1968 [KT]

Well, 1968 was 50 years ago. You can't say it wasn't a tumultuous year. The last link in J.J. Sefton's 5/30/18 Morning Report was a piece by Roger Kimball, The Long March: Reckoning with 1968's "Cultural Revolution" 50 Years On. I think it deserves more attention. It is dense with information. You may not agree with all his positions.

I also ran across a couple of other items related to 1968.

Roger Kimball

One of the things that has surprised me since the last presidential election is that Roger Kimball, that guy who wears bow ties, uses big words and advocates for standards and traditions, seems to take delight in several aspects of the Trump presidency. Maybe that's partly because nearly 20 years ago he wrote The Long March: How the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s Changed America. Trump has made the final few steps of that long march a bit more challenging. Here are some of the things that disturb Kimball about the Left's campaign to transform America:

Apocalyptic rhetoric notwithstanding, the behavior of the "revolutionaries" of the counterculture consistently exhibited that most common of bourgeois passions, anti-bourgeois animus -- expressed, as always, safely within the swaddling clothes of bourgeois security.

If America's cultural revolution was anything, it was an attack on maturity: more, it was a glorification of youth, of immaturity. As the Yippie leader Jerry Rubin put it: "We're permanent adolescents." The real victory of the "youth culture" of the Sixties lay not in the fact that its demands were met but in the fact that its values and attitudes were adopted by the culture at large. Rubin again: "Satisfy our demands, and we've got twelve more. The more demands you satisfy, the more we got." Everywhere one looks one sees the elevation of youth -- that is to say, of immaturity -- over experience.

So, are blue jeans on old people a sign that we have abandoned maturity?

The grisly political history of the recent past also reminds us of the extent to which the totalitarian impulse appeals to liberation in its effort to expunge genuine liberty. Again and again we have seen the promise of liberation dissolve into outright tyranny. The totalitarian impulse occupies a prominent place in most revolutionary movements, cultural as well as political. . .
It is a neat trick. Words like "freedom" and "virtue" were ever on Rousseau's lips. But freedom for him was a chilly abstraction; it applied to mankind as an idea, not to individual men. "I think I know man," Rousseau sadly observed near the end of his life, "but as for men, I know them not." In the Confessions, he claimed to be "drunk on virtue." And indeed, it turned out that "virtue" for Rousseau had nothing to do with acting or behaving in a certain way toward others. On the contrary, the criterion of virtue was his subjective feeling of goodness. For Rousseau, as for the countercultural radicals who followed him, "feeling good about yourself" was synonymous with moral rectitude. . .

Perhaps this helps explain why Hillary Clinton will always be the Pride of Radcliffe.

Michael Walsh

I ran across a piece by another professional critic that makes reference to this period of history. It's an adaptation taken from Michael Walsh's book, The Devil's Pleasure Palace, called The Eternal Feminine, on Faust, the Frankfurt School and the Elemental Power of Sex. It kind of seemed like an excerpt to me, but he made some interesting points. Walsh points out that, although the groundwork was laid over a an extended period, the primary large-scale changes in culture during the cultural revolution took place over a remarkably short period of time. Around 1968.

Here's a little bit from the piece about the importance of the family unit and the relationship between a man and a woman:

Critical Theory attacked all of this, principally the idea of transcendence. Not every sex act has larger meaning, of course, but the goal of Critical Theory was to reduce human beings to the level of animals ("If it feels good, do it") and to deny the transcendent component that had driven creative artists for centuries. . . . But Marcuse knew that a populace engaged in pointless sexual intercourse was a populace uninterested in much of anything else; thus "polymorphous perversity" weakens the foundations of the society he sought to undermine.
Again, we must use the word "satanic," which, rightly defined, means the desire to tear down a longstanding, even elemental, order in order to replace it with...nothing. . . .

I'm guessing that Walsh has an alternative in mind in the rest of the book. Because the place the Left leaves us here is pretty grim.

1968 in France

When I was looking for material, a search for "May 1968" brought up a bunch of links about France before anything about the USA. I was sort of aware of strikes in France in my youth, but I didn't really remember much about a May 1968 social revolution in Paris. From the Irish Times, about one of the student leaders:

Clearly, May 1968 generated a whopping vanity in Cohn-Bendit, who ultimately became a Green Party MEP: "I'm loved in France. As an embodiment of 1968, I have become part of the French DNA . . . I have become the psychoanalyst of the French."
Beyond his messianic tendencies, he is, however, conscious of how complex movements can, with time, be simplified both by participants and their traducers: the notion that the 1968 dissidents began a process of undermining the church, education, patriotism and the family is "just as absurd as the whole revolutionary myth" (former French president Nicolas Sarkozy has been fond of calling for the "liquidation" of the 1968 legacy).

Wow. "The 1968 legacy?"

The New York Times piece on the French uprising is quite nostalgic, declaring that May of 1968 pushed France into the modern world. One photo features the images of Marx, Lenin, Mao and Trotsky (I think) at a Paris University. That's the way to introduce France into the modern world of mass murder, perhaps? Maybe it's a good thing that the U.S. military was still in the neighborhood.

So, do you have memories from or musings about 1968?

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1 El firsto?

Posted by: Wrasel at June 02, 2018 11:09 AM (MVjcR)

2 Nic fail

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:10 AM (MVjcR)

3 The Wrasslin' Weasel!

Posted by: hogmartin at June 02, 2018 11:12 AM (fZuhk)

4 Hello? Hello?
Operator!

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:12 AM (MVjcR)

5 Hi, everybody.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at June 02, 2018 11:13 AM (BVQ+1)

6 So, do you have memories from or musings about 1968?

No memories, but all of that 60s shit was part of the commie agenda to take over the country from within. The only good commie is taking a quick helicopter ride

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 11:14 AM (SiINZ)

7 My typing finger has failed me.

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:14 AM (MVjcR)

8 1968 was the Year of the Pitcher, and Bob Gibson was the pitcher of the year.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:14 AM (cY3LT)

9 1968 was the Year of the Pitcher, and Bob Gibson was the pitcher of the year.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:14 AM (cY3LT)

2008 was the year of the catcher and we ended up with Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 11:15 AM (SiINZ)

10 That's rayciss.

Or something. 'Cause it's a white actress.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:15 AM (7LY+6)

11 Glad to see Valerie Jarrett has been spotted outside her DC home owned by the Obamas. I don't understand why Muppets need all that Secret Service security protection though.

Posted by: Pickles at June 02, 2018 11:15 AM (72spU)

12
How the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s ~~Changed~~ Destroyed America.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 11:17 AM (SiINZ)

13 Yep, that's Bronstein/Trotsky. The least awful of the Commies IMO.

I always thought Jonah Goldberg looked a little like Leon when he had that soul patch thing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 11:18 AM (qJtVm)

14 Here's a pretty good post on Free Bacon-

about Oblabla's "What if we got it wrong?" fairy tale:

http://freebeacon.com/columns/the-world-as-it-wasnt/

It's a bit soft (Hey, it's Free Bacon, yo!) but right on target.

And nicely links to what's going on in the rest of the Western world.

Ends on a sour note pointing out how well Obama has been paid for his efforts to destroy America and the Middle Class.

Well worth the read.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2018 11:18 AM (9q7Dl)

15 I read one of Gibson's biographies recently, the one that would delve into race relations... to a point. I think he danced around this subject more than I would have liked.

I talked of it in general terms, how white pitchers were doing some of the same things he was (pitching inside), but he was the one with the reputation as mean. He believes, in spite of being out of this world that year, he didn't get the same endorsement deals as white pitchers like Drysdale and Denny McClain.

I don't fault him for not talking more of the race riots of that year, because he was focusing on his profession, more than the social unrest.

Gibson is a bright man. One of the handful of men I would pay good money to sit down and converse with. He's had a helluva life, and I wish we as a culture spent more time emulating men like Bob Gibson, and less those shithole politicians and Hollowwood sex fiends.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:18 AM (cY3LT)

16 I was 4 in 1968. We lived in an apartment in a Greek-Italian community on the southish side of Chicago. I remember how everyone knew everyone. Lots of little good memories.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 02, 2018 11:19 AM (DAdSz)

17 Top song 1968 "Hey Jude".

Me aND Beth, making out in the back of mom's Galaxy.

Posted by: Redenzo at June 02, 2018 11:19 AM (14qvS)

18 Carryover from willowy end of last thread (justified on-topic by PotA pic and link up top):

What if Roseanne had instead used "Planet of the Ferrets"?

Posted by: mindful webworker - in deep contemplation at June 02, 2018 11:19 AM (uDclo)

19 Dammit, this is meaty stuff today! (I'm including the Motte and Bailey from the previous thread).

Remember Sunday papers? That's how girthy AoS has been today.

Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2018 11:19 AM (c/EDo)

20 So, is it okay now to trust people over thirty because it was said in 1968 that is wasn't but now all those that said it are now 65 or older.

Posted by: Mary Ann Miller at June 02, 2018 11:22 AM (6Tvnv)

21 What if Roseanne had instead used "Planet of the Ferrets"?"

Still rayciss...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:22 AM (7LY+6)

22 "One photo features the images of Marx, Lenin, Mao and Trotsky (I think) at a Paris University. That's the way to introduce France into the modern world of mass murder, perhaps?"

Naw, that introduction happened with Robespierre.

Jim

PS: Yep, that was Trotsky.

Posted by: Jim at June 02, 2018 11:22 AM (rnwV8)

23 I was watching Captain Kangeroo in 1968. And the Reagan years allowed me to be complacent and ignore culture and politics. That was not Reagan's intent of course, but the economy roared back after the Carter doldrums and then coasted for a good while in spite of Bush, Clinton and Bush. Took 2008 and the the horror of a coworker when McCain was going to win the primaries to get me looking for information and deciding I had to be involved before November cuz candidate choices sucked.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at June 02, 2018 11:22 AM (r4KP2)

24 Well, being only 29 I don't have any memories of 1968.... but it sure sounds like it was fun!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 02, 2018 11:22 AM (5AVMW)

25 My only memories of 1968 is that I was no longer the only child in my house, as now I had a brother and sister. And a house with a rock ledge in the backyard where I could play with my Tonka truck with the horse trailer.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2018 11:23 AM (Mkuv2)

26 Is that photo from one of the recent ape reboots. Doesn't look like the 1968 makeup.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 11:24 AM (IqV8l)

27 I was about nine in 1968, and I just remembered how grim my parents seemed watching the TV every night... the assassinations, weekly Vietnam casualties, the cities burning, the riots... grim year indeed. About the only good thing was Apollo 8.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at June 02, 2018 11:24 AM (Gs5TH)

28 In May 1968 I had one year of high school left.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 11:25 AM (IqV8l)

29 "I'm loved in France. As an embodiment of 1968, I have become part of
the French DNA . . . I have become the psychoanalyst of the French."

He sounds like the French John Fn Kerry.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 11:26 AM (O5Q3r)

30 For you Drudge-o-phobes, check out this picture of Johnny AIDS.

https://dailym.ai/2J5GpxX

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)

31 Carryover from willowy end of last thread (justified on-topic by PotA pic and link up top):

What if Roseanne had instead used "Planet of the Ferrets"?
Posted by: mindful webworker - in deep contemplation at June 02, 2018 11:19 AM (uDclo)

As a thought experiment, I genuinely believe she would not have been fired by ABC/Dinsey.

But she didn't. She compared her to an ape. Which got her fired. For obvious reasons.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)

32 Is that ValJar up top?

Posted by: ccc3po at June 02, 2018 11:27 AM (vKfaB)

33 She compared her to an ape."

No, but keep up that chicken, k?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:27 AM (7LY+6)

34 In 1968, I wouldn't be born for another 12 years.

So, I'll hang up and listen.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 02, 2018 11:27 AM (fZuhk)

35 1968

Began with my father's death just weeks after his 50th birthday. My parents' bad divorce left me in strange circumstances through high school. I watched the world seem to unravel on TV.

I'm still in recovery.

Posted by: mindful webworker - like it was yesterday at June 02, 2018 11:27 AM (uDclo)

36 1968 was my junior year in high school. It was also the year my mom was in a bad car wreck which is why I didn't do all those things people do their senior year. I was in the Bay Area, did go up to the Haight a couple of times and saw a performance of Hair at the ACT. I just think most folks weren't touched by the craziness, although it did change what was acceptable behavior.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 02, 2018 11:28 AM (Lqy/e)

37 It's a madhouse! A madhouse!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 02, 2018 11:29 AM (QLvwG)

38 Since we live in stupid times, I've been meaning to suggest a thread where people talk about the period in history they would,rather have lived in, and why.

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:29 AM (MVjcR)

39 I was a toddler in 1968 and its when my earliest memories that I can still recall were formed: sitting Penuts-style on the living room floor of my uncles house in Orange County CA at a Vietnam homecoming party for my cousin. I'm sitting in front of my uncle's mammoth wood cabinet TV and the thing is three times my size, and all these people tall as trees around me laughing and yelling.

I missed every part of the social unrest.

In 1969 I remember watching TV coverage of one or more Apollo missions but I don't specifically remember if it was 9, 10 or 11.

Posted by: md at June 02, 2018 11:29 AM (L3WnE)

40 Is that photo from one of the recent ape reboots. Doesn't look like the 1968 makeup.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 11:24 AM (IqV8l)

I think that's Helena Bonham Carter, from the lousy movie they made about 10-15 years ago.

The more recent films are actually quite good.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:30 AM (cY3LT)

41 I think the so-called counter culture movement of the 60s was 99% media hype. Where I lived the youths were largely concerned with getting drafted, going to school, and getting a job. The same way youths had been like forever. We had no hippies in middle GA and in actuallity there were very few in CA at Haight-Ashbury. I visited that area when I first went to CA. That area was nothing but bums and winos drinking out of paper bags. And it stunk of stale urine and feces.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 02, 2018 11:30 AM (mpXpK)

42 My typing finger has failed me.

Cialis !

Posted by: JT at June 02, 2018 11:31 AM (lnqp5)

43 1968 sure was a news-packed year, but in our little corner of the world, every day was bright and sunny--as bright and sunny as it would always seem to a 6 year old.....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 11:31 AM (7uYFy)

44 1968. I learned about "these fucking hippies" from my dad.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 11:31 AM (O5Q3r)

45 That area was nothing but bums and winos drinking out of paper bags. And it stunk of stale urine and feces

That was the City Counsel.

Posted by: JT at June 02, 2018 11:32 AM (lnqp5)

46 She compared her to an ape."
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No, but keep up that chicken, k?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:27 AM (7LY+6)

You're being silly, which of course is your right.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:33 AM (cY3LT)

47 Since we live in stupid times, I've been meaning to suggest a thread where people talk about the period in history they would,rather have lived in, and why.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:29 AM (MVjcR)

30 May 2018, because I hadn't yet misplaced my good lighter.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 02, 2018 11:33 AM (fZuhk)

48 1968?

I was 9 years old...

So it was 4th grade math... trying to memorize my times tables... and a Battle Axe Teacher named Fanny Ethel Freeman.

But I grew up in an Air Force Town (B-52s).. so it was friends Father's deploying to Viet Nam.

OH.... and building models of the Lunar Lander for the upcoming Moon Landing in 69...

Hippy shit? I don't remember at all.

Posted by: Don Q at June 02, 2018 11:33 AM (NgKpN)

49 All our social problems are, oddly enough and counter to most of history, because we are too rich. People don't have time for pie in the sky and wishcasting when they are scrabbling for their next meal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Retribution is my Sarah Palin's uterus at June 02, 2018 11:34 AM (yQpMk)

50
30 May 2018, because I hadn't yet misplaced my good lighter.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 02, 2018 11:33 AM (fZuhk)
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Aw, man! Bummer. I'm a zippo man, myself.

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:34 AM (MVjcR)

51 Was backyard camping in 1968. Woke up before dawn. Turned on 9 volt radio. KMOX St Louis. Kennedy has been shot. What? Its 1968. Kennedy was shot 5 years ago. Its was Bobby.

Posted by: PhilDirt at June 02, 2018 11:34 AM (rAUem)

52 Isn't that still from the Markie Mark Planet of the Apes and not the original?

Posted by: Grump928(C) Retribution is my Sarah Palin's uterus at June 02, 2018 11:36 AM (yQpMk)

53 2001 vs 1968

Posted by: Grump928(C) Retribution is my Sarah Palin's uterus at June 02, 2018 11:36 AM (yQpMk)

54 Johnny Depp looks like he's a full-blown junkie now. But he does appear relaxed and friendly and had no issue posing for pictures with staff. So who knows?
Maybe he's getting ready to play Keith Richards in a new movie.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 11:36 AM (7uYFy)

55 Isn't that still from the Markie Mark Planet of the Apes and not the original?
Posted by: Grump928(C) Retribution is my Sarah Palin's uterus at June 02, 2018 11:36 AM (yQpMk)

I think that's Helena Bonham Carter, from the lousy movie they made about 10-15 years ago.

The more recent films are actually quite good.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:30 AM (cY3LT)

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:37 AM (cY3LT)

56 The infantilization of society got a big leg up with the growing deification of athletes and sports figures. Sometimes these diehard fans sound like preteens all gushy over the latest crush.

Posted by: kallisto at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (ef0s9)

57 Maybe he's getting ready to play Keith Richards in a new movie.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 11:36 AM (7uYFy)

They should just use Keith. He looks the same now as he did in '78.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (sXefu)

58 Aw, man! Bummer. I'm a zippo man, myself.
Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 11:34 AM (MVjcR)

It's just a Vector Moritz with all the little pipe gadgets. I'm sure it's around here somewhere.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (fZuhk)

59 Dr. Zaius: There is no contradiction between faith and science . . . true science!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 02, 2018 11:39 AM (QLvwG)

60 49 All our social problems are, oddly enough and counter to most of history, because we are too rich. People don't have time for pie in the sky and wishcasting when they are scrabbling for their next meal.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Retribution is my Sarah Palin's uterus at June 02, 2018 11:34 AM (yQpMk)

Interesting observation...

Thinking on it.... the US went nuts in the early 1900s... Lots of social experimentation, and a 20 year period of Constitutional Amendments...

And that was a time when people felt safe... felt rich... were doing well...

It may not even be actual wealth.... but the perception of wealth....

Posted by: Don Q at June 02, 2018 11:39 AM (NgKpN)

61 I am 45. When I was a kid I considered that to be old. I wear jeans.

Posted by: Wildcat72 at June 02, 2018 11:40 AM (yiAMj)

62 I thought Kinbell was the doctor who was accused of killing his wife but the real killer was the one armed man.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 02, 2018 11:40 AM (puS7T)

63 Hippy shit? I don't remember at all.

Me either. I was 8 that year and we lived on an AF base overseas so I was isolated from all the counter-culture crap. I remember being aware of the presidental election and Nixon's win but I don't remember RFK or MLK.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2018 11:40 AM (7oUUT)

64 I think the sea-change in culture can be attributed to one invention:

Television.
Television simplified everything to a soundbite and made it seem as if everyone was a hippie and our soldiers were loser junkies. And the Viet Cong were freedom fighters. And the Democrats had souls.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 02, 2018 11:41 AM (l9m7l)

65 I remember that 1968 sucked. Tet offensive, assassinations, more riots. Michigan still reeling from the Detroit riots. I don't see it as a positive year.

Denny McClain did win 30 games, so that was cool, but he turned into an asshole and a jailbird. Sad about his kid.

Posted by: CN at June 02, 2018 11:41 AM (5gaNQ)

66 I am 45. When I was a kid I considered that to be old. I wear jeans.
Posted by: Wildcat72 at June 02, 2018 11:40 AM (yiAMj)

I'm not saying I ONLY wear jeans to piss off George Will, but I figure the more I do the opposite of what George Will does, the better I am.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:42 AM (cY3LT)

67 I remember that 1968 sucked. Tet offensive, assassinations, more riots. Michigan still reeling from the Detroit riots. I don't see it as a positive year.

And Richard Nixon got elected President. The left hasn't figured out that if they get the level of societal chaos high enough, they'll lose.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 11:43 AM (dlwIY)

68 My memory of 1968 is that Mrs H and I survived it, but just barely. It was clear that the civil society was beginning to unravel.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2018 11:43 AM (n9EOP)

69 1968 I was on Oahu. Dad was stationed at Hickam. I remember riding on the school bus and the student helper trying to get us to sing along to Peter, Paul, and Mary songs. Also on May Day we had Maypoles at school. I hated that stupid crap.

Posted by: f'd at June 02, 2018 11:43 AM (UdKB7)

70 Not the movie thread, but-

If you want to see just how kookoobananas the French "intellectual", MSM, artistic classes got,

you can find no better examples than the movies of-

Jean-Juc Godard during this period.

From roughly "Weekend" (1966) thru "La Chinoise" thru "Sympathy for the Devil" (196

and beyond-

every single single movie was a screaming shitpile of marxist propaganda and Maoist idolatry.

There mi-i-i-i-ight be a story in these films, but it's literally interrupted every few minutes for an anti-American or Maoist diatribe.

I got suckered when a college student into watching a few of these since our own USA "intellectual" movie critic types praised them to the skies and beyond.

Even then I thought they were moronic(the bad kind), childish, and worst of all horrifically boring in their single mindedness.

Ugh.

Hey, you know how I know you're a completely boring asshole and awful human being?

You love Mao.

Guess who TFG and crew's favorite commie was....that's right. Mao.

Now you know why this reign and the garbage left behind so resembles the Cultural Revolution of China.

That's why the Deep State must be defeated.

You can find these films on Netflix and Amazon.

Watch one. The amazing thing is that these progtards haven't evolved or changed a thing in 50 fucking years.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2018 11:44 AM (9q7Dl)

71 So, are blue jeans on old people a sign that we have abandoned maturity?"

Nah. It's a sign you're out on the farm...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:44 AM (7LY+6)

72 "The 1968 legacy?"

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I watched the 1968 episode of The Vietnam War last night. They went on and on about the world wide riots and mentioned Prague in the mix. Yeah, the Prague Spring was a little different than the commies emmanetizing the eschaton in D.C., Chicago, Paris etc.

Incidentally, there was something funny. This Marine had just finished his tour and was flying out of his fire base with a stack of filled body bags. This was January 31, 1968 so the Tet offensive had just begun and as he took off, the airstrip was under fire. He got to division HQ and sure enough it's under fire. Then he gets to the Da Nang to get on a plane back to the world and it's under fire. He thinking, "Holy shit! There's guys in these body bags who didn't drink, swear, and consort with women of easy virtue. I did all that shit. God made a mistake by letting me survive and He means to fix it before I get out of here!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)

73 I have, like, one memory from 1968. There was this little, short bus that would come by the domicile to take me to kindergarten. Since I'm an Army brat, it was green; I didn't ride on a yellow school bus until 1976.
The interesting memories are from '69 or '70. We were stationed in Munich. One year, there were bomb threats against my elementary school. The first couple of times, they sent us home while they checked out the school. The third one must have been made by a kid who didn't want to go to school, because that time they marched us down to the hospital, which had an auditorium, and showed us cartoons, then marched us back to school.
We toured the construction site for the '72 Olympics. My favorite t-shirt was an Olympic shirt bought on that outing. Wish I still had it, although I don't think it would fit anymore.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 02, 2018 11:45 AM (2//jc)

74 Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:42 AM (cY3LT)

Whenever I wear jeans (or I think the proper genteel term is dungarees), I also wear a bow tie, especially if it's a classy event.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2018 11:46 AM (n9EOP)

75 They should just use Keith. He looks the same now as he did in '78.
Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (sXefu)

Ha! Seriously, dude did all his aging all at once, and has just been coasting in steady state ever since.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 11:47 AM (BRvh1)

76 AM radio station just started up in Anaheim.
Got a transistor radio of my very own, you know with the mono earphone...Lemon yellow, if I remember correctly.

Those were modern times, I tell ya.

Posted by: Gunslinger at June 02, 2018 11:47 AM (mmY0s)

77 If you want a hoot, Bill Clinton apparently decided that his reputation needed a little buffing, so he ran to the New York Times to explain about what a Soooper Intellectual he was, and about all the Big Complex Books he reads.

The New York Times didn't question this in the slightest, of course.

A sample:

Are you a rereader? What book do you read over and over again?

Yes. I've reread Marcus Aurelius' 'Meditations," Seamus Heaney's "The Cure at Troy" and William Butler Yeats's "The Collected Poems" several times.

Yeah, right.

https://tinyurl.com/ydhk7wse

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 11:48 AM (dlwIY)

78 Rubin again: "Satisfy our demands, and we've got twelve more. The more demands you satisfy, the more we got."
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That is what the left has become. Never, NEVER, give them an inch.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 02, 2018 11:48 AM (pw+jk)

79 So France was going commie in 68m while the Czechs were trying to escape

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2018 11:48 AM (MS0+a)

80 67: Didn't help that Humphrey was a ringer for porky pig and that the dem kids tied him with LBJ and the war. Yippies and SDS also threw water on the donks, and I hope antifa and the rest of the dirtbags show up bigly for the next dem lovefest

Posted by: CN at June 02, 2018 11:49 AM (5gaNQ)

81 Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 11:48 AM (dlwIY)

That so needs to be posted on the Book Thread!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2018 11:49 AM (n9EOP)

82 34 In 1968, I wouldn't be born for another 12 years.

So, I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 02, 2018 11:27 AM (fZuhk)
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Jailbait!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 11:50 AM (qJtVm)

83 Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:42 AM (cY3LT)

Whenever I wear jeans (or I think the proper genteel term is dungarees), I also wear a bow tie, especially if it's a classy event.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2018 11:46 AM (n9EOP)

What gives me joy is knowing, no matter how uncomfortable George Will is, in his slacks (with the stick up his tailpipe), he can't wear jeans, he can't wear shorts, he can't wear sweatpants.

There are all sorts of prisons in this world. That is George's.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:50 AM (cY3LT)

84 Born in 1968, so memories are a little vague. But I certainly do remember my oldest sister begging my parents to let her make tie-dyed clothes (circa 1972ish) and my dad being like, hell no - there'll be none of that hippy shit in this household..... I was quite small, but his angst towards anything "hippy" made such an impression that it is one of my earlier memories.

Posted by: Big Dirty at June 02, 2018 11:51 AM (BZ+4e)

85
Whenever I wear jeans (or I think the proper genteel term is dungarees), I also wear a bow tie, especially if it's a classy event.
Posted by: Hrothgar

Started wearing those pants in the Navy in 1971. They were so comfortable I've not worn anything else since.
No bow tie, though.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 11:51 AM (IqV8l)

86 So France was going commie in 68"

They were already there...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:52 AM (7LY+6)

87 My father was a barber and his shop was next to a news stand. I used to fold towels for my father's shop (that's right; I'm bad) so I was down there and we went to the newstand. My dad asked the news stand guy if he heard that MLK had been assassinated and he replied, "Somebody should've done it ten years ago."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)

88 24
Well, being only 29 I don't have any memories of 1968.... but it sure sounds like it was fun!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 02, 2018 11:22 AM (5AVMW)

Smashing up stuff is fun. Building and preserving stuff is hard and boring and something only old folks are interested in.I was little in 1968 - but I have memories of roaming freely with my friends all day without any adult supervision, and of high school boys toting rifles around without anybody panicking - because those boys were going hunting or belonged to Rifle Club. I remember almost everyone grew in a home with a mom and dad and divorced families were rare.

You do not have memories like that, in large part of the generation of '68. That's not your fault - but I find it sad that young people have absolutely no idea of what was lost. They've been told that the 50's were a cross between Jim Crow and A Handmaid's Tale and think they're better off. And yet black leaders keep talking like it's still as bad as 1948 out there and feminists keep crying about sexism, so what exactly has been gained? The "right" to call the daughter of the President a c*nt on TV?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 11:52 AM (H80UQ)

89 Johnny Depp looks like he's a full-blown junkie now. But he does appear relaxed and friendly and had no issue posing for pictures with staff. So who knows?
Maybe he's getting ready to play Keith Richards in a new movie.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 11:36 AM (7uYFy)

Depp is one of the lead guitarists in Alice Cooper's Hollywood Vampires group. He pretty frickin' good. Great cover tunes from the old days.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 02, 2018 11:52 AM (Mkuv2)

90 KT again brings the beef, before we get to the actual fruit, vegetables, and flowers. Awesome stuff.

"he is, however, conscious of how complex movements can, with time, be
simplified both by participants and their traducers: the notion that the
1968 dissidents began a process of undermining the church, education,
patriotism and the family is "just as absurd as the whole revolutionary
myth" (from kt's quote above)

Or perhaps the other way around ... the Russkies and of Soviet days infiltrated America in the 1930s, and after Hitler massacred millions, our "allies" the Soviets took half of Europe in their iron fist grip, and genocided ten million of so Ukranians.

Diana West thinks perhaps we kinda lost WW2, as Russia not only took direct control of the Eastern Bloc, but had covertly marched INTO our institutions already, and had us doing their commie policy is America. Roosevelt normalized relations with the Soviets, and hoped for a "convergence" with them, BUT they were supposed to then back off from infiltration. Of course they agreed, and it was a big lie ... they always lie.
https://youtu.be/vkzJCn-OT4A?t=618

The Russians were covertly deep in our government (good old Uncle Joe) going back long before 1968. Just bringing that up as a reference/foundation for what became more open command and control around 1968. They were already here (DeepState?) for a couple generations.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 02, 2018 11:53 AM (bT8Z4)

91 Also on May Day we had Maypoles at school. I hated that stupid crap.
Posted by: f'd at June 02, 2018 11:43 AM (UdKB7)
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We did too, but rather than being Commie in origin I think it's an old Midwestern pagan rite, kind of like our school's sacrifices to the Corn God.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 11:53 AM (qJtVm)

92 84: Hippies were vile. I suspect the acid crowd is still looking out of the windows at state hospitals imagining they are Keith Richards

Posted by: CN at June 02, 2018 11:53 AM (5gaNQ)

93 Yippies and SDS also threw water on the donks,

-
Riots at the Donk Chicago convention.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

94 1968 I also lost a sister to leukemia. She would have had a much better chance nowadays. Maybe in 50 years they'll have fixed such things.

Posted by: f'd at June 02, 2018 11:53 AM (UdKB7)

95 Maybe he's getting ready to play Keith Richards in a new movie.

Supposedly that's who he based Jack Sparrow on.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 11:53 AM (O5Q3r)

96 I will say this:

Grown men should not wear short pants unless concurrently engaging in some form of athletic activity.

Jeans, slacks, whatever floats your boat. Just not shorts. I mean come on, people. We're trying to have a civilization here.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 11:54 AM (BRvh1)

97 '68. The race riots.
My Pop spent 2 or 3 nights up in the City with a great uncle... and every gun they owned.

Posted by: MarkY at June 02, 2018 11:54 AM (i022r)

98 https://www.usarmygermany.com/ Sont.htm?https&&&www.usarmygermany.com/Units/ HqUSAREUR/USAREUR_HqUSAREUR.htm

Look at all the shootdowns of recon aircraft

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2018 11:54 AM (MS0+a)

99 Despite the manipulations of media (Walter!) and liberalized culture, my memory of the bodies of would-be escapees left hanging on the Berlin Wall made forever clear to me the differences between the free world and the iron and bamboo curtained countries.

I understood questioning the purposes and methods of the Viet Nam war, and thought issues like the draft were validly challenged, but I could never identify one bit with the stinking agitators who spat on and cursed at our returning dutiful military men.

While it still needs more work, the rehabilitation, since those awful days, of the image of the serviceman is something for which I am glad.

Posted by: mindful webworker - like it was yesterday at June 02, 2018 11:54 AM (uDclo)

100 Hippies scared me but I didnt encounter them often.

That summer we listened to KJR on the transistor radio while trying to tan (or at least become a less vivid shade of white) in the backyard, sometimes running through the sprinkler or sitting in an inflatable kiddie pool.

Posted by: LaSue at June 02, 2018 11:55 AM (Z48ZB)

101 Grown men should not wear short pants unless concurrently engaging in some form of athletic activity. "

Sure thing, bunky...

Or can I call living in SE Texas "athletic" activity?

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:55 AM (7LY+6)

102 "an old Midwestern pagan rite"

Midwestern Hawaii?

Posted by: f'd at June 02, 2018 11:57 AM (UdKB7)

103 I should mention that, at least in KCMo, the black middle class shop owners never recovered from that summer.
The shopping areas and neighborhoods haven't either.

Posted by: MarkY at June 02, 2018 11:57 AM (i022r)

104 That so needs to be posted on the Book Thread!

Clinton's trying the John F. Kennedy route, of course - the court media tried to make it sound as if JFK was a Big Intellectual who read and wrote Big Books

It was bullshit, of course - JFK relied on ghostwriters to write his Big Books, and was in reality intellectually incurious. JFK spent his free time figuring out what woman he was going to off next.

Shades of Bill C...

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 11:58 AM (dlwIY)

105 Or can I call living in SE Texas "athletic" activity?

Based on casual observations in a Beaumont Walmart, no.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 02, 2018 11:58 AM (7oUUT)

106
"I got suckered when a college student into watching a few of these
since our own USA "intellectual" movie critic types praised them to the
skies and beyond.

Even then I thought they were moronic(the bad kind), childish, and worst of all horrifically boring in their single mindedness."
Godard movies are incredibly boring. I think the same people who like them are the same people who think nihilistic performance "artists" are real artists and who swoon over a blank canvas in an art gallery and say it's profound and significant.

Tom Wolfe called those poseurs out.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 11:58 AM (H80UQ)

107 Also on May Day we had Maypoles at school. I hated that stupid crap.
Posted by: f'd at June 02, 2018 11:43 AM (UdKB7)
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We did too, but rather than being Commie in origin I think it's an old Midwestern pagan rite, kind of like our school's sacrifices to the Corn God.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

I believe the May Pole is in honor of the god Uff-Dah. You decorate the pole and leave Jello salads as an offering.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 11:58 AM (f3MDZ)

108 Or can I call living in SE Texas "athletic" activity?

Heh.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:55 AM (7LY+6)

Sweat it out Tex. It's for the good of all mankind.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 11:59 AM (BRvh1)

109 The Russians were covertly deep in our government"

Soviets didn't exactly have to try, as many in the Federal Government were quite enamored of "progressivism", esp after W.Wilson's expansion of the Federal State.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:59 AM (7LY+6)

110 Guess who TFG and crew's favorite commie was....that's right. Mao. —naturalfake

Wasn't it Planet of the Jarrets itself who hung the Mao ornament on the White House Christmas tree?

Posted by: mindful webworker - the wonder year at June 02, 2018 11:59 AM (uDclo)

111

Grown men should not wear short pants unless concurrently engaging in some form of athletic activity. "

This is about me isn't it?

Posted by: Richard Simmons at June 02, 2018 11:59 AM (10vO4)

112 JFK spent his free time figuring out what woman he was going to off next.

Err, "Boff next".

Killing and crippling young women was reserved for other members of the Kennedy family.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 12:00 PM (dlwIY)

113 Yoga pants on size 50+ posteriors, definitely yoga pants.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 02, 2018 12:00 PM (RJHwk)

114 I will say this:

Grown men should not wear short pants unless concurrently engaging in some form of athletic activity.

Jeans, slacks, whatever floats your boat. Just not shorts. I mean come on, people. We're trying to have a civilization here.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 11:54 AM (BRvh1)

Sorry.

Where I live, months of high 90's and low 100's pretty much guarantee that you're going to wear shorts.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2018 12:00 PM (9q7Dl)

115 I remember in 1971 going to LA with my mom to a frame shop. We lived at Edwards AFB at the time. While I was sitting in the car waiting for my mom to come back, two hippies walked by. One of them looked like he was chasing invisible butterflies and I remember thinking, "boy he sure looks happy".

Posted by: f'd at June 02, 2018 12:01 PM (UdKB7)

116 Mentioning 1968 reminds me that I had a front-row seat at the spectacle of our famlies being destroyed.

Nothing like watching the destruction of the family through the start of the divorce age.

Yay.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (WEBkv)

117 "Don't trust anyone over the age of 30."
- Jack Weinburg, 1964

"Don't trust anyone under 30, too."
-Abbie Hoffman, 1984

Posted by: escaped oaf at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (Bn/4f)

118 The Tommies who fought the vile Hun in North Africa wore short pants.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (f3MDZ)

119 Hubbymayhem has a good point. ..
Isn't it racist to automatically assume race has anything to do with this nonsense? Why is it more racist to compare a person to an ape than it is for everyone to just accept that if there is a comparison to an ape the person must be black? Where is the outrage for Bush being called a chimp? Trump being called an orangutan? Why is it so awful to compare black people to primates but not awful to compare white people to same?

I don't see the racism in this horseshit at all. I see stupidity.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (myjNJ)

120 https://tinyurl.com/ydhk7wse
Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 11:48 AM (dlwIY)

He says he's never been able to get through "Don Quixote," and then says some nonsense about it not being due to the book being long.

Yeah, Bill, we know. You can't get through Quixote because it's about a guy who is living a lie.

The difference is, Quixote was crazy. You Bill, your life is a lie, because you are evil.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:03 PM (cY3LT)

121 You warm-weather people and your lame excuses...

"Waaah, it's hot. Waaaah, it's humid."

Humbug!

My sartorial dictates are not to be questioned!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 12:03 PM (BRvh1)

122 Grown men should not wear short pants unless concurrently engaging in some form of athletic activity.

Around here shorts are for everything except work, and can be for that too if you find the right employer. But we're regularly over 110 degrees Fahrenheit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (IcT7t)

123 I was in HS in 1968, and also in Civil Air Patrol, living in metro Detroit. Detroit went up in April when MLKjr was killed, and Romney sent in the National Guard. Our squadron spent a night on the flight line at Selfridge (then) AFB, with coffee etc for the troops coming in. My parents were born and raised in Detroit and I remember how upset they were, to see places they knew being destroyed.

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (JK7Jw)

124 The assassinations of MLK and RFK were pretty horrifying but I enjoyed the video from the Chicago Democrat Convention.

Posted by: cfo mom at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (RfzVr)

125 I don't see the racism in this horseshit at all. I see stupidity.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (myjNJ)

Weaponized Delicacy.

It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to work.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (BRvh1)

126 Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 11:54 AM (BRvh1)

Sorry.

Where I live, months of high 90's and low 100's pretty much guarantee that you're going to wear shorts.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2018 12:00 PM (9q7Dl)

Yes. We have something called humidity here. If I want to walk around with moisture running down my leg, I'll pee on myself.

I'm wearing shorts.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (cY3LT)

127 Events of 1968?

This is how you get Nixon.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Grand Old Partier at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (uDclo)

128 Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 11:58 AM (dlwIY)

I was being a bit sarcastic, but I appreciated the reference to "Meditations" which was a Book Thread topic back in the FAll IIRC.

My conclusion is that if BJ Clinton read Marcus Aurelius even once and paid attention, he'd be a far different man today than he is!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (n9EOP)

129 Isn't it racist to automatically assume race has anything to do with this nonsense?

It's very simple.

Portray George W. Bush as the Joker = legitimate political parody.

Portray Obama as the Joker = racist. You should lose your job and be driven out of society.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 12:05 PM (dlwIY)

130 The legacy of The Last Jedi continues.

I just checked IMDB's page for Solo, and they have a couple of fascinating headlines listed
Box Office-Solo: A Star Wars Story Faces dropoff in Second Weekend
'Solo' continues to Nosedive at Box Office

I checked when folks were talking about it yesterday, and as of Thursday night, the total worldwide take stood at $197 million.

After Friday, what I would generally consider movie date night, it now has just short of $202 million.

Take a bow, Kathleen, take a bow.

Posted by: Methos at June 02, 2018 12:05 PM (XQvuQ)

131 I was four, I remember Grandpa made me a cane fishing pole, that's about it.

it was '71 or '72 before I started having clear, specific memories of world events.

Posted by: Shoey at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (lOf8d)

132 Nothing like watching the destruction of the family through the start of the divorce age.

Yay.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman

One of the first legal changes the bolsheviks made was no-fault divorce laws. In tact families are the biggest obstacles to full commie takeover.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (f3MDZ)

133 "Grown men should not wear short pants unless concurrently engaging in some form of athletic activity. "

You clearly do not remember this horrifying episode:
https://tinyurl.com/ybpqha73

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (H80UQ)

134 118 The Tommies who fought the vile Hun in North Africa wore short pants.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (f3MDZ)

I believe that counts as an athletic activity.

Also: Sten gun = automatic argument settler.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (BRvh1)

135 Spare a thought for the other revolution of 1968 - the Czechoslovakian revolution against the Communists.

Posted by: josephistan at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (ANIFC)

136 I don't see the racism in this horseshit at all. I see stupidity.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (myjNJ)

I see duplicity!

Cunning deviant evil duplicity!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2018 12:08 PM (n9EOP)

137 Johnny Depp is looking bad in those photos. Sad. I like him as an actor.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Retribution is my Sarah Palin's uterus at June 02, 2018 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

138 People ask, would you have loved the 60s ... I rely, sure, 'cause I would have been in Guard at Kent St, shooting hippies.

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2018 12:08 PM (MS0+a)

139 Not every sex act has larger meaning, of course, but the goal of Critical Theory was to reduce human beings to the level of animals ("If it feels good, do it") and to deny the transcendent component that had driven creative artists for centuries

This is incredibly important and its the single best explanation for what happened to art in the 20th century.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 02, 2018 12:08 PM (39g3+)

140 127 Events of 1968?

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Me.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:09 PM (wedPR)

141 135
Spare a thought for the other revolution of 1968 - the Czechoslovakian revolution against the Communists.

Posted by: josephistan at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (ANIFC)
Funny, that one never seems to get that much attention from the media and academics.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 12:09 PM (H80UQ)

142 One of the first legal changes the bolsheviks made was no-fault divorce laws. In tact families are the biggest obstacles to full commie takeover.

It was key to feminism too - the idea that the woman could get alimony and child support automatically if she got tired of being married, and found someone else who was more interesting.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 12:09 PM (dlwIY)

143 In 1968 I was 12. My life consisted of avoiding any sort of adult supervision.

Posted by: BluesFish at June 02, 2018 12:10 PM (5iPef)

144 Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:10 PM (wedPR)

145 I teed off about how racist democrats say I am because. ... reasons.
My girl spawn looked at me and said, " yeh you're so racist you even have a Chinese daughter. " The accompanied eye roll could be heard in the next county.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:10 PM (myjNJ)

146 Pat Metheny wore short shorts. It kind of distracted from the music when you saw him live.

Posted by: kallisto at June 02, 2018 12:12 PM (ef0s9)

147 I was a senior in high school in 1968. My dad had a huge old Zenith floor model radio. It tuned to AM, FM and shortwave.
Huge internal antenna and real tubes, which you could still find. He fixed it up and we listened to shortwave broadcasts from BBC, VoA, Radio Netherlands, Radio South Africa and Radio Prague. I even subscribed to the magazine they offered. It was very interesting. Lots of culture and scenery. Very little obvious propaganda. When the anti com revolution started I raced home to listen to the broadcasts every day and night. They went live and stayed that way. It was heartbreaking for me to listen to the broadcasters calling out, "Come to the defense of your radio station". Unforgettable. After it was all over, a couple of weeks later, they were back on the air. All new staff, acting like nothing had happened. It still makes me weep some. Like now. Damn, dusty in here.

Posted by: Winston at June 02, 2018 12:12 PM (wgCUV)

148 Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

Make of that what you will.

The hippies screwed that up, too. They thought it was the year of the junkie.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 02, 2018 12:12 PM (IcT7t)

149
1968, the year that Mayor Daley Sr. showed the world how to deal with hippie scum

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:12 PM (SiINZ)

150 The Tommies who fought the vile Hun in North Africa wore short pants.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:02 PM (f3MDZ)

And look where it's gotten them today

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:13 PM (SiINZ)

151 Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:10 PM (wedPR)

Get your stinking paws off of me, you damn dirty ape!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:14 PM (SiINZ)

152 1968, the year that Mayor Daley Sr. showed the world how to deal with hippie scum
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:12 PM (SiINZ)

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And to think I was born a mere three weeks later in that lovely city...

Sometimes I feel I missed out.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (wedPR)

153 Its 90f and humid as a crotch today. Im wearing shorts and drinking covfefe. Thts a sport.

Posted by: BluesFish at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (5iPef)

154 148
Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

I'm a monkey man!

Posted by: Mick Jagger at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (H80UQ)

155 *parachutes in*

1968 was also the Prague Spring, then crushed by Soviet tanks.

MLK, RFK. LBJ not running. Riots in America. Revolutions in Europe. It was probably the most tumultuous year I've lived through, though I was a lad of eight.

The year ending with Apollo 8 seeing the earthrise and reading from Genesis was beautiful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (fuK7c)

156 Hmmmm, 1968. Oh yeah, I became acutely aware of a Miss Kathy Wingfield. Then we moved. I was bummed.

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (LAe3v)

157 1968, the year that Mayor Daley Sr. showed the world how to deal with hippie scum

"The whole world is watching!"WHACKWHACKWHACKWHACK...
I remember watching that.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 12:16 PM (O5Q3r)

158 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)
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Smack Addict

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 02, 2018 12:16 PM (y3aQB)

159 Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

I'm a monkey man!

Posted by: Mick Jagger at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (H80UQ)
Me too!

Posted by: Peter Tork at June 02, 2018 12:17 PM (H80UQ)

160 Former NHL great Jaromir Jagr wore number 68 in honor of his Grandfather, who died in prison that year after being jailed earlier for resisting the collectivization of his farm.

Posted by: josephistan at June 02, 2018 12:17 PM (ANIFC)

161 156
Hmmmm, 1968. Oh yeah, I became acutely aware of a Miss Kathy Wingfield. Then we moved. I was bummed.

Posted by: pep
At which point, I became acutely aware of a Miss Sally Campbell, to be followed by a string of others. Never had the nerve to do anything about it, of course.

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (LAe3v)

162 1968, the year that Mayor Daley Sr. showed the world how to deal with hippie scum
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:12 PM (SiINZ)

The Democrat Party was fairly evenly split in '68. Daily more or less represented the blue collar Democrats, and the raging lefties were being heard, full-throated, by a Party that realized it was in trouble. It could not serve both.

Humphrey was kind of the middle of the road guy, but it wasn't going to work, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that Humphrey was perhaps the one man in America who could make Dick Nixon look warm and friendly.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (cY3LT)

163 I remember sitting in a movie theater and having a smoke and watching Charlton Heston run around in a loin cloth and fighting monkeys and chimps on a future planet Earth.

No one told me the movie was called "The Shape of Things to Come".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (EoRCO)

164 And look where it's gotten them today
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Point taken. No shorts it is.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (f3MDZ)

165 In 1968 I was in junior high school, winning at losing, excelling at not fitting in. All the turmoil was personal and unconnected to any larger issues.

I remember Moratorium Day the next year as a puzzling thing, in retrospect a huge fraud.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 02, 2018 12:19 PM (t5m5e)

166 Daily more or less....
Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (cY3LT)

Or, Daley more or less....

More or less.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:19 PM (cY3LT)

167 My dad was in 'Nam in early 1968, and came home to Chicago about a month or so before I was born.

Two months later, my dad received orders for San Diego.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:19 PM (wedPR)

168 My dad, a retired Naval Aviator, made me watch all the televised coverage of the Apollo missions with him. He knew it was history in the making. I didn't understand the significance at the time (I was five) but sure am glad now that I saw it all live.

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 12:19 PM (MVjcR)

169 Johnny Depp is looking bad in those photos. Sad. I like him as an actor.

He's just played the same character over and over for the last 10 films or so, though. Weed has rotted his brain

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 02, 2018 12:20 PM (39g3+)

170 "The whole world is
watching!"WHACKWHACKWHACKWHACK...
I remember watching that.

I was reading about 1968 on a Chicago cop blog, and it was pointed out that the police supervisors (who wore white shirts) were out in front of the patrolmen (who wore blue shirts) as the cops marched into Grant Park. Leadership.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 12:20 PM (dlwIY)

171 Another hippy memory.... A small group of hippies in a camper van started living on a vacant lot about 1/2 a mile up the road from my grandmother's farm. I distinctly remember my dad and uncles telling my recently-widowed grandmother to keep her doors locked....and if she ever saw them snooping around the farm to shoot them with the shotgun. Hippies were not held in high regard in rural PA in the early 1970s.

Posted by: Big Dirty at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (BZ+4e)

172 The Democrat Party was fairly evenly split in '68. Daily more or less represented the blue collar Democrats, and the raging lefties were being heard, full-throated, by a Party that realized it was in trouble. It could not serve both.

Humphrey was kind of the middle of the road guy, but it wasn't going to work, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that Humphrey was perhaps the one man in America who could make Dick Nixon look warm and friendly.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (cY3LT)

The Dems then refused to allow Daley to come to their 1972 convention and gave his spot to Jesse Jackass. Old man Daley covertly supported Nixon. Had all of his ward bosses do nothing for McGovern. Old Man Daley was another Dem who barely fit into the party when he died in 1976 and would have no place in it today

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (SiINZ)

173 Venus In Blue Jeans, baby!

Posted by: Jimmy Clanton at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (DMUuz)

174 On the jeans thing -- I'm 74, and rarely wear anything dressier. In my defense, we live 12 miles outside of town, and pretty much only go there for groceries and doctor visits. Not going to dress up for Wal-Mart.

Also Texas. Jeans are normal attire for a lot of people regardless of age. Or much of anything else, for that matter.

Posted by: empire1 at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (ANSVE)

175 1968..... hmm... I turned 1 yr old in June of 1968. I remember nothing of that birthday. There are pictures of me wearing only a diaper (the cloth variety ) and covered with cake, but I don't recall that obviously delicious treat.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (myjNJ)

176 Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

Make of that what you will.

.......

You just compared the entire year to a monkey.

F*CKING RACIST!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (B6+JK)

177 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 02, 2018 12:20 PM (39g3+)
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You misspelled Smack

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 02, 2018 12:22 PM (y3aQB)

178 In 1968 ... my dad was 14. I wasn't even a twinkle in my mothers eye.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 02, 2018 12:22 PM (fiGNd)

179 acutely aware of a Miss Sally Campbell"

Mmmm. Shelley. And her two sisters....

You were saying?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 12:22 PM (7LY+6)

180 1968..... hmm... I turned 1 yr old in June of 1968. I remember
nothing of that birthday. There are pictures of me wearing only a
diaper (the cloth variety ) and covered with cake, but I don't recall
that obviously delicious treat.

Rumor has it you were hitting the bottle pretty hard that year.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 02, 2018 12:23 PM (IcT7t)

181 In 1968 ... my dad was 14. I wasn't even a twinkle in my mothers eye.

You are a child. You know what to do.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Lawn at June 02, 2018 12:23 PM (fuK7c)

182 You just compared the entire year to a monkey.

F*CKING RACIST! "

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 12:23 PM (7LY+6)

183 http://bit.ly/2Lj2Axl
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BOMBSHELL! Three former high-level US intelligence officials conclude that only Obama could have been behind the conspiracy to destroy President Trump

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 02, 2018 12:24 PM (y3aQB)

184 Old Man Daley was another Dem who barely fit into the party when he died in 1976 and would have no place in it today
As I remember, did't Mike Wallace and Dan Rather get smacked around on the convention floor by Daley's people? Good times.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 12:24 PM (O5Q3r)

185 Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:18 PM (cY3LT)

The Dems then refused to allow Daley to come to their 1972 convention and gave his spot to Jesse Jackass. Old man Daley covertly supported Nixon. Had all of his ward bosses do nothing for McGovern. Old Man Daley was another Dem who barely fit into the party when he died in 1976 and would have no place in it today
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:21 PM (SiINZ)

Yep. I should probably re-read Royko's book on Daley.

It would be an interesting snapshot, of a time when Democrats were the same shitty Party they are today, in how they rigged elections, controlled the hordes who voted for them... they just did so with political positions that would almost entirely align with mainstream Republican positions today.

Or mainstream Republican positions, pre-Trump. I have no idea what mainstream Republicans are today. Schizophrenic, is what they are.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:25 PM (cY3LT)

186 164
And look where it's gotten them today

Posted by: TheQuietMan

Point taken. No shorts it is.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable
Just to be clear, some form of pantaloons IS required.

Posted by: pep at June 02, 2018 12:25 PM (LAe3v)

187 1968. Was getting ready to go into the Army. I thought hippies were somewhat fun, but generally stupid. And I never did ever buy into the America-hate so many had, even after I got back from Vietnam.

Vietnam taught me that the USA was heaven on earth.

Posted by: Soona at June 02, 2018 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

188 Steppin' off bander's lawn over here, boss.

It's a good day - just picked up the Ruger PC Carbine. So far, I really like it.

Possibly the best iron sights I've ever seen on a rifle. Forward mounted peep with a nice center blade and wings.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 02, 2018 12:26 PM (fiGNd)

189 As I remember, did't Mike Wallace and Dan Rather get smacked around on the convention floor by Daley's people? Good times.

Rather did. Not sure about Wallace.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 12:26 PM (fuK7c)

190 As I remember, did't Mike Wallace and Dan Rather get smacked around on the convention floor by Daley's people? Good times.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 12:24 PM (O5Q3r)

I think so. I love the videos of the cops giving the hippie scum the hickory shampoo. Those bastards were parading around with the flag of North Vietnam and other commies flags should have been dropped sans parachutes over North Vietnam

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:27 PM (SiINZ)

191 I pretty much live in jeans.

So what.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:27 PM (wedPR)

192 Rather did. Not sure about Wallace.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 12:26 PM (fuK7c)

Yeah, but Wallace got shot in '72.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 12:27 PM (7uYFy)

193 It would be an interesting snapshot, of a time when Democrats were the same shitty Party they are today, in how they rigged elections, controlled the hordes who voted for them... they just did so with political positions that would almost entirely align with mainstream Republican positions today.

Daley had a city to run and a city to protect.

When the Martin Luther King riots started in Chicago, Daley ordered the cops to "shoot to kill" looters. Chicago suffered less damage than a lot of big multiracial cities in the riots.

Imagine a Democratic mayor issuing that order today.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 12:28 PM (dlwIY)

194 As I remember, did't Mike Wallace and Dan Rather get smacked around on the convention floor by Daley's people? Good times.

Rather did. Not sure about Wallace.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Sometimes you have to bust heads for them to tell you the frequency.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:28 PM (f3MDZ)

195 Yeah, but Wallace got shot in '72.

Heh.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 12:28 PM (fuK7c)

196 "Soviets didn't exactly have to try, as many in the
Federal Government were quite enamored of "progressivism", esp after
W.Wilson's expansion of the Federal State."
Posted by: Anon a mouse

yeah you right

I haven't delved into Diana West's whole argument (which is really not just her, as she says, she is bringing together other work that has been buried by progressives) ... but I think her point is much of the "global commie" effort is infiltration by those that don't believe in individual liberty. "Americanism" was unique in founding a government on recognition of individual rights and limiting state rights.

Lincoln himself advanced the left's goals, and had communication with "Marxist" types. It has been a constant struggle against various groups forming to gain (tribal) dominance and abuse the system/constitution, rewriting the laws for themselves.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 02, 2018 12:29 PM (bT8Z4)

197 Rumor has it you were hitting the bottle pretty hard that year.

I was.. and there are pictures of that also.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:29 PM (myjNJ)

198 Khakhis are fine,
or jeans, if you please,
just make sure you're covered
below the knees!

Posted by: A message from Junior Anti Short Pants League at June 02, 2018 12:30 PM (BRvh1)

199 Yep. I should probably re-read Royko's book on Daley.

Royko hated Daley because at the time of the book Daley being socially conservative and ruled the city with an iron fist. I'm not making excuses for Daley's abuses but if he were liberal I don't think Royko would have had an issue with him. Later in his life Royko became more conservative. I remember a column from late in his life where he wrote he only watched movies if John Wayne was shooting someone in it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:31 PM (SiINZ)

200 Daley had a city to run and a city to protect.

When the Martin Luther King riots started in Chicago, Daley ordered the cops to "shoot to kill" looters. Chicago suffered less damage than a lot of big multiracial cities in the riots.

Imagine a Democratic mayor issuing that order today.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 12:28 PM (dlwIY)

There were also National Guard troops in the city. My parents have said it was one scary year

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:32 PM (SiINZ)

201 Shorts should show cheek
Culottes are too meek
The Dukes which drape Daisy
Are overly crazy
About giving boys a good peek

Posted by: A Message from Junior Pro Short Pants League at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (fuK7c)

202 I was seven in 68. Second grade, Ms. Marquart was my favorite teacher. I had a bicycle, we played smear the queer in the front yard, put playing cards on our bike spokes. I remember mom and dad trying not to let us see the news. We saw snippets. I do remember seeing the Watts riots a few years earlier. Dad's sales route had him making lots of call in LA. Mom was petrified.

Posted by: Infidel at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (LBSeG)

203 I enjoyed the video from the Chicago Democrat Convention.

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There was many the baton shampoo given that day, my friend.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (+y/Ru)

204 One of the first legal changes the bolsheviks made was no-fault divorce laws. In tact families are the biggest obstacles to full commie takeover.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (f3MDZ)

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Along with removing the stigma of divorce. People avoided divorce because it wasn't socially acceptable.

Of course, the "experts" led the way through proclaiming that one couldn't make others happy unless they first made themselves happy.

Gad, that was a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (WEBkv)

205 Yep. I should probably re-read Royko's book on Daley.

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Royko hated Daley because at the time of the book Daley being socially conservative and ruled the city with an iron fist. I'm not making excuses for Daley's abuses but if he were liberal I don't think Royko would have had an issue with him. Later in his life Royko became more conservative. I remember a column from late in his life where he wrote he only watched movies if John Wayne was shooting someone in it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:31 PM (SiINZ)

Royko was a beast that doesn't exist today: A journalist, who was immersed in Democrat Party politics, who reported as honestly as he could on what he saw.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:34 PM (cY3LT)

206 Along with removing the stigma of divorce. People avoided divorce because it wasn't socially acceptable.

Of course, the "experts" led the way through proclaiming that one couldn't make others happy unless they first made themselves happy.

Gad, that was a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman

It's no coincidence that the heavily infiltrated Hollywood culture lead the way in normalizing divorce.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:36 PM (f3MDZ)

207 13 Yep, that's Bronstein/Trotsky. The least awful of the Commies IMO.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 11:18 AM (qJtVm)

Nah, he was a piece of work himself, founding and leading the Red Army in exterminating the Whites, writing tracts in defense of terror. He just never got the chance to be as awful as Lenin or Stalin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 12:37 PM (iNpzW)

208 "So, are blue jeans on old people a sign that we have abandoned maturity?"

That and Viagra use in men and pussy hat wearing in women.

Not to disparage Viagra use in all men, I remember seeing a picture of Hugh Hefner about 15 years ago with 20 year old twins. He was touting the benefits of Viagra because it allowed him to boink these two gold-digging sluts. I thought at the time, "Hefner, you look repulsively ancient. Please don't stand next to barely legal females and pimp Viagra. No one wants to see an old man shtupping young women. Not even old men."

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 02, 2018 12:38 PM (9BLnV)

209 I don't wear jeans any more. I've worn them most of my life and I can remember when it was a big deal to wear them to school. I wear long skirts now. It's counter culture.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 02, 2018 12:38 PM (Lqy/e)

210 One of the first legal changes the bolsheviks made was no-fault divorce laws. In tact families are the biggest obstacles to full commie takeover.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (f3MDZ)

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Along with removing the stigma of divorce. People avoided divorce because it wasn't socially acceptable.

Of course, the "experts" led the way through proclaiming that one couldn't make others happy unless they first made themselves happy.

Gad, that was a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (WEBkv)

I think it's even more subversive than that.

By making divorce easy (and its correlated principle of sex outside marriage), it made coupling a much less important decision, so... We have more people coupling (married or not) with partners they should have NEVER gone to bed with in the first place.

It's made all of it easier. More sex, more children outside marriage, more divorced parents, and more absolute hate between people who had previously thought they were "in love."

It's made the concept of lifelong commitment to a partner with shared values, shared interests, shared responsibilities a quaint notion, thus leading to the further immaturity of so-called adults today.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:39 PM (cY3LT)

211 So, are blue jeans on old people a sign that we have abandoned maturity?

All jeans should be green.

Posted by: Mr. Green Jeans - Farmer Extraordinaire at June 02, 2018 12:39 PM (r9UYA)

212 I was in Toronto, getting ready to go into Grade 13 (no, that's not a typo). The Yorkville area downtown was invaded by US draft dodgers who were keen on being obnoxious and carrying on their anti-US sentiments in the Great White North (some are still there).

As for the VJ controversy, my initial reaction was that it was all about the resemblance with a movie character and it wasn't a statement about race. IIRC, the original Planet of the Apes won an Oscar for makeup, even though the "apes" looked very non-simian. The story I heard (I'd like confirmation by those who know) is that the much better costumes/makeup in 2001 A Space Odyssey was not even nominated because the Academy thought they were real apes.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at June 02, 2018 12:39 PM (ONHEV)

213
I watching video of the 1968 Dem Convention. There is nothing finer than watching blood dripping from the empty heads of hippie scum. Too bad Billy Ayers didn't meet a well deserved fate

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 12:40 PM (SiINZ)

214 My draft number was like 350 or so, but they pretty much stopped drafting by my day, and college would have kept me out at that point, iirc. (draft number, like when they randomly drew the numbers for each day of the year, to decide whom, by birthday, to draft first each year)

So I don't recall anything politically meaningful from back then. "All the Way with LBJ" was a slogan ... '72 I think. Several years later my Bible group got really interested in stopping the commie infiltration, but it never stopped, only ebbed and flowed. But with the internet people are revisiting some of fake news history, so there is a glimmer of hope to reverse the trend.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 02, 2018 12:40 PM (bT8Z4)

215 Why are they allowed to call the California primary a "jungle" primary. Isn't that racist?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

216 1968.....We lived in a 10�50 house trailer. It was parked in my grandma's yard. My older brother (thing one) and I shared one of the two small bedrooms. 1969 brought thing two along to share the space. Three kids shared that room until the youngest was 4 yrs old and we moved in to the house my dad built himself. Pappymayhem still lives in that house.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 02, 2018 12:41 PM (myjNJ)

217 Paul Gottfried was a student of Marcuse' and has written a lot about the Frankfurt school and what he calls "Cultural Marxism"

He was a guest on Tom Woods' podcast and is very interesting. ( I posted this on an ONT a couple nights back)
30 minutes of where they came from, what the do and what it has become,

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yddoq72e

Posted by: Kindltot at June 02, 2018 12:41 PM (2K6fY)

218 Not to disparage Viagra use in all men, I remember seeing a picture of Hugh Hefner about 15 years ago with 20 year old twins. He was touting the benefits of Viagra because it allowed him to boink these two gold-digging sluts. I thought at the time, "Hefner, you look repulsively ancient. Please don't stand next to barely legal females and pimp Viagra. No one wants to see an old man shtupping young women. Not even old men."
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

I remember when Viagra first debuted in the late 90s. My late Grandpa said "A pill to give you a hard-on? If you can't get one on your own, you don't deserve one."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:42 PM (f3MDZ)

219 I watching video of the 1968 Dem Convention. There is nothing finer than
watching blood dripping from the empty heads of hippie scum. Too bad
Billy Ayers didn't meet a well deserved fate

I'm sure Billy was an "idea man". Too important to be hippie cannon fodder.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 12:42 PM (O5Q3r)

220 The dress code at work was recently relaxed to allow jeans. Not really appropriate in an office, I've come to decide. I wear khakis and a golf shirt most days, and will wear a long sleeve shirt and a jacket when meeting with people outside the organization.

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 12:44 PM (MVjcR)

221 S2, Ep26 - 25 Mar. 1968
Mijacogeo

Micky, Mike and Davy find that Peter and all their neighbors have been hypnotized by their Television sets. The Evil Wizard Glick is using an alien Frodis to control people's minds through his machines (such as the Freeble Energizer) and plans to take over the world. Worst of all, The Monkees are prohibited by law to change into their Monkeemen alter egos and even the chant Micky learned from a cereal box-top backfires on them.

Posted by: mindful webworker - hey hey at June 02, 2018 12:44 PM (uDclo)

222 Honey by Bobby Goldsboro and Delilah by tom jones were big. Also yummy yummy yummy Ive got love in my tummy.

Posted by: LaSue at June 02, 2018 12:44 PM (Z48ZB)

223 I enjoyed the video from the Chicago Democrat Convention.

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There was many the baton shampoo given that day, my friend.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (+y/Ru)

The 1968 Chicago riots gave rise to the leftist concept of police brutality. That concept stuck, as we all know, and finally blossomed with the BLM movement we see today, giving the okey doke to a certain race of people to start ambushing and killing cops. It is also the precursor to more ugly things coming down the road if Americans do not hold firm on Constitutional principles of freedom.

We are riding the razors edge right now.

Posted by: Soona at June 02, 2018 12:44 PM (Fs5vw)

224 I'm sure Billy was an "idea man". Too important to be hippie cannon fodder.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 02, 2018 12:42 PM (O5Q3r)
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Yeah, while Bill was faking reading Marcus Aurelius, Stockdale was surviving on what he read in Epictetus.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 12:44 PM (qJtVm)

225 I live on a farm, so....

Jeans it is.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:45 PM (wedPR)

226 Weasel knows that a sombrero requires the gravitas of long pants.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 12:45 PM (qJtVm)

227 If America's cultural revolution was anything, it was an attack on maturity: more, it was a glorification of youth, of immaturity. As the Yippie leader Jerry Rubin put it: "We're permanent adolescents."

And we can see that has come to full fruition, the definitive hallmark of the "progressive" movement and the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2018 12:46 PM (Tyii7)

228 Old Man Daley was another Dem who barely fit into the party when he died in 1976 and would have no place in it today
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Trump would have him running DHS today

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2018 12:46 PM (MS0+a)

229 Hey AHE!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:46 PM (wedPR)

230 Hiya SMH! How's the family doing?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 12:47 PM (qJtVm)

231 Fine...keeping an eye on these storms about to roll through.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 12:48 PM (wedPR)

232 Clinton's trying the John F. Kennedy route, of course - the court media tried to make it sound as if JFK was a Big Intellectual who read and wrote Big Books

It was bullshit, of course - JFK relied on ghostwriters to write his Big Books, and was in reality intellectually incurious. JFK spent his free time figuring out what woman he was going to off next.

JFK was the Celts' affirmative action predecessor to Obama. And equally incompetent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 12:48 PM (iNpzW)

233 226 Weasel knows that a sombrero requires the gravitas of long pants.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 12:45 PM (qJtVm)
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Or chaps!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 02, 2018 12:49 PM (MVjcR)

234 Gardening thread up.

Posted by: HH at June 02, 2018 12:49 PM (mIJBI)

235 I was camping in Song Be f'ing Vietnam enjoying the Tet holiday.

Posted by: dingbat at June 02, 2018 12:50 PM (1Mxoh)

236 215 Why are they allowed to call the California primary a "jungle" primary. Isn't that racist?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

You obviously haven't seen the candidates.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 12:50 PM (iNpzW)

237 JFK was the Celts' affirmative action predecessor to Obama. And equally incompetent.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity

Not quite. JFK could speak without a teleprompter and his wife was a biological female.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:51 PM (f3MDZ)

238 One of the first legal changes the bolsheviks made was no-fault divorce laws. In tact families are the biggest obstacles to full commie takeover.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:06 PM (f3MDZ)

---------------------

Along with removing the stigma of divorce. People avoided divorce because it wasn't socially acceptable.

Of course, the "experts" led the way through proclaiming that one couldn't make others happy unless they first made themselves happy.

Gad, that was a stupid time to be alive.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 02, 2018 12:33 PM (WEBkv)

I think it's even more subversive than that.

By making divorce easy (and its correlated principle of sex outside marriage), it made coupling a much less important decision, so... We have more people coupling (married or not) with partners they should have NEVER gone to bed with in the first place.

It's made all of it easier. More sex, more children outside marriage, more divorced parents, and more absolute hate between people who had previously thought they were "in love."

It's made the concept of lifelong commitment to a partner with shared values, shared interests, shared responsibilities a quaint notion, thus leading to the further immaturity of so-called adults today.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 12:39 PM (cY3LT)

The feminist/Marxist inspired Duluth Model, which is all shoot revenge against the patriarchy and is admittied to be bullshit by one of the original authors of the study in her own words in a text book in 1999. Plus, several other studies but their own Duluth Model website justifies it as all men are violent and also patriarchy.

Kill the Father, Not the Mother was a faminist chant staring around 1968. In other words kill the father to kill the nuclear family

Posted by: Pickles at June 02, 2018 12:51 PM (72spU)

239 I'm guessing that Walsh has an alternative in mind in the rest of the book. Because the place the Left leaves us here is pretty grim.
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Actually, he doesn't. The whole purpose of the book is to describe what we have lost. His solutions are very much the old ones. Faith, prayer, critical review, repentance.

It's not an easy road back, because it seems the further you go a down the path to the Gods of to the Marketplace, the more that only the Gods of the Copybook Headings return will fix.

Posted by: Axeman at June 02, 2018 12:52 PM (JhE5a)

240 The New York Times piece on the French uprising is quite nostalgic, declaring that May of 1968 pushed France into the modern world. One photo features the images of Marx, Lenin, Mao and Trotsky (I think) at a Paris University. That's the way to introduce France into the modern world of mass murder, perhaps?

I'm sure someone has pointed it out by now, but the French invented mass murder as a political movement.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2018 12:52 PM (sdi6R)

241 I will assume chaps are worn in that tractor vid, Señor Weasel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 12:55 PM (qJtVm)

242
Here's Neil Diamond's take on all this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQLWF_ItzYs

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2018 12:56 PM (9q7Dl)

243 1968 Memories - Being a 5-year old at the Worlds Fair in San Antonio. Family photos show that there was a parallel normal culture that we lived in, far different from the hippie culture that now defines 1968.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at June 02, 2018 12:59 PM (d9Cw3)

244 Kill the Father, Not the Mother was a feminist chant staring around 1968. In other words kill the father to kill the nuclear family
Posted by: Pickles at June 02, 2018 12:51 PM (72spU)

The funny part is that women are the key to the nuclear family. As evidenced, inter alia, by the demise of the kibbutzes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:00 PM (iNpzW)

245 Not quite. JFK could speak without a teleprompter and his wife was a biological female.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 02, 2018 12:51 PM (f3MDZ)

Good point.

OTOH, Obama never got run down in a PT boat by a destroyer while he snoozed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:01 PM (iNpzW)

246 Good point.

OTOH, Obama never got run down in a PT boat by a destroyer while he snoozed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:01 PM (iNpzW)

Kennedy wasn't snoozing. He was so horny he was trying to see if there were any geisha girls on the Jap destroyer.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 01:03 PM (SiINZ)

247 I think we are seeing in Trump the last gasp of the republic as it exists now. Even if Trump wins a second term he will have to step down eventually.

I think that is when all of this is going to coming crashing down. To use a stupid millennial expression; it will become unsustainable.

Posted by: Soona at June 02, 2018 01:05 PM (Fs5vw)

248 Damn it! It looks like they moved Colorado a few hundred miles north last night while I was sleeping and I hate cold winters.

https://bit.ly/2LcHBMr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)

249 56 The infantilization of society got a big leg up with the growing deification of athletes and sports figures.....
Posted by: kallisto at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (ef0s9)
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Nah. The glorification of athletes is as characteristic of adult-oriented cultures as of adolescent-oriented ones.
What great civilization in its prime did not glorify them?

I would go so far as to say that admiration of male athletic prowess is natural and healthy --- which is why our feminized, anti-sexual rulers work so hard to undermine it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 01:07 PM (0jtPF)

250 Here is a nice informative video about madwoman Rachel Dolezol. Git in there before the SPLC/ADL thought police flag and ban it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVkgdVQrTY

Posted by: I Am The Program at June 02, 2018 01:07 PM (URzRo)

251 >>>"All the Way with LBJ" was a slogan ... '72 I think.

LBJ did not run in '72...or '68.

Posted by: cfo mom at June 02, 2018 01:08 PM (RfzVr)

252 1968? News on the tv of the Democrats riots and reports of Vietnam are faiding memories mostly because at the time I couldn't care much.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 01:08 PM (aC6Sd)

253 Lean forward!

MSNBCPR
@MSNBCPR
Happy to announce @brhodes is joining @NBCNews and @MSNBC as a Political Contributor. The former Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications for President Obama makes his debut appearance on @MeetThePress this Sunday and @allinwithchris on Monday.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 01:09 PM (+y/Ru)

254 So France was going commie in 68"

They were already there...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 02, 2018 11:52 AM (7LY+6)

Yep. France has been going commie since the 1840s, when the commies created the Paris Commune that the Russian commies idolized. Stalin loved the Commune so much that he has the actual red banners from Paris in his tomb.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 02, 2018 01:10 PM (l7Kbv)

255 Fifty years ago my father died in the A Shau Valley during Operation Delaware. 1968 was a crap year.

Posted by: Rgallegos at June 02, 2018 01:12 PM (yADbi)

256
@MSNBCPR
Happy to announce @brhodes is joining @NBCNews and @MSNBC as a Political Contributor. The former Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications for President Obama makes his debut appearance on @MeetThePress this Sunday and @allinwithchris on Monday.
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Getting ready to do Psychological projection

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 02, 2018 01:12 PM (y3aQB)

257 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 01:09 PM (+y/Ru)
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Drats

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 02, 2018 01:13 PM (y3aQB)

258 Left wing black religious leader calls Candace Owen a coon. Going out on a limb here, I don't think anything will happen to him.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 02, 2018 01:13 PM (89T5c)

259 I think we are seeing in Trump the last gasp of the republic as it exists now.

Sadly, I am inclined to agree. And that would seem to apply to Western civilization, on the whole. To paraphrase a zealous proponent of this tragic demise, the planet does indeed have leftist fever.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2018 01:16 PM (Tyii7)

260 Rgallegos

My profound condolences will never be enough.

That was the first clear example of Democrats and the GOPe undercutting US military wins on the battlefield. There have been others since then. Trying not to let it make me cynical and bitter.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 02, 2018 01:17 PM (hyuyC)

261 I thought today was supposed to be rainy, so I've just been sitting around drinking and goofing off instead of mowing the lawn.

I used to wear jeans all the time, but switched to chinos several years ago because they are looser and more comfortable. It's a fortuitous side effect that they are nicer looking.

My memories of 1968 are Denny McLain winning 31 games for the Tigers, who went on to defeat the defending champion Cardinals in the World Series, and Apollo 7 and 8.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2018 01:18 PM (sdi6R)

262 I always thought of civilization as the by-product of industrious individuals pursuing personal freedom and personal virtue. Individuals taking responsibility for their choices in life and living as they choose.

Lefties think of civilization as existing as an all-important umbrella of ideas and standards lording over individual people, where the individuals are the nonentities and the by-products of civilization.

That's why lefties impatiently pay impatient lip-service in the direction of individual rights, but demand "common sense" restrictions on those rights. That's why they like "positive rights", rights granted by government, instead of natural rights, which arise when people are conceived. That's how abortion makes sense to them, and free-speech restrictions, and limits on gun ownership, and all the rest of the ridiculous ideas they promote.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at June 02, 2018 01:20 PM (rBnYq)

263 258 Left wing black religious leader calls Candace Owen a coon. Going out on a limb here, I don't think anything will happen to him.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 02, 2018 01:13 PM (89T5c)

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Left-wing black religious "leaders" have been saying that crap about those of us that escaped the plantation a loooong time ago.

Booker T. Washington had their number way back then.

BTW Candace,

YOU GO GIRRRRRRL!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:20 PM (wedPR)

264 242

Here's Neil Diamond's take on all this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQLWF_ItzYs

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2018 12:56 PM (9q7Dl)

LOL.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 02, 2018 01:21 PM (8iiMU)

265 1968. I put a Nixon-Agnew sticker on my three-ring binder.

Posted by: grammie winger - at June 02, 2018 01:21 PM (lwiT4)

266 254 AZ Hi Desert

The Paris Commune was 1871.

I cite that date when I criticize socialism, progressivism, or communism. I specifically note 147 years of failure. Those descriptions are all slightly different flavors of bloody, wasteful, stupid failure.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 02, 2018 01:22 PM (hyuyC)

267 Left wing black religious leader calls Candace Owen a coon. Going out on a limb here, I don't think anything will happen to him.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 02, 2018 01:13 PM (89T5c)

It's not coon coon when they say it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 01:22 PM (SiINZ)

268 255 Fifty years ago my father died in the A Shau Valley during Operation Delaware. 1968 was a crap year.
Posted by: Rgallegos at June 02, 2018 01:12 PM (yADbi)

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((((Rgallegos))))

Some of us will never forget.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:23 PM (wedPR)

269 Fifty years ago my father died in the A Shau Valley during Operation Delaware. 1968 was a crap year.

Posted by: Rgallegos at June 02, 2018 01:12 PM (yADbi)
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I'm very sorry.

Posted by: grammie winger - at June 02, 2018 01:23 PM (lwiT4)

270 Gateway pundit - Trump tells aids he wants that Comey prosecuted

Oh pretty, pretty please with sugar on top

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 01:23 PM (aC6Sd)

271 Left wing black religious leader calls Candace Owen a coon.

Somehow I have the feeling that when the Day of Reckoning comes for these hateful charlatans, they will be in for quite an unpleasant surprise. Then again, maybe it won't come as a surprise at all.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 02, 2018 01:23 PM (Tyii7)

272 Hiya grammie!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:25 PM (wedPR)

273 1968 was the year before 1969, when I first started to despise the Mets. This tradition continues to this day.

Posted by: grammie winger - at June 02, 2018 01:25 PM (lwiT4)

274 Hi SMH! How ya doin? Good, I hope!

Posted by: grammie winger - at June 02, 2018 01:26 PM (lwiT4)

275 In 1968 I rode in a white station wagon with my family as we drove from a squared-away Naval Station south to Haight-Ashbury to see if we could find some dirty, long-haired hippies. And we did.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 02, 2018 01:27 PM (hyuyC)

276 56 The infantilization of society got a big leg up with the growing deification of athletes and sports figures.....
Posted by: kallisto at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (ef0s9)
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Nah. The glorification of athletes is as characteristic of adult-oriented cultures as of adolescent-oriented ones.
What great civilization in its prime did not glorify them?
I would go so far as to say that admiration of male athletic prowess is natural and healthy --- which is why our feminized, anti-sexual rulers work so hard to undermine it.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 01:07 PM (0jtPF)

Yup....some of it is normal guy stuff, but grown men dressing up in team jerseys, wearing ball caps like they did in little league 24/7 and worrying about what flavor jock strap LeBonehead is wearing is a little childish.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 02, 2018 01:28 PM (EoRCO)

277 Oops, got to go and complete some farming tasks.

Have a beautiful day. Remember, our choices, friends and family can be the bubble to keep "stupid world" from messing with us.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 02, 2018 01:28 PM (hyuyC)

278 Besides being a 5'9" mosquito bite and wishing I can scrape the skin off my bones, I'm fine.

Outside really will try to kill you.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:29 PM (wedPR)

279 1968 was the year before 1969, when I first started to despise the Mets. This tradition continues to this day.
Posted by: grammie winger - at June 02, 2018 01:25 PM (lwiT4)

Some things just stick with us.

Posted by: tbodie at June 02, 2018 01:29 PM (LtSaI)

280 270 Gateway pundit - Trump tells aids he wants that Comey prosecuted

Oh pretty, pretty please with sugar on top
Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 01:23 PM (aC6Sd)

As long as Sessions is AG, nothing will happen with any of the conspirators.

Posted by: Soona at June 02, 2018 01:30 PM (Fs5vw)

281 Reading a Koontz thriller From the Corner of His Eye that takes place in SF during '65-'68. Not sure how accurate it is as a period piece, but decadence and nihilism are provide a lot of the backdrop and the motivation for the sociopath who drives the plot.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 02, 2018 01:30 PM (/qEW2)

282 Just throwing this out there because it rocks:

https://youtu.be/a-biuRLbW34

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 02, 2018 01:31 PM (8iiMU)

283 Late to the party, but in 1968, I remember Mom sewing the Sea Bee patch on the Old Man's jungle fatigues before going to Vietnam to kill Commies. I was 7 years old and don't remember anything else that I can specifically date to 1968. I don't remember any rioting or war reporting -- pretty sure Mom kept the news off while the Old Man was deployed.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 02, 2018 01:31 PM (5Yee7)

284 Soona- yeah I think that too

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 01:33 PM (aC6Sd)

285 1968 was the Year of the Pitcher, and Bob Gibson was the pitcher of the year.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2018 11:14 AM (cY3LT)

And Denny McClain in the American League. And our team beat your team in the World Series!

Posted by: Bill R. at June 02, 2018 01:34 PM (IuYIh)

286 One of the few conservatives I know in academia is a Frog who lost an eye in the Paris riots of 1968. (Back then French cops made Daley's Chicago boys look gentle.)

He was a Maoist in 1968 but, along with a sizeable group of French commies, converted to sanity a few years later after reading Soltzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. These were the 'nouveaux philosophes' who had so much impact on Frog thought in the 70's and 80's. Some, like Bernard-Henri Levy, are still 'rock-star' intellectualoids.

My friend has nothing but good to say for this group, although he himself has moved beyond them into a more solidly traditionalist (pro-Western, pro-Christian) stance.

He drives lefties here bonkers because (1) he is a brilliant debater (2) he is French and (3) he wears an eye-patch.
Okay, moonbats don't really care about #1 --- but 2 and 3 scare them silly. It's a hoot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 01:35 PM (0jtPF)

287 56 The infantilization of society got a big leg up with the growing deification of athletes and sports figures.....
Posted by: kallisto at June 02, 2018 11:38 AM (ef0s9)

You left out the deification of celebrities and other scum.

The problem with the deification of sports figures now is that so many of them are from the ghetto, and evince ghetto values and behavior.

Sports figures of yesteryear were gentlemen to a much greater extent - certainly the ones who were admired.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:35 PM (iNpzW)

288 He drives lefties here bonkers because (1) he is a brilliant debater (2) he is French and (3) he wears an eye-patch.
Okay, moonbats don't really care about #1 --- but 2 and 3 scare them silly. It's a hoot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 01:35 PM (0jtPF)

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Heh.

Nothing wrong with eye patches.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:37 PM (wedPR)

289 I was about nine in 1968, and I just remembered how grim my parents seemed watching the TV every night... the assassinations, weekly Vietnam casualties, the cities burning, the riots... grim year indeed. About the only good thing was Apollo 8.
Posted by: GuyfromNH at June 02, 2018 11:24 AM (Gs5TH)

I turned nine in late June. I recall all that too but my world was filled with Little League baseball as well as the majors and making money with our paper route.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 02, 2018 01:38 PM (IuYIh)

290 The Paris Commune was 1871.

I cite that date when I criticize socialism, progressivism, or communism. I specifically note 147 years of failure. Those descriptions are all slightly different flavors of bloody, wasteful, stupid failure.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 02, 2018 01:22 PM (hyuyC)

I go back to 1848 for my starting point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:38 PM (iNpzW)

291 1968, and the Chicago Democratic Convention, was the beginning of the shift from the Democratic Party largely representing the interests of white working-class people, to the Democratic Party hating and despising white working-class people, and openly hoping that they die off as soon as possible.

Posted by: The ARC of History at June 02, 2018 01:38 PM (dlwIY)

292 Nothing wrong with eye patches.

They can be dashing.

Posted by: Moshe Dayan at June 02, 2018 01:38 PM (fuK7c)

293 Sports figures of yesteryear were gentlemen to a much greater extent - certainly the ones who were admired.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:35 PM (iNpzW)

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*nods*

Kenny Stabler, for example.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:39 PM (wedPR)

294 Have the Partridge Family on, ( 1971) and Mark Hamil is in it.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 01:40 PM (aC6Sd)

295 I go back to 1848 for my starting point.

1848 is a good starting point. Publication of the Communist Manifesto and revolutions across Europe.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:41 PM (fuK7c)

296 The problem with the deification of sports figures now is that so many of them are from the ghetto, and evince ghetto values and behavior.

Sports figures of yesteryear were gentlemen to a much greater extent - certainly the ones who were admired.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:35 PM (iNpzW)

I don't engage in deification of athletes, but I get that some people do. But it should be about athletic prowess, beating the odds and overcoming obstacles--not about the athlete's social or political opinions.
Le Bron James is a great basketball player--admire him for that which makes him famous. Because he's an asshat otherwise whose opinions about anything other than basketball are worthless.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 01:41 PM (7uYFy)

297 I was 3 in 1968. Using the toilet was revolutionary.

Posted by: Average Guy at June 02, 2018 01:41 PM (LMcFk)

298 Babe Ruth was deified far more than most athletes are today. And, like JFK, the stories of his womanizing were kept from the public.

As for wearing team jerseys, I think it's just a way of indicating what tribe you belong to. I was at the ballpark the other day and looked around and saw quite a few Cards fans were there. And a guy wearing a Matt Carpenter jersey just tells me the guy likes the way Carpenter plays - I don't take it as a sign that he thinks he's like Carp or wants to sniff his jock strap.

I have Brewers T-shirts. I avoid buying ones with players names on them because nowadays players usually don't stay with teams for their entire careers and I'll be a Brewer fan after those players go. But I don't assume that anybody wearing one "worships" a player, anymore than someone who wears a MAGA hat "worships" Trump.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:42 PM (H80UQ)

299 I'm watching Boomerang.

Nothing like Saturday morning cartoons.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:42 PM (wedPR)

300 Kenny Stabler, for example.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:39 PM (wedPR)

I was thinking of Stan Musial, Hank Aaron, people like that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:43 PM (iNpzW)

301 I was thinking of Stan Musial, Hank Aaron, people like that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:43 PM (iNpzW)

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Ahhh...

Eye patches, Snake studying the playbook by the light of the jukebox...

Doesn't take long for me to wax nostalgic about the Raiders of yesteryear.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:45 PM (wedPR)

302 244 Kill the Father, Not the Mother was a feminist chant staring around 1968. In other words kill the father to kill the nuclear family
Posted by: Pickles at June 02, 2018 12:51 PM (72spU)

The funny part is that women are the key to the nuclear family. As evidenced, inter alia, by the demise of the kibbutzes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:00 PM (iNpzW)

Men and women are keys to the nuclear family in a soft patriarchy. Both male and female natures need to be equally restrained or the nuclear family collapses as evidenced from the 1960's moving forward with the Great Society replacing the dad as the provider, sexual revolution allowing unrestrained hyoergamy in women, abortion on demand, feminism with their billions and billions advancing their anti male and anti family agenda, and the worst are the faggit white knights using this shit as a sexual strategy and not knowing that we are conditioned since childhood for female deference via the Mother figure, single mothers, Duluth Model making men the automatic guilty party in domestic affairs in courts/police/psychology.

There has been a war strategically planned to attack the fathers of the nuclear family in Western Civilization in order to bring it down. And it's working great.

Posted by: Pickles at June 02, 2018 01:46 PM (72spU)

303 I go back to 1848 for my starting point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:38 PM (iNpzW)
I go back to 1789.The frogs just keep making the same shitty mistake over and over again. They've produced some fine thinkers - DeTocqueville and Bastiat for instance - but they collectively ignore those thinkers and go for the crapweasels.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:46 PM (H80UQ)

304 Posted by: Lirio100 at June 02, 2018 12:04 PM (JK7Jw)

My grandparents lived on the west side off of West Outer Drive. I lived in Mt. Clemens which had some of it's own unrest. During the 67 riots, I was taught how to shoot a firearm, as well as weapons safety. I had just turned 8.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 02, 2018 01:47 PM (IuYIh)

305 Babe Ruth was deified far more than most athletes are today. And, like JFK, the stories of his womanizing were kept from the public.

But in his public persona he came across as a gentleman who cared for kids, contributed to their welfare, etc. OK, that might have been just PR, but that's OK - it's what the public perceived.

Lou Gehrig is another example of a gentleman athlete.

Ted Williams had his issues, but he volunteered and served as a fighter pilot - not as a celebrity selling war bonds - in both WWII and Korea (IIRC), and I give him huge props for that. How many of today's athletes - and especially super stars - would do something like that? The only one I can think of is Pat Tillman.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:48 PM (iNpzW)

306 but they collectively ignore those thinkers and go for the crapweasels.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:46 PM (H80UQ)

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Heh.

The more things change...

Posted by: Thomas Sowell SHH at Barky at June 02, 2018 01:48 PM (wedPR)

307 I go back to 1789.The frogs just keep making the same shitty mistake over and over again. They've produced some fine thinkers - DeTocqueville and Bastiat for instance - but they collectively ignore those thinkers and go for the crapweasels.
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The clarity of Hume can dispel this nonsense but the problem is many find being nonsensical liberating. That is until someone loses an eye.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 02, 2018 01:49 PM (vV/gB)

308 I go back to 1789.The frogs just keep making the same shitty mistake over and over again. They've produced some fine thinkers - DeTocqueville and Bastiat for instance - but they collectively ignore those thinkers and go for the crapweasels.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:46 PM (H80UQ)/i]

Good point. Rousseau (albeit he was Swiss, IIRC) was of that era, and he had SO much to answer for. "Noble savage" indeed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:50 PM (iNpzW)

309 301
I was thinking of Stan Musial, Hank Aaron, people like that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 01:43 PM (iNpzW)

True, but Tony Gwynn, Clayton Kershaw and Mariano Rivera, hell even Aaron Judge are examples of fine players who also seem to be fine human beings - so they are still out there.

Mantle was certainly not role model material, although he later repented of his earlier behavior (partly because it ended up killing him).

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:50 PM (H80UQ)

310 1848 is a good starting point. Publication of the Communist Manifesto and revolutions across Europe.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:41 PM (fuK7c)
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I think we started getting a lot of German immigrants around this time too. One of them was Carl Schurz, who became a prominent member of the Republican Party.

And the Potato Famine hit around this time.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 02, 2018 01:51 PM (qJtVm)

311 Ted Williams had his issues, but he volunteered and served as a fighter pilot - not as a celebrity selling war bonds - in both WWII and Korea (IIRC)

You recall correctly. In Korea he was John Glenn's wingman, and Glenn said he was the best Marine fighter pilot he'd ever seen. He was also supposed to be the best fly fisher by the fly fishermen he met, and he was demonstrably the best hitter ever (last .400+ batting average).

Apparently, though, he was a complete asshole, even to his friends. He could not comprehend how other people could not be perfect.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fuK7c)

312 I put it back to 1789 and mention that often.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 01:53 PM (aC6Sd)

313 You recall correctly. In Korea he was John Glenn's wingman, and Glenn said he was the best Marine fighter pilot he'd ever seen. He was also supposed to be the best fly fisher by the fly fishermen he met, and he was demonstrably the best hitter ever (last .400+ batting average).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fuK7c)

On many ways, this is the story of Obama....

...according to ValJar.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 01:55 PM (7uYFy)

314 Of to a birthday party. Catch you Morons later.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:55 PM (H80UQ)

315 This is the thread where every single person will be tempted to say: "Huh. Now that I think of it, Valerie Jarret really does look a lot like Zira".

But nobody will.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 02, 2018 01:56 PM (+BKF+)

316 This is the thread where every single person will be tempted to say:
"Huh. Now that I think of it, Valerie Jarret really does look a lot like
Zira".

But nobody will.

Because we like and respect Zira.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 02, 2018 01:58 PM (IcT7t)

317 That's strange, Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home... You know, ValJar does look like Zira... hmmm... can a Catfish have kittens? I wonder...

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 02, 2018 01:59 PM (RuIsu)

318 315 This is the thread where every single person will be tempted to say: "Huh. Now that I think of it, Valerie Jarret really does look a lot like Zira".

But nobody will.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 02, 2018 01:56 PM (+BKF+)

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Ummm...

ValJar is about two shades lighter.

Duh.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 01:59 PM (wedPR)

319 LOL Blanco!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 02:00 PM (wedPR)

320 It's interesting to me how many young athletes continue to describe themselves as Christians. They may or may not actually behave like Christians, but it's not exactly a fashionable thing to be among young people today. Even Jahr, that Czech NHL player referred to earlier, is an Orthodox Christian, which is a rarity in the very secular Czech Republic.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 02:00 PM (H80UQ)

321 True, but Tony Gwynn, Clayton Kershaw and Mariano Rivera, hell even Aaron Judge are examples of fine players who also seem to be fine human beings - so they are still out there.

Mantle was certainly not role model material, although he later repented of his earlier behavior (partly because it ended up killing him).
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 01:50 PM (H80UQ)

Good point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 02:01 PM (iNpzW)

322 Sharkman,

You should know better than to dare the 'Horde like that.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 02:01 PM (wedPR)

323 >>>But Marcuse knew that a populace engaged in pointless sexual intercourse was a populace uninterested in much of anything else; thus "polymorphous perversity" weakens the foundations of the society he sought to undermine.

Back to nature, like the Bonobosexuals. I really hope regular chimps succeed in driving them to extinction, so leftards will stop using them as the moral exemplar that we are to follow.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 02, 2018 02:02 PM (/qEW2)

324 Yep.

Zira definitely looks more humane.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 02:04 PM (wedPR)

325 Apparently, though, he was a complete asshole, even
to his friends. He could not comprehend how other people could not be
perfect.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fuK7c)
I've noticed the best baseball managers were often undistinguished players - like LaRussa for instance. Many great players were not good managers because they didn't know how to manage players who were not great.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 02:04 PM (H80UQ)

326
No short pants? Sod off you wankers!

Posted by: Angus Young at June 02, 2018 02:04 PM (4DCSq)

327 >>>"polymorphous perversity" weakens the foundations of the society

Get enough public school teachers indoctrinating kids, and they'll be able to convince them of anything.

But it's easier to get away with that if you destroy the family, and "polymorphous perversity" is an effective way to do that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 02, 2018 02:05 PM (/qEW2)

328 Kim Hunter was attractive.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 02:06 PM (IqV8l)

329 I've noticed the best baseball managers were often undistinguished players - like LaRussa for instance. Many great players were not good managers because they didn't know how to manage players who were not great.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 02:04 PM (H80UQ)

Look up the stats on Walter Alston. Again, IIRC, he had one at-bat in MLB, struck out, and two chances in the field, making one error. A .000 batting average, and a .500 fielding average ... not so good.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 02:06 PM (iNpzW)

330 True, but Tony Gwynn, Clayton Kershaw and Mariano Rivera, hell even Aaron Judge are examples of fine players who also seem to be fine human beings - so they are still out there.

There are a few players, Anthony Rizzo comes to mind who seems to be a decent person. It would be nice if more were like that and not the Crapperdicks that the MFM glorifies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 02:07 PM (SiINZ)

331 Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fuK7c)
I've noticed the best baseball managers were often undistinguished players - like LaRussa for instance. Many great players were not good managers because they didn't know how to manage players who were not great.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 02:04 PM (H80UQ)

Good point. Also many of the best managers were catchers.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

332 There are a few players, Anthony Rizzo comes to mind who seems to be a decent person. It would be nice if more were like that and not the Crapperdicks that the MFM glorifies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 02, 2018 02:07 PM (SiINZ)

I've always liked Andrew McCutcheon, both as a ballplayer and as a man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 02:10 PM (iNpzW)

333 Playing and managing players are entirely different skills, I imagine.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2018 02:13 PM (sdi6R)

334 255 Fifty years ago my father died in the A Shau Valley during Operation Delaware. 1968 was a crap year.
Posted by: Rgallegos at June 02, 2018 01:12 PM (yADbi)

That sucks. Guessing he was with the 101st or 82nd since that is where we were operating.

Posted by: dingbat at June 02, 2018 02:15 PM (1Mxoh)

335 Just put a London broil (on sale) to marinate in balsamic vinegar, rosemary and garlic. Think I will make some blue cheese butter to go with. Should go great on the grill tomorrow. Anyone ever grill avocado?

Posted by: Infidel at June 02, 2018 02:15 PM (LBSeG)

336 Apparently, though, he was a complete asshole, even to his friends. He could not comprehend how other people could not be perfect.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fuK7c)

Isn't his head somewhere on ice or has that all gone bye-bye......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 02, 2018 02:16 PM (EoRCO)

337 I wear shorts pretty much year around here in Moab, except when I go out to eat. Then I put on long pants and a nice shirt.

I was at the Chicago riots, working as a photojournalist for McGraw Hill Publications. Was in Humphrey's suite the morning the convention opened photographing him and his campaign manager. Followed the caucuses during the day and ended up at the convention opening ceremonies. From the press bus I saw the first stages of the "police riot" as it was called when the hippies were being put in their place.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 02, 2018 02:22 PM (md3fh)

338 LOL Blanco!

I made a pretty lady laugh. My work here is done.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 02, 2018 02:24 PM (IcT7t)

339 Reading a Koontz thriller From the Corner of His Eye that takes place in SF during '65-'68. Not sure how accurate it is as a period piece, but decadence and nihilism are provide a lot of the backdrop and the motivation for the sociopath who drives the plot.
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I was thinking about that book this morning when my brother-in-law mentioned that in today's movies, nobody is likeable. I remember (OK, not really) the villain's philosophy of art, something to the effect that the purpose of art is to disgust.

I also liked the cop's analogy of people, good or evil, sending out waves to others as sympathetic harmonic vibration cause guitar strings to vibrate.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 02:27 PM (+y/Ru)

340 325--I've noticed the best baseball managers were often undistinguished players - like LaRussa for instance. Many great players were not good managers because they didn't know how to manage players who were not great.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 02, 2018 02:04 PM (H80UQ)
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Hmmmm. There may be a lot of truth in that.

If, for example, you really want to learn to draw, find a teacher who can do it but was not born with natural drafting talent. Stay away from anyone who came out of the womb being able to draw a horsey! They have no idea.

I'm trying to think of any truly great (HOF) player who became a good manager. There probably are a couple --- but off the top of my head, I got nothing.

Joe Torre? He was a very good player, maybe not HOF as one, but close.
How good a manager was Frank Robinson?
I dunno.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:28 PM (0jtPF)

341 337---I was at the Chicago riots, working as a photojournalist for McGraw Hill Publications. Was in Humphrey's suite the morning the convention opened photographing him and his campaign manager. Followed the caucuses during the day and ended up at the convention opening ceremonies. From the press bus I saw the first stages of the "police riot" as it was called when the hippies were being put in their place.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 02, 2018 02:22 PM (md3fh)
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Wow! Just wow!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:30 PM (0jtPF)

342
Joe Torre? He was a very good player, maybe not HOF as one, but close.
How good a manager was Frank Robinson?
I dunno.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:28 PM (0jtPF)

He was pretty good.
Two pretty good players who became great managers of recent vintage--Joe Girardi and Mike Scoscia, both catchers.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 02:32 PM (7uYFy)

343 Afternoon Horde, It's 104 outside so I thought I'd come in and see you all are up to.

I wear Wranglers every day. I guess I'm never going to grow up.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 02, 2018 02:35 PM (fsD0E)

344 Yogi Berra was a HOF'er who became a pretty good manager

Posted by: JoeF. at June 02, 2018 02:36 PM (7uYFy)

345 Had a 15 minute cat nap, getting up at 4am every day is tough.

Posted by: Skip at June 02, 2018 02:39 PM (aC6Sd)

346 If, for example, you really want to learn to draw, find a teacher who can do it but was not born with natural drafting talent. Stay away from anyone who came out of the womb being able to draw a horsey! They have no idea.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:28 PM (0jtPF)

I've thought that many times in regard to math teaching.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 02:39 PM (iNpzW)

347
337---I was at the Chicago riots, working as a photojournalist for McGraw Hill Publications. Was in Humphrey's suite the morning the convention opened photographing him and his campaign manager. Followed the caucuses during the day and ended up at the convention opening ceremonies. From the press bus I saw the first stages of the "police riot" as it was called when the hippies were being put in their place.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 02, 2018 02:22 PM (md3fh)
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Wow! Just wow!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:30 PM

Medium Cool

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 02, 2018 02:40 PM (IqV8l)

348 Yes, catchers!

Has there ever been a pitcher who became a decent manager? I think not.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:43 PM (0jtPF)

349 Disney not woke enough.

Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders
While Disney's CEO makes up to $423 million:

- 1 in 10 Disneyland workers have been homeless in the past 2 years
- More than 2 in 3 are food insecure
- 3 in 4 don't make enough money to afford basic needs

This isn't what Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck are supposed to be about.

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You know what else? They don't hire fat, ugly chicks or men to play Snow White!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

350 Former Pittsburgh Pirate Bruce Kison passed away
+++++
http://bit.ly/2LefbBS

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 02, 2018 02:44 PM (y3aQB)

351 I was also a witness to the MLK riots in Chicago. The place where I worked had a sandbag pillbox in the intersection out front with a LMG set up by NG. It was the day after the riots and the first time I carried a pistol to work.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 02, 2018 02:45 PM (md3fh)

352 It's that damned Scrooge McDuck that took all the money away from the poor Disney employees. F the Duck.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 02, 2018 02:49 PM (md3fh)

353 I was a boy old enough to apprehend it was revolutionary, often violently so, times in '68. Someone who did a good job of chronically the often dark and forgotten forays into occultism was Gary Lachman in "Turn Off Your Mind."While he didn't explicitly tie this individual experimental mysticism to the larger political upheaval, it's easy to understand why young people exhorted to embrace messianic, cult of personality politics would drift into the spiritual equivalent. Unquestioned fealty to murderous icons like Che and Mao was a natural way station on the journey to Manson and Hare Krishna. Lachman is surprisingly thoughtful for a musician, no offense intended.

We never really recovered from the massive narcissism of that time and it really seeded the ground for today's individual and cultural rot. Fuck you, John Lennon.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 02, 2018 02:51 PM (iAjUQ)

354 You know what else? They don't hire fat, ugly chicks or men to play Snow White!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

Spoiler alert: Snow White is a trap.

Posted by: Isner 2020 at June 02, 2018 02:54 PM (72spU)

355 I wear Wranglers every day. I guess I'm never going to grow up.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 02, 2018 02:35 PM (fsD0E)

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*fistbump*

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 02, 2018 02:55 PM (wedPR)

356 Another event in 1968 was the launch of Apollo 6. It didn't get a lot of notice at the time because Martin Luther King was assassinated the same evening.

Apollo 6 was the second unmanned test flight of the Saturn V rocket and Apollo spacecraft. The first test, Apollo 4 in November 1967, was almost flawless.

Apollo 6, not so much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_6

Reading that description is cringe-inducing. Almost everything that could go wrong did. It's almost a miracle that the Command Module returned to Earth in one piece.

NASA's reaction? "Close enough. Let's put a crew on the next one and send it to the Moon."

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2018 02:55 PM (sdi6R)

357 "More than 2 in 3 are food insecure."
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That includes my husband.
I can hear his stomach rumbling all the way across the house.
Sheesh.
I guess I'd better get over to Kroger before it rains.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 02, 2018 02:57 PM (0jtPF)

358 Roger Scruton was in Paris in 1968. He wrote that seeing the leftists finally convinced him he was on the other side. (The trouble with Walsh is that he is writing in direct competition with the Rogers, Scruton and Kimball. And frankly, he doesn't pack the heft.)

Posted by: George LeS at June 02, 2018 02:59 PM (59GGI)

359 I am usually food insecure three times a day, right before breakfast, right before lunch and right before dinner. But I manage to get over it. I persevere. And eat.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 02, 2018 03:10 PM (md3fh)

360 159 Also, 1968 was the year of the monkey.

I'm a monkey man!

Posted by: Mick Jagger at June 02, 2018 12:15 PM (H80UQ)
Me too!
Posted by: Peter Tork at June 02, 2018 12:17 PM (H80UQ)

Posted by: Peter Gabriel at June 02, 2018 03:14 PM (qQk+U)

361 I'm shocked!

Posted by: Peter Gabriel at June 02, 2018 03:14 PM (qQk+U)

362 "More than 2 in 3 are food insecure."

Another bullshit leftist made-up statistic, much like 7 out of 5 women are raped in college every weekend, and twice on Super Bowl Sunday.

Their next campaign will be for free gym memberships to fight obesity. You heard it here first.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 03:18 PM (iNpzW)

363 Jury gives 4 cents to family of black man killed by cop...

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You know what the real shame is? The lawyers will take 3 cents of it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 03:18 PM (+y/Ru)

364 363 Jury gives 4 cents to family of black man killed by cop...

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You know what the real shame is? The lawyers will take 3 cents of it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 02, 2018 03:18 PM (+y/Ru)

Where was this?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 03:30 PM (iNpzW)

365 Never mind, I just found it.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article212324564.html

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 02, 2018 03:32 PM (iNpzW)

366 Kimball's essay is remarkable. Accurate, with very good quotations from a lot of the players. Have sent links to the chilluns.

The USA has had a few religious "awakenings," and this would be a good time for another one. We simply cannot allow actual virtue to become merely a memory, whether in ourselves OR in our political leadership.

Posted by: dad29 at June 02, 2018 04:28 PM (7Kti7)

367 That sucks. Guessing he was with the 101st or 82nd since that is where we were operating.
Posted by: dingbat at June 02, 2018 02:15 PM (1Mxoh)

Yes, 101st Airborne...Screamig Eagles

Thanks you all!

Posted by: Rgallegos at June 02, 2018 04:31 PM (59GQk)

368 Why did the film makers go out of their way to make Dr. Zira more young, sexy and appealing in the reboot? As chimps go, you don't think they altered Ari to look more svelte and human in the newer version? Why?

Is bestiality a thing now with the Leftys and Hollywood?

Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2018 05:01 PM (J7XgW)

369 The San Francisco Comical.

Posted by: Minerva at June 02, 2018 05:45 PM (LlRuQ)

370 In '68, my roommate and I put a Nixon-Agnew decal on the window of our ground-level dorm window. He and I were both college JV-level athletes and had been student-body officer types in HS.
It didn't take too long for us to figure out that, as Barry Soetoro now puts it, we were on the wrong side of history. All the really good-looking girls were hanging around the long-haired guys you could find in the campus anti-war demonstrations. Our fringe status in what had once been the jock aristocracy was worthless.
And, like waving a beefsteak in front of a starving man, many of those same women tortured us with the badge of female awareness, no bras.
It was a real education.

Posted by: Jim Flimsy at June 02, 2018 07:22 PM (i/UP/)

371 No one will read this, but I'll share anyhow:

Somehow, when I was a kid, we aquired an oldish 1970 New York Times World Almanac. It mostly covered events from 1969, but also a fair amount of events from 1968. The book was kept in the bathroom for those moments when it was time to "catch up on some reading." (Our family euphemism for moving one's bowels.)

Anyhow, it was in our bathroom for years. YEARS. I used to know an insane amount about 1968-1969. Like Danny the Red, Bernadette Devlin, the Chicago Eight, the Cinderella Mets... So I knew about the Paris Riots. When I visit Paris in high school, I looked for the sites of the riots. Not real interesting.

Posted by: Lee at June 02, 2018 08:41 PM (JFxGC)

372 1968 was a great year to be a 13 year-old in a small Southern town

Posted by: tmitsss at June 02, 2018 08:53 PM (AGqRh)

373 My dad was a deputy sheriff in Cook County. My mother told us that she sat in the kitchen by the phone and cried all night when my dad was sent to the west side riots after the MLK, Jr. assassination. And when he got home my dad was so tired he left his gun on top of the dresser in their room instead of locking it up and she yelled at him and felt terrible about it later. And that was the only time he ever did that. I was too young to remember anything personally.

Posted by: Gem at June 02, 2018 09:57 PM (XoAz8)

374 I disliked the second half of 1968 intensely. Apollo 8, however, is one of my fondest memories of all my lifetime.

Three generations gathered in the family room to witness what we knew was greatness, which we believed was the future - and it was wrapped around trancendance and our simultaneos smallness and greatness as Americans and human beings. "God bless all of you, all of you on the good Earth."

That was a Christmas, and its everything I think America threw away chasing a nothing.

Posted by: sarahw at June 03, 2018 12:43 PM (Sp1NT)

375 I had Yamaha music lessons in 68. I had a cool little magnetic note kit and a strange japanses-face eraser came with it and Mom drove across town so my siblings and I could learn to read music and finger notes on tiny little electronic keyboards with the new-fangled teaching method.

One spring afternoon we drove home the usual way, past a large open field but this day three young kids of color ran across the field yelling and they thew rocks at the car.
That was the day after MLK was shot, something I didn't know much about but I didn't understand why these kids through it was my fault. It didn't really seem fair I didn't shoot anybody.

Posted by: sarahw at June 03, 2018 12:50 PM (Sp1NT)

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