Top Senate Democrat Shoots Down Cruz's Proposal to End the Family Separation Democrats and the Media Supposedly Care So Much About, In Order to "Keep the Focus on Trump"

This, from @tedcruz, seems focused and precise. He's not seeking to leverage the plight of kids for some sort of grand legislative bargain. Here are the key points from his legislation. Objections? I'd like to hear them in the replies below: pic.twitter.com/lCkUNpnvup
— David French (@DavidAFrench) June 18, 2018

Top Senate Dem preemptively comes out against all GOP proposals on family separation issue. “Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.”

Rejecting compromise solutions looks cynical amid humanitarian crisis. Is this about the kids, or Trump? https://t.co/y0oom8ayYH
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) June 19, 2018

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:07 PM

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1 Nothing wrong with Senate Democrats that good people can't fix with their hands.

Posted by: sven at June 19, 2018 07:09 PM (SzZnW)

2 Excellent! Compromises suck anyway. Chuck Schumer finally does something useful.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 19, 2018 07:10 PM (pvjTE)

3 Ted Cruz points out the hypocrisy of the left and shows how they are using kids a propped in one bill.

He knew they would do this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:10 PM (fceHP)

4 Sure keep the focus on Trump because he hasn't already called out the commiecrats for being obstructionists and not wanting a solution.

Keep the focus on him so he can get on his bully pulpit and speechify about how you proved him right.

Are the dems getting help drawing up plays from the GOPes?

Posted by: kallisto at June 19, 2018 07:10 PM (kD8Fh)

5 Ted is a textbook Magnificent Bastard.

Posted by: reason at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (CGjum)

6 David French? I'll wait to hear what Bill Kristol has to say.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (ptqGC)

7

Looks vaguely familiar to when Trump proposed 2 times the DACA kids, or whatever the insane number was.

Proved, without a doubt how much the Democrats cared about them too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (fceHP)

8 Couple of days and this will die out.
Given that The Hill is stating "about the kids or Trump" - MSM will have to give it focus as long as R's point to it when asked.
Hell, who am I kidding. . . .we're screwed.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (q1VoB)

9 That level of trollery is Trumpianlike.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (++G28)

10 3 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:10 PM (fceHP)

They are not a hard read, it is more like "See Spot Run" not like say "The Gulag Archipelago"...

Posted by: sven at June 19, 2018 07:12 PM (SzZnW)

11 I want a bill that says every illegal who includes a child in the commission of a crime (coming to the US illegally) gets an additional 30 days in jail.

Wouldn't that be more humane? It would disincentivize this behavior.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 19, 2018 07:12 PM (F5+ro)

12 They want to keep the focus on Trump?

Is that wise? Or are they secretly pro-Trump moles?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:12 PM (YqDXo)

13 it's weird, how does the senate work when the minority party can shoot down bills?

I guess it's part of our two-class system.

Donks can stop bills, GOP can't stop or start bills.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 19, 2018 07:12 PM (FOPyv)

14 6 Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (ptqGC)

"The" Rick Wilson would have opined but he has Chuck Schumer's duck in his mouth.

Posted by: sven at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (SzZnW)

15

Trump's Katrina

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (h/tJC)

16 Ted is a textbook Magnificent Bastard.
Posted by: reason at June 19, 2018 07:11 PM (CGjum)

I was hoping for the M.B. to come out. He's that smart and cunning when he wants to be. Not good socially and not so good at giving out the warm and fuzzies that LIV want. But he can think strategically.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (fceHP)

17 lols, though, what a wet sad fart ending to all this dnc alinsky outraging

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (FOPyv)

18 13 Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 19, 2018 07:12 PM (FOPyv)

That's the patented Mooch MacDonald "go behind."

Posted by: sven at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (SzZnW)

19
But Trump ain't that little cocksucker Bush.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (h/tJC)

20 No more Croat Twitter?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (UiRxW)

21 Duck, duck...Goose!

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (tQASX)

22 Dems being Dems just might be what we needed.

No way the majors are going to play Schumer's words against him.

It's going to have to be Fox.

Posted by: Axeman at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (vDqXW)

23 19 Point of fact, the Iron Cross is from Prussia. Even the Swastika is an old symbol but will forever be associated with the National SOCIALIST Workers Party.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 05:14 PM (pw+jk)

You need 60 votes for cloture.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (F5+ro)

24 Schemer demanding that Trump violate the law and his oath.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (bkV+o)

25 "That level of trollery is Trumpianlike."

ted pisses off hate filled libs so much because ted demaands to be treated as human when the left is used to cuck gOP types allowing the left to do so.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (FOPyv)

26 1 Nothing wrong with Senate Democrats that good people can't fix with their hands.

Posted by: sven at June 19, 2018 07:09 PM (SzZnW)

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IS THAT A THREAT OF VIOLENCE?

WE CANNOT STAND FOR THIS.

Posted by: #Occupy Twitter Feed at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (CGjum)

27 My hindquarters cannot stand another Uni party compromise. Glad Scheemer killed it.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (r9UYA)

28 These poor immigrants are welcome in Brattleboro. To fix this problem we will raise taxes on persons of no coler. Solved !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (qM84C)

29 Trump needs to do a speech tomorrow night outlining a legislative solution.

And then let Schumer squirm.

POTUS can get exclusive air time. Senate leaders? Not so much.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (EV0ql)

30 WTF is David French, and why should I care?

Shouldn't he be surrendering to someone?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (YqDXo)

31 Don't want "family separation"?
Stay your asses in May Hee Ko!

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (ItyGR)

32 15 Trump's Katrina
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (h/tJC)

Considering we Jooz control the weather, look on that as a good thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (VM6ev)

33 What lever can I pull to not be governed by children?

Posted by: goodluckduck at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (rwaEp)

34 26 Posted by: #Occupy Twitter Feed at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (CGjum)

I was offering to redo their drywall...

Posted by: sven at June 19, 2018 07:15 PM (SzZnW)

35 In fairness, I don't give a sh*t about the illegals or their kids either.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 07:15 PM (VgKNm)

36 But he can think strategically.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (fceHP)
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I supported TC until Trump dropped his ass.

But, the thing I liked about Cruz, is the same thing I disliked about Cruz: He is a cold-blooded, calculating snake of a man.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:15 PM (UiRxW)

37 It's almost like it's a manufactured crisis and the Democrats don't actually give a damn about anything but using it as an issue to gain power.

Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 07:16 PM (lKs2v)

38 Ted Cruz points out the hypocrisy of the left and shows how they are using kids a propped in one bill.

He knew they would do this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Bingo!

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:16 PM (3/uST)

39 Kabuki theater by the Dems. Nothing more.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 19, 2018 07:16 PM (gA69l)

40 So is Schumer blaming Trump for Schumer voting for this shit during the Bush Administration? Just making sure I have that straight.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 19, 2018 07:17 PM (+GTad)

41

Well, a good move to end the day and bring a smile to the face.

The proverbial middle finger, Cruz missile launched.

Schumer can't compete.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:17 PM (fceHP)

42
Incredibly, Schemer and the Dems are falling into a petard of their own foisting.

They could get half a loaf and perhaps have PDT sign on to it. But their hatred for him is so strong they can't see it and, please G-d, the clock will run out on this before the next legislative session seats more pro-Trump politicians in both houses.

Amazing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 07:17 PM (VM6ev)

43 They need a rotating door at the border. Walk thru and you're spun around and walk back into mexico.

Just shut the damn border down.

Put some jersey barriers up and tell them all to go back home.

Only those with US ID can get back in.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:17 PM (bkV+o)

44 So Cruz embarrasses Kimmel on the court, then embarrasses the rest of the Democrats with this ploy. Of course, not that anyone will report on the Democrats' hypocrisy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 19, 2018 07:18 PM (gA69l)

45 He's all cattle, no hat! No...wait!

Posted by: Chucky Schumer at June 19, 2018 07:18 PM (O5Q3r)

46 30 WTF is David French, and why should I care?

Shouldn't he be surrendering his wife to someone?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:14 PM (YqDXo)

FTFY

Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 07:18 PM (lKs2v)

47 Rejecting compromise solutions looks cynical amid humanitarian crisis. Is this about the kids, or Trump?

Trump. It's about Trump.

A lot of citizens don't realize that. They do care for the children, but the Resistance (that big glob of entities) are exploiting these children for their own agenda.

Because that is what they do. It's evil. Using innocents is evil in my book. These children, toddlers, babies, are innocents. To the Resistance leaders, they are but pawns on a chessboard.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:18 PM (tQASX)

48 Name 1 just 1 problems Progs have tried to fix in 57 (my age) years.

Taxes Forced Bush I to raise them Clinton raised them. BHussein.

SS Reagan and Newt forced thru a patch

Dems never passed a budget since 2010.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 19, 2018 07:19 PM (JFO2v)

49 Mutton dressed as lamb.

That's older ladies who dress like teenaged girls.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 19, 2018 07:19 PM (2NqXo)

50 I was hoping for the M.B. to come out. He's that smart and cunning when he wants to be. Not good socially and not so good at giving out the warm and fuzzies that LIV want. But he can think strategically.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2018 07:13 PM (fceHP)

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Ted's main flaw here is that he separates the "shot" and the "chaser" by more time than he should.

He put out the whole "This is an outrage and his has to stop NOW!" bit, what, this morning? Yesterday evening? I don't know.

Far too much time for the ForeverTrumpers to dance around their bonfires with glee over how awful a President he would have been and how they just KNEW that weasel could never be trusted.

Then he finally plays the rest of his hand.

Posted by: reason at June 19, 2018 07:19 PM (CGjum)

51 Rejecting compromise solutions looks cynical amid humanitarian crisis. Is this about the kids, or Trump?

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This is a trick question, right?

Posted by: ShainS at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (6kTDT)

52 Times of Israel - US quits the UN's Human Rights Council, citing its 'chronic bias against Israel' / Haley calls global body 'a cesspool of political bias'

That seems a little harsh... on cesspools.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (6FqZa)

53 I don't have a cite, but I heard someone on the radio say that Schumer wants Trump to issue an executive order of some sort. Maybe the idea is to trick him into doing something impeachable? I don't know.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

54 If the Jooz didn't control the weather it would rain in Arabia.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (3/uST)

55 Well, I do like the "immediately returned to their home countries" part.
So there's that.

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (HgMAr)

56 Symbols don't make an ideology or a religion.

How you act and what you say and the results make an ideology.

The jews would still be jews without the Star of David.

The Nazis would still be Nazis if they used a triangle.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (bkV+o)

57 On FBN, Trump says he wants congress to legislate a way to keep families together while they are all deported.
My God, I have a wet spot on the front of my shorts.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (pw+jk)

58 These people from all these Central American countries that have a GDP of .04% that are sending these kids that equate to $ 35,000 a year of mine and your money, and still get another 100 million in foreign aid assistance.

Fuck that , I'm ready to invade Honduras and for 100mill a year that shithole will turn into a paradise.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (7028f)

59 You mean the Democrats are disingenuous??

No. F**king. Way.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (20X6f)

60
Wars get started when the leaders of both sides believe they can win.

Schumer and the democrats think they are winning on this issue.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (roQNm)

61 35 In fairness, I don't give a sh*t about the illegals or their kids either.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 07:15 PM (VgKNm)

Not me.

I care about them exactly as much as they care about me and my kids.

Same thing with the polar bears. And their kids.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (YqDXo)

62 @ J.J. Sefton...

Good sir, do kindly go to the previous thread, #365, where I expanded upon your comment.

I think you'll appreciate it.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (p7zrD)

63 FFS, there is no aspect of this that approaches being a "humanitarian crisis" - except for the criminal actions of Mexico, Guatemala, and others in permitting the dangerous transit of migrants who have no legal basis to enter the US.

"The kids" are a handful, they are not separated permanently or even for very long from their parents, and their health and physical safety and excellent treatment are not in question (I believe a group of them in the San Diego area recently did a "field trip" to the SD Zoo - Gen. Hayden to the courtesy Holocaust Shitposter phone, Gen. Hayden to the courtesy Holocaust Shitposter phone).

Unless DHS and everyone else has been misinforming me, the (bogus, ridiculous) asylum seekers arriving at ports of entry do *NOT* face family separation - only the illegal border crossers. So Cruz is fixing something that ain't broken (insofar as we're talking asylum category). Expediting asylum processing is fine - but make it 7 days.

And FFS, if there's any legal bar to it, also fix the inability of BP to *immediately* deport all illegal border crossers (I don't think there is, I should know).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (QDnY+)

64
I'd laugh my ass off if President Trump just closed the border and turned everyone away.

He's be perfectly justified if he did and I think a majority of us would back that effort.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (HaL55)

65 Schumer is an evil soul.

I've always known it.

Posted by: eleven at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (+lOpA)

66 Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (3/uST)

Probably frogs though.

You can't take weather control from the Jews.

God said they are the choosy people. Right?

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (bkV+o)

67 It's almost like it's a manufactured crisis and the Democrats don't actually give a damn about anything but using it as an issue to gain power.

Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 07:16 PM (lKs2v)

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NONSENSE. THEY SAY THEY LOVE ME AND I BELIEVE THEM!

Posted by: David Hogg at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (CGjum)

68 Who was the concern troll yesterday saying that Cruz was selling us out??????

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (kufk0)

69 Schumer and the democrats think they are winning on this issue.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (roQNm)

They thought they were winning on November 9, 2016, too. Also they thought they were winning with Stormy Daniels, and Russia collusion, but you notice we're not hearing squat about those now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:23 PM (YqDXo)

70 I thought that Ted Cruz actually offered a proposal was awesome. I know the commenters on that thread below this one didn't like Cruz's emoting (and I'm sympathetic to that he sounds phony when he does it) but when Cruz emotes, he usually has some policies to back it up.

I'm on Team Gumdrop Gorilla on this one. Well done, Rafael Junior.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:23 PM (6FqZa)

71 If Trump caved on "policy" as they want, he would be breaking the law.

Maybe they would use that to start impeachment proceedings.

Little conspiracy theory.

Posted by: YodaCon at June 19, 2018 07:23 PM (EX284)

72 It's disgraceful that we separate these children from their traffickers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (oVJmc)

73 Chuck U Shoomer.

Been stealing since he could crawl.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (EoRCO)

74 "22 Dems being Dems just might be what we needed.

No way the majors are going to play Schumer's words against him.

It's going to have to be Fox."

Right. Stormy is about to get another 15 minutes and this story is headed for the memoryhole now. The cucks also will try to help it disappear. But, Trump. He probably will tweet about Democrat inaction FOR THE CHILDREN from time to time.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (u6lQq)

75 Nicely done dems. You just sealed your fate in November and beyond.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (dUJdY)

76 Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

That's essentially what he said.

Said Trump could solve this "Crisis" with a pen.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (bkV+o)

77 I'm sympathetic to that he sounds phony when he does it
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Of course he does. Cruz is an emotionless robot. I can appreciate it, in this instance, though. Good on 'im.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (UiRxW)

78 DO you heartless people not understand that there are 2000 separated children!!!
2000!!!!!
I SAID 2000!!
We must fuck 330,000,000 American legal citizens for 2,000. FUCK THEM!!!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (pw+jk)

79 Fuck that , I'm ready to invade Honduras and for 100mill a year that shithole will turn into a paradise.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:21 PM (7028f)

I've thought that about Somalia under new management. If the Israelis took it over and ran it, and used the present residents as domestic help, it'd be a vacation hotspot for all of Europe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (YqDXo)

80 On FBN, Trump says he wants congress to legislate a way to keep families together while they are all deported.

Duct tape.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (ItyGR)

81 Proof that it was never about the kids. Schumer just made it obvious that the Dems don't give a flying fuck about the kids.

Posted by: Guzalot at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (schB/)

82 Isn't it legal to punch Chuck in the mouth everytime you see him. If not it should be.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (eAMlh)

83 Cruz concern trolls everywhere yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (3/uST)

84 Anyone watching that melodramatic, grandstanding rat-turd on FOXNews?

"How dare you !!!!"

hahahha

Posted by: franksalterego at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (3cq8T)

85 77 I'm sympathetic to that he sounds phony when he does it
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Of course he does. Cruz is an emotionless robot. I can appreciate it, in this instance, though. Good on 'im.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (UiRxW)

Asperger's isn't confined to STEM guys, ya know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (YqDXo)

86 the whole Schumer family seems over-endowed in arrogance and under-endowed in brains. And they're ugly, too.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:26 PM (6FqZa)

87

President Trump should say: We wouldn't have to deport them if we keep them out of the USA in the first place!

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:26 PM (h/tJC)

88 Nicely done dems. You just sealed your fate in November and beyond.

Whoa there m'lady. You ain't seen nothin yet.

Posted by: GOPe Fucksticks at June 19, 2018 07:26 PM (qWg0i)

89 It's nice that 48 hours after I started trying to tell people that Cruz's proposal was a damn good proposal that solves the problem without giving anything away, finally people are starting to realize that Cruz's proposal is a damn good one that solves the problem without giving anything away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 07:26 PM (k1TUh)

90 Isn't it legal to punch Chuck in the mouth everytime you see him. If not it should be.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (eAMlh)
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I will circulate the petition for the "Chin-Check Chuck Act" (CCCA) of 2018.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:26 PM (UiRxW)

91 Who was the concern troll yesterday saying that Cruz was selling us out??????

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (kufk0)
why would people think he would? If anything he is proving the Dems just want a political cudgel. They might accidentally help people with a policy, but even that is questionable. They are all about winning and tearing down. this is pretty standard stuff.

Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (n13/j)

92 I want a bill that says every illegal who includes a child in the commission of a crime (coming to the US illegally) gets an additional 30 days in jail.

Wouldn't that be more humane? It would disincentivize this behavior.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

I'd rather the GOP would finally fucking see fit to kill all welfare for illegals.

Why in hell is that still a fucking thing? Why?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (zfrbv)

93 Stormy is about to get another 15 minutes

.... on the pole.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (6FqZa)

94
Duct tape.

This is the crux of the biscuit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (HaL55)

95 "57 On FBN, Trump says he wants congress to legislate a way to keep families together while they are all deported.
My God, I have a wet spot on the front of my shorts."

Trump may be the last flickering light as darkness descends on the Empire, but, damn, if that proves to be the case the final act has been a thing to behold.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (u6lQq)

96 72 It's disgraceful that we separate these children from their traffickers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (oVJmc)

If we send the kids and the "parents" back, do the "parents" get back their deposit on "their kids?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (YqDXo)

97 They really want to keep the focus on Trump? They have not learned anything from the election season and events that unfolded afterwards, have they?

Posted by: IC at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (a0IVu)

98 Why do we allow the IRS to facilitate ID fraud of illegals, to begin with?

WTFC@##!!!!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (zfrbv)

99
It'd be hilarious to go on twitter and post instructions on how to tear out the heart of Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (h/tJC)

100 If the Jooz didn't control the weather it would rain in Arabia.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (3/uST)

So the Jooz are controlling the weather and the Russians are controlling my gophers.
I knew Trump would be a disaster.

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (HgMAr)

101 Cruz just pulled a Trump move. Maybe the young Padawan is learning from the Master.

Posted by: RI Red at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (7TdmM)

102 finally people are starting to realize that Cruz's proposal is a damn good one that solves the problem without giving anything away.

Posted by: Tom Servo

Ya' don't know what you've got till it's gone...
they...

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (3/uST)

103 I'd rather the GOP would finally fucking see fit to kill all welfare for illegals.

Why in hell is that still a fucking thing? Why?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (zfrbv)

And then limit welfare for citizens to, say, five years' worth in total.

After that, you're on your own, for better or worse. No more of this five generations on welfare shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (YqDXo)

104 I am still thinking D's don't want a solution which would lose them a big stick and drum to beat on. Continuing confusion is their best hope.

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (pHfeF)

105 Tom Servo is one of the least Schumerey commenters on this blog. If you disagree with him you should probably do some research before posting a rebuttal

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (6FqZa)

106 Keep your family together, Don't break the law. Amazing how the despots in these South American shitholes can uphold their own rule of law. Oh, don't like it your DEAD.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (7028f)

107 "Double the number of immigration judges. "

No thank you.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (ItyGR)

108 The Jews can't make it rain in Israel FFS.

Posted by: eleven at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (+lOpA)

109

It'd be hilarious to go on twitter and post instructions on how to tear out the heart of Chuck Schumer.

Objection, Your Honor. The question assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (HaL55)

110 57 On FBN, Trump says he wants congress to legislate a way to keep families together while they are all deported.
My God, I have a wet spot on the front of my shorts.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unseriou

Work? You want us to work? Trump is a NAZIRUSKIETRAITOR!!!!! {weeps in a corner, silently masturbating}

Posted by: Congress CrapWeasals at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (20X6f)

111 Times of Israel - US quits the UN's Human Rights Council, citing its 'chronic bias against Israel' / Haley calls global body 'a cesspool of political bias'

That seems a little harsh... on cesspools.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:20 PM (6FqZa)

What in the UN is not corrupt and useless anymore? During the migrant crisis in EU, they utterly failed women. There was a US rep that excoriated them for it too. All these organizations do is criticize others for not doing what they themselves are supposed to be doing.

Plus, we know UN forces did unspeakable things. Keep the UN so leaders can talk and meet...but that is it. Pull our money. It is being misused. The UN has become a lumbering wooly mammoth that vacuums up money.

Seriously, when Angelina Jolie was appointed to the UN High Commission...well...it was appalling. Not a slam against her, but was there really not someone more educated and deserving? Then, they wanted to appoint Idi Amin to some position. The whole thing is a joke.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (tQASX)

112
I have an ideer!

Let's build a giant "facility" in Mexico to store all these "families."

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (h/tJC)

113 Cruz IS one of my senators. He is the one I actually get to vote for instead of voting for the lesser evil like in Cornyn's case.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (kufk0)

114 80 On FBN, Trump says he wants congress to legislate a way to keep families together while they are all deported.

Duct tape.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (ItyGR)

Velcro.

Made in big, beautiful American factories!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (4ErVI)

115 It'd be hilarious to go on twitter and post instructions on how to tear out the heart of Chuck Schumer.

"First, find some goggles with telescopic lenses..."

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (6FqZa)

116 It'd be hilarious to go on twitter and post instructions on how to tear out the heart of Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:28 PM (h/tJC)
.............

You'd need a RockBuster R100.

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2018 07:30 PM (HgMAr)

117 Well surprise surprise surprise NOT.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 19, 2018 07:30 PM (eASYU)

118 On FBN, Trump says he wants congress to legislate a way to keep families together while they are all deported.

Duct tape.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (ItyGR)

--------------

How about those smart-watch wristbands that Disneyworld uses?

Aww, the light on the door that leads to San Diego beeped twice and the light turned red. Go try the door that leads to TJ!

Posted by: David Hogg at June 19, 2018 07:30 PM (CGjum)

119 Authorize new temporary shelters that will keep families blah blah...

And who will pay for these luxury townhomes?
a) youb) mec) All US taxpayersd) all of the above

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:30 PM (ItyGR)

120 Everyone scrambling to do something for the poor poor illegal immigrant kids shows what they really care about, their image. Those kids have got it made compared to where they came from. Maybe when they go back they will grow up to make their own country like the one they got a taste of for a few days.

Posted by: f'd at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (UdKB7)

121 Somebody 'splain me why Schumer wants Trump to 'change it with his pen'?

I thought Chucky hated that.

Posted by: Tami at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (Enq6K)

122 The Jews can't make it rain in Israel FFS.

Posted by: eleven at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (+lOpA)

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That's just what they WANT you to believe!

Posted by: Alex Jones at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (CGjum)

123 The Jews can't make it rain in Israel FFS.

Posted by: eleven <<<

It's a faint.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (3/uST)

124 ..."Double the number of immigration judges."

I'm for it.

I hereby nominate Teh Horde en masse as said new Immigration Judges.

Can I get a second to the motion?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (p7zrD)

125 I'm still surprised that the US quitting the UN Human Rights Council didn't rate a flaming skull.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (sdi6R)

126 Posted by: eleven at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (+lOpA)

Whats the old joke? Take 4 jews and have them discuss a topic and you'll have 5 different opinions.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (bkV+o)

127

Milton Berle said: "You can have open borders or you can have a welfare state. But you cannot have both."

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (h/tJC)

128 I second that motion!

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (kufk0)

129 Trump may be the last flickering light as darkness descends on the Empire,

It's not exactly a blessing, to see what's coming.

Posted by: Tar-Palantir of Numenor at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (6FqZa)

130 I have an ideer!

Let's build a giant "facility" in Mexico to store all these "families."

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (h/tJC)

Let's call it Mexico City.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (T71PA)

131 Format WTF???
Try again :

Authorize new temporary shelters that will keep families blah blah...

And who will pay for these luxury townhomes?
a) you
b) me
c) All US taxpayers
d) all of the above

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (ItyGR)

132 feint

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (3/uST)

133 We'll only get the flaming skull when the US drops out of the UN.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (bkV+o)

134 Schumer comes out in favor of:

PERMANENT CONCENTRATION CAMPZ 4 KIDZ!!!!!!

Good to know.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (O033+)

135 He put out the whole "This is an outrage and his has to stop NOW!" bit, what, this morning? Yesterday evening? I don't know.

He also overstated his position (not a good sign for a lawyer).

He should have channeled the Eurofags and "expressed his deep concern," i.e., made a totally vapid and meaningless statement kinda sorta supporting the Reds, but a statement that would be pointless to quote. THEN snapped the trap shut.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (YqDXo)

136 Has anyone asked Senator Menendez what he thinks about all of this? Or Jeffery Epstein? Vicente Fox weighed in on that migrant train that kills or maims kids as the transit Mexico? Any concern about those kids getting raped, abducted, abused and sold into slavery as domestic workers or culled as Nexium alcolytes?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (qWg0i)

137 So. We gonna take this shit?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM (Y9uH4)

138 Cruz IS one of my senators. He is the one I actually get to vote for instead of voting for the lesser evil like in Cornyn's case.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (kufk0)

-----------

Beet's been kinda quiet about this whole thing as far as I can tell... Too busy working out strategy with Loopy Valdez? Who knows where he is...

Posted by: reason at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (CGjum)

139 Good, let the Dems reject all proposals out of hand; shows exactly what they're about on this.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (H5knJ)

140
Let's call it Mexico City.

Brilliant!

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (h/tJC)

141 OK so it's the Russians controlling the weather and the Jooz controlling my gophers?

Posted by: wth at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (HgMAr)

142 I'm sympathetic to that he sounds phony when he does it

----

Of course he does. Cruz is an emotionless robot. I can appreciate it, in this instance, though. Good on 'im.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:24 PM (UiRxW)

Asperger's isn't confined to STEM guys, ya know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:25 PM (YqDXo)

I think the meme of Cruz as robotic and boring is weak. He is actually pretty funny and innovative. Does he not make some great jokes/burns on twitter? Did he not to school that Kimmel jerk? Did he not have by far the best commercial in the 20016 primaries?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY

Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (n13/j)

143 Cruz knows exactly what he is doing.

In other fun news, I just told my ex-boss that I absolutely do not recommend he promote a useless passive-aggressive idiot to a supervisory position (that she thinks she is already in but is wrong) so knowing my place of employment...she'll probably get promoted and I'll get demoted.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (SRarZ)

144 Somebody 'splain me why Schumer wants Trump to 'change it with his pen'?

--

One, it would validate what Obama did with his pen and 'phone when he specified that prosecutors use their own discretion on charging illegals with violations of law.

Two, Schumer says Obama could do it, therefore Trump could do it also, but Trump doesn't do it so Trump is the bad guy.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 19, 2018 07:33 PM (roQNm)

145 We need to deport all the illegal invading chilluns so we can find out what's in them.

Posted by: UberRich Nancy Pelosi at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (EoRCO)

146 Still not sure why I as an engineer cannot be an immigration judge.

I would be fair and compassionate before deporting them. Some by helicopter, some by bus.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (pw+jk)

147 I hereby nominate Teh Horde en masse as said new Immigration Judges.

Can I get a second to the motion?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (p7zrD)

I nominate the

Trump!
Trump!
Trump!
Deport!
Deport!
Deport!

guy.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (T71PA)

148 It's nice that 48 hours after I started trying to tell people that Cruz's proposal was a damn good proposal that solves the problem without giving anything away, finally people are starting to realize that Cruz's proposal is a damn good one that solves the problem without giving anything away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 07:26 PM (k1TUh)

Yea, but I think Ben Had made a very valid point about using the word "asylum". He was right. Get that word outta there. He outlined the benefits under asylum, the money, housing et.al. They basically turn us into citizens funding royalty.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (tQASX)

149 Cruz IS one of my senators. He is the one I actually get to vote for
instead of voting for the lesser evil like in Cornyn's case.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (kufk0)

I simply don't vote for Cornyn.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (SRarZ)

150 I thought you said Cornyn's disease.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (3/uST)

151 I think Schumer should just be called Chuck Schemer all the time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2018 07:35 PM (O5K3f)

152 Trump is going to leverage this right after the Red Wave destroys the Left in November to get The Wall built in like 90 days.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 19, 2018 07:35 PM (O033+)

153 Is Beto really that popular a nickname for Roberto?

I've never heard spanish speakers use it.

sounds like a sex toy lube.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:35 PM (bkV+o)

154 120 Everyone scrambling to do something for the poor poor illegal immigrant kids shows what they really care about, their image. Those kids have got it made compared to where they came from. Maybe when they go back they will grow up to make their own country like the one they got a taste of for a few days.
Posted by: f'd at June 19, 2018 07:31 PM (UdKB7)

It'd be like the video Trump showed Kim.

"See, this is what your country could look like, if you guys didn't have your heads up your asses. So roll up your sleeves, and get cracking! You need the rule of law, property rights, governmental transparency, fiscal probity etc. You know, the stuff we're losing here now, but that we used to have."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:35 PM (YqDXo)

155 I want them in cages and on camera! for the children.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, Hillary etc.., at June 19, 2018 07:35 PM (EglZt)

156 Just to be fair, the Horde's immigration judges should be legally naturalised excuse me, naturalized citizens.

*cracks knuckles*

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (6FqZa)

157 And this is how you fight back. Looks like Sen. Cruz understands the Golden Scalp Weasel: Do not fight them on their ground, fight them on yours.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (0QYMt)

158 I am so sick and tired of this orchestrated BS. You know who separated 80 some per cent of this kids from their parents...hold on...their PARENTS.

The media claim 70% of the public is against this policy. Well, first of all the polls lie and secondly the media misrepresents everything. It's all BS.

That douche Zac on Fox claims nursing babies were taken from their mothers. OK, how many? And whose fault was that? Maybe nursing mothers.

F!@# this BS.

Posted by: Farmer at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (yJ1e6)

159 canned hate, "immigration judges" are administrative, part of the non-judicial separate system that administers immigration cases. They're not "judges" (!) as we have come to know them on the federal bench - i.e. lawless economically illiterate legislators with authoritarian instincts.

And "temporary" shelters has a nice, disastrously dishonest ring to it, doesn't it??

Border barriers and asylum applications only at US missions abroad are the actual answers here. Not that the "question" (a handful of kids temporarily separated from families) even rises to the category of urgent. It isn't. Sort of why it's been happening for years and nobody's hair caught fire.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (QDnY+)

160 146 Still not sure why I as an engineer cannot be an immigration judge.

I would be fair and compassionate before deporting them. Some by helicopter, some by bus.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:34 PM (pw+jk)

Engineer? What, no trebuchet? I was told we'd have trebuchets!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (YqDXo)

161 The real shame of it is, many of these kids being exploited by human traffickers, are now being exploited by progressives for political gain.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (wdmm9)

162 We'll only get the flaming skull when the US drops out of the UN.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:32 PM

I want the UN to drop out of the US. Let 'em set up shop in Kinshasa or Lagos.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (2NqXo)

163 in 'Schumer', the h is silent. so's the '-er'

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (6FqZa)

164 Trump should do more to shame Mexico as a country for this "crisis".

It's ironic that this is America's problem when they're Mexicans.

Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:37 PM (lKmt3)

165 136 Has anyone asked Senator Menendez what he thinks about all of this? Or Jeffery Epstein? Vicente Fox weighed in on that migrant train that kills or maims kids as the transit Mexico? Any concern about those kids getting raped, abducted, abused and sold into slavery as domestic workers or culled as Nexium alcolytes?

Yeah, I didn't think so.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

I need fresh, young organs for spirit cooking.

Posted by: John Podesta at June 19, 2018 07:37 PM (20X6f)

166 Nothing short of utter open borders will do and that's fine. Let the Democrats be honest and run on that.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2018 07:37 PM (dEQP3)

167 And "temporary" shelters has a nice, disastrously dishonest ring to it, doesn't it??

You mean like "temporary taxes?"

Border barriers and asylum applications only at US missions abroad are the actual answers here.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:36 PM (QDnY+)

GREAT idea.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (YqDXo)

168 Fatso comments:

Meghan McCain on Child Separation: 'Where Is Ivanka In All of This?' -BB

Does Fatso have any kids?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (r9UYA)

169 DG,
That's exactly what I did the last election, I just didn't vote for the race Cornyn was in. That's the lesser of two evils...no way I was going to actually vote for the demoncrap running against him.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (kufk0)

170 Someone should take a baseball bat and smash Schumers glasses into his face.

Posted by: Ronster at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (e2ms4)

171 I think I voted for Cornyn the first time he was up as a Senator, because hey, not Kay Barely Republican the Breck Girl; but I voted Libertarian the other times. Then I moved here.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (6FqZa)

172 153 Is Beto really that popular a nickname for Roberto?

I've never heard spanish speakers use it.

there is (or was a few years ago) a taco place in logan, utah named "beto's".

Posted by: Anachronda at June 19, 2018 07:39 PM (xGZ+b)

173 Build the shelters in Mexico, somebody said that.
Not a bad idea. Machildora's

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:39 PM (3/uST)

174 Deep state op.

If they don't win the mid terms they can't impeach.

They don't give two shirts about the kids or the slave labor.

The must demonize trump.

Posted by: Simplemind at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (ZuGkg)

175 canned hate, "immigration judges" are administrative, part of the non-judicial separate system that administers immigration cases. They're not "judges" (!) as we have come to know them on the federal bench - i.e. lawless economically illiterate legislators with authoritarian instincts.

Posted by: Ha at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (EoRCO)

176 164 Trump should do more to shame Mexico as a country for this "crisis".

It's ironic that this is America's problem when they're Mexicans.
Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:37 PM (lKmt3)

"Mexico's been around for 500 years, and has been run by Mexicans almost as long as America has been run by Americans. So when exactly are you folks going to stop stepping on your dicks and get squared away?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (YqDXo)

177 Today In History: May 19th, 1944 - The Marianas Turkey Shoot

On this day in 1944, in what would become known as the "Marianas Turkey Shoot," U.S. carrier-based fighters decimate the Japanese Fleet with a minimum number of losses in the Battle of the Philippine Sea.

The security of the Marianas Islands, in the western Pacific, were vital to Japan, which had air bases on Saipan, Tinian, and Guam. U.S. troops were already battling the Japanese on Saipan, having landed there on the 15th. Any further intrusion would leave the Philippine Islands, and Japan itself, vulnerable to U.S. attack.

The U.S. Fifth Fleet, commanded by Admiral Raymond Spruance, was on its way west from the Marshall Islands as backup for the invasion of Saipan and the rest of the Marianas. But Japanese Admiral Ozawa Jisaburo decided to challenge the American fleet, ordering 430 of his planes, launched from aircraft carriers, to attack. In what became the greatest carrier battle of the war, the United States, having already picked up the Japanese craft on radar, proceeded to shoot down more than 300 aircraft and sink two Japanese aircraft carriers, losing only 29 of their own planes in the process. It was described in the aftermath as a "turkey shoot."

Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (pe6p0)

178 They can't win on this. I don't think they realize that. It's amazing.

Posted by: Max Power at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (q177U)

179 The best part about this hubbub?
The democrats think this is a winning strategy for November. Trump will let them think it is and still punch them in the crotch everyday.

The thickness of the skin of the bubble of the democrats is at least 2 meters thick. Nothing can penetrate it... nor want to.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (pw+jk)

180 I nominate Jim, JackStraw, DangerGirl, SMH and J.J. to change the whole approach of South America.

Straighten out our Southern border.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (7028f)

181 Trump should do more to shame Mexico as a country for this "crisis".

It's ironic that this is America's problem when they're Mexicans.

Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:37 PM (lKmt3)

that is a good point. What about the people incentivizing and using these poor people? I would not be surprised if they were getting paid or forced in another way to do this. Certainly no one on the left or in other countries is trying to help them without having their lives upended. Yeah, real greet folks leaders there.

Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (n13/j)

182 Be nice to Meghan. She's about to lose her dad.

*ain't he dead yet*

Dear Tumor: what's the f**king hold up?

you had one simple job; swell up and end what little brain activity was there.

Now get busy!

Death.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (bkV+o)

183 Tell the mexicans if the shit doesn't stop there'll be a 50% tax on remittances to Mexico. Problem solved.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (bML9A)

184 Meghan McCain on Child Separation: 'Where Is Ivanka In All of This?' -BB

Um ... when was Ivanka elected to office? I missed that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (YqDXo)

185 impose sanctions on Mexico

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (hMwEB)

186 PDT video on this issue and fake news:
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/
1009154081745784833

Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (Evws/)

187 Good. This is actually awesome. Let's go through some of this:
"There are so many obstacles to legislation and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense," Schumer told reporters. "Legislation is not the way to go here when it's so easy for the president to sign it."

AND:
"Again, the president can change it with his pen," he said, warning that Republicans would likely try to add poison-pill provisions to any immigration bill that came to the floor.
"Unacceptable additions have bogged down every piece of legislation we've done," he said.
======
This is remarkable and we have it right from the horse's mouth:
1) They *favor* a dictatorial presidency and want Trump to be that dictator
2) They are opposed to unrelated riders in legislation
3) They are unwilling to own any part of the narrative they created

This is unbelievable. Do they have any idea how much they are exposing their rank hypocrisy, contempt for our lawmaking process, and the fact that they clearly think all of their constituents are stupid enough to not notice?

Just incredible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (1qrtS)

188 This is not a winning issue for Dems UNLESS Trump folds.

I don't think he will, guy has some serious backbone and holds a grudge, but if say Ivanka has his ear and can get him to back down, they will smell blood in the water and it will be this stuff 24/7 until 2020.

Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (lKmt3)

189 DG,

That's exactly what I did the last election, I just didn't vote for
the race Cornyn was in. That's the lesser of two evils...no way I was
going to actually vote for the demoncrap running against him.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (kufk0)

I either voted for the Libertarian or left it blank. I think I left it blank?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 19, 2018 07:42 PM (SRarZ)

190 The average person born in Mexico now lives in the US of A. Cannot remember where I read that.

Posted by: Memory has been 29 too long at June 19, 2018 07:42 PM (EglZt)

191 Notice how when we haven't heard anything from McCain and we get our hopes up, he pops up with some inane BS?

it's like those plays where the dead die but keep getting back up to make a dying declaration like 5 times?

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:42 PM (bkV+o)

192 The Jews can't make it rain in Israel FFS.
Posted by: eleven at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (+lOpA)
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But we can at the club... Shake dat!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:42 PM (UiRxW)

193 canned hate, "immigration judges" are administrative, part of the
non-judicial separate system that administers immigration cases.
...

Maybe so. But if the solution expands deep-state government bureaucracy, I am in favor of keeping the problem.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:42 PM (ItyGR)

194 HAPPY JUNETEENTH!!!

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:42 PM (3/uST)

195 HAHAHAHA

Are you kidding me? This is our enemy? Hypocritical, blubbering, double-standarding, bitches?

Fuck the Democrats. They want nothing but their own gain by any means; even if that means putting the blame of slavery and discrimination on those who think astray.

Posted by: Delaforce. One post a week at June 19, 2018 07:43 PM (Y8MUd)

196 178 They can't win on this. I don't think they realize that. It's amazing.
Posted by: Max Power at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (q177U)

Republican ad, featuring scowling scary MS-13 members: "These are the 'newcomers' and 'kids' that the Democrats put ahead of you and YOUR kids."

Dissolve to black.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:43 PM (YqDXo)

197 Well, we can stop the $86 million a year we give Mexico to start....Then tax the hell out of remittances and then go from there.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:43 PM (kufk0)

198 As regards a non-vote for Cornyn, always do this, if possible.

Write in a "None of the Above" vote, so that the blank [__] spaces on the ballot can't be turned into [ x ] by some demotard "election judge", later on.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 19, 2018 07:45 PM (p7zrD)

199 "and Mexico's gonna pay for it. "

I believe this.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:45 PM (ItyGR)

200 What/how/why do we give $86 mil to Mexico for?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:45 PM (3/uST)

201 196
178 They can't win on this. I don't think they realize that. It's amazing.

Posted by: Max Power at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (q177U)

Republican ad, featuring scowling scary MS-13 members: "These are
the 'newcomers' and 'kids' that the Democrats put ahead of you and YOUR
kids."

Dissolve to black.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:43 PM (YqDXo)

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No. Dissolve to multiple dead Americans....then dissolve to red.
I could beat the shit out of the donks on Monday and take the rest of the week off.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:45 PM (pw+jk)

202
Yea, but I think Ben Had made a very valid point about using the word "asylum". He was right. Get that word outta there. He outlined the benefits under asylum, the money, housing et.al. They basically turn us into citizens funding royalty.

If the reports are true, it's time for me to really start complaining. You waltz you illegal ass across my border and you get more per year in benefits than I do, after I've been here paying taxes all this time?

How is that fair? Why is a criminal getting any money, and more money than me?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 19, 2018 07:45 PM (HaL55)

203 Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 19, 2018 07:40 PM (pe6p0)

You meant June 19th.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (bkV+o)

204 Republican ad, featuring scowling scary MS-13 members: "These are the 'newcomers' and 'kids' that the Democrats put ahead of you and YOUR kids."

Dissolve to black.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

_______________

There's a lot of parts of the conservative platform that I would argue are a tough sale to the general public, but being a border hawk is not one of them.

But Republicans are still so scared about being called a bigot that none of them would ever get near this issue even though its low hanging fruit.

Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (lKmt3)

205 197 Well, we can stop the $86 million a year we give Mexico to start....Then tax the hell out of remittances and then go from there.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:43 PM (kufk0)
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You're smart and beautiful!

Posted by: Weasel at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (MVjcR)

206 When will the Democraps be labeled as obstructionists? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Octopussy at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (LylvR)

207 I just did a search on foreign aid to mexico and that is from the government website.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (kufk0)

208 I always write in Donald Duck.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (3/uST)

209 Can't we send them to......Canada. Let Zoolander have them.

Posted by: PhilDirt at June 19, 2018 07:47 PM (kBsQ4)

210
"Republican ad, featuring scowling scary MS-13 members"

Racist, racist, racist

That's the response

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2018 07:47 PM (SchhY)

211 Trump should do more to shame Mexico as a country for this "crisis".
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He is waiting for the Mexican election to be over.
Any pressure on Mexico right now will send all candidates into a staunch anti-American mode from which it will hard to later retreat.

Once the new preezy is in, Trump can use the carrot and stick, privately or publicly.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 19, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)

212 Why, thank you weasel! *blushes*

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:47 PM (kufk0)

213 I always write in Donald Duck.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:46 PM (3/uST)

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I write in my name.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:48 PM (pw+jk)

214 President Trump should use the stroke of his pen to fund the wall, declare Mexico a failed illegal country and outlaw the democrat party.

Chuck U said so.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2018 07:48 PM (EoRCO)

215 Maritime/Quint, just today I was discussing this point with some friends - Trump had earlier, explicitly, said that non-cooperation on other major bilateral issues like border security and migration would inevitably affect the NAFTA situation.

Have made some inquiries, asking if this has been put sternly to the Mexican side in the ongoing NAFTA talks, so far no intel.

The only "humanitarian" issue here - and it's an issue, but not a "crisis" - is the mistreatment of illegal migrants as they trek across Guatemala and Mexico. Do-gooder NGOs estimate* that up to 80% of all female migrants are assaulted en route. THIS is an outrage, for which the US bears 0% responsibility, Mexico and a few others being 100% responsible.

Today in his brief immigration remarks at the NFIB speech, Trump rather dramatically - in Trumpian fashion - said Mexico "does nothing" to help on this.

If this is true, Two Scoops, time for the Bilateral Hammer of Zeus** to come down on Mexico.

* "estimates" - exactly numbers are less important than the common sense recognition that these migrants face massive security risks en route

** OK so Thor is the one with the hammer - so what - I think Zeus could have a hammer too, if he wanted, I mean - he's Zeus!

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:48 PM (QDnY+)

216 197 Well, we can stop the $86 million a year we give Mexico to start....Then tax the hell out of remittances and then go from there.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:43 PM (kufk0)

Inspect every truck coming from Mexico. Thoroughly. VERY thoroughly. Take all day to do one. Then check to make sure all of the paperwork is in order. Perfect order.

We Americans stupidly think explicit policies are what's called for, when in fact the better approach is the "sure, we're all board with this, it's just that we need to make sure all the paperwork is in order."

That way you don't have to climb down from an explicit policy. You have the same policy all along - you're either just paying lip service to it, or going along with it in spirit as well. The other side doesn't play ball, you slow walk everything, while denying that there's a change in policy. When they start playing ball, you become more reasonable, but you've never changed your expressed policy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:48 PM (YqDXo)

217 BackwardsBoy, This is not widely known, but I'm going to pay the local rag their pound of flesh to take out an ad stating these facts.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:49 PM (7028f)

218 Mexico has NO shame.

Their elite are racists. The invaders are indians. Ergo they want them gone, dead, elsewhere.

They couldn't care less what the US does with them.

Except on CNN.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:49 PM (bkV+o)

219 He is waiting for the Mexican election to be over.
Any pressure on Mexico right now will send all candidates into a staunch anti-American mode from which it will hard to later retreat.

Once the new preezy is in, Trump can use the carrot and stick, privately or publicly.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 19, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)

This.

If I hear ONE MORE commercial here - in English - by Mexican candidates in the Mexican election ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:50 PM (YqDXo)

220 "There are so many obstacles to legislation..."

So many obstacles to legislation...says the leading democrat in the Senate. Schumer is basically saying he sucks at his job, has no interest in trying, would rather blame Trump. The dems have nefarious reasons for pushing Trump into issuing EO's. Make them do their jobs, the lazy overpaid bums.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 19, 2018 07:50 PM (2NqXo)

221 It's not as necessary to buy oil from them so now is a good time for the slow walking.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 07:50 PM (3/uST)

222 >>He is waiting for the Mexican election to be over.
Any pressure on Mexico right now will send all candidates into a staunch anti-American mode from which it will hard to later retreat.

Don't think it's going to make much of a difference. It's likely the new president of Mexico is going to be the far left Obrador. Our very own Chavez right on the border.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

223 Inspect every truck coming from Mexico. Thoroughly. VERY thoroughly.
Take all day to do one. Then check to make sure all of the paperwork is
in order. Perfect order.

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That was the Japanese model in the 1980s, maybe still not in that anymore. I know that as a fact from being on the ground...then they make the machine that has been waiting in customs for 8 months. Best part. the Letter of Credit does not fund until out of customs.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (pw+jk)

224 Their elite are racists. The invaders are indians. Ergo they want them gone, dead, elsewhere.

They couldn't care less what the US does with them.

Except on CNN.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:49 PM (bkV+o)

The leftist obsession with "brown people" is risible. The Mexican elites are no more brown than I am.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (YqDXo)

225 Cruz IS one of my senators. He is the one I actually get to vote for instead of voting for the lesser evil like in Cornyn's case.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:29 PM (kufk0)
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Mine too. He is actually one I gladly send money too for his campaign.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (PvFoN)

226 Horde, our courts, notary of the publics, clerks of the court, and trusted people filling out sworn statements are so corrupt on a local level. I dint see how any contract is valid in The Current Year.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (NLQj5)

227 Willowed:

Tubby Jonah Goldberg has an article today about how nation states are

just an extension of our "tribal mind" and we will evolve toward

"dynamic global unity." He prevaricates about not knowing whether or not

that would be "better," but it's clear where his sympathies.

Seems
odd that all these assholes are actually ideological communists. The
end game to what they advocate for is exactly that. Global,
redistributionist, collectivist communism. Really?

Are they that stupid or are they just revealing themselves?

I feel like I'm in a movie where nothing was what it seemed all along. Like everyone is really just aliens in human bodies.

Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (nRWPy)

228 I honestly think it would be way easier to bribe Mexico to build a wall and handle this flow than our own Republican Congress.

Just say we'll give them whatever they want in NAFTA, they just have to build a wall, guard it and pay for it.

Honestly, it would be pennies on the dollar for them. They have about a $65 BILLION dollar trade deficit with us every single year.

Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:52 PM (lKmt3)

229 https://dailym.ai/2MH6K3B
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Trump's deputy chief of staff Joe Hagin to leave White House | Daily Mail Online

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 19, 2018 07:52 PM (y3aQB)

230 Don't think it's going to make much of a difference. It's likely the new president of Mexico is going to be the far left Obrador. Our very own Chavez right on the border.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

Sorry, can't hear you, too busy building that wall ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:52 PM (YqDXo)

231 Margarita, that's why I was surprised that today Trump publicly called out Mexico on their criminal behavior (he didn't use that term).

And given the near non-stop intense bilateral interaction for the last year over NAFTA, and Trump's explicit linkage of NAFTA to other bilateral issues like migration - I'd expect we're doing the nasty private message already. And Mexico has a number of options for quietly complying with our private demands without triggering the stupid defiant reflex in the presidential campaign that you accurately identify.

And isn't the extremist going to win, anyway?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:52 PM (QDnY+)

232 Why do I think Schumer was burning up the phone line with Obama and friends last night?

That EO pen suggestion makes me nervous. Feels like a trap.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:53 PM (tQASX)

233 None of this would be an issue if we didn't have cucks in leadership roles within the GOP. Can't wait until the lame ducks show up again.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 07:53 PM (r9UYA)

234 Just say we'll give them whatever they want in NAFTA, they just have to build a wall, guard it and pay for it.

Honestly, it would be pennies on the dollar for them. They have about a $65 BILLION dollar trade deficit with us every single year.
Posted by: Maritime at June 19, 2018 07:52 PM (lKmt3)

Give them what they want in NAFTA ... for a limited time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:53 PM (YqDXo)

235
Nothing short of utter open borders will do and that's fine. Let the Democrats be honest and run on that.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton.

Each and every time I hear of some open borders imbecile, I want to ask them, "Hey, Mr. (or Mx. as the case may be) Open Borders, do you have a front door on your home? If so, why?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 19, 2018 07:53 PM (HaL55)

236 One thing is sure. Trump has revealed all the poseurs and spies.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 19, 2018 07:53 PM (bkV+o)

237 I'm just a little pissed on how us normals are being dragged through the mud. They're playing with fire.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 19, 2018 07:54 PM (Y9uH4)

238 What are the odds on Obrador's winning vs. his opponent?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:54 PM (YqDXo)

239 >>Give them what they want in NAFTA ... for a limited time.

Seems like we've been giving them whatever they want in NAFTA long enough.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 07:55 PM (/tuJf)

240 I feel like I'm in a movie where nothing was what it seemed all along. Like everyone is really just aliens in human bodies.
Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (nRWPy)
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Yeah it's Like the movie "They Live." And Trump gave us all a pair of those sunglasses that Rowdy Roddy Piper has.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 07:55 PM (UiRxW)

241 11 I want a bill that says every illegal who includes a child in the commission of a crime (coming to the US illegally) gets an additional 30 days in jail.

Wouldn't that be more humane? It would disincentivize this behavior.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 19, 2018 07:12 PM

I want a bill mandating anyone bringing a child over the border illegally without permission, including their own, get mandatory 10 in a fed prison for child trafficking. They are doing for profit for themselves not the kid.

Posted by: Lester at June 19, 2018 07:55 PM (LfJIn)

242 168 Fatso comments:

Meghan McCain on Child Separation: 'Where Is Ivanka In All of This?' -BB

Does Fatso have any kids?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (r9UYA)

Well, Ivanka didn't illegally immigrate dragging her kids with her, so I guess she doesn't have to worry about it.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 07:55 PM (sdi6R)

243 Trump's deputy chief of staff Joe Hagin to leave White House | Daily Mail Online
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 19, 2018 07:52 PM (y3aQB)

I saw that. I guess he kept North Korea details from Trump, but the thing that sealed it was some involvement with that NXVIM cult. (Sp)

He isn't leaving for 2 weeks though.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:55 PM (tQASX)

244 @ dagny & J.J. Sefton....

Also willowed from the previous thread:

"He looked too long into the abyss. It looked back into him.

And it liked what it saw."

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 19, 2018 07:56 PM (p7zrD)

245
Tubby Jonah Goldberg has an article today about how nation states are just an extension of our "tribal mind" and we will evolve toward "dynamic global unity."

He wants to pilot his own starship.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2018 07:56 PM (IqV8l)

246 184
Meghan McCain on Child Separation: 'Where Is Ivanka In All of This?' -BB

Um ... when was Ivanka elected to office? I missed that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:41 PM (YqDXo)

Because like a lot of people she is under the illusion that her father will do anything she says. Fortunately most of the Horde has been disabused of that notion, and the "Trump will do whatever the last person who speaks to him wants" notion.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 07:56 PM (0QYMt)

247 168 Fatso comments:

Meghan McCain on Child Separation: 'Where Is Ivanka In All of This?' -BB

Does Fatso have any kids?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 07:38 PM (r9UYA)

She and Melania were called a cvnt and piece of shit respectively by those on your side.

I should think they may be somewhat not inclined to participate in this you bloated, blonde blivet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)

248 New one up

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (myjNJ)

249 Charge Mexico for the "migrants" care. Take it out of the remittances sent back by the illegals already here.

Posted by: free tibet at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (sj4Ub)

250 91 Who was the concern troll yesterday saying that Cruz was selling us out??????

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 07:22 PM (kufk0)
why would people think he would? If anything he is proving the Dems just want a political cudgel. They might accidentally help people with a policy, but even that is questionable. They are all about winning and tearing down. this is pretty standard stuff.
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 07:27 PM (n13/j)

Because he's a Republican. He went along with Glenn Beck to hand out soccer balls to these poor kids. He's been kind of wishy washy about immigration at times especially H1B Visas.

I do not mind skepticism of our politicians. There's enough data out there to suggest we're still not skeptical enough.

Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (lKs2v)

251 >>What are the odds on Obrador's winning vs. his opponent?

If current polling is anywhere near accurate Obrador is going to win in a walk.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (/tuJf)

252 Because like a lot of people Megan is under the
illusion that Ivanka's father will do anything Ivanka says. Fortunately most of
the Horde has been disabused of that notion, and the "Trump will do
whatever the last person who speaks to him wants" notion.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General
and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 07:56 PM (0QYMt)

Saw the pronoun problem after posting.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (0QYMt)

253 232 Why do I think Schumer was burning up the phone line with Obama and friends last night?

That EO pen suggestion makes me nervous. Feels like a trap.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 07:53 PM (tQASX)

I alluded to that back in #53.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (sdi6R)

254
Meghan McCain on Child Separation: 'Where Is Ivanka In All of This?'

I thought Donald was the president?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (IqV8l)

255 Jay haven't checked the latest polling but Obrador has never led by less than a comfortable margin from the outset (last one I remember he had high 50s%). And I don't think Mexican polling is as subject to failure, in this case, as was American polling two years ago.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (QDnY+)

256 Tubby Jonah Goldberg has an article today

I predict a regular column in WaPo before 2021.

Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (ItyGR)

257 Deplorable Jay, Take it as a given that Obrador has already won.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (7028f)

258
BackwardsBoy, This is not widely known, but I'm going to pay the local rag their pound of flesh to take out an ad stating these facts.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:49 PM (7028f)

Thank you. This information needs to be spread far and wide. I'm sure I'm not the only one pissed about this.

I think I'd be perfectly justified in telling my Congresscretin that I don't like this one fucking bit and to change something, either don't pay the illegals, or raise my bennies to a lot more than theirs.

Or, solve the problem and close the border. I'm not picky.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (HaL55)

259 Trump has revealed all the poseurs and spies.

He has.

Once upon a time, I'd visit some paleolibertarian or hard-Right blog, where they'd post some fevered rant against National Review and/or George Bush Junior and/or THE NEOCONS!!, and I'd write them off as paranoid loons.

Now I've learnt that the loons were right. And that's sad. But still, all that's on Goldberg and on his palz, for being phoney in the first place.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (6FqZa)

260 Horde, I have a question. If somebody makes a sttaemnt from 1.5 years ago in a letter and then gets it notarized without changing the date from the letter and the notary is almost 2 years later... Can you do that? Is that even legal? What about making a change in the year without initaling it by the signee and the notary? Is that legal?

Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (NLQj5)

261 Meghan and her pair of floaters should shut up.

Posted by: Gabe at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (3/uST)

262 You know Europeans claim that they should have a vote here because we influence Europe so much?

Well, by that reasoning, maybe we should have a vote in Mexico. In fact, if they had any brains, they'd use the dollar as currency; they'd be able to borrow a lot more cheaply, because now they have to pay a premium to compensate lenders for the inflationary risk.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (YqDXo)

263 I'm just a little pissed on how us normals are being dragged through the mud. They're playing with fire.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 19, 2018 07:54 PM (Y9uH4)

Some jackhole scraped the LinkedIn dbase and posted a list of everyone who was listed as working for ICE.

These fuckers want to start some violence.

Be very very very careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (dEQP3)

264 Tubby Jonah Goldberg has an article today about how nation states are

just an extension of our "tribal mind" and we will evolve toward

"dynamic global unity." He prevaricates about not knowing whether or not

that would be "better," but it's clear where his sympathies.

In the future, all men will wear crocs.

Posted by: Jonah G at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (sXefu)

265 257 Deplorable Jay, Take it as a given that Obrador has already won.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (7028f)

Thanks. Bad news, but thanks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (YqDXo)

266 Am I the only one that has noticed the recent media presence of Ted Cruz? Why and for what purpose? He seemed to make a fool of himself in 2016, then slunk off to lick his wounds. But, he is back in the spotlight with some recent pro-Trump stances, a celebrity charity basketball game (I'm being generous here), and now exposing Demonicrat hypocrisy. What's his game? Continued relevance? Kissing Trump's ass for a possible federal judgeship? Positioning himself for 2024?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (9BLnV)

267 I do not mind skepticism of our politicians. There's enough data out there to suggest we're still not skeptical enough.

Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (lKs2v)

In general I agree. I generally believe that when government decides to "fix something" they make it worse. But I like Cruz. He is not perfect for sure but one of our better ones imo.

Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (n13/j)

268 Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (NLQj5)
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I don't know, but you've been willowed, dog.

Might wanna repost in the new Peterstroke thread.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (UiRxW)

269 Given her expressed and sincere concern about the separation of illegal alien children from their parents, Laura Bush rapidly is putting together a PSA to demand Congress immediately pass a version of the Cruz/Cotton legislation. Why, it's such a major crisis even Michelle Obama will join with her to promote legislation to help families to be unified.

Happening right there.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (dEJuU)

270 What's his game? Continued relevance? Kissing Trump's ass for a possible federal judgeship? Positioning himself for 2024?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (9BLnV)

He's up for reelection this year.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (dEQP3)

271 Jay haven't checked the latest polling but Obrador has never led by less than a comfortable margin from the outset (last one I remember he had high 50s%). And I don't think Mexican polling is as subject to failure, in this case, as was American polling two years ago.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (QDnY+)

Thanks. How many trunkfuls of votes is he ahead?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:02 PM (YqDXo)

272 I feel like I'm in a movie where nothing was what it seemed all along. Like everyone is really just aliens in human bodies.
Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2018 07:51 PM (nRWPy)

I have been feeling this way too...for about a year. It really is an alternate reality. "What the hell is going on" is my constant (silent) refrain.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 08:02 PM (tQASX)

273 268 Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (NLQj5)
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I don't know, but you've been willowed, dog.

Might wanna repost in the new Peterstroke thread.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (UiRxW)

Thanks brother. I appreciate the heads up.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:02 PM (NLQj5)

274 The peso is pegged to the dollar. Or it used to be.

And whether they used the dollar or not wouldn't Mexico's inflation risk be the same.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (3/uST)

275 What's his game? Continued relevance? Kissing Trump's ass for a possible federal judgeship? Positioning himself for 2024?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (9BLnV)

Starting small forward for YOUR San Antonio Spurs, Ted Cruuuzzz!

Posted by: Some Jackass at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (sXefu)

276 Laura Bush rapidly is putting together a PSA to demand Congress immediately pass a version of the Cruz/Cotton legislation. Why, it's such a major crisis even Michelle Obama will join with her to promote legislation to help families to be unified.

I'm putting together a PSA to demand Congress immediately repeal the 19th Amendment, to stop shit like this finding its way to the ballot box.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (YqDXo)

277 Well, by that reasoning, maybe we should have a vote in Mexico. In fact, if they had any brains, they'd use the dollar as currency; they'd be able to borrow a lot more cheaply, because now they have to pay a premium to compensate lenders for the inflationary risk.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (YqDXo)

Well, if Mexicans had any brains, they would have already monopolized the internet donkey porn.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (9BLnV)

278
These fuckers want to start some violence.

Be very very very careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Still waiting for the backlash, boss.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2018 08:05 PM (IqV8l)

279 Am I the only one that has noticed the recent media presence of Ted Cruz? Why and for what purpose? He seemed to make a fool of himself in 2016, then slunk off to lick his wounds. But, he is back in the spotlight with some recent pro-Trump stances, a celebrity charity basketball game (I'm being generous here), and now exposing Demonicrat hypocrisy. What's his game? Continued relevance? Kissing Trump's ass for a possible federal judgeship? Positioning himself for 2024?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male
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He's up for re-election this November

Posted by: lin-duh at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (kufk0)

280 Lunch

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (3/uST)

281 The peso is pegged to the dollar. Or it used to be.

And whether they used the dollar or not wouldn't Mexico's inflation risk be the same.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (3/uST)

IIRC, it has been pegged to the dollar, but then they periodically change the pegging point (so to speak), which neuters the entire idea. Using actual greenbacks as currency obviates the possibility of the Mexicans inflating their currency, because they wouldn't be using their currency. See, e.g., the Euro and Greece.

The problem for them - apart from national pride, which is a biggie - is that they could no longer set their monetary policy (so no "quantitative easing"). Which, of course, is the whole idea that makes it attractive to lenders.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:07 PM (YqDXo)

282 Laura Bush rapidly is putting together a PSA to demand Congress immediately pass a version of the Cruz/Cotton legislation

Maybe now is the time to the listen to people who've killed someone drunk driving about immigration.

Posted by: Take Japper at June 19, 2018 08:08 PM (sXefu)

283 58 These people from all these Central American countries that have a GDP of .04% that are sending these kids that equate to $ 35,000 a year of mine and your money, and still get another 100 million in foreign aid assistance.
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I find it interesting that so many of these "poor" illegal aliens in the U.S. have been able to find the cash to pay smugglers to bring their kids into the U.S.

The price is said to be $6,000 to $8,000 per kid. A study published a few weeks ago showed that about half of American citizen families wouldn't be able to come up with $400 for an emergency, but thousands of illegal aliens living in the U.S. can come up with thousands of dollars in cash for smugglers?

What's wrong with this picture?

We are such unbelievable suckers. No wonder so many people are willing to risk so much to come here and take advantage of us. Our corrupt politicians make it so damn easy for them!

Tens of billions of dollars the IRS pays every year to illegal aliens in "tax credits" (which are just thinly-disguised welfare payments). Tens of billions of dollars every year in food stamps paid to illegal aliens. Tens of billions of dollars every year in Medicare Part D prescription drug benefits paid to illegal aliens. Somalis in Minnesota have been running a scam there, raking in millions of dollars a year with phony "day care" centers that the government pays for.

Rampant fraud and thievery every where you look, and meanwhile U.S. citizens keep working and slogging along and paying taxes like good little serfs, including ever-increasing property taxes so that the local school districts can hire more ESL teachers so that Raul and Julio and all the other little illegals can get their remedial lessons in their native tongue . . . . .

It's maddening. And sickening. And it needs to stop.

Posted by: Idiot leftist (but I repeat myself) at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (fqUgw)

284 Well, if Mexicans had any brains, they would have already monopolized the internet donkey porn.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (9BLnV)

I'm organizing a telethon.

Posted by: Shep! at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (sXefu)

285 Ah so, and "quantitative easing" is so good for the people.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (3/uST)

286 What's his game? Continued relevance? Kissing Trump's ass for a possible federal judgeship? Positioning himself for 2024?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (9BLnV)

He's up for reelection this year.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (dEQP3)

That would be a possibility, but why would Jimmy Kimmel help? Plus, with his Austin vegan diversity LGBTUVWXYZ promoter opponent, he'd have to piss on a few of the immigrant children in their cages to lose.

Starting small forward for YOUR San Antonio Spurs, Ted Cruuuzzz!
Posted by: Some Jackass at June 19, 2018 08:03
PM (sXefu)

Sheeeiitt, brah! Dat white boy can't jump.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (9BLnV)

287 I do not mind skepticism of our politicians. There's enough data out there to suggest we're still not skeptical enough.
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 07:57 PM (lKs2v)

Oh, hell yea. We've trusted them waaayyy too much. Look where we are today!! Can you imagine if we had not gotten Trump? I swear the border would have been erased by now. Jeb - it's an act of love. Or HRC Pantsuit, globalist.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 08:11 PM (tQASX)

288 I am absolutely sure lots of these illegals and green card workers send plane loads of cash back from where they came. So none of these countries are out to stop this. Mexico has to be making money from illegals transit across Mexico.

Posted by: Skip at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (pHfeF)

289 I just saw a 71 yo woman getting twirled across the stage beautifully by a 35 yo guy on AGT
Fantastic dancing

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 19, 2018 08:19 PM (hMwEB)

290 I can't believe she's 71. She looks 40 at most.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 19, 2018 08:21 PM (hMwEB)

291 Why do you hate brown children, Chuck Schumer?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at June 19, 2018 09:44 PM (wSC8T)

292 President Trump has a conversion with Chucky The Cheesy Schemer

Schemer: Ahh we have to do something about the the unaccompanied minors!!!!

President Trump: Ok, here is my proposal.

Schemer No No No, you can't enforce the LAW! Pick up your phone and pen and do what The light bringer Obama(PBUH) did and just end it by executive fiat!!!

President Trump: Ok, just made the call and signed the executive order.

Schemer, the MSM and the Liberal hord: Look he is acting like a dictator, Fascist Nazi!!! We need a special council to investigate this!!!!

Posted by: JEB24 at June 19, 2018 09:50 PM (JCa04)

293 The [Democrat] bill provides that "[a]n agent or officer of a designated agency shall be prohibited from removing a child from his or her parent or legal guardian at or near the port of entry or within 100 miles of the border of the United States" (with three exceptions to be discussed later).
So we cede the outer 100 miles ? I bet it includes NYC, San Fran, LA and a host of sanctuary cities.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at June 19, 2018 10:00 PM (e8kgV)

294
God sends his spaceships to America, the beautiful
They land at six o'clock and there we are, the dutiful
Eating from TV trays, tuned into to Happy Days
Waiting for World War III while Jesus slaves
To the mating calls of lawyers in love

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at June 19, 2018 10:11 PM (e8kgV)

295 Schumer will live and die a p.....k.

Posted by: Your friendly neighborhood witch at June 20, 2018 03:10 AM (HLTe8)

296 I agree with Sen. Cruz that these separations happen because the courts don't allow children to be held as long as it takes for asylum claims to be heard. But I have a simpler solution than his:
Simply have the law state that anyone who requests asylum must come in at an official port-of-entry and apply for it there. In other words, if you cross the border somewhere else, you should forfeit any possibility of applying for asylum.
The result would be that these families get treated the same way families who do not apply for asylum are already being treated. Assuming they are first-time entrants and have not committed some more serious crime, they are kept together, tried, sentenced to time served, and deported, all within a day or two of capture.

Posted by: jdgalt at June 20, 2018 01:03 PM (3SFo/)

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