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Memorial Day Weekend Open Thread





Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:56 PM




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1 Many thanks to all who serve, and prayers and gratitude to those who gave their lives in doing so.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 25, 2018 06:49 PM (hMwEB)

2 Los Testiculos Grandes.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:50 PM (LAe3v)

3 http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2002699753/
30,000 officers and men, Camp Custer, Battle Creek, Michigan.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:50 PM (0QYMt)

4 Hooah.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 25, 2018 06:51 PM (7qyhD)

5 Yeah, you know, all in all, we'd rather not have been involved. Just sayin'.

Posted by: WWI horses at May 25, 2018 06:51 PM (LAe3v)

6 My father's father was a machine gunner in The 3rd Infantry Division "Rock of the Marne." In 1918.

He was affected by his service.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 06:52 PM (hyuyC)

7 I was just thinking, that bullet track on Sr. Pantoja's face is the exact equivalent of a Heidelberg dueling scar. Well, except for the whole "those guys were seriously trying to kill me" thing.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (LAe3v)

8 The war did not end in 1918.
http://www.worldwar1centennial.org
/index.php/michigan-in-ww1-places/8:polar-bear-monument.html

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (0QYMt)

9 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.

Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (w7KSn)

10 Probably not as many horses killed in WW2 but they were still used extensively.

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (LiyEm)

11 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.
Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (w7KSn)

Amen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 06:54 PM (SjImc)

12 Those are great tributes. Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2018 06:54 PM (0bRDi)

13 Just saw 12 Strong recently, it had war horses.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 25, 2018 06:54 PM (hMwEB)

14 One of the saddest things about WWI was that the French built entire towns to house the mutilated veterans, so that they wouldn't frighten the children. Think about that.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:55 PM (LAe3v)

15 My father's father was Canadian, in 1916 he joined the Royal Flying Corps. Sopwith Camel.
I have his pictures.

(Or as my brother's SF friends say "That's badass.")

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:55 PM (0QYMt)

16 Thanks to my grandfathers, two great uncles, My uncle, numerous cousins, and my Dad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (vpyVq)

17 PDT shook the hand of all 1100 Academy officers.

Thank you Mr. President.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (JFO2v)

18

Amen.
Time for a toast.

Have a safe and relaxing weekend.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (fceHP)

19 Grandfather was almost court martialed in Great Britain during WWII for shouting for joy when he heard FDR's death announced. "The son of a bitch is dead! The war will be over in six months!" And it was.

Posted by: Jmel at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (OeWgo)

20 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.

Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (w7KSn)

A glass raised, for those who never came home.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (0QYMt)

21 Head bowed and hand over heart. Thanking and remembering those that gave all.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2018 06:57 PM (und0g)

22 PDT shook the hand of all 1100 Academy officers.



Thank you Mr. President.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (JFO2v)

Class shows by action.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:57 PM (0QYMt)

23 2 Los Testiculos Grandes.
Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:50 PM (LAe3v)

I get that when I have Epididymitis

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 06:57 PM (JFO2v)

24
"Are those locally-sourced vegetarian burgers? I'm a vegan, you know." - SJW at a cookout.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 06:58 PM (yZKWR)

25 That horsehead, eewwwchh!

Posted by: Jack Woltz, Woltz International Pictures at May 25, 2018 06:58 PM (CPfoe)

26 Prayers for and thanks to your dad, navybrat.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 25, 2018 06:58 PM (hMwEB)

27 Interesting photo of the WWI unit; wonder if it was veterinary medical unit? Saw some men wearing what looked like white lab coats.

And a hearty "Well done," to the modern medic.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 06:58 PM (5Yee7)

28 ]24


"Are those locally-sourced vegetarian burgers? I'm a vegan, you know." - SJW at a cookout.





Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Really? I had you pegged for a pretentious dickhead.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:59 PM (LAe3v)

29 8 The war did not end in 1918.
http://www.worldwar1centennial.org
/index.php/michigan-in-ww1-places/8:polar-bear-monument.html
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (0QYMt)

Fighting that started in WWI didn't end until the Greeks & Turks made peace in 1923

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2018 06:59 PM (ANIFC)

30
Probably not as many horses killed in WW2 but they were still used extensively.


The German army was still pretty much horse drawn in WWII

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2018 06:59 PM (10vO4)

31 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.



Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (w7KSn)

A glass raised, for those who never came home.


Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 06:56 PM (0QYMt)

hear, hear. and although we should think of vets and servicemen every day, Memorial Day is for those killed in war.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 06:59 PM (n13/j)

32 One tough hombre. Combat can bring out the best and worst in men.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:00 PM (vV/gB)

33 6 My father's father was a machine gunner in The 3rd Infantry Division "Rock of the Marne." In 1918.

He was affected by his service.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 06:52 PM (hyuyC)

Eisenhower ran a group of French 88s. I think they could only fire for a few rounds and had to cycle guns.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 07:00 PM (JFO2v)

34 OT. Just got back From Independence, Missouri.

I met Jewells45, and she is as nice as she is talented. I bought a few things for my Emergence Marriage Repair Kit.

She will be open tomorrow so stop on by. She has some really beautiful jewelry.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 07:00 PM (hyuyC)

35 God bless all who served and paid the ultimate price for our liberty.

Especially my Uncle Robert who lost his life when his ship was sunk at Guadalcanal.

Heroes all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2018 07:01 PM (EoRCO)

36 Happy Memorial Day weekend and thanks to everyone who served our great country.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2018 07:01 PM (p9m3t)

37
Grateful thanks to all of you who have served and defended this country and her citizens.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2018 07:01 PM (NoLse)

38 One of the saddest things about WWI was that the French built entire towns to house the mutilated veterans, so that they wouldn't frighten the children. Think about that.
Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:55 PM (LAe3v)


One positive thing that came out of it is that modern reconstructive surgery and battlefield medicine got a significant boost from WWI experience.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (y87Qq)

39 30
Probably not as many horses killed in WW2 but they were still used extensively.


The German army was still pretty much horse drawn in WWII
----------------------
Only about 10% of the German army was fully motorized. The rest used horses and carts for their daily log needs.

The US Army was the world's first fully mechanized Army.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (vV/gB)

40 One of the saddest things about WWI was that the French built entire towns to house the mutilated veterans, so that they wouldn't frighten the children. Think about that.
Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 06:55 PM (LAe3v)


I've read that WWI was what made facial reconstructive surgery a new branch of the medical arts. Due to the men being in trenches, their heads and faces were more vulnerable than their bodies.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (5Yee7)

41 Thank you to all who gave their last full measure defending our G-d given inalienable rights.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (jDqdz)

42 I'm too old now to find out what I would do in a real combat situation. I suppose I would not be one of the leaders. More of an analyst, really. Best I can do is pay homage to those who are more suited to the rough and tumble.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (LAe3v)

43 Thank you to all who gave their last full measure defending our G-d given inalienable rights.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (jDqdz)

Amen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:03 PM (SjImc)

44 #14 pep.
Yeah. Medical care had improved so that many wounds which would have killed you in earlier wars were survivable. And they'd gotten a handle on sepsis which might kill you even if you survived the wound and the treatment.
But corrective and reconstructive surgery were not a thing.
So, instead of being a name on the wall of a little country church, your uncle was in the upstairs bedroom, unable to manage his own hygiene. Or he took so achingly long to struggle on and off the bus. Or he had the ruined side of his face toward the wall as he went down the street, crossing over when he came back.
And the French built resorts for guys who were so hideously mutilated they wouldn't come out in public. God bless the people who worked there.
And twenty years later, the bastards did it again.
People were really, really pissed.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at May 25, 2018 07:03 PM (bcw4+)

45 9 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.
Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM (w7KSn)

Many prayers. I lost my Dad best friend when I was 36 and still hurt today.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 07:03 PM (JFO2v)

46 Is this the line to the all-you-can-eat, a la carte buffet?

Posted by: William Kristol, Editor-At-Large at May 25, 2018 07:03 PM (J7XgW)

47
"Are those locally-sourced vegetarian burgers? I'm a vegan, you know." - SJW at a cookout.


Well, good for you!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2018 07:05 PM (NoLse)

48 If the Germans had been better mechanized at the start of Barbarossa, the tactics of Kern unt Kessel would have worked better and fewer Soviet troops would have escaped to fight again.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:05 PM (jDqdz)

49 Thanks to my uncles Daniel and John, both killed in action in WW II.

Always remembered.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer, Tall Imperial Majesty . . . at May 25, 2018 07:05 PM (fqUgw)

50 46
Is this the line to the all-you-can-eat, a la carte buffet?


Posted by: William Kristol, Editor-At-Large

Nope, it's the line to clean the heads. Grab a brush, you pussy.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:05 PM (LAe3v)

51 More Jewells45 info

Even if, in the unlikely event, you have no woman to buy for, there are more activities there.

I saw some dancing couples competing in a room nearby. Guys, you should closely examine the female form in motion, and the scandalous lack of clothing under their flying multicolored fringes.

Makes a man think of his spouse. "Wink"

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 07:05 PM (hyuyC)

52 By 1917 the British Army were employing over 530,000 horses and 230,000 mules. Large numbers of horses were killed and wounded during the war. Others became lame or sick. The British Army discovered they needed to buy about 15,000 horses a month to maintain the number they needed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 07:06 PM (JFO2v)

53 That movie "War Horse" was one of the most moving and highly emotionally charged movies I ever saw in my life.
Highly recommended.

Thanks for the glasses raised.
If I am tough on commies, that is why.

I envy my Dad, he got paid to kill commies.
Probably would have done it for free.

Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 07:06 PM (w7KSn)

54 My Dad went from Guadacanal to Bouganville to Guam to Iwo Jima where he almost died. Oddly, he loved every moment of it. The odd thing is my mothers birthday was the day he went ashore at Iwo and my birthday was the day he was shot. Weird.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:06 PM (vV/gB)

55 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.
Posted by: navybrat
---May his memory be eternal.

RIP Lt. Bill White - KIA March 1953 Vegas Outpost Korea, E 2/7 1MARDIV

Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2018 07:07 PM (9rIkM)

56 We had to go back to horses for some parts of Afghanistan.

Horses in war, what are they good for - Absolutely everything.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2018 07:07 PM (und0g)

57 To those that served, and those that gave their all so we may be free:

Hand Salute.

Two.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 07:07 PM (hyuyC)

58 World War I in photos:

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/04/world-war-i-in-photos-soldiers-and-civilians/507329/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (qJtVm)

59 Many young American patriots enlisted in the military service when the planes hit the towers.

Liistening to a SEmconish interview with CNN ANdrew Como, Andrew recalled he proposed to his girlfriend when the planes hit the towers because it was time to get his life in order.

Why we have Trump

Posted by: redenzo at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (14qvS)

60 My Dad went from Guadacanal to Bouganville to Guam to Iwo Jima where he almost died. Oddly, he loved every moment of it. The odd thing is my mothers birthday was the day he went ashore at Iwo and my birthday was the day he was shot. Weird.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:06 PM (vV/gB)

My Dad was on Iwo Jima also and the only reason I think I am here today is because of Fat Man and Little Boy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (SjImc)

61 The US Army was the world's first fully mechanized Army.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (vV/gB)


The British Army did a lot of mechanization, too. It certainly helped them get out of the trap that the Germans created for them in France 1940. The Germans were surprised by the rapidity of the British retreat and found their Bren Gun Carriers to be rather intimidating (that was before anti-tank grenades for infantry were developed).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (5Yee7)

62 It would be an honor to buy Doc Pantoja a beer.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (zLDYs)

63 48
If the Germans had been better mechanized at the start of Barbarossa,
the tactics of Kern unt Kessel would have worked better and fewer Soviet
troops would have escaped to fight again.

Posted by: Anna Puma

Down coats might also have helped.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (LAe3v)

64 "Are those locally-sourced vegetarian burgers? I'm a vegan, you know." - SJW at a cookout.

Why, yes! Yes they are!

Posted by: tu3031 at May 25, 2018 07:09 PM (O5Q3r)

65 Max, as always, is observing Memorial Day:

https://terminallance.com/

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 07:09 PM (y87Qq)

66 I knew this was a smart military blog!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 25, 2018 07:10 PM (wdmm9)

67
One of the saddest things about WWI was that the French built entire towns to house the mutilated veterans, so that they wouldn't frighten the children. Think about that.


Another sad thing is that there are parts of what were the trenches of the Western Front that are still unsafe to visit because of unexploded ordinance, including chemical weapons. Whole villages were destroyed and neither rebuilt nor repopulated. "Zones Rouge".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2018 07:10 PM (NoLse)

68 Been home before 2pm and just got control of my tablet from wife.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:11 PM (aC6Sd)

69 8 million horses. Wow. At least John Kerry's dad survived.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 25, 2018 07:11 PM (wdmm9)

70 and to think of how hard they fought to one day ensure trannies in bathrooms and muslim takeover of the west. Because that's who we are.

Posted by: jake jortles at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (uFoR1)

71 My Dad was on Iwo Jima also and the only reason I think I am here today is because of Fat Man and Little Boy
---------------------
What division? All three of them were so badly mauled by 30 days on Iwo that it would have taken at least six months to reform them. Okinawa was just as brutal. Thank God for Truman.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (vV/gB)

72
My Dad was on Iwo Jima also and the only reason I think I am here today is because of Fat Man and Little Boy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (SjImc)


My dad was on a destroyer at Iwo

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (10vO4)

73 The US Army was the world's first fully mechanized Army.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (vV/gB)


My old boss used to say that the U.S. Army's greatest strengths in WWII were trucks and artillery.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (Tnhbr)

74 Max, as always, is observing Memorial Day:

https://terminallance.com/
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 07:09 PM (y87Qq)

That's great...I just shared that on FB
Thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (SjImc)

75 Yes "War Horse" is an excellent movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (jDqdz)

76 I raise my glass to each and every military member since the beginning of our country who has paid for our freedom with their life. God bless you all and keep you in his arms.

I would simply assure you that your sacrifice was not in vain, nor lost from our memory.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 25, 2018 07:13 PM (L+pr4)

77 The US Army was the world's first fully mechanized Army.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (vV/gB)



I would say the Red Army was the first fully mechanized army, ca. 1941. Thanks to America.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2018 07:13 PM (CPfoe)

78 My dad was on a destroyer at Iwo
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (10vO4)

Fat Man, Little Boy, and Truman saved a lot of our Dads

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:14 PM (SjImc)

79 I can't even watch old war movies any more without thinking, "what a hell of a waste of fine young German men". I have that luxury.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:14 PM (LAe3v)

80
Eisenhower ran a group of French 88s. I think they could only fire for a few rounds and had to cycle guns.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2018 07:00 PM (JFO2v)

34
OT. Just got back From Independence, Missouri.


Speaking about artillery officers.....
The quote I heard was "Get the hell back here you god-damned Irish sons-of-bitches!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 07:15 PM (0QYMt)

81 The last US WWI vet died in 2011. There's about half a million WWII vets still alive. We lose about 300 a day.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 25, 2018 07:15 PM (O5Q3r)

82 My old boss used to say that the U.S. Army's greatest strengths in WWII were trucks and artillery.
----------------------------------
One other big winner was the Variable Time fuze. Its what introduced roofs on top of armored personnel carriers.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (vV/gB)

83 Been home before 2pm and just got control of my tablet from wife.
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:11 PM (aC6Sd)

I've got an old one I could send you.

Posted by: golfman at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (If3tB)

84 Even the Red Army was still driven by animals even though the US supplied many a truck and trains.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (aC6Sd)

85 This is why we are all here. We honor the sacrifice of others so that we can continue to guard our freedom.

This is why every fucking leftist needs to

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (und0g)

86 Invasion of Japan - one million Allied dead, injured, or missing. That was the estimate before Iwo Jima.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (jDqdz)

87 One other big winner was the Variable Time fuze.
Is that the same as a proximity fuze?

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:17 PM (LAe3v)

88 Oh God is this one so true:

https://terminallance.com/2018/05/18/terminal-lance-516-the-piggyback/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)

89 Revolutionary War: 6,824 KIA, 50,000 from other causes
War of 1812: 2,200 KIA, 13,000 from other cause
Mexican-American War: 1,733 KIA, 11,500 from other causes
Civil War: 655,000
Indian Wars: 1,505
Spanish-American War: 2,910
Phillippine-American War: 6,165
WW I: 53,402
WW II: 407,300
Korea: 36,574
Viet Nam: 58,315
Beirut: 260
Grenada: 19
Panama: 23
Gulf War: 248
Somalia: 18
Afghanistan War: 2,356
Iraq War: 4,491
Various other police actions: 5,608

Total: 1,319,451


 In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 25, 2018 07:18 PM (C1NyB)

90 Invasion of Japan - one million Allied dead, injured, or missing. That was the estimate before Iwo Jima.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (jDqdz)

And BEFORE Okinawa

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:18 PM (SjImc)

91 The US Army was the world's first fully mechanized Army.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM (vV/gB)

In Italy and North Africa they did have mules for logistics because - believe it or not - there are some places a jeep cannot go. Goodness knows they tried.


(Note: The BEF in 1939-1940 was fully motorized.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 07:18 PM (0QYMt)

92 There is a supply ship loaded with train engines at the bottom of the North Sea

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:18 PM (aC6Sd)

93 86
Invasion of Japan - one million Allied dead, injured, or missing. That was the estimate before Iwo Jima.

Posted by: Anna Puma

My father was NROTC and was literally months late for the war. I suspect I might not be here if not for the A-bomb. I'm sure he would have been in the first wave.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:18 PM (LAe3v)

94 Oh God is this one so true:
https://terminallance.com/2018/05/18/terminal-lance-516-the-piggyback/
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)


They all are. Love that comic (and I'm not even a Marine).

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 07:18 PM (y87Qq)

95 so is this the thread for the weekend?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 25, 2018 07:19 PM (MTjB1)

96 Cicero (@cicero)

Maybe just the attack elements. The Soviets also rode on their very numerous tanks into combat.

The Mechanized Corps and Tank Corps were motorized, but not the logistic services or the line-holding infantry. The Russians got a lot of trucks, but they were using them up fast as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 07:19 PM (hyuyC)

97 Salute Doc Jose Pantoja!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2018 07:19 PM (3oX+R)

98 From the last thread:

>>>the Justice League of New York City,


Like, the superhero one?


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2018 07:19 PM (8iiMU)

99 Even the Red Army was still driven by animals even though the US supplied many a truck and trains.

I did not know the extent of Germany's reliance on horses in World War II until I read VDH's new book.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (08G9c)

100 so is this the thread for the weekend?
Posted by: yankeefifth


Yes. We'll get a new one Tuesday morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (3oX+R)

101 The radar proximity fuse was one of the great secrets and game changers of WWII for anti-aircraft fire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (jDqdz)

102 Just a simple thank you for those who gave the ultimate gift to this country

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (3Pma+)

103
Invasion of Japan - one million Allied dead, injured, or missing. That was the estimate before Iwo Jima.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (jDqdz)


The Okinawa model doubled those projections

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (10vO4)

104 Mastodon for prior thread

https://youtu.be/lAihDAJX8Ow

Posted by: DaveA at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (FhXTo)

105 Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (3oX+R)


Nope

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 25, 2018 07:21 PM (3Pma+)

106 The Marine Corps' colors have joined the National Ensign on the front of the house for the weekend. I think of SSgt Don May 1st Tank Bn, 1st Marine Division, 29 Palms, killed in Nasiriyah, Iraq in 2003. I think of Sgt Luke Pyeatt of 2d Radio Battalion, II MEF Camp Lejeune, NC KIA near the Kajaki Dam in Helmand Province Afghanistan, Feb 2011 (my battalion) and Sgt Daniel Gurr, 3rd Recon Bn, 3rd Marine Division, Okinawa, Japan killed ivo Sangin, Helmand Province, Afghanistan Aug 2011.

I am fortunate enough to toast their sacrifice, I hope they find me worthy to join them when I finally go ashore.

Also, my Dad, Commander USNR Retired, who graduated from USNA 55 years ago. I think he would have been pretty excited to see the President shake each and every graduate's hand today.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at May 25, 2018 07:21 PM (DxWUs)

107 Yes. We'll get a new one Tuesday morning.
Posted by: rickb223 at May




well it will be epic but not respectable.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 25, 2018 07:21 PM (MTjB1)

108 95 so is this the thread for the weekend?

Yep, only thread until the gun thread on Sunday night, we should be able to get to 5k.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:21 PM (aC6Sd)

109 Maybe just the attack elements. The Soviets also rode on their very numerous tanks into combat.


I know I rode on the backs of a few T-72's on Call of Duty WWII.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2018 07:21 PM (3oX+R)

110 I wonder if former president cock curious still sees fallen veterans on this holiday weekend when he beer-summits with TOTUS near his taxpayer-funded backyard grill.

Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2018 07:22 PM (J7XgW)

111 87 One other big winner was the Variable Time fuze.
Is that the same as a proximity fuze?
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Not sure what a proximity fuze is. A Variable Time Fuze can be set to explode over a target rather than explode on contact. This allows the shrapnel to rain down on troops in foxholes/trenches/trucks/halftracks and deliver higher casualties than impact rounds. The Germans, Italians and Japanese did not have them. It was a US invention.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:22 PM (vV/gB)

112 Happy Memorial Day weekend my friends and thank you for the sacrifices your soldiers made for all of us.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2018 07:22 PM (eAMlh)

113 My mom's dad died in ww2 pacific, mine sweep detail gone bad. I wish i had more info.

My father did a tour in korea before i was even a thought, the married and i saw him go to vietnam twice.

He never wanted to talk about those tours till near his end.

Most telling is he said by all that makes sense he should have been dead four times before.

A guardian angel he believed

Posted by: Loneranger at May 25, 2018 07:23 PM (n8kwn)

114 @73
My old boss used to say that the U.S. Army's greatest strengths in WWII were trucks and artillery.
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More than he might have realized. It was American trucks that allowed the Red Army to maintain the pace it needed to destroy Army Group Center during Operation Bagration during the Summer of 1944. The disaster of the simultaneous collapses of both the East and West fronts meant that Germany was out of the war less than twelve months later.

Posted by: junior at May 25, 2018 07:23 PM (zOFlX)

115 Military service runs in my family but we've been fortunate that they all survived combat.

Great Great Grandfather: American Civil War - wounded
Great Uncle: Iwo Jima - wounded
The Old Man: Vietnam - wounded

I also have vague memories of an "Uncle" that was aPolish Army officer in WWII, but I think he and one of my Great Aunts lived in sin - based on recalling whispered comments made when the adults didn't think I was listening. He saw combat, too, and didn't like Germans or Russians.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:24 PM (5Yee7)

116 112
Happy Memorial Day weekend my friends and thank you for the sacrifices your soldiers made for all of us.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2018 07:22 PM (eAMlh)

Ditto to my northern peers of the Canadian Forces, I wore my Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry shirt to hockey last week. As the Memorial Cup tournament was getting started. Good muldoons up there in Regina.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at May 25, 2018 07:24 PM (DxWUs)

117 Please note the numbers above have not been adjusted for Iraq, Afganistan, and various police actions in a couple years. I'll see to that this weekend.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 25, 2018 07:24 PM (C1NyB)

118 Supposed to be a crappy weather weekend, it rained last year canceled the parade.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:24 PM (aC6Sd)

119 Not sure what a proximity fuze is.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:22 PM (vV/gB)


Radar proximity fuze, used in anti-aircraft shells as mentioned by Anna Puma. What the VT fuze and TOT fires did for artillery, proximity fuzes did for AA.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 07:24 PM (y87Qq)

120 My Dad was on Iwo Jima also and the only reason I think I am here today is because of Fat Man and Little Boy

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even a very liberal girl I dated admitted that her gramps wouldn't be here if it wasn't for nukes, and that was ok regardless of whatever other lib harridans would say

Posted by: jake jortles at May 25, 2018 07:25 PM (uFoR1)

121
My old boss used to say that the U.S. Army's greatest strengths in WWII were trucks and artillery. ---------------------

Captured German soldiers marvaled at how many trucks the U.S, Army had

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2018 07:25 PM (10vO4)

122 One other big winner was the Variable Time fuze.
Is that the same as a proximity fuze?

Let's not forget the LCVPs or better known as the Higgins landing crafts. Island Hopping, Sicily, Anzio, and Normandy does not happen without them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:25 PM (SjImc)

123 God bless all those who served.
Still considering joining a reserve unit once I get under 220. 40lbs to go.

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 25, 2018 07:26 PM (IYHxL)

124 God bless all the men and women who have served and are serving our nation.

And all the horses and dogs too.

Thank You

Posted by: gNewt at May 25, 2018 07:26 PM (lDIk/)

125 Possibly the most tone deaf Memorial Day sale ad of all time.

https://bit.ly/2J7013K

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 07:26 PM (+y/Ru)

126 Thanks to all who served.

Posted by: DaveA at May 25, 2018 07:26 PM (FhXTo)

127
Invasion of Japan - one million Allied dead, injured, or missing. That was the estimate before Iwo Jima.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2018 07:16 PM (jDqdz)



And BEFORE Okinawa
My father was a Marine on Okinawa. BAR man. Didn't get a scratch. Figured he used up all his luck and would get killed for sure in Japan. They did the old "look to your right and left. One of you is gonna probably be dead". Also told them to be prepared to kill EVERYTHING. Men, women, kids, old people. He was 17 years old. But he didn't have to go and from then on his favorite president was Harry Truman.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 25, 2018 07:26 PM (O5Q3r)

128 111
87 One other big winner was the Variable Time fuze.

Is that the same as a proximity fuze?

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Not sure what a proximity fuze is.


Radar-fuzed shell that exploded when in proximity to a target. IIRC, the Japs began to suspect something when we started knocking their planes out in great numbers. Numbers that could not be explained by marksmanship.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:27 PM (LAe3v)

129 Somehow my family fell between the wars, only my uncle was in Vietnam. A holiday last year he found some pictures and showed them around.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:27 PM (aC6Sd)

130 He saw combat, too, and didn't like Germans or Russians.
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Did he get to Britain? If not, he had a very short war.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:28 PM (vV/gB)

131 Thank you, Ace for being more entertaining than anything out of Hollywood, and more informative than the mainstream media.

God bless all those who lost their lives defending our country.

Posted by: Chase at May 25, 2018 07:28 PM (RbV5J)

132 When men were men, and trannies kept it to themselves.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2018 07:29 PM (HxiHD)

133 My neighbor's dad was KIA in VietNam.
He and I are the only 2 registered (R) for blocks and blocks.
We will drink some beers on Monday.
Both our Dads are buried at the Presidio.
Here's to all the fallen, may their memories grace us all forever.
See you all on the gun thread. Or the pet thread, whichever comes first.

Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 07:29 PM (w7KSn)

134 Afaik all my parents and grandparents were civilians.
I am truly grateful for those who serve to keep us safe.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 25, 2018 07:30 PM (hMwEB)

135

There are thanks to be given as well to the logisticians. Getting the right stuff to the right places in sufficient amount and when needed is an art the US practically invented.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 07:31 PM (pawu0)

136 Nacly, are you having an emergency, or is this just good prior planning?

Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2018 07:31 PM (zkOmb)

137 The only direct family member I know of who served during WWI was my grandmother who was an army nurse at Ft. Oglethorpe. Many soldiers battled the influenza outbreak.

Posted by: Guam tipper at May 25, 2018 07:32 PM (/DvFd)

138 There are thanks to be given as well to the logisticians. Getting the
right stuff to the right places in sufficient amount and when needed is
an art the US practically invented.

It ain't sexy, but you are absolutely correct.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:32 PM (LAe3v)

139 99
Even the Red Army was still driven by animals even though the US supplied many a truck and trains.



I did not know the extent of Germany's reliance on horses in World War II until I read VDH's new book.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (08G9c)

Eastern Europe - Soviet Union had poor, poor, poor, roads. Everything was by rail and then outwards and a lot was by horse and mule because in spring - early fall they could graze their own fuel.
IIRC the movie the longest day begins with a German soldier riding a mule into town with the milk pails.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 07:32 PM (0QYMt)

140 117 Please note the numbers above have not been adjusted for Iraq, Afganistan, and various police actions in a couple years. I'll see to that this weekend.
Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 25, 2018 07:24 PM (C1NyB)

Does that number include small wars like The Barbary Wars, the Boxer Rebellion, the 1871 Korean invasion, etc?

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2018 07:33 PM (ANIFC)

141 Did he get to Britain? If not, he had a very short war.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:28 PM (vV/gB)


Yes, he made it Britain. He was a prisoner on a Russian train (probably bound for the Katydyn Forest) and was able to jump off and escape. Fought from 1939 to 1945.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:33 PM (5Yee7)

142 Yes, he made it Britain. He was a prisoner on a Russian train (probably bound for the Katydyn Forest) and was able to jump off and escape. Fought from 1939 to 1945.
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Damn. Your Uncle was a very lucky and intrepid man. You should be proud.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:34 PM (vV/gB)

143 My daughter took a college course in WWII history as an elective. The prof started on the first day by telling all the assembled frat boys that while they thought of WWII as the "cool war", it was nothing of the sort. Best thing I've heard about a professor in a while.

Posted by: pep at May 25, 2018 07:35 PM (LAe3v)

144 My FIL was a D-Day veteran, landed in the morning on Omaha beach.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:35 PM (aC6Sd)

145 RI Red

I like to have a strategic stockpile of spouse pleasing items in my Emergency Marriage Repair Kit.

Alas, I need to bail myself out of a jam too often for the pile to get to a size I feel is safe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 07:35 PM (hyuyC)

146 My Dad proudly served in WWII though he didn't see any action, his brother was shot down and killed over Holland and is buried in the military cemetery there. The Dutch people do a magnificent job of maintaining the cemetery and honoring our Vets there on Memorial Day.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2018 07:36 PM (nWc4E)

147 Knew a kid who's dad died of a heart attack during Berlin Airlift. Made him not eligible for draft during Viet Nam war.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 25, 2018 07:36 PM (zDOlG)

148 That was Goldfinger, on that horse.

Posted by: The Germans at May 25, 2018 07:36 PM (PLoJn)

149 It would be an honor to buy Doc Pantoja a beer.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 07:08 PM (zLDYs)


Hopefully, Doc Pantoja will never buy another beer for the rest of his life!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 07:37 PM (n9EOP)

150 The Dutch people do a magnificent job of maintaining the cemetery and honoring our Vets there on Memorial Day.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2018 07:36 PM (nWc4E)

I have heard that they do. Good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 07:37 PM (SjImc)

151 Flawless Male Logic @ 121- heh.One of Gen. Stonewall Jackson's 'foot' calvary said something similar when captured by the yankees. While passing their rear marshalling area while on his way to prison, he remarked 'Why you'uns have almost as many of these U.S. cannons as General Jackson does.' General Jackson called the various and sundry yankee commanders he faced 'the best quartermasters the Confederates have.'

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 07:37 PM (zLDYs)

152 A Variable Time Fuze can be set to explode over a target rather than
explode on contact. This allows the shrapnel to rain down on troops in
foxholes/trenches/trucks/halftracks and deliver higher casualties than
impact rounds. The Germans, Italians and Japanese did not have them. It
was a US invention.
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cough, cough
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8kwubs2

Posted by: zombie henry shrapnel at May 25, 2018 07:37 PM (Evws/)

153 My father had a document signed by FDR which kept him out of WW2 draft due to his radio/transcription/broadcast engineer work.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 25, 2018 07:38 PM (zDOlG)

154 137 The only direct family member I know of who served during WWI was my grandmother who was an army nurse at Ft. Oglethorpe. Many soldiers battled the influenza outbreak.
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I interviewed an American nurse from WWI as a history project in college. She was stationed in Le Harve, France. Her most vivid tales were about the Spanish Flu. It killed more people than the war itself. The odd thing is targeted healthy young people who worked outside. It is the number one example behind the idea of spermotogenesis.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:39 PM (vV/gB)

155 My grand pappy was in the Navy. My uncle was in the Navy. My other uncle was in the Army. My auntie was in the Air Force.
God bless 'em

Posted by: thathalfrican - OG LoG - Broke Minds Think Alike at May 25, 2018 07:39 PM (IYHxL)

156 Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (vV/gB)

The SO's dad was on Iwo, survived, I don't remember the unit. We have his Iwo invasion map, and a notebook he wrote in pencil in the trenches. He earned the name 'K-Bar Patrick' because he knifed a sniper with his K-Bar. He said it was hard to walk on Iwo without stepping on a body, and he remembered the brightness of the artillery overhead as the Navy was shelling. He lost a lot of friends, survived, went to Korea and earned a Bronze Star w/ V there, had two Purple Hearts. We bought him a new Marine dress blue uniform to bury him in, along with all his medals gleaned from his DD-214. Only had a short time knowing him, but he was an exceptional man.
Bless our military, all who serve.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (Gim9y)

157 A Variable Time Fuze can be set to explode over a target rather than

explode on contact. This allows the shrapnel to rain down on troops in

foxholes/trenches/trucks/halftracks and deliver higher casualties than

impact rounds. The Germans, Italians and Japanese did not have them. It

was a US invention.
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cough, cough
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8kwubs2


Posted by: zombie henry shrapnel at May 25, 2018 07:37 PM (Evws/)

They had that in the Civil War. The technology was not always precise but they had it. Pretty much all exploding ordinance was air burst.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (n13/j)

158 Signed up for the Draft on 18th birthday ( lady at Post Office said to me "but all the other kids aren't signing up!"), didn't burn my draft card, but never jined up in the services.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (zDOlG)

159 132 When men were men, and trannies kept it to themselves.
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2018 07:29 PM (HxiHD)
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Like Ed Wood!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (qJtVm)

160 to everyone who ever had to actually cover the check they made out to the American people "payable up to and including my life".

/Hand Salute

may we ever be worthy of that devotion.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (kb/by)

161 Damn. Your Uncle was a very lucky and intrepid man. You should be proud.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:34 PM (vV/gB)


I am but I only some vague childhood memories of him.
Like I said, I'm pretty sure he and Aunt Casimira were making the beast with two backs without bothering to get married.

Polish troops fought as organized Polish units in EVERY front in the European Theater of Operations. The 1939 Polish Army gets a bad rap, but they actually fought hard and did better than the French Army that had more men and better equipment.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (5Yee7)

162 Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Outlet

Playing Panzerblitz without the cream units like GD or W, will show how horses and wagons are very important. They were the mobile reserve for many an infantry division.

It was deliberate German policy to extend scare petrochemicals.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (hyuyC)

163 WW2 VT technology was actually a miniature radar unit in the nose, which is different from mechanical time fuses...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2018 07:41 PM (kb/by)

164 To all who served and gave that last full measure of devotion, we thank you.




Crossing the Bar


Sunset and evening star,
And one clear call for me!
And may there be no moaning of the bar,
When I put out to sea,

But such a tide as moving seems asleep,
Too full for sound and foam,
When that which drew from out the boundless deep
Turns again home.

Twilight and evening bell,
And after that the dark!
And may there be no sadness of farewell,
When I embark;

For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place
The flood may bear me far,
I hope to see my Pilot face to face
When I have crost the bar.

Tennyson

Posted by: WonkishRogue Tarrasque Enthusiast at May 25, 2018 07:42 PM (O9JR8)

165 159
132 When men were men, and trannies kept it to themselves.

Posted by: wth at May 25, 2018 07:29 PM (HxiHD)

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Like Ed Wood!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 07:40 PM (qJtVm)

** Isn't that where the shuttle used to land in Commiefornia?
At Ed Wood's Air Force base? **

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at May 25, 2018 07:42 PM (zDOlG)

166 Are the Antifa scum planning to disrupt anything on Memorial Day weekend

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2018 07:42 PM (eAMlh)

167 I saw things at Bastogne that haunt me to this day.

Posted by: Brian Williams at May 25, 2018 07:42 PM (5R5/9)

168 The only direct family member I know of who served during WWI was my
grandmother who was an army nurse at Ft. Oglethorpe. Many soldiers
battled the influenza outbreak.


My grandfather's older brother died in an army camp in France from the Spanish Flu. A lot of guys did.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 25, 2018 07:42 PM (O5Q3r)

169 All,
Every year at 1800 on Memorial Day Pacific Coast time, that is 6 PM for you Marines, I hold a toast to those who gave the last full measure.
I invite you to join me.
My network of friends and fellow vets is worldwide and includes multiple Allied nations. Join us as you can.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2018 07:43 PM (C8I+y)

170 The vastness of the playing field and the lack of much transport infrastructure (roads, especially all-weather roads) in the USSR was one of the things that swallowed up the Germans, and probably meant they never had much chance of success. Plowing through an account of April-August '42 right now. An inept Red Army still getting pushed around near Voronezh, start of the big German push that ended at Stalingrad - but rain would stop the Wehrmacht cold.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:43 PM (QDnY+)

171 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 25, 2018 07:20 PM (10vO4)

I have heard that they not minted a single Purple Heart since they prepared for the invasion of the Japan. They're still issuing medals from that stock.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 07:43 PM (n9EOP)

172 163. Yoyre thinking proximity fuses, used on antiaircraft (AAA) shells. Some worked optically, others by a sorta RF system.
Airburst shells for ground used VT fuses, mechanical ones at that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 25, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)

173 6 My father's father was a machine gunner in The 3rd Infantry Division "Rock of the Marne." In 1918.

He was affected by his service.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 06:52 PM (hyuyC)

My father's father was at Belleau Wood, among other places, and was highly decorated for going into no man's land and pulling wounded fellows back to the trenches. This after chasing Pancho Villa with Gen. Pershing in Mexico.

You would never know it. He never said boo about it.

He was an artist, a farmer, and tinkered at building things, like the gopher house, which is so called because that's the only thing that ever actually lived there. He didn't finish paintings, he never finished buildings, and he drank. So, I suspect he was also quite changed by the experience.

I found his military service records, at least those for stateside service, and he got dinged for drinking on duty more than once. I suspect he was bored. His mother was a notorious teetotaler and did not approve.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2018 07:45 PM (NXsWM)

174 89 Eustace, add one more for Somalia. MSG "Super Jew" Friedman, Delta sniper extraordinaire, was the first American KIA, but he was listed as a Department of Agriculture contractor, IIRC.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 25, 2018 07:46 PM (Ms9Gm)

175 169
All,

Every year at 1800 on Memorial Day Pacific Coast time, that is 6 PM
for you Marines, I hold a toast to those who gave the last full measure.


I invite you to join me.

My network of friends and fellow vets is worldwide and includes multiple Allied nations. Join us as you can.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2018 07:43 PM (C8I+y)

Damn don't tease me, just tell me what Mickey's arms look like, I will hoist a cold one.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at May 25, 2018 07:46 PM (DxWUs)

176 PDT shaking naval grads' hands...
https://twitter.com/RealJack/status/1000131021327790080

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2018 07:47 PM (Evws/)

177 Buckeye Cop, I think the Polish role in WWII is one of the least known bits of it. From the Polish squadrons of the RAF (among the key ones during the Battle of Britain) to the ground units that fought alongside the Americans and Brits and Canadians et al.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:47 PM (QDnY+)

178 177. Heh. SMR siegt an allen fronten.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 25, 2018 07:48 PM (fA1SL)

179 Roaring Mouse.
Go digital. When you see a 6 followed by two zeros, hoist your glass.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2018 07:49 PM (C8I+y)

180 177 Buckeye Cop, I think the Polish role in WWII is one of the least known bits of it. From the Polish squadrons of the RAF (among the key ones during the Battle of Britain) to the ground units that fought alongside the Americans and Brits and Canadians et al.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:47 PM (QDnY+)

I think there was a new book published this year about the free Polish Army, I'll have to look into that

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2018 07:49 PM (ANIFC)

181 Gene Hackman did a Hell of a job leading the Polish Brigade during Market-Garden.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2018 07:50 PM (5R5/9)

182 https://terminallance.com/2013/05/28/terminal-lance-unexpected-guest-ii-memorial-day/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 07:51 PM (qJtVm)

183 I have heard that they not minted a single Purple Heart since they prepared for the invasion of the Japan. They're still issuing medals from that stock.

I issued myself three of them in Vietnam.

Posted by: John Kerry at May 25, 2018 07:51 PM (nWc4E)

184
Go digital. When you see a 6 followed by two zeros, hoist your glass.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2018 07:49 PM (C8I+y)


Or two zeros followed by a 9, in case it's on upside down.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 07:51 PM (P+tjv)

185 My dad was an Army Air Corp weatherman. Flew into mainland China over the Hump and was sitting there waiting for the Invasion of Japan. Spoke highly of Truman.
Their daily concerns were different. Chiang Kai Shek and Mao were duking it out close by.

Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2018 07:51 PM (zkOmb)

186 I'm watching Ken Burns' Vietnam. It is, of course, a liberal take on the war but nobody comes off looking good. JFK blundered his way into the war with no clear plan, never wanted to escalate but always escalated, vacillated on what to do at least in part because he didn't want to, or couldn't, explain his actions to the voters. LBJ inherited a war he didn't know what to do with, feared he was incompetent in foreign policy and proved it true, wanted to ignore the war and get on with the Great Society. Ho Chi Minh didn't want to escalate the war but the more extreme commies supported by the ChiComs forced him into a mere figurehead position. South Vietnamese President Diem was corrupt and incompetent so JFK allowed a coup which resulted in the removal of a stable, corrupt government for a series of unstable, corrupt governments.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 07:52 PM (+y/Ru)

187 Hrothgar, at least up til 5 or years ago, that was correct - we were still using Purple Hearts struck for Operations Olympic and Coronet (Japan), but obviously/thankfully never issued for those. Researched it before using that factoid on a college class. I found a way to extract a lot from that bit of trivia, about WWII, the changing nature of warfare, and the very different experience of the Cold War, that even a few of the students seemed to grasp.


Not sure about now, but back then it was still 100,000+ medals in stock, so I'm pretty sure it's still correct - 70 years later we are still using the Purple Hearts made in anticipation of just two (massive) operations.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:52 PM (QDnY+)

188 156 Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:12 PM (vV/gB)

The SO's dad was on Iwo, survived, I don't remember the unit. We have his Iwo invasion map, and a notebook he wrote in pencil in the trenches. He earned the name 'K-Bar Patrick' because he knifed a sniper with his K-Bar. He said it was hard to walk on Iwo without stepping on a body, and he remembered the brightness of the artillery overhead as the Navy was shelling. He lost a lot of friends, survived, went to Korea and earned a Bronze Star w/ V there, had two Purple Hearts. We bought him a new Marine dress blue uniform to bury him in, along with all his medals gleaned from his DD-214. Only had a short time knowing him, but he was an exceptional man.
Bless our military, all who serve.
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I've been to Iwo as a Marine. It is a moonscape with zero places to hide. When I told my dad we were doing an op on Iwo on my first float he wrote me a letter to tell me what it was like. My dad came ashore on D+3 as the floating reserve. He commanded A Co, 21st Marines. These were rifle companies in excess of 200 Marines. After two days on the line his company returned to the beach to receive replacements. The replacements were raw Marines straight from boot camp with no combat training. The company replaced roughly 50% of their strength that day. The replacements were given M1s packed in cosmoline and had to clean them before returning to the line. This pattern repeated many times over 30 days. When my dad was getting near the end I could tell he was trying to remember all those nameless faces that had cycled through his company. He wanted to get copies of his daily reports to review. On D+33, the last day of the battle, my dad got shot through the lung when a young Marine froze at the sight of Jap in the open. My dad was evacuated to an airfield and then to a hospital ship. He was placed on top of some filing cabinets and forgotten due the numbers of wounded being processed. A day later a nurse noticed he was an officer and they got him to surgery. He thought he was going to die since one of his good friends died by drowning in his blood due to a lung wound. It is really hard to understand how many went down on Iwo, and doubly hard to understand that that many could have been on such a tiny island at one time. It was a slaughter house.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:52 PM (vV/gB)

189 I'm reading E.B. Sledge's "With the Old Breed," his Marine memoir of Okinawa and Peleliu. I would not have lasted 5 minutes in those experiences. I would have melted down on the bus trip to boot camp. Far far better men than me.

Posted by: gp at May 25, 2018 07:53 PM (mk9aG)

190 Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:47 PM (QDnY+)

The Free Poles were everywhere in the European theater, from France, North Africa, Italy, and back to North Western Europe. All of the guts, and neither the Nazis or the Commies could stomp that out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 07:53 PM (0QYMt)

191 Buckeye Cop, I think the Polish role in WWII is one of the least known bits of it. From the Polish squadrons of the RAF (among the key ones during the Battle of Britain) to the ground units that fought alongside the Americans and Brits and Canadians et al.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:47 PM (QDnY+)


The contributions of the Poles to the Allied war effort is often ignored. I think part of that was that immediately after WWII ended, the British and American governments wanted to keep Stalin happy and he was busy installing a Communist puppet government in Poland, so they pushed those guys to the side. Interesting enough, Poland kept a government-in-exile until the Communist government fell.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:53 PM (5Yee7)

192 F-i-L was in the Pacific in WW II. He was part of the invasion force assembled to take Japan (he and his arty unit was in the Philippines prior to that). If Truman hadn't dropped the bombs my lovely bride (SFC, USA Ret) likely wouldn't be here beside me.

On the other side, my step-mother's father was in Europe. Landed in Normandy with his armor unit just after D-Day. Went through the hedgerows and into Germany. He showed me his pictures he took over there the summer one of my younger brothers and I painted his house for him. Anyone that says the Holocaust didn't happen can fcvk right off and keep fcvking off until they die. Those pictures were horrific.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at May 25, 2018 07:54 PM (l7Kbv)

193
Pop was an ordnanceman in the Navy carrier groups during Vietnam. Did at least 4 tours off of VN, including one on Oriskany during the big fire in '66. I never could get much out of him on the subject, I had to figure that out by looking at his cruise books long after the fact.

Pop and I were never close, but I'm proud to call him my Father.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2018 07:54 PM (eXA4G)

194 Corporal Joseph Anzack, May 12 2007, Al Taqa, Iraq

Rest In Peace Brother. Never forgotten. Ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2018 07:54 PM (SeyTv)

195
"Dropping the bombs was a war crime! The Japanese were pleading to surrender!" - Leftist idiots

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (P+tjv)

196 I think there was a new book published this year about the free Polish Army, I'll have to look into that
Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2018 07:49 PM (ANIFC)


Give a report on the Book Thread, sounds like something I would be interested in.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (5Yee7)

197 Today I'm thinking about #OutlawPlatoon's
medic, Doc Jose Pantoja. He took a bullet to the face stayed in
the fight. Cared for 15 wounded, saved 3 lives w/o treating
himself.
3 weeks later he became a US citizen

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That's badass, and I also can't help but suspect that I'm being manipulated.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (VgKNm)

198 Hrothgar, I heard the same about the Purple Hearts preared for the home island invasion. Thank GOD we did not have to invade Japan. Old Pappy Eromero would not have made that invasion as he was still in the hospital at the time from wounds inflicted at St. Lo. Though he did make it through D-Day without a wound, something only 2 others in his landing craft could claim.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (zLDYs)

199 Anonosaurus, doubt I have to ask whether Burns' treatment included the full actual history of the ending - the North being one defeat away from being cut off by Moscow and Beijing, and that defeat likely would have been the '75 offensive (like the '73 offensive), if not for US disengagement - things we know from Giap's accounts and Soviet archives.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)

200 I learned a little bit about the Pacific Theater during my tour of Corregidor in February.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2018 07:56 PM (eAMlh)

201 197. Not really. Buddy of mine from uni, his father was in a similar spot. He volunteered for the US military during the VN war as a way of expediting his application for citizenship. His service in the Indian Army paid off bigly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 25, 2018 07:57 PM (fA1SL)

202 I didn't read due to nausea, but I read a tweet saying Publix has given in to Camera Hogg.
Time to let them know the woke will make them broke from backlash.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2018 07:57 PM (Evws/)

203 As an Army veteran,I just need to say that on this weekend honor the best of the best of this country. I have military relatives still alive from WW2 through the present, and they wish that people knew what this holiday is about. If they do, then party on dude, the honored would probably want that for everyone anyway.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2018 07:58 PM (6Ll1u)

204 My husband's grandfather was at Iwo Jima, among other places. I find it remarkable that, had circumstances been slightly different, neither one of us would have been born, at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2018 07:58 PM (NXsWM)

205 Interesting thing about Poland. Outside Warsaw, which was so destroyed land records were no use, the Communists never collectivized private property. Presumably they feared their citizens.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 25, 2018 07:58 PM (Ms9Gm)

206 Watched a little of Ken 'The Leftist' Burns Vietnam but the battering of every good American seems to die and every Leftist loser gets to come home got tiring.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 07:58 PM (aC6Sd)

207 Hadrian,
If it is a 9 followed by the zeros he has already fallen from the bar stool. Not unusual for Marines. Someone just needs to prop him up.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2018 07:59 PM (C8I+y)

208 I met a Filipino man, now living in Texas, who had one brother in Bataan and another who spent the entire war fighting as a guerilla on Corregidor. Both survived.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2018 07:59 PM (eAMlh)

209 That's badass, and I also can't help but suspect that I'm being manipulated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (VgKNm)


Nah. I can't think of a more affirmative expression of someone's commitment to citizenship. It's a fairly common way of expediting an application.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:00 PM (y87Qq)

210 My grandpa worked for Boeing during WWII (Army Air Corps Reservist), built B-29s, including the Enola Gay. he joined the Navy when Korea blew up, and his ship was torpedoed, which is where he lost 90% of his hearing and had equilibrium issues for the rest of his life. But he went back to Boeing, then worked for NASA on the Apollo missions.

I learned most of this just before he passed away. With me he mostly talked about happy family stories and mundane stuff. I think he simply thought he was just doing his job.

He loved Loony Tunes cartoons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at May 25, 2018 08:01 PM (Mkuv2)

211 197 Today I'm thinking about #OutlawPlatoon's
medic, Doc Jose Pantoja. He took a bullet to the face stayed in
the fight. Cared for 15 wounded, saved 3 lives w/o treating
himself.
3 weeks later he became a US citizen

---

That's badass, and I also can't help but suspect that I'm being manipulated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (VgKNm)

Consider that we are not entirely anti-immigrant. These are the sort that we like to have stay, as opposed to those who want the benes but don't bother to integrate.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2018 08:01 PM (NXsWM)

212 It's a fairly common way of expediting an application.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:00 PM (y87Qq)


Enlisting, that is, not getting shot in the face.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:01 PM (y87Qq)

213 198 Hrothgar, I heard the same about the Purple Hearts preared for the home island invasion. Thank GOD we did not have to invade Japan.
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Interestingly, we are still issuing those purple hearts. They did indeed produce a ton of them for Japan.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:02 PM (vV/gB)

214 Nah. I can't think of a more affirmative expression of someone's commitment to citizenship. It's a fairly common way of expediting an application.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:00 PM (y87Qq)

I can't think of a better recommendation for a future fellow citizen!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:02 PM (n9EOP)

215 I'm a little late to the party, but I have a comment about federal judge Naomi Buchwald's ruling a couple of days ago that twitter is a public space, and therefore Trump is prohibited from blocking anyone.

Trump should direct FCC chair Ajit Pai to impose net neutrality rules on twitter immediately.

And while he's at it, he should impose those same rules on facebook and google for the same reason.

Posted by: sparks at May 25, 2018 08:02 PM (aWD5H)

216 My grandparents served overseas in the Canadian Army in WWI. My paternal grandfather fought as a sergeant at the Somme, Vimy Ridge and Passchendale.

My father was a sergeant air gunner (mid upper) in WWII in RCAF bomber command in England. I retired as an officer in the Canadian Forces without hearing a shot fired in anger (so it goes).

I have always respected the US Forces with whom I met during my service. They were true professionals. I salute them - both veterans and serving. Bravo zulu!

John the Mad CD Major (Ret'd)

Posted by: John the MAd at May 25, 2018 08:03 PM (//fnt)

217 The Marcus T family is planted in Europe, etched on the Wall and buried in a few places. We've got down the whole fighting and dying thing. Just hoping for less of the latter in the future.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2018 08:03 PM (SeyTv)

218 Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:52 PM (vV/gB)

United States Army
Assault Forces
471st Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 5th Marine Division)
473rd Amphibian Truck Company (attached to VAC), Captain Robert P. Schwabl
476th Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 4th Marine Division), Captain Nevergiveup's Dad

My Dad went in with the 4Th Marine Recon Unit on the first wave. His Unit was charged with bringing in all the Artillery. It was an Old Black Unit. I meet a few of them.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:03 PM (SjImc)

219 Puddin Head, I have several Iwo-related stories from talking with vets but don't want to clog up the thread too much.


Just one. Last summer at a place I volunteer an old guy of the correct vintage comes in, wearing a big red "5th Marine Division" hat. So I ask. Yep - he was a Lt. at Iwo. He (like the late father of a friend of mine) emerged from Iwo without a scratch - pretty amazing, considering the casualty rate, and that for officers (and my friend's father - a corpsman! - was even more of a miracle). He described the enormous losses, how he barely knew anyone in his unit by the time it was over. And never seeing action again - the 5th was sent to Parker Ranch/Camp Tarawa on the Big Island to rebuild itself.


He drove himself. Said he lived alone. Moved fine, sharp as a tack. He was hoping to make what he said was going to be the 5th's last re-union, at Parker Ranch in HI, last October.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)

220 My grandfather served as a Raidioman on a destroyer in the pacific in WWII, My Dad and three uncles served as marines in Vietnam, I served in the Navy during the first Gulf war (Data systems technician) as did two of my brothers (Data processor and a Fire control tech). For all of that time served nobody was ever injured due to enemy action. We were all fortunate. Some of us made our way into theater and some did not.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:04 PM (0OmEj)

221 That's badass, and I also can't help but suspect that I'm being manipulated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 07:55 PM (VgKNm)

Means he is here legally. I don't have a problem with legal immigration, and he EARNED his place at our table.

It is when they conflate legal and illegal that pisses me off.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at May 25, 2018 08:05 PM (l7Kbv)

222 Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:02 PM (vV/gB)

I thought I had heard they struck a million medals for the Japan operations, but that doesn't square with rhomboid's number of 100,000 remaining. Thank God we still have a lot left, the alternative is almost unthinkable!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:05 PM (n9EOP)

223 Consider that we are not entirely anti-immigrant.
These are the sort that we like to have stay, as opposed to those who
want the benes but don't bother to integrate.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2018 08:01 PM (NXsWM)


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I don't disagree, and have no problem with him becoming a citizen.

Mentioning it in this atmosphere is suspect, though.

Maybe I should just blame (D)s for shaping the battlefield and making thoughtful, compassionate people immediately suspicious of any mention of this sort of thing, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 08:05 PM (VgKNm)

224 I may have told this story before, but the Old Man was a career Navy officer and he was in a CB unit attached to the Third Marine Amphibious Force in Vietnam. Well, apparently the Marines had a Thompson SMG and the Old Man had a truck-load of corrugated steel. A trade was made and the Old Man carried a Tommy Gun in Vietnam in 1969 and we've got the photographs of him in the Huey to prove it. He made it back but did get pretty badly wounded in a rocket attack.

The Old Man almost never talks about his experiences there other than to say he never commanded a group of young men that worked so hard without complaint. He did mention once that he was firing his Tommy Gun from the Huey at a VC machine gun.

I forgot to mention that one of Mrs. Cop's uncles was a career Army officer and was in the Rangers in Vietnam. She has told me that she asked him once when she was a child if he had ever killed anybody. He said, "Yes" and said he didn't want to talk about it.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 08:06 PM (5Yee7)

225 FBI obtained wiretaps of Putin ally who met with Trump Jr.

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia's Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby's annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.




Deep State is going all in on this and the MFM is going to cover for them the whole way

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)

226 While I have a few family members who served, I don't know of any who were killed in combat. I raise my glass in gratitude for those who did.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:07 PM (sdi6R)

227
Consider that we are not entirely anti-immigrant. These are the sort that we like to have stay, as opposed to those who want the benes but don't bother to integrate.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 25, 2018 08:01 PM (NXsWM)


We aren't anti-immigrant at all. We object to immigrants coming here in violation of our quite liberal laws.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:07 PM (2y7jb)

228 My dad was in Germany at the end of WWII and he told the story of when his platoon leader, Lt. Armour (of the hot dog family) got his orders for 30 days leave and to report for duty in the Pacific. He said the LT just sat there and cried, that he had won one war and now they were sending him to die in another. My dad said he felt bad for him, but he was sure glad he was a PFC and not important enough to be shipped out as a replacement. When I hear stories thanking God for the atomic bomb, I hope LT Armour made it OK.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 25, 2018 08:07 PM (Ms9Gm)

229 "Storming Paradise" is a great look at a "what-if?" scenario of invading Japan. It's a graphic novel by Chuck Dixon

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2018 08:08 PM (ANIFC)

230 Re: Poles in WWII. See the movie "Katyn." You have to see it once, but you'll never watch it again, it is so very horrifying. Probably not one in 100 Americans know the story.

Posted by: gp at May 25, 2018 08:08 PM (mk9aG)

231 220 My grandfather served as a Raidioman on a destroyer in the pacific in WWII, My Dad and three uncles served as marines in Vietnam, I served in the Navy during the first Gulf war (Data systems technician) as did two of my brothers (Data processor and a Fire control tech). For all of that time served nobody was ever injured due to enemy action. We were all fortunate. Some of us made our way into theater and some did not.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:04 PM (0OmEj)

My Dad's father served in Europe in WWII as a tank driver- volunteer for the duration. He was shot through the arm while raising the hatch one day and was evacuated. He was lucky as the tank was knocked out the next day.

My grandfather on my Mom's side served in the Pacific- career military (joined in '37 to get in the cavalry. Still had his boots when he passed away in his army chest.) Switched over to artillery when the war broke out. Served in WWII and Korea. Retired a Major.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 08:10 PM (vpyVq)

232

Winners Bitch competition is going on now. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:10 PM (4PQQH)

233 Hrothgar I think the number was 500,000, not 1M, which sort of makes the 100K remaining this decade sound more logical.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:11 PM (QDnY+)

234 ot

troll stomping opportunity here: http://www.thedrive.com

fourth story from top.

get your frustration out before the weekend starts in earnest.

sort by newest tab in upper left corner.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 25, 2018 08:11 PM (MTjB1)

235 Probably not one in 100 Americans know the story.
Posted by: gp at May 25, 2018 08:08 PM (mk9aG)


I was about to express doubt about that estimate, but people who DO know about it probably have a heavy self-selection bias so... yeah, that might even be an optimistic number.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:11 PM (y87Qq)

236 225 FBI obtained wiretaps of Putin ally who met with Trump Jr.

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia's Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby's annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.




Deep State is going all in on this and the MFM is going to cover for them the whole way
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)


So the NRA is colluding with the Russians now? Does that mean we're supposed to consider them traitors, and that banning guns is the patriotic thing to do?

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

237 Deep State is going all in on this and the MFM is going to cover for them the whole way
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)


I believe it was Senator Comrade Schumer that said the Deep IC has at least six ways to get even with you if you cross them!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:12 PM (n9EOP)

238 My grandmother brother is buried in France, from WEI, my father and his four brothers were in WWII, scattered all over Europe. My father was the last to die, he passed away in August of last year. I know we will never see men like that again.

Posted by: Abby at May 25, 2018 08:13 PM (7vXN4)

239 My Dad went in with the 4Th Marine Recon Unit on the first wave. His Unit was charged with bringing in all the Artillery. It was an Old Black Unit. I meet a few of them.
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It must have been hairy. Looking down on invasion beach from the base of Suribachi it was only 3,500 meters wide. The guns in Suribachi were surveyed in on every inch of that beach. To make things worse is the incline of the beach is very steep making landing in the surf a difficult operation. Many boats and tracks were breached trying to get ashore. BTW, there is absolutely no place to hide and find cover. All vegetation had been blown away by the Air Force and Naval artillery. It took big assed balls to keep you head about you while being sniped by artillery.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:14 PM (vV/gB)

240 230 sounds worth seeing.

How many Americans know the story of the American Revolution? How many could name three battles from that war or could name how long the war lasted within a year or two? And I mean without their "smart" phones. btw, now I get why they are called smart phones.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:14 PM (n13/j)

241 "So the NRA is colluding with the Russians now? Does that mean we're supposed to consider them traitors, and that banning guns is the patriotic thing to do?
Posted by: rickl "


Yeah, expect to hear exactly that on the Sunday shows.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 25, 2018 08:15 PM (xJrIn)

242 So the NRA is colluding with the Russians now? Does that mean we're supposed to consider them traitors, and that banning guns is the patriotic thing to do?
Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R)


It is mind-boggling. I think the Lefties think that this will split the NRA from the Republican base, but we old Cold Warriors remember that those Lefty turds were nowhere to be found when Reagan was staring down the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 08:16 PM (5Yee7)

243 Winners Bitch competition is going on now. Fingers crossed.
--------

O_o

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2018 08:16 PM (qJtVm)

244 t must have been hairy. Looking down on invasion beach from the base of Suribachi it was only 3,500 meters wide. The guns in Suribachi were surveyed in on every inch of that beach. To make things worse is the incline of the beach is very steep making landing in the surf a difficult operation. Many boats and tracks were breached trying to get ashore. BTW, there is absolutely no place to hide and find cover. All vegetation had been blown away by the Air Force and Naval artillery. It took big assed balls to keep you head about you while being sniped by artillery.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:14 PM (vV/gB)

The First Wave came in relatively untouched. It was quite. The Japs let them land and bring in equipment and clog the beach and then all hell broke loose. They refined that even further on Okinawa

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:16 PM (SjImc)

245 Winners Bitch competition is going on now. Fingers crossed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:10 PM (4PQQH)


lol.

It's funny because you said 'fingers'.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:17 PM (y87Qq)

246 question: why do some of the Naval Academy graduates wear a dark coat and the rest a white uniform?

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 25, 2018 08:17 PM (Z1I24)

247 I have all my Father's original Battle Plans and photos.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (SjImc)

248 So the NRA is colluding with the Russians now? Does that mean we're supposed to consider them traitors, and that banning guns is the patriotic thing to do?
Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

It is mind-boggling. I think the Lefties think that this will split the NRA from the Republican base, but we old Cold Warriors remember that those Lefty turds were nowhere to be found when Reagan was staring down the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop


I don't give a rat's ass if Russia stole the entire election single handedly and gave it to Trump on a silver platter.

HILLARY ISN'T THE PRESIDENT.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (3oX+R)

249 : why do some of the Naval Academy graduates wear a dark coat and the rest a white uniform?
Posted by: KWDreaming at May 25, 2018 08:17 PM (Z1I24)

Marine Corp Officers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (SjImc)

250 Powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/on-muellers-appointment.php
Professor Calabresi from Northwestern university law school is saying the appointment of Mueller is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 08:19 PM (aC6Sd)

251 The secret is out. The "Russians" found out how cheaply they could buy influential Americans.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 25, 2018 08:19 PM (RuIsu)

252 Remembering two of my grandmother's brothers. Both of them jumped init Fwance and survived the war. diabetis killed them both. not even the real fvcking nazis could do that.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 25, 2018 08:19 PM (8ZeGS)

253 why do some of the Naval Academy graduates wear a dark coat and the rest a white uniform?
Posted by: KWDreaming at May 25, 2018 08:17 PM (Z1I24)

Marine Corp Officers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (SjImc)

Thank you!

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 25, 2018 08:20 PM (Z1I24)

254 Cowpens, Kings Mountain, Yorktown for the win.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:20 PM (vV/gB)

255 rhomboid, that makes more sense, I may conflated the the number with the 1 million loss number.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:21 PM (n9EOP)

256 " we old Cold Warriors remember that those Lefty turds were nowhere to be found when Reagan was staring down the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 08:16 PM (5Yee7)"


Oh, you could find 'em, but you had to look on the side that was against America and supporting the Soviets wholeheartedly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 25, 2018 08:21 PM (xJrIn)

257 I have all my Father's original Battle Plans and photos.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (SjImc)


What sort of billet?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:21 PM (y87Qq)

258 251 The secret is out. The "Russians" found out how cheaply they could buy influential Americans.
Posted by: Burger Chef at May 25, 2018 08:19 PM (RuIsu)

Soros has known for years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 08:21 PM (vpyVq)

259 By the way, the show "The First World War" (I think on Amazon), is brilliant. I've watched it twice, and is fascinating.
The aforementioned SO's dad (Johnny) served under Chesty Puller; Puller knew him by sight, saw him at a base, saluted him. The new bride was impressed that Chesty knew him. When Johnny got to Korea as a Marine historian (one of the first), Chesty told him to make history now, write about it later. He did not talk about what he did to get the Bronze Star with V, joked it was, 'writing reports'.

My dad was 30 yrs older than my mom, was a young man in Ukraine during WWII and ended up being forced to work in a German labour camp, where he nearly died. I still have some of his papers along with his brother's, complete with swastika.

Here is my uncle's papers:https://___ur.com/a/NXHfHJc


Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at May 25, 2018 08:22 PM (Gim9y)

260 Sorry, that's ___ur (dot) com

Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (Gim9y)

261 242
I think the Lefties think that this will split the NRA from the Republican base, but we old Cold Warriors remember that those Lefty turds were nowhere to be found when Reagan was staring down the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 08:16 PM (5Yee7)


Sure, just like the pussy-grabbing video and Stormy Daniels were supposed to split the evangelicals from Trump.

Go on, lefties. Run that play again. I dare you.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

262 I have all my Father's original Battle Plans and photos.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (SjImc)

What sort of billet?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:21 PM (y87Qq)

Do you mean what did my father do on Iwo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (SjImc)

263 70 years later we are still using the Purple Hearts made in anticipation of just two (massive) operations.

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I quite liked the Brit series Foyle's War about a detective in southern England trying to keep the lid on crime during WWII. In one episode, set during the early days of WWII, a murder victim worked at a top secret weapons factory outside of town but, given that he was a carpenter, it was unclear what the weapon might be. Foyle who has to investigate any possible motive, finally gets clearance, and learns that what they are manufacturing are coffins for the Blitz that they know is coming. They spread the rumor about making weapons for fear if the civilians learned the truth, it would be bad for moral.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (+y/Ru)

264 The First Wave came in relatively untouched. It was quite. The Japs let them land and bring in equipment and clog the beach and then all hell broke loose. They refined that even further on Okinawa
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That tactic had been used at Guam. Their idea was to let the Marines pile up on the beach and then cut them off. My dad sad the worst landing he went through was Guam. His unit was in the third wave when all the guns opened up on them. Plywood doesn't provide much protection.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (vV/gB)

265 Writing Europeans out of their own history(happening here as well,of course)

https://youtu.be/fSBx0pqTSL0

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (LiyEm)

266 254 nice. I thought the easy out would be Lexington, Concord, and Bunker Hill. So I should have excluded them from my gripe. Nice with Cowpens and Kings Mountain.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (n13/j)

267 PFC Harry A. Goldenberg
Company K, 105th Infantry Regiment, 27th Infantry Division.

Killed in Action, July 1, 1944 on Saipan.

RIP

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:24 PM (VM6ev)

268 Ok, this is a good one by Ed Driscoll over at Insta:

DAMN NEAR KILLED HIM: Man 'hid SIX phones inside his bottom before deliberately getting arrested scaling the security fence surrounding Jerusalem so he could hand them to prison inmates.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 08:24 PM (vpyVq)

269 Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 08:19 PM (aC6Sd)

The Constitution is merely an old piece of paper to the Deep State, hardly even an impediment to doing what needs to be done.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:24 PM (n9EOP)

270 It looks like Cmdr Alfredo Sanchez has copped to dereliction of duty in regards to getting sailors killed and damaging USS McCain

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79643

He needs to be drummed out without one shred of any retirement at the least.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 08:24 PM (x1z41)

271 (101) Yeah, that thing freaked out the Luftwaffe real bad. The shells would only explode close enough to damage their planes. Game changer.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 25, 2018 08:24 PM (RuIsu)

272 PFC Harry A. Goldenberg
Company K, 1105th Infantry Regiment, 27th Infantry Division.

Killed in Action, July 1, 1944 on Saipan.

RIP

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:24 PM (VM6ev)

Who is buried at Rock Island Arsenal?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:25 PM (SjImc)

273 272
Who is buried at Rock Island Arsenal?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:25 PM (SjImc)

That's him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:25 PM (VM6ev)

274 Do you mean what did my father do on Iwo?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (SjImc)


Yes, basically. I guess if he was Army it wouldn't be a 'billet'. Just wondering what he did there.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:26 PM (y87Qq)

275 266 254 nice. I thought the easy out would be Lexington, Concord, and Bunker Hill. So I should have excluded them from my gripe. Nice with Cowpens and Kings Mountain.
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Quint, the Revolution was won in North Carolina and Virginia.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:26 PM (vV/gB)

276 NGU, that's very interesting and great about your father's service, and very cool about having his documents.


The day before the WWII Memorial in DC was officially opened by Dubya, down on the Mall nearby, I spoke to a retired black minister who had been a young guy on an ammunition ship at Iwo (his ship's first combat experience). Pretty gripping description of his experience.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:26 PM (QDnY+)

277 That's him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:25 PM (VM6ev)

Well if I ever get there again, I'll visit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:26 PM (SjImc)

278 277 That's him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:25 PM (VM6ev)

Well if I ever get there again, I'll visit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:26 PM (SjImc)

G-d bless, my friend. I am going to try and get there as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:27 PM (VM6ev)

279
Delilah was Reserve Winners Bitch for a 3-point major to finish her championship. She may now be styled Ch. Soyara's Devilish Delilah.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:27 PM (XZMm9)

280 258 251 The secret is out. The "Russians" found out how cheaply they could buy influential Americans.
Posted by: Burger Chef at May 25, 2018 08:19 PM (RuIsu)

Soros has known for years.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 08:21 PM (vpyVq)


Ah yes, Comrade Lenin had a few things to say about capitalists and rope if I recall correctly!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:27 PM (n9EOP)

281 Cowpens, Kings Mountain, Yorktown for the win.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:20 PM (vV/gB)

Breeds Hill, Saratoga, Fort Trumbull.

Lived in the Fort Trumbull area growing up. Benedict Arnold can ride Satan's barbed cock in hell for eternity.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (l7Kbv)

282

Here is my uncle's papers:

https://IMGur.com/a/NXHfHJc


Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (IqV8l)

283
I may attempt to watch "The War" but every time I do I just break down sobbing.

That and the last episode of "The World at War" entitled "Remember."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (VM6ev)

284 I missed the thread, but can someone help me out with the Publix thing?

Are they no longer calling the cops to respond to theft or other crimes because the cops carry guns?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (VgKNm)

285 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:27 PM (XZMm9)

Congratulations!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (n9EOP)

286 Anonosaurus, doubt I have to ask whether Burns' treatment included the full actual history of the ending -

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I haven't gotten that far.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (+y/Ru)

287 Yes, basically. I guess if he was Army it wouldn't be a 'billet'. Just wondering what he did there.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:26 PM (y87Qq)

As I post above he was the CO of an Army Unit attached to the 4th Marines. His unit brought in all the heavy artillery. Look at the 476th Amphib Unit

United States Army
Assault Forces
471st Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 5th Marine Division)
473rd Amphibian Truck Company (attached to VAC), Captain Robert P. Schwabl
476th Amphibian Truck Company (attached to 4th Marine Division), Captain Jules Nevergiveup
138th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Group, Colonel Clarence E. Rothbeb
Headquarters Battery, 138th AAA
506th AA Gun Battalion, Lieutenant Colonel D.M. White
483rd AAAW Battalion, Lieutenant Colonel A. Roth
38th Field Hospital, Reinforced, Major Samuel S. Kirkland
Detachment, 568th Signal Air Warning Battalion (attached to VAC)
Detachments, 726th Signal Warning Company (attached to VAC, 4th & 5th Marine Divisions)
Detachment, 49th Signal Construction Battalion
Detachment 44, 70th Army Airways Communications Systems
Detachment, Communications Unit 434
442nd Port Company (attached to 4th Marine Division)
592nd Port Company (attached to 5th Marine Division)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:29 PM (SjImc)

288 Lived in the Fort Trumbull area growing up. Benedict Arnold can ride Satan's barbed cock in hell for eternity.
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He died a very unhappy man. Too much hubris.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:29 PM (vV/gB)

289 JJ, was just about to mention your uncle. I recalled from past comments he was KIA on Saipan.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:29 PM (QDnY+)

290 Thank you to all who have served and made the ultimate sacrifice. And thanks Dad for your service. I know in the end you paid for it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 25, 2018 08:31 PM (dUJdY)

291 Honor, gratitude, affection, and respect to all service morons, and their military forebears. Heroes all, as are the families who stood and waited.

I served, as did my two brothers. War zones a-plenty, and lots of action, but no direct combat, unlike the greatest generation before us. My mother was Navy, and my father-in-law (British Army) saw combat service in France (D+4 Sword Beach), as did mother-in-law in British Service Support capacity. My father was a decorated AAA battery commander at Leyte Gulf, and would have been part of the early waves of Olympic or Coronet. He also served in Korea, and was overrun by Chinese, when he was a forward observer. And, as i have mentioned here a few times, my grandfather served along the Mexican Border, commanded combat engineers in WWI, and played a significant semi-renowned role at the Bulge and Remagen.

Salute.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 25, 2018 08:32 PM (IYSFO)

292
Cowpens, Kings Mountain, Yorktown for the win.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 08:20 PM (vV/gB)

Quebec, Valcour Island, Saratoga.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 08:33 PM (0QYMt)

293 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 08:28 PM (IqV8l)

Thanks!

Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at May 25, 2018 08:33 PM (Gim9y)

294 As I post above he was the CO of an Army Unit attached to the 4th Marines. His unit brought in all the heavy artillery. Look at the 476th Amphib Unit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:29 PM (SjImc)


Ah, I saw your #60 but must have missed the detail post. Thanks for the information.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)

295 May their memory be a blessing.

Freedom is not free.

Keeping their sacrifice in mind, the loss of freedom I feel daily in this country is that much more painful.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2018 08:34 PM (EZebt)

296 My father was an armorer and ground gunner in the 56th Fighter Group in England. The group flew P-47s on bomber escort missions over Germany. After VE Day, he volunteered to be a gunner on B-29s over Japan but Fat Man and Little Boy made that unnecessary.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (+y/Ru)

297 As I post above he was the CO of an Army Unit attached to the 4th Marines. His unit brought in all the heavy artillery. Look at the 476th Amphib Unit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:29 PM (SjImc)

Ah, I saw your #60 but must have missed the detail post. Thanks for the information.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)

He wore his 4th Marine Pin every day till the day he died

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (SjImc)

298 Brandywine, Monmouth Courthouse, Guilford Courthouse, Flamborough Head.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (0QYMt)

299 Here's to my dad, who survived operations in Saipan, Tinian, Roi Namur, and Iwo Jima, the last of which where he received a battlefield promotion, and who died a full colonel in the Marine Corps.

Not a day goes by that I don't miss him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (YqDXo)

300 Arnold was a talented General.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:36 PM (n13/j)

301
I know we give the English hell for what that country has turned into, but watch this and remember what that country sacrificed.

"The Last Post"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99tCg596QSc

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:36 PM (VM6ev)

302 Bunch of Sailors and Marines at the Yankee Game tonight with the Fleet in

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:36 PM (SjImc)

303 Not a day goes by that I don't miss him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (YqDXo)

*glass up and tipped in salute*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 08:36 PM (0QYMt)

304 265 Writing Europeans out of their own history(happening here as well,of course)

https://youtu.be/fSBx0pqTSL0
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2018 08:23 PM (LiyEm)


I watched the first five minutes of that. That is utterly obscene propaganda. As the narrator said, it is mainly aimed at young people who don't know any better.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:37 PM (sdi6R)

305 Anasaurous W.
Foyles War is in my opinion, the best tv program ever produced.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2018 08:37 PM (C8I+y)

306 Here's to my dad, who survived operations in Saipan, Tinian, Roi Namur, and Iwo Jima, the last of which where he received a battlefield promotion, and who died a full colonel in the Marine Corps.

Not a day goes by that I don't miss him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (YqDXo)

Amen.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:37 PM (SjImc)

307 Good evening everyone

May their lives not be forgotten nor given in vain. May we honor their service and do what we must to preserve the freedoms they fought for.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 25, 2018 08:38 PM (IDhUW)

308 306 Here's to my dad, who survived operations in Saipan, Tinian, Roi Namur, and Iwo Jima, the last of which where he received a battlefield promotion, and who died a full colonel in the Marine Corps.

Not a day goes by that I don't miss him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 08:35 PM (YqDXo)

Amen.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:37 PM (SjImc)


So odd that I never met my uncle and yet there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2018 08:38 PM (VM6ev)

309 atomicplaygirl, thanks, that's an amazing document. The "General Gouvernement" was the part of Poland not integrated either into the Reich or Russia after '39, and site of much of the most heinous Nazi crimes. And the district on that ID (Distrikt Galizien) was the newer expanded part of GG. The guy tried at Nuremberg for this, who was Governor General of this area, was I believe the only one who publicly expressed remorse for his crimes (before he was executed). Hans Frank.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:39 PM (QDnY+)

310 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2018 08:39 PM (KCxzN)

311 Thanks to Mikey and NGU. I appreciate it. And thanks to you and yours who also served.

My blood boils to hear worthless leftist turds deprecate their sacrifice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 08:39 PM (YqDXo)

312 279 ... Hadrian, Please congratulate your wife for us. That is a wonderful tribute.

Posted by: JTB at May 25, 2018 08:40 PM (V+03K)

313 well later all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2018 08:40 PM (SjImc)

314 106 The Marine Corps' colors have joined the National Ensign on the front of the house for the weekend. I think of SSgt Don May 1st Tank Bn, 1st Marine Division, 29 Palms, killed in Nasiriyah, Iraq in 2003. I think of Sgt Luke Pyeatt of 2d Radio Battalion, II MEF Camp Lejeune, NC KIA near the Kajaki Dam in Helmand Province Afghanistan, Feb 2011 (my battalion) and Sgt Daniel Gurr, 3rd Recon Bn, 3rd Marine Division, Okinawa, Japan killed ivo Sangin, Helmand Province, Afghanistan Aug 2011.

I am fortunate enough to toast their sacrifice, I hope they find me worthy to join them when I finally go ashore.

Also, my Dad, Commander USNR Retired, who graduated from USNA 55 years ago. I think he would have been pretty excited to see the President shake each and every graduate's hand today.


Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf
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All I can say is that there are two flags that fly everyday at Camp NALNAMSAM. The National Ensign and the Marine Corps colors and both will be at half staff on Monday as we honor all those that have given their lives on behalf of a grateful nation.

And I too have had the privilege to stand on the hallowed ground on Iwo Jima on three separate occasions (early in my career, later in mid-career, and near the end) and I can say that the older I got the more it meant to me. Just to look out over the terrain from the top of Mt. Surabachi is numbing at best and it surely had to be a tremendous gut check for all those that were there - if I were only as strong as those brave souls that never made it back home at all or on one piece.

So let me say that while I appreciate the sentiment, there is no Happy Memorial Day but rather an opportunity to honor all those who have gone before us on behalf of us.

So with that, I too will over a toast at 2100 (9pm EST) on Monday to pay my respects to all that are no longer with us.

Semper Fidelis

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at May 25, 2018 08:41 PM (TA0EN)

315 Hans Frank.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:39 PM (QDnY+)

===

A lawyer.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2018 08:42 PM (EZebt)

316 Adding an "amen" and a salute for JJ's uncle, Jay's dad, and NGU's dad.


I know this holiday is about the fallen, but mixing up the categories in a respectful forum like this I deem perfectly OK.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:42 PM (QDnY+)

317 Hadrian, congrats to you and Her Majesty!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 25, 2018 08:43 PM (hMwEB)

318 I don't think my grandfather ever saw combat, at least teh little my dad knows. Grandpa just told him that he ferried aircraft from Britain to France and then on a boat back to Britain for another flight. Sopwith Camels.
I have photos of him with a Sopwith Camel. That's one of my model build projects when I get better at it. There is a unit insignia on the side in one photo, a biplane wing over a teardrop/bomb shape that I'll have to figure out how to replicate. Getting the colors right will be a bit hard considering BW photos.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 08:43 PM (0QYMt)

319 There is a massive amount of shit happening at the moment.

Tommy Robinson was thrown in jail for 13 months with arrest and trial completed in *one* hour. He'll be killed if he's not sprung PDQ. The system is full of muslim gangs. Several protests are planned in London tomorrow.

All sorts of youtube channels hit over night.

Many new "terms of service" on all sorts of social media sites this week.

China fuckery. See latest CTH story on this. It notes that there is a big summit in Quebec about June 8th ...

Something's going on.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 08:43 PM (vWMNq)

320 317 Hadrian, congrats to you and Her Majesty!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 25, 2018 08:43 PM (hMwEB)

===

I think she was promoted to Field Marshal, no?

Congratulations

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 25, 2018 08:44 PM (EZebt)

321 Also ... word about Tommy Robinson is being deleted from social media. Youtube does not seem to be affected much but twitter is apparently deleting things quite quickly.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 08:44 PM (vWMNq)

322 8 Million hero horses killed in the war.


What a waste.

Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 08:45 PM (sXefu)

323 The closest Publix to me is 10 miles away, so I don't shop there.
I did go send them a message on Face Book telling them that I wasn't going to shop there any more, because they don't know that I'm not a customer.
Flooding the Zone, as it were.

And Good Evening, People of the Horde.

It's great to be among friends.

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 08:45 PM (cAj82)

324 NALNAMSAM, thanks for that.


I think the USMC still takes selected Marines to Iwo, for motivation and training.


Guy who gave us the battlefield tour on Okinawa a decade ago (he was also the one History Channel used in their "Underground Empires" episode on Okinawa) was very excited - the next day, he was finally going to get in the empty seat for the flight to Iwo, where he'd never been (and I think he had been waiting for the opportunity for years - he had been a Marine, was married to an Okinawan and lived there).


Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:46 PM (QDnY+)

325 Can barely stay awake, been up since 3am.
Everyone have a good night.

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2018 08:46 PM (aC6Sd)

326 And I too have had the privilege to stand on the hallowed ground on Iwo Jima on three separate occasions (early in my career, later in mid-career, and near the end) and I can say that the older I got the more it meant to me. Just to look out over the terrain from the top of Mt. Surabachi is numbing at best and it surely had to be a tremendous gut check for all those that were there - if I were only as strong as those brave souls that never made it back home at all or on one piece.

After my father died I was going through his things, and found his reports as first sergeant of B company, 2nd battalion, 24th Marines. (He was a bit of a pack rat.)

They'd sustained 85% casualties after landing on Beach Yellow 2. Six out of seven Marines were casualties.

I couldn't believe it.

I only hope that I did not, have not, and will not dishonor his memory.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 08:47 PM (YqDXo)

327 Is this the only thread we get until Tuesday?

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 08:47 PM (cAj82)

328 322 8 Million hero horses killed in the war.

What a waste.
Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 08:45 PM (sXefu)


Ditto.

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 08:49 PM (YqDXo)

329 Is this the only thread we get until Tuesday?
Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 08:47 PM (cAj82)


At the earliest. Claim a seat while you can. Ideally next to a window that opens.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:50 PM (y87Qq)

330 Why is the blog 10 minutes in the past?

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 08:50 PM (vWMNq)

331 My Grandfather was in WWI and my Uncle Jim was in WWII.
Both survived their experiences, fortunately, but I know that many others did not.
Thankful for the service and sacrifice of our Armed Forces.
Home of the Free because of the Brave is not a cliche.

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 08:50 PM (cAj82)

332 *raises a glass to the fallen*

May their memory be eternal.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM (0XdQr)

333 conservatives are always living in the past.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM (n13/j)

334 328 322 8 Million hero horses killed in the war.

What a waste.
Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 08:45 PM (sXefu)

Ditto.
Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 08:49 PM (YqDXo)

Likewise.

Posted by: IKEA Meatballs at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM (hyuyC)

335 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 25, 2018 07:46 PM (Ms9Gm)

I'm late to checking back. Noted, and thank you.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 25, 2018 08:52 PM (C1NyB)

336 per Drudge, Hillary says she wants to be CEO of Facebook.
(not gonna say it, too easy, not gonna say it, too easy...)
Yes I am... Hillary, honey, shouldn't it be FacePlant?

Posted by: davidt at May 25, 2018 08:52 PM (to271)

337 Qunt fuckyou and the horse you rode in on>

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (0OmEj)

338 I express my thanks to our country's veterans.

It's not worth much, but it is what it is.

Thanks, gentlemen.

Posted by: The Business at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (UiRxW)

339 327 Is this the only thread we get until Tuesday?
Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 08:47 PM (cAj82)


Yes. The internet is shutting down for maintenance.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (sdi6R)

340 So the NRA is colluding with the Russians now?
Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R)


At this rate, fucking Little League will be accused of colluding with the goddamned Russians.

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (YqDXo)

341 333 conservatives are always living in the past.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM (n13/j)

I disagree. Conservatives plan for the future. Have you ever heard of the fable of the grasshopper and the ant?

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 08:54 PM (cAj82)

342 cleanup isle 333!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:54 PM (0OmEj)

343 Ireland goes pro-abort by more than two to one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:54 PM (+y/Ru)

344 333 conservatives are always living in the past.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM (n13/j)


Correction: shouldn't that be "Qunt?"

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (YqDXo)

345 Hillary is delusional and a few stupid comments away from a one-way trip to the nursing home.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (6FqZa)

346 337
Qunt fuckyou and the horse you rode in on>

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (0OmEj)

are you for real? for joking about why the thread is ten minutes behind? wow.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (n13/j)

347 Yes. The internet is shutting down for maintenance.
Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (sdi6R)


<1MC>
ALL HANDS TURN TO
COMMENCE FIELD DAY
</1MC>

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

348 Hillary says she wants to be CEO of Facebook.

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Yeah, I want Facebook destroyed, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (+y/Ru)

349 Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM

Wrong thread to troll. Fuck off.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (zBW/D)

350 Here's to my dad, whom I never met, KIA in Korea.
Posted by: navybrat at May 25, 2018 06:53 PM

Very sorry to here that. My condolences.
T

Posted by: Farmer at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (yJ1e6)

351 We, the living, have to bear that torch of liberty handed to us by our ancestors.

May we hold that torch as high as those who served the country and gave all they could to win over evil.

I try my best not to fail those who strove before me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (hyuyC)

352 I don't think Quint is trolling but I have no idea what inspired him to post #333 in this thread.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (6FqZa)

353
Qunt fuckyou and the horse you rode in on>

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:53 PM (0OmEj)


*polite cough*

I think the Ace-O-Nomitor was being referred to.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (XZMm9)

354 Youtube does not seem to be affected much but twitter is apparently deleting things quite quickly.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 08:44 PM (vWMNq)


Speaking of Twatter from Newsbusters:

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey recently named former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick, the Ferguson protesters, and the Parkland students as his favorite accounts to follow on the site. He also advocated for the gun-control platform put forth by the Parkland students.



I really wish that Trump would dump his Twatter account. They're loss of users would hopefully sink that shithole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (SiINZ)

355 Yes. The internet is shutting down for maintenance.

-
BRACE FOR MEAT SPACE AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (+y/Ru)

356 Guy who gave us the battlefield tour on Okinawa a decade ago (he was also the one History Channel used in their "Underground Empires" episode on Okinawa) was very excited - the next day, he was finally going to get in the empty seat for the flight to Iwo, where he'd never been (and I think he had been waiting for the opportunity for years - he had been a Marine, was married to an Okinawan and lived there).

Posted by: rhomboid
-----
I've been very fortunate to be in the right place at the right time over the course of 30+ years in our illustrious Corps and have had the pleasure of spending considerable time on Oki (four tours). Some were by choice and others were voluntold (LOL). And I've met the gentlemen down at the Kinser USO that you are referring to and there are some great battle site tours on Okinawa that will move you from the tunnels, Hacksaw Ridge, to the suicide cliffs. I've done a tour or two in the desert (no direct combat) but what those folks went thru in WWII, Korea and VN are night and day in comparison.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (TA0EN)

357 Not a good comment on a memorial day thread!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (0OmEj)

358 Publix has great fried chicken and wings. They overcharge for everything else. Not surprised they would bow to lil hitler to protect their margins.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 08:57 PM (+fTAB)

359 I think the Ace-O-Nomitor was being referred to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM

If so, my sincere apologies.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 08:57 PM (xv1lh)

360 so #333 was just a joke that fell flat.
I've been there...

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:57 PM (6FqZa)

361 "LBJ inherited a war he didn't know what to do with, "

That SOB campaigned that he was not going to "send our boys to Viet Nam". He had ads showing Goldwater as a madman who would get us into a war with China? - Russia? and "get all our boys killed"

He new he was going into Nam before he was elected and he thought he was going to be in and out, quick and easy, down and dirty, war president hero.

LBJ was a lying no good SOB.

Posted by: gNewt at May 25, 2018 08:58 PM (qcIWB)

362

At least, that's how I read it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2018 08:58 PM (XZMm9)

363 Publix has great fried chicken and wings. They overcharge for everything else. Not surprised they would bow to lil hitler to protect their margins.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 08:57 PM (+fTAB)




The little gloryhole queen tried to get Laura Ingraham tossed off the air and she got better ratings. The turd called for a boycott of Vanguard and BlackRock and no one blinked an eye. Anyone giving into this shithead is just stupid.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:58 PM (SiINZ)

364 Why is the blog 10 minutes in the past?

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 08:50 PM (vWMNq)



Special relativity

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2018 08:59 PM (CPfoe)

365 so #333 was just a joke that fell flat.
I've been there...
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:57 PM (6FqZa)


Yeah, same. I assumed it was in re: the comment timestamps and only realized why people were getting pissed off about it a little later. Ten minutes later, in fact...

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:59 PM (y87Qq)

366 Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM



Wrong thread to troll. Fuck off.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM (zBW/D)

I don't troll. I am a conservative. I made a joke, it was taken wrong.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:59 PM (n13/j)

367 Dude, Tommy Robinson was put in prison because they MEANT it as a death sentence. Spit.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (zLDYs)

368 Sorry just a little raw here. No harm no foul. I took it wrong.(333)

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (0OmEj)

369 The blessings of liberty we enjoy have been paid in blood. God bless all those who have served in arms for the United States.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (kWrQ3)

370 341 333 conservatives are always living in the past.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:51 PM (n13/j)

6-------9

does this include the use of long running but ultimately bogus stats like

only 11 million illegals (since 2001)
gals earn 77 cents on the doller FOR THE SAME JOB, guys
99% of all scientists believe that global warming is like real
4 out of 5 girls in American colleges are rayped
all races commit the same number of crimes but only the blacks are arrested in a disproportionate manner?

Posted by: jake jortles at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (uFoR1)

371 324
NALNAMSAM, thanks for that.


I think the USMC still takes selected Marines to Iwo, for motivation and training.


Guy
who gave us the battlefield tour on Okinawa a decade ago (he was also
the one History Channel used in their "Underground Empires" episode on
Okinawa) was very excited - the next day, he was finally going to get in
the empty seat for the flight to Iwo, where he'd never been (and I
think he had been waiting for the opportunity for years - he had been a
Marine, was married to an Okinawan and lived there).




Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:46 PM (QDnY+)

I also did the battlefields tour on Okinawa and all I could think was Holy FARG, how could they fight here? Climbing into the Shuri Line was hard enough on a nice day, let alone with all the mud and blood. I never did get to Iwo Jima but have a jar of the black sand on my desk one of my buddies collected for me. Also toured Cabanatuan, Intramuros, Bataan and Corregidor Island in the Philippines, Pusan and Incheon in Korea. Truly amazing that the men and women were able to fight in such difficult Climes and Places. Iraq and Afghanistan were no picnic, but we did not face the same type and number of enemy forces.

I will hoist an ale to lost brothers and sisters at 2100 EST as well.

Semper Fidelis

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (DxWUs)

372 Publix has a good bakery, too. Such a pity.

They are now the Dick's of the grocery industry.

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (cAj82)

373 Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey recently named former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick, the Ferguson protesters, and the Parkland students as his favorite accounts to follow on the site. He also advocated for the gun-control platform put forth by the Parkland students.

This is my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiOGS-_81KU

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (YqDXo)

374 I don't troll. I am a conservative. I made a joke, it was taken wrong.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 08:59 PM (n13/j)


I'll allow it.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Referee at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (CPfoe)

375 I don't troll. I am a conservative. I made a joke, it was taken wrong.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018

See my earlier comment. I missed the joke. My apologies.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (xv1lh)

376 oh 333 is a joke. kewl

Posted by: jake jortles at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (uFoR1)

377 Dude, Tommy Robinson was put in prison because they MEANT it as a death sentence. Spit.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (zLDYs)



The Limey cops, courts and NHS all need helicopter rides

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (SiINZ)

378 363
The little gloryhole queen tried to get Laura Ingraham tossed off the air and she got better ratings. The turd called for a boycott of Vanguard and BlackRock and no one blinked an eye. Anyone giving into this shithead is just stupid.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:58 PM (SiINZ)


Yes, Publix chose poorly. On the other hand, they're apparently a worker-owned company, so they probably leaned left to begin with.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

379 I was going to say Cowpens, Guilford Courthouse, and Bunker Hill. I had a some-great grandfather at Guilford Courthouse. Toured the battlefield two years ago, and am just down the road from it now, after coming to NC for the birth of my 3rd grandchild.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at May 25, 2018 09:02 PM (Pzj+4)

380 I really wish that Trump would dump his Twatter account. They're loss of users would hopefully sink that shithole

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (SiINZ)

Unfortunately, twitter, facefart and google have a lock on things at the moment. Twitter seems to be essential for journalism and it is the place Trump has to fight back.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 09:02 PM (vWMNq)

381 Only retards shop at Publix for anything other than their in-house stuff

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:02 PM (+fTAB)

382 Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey recently named former NFL
quarterback Colin Kaepernick, the Ferguson protesters, and the Parkland
students as his favorite accounts to follow on the site. He also
advocated for the gun-control platform put forth by the Parkland
students.



This is my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiOGS-_81KU

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (YqDXo)


---

He advocates gun control platforms put forth by kids who can't give back correct change for a $3.00 happy meal without a computer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM (VgKNm)

383 See my earlier comment. I missed the joke. My apologies.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:01 PM (xv1lh)

No worries. I thought I quoted what I was responding too but didn't. I have been online too long today lol.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM (n13/j)

384 LBJ was a lying no good SOB.

-
I'd say that applies to JFK as well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)

385 it would be kewl if trump started using Gab

Posted by: jake jortles at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM (uFoR1)

386 343---Ireland goes pro-abort by more than two to one.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:54 PM (+y/Ru)
---------------------------
I expected Satan to win but I did hope it would be closer.
*sigh*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM (0jtPF)

387 All this talk about grocery stores is making my hungry.

I'm out of ice cream, too.

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 09:04 PM (cAj82)

388
He also advocated for the gun-control platform put forth by the Parkland students.

What, exactly is that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 09:04 PM (IqV8l)

389 Welcome home Doc. Youve been away from home a long time. Being repatriated from Tarawa after KIA in November 1943. Returning home after long last. No one left behind.

htttp://www.zettlerfuneralhome.com/obituary/thomas-murphy

Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2018 09:05 PM (9rIkM)

390 No worries. I thought I quoted what I was responding too but didn't. I have been online too long today lol.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:03

You and me both. Long day. *pours the next round into the usb port*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:05 PM (xv1lh)

391 I never even heard of Publix before today. The closest one to me is two states away.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

392 The pest control guy came by today with his new employee.
He introduced the new guy and said that he was 63 years old.
The pest control guy said he was through hiring young guys because they had no work ethic.
Old Farts Rule.

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (cAj82)

393 I'd say that applies to JFK as well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM (+y/Ru)


The Celtic forerunner to the Magic Negro, i.e., someone who intrinsically isn't worth a pinch of dry shit, but gets elected because a lot of retards are star-struck. And yeah, I'm looking at the 19th Amendment here.

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (YqDXo)

394 Ireland goes pro-abort by more than two to one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 08:54 PM (+y/Ru)



They've gone down the Euro shithole road. That's why the left loves them Europe because no matter how bad liberalism is for them the Euros still blindly follow it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (SiINZ)

395 WHY AM I NOT CEO OF FACEBOOK, YOU ASK???

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (nILVB)

396 Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2018 08:39 PM (QDnY+)

Wow, rhomboid, thanks for the context! I had no idea!
I don't know what Tato worked on in Germany (he died when I was 12). Mom said it was a place near Mannheim she thought, but I've done searches and it's hard to troll through and find info - there were a lot of camps, some large, some small, and 'near Mannheim' might still not be that close.

When he came back to America (he was born here), he worked on ramjet engines in NJ before it got moved to Cali, and he didn't want to leave his brothers.
So I have always wondered...

Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (Gim9y)

397 367
Dude, Tommy Robinson was put in prison because they MEANT it as a death sentence. Spit.


Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2018 09:00 PM (zLDYs)

He's survived a few short stays. There is a good interview with him that covers it but I've forgotten who did it.In one case, he realized he was being put into a room with a dozen muslims and immediately started a fight before the door was closed. Tommy's got balls and can take care of himself but 13 months is a *long* time.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 09:07 PM (vWMNq)

398 It is mind-boggling. I think the Lefties think that this will split the NRA from the Republican base, but we old Cold Warriors remember that those Lefty turds were nowhere to be found when Reagan was staring down the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop


I don't give a rat's ass if Russia stole the entire election single handedly and gave it to Trump on a silver platter.

HILLARY ISN'T THE PRESIDENT.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2018 08:18 PM (3oX+R)



***************************
Since she didn't win the election for POTUS, she now wants to be the CEO of Facebook.
That way she can ban Conservatives, Republicans or anyone that is not with her and run for President again


https://ntknetwork.com/hillary-clinton-wants-to-be-ceo-of-facebook/

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2018 09:07 PM (PvFoN)

399 He also advocated for the gun-control platform put forth by the Parkland students.

What, exactly is that?


I'm not sure whether you get better policy from retards, children, or Maxine Waters. It's a close call.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2018 09:07 PM (CPfoe)

400 The Celtic forerunner to the Magic Negro, i.e., someone who intrinsically isn't worth a pinch of dry shit, but gets elected because a lot of retards are star-struck. And yeah, I'm looking at the 19th Amendment here.

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (YqDXo)



He got elected because Old Man Daley was stuffed ballot boxes in Illinois as was LBJ in Texas.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 09:07 PM (SiINZ)

401 My twin brother fought in Viet Nam. When Ken Burns program re Hue was on, he asked me if I had watched. I couldn't. He said he had been in the thick of it--the first I knew. He commanded about 900 men--don't know what the name of such a force is--and received a Presidential commendation because altho he was in the heart of the fighting, he had no fatalities and only 3 minor injuries among his men. He was so proud. He had a scary dangerous war. Lots of medals in cases he never shows. Very hard to have two liberal kids.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 25, 2018 09:08 PM (Kr0FZ)

402 Fuck Publixxx. Always went to Kroger in the Vinings when living in the ATL.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 25, 2018 09:08 PM (89T5c)

403
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:03 PM

Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear
And it shows them pearly white

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 09:08 PM (IqV8l)

404 Hillary still wants to run something. Dear God.

At least the Captain of the Hindenburg never requested another assignment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2018 09:08 PM (CPfoe)

405 Ireland goes pro-abort by more than two to one.

They obviously learned nothing from the Potato Famine.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 25, 2018 09:08 PM (Tyii7)

406 If the Brits make a martyr out of Tommy Robinson it might not turn out the way they want.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

407 357
Not a good comment on a memorial day thread!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (0OmEj)

I know it is over but I want to be clear. Now I get why you went off. My comment had nothing to do with Memorial day, I would never make light of that, check basically every comment I have made on this forum and you will see that.
I was responding to a question about "why the forum clock was in the past" not a direct quote but it is upthread. We are talking about other things here too as it is the only thread. Hope that clears it up. And no hard feelings.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:09 PM (n13/j)

408 Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2018 09:05 PM

My next door neighbors' uncle (great uncle?) Is an old Marine colonel. WWII vet. Drives around town in a car with a sign in the rear window that says "Tarawa...we kicked their ass!" LOL

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:09 PM (xv1lh)

409 My namesake, Great Uncle Clinger, died in WW2 in the Pacific.

Never knew him, but I'm grateful for his sacrifice and the sacrifice of so many just like him through all eras.

Well, except for the Union soldiers. Damn Northern Agressors.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 25, 2018 09:09 PM (WglMe)

410 The little gloryhole queen tried to get Laura Ingraham tossed off the air and she got better ratings. The turd called for a boycott of Vanguard and BlackRock and no one blinked an eye. Anyone giving into this shithead is just stupid.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May




well, we need to find some way to quickly marshall the Trump voters to make nonsense like publix capitulating to hogg painful enough that they become non-political.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 25, 2018 09:09 PM (MTjB1)

411 Before Whole Foods, Publix was the virtue/status signaling grocery store

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:10 PM (PUmDY)

412 The Celtic forerunner to the Magic Negro, i.e., someone who intrinsically isn't worth a pinch of dry shit, but gets elected because a lot of retards are star-struck. And yeah, I'm looking at the 19th Amendment here.
Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 09:06 PM (YqDXo)

Ironically, but for the 19th, Obama would have not been eligible to even run. Before the 19th children derived citizenship from their father's.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2018 09:10 PM (2rRKu)

413 My Grandfather - Shot down over Bataan, years in the camps and finally liberated from Yokohama in 1945.

My Brother - Iraq and Afghanistan U.S. Army - Suffers severe PTSD

Me - Marines Iraq 1991... no issues.

Thanks boys, we got it from here.

Posted by: hobbes at May 25, 2018 09:11 PM (sfR2q)

414 I'm out of ice cream, too.
Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 09:04 PM (cAj82)


What about ass? Have you got any ass? Because if you're here to kick ass and eat ice cream, and you're out of both ass and ice cream, well I just don't know what to say.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM (y87Qq)

415 The last US WWI vet died in 2011. There's about half a million WWII vets still alive. We lose about 300 a day.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 25, 2018 07:15 PM (O5Q3r)



That's very sad to read. My one grandfather came here from Ireland (he's turning in his grave over the abortion vote today) joined the Army and fought in WWI. I had an uncle in the Navy in WWII and Korea and another uncle in the Marines in the Pacific during WWII.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM (SiINZ)

416 390 No worries. I thought I quoted what I was responding too but didn't. I have been online too long today lol.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:03



You and me both. Long day. *pours the next round into the usb port*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:05 PM (xv1lh)

cheers! I hope you poured wine because that is what I got.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM (n13/j)

417 No I jumped before I thought, We are good here. Sorry.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM (0OmEj)

418 Rape suspect found not guilty after showing penis in court

Rape suspect found not guilty after showing penis in court

No hung jury here.

The Connecticut sex-assault suspect who pulled his penis out in court to prove it didn't match his accuser's description was found not guilty Friday.

Accused rapist shows penis to jury to prove innocence
Accused rapist shows penis to jury to prove innocence
Jurors in New Haven cleared Desmond James, 26, of three counts of sexual assault - two days after he showed in the flesh that he doesn't fit the accuser's story of being raped by a black man whose junk is lighter than the rest of his skin.

"If it's not the light one, it's not the right one," his lawyer, Todd Bussert, quipped to The Post after the verdict.

The victim had picked James out of a photo lineup after reporting that she was raped while walking home one night in 2012 by a "dark-skinned black male with big lips and black-people hair," Busser said.

"There were a number of troubling aspects in terms of the allegation. It evoked negative racial stereotypes," he said. "We felt in general that it didn't describe our client."

But the biggest mismatch was the description of the attacker's private parts.

So the only evidence that Busser offered to support James' innocence was to have his client stand in the middle of the court room with his pants down and his penis out.

The exhibit was especially eyebrow-raising because the judge didn't warn the jurors about what they were about to see - and some stunned onlookers averted their eyes as James walked in and silently dropped trou, witnesses say.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2018 09:14 PM (+y/Ru)

419 He's survived a few short stays. There is a good interview with him that covers it but I've forgotten who did it.In one case, he realized he was being put into a room with a dozen muslims and immediately started a fight before the door was closed. Tommy's got balls and can take care of himself but 13 months is a *long* time.

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 09:07 PM (vWMNq)



I repeat, the Limey cops, courts and NHS all need helicopter rides

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2018 09:15 PM (SiINZ)

420 The German army was still pretty much horse drawn in WWII
----------------------
Only about 10% of the German army was fully motorized. The rest used horses and carts for their daily log needs.

The US Army was the world's first fully mechanized Army.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2018 07:02 PM

I love that scene from Band of Brothers. "Hey, you! That's right, you stupid Kraut bastards! That's right! Say hello to Ford, and General f*ckin' Motors! You stupid fascist pigs! Look at you! You have horses! What were you thinking? Dragging our asses half way around the world, interrupting our lives..."

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 25, 2018 09:15 PM (2NqXo)

421

* crackle sssssssssst pop *
NOW HEAR THIS, NOW HEAR THIS!
ALL HANDS TURN TO
COMMENCE FIELD DAY
* ssssssssst *
THAT IS ALL
* pop crackle ssssssst pop *


FIFY.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 08:55 PM

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2018 09:15 PM (DMUuz)

422 I'm gonna need more lube.

Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 09:16 PM (sXefu)

423 @401 He commanded about 900 men--don't know what the name of such a force is
-----------------

A battalion is roughly 1000 men.

Posted by: junior at May 25, 2018 09:16 PM (Fstb+)

424 Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM (y87Qq)



I have a nice ass, at least my husband thinks so.

Posted by: ALH at May 25, 2018 09:16 PM (cAj82)

425 The contributions of the Poles to the Allied war effort is often ignored. I think part of that was that immediately after WWII ended, the British and American governments wanted to keep Stalin happy and he was busy installing a Communist puppet government in Poland, so they pushed those guys to the side. Interesting enough, Poland kept a government-in-exile until the Communist government fell.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:53 PM (5Yee7)


I suspect the Poles' contribution to the Allied war effort was ignored out of expediency, and shame. They'd been sold out twice, first to the Nazis, and then to the Soviets.

Posted by: Alpo at May 25, 2018 09:18 PM (YqDXo)

426 A battalion is roughly 1000 men.

Posted by: junior at May 25, 2018 09:16 PM (Fstb+)

I'd hit it.

Posted by: Sandra F. - now with more of me to love at May 25, 2018 09:19 PM (sXefu)

427 If the johnson doesn't fit, you must acquit!

Posted by: Zombie Johnny Cochran at May 25, 2018 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

428 Our government, right up to the last days of the Zero Administration. used a horse's ass in the executive branch. The last of its kind I hope.

Posted by: torabora at May 25, 2018 09:20 PM (Xr58H)

429 Sweepers, Sweepers, Man your brooms!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 09:22 PM (0OmEj)

430 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at May 25, 2018 09:22 PM (YqDXo)

431 Aspirin Factory, Murder Kroger on Ponce has been closed for a year or so now. PITA.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:23 PM (PUmDY)

432
* crackle sssssssssst pop *
NOW HEAR THIS, NOW HEAR THIS!


Four years in the Navy. Two ships.
Never once heard "Now hear this"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 09:23 PM (IqV8l)

433 Link for PhM2c Murphy appears to be bad.

Try
http://www.zettlerfuneralhome.com/obituary/thomas-murphy

Posted by: Fox2! at May 25, 2018 09:23 PM (brIR5)

434 WW2 vets are literally a dying breed. I had a chance to talk to one a few years ago. He was was very up front about saying that he never saw combat and was never in any danger. He was stationed in India and was in logistics in the Pacific or something. But still I was in awe talking to someone who lived through such momentous times.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 25, 2018 09:24 PM (kWrQ3)

435 cheers! I hope you poured wine because that is what I got.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM

Ummm....hope the whisky didn't clash too badly, guy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:24 PM (xv1lh)

436 Truth be told the Boatswains whistle dose not translate to print very well.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 09:25 PM (0OmEj)

437 @425 I suspect the Poles' contribution to the Allied war effort was ignored out of expediency, and shame. They'd been sold out twice, first to the Nazis, and then to the Soviets.
-------------------

The Poles had quite a few men fighting in Italy. Supposedly when news about the agreement between the US, UK, and USSR governments to put Poland into the Soviet sphere of influence post-war, the Free Poles in Italy nearly pulled out of the line and refused to fight.

Posted by: junior at May 25, 2018 09:25 PM (Fstb+)

438 Four years in the Navy. Two ships.
Never once heard "Now hear this"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 09:23 PM (IqV8l)


Same. I figured it was just Because Submarines; our IC manual is different from everybody else's.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 09:25 PM (y87Qq)

439 Regarding the Poles-

Not to forget that the first generation of Israeli fighters were largely trained by the Poles.

Posted by: Memorial Weekend Miklos at May 25, 2018 09:25 PM (zCyNd)

440 But still I was in awe talking to someone who lived through such momentous times.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 25, 2018 09:24 PM (kWrQ3)


I was under sniper fire in Bosnia. I think about it often, oh yeah, really often. Really, really, really often.

Posted by: Hills at May 25, 2018 09:27 PM (sXefu)

441 191
The contributions of the Poles to the Allied war effort is often ignored. I think part of that was that immediately after WWII ended, the British and American governments wanted to keep Stalin happy and he was busy installing a Communist puppet government in Poland, so they pushed those guys to the side. Interesting enough, Poland kept a government-in-exile until the Communist government fell.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 25, 2018 07:53 PM (5Yee7)



After the end of WWII, the British and Americans forced a large number of refugees back into the Soviet zone against their will. At gunpoint.

Diana West discussed that in her book "American Betrayal", but my boss told me the same story at least a decade earlier. Apparently it was common knowledge at one point, before being erased from popular history.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

442 Free Poles in Italy nearly pulled out of the line and refused to fight.

Posted by: junior at May 25, 2018 09:25 PM (Fstb+)

Much like the Czech Legion during/after WWI

Posted by: Memorial Weekend Miklos at May 25, 2018 09:28 PM (zCyNd)

443 Four years in the Navy. Two ships.
Never once heard "Now hear this"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2018 09:23 PM


The only two ships in the Navy where the Chiefs bring you coffee service before you roll out of your rack, and you sailed on both.

What are the odds?

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2018 09:28 PM (DMUuz)

444 435 cheers! I hope you poured wine because that is what I got.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:12 PM



Ummm....hope the whisky didn't clash too badly, guy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:24 PM (xv1lh)

Well it never has before.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:29 PM (n13/j)

445 352
I don't think Quint is trolling but I have no idea what inspired him to post #333 in this thread.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (6FqZa)

It is peculiar that on Memorial Day weekend people would speak of the past; I have no idea what would get into them to do that.
/eye roll

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 09:29 PM (0QYMt)

446 Well it never has before.
Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:29

Cheers!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2018 09:30 PM (xv1lh)

447 At least the Captain of the Hindenburg never requested another assignment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2018 09:08 PM (CPfoe)

Actually, Kapitan Pruss remained fully employed.

Posted by: Memorial Weekend Miklos at May 25, 2018 09:30 PM (zCyNd)

448 I suspect the Poles' contribution to the Allied war effort was ignored
out of expediency, and shame. They'd been sold out twice, first to the
Nazis, and then to the Soviets.


Ha! I pulled an Obama on that one before there was even an Obama!

Posted by: Zombie FDR at May 25, 2018 09:30 PM (Tyii7)

449 425- The Poles dont have much love for Germany, but they despise Russia. It doesn't help that the Russian Embassy is a compound three or four city blocks in size, and dominates the area near most of the major government buildings like parliament and the prime minister's residence.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2018 09:31 PM (V+V48)

450 436 Truth be told the Boatswains whistle dose not translate to print very well.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 25, 2018 09:25 PM


WheeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
WheeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!
WheeeEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeea

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2018 09:32 PM (DMUuz)

451 Grandpa jumped ship from the Navy in 1917 in San Francisco. Changed his name, went to NYC. He was kind of a shady guy all through his life. He was in the service to begin with, because he got in trouble with the law in his hometown of Omaha. The judge gave him the choice of joining the military or going to prison.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 25, 2018 09:33 PM (2NqXo)

452 441 Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

When my dad and his brother escaped the German labour camp, they made it to the American lines (crazy!). At some point he got shot in the leg, but they made it, but my dad spoke no English - Ukrainian, Russian, a fair amount of Polish and German but no English.

He told my mom decades later he was terrified they were going to be sent back to Ukraine, despite being American citizens. They found my other uncle, William, in the US Army (Artillery on D-Day), and eventually my dad was shipped to the US, but he knew that the Americans were sending people back. He loved America but had a REALLY hard time with the deals we made with the Russians. He loved Reagan though - said he was the only leader who clearly knew the true evil of communism.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at May 25, 2018 09:33 PM (Gim9y)

453 Thanks, Junior.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 25, 2018 09:33 PM (Kr0FZ)

454 There seem to be people living in the middle of the rift eruption on Kilauea who haven't left yet. Weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6URRDQ9EqY

Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 09:34 PM (vWMNq)

455 David Hogg just declared meme war.

It's like Christmas, without the disappointment.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 25, 2018 09:34 PM (rnAwa)

456 Also, thanks to those served, the families who supported them, and those who serve and support today.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2018 09:35 PM (V+V48)

457 Actually, Kapitan Pruss remained fully employed.

Posted by: Memorial Weekend Miklos at May 25, 2018 09:30 PM (zCyNd)


Ja, I was the Reichstag Fire Marshall.

Posted by: Kapitan Pruss at May 25, 2018 09:35 PM (sXefu)

458 a compound three or four city blocks in size, and dominates the area near most of the major government buildings like parliament and the prime minister's residence.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2018 09:31 PM (V+V4

Ha!

See "Palace of the People"

Posted by: sincerely, Nicolae at May 25, 2018 09:36 PM (zCyNd)

459 Battle of Trenton, Dec 25, 1776.
Official code phrase: "Victory or death."

Aka: America - We Will Kill You In Your Sleep on Christmas

Posted by: pogomip at May 25, 2018 09:36 PM (87V/q)

460 Well, except for the Union soldiers. Damn Northern Agressors.

I had two great-great-grandfathers who fought in a German-speaking Pennsylvania regiment in the Army of the Potomac at Gettysburg. They had left Germany in the 1850s for freedom and the chance to better their lives here. One of them worked as a blacksmith and helped to take care of the army horses, among his other duties.

I'm not going to put down your ancestors. I'd like just a little respect for mine. My dad was a paratrooper, 82nd Airborne, WWII. North Africa, Sicily, Normandy, the works. I never heard him make snide remarks about the Southern guys in his outfit or the general for whom Fort Bragg was named.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 25, 2018 09:36 PM (3C9q2)

461 Obama certainly followed in a long tradition of leftist leaders selling out Poland.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 25, 2018 09:38 PM (kWrQ3)

462 David Hogg is the Chauchat of Meme Wars.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 09:38 PM (x1z41)

463 I thought this thread was about horses

Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 09:39 PM (sXefu)

464 Horses - yeah, kind of funny we have that tribute to the horse on the same night that TuCa had a long piece on Why we should eat Horse Meat.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2018 09:40 PM (V2Yro)

465 445 352

I don't think Quint is trolling but I have no idea what inspired him to post #333 in this thread.



Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (6FqZa)

It is peculiar that on Memorial Day weekend people would speak of the past; I have no idea what would get into them to do that.
/eye roll


Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 09:29 PM (0QYMt)

I am not sure how to take that since I feel blindsided a bit here even though it was a misunderstanding that was cleared up.
my post was 333, I was responding to a post 3 posts before mine.
330 Why is the blog 10 minutes in the past?
Posted by: Off the reservation at May 25, 2018 08:50 PM (vWMNq)

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:41 PM (n13/j)

466 462 David Hogg is the Chauchat of Meme Wars.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 09:38 PM (x1z41)

Kind of weird and shaped all funny?

I wonder if Goebbels ever fired a Chauchat?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 09:41 PM (vpyVq)

467 Well that but always jamming and misfiring because of all the mud getting stuck in it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (x1z41)

468 More Revolutionary Battles, perhaps less known:

Huck's Defeat
Musgrove's Mill
Waxhaws
Camden
Fishing Creek
Blackstock
Charlotte
Blue Licks (fought in Kentucky after Yorktown, and a bloody defeat for the Americans)

One might also include Nickajack and Fallen Timbers (both in 1794) as the war along the frontier never really ceased between 1775 and 1794.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (bZ7mE)

469 David Hogg is the Chauchat of Meme Wars.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 09:38 PM (x1z41)


Anna Puma is the M32 of milhist threads.

https://stoatnet.org/m32.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (y87Qq)

470 Does anyone else think memes are incredibly lame? Very post millennial.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (PUmDY)

471 I never heard him make snide remarks about the Southern guys in his outfit or the general for whom Fort Bragg was named."

Interesting point, because the Federal Officers didn't have much of a problem with Bragg, but you know who hated him and spent the next 40 years badmouthing him? Every other officer in the Confederate Army. Oh, Bragg was despised by his staff! And a lot of hilarious war stories came out of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2018 09:43 PM (V2Yro)

472 132 When men were men, and trannies kept it to themselves.
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2018 07:29 PM (HxiHD)
*************

.

Posted by: PFC Klinger. Fake Soldier. Fake Tranny at May 25, 2018 09:44 PM (Xr58H)

473 459 Battle of Trenton, Dec 25, 1776.

Official code phrase: "Victory or death."



Aka: America - We Will Kill You In Your Sleep on Christmas

Posted by: pogomip at May 25, 2018 09:36 PM (87V/q)

John Batchelor does a great reading of the story on Christmas eve. Incredible heroism is the most trying of times. Washington had to do something right then before his army melted away.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:44 PM (n13/j)

474 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 25, 2018 08:56 PM (6FqZa)


Dang, the Quint hate is a little much.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 25, 2018 09:44 PM (sXefu)

475 I thought this thread was about horses
Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 09:39 PM (sXefu)



Horses and legislators. And sometimes, they're the same thing!

Posted by: Incitatus at May 25, 2018 09:44 PM (CPfoe)

476 I'm not going to put down your ancestors. I'd like
just a little respect for mine. My dad was a paratrooper, 82nd Airborne,
WWII. North Africa, Sicily, Normandy, the works. I never heard him make
snide remarks about the Southern guys in his outfit or the general for
whom Fort Bragg was named.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 25, 2018 09:36 PM (3C9q2)

Hear, hear.One of my great-great-grandfathers was a surgeon in the Iowa Volunteer Infantry. I'd also like to see a little less of that stuff.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 25, 2018 09:44 PM (0QYMt)

477 463 I thought this thread was about horses
Posted by: Catherine the Great at May 25, 2018 09:39 PM (sXefu)
------------------
Yeah, me too.

Posted by: Matthew Broderick at May 25, 2018 09:45 PM (0jtPF)

478 M32? Makes me wish I had gotten a chance while in the service to fire a Mk 19 automatic grenade launcher.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 09:45 PM (x1z41)

479 Does anyone else think memes are incredibly lame? Very post millennial.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (PUmDY)


*raises hand*

I do.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 25, 2018 09:45 PM (CPfoe)

480 Ravenous and the z rated scenes you create.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:45 PM (PUmDY)

481 470 Does anyone else think memes are incredibly lame? Very post millennial.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (PUmDY)

I don't know what you mean:

https://tinyurl.com/ycqvb3jt

https://tinyurl.com/y968eu7p

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 25, 2018 09:46 PM (vpyVq)

482 ONT IS NOOOOOD

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at May 25, 2018 09:47 PM (y3aQB)

483 MARKETWIRE

New line of David Hogg inspired "Hello Hoggy" licensed products announced

Based on palette of pink and baby blue

Target market is nine year old girls, and other CNN viewers

Posted by: Miklosian Transaltions, SA de CV at May 25, 2018 09:47 PM (zCyNd)

484 One of the outcomes of the Civil War--which my however-many-greats grandfather Zemri fought in--was that a lot of New England boys who had grown up farming rocks looked across the Mississippi at the largest wheat field God ever made and vowed to go back if they lived. A lot of sodbusters, like Zemri, were Civil War vets.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 25, 2018 09:47 PM (Kr0FZ)

485 M32? Makes me wish I had gotten a chance while in the service to fire a Mk 19 automatic grenade launcher.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 25, 2018 09:45 PM (x1z41)


If you got to fire anything bigger than a Mk 43 then go to the back of the line and wait your turn

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2018 09:48 PM (y87Qq)

486 BTW, rhomboid, if you know anything else about the GG, resources to find out about the camp where my dad was, etc, please let me know. I am also on GAB, I can be PMed there to talk offline.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl at May 25, 2018 09:49 PM (nsZWp)

487 Does anyone else think memes are incredibly lame? Very post millennial.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 25, 2018 09:42 PM (PUmDY)


What's with memes? Aren't they lame?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 25, 2018 09:49 PM (sXefu)

488 Grandfather left the coal mines of West Virginia to serve on the Landing command ship USS Ancon at Operation Torch, Operation Husky (Sicily), Operation Avalanche (Salerno), Normandy and on to the Pacific for Okinawa. Experienced uboats, German bombers, radio glide bombs and kamikazes. Saw the surrender next to the Missouri in Tokyo bay.

I spent 7 years in the Army Reserves as a Armored Cav instructor during the Reagan years. Not a veteran because I was a reservist but I was proud of my service. We were in a quality unit led my a maverick LTC who used to be a LRRP in Vietnam with plenty of decorated Vietnam Vets.

At a sleepy Fort McCoy one evening on training he was known to have borrowed an e-6 uniform and drank in the rocker club with his Nam vet NCOs.

It sad. Out of a high school graduating class of 600 in Northbrook Il probably only a dozen or less served in the military in any form. Not surprisingly the same community is now, 30 years or so later looking to implement its own community AWB.

Posted by: Keith at May 25, 2018 09:50 PM (USf3s)

489 you know who hated him and spent the next 40 years badmouthing him? Every other officer in the Confederate Army. Oh, Bragg was despised by his staff! And a lot of hilarious war stories came out of that.

Yes, I read on some other smart military blog that Bragg was not exactly well liked by his men or fellow officers. On that note, sometimes I wonder why the Army decided to name another of its forts after John Bell Hood. Fort Meade is slightly more understandable. Meade had a hot temper but a sound instinct for the real enemy-- he hated the press almost as much as Sherman did.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 25, 2018 09:52 PM (3C9q2)

490 471 I never heard him make snide remarks about the Southern guys in his outfit or the general for whom Fort Bragg was named."



Interesting point, because the Federal Officers didn't have much of a
problem with Bragg, but you know who hated him and spent the next 40
years badmouthing him? Every other officer in the Confederate Army.
Oh, Bragg was despised by his staff! And a lot of hilarious war stories
came out of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2018 09:43 PM (V2Yro)

They went after him during the war too. His subordinate Generals formed a cabal and went to Davis, but Davis liked Bragg and did not replace him until he was basically forced to. Bragg did have people skill issues though.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 09:53 PM (n13/j)

491 Let's talk about what makes the United States of America the greatest place anyone has ever been blessed to live in.

We have liberties unlike any other people have ever had. Free speech. The right to keep and bear arms.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 25, 2018 09:54 PM (kWrQ3)

492 A big a heartfelt "thank you" to those who serve and those who gave everything for me.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2018 09:55 PM (hYcqw)

493 One of the organizational problems that the Confederates had is that the various regiments were loyal to their states, and to their own commanders, but the overall army commanders had no direct way to discipline a sub-commander who didn't see eye to eye, so to speak, with him. This was never a problem with General Lee, because his mystique and gravitas were so great that no one ever dared to disobey him, no matter what the legalities were. But it played hell with General Bragg's command.

P.T. Beauregard of Louisiana particularly despised Bragg. Going into one battle, Bragg, from his general HQ, had instructed Beauregard, who had field command of most of the troops, to launch an all out assault on Federal lines at 7 am during one battle. (may have been Chickamauga, but maybe Stones River) Anyway, 7 came and went, and then 8, and Bragg watching though binoculars from his HQ was greatly alarmed to see nothing happening at all. Bragg sent a rider, a junior officer, to Beauregard to ask him what had gone wrong. The rider found Beauregard and his staff in the middle of a 7 course breakfast on the plantation silver that he had brought with him, along with all his cooks and servants waiting the tables. The rider approached and said "General Beauregard, General Bragg is greatly concerned, and wished to know why the attack which he has ordered has not yet been commenced!"

General Beauregard stood and addressed the junior officer, and he said in his thickest and most patrician Louisiana accent, "You mean to say that the attack has not yet begun? Please return to General Bragg and tell him that I am most distressed at this news, Most distressed!!!" He then dismissed the rider and sat back down to finish the remaining courses of his breakfast.

When the officer returned to Bragg and reported this to him, he later said that at first Bragg was completely quiet, and he then retreated inside his tent, alone, where those outside could hear great swearing and the smashing of chairs and lamps.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2018 09:55 PM (V2Yro)

494 I don't have any ancestors that I know of who were in the Civil War, but I'm always amused by the ribbing that goes on here on both sides. I think it's mostly good-natured. Mostly.

Northerners and Southerners have fought side-by-side in all of our subsequent wars: WWi, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so on.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

495 And some other Memorial Day-related thoughts.
As much as we kid about the "day of the rake" let's also lift a glass to our great Canadian allies, who have been with us in many a battle. In honor of this, let me present to you the Canadian version of "Rose the Riveter" from the WWII era. Like Rosie, she was used to ramp up support for women factory workers during the War. I think the Canucks did a better job than we did on this one:
https://tinyurl.com/yaeczp7d

And for anyone looking for an *excellent* book on the end of the Pacific Theater or WWII, I strongly recommend "Retribution: The Battle for Japan, 1944-1945" by Max Hastings. It is a great piece of work:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307263517

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2018 09:58 PM (hYcqw)

496
I don't have any ancestors that I know of who were in the Civil War, but
I'm always amused by the ribbing that goes on here on both sides. I
think it's mostly good-natured. Mostly.



Northerners and Southerners have fought side-by-side in all of our
subsequent wars: WWi, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so
on.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2018 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

That war left a long legacy, with a lot of hard feelings. But the troops themselves developed a grudging respect for each other earned by fire. Another thing I wish populace would learn more about is the efforts to heal those wounds by the troops themselves.
At Gettysburg alone they brought Union and Confederate troops together for reunions every 25 years or so. I think they still did it up the 75th reunion in 1938, with president FDR attending. Some men died during the reunion, these were really old guys, but they wanted to be there.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 10:05 PM (n13/j)

497 Let's talk about what makes the United States of America the greatest place anyone has ever been blessed to live in.

We have liberties unlike any other people have ever had. Free speech. The right to keep and bear arms.
Posted by: Cm9000 at May 25, 2018 09:54 PM (kWrQ3)
+++++++++
A founding principle and founding document laid out by great men who also understood their limitations and boundless potential for the perfidy of man. I am grateful to have had such unalloyed brilliance in my cultural history. All that we treasure and that we have achieved was enabled by their vision, defended at enormous cost by our armed forces and sustained so far (as trying as times have been for the last generation or so) by a population that understands what it means to be American. I am grateful to have been born here.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2018 10:06 PM (hYcqw)

498 My most famous direct ancestor was Col. Hobart of the 21st Wisconsin, captured at Chickamauga when his regiment (about 400 men) was surrounded on all 4 sides - the rest of the line collapsed and retreated, his unit held firm but then was enveloped by Longstreet's Brigade. He spent a year in Libby prison in Richmond (where officers were held) and then was one of the leaders of one of the first great recorded breakouts from a POW camp. About half of the 100 escapees made it back to union lines, including him. He then was reinstated back into action, and was given a spot as one of Sherman's HQ staff officers during the infamous March through Georgia. So I guess in southern eyes, that's about as lowdown as you can get.

And still I married a southern gal from Louisiana, and now I'm loyal to Texas - so the wheel turns. Btw, she did have some confederate ancestors who involved in the western battles, fought at Pea Ridge in Arkansas and in the Red River campaign. (which the Feds screwed up completely)

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2018 10:09 PM (V2Yro)

499 ONT up

Posted by: Fox2! at May 25, 2018 10:11 PM (brIR5)

500 you know who hated him and spent the next 40
years badmouthing him? Every other officer in the Confederate Army. Oh,
Bragg was despised by his staff! And a lot of hilarious war stories came
out of that.



Yes, I read on some other smart military blog that Bragg was not
exactly well liked by his men or fellow officers. On that note,
sometimes I wonder why the Army decided to name another of its forts
after John Bell Hood. Fort Meade is slightly more understandable. Meade
had a hot temper but a sound instinct for the real enemy-- he hated the
press almost as much as Sherman did.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 25, 2018 09:52 PM (3C9q2)
And they got back at Meade by basically giving all credit to Grant and not writing a thing about Meade once Grant came East. Of course Grant deserved top billing, but historians are pretty clear the press had it in for Meade as he did for them.

Posted by: Quint at May 25, 2018 10:22 PM (n13/j)

501 Wifes great uncle was thought to have been lost over the English channel in a Thunderbolt WW2, They found his body last year buried in France and ID it with DNA, he is home now.

She also lost a cousin in Vietnam.

My side if the family served but we always seemed to make it home or miss the wars by a year or so.

Posted by: Garbone at May 25, 2018 10:33 PM (9dH/8)

502 Got a couple of great,great uncles--think that's how it goes--dead of yellow fever in Cuba.
Missed Korea. Got Purple Hearts WW I and WW II. Brother killed in SEA so I didn't deploy.
Father and three uncles had been in combat here and there, and another not, but were all figuring they'd have to invade Japan for the last act.
I grew up in one of those subdivisions they were slapping up in the Fifties outside big cities. Homes for young guys with families just starting. Meant that practically every adult male on the block was a veteran of WW II. It was like growing up in a giant VFW encampment.
Wouldn't have been much call for those houses without the atomic bomb.

Here's to us.
Who's like us?
Damn' few.
And they're all dead.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at May 25, 2018 11:28 PM (bcw4+)

503 Our family has a history of service dating back to the Revolutionary War.
We cover all branches, and the service ranges from one and done to a career.
One segment or another has managed to have skin in just about every conflict that has happened right up to the present.
My war was Vietnam and I'd prefer not to have to engage in another one.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2018 11:33 PM (S/hVx)

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