Thread before the Gardening Thread: Art, Not Gardening [KT]

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Okay, a pile of dirt is involved, but this does not qualify as urban gardening. It is called 'Resistencia'. Video below the fold. David Thompson posted a longer video of a similar performance here. You might like to take a look through the comments.

You see, Ms Lopez describes her mission as nothing less than "expanding the consciousness of human beings." As will doubtless become clear.

She seems to like the pose above. Dirt, water, who knows which medium will inspire her, and us, next? You may need to scroll past some other works of art to reach her interaction with water.

By way of contrast, in case you missed it earlier, VDH discusses the history of The Good Populism in ancient Greece and beyond. (H/T Maggie's Farm) He notes the importance of middle class agrarians to the emergence of democracy. Agrarians who produced something more tangible than the art featured today. When nature cooperated, anyway. Farmers, gardeners, those types.

The mesoi, or "middle guys," both predated and remained somewhat at odds with contemporary radical Athenian democracy. Yet these agrarian property-owning classes were also originally responsible for the Greek city-state and thus for Western civilization itself. The Jeffersonian idea of preserving ownership of a family plot, and passing on farms through codified inheritance laws and property rights, were the themes of the constitutions of the early polis. The citizen--neither a peasant nor a subject--remained rooted to a particular plot of ground, and thereby enjoyed the tripartite rights of citizenship: military service, voting rights in the assembly, and the ability to be self-supporting and autonomous. The mesoi, then, lent stability to otherwise often volatile consensual politics.

Back to today's Art.

And here's the video where Roger Kimball introduces VDH, who discusses The Good Populism, among other things. His grandmother understood something. The Q and A is interesting.

Hope you have a great weekend. Hope your life does not imitate today's art.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:45 AM

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1 Good. Getting slightly tacky in the last thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:18 AM (gUCYC)

2 I am so evil. I look at that "art" and all I can think of is replacing the dirt with Quickcrete and applying water.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 21, 2018 11:21 AM (WEBkv)

3 Her soles are dirty.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:21 AM (lwiT4)

4 Whoa, I actually have a relevant-to-the-topic comment:

AHAHHAHAHAHA

*gasp, pant*

HAHAHHAHAAeheeheheeheee

YOUR HEAD IS IN DIRT

AHAAHAHAHAHAAAA

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:21 AM (y87Qq)

5 And why does she have three shoes?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:22 AM (lwiT4)

6
No advice on what to plant in that pile of dirt, besides ones forehead?

This is the very worst gardening thread ever.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:22 AM (LOgQ4)

7 Good. Getting slightly tacky in the last thread.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:18 AM (gUCYC)

Alcohol is a good solvent for removing tackiness.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 11:22 AM (9BLnV)

8 that's hilarious

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 11:23 AM (hMwEB)

9 I wonder if our "artist" lists Yucko Oh No as one of her inspirations?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 11:24 AM (9BLnV)

10 Not sure, but my mother may have golfed that course. I'll have to call and ask.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:24 AM (lwiT4)

11 What is the point of the broad with the dirt?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:24 AM (SiINZ)

12 That top pic is called "The child support position".

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 21, 2018 11:24 AM (PoGrh)

13
What is the point of the broad with the dirt?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:24 AM (SiINZ)

Womynz Studeez Progegt.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:25 AM (lwiT4)

14 Please note the beautiful detail in the church door behind her. Actual art.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:25 AM (gUCYC)

15 People clapped? What are they - nuts?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:27 AM (lwiT4)

16 I looked at the weather map and it looks like it will start raining shortly. Guess I can't cut the grass today. Oh drat.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:27 AM (sdi6R)

17 o/t:

so, i'm idly listening to the commentary on the british open as i catch up on the internet news (cf previous thread) and what's this? - tiger woods, who entered the day at even par and far off the leader board, is in the lead at -6!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 21, 2018 11:28 AM (Pg+x7)

18 If there were a giant boot on a circular swivel placed just behind her, I would enthusiastically applaud this art.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 11:28 AM (k1TUh)

19 The Manure Whisperer Whispers.

Posted by: ro-man at July 21, 2018 11:29 AM (RuIsu)

20 15 People clapped? What are they - nuts?
Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:27 AM (lwiT4)
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Well, if she was yapping the whole time and then finally shut up once she'd fully inserted her head, then, yes, I can see people clapping.*

*Note: No, I didn't watch, just tossing out some ideas.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 21, 2018 11:29 AM (WEBkv)

21 I shall subtitle today's art:

Resistencia- Life in the Days Before Shovels and Wheelbarrows, a Redistributive Endeavor.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:29 AM (m45I2)

22 tiger woods, who entered the day at even par and far off the leader board, is in the lead at -6!

The faster that guy goes away, the better it is for golf IMO

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:30 AM (lwiT4)

23 That's nice dear. Be sure to wash up before dinner!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:30 AM (m45I2)

24 "Oh, i get it now, the dirt symbolizes---"

"NO! It doesn't symbolize anything! It's beyond comprehension! You have to FEEL the art!"

"Uh... ok then, so i suppose your piece must mean---"

"SHUT UP! Stop trying to apply your phallocentric words and ideas to my ART! You could never understand it! Why are you oppressing MEEEEE!?!?!"

"..."

*slowly walks away, backwards*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 11:30 AM (BRvh1)

25 Kind of like Brett Favre.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:31 AM (lwiT4)

26 My nephews did an art piece very similar with a shovel and a garden hose. Made their own little backyard mud puddle/swimming pool they did. They were 5 and 3 y/o at the time.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (m45I2)

27
I hope she purchased good soil for her art, because if it's manure she'll be considered a rank amateur.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (LOgQ4)

28 Some idiot American at the Open yelled "dilly dilly."

Dude, you're at the Open. Come on.

Posted by: TickledPink at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (TL2pK)

29 Not real art, in all seriousness, because she doesn't even get close to shoving it up her hoo-hah. That's the only real art there is.

Also, no trees.

(Although she may have smoked a couple trees just before thinking up this malarkey...)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (BRvh1)

30 I hope she purchased good soil for her art, because if it's manure she'll be considered a rank amateur.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (LOgQ4)

----------------

heh.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 21, 2018 11:33 AM (WEBkv)

31 People clapped? What are they - nuts?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:27 AM (lwiT4)

It takes some real talent to shove your head in a pile of dirt.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:33 AM (SiINZ)

32 Oh wait a second. It's like all symbolic and sh*t, right. Now I get it.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:34 AM (m45I2)

33 Head in the sand, I could see. Head in the dirt? I don't have a clue.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:34 AM (lwiT4)

34 Behold The Resistance!

Posted by: Max Power at July 21, 2018 11:35 AM (QCc6B)

35 The dirt symbolizes the planet Mother Gaia, and the head is anthropogenic global warming destroying the Earth Goddess. Why it's downright Al-Gorical.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:35 AM (m45I2)

36 Lopez describes her mission as nothing less than "expanding the consciousness "...

And by "conciousness", she means "government'.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 21, 2018 11:35 AM (Ndje9)

37 The pile of dirt symbolizes a strung out arts-and-farces grad student with too much time and funding on her hands.

The strung out arts-and-farces grad student symbolizes a pile of dirt.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 11:35 AM (BRvh1)

38 This is the kind of thing you get as a warning shot whenever someone declares "x is not art". People like her hear that and it's off to the races.

"Not art? NOT ART? I'LL show you not art!"

*waits for head to germinate*

p.s. Srta. López has a vegan blog because of course she does

http://monicalopezdolz.wixsite.com/veganik

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:36 AM (y87Qq)

39 That's nice dear. Be sure to wash up before dinner!
Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:30 AM (m45I2)

Oh, and I hear Walmart is hiring, want me to get you an application?

No?

How are your classes going? What are you taking this semester... pottery? Oh sorry, Women's perspectives on the oppression of pottery. I should have known.

You seem to have... what, about 480 credit hours now. Any closer to an actual degree?

Oh yes, sorry. A degree is rayciss. My apologies to you. And your race. Which is... what, now?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:36 AM (cY3LT)

40 32 Oh wait a second. It's like all symbolic and sh*t, right. Now I get it.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:34 AM (m45I2)

---------------------

You want symbolic art? Here you go:

https://tinyurl.com/cmw5rlo

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 21, 2018 11:36 AM (WEBkv)

41 You know how vacuum cleaner salesmen used to sprinkle dirt on the floor to show the efficacy of their wares? Maybe she's trying to become a shampoo salesman.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 11:37 AM (/qEW2)

42 p.s. Srta. L�pez has a vegan blog because of course she does

http://monicalopezdolz.wixsite.com/veganik

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:36 AM (y87Qq)

Oh my. Her picture is on her blog. Putting her head in the dirt makes much more sense now.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:38 AM (lwiT4)

43 I clicked on the link to see the other photos

I can see why they like to cover their faces with dirt, paper bags,water...their

on a serious note, it's the kind of modern art that fetishizes alienation, despair, gloom.

Very shallow and adolescent.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 11:38 AM (hMwEB)

44
♫ Dirt can't hide from intensified Tide ♫

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:38 AM (LOgQ4)

45 This is your brain on vegan.

Posted by: ro-man at July 21, 2018 11:38 AM (RuIsu)

46
That's the fanciest bike rack I've ever seen

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (10vO4)

47 I hope she purchased good soil for her art, because if it's manure she'll be considered a rank amateur.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (LOgQ4)

Purchased.

Hah! Oh that's rich. Fraught with irony. And electrolytes!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (cY3LT)

48 I bet her parents paid top dollar for an art degree so that she could "expand our consciousness" by sticking her head in a mound of dirt. Is she now being supported by an NEA grant?

So very silly.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (W+vEI)

49 So, what happens when two vortex rings collide?

Well, first you have to make it work, then you have to figure out what it means.

This is the second video I have stumbled on that says what I believe deeply: we learn more from failure that success.

https://youtu.be/EVbdbVhzcM4

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (2K6fY)

50 Noooooo, not mentally ill. Not mentally ill at all...

Posted by: tu3031 at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (O5Q3r)

51 Used to hate Here Comes Sunshine

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (PUmDY)

52 She was trying to portray an ostrich, but she ended up getting too emu-tional. Ended up looking like a real dodo.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:40 AM (m45I2)

53 interesting subject ... it is concerning to see those fake paper trillions made in leveraged gambling casinos (markets where the 2Big2Fail/Jail get bailouts) ... those trillions are buying up the countryside, and the proles are pushed into little boxes in the metropolis.

Mass production may be efficient, and bulldozing everything in the way, but the family farm should get the tax incentives, not the farm "conglomerate" that buys up everything he can, using "outside billionaire" funny money from the inflated markets.

Local bankers back in depression days were shrewd enough, and farmers struggled to hold on to the farm if they had debt. But if we let the funny money trillionaires buy up the land itself, and the people become the non-owner servant class, we lose 'America' and liberty goes with it.

I'm listening to VDH now, thanks for that link.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2018 11:40 AM (bT8Z4)

54 This was from her Blue Emu period.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:40 AM (m45I2)

55 You see, Ms Lopez describes her mission as nothing less than "expanding the consciousness of human beings."

Why yes, I see the world and life in a whole new way after she stuck her head in a pile of dirt. Gee, I never would have achieved this level of understanding of the human condition if she hadn't stuck her head in a pile of dirt.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:40 AM (SiINZ)

56 I don't know about art, but she'd be useful to take along on a rabbit hunt.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 11:40 AM (/qEW2)

57 The faster that guy goes away, the better it is for golf IMO
Posted by: grammie winger

H8R.

I didn't care about golf until 1997 when he appeared and I stopped caring while he was gone.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (fuK7c)

58 Is the artiste presenting? And if so why is she wearing pants?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (nBr1j)

59 That's gonna be some filthy boogers when she blows her nose but maybe that's part of her art.

Posted by: mpfs at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (UpyDE)

60 Her food pictures are very nicely done.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (lwiT4)

61 Apologies to any horde vegans, but the Venn diagram of the sets of Vegan and Crazy have a lot of overlap.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (hMwEB)

62 I love how she uses the last cod of dirt, symbolizing willful blindness I guess, to blot out the sun of reason.

Heavy, man!

Composting hippies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR7wQ9c_-6Q

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (gUCYC)

63 My nephews did an art piece very similar with a
shovel and a garden hose. Made their own little backyard mud
puddle/swimming pool they did. They were 5 and 3 y/o at the time.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM (m45I2)

See! a 5 YO can understand Marx' labor theory!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (2K6fY)

64 er . . . labor theory of value.

Joke is lamer without that last word

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 11:42 AM (2K6fY)

65 Noooooo, not mentally ill. Not mentally ill at all...

Posted by: tu3031 at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM (O5Q3r)

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y92mynyp

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Where's the Captain at July 21, 2018 11:42 AM (V8bv6)

66 This is your brain on Toxoplasmosis.

Posted by: ro-man at July 21, 2018 11:42 AM (RuIsu)

67
The glory of gardening: head in the dirt, body in the sun, heart with nature. To nurture a garden is to feed not just the body, but the soul.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:42 AM (LOgQ4)

68 >>She was trying to portray an ostrich, but she ended up getting too emu-tional. Ended up looking like a real dodo.

She's failed her attempt to gopher something artsy?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 21, 2018 11:43 AM (W+vEI)

69
Gee, I never knew that as a kid playing in the dirt was high art. All I ever got was my parents yelling at me for getting my clothes dirty and don't bring that dirt in the house

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:43 AM (SiINZ)

70 If she was really trying to symbolize The Resistance, she would have to stick her head up her ass.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:43 AM (sdi6R)

71
Look at all the dirt in those ears. You could grow a potato in there.

Posted by: The Artists Mother at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (LOgQ4)

72 If she's the one who did her food photography, she should stick to that. Maybe they are stock photos though.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (lwiT4)

73 I don't know about art, but she'd be useful to take along on a rabbit hunt.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 11:40 AM (/qEW2)

I just know some of us owe CBD an apology for criticizing the art he posts.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (cY3LT)

74 I tjink we should capture human natural gas. People shoould fart into specially designed containors and seal them. Then send it to the governnemt to produce electricityy. This would help solve Globall Warning !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (qM84C)

75 70 If she was really trying to symbolize The Resistance, she would have to stick her head up her ass.

Okay... coffee through nose!

Posted by: It's me donna at July 21, 2018 11:45 AM (O2RFr)

76 72 If she's the one who did her food photography, she should stick to that. Maybe they are stock photos though.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (lwiT4)

the puppy dessert thingies are cute

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 11:46 AM (hMwEB)

77 Mole #1 : Mmmm, I smell pancakes!

Mole #2 : Mmmm, I smell pancakes!

Artiste Lopez: Hm. All I smell is mole-asses!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:46 AM (m45I2)

78 71
Look at all the dirt in those ears. You could grow a potato in there.
Posted by: The Artists Mother at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (LOgQ4)
----
Does anybody remember a children's story where a little girl refused to bathe for weeks, so her mom snuck (sneaked?) into her bedroom while she was asleep and planted radishes in the dirt. The girl ran down the staircase screaming one morning because a garden sprouted on her.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:46 AM (gUCYC)

79 If she was really trying to symbolize The Resistance, she would have to stick her head up her ass.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:43 AM (sdi6R)

Truthfully, seeing her pose... my assumption is that she was molested as a child.

Not even kidding.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:47 AM (cY3LT)

80 Oh bother, I'm stuck again.

/Winnie Lopez the Poo

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:47 AM (m45I2)

81 Her food pictures are very nicely done.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (lwiT4)

A lot of the food looks really good, too. There's nothing objectively wrong with vegan food, done well, it's just usually served as a garnish for a big slice of completely bugnuts philosophy. And yep, in the interview under the "conóceme mejor" link, it's bugnuts all the way down.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:47 AM (y87Qq)

82 Be funny if someone played a practical joke on her. Fill the dirt with chiggers, earwigs, earthworms, etc.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

83 the puppy dessert thingies are cute

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 11:46 AM (hMwEB)

Barry O: Puppy desserts? Sounds yummy!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:47 AM (SiINZ)

84
Earth Day was always a big event in our household.

Posted by: The Artists Mother at July 21, 2018 11:48 AM (LOgQ4)

85 So, what happens when two vortex rings collide?

Well, first you have to make it work, then you have to figure out what it means.

This is the second video I have stumbled on that says what I believe deeply: we learn more from failure that success.

https://youtu.be/EVbdbVhzcM4

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM

that is wicked cool

thx, Kindltot

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 21, 2018 11:48 AM (KCxzN)

86 Great insightful piece by VDH on populism and the phenomenon of Trump.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 11:48 AM (CSNuj)

87 I tjink we should capture human natural gas. People shoould fart into specially designed containors and seal them. Then send it to the governnemt to produce electricityy. This would help solve Globall Warning !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (qM84C)

How much are they willing to pay for it Mary? Because I have enough natural gas to power North America for the next century

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:49 AM (SiINZ)

88 This is your brain on Toxoplasmosis.
Posted by: ro-man at July 21, 2018 11:42 AM (RuIsu)

HEY

Not cool, man. Some of my ~~onlybest friends are cat-borne brainworms.~~

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:49 AM (y87Qq)

89 ... she'd be useful to take along on a rabbit hunt...

******

...and she ain't no friend of mine.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:49 AM (m45I2)

90 73
I just know some of us owe CBD an apology for criticizing the art he posts.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (cY3LT)

*ponders*

No, I'd still prefer her to Naked Guy on an Ottoman.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:49 AM (sdi6R)

91 It takes some real talent to shove your head in a pile of dirt.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:33 AM (SiINZ)

---------

And to think, Michelangelo wasted all that time chipping away at pieces of rock.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 11:50 AM (CSNuj)

92 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR7wQ9c_-6Q
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (gUCYC)

Beat me to it. "We sow the seed. Nature grows the seed. We eat the seed". A classic.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 11:51 AM (/qEW2)

93 It takes some real talent to shove your head in a pile of dirt.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:33 AM (SiINZ)

And to think, Michelangelo wasted all that time chipping away at pieces of rock.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 11:50 AM (CSNuj)

Imagine what she could accomplish by chipping away at pieces of rock with her head.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 11:51 AM (y87Qq)

94 Just finished VDH's "Second World Wars" this week. Scanned the bibliography (30+ pages), since as one would expect it's pretty comprehensive, and a good resource for plotting future WWII reading.

Started "The Greatest Battle" (Nagorski) about the Battle of Moscow. Yeah yeah not Sunday morning but VDH so pipe down.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 21, 2018 11:51 AM (QDnY+)

95 Hmmm. I notice on her website that a great many of her vegan recipes are basically ....chocolate. And sugar.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 11:53 AM (0jtPF)

96 for the MotherEarth Gaia believer, perhaps the head in dirt worship could reveal some deep (weird) thoughts. But a chemistry degree, or at least an agronomy class, would be much more helpful in understanding the dynamics of "dirt".

I do no-till farming, so I feel really bad for that soil that was taken from its family, basically murdered with its tilth stolen from it, and then its lifeless corpse put on display in some concrete sterile environment. But it is befitting that she has her head up ... where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (bT8Z4)

97
It takes some real talent to shove your head in a pile of dirt.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:33 AM (SiINZ)

At least she showed some common decency and wore clothes. Which is more than you can say about most artist

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (10vO4)

98 Repost for CM-

CM, if you're still around, sorry I didn't respond earlier about the job prospects. I went back to the EMT and saw your experience description. I don't know anybody in that field.

I am sorry about that.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 11:50 AM (lT+xq)

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (lT+xq)

99 Speaking of digging in dirt, Buckley the Wonder Dog found an entire deer leg (looks like the femur and still-articulated lower leg of probably a fawn) in the woods last week. He brought it back to the cabin and slunk (slinked?) around for twenty minutes trying to find the best spot, dug a fairly good-sized hole, dropped the leg in and covered it back up by shoveling dirt with his snout. Since then he has dug it up and relocated it to a different spot no fewer than 5 times.

He looks worried.

Like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2B8988ws0

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (m45I2)

100
Stronger than dirt

https://youtu.be/4SkEMUydZ7w

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (IqV8l)

101 It takes some real talent to shove your head in a pile of dirt.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:33 AM (SiINZ)

At least she showed some common decency and wore clothes. Which is more than you can say about most artist
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (10vO4)

Evidently you did not click the link to her website.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:55 AM (cY3LT)

102 If only that was a pile of horseshit it would be a great metaphor for modern progressivism.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 11:56 AM (CSNuj)

103
Evidently you did not click the link to her website.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:55 AM (cY3LT)

No, no I didn't. I take it I should retract my previous comment.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 11:57 AM (10vO4)

104 With any luck that will become the progressive version of the Last Supper.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 21, 2018 11:58 AM (9Om/r)

105 Eric Blair wrote something to the effect in "Burmese Days" that those who call themselves an "artist" are usually lazy and untalented.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (EoRCO)

106 I am so evil. I look at that "art" and all I can think of is replacing the dirt with Quickcrete and applying water.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 21, 2018 11:21 AM (WEBkv)

I was thinking introducing a horny burro to the venue would be entertaining.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (bNb8V)

107 https://youtu.be/EVbdbVhzcM4

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM

That was amazing. Far more real art than whatever Miss Fussbudget is doing to that dirt.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (EhZNT)

108
This piece speaks to me. A cautionary tale of life's brutal truth; if you don't keep moving, they throw dirt on you. Yet this artist has plunged not only metaphorically but physically head first into that conundrum.

Posted by: Art Critic at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (LOgQ4)

109 Gee, I never knew that as a kid playing in the dirt was high art. All I ever got was my parents yelling at me for getting my clothes dirty and don't bring that dirt in the house
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:43 AM (SiINZ)
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My brother's first three kids were boys. Three boys in five years. My sister-in-law, who had no brothers, took it all in stride. She'd make them strip at the back door and hose them down before they came in from playing in the mud.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:00 PM (JJZzu)

110 Repost for CM-

CM, if you're still around, sorry I didn't respond earlier about the job prospects. I went back to the EMT and saw your experience description. I don't know anybody in that field.

I am sorry about that.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 11:50 AM (lT+xq)

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I am here, and I thank you for going back to check on it, and for even worrying about in the first place. Be well.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 12:00 PM (+1YDx)

111 Does anybody remember a children's story where a little girl refused to bathe for weeks, so her mom snuck (sneaked?) into her bedroom while she was asleep and planted radishes in the dirt. The girl ran down the staircase screaming one morning because a garden sprouted on her.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 11:46 AM (gUCYC)
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*raises hand*

I think that was from a Mrs. Piggle Wiggle book.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:02 PM (JJZzu)

112 Since then he has dug it up and relocated it to a different spot no fewer than 5 times.

He looks worried.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM

Maybe if you'd stop watching he'd stop having to change the spot he buried his treasure.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 12:02 PM (LOgQ4)

113 95 Hmmm. I notice on her website that a great many of her vegan recipes are basically ....chocolate. And sugar.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 11:53 AM (0jtPF)

Oreos are vegan. In rat studies, Oreos are as or more addictive than cocaine.

She should shove her head in crushed Oreos

Posted by: batterup at July 21, 2018 12:02 PM (U2JQS)

114 I was thinking introducing a horny burro to the venue would be entertaining.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (bNb8V)

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Don't even need to go that far. Just let your dog be a dog and let them stick their nose wherever. Then, stand back and watch that head come out of the dirt like it has a sudden date with a bottle of Suave.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 21, 2018 12:03 PM (WEBkv)

115 I tjink we should capture human natural gas. People shoould fart into specially designed containors and seal them. Then send it to the governnemt to produce electricityy. This would help solve Globall Warning !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 21, 2018 11:44 AM (qM84C)

Reeeeeeeee! You need to be placed in a re-education camp! Cattle farts are one of the primary causes of global warming! We've only just begun studying the long-term effects of the cutting of the cheese by humans! Knowing that mankind is responsible for all the evil in the world, I'm sure that human farts, braks, pfffts, SBD's, and greasers are much worse than livestock emissions.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:03 PM (9BLnV)

116 I think that was from a Mrs. Piggle Wiggle book.
Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:02 PM (JJZzu)

Was she from the Piggly Wiggly grocery store dynasty?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:05 PM (9BLnV)

117 Evidently you did not click the link to her website.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 11:55 AM (cY3LT)

No, no I didn't. I take it I should retract my previous comment.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 11:57 AM (10vO4)

Yes. She gets nekkid. Common decency, she has not.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 12:06 PM (cY3LT)

118
This piece speaks to me. A cautionary tale of life's brutal truth; if you don't keep moving, they throw dirt on you. Yet this artist has plunged not only metaphorically but physically head first into that conundrum.

Posted by: Art Critic at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (LOgQ4)

I guess we should be thankful she didn't use life's other brutal truth for her art. Sometimes you're the wall and people throw s*** at you to see if it sticks.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 12:07 PM (10vO4)

119
This piece speaks to me. A cautionary tale of life's brutal truth; if you don't keep moving, they throw dirt on you. Yet this artist has plunged not only metaphorically but physically head first into that conundrum.
Posted by: Art Critic at July 21, 2018 11:59 AM (LOgQ4)

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Indeed. The piece has a daring integrity to it. The artist at once demonstrates a fine technical mastery while challenging the observer to question his own assumptions about dirt, and sticking one's head right in it.

*puffs pipe thoughtfully*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 12:08 PM (CSNuj)

120
Was she from the Piggly Wiggly grocery store dynasty?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:05 PM (9BLnV)
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I've no idea, but I've often wondered the same.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:08 PM (JJZzu)

121 I DON'T GET IT.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at July 21, 2018 12:08 PM (k1TUh)

122 She saw Emma Sulkowicz toting around a mattress and thought "F*ck that shit. That's too tiring. I'll just stick my head in a pile of dirt". Work smarter, not harder.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 12:09 PM (/qEW2)

123 121 I DON'T GET IT.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at July 21, 2018 12:08 PM (k1TUh)

She was digging for bait.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 12:10 PM (lT+xq)

124 You see, Ms Lopez describes her mission as nothing less than "expanding the consciousness of human beings."

By viewing her art, my consciousness has been expanded. Now, I want to expand Ms. Lopez's consciousness by taking a dump on her ass while she's communing with her dirt.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:10 PM (9BLnV)

125 61 Apologies to any horde vegans, but the Venn diagram of the sets of Vegan and Crazy have a lot of overlap.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 11:41 AM (hMwEB)

I guarantee that any vegan who will not use any animal products, even wool or milk, because it is immoral to appropriate what an animal has produced --
believes that the fruits of productive humans should be appropriated by and distributed to The People.

Posted by: Emmie at July 21, 2018 12:10 PM (4HMW8)

126 Sitting in a hotel room in Prague, after an exhausting day of sightseeing, and when I say sightseeing, I mean, holy crap, are there a lot of good looking wimmenz in Prague. I noted this to my wife, who was not even remotely amused.

But I digress. The new ploy by the street beggars is to bow down like you're worshiping Mecca, very much like the picture above, but with your hands extended in prayer before you, and, of course, a collection cup in front of them. I'm ambling down the street, when a very attractive young lady in a short skirt joins the flow immediately in front of me. We're walking along, and pass Mecca man. Sure enough, his head pivots as if on an axle to watch sashaying girl. I busted out laughing and told him he'd just blown his cover.

He had no idea what I said, but I'm sure he knew what I meant.

Posted by: pep at July 21, 2018 12:10 PM (5GcKk)

127 Eric Blair wrote something to the effect in "Burmese Days" that those who call themselves an "artist" are usually lazy and untalented.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Hmm. George Orwell also wrote a book titled 'Burmese Days'. Interesting read. Kind of a precursor to 'The Ugly American'.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 12:11 PM (CDGwz)

128
I DON'T GET IT.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at July 21, 2018 12:08 PM (k1TUh)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU PLAY IN A SPORT WHERE THE OTHER TEAMS OBJECTIVE IS TO PLANT YOU LIKE THAT

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 12:12 PM (10vO4)

129 That's actually not her head in a pile of shit it's the result of it exploding after a PDT tweet.

Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2018 12:13 PM (UdKB7)

130 Remember the environmentalist group that was advocating having actual physical sex with Mother Earth, like dirt boinking?

Mother Humper - a limerick

I went up in the mountains north of Duncan
I thought that I would do some boulder chunkin'
Now Gaia, being flirty
Told me "Do it, down and dirty!"
"Oh screw the Earth, I'd rather go spelunkin!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:13 PM (m45I2)

131 You see, Ms Lopez describes her mission as nothing less than "expanding the consciousness of human beings."

By viewing her art, my consciousness has been expanded. Now, I want to expand Ms. Lopez's consciousness by taking a dump on her ass while she's communing with her dirt.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:10 PM (9BLnV)

I'll say this, and then I really do have to get on with my day.

Here's your consciousness-expanding: Way too many people are abused as children. Some of them sexually. All this nonsense we see, the gender ident doofuses, the rage spitters on the streets, the absolute nitwittery we see from so much of the left... it is for many, directly traceable to their abuse history. A direct line, from then to now.

Simple as that.

So yeah, let's expand our consciousness. You were abused as a child, and that's why you are acting out. So I'm sorry for that, but indulging your insanity? Yeah, no. It doesn't help you at all, so we're going to not do that.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 21, 2018 12:14 PM (cY3LT)

132 And to think, Michelangelo wasted all that time chipping away at pieces of rock.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 11:50 AM (CSNuj)

Well he wasn't a real artist like dirt head. Oh sure statues, paintings and some church ceiling. But he never hit the heights of sticking his head in a pile of dirt.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 12:14 PM (SiINZ)

133 So much for reading the content.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:14 PM (vV/gB)

134
I think the artist is well grounded, myself.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 12:15 PM (LOgQ4)

135 I have a daughter who played with being Vegan, but eventually settled on being "pescatarian". Which comes down to, she'll eat anything that doesn't have a cute little face with big brown eyes that make you go "awwwww...."

It's still annoying, but it'a lot easier to deal with than being a full vegan. Who ever thought a shrimp was cute, anyways?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:15 PM (k1TUh)

136 Remember the environmentalist group that was advocating having actual physical sex with Mother Earth, like dirt boinking?

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HEY, HEY, WE'RE EATING DOWN HERE!!!

Posted by: A Gopher at July 21, 2018 12:15 PM (CSNuj)

137 I wish Americans would learn from her and take her lesson to heart.

It would save me so much trouble if Americans would bury themselves.

Posted by: Nikita Khrushchev at July 21, 2018 12:16 PM (/qEW2)

138 That's actually not her head in a pile of shit it's the result of it exploding after a PDT tweet.
Posted by: freaked at July 21, 2018 12:13 PM (UdKB7)

I would say, I wonder what the treason humpers think about the $200 million in weapons etc to the Ukraine but I honestly drgaf what any of the mouth breathers think.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 12:16 PM (lT+xq)

139 My brother's first three kids were boys. Three boys in five years. My sister-in-law, who had no brothers, took it all in stride. She'd make them strip at the back door and hose them down before they came in from playing in the mud.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:00 PM (JJZzu)

boy noun:
a noise with dirt on it.

Posted by: Emmie at July 21, 2018 12:16 PM (4HMW8)

140 My brother's first three kids were boys. Three boys in five years. My sister-in-law, who had no brothers, took it all in stride. She'd make them strip at the back door and hose them down before they came in from playing in the mud.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:00 PM (JJZzu)

Kind of the treatment my brothers and I got. Except we got the lecture/yelling. Look at your clothes!! What did I tell you about...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 12:17 PM (SiINZ)

141
Will anyone criticize her if the piece is successful and she hits pay dirt?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 12:18 PM (LOgQ4)

142 pep, was there just for a few days years ago, but Prague was indeed an amazing pool of talent

Posted by: rhomboid at July 21, 2018 12:19 PM (QDnY+)

143 so, i'm idly listening to the commentary on the british open as i catch up on the internet news (cf previous thread) and what's this? - tiger woods, who entered the day at even par and far off the leader board, is in the lead at -6!

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Tiger Tiger burning bright?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)

144

You have to applaud the artists attempt to become filthy rich.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 12:21 PM (LOgQ4)

145 127--Hmm. George Orwell also wrote a book titled 'Burmese Days'. Interesting read. Kind of a precursor to 'The Ugly American'.
Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 12:11 PM (CDGwz)
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Eric Blair = George Orwell

I always wondered about that. You would think that "Eric Blair" would be the pen-name since it sounds handsome.
I mean, if you were writing a romance novel, you wouldn't name the hero "George Orwell" in preference to "Eric Blair," would you?

Then again, you might not want a pretty name for grim and serious work. In mid-20th-century terms, George wears glasses and Eric does not. And as Pol Pot would say, those folks with glasses are half-smart.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 12:21 PM (0jtPF)

146 I once considered moving to Czech Republic and specializing in diseases of the rectum. Would have been the world's first prague-tologist.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (m45I2)

147 I wonder what her Facebook picture looks like? Pretty sure I know what her LinkedIn portrait is.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (vV/gB)

148 Indeed. The piece has a daring integrity to it. The artist at once demonstrates a fine technical mastery while challenging the observer to question his own assumptions about dirt, and sticking one's head right in it.

*puffs pipe thoughtfully*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 12:08 PM (CSNuj)

*nods sagely, waiting for lull in conversation*

Say, which way to the canapés and fizzy drinks guy? I'm just here because someone said there'd be free food.

*blows bubbles from plastic pipe*

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (y87Qq)

149 I settled instead for moving to Egypt to become a cairo-practer.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (m45I2)

150 The real question is 'can she find truffles?'

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (vV/gB)

151 I think that was from a Mrs. Piggle Wiggle book.
Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:02 PM (JJZzu)
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Thanks BB! Weird how these things will resurface.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 12:23 PM (gUCYC)

152 Soil-ent Brown is peeeeeople!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:24 PM (m45I2)

153 Same thing with a man named "Anthony Daniels" picking the pen-name "Theodore Dalrymple."
You know who Pol Pot is going to come looking for.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 12:24 PM (0jtPF)

154 I went to dirt head's website. There has to be a nice padded room for her somewhere

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 12:24 PM (SiINZ)

155 So is that "art" a representation of the typical Democrat-voter? Head in the sand (dirt), ass in the air, waiting to get f'ed by the government?

Entitled: "Thank you, sir, may I have another?"

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 21, 2018 12:25 PM (7A4qQ)

156 Feminists don't need men to degrade them. If left alone, they'll end up doing it to themselves.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 12:25 PM (/qEW2)

157 Hi

Is there anyone available I could speak to about a "ban" issue?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:26 PM (eGFSg)

158 Is there anyone available I could speak to about a "ban" issue?"

Sure, talk to us. Why not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:27 PM (k1TUh)

159 boy noun:
a noise with dirt on it.
Posted by: Emmie at July 21, 2018 12:16 PM (4HMW

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+100

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (JJZzu)

160 Nothing against the people who like to garden and landscape but, I hate every aspect of both pursuits. My dream is to live in the desert where it is only gravel, rocks and few cactus. No weeds or green grass that needs to be picked or mowed.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (r9UYA)

161 MULDOOOON!!!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (EhZNT)

162 Sweet.

So I think ace hates me. Should I take this personally?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (eGFSg)

163 160 Nothing against the people who like to garden and landscape but, I hate every aspect of both pursuits. My dream is to live in the desert where it is only gravel, rocks and few cactus. No weeds or green grass that needs to be picked or mowed.

okay you're banned from the gardening thread.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (k1TUh)

164 This piece would have been improved had a collar and leash been added.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:29 PM (vV/gB)

165 To be honest, I'd prefer if leftists would "resist" this way instead of harassing them in restaurants and attacking them at free speech rallies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 12:30 PM (/qEW2)

166
Nothing against the people who like to garden and landscape but, I hate
every aspect of both pursuits. My dream is to live in the desert where
it is only gravel, rocks and few cactus. No weeds or green grass that
needs to be picked or mowed.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (r9UYA)

I wish a concrete truck would crash and break open in my yard.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 21, 2018 12:30 PM (9Om/r)

167 Is it Hate like Obama hates Trump, or is like how Ann Coulter "hates" Bill Maher?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:30 PM (k1TUh)

168 160 Nothing against the people who like to garden and landscape but, I hate every aspect of both pursuits. My dream is to live in the desert where it is only gravel, rocks and few cactus. No weeds or green grass that needs to be picked or mowed.
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Nothing nicer that gazing on the desert at noon and seeing all the lazy rattlesnakes lurking in the shade. Makes a man feel safe.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:31 PM (vV/gB)

169 I have a daughter who played with being Vegan, but eventually settled on being "pescatarian". Which comes down to, she'll eat anything that doesn't have a cute little face with big brown eyes that make you go "awwwww...."

It's still annoying, but it'a lot easier to deal with than being a full vegan. Who ever thought a shrimp was cute, anyways?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:15 PM (k1TUh)

My personal rule of thumb concerning choice of nutritional sources is that I will eat any thing that doesn't eat me first. That's pretty much it. OK, I'm not comfortable with the cannibal thing, Cannibal Bob, but I want to keep an open mind about it and am willing to have my consciousness expanded. As long as I don't have to stick my head in what I'm about to eat.

That reminds me of Tommy Boy: "I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:31 PM (9BLnV)

170 149 I settled instead for moving to Egypt to become a cairo-practer.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (m45I2)

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I don't think I could stand dealing with complaining old Gizas every day.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 12:31 PM (CSNuj)

171 >>I wish a concrete truck would crash and break open in my yard.

A few years ago I was seriously considering astroturf. As it turns out, it requires as much maintenance or more as a real lawn.

Ya can't win.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:32 PM (r9UYA)

172 So I think ace hates me. Should I take this personally?

******

Possibly.

Who's Ace?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:32 PM (m45I2)

173 Nika López visits San Francisco:

López: (*glances at sidewalk*) All right! Now we're talkin'! (*squats, starts to remove shoes*)

Friend: Uh ... Nika ... that's not a pile of dirt.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 12:33 PM (/qEW2)

174 160 Nothing against the people who like to garden and landscape but, I hate every aspect of both pursuits. My dream is to live in the desert where it is only gravel, rocks and few cactus. No weeds or green grass that needs to be picked or mowed.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (r9UYA)
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The beach!
Right on the beach.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 12:33 PM (0jtPF)

175 149 I settled instead for moving to Egypt to become a cairo-practer.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:22 PM (m45I2)

Guard your wallet. A lot of Thebes about.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 12:33 PM (EhZNT)

176 My personal rule of thumb concerning choice of nutritional sources is that I will eat any thing that doesn't eat me first.

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Yogi seemed nice in the cartoons. Don't be fooled.

Posted by: Timothy Treadwell at July 21, 2018 12:33 PM (CSNuj)

177 Dunno.

I use Comcast. Possibly he bans blocks for fun. But I maybe show up once or twice a year and like magic if I post on wifi *poof*.

Maybe in just not amicable. Would u ban me ?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:33 PM (eGFSg)

178 He had no idea what I said, but I'm sure he knew what I meant.
Posted by: pep at July 21, 2018 12:10 PM (5GcKk)

Those "collection cups" sound like great places to dispose of used chewing gum or cigarette butts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 21, 2018 12:34 PM (bNb8V)

179 I don't think I could stand dealing with complaining old Gizas every day.

*****

Chin up there, buckaroo. No need to be Nihilistic.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 12:34 PM (m45I2)

180 I like growing night shades though

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:34 PM (eGFSg)

181 A federal judge on Friday applauded Trump administration efforts to meet a deadline to reunite more than 2,500 children with their families after they were separated at the border.

"I'm just very impressed with the effort that has been made," U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw said. "It really does appear that great progress has been made."

Gee, I'm so glad that the country is revolving around what some judge wants. Just reunite them on the other side of the border

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 12:35 PM (SiINZ)

182 177 Dunno.

I use Comcast. Possibly he bans blocks for fun. But I maybe show up once or twice a year and like magic if I post on wifi *poof*.

Maybe in just not amicable. Would u ban me ?"

if what you say is true somehow your connection is looking like spam, for whatever reason, and tripping some automatic triggers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:35 PM (k1TUh)

183 A few years ago I was seriously considering astroturf. As it turns out, it requires as much maintenance or more as a real lawn.

Ya can't win.
Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:32 PM (r9UYA)

Maybe the Hair Club For Men or the Bosley's Advantage should get into the lawn maintenance business?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 21, 2018 12:35 PM (9BLnV)

184 Hey. Judges are the new masters.

Get used to it

Posted by: Shaneless at July 21, 2018 12:36 PM (eGFSg)

185 27

I hope she purchased good soil for her art, because if it's manure she'll be considered a rank amateur.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 11:32 AM

Manure's not that bad. I don't even mind the word "manure".

You know, it's "nure," which is good. And a "ma" in front of it. MA-NURE.

When you consider the other choices, "manure" is actually pretty refreshing.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 21, 2018 12:37 PM (7A4qQ)

186
Hey. Judges are the new masters.
Get used to it
Posted by: Shaneless

How about some Dutch masters?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 12:37 PM (IqV8l)

187 Do former FBI Directors get round the clock protection? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:38 PM (vV/gB)

188 "My dream is to live in the desert where it is only gravel, rocks and few
cactus. No weeds or green grass that needs to be picked or mowed."
my goal is to get natural populations (that I like) that will dominate their own little area, look nice, and require minimal maintenance. Or to find the right chemicals to keep the weeds in check while good plants thrive.

But plenty of people want the "toes in the sand" lifestyle ... every day at the beach. But "producing" from the ground is pretty cool.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 21, 2018 12:38 PM (bT8Z4)

189 Shameless, if you think you are Pixy-banned for no reason, email CBD and ask him if he can help you. He puts his email address at the end of the cooking thread every Sunday.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:38 PM (JJZzu)

190 >>Gee, I'm so glad that the country is revolving around what some judge wants. Just reunite them on the other side of the border

Posted by: TheQuietMan

I think a judge in his/her robe would make a great windsock.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:38 PM (r9UYA)

191 Hey. Judges are the new masters."

"new"???

Here comes the New Boss, same as the Old Boss.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:39 PM (k1TUh)

192 Mrs. Piggle Wiggle was written by Betty MacDonald, who also wrote The Egg and I.

Very interesting lady. She'd a been an ette

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 12:39 PM (2K6fY)

193 191 Hey. Judges are the new masters."

"new"???

Here comes the New Boss, same as the Old Boss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:39 PM (k1TUh)

Kritarchy.... rule by Judges...

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 12:39 PM (NgKpN)

194 @182

Well that makes me feel better already. U have a way with people. Thank you Sometimes I feel like he is just in a mood. Ok that was not nice of me to say - clearly I probably deserve it.

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:40 PM (eGFSg)

195 So I think ace hates me. Should I take this personally?
Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (eGFSg)

Ummmmmm......Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 21, 2018 12:40 PM (EoRCO)

196 @187

Do their children? Cause the children...

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:41 PM (eGFSg)

197 Come back, Shane!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

198 if what you say is true somehow your connection is looking like spam, for whatever reason, and tripping some automatic triggers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:35 PM (k1TUh)

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I use my phone as a hotspot, because the wifi at the shitty hotel I stay in sucks ass. I turn the hotspot off at night, back on in the morning. About 1/3 of the time, I have to power cycle the phone to get a new IP as the one chosen has been banned. This is on Verizon.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 12:42 PM (+1YDx)

199 192 Mrs. Piggle Wiggle was written by Betty MacDonald, who also wrote The Egg and I.

Very interesting lady. She'd a been an ette
Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 12:39 PM (2K6fY)

Around here, The Egg and I is a breakfast restaurant.

Posted by: Emmie at July 21, 2018 12:42 PM (4HMW8)

200 I like a girl who gets down and dirty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:43 PM (+y/Ru)

201 eventually settled on being "pescatarian". Which comes down to, she'll eat anything that doesn't have a cute little face

At least it's a valid diet upon which she can thrive.

I would point out to her, though, that insects and reptiles are far from cute. Spiders make good croutons...

Posted by: t-bird at July 21, 2018 12:43 PM (Y9zp1)

202 There was a bar/restaurant in my hometown called The Keg and I.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 12:43 PM (gUCYC)

203 I haven't been in a Piggly Wiggly in a while.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 12:43 PM (89T5c)

204 So I think ace hates me. Should I take this personally?
Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (eGFSg)

Well don't get thinking you're special. ace hates all of us equally, collectively, and individually. The HQ is purgatory, and this is our penance. We all deserve to be here. We wouldn't be here if we hadn't earned our place.

Eckhart saw the HQ too. He said the only thing that posts in threads is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. ace burns them all away. But he's not punishing you, he said. He's freeing your soul. So the way he sees it, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really ace, freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it, that's all. So don't worry, okay?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:43 PM (y87Qq)

205 Thanks bluebell. Alas I don't use email. U are a true sweetheart though I have read you're kindness many times before.

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (eGFSg)

206 My favorite name for a bar is 'The Office'. Always makes me smile.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (vV/gB)

207 Maybe if we lived in a more rural area a small herd of goats to keep the grass/weeds down would be okay. Then again, I dislike most farm animals too.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (r9UYA)

208 Kritarchy.... rule by Judges...

Which will pave the way for... clitarchy!

Posted by: Hillary! at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (Y9zp1)

209 198 if what you say is true somehow your connection is looking like spam, for whatever reason, and tripping some automatic triggers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:35 PM (k1TUh)

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I use my phone as a hotspot, because the wifi at the shitty hotel I stay in sucks ass. I turn the hotspot off at night, back on in the morning. About 1/3 of the time, I have to power cycle the phone to get a new IP as the one chosen has been banned. This is on Verizon.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 12:42 PM (+1YDx)

Yes.... it is not Ace hating on you...

But you really should not have pissed in Pixy's cornflakes...

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 12:45 PM (NgKpN)

210 So I think ace hates me. Should I take this personally?
Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:28 PM (eGFSg)

I don't think Ace bans people based on whether he likes them. He bans based on whether they are being poopy-heads.

Posted by: Emmie at July 21, 2018 12:45 PM (4HMW8)

211 The gardening thread is up for those so inclined. Or you can hang around here.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at July 21, 2018 12:46 PM (BVQ+1)

212 192 Mrs. Piggle Wiggle was written by Betty MacDonald, who also wrote The Egg and I.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 12:39 PM (2K6fY)
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Ahhh.
That's a fun book. The Egg and I.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 12:46 PM (0jtPF)

213 My favorite name for a bar is 'The Office'. Always makes me smile.

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There was a bar in my college town called The Library. Kids could tell their parents they were going to the library.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:46 PM (+y/Ru)

214
Ace hates when people stop commenting in old threads. That's a surefire way to stay on the good side of him.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 12:46 PM (LOgQ4)

215 Bar by a hospital near me was called The Recovery Room.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 12:47 PM (89T5c)

216 @198

Hah. Ok maybe it's not me then.

I never say anything consequential so it felt very self-important of me to ask... but so many years. I appreciate ur addition CM. I think I was just too self conscious. He must have thousands upon thousands banned at any given time.

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:47 PM (eGFSg)

217 208 Kritarchy.... rule by Judges...

Which will pave the way for... clitarchy!
Posted by: Hillary! at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (Y9zp1)

Yes, that would be Rule by Women Judges...

Only thing better would be rule by Wise Latina Judges!

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 12:47 PM (NgKpN)

218 Thanks bluebell. Alas I don't use email. U are a true sweetheart though I have read you're kindness many times before.
Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (eGFSg)

Bluebell really is the sweetest lady to ever stone-cold stab a man through the neck with a sharpened toothbrush just on general principles, and we are blessed to have her here.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:47 PM (y87Qq)

219 Shameless, thank you for the kind words. And you really don't use email? This will sound crazy, but are you on Twitter? You can reach him that way too.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:48 PM (JJZzu)

220 203 I haven't been in a Piggly Wiggly in a while.
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Last time I went to one I ran into Judd Nelson. He was still a hot commodity at the time which tells you how long ago this was.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:48 PM (vV/gB)

221
I think a judge in his/her robe would make a great windsock.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:38 PM (r9UYA)

I don't know about that they seem pretty clueless about which way the wind blows.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 12:48 PM (10vO4)

222 99 Speaking of digging in dirt, Buckley the Wonder Dog found an entire deer leg (looks like the femur and still-articulated lower leg of probably a fawn) in the woods last week. He brought it back to the cabin and slunk (slinked?) around for twenty minutes trying to find the best spot, dug a fairly good-sized hole, dropped the leg in and covered it back up by shoveling dirt with his snout. Since then he has dug it up and relocated it to a different spot no fewer than 5 times.

He looks worried.

Like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2B8988ws0
Posted by: Muldoon at July 21, 2018 11:54 AM (m45I2)

I think our Dolly has about three dozen remnant bones, Himalayas, and rawhide chews stashed about the house and dog pen. She rotates them from place to place. It's a hoot to watch her "shovel dirt" with her nose when stashing it under a blanket or laundry. It won't look quite right or something, so she uncovers it and starts all over, in the same spot.

She doesn't dig outside and really bury, though.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 21, 2018 12:48 PM (di1hb)

223 Egg and I is a great restaurant, got one near me too.

The only time I've been to Washington St. was when I met some family for a vacation in Port Townsend, located where Puget Sound meets the Juan de Fuca Strait. Wonderful vacation spot, took a boat out and saw killer whale pods, and very beautiful. The abandoned shore defense fortifications are all grown over and feel like Mayan ruins now.

Anyway, just a few miles below Port Townsend I saw "The Egg and I" Road. Turns out that's where the events that the book was based on took place.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 21, 2018 12:48 PM (k1TUh)

224 I just noticed the shoes laying randomly around Ms. Dirtnoggin's art display. Were they thrown?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 21, 2018 12:49 PM (CSNuj)

225 Bluebell really is the sweetest lady to evj stone-cold stab a man through the neck with a sharpened toothbrush just on general principles, and we are blessed to have her here.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:47 PM (y87Qq)
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That is so not true.

It's a spork.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:49 PM (JJZzu)

226 @204

Yeah I remember hog. I was here regularly when he was banning people right and left for talking about "divorce". Even during a couple of the 'tirades'... I tried to be a calming force.

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:49 PM (eGFSg)

227
That is so not true.

It's a spork.
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Bluebell, you must have the wrists of Hercules.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (vV/gB)

228 I may be a poopy head at times though. Mostly I play nice with others but I have my views.

Do brackets still work...

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (eGFSg)

229 >>>I wish a concrete truck would crash and break open in my yard

me too.
lawns are for the birds.
they look pretty though.

Posted by: concrete girl at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (BVthB)

230 Bluebell, you must have the wrists of Hercules.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (vV/gB)

She's not the sentimental type to take trophies from her victims, I think.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (y87Qq)

231 Good news, everybody! Kamala's looking out for us!

Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris
Nationally, over 21M Americans spend more than 30% of their paychecks on rent. That's absurd.

I introduced the #RentReliefAct to help ease the burden. This equals more money in people's pockets at the end of the year.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

232 But you really should not have pissed in Pixy's cornflakes...
Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 12:45 PM (NgKpN)

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Never have, to my knowledge. No telling how posts get taken sometimes, though.

I just figured Verizon has "x" number of IP addresses, and some of them have been used by the bannenated.

If you were not speaking to me, ignore this message.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 12:52 PM (+1YDx)

233 My favorite name for a bar is 'The Office'. Always makes me smile.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (vV/gB)

Across the street from the Laramie campus of UW, there is, or was, a bar called The Library.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 12:53 PM (EhZNT)

234 Pug, do you live in Wyoming?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:54 PM (vV/gB)

235 >>I introduced the #RentReliefAct to help ease the burden. This equals more money in people's pockets at the end of the year.

Is this in conjunction with 'Everyone should receive a government salary?"

Posted by: Under Fire at July 21, 2018 12:54 PM (r9UYA)

236 I hope she purchased good soil for her art, because if it's manure she'll be considered a rank amateur.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic

She was only the stableman's daughter,
but all the horsemen knew her.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 21, 2018 12:54 PM (FTlwv)

237 I would touch twitter with a ten foot pole. Occasionally I will enable cookies though - if I think it's important - but they don't need my cookies so ... yeah - that's what I think about that.

*wouldn't

I trust the meaning was conveyed regardless. English + context adds another dimension n'est ce pas?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:54 PM (eGFSg)

238 She's not the sentimental type to take trophies --- her victims, I think.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (y87Qq)
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My husband told me I had to stop when the crawl space got full.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:55 PM (JJZzu)

239 There was a bar in my college town called The Library. Kids could tell their parents they were going to the library.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:46 PM (+y/Ru)

Lubbock / Texas Tech? My now graduated daughter 'fessed up to that one.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 12:55 PM (QLvwG)

240 Pug, do you live in Wyoming?
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:54 PM (vV/gB)

Grew up in Cody. I live in CO, and Laramie is close.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 12:56 PM (EhZNT)

241 238 She's not the sentimental type to take trophies --- her victims, I think.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 12:51 PM (y87Qq)
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My husband told me I had to stop when the crawl space got full.
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You know, Bluebell, they sell prefab storage sheds at most lumber yards.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:56 PM (vV/gB)

242
I introduced the #RentReliefAct to help ease the burden. This equals more money in people's pockets at the end of the year.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

And Lizzy Warren says everybody has to work four jobs to make ends meet.

What the heck is the Rent Relief Act anyhow?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 12:56 PM (IqV8l)

243 hog ... until you l've been banned personally by ace - you really haven't "arrived" at AoSHQ.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2018 12:57 PM (RvWR/)

244 So... I have regrettably always had bad luck with jalape�os.

Any tips?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:57 PM (eGFSg)

245
Nationally, over 21M Americans spend more than 30% of their paychecks on
rent. That's absurd.

That's only like 7% of the population.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 12:58 PM (10vO4)

246 https://nikalopez.com/resistencia

The Muslims will cure Germany of this kind of thing before long.

S'long, Krauts. You got TWO second chances and this is what you did with them.

Posted by: doomed at July 21, 2018 12:58 PM (MW01U)

247 Shameless, don't know what to tell you except if you really do want to try to be unbanned, create an email account just to correspond with CBD on this matter and then delete it after it gets resolved.

I guess you could also move instead.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 12:59 PM (JJZzu)

248 Lubbock / Texas Tech? My now graduated daughter 'fessed up to that one.

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Mine was at the U. of Northern Colorado at Greeley.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:59 PM (+y/Ru)

249 Nationally, over 21M Americans spend more than 30% of their paychecks on
rent. That's absurd.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 12:58 PM (10vO4)

Meh ... if you're in the first half of a 30-year mortgage ... you're doing the same thing.

I think home-ownership is highly over-rated.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2018 01:00 PM (RvWR/)

250 What the heck is the Rent Relief Act anyhow?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 12:56 PM (IqV8l)

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I haven't looked, but my guess is that this is not so thickly veiled language that means "rent control". A sure fire way to make housing unavailable, if the case.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 01:00 PM (+1YDx)

251
My favorite name for a bar is 'The Office'. Always makes me smile.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 12:44 PM (vV/gB)

Across the street from the Laramie campus of UW, there is, or was, a bar called The Library.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 12:53 PM (EhZNT)

There's a bar not far from me called The Classroom

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:01 PM (10vO4)

252 So CBD is the man now?

Nah I can renew my Ip at will. Mad skillz like mueller and his fbi.

Off topic: is it ok to ask if anyone else misses Monty?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 01:01 PM (eGFSg)

253 https://nikalopez.com/resistencia

The Muslims will cure Germany of this kind of thing before long.

S'long, Krauts. You got TWO second chances and this is what you did with them.
Posted by: doomed at July 21, 2018 12:58 PM (MW01U)

OK, she's is kind of in Valencia which is about 1,000 miles from Germany.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:01 PM (y87Qq)

254 Can anyone tell the inside story of what happened to Empire of Jeff? That guy was special.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 01:02 PM (vV/gB)

255 Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris
Nationally, over 21M Americans spend more than 30% of their paychecks on rent. That's absurd.

I introduced the #RentReliefAct to help ease the burden. This equals more money in people's pockets at the end of the year.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

Of course the solution to rent that's too high isn't to just fucking MOVE like everyone else in all of recorded human history, no, the real solution is to take my money and give it to someone who can't afford what they want, so that they can afford what they want.

Well, now *I* can't afford what *I* want. So how is that fair?

Oh, that's right. "Shut Up", they explained.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)

256
OK, she's is kind of in Valencia which is about 1,000 miles from Germany.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:01 PM (y87Qq)

Orange you being picky?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:03 PM (10vO4)

257 Can anyone tell the inside story of what happened to Empire of Jeff? That guy was special.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 01:02 PM (vV/gB)

Was he the guy who posted the occasional whiskey monologue? Coined the phrase "a leisurely sip of penis"? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:03 PM (y87Qq)

258 *refresh

The doom guy.... ?

My sock grew depressing in retrospect

Posted by: DoveCall at July 21, 2018 01:04 PM (eGFSg)

259 I always wondered about that. You would think that "Eric Blair" would be the pen-name since it sounds handsome.
I mean, if you were writing a romance novel, you wouldn't name the hero "George Orwell" in preference to "Eric Blair," would you?

Then again, you might not want a pretty name for grim and serious work. In mid-20th-century terms, George wears glasses and Eric does not. And as Pol Pot would say, those folks with glasses are half-smart.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 12:21 PM (0jtPF)

He said at one time he hated the name "Eric", but also (post WWII) that in his personal life he used both. Some people called him Eric, and some George.

If you read a lot of what he wrote - beyond the usual collection - you do see that he really was a left winger. But also a liberal in the old sense, and that was stronger than the socialism. In any case, he is simply the greatest man of the left who ever lived. Could anyone imagine a recent lefty saying Tom Wolf was the best contemporary novelist? The idea is absurd. But that's what Orwell said of Waugh; and Waugh was much further from the mainstream that Wolf ever was.

Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:04 PM (59GGI)

260 I think home-ownership is highly over-rated.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 21, 2018 01:00 PM (RvWR/)

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The Ex and I sold our first house to buy the next. She was thrilled that we made a 50% "profit", after 10 years of owning it. I pointed out all we had invested in it, and the RE agent commissions. In the end, it was really kind of a wash, like a zero interest savings account.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 01:05 PM (+1YDx)

261 >>https://youtu.be/EVbdbVhzcM4

Posted by: Kindltot

Very cool!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 21, 2018 01:06 PM (W+vEI)

262
Sessions ? Oh that guy.

I heard a while back he went on the weekly standard Cruze with Hubert but don't know if they bunked together

Posted by: DoveCall at July 21, 2018 01:06 PM (eGFSg)

263 @KamalaHarris
Nationally, over 21M Americans spend more than 30% of their paychecks on rent. That's absurd.

I introduced the #RentReliefAct to help ease the burden. This equals more money in people's pockets at the end of the year.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

Of course the solution to rent that's too high isn't to just fucking MOVE like everyone else in all of recorded human history, no, the real solution is to take my money and give it to someone who can't afford what they want, so that they can afford what they want.

Hey, I can't afford to live in Malibu. When are they going to hook me up with a beachfront property there?

OK, the neighbors, all being snotty liberals, suck, but ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:07 PM (CLV0m)

264 What the heck is the Rent Relief Act anyhow?

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It's a wonderful, magical, unicorn-inspired wealth redistribution scheme.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:07 PM (+y/Ru)

265 Posted by: Kindltot at July 21, 2018 11:39 AM

That *was* really cool. I hadn't intended to watch and now I'm really glad I did.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 21, 2018 01:07 PM (UENOA)

266 Well I miss Monty. He was a sure fire bundle of fun on Sunday.

Posted by: DoveCall at July 21, 2018 01:07 PM (eGFSg)

267 The idea is absurd. But that's what Orwell said of Waugh; and Waugh was much further from the mainstream that Wolf ever was.
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Wolf was mainstream First Families of Virginia Anglican. His talent lay in observing the fads and fancies of NY Yankees and mercilessly filleting them. I liked his earlier work better than his later. Basically because the later stuff was all about NYC. Highly recommend The Electric Koolaid Acid Test. Nice snapshot of late sixties Bay Area doings.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 01:08 PM (vV/gB)

268 264 What the heck is the Rent Relief Act anyhow?

-
It's a wonderful, magical, unicorn-inspired wealth redistribution scheme.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:07 PM (+y/Ru)

I think it's Kameltoe's offer to pay everybody else's rent.

At least, that's how I took it.

God love ya, Kameltoe!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:08 PM (CLV0m)

269
What the heck is the Rent Relief Act anyhow?

Taking a leak in a bar bathroom after several pitchers of beer.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:09 PM (10vO4)

270 Wolf was mainstream First Families of Virginia Anglican. His talent lay in observing the fads and fancies of NY Yankees and mercilessly filleting them.

By pitching them outside?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:10 PM (CLV0m)

271 "It's no crime to be happy in the age of Trump"

Reposted from earlier

Women celebrates time with her kids despite it being a "very dark time" she writes her friend Bethany Mandel (NY Post columnist thinks that means someone died or there was some tragedy, but No, it means Trump is President. Her main point is that people should put things in perspective instead of letting politics control their moods and life. Good article:

https://tinyurl.com/yblgtvof

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:10 PM (AllCR)

272 Hey y'all.

A gorgeous day here in S. Illinois.

G-babies are out and about with their mom and dad, and it's just me and Ex Ex...thinking about a picnic.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:10 PM (IG9gl)

273 Any one see the Australian zombie flick "Cargo"? The zombies in the movie did what dirt chick did. I kept wonder how they got air to the actors during filming.

Posted by: Big V at July 21, 2018 01:11 PM (ZvLtE)

274
You're *only* supposed to spend about 25% of income on housing expense. This is a long term recognized standard. That number can be bumped higher if you're willing to make some concessions on discretionary spending; buy cheaper cars, don't take expensive vacations, brown-bag not buy lunch... The wife and I have always been willing to make those concessions for the better house.

Why aren't people allowed to make their own financial decisions Ms. Warren? The better apartment in a better neighborhood with the smaller car, the brown bag lunch, etc.

Extremist Commie Bitch is Commie.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 01:12 PM (LOgQ4)

275 Two longtime favorites, Kimball and VDH. Hanson's talk was interesting, but I always have one problem with his position. I don't see any evidence that the kind of middle class agrarian populism has much staying power. Their very virtues, which make them good rulers, entail they don't maintain the compulsion to ram their programs down everyone else's throats. That's a severe disadvantage in any political system. (Plato notes this in the Republic. People often miss the fact that the careful education of the philosopher kings is explicitly intended to choose people who really don't want to rule. Of course, that is a bit of a fantasy.)

VDH also doesn't discuss (it's only one speech) the extent that other Greek cities also were largely ruled in the manner he describes. I have one friend who, arguing from VDH's Other Greeks*, that it's really the more obscure ones that got it right. Athens, on this view, went corrupt early.

*I still think its his best book.

Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:12 PM (59GGI)

276 A gorgeous day here in S. Illinois.

G-babies are out and about with their mom and dad, and it's just me and Ex Ex...thinking about a picnic.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:10 PM (IG9gl)

Why did I think you were in California? I thought you were in the Central Valley or something. Now who did I have you confused with?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:13 PM (y87Qq)

277 Watching "The Open" and I've had a deep thought for my fellow rons.

Gentlemen, there is NEVER an excuse/occasion when you should wear white pants. But but no!

If you own a pair burn them, throw them out, cut them into wash cloths or whatever.

No reason to ever wear white pants and there is no time/place where they are appropriate.

You don't play pro baseball or football so just stop.

Thanks.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 01:13 PM (lT+xq)

278 Why did I think you were in California? I thought you were in the Central Valley or something. Now who did I have you confused with?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:13 PM (y87Qq)

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lol

I get that a lot.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:15 PM (IG9gl)

279 Alright well thanks for the hospitality I gotta run (actually I do baby down to nap time - sincerely. I wouldn't mess with the only untrollable place to ever exist; such great expulsions to have witnessed)

Be well u stalwart people.
May God bless

Posted by: DoveCall at July 21, 2018 01:15 PM (eGFSg)

280 231
@KamalaHarris
Nationally, over 21M Americans spend more than 30% of their paychecks on rent. That's absurd.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)
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Nope. Not absurd at all.
It's absurd to think it absurd.

But I'm sure Kamala, with her "Free or Cheap Rent Act," can drive the cost of housing up to 60 or 70% for ALL of us!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 21, 2018 01:15 PM (0jtPF)

281 Back at ya, DoveCall.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:16 PM (IG9gl)

282
Gentlemen, there is NEVER an excuse/occasion when you should wear white pants. But but no!

What if you're a house painter?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:16 PM (10vO4)

283 Gentlemen, there is NEVER an excuse/occasion when you should wear white pants. But but no!
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 01:13 PM (lT+xq)

Counterpoint: on liberty. It's not patterns of misconduct and international incidents unless you're in Party Whites.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:16 PM (y87Qq)

284 Yeah,I survived 8 dark years of Obama during which both my parents died as well.

Posted by: steevy at July 21, 2018 01:16 PM (LiyEm)

285 What is the point of the broad with the dirt?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 21, 2018 11:24 AM (SiINZ)

De-humanization. There is actually no talent required and the only imagination necessary was dreaming up a pretentious title for her "art work." There's a reason modern "art" is so oppressive and it sure isn't to uplift the human spirit.

I had initially thought it was a satirical Photoshop picture and assumed the content was going to include a scathing critique of the Republi-cuck class.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 21, 2018 01:16 PM (5Yee7)

286 My son's friend who just graduated from college got a non paying internship at the local Democrat Party office. His parents are hoping it will lead to a paying job. He will be working for the candidacy of the man running against my Rep who has been there forever . As far as Republicans go, he's not bad. Not stupidly Rino -ish anyway. Anyway, I pray for my friends's son everyday-that he gets a paying job-even if it is with the political party I loathe, but I refrained from telling my friend when she announced this news to me, "So, I guess I should send a contribution to the Republican, then?" and smiling. I don't think she would find that funny. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:17 PM (AllCR)

287 I get that a lot.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:15 PM (IG9gl)

Well were you stationed there or something? This is gonna bug me until I figure out just why I thought you lived on the other side of the country.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:17 PM (y87Qq)

288 So... I have regrettably always had bad luck with jalapenos.

Any tips?

Posted by: Shameless at July 21, 2018 12:57 PM (eGFSg)

Get 6 large firm whole ones and wash them well. Put on latex / nitrile gloves for all the prep work. You'll thank me later. Slice off the stem end and then slice longwise. Clean out the guts and every last seed. Wash the 2 pieces again.
When you have 12 slices, get the cream cheese and cup/glass with water in it. Wet the knife each time and spread the cream cheese into each slice, smoothing the top and open end.
Open a package of thick sliced bacon. Wrap a sliced bacon around the cream cheese filled slice of jalapeno, starting at the open end of the slice and wrapping down and then back as far as you can go, stretching the bacon slice slightly. Fix the bacon onto the jalapeno with a toothpick or two, making sure all of the cream cheese is covered by the slice of bacon.
With your charcoal grill ready to go (sorry, Mr. Hank Hill), put each slice face down (flat side down) and close the cover. Watch for flareups from the dripping bacon fat. Use a cooler charcoal fire than you would for burgers. When the downside bacon is cooked to your liking, flip the wrapped slices. Be gentle and careful in using tongs as to not squeeze out the hot, melty cream cheese. Close the cover and watch all the smokey, greasy goodness waft through your neighborhood, setting off all the dogs to start barking in ravenous hunger.
Gently remove from the grill (don't squeeze the tongs!) and take inside to share with drooling family and friends. Feeds 3 - 4 adults or 1 small adult plus 1 teen boy.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 01:17 PM (QLvwG)

289 283 Gentlemen, there is NEVER an excuse/occasion when you should wear white pants. But but no!
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 01:13 PM (lT+xq)

Counterpoint: on liberty. It's not patterns of misconduct and international incidents unless you're in Party Whites.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:16 PM (y87Qq)

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Navy whites?

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:18 PM (IG9gl)

290 One small thing that VDH said which isn't quite right. He says that "peasants" are wholly different from the "yeomen" he is talking about. That does seem to be the standard American usage. But not English.

Take for example Goldsmith's "bold peasantry, their nation's pride"; that clearly refers to what he means by middle class or yeoman farmers. I've read Brit authors (including GKC) who described us as a 'peasant republic". It was meant as praise.

Its a problem that the Babel effect can work within a single language.

Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:18 PM (59GGI)

291 Navy whites?
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:18 PM (IG9gl)

https://stoatnet.org/nyc2003/

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:19 PM (y87Qq)

292 George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:12 PM

"Their very virtues, which make them good rulers, entail they don't maintain the compulsion to ram their programs down everyone else's throats."

Hence people like Donald Trump, who acknowledge them but may have such compulsions?

I think he emphasized their place as citizens more than their place as rulers in the speech above.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at July 21, 2018 01:19 PM (BVQ+1)

293 Well were you stationed there or something? This is gonna bug me until I figure out just why I thought you lived on the other side of the country.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:17 PM (y87Qq)

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Lived in Alameda and San Diego as a child in the 70s when my dad was stationed there, and did a few NTC rotations at Ft Irwin.

Other than that...

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:20 PM (IG9gl)

294 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:17 PM (AllCR)

Should be "My friend's son" not "My son's friend"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:20 PM (AllCR)

295 Lived in Alameda and San Diego as a child in the 70s when my dad was stationed there, and did a few NTC rotations at Ft Irwin.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:20 PM (IG9gl)

Oh, well that must have been it then. Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:20 PM (y87Qq)

296 My son's friend who just graduated from college got a non paying internship at the local Democrat Party office. His parents are hoping it will lead to a paying job.

I'm hoping to get called up by the NY Yankees.

And my phone is working. I just checked.

Again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:21 PM (CLV0m)

297 https://stoatnet.org/nyc2003/
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:19 PM (y87Qq)

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Thinking more of the dress whites...lol.
That you?

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:22 PM (IG9gl)

298 The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
Nancy Pelosi To Hold Weekly Press Conference Announcing Next Reason Millions Will Die

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Maybe she could spin the Wheel of Doom!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:23 PM (+y/Ru)

299 The importance of the yeoman farmer is he and the merchant were the levers that allowed Western Civilization to transcend both slavery and serfdom. No other peoples on earth can claim such an achievement. And, man, are they some pissed others.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 01:23 PM (vV/gB)

300 My son's friend who just graduated from college got a non paying internship at the local Democrat Party office. His parents are hoping it will lead to a paying job.

So they would give up free labor and pay him, because ...?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:23 PM (CLV0m)

301
It's good that all those low income folks just got a tax cut to help them pay for their rent... right Ms. Warren? That minority employment is at all time highs... right Ms. Warren?

I sure hope the Dems nominate her as the sacrificial lamb against Trump Term II. She'll be lucky to get 50 EV's.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 01:24 PM (LOgQ4)

302 Thinking more of the dress whites...lol.
That you?
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:22 PM (IG9gl)

I'm the good-looking one, yes.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:24 PM (y87Qq)

303 If you're a painter/Naval officer then you get a pass on the white pants but ANY MAN who has white pants as part of his "wardrobe" can f right off.

They are horrible and nobody wants to see a man's "panty"
line!

I'm sure somebody will think of another uniform with white pants but come on now, nobody can seriously defend wearing white pants because they "look good on me".

Thanks.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 01:25 PM (lT+xq)

304 The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
Nancy Pelosi To Hold Weekly Press Conference Announcing Next Reason Millions Will Die

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Maybe she could spin the Wheel of Doom!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:23 PM (+y/Ru)
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The host of that show would be Terry McAuliffe.

Posted by: bluebell at July 21, 2018 01:26 PM (JJZzu)

305 "Nancy Pelosi To Hold Weekly Press Conference Announcing Next Reason Millions Will Die "

I bet it's wolves.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:27 PM (y87Qq)

306 It's good that all those low income folks just got a tax cut to help them pay for their rent... right Ms. Warren? That minority employment is at all time highs... right Ms. Warren?

It's good that Liewatha is finally taking an interest in poor whites.

Wait - what? She was using "low income" as a euphemism?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:27 PM (CLV0m)

307 LOL weirdflunky

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:27 PM (IG9gl)

308 I'm sure somebody will think of another uniform with white pants but come on now, nobody can seriously defend wearing white pants because they "look good on me".

Thanks.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 01:25 PM

White pants on men are like Speedo's. Not many men can look good in either.

Like women and bikini's. Not many look that great, but to the few who do? Thank you.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 01:28 PM (LOgQ4)

309 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:21 PM (CLV0m)

Sometimes internships lead to paying jobs, but often they do not as you know. Kids get worked to death and then the office says "Bye-Bye". Despite being a Democrat, he's not a bad kid-just brainwashed. I was a Democrat at age 22 as well My concerns is that George Soros Co. is probably recruiting people online to be part of Antifa and if things get desperate as far as not getting a job, I hope he would not join Antifa.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:28 PM (AllCR)

310 305 "Nancy Pelosi To Hold Weekly Press Conference Announcing Next Reason Millions Will Die "

I bet it's wolves.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:27 PM (y87Qq)

Nah. It's net neutrality. It's just biding its time, lurking, like the heat lurking in the deep ocean, lulling us into a false sense of security.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:28 PM (CLV0m)

311 292 George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:12 PM

"Their very virtues, which make them good rulers, entail they don't maintain the compulsion to ram their programs down everyone else's throats."

Hence people like Donald Trump, who acknowledge them but may have such compulsions?

I think he emphasized their place as citizens more than their place as rulers in the speech above.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at July 21, 2018 01:19 PM (BVQ+1)

But the very Greek notion of "citizenship" is built around taking part in the running of the polis. And that fact is clearly at the core of the idea that such a state can be kept decent.

As to Trump, I'm not clear he has such a compulsion. For fame, admiration, prestige, notoriety, call it what you like, he certainly does. And certainly for winning. But he's shown a lot of flexibility on actual issues. Trump is hard to put into any of the usual political categories.

Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:29 PM (59GGI)

312 It's net neutrality. It's just biding its time, lurking, like the heat lurking in the deep ocean, lulling us into a false sense of security.

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You'll wake up one morning and find your laptop at your throat!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:30 PM (+y/Ru)

313 So they would give up free labor and pay him, because ...?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:23 PM (CLV0m)

Not a job necessarily with them, but so he could use that as as experience to get a paying job someplace else if they didn't offer him a paying job,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:30 PM (AllCR)

314 "Art" is the ability to do some asinine shit in the middle of a public setting while wearing a stony, grim look of seriousness on your face.

Think about it.

Any of these "installations" or "pieces" or whatever the hell, they keep cropping up here and there... Imagine any of them smiling while doing what they are doing.

Imagine our Senorita Cloggenpores wearing a big 'ol happy grin while dumping dirt on her head, instead of that art-house "I'm really very quite mad at all of you, you know" face.

Scary.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 01:34 PM (BRvh1)

315
Nah. It's net neutrality. It's just biding its time, lurking, like the heat lurking in the deep ocean, lulling us into a false sense of security.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity

How can you even joke about net neutrality? Millions of men now suffer the effects of throttling back their connection speed to PronHub causing millions of cases of ER 'blue ball syndrome' diagnoses.

Health care costs are going to rise, productivity among government employees will plummet, and a generation of men will suffer the permanent distention of their testiculars.

No joking matter.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 01:34 PM (LOgQ4)

316 Sometimes internships lead to paying jobs, but often they do not as you know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:28 PM (AllCR)

It's instructive to consider the origin of this "internship" crap.

I think it's several-fold:

1. The educational system churns out lots of useless wankers with a sense of entitlement, so a kid's educational achievement is meaningless;

2. Owing to various labor laws, and of course affirmative action etc., businesses are loathe to hire people that they may have to fire later. Much safer to get a free tryout and see what the kid is like;

3. Businesses get free labor, which is always nice. The worst that happens is the kid is useless, in which case you've not lost anything; you just send him out to get danishes, pretty much the way Sidley Austin used Obama.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:35 PM (CLV0m)

317 The story in the Weekly Weird News thread about the guy who interpreted a horse's wink as consent, I predict that their relationship won't last furlong.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (+y/Ru)

318
Not a job necessarily with them, but so he could use that as as experience to get a paying job someplace else if they didn't offer him a paying job,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:30 PM (AllCR)

That's what my youngest did and it ended up landing her a paying job with a political consulting firm

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (10vO4)

319 How can you even joke about net neutrality? Millions of men now suffer the effects of throttling back their connection speed to PronHub causing millions of cases of ER 'blue ball syndrome' diagnoses.

Health care costs are going to rise, productivity among government employees will plummet, and a generation of men will suffer the permanent distention of their testiculars.

No joking matter.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 21, 2018 01:34 PM (LOgQ4)

You're right. I am duly chastened.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (CLV0m)

320 299 The importance of the yeoman farmer is he and the merchant were the levers that allowed Western Civilization to transcend both slavery and serfdom. No other peoples on earth can claim such an achievement. And, man, are they some pissed others.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 21, 2018 01:23 PM (vV/gB)

If so, it must be the yeoman who is the essential ingredient, as merchants have been pretty much universal. There were Chinese and Arab merchants all over the Indian Ocean long before Da Gama.

But on the other hand, neither Greece nor Rome seems to have moved from slavery, despite the free farmers. The first reduction of slavery came in the middle ages, when there was the progression of slave to serf to freeman, (merchants had little to do with it, so far as I can see).

But then, I'm an extreme skeptic about historical causal laws.

Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (59GGI)

321
How can you even joke about net neutrality?

A Twilight Zone episode where a man is tripped by an ethernet cable and falls down the stairs to his death.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (IqV8l)

322 Not a job necessarily with them, but so he could use that as as experience to get a paying job someplace else if they didn't offer him a paying job,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:30 PM (AllCR)

Sure, it happens. But it's a case of "jam tomorrow," isn't it?

If they don't pay you, you know what they think you're worth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:37 PM (CLV0m)

323 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (10vO4)

It's good to know such possibilities exist. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:37 PM (AllCR)

324 How can you even joke about net neutrality?

A Twilight Zone episode where a man is tripped by an ethernet cable and falls down the stairs to his death.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (IqV8l)

Ethernet? I thought net neutrality had something to do with tennis.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:38 PM (CLV0m)

325 Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:29 PM (59GGI)

Trump really does seem to transcend ideology. I don't think there is much of a rigid, academically researched worldview there, just a desire to get the country to stop doing obviously stupid shit in the name of some arcane think-tanked delusion.

You know, taking half your paycheck, giving pallets of cash to regimes that want us dead, not having an actual budget for the federal government in over a decade.... that sorta shit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 01:38 PM (BRvh1)

326 Eric Blair = George Orwell
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*?*

I did not know that. My copy of Burmese Days is marked as George Orwell.

~~The~~ A great thing about this place is that knowledge simply rubs off onto those who follow it.

Posted by: Mike hammer, etc., etc. at July 21, 2018 01:39 PM (xSo9G)

327 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:35 PM (CLV0m)

His mother thinks unpaid internships are a cut above slave labor, but since he didn't do them while he was in college-which his friends did-and now have paying jobs-she thinks that's the best option since everything he applied for he hasn't heard anything back from.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:39 PM (AllCR)

328 As to Trump, I'm not clear he has such a compulsion. For fame, admiration, prestige, notoriety, call it what you like, he certainly does. And certainly for winning. But he's shown a lot of flexibility on actual issues. Trump is hard to put into any of the usual political categories.

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Mean Girls Media sees him as an ideologue. Actually, he's a pragmatist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:39 PM (+y/Ru)

329 But on the other hand, neither Greece nor Rome seems to have moved from slavery, despite the free farmers. The first reduction of slavery came in the middle ages, when there was the progression of slave to serf to freeman, (merchants had little to do with it, so far as I can see).

But then, I'm an extreme skeptic about historical causal laws.
Posted by: George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:36 PM (59GGI)

The Black Plague helped a lot, too. Proponents of open borders who maintain that it won't hurt American workers please note. A 25% reduction in the population in the 1300s greatly improved the wages and living standards of those who survived, because their labor was just that much more valuable.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:40 PM (CLV0m)

330 "Art" is the ability to do some asinine shit in the middle of a public setting while wearing a stony, grim look of seriousness on your face.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 01:34 PM (BRvh1)

And as grammie pointed out up there, people clapped. It's not just that she got to pretend she was doing something important with her head all up in dirt, the people watching got to feel like they were cultured and enlightened. They went to bed that night feeling like they were better for having seen the lady with her head stuck in a pile of dirt. They felt, to a greater or lesser degree, like they had experienced something that people who hadn't seen a lady with her head in dirt hadn't experienced, and they may have pitied those poor benighted boors a bit.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:42 PM (y87Qq)

331 His mother thinks unpaid internships are a cut above slave labor, but since he didn't do them while he was in college-which his friends did-and now have paying jobs-she thinks that's the best option since everything he applied for he hasn't heard anything back from.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:39 PM (AllCR)

Fair enough. Desperate times, desperate measures. But if he can't find a job in this economy, that's not a good sign. Or maybe a sign he should studying something else.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:42 PM (CLV0m)

332 George LeS at July 21, 2018 01:29 PM

Yes, I agree that he does not have philosophical compulsions. But he has done more "conservative" things than many who claimed to have "conservative" philosophies. Though far from perfect, he is much, much better than the alternative.

Marginalization of today's "middle guys" led to his election even though he is not really like them. His personal compulsions give them some influence, because they are his base.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at July 21, 2018 01:43 PM (BVQ+1)

333 The horse winking indicates a stable relationship.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 01:44 PM (89T5c)

334 333 The horse winking indicates a stable relationship.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 01:44 PM (89T5c)

What's the problem? They were just horsing around.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:45 PM (CLV0m)

335 Mean Girls Media sees him as an ideologue. Actually, he's a pragmatist.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 21, 2018 01:39 PM (+y/Ru)

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Yeah, he certainly has shown that he is quite the pragmatist. Most successful business people are. It just so happens that having that attitude lines up with Conservative ideas and actions. Doing what works.

This is what they despise about him.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 01:45 PM (+1YDx)

336 The horse winking indicates a stable relationship.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 01:44 PM (89T5c)

"Horsewinking" sounds like a folksy Appalachian term for something but exactly what it would mean is left as an exercise for the reader.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:46 PM (y87Qq)

337
The horse winking indicates a stable relationship. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 01:44 PM (89T5c)

Stable relationships will lead to a bridle party

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:48 PM (10vO4)

338 For those who haven't seen it, the third post down at CTH is a CNBC interview with Trump about a wide range of things. It seems like the interview has been memory holed.

Hmm. The GSW doesn't come across as a raving lunatic or a Putin butt boy but that can't be the reason it's not being pimped everywhere.

Worth a watch if you haven't seen it. Just under 16 minutes.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 21, 2018 01:48 PM (lT+xq)

339 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 01:42 PM (CLV0m)

Well, yes, he should have probably studied something else, but he's now finished college and just isn't a science/math person. I suppose he could go back and get a M.A. in Information Systems which is what another son of a friend of mine did and now he works for Ford motors, I think and doing very well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:49 PM (AllCR)

340 The horse winking indicates a stable relationship. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 01:44 PM (89T5c)

Stable relationships will lead to a bridle party
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:48 PM (10vO4)

Oh, jeez, now we're all going to keep getting saddled with these awful equestrian puns.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 01:49 PM (BRvh1)

341 The horse winking incident happened in Philly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 01:49 PM (89T5c)

342 When I awakened this morning, the lesbians were gone.
I remembered last night, and the beauty of their tent, complete with strings of little incandescent white lights. I'm a sucker for those. And lush rugs scattered about on the tent floor. It was magical, as we got high and I looked around, pleased that I had finally gotten my camel toe under the tent flap.
Now they're back, and the smokers are being fired up to smoke those bones and tendons. A light but steady rain is falling, but it's full speed ahead on the smoking.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:51 PM (txw6d)

343
I wish we had a nurse here who could describe what the net-neutrality emergency room looks like. Hundreds of men with ice packs between their legs, the horrifically distended testicular units, palms still slowly shaking in practiced rhythm.

The horror. The horror.

Why has Trump done this to the country?

Posted by: CheChe at July 21, 2018 01:51 PM (LOgQ4)

344 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:51 PM (txw6d)

Pure poetry

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 21, 2018 01:52 PM (hMwEB)

345 I wish we had a nurse here who could describe what
the net-neutrality emergency room looks like.

Posted by: CheChe at July 21, 2018 01:51 PM (LOgQ4)

It kept me safe. Now my pussy hat is all swollen.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:53 PM (txw6d)

346 16 I looked at the weather map and it looks like it will start raining shortly. Guess I can't cut the grass today. Oh drat.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 11:27 AM (sdi6R)

I looked at the map again and realized that I had a narrow window in which to get it done before the rain started. I made the decision so fast that I didn't leave a comment about it. Done and done.

*opens beer*

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 01:53 PM (sdi6R)

347
When I awakened this morning, the lesbians were gone.

Sounds like a song.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 01:53 PM (IqV8l)

348 My son's friend who just graduated from college got a non paying internship at the local Democrat Party office. His parents are hoping it will lead to a paying job.

So he went to college, but didn't get an education.

People getting degrees in fields that count as "an education" take internships while they're being educated. Once they have a degree, they can get a paying job.

Post-graduation "internships" are usually for the indoctrination-without-education majors, aren't they?

Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 01:54 PM (P1f+c)

349 Thank you, votermom. Life is poetic sometimes.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:54 PM (txw6d)

350 And now for something completely different. Gangstagrass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayrzszAfbnM

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:56 PM (txw6d)

351 Now they're back, and the smokers are being fired up to smoke those bones and tendons.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:51 PM (txw6d)

Wait, you meant like, for food?

When you posted "tomorrow we'll be smoking bones and tendons" I just assumed Viking funeral or something.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:57 PM (y87Qq)

352 Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 01:54 PM (P1f+c)

My niece just spent 4 years getting her degree at a University in Physical Therapy...

Then took a job at a Head Hunting firm... where she is a glorified secretary.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 01:58 PM (NgKpN)

353
When I awakened this morning, the lesbians were gone.

Sounds like a song.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 01:53 PM (IqV8l)

They left me here stranded with the bills they owed

they gave a false address

took off with my American Express

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 21, 2018 01:58 PM (10vO4)

354 Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 01:54 PM (P1f+c)

I appreciate your point and I agree with it, but I'm not his mother and I had no say in what he should major in, and as both his mother and father know he should have had internships while in college. They bugged him, but he didn't get his backside in gear. :^) So rather than blame him now as I am NOT his mother I am praying that he will get something.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 01:59 PM (AllCR)

355 The first reduction of slavery came in the middle ages, when there
was the progression of slave to serf to freeman, (merchants had little
to do with it, so far as I can see).

---

I remember reading something in Durant's massive "Story of Civilization" books that slavery was valuable because it gave us our sense of toil, and without being made to do something nothing of merit would get done because humans, like everything else that breathes, wants to do as little as possible.

So slavery led us here. Pretty neat to ponder.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 21, 2018 01:59 PM (tve+u)

356 When I awakened this morning, the lesbians were gone.
I
remembered last night, and the beauty of their tent, complete with
strings of little incandescent white lights. I'm a sucker for those. And
lush rugs scattered about on the tent floor. It was magical, as we got
high and I looked around, pleased that I had finally gotten my camel toe
under the tent flap.
Now they're back, and the smokers are being
fired up to smoke those bones and tendons. A light but steady rain is
falling, but it's full speed ahead on the smoking.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 01:51 PM (txw6d)

*red underlines furiously*

Good stuff, keep it coming

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 02:00 PM (QLvwG)

357
Navy whites?
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at July 21, 2018 01:18 PM (IG9gl)
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There is nought to compare to a fine young officer in choker whites.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:00 PM (gUCYC)

358 Posted by: Don Q at July 21, 2018 01:58 PM (NgKpN)

I would think physical therapy would be a fairly good career option.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:00 PM (AllCR)

359 Wait, you meant like, for food?

When you posted "tomorrow we'll be smoking bones and tendons" I just assumed Viking funeral or something.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 01:57 PM (y87Qq)

For their pet food and treats business!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:01 PM (txw6d)

360 For their pet food and treats business!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:01 PM (txw6d)

Is it to preserve them, or do dogs actually prefer smoke flavor? I guess I don't know how dogs work.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:02 PM (y87Qq)

361 Also, this is a great thread regarding how college is failing our kids. Where was the guidance counselor in all of this*?

* Said from the perspective of someone whose guidance counselor didn't do sh*t thirty whatever years ago to the point where I was piecing together what I was supposed to be doing completely on my own, and knowing that the situation has almost certainly gotten worse since then.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 21, 2018 02:02 PM (tve+u)

362 There is nought to compare to a fine young officer in choker whites.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:00 PM (gUCYC)

Maverick to Goose: This is a target rich environment. Even you could get laid here.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 02:03 PM (QLvwG)

363 "Art" is the ability to do some asinine shit in the middle of a public setting while wearing a stony, grim look of seriousness on your face.

It seems to consist wholly of "performance" art. There was an Yale art major Aliza Shvartz whose senior project consisted of her claiming to have fertilized herself with a turkey baster. Several months later she videotaped herself supposedly inducing a miscarriage and bleeding all over the place. It was most likely all bogus, but still. Zero artistic talent required, and instant notoriety.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 21, 2018 02:04 PM (/qEW2)

364 My son-as quirky as he is seems to be showing initiative. He can't get an internship until he's completed 13 credits which won't happen until, God willing he completes his Fall courses but he went off to ask about internships anyway and that's how he found out her needs 1 credits. When the counselor said "What are you interested in, son said "Biomathematics." I think the guy had no clue what Biomathematics was. I didn't either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:04 PM (AllCR)

365 Despite being a Democrat, he's not a bad kid-just brainwashed. I was a Democrat at age 22 as well

I was politically silly in my younger days, also.

Churchill's line about having no heart if you're not a liberal at 20, and having no brain if you're not a conservative at 40, does come to pass often enough. I'm just happy my brain grew in early.

Hopefully it works out for your friend's son.

Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 02:05 PM (P1f+c)

366 I had a guidance counselor - his name was Dad and he told me to go to college, get a degree and go to work.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 21, 2018 02:05 PM (mJmCN)

367 364-meant, "That's how he found out he needs 13 credits"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:06 PM (AllCR)

368
Maverick to Goose: This is a target rich environment. Even you could get laid here.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 02:03 PM (QLvwG)
----
*Maverick cradles exsanguinated yet smiling husk of his former friend*

Goo-o-o-o-o-oooose!!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:06 PM (gUCYC)

369 When the counselor said "What are you interested in,
son said "Biomathematics." I think the guy had no clue what
Biomathematics was. I didn't either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:04 PM (AllCR)

---

Sounds about right. You don't need to know, but that seems like something a guidance counselor should at least be able to make a reasonable guess about.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 21, 2018 02:06 PM (tve+u)

370 When the counselor said "What are you interested in, son said "Biomathematics." I think the guy had no clue what Biomathematics was. I didn't either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:04 PM (AllCR)
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Rating them ones or zeroes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:07 PM (gUCYC)

371 Hopefully it works out for your friend's son.
Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 02:05 PM (P1f+c)

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:07 PM (AllCR)

372
I think the guy had no clue what Biomathematics was. I didn't either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

What is it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 02:08 PM (IqV8l)

373 Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 21, 2018 02:06 PM (tve+u)

The counselor also said "People on the autism spectrum often are very interested in science and maths" My son hadn't told him that he's on the spectrum, so I think that was very inappropriate for the counselor to say that. The counselor then said "I hope I didn't offend you." Son was really annoyed at the comment.

I told him next time to go see the guy who spoke to last time who was much better.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:10 PM (AllCR)

374 My niece just spent 4 years getting her degree at a University in Physical Therapy...

Then took a job at a Head Hunting firm... where she is a glorified secretary.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q

I have a relative who got an engineering degree, then went back to work on the family farm.

Had the mental horsepower, but not the mindset. Farming suited him better.

Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 02:11 PM (P1f+c)

375 So he went to college, but didn't get an education.

People getting degrees in fields that count as "an education" take internships while they're being educated. Once they have a degree, they can get a paying job.

Post-graduation "internships" are usually for the indoctrination-without-education majors, aren't they?
Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 01:54 PM (P1f+c)

Look at it this way: he's getting an education NOW.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:11 PM (YqDXo)

376 What is it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 02:08 PM (IqV8l)

"The science of the application of mathematics to biology."

Thanks, New Oxford American Dictionary, what would I do without you.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:12 PM (y87Qq)

377 I think the guy had no clue what Biomathematics was. I didn't either.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
---
Rating them ones or zeroes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Counting on your fingers?

...I got nothin'.

Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 02:12 PM (P1f+c)

378 What is it?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 02:08 PM (IqV8l)

I feel better that somebody else didn't know. :^)
It's apparently the mathematical portion of biology. That's a really basic description but that's all I'm good for. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:12 PM (AllCR)

379 A co-worker got his degree in agricultural business. So naturally this led him to become a professional land surveyor.

He originally took a gunner job to help with his tuition.

Life is funny.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 21, 2018 02:14 PM (EhZNT)

380 The counselor also said "People on the autism spectrum often are very interested in science and maths" My son hadn't told him that he's on the spectrum, so I think that was very inappropriate for the counselor to say that. The counselor then said "I hope I didn't offend you." Son was really annoyed at the comment.

I told him next time to go see the guy who spoke to last time who was much better.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:10 PM (AllCR)

As I've previously related, practically everybody in my grad school class was probably on the spectrum. Some were way off the end of the spectrum, I suspect.

Only one of us has won a Nobel Prize. So far.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

381
"The science of the application of mathematics to biology."

That's still pretty vague.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 02:14 PM (IqV8l)

382 I feel better that somebody else didn't know. :^)
It's apparently the mathematical portion of biology. That's a really basic description but that's all I'm good for. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:12 PM (AllCR)

--------------

I just read the Wiki description, and I still have no idea what it really is.

Daahhhhhh.......

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 02:14 PM (+1YDx)

383 I'm guessing it's using mathematical concepts to map behaviors of biological entities or environments.

If you search you're cheating, btw, but someone is going to have to do it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 21, 2018 02:15 PM (tve+u)

384 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

I told him (because he asked about the Nobel Prize) that most people are not widely know outside of their workplaces or with their families and friends. Anyway, I said being widely known is not a good thing necessarily. Jeffrey Dahmer is not widely known too. It's Not a good thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:17 PM (AllCR)

385 I have a cousin who got a masters in marine biology that refused to relocate and lives 300+ miles from the ocean. Not going to find Flipper or Shamu there.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 02:17 PM (89T5c)

386 The counselor also said "People on the autism spectrum often are very
interested in science and maths" My son hadn't told him that he's on the
spectrum, so I think that was very inappropriate for the counselor to
say that.

---

Yeah, that's a crappy thing to say.

I wonder if he tries to redirect black kids away from English lit, or girls away from math?

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 21, 2018 02:17 PM (tve+u)

387 That's still pretty vague.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 21, 2018 02:14 PM (IqV8l)

Very. It manages to be both factually accurate and completely useless as a definition.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:18 PM (y87Qq)

388 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:10 PM (AllCR)

At my workplace we guess that about 85.276% place on the OCD/Sperg spectrum.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:18 PM (gUCYC)

389 I have a relative who got an engineering degree, then went back to work on the family farm.

Had the mental horsepower, but not the mindset. Farming suited him better.

Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 02:11 PM (P1f+c)

I think that's often the case. Too bad more of us don't have a farm to devote ourselves to.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:19 PM (txw6d)

390 Rating them ones or zeroes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Nailed it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 02:20 PM (QLvwG)

391 Poor guy.. He's just not good with small talk which is a skill he has to learn even if it's not natural for him..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:20 PM (AllCR)

392 Very. It manages to be both factually accurate and completely useless as a definition.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:18 PM (y87Qq)

The very definition of an accountant!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 02:21 PM (QLvwG)

393 Very. It manages to be both factually accurate and completely useless as a definition.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:18 PM (y87Qq)

Circular reasoning.

See reasoning, circular.

I recently replaced the cartridge in a faucet. The cartridge came with instructions:

1. Remove old cartridge.

2. Insert new cartridge.

3. Turn on water and check for leaks.

OK then.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

394 I have a cousin who got a masters in marine biology that refused to relocate and lives 300+ miles from the ocean. Not going to find Flipper or Shamu there.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 02:17 PM (89T5c)

Does it make a difference? Maybe they spend most of their time with journals or reviewing field notes, I don't know. One of my uncles is a cosmologist and the guy doesn't even live near the universe.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:22 PM (y87Qq)

395 I recently replaced the cartridge in a faucet. The cartridge came with instructions:

1. Remove old cartridge.

2. Insert new cartridge.

3. Turn on water and check for leaks.

OK then.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

That's a pretty handy set of instructions right there. Too many instructions are task-specific and can't be adapted to other applications. Instructions like that can be applied to replacing faucet cartridges, furnaces, furniture, pets, human organs, loved ones, all kinds of things. No need to reinvent the wheel every time!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:27 PM (y87Qq)

396 One of my uncles is a cosmologist and the guy doesn't even live near the universe.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:22 PM (y87Qq)

My friend's friend is a cosmetologist, and she doesn't, either.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:27 PM (txw6d)

397 I told him (because he asked about the Nobel Prize) that most people are not widely know outside of their workplaces or with their families and friends. Anyway, I said being widely known is not a good thing necessarily. Jeffrey Dahmer is not widely known too. It's Not a good thing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:17 PM (AllCR)

That's certainly true. And getting a Noble Prize does not guarantee happiness.

A lot of guys would say they'd be happy when they finished their Ph.D.

But then they did, and they weren't happy. They'd be happy when they got a good postdoc, they said.

But then they did, and they weren't happy. They'd be happy when they got a good faculty position, they said.

But then they did, and they weren't happy. They'd be happy when they got tenure, they said.

But then they did, and they weren't happy. They'd be happy when they got an endowed chair, they said.

But then they did, and they weren't happy. They'd be happy when they got into the National Academy, they said.

But then they did, and they weren't happy. They'd be happy when they got the Nobel Prize, they said.

But then a few did, and they weren't happy. Now what? A second one, maybe? Or are they scratching where it doesn't itch?

----

Also, why would you WANT to be widely known? What good is that to you? If I were in Hollywood, I wouldn't want to be an actor; I'd rather be a director, producer, or studio executive. Then you can go to a 7/11 and no one bothers you, because they have no idea who you are. Perfect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:28 PM (YqDXo)

398 Instructions like that can be applied to replacing faucet cartridges, furnaces, furniture, pets, human organs, loved ones, all kinds of things.

1. Remove old brain.

2. Insert new brain.

3. Turn on and check for leaks.

By gum you're right!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:28 PM (gUCYC)

399 I need to ask my lesbians about the bones. They're chew toys, so I guess the smoking is to preserve them.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:29 PM (txw6d)

400 I recently replaced the cartridge in a faucet. The cartridge came with instructions:

1. Remove old cartridge.

2. Insert new cartridge.

3. Turn on water and check for leaks.

OK then.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 21, 2018 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

That's a pretty handy set of instructions right there. Too many
instructions are task-specific and can't be adapted to other
applications. Instructions like that can be applied to replacing faucet
cartridges, furnaces, furniture, pets, human organs, loved ones, all
kinds of things. No need to reinvent the wheel every time!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:27 PM (y87Qq)

Directions like that should be prominently posted in every heart cath lab to assist the cardiologist when he/she goes in to replace heart stents.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 02:29 PM (QLvwG)

401 Limited jobs in marine biology to begin with. I would think for field research, more employment prospects (hatcheries and the like), it would make sense to be near the ocean. Especially if you are still unemployed.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 21, 2018 02:30 PM (89T5c)

402 3. Turn on and check for leaks.

By gum you're right!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:28 PM (gUCYC)

And it doesn't even matter if there ARE leaks! Just check for them, and you can tick off step 3. Now you're done and you can reward yourself with the tasty frozen treat of your choice!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:30 PM (y87Qq)

403 Take the rich, leave the famous.

Posted by: Clemenza at July 21, 2018 02:31 PM (QLvwG)

404

Remove wrenched ankle

Posted by: Operation instruction at July 21, 2018 02:31 PM (IqV8l)

405 Is it me or do the comments keep going gray?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:34 PM (txw6d)

406 Is it me or do the comments keep going gray?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:34 PM (txw6d)

I'm not seeing anything odd. Aside from they're always gray, but they don't seem to be any grayer than normal.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:36 PM (y87Qq)

407

I think that is often true of people-that they think they'll be happy when..... He wants to be widely known because he said he was a mediocre student and didn't graduate at the top of the class and was not known for anything. I don't think he was a mediocre student. I told him I was more impressed that he had challenges and overcame them than by someone who did very well and it was all a breeze for them. He's a rather sensitive self deprecating teen. He wasn't convinced.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:39 PM (AllCR)

408 >>>He wants to be widely known because he said he was a mediocre student
and didn't graduate at the top of the class and was not known for
anything.
I think this is common in youth - people want to be respected by their peer group. Some of us outgrow that and become comfortable with who we are, and meeting our own expectations, rather than others'.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:41 PM (txw6d)

409 So this big-ass cucumber is sitting on the counter next to me.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:42 PM (txw6d)

410 Is that from your SiL, the cucumberess?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:44 PM (y87Qq)

411 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:41 PM (txw6d)

Thanks. I think it's quite common too.

I remember stories of kids who graduated at the top of their class and went to Columbia-an Ivy league school. Three kids committed suicide in one year-I think they were depressed, of course, but it also had to do with the fact that instead of standing out they were with kids who were at the top of their class too, and the competition and not being the star was difficult for them

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:45 PM (AllCR)

412 Very late to thread - listened to VDH -twice.

He casually dropped a comment about talking with Thomas Sowell at Hoover Institute lunches. OMG ! My view of cmoon sense heaven!

I want to be there just to listen. My hubris does not extend to allowing me to participate in the talk - but to be allowed to listen to Sowell and VDH over lunch - wow.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 21, 2018 02:51 PM (0Sukz)

413 Is that from your SiL, the cucumberess?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:44 PM (y87Qq)

Indeed it is!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 02:52 PM (txw6d)

414 Max Boot, living up to his name of "most possible amount of vomiting"

Can you believe that an Obama-era scandal was that the president wore a tan suit or put his feet up on the desk? Oh, to have those days back again

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2018 02:53 PM (39g3+)

415 I told him I was more impressed that he had challenges and overcame them than by someone who did very well and it was all a breeze for them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:39 PM (AllCR)

Having an easy time with classes through high school leads to terrible habits later on. People who had to work hard for grades learned study skills and time management skills that put them in a good position later on, whether or not they go to college or do something vocational instead. Waking up to find yourself failing out of college because you can't just show up on exam days and ace the final any more and then discovering that you never learned to study and don't know how to start is pretty miserable.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:53 PM (y87Qq)

416 Oh, the sexual life of the ostrich.
is the strangest in the land.
In the height of the mating season,
it buries its head in the sand.
When along comes the male of the species,
and spies that great *ss in the air.
Does he think that it's male or female,
and does he even bloody well care?

Posted by: A verse from a rugby song at July 21, 2018 02:54 PM (DMUuz)

417 414 Max Boot, living up to his name of "most possible amount of vomiting"

Can you believe that an Obama-era scandal was that the president wore a tan suit or put his feet up on the desk? Oh, to have those days back again
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2018 02:53 PM (39g3+)

There's ignorant and then there's willfully ignorant.

Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 02:55 PM (sdi6R)

418 That dirt artist video was just plain boring. Outrageous I can take, but not boring.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 21, 2018 02:56 PM (RfnqA)

419 Having an easy time with classes through high school leads to terrible habits later on.

Very gifted, bright kids are very difficult to challenge sufficiently to teach them good skills and self discipline. If everything comes pretty easy, then its difficult to convince yourself to try to work hard at other things, particularly if they don't seem significant or important. I think raising such a child would be a terrific challenge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2018 02:56 PM (39g3+)

420 417 414 Max Boot, living up to his name of "most possible amount of vomiting"

Can you believe that an Obama-era scandal was that the president wore a tan suit or put his feet up on the desk? Oh, to have those days back again
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 21, 2018 02:53 PM (39g3+)

There's ignorant and then there's willfully ignorant.
Posted by: rickl at July 21, 2018 02:55 PM (sdi6R)

And then there's Max, sticking his head in a mound of dirt with his ass in the air.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 21, 2018 02:56 PM (gUCYC)

421 I remember stories of kids who graduated at the top of their class and went to Columbia-an Ivy league school. Three kids committed suicide in one year-I think they were depressed, of course, but it also had to do with the fact that instead of standing out they were with kids who were at the top of their class too, and the competition and not being the star was difficult for them
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:45 PM (AllCR)

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My daughter was like that. When she got to College, she was depressed/pissed that she wasn't on the Dean's list, even though she was working her ass off. She was in the 89th percentile in her class though. In HS, she was always at or very near the top of her class.

Her Mom and I don't talk much, but we do come together for her sake. We both had a talk with her, and basically told her that if she was truly doing her best, that was all that we/she could expect. Took her about another semester, but she finally got on board with this idea.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 02:57 PM (+1YDx)

422 Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 02:53 PM (y87Qq)

Thanks; Good points.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:58 PM (AllCR)

423 Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 21, 2018 02:57 PM (+1YDx)

I'm glad that she got on board with that idea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 21, 2018 02:59 PM (AllCR)

424 Go ahead, bury your head in the dirt.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 21, 2018 02:59 PM (RfnqA)

425 You see, Ms Lopez describes her mission as nothing less than "expanding the consciousness of human beings." As will doubtless become clear.

Expanding? These new-age douchebags are assisting in ensuring that human consciousness will eventually implode, leaving behind an utter vacuum.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 21, 2018 03:02 PM (Tyii7)

426 So this big-ass cucumber is sitting on the counter next to me.
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I am a student at a large Midwestern university. I never thought I would be writing your magazine, but one Saturday afternoon I noticed this big-ass cucumber is sitting on the counter next to me...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 21, 2018 03:05 PM (ty7RM)

427 I am a student at a large Midwestern university. I never thought I would be writing your magazine, but one Saturday afternoon I noticed this big-ass cucumber is sitting on the counter next to me...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 21, 2018 03:05 PM (ty7RM)

KITCHEN

You are in the kitchen of a house. Exits lead west to the dining room and north to the driveway. A stairway leads down to the basement. Along the south wall are the kitchen sink and counter.

There is a big-ass cucumber here (on the counter).

> TAKE CUCUMBER

*** YOU HAVE DIED ***

Posted by: hogmartin at July 21, 2018 03:12 PM (y87Qq)

428 Hungry? Horny? The versatile big-ass cucumber can satisfy either craving.

Big ass brand cucumbers. Obey your craving.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 03:18 PM (QLvwG)

429 The wonders of Zork have much to teach the uninitiated.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 21, 2018 03:19 PM (0Sukz)

430 I will leave the cucumber untouched. I have no lives to spare.
I exit to the west to smoke a cigarette on the deck. The lesbians' smokers are billowing.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 03:33 PM (txw6d)

431 You begin to realize that a Grue has eaten your cucumber.

And you.

*** YOU HAVE DIED ***

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 21, 2018 03:33 PM (BRvh1)

432 Hungry? Horny? The versatile big-ass cucumber can satisfy either craving.

Big ass brand cucumbers. Obey your craving.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 21, 2018 03:18 PM (QLvwG)

I just ate half an Italian hoagie, and I have a team of dedicated sex toys downstairs. I really don't need the cucumber, however beguiling it may be.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 03:35 PM (txw6d)

433 Did you know that 1 out of 3 Hillary supporters are just as stupid as the other 2?

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/90p1oc/latest_poll_results/

Posted by: Hereogar at July 21, 2018 04:12 PM (Gsmsg)

434 @416 --

Ha! That's funny! Wish I could hear the melody; the way I'm playing it in my head, the last stanza has an extra syllable. Throws everything off.

I've enjoyed the college/employment discussion. It aligns with a situation in our household. (Not going to go into detail.)

Still, it's amazing how many types of jobs exist. Reminds me of when I went to the counseling center at college. I took a test on job interests. Scored evenly on everything except farming, which was way at the bottom of the scale. As I had grown up on a farm, I was not in the least bit surprised.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 21, 2018 05:00 PM (TPaJb)

435 I may need to find out about this "big-ass cucumber" meme the Horde has adopted. Sounds like it could have staying power.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 05:08 PM (vFd8X)

436 374
My niece just spent 4 years getting her degree at a University in Physical Therapy...

Then took a job at a Head Hunting firm... where she is a glorified secretary.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q

I have a relative who got an engineering degree, then went back to work on the family farm.

Had the mental horsepower, but not the mindset. Farming suited him better.

Posted by: mikeski at July 21, 2018 02:11 PM (P1f+c)

I've changed careers twice. I don't think either of these is necessarily all bad. For the glorified secretary, I'm very much in favor of people starting on the ground floor, and then being promoted up. We all know people who started out at the bottom and really learned the business and how to work with people. As for wasting the PT degree, true that she's not directly applying it, but I bet she had to work with patients in a practical internship of some type, and being a headhunter is still all about working with people. Farming overlaps a lot with engineering -- the farm is a factory where you take the inputs, apply labor and technology, and get outputs. There are machines. Agriculture may be a better major for a future farmer, but an engineering degree isn't totally wasted.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at July 21, 2018 08:27 PM (jK8Z7)

437
I may need to find out about this "big-ass cucumber" meme the Horde has adopted. Sounds like it could have staying power.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 21, 2018 05:08 PM (vFd8X)

The whole point of the big ass is staying power. Behold the hindquarters on this thing.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 21, 2018 09:24 PM (txw6d)

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