Ben Domenech: Is Trump the Most Pro-Life President Ever?

In terms of his actions -- maybe yes.

As far as his personal convictions...? Something the Never Trump sissies claim is the only thing that matters?

I don't know. I doubt it.

But weird thing: I don't care if my doctor is personally invested in my health. All I care about is that he takes the required actions to keep me in good health.

The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:04 PM

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1 FIRST!

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 23, 2018 03:54 PM (I7oij)

2 I shall fetch the others, and read the content.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 23, 2018 03:55 PM (I7oij)

3 I said to my wife last night, it's amazing to think that Donald Trump could be a main leader of the pro-life movement, but he looks like he is.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 03:55 PM (vDqXW)

4 Top 10

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 23, 2018 03:55 PM (89T5c)

5 Top 5?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2018 03:55 PM (neVEe)

6 he is certainly the least cuck president we've had since...oh I don't know...Ike?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 23, 2018 03:56 PM (sB8d1)

7 Trump's convictions are... whatever... but his actions are quantifiable, so yeah, most Pro Life Pres ever....

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 03:56 PM (zSVEm)

8 Top 10?

Posted by: cornbred at May 23, 2018 03:56 PM (xMVUd)

9 I think Trump is for the "underdog."

Used to be, the underdog was leftist, shitty, Bizarro-World outlook.

But since our culture is leftist, shitty and Bizarro-World, decency has become the new underdog.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 23, 2018 03:57 PM (vg8iE)

10 I can't read minds. I CAN read actions.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 23, 2018 03:57 PM (RD7QR)

11 He is keeping his promises, at least trying his hardest to; promises he made to the pro-life groups and really to the public. after years of feckless politicians, its amazing.

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 03:57 PM (a0IVu)

12 Great, now I have earworm of 70s soft rock garbage. Feelings, whoa oh oh feelingz.

Time for some Stevie Ray

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (s3QPD)

13 Feeelings. Nothing more than Feeelings.

We're the submarine in Kristols nightmares.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (xyCFt)

14 The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

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Yep and Trump has forced their hands. He has the liberals and never Trumpers defending criminals that commit horrible acts of violence.

They have no choice now but to be vehemently against anything that Trump voices. They have literally backed themselves into a wall with no way out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

15 He's done more to counter Prenatal Parts than his predecessors.

I'm pro-life, and I'm sick of the ones who say that they are, merely to whore for a dollar or a vote. Then again, I'm sick unto death of so called 'fiscal cons.'

They sold out both life and the budget.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (L3rL9)

16 Who was the commenter here who said that it was truly a miracle of G-d that it would seem the best hope for the unborn would come from a playboy, multi-divorced, billionaire from NYC? Or something close to that?

Grammie?
Lin-duh?
It were a self-identified female, as I recall. And her post was poetry. I'll see if I can find it.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (I7oij)

17 He actually has done more for pro life than sooper Christians like the Bush's.Socking.

Posted by: steevy at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (LiyEm)

18 but surely Jesus is more upset that a p4on star tried to shake down his personal lawyer 2 weeks before the electiojn

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (sB8d1)

19 i thing feels are unimportant.

deeds, not words.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (a7XVt)

20 As if actions matter either.

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (72PAC)

21 The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

The feminization of the country continues apace.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (lRwzc)

22 Trump backs up his verbiage with deeds.... we have had a lot of posturing on abortion before..... often pre- election.... I have been bitterly disappointed by some prior Conservatives.

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (zSVEm)

23 GHWBush: I cannot deny funds to Planned Parent-o-cide

GOPe: Oh well.

W Bush: Derp-a herp-a derp.

GOPe: Oh well.

Trump: Fuck that noise.

GOPe: REEEEEEEEEEEEE~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (LNPd9)

24 Ever I doubt but last 25 years sure

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (aC6Sd)

25 I think Trump was swayed by the disgusting late-term abortion thing.

One of the most effective responses in his 3rd debate with Hillary was re: abortion. Hillary did her best PP talking points and he was simply saying "It's wrong."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdRmnT0Weo

And that's the thing: it's no longer a discussion about months - the feminist ghouls are openly saying we can kill it any time we d@mn well please!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (W+vEI)

26 Unfortunately, I don't think that Roe v Wade will ever be overturned.

However, we CAN de-fang it.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (uDcBt)

27 20 As if actions matter either.
Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (72PAC)

SOON.

Posted by: Mt. Kilauea at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (RD7QR)

28 All I care about is that he takes the required actions to keep me in good health.
Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:04 PM

Two words: Fur Oil.

Posted by: Dr. Gwenyth P., Ewok Physician at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (ctuyM)

29 They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

Spell check Ace.

Posted by: WisRich at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (G0vdT)

30 So far, yes. Both Bushes were strongly pro-life, more so than Reagan, but neither have done as much as this president. For that alone, I honor him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (39g3+)

31 I missed the earlier thread, so I'm just going to let everyone know, I am going to see if I can find a federal judge to rule that if I play Red Rover with President Trump, he has to let me come over.

Let's not even talk about Eany Meany Miney Moe. The 13th Amendment already says Trump isn't allowed to play that.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (9chmE)

32 It's the feminine/nurturing side of Trump that is responsible for this. Psychologically.

Yoiu can tell by the way he spoke when he mad the promises.

Posted by: Undocumented at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (5NMZN)

33 Judge Buchwald, the opinion you wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent opinion were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: The Repealing Judge's Opinion at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (vDqXW)

34 19 i thing feels are unimportant.

deeds, not words.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (a7XVt)

I don't care what people feel, only what they think and do.

If I were still lecturing, and someone said he/she "felt" something, I'd lead the whole lecture theater in a rousing chorus of "Feelings."

I suspect I'd only have to do it once.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (lRwzc)

35 27
20 As if actions matter either.

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (72PAC)

SOON.

Posted by: Mt. Kilauea at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (RD7QR)
Am I bad for laughing at this...

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (a0IVu)

36 We have that rare moment when a president's future hangs on his ability to please his voters. When was the last time that ever happened? Cerally.

Posted by: Gumby at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (2LelM)

37 I agree that late term abortions likely pushed him over the edge...
only the soulless could not be affected by that serial killer level practice....

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (zSVEm)

38 Unfortunately, I don't think that Roe v Wade will ever be overturned.

I don't know. Its a horrible, stupid, lame ruling with the shoddiest of legal support and no constitutional basis. It should be a cake walk to boot that thing into orbit. Its just a question of will, not legal procedure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (39g3+)

39 Just a guess, but he is almost 72 with children and grandchildren that he obviously adores. That can change your beliefs as time marches on.

Posted by: Cheri at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (oiNtH)

40 only the soulless could not be affected by that serial killer level practice....
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Who you callin' "soulless???"

Posted by: Cecile Richards, Atop her Throne of 8-Month Baby Skulls at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (vg8iE)

41 Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (zSVEm)

You spelled lying Hypocrites wrong.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (xyCFt)

42 They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

"Whoa, whoa, whoa, feeeeeeelings ..."

C'mon, gimme a "whoa whoa."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (lRwzc)

43 Haiku!!!!!!

Feelings with Two Scoops
Make us wonder about life,
Pro or not...it works.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (neVEe)

44 I don't know. Its a horrible, stupid, lame ruling with the shoddiest of legal support and no constitutional basis. It should be a cake walk to boot that thing into orbit. Its just a question of will, not legal procedure.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (39g3+)

Cute.

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (72PAC)

45 Trump won the primaries, the nomination ad the election because he actually listened to his base, realized that there was gold to be mined there,and tat by not fucking them over as much as the GOPe, e could prevail.

Also, the Al Smith dinner convinced him, I think, that the fanciful notion that he could continue relations as before with the left was unfeasible.

This is what the base wants, it doesn't hurt him to deliver it, and his enemies are hurt by being incapable of defending it.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 23, 2018 04:02 PM (L3rL9)

46 Trump is the anti-Leftist. He may not be conservative but he's the kiss of death for the the Left and the MFM/Dems.

Posted by: cornbred at May 23, 2018 04:02 PM (xMVUd)

47 >>Unfortunately, I don't think that Roe v Wade will ever be overturned.

It's being beaten back at the state level, which is as it should be (and should have been from the start). The notion that you can abort up until delivery is disgusting.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 04:02 PM (W+vEI)

48 "Is Trump the Most Pro-Life President Ever?"

Such an easy call. And by a wide margin.

The guy is walkin' the walk like no one before him because this nation was never as institutionally hostile to Pro-Life Advocacy as it is now. I never expected this from him. At all. Honestly, I didn't care that much about the issue except that tax monies are involved.

But Trump is talking, schmoozing, acting, succeeding in an arena where "conservative" politicians all the way to the top of the chain have been cowards. Trump simply is not of the same cloth. Who knew? I mean really?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:02 PM (H8S+R)

49 GHWBush: I cannot deny funds to Planned Parent-o-cide

GOPe: Oh well.

W Bush: Derp-a herp-a derp.

GOPe: Oh well.

Trump: Fuck that noise.

GOPe: REEEEEEEEEEEEE~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (LNPd9)

Heh. Actual. Transcript.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:02 PM (9chmE)

50 Not killing babies is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at May 23, 2018 04:02 PM (xBSm0)

51 Let's not even talk about Eany Meany Miney Moe. The 13th Amendment already says Trump isn't allowed to play that.

What about Musical Chairs?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:03 PM (39g3+)

52 He's the one married to McCain's cans, right?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:03 PM (QQ+il)

53 38 Unfortunately, I don't think that Roe v Wade will ever be overturned.

I don't know. Its a horrible, stupid, lame ruling with the shoddiest of legal support and no constitutional basis. It should be a cake walk to boot that thing into orbit. Its just a question of will, not legal procedure.
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Sure it could. I wouldn't outlaw abortion, but its repeal would force the question on what the state's courts think. Get this, there may be 50 different answers on this question which is sorta how many genders we have today.

Posted by: Gumby at May 23, 2018 04:03 PM (2LelM)

54 Billy Bob Kristol is reduced to saying "Trump Conservatives" can be distinguished from "real Conservatives" because they don't care at all about intellectual honesty. As opposed to cleaning up the morass-theater in which Kristol is a card-carrying minor actor.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 23, 2018 04:03 PM (LISuA)

55 If you fight for Trump, he will fight for you. Pro-life and immigration control folks fight for him. He returns the favor.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (wGbBR)

56 Both Bushes were strongly pro-life, more so than
Reagan, but neither have done as much as this president. For that
alone, I honor him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (39g3+)

Laura and both Bush daughters are big Planned Parenthood supporters.

Afternoon, all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (ptqGC)

57 C'mon, gimme a "whoa whoa."

I didn't get a whoa whoa from that guy.....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (39g3+)

58 Individual states should decide about abortion and gay marriage.

Posted by: steevy at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (LiyEm)

59 Trump is easily the most pro-Christian President since Reagan, the other divorcee Chief Executive.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (QQ+il)

60 >>>But weird thing: I don't care if my doctor is personally invested in my health. All I care about is that he takes the required actions to keep me in good health.

I'm still waiting for the Japanese to invent robot doctors.

The English import all these third world butcher idiots into the NHS to serve as crappy doctors just to lower costs. Let's say that could be done away with. Cheap, high quality medical care, thanks to automation. And only the Nips have the guts to pull it off because they are intelligent racists who don't give a fuck about what the rest of the world thinks.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (/qEW2)

61 I consider the president to be my employee. I don't care what my employees do on their free time unless it impacts their job performance. Trump's actions as president are more in line with what I want a president to do than anyone since Reagan.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (7ZVPa)

62 I knew.

Posted by: eleven at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (+lOpA)

63 Laura and both Bush daughters are big Planned Parenthood supporters.

Not to mentioned the recently hell bound Barbara.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (QQ+il)

64 Religion of peace update:

Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (+y/Ru)

65

EM CREAM BRULEE FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (pYqXv)

66 I find it horribly disturbingly ironic that a sizeable number of Progressives would be horrified by the practice of drowning puppies or kittens, but are blase or even supportive of killing children who happen to be not quite born...

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (zSVEm)

67 Yo Jane!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (neVEe)

68 No, I didn't know.

Posted by: eleven at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (+lOpA)

69 Sean Davis, Mollie Hemingway and Kim Strassel are having a field day today ripping the lefties to absolute shreds on twitter, but this tweet might just be my favorite blast of all.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9hc6lzg

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (LISuA)

70 16 Who was the commenter here who said that it was truly a miracle of G-d that it would seem the best hope for the unborn would come from a playboy, multi-divorced, billionaire from NYC? Or something close to that?

Grammie?
Lin-duh?
It were a self-identified female, as I recall. And her post was poetry. I'll see if I can find it.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (I7oij)

God makes straight with crooked paths.

He will use whomever He decides to use for His purposes, and we shall not know them until our end.

Apparently, nice Christians weren't getting the job done (clearly), and remained stiff-necked when it came to His Work. He raised a new Joshua and sent him into the Holy Land, baby.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (7UW64)

71 32 It's the feminine/nurturing side of Trump that is responsible for this. Psychologically.

Yoiu can tell by the way he spoke when he mad the promises.

WTF with this??

Posted by: Lowfibass at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (BrqlK)

72
I like to respond to lefties with barack obama should have been killed in the room.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (r+sAi)

73 JFC, what the hell is wrong with these people? I guess they'd rather listen to a bunch of bullshit platitudes from their lying sack o'crap politician than someone who actually takes action on the policies they want enacted.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (rdl6o)

74 Unfortunately, I don't think that Roe v Wade will ever be overturned.

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I don't know. Its a horrible, stupid, lame ruling with the
shoddiest of legal support and no constitutional basis. It should be a
cake walk to boot that thing into orbit. Its just a question of will,
not legal procedure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:01 PM (39g3+)

If people really want it taken care of, they have to sell it as a states rights issue. A steady, constant, persistent drumbeat of states rights, leading to this one, that one, and the next "hot button" issue that comes along.

Get the godforsaken fed out of the business of thinking it's supposed to regulate individual behavior.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (9chmE)

75 Not to mentioned the recently hell bound Barbara.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (QQ+il)

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Love ya Grump, but you don't know that.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (4aVpH)

76 64 Religion of peace update:

Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (+y/Ru)

Not exactly Dale Carnegie graduates, are they?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

77 I admit to being one of at least a few people here during the dark-days of Primary Season 2016 who was very, very concerned about nominating a NYC liberal for President.

I'm happy to eat those concerns with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Posted by: DocJ at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (wzkM8)

78
womb, not room. Where did that come from brain?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (r+sAi)

79 Prescott Bush was head of planned Parenthood. W Bush's daughter works for pp right now.

They were always phony.

Posted by: Jihadi at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (RrtlF)

80 I'm still waiting for the Japanese to invent robot doctors.

When I got my glasses, I went to Wal*Mart because that's where I could afford to get them done. They have this whole array of steampunk machines that check your eyes with all these computers and little puffs of air that blow in your eye and measuring devices. Its amazing stuff.

There are things you'll never, ever be able to replace with a machine, some tasks you will always need a human there for. But for most basic things and tasks a doctor does, most routine surgery and various tests... you don't need a person there to do it. And that frees up doctors to do actual important work rather than drudgery and routine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (39g3+)

81 Call it a hunch: After eight years of Trump, and at least four more of Pence (possibly eight if the Demunist Commiecrats continue to go down the path they are on), and Republican majorities remaining in Congress (assuming Dems continue as aforementioned) paying for someone else's abortions will stop, but the practice will remain, at least in most states.

Even appointing real judges who don't make up law to suit them just means the issue goes back to states.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (ujg0T)

82 Yes, Trump is the most pro-life, and I don't recall anyone other than maybe Reagan speaking out more boldly on Pro-life issues.

Posted by: SteveOReno at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (2sCft)

83 Not to mentioned the recently hell bound Barbara.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (QQ+il)
=========

I laughed at this. What's wrong with me?

I am a horrible person.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (vg8iE)

84 Trump clobbered her in that third debate. Second one too.

I never did understand all that "Hillary clearly won all 3 debates" horsesh!t.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (pxOl8)

85 Laura and both Bush daughters are big Planned Parenthood supporters.

Not to mentioned the recently hell bound Barbara.
Posted by: Grump928(c)

Not a problem.

We know them for what they are, and they can spend their money keeping that shit house afloat. Not ours.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (L3rL9)

86 58 Individual states should decide about abortion and gay marriage.

Posted by: steevy at May 23, 2018 04:04 PM (LiyEm)

Not so sure about that. Should the states also decide about murder, rape and public health?

There are compelling reasons why this is Federal deal, I think.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (7UW64)

87 Trump is governing in a far more conservative manner than many of us late-to-jump-on-the-MAGA-train types could've of hoped. MOAR WINNING!

Posted by: Hands at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (EzdLW)

88 I like to respond to lefties with barack obama should have been killed in the room.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (r+sAi)

I've pointed out Obama's stupidity: if abortion had been legal in 1960, he'd have wound up in a metal pail on some gynecologist's floor.

Apparently, he hadn't figured that out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

89 The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

or over analyzing and finding motives for his actions

"he's doing this because... so it's not real"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (fceHP)

90 Trump: Fuck that noise.
GOPe: REEEEEEEEEEEEE~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (LNPd9

Ha ha!

Posted by: Max Power at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (q177U)

91 Billy Bob Kristol is reduced to saying "Trump Conservatives" can be distinguished from "real Conservatives" because they don't care at all about intellectual honesty.

-
That, plus Trump conservatives won't bend over and spread them for our betters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (+y/Ru)

92 Valencia de la Concepcion, near Seville
Tholos tomb, 2800 BC
a local prince buried with crystal dagger and twenty [20] young women

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (V1n0s)

93 Not so sure about that. Should the states also decide about murder, rape and public health?

There are compelling reasons why this is Federal deal, I think.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (7UW64)

I agree. In almost every case I say it's a state's rights issue, leave it to them.

Not baby killing.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (72PAC)

94 Apparently, nice Christians weren't getting the job
done (clearly), and remained stiff-necked when it came to His Work. He
raised a new Joshua and sent him into the Holy Land, baby.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (7UW64)
Love this...can I steal it?

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (a0IVu)

95 Let's not even talk about Eany Meany Miney Moe. The 13th Amendment already says Trump isn't allowed to play that.

--------------------------------------
What about Musical Chairs?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:03 PM (39g3+)

Hmmm, commerce clause?

I'm not sure, I'm not a constitutional scholar. Nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (9chmE)

96 He will use whomever He decides to use for His purposes, and we shall not know them until our end.

Just ask Habakkuk. God uses the heathen and the ungodly to get His plan accomplished. Usually when His own people are too stubborn, sinful, and rebellious to do what they are supposed to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (39g3+)

97 "Trump Conservatives" can be distinguished from "real Conservatives" because they...

Occasionally win.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (pxOl8)

98 Not to mentioned the recently hell bound Barbara.
Posted by: Grump928(c)

Why would you know that she's hell bound?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (vw6r3)

99 In the debate Trump was asked if he would roll back Roe v. Wade and he said he would appoint only pro-life SCOTUS judges, and if he gets to appoint 2 it will be rolled back to the states.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (W+vEI)

100 87 Trump is governing in a far more conservative manner than many of us late-to-jump-on-the-MAGA-train types could've of hoped. MOAR WINNING!
Posted by: Hands at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (EzdLW)

I was early on the Trump train, but strictly for tactical reasons - I thought he was the only hope to win the election.

Having said that, I've been surprised and gratified by how conservative his policies have been.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:10 PM (YqDXo)

101 I have to play some Bach to get that faggy "Feelings " song out of my head! Was there a federal law that required songs from that era to sound like they were sung by a constipated soprano?

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2018 04:10 PM (V+03K)

102 This, more than anything else, is what drives the #SalonHot25 types insane about Trump - the man actually does what he says. He delivers, and expects those around him to do this same.

Much the same reason why CONgress hates him - Trump demands results.

The Conservative For The Paycheck types talk a decent game, sometimes. But haven't delivered fvck-all zilch in 25-years.

Posted by: DocJ at May 23, 2018 04:10 PM (wzkM8)

103 Not so sure about that. Should the states also decide about murder, rape and public health?

There are compelling reasons why this is Federal deal, I think.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (7UW64)

Yes, yes and yes.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:10 PM (9chmE)

104 Abortion as a medical procedure should not be banned.

It's a medical decision. Or should be.

That's the problem; they expanded the definition of medically necessary for the patients' health into one that covered psychological health and then parlayed that into covering the patients reaction to being responsible for rearing a child.

And the right hasn't been open to any compromises which though they're not palatable would at least create some limits.

Or seem more sane.

The idea that we can't get a procedure as barbaric as partial birth abortion banned anywhere in any state is terrible.

Between never and whenever there has to be a common point to be agreed on. I believe that a law made to define when life starts that is medically supported might be the best we can hope for.

Move the goal posts later like the left does.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (xyCFt)

105 Did you know that Lindsay Wagner sang "Feelings" once on "The Bionic Woman?"

Did you want to?

Wikipedia.

Posted by: filbert at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (953wK)

106 101. '70's Pop and the '70's drugs. Really a chicken and egg problem, innit?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (fA1SL)

107 I tried to kill a bunny once.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (jbcJ8)

108 Not so sure about that. Should the states also decide about murder, rape and public health?

There are compelling reasons why this is Federal deal, I think.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (7UW64)

Murder and rape are state matters already.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (YqDXo)

109 Yeah I guess we are only taliking of Presidents since Roe because before that it wasnt hardly a topic from them. So that can only be Reagan or Trump.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (aC6Sd)

110 God use agents, and he also uses instruments... I am starting to think Trump's status is evolving before our eyes....

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (zSVEm)

111 Hi Fen!

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (4aVpH)

112 Laura and both Bush daughters are big Planned Parenthood supporters.

I really believe Trump (whatever his personal thoughts on abortion) completely agrees with us on this point: I think he will end federal budget money for Planned Parenthood before he leaves office.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (LISuA)

113 '70's Pop and the '70's drugs.

Mountains come out of the sky and they stand there!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (pxOl8)

114 58 Individual states should decide about abortion and gay marriage.
It is unconstitutional to discuss these subjects.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (xBSm0)

115 I never did understand all that "Hillary clearly won all 3 debates" horsesh!t.

I think it was based on the idea that Hillary was more conventional and used the typical debate style and Trump just came in there, did his thing, and won people over. So by the usual rules and patterns of debate, she did better, but by the standards of "who won more votes" he did.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (39g3+)

116 Not so sure about that. Should the states also decide about murder, rape and public health?

There are compelling reasons why this is Federal deal, I think.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (7UW64)

public health? and those others crimes are state crimes unless there is some federal jurisdiction afaik.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (n13/j)

117 Everybody knows ya do not fuck with Donnie Two Scoops.

Posted by: Soona at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (Fs5vw)

118
I don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (r+sAi)

119 Whatevs, but people who don't agree with it shouldn't be forced to pay for it.
And whacking the funding to MasterPlanned Parenthood is long overdue.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge #2 at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (37IEG)

120 101 I have to play some Bach to get that faggy "Feelings " song out of my head! Was there a federal law that required songs from that era to sound like they were sung by a constipated soprano?
Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2018 04:10 PM (V+03K)

Wasn't "Feelings" one of Barbra "The Anteater" Streisand's signature tunes?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (YqDXo)

121 What's funny is the bar is set so low to be the "Most Pro Life" President.
Did Trump even go in person to the March for Life yet?
Not that I'm complaining.
I'll take every win I can get. See the Never Trump pussies don't get this. We HAVE to WIN! See Win or Lose, they have their sinecures. We don't. They enjoy being in their gilded cages. We don't. That's why they got Trump.

Posted by: Iblis at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (9221z)

122 IIRC abortion was legal with varying regulations in about 25 states before Roe v Wade.

Posted by: steevy at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (LiyEm)

123 The states already decide about murder and rape. States broadly criminalize these acts, but do so in different ways with different punishment ranges. Much public health laws are state laws too.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (MM3j3)

124 I never did understand all that "Hillary clearly won all 3 debates" horsesh!t.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (pxOl

The same people that give Trump #twoweeks.

Posted by: eleven at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (+lOpA)

125
Valencia de la Concepcion, near Seville
Tholos tomb, 2800 BC
a local prince buried with crystal dagger and twenty [20] young women
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM

One dagger, twenty wives? Somehow seems insufficient.

I denounce myself

Posted by: Hands at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (EzdLW)

126 119 Whatevs, but people who don't agree with it shouldn't be forced to pay for it.
And whacking the funding to MasterPlanned Parenthood is long overdue.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge #2 at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (37IEG)

Now about NEA, and PBS ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (YqDXo)

127 I argue that the 14th amendment already outlaws abortion at a federal level: no person may be deprived of life without due process.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)

128 Let's not even talk about Eany Meany Miney Moe. The 13th Amendment already says Trump isn't allowed to play that.
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I await a ruling on One Potato, two potato...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (jbcJ8)

129 114 58 Individual states should decide about abortion and gay marriage.
It is unconstitutional to discuss these subjects.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (xBSm0)

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Getting real tired of your crap...

Posted by: Pele - Volcano godess getting irked at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (4aVpH)

130 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (7UW64)

This is also wonderful.

I can't find the comment or even the thread I'm thinking of. It may have back when Trump addressed the Pro-Life March last year. How does one search the comments or even dredge up old threads?

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (I7oij)

131 eleven: "No, I didn't know."

That's what I'm talkin' about. We have this gut instinct that Trump could do something, but precedent and experience has proven over and over again that politicians are full of rhetoric and sh*t but mostly sh*t. So why, ultimately, get your expectations too high when you just know it's just words? And then Trump, the anti-politician comes in and just flips everything upside down. So, you "know", but not really. And then you realize your first instinct pays off. It's so abnormal in the political world.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (H8S+R)

132
34 19 i thing feels are unimportant.

deeds, not words.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (a7XVt)

I don't care what people feel, only what they think and do.

If I were still lecturing, and someone said he/she "felt" something, I'd lead the whole lecture theater in a rousing chorus of "Feelings."

I suspect I'd only have to do it once.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:00 PM (lRwzc)

During the campaign, I got a good chuckle at the Trump booth at one of the Dallas gun shows where they were selling bumper stickers that said "Trump '16, Because Fuck Your Feelings"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (XWkhW)

133 Judge Buchwald, the opinion you wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read.

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She completely missed the point that since Twitter wasn't in existence when the first amendment was drafted, it doesn't even apply. It's the gun grabber rule.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (+y/Ru)

134 118
I don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (r+sAi)

I do wonder what would have happened if the Demunists had tried to seduce The Donald instead of demonizing and villifying him.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (ujg0T)

135 124
I never did understand all that "Hillary clearly won all 3 debates" horsesh!t.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:07 PM (pxOl

What are you talking about! I'm President! in ALL universes! *hic*

Posted by: Mecha_Hillary_2018 at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (37IEG)

136 117 - I hope Brennan, Clapper, Lynch, Yates and a few others learn that the hard way.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (aC6Sd)

137 I can't really grasp the logical fallacy of Kristol and his ilk. We voted for someone who actually does what he promised - who cares about his personality?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (7ZVPa)

138 a constipated soprano

There's another kind?

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (L3rL9)

139 I don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (r+sAi)

My belief is, as a politically descriptive term, "conservative" is almost entirely useless at this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (9chmE)

140 Clinton and Richards were besties for political reasons and cold hard cash. Clinton praised Richards as waking up every day to defend women's rights which are human rights.

Except if you are in the womb.

I thank God every day that this harridan was not elected.

Posted by: Cheri at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (oiNtH)

141 Principles=Feelings

Action=influencing outcomes

Who are NeverTrumpers influencing?

Posted by: TJ at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (YzMAB)

142 Maybe Trump is an old school liberal...

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (zSVEm)

143 I await a ruling on One Potato, two potato...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (jbcJ

Or rock, paper, scissors.

I think the new deciding legal principle should be throwing someone a bat, and then grasping above his grip until you get to the knob of the bat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

144 >>>The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

What was dat? *smack* Dis is not a chawade. Dis require totaw concentwation. Now, once more, with feeeewing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (/qEW2)

145 What are you talking about! I'm President! in ALL universes! *hic*

Posted by: Mecha_Hillary_2018

"Trust me you dodged a bullet in this reality. You have no idea"
--Voters from Earth-218 where Hillary won

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (39g3+)

146 Trump is governing in a far more conservative manner than many of us late-to-jump-on-the-MAGA-train types could've of hoped. MOAR WINNING!
Posted by: Hands at May 23, 2018 04:08 PM (EzdLW)
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He definitely is. I kind of bought Cruz' "New York Values" line and I remember being on here one night close to November saying that we all had to realize what a gamble this guy was.

I was so wrong. I expected him to go left long before this.

I still think it's lucky we have the left asking Trump to spite them. But, now, I think the left are making people like Trump Jr. life-long conservatives.

Who wants to be fashionable with that?!

Posted by: The Repealing Judge's Opinion at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (vDqXW)

147 Religion of peace update:

Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (+y/Ru)

link?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (fceHP)

148 Hi Fen!
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (4aVpH)

Hi; Good to "see" you. How are you doing?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (vw6r3)

149 138 a constipated soprano

There's another kind?

Annie Haslam. Not constipated.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (pxOl8)

150
Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM <<<<<<

The Left will never agree to any restrictions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (r+sAi)

151 I thank God every day that this harridan was not elected.
Posted by: Cheri at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (oiNtH)

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Amen.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (4aVpH)

152 Posted by: The Repealing Judge's Opinion at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (vDqXW)
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Sticky sock off!

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (vDqXW)

153 I never did understand all that "Hillary clearly won all 3 debates" horsesh!t.

A: the ones were she was fed the questions beforehand?

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:16 PM (L3rL9)

154 I have to play some Bach to get that faggy "Feelings " song out of my head!

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Good choice since because Bach had 20 kids we know he wasn't faggy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (+y/Ru)

155 30 So far, yes. Both Bushes were strongly pro-life, more so than Reagan, but neither have done as much as this president. For that alone, I honor him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (39g3+)

No, they weren't pro-life. They said so for the record so that they wouldn't lose donations from the evangelicals, and compared to the competition, they were better, but they were no more pro-life than my dog.

Non-evangelical and non-Catholic Christians are often allowed to be pro-abort without guilt. It isn't a blanket truth, but, for instance, CoE thinks abortion is just fine, as do Methodists, Unitarians (who aren't really Christian anyway), Presbyterians, and any number of other groups who have crossed that line in a bid to attract pro-aborts to their churches. There are even some (very nominal) Catholics who are pro-homosexuality and pro-abort; they are self-excommunicated, and they aren't welcome in polite Catholic society, but they exist and they are noisy as hell.

Being a Christian isn't necessarily an indication that one is pro-life.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (7UW64)

156 Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"

Should have put those darn beaches in hijab.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (vw6r3)

157 Yes, Trump is the most pro-life, and I don't recall anyone other than maybe Reagan speaking out more boldly on Pro-life issues.
Posted by: SteveOReno

It wasn't a "thing" with other presidents.

Ike? Teddy Roosevelt? Lincoln?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (GWDdA)

158 Let's not even talk about Eany Meany Miney Moe. The 13th Amendment already says Trump isn't allowed to play that.

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I await a ruling on One Potato, two potato...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (jbcJ

Is the President allowed to call into a radio station's "pump it or dump" hour?

If one's dog is wearing a party hat, is he allowed to weigh in on whether he likes it or not?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (9chmE)

159 Religion of peace update:

Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:05 PM (+y/Ru)

link?

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Weasel Zippers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:18 PM (+y/Ru)

160 The thing is though that when Trump advanced the idea that he had converted to a pro-life stance, he just didn't seem to make a compelling case.

But I'd guess in truth, one can just decide, is some non-dramatic way that you're pro-life and go from there.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:18 PM (vDqXW)

161 Doing great Fen!

Just finished cleaning goat poo from out between a two-year old's toes.

The joys of gammyhood.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:18 PM (4aVpH)

162 Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"

The dangerous objects are muzzie rapists.

Posted by: Roy at May 23, 2018 04:18 PM (7n4KQ)

163 134 118
I don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (r+sAi)

I do wonder what would have happened if the Demunists had tried to seduce The Donald instead of demonizing and villifying him.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:14 PM (ujg0T)

With respect, I have to disagree. I think he knows his mind, and has too much ego to be easily swayed by ... anybody. Look at how easily he has withstood the vitriolic attacks aimed at him. A weaker man - i.e., one more susceptible to social blandishments - would have crumbled under that onslaught. Yet Trump acts as though he's largely unaware of it, and swats away at others like they're gnats buzzing around him.

From his history, I bet a zillion people have tried to intimidate and/or schmooze him, and I suspect largely without effect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

164 Trump strikes me as the kind of guy who (heaven forbid!) actually tries to do what his constituents want him to do. Mostly, anyhow, and to the the best of his ability to do so.
He himself may not care either way about abortion. Or maybe he's pro life but only marginally so. Or something in between. I don't think it matters.
Trump knows that the people who elected him largely want pro life policies in place, so that's what he is trying to implement.

This is how our government is supposed to work. The people send representatives to Washington to implement THEIR will, not that representative's personal will. It just hasn't been actually practiced that way by anybody for so long, it's a refreshing shock.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (oyCqX)

165 I like Cruz, so hold the rotten tomatos...but the "New York values" line was horrible, it damaged him greatly, and I took a lot of abuse for saying so at the time.

And I GET it. Hell, I lived in NY at the time he said it. And I fully agree with him. (not on TRUMP having "NY values' but on the "NY values" in general.)

But it was terrible retail politicking on Cruz's part.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (pxOl8)

166 Is the President allowed to call into a radio station's "pump it or dump" hour?

If one's dog is wearing a party hat, is he allowed to weigh in on whether he likes it or not?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (9chmE)
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I don't think we should allow him to turn a radio off. After all those musical talents have a right to be heard as well.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (vDqXW)

167 Here is my thing. I rather doubt anyone but the most radical demonrats really think abortion after say 20 weeks is a good thing that should be protected.

Now lots of country club Repubs probably want their daughters or nieces etc to have the option of an RU-486 or whatever.

Given that what we have now is some states, cough, NM, cough, allow fetal murder at 8 months we can move toward sanity, or less evil if you prefer by prohibiting that at the federal level. And then we could let states decide they want to offer pro-life docs a safe haven and prohibit any abortion where there is a fetal heartbeat or something. Its not like the women in those states cannot travel to Shitcago or somewhere within the 20 weeks if we made that a federal red line.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (eASYU)

168 We're still framing it in the terms of the opposition by saying "pro life".
Let's face it, what they're doing is about as pro-death as it can get.

Well, short of building MasterPlanned Parenthood temples in the heart of every city and having a featherwearing doctors slice woman open, pull out the child, and offer it to Moloch right there, couple hundred shows a day.

Posted by: DurnedYankee at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (37IEG)

169 tcn, I happen to know some Catholic women who are pro-choice. Please don't paint all Protestants with the same broad brush.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (ptqGC)

170 don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:12 PM (r+sAi)
I am not saying this is an exact comparison. But this makes me think about George Washington. He wanted nothing more than to be accepted as an equal into the British officer corps. . They spurned him and well, you know the rest.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (n13/j)

171 Please also consider that perhaps Trump is okay with abortion, but knows it is bad for the country. I rather feel that he can separate his personal feelings from his executive actions. He isn't stupid and knows that some things are done for the good of others, not just to make his own personal opinions known.

Maybe.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (7UW64)

172 I don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.
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I figure Haspel may have developed a distaste for them also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (jbcJ8)

173 I await a ruling on One Potato, two potato...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (jbcJ

Or rock, paper, scissors.

I think the new deciding legal principle should be throwing someone a
bat, and then grasping above his grip until you get to the knob of the
bat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (YqDXo)

In a different context, I think South Park had a workable solution: On a platform of various options, cut the head off a chicken, wherever the body lands, that's the ruling.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (9chmE)

174 But it was terrible retail politicking on Cruz's part.

Cruz has bad political instincts. He will never be President, unless it's President of the Republic of Texas.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (QQ+il)

175 106 That is the funny thing about Islam, join or die isn't just a slogan its their philosophy.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (aC6Sd)

176 144 >>>The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

What was dat? *smack* Dis is not a chawade. Dis require totaw concentwation. Now, once more, with feeeewing.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 23, 2018 04:15 PM (/qEW2)

"Whoa, whoa, whoa ... "

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

177 I can't really grasp the logical fallacy of Kristol and his ilk. We voted for someone who actually does what he promised - who cares about his personality?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada

Mostly because Bill and the other NeverTrumper columnists are really Uniparty statists. And Trump didn't bother to get his approval to run.

He didnt' bend the knee; he told them to go horsefuck and then laughed at them while he ran the table.

It's personal for them because Trump is the raging narcissist they all have inside them, except he wins.

Their narcissism leads them to be the foppish, velvet-gloved ponces that wallow in loser-hood.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:21 PM (LNPd9)

178 >>I don't think Trump is conservative, I think he is just pissed off at Leftists. And he is the type to get the last word.

He's from a pre-progressive era and has held on to those values and traditions. You stand for the anthem, you make sure the military funded and enabled to kick ass, you stand back and let businesses flourish without burdensome regulations and so on.

I think THE key difference between him and, say, Cruz, is that he didn't have to compromise any of his beliefs to get the big donations. There's no need to be flexible on immigration to please whatever "conservative" billionaire he needs to fund his candidacy. He owes no billionaire or activist org. any favors for helping him get into office. This is HUGE.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 04:21 PM (W+vEI)

179 No, they weren't pro-life. They said so for the record so that they wouldn't lose donations from the evangelicals, and compared to the competition, they were better, but they were no more pro-life than my dog.

Both too specific and tangible action to protect baby's lives. They shut off the Mexico City policy first day taking office, for example. They DID pro-life stuff. Remember all the heat W took for pulling government funding for experimenting on unborn babies for stem cell research?

Whatever their wives or kids thought, they walked the walk, too. Just not as much as President Trump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:21 PM (39g3+)

180 I have to clean out goat poo from my nether regions daily.

Posted by: Achmed at May 23, 2018 04:21 PM (89T5c)

181 174
But it was terrible retail politicking on Cruz's part.

Cruz has bad political instincts. He will never be President, unless it's President of the Republic of Texas.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (QQ+il)
The snakeJesus thing won't fly here.

Posted by: DurnedYankee at May 23, 2018 04:21 PM (37IEG)

182 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (7UW64)

The group that has endorsed abortion in the UM church is the Board of Church and Society-very leftist group which does not determine doctrine. Changes in the Book of Worship are determined by the vote of General Conference which happens every four years and includes Methodist world Wide. You, will of course find Methodist who come down on all points of view on abortion. There is no official stand. You8 will find many in the more conservative churches opposed to abortion.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:21 PM (vw6r3)

183 106 101. '70's Pop and the '70's drugs. Really a chicken and egg problem, innit?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (fA1SL)

Feedback loop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 23, 2018 04:22 PM (RD7QR)

184 I find abortion in general a horrible thing... but being male, I have heard and read that my male opinion is tainted by my being.... male...

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:22 PM (zSVEm)

185 174 But it was terrible retail politicking on Cruz's part.

Cruz has bad political instincts. He will never be President, unless it's President of the Republic of Texas.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM (QQ+il)

It's what put me off Cruz: I didn't believe he had a dog's chance of winning. He is a terrible retail politician, whatever his other virtues (which would be irrelevant, if he didn't get elected). Now on the Supreme Court ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:22 PM (YqDXo)

186 I don't think we should allow him to turn a radio off. After all those musical talents have a right to be heard as well.
Posted by: Axeman
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NYT editorials and Letters to the Editor must be read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:22 PM (jbcJ8)

187 I remember hearing a relayed quote by Trump, that apparently somebody had gotten from a small group discussion with him during the campaign.

He is said to say "You conservatives have been under-served by the people you've elected."

I thought it was interesting at the time I heard it. And kind of neat. From his inauguration on, it looks like he's been governing that way.

At first, he didn't come out as a big Constitutionalist. But I think some Constitutionalists convinced him, and he started talking more Constitution. He didn't sound really small government at first either, but then he did.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (vDqXW)

188 Good choice since because Bach had 20 kids

"Well, 20 kids that I know of..."
--Johann Sebastian Bach

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)

189 What You Do matters a Hell of a lot more than What You Say.

But what can you expect ... Republicans are always way too busy "picking their battles" to do much of anything.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (kxUnS)

190 169 tcn, I happen to know some Catholic women who are pro-choice. Please don't paint all Protestants with the same broad brush.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2018 04:19 PM (ptqGC)

Jane, please be assured that I mean no disrespect, but if a woman is pro-choice, then she is not Catholic. And my comments were about the official church statements from the denominations, not any personal sentiment or animus.

A Catholic excommunicates him or herself by holding opinions contrary to Church dogma, and there is no question whatsoever that being pro-choice is, indeed, contrary to dogma.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (7UW64)

191 Love ya Grump, but you don't know that.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (4aVpH)

Why would you know that she's hell bound?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (vw6r3)

Pretty sure they were being sarcastic?

I'm not fond of Barbara politically cause she was married to and raised some pretty weak politicians the GOP would've done better without.

But she didn't deserve what the left dished out.

Grump's just making fun of them I think.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (xyCFt)

192 NYT editorials and Letters to the Editor must be read.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2018 04:22 PM (jbcJ

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Arranging his schedule right now.

Posted by: Judge Buchenwald at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (vDqXW)

193 The thing is though that when Trump advanced the
idea that he had converted to a pro-life stance, he just didn't seem to
make a compelling case.

But I'd guess in truth, one can just decide, is some non-dramatic way that you're pro-life and go from there.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:18 PM

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No different from when I switched form supporting the death penalty to "not quite sure". I didn't just wake up one day and say......snap we have executed innocent people and we need to stop it.

It was a gradual thing at least in my case.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (+Dllb)

194 Wild Card- look up what Melania Trump did during their visit to the Vatican. She seems to have converted between 2005 and the trip.Also seems to be a pretty strong believer. Few would look to get rosaries blessed. We know how his kids feel. Betting she feels differntly and perhaps pushed it.

Posted by: Mac at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (fOoQ8)

195 I dgaf what Trumps personality or personal feelings are, he's been and hopefully will continue to be thew most conservative president in over 80 years. (Coolidge by my reckoning)

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (0OmEj)

196
I think he knows his mind, and has too much ego to be easily swayed by ... anybody <<<<<<<<

I remember him saying in the campaign he thought PP did some good things, buying that they did breast and ovarian cancer screenings. He flipped a couple of days later, probably after getting some info.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (r+sAi)

197 Trump maybe a bad christian, but he is a good churchman.

Many of the best leaders in Western History would fall into that classification. Otherwise we would all have been good Muslims now and there is a reason why we are not.

Posted by: William Eaton at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (MuTTO)

198 I think pro-lifers overestimate the appeal of the position. A lot of folks say they are pro-life because there's nothing to do; the Supreme Court has essentially removed it from the ordinary political process. If that changed, you'd find out where the GOP really stood. Kinda like Obamacare.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (MM3j3)

199 thoughts and ideas only Conservatives are just Progressives fooling themselves.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (JFO2v)

200 Betting she feels differntly and perhaps pushed it.

That's my thought, that Melania has been a very positive influence on President Trump and he has benefited tremendously from her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (39g3+)

201 As far as Trump being a bad Christian... lots of days, so am I...

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (zSVEm)

202 >> Please also consider that perhaps Trump is okay with abortion, but knows it is bad for the country. I rather feel that he can separate his personal feelings from his executive actions. He isn't stupid and knows that some things are done for the good of others, not just to make his own personal opinions known.

Maybe.
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Watch this from the debate - start at ~3:40.
He believes it.

The activists have moved the debate from 'is abortion OK?" to 'why should there be any restrictions?' so Trump is rightly saying "Late term abortion is UNACCEPTABLE, and this should be put back to the states to decide how much abortion, if any, is OK"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdRmnT0Weo

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (W+vEI)

203 Its really to nice out to be inside, should go clean up branches so I can cut the yard.
Oh yeah, Sharyl Attkisson was on with Seb Gorka sitting in foe Prager and her count is 7 Trump people who were spyed on that we know so far.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2018 04:26 PM (aC6Sd)

204 37 I agree that late term abortions likely pushed him over the edge...
only the soulless could not be affected by that serial killer level practice....
______________________

Those parts-peddling ghouls at Planned Un-Parenthood may have contributed as well.

I know they turned my stomach.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer, Tall Imperial Majesty . . . at May 23, 2018 04:26 PM (fqUgw)

205 I think if a woman is pro-choice she's really not Christian.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 23, 2018 04:26 PM (89T5c)

206 Okay, now thanks to Steve and Cold Bear, I'm re-watching "A Fistful Of Yen."

Posted by: filbert at May 23, 2018 04:26 PM (953wK)

207
HA!

First Again,,

This has got to be some kinda' record, no?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 23, 2018 04:26 PM (mPeei)

208
As far as Trump being a bad Christian... lots of days, so am I...

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (zSVEm)

*fistbump*

We're all sinners, every single day. It's a struggle.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2018 04:26 PM (ptqGC)

209 What we are not used to is what happens to a President or politician in general after they get to DC. We are used to the majority playing along and giving lip service to maintain their positions and power. Trump hasn't and I believe he is actually disgusted by what he found after election.

Posted by: Cheri at May 23, 2018 04:27 PM (oiNtH)

210 I think he knows his mind, and has too much ego to be easily swayed by ... anybody

I remember him saying in the campaign he thought PP did some good things, buying that they did breast and ovarian cancer screenings. He flipped a couple of days later, probably after getting some info.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (r+sAi)

They DO do some good things. But I don't hold it against someone to change his mind in view of new information being adduced. In fact, quite the contrary; I think that that's admirable to reconsider your position in light of new information. (Assuming that that's what happened.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:27 PM (YqDXo)

211 Trump strikes me as the kind of guy who (heaven forbid!) actually tries to do what his constituents want him to do. Mostly, anyhow, and to the the best of his ability to do so.
He himself may not care either way about abortion. Or maybe he's pro life but only marginally so. Or something in between. I don't think it matters.
Trump knows that the people who elected him largely want pro life policies in place, so that's what he is trying to implement.

As someone else noted, the left defends ALL abortions, and denies women their rights if they CHOOSE to carry (ex: in CO, murdering someone's unborn child isn't murder; it's some other bullshit charge).

Hammering this is low hanging fruit.

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:28 PM (L3rL9)

212 I think if a woman is pro-choice she's really not Christian.

Thankfully we are not saved by the correctness of our theology, only by the doing and dying of Jesus Christ put to our account by the Father, through the working of the Holy Spirit. Anything less and I'd already be hellbound.

That said, it is very difficult to understand how a mother could possibly be pro-abortion, particularly a Christian.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:28 PM (39g3+)

213 Trump is cheating. He's doing what he promised the electorate he would do. How can we compete against that?

Posted by: Nanzi Pelosi, Schmukie Tumor et al. at May 23, 2018 04:28 PM (+y/Ru)

214 I vaguely recall a story Trump told while campaigning, about how he came to be pro-life.

A friend of his described how he and his now-wife considered aborting the baby she was carrying, and how they changed their minds. Trump said the baby they kept grew into an amazing young man.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2018 04:29 PM (ptqGC)

215 As far as Trump being a bad Christian... lots of days, so am I...

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Christ tried to model himself after Obama.

Posted by: Nanzi Pelosi, Schmukie Tumor et al. at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (+y/Ru)

216 I would not write off Cruz so fast. Yes, he lost a race. It was a a very complicated race with lots of unusual aspects. If the primary were just Cruz and Trump, Cruz would have likely won. Trump had Drudge and others pushing him. Cruz had as many enemies in the party as Trump. I don't see why his career is finished. Never say never.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (n13/j)

217 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (7UW64)

Saying you're a Christian doesn't mean you are one.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (xyCFt)

218 "Well, 20 kids that I know of..."
--Johann Sebastian Bach

Put a glove on that thing.

Posted by: eleven at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (+lOpA)

219 198 I think pro-lifers overestimate the appeal of the position. A lot of folks say they are pro-life because there's nothing to do; the Supreme Court has essentially removed it from the ordinary political process. If that changed, you'd find out where the GOP really stood. Kinda like Obamacare.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (MM3j3)

Very much this. Glass houses, stones, and all that. Sure late term abortions can be banned by these people, but early enough, I suspect they will remember their younger days, or their current college kids, and still permit it then.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (ujg0T)

220 A Catholic excommunicates him or herself . . .

I don't think that's how excommunication works. I'll believe the church is serious when Americans, including politicos, are actually excommunicated by the church. Does it actually refuse to administer the sacraments to those who disagree with church teaching? The whole self-excommunication thing is just an excuse or rationalization for institutional cowardice.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (MM3j3)

221 197 Trump maybe a bad christian, but he is a good churchman.

Many of the best leaders in Western History would fall into that classification. Otherwise we would all have been good Muslims now and there is a reason why we are not.
Posted by: William Eaton at May 23, 2018 04:24 PM (MuTTO)

Churchill described himself as a "buttress of the church" rather than a pillar - he supports it from the outside.

Posted by: josephistan at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (7HtZB)

222
214 I vaguely recall a story Trump told while campaigning, about how he came to be pro-life.

A friend of his described how he and his now-wife considered aborting the baby she was carrying, and how they changed their minds. Trump said the baby they kept grew into an amazing young man.
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Trump is a romantic and an old school male. He loves his children and would probably admit they are his greatest wealth. He likes being married. He's a good egg kind of guy. Remember those?

Posted by: Gumby at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (2LelM)

223 pro-choice

Choice of what?
Slavery?
beating a spouse?
child prostitution?

No more Orwellian word games. These people believe abortion to be a legal procedure, without let or hindrance, and without oversight.

And they actively deny the humanity and rights of those who carry their own children.

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (L3rL9)

224 Mac: "Wild Card- look up what Melania Trump did during their visit to the Vatican... Also seems to be a pretty strong believer."

Yep about the influence of Melania. I think she's a very strong woman who stands on her own. I don't doubt for a second that her religious convictions haven't had some effect on The Donald. She likely reinforced what he already believed or came to believe. And maybe that's another iteration of God working in mysterious ways.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (H8S+R)

225 Thankfully, we are not saved by the correctness of our theology, only by the doing and dying of Jesus Christ put to our account by the Father, through the working of the Holy Spirit. Anything less and I'd already be hellbound.

That said, it is very difficult to understand how a mother could possibly be pro-abortion, particularly a Christian.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:28 PM (39g3+)

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"So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." - Galatians 3:26-27 (NIV)

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:32 PM (4aVpH)

226 Another thing about Trump is that he seems to like input. However brash he is about things on a personal level, I think he will listen to anybody to get a sense of what they can tell him.

For the most part he's a win-win guy, who asks questions and asks for input and even though he there's no doubt there's an ego there, hands out plenty of praise realizing those people who have contributed to his success.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:33 PM (vDqXW)

227 The cameraman is liking big mouthed Melissa Francis as she is talking to 'the judge' about the spy in Trump's camp. She has some bluish-purple outfit on that shows her curves nicely.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 23, 2018 04:33 PM (8iiMU)

228 Actions are all that matter.

President Donald Trump's actions have been good so far.

I don't care if he uses bad words in meetings.

He has accomplished many of his promises.

I wouldn't give a rip if he banged a porn star a day, every day, except that it would hurt Melania and Barron.

President Donald Trump has accomplished many of his campaign promises, and continues to try to accomplish the others.

That is what really matters.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:33 PM (4dz1m)

229 Love ya Grump, but you don't know that.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:06 PM (4aVpH)

Why would you know that she's hell bound?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:09 PM (vw6r3)

Pretty sure they were being sarcastic?

I'm
not fond of Barbara politically cause she was married to and raised
some pretty weak politicians the GOP would've done better without.

But she didn't deserve what the left dished out.

Grump's just making fun of them I think.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:23 PM (xyCFt)

Or it could be, since we're on this subject, that there have been reports that Babs was highly influential on her husband, and then her son, to keep away from that icky question of abortion, because she was vehemently pro-abortion.

If true... and I don't know if it is, then she would kinda rank up there with almost anyone else you could think of as being responsible for the lack of federal action on this topic (including the fellas who ended up taking some of those choice federal judgeships).

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:33 PM (9chmE)

230 I tried to kill a bunny once.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (jbcJ

I tried to kill a dog. Then I ate it.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (HgMAr)

231 Move the goal posts later like the left does.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:11 PM (xyCFt)

The social conservatives have tried all manner of moderate restrictions and it's an all out war every single time.

- Ban partial birth abortions except for medical (physical) necessity
- Require abortion mills to meet the same medical standards as any other out patient surgery center
- Require an ultrasound

Maybe you've missed the past 30 years.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (J70i0)

232 216 I would not write off Cruz so fast. Yes, he lost a race. It was a a very complicated race with lots of unusual aspects. If the primary were just Cruz and Trump, Cruz would have likely won. Trump had Drudge and others pushing him. Cruz had as many enemies in the party as Trump. I don't see why his career is finished. Never say never.
Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (n13/j)

He doesn't have the common touch, and would have been so easy to demonize and mock in the general election. Out would come all the snake-handling jokes, the cartoons caricaturizing his schnoz, the lot. I suspect he would have been buried in the general by Hillary.

He might have beaten Trump one-on-one in the primaries, but he would have done his Romney impression in the general election, I suspect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (YqDXo)

233 It is a historical fact that societies with a high infant mortality rate almost without exception are stagnated and produce little if any advancements and progress. If your Einsteins, Borlaugs, Mozarts, DaVincis, Shakespeares, Fords, and Teslas are dying in the womb or shortly after birth, you don't get the kind of advances in technology, arts, literature, and society that you would with them.

And any fool can see how bad it is for a culture to deliberately murder your kids in the womb. Even if you somehow deny the humanity of these babies and have no moral concerns with abortion, you should from a purely pragmatic point of view oppose it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:35 PM (39g3+)

234

And that's the thing: it's no longer a discussion about months - the
feminist ghouls are openly saying we can kill it any time we d@mn well
please!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (W+vEI)

After watching a few of the video clips from the ABCBSNBCNN cabal defending the spying by the Obama FBI on Trump's campaign assistants, I don't have a big problem with selective post-birth abortion for some of them.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 23, 2018 04:35 PM (UsCnO)

235 Trump must support abortion at all times according to a penumbra in an amendment to a foreign constitution.

Posted by: Random Judge at May 23, 2018 04:35 PM (J70i0)

236 A Catholic excommunicates him or herself . . .

I don't think that's how excommunication works. I'll believe the
church is serious when Americans, including politicos, are actually
excommunicated by the church. Does it actually refuse to administer the
sacraments to those who disagree with church teaching? The whole
self-excommunication thing is just an excuse or rationalization for
institutional cowardice.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (MM3j3)

Perhaps. But this question as to whether someone is "in communion"with the Church is only partially a question of what is overtly expressed.

It is also about where they stand with the Church, and therefore, with God. So yeah, the person is or is not excommunicating themselves.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (9chmE)

237 >>He himself may not care either way about abortion. Or maybe he's pro life but only marginally so. Or something in between. I don't think it matters.
Trump knows that the people who elected him largely want pro life policies in place, so that's what he is trying to implement.

He's also very hands-off on the social issues.
He's not there to tell people how to live their lives or how they should think. We don't get lectures from him on racism, seism, etc.
He seems to just want to pull back all of the federal overreach related to the social issues, whether it's rolling back Roe v. Wade and letting states decide, or pulling the "dear colleague" letter Obama admin used to force pubic schools to make bathrooms transgender friendly and colleges take action to stop the so-called campus rape epidemic.

Us not knowing exactly where he stands on social issues in kind of the point: he's not pushing it on s and doing his best to make sure no one else in the federal govt. is either.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (W+vEI)

238 If I go to McDonald's and give them a few bucks, they give me a hamburger. Do I really want or need a hamburger? McDonald's doesn't give a fuck. They want my money, and will give me a hamburger for it. Do they share my philosophy, my hopes, dreams, life goals? Fuck no, they want my money. They don't even know or care what my name is. End of story.

That is how Trump works. Elect him president, and he will see about getting you, they guys who elected him, what you say you want. He's just a guy selling a fucking hamburger. Do you want it or not?

That is why they hate him. They want a daddy, a philosopher king, a new best friend. They hate that he is so...transactional. Business-like. They don't understand it. They don't trust it. It seems like a guy like that can be bought and sold. And he could be, if Democrats hadn't demonized him to such a degree that most of them will never vote for the guy. As it is, he wants to be president, and there is only one group of voters he might persuade. Us.

Never trumpers - let Trump sell you the fucking hamburger you say you want, and quite whining about it.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (fftfA)

239 He doesn't have the common touch, and would have been so easy to demonize and mock in the general election.

I agree, although he has been getting better at it. He's been so good on twitter that they shadowbanned him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (39g3+)

240 220 A Catholic excommunicates him or herself . . .

I don't think that's how excommunication works. I'll believe the church is serious when Americans, including politicos, are actually excommunicated by the church. Does it actually refuse to administer the sacraments to those who disagree with church teaching? The whole self-excommunication thing is just an excuse or rationalization for institutional cowardice.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (MM3j3)

Well, it says so in Canon Law, which is the arbiter of who gets excommunicated and how.

A person who procures or helps to procure an abortion, or who knowingly votes for a pro-abortion politician, or who otherwise supports the procurement of abortion is, by the nature of the act, excommunicated.

Part of the misunderstanding about this comes from the idea that being excommunicated somehow damns someone to hell. Not so. It is a way for a person to be seriously moved to correct their actions in light of the Gospel.

Only recently, under Pope Cranky Frankie, has the restriction about abortion been lifted, in that a person who has procured an abortion no longer needs to appeal to Rome for absolution. That can be handled in the regular confessional now. But that one sin was considered so heinous in the past that it required extraordinary means to be forgiven.

The ideal situation is when someone under interdict repents and is brought back to full communion.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (7UW64)

241 223 pro-choice

Choice of what?
Slavery?
beating a spouse?
child prostitution?

No more Orwellian word games. These people believe abortion to be a legal procedure, without let or hindrance, and without oversight.

And they actively deny the humanity and rights of those who carry their own children.
Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (L3rL9)

I always correct liberals on this point, and call them "pro-abortion." They wince at that characterization, and I'm not even a hard-core opponent of it, just find it ... distasteful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

242 216 I would not write off Cruz so fast. Yes, he lost a race. It was a a very complicated race with lots of unusual aspects. If the primary were just Cruz and Trump, Cruz would have likely won. Trump had Drudge and others pushing him. Cruz had as many enemies in the party as Trump. I don't see why his career is finished. Never say never.
Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (n13/j)

If that is true, we shall see him in 2024. I just wish he would bury the hatchet with Trump. At one time early on in the primaries, the two men even seemed to have a "bromance" going.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (ujg0T)

243 223
pro-choice

Choice of what?

Slavery?

beating a spouse?

child prostitution?

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:31 PM (L3rL9)

I always say, "pro-choice to kill a child".

These people are either truly evil, or willingly blind to logic and reason, or have a Nazi-like entitlement to act as God. Given my values, I think I would suffer severe cognitive dissonance in rationalizing killing the unborn.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (8iiMU)

244 Aborting babies.... yeah, from a practical point, who knows what great potential was literally parted out to corporations....
I think every Progressive is a Malthusian, at heart, among other things...

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (zSVEm)

245 I don't care if he uses bad words in meetings.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:33 PM (4dz1m)
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As Gutfeld pointed out, that wasn't a word that New York liberals were unaccustomed to, and didn't use for every gym that didn't have a Jacuzzi.

Posted by: Axeman at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (vDqXW)

246 Yep and Trump has forced their hands. He has the liberals and never Trumpers defending criminals that commit horrible acts of violence.

They have no choice now but to be vehemently against anything that Trump voices. They have literally backed themselves into a wall with no way out.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

It is truly amazing to listen to the Leftists double-down on defending MS-13 (a group with the motto "Kill, Rape, Control") and then, in the next breath, call the NRA terrorists and child-murderers (a group concerned with a civil right expressly recognized by the U.S. Constitution). The contrast is so stark that even people that pay no attention to politics are taking notice and don't like what they see.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (5Yee7)

247 14 The NeverTrumpers share an awful lot of political DNA with liberals, including this aspect: They no longer thing actions are important, only feeeeeelings.

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Yep and Trump has forced their hands. He has the liberals and never Trumpers defending criminals that commit horrible acts of violence.

They have no choice now but to be vehemently against anything that Trump voices. They have literally backed themselves into a wall with no way out.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

I think we are all waiting for President Trump to condemn pedophilia and pedophiles in harsh and dramatic language.

Then we will watch how the Democrats, NeverTrumpers, and the MSM defend the kiddie rapers.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (4dz1m)

248 I agree, although he has been getting better at it. He's been so good on twitter that they shadowbanned him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:36 PM (39g3+)

Yep. And where do you suppose he learned to do that?

I hope a lot of Republicans are taking notes on Trump's performance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (YqDXo)

249 Yep about the influence of Melania. I think she's a very strong woman who stands on her own.

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Too bad she can't be a feminist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (+y/Ru)

250 I always say, "pro-choice to kill a child".

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Yep, whatever you redefine it as, NEVER let leftists control the language or set the rules.

It's not abortion, it's murder.

They're not immigrants or undocumented, they're ILLEGAL immigrants.

Etc.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (72PAC)

251 He might have beaten Trump one-on-one in the primaries, but he would have done his Romney impression in the general election, I suspect.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (YqDXo)

I don't know why that is so hard for people to accept. The press hated Cruz as much as Trump. And Cruz is no Trump in savvy.

Posted by: Random Judge at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (J70i0)

252 It is a historical fact that societies with a high infant mortality rate almost without exception are stagnated and produce little if any advancements and progress. If your Einsteins, Borlaugs, Mozarts, DaVincis, Shakespeares, Fords, and Teslas are dying in the womb or shortly after birth, you don't get the kind of advances in technology, arts, literature, and society that you would with them.

And any fool can see how bad it is for a culture to deliberately murder your kids in the womb. Even if you somehow deny the humanity of these babies and have no moral concerns with abortion, you should from a purely pragmatic point of view oppose it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:35 PM

Agreed.
Of the what...34 million abortions over the last twenty years, which one would have been the researcher to cure cancer? Which one to End blindness? How about ebola? Hunger?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (neVEe)

253
Yep and Trump has forced their hands. He has the
liberals and never Trumpers defending criminals that commit horrible
acts of violence.

They have no choice now but to be vehemently
against anything that Trump voices. They have literally backed
themselves into a wall with no way out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

Actually, there is a way out. Apologize and be humble. Like Glenn Beck, who "Donned" a MAGA hat and said he will be voting for Two Scoops in 2020.
And frankly, I am thankful he did, and welcome him without a snicker or a sneering comment. With all of the voter roll corruption in so many states, every vote counts.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (UsCnO)

254
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (MM3j3)

Very much this. Glass houses, stones, and all that. Sure late term abortions can be banned by these people, but early enough, I suspect they will remember their younger days, or their current college kids, and still permit it then.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May

I think the high resolution ultrasound and premmies living at 18 wks or earlier, combined with the low cost of the morning after pill will squeeze the surgical abortion business into such a tight window that they won't be financially viable.

Posted by: Jean at May 23, 2018 04:39 PM (MS0+a)

255 216 I would not write off Cruz so fast. Yes, he
lost a race. It was a a very complicated race with lots of unusual
aspects. If the primary were just Cruz and Trump, Cruz would have likely
won. Trump had Drudge and others pushing him. Cruz had as many enemies
in the party as Trump. I don't see why his career is finished. Never say
never.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (n13/j)

He doesn't have the common touch, and would have been so easy to
demonize and mock in the general election. Out would come all the
snake-handling jokes, the cartoons caricaturizing his schnoz, the lot. I
suspect he would have been buried in the general by Hillary.

He might have beaten Trump one-on-one in the primaries, but he would
have done his Romney impression in the general election, I suspect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (YqDXo)
That is fair. Most Republicans would have lost to her I think. I don't think being conservative is enough in the present USA if you want to win the presidency. There has to be a hook and Trump found it.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:39 PM (n13/j)

256 Southern Poverty and Law Center came out with a sternly worded, jowl-flapping condemnation of Trump's statement on MS-13. They are horrified that anyone could use such racist language on the White House page! Calling these monsters and rapists and murderers ANIMALS!

What gets me is that they think this is a winning political approach. They think this will help their side.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (39g3+)

257 One great thing Rush said was " if life does not begin at conception,tell me, then, when Does it begin"???

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (zSVEm)

258
The social conservatives have tried all manner of moderate restrictions and it's an all out war every single time.

Posted by: WOPR

This, and apply it to every supposed plank of the GOPe.

At some point you have to come to the conclusion that the GOPe doesn't just merely like losing.

It's that they are in love with it. Sexually.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (LNPd9)

259 Yep and Trump has forced their hands. He has the liberals and never Trumpers defending criminals that commit horrible acts of violence.

They have no choice now but to be vehemently against anything that Trump voices. They have literally backed themselves into a wall with no way out.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

I think we are all waiting for President Trump to condemn pedophilia and pedophiles in harsh and dramatic language.

Then we will watch how the Democrats, NeverTrumpers, and the MSM defend the kiddie rapers.
Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (4dz1m)

It's marvelous they way he maneuvers them into adopting indefensible positions. Julius Caesar and Napoleon nod in respect. Now they're stuck defending MS-13 savages, with every one of their depredations now on the Dems' account. Amazing how he outmaneuvers them, seemingly every time. He's like the Muhammed Ali of politics.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (YqDXo)

260 Trump listens to his customers. And he fights for them. Maybe we're making it too complicated.

Posted by: Max Power at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (q177U)

261 Never forget ... abortion is mostly about The Left killing their own.

If they want to kill their kids ... instead of teaching them to put my kids in the camps ... I'm not gonna' lose too much sleep over it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (kxUnS)

262 The contrast is so stark that even people that pay no attention to politics are taking notice and don't like what they see.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

Irony time. They just convicted an MS-13 member of stabbing to death a 15 year old boy. Why? It was his initiation passage to the gang. Guess what his gang name is/was? Animal. Trump you magnificent bastard! you nailed it!

Posted by: Cheri at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (oiNtH)

263 Canadian Beaches Closed After Islamic Group Sabotages With Dangerous Objects For Not "Embracing Islam"

found one story over at global.ca and if you read the comments, they are all apologists

Canada will have an awakening.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (fceHP)

264 It's that they are in love with it. Sexually.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (LNPd9)

Hey man I gotta get it somehow.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (72PAC)

265 217 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:17 PM (7UW64)

Saying you're a Christian doesn't mean you are one.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:30 PM (xyCFt)

Preach it, brother.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (7UW64)

266 Anonosaurus Wrecks: "Too bad she can't be a feminist."

And thank goodness for that.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (H8S+R)

267 25 I think Trump was swayed by the disgusting late-term abortion thing.

One of the most effective responses in his 3rd debate with Hillary was re: abortion. Hillary did her best PP talking points and he was simply saying "It's wrong."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdRmnT0Weo

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 03:59 PM (W+vEI)

Good one, Lizzy. Thanks.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (0bRDi)

268 ...will squeeze the surgical abortion business into such a tight window that they won't be financially viable.

Posted by: Jean at May 23, 2018 04:39 PM (MS0+a)

It's a tax.

Posted by: Dread Justice Roberts at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (9chmE)

269 A Catholic excommunicates him or herself . . .

I don't think that's how excommunication works.

It is.

Excommunication can be personal. A Catholic religious figure does not have to "excommunicate" you. In canon law, that's called "occult" excommunication; if a priest (etc) excommunicates you, it's "public".

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm

On the contrary, excommunication is occult when the offence entailing it is known to no one or almost no one. The first is valid in the forum externum and consequently in the forum internum; the second is valid in the forum internum only. The practical difference is very important. He who has incurred occult excommunication should treat himself as excommunicated and be absolved as soon as possible

Posted by: mikeski at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (JGBbg)

270 174 But it was terrible retail politicking on Cruz's part.

Cruz has bad political instincts. He will never be President, unless it's President of the Republic of Texas.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM

What put me off Cruz and onto Trump was Cruz's (and the rest of the field's ) response after the riot at Trump's rally at UIC.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (KOF8G)

271 he is certainly the least cuck president we've had since...oh I don't know...Ike?
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 23, 2018 03:56 PM (sB8d1)
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I am the one who cucks!

Posted by: Dwight "Heisenberg" Eisenhower at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (UiRxW)

272 Yep and Trump has forced their hands. He has the
liberals and never Trumpers defending criminals that commit horrible
acts of violence.

They have no choice now but to be vehemently against anything that
Trump voices. They have literally backed themselves into a wall with no
way out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

I think we are all waiting for President Trump to condemn pedophilia and pedophiles in harsh and dramatic language.

Then we will watch how the Democrats, NeverTrumpers, and the MSM defend the kiddie rapers.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM

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I am waiting for him to come out and say that he is going to use the FBI/CIA to embed Sooper Seekret spies into each and every democrat's campaign that is running against him in 2020 just to make sure they are safe from the Russians.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (+Dllb)

273 263. Speed the Day of the Rake

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (fA1SL)

274 Pro-choice=pro killing (murder) of the innocent.

We need to take back our language!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (0OmEj)

275
One great thing Rush said was " if life does not begin at conception,tell me, then, when Does it begin"???
Posted by: kraken

When it votes for a Democrat

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (IqV8l)

276 257 One great thing Rush said was " if life does not begin at conception,tell me, then, when Does it begin"???

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (zSVEm)

Remember, the pro-aborts are the same folks who think there are 50-some-odd "genders" and that men can be women.

Life begins whenever they feel like it does. And somehow, that's hard science.

Or, sciency, or, maybe....

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (7UW64)

277 Re Melania..the left consider her inferior to Michelle O in every way.

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (a0IVu)

278 Agreed.
Of the what...34 million abortions over the last twenty years, which one would have been the researcher to cure cancer? Which one to End blindness? How about ebola? Hunger?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (neVEe)

The problem with this argument is the flip side of it: "If only Hitler (or Stalin, Mao, Charles Manson, various serial killers, any political or criminal psychopath) was aborted...."

Indeed, while disputed and perhaps debunked, the Freakonomics "It's Not Always Such A Wonderful Life" argument did make a certain dreadful sense. People who would have been terrible parents aborting away children who would otherwise have become hoodrats and all that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (ujg0T)

279 Thankfully we are not saved by the correctness of our theology, only by the doing and dying of Jesus Christ put to our account by the Father, through the working of the Holy Spirit. Anything less and I'd already be hellbound.

Nicely said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (vw6r3)

280
Speed the Day of the Rake

Is that a Sideshow Bob reference?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (IqV8l)

281 If that is true, we shall see him in 2024. I just wish he would bury the hatchet with Trump. At one time early on in the primaries, the two men even seemed to have a "bromance" going.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (
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Cruz did campaign for Trump in Iowa late in the 2016 campaign, AFTER the Billy Bush tape hit. So he stood by him better than about 1/3 of the GOP Establishment.

I still think Cruz is the ideal SCOTUS Nominee for the RBG Seat. Any good conservative candidate would be OK for the Kennedy seat, but we need a bulletproof vetted candidate for the Ruth Buzzie seat.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (4dz1m)

282 Southern Poverty and Law Center came out with a sternly worded, jowl-flapping condemnation of Trump's statement on MS-13. They are horrified that anyone could use such racist language on the White House page! Calling these monsters and rapists and murderers ANIMALS!

What gets me is that they think this is a winning political approach. They think this will help their side.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

They are, first and foremost, whores. Saying this makes them money fro their fellow travellers.

Also, the left is getting more extreme, more shrill. Ask Sen. Feinstein for confirmation.

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (L3rL9)

283 So I'll ask again: what publicly pro-choice people are being denied the sacraments on the basis of their announced views? If the answer is that they aren't, then the church doesn't much care.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (MM3j3)

284 Canada will have an awakening.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (fceHP)

Yeah, they only have like two weeks of beach season as it is.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (8iiMU)

285
I am waiting for him to come out and say that he is going to use the FBI/CIA to embed Sooper Seekret spies into each and every democrat's campaign that is running against him in 2020 just to make sure they are safe from the Russians.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

And, the Chinese

Posted by: Jean at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (MS0+a)

286
He doesn't have the common touch, and would have
been so easy to demonize and mock in the general election. Out would
come all the snake-handling jokes, the cartoons caricaturizing his
schnoz, the lot. I suspect he would have been buried in the general by
Hillary.

He might have beaten Trump one-on-one in the primaries, but he would
have done his Romney impression in the general election, I suspect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (YqDXo)

Trump was probably the only thing that could stop hellary.

Posted by: muckrack at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (RbR1e)

287 >>>Elect him president, and he will see about getting you, they guys who elected him, what you say you want. He's just a guy selling a fucking hamburger.

Absolutely agree, but I think he hates phonies and he recognizes that his base does too. So I think there is a connection there that goes beyond merely transactional.

Posted by: Max Power at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (q177U)

288 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 23, 2018 04:34 PM (J70i0)

I haven't missed a thing.

I think it's the judges and bad law that's the problem.

When the judges are replaced and some sense applied, there will be favorable decisions.

Right now the pro life side is outnumbered in very powerful ways.

Having a pro life President will go a long way towards fixing this. We really have never had one since Roe was decided.

Plus the citizens even with the propaganda are changing their perceptions.

And that's mostly because the left is so adamant that only it's opinion is valid.

We now have sonograms and that's done a lot. To actually see your child moving and reacting compels you to see their humanity. It's not longer a lump of flesh.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (xyCFt)

289 I still think Cruz is the ideal SCOTUS Nominee for
the RBG Seat. Any good conservative candidate would be OK for the
Kennedy seat, but we need a bulletproof vetted candidate for the Ruth
Buzzie seat.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (4dz1m)
That old crow is going to outlive all of us.

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (a0IVu)

290 The social conservatives have tried all manner of moderate restrictions and it's an all out war every single time.

Posted by: WOPR

This, and apply it to every supposed plank of the GOPe.

At some point you have to come to the conclusion that the GOPe doesn't just merely like losing.

It's that they are in love with it. Sexually.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:40 PM (LNPd9)

Define losing.

They win elections. Regardless of what gets implemented. They keep their seats.

So whether or not YOU are losing, does not reflect on the question of how they come down on this whole "losing" business.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (9chmE)

291 Re Melania..the left consider her inferior to Michelle O in every way.

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (a0IVu)

Sadly, Melania doesn't have Michelle's fashion sense.

Posted by: Jane D'oh--don't make me add a sarc tag! at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (ptqGC)

292 Actually, there is a way out. Apologize and be
humble. Like Glenn Beck, who "Donned" a MAGA hat and said he will be
voting for Two Scoops in 2020.
And frankly, I am thankful he did, and
welcome him without a snicker or a sneering comment. With all of the
voter roll corruption in so many states, every vote counts.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 23, 2018 04:38 PM (UsCnO)

That is fair, and I respect your graciousness. But I never got the attraction to Beck. I never really followed his career but he made some pretty well known 180s. I would never follow him as a leader, but sure, he can vote Repub.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (n13/j)

293 I still say the Communist Left loves genocide, in all its forms... and what else is abortion, collectively, but that?

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (zSVEm)

294 That post is probably quite triggering to the NeverTrump brigade there at the Federalist.

Posted by: buzzion at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (lKs2v)

295 I can't find the comment or even the thread I'm
thinking of. It may have back when Trump addressed the Pro-Life March
last year. How does one search the comments or even dredge up old
threads?

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at May 23, 2018 04:13 PM (I7oij)

Just stare at your screen and ask me nicely, the threads will begin to appear in a few minutes.
Just another service from your friendly Federal Government!

Posted by: Bob in the NSA at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (UsCnO)

296 277 Re Melania..the left consider her inferior to Michelle O in every way.

Posted by: IC at May 23, 2018 04:43 PM (a0IVu)

Who you gonna believe, Shaved Guevara or your lyin' eyes?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (7UW64)

297 As far as Trump being a bad Christian... lots of days, so am I...
Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (zSVEm)

In all of history, I think there has been only one person who isn't.

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (BZA5F)

298 Anti-American NY Jets Chairman and CEO Christopher Johnson Said He's Willing to Pay the Fines of NFL Players Who Disrespect the Flag and National Anthem

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Is the NFL turning into professional wrestling with scripted villains and shit?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (+y/Ru)

299 Ace, yup. Never Trumpers and lefties are super-good at literally knowing what is in a person's heart. And it's a special gift that they think they for sure have.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at May 23, 2018 04:46 PM (fq72/)

300 Cutting taxpayer funding to planned parenthood is not who "true conservatives" are.
We will be having a meet and greet on the fetus deck at 5:00 to discuss how pro choice Trump is.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 23, 2018 04:46 PM (pw+jk)

301 Except that there's nothing occult or secret about our many Catholic public officials who support abortion rights.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:46 PM (MM3j3)

302 Right now the pro life side is outnumbered in very powerful ways.

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Heh...

Posted by: God at May 23, 2018 04:46 PM (4aVpH)

303 Sadly, Melania doesn't have Michelle's fashion sense.

Posted by: Jane D'oh--don't make me add a sarc tag! at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (ptqGC)

LOL

Posted by: DR.WTF? at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (T71PA)

304 I am a slave to mammon
I am a fallen angel
I believe Jesus is my savior
Accepting him was as deep for me as witnessing the birth of my children
With head bowed I await judgement

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth Transcending at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (FTPVM)

305 I think the high resolution ultrasound and premmies living at 18 wks or earlier, combined with the low cost of the morning after pill will squeeze the surgical abortion business into such a tight window that they won't be financially viable.
Posted by: Jean at May 23, 2018 04:39 PM (MS0+a)

The problem with the RU-486 "morning after pill" besides it being an abortifacient, is that the people likely to take it in a timely fashion already practice birth control in a responsible fashion anyway. Most other women get to the point where they are a month late, and I don't mean the bills.

And then there are the women who get "accidentally" pregnant because in their demented heads they think that will get a guy to stay instead of send him running.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (ujg0T)

306 So whether or not YOU are losing, does not reflect on the question of how they come down on this whole "losing" business.
Posted by: BurtTC

"We will repeal Obamacare~!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (LNPd9)

307 I am waiting for him to come out and say that he is going to use the FBI/CIA to embed Sooper Seekret spies into each and every democrat's campaign that is running against him in 2020 just to make sure they are safe from the Russians.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (+

YES!!!!!!!

He can throw Brennan's words right back at them!

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (4dz1m)

308 283 So I'll ask again: what publicly pro-choice people are being denied the sacraments on the basis of their announced views? If the answer is that they aren't, then the church doesn't much care.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:44 PM (MM3j3)

Keep your eyes open.

The up and coming Bishop of San Francisco is a Dominican with a backbone, unlike the flaky fruity Bishops that the west coast has suffered through in the wake of JPII's appointments.

I can't wait until Nazi Pelousy comes to receive. I suspect her experience may change over time.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (7UW64)

309 Dean Wormer: "Never trumpers - let Trump sell you the fucking hamburger you say you want, and quite whining about it."

Key words: "you say you want"

And that, we're discovering, is the problem. They don't actually want it. They like the debate, the argument, the selling point; they don't like results. They're political poseurs. They want everyone hearing them order the hamburger; they actually want the veggie burger.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (H8S+R)

310 Too be fair, Melania does not have the penis I do. Nor does she need to tuck it and then have it sneak a peek out of a drapery dress I am wearing.

Posted by: Michaele Obama at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (pw+jk)

311 270 174 But it was terrible retail politicking on Cruz's part.

Cruz has bad political instincts. He will never be President, unless it's President of the Republic of Texas.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:20 PM

What put me off Cruz and onto Trump was Cruz's (and the rest of the field's ) response after the riot at Trump's rally at UIC.
Posted by: Chuck C at May 23, 2018 04:41 PM (KOF8G)

There's a prime example of his bad political instincts. Even if Cruz thought that, if he had better political instincts, he would have just kept his mouth shut. He didn't have to buy chips in that game. If he were a good politician, he'd have come out in support of Trump on a free speech basis.

"Mr. Trump and I have our differences, but those dwindle into insignificance in light of this attack on free speech and our American democratic political process. I call on ALL Americans to condemn this thuggish attack on our democracy."

There. Was that so hard? He'd have won (or at least kept) conservative support, and favorably impressed a lot of independents.

Instead, he went for the Reds' line on this. Yow.

Cruz v. Hillary would have been the "Tone-Deaf Super Bowl."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (YqDXo)

312 Add to that every fucking government program since 1913.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:48 PM (LNPd9)

313 I am waiting for him to come out and say that he is
going to use the FBI/CIA to embed Sooper Seekret spies into each and
every democrat's campaign that is running against him in 2020 just to
make sure they are safe from the Russians.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (+Dllb)

In their homes too , just to be safe.

Posted by: muckrack at May 23, 2018 04:48 PM (RbR1e)

314 So whether or not YOU are losing, does not reflect on the question of how they come down on this whole "losing" business.

Posted by: BurtTC

"We will repeal Obamacare~!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (LNPd9)

We let them down. They asked us to give them 60, and we couldn't do it.

Shame on us.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:49 PM (9chmE)

315 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (+y/Ru)

316 Instead of abortion, practice avoidance.

Ladies, if you don't want the gut, take it in the butt.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (Yu4ah)

317 308. True. Also, every sacrament she takes while in a state of self-willed excommunication is in fact a damnation.

* SSPX INTENSIFIES *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (fA1SL)

318 I listened to a podcast Milo Yiannopolus did with Roger Stone a couple months back and they were talking about Trump and his becoming Pro-Life.

They were discussing Trump's story about how he had friends who there were concerns about the pregnancy and there was advice to get an abortion but they didn't, and they had the baby and that kid is now a "rock star" I believe is how Trump put it in the debate. And that was what had him shift on abortion.

Stone believes that Trump's "Friends" are in truth Donald and Melania and Barron was the baby. If that is true it would certainly be more evidence that Trump actually did have a conversion on the issue.

Posted by: buzzion at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (lKs2v)

319 315 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (+y/Ru)

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Is this a joke?

Posted by: God at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (4aVpH)

320
That is fair, and I respect your graciousness.
But I never got the attraction to Beck. I never really followed his
career but he made some pretty well known 180s. I would never follow him
as a leader, but sure, he can vote Repub.

Posted by: Quint at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (n13/j)

Precisely.

I don't plan to invite Beck to dinner, but I will gladly take his Trump vote. Also importantly, this provides a visual means for other #NeverTrumpers to move forward without shaming them about their past poor decision.
"If Glenn Beck can change his mind and support President Trump, so can you......... for the good of the country if nothing else."

Or some sniveling nonsense like this. Honestly, it is more of a truce than a reunification.

It is about the future, not the past, except of course for Government-ordered spying of the other party's presidential candidate and campaign members.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (UsCnO)

321 Oops.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (4aVpH)

322 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wreck

WTF? Her ratings were tanking. So why make a movie?

Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (L3rL9)

323 301 Except that there's nothing occult or secret about our many Catholic public officials who support abortion rights.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 23, 2018 04:46 PM (MM3j3)

A public excommunication takes several steps to accomplish. Read how Paul suggests one works to help a manifest sinner. The methods are similar to a public excommunication.

The fact that many of the west coast Bishops have had the spines of jelly fish is the reason the process hasn't really been put to use, but I can assure you that these things have happened in the Mid West. Specifically, read about the living hell the "catholic" lefties have unleashed on Bishop Morlino in Madison, WI. He has even gone so far as to walk into a nominally catholic (more new-agey coven) convent and remove the Blessed Sacrament along with the tabernacle, and forbid Holy Mass in that location.

It happens. It may happen more often as time goes on. Depends somewhat on Cranky Frankie, too.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (7UW64)

324 Good of the country? Pfffft.

Posted by: Tony Kennedy, Supreme Horse's Ass at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (XcgmW)

325 "Anti-American NY Jets Chairman and CEO Christopher Johnson Said He's Willing to Pay the Fines of NFL Players Who Disrespect the Flag and National Anthem"

I guess he's also willing to pay for all the empty seats, too. Godspeed, Mr. Johnson. You can remain one of the failing businesses in a prospering economy.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (H8S+R)

326 The Never Trumpers apparently would rather have Hillary. I have a perfect grasp of how stupid that kind of thinking is. Perfect grasp.

Posted by: ro-man at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (RuIsu)

327 319
315 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (+y/Ru)

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Is this a joke?

Posted by: God at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (4aVpH)

It is Hollywood.

So yes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (UsCnO)

328 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (+y/Ru)

Hmmm, So Charlize is doing pron now?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (9chmE)

329 313 - has anyone asked Brennan if they also infiltrated FAB's campaign you know, to protect her from evil Russians? If not, why not?

Posted by: Cheri at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (oiNtH)

330 322 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wreck

WTF? Her ratings were tanking. So why make a movie?
Posted by: the tenor section at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (L3rL9)

Following the Jim Carrey career track....

Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (zSVEm)

331 And that, we're discovering, is the problem. They don't actually want it. They like the debate, the argument, the selling point; they don't like results.

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Turns out a lot of people we thought were on our side were full of piss, vinegar and Obama's diarrhea.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+dsLj)

332 As far as Trump being a bad Christian... lots of days, so am I...
Posted by: kraken at May 23, 2018 04:25 PM (zSVEm)

In all of history, I think there has been only one person who isn't.
Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2018 04:45 PM (BZA5F)

And the High Holy Priests of the Time said he had to go. The Imperial Government of the time went along with them. All because he was upsetting the Status Quo.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (4dz1m)

333 Charlize should shut up, get naked and look good.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 23, 2018 04:53 PM (pw+jk)

334 309
Dean Wormer: "Never trumpers - let Trump sell you the fucking hamburger you say you want, and quite whining about it."

Key words: "you say you want"

And that, we're discovering, is the problem. They don't actually
want it. They like the debate, the argument, the selling point; they
don't like results. They're political poseurs. They want everyone
hearing them order the hamburger; they actually want the veggie burger.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (H8S+R)

The intense attempts to sabotage Trump shows that they always been the enemy.

Posted by: muckrack at May 23, 2018 04:53 PM (RbR1e)

335 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (+Dllb)

Better to put some spies in the FakeNewsMedia.

That's where all the colluding and treason is coming from.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:53 PM (xyCFt)

336 Turns out a lot of people we thought were on our side were full of piss, vinegar and Obama's diarrhea.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+dsLj)

Substitute "semen" for "diarrhea".

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:54 PM (ujg0T)

337 Charlize should shut up, get naked and look good.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 23, 2018 04:53 PM (pw+jk)

So should MeAgain. In fact, together at the same time wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:54 PM (9chmE)

338 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (+y/Ru)

This just in: Hollywood announces that it will produce a Stormy Daniels biopic starring Ruth Baeder-Meinhof.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:54 PM (YqDXo)

339 313
I am waiting for him to come out and say that he is

going to use the FBI/CIA to embed Sooper Seekret spies into each and

every democrat's campaign that is running against him in 2020 just to

make sure they are safe from the Russians.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 23, 2018 04:42 PM (+Dllb)

In their homes too , just to be safe.

Posted by: muckrack at May 23, 2018 04:48 PM (RbR1e)

Actually, the only effective answer is to implant tracking microchips in every Republican candidate and staffer. Only then will America be safe.

Posted by: The Democrat National Committee at May 23, 2018 04:55 PM (UsCnO)

340 325 "Anti-American NY Jets Chairman and CEO Christopher Johnson Said He's Willing to Pay the Fines of NFL Players Who Disrespect the Flag and National Anthem"

I guess he's also willing to pay for all the empty seats, too. Godspeed, Mr. Johnson. You can remain one of the failing businesses in a prospering economy.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (H8S+R)

Say, what city lost or is losing a football team and wants one? St. Louis? Oakland? (Assuming new host city is smart enough not to deal with an owner like that).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 23, 2018 04:56 PM (ujg0T)

341 >>
WTF? Her ratings were tanking. So why make a movie?

It's to bash Fox, and ensure that history remembers the #MeToo victims and abusers at Fox.
Not Charlie Rose, Chris Matthews, matt Lauer - no, Ailes and whatshisname.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2018 04:56 PM (W+vEI)

342 338.

Jennifer Lopez is Sonia Sotomayor in 'Wise Latina'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 23, 2018 04:57 PM (fA1SL)

343 This just in: Hollywood announces that it will produce a Stormy Daniels biopic starring Ruth Baeder-Meinhof.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:54 PM (YqDXo)

West Hollywood gave her the key to the city for her "Resistance" to Trump.

I thought she had prominence is because she claims she didn't resist Trump and spread her legs for him.

Posted by: buzzion at May 23, 2018 04:57 PM (lKs2v)

344 Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wreck

Hollywood just doesn't get it, does it?

They are so blinded by their hate.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:58 PM (xyCFt)

345 Must flee TV:

Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 04:50 PM (+y/Ru)

This just in: Hollywood announces that it will produce a Stormy Daniels biopic starring Ruth Baeder-Meinhof.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:54 PM (YqDXo)

I can't wait for the film they do about Matt Lauer and NBC. To be directed by Bryan Singer, starring Kevin Spacey.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 23, 2018 04:58 PM (9chmE)

346 This just in: Hollywood announces that it will produce a Stormy Daniels biopic starring Ruth Baeder-Meinhof.

Dark Crystal II

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:58 PM (QQ+il)

347 The Never Trumpers apparently would rather have Hillary. I have a perfect grasp of how stupid that kind of thinking is. Perfect grasp.
Posted by: ro-man at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (

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President Hillary Clinton would be great for the PROFESSIONAL REPUBLICAN Business.

Donations would ROLL IN!!!

Books would Fly Off the Shelves!!!

The US Economy would tank, but the Professional Republicans and their Democrat and COC buddies would be making money hand over fist!

Who cares if the economy tanks? They would be doing good!

Who cares if she blunders us into another war? Maybe with Russia? Maybe Egypt?

GOOD TIMES!!!

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 04:58 PM (4dz1m)

348 Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wreck

Hollywood just doesn't get it, does it?

They are so blinded by their hate.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 04:58 PM (xyCFt)

and yet, and yet. I would disappoint both of them for as long as there was breath in my body.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

349 Also possibly the most pro-Israeli president ever.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse It's not rape if I'm wearing the dress Tyson at May 23, 2018 05:00 PM (1L9V9)

350 'Sharyl Attkisson was on with Seb Gorka sitting in foe Prager and her count is 7 Trump people who were spyed on that we know so far.'

Read her eight-point summary article at The Hill.

Posted by: anon2 at May 23, 2018 05:00 PM (v6UKb)

351 Too bad Margaret Hamilton isn't still alive to play RBG when her biopic is done.

Oh you know they will.

Are we sure Disney didn't do an animatronic of her?

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 05:00 PM (xyCFt)

352 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 23, 2018 04:51 PM (7UW64)

Why was he removing the Blessed Sacrament and Tabernacle? Did it have to do with their view on abortion? There are nuns who support abortion?!. Now, I've known a number of nuns-some I've even gone to for Spiritual Direction with a few of them but they may be interested in ecumenism and being earth friendly, but I've never met any nuns who endorsed abortion at all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2018 05:01 PM (vw6r3)

353 No possiblity about it. Trump has changed the game in the ME.

Bibi's shitting bricks with joy.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 05:01 PM (xyCFt)

354 Curmudgeon: "Say, what city lost or is losing a football team and wants one? St. Louis? Oakland? (Assuming new host city is smart enough not to deal with an owner like that)."

Yeah, it's probably not a buyer's market right now. Let the anti-Americanism percolate a bit longer and keep driving NFL franchise values down a season or more (depending on trendlines). Why bail out an ass when you can't take it to the woodshed while you're at it?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 05:03 PM (H8S+R)

355 Nudity

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 05:03 PM (QQ+il)

356 NOOD

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2018 05:03 PM (5Yee7)

357 Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

Yeah. So?

What's that got to do with it?

There was a guy recently arrested for trying to screw an exhaust pipe.

That's Guys. When the little head is in charge . . .

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 05:04 PM (xyCFt)

358 Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

I'd be careful if I were you. They both look like biters.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2018 05:04 PM (xyCFt)

359 This reminds me of something I meant to do last week. Remind George W. Bush that he was a shitty president.

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at May 23, 2018 05:04 PM (rXZX0)

360 Charlize Theron Will Play Megyn Kelly in a New Film About Roger Ailes

Straight to ~~DVD~~ Dumpster.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 23, 2018 05:05 PM (H8S+R)

361 I like biters.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 23, 2018 05:05 PM (QQ+il)

362 Yeah, maybe, but when it comes to being pro-bathhouse life- well, I take a back bench to no man!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 23, 2018 05:05 PM (nBBdT)

363 So should MeAgain. In fact, together at the same time wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Homosexuality is wrong... Unless both chicks are hot.

Posted by: Mr. Drucker at May 23, 2018 05:06 PM (1fEzg)

364 This just in: Hollywood announces that it will produce a Stormy Daniels biopic starring Ruth Baeder-Meinhof.

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Going Down For Justice

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 23, 2018 05:06 PM (+y/Ru)

365 >>>Never trumpers - let Trump sell you the fucking hamburger you say you want, and quite whining about it.<<<
The neo-cucks don't want hamburgers. They want platitudes and a party platform. Those are the deliverables of a philosopher-king, not filthy actions.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2018 05:06 PM (J7XgW)

366 Hmmm...ACTA NON VERBA...Actions Not Words

Holy shitsnacks!

Trump is the mercenary dude from "Battlefield: Bad Company"!

This is yuge!

Posted by: gebrauchshund at May 23, 2018 05:06 PM (fYnUU)

367 Also, you are not pro life if you get a chance to defund them and dont.
I'm talking to you W.

Posted by: Mr. Drucker at May 23, 2018 05:07 PM (1fEzg)

368 311

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 23, 2018 04:47 PM (

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So True. We need to get him out of the political arena, and into SCOTUS, where Cruz can be tone deaf as long as he supports the Constitution.

I was a big supporter, but I will not support him for President next time.

Posted by: rd at May 23, 2018 05:08 PM (4dz1m)

369 342 Diane Keaton as Killary Clinton in Wes Craven's "Hyenamonculus."

Posted by: Dwight at May 23, 2018 05:08 PM (UiRxW)

370 10 I can't read minds. I CAN read actions.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at May 23, 2018 03:57 PM (RD7QR)

Yep.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2018 05:10 PM (0bRDi)

371 I think it's a given people tend to get more conservative as they age. From far, far left to far left and from left to center, etc. I think that's how Trump is moving towards (or has). Reagan had to battle a D congress and mostly a D senate and was just coming in following those wild and whacky 70s, when most of the baby boom generation was at it's zenith political wise.

The younger Bush won by an ass hair in 2000 and again in 2004 (May I be the first to say "Good night Mr. President" Bob Schrum to John Kerry on election eve.) So in terms of implementing policies by the stroke of the pen and phone, Reagan and Bush did what they could (and could have done more) but I think there's really a groundswell of people - along with a rapidly aging boomer generation - that is plainly fed up with the D and their isms and phobias and generally class warfare.
The NeverTrumpers want purity and results - even more so than many dems - IMHO. Never mind that if the dems take control they could give a shit about who wants what within their caucus, because the ones in control are going to do what they want. And the ones in control want far left.
The top 3 leaders in the dem party combined are 232 years old. (Nancy 78, Hoyer 78, Bernie 76 Hell, DiFi is almost 85 and Chuck Schumer is a pup at freakin 67) These folks are going to run as far left as they need to, to get elected. They don't have many more races in them, they're safe so what do they care about their caucus. They are only interested in power at this point and they only know power thru politics. Trump has had power outside of politics. The above folks basically went straight into politics and that's the only power they know. My point is: Trump has had power before (albeit slightly different - or in a different position) so he's comfortable wielding the political power he has now. And when he leaves, he'll continue to have power - obviously not on the same level - whereas this is the zenith of power for these folks because afterwards, they will have absolutely no power to make things happen. Because of his money, Trump will be able to make things happen and I believe that's where his heart lies: Making deals.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 23, 2018 05:31 PM (bB4HN)

372 246 It is truly amazing to listen to the Leftists double-down on defending MS-13 (a group with the motto "Kill, Rape, Control") and then, in the next breath, call the NRA terrorists and child-murderers (a group concerned with a civil right expressly recognized by the U.S. Constitution). The contrast is so stark that even people that pay no attention to politics are taking notice and don't like what they see.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 23, 2018 04:37 PM (5Yee7)

Much the same with the Left regarding Israel and their neighbors.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 23, 2018 07:25 PM (di1hb)

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