Mark Sanford Loses Primary; NeverTrumpers, Get This, Freak Out and Begin Calling for a GOP Wipeout in the 2018 Elections

#Resistance hero Mark Sanford lost, for reasons probably having little to do with Trump -- Trump's tweet came when polls were almost closed, and Trump probably tweeted because he'd heard Sanford was likely to lose, based on exit polls, and wanted a piece of that scalp -- but the never-ending NeverTrump Twitter Circle Jerk went into conniptions anyway.

The Democrats must take the House, and big time. At the very least.
— Avi Woolf, WTF Conservative🌍 (@AviWoolf) June 13, 2018

I'm not at all happy about it. I understand people who think differently. But the party and especially its members are going down a dark road and I fear winning 2018 will be seen as a vindication of that, with ramifications for a long time. https://t.co/GG0HTQZUzq
— Avi Woolf, WTF Conservative🌍 (@AviWoolf) June 13, 2018

And if Democrats don't sweep in 2018, then he says they must sweep in 2020:

Then they must sweep 2020. https://t.co/birrLbwNbX
— Avi Woolf, WTF Conservative🌍 (@AviWoolf) June 13, 2018

True Conservative, y'all!

Hey, maybe join Bill Maher in his prayer that the country re-enter a painful recession, if this is so vital and all.

I wrote about the pressure I felt to join the NeverTrump circle jerk. I predicted, accurately, that NeverTrump, having put itself into a position of relentless hostility and liberal-like We're-The-Experts-Here contempt for Republican voters, would simply become a species of nasty partisan Democrat, and that was part (but only part) of the reason I rejected all that.*

Mollie Hemingway notes that outside of the never-ending NeverTrump Twitter Circle Jerk, NeverTrump barely exists at all:

NeverTrumpism is a Twitter/old media phenomenon. It doesn't meaningfully exist in real world. So we should not be surprised that groupthink that gets you Twitter attaboys isn't the path to success in GOP primaries. This message is brought to you by the years 2016, 2017, and 2018.
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) June 13, 2018

Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies.

* Weird how I could figure out the unavoidable trajectory of putting oneself into direct opposition to one's party -- that personal feelings and egotistical impulses would, as they always do, begin to harden opposition from an ideological objection to a deeply personal and bitter emotional alienation -- and thereby lead, inevitably, to finding a new group of Political Friends to be friendly friends with, but the people who assure us all every single day on Twitter that They're the People Who Really Understand Politics and They're the Experts and Serious You Guys They Went to College and Stuff couldn't figure this fucking shit out, and in fact still can't 18 months later.

Do they not understand human psychology, human social group dynamics, and the natural (if regrettable) tendency to magnify differences between In-Group and Out-Group to create higher In-Group solidarity and higher levels of hatred towards the Out-Group?

Did they never notice the tendency of any insular group of like-minded individuals to become more extreme and "purified" in their groupthink, and more extreme in denouncing unbelievers?

Do they not know about the tendency of members of insular groups to compete with each other to ever more stridently proclaim Group Dogmas in a kind of competition to demonstrate Group Loyalty and Group Belongingness?

Did they not realize that they, being human, would wind up going down that path themselves? Did they imagine they were so virtuous and intellectual (hey, just look a their prodigious Twitter Output!!!) that they were immune to such group dynamics?

Wait-- I thought they were the Experts About Politics and All Other Things Too. They tell me so on Twitter every fucking day.

Do they really not understand any of this?

Did they think they were too smart to behave like all other human beings have since we came down from the trees?

And, on that point: I hate to say this, Geniuses, but you don't seem that smart to me. You seem on the dim side of the Average College Graduate to me.

I continue being infinitely amused by a group behaving in the most primitive tribal fashion forming a new tribe and demonizing the old tribe bemoaning the tribalism of the tribe they've decided to make war on for believing in slightly different things than they do.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:39 PM

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1 But he was known to be a traitor of sorts. Dunno, maybe not the tweet but the movement.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:40 PM (fceHP)

2 The worst enemies are the traitors on your own side.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 13, 2018 12:40 PM (FWsqf)

3 Mollie Hemingway... sigh.

Top Five at least!

You figure it out...

Posted by: GuyfromNH at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (Gs5TH)

4 If not for whiney babies, who would the Press write about?

Not adults, fur sure.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (hyuyC)

5 The truly great things about being a Never Hillaryer:
1) Not being hounded to change.
2) Being right.

Posted by: Kristian Holvoet at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (e1eKc)

6 ARGENTINA!

Posted by: nip at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (ECLaL)

7 Yes, we should stop paying attention to them. Find something more edifying than enabling their America hating behavior.

Posted by: The F'ing Blue Bird of Joy at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (PoZng)

8 MAGA!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (ptqGC)

9 I think Cicero said something along those lines. The Roman one, not the moron commenter.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (FWsqf)

10 And he sucks cock by choice

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at June 13, 2018 12:42 PM (jsWA8)

11 but the never-ending NeverTrump Twitter Circle Jerk went into conniptions anyway.

The NeverTrump cruises this year will be aptly named?

Titanic

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:42 PM (fceHP)

12 I love Molly's little smirk when she's on Special Report.

Posted by: WisRich at June 13, 2018 12:42 PM (G0vdT)

13 "Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies."

I will if you will.

Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 12:42 PM (Enq6K)

14 DUNGAREES!

Posted by: George Will at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (3yQ8+)

15 Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies."

Bbbbbut we were student council presidents in skool!

Waaaaaaa!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (7LY+6)

16 Translation: "We have to burn the party down to save it!"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (W+vEI)

17 Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies.
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Except to make fun of them.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (vDqXW)

18 Sanford was an unfaithful and reckless snake.

Guy needs to fuck off and go be with his Venezuelean cooz.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (UfMVm)

19 repost of the nevertrumper's takedown

Why does the commentariat so despise Trump's success?
https://tinyurl.com/yc6yqrsf

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (fceHP)

20 >>Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies.

I'm JackStraw and I endorse this message.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (/tuJf)

21 WTF is an avi woolf, some kinda weasel?

Posted by: garrett at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (3yQ8+)

22 Unexpectedly !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 13, 2018 12:44 PM (GNCPT)

23 And if we don't sweep in 2020, we must sweep in 2022!

Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative! at June 13, 2018 12:44 PM (O5Q3r)

24 Sanford was an unfaithful and reckless snake."

But his Son was pretty funny...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 13, 2018 12:44 PM (7LY+6)

25 Maybe someone can tweet them an anecdote about tater tots to distract them?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (W+vEI)

26 Old Never Trumper yells at cloud!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (pw+jk)

27 Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies

Bingo. Never heard of this Avi dude, but its pretty obvious he's no conservative. Why even pay these fools heed? They have zero influence, zero impact on policy, zero input on what is happening, and never have accomplished anything of value in their lives for America. Who cares what they say as they sit around in their room yelling at clouds?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (39g3+)

28

"I'm here for the gang bang."

Posted by: Guy at Avi Woolf's Door at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (3yQ8+)

29 >>> Mark Sanford Loses Primary; NeverTrumpers, Get This, Freak Out

He lost to a woman, Katie Arrington. Why do NeverTrumpers hate women so much?

Posted by: LizLem at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (hvf9s)

30 Avi Woolf, WTF Conservative

This asshole, and many others, need to do us all a favor, demonstrate some intellectual honesty (for a change), and change parties.

Of course they won't, because then literally nobody will pay attention to them.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (wzkM8)

31 WTF is an avi woolf, some kinda weasel?

of the NeoCon variety I'm guessing

Posted by: McCool at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (WXSv6)

32 Whiney?...must need a diaper change.

Posted by: BignJames at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (0+nbW)

33 WTF is an avi woolf,"

Media file type?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (7LY+6)

34 And if they don't sweep in 2022, they must sweep in 2024!

Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative! at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (O5Q3r)

35 looks like sanford is a BIG DUMMY

Posted by: lancewing plover at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (84QUd)

36 Trump Badger don't care.
Trump Badger don't give a shit.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (pw+jk)

37 So, I live in SC-1, and I voted for Sanford yesterday.

I've always liked him despite the anti-Trumpism because of his fiscal conservatism that always felt very genuine.

Fiscal conservatism is a good thing.

However, that being said, it was pretty obvious for a while that he was going to lose.

His opponent's yard signs were everywhere. Sanford's were here and there, several years old (the exact same signs used in his original bid for the special election a few years ago), and felt like an afterthought. Where Arrington's signs were up and down most streets, Sanford would have one here or there at some busy intersections.

The mood of the district was obviously against him.

And I don't really blame my neighbors for their choice. Is it helpful to conservatism when you have a member of the Freedom Caucus going onto MSNBC to browbeat Trump all the time? No, it's not, and I can understand why my neighbors decided that they needed other representation in Congress.

As to his future? I care as much about Sanford's future as I do for any other former politicians, which is not much.

I'll vote for Arrington in the general, but I'm still a bit sad to see Sanford go.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (EvBgT)

38 Patterico assures his dwindling bevy of catamites that his conservative principles remain unchanged.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (y7DUB)

39 Mollie
NeverTrumpism is a Twitter/old media phenomenon. It doesn't meaningfully exist in real world. So we should not be surprised that groupthink that gets you Twitter attaboys isn't the path to success in GOP primaries. This message is brought to you by the years 2016, 2017, and 2018.

Oh, that's a good tweet. Good going Mollie.

The meltdown of these guys is also surreal to watch. I think Jonah will be bald after 8 years of Trump.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (fceHP)

40 Not that I agree, but Rothenberg wrote in Roll Call this morning that the "Blue wave" for the House is alive and well.

That should be enough to scare any Republicans to the polls in November.

That way we can finally squash these Vichy-Republicans

Posted by: Marcus T at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (QQ1E1)

41 Somebody call?

Posted by: Waahmbulance Paramedics at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (vDqXW)

42 "Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies."

see also, feminists and CNN

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (FOPyv)

43 Can someone, anyone, explain how putting Nancy Pelosi - Nancy. F*cking. Pelosi - in charge of the HOR in any measurable, practical way advances what these so called #TruCons claim to support?

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (wzkM8)

44 Good to see the Kristol/Goldberg 2020 ticket is gathering steam. Lulz.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (Agn5J)

45 And if they don't sweep in 2024, they must sweep in 2026!

Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative! at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (O5Q3r)

46 Whose afraid of the Big Bad Avi Michelle Wolff?

Posted by: mercenary13 at June 13, 2018 12:48 PM (Dzxud)

47 The wife of avi woolf like the Paola and avi woolf likes watching The Paola working.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 13, 2018 12:48 PM (pw+jk)

48 So Sanford can be nevertrump but trump can't be neversanford?

Who writes these rules?!?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 13, 2018 12:48 PM (Bnl22)

49 So is it 1933 or 1938 all over again?

I get confused and shit.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 12:48 PM (4ErVI)

50 43 Can someone, anyone, explain how putting Nancy Pelosi - Nancy. F*cking. Pelosi - in charge of the HOR in any measurable, practical way advances what these so called #TruCons claim to support?
Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (wzkM

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She's going to lead welfare reform and decrease the deficit.

Why are you laughing?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:48 PM (EvBgT)

51 And if they don't sweep in 2024, they must sweep in 2026!
Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative! at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (O5Q3r)
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We cannot sleep, until the Dems sweep.

Posted by: Avi Woolf! at June 13, 2018 12:48 PM (vDqXW)

52 So - along these lines - someone called in to the Weekly Standard to complain about the #NeverTrump cucksters and left this message on their machine.
Pure. Gold.

https://tinyurl.com/yaxwabqq

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Fb9aZ)

53 Any guesses as to when Sanford switches over to Dem and runs for office in SC?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly known as MrCaniac at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (fdTrp)

54 OW, my butt!

Posted by: Sanford at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (xBSm0)

55 Dear Avi,

Trump is going down a bright, well lit, three-lane highway.

It is the road *you* are on that is dark and murky and full of potholes.

(and your twitter avatar looks like a little green dildo.)

Sincerely,

Warai-otoko

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (BRvh1)

56 "and that was part (but only part) of the reason I rejected all that"

It's frightening how close this site may have come to utter destruction. I'm not sure why your natural instincts are so anti-Trump, Ace, but unlike those afflicted with TDS, I appreciate how you can at least objectively realize Trump is accomplishing more than any of the GOPe shills (or conservative pretenders) ever has.

Nothing wrong with being skeptical, but so far, Trump has been much more reasonable than I ever expected, and all I wanted was to keep Hillary out and punch back at the left for once!

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (LpV0I)

57 Oh, that's a good tweet. Good going Mollie.

The meltdown of these guys is also surreal to watch. I think Jonah will be bald after 8 years of Trump.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:46 PM (fceHP)

I think I was most disappointed by Goldberg....not that I really gave-a-sh!t about any of them. His NT'ism just seemed odd to me.

Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Enq6K)

58 Fred Sanford had a better chance of winning that primary. #YouBigDummy2018

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Agn5J)

59 Not that I agree, but Rothenberg wrote in Roll Call this morning that the "Blue wave" for the House is alive and well.

Does he have any evidence - other than "because I really, really, really want it to be true" - to support that? Because the primary results sure aren't supporting that. At all.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (wzkM8)

60 I love Molly's little smirk when she's on Special Report.

Posted by: WisRich at June 13, 2018 12:42 PM (G0vdT)
.............

It's cute. And sexy.

Posted by: wth at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (HgMAr)

61 Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies.

Whiny baby cry baby needs a bottle bitch babies???

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (+lOpA)

62 It's the end of democracy when people vote!!!

Posted by: Libs at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (vDqXW)

63 Remember
There is no you in BONUS
But there is a you in F U

Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (P6KKD)

64 So ole Mark was a NeverTrumper and a member of the Freedom Caucus? How, exactly, did that work?

He luvs him some freedoms as long as Trump isn't in support of them?

Ah well, Mark, now with the loss of that steady House paycheck those child support payments are gonna be a tougher row to hoe.

I hear IHoB is hiring.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (0ogQG)

65 "WTF Conservative" is apt.

NeverTrumpers may as well just start calling themselves socialists, because that is what they are enabling.

Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (xjiRE)

66 They need a new club, something like Conservatives for Marxism.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 13, 2018 12:50 PM (7ZVPa)

67 >>Does he have any evidence - other than "because I really, really, really want it to be true" - to support that? Because the primary results sure aren't supporting that. At all.

Yahoo News - yes, I know - had a big exclusive today about one measly win in WI yesterday means the end of Trump. And that's why no one reads Yahoo News.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (Agn5J)

68 Yes, the dark road to victory and conservative policies, God knows we wouldn't want that...[makes wanking motion]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (RD7QR)

69

Many of us wanted a complete upheaval of the GOP, and tbh I thought we would need a 3rd party to overcome the establishment. A 3rd party was risky because the Dems could clutch wins from that point on into eternity, so this is a much easier way to get there. But it is being cultivated before our very eyes and the Never Trumpers are losing their grip (and money) on what establishment is left. Some are jumping ship (Ryan). Amazing times.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (fceHP)

70 Miss Lindsey has been taking notes. Notice how he's all Team Trump now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (ptqGC)

71 "Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies." Amen. Little Billy Kristol is nothing without constant attention, so ignore him and all the whiners.

Posted by: Locke Common at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (GD/ZV)

72 I have no idea who Avi Woolf is. Nor do I care what he/she thinks. And Mollie is correct. Nobody outside their bubble cares what the NeverTrumpers think, either.

Trump may have tweeted that jab at Sanford late in the day and it likely had no effect on his vote totals; however, I'd like to believe that his constituents knew of his anti-Trumpism and jettisoned him for that reason.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun & Rolled Up Man Pants at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (mQ0Mc)

73 The never Trumpers are nothing but Deep State Turds (note addition to AoS Style guide DSTs) and they needs the appropriate treatment of all turds ----- a thorough flushing.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (o6hCV)

74 Why won't you let us lose???

--NeverTrump

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (4ErVI)

75 59 Not that I agree, but Rothenberg wrote in Roll Call this morning that the "Blue wave" for the House is alive and well.

Does he have any evidence - other than "because I really, really, really want it to be true" - to support that? Because the primary results sure aren't supporting that. At all.
Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (wzkM

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I haven't read it, but it's probably the generic ballot turning Democrat.

Always take those skeptically.

Confidence intervals, bad data, and time from election mean that they cannot be guaranteed.

I like looking at the motion over the series (trending Republican/Democrat), but that's it's general use right now this far out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (EvBgT)

76 >>>So ole Mark was a NeverTrumper and a member of the Freedom Caucus? How, exactly, did that work?

Apparently, membership in the Freedom Caucus is as easy as banging Kirsten Gillibrand.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (Agn5J)

77 And if they don't sweep in 2026, they must sweep in 2028! And I will fight any one of you faggots in The Octagon!

Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative! at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (O5Q3r)

78 Heh, saw on Twitchy:

It's Happening.
Two Norwegian lawmakers have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: WisRich at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (G0vdT)

79 Yahoo News - yes, I know - had a big exclusive today about one measly win in WI yesterday means the end of Trump. And that's why no one reads Yahoo News.
Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (Agn5J)

the problem is a lot of people read Yahoo news because it's embedded in their daily lives apps and so forth

it's really everywhere

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (fceHP)

80 74 Why won't you let us lose???

--NeverTrump
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (4ErVI)

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*ahem*

You are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (EvBgT)

81 51 And if they don't sweep in 2024, they must sweep in 2026!
Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative!

I've been hearing for the last 15 years or so that the next election was the death of the Republican party because of changing demographics. Whites are only 70% of the electorate, so they aren't that important.

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (LpV0I)

82 Conservatives for Marxism

You owe me one keyboard and I may have hurt myself.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (Boy/L)

83 Why won't you let us lose???

--NeverTrump

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (4ErVI)

I'm doing my best.

Posted by: RuPaul Ryan at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (HgMAr)

84 43
Can someone, anyone, explain how putting Nancy Pelosi - Nancy. F*cking.
Pelosi - in charge of the HOR in any measurable, practical way advances
what these so called #TruCons claim to support?

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:47 PM (wzkM

***
There are no #nevertreump conservatives. This tiny and ever shrinking group of dog turds are simply liberal uniparty operatives who claim to be conservatives so they can attempt to operate behind "enemy" lines.

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (Fb9aZ)

85 >>>Miss Lindsey has been taking notes. Notice how he's all Team Trump now.

Meh, I heard him shrieking yesterday about the cancellation of war games in Korea. He's pro-Trump only when it fits him.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (Agn5J)

86 Heh.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the author (at the link) is correct that Trump already knew Arrington would win when he tweeted his support of her and trashed Sanford.

Trump had said nothing about that primary earlier, AFAIK, and then only a couple of hours before the polls close....BOOM!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (0jtPF)

87 Outside of legit PR and marketing purposes, Twitter is a bubble of hell, walled off from reality and populated by the mentally ill.

Posted by: BluesFish at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (8a9B8)

88 Who's Avi Woolf ?

One of the many problems with Twitter: it elevates (however slightly) nobodies who would have been muttering into a glass of whiskey at a local bar in pre-Internet times and ignored by everyone else.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (ct0K5)

89 Yahoo News - yes, I know - had a big exclusive today about one measly win in WI yesterday means the end of Trump.

What happened? Some special election flipped a red state senate district blue so IT'S ALL OVER FOR TRUMPITLER!!!! or something?

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (wzkM8)

90 18 Sanford was an unfaithful and reckless snake.

Guy needs to fuck off and go be with his Venezuelean cooz.
__________________

His Argentine mistress dumped him several years ago.

She was ahead of the crowd.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (fqUgw)

91 >>> She's going to lead welfare reform and decrease the deficit. Why are you laughing?

In that closed meeting a while back, weren't the top dem goals (once they wrest POTUS from Trump) listed as universal health care, free higher ed for all, and racial reparations? In touch and sane, the dems are not. Nancy least of all.

Posted by: LizLem at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (hvf9s)

92 I love Molly's little smirk when she's on Special Report.

It's quite endearing.

Posted by: pep at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (wW03z)

93 Heh, saw on Twitchy:

It's Happening.

Two Norwegian lawmakers have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: WisRich at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (G0vdT)

Oh, please let this happen. The faces on MSLSD and CNN would rival those after Trump's election.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (ptqGC)

94 82 Conservatives for Marxism

You owe me one keyboard and I may have hurt myself.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (Boy/L)

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Separating people into classes, dictating how everyone should live their lives from a centralized and unelected authority, and starvation is the conservative choice, don't ya know?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (EvBgT)

95 >>>the problem is a lot of people read Yahoo news because it's embedded in their daily lives apps and so forth

I saw it while checking email.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (Agn5J)

96 Tomorrow.

Posted by: mrp at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (Pqytn)

97 the reason NeverTrump calls the DJT base a cult is because NeverTrump is a cult. it is LGF on the Capital Bikeshare

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (tu5OU)

98 "Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (EvBgT)"

He tries to rule out all the regular indicatives. Poorly. He even goes after the Presidents approval rating and RCP averages.

It's worth a read only for the thinking.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (QQ1E1)

99 90 18 Sanford was an unfaithful and reckless snake.

Guy needs to fuck off and go be with his Venezuelean cooz.
__________________

His Argentine mistress dumped him several years ago.

She was ahead of the crowd.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (fqUgw)

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Apparently he dumped her.

She said that he did it as soon as it was politically feasible.

Not that I care about the personal life of my politicians.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (EvBgT)

100 61 Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies.

But you're literally killing children!

Posted by: David Hogg at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (LpV0I)

101 Is Jazz Shaw a conservative? Then why is he flipping on Morning Schmoe? And by the way, Schmoe must be jealous of Sanford's comeback, considering the odds of Schmoe ever making one because someone wound up dead in his congressional office.

Posted by: mercenary13 at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (Dzxud)

102 "The worst enemies are the traitors on your own side."

Are you going to talk that way about people who are more principled than you or I?

Posted by: Drider at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (HdKKm)

103 91 >>> She's going to lead welfare reform and decrease the deficit. Why are you laughing?

In that closed meeting a while back, weren't the top dem goals (once they wrest POTUS from Trump) listed as universal health care, free higher ed for all, and racial reparations? In touch and sane, the dems are not. Nancy least of all.
Posted by: LizLem at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (hvf9s)

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In touch with the latest ramblings on Tumblr, yes, they most certainly are.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (EvBgT)

104 USCCB criticizes use of family separation.

Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (bInUb)

105 Separating people into classes, dictating how everyone should live their lives from a centralized and unelected authority, and starvation is the conservative choice, don't ya know?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (EvBgT)
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Nothing more conservative than mass slavery.

Posted by: Bill Krystol at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (vDqXW)

106 Fred Sanford had a better chance of winning that primary. "

da du da da da....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (7LY+6)

107 Any guesses as to when Sanford switches over to Dem and runs for office in SC?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly known as MrCaniac at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (fdTrp)

Well, he's already been governor and dems don't do particularly well....however, some state offices can be very rewardin$.

Posted by: BignJames at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (0+nbW)

108 I think I was most disappointed by Goldberg....not that I really gave-a-sh!t about any of them. His NT'ism just seemed odd to me.
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Enq6K)

yeah, sad really.

He is now so knee-jerking angry all of the time. I guess because his ego got so inflated within that beltway, that his narcissism took over. He cannot admit he was wrong. That is what it has come down to for many of them. They were so wrong, so horribly inaccurate that they cannot reconcile this with themselves.

The left is different in a way, they would have to admit their entire ideology has been a failure.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (fceHP)

109 >>>Is Jazz Shaw a conservative?

He's a Hugh Hewitt conservative. Very squishy, IMO.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (Agn5J)

110 Why are so many NT conservatives on Twitter freaking out about Corey Stewart in VA and calling him a neo-confederate? I understand he said nice things about Paul Nehlen, which was not smart but before Nehlen revealed himself as a nasty bigot. Is there more?

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (OD2ni)

111 Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies.

But you're literally killing children!

Posted by: David Hogg at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (LpV0I)

Your 15 minutes are up, Shitler.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (ptqGC)

112 Fat Fuck Erickson must have been conflicted between Sanford the lying adulterer but with the NeverTrump appeal. Some binge eating surely ensued.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (y7DUB)

113 It's Happening.

Two Norwegian lawmakers have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump should refuse it saying that it became worthless once it was awarded to Obama.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (FWsqf)

114 74 Why won't you let us lose???

--NeverTrump
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (4ErVI)

But seriously...it's like they're chewing off their foot to escape the trap of having to win.

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (+lOpA)

115 They need a new club, something like Conservatives for Marxism.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada

I'd rather just give them the club.

Good and hard.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (zfrbv)

116 >>It's Happening.
Two Norwegian lawmakers have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Eh, I'd like him to complete his NK negotiations first. It was an excellent 1st meeting, but I don't want another aspirational Peace Prize going to a POTUS.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (W+vEI)

117 Apparently he dumped her.

She said that he did it as soon as it was politically feasible.

Not that I care about the personal life of my politicians.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (EvBgT)

Isn't the most politically feasible time to get rid of your mistress before she becomes your mistress in the first place?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (mk7Bj)

118 In the wider analogy of "politics as pro sport," this is where some fans start rooting for their team to tank.

Except, newsflash for the Twitterati fucknuggets - there are no draft picks in politics. You know the prize for losing? Being a loser. That's it. No silver medal. No consolation prize. Do not pass Go, but do go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (9DKXC)

119 Hooting apes gotta get their hoot on.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (REkPr)

120 So, has McCain's tumor weighed in yet?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (+lVUW)

121 USCCB criticizes use of family separation.

Well there's a shocker.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (wzkM8)

122 117 Apparently he dumped her.

She said that he did it as soon as it was politically feasible.

Not that I care about the personal life of my politicians.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (EvBgT)

Isn't the most politically feasible time to get rid of your mistress before she becomes your mistress in the first place?
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (mk7Bj)

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Touche.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (EvBgT)

123 * Weird how I could figure out the unavoidable trajectory of putting oneself into direct opposition to one's party -- that personal feelings and egotistical impulses would, as they always do, begin to harden opposition from an ideological objection to a deeply personal and bitter emotional alienation -- and thereby lead, inevitably, to finding a new group of Political Friends to be friendly friends with, but the people who assure us all every single day on Twitter that They're the People Who Really Understand Politics and They're the Experts and Serious You Guys They Went to College and Stuff couldn't figure this fucking shit out, and in fact still can't 18 months later.
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Nevertrumpers have much greater sunk costs/investments in the GOPe and so their calculations are different. Which is to say their calculations were driven more by self interest and less by ideology than were say, the calculations of a hordling.

Posted by: simplemind at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (dw8c2)

124 Is Jazz Shaw a conservative?
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My impression is that he was the "reactionary" of Hot Air.

.... so tallest midget...

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (vDqXW)

125 >>>Eh, I'd like him to complete his NK negotiations first.

Agreed. Don't accept an award until after it is truly earned.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (Agn5J)

126 "Conservatives for Marxism"

sounds like Castro back in the 1950s. he grew out his beard to look like an old school Cuban farmer.

Margarita might know more, I am basing this off Havana Nocturne.

what's Useful Durak in Caribbean Spanish?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (tu5OU)

127 Eh my Never Trumpism quickly went by the wayside after the election, but it may be the fact that it was intellectual, unlike Kristol et al.

I thought he was HRCs ringer (Ross Perot 2.0) and if somehow he won he would govern as a liberal.

The first, like any good conspiracy theory, is unprovable. Though the amount of spying the Stasi did on him makes it look unlikely.

The second point was easily disproven once he started governing and appointing. And so like any intellectual i modified my position based on new information.

Posted by: HowardDevore at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (LlkoU)

128 Bingo. Never heard of this Avi dude, but its pretty obvious he's no conservative. Why even pay these fools heed? They have zero influence, zero impact on policy, zero input on what is happening, and never have accomplished anything of value in their lives for America. Who cares what they say as they sit around in their room yelling at clouds?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 12:45 PM (39g3+)

I doubt he's the only nevertrumper voicing this shit. It's just that he's got some convenient tweets to use as an example.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (lKs2v)

129 Apparently he dumped her.

She said that he did it as soon as it was politically feasible.

Not that I care about the personal life of my politicians.
_______________

He announced on Facebook a few years ago that they had called off their engagement. He blamed it on the stress of his divorce.

A few days later, the mistress gave an interview to the NY Times, and she said that she had been the one who had called off the marriage. She said that she was tired of him constantly putting it off, and she felt that he was just stringing her along so he could use her in his campaigns.

He's a known liar, so I choose to believe her version.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (fqUgw)

130 Eh, I'd like him to complete his NK negotiations first. It was an excellent 1st meeting, but I don't want another aspirational Peace Prize going to a POTUS.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (W+vEI)

Come on, it's not like Trump would be tarnishing the sterling reputation of the Peace Prize. It's always been a joke, we'll just get to be the ones laughing for once.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (mk7Bj)

131 "Perhaps it's time to just stop paying attention to whiny babies."

As noisemakers on the various talking head shows they are phenomenal, it's just that where results count at the ballot box they are nothing. Most people who vote could barely name who all of these opinion-makers, thought-leaders, and guardians if ideological purity actually are. And it isn't that those voters are uniformed, it's just that the information they value are things like their personal economy, the threat of war, keeping stupid annoyances away and not "muh principles" or any other part of the ideological edifice that these pundits represent.

(*I will continue to employ them in GSW shorts, though.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (hLRSq)

132 104
USCCB criticizes use of family separation.

Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 12:55 PM (bInUb)

Being Catholic, all I got is "who cares". They totally lost my respect with their stance on Obamacare and how they coddled Obama despite all the warnings.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (jxbfJ)

133 @64

The House Freedom Caucus, like the GOP is a con.

They have accomplished, NOTHING, and have advanced, NOTHING.

They are the Washington Generals to the GOP Washington Generals.

The game goes like this...

The Generals and the unter-Generals meet at mid court for the tip off.

Ref throws the ball in the air

Ball drops to the court as both teams run back to their net and preform the curly shuffle for 40 minutes.

The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

The HFC caucus are the fleas upon the pile of dogshit.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (UfMVm)

134 Guy needs to fuck off and go be with his Venezuelean cooz.
...........

Doe she do butt stuff? Because I bet she has some serious dingleberries.

Posted by: wth at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (HgMAr)

135 He cannot admit he was wrong. That is what it has come down to for many of them.

This.

Plus the abdication of responsibility. See, if Jeb! had been the nominee and then inevitably lost, they could pick around the edges of whatever policy monstrosities the Bollard Whisperer put forward. Now?

Well, a. Trump doesn't care what they think, b. they can't really argue policy, so c. they hold their collective bratty breath.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (Boy/L)

136 I gotta share this.

Latest Gubernatorial poll for Maryland Democratic candidates has this one little thing to make you chuckle.

In response to the question of which Democrat will you vote for in the closed Democratic Primary....

#1. I'm waiting to vote for Governor Hogan (R) in the general (30%)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (EyPfd)

137 52 So - along these lines - someone called in to the Weekly Standard to complain about the #NeverTrump cucksters and left this message on their machine.
Pure. Gold.

https://tinyurl.com/yaxwabqq

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Fb9aZ)

All right which one of you guys placed this call?

Holy shit that's intense.

Confirms what I've thought for a few years now though: there's no going back. Is this guy going back? No fucking way. I suspect most of us feel the same.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (4ErVI)

138 70 Miss Lindsey has been taking notes. Notice how he's all Team Trump now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 12:51 PM (ptqGC)

Maybe removing Songbird McGlioblastoma's hand from his ass had an effect.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (WDCYi)

139 12 I love Molly's little smirk when she's on Special Report.
Posted by: WisRich

I love that slightly crooked smile and what it would mean if she was doing it just for me, which of course she is.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (kfcYC)

140 When I think of what Trump has done to this party : lowering taxes, trying to control our borders, reigning in the EPA, banging porn-stars and supermodels, it makes me ill. I yearn for the good olde days of bipartisanship and compromise and the rare win. I feel like I'm on crazy pills. Hopefully John McCain can recover and take back our party.

Posted by: Koncerned Kristian Konservative at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (4e+hS)

141 If they don't sweep in 2018, they'll weep in 2020.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (BKAvB)

142 While I empathize with some of the feelings of the guy who called "The Weekly Standard" it always disturbs me when people either write or say to others regarding political opinions " F off off and die." Having been told by people on the internet that they hoped my son died in front of me from AIDS merely because I didn't support Obama, I just cringe when people say that kind of thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (0/+vJ)

143 Trumps foreign policy: America, Fuck Yeah!!!

Love dat man.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (o2MD2)

144 ...That is what it has come down to for many of them. They were so wrong,
so horribly inaccurate that they cannot reconcile this with themselves...

True wisdom starts with being able to self reflect and admit it when you're wrong. Goldberg lacks it.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (FWsqf)

145 136 I gotta share this.

Latest Gubernatorial poll for Maryland Democratic candidates has this one little thing to make you chuckle.

In response to the question of which Democrat will you vote for in the closed Democratic Primary....

#1. I'm waiting to vote for Governor Hogan (R) in the general (30%)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (EyPfd)

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And we would all hate him if he were a national politician.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:00 PM (EvBgT)

146 88 Who's Avi Woolf ?

One of the many problems with Twitter: it elevates (however slightly) nobodies who would have been muttering into a glass of whiskey at a local bar in pre-Internet times and ignored by everyone else.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (ct0K5)

Well stated.

Posted by: rickl at June 13, 2018 01:00 PM (xjiRE)

147 He cannot admit he was wrong. That is what it has come down to for many of them. They were so wrong, so horribly inaccurate that they cannot reconcile this with themselves.

The left is different in a way, they would have to admit their entire ideology has been a failure.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:56 PM (fceHP)

Exactly! And they don't realize the louder they scream about Trump, the more insane they look.

Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 01:00 PM (Enq6K)

148 They cant believe this "dope", Trump, is outpacing and out accomplishing their god-kings and conservative Mensa Club members.

Folks. The man is not a successful billionaire because he's an idiot. But you keep jerking that chicken.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 13, 2018 01:00 PM (QQ1E1)

149 Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 12:58 PM (UfMVm)
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Translation = ARRRHGGGGABA

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (y3aQB)

150 "USCCB criticizes use of family separation.

Well there's a shocker.
Posted by: DocJ"

Useless organization. Just another reason to list for my explanation for refusing to give to the Cardina;'s Annual Appeal.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (OD2ni)

151 His NT'ism just seemed odd to me.

Unless he used a ghostwriter, he should be running a victory lap. What the left and media are doing today directly validates his books.

I saw him speak in Austin a few weeks ago. He seems to go out of his way not to point out that the way the left is acting now is exactly what he wrote about. Now he is pounding a different book, Suicide of the West, and it sounds like he is often right in it. But will he turn around tomorrow and decide he was not right there either?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (2lndx)

152 Cardinal DiNardo: Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together. While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.

Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (bInUb)

153 Devore, I flipped from mildly Trump-curious to full MAGA after the 2016 Convention and volunteered. I hope we can count on your help this year :^)

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (tu5OU)

154 I *would* like Trump to actually get results from the NK agreement before he gets the Peace Prize, but that would sully the tradition in which Barack Obama was awarded the Peace Prize by asking for actual low-brow crowd-pleasers like results.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (vDqXW)

155 Confirms what I've thought for a few years now though: there's no going back. Is this guy going back? No fucking way. I suspect most of us feel the same.

PDJT is the last hope I put in political solutions to our vast and growing problems.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (wzkM8)

156 Best part is that tweeters talk of conservatism.

Forget Trump's personality, the surface stuff that makes him so unappealing, and look at what he's accomplishing: Gorsuch, many conservative judge appointments, slashing regulations, cutting federal agencies' expenditures, tax cut, reducing unemployment, reducing food stamps, rooting out illegal alien criminals and deporting them, challenging state-level lawlessness re: sanctuary cities, and on an on.

You'd think it would be possible to look past the personality and appreciate how conservative his promises are, and that he's following through on them!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (W+vEI)

157 23 And if we don't sweep in 2020, we must sweep in 2022!
Posted by: Avi Woof, Barking Connservative!

We. Ha ha ha.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (kfcYC)

158

The only reason to even acknowledge these N-T'ers is to mock and ridicule them relentlessly. Per one of Alinsky's R4R.

I can't recall any basis for their opposition to Trump out here in the real world. It's all just "dangerous" for some reason that never gets identified. Well, so is driving a car but the overwhelming majority of people do it all the time without incident.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (HaL55)

159

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (wzkM8)

160 R-Roll out the barrel...

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (vDqXW)

161 Not that I care about the personal life of my politicians.

--

In his case though, he disappeared into thin air (aka another country) while governor to meet with his gal. Even his staff didn't know where he was and couldn't get a hold of him. That's pretty bad and a point where his personal life disastrously intersected with his professional life.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun & Rolled Up Man Pants at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (mQ0Mc)

162 Is this Avi Woolf cuck my long lost love child with my sweetie dearest Jimmy Wolfe?!?!

Posted by: Ali Watkins at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (51lr/)

163 Stephen Blair, I hope you got your waders on

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (tu5OU)

164 Hillary Clinton certainly earned her 2009 Margaret Sanger Award.

Posted by: mrp at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (Pqytn)

165 Mark Sanford lost a primary yesterday, but Bill Kristol lost his mind.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yac28flf

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (LISuA)

166 I think I was most disappointed by Goldberg....not that I really gave-a-sh!t about any of them. His NT'ism just seemed odd to me.
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Enq6K)

Kristol was the real shocker for me. Others warned me about what a turncoat snake he is but I figured I was a better judge of character than they were. I need to be humiliated like that every now and then.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (y7DUB)

167 I think I hear The Barrel's tummy rumbling

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (wzkM8)

168 >>>But the party and especially its members are going down a dark road and I fear winning 2018 will be seen as a vindication of that, with ramifications for a long time.

And if the Dems win, their "dark road" would be preferable, eh?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (/qEW2)

169 78
Heh, saw on Twitchy:

It's Happening.

Two Norwegian lawmakers have nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: WisRich at June 13, 2018 12:52 PM (G0vdT)

Meh.

Somehow it will be used as a club against him. Nominated and then lose by 100% of the vote, except for some guy named Shmadolph Hittner.

Or they award it to him and like everyone else turns theirs in (excepting for the cash).

Call me when they are begging him to take it.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (ymnmz)

170 152 Cardinal DiNardo: Our government has the discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together. While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.
Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (bInUb)

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Mothers shouldn't knowingly take their children into situations that will lead them to be forcefully separated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (EvBgT)

171 I don't think it's weird at all that you figured it out: you're not a hater. And especially not a hater bent on full-monty hating.

All the talk about the NTers being NTers because they need to be popular with the right people is a small truth. The large truth is that "they hates Trumpses forever" because their precious tastes have been deeply offended and they lost any power they were convinced they had, to influence.

As crazy as they are, I don't think they imagine they can influence the faithful of their enemy?

Bret Stephens is the best example of a wigged-out, we've got to teach our rubes a lesson, and how.

They all have, and will continue to have, enough money. But it can't buy them a non-partisan ear, to say nothing of respect.

Someone ought to commence a study on how offended taste has guided history.

Posted by: MLD at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (Bt7Nk)

172 Tomorrow.

Posted by: mrp at June 13, 2018 12:54 PM (Pqytn)

Tomorrow
We'll start the day tomorrow with a song

Posted by: wth at June 13, 2018 01:03 PM (HgMAr)

173 NeverTrump is just pussies to scared to say FukTrump!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:03 PM (JFO2v)

174 Neo-cons are the easiest to flip back to their natural home on the left. They're basically social liberals who like war.

The left is welcome to have them back.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 01:03 PM (wzkM8)

175 Well, fiddlesticks.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 13, 2018 01:03 PM (2lndx)

176 161 Not that I care about the personal life of my politicians.

--

In his case though, he disappeared into thin air (aka another country) while governor to meet with his gal. Even his staff didn't know where he was and couldn't get a hold of him. That's pretty bad and a point where his personal life disastrously intersected with his professional life.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun & Rolled Up Man Pants at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (mQ0Mc)

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Of course, but he hasn't vanished like that since I've moved to SC.

So, I don't care if he cheated on his wife with his girlfriend whom he was using purely for political purposes..

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:03 PM (EvBgT)

177 "In response to the question of which Democrat will you vote for in the closed Democratic Primary....

#1. I'm waiting to vote for Governor Hogan (R) in the general (30%)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice"

It is amazing that the Dems have pretty much conceded that race. While I have not been happy with everything that Hogan has done, I realize that he is probably the best we can do here and a thousand times better than O'Malley.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (OD2ni)

178 So - along these lines - someone called in to the Weekly Standard to
complain about the #NeverTrump cucksters and left this message on their
machine.

Pure. Gold.

https://tinyurl.com/yaxwabqq

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Fb9aZ)

Wow. He poured gasoline on the WS offices and threw a match on it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (ptqGC)

179 Hoping for Asslick Baldwin to run for POTUS. That loudmouth dunger needs some comeuppance, bigtime.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (o2MD2)

180 >>> I think I was most disappointed by Goldberg....not that I really gave-a-sh!t about any of them. His NT'ism just seemed odd to me.
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Enq6K)

yeah, sad really.

....

I've never understood people who respected Goldberg. I always thought he was a shallow, glib twat who only seemed "smart" because he had done exactly two weeks more research than the readers he was hoping to impress.

If I go on to Wikipedia and read up on Structural Linguistics right before I post here, I think I could sound kinda-informed on Structural Linguistics, so long as I could just talk about what I wanted to talk about and thus avoid anyone probing to see exactly what I know and what I don't know.

Also, he has a character defect I cannot forgive: He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (8rNrN)

181 "a group behaving in the most primitive tribal fashion forming a new tribe and demonizing the old tribe bemoaning the tribalism of the tribe they've decided to make war on"
Ima thinkin' they were always the establishment tribe, with a left and right faction. But the right faction was still BigGovRight, not real power to the people right. And the BigGovLeft was never "power to the people" either. They all just want invites to the CuckTail parties where they don't have real power, but get to watch the RealPower people (? Soros, Banksters, ShadowMen ?) screwing over the proles.

As long as they get to rub elbows with the RealPower (DeepStateMob, ForeignSheiks/Kings/Dictators) ... they are at least better than "US".

Posted by: illiniwek at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (bT8Z4)

182 148
They cant believe this "dope", Trump, is outpacing and out accomplishing their god-kings and conservative Mensa Club members.

Folks. The man is not a successful billionaire because he's an idiot. But you keep jerking that chicken.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 13, 2018 01:00 PM (QQ1E1)

I heard he used the wrong spoon to stir his covfefe.

Posted by: Barky O Numnuts at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (ymnmz)

183 WTF is wrong with these people?? Trump has had success after success despite their overt interference. Just think of what he could have done for this country if they had worked WITH him. Perhaps a little of their agendas could have been furthered. Now he has gotten the NorKs to agree to peace, something no other president has done and there is a great deal of talk about a Nobel Peace Prize for him. Nothing may come of this initiative, yet he has still got them talking nice, but that's not good enough for the neverTrumpers despite the fact that they have never gotten close to this point. As for me, I am quite proud of my vote a year and a half ago, something I have never been able to say in forty years.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (IuYIh)

184 Forget it, Nicholas...It's Sanford.

Posted by: PC Danny Butterman at June 13, 2018 01:05 PM (oVJmc)

185 You know how in any poll or election result there is ALWAYS about 8-10% of Republicans who vote for Democrats? Like clockwork.

These are NeverTrumpers. They are already accounted for and so never sway anything.

They've just finally identified themselves as the 8-10% who label themselves Republicans but vote Democrat.

They are literally powerless.

Posted by: Pudding Puff at June 13, 2018 01:05 PM (3FtG5)

186 In his case though, he disappeared into thin air (aka another country)
while governor to meet with his gal. Even his staff didn't know where he
was and couldn't get a hold of him. That's pretty bad and a point where
his personal life disastrously intersected with his professional life.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun Rolled Up Man Pants at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (mQ0Mc)

He told his family and his staff he was hiking the Appalachian Trail.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

187 170Mothers shouldn't knowingly take their children into situations that will lead them to be forcefully separated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (EvBgT)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 13, 2018 01:05 PM (jxbfJ)

188 19
repost of the nevertrumper's takedown

Why does the commentariat so despise Trump's success?

https://tinyurl.com/yc6yqrsf

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (fceHP)

Simple, Hillary didn't win.

From 2008-2016, they saw that they could author books that laid out their idealized version of Conservatism while knowing that they had a Democrat in the White House that would not do anything conservative. So, they were the "True Conservative Vanguard".
Now, they can't write books on how bad President Hillary is, and they have to sit back and watch their leftist friends rake in the $$$ bitching about how Donny Two Scoops is giving them a serious case of the butthurts.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly known as MrCaniac at June 13, 2018 01:05 PM (fdTrp)

189 179
Hoping for Asslick Baldwin to run for POTUS. That loudmouth dunger needs some comeuppance, bigtime.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (o2MD2)

How's that pronounced?
Looks like a weird combination of Germerman an Irish.

Posted by: Aswipe Jones at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (ymnmz)

190 153 Devore, I flipped from mildly Trump-curious to full MAGA after the 2016 Convention and volunteered. I hope we can count on your help this year :^)
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM (tu5OU)

I thought Trump could be a poser who wanted to do it for the fame, but he's been a nuclear sledge where it needs to hit.

Posted by: muckrack at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (DoqY9)

191 I'll pretend to be NeverTrump for the the ten minutes I need to socially tribalising Abigail Shapiro's dynamic psychology.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (51lr/)

192
Still boggles the mind doesn't it, that these people still believe the corrupt drunk bollard lover Hillary would be a better POTUS.

EGO! huh, what is it good for? Absolutely Nothin!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (r+sAi)

193 "Do they not understand human psychology, human social group dynamics,
and the natural (if regrettable) tendency to magnify differences between
In-Group and Out-Group to create higher In-Group solidarity and higher
levels of hatred towards the Out-Group?"

Many people poo poo the idea of psychology, as a body of knowledge, as a "scientific" endeavor.

Lemme tell ya, you may not believe in psychology, but trust me on this, psychology believes in YOU!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (9chmE)

194 Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is wrong with people in SC if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL as governor to bang a mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his state, wife and sons, to wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)

195 "... the people who assure us all every single day on Twitter that They're the People Who Really Understand Politics and They're the Experts and Serious You Guys They Went to College and Stuff couldn't figure this fucking shit out, and in fact still can't 18 months later."

It's probably way past time to establish the alma maters of these experts to find out which schools to avoid. When one matriculates and manages to exercise such accomplishment - such as it is - to the point of repeated public failure, then one a) probably isn't that bright, b) wasted that education drinking heavily, and/or c) learned the material only to discover, in hindsight, you got robbed by the school.

Keeping and publishing a list would be a public service. We need to document tangibly these Sites of Stupid.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (H8S+R)

196 @171

It's more basic than that.

These so-called Never Trumpers are charlatans and fraudes.

The are CON-servatives.

They mouth conservative cant and policy proscriptions but when rubber hits the road they are in their hearts coastal liberals.

They are corrupt, lying shit weasels.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (UfMVm)

197 as for the bishops, the diocese in Pennsylvania is being investigated for - get this - shuffling pedobears across parishes.

I got respect for almost all priests but their hierarchy has lost their right to preach politics to me. morals come first and they are weak in that.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (tu5OU)

198 >>While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.

*ahem*

Where was this concern when Obama was openly inviting central and south American families to send their unaccompanied minors across the border to serve as anchors for the rest of the family's dreams of immigration? These kids were sexually abused - something like 90% of them, not just a handful. That's what happens when you listen to Obama and entrust coyotes and cartels to transport your dear children across the border.

One of the most evil things Obama did, IMO.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (W+vEI)

199 Folks. The man is not a successful billionaire because he's an idiot. But you keep jerking that chicken.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 13, 2018 01:00 PM

Oh, we're not JERKING the chicken, but we are going to continue fucking it.

Posted by: Never Trump Gang at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (LpV0I)

200 Just think of what he could have done for this country if they had worked WITH him.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (IuYIh)
---
Forget it. They are part of the Party of the State.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (vDqXW)

201 Mothers shouldn't knowingly take their children into situations that will lead them to be forcefully separated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:02 PM (EvBgT)

Bam!

Posted by: Jen the original at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (NLeU8)

202 "Also, he has a character defect I cannot forgive: He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

Posted by: ace"

But Ace, he did research on Father Coughlin man.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (OD2ni)

203 Mark Sanford lost a primary yesterday, but Bill Kristol lost his mind.
............

That picture of Captain Bill was taken about 60 pounds ago.

Posted by: wth at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (HgMAr)

204 Looks like yesterday was a Really Bad Day for the Nevertrumpers because there were suddenly forced to realize that all of the Nevertrump congresscritters are either dropping out or being fired. They know even more than we do that, after watching Sandfords beating yesterday, every Republican in Congress now knows that they have to kiss up to Trump to keep their jobs.

And that means the NeverTrumpers have lost all of their influence and all of their allies who matter. Which apparently is why they're now hoping for Democrats to win, just like Mahler is hoping for a recession. Eric Erickso was whining about this over on his blog, too.

Here's the actual, objective Truth, neverTrumpers - you no longer have a place in the Republican party, that's over. You don't have a place in the Democrat party, either, no matter how much you may suck up to them. What this means, neverTrumpers, is that your days of speaking out and acting out in the political arena are over. You're a spent force, you're washed up, your time has run out. Go and find a nice job in either the Food Service or Home Sanitation industries, because that's where you're going to spend the rest of your working career.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (k1TUh)

205 I thought trump was faking it too. I am ever so glad to be wrong, wrong, wrong! Real deal with a supercharger.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (o2MD2)

206 Hoping for Asslick Baldwin to run for POTUS. That loudmouth dunger needs some comeuppance, bigtime.

Posted by: Xipe Totec

Election 2020: how many ways can the leftist ticket be split?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (rDwsX)

207 Still boggles the mind doesn't it, that these people
still believe the corrupt drunk bollard lover Hillary would be a better
POTUS.

EGO! huh, what is it good for? Absolutely Nothin!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (r+sAi)

It's all fairly simple though. They believe in the principle of unfettered illegal immigration, over all else. Nothing else trumps it for them.

Nothing.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (9chmE)

208 >>>Also, he has a character defect I cannot forgive: He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

The perfect encapsulation in one sentence.

Posted by: Wyatt at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (Agn5J)

209 152 Cardinal DiNardo: Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.

Fine, kiddie-diddler. You take them both in and the instant they step one foot outside both idiot mother and her brat go back from whence they came.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 01:07 PM (wzkM8)

210 Can someone, anyone, explain how putting Nancy Pelosi - Nancy. F*cking. Pelosi - in charge of the HOR in any measurable, practical way advances what these so called #TruCons claim to support?

"Dems in charge of the house will stop the Trump agenda and impeach him so that he can be replaced with Mike Pence who ~~the GOPe can control~~ is a true conservative and no icky like that Trump guy. Plus, it teaches Trump voters a lesson to shut up and obey or this is what they get.

"Besides, in our gated communities and column writing jobs, we make so much money that we can send our kids to private schools, keep out criminal illegals, pay for our own doctors, and just are not affected by leftist policies. So who cares what you all think?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (39g3+)

211 All right which one of you guys placed this call?

Holy shit that's intense.

I sympathize my good man, but can assure you that your anger is misguided! Perhaps a coupon for a 5% discount on our next cruise will assuage your anger and disdain!
Ahoy!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (O5Q3r)

212 Wasn't the show the Good Wife loosely based in Sanford's ex-wife?

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (Bdeb0)

213 Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is wrong with people in SC if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL as governor to bang a mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his state, wife and sons, to wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)
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Stop making sense!

Posted by: David Byrne at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (vDqXW)

214 Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is
wrong with people in SC if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL
as governor to bang a mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his
state, wife and sons, to wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)

The voters of SC corrected the situation yesterday.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (ptqGC)

215 It's time to start asking the important questions.

Like which girl with big yabos are we going to learn about today?

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (lKs2v)

216 120 So, has McCain's tumor weighed in yet?

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (+lVUW)

Still tumoring here, boss!

Posted by: McCain's Tumah at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (RD7QR)

217 Establsihment GOP and Establishment Democrats are two sides of the same globalist coin.

Of course you can expect them to side with Democrats in the face of an "America First" nationalist takeover of the party.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 13, 2018 01:09 PM (0nZ0h)

218 >>Hoping for Asslick Baldwin to run for POTUS. That loudmouth dunger needs some comeuppance, bigtime.

"I'm not a successful CEO of a Fortune 100 company, but I played one on tv..."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 01:09 PM (W+vEI)

219 Also, he has a character defect I cannot forgive: He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

This is why I stopped trying. I can get people to point at me and giggle enough in my regular life, and that will have to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:09 PM (39g3+)

220 @148

This Jordan Peterson analysis of Trump should be widely disseminated to all the Never Trumpers.

https://tinyurl.com/msbt6fg

Notice how Peterson analysis the question and leads the interviewer towards understanding.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:09 PM (UfMVm)

221 #1. I'm waiting to vote for Governor Hogan (R) in the general (30%)
==============

And the Sun endorsed Jealous this morning. The guv's race is going to be a election of contrasts between counties

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (9mMnj)

222

EM COCONUT ALMOND CHOCOLATE GELATO FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (mPeei)

223 He told his family and his staff he was hiking the Appalachian Trail.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

--

When he was actually on some Argentinian Tail.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (7ZVPa)

224 Never Trumpers October 2016: Vote for Hillary! Our conservative principles prevent us from electing a moral slimeball like Donald Trump.

Never Trumpers today: I can't believe the conservative base wouldn't look past Sanford's past and elected a true conservative instead!

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (LpV0I)

225 Cardinal DiNardo: Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.

...unless Obama does it then totes cool.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (39g3+)

226 He told his family and his staff he was hiking the Appalachian Trail.

I do in depth stories about this ALL the time.

Posted by: Ali Watkins at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (rDwsX)

227 Oh, dear. Bye, Stephen Price Blair.

Posted by: creeper at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (Kq2SQ)

228 "212 Wasn't the show the Good Wife loosely based in Sanford's ex-wife?
Posted by: wrg500"

Don't know. But Julianne Marouilles (sp?) has gotten hotter as she got older.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (OD2ni)

229 I love that slightly crooked smile and what it would mean if she was doing it just for me, which of course she is.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 13, 2018 12:59 PM (kfcYC)

ha

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (+lOpA)

230 125 >>>Eh, I'd like him to complete his NK negotiations first.

Agreed. Don't accept an award until after it is truly earned.
Posted by: Wyatt

Yes, the trophy wife rule.

Agreed, I hate it when they hand out participation trophies as you are walking in the door.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (kfcYC)

231 Personally, I am just plain tired of hearing nevertrumpers (why bother even capitalizing?) bleat about.... well, everything. Everything they say is just so much noise.

They're neverthink, not nevertrump.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (jjaLl)

232 While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.

--

Show if hands: is anyone opposed to letting the children leave with their parents if they do wish?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (mk7Bj)

233 It's time to start asking the important questions.

Like which girl with big yabos are we going to learn about today?
Posted by: buzzion

Threadwinner!!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM (9uM86)

234 Why does SC have so many shit politicians?

Miss Lindsey
Mark Argentina Stanford
Nikki Lady-Paolo Haley
Strom Dixie Thrurmond

Is there something in the water?

Has Jim Demint shamed himself or is he still OK?

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (51lr/)

235 Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together. While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.
Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon
____________________

Why should the burden be on us, and not on the foreign families that deliberately put their own children in danger by putting them in the hands of cartels and coyotes, or marching them across a hot desert with inadequate supplies? If these families cared anything about the safety and well-being of their children, they obviously wouldn't do that.

U.S. taxpayers spend billions of dollars every year providing shelter, food, medical care, and other types of services to these "loving" families who turn their own children over to vicious cartels and human smugglers, or who put their childrens' lives at risk in the hot desert, in order to get them illegally across our border. We don't owe their criminally irresponsible, law-breaking parents a damn thing, and quite frankly, separating these kids from their lousy parents is probably the best thing we could ever do for them.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (fqUgw)

236 The Establishment Conservatives are actually representatives of ChamberOfCommerce, Inc.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (oVJmc)

237 (Googles "Who the heck is Mark Sanford?" Reads a few results. OK, now I feel qualified to comment)

Well, these people's opinion (that the Democrats MUST retake the house in 201

only amplifies my opinion that the Democrats must NOT take back the house in 2018.

So I goess that makes things even.

Notice how this is part is the Left ever-escalating constant "crisis mode" where every election and every news cycle is the Most Important In History.

Yet somehow, the world keeps turning. Huh. Funny how that happens.

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (c+2jX)

238 213 Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is wrong with people in SC if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL as governor to bang a mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his state, wife and sons, to wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)
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Stop making sense!
Posted by: David Byrne at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (vDqXW)

=============

1) Name recognition is bipartisan and the field had 16 people in it. That gave him an initial huge leg up.

2) He's a fiscal conservative who came back into the House near the tail end of Obama's term when fiscal conservatism was still a top 3 concern among many conservative and Republican voters.

3) His campaign was actually pretty good.

4) Have you seen this guy in action? He's top tier retail politician. If he hadn't had that scandal, there's a solid chance he'd have had a serious shot at the Republican nomination in at least 2012 if not 2016.

5) Bill Clinton taught us that cheating on your wife is fine as long as you deliver what the constituency wants.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (EvBgT)

239 Hey, I got laid off this morning

Posted by: Neo at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (jCwj+)

240 The NT's don't have much left, now that the economy is revving along.
They had hoped Trump's brashness and/or boorish behavior would have people saying OMG. Couple that, with had the economy not picked up VERY NOTABLY - then the NT's may have had a chance.
I don't think they ever really believed in the collusion thing, just hoped it would be true and figure if they rode the pony for a bit, it (behavior, economy, etc.) would eventually come around into their favor.
Now, all they're stuck with is throwing baby food from their high-chair.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (bB4HN)

241
Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is wrong with people in SC
if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL as governor to bang a
mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his state, wife and sons, to
wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)

=========================
Based on my cursory study of the species, my take is that South Carolina voters don't expect much, if anything, from their politicians. Displays of Sacred Honor, of course, notwithstanding.

Posted by: mrp at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (Pqytn)

242 If only these supposed conservative leaders had some record of conservative accomplishments they could point to . . .

Of course, that requires work and fidelity to principles. So . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (TN1P5)

243
I understand people who think differently.

No, you don't. Not at all. If you did, there never would be a President Trump.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (BWL+E)

244 "It's time to start asking the important questions.

Like which girl with big yabos are we going to learn about today?
Posted by: buzzion "

Bill Kristol

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (OD2ni)

245 Next up...

Lindsay Graham

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (0nZ0h)

246 192

Still boggles the mind doesn't it, that these people still believe
the corrupt drunk bollard lover Hillary would be a better POTUS.

EGO! huh, what is it good for? Absolutely Nothin!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (r+sAi)

The most traveled SOC in the HERSTORY of the US, managed to off Khadffy and they screw the pooch on the peace afterward adding instability to the region.

PDT denuclearizes NK in two weeks with a coupon for a free drink at the 19th hole of Mar Lago.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (ymnmz)

247 Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (8rNrN)

I used to respect Goldberg, until it dawned on me exactly as you say: He brushes up on a topic just enough to hit the superficial keynotes, or to regurgitate someone else's analysis from fifty years ago and insert a fart joke in the middle of it.

Kinda like that Gell-Mann Amnesia thing. We're innately willing to cede "authority" very quickly to anyone putting in just enough effort.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (BRvh1)

248 245 Next up...

Lindsay Graham
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 13, 2018 01:12 PM (0nZ0h)

please please please..

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (ICWiF)

249 201-smiley face = 2018

goess - guess

Left = Left's

I call that ATFP -- After-The-Fact Proofreading. A terrible habit.

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (c+2jX)

250 If there was ever a group where the phrase "Party over
country" applied, it would be the NeverTrumpers. Except the party they're loyal to is the GOP as they wish it to be, not the GOP as it is.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (fq72/)

251 233 It's time to start asking the important questions.

Like which girl with big yabos are we going to learn about today?
Posted by: buzzion

Threadwinner!!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:10 PM

Still waiting for the AtC pixs.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (0tfLf)

252 Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is wrong with people in SC if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL as governor to bang a mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his state, wife and sons, to wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)
---
Stop making sense!
Posted by: David Byrne

The people of Delaware voted for the idiot Biden seven times. Seven *beeping* times.

They see shit like this, they take it as a challenge to their stupidity crown.

Do not taunt their stupidity. I know these people. They will descend to the challenge.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (rDwsX)

253 Where was this concern when Obama was openly inviting central and south American families to send their unaccompanied minors across the border to serve as anchors for the rest of the family's dreams of immigration? These kids were sexually abused - something like 90% of them, not just a handful. That's what happens when you listen to Obama and entrust coyotes and cartels to transport your dear children across the border.

One of the most evil things Obama did, IMO.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (W+vEI)

I read an interview with a rancher in AZ who said that he regularly found panties strewn in trees and plants along side other junk, plastic bags, etc. From what he has been told, the coyotes do that as a trophy sign when they rape the young girls they are bringing across the border.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (NLeU8)

254

Don't know. But Julianne Marouilles (sp?) has gotten hotter as she got older.
Posted by: Benji Carver

Not bad looking (never saw the show). According to Al Gore's amazing internet she's 51.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (Bdeb0)

255 Bishop Weisenburger: I also strongly support Cardinal Tobin. Maybe it's time for us to look for canonical penalties [for those who are involved in separating parents and children at the border].

Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (bInUb)

256 126 "Conservatives for Marxism"

sounds like Castro back in the 1950s. he grew out his beard to look like an old school Cuban farmer.

Margarita might know more, I am basing this off Havana Nocturne.

what's Useful Durak in Caribbean Spanish?
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 12:57 PM (tu5OU)
----------------------------------
Yeah, Castro was trying to look like the guajira (back country) guerillas of the independence movement against Spain.
Of course most men had beards back then but the country folk had beards that were bushier, not as carefully trimmed as the city boys. It was a distinctive look that Cubans would "get."

Can't tell you what "useful Durak" would be in Spanish because I have no idea what it means in English!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (0jtPF)

257 sorry about that Neo. hopefully something else can come up in this economy? it did for me

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 13, 2018 01:14 PM (tu5OU)

258 >>Also, he has a character defect I cannot forgive: He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

**whooshing sound, as thousands of internet-based eyes shift uneasily back and forth**

Posted by: pep at June 13, 2018 01:14 PM (3I/hX)

259 Posted by: Neo at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (jCwj+)

Sorry to hear that. Hope you find something else before too long.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2018 01:14 PM (0/+vJ)

260 239 Hey, I got laid off this morning
Posted by: Neo

Congratulations!

(Notices the word "off" after "laid.")

Oh, sorry. My condolences!

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:14 PM (c+2jX)

261 Avi Woolf, a member of the Jonah Goldberg Never Trumper Tribe.

Posted by: We're All Tribal Now at June 13, 2018 01:14 PM (EATOD)

262 Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (bInUb)

Didn't read that in your collected works.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (0/+vJ)

263 And the Sun endorsed Jealous this morning."

The guy who claims that children were freezing in schools all across the State.

While using video of students from Baltimore.

Oh, and he wants to stop cops from gunning down innocent black folk.

Yeh, it's gonna be an election fight between two different cultures.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (EyPfd)

264
Suspected intern killer Banjo Boy Scarborough had a meltdown as well.

At Breitbart.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (VM6ev)

265 Still waiting for the AtC pixs.
Posted by: Diogenes

Trust me you couldn't handle them

Posted by: Face size spider in AtC's closet at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (Bdeb0)

266 SC is a machine politics state.

That explains why it is the way it is.

Haley broke the machine and put Scott in as Senator which broke that part of the machine.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (Z5y53)

267 Why does SC have so many shit politicians?

--

Here, don'cha hold my beer.

Posted by: Minne-soda at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (suO/a)

268 255 Bishop Weisenburger: I also strongly support Cardinal Tobin. Maybe it's time for us to look for canonical penalties [for those who are involved in separating parents and children at the border].

Had I not left the catholic church after Newtown when they went all gun-grabby from the pulpit I'm pretty sure I'd still be long, long freaking gone by now

Time to start reconsidering their tax-exempt status.

Posted by: DocJ at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (wzkM8)

269 239 Hey, I got laid off this morning
Posted by: Neo at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM

Sorry to hear that. I can only hope the economy's improving well enough that a better job will come along soon.

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 01:16 PM (LpV0I)

270
Question: if not the Republican party, where are the NeverTrumpers going to go? Ideological enforcement within the Democrats is so Stalinist that any deviation will be brutally punished. What are they going to do, set up the New Whig Party?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:16 PM (BWL+E)

271

Wow. He poured gasoline on the WS offices and threw a match on it.

Somehow I always thought that The Empress' voice would be a bit higher.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 13, 2018 01:16 PM (HaL55)

272 239 Hey, I got laid off this morning
Posted by: Neo at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (jCwj+)

Serious question:

Does that warrant a "Hooray!" or an "Oh no!"

Because, you know... sometimes getting canned can be a blessing.

I'm waiting to offer up either response as indicated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:16 PM (BRvh1)

273 Damn, Neo.
That sux.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2018 01:16 PM (EyPfd)

274 266 SC is a machine politics state.

That explains why it is the way it is.

Haley broke the machine and put Scott in as Senator which broke that part of the machine.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (Z5y53)

===========

Lindsey is a product of it that has kept the machine going.

He inherited Strom Thurmond's seat, including his constituency services, which were (and still are) top notch.

It helps to create loyal voters when you call your senator, complain about Medicare not being right for your mother, and the senator fixes it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (EvBgT)

275 Let that sink in. The *Principled* Conservatives (TM) are upset because a governor left his wife and his state to hook up with a hottie from Argentina! WHITE in office--and married--lost a primary.

Man, I just can't handle all that Conservative-Principle-ness in one sitting!!

It must be why I've chosen Un-principled Conservativeness.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (vDqXW)

276 WTF is a "WTF Conservative", and why does his avatar look like an Oscar the Grouch dildo?

Posted by: josephistan at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (7HtZB)

277 Why does SC have so many shit politicians?

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Here, don'cha hold my beer.
Posted by: Minne-soda

I heard that. And so, it resumes...

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (rDwsX)

278 Trump is so crude and insulting. He's such an embarrassment to all of us here at the country club.

True conservatives, like George H.W., George W, and Jeb Bush, behaved as gentlemen. They didn't stoop to fighting back like cads.

The stunning victories for conservative causes that the Bush family has won for us should never be forgotten.

Posted by: Lifelong Conservative Republican at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (9vQJW)

279 >>>Families are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to stay together. While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find ways to ensure that safety. Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.
Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon
________
They ain't our society. They are foreign nationals and part of another foreign civilization.

We are reuniting them with their home Familiy through the generous act of a free deportation. If this electric mouse every becomes king then those deportations will come with a bill.

Make Deportations Profitable Again!

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (51lr/)

280 275 Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (vDqXW)

WHITE in office. I think I spotted the problem.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (VM6ev)

281 "Did they never notice the tendency of any insular group of like-minded
individuals to become more extreme and "purified" in their groupthink,
and more extreme in denouncing unbelievers?"

Never been to a Baptist convention?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (lwiT4)

282 277 Why does SC have so many shit politicians?

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Here, don'cha hold my beer.
Posted by: Minne-soda

I heard that. And so, it resumes...
Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (rDwsX)

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Pikers.

Posted by: Mississippi at June 13, 2018 01:18 PM (EvBgT)

283 By the way, I saw Trump disembarking Air Force One this morning when he arrived back from Singapore. Reporter commented that Trump had been awake for 25 hours.

I will say he looked tired with a bit of a bedhead. No tie, just a white polo shirt with a jacket thrown on, he came straight down the steps and into the limo. I would have liked to not hear anything from him today as I'm sure he can use the rest.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 13, 2018 01:18 PM (NLeU8)

284 Of course, but he hasn't vanished like that since I've moved to SC."

And OJ Simpson hasn't killed anyone in at least 20 years now.

So, I don't care if he cheated on his wife with his girlfriend whom he was using purely for political purposes.."

He didn't just "cheat on his wife". He walked off his job, when he was needed, and lied to everyone about where he was. That kind of behavior gets you fired for cause from any job in this country.

It also tells me that he is a self righteous sanctimonious fuck who thinks what HE wants is always going to be more important than what anyone else wants, including those who voted for him. You may be too young to have learned that is the hallmark of a man who will Betray You at the drop of a hat.

Lastly, on the theme of his betrayal, he aided and abetted CNN constantly, even though he knew (like the rest of us) that it was CNN's goal to destroy this Presidency, just because seeing his face on TV and getting praise bolstered Sandford's ego.

I don't even live in SC, but I have despised Sandford for years, was disgusted he was ever allowed back in Congress, and I think I am just as happy at watching him being thrown out as I will be when Pelosi herself is finally gone.

I hate that man. Hate him, hate him, hate him. And now I can laugh at him too!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:18 PM (k1TUh)

285 Sorry to hear Neo.
Its a good time to be looking though.
Remember, its all about the networking.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2018 01:18 PM (0tfLf)

286 >>>but the never-ending NeverTrump Twitter Circle Jerk went into conniptions anyway.

Only the media and the Democrats should have the power to decide whom the conservative voters can vote for. If the President even makes an endorsement, that's some sort of outrage, apparently.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (/qEW2)

287 191 I'll pretend to be NeverTrump for the the ten minutes I need to socially tribalising Abigail Shapiro's dynamic psychology.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (51lr/)

By which you mean motorboat her tits, right?

Posted by: McCain's Tumah at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (RD7QR)

288 I've never understood people who respected Goldberg. I always thought he was a shallow, glib twat who only seemed "smart" because he had done exactly two weeks more research than the readers he was hoping to impress.

If I go on to Wikipedia and read up on Structural Linguistics right before I post here, I think I could sound kinda-informed on Structural Linguistics, so long as I could just talk about what I wanted to talk about and thus avoid anyone probing to see exactly what I know and what I don't know.

Also, he has a character defect I cannot forgive: He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (8rNrN)

His latest book is apparently shockingly bad.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (4ErVI)

289 They know nothing about politics. They've never heard of swing elections. What they have in common with the Democrats is that they think they can be dismissive of groups of people and those people have nowhere else to go. (See the Dems treatment of black voters.)

Perhaps they might want to spend a little time looking at actual voting data.

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (JKNZq)

290 There was a good scene in "the sand pebbles" ( the book, not the movie) in which the captain was explaining the new war of propaganda.

He told the crew that you can not bayonet a lie.

One of the sailors pointed out that you can bayonet a liar.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (swEzU)

291 Yeah, it's all class based, not principles based. The "muh principles" set live in the same gaseous bubble, their LW, SJW media cohorts occupy. They exist to espouse philosophical conservative agitprop, never actually having anything conservative at stake. Their Mayor is DeBlasio, their alderman is a Helen Rosenthal their governor is a Cuomo, their Senator is Chuck Schumur and Kirstin Gillibrand. They have nothing at risk.

Posted by: TJ at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (jgeAW)

292 Here's a principle that never, ever, ever, ever, seems to be answered.

I was told, for decades, that it was a high and mighty principle indeed that I *owed* my vote to whoever won the Republican nomination for whatever position and that it was childishness of the greatest type to refuse to vote if I did not support that candidate on his own terms and do you even politics, brah? Oh and if I didn't like the candidates winning the primaries, then go in and take over the local positions and put in the people I wanted. Because that is how that works.

Well.

Challenge accepted.

And now that for the very first time candidates that the ever so intellectual and refined and professional GOP class doesn't like are winning, suddenly REEE REEE REEE REEE REEE HOW DARE YOU SAY I MUST VOTE FOR THAT HORRIBLE BEING REE REE REE REE REE.

It's almost as if, get this, those people were lying jackalopes who really didn't mean a damn word they were bleating.

See also: dick, girl, mine and sucking thereof.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

293 Yeah, Castro was trying to look like the guajira (back country) guerillas of the independence movement against Spain.
Of course most men had beards back then but the country folk had beards that were bushier, not as carefully trimmed as the city boys. It was a distinctive look that Cubans would "get."

Can't tell you what "useful Durak" would be in Spanish because I have no idea what it means in English!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (0jtPF)

==================

Durak = Russian for "Idiot"

Posted by: Jackal at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (kkXcm)

294 Beg pardon if I'm missing the point, but WTF is
wrong with people in SC if they would even consider a guy who went AWOL
as governor to bang a mistress, leaving (in no particular order) his
state, wife and sons, to wonder if he was even alive or dead?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM (rDwsX)

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Stop making sense!

Posted by: David Byrne

The people of Delaware voted for the idiot Biden seven times. Seven *beeping* times.

They see shit like this, they take it as a challenge to their stupidity crown.

Do not taunt their stupidity. I know these people. They will descend to the challenge.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (rDwsX)

Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county, maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (9chmE)

295 282 277 Why does SC have so many shit politicians?

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Here, don'cha hold my beer.
Posted by: Minne-soda

I heard that. And so, it resumes...
Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (rDwsX)

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Pikers.
Posted by: Mississippi

You people are so naive. You have no concept of the scale "shit politician" can be.

Posted by: California at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (c+2jX)

296 He is an unfunny jackoff who is constantly trying to be funny.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (oVJmc)

297 277 Why does SC have so many shit politicians?

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Here, don'cha hold my beer.
Posted by: Minne-soda

I heard that. And so, it resumes...
Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (rDwsX)

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Pikers.
Posted by: Mississippi

what to bet on a land deal?

Posted by: Nevada at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (Bdeb0)

298 The last time we had a Sanford War, I made the case from the SC perspective. (I grew up there).

While many not in the know in the horde assumed that his nomination would lead to a Republican loss, I knew - well, projected - differently.

Sanford was at one time one of the good guys. He was a good governor until his little head took over.

He ran for a seat in the House that he had held before.

He was a good candidate for SC.

Until he went #neverTrump. SC is almost West Virginia-like in its Trumpiness. Sanford runs into the problem that ace points out in this post - once you decide you are in opposition to your team, it isn't really your team anymore.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (Z5y53)

299 My problem with Goldberg isn't the faux expert thing; everyone who blogs has done that before and regularly. Its not his attempts at humor either, I think he's pretty funny.

My problem is that he only preaches to the choir. He's never convinced anyone of anything, he's only said what people he talks to already agree with or will agree with. So his job is basically red meat vending, which I don't have a lot of respect for.

The older I get, the less patience and respect I have for guys like me, who pontificate and speak and write all about stuff but do nothing and accomplish nothing. At no point does that help the world, reach out to anyone, glorify God, or help a single person. All it is, is a sort of masturbation, going over stuff that you think about then telling people who'll clap like seals.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (39g3+)

300 Avi Woolf is that chick who advised Al Gore to wear manly and exciting earthtones in 2000.

I'll never forgive her for showing Gore the path to victory.

Posted by: Furious George at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (9vQJW)

301 And I saw this piece and thought of Jack Straw for some reason:

https://bit.ly/2JOrmrU

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (JKNZq)

302 Let that sink in. The *Principled* Conservatives
(TM) are upset because a governor left his wife and his state to hook up
with a hottie from Argentina! WHITE in office--and married--lost a
primary.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM

While simultaneously telling us that Trump is a bigger dog than Bill Clinton and ZOMG!!!!STORMYDANIELS!!!111!
Lefties, give The Chicken a break, huh?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (p+Wdc)

303 270
Question: if not the Republican party, where are the NeverTrumpers going to go? What are they going to do, set up the New Whig Party?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:16 PM

Nay, ye scurvy scallawag! We'll reclaim the party with our superior intellect and celebrity firepower!

Posted by: Kaptain Kristol and his rag tag NT pirate ship at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (LpV0I)

304
I've never understood people who respected Goldberg. I always thought he was a shallow, glib twat who only seemed "smart" because he had done exactly two weeks more research than the readers he was hoping to impress.

Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (8rNrN)

His latest book is apparently shockingly bad.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (4ErVI)

Imagine how bad it would have been with three weeks of research more than his readers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (BWL+E)

305 266 SC is a machine politics state.

That explains why it is the way it is.

Haley broke the machine and put Scott in as Senator which broke that part of the machine.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (Z5y53)

My favorite Tim Scott thing is back when some dickhole on Twitter (i think it was actually a reporter from AP or some MSM flunkey) called him a "house n****r" for not being a turncoat and voting with the progressive party line like a good little GOPer.

Scott's reply was, "Technically, I'm a Senate N*****r".

I thought that was sheer genius.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (BRvh1)

306 "212 Wasn't the show the Good Wife loosely based in Sanford's ex-wife?
Posted by: wrg500"
_____________________

I thought it was Client No. 9's wife, or maybe that N.J. politician whose wife was (unknowingly, apparently) his beard, and had to stand awkwardly by his side while he announced that "I am a gay American!"

So many humiliated, cheating politicians' wives to choose from . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (fqUgw)

307 290 There was a good scene in "the sand pebbles" ( the book, not the movie) in which the captain was explaining the new war of propaganda.

He told the crew that you can not bayonet a lie.

One of the sailors pointed out that you can bayonet a liar.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM

Good to remember when the burning times come.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (0tfLf)

308 "Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county,"

Take Lower, Slower Delaware, join it with Marylands Eastern Shore.

That would make a damn fine 51st State right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (EyPfd)

309 284 I don't even live in SC, but I have despised Sandford for years, was disgusted he was ever allowed back in Congress, and I think I am just as happy at watching him being thrown out as I will be when Pelosi herself is finally gone.

I hate that man. Hate him, hate him, hate him. And now I can laugh at him too!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:18 PM (k1TUh)

=============

I don't blame you for it.

I get it.

But I always see my relationships with my representatives as purely transactional. As long as they vote in a way that I support, I lend them my support through my vote.

Yes, his extra-curricular activities (both related to his marriage and the media) were unhelpful, but he was still voting the way I liked overall.

I'm not exactly in tears over here that he lost, and, merely to reiterate, I will happily vote for Arrington in the general election, but I felt like he was of some use for the idea of limited government.

Posted by: Mississippi at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (mC1ZI)

310 I admit, I was a G-File fan back in the day. I admired Goldberg's writing ability.

I also had low standards, eg my ex-wife.

Anyway, the shine came off when I saw him on TV for the first time. He does NOT think very quickly on his feet. So yeah, Ace is spot on...he crams on a subject with a limited scope and spews it like a trained puppy. Go outside that scope, and you really see how facile his thinking is.

And I say this as no great intellect either...but I accept my limitations.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (eytER)

311 Still waiting for the AtC pixs.
Posted by: Diogenes

Did you miss the Victory Rack? It was yuuuge & luxurious!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (9uM86)

312
Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county, maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.
Posted by: BurtTC

Pish.

We overthrew the bonds of Godless Pennsylvanian oppression in 1737. Separation Day bitches!!

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (rDwsX)

313 sock off

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (mC1ZI)

314

Who the fark is Abi Woolf?

Posted by: Soothi at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (73yH/)

315 Hey, I got laid off this morning
Posted by: Neo at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM

Take the "off" out of there and it's a good time. Sorry to hear it was an off day.

Posted by: Bobby de Niro at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (2NqXo)

316 Donny two scoops has relegated da Zero's "legacy" to the garbage heap of obscure history at an amazing rate. In 10 years there will be internet quizzes with questions like Who was the first black President? And only like 5% will get the right answer.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (o2MD2)

317 My friendsh, I've still got #muhprinciples.

WHARRGARBL!

Posted by: John McCain at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (J7XgW)

318 >>>You people are so naive. You have no concept of the scale "shit politician" can be.
Posted by: California at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (c+2jX)
_________
You are not American and soon an earthquake will deport you!

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (51lr/)

319 You people are so naive. You have no concept of the scale "shit politician" can be.

Posted by: California at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: Massachusetts at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (p+Wdc)

320 It's almost as if, get this, those people were lying jackalopes who really didn't mean a damn word they were bleating.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (mf5HN)
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The Party of the State only wants you voting for one or the other flavor of the Party of the State.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (vDqXW)

321

Hey, I got laid off this morning

You know the drill: first thing is to go to your friendly local liquor store and stock up on handles of Valu-Rite Brand Vodka.

And the second thing is, um, uh, something. Oh yeah, don't leave the cap off or it'll evaporate in about two hours. And you really need to drink it before the bottle starts to turn all soft and rubbery.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (HaL55)

322 What Sanford was trying to accomplish by going to MSNBC and bashing Trump I cannot understand. Why do that? What was he hoping would happen? Did he figure Trump would see and go "damn he's got a point, I should just resign" or something? What on earth is going through your head when you do that? Is it what he thought his voters would want???

Its like going on Pravda to bash Reagan and thinking your conservative GOP voters are going to appreciate your courage or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (39g3+)

323 Who the fark is Abi Woolf?

Posted by: Soothi at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM
Mr. Normal's cousin on his mother's side.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 13, 2018 01:23 PM (p+Wdc)

324 It's a NeverTrump Suicide Pact

Posted by: Hepcat at June 13, 2018 01:23 PM (5b+Sr)

325 Some people just like to complain. I think it's the national pastime for millennials.

I'm tired of pretending that it's better for our nominee/president to be fake nice than to be effective. Because that's all it is.. fake nice. Even their hero Romney. Those assholes are all in it for the money & power and don't give a shit about me.

Posted by: not the mama at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (t2AQi)

326 The older I get, the less patience and respect I have for guys like me, who pontificate and speak and write all about stuff but do nothing and accomplish nothing. At no point does that help the world, reach out to anyone, glorify God, or help a single person. All it is, is a sort of masturbation, going over stuff that you think about then telling people who'll clap like seals.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (39g3+)

There may or may not be a difference between the intellectual circle-jerk echo chamber where everyone sits around agreeing with each other and never advancing at all, and an ideological rock polisher, revolving the same ideas over and over and over, gradually, slowly refining them over time, knocking off the rough edges, etc. etc.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (BRvh1)

327 The word for today is apparently "cult-ish" where there has been an influx of NON-nevertrump candidates winning primaries yesterday....
To which I say- what is "nevertrump" if not the very definition of a cult?

Stupid assholes!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (jjaLl)

328 324 It's a NeverTrump Suicide Pact
Posted by: Hepcat at June 13, 2018 01:23 PM (5b+Sr)

===========

It'd be nice if they stopped drawing it out.

Just go ahead and die...out of politics forever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (mC1ZI)

329 >>>322 What Sanford was trying to accomplish by going to MSNBC and bashing Trump I cannot understand. Why do that? What was he hoping would happen? Did he figure Trump would see and go "damn he's got a point, I should just resign" or something? What on earth is going through your head when you do that? Is it what he thought his voters would want???

Its like going on Pravda to bash Reagan and thinking your conservative GOP voters are going to appreciate your courage or something.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM (39g3+)
_________
WHAT?!?!

MY CAMPAIGN STRATEGY IS RUINED!!!

Posted by: Jeff Flake - 2020 at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (51lr/)

330 191 I'll pretend to be NeverTrump for the the ten minutes I need to socially tribalising Abigail Shapiro's dynamic psychology.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 13, 2018 01:06 PM

No need. She probably just pretends to be NeverTrump so Ben shuts up. I bet a full-throated Trump bad-boy is right up her alley.

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (LpV0I)

331 Who was the first black President?

ohh, ask me, ask me!

Posted by: Warren Harding at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (tu5OU)

332 56
"and that was part (but only part) of the reason I rejected all that"

It's frightening how close this site may have come to utter
destruction. I'm not sure why your natural instincts are so anti-Trump,
Ace, but unlike those afflicted with TDS, I appreciate how you can at
least objectively realize Trump is accomplishing more than any of the
GOPe shills (or conservative pretenders) ever has.

Nothing wrong with being skeptical, but so far, Trump has been much
more reasonable than I ever expected, and all I wanted was to keep
Hillary out and punch back at the left for once!

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (LpV0I)

The Trump Train continues to add more cars for people just like you. Glad to see you came around, and the drink service starts in about 15 minutes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (UsCnO)

333 312
Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county, maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.
Posted by: BurtTC

In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.

Posted by: California at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (c+2jX)

334 I really think the defining feature of NeverTrump is really support for Mass Immigration. If you look at who the NeverTrumpers are (CoC Cucks) and how they attack him ("He's a racist. He divides people.") It kind of obvious what really bothers them.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (O7MnT)

335 Scott's reply was, "Technically, I'm a Senate N*****r".

I thought that was sheer genius.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (BRvh1)

He has more class than that - closer to actual quote he answered "I am in the Senate."

But, anyway, Scott was appointed to the Senate by Haley. He had been a Rep. The vacancy left by that is what led Sanford to run for that seat.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (Z5y53)

336 Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county

There are about five of the original 13 colonies that should never have been states and should have been absorbed long ago. Really Rhode Island? Seriously Connecticut? Is there really a need for both Vermont AND New Hampshire? What is the point of these mini states, particularly as they seem to hold bizarrely great political power despite having a smaller population and GDP than Scio, Oregon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (39g3+)

337 "Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county,"

Take Lower, Slower Delaware, join it with Marylands Eastern Shore.

That would make a damn fine 51st State right there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Take all those tiny NE states, you know, the ones that are so tiny that they have to put the names out in the water on a map and draw lines to them and make them one small state.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (9uM86)

338 It's almost as if, get this, those people were lying jackalopes who really didn't mean a damn word they were bleating.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

I think they meant it. They just also meant (but never told any of us) that they intended to rig the game so that their guy would always be the one left standing after the primaries.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (mk7Bj)

339
"Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county,"

Take Lower, Slower Delaware, join it with Marylands Eastern Shore.

That would make a damn fine 51st State right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (EyPfd)

Ok then, the science is settled. Carve out that one bulb of land there, call it Marydell, give the upper portion to New Joisy, so we're still at 50.

Hey, if they can realign MLB so Houston is in the AL and Milwaukee is in the NL, we can re-slice the states.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (9chmE)

340 178 So - along these lines - someone called in to the Weekly Standard to
complain about the #NeverTrump cucksters and left this message on their
machine.

Pure. Gold.

https://tinyurl.com/yaxwabqq

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Fb9aZ)

Wow. He poured gasoline on the WS offices and threw a match on it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 13, 2018 01:04 PM (ptqGC)

Great line
I can promise you, you people are as far from conservative as Husein is from being Hawaiian.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (JFO2v)

341

Didja ever wake up in the mornin'
With a Avi Woolf behind your eyes

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (IqV8l)

342 I bet a full-throated Trump bad-boy is right up her alley.

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (LpV0I)

I think those words may not be in the right order.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (Z5y53)

343 335 Scott's reply was, "Technically, I'm a Senate N*****r".

I thought that was sheer genius.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:21 PM (BRvh1)

He has more class than that - closer to actual quote he answered "I am in the Senate."

But, anyway, Scott was appointed to the Senate by Haley. He had been a Rep. The vacancy left by that is what led Sanford to run for that seat.
Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (Z5y53)

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And then, because of the required special election, both Scott and Graham were on the same ballot.

Scott won his seat by about 100,000 votes more than Graham did.

Because we racist scum down in the lowcountry.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (mC1ZI)

344 We're excited to announce our new cruise destination is Argentina, with one especially awesome new headline we know you'll love.

Posted by: Cap'n Kristol/I] at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (JOoaf)

345 In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.

The only thing worse than 1 California is 3 Californias.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (O7MnT)

346 "Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county, maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.
Posted by: BurtTC"

On the plus side, Delaware has nice beaches and sports gambling. But they sure churn out crap politicians.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (OD2ni)

347 345 In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.

The only thing worse than 1 California is 3 Californias.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (O7MnT)

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Depends on how you split it.

If LA and San Francisco are in the same state, and you make two out of the red parts of it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (mC1ZI)

348 He has more class than that - closer to actual quote he answered "I am in the Senate."

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:25 PM (Z5y53)
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His verbatim reply was "Senate!"

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (vDqXW)

349
The Party of the State only wants you voting for one or the other flavor of the Party of the State.

Posted by: Axeman

"Sergo Ordzhonikidze State Sausage Factory No. 1 produces putrid sausages full of grit and rubber as fillers. Comes in blue wrapper or red wrapper. You have choice!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (BWL+E)

350 an ideological rock polisher, revolving the same ideas over and over and over, gradually, slowly refining them over time, knocking off the rough edges, etc.

I think that's what we do here. We don't really agree on everything, just the basics and like Proverbs says about iron sharpening iron, the conflict and discussion helps polish and sharpen our understanding of issues and topics.

I've learned a lot here, usually by being dogmatically wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)

351 In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.
Posted by: California

True. All three new states revert to territory status as you apply for statehood.

Statehood isn't automatic. Ask Alaska & Hawaii.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (9uM86)

352 Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county

There are about five of the original 13 colonies that should never have been states and should have been absorbed long ago. Really Rhode Island? Seriously Connecticut? Is there really a need for both Vermont AND New Hampshire? What is the point of these mini states, particularly as they seem to hold bizarrely great political power despite having a smaller population and GDP than Scio, Oregon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Strangely, Delaware is no longer dead last in population. There were four states with smaller numbers, none of which were the original 13.

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (rDwsX)

353 t's almost as if, get this, those people were lying jackalopes who really didn't mean a damn word they were bleating.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

Narrator: they never meant a damn word they word bleating.

Every time one of the establish types got beaten, they campaigned against the one that beat them. Party Unity Their Asses. Which is, umm, puta.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (Z5y53)

354 274---It helps to create loyal voters when you call your senator, complain about Medicare not being right for your mother, and the senator fixes it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM (EvBgT)
-----------------------------------
Yes.
I have a good friend who used to work for the VA Med system.
He has often argued that many Congresscritters do not want "too much" reform of the system because it would cut down on the brownie points they win for constituent services.
Heh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (0jtPF)

355 I think that's what we do here. We don't really agree on everything, just the basics and like Proverbs says about iron sharpening iron, the conflict and discussion helps polish and sharpen our understanding of issues and topics.

I've learned a lot here, usually by being dogmatically wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

*fistbump!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (9uM86)

356 319 You people are so naive. You have no concept of the scale "shit politician" can be.

Posted by: California at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Posted by: Massachusetts at June 13, 2018 01:22 PM

Minimum bet at our table is a nickel in State pen.

Posted by: Convicted Illinois Governors at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (LpV0I)

357 351 In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.
Posted by: California

True. All three new states revert to territory status as you apply for statehood.

Statehood isn't automatic. Ask Alaska & Hawaii.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (9uM86)

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Interesting welfare system you have there...letting in people who aren't citizens...

That's gonna have to go, along with a few other things, if you want those electoral votes back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (mC1ZI)

358 262 Posted by: Francois de Salignac de La Mothe Fenelon at June 13, 2018 01:13 PM (bInUb)

Didn't read that in your collected works.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 13, 2018 01:15 PM (0/+vJ)

Yeah, I don't think there's a time machine here so much as BSG being autistically persistent.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (RD7QR)

359 Many in the Twittersphere claim to be experts.

I am the real deal, the only expert you should be listening to.

Posted by: Tom Nichols at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (WXSv6)

360 Hey, if they can realign MLB so Houston is in the AL and Milwaukee is in the NL, we can re-slice the states.

According to the geniuses in NYC, Houston is in the west :/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

361 239 Hey, I got laid off this morning

Posted by: Neo at June 13, 2018 01:11 PM (jCwj+)

Sorry to hear that Neo.

But, if you don't mind me asking, what kinda company is laying people off in this economy....besides Tesla?

And maybe post what you do and in what area you live . Might be some helpful morons around.

Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (Enq6K)

362 That reminds me of Ace's favorite expert, Nichols, saying Democrats have to win because he fears Trump will send the Democrats to the extreme left. *expert* Wut?

Posted by: Abby Normal at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (h5Lyp)

363 I just figured Sanford got elected because the alternative was so bad.

Wasn't the alternative Colbert's sister? So yep, probably have to go with the trail hiker.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (4ErVI)

364 Question: if not the Republican party, where are the NeverTrumpers going to go? Ideological enforcement within the Democrats is so Stalinist that any deviation will be brutally punished. What are they going to do, set up the New Whig Party?"

THIS is why the NeverTrumpers are so upset, because after yesterday they are suddenly having to face up to how false all of their assumptions have been so far. (Erick Erickson has a piece up lamenting this as well) They are OUT of the Republican Party, BUT they can never be part of the Dem Party either, even if they wanted to - the Dem's won't have them, either. And they have NO body of voters who they can influence, that's what they are figuring out.

What this means is that Politics is no longer the place for them. They need to fold up their blogs, quit writing, close their offices, fire their interns, and go run a nice pancake house somewhere. And Shut Up for the Rest of their Lives, while other people take over the responsibility for determining this countries direction.

They are Out of the Game, whether they want to be or not.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (k1TUh)

365 The SCOUS ruled yesterday that WI can purge voter rolls of dead 'folks' and non residents..of course more states will follow...Soo I expect MORE WINNING!!! YAY!!!

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (ICWiF)

366 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

It could work...nothing else has.

Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (Y274z)

367 331 Who was the first black President?

ohh, ask me, ask me!
Posted by: Warren Harding at June 13, 2018 01:24 PM (tu5OU)

Man, if Rutherford B. Hayes wasn't a Brother, I don't even know what's up.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (BRvh1)

368 Reap the whirlwind Mfuchers

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (M+Lyo)

369 Hey, Avi, it's Wolf not Woolf, you dumb shit. Can't even spell your name correctly.

Posted by: Hepcat at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (5b+Sr)

370 We don't really agree on everything, just the basics and like Proverbs says about iron sharpening iron, the conflict and discussion helps polish and sharpen our understanding of issues and topics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)
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Astute observation.

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (vDqXW)

371
Read an article yesterday that part of the reason obama's prez library will have no, you know, library is that they systematically destroyed records.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (r+sAi)

372 @345

Just what we need, California cubed with 6 voting Senators.

No thanks.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (UfMVm)

373 According to the geniuses in NYC, Houston is in the west :/
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

Back in the day, so were the Twins and White Sox. I welcome MLB contraction at any time.

Posted by: Minne-soda at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (suO/a)

374 Hey, if they can realign MLB so Houston is in the AL and Milwaukee is in the NL, we can re-slice the states.

----------------------------------------
According to the geniuses in NYC, Houston is in the west :/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

They heard everyone in Texas wears cowboy hats. So naturally.....

Posted by: BurtTC at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (9chmE)

375 re: the Victory Rack

Never have I had more respect for the other 'ettes.

Posted by: creeper at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (Kq2SQ)

376 363 I just figured Sanford got elected because the alternative was so bad.

Wasn't the alternative Colbert's sister? So yep, probably have to go with the trail hiker.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (4ErVI)

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Yeah, I still see her bumper stickers around.

They make me smile.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (mC1ZI)

377 351 In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.
Posted by: California

True. All three new states revert to territory status as you apply for statehood.

Statehood isn't automatic. Ask Alaska & Hawaii.
Posted by: rickb223

Absolutely the best case if CA breaks into 3 state, 2 will be blue 1 purple. Dems end up with at least 4 Senators.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (Bdeb0)

378
They need to fold up their blogs, quit writing, close their offices, fire their interns, and go run a nice pancake house somewhere right into the ground.

Fixed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (BWL+E)

379 334 I really think the defining feature of NeverTrump is really support for Mass Immigration.

How is support of Mass Immigration much different than the semi-slave indentured servant of the 1700s? Little chance to become a full member of society. Regulations used against to keep your rights and wages suppressed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (JFO2v)

380 The Supreme Court disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of dead Democrats.Trump = Hitler!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (o2MD2)

381 I though "the good wife" was another Hillary wish fulfillment fantasy, where she dumped Bill, and he pined for her while she did her super lawyer thing.

Posted by: Porter at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (VWE5i)

382 374 Hey, if they can realign MLB so Houston is in the AL and Milwaukee is in the NL, we can re-slice the states.

----------------------------------------
According to the geniuses in NYC, Houston is in the west :/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

They heard everyone in Texas wears cowboy hats. So naturally.....
Posted by: BurtTC at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (9chmE)

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The man who made the decision was 130 years old and hadn't looked at a map of the US since the 1860s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:32 PM (mC1ZI)

383 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

It could work...nothing else has.
Posted by: torabora

Watch the horde line up for them.

And then lie in the voting booth.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:32 PM (9uM86)

384 There were four states with smaller numbers, none of which were the original 13.

All of which are probably better places to live, politically speaking. Like Wyoming

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:32 PM (39g3+)

385 I really think the defining feature of NeverTrump is really support for Mass Immigration.

I think that gives them too much credit for having principles.

They don't.

They just hate Trump. That is all.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (Z5y53)

386 345 In that vein: the Proposition to divide me (California) into three separate states just qualified for the 2018 ballot! Seriously. If it passes, great hilarity shall ensue.

The only thing worse than 1 California is 3 Californias.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

No, actually -- the whole purpose of the measure is to unleash the power of the state's disenfranchised conservatives.

As things now stand, California one vast voting bloc -- a voting bloc on which the Left has an unbreakable headlock. ~55% of the state is liberal, so the 45% non-liberals get completely silenced in statewide and national elections. ALL our electors always go to the Dems. ALL leftist proposal in the state ALWAYS pass.

But once California is divided up, there will be three states: Uber-liberal coastal Northern California, uber-conservative inland California, and toss-up Southern California. So now a bunch of our electors in presidential elections will go to the conservative candidate, instead of them ALL going to the Dem. The proposal is basically an anti-gerrymandering proposal. I'm definitely voting for it.

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (c+2jX)

387 367 331 Who was the first black President?

ohh, ask me, ask me!
Posted by: Warren Harding

Why we Hemming about this?

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (Bdeb0)

388 According to the geniuses in NYC, Houston is in the west :/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

The West starts at the Tarrant County line.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (JFO2v)

389 @371

Well, they deep sixed all of his school records, his literary writeups, his speeches before Muslim audiences, , Reverend Wright, he did vast amounts of corrupt and unconsitutional things while in office.

His daily briefings if reviewed would be problematic.

Basically the only thing that will be in his "library" will be his lunch order and golf itinerary.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (UfMVm)

390 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

It could work...nothing else has.
Posted by: torabora

I'm on two different career paths? Daddy will be so proud!

Posted by: Ali Watkins at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (rDwsX)

391 346 "Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county, maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.
Posted by: BurtTC"

On the plus side, Delaware has nice beaches and sports gambling. But they sure churn out crap politicians.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (OD2ni)

Delaware and DC belong to Maryland.

Rhode Island belongs to Massachusetts; Connecticut and Vermont belong to NY.

There. Eight blue Senate seats eliminated. Now we can let the Californians split apart.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (RD7QR)

392 California can become three states if Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Georgia and South Carolina all get an extra senator.

Oh and Wyoming and the Dakota's.

And Utah. And Idaho.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (JOoaf)

393 "Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county, maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.
Posted by: BurtTC"

One other thing about Delaware I respect is that they avoid sales tax for their residents by financially raping the Yankees driving to Florida on that 12 miles stretch of I-95 through Delaware.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (OD2ni)

394 Dumbasses one and all.

Posted by: ALH at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (uLuPn)

395 386 But once California is divided up, there will be three states: Uber-liberal coastal Northern California, uber-conservative inland California, and toss-up Southern California. So now a bunch of our electors in presidential elections will go to the conservative candidate, instead of them ALL going to the Dem. The proposal is basically an anti-gerrymandering proposal. I'm definitely voting for it.
Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (c+2jX)

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Besides, we've have 50 stars on the flag too long.

Next, we split up Maryland. Seriously...that tiny connector is unnatural.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (mC1ZI)

396 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

It could work...nothing else has.
Posted by: torabora
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I'm in.

Posted by: Trigglypuff at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (vDqXW)

397 Yeah, I still see her bumper stickers around.

They make me smile.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:31 PM (mC1ZI)

Something similar actually happened here. We had a GOPe rep who really was an asshat. He got in back in the 1990s on a I won't serve more than two terms and of course he was still in there. So, so hard to vote for him every two years. I prayed someone would primary him, but it never happened.

Then people finally got sick of his shit and voted in a Dem. Then two years later the Dem gets tossed for another Republican.

It sucks that such a roundabout way is necessary to get rid of deadwood, but unless they can get blown out in a primary, that's what has to happen.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (4ErVI)

398 I forgot and am too lazy to google, but isn't Mark Sanford that POS that was gov and disappeared for a few days to bang his mistress "hiking the appalacia trail?"

I mean, if you're a nevertrumper is that the star you really want to hitch your wagon to?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (+087i)

399 Ted Cruz is the model, if anyone should have animus with Trump, it's him. Yet, he worked hard to try and end Ocare, he was stridently supportive of the embassy move in Israel.
You can be conservative like Stanford, but can avoid all the nick picky criticism of Trump and courtship of the empty headed (but morally pure!, ha) role model nevertrumpers.
All these people like Flake, who exist in a giant twitter cocoon who think they are a viable option to Trump, what are they smoking?

Posted by: standfast24 at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (4OBCQ)

400 The Atlanta Braves were in the NL West for 25 years.

Downside: Jet Lag.

Upside: Lifelong Dodger hatred.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (Boy/L)

401 Referring to my comment at 365. Correction the State is Ohio not Wisconsin.. https://tinyurl.com/ybcp7rt4

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:34 PM (ICWiF)

402 366 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

It could work...nothing else has.
Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (Y274z)

Madonna promised this. And member when some journOLIST offered to blow Bill whenever he needed it.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (JFO2v)

403 #Derp
#WinByLosing
#Losers

Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (SzZnW)

404 386 But once California is divided up, there will be three states:
Uber-liberal coastal Northern California, uber-conservative inland
California, and toss-up Southern California. So now a bunch of our
electors in presidential elections will go to the conservative
candidate, instead of them ALL going to the Dem. The proposal is
basically an anti-gerrymandering proposal. I'm definitely voting for it.

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (c+2jX)

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yup. me too

Posted by: IC at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (a0IVu)

405 There were four states with smaller numbers, none of which were the original 13.

All of which are probably better places to live, politically speaking. Like Wyoming
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Yup. Also, Alaska, Montana, one of the Dakotas, and Vermont.

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (rDwsX)

406 Basically the only thing that will be in his "library" will be his lunch order and golf itinerary.
Posted by: Kreplach

And his iPod speeches.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (9uM86)

407 The West starts at the Tarrant County line.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (JFO2v)
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The west starts as La Gwadia.

Posted by: New Yawkah at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (vDqXW)

408 Hey, I got laid off this morning

Hope you can find better work soon Neo, prayers are with you, and all of our support.

They heard everyone in Texas wears cowboy hats. So naturally.....

They're talking about adding 2 new teams, which would bring each league to 16 teams. So do they split into 4 or back to 2? My money is on 4, because that adds yet another round into the playoffs so they can end up with games into early November.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (39g3+)

409 6 Posted by: nip at June 13, 2018 12:41 PM (ECLaL)

Don't CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA>>>
//Marky Mark Sanford

Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (SzZnW)

410 365 The SCOUS ruled yesterday that WI can purge voter rolls of dead 'folks' and non residents..of course more states will follow...Soo I expect MORE WINNING!!! YAY!!!
Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (ICWiF)

It is Ohio and it take six years.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (JFO2v)

411 Rhode Island belongs to Massachusetts; Connecticut and Vermont belong to NY.

If you put it to a vote I have no doubt the moonbats here would choose to join Canada. Seriously, that is how wacked up Vermont is.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (kUmUV)

412 And his iPod speeches.[/i[

He gave those to the Queen.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (Boy/L)

413
Well, they deep sixed all of his school records, his literary writeups, his speeches before Muslim audiences, , Reverend Wright, he did vast amounts of corrupt and unconsitutional things while in office.

All the score cards from his golf outings, too. Anyone from our watchdog press ever learn about how his game was?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (BWL+E)

414 Watch the horde line up for them.

And then lie in the voting booth.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:32 PM (9uM86)

#OperationFellateAndSwitch

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (BRvh1)

415

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (Boy/L)

416
Can sanford run as a spoiler?

Posted by: Soothi at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (73yH/)

417 Nevertrump: "I don't want to back Trump because he is crass and has bad moral character, is a serial adulterer and liar"

Also nevertrump: "Mark Sanford"

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (+087i)

418 292 Here's a principle that never, ever, ever, ever, seems to be answered.

I was told, for decades, that it was a high and mighty principle indeed that I *owed* my vote to whoever won the Republican nomination for whatever position and that it was childishness of the greatest type to refuse to vote if I did not support that candidate on his own terms and do you even politics, brah? Oh and if I didn't like the candidates winning the primaries, then go in and take over the local positions and put in the people I wanted. Because that is how that works.

Well.

Challenge accepted.

And now that for the very first time candidates that the ever so intellectual and refined and professional GOP class doesn't like are winning, suddenly REEE REEE REEE REEE REEE HOW DARE YOU SAY I MUST VOTE FOR THAT HORRIBLE BEING REE REE REE REE REE.

It's almost as if, get this, those people were lying jackalopes who really didn't mean a damn word they were bleating.

See also: dick, girl, mine and sucking thereof.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 13, 2018 01:19 PM (mf5HN)

They've been pulling their "Take my ball and go home" shit for a while though. First time it became really apparent for me was the Dede Scozzflava or whatever her name was in New York. The GOP there decided she was the candidate and it pissed off the conservatives of the district and they went with a different candidate running under a third party. And so the bitch dropped out, and then endorsed the Democrat.

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (lKs2v)

419 Absolutely the best case if CA breaks into 3 state, 2 will be blue 1 purple. Dems end up with at least 4 Senators.
Posted by: wrg500

Nope -- there will be one guaranteed Dem state, one guaranteed GOP state, and one toss-up state.

The proposal will "pack" libs into one of the three new mini-states, actually diluting their power.

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (c+2jX)

420 417 Nevertrump: "I don't want to back Trump because he is crass and has bad moral character, is a serial adulterer and liar"

Also nevertrump: "Mark Sanford"
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (+087i)

=============

Makes perfect sense.

Stupid.

Jeez.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (mC1ZI)

421 Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (oVJmc)

422 410 Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (JFO2v)

at least my great great grandfather will stop voting for democrats down in Ironton...
he fought in the ACW and Injun' Wars....

Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (SzZnW)

423 Basically the only thing that will be in his "library" will be his lunch order and golf itinerary.

and his multiple-choice executive decision making sheets.

Posted by: McCool at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (WXSv6)

424 @386

I simply do not believe that the two other entities would elect GOP Senators.

Each state would still have large cities that would be dominated by Democrats and thus elect democrats.

And even if these entities were governed conservatively and elected representation and Senators, it would eventually be over run by locusts fleeing the liberal California.

California is fucked, let it stay fucked as one state, not metastisize into a three headed monster.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (UfMVm)

425 212
Wasn't the show the Good Wife loosely based in Sanford's ex-wife?

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:08 PM (Bdeb0)

Nope, Elliot Spitzer's and to a lesser extent, John Edwards.

Show launched in Sept of 2009, meaning that it had been in production since the first quarter of 2009, well before Sanford went hiking on the AT.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly known as MrCaniac at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (fdTrp)

426 Delaware and DC belong to Maryland.

Rhode Island belongs to Massachusetts; Connecticut and Vermont belong to NY.

There. Eight blue Senate seats eliminated. Now we can let the Californians split apart.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to

Are you guys 2nd Lts? I'm told that they were the most dangerous with a map.

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (rDwsX)

427

Basically the only thing that will be in his "library" will be his lunch order and golf itinerary.

There should be a few more items: a dead fly, a dead rat, a broken umbrella, his girl's bicycle helmet, a skeet rifle, and a door that looks like a window.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (HaL55)

428 And his iPod speeches.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM (9uM86)

iPod full of speeches.

And no charger. Or headphones.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (BRvh1)

429 Catholic theologians were supposed to be such sophisticated ethicists, yet this particular group sounds as braindead and sloganeering as any Democrat stooge. They omit addressing the moral and practical problems with their position.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (/qEW2)

430 383 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

It could work...nothing else has.
Posted by: torabora

It worked in Italy not too long ago...
https://tinyurl.com/y85uubp6

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (LpV0I)

431
All the score cards from his golf outings, too. Anyone from our watchdog press ever learn about how his game was?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

His game? graft

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (Bdeb0)

432 "421 Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles"

Worse than Doonesbury?

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (OD2ni)

433

Apartment 3-G

Posted by: Soothi at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (73yH/)

434 427

Basically the only thing that will be in his "library" will be his lunch order and golf itinerary.

There should be a few more items: a dead fly, a dead rat, a broken umbrella, his girl's bicycle helmet, a skeet rifle, and a door that looks like a window.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (HaL55)

============

And, oddly enough, a handwritten first draft of Dreams of My Father in someone else's handwriting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (mC1ZI)

435 Basically the only thing that will be in his "library" will be his lunch order and golf itinerary.

Posted by: Kreplach

And his iPod speeches.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:35 PM

& his basketball brackets

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (ZQfW9)

436 The Far Side was the best comic strip ever.

Posted by: ALH at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (uLuPn)

437 420 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (mC1ZI)

Moral paragons running interference for Pedobears and Bearettes are demanding I begrudge Orange Toupee Weasel his paid for concensual fun...
t'ain't happening.
Bobby "Punchy" DeNiro was debauching 14 year olds in Fwance unless I am mistaken....
#NotMeEither

Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (SzZnW)

438 If Cali really wanted to split equitably it would have to be in two; a liberal coast and conservative inland.

I have family stranded in Fresno. I get it.

But unless they want to hand us a sure net gain of Senate seats it's a no go.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (JOoaf)

439 354 274---It helps to create loyal voters when you call your senator, complain about Medicare not being right for your mother, and the senator fixes it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:17 PM

In Arizona, this explains why McCain always stayed at least nominally popular, while Flake has descended into 18% approval or whatever. It wasn't about ideology, or even Trump so much - the McCain organization at least believed in helping out constituents, working the system for them when they needed a favor. Flake, being such a good Libertarian, decided Government shouldn't be doing those kinds of things or playing favorites, so when constituents would call him for help, his staffers routinely told them go Fuck Off.

And THAT is how you get an 18% approval rating. Brilliant man, that Jeff Flake is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (k1TUh)

440 Just what we need, California cubed with 6 voting Senators.

No thanks.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:30 PM (UfMVm)
----------

I live in one of the sections and it would be staunchly red.

You have no idea how badly the Central Valley has been frozen out of representation in Sacramento.

The coastal freaks think food and fuel are the product of unicorns and fairies and think good paying jobs for dirt people shouldn't exist, because, ewwww!

Anyway, I'm retiring in a couple of years. My wife and I will probably move out of state the day after I retire. We're done.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (qC1Sy)

441 I wanna see how many Morons line up for the typical Democrat skag lesbian blowjob. Hillary might volunteer. Count my hairy ass out.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (o2MD2)

442 426 Delaware and DC belong to Maryland.

Rhode Island belongs to Massachusetts; Connecticut and Vermont belong to NY.

There. Eight blue Senate seats eliminated. Now we can let the Californians split apart.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to

Are you guys 2nd Lts? I'm told that they were the most dangerous with a map.
Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (rDwsX)

Look, just sit down for a couple hours and I'll have us out of the swamp, okay?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 13, 2018 01:39 PM (RD7QR)

443 410 365 The SCOUS ruled yesterday that WI can purge voter rolls of dead 'folks' and non residents..of course more states will follow...Soo I expect MORE WINNING!!! YAY!!!
Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:29 PM (ICWiF)

It is Ohio and it take six years.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 13, 2018 01:36 PM (JFO2v)

Yep I made the correction at 401 tks. Ohio already has a few thousand booted off the rolls that is what the court case was about.. YAY!!

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (ICWiF)

444 CA coastal elites will never move inland. Just the mention of Bakersfield and they break out in hives.

Posted by: IC at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (a0IVu)

445 Are you guys 2nd Lts? I'm told that they were the most dangerous with a map.
Posted by: Delaware

*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (9uM86)

446 Democrats might try BJ's for votes as a campaign strategy...park a van a block from the polls. Make house calls...

Yeah but would it be from terrifying old fake Brit accent Madonna or insane but still kinda hot Ashley Judd?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (39g3+)

447 421 Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (oVJmc)

Do you even Dondi, bro?

Posted by: eleven at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (+lOpA)

448 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/355602.php
"I'm not coming back. I'm done. For the past ten years of my life, I've made arguments, some of which I knew to be false, to defend and apologize for the GOP; I see now that I was a fool to do so.

I actually do not care very much if Hillary Clinton is president. What would really be different?"

Posted by: Original Roy at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (9Tlm9)

449 Regardless of how you feel about Sandford's moral character, you really gotta question his judgment and intelligence.

So, you're governor of a f'ng state and you think you can just disappear for 6 days and no one will wonder where you went?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (+087i)

450 417 Nevertrump: "I don't want to back Trump because he is crass and has bad moral character, is a serial adulterer and liar"

Also nevertrump: "Mark Sanford"

****************************

Several democrats, DEMOCRATS!!!, voted more often for Trump's agenda than Sanford did.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (+dsLj)

451
If LA and San Francisco are in the same state, and you make two out of the red parts of it...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:27 PM (mC1ZI)

The animosity between LA and SF is fueling the drive to break up the state.

Posted by: Flawlesss Male Logic at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (10vO4)

452 If you put it to a vote I have no doubt the moonbats here would choose to join Canada. Seriously, that is how wacked up Vermont is.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont

After WWII, Newfoundland was still an English possession, not part of Canada. They held a referendum, and the initial results were for applying for statehood or staying with Britain. They were forced to join the Canadian federation.

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:41 PM (rDwsX)

453
Do you even Dondi, bro?

Posted by: eleven

Strip folded after he got elected to the Senate from Florida.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 13, 2018 01:41 PM (BWL+E)

454
And, oddly enough, a handwritten first draft of Dreams of My Father in someone else's handwriting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:38 PM (mC1ZI)

A classic indeed!1 the book and your comment both ha ha ha

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:41 PM (ICWiF)

455 443 Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (ICWiF)

Remember what all of this is REALLY about is globalists socialists demanding that we debauch the electoral process so they get 5-15% "Free Votes" because "arc of history."

Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:41 PM (SzZnW)

456 It's Raining Chicks!

https://bit.ly/2JEu0gu

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2018 01:42 PM (+y/Ru)

457 Speaking of ODummy skeet-shooting..... I recall a picture of him doing that... with one foot raised? It was hilarious, but was that real, or a photoshop?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 13, 2018 01:42 PM (jjaLl)

458 @440

I hear you and feel for your plight but the California locusts that have invaded Washington, Colorado, Oregan and are now making inroads into Arizona will simply invade your new Red State.

Sorry, California is fucked, let it stay fucked as one state with two fucktard Senators instead of metastisizing into 6 Senator nightmare.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 13, 2018 01:42 PM (UfMVm)

459 448 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/355602.php
"I'm not coming back. I'm done. For the past ten years of my life, I've made arguments, some of which I knew to be false, to defend and apologize for the GOP; I see now that I was a fool to do so.

I actually do not care very much if Hillary Clinton is president. What would really be different?"
Posted by: Original Roy at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (9Tlm9)

============

Well, I'm sure that Gorsuch was on her shortlist for SCOTUS.

She would have definitely signed a tax cut.

She would not have pushed for any sort of amnesty or anything.

Yup, exactly the same.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 13, 2018 01:42 PM (mC1ZI)

460 "I'm not coming back. I'm done. For the past ten years of my life, I've made arguments, some of which I knew to be false, to defend and apologize for the GOP; I see now that I was a fool to do so.

I actually do not care very much if Hillary Clinton is president. What would really be different?"

Posted by: Original Roy at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (9Tlm9)

He got better.

Posted by: blaster at June 13, 2018 01:42 PM (Z5y53)

461 Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:37 PM (c+2jX)

Out of curiosity, how is this California split up proposal dealing with water rights? From what I remember in my course work (back when dinosaurs walked the earth) that is likely to be more of an issue with the locals than the color of the senate seats.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (kUmUV)

462 Just the mention of Bakersfield and they break out in hives.

Makes me break out in smiles and turn up the radio.

Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever.

Had some beautiful artwork. No, the worst comic strip ever was one that showed up about the time I stopped reading comics in the paper, called Sylvia I think it was. Horrifically bad art, never funny, obnoxiously feminist. It was like someone combined everything bad they could think of for a comic strip and newspapers bought it.

Last time I saw a newspaper with comics in it, they were so small I needed a magnifying glass.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (39g3+)

463 456 It's Raining Chicks!

https://bit.ly/2JEu0gu
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2018 01:42 PM (+y/Ru)

Oh, and raccoons are climbing buildings.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (RD7QR)

464 I hate raccoons. But this is one even I can admire. She climbed 22 or so stories of the UBS Tower in Minneapolis, before being trapped on the roof and "released into the wild".

Yeah, the "wild". Otherwise known as a "pond" I hope. Anyway, great climb rodent!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yafm29k5

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (LISuA)

465 Come on down to Madonna's Motor-Blower registration tent!

One glans, one vote!

And the tonsil-herpes are always free of charge!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (BRvh1)

466

Noop

Posted by: Soothi at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (73yH/)

467 Back when some of us on line discussed forming an actual Tea Party (before the Santelli speech, btw), the establishment GOP was all "You can't SPLIT the party--the Dems are going to win and it will be NOTHING but socialism" (which they were always closer to, anyway). The decision was to form a party within the Republican ranks that would vote for mainly Republicans that had "Tea Party" values. Because we didn't want to split the vote.

These days, the same people who said that they always lose because even when they try to hide staunch conservatives in the closet they never fully shut up--or cease to exist, then say they're hoping the Dems win, rather than vote for *GOP* candidates that are not PoS (Party of State).

Posted by: Axeman at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (vDqXW)

468 456 It's Raining Chicks!

https://bit.ly/2JEu0gu
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

As god as my witness I though they could fly

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (Bdeb0)

469 But once California is divided up, there will be three states: Uber-liberal coastal Northern California, uber-conservative inland California, and toss-up Southern California.

That's not the proposed split.

California will be electorally dominated by LA (the county that provided Hillary's entire popular vote margin.) So, 2 Democrat Senators.

Northern California will be dominated by San Francisco, Oakland, Silicon Valley, and Sacramento. So, 2 Democrat Senators.

Southern California is maybe... MAYBE... purple at best. But more likely, blue San Diego and Riverside will outvote the sparsely populated interior.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 01:43 PM (O7MnT)

470 The older I get, the less patience and respect I have for guys like me, who pontificate and speak and write all about stuff but do nothing and accomplish nothing. At no point does that help the world, reach out to anyone, glorify God, or help a single person. All it is, is a sort of masturbation, going over stuff that you think about then telling people who'll clap like seals.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:20 PM (39g3+)

Well, there is an alternative. Because of the vicious attack we're facing in IL on the 2nd as well as a new "progressive" flavor to the democratic left in the state outside of Chicago I've been compelled to actually start becoming involved.

The Moms against... ditzes are not that fearsome, really, but a little bit of organization can go along way. Not having our own Bloomberg (or a generally competent pro 2nd organization in the state that is not mainly interested in hosting down state shooting matches), sometimes it just becomes apparent that if you want to get something done you simply have to get off your ass and do it yourself. Of course, getting off your ass is the very hard part as I am discovering (but actually doing).

Posted by: Keith at June 13, 2018 01:44 PM (USf3s)

471 I think I was most disappointed by Goldberg....not that I really gave-a-sh!t about any of them. His NT'ism just seemed odd to me.
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2018 12:49 PM (Enq6K)
-----
Not really, at least to me. Like Kristol and Podhoretz, Goldberg is another TruCon nepot princeling, raised at the trough of of the Conservative Media Ecosystem, peddling books and empty promises on the strength of his mothers name.

Trump upset his gravy boat, and it makes perfect sense to me that he'd jump in with #NT. These guys never meant it. They're no different than the preacher in the Gilded Six-Bits.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 13, 2018 01:44 PM (UiRxW)

472 Oh, and raccoons are climbing buildings.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody

Much like AtC it couldn't reach the elevator button.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 13, 2018 01:44 PM (Bdeb0)

473 448 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/355602.php
"I'm not coming back. I'm done...I actually do not care very much if Hillary Clinton is president. What would really be different?"
Posted by: Original Roy at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM

And yet, even HE was sane enough to recognize Trump has done well, don a MAGA cap and say he'd support Trump in 2020.
https://tinyurl.com/yb5r39hr

Posted by: Grimaldi at June 13, 2018 01:44 PM (LpV0I)

474 >>>460 "I'm not coming back. I'm done. For the past ten years of my life, I've made arguments, some of which I knew to be false, to defend and apologize for the GOP; I see now that I was a fool to do so.

I actually do not care very much if Hillary Clinton is president. What would really be different?"

Posted by: Original Roy at June 13, 2018 01:40 PM (9Tlm9)

He got better.
Posted by: blaster

...

actually I'm happy he posted that. I think that post holds up well.

What he omits from the quote is that that was written right after the GOP lied to us about repealing Obamacare-- again.

Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (8rNrN)

475 I actually do not care very much if Hillary Clinton is president. What would really be different?

I'm not sure why people keep bringing up Ace's fearful opposition to Trump and trying to throw it in his face. If he was really humiliated and embarrassed by that don't you think he'd have deleted or "archived" all those old posts??

Ace had good reason for fear: he believed with good reason at the time that this meant Hillary was 100% sure to win and that meant not only a danger to his livelihood but very likely his freedom or more.

And the fact that he learned and changed his mind proves that he's several steps ahead of, say, Goldberg or Kristol or a dozen other knucklehead NeverTrumpers who cannot seem to comprehend what is going on or why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (39g3+)

476 Bobby "Punchy" DeNiro was debauching 14 year olds in Fwance unless I am mistaken

-
I didn't know what DeNiro's nickname would be but I knew it wouldn't be "Thinky".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (+y/Ru)

477 432 "421 Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles"

Worse than Doonesbury?"

Clearly, neither of you ever were exposed to the Horror that was "Nancy".

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (k1TUh)

478 According to the geniuses in NYC, Houston is in the west :/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:28 PM (39g3+)

Hey, until the 90's those NY geniuses had Atlanta and Cincinnati in the West with Houston, LA, SF, SD.

The NFL had Atlanta and New Orleans in the West, Arizona in the East, and Dallas in the East.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly known as MrCaniac at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (fdTrp)

479 Prince Valiant.

Miles To Go.

Though I did like Foxtrot back in the day.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 13, 2018 01:46 PM (tVWQB)

480 actually I'm happy he posted that. I think that post holds up well.

What he omits from the quote is that that was written right after the GOP lied to us about repealing Obamacare-- again.

Posted by: ace

Look on the bright side; your judgement is far better than mine.

Posted by: Delaware at June 13, 2018 01:47 PM (rDwsX)

481 sometimes it just becomes apparent that if you want to get something done you simply have to get off your ass and do it yourself. Of course, getting off your ass is the very hard part as I am discovering

There are days I'm lucky I can get out of bed, "doing something" is not on the agenda.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:47 PM (39g3+)

482 Uber-liberal coastal Northern California

-
They could call it Moonbatopia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2018 01:47 PM (+y/Ru)

483 476 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (+y/Ru)

"Viagra Kid"

Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:48 PM (SzZnW)

484 **Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever. **

For Better For Worse.

Was SJW before SJW was a thing.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 01:48 PM (O7MnT)

485 I had a few conniptions during the primaries about Trump being the GOP nominee, but when he won the nomination I said, well, he's better than Hillary (who I was terrified would easily beat Trump), and when he won the Presidency I said, well, he's our President, and thank God Hillary isn't, so let's see what he can do. And while his, ahem, style is alien to me, I like what he's done. A lot. It's amazing now how many "conservatives" there are who I thought I liked but I now consider total asshats -- the fake opposition GOP that let Democrats nearly destroy our country (cf. Venezuela and the fake opposition there that let the Chavistas destroy the wealthiest country in Latin America). All the masks have fallen under Trump, and we are surrounded by traitors.

Posted by: Sessile B. Demille at June 13, 2018 01:48 PM (XcgmW)

486 written right after the GOP lied to us about repealing Obamacare-- again.

-
Those scamps!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 13, 2018 01:48 PM (+y/Ru)

487 Here is a map of the California three-state proposal:

https://tinyurl.com/y9cstpue

It's actually a non-intuitive irrational way to split up the state, in which the natural political lines are ignored. But nonetheless, as depicted:

The Los Angeles/Central Coast New State would be guaranteed Democratic, because it contains Los Angeles.

The "Southern California"/Inland Empire state would be guaranteed conservative, because it contains all the high-population conservative urban areas.

The "Northern California" new-state would be a toss-up; even though it contains the SF Bay Area, it also contains the northern central Valley and all the back-country areas. I'm not sure of the population balance, but I think the state would be in toss-up territory.

Posted by: zombie at June 13, 2018 01:48 PM (c+2jX)

488 Remember what all of this is REALLY about is globalists socialists demanding that we debauch the electoral process so they get 5-15% "Free Votes" because "arc of history."
Posted by: sven at June 13, 2018 01:41 PM (SzZnW)

Yep.. I worked the 2004 election in FL the district of recount ect.. I could tell you a great story but long story short I had about 40 votes flagged for improper assistance from a Haitian 'interpreter' she was physically voting for her clients.. Not to mention Al Frankens 300 votes found in the trunk of a car and Allen West dark room recount after he clearly won.. Many elections have surprisingly low total vote counts.

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 13, 2018 01:48 PM (ICWiF)

489 Hey, until the 90's those NY geniuses had Atlanta and Cincinnati in the West with Houston, LA, SF, SD.

Yeah. It made sense when the alignment was originally done: the Giants and Dodgers were in NYC, Cincinnatti and Atlanta were notably to the west of the other teams. I mean, the MLB was pretty fiercely clustered within 50 miles of the Atlantic Ocean until around 1950.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:49 PM (39g3+)

490 Mark Trail was the worst comic strip ever.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles"

Worse than Doonesbury?"

Ya know what was sad? Funky Winkerbein used to be funny (hall monitor had a water cooled machine gun bolted to the desk). They injected politics into it. It ruins everything it touches.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2018 01:49 PM (rDwsX)

491 Clearly, neither of you ever were exposed to the Horror that was "Nancy".
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (k1TUh)

Amy Schumer's role model.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2018 01:49 PM (y7DUB)

492 391
346 "Delaware shouldn't even be a state. At best, it should be a county,
maybe with its own congressional district. It can pick whichever
shithole state it wants to belong to: Jersey or Mary's land.

Posted by: BurtTC"

On the plus side, Delaware has nice beaches and sports gambling. But they sure churn out crap politicians.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:26 PM (OD2ni)

Delaware and DC belong to Maryland.

Rhode Island belongs to Massachusetts; Connecticut and Vermont belong to NY.

There. Eight blue Senate seats eliminated. Now we can let the Californians split apart.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 13, 2018 01:33 PM (RD7QR)

Add WV back to Virginia, and that would takeaway 3 Dem 1 GOP Senators to 2 R Senators.

Also add another 18 or so electoral votes to the GOP.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly known as MrCaniac at June 13, 2018 01:50 PM (fdTrp)

493 It's actually a non-intuitive irrational way to split up the state, in which the natural political lines are ignored. But nonetheless, as depicted:

That's how it breaks down politically as far as I can tell as well. I'm skeptical how strongly conservative ANY of California is, but compared to SF they're radically right wing in San Diego for instance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:50 PM (39g3+)

494 "Clearly, neither of you ever were exposed to the Horror that was "Nancy".
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM (k1TUh)"

Not true. There was an unfortunate looking girl in my HS we called Nancy. That was mean.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 13, 2018 01:51 PM (OD2ni)

495 There are days I'm lucky I can get out of bed, "doing something" is not on the agenda.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:47 PM (39g3+)

It can be almost anything. For example, one real issue in our case is establishing a database and doing what should be light maintenance. Not a major deal, but... somebody has to do it. Or, we could use an app. Really a range of volunteer services. I'm good at marcom so I volunteer that as a starter. Then you need to get brochures printed, etc.

Posted by: Keith at June 13, 2018 01:51 PM (USf3s)

496 And the fact that he learned and changed his mind proves that he's several steps ahead of, say, Goldberg or Kristol or a dozen other knucklehead NeverTrumpers who cannot seem to comprehend what is going on or why.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:45 PM"

I went back and re-read that post, and in fact it is a Cris de Couer against the GOP-e, and the way they had been doing business for at least 10 years at that point.

MOST conservatives felt that way at the time - THAT is why we chose Trump! Now it was not obvious at the time that Trump was going to be the answer to those complaints we had - I was very skeptical through the primaries. After he was nominated, I supported him, but did not believe he could win (I still trusted the MSM too much)

AFTER his win, I realized 2 very important things: First, Trump is one of those rare guys who can actually do things that I think are impossible, and Second, the MSM lied constantly about him and about everything else throughout the campaign, and that I actually should not believe anything they tell me. Those two realizations alone marked a radical change in my thinking about everything political.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 13, 2018 01:51 PM (k1TUh)

497 Holy crap Sylvia is still being put out. You might think I was exaggerating with my description

https://www.gocomics.com/sylvia

It looks like something a 4 year old would crank out using MS Paint, then written by his embittered cat lady aunt who works at the DMV

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 13, 2018 01:52 PM (39g3+)

498 I posted the earlier comment because it seems to run counter to "Weird how I could figure out the unavoidable trajectory of putting oneself into direct opposition to one's party", and some squaring of that circle could be enlightening.

Posted by: Original Roy at June 13, 2018 01:56 PM (9Tlm9)

499 Don't cry for me, South Carolina, the truth is I never Liked you . . .

Posted by: Mark Sanford at June 13, 2018 01:56 PM (EATOD)

500 Oh, FFS.
Quit ragging on Delaware.
It would be a lovely state if they just cut off that northern Wilmington blob.
Give it to Maryland. And give Delaware the MD Eastern Shore in return.
Then give Western Maryland to W VA.
And give Maryland DC and NoVA (Fairfax/Arlington) as compensation.

Voila! Deep blue Maryland (no change.)
Pink Virginia. Red Delaware. Hope! Change!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 13, 2018 01:56 PM (0jtPF)

501 Dondi was terrible. I didn't understand it. I didn't understand why you'd write a comic strip that wasn't funny and contained no fantastical elements. It was just some chubby-faced kid walking around and crap.

Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:57 PM (8rNrN)

502 19 repost of the nevertrumper's takedown

Why does the commentariat so despise Trump's success?
https://tinyurl.com/yc6yqrsf
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 13, 2018 12:43 PM (fceHP)

Because they fear a sea change, which means they would have to get a real job. Trump's election in 2016 absolutely, in their world view, can not be vindicated.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at June 13, 2018 01:59 PM (di1hb)

503 The "Northern California" new-state would be a toss-up; even though it contains the SF Bay Area, it also contains the northern central Valley and all the back-country areas. I'm not sure of the population balance, but I think the state would be in toss-up territory.

San Francisco Bay + Oakland + Sacramento + San Jose versus... a bunch of sparsely populated counties. I don't see how you can call that a toss-up.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 02:00 PM (O7MnT)

504 Speaking of the GOPe, notice they're going balls to the wall to pass Amigo Grande while CockCuriousCare repeal is just a vague memory.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2018 02:01 PM (y7DUB)

505 All three of the proposed new California's would have gone to Obama in 2012 and Hillary in 2016.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 13, 2018 02:02 PM (O7MnT)

506 We're South Carolina Bitch!

Posted by: Voters to Mark Sanford at June 13, 2018 02:03 PM (EATOD)

507 We should start pushing to get Zombie on the ballot for governor of Southern California. Sure she'd have to move, but it's probably our best bet to get one of our own into higher office.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2018 02:03 PM (4ErVI)

508 The "Southern California"/Inland Empire state would be guaranteed
conservative, because it contains all the high-population conservative
urban areas.

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except neither the IE, Orange County nor Insane Diego are all that conservative any more... you can color it purple, trending blue.

i predict all 3 would be Dem, which means 6 idiot Senators where we now only have 2.

this is a stupid idea.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 13, 2018 02:04 PM (ep7aA)

509
Woolf looks like a Pen Is Mightier

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 13, 2018 02:12 PM (pNxlR)

510 Silly man. Sanford probably did not lose because of the last minute tweet; but he DID LOSE because he was anti trump and his opponent was PRO TRUMP. That was the entire essence of her campaign. It was NOT about issues unrelated...etc. I live in the district.

Posted by: Doug Daman at June 13, 2018 02:21 PM (gBNW4)

511 Tribalism for wveeybody but White Chrsitian Men and women. Shocking that when playing by the rules forced upon us, this majority on America would rise up to the dismay of everybody else's tribe who only have shaming and name calling and screams of its not fair.

Idiots. But thanks for making the strong case of putting nationalsom and Americans First at the forefront as the new majority based party which is forming.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 13, 2018 02:21 PM (bZwzw)

512 One of his tweets mentions sitting on a bench, taking it in for half an hour.

Just like Ben Rhodes.

https://twitter.com/AviWoolf/status/1006958485643386880

Posted by: bob at June 13, 2018 02:25 PM (D4BQa)

513 Cardinal DiNardo: Our government has the
discretion in our laws to ensure that young children are not separated
from their parents and exposed to irreparable harm and trauma. Families
are the foundational element of our society and they must be able to
stay together.

Fenelon at June 13, 2018 01:01 PM
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Hey, I agree. Send em back to their families!!!

Posted by: Texian ette at June 13, 2018 02:52 PM (gou4q)

514 Do they not understand ...
Did they never notice ...
Do they not know ...
Did they not realize ...

Do they really not understand any of this?

To be charitable, I think that they did. But overriding all of this that they cannot admit to it; they cannot be wrong to the eyes of the deplorables.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 13, 2018 02:52 PM (X8DLV)

515 You understate the effect of Trump's tweet. The margin was 2500 votes, and Sanford is popular among conservatives from way back, an original Tea Party guy who I think was the first governor who refused to expand Medicaid under ObamaCare.
On top of that, Arrington avoided a runoff by just 300 votes with 50.5%.

Trump now has leverage over all the Republicans who've signed that discharge petition, if they are not retiring and still have a primary. Will he use it?

Posted by: MikeN at June 13, 2018 03:12 PM (o/eHL)

516 There are no #nevertreump conservatives. This tiny and ever shrinking group of dog turds are simply liberal uniparty operatives who claim to be conservatives so they can attempt to operate behind "enemy" lines.
Posted by: Publius Redux at June 13, 2018 12:53 PM (Fb9aZ)

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They're "conservative" in the sense that they love them some fancy cocktail parties, (leftist) megacorporations, and being just as enthusiastic about bloated government as long as they're the ones who get to steer the ship. (or in lieu of that, virtue-signal about how much better they'd steer)

In other words, yeah, you're right, but they think they're "conservative" because they want to give tax money handouts to corporations while "liberals" want to give handouts to baby butchers. Totally different.

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 13, 2018 03:13 PM (EfAMZ)

517 All I can say is, Molly is a rock star.

And for Sanford, just go away, you and your 'mid life crisis ' self.

Posted by: Redenzo at June 13, 2018 03:17 PM (14qvS)

518 Well if Hillary was President now there wouldn't be any golf.

Maybe some bedroom golf with Huma but none on the links.

Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2018 04:56 PM (Y274z)

519 So many experts have been revealed as being naked.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2018 05:25 PM (yQpMk)

520 Dondi was terrible. I didn't understand it. I didn't understand why you'd write a comic strip that wasn't funny and contained no fantastical elements. It was just some chubby-faced kid walking around and crap.

Posted by: ace at June 13, 2018 01:57 PM (8rNrN)

Mary Worth wept.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2018 05:29 PM (yQpMk)

521 Man, I just realized that this is not the top thread..

Bon Mot Status: Wasted.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 13, 2018 05:31 PM (yQpMk)

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