An Observance of the Decay of Learned Restraint

A friend put up a picture of his childhood home on Twitter. It's apparently a big, nice house, so he was immediately assailed as flaunting his "privilege." A lot of freaking out and shrieking by the typical emotional incontinents.

He took it down. What a cuck.

I advised him to put it back up.

It is normal for people to have a little resentment at those who have/had more than they do/did. Everyone feels this.

Envy and jealousy are routine, even daily foibles.

What is abnormal -- or rather, has become the New, Awful Normal -- is for them to publicly shriek about it.

To, as David Niven once wryly put it, put their shortcomings on public exhibition.

We used to learn, as children, to restrain our pettier, nastier, more childlike emotional outbursts.

Our parents taught us to count to ten before blowing up in anger.

Our parents and our friends taught us that to display such base emotions as seething envy was uncool and childlike.

We wanted to grow up, we wanted to be seen as grown up, and so we tried to act like grown-ups. So we learned, either because of a parent's soft (but stinging) chiding, or a friend's rather less gentle insulting us as a spaz or baby, to restrain exhibitions of such childish butthurts.

We also learned -- or were taught, sometimes with some real social cruelty or an actual beat-down -- that if we had a problem, we should sort it out ourselves or just find a way to work around it, instead of running to the nearest authority figure to squeal on our playmates.

On that last point, men especially were taught to ask themselves, "Am I acting like a man here, or a whiny child in constant need of his Mommy's interventions?"

I'm sure women similarly asked themselves about their own behavior, probably thinking more in terms of propriety and maturity than about masculinity, but the effect was the same.

The rule used to be, "If you lose your shit, you've lost the game."

Now it's the exact opposite: "If you lose your shit and throw a tantrum, you win. Always. Because obviously the person who takes offense and flies into rage over nothing must have moral superiority over people who are calm and rational."

The old rules are gone now, thanks to the juvenilizing effect of social media -- where all 55 year old men pretend to be 13 year old girls. And not just for some perverted sexual goal, but because acting like a 13 year old mean girl is now just sort of how 55 year old men, who should know a damn lot better, have decided it's appropriate to present themselves.

It's also due, of course, to relentless conditioning bu the left that there is no such thing as an immature emotional outburst that should be restrained, or a minor psychic boo-boo that should be ignored and toughed out.

The left has taught society that internal emotional restraint is not to be valorized any longer; not to be treated as a personal characteristic to be valued and further trained.

The left teaches exactly the opposite -- that to restrain one's pettier, immediate emotional outbursts is to counterfeit one's True Self, a true self which is apparently a 10 year old with developmental disorders, and that what everyone must do to be #Woke is not merely permit oneself to descend into hysterics but to actively seek out reasons to descend into hysterics as frequently and as derangedly as possible.

This is all just to repeat the central insight of this still-bracing piece from Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff, The Coddling of the American Mind. In this article -- sorry that I've repeated its premise so many times -- Lukianoff discusses a previous phobia he had, and how he went through the process of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to no longer be phobic about it. Basically, CBT taught him to deliberately expose him to small doses of the thing he feared and keep telling himself There's nothing to fear here, get over it until his sensitivity to that trigger went away.

Lukianoff realized that what is going on on college campuses now -- and I would say, in society generally -- is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, but one pointed in the precise opposite direction. Rather than teaching people to not sweat minor things that might "trigger" them, to desensitize them to those triggers, this malignant version of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy teaches people to panic, throw conniptions, fly into hysterics, and descend into lower-animal rage over minor things.

Rather than training people to de-sensitize them to petty bothers, this malignant version of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy trains them to be hyper-sensitive to trivial things.

It's not merely that we are no longer valorizing -- promoting; holding up as an ideal to aspire to -- the age-old and well-proven ethic of emotional restraint and mastery of self.

We're now actively valorizing, promoting, and inculcating the exact opposite -- emotional promiscuity and performative hysteria.

And just a point here: Whenever I'm with people and we talk about such things, the word "Millennials" comes up, and people talk about how these Millennials haven't learned to be tough and restrained as we did growing up.

And there's a point there, sure, but I always want to say: Yeah, but the 55-year-old drama addicts are doing this same bullshit and they are plainly not Millennials, though they seem to like pretending to be on Twitter.

So yeah, knock the Millennials for having grown up, sadly, in an environment that did not valorize emotional forbearance but rather actively taught them emotional incontinence.

But do note: That was inflicted on them.

What about the 55-year-old drama queens who are trying to pass themselves off as Young People by acting the same way?

They were in fact taught by their parents, their same-age cohort, the people valorized in the media as role models that emotional reserve was cool, mature, and (for the menfolk) a foundational virtue of masculinity -- and yet they've abandoned all that.

They did learn these things at a younger (much younger -- much, much younger) age.

But they have chosen to unlearn them, apparently just to seem With-It with the Twitter Kidz, and maybe for the thrill of Feeling Young Again -- at least, while pretending to be a tween on Twitter.

Knock the Millennials to your heart's content, but who's really the group more worthy of mockery and scorn here? The young and irresponsible, or the old and irresponsible?

I say it's the older people who should be setting an example of how adults act but have decided to try to out-teenage the teenagers to get a few more retweets.

Anyway, I hope my friend puts the picture of his childhood home back up. It will be a bit of useful Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for the decrepit, aging infants most in need of such an astringent. It may lead them back down the path of wisdom they long ago departed, and on the path of re-learning that just because something causes them a boo-boo or butt-rash there's no reason to crying to mommy and daddy about it or to shriek hysterically for one's fwiendz to come help yell at the Bad Man.

As the Fool said to Lear: "Thou should have gotten wise before thou got old." It's past time for America's Oldest Teenagers to try to become wise as they once were in their early forties, before they began Lovin' the Twitter and decided it was good and right to have a second childhood a decade or two ahead of schedule.

To be young, physically, is a gift. To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:37 PM

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Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2018 04:39 PM (OLCnA)

2 Did he put the pic of his home up with the caption:

Suck on this losers !!!!

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 04:39 PM (khWYc)

3 Like it matters!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 09, 2018 04:39 PM (9BLnV)

4 So childhood home shaming is a thing now?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 04:40 PM (ptqGC)

5 I'll fetch the others. They're still mocking the Obama Biden mystery novel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 04:41 PM (ptqGC)

6 To be young, physically, is a gift. To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad.

Pull muh finger.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2018 04:42 PM (REkPr)

7 You take that back!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 09, 2018 04:42 PM (wldC6)

8 The left's ultimate success is the absolute corruption of the human soul. Time to walk away and grow up.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 09, 2018 04:42 PM (5mrLG)

9 Jonathan Haidt is a good writer. I don't know of the other fellow, but it sounds like a good book.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (AllCR)

10 Yes, restraint is no longer effectively taught to the young. Even some of the not-so-young have cast it off as somehow "not the happenin' thing." But what that means is that it falls to the rest of us -- we who still value the courtesies and the traditionally understood social virtues -- to teach it to them:
1) By example;
2) By enforcement.

If persons who lack self-restraint are ostracized from all venues they value except for those entirely populated by others who lack self-restraint, we just might see some improvement. But there's effort involved -- a bit more than is required just to lament about the decline of standards.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (FrZyy)

11 is good post

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (CE6iV)

12 I know I am always jumping in with quotes, but something Dennis Prager wrote in Still the Best Hope really struck me as important:

"One can revere youth or wisdom, but not both."

Or, as Donna Barr put it, "If you can't trust Hitler Youth, who can you trust?"

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (2lndx)

13 >>>9 Jonathan Haidt is a good writer. I don't know of the other fellow, but it sounds like a good book.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

It's an article. You can read it for free in about 30 minutes.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (PA9oZ)

14 You had a house?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (lliHD)

15 And very good post, Ace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (AllCR)

16 I loved going to my rich friends homes. Minimal class envy was one of the things that made America exceptional because it really was true that anybody can make it big in America.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (khWYc)

17 Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:43 PM (PA9oZ)

O.k. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 04:44 PM (AllCR)

18 A lot of people do not act like adults anymore. They dress, act and think like idiot children.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2018 04:44 PM (OLCnA)

19 The internet removes the fear of embarrassment.

Twitter is just a place to silence your inner voice.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2018 04:44 PM (1ISKN)

20 Like my 87 year old mother saying whatever she wants, pouting and getting teary or vicious when she doesn't get exactly what she wants, being incredibly defensive when called on it. Because as she says, "I'm 87 and I don't give a shit anymore."
I do not plan to emulate her.

Posted by: someone random at August 09, 2018 04:45 PM (6FY0P)

21 Yes, we're descending into Rule by Emotional Hand Grenade.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 04:45 PM (oVJmc)

22 I was the oldest kid I ever knew. I was like 50 when I was 5. I don't recommend it.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 09, 2018 04:45 PM (RuIsu)

23 Well said, Ace.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 04:46 PM (MX7xj)

24 Like my 87 year old mother saying whatever she wants, pouting and
getting teary or vicious when she doesn't get exactly what she wants,
being incredibly defensive when called on it. Because as she says, "I'm
87 and I don't give a shit anymore."

I do not plan to emulate her.

Sounds just like my mother-in-law, right down to the age.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 04:46 PM (oVJmc)

25 The trick is to hit 'em in the face with a U-lock and run away.

Posted by: Berkeley ex-professor at August 09, 2018 04:46 PM (HgMAr)

26 >> I was the oldest kid I ever knew. I was like 50 when I was 5. I don't recommend it.

I have always hated children.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 04:46 PM (lliHD)

27 He didn't need to take the first one down. Just follow it with a picture of a refrigerator box labeled My current house.

Posted by: X-ray at August 09, 2018 04:46 PM (kG2lj)

28 Like my 87 year old mother saying whatever she wants, pouting and
getting teary or vicious when she doesn't get exactly what she wants,
being incredibly defensive when called on it. Because as she says, "I'm
87 and I don't give a shit anymore."

I do not plan to emulate her.

Sounds just like my mother-in-law, right down to the age.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 04:46 PM (oVJmc)

Mr. Peebles, my condolences. I live 800 miles from my mother, and that's almost far enough.

Posted by: someone random at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (6FY0P)

29 It is normal for people to have a little resentment at those who have/had more than they do/did. Everyone feels this.

Gotta say that I have as many character defects as anybody else but this has never been one of 'em.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (Tyii7)

30 Good piece - thanks, ace.

I'm not on Facebook or Twitter or anything like that, but I see enough of this stuff on NextDoor, for Pete's sake. It's like these people have no filters. But as you say, we all grew up learning to use our filters, so it's more like they've willfully thrown theirs away. Why? How can they not see what spoiled brats they look like?

I'll be over on the chaise longue next to Miss Manners if anyone is looking for me.

Posted by: bluebell at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (JJZzu)

31 It's even more than that. I chided, (ok got up in the grille of,)
a couple of teens who were throwing the F bomb all over the place in an
atmosphere full of small children. The teens were shocked into silence
because someone dared call them on their behavior.
Parents later came up to me and were grateful, saying that they just take it
because they're afraid to confront people in these situations.It's not enough to do it yourself, we have to be willing to call it out when we see it.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (vCA4F)

32 >>>I have always hated children.
Posted by: garrett

The sexy ones are all right.

Posted by: James Gunn at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (PA9oZ)

33 Millennials though aren't "young" anymore. At least they're old enough to know better and they can't use that as an excuse any longer. Isn't the average age in the 30's?

But they will never grow up, I know every generation hates the one after them, but for millennials, it's well deserved.

I blame social media, it has given a huge platform to people that don't deserve it. These people have found other people that also want to stomp their feet and throw tantrums and usually the squeaky wheel gets oil.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (UfkIY)

34 Several years ago, our Scout troop hosted about a dozen Russian boy and girl Scouts. We were told by a trip leader not to bring the kids to our homes because they were "too nice" and might intimidate them.

My husband made it a point to bring them all over to our house one day for a visit. His reasoning was it would show them a reward of capitalism and hard work.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (ptqGC)

35
The old rules are gone now, thanks to the juvenilizing effect of social media -- where all 55 year old men pretend to be 13 year old girls.

But Jonah Goldberg is only 49.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 04:48 PM (veoSD)

36 When I was in high school (1983-87) when you had an argument with someone, you had a fistfight outside. Now, these "men" settle things by shooting people. The culture of America is quickly dying, and when my 17-year old sees it, it's dying very fast.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 09, 2018 04:48 PM (kFnmp)

37 acting like a 13 year old mean girl is now just sort of how 55 year old
men, who should know a damn lot better, have decided it's appropriate to
present themselves.

m-hm, m-hm, tell me, how does that make you feel?

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 04:48 PM (T6t7i)

38
I gotta house. Big muthafucka. Not gonna left the SJW types take a peek at it. Or at the hundreds of acres in my backyard.

Anything and everything triggers these pricks.

They're not gonna want to hear my story, my wifes story, of the days, weeks, years, weekends, late nights, no vacations, doing without, cold winters, hot summers it took. 'Adjustable mortgages' that 'adjusted' into a steroid infused fist around my ball-sack.

You don't want to 'trigger' the weak. They can't handle the truth. They live in fantasy land.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (LOgQ4)

39 Spot on Ace. I have been thinking about this literally for years now. I remember having a SIL that was going through therapy and the therapist told her that she should say whatever is on her mind to whoever she wants. This obviously resulted in many arguments and hurt feelings but I kept hearing this over and over from other relatives and even friends. People were being told.. say what you want.. it's your right. It's how you "heal". To which I say. BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (dUJdY)

40 This entire post also shines the light of the "no filter" people. Just because you have a thought doesn't mean you should emote it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (kFnmp)

41 when live in a spoiled, decadent society when so many adults have the time and energy to act like bratty children

Posted by: brak at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (VckGX)

42 This is just residue of the "let it all hang out" 1960s, the era that birthed the notion that any kind of restraint was inauthentic and unhealthy.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (PFxF+)

43 First he came for the 55 year olds....

Posted by: eleven at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (NLLmE)

44 Gotta say that I have as many character defects as anybody else but this has never been one of 'em.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (Tyii7)

Also have never felt envy.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (khWYc)

45 Nice post Ace; good reminder what we are dealing with on the daily basis - aging drama queens with no self restraint. Twitter is their hang out it seems.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (bUjCl)

46 So childhood home shaming is a thing now?

That's nothing new. People have hated anyone wealthier than them for ages.

I've actually seen idiots on twitter talking about how it's privilege to have had two loving parents. That seems new to me.

Previously, someone with two loving parents were called fortunate or lucky, but in lefty cant those people are now someone to ignore/exclude because they had an unearned advantage.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 09, 2018 04:49 PM (9qZ3S)

47 [ placeholder ]
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Posted by: Hands at August 09, 2018 04:50 PM (EzdLW)

48 44. I envy your lack of envy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 09, 2018 04:50 PM (fA1SL)

49 This. One of your best.

Posted by: Larry Geiger at August 09, 2018 04:50 PM (nX644)

50 I like this very much. There should be a code...or sumpin...

Posted by: Sumdumchief at August 09, 2018 04:50 PM (KYQQw)

51 Putting up a photo of one's childhood home because it reminds one of good times is NOT at all flaunting the home b cause it may have been expensive.

So I guess the new rule is that unless you came from a poor neighborhood, don't post photos of your childhood home.

Another new rule is to be jealous and envious of people richer than you, rather seeing such a. Photo as motivation for striving yourself to achieve that status.

Posted by: mercenary13 at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (OftAJ)

52 >>> I remember having a SIL that was going through therapy and the therapist told her that she should say whatever is on her mind to whoever she wants. This obviously resulted in many arguments and hurt feelings but I kept hearing this over and over from other relatives and even friends.

In some uncommon cases, where a person's problem is being TOO inhibited and letting anger and resenment well up inside instead of expressing one's displeasure, I can see that being useful advice, up to a point.

But obviously undue emotional inhibition is not a problem that many americans are currently suffering from.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (PA9oZ)

53 Spot-on analysis, Ace!

Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (44PTs)

54 Adults should learn to swallow their anger and their pride. That's why we have booze.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (T6t7i)

55 i had two childhood homes.
one city, one country.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (M5P9t)

56 I envy your lack of envy.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 09, 2018 04:50 PM (fA1SL)

Heh. Reminds me of the Oscar Wilde quip

The only thing I can't resist is temptation.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (khWYc)

57 I'm not on Twitter any longer, but I am still very active on Facebook.

I run a group dedicated to running that currently has 34,000 members. I have my share of hysterics that show up on occasion, but I've crafted the rules of the group carefully to encourage adult behavior and to punish acting like a child. Critically, I allow all opinions to be stated and do not allow anyone to delete their posts or comments. Deletion is grounds for removal. If you say something stupid, you have to live with it and defend yourself. But you can't descend to name calling either.

It's worked pretty well for the last 3 years. The interesting thing is that every so often I need to comment and provide adult insight regarding some flare up of drama. 90%+ of the group is very appreciative of calmly delivered rational commentary.

So my experience is that the shrieking hysterics on social media is definitely there, but the majority of the people who are on Facebook really hate it, and yearn for rationality.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (PHotS)

58 Posted by: bluebell at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (JJZzu)

You don't sound like Miss Manners, :^) and I have heard this complaint about "The next Door" site from others. I always think I should join it-for the sake of the church-I mean, but I can't bear the thought of that sort of puerile behavior.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (AllCR)

59 An argument for not using Facebook, Youtube etc. in the first place.

But of course now the mob is going to try to fix it so that no internet provider or hosting service will have him.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 09, 2018 04:37 PM (bBpRB)

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Very good post, Ace.

Whenever I goof on snowflake behavior of Millenials in front of my daughter, she is quick to remind me who it was that brought them up and taught them to be that way.

Fair enough, especially as she always qualifies with "I don't mean you or Mom."

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (I16G8)

60 Vote for me and everybody will have a nice house.

Posted by: Alexandria Corpuscle at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (HgMAr)

61 Millennials though aren't "young" anymore. At least they're old enough to know better and they can't use that as an excuse any longer. Isn't the average age in the 30's?

The oldest millennials are turning 40 in three or four years.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 09, 2018 04:52 PM (9qZ3S)

62 I came. DM me on the IG. Right. Now.

Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 04:52 PM (tHmVm)

63 Thanks Ace. I've decided to put my dick pics back online!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner Getting the Wrong Message at August 09, 2018 04:52 PM (A3b6q)

64 As with everything, the left has corrupted psychology as well. It's very healthy and wise to be vulnerable and to share your fears, anxieties and deep emotions when you are sharing those things with family and loved ones in the name of being honest and vulnerable with those closest to you.

There is nothing healthy nor wise about screaming out your fears and anxieties to everyone who will listen then expecting them to care.

Posted by: DigDug1972 at August 09, 2018 04:52 PM (QJom8)

65 It's even more than that. I chided, (ok got up in the grille of,)
a couple of teens who were throwing the F bomb all over the place in an
atmosphere full of small children. The teens were shocked into silence
because someone dared call them on their behavior.
Parents later came up to me and were grateful, saying that they just take it
because
they're afraid to confront people in these situations.It's not enough
to do it yourself, we have to be willing to call it out when we see it.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (vCA4F)

This is firmly encouraged in the military, especially overseas. The locals know what the f-bomb is and know you're disrespecting them. And if you swear in front of someone's kids, there's a decent chance you'll get talked to by that person or your command. Sailors may turn the air blue, but it's not allowed in front of children.

Posted by: pookysgirl at August 09, 2018 04:52 PM (XKZwp)

66 Name a comic book you would totally buy if they published it.

I'll go first: Ninja Dingo

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at August 09, 2018 04:53 PM (DuAZ5)

67 Now it's the exact opposite: "If you lose your shit and throw a tantrum, you win. Always. Because obviously the person who takes offense and flies into rage over nothing must have moral superiority over people who are calm and rational."

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 04:53 PM (NWiLs)

68
>>> I remember having a SIL that was going through therapy and
the therapist told her that she should say whatever is on her mind to
whoever she wants. This obviously resulted in many arguments and hurt
feelings but I kept hearing this over and over from other relatives and
even friends.

My SIL the "life coach" taught her now 30-something princess this. And we've suffered this idiocy at every family gathering since she was a toddler.

She's working at UC Berkeley now as a "student mediator."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 04:53 PM (ptqGC)

69 Part of the thing with the house is a trend I've noticed coming on for a long time: that having something to aspire to is wrong. If you cannot have it now, if it requires planning, somehow, somewhere, an unfairness has been perpetrated against you.

That house your friend posted was probably not the first house his parents owned, or lived in on their own. They decided, most likely, that having a house like that was important to them, and they worked up to it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 09, 2018 04:53 PM (2lndx)

70 What about the 55-year-old drama queens who are trying to pass themselves off as Young People by acting the same way?

They were in fact taught by their parents, their same-age cohort, the people valorized in the media as role models that emotional reserve was cool, mature, and (for the menfolk) a foundational virtue of masculinity -- and yet they've abandoned all that.

They did learn these things at a younger (much younger -- much, much younger) age.

Well, Generation X is now in the 40s and 50s and The Boomers, where this all arguably started, are in their 60s and 70s, so maybe this goes further back.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 04:53 PM (ujg0T)

71 >>>40 This entire post also shines the light of the "no filter" people. Just because you have a thought doesn't mean you should emote it.

and to get to the other thing that annoys me: Just because you thought of a Stock Twitter "Joke" to say, robotically repeating a stupid catchphrase that has been used sixty six billion times already, doesn't mean you should say it.

There's a thing these Twitter Wits should look into. It's called a "Straight Declarative Sentence."

A straight declarative sentence seems almost subversive in a world in which everyone speaks only in unfunny snark and millionth-hand "wit."

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:54 PM (PA9oZ)

72 AND... how people do you know that are seeing a therapist? I was shocked more than half my in-laws still see a therapist after more than 20 years.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 04:54 PM (dUJdY)

73 >>As the Fool said to Lear: "Thou should have gotten wise before thou got old."

I think the actual quote was : "Thou art too old to Rock and Roll but too young to die."

And it was Jethro Tull, not King Lear.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 04:54 PM (lliHD)

74 Spot on ace, as usual.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 04:54 PM (6qLDQ)

75 You don't sound like Miss Manners, :^) and I have heard this complaint about "The next Door" site from others. I always think I should join it-for the sake of the church-I mean, but I can't bear the thought of that sort of puerile behavior.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (AllCR)
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Don't let that stop you from joining, Fen - most of it is just fine. People post things that they are selling, or ask for recommendations for getting the roof fixed, or announce that there will be a fund-raiser for military families at this restaurant on that date, etc. There's a lot of good there.

It's when people start to treat it like Facebook that it gets ridiculous, especially because, unlike Facebook where you theoretically know your "friends," you probably don't know most of these "neighbors" because the local site encompasses many actual neighborhoods.

I skip most of it. But there have been a few gems on there.

Posted by: bluebell at August 09, 2018 04:54 PM (JJZzu)

76 I will not be embarrassed for being rich, just like the people at the grocery store are not embarrassed to be using a welfare SNAP card. They are quite proud, as am I of being brought up in a wealthy home.

Posted by: Hillary4Prison at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (3aBcq)

77 >>>63 Thanks Ace. I've decided to put my dick pics back online!
Posted by: Anthony Weiner Getting the Wrong Message

Well, wait, but--!!

eh....

You do you, Carlos. You do you.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (PA9oZ)

78 33 Millennials though aren't "young" anymore. At least they're old enough to know better and they can't use that as an excuse any longer. Isn't the average age in the 30's?

But they will never grow up, I know every generation hates the one after them, but for millennials, it's well deserved.

I blame social media, it has given a huge platform to people that don't deserve it. These people have found other people that also want to stomp their feet and throw tantrums and usually the squeaky wheel gets oil.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (UfkIY)

There's plenty of blame to go around for everyone.

We're not in trouble because of just one generation.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (4ErVI)

79 My sister and I talk of the small house we grew up in during the fifties and sixties. We always wonder how the heck we did it with just one bathroom. We've figured that since Mom and Dad both grew up on farms during the depression, both served in WWII, they thought they were doing good to have a crapper IN the house

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (8ikIW)

80 To be fair, you are damned if you do and damned of you don't in the current year as a man. Certain processionals in the CBT and psychology business are growing worried about our society.

Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (tHmVm)

81
This kind of explains a lot about Romney in 2012. He let the commies walk all over him for his wealth (car elevators!).

I couldn't help thinking that he should have doubled-down. "Damn right I'm rich. I've got gold-plated trash bags for my platinum-plated trash cans. But unlike those commie cocksuckers in the Donk party, I want YOU to end up just as rich as I am by getting the government to butt the fuck out of your business so you can work and be successful."

That's kind of the vibe I get from the Magic Scalp Weasel. Except without all the "fuck"s and "cocksuckers".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (veoSD)

82 >>Thanks Ace. I've decided to put my dick pics back online!

Penis Portraiture, please.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (lliHD)

83 When I was in high school (1983-87) when you had an argument with someone, you had a fistfight outside. Now, these "men" settle things by shooting people.

Violent crime in the US peaked in the early 90s and has been on a steady decline since. We're actually lower now than we were in 83-87.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (9qZ3S)

84 >>>and to get to the other thing that annoys me: Just because you thought of a Stock Twitter "Joke" to say, robotically repeating a stupid catchphrase that has been used sixty six billion times already, doesn't mean you should say it.

That's what she said! Wait, what?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (gA69l)

85 >>>I think the actual quote was : "Thou art too old to Rock and Roll but too young to die."

And it was Jethro Tull, not King Lear.

...

ah right. I don't know decades-old references the way Jonah Goldberg does. Apologies.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:56 PM (PA9oZ)

86 There a beam of stupid rays shining down on Erf from an an orbiting invisible UFO.

Posted by: YouBanned at August 09, 2018 04:56 PM (3SidC)

87 >>>Violent crime in the US peaked in the early 90s and has been on a steady decline since. We're actually lower now than we were in 83-87.

I can only go by my police division in Philly. Leads the city in shootings and homicides. Usually because someone looked at someone the wrong way.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 09, 2018 04:56 PM (gA69l)

88 #83. Chicago says otherwise

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2018 04:56 PM (OLCnA)

89 The left teaches exactly the opposite -- that to restrain one's pettier, immediate emotional outbursts is to counterfeit one's True Self, a true self which is apparently a 10 year old with developmental disorders

Also, feminism. But is subset of the left.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 04:56 PM (NWiLs)

90
That's nothing new. People have hated anyone wealthier than them for ages.

I remember being in a rich persons house. Holy shit, it was fantastic. Dude was part owner of a/the sporting complex in Philly.

It didn't piss me off. I ended up with almost the same house. Took a few years, same as the rich person.

Some people will get pissed off and bitch and moan, some will get motivated. I chose #2.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (LOgQ4)

91 77 >>>63 Thanks Ace. I've decided to put my dick pics back online!
Posted by: Anthony Weiner Getting the Wrong Message

Well, wait, but--!!

eh....

You do you, Carlos. You do you.
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (PA9oZ)

---

lol

Isn't he locked up?

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (6qLDQ)

92 "To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad."

This explains the majority of hollywood and congress.

Posted by: A. Cooper at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (xqfqx)

93 59 Was a big C&P fail.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (I16G8)

94 Great Piece, btw.

Also, nice Post.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (lliHD)

95 the process of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to no longer be phobic about it. Basically, CBT taught him to deliberately expose him to small doses of the thing he feared and keep telling himself There's nothing to fear here, get over it until his sensitivity to that trigger went away.

I offer up youtube - specifically dash cam video of car wrecks. At first, they were humorous. Then worrisome, then downright terrifying. Especially when you find yourself driving in traffic and realize the scene developing in front of you is exactly the scene you just saw on youtube last night where the guy makes a left turn in front of you. That is when you realize that the 'rules of the road' only work when everyone follows those rules.

Now I'm too scared to drive into town for groceries.

The same thing happened to me in real life when I had a car pull out in front of me. I was on a motorcycle. For months afterward, any car on the side of the road was an imminent threat.

The book "The Mill River Recluse" by Darcie Chan is exactly what I am talking about.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H3NNWXE/

Posted by: Wilbur Woodhousen at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (XeN7w)

96 Lukianoff discusses a previous phobia he had, and how he went through the process of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to no longer be phobic about it. Basically, CBT taught him to deliberately expose him to small doses of the thing he feared and keep telling himself There's nothing to fear here, get over it until his sensitivity to that trigger went away

Alright you heard it here as the way to go. Now when can I expect my hugs from Alexthechick and Jane D'oh?

Posted by: Face-sized Spider at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (zRwJ/)

97 I think the worse thing with the newest generation is the hookup mentality. It really leads to so many other problems,

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (khWYc)

98 I couldn't help thinking that he should have doubled-down. "Damn right I'm rich. I've got gold-plated trash bags for my platinum-plated trash cans. But unlike those commie cocksuckers in the Donk party, I want YOU to end up just as rich as I am by getting the government to butt the fuck out of your business so you can work and be successful."

That's kind of the vibe I get from the Magic Scalp Weasel. Except without all the "fuck"s and "cocksuckers".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (veoSD)

For some reason I believe Trump when he says it. I don't believe Mitt.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (4ErVI)

99
Rosie O'Donnell's Broadway show tune sing along protest was very mature.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (10vO4)

100 This essay is exceeding fine, reposted on the GAB Moron Horde group.

We're shooting for 2,000 members on the GAB group, so come on over. Support the media that doesn't censor conservatives:

https://tinyurl.com/y862bgj5

Posted by: Monty James at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (28h4F)

101 "You can only have so many houses, take so many vacations."

--- crap Barack just said during a speech in S. Africa

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (ptqGC)

102 That's nothing new. People have hated anyone wealthier than them for ages.

I remember being in a rich persons house. Holy shit, it was fantastic. Dude was part owner of a/the sporting complex in Philly.

It didn't piss me off. I ended up with almost the same house. Took a few years, same as the rich person.

Some people will get pissed off and bitch and moan, some will get motivated. I chose #2.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (LOgQ4)

---

What I see?

Too. Much. Crap. To. Keep. Clean.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (6qLDQ)

103 I blame the Communists with their class warfare, it doesn't bother me a lick if someone has things I don't.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (lxZ71)

104 "where all 55 year old men pretend to be 13 year old girls."

Ace you might want to rethink painting with that broad of a brush. Some of us (62) are not like that, just sayin......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (JUOKG)

105 80 To be fair, you are damned if you do and damned of you don't in the current year as a man. Certain processionals in the CBT and psychology business are growing worried about our society.
Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (tHmVm)

True. If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or scary and abusive.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (NWiLs)

106 I've got a bo bo --

Mom: Oh you poor baby, let me take a look at it.

Dad: Suck it up, buttercup.

old and busted stereotype mode off/

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2018 04:59 PM (0ogQG)

107 >>If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or scary and abusive.

If you have feelings?

...you might be a girl.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 04:59 PM (lliHD)

108 This is very well put. I do feel somewhat sorry for Millenials and I feel very sorry indeed for Gen Z who are being trained like dogs and not educated or reared in the least. Yes, perhaps they should be stronger people but what positive reinforcement do they have for that?

I have a wicked temper, a nasty tongue, and a short fuse. All of that is to my shame. Over the last few months I have been actively trying to tell myself when I get upset "Give it an hour. Just one hour. See if you're still upset then."

I bet you can figure out how this story ends.

Now, look, I do love my grudges and the like but it is amazing when I stop and think back on the things that really upset me how it seems silly to be that upset about that matter just a few hours later.

Here is where I get all hippy dippy New Agey. It's a variant of mindfulness. I am mindful that I am upset. I allow myself to feel that and then to remember that, hey, guess what, in an hour you won't care.

Now, if in an hour I do still care, then maybe it's real and maybe it's not but in that hour I am trying not to lash out at anyone about it.

I am having intermittent success with this but I'm trying because I don't like being that person and being that person is to be looked down upon, not held up as real and authentic, man. Because, sure, that's real and authentic. And so is realizing an hour later that hey I'm kinda nuts, aren't I?

TL; DR Being an adult is stupid but being an immature brat is stupider.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 09, 2018 04:59 PM (mf5HN)

109 I heard somewhere that in a healthy society, the lower classes emulate the upper classes and in a degenerate society the upper classes emulate the lower classes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (+y/Ru)

110 Or you can do like GGordon Liddy and tie yourself to a tree during a lightning storm.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (khWYc)

111 Well done, ace. This phenomena is disheartening, to say the least.

Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (MZ8Zz)

112 OT: Manafort Trial update.

Just to give you an idea how much of a railroad job this trial is.

Taryn Rodriguez, a loan officer assistant at Citizens Bank, testified Thursday afternoon about a $5.5 million dollar loan that Paul Manafort applied for on his Union Street property. Manafort did not ultimately receive the loan from Citizens Bank.

As defense attorney Jay Nanavati was about to start questioning Rodriguez, Judge T.S. Ellis interjected by suggesting to him that he "may want to spend time on a loan that was granted."

That's right folks, they're charging him for bank fraud for loans he didn't get.

Posted by: WisRich at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (G0vdT)

113 True. If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or scary and abusive.

Posted by: Insomniac

I'm not quite sure when "damned if you do, damned if you don't" became a societal cornerstone, but it has. Time to tear the thing down and start over.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (AM1GF)

114 >>I have a wicked temper, a nasty tongue, and a short fuse

Well. That's just physics.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (lliHD)

115 Many good words.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (yQpMk)

116 god told me to skin you alive!!

Posted by: Jello Biafra at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (FTPVM)

117 You're only not envious because you haven't seen MooMoo's place yet.

Posted by: three-port helipad at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (+INtM)

118
Ace should write a piece:

The Evil of Enabling:
How We Destroyed Our Own Civilization In Less Than Three Generations

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (gJKXo)

119
and to get to the other thing that annoys me: Just because you thought of a Stock Twitter "Joke" to say, robotically repeating a stupid catchphrase that has been used sixty six billion times already, doesn't mean you should say it.

Meh, it's no Rothko.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (veoSD)

120 >>I have a wicked temper, a nasty tongue, and a short fuse

Shock.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (gA69l)

121 True. If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or scary and abusive.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (NWiL

There is a middle ground.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (khWYc)

122 Rosie O'Donnell's Broadway show tune sing along protest was very mature.

-
I liked the dancing shark and dinosaur.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, 3-D Printed Version at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (+y/Ru)

123 98 I couldn't help thinking that he should have doubled-down. "Damn right I'm rich. I've got gold-plated trash bags for my platinum-plated trash cans. But unlike those commie cocksuckers in the Donk party, I want YOU to end up just as rich as I am by getting the government to butt the fuck out of your business so you can work and be successful."

That's kind of the vibe I get from the Magic Scalp Weasel. Except without all the "fuck"s and "cocksuckers".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 04:55 PM (veoSD)

For some reason I believe Trump when he says it. I don't believe Mitt.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (4ErVI)

But that's just it. Mitt would not even say it. And he SHOULD have.

Another rule I have learned with the leftist scum is The Rule Of Anyway. You fear being smeared by them? They are only going to smear you anyway, hate you anyway, tell lies in the media about you anyway, and the left media will only repeat those lies about you anyway.

Anyway, anyway, anyway......

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (ujg0T)

124 I am having intermittent success with this but I'm trying because I don't like being that person and being that person is to be looked down upon, not held up as real and authentic, man. Because, sure, that's real and authentic. And so is realizing an hour later that hey I'm kinda nuts, aren't I?

TL; DR Being an adult is stupid but being an immature brat is stupider.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.

Look at it this way, if you're still angry an hour later, you've calmed down enough to come up with a coherent plan to avenge yourself.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (AM1GF)

125 Nice post Ace. What the hell was it about? Naps? Sounds good.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (RuIsu)

126 107 >>If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or scary and abusive.

---

Yep.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (6qLDQ)

127 I talk to my daughter about IMPULSE CONTROL. This, and what you address in your essay, gets to the heart of what it means to be conservative versus progressive.

On one side there is rational thought, logic and reason.

On the other there is emotion.

FEELZ.

One is aware of the world external to ones self. There is a reflection upon how others are affected on a grander scale by ones actions.

On the other side the self is all there is and everything else is bad or good based upon how it makes the self feel.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (A3b6q)

128 Now it's the exact opposite: "If you lose your shit and throw a tantrum, you win.
Is this a Whoopi Goldberg quote?

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (+lVUW)

129 have a wicked temper, a nasty tongue, and a short fuse

You just threw a soft ball to the Horde.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (khWYc)

130 Glass houses
Throw rocks [C_A]
17
[5:5]
Think logically
Much evil
Trust The Plan
Q

Posted by: Q at August 09, 2018 05:03 PM (r9UYA)

131 I prefer to remain silent, look knowingly, and produce a world class smirk.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:03 PM (FTPVM)

132 I prefer to rule my emotions, not let them rule me.

Most of the time, I succeed.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 05:04 PM (6qLDQ)

133 121
True. If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant
and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or
scary and abusive.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (NWiL

There is a middle ground.

Ted Kaczynski?

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:04 PM (T6t7i)

134 Alright you heard it here as the way to go. Now when can I expect my hugs from Alexthechick and Jane D'oh?

Posted by: Face-sized Spider at August 09, 2018 04:57 PM (zRwJ/)

Ain't gonna happen. I'll have Pookette squish you instead (it's one of her favorite jobs).

Posted by: pookysgirl at August 09, 2018 05:04 PM (XKZwp)

135 Just got finished reading a book about the Dust Bowl and the families that suffered through it. You wanna talk poor...awful. Makes me feel like Rockefeller.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:04 PM (MX7xj)

136

But Jonah Goldberg is only 49.....

55 is his BMI.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (oVJmc)

137 I've never met or even seen AtC, but I bet I could pick her out of a crowd immediately. I just get that feeling.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (4ErVI)

138 YOu know what ? I am gonna blame baby boomers. That's right. Them. There was always some subversive crap floating in society, but it was always tampered by family, parenting. Baby boomers killed normal family. And now we have several generations of heads full of mush.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (bUjCl)

139 106 I've got a bo bo --

Mom: ~~Oh you poor baby, let me take a look at it.~~ Shut your mouth and quit whining!

Dad: ~~Suck it up, buttercup.~~ Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about!

old and busted stereotype mode off/
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2018 04:59 PM (0ogQG)

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (NWiLs)

140 TL; DR Being an adult is stupid but being an immature brat is stupider.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 09, 2018 04:59 PM (mf5HN)

I too continue to work daily at being more mature (mid-40's).

I'm disappointed, but not shocked, that young people are not only immature, but not striving to improve (for all the reasons cited above). They've never been taught how, why or that they should.

I'm disappointed and shocked by older people who've given up and regressed (also alluded to above). They've certainly been taught better. I don't get why they've given up.

As mentioned, I've also encountered the "I'm so old I don't give a damn" attitude, but when did self-respect become such a devalued currency?

Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (44PTs)

141 Relativity and irony rule the world

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (FTPVM)

142 Ted Kaczynski?
Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:04 PM (T6t7i)

I think he expressed his feelings through the mail.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (khWYc)

143 132
I prefer to rule my emotions, not let them rule me.
Most of the time, I succeed.
Ditto. Well, except for people driving slowly in the left lane, but that doesn't count.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (T6t7i)

144 As defense attorney Jay Nanavati was about to start questioning Rodriguez, Judge T.S. Ellis interjected by suggesting to him that he "may want to spend time on a loan that was granted."

That's right folks, they're charging him for bank fraud for loans he didn't get.
Posted by: WisRich at August 09, 2018 05:00 PM (G0vdT)

-------------

As someone else said, they are trying to get him convicted by the Jury of being a rich guy with a rich guy lifestyle.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (I16G8)

145 I don't care if people have more stuff than me--a nicer house or car or whatever. Lot's of people do. And if it does bother me, I try hard not to tip my hand because to be outwardly upset at other people's good fortune makes you a LOSER.
That said, there are some people who never get tired of lording it over you--the perfect house, the hot car, the stunning girlfriend. These kind of people should be avoided.
And then there are people who DO have nice shit but they are still jealous if they come across people with more and nicer shit than them, they cry about how life isn't "fair."
These people deserve a punch in the face.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (y8Foj)

146
OT: Manafort Trial update.

Just to give you an idea how much of a railroad job this trial is.

"Taryn Rodriguez, a loan officer assistant at Citizens Bank,
testified Thursday afternoon about a $5.5 million dollar loan that Paul
Manafort applied for on his Union Street property. Manafort did not
ultimately receive the loan from Citizens Bank.

As defense attorney Jay Nanavati was about to start questioning
Rodriguez, Judge T.S. Ellis interjected by suggesting to him that he
"may want to spend time on a loan that was granted."
"

That's right folks, they're charging him for bank fraud for loans he didn't get.

Jokes aside, how is this different from the witch trials we've seen on TV and in movies when the "witnesses" swear the defendant did something trivial or mundane one day but it was somehow evidence of witchcraft.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (gJKXo)

147 The boomers raised the millennials for the most part. So maybe it's not surprising that their in an older cohort that acts like them. I'm interested to see what kind of adults the children of Gen Xers turn out to be.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (xPl2J)

148 (136) Butter Milk Index?

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (RuIsu)

149 137 I've never met or even seen AtC, but I bet I could pick her out of a crowd immediately. I just get that feeling.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (4ErVI)

If the crowd is of average height, you better hope she's got a balloon tied to her wrist.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (zRwJ/)

150 121 True. If you don't express your feelings, you're repressed and distant and uncaring. If you do express your feelings, you're either a pussy or scary and abusive.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM (NWiL

There is a middle ground.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (khWYc)

Maybe you should clue in the CBT doctors and psychologists who are worried genuinely worried about the state of men, how they are treated by society/the courts/our culture on this middle ground of which you speak. It would be a 8 figure idea that answers this paradox in which we face as a society. I'm sure the professionals would love to know as well.

Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (tHmVm)

151 I've never met or even seen AtC, but I bet I could pick her out of a crowd immediately. I just get that feeling.

You wouldn't see her in a crowd. Unless she's riding on someone's shoulders.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (oVJmc)

152 135
Just got finished reading a book about the Dust Bowl and the families
that suffered through it. You wanna talk poor...awful. Makes me feel
like Rockefeller.

They had dust? Luxury.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (T6t7i)

153 There's a Facebook page for my subdivision and Oh, My God you should see the shit that goes on there.

I literally have a list of people who I will not interact with, just from seeing the things that they say to others.

I got on there once and posted something innocuous and got attacked by a gang of shit stirrers. I couldn't believe that anyone would talk to a neighbor that way.

My wife looked at me and said, "Get off that page now. Do not engage."

Wise words. Honestly, I was ready to ask people to come over and speak that way to my face. It was incredible.

Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (MZ8Zz)

154 I have never been jealous of anyone in my life. Granted, I had no reason to be, but this is true, Morons.

Thinking. Oh, I used to want to look like Princess Caroline of Monaco. No longer.

Life is short. Why would anyone care about how big your house is? I have a big house. Bite moi.

Rage is such a waste of energy unless directed towards Dimmycrats or the Clintons and Soros and Obamas. Then my rage meter tweeks a bit in 2018, but nothing like the old daze during the Error of Obarky.

President Trump has done many things, one of the best is soothing my vast conservative irritation at the buffoonery of the radical left. Bless their shrunken hearts, they caught the rage virus and it has led to brain swelling and herniation...example: Pelousi and her stuttering and grimacing quacking idiocy.

I have tried and cannot follow her train of thought. Her speechifying goes like this: "We..stutter, mumble, grimace grin (soon drool bucket attached to statement necklace), cannot support cutting taxes in the billions er millions er trillions. Looks at notes. Warbles out a few other meaningless words. Claps for herself and staggers off stage.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (J5mzk)

155 I only hate rich people who got there through scummy means.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (NWiLs)

156

141 Relativity and irony rule the world
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth

I wouldn't say what you're seeing is "irony." Oh, sure, technically it is, but it's so fucking brain-dead and automatic and robotic and stupid that it scarcely deserves the name.

Irony can be funny and can point to a truth in an interesting way, but what these people are doing is largely just saying the Opposite of what they mean and calling themselves clever for doing so.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (PA9oZ)

157 Like startin out Baptist and endin up all Charismatic. Nothing you can do but go out for pie.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (lwiT4)

158 ace just FYI one of your favorites - Tom Nichols - apparently got a promotion at the Naval War College. Just thought you should know.

Read something about the new status being related to outstanding scholarship. OK. Guess that would not be anything to do with his comical and idiotic obsession with "experts" and "expertise". Though it's hard to imagine someone like him with much real scholarship - however Max Boot offers a cautionary tale, as he had some real work behind him in his field, but has utterly beclowned himself stepping one inch outside it .....

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (QDnY+)

159 I am gonna blame baby boomers.

Hmm, where's my shocked face for a Thursday? It was here somewhere just a minute ago...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (Tyii7)

160 >>>They had dust? Luxury.
Posted by: pep

the Dust BOWL? Oh, how I used to dream of one day owning a bowl, and some dust to put in it.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (PA9oZ)

161 Actually, I believe the culprit is the credit boom. It has short circuited natural selection in the short term and bred an army of socialist pupae. The globalist agenda is most certainly behind it all.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (FTPVM)

162 There is a middle ground.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:01 PM (khWYc)

And that is?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (NWiLs)

163 Whatever happened to the "strong silent type" like Gary Cooper?

You know, guys who took their lumps and kept their mouths shut. Guys who knew that rat motherfuckers got their brains blown all over the lasagna.

Posted by: Tony Soprano at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (0Ntuf)

164 >>>The left teaches exactly the opposite -- that to restrain one's pettier, immediate emotional outbursts is to counterfeit one's True Self

They're also thinking "All that evil needs to triumph is for good people to do nothing" so they have a "duty" to combat "evil". Like someone saying they thought the last few Star Wars movies sucked.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (/qEW2)

165 What I see?

Too. Much. Crap. To. Keep. Clean.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 04:58 PM

Yeah, true. Spider webs? Yup, we got 'em.
Dust? Yup, we got it.
Gutters full of leaves? Yup, we got 'em.
Rooms we hardly ever use? Yup, we got 'em.
Taxes that knock our socks off? Yup, we got 'em.

It's kinda interesting that both of my kids ended up with pretty large homes but they 'settled' on a bit less then dear old mom and dad. Something manageable.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (LOgQ4)

166
But that's just it. Mitt would not even say it. And he SHOULD have.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:02 PM (ujg0T)

'zactly. It's true that most of the electorate would have thought he was lying through his teeth, but a few would have thought "hey, maybe he's got a point".

More importantly, even if it was insincere, it would have shown that he wasn't ashamed of his circumstances. Dood was a full grown man who thrust himself into the public eye and into politics. He should have had the stones to be secure in his own identity, in his own skin. Instead, he cowered like a pimply adolescent boy who got caught pounding his pud in the shower.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (veoSD)

167 130 Glass houses
Throw rocks [C_A]
17
[5:5]
Think logically
Much evil
Trust The Plan
Q

Posted by: Q at August 09, 2018 05:03 PM (r9UYA)

Forgot the link. NSFW

https://celebmasta.com/emily-ratajkowski/

Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (tHmVm)

168 Great post, ace.

Posted by: rickl at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (xjiRE)

169 The Left's indoctrination is all about granting unearned "self-esteem", not teaching self-control -- and is how useful idiots and slaves are made.

Posted by: ShainS at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (FASvy)

170 161 Actually, I believe the culprit is the credit boom. It has short circuited natural selection in the short term and bred an army of socialist pupae. The globalist agenda is most certainly behind it all.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (FTPVM)

Television.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (4ErVI)

171
the Dust BOWL? Oh, how I used to dream of one day owning a bowl, and some dust to put in it.

You had DREAMS...?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (oVJmc)

172 My grandmother is so old, she farts dust...into a bowl.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (FTPVM)

173 Wise words. Honestly, I was ready to ask people to come over and speak that way to my face. It was incredible.

Many people are bullies in front of the keyboard. It's surprising though that these were neighbors.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (dUJdY)

174 You had DREAMS...?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (oVJmc)

You had a brain? Oh. wait...

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:10 PM (dUJdY)

175 Envy is good. Covetousness is a mortal sin.

Envy is seeing another man's car and saying 'Lucky dog, I want to have one of those'. Covetousness is say 'I want to take that car from that guy'.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:10 PM (yQpMk)

176 Whatever happened to the "strong silent type" like Gary Cooper?
Yeah, those guys usually weren't that. You're thinking of their screen image. I have it on good authority that Rock Hudson was ghey. No, it's true.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (T6t7i)

177 139 106 I've got a bo bo --

Mom: Shut your mouth and quit whining!

Dad: Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about!

old and busted stereotype mode off/
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2018 04:59 PM (0ogQG)

FTFY
Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (NWiLs)

That said, if you don't teach kids *how* to respond to problems constructively, just telling them to suck it up or worse, threatening them with worse, is counterproductive.

I think the real problem is not so much the coddling as it is the utter lack of any constructive parenting.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (ujg0T)

178 The Left gets everything wrong because of their emphasis on race and class. Example: today's Google Doodle is Mary G. Ross, the "first female Native American aerospace engineer". Who gives a fcuk?

What actually happened is far cooler: she worked at Lockheed during WW2 as a mathematician, and they were so impressed that after the war they sent her to college on their dime to learn aerospace engineering. Then they sent her to the famous Skunk Works, where she worked from 1952 to 1973. If you can hang with those guys during those years, you're an impressive person. But of course just saying that doesn't virtue signal.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (ZGrMX)

179 Ou know what ? I am gonna blame baby boomers. That's right. Them. There was always some subversive crap floating in society, but it was always tampered by family, parenting. Baby boomers killed normal family. And now we have several generations of heads full of mush.
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (bUjCl)

--------------

Hasty generalizations, which is what your statement is, are really not a good idea.

As a tail end of the Boomers guy, I get sick of being blamed for almost all of what ails society.

Is there some new "Blame the Boomers" cirriculum now in schools that I am unaware of?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (I16G8)

180 Winners suck it up and do their jobs

Losers whip up mobs on Twitter to give them the illusion of power that they'd never get in the real world

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (0Ntuf)

181 The Clint Eastwood model of masculinity is long gone.

The new model is that guy Longshanks tossed out the window in Braveheart.

Posted by: wooga at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (nzgbV)

182 The beltway cucks are just dust in the wind.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:12 PM (FTPVM)

183 I've never met or even seen AtC, but I bet I could pick her out of a crowd immediately. I just get that feeling.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (4ErVI)

It is very hard to find my mother at church. She has scoliosis and has shrunk to about 5 feet, and she will be surrounded by Dutch people. So I usually look for my dad instead.

Posted by: pookysgirl at August 09, 2018 05:12 PM (XKZwp)

184
What actually happened is far cooler: she worked at Lockheed during
WW2 as a mathematician, and they were so impressed that after the war
they sent her to college on their dime to learn aerospace engineering.
Then they sent her to the famous Skunk Works, where she worked from 1952
to 1973. If you can hang with those guys during those years, you're an
impressive person. But of course just saying that doesn't virtue
signal.

It doesn't mean anything to Google without the Identity Politics.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:12 PM (oVJmc)

185 my early childhood home was pretty nice by local standards
then we had to move and move to poorer and poorer places
sad

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 09, 2018 05:12 PM (CE6iV)

186 >>>You had DREAMS...?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

well when I say I used to dream, I mean my father used to ritually torture me and tell me that I had to get the family a bowl and dust if I wanted to keep my hands.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 05:12 PM (PA9oZ)

187 Just got finished reading a book about the Dust Bowl and the families that suffered through it. You wanna talk poor...awful. Makes me feel like Rockefeller.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:04 PM (MX7xj)

My father is a bit of a ball-buster and when we were all younger and we went on Sunday drives, he'd like to drive us through the most prestigious neighborhoods of Upper Montclair (NJ) where the nicest mansions were and after we oohed and aahed and talked about how lucky "they" were to be living there, he'd drive through the shittiest neighborhoods of Paterson--the burned out buildings, the boarded up homes--some which were once grand--and the litter-strewn streets.
We didn't say a word and were happy to get back to our nice house.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (y8Foj)

188
As someone else said, they are trying to get him convicted by the Jury of being a rich guy with a rich guy lifestyle.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (I16G

--------

I have no illusions that Manafort was a squeaky clean political consultant but this is a political hit job. Mueller piled on bullshit charges just get him to flip on Trump. And if he doesn't or can't? Oh well, have fun in the Federal Pen for the next 30-40 years.

Posted by: WisRich at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (G0vdT)

189 137 I've never met or even seen AtC, but I bet I could pick her out of a crowd immediately. I just get that feeling.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:05 PM (4ErVI)

It may be time for links to a YouTube of her, or a(n) (inter)national MoMeetUp

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (ujg0T)

190 Arrested Development. It's the New Normal for 50% of the population.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (SbIX4)

191 Rub. Some. Dirt. On. It.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (lliHD)

192 Many people are bullies in front of the keyboard. It's surprising though that these were neighbors.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (dUJdY)

*********
One guy, who sits on the HOA board got into it with a neighbor and called her white trash, then said to take her crappy trampoline and cluttered yard back to the ghetto where she and her family belong.

Then, when her 16-year-old daughter got on there and told him to stop attacking her mom, the guy insulted HER.

This is a "nice" neighborhood. Just amazing how some of these people behave. I don't participate in any of the neighborhood events. I don't want to know these people and they don't need to know me.

Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (MZ8Zz)

193 It is always warming to watch the old ways, like the way that adults talked to each other in older movies. This was sort of the nostalgia trip that Mad Men lived on as well.

confidence pr0n for an audience too ashamed to admit that they miss adults.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (GoLZO)

194 The new model is that guy Longshanks tossed out the window in Braveheart.

Posted by: wooga at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (nzgbV)

Unlike today's "elite", Longshanks wasn't all that impressed with the pretty boy's "credentials"

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (0Ntuf)

195 >>>Dad: Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about!

I actually tried this exact line on my kid. It worked amazingly. He stopped crying instantly.

Posted by: wooga at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (nzgbV)

196 Alright you heard it here as the way to go. Now when can I expect my hugs from Alexthechick and Jane D'oh?

Posted by: Face-sized Spider

Haven't you heard? You've been replaced by a dung beetle...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (AM1GF)

197 I've never met or even seen AtC, but I bet I could pick her out of a crowd immediately. I just get that feeling.

You will trip over her.

*runs

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (yQpMk)

198
Dust? We were so poor we took the dust from the next door nuke plant and swept it into a corner to kill the spiders.

Overnight.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (LOgQ4)

199 That said, if you don't teach kids *how* to respond to problems constructively, just telling them to suck it up or worse, threatening them with worse, is counterproductive.

I think the real problem is not so much the coddling as it is the utter lack of any constructive parenting.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (ujg0T)

I've never understood the bullying and threatening model of parenting.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (NWiLs)

200 It has short circuited natural selection in the short term and bred an
army of socialist pupae. The globalist agenda is most certainly behind
it all.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:08 PM (FTPVM)

Television.

There's a lot to the TV theory. I remember when Dallas was the big show, and those in the former USSR and its captive states envied the people on the show. Hell, even Americans did.

One good thing about poverty and technological backwardness is that you don't have the world's richest people rubbed in your face as some sort of personal rebuke.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

201 The Clint Eastwood model of masculinity is long gone.

The new model is that guy Longshanks tossed out the window in Braveheart.
Posted by: wooga at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (nzgbV)

That young flounce who was "skilled" in the art of military tactics...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (y8Foj)

202 Many people are bullies in front of the keyboard. It's surprising though that these were neighbors.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:09 PM (dUJdY)

Maybe it's different where you live, but the only place I ever felt a sense of community is the neighborhood I grew up in during the 1970s and 1980s. I can go over there right now and there are still a few people living there from that time and they'll smile and wave like maniacs and I'd be there for two hours shooting the breeze. And I haven't lived there since 1991.

Everywhere else there is no sense of community. One barely knows the neighbors beyond a very superficial interaction. Where I grew up we used to have block parties in the summer where we closed the road off and everyone went outside and had fun together. No one has block parties here. One neighborhood did put together a small holiday parade for the little kids, but all they did was march down the street while their parents took photos of them. Very little interaction took place.

So actually I'm not surprised at all that someone acted that viciously to their neighbors.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (4ErVI)

203 I'm a broken record. I know. A broken record has got to do what a broken record has got to do.

I have three autistic children.

Self control and self discipline are a challenge. Each learns differently. Its on me to teach them. Its my life's work. It is literally the consuming focus of what I do.

I have one, who used to always say but I can't help it, I don't know why I did that, said that etc etc, I just couldn't help it!!!. It has taken years. Now he keeps track of his self discipline points himself. he knows when he earns them and when he loses them. he knows its a daily grind. He knows the penalties for losing it and the rewards for keeping it.

Virtue. If you don't know what it is, how can you expect to teach it to somebody else.

Virtue. Live it, because your children will follow your example a lot more closely than your advice.

The stuff isn't a punchline to a freakin joke. It is literally the secret to happiness, success and long life.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (C6xeQ)

204 68
>>> I remember having a SIL that was going through therapy and
the therapist told her that she should say whatever is on her mind to
whoever she wants. This obviously resulted in many arguments and hurt
feelings but I kept hearing this over and over from other relatives and
even friends.

----
My SIL the "life coach" taught her now 30-something princess this. And we've suffered this idiocy at every family gathering since she was a toddler.

She's working at UC Berkeley now as a "student mediator."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 04:53 PM (ptqGC)
---
My BIL tried this for a while; then I made sure he got it back, in spades. He finally quit it when I told him, "he who stirs the sh*t will be made to lick the spoon."

Posted by: the Butcher at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (DIosY)

205 Shut up Ace, you capitalist running dog. Your privileged homes will be burned to the ground when I establish my socialist utopia!

. . .

*eyes bulge slightly and teeth make a "what's up doc'" death grimace*
. . .

Your injuries in the fire will of course, be treated for free in our glorious new healthcare system! Which, did I mention, we will not have to pay for because everyone will live forever and there will be no crime, sickness and disease because . . . . socialist utopia! Amirite comrades?

Posted by: Alexandria (Maduro) Ocasio-Cortez at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (Fb9aZ)

206 Hasty generalizations, which is what your statement is, are really not a good idea.

As a tail end of the Boomers guy, I get sick of being blamed for almost all of what ails society.

Is there some new "Blame the Boomers" cirriculum now in schools that I am unaware of?

==

you seem to be offended because you are part of that group, not because I am factually wrong

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (bUjCl)

207 156

141 Relativity and irony rule the world
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth

I wouldn't say what you're seeing is "irony." Oh, sure, technically it is, but it's so fucking brain-dead and automatic and robotic and stupid that it scarcely deserves the name.

Irony can be funny and can point to a truth in an interesting way, but what these people are doing is largely just saying the Opposite of what they mean and calling themselves clever for doing so.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 05:07 PM (PA9oZ)

Like rain on your wedding day

Posted by: Alanis Morissette at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (7HtZB)

208 of course, there's also the fear of being fired and losing everything for standing in the way of someone's freakout. Especially since corporate america is now demanding a uniform lifestyle from americans. Oh sure, they'll sell you ads about trucks and beer with vision of being tough and girls in bikinis, but you let it be known you vote trump or don't applaud the latest gaygroup then you will be smashed.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (GoLZO)

209 I wish that I had Jessie's girl.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (/tuJf)

210 I'm interested to see what kind of adults the children of Gen Xers turn out to be.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (xPl2J)

I'm interested to see what kind of kids the Millennials produce. They should be real pips.

Of course, I plan to be living in the middle of nowhere by then...

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (MX7xj)

211 That's why I watch and read lots of stuff before the 1900's, the Bronte sisters, G.A. Henty, Laura Ingalls - all of them teach you a better way to get along with the society around us.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (3iNII)

212 I think the most important thing my father constantly drilled into my head, emotionally, was "You aren't important, you aren't special, and emotions do not matter. Only results matter."

Posted by: Hikaru at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (a+9p6)

213 Is AtC the one who stands about 4'0" has a flat head and no teeth? Because that chica is loads of fun!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (FTPVM)

214 Irony, like Entropy, is ever increasing.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (lliHD)

215 "To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad."

Does this mean I have to sell my Challenger?

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (+6dXu)

216 The left has found its ideas wanting when tried in the real world.

So they've decided they are going to change reality. And you don't change reality by *doing* things, but by thinking them. And thinking them hard.

And if your thinking also fails to get the results you want, its because not *everyone* is thinking the right thoughts. And the answer to that is to either make them embrace "right think" or deal with them in a more permanent manner.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (eSx+E)

217 One guy, who sits on the HOA board got into it with a neighbor and called her white trash, then said to take her crappy trampoline and cluttered yard back to the ghetto where she and her family belong.

Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (MZ8Zz)

Used to be that the keyboard bully would be found with broken fingers and the keyboard shoved up his ass.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (0Ntuf)

218 >> I wish that I had Jessie's girl.

Where can I find a woman like that?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:17 PM (lliHD)

219 "I'm interested to see what kind of kids the Millennials produce. They should be real pips. "

Quite a few of them produce their kids right into a medical waste tray.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 09, 2018 05:17 PM (3iNII)

220 Where can I find a woman like that?

Like Jessie's girl ?

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:17 PM (bUjCl)

221 Does this mean I have to sell my Challenger?

And buy a Harley.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:18 PM (yQpMk)

222 Social media allows chickenshits to run their mouths free of consequences.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:18 PM (0Ntuf)

223 What actually happened is far cooler: she worked at Lockheed during WW2 as a mathematician, and they were so impressed that after the war they sent her to college on their dime to learn aerospace engineering. Then they sent her to the famous Skunk Works, where she worked from 1952 to 1973. If you can hang with those guys during those years, you're an impressive person. But of course just saying that doesn't virtue signal.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (ZGrMX)

---

Tough woman.

I want to be like her when I grow up.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 05:18 PM (6qLDQ)

224 221 Does this mean I have to sell my Challenger?

And buy a Harley.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:18 PM (yQpMk)

I can't afford to have a mid-life crisis.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (NWiLs)

225 >>And buy a Harley.

If you have a lot of places to get to that you don't want to actually get to. Yes.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (lliHD)

226 >> I wish that I had Jessie's girl.

Now I can't get that Boogie Nights scene out of my head.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (xPl2J)

227 So they've decided they are going to change reality. And you don't change reality by *doing* things, but by thinking them. And thinking them hard.

And if your thinking also fails to get the results you want, its because not *everyone* is thinking the right thoughts. And the answer to that is to either make them embrace "right think" or deal with them in a more permanent manner.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (eSx+E)

This is actually a brilliant summary....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (y8Foj)

228 My boss just thanked me, in writing, for doing what is basically my job.

Clearly, this year's raises are going to suck.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (yQpMk)

229 Millennials came from Gen Xers, themselves raised by Boomers, spawn of the Greatest Generation...

Plenty of blame to go around, folks.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (AM1GF)

230 >> I wish that I had Jessie's girl.

Where can I find a woman like that?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:17 PM (lliHD)

At this point I'll take Stacy's mom!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (wYseH)

231 Now I can't get that Boogie Nights scene out of my head.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (xPl2J)

And then comes Sister Christian....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (y8Foj)

232 222 Social media allows chickenshits to run their mouths free of consequences.
Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:18 PM (0Ntuf)

---

Antifa has yet to experience that.

The way things are going, they'll get their wish.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (6qLDQ)

233 Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2018 05:14 PM (C6xeQ)

I admire you.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (lwiT4)

234 230 >> I wish that I had Jessie's girl.

Where can I find a woman like that?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:17 PM (lliHD)

At this point I'll take Stacy's mom!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (wYseH)

She's got it goin' on.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (NWiLs)

235 (224) Just buy a Sturgis tee. Much lower maintenance.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (RuIsu)

236 >>And thinking them hard.

That was Wonder Woman's Super Power, right?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (lliHD)

237
At this point I'll take Stacy's mom!

She certainly has it goin' on.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (yQpMk)

238 71 >>>40 This entire post also shines the light of the "no filter" people. Just because you have a thought doesn't mean you should emote it.

and to get to the other thing that annoys me: Just because you thought of a Stock Twitter "Joke" to say, robotically repeating a stupid catchphrase that has been used sixty six billion times already, doesn't mean you should say it.

There's a thing these Twitter Wits should look into. It's called a "Straight Declarative Sentence."

A straight declarative sentence seems almost subversive in a world in which everyone speaks only in unfunny snark and millionth-hand "wit."

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2018 04:54 PM (PA9oZ)

I call those people "Philosophers of the Bumper Sticker School".

It's less than nonsense. It's borrowed nonsense that's tired. Worn out. Trite. Cliche'.

It's like a general heckling out to the vastness of intergalactic space. No real target. Just a hope that one person of the six billion on planet earth maybe hasn't heard the unoriginal thought mouth farting out of what could be termed a "face anus" and that one out of six billionth person think it clever enough to not roll their eyes.

I would just tell them: "Don't quit your day job."

Oooh, that'll leave a mark.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (A3b6q)

239
What actually happened is far cooler: she worked at Lockheed during WW2 as a mathematician, and they were so impressed that after the war they sent her to college on their dime to learn aerospace engineering. Then they sent her to the famous Skunk Works, where she worked from 1952 to 1973. If you can hang with those guys during those years, you're an impressive person. But of course just saying that doesn't virtue signal.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (ZGrMX)

---

Tough woman.

I want to be like her when I grow up.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 05:18 PM (6qLDQ)

Me too!

Posted by: Fauxahontas at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (veoSD)

240 The left has found its ideas wanting when tried in the real world.

So they've decided they are going to change reality. And you don't change reality by *doing* things, but by thinking them. And thinking them hard.

And if your thinking also fails to get the results you want, its because not *everyone* is thinking the right thoughts. And the answer to that is to either make them embrace "right think" or deal with them in a more permanent manner.

Well stated. They also want you to die (which you implied as well)

Posted by: Max Power at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (q177U)

241
Yup the Boomers are particularly responsible for Social Security. A program they were too young to vote for, and for the first time in history, had to pay for from their very first paycheck until their last.

Greedy bastids. Paid for everyone else's fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, now expecting millennials to get a fvcking job.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (LOgQ4)

242 147
The boomers raised the millennials for the most part. So maybe it's not
surprising that their in an older cohort that acts like them. I'm
interested to see what kind of adults the children of Gen Xers turn out
to be.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2018 05:06 PM (xPl2J)

I think it's along that line, only the "parents" wanted to be their child's BFF, so the parent acted like the child. The child took cue and thought how they were acting was OK.

As my dad said many years ago: At 18 and you can't wait to move out of the house, I have failed as a parent.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (q1VoB)

243 Hasty generalizations, which is what your statement is, are really not a good idea.

As a tail end of the Boomers guy, I get sick of being blamed for almost all of what ails society.

Is there some new "Blame the Boomers" cirriculum now in schools that I am unaware of?

==

you seem to be offended because you are part of that group, not because I am factually wrong
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:15 PM (bUjCl)

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No, I'm not offended. And, yes, you absolutely factually wrong. You made a statement about an entire age class of people that allows for no exceptions.

Please look up "Hasty Generalization".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (I16G8)

244 I'm interested to see what kind of kids the Millennials produce. They should be real pips.
Of course, I plan to be living in the middle of nowhere by then...

Posted by: hobbitopoly

The key to a successful life. Know when to hold them, and know when to fold them.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (T6t7i)

245 Irony, like Entropy, is ever increasing.
Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:16 PM (lliHD)

Entropy ain't what it used to be.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (khWYc)

246 I can't afford to have a mid-life crisis.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (NWiLs)
LOL! When people ask me what kind of car that is I tell them it's a 2011 Midlife Crisis.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (+6dXu)

247 Did I miss the mocking of that Bronx horse face candidate?

Have been busy becoming a refined grandmother (he is three weeks old and runs my life now. Precious boy). Also binge watching Netflix as I don't like August and heat. Am a delicate magnolia.

Anyway, with her crazy eyes and teeth she will go far.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (J5mzk)

248 "There's no fool like an old fool" - My Mom.

Posted by: JAS at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (3HNOQ)

249 Ace,
Twitter is for fags

Posted by: Captain Carl at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (DmAEc)

250 Does this mean I have to sell my Challenger?

No, it means you should never have bought it.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (T6t7i)

251 Wait.

Ace has friends?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (hyuyC)

252 181 The Clint Eastwood model of masculinity is long gone.

The new model is that guy Longshanks tossed out the window in Braveheart.
------------------------------------------------------------------
I am well skilled in the arts of Twitter and mean-girlrry

Posted by: theATL at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (aV1UA)

253 Wait.

Ace has friends?

In his crawlspace.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (yQpMk)

254 I don't know which is worse, the childishness of older people on social media who should know better, or the total abandonment of the rule of law (such as the Constitution) and betrayal of their country by people born here. There's probably a relation somewhere. But it is eerie - you'd think the personality was not malleable after a certain point, but constant leftist browbeating (I'm guessing) has completely cowed and retrained them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (/qEW2)

255 This is a "nice" neighborhood. Just amazing how some of these people behave. I don't participate in any of the neighborhood events. I don't want to know these people and they don't need to know me.
Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (MZ8Zz)

We know our across the street neighbors, caddy corner back yard neighbors and the people to our right. Don't know anyone else.

To Dack's point.. our old neighborhood had several block parties and we always had a blast. We had some great people living on our block. Sadly the neighborhood started going bad and slowly everyone moved away. We were the last to leave.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (dUJdY)

256 LOL! When people ask me what kind of car that is I tell them it's a 2011 Midlife Crisis.

Posted by: creeper at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (+6dXu)

Heh. I'll just have to stick to ruminating over a wasted life.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:22 PM (NWiLs)

257 I've always been bothered by the spelling of "Jessie" in Jessie's Girl.

Jessie is a girl's name.
Jesse is a boy's name.

Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (44PTs)

258 217 One guy, who sits on the HOA board got into it with a neighbor and called her white trash, then said to take her crappy trampoline and cluttered yard back to the ghetto where she and her family belong.

Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2018 05:13 PM (MZ8Zz)

HOA boards and Neighborhood Association boards are the losers who live to control other people but lack the brains and people skills to run for political office.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (0Ntuf)

259 creeper

That's pretty funny.

And I have socks older that you, ya young thing, you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (hyuyC)

260 >>At this point I'll take Stacy's mom!

True story. In high school I dated a girl who's mom was a professional model. Mostly for high end women's fashion magazines and the like. She was .. attractive.

My girlfriend, her mother, her father, pretty much everyone in town would catch me sneaking glances at her mom. I came to find out my girlfriend did not care for this.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (/tuJf)

261 Where I grew up we used to have block parties in the summer where we closed the road off and everyone went outside and had fun together.---

I grew up in a neighborhood like that. We would have those kind of parties for the couple guys that fought in Vietnam when they came home. It was a shock to me later in life that was not the normal welcome home.

Posted by: X-ray at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (kG2lj)

262
Hasty generalizations, which is what your statement is, are really not a good idea.

As a tail end of the Boomers guy, I get sick of being blamed for almost all of what ails society.

Is there some new "Blame the Boomers" cirriculum now in schools that I am unaware of?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:11 PM (I16G

As a group I'm afraid we have to own a lot of it. I didn't do it, but we're the generation that raised the whiney tykes that are now raising the even more whiney tykes. If you're at the tail end then remember the asshats that came before us got into the education business and had perfected screwing it up by the time any kids we had came on-line.
I have 4 older siblings who are mostly whacko Massachusetts Democrat voters. They, like me, are ALL boomers. I don't discuss politics with any of them because it's not polite to tell your older brothers and sisters they're a bunch of stupid morons.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (37IEG)

263 229 Millennials came from Gen Xers, themselves raised by Boomers, spawn of the Greatest Generation...

Plenty of blame to go around, folks.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:19 PM (AM1GF)

IIRC, most of any generation is raised by the people two generations above them. That is, most Boomers were raised by the "GI's", most Generation X by the "Silent" Generation.

My own parents were definitely Silent generation, too young to Big Band Swing and too old to Twist and Shout.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (ujg0T)

264 While this is mostly and obviously correct, I can't agree with this part:

They were in fact taught by their parents, their same-age cohort, the people valorized in the media as role models that emotional reserve was cool, mature, and (for the menfolk) a foundational virtue of masculinity -- and yet they've abandoned all that.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case. What Millenials are is not a clear line, but the tipping point reached in a gradual process. Back in the 70s, I knew some people who were already like this, and many - perhaps even the majority - who were well on the way to that state. Most of the people my age were, at best, only residually believers in maturity. Hell, the very word "mature" got snickers, unless it referred to sex scenes in movies.

It's now pervasive, and it has roots in even the seeming sane people. Once you make "authenticity" your God, you will inevitably end up in SJW-land.

Posted by: George LeS at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (59GGI)

265 > I wish that I had Jessie's girl.

Where can I find a woman like that?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:17 PM (lliHD)

At this point I'll take Stacy's mom!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (wYseH)

She's got it goin' on.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:20 PM (NWiLs)

Stacy's Mom was Jessie's Girl when she was younger...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (y8Foj)

266 One guy, who sits on the HOA board got into it with a neighbor and
called her white trash, then said to take her crappy trampoline and
cluttered yard back to the ghetto where she and her family belong.

Isn't that EVERY member of an HOA board?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (oVJmc)

267 >>Ace has friends?

Well, there's 'Sam' the Butcher. He brings the the Meat.

And, 'Carl' The Exterminator.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (lliHD)

268 Heh. I'll just have to stick to ruminating over a wasted life.

I recommend drinking heavily, though I pretty much always recommend drinking heavily.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (yQpMk)

269 , "I'm 87 and I don't give a shit anymore."

That truly is second childhood.

Posted by: JAS at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (3HNOQ)

270 Have been busy becoming a refined grandmother (he is three weeks old and runs my life now. Precious boy).

Congratulations. That's wonderful!

Yes, people have rather regularly been making fun of the Democratic Socialist from NY-not so much on account of her, looks but because she says idiotic things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (AllCR)

271 I think we're ignoring the reality (a little) that these dickheads would have been antagonizing us daily - hourly - under a corrupt President Hag and then lecturing us about not being so "angry" "hateful" and "reactive" toward their antagonism.

All the things they clearly are right now (and are, period, but they would have been hiding it under the light of how AMAZING and WONDER WOMAN and PRESIDENTIAL that rotten c*nt is and how everyone should be as HAPPY and FREEDOM LOVING as they are).

They would have also still been singing their decrepit lying song about unity and "going high".

So a lot that we're dealing with openly now, but obviously not all, is still a result of these baby assholes just not getting their way.

Posted by: Sarah Jeong at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (uEbPt)

272 Oh, to be younger than 29 again!

Posted by: Axeman at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (vDqXW)

273
OT: Don't tell Jonah Goldberg, but Crocs is shutting down all it's company owned manufacturing facilities.

http://tinyurl.com/yd7d46ze

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (veoSD)

274 I should put up a pic of my dick. Let them screech over that.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (90cx5)

275 I was discussing with my almost 80 year old Mom that I was annoyed with my job and wish I could retire. She said ' oh well that's the bad part of being a man. You've got to keep on working. '

She's definitely old school,

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (khWYc)

276 I offer up youtube - specifically dash cam video of car wrecks. At first, they were humorous. Then worrisome, then downright terrifying. Especially when you find yourself driving in traffic and realize the scene developing in front of you is exactly the scene you just saw on youtube last night where the guy makes a left turn in front of you. That is when you realize that the 'rules of the road' only work when everyone follows those rules.

Now I'm too scared to drive into town for groceries.

---

I have driven the same stretch of road twice a day for 29 1/2 years. I have never seen an accident happened in front of me like a dash cam video. If they were that frequent, after almost 30 years, I should've at least seen one.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (REkPr)

277 Maybe it's time for another occasional series:

The Banal Bumper Sticker Saying Farts from the Face Anus of John Podhoretz.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (4ErVI)

278 Runner I have to agree with Calm Mentor. That brush you used was several feet wide. Hubby and I are baby boomers and we know many more. Our kids turned out fine and so did theirs.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (dUJdY)

279 I recommend drinking heavily, though I pretty much always recommend drinking heavily.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (yQpMk)

I do admire your consistency.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (NWiLs)

280 Entropy ain't what it used to be.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp

Yeah, it's been going downhill for a long time.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:25 PM (T6t7i)

281 I was the first one to move in when my neighborhood started going bad.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 09, 2018 05:25 PM (RuIsu)

282 I'm a drooling retard. Kill me!!!

Posted by: John McCain at August 09, 2018 05:26 PM (FTPVM)

283 Now I'm thinking about Rachel Hunter in the music video. Goodgodallmighty.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2018 05:26 PM (NWiLs)

284 I came to find out my girlfriend did not care for this.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (/tuJf)

Because you were a shrinking violet.

You should have insisted on a threesome...it's in all the movies I watch, so it must happen a lot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:26 PM (wYseH)

285 I used to visit Shorpy.com quite often. One day, there was a picture of a kid (12-14) who worked a twelve-hour shift every day in the textile mill.

The look on his face, in his eyes, made him look to be about thirty-five. You saw that look on kid's faces a lot in the depression era photos.

The parents of the baby boomers, who lived through the depression, didn't want their kids to grow up like they did.

Posted by: Wilbur Woodhousen at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (XeN7w)

286
No, I'm not offended. And, yes, you absolutely factually wrong. You made a statement about an entire age class of people that allows for no exceptions.

Please look up "Hasty Generalization".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:21 PM (I16G

are you trying to take the fun out of mocking the most self-absorbed generation that came about in the last 100 years ?

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (bUjCl)

287 I wish that I was Jessie's girl!

What?

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (25X4G)

288 Cuomo to take criminal action against ICE? What fuckin retard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (Ydx5u)

289 Stacy's Mom was Jessie's Girl when she was younger...
Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (y8Foj)

Jessie is a girl's name and Stacy could be a boy's name...
Hmmmm

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (y8Foj)

290 IIRC, most of any generation is raised by the people two generations above them. That is, most Boomers were raised by the "GI's", most Generation X by the "Silent" Generation.

-------------

thanks for pointing this out. The earlier generalization about generations sounded wrong to me but I couldn't put my finger on it.

I feel like Gen Z is begat from Gen X. Thus, Gen Z is a bit cooler than millenials.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (GoLZO)

291 278
Runner I have to agree with Calm Mentor. That brush you used was
several feet wide. Hubby and I are baby boomers and we know many more.
Our kids turned out fine and so did theirs.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (dUJdY)
Heh - consider - which is why you're here, not over on VOX or DailyKraps. I suspect us boomers here aren't prepared to take the blame for something we know we personally didn't do, and can point to our children as evidence of that fact.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (37IEG)

292 kbdabear

I used my time as a HOA President to prep me for the public office I'm in now. In general, you are right. There are exceptions.

In my HOA, I wanted and delivered on letting the owners have more autonomy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (hyuyC)

293 This post by Ace is officially Elevated to Public Intellectual offering... in kraken- world.... our Ewok is erudite....

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (ffWPP)

294 I have driven the same stretch of road twice a day for 29 1/2 years. I have never seen an accident happened in front of me like a dash cam video. If they were that frequent, after almost 30 years, I should've at least seen one.

Posted by: rickb223

You've never held up short in the middle of crossing the road because that oncoming car, it doesn't look like it's stopping for that red light...oh, it didn't...oh $#!+, it just T-boned that car coming legally through the intersection, and if I hadn't stopped I'd be the meat in a two-car sandwich.

I have.

No wonder I don't trust much of anyone to do the obvious right and proper thing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (AM1GF)

295 I'm interested to see what kind of adults the children of Gen Xers turn out to be.

---

My youngest is in her mid-20s with two beautiful little girls who are our middle ground, so to speak.

Being their gammy has been an eye-opening experience, to say the least.

And I'm loving every minute of it.

I used to dread turning 50.

Not anymore.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (6qLDQ)

296 I like the young at heart thing. Flying a kite, water balloon fights and finding shapes in clouds.

Temper tantrum stupidity I fortunately do not have to put with.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (n3R0X)

297 Who the fuck put the shrimp prerrino in charge of the 5 and put the geraldo on?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (Ydx5u)

298 If they were that frequent, after almost 30 years, I should've at least seen one.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (REkPr)

As far as I can tell, they all happen in Russia, where it seems everyone is drunk all of the time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (wYseH)

299 Just occurred to me, Rosie O < 30 seconds of turmoil. Important is she/it/xer
We get too soon old and too late shmaht.Anyone around Gloucester get some chowda and clams after you take the spill in Good Harbor. Go late on a Sunday. No parking charge and the line at Farnhams won't wear you down. Miss MA only for these things and not a thing else. Well, Antonios pizza in Stoneham but that's about pizza and I've been undermined.
zza-zza sicilian ftw!

Who is going to jail?????
Well, we're waiting...

... and leg chair on the 5

Posted by: micky at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (dF9Lb)

300 To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad."

But not new. Difference is that today we all get to see the behavior....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (6qErC)

301 uomo to take criminal action against ICE? What fuckin retard
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (Ydx5u)

Cuomo is a jerkoff. He has these annoying commercials that run 24/7 in the tristate area. Is he going to run for president?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (y8Foj)

302 in Russia, where it seems everyone is drunk all of the time.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (wYseH)

And this is a problem?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (Ydx5u)

303 The parents of the baby boomers, who lived through the depression, didn't want their kids to grow up like they did.

Posted by: Wilbur Woodhousen

Given the maturity gap between those who did and those who didn't, I'm starting to suspect that was a massive mistake.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (AM1GF)

304 Millennials haven't failed, at least not on their own. The preceding generation failed them.

Posted by: fretlesst at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (sGtp+)

305 I'm a drooling retard. Kill me!!!
Posted by: John McCain

If we kill you now who will represent the citizens of Arizona?

Posted by: X-ray at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (kG2lj)

306 What about the 55-year-old drama queens who are trying to pass themselves off as Young People by acting the same way?

One of the greatest restraints on human behavior is given its most extreme expression with Heinlein's quote "An armed society is a polite society." Ultimately, it is the fear of retaliation and consequence which drives etiquette and polite behavior. Whether that is public shame, loss of work, a fist in the face or a sword through the gullet, or even an ultimate damnation or condemnation by an ultimate judge, it is consequence which restrains humans from being their worst.

The internet frees us from consequence and condemnation, and when you combine that with a rejection of absolute authority, ethics, and truth, then what's there to keep everyone from reducing to the worst grunting brute within them?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (39g3+)

307 Cuomo is a jerkoff. He has these annoying commercials that run 24/7 in the tristate area. Is he going to run for president?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (y8Foj)

We can only hope so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (Ydx5u)

308 300 To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad."

But not new. Difference is that today we all get to see the behavior....
Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (6qErC)

Old hippie stoners, bald heade, with ratty ponytails.....

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (ffWPP)

309 In Soviet Russia accident films YOU.

Posted by: Max Power at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (q177U)

310 Who the fuck put the shrimp prerrino in charge of the 5 and put the geraldo on?

Who's the new girl? I saw her introduce herself, but I missed her name.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (fuK7c)

311 Stacy's Mom was Jessie's Girl when she was younger...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (y8Foj)

Jessie is a girl's name and Stacy could be a boy's name...

Hmmmm

It's PAT!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (oVJmc)

312 I have.

No wonder I don't trust much of anyone to do the obvious right and proper thing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (AM1GF)

Same here. A couple of years ago I was driving with my girlfriend (she was driving) and someone came to a fast stop next to us at a stop light. Something about how he did it made me say, "Let this guy get in front of us. I don't want him behind us." So she let him get ahead and sure as shit he rammed into the car in front of him about 20 seconds later.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (4ErVI)

313 My girlfriend, her mother, her father, pretty much
everyone in town would catch me sneaking glances at her mom. I came to
find out my girlfriend did not care for this.

Posted by: JackStraw
This is akin to the "don't look down her shirt" problem. Almost impossible to do.

Also, humble brag.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (T6t7i)

314 297 Who the fuck put the shrimp prerrino in charge of the 5 and put the geraldo on?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:28 PM (Ydx5u)

The PGA championship is on TNT

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (MM1XE)

315 young immature

I've seen kids with great maturity and adults that act like kindergardeners.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (AM1GF)

316 in Russia, where it seems everyone is drunk all of the time.

I have a bit of a fondness for a country where being invited to a party is the same as being invite to spend the night because everyone is expected to drink until they pass out wherever they are.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (yQpMk)

317 Sorry, it is Angelo's in Stoneham.

Posted by: micky at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (dF9Lb)

318 Who's the new girl? I saw her introduce herself, but I missed her name.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (fuK7c)

Don't know. Just sat down...now Perino is pushing the RINO line on immigration...I am starting to hate her guts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (Ydx5u)

319 Thought it worth noting -

Envy is so poisonous that iirc it's one of the Seven Deadly Sins. And a form of it - -covetousness - is explicitly banned by The Ten Commandments.

Posted by: junior at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (PzKK9)

320 Youth worship.... been around for a while...

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (ffWPP)

321
Also, humble brag.
Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:30 PM (T6t7i)

yes it is.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (y8Foj)

322 As a group I'm afraid we have to own a lot of it. I didn't do it, but we're the generation that raised the whiney tykes that are now raising the even more whiney tykes. If you're at the tail end then remember the asshats that came before us got into the education business and had perfected screwing it up by the time any kids we had came on-line.
I have 4 older siblings who are mostly whacko Massachusetts Democrat voters. They, like me, are ALL boomers. I don't discuss politics with any of them because it's not polite to tell your older brothers and sisters they're a bunch of stupid morons.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (37IEG)

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As a general group, agreed. However, the same group did not vote in our Society killers like SS, Medicare/Medicail, generational welfare, etc. Too young for that.

I raised a 22 y/o, hard working, level headed daughter who is now a pediatric nurse. Accordingly, please leave me out of said bashing.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (I16G8)

323 >>Also, humble brag.

A humble brag would have been if I had dated her mother.

Sadly, no.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (/tuJf)

324 320
Youth worship.... been around for a while...

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (ffWPP)
Yes, Kate Upton, for example.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (37IEG)

325 But...wait....we still don' t have filters on the ONT, right? RIGHT?

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (7UW64)

326 The best part of this; the people who this applies to don't think it's directed at them.

They have the emotions 13 year old girls and the arrogance of middle-aged French aristocrats.

You'll often see it when the Infinite Dick Clarks whine and moan about whatever Twitter Outrage is going on (usually when it's conservatives angry about something the left is doing) and sniffle that Twitter is a horrible site full of horrible people...and then immediately start a dude-flirting Tweetstorm about how New York BBQ is better than Memphis BBQ.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (datdl)

327 Millennials haven't failed, at least not on their own. The preceding generation failed them.

Posted by: fretlesst

Worse. Some of them preyed upon them.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (AM1GF)

328 are you trying to take the fun out of mocking the most self-absorbed generation that came about in the last 100 years ?

Methinks someone is attempting to blame someone else for their own problems? May be wrong but it sure sounds like it.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (Tyii7)

329 She was just rooting for a democratic win in november so they can pass an immigration bill...what a cock sucker, but in her case I am sure she is not

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (Ydx5u)

330 To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad."

Meh... saw in it my MIL in her declining years.. see it in my mom as well but not quite as bad. My MIL did so many things that embarrassed the hell out of my husband. In a doctors office she would point to someone and say loudly... look at that fat slob. She was NEVER like that when she was younger. I think alot of it was her dementia.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (dUJdY)

331 316. Grump is true Slav in heart.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (fA1SL)

332 I have driven the same stretch of road twice a day for 29 1/2 years. I have never seen an accident happened in front of me like a dash cam video. If they were that frequent, after almost 30 years, I should've at least seen one.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2018 05:24 PM (REkPr)

Lucky you. In the past year I've seen four accidents (and a couple near-accidents) at the intersection a quarter-mile from my house. It's really the city's fault for allowing such a poorly designed intersection to be built, but from my understanding it seems pretty much impossible for any road to go that long without a major accident.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (X00x7)

333 Quite a few Millennials were raised by Boomers as the children of the Boomers 2nd or 3rd marriage. The Boomers spent the years they should have been raising the Gen X kids of their first marriage "finding themselves" along with "working at fulfilling careers". The Boomers decided the next marriage they'd smother their rug rats with attention, praising them and rewarding them profusely for managing to land a turd in the toilet when they took a shit.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (0Ntuf)

334 304
Millennials haven't failed, at least not on their own. The preceding generation failed them.

Posted by: fretless

I blame society.

Posted by: Officer Krupke at August 09, 2018 05:32 PM (T6t7i)

335 The problem is, there needs to be a PENALTY to screaming "REEEEEEE!" and instead it gets taken as logical discourse.

Until shame can be re-introduced into society, the diaper-filling tantrums of the Left will continue.

Posted by: acethepug at August 09, 2018 05:33 PM (HwQlG)

336 Cuomo is a jerkoff. He has these annoying commercials that run 24/7 in the tristate area. Is he going to run for president?

I think Cuomo's mechanic is going to run for president. Its going to look like the floor under the refrigerator in a slum house on debate night, swarms of cockroaches everywhere

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:33 PM (39g3+)

337 I dated a girl in college who had 2 sisters who were both hotter than eachother...seriously, from one moment to the next you couldn't pick the hottest of the 3.

... and a mom that was so hot it was impossible not to look.

Short lived.
But, eventually, I ended up going 2 for 4.

And by baseball rules, that's a HOF type of average.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:33 PM (lliHD)

338 Grump is true Slav in heart.

I want the chrome M57 but alas, broke.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:33 PM (yQpMk)

339 >>To be young, physically, is a gift. To be young emotionally -- especially in your silver or silvering years -- is ridiculous and sad.

Excellent post, Ace!!

I am amazed that our national discourse, particularly our media, have regressed into middle school mean girls. It is alarming.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2018 05:33 PM (W+vEI)

340 334 304
Millennials haven't failed, at least not on their own. The preceding generation failed them.

Posted by: fretless

I blame society.
Posted by: Officer Krupke

I blame everyone except me.

Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 05:34 PM (44PTs)

341 284 I came to find out my girlfriend did not care for this.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (/tuJf)

Because you were a shrinking violet.

You should have insisted on a threesome...it's in all the movies I watch, so it must happen a lot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2018 05:26 PM (wYseH)

Stop going to Brazzers.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2018 05:34 PM (zRwJ/)

342 I should put an example of my white priviledge childhood, picking cotton in the hot South Carolina sun for 3 cents a pound. For the man.

Posted by: Eromero at August 09, 2018 05:34 PM (zLDYs)

343 338. I ordered two, because. Will be eating less this month, and next, but worth it.

Only gold-plated could be better.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (fA1SL)

344 And the Greatest Generation begat the Boomers, and the Boomers begat the Millenials, and the Millenials begat the... whatever they are ... sins, iniquities, generations... it's all a big mashup...

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (ffWPP)

345 I blame society.

But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (fuK7c)

346 Failsafe is on right now.

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (MM1XE)

347 Report: Ceasefire reached between Israel and Hamas
Truce mediated by Egypt goes into effect at 10:45pm on Thursday evening, after 24 hours of hostilities, with nearly 200 rockets fired from Gaza at Israel and the IAF attacking over 150 targets in the strip; Gaza source confirms ceasefire, Israeli sources deny it.

I hope it is not true, because if it is, it would be another historic cave by Netanyahu

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (Ydx5u)

348 About the privilege thing, it's not just restraint, but the ability to be happy for someone else's good fortune.

It's a wonderful feeling to be know that someone will share in your pleasure even if they don't have any benefit from it. That you can tell them about something good in your life without being thought a braggart.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (dYDe7)

349 are you trying to take the fun out of mocking the most self-absorbed generation that came about in the last 100 years ?
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (bUjCl)

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See me at 322. You just can't help it, can you?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (I16G8)

350 The rule used to be, "If you lose your shit, you've lost the game."

Now it's the San Francisco city motto. Though it may not mean what they think.

Posted by: Hands at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (EzdLW)

351 What group elected Obama? That's the group that needs to check their shit. And honestly I haven't a clue what age group goes with which descriptor.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (khWYc)

352 Failsafe is on right now.
Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (MM1XE)

Station?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (Ydx5u)

353 Nicely put argument, Ace. I'm passing this on to my 23 year old son.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (9KUXB)

354 She was just rooting for a democratic win in november so they can pass
an immigration bill...what a cock sucker, but in her case I am sure she
is not

We have all the immigration laws we need.

Let's enforce them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (oVJmc)

355 For a couple of generations, we have had two distinct groups in society, those scream, and those who don't.

Its in the last generation that the screamers have received an overabundance of validation from the Press, for that very screaming.

They are the victims, who gain power through being a victim.

I mean... really... naming a US Navy vessel for a do nothing Congresswoman because she got shot in the head? That is celebrating not ducking.

But we, the non screamers, by remaining silent, have given up the public space, so that only the screamers are heard.

That needs to change. We need to reassert that victimhood is not Heroism... is not something that SHOULD BE REWARDED.

And that will only happen when the silent majority, is no longer silent.

Posted by: Don Q at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (NgKpN)

356 It's a wonderful feeling to be know that someone will share in your
pleasure even if they don't have any benefit from it. That you can tell
them about something good in your life without being thought a
braggart.[/.i]

I believe that's called a parent.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (T6t7i)

357

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (T6t7i)

358 As a general group, agreed. However, the same group did not vote in our Society killers like SS, Medicare/Medicail, generational welfare, etc. Too young for that.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM

Absolutely g-d right. We had no fvcking say in any of that shit. We got handed the check at the end of the meal as everyone else got up from the table. Only commie pricks, trying to pry our society apart, work that point of view that 'boomers' voted these benefits upon themselves.

Either commies or millennials that spent their youth glued to some electronic device when they could have gotten a fvcking job. Or four.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (LOgQ4)

359 I'm a drooling retard. Kill me!!!
Posted by: John McCain

If we kill you now who will represent the citizens of Arizona?
Posted by: X-ray at August 09, 2018 05:29 PM (kG2lj)

I will.

Posted by: Cindy McCain, waiting in the wings at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (X00x7)

360 Most self absorbed... maybe the Jazz Age generation...

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM (ffWPP)

361 As for childhood homes: The apartment I first remembered long since was overtaken by the creep of lawlessness. The house after that, someone later took down the permanent shed in back we'd built and put in a swimming pool. The next apartment complex has also gone downhill. The townhouse after...well, that tale's been told.

You really can't go home again.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM (AM1GF)

362 350 The rule used to be, "If you lose your shit, you've lost the game."

Now it's the San Francisco city motto. Though it may not mean what they think.
Posted by: Hands at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (EzdLW)

They didn't lose their shit. It's right there on the street where they left it. They even have an app to track it.

Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM (44PTs)

363
As a general group, agreed. However, the same
group did not vote in our Society killers like SS, Medicare/Medicail,
generational welfare, etc. Too young for that.

I raised a 22 y/o, hard working, level headed daughter who is now a
pediatric nurse. Accordingly, please leave me out of said bashing.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:31 PM (I16G

Well, that's going to get a bit long in the write if he has to say "except for Calm Mentor and DamnedYankee and Jewels45 and...".
It's a herd thing unfortunately. The shots are aimed at the herd, not necessarily at us specifically. Our parents voted for all that free give away stuff because they were high on how great our country was after we'd "knocked the stuffing out of the krauts and the japs" and were racing with the ruskies up to orbit and were by God telling the world how to do things right.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM (37IEG)

364 I am amused at how a post about masculine self-restraint has degenerated into girly inter-generational name calling.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (fuK7c)

365 What he said plus add a dash of Gratitude for what you have and a Pinch of humility with a Jigger of understanding

Posted by: sOME mORON at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (ICWiF)

366 In my HOA, I wanted and delivered on letting the owners have more autonomy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 09, 2018 05:27 PM (hyuyC)

That's anathema to people who run HOAs. They truly believe that only they themselves can keep the neighborhood livable because you can't let trust those deplorable homeowners to make their own decisions about their own property.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (0Ntuf)

367 Can we name the current group the narcissist generation.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (khWYc)

368 There are no ceasefires with hamas, only hudna.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (n3R0X)

369 361. True. My childhood home - there's a goddamned oak growing up through the remnants of the roof.
Well and pump are still good, however.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (fA1SL)

370 We tend to personalize everything.

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (ffWPP)

371 The effect of the childish elderly is infuriating to me, and deeply disappointing. When I was young, if you saw someone with white hair, they were dignified, wise, and generally virtuous, if not understanding of what virtue was. You could rely on them to be the one who told kids not to swear, who would do the right thing, and who would know how to answer tough questions.

But...over the last 25 years or so, increasingly the white haired old people are getting new tats, wearing crappy clothes, swearing in public, flipping people off, smoking weed and generally acting like they did when they were 20.

Nobody wants to grow up and grow wiser, nobody wants to mature. You hear it literally everywhere: don't grow up, its a trap! I have to adult for a while, then I can get back to what I really want to do. Everyone wants to act like they're are 16 and playing video games all day. Al the stuff you do as an adult is seen as a vicious evil, at best a temporary requirement so you can get back to the good stuff. Candy drinks and acting childish.

We're not in a culture where youth is worshipped, we're in a culture where youth is considered the highest goal of humanity, and no matter what your age, you should try to act like a child, even if you are not.

Pop that viagra, pretend you're still 20. We're a nation of Peter Pans.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (39g3+)

372 Well, that's going to get a bit long in the write if he has to say "except for Calm Mentor and DamnedYankee and Jewels45 and...".

I just use the tried and true 'present company excluded, of course'.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (yQpMk)

373 347 Report: Ceasefire reached between Israel and Hamas
Truce mediated by Egypt goes into effect at 10:45pm on Thursday evening, after 24 hours of hostilities, with nearly 200 rockets fired from Gaza at Israel and the IAF attacking over 150 targets in the strip; Gaza source confirms ceasefire, Israeli sources deny it.

I hope it is not true, because if it is, it would be another historic cave by Netanyahu
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (Ydx5u)

Wasn't it just a couple of days ago that a Palestinian was giving a speech about a cease fire...

And then the rockets flew just minutes later?

Posted by: Don Q at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (NgKpN)

374 >>I am amused at how a post about masculine self-restraint has degenerated into girly inter-generational name calling.

I miss the big Titted Baristas of Yesteryear.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (lliHD)

375 to childishly quote from Bad Boys: "shit just got real"

truepundit.com/ mystery-as-doj-load-it-with-boxes-documents/
if the implications are real, a bunch of evidence is coming to DC (to get buried in endless investigation, wiped, like with a cloth?). Hopefully they won't let Mueller or any of the other DeepState mob, anywhere near it. sounds interesting, in any case.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (bT8Z4)

376

See me at 322. You just can't help it, can you?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (I16G

I am busy at 322. Sorry.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (bUjCl)

377 Can we name the current group the narcissist generation.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp

If we're not careful, they'll be the last generation.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, walking shambles at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (AM1GF)

378 Husband and I are Boomers, and our son didn't turn out to be a douchebag.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (ptqGC)

379 Chicago says otherwise
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2018 04:56 PM

Chicago homicide data from 1957 - 2015
https://preview.tinyurl.com/zkuvv8d

664, 749, 854, 928, 943, 855, 931

That's the number of homicides per year from 1988 - 1994.

468, 762, 650

That's the number of homicides per year from 2015 - 2017. 2018 is on pace to be lower than 2017.

2016 was very bad, but 1992 was still worse.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (9qZ3S)

380 352 Failsafe is on right now.
Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2018 05:35 PM (MM1XE)

Station?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (Ydx5u)

TCM

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (MM1XE)

381
ISRAELI MINISTER REGEV CALLS TO ASSASSINATE HAMAS LEADERS

Regev spoke with mayors of towns in the South, and commended them for their strength.

See that's the wrong approach. Don't announce it, just do it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (Ydx5u)

382 Wasn't it just a couple of days ago that a Palestinian was giving a speech about a cease fire...

And then the rockets flew just minutes later?
Posted by: Don Q at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (NgKpN)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:40 PM (Ydx5u)

383 Honor needs to be reintroduced into society.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 09, 2018 05:40 PM (X00x7)

384 >>There are no ceasefires with hamas, only hudna.

Yes. And that's just a puree of garbanzo beans, tahini and oil.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:40 PM (lliHD)

385 because acting like a 13 year old mean girl is now just sort of how 55
year old men, who should know a damn lot better, have decided it's
appropriate to present themselves.
.
This is CNN.

Posted by: big generator at August 09, 2018 05:40 PM (YiSMO)

386 378 Husband and I are Boomers, and our son didn't turn out to be a douchebag.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Us too, and both our Children are Conservative, fine, voting people

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2018 05:40 PM (O2RFr)

387
We now live in the post-civilization era.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (gJKXo)

388 They didn't lose their shit. It's right there on the street where they left it. They even have an app to track it.
Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM

That's what I meant. Their game is destruction, and if they clean up the shit, the destruction stops.

Posted by: Hands at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (EzdLW)

389 I don't discuss politics with any of them because it's not polite to tell your older brothers and sisters they're a bunch of stupid morons.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:23 PM (37IEG)

I reserve the right to call my idiot sisters retards.

If I can't say it to the people at work, then I get to say it to my sibs.

They are, and I do.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (7UW64)

390 Ripping on one generation's foibles or another has its value -- each generation has faults and drawbacks. But its like fighting over the bullet holes rather than the guys shooting at us. ALL of it comes from the same dark origin: a rejection of truth, justice, goodness, and beauty. An acceptance that nothing really means anything except what makes us happy, comfortable, and gives us the next orgasm.

When life has no meaning or purpose, when I'm all that matters in the world it is inevitable that everything falls apart this way. Lacking any spine, any structure, and any moral character, a society cannot and will not survive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (39g3+)

391 REMOVE PARASITES!

Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (tHmVm)

392 Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp

I expect the actual citizens who voted for pbho were a lot smaller in numbers than the published totals. And I'll bet he actually lost to Romney in 2012, but Romney was a loser. There was a lot of voter fraud in 2008, but off the scale in 2012.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (hyuyC)

393 Yes. And that's just a puree of garbanzo beans, tahini and oil.

Humus .... Stinky wallpaper paste

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2018 05:41 PM (O2RFr)

394 I am a little jealous that I'm too old for SPACE FORCE!

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)

395 Husband and I are Boomers, and our son didn't turn out to be a douchebag.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM

[X] Cancels 'runner' off list of Jane D'oh's offspring.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (LOgQ4)

396 Like my 87 year old mother saying whatever she wants, pouting and getting teary or vicious when she doesn't get exactly what she wants, being incredibly defensive when called on it. Because as she says, "I'm 87 and I don't give a shit anymore."
I do not plan to emulate her.

My mother was a verbally abusive vicious shrew long before she turned 87. It took me years to figure out that she never became an emotionally mature adult. I made a promise to myself when I was still in junior high that I would control myself, not take out bad moods on others, and emulate other adults I considered genuinely admirable. Some of my role models were men, some were women, but all were grownups. I just wish they were still around to thank.

Posted by: Basement Cat at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (3C9q2)

397 Pure poetry Ace.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (0OmEj)

398 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (39g3+)

It used to be that you had to learn some stuff, or you would never survive to old age.

Now we have made Western Society so safe, and medical science so good... that you can be a total F'n idiot, and still survive to old age.

Plus, the younger generations have created the mantra that anything old is bad... and that only new things, and thoughts, are good.

Add the two together, and you have idiot old people, who subscribe to the thoughtless patterns of the young.

Posted by: Don Q at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (NgKpN)

399 I'd put up a photo of my childhood hut but those sissy little bitch cannibals will have a fit.We had two kettles.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (EPnrI)

400 383 Honor needs to be reintroduced into society.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 09, 2018 05:40 PM (X00x7)

"She offered her honor, and I honored her offer....."

Be careful what you wish for around here.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (7UW64)

401 Husband and I are Boomers, and our son didn't turn out to be a douchebag.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM

[X] Cancels 'runner' off list of Jane D'oh's offspring.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (LOgQ4)

ouch !

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:43 PM (bUjCl)

402 Heh - Bill Clinton, George Bush, Barack Obama, 2 terms - bail outs, free lunches, government health care, FISA, multiple undeclared wars...

That wasn't our just our parents folks.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:43 PM (37IEG)

403 Part of the problem is comparing, and foolish pronouncements, like " The Greatest Generation"... those folks have/had plenty of flaws, like the rest of us...

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:43 PM (ffWPP)

404 Humus .... Stinky wallpaper paste

I will fight you.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:43 PM (yQpMk)

405 I am busy at 322. Sorry.
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:39 PM (bUjCl)

----------

That right there is exactly the kind answer I was expecting.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:43 PM (I16G8)

406 Dennis Prager's "Happiness is Moral Obligation" is all about this. Part of it is when you're unhappy, you should not inflict it on others (i.e. he's not saying you must literally be happy 24x7); control your emotions for the benefit of others:

Cults, hysteria and mass movements all appeal to the unhappy far more than to the happy. It is one more example of the genius of America's Founders to include "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" in the Declaration of Independence.

No other major civilization so enshrined happiness as a core value. This American belief in the moral and societal merit in pursuing happiness is a major reason America has developed differently than Europe. The American emphasis on happiness is one reason no fanatical political or religious movement, Left or Right, has been able to succeed in America as such movements have repeatedly succeeded in Europe.

The pursuit of happiness is not the pursuit of pleasure. The pursuit of pleasure is hedonism, and hedonists are not happy because the intensity and amount of pleasure must constantly be increased in order for hedonism to work. Pleasure for the hedonist is a drug.

But the pursuit of happiness is noble. It benefits everyone around the individual pursuing it, and it benefits humanity. And that is why happiness is a moral obligation.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2018 05:44 PM (W+vEI)

407 >>Plus, the younger generations have created the mantra that anything old is bad... and that only new things, and thoughts, are good.

You hear them saying things like this a lot while they are shopping for used records.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:44 PM (lliHD)

408 "She offered her honor, and I honored her offer....."

and all night long I was off her and on her.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:44 PM (yQpMk)

409 That right there is exactly the kind answer I was expecting.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:43 PM (I16G

same here

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (bUjCl)

410 >> Part of the problem is comparing, and foolish pronouncements, like " The Greatest Generation"... those folks have/had plenty of flaws, like the rest of us...

In their defense, it was de rigueur to at least try and hide them when company came over.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (lliHD)

411 >>>The old rules are gone now, thanks to the juvenilizing effect of social media

And the ranting behavior that takes place in twitter has bled over into real life. Hence antifa hitting people with bike locks and otherwise accosting public figures.

It used to be conventional wisdom that when on the internet, you can't see or hear visual or voice cues, you weren't physically in the same space, so things could easily escalate into a virtual shouting match in a way that could never happen in real life.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (/qEW2)

412 Did I kill the thread or is it shift change?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (yQpMk)

413 408 "She offered her honor, and I honored her offer....."

and all night long I was off her and on her.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
_______

T.S. Eliot?

Posted by: Ersatz at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (44PTs)

414 It used to be that you had to learn some stuff, or you would never survive to old age.

Now we have made Western Society so safe, and medical science so
good... that you can be a total F'n idiot, and still survive to old age.

Second look at Black Plague?

Posted by: big generator at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (YiSMO)

415 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (39g3+)

I would have to say that the older people in my congregation-and I mean much older-70's -90's are not doing any of those crazy things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (AllCR)

416 394 I am a little jealous that I'm too old for SPACE FORCE!
Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)

Cock is too large.

Posted by: emily ratajkowski, nude and loving it at August 09, 2018 05:46 PM (tHmVm)

417 From "three days of the condor"

Joubert: I don't interest myself in "why". I think more often in terms of "when", sometimes "where"; always "how much".

This quote sums up my miserable life choices. It seemed wise at the time. Now, very hollow

Posted by: REDACTED at August 09, 2018 05:46 PM (MM1XE)

418 anyone interested in a nood ? 'cause I am

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:46 PM (bUjCl)

419 In their defense, it was de rigueur to at least try and hide them when company came over.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (lliHD)

This. and I damn well better have watched my p's and q's too. because eventually company was gonna leave and.....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 09, 2018 05:47 PM (EPnrI)

420 Our parents voted for all that free give away stuff because they were high on how great our country was after we'd "knocked the stuffing out of the krauts and the japs" and were racing with the ruskies up to orbit and were by God telling the world how to do things right.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM (37IEG)

(OO)?

So folks were told that if they gave the feds their money, they would receive it back 10 fold. Voter parents are to blame..

Got it....

Nothing more than AA vote in 1965.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: LBJ at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (If3tB)

421
The Bell Curve - half the sample is below average, and the 10% on the low end, are always there.

Posted by: Wilbur Woodhousen at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (XeN7w)

422 I'm a boomer. Mostly I'm a sinner saved by grace. I didn't do much to ruin society except for that one time in East St. Louis. I did raise an Army boy and a Christian nurse. I'll let God take the credit for that because I had no clue what I was doing when they were little.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (lwiT4)

423 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (39g3+)

And even the "younger" older-50's and above behave quite reasonably, I imagine. Of course i don't know what they do online, but I don't think they're getting all shouty on twitter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (AllCR)

424 Question: I'm 51, so that makes me a Gen X'er (I think). I have a 13 year-old daughter. She's too young to be a Millennial. So what do I call her?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (MX7xj)

425 418
anyone interested in a nood ? 'cause I am

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:46 PM (bUjCl)
I'ma shift from Nood Kate Upton to Nood Charlotte McKinney - and yes

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (37IEG)

426 Ace, a great post that stirs up the commenters, in a good way. Thanks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (hyuyC)

427 I'm going to do a bit of confessing here:

I grew up really, really (what's the right word here?) "disadvantaged," in modern lingo.

Father was a (in retrospect) alcoholic womanizer. Mother was (in retrospect) severely mentally ill. They fought constantly when I was a baby, frequently ignoring me and not attending to my basic needs. They finally split up when I was seven, Dad moved out, Mom had a "nervous breakdown," stopped feeding me and my sister, Dad basically disappeared, never paid one dime of child support or alimony, while my mom descended into narcissistic madness, and for several years me and my sister were basically "street urchins," scrounging food from local communes and temples. (This was in a total hippie area, so most old Victorian houses were "open communes," where drifters could come and go; the temples were Hare Krishna temples.) My sister did not "survive" the turmoil, emotionally, and eventually fell into the drug world, never to emerge. I've been self-supporting since I was seven; never got an allowance, never was fed, never had clothes bought for me, etc. When I turned 12, my mother emerged from her psychotic haze to start charging me rent for living at home in our tiny dilapidated house. I refused to pay (with what money?), but every month she added it up, and when I finally moved out for college, she presented me with a "back rent" bill of umpty-umpty-ump thousand dollars. To this day, she still insists that I owe it to her.

Paid my way through college 100% at minimum wage jobs, and never got one iota of help from my parents or anyone else in my family.

And so when I hear anyone -- ANYONE -- complaining about "privilege" or "being disadvantaged" I have to suppress my rage and disdain. Give me fuckin' break. And in 99% of those cases, when I hear their "hard luck story," they actually were vast better off and had cushier lives than I ever did.

And yet through all of this, I never once had ever ever played the "poverty" card or the "disadvantaged" card or any of the other cards.

Fuck everyone who played the victimization game. My patience with them is used up. Completely.

Posted by: zombie at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (c+2jX)

428 Taking a beer break here at stately Peon Manor. It's 90 degrees outside, which is danged hot for Alberta. There is a lot of smoke in the air from wildfires elsewhere.

My basement is nice and cool, and I have a little fan blowing on me, too. And the beer is cold.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (LI7AQ)

429 >>And the ranting behavior that takes place in twitter has bled over into real life.

Hell, our comedy (which has merged with political punditry) is no longer about jokes, it's mostly about Snark, sick burns, and shock.

Watch Samantha Bee (on mute!) and consider: is she happy? Same with John Oliver. Sure, some of them deliver their bitchiness with a sly grin (Bill Maher, Michelle Wolf), but it's not happiness, it's superiority and condescension.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (W+vEI)

430 same here
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2018 05:45 PM (bUjCl)

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I'm sure you were. Every single one of you (insert age/class descriptor) is exactly the same. Every. One.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (I16G8)

431 424
Question: I'm 51, so that makes me a Gen X'er (I think). I have a 13
year-old daughter. She's too young to be a Millennial. So what do I call
her?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (MX7xj)
Honey, or sweetie works. Unless she's been bad - then you use all three of her names (assuming she has 3).

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (37IEG)

432 I don't know who is to blame but our declining morals and shame is the cause of our current state IMO. That's why I believe you can't have conservatism without social conservatism. Again, just IMHO.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (khWYc)

433 Tytler's Cycle of Life.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (n3R0X)

434 n00d

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (zRwJ/)

435 My dad is 89. He had a stroke a few years ago, and it changed him a bit. He is not quite as sharp as he was, but he did get a slightly younger sense of humor. He is downright entertaining, even when he tells the same damned story over and over. OTOH, he did provide for a wife and five kids and all of us are still alive and successful. He did just fine.

My mom, however, was the princess of her family growing up, and retained that prima donna bullshit all throughout our lives. She has utterly lost her memory, but she sure can remember to correct anything we say, do, or propose, entirely without any understanding of what is going on or what is appropriate. She is half a year younger than Dad.

When someone was born, or from which generation, determines very little about them. One can be a twit at any age, or an ass, or a treasure.

Posted by: tcn in AK at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (7UW64)

436 I am a little jealous that I'm too old for SPACE FORCE!
Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)

personally I don't see the need for another "Service" and another Service Admin.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2018 05:50 PM (Ydx5u)

437 Many accidents in foreign lands are insurance scams, Russia I read is one of those.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2018 05:50 PM (lxZ71)

438 58 Posted by: bluebell at August 09, 2018 04:47 PM (JJZzu)

You don't sound like Miss Manners, :^) and I have heard this complaint about "The next Door" site from others. I always think I should join it-for the sake of the church-I mean, but I can't bear the thought of that sort of puerile behavior.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2018 04:51 PM (AllCR)

I guess I'm fortunate. Our Nextdoor (CDR M's too, IIRC) is nothing but "lost cat, found dog, need a plumber, kids are breaking into unlocked cars, watch out for road construction *here*", etc. Next to *zero* emotionally-incontinent content.

But the midterms are only a few months away....

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 09, 2018 05:50 PM (cvabZ)

439
nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 09, 2018 05:50 PM (gJKXo)

440 Question: I'm 51, so that makes me a Gen X'er (I think). I have a 13 year-old daughter. She's too young to be a Millennial. So what do I call her?

I've always liked the name Amanda.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 09, 2018 05:50 PM (yQpMk)

441 I have a 13 year-old daughter. She's too young to be a Millennial. So what do I call her?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (MX7xj)

Gen Z

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2018 05:51 PM (xPl2J)

442 Honey, or sweetie works. Unless she's been bad - then you use all three of her names (assuming she has 3).
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:49 PM (37IEG)

**snort** I can count on one hand the number of times she's been "bad" in her life. Actually, my nickname for her is Bubba.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:51 PM (MX7xj)

443
Hell, our comedy (which has merged with political punditry) is no
longer about jokes, it's mostly about Snark, sick burns, and shock.

Watch Samantha Bee (on mute!) and consider: is she happy? Same with
John Oliver. Sure, some of them deliver their bitchiness with a sly grin
(Bill Maher, Michelle Wolf), but it's not happiness, it's superiority
and condescension.

Steve Martin tells about getting started in the 70s: "Everyone else was ANGRY....I was going to be SILLY."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2018 05:51 PM (oVJmc)

444 That and Russians seem to be intoxicated most of the time if you watch their films

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2018 05:51 PM (lxZ71)

445 Posted by: grammie winger at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (lwiT4)

Better late than never. The protocol Grammie.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:52 PM (khWYc)

446 360 Most self absorbed... maybe the Jazz Age generation...
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2018 05:37 PM (ffWPP)

What they called the "lost generation", all of whom are now dead? Reading about them, they seemed to have the hardest times and bad luck. Considered delinquent gangster youth, fighting in WW one, perhaps the most wretched and pointless war there was, The Great Depression hitting them hardest, and then old and decrepit just a the time "Youth!" was being glorified.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 09, 2018 05:52 PM (ujg0T)

447 367 Can we name the current group the narcissist generation.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:38 PM (khWYc)
---------------------------------------
Current?
Christopher Lasch's Culture of Narcissism --- still a must read --- was written circa 1980, IIRC.
But yeah, things have gotten progressively worse.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2018 05:52 PM (0jtPF)

448 356 It's a wonderful feeling to be know that someone will share in your
pleasure even if they don't have any benefit from it. That you can tell
them about something good in your life without being thought a
braggart.[/.i]

I believe that's called a parent.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2018 05:36 PM (T6t7i)

True, and your spouse and the grandparents when you are talking about your kids, but it is also nice to have friends that you can share things with.

I remember a time when a friend had connections so her family (kids were in elementary school) were going to attend one of those Kid's Choice Awards. Yes, for a moment I was jealous (kinda a bucket list fun thing to do sometime) but really her going had no effect on my not going. So I was really happy for her and texted her about looking for them during the show and just generally had fun being excited for them. We never talked about it but I think the fact that I didn't make them feel bad about their opportunity and was able to be happy for them is why they brought my girls some messenger bags from the event.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2018 05:52 PM (dYDe7)

449 And that is why happiness is a moral obligation.

It may be a semantic disagreement, but I prefer the word contentment to happiness. Fenelon doubtless knows this passage from St. Paul's letter to the Philippians: "I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. I can do all this through God who gives me strength."

Yes, I'm still learning from Paul, working on the "secret of being content in any and every situation."

Posted by: Basement Cat at August 09, 2018 05:53 PM (3C9q2)

450 OO)?

So folks were told that if they gave the feds their money, they would receive it back 10 fold. Voter parents are to blame..

Got it....

Nothing more than AA vote in 1965.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: LBJ at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (If3tB)
Well, if they weren't sharp enough to ask where all the money they were spending was going to come from, or watch how they assholes in Washington were buggering them with amendments and all-in-one bills then... Voter parents are to blame?
Yes. We've been lied to too. I haven't heard the shrieks as the liars are lifted from their feet to swing from the lamp posts, so I assume the blame falling on us now is probably due.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 09, 2018 05:53 PM (37IEG)

451 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2018 05:52 PM (0jtPF)

Thanks for the edumaction. The book sounds depressing though.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 09, 2018 05:54 PM (khWYc)

452 424 Question: I'm 51, so that makes me a Gen X'er (I think). I have a 13 year-old daughter. She's too young to be a Millennial. So what do I call her?
Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (MX7xj)

There likely isn't a name for the generation yet. Millenials were just "Generation Y" for quite a while before they went with Millenial. I believe I qualify as one and I'm pretty sure it only became the identifier within the last decade.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2018 05:54 PM (zRwJ/)

453 Yes, I know there's a nood thread-- but just wanted to give grammie winger a greeting-- good to see you back, and hey, teh Cubbies still rule the NL Central! Good times.

Posted by: Basement Cat at August 09, 2018 05:56 PM (3C9q2)

454 Before I left facebook I would lost lots of stuff. One day one of my friends mentioned to me that I was getting a lot of hate about a comment I made. I replied "really? Didn't know since I don't read my comments."

Posted by: David at August 09, 2018 05:57 PM (T2uZP)

455 >>Yes, I'm still learning from Paul, working on the "secret of being content in any and every situation."

Same here!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2018 06:00 PM (W+vEI)

456 Damn zombie... that's awful. Kudos to you for having your head on straight after all that.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 09, 2018 06:02 PM (dUJdY)

457 452 424 Question: I'm 51, so that makes me a Gen X'er (I think). I have a 13 year-old daughter. She's too young to be a Millennial. So what do I call her?
Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 09, 2018 05:48 PM (MX7xj)

---------

yeah, she'd be gen Z

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 09, 2018 06:02 PM (GoLZO)

458 While living in Kommiefornia my wife and I were able to get our kids to embrace conservativism by example. They saw us, struggling under the asinine tax codes, burdensome regulations, etc. carve out a comfortable life based on hard work and honesty. All of us voted for Trump.

Our grandkids will hopefully follow in our footsteps.

We did not attack others unless set upon first. And then, with no mercy.

Don't start none, there won't be none...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2018 06:05 PM (iiixZ)

459 457. Generation Zed. Zed, for Zardoz.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 09, 2018 06:06 PM (fA1SL)

460 Larry Anderson, a middling, middle relief pitcher who spent 15 years in MLB, traded about a dozen times, was a favorite in every clubhouse. Maybe someone else said it earlier, but I heard it a couple of decades ago when he pitched for the Mariners.

"You can only be young once, but you can be immature forever".

Easy to understand why he was so popular in so many MLB clubhouses.

Posted by: Shep Smith at August 09, 2018 06:13 PM (UsCnO)

461 I got a coffee card simply for showing up to work every day on time for a month.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 09, 2018 06:19 PM (d7Ww2)

462 You have much learning ahead, young Grasshopper of Spades.

Posted by: Yor, the Hunter from the Future at August 09, 2018 06:27 PM (Jj+59)

463 Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy-
1. Decide if an incident requires your personal response.
2. Think rationally about the event. (rational v irrational)
3. Emotional or behavioral response. ( healthy v
unhealthy)
4. Rationally judge your experience. (accurate v
inaccurate)
5. Cognitive effect, new philosophy. (preferable but not
absolute)

Posted by: Yor, the Hunter from the Future at August 09, 2018 06:34 PM (Jj+59)

464 There's a difference between "Growing Old Disgracefully" and never growing up.

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2018 06:54 PM (7rlrd)

465 my twatter feed is blowing up with people reposting this. great job ace. *applause*

Posted by: Nathan R. Jessup at August 09, 2018 06:57 PM (PJYv7)

466 Love this Ace! <3

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467 What a fantastic essay!

Posted by: Booknlass at August 09, 2018 09:08 PM (4LH9f)

468 So true, so funny. Great post Ace. Thx.

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469 I am glad the first generation since the fall of Rome to break the chain of social continuity, whose avarice and abandonment of morals may have irreversibly sunk all of western civilization, this time without any hope of recovery, can find it in their heart to forgive millennials for living in the hell-world they have created.

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