Late Summer Saturday Open Thread August 11 [KT]

Inventions

Hello, Horde. When you saw the photo above, did you think my topic for today was going to be plastic straws? That polka-dot one is cute, but I actually chose the photo for the ice. The recent media attention on straws seems sort of excessive to me. Yesterday I was talking to my Mom on the phone. She has been at a family reunion, and they must have talked about family history, because she mentioned how nice it was to come home to a refrigerator. She also mentioned her appreciation of "nice roads". Nice roads bring up a whole different set of inventions.

Refrigeration makes most lists of the world's important inventions. This is a pretty good one. Can you think of an important invention that they missed?

I appreciate air conditioning (a form of refrigeration) this summer. Don't care if Europeans sneer. We didn't have it for part of the summer last year. Would have been miserable with the smoke in the air this year.

Leaving Important Inventions Behind

There were no refrigerators at that New Mexico compound that major media outlets have been trying to ignore. USA Today has a new piece on the compound up today. It actually mentions that the men living there were Muslim. The townspeople nearby didn't seem to know that there were women and children living there, too.

The difficulties of the landowner where the compound was built sort of remind me of the difficulties faced by homeowners in California when squatters move into a vacant home. Though I have to wonder if the land owner wouldn't have gotten more help and attention if the residents of the compound were white.

The Imam who is apparently the grandfather of some of the kids wants custody. He says he is the one who alerted the authorities. Hmmmm.

Another invention that has been left behind in the West is forest management. Rodney Graves has a fine little rant over at Wizbang:

m a third generation natve of California's Santa Clara Valley. It was once the Orchard of the West, but has since morphed into Silicon Valley, where once we grew fruit and other produce, we now grow houses and startups. Sadly we also birthed and funded the Sierra Club, and it has come back to bite us.

Inventiveness that ruins inventions

Yesterday, my computer was attacked by one of those stupid malware thingies where a page pops up and won't close, telling you that you have a virus that is stealing your personal information and that if you try to close the window before calling their phone number, they will have to disable your computer to keep it from infecting others.

Well, I shut down the computer for several hours and checked on another one to see if there were reports of a new, real virus of this description. It seems to have been one of the fake ones. But it set my schedule back considerably.

Things could have been worse. People sure can come up with some nasty ways to mess up a good thing.

A little nicer bit of inventiveness

I think it is a college kid who set these images to music. I like it even if it is kind of geeky. Try to stay out of the way of Mountain Kings today. Got anything planned for the weekend?

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Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 09:42 AM (Q6ISu)

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Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at August 11, 2018 09:42 AM (Rz2Nc)

3 Yes I just posted so it was time for a nood.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 09:44 AM (mpXpK)

4 So maybe it's time to crack open the alcohol in some fruity drinks

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 09:44 AM (lxZ71)

5 Don't care if Europeans sneer. We didn't have it for part of the summer
last year. Would have been miserable with the smoke in the air this
year.

Euros and people in the North don't need A/C. Also CA along the coast. We never ran the A/C in the house I lived in in the Bay Area.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 09:46 AM (mpXpK)

6 I really should take up day drinking.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2018 09:46 AM (ywNoU)

7 Early in the week Denni Prager was talking to a woman visiting Leftifornia, she said she brought with her a box of straws.
If anyone needs them, mention it and sure you could be mailed some, labeled discreetly of course.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (lxZ71)

8 The difficulties of the landowner where the compound was built sort of
remind me of the difficulties faced by homeowners in California when
squatters move into a vacant home

Its CA. People who continue to live there are stupid. NV and AZ are not that far away.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

9 >>I am envious, for sure. We've been looking at places to make our Tactical retreat. Wife wants near the beach. I like it. But I'm kinda partial to not being wiped out by one storm.

Had to move to a blue state to get the nearby beach, but we're also now near a lot of family, so...worth it!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (W+vEI)

10 Now that I have coffee, I can remember what day it is.

Ends in "y", right?

Posted by: mindful webworker - cats fed, coffee poured at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (Bd48Y)

11 Those fake virus scams have been around long enough. Can't believe anyone falls for it anymore. But it must work, they keep working it over and over. Malwarebytes usually keeps it away.

Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (xE4Bu)

12 Great inventions, John Moses Browning's 1911.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (P/aDH)

13 Watching a Spanish conqueror movie, disappointed no firearms yet, matchlocks specifically

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 09:50 AM (lxZ71)

14 A fella called into a radio talk show many years ago and said the most important invention people forget about is
anesthesia, which allows all the medical miracles over the last century plus.

The radio host told the guy he was putting the audience to sleep and hung up on the caller.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2018 09:50 AM (EoRCO)

15 SC doesn't get many hurricanes that come in to the inner part of the State. Once about every 100 years. Mainly they move up the coast and get the barrier islands.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 09:50 AM (mpXpK)

16 The recent media attention on straws seems sort of excessive to me.

You have a gift for understatement. Like saying, "CNN has occasionally misrepresented the President."

Plastic straws are protected by the 2nd Amendment because they also make great blowguns (not the bendy ones, though).

Posted by: mindful webworker - spew spew spew at August 11, 2018 09:51 AM (Bd48Y)

17 Ah, San Francisco by the bay, heaven....I had a buddy in the army who couldn't wait to get back home in SF. I often wonder if he is still living there.

Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2018 09:52 AM (xE4Bu)

18 There was a hell of an industry based around ice harvesting and storing. If you had a spouse or servant in the house, and most did, you had ample opportunity to keep food cool, if you trusted your ice man.

The guy who came up with the idea of selling ice? Lost his shirt. Even in the tropics, people couldn't figure out why you'd want your drink cold.
One of the big things about factory-made (Hygeia) ice was the cleanliness angle. At a certain point, people didn't trust ice sawn out of a lake.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 09:52 AM (8ZmvG)

19 At least they didn't call it the ATM machine.

Posted by: JAS at August 11, 2018 09:53 AM (3HNOQ)

20 I would love to find which app keeps popping up ads on my tablet. I can tell almost instantly when one is coming as the tablet freezes so I quickly hit the back button. But it's annoying as hell.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 09:53 AM (lxZ71)

21 So is Kiawa Island worth the trip? I have a chance to possibly get down there before Labor Day. Never been there.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2018 09:56 AM (xJPYL)

22 >>The difficulties of the landowner where the compound was built sort of remind me of the difficulties faced by homeowners in California when squatters move into a vacant home. Though I have to wonder if the land owner wouldn't have gotten more help and attention if the residents of the compound were white.

Sounds like one of the men on the compound - married to one of the NYC Imam's daughters - owned the adjacent property. I'm not sure why they then built the compound on the other guy's property.

I saw a report that the Imam's son had been on the authorities radar for 8 years, but....the local police claimed they had to cause to go on the property to investigate the situation with the kids.
These two stories don't make sense, unless the locals had been waved off by the feds (FBI?) (i.e. locals were told it was the FBI's jurisdiction).

Wonder if we'll get the full details or this will be covered up, like so many other FBI flubs with domestic muslim terrorists...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 09:56 AM (W+vEI)

23 A/C is the best. And essential to modern life.

Fuck all the Euro and NE US enviroweenies.

I think you could do without heating during the winter.

Please don't use heaters! You're ruining the planet!

Dickweeds.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2018 09:57 AM (9q7Dl)

24 Refrigeration makes most lists of the world's important inventions. This is a pretty good one. Can you think of an important invention that they missed?

Amateur-ish list. Several on the list can be consolidated to money.

Missing: Language, boat, codified law

Likely more that make a better list.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 11, 2018 09:58 AM (di1hb)

25 How many new salamis have been invented since the refrigerator though? I'll bet it stifled inventiveness in that area.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 09:58 AM (/qEW2)

26 The radio host told the guy he was putting the audience to sleep and hung up on the caller.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2018 09:50 AM (EoRCO)

Just vanished into the ether.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 09:59 AM (y87Qq)

27 Morning!

That list of inventions failed to give Al Gore credit for inventing the internet!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 11, 2018 09:59 AM (438dO)

28 So is Kiawa Island worth the trip? I have a chance to possibly get down there before Labor Day. Never been there.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2018 09:56 AM (xJPYL)

I personally would't go to any SC beaches between 4 July and Labor day....too crowded.

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 09:59 AM (0+nbW)

29 like so many other FBI flubs"

Flubs or malice?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 11, 2018 09:59 AM (MSiSP)

30 Is there rum in those fruit drinks?
There should be rum.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 11, 2018 10:00 AM (XeN7w)

31 Ah, San Francisco by the bay, heaven....I had a buddy in the army who couldn't wait to get back home in SF. I often wonder if he is still living there.
Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2018 09:52 AM (xE4Bu)

Was his favorite band Sister Sledge, by any chance?

Posted by: Vanya at August 11, 2018 10:00 AM (l9s+S)

32 Their list is retarded, and misses the important stuff.
Television? Seriously? not wireless radio?

They miss the inventions that *precede* technology, i.e. -

mathematics, Gears, textile, plastic, paper, plow
domesticated animals, glass, the Lens, fermentation,
domesticated plants, aluminum refining, nitrogen fertilizers,
vaccines,

Posted by: retropox at August 11, 2018 10:00 AM (iuX5w)

33 21
So is Kiawa Island worth the trip? I have a chance to possibly get down there before Labor Day. Never been there.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2018 09:56 AM (xJPYL)

Its nice but expensive as Hell. Charleston is cheaper and has better night life and restaurants.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 10:00 AM (mpXpK)

34 Like the Mountain King cartoon.

That seems like it would make a great video game if adapted properly.

And...BONUS! Great, evocative, and free use music for all sorts of different musicscapes.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2018 10:02 AM (9q7Dl)

35 beavers

Posted by: The guy who started the beaver thread at August 11, 2018 10:02 AM (iuX5w)

36
Sounds like one of the men on the compound - married to one of the NYC Imam's daughters - owned the adjacent property. I'm not sure why they then built the compound on the other guy's property.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 09:56 AM (W+vEI)

To protect the Imam's son-in-law, because they all knew damned well what was going on there. "Compound? What compound? There's no compound on MY property. Go talk to the neighbors."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 10:02 AM (eXA4G)

37 I would add Plastic to the list of inventions (didn't see it mentioned in the petrol section).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 10:02 AM (W+vEI)

38 So, I was listening to "public radio" the other day and they had a story of a guy that translated Macbeth into Basque. It turns out that there are all these dialects of Basque and he was trying to unify it.
Macbeth? Really? You know how English and German were standardized? The Bible.

Posted by: JAS at August 11, 2018 10:03 AM (3HNOQ)

39 There was a hell of an industry based around ice harvesting and storing. If you had a spouse or servant in the house, and most did, you had ample opportunity to keep food cool, if you trusted your ice man.

The guy who came up with the idea of selling ice? Lost his shirt. Even in the tropics, people couldn't figure out why you'd want your drink cold.
One of the big things about factory-made (Hygeia) ice was the cleanliness angle. At a certain point, people didn't trust ice sawn out of a lake.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
...........

There is an historic farm very near to where I live that shows how life was like in the 1800's. One of the demonstrations they did was showing their ice house. The farm is adjacent to a big pond, and under the floor boards of a storage house is a huge area underground where they stored the ice.. it was very interesting.

They also do things like showing how making maple syrup from sap was done over open fires, etc... neat place.

I sure do appreciate A/C this summer!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 11, 2018 10:03 AM (438dO)

40 The last week I was down in Charleston every hotel in the city was booked solid. We were able to get our room because wifey had made the reservations months in advance.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 10:03 AM (mpXpK)

41 {yawn} 'Morning, Horde.

Thanks for the Mountain King video. Great ending.

Posted by: assgirl at August 11, 2018 10:03 AM (zFYrP)

42 Early in the week Denni Prager was talking to a woman visiting Leftifornia, she said she brought with her a box of straws.
If anyone needs them, mention it and sure you could be mailed some, labeled discreetly of course.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 09:48 AM (lxZ71)

Comrades, straws are enemies of the state on Earth Mother Gaia and destroy the environment. Human waste and needles all over the streets on the other hand are just dandy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 11, 2018 10:04 AM (SiINZ)

43 Alekhya Sai Punnamaraju is a graduate of Anna University (Guindy, Chennai) and an instructor of Vedic dance.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:04 AM (8ZmvG)

44 That list of inventions. My first thought was, who does a list of 35 anything? That's going to be strained.

I was willing to grant the wheel, and when they threw fire in late in the list, I shrugged. The concrete part was good. (I had cement-plant ancestors and live in a concrete house Grampa built, so I might be prejudiced.)

Somehow, when I got to the general "tools," I lost interest.

Posted by: mindful webworker - rocks! and clubs! at August 11, 2018 10:04 AM (Bd48Y)

45 I personally wouldn't go to any SC beaches between 4 July and Labor day....too ~~crowded~~ effing hot.

Posted by: JAS at August 11, 2018 10:04 AM (3HNOQ)

46 New SUV. Anyone who felt Rezvani's original Tank XUV (eXtreme Utility Vehicle) was a touch underdone can now stump up US$295,000 or more for a Military Edition, complete with bulletproof armor, thermal and night vision systems, a smoke bomb button and a 707-hp (527-kW) Hellcat engine.

https://bit.ly/2Mytt14

Smoke screen could come in handy for driving home from the bar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:05 AM (+y/Ru)

47 I wonder if Big Canning tried to intimidate/assassinate the early pioneers of refrigeration techniques.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 10:05 AM (/qEW2)

48 Mindful, do I understand correctly that you're in OK, too?

Posted by: assgirl at August 11, 2018 10:06 AM (zFYrP)

49 45
I personally wouldn't go to any SC beaches between 4 July and Labor day....too crowded effing hot.

Posted by: JAS at August 11, 2018 10:04 AM (3HNOQ)

Any beach you go to on the East coast is going to be hot in the Summer. But ocean doesn't get hot.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 10:06 AM (mpXpK)

50 I think toilet paper is an important invention.

Nobody wants to wipe their butt with an ice cube.

Posted by: JT at August 11, 2018 10:08 AM (o/RxS)

51 They put a Hellcat engine in an SUV?

What a crying waste!

Posted by: assgirl, embracing the suck at August 11, 2018 10:08 AM (zFYrP)

52
No need for A/C this year. Summer ended in the third week of July. August is usually hot and dry, sometimes very hot and very humid. This year it has been cold and wet.

We blame climate change.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 11, 2018 10:08 AM (XeN7w)

53 I wonder if Big Canning tried to intimidate/assassinate the early pioneers of refrigeration techniques.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 10:05 AM (/qEW2)

Of course not!

But...say, would you like to see how cat food is made and canned?

There a factory near your house.

Here's a free, VIP pass! Use it now.

Posted by: Big Canning at August 11, 2018 10:09 AM (9q7Dl)

54 Mosque Of Imam Connected To N.M. Jihadi Compound Complains News Coverage Is Anti-Muslim Propaganda

-
Yeah, boy, you teach kids to engage in school shootings as a part of your religion and, all of a sudden, you're a bad guy!

P.S. What news coverage?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:09 AM (+y/Ru)

55 *moulting back to my normal incarnation*

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:09 AM (zFYrP)

56 The general high for Myrtle Beach today is predicted to be around 90F. That is lower than what we will get here inland.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 10:09 AM (mpXpK)

57 protect the Imam's son-in-law, because they all knew damned well what was going on there. "Compound? What compound? There's no compound on MY property. Go talk to the neighbors."
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 10:02 AM (eXA4G)

We used to do "village assessments" in northern Iraq (this was 2005-06). Roll in, talk to the man in charge, see what you can sniff. It was the same story, every goddamn time, we love America but those guys up the road, wow, they're bad news. Of course, the guys up the road were usually from a different tribe and sometimes a different branch of Islam, so sic the white boys on them.

Plus they lie as easily as they breathe. If you're not one of them they have no hesitation whatsoever.

Posted by: Vanya at August 11, 2018 10:09 AM (l9s+S)

58 List of inventions is a bit biased towards the modern world. It did hit several of the major ones that I was looking for, like steel smelting and gunpowder (I like to that all modern technology is founded on the coincidence that the proper tempering heat for simple carbon steels happens to be the same heat at which steel changes colors - we'd still be back at bronze-age technology if a smith couldn't tell by looking at it that he'd reached the proper heat for a given use.)

One invention missed is the sail on ships, and by extension the development of ocean-going navigation. That has a bit more impact than stuff like credit cards, even the computer, I'd argue.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:09 AM (bZ7mE)

59 Thanks on Kiawa. Yeah it seems expensive, and I wasn't sure about crowds. while I am getting a break on the rate, I was also looking to relax. Also the 20 somethings that may be going say it looks "boring" and there is nowhere to go out. Which I thought was the point -_-

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2018 10:10 AM (xJPYL)

60 JAS, English was standardized in Elizabethan drama, thank you very much.Spanish, in Don Quixote. Italian, The Divine Comedy.
Leaves the Lord responsible for German. You want to blame Him for that?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:10 AM (8ZmvG)

61 >>>Can you think of an important invention that they missed?

Silicone.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian's Butt Cheeks at August 11, 2018 10:10 AM (/qEW2)

62
I wonder if Big Canning tried to intimidate/assassinate the early pioneers of refrigeration techniques.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 10:05 AM (/qEW2)

Big Salt probably was in on it too.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 10:11 AM (P/aDH)

63 Sails. Yes. Good one, Grey Fox.

Posted by: retropox at August 11, 2018 10:12 AM (iuX5w)

64 59 Also the 20 somethings that may be going say it looks "boring" and there is nowhere to go out. Which I thought was the point -_-

Posted by: Marcus T at August 11, 2018 10:10 AM (xJPYL)

Myrtle Beach has a lot of attractions that would appeal to them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 10:12 AM (mpXpK)

65 Big Salt probably was in on it too.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 10:11 AM (P/aDH)

Big Salt pretty much singlehandedly funded the PDT campaign. It's paid off well for them.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:12 AM (y87Qq)

66 "Tools" is kind of a cop-out category, too.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:12 AM (bZ7mE)

67 Leaves the Lord responsible for German. You want to blame Him for that?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:10 AM (8ZmvG)

NICHT GEFEAREN! ICH HABE SCHONE TIDINGS!

Posted by: Arcangel Gabriel, terrifying shepherds at August 11, 2018 10:13 AM (l9s+S)

68 Propofol is an anesthetic agent with a milky white appearance of the injectable form.

Lest We Forget - a limerick

The latest in modern anesthesia
Is guaranteed surely to please ya
Propofol is milky white
Makes a person go "night-night"
That's why they call it "Milk of Amnesia"

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 10:14 AM (m45I2)

69 One other thing about the beaches in the SE in the Summer, during the day there is a prevailing wind always coming in from the ocean that will help cool you off.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 10:16 AM (mpXpK)

70 48 Mindful, do I understand correctly that you're in OK, too?
Posted by: assgirl

"Who's assgirl??"

You had me going there, creeper, for a moment.

Yeah, I'm up in the corner, near Kansas. You don't remember me whistling and celebrating when you moved here? I've enjoyed your easy assimilation into this Great State.

Where generally are you, anyway? I haven't been down to SE OK in decades. Been meaning to go again.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at August 11, 2018 10:16 AM (Bd48Y)

71 You would have thought they'd have noticed to include glass since it was featured in 11 of their accompanying photos.

Posted by: Dusty at August 11, 2018 10:18 AM (EQmEb)

72 the only structure I have on the farm from before my grandparents moved here (1911) is an old ice house, like 12' x 16'. Not sure where they got the ice, but think they put a lot of sawdust around it to keep it into summer.

The 35 inventions list is interesting ... the pump would be a big one, bringing water up from 100 feet down was important for many farms, especially if there was no nearby spring. Many churches provide pumps to places in Africa as a way to help communities ... setting up a town source and an overseer to keep it working and clean.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2018 10:18 AM (bT8Z4)

73 The development of large refrigeration was underwritten at yuge expense by the brewing industry, who had run out of caves to make the newly-popular "light" beer. Quotation marks used advisedly.
But a lot of that coolth was used to produce ice to go in the boxcars that were used to ship "premium" beer. Two sides to every argument.
Either way, no beer, no refrigeration plants, and by extension no home fridge and no air conditioning.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:18 AM (8ZmvG)

74 today there's a bluegrass band at Thornbury farm market. Maybe the annual corn boil at the elementary school.

Posted by: kallisto at August 11, 2018 10:18 AM (4mt4I)

75 Maybe the annual corn boil at the elementary school.
Posted by: kallisto at August 11, 2018 10:18 AM (4mt4I)

"Corn boil" sounds like a folksy, old-timey ailment.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:20 AM (y87Qq)

76 >>Mosque Of Imam Connected To N.M. Jihadi Compound Complains News Coverage Is Anti-Muslim Propaganda

CAIR STATEMENT MAD LIBS
Mosque connected to __[jihadi name]_____ complains News Coverage Is Anti-Muslim Propaganda.

Also, Imam says that __[jiadi name]__ rarely attended services and appeared crazy. His family wishes privacy in this matter, and the Imam warns that the community should be on the lookout for backlash.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 10:21 AM (W+vEI)

77 Speaking of Big Canning, I saw Cheryl Canning in "Hello Dali" back in '85.

It was a musical a tribute to Spanish painters.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 10:22 AM (m45I2)

78 Transistors? F*ck dat shit. Transistors are for pussies.

Posted by: Charles Babbage at August 11, 2018 10:23 AM (/qEW2)

79 LOL! I aggravated Ill-Tempered Cur yesterday and he called me an assboy. I believe it was hogmartin who informed him I identify as a girl. There being not much else to do about it, I wore the label proudly.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:23 AM (zFYrP)

80 Greetings:

Was this the lowest key A-bombings week ever ???

I, thankfully, didn't come across even one Hiroshima grandma-san festival. And this after I had gotten my calendar so correctly aligned.

PBS did manage to inflict a report about some elderly Japanese professor who had to visit Hanford, Wash. to see whence cameth the joy juice, but that was pretty much it.

Needless but said, I'm sticking with my Father's assessment that the only thing wrong with the A-bombings was that "we only had two".

Posted by: 11B40 at August 11, 2018 10:24 AM (evgyj)

81 Ah, San Francisco by the bay, heaven....I had a buddy in the army who couldn't wait to get back home in SF. I often wonder if he is still living there.
Posted by: Colin at August 11, 2018 09:52 AM (xE4Bu)

Was his favorite band Sister Sledge, by any chance?
Posted by: Vanya at August 11, 2018 10:00 AM (l9s+S)

I do not understand the appeal of San Francissy. Even if the place wasn't overrun with leftish douchebags and fruits. It has water on one side, but you can't do anything with it! It's icewater. You die of hypothermia just sticking your toes in it. And that's in the middle of summer!

That bridge is kind of cool looking, but I recall being on it when a massive fog rolled in, and it was literally impossible to see the car in front of me.

No thanks. I don't really care for beaches anyway. Just a pile of filth that people lay on, then get into filthy water to partially wash off of themselves.

That's why God invented pools. So people could swim without being overrun by the creeping crud.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)

82 My mother-in-law, 88, got pulled in by that pop-up virus scam last month, called the number, and then gave them her bank account info. We had bought her a ChromeBook to specifically prevent these virus incidents, as her previous Windows PC had been zombified and was serving pr0n. Took my wife almost two weeks to freeze all of her accounts, PowerClean the Chromebook, and reset all of her passwords.

Saddest part is that I ran the incubator that helped start up the company GrandPad, but I just can't get her to make the change.

Posted by: motionview at August 11, 2018 10:24 AM (pYQR/)

83 I'm not far, MW. I'm in the Cookson Hills, just a bit south of Tahlequah.

My apologies for not remembering the cheering. I had so much help from so many people I couldn't keep everyone straight. I still get up every morning and embrace the Horde for getting me here. It's kind of unbelievable even yet.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:26 AM (zFYrP)

84 The invention of the lumber Mill was a pretty important invention. The Barnwood Builders show regularly talks about how to make round logs square with an Axe. That had to be a sucky job.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 10:26 AM (P/aDH)

85 CAIR STATEMENT MAD LIBS
Mosque connected to __[jihadi name]_____ complains News Coverage Is Anti-Muslim Propaganda.

Also, Imam says that __[jiadi name]__ rarely attended services and appeared crazy. His family wishes privacy in this matter, and the Imam warns that the community should be on the lookout for backlash.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 10:21 AM (W+vEI)

LOL, you nailed it.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at August 11, 2018 10:26 AM (Rz2Nc)

86 Also, Imam says that __[jiadi name]__ rarely attended services and appeared crazy. His family wishes privacy in this matter, and the Imam warns that the community should be on the lookout for backlash from tomorrow's "incident".
Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2018 10:21 AM (W+vEI)

FTFY

Posted by: Chairman Hrothgar at August 11, 2018 10:27 AM (n9EOP)

87 LOL! I aggravated Ill-Tempered Cur yesterday....

Pfff. With a name like that? Likely story...

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:27 AM (bZ7mE)

88 You didn't invent that. The only invention necessary was government.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (/qEW2)

89 That's why God invented pools. So people could swim without being overrun by the creeping crud.

******

Yes. That and a place for people to urinate surreptitiously without having to run to the locker room.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (m45I2)

90 Needless but said, I'm sticking with my Father's assessment that the only thing wrong with the A-bombings was that "we only had two".
Posted by: 11B40 at August 11, 2018 10:24 AM (evgyj)

There was a severely underwhelming mention of the anniversary of the Gentle Giant getting iced on the street by the cop.

Here in St. Louie, it's all about the invasion of white guys (and Tiger Woods) this week. There's even a blimp!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (cY3LT)

91 LOL! I aggravated Ill-Tempered Cur yesterday and he called me an assboy. I believe it was hogmartin who informed him I identify as a girl. There being not much else to do about it, I wore the label proudly.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:23 AM (zFYrP)

I don't think you really aggravated him, he was just goofing because the topic was people being snippy.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=376515#c29279740

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (y87Qq)

92 @50 There is an ad from the 1930' s for splinterless toilet paper. What does that say about earlier versions?

Posted by: chuckR at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (bRvKP)

93
Really craving a rum drink.
Would settle for Irish Coffee.
Only thing in the cooler is stale, over-carbonated Miller lite.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (XeN7w)

94 The guy listed the compass, so probably felt he had navigation pretty well nailed. That would be wrong though, since navigation is (ready?) global.

The Portos were doing directions pretty well using sun tables, under Henry the gol-darned Navigator. But to get somewhere reliably, you need all the applied math of chart-making, plus star shots and timekeeping. And, LORAN. Oops.

We presume a great deal with "invention." Every one has some others behind it, and they don't all become obsolete when the New Thing pops up.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (8ZmvG)

95 by: 11B40 at August 11, 2018 10:24 AM (evgyj

If the US had taken Japan by invasion, the country as constituted would not exist anymore. Oh sure, there would be a place called Japan with Japanese people in it, but that would be it.

Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (l9s+S)

96 I thought the whiffetree/whippletree was a major invention? Didn't read all the comments though so...

Posted by: Chairman Hrothgar at August 11, 2018 10:29 AM (n9EOP)

97 That's why God invented pools. So people could swim without being overrun by the creeping crud.

******

Yes. That and a place for people to urinate surreptitiously without having to run to the locker room.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (m45I2)

Exactly. And it's proven science that the creeping crud isn't as dangerous to wallow in, if you don't know it's there. Being in the ocean, you are literally swimming in a toilet.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:30 AM (cY3LT)

98 Being in the ocean, you are literally swimming in a toilet.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:30 AM (cY3LT)

The last 20% of the ocean is backwash. It's a scientific fact.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:31 AM (y87Qq)

99 Only thing in the cooler is stale, over-carbonated Miller lite.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (XeN7w)

Poor guy...we'll start a gofundme for you.

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 10:32 AM (0+nbW)

100 Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (y87Qq)

That was why I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But I was disappointed that he didn't put more effort into labeling me properly. I don't mind being called an "ass" but I resent the hell out of being labeled a "boy".

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:32 AM (zFYrP)

101 The invention of the lumber Mill was a pretty important invention. The Barnwood Builders show regularly talks about how to make round logs square with an Axe. That had to be a sucky job.

I suspect that it wasn't all that bad, as long as you had a properly sharpened broadaxe. The broadaxe was specially made for the job, and old hand tools made before power tools took over tended to be pretty efficient - they had to be, if they were going to be worth doing.

The really sucky job was being the bottom man running a pitsaw. All that sawdust being generated right over your head....

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:33 AM (bZ7mE)

102 >>>the Imam warns that the community should be on the lookout for backlash.

Backlash? You mean like in Pakistan or Africa where a Christian is falsely accused of defaming the Prophet and then a mob burns down and slaughters the entire village? I'm glad the Imam would reject such a barbaric idea.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 10:33 AM (/qEW2)

103 The last time I went to the beach I stayed ten minutes, packed everything up and went home to swim in the pool.

BurtTC was right.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:33 AM (zFYrP)

104 Poor guy...we'll start a gofundme for you.

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Nah. It's okay. I'll make some pruno.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 11, 2018 10:33 AM (XeN7w)

105 Looked through the list. Sure, okay. What about PLUMBING? It made civilization possible.

Posted by: Rosasharn at August 11, 2018 10:34 AM (PzBTm)

106 82. O.M.G. --- I remember when mom was still here she used to blame *me* when I warned her about scams. And she was only in her 60s.

Posted by: kallisto at August 11, 2018 10:34 AM (4mt4I)

107
LOL! I aggravated Ill-Tempered Cur yesterday and he called me an assboy. I believe it was hogmartin who informed him I identify as a girl. There being not much else to do about it, I wore the label proudly.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:23 AM (zFYrP)

I don't think you really aggravated him, he was just goofing because the topic was people being snippy.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=376515#c29279740
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:28 AM (y87Qq)

Didn't know I'd caused such a kerfuffel. That's what I get for not sticking around yesterday.

Yeah, like hogmartin said, I was just screwing around, riffing on the idea of Teh Horde being snippy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 10:34 AM (eXA4G)

108 There is an ad from the 1930' s for splinterless toilet paper. What does that say about earlier versions?

*******

Been There Done That - a limerick

When using an outhouse in winter
You want to be right in the center
And you don't want the runs
'Cause you'll freeze off your buns
And be sure to watch out for the splinters!

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 10:35 AM (m45I2)

109 I don't mind being called an "ass" but I resent the hell out of being labeled a "boy".
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:32 AM (zFYrP)

bluebell and Muad'dib call me "Princess". Wanna trade?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:35 AM (y87Qq)

110
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:33 AM (bZ7mE)
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Skinning logs with a drawknife ranks near the top of my miserable jobs list.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:35 AM (JZFfi)

111 ron Mike Golf at August 11, 2018 09:58 AM

You have a point about language and codified law being important inventions. But it's a site about engineering.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 11, 2018 10:36 AM (BVQ+1)

112 Fark MOAR FRUITS.....when is a banana just a banana?
Answerver when it's a ceegar in the hands of El Presidente Clitoris.

Posted by: saf at August 11, 2018 10:36 AM (5IHGB)

113 I've met illtempered cur irl and the name suits him to a T....

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:37 AM (kufk0)

114 (((IllTemperedCur)))

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:38 AM (zFYrP)

115 Iron Mike Golf at August 11, 2018 09:58 AM

You have a point about language and codified law being important inventions. But it's a site about engineering.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 11, 2018 10:36 AM (BVQ+1)

Ah, engineers. So they don't know anything about human interaction.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:38 AM (cY3LT)

116 Skinning logs with a drawknife ranks near the top of my miserable jobs list.

Really? I love drawknives. Definitely on my top 10 list of tools I'd take to cut a home out of the wilderness.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:38 AM (bZ7mE)

117 what aggravates me and makes me ill tempered? reading stuff like 'unindicted HAMAS co-conspirator CAIR'.

They should have been indicted a decade ago, and every member thrown into a north Alaskan prison. Preferable when the Ramadan covers 21 June when the sun doesn't set, so they can't eat for days.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 11, 2018 10:38 AM (N1ZXu)

118 How do ya make a fruit punch?...

I thought so....never.

Posted by: saf at August 11, 2018 10:38 AM (5IHGB)

119 They used a tool called a "froe" to split lumber if they were doing it by hand. It is a long bladed knife you pound into a log.. gives you nice straight boards.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 11, 2018 10:39 AM (438dO)

120 Nothing nuclear or atomic on that list. It may not figure prominently in people's lives on a day to day basis, but it's an impressive technology, from hydrogen bombs to reactors.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 10:39 AM (/qEW2)

121 bluebell and Muad'dib call me "Princess". Wanna trade?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:35 AM (y87Qq)
You would trade "Princess" for "assboy"? Oh, wait. I see the problem.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:40 AM (zFYrP)

122
Really? I love drawknives. Definitely on my top 10 list of tools I'd take to cut a home out of the wilderness.
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:38 AM (bZ7mE)
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Oh, absolutely an essential tool in the wilderness. Using them just kills something in my elbows, though.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:40 AM (JZFfi)

123 The last time I went to the beach I stayed ten minutes, packed everything up and went home to swim in the pool.

BurtTC was right.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:33 AM (zFYrP)

Yeah, that's about it. Ten minutes on a beach. Or make it 20, if the water is warm enough to dip one's toes in.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:41 AM (cY3LT)

124 Nothing nuclear or atomic on that list. It may not figure prominently in people's lives on a day to day basis, but it's an impressive technology, from hydrogen bombs to reactors.
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We wouldn't know what the exact time was without atomic...

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:41 AM (kufk0)

125 creeper: the Cookson Hills, just a bit south of Tahlequah.

Ah. I had thought you were much further south than that. Heck, you're practically in shouting distance.

...I had so much help from so many people I couldn't keep everyone straight.

Wasn't like you were busy at the time or anything.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at August 11, 2018 10:41 AM (Bd48Y)

126
You have a point about language and codified law being important inventions. But it's a site about engineering.
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My grandmothers used to say something was the 'greatest thing since sliced bread'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 11, 2018 10:41 AM (MIKMs)

127 You would trade "Princess" for "assboy"? Oh, wait. I see the problem.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:40 AM (zFYrP)

Hey wait, the deal was you didn't like being called boy. How did it get back to "assboy"?

"Assboy" wasn't on the table.

*waits patiently for teh hoard*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:42 AM (y87Qq)

128 Over 100 poats, and nobody mentions fapping? Who are you people.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 11, 2018 10:43 AM (5jVnA)

129 I've brought this up in front of SJWs, and it always gets them going. GMO foods, increasing crop yield. The stuff that maybe but we're not quite sure kill you in 50 years. Reduced prices, more crops out of less acreage. Pretty good invention.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 11, 2018 10:43 AM (xzqr4)

130 They did miss some evolutionary steps that, while no longer much used, were great leaps forward at the time. For example, the bow and arrow and the atlati.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:44 AM (+y/Ru)

131 ??? You want to be known as "assGIRL"? There would appear to be no gain in that one. Well, other than going from Princess to Ass.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:44 AM (zFYrP)

132 You would trade "Princess" for "assboy"?

Kevin Spacey might.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 11, 2018 10:44 AM (N1ZXu)

133 We wouldn't know what the exact time was without atomic...
Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:41 AM (kufk0)

Pixy's clock must be spring wound. It's already 2 minutes behind.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 10:45 AM (/qEW2)

134 They used a tool called a "froe" to split lumber if they were doing it by hand. It is a long bladed knife you pound into a log.. gives you nice straight boards.

I actually have one I picked up at the local flea market after years of looking. I have yet to use it, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (bZ7mE)

135 Poats....sounds like breakfast food.

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (0+nbW)

136
I've met illtempered cur irl and the name suits him to a T....
Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:37 AM (kufk0)

ONLY ill-tempered??? Damn. I need to up my game.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (eXA4G)

137 You would trade "Princess" for "assboy"? Oh, wait. I see the problem.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:40 AM (zFYrP)

Hey wait, the deal was you didn't like being called boy. How did it get back to "assboy"?

"Assboy" wasn't on the table.

*waits patiently for teh hoard*
Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:42 AM (y87Qq)

The funny thing is, an "assman" is universally known to be a fella who likes the ladies with the big buttes (and he cannot lie). That, or he's a proctologist.

An "assboy" though... something completely different.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (cY3LT)

138 chi-Town Jerry, a froe has a blade that is set at 90 degrees from the handle so you can hold it in place with one hand and knock it down through the bolt with a club or a maul to make a shingle.

But you need really clean, straight grain in your wood. Cedar is best because it lasts for ever.

Froes don't have to be particularly sharp, which is why we get the old saying, "dull as a froe"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (2K6fY)

139 Btw...Bleu the kitty is doing well. I found out that cat fud is EXPENSIVE!!! Of course she prefers Tiki cat. It May be cheaper to feed her a human grade raw food diet, just not convenient. I'm looking at recipes that I can portion and freeze... I'm such a sucker....

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (kufk0)

140 I've brought this up in front of SJWs, and it always gets them going. GMO foods, increasing crop yield.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 11, 2018 10:43 AM (xzqr4)

Norman Borlaug did more for humanity every day before breakfast than every SJW ever, and they know it. That's why.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:47 AM (y87Qq)

141 Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (c1nDO)

Oh, no. Thank you, wds, for relaying the news. Does Fen know?

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:47 AM (zFYrP)

142 Atlati.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:44 AM (+y/Ru)

Is that the plural?

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 10:47 AM (0+nbW)

143 Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:46 AM (kufk0)
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You have a new kitty? Congratulations!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:48 AM (JZFfi)

144 And since it is an engineering list, fapping SHOULD be on the list.

No BS inventions?

Transistor, laser, microscope, gunpowder, steel, specifically, cheap steel.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 11, 2018 10:48 AM (5jVnA)

145 " and the Imam warns that the community should be on the lookout for backlash. "Posted by: Lizz

eventually the lack of "backlash" against the economic/jihadist migrant invasion, supported by open borders billionaires, could result in our demise.

Since their groups (La Raza, Antifa, BLM, etc.) are praised for "backlash" against America, protecting America is essential. Stand down orders are how we allow the enemy (including Hillary and her FBI protectors) to infiltrate. The whole Trump/Russia frame job is "DeepState Backlash" against America electing a president that is an existential threat to their mafia.

While generic backlash against groups would be "wrong", it is not wrong when the left uses such group/gang warfare tactics as the basis of their party (identity politics). "they send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue" ... The Untouchables.

But it is the shadow billionaires trying to invoke chaos, so we still have time to give peace a chance, and show Trump as the uniter, in the face of leftist hate.

just thought a good photoshop opportunity ... reverse the iconic photo of the 60's flower child putting a flower in the barrel of the National Guard guy's gun ... put Trump as the one with the olive branch of peace, Mueller/Brennan/Jeong ... as Stasi cops ... or some such twist.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2018 10:48 AM (bT8Z4)

146 Well, other than going from Princess to Ass.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:44 AM (zFYrP)

(Flintstones bird shrug)

"It's a living!"

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:49 AM (y87Qq)

147 135 Poats....sounds like breakfast food.
Posted by: BignJames

Just yesterday, for no reason at all, I was wondering if they still made Poats Toaties.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Count Vanilla with marshmellows at August 11, 2018 10:49 AM (Bd48Y)

148 Might be getting older but give me ocean waves and my boogie board and I would be content for hours.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 10:50 AM (lxZ71)

149 Can I add dowsing rods to the list of inventions?

I know about 50% of the population believes they're a myth but they're not. Anyone can do it.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:50 AM (zFYrP)

150 lin-duh, just make sure she has taurine in her diet.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2018 10:50 AM (HZVZo)

151 Just yesterday, for no reason at all, I was wondering if they still made Poats Toaties.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Count Vanilla with marshmellows at August 11, 2018 10:49 AM (Bd48Y)

They're on the shelf next to Froot Noods.

(no there is not a nood poat)

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (y87Qq)

152 Inventions? How about the ballpoint pen?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (JZFfi)

153 If I have to look at the picture of sweet punch one more time I'm gonna barf. What a waste of fruit!

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (zFYrP)

154 James Burke did a program called Connections, that traced development of pretty important things through, generally, from the enlightenment to what we use today.
I always loved that part of history, what made what possible.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (2K6fY)

155 Dowsing is not a myth, but, no, not anyone can do it.The learning is over in "witch doctor" territory.
My dad can do it, dammit. I can't.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:52 AM (8ZmvG)

156
154 James Burke did a program called Connections, that traced development of pretty important things through, generally, from the enlightenment to what we use today.
I always loved that part of history, what made what possible.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (2K6fY)
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I love that show!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:52 AM (JZFfi)

157 Little Known Muldoon Fact #13,722

The inventor of the atlatl later sold the rights to a traveling aborigine for a bowl of potage and ended up dying penniless in the jaws of a sabre-toothed tigre.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (m45I2)

158 Weasel,
It's actually my daughters cat but y'all know what that means....
First cat I've ever "owned" being more of a dog person. But everyone, including the dog, is enjoying her. Ok, maybe not the dog but at least she has shown no aggression including with food. The kitten will sit in her food bowl and the dog won't go near it. Being a terrier that has never been around a cat I was really worried about that.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (kufk0)

159 154 James Burke did a program called Connections, that traced development of pretty important things through, generally, from the enlightenment to what we use today.
I always loved that part of history, what made what possible.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (2K6fY)

That series is exactly what came to mind when I mentioned money. Loved it.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (di1hb)

160 82, motionview - ugh, that is just awful. I did tech support for my mom before she passed, I had it drilled into her head she wasn't to talk to ANYONE except me about her computer. I had to wipe and reinstall her hard drive a couple times, all those scammers should end up in the ninth level of hel1

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (aNkiB)

161 Atlati.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:44 AM (+y/Ru)

Is that the plural?

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Why, I atlatl . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (+y/Ru)

162 Inventions? How about the ballpoint pen?

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:51 AM (JZFfi)

Infernal combustion engine?

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (0+nbW)

163 Renowned hostess Philomena Cunk does an excellent show that reminds me a lot of James Burke's Connections:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvpbW7JRu0Q

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 10:55 AM (y87Qq)

164
The only reason I originally used "assboy" is because I was re-reading one of John Ringo's novels where it was used extensively.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 10:55 AM (eXA4G)

165 @11 Pesky virus windows that don't shut down? Unplug the internet. In Windows, bring up the task manager and kill the process. Then spend the money to get the full version of Malwarebytes for real time protection. It plays fairly well with MS Security Essentials.
For my office systems, I invested in a Sonicwall with their cloud based security software guarding the gate. You can add e-mail scanning too. Not cheap compared to a regular router/modem (4X-5X the cost, plus the cost of the software subscriptions), but one avoided incident pays for it all. It's not just pron either; I've shut that down at the gateway, as well as shutting off access to about half the world's domain extensions. What really prompted this was new requirements for controlled unclassified information. That is stuff that isn't classified but still of value to foreign digital sneak thieves and the feds finally thought, say, those guys are stealing everything not digitally nailed down.

Posted by: chuckR at August 11, 2018 10:55 AM (bRvKP)

166 What happened to wmds' post at 10:46?

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 10:55 AM (zFYrP)

167 23 A/C is the best. And essential to modern life.

Fuck all the Euro and NE US enviroweenies.

I think you could do without heating during the winter.

Please don't use heaters! You're ruining the planet!

Dickweeds.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2018 09:57 AM (9q7Dl)

Amen and Amen. I lived in Athens, Greece for two years without A/C, and was miserable the entire time. Except for the one winter that was really cold, and I only had heat for two hours per day, because that's all the landlord would provide.

The heat was far worse. I also had to dress in business suits, panty hose, and evening wear for functions, and that was misery in 90 degree heat with humidity on top of that. The Embassy had A/C, and all the FSN's whinged about it making them sick.

They never commented on the numerous cases of heat stroke and heat related deaths throughout Greece.

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 10:55 AM (V+V48)

168 Infernal combustion engine?
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Is that what they use down in Hell?

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:56 AM (kufk0)

169 Should get back out and do yard work, rained this morning so cutting grass and weeds with tractor isn't possible yet but have branches to cut up and tree trunk to chainsaw.

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 10:56 AM (lxZ71)

170 If my memory serves me correctly, one invention that really ought to make these kinds of lists is the technique of casting cannon barrels as a single piece and then boring them out by rotating the whole barrel against a stationary drill bit instead of casting them complete with bore. Nice little mid-18th century innovation that led to the development of lighter and more mobile artillery pieces.

It also made it possible to bore out very precise cylinders that could be tightly mated to pistons, making the steam engine, and therefore the industrial revolution, a technological possibility.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 10:56 AM (bZ7mE)

171 Weasel,
It's actually my daughters cat but y'all know what that means....
First cat I've ever "owned" being more of a dog person. But everyone, including the dog, is enjoying her. Ok, maybe not the dog but at least she has shown no aggression including with food. The kitten will sit in her food bowl and the dog won't go near it. Being a terrier that has never been around a cat I was really worried about that.
Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (kufk0)

Having one dog (and more than one cat), I can say in my house it's generally the other way around. The dog has to worry about being hassled, and having her food confiscated from under her nose.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 10:57 AM (cY3LT)

172 CASE CLOSED: Head of commission investigating Parkland shooting says armed staffer could have stopped Nikolas Cruz

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So could have an armed Broward County Sheriff's Deputy but that's just crazy talk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 10:58 AM (+y/Ru)

173 Gave my uber-lib mother and nephew my rant about plastic straws yesterday. I think I won them over on the "sheer stupidity" and "mob mentality" vectors.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 11, 2018 10:58 AM (0KG1m)

174 158 Weasel,
It's actually my daughters cat but y'all know what that means....
First cat I've ever "owned" being more of a dog person. But everyone, including the dog, is enjoying her. Ok, maybe not the dog but at least she has shown no aggression including with food. The kitten will sit in her food bowl and the dog won't go near it. Being a terrier that has never been around a cat I was really worried about that.
Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 10:53 AM (kufk0)
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WeaselDog is really good with the WeaselCats. I was worried about that too but WD seems more confused by them than anything else. Again, congrats!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 10:59 AM (JZFfi)

175 " GMO foods, increasing crop yield. The stuff that
maybe but we're not quite sure kill you in 50 years. Reduced prices,
more crops out of less acreage. Pretty good invention.Posted by: bill in arkansas

imo they are pretty sure it will NOT kill you, and it is certainly safer than the previous chemicals/methods used for controls.

I'm imagining a maybe 20' x 20' solar panel, under which is a weed killing laser robot, wandering the fields identifying weeds (weed version of facial recognition) and zapping them one by one. With cameras/chips/batteries being small now, it would be fairly easy, once the software is worked out.

I'm thinking field crops, but it would work for various horticultural fields as well ... they are working on it.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2018 10:59 AM (bT8Z4)

176 Truly great inventions that changed humanity

The pillow
The three-button mouse
Cracker Jack™
Hamster exercise balls
FM radio
Mr Coffee™
Sunblock
Animated GIFs
Hummingbird feeders
3D glasses
The wine bottle punt
Pixy

Posted by: mindful webworker - to be continued at August 11, 2018 10:59 AM (Bd48Y)

177 I just noticed I haven't complained about how the list is illegitimate yet. OK, here goes.

Transistors, computers, and the world wide web are not good choices, except for transistors. Transistors open up all of solid-state logic. Computers are a subset of solid-state logic. The world wide web is a footnote in the telecoms fraction of computers which are a subset of solid-state logic. 25 years ago, USENET and Gopher would have been given the same place on the list as the web has today. 25 years from now, something else* will occupy its place.

* my money's on the invention of the self-skinning irradiated wasteland squirrel.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 11:00 AM (y87Qq)

178 I always knew dogs love the cat food and "tootsie rolls" but I never knew that cats would eat dog food since they are supposed to be strict carnivores. Bleu will get in and eat a few pieces. She'll also eat potato chips....

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 11:00 AM (kufk0)

179 Skip, embrace the excuse and play with us for a while.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:01 AM (zFYrP)

180 I read a few years ago where some PC school district tried to get a history text that omitted any mention of Thomas Edison so that they could list minority inventors instead.

Their inventions? The traffic light, and the paper bag.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:02 AM (/qEW2)

181 Assboy?
Do we have some John Ringo/Kildar fans here?

Posted by: Schadenfreude at August 11, 2018 11:02 AM (VWE5i)

182 "but I never knew that cats would eat dog food since they are supposed to be strict carnivores"

One of our Italian cats would go bonkers trying to get to and eat cold sauerkraut.

Loved the stuff.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 11, 2018 11:02 AM (wldC6)

183 She'll also eat potato chips....
Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 11:00 AM (kufk0)

OMG so do I! I feel such a connection with your small gray kitten now, you should pretty much give her to me on general principle. I'll send you pictures once in a while.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (y87Qq)

184
They never commented on the numerous cases of heat stroke and heat related deaths throughout Greece.
Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 10:

I've always heard their behavior towards teh wimminz leaves something to be desired. Was that true in your experience?

Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (l9s+S)

185 Speaking of wacky dog antics, WD rolled in fresh cow poo last weekend. She was pretty happy with herself until the garden hose came out.

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (JZFfi)

186 For large building timbers, I don't think they squared with a drawknife.There was the adze, which you (cringe) swung between your legs.I won't even pick one up.

If you're from Rhode Island, you'll enjoy Leonard Read's "I, Ballpoint."
That whole business about the Space Pen and the Russian pencil was a hoax.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (8ZmvG)

187 Their inventions? The traffic light, and the paper bag.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:02 AM (/qEW2)

What about paper? China! Diverse!

Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 11:04 AM (l9s+S)

188

Posted by: mindful webworker - to be continued at August 11, 2018 10:59 AM (Bd48Y)

Poat Tosties

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 11:05 AM (0+nbW)

189 "Willis Carrier took a job that would result in the invention of the first modern electrical air conditioning unit. While working for the Buffalo Forge Company in 1902, Carrier was tasked with solving a humidity problem that was causing magazine pages to wrinkle at Sackett-Wilhelms Lithographing and Publishing Company in Brooklyn.

Through a series of experiments, Carrier designed a system that controlled humidity using cooling coils and secured a patent for his "Apparatus for Treating Air" which could either humidify (by heating water) or dehumidify (by cooling water) air. As he continued testing and refining his technology, he also devised and patented an automatic control system for regulating the humidity and temperature of air in textile mills.

It wasn't long before Carrier realized that humidity control and air conditioning could benefit many other industries, and he eventually broke off from Buffalo Forge, forming Carrier Engineering Corporation with six other engineers."

https://www.energy.gov/articles/history-air-conditioning

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 11, 2018 11:05 AM (yQpMk)

190 Some years back, Europeans suffered a huge loss of life during a summer when the temperatures hit new heights..but I remember the French going on their yearly vacations (all of August?) and leaving their old and disabled back in the city to choke and die from the heat. Because air-conditioning is SO declasse. Oh, the fat oaf of a Pope is opposed to it, too. I guess his Latin American hell-hole accustomed it to him. We women of Northern European birth get sun-poisoning, blisters, and fall over in dead faints from the heat. Fact is, without air conditioning, the state of Florida would be just another hell-hole.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at August 11, 2018 11:05 AM (HLTe8)

191 Leaves the Lord responsible for German. You want to blame Him for that?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:10 AM (8ZmvG)

Bismarck was the impetus for unification of the German language to promote the unified German state. Bismarck and Marx have caused more misery in the world than any two Germans had the right to; one created the modern concept of the unified bureaucratic state and its incompetent economics of scale, and the other created the fantasy of scientific socialism.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2018 11:05 AM (2K6fY)

192 Toaster naan is the greatest invention since sliced bread.

Posted by: motionview at August 11, 2018 11:05 AM (pYQR/)

193 It's amazing how well different species can get along. I have three cats and a free-range guinea pig. You'd think Charlie wouldn't stand a chance but the cats avoid him like the plague. He chews on their fur if they let him near.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:06 AM (zFYrP)

194 166 What happened to wmds' post at 10:46?
Posted by: creeper

Wondered that m'self when I saw your reply.

Sometimes when my AT&T link switches IPs, I get one that has been Pixy-banned. Messages seem to post but then disappear. Somebody, sometime, had that AT&T IP and were banned. I just cycle to a new IP (once caught two bad IPs in a row!), but sometimes I don't notice it's happening.

Posted by: mindful webworker - technically squeaking at August 11, 2018 11:06 AM (Bd48Y)

195 illiniwek, I'm sure you know it, but that solar-powered weed-flamer was actually put forward as a workable idea by some of our betters. It was going to do away with pesticides.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:07 AM (8ZmvG)

196 I read a few years ago where some PC school district tried to get a history text that omitted any mention of Thomas Edison so that they could list minority inventors instead.

Their inventions? The traffic light, and the paper bag.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:02 AM (/qEW2)

I recall back in the day, there was a list of inventions that were not, indeed, invented by white folk, but were invented by black people, and stolen by the white devils.

I don't remember what was on the list, but probably light bulbs and penicillin and such things. The only one that made sense to me was the cotton gin. Supposedly invented by Eli Whitney, and I suppose if you were a black slave, in your spare time, you might be motivated to come up with a machine to do much of the hard work, so you didn't have to spend 20 hour a day doing it your self.

So yeah, in your spare time.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:08 AM (cY3LT)

197 https://twitter.com/i/events/1028026301024616449

How often must this cat have started shit that the dog has learned how to stop it?

Posted by: Dog prevents cat fight at August 11, 2018 11:08 AM (VWE5i)

198 Ben Had,
From what I understand red meat, organ meat, and shellfish are excellent sources of taurine. As long as her diet is meat based she should be fine, right?
I saw a recipe with ground beef, chicken, chicken livers, fish oil, organic pumpkin, and raw egg. Grind it all up together and freeze it in meal sized portions. Does that sound adequate?

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 11:08 AM (kufk0)

199 THE GREATEST INVENTION of them ALL.

Pixyware Minx Alpha 7.1

Without which, we would simply not exist as a congregation.

ALL HAIL PIXYWARE!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 11, 2018 11:09 AM (QzJWU)

200 Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (JZFfi

Look what I found! It smells great! Aren't you proud of...

Where are you going?

AAAHHH! AAAAHHH! WHAT DID I DO NOOOOO!

Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 11:09 AM (l9s+S)

201 Other omissions IMO:
Algorithms kind of relate to engineering, yet those aren't listed.

Apart from the camera, nothing optics related like the telescope/microscope.

Nothing about synthesizing stuff via enzymes.

On the other hand, they have contraceptives. Well, given demographic suicide, it's certainly changing the world.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:09 AM (/qEW2)

202 Did microwaveable Hot Pockets™ make the list?

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:10 AM (m45I2)

203 Straws. I live in Cali, and I have to tell you, sending a server to jail and fining him/her because plastic straws were given to customers without being asked for (I'm talking about you, Santa Barbara) is ridiculous.

I think I'll bring a boxful of the suckers to our SoCal MoMe when we hold it.

Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:10 AM (gjGvH)

204 When I lived in Germany, we had a neighbor that spoke Plattdeutsch. The first time their little daughter came over to play with my sister, my mother though the girl had a speech impediment.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 11, 2018 11:10 AM (yQpMk)

205 Don't know if Infidel is still around, but i wanted to say, That's it's a blessing that he didn't linger on longer. As some noted, you prayed and asked for prayers that he go be with your mom and God and so God answered your prayers. Of course, you will feel a huge loss. As Polliwog? noted you spent so much time and energy caring for him and getting care sorted out for him in very difficult circumstances with your brother, that of course you will feel lost. After my mother died I though "Wow; Now I'm an orphan" Please get some support you need or come here and vent. People here understand what is to lose a beloved father or other family member after they have been in hospice or really sick and they care. It's such a mixture of emotions, I think, God understand all our emotions. Here is a prayer for you:

Almighty God, our creator and redeemer
You have given his family and friends to know and love Infidel's father in his pilgrimage on earth. Uphold Infidel now as Infidel trusts him to your love and eternal care. Deal graciously with those who mourn. may those know you as a loving, consoling God.

Out of the depths they cry to you, O Lord-those who loved this man. Fill their hearts with blessed memories. They wait for you, O. God. Their souls wait for you. Give Infidel a word of hope. . Your love is steadfast, O God, always there when we need it. Let Infidel and her father's other friends and family members feel your presence in their time of sorrow. to see hope beyond grief/

Amen.

You will be very busy with many things. Feel free to write if you want to when you get a chance. I've been praying

fenelondirection18 at sign g mail.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 11:10 AM (AllCR)

206
I heard someone on the radio make the claim that crabgrass was not native to America, that some immigrant brought it over from Europe.

I want that persons name and the location of their grave so I can piss on it.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (LOgQ4)

207 195 illiniwek, I'm sure you know it, but that solar-powered weed-flamer was actually put forward as a workable idea by some of our betters. It was going to do away with pesticides.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:07 AM (8ZmvG)

Didn't the news used to be full of stories about how slash and burn was destroying the Amazon and there would be no more oxygen generated on earth?

Posted by: Brazilians! at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (VWE5i)

208 I think the indoor toilet has saved more lives than antibiotics.

Posted by: MarkY at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (BiIZt)

209 200 Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (JZFfi

Look what I found! It smells great! Aren't you proud of...

Where are you going?

AAAHHH! AAAAHHH! WHAT DID I DO NOOOOO!
Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 11:09 AM (l9s+S)
--------
Yep!

Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (JZFfi)

210 206-Mean t' been in hospice or the hospital or really sick and whom they cared for"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (AllCR)

211 Marx deserves blame, but Bismark merely put into action the theories that were widely popular among the European intellectual classes of his day - the Fabian Socialists of England did just as much or more to push the ideas. And there's an endless list of French political theorists, starting with Rousseau's Social Contract, who were cheerleading and guiding all along the way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 11:12 AM (V2Yro)

212 Did microwaveable Hot Pockets™ make the list?
Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:10 AM (m45I2)

They're included on the list. 'Jim Gaffigan' is listed as the 8th greatest invention of all time.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 11:12 AM (y87Qq)

213 Speaking of wacky dog antics, WD rolled in fresh cow poo last weekend. She was pretty happy with herself until the garden hose came out.
Posted by: Weasel at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (JZFfi)

My dog is old. Like, Siberian yogurt eater old. She's at least half blind, about 90% deaf, but her nose still works. So she goes in the yard, finds squirrel poop, and rolls in it. It's the one thing she still does that looks anything like living.

So I don't mind. The smell ain't great, but it doesn't linger, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:12 AM (cY3LT)

214 I'm imagining a maybe 20' x 20' solar panel, under which is a weed killing laser robot, wandering the fields identifying weeds (weed version of facial recognition) and zapping them one by one. With cameras/chips/batteries being small now, it would be fairly easy, once the software is worked out.

I like it! I mean, who would suspect?

Posted by: Skynet at August 11, 2018 11:13 AM (Q6ISu)

215 I really should take up day drinking.
Well, breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:13 AM (Evws/)

216 I think the indoor toilet has saved more lives than antibiotics.

Posted by: MarkY at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (BiIZt)

I'm gonna get that in needlepoint.....framed and hung.

Posted by: BignJames at August 11, 2018 11:13 AM (0+nbW)

217 It is hard to believe but the widespread use of even an outhouse is fairly recent. People in towns did have privies perforce, but most farm families just crapped in the barn with the other animals.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 11, 2018 11:13 AM (yQpMk)

218 People in towns did have privies perforce, but most farm families just crapped in the barn with the other animals.
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Seriously??? Ewwwwww!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at August 11, 2018 11:15 AM (kufk0)

219 Are you Dandy Lion? I'm looking for Dandy Lion.

Posted by: Terminator at August 11, 2018 11:15 AM (Evws/)

220 Sometimes when my ATT link switches IPs, I get
one that has been Pixy-banned. Messages seem to post but then disappear.

Posted by: mindful webworker - technically squeaking at August 11, 2018 11:06 AM (Bd48Y)

Pixy did that to me for one solid year. I couldn't get a post from the computer to stick to save my soul. Then, suddenly, everything worked.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:15 AM (zFYrP)

221 I think I saw somewhere that paved streets was one of the best inventions, ever, or at least was one of the biggest improvements to human health.

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (Q6ISu)

222 Yeah choo choo all.

Making dehydrated apple slices for Heidi, she loves them and have future jerky marinating since yesterday so that'll happen. Then write a little, ukulele and putz around the house. It'll be a bazillion degrees again I believe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (EPnrI)

223 lin-duh, that should do it. but I would sub some shrimp for the raw egg. I would also make the smallest amount possible to see if she will eat it.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (HZVZo)

224 Seriously??? Ewwwwww!!!

So I have read. The Nordics did use a cesspit apparently but since the barn was full of straw and shit anyway, why not just go there and muck it up with all the other dung?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (yQpMk)

225 Why do the British drink warm beer?

Because Lucas makes their refrigerators.

Posted by: ChupaMe at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (qE3QB)

226 1854 Dr. Snow convinced London officials to remove a pump handle in Soho to stop the cholera epidemic.
Dirty water killed TONS of folks.

Posted by: MarkY at August 11, 2018 11:17 AM (BiIZt)

227 Dowsing is not a myth, but, no, not anyone can do it.The learning is over in "witch doctor" territory.
My dad can do it, dammit. I can't.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 10:52 AM (8ZmvG)

Not so much a myth, but according to wikipedia, it's a pseudoscience. The results do not differ from random chance.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)

228 future jerky
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (EPnrI)

Hell of a nickname for 'houseguests' there, Cannibal Bob.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)

229 6 I really should take up day drinking.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2018 09:46 AM (ywNoU)

Slacker. Start with a little sumtin sumtin in your cawfee in the morning.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (EPnrI)

230 I recall reading that in 1968 something like 5% of Canada's population still used outhouses. I don't know when household septic tanks came into common use to knock that down. I can't recall the current stat from when I read the article originally. (Probably under 0.5% now.)

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (Evws/)

231 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 11:10 AM (AllCR)

Thanks, Fen.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (zFYrP)

232 @189 Willis Carrier gets the glory, but an earlier AC inventor, John Gorrie, has a statue in Florida. Florida would practically be unlivable without AC. In SW Florida, my dehumidifier/AC doesn't go off except for a short period in December and January. We don't keep the house meat locker cold, so the annual cost is still far less than our winter heating oil cost in New England. Past few months have been pricey as we are cooling from consistent mid 90's highs w/ 80% RH.

Posted by: chuckR at August 11, 2018 11:19 AM (bRvKP)

233
Hell of a nickname for 'houseguests' there, Cannibal Bob.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)

Lol. Thats good hog.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:19 AM (EPnrI)

234 It is hard to believe but the widespread use of even an outhouse is fairly recent. People in towns did have privies perforce, but most farm families just crapped in the barn with the other animals.

Over on scribd there is a publisher going by the name of The 18th Century Material Resource Center, that publishes powerpoint-type aggregations of pictures relating to particular subjects. One of them is personal hygiene, with a subsection on toilet habits. They have managed to find a number of truly disgusting cartoons from back in the day lampooning the toilet practices of Those-People-In-Other-Countries.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 11:19 AM (bZ7mE)

235 Indoor toilet largely depends on where you flush it to, unless you mean actually falling in the hole. Which did happen, I won't dispute that.

London had to have epidemiology invented for them to stop stockpiling their sewage beneath the town square pumps -- a habit we have recently re-acquired thanks to EPA. But, London never finished their sewage system. It was supposed have a treatment system. Instead they just discharge into the Thames.
And the damn over-rated Romans, with their "cloacae." Means cloak, a thing hidden, so they used the same word for female genitalia and underground sewers. Real smart-asses. They built these arched tunnels to direct rain, and keep their marshes inside the city at a low level. And it all flowed right straight into the Tiber, but even worse, their important port was at the mouth of the Tiber. All their important food imports had to come through those docks, and they were always disease-infested and silting up because...sewers emptied into the Tiber. Cocky bastards.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:20 AM (8ZmvG)

236 Ben Had,
Thanks. I'm gonna wait until we've almost gone through the cans we have bought before transitioning over.

Posted by: lin-duh @ werk at August 11, 2018 11:20 AM (kufk0)

237
Fact is, without air conditioning, the state of Florida would be just another hell-hole.
Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at August 11, 2018 11:05 AM (HLTe

On the other hand, AC has made that swamp Washington DC livable, thereby creating the governing class in the US as they now can live there year-round.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 11:20 AM (eXA4G)

238 #230 Addendum: I think the original article was about the "poverty level" stat and that being poor in 1960s and earlier Canada was alot worse than "being poor" in e.g. 1980s Canada so f#ck the leftists decrying poverty.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:20 AM (Evws/)

239 Hog, I run out of fiends at her quickly.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:20 AM (EPnrI)

240 I recall reading that in 1968 something like 5% of Canada's population still used outhouses.

*******

This, coupled with the Arctic climate conditions is why Canada is generally credited with developing the first ICBM's

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM (m45I2)

241 Damn. Friends rather quickly...oh never mind.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM (EPnrI)

242 I recall reading that in 1968 something like 5% of Canada's population still used outhouses. I don't know when household septic tanks came into common use to knock that down. I can't recall the current stat from when I read the article originally. (Probably under 0.5% now.)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (Evws/)

When I was a kid, we'd drive through "the country," and farmhouses either had a big ol' septic tank, which was rather impressive to see... or they had those little "ponds" just off to the side of the house. Filled with green algae and other assorted slime. That was the option. To be honest, I have no idea how common that still is.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM (cY3LT)

243 A story being ignored by most blogs and the MSM (probably because it's a bit complicated and they don't understand it) is the authorization of the seizure of CITGO to pay bad debts of the Venezuelan Govm't. Not only is CITGO the last cash-earning enterprise that the Venezuelan Govm't owns (outside of it's Caribbean drug smuggling business) but CITGO also provides vital lubricants and chemicals to the remaining bits of the Venezuelan oil biz. (PDvSA) Without that, most of the rest of Venezuela's production will shut down.

CITGO can be seized because most of its assets (refineries) are in the US - Texas, I believe.

And a nice backdoor benny on this move - one of the ways Russia has been supporting Maduro has been to buy up chunks of CITGO's refining business in order to funnel him cash, to the point that currently Russian ownership of CITGO is 49.9%. Once CITGO's assets are seized and used to pay off bad debts, that 49.9% is going to be worth 49.9 cents.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM (V2Yro)

244 222
Yeah choo choo all.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:16 AM (EPnrI)

I will never be able to read those words again without laughing.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:23 AM (zFYrP)

245 Assboy?

Ah, youth.

Posted by: ASSMAN at August 11, 2018 11:23 AM (YiSMO)

246 I recall reading that in 1968 something like 5% of Canada's population still used outhouses.

*******

This, coupled with the Arctic climate conditions is why Canada is generally credited with developing the first ICBM's
Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM (m45I2)

Boo!

Now that you mention it, I think we might also now know from whence came the invention of American lager beer.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:23 AM (cY3LT)

247 237

On the other hand, AC has made that swamp Washington DC livable,
thereby creating the governing class in the US as they now can live
there year-round.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 11, 2018 11:20 AM (eXA4G)

Don't worry, Sacramento is trying their best to turn California into a hell-hole. One reason I don't upgrade my thermometer to the latest (like Nest) is because here in Cali, they can declare an energy emergency (like they did in the last week or two) and send a signal that increased the temperature on your HOME thermometer. Don't worry, Government is here to help!

Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:25 AM (gjGvH)

248 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)

Ya'll come visit me and I will teach you to dowse for water.

Bring a wire coat hanger.

(and if any of you make an abortion joke out of that, you're fired)

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:25 AM (zFYrP)

249 When I was a kid, we'd drive through "the country,"
and farmhouses either had a big ol' septic tank, which was rather
impressive to see... or they had those little "ponds" just off to the
side of the house. Filled with green algae and other assorted slime.
That was the option. To be honest, I have no idea how common that still
is.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM

---

When I was a kid back in the 50-60s most of the Ohio Interstate rest stop bathrooms were pit toilets. They would come in every week or so and pump them out. The didn't start replacing them with flush units until very late in the 60s.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 11, 2018 11:25 AM (JUOKG)

250 I will never be able to read those words again without laughing.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:23 AM (zFYrP)

Same.

Awright, later guys, have a good day.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 11, 2018 11:25 AM (y87Qq)

251 American lager beer.

Posted by: BurtTC

*****

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:26 AM (m45I2)

252 I will never be able to read those words again without laughing.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:23 AM (zFYrP)

Oh, thats a standard around this house now. Heidi walked out of a meeting with her asshole boss and under her breath...."choo choo mutherfucker".

I get cut off in traffic? Hilarious.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:26 AM (EPnrI)

253
I've always heard their behavior towards teh wimminz leaves something to be desired. Was that true in your experience?
Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 11:03 AM (l9s+S)

Sorry, I had to go paint a bathroom.

Yes, the Greeks weren't not especially gentlemanly towards women. Then there are the "Kamakis," the spears, who were on the prowl for lonely tourist wimmenz. We had a lot of girls come to the Embassy because they had been rolled by some Greek guy. Not as many as the guys, but enough that it was noticeable.

I had little trouble because A) I was a diplomat, and didn't go to the tourist spots unless it was business, and I had a big muscled driver guarding my back, B) I was armed with a massive Motorola radio that I wasn't afraid to use, and C) I was more bothered by diplomatic peers and host country officials. I actually had my rear pinched by the PM, the Minister of Defense and the Minister of Economics. On separate occasions. Didn't think it was diplomatically appropriate to beat the crap out of those gentlemen.

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:26 AM (V+V48)

254 Oh, and the paint roller is an invention I am personally grateful for.

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:26 AM (V+V48)

255
Plastic straws are protected by the 2nd Amendment because they also make great blowguns (not the bendy ones, though).
Posted by: mindful webworker - spew spew spew

Use the bendy ones to shoot around corners.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

256 I remember going round and round over CITGO a decade or so ago. Word went out that Venezuela had acquired it, and people started talking boycott, and suddenly there was a Very Big Presence of Facts that although the oil came from down there, this was an American owned company and don't be a bigot against your fellow citizens.
And that was a lie. So who do you trust? You trust nobody.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:28 AM (8ZmvG)

257
I want that persons name and the location of their grave so I can piss on it.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (LOgQ4)

It'll be hard to find because it's been covered by crabgrass

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 11, 2018 11:29 AM (10vO4)

258 I was armed with a massive Motorola radio that I wasn't afraid to use,
So you'd blare Tiny Tim songs at them?

And re. bum pinching, you know the HQ rules, Moki, photos or it didn't happen.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:29 AM (Evws/)

259 Yes, the Greeks weren't not especially gentlemanly towards women. Then
there are the "Kamakis," the spears, who were on the prowl for lonely
tourist wimmenz.

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:26 AM (V+V4

There's something wrong with Greek men. When I was thirty and hot I spent five hours alone on a nude beach. Not one hit.

Greek men are a bust but the food is to die for.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:31 AM (zFYrP)

260 I actually had my rear pinched by the PM...

Papandreou?

He was sort of a full meal deal European potentate. He skimmed about $400M from the Greek treasury and ran off with a stewardess about 35 years his junior. Fled the country, then came back and got reelected. Then later his son got elected and wrecked the economy so bad they canned him.

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 11:32 AM (Q6ISu)

261 A dowser located our well for us, not because we wanted or believed in dowsers, but because he was the well driller we called. He was a completely unpretentious Yankee, a little dour. He used a forked fiberglass rod and held it with both his hands. When he walked over the spot where he eventually drilled the well, the end of the rod dipped so violently downward that he had trouble holding on. Result: 20 gallons a minute at 180 feet in a town where people have been known to drill 700 feet for a quarter gallon. Water literally gushed out of the well before he capped it. Don't know if that's "pseudoscience"; merely reporting what I saw.

Posted by: Caliban at August 11, 2018 11:32 AM (QE8X6)

262 206

I heard someone on the radio make the claim that crabgrass was not
native to America, that some immigrant brought it over from Europe.

I want that persons name and the location of their grave so I can piss on it.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 11, 2018 11:11 AM (LOgQ4)
Originally from Africa, brought out by Europeans. https://www.gardenguides.com/131477-origins-crabgrass.htmlFrom the webpage: "Once in Europe, crabgrass was grown as an animal forage and as a food
additive. The seeds were also fermented to manufacture beer. In Africa,
the seeds of crabgrass are known as, Fonio, and still remain a prominent
staple in many locations."

Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:33 AM (gjGvH)

263 258-Lol, the Motorola was our embassy communication system in the days before cell phones. It was a brick, and I was caught in a couple of riots, and had to beat people about the head to get out of them.

No pics. This was well before selfies were a gleam in some Silicon valley future-czar's eye.

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:33 AM (V+V48)

264 248 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)

Ya'll come visit me and I will teach you to dowse for water.

Bring a wire coat hanger.

(and if any of you make an abortion joke out of that, you're fired)
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:25 AM (zFYrP)

NO! MORE! WIRE! HANGERS! EVER!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2018 11:35 AM (ywNoU)

265 I actually had my rear pinched by the PM...
-------------------------
Papandreou?

He was sort of a full meal deal European potentate. He skimmed about $400M from the Greek treasury and ran off with a stewardess about 35 years his junior. Fled the country, then came back and got reelected. Then later his son got elected and wrecked the economy so bad they canned him.
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 11:32 AM (Q6ISu)

This is why I've basically given up on the human race.

We've spent much of the past year having this very real story play out in front of us, about men in powerful position who treat women like toilets, and all the idiot left (and so-called feminists) talk about is Trump and Russia.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

266
He was sort of a full meal deal European potentate. He skimmed about $400M from the Greek treasury and ran off with a stewardess about 35 years his junior. Fled the country, then came back and got reelected. Then later his son got elected and wrecked the economy so bad they canned him.
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 11:32 AM (Q6ISu)

Well, I guess it counts as two-him and Mitsotakis.

I had to escort Papandreou's not-well-liked floozy, Liani, at a fourth of July function. She was not nice at all.

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:36 AM (V+V48)

267 Yes, Moki, it's always fun to see either old TV shows or current TV shows parodying the past and showing a character pulling out his "mobile phone" and it's the size of a brick.

And we'll take current photos as well.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:36 AM (Evws/)

268 Speaking of Big Canning>>>

Kim Kardashian!

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 11:36 AM (P/aDH)

269 " that solar-powered weed-flamer was actually put
forward as a workable idea by some of our betters. It was going to do
away with pesticides.Posted by: Stringer Davis

I hadn't seen that particular one, but the really small and fast tech now makes a lot of old (impossible) ideas very practical. I kinda watch what new stuff comes out ...

One that is used are the helicopter drones that can carry a few gallons of spray, do a few acres at a time. They can be precisely programmed ... not quite ready for prime time. The prop wash really helps distribute the chemical evenly ... would be great for Japanese beetle control, and other sprays. (and even field crops for small places like mine).

I think California already uses small (human operated) helicopters quite a bit, even for things like drying fruit trees to avoid disease/fungus. A nice small drone just for HiRes observation is under $1000 now, and they practically fly themselves. Coming soon to a farm near me.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2018 11:37 AM (bT8Z4)

270 Is "Liani" Greek for "Michelle"? Just wondering.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:37 AM (Evws/)

271 I'm really confused about this guy who stole a plane in Seattle.

Why now? Why didn't he do it during SeaFair? He could've been the opening act for the Blue Angels!

Posted by: RKae at August 11, 2018 11:37 AM (UjiNo)

272 Long strange history of CITGO.

Wiki on Citgo (then Cities Service): "In 1964, the company moved its headquarters from Bartlesville, Oklahoma, to Tulsa."

Cities Service used to have a great neon sign on top of one of downtown B'ville's buildings. I remember when they changed from a green clover logo to the red triangle - they had them alternating - big sign. Phillips 66 was the main biz, but Citgo was major.

Then one day the sign was gone and so was CITGO. And so were many of our grade school classmates, gone with their folks. It was like some kind of epidemic had swept through.

Posted by: mindful webworker - ancient history at August 11, 2018 11:37 AM (Bd48Y)

273 270 Is "Liani" Greek for "Michelle"? Just wondering.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 11:37 AM (Evws/)

Golf clap

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:37 AM (V+V48)

274 Posted by: Caliban at August 11, 2018 11:32 AM (QE8X6)

My dad hired a contractor to replace his broken sewer line. Dad wasn't exactly positive about the location of the line. The guy showed up with two pieces of metal rod about two feet long, bent on one end so you could hold onto them. He held them parallel loosely and started walking. They stayed parallel for about four feet and then started to swing toward each other. He kept going until they crossed, drove a stake in the ground and said, "Dig here."

He was dead nuts perfect. I still didn't believe it. Accused him of fakery. He handed me the rods, shoved me forward and sure enough...though I did absolutely nothing those rods crossed for me right over the sewer line. Dad tried it, but searching for the water supply line. Nailed it.

Dowsing is real.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:38 AM (zFYrP)

275 I love Greek men.

Posted by: Shep! at August 11, 2018 11:38 AM (oVJmc)

276
We have our 3 y/o grandson and 1 y/o granddaughter with us for the next 24 hours.

Gson is not a fan of his sister trying to play with "his" toys here, so I took her for a walk in the stroller. She loves such walks - her legs are kicking constantly and she babbles nearly as long. That'll show her fit-pitching big brother!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2018 11:39 AM (pNxlR)

277 275 I love Greek men.

Posted by: Shep! at August 11, 2018 11:38 AM (oVJmc)

About time. Can't believe i didnt see that. In my defense, one cuppa cawfee.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:40 AM (EPnrI)

278 Somehow or another, Crabgrass Beer did not make the 35 Great Inventions list.

I know people who complain about crabgrass. I don't drive over to compare specimens. What I have is called Creeping Speedwell, colloquially Creepin' Charlie, and yes I saw them both open for somebody back during the British Invasion and Re-Discovered Bluesmen days.

Creeping Speedwell originated in what used to be called The Orient, and was included as tiny ground cover in hanging baskets by florists. It escaped, and is "endemic" in parts of Ohio, Michigan and Indiana. Not exactly kudzu, but it does choke out grasses eventually, and is genetically close enough to desirable grass that anything that kills it also kills grass.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:41 AM (8ZmvG)

279 There's something wrong with Greek men. When I was thirty and hot I spent five hours alone on a nude beach. Not one hit.

Greek men are a bust but the food is to die for.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:31 AM (zFYrP)

What did you expect? You were the only person on the beach.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2018 11:41 AM (y8Foj)

280 Dem Greek homos stole our stewardesses!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 11, 2018 11:42 AM (ywNoU)

281 274

Dowsing is real.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:38 AM (zFYrP)

I'm skeptical myself, but there may be something to it, for example, if we are sensitive to magnetic field disturbances on a subconscious level (pigeons can sense magnetic fields, and cows seem to align as if they do). A small bent rod held in the hand doesn't take much torque to twist, so subconsciously the dowser may be doing it.

Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:43 AM (gjGvH)

282 279 There's something wrong with Greek men. When I was thirty and hot I spent five hours alone on a nude beach. Not one hit.

Greek men are a bust but the food is to die for. "

Even the Spartans were fags.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 11:44 AM (V2Yro)

283 Gotta run. All have a great Saturday.

Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:44 AM (gjGvH)

284 I'm skeptical myself, but there may be something to it, for example, if we are sensitive to magnetic field disturbances on a subconscious level (pigeons can sense magnetic fields, and cows seem to align as if they do). A small bent rod held in the hand doesn't take much torque to twist, so subconsciously the dowser may be doing it.

Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:43 AM (gjGvH)

And then theres the bird migrations, and dont get me started on monarch butterflies.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:45 AM (EPnrI)

285 Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:43 AM (gjGvH)

Solemn promise: You can do it.

Nobody is more of a skeptic than I. It had to be proven to me. It was.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:45 AM (zFYrP)

286 A nice small drone just for HiRes observation is
under $1000 now, and they practically fly themselves. Coming soon to a
farm near me.

Posted by: illiniwek

Not so fast there peasant.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yaxrhcqr

Posted by: Big Government FAA at August 11, 2018 11:45 AM (P/aDH)

287 Even the Spartans were fags.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 11:44 AM (V2Yro)

I saw 300 with a couple of buddies, and I said, cool movie, but I feel a little weird watching a bunch of sweaty muscly guys in leather thongs with you guys.

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 11:46 AM (Q6ISu)

288 Oh and women's cycles that synchronize to the tides or moon and each other or something. Lets not forget that thread. It was a doozy.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 11, 2018 11:47 AM (EPnrI)

289 Does anyone remember the title of the low budget movie that was highlighted in the Saturday Night Movie thread last week? I watched the interview with the director and made a mental note to watch it this weekend and I've forgotten the title.

Posted by: Biergood at August 11, 2018 11:47 AM (57HKF)

290 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2018 11:39 AM (pNxlR)

Awww! That's sweet.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 11:48 AM (AllCR)

291 Hey, while things are peaceful and before the next thread...

Out-of-town son and his wife and their 1yo visited last week, and brought news. They're going to have another baby. Good spacing. Siblings can be a good thing, done right.

DiL's had health problems, the kind that relate to pregnancy, and they were afraid they might not have the first, and were again concerned she might not be able to have another, so this is excellent. Prayers that this all goes well, that mom and baby are okay, welcomed.

Posted by: mindful webworker - grampaw at August 11, 2018 11:49 AM (Bd48Y)

292 Those drones are giving the Academy of Model Aeronautics fits. Big government wants to regulate the hell out of them. The AMA is walking a fine line to keep them legal.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:50 AM (zFYrP)

293 I saw 300 with a couple of buddies, and I said, cool movie, but I feel a little weird watching a bunch of sweaty muscly guys in leather thongs with you guys."

The funniest/most cringeworthy part of that entire movie was Xerxes in full s/m gear riding on top of the winning float entry for the San Fran Gay Pride Parade.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 11:50 AM (V2Yro)

294 254 Oh, and the paint roller is an invention I am personally grateful for.
Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:26 AM (V+V4

------------------------
LOL. I'm the painter in my household and I never use a roller. Never.
It's not just the mess and waste of paint that bothers me.
I just love the feel of a brush. It turns me on.
Yeah, kinky.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 11:51 AM (0jtPF)

295 181
Assboy?

Do we have some John Ringo/Kildar fans here?

Posted by: Schadenfreude at August 11, 2018 11:02 AM (VWE5i)

I have all of his books and I know exactly which ones he is talking about.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 11:51 AM (mpXpK)

296 I can't believe anyone is still in the crop-dusting business with a biplane, with all the cheaper/less deadly alternatives there are now. But I still see a few.

Keep expecting to see one of those high-wheeled long-boom ag sprayer rigs chasing Cary Grant.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 11:51 AM (8ZmvG)

297 Posted by: jim at August 11, 2018 11:43 AM (gjGvH)

Solemn promise: You can do it.

Nobody is more of a skeptic than I. It had to be proven to me. It was.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:45 AM (zFYrP)

I have no dog in this hunt, and don't imagine I'm ever going to be in a position to test this concept, but I will say this:

If you say there's some scientific principle behind the concept of dowsing, and even if we're not 100% sure what that is, then yeah, I can buy it. If this is some sort of metaphysical thing though, where magic is involved, the count me out.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:52 AM (cY3LT)

298 Hokay, Morons. I just added "wire coat hanger" to my packing list for Ben's MoMe. Dowsing lessons free of charge for all attendees.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:52 AM (zFYrP)

299 This ranch where we live now, came to our family when my father's mother's father bought it to look for oil.

Story is, he didn't find oil here, only natural gas. Which they didn't want, capped off, and forgot about.

It was supposedly somewhere east of the old chicken coop.

Can one douse for that lost capped well?

Posted by: mindful webworker - and how do you add that skunk smell? at August 11, 2018 11:53 AM (Bd48Y)

300 mindful, to my knowledge dowsing only works with water.

There has to be some logical explanation for why it works but damned if I can find it.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:55 AM (zFYrP)

301 289 Does anyone remember the title of the low budget movie that was highlighted in the Saturday Night Movie thread last week? I watched the interview with the director and made a mental note to watch it this weekend and I've forgotten the title.
Posted by: Biergood at August 11, 2018 11:47 AM (57HKF)

Panopticon

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at August 11, 2018 11:55 AM (Rz2Nc)

302 I have to go for a while. BBL.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 11, 2018 11:55 AM (mpXpK)

303 299-You could contact the local gas company about the well, to see if they are interested in buying the natural gas from you. Depending on output, you could have a tidy little monthly income.

Okay all, enjoy the dowsing, straws, A/C and butt pinching. I have to go write. Smooches!!

Posted by: moki at August 11, 2018 11:55 AM (V+V48)

304 299---Can one douse for that lost capped well?
Posted by: mindful webworker - and how do you add that skunk smell? at August 11, 2018 11:53 AM (Bd48Y)
---------------------------
No, but you can call one of those telephone psychics.
It's only $1 per minute and it probably won't take more than a couple of hours for them to give you explicit directions.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 11:56 AM (0jtPF)

305 I saw 300 with a couple of buddies, and I said, cool movie, but I feel a little weird watching a bunch of sweaty muscly guys in leather thongs with you guys."
-----------------------------
The funniest/most cringeworthy part of that entire movie was Xerxes in full s/m gear riding on top of the winning float entry for the San Fran Gay Pride Parade.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 11:50 AM (V2Yro)

Egad, I hate that movie. And the big climax is that someone wounds him. With a spear.

Yeah, that's not a gay metaphor.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:56 AM (cY3LT)

306 Can one douse for that lost capped well?

******

You'd probably have better luck with a metal detector.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:57 AM (m45I2)

307 @303
Good thought. Maybe the gas company can find that well.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:57 AM (zFYrP)

308 "dowsing only works with water" - dang it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - and the missing ingredient at August 11, 2018 11:57 AM (Bd48Y)

309 There's something wrong with Greek men. When I was thirty and hot I spent five hours alone on a nude beach. Not one hit.

Greek men are a bust but the food is to die for.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:31 AM (zFYrP)

To be fair, nude beaches are really not a great place to meet people.

A fellow LT and I went to a clothing optional beach in Italy. We were young and fit and wearing bathing suits.

A young Italian woman in a Tshirt and running shorts comes on the beach and lays down her towel and sets down her bag about 20 ft in front of us. She takes off her shirt, and she wasn't wearing a top. Then she bends over, slips down her shorts - and she wasn't wearing a bottom! It took her a while rooting around in her bag to find her bikini bottom, which she slipped on.

Multiple things:

1. She put on her bikini bottom, too late, we done seen everything.

2. There wasn't much mystery there.

3. In retrospect, she was quite fetching, and seems like she may have come away from that beach trip thinking "what is wrong with these American men?"

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 11:57 AM (Q6ISu)

310 Wait! Surely that gas well is made of metal pipe. You don't need dowsing rods. You need a metal detector.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:58 AM (zFYrP)

311 *sigh*

Note to self: Read previous posts before running fingers.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 11:58 AM (zFYrP)

312 You'd probably have better luck with a metal detector.

Posted by: Muldoon

Or ground penetrating Radar. I wonder if you can rent those.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 11:59 AM (P/aDH)

313 Can one douse for that lost capped well?
Posted by: mindful webworker - and how do you add that skunk smell? at August 11, 2018 11:53 AM (Bd48Y)
---------------------------
No, but you can call one of those telephone psychics.
It's only $1 per minute and it probably won't take more than a couple of hours for them to give you explicit directions.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 11:56 AM (0jtPF)

Hold on, don't do that. Lemme go get my ouija board.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:59 AM (cY3LT)

314 I have a capped oil well behind the garage! We're saving it for a rainy day.There's also a world-beatin' refinery about 500 feet beyond that. Think anybody has "drunk my milkshake" in 125 years?

Yeah. "300." Mrs Leonidas seemed so nice, even though we know that Spartan couples didn't live in the same house together and they treated women, as the man says, like toilets. Noble tale about total assholes.

And the Athenians, don't get me started. Marginally less butch, but they worked their slaves to death in the silver mines. Didn't even bother them. The Thebans may have been the decent Greecans, and they were the gheyest of the lot, at least to hear the rest of them tell it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (8ZmvG)

315
Can one douse for that lost capped well?
Posted by: mindful webworker - and how do you add that skunk smell? at August 11, 2018 11:53 AM (Bd48Y

Ground penetrating radar?

They also make powerful metal detectors that can penetrate several feet of ground. I've used them subset to try and locate pipelines.

Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (2rlYk)

316 Let's masturbate!

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (NpK5V)

317 Panopticon
Posted by: Evasiveboat42

Thanks!

Posted by: Biergood at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (57HKF)

318 Pssst...Bert...your skepticism is showing.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (zFYrP)

319 impressive to see... or they had those little "ponds" just off to the side of the house. Filled with green algae and other assorted slime.
That was the option. To be honest, I have no idea how common that still is.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM

House hunting in MO Ozarks in 1997, I learned that Lagoon wasn't a fishing hole, but a cesspool.
They were getting zoned out before I left in 2004.

Posted by: Mizzou at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (VWE5i)

320 So, finally looked at the fruit punch recipe.

Sprite and sugar? Urk. Otherwise, it's fruit juice. And strawberries.

Pour some juice. Add rum. Enjoy a strawberry with it (optional).

Posted by: mindful webworker - my nightly nightcap, actually, at August 11, 2018 12:01 PM (Bd48Y)

321 Posted by: mindful webworker - grampaw at August 11, 2018 11:49 AM (Bd48Y)

Will keep them in prayer. When is the new baby due?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 12:01 PM (AllCR)

322 I meant subsea.

Posted by: Executive Outcomes at August 11, 2018 12:02 PM (2rlYk)

323 Yet another great Saturday pre-gardening thread by KT.

One of the distinctive and wonderful parts of the AOSHQ ecosystem.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 11, 2018 12:02 PM (QDnY+)

324 316 Let's masturbate!

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (NpK5V)

I get that I am supposed to answer Yay, but, ummm, no?

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 12:03 PM (Q6ISu)

325 someone wounds him. With a spear.
Yeah, that's not a gay metaphor.

A Mr "Longinus" is on line 2.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:03 PM (8ZmvG)

326 >I get that I am supposed to answer Yay, but, ummm, no?

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2018 12:03 PM (Q6ISu)

So, blaster is not a team player today.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:04 PM (NpK5V)

327 most wells are recorded by the county, I would think. Not sure how long that has been a regulation though.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2018 12:04 PM (bT8Z4)

328 Let's masturbate!

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (NpK5V)

Not at the moment, thanks. I'm about to have lunch. ;^) but please don't let that stop you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 12:05 PM (AllCR)

329 impressive to see... or they had those little "ponds" just off to the side of the house. Filled with green algae and other assorted slime.
That was the option. To be honest, I have no idea how common that still is.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM

House hunting in MO Ozarks in 1997, I learned that Lagoon wasn't a fishing hole, but a cesspool.
They were getting zoned out before I left in 2004.
Posted by: Mizzou at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (VWE5i)

Do you think it was more common in Missouri than it was elsewhere? Honestly, I haven't a clue, and wouldn't have known how common they were anymore, but it doesn't surprise me that they would be zoned out.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:05 PM (cY3LT)

330 Remember that guy that tried to steal an airplane last week and was arrested? Crazy that he thought you could just walk up to an airplane at an airport, get in the seat and fly away, Right?

Well, a few days ago a guy at the Seattle-Tacoma airport, walked up to a 76 seat Alaska Airlines jet and took off. Trump was called, F-15s were scrambled, he was vectored to an unpopulated area, where he did a few stunts then lawn darted it into an island.

Posted by: bananadream at August 11, 2018 12:05 PM (YR7aL)

331 Ground penetrating Radar rental for about $200 a day. Well if you are near IL or NC.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc5qkxln

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 12:05 PM (P/aDH)

332 Yesterday, my computer was attacked by one of those stupid malware thingies where a page pops up and won't close, telling you that you have a virus that is stealing your personal information and that if you try to close the window before calling their phone number, they will have to disable your computer to keep it from infecting others.
-----------------------

To deal with this sort of thing, you need to close out your browser. On a Mac, use Force Quit. On a PC, right-click the Task Bar, select Task Manager, find your browser in the list of processes, and then click End Task for every Browser listing that you find. When you're done, restart your browser. You will likely get a message telling you that your browsing session closed unexpectedly, and asking if you would like to restore your session. Either tell it no, or ignore the message, as this will cause the problem window to reappear.

Posted by: junior at August 11, 2018 12:06 PM (bMevx)

333 240 I recall reading that in 1968 something like 5% of Canada's population still used outhouses.

*******

This, coupled with the Arctic climate conditions is why Canada is generally credited with developing the first ICBM's

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 11:21 AM (m45I2)

(Bowing) We are not worthy.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 11, 2018 12:06 PM (4jqDR)

334 If you say there's some scientific principle behind the concept of dowsing, and even if we're not 100% sure what that is, then yeah, I can buy it. If this is some sort of metaphysical thing though, where magic is involved, the count me out."

I have a scientific degree, and mindset, and I know how things work more than most people. I don't have experience with dousing - but every once in a while I've seen a thing or two that I know can't be explained by anything I've ever been taught. And usually, like everyone, the best response is just to say "hmmm" and not talk about it a whole lot. Especially a couple things that would have people calling me nuts if I ever admitted to what I saw.

But because of that, I don't count anything out, not completely. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 12:06 PM (V2Yro)

335 I am getting a strong sense that the capped well is perhaps near a body of water. Is there perchance a body of water within 100 miles of your property?

/Psychic detective's fallback prediction.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 12:06 PM (m45I2)

336 @330 Um, that was last night about midnight. Check your time-stamp.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:07 PM (8ZmvG)

337 Trumpentwitter continues to entertain.

This morning, a not-so-veiled threat on declassification of FBI docs involved in the Mega-Scandals.

"I may have to get involved. DO NOT DESTROY"

McCabe texts sought by Judicial Watch (the mysterious 4th branch of government we never heard about but which apparently substitutes for an actual legislature and parts of an actual judiciary in the debris field formerly known as "the constitution").

And some ball-spiking on black/Hispanic employment. And prison reform (sigh) - that item that's in the encyclopedia under the heading "treating symptoms, not causes".

Posted by: rhomboid at August 11, 2018 12:07 PM (QDnY+)

338 Pssst...Bert...your skepticism is showing.
Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (zFYrP)

Oh hell yes. I wear it proudly. I start with an assumption about most things, that people are silly and wrong and believe things that just are not true, then wait for evidence to show otherwise.

Works across so many spectrums of this existence.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:07 PM (cY3LT)

339 My grandmothers used to say something was the 'greatest thing since sliced bread'.
Posted by: mustbequantum

======
Sliced bread was first sold in 1928.
Betty White was born in 1922.
Therefore sliced bread was the greatest thing since Betty White.

QED

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at August 11, 2018 12:07 PM (6LD/i)

340 Well, a few days ago a guy at the Seattle-Tacoma airport,"

actually yesterday afternoon

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

341 316 Let's masturbate!

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (NpK5V)

Again?

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 12:08 PM (zFYrP)

342 Gavin McInnes and his mainly Libertarian group, Proud Boys, both banned from Twitter.

The purge continues.

Posted by: Don Q at August 11, 2018 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

343 Use the bendy ones to shoot around corners.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

The Krummstroh.

A modern version of the Wermacht's Krummlauf

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2018 12:08 PM (2K6fY)

344 the lagoon thing for cattle yard runoff is still used I think ... the ones for human waste go through some kind of treatment, but the small town near me has one ... actually the Menard's right in town has one.

I'm sure there is a You-Tube on how they keep them from stinking ... water volume and chemicals probably.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 11, 2018 12:08 PM (bT8Z4)

345
Moki: You could contact the local gas company about the well, to see if they are interested in buying the natural gas from you. Depending on output, you could have a tidy little monthly income.

Was thinking more of having a private secret NG well for the hard times.

Margarita DeVille: telephone psychics

If they were really psychic, they'd call me with the info.

Muldoon and creeper: metal detector

Some of the likely area has been metal detected. Nothing found.

Buzzsaw: ground penetrating Radar

Yeah, that's what I came down to. Also thought of that because we have an Cherokee grave yard on the property, and I suspect there may be some graves unmarked. If I can get some group like graveyard preservation or the Cherokees to finance the radar on that, maybe we could take a side-trip looking for the gas well.

Posted by: mindful webworker - it's a natural gas at August 11, 2018 12:09 PM (Bd48Y)

346 Yeah. "300." Mrs Leonidas seemed so nice, even though we know that Spartan couples didn't live in the same house together and they treated women, as the man says, like toilets. Noble tale about total assholes.

Largely fictional tale, at that. There were two kings of Sparta, who mostly acted as warleaders 'cause the actual governing was run by the council of Ephors (whose name got highjacked and turned into another name for the Delphian Oracle), and there were a bunch of other Greeks at Thermopolae, not just Spartans.

The real, aggravating change is that in real life Leonidas chose to die rather than retreat because he whole-heartedly believed in the oracle stating that either Sparta would burn or a Spartan king would die, and given the choice he preferred to die rather than see his city destroyed. That is why the Spartans stayed when their position became untenable, not just machismo. 300 turned Leonidas into some sort of Enlightenment rationalist and portrayed the whole thing as Reason versus Superstition.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 12:11 PM (bZ7mE)

347 40-some years ago I had just got done watching some Mr Wizard type expalin that dowsing worked because water flowing through a pipe or rock layer generated some level of electrical current, and thinking, OK, that's that...
when the old man used two bent lengths of re-rod to find a cast-iron sewer pipe, that was not even clogged. No way in the world was there enough of...anything flowing in that pipe to create a current of any sort.
So...densitometer on the hoof? Who the hell can say. It ain't magic, though.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:11 PM (8ZmvG)

348 336,340 >>
Yep, I see now: 00:18 EDT, 11 August 2018

I lose my ability to process numbers over the weekend.

Posted by: bananadream at August 11, 2018 12:11 PM (YR7aL)

349 313---Hold on, don't do that. Lemme go get my ouija board.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:59 AM (cY3LT)
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Heh!

When I see those ads for psychic hotlines, when I listen to Coast to Coast, I do snicker --- but at the same time I'm grateful that goofballs still have the freedom to be goofballs.

Well, they have that freedom as long as they don't go against the Party.
You can talk about how crystals will improve your love life but, if you question the holy Consensus on AGW, you must be deplatformed, sued, or arrested.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:11 PM (0jtPF)

350 Use the bendy ones to shoot around corners.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2018 11:28 AM (IqV8l)

The Krummstroh.

A modern version of the Wermacht's Krummlauf

Posted by: Kindltot

The Joos in Israel invented a better version The Corner Shot.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 12:12 PM (P/aDH)

351 Gavin McInnes and his mainly Libertarian group, Proud Boys, both banned from Twitter.

The purge continues.
Posted by: Don Q at August 11, 2018 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

I'm surprised Twitter banned a group with that name since it sounds like the name of a homo group.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2018 12:12 PM (y8Foj)

352 Vic's #9 this morning, http://tinyurl.com/y7o76lkm , an article about boom towns in the South and moribund North.

The article was based on population growth.
There is a strong co-relationship between these cities growth and high numbers of illegal immigration.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 12:12 PM (FeOTH)

353 You haven't lived until you've traveled at speed on a corduroy road.

That's where they lay down logs on a dirt road where it doesn't drain well.

I'm just old enough to have driven on one with my Dad.

And yes, you can get off my landscape.

Posted by: jakee308 at August 11, 2018 12:12 PM (KfCZH)

354 FenelonSpoke: When is the new baby due?

Ummm.... Late March, IIRC, hoping for full term.

Posted by: mindful webworker - grampaw at August 11, 2018 12:12 PM (Bd48Y)

355 Posted by: mindful webworker - it's a natural gas at August 11, 2018 12:09 PM (Bd48Y)

Yeah.... calling a Psychic is kind of like getting a degree in Economics or Business.

If the guys teaching the classes had all that knowledge... then why are they not out in the business world making REAL money?

Posted by: Don Q at August 11, 2018 12:13 PM (NgKpN)

356 >353
You haven't lived until you've traveled at speed on a corduroy road.

That's where they lay down logs on a dirt road where it doesn't drain well.

I'm just old enough to have driven on one with my Dad.

I still use that method on trails on my land where they cross low areas.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:14 PM (NpK5V)

357 I didn't see vacuum tubes on the list. Radio, television, and the first computer wouldn't have seen the light of day without vacuum tubes. No electric guitar amps, no electric guitar, no early rock and roll, no metal. Dark ages I tell you.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2018 12:15 PM (9Om/r)

358 illiniwek: most wells are recorded by the county...

This one goes 'way back. Great-grampaw was a wildcatter, drilling holes all over this area. Doubt the non-producers got registered.

Posted by: mindful webworker - grampaw at August 11, 2018 12:16 PM (Bd48Y)

359 But because of that, I don't count anything out, not completely. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 11, 2018 12:06 PM (V2Yro)

Yes, because one of our myths by which we live is the belief that we've discovered everything already. Which, given how humans are, has probably been the case since the stone age.

Science, when it's done right, encounters those "hmmm" moments, then tries to find answers. All too often though, as you suggest, those moments are often met with "kill the witch!" types of responses.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)

360 The Gardening Thread is up. Or you can hang around here.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 11, 2018 12:17 PM (BVQ+1)

361 345---If they were really psychic, they'd call me with the info.
Posted by: mindful webworker - it's a natural gas at August 11, 2018 12:09 PM (Bd48Y)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:17 PM (0jtPF)

362 Use the bendy ones to shoot around corners.

Ogod. We got us a Peyronie's Support Group.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:19 PM (8ZmvG)

363 Steel pipes usually have a magnetic field so the coathanger will be affected. Used to work for. A major pipeline

Posted by: Bill at August 11, 2018 12:19 PM (MX8o0)

364 Muldoon: Is there perchance a body of water within 100 miles of your property?

Why, yes, there's a cattle pond just about a quarter-mile away. And the river. That's amazing!

Now, who's gonna win the 2020 Pres race?

Posted by: mindful webworker - psychic physicist at August 11, 2018 12:21 PM (Bd48Y)

365 You haven't lived until you've traveled at speed on a corduroy road.>>>
No real speed involved but we laid logs in a low spot in a trail. We had 2 4X4 vehicles. A 1975 Dodge 3/4 ton and a 1985 Toyota 4Runner The Toyota skipped right across. The Dodge took some of the smaller logs up under the truck and broke them in half. That Truck was a beast.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 11, 2018 12:22 PM (P/aDH)

366 Garden thread has been planted.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=376455

Posted by: mindful webworker - run, run like the wind, little corgis at August 11, 2018 12:22 PM (Bd48Y)

367 Let's masturbate!

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 11, 2018 12:00 PM (NpK5V)

Again?

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2018 12:08 PM (zFYrP)

No, not again.

Still.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:22 PM (cY3LT)

368 Posted by: mindful webworker - grampaw at August 11, 2018 12:12 PM (Bd48Y)

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2018 12:23 PM (AllCR)

369 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 11, 2018 12:24 PM (zLADU)

370 Let's masturbate!
Posted by: Muad'dib

*******

Don't be a jerk.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2018 12:25 PM (m45I2)

371 You want to try the raw diet on the kitten, as she may turn her nose up at it when she's older. I have one cat that still likes raw, because I fed her some raw hamburger when she was young.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2018 12:28 PM (Lqy/e)

372 Gov/Gen David Hull was a little late for the beginning of the War of 1812 because he had his army build a corduroy road from Dayton to Detroit.

At a spot near Fort Meigs, when the Dixie Highway was being built in the 1920's, crews discovered submerged logs over 30 feet deep in the mud. Apparently the original "military engineers" just kept laying in more logs until they floated.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:28 PM (8ZmvG)

373 Hold on, don't do that. Lemme go get my ouija board.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 11:59 AM (cY3LT)
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Heh!

When I see those ads for psychic hotlines, when I listen to Coast to Coast, I do snicker --- but at the same time I'm grateful that goofballs still have the freedom to be goofballs.

Well, they have that freedom as long as they don't go against the Party.
You can talk about how crystals will improve your love life but, if you question the holy Consensus on AGW, you must be deplatformed, sued, or arrested.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:11 PM (0jtPF)

I am struck by how little we have "evolved" as a species. I don't think we are ever going to reach a point where reason and logic rule the human mind. We're just not that being.

Obviously we have SOME of that... (some of us more than others), but still, we believe stuff. Because it's how we're programmed.

Take water for example, since we're on that subject. When I go into my bathroom, I turn on the faucet. What happens? Water comes out! When I flush, what happens.. whoosh! When I turn on the shower, and turn the knob from cold to hot... and I hit the sweet spot, I get the joy of water, at just the right temperature.

Now... what happens when ANY of that breaks down?

I go into a panic. Why? Because I believe. And when my beliefs are challenged, I turn into a psychopathic ogre.

Just like everybody else.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:30 PM (cY3LT)

374 Hey Texas, seems you got a Tammy Duckworth trying to turn the 31st blue in November.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9fddzqd

And oh yeah, MJ you ain't Spiderman's girlfriend either.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 11, 2018 12:32 PM (zLADU)

375 We've spent much of the past year having this very real story play out in front of us, about men in powerful position who treat women like toilets, and all the idiot left (and so-called feminists) talk about is Trump and Russia

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Well, duh. Most of them are leftys.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at August 11, 2018 12:32 PM (6LD/i)

376 359
Yes, because one of our myths by which we live is the belief that we've discovered everything already. Which, given how humans are, has probably been the case since the stone age.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)
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Eh. Maybe. Maybe not.

I think mankind has always recognized that there is a vast reality outside the power of human ken. And despite the fact that many things formerly thought to be Beyond are now within our grasp, the basic view is IMO sound.

By that I mean there is no reason to suppose that the entirety of reality is confined to what one species on one planet can perceive or rationally deduce. We'd laugh at an amoeba making that claim.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:33 PM (0jtPF)

377 373----....but still, we believe stuff. Because it's how we're programmed.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:30 PM (cY3LT)
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And we're undoubtedly programmed (or conditioned) that way because we couldn't function if we had to examine every little thing.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:39 PM (0jtPF)

378 Well, duh. Most of them are leftys.

Indeed. This is the differentiating factor of Donald The Trump.These rich, cultured, powerful studio execs and diplomats get in a room with a girl, and they do things that would make a junior-high lothario blush, were it seen.

Trump, he grabs or doesn't grab, pays off or not, depending on your religion, but he gets around. And they can't find a woman who will say he behaved like an ogre. Not one you can depose, anyway.

A gentleman does things no gentleman would, in a way only a gentleman can.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 11, 2018 12:40 PM (8ZmvG)

379 Yes, because one of our myths by which we live is the belief that we've discovered everything already. Which, given how humans are, has probably been the case since the stone age.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)
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Eh. Maybe. Maybe not.

I think mankind has always recognized that there is a vast reality outside the power of human ken. And despite the fact that many things formerly thought to be Beyond are now within our grasp, the basic view is IMO sound.

By that I mean there is no reason to suppose that the entirety of reality is confined to what one species on one planet can perceive or rationally deduce. We'd laugh at an amoeba making that claim.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:33 PM (0jtPF)

Like almost everything else, it's on a continuum, and all of us are capable of reasonable thought, at times. So when we look out at the universe and realize "hey, there's a lot we don't know," that's use using that part of our brains.

Then when talking about this globall warmening nonsense, when we get 5 hot days in a row, or a hailstorm, or a massive hurricane forms in the Atlantic, we think we're living in end times. Not all of us, obviously, but collectively, yeah.

Everyone has superstitions. Everyone.

And I don't believe we have fewer today than we did a thousand years ago, let alone 100,000 years ago. They just take different forms.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:41 PM (cY3LT)

380 379---Everyone has superstitions. Everyone.

And I don't believe we have fewer today than we did a thousand years ago, let alone 100,000 years ago. They just take different forms.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:41 PM (cY3LT)
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Yep.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 12:46 PM (0jtPF)

381 "Everyone has superstitions. Everyone. "

More college should have reduce this, no?

All you'd need is a good HS chemistry class to know that AGW (and CAGW) violate every tenet of the Scientific Method.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 12:53 PM (1UZdv)

382 379. It's bad luck to be superstitious.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 11, 2018 12:56 PM (fA1SL)

383 "This is the differentiating factor of Donald The Trump."

I have this debate with the Igno-Daughter who's mostly rational. She has difficulty distinguishing Harvey and Matt from The Donald. A lot of white suburban women don't get it either.

A big factor for me is that Donald didn't diddle at work, and wouldn't tolerate true sexual harassment in the workplace. Which means women can work without fear.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 01:00 PM (1UZdv)

384 All you'd need is a good HS chemistry class to know that AGW (and CAGW) violate every tenet of the Scientific Method.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 12:53 PM (1UZdv)

Yup.

It's amazing to me that so few "scientists" see that.

Or they do but - Hey who cares about the truth in scientific enquiry when there's sweet sweet grant money to be had?

The whole argument from the Left is an appeal to authority "Well, scientists, real researchers are saying this."

Is pretty much an argument I have all the time. Even real data has no effect cuz Jimmy kimmel might laugh at them or something.

It's religion for retards who think they're smart.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2018 01:04 PM (9q7Dl)

385 I am struck by how little we have "evolved" as a species. I don't think we are ever going to reach a point where reason and logic rule the human mind. We're just not that being.

Obviously we have SOME of that... (some of us more than others), but still, we believe stuff. Because it's how we're programmed.

More fundamentally, reason itself is based on certain assumptions. You can't reason your way to reason - several people, must notable Rene Descartes, have tried and failed. The very foundation of a rationalist system of thought has to be taken as a matter of faith.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 11, 2018 01:15 PM (bZ7mE)

386 #382
379. It's bad luck to be superstitious.
Don't say that! It's bad luck!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 01:20 PM (Evws/)

387 383
I have this debate with the Igno-Daughter who's mostly rational. She has difficulty distinguishing Harvey and Matt from The Donald. A lot of white suburban women don't get it either.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 01:00 PM (1UZdv)
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I have no difficulty distinguishing between a player and a harasser/abuser --- but then, I have run into both in my life.
Perhaps your daughter is too young. Perhaps it's generational --- sexual harassment may indeed have been more common a few decades ago.

Players like the Donald have never upset me in the least.
I don't like them, emphatically don't want to date them, but they don't upset me. You say no, perhaps you both chuckle, and he moves on.

With the Matt Lauers, not to mention the Weinsteins, there is the element of FEAR.

In any case, the famous tape was nothing but Trump boasting ( or marveling) at what being in show biz does to make men desirable, how women LET you do things.
And in that very tape he confesses that it's not all women. He was rejected at the outset by that married one. She didn't LET him do anything --- and he said oh-well and moved on without a trace of bitterness.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 01:24 PM (0jtPF)

388 382 379. It's bad luck to be superstitious.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 11, 2018 12:56 PM (fA1SL)

*throws black cat over shoulder into a mirror*
*mirror shatters*

Right?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 11, 2018 01:28 PM (NWiLs)

389 @387 Well said.

I used to not like Trump but saw his potential to be an effective tool because of Mad Media Skillz.

He's since earned my admiration for his persistence despite buckets of blood being poured over his head, routinely.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 01:32 PM (1UZdv)

390 *throws black cat over shoulder into a mirror*
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Salt. It's salt, you imbecile!
You don't throw a black cat over your shoulder for good luck.
Sheesh.

No wonder the mirror broke.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 01:32 PM (0jtPF)

391 The thing that has always annoyed me about the Donald mish-grabbing tape is that the media treats it like a confession. Hillary has said on more than one occasion something like , "this is a man who brags about sexually assaulting women."
The other thing is Donald can't address that tape--ever.
What's he supposed to say? "Yeah, some women are gold-digging whores who will let you have their way with them?"

He did the best he could calling it "locker room talk."
And that's what it is.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2018 01:36 PM (y8Foj)

392 389
I used to not like Trump but saw his potential to be an effective tool because of Mad Media Skillz.

He's since earned my admiration for his persistence despite buckets of blood being poured over his head, routinely.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 01:32 PM (1UZdv)
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Yeah, I didn't like him at all.

Then I saw he had what Cicero called the greatest of political virtues, the one thing so appallingly lacking in our public life --- courage.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 01:40 PM (0jtPF)

393 We'd laugh at an amoeba making that claim.

Give us some credit. We do keep you on the run.

Posted by: Amoebic Dysentery at August 11, 2018 01:41 PM (56NPE)

394 Yeah, I didn't like him at all.

Then I saw he had what Cicero called the greatest of political virtues, the one thing so appallingly lacking in our public life --- courage.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 01:40

PM (0jtPF)
Exactly. I hated his public persona--hated The Apprentice. That perpetual scowl--when he had the world by the, well, mish. His gaudy building projects, the bragging.

But he doesn't give a shit about all bullshit coming down on him. Which makes him the right man at the right time.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 11, 2018 01:44 PM (y8Foj)

395 48-year-old man, Matthew Vincent Raymond, charged in the Fredericton, N.B. shooting yesterday.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycjvw4er

BTW, if you a photo of a man wearing a black T-shirt illustrating any reports about this story, it's one of the victims and not the shooter.

Cops still not saying anything like whether it was a domestic dispute, or if the civilian victims (a newly-dating couple apparently) were known to the shooter.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 01:46 PM (Evws/)

396 if you... see ... a photo of a man

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 01:48 PM (Evws/)

397 He looked ... like a man.

Posted by: Ms Swan at August 11, 2018 02:02 PM (yQpMk)

398 I'm seeing this quote that Einstein believed in dowsing (dowsers.org) but I'm not able to find the original source, so I'm going with dubious quote for the moment.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 02:03 PM (/qEW2)

399 He looked ... like a man.
Posted by: Ms Swan at August 11, 2018 02:02 PM (yQpMk)

A man with the power. (What power?)

The power of hoodoo. (Who do?)

You do. (What?)

Look like a man. (What man?)

etc.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 02:06 PM (/qEW2)

400 I mowed the front yard. I wasn't feeling very motivated and got a late start. As I was finishing the front, I looked up and saw black clouds to the west. I needed a break anyway so I went inside to look at the weather map. Sure enough, there's a storm bearing down on me. I can hear the thunder getting closer. It must have formed suddenly because it wasn't on the map when I first went out. I thought I'd be able to do the whole yard, but that looks like it for today.

Posted by: rickl at August 11, 2018 02:09 PM (sdi6R)

401 Everyone has superstitions. Everyone.

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Donks winning in November is bad luck.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 02:09 PM (+y/Ru)

402 Aaand here comes the lightning.

Posted by: rickl at August 11, 2018 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

403 Now... what happens when ANY of that breaks down?
BurtTC at August 11, 2018 12:30 PM

I have to fix it

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 02:12 PM (lxZ71)

404 So Breitbart is running the new James Gunn pedo party pictures story. Looks like the Daily Caller as well. Pedos and Pedo apologists and enablers are having the heat turned up on them while controlled opposition like Joe Rogan ignores it or lobs softballs to the sickos.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/ 11/photos-surface-of-guardians-director- james-gunn-at-pedophilia-themed-party/

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 11, 2018 02:12 PM (9acFt)

405 Storm skirted by me, very little rain, lots of thunder

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 02:13 PM (lxZ71)

406 It's raining here too and thinking if Donks win in November is bad luck is not superstition. It's a fact.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 02:13 PM (EeUIW)

407 Aaand here comes the lightning.
Posted by: rickl at August 11, 2018 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

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It's been like that here in NW GA this summer too. A thunderstorm every day in the late afternoon/early evening.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 11, 2018 02:14 PM (I16G8)

408 It's raining pretty hard now.

Posted by: rickl at August 11, 2018 02:16 PM (sdi6R)

409 Use paper straws use paper bags
Use waxed paper

Posted by: Comrade at August 11, 2018 02:18 PM (Q5Zjv)

410 Plastic straws come from China
Buy American paper straws or give your money to the Chinese

Posted by: Comrade at August 11, 2018 02:20 PM (Q5Zjv)

411 Save a tree use plastic straws.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 02:22 PM (EeUIW)

412 Ethan van Sciver's videos are starting to be flagged "Warning: some people may find the content of this video offensive. Click to proceed". Youtube really is inching their way towards fascism. You can't even say "Disney Star Wars sucks" any more. Zombie had a similar incident the other day.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 02:30 PM (/qEW2)

413 410 Plastic straws come from China
Buy American paper straws or give your money to the Chinese
Posted by: Comrade at August 11, 2018 02:20 PM (Q5Zjv)
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But I want to help my comrades in China so they can continue to help my comrades in Congress.
Why would I want to buy from American workers? The kind who make straws are knuckle-dragging, flag-waving Trumpkins.

Yet the Holy Ones have told me that plastic straws are a sin. What shall I do?

It's hard being a good commie today.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 11, 2018 02:36 PM (0jtPF)

414 The big providers make it much easier to get in the door than smaller one's.

Using adblocker and noscript one can still enter utube. And to view a video all that's necessary is clicking "allow" in noscript. Vimeo, it's necessary to turn noscript off and reboot the browser.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 02:38 PM (EeUIW)

415 Badmouthing Hollywood will soon be a crime.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 11, 2018 02:39 PM (9acFt)

416 Democrat Politician Who Protested Dallas NRA Show Pleads Guilty To Corruption Charges

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Mayor pro tem who protested NRA coming to town. Seems he forgot to pay taxes on $450,000 in bribes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 02:42 PM (+y/Ru)

417 Just what we need. More motherthuggers in government.

Michael 'St. Swisher' Brown's Mother Announces Run For Ferguson City Council

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

418 Donny Two Scoops defends Nanzi:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Democrats, please do not distance yourselves from Nancy Pelosi. She is a wonderful person whose ideas and policies may be bad, but who should definitely be given a 4th chance. She is trying very hard and has every right to take down the Democrat Party if she has veered too far left!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 11, 2018 02:47 PM (+y/Ru)

419 I honestly wouldn't mind the paper straws, IF THEY ACTUALLY WORKED! Halfway through my iced tea, the middle usually just disintegrates and I need a new one. I learned this while in Hawaii earlier, as they are even more progressive than the idiots here in CA. But CA is right on their heels.

Posted by: keena at August 11, 2018 02:49 PM (RiTnx)

420 Early pet nood.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 11, 2018 02:50 PM (/qEW2)

421 A W, he wasn't the only one. The former Superintendent of DISD made off with 3.5 mil. Taxpayers are going to have to pick up the tab. Not looking so good for the D's going into Nov.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2018 02:52 PM (lsT7+)

422 The face of Antifa
https://lidblog.com/mugshots-antifa/

Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 03:08 PM (lxZ71)

423 Just informed via email that infidel has lost her Dad.

I'll let you know who let me know when I learn her nic. She can't post today for some reason.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 11, 2018 03:13 PM (BVQ+1)

424 422 The face of Antifa
https://lidblog.com/mugshots-antifa/
Posted by: Skip at August 11, 2018 03:08 PM (lxZ71)

They look demonic. Yeesh.

Posted by: rickl at August 11, 2018 03:21 PM (sdi6R)

425
Infidel has been posting today, both in this thread and the EMT.

Regarding the weirdo link on the sidebar - just what in Hell is a "feminine chaos dragon"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2018 03:22 PM (pNxlR)

426 Regarding the weirdo link on the sidebar - just what in Hell is a "feminine chaos dragon"?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

https://tinyurl.com/y7qey92g

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2018 03:51 PM (P1f+c)

427 Donny Two Scoops defends Nanzi:
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Br'er Trump, gettin' his reverse psychology on.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2018 03:54 PM (P1f+c)

428 tablet sign in

Posted by: andycanuck at August 11, 2018 04:01 PM (Evws/)

429 Br'er Trump, gettin' his reverse psychology on.
Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2018 03:54 PM (P1f+c)

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Not even. That was just the Grand Galactic Sith Overlord of trolling having himself a good time at Nanzi's expense.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 11, 2018 04:23 PM (I16G8)

430 Prayers for _ infidel _ and her Dad.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 04:35 PM (fagTl)

431 Sort of my point... Br'er Rabbit wasn't playing 9-dimesional chess against a sooper genius, he was asking his opponent to do something blatantly stupid.

But his opponent did it anyway.

Posted by: mikeski at August 11, 2018 04:35 PM (P1f+c)

432 He says hundreds of bikers have joined him in Bedminster. Is that close to Bestvirginia?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 04:48 PM (fagTl)

433 Donald J. Trump 2h
@realDonaldTrump

....Do you believe Nelly worked for Fusion and her husband STILL WORKS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. I have never seen anything so Rigged in my life. Our A.G. is scared stiff and Missing in Action. It is all starting to be revealed - not pretty. IG Report soon? Witch Hunt!

Posted by: Braenyard at August 11, 2018 04:50 PM (fagTl)

434 the stirrup

water chlorination

Posted by: vbmoneyspender at August 11, 2018 05:08 PM (SOZ4U)

435 The arch, concrete, the optical lens, the decimal point, double-entry bookkeeping, distilling

Posted by: Barry Jacobs at August 11, 2018 05:08 PM (KVAHY)

436 Teh Donald is going off in his twatters.

"scared stiff and Missing in Action"

I'll defer to those who have everything figured out to voxsplain stuff like this.

And "Ohr and his beautiful wife, Nelly (sic, I think)"

Wow. That's just mean. I love it. Though it doesn't help move the ball.

Trump calls L. Page "the lovely Lisa Page". Presumably also a troll, though with her makeover and if she keeps her mouth shut to hide those horse chompers, she's not as homely as, um, Ohr's "beautiful wife".

Posted by: rhomboid at August 11, 2018 05:11 PM (QDnY+)

437 Trump's will launch a counter-strike after Labor Day. Like Zhukov at the gates of Moscow. We're about to hear the sounds of 1000 T-34s gunning their engines.

Meanwhile, here are some of the guests on tomorrow's Sunday Morning Programs.

NBC's "Meet the Press" Omarosa Manigault Newman, humping her new tell-all about Trump; Gov. John Kasich

CBS' "Face the Nation" Charlottesville, Va., Mayor Nikuyah Walker; Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va

ABC's "This Week" Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md.; Michael Avenatti, attorney for Stormy Daniels, who's flirting with running for President,because the Ds need a fighter, ISYN

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 11, 2018 05:20 PM (1UZdv)

438 Ignoramus, let's hope Trump's operation is much better than Operation Mars, which was not so hot in the end (my next book, after I zip thru this bio of Deak Parsons, A-bomb ordnance guy who armed Little Boy en route).

And I wonder about a "counter-strike".

Unless Horowitz changes his MO and delivers a straight, therefore devastating and incriminating, report on FISA abuse, the only action that would affect any of the dumb "independents" and other LIVs would be indictments.

Trump declassifying everything in the universe will have almost zero effect. Why do people keep thinking there'll suddenly be a different country - different electorate, an actual press, a depoliticized pop culture - every time some new stage is reached in this ridiculous saga?

So we'll see. Indictments, pleas, convictions, suicides.

Even those will leave up to 40% of the electorate unaffected, because they no longer/never did really share basic American values about rule of law - they're just Russians, 1930s Germans, or any number of other alien authoritarian-leaning foreigners born in the wrong country.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 11, 2018 05:28 PM (QDnY+)

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