarkable.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (xEt5a)

425 A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn is fairly short, but definitely not fun.


Oh, I would like to read that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (fuK7c)

426 321 >>Her best work was Head in a Box.

Gwyneth did it better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (/tuJf)

Spoiler alert!!! I just wish most of Paltrow's movies ended with that happening to her character. After all, has any character she's played really ever added anything of value to a movie?

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (rtfSu)

427 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (89T5c)

428 Random "Books I remember"

"One Very Hot Day" by David Halberstam - set in Vietnam, it's story about a patrol from a first person point of view.

"Red Ball in the Sky" - Charles Blair
Man flew a P51 from Norway to Alaska via the North Pole. This was 'back in the day'.

"Von Ryan's Express" - NOT THE MOVIE.

I'd be interested in a book-weenie's take on this because - to me - it was damn near perfect as a WWII prison escape story. (The movie blew chunks)

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (sE69+)

429 The Ugly Russian
By Victor Lasky

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (bML9A)

430 Raw Talent by Jerry Butler.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (PFd3d)

431 I'm sure they must have gone broke eventually.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (w7KSn)
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Derek Shulman became a music producer, and produced some major New Wave and Punk bands.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (vDqXW)

432
Most Overrated Band of all Time?

Alexander's Ragtime Band

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (IqV8l)

433
The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (89T5c)


I'll just sit here and wait for grammie's response.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (ptqGC)

434 The Pearl. The Old Man and the Sea. The Great Gatsby.


Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (3HNOQ)

435 In a Glass House is considered their best. Some people consider Octopus their best--but not me.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (vDqXW)

Thanks. I'll check it out.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (4ErVI)

436 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.


HERETIC!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (lwiT4)

437 >>Holy crap, yes. Got about ten pages in and adios. Read like a shitty 70's sitcom.



YES! I think I made it through about 20 pages.
Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (W+vEI)

438 Count of Monte Cristo. Or maybe Dune.

Posted by: cornbred at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (RtmFd)

439 Jeebus. 400 comments in, big (partially "fake") news day, Trumpenfuhrer holding a dark scary rally, and ..... thread is STILL on music and books? Some kind of AOSHQ record.


Get buzzion to make a notation in the archives.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (QDnY+)

440
A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn
=
talk about overrated ....

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (bUjCl)

441 I love Jules Verne but it has to be a good translation. There are a lot a bad ones that have been using the same shitty translation for a century.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (V+03K)

442 Zane Grey


Somebody was reading it.
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Me. It's awful.

It's got to be so awful that I'm reading it for the lulz.

I do not recommend. (Riders of the Purple Sage).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM

I'm going to guess it is a generational thing, like music.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (I9Sw7)

443 I'll just sit here and wait for grammie's response.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (ptqGC)



LOL You know me too well

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (lwiT4)

444 The BeeGees were a manifestation of the thirst for content, whatever it was, gotta fill the airwaves.
I never figured out how they sang so high...
Maybe I don't even want to know.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (w7KSn)

445 Not over-rated: The BeeGees.

I defy you to defy me.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (lwiT4)

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No, you are correct. They did define music style for about a 5 year period. That's pretty significant.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (I16G8)

446 Good more recent bands: Chvrches, the Cloud Nothings, Matt and Kim, War on Drugs.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (T+Eka)

447 Jane. I was going to recommend it to you. You will so enjoy them. I think there are 5 or 6. Also you really need to see Duma. If you can't find it I will send you my copy.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (Xpw10)

448 An underrated prog rock band from the 70s was Renaissance. They were a British band, and I've read that they only became real popular in the States in the NYC and Philly areas, but not so much in the rest of the country. That was kind of odd.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

449 whenever i hear the bee gees, i have to stop myself from sticking icepicks in my ears. that, or slitting my wrists. whatever is faster. they must be a group that only females get.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (KP5rU)

450 That stuff is horrid, grammie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (89T5c)

451 379. Actually did just almost finish a book - a bio of Paula Wolfert. Besides being a food pioneer she led a pretty interesting life. It moved me to learn more about Tangier, a Beats destination.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (XMhQP)

452 Donkey balls. Another The Expanse fan in here? Haven't read the books yet.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (Gim9y)

453 U2


That is all.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (rmyUw)

454 Music speaking, The Chieftains. Real Irish music.

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (jiGGU)

455 The Picture of Dorian Gray is fairly short iirc.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (Iccum)

456 Albert Camus's "The Stranger"
Strange short read.
Did you know that guillotines were NOT placed on a high platform?

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (3HNOQ)

457 That stuff is horrid, grammie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (89T5c)



oh no you dint

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (lwiT4)

458 ''A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn''

Had to read that in high school. Not going to do that one again.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (jm1YL)

459 Man, you're good. I never would have remembered that.



I've read everything that our library has by her, but it's been a while.



Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM


*buffs fingernails*


Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (mxvSl)

460 Jane. I was going to recommend it to you. You will
so enjoy them. I think there are 5 or 6. Also you really need to see
Duma. If you can't find it I will send you my copy.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (Xpw10)


I have the books on a list of Things to Do before we leave. I don't know how much time I'll have to read on the trip (other than the loooong flight over and back), so I may buy them all.

Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (ptqGC)

461 Nike Rodgers produced some very fun 80s music.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (PUmDY)

462 Heart of Darkness is a great novel in part because it is not
written by a master of the English language. It is written by a Slav
who came to England and wrote about what colonialism did to the English.



Think of Conrad as an early Naipaul or Rushdie and you would not be far off.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (N1ZXu)


Surely you meant the horrors of a BELGIAN crown colony of the Congo.

British colonies had their own issues, but they tended to fall short of genocide and a colony wide death camp.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (2K6fY)

463 Music speaking, The Chieftains. Real Irish music.


Chieftans is bullshit, that guy with the beard and the melodic voice. It's fucking fifties.

Pogues. Full stop.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (fuK7c)

464 I was always a Prog Rock guy.

I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.

I was weird that way, I guess.

Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.



Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)



I'm a big prog fan but wasn't able to get into Gentle Giant. What do you recommend from them that you consider their best work?

Ditto. Even saw GG live with Yes in '75. I've always liked Power Glory, although In A Glass House usually gets the nods for originality/progginess. Free Hand is also approachable. I wouldn't put them in the big 8, but a lot would.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (RHEDC)

465 I've lost every hope and dream that I ever had. So, I'm listening to a lot of Mahler.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (l9m7l)

466 >>And managed to make it look cool and sleep with supermodels and jet around the world and make a ton of money, all with a nod to T. Rex and the great glam rockers. Really remarkable.



And they all are doing just fine, successful in other pursuits and intermittently getting together to make another album. None of them OD'd, went fabulously broke, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (W+vEI)

467 60s BeeGees or the disco version?

Posted by: everyone gonna drink my wine at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (DXorg)

468 That stuff is horrid, grammie.



Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (89T5c)

oh no you dint


Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (lwiT4)


And it's on!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (ptqGC)

469 Technically Toto was a seventies band, but their biggest "hits" were in the eighties. I can't stand Rosanna and when listening to a classic rock station, I'll turn the channel and won't change it back! Africa has to be one of the most overrated songs of all time, along with that POS Come On Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Whatevers!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (v1udk)

470 I'm telling you The Daughter of Time'' is a good one. Not very long and would make for interesting discussions.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (jm1YL)

471 I've read that they only became real popular in the States in the NYC and Philly areas, but not so much in the rest of the country. That was kind of odd.
Posted by: rickl


Annie Haslam has a gorgeous voice.

She sang a version of "Turn of the Century" (A Yes song) that is on YouTube, and it is about the most sadly beautiful things I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQdgvowFH5g

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (S6Pax)

472 Thanks. I'll check it out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (4ErVI)
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I like everything from there and ending with the often-underrated The Interview (76). But I like their complete catalog as well.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (vDqXW)

473 People suggested "1984" and I love/hate it. I can sort of distance myself from all the shit that is happening to Winston until the rat scene. I can't read it, read it once, one of the few things in my reading career I have blocked from memory.

Re-read "Brave New World" a few years ago, still depressing.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (Gim9y)

474 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Posted by: lin-duh at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

475 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.

Even their early stuff? I can see if you are not into the disco but their 60's stuff was good.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (dUJdY)

476 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.

On of my favorite lines, altought in a different book of his, concerning a man hit with a bucket of water: "He immediately became, without any previous training or experience, the wettest man in Worchester".

Well, I liked it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (0dbnJ)

477 Your loss, Bandersnatch.

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (jiGGU)

478 449 whenever i hear the bee gees, i have to stop myself from sticking icepicks in my ears. that, or slitting my wrists. whatever is faster. they must be a group that only females get.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (KP5rU)

The Bee Gees really embodied the disco era. Whenever I hear their tunes from the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack, there is definitely a feeling of nostalgia. I was young when that hit but I remember how big of a cultural phenomenon the soundtrack was and the Bee Gees were back then. Of course, that led to younger brother Andy Gibb releasing that piece of crap song "Shadow Dancing" in the late '70s so maybe the Bee Gees deserve to be attacked for contributing to that.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (rtfSu)

479 I'm telling you The Daughter of Time'' is a good one. Not very long and would make for interesting discussions.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (jm1YL)
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I just put it on hold at my library.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (JJZzu)

480 Now I want to play random keyboard mashing or Sigur Ros song titles.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (dEQP3)

481 I was always partial to Harry the Dirty Dog.
Posted by: bluebell

The Man in the Yellow Hat wants to have a word with you.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.
==========

Pfft. 'The Poky Little Puppy'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (xSo9G)

482 60s BeeGees or the disco version?


Posted by: everyone gonna drink my wine at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (DXorg)



I like both. I love the pre-disco songs where they featured Maurice and Robin's voices more prominently - like in "I've Just Got to Get A Message to You". But I also like their Barry Gibbs-Disco stuff. What's not to love! It's all fun. And dance-y too.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (lwiT4)

483 Dexy's Midnight Runners is "Come on Eileen". I love 80's music trivia, btw, have over 1000 songs on mp3 alone. =)
So... "Dracula", head Ewok? ;-)

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (Gim9y)

484 Africa has to be one of the most overrated songs of all time

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (v1udk)


*glares*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (ptqGC)

485 "........... but obviously you can talk about whatever you want."


You realize, of course, that Huff Post and CNN.com have millions more hits every day, but can you talk about whatever you want on either of those sites?



Just one more reason that you are HERE.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (UsCnO)

486 Thurber short stories are fun and well told for the most part. I'd second Wodehouse, some are priceless. Maybe I just like the way they can paint such a visual.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (RHEDC)

487 One thing's a given. No matter what it is, if you confess to liking it at least one of us is going to say it sucks donkey balls. Should be added to the style guide.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

488 . I've always liked Power Glory, although In A Glass House usually gets the nods for originality/progginess. Free Hand is also approachable. I wouldn't put them in the big 8, but a lot would.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (RHEDC)
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What's your "big 8".

Definitely Yes. Definitely Crimson. Definitely Floyd. Genesis? Van der Graaf Generator?

Yeah, I put GG in that group.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (vDqXW)

489 436 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.


HERETIC!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (lwiT4)

I've got your back grammie.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

490 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.

On of my favorite lines, altought in a different book of his, concerning a man hit with a bucket of water: "He immediately became, without any previous training or experience, the wettest man in Worchester".

Well, I liked it.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (0dbnJ)
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I agree with all of the above.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (JJZzu)

491 I stumbled across this the other night. The Bee Gees performing "Blowing in the Wind" in 1963:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbVNNXjOzk

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (sdi6R)

492 Bane County: Forgotten Moon
By J.R.Rice

Available on Kindle

Not a werewolf story, very different. Really a horror story that takes off in the first chapter.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (bML9A)

493 One of the books on my TBR pile is Roger Casement, Traitor or Patriot. He was sent as an agent by an English society to the Belgian Congo to check on the rumored atrocities there. They were.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2018 09:20 PM (2K6fY)

494 #465
Thread winner!

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:20 PM (w7KSn)

495 I couldn't stand most 1980s music and I was a teenager for most of the decade. Kajagoogoo anyone? Give me a fucking break I couldn't listen to that crap.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (4ErVI)

496 Is Rambo considered a classic movie yet?

The author of First Blood, David Morrell, wrote a trilogy that is surprisingly good.

The Brotherhood of the Rose
The Fraternity of the Stone
The League of Night and Fog

Not a book club suggestion. Just a suggestion.

And Twisted Sister. WTF was that shit?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (wbRN9)

497 Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (rtfSu)

The song Shadow Dancing sucked but I liked the rest of the album. I don't know why that was selected to be the hit. single .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

498 >>...that POS Come On Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Whatevers!


Hell, yes!

And "Walking on Sunshine."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (W+vEI)

499 How can you mend a broken heart is a great song.


Bee Gees not over-rated. Fake news.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (NLLmE)

500 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.
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Eulalie

Posted by: Jeeves at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (CDGwz)

501 What's not to love! It's all fun. And dance-y too.

Best years of my life.. the late 70's. I had a blast. Hubby and I went out every Saturday night and drank and danced the night away.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (dUJdY)

502 ''I was always a Prog Rock guy. ''

I'm kind of in to the second iteration of King Crimson. As I get older my tastes are changing. Used to be a classical/opera babe almost exclusively. Love medieval music. Now I'm loving music I should have loved when I was in my twenties. Weird.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (jm1YL)

503 Overrated band...u2

Short, classic book....Old Man and the Sea, Hemmingway

Posted by: Milleveleigh at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (ChQD/)

504 The Cat in the Belfry, Doreen Tovey.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Xpw10)

505 And Twisted Sister. WTF was that shit?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (wbRN9)
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Stuff earlier than their big break is not bad. Anything after they got popular. Gag.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (vDqXW)

506 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.
==================================
HERETIC!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (lwiT4)


How Deep Is Your Love is timeless.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (fiGNd)

507 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (4ErVI)

Kind of goofy, but harmless. Personally I have a huge soft spot for "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora and "Rock me Amadeus (German ver)" by Falco.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Gim9y)

508 Best years of my life.. the late 70's. I had a blast. Hubby and I went out every Saturday night and drank and danced the night away.
Posted by: Jewells45

Were white polyester leisure suits involved?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Iccum)

509 Well, before I get stabby over music, I guess I'll head off and get some reading done.


Ya'll behave. Grammie, try not to hurt anyone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (ptqGC)

510 never was into disco music. never went into a disco. the good thing about disco was, all the posers went there. the gritty rock clubs weren't full of phucktards then. good times.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (KP5rU)

511 So, I am at the bowling alley and it hits me.
Hell would be having to listen to all that crap music from 60s/70s/80s for the rest of eternity.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (3HNOQ)

512 that POS Come On Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Whatevers!

Hell, yes!

And "Walking on Sunshine."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (W+vEI)

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Blargh!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (I16G8)

513 Early Bee Gees wasn't bad. I started a joke and Massachusetts I liked.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (v1udk)

514
I stumbled across this the other night. The Bee Gees performing "Blowing in the Wind" in 1963:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbVNNXjOzk

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (sdi6R)



Oh my gosh - look how little they are!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (lwiT4)

515 ''P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode. ''

Anything Wodehouse would be fun, fun, fun.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (jm1YL)

516 476 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.

On of my favorite lines, altought in a different book of his, concerning a man hit with a bucket of water: "He immediately became, without any previous training or experience, the wettest man in Worchester".

Well, I liked it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (0dbnJ)

You might enjoy Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K. Jerome. There are scenes in that book where I had tears rolling down my cheeks I was laughing so hard. He wrote a sequel that isn't as good but still has its moments (like when they go to Germany and he's describing how much Germans love rules).

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (4ErVI)

517 "From hell's heart, I stab at thee!"

Posted by: Capt. Ahab, aka Rachel Maddow at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (9X60i)

518 Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (3HNOQ)

Set to the characters of Sartre's "No Exit"? =)

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (Gim9y)

519 Ya'll behave. Grammie, try not to hurt anyone.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (ptqGC)



Well shoot, Jane.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (lwiT4)

520 449 whenever i hear the bee gees, i have to stop myself from sticking
icepicks in my ears. that, or slitting my wrists. whatever is faster.
they must be a group that only females get.


Hard to believe they started out as a bad Moody Blues knock-off, semi prog outfit. They even had a few semi-hits back in the late 60's early 70's. Anybody remember "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart?" The poor bastards were at it for a decade before they discovered the falsetto and disco. The rest is as they say...

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (RHEDC)

521 I remember my Ma hounding my Pop to get a leisure suit. Gotta hand it to the old man, he would.not.budge.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (Tyii7)

522 Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey is fantastic. Haven't read it for years.

Favorite band from early 70s is Blood, Sweat and Tears. Favorite from the late 70s is Heart. Favorite solo performer is Barry Manilow 's Paradise Cafe, Swing Street, Swinging With The Big Bands, a nd the Broadway album. Not just his performances but he really shines with those arrangements.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (V+03K)

523 I could handle Ace does Neil Gaiman.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (Xpw10)

524 Were white polyester leisure suits involved?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Iccum)

LOL! Thankfully no! I would not have let him out of the house! I did have some pretty nice dresses though. Pretty swirly skirts perfect for all those dance moves.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (dUJdY)

525 Hard to believe they started out as a bad Moody Blues knock-off, semi prog outfit. They even had a few semi-hits back in the late 60's early 70's. Anybody remember "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart?" The poor bastards were at it for a decade before they discovered the falsetto and disco. The rest is as they say...

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (RHEDC)
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I remember "Nights on Broadway" which I don't hate.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (vDqXW)

526 >>Well shoot, Jane.



Phew! The comma saved Jane!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (W+vEI)

527 Billy Idol was fun 80s music.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (PUmDY)

528 Best Band that wasn't trying to copy anybody? Boston.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

529 Well shoot, Jane.

Phew! The comma saved Jane!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (W+vEI)
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Wish it would have saved grandma.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (vDqXW)

530


https://biblioklept.org/2010/12/14/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (IqV8l)

531 >>Bee Gees not over-rated. Fake news.

Al Green better. Fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgAFcvIw8J4

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (/tuJf)

532 Hell would be having to listen to all that crap music from 60s/70s/80s for the rest of eternity.

Posted by: Willowed JAS

"Hell is Andy Gibb singing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons. And you have to wear orange-plaid bellbottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. 'Hi fellas. This is gonna suck!'"
Denis Leary

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (Iccum)

533 Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

===

No love for "You're a fag and your sh*t's all retarded"?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (EZebt)

534 You guys all have great taste in music, such great opinions. Except that one commenter up the thread a ways. They can go right to hell.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (fp1LP)

535 Anything Wodehouse would be fun, fun, fun.
Posted by: Tuna
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I could reread a Wodehouse. Something funny would be a nice change. Problem with the Wooster books is that it's really necessary to read them in order, kinda.

Posted by: Jeeves at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (CDGwz)

536 Know what part of Walking On Sunshine got me? Them damn red Converses.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (zLDYs)

537 Less Than Zero is what I'm throwing in that hat for the book club.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (sFofr)

538 Two non-classics, but very fun reads:

Angela's Ashes

&

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (JJ9bx)

539 Catch-22

That is all.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (rmyUw)

540 >>Hell would be having to listen to all that crap music from 60s/70s/80s for the rest of eternity.



That scene in "P.C.U" where the administrators and snobby donors are locked in a room with "Afternoon Delight" cranked up to '11' on repeat...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (W+vEI)

541 No love for "You're a fag and your sh*t's all retarded"?


I think that one's already been enshrined.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (Tyii7)

542 98 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)



I do believe we're going to have a problem here.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (lwiT4)

grammie, I have your back on this one. While I, like you, were very young, we were there. We saw our older brothers and sisters go nuts for many years with the Beatles albums time after time. We saw the confused responses on the faces of our parents.

It was crazy. Unlike any other musician, except maybe Elvis. A comparison would be the excitement at a Trump rally vs. a Maxine Waters rally.


And Beatles songs have been covered by more artists than any other musicians. Ever.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (UsCnO)

543 Best Band that wasn't trying to copy anybody? Boston.
Posted by: Lancelot Link
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Uh, oh...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (CDGwz)

544 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (dUJdY)

545 532
"Hell is Andy Gibb singing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons. And you have to wear orange-plaid bellbottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. 'Hi fellas. This is gonna suck!'"
Denis Leary
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (Iccum)


OK, the Bay City Rollers could be a candidate for most overrated band. I'm old enough to remember when they were supposed to be the second coming of the Beatles.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

546 536 Know what part of Walking On Sunshine got me? Them damn red Converses.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (zLDYs)

That group won the Eurovision years later. Sometime in the 1990s I think. Can't remember how I learned that because other than Walking on Sunshine I never heard of them again.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (4ErVI)

547 And come on ... really ... nobody else ever shagged to Love So Right ?

This Bee Gee hate shit is started to look like the classic Virtue Signal to me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd)

548 >>> An underrated Ayn Rand novel is her first one, "We the Living". It's about a young woman living in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. Since she escaped from the Soviet Union in the 1920s, she said many years later that it was as close as she would ever come to writing an autobiography.

Once she emigrated to the West, she had trouble getting it published. One publisher told her that she really didn't understand Communism.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM
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^^^^
THIS

I read that book when I was 15. I went to Yugoslavia 4 months later. These two things planted the seeds that made this atheist commie teen a conservative. Much like the movie The Lives of Others, it brings a totalitarian state right down to the most personal level. You can feel what it's like to live in that world.

Posted by: Been Awhile at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (4fmLd)

549 Angela's Ashes --- Fun???

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (lwiT4)

550 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for

the character of Roderick Spode.

------------



Eulalie

Posted by: Jeeves at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM


Heil, Spode!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (mxvSl)

551 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (Tyii7)

552 Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Yeah, I know (or knew) a couple of people in that one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (CDGwz)

553 Just finishing up A River Runs Through It. Short and a good read. Lonesome Dove if you want something longer, an excellent book though

Posted by: Steve at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (ET4ds)

554 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Yep.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (Tyii7)
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Yep. Definitely overrated.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (vDqXW)

555 I was having a discussion the other day about songs most well known from their opening bars. In other words, instantaneously recognizable.
Mind you this is easy to confuse with "well known songs" but it's an interesting discussion. The first one off the top of my head was:
My Girl

Posted by: Mega at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (uEbPt)

556 "And Beatles songs have been covered by more artists than any other musicians. Ever. "

My house is wonderful. It's been fixed by more repairmen than any house I've ever lived in.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (fp1LP)

557 Hemingway. There is a book collection of his reporting stories. By Line Earnest Hemingway.
Some funny stuff, some way too serious stuff. It's not a bad collection and while he gets more preach-y as he goes on, some of the scenes are very real.
A Few Acres of Snow, by Robert Leckie
How the French lost Canada. I have it in hardback so 387 pages.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (wgCUV)

558 ''grammie, I have your back on this one. While I, like you, were very young, we were there. We saw our older brothers and sisters go nuts for many years with the Beatles albums time after time. We saw the confused responses on the faces of our parents.

It was crazy. Unlike any other musician, except maybe Elvis. A comparison would be the excitement at a Trump rally vs. a Maxine Waters rally.


And Beatles songs have been covered by more artists than any other musicians. Ever. ''

You had to be there to understand The Beatles.. I'm a boomer and I was there. My gawd, they kind of changed everything. What we heard from them was just so, so different. It's hard to explain.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (jm1YL)

559 Not over-rated: The BeeGees

The fact that men who sing like women are even rated means they're over rated.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (ZYcR0)

560 Supertramp
Little River Band
Robert Palmer
Kansas
Styxx
Boston

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (dUJdY)

561 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (dUJdY)



Oh yeah. They have their own channel on Sirius XM. We went and saw them last summer at the Wisconsin State Fair. Only Mike Love was an original there.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (lwiT4)

562 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Posted by: lin-duh at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

Highly readable.
Short.
A true classic in every sense.

We have a winner!

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (xEt5a)

563 It took a second for me to realize why Archer's man servant was named Wodehouse.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (2DOZq)

564 522 Favorite band from early 70s is Blood, Sweat and Tears.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (V+03K)

My wife and I are actually going to see Blood, Sweat and Tears in concert in a couple of weeks. We go to see a lot of musical artists that are way past their heyday and only have 1-2 original members. It's going to be pretty sad for us in the next 10 years when pretty much all the artists from the 1960s, '70s, and '80s have retired or died since that's pretty much the only music we listen to nowadays.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (rtfSu)

565 >>I read that book when I was 15. I went to Yugoslavia 4 months later. These two things planted the seeds that made this atheist commie teen a conservative. Much like the movie The Lives of Others, it brings a totalitarian state right down to the most personal level. You can feel what it's like to live in that world.


"The Book of Laughter and Forgetting" by Milan Kundera (or any of his novels except "Immortality").

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (W+vEI)

566 The. Beach Boys was my very first concert with my first real girlfriend. Had the time of my life!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (v1udk)

567 Yep. Definitely overrated.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (vDqXW)

You just shut your pie hole!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (dUJdY)

568 559 Not over-rated: The BeeGees

The fact that men who sing like women are even rated means they're over rated.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (ZYcR0)

Why so crotchety?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (2DOZq)

569 You had to be there to understand The Beatles.. I'm a
boomer and I was there. My gawd, they kind of changed everything.
What we heard from them was just so, so different. It's hard to
explain.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (jm1YL)



Exactly. There was a Before. And then there was After. Hard to explain indeed.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (lwiT4)

570 Great Beach Boys cover: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yapr293v

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (Tyii7)

571 Grammie- I got How Deep is Your Love on now.





Sorry.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (89T5c)

572 And come on ... really ... nobody else ever shagged to Love So Right ?

This Bee Gee hate shit is started to look like the classic Virtue Signal to me.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd)

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Hells yeah I did! There exists a picture of me in full Saturday night attire. Black Rayon paisley shirt, white courdoroys, black lifter shoes, gold chain with a medal, feathered hair and aviator glasses.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (I16G8)

573 So, Steve, how did you like Brokeback Mountan? Sorry, I just had to.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (zLDYs)

574 Really ? How Can You Mend A Broken Heart ?

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

575 Angela's Ashes --- Fun???

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (

.....

While the subject matter can be a bit depressing, the writing isn't because McCourt has an uncanny ability to recall and write from his age perspective.

It's a horrible tale but told from a kids mind, which is much more innocent.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (JJ9bx)

576 There doesn't seem to be a consensus emerging for the book choice.



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (xSo9G)

577 Earth, Wind, and Fire.

That is all.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (0dbnJ)

578 In high school I forced .myself through the whole Dune series. I was a looser geek.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (0OmEj)

579 That's too bad grammie. Good Lord I would have loved to see them live.

Oh and one more... The Eagles.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (dUJdY)

580 re: We The Living:
It isn't the slog of a read that Atlas Shrugged can be, where you're pulled out of the story for political soliloquys. It's good.

Posted by: Been Awhile at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (4fmLd)

581 Russell's teapot

Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

Posted by: SMOD at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (e8kgV)

582 I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".

A walking rock-n-roll encyclopedia once told me that.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)

583 Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)
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I think I'm going to enshrine this for posterity. Maybe I'll needlepoint a pillow with it or something.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (JJZzu)

584 >>Yeah, I know (or knew) a couple of people in that one.

Now that sounds like a good story.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (/tuJf)

585 There doesn't seem to be a consensus emerging for the book choice.
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My book buying budget is blown all to hell and gone.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (I9Sw7)

586 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.




John Turner, who played him in Jeeves and Wooster series always cracked me up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (SiINZ)

587 This is short, and will blow you away. "Anthem", by Ayn Rand

Posted by: Born Free at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (tWOmK)

588
In high school I forced .myself through the whole Dune series. I was a looser geek.
Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable


Come on and tighten up!

Posted by: Archie Bell at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (IqV8l)

589
426 321 >>Her best work was Head in a Box.

Gwyneth did it better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (/tuJf)

Spoiler alert!!! I just wish most of Paltrow's movies ended with that happening to her character. After all, has any character she's played really ever added anything of value to a movie?
Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (rtfSu)


The plague movie where she was the cheating wife of Matt Damon! and dies horribly of a super strain of influenza always cheers me up if I happen to come across it (I don't look for it, that's for certain).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (pNxlR)

590 Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)



It is an odd ...... juxtaposition.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (lwiT4)

591 Russell's teapot

Posted by: SMOD at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (e8kgV)
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Also, Russell's bad analogy.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (vDqXW)

592 ''Oh and one more... The Eagles.''

Only before Randy Meisner quit. They never let him sing enough.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (jm1YL)

593 Mark Levin making sense about this crap on Hannity.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (hECVl)

594 There's always We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
https://bit.ly/2gBk3EF

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (JKNZq)

595 I am reading Osprey Books Campaign Series #273, Point Pleasant. It is a short sweet and directly factual account of Lord Dunmore's War, the forgotten pre-Revolution campaign that opened the Ohio River valley and its tributaries to American settlement. Many of the men who were officers in it played prominent roles in the later War of Independence and the settling of Kentucky and Tennessee.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+kMI)

596 For something completely different: "Hot Zone" by Richard Preston

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+vEI)

597 Been Awhile, The Lives of Others should be a must see movie.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (Xpw10)

598 Really ? How Can You Mend A Broken Heart ?

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

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You aren't alone.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (I16G8)

599 Uh, oh. Red Sox gettin' on the board.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (Tyii7)

600 582 I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".

A walking rock-n-roll encyclopedia once told me that.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)

Not a beatle fan though I don't hate them but I don't believe that claim. Their catalogue is too big to think they had to rip off somebody else. And unless there are Brian Wilson songs I haven't heard , I haven't heard any similarities.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (2DOZq)

601 Book Club. Tough problem. Not a long book. Not obtuse, reasonably simple to read. And worth some discussion.

I can't come up with the perfect thing, so I will instead nominate two of my favorites.

Drawing of the Dark. Tim Powers, one of my favorite authors. The "Dark" in the title is dark beer. The book is set in the 1400s or 1500s, built around the Muslim siege of Vienna. There is a supernatural element. The protagonist, Brian Duffy, an Irish mercenary, could easily be a moron.

Before Midnight Rex Stout, one of my other favorite authors. It's a Nero Wolfe book. Great interplay between Wolfe and Archie, a crazy 40's version of an SJW chick, and the center of the whole thing is a maneuver by Wolfe that is hinted at by the title, and only explained at the end.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (Vb4BV)

602 For something completely different: "Hot Zone" by Richard Preston
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+vEI)


That is the single most terrifying book I've ever read.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (dEQP3)

603 574

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

This comment would be the best epitaph to inscribe on a tombstone. I have to come up with something like that for mine. Might as well make people chuckle when they visit the cemetery.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (rtfSu)

604 Two non-classics, but very fun reads:

Angela's Ashes



Fun? Are you on drugs?

Now, I loved Angela's Ashes. Folks are from the Old Sod and such. But fun?

That was so bleak. I remember that my kids were young. I was trying to be the good dad and make them eat healthy food, but when I was reading Angela's Ashes and they wanted chocolate covered cookie cereal with icing and sugar I said yes, anything you want lads.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (fuK7c)

605 Lolita. Can't go wrong with Nabokov.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (/qEW2)

606 "Murders In the Rue Morgue."

From whence modern detective fiction came.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (WEBkv)

607 590 Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)



It is an odd ...... juxtaposition.
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The BeeGees had many hits before they rode the disco wave to riches, and Barry was still making money a decade later from writing and duets. It's alright to be a guy who likes them.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (W+kMI)

608 So, any decision yet in the Manafort trial?

In other news, I got the A/C working in my '08 Suburban for the first time since I've owned it, so I am good to go to AZ next month.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (LI7AQ)

609 Now that sounds like a good story.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Dark. Spooky dark.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (xSo9G)

610 "Murders In the Rue Morgue."

From whence modern detective fiction came.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (WEBkv)
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It's a novella.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (vDqXW)

611 Anyone watching Mark Levin on Hannity. He's explaining why what Cohen plead guilty to was NOT a crime.

Wonder if Cohen is watching...hahaha.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (Enq6K)

612 Been Awhile, The Lives of Others should be a must see movie.

Rented that a few years back. I believe I heard Rush mention it so we thought why not? Good grief.. depressing as hell, but yeah a must see. Especially now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (dUJdY)

613 Book idea: Try Tarzan. But you have to read the first two books to complete the story. (Of course ERB then wrote 20+ sequels...)

Posted by: Makatta at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (a4Ra5)

614 Africa has to be one of the most overrated songs of all time...
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (v1udk)

Obviously you are a communist and we have a helicopter waiting on the pad just for you.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (J70i0)

615 Never cared for the Bee Gees. If I wanted to hear falsetto, the Four Seasons were better.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (V+03K)

616 In other news, I got the A/C working in my '08 Suburban for the first time since I've owned it, so I am good to go to AZ next month.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Prediction: Early Autumn, abnormally low temperatures.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (xSo9G)

617 >>That is the single most terrifying book I've ever read.


Oh yeah. I read after working in Reston, VA - killed me wondering where the monkey business took place.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (W+vEI)

618 Too Much Heaven ... a classic.

Fuck it. Too Hell with you all. Here's my man card. Take the damn thing. I don't want the piece of shit anyway.

They had good songs - the disco shit was better than most - and they had really good ballads.

I'm going to kick the dogs now.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (fiGNd)

619 And unless there are Brian Wilson songs I haven't heard , I haven't heard any similarities.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (2DOZq)



Not a direct rip-off, but Paul listened to "God Only Knows", loved it, and wanted to write a love song just as wistful as that. "Here, There and Everywhere" was the result.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (lwiT4)

620 I would vote for one of the Poe novellas.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (J70i0)

621
A Canticle for Fawn Leibowitz (That Minx!)


Humbly offered ... (har)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (pNxlR)

622 AtC, if 'Hot Zone' terrified you, Ima gitin' it asap.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (zLDYs)

623 Oh yeah. I read after working in Reston, VA - killed me wondering where the monkey business took place.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (W+vEI)
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*cough*

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (JJZzu)

624 Been Awhile, The Lives of Others should be a must see movie.

Rented that a few years back. I believe I heard Rush mention it so we thought why not? Good grief.. depressing as hell, but yeah a must see. Especially now.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (dUJdY)



As I keep telling the Left, The Lives of Others is not an instructional film.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (dEQP3)

625 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Xpw10)

626 Prediction: Early Autumn, abnormally low temperatures.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (xSo9G)

Just send the checks to Peon Industries, LLC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (LI7AQ)

627
"The Book of Laughter and Forgetting" by Milan Kundera (or any of his novels except "Immortality").



Oh yes. Laughable Loves was my first, then Lightness of Being.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (fuK7c)

628 620 I would vote for one of the Poe novellas.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (J70i0)


We did that, no?

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Vb4BV)

629 Honestly? A fun quick yet informative read are the Rush Revere 'Time travels through history' children's book series! MAGA

Posted by: TheFoundersParty at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (QAVtQ)

630 Anyone watching Mark Levin on Hannity. He's explaining why what Cohen plead guilty to was NOT a crime.

Wonder if Cohen is watching...hahaha.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (Enq6K)
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I would him to come in and clean up the DOJ.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (hECVl)

631 About the books, how does a mystery sound? Everyone should refrain from reading the final chapter before the initial discussion, so we can compare notes on who we think he culprit is and what clues are significant. Then, a couple of days later, have a final discussion after reading the author's solution.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (1Fa/H)

632 Anyone watch "Muscle Shoals"? The guys down there definitely had an influence on pop music.

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (cSfOv)

633 587 This is short, and will blow you away. "Anthem", by Ayn Rand
Posted by: Born Free at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (tWOmK)


Seconded. That's a good one. A novella, maybe 150 pages or so.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (sdi6R)

634 625 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Xpw10)


Oh. Encyclopedia Brown? Harry Potter?

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (Vb4BV)

635 568>> Because there are so many other bands that made far better music and didn't try to sound like women doing it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (ZYcR0)

636 AtC, if 'Hot Zone' terrified you, Ima gitin' it asap.
Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (zLDYs)



It's a non-fiction work. That's what makes it so terrifying.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (dEQP3)

637 >>*cough*

Posted by: bluebell




Have you read Hot Zone???

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (W+vEI)

638 I just plowed through a The Rabbi Small series of books in the last couple of weeks.

A Jewish friend of mine died and told his wife to give them to me even though I hadn't seen him in years, so she gave them to me at his funeral.

They were a blast! Simple mystery books, but with a real injection of Jewish religious philosophy and culture interspersed throughout. They weren't taxing on the brain, but were strangely addictive.

Sometimes I like books that I don't have to make myself read, but actually like reading.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (JJ9bx)

639 Levin on fire.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (p+zZ8)

640 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Xpw10)

Perhaps Ace is younger than 29.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (DzFIB)

641 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (PFd3d)

642 >>Dark. Spooky dark.

Now I definitely want to hear it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (/tuJf)

643 Also reading "A Country of Vast Designs" by Robert W. Merry. It is about President Polk and his term, which saw the USA truly reach from sea to shining sea, pissed off Establishment politicians, and made New England liberals' heads explode. The more things change.... Fun fact: I learned Polk's political nickname was "Young Hickory, as he was a protege of Andrew Jackson. At his inauguration supporters in the parade carried freshly cut hickory branches.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (W+kMI)

644 596 For something completely different: "Hot Zone" by Richard Preston
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+vEI)

Classic.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (sFofr)

645 I'd rather read one of ERB's Martian books, like the Gods of Mars. But the real Tarzan books are interesting and nothing like the movies.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (JKNZq)

646 Obviously you are a communist and we have a helicopter waiting on the pad just for you.

Name one good thing about that song. The lyrics?The vocals? You can't even dance to that crap. Other than it's not Come on Eileen, I can't think of anything redeemable about that song.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (v1udk)

647 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
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I had read everything Zane Grey wrote before puberty.
What's your point?

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (I9Sw7)

648 ''Oh yes. Laughable Loves was my first, then Lightness of Being''

A young Daniel Day Lewis in "The Lightness of Being"'. Yikes, he was good looking.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (jm1YL)

649

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.


Their pre-disco era was teh shiznit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (HaL55)

650 630 Anyone watching Mark Levin on Hannity. He's explaining why what Cohen plead guilty to was NOT a crime.

Wonder if Cohen is watching...hahaha.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (Enq6K)
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I would him to come in and clean up the DOJ.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (hECVl)

Oh if only!

He was bashing Lanny Davis, "You had your client plead guilty...and there was NO crime. Idiot."

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (Enq6K)

651 If we go the mystery route, we might want to forego Agatha Christie, as I think I have already read most of her novels. Maybe a Mickey Spillane?

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (1Fa/H)

652 582
I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have
heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's
recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".



A walking rock-n-roll encyclopedia once told me that.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)


I think it was Donovan who got the Beatles into the flower child stuff.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (PFd3d)

653 We did that, no?
Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Vb4BV)

I don't remember. Of course one hits 29 and the memory starts to go.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (J70i0)

654 Lizzy

Issac Newton Square, Reston. They tore down the old building and put in a day care. Later it became a gym.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (hyuyC)

655 Somebody conned me into reading The Lovely Bones when that was a thing sweeping the nation.

I had to admit the concept seemed interesting. In reality it quickly devolved into some New Agey piece of crap that got literally worse as each page passed. I pushed ahead thinking hey maybe there's a great payoff here!

Nope. I should've beaten to death the person who sold me on it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (4ErVI)

656 davidt - I think we did talk about ELO. Maybe it was on the previous thread. I know I commented that there is not one ELO song that I do not love.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (lwiT4)

657 Have you read Hot Zone???
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (W+vEI)
---------

No way. I live here.

True story: the building now houses a daycare. Yep.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (JJZzu)

658 I reread "Treasure Island" recently and thought it was still pretty darn good. The Disney movie is pretty good, too.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (Rg9Ab)

659 641 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (PFd3d)


Ugly. Saw them live, from a very good seat, during their "A spaceship opens, and there we are" tour, and...boring. Jeff Lynne may be some sort of musical genius, but he has no onstage charisma whatsoever.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (Vb4BV)

660
Prediction: Early Autumn, abnormally low temperatures.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc.


It's supposed to be 90 again a week from today.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (IqV8l)

661 The Picture of Dorian Gray is fairly short...

Yes. Very, very much sucks donkey balls good in my opinion.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (2lndx)

662 I saw Unrelated Threats open for Violent Femmes back in '89.

It was tense.

Posted by: fluffy; child of a lesser fascism at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (cHbmY)

663 AOP - A few days back you made a comment about 'the other plastic car'. Which got me thinking, and I haven't looked it up, but I mentioned the Saab Sonett. Afterwards I pondered what others there have been? I seem to recall that the Opel GT was plastic? Maybe not.

Anyhow, Fiero.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (CDGwz)

664 Name one good thing about that song. The lyrics?The vocals? You can't even dance to that crap. Other than it's not Come on Eileen, I can't think of anything redeemable about that song.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (v1udk)

The lyrics, the vocals, the music itself. All great.

Would you prefer the left or right door seat? :-)

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (J70i0)

665

Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.


I like them a lot. And Jeff Lynne's done a lot for music.

Great band.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (HaL55)

666 641 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.
====
"Time" is the best concept album, better than anything Pink Floyd did. Gauntlet flung down. First song of theirs I heard and really liked was "Don't Bring Me Down" which got played 1,000 times when it was out. But I pretty much like any of ELO's stuff, including their most trippy-dippy stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (W+kMI)

667 I was raised on ERB novels. Tarzan was a Victorian savage who exemplified correct behavior. The first two books have quite the story arc. It's all about Jane.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (hyuyC)

668 Bitter Clinger @ 628, read The Yiddish Policeman's Union" or suchlike, can't remember rightly but it's a damn good read. Set in Alaska, it was. Double whiskey, chopped me off at the knees. That and up since 0400 this morning. sorry.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (zLDYs)

669 ''Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.''

ELO first hit in the 70's. All over the radio.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (jm1YL)

670 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (PFd3d)
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They've been mentioned. Do a page search.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (vDqXW)

671
I had read everything Zane Grey wrote before puberty.
What's your point?
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (I9Sw7)

--------------

How much of Grey's pre-pubescent writing actually got published?

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (1Fa/H)

672 I know I commented that there is not one ELO song that I do not love.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (lwiT4)


How did a group like that, with their genre, kick out something like Long Black Road ?

That shit, new, would make radio today. I love that song.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (fiGNd)

673 Poe stories! The Cask of Amontillado.

It's literally about a dude planning and executing sweet revenge on his friend who made him a cuckold and took away the woman who he was to have children with.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (sFofr)

674 As usual the dopes forgot to turn my travel card on. I'm gonna ream em good tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (CW4Xz)

675 Young adult fiction pre-1960s is really good. Johnny Tremain comes to mind.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (xEt5a)

676 Ace, I recommend the Lord Darcy stories by Randall Garrett.

Also, I recommend another Randall Garrett book which is in the public domain. You can get this free from several web sites: _Unwise Child_

I have read and re-read that book at least a dozen times.

Posted by: mr_jack at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (EWtCc)

677 ELO: Telephone Line. Mmm mmm mmm

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (lwiT4)

678 ELO first hit in the 70's. All over the radio.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (jm1YL)
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And somebody had to clean that up.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (vDqXW)

679 Brad, ace isn't talking polemics, he's talking about reading in a more enjoyable time.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (Xpw10)

680 I fuckin hate everyone left of center and most in the center

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CW4Xz)

681 Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (zLDYs)

...

Added to list.

H/T

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (JJ9bx)

682 632; saw muscle shoals on netflix. they were legends.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (KP5rU)

683 tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM

*shakes fist*

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (I9Sw7)

684 Nah. Opel GT was steel. Looked it up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CDGwz)

685 Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (PUmDY)

686 What did the hippie say when he couldn't score any drugs at a Greatful Dead concert?

"Man, these guys really suck!"

Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (rmyUw)

687 I like ELO up the record that my wife starts to like them.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (vDqXW)

688 302 >>led me to
"House to House" by SSG David Bellavia
looks to be brutal



It's a good book!

Great book. What those men went through was amazing.

Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (cBE0b)

689 657 bluebell

See my 654. It's back to a day-care now? And the DRB HQ is gone. Yah.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (hyuyC)

690 I fuckin hate everyone ...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CW4Xz)


Just stop right there Chief. You hit it in four notes.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (fiGNd)

691 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

Stones.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (PFd3d)

692 Young adult fiction pre-1960s is really good. Johnny Tremain comes to mind.
Posted by: parsimony
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Have A Copy [X]

Don't Have A Copy [ ]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (CDGwz)

693 Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?



The one that's still going.

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (fuK7c)

694 686 What did the hippie say when he couldn't score any drugs at a Greatful Dead concert?

"Man, these guys really suck!"
Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (rmyUw)


It's an old joke, and not a bad one, but having gone through more than my share of those dead sober, I can't see much truth there.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (Vb4BV)

695 582 I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)


I'm not buying that. The Beatles had more to do with creating the "psychedelic movement" than the Beach Boys. But they didn't do it by themselves either.

Although there was quite a rivalry between them. McCartney was very impressed by "Pet Sounds", which sort of inspired the studio effects on "Sgt. Pepper".

Personally, my favorite Beatles albums are "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver", along with the 1966 single "Paperback Writer"/"Rain". They rocked a hell of a lot more than "Sgt. Pepper".

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (sdi6R)

696 Oh, shit! Geraldo is about to . . . Fuck him! Sorry folks. Geraldo can go straight to hell!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (v1udk)

697 Yep, Salty.

https://tinyurl.com/y7eljlpx

And the DRB is not exactly gone, just moved to Sunrise Valley. Luckily we are not subject to it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (JJZzu)

698 Most over-rated band of all time is U2. I can't think of a single song of theirs I would want to play at a wedding or even a funeral or any other occasion.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (KN1xl)

699 Geraldo discussing the illegal alien killing Mollie Tibbetts... so predictable.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (hECVl)

700 691, first one came to mind.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (PUmDY)

701


I recommend any Tom Swift book.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (HaL55)

702 I fuckin hate everyone ...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CW4Xz)

Just stop right there Chief. You hit it in four notes.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (fiGNd)

well the list is long and glorious. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (CW4Xz)

703
WOUNDED DEER, Massachusetts -- Emily Dickinson College sophomore Fawn Liebowitz died suddenly last week in a kiln explosion on campus. Liebowitz, 20, a sociology major from Fort Wayne, Indiana, was tragically killed while firing a pot in the new kiln in Sylvia Plath Hall. "Messy" was how Wounded Deer Fire Chief Michael Redman described the scene of the accident. "It was hard to tell the pot shards from the body parts," said the pyrodefense professional. "She just blew like a frog sucking on a cherry bomb," Redman added. The cleanup of Plath Hall has been further complicated by a thin coat of glaze that has affixed many of the body parts to the light fixtures and hand railings. In the wake of this tragedy, there has been talk among Emily Dickinson students of renaming Plath Hall to Fawn Hall. Until she was blown to bits, friends would say that Fawn's best feature was her smile. Her roommate, Shelly Dubinsky (sophomore, primitive cultures), described Fawn as "a special friend who liked to share her thoughts and experiences, and who had a curiosity about life and relationships." Her long-time boyfriend (they were "engaged to be engaged"), Eric "Otter" Stratton of nearby Faber College, was in shock when he first learned of Fawn's passing. "I just talked to her last week. She was going to make a pot for me," Stratton said while attempting to hold back tears. Services have already been held. In lieu of flowers or donations, the family requests that friends express their grief by posting comments on line at: www.myspace.com/crazycueball. CCNN thanks The Blue Republic (www.thebluerepublic.com) for contributing to this iReport.

(Via CNN iReport)

The Perfessor


https://cuppacafe.com/fawn-liebowitz-dies/20160

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (pNxlR)

704 Watching Victor Davis Hanson right now.

For people who are wealthy, and have connections and influence, losing nobly is an option...

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (2lndx)

705 >>Issac Newton Square, Reston. They tore down the old building and put in a day care. Later it became a gym.


Oh, thanks!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (W+vEI)

706 677: grammie, i had that album. some doobie smoking "friend" borrowed it for cleaning his cheap ass pot. never saw the album again. fucker. lost a lot of music back then.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (KP5rU)

707 691 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"


.....

Aerosmith?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (JJ9bx)

708 ''I like them a lot. And Jeff Lynne's done a lot for music.

Great band.''

There's a great video on YouTube of them performing "It's Magic". All dressed in matching satin pants and shirts. The violin player's is a little tight if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (jm1YL)

709 When I was 12 I had just read The Lord of the Rings straight through for the third time, and was going through Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain, that lovely YA tribute to Welsh & Irish legendry. Also had just started getting into Heinlein in a serious way, had read "Salem's Lot" by Stephen King (scared the pants off me) and had found a collection of stories by this dude H.P. Lovecraft....

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (W+kMI)

710 Mollie Tibbetts. Wasn't the guy that killed Chandra Levy an illegal?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (CDGwz)

711 647 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
--------------

for me, that is a bit of Heinlein, and every Hardy Boys book published.


yeah, I was kinda weird.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (UsCnO)

712 Watching Tales From The Crypt from the first season. Good stuff

Posted by: giovanni boccaccio at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (N1ZXu)

713 er, sock.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (N1ZXu)

714 Reading The Hobbit on my Rust Belt vacation. Hadn't read it in a while. Great book. Tolkien had a gift of describing locations vividly but without it taking 500 words.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (LUyqH)

715 698 Most over-rated band of all time is U2. I can't think of a single song of theirs I would want to play at a wedding or even a funeral or any other occasion.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (KN1xl)


They have considerable talent. I don't like most of their music (two songs excepted, one of which most people hate), but I can see that it's damn good, as with Springsteen. Are you sure you're not reacting to Bono's narcissism? That's what sets world records, not the overrating of the band.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (Vb4BV)

716 Alberta Oil Peon....was it expensive, and was it a quick fix?

my 95 needs it.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (Tm+wy)

717 Oh, shit! Geraldo is about to . . . Fuck him! Sorry folks. Geraldo can go straight to hell!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (v1udk)

------------

Is he making excuses for the darling illegal dreamer?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (I16G8)

718 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

*ahem*

Posted by: Bob Dylan at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (sdi6R)

719 695: rickl, agreed. paperback writer/rain was some of their best.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (KP5rU)

720 bluebell

I have a 7 and 3 record with the DRB. The last loss was one of the reasons to leave Reston.

Thanks for the link. We both had correct, in part, comment. It was always a day care, and the original building was torn down. The gym was catacorner to the day care.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (hyuyC)

721 ELO? How about ELP?

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (cSfOv)

722 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

Stones.
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (PFd3d)


Ah ... Steel Wheels. '89. Cardinal Stadium. My Senior Year.

A couple dumb ass goody-two-shoes girls going "What's That Smell". Nothin' you need to worry about.

And ... classic ... one of 'em waiting on me in the parking lot on Monday Morning - making sure I kept my mouth shut.

Of course. I got a reputation too, honey ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (fiGNd)

723 Age 12 I was running through a lot of Asimov. Also the diaries of Adrian Mole, Susan Cooper, and George Orwell's Animal Farm.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (N1ZXu)

724

"Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"


ZZ Top.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (HaL55)

725 some doobie smoking "friend"

Shit, I forgot the Doobie Brothers.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:56 PM (dUJdY)

726 710 Mollie Tibbetts. Wasn't the guy that killed Chandra Levy an illegal?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (CDGwz)


Um, yeah, sure.

Posted by: Gary Condit at August 21, 2018 09:56 PM (Vb4BV)

727 592 ''Oh and one more... The Eagles.''


Only before Randy Meisner quit. They never let him sing enough.Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (jm1YL
QFT...
That, and getting rid of Bernie Leadon.

Posted by: browndog at August 21, 2018 09:56 PM (bGMOs)

728 "I read Jazz Shaw's post today about teenagers no longer reading, and the idea (which I can attest to personally) that when you stop reading, your skill at it diminishes. (As do all skills.)"

---------

In my experience it is the girls that are not reading books, boys are reading adventure books, adolescent sci-fi and fantasy.

Historically girls would ready romances but those have become so despised that they now read nothing and all their text is on Instagram, Unintended consequences of so called feminism.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:56 PM (KN1xl)

729 I've pretty much read everything that needs being read in terms of classic works and such.
I tend to see modern books along the same lines as other modern forms of entertainment, like movies or television.

For instance give a modern book to equal The Road To Serfdom or Reflections on The Revolution in France or Red Badge of Courge?


These days I'm reading either art books or Piano books.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 09:56 PM (kT3/m)

730 692 Young adult fiction pre-1960s is really good. Johnny Tremain comes to mind.
Posted by: parsimony
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Have A Copy [X]

Don't Have A Copy [ ]
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"Johnny Tremain" better explained the American Revolution then all of my American History textbooks added up. It is also better than "My Brother Sam is Dead", that piece of crypto-Marxist relativist-pacifist crap disguised as YA fiction.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:56 PM (W+kMI)

731 SD, I went to the show atLegion Field. In Living Color opened.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (PUmDY)

732 I seriously dislike their music, but I have to admit that if you're cataloging bands who rode out the 80's well, after the Stones, you have to include Steely Dan.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (Vb4BV)

733 I seem to recall that the Opel GT was plastic? Maybe not.

Anyhow, Fiero.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (CDGwz)

Opel GT was metal, except for the rust.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (LI7AQ)

734 Pretty sure that HPL would have fucked me up if I'd read him as a kid. Shadow Over Innsmouth scared the crap out of me aged ~20.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (N1ZXu)

735

ELO? How about ELP?


My personal favorite. The World's Best Three-Piece Band.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (HaL55)

736 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

For pure longevity and sales ? ZZ Top and AC/DC never missed a beat.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (fiGNd)

737 Playing now as I type is Jeff Beck, Blow by Blow.
Life long love of music and it grows as my stereo kit improved with more money and experience getting gear to perform. My point is that the beatles etc sound okay on the radio but so much is not heard. A great kit makes you weep for joy at just how wonderful music can be.



Posted by: d9 at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (WX+x0)

738 736 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

For pure longevity and sales ? ZZ Top and AC/DC never missed a beat.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (fiGNd)


This. As in many fields, the real winners are the ones who made it look effortless.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (Vb4BV)

739 For scifi fans, the Murderbot Diaries (novellas) are very good. Martha Grimes.

Posted by: Anna Mac at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (rj4Yf)

740 For pure longevity and sales ? ZZ Top and AC/DC never missed a beat.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM

....

Pink Floyd?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (JJ9bx)

741 Captains Courageous is my all time favorite book.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (2DOZq)

742 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

Elvis Costello

Peter Gabriel

Linda Ronstadt

The Cure

Most overrated: Depeche Mode

Posted by: James OBrien at August 21, 2018 09:59 PM (viJE+)

743 Most over-rated band of all time is U2. I can't think of a single song of theirs I would want to play at a wedding or even a funeral or any other occasion.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (KN1xl)

Good hangin' music. Would make the condemned grateful for the drop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 09:59 PM (LI7AQ)

744 SD, were you at the dead freedom hall 89 or cardinal stadium 90 shows?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (PUmDY)

745 oh, and reading MZB's Mists Of Avalon at age 13 was a fucking huge mistake on my part.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (N1ZXu)

746 >>>Long Black Road

winner

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (Tm+wy)

747 SD, I went to the show atLegion Field. In Living Color opened.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:57 PM (PUmDY)


They opened at Louisville too ... and were really damn good. Should I Stay Or Should I Go was very, very good.

The Stones played for a solid two plus hours. I couldn't believe I paid $25 to go ... that was a bunch of money for bleacher seats back then. It was worth it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (fiGNd)

748 ''I like them a lot. And Jeff Lynne's done a lot for music.

Great band.''

----------

ELON still rocks my socks off.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (KN1xl)

749 Just got here. I like the idea of Poe stories. I was a big fan in the past. Also a book that I recall enjoying a long time ago that was also short was One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (+lVUW)

750 The first Lovecraft story I read out of that collection was "The Color Out of Space". Man, talk about getting dropped in the deep end! But it was great, scared me silly, was well written, and it was just the first story in that book....

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (W+kMI)

751 Just popping in to say:

The busty blond in the 'Top 5 dating sites!' clickbait ad on the main page is rocking that low cut dress.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 21, 2018 10:01 PM (6U3DW)

752 Regarding, AC/DC and ZZ, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:01 PM (PUmDY)

753 well, did ace pick a book?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (CE6iV)

754 i would rather listen to u2 than floyd. any day. fuck pink floyd.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (KP5rU)

755 736 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

For pure longevity and sales ? ZZ Top and AC/DC never missed a beat.
Posted by: ScoggDog



RUSH too. They did finally call it quits a couple of years a ago. Guess they had enough. I have read they all have various ailments so that probably had something to do with it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (LUyqH)

756

A great kit makes you weep for joy at just how wonderful music can be.


I wish I had room here at stately Casa Backwardio to set up my little entry-level audiophile setup. Damn that system sounded great.


These days, it's this laptop. I can plug in my Scarlett Solo and strap on the studio monitor headphones and have a lot of fun listening to FLAC files.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (HaL55)

757 My votes for best bands of the 80's are the Replacements and he Pogues.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (1Fa/H)

758 well, did ace pick a book?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (CE6iV)

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Not that I saw.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (I16G8)

759 717 Oh, shit! Geraldo is about to . . . Fuck him! Sorry folks. Geraldo can go straight to hell!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (v1udk)

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Is he making excuses for the darling illegal dreamer?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (I16G


Basicly, but he at least didn't say "but" after the obligatory "we feel so bad for the girl's family".

What he did do is the line of "illegals are no worse", but Sean cut him off and said "he shouldn't have ever been here, that's the point".


And that last sentence is EXACTLY the issue, and the Left ignoring it in response.

One bad apple ruins the whole barrel of good apples. And the bad apple legally should not have been there.

Until that is addressed, nothing changes.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (UsCnO)

760 Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (LUyqH)

Too old to lug around that drum kit anymore.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (2DOZq)

761 745 oh, and reading MZB's Mists Of Avalon at age 13 was a fucking huge mistake on my part.
===
S'okay, you were not the only one. That tome did NOT do well in repeated readings, and I haven't been able to even look at one of her books since her daughter's story came out...

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (W+kMI)

762 ''For scifi fans, the Murderbot Diaries (novellas) are very good. Martha Grimes.''

Yes they are. Last novella coming out in Oct. I understand there is to be a full length novel in 2019. Hooray!

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (jm1YL)

763 Repeat vote for Animal Farm for the book read.

Posted by: Channeling a Dem Voter at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (PFd3d)

764 742 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

Elvis Costello

Peter Gabriel

Linda Ronstadt

The Cure

Most overrated: Depeche Mode
Posted by: James OBrien at August 21, 2018 09:59 PM (viJE+)


Point of order: The Cure and Depeche Mode were from the 1980s, weren't they? At least I don't remember them before the 80s.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (sdi6R)

765 All time fav sci fi is Battlefield Earth. We need heroes in life and Jonny Goodboy Tyler is the hero.
Always liked Starship Trooper.

Posted by: d9 at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (WX+x0)

766
ZZ Top, peace be upon them. Well, piece be upon them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (8O3HH)

767 A muzik thread. And I missed it.

*Kirk Douglas voice*

Damn you all to hell!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (6qErC)

768 "ELON still rocks my socks off."

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Oh, for Pete's sake. It's Electric Light Orchestra, not Elon Musk otherwise. Autocucumber is the pits.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (KN1xl)

769 Alberta Oil Peon....was it expensive, and was it a quick fix?

my 95 needs it.
Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (Tm+wy)

Thirty-seven dollars (!) for the belt, and something like nine dollars for the can of ozone-depleting refrigerant I had to put into it. But it blows nice and cold now!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (LI7AQ)

770 Heinlein suggestion:

Short Story: All You Zombies.

Novel:

Double Star
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Citizen of the Galaxy
Space Cadet
Starship Troopers
Have Spacesuit; Will Travel.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (hyuyC)

771 The Replacements were ok. Not a huge fanboy of them. Thought Husker Du was better.

Loved The Pogues.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (LUyqH)

772 SD, 2000 Light Years was cool to hear live.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:05 PM (PUmDY)

773 You can only be magnanimous when you win.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 10:05 PM (2lndx)

774 763 Repeat vote for Animal Farm for the book read.
Posted by: Channeling a Dem Voter at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (PFd3d)


OK, thirded. Never read it, always known I should.

Fallback choice I've also never read and should: Watership Down.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:05 PM (Vb4BV)

775 Night, all. Early morning ahead of me. Have a good one.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 10:05 PM (SRarZ)

776 Not that I saw.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (I16G

Hah! He's like me when shoe-shopping.
So many choices...still can't find the perfect fit.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 10:05 PM (CE6iV)

777 well, did ace pick a book?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (CE6iV)
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I think it was Monster Manual.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 10:05 PM (vDqXW)

778 Pink Floyd?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (JJ9bx)


The Final Cut and Momentary Lapse of Reason was all they released in the 80s.

I don't care much for Final Cut.

But ... Momentary Lapse of Reason is one of those albums, at least for me, that you can just put on and let go. No reason to skip anything.

It's subjective.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:06 PM (fiGNd)

779 All time fav sci fi is Battlefield Earth.

*********************

The movie version with Travolta was just as good too!

Posted by: Said no one, ever at August 21, 2018 10:06 PM (+dsLj)

780 The movie version with Travolta was just as good too!
Posted by: Said no one, ever at August 21, 2018 10:06 PM (+dsLj)

Travolta was rocking those dreads!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (CE6iV)

781 "Spillover" was very similar to hot zone. It's less like a thriller, but very scary nonetheless.

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (q177U)

782 Most overrated band of the 80s were Wham. Nobody thinks they were any good, yet they are still overrated.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (1Fa/H)

783 ELON still rocks my socks off.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:00 PM (KN1xl)


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I'll rocket your socks off. SpaceX socks.

Posted by: Elon Musk at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (/qEW2)

784 A Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich


Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (BfOXk)

785 Never read it, always known I should.

Yes. Animal Farm is amazing. It continually amazes me that Orwell saw the heart of socialism so clearly, and still thought it would work if people just listened to him.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (2lndx)

786 >>>But it blows nice and cold now!

lucky bum!
good for you.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (Tm+wy)

787 Novel:

Double Star
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Citizen of the Galaxy
Space Cadet
Starship Troopers
Have Spacesuit; Will Travel.

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THHIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSS

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:08 PM (xEt5a)

788 Music is always subjective. If there is a way for it not to be, I don't know it.

My latest discovery was big in the early 60's, and is a folk singer who never got all that famous. I've been listening to his songs, one after the other, and not found one I do not like. I even think his playing might have been a bit of influence on that guy I saw in concert 200+ times.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:08 PM (Vb4BV)

789 Whoa. Steely Dan didn't make it out of the 80s.

They did Gaucho in 1980. Then broke up. And Don and Walt did their solo stuff, and then reformed in 2000, for Two Against Nature.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (vDqXW)

790 Have a great night everyone. Have fun on the ONT.

May you all have sweet dreams.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (hyuyC)

791 It continually amazes me that Orwell saw the heart of socialism so clearly, and still thought it would work


I think it is an emotional thing, but the heart of man is evil.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (I9Sw7)

792 I read Treasure Island for the first time about a year ago (in my late 40s).
It was quite fun.
I recommend it.
Starship Troopers by Heinlein is also a great choice.

Posted by: Incognitos at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (e8jfn)

793 Two short books I enjoyed are by Kim Newman (who is a guy) both set in late Victorian England. Professor Moriarty: The Hound of the D'Ubbervilles is a dark (very dark) comedy featuring Sherlock
Holmes nemesis and his henchman, Colonel Sebastion "Basher" Moran. I liked it so well I bought Anno Dracula expecting another dark comedy but it's more a full fledged horror novel. One of the things I liked in both is that there are a number of Easter eggs that the fine eye for detail with a good knowledge of the late 19th century will find:

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (+y/Ru)

794 My granddaughter was packing up my CDs in preparation for painting thenspare room and she had three huge boxes and only half way through. I hadn't realised how much music I bought over the years.

Then there are two shelves of LPs and another trunk of 45s dating back to 1973.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (KN1xl)

795 During the 70's rock was pretty much radio music, background to parties, bars etc. I listened but didn't make an investment so to speak Would much rather have bought a new opera recording or seen Luciano Pavarotti live. Now I guess nostalgia for my youth is setting in and I find myself listening to and reading about the that music with renewed interest. Kind of strange. Oh to be young again. Sigh.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (jm1YL)

796 Night all, we have to get up early to see the spine docs. Be well all. May see you in the middle of the night if I wake up. Be well.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (yJ1e6)

797 782 Most overrated band of the 80s were Wham. Nobody thinks they were any good, yet they are still overrated.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 10:07 PM (1Fa/H)


I remember being in a record store, back when there were record stores, and seeing an album cover with two gay-looking douchebag faces on it. It was called "Wham! Make it Big."

My thought was: these guys will never amount to anything. Nice try, douchebags.

Which is why I try not to make predictions, anymore.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (Vb4BV)

798 RUSH too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (LUyqH)


Played guitar in college with a few dudes that idolized Lifeson.

Just wasn't my thing. Although I really liked Moving Pictures. Just seemed - to me - that none of their other albums sounded nearly close to the same.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:10 PM (fiGNd)

799 How do you keep a Moron Horde in suspense?



........

Posted by: Belated ONT at August 21, 2018 10:11 PM (JJ9bx)

800 AC/DC was a movement, you were part of it or you had no idea about it. And the movement started in the late '70's.

Even after Bon Scott died, they changed lead singers and just kept selling out stadiums all over the world for 30 years, until they essentially went deaf and insane.


Yet they were never rock n roll "royalty" like the British Beatles or Stones, or the American super groups of the late '70's-'80's, Eagles, Springsteen, Doobies.


AC/DC was always on their own plane, and it was crazy and fun, and never ending. The fans were different, too, just giving a different vibe than other bands.


And they always sold out.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 10:11 PM (UsCnO)

801 It continually amazes me that Orwell saw the heart of socialism so clearly, and still thought it would work


Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (I9Sw7)
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Actually, Orwell didn't *know* whether it would work or not. He was just against authoritarian government. He thought that if there could be a communal-based socialism, that's what he backed, and he thought it was worth trying out.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (vDqXW)

802 Well, this thread was the most fun I've had on Ace for a long time.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (I9Sw7)

803 Are we going for 1000 again tonight?

I have a suggestion for the AoS Style Guide.
Attorney, is to be reserved for those we know and trust, ie Insomniac and the delightful AtC.

Lawyers, as a pejorative, is for the pond scum like Cohen, the DoJ and every other anti American member of the bar.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (wgCUV)

804 My votes for best bands of the 80's are the Replacements and he Pogues.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 10:03 PM (1Fa/H)

Who?

Posted by: tbodie at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (lwpdV)

805 698 Most over-rated band of all time is U2. I can't think of a single song of theirs I would want to play at a wedding or even a funeral or any other occasion.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (KN1xl)

This. Add the shitheel Bruce Springsteen to the list too. Fucking awful.

For the book my vote is Lord of the Flies.

Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (cBE0b)

806 The movie Travolta made was a hot stupid mess, like him.

1000 page turner it is and has scale of time and action. You like what you like. It was always fun to read.

Has anyone of the horde read it?

Posted by: d9 at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (WX+x0)

807 Point of order: The Cure and Depeche Mode were from the 1980s, weren't they? At least I don't remember them before the 80s.


Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM


Depeche Mode were an 80's band... The Cure however were a 70's band.

Posted by: otho at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (LkFnL)

808 I think it is an emotional thing, but the heart of man is evil.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (I9Sw7)


Yeah ... that's deep. I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.

Wow.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (fiGNd)

809 People like to say 1984 wasn't meant as a how-to guide, but seeing as how well that shit is working these days I gotta wonder if Orwell really did write it as a stealthy how-to guide.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 10:13 PM (PFd3d)

810 805 For the book my vote is Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (cBE0b)


Oh please no

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:13 PM (Vb4BV)

811 788 ...Splunge, Who was the folk singer?

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 10:14 PM (V+03K)

812 I can highly recommend Larry's Nivens' collection of short stories titled All The Myriad Ways, ESPECIALLY the story "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." Just about all of Niven's works, actually, but I definitely suggest you start there!

Posted by: Mattski at August 21, 2018 10:15 PM (9pmiQ)

813 Just found Fleetwood Mac's Rumours among the vinyls.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:15 PM (KN1xl)

814 811 788 ...Splunge, Who was the folk singer?
Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 10:14 PM (V+03K)


I wondered if someone would bite.

It's Dave van Ronk.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:15 PM (Vb4BV)

815 The Pogues were quite good, if you are into Irish music.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 10:15 PM (JJ9bx)

816 lord of the flies. is that another ophuckstick ghost written pile of monkey shit?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 10:16 PM (KP5rU)

817 Short: Animal Farm, George Orwell

Fun: The Godfather, Mario Puzo

Classic: Lonesome Dove, Larry McMurtry

Nostalgia: My Dog Skip, Willie Morris

Posted by: bigjack at August 21, 2018 10:16 PM (eD3Jy)

818 739 For scifi fans, the Murderbot Diaries (novellas) are very good. Martha Grimes.
Posted by: Anna Mac at August 21, 2018 09:58 PM (rj4Yf)

Did she ever put a fork in her Richard Jury series? I read about 12 of those before the formula bored me to tears.

Posted by: Gem at August 21, 2018 10:16 PM (XoAz8)

819 My vote for the book would be The Armchair Economist

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 10:16 PM (v1udk)

820 Depeche Mode were an 80's band... The Cure however were a 70's band.
Posted by: otho at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (LkFnL)

The Cure were most definitely an '80's band, who actually carried over with a successful album in the early '90's. Truly great popsters. The Head on the Door is a wonderful album start to finish.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:16 PM (xEt5a)

821 ''I remember being in a record store, back when there were record stores, ....''

Wasn't it fun to flip through the rows of albums? We had a great record store across High Street from the OSU campus. Loved to go in there between classes. They'd even play an album for you before you decided to buy it.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:17 PM (jm1YL)

822 It continually amazes me that Orwell saw the heart of socialism so clearly, and still thought it would work


Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (I9Sw7)
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Actually, Orwell didn't *know* whether it would work or not. He was just against authoritarian government. He thought that if there could be a communal-based socialism, that's what he backed, and he thought it was worth trying out.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (vDqXW)

Remember, he was only 46 when he died. I've often wondered how his political philosophy would have developed had he lived longer.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2018 10:17 PM (Rg9Ab)

823 Heinlein suggestion:

Short Story: All You Zombies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 10:04 PM (hyuyC)


Jeez, that's not a good choice for someone to start with! A far better one of his with basically the same topic without the pervyness is "By His Bootstraps". There even is a PDF on google.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 21, 2018 10:17 PM (FTPn0)

824 814, I was ignoring you because I thought you were going to say Woody Guthrie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:18 PM (PUmDY)

825 "For the book my vote is Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (cBE0b)

Oh please no
Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:13 PM (Vb4BV)"

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No, no and no. Had to do that one in high school and never want to read it again.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:18 PM (KN1xl)

826 Heinlein
The moon is a harsh mistress.

I don't remember much of it and would read it again.

Probably hasn't aged well.



Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM (I9Sw7)

827 Where is ONT?

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM (PFd3d)

828 Point of order: The Cure and Depeche Mode were from the 1980s, weren't they? At least I don't remember them before the 80s.

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The Cure formed in the late 70's, their first alum released in 79. Robert Smith also spent about a year as lead guitarist for Suouxsie and he Banshees while still in The Cure.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM (1Fa/H)

829 A Brief History of Time, by Stephen Hawking

Posted by: Honu at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM (bDvNV)

830 824 814, I was ignoring you because I thought you were going to say Woody Guthrie.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:18 PM (PUmDY)


Yikes. And yes, I admit I thought you would be the one to bite on that lure.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM (Vb4BV)

831 737 Playing now as I type is Jeff Beck, Blow by Blow.


Outstanding album.


Freeway Jam? Doing this from memory. Awesome.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM (UsCnO)

832 814 811 788 ...Splunge, Who was the folk singer?
Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 10:14 PM (V+03K)

I wondered if someone would bite.

It's Dave van Ronk.
Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:15 PM (Vb4BV)


Who was the guy you saw in concert 200+ times?

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 10:20 PM (sdi6R)

833 825 "For the book my vote is Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (cBE0b)

Oh please no
Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:13 PM (Vb4BV)"

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No, no and no. Had to do that one in high school and never want to read it again.

Sorry but I really liked that book. I'm going to buy it on kindle and read it on the plane tomorrow.

Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 10:20 PM (cBE0b)

834 "For the book my vote is Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (cBE0b)

Oh please no
Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:13 PM (Vb4BV)"

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No, no and no. Had to do that one in high school and never want to read it again.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:18 PM (KN1xl)

Just go to a college campus and you can see it live every day.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 21, 2018 10:20 PM (FTPn0)

835

Wasn't it fun to flip through the rows of albums? We had a great record store across High Street from the OSU campus. Loved to go in there between classes. They'd even play an album for you before you decided to buy it.


Peaches Records.

That is all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 10:20 PM (HaL55)

836
I have a suggestion for the AoS Style Guide.
Attorney, is to be reserved for those we know and trust, ie Insomniac and the delightful AtC.
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I believe the noble Cicero is also attorney?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:20 PM (CDGwz)

837 Just found Fleetwood Mac's Rumours among the vinyls.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:15 PM (KN1xl)


A damn classic. So many good tunes on that.

My personal favorite is The Chain.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (fiGNd)

838 ''Just found Fleetwood Mac's Rumours among the vinyls.''

Now that was a big deal. Even I remember that. Everybody had that album sitting around their apartment.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (jm1YL)

839 Yeah ... that's deep. I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.


Wow.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (fiGNd)

Really?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (wYseH)

840 832 Who was the guy you saw in concert 200+ times?
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 10:20 PM (sdi6R)


Um. Ask Charlie.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (Vb4BV)

841 The Cure were most definitely an '80's band, who actually carried over with a successful album in the early '90's. Truly great popsters. The Head on the Door is a wonderful album start to finish.


Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:16 PM


Well, they hit their commercial stride in the 80's and were kind of pioneers, but they were definitely a 1970's band that were part of the punk/postpunk/newwave thing and rode into the 80's.

Posted by: otho at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (LkFnL)

842
Just go to a college campus and you can see it live every day.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Pretty sure the mob at UNC was chanting 'Kill the Pig! Kill the Pig' last night as they pulled down Silent Sam.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:22 PM (CDGwz)

843 Way, way late to the thread.

But what I do know, is that I read some books way faster than others. Not really because of the plot, or the chapter-end draws.

Bottom line, it's how the writer tells the story. My favorite writers are Larry McMurtry, JRR Tolkien, Harper Lee, Steven Pressfield and, oddly (perhaps) George Roo-Roo Martin. I read their books very quickly (for me. I am a slow, but determined reader).


I enjoy reading immensely, and yet I cannot read faster than I hear someone talking. My wife, and my sons can scan a page and retain it. I am just one step above moving my lips when I read.


Maybe two steps.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 21, 2018 10:22 PM (EhZNT)

844 I have been considering re-reading some of the books I was forced to read in school and do a proper 2,000 word, double spaced report.
"The Red Badge of Courage" by Stephen Crane is one that comes to mind.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at August 21, 2018 10:23 PM (yScAF)

845 798 RUSH too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 10:02 PM (LUyqH)

Played guitar in college with a few dudes that idolized Lifeson.

Just wasn't my thing. Although I really liked Moving Pictures. Just seemed - to me - that none of their other albums sounded nearly close to the same.
Posted by: ScoggDog



There sound changed decade to decade. Part of there charm. I probably got my 'questions' mixed up. I was thinking of a band that formed in the 70s and were successful right through the 80s and beyond.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 10:23 PM (LUyqH)

846 ''Peaches Records.

That is all.''

They came to Columbus in the 70's. Frequented the store on Morse Rd. often. Unlike many record stores, they had huge classical and opera collections.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:23 PM (jm1YL)

847 Where's the ONT?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (DzFIB)

848 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:12 PM (fiGNd)

Really?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (wYseH)


Hey ... I'm cogitating. Don't screw this up for me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (fiGNd)

849 836 I didn't mean to leave out any of our esteemed attornies here. I just don't know them all. No slight was meant. I know several excellent attornies and too many lawyers. No, I'm not in the legal biz. Did I mention that AtC is a goddess?

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (wgCUV)

850 It's Dave van Ronk.


I told this story recently in a thread in which nobody cared, so I shall now retell it with better hopes.

"The House of the Rising Sun" was a traditional song, but van Ronk gave it a new arrangement and chord progression and it became popular in the Village folk scene.

Dylan asked van Ronk if he minded if he, Dylan, recorded it on his debut album. Van Ronk said cool, Dylan said good because the album's already been pressed.

So all of a sudden van Ronk had to stop playing his song because everyone kept asking him why he was doing a Dylan tune. Then the Animals had a hit with van Ronk's chord progression and Dylan had to stop playing it because everyone asked him why he was playing an Animals song/

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (fuK7c)

851 Most over-rated band of all time is U2

I'd agree, but the first three songs on The Joshua Tree equals 1987 and 1987 was one of the two best years of my life.

Posted by: Chuck C at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (YTxkQ)

852 Early 80s, as a continuation of late 70s starting bands, had some exciting music.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (PUmDY)

853 I know! 'Uncle Tom's Cabin'. Then we can get really, really, self righteously angry at people who died 150 years ago.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:26 PM (CDGwz)

854 No one needs this shit in their life. GFY

49

Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at August 21, 2018 10:27 PM (yScAF)

855 My personal favorite is The Chain.

Hard to choose a favourite between that one, Daddy, and Dreams. And Go Your Own Way. And Gold Dust Woman - fuck it, almost the whole album was perfect.

(Except for Don't Stop. Trust the Clintons to choose the one turd in the lineup.)

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 10:27 PM (N1ZXu)

856 846 ''Peaches Records.

That is all.''

They came to Columbus in the 70's. Frequented the store on Morse Rd. often. Unlike many record stores, they had huge classical and opera collections.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:23 PM (jm1YL)


Weren't they on campus?

Posted by: Ladyl at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (v4pQ0)

857 ''Early 80s, as a continuation of late 70s starting bands, had some exciting music.''

Such as..?

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (jm1YL)

858 Oh, the eighties had The Smiths with Morrisey. Overrated and depressing!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (v1udk)

859 5 I just read MASTER AND COMMANDER by Patrick O'Brien. A delightful work of historical fiction and there seem to be about ten sequels which I'll be wolfing down in the coming months. (The movie they made of it seems to be a mix of stuff from more than one of the books.)

Posted by: joeclark


More like 17.5 sequels or so -- a half one unfinished released by the estate. You'll still wolf them down. Extremely well written.

I loved those books. I might read though them again.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (IeDO8)

860 Ah, excuse me
Oh will you excuse me
I'm just trying to find the ONT!
Has anybody seen the ONT?
Please!
(Have you seen the ONT?)
I ain't seen the ONT!
(Where's that confounded ONT?)

Posted by: Robert Plant at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (vDqXW)

861 I think it is an emotional thing, but the heart of man is evil.
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:09 PM (I9Sw7)

1000% agree with this.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (sFofr)

862 Wasn't it fun to flip through the rows of albums? We had a great record store across High Street from the OSU campus. Loved to go in there between classes. They'd even play an album for you before you decided to buy it.
Posted by: Tuna

Are you talking about "Magnolia Thunderpussy"?

Yeah, that was a record store near the OSU campus.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (S6Pax)

863 Concerned People's Front has started something he can't finish.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo, morrissey and marr fan at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (N1ZXu)

864 Rush was an interesting band. I was a huge fan as a kid, even though Geddy's voice was often nearly unbearable. But just the other night I watched on the Yeww Toobs what was called something like the best intro ever, and it was Rush playing riffs from their catalog for about 10 minutes before rolling into The Spirit of Radio. It reminded my of just how fucking talented this power trio truly are.

Geddy's singing aside.


Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (EhZNT)

865 857 ''Early 80s, as a continuation of late 70s starting bands, had some exciting music.''

Such as..?

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM


The Sugarhill Gang

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (JJ9bx)

866 Television, Talking Heads, EC, the Jam, ie

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:30 PM (PUmDY)

867 I recommend War and Peace. Kind of long, but it must be read in the original Russian to truly appreciate how long it is.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:30 PM (IeDO8)

868 The Sugarhill Gang
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (JJ9bx)

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Roger and Zapp

Posted by: SMH at August 21, 2018 10:30 PM (VLEp3)

869 Hard to choose a favourite between that one, Daddy, and Dreams. And Go Your Own Way. And Gold Dust Woman - fuck it, almost the whole album was perfect.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 10:27 PM (N1ZXu)


And Landslide. You're right ... that damn album's just about perfect.

Me and a cat at the shop I contract to alot talk about this all the time. Just how many albums can you put in - or on, back in the day - and just let friggin' play ?

Not many. But RUMORS was one you could.

And I don't think it's a coincidence that those kind of albums remain "timeless". They just catch "something".

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (fiGNd)

870 I did it first. Hornblower. That O'Brien fellow is a wanna-be.

Posted by: C.S. Forester at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (CDGwz)

871 *bangs on ceiling with broom handle*

Where's the ONT?

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (EhZNT)

872 Almost 10 million views on YouTube...

https://tinyurl.com/nezarjf


Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (PFd3d)

873 Maybe read Huckleberry Finn or Tom Sawyer, while you're still allowed to.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (IeDO8)

874 Well, they hit their commercial stride in the 80's and were kind of pioneers, but they were definitely a 1970's band that were part of the punk/postpunk/newwave thing and rode into the 80's.
Posted by: otho at August 21, 2018 10:21 PM (LkFnL)

I'll walk my overconfident comment back. That end of the '70's thing - for me - is one with the early '80s. See Cosmic Charlie's comment at 852, kind of where I'm at.

For example, for years I thought "Cars" by Gary Numan was an '80s song because of the sound. But it's from 1979, so ... '70s.

My favorite "80's" band that really got their start in the '70s was XTC.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (xEt5a)

875 Landslide wasn't on Rumours. D'oh!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (N1ZXu)

876 Well, I think Linda Perry looked kinda hawt in that 4 Non Blondes video.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (sdi6R)

877 862 Wasn't it fun to flip through the rows of albums? We had a great record store across High Street from the OSU campus. Loved to go in there between classes. They'd even play an album for you before you decided to buy it.
Posted by: Tuna

Are you talking about "Magnolia Thunderpussy"?

Yeah, that was a record store near the OSU campus.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (S6Pax)


Do you remember the little record store at the Lane Ave Shopping Center? That was my boyfriend's parent's store.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (v4pQ0)

878 868 The Sugarhill Gang
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 10:29 PM (JJ9bx)

---

Roger and Zapp
Posted by: SMH at August 21, 2018 10:30 PM (VLEp3)

---

I'll see you Roger and Zapp and raise you a Billy Ocean

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (JJ9bx)

879 867 I recommend War and Peace. Kind of long, but it must be read in the original Russian to truly appreciate how long it is.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:30 PM (IeDO

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Maybe we could get actual Russians to collude with us help us out with this project!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (uSlc8)

880 'Uncle Tom's Cabin'. Then we can get really, really, self righteously angry at people who died 150 years ago.

I have not read Uncle Tom's Cabin; in the same vein (but nonfiction, so not eligible for the book club) was Frederick Douglass's Narrative of the Life of.... His comparison between life in the south with life in the north is Important.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (2lndx)

881 I think it is an emotional thing, but the heart of man is evil.
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr.
---------

We've all tasted of the apple.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (xSo9G)

882 More like 17.5 sequels or so -- a half one unfinished released by the estate. You'll still wolf them down. Extremely well written.

I loved those books. I might read though them again.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (IeDO

Actually 20. Plus a half. But I think 18 or so is a good place to stop.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (FTPn0)

883 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (q177U)

884 This thread has a musty smell to it. Like gym socks left in a duffle in a hot car for three days smell.

I guess I need to shower, sorry.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (pUDQf)

885 I'll see you Roger and Zapp and raise you a Billy Ocean
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (JJ9bx)

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Gap Band

Posted by: SMH at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (VLEp3)

886 ''Weren't they on campus?''

Not when I was there. We had that small record store ( I think it was called University Records or something like that) couple a block or so north of Long's Bookstore. Of course, I graduated in 71 so Peaches may have moved in after. I confess my memory is a little sketchy. On the upside I remember a lot of the bars though. Strange that.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (jm1YL)

887 Landslide wasn't on Rumours. D'oh!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (N1ZXu)


Gah ... you're right.

Then fuck it ... the album sucked. Rumors officially sucks.

Eat a Dick ... Real Life Holly Hobby !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (fiGNd)

888 We should start out with something simple, like Heather Has Two Mommies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (uSlc8)

889 Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (xEt5a)

===

The "70s" lasted until January 20, 1981.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 21, 2018 10:34 PM (EZebt)

890 A Brief History of Time, by Stephen Hawking

Posted by: Honu at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM

I am reluctant to spend the ten bucks. I've already broke the bank. Need encouragement. Tell me it's worth it.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:34 PM (I9Sw7)

891 . His comparison between life in the south with life in the north is Important.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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Well, I'll hype it again, Sowell expounds on that in 'Black Rednecks, and White Liberals'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:34 PM (xSo9G)

892 NOOOODD!!!!!

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (wgCUV)

893 Mark Helprin's A Soldier in the Great War is utterly fantastic but will ruin you for lesser quality books for a few months.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (IeDO8)

894 102 Here is a question to ponder, does Joe Halderman's science fiction novel The Forever War hold up?
*********
It does for me. I try to read "The Forever War" and "Starship Trooper" back-to-back every year.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (+nK9G)

895 ''Are you talking about "Magnolia Thunderpussy"?

Nope, I think that was south of Long's.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (jm1YL)

896 Don't think TV made it into the 80s, sadly.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (PUmDY)

897 Do you remember the little record store at the Lane Ave Shopping Center? That was my boyfriend's parent's store.
Posted by: Ladyl

I was probably in there a few times, but I don't remember the name of the store. I lived out in Grandview Heights in the early 80's.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (S6Pax)

898 I think Linda Perry looked kinda hawt...

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 10:32 PM (sdi6R)

yeah, those lips looked like they were designed for something exciting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (wYseH)

899 I did it first. Hornblower. That O'Brien fellow is a wanna-be.
Posted by: C.S. Forester at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (CDGwz)

Not as big a fan. The inner angst got very old after about book four. It didn't help that it became a thing for middling military SF people to clone HH to sell books in the 90s and not in a good way.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 21, 2018 10:35 PM (FTPn0)

900 Maybe read Huckleberry Finn or Tom Sawyer, while you're still allowed to.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 10:31 PM (IeDO

Got Twain's entire catalog in two massive volumes. That will be part of the "Books I protect at all Costs, along with the Bible, Lord of the Rings, Lonesome Dove and pretty much everything CS Lewis wrote."

Posted by: Pug Mahon,Turkey Volume Guessing Man! at August 21, 2018 10:36 PM (EhZNT)

901 886 ''Weren't they on campus?''

Not when I was there. We had that small record store ( I think it was called University Records or something like that) couple a block or so north of Long's Bookstore. Of course, I graduated in 71 so Peaches may have moved in after. I confess my memory is a little sketchy. On the upside I remember a lot of the bars though. Strange that.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:33 PM (jm1YL)


I should know everything there is to know about campus during that time, but I must have spent too much time in the Agora, Castle and Sugar Shack to remember properly.

Posted by: Ladyl at August 21, 2018 10:36 PM (v4pQ0)

902 850 I told this story recently in a thread in which nobody cared, so I shall now retell it with better hopes.

"The House of the Rising Sun" was a traditional song, but van Ronk gave it a new arrangement and chord progression and it became popular in the Village folk scene.

Dylan asked van Ronk if he minded if he, Dylan, recorded it on his debut album. Van Ronk said cool, Dylan said good because the album's already been pressed.

So all of a sudden van Ronk had to stop playing his song because everyone kept asking him why he was doing a Dylan tune. Then the Animals had a hit with van Ronk's chord progression and Dylan had to stop playing it because everyone asked him why he was playing an Animals song/
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (fuK7c)


Great story. Thank you.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:36 PM (Vb4BV)

903 ''Do you remember the little record store at the Lane Ave Shopping Center? That was my boyfriend's parent's store.''

The old Lane Ave. shopping center! Those were the days.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:37 PM (jm1YL)

904 book suggestion:

the screwtape letters by chesterton

Posted by: vivi at August 21, 2018 10:38 PM (11H2y)

905
I am reluctant to spend the ten bucks. I've already broke the bank. Need encouragement. Tell me it's worth it.
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr.
---------------

$3.64, Free Shipping:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9csyobm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:39 PM (CDGwz)

906 ''I should know everything there is to know about campus during that time, but I must have spent too much time in the Agora, Castle and Sugar Shack to remember properly.''

Oh gosh..My friends and I spent a lot of time at the Oar House.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 10:39 PM (jm1YL)

907 858 Oh, the eighties had The Smiths with Morrisey. Overrated and depressing!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 10:28 PM (v1udk)

Ha I was waiting for some Smiths hate! Not sure they could be overrated having never had a #1 single. Morrissey's singing is not for everybody (some would say not for ANYbody) but his wit was terrific. Johnny Marr's guitar parts were so melodic they stand on their own.

FWIW Morrissey's also emerged as willing to take a stand against runaway U.K. immigration (and bad architecture).

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:39 PM (xEt5a)

908 Most over rated book of the 70s and 80s....

Jonathan Livingston Seagull

What a stupid waste of trees.

Posted by: Lily, formerly of Hot Air now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night at August 21, 2018 10:40 PM (gJF8U)

909 "So all of a sudden van Ronk had to stop playing his song because everyone kept asking him why he was doing a Dylan tune. Then the Animals had a hit with van Ronk's chord progression and Dylan had to stop playing it because everyone asked him why he was playing an Animals song/
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 10:24 PM (fuK7c)"

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Bander, I love this story even if once again few people will see it.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 10:41 PM (KN1xl)

910 Last!

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 10:42 PM (xEt5a)

911
144 Earnest Hemingway was an overly verbose blowhard.

Huh? Hemingway was the opposite of verbose. His trademark was writing short, clear and to the point. Not easy to do.

My go to reads are Hemingway & Fitzgerlad. Two opposites who loved and hated each other.

Posted by: JoeNYC at August 21, 2018 10:44 PM (//3VH)

912 Actually, I was thinking of Machiavelli's Prince, not The Little Prince.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 21, 2018 10:44 PM (dg/6R)

913 WTF Purdue? I never lived in a dorm room. Even freshman year I had an apartment. Fucking spolied pieces of shit today.

And yes lawn...get off it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at August 21, 2018 10:48 PM (k668o)

914 I like the book idea

Posted by: Isolden at August 21, 2018 10:48 PM (z0De4)

915 All time fav sci fi is Battlefield Earth.

Wasn't that something the Scientologists put together in an attempt to prove that ElRon was still alive?

Posted by: Fox2! at August 21, 2018 10:49 PM (brIR5)

916 Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 10:39 PM

Thanks, was looking at used books.
Local library has a copy. I'm going to try that first.


I'm reluctant to spend real money on speculation that attempts to explain something we can't possibly know anything about.

Entertainment is one thing, speculatin' is something else.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 10:50 PM (I9Sw7)

917 Jonathan Livingston Seagull

"Lonely sky, lonely sky, lonely looking sky..."

Posted by: Neil from the Block at August 21, 2018 10:50 PM (brIR5)

918 On Sense and Reference - Gottlob Frege

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 10:52 PM (vDqXW)

919 917 Jonathan Livingston Seagull

"Lonely sky, lonely sky, lonely looking sky..."
Posted by: Neil from the Block at August 21, 2018 10:50 PM (brIR5)


Here's a song that may help you to deal with those feelings.

"Come with me...Lesbian Seagull..."

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 10:53 PM (Vb4BV)

920 890 A Brief History of Time, by Stephen Hawking

Posted by: Honu at August 21, 2018 10:19 PM

I am reluctant to spend the ten bucks. I've already broke the bank. Need encouragement. Tell me it's worth it.
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr.

It was a joke.
In more ways than one.

Posted by: Honu at August 21, 2018 10:55 PM (bDvNV)

921 How about some of that filthy Mark Twain? Or is that too filthy, racist, atheist and filthy? How about filthy Lovecraft? Filthy, racist, athiest and filthy.
Fiction is so damn political. How far back does one have to go to minimize the philosophical sting of being otherly?

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2018 10:57 PM (CdLX2)

922 Honu at August 21, 2018 10:55 PM

Thanks for that, he giggled.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 11:01 PM (I9Sw7)

923 he chuckled, is what I meant to say, chuckled, not giggled.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 11:02 PM (I9Sw7)

924 How about Thomas McGuane? Too provincial?

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2018 11:03 PM (CdLX2)

925 Can't go wrong with Nero Wolfe.

Or, if you're in a mood for comics, hunt up an Uncle Scrooge story by Don Rosa. For nostalgia, Carl Barks.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 21, 2018 11:08 PM (eArhL)

926 Armor by John steakly? Many morons have suggested it. I am about two chapters in.

Posted by: enzo at August 21, 2018 11:11 PM (AY0BI)

927 One (two) more:

Any Dortmunder novel by Donald Westlake.

Any Parker thriller by Richard Stark (a/k/a Westlake).

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 21, 2018 11:15 PM (eArhL)

928 Try a River Runs Through It by Norman Maclean. If you have seen the movie then reading the book will almost be the same in story, but also in tone. A great relaxing novel of about 100 pages that will make you appreciate great writing.

Posted by: RGallegos at August 21, 2018 11:19 PM (59GQk)

929 Dostoyevsky's "Notes from Underground", classic, pretty short, really cuts to the foibles of human nature (meaning well, but not then deciding not to do it, etc.)

Posted by: Katja at August 21, 2018 11:27 PM (5ltQc)

930 Wow, nice list.

I'll toss in 'The Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans' by Plutarch. Not as easy read for me anymore but worthwhile.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 11:33 PM (xJa6I)

931 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress might tread a little close to the political for Ace but is an absolute classic. I've always loved Rolling Stones, the book (The band is pretty good too). Of course I'm biased having nearly everything written by Heinlein.

I haven't read a ton of his stuff but Sprague de Camp is fun in what I have read. The Reluctant King trilogyThe Fallible FiendLest Darkness Fall

/delurk

Posted by: Jasonius at August 21, 2018 11:35 PM (p+9dx)

932 Ugh, newbie formatting fail.

Posted by: Jasonius at August 21, 2018 11:36 PM (p+9dx)

933 How about Clark's "Rendezvous with Rama" or Pohl's "Gateway"?

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at August 21, 2018 11:38 PM (TdCQk)

934 The cold equations - too short maybe

Posted by: RareCommenter at August 21, 2018 11:39 PM (PDfyY)

935 Both Hornblower and Aubrey/Maturin series are very worthwhile.

Posted by: bigjack at August 21, 2018 11:49 PM (eD3Jy)

936 Book Suggestion: Shane

(by Jack Schaefer) Short, classic western (about 170 pages large print). From dust jacket: "This classic Western is a profoundly moving story of the influence of a singular character on one boy's life." Just picked it up and it looks like a good read and would fit your criteria fairly well.

Posted by: PrairieGirl at August 22, 2018 12:14 AM (2R05O)

937 I would reread Heinlein's "...Moon." TANSTAAFL! =)
And YAY! Another Nero Wolfe fan!! 8-) Favourites, Jasonius? (Mine are probably "Too Many Cooks" and "In the Best Families".)

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 22, 2018 12:18 AM (Gim9y)

938 A River Runs Through It - by Norman MacLean - has been suggested several times in previous comments.

That is "next up" in my reading list. I just finished his book Young Men and Fire and it was very good. A sad story - but excellent writing and research. Definitely made me want to search out his other book. I'll look forward to seeing what you select. Thanks for this site by the way!

Posted by: PrairieGirl at August 22, 2018 12:23 AM (2R05O)

939 Captains Courageous
By Rudyard Kipling

Short and sweet

Posted by: Runner218 at August 22, 2018 12:51 AM (TXVAt)

940
I'll toss in 'The Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans' by Plutarch. Not as easy read for me anymore but worthwhile.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 11:33 PM (xJa6I)

---------

Plutarch knew his shit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2018 12:53 AM (uSlc8)

941 I recommend a forgotten American childrens' classic, the Freddy the Pig series written by Walter R. Brooks. Every story is a gem and all were illustrated in pen and ink by Kurt Weise.

Posted by: Kaner at August 22, 2018 01:03 AM (rR7m4)

942 the screwtape letters by chesterton
Posted by: vivi at August 21, 2018 10:38 PM (11H2y)

C.S. Lewis.

Posted by: Gem at August 22, 2018 01:04 AM (XoAz8)

943 Okay, I missed the whole thread and it is too late to read it. So, I ask only a few things about a book to read...or really just suggestions.

1. Not political.
2. Not men vs. women OR women suck.

3. Not too heavy or deep, bcz life is too much that right now. No one has time for that either. Well, most don't.

4. Not depressing.

Surely someone made book recommendations that fit those criteria. Of course, JMO. I could be a total outlier. Or that is not the idea you had at all. In that case, ignore this whole post!

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 22, 2018 03:32 AM (Nt/TS)

944 Ethan Frome - Edith Wharton, 1911.

Short but brutal glimpse into human nature.

Posted by: H Hawke at August 22, 2018 08:07 AM (rLAS6)

945 I'm currently reading The Innocents Abroad by Mark Twain. It's wonderful and funny, in fact I can't recall ever reading a book that makes me laugh so much. When reading this book it occurs to me that so many things haven't changed since it was written in 1869.

Posted by: Tina at August 22, 2018 08:50 AM (C2ntj)

946 The Old Man and the Sea

Posted by: Ian Jansing at August 22, 2018 09:27 AM (5M8QO)

947 Try The High Crusade by Poul Anderson.

Posted by: micheal9 at August 22, 2018 10:24 AM (XyYrZ)

948 Try Neil Gaiman's 'Startdust'.

Or, as @micheal9 said, 'The High Crusade' by Poul Anderson.

Or 'Hoka!' by Poul Anderson & Gordon Dickson.

Or any of the Fafhrd & the Gray Mouser collections from Fritz Leiber.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 22, 2018 12:30 PM (IxDhF)

949 Also, you might look at 'Roadmarks' or 'Lord of Light' by Roger Zelazny.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 22, 2018 12:31 PM (IxDhF)

950 How about a sci-fi classic like Martian Chronicles or Stranger in a Strange Land? Keith Laumer has some good ones, too.

Posted by: BJ54 at August 22, 2018 02:39 PM (zCasZ)

951 90 Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH

Depends on whether you're talking Machiavelli or de Saint-Exupéry.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 22, 2018 03:06 PM (IxDhF)

952 Robert Louis Stevenson's Suicide Club

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