Soylo Gets Beaten Up by Girls

Solo loses the #1 box office spot the moment a big-budget movie competes with it. In this case, it was Oceans 8, but one imagines any movie with a high profile would have done the job.

Replacement director Ron Howard says he "feels badly" about Soylo's low box office returns. He acknowledged the idea of a "Soycott," sparked by fans pissed off about the Social Justice Wars sequel The Last Jedi.

Note that by responding to this idea, he's thereby sharing that idea with his followers.

There are several theories floating around about the film's lack of commercial success, including the idea that some fans are skipping the film because they didn't enjoy 2017's Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

I've been reading so many theories as to why 'Solo' hasn't been doing so well at the box office - sad to say, some SW fans are snubbing Solo b/c they're still upset over Last Jedi. If so, they're missing out & punishing a good film for something not its fault. #StarWars #Solo
— Kris Fairbanks (@kfairbanks2) June 6, 2018
Solo director Ron Howard personally responded to a fan's tweet this weekend about the theory. He said he's proud of the cast and crew and added, "As a director I feel badly when people who I believe (and exit polls show) will very likely enjoy a movie [and] don’t see it on a big screen with great sound."

Soylo will struggle to make even $200 million gross in the North American markets, making it the lowest-grossing Soy Wars movie ever.

As of this writing, Solo has earned $176.1 million domestically, meaning it's about $24 million away from hitting the $200 million mark. At first glance, it sounds like a foregone conclusion it'll get to that point, but there are a number of factors to keep in mind. For starters, interest in Solo is quite low, as evidenced by the film's $15.1 million intake this past weekend. Those numbers are almost definitely going down now with the impending arrival of Incredibles 2, which is expected to post the largest opening in Pixar's storied history. We're also only two weeks away from Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, and that sequel is also poised to be a massive hit. Solo is going to take a decline with multiplexes getting even more crowded in June.

The Empire Strikes Back was previously the lowest-grossing Star Wars movie, but bear in mind, we're talking about 1980 dollars there, not adjusted for inflation.

So Soylo will make fewer unadjusted, devalued 2018 dollars than the 1980 Empire Strikes Back.

Also, Soylo cost a gigantic fortune to shoot. And reshoot.

The Disney Shill Media and the Social Justice Warrior Praetorian Guard have been scrambled into defense mode, and are running the typical script -- the fandom is "toxic" and sexist and racist and probably voted for Trump.

Rumors surfaced this week that Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy might step down from company leadership in the aftermath of Solo: A Star Wars Story's box office failure. This comes amid rampaging racism, sexism, and other extreme toxic behavior from a segment of mostly male (and mostly white) fans who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.

There is no evidence for this "harassing female actors and artists for existing." This is simply the Lady Ghostbusters playbook, being run after the disaster instead of before it.

By the way, this article is not from the Huffington Post or Buzzfeed; this is from Forbes, which is one of the most obnoxious of the Disney Shill Sites and Social Justice Warrior propaganda outposts.

This is all part of a larger bigoted backlash of complaints against Star Wars for incorporating people of color and other types of diversity into the previously predominantly white male storytelling.

By "other types of diversity," he's referring to the disclosure made by co-screenwriter and talentless nepot Jonathan Kasdan that Lando Calrissian was "pansexual," a statement made to appease the Huffington Post crowd days before the family film's release.

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This is the same group of fans, remember, whose entire rant is rooted in their own personal politics and a desire to see their personal preferences projected onto the screen while nobody else is entitled to the same right or representation. That enraged reactionaries want to deny everybody else equal representation while demanding their own right to be heard and obeyed is hardly new or shocking, of course. These types of vulgar fans always existed, because fandom is just a portion of the population as a whole, and the population always includes angry self-entitled bigots.

In other words, it's fine to ignore them and to not care what they want or what they say, and to deny them the myopic whitewashed world they demand. They don't deserve representation of their ideas, since their ideas are backward, hateful, and devoid of merit in the first place. If you scream in anger about seeing other people represented, if you harass and insult and threaten marginalized people for daring to exist and to appear in movies, then you and your beliefs have no place in modern storytelling or modern society (except as villains to be defeated and cast aside forever).

Remember, this is Forbes, allegedly a reputable business magazine, and not Buzzfeed for Jezebel.

For balance, Forbes had its other SJW Disney Shill rebut the central claims of that article. Well, not rebut so much as restate.

Interesting, Disney Shill Scott Mendelson leads with a reference to Lady Ghostbusters.

Today is Ghostbusters Day, which supposedly celebrates Ivan Reitman's 1984 sci-fi comedy smash that was rebooted two years ago with Paul Feig's gender-swapped remake. I need not remind you of how that was received from the moment of its announcement, although we should remember that Leslie Jones was temporarily driven off social media after a coordinated troll attack bombarded her feeds with various racist and misogynistic messages. History repeated itself this week after Last Jedi co-star Kelly Marie Tran was driven off Instagram after months of racist and misogynistic comments that coincidentally never seem to be directed at Mark Hamill or Adam Driver.

There is no evidence that Kelly Marie Tran was "driven off" at all. She has made no statement about deactivating her Instagram account.

The Star Wars fans have always had their rotten apples. There are folks who are still mad, 21 years later, that George Lucas inserted CGI into the Star Wars trilogy and made Han Solo "shoot second." I do not know if these are the same folks who graduated to racism and sexism once the new Star Wars movies began putting women and minorities in more front-and-center roles. I tend to believe that these are just garden-variety racists and misogynistic trolls who use Star Wars fandom as a cover, but the clickbait and a reaction-friendly media is helping to turn their assaults into mainstream news and inflating their voice and their numbers.
Yes, you can dislike a Star Wars movie or a Ghostbusters reboot without being an alt-right troll or an incel schmuck.

Gee, thanks, Scott Mendelson.

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There is a difference between panning a movie or even passionately discussing a movie you disliked, and verbally assaulting an artist over that movie.
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If those engaging in this manbaby behavior keep getting the media to pay enough attention that they become part of the narrative, they will keep winning. Toxic fandom is nothing new.
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You can't entirely ignore evil. But giving them the attention they so desire partially so you can clap back or offer a perfect response doesn't help either.

I cant help but feel that Disney is pushing this idea out there. Scott Mendelson is a reliable transmitter of whatever nonsense spin his Khalisi Kathleen Kennedy would like to see in the media.

I do not expect Star Wars fans will enjoy being called sexist, racist, backwards and deserving of eternal defeat from the company that hopes to sell them tickets in the future.

Hey bigots, racists, sexists and manbabies, buy tickets for our movies or else.

Ethan Van Sciver discusses Disney weaponizing the media against its actual customers in this video. And this one. I enjoyed his personal attack on effete soibois.

Social Justice Warriors blaming their failures and incompetencies on Racist and Sexist White Men -- how unexpected!

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:25 PM

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1 Maaatlock!!!

Posted by: 2034 A.D. protesters at June 11, 2018 02:26 PM (Evws/)

2 Where's my belt-onion?!

Posted by: 2034 A.D. protesters at June 11, 2018 02:27 PM (Evws/)

3 Chief?

MCCLOUD!!!

Posted by: filbert at June 11, 2018 02:27 PM (953wK)

4 What? Wrong thread? WHAT???

Posted by: 2034 A.D. protesters at June 11, 2018 02:27 PM (Evws/)

5 What? Wrong thread? WHAT???
Posted by: 2034 A.D. protesters at June 11, 2018 02:27 PM (Evws/)

Go with it. It makes as much sense as SJWDisney.

Posted by: filbert at June 11, 2018 02:28 PM (953wK)

6 top ten, and my entire post count isn't as long as this movie review.

I wonder if Ace liked the movie...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 11, 2018 02:29 PM (8D42x)

7 They don't deserve representation of their ideas, since their ideas are backward, hateful, and devoid of merit in the first place.

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As I always say:

Even if I were to accept this as a valid reason to silence people, who defines the words used?

Can I do it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:29 PM (Hy0dE)

8 Eff Disney

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 11, 2018 02:29 PM (hMwEB)

9 Anyone else read some choke your chicken shit about Bourdain's death?

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at June 11, 2018 02:30 PM (Jj+59)

10 I do not expect Star Wars fans will enjoy being called sexist, racist, backwards and deserving of eternal defeat from the company that hopes to sell them tickets in the future.

Hey bigots, racists, sexists and manbabies, buy tickets for our movies or else.

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I don't know about you, but I'm sold.

I'm gonna pre-buy tickets for the next twelve Star Wars movies, now!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:30 PM (Hy0dE)

11 Hey, just keep banging that chicken Kathleen, that'll work.

Posted by: Archer at June 11, 2018 02:31 PM (gmo/4)

12 Perhaps if Bob DeNiro had been cast in it, the results would have been different.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 02:31 PM (EyPfd)

13 Keep on digging that hole SJW's. Eventually people will realize they don't need you AT ALL.

I thought I couldn't live without cable and cable news. I was laughably, hilariously wrong.

Infect enough formerly popular and great things with liberalism, and people will just walk away.

Thanks for speeding up the process I guess.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:31 PM (72PAC)

14 By all means, insult and degrade your fanbase. That will certainly drive up ticket sales.

THIS is how you got Trump.

Posted by: Guzalot at June 11, 2018 02:32 PM (prSvo)

15 For those interested, Bleeding Fool reprinted my Star Wars post from a few days ago:

https://tinyurl.com/y83qzzph

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:32 PM (Hy0dE)

16 also also, Empire killed on VCR rentals, TV screenings, and licenced screening events long after 1980. raked it in on moichandising, too.

NuWars, not so much. no boy is going to buy a windup toy that delivers social justice harangues and tells them the force is female.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:32 PM (5C+G3)

17 Masochists that enjoy being beaten by SJWs appears to be a niche market.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (aVYsC)

18 "Also, Soylo cost a gigantic fortune to shoot. And reshoot.

The Disney Shill Media and the Social Justice Warrior Praetorian Guard have been scrambled into defense mode, and are running the typical script -- the fandom is "toxic" and sexist and
racist and probably voted for Trump."

Well, as Mark Hamill said they should then give the people what they want.

Right?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

19 Since alienating half the electorate was obviously a winning strategy for Hillary, Disney decided that if it worked for Hillary they should employ the same strategy for people who buy movie tickets?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (qC1Sy)

20 5,000 word movie review and i'm not sure he likes the movie

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (Bdeb0)

21 As a professional creator, an author and illustrator, I'm gobsmacked by the attitude these people have. How exactly do they figure repeatedly and bitterly insulting their audience is going to work out in their favor?

If they'd just shut up and ignored the complaints about Last Jedi, they probably would have died down and people wouldn't have cared as much. But they couldn't do that, they had to start attacking their fans. "You bunch of sister-humping redneck racist bigot homophobe misogynists need to shut up and die!!!" is not the right response to ANYTHING a customer says about your work. EVER.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (39g3+)

22 Only a misogynist racist would be annoyed at Han Solo shooting second.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (CPk08)

23 How much blame falls on Ron Howard?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (LWu6U)

24 Rumors surfaced this week that Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy might step down from company leadership in the aftermath of Solo: A Star Wars Story's box office failure. This comes amid rampaging racism, sexism, and other extreme toxic behavior from a segment of mostly male (and mostly white) fans who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.

It's incomprehensible to me how anybody over the age of 20 could have written that sentence. All it lacked was an emoji and a description of the movie's detractors as poppy-heads.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 11, 2018 02:34 PM (RD7QR)

25 I don't know what's more sad.

That they've neutered Star Wars into an insulting farcical, unwatchable shitshow, or that they've ripped the balls off Oceans 8.
Everything is- oh yeah! Girl Power, girls can do everything guys can!
Really, how about peeing your name in the snow while holding your genitals?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:34 PM (VpIIl)

26 Wasn't it Mark Hamill who said performers should give the audience what it wants.....?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 11, 2018 02:34 PM (tVWQB)

27 "enraged reactionaries"

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Reactionaries. Holy shit, this stilted pompous cornball terminology is straight out of Marxist dogma. The whole screed is exactly the type of ponderous barnacle encrusted paranoid commie shit-barge we used to get from official media releases from the Soviet Union in the old days.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 11, 2018 02:34 PM (4TznP)

28 Was talking to a Lady in Virginia City this weekend...

Motivational Speaker, Ex Pro Volleyball player... nice Lady... lived in Southern Calif.

I was doing my normal opening doors thing, and she was like 'why can't I find Men who do that?'

My response? 'read the media... I'm a miscogynist racist bigot for doing so...'

She had no response...

Posted by: Don Q at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (NgKpN)

29 So Disney and the girls fucked the Golden Goose. Why can't they just state the obvious. They are supposed to be business people, but, no, its the audience's fault they made really shitty movies. I pray the Disney family can take back the enterprise from the Manhattan shmucks.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (2LelM)

30 NuWars, not so much. no boy is going to buy a windup toy that delivers social justice harangues and tells them the force is female.

Yeah somehow I don't see Admiral Holdme action figures selling real well. That poster of Rose in a speeder, not gonna be a big mover off the shelves. Nobody is gonna make memes of magic Leia flying through space, at least not ones that the creators of Star Wars are gonna like.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (39g3+)

31 This is the same group of fans, remember, whose entire rant is rooted in their own personal politics and a desire to see their personal preferences projected onto the screen while nobody else is entitled to the same right or representation. That enraged reactionaries want to deny everybody else equal representation while demanding their own right to be heard and obeyed

So when are they going to feature an Ed Gein-type character? When does he get his same right or representation for his personal preferences?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (+CzJu)

32 "Rumors surfaced this week that Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy might step down from company leadership in the aftermath of Solo: A Star Wars Story's box office failure."

Make all of your SJW excuses, but to parody a philosopher - "The Mouse has more holes to fill in the Everglades than there are stars in the galaxy far, far away."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (hLRSq)

33 Masochists that enjoy being beaten by SJWs appears to be a niche market

I prefer my dominatrix to demand I worship her alone, not women as a group.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (5C+G3)

34 Hollywood will continue to make money losers in the name of propagating their America hating, deviant world view. How many anti-American, anti-war bombs did they make . How many awards do they give these SJW subject films even though they are financial losers.

In the meantime, Mel Gibson makes 400,000 million with a movie they refused to make. Passion of Christ.

They also finance these propaganda movies by making wholesome animated movies that middle America flock to.

I hate these immoral communists.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (ZtIV1)

35 Verbal assault, eh?

I think the producers witnessing the festering dumpster fire they created is enough.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (ycWCI)

36

The next Soy Wars chapter would benefit greatly from the presence of DeNiro, Oprah, and Eminem as a panspecies pansexual pangender triad, and Maxine Waters in a cameo as Jabba the Butt Slut, and I hope I get residuals for this ground breaking guaranteed money making idea...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, What Trolls Under the Bridge Are Afraid Of... at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (UFLLM)

37 I saw Incel Schmuck open for Daft Punk at Pukkelpop in '06

Posted by: Hands at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (EzdLW)

38 21 As a professional creator, an author and illustrator, I'm gobsmacked by the attitude these people have. How exactly do they figure repeatedly and bitterly insulting their audience is going to work out in their favor?

If they'd just shut up and ignored the complaints about Last Jedi, they probably would have died down and people wouldn't have cared as much. But they couldn't do that, they had to start attacking their fans. "You bunch of sister-humping redneck racist bigot homophobe misogynists need to shut up and die!!!" is not the right response to ANYTHING a customer says about your work. EVER.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:33 PM (39g3+)

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There are parts of that movie that aren't really very defensible in terms of their narrative contribution to the whole film (and I overall like The Last Jedi).

I mean, how do you justify the Casino Planet distraction? It's vital to the movie? To its themes?

And when people start harping on the terribleness of that, where does a corporate giant, desperate to quiet the rancor, do? They insult like a pre-teen.

It's...understandable in a way, but it's also insane at the same time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (Hy0dE)

39 Isn't it amusing that Soylo was so unmanly, that it got beat out by a Chick flick???

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Q at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

40 How much blame falls on Ron Howard?

From what I've read and heard, the film its self isn't terrible, just not that great, and the guy playing Han ... isn't Han. At no point can you imagine him growing up to BE Han either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)

41 and we enraged reactionaries are too busy working to restore the Stuarts to give a crap about Star Wars.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (5C+G3)

42 23 How much blame falls on Ron Howard?
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Wasn't Ron brought in to save it from the first director's/writers' disaster?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (2LelM)

43 Heh, Mel Gibson wish he made 400,000 million.

Typo of course. 400 million.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (ZtIV1)

44 24 Rumors surfaced this week that Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy might step down from company leadership in the aftermath of Solo: A Star Wars Story's box office failure. This comes amid rampaging racism, sexism, and other extreme toxic behavior from a segment of mostly male (and mostly white) fans who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.

It's incomprehensible to me how anybody over the age of 20 could have written that sentence. All it lacked was an emoji and a description of the movie's detractors as poppy-heads.
Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 11, 2018 02:34 PM (RD7QR)

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Despite the childishness of the reporting, I was predicting this as soon as the Solo figures started coming in.

Star Wars was an excuse to print money, and Kennedy royally fucked it up. It wasn't just the SJW bent of everything, it was the huge mismanagement of Solo behind the scenes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:37 PM (Hy0dE)

45 How about they just remake "space movies" like "Ice Pirates"?

If you want to make a shitty SJW film, at least start with lower cost IP.

Posted by: wooga at June 11, 2018 02:37 PM (Fiwz/)

46 Ohhh...

Bad men been bad to me.

Whaaaaaaa!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 11, 2018 02:37 PM (7LY+6)

47 I will watch it. When it comes out on Redbox, in July.

Posted by: JAS at June 11, 2018 02:37 PM (3HNOQ)

48 The sequel will be Leia, The Warrior Princess.There will also be an animated version and Broadway musical.
The plot isn't important. It's female and Star Wars. It can't miss.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (VpIIl)

49 Who the hell is going to see that stupid Ocean's 8 movie, anyway?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (ZxqOz)

50 Disney's 3-step plan seems unbeatable:

1. Insult people who refuse to see its movies.

2. ???

3. Profit.

Posted by: Underpants Gnomes at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (LgxQn)

51 Shorter article: I'm rubber, you're glue; bounces off me and sticks to you!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (hLRSq)

52 I do not expect Star Wars fans will enjoy being called sexist, racist, backwards and deserving of eternal defeat from the company that hopes to sell them tickets in the future.

Except for hard lefties, no one cares about being called any of those things these days. It's just virtue signaling; calling someone else a name they think to be bad implies that they are not. I think a lot of us realize that.

The only reaction I have to being called any of those names is to add the company (or the person) doing the name calling to my mental Do Not Support list.

Posted by: G. Gnome, BAHT y'all at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (al6UK)

53 Welp, this is one female viewer that won't be spending a dime on Soy Wars schlock. Okay, I stopped at the second prequel and have never gone back, so it's not really this keeping me away. It is the consistently bad story-telling and assumption of ownership of my viewing (which costs money) as if I *owed* it to them because of a female producer. For that matter, come to think of it, not only have I not spent money since that point I haven't watched any when it wouldn't cost anything but time either. Watching paint dry would be a more valuable use of the most finite of resources.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (rp9xB)

54 34 Hollywood will continue to make money losers in the name of propagating their America hating, deviant world view. How many anti-American, anti-war bombs did they make . How many awards do they give these SJW subject films even though they are financial losers.

In the meantime, Mel Gibson makes 400,000 million with a movie they refused to make. Passion of Christ.

They also finance these propaganda movies by making wholesome animated movies that middle America flock to.

I hate these immoral communists.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:35 PM (ZtIV1)

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Is that why there's no sequel to the Ghostbusters movie being made?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (Hy0dE)

55 Star Wars was an excuse to print money, and Kennedy royally fucked it up
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If she were a white guy, she'd be fired already.

Posted by: simplemind at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (F7HeR)

56 I figure a director can only do so much with crap material and crap producers pushing crap. So I don't blame Ron Howard, who actually does know what he's doing.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (tVWQB)

57 Not sure how much the SJW angle has to do with the failure of Solo. Might just be a case of going to the well one time too many. The wrong movie at the wrong time.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (fRU2t)

58 And you know what, Solo wasn't even that bad.

By no means was it a horrific raping of the source material and injection and pure liberal trash into a formerly great franchise, like TLJ was.

It...was okay. They did a not terrible representation of Han, Lando and Chewy (faint praise I know, but that's where SW is now.) They did a decent job creating an okay movie. Yeah some of the writing was bad, and yeah most of it was predictable.

But it didn't massacre Star Wars like TLJ and to an extent FA.

But Solo is most certainly facing the backlash of those two movies.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (72PAC)

59 45 How about they just remake "space movies" like "Ice Pirates"?

If you want to make a shitty SJW film, at least start with lower cost IP.
Posted by: wooga at June 11, 2018 02:37 PM (Fiwz/)

Wasn't that the one with space-herpes?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (ycWCI)

60 How about they just remake "space movies" like "Ice Pirates"?

Ahh, the Canadian Space Program story

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (Bdeb0)

61 I see...if I choose not to spend my money, it's "harassment."

Bite me, Hollywood.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (Boy/L)

62 Han shot his wad first!

Posted by: Donald Gloverissian at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (EzdLW)

63
Everything is the White Man's fault is normal explanation for failure these days.
Cue the "help, I'm being repressed" monty python skit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (r+sAi)

64 From what I've read and heard, the film its self isn't terrible, just not that great, and the guy playing Han ... isn't Han. At no point can you imagine him growing up to BE Han either.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)

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Why does it not surprise me that Ron Howard was able to make a decent film even after the disastrous start?

Have to give Mr. Howard credit. He appears to know how to do his job.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (qC1Sy)

65 Who else called non-fans deplorable? How'd that work out?

Posted by: jd at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (IiR2y)

66 How is Ocean's Eight even making money? Who is going to see it?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (yQpMk)

67 >>who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.

So...GamerGate 2.0: Feminists attack a guy thing, and when guys react poorly it's called "harassing women for existing."

Projection, thy name is Feminism!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (W+vEI)

68 49 Who the hell is going to see that stupid Ocean's 8 movie, anyway?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (ZxqOz)

About 10 people. Unfortunately, that is 5 more than will go to see Solo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (ycWCI)

69 Casting manbabies in the leading male roles doesn't help either. Some actors are just too pretty to be scruffy space rogues.

Posted by: Fritz at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (2Mnv1)

70 50 Disney's 3-step plan seems unbeatable:

1. Insult people who refuse to see its movies.

2. ???

3. Profit.
Posted by: Underpants Gnomes at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (LgxQn)

We'll make it up on sequels!

Posted by: Disney Corp at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (NgKpN)

71 What they don't seem to get is that people like female leads, if they are well written and entertaining female leads. We cheered on Ripley in Aliens, we loved watching Sarah Conner in Terminator. We don't give a damn if its a boy or a girl if you just make a decent movie.

If you make a crappy movie, then people hate it no matter who the star is. Remember Hudson Hawk? I think there was like one woman in the entire film (God save us from Sarah Bernhardt) but people despised it because it was a crappy movie.

This is so basic and obvious and no-brainer. Its clear to anyone sane.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (39g3+)

72 Hey, just keep banging that chicken Kathleen, that'll work.

Posted by: Archer at June 11, 2018 02:31 PM (gmo/4)

"Save me, Obi-Wan! You're my only hope!"

Posted by: The Chicken at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (hLRSq)

73 40 How much blame falls on Ron Howard?

From what I've read and heard, the film its self isn't terrible, just not that great, and the guy playing Han ... isn't Han. At no point can you imagine him growing up to BE Han either.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)

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Howard had an impossible job to do.

Save a movie 75% of the way through production (by reshooting almost everything that had been shot).

I like Howard (Apollo 13 and Rush!), but he's a technician more than a storyteller. Someone competent who can bring a good script to life, not someone who can find worth in something that doesn't already have it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (Hy0dE)

74 well, having read that, I can officially remove myself from star wars fandom. and man, that really hurts.

I skipped Solo because last jedi wasn't that great, and the sjw posturing that has nothing to do with the story, it's sole purpose was to make the children feels better.

but since I'm a racist, misogynist, bigot, etc. then they don't need my polluted money. fuck them in the squeekhole with some rusty rebar.

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (8D42x)

75 They should have recast Harrison Ford. Except his character would be some arrogant, drunk, man-whore who drinks and humps his way across the Galaxy.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (VpIIl)

76 Also, if they had a good story, Star Wars fans would show up to a Star Wars movie staring RuPaul in draggiest drag that ever dragged. Or something.

It's not the non white male thing that's the problem. It's the story thing.

Posted by: G. Gnome, BAHT y'all at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (al6UK)

77 I do not expect Star Wars fans will enjoy being called sexist, racist, backwards and deserving of eternal defeat from the company that hopes to sell them tickets in the future.

Great business model. Write unwatchable movies that are sure to piss-off your core audience in order to placate the people you share cocktail party space with but who will never, ever watch said movie. Then, when the movie bombs predictably, you react with anger at your core audience in order to further placate the people you share cocktail party space with but who will never, ever watch said movie.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Bankrupt.

Posted by: DocJ at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (NYS7S)

78 alternate headline: A Kennedy Takes The Wheel, And You Won't Believe What Happens Next

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (5C+G3)

79 Maybe in the next movie they can have Han's rapping or something?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (2LelM)

80 I finally saw the Female Ghostbusters (free, on cable, of course) and what jumped out at me was first, how heavily they relied on a few sight gags from the first movie Ectoplasmic slime was done a little bit in the first one, so this one had to do it over and over and over, in a gross amount. By the 4th or 5th time it lost any effectiveness whatsoever.

Also, I was surprised by how badly edited the movie was - don't see that in a big budget production. Towards the end, the movie puts all this time and effort into setting up this big dance scene in Times Square with Chris Hemsworth and the Army guys, and the get right up to it - and it's just dropped. It's a jarring break, it's like what, did someone cut part of the movie out for commercials? finally in the credits you seem some of the footage that was supposed to go there.

The point isn't that it was good or bad - it's that if you're going to spend 10 full minutes of the movie setting up one particular scene, then don't just cut that scene and hope your audience won't notice. For that alone, I would rate it as a remarkably badly made film.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (k1TUh)

81 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (Hy0dE)

Probably need to ask Bill Murray about that.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (ZtIV1)

82 55 Star Wars was an excuse to print money, and Kennedy royally fucked it up
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If she were a white guy, she'd be fired already.
Posted by: simplemind at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (F7HeR)

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Golden parachute and all, but yeah, he'd be gone by now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (Hy0dE)

83

Space Herpes!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, What Trolls Under the Bridge Are Afraid Of... at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (UFLLM)

84 66 How is Ocean's Eight even making money? Who is going to see it?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 11, 2018 02:39 PM (yQpMk)

Ya stoopid or sumptin ??

Posted by: Cis that knits cherios in hex schmundie at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (iOL28)

85 What they don't seem to get is that people like female leads, if they are well written and entertaining female leads.

People like female leads if they're pretty and have nice racks.

Sure, there are one or two isolated exceptions but that's the general rule.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (ZxqOz)

86 Who gives a cr*p about any of this Disney movie shit.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (CeJUf)

87 Oddly, some largely apolitical friends who wouldn't know SJW from a hole in the ground and just like Star Wars, went to see the movie and seemed to like it.

I don't get out to movies much, but I'll probably catch this one on Blu-Ray.

Posted by: MW at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (wNx6K)

88 1. Insult people who refuse to see its movies.

2. ???

3. Profit.

1. Insult people who vote for Trump.

2. ???

3. Win elections.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (Boy/L)

89 Forbes.com needs big friends, and Disney is a big foot across the media. It's always about appeasing them. The whole SJW campaign is funny, it will just aggravate the SJW further.

Posted by: standfast24 at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (uUJEZ)

90 Seen on Reddit....

http://tinyurl.com/y8sp9mj4

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (Enq6K)

91 When you have to add a modifier to the word Justice, it no longer is Justice.

And deep down people sense that and are rebelling.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (FWsqf)

92 "I do not expect Star Wars fans will enjoy being called sexist, racist, backwards and deserving of eternal defeat from the company that hopes to sell them tickets in the future."

Mark Hamill constatly calls them that on Twitter. Genius marketing there you shitty actor. Corvette Summer sucked.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (OD2ni)

93 78 alternate headline: A Kennedy Takes The Wheel, And You Won't Believe What Happens Next
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (5C+G3)

Thread winner.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (72PAC)

94 So is Lucas planning on buying back the property at a dime on the dollar?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (2LelM)

95 81 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (Hy0dE)

Probably need to ask Bill Murray about that.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:40 PM (ZtIV1)

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They can make new Ghostbusters movies with the ladies all they want without Murray's involvement.

Why aren't they making Lady Ghostbusters 2?

If the film industry is willing to throw away millions of dollars to preach, why aren't they doing it with Lady Ghostbusters?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (Hy0dE)

96 It may be a great irony that the real Rebel Alliance is the audience.

That would be fitting.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (FWsqf)

97 The "toxic fandom" excuse is bullshit.

The fans who are protesting are the ones who love the SW Universe for what it was: a place for storytelling about the struggle of good vs. evil.

The true toxic fandom is the one that eventually consumes every fucking SF/fantasy product: the SJWs who want it to be about them and their pet causes. The fat, green-haired, horn-rimmed glasses wearing scrunts who write endlessly about how a minor Harry Potter character is actually polyamorous queer fairy-kin and ohmygod isn't that so great!? Get out of your bedroom, go on a diet, work out, get some hobbies that are interesting, and maybe you'll actually meet a decent guy who will fuck the stupid out of you.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (Tnhbr)

98 >>There is a difference between panning a movie or even passionately discussing a movie you disliked, and verbally assaulting an artist over that movie.

Oh, I think there is a long history of fans bashing a poor casting choice, or an actor's "take" on a beloved character that does not match the source material.

Seem to recall Matthew Goode getting all kinds of crap over his Ozymandias portrayal and him announcing the H8Rs could all blow him.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (W+vEI)

99 94 So is Lucas planning on buying back the property at a dime on the dollar?
Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (2LelM)

That's arguably the best possible outcome of all this.

Besides a complete reboot of Star Wars outside of Episodes 4,5 and 6.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (72PAC)

100 This comes amid rampaging racism, sexism, and other extreme toxic behavior from a segment of mostly male (and mostly white) fans who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.

I get it: If we white males had any decency, we'd kill ourselves.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (+CzJu)

101 Y'all just KNOW that if they re-made "Ice Pirates" it would wind up being "Ass Pirates."

Posted by: filbert at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (953wK)

102 Howard knew what the job entailed and got paid for it. When things are "impossible" you beg off.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (VpIIl)

103 75 They should have recast Harrison Ford. Except his character would be some arrogant, drunk, man-whore who drinks and humps his way across the Galaxy.
Posted by: Marcus T

You mean like Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds ?

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (Bdeb0)

104 I was always on the Trek side of the Trek-v-Wars debate, but watched the first couple of SW reboots with an open mind.

They lost me with Rogue One and I have no interest in dropping any more cash on what I honestly hope is a dying franchise.

Also, in spite of my being a Trekkie for going-in 45-years, I've not watched a second of the new reboot, I have no idea if it's even on, what station, or even what it's name is. Because fuck you, SJW kneelers.

Posted by: DocJ at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (NYS7S)

105 Speaking of Mel Gibson, he would have directed a badass Solo movie with the expected Solo snark.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (ZtIV1)

106 The backlash from fans is not because of strong woman characters or people of color, the original series had that and was inbraced and adored by fans for decades, what is being objected to is the hectoring and bullying to embrace rebooted movies with hamfisted plots and storylines that don't serve or advance a coherent and compelling story arc but are mere tools for advancing a political and propaganda agenda.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (/03ll)

107 And it's lost to a chick flick remake of a tired franchise, that got poor reviews

Posted by: Zombie Hannibal Lecter at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (n+6mJ)

108 George Clooney was also derided for his Batman - was that mean-duding by cis Nazis?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (W+vEI)

109 That said I am looking forward to The Incredibles II. The first one will probably not be beat, but Pixar is rarely ever wrong in giving the audience what it wants.

Funny that part of the Mouse House has figured it out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (hLRSq)

110 104
Also, in spite of my being a Trekkie for going-in 45-years, I've not watched a second of the new reboot, I have no idea if it's even on, what station, or even what it's name is. Because fuck you, SJW kneelers.
Posted by: DocJ at June 11, 2018 02:43 PM (NYS7S)

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Rainn Wilson makes a fantastic Harry Mudd.

That is literally the only good thing about that show.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (Hy0dE)

111 MiL update. She was diagnosed with a tumor, which is bleeding, causing pressure on the brain, nausea, incoherence. She is somewhat stable in ICU. Surgery at 4 pm PT. FiL still en route.

Thank you for your continued prayers for my dear wife and her family, and my two boys, all of whom love her dearly and are crushed or will be. We have not told the boys much.

She is the Grandma that every grandchild deserves. Wife and I would joke that we didn't exist when she was around, from sun up to sun down.

She keeps asking to see them but they cannot go in, and she can't leave. We're going to try to FaceTime soon.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (gTYjx)

112 102 Howard knew what the job entailed and got paid for it. When things are "impossible" you beg off.

I thought you called Tom Cruise.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (kUmUV)

113 109 That said I am looking forward to The Incredibles II. The first one will probably not be beat, but Pixar is rarely ever wrong in giving the audience what it wants.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (hLRSq)

I'm so worried they're going to liberalize the hell out of it.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (72PAC)

114 "Toxic Fandom" is the "fandom" that gets people like Larry Correia disinvited as a Guest of Honor from SF/gamer conventions.

Posted by: filbert at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (953wK)

115 Shorter version: How dare you bigots not lap up the crap we're laying down?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (+CzJu)

116 They should have cast Harvey Weinstein in the lead role. He could go around exposing himself and hitting on Wookies while drinking vodka martinis and hosting Roman orgies.
I bet people would watch that...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (VpIIl)

117 I like Howard (Apollo 13 and Rush!), but he's a technician more than a storyteller.

I agree, he was the wrong choice to salvage this kind of film. My guess is that he was brought in because of his name and previous successes, probably on the executive producer's insistence.

Disney's next big idea

http://tinyurl.com/y774wvv3

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:45 PM (39g3+)

118 There is a difference between panning a movie or even passionately discussing a movie you disliked, and verbally assaulting an artist over that movie.

LOL.

And there's a difference between loving a movie and idolizing an "artist" over that movie ... but Hollywood and the media certainly never had any problem with that. In fact, that has always been promoted and encouraged.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 11, 2018 02:45 PM (ZxqOz)

119 Also, in spite of my being a Trekkie for going-in 45-years, I've not watched a second of the new reboot,

It wasn't a reboot. KHAN SHOWS UP IN THE SECOND MOVIE. It's lazy writing, just like all the new SW crapapalooza.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:45 PM (Boy/L)

120 I like to touch pee pees with other men.

Posted by: Landoooooohhhh! at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (LgxQn)

121 Kelly Marie Tran should also the child star who portrayed young Anikan, or the dude who portrayed Joffrey in GoT. Although in the latter case, he's getting harassed for playing the character too well - people hate him as if he were Joffrey.

Oh boo ho it's a girl thing. Not.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (W+vEI)

122 Isn't one supposed to stop being part of ANY "fandom" and start being all-business around they time they reach about, oh, 17 years old?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (WDCYi)

123 She is the Grandma that every grandchild deserves. Wife and I would joke that we didn't exist when she was around, from sun up to sun down.

She keeps asking to see them but they cannot go in, and she can't leave. We're going to try to FaceTime soon.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (gTYjx)

Continued prayers flounder...

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (Enq6K)

124 Who gives a cr*p about any of this Disney movie shit.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 11, 2018 02:41 PM (CeJUf)

It is part of the culture wars that are political wars are downstream from. The bodies floating in the river give you an idea of the casualty count and how things are going.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (hLRSq)

125 Solo director Ron Howard personally responded to a fan's tweet this weekend "

Well of course he did. It was someone from their own PR firm...

/heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (7LY+6)

126 There is a difference between panning a movie or even passionately discussing a movie you disliked, and verbally assaulting an artist over that movie.

So, "Fuck DeNiro!" is over the line, I suppose.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (Boy/L)

127 Long story short: maybe it's just time to pull the plug on Star Wars.

The whole premise was a bit thin in the first place, and now it's been beaten to death.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:47 PM (+CzJu)

128 "People like female leads if they're pretty and have nice racks. "

What's her face that screwed up Brad Pitt's first marriage, starring in Laura Croft, Tomb Raider.

I liked that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 02:47 PM (EyPfd)

129 This comes amid rampaging racism, sexism, and other extreme toxic behavior from a segment of mostly male (and mostly white) fans who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.

Narrator: As Star Wars has virtually no female or minority fans, this would be the vast majority of their entire fan base

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)

130 It wasn't a reboot. KHAN SHOWS UP IN THE SECOND MOVIE. It's lazy writing, just like all the new SW crapapalooza.

I was talking about the series, specifically. I actually thought the first 2 reboot movies were pretty good and the third, well, not so much.

Posted by: DocJ at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (NYS7S)

131 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (Hy0dE)

What's your point? They failed at making their SJW point in Lady Ghostbusters. They will move on to ruining something else in their SJW propaganda attempts. Are you trying to deny they make known money losers because they have an agenda?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (ZtIV1)

132 117 I like Howard (Apollo 13 and Rush!), but he's a technician more than a storyteller.

I agree, he was the wrong choice to salvage this kind of film. My guess is that he was brought in because of his name and previous successes, probably on the executive producer's insistence.

Disney's next big idea

http://tinyurl.com/y774wvv3
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:45 PM (39g3+)

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My bet:

He's competent and can be pushed around by Kennedy.

Also, he was willing to take the money and the job.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (m4VKF)

133 Nobody wants to go to the movies to be nagged by a robot. Which was basically the whole movie. The female characters drive every aspect of the the action and then men just stumble through it. It was not a movie about Han Solo.

Best part of the movie was when Lando ripped L3's head off in a failed rescue attempt. I think the crowd cheered and laughed. But then as we know she became the Brokeback Falcon.

There was so much not to like. Still can't remember Solo's "girlfriend's" name. Forgettable character. But, she beat up the old white dude though.

What a clown show of a movie.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (ymnmz)

134 Gamergate vets are just shaking their heads. Soylo was inevitable.

Posted by: Alskari at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (tdVTp)

135 This is the same group of fans, remember, whose entire rant is rooted in their own personal politics and a desire to see their personal preferences projected onto the screen while nobody else is entitled to the same right or representation.

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Uh....lemme get ya a mirror...brb.

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (Enq6K)

136 Hollywood still butt hurtz over the commies being called out

Posted by: REDACTED at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (iOL28)

137 I liked that."

Ah yes. She turned 'round...

You were saying?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (7LY+6)

138 >>MiL update. She was diagnosed with a tumor, which is bleeding, causing pressure on the brain, nausea, incoherence. She is somewhat stable in ICU. Surgery at 4 pm PT. FiL still en route

Oh, man, I am so sorry to hear that. When you mentioned stomach flu I had flashbacks to when a relative had stomach flu - or so we thought, until a trp to the ER fond cancer. Sending prayers!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (W+vEI)

139 125 Solo director Ron Howard personally responded to a fan's tweet this weekend "

Well of course he did. It was someone from their own PR firm...

/heh
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (7LY+6)

Such a cynic.

I bet you think that the 300 copies of Tookie Williams' book were bought by the 300 lawyers in his defense counsel's firm as a ploy to get Williams off the hook ("he wrote a children's book!").

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (+CzJu)

140 I thought the purpose of entertainment was to escape from our reality for a few moments. Silly me!

Posted by: Octopussy at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (U4wK6)

141 Long story short: maybe it's just time to pull the plug on Star Wars.

There are some really good unexplored storylines, but we'll never get to them because they would require some good writing. What's up with Palpatine, for instance?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (Boy/L)

142 The whole premise was a bit thin in the first place, and now it's been beaten to death.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:47 PM (+CzJu)

The Star Wars universe should have no problem finding stories to tell. The idea of a galaxy-wide war between magic-wielding space monks which destroys the old order has a huge amount of potential. All of it squandered.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (Tnhbr)

143 130 It wasn't a reboot. KHAN SHOWS UP IN THE SECOND MOVIE. It's lazy writing, just like all the new SW crapapalooza.

I was talking about the series, specifically. I actually thought the first 2 reboot movies were pretty good and the third, well, not so much.
Posted by: DocJ at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (NYS7S)

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I love Beyond.

It's the most unabashedly fun of the three.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (m4VKF)

144 There are several theories floating around about the film's lack of
commercial success, including the idea that some fans are skipping the
film because they didn't enjoy 2017's Star Wars: The Last Jedi.
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And by 'didn't enjoy' what we mean is 'recognized everyone in a decision making position involved in this picture hates me because I'm white, I'm a man, and I like star wars, and am therefore not part of the freakshow that is Disney's preferred demographic'.

Posted by: Methos at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (XQvuQ)

145 This comes amid rampaging racism, sexism, and other extreme toxic behavior from a segment of mostly male (and mostly white) fans who've taken to harassing female actors and artists for existing.
There is no evidence for this "harassing female actors and artists for existing."

This is simply the Lady Ghostbusters playbook, being run after the disaster instead of before it.

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Who would have thunk it?
Those paying the freight actually voicing what they want to see.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (I9SqL)

146 People like female leads if they're pretty and have nice racks.

I'm a people. I don't care about the female leads having nice racks and if they're pretty. I care about an interesting story, with good actors

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (0/+vJ)

147 The Underworld franchise was pretty good.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (ZtIV1)

148 You want a winner, restage the Battle of Stalingrad using the Star Wars motif and tell the girls to stay in the fucking bunker.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (2LelM)

149 142 What's up with Palpatine, for instance?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (Boy/L)

He's filling up the Candiru Tanks and gassing up the Helicopters, boss.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (WDCYi)

150 Also, he was willing to take the money and the job.

I think that if offered a dumptruck full of cash and a chance at a Star Wars movie, you'd have a hard time finding a director alive who'd say 'no.'

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (39g3+)

151 I'm so worried they're going to liberalize the hell out of it.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (72PAC)

Me too. But hey, the first one was so awesome that if this is just a pale ghost it will still be worth seeing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

152 The soibois are salty over Jenny Nicholson's complaints about Soylo given their comments and the 10% thumbs-down rating:

https://youtu.be/XP8FZ4cBzaI

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (NL6wI)

153 Why is Steve Forbes allowing writers like this for his magazine?

I'm not saying he's a rabid right winger, but he's definitely a center-right guy that usually has editorials that are right leaning.

It's one thing to have different opinion writers, but this is positioned as factual reporting, not a hot take on the entertainment industry from a lefty SJW.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (lKmt3)

154 How did Will Smith and Denzel Washington become such big box office stars? As members of one of those "marginalized" identity groups, all those raaaaaacist white fans should have ensured that they were box office poison.

Same with that Gal Godot. How did her movie make so much money? All those misogynistic, raaaaaacist white fans surely could not have paid money to see a movie in which a mere woman played the lead!

Disney, and Kathleen Kennedy or whoever is putting this shit out there on Disney's behalf, is full of it. Movie fans, white or not, will pay to see movies that are reasonably good, no matter who the lead actors are. They'll pay to see black guys, they'll pay to see women, they'll pay to see women who are black (see, e.g., Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams, etc.) in lead roles, if the movie is any good. What they won't pay to see is shitty movies that feature women and minorities in lead roles not because they're good actors, but because they're "marginalized" people and the raaaaaacist fans need to be taught some stupid lesson about "inclusion" by the holier-than-thou studio "elites."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (fqUgw)

155 101 Y'all just KNOW that if they re-made "Ice Pirates" it would wind up being "Ass Pirates."

And then the inevitable sequels - "Ass Pirates II - the Turd Burglers!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (k1TUh)

156 I am not sure when it was exactly but it was during the prequels.

There was a group that expressed the opinion that the prequels where better then the originals.

This by and large got laughed with the exception that some of the original fan agreed that Return of the Jedi was worse then the prequels. (Yes there are some ewok haters out there).

George Lucas then 'splained that he had intended to make the ewoks wookies but had not been able to get that to work on film.

Lucas continued to say the ewoks where meant to represent the Viet Cong and the Storm Troopers the American Military.

I have not watch any Lucas or Soy Wars or now Disney product since.

Posted by: Big V at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (ZvLtE)

157 I'm hoping they remake "The Dirty Dozen" but with women. Stormy Daniels type women.

Posted by: Jolo at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (WrMOC)

158 Who doesn't remember the big boost films like Guardians of the Galaxy received for berating people who didn't want to see it in the first place?

Straightforward from here.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (vDqXW)

159 131 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:42 PM (Hy0dE)

What's your point? They failed at making their SJW point in Lady Ghostbusters. They will move on to ruining something else in their SJW propaganda attempts. Are you trying to deny they make known money losers because they have an agenda?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:48 PM (ZtIV1)

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The point is, people are saying that Disney will continue to run Star Wars into the ground because it's a loss leader and they can do what they want with it no matter what.

Well, Paramount's example with Lady Ghostbusters says otherwise.

If preaching to the choir at $300-500 million a pop is more important than making money, then we'd be looking at Lady Ghostbusters 3 entering production this summer for a 2019 release right after Lady Ghostbusters 2 bombed out last year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (m4VKF)

160 102 Howard knew what the job entailed and got paid for it. When things are "impossible" you beg off.

Not necessarily. Maybe they made him an offer he could not refuse?
Maybe he didn't have final edit.

Maybe he needed the cash to fix his roof.

Maybe they made a deal where he gets funding for a pet project and it was worth the hassle.

Or maybe he bought into the concept-- i don't know, but i wonder.

He always was a bit of a dweeb, just ask Arthur Fonzarelli.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (LWu6U)

161 Another thing, is that back in 1980 it cost $3 to see a movie not $12.

So the total people count seeing movies is way down and SJW films are barely getting a small fraction of the percent of movie goers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (pw+jk)

162 Next up; an all female cast in a remake of The Untouchables.
They will all be dressed in men's clothing from the 1920's.
It's the a story of the "real" balls behind the legend.
Please shoot me now....

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:52 PM (VpIIl)

163 150 Also, he was willing to take the money and the job.

I think that if offered a dumptruck full of cash and a chance at a Star Wars movie, you'd have a hard time finding a director alive who'd say 'no.'
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (39g3+)

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David Fincher apparently did (VII, not Solo).

Of course, now he's obsessed with making really handsome looking Lifetime movies.

I don't get some people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:52 PM (m4VKF)

164 Palpatine will be remembered as the one man who saw what was coming and worked to stop it.

lasering a whole planet was excessive. free TIE fighter rides would have got the job done

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:52 PM (5C+G3)

165 Why can't they just admit that the movies blow and stop calling everyone fucking racist? I mean, if everyone is racist, no one is.

Stop making bloated budget shitty movies.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (F4u7C)

166 156 Lucas continued to say the ewoks where meant to represent the Viet Cong and the Storm Troopers the American Military.

I have not watch any Lucas or Soy Wars or now Disney product since.
Posted by: Big V at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (ZvLtE)

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The rebels in the first one were the Viet Cong. The Empire was the US.

It's been there from the beginning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (m4VKF)

167 Well, Paramount's example with Lady Ghostbusters says otherwise.

If preaching to the choir at $300-500 million a pop is more important than making money, then we'd be looking at Lady Ghostbusters 3 entering production this summer for a 2019 release right after Lady Ghostbusters 2 bombed out last year.
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Serious question. Who runs Paramount? I know its not Kathleen Kennedy but are you saying an analogue . . .

Posted by: simplemind at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (PvnNw)

168 121 Kelly Marie Tran should also the child star who portrayed young Anikan, or the dude who portrayed Joffrey in GoT. Although in the latter case, he's getting harassed for playing the character too well - people hate him as if he were Joffrey.

Oh boo ho it's a girl thing. Not.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:46 PM (W+vEI)
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people were really mean to Jake Lloyd. He said that role ruined his childhood.

Posted by: not the mama at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (t2AQi)

169 the ewoks where meant to represent the Viet Cong

How racist is this statement on a scale of one to Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (Boy/L)

170 Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 11, 2018 02:50 PM (fqUgw)

I think that's well stated and I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (0/+vJ)

171 161 Another thing, is that back in 1980 it cost $3 to see a movie not $12.

All the "movies" that I attended cost $7.50 and $2 bucks for a setup.

*spits*

Posted by: REDACTED at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (iOL28)

172 164 Palpatine will be remembered as the one man who saw what was coming and worked to stop it.

lasering a whole planet was excessive. free TIE fighter rides would have got the job done
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 02:52 PM (5C+G3)

SMR Stormtroopers who could actually shoot might have helped.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (WDCYi)

173 The next Soy Wars movie should cast Robert DeZero as someone, anyone, invent a character, make him a cross dressing droid sexer.

Maximize your viewing audience.

Then tell them they're hating sexist pro NAZIs if they don't see it.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (37IEG)

174 Same with that Gal Godot. How did her movie make so much money?

Wonder Woman is a perfect example of how to make a movie work, and yet it still suffered because DC had crapped all over their franchise so badly people weren't willing to give it a shot. That really was a pretty good film, it has flaws but overall I liked it. And Gal Gadot is not only wonderful to look at, but carries the role really well.

Wonder Woman did what fans wanted to see, in a way that non-fans could enjoy, with a character people liked to watch, and hey! It made money! There was almost no preaching in it beyond basic "don't be evil" platitudes, the story was pretty tight, and there was some genuine heroism in the movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (39g3+)

175 ...Lucas continued to say the ewoks where meant to represent the Viet Cong and the Storm Troopers the American Military...

If that were true then the Storm Troopers would have won. Because America kicks ass.

But fuck Lucas anyway if that's how he thought.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (FWsqf)

176 115 Shorter version: How dare you bigots not lap up the crap we're laying down?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:44 PM (+CzJu)

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Sit down, shut up, and accept my tales of seething hatred for you.

Posted by: Female Force at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (l2max)

177 I don't think this is all that complicated. They thought they could keep pumping out SW movies and they would all make money like the Marvel films have.

It turns out the Marvel model doesn't work for everyone, just like it won't for Marvel at some point.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (fRU2t)

178 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (m4VKF)

LadyGhoster Busters is not close to the same vehicle as Star Wars.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (ZtIV1)

179 157 I'm hoping they remake "The Dirty Dozen" but with women. Stormy Daniels type women.
Posted by: Jolo at June 11, 2018 02:51 PM (WrMOC)

With Rosey ODonnel as the Magot?

Posted by: Disney Corp at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (NgKpN)

180 Is there one instance where these lefty goofballs make something from the ground up or is it always; appropriate a successful franchise or character and then destroy it, and then complain that haters don't like teenage black girl Tony Stark?

I get it, its all made up cartoon stuff, but can they create a character given their beliefs and make them into a household name that is not derivative or a straight out theft of a character.

I have a hard time thinking of one, .....Spawn?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (ymnmz)

181 But Solo is most certainly facing the backlash of those two movies.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (72PAC)

Someone, who I suspect was jealous of Blizzard's success, tweeted that Blizzard could put *literal* crap in a box and still make a million dollars. Mark Kern, who used to work for Blizzard, replied "Yes they could. Once."
Disney tried to put crap in the box on multiple consecutive occasions and is surprised no one is buying now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (rp9xB)

182 165 Why can't they just admit that the movies blow and stop calling everyone fucking racist? I mean, if everyone is racist, no one is.

Stop making bloated budget shitty movies.
Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (F4u7C)

Too difficult. Mush easier to try to force people to watch and love your movies by calling them racists and applying social pressure.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

183 Today is Ghostbusters Day

++++

Yeah, that's a big holiday around here. Everyone gets all misty-eyed about the time that those ghosts got their much deserved beatdown.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (pvjTE)

184 Solo was half of the right idea for a new Star Wars movie.

The half that was wrong was probably Solo himself. We didn't need that story, and it was going to suffer in comparison for it.

The half that was right was the lack of jedi and the overall distance from the core story of the saga movies.

It does feel overall different, but it's still very much in the same genre (something I don't really appreciate that much). It was trying to find new kinds of stories, but didn't really succeed because the "heists" weren't heists, they were outright action scenes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (m4VKF)

185 Disney is trying to make just enough fan service to get butts in seats and hit a new generation of kids with a 2 hour toy commercial, while checking all the SJW boxes to get love from the media.

Posted by: brak at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (VckGX)

186 I'm a TrySexual!
I'll try anything!!!

Posted by: Shep! at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (2CQCl)

187 >>>162 Next up; an all female cast in a remake of The Untouchables

Could work as a porno.

Posted by: wooga at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (Fiwz/)

188 I honestly do't get it. Who is going to watch this crap? Who goes to see the umpteenth remake of Oceans 8 with full SJW retard on display? Who pays for that?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (VpIIl)

189 I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Why would anybody want to go see the back-story for a character that they just flushed down the toilet?

Posted by: Optimizer at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (GeYg1)

190 167 Well, Paramount's example with Lady Ghostbusters says otherwise.

If preaching to the choir at $300-500 million a pop is more important than making money, then we'd be looking at Lady Ghostbusters 3 entering production this summer for a 2019 release right after Lady Ghostbusters 2 bombed out last year.
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Serious question. Who runs Paramount? I know its not Kathleen Kennedy but are you saying an analogue . . .
Posted by: simplemind at June 11, 2018 02:53 PM (PvnNw)

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Amy Paschal.

I have to imagine that she's actually worse than Kennedy.

She sounds so awful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (m4VKF)

191 I do not know if these are the same folks who graduated to racism and sexism once the new Star Wars movies began putting women and minorities in more front-and-center roles.

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Like Finn, who did next to nothing in two movies? Or Captain Phasma, who did even less? They're just there to be diversity purse puppies, as Zach from Diversity & Comics put it.

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (7HtZB)

192 If you thought that "Greedo shot first" was stupid, that counts as a red pill. Apparently?

Keep turnin' out those hits, media!

Posted by: Dr Spaceman at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (GX1oh)

193 how about a new story with strong women. one that is NOT a retell of a strong male story. where are the female writer's and directors. Wonder woman was great. the rest of you are just money grubbers

Posted by: TANSTAASFL at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (Wa5hI)

194 Evil. That's the ticket. People that passionately dislike a film because it was utter TRASH, least of all because of a few idiotic story / character choices that involved women, they are LITERALLY evil.

WTF is up with Forbes giving these idiots a forum for their stupidity ?

I actually feel bad about having responded on Twitter to the first SJW idiot, Mark Hughes. He has virtually no presence on Twitter whatsoever. I don't think a single one of his tweets had more than one reply. Yikes.

Posted by: deadrody at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (jsGbO)

195 "How racist is this statement on a scale of one to Louis Farrakhan?
Posted by: Circa"

19

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (OD2ni)

196 [186 I'm a TrySexual!
I'll try anything!!!
Posted by: Shep! at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (2CQCl)

I actually LOL'd here....

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (F4u7C)

197 Why not remake Jaws; The Revenge again?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (2LelM)

198 48 The sequel will be Leia, The Warrior Princess.There will also be an animated version and Broadway musical.
The plot isn't important. It's female and Star Wars. It can't miss.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (VpIIl)

What, no 3-D version?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (+CzJu)

199 Regarding Soylo, the blame for its mediocre performance is being assigned to marketing.

Specifically, the window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on Alden Ehrenreich's performance, according to Cowen and their media analysts.

The above can become a standard Horde template:

"The window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on performance.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (ctuyM)

200 "and these blast points...to accurate for...wait...to accurate to ever have been Imperial troops, it must have been Sandpeople after all".

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (37IEG)

201 The next Soy Wars chapter would benefit greatly from the presence of DeNiro, Oprah, and Eminem as a panspecies pansexual pangender triad, and Maxine Waters in a cameo as Jabba the Butt Slut, and I hope I get residuals for this ground breaking guaranteed money making idea...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits, What Trolls Under the Bridge Are Afraid Of.

I'm going to be in it! I'l be a black Hole!!

Posted by: Samantha Bee at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (GYX1g)

202 I don't like it when people hate an actor for their role in a film. I mean, people picked on Laura Dern in school because her dad shot John Wayne in the back in The Cowboys. Its not that actress' fault that Rose was such an obnoxious and stupidly written character. Its not lil' Anakin's fault that his part sucked and took a steaming crap all over people's memories. They didn't do that, the director and screenwriter did. The producers did. Don't blame them.

I mean yeah, the kid from Terminator 2 was so annoying and crappy I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle him, but that's how he was written and told to act. Doesn't make him a terrible person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (39g3+)

203 I'm still waiting for a remake of Air Bud.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (VpIIl)

204 It does feel overall different, but it's still very much in the same genre (something I don't really appreciate that much). It was trying to find new kinds of stories, but didn't really succeed because the "heists" weren't heists, they were outright action scenes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (m4VKF)

It would have been interesting to have seen the more comedic film that the original directors had filmed.

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (7HtZB)

205 Wow, it's like I saw all this on EVS, WCB and G and G channels this morning.

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (suO/a)

206 Wonder Woman is a perfect example of how to make a movie work, and yet it still suffered because DC had crapped all over their franchise so badly people weren't willing to give it a shot. That really was a pretty good film, it has flaws but overall I liked it. And Gal Gadot is not only wonderful to look at, but carries the role really well.

Wonder Woman did what fans wanted to see, in a way that non-fans could enjoy, with a character people liked to watch, and hey! It made money! There was almost no preaching in it beyond basic "don't be evil" platitudes, the story was pretty tight, and there was some genuine heroism in the movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (39g3+)

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If I recall, feminists hated Wonder Woman because
- it wasn't SJ-preachy enough
- Wonder Woman actually played well with the menz
- Gal Gadot was beautiful and made Trigglypuff sad in her supersized feels
- Gal Gadot is a j0000000000oooooooo......

AND YET IT MADE MONEY.

Posted by: Female Force at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (l2max)

207 >>people were really mean to Jake Lloyd. He said that role ruined his childhood.

Yes, they were. No social media, but the disapproval was loud and clear. Poor kid.
That's why Tran's and others' whines that it because she's a girl is bunk.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (W+vEI)

208 The movies suck because they are appointing these producers on the basis of things like gender.

If kathleen Kennedy were a man, she wouldn't have that job.

Affirmative action has consequences.

Doesn't mean there can't be good female producers, but if checking a quota or making a statement is the main criteria, expect shitty results. And Hollywood is obsessed with this right now.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (lKmt3)

209 They should make an all female version of Highlander.

Can't be any worse than Highlander 2.

Posted by: wooga at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (Fiwz/)

210 Solo's bad box office is also Trump's fault.

Posted by: nip at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (ECLaL)

211 This bashing, insulting, and generally despising your customers must have been taught in 1990s business schools because it is all the rage (literally) in America's corporate executive suites.

I don't think it is a good policy. I'm not sure who would think it is a good policy.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (pw+jk)

212 So we're the haters but one of their icons gets up at a fancy awards show and profanes the President of the United States? Very interesting - in an Artie Jones knockoff voice.

Posted by: rammajamma at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (AjNMO)

213 How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter? Anyone think that would put butts in the seats?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (2LelM)

214 146
People like female leads if they're pretty and have nice racks.

I'm a people. I don't care about the female leads having nice
racks and if they're pretty. I care about an interesting story, with
good actors

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2018 02:49 PM (0/+vJ)

Yep, not about the rack, but how you whistle. You know how to whistle, don't you....

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (ymnmz)

215 "19"

Farrakhan scale only goes up to juneteen.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (EyPfd)

216 Specifically, the window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on Alden Ehrenreich's performance, according to Cowen and their media analysts.

The above can become a standard Horde template:

"The window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on performance.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (ctuyM)

So, wait. Their argument is that they did not spend 'enough' money to make more money.

I'd feel pretty shifty if I was a major Disney stock holder.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (ycWCI)

217 48 The sequel will be Leia, The Warrior Princess.There will also be an animated version and Broadway musical.
The plot isn't important. It's female and Star Wars. It can't miss.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (VpIIl)

What, no 3-D version?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity

Starring Kate Upton

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (Bdeb0)

218 Dropped out of HS at fifteen
Been to Europe maybe 100 times
Retired at 60
Do what ever I want to do
Never owned a smart phone
Never saw Star Wars
I will die a happy fool

Posted by: REDACTED at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (iOL28)

219 I'm still waiting for a remake of Air Bud.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (VpIIl)

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WE ARE PAST DUE FOR AN ALL-CAT REMAKE TO COMBAT OUR SPECIEST SOCIETY!

Posted by: FELINE JUSTICE WARRIOR at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (l2max)

220 48 The sequel will be Leia, The Warrior Princess.There will also be an animated version and Broadway musical.
The plot isn't important. It's female and Star Wars. It can't miss.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 02:38 PM (VpIIl)

What, no 3-D version?

On ice.

Posted by: I've got a bad feeling about this at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (GYX1g)

221 Someone, who I suspect was jealous of Blizzard's success, tweeted that Blizzard could put *literal* crap in a box and still make a million dollars. Mark Kern, who used to work for Blizzard, replied "Yes they could. Once."
Disney tried to put crap in the box on multiple consecutive occasions and is surprised no one is buying now.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (rp9xB)

This is exactly true. Also it didn't help that the prequels were turds.

It's a Disney thing and a Lucas thing.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (+lOpA)

222 Lol!!
Keep fucking that chicken Hollywood. Bankruptcy suits you.

Hey, to speed it along how about a movie where cartoon characters just yell 'fuck trump' the whole time. Cause that would be epic.
*starts typing up script*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (2CQCl)

223 The window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on Jeb!'s performance.

Posted by: GOPe at June 11, 2018 02:59 PM (ctuyM)

224 Actually, the proper usage is "I feel BAD," not "I feel badly," unless you are talking about the weakness of your tactile sense.

Verbs like FEEL, TASTE, LOOK, SMELL, when used intransitively in description take a predicate adjective, not an adverb, just as BE does.

It smells sweet ....not sweetly.
It tastes sour....not sourly.
Pelosi looks insane ....not insanely.
Trudeau feels pretty ....not prettily.

/rant off

Posted by: Grammar Nazi banging head against wall at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (0jtPF)

225 177 I don't think this is all that complicated. They thought they could keep pumping out SW movies and they would all make money like the Marvel films have.

It turns out the Marvel model doesn't work for everyone, just like it won't for Marvel at some point.
Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (fRU2t)

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Marvel works for some specific reasons.

First, is the shared universe that took time to build. I'm far from original in saying that Marvel did universe building right, and they did.

Second is the interconnectedness of the movies without actually relying too much on each other. You can watch Captain America: Civil War without seeing any of the others and still get a general idea of what's happened before hand.

Third is the basic competence of the movies themselves. I'm far from a Marvel-fanboy, but they're well made and, bottom line, entertaining first.

VII tried to be entertaining first, and most people forgave it its flaws. Rogue One mostly fell in the same venue (although I felt like it fell flat).

VIII was a mishmash, but where it worked best wasn't exactly fun. It was about Luke rejecting Star Wars to a certain extent, which rubbed people the wrong way (the movie turns around and re-embraces it by the end).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (m4VKF)

226 Hollywood is killing itself off. Between the political sermonizing and the absolute, utter lack of creativity dovetailing with an obsession to replace said creativity with CGI it is showing itself to be bankrupt in ideas. And hopefully that bankruptcy will translate itself into the actual thing.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (FWsqf)

227 The above can become a standard Horde template:

"The window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on performance.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (ctuyM)

Yes, your problem is that you don't explain your policies well enough...

Posted by: Obama blast from the past at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (NgKpN)

228 How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter? Anyone think that would put butts in the seats?
Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (2LelM)

It would make millions and millions but I would think they would ruin any sequel they attempted.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (ZtIV1)

229 I know "Wonder Woman" is supposed to be the gold standard for "girl power films that work" but I thought it was absurdly over rated and and silly despite liking those types of films.

It's not about hating strong female leads, I still say "Aliens" is one of the best sc-fi films of all time with Sigourney Weaver being the hero.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (lKmt3)

230 Time to go pick the mushrooms out of the yard. Brown or white they're out.

Posted by: DaveA at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (FhXTo)

231 The SW well has been peed in so much people are starting to notice they're drinking pee.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (+lOpA)

232 Maybe the movie was just telling a story that people didn't feel the need to see?

The main character already had a character arc over the course of 3 movies. We didn't need to see how he became a misanthropic semi-bad dude.

Disney is really missing the big benefit of creating these cinematic universes. From an artistic perspective, the cinematic universe lets you take shortcuts with exposition and tell a new story in an interesting way. It doesn't mean you have to focus on the same handful of characters.

If you're filming a WWII movie, you don't need to tell the audience "see, these good guys are fighting this bad dude named Hitler...." we all already know why Hitler is bad and what the stakes are. Rogue 1 did this well. It was grounded in the things we already knew, but the characters we were familiar with already were not the focus of the movie.

Solo did this the the exact wrong way. If there was an interesting story that wanted to be told here in this timeframe, Ham Solo should not have been the focus. The movie should have been about Lando. Donald Glover actually did a good job with the character. Forget the pansexual crap. That didn't come across in the movie itself. He could have carried a story as the lead. And they could have had Han and Chewie as side characters that show up and leave as the plot requires.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (mk7Bj)

233 204 It does feel overall different, but it's still very much in the same genre (something I don't really appreciate that much). It was trying to find new kinds of stories, but didn't really succeed because the "heists" weren't heists, they were outright action scenes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 02:55 PM (m4VKF)

It would have been interesting to have seen the more comedic film that the original directors had filmed.
Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (7HtZB)

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I agree.

As well as a heist where no one fires a damn gun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (m4VKF)

234 189
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Why would anybody want to go see the back-story for a character that they just flushed down the toilet?

Posted by: Optimizer at June 11, 2018 02:56 PM (GeYg1)

Kennedy is having a ball trashing the male character of the franchise.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (ymnmz)

235 So I'm a racist and sexist for not seeing a movie. Got it.

Posted by: rickl at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (xjiRE)

236 >>>Wonder Woman is a perfect example of how to make a movie work, and yet it still suffered because DC had crapped all over their franchise so badly people weren't willing to give it a shot. That really was a pretty good film, it has flaws but overall I liked it. And Gal Gadot is not only wonderful to look at, but carries the role really well.

wonder woman was great until the typical studio-required CGI cartoon nightmare at the end.

Why?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (8rNrN)

237 The window for marketing wasn't long enough, nor was enough done to sell people on performance.

Posted by: This is the first time that's ever happened to me. I swear! at June 11, 2018 03:02 PM (Fiwz/)

238 BTW I still like Wonder Woman a lot and I just ignore the cartoon CGI nightmare at the end. I accept that as required and shrug it off as completely expected.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:02 PM (8rNrN)

239 How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter? Anyone think that would put butts in the seats?
Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (2LelM)

Zombie Charles Bronson stars in "Death Wish - I Got Your Martyrdom Right Here"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 03:02 PM (+CzJu)

240 Lucas continued to say the ewoks where meant to represent the Viet Cong and the Storm Troopers the American Military

Lucas is bad about retconning and reimagining his past. Its like his remake of Star Wars with new stuff added in digitally. He just makes up whole cloth what he "meant" or "intended" without the slightest bit of shame. If you listen to an interview when Star Wars came out and now, its a completely different story. Now he had this huge 9-part grand story in mind to tell, and always intended stuff like Leia to be Luke's sister and Vader's kids. Its all BS. The guy has an active fantasy life but its all in his head and about him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:02 PM (39g3+)

241 In other words, it's fine to ignore them and to not care what they want or what they say, and to deny them the myopic whitewashed world they demand.

'cept they're the ones with the monies

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (xGZ+b)

242 And De Niro just got 1 to 2 % of the population to never again spend a red cent on anything from Hollywood.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (fRU2t)

243 One of Wonder Woman's greatest achievements was, ironically, in its depiction of a male character.

It's hard to make a male character who seems to be the equal of, and a worthy romantic interest to, a goddess. But the movie really turned Steve Trevor into a Big Damn Hero.

Which in turn made Diana herself more interesting.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (8rNrN)

244 236 >>>Wonder Woman is a perfect example of how to make a movie work, and yet it still suffered because DC had crapped all over their franchise so badly people weren't willing to give it a shot. That really was a pretty good film, it has flaws but overall I liked it. And Gal Gadot is not only wonderful to look at, but carries the role really well.

wonder woman was great until the typical studio-required CGI cartoon nightmare at the end.

Why?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:01 PM (8rNrN)

============

I felt like the movie dragged pretty much the whole way through.

I just wasn't that engaged.

And the CGI ending? Because DC.

"I will destroy you!"

"You're going to have him say something other than that, right?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (m4VKF)

245 I still like Wonder Woman a lot and I just ignore the cartoon CGI nightmare at the end. I accept that as required and shrug it off as completely expected.

Yeah the ending sucked, full stop. I did not like the climactic fight with Ares at all. Weakest part of the film, but the rest is fun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (39g3+)

246 I mean yeah, the kid from Terminator 2 was so
annoying and crappy I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle
him, but that's how he was written and told to act. Doesn't make him a
terrible person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (39g3+)

I felt, and still feel the same way about the kid in The Shining. I wanted him dead. Dead. Mostly because he was annoying as all get out but mainly for the haircut.

Dead I said. And say still.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (FWsqf)

247
I'm still waiting for a remake of Air Bud.
Posted by: Marcus T

Was he the son of Old Yeller?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (IqV8l)

248 Dear hollywood. It's not your job to DICTATE to the audience what entertains them. You should find out what they're WILLING TO PAY FOR and provide something along those lines.

Pissing on me and telling me you're doing me a favor because I look hot is NOT the best business model.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:04 PM (F4u7C)

249 O/T, Sounds like the NK Summit is going well. Trump hasn't met Kim Jong Un yet, but they announced the negotiations are moving faster than expected.

Maybe it is because the North Korean negotiators stomachs are rumbling, and they want to hurry up so they can get to dinner sooner?

Maybe it is because the usual Foggy Bottom State Department set are not in charge of the negotiations? This is the Trump Effect?

Posted by: rd at June 11, 2018 03:04 PM (4dz1m)

250 Posted by: Grammar Nazi banging head against wall at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (0jtPF)

Grammar is for ranchers who have no cows.

Posted by: REDACTED at June 11, 2018 03:04 PM (iOL28)

251 I'm still waiting for a remake of Air Bud.
Posted by: Marcus T

Was he the son of Old Yeller?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

For s dog movie I liked Max

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 03:04 PM (Bdeb0)

252
Zombie Charles Bronson stars in "Death Wish - I Got Your Martyrdom Right Here"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 11, 2018 03:02 PM (+CzJu)

I'd buy THAT for a dollar.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (F4u7C)

253 The people trying to defend it by calling it "franchise fatigue" and other such nonsense are so full of shit it's coming out of their ears.

Marvel released two blockbusters within weeks of each other, and pulled it off.

The difference comes down to whether your movies are giving audiences what they want or not.

Disney: "Hey, we're just going to make a visual social justice parade and shit over all of your old heroes. You like the lecturing, right?

Marvel: "Here's a talking raccoon and his pet walking tree. They blow stuff up."

And Disney, for all of its billions, can't figure out why people are avoiding their product.

If people wanted to be preached to, they'd be in church or at a political rally.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (R9+0K)

254 Is this about a movie?

ps: Big Eyebrow Must Be Stopped!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (Ndje9)

255 Yeah, so incredibly racist...

Nobody ever had an issue with Lando -- he was a badass in the original movies. He fricking destroyed the second Death Star. The problem was when a talentless hack, looking for some credibility down at the gay bar, said Lando would screw anything that moved and was likely erect the moment he saw the Sarlacc.

FFS, sci-fi people think in terms of actual SPECIES; races are just cosmetic differences. Sci-fi invented the term "rishathra" for something that hasn't happened yet -- sex with a member of another intelligent species.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (OQc+F)

256 I felt, and still feel the same way about the kid in The Shining. I wanted him dead. Dead. Mostly because he was annoying as all get out but mainly for the haircut.

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (0/+vJ)

257 OT but the movie that can test whether one naturally leans Left or Right is A Few Good Men.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (ZtIV1)

258 Every day I wake up and find out whatever it is i'm being blamed for and called names about today. some dickhead liberal shot up a school / blame johnny, that racist gun slinging f*k ! my star wars movie sucks ass ! blame johnny that unisexual f*k !

maybe, just possibly, my idiot liberal friends, your shitty ass life and your shitty ass attitude has nothing to do with me and is entirely of your own making.

Posted by: john aita at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM (Puyuk)

259 >>>"I will destroy you!"

"You're going to have him say something other than that, right?"

...

Sooooo generic, I love it!

Posted by: The Producer in the Pitch Meeting at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (8rNrN)

260 Every guy is some useless, borderline mental case with low self esteem because he isn't really as capable as the storyline makes him out to be.
Every female character is the real strength behind the legend, or better than him because. Female. There is nothing they can't do. Except raise a traditional family, wear a swimsuit at the Miss America pageant, or actually show any quality that simply makes them beautiful.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (VpIIl)

261 259 >>>"I will destroy you!"

"You're going to have him say something other than that, right?"

...

Sooooo generic, I love it!
Posted by: The Producer in the Pitch Meeting at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (8rNrN)

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Generic things are tight!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (m4VKF)

262 You will never, ever see a more textbook case of projection than today's left.

These screeds prove it.

"I HATE you haters hating my hateful hateness."

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (jWe5r)

263 "I mean yeah, the kid from Terminator 2 was so
annoying and crappy I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle him, but that's how he was written and told to act. Doesn't make him a terrible person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor"

I agree since he was very good in American History X.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (OD2ni)

264 the SJWs tried to ruin Wonder Woman. Alamo Drafthouse tried to screen a womens' only viewing just so they could sneer at the people who told them that was a shit idea (and, by the way, a betrayal of Wonder Woman, who never disliked men).

it didn't work. I saw WW anyway. at a different cinema

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (5C+G3)

265 Were Kelly Marie Tran's 7 followers crushed when she was "driven from" social media?

Posted by: Ted K. at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (seSmy)

266 This is the crying scene after being rejected. She has screamed, cried, wailed, called her girlfriends, wailed, ate a gallon of cherry ice cream in one sitting, and wailed.

The crying will end and the wise mentor will come in and clean house on the franchise and soon some more holes in Mr. Mouse's Everglades will be filled. The admission of fault will be made. "Mistakes were made, and we took care of them. Rocco did. I didn't say that. And he's not an employee, just a contracted troubleshooter. So to speak."
And then the rebooting will begin.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (hLRSq)

267 Solo...shot....first.

And trust me the audience was okay with that back in 1977 because everyone in the theater recognized Gredo was a scum sucking pig who's plan consisted only of "kill Solo, enjoy doing it, collect bounty".

Lucas understood that before he got rich.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (37IEG)

268 Well Disney always has Johnny Depp to bail them out.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (2LelM)

269 Meh. Star Wars has always been a children's movie. I saw the original when I was 13 years old and never saw another one because, well, I grew up and find children's movies to be for children.

You'd have to actually pay me (a lot of money) to sit through any of the past Star Wars movies.

Posted by: Pudding Puff at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (hHiYj)

270 I always thought the Marines from Aliens would wipe out the Empire, Republic, Alliance, Hutts, Ewoks and anything else in the Lucas verse.

Once they where allowed to shoot those Marines tore s**t up. If the original colonists had been armed the movie is about a picnic on top of Alien carapaces.

Another plug for the Second Amendment.

Posted by: Big V at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (ZvLtE)

271 I mean yeah, the kid from Terminator 2 was so
annoying and crappy I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle
him, but that's how he was written and told to act. Doesn't make him a
terrible person.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 02:57 PM (39g3+)

Coincidentally he was a terrible person in real life,

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (ZtIV1)

272 very small pet peeve.

I don't get the two guys who come into these Soylo threads and trash them by saying "this isn't politics" or "I don't care."

This IS politics. The fact that you don't care about the movie is irrelevant. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MOVIE, EITHER. I have seen zero of these in theaters and have not see the last two at all, even on PPV.

It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (8rNrN)

273 >>>Replacement director Ron Howard says he "feels badly" about Soylo's low box office returns.

Heeyyyyy. You caused Star Wars to jump the shark. Nice going.

Posted by: The Fonz at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (/qEW2)

274 I was bored stiff by Wonder Woman, which occupies a genre I call: "Shit, I saw because I was in the same room when my wife watched it." Added Thor: Ragnorak to that list this weekend. The whole time I just kept wondering why this movie existed.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (LgxQn)

275 Solo...shot....first.

Who...Gives...a Damn.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Bdeb0)

276 TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

Time to buy a sammich. Or a hundred.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Boy/L)

277 "Lucas continued to say the ewoks where meant to represent the Viet Cong and the Storm Troopers the American Military "

So Lucas thinks the Viet Cong were cannibals?

(OK, so the Ewoks weren't technically cannibal. But they were going to roast and eat the heroes, who were mostly human, and sci-fi hasn't come up with a term for "eats other sophonts" so cannibal will have to do.)

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (OQc+F)

278 They are shit movies and the SJW and girl power characters make them even worse.

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (LiyEm)

279 "Was he the son of Old Yeller?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr."

Alright, who cried when Ole Yeller died?

Posted by: John Winger at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (OD2ni)

280 I thought the Thor movie was pretty fun.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (Boy/L)

281 >>OT but the movie that can test whether one naturally leans Left or Right is A Few Good Men.

Or "The Last Supper"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (W+vEI)

282 In the old Star Wars timeline that Disney scrapped, John Jackson Miller wrote a lot of novels and comics with female leads, and they were good stories. That's the difference. Having a woman or POC as a character is a poor substitute for story.

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (7HtZB)

283 Mmmm, tasty hate sandwiches.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (ycWCI)

284 "And De Niro just got 1 to 2 % of the population to never again spend a red cent on anything from Hollywood."

In other words...a good day for America.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (EyPfd)

285 Heeyyyyy. You caused Star Wars to jump the shark. Nice going.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (OD2ni)

286 272 very small pet peeve.

I don't get the two guys who come into these Soylo threads and trash them by saying "this isn't politics" or "I don't care."

This IS politics. The fact that you don't care about the movie is irrelevant. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MOVIE, EITHER. I have seen zero of these in theaters and have not see the last two at all, even on PPV.

It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (8rNrN)

==============

Disney can't let Kathleen Kennedy run the SJW battleship from the Star Wars bridge anymore (apparently...fingers crossed).

That will be a lesson for Disney and whoever takes over afterwards.

All because she shit all over the fans after TLJ.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (m4VKF)

287 TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

Time to buy a sammich. Or a hundred.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Boy/L)

Because it's dudes blow dudes month, or something.....the LGBTBBQ party was butthurt.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (F4u7C)

288 265 Were Kelly Marie Tran's 7 followers crushed when she was "driven from" social media?
Posted by: Ted K. at June 11, 2018 03:07 PM (seSmy)

No.

Only when she fell on top of them.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (WDCYi)

289 >>>Lucas understood that before he got rich.

Red Letter Media had a similar point about Spielberg and the Indian Jones 4 movie, and how Indy only kills, Maybe (we don't know if he's dead) ONE GUY in Indy 4.

he notes that as these guys got old and got grandchildren, everything had to be soft and friendly for five year olds.

They had to make everyting "respectable."

Respectable is a great way to live your life but it's no damn fun in escapist entertainment.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (8rNrN)

290 You're going to have him say something other than that, right?

That's a big part of the analysis this guy does of DC vs Marvel action sequences and why DC can't get it right. He has a bunch of other things that are all dead on, but the dialog and characterization is a major part:

https://youtu.be/3p-lyt78cyA

He really does a good job explaining how people in his generation have been so immersed in amazing, outrageous incredible stuff that it has to be more than just jaw dropping to work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:10 PM (39g3+)

291 "Well Disney always has Johnny Depp to bail them out."

The last Pirates movie didn't do too well, and neither did the last Tim Burton film.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:10 PM (OQc+F)

292 Lucas understood that before he got rich.

I will bet several gazillion dollars that Lucas did not write that scene.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:10 PM (Boy/L)

293 Once they where allowed to shoot those Marines tore s**t up.

Obvious Viet Nam parable was obvious.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 03:10 PM (5C+G3)

294 282 In the old Star Wars timeline that Disney scrapped, John Jackson Miller wrote a lot of novels and comics with female leads, and they were good stories. That's the difference. Having a woman or POC as a character is a poor substitute for story.
Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (7HtZB)

============

Coco is a movie filled with Mexicans.

And not once do any of them talk about building walls, immigrating, or America at all.

It's just a nice celebration of Mexican culture with a heart warming story about family on top.

Do more of that, Hollywood.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:11 PM (m4VKF)

295 Inre Lucas.

Yeah, BS artist. I think in 1978, 20th Century Fox came up to him and said "damn, George...how about a follow up? Got anything?" And like any writer in that situation...he bullshitted. "Sure I do! I got lots."

That whole 9 episode thing? Malarkey. And not the good kind who killed Nazis.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 11, 2018 03:11 PM (tVWQB)

296 DC animated movies > DC live action movies

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:11 PM (7HtZB)

297 (OK, so the Ewoks weren't technically cannibal. But they were going to roast and eat the heroes, who were mostly human, and sci-fi hasn't come up with a term for "eats other sophonts" so cannibal will have to do.)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (OQc+F)

Never understood the empty helmets, the stick tapping on the armor killing the bad guys and our heroes laughing at the roast.

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 11, 2018 03:11 PM (suO/a)

298 Lucas understood that before he got rich.
Posted by: Damnedyankee

___________

Lucas really is like the biggest money whore on the planet despite his constant Leftist platitudes.

I know an estate attorney, and he was telling me Lucas moved to Nevada before selling LucasArts/Star Wars to Disney to avoid the California income tax.

He also moved the deal up faster to avoid the new Obama NIIT tax that was kicking in at the first of the year to avoid an additional 3.8%.

All things normal people would do, but funny how liberals go to the ends of the Earth not to experience what they inflict on people.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 03:11 PM (lKmt3)

299 I can't wait to see what they did to the next Jurassic Park. June 22. It should be frightening, but not in the way they want it to be.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (VpIIl)

300 276
TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

Time to buy a sammich. Or a hundred.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Boy/L)

Not good enough.
He must be fired.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (ymnmz)

301 "Well Disney always has Johnny Depp to bail them out."

The last Pirates movie didn't do too well, and neither did the last Tim Burton film.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:10 PM (OQc+F)

Largely because Depp is an out of control lunatic that if you don't have him in your dead pool, you should.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (F4u7C)

302 Disney sucks, and Mickey can blow me.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (wtvvX)

303 BTW DC Comics is joining the SJW bandwagon AFTER SJW shit destroyed Marvel.

They just hired -- ta da! -- Gamergate figure Zoe Quinn to write an entire series for their Vertigo imprint.

Zoe Quinn has zero experience in the industry, has shown (per her twitter feed) zero interest in comics, and has zero accomplishments even in her alleged metier of video game design.

Almost all the other new Vertigo titles are SJW crap too.

They're explicitly branded as "socially conscious."

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (8rNrN)

304 > There is no evidence for this "harassing female actors and artists for existing."

Look at the Leia character in the original trilogy. Strong, independent woman. Took no shit off anyone. Could fire a blaster as good well as Han or Chewie (and way better than any of the stormtroopers). Not at all a Suzy Homemaker type.

The fans loved (and still love) that character.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (GXOTw)

305 One good thing about all this mess is I finally understand what GamerGate was all about.

Sometimes you have to spell things out for me.

Thnks Disney. And Ghostbusters.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (+lOpA)

306 It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (8rNrN)

Like I said, this is a battle in the culture wars upstream of our political wars and we are watching the corpses floating down and gauging how things are going.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (hLRSq)

307 Sci-fi invented the term "rishathra" for something that hasn't happened yet -- sex with a member of another intelligent species.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:05 PM

* Spock eyebrow *

Posted by: J. Tiberius Kirk at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (ctuyM)

308 It turns out the Marvel model doesn't work for everyone, just like it won't for Marvel at some point.
Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (fRU2t)

My guess is after Infinity War, Part 2. At this point people are watching because, damn it, we've already committed so much time to the damn franchise.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (Tnhbr)

309 TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

Time to buy a sammich. Or a hundred.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Boy/L)

Because it's dudes blow dudes month, or something.....the LGBTBBQ party was butthurt.
Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (F4u7C)

You know, every time you think you've just heard what's gotta be the stupidest news of your entire life, our culture just goes ahead and belches up something even more ridiculous.

Posted by: filbert at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (953wK)

310 41 and we enraged reactionaries are too busy working to restore the Stuarts to give a crap about Star Wars.

Hand held over water glass for the loyal toast.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (rwVFm)

311 299 I can't wait to see what they did to the next Jurassic Park. June 22. It should be frightening, but not in the way they want it to be.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (VpIIl)

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Looks kinda boring.

I liked the early marketing that was all about the island exploding.

That was good, clean, schlocky fun.

Everything that happens after that looks tiresome.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (m4VKF)

312 >>>296 DC animated movies > DC live action movies

not any more, alas! I don't watch them, but I watch Grace Randolph's reviews. She's a big DC fangirl, but she's trashing almost all the DC animated movies of the past 3 years or so (maybe with one or two exceptions).

They've really fallen down in quality. (Per her reviews, which I tend to trust.)

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (8rNrN)

313 Coco is a movie filled with Mexicans.

And not once do any of them talk about building walls, immigrating, or America at all.

It's just a nice celebration of Mexican culture with a heart warming story about family on top.

Do more of that, Hollywood.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:11 PM (m4VKF)

It was a movie designed to show you that Mexicans are awesome, fun loving people that you should be HAPPY are infiltrating your country and taking over.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (F4u7C)

314 You want to make a film that will get guys back into theaters - put 'The Five Fingers' on screen and watch the money flow in. Lots of excellent stories out their just begging for a talented script writer and producer.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (2LelM)

315 275
Solo...shot....first.

Who...Gives...a Damn.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Bdeb0)

the people who remade the scene.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (37IEG)

316 Zoe Quinn has zero experience in the industry, has shown (per her twitter feed) zero interest in comics, and has zero accomplishments even in her alleged metier of video game design.

Almost all the other new Vertigo titles are SJW crap too.

They're explicitly branded as "socially conscious."

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (8rNrN)

You have to see Professor's Tosspott take on gamergate (you tube channel voxis productions)

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (suO/a)

317 The van Sciver video is a hoot. A little less than 5 minutes in, he does an impromptu caricature of the article's author and uses it to narrate the rest of his analysis.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (/qEW2)

318 Well, the problem is it isn't "escapist" entertainment anymore. It's the same liberal crap they media beats us over the head with every day- long version.
Who needs that? I would rather punch myself in the face.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

319 > Zoe Quinn has zero experience in the industry, has shown (per her twitter feed) zero interest in comics, and has zero accomplishments even in her alleged metier of video game design.

As far as I know, her only real talents are showing off her pudgy body in low-grade nude photos and hoovering off writers for gaming sites.

She's basically a marginally more attractive, marginally less sane Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (GXOTw)

320 I thought the Thor movie was pretty fun.

It was fun, but not really a Thor story. It was a space road movie. A lot of it made no damn sense but was funny so you didn't care so much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (39g3+)

321 "There is a difference between panning a movie or even passionately discussing a movie you disliked, and verbally assaulting an artist over that movie...."

I heard an obnoxious millennial (but I repeat myself) complaining on her cellphone how so-and-so would "verbally assault" people.

Apparently while I slept and grew a long beard the phrase "verbal assault" crept into everyday speech: to self-validate the concept that your speech (and your impermissible thought) is violence.

The concept has of course been around awhile now, but I think its only recent that this insidious turn of phrase has become an accepted thing.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (koNhm)

322 308 It turns out the Marvel model doesn't work for everyone, just like it won't for Marvel at some point.
Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 02:54 PM (fRU2t)

My guess is after Infinity War, Part 2. At this point people are watching because, damn it, we've already committed so much time to the damn franchise.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (Tnhbr)

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As long as the movies are competently entertaining, I imagine the franchise continuing for a while.

Maybe it won't be the height of popular culture anymore, but it'll keep going.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (m4VKF)

323 300 Not good enough.
He must be fired.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (ymnmz)

And relieved of his fortune. And his residence.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (WDCYi)

324 "Largely because Depp is an out of control lunatic that if you don't have him in your dead pool, you should."

If Johnny Depp is ever in a Deadpool movie, I hope Wade Wilson slices him to ribbons.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (OQc+F)

325 We are all racist, sexist, panophobes now.

Posted by: ShainS at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (nUH7O)

326 ...This IS politics. The fact that you don't care about
the movie is irrelevant. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MOVIE, EITHER. I have
seen zero of these in theaters and have not see the last two at all,
even on PPV.

It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (8rNrN)

This is one of my biggest reasons for hating the Left because they make everything political. They intrude into every aspect of life and ruin it because they are authoritarian control freaks masquerading as fair-minded, concerned little liberals who just want everyone to be nice to each other.

And they'll use concentration camps to make their point if we don't stop them.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (FWsqf)

327 Wasn't Lando Calrissian was womanizer who wouldn't hesitate to smack a bitch up if she got out of line? Or am I thinking of the real-life actor?

Posted by: Fritz at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (2Mnv1)

328 So you want to make movies about pansexual space pilots, dykes, and Social Justice Warriors. Fine, make them. You're free to do whatever you want, waste as much money as you can. Just don't be surprised that none of us pay to watch it.

Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (pM95H)

329 320 I thought the Thor movie was pretty fun.

It was fun, but not really a Thor story. It was a space road movie. A lot of it made no damn sense but was funny so you didn't care so much.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:14 PM (39g3+)

I liked the original Thor because it was done by Kenneth goddamn Branagh.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (WDCYi)

330 These assholes ruin everything they touch. Way to ruin the best trilogy ever you fuckwits.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (89T5c)

331 I quote Eric Hoffer, again, because relevant to all SJW/Lib/Left fails:

"There are many who find a good alibi far more attractive than an achievement. For an achievement does not settle anything permanently. We still have to prove our worth anew each day: we have to prove that we are as good today as we were yesterday. But when we have a valid alibi for not achieving anything we are fixed, so to speak, for life. Moreover, when we have an alibi for not writing a book, painting a picture, and so on, we have an alibi for not writing the greatest book and not painting the greatest picture. Small wonder that the effort expended and the punishment endured in obtaining a good alibi often exceed the effort and grief requisite for the attainment of a most marked achievement. "

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (wszSn)

332
201 I'm going to be in it! I'l be a black Hole!!

Posted by: Samantha Bee

sounds like whitewashing to me

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (NmR1a)

333 Largely because Depp is an out of control lunatic that if you don't have him in your dead pool, you should.
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I still waiting for the third hanging suicide to fall. Depp might be it.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (2LelM)

334 OT but the movie that can test whether one naturally leans Left or Right is A Few Good Men.

Meh, Jessup is correct that standing on the wall isn't pretty or pleasant, but he was still a corrupt, narcissistic jackass who needed to be taken down.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:16 PM (Tnhbr)

335 It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (8rNrN)

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THIS.

I wish they'd make a movie about THIS.

Just make sure the main antagonist is a slightly-overweight white male, preferably from a southern-central state.

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2018 03:16 PM (l2max)

336 >>>It was fun, but not really a Thor story. It was a space road movie. A lot of it made no damn sense but was funny so you didn't care so much.

I liked it but it was a straight-up comedy. Seemed a bit off, and I think it's going to be hard to take Thor seriously going forward. (Well, to be honest, it was already hard.)

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:16 PM (8rNrN)

337 311
299 I can't wait to see what they did to the next Jurassic Park. June
22. It should be frightening, but not in the way they want it to be.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (VpIIl)

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Looks kinda boring.

I liked the early marketing that was all about the island exploding.

That was good, clean, schlocky fun.

Everything that happens after that looks tiresome.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:13 PM (m4VKF)

Is the corporation evil. Cause if they make the corporation evil that would really be a surprise.

Please please please bring back Vince Vaugh and have him eaten by Blue.

Hey that's funny that I remember the name of Quills dinosaur, but not Solo's girlfriend.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:16 PM (ymnmz)

338 TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

Time to buy a sammich. Or a hundred.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Boy/L)

Ban him from Twitter.

Posted by: I've got a bad feeling about this at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (GYX1g)

339 >>>Meh, Jessup is correct that standing on the wall isn't pretty or pleasant, but he was still a corrupt, narcissistic jackass who needed to be taken down.

he did break the code he claimed he lived his life by.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (8rNrN)

340 336 >>>It was fun, but not really a Thor story. It was a space road movie. A lot of it made no damn sense but was funny so you didn't care so much.

I liked it but it was a straight-up comedy. Seemed a bit off, and I think it's going to be hard to take Thor seriously going forward. (Well, to be honest, it was already hard.)
Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:16 PM (8rNrN)

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A decent way to spend about 100 minutes of your time without any ill side effects afterwards.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (SvWX4)

341 Sci-fi invented the term "rishathra" for something that hasn't happened yet -- sex with a member of another intelligent species.

Imzadi.

Posted by: William Riker at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (rwVFm)

342 I still waiting for the third hanging suicide to fall. Depp might be it.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (2LelM)

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Has anyone spoken to me in the last 18-20 hours?

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (l2max)

343 246 I felt, and still feel the same way about the kid in The Shining. I wanted him dead. Dead. Mostly because he was annoying as all get out but mainly for the haircut.

Dead I said. And say still.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:03 PM (FWsqf)

Are you talking about the kid from the Kubric film or the one from the made-for-TV remake? While I didn't have a problem with the former, I couldn't stand the latter.
You could actually *hear* his snot.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (NL6wI)

344 when historians look back at this age, other than noting that it was a stupid time to be alive, they will go with that old adage, 'get woke, go broke'

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (RKQ/v)

345 The Commies blamed wreckers and sabatoures for there failed plans.

The modern leftist blames sexists and racists.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (TN1P5)

346 The Empire Strikes Back was previously the lowest-grossing Star Wars movie, but bear in mind, we're talking about 1980 dollars there, not adjusted for inflation.

However it was arguably the best SW movie of them all.

Posted by: Jim H at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (fN+Wl)

347 > Or am I thinking of the real-life actor?

https://mediaanarchist.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/colt45web.jpg

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:18 PM (GXOTw)

348 >>>317 The van Sciver video is a hoot. A little less than 5 minutes in, he does an impromptu caricature of the article's author and uses it to narrate the rest of his analysis.

yeah I Like that. They're obviously targeting Van Sciver without naming him, so turnabout is fair play.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:18 PM (8rNrN)

349 260 ...Every female character is the real strength behind the legend, or better than him because. Female. There is nothing they can't do. Except raise a traditional family, wear a swimsuit at the Miss America pageant, or actually show any quality that simply makes them beautiful.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 11, 2018 03:06 PM (VpIIl)

Well, I can pee my name in the snow HANDS FREE, Mister Man! How's that for a beautiful quality?

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 11, 2018 03:18 PM (yACxx)

350 346 The Empire Strikes Back was previously the lowest-grossing Star Wars movie, but bear in mind, we're talking about 1980 dollars there, not adjusted for inflation.

However it was arguably the best SW movie of them all.
Posted by: Jim H at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (fN+Wl)

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"We could have made $10 million more if Han had survived."
-George Lucas, 1981, paraphrased

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:18 PM (SvWX4)

351 I thought the Thor movie was pretty fun.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:09 PM (Boy/L)

Thor 3 was basically a giant 80s side scroller turned into a movie.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:18 PM (Tnhbr)

352 It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

This is something that kind of frustrates me here. You'll take an event or person's statement to launch off to a point you want to make, say about culture or history of psychology of modern people, and most of the commenters only see the launching point, not what you're trying to say.

I'm guilty of that at times, too. Its like you make a great point and nobody even wants to talk about it. Everyone says they love ace (and we do) but its like you come to a party and everyone loves the snacks you brought but ignores you standing in the corner.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (39g3+)

353 Dear Mr. Mouse:

As businessman to businessman - the dogs do not like the dog food.

Your,
Mikey NTH

PS: Good Luck with that Everglades project.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (hLRSq)

354 I jokingly asked if this thread was about a movie. But it isn't, of course. It's about lefties injecting their stupid politics into EVERYTHING.

But I wasn't joking about stopping the Canadian Menace known as Big Eyebrow.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (Ndje9)

355 VIII was a mishmash, but where it worked best wasn't
exactly fun. It was about Luke rejecting Star Wars to a certain extent,
which rubbed people the wrong way (the movie turns around and
re-embraces it by the end).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:00 PM (m4VKF)

It wasn't just that it was implausible, it was that it was so badly set up.
We're shown the flashback of Luke's attempt to kill hid nephew in his sleep three times, but we're merely *told* that Luke had a bad dream about Ben becoming some galaxy threatening evil. Which doesn't work. We needed to have seen what Luke saw, particularly given the fact that we know that Luke knows all force visions are merely possible futures.
Certainly nothing that happened in 7 or 8 rose to the level of 'kill him in his sleep.'

Posted by: Methos at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (XQvuQ)

356 >>>331 I quote Eric Hoffer, again, because relevant to all SJW/Lib/Left fails:

"There are many who find a good alibi far more attractive than an achievement. For an achievement does not settle anything permanently. We still have to prove our worth anew each day: we have to prove that we are as good today as we were yesterday. But when we have a valid alibi for not achieving anything we are fixed, so to speak, for life. Moreover, when we have an alibi for not writing a book, painting a picture, and so on, we have an alibi for not writing the greatest book and not painting the greatest picture. Small wonder that the effort expended and the punishment endured in obtaining a good alibi often exceed the effort and grief requisite for the attainment of a most marked achievement. "

...

great quote.

I proposed reading True Believer for the abortive AoS Book Club. Gotta get round to doing that one of these days. Every quote I see from it is gold.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (8rNrN)

357 343 246 I felt, and still feel the same way about the kid in The Shining. I wanted him dead. Dead. Mostly because he was annoying as all get out but mainly for the haircut.
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I always felt the same about the kid in The Yearling. What a whiny little bitch.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (2LelM)

358 >>>342 I still waiting for the third hanging suicide to fall. Depp might be it.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (2LelM)

Ouch. But possible. My guess, should this come to pass, would be OD where they can't tell if it was deliberate or accidental.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:20 PM (8rNrN)

359 My boys, 3 and 6, got to FaceTime their Grandma. They sang her You Are My Sunshine.

She looking better than she has been described.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 11, 2018 03:20 PM (gTYjx)

360 "Is the corporation evil. Cause if they make the corporation evil that would really be a surprise."

The writers work for Hollywood and you are surprised that the corporations they write about are evil?

Hello, Hollywood here.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:20 PM (hLRSq)

361 The Forbes article is an exercise similar to kafkatrapping. He doesn't give an actual example, let alone any sort of sampling or links, to what people are saying who dislike the Disney SW films. He just engages in a lot of labeling and name calling. The implication of course is that if you criticize any of the films, you run the risk of being guilty of the list of thoughtcrimes he's enumerated. It's an exercise in preemptively deterring people from criticizing these films.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (/qEW2)

362 328 So you want to make movies about pansexual space pilots, dykes, and Social Justice Warriors. Fine, make them. You're free to do whatever you want, waste as much money as you can. Just don't be surprised that none of us pay to watch it.
Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (pM95H)

This.

I cannot understand how insulting your audience is going to help your bottom line, and yet, not just the movie makers but also restaurants, bars, etc., just keep whacking that donkey.

If you make crap and call it art, it is still crap, and only fools and idiots will believe you. The rest of us can do without the smug smarmy virtue signalling and absolutely can do without paying to see it.

IOW, Hollywood, which hasn't had a new idea in years, can go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (7UW64)

363 Still can't remember Solo's "girlfriend's" name.
Michelle.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (Evws/)

364 > Charlie Sheen: Has anyone spoken to me in the last 18-20 hours?

If it's Charlie Sheen, it'll be a failed autoerotic asphyxiation, not a genuine suicide attempt.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (GXOTw)

365 357
343 246 I felt, and still feel the same way about the kid in The
Shining. I wanted him dead. Dead. Mostly because he was annoying as all
get out but mainly for the haircut.

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I always felt the same about the kid in The Yearling. What a whiny little bitch.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (2LelM)

Take a number buddy.

Posted by: Kid from Shane at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (ymnmz)

366 304 Look at the Leia character in the original trilogy. Strong, independent woman. Took no shit off anyone. Could fire a blaster as good well as Han or Chewie (and way better than any of the stormtroopers). Not at all a Suzy Homemaker type.

The fans loved (and still love) that character.

yeah, but that's mostly because of how she jiggled after crawling out of the trash masher.

i'd denounce myself, but i was a teenage boy at the time...

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (xGZ+b)

367

EM BUTTER-SCOTCH PUDDIN FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (mPeei)

368 Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (RKQ/v)

Your nic reminds me of something I witnessed this weekend. We went into a fast food restaurant and there was a large dude with headphones on singing rather loudly "Money for Nothing" but only managed to repeat "we gotta move these refrigerators....we gotta move these color TV's" every 30 seconds or so.

Not sure if he actually had anything playing in the head phones.....

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (F4u7C)

369 he did break the code he claimed he lived his life by.
Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (8rNrN)

That's just it. I have no doubt that entire chain of command was toxic and rotten.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (Tnhbr)

370 As much as I like Norse Myth, I've always thought Thor was a pretty dumb idea as a superhero. Ragnorak's humor just felt forced to me. I didn't laugh much. It tried to be in the same category as Guardians and failed to be anywhere near that standard. There's no suspense or anything; pretty paint by the numbers. Also, while were talking about diversity, as much as I like Idris Elba (and I do, a lot), a black dude as a Norse god doesn't make a lot of sense in general (maybe as Surt it might nake sense?); nor does an ethnic Valkerie.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (LgxQn)

371 I've always thought if you don't care about a thread topic, come back later. Making snarky comments about how disinterested you are seems insulting to the host.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (fRU2t)

372 363
Still can't remember Solo's "girlfriend's" name.
Michelle.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (Evws/)

Nooo that's not it.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:22 PM (ymnmz)

373 I still waiting for the third hanging suicide to fall. Depp might be it.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:15 PM (2LelM)

Ouch. But possible. My guess, should this come to pass, would be OD where they can't tell if it was deliberate or accidental.
Posted by: ace

Charlie Sheen. The STDs have taken their toll.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2018 03:22 PM (9uM86)

374 Wasn't Lando Calrissian was womanizer who wouldn't hesitate to smack a bitch up if she got out of line? Or am I thinking of the real-life actor?

There really never was much air between Billy Dee Williams and the characters he played. But he was always fun to watch.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:22 PM (39g3+)

375 TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

Time to buy a sammich. Or a hundred.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Boy/L)

Remember comrades, lefties are all about tolerance and being open minded

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 11, 2018 03:22 PM (SiINZ)

376 "Star Wars is way ahead of its misbehaving fans."

Really?

I aim to misbehave.

Posted by: Scott at June 11, 2018 03:23 PM (kmvkg)

377 The Ocean's 8 plot was thought up by the same people who brought us Lady Ghostbuster's, I'm sure of it. Sandra Bullock must have been supplied with soy lattes while she was in solitary thinking up this brillant plan.

Posted by: sinalco at June 11, 2018 03:23 PM (yODqO)

378 Only a cabal of dimwitted leftists could turn one of the most profitable brands in the history of cinema into a loss leader, all in the name of JusticeYouGuys!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 03:23 PM (AURKQ)

379 If you "feel badly" you should quit touching everything until you get your "feel" up specifications.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 11, 2018 03:23 PM (pw+jk)

380 355
It wasn't just that it was implausible, it was that it was so badly set up.
We're shown the flashback of Luke's attempt to kill hid nephew in his sleep three times, but we're merely *told* that Luke had a bad dream about Ben becoming some galaxy threatening evil. Which doesn't work. We needed to have seen what Luke saw, particularly given the fact that we know that Luke knows all force visions are merely possible futures.
Certainly nothing that happened in 7 or 8 rose to the level of 'kill him in his sleep.'
Posted by: Methos at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (XQvuQ)

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Counterpoint that I haven't really thought through very deeply:

When you show something in a movie, audiences trust it more than dialogue. I remember this coming up in regards to Branagh's adaptation of Hamlet because we see Claudius pouring the poison into Hamlet the Elder's ear. After that, there was no doubt in the audience's mind about the veracity of the ghost's claims or even the reality of the ghost.

Taking this back to that scene in TLJ:

If we had seen the vision, we would automatically believe that it was inevitable, and the point of that scene is that it wasn't inevitable. Luke's doubt was what drove him to the attempt on Ben's life. Seeing the possible future would bias the audience towards Luke's original plan of action instead of the revised one (as it stands, there's no visual bias in the scene).

With the flashforward, we'd know that Ben's rise was inevitable, no matter what anyone else says. Without it, we don't know, it falls back down to individual character choices. Ben/Kylo still has choices on how to proceed.

Again, half-thought out, but that's kind of my point, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:23 PM (SvWX4)

381 It's not about the movies. It's about Peak SJW and the tipping point where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:08 PM (8rNrN)

Exactly. Same with GamerGate. You don't have to be interested in a particular hobby to appreciate when the SJWs shoot themselves in the foot and lose part of their unquestioning voting base because they just *can't not* try to control everyone and everything around them (while creating pale imitations of what got people interested in the hobby and demanding those shadows be worshiped whole-heartedly).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 03:24 PM (rp9xB)

382 I thought Zoe Quinn was transgender or was that someone else?

Posted by: blaster at June 11, 2018 03:24 PM (1hy/q)

383 1 I quote Eric Hoffer...

Very good.

Posted by: t-bird at June 11, 2018 03:24 PM (KCruE)

384 > He doesn't give an actual example, let alone any sort of sampling or links, to what people are saying who dislike the Disney SW films.

Yeah, not even the bullshit "gotcha journalism" of trolling through YouTube comments and picking out the most fucktarded ones.

Which may work on people who aren't familiar with YouTube comments, but not those who understand that YouTube comments contain examples of fucktards saying any fucktarded thing you can imagine, along with any one you couldn't imagine.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:24 PM (GXOTw)

385 They just hired -- ta da! -- Gamergate figure Zoe Quinn to write an entire series for their Vertigo imprint.

Zoe Quinn has zero experience in the industry, has shown (per her
twitter feed) zero interest in comics, and has zero accomplishments even
in her alleged metier of video game design.

Almost all the other new Vertigo titles are SJW crap too.

They're explicitly branded as "socially conscious."

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (8rNrN)

Bullshit. Seriously? Freaking Depression Quest Zoe Quinn?

Holy cow do I feel bad for fans of western comics.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 11, 2018 03:24 PM (6JL3d)

386 as much as I like Idris Elba (and I do, a lot), a black dude as a Norse god doesn't make a lot of sense in general (maybe as Surt it might nake sense?); nor does an ethnic Valkerie.

Yeah you'd think at least one Norse guy would have said "wow, Heimdall is really dark!" and that would come up in the myths. It was dumb but they had a nearly all-cracker cast so they felt the need to inject some darkness into the film.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:25 PM (39g3+)

387 371 I've always thought if you don't care about a thread topic, come back later. Making snarky comments about how disinterested you are seems insulting to the host.
Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (fRU2t)

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I haven't seen them in a while, but the movie thread was plagued by some trolls who would do just that.

"I hate movies and you should too."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:25 PM (SvWX4)

388 357 343 246 I felt, and still feel the same way about the kid in The Shining. I wanted him dead. Dead. Mostly because he was annoying as all get out but mainly for the haircut.
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I always felt the same about the kid in The Yearling. What a whiny little bitch.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:19 PM (2LelM)

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See Indy!!?! Strong wood! Strong wood, Indy!

Posted by: Short Long at June 11, 2018 03:25 PM (l2max)

389 351 Thor 3 was basically a giant 80s side scroller turned into a movie.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:18 PM (Tnhbr)

I tend to associate side scrollers/belt-scrollers more with the early 90s...

Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 03:25 PM (WDCYi)

390 Please please please bring back Vince Vaugh and have him eaten by Blue.

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Blue died in the first "Old School."

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (7HtZB)

391 What is the old saying about never meet your heroes?

I think part of the problem with entertainment these days is we give to much time to the entertainers.

OK you can catch a sportsball or you played a character on a show I like. Why should I care who you think should be representing me and my interests.

The more I learn about the vast majority of the entertainment industry the less I want them to have my money.

Posted by: Big V at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (ZvLtE)

392 They left that part out where Lando was racing Han and Lando blew a seal.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (vDqXW)

393 "Ethan Van Sciver discusses Disney weaponizing the media against its actual customers in this video. And this one. I enjoyed his personal attack on effete soibois."
EVS is determined to make more money off the Star Wars franchise than Disney itself. Dude makes 6 hours of videos about it per day.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (UBzPO)

394 I thought Zoe Quinn was transgender or was that someone else?

Pretty sure Zoe is a dude, yeah.

And put me down for Depp OD as well, he looks like 19 miles of hell.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (39g3+)

395 Please please please bring back Vince Vaugh and have him eaten by Blue.

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Blue died in the first "Old School."
Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (7HtZB)

You missed where it was a zombie movie......

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:26 PM (F4u7C)

396 Are you talking about the kid from the Kubric film
or the one from the made-for-TV remake? While I didn't have a problem
with the former, I couldn't stand the latter.

You could actually *hear* his snot.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (NL6wI)

The Kubrik one. Never saw the remake. And I mean no offense but there must be something fundamentally wrong with you if you didn't have a problem with the kid in the original. Fundamentally wrong. And because of that I don't like you either. As a matter of fact I don't like anyone who likes the kid in the original Shining. Anyone.

Akshully, I lied. I did mean to give offense. It's like a litmus test for me.

Just kidding.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (FWsqf)

397 "382 I thought Zoe Quinn was transgender or was that someone else?
Posted by: blaster"

Zoey Tur is trasgeneder and threatened to beat up Little Ben Shapiro for calling him a dude. The person is Katy Tur's mom/dad/?

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (OD2ni)

398 "this isn't politics" or "I don't care."
some consider they less they know about pop culture to be a badge of honor. on any conservative site, in the comments about anything to do with pop culture

Posted by: brak at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (VckGX)

399 My boys, 3 and 6, got to FaceTime their Grandma. They sang her You Are My Sunshine.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 11, 2018 03:20 PM (gTYjx)

Dang allergies. That's so lovely.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (MX7xj)

400 Nooo that's not it.
Moochelle?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (Evws/)

401 Leftywood still makes movies? Who knew

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (Lg2h/)

402 Every quote I see from it is gold.

Posted by: ace
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Agreed:
http://www.phnet.fi/public/mamaa1/hoffer.htm

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (TSLKA)

403 BTW DC Comics is joining the SJW bandwagon AFTER SJW shit destroyed Marvel.

They just hired -- ta da! -- Gamergate figure Zoe Quinn to write an entire series for their Vertigo imprint.

On one of the van Sciver live chats someone asked "how do these SJWs take over these companies?" and van Sciver replied to the effect of "All you need to do is get one of them into the company, and then they let in all their friends. It's happening now in DC comics. They brought on an SJW senior editor, and now he's bringing in all his SJW buddies".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (/qEW2)

404 I tend to associate side scrollers/belt-scrollers more with the early 90s...
Posted by: Hikaru at June 11, 2018 03:25 PM (WDCYi)

Fair enough. My point remains. The whole movie could basically be redone as a bunch of side-scroller levels combined with a fighting game for the boss fights.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (Tnhbr)

405 If we had seen the vision, we would automatically believe that it was inevitable, and the point of that scene is that it wasn't inevitable. Luke's doubt was what drove him to the attempt on Ben's life. Seeing the possible future would bias the audience towards Luke's original plan of action instead of the revised one (as it stands, there's no visual bias in the scene).

Maybe. It didn't exactly work in Superman vs Batman.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+)

406 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (/qEW2)

Greenlighting such an article is the surprise in itself. Blame is being tossed around in the Mouse House and people's careers are on the line. Someone really wanted to get their excuse out to the public before the big cleansing fire from on high gets going, perhaps thinking that if we blame it all on sexists, racists, Nazis, and homo-haters we can survive this one.

I do not know if that tactic will work. If it does *not* work then the SJWs are going to catch the backhand slap of the century, and it will be a sign to others to start ignoring the SJWs and stop indulging stupid and start getting the production line back on track.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (hLRSq)

407 We nee a Depp v Sheen pool.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (+lOpA)

408 >>>229 I know "Wonder Woman" is supposed to be the gold standard for "girl power films that work" but I thought it was absurdly over rated and and silly despite liking those types of films.

It's not about hating strong female leads, I still say "Aliens" is one of the best sc-fi films of all time with Sigourney Weaver being the hero.

...

Disagree on Wonder Woman. As Mollie Hemingway observed, Wonder Woman was a female action hero in which she remained essentially, fundamentally FEMALE throughout the film.

They didn't just make her a Dude With Tits. She didn't act like a dude or think like a dude. Well, a little, as far as thinking violence was the solution to all problems. But she was of course trained as warrior all her life, so that's her training talking.

But she felt womanly (or sometimes girlish -- she was quite naive) throughout the movie.

Hollywood's usual move for "bad ass women" is just to write them as cynical jackass men.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (8rNrN)

409 Take a number buddy.
Posted by: Kid from Shane at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (ymnmz)

I knew that little shit was gonna turn up again.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (7UW64)

410 "Star Wars" meets "Earth Girls are Easy".

Block

Buster

Or "Deliverance" Who cares? I'm in either way.

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (RuIsu)

411 On one of the van Sciver live chats someone asked "how do these SJWs take over these companies?" and van Sciver replied to the effect of "All you need to do is get one of them into the company, and then they let in all their friends. It's happening now in DC comics. They brought on an SJW senior editor, and now he's bringing in all his SJW buddies".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (/qEW2)

Sounds like a plague

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (SiINZ)

412 339 >>>Meh, Jessup is correct that standing on the wall isn't pretty or pleasant, but he was still a corrupt, narcissistic jackass who needed to be taken down.

he did break the code he claimed he lived his life by.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:17 PM (8rNrN)

And, Kaffee is a bit of a twit. Still, I like the movie. Upon seeing it during its theatrical run, I was dreading the inevitable scene where Kaffee and Galloway dispense with any sense of professionalism and start humping like wild dogs. Only, that scene never happened which pleasantly surprised me but left most "professional critics" whining. "But but but, where's the sex scene in our courtroom drama? Wahhhh." Assholes.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (NL6wI)

413
407 We nee a Depp v Sheen pool.
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Is Randy Quaid still alive?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (2LelM)

414 316 Zoe Quinn has zero experience in the industry, has shown (per her twitter feed) zero interest in comics, and has zero accomplishments even in her alleged metier of video game design.

Almost all the other new Vertigo titles are SJW crap too.

They're explicitly branded as "socially conscious."

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:12 PM (8rNrN)

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The Quartering has an interesting take on all of that: basically he feels it's all a smokescreen to distract from the heads rolling at DC, chiefly the firing of DC's female head. It's delicious irony if so. It would mean Zoe Quinn, et al are acting as agents of "Teh Patriarchy!!!" unknowingly!

Posted by: Jackal at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (mOYp9)

415 405 If we had seen the vision, we would automatically believe that it was inevitable, and the point of that scene is that it wasn't inevitable. Luke's doubt was what drove him to the attempt on Ben's life. Seeing the possible future would bias the audience towards Luke's original plan of action instead of the revised one (as it stands, there's no visual bias in the scene).

Maybe. It didn't exactly work in Superman vs Batman.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (39g3+)

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You mean the completely unrelated scene about some future that has nothing to do with any characters or plot in the movie?

I like BvS, but that scene is dumb and wildly out of place.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (SvWX4)

416 > I thought Zoe Quinn was transgender or was that someone else?

You're probably thinking of "Brianna Wu" (born John Walker).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (GXOTw)

417 I think it's Brianna Wu, not Zoe Quinn.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (/qEW2)

418 Yes it took me until The Last Jedi to notice that there was a diverse cast. That's why I thought The Force Awakens was fine, didn't realize that the main characters were female, black, and Spanish.

Makes total sense!

Posted by: John Marston at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (phoPy)

419 >>They just hired -- ta da! -- Gamergate figure Zoe Quinn to write an entire series for their Vertigo imprint.

Wasn't Quinn's hoohah ground zero for GamerGate?!? As in: she used it to get good game reviews? Ugh!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (W+vEI)

420 "The Kubrik one. Never saw the remake."

Don't waste your time unless you are a hardcore Stephen King book fan. The Kubrick movie is superior and, as an added bonus ultra lib Stephen King hates it.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (OD2ni)

421

Do you know that many of us who go to Hollywood seeking a chance have to submit to anal sex and all kind of debauchery and they give you a little part? It's called the casting couch. See that's Jewish power.
-Louis Farrakhan

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 11, 2018 03:30 PM (IqV8l)

422 Or "Deliverance" Who cares? I'm in either way.
------------------------
How about Deliverance the New Wokeness?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:30 PM (2LelM)

423 We nee a Depp v Sheen pool.
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (+lOpA)

Doesn't Sheen have AIDS?

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:30 PM (F4u7C)

424 417
I think it's Brianna Wu, not Zoe Quinn.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (/qEW2)
So Brianna Wu was born a white male and decided to be an Asian woman???

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:30 PM (a0IVu)

425 >>>EVS is determined to make more money off the Star Wars franchise than Disney itself. Dude makes 6 hours of videos about it per day.

it's not just the direct money; he's building up a large base of fans to which to advertise his Cyberfrog book and all future works (he hopes to be purely independent going forward).

I think part of this is that he doesn't feel comfortable shit-talking Marvel or DC comics themselves, but is frustrated with them, and has seized on Star Wars as a "safe" target for his frustrations.

I don't know if he's right about that. I imagine the SJW leaders of Marvel AND DC are pissed at him for trashing their SJW bullshit.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:31 PM (8rNrN)

426 Can't resist, another Hofferism:

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2018 03:31 PM (kBWZu)

427 Doesn't Sheen have AIDS?

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:30 PM (F4u7C)
He is HIV positive I believe..

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (a0IVu)

428 Randy Quaid.

Is he the regular one or the big weird one.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (+lOpA)

429 Look, just because I have a mammoth pile of loose cash on the floor of my dollar sign building-vault doesn't mean I'm going to keep throwing money at this shit.

Posted by: Scrooge McDuck at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (UFgOG)

430 Not sure if he actually had anything playing in the head phones.....

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:21 PM (F4u7C)

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NEW EUPHEMISM FOR A DULLARD.

Also, maybe: "The music is streaming, but the Bluetooth is off..."

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (l2max)

431 > So Brianna Wu was born a white male and decided to be an Asian woman???

Married to an Asian dude, so at least "she's" not so nutso as to claim to be a different race.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (GXOTw)

432 428 Randy Quaid.

Is he the regular one or the big weird one.
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The big weird one from American Vacation.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (2LelM)

433 He is HIV positive I believe..
Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (a0IVu)

Does he have enough money to mainline cash and be cured like Magic Johnson?

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (F4u7C)

434 The Kubrick movie is superior and, as an added bonus ultra lib Stephen King hates it.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (OD2ni)

Just spent the weekend culling books from my library to donate. Lots of Stevie King books on top of the stack. I've read 'em, they sucked, and they're taking up valuable "good book" space.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (MX7xj)

435 >>>411 On one of the van Sciver live chats someone asked "how do these SJWs take over these companies?" and van Sciver replied to the effect of "All you need to do is get one of them into the company, and then they let in all their friends. It's happening now in DC comics. They brought on an SJW senior editor, and now he's bringing in all his SJW buddies".

huh. I was just saying he was trying to avoid talking about that stuff specifically. As his Cyberfrog crowdfunding campaign has taken off, however, I have noticed him getting braver about talking about his former employers.

He had previously thought he would have to go back to them; he might be more convinced he can safely burn those bridges.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (8rNrN)

436 410 "Star Wars" meets "Earth Girls are Easy".

Block

Buster

Or "Deliverance" Who cares? I'm in either way.
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (RuIsu)

A patrol of stormtroopers fights for survival in a back water planet after getting raped by the locals. I'd see it.

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (7HtZB)

437 I knew that little shit was gonna turn up again.
Little bastard shot me right in the ass.

Posted by: the Waco Kid at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (Evws/)

438 TWITTER CEO CAVES TO LIBERAL BACKLASH, SAYS HE WAS WRONG TO EAT CHICK-FIL-A

EAT MORE CROW!

Posted by: KOW at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (Ndje9)

439 377 The Ocean's 8 plot was thought up by the same people who brought us Lady Ghostbuster's, I'm sure of it.

they interrupt the heist for a big dance number?

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (NmR1a)

440 "So Brianna Wu was born a white male and decided to be an Asian woman???
Posted by: IC"

Yes, but you are a bigot if you say he has obvious mental issues.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (OD2ni)

441 Randy Quaid.

Is he the regular one or the big weird one.
Posted by: eleven

Big weird "Shitter's Full!" one.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (9uM86)

442 Disagree on Wonder Woman. As Mollie Hemingway observed, Wonder Woman was a female action hero in which she remained essentially, fundamentally FEMALE throughout the film.

And she was heroic. She was straight up, "this is the right thing to do, so I'm just gonna do it no matter what" and cared nothing for her own safety or self, only what was right to do.

I have my complaints with the film: the treatment of women was not like that in the 40s, even in England. They're acting like it was Victorian England and even then women weren't treated like that. Like ace said, the ending was a letdown particularly for WW fans (she's god now? She can just do anything? She doesn't even have a powerset now, just wish powers??). And there are little bits like taking an open boat from Turkey to England in like a day or taking out a few soldiers in a trench totally liberates an entire town. But overall it was much, much better than DC had been giving us, and delightfully so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (39g3+)

443 Unexpectedly !

*this may be the Universal Comment !*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 11, 2018 03:33 PM (GNCPT)

444 Sorry, too tired of reading about sexism, racism, et al used as a cudgel to try and shame normal feelings about the most trivial of issues like movies. They don't have to worry about my movie-going dollars as they won't get any.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (rdl6o)

445 Does he have enough money to mainline cash and be cured like Magic Johnson?
Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:32 PM (F4u7C)

Not but he does have tiger blood.

No telling how the two will interact.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (72PAC)

446 I think a lot of conservatives know all about pop culture. They know exactly what it is and so don't feel the need to steep themselves in it.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (fRU2t)

447 >>>"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both."

similar to his statement (paraphrased) that you can have a religion without a god, but you cannot have a religion without a devil to hate.

"Religion" used metaphorically to mean a cult of any kind, including a political movement.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (8rNrN)

448 As an avowed sexist, I've always hated Princess Leia

As an avowed racist I've always hated the aliens WHO MAKE UP MOST OF THE POPULATION OF THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE.

Remember, when everyone is a sexist and racist, no one is a sexist and racist.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (T09ml)

449 "Star Wars" meets "Earth Girls are Easy".

Block

Buster

Or "Deliverance" Who cares? I'm in either way.
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (RuIsu)

Meets 2069: A Space Odyssey

Destined for greatness.

Posted by: Sponge at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (F4u7C)

450 407 We nee a Depp v Sheen pool.
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:28 PM (+lOpA)

not enough chlorine in the world....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (AURKQ)

451 So which one was the one sleeping with game developers?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (ycWCI)

452 >>>the treatment of women was not like that in the 40s, even in England.

it was 1917. World War One to make it seem like not a total re-make of Captain America.

"And then Steve Rogers sacrifices himself in a plane."

"Did you say Steve *Rogers*?"

"Nope. And then Diana levels up due to the Power of Love or something."

(Pitch Meeting quotes.)

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:35 PM (8rNrN)

453 I'd like to see Wonder Woman in a training bra!

Posted by: the Waco Kid at June 11, 2018 03:35 PM (Evws/)

454 451 So which one was the one sleeping with game developers?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 03:34 PM (ycWCI)

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Zoe Quinn. And it was journalists she was sleeping with behind the back of her emo SJW boyfriend.

Posted by: Jackal at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (mOYp9)

455 Forbes helped the character assassination of Google engineer James Demore.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (lAzE1)

456 Did somebody mention annoying kids in movies?

Posted by: Bobby Savoy at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (TQ+cE)

457 "Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2018 03:31 PM (kBWZu)

My take is simpler. People are screwed up and rather than deal with their own issues, they grab onto some cause or other to become militant about, thereby avoiding self reflection and virtue-signalling at the same time, so that people think they really have their shit together.

And then, when said cause peters out, they grab another one or they flame out completely.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (7UW64)

458 I think Charlie Sheen is as anti-suicidal as one can be.

Reckless, sure, but anti-suicidal.

He'll outlive us all.

I think it's the Tiger Blood.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (8rNrN)

459 sock off
not like chef bourdain though

Posted by: andycanuck at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (Evws/)

460 I like BvS, but that scene is dumb and wildly out of place.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 11, 2018 03:29 PM (SvWX4)

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It was surprisingly expensive to shoot.

Posted by: BvS editors at June 11, 2018 03:37 PM (l2max)

461 "Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus
people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new
content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by
nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited
opportunities for both."

Hatred of the kid from The Shining gives purpose to my life. I'm trying to start a movement to lead. Who's with me?????

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:37 PM (FWsqf)

462 SJW Hollywood: The beatings will continue until box office improves.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2018 03:37 PM (vDqXW)

463 "456 Did somebody mention annoying kids in movies?
Posted by: Bobby Savoy"

THat scene where he asks Roy Hobbs about making his own bat is painful to watch.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:37 PM (OD2ni)

464 Zoe Quinn. And it was journalists she was sleeping with behind the back of her emo SJW boyfriend.
Posted by: Jackal at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (mOYp9)

Ahhh.

Empowered woman and all that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 03:37 PM (ycWCI)

465 Huh.
SJW remake of Deliverance ?

What would they do differently ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (GNCPT)

466 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 11, 2018 03:20 PM (gTYjx)

It's good that they will have that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (rp9xB)

467 I'd like to see Wonder Woman in a training bra!

Posted by: the Waco Kid at June 11, 2018 03:35 PM (Evws/)

---------------

You can wear whatever you want, but you might want to stream it at home if you're gonna do that...

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (l2max)

468 >>>
The Quartering has an interesting take on all of that: basically he feels it's all a smokescreen to distract from the heads rolling at DC, chiefly the firing of DC's female head. It's delicious irony if so. It would mean Zoe Quinn, et al are acting as agents of "Teh Patriarchy!!!" unknowingly!

apparently a lot of us are watching the same vlogs

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (8rNrN)

469
Thanks for bringing this stuff to my attention, ace.
(I otherwise would not follow this crap. Though I think it is worth a person being made aware of.)

Due to this your post, I am now an ex-Star Wars fan.
That's not trivial.
I grew up on Star Wars. Somewhere, I still have "My Jedi Journal" which on the hard cover displayed a very adept artist's depiction of Yoda in his hovel holding open a scroll making notes by candle light. When I was a kid I used to consider myself a 'Jedi in training' (-whatever that was).

For those demented SJWs who claim that we are the bad guys for disliking a self-ruined brand, there is one easy move to take against them:
"YOU ARE DELUSIONAL PARANOIDS WHO CONJURE PHANTASMAL BOGEYMEN SIMPLY BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO EAT YOUR SICK DOG FOOD."

********************

Ace, I have two truly GREAT film recommendations:
_Small Town Crime_ starring John Hawkes..
Hawkes also starred in the awesomely excellent _Too Late_.

Both of these films are tremendous. Please check them out. You will not regret viewing either of them.
(_Too Late_ is more of an 'art' film.
_Small Town Crime_ is more the straightforward narrative. But both are great films with great performances.)

Posted by: Cold Civil War at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (Z2PYk)

470 They're so fucking stupid they don't even realize they perpetuate racism in their own movies, especially against Asians.

Sure, it's a fucking brilliant move to incorporate diversity by introducing an Asian character and then intentionally, iNTENTIONALLY!!! make her the worst fucking idiot and incessantly annoying shit for brains ever that people actually started to look for Jar Jar just to get some relief from the stupid.

They have no excuse, so they resort to the same fucking old bullshit every fucking goddamned day of the week, if they have no argument, its off to calling you a bigot, sexist, racist, white boy, demeaning people's intelligence and dehumanizing their worth simply because they don't share the same political ideology these commie fucksticks of hell do.

Fuck you Disney up the fucking ass with the mighty barbed dildo of radioactive death, fuckholes.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (+dsLj)

471 I still thought the WW movie was "meh", I wonder how well the movie would have done if Gal Gadot wasn't hot?

But can someone clear something up regarding Wonder Woman?

Is she bullet proof or not?

She's always having to deflect bullets with her wrist bands, but Superman just stands there and let's them bounce off his eyeballs.

Seems a shotgun could take down Wonder Woman.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (lKmt3)

472 What would they do differently ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (GNCPT)
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Gender swap?

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (vDqXW)

473 have to submit to anal sex and all kind of debauchery and they give you a little part? It's called the casting couch. See that's Jewish power.
-Louis Farrakhan

Matzoh......buying wholesale........

still not working.

Posted by: Forget shape shifting; this is the Jewish power I want at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (GYX1g)

474 >>Zoe Quinn. And it was journalists she was sleeping with behind the back of her emo SJW boyfriend.

...In exchange for good reviews, which is what caused the revolt. It showed the Gaming press to be every bit as corrupt and insider in putting out a narrative vs. reality as, say, the DC press.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (W+vEI)

475 Huh.
SJW remake of Deliverance ?

What would they do differently ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Enjoy the squealing scene?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (9uM86)

476 He is HIV positive I believe.
Well are you positive or don't you know? Make up your mind, IC!

Posted by: andycanuck at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (Evws/)

477 Randy Quaid.

Randy Quaid is the loon.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (Boy/L)

478 Zoe Quinn. And it was journalists she was sleeping with behind the back of her emo SJW boyfriend.
Posted by: Jackal at June 11, 2018 03:36 PM (mOYp9)

Ahhh.

Empowered woman and all that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 11, 2018 03:37 PM (ycWCI)

Seems to be par for the course in the industry.

All of the media industries, now that I think about it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:40 PM (hLRSq)

479 "475 Huh.
SJW remake of Deliverance ?

What would they do differently ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez"

Can I have the Ned Beatty part?

Posted by: Shep Smith at June 11, 2018 03:40 PM (OD2ni)

480 Andy Warhol's Deliverance.

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 11, 2018 03:40 PM (RuIsu)

481 They will not rest until you are forced to watch (and pay for) whatever crap they put on the screen. They might want to read a little history and learn about what started the Hays Commission and censorship of films back in the day.

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 11, 2018 03:41 PM (JKNZq)

482 Is she bullet proof or not?

She's always having to deflect bullets with her wrist bands, but Superman just stands there and let's them bounce off his eyeballs.

Seems a shotgun could take down Wonder Woman.
Posted by: Maritime

there's a cartoon about that. Superman asks the same question, and she does; and er chest starts to jiggle in a fascinating way. So she goes back to the bracelets.

Posted by: Forget shape shifting; mtcmtmail= at June 11, 2018 03:41 PM (GYX1g)

483 Hatred of the kid from The Shining gives purpose to my life. I'm trying to start a movement to lead. Who's with me?????

Got the same feeling about the child in The Sixth Sense, which I watched and commented on yesterday. It was agonizingly slow paced and I just wanted it to end. I felt like Elaine on Seinfeld when she snapped at a viewing of The English Patient.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at June 11, 2018 03:41 PM (rdl6o)

484 I watched Deadpool 2 yesterday; it was good but the first one was better I think.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:41 PM (a0IVu)

485 Vaht are ve, chopped liver, to make us have to come in the back door?

Oy!

Posted by: Teh Jooos! at June 11, 2018 03:41 PM (AURKQ)

486 468 >>>
The Quartering has an interesting take on all of that: basically he feels it's all a smokescreen to distract from the heads rolling at DC, chiefly the firing of DC's female head. It's delicious irony if so. It would mean Zoe Quinn, et al are acting as agents of "Teh Patriarchy!!!" unknowingly!

apparently a lot of us are watching the same vlogs
Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (8rNrN)

=============

Heh, I wouldn't be suprised. The internet is smaller than you'd think! I wonder what Disney will do to deflect from scruitny when and if they can Kathleen Kennedy? Hire a SJW friendly face while someone who actually knows what they're doing tries to mend what Kennedy trashed? It'll be interesting to watch for sure.

Posted by: Jackal at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (mOYp9)

487 All this carping anout kids, and not a single unkind word for that little shit in A Christmas Story?!?

I wanted him to shoot his eye out.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (LgxQn)

488 I want the kid from The Shining to be in the remake of Deliverance. And this time he doesn't make it.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (FWsqf)

489 >>>If we had seen the vision, we would automatically believe that it was inevitable, and the point of that scene is that it wasn't inevitable. Luke's doubt was what drove him to the attempt on Ben's life.

WTF would Han and Leia name their kid Ben? Leia had only heard of Ben Kenobi and never met him; Han thought he was an old fool.

Ben Kenobi looked after Luke on Tatooine but apparently never even checked in on Leia. (I assume.)

You'd think they would have other people closer to them to name their kid after.

Luke, for example. Or hell, Chewie.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (8rNrN)

490 Mindless screams of "keep your politics out of my entertainment" abound from that corner of fandom ignorant of the most basic facts about what the films say and represent (the Empire's designs and titles were heavily influenced by fascism and Nazi imagery - Forbes

I thought the screams were "What happened to the entertainment? It's all a blatant attempt to push the pc narrative".

And there's a difference between what he's calling "politics" in the earlier and the Disney films. Having a story of good vs evil and importing some imagery from an evil regime in a subtle way that does really impact the story differs from having some feminist scold who is basically saying "haha! I've taken over the franchise, and now I will pedantically shake my finger at you and hit you over the head with politically correct object lessons about the struggle against sexism", where that takes priority over character motivations and plot.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (/qEW2)

491 488 I want the kid from The Shining to be in the remake of Deliverance. And this time he doesn't make it.
------------------------
Red Rum. Red Rum.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (2LelM)

492 OT - Singapore's PM surprised PDT with a birthday cake at their lunch meeting..early birthday celebrations. A nice gesture.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

493 All this carping anout kids, and not a single unkind word for that little shit in A Christmas Story?!?

I wanted him to shoot his eye out.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls

Having to wear the pink bunny suit was punishment enough.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (9uM86)

494 "Vaht are ve, chopped liver, to make us have to come in the back door?

Oy!
Posted by: Teh Jooos!"

I like coming in the back door.

Posted by: Shep Smith at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

495 How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter? Anyone think that would put butts in the seats?
Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 02:58 PM (2LelM)

Taken. Which made bushels of cash.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (NmXoG)

496 I watched Deadpool 2 yesterday; it was good but the first one was better I think.
Posted by: IC

the opening scene, following credits and the X Force in action made it worthwhile.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (GYX1g)

497 > I want the kid from The Shining to be in the remake of Deliverance.

I saw somewhere that that kid (probably in his 40s now) was working in a grocery store somewhere in the Midwest. He never had another part after The Shining.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (GXOTw)

498 487 All this carping anout kids, and not a single unkind word for that little shit in A Christmas Story?!?

I wanted him to shoot his eye out.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (LgxQn)

Don't get me started on how much I loathe that movie.

Everyone seems to love it.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (+lOpA)

499 You'd think they would have other people closer to them to name their kid after.

Luke, for example. Or hell, Chewie.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (8rNrN)

Bail.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (Tnhbr)

500 No white mushrooms this crop.
Meanwhile what @#$%^*( let the key drop out of the lawnmower pulley shaft.

Posted by: DaveA at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (FhXTo)

501 And someone might want to point out that blacks are a MINORITY. If you've decided that small audience is what you are shooting for, you're going to have lower ticket sales.

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (JKNZq)

502 I felt like Elaine on Seinfeld when she snapped at a viewing of The English Patient.

LOL. That was a classic.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (FWsqf)

503 Another thing, is that back in 1980 it cost $3 to see a movie not $12.

So the total people count seeing movies is way down and SJW films are barely getting a small fraction of the percent of movie goers.

That and the theatre experience continues to degrade while my home setup continues to get more kick-ass.

Caught the Bruce Willis remake of "Death Wish" over the weekend: highly recommended. There's a hot chick with big boobs that runs a gun store, and it seems like the script goes out of its way to mock SJWs.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (ZGrMX)

504 the opening scene, following credits and the X Force in action made it worthwhile.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (GYX1g)
Yes, the credits were especially hysterical.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:43 PM (a0IVu)

505 >>>I still thought the WW movie was "meh", I wonder how well the movie would have done if Gal Gadot wasn't hot?

But can someone clear something up regarding Wonder Woman?

Is she bullet proof or not?

She's always having to deflect bullets with her wrist bands, but Superman just stands there and let's them bounce off his eyeballs.

Seems a shotgun could take down Wonder Woman.

...

"I'm keeping her powers vague so when she does something people will say, 'Oh, I guess she can do that now.'"

Posted by: The Writer from Pitch Meeting at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (8rNrN)

506 Earth Girls are Easy was the only movie Jim Carry was ever funny in.

Posted by: Archer at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (+EKsT)

507 474 >>Zoe Quinn. And it was journalists she was sleeping with behind the back of her emo SJW boyfriend.

...In exchange for good reviews, which is what caused the revolt. It showed the Gaming press to be every bit as corrupt and insider in putting out a narrative vs. reality as, say, the DC press.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 03:39 PM (W+vEI)

================

And then Sarkessian latched onto it for fun and profit (but mostly profit, Sargon of Akkad has some good videos on her scam).

Posted by: Jackal at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (mOYp9)

508
Sure, it's a fucking brilliant move to incorporate diversity by introducing an Asian character and then intentionally, iNTENTIONALLY!!! make her the worst fucking idiot and incessantly annoying shit for brains ever that people actually started to look for Jar Jar just to get some relief from the stupid.

There's business brilliance behind that move that would MELT OUR PUNY BRAINS were they ever to reveal it to us. Praise the gods, they are merciful!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (pNxlR)

509 I saw somewhere that that kid (probably in his 40s now) was working in a
grocery store somewhere in the Midwest. He never had another part after
The Shining.

Hope he got a haircut.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (FWsqf)

510 Because it might involve taking the mower apart to loosen the belt.
There's manly jobs and there's pay another guy to do it manly.

Posted by: DaveA at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (FhXTo)

511 Kids in movies are generally awful with few exceptions.

Tatum O'niell. The kid in Slingblade....

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (+lOpA)

512 " It would mean Zoe Quinn, et al are acting as agents of "Teh Patriarchy!!!" unknowingly!"

Being promoted far beyond your level of incompetence tends to be noticed. When it becomes a trend, people start to look at the source.

SJW is a luxury not a necessity, many will discover.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (hLRSq)

513 "They might want to read a little history and learn about what started the Hays Commission and censorship of films back in the day.
Posted by: notsothoreau"

Maureen O'Sullican's thong? Not that I'm complaining.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (OD2ni)

514 488 I want the kid from The Shining to be in the remake of Deliverance. And this time he doesn't make it.
In keeping with the movie theme, all that hate is gonna burn you up, kid.

Posted by: LGoPs

Posted by: Bobby Savoy at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (TQ+cE)

515 > How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter?

The part Charles Bronson was born to play.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (GXOTw)

516 396 Akshully, I lied. I did mean to give offense. It's like a litmus test for me.

Just kidding.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:27 PM (FWsqf)

Heh. Kubric's little kid comes across to me as disturbed and abused (possibly sexually as some have purported) which added to the overall uneasy vibe of the film. The TV remake's little kid was just a ball of pure annoyance and mucus.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (NL6wI)

517 You'd think they would have other people closer to them to name their kid after.

Luke, for example. Or hell, Chewie.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (8rNrN)

Bass.

Posted by: Teh Jooos! at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (AURKQ)

518 (hehe... faux-anti-semitic-sock off)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 03:46 PM (AURKQ)

519 465
Huh.

SJW remake of Deliverance ?

What would they do differently ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (GNCPT)

You can get the Buzzfeed reporter or Lisa Page to fill the Ned Beatty role, cause I aint doin it.

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at June 11, 2018 03:46 PM (ymnmz)

520 I never understand how resilient to injury the mid-power superheros are.

We know how resilient Superman and Luke Cage are (almost completely). We know how resilient Daredevil and Batman are (almost not at all, except for some light armoring).

What about Spiderman, Captain America, and Wonder Woman? Clearly they are much, much stronger than average people. Are their muscles a kind of half-armor, due to being so dense?

Who knows. THey act like they could get hurt by conventional means yet when, for example, Captain America is blown out of a fourth story window by an explosion and lands on his head on an armored car and then rag-dolls to the ground, he's only unconscious for 15 seconds.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:46 PM (8rNrN)

521
And there's a difference between what he's calling "politics" in the earlier and the Disney films. Having a story of good vs evil and importing some imagery from an evil regime in a subtle way that does really impact the story differs from having some feminist scold who is basically saying "haha!

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (/qEW2)
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But it was wrong of us to only see one side of the Homeworld-killing Empire.

The pro-Empire side was never told.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (vDqXW)

522 494
"Vaht are ve, chopped liver, to make us have to come in the back door?

Oy!

Posted by: Teh Jooos!"

http://www.madmusic.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=5780

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (37IEG)

523 "Earth Girls are Easy was the only movie Jim Carry was ever funny in.
Posted by: Archer"

I get that he is an annoying lib, but you didn't find him funny in Dumb & Dimber?

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (OD2ni)

524 Caught the Bruce Willis remake of "Death Wish" over the weekend: highly recommended. There's a hot chick with big boobs that runs a gun store, and it seems like the script goes out of its way to mock SJWs.
Posted by: Ian S.

__________

I saw it also, thought it was a great action flick.

Just like the original "Death Wish" with Charles Bronson, critics went out of their way to savage it because they didn't like the narrative, but audience scores were really high. It has terrible reviews.

It's not "Die Hard" great, I'd give it 3 out of 4 stars, but everyone I saw it with also really liked it.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (lKmt3)

525 515 > How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter?

The part Charles Bronson was born to play.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (GXOTw)

I think that was already an episode of Law and Order.

The angry father was given life without parole, and all the prosecutors went home satisfied with themselves.

*clonk clonk*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (AURKQ)

526
Hollywood related...

Creepy Rhodes tweets

Ben Rhodes @brhodes
The pathetic and embarrassing thing is that Trump's approach will end up hurting our farmers, workers and companies while also surrendering our global leadership.

James Woods responds

James Woods @RealJamesWoods

Your old boss would bow to a fire hydrant. Don't talk about surrendering global leadership. In fact don't talk at all.

haha, a fire hydrant

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (fceHP)

527 Next up: Tofu Wars, The G.I. Tract Strikes Back

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (HgMAr)

528 Sock off

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (TQ+cE)

529 You could remake the Silence of the Lambs but have a pit full of SJW chicks being culled by Fag Fashion Designers in NYC making handbags and shoes out of their skins.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (2LelM)

530 >>SJW remake of Deliverance ?
What would they do differently ?

Wasn't there just an indie movie where a band of Southern Bigot Sterotypes come to NYC and go all crazy on the locals?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (W+vEI)

531 I saw somewhere that that kid (probably in his 40s now) was working in a grocery store somewhere in the Midwest. He never had another part after The Shining.

He had one more part. He was in. G. Gordon Liddy autobiographic in '82. Per IMDb.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (9uM86)

532 513
"They might want to read a little history and learn about what started
the Hays Commission and censorship of films back in the day.

Posted by: notsothoreau"

Maureen O'Sullican's thong? Not that I'm complaining.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (OD2ni)

There was one old Tarzan movie that was way over the top with the vavavavooom on Jane. As a 12 year old boy with no vcr replay I was heart broken.

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (ymnmz)

533 Luke, for example. Or hell, Chewie.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (8rNrN)

Jabba.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (72PAC)

534 "I'd like to see Wonder Woman in a training bra!"

Never understood the reason that training bras existed.

It's not like those cute sweater rascals are gonna learn any tricks...right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (EyPfd)

535 Kids in movies are generally awful with few exceptions.

Tatum O'niell. The kid in Slingblade....
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (+lOpA)

I thought the kids in Stranger Things were unusually likeable. All of them, except the older boy with the gigantic head.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (xPJvm)

536 Your nic reminds me of something I witnessed this weekend. We went into a fast food restaurant and there was a large dude with headphones on singing rather loudly "Money for Nothing" but only managed to repeat "we gotta move these refrigerators....we gotta move these color TV's" every 30 seconds or so.

Not sure if he actually had anything playing in the head phones.....

probably to make sure he wouldn't inadvertently sing the verboten bit, you know the one about the F words...

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (RKQ/v)

537 And that's how you got Jar-Jar..

Posted by: TexasJew at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (5czEb)

538 What would they do differently ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 11, 2018 03:38 PM (GNCPT)
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Well, I suggested midnight kidnappings, real anal sex on the screen, and the viewing chairs from Clockwork Orange....

But apparently, the standards for what you can do to someone against their will seems to have changed.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (vDqXW)

539

The Hill @thehill
Supreme Court rules in favor of Ohio's purge of voters from voter rolls

Schumer's mad, lol

Burn, baby, burn

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (fceHP)

540 I thought the kids in Stranger Things were unusually likeable. All of them, except the older boy with the gigantic head.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (xPJvm)

The casting for Stranger Things was fantastic.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (72PAC)

541 James Woods @RealJamesWoods

Your old boss would bow to a fire hydrant. Don't talk about surrendering global leadership. In fact don't talk at all.

haha, a fire hydrant

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (fceHP)
James Wood is a treasure...

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (a0IVu)

542 Luke, for example. Or hell, Chewie.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (8rNrN)

Yeah, name your kid Chewie and then wonder why he goes to the dark side.

Hmm...

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (7UW64)

543
534 "I'd like to see Wonder Woman in a training bra!"

Never understood the reason that training bras existed.

It's not like those cute sweater rascals are gonna learn any tricks...right?
---------------------------
Avoiding cross eyed bewbies is a thing.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (2LelM)

544 In Ben Rhodes' twisted world our world leadership consists of taking it up the ass from the whole world.

And this fuckstick was in a policy making position? Shame on all who voted for Obama.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (FWsqf)

545 I have an idea for an all-gurl remake of Lonesome Dove. The plot also involves a guy being kidnapped and raped by all-gurl injuns.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (ptqGC)

546 529 You could remake the Silence of the Lambs but have a pit full of SJW chicks being culled by Fag Fashion Designers in NYC making handbags and shoes out of their skins.
Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (2LelM)

The Devil Wears Prada II: Electric Boogaloo

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (AURKQ)

547 If Disney and the SJW film critics are so worried about Toxic White Fandom, maybe they should just replace the old white fans with Mexicans. I'm sure that will work out at the box office. If they give away the tickets.

Posted by: Ripley at June 11, 2018 03:51 PM (MxEKc)

548 489 >>>If we had seen the vision, we would automatically believe that it was inevitable, and the point of that scene is that it wasn't inevitable. Luke's doubt was what drove him to the attempt on Ben's life.

WTF would Han and Leia name their kid Ben? Leia had only heard of Ben Kenobi and never met him; Han thought he was an old fool.

Ben Kenobi looked after Luke on Tatooine but apparently never even checked in on Leia. (I assume.)

You'd think they would have other people closer to them to name their kid after.

Luke, for example. Or hell, Chewie.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (8rNrN)

In the old Star Wars EU, Luke's kid was named Ben. Which makes a lot more sense.

Posted by: josephistan at June 11, 2018 03:51 PM (7HtZB)

549 523
"Earth Girls are Easy was the only movie Jim Carry was ever funny in.

Posted by: Archer"

I get that he is an annoying lib, but you didn't find him funny in Dumb Dimber?

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (OD2ni)

Ace Ventura 1 was funny. When he finds out that whatshername is actually a dude. Can't make that movie anymore. Nope.

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at June 11, 2018 03:51 PM (ymnmz)

550 Tatum O'niell. The kid in Slingblade....
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (+lOpA)

Hah. I've taken to calling DH "Boilermaker" when he's coaching Little League. Not everyone gets the reference.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2018 03:51 PM (7UW64)

551 Glad we are way into OT if not practicing willow time.
My day went from bad to worse. But still alive and no blood given up.

Posted by: Skip j at June 11, 2018 03:52 PM (pHfeF)

552 Gal Gadot doesn't do anything for me as WW. Yeah, I get she's a gorgeous super model but personally, meh.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 03:52 PM (fRU2t)

553 How about an all girl reboot of Bridge over the River Kwai?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 03:52 PM (EyPfd)

554 >>What would they do differently ?

"Bushwick"

When a Texas military force invades their Brooklyn neighborhood, 20-year-old Lucy and war veteran Stupe must depend on each other to survive......

Posted by: Lizzy at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (W+vEI)

555 I don't understand The Death Star. The point of a galactic empire would be ruling planets. How is it useful to destroy them? It's self defeating. It'd be like nuking everywhere to rule the world. Star Wars has maybe sucked all along on some level.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (LgxQn)

556 How about an all girl reboot of Bridge over the River Kwai?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 03:52 PM (EyPfd)

they gonna haul them logs with their shirts off?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (Lg2h/)

557 How about a movie about an angry father hunting down a Muslim grooming gang for what they did to his daughter?

The part Charles Bronson was born to play.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 11, 2018 03:45 PM (GXOTw)

Or maybe Liam Neeson.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (ZtIV1)

558 Who wants to see an origin story of a (spoiler) dead character?

Posted by: Mega at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (7jsGy)

559 where SJW shit begins to cost the media real money.

It's already costing them real money.
It didn't stop when it's costing them real majority control of the the political system.
We'll see if it stops when a bunch of bigwigs lose jobs.
per Zoe above that might not do it either.

Even after the institution is dead they wear it like a gimp suit.

We never should have let these little shits out of kindergarten til they could stay on their own playmat and color within the lines.

Posted by: DaveA at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (FhXTo)

560 Is she bullet proof or not?

She's very bullet resistant, but not bulletproof. And she heals rapidly. Better to block the bullets.

Kids in movies are generally awful with few exceptions.

Short Round in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (39g3+)

561 The Hill @thehill
Supreme Court rules in favor of Ohio's purge of voters from voter rolls

Schumer's mad, lol

Burn, baby, burn
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (fceHP)
-------------

And once again, the four liberals on the court simply ignore the plain language of the statute and create preferred "progressive" law instead, ignoring Congress and the voters.

Let's hope Trump gets to name a couple more justices to the court.

Posted by: WisRich at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (G0vdT)

562 540
I thought the kids in Stranger Things were unusually likeable. All of them, except the older boy with the gigantic head.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2018 03:49 PM (xPJvm)

The casting for Stranger Things was fantastic.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 03:50 PM (72PAC)

LOL Which one? hair dude or herione sheik dude?

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (ymnmz)

563 When Chewie sits down is it mainsplaining or is saying that cultural appropriation?

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (MS0+a)

564 Wanna bet Trump is already awake for the summit?

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (Enq6K)

565 "Ace Ventura 1 was funny. When he finds out that whatshername is actually a dude. Can't make that movie anymore. Nope.
Posted by: Stormy Daniels"

Nope. I'm surpirsed they still play Funky Cold Medina by Tone Loc on the radio. "It was a big ole mess cause Sheena was a a man. I don't mess around with no Oscar Meyer weiner."

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 11, 2018 03:55 PM (OD2ni)

566 How about an all girl reboot of Bridge over the River Kwai?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 03:52 PM (EyPfd)

I heard that they're planning a remake of "12 Angry Men".

The proposed title, "Any 12 Women" may need some polishing.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 11, 2018 03:55 PM (GYX1g)

567 >>>552 Gal Gadot doesn't do anything for me as WW. Yeah, I get she's a gorgeous super model but personally, meh.

she does a lot for me and she's not even the type I usually like.

She did a bit on Conan showing her training for the film, and she could deliver a roundhouse kick to a standing man's head.

I dug that.

But she just seems very cool anyway. When SJW Ezra Miller (last seen defiling the Flash in Justice League) insisted on her reading an SJW slogan as part of a promotion for the Justice League movie, she refused, and continued gracefully deflecting even when this jackass kept insisting she repeat his line.

So #Woke of him, to demand that a woman do what he, a man (?), tells her to!

And obviously, she's beautiful.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:55 PM (8rNrN)

568 LOL Which one? hair dude or herione sheik dude?
Posted by: Stormy Daniels at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (ymnmz)

Hair dude. constantly looks like he was just smacked in the face with a 2X4

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2018 03:56 PM (xPJvm)

569 Coming soon!
All girl remakes of :
"The Longest Day",
"The Battle of the Bulge",
"A Bridge Too Far"
"Bridge over the River Kwai"
and
"The Battle of Britain"

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 03:56 PM (37IEG)

570 It never ceases to amaze me that movie makers completely ignore the immensely popular romance novel formula. This is also used in most werewolf, vampire, science fiction books. There is a strong, virile alpha male who sets out to protect the female protagonist who turns out to be feisty, able, smart and clever who demands to be a partner in the action. They then proceed to fall in love after much sexual tension and escaping, running,battling,and destroying the bad guys.
So, women want to see a great male body(ideally shirtless) who has all the money in the world due to amazing success in life and strong protective instincts as well as the skill to deal with bad guys. And, men want to see beautiful women in scanty clothing falling into bed with said hero. Therefore something for both sexes.

Posted by: Sharon at June 11, 2018 03:56 PM (QzF6i)

571 Tatum O'niell. The kid in Slingblade....
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:44 PM (+

Paper Moon holds up really well as does Slingblade. Probably because of those kids.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 03:56 PM (ZtIV1)

572 How about an all girl reboot of Bridge over the River Kwai?

But in this one, the girls are right, and when a man tries to blow up their perfectly built, beautiful bridge, they prove to him that love and female power conquers all as the Japanese surrender to their boobie power and the commandant kills himself as a stand in for all masculinity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (39g3+)

573 Disney should just tell us what they really think. All the people who didn't like Soylo are Literally Hitlers.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (fq72/)

574 >>>OT - Singapore's PM surprised PDT with a birthday cake at their lunch meeting..early birthday celebrations. A nice gesture.

love the pics

Posted by: concrete girl at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (IVQr2)

575 I would hope any decent father wouldn't let his daughter get anywhere near a Muslim grooming gang.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (fRU2t)

576 Or maybe Liam Neeson.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (ZtIV1)

Naahhh....no the right fit. Would never work.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (+lOpA)

577
Who knows. THey act like they could get hurt by conventional means yet when, for example, Captain America is blown out of a fourth story window by an explosion and lands on his head on an armored car and then rag-dolls to the ground, he's only unconscious for 15 seconds.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:46 PM (8rNrN)

------------------

I believe the first Captain America covered the fact that he could recovery from injury at a much faster rate than a normal human being.

Granted, being blown out of a 4 floor window doesn't square all that well with rapid injury recovery, but, I don't think the issue was completely ignored.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (qC1Sy)

578 572 How about an all girl reboot of Bridge over the River Kwai?
---------------------
Never happen - they'd all be pulling a Japanese train in a Rangoon Pleasure Battalion.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (2LelM)

579 564
Wanna bet Trump is already awake for the summit?

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (Enq6K)
It's 4am in Singapore so pretty sure he is up or getting up already..

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (a0IVu)

580 I guess this has nothing to do with anything, but i just thought of how Beowulf doesn't really have an "origin" story, but contains it's own "end" story. And a lot of old literature did as well.

Nobody cared about "origin", they cared about who you were and what you did, and often what you sacrificed. "How did he/she meet his/her end?" was more often the hot question about a fictional or mythical character.

Don't know what that says about anything in general, it's just amusing that the focus seems so heavy on origin stories for fictional characters.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (AURKQ)

581 How do they account for their crap overseas sales if it's toxic white American males torpedoing the film?

Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (yL25O)

582 555
I don't understand The Death Star. The point of a galactic empire would
be ruling planets. How is it useful to destroy them? It's self
defeating. It'd be like nuking everywhere to rule the world. Star Wars
has maybe sucked all along on some level.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 11, 2018 03:53 PM (LgxQn)

This----

And----
Take a star destroyer from about three light years away. Aim it at the death star, and engorge (funny spell check so gonna leave it) hyper drive.

I call this the wammy kablammy defense. You can't tell me that many metric shit tons of shit tons of mass at hyper speed wouldn't crunch any shielding they could generate.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (ymnmz)

583 OT - Singapore's PM surprised PDT with a birthday cake at their lunch meeting..early birthday celebrations. A nice gesture.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

That *was* really nice. Extremely thoughtful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 03:59 PM (rp9xB)

584 >>>
Granted, being blown out of a 4 floor window doesn't square all that well with rapid injury recovery, but, I don't think the issue was completely ignored.

the header into the armored car was gnarly and seems like it would have killed him. And I don't know how rapidly you could heal a severed C2.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:59 PM (8rNrN)

585 I think Trump's plan is to get Kim all high on Diet Coke and then pounce.

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:59 PM (2LelM)

586 I wonder if these asshats know that every artist and performer ever, and every famous person, has been criticized? Oh but you can't criticize them because of what, Gay Black Democratium? Fuck them. Fucking snowflakes.

Posted by: Mega at June 11, 2018 03:59 PM (7jsGy)

587 What's all this talk about Mushroom Grooming gangs?

Oh! never mind.

Posted by: Emily Litella at June 11, 2018 04:00 PM (37IEG)

588 I would hope any decent father wouldn't let his daughter get anywhere near a Muslim grooming gang.

Well presumably he's out of town when this happens, or its a divorce and the wife wasn't paying attention like she should.

Granted, being blown out of a 4 floor window doesn't square all that well with rapid injury recovery, but, I don't think the issue was completely ignored.

Most of the damage was absorbed by the shield BUT... the shield supposedly absorbs damage done to it and doesn't go anywhere. Until that scene.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:00 PM (39g3+)

589 Time for more ShoeOnHead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZd-xcwX3Wo

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 11, 2018 04:00 PM (EyPfd)

590 and the population always includes angry self-entitled bigots.
...
since their ideas are backward, hateful, and devoid of merit in the first place. If you scream in anger about seeing other people represented, if you harass and insult and threaten marginalized people for daring to exist

These angry, bigoted, hate-filled, unmerited screamers are from the LBGTQ community, right?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 11, 2018 04:00 PM (X8DLV)

591 570
It never ceases to amaze me that movie makers completely ignore the
immensely popular romance novel formula. This is also used in most
werewolf, vampire, science fiction books. There is a strong, virile
alpha male who sets out to protect the female protagonist who turns out
to be feisty, able, smart and clever who demands to be a partner in the
action. They then proceed to fall in love after much sexual tension and
escaping, running,battling,and destroying the bad guys.
So, women
want to see a great male body(ideally shirtless) who has all the money
in the world due to amazing success in life and strong protective
instincts as well as the skill to deal with bad guys. And, men want to
see beautiful women in scanty clothing falling into bed with said hero.
Therefore something for both sexes.

Posted by: Sharon at June 11, 2018 03:56 PM (QzF6i)

I'm in!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 11, 2018 04:00 PM (ymnmz)

592 584 >>>
Granted, being blown out of a 4 floor window doesn't square all that well with rapid injury recovery, but, I don't think the issue was completely ignored.

the header into the armored car was gnarly and seems like it would have killed him. And I don't know how rapidly you could heal a severed C2.
Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:59 PM (8rNrN)

The Cap stuff I can get behind because they tried to give an explanation.

Black Widow can seemingly take any sort of beating and be perfectly fine, and she has no superpowers at all.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 11, 2018 04:01 PM (72PAC)

593 577
Who knows. THey act like they could get hurt by conventional means yet when, for example, Captain America is blown out of a fourth story window by an explosion and lands on his head on an armored car and then rag-dolls to the ground, he's only unconscious for 15 seconds.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:46 PM (8rNrN)

------------------

I believe the first Captain America covered the fact that he could recovery from injury at a much faster rate than a normal human being.

Granted, being blown out of a 4 floor window doesn't square all that well with rapid injury recovery, but, I don't think the issue was completely ignored.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 11, 2018 03:57 PM (qC1Sy)

...

or jumping out of planes with no parachute.

Recovering from injury is one thing. Recovery from what would be totally unsurvivable in real life is another.

But the female general in Black Panther was also able to do crap like that and she was apparently just a really buff woman.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:01 PM (yL25O)

594 >>>
Most of the damage was absorbed by the shield BUT... the shield supposedly absorbs damage done to it and doesn't go anywhere. Until that scene.

he didn't use the shield on that fall. He used it to protect from the blast, but didn't use it to stop the fall.

also, if the shield "absorbs all vibrations" (concussive force, I assume), why does it hurt people when he throws it at people?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 04:01 PM (8rNrN)

595 Wanna bet Trump is already awake for the summit?

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (Enq6K)

Does the man ever sleep? I suspect part of the issue with his many marriages was just wearing his wives out with the constant go-go-go. I'm sure his mind is fascinating, and his wallet didn't hurt, but the entire package must be exhausting.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 04:02 PM (rp9xB)

596 Remember, Gal Gadot is a proud Zionist, an IDF vet, and knows that the SJW left is viciously anti-Israel.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (5czEb)

597 UH--

--WHAT'S THE REASON SOLO TANKED SO HARD IN CHINA?

Don't tell me the Chinese are Secret Klansmen!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (oVJmc)

598 The truth is, action movies have gotten into patterns where they have their heroes suffer unsurvivable damage regularly then get up and keep fighting. I mean, how many times was Brendon Frasier's character killed in The Mummy? Remember Spider-Man falling onto the car in the first Sam Raimi movie? Iron Man falling 800 feet head first into the sand in the first film?

Its become kind of a trope now, with your hero taking hits that would murder anyone, and shaking them off after the camera cuts away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (39g3+)

599
Does the man ever sleep? I suspect part of the issue with his many marriages was just wearing his wives out with the constant go-go-go. I'm sure his mind is fascinating, and his wallet didn't hurt, but the entire package must be exhausting.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 04:02 PM (rp9xB)

Wow. So much "phrasing"....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (AURKQ)

600 "marginalized people for daring to exist"

meaning, for daring to seduce your 13 year old kid.

they just want to live out their lives as ....

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (5C+G3)

601 also, if the shield "absorbs all vibrations" (concussive force, I assume), why does it hurt people when he throws it at people?

The same reason advanced laser weaponry in the Empire couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Physics is hard, and screenplay writing isn't.

Posted by: Roy at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (7n4KQ)

602 The proposed title, "Any 12 Women" may need some polishing.
Posted by: Blue Hen

And the sequel Any 12 Women: That time of the month

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (Bdeb0)

603 579
564

Wanna bet Trump is already awake for the summit?

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 03:54 PM (Enq6K)
It's 4am in Singapore so pretty sure he is up or getting up already..

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (a0IVu)

I have already performed three separate distillations of Lil Kim's massive turds we extracted from his port -o-let.

And let me tell you, we have got him right where we want him. Just a little bit constipated, so we know he's full of .....

Posted by: President Richard Punch at June 11, 2018 04:04 PM (ymnmz)

604 500 Meanwhile what @#$%^*( let the key drop out of the lawnmower pulley shaft.

now i'm picturing a lawnmower blade flying all around the yard like when Gigabyte got its top taken off by Tombstone in Battlebots last week.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 04:04 PM (xGZ+b)

605 Don't tell me the Chinese are Secret Klansmen!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (oVJmc)

Not the Kran, the KRAN!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 04:04 PM (AURKQ)

606 It's too bad "Solo" has poor box office thanks to TLJ. My wife and I (both Trump supporters) enjoyed "Solo" much more than TLJ (and TFA, in my case).

Get woke, go broke.

Posted by: Calvin Dodge at June 11, 2018 04:04 PM (1Blh9)

607 Superheroes heal at rates that match the scene's requirements.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 11, 2018 04:04 PM (TQ+cE)

608 602
The proposed title, "Any 12 Women" may need some polishing.

Posted by: Blue Hen

And the sequel Any 12 Women: That time of the month

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (Bdeb0)

I'm in.

Posted by: Marcy Darcy at June 11, 2018 04:04 PM (ymnmz)

609 also, if the shield "absorbs all vibrations" (concussive force, I assume), why does it hurt people when he throws it at people?

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 04:01 PM (8rNrN)

...

When you start with writers whose understanding of physics includes conflation of force and vibration, there's not a lot of hope.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:05 PM (yL25O)

610 Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (AURKQ)

I don't worry about phrasing. The combination of the Horde and the nature of the English language means the only way to avoid phrasing issues is to remain mute.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 04:05 PM (rp9xB)

611 I saw Coordinated Troll Attack open for Incel Schmucks at the Chicago Amphitheater in 1981.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 11, 2018 04:05 PM (8iiMU)

612 RE: "We're America, bitch!" as a bad thing (from the sidebar)

I have completely lost patience with my neighbors and colleagues (and I work for a very multi-cultural, foreign-owned company, so make your own conclusions) who believe, as the editors of The Atlantic evidently do, that the USA has an obligation only to ourselves (first) and our allies (second) and not to The World.

I am surrounded by people who want us to look like everywhere else on the planet and, as I have no fvcks left to give, I've decided to respond along the lines of, "Well swell, do me a favor - get the fuck out. Leave. Don't let the barn door hit you on the way. You have the rest of the world to chose from - how about you go there rather than fuck-up the one place on Earth where people like me don't feel like total aliens from another time and place? Leave. Go. Now."

Makes me a real hit at parties.

Posted by: DocJ at June 11, 2018 04:06 PM (NYS7S)

613 The proposed title, "Any 12 Women" may need some polishing.
Posted by: Blue Hen

And the sequel Any 12 Women: That time of the month
Posted by: wrg500

First, they were SUMMONED.

Then they were SEQUESTERED.

And then....They SYNCHRONIZED!!!

Be afraid....and in another state.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 11, 2018 04:06 PM (GYX1g)

614 These guys really don't get it. We don't mind more characters in the SW 'Verse. No one got pissed at the strong women in Rogue One or Rebels. No, the problem is that you trashed the core of the franchise with a nothing Mary Sue in order to massage your own SJW egos. You let your coolest character get killed off by a Harry Potter reject villain in order to fulfill your fantasy of stomping on cool maleness. (And who really believes that THAT would be the product of a Solo/Leia union? They couldn't get the Eastwood kid or get him for Soylo?). People aren't pissed at diversity, they're pissed at poor storytelling! We're supposed to believe Mary Sue Rey can beat a trained Force user the very first time she picks up a lightsaber? Without a scratch? Even the Chosen One got his hand chopped off the first time he met a sith, and he was trained for years. To say nothing of his son, who also got de-handed after being trained by the greatest Jedi of all.
We want good (for SW anyway) storytelling. We want Character arcs respected. We don't want SJW lectures. We want consistency in the SW universe.

Posted by: Iblis at June 11, 2018 04:06 PM (9221z)

615 583 OT - Singapore's PM surprised PDT with a birthday cake at their lunch meeting..early birthday celebrations. A nice gesture.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 03:42 PM (a0IVu)

That *was* really nice. Extremely thoughtful.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 11, 2018 03:59 PM (rp9xB)

Singaporeans are very gracious.

Just don't try to get ahead of them on the road....hoooboy...look out.

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (Enq6K)

616 If the all powerful angry white male is responsible for a delta of +/- 400 million in ticket sales, I'm gonna write my movies for angry white males.

Especially when the overseas box office is fine with it as long as there are some foreign locations and lots of explosions.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (yL25O)

617 he didn't use the shield on that fall. He used it to protect from the blast, but didn't use it to stop the fall.

Yeah I meant the blast, the falling damage was all on him. I mean yeah he has body armor and he is much tougher than an ordinary person but there are limits.

also, if the shield "absorbs all vibrations" (concussive force, I assume), why does it hurt people when he throws it at people?

According to the comic books, its only front on that it absorbs damage, the edge doesn't have that property.

Then he bashes people with it head on so... who the hell knows.

Cap is the most visually excellent character to bring to the screen though. Very dynamic and memorable, very iconic, and the shield is super cool to watch him fight with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (39g3+)

618 593 But the female general in Black Panther was also able to do crap like that and she was apparently just a really buff woman.

still haven't figured out whether wakanda is a chilly country or whether their uniform tailor has interesting ideas about making darts.

maybe i should go see infinity wars again to collect more data...

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (xGZ+b)

619 526
James Woods @RealJamesWoods

Your old boss would bow to a fire hydrant. Don't talk about surrendering global leadership. In fact don't talk at all.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 11, 2018 03:47 PM (fceHP)

Awesome.

Posted by: rickl at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (xjiRE)

620 And----
Take a star destroyer from about three light years away. Aim it at the death star, and engorge (funny spell check so gonna leave it) hyper drive.

I call this the wammy kablammy defense. You can't tell me that many metric shit tons of shit tons of mass at hyper speed wouldn't crunch any shielding they could generate.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (ymnmz)

And... why even build a Death Star in the first place???

Want a planet messed up? Grab a few asteroids with your Destroyers, aim them at the planet.... release...

Blammo!

Posted by: Don Q at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (NgKpN)

621 >>>According to the comic books, its only front on that it absorbs damage, the edge doesn't have that property.

I think I've seen him bash people with the front of the shield, too.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 04:08 PM (8rNrN)

622 @573

Star Wars IX will do away with the traditional title card/crawl and instead Kathleen Kennedy will give the middle finger to the audience for a full five minutes.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 11, 2018 04:08 PM (UfMVm)

623 Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:01 PM (yL25O)

---------

Oh, I'm not claiming the injury issue was perfectly covered but, CA wasn't so poorly written the issue wasn't addressed at all.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 11, 2018 04:08 PM (qC1Sy)

624 The durability factor is definitely a constantly moving target for superheroes.

It is for non-superheroes also, Mike Tyson in his prime couldn't take hits like geriatric Liam Neeson does in these movies.

A solid punch from a hand in a boxing glove can knock
a prize fighter out cold, what do you think a bat to the head is going to do?

Makes it more fun to watch though, real fights go quick.

Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (lKmt3)

625 I seriously question the sanity of people who think a viable strategy to get more people to see their movie is to insult the people who might possibly be interested in seeing it. I mean, I was on the fence before about seeing Soylo, but now, with all this, there's no way I'm plunking down another dollar on a Star (Justice) Wars franchise movie.
And- if they're trying to create a narrative about why it failed- the REAL question is "Why Bother"? To save their miserable jobs? No one in a few years is going to bother to check their drivel- they're just going to let the losses speak for themselves.

Posted by: Joe Wagner at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (F7aVA)

626 Just don't try to get ahead of them on the road....hoooboy...look out.

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 04:07 PM (Enq6K)
I am ashamed to admit it but I suffer the same tendencies..though I try not to give in to them. I blame it on my asian heritage.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (a0IVu)

627 lawnmower blade flying all around the yard

I just sharpened it too.

Posted by: DaveA at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (FhXTo)

628 Imperial Tech: "I'm thinking of developing a targeting system for the mounted weapons systems, you know, to increase our probability to hit."

Imperial Tech Lead: "Now you're just being stupid, who'd ever use something like that in the first place."

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (37IEG)

629 If the all powerful angry white male is responsible for a delta of +/- 400 million in ticket sales, I'm gonna write my movies for angry white males.

Yeah we're so powerful we affect the Chinese market!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (39g3+)

630 613 The proposed title, "Any 12 Women" may need some polishing.
Posted by: Blue Hen

And the sequel Any 12 Women: That time of the month
Posted by: wrg500

First, they were SUMMONED.

Then they were SEQUESTERED.

And then....They SYNCHRONIZED!!!

Be afraid....and in another state.
Posted by: Blue Hen

Why I went to Egypt for a year. Wife was in menopause daughter puberty. WAY to many hormones.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 11, 2018 04:10 PM (Bdeb0)

631 nood april ryan..

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 04:10 PM (a0IVu)

632 A friend's daughter saw the movie and liked it. Another review from someone on the right gave it a thumbs up. I figured I'd get to it later. But now that I know my toxic, bigoted money isn't welcome, I'll just skip it.

Posted by: Jill v2 at June 11, 2018 04:10 PM (ct8HZ)

633 You could remake the Silence of the Lambs but have a pit full of SJW chicks being culled by Fag Fashion Designers in NYC making handbags and shoes out of their skins.
Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 11, 2018 03:48 PM (2LelM)

========

Several years ago, there was a "naked gun" style parody movie called Violence of the Hams, with the role of detective as "Joe D. Foster".

I think it's time to maybe to a serious remake of Silence of the Lambs with a male character in the Starling role, just to see how the SJWs react. Or maybe 48 hours, with a white guy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 11, 2018 04:11 PM (/qEW2)

634 623 Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:01 PM (yL25O)

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Oh, I'm not claiming the injury issue was perfectly covered but, CA wasn't so poorly written the issue wasn't addressed at all.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 11, 2018 04:08 PM (qC1Sy)

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I know. Him HALO jumping without the LO part was just stupid imho.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:11 PM (yL25O)

635 nood

Posted by: LGoPs at June 11, 2018 04:11 PM (FWsqf)

636 Big-mouthed Melissa Francis is part of the wall to wall North Korea summit o Fox Business.

She is talking to Inhofe now, basically babbling about whatever comes into their heads.

It gets a little tiring, but, actually, to quote Joey Choo Choo, this is a big fvcking deal....

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 11, 2018 04:11 PM (8iiMU)

637 Unrelated to SJWars, but is there such a thing as a "Singaporean", outside of political designation?

Or do they all just call themselves Malay, or Chinese, or whatever they happen to be?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 11, 2018 04:12 PM (AURKQ)

638 622
@573

Star Wars IX will do away with the traditional title card/crawl and
instead Kathleen Kennedy will give the middle finger to the audience for
a full five minutes.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 11, 2018 04:08 PM (UfMVm)

LOL

Star Wars 9, the Degradation of Chewbacca.

What fresh hell does Kennedy have to ruin that last beloved character of the Franchise?

Make it so "Male Wookans" can get pregnant?

Posted by: Marcy Darcy at June 11, 2018 04:12 PM (ymnmz)

639 Marcy Darcy sock off

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 04:13 PM (ymnmz)

640 The truth is, action movies have gotten into
patterns where they have their heroes suffer unsurvivable damage
regularly then get up and keep fighting. I mean, how many times was
Brendon Frasier's character killed in The Mummy? Remember Spider-Man
falling onto the car in the first Sam Raimi movie? Iron Man falling 800
feet head first into the sand in the first film?

Its become kind of a trope now, with your hero taking hits that
would murder anyone, and shaking them off after the camera cuts away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:03 PM (39g3+)

On that note, I watched the movie, The Raid this weekend. Talk about your gloriously unrealistic, unrelenting action that SHOULD kill anyone engaged in it.

But I loved it!

It was so over the top, and the amazing thing was, the actors doing all the action scenes, without any apparent break. Granted, they weren't really hitting one another, but the choreography of the fights... seriously, if you haven't seen this movie, and you like action, you should treat yourself.

Yes,it's Indonesian, dubbed into English, but good gosh darnit, that does NOT matter one whit.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 11, 2018 04:13 PM (9chmE)

641 I am ashamed to admit it but I suffer the same tendencies..though I try not to give in to them. I blame it on my asian heritage.

Posted by: IC at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (a0IVu)

They take their lane in the middle....always. At stop lights, all the mopeds on the road (and there are a ton) will swarm around your car to get in front of you.

Most young children of expats learn to swear while in the car with their moms.

Posted by: Tami at June 11, 2018 04:13 PM (Enq6K)

642 It is for non-superheroes also, Mike Tyson in his prime couldn't take hits like geriatric Liam Neeson does in these movies.

A solid punch from a hand in a boxing glove can knock
a prize fighter out cold, what do you think a bat to the head is going to do?

Makes it more fun to watch though, real fights go quick.
Posted by: Maritime at June 11, 2018 04:09 PM (lKmt3)

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Also, every punch is a telegraphed haymaker that takes three full seconds to execute, but the last time anyone dodged a punch in an action movie is never.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 11, 2018 04:13 PM (yL25O)

643 It is for non-superheroes also, Mike Tyson in his prime couldn't take hits like geriatric Liam Neeson does in these movies.

The first film I saw like that was Die Hard, where Bruce Willis punches Alexander Gudonov like 18 times, then crashes his head into an iron pipe and proceeds to punch him 18 more times with his head against the pipe. At this point he should be picking bone pieces and brains out of his fist.

Then he wraps Alexander's neck in a chain and hangs him. Minutes later, we see him still hanging limply from the chain as the terrified civilians run by. And yet somehow he's still alive at the end???

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

644 536 We went into a fast food restaurant and there was a large dude with headphones on singing rather loudly "Money for Nothing" but only managed to repeat "we gotta move these refrigerators....we gotta move these color TV's" every 30 seconds or so.

this is why i steal russian pop songs from youtube; when i'm sitting in denny's belting out "i vsyo kak v detstvye" at the top of my lungs, no one can tell me i'm doing it wrong.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 04:14 PM (xGZ+b)

645 What about Spiderman, Captain America, and Wonder Woman? Clearly they are much, much stronger than average people. Are their muscles a kind of half-armor, due to being so dense?

Who knows. THey act like they could get hurt by conventional means yet when, for example, Captain America is blown out of a fourth story window by an explosion and lands on his head on an armored car and then rag-dolls to the ground, he's only unconscious for 15 seconds.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2018 03:46 PM (8rNrN)

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I always wonder the same thing whenever Tony Stark is tossed around inside The Suit.

Sure, The Suit is made out of materials that can withstand the abuse, but he's still along for the ride inside, and it looks like there is precious little padding on the interior.

The Suit, Captain's Shield, whatever else gets made out of Wakandan Awesometal, sure, the stuff can "absorb all vibrations." Physics still mandates that the energy goes somewhere.

Heat? OK. So Captain's Shield would eventually get too hot to hold.

In general, though, I think the mystery of where the lines are drawn between vulternable and impervious is what keeps the audience engaged. Whoa, they weren't fazed by that! Oh no, this looks like it really hurt them. You're never sure, so you're never going to look away.

Unfortunately, this is why adults can never go back to storylines they enjoyed as a child. We expect consistent results. And we passed high school science.

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2018 04:14 PM (l2max)

646 Take a star destroyer from about three light years away. Aim it at the death star, and engorge (funny spell check so gonna leave it) hyper drive.

I call this the wammy kablammy defense. You can't tell me that many metric shit tons of shit tons of mass at hyper speed wouldn't crunch any shielding they could generate.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 11, 2018 03:58 PM (ymnmz)

And... why even build a Death Star in the first place???

Want a planet messed up? Grab a few asteroids with your Destroyers, aim them at the planet.... release...

Blammo!
Posted by: Don Q

Or when a rebel fleet is fleeing at impulse speed; you hyperjump ahead of them a few minutes.

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2018 04:16 PM (MS0+a)

647 >Then he wraps Alexander's neck in a chain and hangs him. Minutes later, we see him still hanging limply from the chain as the terrified civilians run by. And yet somehow he's still alive at the end???
Its good to be the Bad Guy.....

Posted by: Joe Wagner at June 11, 2018 04:16 PM (F7aVA)

648 And yet somehow he's still alive at the end???

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You can survive anything if you're Gudonov.

Posted by: reason at June 11, 2018 04:17 PM (l2max)

649 Or when a rebel fleet is fleeing at impulse speed; you hyperjump ahead of them a few minutes.
Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2018 04:16 PM (MS0+a)

That whole sequence was so forced, and all to make Admiral Purple Dye look like a real leader.
And the sad thing is, as others have noted, if she just had the line "We've got a spy aboard, and I can't reveal my plan until we find him" could have solved a bunch of problems with that subplot.
Of course then Flynn couldn't have had his interstellar Casino Royale, and saved the space horses while letting the actual human slave children stay enslaved.
Yeah, on second thought, there was no saving that movie.

Posted by: Iblis at June 11, 2018 04:21 PM (9221z)

650 649 That whole sequence was so forced, and all to make Admiral Purple Dye look like a real leader.

because real leaders never tell anyone what the plan is. or whether there is, in fact, a plan.

And the sad thing is, as others have noted, if she just had the line "We've got a spy aboard, and I can't reveal my plan until we find him" could have solved a bunch of problems with that subplot.

heck, they could have just had her say "i have a cunning plan" like baldrick.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 11, 2018 04:25 PM (NmR1a)

651 A whole lot of words expended to argue that no, people aren't entitled to their own opinions. SJWs in a nutshell really.

Posted by: Javier at June 11, 2018 04:27 PM (M4N8y)

652 Movies are not supposed to be realistic. You know...suspend disbelief

Posted by: Sharon at June 11, 2018 04:30 PM (QzF6i)

653 ron Howard is mechanically adequate as a director but has no artistic signature style,

Posted by: Avi at June 11, 2018 04:32 PM (wA4B4)

654 Right, you don't necessarily want realism, but you want believability, unless you're doing a cartoon. If there's no plausibility, there's no tension.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

655

Do these strange ideas emanate from the fiery cauldrons in our places of learning?

I remember there being a big push to study "white trash". The douches loved looking at hicks and laughing. It was around that time humor started to be sucked out of everything, and replaced with scat, piss and meanness. There was one comic in particular that wore a trucker hat, had a big dumb beard and looked like an idiot with big glasses. he was unfunny.

SJWs will not stop, ever.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at June 11, 2018 04:44 PM (g55Q1)

656 Shocking. Typical Star Wars basement dwelling nerds act like typical Star Wars basement dwelling nerds. Maybe Allahpundit will come to their white knight soy infused rescue.

Posted by: DA at June 11, 2018 04:48 PM (LrlYg)

657 "650 649 That whole sequence was so forced, and all to make Admiral Purple Dye look like a real leader.

because real leaders never tell anyone what the plan is. or whether there is, in fact, a plan. "

Honestly, I think these people all voted for Hillary, and to them, this IS what a leader does. It's typical girl-think, dating all the way back to passing notes in school. "If it's important, it has to be a SECRET!"

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 11, 2018 06:23 PM (fL4WD)

658 One of the greatest movie caricature of all time and some how they fucked it up.

Posted by: renowebb at June 11, 2018 08:34 PM (irc3O)

659 Disney is for girls. I thought everyone knew that. They don't want us. So goodbye.

Posted by: C. Moss at June 12, 2018 08:46 PM (/bP87)

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