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Jake Tapper: John McCain's Disinvitation of Trump to His Funeral "Is a Real Moment for the Country"
#JakesHarem, I'm sure, finds this just more proof that Jake Tapper is Thunderlips, The Ultimate Male.
The rest of us find him to be an unhinged lightweight hack. Let me go on record: I think it's fine that John McCain doesn't want Trump at his funeral. I think it's fine to tell the White House that. I think it's understandable, given Trump's crack about McCain, McCain's devotion to the Establishment and liberal Republican wing, and McCain's near-Jake-Tapper-levels of self-regard and prickliness. But John McCain has always been prickly and thin-skinned. Disinviting Trump is not a breach on John McCain's part -- he owed Trump nothing at all, not even courtesy. But neither is it a "real moment for the country." It's just a guy with a lot of ego and a lot of anger doing something you'd expect him to do. Again: There's nothing wrong with what McCain's choice to disinvite Trump. Even someone who wasn't egotistical and angry would probably do the same. But is it in any way unexpected? Is this man bites dog or dog bites man? Surely the latter. The surprising thing would be for McCain to rise above it. But he's never been known for that. (Again -- McCain is not obliged to rise above anything. Just saying, him rising above it would be newsworthy.) There is no "real moment" here, nor is there any surprise in the infamously thin-skinned, petty, angry and vindictive Jake Tapper thinking John McCain is just swell for sending out Funeral Disinvitation DM.CNN's Jake Tapper is weighing in on a New York Times report that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) doesn't want President Trump at his funeral, calling it a "real moment for the country." "This is a real moment for the country where an American hero, somebody who is beloved in many, many ways, is saying, 'I don't want this guy at my funeral,'" Tapper said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."Jake Tapper loves the vets, which he loves to tell you whenever there's a CNN scandal he's trying to deflect from.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 07, 2018 02:44 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (yTnCT)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (ANC8E)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: Carpe Manana at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (PbH71)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (yTnCT)
Will Miss Lindsey receive the folded flag?
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (ANC8E)
Only if it's a rainbow flag.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 02:46 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: Mernaise at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (Cx+0W)
The aircraft makers who got paid to replace the planes he couldn't keep in the air?
The Vietnamese government?
Democrats who love a loyal mole?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (cApiC)
Also, I would question the 'beloved in many, many ways'. Really, can we fill up a postage stamp with the ways?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (hXeKX)
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (MIKMs)
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To which country is he referring? Syria?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (xBSm0)
Now what's the betting line that Tapper was conflating McCain with Hitler in 2008?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (oVJmc)
Well, maybe no he shouldn't. But . . .
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (953wK)
Posted by: nip at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (ECLaL)
We concrete with what our #HarumMaster said!
Posted by: Hellfire's Coming to Breakfast at Tiffany's, by Jake Tappakeggaday at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (Tdl6i)
He's just a fucking hack of a politician whose death isn't going to make a tinker's damn in the scheme of things, and I have no respect for him to show.
Go gently into the good night, John.
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (vkS2Z)
Imma stop you right there.
A "hero?" For doing what, exactly?
And "beloved?" By whom?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (eytER)
Obama is a much better fit.
Posted by: nip at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (ECLaL)
In the casket?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 02:47 PM (oYp/M)
McCain always felt like a clay pigeon the left was throwing up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: gp at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (mk9aG)
They're trying to get Trump to say something dumb and scream about it for a few weeks. All the other news they ought to be covering is really bad for the narrative, so they want to avoid it at all costs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Gumby at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: steevy at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: torabora at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (Y274z)
Trump would grant McStain a flyover ...
... but we cannot sustain any unwarranted losses of aircraft
Posted by: Hellfire's Coming to Breakfast at Tiffany's, by Jake Tappakeggaday at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (roQNm)
McCain is Hillary Clinton?!?
It all makes sense now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: steevy at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (LiyEm)
Which is fine if this is how he wants to spend his last days. To each his own.
HOWEVER, I am appalled at the way his loved ones/closest aide are amping up what he's saying, with great assistance from the MSM.
This is unseemly, and frankly, SAD.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (953wK)
Posted by: Archer at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Gumby at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (2LelM)
And he wants Obama to speak at his funeral??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: John M at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (XkxK0)
Posted by: wth at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (FZYNt)<<<
And zap him with those sticks, like Klingons do.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (ANC8E)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (FZYNt)
"This is a real moment for the country where an American hero, somebody who is beloved in many, many ways, is saying, 'I don't want this guy at my funeral,'" Tapper said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
Yeah acting like a 3rd grader is a real moment for the country.
Posted by: Flawess Male Logic at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (roQNm)
I've never even thought about having a list of people I wanted to disinvite from my funeral.
It's so childish and I love how the media is pretending like this is a normal, adult thing to do. It's like something a child would say.
If I were Trump, I'd announce a reopening of the Keating 5 investigation.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (lKmt3)
And while we're at it, what's the betting line Reds will be saying the same thing about Bush 41, Bush 43, and Trump 45, when their times come? All the while they liken the Republican candidate/ President of the day to Hitler.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: blaster at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (Z5y53)
He can't possibly believe that. And what follows next? Because McCain has disinvited Trump, then x. Pfft.
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (0bRDi)
I have completely lost my respect for cancer.
Posted by: nip at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (ECLaL)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (r9UYA)
1) Colonel Tomb
2) John McCain
3) that kid with a paper airplane
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: whitecollar redneck at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (685C4)
Posted by: mrp at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (HgMAr)
CNN gets it wrong again. Amazing.
Posted by: Jefferson Beauregard O'Snoozles at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (rBnYq)
But if I were Trump I'd be tweeting Chick Tracts at McCain.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: red speck at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (6Krd7)
Posted by: gp at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018
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Ditto, mine just threw up a hairball.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (Tdl6i)
Posted by: trev006 at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (UCfYv)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (XkxK0)
They want another scandal, and another, and another...
The MSM are using McCain to hit Trump, and McCain is no doubt using the MSM to get his last shots in before he goes.
Win-win.
Trump and his admin just need to not play that game.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 07, 2018 02:48 PM (AM1GF)
For some values of normal.
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (0bRDi)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (pw+jk)
Hopefully it wont be a big splashy political funeral - think Wellstone Memorial - with a lot of uniparty messaging. Sad. When the memorial of your life is just a political commercial it just underscores all the wrong things doesn't it?
I also think its pretty weird how much "pre event" publicity he's getting for a funeral. Just isn't done much is it . . .
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (kz4or)
Posted by: gp at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (mk9aG)
I've never regretted voting for Palin, even after the witch-hunt drove her a bit batty.
McCain, on the other hand, gets nothing from me. He's proven himself to be an asshole of national proportions, and that especially includes using his POW status as a political weapon against opponents.
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (953wK)
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Not beloved. In any way, shape, or form. By anyone.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (oVJmc)
Good idea.
Waiting' till the line dies down.
Might want to wear some mud boots though.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (EyPfd)
If I was Trump I'd pay skywriters to write MAGA over McCain's funeral
Posted by: Flawess Male Logic at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (10vO4)
John McCain will be dead very soon and the #resistance will have lost one of its most valuable members.
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (UnA8+)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (LNPd9)
And I would ask them what did John McCain have to do with this?
Posted by: Blanco at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (QGdDN)
And didn't even acknowledge Chris Kyle
s death
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (W+vEI)
See, I really doubt Trump would have attended the funeral, all else being equal. But now McCain pretends to have control over whether Trump shows or not.
Kind of like not having a retirement party because deep down you know no one would show anyway, so try to save face and pretend you didn't want to have one.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (eytER)
Posted by: steevy at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (LiyEm)
"Senator McCain has assumed that I would want to attend his funeral."
And that's all.
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (953wK)
wwwwwwwell, yoooooou seeeee...
Oh, thought you asked "how" did he say this.
My bet is that he hasn't "said" shiite for some time.
Bless his heart.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (7LY+6)
somebody should tell him you aren't supposed to make people look forward to you expiring
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Trump at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (0OmEj)
I'd advise PDT to send Africanized Killer Bees.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (UnA8+)
Same thing as "bravely speaking truth to power"
or "a defining moment in the Age of Trump"
or "raising awareness of fascism in America"
or a typical David Hogg outburst.
Posted by: gp at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (mk9aG)
Lindsey Graham.
No one to move his lips or give him a voice when Maverick passes.
Posted by: Blanco at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (QGdDN)
Posted by: Han Yolo at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (k5hWy)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (IdMiN)
"Senator McCain has assumed that I would want to attend his funeral."
And that's all.
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (953wK)
"...or that I would send anyone at all. Sad"
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (G0vdT)
DJT
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018
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Leave my plane out of this.
Posted by: Sky King at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (Tdl6i)
Unbelievable as the depths of delusion look today, you just know there is further to some of these libtards to travel.
Posted by: Jefferson Beauregard O'Snoozles at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (rBnYq)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 07, 2018 02:52 PM (0OmEj)
I'd advise PDT to send Africanized Killer Bees.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (UnA8+)
Send Gen. Mattis.
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (953wK)
And the media pretends this personal vendetta that resembles a bratty teenage girl is what statesmanship looks like.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (lKmt3)
Thank you for your service John. Now, please, go quietly into that good night.
Posted by: 99Problems at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (zWaPh)
Posted by: Warai-otoko, who remembers 2008 at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (AURKQ)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 02:56 PM (0bRDi)
On the other hand, if the gravestone maker could be induced to put "Build the dang wall" on his gravestone, I'd be OK with that.
Posted by: West at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (7Fa8Y)
Posted by: Trump at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (3c1uO)
Posted by: Furious George at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (9vQJW)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (rBnYq)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: pep at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (wW03z)
Trump should chortle and say he never had plans to attend.
Posted by: standfast24 at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (+9QGm)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (F8cRI)
Same thing as "bravely speaking truth to power"
or "a defining moment in the Age of Trump"
or "raising awareness of fascism in America"
or a typical David Hogg outburst.
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Bending the Arc of History -- for the win!!
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 02:57 PM (hhfF0)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (pw+jk)
Also Fall of Saigon, sacking of Rome, and Mass Extinction of the Dinosaurs.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: blaster at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (Z5y53)
DJT
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (pw+jk)
Or just hire those Russian hookers to do it for you.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (AURKQ)
Posted by: dananjcon at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (xqfqx)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (XkxK0)
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (0bRDi)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 02:59 PM (IdMiN)
And he's despised in just as many. And yet Tapper picks one alternative over another and ignores that which he doesn't like. Now that's reportin'. Nope, no bias at all here. Straight shootin' truth like heroin in the vein of news.
We're so fortunate to have the likes of those two serving as our compass.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 07, 2018 02:59 PM (H8S+R)
1) Colonel Tomb
2) John McCain
3) that kid with a paper airplane
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 02:51 PM (39g3+)
Now imagine if Jane Fonda (/spit) sitting on the AA gun had accidentally shot down McCain.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 02:59 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018 02:59 PM (UnA8+)
The left doesn't get that to our ex narcissist-in chief Obama, that would indeed be a huge deal. To Trump, not so much.
I think Obama is going to say yes to speaking at McCain's funeral, only to have a huge pulpit to throw shade at Trump, Marc Anthony style. The number of I's littering a supposed memorial speech for another person will be glorious to behold. I doubt Meggy Mac will be pleased at Obama grandstanding on her dad's "legacy", but the MSM will lap it up.
Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2018 02:59 PM (hvf9s)
I'd advise PDT to send Africanized Killer Bees.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 07, 2018 02:55 PM (UnA8+)
Send Gen. Mattis.
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To make sure he is dead?
Wow. That's an image. I can actually see him prying open the lid and hammering in a stake.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 02:59 PM (GuIjm)
Or just hire those Russian hookers to do it for you.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (AURKQ)
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Damn did I miss a punchline or what?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (pw+jk)
I hear he made ol' Rosie fat too.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (oYp/M)
Also known as "3 things that Vic's outlived"
Heh.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: A New Hope at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (+Ty8m)
The biggest reason for the decline of religion is religion. When you lose sight of having a relationship with God and focus on traditions etc.It turns more people off to it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (3c1uO)
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (+Ty8m)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (0OmEj)
Scalia's, Nancy Reagan's, or Billy Graham's funerals? (I mean, other
than 'a relief' since anytime we avoid watching him take selfies at
someone respectable's funeral is a good thing.)
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Remember a sitting President would only attend an equal's funeral.
PDJT can send his cabinet people, McConnell could go with his committee chairs, Ryan could go with his committee chairs, RNC could send a few, and Palin should attend (if she would be invited).
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Carpe Manana at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (PbH71)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 03:00 PM (5gaNQ)
Hey, if he wants a funeral circus invite a POTUS. Personally for the
sake of family, I'd ask Potus to stay away and make it family only.
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Which one of McCain's families? The poor ones he abandoned or the new ones he upgraded to after becoming famous?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (UBzPO)
Why congress doesn't shove these people out of office is beyond me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (39g3+)
McCain is "much beloved" by ignorant, and/or stupid people. He is a dumb, psycho, destructive and irresponsbile figure, and has been for many years.
Posted by: rhomboid as willow at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (QDnY+)
"Cuck" really is the right term for these Republicans.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (lKmt3)
Kill him with kindness.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: dananjcon at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (xqfqx)
Posted by: T at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (fdPD9)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (H8S+R)
Realistically, when you're in charge, having to attend these various symbolic ceremonial occasions is a pain in the ass.
I bet Trump heaved a huge sigh of relief when he was let off the hook for both Prince Retard's wedding AND McCain's funeral.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (oYp/M)
"I wish Mr. McCain well on his journey."
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (0bRDi)
I would only add
"I wish Mr. McCain well on his journey. Hope he doesn't get shot down and captured."
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (G0vdT)
He's gone on record saying he hated Palin as a VP choice. I'm 100% sure he wanted Lieberman which would have made him lose by even more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (/qEW2)
Why are you still "serving" in the Senate?
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (953wK)
Posted by: _Jaybee_ at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (O3uss)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (O98s2)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:54 PM (FZYNt)
heh
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (0bRDi)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (pw+jk)
http://therightscoop.com/nra-just-announced-their-new-president-and-they-are-very-excited-about-it/
Posted by: Under Fire at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (r9UYA)
It will be a huge moment for the country.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (kUmUV)
Presidents don't go to all the senators funerals anyway. They don't even send the VP most of the time. Why would McCain think he is special?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (r+sAi)
Here...hold my wig
Posted by: Maxine Waters. Brain Chemist. Fodi Fi at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (UfMVm)
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (RD7QR)
"My friends we have nothing to fear from an Obama funeral speech!"
--John muh cane
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (G0vdT)
I'm almost glad he humiliated her by saying he wished he had picked someone different.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (lKmt3)
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The successful ones can give them a run for their money.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:04 PM (PMzMr)
Tough crowd, tough crowd.
Posted by: President Donald Trump at May 07, 2018 03:04 PM (k5hWy)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 07, 2018 03:04 PM (r+sAi)
I didn't know the ins and outs of the Keating Five, and was prepared to accept his bailing on his first marriage (on the grounds that the guy who came back after five years of captivity by the Democrats was doubtless not the guy who left).
But now ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:04 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 07, 2018 02:58 PM (KxbBq)
...........
F that. I'm havin' three. With chocolate syrup.
Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (HgMAr)
Kill him with kindness.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (IdMiN)
Yep.
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Johnny at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (kUotE)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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McCain wanted this moment, to have the nation talking about his diss.
This is what animates him in his supposed final days. Petty spite.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (39g3+)
Could that person possibly be B.H. Obama?
Posted by: Scott_T at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: dave at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (8uzdZ)
He's gone on record saying he hated Palin as a VP choice. I'm 100% sure he wanted Lieberman which would have made him lose by even more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM
Palin was the ONLY reason I held my nose and voted for Juan. What a dick move by McCain. Hurry along John.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 07, 2018 03:05 PM (3c1uO)
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Not beloved. In any way, shape, or form. By anyone.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 02:53 PM (vg8iE)
Yeah, I wonder who Tapper thinks McCain is "beloved" by.
Posted by: rickl at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (xjiRE)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 07, 2018 03:02 PM (kUmUV)
I'd be organizing my sock drawer that day.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (oYp/M)
Yeah, help make McCain look petty and mean.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: x at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (UfMVm)
I'm trying but this effer is too ornery.
Posted by: THe tumor at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: rickl at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (xjiRE)
McCain is as beloved as Tapper, so there's that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (oYp/M)
... and then have have the pallbearers "crash" it into the hole in the ground.
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (ANC8E)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 03:06 PM (XkxK0)
Posted by: Bruce at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (8ikIW)
(reportedly working w/Remington on loans. Go figure)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (3dsTO)
The dance on my grave will be especially popular I should think. An annual event for some most likely.
Posted by: Lily(Twinkies ((please don't play like a bunch of wimmin this year)) Superfan) AoSHQ assassin in th at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (51bkn)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: Lloyd Bentsen at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (/qEW2)
Don't be distracted from the good news - McCain will be gone - and don't forget what's important: replacing McCain with an intelligent person of integrity with at least a semblance of American values and mindset.
Bad news: about 30 more GOP senators need to be disposed of for the country to have a chance, and that's very unlikely.
Posted by: rhomboid as willow at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I think 2008 was unwinnable because of the financial crisis, but I at least wanted a candidate willing to throw a punch.
I voted Giuliani, I think he would have at least given Obama a nose bleed or two.
Had McCain never been the nominee, I actually think he would have lost his subsequent Senate primary.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:08 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: DaveA at May 07, 2018 03:08 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 07, 2018 03:08 PM (mk7Bj)
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (lKmt3)
She should've replied, "Yeah, just like you decided to do with your first wife."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:08 PM (oYp/M)
Agreed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Juan McCaine at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (Y4iuB)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (3dsTO)
It's also the Left and hypocrites like McCain that bitch and moan about how uncivil and unPresidential PDT is????
And yet they are acting worse.
AND it would be well to remember that McCain attacked Trump personally before Trump went after McCain.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (Lg2h/)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (aC6Sd)
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But there was something very, very wrong with McCain dissing Sarah Palin and saying he regretted choosing her as his running mate in 2008.
Nobody held a gun to McCain's head. Palin was his choice. To disparage her a decade later, after she worked her ass off to try and drag his withered carcass across the finish line, is just pathetic and petty and jerky. McCain is an ass.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (fqUgw)
"...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Truuuuummp!!!!"
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (3c1uO)
You have my undivided attention!
/Shep
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (Mbmmf)
Yes John, your funeral is all about you, you small, sorry little man. You have my pity. Good Day.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (eGFSg)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Toad-O at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (cct0t)
Why do they do this?
You don't have to list out all his failures, etc., but let's stop pretending his or any other Senator's (Byrd, Kennedy) passing is like losing royalty.
Ugh.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (W+vEI)
Megan seems to love daddy quite a bit, as is right. Maybe his wife?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (39g3+)
Nothing to see here, citizens. Everything was solved. Move along.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (VgKNm)
Aide "Sir, John McCain decided he does not want you at his funeral."
Trump "10:15 on the tee time, Ribs and chicken for the barbeque and ask Melania to make certain the Lincoln Bedroom is all set up. Would it be in poor taste to send that Diablo asshole a thank you note?"
Aide "Probably, sir."
Trump "Remind me to tweet something about him at the turn."
Posted by: JB1000 at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (16OL0)
Nobody held a gun to McCain's head. Palin was his choice. To disparage her a decade later, after she worked her ass off to try and drag his withered carcass across the finish line, is just pathetic and petty and jerky. McCain is an ass.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:09 PM (fqUgw)
The curious thing is that he apparently didn't realize that that went directly to his own judgment.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (eGFSg)
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (wwd4n)
really makes ya think, huh?
Like I think McCain's always just been a resume without an actual job description. Cool, rich vietnam POW vet who is like super conservative...only he hates his party and its voters.
So...what do you do, exactly?
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (sB8d1)
I was searching for that clip where the Klingons all gather around some muckity-muck with the cattle prods to make sure he's dead but couldn't find it.
Posted by: DaveA at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (FhXTo)
You know, when he publicly said that now that we was beyond accountability to the voters, he could speak his mind.
Sadly the country is sooooo dumbed down, the civic culture is so collapsed, institutions are so degraded, that such an audacious (and stupidly self-damaging) statement did not become a national scandal, and lasting "legacy" for the stupid, dishonest, and very psycho McCain.
Posted by: rhomboid as willow at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (QDnY+)
Stand Up John ! Everyone Give Big Round Of Applause For John!
Oh My God, What Am I Talking About......You Can't Stand Up, You're Dead!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (k5hWy)
Posted by: Trump at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:10 PM (oYp/M)
"Hey, who picked all these useless assholes?"
"Uh, sir, that would be you."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (oYp/M)
Had McCain not diminished himself by suspending his campaign to become just one of a hundred senators (and then voted for the establishment position), and if he had instead campaigned against TARP and the bailouts, he could have had a shot.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: x at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (nFwvY)
There's nothing wrong with what McCain's choice to disinvite Trump. Even someone who wasn't egotistical and angry would probably do the same.
You mean besides the fact you're going over a guest list for your funeral?
Posted by: Flawess Male Logic at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (10vO4)
WHOOHOOO!
*digs thru pile of books to find Ollie's autograph...*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (sB8d1)
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What he's really saying is that he picked her so that she could bring in the patriotic bumpkins who wouldn't otherwise have cast a vote for him. He deliberately used her to do so. He hoodwinked the electorate she brought in to help his sorry ass. Even though it wasn't enough, her on the ticket gave him vastly more in vote count than he would've gotten otherwise. What a sickening little putz of a man.
Don't invite Trump to your funeral. Make sure to blare it far and wide that you are an insider; he is an outsider. I don't think it will work in McCain's favor...because honestly, I don't think people care for him very much.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 07, 2018 03:11 PM (mQ0Mc)
Megan seems to love daddy quite a bit, as is right. Maybe his wife?
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Truth be told, they probably can't stand him either.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 03:12 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:12 PM (AURKQ)
He seems to think he got the unlimited credit version. He wasn't the only guy who suffered in Vietnam. Whole bunch of heroes never came home, and a lot who did don't try and play that card every other day to justify whatever self serving bullshit they're currently involved in.
The only reason the media considers him any kind of hero is because he's so good at being a Dempublican.
Posted by: DurnedYankee at May 07, 2018 03:12 PM (37IEG)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2018 03:12 PM (89T5c)
Back when former President Nixon passed away, Richard M. Daley (son of the original mayor Daley) was asked about it by reporters who clearly were trying to egg him on. Daley's remarks were (paraphrased) you pay your respects to the family, and that's it.
Posted by: Boots at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (EBwPV)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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He blamed it on his advisers.
Such a strong leader.
I have mixed feelings on Palin, but my opinion is she did help McCain. The only time McCain was winning was after the Palin pick, then his campaign kneecapped her.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (XkxK0)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:01 PM (IdMiN)
I think that's nicely worded. I hope PDT would find an appropriate venue to say it, rather than tweet it. Maybe Sarah could say it in a press briefing.
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (0bRDi)
....
maybe, right? Except maybe someone could've said "hey, this is fucking Clinton's policy come to bite us in the ass. This has DNC finger prints all over it"
but that wouldn't have been McCain's style.
After all, McCain never forgave the GOP for Tina Fey making fun of Sarah Palin's accent.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (sB8d1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)
Also with his critizicizing Palin is beyond pathetic and petty and removed any sort of sympathy I might have had for him.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM (UfMVm)
Well said.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM (W+vEI)
I think Romney had a better chance in 2008. They ganged up on him in the primary.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM (DuAZ5)
Posted by: x at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (nFwvY)
After all, Trump -despite a constant anti-trump media barrage- is above water in latest approval polls.
I think it's a moment where the treasonous left and the cucky right got over it.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (sB8d1)
The Washington Uniparty loves him . . . he was a reliable lap dog.
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (953wK)
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM
Yep. Bye Felicia!
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (3c1uO)
I don't think they'll be able to resist.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (AURKQ)
Posted by: Grump928(C)
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I agree
I also think McCain could have focused in on Obama's radical past and made it a closer race.
Giuliani would have made it a race, he had gone toe to toe with race hucksters before and wasn't scared to jump in the mud.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (lKmt3)
You could inscribe their names on the head of a pin.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:03 PM (3dsTO)
Jake doesn't say "by many, many people" but "in many, many ways." Which could be "by one person." Like, by McCain.
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (0bRDi)
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If you think the 2008 financial crisis was bad you ain't seen NOTHING yet.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 03:15 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (sB8d1)
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (3c1uO)
You get, by proxy, the last word, sort of.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 07, 2018 03:14 PM (DuAZ5)
This is how its done people.
Take notes.
Posted by: blaster at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (Z5y53)
Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (HgMAr)
His grave will be covered with AstroTurf. Grass could never thrive where so many will be pissing.
Posted by: Golden Salute at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (Yc8Cz)
He wants Obama there... but not President Trump?
His choice... but it says a LOT about what he actually thinks... which is contrary to his stated public beliefs.
Posted by: Don Q at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (zSVEm)
Ha. That would be great. Right in the middle serve Obama, Hillary, Bill, etc etc.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:17 PM (DjeLN)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:17 PM (sB8d1)
Fortunately, I can now retire that one, as the vandal will soon be gone.
Posted by: rhomboid as willow at May 07, 2018 03:17 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (7uYFy)
Without his peculiar brand of incompetence, it's possible either one would have lost their elections. At any rate: that great pig Kennedy is increasingly remembered as an overrated, America- hating disposed of women. Let it be the same with McCain.
Posted by: trev006 at May 07, 2018 03:17 PM (UCfYv)
And he wants Obama to speak at his funeral??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Obama thought McCain was too old before God did.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 07, 2018 03:17 PM (kfcYC)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2018 03:17 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (sB8d1)
A bitter prick with the personality of a zombie?
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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He blamed it on his advisers.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:13 PM (lKmt3)
Who picked his advisors?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (oYp/M)
that shows us what spite and vindictiveness looks like... even unto the
grave.... McCain is a good example of a bad example....
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (zSVEm)
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He's going to ride that sucker all the way down.
Again.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (VgKNm)
Well i think McCain's foaming rabid love of war and death made a lot of people nervous and reluctant to vote for the guy. He's never seen an opportunity to send young men to die he didn't like, and I was certain that a president McCain would have seen us at war with Iran.
So yeah, another candidate might not have lost by as much. It was pretty close as is, given the circumstances, and any candidate smart enough to vote AGAINST TARP would have helped themselves a point or two in the final count. Why, exactly, did he go to Washington again??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (Lg2h/)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (wdmm9)
Posted by: Toad-O at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (cct0t)
Why would you have mixed feelings about Palin?
At the time McCain picked her she was a very sucesseful conservative governor of Alaska.
The left had to destroy her because she posed a real threat.
The woman that morphed into the Palin now know is a completely different animal from then.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (UfMVm)
Maybe for kicks, Trump can pardon him posthumously.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:18 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: keena at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (YiAop)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
____________
I don't see anything like 2008 in the near future.
I think stocks are over valued and will probably hit a correction or bear market n the coming months or year, but it will be a pretty normal cycle that comes back.
2008 was like a once in a hundred year meltdown.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman - Also, Comey is my brony at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (kGHHG)
Posted by: buzzion at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (lKs2v)
If the McCain funeral becomes a hate-fest it will also cast a long shadow.
Posted by: Boots at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (EBwPV)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
............
Who's paying for that?
Posted by: wth at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (Lg2h/)
You get, by proxy, the last word, sort of.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (yL25O)
Yeah, but then they drink your beer, wait until sunset, and piss on your grave. Or so I'm told.
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
Sounds like that's what you're hoping for.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (r9UYA)
Even in death John McCain will prove himself to be a petty, petty man. A man who reached the highest pinnacle of his ineptitude.
Not many men reach that pinnacle. Not many men should.
So arrogant to think the president of the USA would take time from a plate covered with issues of global importance, but would perhaps take an entire day to fly to AZ and back, perhaps say a few words. But McCain, knowing the odds of that being slim, pulled the 'mean girls' card out and said, "You're not invited."
He's a cvnt. I don't like that word. Don't use it often. It needs to be saved for special occasions. This is one.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (LOgQ4)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (roQNm)
Truman did and said it sounded like it would be a fine service and he wished he could be there.
Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (czkHE)
Posted by: Burger Chef at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (XkxK0)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: buzzion
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You should have your own nationally syndicated column.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (a7La8)
____________________
And if he also hadn't gone along with the media's embargo of Obama's sketchy past (associations with terrorists, Islamists, corrupt crooks like Tony Rezko, overt racists and anti-Semites like Wright, etc.) and essentially endorsed Obama by reassuring skeptical Americans that "you have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency" -- he might have even won.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (fqUgw)
McCain shows his class yet again. All that money he got from his wife and he still can't buy any. He's had years to make that statement and he summons the "courage" to do so on his death bed.
Palin, however, will do the polite thing as always.
And Tapper et al. will condemn Palin while praising McCain the entire posthumous era. Count on it.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (H8S+R)
Yeah, I wonder who Tapper thinks McCain is "beloved" by.
Megan seems to love daddy quite a bit, as is right. Maybe his wife?
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Truth be told, they probably can't stand him either.
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I thought he would want to retire and spend as much time with his family and friends as he could.
No, McCain is going to hog that spotlight. He won't go quietly, I fully expect hime to further attack his supposed colleagues. Maybe a few more shots at Cruz, or us deplorables. McCain is hoping that he gets the "Countdown until he Croaks" treatment by the cable news clowns. He is that vain.
Posted by: rd at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (4dz1m)
Yeah. I once had to attend the funeral of a (very recently) former boss who's refusal to defend me from an inter-company power play left me unemployed. Long story but the guy absolutely, positively could have and should have saved my job.
Then a few months later he dropped dead, quite young. I felt like I had to attend, but man it was squirm-inducing. Especially since the assholes who engineered my ouster were all there.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (/qEW2)
Sounds like that's what you're hoping for.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (IdMiN)
A troll coming here to save our souls
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (Lg2h/)
I hope when I'm that close to death I'm not concentrating on whichever people didn't like me I'm going to disinvite to my funeral. The people who don't like me wouldn't come anyway.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (tpDAe)
Posted by: Famousyoutuber at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (jEmXJ)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: buzzion
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You should have your own nationally syndicated column.
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Except you are dead.
Although most of the nationally syndicated columnists are brain dead so it might still work.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:22 PM (hhfF0)
Posted by: Surfperch at May 07, 2018 03:22 PM (Brjj7)
Posted by: Don Q at May 07, 2018 03:16 PM (NgKpN)
Good point. His whole political career was a fraud. He probably ran as a Republican only because there was no way he could have gotten elected as a Democrat in Arizona (at the time)--succeeding Goldwater.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:22 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: JoeF.
There's at least a hundred million other people who prevented him from becoming President.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 07, 2018 03:22 PM (kfcYC)
But, had he been invited, I think Trump would have declined , so as not to be a "distraction." It would have been all kinds of awkward if he had gone. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama made it known to McCain's people that he would not go if Trump was going to be there.
Posted by: sillyme at May 07, 2018 03:22 PM (zYWPO)
Ezekiel 18:24, one of my favorite passages... But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at May 07, 2018 03:22 PM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 07, 2018 03:23 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (tpDAe)
Oh I don't know about that. Your a nice person, so not you, but hell there is a long list of people whom I'd go to dance on their grave or worse...but hell that's just me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:23 PM (Lg2h/)
This simply isn't true. It's ridiculous. He may indeed be admired or respected by some people somewhere.
I dunno.
But a "beloved" figure he has never been.
I think what Tapper really means is that McCain was beloved by the MSM.
Except for the brief campaign season of 2008, McCain and the media did have a love affair. They got political thrills. He got fame.
And Tapper honestly can't differentiate between his professional clique and the populace at large.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 07, 2018 03:23 PM (0jtPF)
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:23 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 03:20 PM (RD7QR)
I wonder what arrangements have been/will be made for Jane Fonda's gravesite. I'd suggest surrounding it with a fountain.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:23 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at May 07, 2018 03:23 PM (PvCxa)
At the time McCain picked her she was a very sucesseful conservative governor of Alaska.
The left had to destroy her because she posed a real threat.
The woman that morphed into the Palin now know is a completely different animal from then.
Posted by: Kreplach
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I LOVED Palin during the 2008 election, it was some of the decisions she made afterward that I didn't care for, like quitting as Governor. I know she had her reasons and she was badly mistreated by both the media and GOP, but some people can handle the big leagues and some can't.
She also seemed to care more about fame and cashing in on her celebrity stature than about winning back the country.
And then there was the constant defense of Mccain in every one of his primaries.
Regardless, I definitely like her more than McCain, but that's not saying much.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (lKmt3)
Jake Tapper applauds
??????
Hillary is president!"
This!
Posted by: Max Scene Waters at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: ejochs at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (3+0tg)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (zSVEm)
Trump does it again. Gets one of his haters to look petty. Trump will give a 20 second eulogy of meaningless platitudes after the Stain croaks and move on. He's like the wrestling villain hiding a sap in his waistband after clocking the hero then pleading innocence to the ref.
Posted by: mc at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (l1TIo)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (FZYNt)
Of course Jake wants to pin the medal of honor on McCain for riding a flaming Kamikaze onto the deck of the USS Trump.
Posted by: TJ at May 07, 2018 03:25 PM (YzMAB)
But a "beloved" figure he has never been.
I read in a European newspaper that Jimmy Carter was America's much-beloved President.
There must be two Jimmy Carters. Or two Americas. Because I suspect even Rosalyn isn't that crazy about him.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:25 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 03:25 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 03:07 PM (aC6Sd)
Why, it's almost as if McCain and the Republicans threw the election to Obama.
Posted by: rickl at May 07, 2018 03:25 PM (xjiRE)
No doubt McShit's mouthpiece will comment on this
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:25 PM (Lg2h/)
John McCain never shot down a single enemy plane in his life, the only planes he downed were 5 of his own.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (k1TUh)
I wonder if Jeff Sessions will attend?
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Senators would be appropriate (Sessions was there 20 years?). Any Senator attending would be appropriate.
Again, McCain is a Senator, one of 100. Sitting president does not have a role. In fact, I can't find a sitting president who attended anything except equivalent head of state, if possible.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Lester at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (LfJIn)
Posted by: Famousyoutuber at May 07, 2018 03:21 PM (jEmXJ)
Huh?!? I thought the system was designed to autoban spammers.
Posted by: Surfperch at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (Brjj7)
I wonder what arrangements have been/will be made for Jane Fonda's gravesite. I'd suggest surrounding it with a fountain.
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Not unless it is served by its own sewage treatment plant.
They need to think drainage and solid waste management.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (a7La8)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:49 PM (FZYNt)
I'm now picturing the open casket scene from Charade. Mirror against his lips to make sure he's not breathing, sticking him with a pin...
Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: ejochs at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (3+0tg)
No the McCain campaign claimed Bush spread the rumors. He was always a paranoid shit.
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: Jake's Mom at May 07, 2018 03:27 PM (Dp6qK)
The Last Decent Republican
A Hero's Last Mission: Resist Trump!
Class Act vs Crass Act
Posted by: NY Daily News Headline Options at May 07, 2018 03:27 PM (koNhm)
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Who fathered a black love child? Me?
Posted by: Bill C. at May 07, 2018 03:27 PM (vg8iE)
My understanding is that the Reds used lawfare to accuse her of 14 ethics violations, against which she had to defend herself out of her own pocket (by state law), the cost for which came to be ca. $500,000. And that's why she quit.
Incidentally, none of the 14 alleged ethics violations was borne out in fact.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:27 PM (oYp/M)
It won't be in AZ, it'll be in D.C., so that all of his fellow Establishment hacks can attend w/o inconveniencing themselves.
Those were the people McCain really cared about, not the rubes in AZ who voted for him, and whose interests he was supposed to be representing (but never was).
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:27 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: ejochs at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (3+0tg)
But hey, he was a member of the same club, so it's all good...
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:28 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: maddogg at May 07, 2018 03:28 PM (XkxK0)
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at May 07, 2018 03:28 PM (dnQ1L)
Veterans who don't pay very close attention to politics.
My Dad is a retired senior enlisted Air Force guy. He and the buddies he keeps contact with see McCain as a former POW who refused to take an early exit until the guys captured before him were released.
I don't know if "beloved" applies. I'd say they hold him in very high regard.
Before you tell me he's wrong and he should pay attention to what McCain has done for the last 45 years, you're preaching to the choir.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 07, 2018 03:28 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 07, 2018 03:28 PM (xBSm0)
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 07, 2018 03:28 PM (y7DUB)
Please see Senator Paul Wellstone's funeral.
Jackass.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (ATVNj)
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (IdMiN)
John McCain never shot down a single enemy plane in his life, the only planes he downed were 5 of his own.
"Shooting down 5 planes makes you an ace doesn't it?"
--Chris Cuomo, CNN Super Genius
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (39g3+)
The Last Decent Republican
A Hero's Last Mission: Resist Trump!
Class Act vs Crass Act
Posted by: NY Daily News Headline Options at May 07, 2018 03:27 PM (koNhm)
Death Becomes Him
Posted by: Jake's Mom at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (Dp6qK)
She also seemed to care more about fame and cashing in on her celebrity stature than about winning back the country.
And then there was the constant defense of Mccain in every one of his primaries.
Regardless, I definitely like her more than McCain, but that's not saying much.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (lKmt3)
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She was hoisted on her own petard. The corruption laws in Alaska were reform measures that had been backed by her. They included the provision that politicians under investigation were not allowed to use campaign dollars for their defense. So, her opponents started filing bogus allegations against her. She had to defend using her own money. And, they just kept on coming.
Think about it. Had she stayed in office, she literally would have had to file for bankruptcy. That would have been a mess politically, and she would have ended up broke. It was an untenable position. Her way out seems bad, but she had no good choices.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (pvjTE)
Campaign finance reform.
Constantly knifing the GOP and even the GOPe in the back.
Publicly insulting his base.
Trying to close the gunshow 'loopholes'.
His horrible ran campaign of 08 and the lessons on how not to run it.
Rick Wilson and Nicole Wallace into national prominence. Both about as republicans as Cancer Face to begin with and now have their niche as the Token Republicans in many MSM talk shows.
So.....
May the Barbed Cock of Beelzebub ravage his cork hole for a thousand generations and then his mouth for the next thousand.
Posted by: Blanco at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (QGdDN)
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:19 PM (lKmt3)
And they got us out of it by giving $10 trillion dollars to banks and keeping interest rates near zero ever since. Neither of those will work again and none of the underlying problems were solved. All of the bailout money went to inflating the equities bubble instead of housing and now the housing bubble is being reinflated again.
To top it off crashing the economy may be the only way they can unseat Trump.
For example, DeutschBank's annual report last December lists a single line item noting $58 TRILLION in derivatives on their books. That is one bank. The whole GDP of the entire fucking planet. With one bank.
What's coming is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (AURKQ)
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You mean the Anacostia Metro Station, right?
Replete with crackheads and gangbangers and other Democrat voters.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (ATVNj)
That's something to respect, about the only thing in his life. And that's all I have to say on the topic, not knowing exactly what else went on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (39g3+)
--Chris Cuomo, CNN Super Genius"
AH hahaha I missed that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (k1TUh)
Fox should start pulling drunks out of homeless shelters and start putting them on panels as "Democrats"
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (koNhm)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (sB8d1)
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No way is he staying in it. It would be interpreted as a sign of weakness by the Dems, the media, the Mullahs and most importantly, the Norks on the eve of his meeting with Whoa Fat....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Christian Toto at May 07, 2018 03:30 PM (GppXG)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 07, 2018 03:31 PM (rBnYq)
Posted by: Blanco at May 07, 2018 03:29 PM (QGdDN)
Nope. We are building the dang fence!
Posted by: Satan at May 07, 2018 03:31 PM (Dp6qK)
FIVE planes?? Did he own stock in an aircraft manufacturer?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:31 PM (oYp/M)
With his mind diseased with cancer and what not he's such a pitiful man, bless his heart.
Posted by: Sarah Palin at May 07, 2018 03:31 PM (5WfVC)
That's not quite the whole story.
Also google McCain and the POW coverup and see why some POW / MIA families don't like McCain.
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:32 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 07, 2018 03:32 PM (ATVNj)
Posted by: Dixie Normas at May 07, 2018 03:33 PM (EfEQe)
Posted by: ejochs at May 07, 2018 03:24 PM (3+0tg)
No the McCain campaign claimed Bush spread the rumors. He was always a paranoid shit.
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:26 PM (IdMiN)
Correct; I hate absolving GWB and particularly that fat fuck Rove of anything, but this was another self serving lie by McRINO.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 07, 2018 03:33 PM (y7DUB)
But that will never happen.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 07, 2018 03:33 PM (RIKJa)
Everything that caused that meltdown is still in place. The bailouts, the legislation--it did nothing to address how it came about. If anything, the pump is primed for it to start all over again.
Instead of letting nature take its course, the thumb went on the scale for "Too Big Too Fail". And having thus refused to learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 07, 2018 03:33 PM (AM1GF)
Thats exactly right and the Palin that morphed out of that was the characterized Palin, where she was trying to eek out a living.
Its really sad what was done to her.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:34 PM (UfMVm)
Posted by: McCain's Glioblastoma at May 07, 2018 03:34 PM (CPk08)
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Only if "ace" means incompetent screw-up who graduated last in his Naval Academy class (and probably wouldn't have graduated at all if his name had not been McCain), and who repeatedly proved himself to be a dangerous fool in the cockpit.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:34 PM (fqUgw)
I actually do remember Obama 'honoring' Kennedy with attendance. Not cool, should have been Biden.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2018 03:34 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:35 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (zSVEm)
Then she did an OJ. She stated she would work hard to reform those laws but instead went on big buck speaking tours. Why not though, everyone else was doing it.
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (IdMiN)
https://tinyurl.com/yc2rh94s
Always the seriously weird health shit with Grandma Wobbles.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:35 PM (G0vdT)
That bastard never credited me either.
Posted by: McCain's Glioblastoma at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (7uYFy)
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Money is problem, but its the least of our problems.
2008 was not an organic event.
It won't be organic the next time either.
There are always solutions, its just that some of the solutions will mean that a lot of "rich" people and bond holders will not be happy.
And by not happy I mean WWIII.
This is the primary reason why 2008 hasn't happened again. They know he will pull the plug on their money if they do. Honey Badger don't give a damn.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (IXY1i)
Yeah I don't know if it happened or not, all we know is that the McCain campaign claims it happened. No recording, no proof, no evidence, just the claim. Maybe it did? I'm just really skeptical that would make any difference at all in an election in 2000. Maybe 1950 but by that point???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:34 PM (fqUgw)
Hey, it's HIS blog, so be nice....
Posted by: blaster at May 07, 2018 03:37 PM (Z5y53)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 07, 2018 03:08 PM (mk7Bj)
That would go over the heads of too many people. Awesome idea though.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 07, 2018 03:37 PM (vgwv+)
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:35 PM (G0vdT)
Inside the dust jacket will be a little folded up parachute.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:37 PM (AURKQ)
C'mon dude, try to be more creative! We're artists here!
Posted by: Stormy Daniels at May 07, 2018 03:37 PM (DuAZ5)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (zSVEm)
Instead of letting nature take its course, the thumb went on the scale for "Too Big Too Fail". And having thus refused to learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil
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I feel like you can always find a doomsday scenario no matter what. How long have we had a deficit that we know can never be paid back?
The economy though right now is doing really well, company earnings are up, unemployment is at the lowest level in generations, a major tax reform law is just starting,etc.
I guess you can just try and hide in gold forever but most people usually get pretty burned by that strategy.
Even had you bought stocks in the peak before the meltdown in 2008, had you held on to stocks you would have almost doubled your money
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (lKmt3)
That's something to respect, about the only thing in his life. And that's all I have to say on the topic, not knowing exactly what else went on.
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That was real easy for McCain to do, not taking the early exit! ! Bastard was given very decent treatment as a result of his perfidy (Hanoi Songbird---so named by fellow POWs) and his family history!
And at his "end" he was delivering some really bad sh*t to enemies of the US: Makes Benedict Arnold look like a Boy Scout in comparison.
Posted by: Old Codger at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (HvZln)
https://tinyurl.com/yc2rh94s
Always the seriously weird health shit with Grandma Wobbles.
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Even money on back brace, vs. bulletproof armor since the cabal knows she knows where the bodies are buried.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (PMzMr)
And I owe John McCain even less.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (4ErVI)
Its really sad what was done to her.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 03:34 PM (UfMVm)
Kind of like what was done to Newt as a gazillion ambulance chasers filed nuisance suits as the GOPe stalwarts chortled away like the backstabbing fucks littering the trash party.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 07, 2018 03:39 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 07, 2018 03:39 PM (fA1SL)
I was just thinkin', and I can't be the only one, that a brace would explain her weird rigidity while being propped against a bollard and then tossed in the van like a roll of carpet.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:39 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: DocJ at May 07, 2018 03:39 PM (NYS7S)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (39g3+)
Strom Thurmond would have never had a political career if it came out that he fathered a black "love" child in 1926.
That daughter never came forward until after he died.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:39 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: blaster
____________________
Ace is old, but he's not John McCain old!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 07, 2018 03:40 PM (fqUgw)
https://tinyurl.com/yc2rh94s
Always the seriously weird health shit with Grandma Wobbles.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (3dsTO)
Holy crap the AI in her exoskeleton is sentient! The implications are staggering!
Posted by: joncelli, temporary orc at May 07, 2018 03:40 PM (RD7QR)
I think it was an open secret though it became so after he was well established.
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:41 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 07, 2018 03:41 PM (vkS2Z)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:41 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 07, 2018 03:41 PM (vkS2Z)
And soft-close cupboard doors.
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (0bRDi)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable!
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Concur.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (a3tan)
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Such a mystery.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (kz4or)
I read in a European newspaper that Jimmy Carter was America's much-beloved President.....
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:25 PM (oYp/M)
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There was probably more "love" for Billy-Beer Carter.
There are a handful politicians for which the epithet "beloved by many" may justly apply ---FDR, Ike, JFK, Reagan, Obama. (You can be beloved by many and also hated by many.)
And there are those for whom it just doesn't work --- Truman, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, the Bushes.
I'm trying to think of someone below the POTUS level who qualifies as "beloved" on the national stage. Hard to come up with anyone. Hubert Humphrey maybe. Even his political opponents liked his cheerful disposition.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)
Posted by: Obama at May 07, 2018 03:41 PM (IdMiN)
I'm thinking that was not exactly an uncommon thing in the South....
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: rhomboid as willow at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (QDnY+)
Its not as bad as it got in 2007, but we're headed in that direction. But the next crash I expect to come from states and the unbelievably messed up retirement benefits that are ballooning constantly.
That was what the "stimulus" package mostly consisted of: paying off states with money printed at the Fed to let them pay for retirements.
In almost every state in the union, the SEIU managed to get contracts negotiated in the 1990s giving retirees pay equal to their last salary... forever. Now, if this were 1918 and people generally didn't live much beyond 70, that wouldn't be such an issue, but the way things are now, people are living a long time past retirement and every year more and more people are added to that list, almost exponentially.
It is literally impossible for a state to keep paying a ballooning number of employees who never work. Its like they hire dozens of new employees every year to sit at home and watch Matlock reruns. This is breaking almost every state's bank and cannot continue. But to fix it requires states to negate those contracts and greatly diminish retirement benefits of people who are already retired. People who are the most reliable voting bloc in the state, and reliably Democrat.
That's simply not going to happen. Ever.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)
Bob Dole?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:43 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 07, 2018 03:43 PM (fA1SL)
If karma loves me, it will be a paraphrasing of Poe's published obituary written by his literary rival Rufus Griswold. Tons of shade thrown, oh my.
"This announcement will startle many, but few will be grieved by it...He had, to a morbid excess, that desire to rise which is vulgarly called ambition, but no wish for the esteem or the love of his species, only the hard wish to succeed, not shine, not serve, but succeed, that he might have the right to despise a world which galled his self-conceit."
Read the whole thing, it's amazing.
https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Poe-Obituary-by-Rufus-Griswold
Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2018 03:43 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: VA MKZ at May 07, 2018 03:44 PM (tkZ2O)
Posted by: Anachronda at May 07, 2018 03:44 PM (sGtp+)
I'm hoping ace does at least a brief anticipatory gloating humorous post about the potential for hilarity at Wednesday's arraignment for the Russian internet company defendants. Mueller's shop really appears to have effed up this one badly.
Posted by: rhomboid as willow at May 07, 2018 03:44 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Old Codger at May 07, 2018 03:38 PM (HvZln)
We aren't called Boy Scouts anymore.
Posted by: Scouts BSA at May 07, 2018 03:44 PM (Brjj7)
Good verse. It astounds me that the left has such a primitive notion of ethics (ie. racial/generational guilt) and that the Old Testament has a far more sophisticated notion (individual guilt).
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:44 PM (/qEW2)
FOIA doc to having lost the original chain of custody for Felonia's
bathroom server, amd having to generate a new one? Five weeks, no
record. From its being taken to secure storage and another SA
retrieving it, somehow, they lost the chain of custody docs.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 07, 2018 03:39 PM
.
.
.If true, that means they did not have the actual server to examine. What they most likely had was something provided to them by the hillary team, which I can guarantee with 99.999% confidence rate was not the server that she was actually using.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 07, 2018 03:45 PM (+Dllb)
That's something to respect, about the only thing in his life. And that's all I have to say on the topic, not knowing exactly what else went on.
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That was real easy for McCain to do, not taking the early exit! ! Bastard was given very decent treatment as a result of his perfidy (Hanoi Songbird---so named by fellow POWs) and his family history!
And at his "end" he was delivering some really bad sh*t to enemies of the US: Makes Benedict Arnold look like a Boy Scout in comparison.
Posted by: Old Codger
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OC, I've never heard that. Linkage/source please..
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at May 07, 2018 03:45 PM (a3tan)
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:45 PM (0bRDi)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 07, 2018 03:46 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: VA MKZ at May 07, 2018 03:46 PM (tkZ2O)
That's simply not going to happen. Ever.
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No not as long as the feds keep giving them money to pay it and or the taxpayers vote to increase taxes to pay it, and/or the bond buyers loan them money to pay it. Bankruptcy, on the other hand, can have startling effects.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:47 PM (PMzMr)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:47 PM (AURKQ)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 07, 2018 03:47 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:47 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 07, 2018 03:41 PM
OK...HaHa. I get it. This is really a joke by ace isn't it?
I had to google rev-a-shelf. Looks good but wayyyyy too much work.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (0tfLf)
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That is definitely a real upcoming problem and is already here in many states.
My guess is most of it will be something like retirees get 50 cents on the dollar, which is still a gold plated retirement package nobody in the private sector gets anymore. Some of these people are getting six figure for the rest of heir lives.
It will be interesting to see what states bail them out, you'd be amazed how many Republicans worship at the altar of law enforcement and will want to bail out police officers.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (lKmt3)
In memory of Senator Donald Cranston and Senator John Glenn.
Like them McCain will be corrupt to the bitter end, and he will be bitter to the corrupt end.
Soon we will be able to collectively say, "Well.....bye."
Posted by: Minuteman at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (5WfVC)
Posted by: kraken
Me too. she should probably post some nudie pics
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (FZYNt)
how bad could it have been? the plastic bag hadn't been invented yet.
Posted by: Anachronda at May 07, 2018 03:44 PM (sGtp+)
And California hadn't even banned them yet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (oYp/M)
Indeed. Friend of mine is retired cop.
Makes more today than any time in his first 20 years.
Will turn 60 next year...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (6Ll1u)
Not mutually exclusive. One can trigger another. We're tapdancing on a stage made of unexploded bombs and expecting we can do so forever.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (Pg+x7)
I LOVED Palin during the 2008 election, it was some of the decisions she made afterward that I didn't care for, like quitting as Governor. I know she had her reasons and she was badly mistreated by both the media and GOP, but some people can handle the big leagues and some can't.
My understanding is that the Reds used lawfare to accuse her of 14 ethics violations, against which she had to defend herself out of her own pocket (by state law), the cost for which came to be ca. $500,000. And that's why she quit.
Incidentally, none of the 14 alleged ethics violations was borne out in fact.
___________________________
The Democrats used the very ethics law she signed into law as governor to hound her out of office. Her family was being broken by the legal bills, because their was no mechanism to allow her to fund her defense, or be reimbursed by Alaska for her defense.
I blame her and her Alaska coalition for passing a defective bill that allowed the Pain haters to drive her out of office.
Any Proposed Law should be viewed with the thought, "Would I trust this POWER to an Enemy."
Posted by: rd at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (4dz1m)
I'm trying to think of someone below the POTUS level who qualifies as "beloved" on the national stage. Hard to come up with anyone. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 07, 2018 03:42 PM (0jtPF)
Steve Scalise?
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (0bRDi)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (Pg+x7)
Soros is mort?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 03:50 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 03:50 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 07, 2018 03:51 PM (xBSm0)
Indeed. Friend of mine is retired cop.
Makes more today than any time in his first 20 years.
Will turn 60 next year...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 03:48 PM (7LY+6)
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Got a cop friend with same situation. However, he retired at 45. Got himself a second government job which I'm sure will pay him a second pension.
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:51 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: JoeF. at May 07, 2018 03:43 PM (7uYFy)
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NO. I do think he became somewhat lovable after he retired from politics, but not before.
Teddy Kennedy crossed my mind but I'm not convinced the moon-bats really loved HIM so much as the Kennedy Mystique combined with the Designated Leftist role he played.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (0jtPF)
contracts and greatly diminish retirement benefits of people who are
already retired. People who are the most reliable voting bloc in the
state, and reliably Democrat.
That's simply not going to happen. Ever.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:43 PM (39g3+)
You forget another option: inflating all the unpayable debts away. A $100k/yr pension CAN be paid if they've printed enough fiat such that a loaf of bread costs $10k.
The unfortunate side-effect of that will also be wiping out the value of everyone else's assets and self-funded retirements.
It's coming. Might take 10 years, might take 20 years. There simply is no other option. I can certainly see a stock market crash before 2020 though if they can't get Trump any other way. The market is so historically overvalued right now it's funny. NONE of the valuations make any rational sense. The numbers on balance sheets all over are total fiction and have been for years now.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (UBzPO)
I can't think of an example of it happening before.
Posted by: davidt at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (djCea)
During a speech at the Columbia Rotary Club, Senator Lindsey Graham recalled telling the Chinese ambassador that President Donald Trump is crazy.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/lindsey-graham-to-chinese-ambassador-trump-is-crazy/
Posted by: Under Fire at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 03:36 PM (3dsTO)
Yikes. She should give a commencement speech at Notre Dame seeing as how she's mutated into Quasimodo Clinton.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Cuck Tapper at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: kraken
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I think it's even worse than that, aren't their benefits are actually enshrined in the Illinois Constitution?
The last time state tried to pass pension reforms, the state supreme court tossed them out and said the constitution supersedes it.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (lKmt3)
Yup. The Dems in particular have a blind spot about this, which is why they reacted so badly to PDT winning election.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)
"Trauma From Slavery Can Actually Be Passed Down Through Your Genes"
"You can get PTSD from your ancestors"
no link because I'm not going to throw them clicks. But its real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (aC6Sd)
Quite frankly, who's going to watch this wretched piece of propaganda shit other than immediate family?
Hi my name's John. Bye John.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (bB4HN)
It maybe fits in this thread . . . sorta.
https://youtu.be/Uu5hzc2Mei4
(Some may consider it to be in questionable taste.)
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (953wK)
Our leaders are not meant to be "beloved". They're meant to be disposable.
"Beloved"-ing (beloving?) is for monarchs and dictators. And is typically compulsory.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:54 PM (AURKQ)
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Did anyone tell the Chinese ambassador that Sen. Lindsey Graham just might like to suck a cock now and then?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 03:54 PM (vg8iE)
I can't think of an example of it happening before."
McCain releases his inner Anna Wintour.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 07, 2018 03:54 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (/qEW2)
???
Wasn't Quasimodo a sympathetic character?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:54 PM (Lg2h/)
__________________
Maybe they don't want to risk getting the Donald Trump treatment?
It doesn't really work, but they think if they try to fly under the radar, and support the right causes, they will get immunity. That doesn't even work for a loyal Democrat Apparatchik like Stuart Smiley Franken.
Posted by: rd at May 07, 2018 03:55 PM (4dz1m)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:52 PM (/qEW2)
keynote: Sanctuary cities.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 03:55 PM (AURKQ)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (aC6Sd)
She seems like she's all growed up and her own person. But, yes.
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:55 PM (0bRDi)
"Trauma From Slavery Can Actually Be Passed Down Through Your Genes"
"You can get PTSD from your ancestors"
no link because I'm not going to throw them clicks. But its real.
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Gee, and I thought the Ripley clone in Alien: Resurrection having memories via the genetic crossing was a bridge too far....
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 03:55 PM (vg8iE)
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To be fair, they never thought a non uniparty candidate would ever win again. When the only two choices are uniparty there isn't much risk. Who thought Trump will likely elbow his way past, what, 12 primary challengers on the republican side?
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 03:55 PM (6AhMo)
Most of the Dow companies have a significant cash reserve. That will stem a catastrophic collapse .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 03:56 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: Archer at May 07, 2018 02:50 PM (gbWkA)
This is exactly correct. Trump actually knows how to behave, he just doesn't want to most of the time. McCain musta been dropped on his head as a child.
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 07, 2018 03:56 PM (Jj+59)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 03:56 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 03:56 PM (5gaNQ)
A lot of folks in the GOP have the same problem with not thinking through policy decisions or approaches to things that frustrate them. WE NEED TO USE THEIR TACTICS AGAINST THEM! sometimes, but not always. Sometimes that just makes matters much, much worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:56 PM (39g3+)
Did anyone tell the Chinese ambassador that Sen. Lindsey Graham just might like to suck a cock now and then?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 03:54 PM (vg8iE)
Graham was sucking the ambassadors cock when he told him Trump was crazy
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (10vO4)
Any Proposed Law should be viewed with the thought, "Would I trust this POWER to an Enemy."
Posted by: rd at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (4dz1m)
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Aren't there anti-SLAPP laws that could have been invoked for this purpose? Doesn't seem like something that should be impacted by the law you state.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:49 PM (0bRDi)
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No way. Very few people even know who he is.
Gabby Giffords OTOH --- well, I don't think the Left loves HER. She's just a prop with no personality at all.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (0jtPF)
If Jon Mccane is worried about who will be invited and who will not be invited to his funeral, then maybe Jon Mckane is focusing more of his mental energy on being a mean girl in this world than is good for his soul.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (0bRDi)
the state supreme court tossed them out and said the constitution
supersedes it.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (lKmt3)
Illinois is bad California has them beat. CalPERS would've probably already imploded if the Trump market boom hadn't happened. They need over 7% YOY yield on their market investments just to break even.
And don't think for a second they won't be going to the Fed Gov't for a bailout. They'll likely get it to. That's part of the game the politicians are playing.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: m at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (0bRDi)
++++++
New York Magazine: Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao Finally Gets Her Own Ethics Scandal
Posted by: JoshBarroquette at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 03:56 PM (5gaNQ)
But you're not still hounding Egyptians to give you "reparations," are you?
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (953wK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (Lg2h/)
Posted by: eleven at May 07, 2018 03:58 PM (+lOpA)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 03:58 PM (5gaNQ)
In theory at last, that's supposed to be a celebration of God's great salvation of His people, though, not a grudge fest against Egyptians.
Gee, and I thought the Ripley clone in Alien: Resurrection having memories via the genetic crossing was a bridge too far
The entire Dune saga is based on that concept though. You accept it as a reader, because its basically fantasy, but its a silly idea.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:59 PM (39g3+)
Part Deuce...
we're gonna need a different set of russian hookers
Posted by: Anachronda at May 07, 2018 03:59 PM (v3pYe)
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Did anyone tell the Chinese ambassador that Sen. Lindsey Graham just might like to suck a cock now and then?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 07, 2018 03:54 PM (
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So, Now that the Chinese Ambassador, the Chinese Leader Xi, and the Chinese Intelligence Agencies have met and analyzed President Donald Trump, who do you think the Chinese are classifying as "CRAZY?"
"That Rindsey Glaham, He Clazy Man!"
Posted by: rd at May 07, 2018 03:59 PM (4dz1m)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 07, 2018 04:00 PM (O7MnT)
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don't forget about the genetically inherited PTSD
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:00 PM (OjuEr)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 04:00 PM (5gaNQ)
And for all that, Romney came close. O's victory in 2012 was inside the margin of fraud.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 07, 2018 04:00 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 03:57 PM (Lg2h/)
The "we" in question being, primarily, the GOPe.
And they wonder why we (a different "we") hold them in such low esteem.
Posted by: filbert at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (953wK)
The entire Dune saga is based on that concept though. You accept it as a reader, because its basically fantasy, but its a silly idea.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:59 PM (39g3+)
You could have just condensed "Dune" as Silly... ( runs away)..
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (Lg2h/)
"You can get PTSD from your ancestors"
no link because I'm not going to throw them clicks. But its real.Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (39g3+)
Dang, Our Betters in media are REALLY angry about Kanye's comments, if they are churning out stuff like that to try and refute his slavery comment. (Which is more about mental slavery than physical, but whatevs.)
Trauma passed down thru genes, to justify never bettering your life I suppose. Candace Owen's Victor vs Victim theory in practice.
Posted by: LizLem at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: x at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (nFwvY)
Oregon managed it a decade or so ago, trimming the public employees contract because it was killing the state. It was outrageously generous, basically full benefits as an employee until you die. But there's still a huge debt building up and looming over the state. And as people age, they cost more and more.
Basically the SEIU took advantage of really stupid people in office during the boom years of the 1990s to think that would always be the economic conditions forever.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (39g3+)
40 pyramids and a camel...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 04:01 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 07, 2018 04:02 PM (Jj+59)
"Trauma From Slavery Can Actually Be Passed Down Through Your Genes"
"You can get PTSD from your ancestors"
no link because I'm not going to throw them clicks. But its real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (39g3+)
Sure. Why not. We live in the age of anti-science, so let's just make up whatever feelz good, find some jerkwad celebrity "science" people to claim it's true, and there you go.
The new religion.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2018 04:02 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 07, 2018 04:02 PM (7ZVPa)
And for all that, Romney came close. O's victory in 2012 was inside the margin of fraud.
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He didn't really win, except on TV, where it counted.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:02 PM (OS3Nk)
Posted by: GOP at May 07, 2018 04:02 PM (+lOpA)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 04:02 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (89T5c)
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That is literally true. And IL SC had to deny a reform law because it had to be changed by constitution.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: The NHS at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (7LY+6)
I knew you were going to say that.
Posted by: Muad dib at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (djCea)
Posted by: SUG at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (9mrl2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (4lR8S)
Im pretty sure most states have public education and pensions enshrined in their constitutions, which makes it virtually impossible to reform either.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (UfMVm)
"Trauma From Slavery Can Actually Be Passed Down Through Your Genes"
"You can get PTSD from your ancestors"
no link because I'm not going to throw them clicks. But its real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (39g3+)
Maybe it was a typo - supposed to read "You can get STDs from your ancestors"
Posted by: USS Kearsarge at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (0tfLf)
Boynton Beach Police take special needs kids to the prom:
https://tinyurl.com/y9cz5d55
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (jxbfJ)
Still another option (for states, at least): tax state pensions, especially for those pensioners who move away to low-tax states.
I look for California to do just this as the impending fiscal crisis comes to a head.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (7LY+6)
Shoulda, coulda , woulda.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (IdMiN)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (zSVEm)
And don't think for a second they won't be going to the Fed Gov't for a bailout. They'll likely get it to. That's part of the game the politicians are playing.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
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The thing is, it can decades for this to really come to a head. Even California has dialed back its promised rate of return to buy itself time.
My guess is a few states like California and Illinois it will be be here within the next 5 years, but most of the country it could take decades.
But that alone will not collapse the economy and it won;t happen all at once. Basically state workers will have a more modest retirement than they were promised. But it will still be way better than most Americans 401k.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 07, 2018 04:00 PM (O7MnT)
Which is why I'm holding out the possibility Mccain's carcass isn't saying or doing any of this, it's his handlers. Because most people on their deathbeds AREN'T still trying to get even. It's lost its meaning by that point.
For most people, at least. This guy, I just don't know.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2018 04:05 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Kreplach at May 07, 2018 04:03 PM (UfMVm)
You'd think but what got enshrined can get deshrined when things get enough.
Once again California (and maybe IL) will lead the way. When the shit hits the fan, whom do you pay - the people who are doing the job now, or the people who USED to do the job?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 04:06 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: ShainS at May 07, 2018 04:06 PM (RRw7W)
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What's it called - the flat worm experiment? Where they teach a worm to crawl through a maze. Then grind it up and feed it to other worms and they can navigate the same maze first try. Not the same thing exactly, but Dune, worms and connection. . .
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:06 PM (hhfF0)
And cut state expenses. Anyone else drive around central CA lately? Yikes.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 07, 2018 04:07 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2018 04:07 PM (5gaNQ)
"Trauma From Slavery Can Actually Be Passed Down Through Your Genes"
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hmm. some would say the trauma of past slavery lives on through the name "slavic peoples" and through our chronic alcoholism and slavic demeanors
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 07, 2018 04:07 PM (sB8d1)
Posted by: buzzion at May 07, 2018 04:08 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: GOP at May 07, 2018 04:08 PM (+lOpA)
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What's it called - the flat worm experiment? Where they teach a worm to crawl through a maze. Then grind it up and feed it to other worms and they can navigate the same maze first try. Not the same thing exactly, but Dune, worms and connection. . .
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:06 PM (hhfF0)
So... if we grind up Neal DeGrasse Tyson, and feed him to Bill Nye...
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 04:08 PM (zSVEm)
CalPERS is my personal bete noire. They consistently assume unrealistically high rates of return, and then claim that the pension fund is OVER-funded, so the Democrat Party can help itself to the difference.
Now all CalPERS has to do is get 20% annual returns on its green, minority- and women-owned investments, and everything will work out fine, just fine.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 04:09 PM (oYp/M)
Posted by: rd at May 07, 2018 04:09 PM (4dz1m)
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 03:35 PM (G0vdT)
Inside the dust jacket will be a little folded up parachute.
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And a CD of McCain's previously suppressed recordings he did for the Hanoi commies!
Posted by: Old Codger at May 07, 2018 04:09 PM (HvZln)
Posted by: kraken at May 07, 2018 04:08 PM (zSVEm)
We'll get a plump nitwit.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 04:09 PM (oYp/M)
"Trauma From Slavery Can Actually Be Passed Down Through Your Genes"
"You can get PTSD from your ancestors"
no link because I'm not going to throw them clicks. But its real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 07, 2018 03:53 PM (39g3+)
That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
Posted by: Trofim Lysenko at May 07, 2018 04:09 PM (xjiRE)
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:09 PM (a7La8)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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It will be funny watching the blue on blue violence.
Good luck convincing a 25 year old teacher they have to split their salary for their entire career with someone who retired 40 years ago so they can keep their benefits.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 04:10 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 04:10 PM (Lg2h/)
Honestly pretty much all of California has spots that look like a demilitarized zone in terms of road conditions and graffiti all over everything and so on. You sort of expect that in Compton or Inglewood, but you also see it in Palo Alto and Mountain View, some of the richest parts of Silicon Valley.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 07, 2018 04:10 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 04:11 PM (Lg2h/)
Posted by: Skip at May 07, 2018 04:11 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Hellfire's Coming to Breakfast at Tiffany's, by Jake Tappakeggaday at May 07, 2018 04:11 PM (pNxlR)
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we'll make Bill Nye even dumber.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:12 PM (OjuEr)
Posted by: Burger Chef at May 07, 2018 04:12 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at May 07, 2018 04:12 PM (xcAaF)
Weasel Zippers
Bullshit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 04:11 PM (Lg2h/)
Where was she going to move this broad to?
Posted by: buzzion at May 07, 2018 04:12 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: BigFire at May 07, 2018 04:12 PM (PzKK9)
The bollard gave some thought to tripping a broad after Trump won.
Of course, the bollard had already done that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 07, 2018 04:13 PM (oYp/M)
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Oh no. Totally legit. Remember after Matt Lauer interviewed her a little too hard she threw a fit screaming if that fascist Trump wins we'll all be swinging from nooses.
Her problem is that there aren't many livable countries that don't have extradition to the US.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:14 PM (IXY1i)
Weasel Zippers
Bullshit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2018 04:11 PM (Lg2h/)
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How else was she going to avoid the indictments.
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 04:16 PM (G0vdT)
"... Alexa, can you give me a list of nations cross-referenced for liquor store density per-capita and current extradition treaty status?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 07, 2018 04:16 PM (AURKQ)
They're trying to pave the way for reparations. Which not coincidentally are going back in the Dems' playbook, it's been whispered.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 04:18 PM (3dsTO)
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Oh no. Totally legit. Remember after Matt Lauer interviewed her a little too hard she threw a fit screaming if that fascist Trump wins we'll all be swinging from nooses.
Her problem is that there aren't many livable countries that don't have extradition to the US.
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:14 PM (IXY1i)
Maybe she and Roman Polanksi can hangout together.
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 04:19 PM (G0vdT)
aka She carried Huma over the threshold.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 07, 2018 04:20 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: Broad, as in Hillary's Backside at May 07, 2018 04:24 PM (EATOD)
Posted by: Sir Hoes-sis at May 07, 2018 04:25 PM (qRWya)
Illinois it will be be here within the next 5 years, but most of the
country it could take decades.
But that alone will not collapse the economy and it won;t happen all
at once. Basically state workers will have a more modest retirement
than they were promised. But it will still be way better than most
Americans 401k.
Posted by: Maritime at May 07, 2018 04:04 PM (lKmt3)
Disagree about the states. Once one fails it will cause a cascade, much like the failure of one too-big-to-fail bank did in 2008.
There's no way the politicians are going to claw back pensions that have already been given. They may make changes to those signing up going forward but they will not change existing pensions. Bankruptcy might but currently there is no mechanism for states to declare bankruptcy. Either way taxpayers will pay.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 07, 2018 04:26 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: sherpa_K2 at May 07, 2018 04:32 PM (H/viJ)
And if McCain were an actual hero he would have resigned the moment he was diagnosed with brain cancer. The fact he clings to his job, when there are lots of other people willing and able to do it, reflects poorly on the man. Thinking you are indispensable is one of McCain's faults.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at May 07, 2018 04:33 PM (fftfA)
Dude --- 1. You're only an American hero if most people agree. And most don't agree that everyone who was ever captured in war (with shady stories about it, at that) is an automatic hero. Could be just unlucky.
2. No, it does not "say something" if the person is a petty, little man who has never met a globalist or leftist he won't kiss up to, while never supporting anyone remotely connected to ordinary Americans, like the Freedom Caucus. That means it is PERSONAL and not a statement about the other person at all (just a statement about the one doing the gratuitous slapping in public. Crude.)
3, If he were ever considered an American hero, the fact that he wants the most destructive, anti-American prez ever to speak at his funeral takes any of that away.
So save your silly opinions for your friends.
Posted by: two cents at May 07, 2018 04:38 PM (ITUSm)
I know, right? Who fucking cares who comes to my funeral? I sure won't. Invite whoever you want. or don't invite them. Or shoot my dead body out of a cannon. Who gives a crap?
I mean it takes a real asshole to think of this, say it, and a double super asshole to admire McCain over it.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at May 07, 2018 04:38 PM (fftfA)
Posted by: Wit's End at May 07, 2018 04:52 PM (ROYpB)
Posted by: goon at May 07, 2018 04:57 PM (PEcU2)
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 07, 2018 02:45 PM (FZYNt)
I agree. Getting sucked into a bottomless vortex would expedite the process of his passing. Or, in McStain's case, failing.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 07, 2018 04:58 PM (9BLnV)
Funny, he wasn't characterized that way at all in 2007-8.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 07, 2018 04:59 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Simplemind at May 07, 2018 04:14 PM (IXY1i)
Maybe she and Roman Polanksi can hangout together.
Posted by: WisRich at May 07, 2018 04:19 PM (G0vdT)
Do you think Polanski would ever again be able to obtain an erection around 12 year-olds once he'd seen Cankles naked?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 07, 2018 05:01 PM (9BLnV)
Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at May 07, 2018 05:13 PM (5KACt)
Screw him. He came back alive. Many of my friends did not.
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at May 07, 2018 05:14 PM (9X60i)
He'd pass gun control and other progressive positions just to think that someone would vote for him, and "prove" to himself he's a rebel. He seemed to be bad at nearly everything he tried.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at May 07, 2018 06:04 PM (gqWCa)
I did an actual spit-take when I read the headline.
And I never do that.
Wut an imbessal; Wut a maroon!
Posted by: oldowan at May 07, 2018 06:26 PM (In3KF)
Ummm, sorta. He was considered a hero for surviving the Hanoi Hilton. So were all the other folks who did. So, admittedly he has more going toward that than Kerry does.
But, heroism shouldn't be a static, permanent thing. His assholery since he leveraged his status into a political gig has worn his hero patina right off.
So, no, not really.
Posted by: GWB at May 07, 2018 06:28 PM (v9IJn)
Posted by: President Donald J Trump at May 07, 2018 06:59 PM (4bjXi)
John thank you for your service.
Unfortunately you are now nothing but a disservice, and I won't be sorry for your departure, or the liberal you spawned to poison the well of young actual conservative republicans.
Posted by: Shenry in TU at May 07, 2018 07:10 PM (iSvgt)
Good riddance to old garbage. Too bad the tumor didn't take him sooner. Meanwhile the republicans we could have used like Reagan died relatively young deaths, as the good guys usually do.
FUCK MCCAIN
Posted by: Shenry in TU at May 07, 2018 07:13 PM (iSvgt)
Quel surpris!
Posted by: John McCain Who? at May 07, 2018 07:25 PM (HLTe8)
I couldn't get out of McShamnesty's mailing list fast enough after he pulled the meeting with the 'dreamers'.
Old sack of krap couldn't leave fast enough.
Posted by: Shenry in TU at May 07, 2018 07:31 PM (iSvgt)
Posted by: Lost my cookies at May 07, 2018 08:00 PM (PNCUr)
I just assumed if someone wants to show up they will if they can make it. When that thief comes in the night then I will be with God and why would I care who to disinvite to a funeral?
It's like McCain just announced to the world that he doesn't believe in God and is an atheist at heart.
Posted by: doug at May 07, 2018 08:14 PM (89il5)
As for McCain, if I were McCain, I'd worry about the people who show up at my grave. They are going to have to put an armed guard around it to stop the line of people lined up to pee on it.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 07, 2018 09:43 PM (Sda6L)
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