Mid-Morning Open Thread

Napoléon Bonaparte Abdicated In Fontainebleau
Paul Delaroche

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

Comments

1 Does he not know that it's not a throne throne. Don't see the TP either. He also needs a boot shine and probably a bath. Great details in this portrait.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 09:23 AM (suO/a)

2 The look that says "I have a hemorrhoid the size of a walnut and I am not looking forward to that horseback ride."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at May 03, 2018 09:23 AM (hLRSq)

3 He looks like a spoiled little kid whose daddy has just taken away his pony.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:23 AM (oMtOd)

4 Waiting for the pizza delivery guy - and he's late.

Posted by: mindful webworker - arty smarty at May 03, 2018 09:23 AM (a2vo1)

5 met his Waterloo, but barely got his boots muddy.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 03, 2018 09:24 AM (bT8Z4)

6 Merde!

Posted by: Shoeless guy at May 03, 2018 09:25 AM (macz7)

7 Bad day in Fontainebleau!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 03, 2018 09:25 AM (n9EOP)

8 Paul Giamatti called and said "what a sourpuss."

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:25 AM (9chmE)

9 He looks like Ben Shapiro, except a little older and fatter.

Probably a #NeverTrumper as well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 03, 2018 09:25 AM (0ogQG)

10 He resigned at a restaurant?

Posted by: BignJames at May 03, 2018 09:25 AM (0+nbW)

11 Hiya

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 09:26 AM (fdo2c)

12 In those days, a candid snapshot took three weeks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:26 AM (oVJmc)

13 Id say get in the kitchen and bake me a pie!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:26 AM (JFO2v)

14 His combover needs work.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:26 AM (oMtOd)

15 That comb-over needs a little work.

Posted by: BignJames at May 03, 2018 09:27 AM (0+nbW)

16 That, right there, is the very image of defeat. I like the juxtaposition of imagery that convey his glories and might with his body language.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:27 AM (OyyDO)

17 Just a wild guess but the model was Original Guy ??

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:27 AM (Ymy4N)

18 Does he not know that it's not a throne throne. Don't see the TP either. He also needs a boot shine and probably a bath. Great details in this portrait.

Posted by: auscolpyr

And a new hairdo.

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 09:27 AM (fdo2c)

19 The Caputo GFM is up over $73k right now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 03, 2018 09:27 AM (0ogQG)

20 Geeze...he ought to work on that comb-over.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (5IJky)

21 Hitler video in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: Dr Alice at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (LaT54)

22 The Horde mind-meld. Gotta love it.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (oMtOd)

23 There's a lot going on here. You can see him scheming his next comeback.

(I don't know where Fontainbleu is in the history of Nappy).

(There's a great video by a guy who goes by Lindybeige about Napoleon's biggest rival. Lindybeige really thinks Nap is a right proper git, and also a bad person, a dick, and a a-hole).

Even for a runt Napoleon has tiny feet. At least his boots are muddy. He's still riding and walking the fields.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (fuK7c)

24 I don't think Steiner is coming

Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (2K6fY)

25
But First You Will Fontainebleu Me - a limerick

Bonaparte's plans were ill-fated
And his battle lines all dissipated
The Musselman throngs
Proved overly strong
"Mon Dieu! I've been Abdul-cated!"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (mvenn)

26 I pick up the check one more time but this forgetting your wallet bullshit is getting old.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:29 AM (JFO2v)

27 Nappy's nappy is nappy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:29 AM (oVJmc)

28 His combover needs work.

Posted by: bluebell

You'd think that in all his travels he would've captured a wig.

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 09:29 AM (fdo2c)

29 I just lost all of freakin' france, fellas. Enough about the combover!

Sockray Blue!!

Posted by: Nappy at May 03, 2018 09:29 AM (9chmE)

30 Nappy looks like he is recovering from a bender last night.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (JNTt1)

31 398 Christopher Nolan's Joker carried a potato peeler, and it is even on some of the posters.

Cost of consumer goods and services 1996 to 2016:
TVs -90%
Software, Toys: -60%
Cellphone service: -50%
New cars, furniture, clothing: ~0%
Food, housing: 57% (steady with inflation)
Health care: 110%
Childcare: 120%
College, textbooks: 200%
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 09:24 AM (rnAwa)

My first cell phone in mid 80's was a expensive corded sucker. First bill I got was $700 worth of roaming charges. Had to make a choice, get rid of my phone or cut down on the women.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (Ymy4N)

32 I picture Hillary sitting like this for fourteen hours straight on Election Night.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (oVJmc)

33 This by the way, I think, is just after Napoleon got told by the coalition powers that he had to abdicate fully, not abdicate in favor of his son, or draw back to the 1798 boundries of France.
He told his Marshals that they would fight on, that the Army would do as he directed, and Marshal Ney told him, "The army fights for the Generals, and we have had enough"

So, Steiner ain't coming.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (2K6fY)

34 Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (mvenn)

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Another Muldoon masterpiece.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (suO/a)

35 He just found out there's no wifi on Elba.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (0ogQG)

36 Looks like Nappy had his cake and wants more, too.

Posted by: jim at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (gjGvH)

37 sooo, what do you folks think about his hairdo ??

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (bUjCl)

38 ....The defeated look!

Posted by: TN VOLUNTEER at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (NDRcc)

39 He's an angry little elf!

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (ZpfqO)

40 A Befuddled Bonaparte Alone

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:31 AM (Ymy4N)

41 I picture Hillary sitting like this for fourteen hours straight on Election Night.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (oVJmc)

That's generous of you to imagine her even remotely upright.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (y87Qq)

42 Looks like he is about to throw an oil lamp at the next aid that walks in.

Posted by: Ripley at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (MxEKc)

43 There was a beer ad a few years ago that used this picture. I can't find it right now, but I did find this one for Brahma beer, which it makes me wish I were Nappy (embiggen for the detail):

https://tinyurl.com/ybap6szy

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (kqsXK)

44 "Not tonight, Josephine."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (oVJmc)

45 So, Steiner ain't coming.
Posted by: Kindltot

Steiner ain't even breathing hard.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (2ifxQ)

46 Joe Pesce was French?

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (2LelM)

47 That comb-over isn't fooling anyone Monsewer Napoleon.

Posted by: Tim from Nashua at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (EATOD)

48 Short, fat, and balding is no way to conquer Europe, son.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (fuK7c)

49 Is that Rudy after he spoke with Mueller?

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (r9UYA)

50 I bet David never painted him with dusty boots and a slump.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (LISuA)

51 President lies under oath and it's ho-hum.
President lies not under oath and it's get the rope.

Posted by: harleycowboy at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (+9AX9)

52 Just a little, very important tidbit.

Nappy and I have the same B-day

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (Ymy4N)

53 Larry Elder explains it all:

Larry Elder
@larryelder
.@kanyewest says blacks should give @realDonaldTrump a chance. @chancetherapper says blacks don't have to be democrats. And @RachelADolezal says blacks don't have to be black.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (+y/Ru)

54 Psst - don't fuck with the Russians.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (2LelM)

55 Looks like Hillary on election night.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (/tuJf)

56
Looks like his chest stopped itching...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (XWkhW)

57 I picture Hillary sitting like this for fourteen hours straight on Election Night.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (oVJmc)

That's generous of you to imagine her even remotely upright.
Posted by: hogmartin

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/I
Hillary + bollard.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (2ifxQ)

58 Able was I ere I saw Elba.

Posted by: Yppan at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (9chmE)

59 And I'm wrong, this is when he signed the surrender to the representatives of the 6th coalition.

Steiner has gotten his pension check and is checking out olive groves in Sardinia.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (2K6fY)

60 Able was I ere I saw Elba.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (JFO2v)

61 Joe Pesce was French?

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:32 AM (2LelM)

He was a fish.

Posted by: BignJames at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (0+nbW)

62 He is already plotting his return.

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (bUjCl)

63 Emperor, the Czar is on the phone and I think I hear Talleyrand giggling in the background...

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (B5R2a)

64 'Josephine, why can't you be true, oh Josephine, why can't you be true?'

No. Wait, that was somebody else.
Hey, John, damn! Can you get that woman to stop screaming?

Posted by: Eromero at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (zLDYs)

65 But his plans are toast.

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (bUjCl)

66 Delaroche didn't have good things to say about Napoleon. He did another work that shows N. in a ridiculous situation: https://tinyurl.com/y8whwc7n
This one is a direct response to David's majestic "Napoleon Crossing the Alps": https://tinyurl.com/yd3yfsep

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (OyyDO)

67 Russian Collusion Strikes Again

Posted by: Mueller,... Mueller,... Mueller at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (EATOD)

68 Alternate title: The Penguin in Repose

Just needs an umbrella.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (/wamz)

69
Anyone have a nip of brandy?

Posted by: Zombie Napoleon Bonaparte at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (XWkhW)

70 Why did he make him look like Peter Boyle

Posted by: WSMS at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (RWqIB)

71 I picture Hillary sitting like this for fourteen hours straight on Election Night.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:30 AM (oVJmc)

That's generous of you to imagine her even remotely upright.

Because... Jesus, that's a lot of gin you're talking about.

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (nBBdT)

72 68 Alternate title: The Penguin in Repose

Just needs an umbrella.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (/wamz)

I loved Burgess Meredith.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (JFO2v)

73 Portrait of a particularly troubled Frenchmen. You can almost hear the voices in his head.

Posted by: goon at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (PEcU2)

74 I toured Fountainbleau a few years ago. Pretty gorgeous.

Nowadays, the main business in town seems to be INSEAD, the business school, which is just a block or so away from the palace.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (LISuA)

75

EM ATTAQUER FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at May 03, 2018 09:37 AM (mPeei)

76
You'd think that in all his travels he would've captured a wig.

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 09:29 AM (fdo2c)

I have a wig for my wig. Jealous?

Posted by: Zombie George Washington at May 03, 2018 09:38 AM (XWkhW)

77 Alternate title: The Penguin in Repose

Just needs an umbrella.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (/wamz)

Which reminds... given that Danny DeVito is our greatest living actor, and made a brilliant Penguin in a terrible Batman movie, why did no one pen a decent comedy about Napoleon, when DeVito was younger, so he could star in it?

What a lost opportunity.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (9chmE)

78 quick, bring me brown pants!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (JFO2v)

79 This one is a direct response to David's majestic "Napoleon Crossing the Alps":

Heh. That's quite a contrast.

Did Napoleon sit for Delaroche for today's drawing? Did he know that Delaroche hated him?

This one looks like an accurate portrait of a megalomaniac after a set-back. It looks as if Nappy sat for it. But why would he if he knew Delaroche was skewering him?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (fuK7c)

80 The British after Waterloo, and up until WWII, thought of Napoleon as a horrible dictator/tyrant, the worst of the worst.

Hitler changed their minds. Nowadays Napoleon B. doesn't look so bad.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (QYQV7)

81 14 His combover needs work.
Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:26 AM (oMtOd)

15 That comb-over needs a little work.
Posted by: BignJames at May 03, 2018 09:27 AM (0+nbW)

Lastest example that the Horde mind cogitates collectively, but also frequently does so in simultaneous synchrony.

Now "combover" vs "comb-over" - the hyphen war begins.

Posted by: mindful webworker - luxuriantly hirsute at May 03, 2018 09:40 AM (a2vo1)

82 Incredibly, when you click in on his face in the painting, you get a real sense of his personal intensity. The painter captured him beautifully.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 09:40 AM (LISuA)

83 Naps looks a little chunky there. Too much cake?

Maybe hes all hepped up on whiffs of that old grapeshot? I think thats fwech version of goofballs.

Anyhoo....where did his medals go? Trophies for some English Corporal?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 03, 2018 09:40 AM (RW1Sg)

84 Napoleon never would have passed the weigh in or PRT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 09:41 AM (Lg2h/)

85 Anyone notice how the artist arranged things in such a way as the patterns on the wallpaper put a crown on N.'s head? And he is also "crowned" with laurels. Delaroche is mocking him. This is a nice example of the aesthetic element of composition.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:41 AM (OyyDO)

86 Short Man's Complex.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:41 AM (2LelM)

87 Napoleon: "I hope you're at least sending me somewhere nice like Club Med."

France: "Sorta"

Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2018 09:42 AM (G0vdT)

88 Holy crap! I bet Pelosi will her brown pants after the CNBC headline:
Jobless claims rise modestly; Americans receiving unemployment aid lowest since 1973!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:42 AM (JFO2v)

89 I'm thinking Congress and the bureaucracy could use a strong dose of Robbespierre about now.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 09:42 AM (rzlnk)

90 Tomorrow's painting: Napoleon on a White Ottoman...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (cApiC)

91 Napoleon Bonaparte?

******

Keep On Rollin' - a limerick

The baker's assistant he got a bad start
His boss found him once with his dick in a tart
He liked his sticky buns
And thought donut holes were fun
Then one day they caught him boning a pull-apart

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (mvenn)

92 Napoleon was a genius whether you think it was evil or not. His Napoleonic Code was also groundbreaking.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (5AX1G)

93
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (cApiC)

CBD wouldn't do that, would he?

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (suO/a)

94 Will no barista deliver the Emperor of France a Venti pumpkin spice latte?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (hyuyC)

95
His salad came with ranch dressing instead of the balsamic vinagrete he asked for.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (BWL+E)

96 "Naps looks a little chunky there. Too much cake?"

Too much margarine on his canned vegetables.

(Both invented to feed his armies.)

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 09:44 AM (cApiC)

97 Never trust a guy with one polished boot.

Posted by: goon at May 03, 2018 09:44 AM (PEcU2)

98 David's majestic "Napoleon Crossing the Alps"

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Too bad David is dead. He couldda done some bodacious Hillary portraits.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 09:44 AM (+y/Ru)

99 Gotta say, if ya gotta get banished, Elba looks pretty sweet.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:44 AM (oVJmc)

100
The repo guys are there for his throne.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2018 09:45 AM (BWL+E)

101
58 Able was I ere I saw Elba.
Posted by: Yppan at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (9chmE)

60 Able was I ere I saw Elba.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:34 AM (JFO2v)

Okay, that was a bit surprising, even for Horde hivemindedness.

Posted by: mindful webworker - madam i'm adam at May 03, 2018 09:45 AM (a2vo1)

102 If Delaroche wanted to portray a final and grudging defeat, he suceeded. The symbols and colors of power are there but are now dusty and tarnished. Napoleon's figure, previously shown as fit and imperial which the viewers would remember, is slumped, tired, and no longer young and fit. But there is still a spark of fire and steel in his eyes. He had to bow to the inevitable but it isn't total despair. I find it an evocative, powerful image.

Looking at some of Delaroch's other works on Wiki, they are impressive. They also have a feel of illustration. I wonder if he was an influence on Wyeth and others of that period.

Thanks, CBD. An interesting painting and artist.

Posted by: JTB at May 03, 2018 09:45 AM (V+03K)

103 Holy crap! I bet Pelosi will her brown pants after the CNBC headline:

After? Before, and during.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 03, 2018 09:45 AM (oVJmc)

104 You should devote an hour of your life to watching a brilliant eccentric, Lindybeige, rant about Napoleon's greatest foe:

https://youtu.be/jdM3ID4m38U

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:45 AM (fuK7c)

105 Napolean dressed as a cavalry colonel. Aside from being a megalomaniac, he was somewhat Trumpish in outlook.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 09:45 AM (rzlnk)

106 Fun fact: Burgess Meredith was married to Paulette Goddard.

https://tinyurl.com/y8erqnlc

https://tinyurl.com/yc5w3xb4 (NSFW)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 09:46 AM (kqsXK)

107 I read some military based review , rating the generals in a qualitative way, quantified.

Napoleon was rated #1

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:46 AM (Ymy4N)

108 Holy crap! I bet Pelosi will her brown pants after the CNBC headline:
Jobless claims rise modestly; Americans receiving unemployment aid lowest since 1973!
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 03, 2018 09:42 AM (JFO2v)

I think the deep and palpable sense of personal betrayal and disgust she displays whenever she hears news that benefits ordinary people is her most endearing trait. All the rest of them are even worse.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 03, 2018 09:46 AM (y87Qq)

109
Heh. That's quite a contrast.

Did Napoleon sit for Delaroche for today's drawing? Did he know that Delaroche hated him?

This one looks like an accurate portrait of a megalomaniac after a
set-back. It looks as if Nappy sat for it. But why would he if he knew
Delaroche was skewering him?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (fuK7c)
This was painted in 1846. Napoleon was long dead by then. In France, around this time, there was a Bonapartist revival. Delaroche could be reacting to that. I know JMW Turner painted this one because of it: https://tinyurl.com/yczgx759

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:46 AM (OyyDO)

110 So what year did that palindrome come out? I'm a bit north of 29 and never heard of it.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (suO/a)

111 Wonderful article from the Independent, featuring this painting, and covering the "Strange Journey Of Napoleon's Penis"

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9ucgw7p

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (LISuA)

112 The British after Waterloo, and up until WWII, thought of Napoleon as a horrible dictator/tyrant, the worst of the worst.

Hitler changed their minds. Nowadays Napoleon B. doesn't look so bad.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (QYQV7)

You should research what his Army and his government planned to do with Haiti to reconquer it and to hold it again as a giant slave operated sugar plantation.

The Saint-Domingue Expedition under Leclerc.

Made the war in the Vendee look almost normal

Posted by: Kindltot at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2K6fY)

113 107 I read some military based review , rating the generals in a qualitative way, quantified.

Napoleon was rated #1
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I'd put Hannibal at #1

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

114 They say an army marches on its stomach. I'd say Nappy's good for a march to Timbuktu and back.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (+y/Ru)

115 Napoleon was a genius whether you think it was evil or not. His Napoleonic Code was also groundbreaking.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (5AX1G)

Well yeah. In order for a psychopath to achieve greatness (or near greatness), they must be a genius, with "some good ideas." Otherwise, they just end up in prison with the rest of their lot.
Stalin, Hilter, Mao... hell, if you want to go there, Bill Clinton. These guys were/are smart men. Very smart. They were NOT always wrong, and they were able to get decent people to miss the evil... some of the time, at least.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (9chmE)

116 Somehow this has to be incorporated into a Downfall video.

Posted by: Editor at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (3A6kT)

117 90 Tomorrow's painting: Napoleon on a White Ottoman...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 09:43 AM (cApiC)

What really happened during the Egyptian Campaign

Posted by: josephistan at May 03, 2018 09:48 AM (7HtZB)

118 Okay, that was a bit surprising, even for Horde hivemindedness.
Posted by: mindful webworker
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They've got it, coming or going.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 09:48 AM (5IJky)

119 Nappy's thinking, "If only I hadn't been a capitalist."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (+y/Ru)

120 What really happened during the Egyptian Campaign
Posted by: josephistan
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Spoiler: The Sphinx takes it on the nose.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (5IJky)

121 I read some military based review , rating the generals in a qualitative way, quantified.

Napoleon was rated #1

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I'd put Hannibal at #1

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

Alexander.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (9chmE)

122 106 Fun fact: Burgess Meredith was married to Paulette Goddard.

Almost everyone was married to Paulette. And if they weren't married, they lived with her. Ad if they didn't live with her, they were boning her. #metoo

She lost out playing Scarlet cause she couldn't come up with a marriage certificate showing her and Chaplin were married.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (Ymy4N)

123 Stalin, Hilter, Mao... hell, if you want to go there, Bill Clinton. These guys were/are smart men. Very smart. They were NOT always wrong, and they were able to get decent people to miss the evil... some of the time, at least.
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Napoleon cleaned up the evil that was the French Revolution.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (2LelM)

124
Which reminds... given that Danny DeVito is our greatest living actor, and made a brilliant Penguin in a terrible Batman movie, why did no one pen a decent comedy about Napoleon, when DeVito was younger, so he could star in it?

What a lost opportunity.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (9chmE)

Like this billboard from Get Shorty?

http://tinyurl.com/y9zd2y9f

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (XWkhW)

125 Dude, do you even do sit-ups?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (ATVNj)

126 Who was running France while Napoleon was off campaigning, which he was doing pretty much non stop for about 15 years?

Posted by: josephistan at May 03, 2018 09:50 AM (7HtZB)

127 Julius Caesar without a doubt

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 09:50 AM (rzlnk)

128 Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (9chmE)

Napoleon was the opposite of the people you listed.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 09:50 AM (5AX1G)

129 FLT:
293 Did anyone get a chance to review that footage of the Air Natl Guard crash yesterday?"

I looked at it, and to me it looks like a total engine failure at low speed and low altitude, which is always fatal. The unusual part is that it looks like both engines on the left side must have shut down together. You can see the plane start to stall, then the left wing drops, and as it drops the wings go vertical, they lose all remaining lift and the plane falls like a rock.

Someone said online that the pilot tried to avoid cars - bullshit, the cars just got lucky. Not to mean any disrespect towards the pilot or crew, but once that plane went nose down it was just a chunk of metal falling out of the sky, no one on board had anything to do with where it landed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 09:50 AM (V2Yro)

130 My first cell phone was $100 a month for 1(one) whole hour of phone time. This was in 1989-1990 money. No data, didn't exist yet.

Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 09:51 AM (9iLHi)

131
121 I read some military based review , rating the generals in a qualitative way, quantified.

Napoleon was rated #1

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I'd put Hannibal at #1

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

Alexander.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (9chmE)

He would be my #2. He mostly conquered smaller fry, one at a time. Hannibal hammered Rome in its own back yard.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:51 AM (2LelM)

132 Art during the Napoleonic Wars is an interesting study. The competing styles of Neoclassicism and Romanticism take sides, and it could be argued that Napoleon (and David) almost single-highhandedly destroyed Neoclassicism's influence in Western art.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:52 AM (OyyDO)

133 Which reminds... given that Danny DeVito is our greatest living actor

He's short, fat and bald; the antithesis of the stereotype of the Hollywood actor and think of all the roles he's played over the years and he nailed every one.

And let's not forget Louie of Taxi.

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 09:52 AM (fdo2c)

134 So what year did that palindrome come out? I'm a bit north of 29 and never heard of it.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (suO/a)

The internets says 1848, someone called J.T.R.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:52 AM (9chmE)

135 I'd put Hannibal at #1
Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

Pretty sure I saw Hannibal open for Capua in 212 bc

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:53 AM (Ymy4N)

136 And what the hell is a Forever First Lady?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 03, 2018 09:53 AM (+Tibp)

137 Hannibal was a pufter.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 09:53 AM (rzlnk)

138 Napoleon may be the most interesting man in history. Every good thing you could say about him, you can find something bad to balance that out.

Posted by: josephistan at May 03, 2018 09:54 AM (7HtZB)

139 Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:39 AM (9chmE)

Like this billboard from Get Shorty?

http://tinyurl.com/y9zd2y9f

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (XWkhW)

Holy smokes! And no one ever actually did it??

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:54 AM (9chmE)

140 137 Hannibal was a pufter.
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You're confusing Alexander and Julius with Hannibal. Hannibal was a Numidian, not a Greek/Roman pederast.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:54 AM (2LelM)

141 Almost everyone was married to Paulette. And if they weren't married, they lived with her. Ad if they didn't live with her, they were boning her. #metoo

There's a story somewhere about an actress sneering to Goddard's face that she was in a particular restaurant when Goddard crawled under the table to orally service one of her dates, using the story to deflate her pretensions.

I don't know where I read it, couldn't find it if I wanted to and won't try because it would only depress me even more than I already am.

Which, of course, begs the question of why I even mentioned it in the first place.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (kqsXK)

142 Looks like Ben Shapiro in a huff.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (r9UYA)

143 135
I'd put Hannibal at #1

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

Hannibal would definitely be put in my A-team.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (OyyDO)

144 But his plans are toast.
Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 09:35 AM (bUjCl)
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French toast.

The kind that some people put butter and salt on.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (oMtOd)

145 Uh, Eisenhower managed the greatest military assault in history. Just saying.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (5IJky)

146 And what the hell is a Forever First Lady?

An ambulatory anal chancre.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (kqsXK)

147 I think Napoleon was close to 5' 7" so not as short as the meme makes him.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 09:56 AM (5AX1G)

148 130 My first cell phone was $100 a month for 1(one) whole hour of phone time. This was in 1989-1990 money. No data, didn't exist yet.
Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 09:51 AM (9iLHi)

Back in the 90's I had corded motorola pack phone. I would use it when I was at an auction to be able to phone bid at other auctions. It was expensive

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:56 AM (Ymy4N)

149 Ugh. The coffee still has a very bitter aftertaste. Cleaned it, the water tastes fine, new bag of coffee...

Cheap new maker from Walmart I guess.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 03, 2018 09:56 AM (mtfdF)

150 Alternate NSFW Paulette Goddard, for the sake of completionism:

https://bit.ly/2JRoEht

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (fuK7c)

151 Really pulling off the 8 year old sent to time out.

Posted by: DaveM at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (WWC3Y)

152 Alexander.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (9chmE)

He would be my #2. He mostly conquered smaller fry, one at a time. Hannibal hammered Rome in its own back yard.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:51 AM (2LelM)

I really don't know enough about Hannibal (except the town in Missouri). Alexander, at the time he took on the Persians, was outnumbered at a time when I believe Persia was considered the greatest power in the world. His generalship was the thing that made it happen. Tactics and strategy.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (9chmE)

153 Caesar wasn't a fag.
Also, see: The Battle of Alesia

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (rzlnk)

154 I'd put Hannibal at #1

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM) "

Even in Roman times, it was said that Hannibal knew how to win a battle, but he didn't know how to win a war. He had the chance to march on Rome and end the war conclusively after Cannae; but he declined and let the Romans eventually build another army.

Alexander.

Yep - no one tops Alexander, although he only beats out Ghengis and his generals on style points.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (V2Yro)

155 Did anyone get a chance to review that footage of the Air Natl Guard crash yesterday?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 09:50 AM
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Do you have a link for that? I tried three different ones and all three say "video removed."

Now this has really piqued my curiosity because someone on the last thread said you could see a missile type object coming from the left side of screen just before the plane/engine blew up.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (HiDrR)

156 Almost everyone was married to Paulette. And if they weren't married, they lived with her. Ad if they didn't live with her, they were boning her. #metoo
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An earlier version of Grace Slick?

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 09:58 AM (5IJky)

157 Pretty sure I saw Hannibal open for Capua in 212 bc
Posted by: REDACTED

Vic did.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 09:58 AM (2ifxQ)

158 147
I think Napoleon was close to 5' 7" so not as short as the meme makes him.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 09:56 AM (5AX1G)
From what I read, Napoleon was average height for a Frenchman. The British came up with the short meme as propaganda, as the average Brit was taller. It was a way to ridicule him.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:58 AM (OyyDO)

159 Poppins: ...Paulette Goddard. ...
https://tinyurl.com/yc5w3xb4 (NSFW)...

I like that. Nice pose. Nice posture. Proof that a gal can look lovely without bowling ball bewbs... however, a hula hoop is required.

Posted by: mindful webworker - like looking at the sun at May 03, 2018 09:58 AM (a2vo1)

160 Well, it isn't art.

Nice grain on the panelling, but still not art.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (CPk08)

161 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday.

NO battery cars for you!

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (r9UYA)

162 Looks like the Emperor's got a case of the Mondays...

Posted by: sinalco at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (yODqO)

163 I think Napoleon was close to 5' 7" so not as short as the meme makes him.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 09:56 AM (5AX1G)

Yep. And the same meme has been around forever. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, as they say.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (y87Qq)

164 Mornin' Horde.

Funny thing on the morning commute, one of those electronic billboards had as its message, "Nate! Your wife knows..."

Nate is screwed, methinks. Whoever Nate is.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (AM1GF)

165 I don't know a lot of military history, but I have to think Robert E. Lee gets ranked pretty high.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (OyyDO)

166 http://bit.ly/2pzN8nS
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Preparing for The Inspector General Report on The FBI Investigation of Hillary Clinton - CTH

Posted by: JoshBarroquette at May 03, 2018 10:00 AM (y3aQB)

167 Alexander. What's purple and conquers the known ancient world?

Posted by: I Cried at May 03, 2018 10:00 AM (loZXu)

168 I guess those Paulette Goddard pics are from the early days of Hollywood; before they could afford costumes.

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 10:00 AM (fdo2c)

169 Alternate NSFW Paulette Goddard, for the sake of completionism:

https://bit.ly/2JRoEht

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 09:57 AM (fuK7c)

I'll see you and raise you full frontal:

https://tinyurl.com/ybx8s7gt

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 10:00 AM (kqsXK)

170 I'm a little dictator
Short and stout
Here is my army
Here is my knout
When I get all steamed up
I just shout
Tip me over and impeach me out

Posted by: Boney Napoleon, D-Corsica at May 03, 2018 10:00 AM (Bqoi/)

171 I really don't know enough about Hannibal (except the town in Missouri). Alexander, at the time he took on the Persians, was outnumbered at a time when I believe Persia was considered the greatest power in the world. His generalship was the thing that made it happen. Tactics and strategy.
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Persia was a mile wide and inch deep multicultural kingdom. And Cyrus the Great was dead by then.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:00 AM (2LelM)

172 Napoleon never got a Downfall video the way Hipler did. Julius Caesar doesn't need one because he was stabbed repeatedly.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 10:01 AM (rnAwa)

173 My first cell phone was $100 a month for 1(one) whole hour of phone time. This was in 1989-1990 money. No data, didn't exist yet.

What's the use case for that? You'd regularly have one important phone call a month, away from a landline?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:01 AM (iv0p7)

174 "Hannibal hammered Rome in its own back yard."

Hannibal fought the opposing commanders more than the opposing troops.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 10:01 AM (cApiC)

175 Paul Simon stewing over Garfunkel's height?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 03, 2018 10:01 AM (FTlwv)

176 Horde hive mind example #3 - same thought, different forms

21 Hitler video in 3, 2, 1...
Posted by: Dr Alice at May 03, 2018 09:28 AM (LaT54)

116 Somehow this has to be incorporated into a Downfall video.
Posted by: Editor at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (3A6kT)

Posted by: mindful webworker - beehive yourselves at May 03, 2018 10:01 AM (a2vo1)

177 Looks like Dennis Hopper.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (IqV8l)

178 Did anyone get a chance to review that footage of the Air Natl Guard crash yesterday?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 09:50 AM
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Do you have a link for that? I tried three different ones and all three say "video removed."

Now this has really piqued my curiosity because someone on the last thread said you could see a missile type object coming from the left side of screen just before the plane/engine blew up.

Posted by: IrishEi

I did find it odd there was a delay of several seconds between "lose sight of aircraft below horizon" and "see smoke and fire from presumed crash"...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (AM1GF)

179 I note that none of the 'ettes have said they would not hit it.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (sjdRT)

180 You probably know the story of Beethoven's third symphony, the Heroic. Ludwig resented the fact that the aristocracy had luxury and power based upon nothing but an accident of birth while a genius such as himself (he wasn't shy) had to beg them for crumbs so he worshipped the French cutting edge approach to the aristocracy. Accordingly he dedicated his third symphony to man-of-the-people Napoleon. But then Nappy went and elevated himself to Emperor revealing himself to be a hypocrite (not to mention besieging Ludwig's home of Vienna) so he scratched out the dedication and it became the generic Heroic Symphony.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (+y/Ru)

181 I don't know a lot of military history, but I have to think Robert E. Lee gets ranked pretty high.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (OyyDO)

Bill Sherman....love him/hate him, he got the job done.

Posted by: BignJames at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (0+nbW)

182 Patton!!!!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:03 AM (rzlnk)

183 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday.

NO battery cars for you!

Elon might have to give up the coin-operated Hollywood starlets.

Posted by: JEM at May 03, 2018 10:03 AM (B5R2a)

184 153 Caesar wasn't a fag.
Also, see: The Battle of Alesia
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Yeah, like most of Roman Aristocracy, he was a little boy crazy. Dittos Alexander. The joke was he had slept with every soldier in his army.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:03 AM (2LelM)

185 >>Did anyone get a chance to review that footage of the Air Natl Guard crash yesterday?"
Posted by: Tom Servo

Local commie news ran the clip this morning and I was watching for a missile or something. Didn't notice one on the 4K screen.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:03 AM (r9UYA)

186 Paul Simon stewing over Garfunkel's height?

******

Now THAT'S Art!

(Besides, he just seems taller. It's mostly the hairstyle)

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:03 AM (mvenn)

187 I'll see you and raise you full frontal:

https://tinyurl.com/ybx8s7gt
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Leggy chicka.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (2ifxQ)

188 Hannibal fought the opposing commanders more than the opposing troops.

They kept stepping in elephant shit.

Posted by: JT at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (fdo2c)

189 Hannibal fought the opposing commanders more than the opposing troops.

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Yeah, well, he doesn't have a salad named after him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

190 I note that none of the 'ettes have said they would not hit it.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (sjdRT)
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Some things don't need to be said.

I've never heard you say that about Hillary, either.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (oMtOd)

191 I'll see you and raise you full frontal:

Well played, sir.

This is just to stay in the game while I consult my sources.

https://bit.ly/2FDvCo5

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (fuK7c)

192 123 Stalin, Hilter, Mao... hell, if you want to go there, Bill Clinton. These guys were/are smart men. Very smart. They were NOT always wrong, and they were able to get decent people to miss the evil... some of the time, at least.
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Napoleon cleaned up the evil that was the French Revolution.
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Napoleon's dictatorship was the end result of the French Revolution. He was the heroic defender of France, the man of the hour who would restore law and order and be the true leader of the people. Somehow the Left never learned this lesson.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (W+kMI)

193 My first cell phone was $100 a month for 1(one) whole hour of phone time. This was in 1989-1990 money. No data, didn't exist yet.

What's the use case for that? You'd regularly have one important phone call a month, away from a landline?
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I use to work nights in the bar business. It was for emergencies. I had an old car so if I broke down or something.

Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (9iLHi)

194 He looks like Ben Shapiro, except a little older and fatter.

Probably a #NeverTrumper as well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 03, 2018 09:25 AM (0ogQG)

HAHAHAHA!! Thread winner!

Posted by: Charlotte the sailor at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (2Pd3s)

195 I have decided that I identify as Napoleon Bonaparte.

I demand that you pay for my Imperial Guard.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (T09ml)

196 >>I don't know a lot of military history, but I have to think Robert E. Lee gets ranked pretty high.

>>Bill Sherman....love him/hate him, he got the job done.

I see where this is headed.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (/tuJf)

197 Some things don't need to be said.

I've never heard you say that about Hillary, either.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (oMtOd)

I would not, could not, hit that bitch
Not even with a nine foot switch.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (CPk08)

198 Partial shine-box fail?
Little, tiny persons, heh. This and Rahm and JKM (he of pink houses)

Posted by: micky at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (dF9Lb)

199 7 Bad day in Fontainebleau!
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I can sympathize a little with Napoleon here, having had a few days of my own that left me in that sort of pose.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 10:05 AM (W+kMI)

200 it would only depress me even more than I already am.

Eh? Why does that story affect you so?

Also, are you alright?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:06 AM (iv0p7)

201 "Yeah, well, he doesn't have a salad named after him."

No one ever visits Caesar, Missouri...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 10:06 AM (cApiC)

202 You're confusing Alexander and Julius with Hannibal. Hannibal was a Numidian, not a Greek/Roman pederast.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:54 AM (2LelM)
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I thought Hannibal was Carthaginian, but famous for using Numidian cavalry.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 10:06 AM (LISuA)

203
Alexander Suvorov
Josef Radetzky

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2018 10:06 AM (BWL+E)

204 Napoleon cleaned up the evil that was the French Revolution.
Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (2LelM)

Whatevs........

Posted by: Spanish victims of Napoleon at May 03, 2018 10:07 AM (Bqoi/)

205 Bandersnatch & MPPP

That is a lot of nudity for the 1920s. When she was in the Ziegfeld Follies?

Are we becoming more puritanical than our great-grandmas?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:07 AM (hyuyC)

206 French toast.

The kind that some people put butter and salt on.
Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:55 AM (oMtOd)

that was the craziest thing I've heard... in a while. who would want to mutilate a nice piece of bread like that ...

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 10:07 AM (bUjCl)

207 I consider Ulysses S. Grant to be the superior strategist. Sherman's march was the longest flanking maneuver in military history.

Those who don't know history are doomed to be reactionary alt-leftists.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (T09ml)

208 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday.

NO battery cars for you!
Posted by: Under Fire
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It's almost as if he's been propped up by subsidies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (5IJky)

209 70
Why did he make him look like Peter Boyle

Posted by: WSMS at May 03, 2018 09:36 AM (RWqIB)

Haha!

Posted by: Danny Devito at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (ymnmz)

210 I thought Hannibal was Carthaginian, but famous for using Numidian cavalry.
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Carthaginians are Phoenicians = look like Lebanese. Hannibal was Numidian = look like black Caucasians. Do a wiki and check out his busts.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (2LelM)

211 OK, MP4, your full frontal cannot be improved upon.

This is a nice quality shot from the same session:

https://bit.ly/2w94Iov

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 10:09 AM (fuK7c)

212 I'll see you and raise you full frontal:

Some of the later ones in that gallery have her looking exactly like SNL's Molly Shannon

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 10:09 AM (ZpfqO)

213 Forgive me, father, for I am willowed...

411 Show us on Mrs Beasley where Mr French touched you.

IMHO, French, and you, are both just passive-aggressive advocates for President Choom Boy and his designated successor, Frau Felonia von Pantsuit de Bourbon. By the standards you try to apply to Trump, you can't prove your innocence.

Let me ask... what's so goddamn important that you have to defend the bloody Iran deal, to help arm a Soviet proxy with nuclear weapons, just to punish us for voting for a guy who banged a porn star?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:09 AM (CoKlX)

214 It was for emergencies. I had an old car so if I broke down or something.

Makes sense. How was reception back then?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:09 AM (iv0p7)

215
Those who don't know history are doomed to be reactionary alt-leftists.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (T09ml)

"Real communism has never been tried!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 03, 2018 10:10 AM (BWL+E)

216 I've never heard you say that about Hillary, either.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (oMtOd)

Here I lay, drunk, pasty-pale, and *hic* READY!!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 03, 2018 10:10 AM (Bqoi/)

217 52 Just a little, very important tidbit.

Nappy and I have the same B-day

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 09:33 AM (Ymy4N)

But not the same as mine (which is today).

However, he did die 2 days later.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 03, 2018 10:10 AM (XMDuf)

218 Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (2LelM)

His father was Carthaginian.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 10:10 AM (5AX1G)

219 "Yeah, well, he doesn't have a salad named after him."
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Who cares?

*pours a morning brandy *

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (5IJky)

220 maybe someone who mistakes stuffing ...for dressing...

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (bUjCl)

221 204
Napoleon cleaned up the evil that was the French Revolution.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (2LelM)

Whatevs........

Posted by: Spanish victims of Napoleon at May 03, 2018 10:07 AM (Bqoi/)

This:https://tinyurl.com/y8du7bxu

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (OyyDO)

222 Huh. A long discussion of generals and no mention, yet, of Scipio, who actually beat Hannibal and the Carthaginians.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (CoKlX)

223 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday.

********

To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, eventually you run out of other people's extension cords.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (mvenn)

224 Yeah, like most of Roman Aristocracy, he was a little boy crazy. Dittos Alexander. The joke was he had slept with every soldier in his army.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:03 AM (2LelM)

It was said of Caesar that he was every woman's husband and every man's wife.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (kqsXK)

225 Are we becoming more puritanical than our great-grandmas?

Posted by: NaCly Dog

Have you listened to pop music of the era? It may not have been as explicit as some of what's aired now, but a good bit was pretty damn ribald...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 03, 2018 10:12 AM (AM1GF)

226 216 Hillary Clinton

☣ Shudder ☣

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:12 AM (hyuyC)

227 Huh. A long discussion of generals and no mention, yet, of Scipio, who actually beat Hannibal and the Carthaginians.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:11 AM (CoKlX)

Al Pacino was great in that role.

Posted by: BignJames at May 03, 2018 10:12 AM (0+nbW)

228 I thought Hannibal was Carthaginian, but famous for using Numidian cavalry.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 10:06 AM (LISuA

Yes. The Carthaginians were from Phoenicia originally. And Scipio finally beat Hannibal.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at May 03, 2018 10:13 AM (hLRSq)

229 Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone

Thank you. I may have to educate myself.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:13 AM (hyuyC)

230 Hannibal was destroyed by an egret feather

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:13 AM (rzlnk)

231 153 Caesar wasn't a fag.
Also, see: The Battle of Alesia

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Julius Caesar according to a contemporary was "every woman's husband and every man's wife." That seems rather sweeping, but the implication is that he got around a lot in his younger days. Then again, as a charismatic member of the Roman elite he could screw whomever he wanted whenever he wanted, and they would like it and beg for more.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 10:13 AM (W+kMI)

232 NO battery cars for you!
Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (r9UYA)

Hutto and Taylor (TX) were bidding on a battery plant, so maybe they dodged a bullet

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 10:13 AM (suO/a)

233 Yeah, like most of Roman Aristocracy, he was a little boy crazy. Dittos Alexander. The joke was he had slept with every soldier in his army.

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Caesar's political opponents said that he was every woman's man and every man's woman. I guess they had hired Fusion GPS.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)

234 >>Yes. The Carthaginians were from Phoenicia originally. And Scipio finally beat Hannibal.

And then Maximus kicked his ass.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 03, 2018 10:14 AM (/tuJf)

235 I also submit Belisarius to the General hall-of-fame. (Not one of David's better paintings, tho.)

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 10:14 AM (OyyDO)

236 Have you listened to pop music of the era? It may not have been as explicit as some of what's aired now, but a good bit was pretty damn ribald...

******

Mississippi John Hurt:

♫♪

Red Rooster says
Cock-a-doodle doo doo
Rich Ladies say
Any cock'll do.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:14 AM (mvenn)

237 "Yeah, well, he doesn't have a salad named after him."
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Who cares?

*pours a morning brandy *
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Have a delicious pastry.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 03, 2018 10:15 AM (FTlwv)

238 Genghis Khan for the win.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:15 AM (hyuyC)

239 Hannibal liked Fava beans and a nice Chianti

Posted by: runner at May 03, 2018 10:15 AM (bUjCl)

240 Let me ask... what's so goddamn important...
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Maintaining political control, influence, power, money. Everything is secondary to that, including the well-being of the Republic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:16 AM (5IJky)

241 I'm thinking about becoming an evangelical just so Trump's E-support will rise

Posted by: REDACTED at May 03, 2018 10:16 AM (Ymy4N)

242 Carthaginians are Phoenicians = look like Lebanese. Hannibal was
Numidian = look like black Caucasians. Do a wiki and check out his
busts.
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Wiki, for whats it is worth says he was Carthaginian and pictures him as sort of Greek. But I'll keep looking.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 10:16 AM (LISuA)

243 Mississippi John Hurt:

Any cock'll do.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:14 AM (mvenn)

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Ha. I've only heard him sing "any dude'll do." Where is this one?

Posted by: Michael Obama at May 03, 2018 10:16 AM (VgKNm)

244 "I thought Hannibal was Carthaginian, but famous for using Numidian cavalry."

Yes. And his infantry was primarily Spanish with Gauls as his auxilliaries. And he had slingers from various islands around the western Med.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 10:16 AM (cApiC)

245 That is a lot of nudity for the 1920s. When she was in the Ziegfeld Follies?

Are we becoming more puritanical than our great-grandmas?

Yes. She and many other subsequently prominent girls were Ziegfield Girls.

A photographer named Alfred Cheney Johnson took really good pics of a lot of them nekkid.

Culture and economy can go hand in hand. The 20s were a great era of wealth, frivolity, and sex. When things went to shit the culture became prudish.

The Hayes Code (censorship) was passed in 1932 but not enforced until 1934. The second Tarzan movie, Tarzan and His Mate, had Maureen O'Sullivan running around basically naked and her body double swimming actually naked. In later movies she had a dress a Mohammedan would approve of.

Sex and nudity were basically banned until the 50s (in magazines, Playboy) and sixties (movies, starting with the French and Scandis).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 10:16 AM (fuK7c)

246 Al Pacino was great in that role.

Hey, that reminds me, Brian Dehenny was great as Elba.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:17 AM (CoKlX)

247 If we are going way back, Alcibiades was pretty good though you never knew whose side he would end up on.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 10:17 AM (5AX1G)

248 Shudder
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:12 AM (hyuyC)

DUDE......don't knock it......but I sure will!

https://tinyurl.com/y7wh6btt

Posted by: Charlie Sheen #Winning at May 03, 2018 10:17 AM (Bqoi/)

249 His guitar talking out the Casey Jones story is great, too. It's neat how you know it's supposed to be Jones saying "g*d damn them sheep."

Posted by: Michael Obama at May 03, 2018 10:17 AM (VgKNm)

250 Ah yes, Napoleon at Miami Beach.

Fontainebleau Hilton was never the same after that...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 03, 2018 10:18 AM (7LY+6)

251 So in the 2020s, with President Trump's second term, we can expect a great era of wealth, frivolity, and sex?

I'm in.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:18 AM (hyuyC)

252 Darn socks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (VgKNm)

253 Lesson: Don't invade Russia without winter clothing.

Posted by: William Eaton at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (MuTTO)

254 Do you have a link for that? I tried three different ones and all three say "video removed."

You're right, it was everywhere yesterday, but not so much today. I found a copy of it on the WaPo, but hate to give them the link. I think that means someone with big media bucks bought the rights to it fast and is shutting it down everywhere else. (Damn you, Bezos!)

But I saw nothing like a "fast moving object" in the video I saw. Maybe some debris coming from an engine as it fell, may have shed a prop. But it's easy to see that the plane has lost most of its thrust as it begins to fall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (V2Yro)

255 Ha. I've only heard him sing "any dude'll do." Where is this one?

*******

You're correct. I misquoted him. I thought of that as I hit "Post"

I think the original 'live' lyrics were as I posted, not that I have a citation. Actually fits the rhythm of the song better than "dude"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (mvenn)

256
Of no earth shaking import, just noticed in my "news cruise" done each morning that Hotair seems to have deleted their comment section in toto.

No more in house comment section at all. I don't FB or Twitter, so I can't say if the rest of the comment venue was altered.

Their diminishing value as a news aggregator has further dwindled, so they are now off the bookmarks.

Shame, I used to occasionally post when Malkin owned it and Bryan Preston
blogged there.

Once WAS a decent place.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (S/hVx)

257
Napoleon was rated #1
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I'd put Hannibal at #1
Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

Military caliber wars? Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: RI Red - not a chicken at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (8/FKB)

258 Thank you Bandersnatch. Something to live for.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (hyuyC)

259 Wiki, for whats it is worth says he was Carthaginian and pictures him as sort of Greek. But I'll keep looking.
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The Carthaginian handle just tells you his nationality, not his race. He was Numidian. His father was a general in the Carthaginian army. Most Phoenician/Carthaginians were involved with maritime pursuits: trading and the navy.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:20 AM (2LelM)

260 "Caesar's political opponents said that he was every woman's man and every man's woman. I guess they had hired Fusion GPS."

Being gay was enough to get you drummed out of public life in Rome, so every notable politician had accusations against them. Caesar was the "Queen of Bythnia" for spending too long getting troops from that allied king, but there was never enough evidence to remove hin from public life.

Generally, the "emperor X liked men and boys" claims have been given the most credence when the emperor was disliked by Romans or Christians. Both disliking an emperor guaranteed the stories lasted...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 10:20 AM (cApiC)

261 Hot Air is a shithole

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:20 AM (rzlnk)

262 I'm suddenly reminded of a great line from the British TV series "Cracker." Cracker's boss shows up at an emergency meeting dressed as Napoleon, explains that he's on his way to a costume party.

Cracker: What are you going as?

Posted by: Dr Alice at May 03, 2018 10:21 AM (LaT54)

263 I liked Nappy's approach during the Rooskie retreat at Austerlitz. Talk about breaking the ice...

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:21 AM (r9UYA)

264 If I made a movie with an older Julius Caesar, I'd have to have Sean Connery in the role and he'd go around saying "Your Mom, Brutus!" a lot.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:22 AM (CoKlX)

265 I read some military based review , rating the generals in a qualitative way, quantified.

Napoleon was rated #1

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I'd put Hannibal at #1

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 09:47 AM (2LelM)

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Alexander.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 03, 2018 09:49 AM (9chmE)

The Duke of Marlborough.

Posted by: HTL at May 03, 2018 10:22 AM (LIZRu)

266 Yes. And his infantry was primarily Spanish with Gauls as his auxilliaries. And he had slingers from various islands around the western Med.
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Yep. And the Spanish tribes paid a gruesome price for allying with Hannibal. Wasn't pretty. Empire never is.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:22 AM (2LelM)

267 Napoleon looks a tad bit grumpy. Must be Monday.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 03, 2018 10:22 AM (sGtp+)

268 I think the original 'live' lyrics were as I posted, not that I have
a citation. Actually fits the rhythm of the song better than "dude"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM (mvenn)

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I was excited. I'm a big fan and have everything I can get my hands on, so I thought there was something I'd missed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:22 AM (VgKNm)

269 Looks like Napoleon haz teh sadz due to an epic combover fail.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 03, 2018 10:22 AM (rdl6o)

270 Eh? Why does that story affect you so?

Also, are you alright?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:06 AM (iv0p7)

**shrugs**

The story bothers me because I wish something like that would happen to me. I'm just depressed for no particular reason today, that's all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 10:23 AM (kqsXK)

271 My cell phone bill was similar to that too--over $100/month for like 90 minutes from AT and T. This was in the early 90's. We had to take call for work (CVOR nurse), and I had it to have it to call back when my pager went off. This was with the hospital's group discount too!

Posted by: runningrn at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (UUnqW)

272 I'd put Hannibal at #1 just for managing to force his opponents to wade an ice-cold river, without having any breakfast, while keeping his troops in bed a little longer and making sure they all had hot breakfasts.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (cApiC)

273 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday.

Did you read the transcript from their earnings conference call? It was bizarre.

Musk lead off the call telling people not to ask "boring" questions. He then berated at least two people who asked relevant questions and called them boring and boneheaded.

Someone raised the question about his semi trucks super optimistic range of 500-600 miles, and he pulled an appeal to authority (I studied physics in college).

He also complained about "day traders" and said he'd rather they just sell his stock. Obviously he's feeling the heat RE his stock performance and is trying to stave off those questions by telling people he's uninterested in pleasing "day traders".

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (iv0p7)

274 The 20s were a great era of wealth, frivolity, and sex"

You mean our ancestor types had...

Sex?

Noooooooooo!!!!!!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (7LY+6)

275 150. Thank you, Bander.

Posted by: RI Red - not a chicken at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (8/FKB)

276 >190
I note that none of the 'ettes have said they would not hit it.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 03, 2018 10:02 AM (sjdRT)

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Some things don't need to be said.

I've never heard you say that about Hillary, either.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 10:04 AM (oMtOd)

That escalated quickly.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (sjdRT)

277 And of course now I'm scouring the youtubes for any live concerts I might've been unaware of. There's worse things to listen to, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (VgKNm)

278 the man of the hour who would restore law and order and be the true leader of the people.

-
Nappy could turn a phrase. He said he took the crown out of the gutter with his sword.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)

279 Morning Mocha says PDT is suffering from long terms affects of an STD.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:25 AM (r9UYA)

280 effects

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:25 AM (r9UYA)

281 Casey's wife, she got the news
She was sittin' on the bedside
Lacing up her shoes.
Go 'way chirren, hold your breath
Your gonna draw a pension now your daddy's dead.

Chirren, chirren, get your hat.
Momma, momma, what you mean by that?
Get your hat, put it on your head.
Go up into town to see if your daddy's dead.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:25 AM (mvenn)

282 279 Morning Mocha says PDT is suffering from long terms affects of an STD.
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I'm pretty sure Mika would know a lot about STDs.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (2LelM)

283 He also complained about "day traders" and said he'd
rather they just sell his stock. Obviously he's feeling the heat RE
his stock performance and is trying to stave off those questions by
telling people he's uninterested in pleasing "day traders".

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:24 AM (iv0p7)

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Wasn't there another fatality recently, too?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (VgKNm)

284 Hot Air is a shithole

And Allahpundit is a total ass. I stopped reading anything he writes because it rarely made sense.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (rdl6o)

285 And Gandalf is a sucker of cock

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (rzlnk)

286 I think that means someone with big media bucks bought the rights to it fast and is shutting it down everywhere else. (Damn you, Bezos!)
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 10:19 AM
~~~~~

You're probably right, but ever since this Coup d'Trump, I am ever closer to becoming a member of the Tin Hat Brigade, and that worries me.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (HiDrR)

287 Get your hat, put it on your head"

You can keep your hat on...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (7LY+6)

288 Another slow work day....
Monday and Tuesday were crazy busy though...

Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 10:27 AM (9iLHi)

289 On Bing home page, the very first "news" article is how someone is accused of being in blackface.

We no longer have news of any variety.

We now have a Soviet-type town square that lists people's real or alleged violations of "Not Being of the Body."

It's fucking insane.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 03, 2018 10:27 AM (vg8iE)

290 That is a lot of nudity for the 1920s. When she was in the Ziegfeld Follies?

Goddard was in Ziegfeld's No Foolin' in 1926 and Rio Rita in 1927.

https://tinyurl.com/yczsku9e

As far as the pictures, they were taken by the Ziegfeld house photographer Alfred Cheney Johnston, who specialized in artistic nudes. Jazz Age Beauties is a collection of his work:

https://tinyurl.com/y6uw64xl

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 10:27 AM (kqsXK)

291 Your coffee addiction by decade: https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybsnmw78

(It's the New Yorker magazine, but even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2018 10:27 AM (ctuyM)

292 223 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday. "

There was an earnings call, which all the Wall Street types take very seriously. Elon Musk refused to answer any of the analyst's financial questions, saying that they were "boring", and instead spent the entire call talking to a fanboy of his who's mainly known for posting YouTube videos about how Wonderful Elon Musk is.

It was not a performance that inspired confidence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 10:27 AM (V2Yro)

293 169. Thank you, mp5.

Posted by: RI Red - not a chicken at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (8/FKB)

294 Someone raised the question about his semi trucks super optimistic range of 500-600 miles

80,000 lbs x 500 miles a day = small, onboard nuke reactor?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (2ifxQ)

295 Mississippi John Hurt has a couple different Casey Jones songs- one with a whole lot of train sounds coming from the guitar. Pretty cool stuff.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (mvenn)

296 Elon Musk refused to answer any of the analyst's financial questions

Crap. This is bad timing for me.

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (nBBdT)

297 Burgess must have been packing a big rig to snag Goddard. He wasn't your leading man type.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (5AX1G)

298 Hannibal was destroyed by an egret feather Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:13 AM (rzlnk)

Wrong, he died with no egrets.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 10:30 AM (rnAwa)

299 On Bing home page, the very first "news" article is how someone is accused of being in blackface.

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I recently saw that Saturday Night Live has a "Black Jeopardy" skit that reinforces the criminal, credit risks, fried chicken, watermelon, etc. stereotypes of ALL black people (Black Jeopardy, remember), but nothing to see there, folks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:30 AM (VgKNm)

300 Morning Mocha says PDT is suffering from long terms affects of an STD.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:25 AM (r9UYA)

What?

Man, they are getting desperate.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at May 03, 2018 10:30 AM (hLRSq)

301 >>Did you read the transcript from their earnings confe rence call? It was bizarre.

I did, and it was bizarre from someone that should be explaining why his deliveries are way off the mark. The company my Under Wife works for (Panasonic) has a big battery contract with Telsa. We knew it was a bad idea when it was announced.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:30 AM (r9UYA)

302 222 Huh. A long discussion of generals and no mention, yet, of Scipio, who actually beat Hannibal and the Carthaginians.
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I am inclined to go along with the conclusion of several scholars who conclude that Hannibal was defeated more by the Roman military system and attitude than any specific commander. Every time Hannibal socked it to the Romans in Italy they refused to surrender and raised another army. At the same time their armies in Spain and Sicily worked upon weakening his supply lines, and defeating Carthaginian generals who were not Hannibal. Hannibal also was unable to get Rome's allied cities to leave the Republic and change sides. So Hannibal's big wins had no strategic benefit in the long run.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 10:30 AM (W+kMI)

303 And I see that, as ever, Bander beat me to the punch.

If I had a hat, I would take it off to you, sir.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 03, 2018 10:31 AM (kqsXK)

304 Re: Tesla:

283 ...Wasn't there another fatality recently, too?

The last one I know of was the guy killed when the autopilot drove into a lane separator out in the Bay Area. Tesla wound up being kicked off the accident investigation board because they were making public statements blaming the driver and other et cetera stuff.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:31 AM (CoKlX)

305 3
He looks like a spoiled little kid whose daddy has just taken away his pony.

Posted by: bluebell at May 03, 2018 09:23 AM (oMtOd)

Quick! Call the ponyologist!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 03, 2018 10:31 AM (8iiMU)

306 295
Mississippi John Hurt has a couple different Casey Jones songs- one with
a whole lot of train sounds coming from the guitar. Pretty cool stuff.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (mvenn)
Yeah, but them the chest-bursting incident cut his career short.

Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 10:31 AM (OyyDO)

307 191. Stop it, guys! I'll never get to my chores.

Posted by: RI Red - not a chicken at May 03, 2018 10:32 AM (8/FKB)

308 Horowitz will come..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 03, 2018 10:32 AM (QQ+il)

309

She was a day trader, a Sunday driver yea
Took me so long to find out, and I found out

Posted by: Elon Musky at May 03, 2018 10:32 AM (IqV8l)

310 From what I read, Napoleon was average height for a
Frenchman. The British came up with the short meme as propaganda, as the
average Brit was taller. It was a way to ridicule him.
Posted by: Kris at May 03, 2018 09:58 AM

But how big were his hands, eh?

Posted by: DNC at May 03, 2018 10:32 AM (ctuyM)

311 You mean our ancestor types had...

Sex?

Noooooooooo!!!!!!

Posted by: Anon a mouse

Every generation thinks it invented sex, completely ignoring the fact that the got there somehow...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 03, 2018 10:32 AM (AM1GF)

312 >>Al Pacino was great in that role.

Heh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 03, 2018 10:32 AM (mtfdF)

313 "Oh boy, this is great!"

Posted by: Napoleon, who is really Flounder at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (8iiMU)

314 There was an earnings call, which all the Wall Street types take very seriously. Elon Musk refused to answer any of the analyst's financial questions, saying that they were "boring", and instead spent the entire call talking to a fanboy of his who's mainly known for posting YouTube videos about how Wonderful Elon Musk is.

It was not a performance that inspired confidence.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 03, 2018 10:27 AM (V2Yro)
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Telsa is hemorrhaging money and they can't get production ramped up.

Musk is feeling the heat.

Should of stuck to Spacex and the sweet government money.

Who knew it was easier to build a rocket than a car.

Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (G0vdT)

315 Mississippi John Hurt has a couple different Casey
Jones songs- one with a whole lot of train sounds coming from the
guitar. Pretty cool stuff.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:29 AM (mvenn)

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Yeah, I still remember decades ago and the first time I heard him playing it where he's making the sounds for everyone and everything and singing the song while fingerpicking the "thumpity-thumpity" of the train rolling down the tracks.

That was just about the exact moment that I realized I wasn't a very good guitar player.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (VgKNm)

316 Robert DiNero was the weakest actor in Michael Mann's Heat.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (rnAwa)

317 Looks like Oswald Cobblepot to me .

Posted by: The Batman at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (3BBcJ)

318 Has this been mentioned on the Ace blog? I haven't had the time to hang here as much, but this was one of the most interesting tidbits I've read in a while - most news is boring and repetitive...

In FrontPageMag.com's story

QUESTIONS FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL MUELLER
Turning the tables on President Trump's interrogator-in-chief.

Special Counsel Mueller, what is your understanding of Fanny Ohr? She is the Russia expert, wife of demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr, who worked for Fusion GPS on the Steele dossier. In your expert opinion, why might Fanny Ohr have acquired a short-wave radio license about that time? Was it to communicate with Russian contacts and avoid detection? Did the FBI monitor any of Ohr's communications?

wth?

not a satellite phone...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (fceHP)

319 >>308 Horowitz will come..

I want to believe.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (r9UYA)

320 Wasn't there another fatality recently, too?

Oh yes, Musk also complained about how there are a million or so auto fatalities a year, and nobody talks about those. But when an automated car, safer than a human driver, has a fatality, it's big news.

I think he has a point. People have a hard time quantifying risk. If automated cars really are safer than human drivers, it's irresponsible of news people to hype deaths.

Of course, the news people can't help themselves. Maybe in 30 years it won't be a big deal anymore, but for now, it'll always be news.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 03, 2018 10:34 AM (iv0p7)

321 He's got spurs that go jingle jangle jingle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2018 10:34 AM (WFV7d)

322 >>>Napol�on Bonaparte Abdicated In Fontainebleau

= In an Expensive Pen

Posted by: m at May 03, 2018 10:35 AM (0bRDi)

323 And Gandalf is a sucker of cock
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:26 AM (rzlnk)

Mostly true.

Posted by: Ian McKellen at May 03, 2018 10:35 AM (suO/a)

324 My husband says that it is battery technology that is behind. If someone could invent a better battery or self contained cold fusion...well, that would change everything.

Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 10:35 AM (9iLHi)

325 Robert DiNero was the weakest actor in Michael Mann's Heat.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (rnAwa)

WHAT?

Pacino was pathetically bad.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 03, 2018 10:36 AM (wYseH)

326 Someone raised the question about his semi trucks super optimistic range of 500-600 miles

I'm surprised he hasn't proposed his own bullet train. Politicians love those things.

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 10:36 AM (cp1if)

327 Every generation thinks it invented sex, completely ignoring the fact that the got there somehow...
Posted by: Brother Cavil

Sex for procreation only is different than shaggadelic sex for fun.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 10:36 AM (2ifxQ)

328 That was just about the exact moment that I realized I wasn't a very good guitar player.

********

You and me both, brother. I can peck out a finger picking version of his Casey Jones (was a brave engineer) tune, but Lord I can't come anywhere close to his sound.

Ane he was what, in his 70x or even pushing 80 when most of those live recordings were made?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:36 AM (mvenn)

329 "Hannibal also was unable to get Rome's allied cities to leave the Republic and change sides. "

ISTR a couple did. Then the Romans reminded them and everyone else why that was a bad idea.

Hannibal's problem was operating on his own, without an actual supply line. His whole expedition was funded by his family's holdings in Spain; Carthage refused to give him more than a pittance, even after Cannae.

Had Carthage backed him, they could have sent siege engineers to him after Cannae and cracked Rome itself.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 03, 2018 10:36 AM (cApiC)

330 Is that Joe Pesce playing Napolean?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 03, 2018 10:36 AM (so+oy)

331 278 the man of the hour who would restore law and order and be the true leader of the people.

-
Nappy could turn a phrase. He said he took the crown out of the gutter with his sword.
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This is true, he is very quotable, not the least because he spoke truthfully and did not "spin"..

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 10:37 AM (W+kMI)

332 Despicable Moi

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 10:37 AM (rnAwa)

333 And Gandalf is a sucker of cock
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth

I smote you down upon a mountain once. Don't make me come over there and do it again.

Posted by: Gandalf at May 03, 2018 10:37 AM (iv0p7)

334 Telsa is hemorrhaging money and they can't get production ramped up.
Musk is feeling the heat.
Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM

Well, when you burn through 1+ Billion dollars, and lose 700+ Million dollars in a Quarter, and when every Model 3 you ship increases your loss, it's hard not for folks to think this is a chill situation. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2018 10:37 AM (ctuyM)

335 Robert DiNero was the weakest actor in Michael Mann's Heat.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (rnAwa)

Whew. And to think I sucked.

Posted by: Val Kilmer at May 03, 2018 10:38 AM (suO/a)

336 My husband says that it is battery technology that is behind. If someone could invent a better battery or self contained cold fusion...well, that would change everything.
Posted by: lin-duh

Battery limitations have been fairly constant for a long time. Which is why oil/internal combustion engine beats everything.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 10:38 AM (2ifxQ)

337 Brother Cavill:

Every generation thinks it invented sex, completely ignoring the fact that the got there somehow...

The Roman era joke was that the Greeks thought they invented Sex... and that the Romans just added the minor concept of doing it with women.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:38 AM (CoKlX)

338 We now have a Soviet-type town square that lists people's real or alleged violations of "Not Being of the Body."

It's fucking insane.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
-----------

Your attitude is noticed, you know. It's noticed.

Posted by: Political Officer at May 03, 2018 10:38 AM (5IJky)

339 article ends with a BANG

As Paul Kengor showed in The Communist, the FBI had an extensive file on African American Stalinist Frank Marshall Davis, who was in fact a Soviet agent. Were you aware that Frank Marshall Davis was the man known only as "Frank" in the Dreams from My Father book by POTUS 44? Did that ever come up in your time as FBI Director from 2001-2013? The people would sure like to know.

frontpagemag.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 10:39 AM (fceHP)

340 :whispers:

I never read the comments

Posted by: The Batman at May 03, 2018 10:39 AM (3BBcJ)

341 Mississippi John Hurt singing "John Henry."

http://tinyurl.com/y8c9argh

Wow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 03, 2018 10:40 AM (wYseH)

342 I never read the comments
Posted by: The Batman at May 03, 2018 10:39 AM (3BBcJ)

Because....You're Batman!!!! We, know, we know.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 03, 2018 10:40 AM (suO/a)

343 Oh, and speaking of cultural appropriation, I don't recall any hysteria toward Hillary and her various Mao suits.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 03, 2018 10:40 AM (vg8iE)

344 And Gandalf is a sucker of cock
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth

-----

I smote you down upon a mountain once. Don't make me come over there and do it again.
Posted by: Gandalf at May 03, 2018 10:37 AM

Sorry. We misread your title on your latest press release. We thought it said Gandalf the Gay, not Gandalf the Gray. What's a little arrr between friends?

Posted by: Blackbeard, Publicity Agent for Balrog of Morgoth at May 03, 2018 10:41 AM (ctuyM)

345 Oh yes, Musk also complained about how there are a million or so auto fatalities a year, and nobody talks about those. But when an automated car, safer than a human driver, has a fatality, it's big news.

I think he has a point. People have a hard time quantifying risk. If automated cars really are safer than human drivers, it's irresponsible of news people to hype deaths.

Of course, the news people can't help themselves. Maybe in 30 years it won't be a big deal anymore, but for now, it'll always be news.

I don't think he does. His strategy is to blame all accidents caused by his halfway-autonomous vehicles on the human half of the equation and claim that his system is perfect.

Meanwhile, it's what in the old pre-silicon-valley-disruptive-startup days would have been called an "attractive nuisance" by being presented as more capable than it really is.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:41 AM (CoKlX)

346
I'm surprised he hasn't proposed his own bullet train. Politicians love those things.
Posted by: t-bird
--

Hasn't he proposed some underground rapid transit thing?

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:41 AM (5IJky)

347 The Roman era joke was that the Greeks thought they invented Sex... and that the Romans just added the minor concept of doing it with women.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain

Similar to "muzzies invented lamb intestine condoms".

Brits refined the process by removing them from the lamb first.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 03, 2018 10:42 AM (2ifxQ)

348 >>My husband says that it is battery technology that is behind.

Tesla uses LiPo flashlight batteries inside of their power cells. Thousands of them. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IHNrW0QOA

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 10:42 AM (r9UYA)

349 When reach exceeds grasp.

See HRC also.

Posted by: geoffb at May 03, 2018 10:42 AM (zOpu5)

350 Telsa is hemorrhaging money and they can't get production ramped up.
Musk is feeling the heat.
Posted by: WisRich at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM

Well, when you burn through 1+ Billion dollars, and lose 700+ Million dollars in a Quarter, and when every Model 3 you ship increases your loss, it's hard not for folks to think this is a chill situation. ;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2018 10:37 AM (ctuyM)

his company SpaceX has too many hands in too many fires

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiQ5qXnA_OM/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 10:43 AM (fceHP)

351 >>Hasn't he proposed some underground rapid transit thing?

It will break the sound barrier! Glorious.

Posted by: Musk at May 03, 2018 10:43 AM (r9UYA)

352 Hasn't he proposed some underground rapid transit thing?

********

PPTPC's?

(Pressurized Pneumatic Tube Personnel Carriers)

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:43 AM (mvenn)

353 Mississippi John Hurt singing "John Henry."

http://tinyurl.com/y8c9argh

Wow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 03, 2018 10:40 AM

A lot better than the Smothers Brothers version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfP-TyQhJjc

Posted by: Diogenes at May 03, 2018 10:43 AM (0tfLf)

354 Article ends with a BANG

Here's the frontpage.com article he means: https://tinyurl.com/yc23v982

It's 'Questions for Robert Mueller'

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 10:44 AM (5OO3x)

355 Oh yes, Musk also complained about how there are a million or so auto
fatalities a year, and nobody talks about those. But when an automated
car, safer than a human driver, has a fatality, it's big news.

---

Yeah, that's what happens when you brag on your car having zero fatalaties because it's your car. When you make it a big deal, don't complain when people believe you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:45 AM (VgKNm)

356 (Pressurized Pneumatic Tube Personnel Carriers)
Posted by: Muldoon
------------

My ears just popped.

Anyhow, weren't there actually such systems in use, back around the turn of the century? Uh, late 19th Century.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:45 AM (5IJky)

357 304
Re: Tesla:

283 ...Wasn't there another fatality recently, too?

The last one I know of was the guy killed when the autopilot drove
into a lane separator out in the Bay Area. Tesla wound up being kicked
off the accident investigation board because they were making public
statements blaming the driver and other et cetera stuff.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:31 AM (CoKlX)

Nobody wants self driving google/tesla/facebook/government controlled cars, except the government, because they will have a kill switch to any car they want off the road.
If they can't get you to use their trains, they will steal your car.
Comply Citizen.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 03, 2018 10:46 AM (ymnmz)

358 Mississippi John Hurt singing "John Henry."

http://tinyurl.com/y8c9argh

Wow.
=========================

fantastic

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 10:46 AM (LISuA)

359 >>>>Huh. A long discussion of generals and no mention, yet, of Scipio, who actually beat Hannibal and the Carthaginians.

=====

I am inclined to go along with the conclusion of several scholars
who conclude that Hannibal was defeated more by the Roman military
system and attitude than any specific commander. Every time Hannibal
socked it to the Romans in Italy they refused to surrender and raised
another army. At the same time their armies in Spain and Sicily worked
upon weakening his supply lines, and defeating Carthaginian generals who
were not Hannibal. Hannibal also was unable to get Rome's allied cities
to leave the Republic and change sides. So Hannibal's big wins had no
strategic benefit in the long run.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 10:30 AM
.
.
.Hannibal had zero chance of defeating Rome with his invasion. The best he could hope for was that Rome would get tired of him and call it quits by signing a peace treaty with Carthage.

When that didn't happen after Hannibal destroyed the first three or four Legions that Rome sent after him, he knew it was pretty much over and went over to a persisting strategy which did not work in the long run.

As far as Carthage and Scipio Afranicus go.....he used the Roman Legion system to it's fullest and destroyed their Army in the field and then their City.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2018 10:46 AM (+Dllb)

360 I haven't thought about it before, but it raises a good point. There are probably a hundred million plus cars on the road, and only 1% or so of those are electric. Even fewer are Teslas.

Percentage-wise, I wonder if there have been more fatalities in Teslas than in other cars?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:47 AM (VgKNm)

361 (Pressurized Pneumatic Tube Personnel Carriers)

Essentially. And a special company to dig holes for them to go in, "The Boring Company." He even sold some mail-order flamethrowers with the logo through the mail as a stunt.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 03, 2018 10:47 AM (CoKlX)

362 Why so glum Napoleon? It's never too late for Bourbon.

Posted by: Louis XVIII at May 03, 2018 10:47 AM (LB9RI)

363 Mississippi John Hurt singing "John Henry."

Wow. Even watching his fingers I can't tell how he's doing that.

(Also glad I checked the thread because I might have thought that making the chest-burster joke would be new).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 03, 2018 10:47 AM (fuK7c)

364 351
>>Hasn't he proposed some underground rapid transit thing?

It will break the sound barrier! Glorious.

Posted by: Musk at May 03, 2018 10:43 AM (r9UYA)

Can I haz a billion taxpayer dollars?

Posted by: Elon Musk at May 03, 2018 10:47 AM (ymnmz)

365 Ah. Pneumatic tube transport: https://preview.tinyurl.com/holfre7

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:48 AM (5IJky)

366 The deep state is trying to make it crystal clear to any other Donald Trumps that only professional cocksucking deep staters are allowed to run for office in America by punishing his family friends and business associates. I am glad Giuliani and that guy who testified the other day fought back.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 10:48 AM (Lg2h/)

367 (Pressurized Pneumatic Tube Personnel Carriers)

It's been done.

Posted by: Alfred Beach at May 03, 2018 10:48 AM (kqsXK)

368 Battery limitations have been fairly constant for a long time. Which is why oil/internal combustion engine beats everything.

I've seen analysis that puts the battery energy density improvement rate at 5-8% per year.

There are a lot of problems preventing a huge breakthrough. One is each area of research for a new type of battery requires a damn expensive research test facility. Another is Li-ion batteries are still improving (for now), so a fair amount of research dollars are dedicated to that.

IF we grew at a steady 8% annually, it'll still take over 40 years for batteries to have the same energy density of gasoline.

Posted by: Gandalf at May 03, 2018 10:48 AM (iv0p7)

369 Well, when you burn through 1+ Billion dollars, and lose 700+ Million dollars in a Quarter, and when every Model 3 you ship increases your loss, it's hard not for folks to think this is a chill situation.

He'll make that up with volume.

Posted by: t-bird at May 03, 2018 10:49 AM (w1zJX)

370 My husband says that it is battery technology that is behind. If someone
could invent a better battery or self contained cold fusion...well,
that would change everything.

Posted by: lin-duh

=====================

Having lost plenty of money investing in several battery technology busts, I can only (and ruefully) say, good luck.

I'm on to fuel cells.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your Huckleberry! at May 03, 2018 10:49 AM (LISuA)

371 Looks like he has a case o the Mondays.

Posted by: eleven at May 03, 2018 10:49 AM (+lOpA)

372 My future new to me truck.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/ toyota-tacoma-xcab/6573383952.html

I sense a future in the DNC's turd polishing department for this guy.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 03, 2018 10:50 AM (Dp6qK)

373 Geeze guys, I have Hurt albums that I was listening to 50 years ago. What's old is new again?

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:51 AM (5IJky)

374

Then there's Joe Bonamassa's John Henry

https://youtu.be/wgu7NeFb48s

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 03, 2018 10:51 AM (IqV8l)

375 Sorry. We misread your title on your latest press release. We thought it said Gandalf the Gay, not Gandalf the Gray. What's a little arrr between friends?

Posted by: Blackbeard, Publicity Agent for Balrog of Morgoth

You need to update your wifi down there in the pit. My latest press release includes my updated title, Galdalf the White.

Posted by: Gandalf at May 03, 2018 10:51 AM (iv0p7)

376 Another is Li-ion batteries are still improving (for now), so a fair amount of research dollars are dedicated to that.
--------
Yeah....just that tiny, tiny problem of catching fire....

Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 10:51 AM (9iLHi)

377 Tesla stock TSLA tanking. Down 7% since open after a bad day yesterday.

NO battery cars for you!

Posted by: Under Fire at May 03, 2018 09:59 AM (r9UYA)

(Gomer Pyle voice) "Surprise, surprise!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2018 10:52 AM (WFV7d)

378 Well, when you burn through 1+ Billion dollars, and lose 700+ Million dollars in a Quarter, and when every Model 3 you ship increases your loss, it's ~~hard not for folks to think this is a chill situation~~ time to go into politics.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 03, 2018 10:52 AM (+y/Ru)

379 As part of the idea of not helping out the left, let's agree not to take the bait and accept the new phrase "whataboutism".

If the left points out that Trump lied about hush money to Stormy Daniels and you counter that Obama's promise that we could keep our healthcare plans was more substantial, the programmers of the left have promoted the idea that this is "whataboutism".

In other words, its a way for the left to make claims divorced from any realistic contrast.

This is something they will not do. And you KNOW they won't do it. If you find something universally agreeable about Mike Pence, do they admit it or do they perform Starship Trooper mechsuit jumps to "HE STILL WANTS TO SHOCK GAYS!!!"

This is not "whataboutism" to them, this is a "bigger picture".

Remember it's always something different and justified when the self-flattering left wants to do that.

Now, it's not particularly significant to me that Obama lied about keeping our plans--because many of us who read up knew that we weren't going to be able to keep our plans. The people he disappointed are the people who bought the line in the first place, many of whom forgave him, almost immediately. It was no big thing, they got government healthcare out of it.

Trump has done even less to me by paying hush money to a bimbo.

Posted by: Axeman at May 03, 2018 10:52 AM (vDqXW)

380 366
The deep state is trying to make it crystal clear to any other Donald
Trumps that only professional cocksucking deep staters are allowed to
run for office in America by punishing his family friends and business
associates. I am glad Giuliani and that guy who testified the other day
fought back.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 03, 2018 10:48 AM (Lg2h/)

And if you are of the Deep State body, you can have the Chief of Staff of the Office of the Secretary of State as your personal lawyer and everyone you know be on retainer and not be questioned by the FBI because of attorney client privilege. You can have employees of the Department receive payments on the side from your "foundation" for work "outside the scope" of your governmental duties. I'm looking at you Hilary.

Not of the Body----its door kicking time.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at May 03, 2018 10:53 AM (ymnmz)

381 nood chimpanzee

Posted by: eleven at May 03, 2018 10:53 AM (+lOpA)

382 The problem with Tesla is the Model 3 is just stupid. And now its "autopilot" has a death toll. This POS will bring down the company. The Model X sux too. The Model S is actually pretty sweet though. I got totally smoked by one the other day.

Posted by: Chris M at May 03, 2018 10:53 AM (eAZVt)

383 What's old is new again?

*********

Not really. It just came up because folks were talking about racy pop-culture bits from the early 20th century, and his name popped up.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 03, 2018 10:53 AM (mvenn)

384 Geeze guys, I have Hurt albums that I was listening to 50 years ago. What's old is new again?

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:51 AM (5IJky)

---

You're a bit older than me. I can only go back about 30.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 03, 2018 10:53 AM (VgKNm)

385 We specialize in energy storage!

Pay no attention to the explosions.

Posted by: Beacon Energy, funded by The Stimulus at May 03, 2018 10:54 AM (5IJky)

386 In your expert opinion, why might Fanny Ohr have acquired a short-wave radio license about that time? Was it to communicate with Russian contacts and avoid detection? Did the FBI monitor any of Ohr's communications?

wth?

not a satellite phone...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 03, 2018 10:33 AM (fceHP)

IIRC this part was discussed on teh bolg a few months ago, but I hadn't heard anything new.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 03, 2018 10:54 AM (y87Qq)

387 Nood monkey

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at May 03, 2018 10:55 AM (57plp)

388 >>>>>>Battery limitations have been fairly constant for a long time. Which is why oil/internal combustion engine beats everything.

I've seen analysis that puts the battery energy density improvement rate at 5-8% per year.

There are a lot of problems preventing a huge breakthrough. One is
each area of research for a new type of battery requires a damn
expensive research test facility. Another is Li-ion batteries are still
improving (for now), so a fair amount of research dollars are dedicated
to that.

IF we grew at a steady 8% annually, it'll still take over 40 years for batteries to have the same energy density of gasoline.

Posted by: Gandalf at May 03, 2018 10:48 AM
.
.
.For me it's the cost of having to replace the battery at least once and possibly twice during the life of an electric or hybrid car.

We had a Ford Fusion hybrid and we liked the car alot. Once it got over 50,000 miles on it I started looking at battery replacement costs because it was only warrantied to 75,000 miles. It was going to be $9-10,000 when everything was said and done including the cost of the new battery, installation and battery disposal fees.

That was insane and we would have had to replace the battery twice if we had kept the car as long as we normally keep cars so we traded it in on a Honda CR-V.

this was 4 or 5 years ago so things may be different now, but we will not be buying any electric or hybrid cars during our lifetimes.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 03, 2018 10:56 AM (+Dllb)

389 Not really. It just came up because folks were talking about racy pop-culture bits from the early 20th century, and his name popped up.
Posted by: Muldoon
------

Speaking of which, I have an original of this. Found it while cleaning out an old warehouse:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybhlo7jx

Posted by: Beacon Energy, funded by The Stimulus at May 03, 2018 10:57 AM (5IJky)

390 Oops. /Exploding energy storage

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc.,etc. at May 03, 2018 10:57 AM (5IJky)

391 Do a wiki and check out his busts.

Posted by: Gumby at May 03, 2018 10:08 AM (2LelM)

He had a rap sheet, back then?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2018 10:57 AM (WFV7d)

392 Liberals won't devote 5 calories to anything that doesn't service their political ego. "whataboutism", just like everything else, will be fair or foul from one moment to the next depending on it's efficacy in patting them on the back.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 03, 2018 11:01 AM (rnAwa)

393 I had sex with the little guy.

Posted by: Josephine Bonaparte in Fargo at May 03, 2018 11:03 AM (LQLeS)

394 329 "Hannibal also was unable to get Rome's allied cities to leave the Republic and change sides. "

ISTR a couple did. Then the Romans reminded them and everyone else why that was a bad idea.

Hannibal's problem was operating on his own, without an actual supply line. His whole expedition was funded by his family's holdings in Spain; Carthage refused to give him more than a pittance, even after Cannae.

Had Carthage backed him, they could have sent siege engineers to him after Cannae and cracked Rome itself.
====
I do recall that a few southern cities of recent absorption changed sides after Cannae, but they all copped a plea of "we had no choice" and were allowed back in. And it seems like Carthage HQ was much more interested in Sicily and considered Hannibal's campaign to be a personal war. They certainly were not ready to support him in any meaningful way, which stands in contrast to the Roman practice of reinforcing victory and holding Hannibal's army at arm's length.

I also think that Roman patriotism helped out a lot in the crunch too. The Roman legions of the Punic Wars were made up of citizens and aspiring citizens with a vested interest in seeing Rome emerge victorious. Hannibal's army, and indeed most of their armies, were made up of mercenaries and tribal warriors who fought for short-term revenge on Rome. Rome could always raise a yearly army of soldiers dedicated to preserving the Republic, while Hannibal's army hemorraghed men at regular intervals.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 03, 2018 11:04 AM (W+kMI)

395 I'd have all of Europe if it wasn't for those meddling Russians.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 03, 2018 11:09 AM (e1mEI)

396 My husband says that it is battery technology that
is behind. If someone could invent a better battery or self contained
cold fusion...well, that would change everything.

Posted by: lin-duh @ work at May 03, 2018 10:35 AM (9iLHi)

Run the cars on hydrogen made from unicorn farts.

#twoweeks

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2018 11:12 AM (WFV7d)

397 My future new to me truck.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/ toyota-tacoma-xcab/6573383952.html

I sense a future in the DNC's turd polishing department for this guy.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 03, 2018 10:50 AM (Dp6qK)

Damn! that is a great ad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 03, 2018 11:21 AM (WFV7d)

398 My future new to me truck.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/ toyota-tacoma-xcab/6573383952.html
I sense a future in the DNC's turd polishing department for this guy.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 03, 2018 10:50 AM

Given this line in his description:
"-The motor was swapped with a 3rz, has about 80k. Runs stronger than the opinion of a liberal on gun control."

I think he's more of a deplorable and MAGA guy, if not moron material

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 03, 2018 11:21 AM (ctuyM)

399 When it comes to energy density, I'm down with the Energizer Bunny!

Posted by: Wm. J. Bubba Clinton, Esq. at May 03, 2018 11:25 AM (ctuyM)

400 Storing infinite amounts of energy in an infinitely small space is infinitely safe. QED. So there.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 03, 2018 12:12 PM (RuIsu)

401 He seems so happy.

Posted by: Corona at May 03, 2018 12:32 PM (MceDl)

402 I see NO BONER apart from the wee smirk!?

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