New York Times: Say, Let's "Fix" the Janus Decision By Empowering the Government to Directly Thieve Money Away from Public Sector Employees' Checks, and Send That Stolen Money Straight to Unions

Yes! Let's have the government turn to straight-up theft to take citizens' money to deliver it to their clients!

Let's get this Revolution started!



How many public sector employees will stop paying dues now that they're free to do so? It could be a lot. The Wisconsin NEA had a 70 percent decline in membership, once that state got rid of compulsory union dues.

This might be part of why people are bailing on unions, unless they're forced to belong: While union leadership looting member funds for their own benefit is as old as the Democrat Party itself, there's actually an epidemic of it recently.


But what is happening to the declining sums of money the unions are taking in as their membership shrinks? Aside from sizable political contributions, it appears there is a national epidemic of embezzlement by union leadership grifters. Let's take a closer look at whatís been going on around the country.

First stop is New York. Meet Aaron Collington: he's the former president of the Troy, New York Police Union. Collington was accused of stealing $6,200 from the union bank account to pay his rent and was charged with third-degree grand larceny. The money he allegedly stole came from the Troy Police Benevolent Associationís bank account. Collington has pled not guilty.

Moving over to Massachusetts, we find Henry Clay Green, Sr. who was the former secretary treasurer of Unite Here Local 26 between 2011 to 2016. Mr. Green has pled guilty to embezzling more than $170,000 from his union...

Perhaps you have loftier aspirations of grift. In that case, Raymond Ventrone of Pennsylvania might be your guy. Ventrone, a business manager for the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers Local 154, was charged with embezzling almost $1.5 million of union funds....

Raiding union assets is not only an East Coast phenomenon. Say hello to Edward Padilla, former secretary-treasurer and business manager for the Bakersfield, California, office of a construction workers union. Padilla, who also served as president of his union, embezzled more than $160,000 according the federal court documents....

And on, and on, and on.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:06 PM




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1 You just knew they would find a way.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:06 PM (I16G8)

2 My goodness. Do they have sense of when to STAHP?

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 28, 2018 07:06 PM (fYi9j)

3 Maybe they could just mint some trillion dollar coins and give them to the unions.

Jeez, you have to be pretty damn educated to be stupid enough to believe this.

Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2018 07:07 PM (DH5wZ)

4 Downstairs notified

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:07 PM (I16G8)

5 And this would be legal and a typical Blue State response.


Why not screw everyone to retain the unions power to donate to democrats.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 28, 2018 07:07 PM (+Dllb)

6 They'd only get away with this in Deep Blue states (and not even all of them).

And the legal morass they'd open up? Good luck.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (oVJmc)

7 That is horrible. Jeez.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (a0IVu)

8 The next round of lawsuits will likely be against union brass making it clear that if you don't stay in the union and pay your dues, very bad things can and will happen.

Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (uc45P)

9 The spice must flow

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (I84K6)

10
Dear G-d, the abject goniffing thievery is so utterly in your face it's just disgusting.

With associate justice Mark Levin taking Kennedy's seat, this too will get slapped down.

Until Pelosi goes over the fence, through the window, under the wire, down the chimney.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (VM6ev)

11 Keep it up, you loons. Every one of these "ideas" is another nail in your coffin, and you appear to have acquired a high rep rate nail gun.

Posted by: pep at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (T6t7i)

12 MA is already trying to get a bill passed which would do the same.

Didn't the Janus ruling also state that .gov can't collect any dues for the union too? So no funny games with 'fees' or 'taxes' which are really dues?

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (N5dam)

13 Si it's a lock for California.

Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (q177U)

14 All unions for government workers should be abolished.

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (yACxx)

15
Please Keep This In Mind: Municipalities, which are fiduciary spenders for the taxpayer, are SUPPOSED to be on the OPPOSITE SIDE of the Negotiating Table from the Unions, not in bed with them!


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (0ejlr)

16 It's a tax!

Posted by: Admiral John Roberts at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (5jVnA)

17 Extortion hath many currents.

Posted by: Caliban at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (QE8X6)

18 The 'Kickback Tax.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:10 PM (oVJmc)

19 Super Elite? Hah, you are Super Serfs!

Posted by: The Real Elites at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (v/EYA)

20 The Supreme Court is a poopyhead!

Posted by: The New York Times at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (0ogQG)

21 okay, I know I can be a little slow now and then but how is take home pay not affected if you are earning less? Is this some strange double speak?

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (dUJdY)

22 Gawd I hate unions.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (0tfLf)

23
Well the money was just sitting there. Who wouldn't pick it up?

Posted by: Sam Grifter, Jesse James Union 69 Train Local President at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (r+sAi)

24
So now instead of kicking back union dues to the Democrats the entire taxpaying public in each state will be shaken down?

Meh, day ending in "Y."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (VM6ev)

25 I know this might sound like a set up for a joke, but aren't there some campaign finance laws against a state levying a tax and depositing the money right into a political group's coffers like that?

So if you have a union, government job, the state takes an extra tax vs a non-government job, then deposits that money into the bank account of the union?

Talk about corruption.

Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (uc45P)

26
Indeed, I have no idea why WE have yet to start a massive class action with the Huge Conflict of Interest going on with Democrat office holders and the union pals they negotiate contracts with.

Unions and Democrats are Screwing Us. Shirley, there's a case to be made here.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (0ejlr)

27 Policeman steals from Benevolent Association. Catch thief !

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (bUjCl)

28 The unions just might have to start thinking up ways in which they can provide value to their members instead of dollars to politicians.

Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)

29 Abolish this fucking government unions. And everybody gets punched in the dick.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (J7XgW)

30
In other words, it's a godam racket.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (0ejlr)

31 Unions and Democrats are Screwing Us. Shirley, there's a case to be made here.



Posted by: Soothsayer

There is.

And don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (9rIkM)

32
Jeez. Second look at the Mafia (if there is such a thing)?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (VM6ev)

33 Abolish this fucking government unions.

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I approve this message

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (bUjCl)

34 Organized Crime...

The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (9De+S)

35 That ain't gonna fly for Federal employees.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (oVJmc)

36 Not sure how they can do this without taxing everyone. Equal protection should, but may not, protect non union members working in union organizations.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (I16G8)

37 NYT = Subversives. Arrest all the Management and their staff.

Posted by: SE Cupp at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (r9UYA)

38 29 Abolish this fucking government unions. And everybody gets punched in the dick.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (J7XgW)


A uterus-booterus.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (VM6ev)

39 Benjamin Sachs, a Labor Expert at Harvard Law School...


Tells ya all you need to know.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (0tfLf)

40

NO! you dumbasses, just start a fake charity! jeez!

Posted by: Hillary at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (r+sAi)

41 off dumb trollop sock

Posted by: Under Fire at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (r9UYA)

42 37 NYT = Subversives. Arrest all the Management and their staff.

Posted by: SE Cupp at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (r9UYA)


Smash the friggin' Heidelbergs and dump the ink in the East River.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (VM6ev)

43 Embezzlement? Thats strong stew Ace. It was tip!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (2CQCl)

44 Stealing from the police doesn't seem like a real smart thing to do.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (sdi6R)

45 Shame we don't have anyone to do something similar regarding Obamacare, or gay bathrooms, or Roe vs Wade.

But all of that stuff immediately becomes settled law.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (VgKNm)

46 The unions used to be really good until they started raping members.

Posted by: Sheanine at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (e8VEY)

47 The stoopid from the Left is starting to hurt my brain.

Perhaps surrounding Hahvahd and then burning it to the ground, shooting anyone trying to escape, would be a good start.

But unfortunately, it would only be a start.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (UsCnO)

48 REPEAL EO 10987.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (89T5c)

49 Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)


Buying your own liability insurance is cheaper than union dues.

Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (/A+Cl)

50
This is the obamacare mandate on marxist steroids.




Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (0ejlr)

51 Sachs says the money ultimately comes from the government.

And there is the key.
Fu*king dumbass, it comes from the people.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (0tfLf)

52 Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)

53 Dont the unions also have private golf courses and resorts only for the muckity mucks?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (2CQCl)

54 45 Shame we don't have anyone to do something similar regarding Obamacare, or gay bathrooms, or Roe vs Wade.

But all of that stuff immediately becomes settled law.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (VgKNm)


Wait until the penumbra emanates in their direction, please G-d.

That said, I still want my justices to follow the Constitution.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (VM6ev)

55 Unions are passe. Talk to the guy that embezzled 1.7 million in fajitas.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (dsGGq)

56 This so called expert is missing a pretty big thing.

The dues / fees MUST be opt-in.

This shell game he suggests is too clever by half. Plus, SCOTUS has ruled that governments cannot do by regulation or tax what they cannot otherwise do legally.

This is wishcasting by the NYT.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (++G28)

57 52 Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)


How many billionaires in the South Bronx and Corona?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (VM6ev)

58 "that it's a move toward the greater good for worker protections"

Easier solution: How about government quit fucking with the workers? Then there'd be no need for unions.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (SqM8E)

59 there is no mafia. they are now "social clubs." didn't anybody get the fucking memo? maybe time to get your shine box.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (KP5rU)

60 34 Organized Crime...

The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (9De+S)


That's for sure. And public employee unions are nothing but a way to transfer taxpayer money to the Democrat Party.

Tax revenue > Public employee pay > Union dues > Contributions to Democrats

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

61 Benjamin Sachs, a labor expert at Harvard Law School.....

who's never done any actual labor in his life.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (nILVB)

62 I have a family member who works for the fed government. Based on what she has told me, it's a safe bet that most lower-level federal workers will stop paying union dues as soon as they can. Sure, they're nearly all democrats, but that just means they're selfish and they aren't going to pay anything they don't have to.

Posted by: girldog at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (g5YYQ)

63 Oh man, oh man. Just let these goons play their shenanigans with extorting money out of people... Especially now the taxpayers at large.

Trump will eat them for lunch in his rally stemwinders.

He'll have We The People so full of piss and vinegar the Public Sector Mafia will have no choice but to give up on their schemes.

Ochlocracy is actually pretty cool when you're finally a member of the Ochlos.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (BRvh1)

64 Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
************************

She wants to be POTUS.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (PvFoN)

65
Benjamin Sachs, a labor expert at Harvard Law School.....


He mows the lawn out front?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (10vO4)

66 As membership declines and dues revenues dry up, one would expect the embezzlers to be exposed. When the pool empties, everybody can see who's swimming naked.

Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (mk9aG)

67 She wants to be POTUS.
=====

So did Hillary.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (nILVB)

68 You know, if the AFSCME local 173 was funded at, say $100 million per year, your re election victory fund might find itself $10 million richer.


Naaaaahhhh. Never happen. I'm sure the union goons would only ask for a fair compensation package, and the politicians approving it would be fair stewards of the public purse.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (wdmm9)

69 Sure. Let's have state and federal government withhold union dues and directly fund the unions that supposedly negotiate with them.
Hell, let's just have one big union, as the Wobblies suggested.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)

70 I guarantee you no matter how the media portrays this, huge swaths of union workers are happy about the decision.

They now get a whole lot more power of their union leadership.

Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (uc45P)

71 Omgawd!!

A labor Expert from HARVARD said this! I thought it was the NyTimes being stupid, but it was a fvckin' expert. Top Men!

I can't even. I wouldn't have gotten outta high school with statements like that.

Zen state obliterated.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (Axa8z)

72 Shrug. They gotta convince voters that unions only 10% of them belong to should be subsidized by everyone in the state through tax dollars, that sounds like a tough sell, even in NYC.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (39g3+)

73 60 34 Organized Crime...

The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (9De+S)

That's for sure. And public employee unions are nothing but a way to transfer taxpayer money to the Democrat Party.

Tax revenue > Public employee pay > Union dues > Contributions to Democrats
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

Even the very, very few agencies that AREN'T funded by taxpayers (and therefore, don't have to answer to the Governor) still have their pay forcefully confiscated.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (9De+S)

74 Sachs runs the leaf blower.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (89T5c)

75 i'm conflicted, I believe for the good ov union members it is great to disconnect the political activism to politicians not of their choice.
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.

police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.

so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?

Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (dPd5y)

76 I tho't they banned "ONION JEWS"...who knew?

Posted by: saf at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (5IHGB)

77 He mows the lawn out front?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (10vO4)

That's what Brown grads are for.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (BRvh1)

78
*burrrrp*

(fat carcass quivers like jello mold)


*fart*

(fat carcass quivers again)

Posted by: Spherical Morbidly Obese Union Official Sleeping it Off at the Office at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (0dEDB)

79
Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in
the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued
by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't
know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but
getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.


Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)


----

It's a good excuse but it's bullsh*t. They stay in because of the job security, the sweet raises during recessions, and the constant raises. It's why they're a voting bloc. It's a very simple agreement, too. They know governors and government of both parties will kiss their ass to pay for their votes every few years, and the teachers will grumble and poormouth to see who gives them the best deal on their vote.

Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.



Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (VgKNm)

80 Maybe we should get the treasures out of NYC's museums while we can.

Posted by: weew at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (gk7if)

81 This is going to hit the brick wall before it even begins moving. This is think-tank fantasy.

Posted by: Soona at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (fNJbX)

82 Let's have state and federal government withhold union dues and directly fund the unions that supposedly negotiate with them.

That strikes me as a pretty easy court case to win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (39g3+)

83 sorry that was written so poorly. I hope someone has the fortitude to read it and help me find a answer

Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (dPd5y)

84 Come on, people. Pony Up , I've got an OT drum I want to beat the hell out of.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (dsGGq)

85 64 Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
************************

She wants to be POTUS.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (PvFoN)


Somebody said earlier that she used to work as a bartender.

So at age 28 she already has more private sector work experience than Obama.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

86 64
Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)

************************



She wants to be POTUS.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (PvFoN)

She wants to be Mao Tse Tung

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (UsCnO)

87 Shirley, there's a case to be made here.
Yes there is, and don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: Paladin at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (CC3uP)

88 So the government would pay the union? I thought the government's role was to negotiate against the union so that it could get a better deal, ie. so that it could pay *less*.

And I thought the union's job was to negotiate on behalf of the employees. What kind of advocate are they being on behalf of those they represent when they are negotiating to rich themselves at the expense of those they represent?

It's all topsy turvy, as if everyone forgot what the original purposes of these roles.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (/qEW2)

89 The Darthmouth guys scoop up the dog shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (89T5c)

90 to be fair tho...wasn't this already in the 2009 porkulus?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (FOPyv)

91 64. She wants to be Mao.
She'd settle for POTUS.
she'll get disappeared.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (fA1SL)

92 New York Times: Say, Let's Use Other Totalitarian Powers to Steal People's Money and Line Our Pockets With It

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (oVJmc)

93 i'm conflicted, I believe for the good ov union members it is great to disconnect the political activism to politicians not of their choice.
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.

police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.

so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
Posted by: willow

___________

Screw law enforcement unions.

I've seen them fight tooth and nail alongside other state workers if anyone even talks about pension reforms.

I hope it withers and dies away.

Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (uc45P)

94
She looks like Huma Abedin

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (10vO4)

95 So the government would pay the union? I thought the government's role was to negotiate against the union so that it could get a better deal, ie. so that it could pay *less*.

=


theh good old days..like when Reagan fired Traffic Controllers; him being a Union man hisself was a nice touch.

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (bUjCl)

96 Please please please let them do this. Democrats will NEVER win another election again if they tell workers 'You're paycheck is smaller this week because we have to keep our Union benefactors paid so that they can pass the money back to us. Um, it's TRUMP'S FAULT!"

Posted by: Paul at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (H7dia)

97 See, when I thought it was the NYT being stupid again, it was more a shrug. That's who they are now.

Then I read the actual post and omgawd how can a law expert from Harvard be that stupid?! How can anyone be that stupid?!!

Lesson: Don't actually read the Post. Just read the headline.

What is JFC?
Is it like KFC?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (Axa8z)

98 75 i'm conflicted, I believe for the good ov union members it is great to disconnect the political activism to politicians not of their choice.
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.

police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.

so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (dPd5y)

Willow. It is called legal insurance. I have it and I do not belong to a union. My company offers it.

Posted by: Soona at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (fNJbX)

99 Let's have state and federal government withhold union dues and directly fund the unions that supposedly negotiate with them.

I doubt the union would do anything for them. That's not what they say their job is. Example, a woman talks about the unions non-help for her in her Nursing job:

SEIU did nothing for me. I worked at the state hospital as an LPN (I'm now an RN) and had an RN coworker who did not think LPNs should work in the capacity we did. To shorten a very long story, she gave my personal info to a sex offender patient. For my birthday I got a card with a penis on the front and a heart symbolizing my vagina. The inside was signed by that nurse, my manager, my assistant manager, and several patients. I asked to transfer units. I was told no. I went to my union rep and union headquarters. I was told I would have to hire an attorney because there was nothing the union could do because I was not facing disciplinary action. They could only help if I was. So, I got a penis card from a sex offender signed by my boss for my birthday and the union couldn't even help me transfer to another unit. But they sure collected my dues.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (39g3+)

100
btw, did the corrupt fbi rush to the shooting today?

Of course they did! They raced over there to do 2 things: do damage control for the Democrats, or help politicize the shooting for the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (0ejlr)

101 Shirley, there's a case to be made here.
Yes there is, and don't call me Shirley.


Posted by: Paladin

Not quick enough on the draw. . . see #31

Posted by: Tonypete at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (9rIkM)

102 Ms, Cortez is going to find out that Nancy ain't dead yet.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (dsGGq)

103 I think that Ocasio chick is pretty easy on the eyes, so when the commies take over, at least the posters will be pretty. When it's my turn to be shot, maybe she'll be doing revolver duty that day.

Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (mk9aG)

104 86 52 Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)


"I *slurp*like it!"

- - Anita "Gorn" Dunn

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (VM6ev)

105 *excuse me...he was a labor expert.
Not a law expert.

Actually, in truth, the guy is really, really, stupid.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (Axa8z)

106 97: use your imagination.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (89T5c)

107
What is JFC?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (Axa8z)


Jewish Fried Chicken

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (10vO4)

108 We'll know we're succeeding when the Unions have to put their palatial offices and executive jets up for sale, and the "Officers" of said Unions can no longer afford the initiations, dues and associated fees of their precious Country Club memberships.

I know there are entire "hobby" forums given to the tracking and intel of every corporate jet and turbo-prop under FAA registration.

Bet the 4chan types could raid those databases, and let us know when the SEIU jet goes to the auction block.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (QzJWU)

109 @99 that is one disturbing story, right there..

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:26 PM (bUjCl)

110 Organized Crime...



The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.

--

It really is true. They're all knuckle crackers.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 28, 2018 07:26 PM (mQ0Mc)

111 What is JFC?
=====

The first word is "Jesus."

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:27 PM (nILVB)

112 Next NYT editorial: Why not just have the government give money directly to the Democratic Party and cut out the middleman?

Posted by: Mallamutt at June 28, 2018 07:27 PM (MOlL1)

113 The first word is "Jesus."

=

what's the second ???

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:27 PM (bUjCl)

114 Still no face or name on the shooter although I understand they have identified him. But we can't know these things. Fucking Vegas all over again just a lower body count.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (dUJdY)

115
btw, the corrupt fbi and corrupt dept of justice and fake news announced today that "hate crimes" were charged against the white man for running over the white leftist woman.

The basis for the "hate crime" charge is....the act was racially motivated.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (0ejlr)

116 103 I think that Ocasio chick is pretty easy on the eyes, so when the commies take over, at least the posters will be pretty. When it's my turn to be shot, maybe she'll be doing revolver duty that day.
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (mk9aG)


Yeah, but Commies tend to shoot you in the back of the head, so it doesn't help if she's a cute chick.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (sdi6R)

117 Isn't it funny that the Left isn't even trying to understand the merits of the case, it's just "THIS IS AWFUL BECAUSE DEMOCRATS GET LESS MONEY!!!"

Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (uc45P)

118 what's the second ???

Blasphemy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (39g3+)

119 103 I think that Ocasio chick is pretty easy on the eyes, so when the commies take over, at least the posters will be pretty. When it's my turn to be shot, maybe she'll be doing revolver duty that day.
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (mk9aG)


Well, if you're gonna have a chica hang with the Joo-haters, she better be easy on the eyes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (VM6ev)

120 Stealing from the police doesn't seem like a real smart thing to do.
Most of the cop union guys are/were cops.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (O5Q3r)

121 Don't think it would fly with the Supreme Court or the workers getting a pay cut. Too obvious a scam.

Posted by: Toad-O at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (cct0t)

122 First rule of democrat-fascism is you never tell the truth.

Second rule of democrat-fascism is you lie to the proles all the time.

The left is not even trying to hide it anymore. They are actually telling the truth about how they want to subjugate the people.

The republicans are going to romp in 2018 and Trump is going to have a huge win in 2020.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (pw+jk)

123 So how easy is it for union members to quit paying their dues if they choose to? When they stop anteing up, don't they get a ride in the cement mixer, or sugared gasoline in their car, or poisoned dog or something? As a practical matter, can they stop paying?

Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:30 PM (mk9aG)

124
>>>Dont the unions also have private golf courses and resorts only for the muckity mucks?<<<
If Stormy Daniels isn't blowing me at least near the par four fifth hole, I'm thinking I want a remittance on my green fees.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (J7XgW)

125 I called this shit two seconds after the decision came down.

Democrats sure do love funneling taxpayer money back to themselves.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (UfMVm)

126 Finally. OT, PRINCE WILLIAM CAN GO FUCK HIS POLO PONY>

In his OFFICIAL visit to ISRAEL, William meets with hamas lite and tells them " We will never forget you" " I look forward to an enhanced relationship with the Fakestinian people.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (dsGGq)

127 This is a union bail-out, no?


Also, how can the government both fund the unions *and* negotiate with the unions?

I know, I know, the NYT thinks that's a feature, not a bug. They want "the forgotten man" to financially cuckolded by rubbing his face in it.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (W+vEI)

128 Thanks for the JFC knowledge. My dad used to use it all the time, I hated it and try never to use it.

But I loved Jewish Fried Chicken! So I'm going with that. Unless that's offensive to Jews. Then I won't.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (Axa8z)

129 It may have gone right over the pointy heads, but the Janus decision prevents the NYT's proposal from going forward. Along with all of the other decisions on the same line.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (0QYMt)

130
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.



Illinois teacher. You can work 20 years as a union stooge, work one day as a substitute teacher and retire with a full teacher pension and benefits.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (wdmm9)

131 They don't win the House in Nov., the lid is going to blow off.

IOW, the lid is going to blow off.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)

132 The Gazette shooter has been identified by facial recognition software.

I didn't see a name yet. They did say white male in his 20s or 30s.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (nILVB)

133 Yeah I want to see the union bosses have to sell a few of their vacation homes and the union HQ's downsize from palaces to strip mall offices.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (39g3+)

134 Trump should tweet out that he is working on disbanding public employee unions. The head exploding would be astounding and go on for months.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (pw+jk)

135 128. Meh. We're not hypersensitive, like those goddamned tulip-peddling dike wogs.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (fA1SL)

136 No wait. My dad used JHC. So not quite as bad.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (Axa8z)

137 >>I think that Ocasio chick is pretty easy on the eyes, so when the commies take over, at least the posters will be pretty. When it's my turn to be shot, maybe she'll be doing revolver duty that day.




Che was pretty, too, and he's still seducing idiots (via his t-shirts, etc.) into believing he was a revolutionary hero.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (W+vEI)

138 @126 He was told NOT to visit Jerusalem either and meet the mayor and he mayor refused to meet him anywhere outside the city (good move). Feel bad for William - he is just doing what he is told by the jew-hating Foreign Office.

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (bUjCl)

139 123

Safety in numbers.

Posted by: Toad-O at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (cct0t)

140 137. Meh. Che doesn't hold a candle to Brezhnev.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (fA1SL)

141 But I loved Jewish Fried Chicken! So I'm going with that.

I love George Costanza's "sweet fancy Moses!" oath. That one is always fun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (39g3+)

142 "...difficult to implement." Yeah and also probably illegal. Their argument that the union dues come from government worker's pay checks and therefore ultimately comes from the government is wrong. The money is paid to the workers for service rendered. Except for taxes the government has no say as to where he spends it. Anymore than a restaurant customer can demand where a chef or waiter spends the money they paid for service rendered.

Posted by: TR at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (jOSqt)

143 @115
It was basically DOJ/FBI busy work as the state is already prosecuting the shit out of that guy.
Sessions is a god damned disgrace.
Pot, Car Manufacturers, College Recruiters, and people who are already being charged at the state level.

What a waste.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (UfMVm)

144 The Gazette shooter has been identified by facial recognition software.



I didn't see a name yet. They did say white male in his 20s or 30s.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (nILVB)

=====
How come it is never Black male or hispanic male? I know. I know.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (pw+jk)

145 Stealing from the police doesn't seem like a real smart thing to do.
Most of the cop union guys are/were cops.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (O5Q3r)

----------

No, it doen't, but it would be pretty easy to do if you're the person who approves invoices for payment for a long period of time.

All you need is a partner to setup a business that provides "services" to the Union. However, when you finally do pull the plug, you had better head straight to the private jet that will take you to the non extradition country of your choice where you have stashed the stolen coin.

And, never come back.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (I16G8)

146 Soona, alright so there is a rather easy solution.. ty

Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (dPd5y)

147 If Stormy Daniels isn't blowing me at least near the par four fifth hole, I'm thinking I want a remittance on my green fees.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (J7XgW)


No need for Stormy. We're the New York Times, so our staff provides that service.

Posted by: The Worst Little Whorehouse in New York at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (59GGI)

148 Do the Jews fry their chicken before making chicken noodle soup?

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (sdi6R)

149 111 What is JFC?
=====
The first word is "Jesus."


are the other two "frijoles" and "chili"?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (xGZ+b)

150 My brother's in the firefighters union. He says it a lot less of a hassle to be a member of the union then not to be, especially when you're in a job where your life can depend on the guy next to you Plus he says it makes it a lot easier to vote in elections since all he does is vote opposite of what the leadership tells him.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (O5Q3r)

151 Finally. OT, PRINCE WILLIAM CAN GO FUCK HIS POLO PONY>



In his OFFICIAL visit to ISRAEL, William meets with hamas lite and
tells them " We will never forget you" " I look forward to an enhanced
relationship with the Fakestinian people.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (dsGGq)


In his defense he will one day be king of a muslim country.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (sXefu)

152 148 Do the Jews fry their chicken before making chicken noodle soup?
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (sdi6R)



We hit it with lightning...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (VM6ev)

153 145. Pro tip : Fake your death.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (fA1SL)

154 >>How come it is never Black male or hispanic male? I know. I know.



Seriously?!?

Posted by: Chiraq, every damn day at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (W+vEI)

155 Why is trumps approval rating not 50 points lower you might ask? caaaackle caaaackle cackle -hic-

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (wdmm9)

156 But I loved Jewish Fried Chicken! So I'm going with that. Unless that's offensive to Jews. Then I won't.

I'm guilty of the JFC thing and always immediately look Heavenward and ask for forgiveness. Bad habit. I like the Jewish Fried Chicken thing though!

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (dUJdY)

157 I got it ! Jesus Fun Camp !

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (bUjCl)

158
The H stands for Herschel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (VM6ev)

159 no? ok

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (bUjCl)

160 runner, He is being told what to do by the anti- semetic policies of Grandmothers reign.

I used to have a lot of respect for QE11, but she has become GBW anymore.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (dsGGq)

161 "You can work 20 years as a union stooge, work one day as a substitute teacher and retire with a full teacher pension and benefits"

Actually, that was a one-time loophole that two teachers union stooges tried to exploit, without success.

https://tinyurl.com/yaausw23

Posted by: Secret Square at June 28, 2018 07:38 PM (9WuX0)

162 >>In his defense he will one day be king of a muslim country.


I'm sure they'll keep this visit in mind while they're beheading him and hoisting the ISIS flag at Buckingham Palace.

Posted by: Chiraq, every damn day at June 28, 2018 07:38 PM (W+vEI)

163 Just occurred to me. Since we Old Farts are all getting Social Security, which is money from the gummint, doesn't that mean we are employees? And therefore couldn't we fall under this wise and just rule?

Or why not just cut the middle man, and give the money straight to the DNC?

Posted by: George LeS at June 28, 2018 07:38 PM (59GGI)

164 runner, He is being told what to do by the anti- semetic policies of Grandmothers reign.

I used to have a lot of respect for QE11, but she has become GBW anymore.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (dsGGq)

yes. they always leaned toward the arab world. He was visiting in official capacity, too. could not go outside the mandate. I still hope that he will turn out like his mother, not his grandmother.

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:39 PM (bUjCl)

165 I loved Jewish Fried Chicken! So I'm going with that.

Its like Cotton Pickin'

Some guy on Fox asked a black guy also on Fox "are you out of your cotton pickin' mind???"

The usual easily-outraged suspects outraged at him saying this. Its racist you see. Cotton picking? Black?

I tried to point out that it has nothing to do with color, that its a semi-polite way of substituting for G-D and that whites picked craploads of cotton such as Johnny freaking Cash, but they had their narrative.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (39g3+)

166 Public sector unions are an obvious abomination, but it's probably impossible to get rid of them. Might be the country's biggest problem - more consequential than all the rest. Not just fiscally. Not just the outrageous corruption of the self-dealing. But the public service ethic. Unionization probably a greater factor in the decline of that than any cultural issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (QDnY+)

167 "great good for worker's protection."


Now where have I heard that idea before....on.the.tip.of.my.tongue. Think, think, think....

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (Enq6K)

168 Oh and here's the latest from the Commie Cutie

"This is our nation's 195th mass shooting - this year."

hundreds of millions dying each day!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (39g3+)

169 We Wuz Robin Hoodz!

Posted by: The Feds at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (Q9ugn)

170 Now, Unions will have to get by on their hard work ethic and winning personalities.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (+xnSO)

171 They don't win the House in Nov., the lid is going to blow off.

IOW, the lid is going to blow off.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)


Yea, I don't know how they survive that. They are so unhinged, have dialed themselves and each other to defcon eleventy...and I don't know where all that hate and fear go? I guess violence.

Also, if new SCOTUS judge gets approved, there could be an explosion then. Chris Matthews has lost his marbles over that one. He could stroke out.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (Axa8z)

172 Chicken Schnitzel is popular in Israel.

Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (q177U)

173 Check out this stunt of intellectual genius that has the left freaking out:

The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"


FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)

174 79


Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in

the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued

by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't

know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but

getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)

I didn't join a union (AZ right to work) but as a Special Ed. teacher carried liability insurance. it was very reasonable. "parent advocates" (lawyers) love going after SPED teachers and district programs for "failure to educate" and students are savvy about claiming teacher is racist or a pervert just because they are pissed off at them.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (2CQCl)

175 75 i'm conflicted, I believe for the good ov union members it is great to disconnect the political activism to politicians not of their choice.
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.

police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.

so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
=============
Look, the ruling did not abolish unions. It only stopped you from being forced to be in one. It now comes down to cost/benefit. If you are so worried about the above, join the union. If you're not, don't. This isn't Rocket Science.

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (iJhFW)

176 >>Now, Unions will have to get by on their hard work ethic and winning personalities.



Uh, so will the Democrats, who will be hurtin' without their yuge union campaign donations?!?
LOL

Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (W+vEI)

177 Pertaining to nothing ...

... Auburn/Lewistown Maine has a damn nice little Memorial Park built to their Veterans. It was a pleasure to see such a thing.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 07:43 PM (DOpvX)

178 The union doesn't provide professional liability insurance for union members. It's the employer - company, state, municipality, school district.

But it could get ugly out there. I'm from the Philly area and these unions ain't nice.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 28, 2018 07:43 PM (ttFx9)

179 173 Check out this stunt of intellectual genius that has the left freaking out:

The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"

FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)


That sounds like something Calypso Louie would say. He's pretty big on numerology.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:44 PM (sdi6R)

180 177. Wonder if the Somalis will do the necessary maintenance when they complete their takeover there.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)

181 Finally. OT, PRINCE WILLIAM CAN GO FUCK HIS POLO PONY>

In his OFFICIAL visit to ISRAEL, William meets with hamas lite and tells them " We will never forget you" " I look forward to an enhanced relationship with the Fakestinian people.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (dsGGq)


Told ya so. Not you Ben, but others were very pro William thinking he was gonna be great, and I was telling them I didn't thing so and why.

And there it is. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:44 PM (Axa8z)

182 We hit it with lightning...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (VM6ev)

Huh...so thats where the term Jewish Lightning comes from.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)

183 The Brits have been bought and paid for by the Saudi's and now the KSA is telling the faki's to get fucked and here comes William kissing their ass. Sadiq Kahn foreign policy.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (dsGGq)

184 173 Check out this stunt of intellectual genius that has the left freaking out:

The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"

FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)

Implying this wasn't done on purpose to troll the commies.

Posted by: DHS Iceback Queen at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (Q9ugn)

185
163 Just occurred to me. Since we Old Farts are all getting Social Security, which is money from the gummint, doesn't that mean we are employees? And therefore couldn't we fall under this wise and just rule?

are you starting a social security recipients' union?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (xGZ+b)

186 154
>>How come it is never Black male or hispanic male? I know. I know.







Seriously?!?

Posted by: Chiraq, every damn day at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (W+vEI)

Gosh I'm sorry. When was the last time I heard in any criminal description in the media "black" or "Hispanic"?
Oh I remember White Hispanic George Zimmerman.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (pw+jk)

187 oy vay I am so wasted

Posted by: Jewish fried chicken at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (UdKB7)

188 @166
Public Sector Unions should definitely be outlawed as they represent an unfair arrangement for transferal of taxpayer funds from bought and paid for politicians to unions who funnel a shit ton of back to the same politicians.
You have Unions and politicians on one side colluding on how much they can swindle from the taxpayers.
There is absolutely no taxpayer representation in any of these dealings.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (UfMVm)

189 Schnitzel...good stuff. Funny how Japanese katsu is very similar.

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (bUjCl)

190 New York Times: Say, Let's "Fix" the Janus Decision By Empowering the Government to Directly Thieve Money Away from Public Sector Employees' Checks, and Send That Stolen Money Straight to Unions

++++

Eugene Volokh put up the same idea yesterday.

https://reason.com/volokh/2018/06/
27/the-limited-effects-of-the-supreme-court

But, he fails to address the first problem in deciding to reduce the wages of the union workers. That is, UNION workers work under a contract. Their wages are already set in place. Nobody, not even the Legislature, can just reduce their wages in violation of their contract.

Of course, the government can try to negotiate lower wages in the next contract, but doesn't the government already try to do that? In theory, anyway.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (pvjTE)

191
Chris Matthews has lost his marbles over that one. He could stroke out.

Promises promises

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (IqV8l)

192 Look, the ruling did not abolish unions. It only stopped you from being forced to be in one. It now comes down to cost/benefit. If you are so worried about the above, join the union. If you're not, don't. This isn't Rocket Science.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (iJhFW)

-----

It was more than that. It stops Unions from being able to forcibly collect dues from non union employees, a law that had been in place for years because these employees " benefited" from Union negotiated work terms.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:46 PM (I16G8)

193
158 The H stands for Herschel.

wasn't he the guy who was around the corner from the burning bush in the noted documentary film Wholly Moses?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (xGZ+b)

194 I saw Jewish Fried Chicken in a double feature with The Rocky Horror Picture Show at the Roxy in '75.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (J7XgW)

195 In NJ, a kindergarten teacher can make 120k after 10 years. You think they'll stop paying NJEA dues with that kind of motivation?

Posted by: BluesFish at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (I4RKE)

196 189. Is the nearly universal presence of breaded fried meat dishes in fact an artifact of the cargo cults that developed at the time of the worldwide dominion of the Ancient Slavonaut demigods, who feasted on kotlyeti?
Ancient Slavonaut theorists say yes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (fA1SL)

197 Of course, the government can try to negotiate lower
wages in the next contract, but doesn't the government already try to
do that? In theory, anyway.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (pvjTE)

====
Oh you made me laugh and laugh and laugh...

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (pw+jk)

198 Now Juan wants to abolish ICE... these people are insane.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (PvFoN)

199 FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)


Leftists seem pretty well versed on white supremacy obscura. Almost as if the kkk and other white supremacist neo nazi groups were leftist organizations. Weird.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (wdmm9)

200 Check out this stunt of intellectual genius that has the left freaking out:

The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"

FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)



Oh my glockienspiel. Is this twitter or the left, including media? This is insanity land. I'm worried for them. This is what happens when people have been gaslit though. They do start to go crazy. They see conspiracy everywhere.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (Axa8z)

201 "Please Keep This In Mind: Municipalities, which are fiduciary spenders
for the taxpayer, are SUPPOSED to be on the OPPOSITE SIDE of the
Negotiating Table from the Unions, not in bed with them!"

^ This.

Which is why even talking about the government's collecting of union dues is a bracing breeze of the absurd reality of the true relationship (and why we have trillions of dollars of unfunded pension debt).

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (vJCwr)

202 I was a union member when I worked for UPI; we had to give up overtime...even lunch hour, for heaven's sake, and the Wire Service Workers Union did crap for us..but our union reps would visit our office on w. 34th st. twice a year. The guy had a custom made suit. The gal had a fur coat.

Posted by: vivi at June 28, 2018 07:49 PM (11H2y)

203 Huh...so thats where the term Jewish Lightning comes from.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)


No, that was pioneered by Elijah. Check out 2 Kings 1.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:49 PM (CPk08)

204 And those examples are just the illegal embezzlements. In Wisconsin before they changed the law some districts were buying the teachers health insurance from a union owned or at least union crony company. Not embezzlement but when the law changed the districts found better deals for health insurance. And then there are the fancy union clubs and so on for the upper levels of the unions. They give themselves a lot of $$ perks on the backs of the rank and file members as well as the PAC contributions. Its not like teachers now cannot donate to the NEA pac or directly to pols they like. Its just that the unions don't have the mandatory dues to throw at the Dem candidates.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (eASYU)

205 Is the nearly universal presence of breaded fried meat dishes in fact an artifact of the cargo cults that developed at the time of the worldwide dominion of the Ancient Slavonaut demigods, who feasted on kotlyeti?
Ancient Slavonaut theorists say yes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (fA1SL)

this theory need more archeo-culinary research...over vodka and vobla

Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (bUjCl)

206 I just watched a clip of that Samantha Bee Feckless C**t line. The audience actually laughed. There is no humour in that line, but the audience laughed.
I wouldn't laugh if the line was directed a leftist.
I might, possibly, agree with the sentiment. But I wouldn't laugh. IT IS NOT FUNNY.
Gah the world is stupid.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (nBr1j)

207 I went to my union rep and union headquarters. I was told I would have to hire an attorney because there was nothing the union could do because I was not facing disciplinary action. They could only help if I was.

My parents taught. My father, vice-presidentially, would NOT be in a room alone with a female student (or a group of them.)

Even if the union would have defended him from false harassment charges (unlikely), the accusation alone would have ended his career. And they would not have helped with any family-bankrupting civil charges.

The school did have female non-teaching employees to "help out" in class... that is, hang around so head-case female students couldn't just he-said/she-said a 'Mr. Jones touched my butt' if they didn't like their grades.

Posted by: mikeski at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (JGBbg)

208 Just saw another Florida man sighting.

Florida man dialing 911 while gasping the hood of a late model Mercedes being driven by his girlfriend.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (VgKNm)

209 182 We hit it with lightning...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (VM6ev)

Huh...so thats where the term Jewish Lightning comes from.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)


You should see what we can do with pot roast...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (VM6ev)

210
I was reading. The SJWs and abort crowd is going to go all out on the Kennedy seat. This is going to be worse than Bork, Clarence Thomas and all the others combined.

Now, the idiot Dems gave up the filibuster by filibustering Gorsuch, which didn't affect the balance of the Court. But their lunatic base demanded it.

So, now they can't filibuster, but their lunatic base is gonna demand they go balls to the wall, somehow.

Now, remember when the Wisconsin Dems fled the state to deny a quorum in the legislature?

Well, since McStain is not going to show up, we've only got 50 Reps. If all 49 Senate Dems were to go hide, then there would be majority for Constitutional quorum for the Senate to do business.

The question is does VP Mike Pence count for quorum purposes.

You may think that's nuts, they wouldn't dare do that. But you ain't seen nothing yet. Kennedy is the hill they're going to die on.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (8O3HH)

211 Heard a seminar caller on local radio today.
Busy telling the radio guy that:

1. There was absolutely no way that union dues would make it into the coffers of the DNC

2. This ruling would impact the DNC financially in a very bad way.


The radio host was kind enough to point out that the caller was contradicting himself.
And then hung up on him.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (EyPfd)

212 203 Huh...so thats where the term Jewish Lightning comes from.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)

No, that was pioneered by Elijah. Check out 2 Kings 1.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:49 PM (CPk0


Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)

213 205. Ancient Slavonaut theorists say yes

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (fA1SL)

214 As an independent Mason I can assure you that Union Masons are pussies.

Posted by: Dick at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (SRarZ)

215 You should see what we can do with pot roast...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (VM6ev)

JJ...LMAO.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (2CQCl)

216 Everything Democrats do is a pay for play vote getting scheme.

If we eliminated social welfare, they would cease to exist as a party. With no more money to hand out, constituencies like the Puerto Rican's in Florida would probably go home.

Posted by: Marcus T, Jambalaya at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (TpbP3)

217 Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)


I should hope so. We've been on it for millenia now.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (CPk08)

218 214. Scottish or York?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (fA1SL)

219

John McCain approves, then again, it could be the tumor talking.

MY PRECIOUS.

Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)

220 In NJ, a kindergarten teacher can make 120k after 10
years. You think they'll stop paying NJEA dues with that kind of
motivation?


Posted by: BluesFish at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (I4RKE)

=====
Now look at the work time put in and adjust. In the PRoC teachers work 180 days a year, sometimes less. A normal private sector might get 3 weeks vaco and two weeks holidays which works out to 47 weeks at 5 days a week or 235 days a year. 235/180 = 1.31 multiplier. So a private worker would have to earn $157,000 per year. How many private sector workers get that? A small percentage and I bet those are working 60-80 hour weeks.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (pw+jk)

221 They don't win the House in Nov., the lid is going to blow off.

IOW, the lid is going to blow off.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)


Yea, I don't know how they survive that. They are so unhinged, have dialed themselves and each other to defcon eleventy...and I don't know where all that hate and fear go? I guess violence.

Also, if new SCOTUS judge gets approved, there could be an explosion then. Chris Matthews has lost his marbles over that one. He could stroke out.


Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (Axa8z)


Shit, they are still in the denial stage of grief, not sure they have made it to the anger stage yet

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (M+Lyo)

222 Gah the world is stupid.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (nBr1j)

For many leftists- who are stupid, granted- they find titillation is being horse's asses. It is the fact she called her a feckless cunt *teeheehee*, don't you know?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (+xnSO)

223 219
John McCain approves, then again, it could be the tumor talking.

MY PRECIOUS.
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)

Posted by: John Mccain' at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (CPk08)

224
John McCain approves, then again, it could be the tumor talking.

MY PRECIOUS.
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)

That tutor must be visible from space now.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (nBr1j)

225 Lol @ a Harvard "Labor Expert".

Someone who most likely has never performed actual labor being an expert in the field.

Also this tells you everything you need to know about how catastrophic the decision is for these leeches. To come up with something desperate, it tells you the entire bomb load hit dead center.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (4ErVI)

226 I think half of the country is headed for a nervous breakdown. Half-joking. Think it will be violent too.

It's not a war...we got that wrong. They are having a collective nervous breakdown. I don't know what those look like, IRL, but it seems they are slowing reaching the apex of it.

When I look at the Unhinged ad, and now this abolish ICE, and take people's money, and all the other stuff. .. Nervous Breakdown.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (Axa8z)

227 Damn, now I'm stuttering....

Posted by: John McCain's Glioblastoma at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (CPk08)

228 The audience actually laughed. There is no humour in that line, but the audience laughed.
I wouldn't laugh if the line was directed a leftist.
I might, possibly, agree with the sentiment. But I wouldn't laugh. IT IS NOT FUNNY.

She is a "comedian" delivering a punchline. Most people will socially laugh at the appropriate timing of a punchline in a live show. Especially when the audience generally politically aligns with her and there is a giant red flashing light that says "laugh" and you have been told to laugh when the sign lights up.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (wdmm9)

229 224. Still think it is a con. He's trying to escape punishment.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (fA1SL)

230 225 Lol @ a Harvard "Labor Expert".

Someone who most likely has never performed actual labor being an expert in the field.

Also this tells you everything you need to know about how catastrophic the decision is for these leeches. To come up with something desperate, it tells you the entire bomb load hit dead center.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (4ErVI)


Wow. Just listened to Rush talking about an article that posits that every single financial, political, policy and military disaster was caused by Ivy League experts and their policies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (VM6ev)

231 Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)


Hey, JJ, with August coming up here in Kentucky *looks side to side* what would it take to give us some lower humidity? *slides a coupon face down across the table*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (+xnSO)

232 225 Lol @ a Harvard "Labor Expert".

Someone who most likely has never performed actual labor being an expert in the field.

Also this tells you everything you need to know about how catastrophic the decision is for these leeches. To come up with something desperate, it tells you the entire bomb load hit dead center.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (4ErVI)


I think the NYT got a bit confused about what labor meant and called an obstetrician by mistake.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (CPk08)

233 This was the argument/suggestion that Eugene Volokh made yesterday.

Posted by: Mark at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (KGGB2)

234 Unions exist to bugger the members.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (m/Gc2)

235 231 Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)


Hey, JJ, with August coming up here in Kentucky *looks side to side* what would it take to give us some lower humidity? *slides a coupon face down across the table*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (+xnSO)


5,000 gallons of Jacob Danielstein....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)

236 a law that had been in place for years because these employees " benefited" from Union negotiated work terms.

Yeah and that's basically true (to the extent the union did anything) but the problems started with the unions then taking that money and dumping it into the pockets of leftist politicians and activists.

Unions had two choices: stop doing that, or eventually a ruling like the one that just happened will strip them of cash.

They chose poorly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (39g3+)

237 Still think it is a con. He's trying to escape punishment.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (fA1SL)


What a silly idea.

Posted by: Rick Hendrick at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (DOpvX)

238 that its a semi-polite way of substituting for G-D and that whites picked craploads of cotton such as Johnny freaking Cash, but they had their narrative.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


But Johnny Cash was the man in black, you dogwhistling racist deplorable!

Posted by: the Left at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (JGBbg)

239 234 Unions exist to bugger the members.
Posted by: mr tmz at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (m/Gc2)


I think its members that do the buggering...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)

240 Abolish unions.

They are obsolete.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (EoRCO)

241 If we eliminated social welfare, they would cease to
exist as a party. With no more money to hand out, constituencies like
the Puerto Rican's in Florida would probably go home.

Posted by: Marcus T, Jambalaya at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (TpbP3)

It's even more insidious than that. They require a permanent underclass. If the poor were allowed to elevate themselves from poverty there'd be no reason for Democrats to exist at all. Housing projects and the welfare system keep people in poverty by design. Get a job or get married? Less benefits. Minorities find their own way out? Import more.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (rnXGe)

242 234 Unions exist to bugger the members.
Posted by: mr tmz at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (m/Gc2)


Yeah, well from where I'm sitting that sort of thing doesn't always work out so well for whoever is doing the buggering.

Posted by: John McCain's Glioblastoma at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (CPk08)

243 Leftists seem pretty well versed on white supremacy obscura.

I agree, they really know some arcane secrets of the white supremacist movement.

But... what's wrong with wanting to protect your kids? I mean, would they think this statement was a horrendous evil racist thing to say:

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Hispanic children."

or Black, or Asian, or whatever. Is that supremacist racism in action?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (39g3+)

244 5,000 gallons of Jacob Danielstein....


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)

Hah!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (+xnSO)

245 210
Now, remember when the Wisconsin Dems fled the state to deny a quorum in the legislature?

Well, since McStain is not going to show up, we've only got 50 Reps. If all 49 Senate Dems were to go hide, then there would be majority for Constitutional quorum for the Senate to do business.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (8O3HH)


If the Senate Dems flee the country to avoid a vote, can we revoke their passports?

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (sdi6R)

246 Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM


Meh. According to the highest source of truth, the CNN chyron yesterday, weather control is on the verge of being automated. First will come supplementation, & then replacement.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2018 07:59 PM (DMUuz)

247 Hi and howdy doody
I'm the union man
You can call me Rudy
Any you boys not paid up on your cards?

You know I'm pleased to meet ya
Been tryin' all day to reach ya
The union's here to help everyone of you
Rock and roll stars
Rock and roll stars

Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)

248 Meh. According to the highest source of truth, the CNN chyron yesterday, weather control is on the verge of being automated. First will come supplementation, & then replacement.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2018 07:59 PM (DMUuz)


And who is designing the microchips? Hm?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (CPk08)

249 238 that its a semi-polite way of substituting for G-D and that whites picked craploads of cotton such as Johnny freaking Cash, but they had their narrative.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

But Johnny Cash was the man in black, you dogwhistling racist deplorable!
Posted by: the Left at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (JGBbg)

...

I wondered aloud about this on an earlier thread.

My MIL has clear memories of riding on the sack while her mom dragged it through the fields, picking cotton.

For the last 150 years it's been something everybody does.

Maybe the black community has always considered this an insult and just never given notice anywhere that the news got to me, but I never considered that to be upsetting or offensive in any way.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (yL25O)

250 I was offered a state job today that would almost triple my current salary for less work/stress and I can retire in 10 years with $60k/yr for the rest of my life. Conflicted.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)

251 250 I was offered a state job today that would almost triple my current salary for less work/stress and I can retire in 10 years with $60k/yr for the rest of my life. Conflicted.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)


I'll take it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (VM6ev)

252 John McCain approves, then again, it could be the tumor talking.
MY PRECIOUS.
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)
That tutor must be visible from space now.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (nBr1j)

When he goes, and I hope it is very soon, that there tumor should be dug out of his ass, put in a glass container and appointed to his vacant seat.

Senator Tumor, from Arizona. Has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (EoRCO)

253 240 Abolish unions. They are obsolete.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (EoRCO)


No.

If I choose to bargain collectively ... I will.

Abolish some of their protections.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (DOpvX)

254 250. Conflicted? You mean like whether to break-dance or do a tap dance routine? That's a no-brainer otherwise.
Take. The. Money.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (fA1SL)

255 250 I was offered a state job today that would almost triple my current salary for less work/stress and I can retire in 10 years with $60k/yr for the rest of my life. Conflicted.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)

Would it be something you would enjoy/tolerate/not hate?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (+xnSO)

256 I was a union member when I worked for UPI; we had to give up
overtime...even lunch hour, for heaven's sake, and the Wire Service
Workers Union did crap for us..but our union reps would visit our office
on w. 34th st. twice a year. The guy had a custom made suit. The gal
had a fur coat.


First corporate job I ever had growing up was as a stocker in a department store back in the 70s. It was a union job (I forget which one). Union rep used to come by to glad hand everybody every couple of months. Drove a yellow El Dorado and had a diamond pinky ring the size of my fist.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (O5Q3r)

257 Brian....take it!

Posted by: lin-duh at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (kufk0)

258 Police update on now...

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (Enq6K)

259 It's supposed to be in the 90s for the next few days here, so I may have to unleash an antisemitic diatribe or two.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (sdi6R)

260 500+ (mostly women) arrested in Senate office bldg. today "protesting" "family separation" and calling for abolition of ICE.


No way this nonsense continues through the fall, but ....... would be awesome.


Problem remains: will a GOP House and enhanced GOP majority in the Senate actually ..... *do* anything?*


* "but judges" - the rational person's version of the N-Trumper psychos' "but Gorsuch"

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)

261 Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman
-------
Garbage Man?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (+ldAm)

262 When he goes, and I hope it is very soon, that there tumor should be dug out of his ass, put in a glass container and appointed to his vacant seat.

Senator Tumor, from Arizona. Has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (EoRCO)


We can name it "Chuck". Senator Chuck Tumor.

Hmmmm....

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (CPk08)

263 Wow. Just listened to Rush talking about an article that posits that every single financial, political, policy and military disaster was caused by Ivy League experts and their policies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (VM6ev)

Pretty much. Remember the Vietnam War Brain Trust? That went over really well.

You could go anywhere in the country and get someone who spent a few decades doing actual physical labor but got hurt and had to quit working and give them the title Harvard Labor Expert and the results would improve 100%

Their day would consist of sitting in classrooms and dissertation committee meetings literally saying, "You've never done this type of work before, have you?" after listening to two minutes of some budding "labor expert" with baby soft hands droning on about their research paper.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (4ErVI)

264 Maybe the black community has always considered this an insult and just never given notice anywhere that the news got to me, but I never considered that to be upsetting or offensive in any way.

I think its one of those urban/rural divide things, they have no context to think about it, haven't heard the term and went nuts screaming when they heard it the first time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)

265 Pretty certain that scheme "to just take union employee's money" would be considered a Bill of Attainder since it targets specific individuals rather than being a general tax. Of course, obeying U.S. Constitution is the least of the Lefties's concerns.

I don't think this Benjamin Sachs character has thought-through the ramifications of this one:

1) Donk politicians help themselves to employee's money
2) Piss off lots of formerly reliable Donk voters
3) ?

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (5Yee7)

266 39-yr old male (the shooter)

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (QDnY+)

267 5 fatalities and 2 minor injuries (from glass breaking)...in the process of securing shooters residence.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (Enq6K)

268 266 39-yr old male (the shooter)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (QDnY+)


Those 39 year olds! Buncha racists!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:04 PM (CPk08)

269 Shooter used smoke grenades...not IED's.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:04 PM (Enq6K)

270 Think about it for a second. Democrats funding had started to come from a more narrow set of donors less in touch with the average citizen and more aligned with extreme, narrow interests. It's generally Uber rich liberals.

Posted by: Marcus T, Jambalaya at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (TpbP3)

271 I'll take it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (VM6ev)

But realize if I do then it will be absolutely guaranteed for the public pension crisis to implode in exactly 10 years.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (rnXGe)

272 No.

If I choose to bargain collectively ... I will.

Abolish some of their protections.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (DOpvX)

I'd get rid of the government unions, but otherwise I agree. Many of the things we accept as basic work stuff were hard fought for. I make jokes about putting kids to work in coal mines and paying them with cartons of cigarettes, but really I don't want to see it happen.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (4ErVI)

273 Wasn't one of the other recent high-profile shooting incidents also done with a shotgun?


Shotgun bans soon in NJ, CA, NY, MA?


I'm so confusulated. I thought the AR platform was magically evil, "weapon of war", blah blah blah. If I were smarter I'd probably figure it all out.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (QDnY+)

274 267 5 fatalities and 2 minor injuries (from glass breaking)...in the process of securing shooters residence.
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (Enq6K)

So they know who he is- he melted his finger tips for nothing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (+xnSO)

275 The problem with unions today is that he pendulum swung from way over here

...where workers were just trash you replaced when they died from horrible working conditions while paying them pennies, which you then deduced 'expenses' from until they were in debt.

to here

...where unions crush companies by their tactics and increase the cost of living on everyone with exorbitant pay, benefits, and retirement packages all the while taking dues to funnel into leftist causes

We need the pendulum to stop wildly swaying and stabilize things. Unions and businesses, not so nuts either way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (39g3+)

276 I'd get rid of the government unions, but otherwise I agree. Many of the things we accept as basic work stuff were hard fought for. I make jokes about putting kids to work in coal mines and paying them with cartons of cigarettes, but really I don't want to see it happen.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (4ErVI)


I hope not. Shouldn't smoke in a coal mine.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (CPk08)

277 BTW, I would be all for a state, post this ruling, to decide to tax their citizens on behalf of unions, on behalf of one political party.

Please do this. Please also don't just tax the members of your state who belong to unions, either. Please tax everyone--I mean, they're Public Sector Unions, right? The whole Public benefits!

At the same time, please be sure to include raising taxes enough to covering the currently unfunded pensions for public sector union employees.

One tidy package.

We promise to resolutely uphold the principle of states rights in this matter. Pinky promise. Hell, we'll come applaud the signing of the bill.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (yL25O)

278 I'm so confusulated. I thought the AR platform was magically evil, "weapon of war", blah blah blah. If I were smarter I'd probably figure it all out.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (QDnY+)

They will smoothly segue over to saying all gun are inherently evil, don't you worry.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (+xnSO)

279 Visited Harvard last weekend. It was teaming with Chinese nationals with their noses pressed up against the glass.

Posted by: Regular joe at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (7PllL)

280 Conflicted.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)


Somebody will take that gig.

Stop being a dumb-ass ... and make sure that somebody is you.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DOpvX)

281 And who is designing the microchips? Hm?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM


And we appreciate it, round eye.

Posted by: China 2025 at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DMUuz)

282 Shooter is a resident of Maryland....can't confirm or deny any connection to Gazette.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (Enq6K)

283 Somebody will take that gig.

Stop being a dumb-ass ... and make sure that somebody is you.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DOpvX)


damn straight.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (CPk08)

284 But Johnny Cash was the man in black, you dogwhistling racist deplorable!
====================================

You killed Black Tom Cassidy, you racist bastard!

Posted by: theATL at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (yFgwo)

285 I hope not. Shouldn't smoke in a coal mine.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (CPk0

It's for the two hours off on Sundays.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (4ErVI)

286 Spokesman says he's heard nothing about facial recognition or fingerprints.

Sent threats through social media...

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (Enq6K)

287 I was in the laborers union when I was a lad. All they did was hire their relatives, buy fancy furniture and cars, and try to tell you who to vote for. They were also racist fuckers.

I just walked off the job one day and never came back.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (M+Lyo)

288 without further comment save for there should be purring in the audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLWMJORk_dA

Posted by: micky at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (dF9Lb)

289 Somebody will take that gig.

Stop being a dumb-ass ... and make sure that somebody is you.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DOpvX)

Scogg does speak wisdom here (I know, right?) You can always find another job if you hate it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (+xnSO)

290 261
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty
years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and
triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.



Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman

-------

Stormy Daniels?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (rnXGe)

291 Brian, take it!

Posted by: The Gimp with a 12 inch strap on at June 28, 2018 08:10 PM (Q9ugn)

292 I told my union job story yesterday, basically they exist just to squeeze money out of businesses until they move or die. That's it. Employees mean nothing, just money, money to enrich union bosses, money to buy property for the unions, money to pay leftist causes. You as a worker are just a means to that end.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:10 PM (39g3+)

293 First corporate job I ever had growing up was as a stocker in a department store back in the 70s. It was a union job (I forget which one). Union rep used to come by to glad hand everybody every couple of months. Drove a yellow El Dorado and had a diamond pinky ring the size of my fist.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (O5Q3r)

...

My FIL is/was a Teamsters politician.

Actually did time for embezzling from them.

Ended up getting re-elected. Did in fact straighten out. Ended up over two districts in the end, so gets a pension from both of them.

I'm not sure in my lifetime that my annual salary will ever rise to what that guy pulls down in retirement on two pensions.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (yL25O)

294 290 261
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty
years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and
triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.



Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman

-------

Stormy Daniels?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (rnXGe0


TBF, she's worked in any number of positions.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (CPk08)

295 Press is asking about the ability to not get his fingerprints. Spokesman says he has no knowledge of that being a problem.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (Enq6K)

296 The weird thing is that today's tech billionaires, who are pretty much all lefties, work their employees to the bone almost in the fashion of the evil capitalist factory and coal mine owners of the 1890s.

And the ones who are globalists don't seem to have a problem with outsourcing our manufacturing to China and other countries with no real labor laws. I remember about a Chinese company that makes electronics for the American market putting up nets on their building to keep employees from committing suicide.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (sdi6R)

297 No knowledge that shooter was targeting anyone specific at the newspaper.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:12 PM (Enq6K)

298 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:13 PM (+xnSO)

299 Maybe we could have the government directly pay for NRA memberships too!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 28, 2018 08:13 PM (hDNQh)

300 I think its one of those urban/rural divide things, they have no context to think about it, haven't heard the term and went nuts screaming when they heard it the first time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)

...

Fits the profile.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:14 PM (yL25O)

301 Screw law enforcement unions.

I've seen them fight tooth and nail alongside other state workers if anyone even talks about pension reforms.

I hope it withers and dies away.
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (uc45P)


Not always. Ohio did some pretty revisions to the Police & Fireman's Pension Fund a few years ago in order to make sure the fund stays viable. I personally lost my COLA for a few years.

I think Ohio did a good job of communicating to the public safety community the reasoning behind the revisions and got buy-in from most people affected.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 28, 2018 08:16 PM (5Yee7)

302 Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM



About that, where do I send complaints? Um, I mean compliments?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 08:16 PM (Axa8z)

303 @301 oops, that was supposed to be "pretty big revisions"

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 28, 2018 08:17 PM (5Yee7)

304 Scogg does speak wisdom here (I know, right?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (+xnSO)


I used to take a great deal of pleasure in saying I Told You So.

Turns out ... doing anything day after day after day gets boring.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:18 PM (DOpvX)

305 So the state would hand money to the unions and say, "Here, I'm paying you money to negotiate against me."

Fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Dang at June 28, 2018 08:28 PM (xHHR4)

306 Local teamster corruption in Belleville, IL

Posted by: Larry at June 28, 2018 08:35 PM (K6giM)

307
I was a union member when I worked for UPI; we had to give up
overtime...even lunch hour, for heaven's sake, and the Wire Service
Workers Union did crap for us..but our union reps would visit our office
on w. 34th st. twice a year. The guy had a custom made suit. The gal
had a fur coat.


First corporate job I ever had growing up was as a stocker in a department store back in the 70s. It was a union job (I forget which one). Union rep used to come by to glad hand everybody every couple of months. Drove a yellow El Dorado and had a diamond pinky ring the size of my fist.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (O5Q3r)









Had a sales guy working for our company a few years back who owned a Porsche, but whenever he did customer visits in the LA area where he lived, he'd either drive a rental or his wife's sensible mid-sized Toyota.

The LAST thing he wanted to convey to customers is that he was making boatloads of cash off of them. More than one salesperson in our industry made that mistake, driving expensive cars to customer locations.

Knew one of them who was enormously proud of his Dodge Viper (sweet ride, by the way). Nice guy, actually didn't need the sales job, he was loaded. And he lost a couple of customers when he cluelessly showed the Viper off.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 28, 2018 08:36 PM (eXA4G)

308 Feckless cunt!

I got a million of them!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 28, 2018 08:40 PM (sXefu)

309 It makes you wonder - if the unions just took the money from the members and invested it into a stock market index fund, couldn't they then use the earning of that fund to provide numerous, and ever increasing benefits to the workers? Like...I dunno...free health care for life? Paid vacations?
College tuition for the kids? Added pension benefits?

And wouldn't all those goodies then attract more people to join unions over time? And make unions more popular? And potentially reduce the cost of hiring union members to a employer, who might not have to provide those benefit gratis?

Instead they steal the money, or give it away to politicians, who blow it getting elected. No wonder it is a failed model.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 28, 2018 08:57 PM (fftfA)

310 Perhaps the government could assess taxes for my Sunday New York Times

... and that beach front property I have for sale in Albuquerque

Posted by: SMOD at June 28, 2018 09:11 PM (e8kgV)

311 How did this fucking loonie slip thru the cracks?

Only a complete madman alters his fingerprints thru pain and mutilation.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 09:13 PM (J7XgW)

312 We do union crime in Detroit far better than any of the pikers named in this post. The Chrysler UAW leadership and Chrysler management got together and looted $ 4.5 million from their 'National Training Center' over the last five years. The rank and file got screwed on their work shift hours in the last Chrysler contract as a direct result of this cupidity.
This thievery was facilitated through bogus personal 'charities' whose only charitable objects were the individual UAW fat cats in control. These personal 'charities' are very popular among union fat cats for the graft they deliver, surreptitiously.

This chicanery is also occurring at the Ford and GM UAW Departments. The UAW is so badly compromised that they will be unable to deliver the votes, in Michigan, in 2018. The rank and file is stone cold furious.

Posted by: 10x25mm at June 28, 2018 11:37 PM (Kz+di)

313 The New York Pravda wants the goverment to steal money from much needed Public needs like Cops and Firemen and give it to these already corupt Unions SCREW THE TEAMSTERS and the AFL/CIO

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 29, 2018 01:24 AM (FLiOE)

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