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Thread before the Gardening Thread: Wonderland [KT]

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Serving your mid-day open thread needs

It's Saturday, which I hope means that this is not a big news day. You may have noticed that I like to visit David Thompson's blog on days like this. There's a different pace there than here at AoSHQ. David often adds significantly to his posts from the comments, so I like to wait until his posts have aged a bit before reading them.

In the case of this post, he added the photo above in the comments. Plus a link about "life among the Mao-lings" at Concordia University:

For readers, Alice's journey in Wonderland is amusing. But to be Alice is something altogether different. The experience is hard to pin down with words. With few exceptions, no one on campus is officially censored. But the culture itself exerts power. One feels constantly judged. One is always on-edge. To perceive nuance, to be sceptical, to ask questions, gets one quickly accused of moral deficiency. . .

And links about a certain male feminist who wants to fix men - "the heterosexual white ones" and about "the inexplicable demise of an intersectionally feminist bookstore" where customers were expected to "abide by" seven "guidelines".

Have you been to a place that seemed like a wonderland to you lately?

I also thought the post on why random people must be punished was quite meaty. Does blocking roads get people to "care"? How about deliberately blocking the paths of ambulances and giving paramedics the finger?

In the comments, Rafi notes that "The difference between leftwing 'activism' and the zombie apocalypse gets smaller by the day."

Hope you have a great weekend. Have something non-apocalyptic planned?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:15 AM




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1 First! in the Patriarchy!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:16 AM (hMwEB)

2 or maybe it's the Pixiarchy?


Oh an dbtw - Prime Day this Monday-Tuesday

I did a post - link in nic

am going on vacay though so I'll probably miss any good deals meself

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:18 AM (hMwEB)

3 All Hail the Patriarchy!

That'll be $5.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:18 AM (jtew9)

4 At least with zombies, i'd feel a small pang of remorse and pity before bashing their braincase in with a shovel.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 11:20 AM (BRvh1)

5
The wife says you spend a hundred bucks on Amazon Prime Day and you get some one day delivery for free for a while.

WTF? They can't even do two day delivery anymore.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 14, 2018 11:20 AM (LOgQ4)

6 5
The wife says you spend a hundred bucks on Amazon Prime Day and you get some one day delivery for free for a while.

WTF? They can't even do two day delivery anymore.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 14, 2018 11:20 AM (LOgQ4)

"Free One Day Delivery!


It'll get there....


One day."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 11:21 AM (BRvh1)

7 Went to a butterfly house recently, won't name the city for operational security, but the "staff' made one feel insignificant compared to the bugs flying all over the place.

I need to visit again and leave a can of Raid on a back table in the bug house.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 11:21 AM (EoRCO)

8

Have something non-apocalyptic planned?

Gig this evening, then watch whatever's left of the NASCAR race where I will pulling for someone, anyone to put Kyle Busch in the wall.

Then Monday, I'll have my fingers crossed that Amazon discounts a steel snare drum I've had my eye on for a year.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 14, 2018 11:22 AM (HaL55)

9 "Does blocking roads get people to "care"? How about deliberately
blocking the paths of ambulances and giving paramedics the finger?"
Does a child having a screaming tantrum in the supermarket give a schit that 20 people who aren't his mother all want to stuff a watermelon down his throat? Compare and contrast.


Posted by: Faye Knuze at July 14, 2018 11:22 AM (vZzV+)

10 Right now it's actually KTE that has prime (as a student it's half off)
I'm thinking of getting a Prime free trial so I can get the KU deal.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:24 AM (hMwEB)

11 The wife says you spend a hundred bucks on Amazon Prime Day and you get some one day delivery for free for a while.

WTF? They can't even do two day delivery anymore.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 14, 2018 11:20 AM (LOgQ4)


I love commerce, sexually, but come on people. Amazon herds us all to their particular sheep pen, by shaking some shiny baubles in our faces.

And this equals a win... how?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:24 AM (cY3LT)

12
I've had my eye on a chipper for a while. But it's only gone up in price every week since I put it on my Wish List.

If they think I'll suddenly buy on Prime Day when they discount it back down to original price -- well ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 14, 2018 11:24 AM (LOgQ4)

13 Amazon is a virtual monopoly right now though for indy writers, specially as right wing writers have been blocked from traditional publications

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:25 AM (hMwEB)

14 Oh, and unrelated to anything else, except there was a discussion a few days ago about greatest Rolling Stones songs, or whatever.

My nomination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugYzDqQtdHU

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)

15 I need to visit again and leave a can of Raid on a back table in the bug house.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 11:21 AM (EoRCO


Take us!

Posted by: Mister Toad and family at July 14, 2018 11:26 AM (WX+Ok)

16 Scenes from Wally World.

Lady your little kid is screaming so why are you dragging them through the store?

10:05pm on a Friday night and I see some yutes using the parking lot as their hang-out space. Really? Oh wait guess its better than you rampaging through the store.

For a bit of color. Helped a lady who had just returned from senior center luau. So she had flowers in her hair, a grass skirt on, and a seashell bra over her pink sweater.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:26 AM (jtew9)

17 is josephistan here?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:27 AM (hMwEB)

18 Forgot to mention on thread below.
Heard yesterday supervisor mention at another company building connected to the office I was at had a coffee bill for a large office was over $4,000 in 1 month, don't know but suspect that was to a vendor who supplied the coffee but either way what are they charging and drinking for that much?

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 11:28 AM (pHfeF)

19 Helped a lady who had just returned from senior center luau. So she had flowers in her hair, a grass skirt on, and a seashell bra over her pink sweater.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:26 AM (jtew9)
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Don't tell anyone, but that was Cannibal Bob's mother.

Posted by: bluebell at July 14, 2018 11:28 AM (JJZzu)

20 One gets the feeling that this is not the first time behind bars for these women:

https://tinyurl.com/y8ljwzhw

Posted by: pookysgirl at July 14, 2018 11:29 AM (XKZwp)

21 For a bit of color. Helped a lady who had just returned from senior center luau. So she had flowers in her hair, a grass skirt on, and a seashell bra over her pink sweater.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:26 AM (jtew9)

Aww, sweet.

Anna, I have a wally world question - why do the workers usually seem either grim or grumpy? Is it bad management?
Or is it just my local Wally world?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:29 AM (hMwEB)

22 I buy what I want when I want it, Prime or no Prime. I can't think of anything I need right now.

Oh yes, a maid. I could use one of those. I have plenty of cleaning supplies, but nobody who is willing to use them.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 11:30 AM (sdi6R)

23 I find it interesting that merchants have minimum purchases for credit card transactions, when a number of things are at play: 1. Credit card users spend more and thus offset the transaction fee. 2. It is not hard to find a merchant service provider such as Square that doesn't charge any sort of transaction fee, therefore it doesn't matter how much the transaction amount is, it is just a straight percentage fee. 3. If you can't make a profit after selling a bottle of water for a dollar and paying 3 cents to the merchant service, you don't deserve to be in business.

Posted by: Denver at July 14, 2018 11:30 AM (u/aKl)

24

"Does blocking roads get people to "care"? How about deliberately
blocking the paths of ambulances and giving paramedics the finger?"
Does a child having a screaming tantrum in the supermarket give a schit that 20 people who aren't his mother all want to stuff a watermelon down his throat? Compare and contrast.


I have a better idea: have the family of whoever's being transported in said ambulance sue the living shit out of anyone who blocks it. Cite personal and medical damages and have everyone in the family (including the pets) sue for the emotional distress of seeing a loved one suffer needlessly.

Then there's US 18 Code 241. That law needs to be dusted off and used as a cudgel against the Progtard Ctrl-Left. Early and often.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 14, 2018 11:31 AM (HaL55)

25 Yes, I've been to a "wonderland" recently: Austin, TX. "Keep Austin weird" indeed.

Posted by: pookysgirl at July 14, 2018 11:31 AM (XKZwp)

26 What the heck is a butterfly house?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 11:31 AM (IqV8l)

27 Crap, I really am the new Willow.

It's the pockets of Wonderland within Normalville that give me pause. Like mini black holes.

I was told at work that people who don't like kimchee are racist xenophobes, because it's just saurkraut. Waaahhh?
And they weren't joking. I always assume 'tis merely jest, but no.

P.S. I love kimchee.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 11:31 AM (gUCYC)

28 I had Amazon prime free for a month, didn't use it once, then was charged for it the second month lucky a complaint got it wiped off the books. If I had another free month still wouldn't know what to do with it.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 11:32 AM (pHfeF)

29 All the wanna-be bullies found a way to bully and feel righteous about it.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 11:32 AM (4HMW8)

30 "In the comments, Rafi notes that "The difference between leftwing 'activism' and the zombie apocalypse gets smaller by the day."

I've been saying that for years. For at least a decade schools have been training kids to *not* think but simply emote in the direction of a target chosen by those in authority. And they have *no* boundaries or checks on their language or behavior as long as that language and behavior is directed at an approved target. Young people en masse have been turned into a zombie mob ripe to be unleashed. It is cynical and deeply evil.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 14, 2018 11:32 AM (UENOA)

31 >>>Have you been to a place that seemed like a wonderland to you lately?

Yes. My brother's mind. He thinks he's living in our hometown in the late 70s. It varies. He thinks he's taking college courses and attached to Ft Dix (that was in the early 90s when he was flying helicopters). He thinks my father, who's been dead for 18 years, is in the hospital. In his mind, Mitt Romney is President.

Yeah, it's a wonderland.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:33 AM (txw6d)

32 A place with a $4,000 a month coffee bill is a wonderland to me

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 11:34 AM (pHfeF)

33 I remember David Thompson. One of the great dunk artists.

Posted by: tu3031 at July 14, 2018 11:34 AM (O5Q3r)

34 I would think that sign was sarcasm and get a chuckle until the shop proved otherwise. Now get off my lawn but people putting a $5 or under charge on a credit card is insane. You can carry $25 in folding cash and coins around lazy butts, and if you are charging because you don't have anymore cash you need to skip getting lattes for a few weeks.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 14, 2018 11:34 AM (r4KP2)

35 I buy what I want when I want it, Prime or no Prime. I can't think of anything I need right now.

Oh yes, a maid. I could use one of those. I have plenty of cleaning supplies, but nobody who is willing to use them.
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 11:30 AM (sdi6R)


Hah! Yes, same here. I have all the supplies already, I am even willing to buy her a uniform. Oh yes I am.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

36 Sorry, Miley. Hugs and prayers.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:35 AM (hMwEB)

37 That placard is criminal. It's highway robbery!

Posted by: Fritz at July 14, 2018 11:36 AM (eAr55)

38 If I'm doing self -checkout I'll use a credit card even if it's under $5

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:37 AM (hMwEB)

39 Howdy, PaleRider! I took the "patriarchy" part as a joke. I do know that merchants would like to avoid small charges because it runs up more fees per dollar charged.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 11:37 AM (4HMW8)

40 Oh yes, a maid. I could use one of those. I have plenty of cleaning supplies, but nobody who is willing to use them.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 11:30 AM (sdi6R)


I know that situation. I've had Scrubbing Bubbles poised to clean the bathroom. I wake up every morning and no one's done anything.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:37 AM (txw6d)

41 Sounds like a real tough situation, Miley. Hugs.

Posted by: IC at July 14, 2018 11:37 AM (PEJUg)

42 That feminist bookshop, that was up in Portland? Or just in the generic area Upper West Coast Fruitloop Section of the US, to be safe.

Irregardlessly, in the sidebar you have those Portland protestors getting pepper-balled (ooooo, a macho term there) and arrested. The sound track is entertaining too, as the womyns scream Fuck You continuously, and one in particular shouts "is this how you treat women???" I thought you had ask a person about their preferred gender first and not make assumptions? The new rules, hard to follow they are.

In summary, they want to vagina-bang you while at the same time they want feminine privilege.

While, of, course, being treated as full equals.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 14, 2018 11:37 AM (0ogQG)

43

Yep. Hugs and Prayers, Miley.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 14, 2018 11:39 AM (HaL55)

44 >>The wife says you spend a hundred bucks on Amazon Prime Day and you get some one day delivery for free for a while.

Oh good. I'm looking for a couple of electric chainsaws I can attach to the front of my truck--for the people that insist on 'blocking the road.'

Posted by: Under Fire at July 14, 2018 11:39 AM (r9UYA)

45 speaking of Cannibal Bob...


https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/1018128939540275200

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:39 AM (hMwEB)

46 Miley, just sent up a prayer for you and your family.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 11:40 AM (4HMW8)

47 I'm sorry about your brother, Miley.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 11:40 AM (sdi6R)

48
"Does blocking roads get people to "care"?




Yes it certainly does, it might not be the way they want people to care though.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 11:40 AM (10vO4)

49 Miley, do the doctors know what's causing it?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:40 AM (hMwEB)

50 Help, Horde. How do I paste something in here on Android tablet? Long touch just gives me those orange trapzoidal thingies for copying. Already got it on the clipboard. How do I get it in here

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 11:41 AM (m/IZ9)

51 Miley!

How are you doing hun?

Posted by: SMH at July 14, 2018 11:41 AM (OIiAB)

52 Amazon: my last credit card statement was full of Prime charges - not a Prime member.
Amazon quickly revoked the charges. And I'm getting a new CC #.

Inquired how could it have been done since it was a dedicated card. Answer : many.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 14, 2018 11:41 AM (9YKBM)

53 I had Amazon prime free for a month, didn't use it once, then was charged for it the second month lucky a complaint got it wiped off the books. If I had another free month still wouldn't know what to do with it.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 11:32 AM (pHfeF)


It saves me time and money. Shopping is a breeze, and virtually EVERYTHING I buy that is not groceries, I buy online (mostly Amazon).

So no trips to Target or Wallyworld for me. When I need laundry detergent, I sit here and get it. They send it to my house. Even non-perishable foodstuffs (coffee, condiments, etc), if I don't have to walk up and down somebody's aisles to get it, I will gladly pay... what, about $100 a year, to Amazon, to ship it all to my house, bing bang, boom. Done.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:41 AM (cY3LT)

54 Voter Mom it is because corporate is putting the screws to the time sheet.

Sure they have given everyone a raise. But now they are going to lean manning where each department gets fewer hours than it used to, some departments the number of worker hours per week has been slashed by over 50%.

To compensate while dolling it up to sound nice, each worker no longer can specify times they can't work. Well they can but as one guy in my store is seeing with the new scheduling program, he only gets 4.5 hours a week.

Speaking of the new scheduling program, it now makes most sales floor associates only work a 1pm to 10pm shift.

Also whereas I used to be anomaly in the store able to work five different departments, because of the lean manning everyone is being forced to learn other departments or they won't see as many hours.

So yeah, there are reasons why there is grumpiness.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:42 AM (jtew9)

55 place that seemed like a wonderland to you lately?"

Belleville Meat Market.

Or Buc-ees...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 14, 2018 11:42 AM (7LY+6)

56 the whole Trump/Russia story is wonderland ...

I'm not clear on exactly what the "looking glass" figuratively meant, but since most of the (fake) Trump/Russia accusations reflected the (real) Hillary/Russia collusion, they do seem to be projecting their own image on Trump.

But this is not (just) a psychological defect, it is a deliberate agitprop tactic. To completely flip the true story into their DNC/Fusion fake narrative, after decades of Dem/Soviet infiltration, is truly an amazing PsyOp success (for the enemy).

It's reminiscent of LBJ's Dems going from KKK to savior for the blacks, almost overnight, right into wonderland. The "saviors" run city after city into the ground, yet maintain 90% of the black vote, almost like the OWN that demographic, despite their abuse.

But zombie leftists live in the narrative (wonderland), so they need that red pill transformation, which might require intervention. Logic does not work there, as Alice found out.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 14, 2018 11:42 AM (bT8Z4)

57 Thank you, votermom. It's a morbidly fascinating state of affairs. I think maybe this latest thing with my mother made him snap. She's breathtakingly self-centered.

EMTs took her away in an ambulance last week and none of us have been to see her. She had a pacemaker put in on Tuesday. You really have to wonder, as a nurse or whatever, what's going on that no one comes to see her.

Reasons. That's why.

Yeah, I feel the weight of responsibility. I'm going to have to go see her in the rehab today. Do I want to? No. I think I'll just go to sadly shake my head and chide her for being a weak and self-indulgent woman.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:42 AM (txw6d)

58 I am even willing to buy her a uniform. Oh yes I am.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

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I bought my Ex one of those, way back when we were still just dating. I called her one day, on the way home, and asked if the Maid could be there when I got there.

The response was a big, big sigh, and an "OK, fine". You would think I would have seen the big flashing warning sign, wouldn't you? As "Ex" says, you would be wrong.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 11:43 AM (oXwsm)

59 Miley, that's a tough row you're hoeing. So sorry you have to go through this. Will be thinking hard on both of you today.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 11:44 AM (m/IZ9)

60 Tiny.cc/mofreedom
Missouri Right to Work campaigner jobs through aug 7
$100/day + food/gas compensation

Posted by: Urban Dicktionary at July 14, 2018 11:44 AM (w3KGC)

61

I started shopping on Amazon when I got tired of going into a brick-and-mortar store and discovering they didn't have what I'd purchased at that very same store a couple of weeks earlier.


And given the price of shipping, Prime is a steal. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it suits us just fine.


Come on Amazon, discount that Ludwig snare for me on Monday. Please?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 14, 2018 11:44 AM (HaL55)

62 Butterfly house is a greenhouse for butterflies, essentially.

Hershey gardens has an especially nice one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:44 AM (YPqbH)

63 votermom. I expect merchants with self checkouts are cool with that. They are saving having to pay a cashier. And I was with a group at an eatery where you selected what you want and paid and then sat down and my cash transaction took the cashier out of her zone and was a nuisance. But I prefer to pay cash for dining out, getting coffee etc.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 14, 2018 11:45 AM (r4KP2)

64 On my Samsung galaxy I touch where I want to copy for a second and it will come up copy share select all web search
Move it to encompass what you want then select copy.
Drop where you want to go and select paste.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 11:45 AM (pHfeF)

65 SMH!

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:45 AM (txw6d)

66 that sucks anna

I was at a big wally world recently, only 2 registers open kys the self -checkout
crazy lines

I hate to say it but the workers at Target seem happier

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (hMwEB)

67 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (YPqbH)

68 Yes. My brother's mind. He thinks he's living in our hometown in the late 70s. It varies. He thinks he's taking college courses and attached to Ft Dix (that was in the early 90s when he was flying helicopters). He thinks my father, who's been dead for 18 years, is in the hospital. In his mind, Mitt Romney is President.

Yeah, it's a wonderland.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:33 AM (txw6d)


Anyone who has spent time around people who are conscious and clear, but clearly not in their right minds, has to at least consider the possibility that THEIR world is much better than ours.

I hope that is the case for your brother.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (cY3LT)

69 Aw, Miley...I had one of those moms. Didn't see or speak to her for the last year of her life. My heart goes out to you.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 11:48 AM (m/IZ9)

70 Also on paste it should come up clip board to select 1 item from it.
On my Dolphin browser it doesn't go to clip board but on the other two it does. I can copy and paste from browser to a different browser.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (pHfeF)

71 I get the dried up billions in government subsidies combined with pretty much zero demand for the product element, but can someone explain this to me?

"Tesla's losses increased by 97.5 per cent to just under $785 million in the first quarter of 2018, despite the fact that earnings rose by 26.4 per cent to more than $3.4 billion."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (YPqbH)

72 I had to postpone my road trip to prepare for whatever is coming down the pike. A roadtrip that had been planned for months. And I have my mother to thank, who just decides she's going to get hammered on beer, and puke and shit all over the house. I can't tell you the untold thousands of dollars that have been spent on this selfish and self-destructive woman. Over half a million, for sure. Worth it? No. She doesn't appreciate the gift of life.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (txw6d)

73 What the heck is a butterfly house?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 11:31 AM (IqV8l)

It's a place where water walkers and do-gooders raise and study butterflies for science. There is a lab up front where they raise them and study them, etc. and a habitat out back where paying customers can wander on a path in the butterflies' natural habitat complete with a running creek and various other butterfly friendly creatures.

It was hot out and the Butterfly House has great a/c as the bugs have to be kept at a certain temp so I visited it to cool off and use the can.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (EoRCO)

74 take care of yourself too, Miley

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (hMwEB)

75 So yeah, there are reasons why there is grumpiness.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR)


Wally appears to be going the way of K-Mart.

Items are not always stocked in the same place. It's frustrating. And items are out of stock. I've talked to other customers and they share this experience.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 14, 2018 11:50 AM (9YKBM)

76 "... Even non-perishable foodstuffs (coffee,
condiments, etc), if I don't have to walk up and down somebody's aisles
to get it, I will gladly pay... what, about $100 a year, to Amazon, to
ship it all to my house, bing bang, boom. Done.

Posted by: BurtTC
many items are close to the same as WalMart, but bulkier stuff seems to cost more. "Free shipping" apparently gets figured into the price. And now WalMart does some online thing where you order, drive up to their reserved spaces, and out comes your stuff, including groceries.

walmart.com/cp/free-store-pickup/2281929

Posted by: illiniwek at July 14, 2018 11:50 AM (bT8Z4)

77 The best part of visiting butterfly houses is watching the four year olds walking on the paths.

Step
Step
Crunch
Step
Crunch
Crunch

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:51 AM (YPqbH)

78 She doesn't appreciate the gift of life.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (txw6d)


Your life is a gift, also. How will you spend it?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:51 AM (cY3LT)

79

Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early.

Back when I had one of those job thingys, I worked at some place that wanted us to clock in and begin work 10 minutes early every day. They weren't going to pay us for those 10 minutes.

Imagine their amazement when I asked my stupidvisor if he worked for free. When he said "no" I told him I don't either. And if he pushed the issue, I'd be on the horn to the state Dept of Labor.

Naturally, the canned me first chance they got, but I got that jab in.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 14, 2018 11:52 AM (HaL55)

80 the whole Trump/Russia story is wonderland ...
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Truly. I never understood the "racist" part -- here is a man who was a very, very public figure for decades in the most diverse city on the planet and I never heard a whiff of accusation before he ran for president.

Or is it just that he wants people to obey the law?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 11:52 AM (gUCYC)

81 Thanks, Skip. That's what I'm doing but the options don't come up.

Tablet is ancient (four years old) Samsung. That may explain it.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 11:52 AM (m/IZ9)

82 Voter Mom, at my store it seems we have more cashiers, at least two, hanging out at Self Checkout. Plus the Online workers seem to keep increasing in numbers. Just waiting for Wally World to crater because of their desire to be Amazon.

Psst, you over educated idiots with the high salaries, Amazon has already beat you to that finish line. Find something else.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:53 AM (jtew9)

83 Anna P, Walmart is going cashierless. It's only a matter of time. So it's good to learn other departments/skills/etc. Be useful or be gone -- It's long been the way of commerce, even more so now.

Midnite shopping at a local Walmart (Pass Christian MS), there were no cashiers -- Self checkout only.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 14, 2018 11:53 AM (0ogQG)

84 Yeah, it's a wonderland.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:33 AM (txw6d)

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I'm very sorry to hear about your family troubles of late, Miley. A prayer is up for your entire family, from a group of us in my meatspace location.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 11:54 AM (oXwsm)

85 Skip @70

You've given me an idea. I usually run the blog on Pale Moon. Will try Android browser to see if that works.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 11:54 AM (m/IZ9)

86 my local grocery just upgraded their self-checkout - more terminals, fancier equipment

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:55 AM (hMwEB)

87 I get free shipping at Amazon all the time with no prime membership. I am perfectly willing to buy the minimum amount and wait a few extra days for stuff to arrive. I've been trying to limit 'zon purchases a bit because evil Bezos plus keep smaller competitors going.

I don't read enough and certainly not popular stuff of the day to get the benefit from the free kindle (loans?) from Prime nor would I use the other online content freebies or discounts at this time.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 14, 2018 11:55 AM (r4KP2)

88

OK Hordelings, gotta go do stuff.

Y'all try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 14, 2018 11:55 AM (HaL55)

89 Irregardlessly, in the sidebar you have those Portland protestors getting pepper-balled (ooooo, a macho term there) and arrested. The sound track is entertaining too, as the womyns scream Fuck You continuously, and one in particular shouts "is this how you treat women???"

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It's amusing how these pussies who chose to use force and violence in pursuit of their goals cry like babies when mild force and violence is used against them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

90 Anyone who has spent time around people who are
conscious and clear, but clearly not in their right minds, has to at
least consider the possibility that THEIR world is much better than
ours.



I hope that is the case for your brother.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (cY3LT)

Oh, this escape is just the vacation he needs.
Kurt would never contemplate speaking to a psychologist - this is the only way that would happen.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:56 AM (txw6d)

91 Aw, Miley...I had one of those moms. Didn't see or speak to her for the last year of her life. My heart goes out to you.


Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 11:48 AM (m/IZ9)

Thank you, creeper.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:57 AM (txw6d)

92 Amazon prrime allows me to avoid the surly indifferent ignorant unhelpful retail staffing, where i need to spend the money for which i have sweated insomnia inducing deadlines and worked many uncompensated hours past 40/week.

Posted by: BluesFish at July 14, 2018 11:57 AM (QSrx1)

93 I would think that sign was sarcasm and get a chuckle until the shop proved otherwise.

Sadly, Portlandia womens bookstore, and not sarcastic. The post also (humorously) reports the store sells a Riot Not Diet in size triple XL.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 14, 2018 11:57 AM (e6wQq)

94
Truly. I never understood the "racist" part -- here is a man who was a very, very public figure for decades in the most diverse city on the planet and I never heard a whiff of accusation before he ran for president.


And he was heavily involved with boxing and sports promotion which meant he was associating with plenty of black people and yet black athelete that I know of came out during the campaign and accused him of being racist

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 11:58 AM (10vO4)

95 I love self-checkout at the grocery store. I can bag my groceries the way I want. No more squished bread or produce!

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 11:58 AM (4HMW8)

96 Our factory floor workers need to be in uniform and at the morning kickoff meeting at 6am sharp.
And they get written up if they are caught in the shower more than 45 minutes before the end of shift. Of course "packing up their tools" with 90 minutes to go or "not enough time to finish that task so I left it for the next shift" are both rampant.

Posted by: Right to not work at July 14, 2018 11:58 AM (txS5b)

97 I asked my dad about the patriarchy and he beat the shit out of me.

Posted by: Trying To Grow A Chin at July 14, 2018 11:58 AM (UdKB7)

98

Have you been to a place that seemed like a wonderland to you lately?

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Not just lately, but for some time now. Residing in deep-blue Crook county Ill-annoy, I cannot fathom why the politicians at all levels seem intent on driving the contributing members of society out. I mean, it's not as if there aren't plenty of examples of how badly this ends when this occurs, but no the beatings will continue until morale improves. Just. Do. Not. Get. It.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 14, 2018 11:58 AM (LGXGf)

99 The post also (humorously) reports the store sells a Riot Not Diet T Shirt in size triple XL.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 14, 2018 11:59 AM (e6wQq)

100 we only got Prime after kte headed to college
been really convenient for us and her

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:59 AM (hMwEB)

101 Wally website is awful. If it were better they would be much more competitive. It seems intentional, except, you know, _corporate.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 14, 2018 12:00 PM (9YKBM)

102 my local grocery just upgraded their self-checkout - more terminals, fancier equipment
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 11:55 AM (hMwEB)


The other day I went into a store at which I rarely shop, to pick up one thing I needed. Headed toward the self-checkout lanes... there were people lined up waiting. Literally, a few feet away, the cashiers at the regular lanes were standing around, doing nothing.

It's a marshmallow world....

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:01 PM (cY3LT)

103 I get the dried up billions in government subsidies combined with pretty much zero demand for the product element, but can someone explain this to me?

"Tesla's losses increased by 97.5 per cent to just under $785 million in the first quarter of 2018, despite the fact that earnings rose by 26.4 per cent to more than $3.4 billion."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:49 AM (YPqbH)

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They are cannibalizing most all revenue, and burning investor cash at a furious clip, to become biggest, not necessarily bestest, first. The older Amazon model, now the new model for companies like Uber.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 12:01 PM (oXwsm)

104 Require, eh?
Yeah, no.
I like the 'baby Trump' and it is... Spinal Tap-esque, though I still think the '... how much more black...' was better than mini Stonehenge and 11. And Meathead...
Turkeyday: the winds are windy here in the big apple, here comes yuge baby trump, and... cue the zep bonfire commentary. All to the delight of whomever fake'splains shit to us.
All the while, not a single congresscritter has a thing to say about, you know, making the next 'budget' shorter by 5%.
Anyone know, me lazy, if all these CR/Omni things are still doing the stimulus and baseline budgeting? I'm guessing yes, because other people money.
I wonder if Beauregard is in a state of just can't believe any of this gambling.... Or, as is likely, a long time part of this bs we refer to as the federal government.
/shake-rattle-and-rant

Posted by: micky at July 14, 2018 12:01 PM (dF9Lb)

105 Yes! It does work in the Android browser.

Now, if I just don't get embarreled for posting on an old thread...

Linked this one on the last one. Slicker'n a whistle...except for the one-hour learning experience.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 12:01 PM (m/IZ9)

106 Remember when you guys got all hysterical when Michelle Obama briefly touched the Queen's back? Well, any reaction to this?

Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

107 Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (cY3LT)

Oh, this escape is just the vacation he needs.
Kurt would never contemplate speaking to a psychologist - this is the only way that would happen.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 11:56 AM (txw6d)


You may have said elsewhere, and if so I missed it. Do you know his diagnosis? What's causing this?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

108 I love ATM machines. No longer do I need to talk with surly bank cashiers who always say no to every request. The machine turns me down with less personal venom.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee consumist at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (e6wQq)

109 URL for above: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/us/trump-walks-front-queen-elizabeth.html

Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

110 Your life is a gift, also. How will you spend it?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:51 AM (cY3LT)

Seeking love.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (txw6d)

111 I never understood the "racist" part -- here is a man who was a very, very public figure for decades in the most diverse city on the planet and I never heard a whiff of accusation before he ran for president.


And he was heavily involved with boxing and sports promotion which meant he was associating with plenty of black people and yet black athelete that I know of came out during the campaign and accused him of being racist

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When all you've got is a racist hammer, everything looks like a racist nail.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (+y/Ru)

112 Remember when you guys got all hysterical....

Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)


No.

Now go away.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

113 I'm very sorry to hear about your family troubles of
late, Miley. A prayer is up for your entire family, from a group of us
in my meatspace location.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 11:54 AM (oXwsm)

I really appreciate that, Calm Mentor.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 12:03 PM (txw6d)

114 Yeah that is another amusing thing about the Human animal that makes them much like a cow.

It seems some are so conditioned that they don't even lift their heads to see if there is a quicker way out. My store has two self-checkout areas, the grocery side one will be slammed full with lines of people waiting; walk over to the other area and hardly anyone there so done in a few minutes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 12:04 PM (jtew9)

115 Video of Trump eclipsing the Queen.

https://bit.ly/2JomG7E

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

116 I spent about four years in the "support room" at an elementary school. This was supposed to be a resource for all kinds of needs, such as temporary individual academic support or a place for kids to hang out if they couldn't participate in a class activity for some reason. Usually, however, it was where kids with behavioral issues were sent.

My experience there has been enlightening as I observe the Resist movement (and Obama's behavior). They act just like our grade-schoolers with crummy life skills. The kids ALL came from broken homes and were actively taught by their parent that if they were ever grumpy or unhappy about anything, it was someone else's fault, and someone else should be treated abusively and made to PAY.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:06 PM (4HMW8)

117 >>>I also thought the post on why random people must be punished was quite meaty. Does blocking roads get people to "care"? How about deliberately blocking the paths of ambulances and giving paramedics the finger?

The point is not to get people to care. It's to let them know who's in charge. It's totalitarianism 101.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 14, 2018 12:06 PM (/qEW2)

118 I use the self-checkout line at the supermarket. As mentioned above, I can bag my groceries the way I want, and I don't get stuck behind someone happily chatting away with the cashier while I stand there with my two items.

The store is on my way home from work, so I'll stop in several times a week to pick up a few things here and a few things there. I find it convenient to shop that way.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 12:07 PM (sdi6R)

119 I may renew my Amazon Prime next month (~$115), just because it is so simple, has some limited movies, iirc 5% back credit card ...

But I look for other options and better deals. Ebay often has much better prices, especially if direct from China (or from one of their US distribution centers). It may take longer, and returns less certain, but savings can be 35% or much more. Most tech Amazon/WalMart sell is from China anyway, with a huge markup. Why reward the corporate giant middlemen?

I still favor the tariffs and rebuilding America, but that is up to government. I'll buy American when I find it.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 14, 2018 12:07 PM (bT8Z4)

120 And Miley...no I don't feel the least bit of remorse for divorcing my mother.

Because reasons.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 12:07 PM (m/IZ9)

121 aww man
didn't win mega millions jackpot
on the bright side, neither did anyone else

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 12:08 PM (hMwEB)

122 Speaking of work, need to go and get ready for it. Yay. At least got tomorrow off. So get a chance to rest.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 12:08 PM (jtew9)

123 I'll say this for Queen Elizabeth, she gets around better than Hillary.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:08 PM (4HMW8)

124 My store has two self-checkout areas, the grocery side one will be slammed full with lines of people waiting; walk over to the other area and hardly anyone there so done in a few minutes.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 12:04 PM (jtew9)

I see that all the time. Makes me snicker and I am often the only one in a bank of six registers. All because most of the customers enter the store on the "busy" side and stay on that side. I'll see idling cashiers sometimes as well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 14, 2018 12:08 PM (EhZNT)

125 In a matriarchy, all companies specializing in credit card transactions would be forced to provide their services for free. We just need to elect someone like Elizabeth Warren and she'll enact the law via executive order. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 14, 2018 12:10 PM (/qEW2)

126 "Tesla's losses increased by 97.5 per cent to just under $785 million in the first quarter of 2018 . . ."

They'll make it up in volume.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:10 PM (+y/Ru)

127 Got a B-24 and a B-17 in the area, flying folks around for a hefty price. think I saw a B-25 as well, but haven't confirmed the sighting yet.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 14, 2018 12:10 PM (EhZNT)

128 The point is not to get people to care. It's to let them know who's in charge. It's totalitarianism 101.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 14, 2018 12:06 PM (/qEW2)


Yep; you nailed it, Steve and Cold Bear.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:10 PM (4HMW8)

129 You may have said elsewhere, and if so I missed it. Do you know his diagnosis? What's causing this?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

The CT scan showed some dark spots that could have been ministrokes, but the MRI showed nothing, and the neurologist hasn't come up with a physical cause. I think he could have snapped from the strain of dealing with Mom.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 12:12 PM (txw6d)

130 I did notice in a video clip how Trump was briefly walking ahead of the Queen at one point. My first thought was, "Uh oh, that's not kosher"...

My immediate second thought was, "Oh who gives a f*ck, screw that screwed up country and their decrepit old monarchy as well. The Queen herself is more or less OK, but the rest of her stupid family and the whole nasty concept of The Crown has completely outlived their usefulness.

So go ahead, Donnie. Walk first. Offend them. You have my blessing. Because we're better than they are.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:14 PM (BRvh1)

131 That video of the Queen (who really does seem like a nice little old lady) reminds me of virtually every wedding I've ever attended, where there's a grandmother who is given a place of honor in the wedding procession.

Nobody really knows how fast to walk in the first place, and sometimes grandma goes the wrong way. No matter what you do, it's going to look bad, because she's tottering around behind you, or whatever, and you're trying to be all suave and cool and collected.

Trump is like the rest of us. He's American, and is trying to be respectful, but grandma sometimes zigs when she's supposed to zag, and ultimately, she ain't my Queen, so shut up already, internet.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:15 PM (cY3LT)

132 Remember when you guys got all hysterical when Michelle Obama briefly touched the Queen's back? Well, any reaction to this?

Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

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So you're admitting it was a big deal that Michael hugged the queen?

Because you realize that's your point, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 12:16 PM (YPqbH)

133 Is this today's thing, the inspection (whatevs) and Trump 'eclipsed' the queen?
Well, heaven forfend!1!11!!

Posted by: micky at July 14, 2018 12:16 PM (dF9Lb)

134 Deference is not Trump's strong suit.

That's okay; he's exactly what we need right now.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:16 PM (4HMW8)

135
A place with a $4,000 a month coffee bill is a wonderland to me
Posted by: Skip

Skip, my firm pays for coffee for us in the little kitchenettes. The building I work in has over 50 of them, yeah, fifty. That's not even counting the two Starbucks places - within the building itself. It's over 2 million sq feet of usable office space.

The bill for the freebies has to be astronomical.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2018 12:16 PM (9rIkM)

136 Got a B-24 and a B-17 in the area, flying folks around for a hefty price. think I saw a B-25 as well, but haven't confirmed the sighting yet.

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Why pay for a ride? Buy your own warbird.

http://www.platinumfighters.com/warbirds

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:16 PM (+y/Ru)

137
I use the self-checkout line at the supermarket. As mentioned above, I
can bag my groceries the way I want, and I don't get stuck behind
someone happily chatting away with the cashier while I stand there with
my two items.


Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 12:07 PM (sdi6R)

I need human contact, too!

Posted by: your cashier at July 14, 2018 12:17 PM (txw6d)

138 You may have said elsewhere, and if so I missed it. Do you know his diagnosis? What's causing this?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (cY3LT)

The CT scan showed some dark spots that could have been ministrokes, but the MRI showed nothing, and the neurologist hasn't come up with a physical cause. I think he could have snapped from the strain of dealing with Mom.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 14, 2018 12:12 PM (txw6d)


How old is he, and has he had any mental illness in his past?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)

139 And Miley...no I don't feel the least bit of remorse for divorcing my mother.

Because reasons.


Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 12:07 PM (m/IZ9)

Reasons. Yes.

Posted by: your cashier at July 14, 2018 12:18 PM (txw6d)

140 Miley, is it a kind of amnesia, forgetting the past X years, but he is remembering things ok day to day?

Or is he looking in the mirror and seeing a guy X years younger?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 12:18 PM (hMwEB)

141 Yes, I've been to a "wonderland" recently: Austin, TX. "Keep Austin weird" indeed.

The funny part is that they think that they need to remind people. Does Phoenix have t-shirts and bumper stickers saying "Keep Phoenix Hot?"

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 14, 2018 12:18 PM (9rgbi)

142 I need human contact, too!
Posted by: your cashier at July 14, 2018 12:17 PM (txw6d)


Heh. I'm an introvert (like most Horde members) and have worked as a grocery checker. It would tire me out socially seeing new faces all day long. It was always a special treat for me to see a regular customer come through my line.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:19 PM (4HMW8)

143 I feel like Trump wanted to offer the Queen his arm but knew it was a no-no.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 12:20 PM (hMwEB)

144 Keep Austin Weird far, far away from me, please.

Posted by: Warai-otoko's Tourism Board Slogan Agency is not doing well these days.... at July 14, 2018 12:20 PM (BRvh1)

145 I want a Corsair. Watched Baa-Baa Black Sheep (original name) religiously as a kid, and was obsessed with that bird. Drew pictures on the back of my homework in dogfights, shooting down Zeros by the truckload. Pew-pew-pew!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 14, 2018 12:20 PM (EhZNT)

146 I find it interesting that merchants have minimum purchases for credit card transactions, when a number of things are at play: 1. Credit card users spend more and thus offset the transaction fee. 2. It is not hard to find a merchant service provider such as Square that doesn't charge any sort of transaction fee, therefore it doesn't matter how much the transaction amount is, it is just a straight percentage fee. 3. If you can't make a profit after selling a bottle of water for a dollar and paying 3 cents to the merchant service, you don't deserve to be in business.
Posted by: Denver at July 14, 2018 11:30 AM (u/aKl)

I think it largely has to do with making some show of not pissing off other customers when some nitwit pulls out a credit car to buy a dollar bottle of pop. There's a time factor involved. Every sensible person should carry a few dollars in change or small bills for such things.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:21 PM (bNb8V)

147 What the heck is a butterfly house?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 11:31 AM (IqV8l)

Day shift at the Moth Mansion?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:22 PM (bNb8V)

148 118 I use the self-checkout line at the supermarket. As mentioned above, I can bag my groceries the way I want, and I don't get stuck behind someone happily chatting away with the cashier while I stand there with my two items.

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Ahh. Grocery bags. I remember them.

*gazes wistfully into the middle distance*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 14, 2018 12:22 PM (EEedv)

149
Due to matriarchy we require you to spend more than $5.00 you cheap bastard.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 12:22 PM (10vO4)

150 I'll say this for Queen Elizabeth, she gets around better than Hillary.

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Yeah? Well, Hillary can drink her under the table.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:23 PM (+y/Ru)

151 Keep Houston Humid

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (IqV8l)

152 Heh. I'm an introvert (like most Horde members) and have worked as a grocery checker. It would tire me out socially seeing new faces all day long. It was always a special treat for me to see a regular customer come through my line.
Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:19 PM (4HMW


I'm the guy who tries to say something genuine, not creepy think I'm being cute and clever something, just try to make a connection. Person to person.

Most people in customer service roles seem to appreciate it, and sometimes, the person seems to shellshocked or whatever, from dealing with customers all day, that they seem incapable of responding with any sort of humanity.

I don't take it personally, it just saddens me. And knowing what I know, that's partly from understanding.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (cY3LT)

153 /off cashier sock

How old is he, and has he had any mental illness in his past?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)

He'll be 58 next month. No mental illness other than being withdrawn and friendless and intimidating. He was a sergeant in the Army and really internalized that sternness.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (txw6d)

154 Baa-Baa Black Sheep do you have any .50 cal? Yes sir yes sir 9 yards full.

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (2YOIh)

155 The guy at Concordia struck me as kind of beta. If the SJW spoke out of turn, he should have just refuted him, without raising his hand and trying to get the cowardly teacher's attention. They've thrown decorum out the window, they should be made to feel the price of doing that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (/qEW2)

156 Denver, Square charges per transaction plus a percentage of the amount.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (4HMW8)

157 I think it largely has to do with making some show of not pissing off other customers when some nitwit pulls out a credit car to buy a dollar bottle of pop. There's a time factor involved. Every sensible person should carry a few dollars in change or small bills for such things.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:21 PM (bNb8V)

Well, I'm not keen on having to hit the ATM when my wallet's tapped out and getting socked with a $2 fee or more over a bottle of soda (hehehe, sorry couldn't help it), so i'm going to swipe my card or put it in the little slot thingy, and whoever's behind be can just feckin well wait for it to beep.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (BRvh1)

158 Hah! Yes, same here. I have all the supplies already, I am even willing to buy her a uniform. Oh yes I am.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

I'm tolerant. If the maid wants to work naked, far be it from me to stop her. (as long as she's hawt)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (bNb8V)

159 As for myself, I don't take shit from butterfly house employees.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 14, 2018 12:25 PM (EEedv)

160 Miley,

All the prayers for you and your brother.

Posted by: SMH at July 14, 2018 12:25 PM (OIiAB)

161 Ahh. Grocery bags. I remember them.

*gazes wistfully into the middle distance*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 14, 2018 12:22 PM (EEedv)


People tell me the stores they go to, where they save a few pennies, and bag their own groceries.

I will gladly pay extra, and proudly announce "plastic" when asked which type of bag I want.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:26 PM (cY3LT)

162 Miley prayers up for your family situation. Perhaps the rehab facility has someone who could convince her that she needs to be in a facility? Or is that not an option financially?

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 14, 2018 12:26 PM (r4KP2)

163 BurtTC, I always make a point of being cheerful and appreciative to people in customer service. I remember how much that meant to me in those jobs.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:27 PM (4HMW8)

164 Weird. Most Concordias are Lutheran (named for the Book of Concord). This Canadian one seems to have Jesuit roots.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 14, 2018 12:27 PM (/qEW2)

165 Have you been to a place that seemed like a wonderland to you lately?

I live in California.

'Nuff said.

Most recent idiocy: the movement to ban styrofoam.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (js55S)

166 I want a Corsair. Watched Baa-Baa Black Sheep (original name) religiously as a kid, and was obsessed with that bird. Drew pictures on the back of my homework in dogfights, shooting down Zeros by the truckload. Pew-pew-pew!

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I once met the real life Pappy Boyington at an air show.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)

167 Sure they have given everyone a raise. But now they are going to lean manning where each department gets fewer hours than it used to, some departments the number of worker hours per week has been slashed by over 50%.

To compensate while dolling it up to sound nice, each worker no longer can specify times they can't work. Well they can but as one guy in my store is seeing with the new scheduling program, he only gets 4.5 hours a week.

Speaking of the new scheduling program, it now makes most sales floor associates only work a 1pm to 10pm shift.

Also whereas I used to be anomaly in the store able to work five different departments, because of the lean manning everyone is being forced to learn other departments or they won't see as many hours.

So yeah, there are reasons why there is grumpiness.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 14, 2018 11:42 AM (jtew9)

Anna, it sounds like Wally World is on a trajectory make their employees ready to sign up for a union. I hope you have feelers out for other employment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:30 PM (bNb8V)

168 Miley, is it a kind of amnesia, forgetting the past X years, but he is remembering things ok day to day?



Or is he looking in the mirror and seeing a guy X years younger?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 12:18 PM (hMwEB)

He knows it's 2018, and he recognizes us. So it's a weird blend.
If he were to look into the mirror, he would see the sunken and ravaged face of a cancer survivor with no teeth.
In a way, I'm relieved that he's in care and cut off from beer and cigarettes, which are the only good things in his life.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:30 PM (txw6d)

169 Most recent idiocy: the movement to ban styrofoam.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara,


Too many people making DIY Napalm?

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:30 PM (2YOIh)

170 Always loved Corsairs more than Mustangs because of that show.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 12:31 PM (pHfeF)

171 I live in California.

'Nuff said.

Most recent idiocy: the movement to ban styrofoam.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (js55S)

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Pretty sure the hipsters will still be cool with styrofoam as long as it is encased in plastic, and has a wierd label name on it....like.....I don't know....."Yeti".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 12:31 PM (oXwsm)

172 Well, I'd better sign off for awhile. My husband's at work and I haven't done a thing today to earn my keep except make his breakfast.

Have a great weekend, beloved Horde!

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:32 PM (4HMW8)

173 How old is he, and has he had any mental illness in his past?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)

He'll be 58 next month. No mental illness other than being withdrawn and friendless and intimidating. He was a sergeant in the Army and really internalized that sternness.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (txw6d)


58 is certainly not too young for this to be organic, and yes, the MRI is not going to be able to tell you whether it is or not.

If this seems like a sudden break for him, it might be something from which he can recover, but 58 is not usually when people start to suffer mental breakdowns for the first time. Unless it's organic.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:32 PM (cY3LT)

174 Build your own air force ... this guys flies over me at times, with afterburners I think, an occasional sonic boom.

https://www.wired.com/2005/10/kirlin/

$300K to own a jet that can go near the speed of sound. (Czech L-39)

Posted by: illiniwek at July 14, 2018 12:32 PM (bT8Z4)

175 From the link: "I understand that Dr Michael Kimmel is accomplished in the non-scientific field of sociology"

I've long wanted to go back to college, major in sociology, flunk out, then re-enroll and do a physics degree,* just to be the first person in human history who couldn't cut it in sociology and then graduated with honors in physics.


"which I'd actually like to do anyway

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:33 PM (js55S)

176 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (YPqbH)

And don't dare be the first employee to stop clapping after he gives a speech.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:34 PM (bNb8V)

177 I once met the real life Pappy Boyington at an air show.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (+y/Ru

Very cool.

Saw Jimmy Doolittle up close as a kid, but did not meet him. He was grand marshal in our town's Independence Day parade. Dad was more stoked to see him than he was for John Wayne the year before.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 14, 2018 12:34 PM (EhZNT)

178 Hah! Yes, same here. I have all the supplies already, I am even willing to buy her a uniform. Oh yes I am.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

I'm tolerant. If the maid wants to work naked, far be it from me to stop her. (as long as she's hawt)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (bNb8V)


Well yeah. If it's my house, that makes me the hiring manager. So she's gonna be hawt.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:34 PM (cY3LT)

179 Chatter Mounts South Carolina Democrat Jim Clyburn May Run For House Speaker

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A worthy successor to Nazi Palsi I'd say.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

180 Miley prayers up for your family situation.
Perhaps the rehab facility has someone who could convince her that she
needs to be in a facility? Or is that not an option financially?

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at July 14, 2018 12:26 PM (r4KP2)

She's blown through 100K at least, maybe more. Everything my Dad left, and then took out a line of credit. She's a mulish 4-year-old.

She'll end up in a less than luxurious place, on the taxpayer's dime. None of us have any resources to provide. Right now they're saying they won't release her to us unless we can commit to 24/7 care. And we can't.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:35 PM (txw6d)

181
I once met the real life Pappy Boyington at an air show.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)


Yeah I met him at the Point Mugu Airshow. He was hitiing the airshow circut hard when Baa Baa Black Sheep was on TV.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 12:35 PM (10vO4)

182 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 12:18 PM (hMwEB)

He knows it's 2018, and he recognizes us. So it's a weird blend.
If he were to look into the mirror, he would see the sunken and ravaged face of a cancer survivor with no teeth.
In a way, I'm relieved that he's in care and cut off from beer and cigarettes, which are the only good things in his life.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:30 PM (txw6d)


Ah, so there's alcohol involved. That might be the culprit.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:36 PM (cY3LT)

183
Blocking a road signals a desire for an immediate career change to that of a speed bump.

Or it should, at least.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 14, 2018 12:36 PM (S/hVx)

184 20 One gets the feeling that this is not the first time behind bars for these women:

https://tinyurl.com/y8ljwzhw
Posted by: pookysgirl at July 14, 2018 11:29 AM (XKZwp)

Authorities identified the four women as Demetrius Boyd, Keterah Boyd, Lakisha Boyd and Lashondra Boyd.

I'm guessing, no.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:36 PM (js55S)

185 He was a sergeant in the Army and really internalized that sternness.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:24 PM (txw6d)

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Nope...doesn't sound familiar at all.

Posted by: SMH at July 14, 2018 12:36 PM (OIiAB)

186 Going go attempt more yard work.
A jet would be cool but they are a lot of work maintenance wise.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 12:37 PM (pHfeF)

187 Not only was Trump never accused of racism in his long- career run-up to becoming president, he was, so it's been reported name-checked (favorably) in something like 100 rap songs between the 1980's and 2015.

Then I guess he decided to become a white-supremacist.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 12:37 PM (y8Foj)

188 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (YPqbH)

And don't dare be the first employee to stop clapping after he gives a speech.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:34 PM (bNb8V)


When he invites you into his office to dance with your fellow employees, for his amusement. You dance.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:38 PM (cY3LT)

189 I thought for sure that "patriarchy" sign was a joke. But no, the hateful left is serious.

Posted by: Chris M at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (6XZdO)

190 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early. ---


I get there need to be rules. But I used to work much harder for the boss that kicked us loose early on Fridays (randomly). Than I did for the later one who watched the clock.

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (2YOIh)

191 Who are you, Open Blogger?

Posted by: m at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (CwOPz)

192 The thing that bugs me about the outcry over Trump breaching protocol with the Queen, is that most of the noise is coming from the very same people who would--if they could--abolish the monarchy and slaughter the Royal family just like the Bolsheviks who killed the Queen's cousin, Tsar Nicholas and his family.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 12:40 PM (y8Foj)

193 171 I live in California.

'Nuff said.

Most recent idiocy: the movement to ban styrofoam.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (js55S)

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Pretty sure the hipsters will still be cool with styrofoam as long as it is encased in plastic, and has a wierd label name on it....like.....I don't know....."Yeti".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 12:31 PM (oXwsm)


Tell them that styrofoam is organic.

Which, of course, it is. Just not in the sense they usually misuse the word.

We had take-out last night, and so after dinner I showed my family what happens to styrofoam when moistened with acetone. It's amazing how little styrofoam there actually is in a styrofoam container. Which is not surprising, when you consider the whole point of a foam is trap air.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:40 PM (js55S)

194 Nope...doesn't sound familiar at all.

Posted by: SMH at July 14, 2018 12:36 PM (OIiAB)

I know there were things that happened in the Army. He was in Special Forces, inn Central America. He doesn't talk about that stuff.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 12:40 PM (txw6d)

195 Remember when you guys got all hysterical when Michelle Obama briefly touched the Queen's back? Well, any reaction to this?
Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

Any reaction to what, Sport?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 12:41 PM (bNb8V)

196 Demetrius?

Seriously?

I mean, if your parents wanna make up names, go ahead, I don't care, do you, whatever...

But that's a dude's name.

All people of Earth, across all languages, have always recognized that Demetrius is a dude's name.

It even ends in a masculine 2nd declension ending (-us) for the love of Pete (which is also a dude's name, by the way.)

Demeter is the woman's form of the name. You know, the goddess? You took a male derivation of a name that was already a freaking Goddess, and used it to name your daughter.

*rolling up newspaper*

Stop it.

*bop*

Seriously. Stop it.

*bop bop*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:41 PM (BRvh1)

197 Posted by: pookysgirl at July 14, 2018 11:29 AM (XKZwp)

Authorities identified the four women as Demetrius Boyd, Keterah Boyd, Lakisha Boyd and Lashondra Boyd.

I'm guessing, no.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:36 PM (js55S)


I had a young woman recently tell me, when she had her kids, she gave them names, so when they grow up and are looking for work, people won't know their ethnicity.

The way she said it, and she was speaking from experience, I thought... Good for you! You understand this is not about walking around with a chip on your shoulder, trying to hold onto some phony notion of pride. Give your sons a fighting chance, to survive and thrive, on their own merits. The way all of us must.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:42 PM (cY3LT)

198 169 Most recent idiocy: the movement to ban styrofoam.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara,


Too many people making DIY Napalm?
Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:30 PM (2YOIh)


At the demonstration above concerning acetone and styrofoam the younger Guevara asked, "Dad, how do you make napalm?"

I thought it best not to explain. Just in case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:42 PM (js55S)

199 Have you been to a place that seemed like a wonderland to you lately?

Right here at AoSHQ.

I wonder if this will get willowed.

I wonder if there will be a flame war today.

I wonder if that commenter is a troll or newbie.

I wonder where that link really goes.

I wonder if my cell IP will be blocked today.

I wonder whether I want to search out what that word means.

It's a wonderful blog.

Posted by: mindful webworker - still wondering what's up at July 14, 2018 12:42 PM (U/u2R)

200 166
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)

Yeah man. Nothing scared Japanese pilots more than the Corsair.

Posted by: Al Crapton at July 14, 2018 12:43 PM (iOOm2)

201 Tell them that styrofoam is organic.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:40 PM (js55S)


"Oh, you use styrofoam? That's... yeah, that must be nice. For you. Me? Oh just aerographene. You've probably never heard of it."

Posted by: hogmartin at July 14, 2018 12:44 PM (y87Qq)

202 The way she said it, and she was speaking from experience, I thought... Good for you! You understand this is not about walking around with a chip on your shoulder, trying to hold onto some phony notion of pride. Give your sons a fighting chance, to survive and thrive, on their own merits. The way all of us must.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:42 PM (cY3LT)


Notice how the given name "Adolf" suddenly fell out of fashion in mid-century.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:44 PM (js55S)

203 He saw a whole lot more crap than I did, to be sure.

Thank him for his service and sacrifice from those of us on this smart military blog.

Thanks for providing his name. Will make it easier to submit a prayer request for him at church tomorrow.

In the meantime, will pray for him and you unceasingly.

Posted by: SMH at July 14, 2018 12:44 PM (OIiAB)

204 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early. ---


I get there need to be rules. But I used to work much harder for the boss that kicked us loose early on Fridays (randomly). Than I did for the later one who watched the clock.
Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (2YOIh)


That's the thing though, if the rule says you have to be there at 8, and this clown is telling people who don't get there by 7:50 that they're going to be fired, then the rule isn't 8! It's 7:50!!

Stupid b.s. mind games.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:45 PM (cY3LT)

205 I wish God would show one shred of pity on me and just kill me with a meteor. More car troubles, $475. Spoiler alert: I don't have $475

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2018 12:45 PM (l9m7l)

206 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at July 14, 2018 11:46 AM (YPqbH)


You want to get in early so you don't miss the bankruptcy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:46 PM (js55S)

207 >>>191 Who are you, Open Blogger?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (CwOPz)

Oh, duh, I see: it's KT.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2018 12:46 PM (CwOPz)

208 I hope President Trump called the queen "toots" or "hot mama" while squeezing her bum.

You know she wants The Donald bad, she gets all moist I bet.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 12:46 PM (EoRCO)

209 196 Demetrius?

Seriously?

I mean, if your parents wanna make up names, go ahead, I don't care, do you, whatever...

But that's a dude's name.

All people of Earth, across all languages, have always recognized that Demetrius is a dude's name.

It even ends in a masculine 2nd declension ending (-us) for the love of Pete (which is also a dude's name, by the way.)

Demeter is the woman's form of the name. You know, the goddess? You took a male derivation of a name that was already a freaking Goddess, and used it to name your daughter.

*rolling up newspaper*

Stop it.

*bop*

Seriously. Stop it.

*bop bop*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:41 PM (BRvh1)


Thank you. I debated ranting about that too.

Ghetto scholarship. You can't beat it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:47 PM (js55S)

210 England's team of millionaire pop star fake gangster divas sucks ass again... the most consistently overrated team, in any sport, on the planet.

Posted by: Al Crapton at July 14, 2018 12:47 PM (iOOm2)

211 I wish God would show one shred of pity on me and just kill me with a meteor. More car troubles, $475. Spoiler alert: I don't have $475
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2018 12:45 PM (l9m7l)

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Very sorry man. What is the issue?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 12:47 PM (oXwsm)

212 Notice how the given name "Adolf" suddenly fell out of fashion in mid-century.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:44 PM (js55S)


Interestingly, I had a fraternity brother whose middle name is Adolf. I can't remember if he was a Jr. or IIIrd, but it was one of the two. I do recall that his grandfather was a German immigrant.

Posted by: Bert G at July 14, 2018 12:48 PM (yzxic)

213
Remember when you guys got all hysterical when Michelle Obama briefly touched the Queen's back? Well, any reaction to this? Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

I just let off a little gas but I can't be certain that it's related to what you're talking about, because nobody knows what you're talking about.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 12:48 PM (10vO4)

214 Stupid b.s. mind games.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:45 PM (cY3LT)


Employing an army of engineers and punishing them for performing within spec just seems like a bad idea to me. So, I will never be promoted to manager, I guess.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 14, 2018 12:48 PM (y87Qq)

215

Our Dad instilled a work ethic into my brother and I part of which was you shut up and work.
Plus you're there on time and working late doesn't get bitched about.
You do the very best you know how and I believe the one thing that was SO valuable in my working life was when the day is through, the job stays AT WORK.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 14, 2018 12:48 PM (S/hVx)

216 One of my friends, his daughter's name is... Gregory. I just cannot wrap my head around that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:48 PM (39g3+)

217 I will gladly pay extra, and proudly announce "plastic" when asked which type of bag I want.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:26 PM (cY3LT)


Say "both," and ask them to double-bag paper AND plastic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:49 PM (js55S)

218 I wish God would show one shred of pity on me and just kill me with a meteor. More car troubles, $475. Spoiler alert: I don't have $475
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2018 12:45 PM (l9m7l)


Does your car really need a spoiler?

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:50 PM (2YOIh)

219 as far as I know Trump didn't touch the queen.

Posted by: willow at July 14, 2018 12:50 PM (dPd5y)

220 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:48 PM (39g3+)

Hey, get a load of this Christopher chick makin' fun of people's names with us!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:50 PM (BRvh1)

221 >>>106 Remember when you guys got all hysterical when Michelle Obama briefly touched the Queen's back? Well, any reaction to this?
Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

Link?

Posted by: m at July 14, 2018 12:51 PM (CwOPz)

222 221 >>>106 Remember when you guys got all hysterical when Michelle Obama briefly touched the Queen's back? Well, any reaction to this?
Posted by: Bitter Scribe at July 14, 2018 12:02 PM (oGEj3)

Link?
Posted by: m at July 14, 2018 12:51 PM (CwOPz)

Or, maybe the BS nick is a giveaway here.

Posted by: m at July 14, 2018 12:51 PM (CwOPz)

223 I don't know if Trump touched Queenie or not, but what I really want to know is if he was shaking hands with the bishop!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:52 PM (BRvh1)

224 I hope President Trump called the queen "toots" or "hot mama" while squeezing her bum.

You know she wants The Donald bad, she gets all moist I bet.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 12:46 PM (EoRCO)



I don't think it's in any way her fault that her country has gone to hell.

I'm going to be respectful to her, because she's an elderly woman, with grace and dignity.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (cY3LT)

225 125 In a matriarchy, all companies specializing in credit card transactions would be forced to provide their services for free. We just need to elect someone like Elizabeth Warren and she'll enact the law via executive order. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 14, 2018 12:10 PM (/qEW2)


Her platform? "Free shoes! Ban parallel parking!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (js55S)

226 190 Just saw that Elon Musk thoughtfully and considerately implemented an attendance policy that will fire your ass if you don't clock in early. ---


I get there need to be rules. But I used to work much harder for the boss that kicked us loose early on Fridays (randomly). Than I did for the later one who watched the clock.
Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (2YOIh)


It's one of the reasons I've stayed with the job that I've been doing for close to 30 years. As long as I show up within an hour either early or late, they consider me on time. It is a nice.

Posted by: Stormy D at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (Fs5vw)

227 Telegraph complaining that President Trump "forgot" to bow to the queen.

Yeah, we gave up doing that in 1776, guys.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (39g3+)

228 205 I wish God would show one shred of pity on me and just kill me with a meteor. More car troubles, $475. Spoiler alert: I don't have $475
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 14, 2018 12:45 PM (l9m7l)


BC, do you have a church family? Seriously. In a healthy church, everyone pitches in when a member is going through tough times.

Posted by: Emmie at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (4HMW8)

229 I don't think Her Majesty was much offended. I saw pic of her between Melania and PDJT and I swear she was sidling up to him.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 12:55 PM (m/IZ9)

230 Off old skank sock

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 12:55 PM (Fs5vw)

231 Speaking of Latin, I learned something freaky about it the other day. Of course, the subject and predicate of a sentence must agree as to number. He goes but they go. Similarly, Abe goes but Abe and Ben go. That's all well and good and works the same way in Latin. At least it does when you are talking about people. But when you are talking about things, the predicate must agree with the last item in a series so a hammer and nails are in the drawer but nails and a hammer is in the drawer. (I don't know if animals are more like people or more like things.) Despite what one might think from studying Latin, the purpose of grammar is not merely to be difficult but to allow clear and concise communication. Damned if I can figure out the purpose for that rule, though.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)

232 42 That feminist bookshop, that was up in Portland? Or just in the generic area Upper West Coast Fruitloop Section of the US, to be safe.

Irregardlessly, in the sidebar you have those Portland protestors getting pepper-balled (ooooo, a macho term there) and arrested. The sound track is entertaining too, as the womyns scream Fuck You continuously, and one in particular shouts "is this how you treat women???" I thought you had ask a person about their preferred gender first and not make assumptions? The new rules, hard to follow they are.

In summary, they want to vagina-bang you while at the same time they want feminine privilege.

While, of, course, being treated as full equals.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 14, 2018 11:37 AM (0ogQG)



"Here's a clue: it's not how I treat LADIES."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (js55S)

233 When Queen Elizabeth was an Army truck mechanic, did she have to say it like "one requested the other hex-end spanner, asshole"? She hadn't been coronated yet. I don't know the rules for that kind of thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (y87Qq)

234 Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 12:39 PM (2YOIh)


It's one of the reasons I've stayed with the job that I've been doing for close to 30 years. As long as I show up within an hour either early or late, they consider me on time. It is a nice.
Posted by: Stormy D at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (Fs5vw)


It's been almost 30 years since I worked at a job where I had to clock in.

I can't imagine doing so at this point in my life.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (cY3LT)

235
don't know if Trump touched Queenie or not, but what I really want to know is if he was shaking hands with the bishop!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 12:52 PM (BRvh1)


I picture him pulling an Al Czervik and telling the Queen he'd like to turn this old dump ( Windsor Castle ) into a golf course.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 12:57 PM (10vO4)

236 Ugh, Hillbot. Wonder if she's gonna grow those grey sides into full lamb chops.
Why is Hillary...? Mostly about her opinions and tall tales and so forth. /rhet
See ya on the pet thread.

Posted by: micky at July 14, 2018 12:57 PM (dF9Lb)

237 227 Telegraph complaining that President Trump "forgot" to bow to the queen.

Yeah, we gave up doing that in 1776, guys.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (39g3+)


Did she bow to him?

No? Then honors are even.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 12:57 PM (js55S)

238 NGU around today? I see that the Navy has a new addition to his group of colleagues: https://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=80548

Posted by: Bert G at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (yzxic)

239 229 I don't think Her Majesty was much offended. I saw pic of her between Melania and PDJT and I swear she was sidling up to him.
Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 12:55 PM (m/IZ9)

Women know intuitively (whether they want to admit it or not) who the strong man is.

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (Fs5vw)

240 The queen seems to actually like President Trump, she does not seem upset at all with him or uncomfortable. She clearly found President Obama distasteful and awkward.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (39g3+)

241 I don't think it's in any way her fault that her country has gone to hell.

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Well, she did give birth to Charles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (+y/Ru)

242 Demetrius is looking for a gladiator.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 12:59 PM (IqV8l)

243
Telegraph complaining that President Trump "forgot" to bow to the queen.


Obviously Trump is still holding a grudge about that burning down the White House thing.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:00 PM (10vO4)

244 saw a whole lot more crap than I did, to be sure.



Thank him for his service and sacrifice from those of us on this smart military blog.



Thanks for providing his name. Will make it easier to submit a prayer request for him at church tomorrow.



In the meantime, will pray for him and you unceasingly.

Posted by: SMH at July 14, 2018 12:44 PM (OIiAB)

Thank you so much, {{{SMH}}}.
I'm so happy for you!

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 14, 2018 01:00 PM (txw6d)

245 Soona, I'd hit it.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 01:01 PM (m/IZ9)

246 I think the thing with Elon Musk is that he's clearly a workaholic and just naturally assumes that everyone else is, too. I doubt I could work for him. I don't have that kind of energy.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:01 PM (sdi6R)

247 There is a butchery in Hartford, CT named Adolf's. The internet's best guess is that it started in 1932, which would be just before 1933.

It does seem odd that it's kept that name, what with the intervening history.

These days, given demographics, it's mix of German and Polish butchery.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:01 PM (fuK7c)

248 Anna, I have a wally world question - why do the workers usually seem either grim or grumpy? Is it bad management?
Or is it just my local Wally world?
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 14, 2018 11:29 AM (hMwEB)


Your local one. Employees at our local one go out of their way to be friendly and helpful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:02 PM (js55S)

249 I don't think it's in any way her fault that her country has gone to hell.

I'm going to be respectful to her, because she's an elderly woman, with grace and dignity.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (cY3LT)


Real reasons to respect Queen Elizabeth

Working in the motor pool.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/c4kjvjd

Shooting a machine gun

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y98xt87m

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 01:02 PM (2YOIh)

250 Elon Musk seems to think he's owed a lot, especially other people's money and time

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 01:02 PM (39g3+)

251 Bander, the meat tenderizer people seem to be fine with it.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 01:03 PM (m/IZ9)

252 NGU around today? I see that the Navy has a new addition to his group of colleagues: https://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=80548

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Cool story.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 01:03 PM (+y/Ru)

253 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)

latin's not by forte by any means, but I think the root of that is a holdover from spoken Latin before it became a more academic language. The spoken language of Bill the Ostian longshoreman in 500 B.C., long before the language was dandified by being used as a written, academic language.

The "correct" thing of course is to make the verb agree in number with the subject, but if the ultimate entry in the list is singular, it would have probably been natural in spoken usage to use the "wrong" thing (i.e. singular form) just because it sounded "more right" in juxtaposition.

Sort of like how certain things in everyday English are grammatically wrong, but we say them anyways because the right thing sounds fake, forced, or stupid.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)

254 Damned if I can figure out the purpose for that rule, though.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)


Sometimes the rule is just the rule. It is an arbitrarily agreed upon standard. So... the question is, whose standard?

Consider verb tenses: We shall hang him at high noon. He was hanged at high noon. We will hang the curtains at high noon. The curtains were... hanged(?) at high noon? NO! I believe the curtains were hung at high noon.

How does that make sense? Of course it doesn't.

So then we have bastardizations of English that come along. We say "Bring me the head of John the Baptist." Or we say "He brought me the head of John the Baptist."

Others might say "He brung me the head of John the Baptist."

(Poor John, how many heads does he have??)

Our ears "know" that brung is not right, but honestly, there's not any good damned reason why it isn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:04 PM (cY3LT)

255 Not sure why but once or twice a year History loves showing Clint Eastwood Westerns on Saturday.

Josey Wales has just begun.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 01:04 PM (e7oj4)

256 I think the thing with Elon Musk is that he's clearly a workaholic and just naturally assumes that everyone else is, too.
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:01 PM (sdi6R)


He needs to read some Fred Brooks. If someone wanders in at 11am and solves a problem that lets him reassign the team that had been wrestling with it for a month, would he punish the guy who got there on Ace time?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 14, 2018 01:04 PM (y87Qq)

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 01:05 PM (m/IZ9)

258 Ah, phooey. Sorry 'bout that dead air.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 01:06 PM (m/IZ9)

259 Bring me the wing of Chicken Alfredo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 01:06 PM (IqV8l)

260 240 The queen seems to actually like President Trump, she does not seem upset at all with him or uncomfortable. She clearly found President Obama distasteful and awkward.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (39g3+)


Trump has spent most of his adult life rubbing elbows with other VIPs. He knows how to behave around them.

It's funny how the media always said that Obama was repairing our relationships with other countries, while Trump is causing chaos and discord. The reality is exactly the opposite. Trump seems to get along fine with other world leaders, while they had barely-disguised contempt for Obama.

And let's not even get into Michelle vs. Melania.

It's gaslighting 24/7 with the media.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (sdi6R)

261 I don't think it's in any way her fault that her country has gone to hell.

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Well, she did give birth to Charles.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (+y/Ru)


And Chuck is more a symptom, not a cause.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (cY3LT)

262 Demetrius is looking for a gladiator.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 14, 2018 12:59 PM (IqV8l)

I doubt even Cannibal Bob would be glad...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (bNb8V)

263 I think the thing with Elon Musk is that he's clearly a workaholic and just naturally assumes that everyone else is, too. I doubt I could work for him. I don't have that kind of energy.
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:01 PM (sdi6R)

---------------

Yeah, he is reported to be like PDT, minimal sleep and working all the time. I worked vor a guy like that, but he was wise enough to realize that he was doing it as owner of the company, reaping most of the rewards of his efforts. Admittedly, he took the huge risk to start it.

Bottom line was he expected hard work from us, not the fanatical schedule he kept though.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (oXwsm)

264 Have noted before, a now-deceased older friend was an ordnance guy in the squadron in which Boyington was the XO, at Guadalcanal. He recalled several specific stories of Pappy that fit the reputation perfectly. Said he would run into him at events in LA after the war, and he was the same.


My favorite combat story was the time Pappy was jawing with English-speaking Japanese on the radio (I think guys in Rabaul), they were taunting Boyington, and he challenged them to meet him over the Admiralties (islands nearby). They said they would; he used hand signals to tell his section to follow him, they took high-altitude position over the Admiralties and then ambushed some Zeros when they arrived. (do not recall where I read this one)


Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (QDnY+)

265 The queen seems to actually like President Trump, she does not seem upset at all with him or uncomfortable. She clearly found President Obama distasteful and awkward.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 12:58 PM (39g3+)



Even after giving her an ipod of him blathering on?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 14, 2018 01:08 PM (SiINZ)

266 Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 12:54 PM (cY3LT)


Real reasons to respect Queen Elizabeth

Working in the motor pool.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/c4kjvjd

Shooting a machine gun

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y98xt87m
Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 01:02 PM (2YOIh)


Sure, but I'm going to be respectful to most women that age, whether they're a queen or somebody's granny.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:08 PM (cY3LT)

267 Sort of like how certain things in everyday English are grammatically wrong, but we say them anyways because the right thing sounds fake, forced, or stupid.


William Safire in his On Language columns had a character called Norma Loquendi (for the norms of common speech). I forget the antagonistic character, but he spent a lot of time on the tension between 'correct' grammar and what usage has developed.

And the classic is Churchill's take on the rule against ending a sentence with a preposition: "that is the sort of nonsense up with which I shall not put".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:08 PM (fuK7c)

268 I can just imagine a worker with Elon Musk doing the "flair" scene in Office Space about being on time at work:

ELON: I need to talk about your late arrival.

WORKER: Really? I arrive at 8 every morning (shows him) like the guidlines said.

ELON: Well, OK but that's the latest you can show up to work.

WORKER: Ok.

ELON: Now, it's up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum. Well, like Brian, for example, shows up at 7:50. And a terrific smile.

(Brian Smiles)

WORKER: Ok. Ok, you want me to show up earlier than on time?

ELON: Look, uh... whatever your name is.

WORKER: Cliff.

ELON: Whatever. People can buy overpriced gadgets anywhere, OK? They come to Tesla for the atmosphere and the cachet of our name. Its about attitude.

WORKER: OK, so show up before on time?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 01:09 PM (39g3+)

269 A lot of irregularities in modern English verbs are a direct result either of irregularities in the earlier Saxon/Englisc form of the verbs, or what would have been regular for a "weak" verb before the root form of the verb went through its various mutations into its modern form.

Grimm's Law/Vowel Shift sorta stuff factors in as well I think, but other Morons will be far more knowledgable about that stuff than I am.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:11 PM (BRvh1)

270 Demetrius?

Seriously?

I mean, if your parents wanna make up names, go ahead, I don't care, do you, whatever...

But that's a dude's name.

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It should've been Winston the Pooh.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 01:12 PM (+y/Ru)

271 I think the thing with Elon Musk is that he's clearly a workaholic and just naturally assumes that everyone else is, too. I doubt I could work for him. I don't have that kind of energy.
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:01 PM (sdi6R)

---------------

Yeah, he is reported to be like PDT, minimal sleep and working all the time. I worked vor a guy like that, but he was wise enough to realize that he was doing it as owner of the company, reaping most of the rewards of his efforts. Admittedly, he took the huge risk to start it.

Bottom line was he expected hard work from us, not the fanatical schedule he kept though.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (oXwsm)


I never believe the "he doesn't need much sleep" stories. About anybody. All humans need sleep. At minimum, I would say anyone regularly getting less than... say, 5 hours per 24 hour period, it's going to take its toll.

Eventually the person is going to run out of whatever steam they have.

So it's a thing of pride some people say. "I only sleep 2 hours a night, and work 23 hours a day!"

Bull.

You do not.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:12 PM (cY3LT)

272
At least Trump didn't give the Queen an ipod with nothing but his campaign speeches on it

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:13 PM (10vO4)

273 Re: Trump and Fargin' Royal Protocol. He was sending a non-subtle type message to the Queen.

The UK can no longer a world leader in anything, 'cept in-breeding. You follow us, or we will leave you behind.

Something like that. I've been wrong before.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 14, 2018 01:14 PM (RuIsu)

274 Sure, but I'm going to be respectful to most women that age, whether they're a queen or somebody's granny.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:08 PM (cY3LT)


As I hit the post button I realized "Real reasons" was a bad beginning to my post. Just wanted to point out the Queen has a bit of grit in her.

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 01:14 PM (2YOIh)

275 And the classic is Churchill's take on the rule against ending a sentence with a preposition: "that is the sort of nonsense up with which I shall not put".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:08 PM (fuK7c)

--LMAO, I love the scene in Cheers when Diana fantasizes about Sam with a pipe and wearing a smoking jacket and being urbane.

Dream Sam: "Did you just end that proposition with a preposition?"

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 01:14 PM (e7oj4)

276 WORKER: OK, so show up before on time?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 01:09 PM (39g3+)


Yep! Elon Musk is every shift manager at every crappy chain restaurant everywhere.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:15 PM (cY3LT)

277 At least Trump didn't give the Queen an ipod with nothing but his campaign speeches on it
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:13 PM (10vO4)

It might as well have been broken ipod from 2001, with a post-it note in sharpie stuck on it saying, "Google it, bitch".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:16 PM (BRvh1)

278 (257) What he said.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 14, 2018 01:17 PM (RuIsu)

279 I can't remember who it was, but wasn't there another "World Leader" visiting the White House who actually punched Trump on the shoulder during a press conference? Something chummy like that. It was very early on... Trying to picture it...

I just remember having the feeling like "Did I seriously just see that happen? It's like watching a couple of bros just bro-ing out...."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:19 PM (BRvh1)

280 At least Trump didn't give the Queen an ipod with nothing but his campaign speeches on it
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:13 PM (10vO4)


Walking behind the Queen after she received that "gift" you would have known when she passed a trash can by the loud "Clang!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:20 PM (js55S)

281
Re: Trump and Fargin' Royal Protocol. He was sending a non-subtle type message to the Queen.



The UK can no longer a world leader in anything, 'cept in-breeding. You follow us, or we will leave you behind.


Capiche

Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at July 14, 2018 01:20 PM (10vO4)

282 (sheepish grin)

Thanks for the endorsement, Burger Chef.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 01:20 PM (m/IZ9)

283 I can't sleep for more than 3-4 hours at a time, and I'm certainly not a workaholic.

So if my alarm is set for 7 am, theoretically I should go to bed at 11 pm to get my 8 hours in.

Except that doesn't work. I'll wake up at 3 and won't feel like going back to bed until 5 or 6. Then I sleep through the alarm and am late for work.

It's better if I go to sleep early, wake up at 1, then go back to bed around 3 or 4.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:21 PM (sdi6R)

284 Eventually the person is going to run out of whatever steam they have.

So it's a thing of pride some people say. "I only sleep 2 hours a night, and work 23 hours a day!"

Bull.

You do not.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:12 PM (cY3LT)


Stayed awake for a bit over 72 hours in an Army training exercise once. I found out what the "brink of insanity" really means.

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 01:23 PM (Fs5vw)

285 Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:21 PM (sdi6R)

Huh. If it works, it works, I guess.

My thing is inertia. If i'm up, I will stay up and have trouble falling asleep until i basically pass out from exhaustion.

Once i'm asleep, i stay asleep and it takes fifty alarms over half an hour to wake me up.

It sucks.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:23 PM (BRvh1)

286 A lot of irregularities in modern English verbs are a direct result either of irregularities in the earlier Saxon/Englisc form of the verbs, or what would have been regular for a "weak" verb before the root form of the verb went through its various mutations into its modern form.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:11 PM (BRvh1)


It's interesting that British English retains the strong forms of verbs (e.g., "lernt") where American English has regularized them to the weak forms ("learned").

The difference is probably being washed out by American TV and movies there, but is sometimes still encountered.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:23 PM (js55S)

287 I don't think Her Majesty was much offended. I saw pic of her between Melania and PDJT and I swear she was sidling up to him.
Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 12:55 PM (m/IZ9)

Yup....Her Majesty likes knocking boots just like everybody else.

Probably more I bet.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 01:24 PM (EoRCO)

288 Uh, oh. Data warning. Maybe It's time to give it a rest for a while. I'll read the Pet Thread on the PC, where the meter's not running.

Later all. creep out.

Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 14, 2018 01:25 PM (m/IZ9)

289 231---Damned if I can figure out the purpose for that rule, though.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)
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There is no such rule.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:25 PM (0jtPF)

290 It's funny how the media always said that Obama was repairing our relationships with other countries, while Trump is causing chaos and discord. The reality is exactly the opposite. Trump seems to get along fine with other world leaders, while they had barely-disguised contempt for Obama.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:07 PM (sdi6R)


This. Putin in particular obviously held Obama in contempt.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:25 PM (js55S)

291 I'm a big fan of taking afternoon naps on the weekend.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:26 PM (sdi6R)

292 Yup....Her Majesty likes knocking boots just like everybody else.

Probably more I bet.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 14, 2018 01:24 PM (EoRCO)

Could very well be non-sexual too...

Just a feeling of general ease and comfort at standing next to an actual, proud, powerful couple of human beings for once and not the usual parade of lickspittles, lackwits, flunkies, junkies, perverts, headchoppers and goatf*ckers.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:27 PM (BRvh1)

293 This. Putin in particular obviously held Obama in contempt.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:25 PM (js55S)

What is "shinebox" in SMR-talk?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:28 PM (BRvh1)

294
This. Putin in particular obviously held Obama in contempt.


Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:25 PM (js55S)


And the Russian media followed Putin's lead. I haven't seen any reports of the Russian media insulting Trump the way they did Obama.

Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at July 14, 2018 01:28 PM (10vO4)

295 I never believe the "he doesn't need much sleep" stories. About anybody. All humans need sleep. At minimum, I would say anyone regularly getting less than... say, 5 hours per 24 hour period, it's going to take its toll.

Yeah even the people who can get by on less have "catch up" times when they sleep more in a day. But some people are able to get by on 4 hours of sleep a day for a few in a row and not suffer much from it. On the other side, some need more sleep than 8 a day; I do better with 9-10 hours.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

296 latin's not by forte by any means,


Are we language geeking in this thread? There's another thread where they're gardening.

I don't get where "forte" comes from. People argue about whether it's pronounced fort or fortay.

The French word is fort, pronounced for or forhhh.

How did we get forte?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:29 PM (fuK7c)

297 My thing is inertia. If i'm up, I will stay up and have trouble falling asleep until i basically pass out from exhaustion.

Once i'm asleep, i stay asleep and it takes fifty alarms over half an hour to wake me up.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:23 PM (BRvh1)


I suspect it's to do with where you are in your sleep cycle.

I once flew from South Africa by way of London. The long north-south jog completely unhinged me from my own circadian cycle. On arrival my wife and I went to pick up our new puppy, who periodically cried for mom and his litter mates.

The cool thing was I could wake up like flipping a light switch on, get on the floor with him and he'd snuggle in with me and relax. Then later I'd get up, go back to bed, and just like flipping a light switch off I'd be out cold. An hour or two later, we'd do the whole thing again.

It was wonderful. I've always wished I could do that all the time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:30 PM (js55S)

298
Off legendary fictional mob boss sock

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:30 PM (10vO4)

299 How did we get forte?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:29 PM (fuK7c)


Italian musical direction, to play loudly, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:31 PM (js55S)

300 I never believe the "he doesn't need much sleep" stories. About anybody. All humans need sleep. At minimum, I would say anyone regularly getting less than... say, 5 hours per 24 hour period, it's going to take its toll.

Yeah even the people who can get by on less have "catch up" times when they sleep more in a day. But some people are able to get by on 4 hours of sleep a day for a few in a row and not suffer much from it. On the other side, some need more sleep than 8 a day; I do better with 9-10 hours.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 14, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)


Yes, insomnia (and other sleep disorders) are of course real, and they do have profound effects on people.

I just find it comical when we hear about this guy or that guy, who is somehow superhuman, in that he doesn't need sleep. Like us mere mortals do.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:32 PM (cY3LT)

301 (287) I think the Queen knows what time it is. Scolds never catch up, or on.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 14, 2018 01:32 PM (RuIsu)

302 Sleep is dictated by the going to part and the WTF do I HAVE TO DO TOMORROW part. I may not get enough some weeks bu I just deal.

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 01:33 PM (2YOIh)

303 How did we get forte?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:29 PM (fuK7c)

"Forte" with the accent (grave or accute? Who knows, who cares, it's froggish anyways) literally just means "strength". Pronounced just like "Fort" in English, but with the unvoiced uvular fricative Frenchie "r". The final "e" makes the "t" get pronounced, where it wouldn't in French "fort" (i don't even know if that's a word in French or not. Again, froggish, so whatevs).

English speakers started saying "For-tay" as a hypercorretion, thinking that anything with an accent mark on it gets the stressed pronunciation as a syllable in the word.

I could be wrong about that... but I think that's it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:33 PM (BRvh1)

304 Hey! Morons and Ettes!


That'll be $5 due to the Moronocracy.


How's about a joke?.....A Dirty Joke...


The white horse fell in the mud! Ha!!!

$10, please. The Moronocracy has a humor charge.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 14, 2018 01:34 PM (ZSkht)

305 This. Putin in particular obviously held Obama in contempt.


Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:25 PM (js55S)

And the Russian media followed Putin's lead. I haven't seen any reports of the Russian media insulting Trump the way they did Obama.
Posted by: Donnie Two Scoops at July 14, 2018 01:28 PM (10vO4)


The Chinese teed off on Obama also. They made his plane land on the far side of the runway and then he had to walk across to the airport proper. At the official photo op, they had him stand with the women, while the other world leaders all stood together. He was too stupid to realized that they were insulting him.

When Trump went to China, they rolled out the red carpet and he disembarked with great ceremony.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:34 PM (js55S)

306 How did we get forte?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:29 PM (fuK7c)

Italian musical direction, to play loudly, IIRC.



That one is definitely 'fortay'. Trivium, btw, Condolezza Rice's name comes from 'con dolcezza', with sweetness.

But people use 'forte' in the French sense of strength or specialty.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:36 PM (fuK7c)

307 Here ya go:

Barack Obama 'deliberately snubbed' by Chinese in chaotic arrival at G20

The US president was denied the usual red carpet welcome and forced to 'go out of the ass' of Air Force One, observers say

http://tinyurl.com/zdxm4nr (from The Guardian, no less)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:37 PM (js55S)

308 Sort of like how certain things in everyday English are grammatically wrong, but we say them anyways because the right thing sounds fake, forced, or stupid.
-----------------------------
Ironically, some of those "fake and forced" usages are themselves grammatically wrong.

But we no longer teach systematic grammar, so there's no way for people to UNDERSTAND usages.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:38 PM (0jtPF)

309 How did we get forte?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:29 PM (fuK7c)


From Senior Parafon Forte, the inventor of Geritol.


Posted by: naturalfake at July 14, 2018 01:39 PM (ZSkht)

310 But people use 'forte' in the French sense of strength or specialty.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:36 PM (fuK7c)


Yep. An ubiquitous solecism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:39 PM (js55S)

311 My boss has a cartoon in his office: A guy is walking into an empty office wearing a coat and boots, tracking snow everywhere. Through the windows you can see a howling blizzard outside.

The caption reads, "Where IS everybody?"

It's left unstated but obvious that it's the boss arriving on time, and he can't figure out why no one else did.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (sdi6R)

312 (i don't even know if that's a word in French or not. Again, froggish, so whatevs).

Yeah, no. I'm trying not to be dickish. I'm not good at that. (At not being dickish, I mean).

The froggish word is fort, no e, no accent grave or aigu. So it's pronounced forhhhhh. No T.

When we decided to hypercorrect we added an extra letter, which added an extra syllable, which added an extra fight about the correct way to pronounce a non-word.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (fuK7c)

313 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:37 PM (js55S)

Ha! I remember that shit happening and laughing mirthfully about it.

Of course it's sad to see "The Office" of the presidency disrespected like that, but hell, our dumbasses as Americans collectively shit all over it first by electing the asshole. Twice.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (BRvh1)

314 $10, please. The Moronocracy has a humor charge.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 14, 2018 01:34 PM (ZSkht)

What is the drink minimum?

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (2YOIh)

315 Next thing you know, Musk will insist on everyone wearing Tesla flair proudly--24 hours a day What a dink.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (r9UYA)

316
The Chinese teed off on Obama also. They made his plane land on the far side of the runway and then he had to walk across to the airport proper.



Plus the Chinese didnt have the airstairs positioned for some unexplained reason and he had to come down the access stairway in the ass end of AF1

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (10vO4)

317 Ironically, some of those "fake and forced" usages are themselves grammatically wrong.

But we no longer teach systematic grammar, so there's no way for people to UNDERSTAND usages.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:38 PM (0jtPF)


How many times have you heard people say things such as "He said to you and I ..."

Aaaaagh! Objective case, not nominative!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:41 PM (js55S)

318 while i believe we need sleep for optimum results, I am capable of using the sleepless time to my benefit , until i can't and garble ideas in all manner of less than lucid ways.

Its not being better in my opinion it's a suffering thing which one that Has the problem with insomnia tries to make it useful so they don't fret over the ordeal. and yes to Me it is an ordeal.

Posted by: willow at July 14, 2018 01:41 PM (dPd5y)

319 Plus the Chinese didnt have the airstairs positioned for some unexplained reason and he had to come down the access stairway in the ass end of AF1
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (10vO4)


Purely an oversight, I'm sure.

But knowing what Asians think about the bruthas ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:42 PM (js55S)

320 How's about a joke?.....A Dirty Joke...


The white horse fell in the mud! Ha!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at July 14, 2018 01:34 PM (


I don't get it.

Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 01:42 PM (Fs5vw)

321 Ha! I remember that shit happening and laughing mirthfully about it.

Of course it's sad to see "The Office" of the presidency disrespected like that, but hell, our dumbasses as Americans collectively shit all over it first by electing the asshole. Twice.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:40 PM (BRvh1)


While searching for the link I encountered accounts in, e.g., Newsweek that made it sound as though Obama was feted in China, whereas Trump was not.

Um, no.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:43 PM (js55S)

322 Heh, History is bringing back In Search Of.

And they're doubling down by having Zachary Quinto as the host.

I gotta watch at least the first episode.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 01:45 PM (e7oj4)

323 How's about a joke?.....A Dirty Joke...


The white horse fell in the mud! Ha!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at July 14, 2018 01:34 PM (


I don't get it.
Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 01:42 PM (Fs5vw)



Try this one:

Knock knock-
Who's there?
Who's on first?
I don't know!
THIRD BASE!!

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:47 PM (cY3LT)

324 "What rhymes with orange?"

"No it doesn't."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:49 PM (BRvh1)

325 Or this one:

Why did the golfer make a hole in one?


Because he was wearing two pairs of pants.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:49 PM (cY3LT)

326 IIRC, Obama did NOT bow to Queen Elizabeth.

Maybe I'm having a senile moment here but I recall being struck by the fact that he bowed deeply to the King of Saudi Arabia and practically prostrated himself before the Emperor of Japan but did NOT bow to Elizabeth, the Euro-monarch.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:49 PM (0jtPF)

327
I don't get it.


Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 01:42 PM (Fs5vw)



I don't get it either. Why does the horse have to be white? Wouldn't a Chestnut colored horse be just as dirty?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:50 PM (10vO4)

328 Heh, History is bringing back In Search Of.

And they're doubling down by having Zachary Quinto as the host.
---

No. WAY. Genius!

I loved how they always phrased it "Could it be that [X] was in fact [Y]?", with Y invariably being the less Occam-y, more paranormal, explanation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 01:50 PM (gUCYC)

329 So, the Chinese were really just yukkin' it up. I can appreciate that. Barry's ham fisted amateur syncophants wouldn't catch on anyway.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 14, 2018 01:51 PM (RuIsu)

330 It's still a dick move on the part of the Chinese, who are so quick to find offense themselves.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 01:52 PM (gUCYC)

331 326 IIRC, Obama did NOT bow to Queen Elizabeth.

Maybe I'm having a senile moment here but I recall being struck by the fact that he bowed deeply to the King of Saudi Arabia and practically prostrated himself before the Emperor of Japan but did NOT bow to Elizabeth, the Euro-monarch.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:49 PM (0jtPF)


Yep, that's how I remember it, too.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:53 PM (sdi6R)

332 The In Search of Bigfoot is a classic:

https://youtu.be/gQJAYVbslIE

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 01:53 PM (e7oj4)

333 I don't get it.


Posted by: Soona at July 14, 2018 01:42 PM (Fs5vw)



I don't get it either. Why does the horse have to be white? Wouldn't a Chestnut colored horse be just as dirty?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:50 PM (10vO4)


Which reminds me. Sometimes a comma and capitalization means everything. Try this sentence without one:

I helped my Uncle Jack, off his horse.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:53 PM (cY3LT)

334
So, the Chinese were really just yukkin' it up. I can appreciate that. Barry's ham fisted amateur syncophants wouldn't catch on anyway.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 14, 2018 01:51 PM (RuIsu)


Yeah I seem to remember fakenews playing it off as Obama being a regular guy and not concerned about the pomp and circumstance of it all.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 01:54 PM (10vO4)

335 "A giant, hairy creature, part ape, part man..."

Gene Roddenberry!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 01:54 PM (gUCYC)

336 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:49 PM (0jtPF)

I remember that too.

I actually remember watching the Japanese people react rather negatively to that jackass bowing at them. Looking around at each other like "what the eff is this guy doing? He's making us all look bad here!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:54 PM (BRvh1)

337 How many times have you heard people say things such as "He said to you and I ..."

Aaaaagh! Objective case, not nominative!

-
Me and Mrs. Jones
We got a thing goin' on

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 14, 2018 01:56 PM (+y/Ru)

338 It's still a dick move on the part of the Chinese, who are so quick to find offense themselves.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 01:52 PM (gUCYC)


Of course it is. They're a dick country. They are saying "You stupid Americans. We insult your President, you buy all our crap goods, while we don't allow you to sell anything to us, and you thank us for it. Good luck with your "free" marketplace, suckers."

Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:56 PM (cY3LT)

339 I don't remember details, but I remember that somehow or another the "bow" Obama made in Japan was the wrong type of bow, the stiff back, bend at the waist bow that a slave makes towards a master, or a child makes to a parent when he's been naughty. Not what The President makes to The Prime Minister, which should basically be a short little head nod if there's even to be any "bowing" at all.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:58 PM (BRvh1)

340 336
I actually remember watching the Japanese people react rather negatively to that jackass bowing at them. Looking around at each other like "what the eff is this guy doing? He's making us all look bad here!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 01:54 PM (BRvh1)


In Japan there is a lot of social protocol about bowing. Two equal peers will just basically nod to each other, while the full 90 degree bow like Obama did is the way a servant would bow to his master.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 01:58 PM (sdi6R)

341 How many times have you heard people say things such as "He said to you and I ..."

Aaaaagh! Objective case, not nominative!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:41 PM (js55S)
---------------------------------
It drives me bonkers. B-o-n-k-e-r-s.
And it is often highly (otherwise) literate and intelligent people who do this.

Another, though lesser, bugaboo is the indiscriminate use of "whoM/whoMever" where the nominative is right.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:59 PM (0jtPF)

342
Of course it is. They're a dick country. They are saying "You stupid Americans. We insult your President, you buy all our crap goods, while we don't allow you to sell anything to us, and you thank us for it. Good luck with your "free" marketplace, suckers."


Posted by: BurtTC at July 14, 2018 01:56 PM (cY3LT)


Is it wrong that I read that in stereotypical Chinese/English voice?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 02:00 PM (10vO4)

343 Is it wrong that I read that in stereotypical Chinese/English voice?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 02:00 PM (10vO4)
---

Flea Mahketprace!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:01 PM (gUCYC)

344 It's just like stupid ass Hillary and her Russian "reset" button that was actually an Emergency Shut Off button, with the word "PANIC" in Russian on the side (or whatever it was... it wasn't the right translation in any event)

Remember that guy's expression? The Russians had no idea what was going on, Skankles basically sprang it on them out of nowhere.

It was like a scene written by Larry David or something.

And that idiot and her crew wanted to run our country.

Feh!

*spit*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:02 PM (BRvh1)

345 Another, though lesser, bugaboo is the indiscriminate use of "whoM/whoMever" where the nominative is right.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 01:59 PM (0jtPF)

Misuse of reflexive pronouns bugs me to no end.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:03 PM (BRvh1)

346 Say what you will about 'squatchin', but Nimoy sells it.

He has a certain gravitas.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:04 PM (gUCYC)

347 Do tv ads of dads doing laundry really sell any detergent?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 02:06 PM (hMwEB)

348 Gah! Now i'm stewing about it!

That asshole bowing to foreign leaders....

NOBODY ELSE DOES THAT!

But this narcissist thought he was so damned gooderer and smarterer than all the other cats on the planet that he'd go out there and do it the RIGHT way! You'll see!

What a petulant, childish ass that man was.

Is.

Feh! Whatever.

*spit (again)*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:08 PM (BRvh1)

349 Say what you will about 'squatchin', but Nimoy sells it.
He has a certain gravitas.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:04 PM (gUCYC)

Let me understand.....you got Leonard Nimoy, Sasquatch, and Ranae from "Finding Bigfoot".

Nimoy goes with the Sasquatch, so who is having sex with Ranae?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at July 14, 2018 02:08 PM (EoRCO)

350
Do tv ads of dads doing laundry really sell any detergent?


Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 02:06 PM


Some of those guys are a little too good at folding laundry.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 02:09 PM (10vO4)

351 Some of those guys are a little too good at folding laundry.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 02:09 PM (10vO4)

The Venn Diagram between "Male Model/TV commerical actor" and "Works or used to work at the GAP" is basically a single circle.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:10 PM (BRvh1)

352 347 Do tv ads of dads doing laundry really sell any detergent?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 02:06 PM (hMwEB)
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That's a good question.
Since the main market for detergent has to be female, what is the hook here?
If you buy Cleano, your husband will do the laundry?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:13 PM (0jtPF)

353 347 Do tv ads of dads doing laundry really sell any detergent?
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 14, 2018 02:06 PM (hMwEB)
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It's housewife porn.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:15 PM (gUCYC)

354
Since the main market for detergent has to be female, what is the hook here? If you buy Cleano, your husband will do the laundry?


If you buy Victoria's Secret your husband will do the laundry.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 02:16 PM (10vO4)

355 The Portland take down in the Sidebar is great but I wanted more. It cuts off too soon.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 14, 2018 02:17 PM (yQpMk)

356 346 Say what you will about 'squatchin', but Nimoy sells it.

He has a certain gravitas.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:04 PM (gUCYC)

--That's why it was so epic.

I'm doubtful Quinto can follow up.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:21 PM (e7oj4)

357 Don't be trashing male models.
They are grievously oppressed.
You ever compare what they make to what female models make? It ain't no 75 cents to the dollar.

And when you get to the top echelon, it's obscene.
The top female models will make 100x what the top males do.
Auschwitz levels of oppression, if you ask me.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:21 PM (0jtPF)

358 344
Remember that guy's expression? The Russians had no idea what was going on, Skankles basically sprang it on them out of nowhere.

It was like a scene written by Larry David or something.

And that idiot and her crew wanted to run our country.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:02 PM (BRvh1)


This is why I think it's possible that Putin would actually prefer Trump to Hillary, without believing in "Russian collusion".

He surely knows how corrupt she is, and that she's a loose cannon and possibly mentally disturbed. Hell, she might even start a war just to prove that she's a Strong Woman.

Say what you will about Putin, but I don't believe he thinks that WWIII is in his best interest. It's best for all concerned if a serious adult is in charge of a superpower.

I look forward to a Trump-Putin meeting. That should be very interesting.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 02:21 PM (sdi6R)

359 And when you get to the top echelon, it's obscene.
The top female models will make 100x what the top males do.
Auschwitz levels of oppression, if you ask me.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:21 PM (0jtPF)

--It's no coincidence that modelling and prostitution are the two LOB where women consistently outearn men.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:24 PM (e7oj4)

360 This is why I think it's possible that Putin would actually prefer Trump to Hillary, without believing in "Russian collusion".

He surely knows how corrupt she is, and that she's a loose cannon and possibly mentally disturbed. Hell, she might even start a war just to prove that she's a Strong Woman.

Say what you will about Putin, but I don't believe he thinks that WWIII is in his best interest. It's best for all concerned if a serious adult is in charge of a superpower.

I look forward to a Trump-Putin meeting. That should be very interesting.
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 02:21 PM (sdi6R)

--Just a few more days to go, in Helsinki.

Scott Adams during the campaign deeply analyzed the differences between the alcoholic cunny and the teetotaler Trump , and he nailed it.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:27 PM (e7oj4)

361 357 Don't be trashing male models.
They are grievously oppressed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:21 PM (0jtPF)

Hey, I'm a strong 7 on a good day, so picking on 9s and 10s is punching up, whatever they're earning.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:30 PM (BRvh1)

362 Hmmm, I remember the Mt. St. Helens eruption.

I wonder if it wiped out the last samsquamptches.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:30 PM (e7oj4)

363 I wonder if it wiped out the last samsquamptches.
Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:30 PM (e7oj4)

There's no such thing as samsquamptches.

That was just Sam Losco living in a cave.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:32 PM (BRvh1)

364 I usually see the idiotic "reset" button Russian translated as "over-charge", but just now an online dictionary gives "overload, strain". Russian word on the idiotic prop was "Peryegruzka". Was not familiar with either word prior to this, so have no view of my own.


But the incident remains the most mind-blowingly, inexcusably idiotic and unprofessional thing in foreign policy in my lifetime. Lavrov's initial expression says it perfectly.


Can just imagine what Lavrov - a savvy and very experienced operator going back to the Soviet era - and his crew thought when they saw the SecState of the US, their biggest "account", the most important and (to them) dangerous rival counterpart for 4 generations, had brought a f***ing PROP to their first meeting.


But it nicely symbolized what completely unfit, dangerously foolish people populate an entire segment of the political class. Clinton years (90s) saw many many completely unfit people elevated to high rank, with predictable results - Obama years were worse by orders of magnitude.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 02:37 PM (QDnY+)

365 The other thing about Hillary starting a war is that there would be no better way to stamp out any domestic opposition. Then the Left gets to play the "patriot" card and treat anyone who stands in their way as traitors.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 02:38 PM (sdi6R)

366 This is why I think it's possible that Putin would actually prefer Trump to Hillary, without believing in "Russian collusion".
-----------------------------
I strongly disagree.
Hillary is completely predictable, not to mention easy to bribe and blackmail. Putty in Russian hands when she was SoS, putty thereafter.

Trump --- who would know?




Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:40 PM (0jtPF)

367 There's no such thing as samsquamptches.

That was just Sam Losco living in a cave.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:32 PM (BRvh1)

--LMAO that same season someone thought Randy sleeping under a porch was also a samsquamptch.

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:41 PM (e7oj4)

368 How many times have you heard people say things such as "He said to you and I ..."

Aaaaagh! Objective case, not nominative!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at July 14, 2018 01:41 PM (js55S)

Well, between you and I, not that much.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 14, 2018 02:43 PM (Dhht7)

369 "Boys, the metamorphosis is complete: Sam has become . . . an *actual* caveman."

--Bubbles

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:44 PM (e7oj4)

370 364---....But the incident remains the most mind-blowingly, inexcusably idiotic and unprofessional thing in foreign policy in my lifetime.....
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 02:37 PM (QDnY+)
------------------------------
Yep. I was gobsmacked by that one.
Here you had this "super-experienced" woman behaving, at best, like the student council president at the local middle-school.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:46 PM (0jtPF)

371 Clinton years (90s) saw many many completely unfit people elevated to high rank, with predictable results - Obama years were worse by orders of magnitude.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 02:37 PM (QDnY+)

Whatever

Posted by: Psoki and Harf at July 14, 2018 02:49 PM (e7oj4)

372 /airhead socks

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:51 PM (e7oj4)

373 366
Hillary is completely predictable, not to mention easy to bribe and blackmail. Putty in Russian hands when she was SoS, putty thereafter.

Trump --- who would know?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:40 PM (0jtPF)

370
Yep. I was gobsmacked by that one.
Here you had this "super-experienced" woman behaving, at best, like the student council president at the local middle-school.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 02:46 PM (0jtPF)



So she's not completely predictable.

That's kind of what I was trying to say earlier. Maybe Russian intelligence knows that she is dangerously unstable and unsuited to be president of a major superpower.

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 02:52 PM (sdi6R)

374 just for grins i found the clip of hillary and lavrov on youtube.

https://youtu.be/Ee4PfhogtdQ

In my memory, Lavrov was more incredulous, but he actually played it off well. I forgot that he had actually called her out then and there on the "misspelling" when she actually prompted him by asking if it was the right translation!

Ha. That false humility, "golly gee willikers, did we get your stupid foreign language with the backwards R's right, there, Ivan?"... and it actually *was* wrong! And then that damned cackle comes out... what a clown. What a fool.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:53 PM (BRvh1)

375 Clinton years (90s) saw many many completely unfit people elevated to high rank, with predictable results - Obama years were worse by orders of magnitude.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 02:37 PM (QDnY+)
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They seemed to rely on an assemblage of hipster hucksters who had no experience outside of politics or the media. Compare that to earlier generations who ran businesses, were administrators, and/or were in the military

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:54 PM (gUCYC)

376 Since it popped into my head:

https://youtu.be/Ll4N_pvoSXI

Thomas Dolby -- "Airhead"

Posted by: logprof at July 14, 2018 02:55 PM (e7oj4)

377 Pet thread, if you care.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:57 PM (gUCYC)

378 Got no garden. Got no pets.

I'll hang out here in the basement with all y'all ne'er-do-wells.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 02:59 PM (BRvh1)

379 In the short run, it's logical that Russia would prefer the corrupt, bought-and-paid-for Hillary.

But it might not work out in the long run if she throws a hissy fit and mashes the button because that male chauvinist pig Putin disrespected her. "I'll show HIM!!!"

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 03:03 PM (sdi6R)

380 Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 03:03 PM (sdi6R)

That was my operating assumption too, that Ol' Vadim would rather deal with a strong but sane opposition force in Trump, as opposed to a drunken, unstable, unscrupulous dullard.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:05 PM (BRvh1)

381 373---So she's not completely predictable.

That's kind of what I was trying to say earlier. Maybe Russian intelligence knows that she is dangerously unstable and unsuited to be president of a major superpower.
Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 02:52 PM (sdi6R)
---------------------------------
Maybe.

I can only say that, if I were Putin, I would prefer silly, anti-American leftists be in power.
And Hillary would be so easy to blackmail.

It would be a barrel of fun to see what Ruski intelligence had on Trump, BTW.
Or on Hillary. In that case we know the broad outline of crimes but the assessment of things like "mental stability" would be interesting.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 03:05 PM (0jtPF)

382 381
It would be a barrel of fun to see what Ruski intelligence had on Trump, BTW.
Or on Hillary. In that case we know the broad outline of crimes but the assessment of things like "mental stability" would be interesting.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 03:05 PM (0jtPF)


I'm hoping that the Russians really do have Hillary's e-mails and that Trump and Putin will be discussing them.

/goes long on popcorn futures

Posted by: rickl at July 14, 2018 03:08 PM (sdi6R)

383 375---They seemed to rely on an assemblage of hipster hucksters who had no experience outside of politics or the media. Compare that to earlier generations who ran businesses, were administrators, and/or were in the military
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 14, 2018 02:54 PM (gUCYC)
------------------------------
Indeed.
And yet if you compare the Clinton administration to Obama's in that respect, it looks good.
THAT's how awful the Obama regime was.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 03:09 PM (0jtPF)

384 Also, look at it this way: What were the hallmarks of Hillary's (and Kerry's) tenure as SecState?

Libya: Burning
Syria: Burning
Yemen: Burning
Mali: Not Burning anymore, because there's nothing and no one left there to burn

et cetera, et bloody cetera.

Vlad wants instability, not chaos. Cleaning up Syria is enough of a mess, without four years of that godawful monster actually sitting at the helm and shooting roman candles into the dry haystacks of contemporary geopolitics.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:09 PM (BRvh1)

385 Why wouldn't Russians want Leftists in power, they hate the military, kowtow to all other countries, know they will be up to their heads in debt to keep their social society intact.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 03:10 PM (pHfeF)

386 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 14, 2018 03:09 PM (0jtPF)

Through the vaseline coated lens of "History!", everyone now (of those who even knows who she is) thinks of Madeline Albright as some kind of dignified statesman, like a second coming of Kissinger or something.

In reality she was the same kind of blood soaked trainwreck as every other Democrat that's held that office. And some of the Rs, too.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:11 PM (BRvh1)

387 385 Why wouldn't Russians want Leftists in power, they hate the military, kowtow to all other countries, know they will be up to their heads in debt to keep their social society intact.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 03:10 PM (pHfeF)

Leftists in general, yes.

Hillary herself? newp.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:12 PM (BRvh1)

388 With Hillary's emails no more secure than yours, but so much more desirable some countries have them, and not talking friends but probably them too.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 03:13 PM (pHfeF)

389 Who would Vlad prefer as president in 2 words Uranium One.

Posted by: X-ray at July 14, 2018 03:18 PM (2YOIh)

390
I'm hoping that the Russians really do have Hillary's e-mails and that Trump and Putin will be discussing them.


And that explains why democrats are hysterically screaming about Trump meeting with Putin alone.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:18 PM (10vO4)

391 I'm hoping that the Russians really do have Hillary's e-mails and that Trump and Putin will be discussing them.


And that explains why democrats are hysterically screaming about Trump meeting with Putin alone.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:18 PM (10vO4)

I hadn't thought of that angle. Yeah, if would explain Rosenstein's sabotaging Trump's meeting with Putin.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 03:21 PM (y8Foj)

392 Speaking of emails and security and whatnot, one point that I don't hear talked about too often:

OK. It's over. The cat's out of the bag: The US Intel community is a freakin' joke. It doesn't "leak like a sieve", it leaks like a garden hose. And half of what "leaks" is false and/or fabricated anyway.

So tell me why any kind of foreign asset would ever in a million years try to cooperate with our agents on any kind of project? We've basically shot ourselves in the foot for years to come with all this bullshit. We've guaranteed that any assets that come forward are going to be plants or doubles or whatever.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:22 PM (BRvh1)

393 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:18 PM (10vO4)

I hadn't thought of that angle. Yeah, if would explain Rosenstein's sabotaging Trump's meeting with Putin.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 03:21 PM (y8Foj)

There's a certain Ockhaminess to this Razor...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:24 PM (BRvh1)

394 Hillary was blackmail material, so much Putin would have been the world eating from his hand.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 03:25 PM (pHfeF)

395 LOLing at my idle musings about Podesta's jammie wearing goons coming up against some DEVGRU gopniks in a dark alley...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:30 PM (BRvh1)

396 I hadn't thought of that angle. Yeah, if would explain Rosenstein's sabotaging Trump's meeting with Putin.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 03:21 PM (y8Foj)

There's a certain Ockhaminess to this Razor...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:24 PM (BRvh1)

I know right? But I was figuring Rosenstein had his little dog and pony show yesterday to get StrokePage off the news and just to, you know, be a dick.
I mean, Trump doesn't have to actually meet with Putin to discuss the emails.
But they don't want this meeting to take place.

I hope Trump has a parachute.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 03:30 PM (y8Foj)

397 Hillary was blackmail material, so much Putin would have been the world eating from his hand.
Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 03:25 PM (pHfeF)

Barry and Michelle were black male material too....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 03:31 PM (y8Foj)

398
I know right? But I was figuring Rosenstein had his little dog and pony show yesterday to get StrokePage off the news and just to, you know, be a dick. I mean, Trump doesn't have to actually meet with Putin to discuss the emails. But they don't want this meeting to take place.


But imagine that in the spirit of glasnost Putin comes clean and gives Trump and the American people some Russian insights into Clinton's dealings with them prior to and during the elections

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:35 PM (10vO4)

399 But imagine that in the spirit of glasnost Putin comes clean and gives Trump and the American people some Russian insights into Clinton's dealings with them prior to and during the elections
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:35 PM (10vO4)

If Putin really wants to sow discord in America (pro tip: he does), that's a pretty damn good way to do it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:37 PM (BRvh1)

400 Meeting with Putin isn't in the slightest jeopardy, or affected, by the DOJ press release, er, "indictment" this week. Putin is pragmatic, russkis don't really care about any of this ridiculous kabuki in DC. Correctly, they only care about what comes out of the black box.*


Russia is quite weak, with no prospects of getting stronger, they don't menace any of our vital interests. They're pretty much just vandals on the int'l scene, to the extent and where they matter at all (not many places). They seem to have even lost much traction on their periphery, as in Iran, where our renewed realistic policy is crushing all before it.


* the sorry state - intellectually, professionally, ethically - of much of the US intel and counter-intel community might have, must have, taken the Russkis aback, at least a bit.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 03:37 PM (QDnY+)

401
Russia is quite weak, with no prospects of getting stronger, they don't menace any of our vital interests. They're pretty much just vandals on the int'l scene, to the extent and where they matter at all (not many places). They seem to have even lost much traction on their periphery, as in Iran, where our renewed realistic policy is crushing all before it.

I believe the Russian gas deal with Germany could change that.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:39 PM (10vO4)

402
With Erdogan in Turkey becoming more Russian curious and Germany doing the same it seems that Putin might have NATO in a bit of a pincer.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:47 PM (10vO4)

403 Discord in America has zero to do with anything Russia does, or doesn't do. This whole ludicrous "Russia!" thing is just the laughable make-believe pretext seized upon by the unrecognizably stupid, alien, and irresponsible Dem part of the political class, their counterparts in the GOPe (passively), the PR branch of these people (the "press"), to make noise.


O-care continues to greatly harm millions (only national secret still intact, apparently), the border remains unsecured, "sanctuary" lawlessness remains rampant and completely unchallenged, and the whole policy agenda - where executive action alone isn't sufficient - that got Trump elected remains mostly dead in the water (minus tax cuts).


Plus the whole racist-authoritarian insanity (SJW-ism in all its idiotic forms) continues.


Most of the people talking about Russia! couldn't find it on a map.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 03:47 PM (QDnY+)

404 Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 03:47 PM (QDnY+)

I don't know, maybe you're right. Putin's got way bigger fish to fry than dicking with the US right now.

But I can't get over the trained, learned assumption that any Russian government, at any given time, sees it as their holy mission in life to screw with the US regardless of the cost.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:50 PM (BRvh1)

405
But I can't get over the trained, learned assumption that any Russian government, at any given time, sees it as their holy mission in life to screw with the US regardless of the cost.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 03:50 PM (BRvh1)


Even during the height of the Cold War it was China that terrified the Russians

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:52 PM (10vO4)

406 Russian gas exports have no effect on our vital interests. Germany is not a vital interest. They are quite useless to the US and the west. Have been since end of the Cold War and reunification. Distinguishing a "hostile" German policy posture from mostly what we've seen since reunification would be difficult - under Schroeder, there was literally no difference.


Germany has zero influence outiside its borders save for financially dominating the EU.


But the EU is also not our problem, or an asset of any kind. NATO - even without the almost comical situation with Turkey - is an irrelevant inertial relic of the Cold War. Snap your finger and make NATO disappear, nothing of importance changes, as we'd just do bilaterals for base rights with a handful of current members.


"New" Europe might be a problem - but hard to sell as a vital US interest, and also hard to sell the Russian threat (baseless pronouncements by online commenters that "Putin wants to rebuild the Russian empire!" aren't persuasive, compared to facts and observed behavior).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 03:54 PM (QDnY+)

407
Most of the people talking about Russia! couldn't find it on a map.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 03:47 PM (QDnY+)

I don't know. Put a blindfold on, give the globe a spin, and you probably have a 50% or better shot of "finding" Russia.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 14, 2018 03:57 PM (y8Foj)

408
Russian gas exports have no effect on our vital interests. Germany is not a vital interest. They are quite useless to the US and the west


Oh come on. It's worth hundreds of billions of dollars over decades and will give Russian banks greatly increased accesss to European financial institutions

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 03:59 PM (10vO4)

409 I once worked for a well-known retailer that sort of encouraged people to work off the clock. Since we were paid on commission, we learned to maximize our time that we were on the selling floor by coming in early or clocking out early in order to do stocking off the clock. This made your sales per hour look better. But this is a legal nightmare for an employer, even when they give tacit approval, and it should be forbidden.

Posted by: Denver at July 14, 2018 04:00 PM (u/aKl)

410

Germany has zero influence outiside its borders save for financially dominating the EU.

3.467 Trillion dollars can buy a lot of influence

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 04:02 PM (10vO4)

411 A dozen low-level IT guys practicing cyber warfare crap on US targets represents almost zero investment for Moscow. As to why they bother with their utterly irrelevant attempts at vandalism, who knows. Doesn't matter. There are lots of other much smaller actors who do the same stuff, also to no apparent possible benefit.


China is the big dog right now, in terms of both aggressiveness and level of effort. Different eras/situations, but current Chinese wall-to-wall effort against the US (espionage, primarily commercial/technological, plus influence ops) dwarfs anything any foreign power has ever conducted against us.


Not talking potential cyber-war posture - that can come from lots of actors, not just big ones either - but conventional espionage and other sorts of non-diplomatic operations.


But no foreign actor or action is literally even material to the way things are going or will go. That falls to internal decay in the US, which we discuss here daily. The jaw-dropping state of much of US intel and law enforcement, as on display for the last year or two, is one example.


But there are errands to run, so the russkis will just have to amuse themselves for the rest of the afternoon ....


And hope everyone is having a great Bastille Day!

Posted by: rhomboid at July 14, 2018 04:06 PM (QDnY+)

412 I think the big hitch with the German/Russian gas deal is that we were hoping the get the contract ourselves, shipping LNG across to them with our snazzy new tanker loading capabilities. A lot of investment has gone in to setting the US up as a major LNG exporter, and we were hoping to cut into Russia's turf a little bit.

But Germany has the gall to buy their gas from Russia, after begging us for money and troops and tech to protect them from.... Russia.

It's not that there's a direct military threat from Russia or Germany, it's just the appearance of it all. Looking weak. Looking like the loser. Looking like the mook.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 14, 2018 04:07 PM (BRvh1)

413 NATO right now is a weight around our neck, paying for Europe's upkeep with no real threat right now. Some of former Soviet states that got away from Russia do have threat issues so would benefit from a strong NATO.

Posted by: Skip at July 14, 2018 04:09 PM (pHfeF)

414
But Germany has the gall to buy their gas from Russia, after begging us for money and troops and tech to protect them from.... Russia.


There are about a dozen European countries that are alarmed about the new pipeline cutting them out. Hopefully we are working on plans to sell gas to them.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 14, 2018 04:11 PM (10vO4)

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