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Jonah Goldberg: I Don't Love Rock n Roll
First, George Will told us that jeans were The Devil.
Now, Jonah Goldberg tells us rock n roll is a tool of the pagan gnostic neo-Marxist conspiracy, and he cites lyrics from up-and-coming indie band Jethro Tull to prove this.Like Ben Shapiro, Goldberg argues that part of the trouble with modern life is the elevation of feelings over facts. This is tied to Romanticism, which Goldberg describes as an "emphasis on emotion and the irrational, the significance of that which cannot be seen or explained through science but can be felt intuitively, is the tribal mind's way of fighting its way back into the centrality of our lives."Isn't religious feeling felt intuitively and not rationally? Is he an atheist? Does he not concede that "moral sentiments" are in fact sentiments? Does he think strict utilitarian analysis explains the value we place on a human life? Is he not aware that strict utilitarian analysis is sometimes used to suggest that human life is subordinate to other interests, such as other people's pleasure? Is he not aware how silly and naive this all is? We reason first from emotional feeling. Intuition is the first step of thinking -- then reason is used to, well, reason backwards and come up with a plausible explanation for that intuition. If attempts to construct a logical defense of emotions and intuitions fail, we might reject those initial feelings as erroneous. Then again, we might not. His idea that reason is our primary mode of thinking, and that it is separate from emotion or intuition, is, how do I put this, flatly contradicted by the latest scientific thought about how the brain works. The rational brain is the tip of the iceberg -- 90% of thinking is invisible or at least very hard to see, beneath the surface, a mix of emotion, instinct, and some occasional random neuron walks. Reason is most useful to help figure out how to get more of something you've decided is valuable and good, or less of something you've decided is wortheless and bad. But the initial assignment of value to things or ideals is famously non-rational -- not exactly arbitrary, but extremely hard to explain by recourse to reason alone. Most moral arguments about the rationality of a particular moral value generally involve a lot of ipse dixit, appeal to authority, question-begging (sentences which start with "It cannot be argued that..." and then claim something that a whole lot of people have been arguing about for eons) and, ultimately, hand-waving. If he's gonna yammer about reason, maybe he could pick up a pop science book on the science of cognition. Instead of attempting to explain it all with his feelings and intuitions.
Goldberg adds that "popular culture gives us the clearest window into the romantic dimension that we all live in." The most powerful expression of this is rock and roll. "Rock and roll is romanticism," Goldberg writes, with emphasis in the original. "What are the key themes of rock and roll and these other genres?" Goldberg continues. "Any list would include: defy authority and throw off the chains of 'the Man,'...Rejecting unjustified authority used to be a rational conservative position. Once upon a time King George was "the man." But then, later, David Frum, Jonah Goldberg, Tom Nichols, Bill Kristol and a raft of would-be thought-leaders got deposed and began trying to rehabilitate the image of the authoritarian Obey Your Betters regime. You know, back in the Good Old Days when they claimed the right of prima noctae with your hierarchy of values. I'm also very amused by very emotional people who are clearly on tilt about Trump's election, and who piously recite received wisdom as if they were mullahs, telling the rest of us we should be more rational.
"... true love, damn the consequences, nostalgia for an imagined better past, the superiority of youth, contempt for selling out, alienation, the superiority of authenticity, paganism and pantheism, and, like an umbrella over it all: the supremacy of personal feelings above all else."Nostalgia for an imagined better past? This is a progressive-type jibe. While there's some truth to the jibe, there has never been less truth to it right now: The "better past," which was just five or eight years ago, is not an imagined one, and we actually all were freer then. We now live under a suffocating regime of thoughtcrime and mob rule. Also, as far as personal feelings: A foundational document of our civilization does state that the natural rights of all men include "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
I don't even know what to say. I wonder if Jonah Goldberg was driven over the edge on the Great Rock N Roll Debate by this (mild content warning for profanity) song. BTW, genuine rock music hasn't been particularly culturally significant for about 15 years now. What's the last big true rock hit you can think of? I suppose if you count rock descendants like hip-hop as "rock" then it's still culturally relevant -- but in that case, why not quote Jay-Z instead of Jethro Tull?
Sounding like a 1950s preacher, he goes on: "Rock and roll is the primitive's drumbeat hooked up to killer amps. It ties together meanings we are taught to keep separate; it ratifies the instincts we are instructed to keep at bay. It tells us, in the words of Jethro Tull, 'Let's bungle in the jungle,' because 'that's alright with me.'"
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (CqLnu)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Flyguy at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (v30M8)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Jmel at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (SJ8ZQ)
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged. I really am more attuned to classical music and 1940s and 1950s crooners. And George Strait.
Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (kD8Fh)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:22 PM (pw+jk)
//Jonah in a Chicken Suit
At some point the NT NRO Salon Hot 25 types are gonna pick sides, spoiler alert they are gonna go with the communists.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:22 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: RI Red - Proud member, CRNSA at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (fC8lv)
Posted by: wth at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (pw+jk)
*hangs head*
Posted by: Hands at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Flyguy at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (v30M8)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: concrete girl at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (zr8oO)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: John Marston at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (SkuXa)
Now, it's all the stuff I grew up with plus swing and classical music.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (VM6ev)
Watch out for the Count. I hear he carries a grudge pretty harshly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (sCUYC)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (B3NHb)
talk to the hand, jonah
Posted by: concrete girl at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (zr8oO)
Every morning, lunchtime, and evening sweetie.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (EoRCO)
I was listening to the music the WW2 gen were teens to, and fought to last week....
here's a good one, translated mostly from the Yiddish.
https://youtu.be/Xe2UXccid40
Bei Mir Bist Du Shein
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (SzZnW)
The Irony! It burnssss ussss!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (yQpMk)
I dare Jonah to say that to his face.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (B3NHb)
That music is almost 50 years old.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (Lh6Rk)
Maybe Evanescence? That late 90's I think. Man I got old fast.
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (ZvLtE)
Is this as current as the Moron Goldberg can come up with?
Can all the #NeverTrumpers just go to a tar pit and jump in?
Fuching DIE already!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (UsCnO)
Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long years
Stole million man's soul and faith
And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
Posted by: Mick J at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (n9EOP)
One of their big hits was being muzak-piped into some place I was at, and I stopped and listened.
"*That* was some good music right there"
Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (kD8Fh)
Posted by: Hands at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (EzdLW)
Jonah Goldberg, a man smart enough to identify what the underlying force of the left was and pen a bestseller on it....
who then spends his time slowly allying himself with fascists.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (pw+jk)
Could someone get Jonah a Genius Grant for discovering what everyone has known for about 5,000 years?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (0QYMt)
And... How dare he? Out of sex drugs and Rock-n-Roll, there's only Rock left for me.
He can have my Led Zeppelin when he pries it from my cold dead hands.
Ya know, I once had a girlfriend who became an ex gf, then came by one day and said she burned all her lps. The difference between her and Jonah? I haven't had sex with him.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (0ogQG)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (syqpf)
Him who hath not the stomach for this fight, let him depart.
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (2kD+f)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (Tnhbr)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (oVJmc)
Made me laugh.
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (tBimT)
My butt...it hurts.....MY BUTT HURTS WHY WON'T YOU HATE TRUMP!??!?!
//Jonah "Spock" Goldberg
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Kevin Thompson at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (4wcdH)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (Lh6Rk)
34
Curses, foiled again!
Posted by: Mick J at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: Capt. Bill Kristol of the SS Buttpirate at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (v30M8)
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (vgwv+)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Joy Reid at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (njNH0)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (0ogQG)
Best Rock & Roll band ever.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (Lh6Rk)
The Count of Monte Cristo is so grim he makes Batman seem like Plastic Man....
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (SzZnW)
Stand and fight we do consider
Reminded of an inner pact between us
That's seen as we go
And ride there
In motion
To fields in debts of honour defending
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (yQpMk)
Stand the marchers soaring talons
Peaceful lives will not deliver freedom
Fighting we know,
Destroy oppression
The point to reaction
As leaders look to you attacking
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (yQpMk)
A new and dramatic literary expose due out next month. Join the National Idiots cruise June 2 - 12, 2018 to have your own personal copy signed by Jonah in person.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (giT7q)
Choose and renounce throwing chains to the floor
Kill or be killing faster sins correct the flow
Casting giant shadows off vast
Penetrating force
To alter via the war that seen
As frictions spans the spirits' wrath ascending to redeem
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (yQpMk)
A Yiddish tune sung by AA singers in Harlem.
Sounds like the 1940s were a hotbed of multiculti
Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (kD8Fh)
Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (Rw8Ov)
In other words, he and his ilk have sweetly-paid gigs doing inside-the-beltway ideological circle-jerks with Bill Kristol, so who gives a shit what's happening to the normals.
Posted by: Ruger Service-Six .357 at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (1ouh3)
Wars that shout in screams of anguish
Power spent passion bespoils our soul receiver
Surely we know.
In glory we rise to offer,
Create our freedom, a word, we utter a word.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Simplemind at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (ZuGkg)
Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (C1NyB)
and folks a GREAT WAY to depart is on the Salem Cruise with myself, Ed Morrissey, and this year a very special appearance by zombie Gerald Ford....
//Billy Dee Kristol
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (SzZnW)
Words cause our banner, victorious our day
Will silence be promised as violence display
The curse increased we fight the pow'r and live by it by day
Our gods awake in thunderous roars and guide
The leader's hands in paths of glory to the cause
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (1ouh3)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (B3NHb)
Trump happened, and he decided that all of the Republican voters had been conned by an appeal to atavistic emotions best left in the brutish past, an appeal such as "Make America Great Again."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (0QYMt)
Philosophically, this statement refutes the very possibility of a 'rational conservative position'.
There exists a rational pro-order position. It has been set out by Dante (no less) in "De Monarchia" and by Robert Filmer in "Patriarchia, or The Natural Power of Kings". These aren't much read in colleges, but Thomas Hobbes is, and Hobbes says much the same from a secular perspective.
In this model, authority is self-justifying, in that the lack of authority is anarchia.
If conservatism doesn't conserve lawful authority, it's just another specie of liberalism, just slower.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (tBimT)
Quite...
then the Andrews Sisters took it gold...
I have to admit I do prefer Elle Fitzgerald's rendition of it....
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (syqpf)
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (aC6Sd)
Listen should we fight forever
Knowing as we do know
Fear destroys?
Listen should we leave our children?
Listen our lives stare in silence
Help us now
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (MS0+a)
More and more ... I reflect on the wise words of Brother Cavil ...
OpSec. OpSec. OpSec.
Honestly ... I'm pretty much out of shit to say about all this. Either you think like me, or you don't and won't. At this point - no additional example will change anyone's mind.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (XKZwp)
Let's ask Rick "Dental Pick to the Gums" Santorum and Mike Huckabee how that worked out for them.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (B3NHb)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (SzZnW)
I haven't heard that one, however her voice is one for the ages.
I do like me some Joan Jett, too. Especially: I Hate Myself For Loving You
And the Sex Pistols.
Ok so I guess I do like the rock music.
Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (kD8Fh)
Posted by: Simplemind at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (ZuGkg)
He had them during the Obama reign of error.
Not sure why he changed suppliers.
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (tBimT)
Listen your friends have been broken
They tell us of your poison
Now we know
Kill them give them as they give us
Slay them burn their children's laughter
On to hell
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: The Zombie Carpenters at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (Tyii7)
Metal has promise. Since it often points back to opera and to old European folk.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (GdWl+)
The fist will run
Grasp metal to gun
The spirit sings in crashing tones we gain the battle drum
Our cries will shrill the air will moan and crash into the dawn
The pen won't stay the demon's wings, the hour approaches
Pounding out the devil's sermon
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (syqpf)
When I gave a copy of The Cookbook to my sister, I said I found it at a used book sale and it looked...
interesting!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (n9EOP)
He could be right about all of it, and I could care less but barely.
Here's the deal, the NRO Salon Hot 25s refuse to punish the left and the left NEEDS punished.
I prefer they leave and join the left openly and proudly rather than their current shtick of trying to be a pressure regulator on the anger of the normals.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (y87Qq)
* a term actually stolen from an early Karl Marx essay ("On Feuerbach", perhaps), though I've never found the actual German version
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (sILsL)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (NgKpN)
Sounds like the Donor/CoC/Corporate Party of 2020 is already at work in pealing away Christians from Trump's base. I have no idea who they will run, but I can see their plan from a mile away.
Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM
McMullin / Beck 2020 !
Posted by: Jonah at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (EzdLW)
Re: Satanic Devil Rock & Roll
Please call the 70's. No one else cares.
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (tBimT)
We're not gonna take him.
Posted by: The '70s at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (aC6Sd)
I think you have the order of importance incorrect!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (n9EOP)
Soon oh soon the light
Pass within and soothe this endless night
And wait here for you
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the time
All we move to gain will reach and calm
Our heart is open
Our reason to be here
Long ago, set into rhyme
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Circa"
-----------
See my comment #63. He was already there in 2012.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (1ouh3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZInUxr_2OE
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (qJtVm)
Posted by: RioBravo at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (giT7q)
Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (C1NyB)
I'd pay good money for Debbie Harry to do a cover.
https://youtu.be/gQHXR8h4woQ
Bei Mir Ella Fitzgerald
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (SzZnW)
I KNEW IT!!!!
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (B3NHb)
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (PUKsa)
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (ANIFC)
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
Soon oh soon the light
Ours to shape for all time, ours the right
The sun will lead us
Our reason to be here
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: IanDeal at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (5mrLG)
Posted by: Deep Stoat at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: f'd at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (+y/Ru)
Preachers and politicians in the 1950's were warning us about rock n roll being, "Of the Devil".
Or, is he just another victim of TDS?
Posted by: Winston at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: Slick Willie, Zipper Down! at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (4uIgh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (nBBdT)
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (lwiT4)
They'll give you cat-scratch fever.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (yQpMk)
I have a friend who was absolutely convinced that the phrase "domo origato" (as in "domo origato, mr. roboto") was some obscure Latin phrase meaning "God is dead".
Posted by: Anachronda at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (MS0+a)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (nBBdT)
And he was canned for it. :-(
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (JJF7k)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (dUJdY)
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band.
I'm with Ace on this one. What can you say to stuff like that?
Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q)
I think there were still a few living civil war vets back then.
Posted by: 13times at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (K3B2k)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Archer at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (4uIgh)
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (ANIFC)
NRO is on what "Week Four of America Under Siege-The Kevin D Williamson Story"?
I'm old enough to remember when NRO ran off Derbyshire, Coulter, and Steyn so color me keenly apathetic about "SAVE NRO FONZIE!"
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (JJF7k)
How about gladiator movies?
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (n9EOP)
These never trumpers are becoming bigger goof balls by the day.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (lkGNM)
Posted by: The '70s at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (Dp6qK)
Heh. From what I remember, sounds about right.
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (tBimT)
Posted by: Crimso at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (prh9V)
And I want to Hold your Hand...
Not to mention... Good Golly, Miss Molly...
Are clearly meant to create the conditions for the downfall of Western Civilization....
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (NgKpN)
Five of the last five school shooters were TullHeads....
(SWIDT?)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (95+Xk)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (1ouh3)
Posted by: The Zombie Carpenters at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk)
Exile came after that.
Speaking of Sympathy for the Devil, there is a Jean-Luc Godard movie of the same name from 1968.
It intercuts the Stones developing that song in the studio with Marxist diatribes, Black Panther rants, and stupid sixties performance schtick. It is ineffably bad. It can not be abided.
But if you get it in on demand and fast forward through all the claptrap you do get to see the song develop. It started out almost folky and ended up a samba.
I even did math in my head, Mick was 25 at the time and at the top of his game.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (MS0+a)
One aspect of that was his obvious dislike of Rock music. In one book, I forget which, he makes an analogy between having rock songs at a funeral because the deceased liked it and fart sounds because maybe the deceased liked that too. I was thinking, "Are you even human?"
Posted by: bananaDream at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yRBj9)
Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
My words but a whisper, your deafness a SHOUT.
I may make you feel but I can't make you think.
Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Crimso at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (prh9V)
Except fat chicks.
Posted by: Kill Bristol at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (B3NHb)
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=373377#c28185712
Posted by: hogmartin at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (lwiT4)
*Fist bump*
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (tBimT)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (Tnhbr)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (syqpf)
Ya hear that, Tipper?
You're up next at bat.
Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (w7KSn)
So you ride yourselves over the fields and
you make all your animal deals and
your wise men don't know how it feels
to be thick as a brick.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (yQpMk)
Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
My words but a whisper, your deafness a SHOUT.
I may make you feel but I can't make you think.
Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk)
Some of that album must speak to Goldberg: "I've come down from the upper class, to mend your rotten ways...."
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (MuTTO)
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band.
I'm with Ace on this one. What can you say to stuff like that?
Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q)
Well.... we all know that Jethro Tull is actually a Political Radical and has a hedonistic Philosophy...
Clearly he is out to destroy Western Civilization....
Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh...
Posted by: NRO Writer at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (NgKpN)
An allegory for Never Trumpers and the Deep State.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (Lh6Rk)
And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away
In the tidal destruction the moral melee.
The elastic retreat rings the close of play
as the last wave uncovers the newfangled way.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Jona Goldmember at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1)
The Black Crowes.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (EDSlc)
drumbeat is the tempo of Satan" argument. Even my grandma got over it.
And she was an accordian-playing Baptist.
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (lwiT4)
I went to a Christian high school where dancing was banned (yes, BANNED) and yet our talent show regularly featured rock bands. Ryan K. pretending to barf as his group acted out the Bohemian Rhapsody scene from "Wayne's World" still makes me laugh to this day.
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Snowflake Ukuleles at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (Tyii7)
But your new shoes are worn at the heels
and your suntan does rapidly peel
and your wise men don't know how it feels
to be thick as a brick.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (MuTTO)
LOL.....
Could you imagine Jonah meeting my Favorite Founding Father....
Benjamin Franklin???
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (NgKpN)
_______________
That idiot black politician in D.C. who was recently ranting about how the Jews control the weather and own all the property, etc., did not come by those views by accident.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: sven10077
-----------
Today, they would fire Bill Buckley.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (7ThJ3)
Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (jm1YL)
And the love that I feel is so far away:
I'm a bad dream that I just had today
and you shake your head
and say it's a shame.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1)
Old Crow Medicine Show
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (EDSlc)
Even country is going to shit...
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (NgKpN)
The show, I mean, not Ed himself.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (roQNm)
Catches angels as they fall
And the all-time winner
Has got him by the balls
He picks up Gideons Bible
Open at page one
I think God He stole the handle and
The train won't stop going
No way to slow down
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (M+Lyo)
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band.
I'm with Ace on this one. What can you say to stuff like that?
Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q)
Well.... we all know that Jethro Tull is actually a Political Radical and has a hedonistic Philosophy...
Clearly he is out to destroy Western Civilization....
Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh...
Posted by: NRO Writer at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (NgKpN)
Of course, Jethro Tull won the first Grammy for Heavy Metal, so you can understand his confusion.
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (ANIFC)
but they don't know what they're fighting."
That's also Tull. Jonah needs to go back to critiquing women's prison movies.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: Max Power at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (QCc6B)
I couldn't stop movin' when it first took hold
It was a warm spring night at the old town hall
There was a group called The Jokers, they were layin' it down
Don't cha know I'm never gonna lose that funky sound
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Lawdy mama light my fuse
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Truck on out and spread the news
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (yQpMk)
invisible or at least very hard to see, beneath the surface, a mix of
emotion, instinct, and some occasional random neuron walks.>>
This is why I chuckle when people tell me that marijuana does not aid cognition. I find that when I am stoned and pondering a complex legal question, sometimes I "get" it in some kind of intuitive way and I just have to work through articulating it until the articulation matches the feeling I get from the intuition. This effect is most prominent when I have to harmonize different statutes or apply statutes in different ways.
Posted by: SFgoth at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (MuTTO)*
Wait!
His beer is really good.
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (tBimT)
now that I've seen "Ready Player One", I know what I want my funeral to look like. Only more Klingony.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Texican ette at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (fHFm9)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1)
Robert Earl Keen ... A Bigger Piece of Sky.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (1me8P)
The skeeters start buzzing 'bout this time o' year
I'm goin' round back, she said she'd meet me there
We were rollin' in the grass that grows behind the barn
When my ears started ringin' like a fire alarm
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Lawdy mama light my fuse
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Truck on out and spread the news
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (yQpMk)
That's insane. Jethro Tull is clearly metal. Just ask the Grammys.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Tnhbr)
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (XKZwp)
What did they do when Kevin Bacon showed up and taught people to dance?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: SFgoth at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (dZ756)
So, what you're saying is the law often only makes sense, if you are stoned...
Not sure what that says about the law.... LOL
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (syqpf)
talked about the priest who gave a sermon claiming that music with a
syncopated beat was destroying young America with it's vile sexual
drive? Or something like that.
Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (C1NyB)
Dear Father:
Too Late, we already know about sex.
Signed, Mom, Dad and your six siblings.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1)
Junior Brown.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (fA1SL)
Could you imagine Jonah meeting my Favorite Founding Father....
Benjamin Franklin???
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (NgKpN)
--------------------------------------
However, I am sure Jonah would have had a gay old time with Lord North, Lord George Germain and the Earl of Sandwich.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (MuTTO)
**************************
These statutes are cool man, they're ALL cool...
Posted by: Pothead in Colorado at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: Kevin Thompson at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (4wcdH)
---
For the same reason they ever did... his mom totally screwed over Bill Clinton and so Jonah got a golden ticket to a sinecure on the "intellectual" "Right."
Plain old nepotism.
Posted by: The Paolo at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (zY45x)
Hope ya'll know what I'm talkin' about
The way they wiggle that thing, it really knocks me out
I'm gettin' high all the time, hope ya'll are too
Come on a little closer, gonna do it to you
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Lawdy mama light my fuse
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Truck on out and spread the news
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (xPl2J)
♫
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down
♫
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (z3nSX)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (rznWS)
Ace asks:
"genuine rock music hasn't been particularly culturally significant for about 15 years now. What's the last big true rock hit you can think of?"
Hmm, for me, the last "rock" song that I liked was "R U Mine?" by Arctic Monkeys in 2012 -- mostly because it really recalled old-school hard-rock/metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzC_8zqInk
Also because it has some funny retro lyric references.
But aside from that, I'd have to go back to abut 2006-8 for any songs worth a second listen.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (42M22)
****************
He's the Ivan Drago of politics.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (+dsLj)
rock became popular, but that was probably a symptom, not the cause.
Rock is old people music now. Guitars are the accordions of the
twenty-first century.
Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (95+Xk)
An accordion through a Pro Co Rat? Hmmm. Interesting.
Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (vV/gB)
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Lawdy mama light my fuse
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo
Truck on out and spread the news
That I'm tired of payin' dues
Done said goodbye to all my blues
Lawdy mama light my fuse
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (yQpMk)
Nah, he's just revealed that they always were crazy; they just hid it to a greater or lesser degree.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: thirteen28 at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (GdJ+p)
A wildcat did growl
Two riders were approaching
Jonah Goldberg began to howl
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (yQpMk)
Really? LOL!
Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (jm1YL)
I think the only Dem attending is the governor of Louisiana.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (xPl2J)
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged. I really am more attuned to classical music and 1940s and 1950s crooners. And George Strait.
Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (kD8Fh)
It is kind of funny how Bob Dylan, who was a major figure in 60s and 70s rock music, has turned to old standards in recent years, covering many songs that Frank Sinatra once sang. Uncle Bob has always kept his fans on their toes.
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
Bring me a cross of gold as a talisman.
Bless with a hard heart those who surround me.
Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
Put our backs to the north wind. Hold fast by the river.
Sweet memories to drive us on for the motherland."
Also Jethro Tull. And what is bad about any of that sentiment?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Fritz at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (J7XgW)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (42M22)
Yes, and this is why I wear leggings.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Lh6Rk)
What did George have to say about chaps?
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (n9EOP)
Lend me your ears, while I call you a Fool....
Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (NgKpN)
And you can tell he enjoys doing it. Long live PDT!
Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: NativeNH at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (dtRY5)
The Queers' "Journey to the Center of Your Empty Fucking Skull" would also be acceptable.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Skip
Mostly the nookie angle.
If you're looking for consistent rational philosophy from Tull, you are going to be sorely disappointed. Tull had some good music but the lyrics to most of it was just God-awful.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (EDSlc)
Good times, good times.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (w7KSn)
Moonstar88
Writers & Publishers
from the album Warchild · Copyright: Writer(s): Ian Scott Anderson Lyrics Terms of Use
See Jethro Tull Live! BUY TICKETS NOW
highlight lyrics to add meaning...
Walking through forests of palm tree apartments
Scoff at the monkeys who live in their dark tents
Down by the waterhole, drunk every Friday
Eating their nuts, saving their raisins for Sunday
Lions and tigers who wait in the shadows
They're fast but they're lazy, and sleep in green meadows
Well, let's bungle in the jungle
Well, that's all right by me, yes
Well, I'm a tiger when I want love
And I'm a snake if we disagree
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Just say a word and the boys will be right there
With claws at your back to send a chill through the night air
Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder?
Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder
I'll write on your tombstone, I thank you for dinner
This game that we animals play is a winner
Posted by: morigu at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (1u1uz)
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (n9EOP)
That they were ass-less?
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: Jonah Goldturd at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (hMwEB)
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Aqualung
Cross-eyed Mary
Bungle in the Jungle
Thick as a Brick
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Defendant #34 at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Lxe59)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: DR.WTF? at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (T71PA)
Ni za sto godina -
https://youtu.be/ignq296onLs
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (fA1SL)
Nah, he's just revealed that they always were crazy; they just hid it to a greater or lesser degree.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (rznWS)
The falling of the masks continues apace!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (n9EOP)
**********************
Thank you, thank you very much.
Posted by: Elvis Impersonator #694 at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Aqualung at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Joy Reid at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (w7KSn)
I bought The Essential Allman Bros CD at the Dollar General last week for $6. It is surprisingly good. Has a 15 minute long version of Jessica that totally rocks.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (1me8P)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (ANIFC)
Michelle Goldberg has taken over Jonah's body and is now swishing around NR doing his nails!
Posted by: andycanuck at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (VBKy9)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (fVubI)
Same as its always been ... doesn't sound inspirational quite like Lee Greenwood - especially to those that fancy themselves always in charge.
Like I always say ... and always gonna' say ...
More and more ... I reflect on the wise words of Brother Cavil ...
OpSec. OpSec. OpSec.
Honestly ... I'm pretty much out of shit to say about all this. Either you think like me, or you don't and won't. At this point - no additional example will change anyone's mind.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (syqpf)
So apparently, every f'n bar and tavern in our downtown area has decided to remove straws. If you want one, you have to ask for it.
Because....goddamn turtles are dying from getting straws stuck in their noses.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (EyPfd)
I have exactly ZERO Jethro Tull songs in my mp3 collection -- which otherwise is extremely eclectic and wide-ranging. They just never really rang my bell. Although I did appreciate their Isle of Wight performance.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (42M22)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
Amen.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (Lh6Rk)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (EyPfd)
It's a hell of a drug.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (y87Qq)
Well, there really was a Jethro Tull -- he invented some farming implement called a seed drill.
The band by that name, however, had been changing names on a weekly basis so they could get gigs, and the one week they managed to get noticed, their name happened to be "Jethro Tull". Or, as initially translated into American, "Jethro Toe".
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (KP5rU)
Logical, oh responsible, practical
And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable
Oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical
Posted by: WOPR at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (G8hDY)
$5 says he thinks "Hamilton" is simply fabulous!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM
As for the correspondents dinner especially. Why would anyone that's been attacked DAILY by these fucks want to go pretend he likes them or can even tolerate them? Good for him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (EDSlc)
Just kidding. They won't make it another 10 years, much less 40.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (xzV6l)
Ian Anderson was the best rock n roll flautist, in part because I think he was the only one.
I love fusion of folk and Celtic music with rock or punk rock. Contemporary with Tull were Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention.
Modern-ish heir is the Pogues.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (FJXGr)
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (EDSlc)
Exactly. They hate us. Want to pulverize and shut us up or worse. It's War and it's about time someone other than us realized it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Ozzy at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (r9UYA)
***************************
I knew it was time to get off Facebook when a stupid fuck of a waste of flesh shared a post about a charity drive for us to turn in our plastic straws to save the planet. And no it's not a joke.
I guess they're practicing for the day where we turn in our guns for peace.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ)
Geoff Bodine gave NASCAR a Hell of a hit in popularity.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (fiGNd)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXInbfGwhNQ
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (9tO1t)
So Jethro Tull is going to be the demise of us. I wonder what he thinks of Jethro Bodine?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ)
You can't talk about Jethro Bodine without getting in trouble...
He is a Double Nought Spy after all...
Posted by: Scooter Libbyyyyy at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (FJXGr)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (rznWS)
Ed Sullivan: On my shew it was Spend Some Time Together.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (fuK7c)
There's a lot of great Celtic music out there!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (n9EOP)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (yQpMk)
I'm talking to you good people
I'm drinking a coke
Eating microwaved left overs with a ton of butter
Life is good
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (SjImc)
I think it's A. J. Foyt who causes him great concern.
Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: jonah at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (VBKy9)
I even did math in my head, Mick was 25 at the time and at the top of his game.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (fuK7c)
I think I saw that part on YouTube the other night.
Poor Brian Jones was banished to a cubby and Bill Wyman played congas. Keith was on bass.
Just checked. That was it.
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (If3tB)
figure in 60s and 70s rock music, has turned to old standards in recent
years, covering many songs that Frank Sinatra once sang. Uncle Bob has
always kept his fans on their toes.
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
A lot of those guys and gals have turned to the standards. Rod Stewart does them. And Seth MacFarlane - he has an awesome singing voice.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (0QYMt)
I think that the kids in Greta Van Fleet are going to save rock in 2018 (by sounding exactly like Zeppelin). But Robert Plant approves, so give them a listen
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Lxe59)
Baby Zeppelin rocks pretty hard, I enjoy the hell out of 'em. Yet I really don't see them saving Rock. I don't think anyone can.
Rock was dead once white teenage boys decided that culturally appropriating rap style would get them more pussy than being a rock singer.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (7ThJ3)
National Review was always William F. Buckley's grift; it never survived on advertising, and would go tits up without charity from donors and patrons. No one purged conservatives as eagerly and reliably as WFB, so he could be seen as acceptable by urban cosmopolitans.
Nothing has been so catastrophic for the traditional American middle class than the misguided reliance on a "conservative movement" that couldn't conserve the lady's room, or marriage between a man and a woman. It's just a Reagan Mystery Cult with a gift shop for the books, magazines, tv shows, and cruise cabins.
I'll cheer the day NR ceases publication.
Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (95+Xk)
Posted by: The Couch at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (xzV6l)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM
Staring at his picture of Mitt Romney, hugging his pillow, sobbing uncontrollably listening to "The Way We Were" while sipping chamomile tea.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (EDSlc)
Posted by: Ozzy at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (r9UYA)
His dick must have fallen off.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (Lh6Rk)
Why in God's name do you want to know what his O-face looks like?
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (rznWS)
Screw FOX. He should put out a daily Press Release on a piece of paper. It should say FUCK YOU
Posted by: Ozzy at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: marcus gravey at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (T8/UU)
Perhaps a Seether song like "Broken", but that's definitely their equivalent of a hair metal ballad.
So maybe I guess Jet with "Are you gonna be my girl"
Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (lKs2v)
I would like Trump to start his own media empire. The market will be YUGE.
Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (o7tuA)
On one hand spotify learned that rock is still number one.
but on the hand, concert goers seem to include only boomers and 12 year old girls.
Us gen-xers will rock out with our cock out but for some reason our bands don't do stadiums but rather music festivals. 10 bands for the price of 2 glasses of beer. Who knows.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (Kuhyt)
by the Stones called something like, Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Just awful. Anyhoo, Tull gave a great performance while everyone else associated seemed to be high on drugs and stunk up the joint. Mick got pissed.Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (J567a)
I do believe I shall yell at it!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (9Hjhc)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (EDSlc)
It seems the primary threads in Ian Anderson's music are: "I love being British", "women are incredible fun", "I'm a musician", and "I'm ignorant about anything outside music".
And yet I like it. And I even saw them live for "Roots to Branches", and saw them play "Fat Man" -- and none of them were playing their usual instrument. Impressive, at least to this non-musician.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (Mbmmf)
Because right then, I think the last of the NeverTrumpers will stroke out.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (0QYMt)
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged
Could you please use interpretive dance to illustrate what keeps your booty engaged? Speak slowly idyllic :-)
Posted by: BigZesty at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (5hmvM)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM
Yea, but then they'd accuse you of being a Russian hooker.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (EDSlc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (SjImc)
99% of all pop music is garbage. Just utter shit musically, lyrically - especially lyrically.
Rock/pop is not art. It just adolescent drama with pretentions that has the luxury of masses that throw time and money down the shitter for fun.
Which is to say he's not wrong, but the larger question is :
WELL FUCKER, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (LNPd9)
Yup. Poor Brian had a year to live at that point, and it shows. And yeah, Wyman gave up. But you watch Mick and Keith and Charlie work it out, and Nicky Hopkins, for a while there was organ in there, and really any of the versions would have been excellent but they kept going til they found the version.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (95+Xk)
That's because I was gay.
Posted by: WFB at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (xzV6l)
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us
You are a better person than I.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (r9UYA)
It's a tragedy!!! We have to DO something!!!
Posted by: Snowflake Ukuleles at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (Tyii7)
281 "Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh... "
Well, there really was a Jethro Tull -- he invented some farming implement called a seed drill.
The band by that name, however, had been changing names on a weekly basis so they could get gigs, and the one week they managed to get noticed, their name happened to be "Jethro Tull". Or, as initially translated into American, "Jethro Toe".
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (fVubI)
Who knew? I thought he was a character from a Dickens novel
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (sILsL)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (EDSlc)
Jethro Tull would be fascinating as he described how he developed the seed drill.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt)
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world
So there was only one thing that I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
Posted by: Ministry at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (3JQ/p)
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp)
Well, there really was a Jethro Tull -- he invented some farming implement called a seed drill.
The band by that name, however, had been changing names on a weekly basis so they could get gigs, and the one week they managed to get noticed, their name happened to be "Jethro Tull".
Posted by: Rob Crawford
As a linguist, I know something about the derivation of the "Jethro Tull" band name that perhaps almost no one else knows:
First of all, as noted above the group themselves didn't even come up with the name -- it was just a joke name concocted by a booking agent:
"Band names [in 1960s London gritty pubs] were often supplied by their booking agents' staff, one of whom, a history enthusiast, eventually christened them "Jethro Tull" after the 18th-century agriculturist. The name stuck because they happened to be using it the first time a club manager liked their show enough to invite them to return."
But here's the really funny thing: The "agriculturalist" Jethro Tull invented a "horse-drawn seed-drill" -- basically the foundation of mass agriculture. But before his invention, an individual "seed drill" also had a more rustic name, based on the sound it made as it was pulled out of the wet mud after making the hole for the seed: a "fucking stick." And some linguists think that the word "fuck" was actually derived from the sound that seed drills made as they went "fwuck as peasants went along "fucking" the soil. The new meaning was obviously closely related to depositing seed in a different kind of wet hole.
So, back to the beginning of the story, "Jethro Tull" ends up being one of those double-ententre wink-wink-nudge-nudge kind of names (like "Lovin' Spoonful') that only insiders know is a sexual reference.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (42M22)
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (sILsL)
That was Uriah Heep.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1)
Nine inch nails.
Pantera.
Screeching weasel.
Cake.
Guttermouth.
That's five off the top of my head, and there were many more.
2000-now, on the other hand, is a damned wasteland. My theory is that John Mayer and Coldplay castrated music and tossed its balls into a super-gay volcano.
Posted by: The Paolo at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (oVJmc)
Word. He should have gone with castenettes.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (o7tuA)
MAGA. America has ALWAYS been great.
Now it's matter of allowing that greatness to shine through again.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (S/hVx)
--
Man, that was good, right up to the point where they started singing.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (+Tibp)
The Who had a good performance too. But what was anyone thinking of letting Yoko caterwaul and at one point I think she got into a sack and started to roll around the stage. Whatever drugs Lennon was on to be with her should be banned forever
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: Backstreet Boys at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp)
So Mumford and Sons.
Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (lKs2v)
complete sad trombone lefty when he writes his lyrics. our wars and greed are going to destroy the world you know, not the rest of the world that sucks and needs to catch up with us
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM
Thanks for the ear worm ya bastard! I think that song was voted as one of the worst songs of all time.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc)
Music videos hurt the genre. Look at some of the early videos and the musicians are homely at best. Plus virtually none of them are teens. They're people who have put in the time and effort. Rap, hip-hop, and auto-tune moved everything to idiots looking good on the screen.
Posted by: WOPR at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (J70i0)
Nah. There was one who did some studio work, I heard him on some Mark Knopfler song.
Then there was Brock Skywalker with Captain Tractor out of Canada...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (LNPd9)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (lKs2v)
One of my favorites.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
Also because it has some funny retro lyric references.
But aside from that, I'd have to go back to abut 2006-8 for any songs worth a second listen.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM
Yeah, Arctic Monkeys are pretty good.
Try this Zombie...
https://youtu.be/7PqaDl2nr88
https://youtu.be/jhZXW2gGH0w
Posted by: otho at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (7xR2D)
I've given up
On society
Up on my family
Up on your social disease
I've given up
On the industry
Up on democracy
Done with all your hypocrisy
All of the chaos
And all of the lies
I hate it
I'm wasting here
Can anyone wash it all away?
I'm waiting here
For anyone to wash it all away
Wash it all away
I've given up
On the media
Feeds my hysteria
Sick of living down on my knees
I've given up
On morality
Feeds my brutality
Fuck what you think about me
All of the chaos
And all of the lies
I hate it
I'm wasting here
Can anyone wash it all away
I'm waiting here
For anyone to wash it all away
Wash it all away
I won't change for you
And I can't take the pain
There's nothing you can do
And there's nothing you can say
I've given up
On everything
Up on everything
Up on everything
I'm wasting here
Can anyone wash it all away?
I'm waiting here
For anyone to wash it all away
Wash it all away
I'm wasting here
With everyone just wash it all away
I'm waiting here
For anyone to wash it all away
Wash it all away
Wash it all away
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (2kD+f)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (wSC8T)
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged
Could you please use interpretive dance to illustrate what keeps your booty engaged? Speak slowly idyllic :-)
Posted by: BigZesty at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (5hmvM)
YouTube has re-enthused me.
Santana at Tanglewood.
Traffic at Santa Monica.
Allman Brothers at Love Valley. Skydog playing Mountain Jam.
ZZ Top had even made a comeback, even with their 3 pieces.
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (xzqr4)
It was my grandparents, and while they adored the show, I couldn't stand it, even as a little kid with undeveloped musical tastes. However, they also watched Hee Haw, which had some amazing performers on there. I really enjoyed watching that.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (42M22)
Fascinating...and Loving Spoonful? Please? Blow?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (o7tuA)
-
Looks like this was another known wolf attack.
Breaking: Van Strikes Pedestrians In Toronto, Killing 9, Driver ID'd As Alek Minassian . . . UPDATE: Bill Bratton Said Known To Police, Terror Suspect
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM
How can you call yourself humanitarian when you only recognize 3 of the 67 (and growing!) number of pronouns, H8r?
Posted by: Desiree Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (kUCyD)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: buzzion
Exactly! And I think the Lumineers and Parker Milsap. Stuff like that.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (+Tibp)
Jonah Goldberg: I Don't Love Rock n Roll
So, he won't be putting another dime in the jukebox baby?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (GdWl+)
----there are good looking rockers and rockers who rocked so hard it didn't matter how they looked.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (2kD+f)
It intercuts the Stones developing that song in the studio with Marxist diatribes, Black Panther rants, and stupid sixties performance schtick. It is ineffably bad. It can not be abided.
But if you get it in on demand and fast forward through all the claptrap you do get to see the song develop. It started out almost folky and ended up a samba.
I even did math in my head, Mick was 25 at the time and at the top of his game.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (fuK7c)
The commie shit made me want to kill someone. They could have cut 2/3 of the "movie" out and just showed them working on the song
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Dp6qK)
Heh, guys in Pooky's unit called it "Footloose Town" but there is a form of dancing that we were allowed to practice: Dutch clog-dancing.
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (XKZwp)
I remember when he used to be geeky and funny.
Now he's just uncool.
Oh and Rock and Roll, the music, isn't the problem.
The problem is sex is god.
One of the things Rock and Roll sings about is extra-marital sex, true. But that's not all it sings about.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (xJa6I)
Where does Flash Cadillac fit into this?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk)
He's duking it out with Ming the Mercedes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (SiINZ)
When USS Cole left Aden after the suicide attack, the crew lined the rails and had "Cowboy" by Kid Rock played.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (LNPd9)
Most 'pop' is usually thought of as horrible by the older set- no matter what time you live in. I will say though that we seem to have gone off the cliff both lyrically and in terms of melody.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (sCUYC)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: buzzion
Exactly! And I think the Lumineers"
----------well, most milenial music is sort of ... not sappy ... but like being a teenager stuck in your house on a rainy sunday and mommmmm wouldn't let you use the internet.
I think old-timey millenial music is actually an unconscious grasp by the forgotten legacy americans who are now the hated white plurality to grab on to their heritage.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (Kuhyt)
Yeah Roy Clark one of the top guitarist ever IMHO.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Fritz at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (J7XgW)
Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (/A+Cl)
Mother was not happy.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (k5hWy)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (9Hjhc)
How about the bait n switch in the movie The Killing Fields? Two hours of communist horror ended with John Lennon's "Imagine", a song that basically mirrored the Khmer Rouge's philosophy?
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (42M22)
Fascinating...and Loving Spoonful? Please? Blow?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (o7tuA)
The average male ejaculate fills about a teaspoon.
Unless you're Peter North.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (6FqZa)
You see, hip hop gets a pass, because black people.
The micro-analysis that goes on about that filth is mind-boggling.
Just keepin it real. Yes, we all need to know how fucked up it is in the inner cities, we must know, we must be told what we as white people created.
Fuck that, I'm going to listen to some Dead.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (AASEZ)
That sumbitch can play like 85 instruments.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (sILsL)
That was Uriah Heep.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt)
I always confuse the two
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (sILsL)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (yQpMk)
Ahem.
Good night all.
Work those Plan Bs. We may need them. And remember -- OPSEC, OPSEC, OPSEC.
Head on a swivel and have a SECDEF Mattis plan.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (Ndje9)
There are a lot of garbage lyrics in rock songs.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (WJpCY)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM
Thanks for the ear worm ya bastard! I think that song was voted as one of the worst songs of all time.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc)
Yeah, I think that could be said to be the point where rock music jumped the shark.
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 23, 2018 08:14 PM (WJpCY)
he commie shit made me want to kill someone. They could have cut 2/3 of the "movie" out and just showed them working on the song
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (SiINZ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2D9v50IOE&t=2347s
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:14 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: Eromero at April 23, 2018 08:14 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Kuhyt
I can see that because they also like the old Sinatra standards and not in an ironic way. They like it.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (1me8P)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk)
He's duking it out with Ming the Mercedes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (SiINZ)
*golf clap*
Most excellent.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (0QYMt)
I live there; traffic here sucks.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (rznWS)
Heh.
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (If3tB)
"excellent", said Soros and ISIS
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (Kuhyt)
For the last year or more my driving music (and I drive a lot) has been the Real Jazz channel on XM. It's a lot of stuff I sort of knew, but I wasn't really a jazz guy, so I hadn't paid attention. They go through all the eras and all the genres and sometimes have shows where people talk about things and it's a jazz education.
Turns out that I like the classic jazz era, which I'll call the 50s to mid-60s. Miles, Coltrane, Ellington, Brubeck.
It's fun to find new things to explore, like when I ran out of American cinema and started paying attention to the Japanese.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (fuK7c)
Mr Crowley??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
Mr. Crowley was solo Ozzy.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (9Hjhc)
The bangtail on Hee Haw was pretty amazing, too. Well, Lulu Roman and Minne Pearl excluded....
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (Ndje9)
When she's 10 feet
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp)
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So Mumford and Sons.
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Exactly! And I think the Lumineers and Parker Milsap. Stuff like that.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (+Tibp)
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You could probably fix this with military school or something
Posted by: The Paolo at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (UiRxW)
The average male ejaculate fills about a teaspoon.
Unless you're Peter North.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I)
Oh come on. its like a quart. But Lovin' Quart didn't work. Thats the real story.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (o7tuA)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (vV/gB)
>>Yeah Roy Clark one of the top guitarist ever IMHO.
That sumbitch can play like 85 instruments.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (r9UYA)
Him, Buck Owens, Glen Campbell - man those guys could play.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (+Tibp)
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You could probably fix this with military school or something"
----and to think back in the late 90's, I thought Billy Corgan had turned into too much of a pussy
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Kuhyt)
It's intolerable. He even has some commie shit narration over some of the studio footage.
I would watch a two hour documentary about the song itself.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (fuK7c)
And then there's Shane MacGowan - the many of many words and few teeth.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (eZowF)
g'early evenin, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (KCxzN)
Then I realize most of this stuff is 40 years old. Do you remember your folks telling you about Guy Lombardo?
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (jm1YL)
It slays and rocks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (xJa6I)
Has anybody pointed out that there hasn't been a music genre of "rock n roll" since the 1950's?
There's been pop, rock, and a kaleidoscope of sub-genres underneath those basic banners since, oh, say, 1964.
Get off Jonah Goldberg's Lawn, I guess.
Posted by: filbert at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (953wK)
Possibly, I wonder what precisely Bill Buckley "conserved?"
I think his running off the Birchers is what doomed America.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (SzZnW)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (yQpMk)
Awesome, Grump! Mr. Bassman, who never posts here but does attend MoMees, is their bass player.
Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (/A+Cl)
that's great that he's doing it though.
I realize that millenials, who are retards, make music the new way because they are cut off from the real world, making real music with real instruments, on the other hand, is good.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (cIhy+)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc)
"Knee deep in the hoopla" indeed.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (MX7xj)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (WJpCY)
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (2WfB0)
Ever heard "Postmodern Jukebox"? They cover modern hits in styles from the early to middle 20th century. They have two or three versions of "All About the Bass" as a 40s nightclub song, all sung by gorgeous young women. Only way that song's tolerable.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (0QYMt)
Yep. We jam all the time.
Posted by: Prince at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (If3tB)
The average male ejaculate fills about a teaspoon.
Unless you're Peter North.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I)
Oh come on. its like a quart. But Lovin' Quart didn't work. Thats the real story.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (o7tuA)
A quart?
Bob, whatever you're doing? Keep doing it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (ZvLtE)
When the HMS Sheffield got deep-sixed in the Falklands, the survivors sang "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life."
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (rznWS)
g'early evenin, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (KCxzN)
That 'ette still abides.
Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (/A+Cl)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc)
"Knee deep in the hoopla" indeed.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM
And we can build this dream together, standing strong forever,,,,click, boom, boom, boom...Radio's hate 357 rounds.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (EDSlc)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (eZowF)
That's what I recalled. I think that genre of rock has more than a few what I call, non-Lefties.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: gobagoo at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (2Ia/C)
(And don't say "it's about a guy named Mr Crowley")
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
Allister Crowley
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (9Hjhc)
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Not Louis B. Mayer at April 23, 2018 08:21 PM (Y0Ohw)
Good thing Jethro Tull didn't get noticed the night they went by "insemnination via latex fist shoved up the cow".
Aka the "Pink Floyd"
Posted by: wooga at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (lgrR2)
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (EDSlc)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM
my son will be 14 in a couple of weeks & is the world's foremost 13 year old authority on Led Zeppelin...he can't stand the current music...he listens to & plays LZ, Pink Floyd, & Rush
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: golfman at April 23
Oh awesome, thanks!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: gobagoo at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (2Ia/C)
Wha. No Jimmy Herring love?
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (r9UYA)
(And don't say "it's about a guy named Mr Crowley")
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
Allister Crowley
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (9Hjhc)
Barbara Bush's dad.
Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (J567a)
Bob, whatever you're doing? Keep doing it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I)
Lol! Well Ok i may have spilled some tequila too. But its at least a pint or an once!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (o7tuA)
1 country
2 rock
3 top 40 hits
4 R&B
5. now rap n shit.
so, I only listen to rock but I know even back in the day, there were other things floating around.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (Kuhyt)
In fairness, that - like a lot of Sabbath - is really electric opera. Warpigs could be an aria, FFS.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (fA1SL)
I dunno about an aria. Whenever I think of War Pigs, I think of when I went to Ozzfest at Glen Helen Amphitheater in San Bernardino back around '02. The terrifying roar of 60,000 toothless meth addicts singing along with Ozzy.
Singing BETTER than Ozzy.
Frickin' awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (fA1SL)
I really love Jethro Tull
I wish for the days when Jonah Goldberg was just a dribble down his father's thigh
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (2kmkW)
Frickin' awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (eXA4G)
But with the same head bob.
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (If3tB)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (z3nSX)
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (ZvLtE)
Glenn Campbell.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: random lurker commenter at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (57plp)
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM
not sure about Roy Clark in the Wrecking Crew; I know Glen Campbell was in the crew
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (rnAwa)
What's it about?
Alfie
Is it just for the moment we live?
What's it all about when you sort it out, Alfie?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (2kmkW
Well that was timely.
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (If3tB)
Because of a personal tragedy, I've had Dirt in constant rotation for a month now. It's amazing.
Of course, at the same time dirt came out, you could've been listening to Snow, Vince Gil, or En Vogue.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: Kuhyt
I know. The 70's were weird. The Carpenters, disco and the Ramones. Go figure.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (+Tibp)
Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (2kmkW)
Come here, will flip for it
Posted by: Bill Kristol & David Frum at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (CDETr)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (1me8P)
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He is still drawing a paycheck so he is doing something right.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (fA1SL)
Rough crowd. Funny... but rough!
Posted by: Not Louis B. Mayer at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (Y0Ohw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G38VlmOib8&snsI =em
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (BYbUF)
Posted by: George Will at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (k5hWy)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (0tfLf)
I'm a classic rock guy in my marrow, but other than the odd new old discovery it's basically just romping around in my past and remembering the old feelings.
For the last year or more my driving music (and I drive a lot) has been the Real Jazz channel on XM. It's a lot of stuff I sort of knew, but I wasn't really a jazz guy, so I hadn't paid attention. They go through all the eras and all the genres and sometimes have shows where people talk about things and it's a jazz education.
Turns out that I like the classic jazz era, which I'll call the 50s to mid-60s. Miles, Coltrane, Ellington, Brubeck.
The local kollidge down here plays that straight-ahead jazz too. No commercials, but National Pubic Rode "news" every hour during the day, so there's 5 minutes of silence.
Good stuff. Can't get over their fascination with Billie Holliday, though. Drugged out and couldn't sing a proper song properly if her life depended on it.
She ain't the beginnings of a pimple on the ass of the Great Ella Fitzgerald. Now there's a fantastic jazz singer.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (GdWl+)
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (o7tuA)
A quart?
Bob, whatever you're doing? Keep doing it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I)
The guy can fill an olympic swimming pool in minutes.
I know, I'll be in the barrel.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Kuhyt
I know. The 70's were weird. The Carpenters, disco and the Ramones. Go figure.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (+Tibp)
I confess, I enjoy listening to the Carpenters and some Disco, with a little John Denver thrown in.
Karen Carpenter had a beautiful voice.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (Lh6Rk)
*sniffs*
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (r+sAi)
Eh. Very talented. But the longer you listen, the more he sounds like Clapton post 1988. Everything sounds the same.
*runs for cover
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (If3tB)
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Golly.
What an original insight!
But if he's going to bring rock and roll into it, why specifically so? Why not sentimental pop? Why not primal hip-hop?
Hey! How about a column trashing black gospel music for failing to rationally analyze the implications of Arminian theology?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (0jtPF)
Posted by: Snoopy and Woodstock at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (z3nSX)
Guess the last huuuge hit from my youth was Bon Jovi...livin on a prayer
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (CDETr)
Used to make the mistake of thinking that Bon Jovi was a decent band. Until I realized that they're something the record company cooked up in a lab. EVERY one of their big hits was written by Desmond Child.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (Lh6Rk)
Couple years ago I decided I would listen to only new stuff, and never the same cut more than once if possible. My genres are classical, jazz, pop, and there is all kinds of good new stuff in those genres. Spotify makes even the most obscure stuff instantly available, so there's lots of "it's new to me" old music to be discovered. Rock? I don't look for it, so I don't know.
I don't want to hear Freebird, Stairway to Heaven, Born to be Wild, Baba O'Riley, Stones, or any of that old stuff anymore! But my poker buddies won't let go of it.
Posted by: gp at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (mk9aG)
Rock n roll ain't gonna die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWqg5-9nsSM
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (0QYMt)
I didn't know that until he showed up out of nowhere to stump for Rick Santorum. Since then... well, he's been solidly conservative. Actually, if you cross Rick Santorum's general policy stances with Trump's willingness to battle, you're pretty much in the ballpark of Dave Mustaine. Maybe someone should convince him to lose the long flowing metalhead hair (doesn't really go with the Serious Middle Aged Conservative face he's developed) and run for office. We could do worse, and the combination of name recognition, ability to handle the media, willingness to fight, and solid conservativeness is pretty rare to find.
Posted by: Locarno at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (HhYvn)
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (z3nSX)
I read it ... and like every damn body else that fancies themselves as the Right and Proper Guardian of Culture ...
... Goldberg has aspirations of Tyranny. Like many Tyrants - for my own good.
And again ... when it comes to the Citizen and the State ... I honestly have no fucking idea what example can drop, at this point, to change anyone's mind.
Everyone has their ideas. Most of them involve Being In Charge.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (wSC8T)
De gustibus non est disputandem.
I love Lady Day. Like Edith Piaf, you get the real pain of the world in her voice.
She was, by the way, literally hounded to death by an FBI guy. I forget his name, but he was a literal racist who got chided by Hoover for using the word n*gger too much in his reports. He had a grudge against Holiday and had her Cabaret license taken away so she couldn't play NYC venues and basically chased her into fatal heroin addiction.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (fuK7c)
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Dave Mustaine's Longtime Bass Player Dave Ellefson is a Christian & is an Ordained Lutheran Minister
Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (y3aQB)
She ain't the beginnings of a pimple on the ass of the Great Ella Fitzgerald. Now there's a fantastic jazz singer.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (GdWl+)
Sarah Vaughan was great, too. A couple of years ago I bought a sheet of her stamps at the post office and the black woman working the counter seemed startled and pleased that I knew about her.
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: gp at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (mk9aG)
They're laughing just like hungry dogs in the street
Policemen are hiding behind the skirts of little girls
Their eyes have turned the color
Of frozen meat
Posted by: No no no no no no no no no no no noooo at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (UdKB7)
DM's state of residency happens to be AZ. I also believe there is a senior senator we haven't heard from lately.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (OaFqD)
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Lh6Rk)
Imma goona get mt Goldberg hate on and go listen to some ABBA.
Well, really just watch the videos.
Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 08:34 PM (tBimT)
He would have done well with the recorder...
Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:34 PM (QxXRY)
---------this is a boomer problem. A lot of bands they like stopped making new music. Gen X has the same problem now but we're actively looking for newer stuff to listen to. Although Dave Grohl is still creative, for example. Metallica is still out there. I can enjoy
I know my stuff is better than boomer music and millenial trash but that doesn't mean you stay static.
And, if boomers are anything like me, you may be shocked at how much music you forgot. Spotify and the net can fill you in on all your forgotten stuff instead of listening to the same 10 songs over and over. as well as finding new stuff you may like
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:35 PM (Kuhyt)
Were any of you guys at Woodstock? I was too young.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (Lh6Rk)
It's like in prison, everyone is innocent.
With hippies over the age of 60, everyone was at Woodstock.
And they won't fucking shut up about it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:36 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Locarno at April 23, 2018 08:37 PM (HhYvn)
kids should listen to the old stuff if they enjoy it, it is our history. The soundtrack, for example, of Forest Gump may seem like a boomer top 10 list but when I hear Running on Empyt come on, I appreciate as a song and as a piece of heritage.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:38 PM (Kuhyt)
Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2018 08:38 PM (Sp1NT)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (0jtPF)
It was inevitable.
Posted by: John Calvin Music Appreciation Society at April 23, 2018 08:38 PM (tBimT)
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel
Well, I agreed with Jonah, as far as I could since I'm reading it through Judge's filter.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 08:39 PM (6FqZa)
I love Lady Day. Like Edith Piaf, you get the real pain of the world in her voice.
She was, by the way, literally hounded to death by an FBI guy. I forget his name, but he was a literal racist who got chided by Hoover for using the word n*gger too much in his reports. He had a grudge against Holiday and had her Cabaret license taken away so she couldn't play NYC venues and basically chased her into fatal heroin addiction.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (fuK7c)
+1 for Billie here.
Another tidbit related to her, after Frank Sinatra got too old to do the teen crooner thing, he remade himself as a mature singer by modeling a big part of his phrasing on Billie Holiday. He was very open about that.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:41 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 23, 2018 08:43 PM (rnAwa)
Posted by: eleven at April 23, 2018 08:47 PM (+lOpA)
Posted by: eleven at April 23, 2018 08:47 PM (+lOpA)
Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2018 08:49 PM (Sp1NT)
You gotta go.
Who do you write for?
I wanna know.
I believe you is the government's whore,
And keeping peoples dumb
Is where you're coming from.
Posted by: Packard Goose at April 23, 2018 09:15 PM (eFpXj)
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:13
I love Rock & Roll, but I get Jonah's point. It's not been exactly supportive of traditional American values in any way. Actually contributed to the degradation of them if you want to be honest. JMHO
Posted by: Farmer at April 23, 2018 09:31 PM (yJ1e6)
Motorhead did an awesome cover of Sympathy for The Devil.
And P!nk did an awesome cover of White Rabbit.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 23, 2018 09:35 PM (tM+21)
As to the latter, Goldberg's assertion is unoriginal to say the least. If you watch the film "Crossroads" from '86, it resists the assertion rock is worthless emotion and then mucks that thesis up when the protagonist triumphs over blues lovin' Satan via Beethoven. Goldberg's claim, at least via the Daily Caller, is the same although it works backward to reach the same conclusion as "Crossroads." And, of course, "Crossroads" inadvertently gives voice to the same criticism of rock that has been recycled since its inception.
In fairness to Goldberg, he apparently references more contemporary rock than Jethro Tull, which essentially is a zombie band with only one original member. But based on this excerpt, he does dwell on the Zombie Tull.
I look forward to not buying Goldberg's book. Maybe there are enough Tom Nichols' in the world to prop up what, based on this excerpt, appears to be a trainwreck.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 23, 2018 09:35 PM (0F/tn)
Posted by: beckydotData at April 23, 2018 09:42 PM (uiI3M)
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at April 23, 2018 10:17 PM (BVQ+1)
Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at April 23, 2018 10:19 PM (VE1y7)
Posted by: Deacon Bleau at April 23, 2018 10:39 PM (yScAF)
Posted by: TJ at April 23, 2018 10:39 PM (OTO8q)
You're on fire. This is why we love you.
Posted by: Born Free at April 23, 2018 10:41 PM (y7Mkd)
And faith is not entirely feeling. Reason is bent to the service of faith, as well. I don't just feel like God exists, I'm convinced he exists, too.
Sometimes you seem blinded by your emotions.
Posted by: GWB at April 23, 2018 10:58 PM (IEo5i)
Goldberg definitely has tried to repackage Fifties-era tent revival rants against rock as "The Closing of the American Mind." Wonder how much more of Jonah's earlier work, which wasted my eyes and time, was unoriginal and cribbed conventional wisdom? All of it?
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 23, 2018 11:00 PM (0F/tn)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 23, 2018 11:01 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: Brisco_County_SR at April 23, 2018 11:59 PM (k6NDF)
Posted by: DFG at April 24, 2018 02:05 AM (9uEHW)
Posted by: Trigger Warning at April 24, 2018 03:00 AM (YRXy3)
The LEFT-right-LEFt-right cadence became
the left-RIGHT-left-RIGHT of syncopation
And thereby achieved a balance.
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at April 24, 2018 04:48 AM (EMi53)
Posted by: Tim from Nashua at April 24, 2018 07:28 AM (EATOD)
It seems weird for Jonah to go after Rock at this point in time. More and more it seems a type of music relegated to the oldies stations. My 16 year old couldn't think of a single rock song that his high school classmates would all know.
Posted by: Jeffrey at April 24, 2018 07:40 AM (FsRGZ)
Posted by: Henry Lee at April 24, 2018 07:54 AM (c/+wS)
No. There is no conflict between faith and reason albeit some things are beyond mere human understanding.
See St. John Paul II's encyclical Fides et Ratio!!
Posted by: dad29 at April 24, 2018 07:59 AM (7Kti7)
Posted by: Jeffrey at April 24, 2018 08:45 AM (FsRGZ)
I don't know what "moral feelings" are. Maybe you can enlighten me. Maybe not all that is not thinking should be called feeling as in that case it is just a bucket.
Even with "moral feelings" on they are 99% consistent with utilitarianism, if you think about true utilitarianism not the straw man of Hollywood movies.
Posted by: ahzoo at April 24, 2018 10:04 AM (wK745)
There's an imaginary geography we all place ourselves on and that determines our political inclinations.
Imagine a village surrounded by a fence surrounded by forest. At the center of the village you have the "pillars of society", makers of human rules, definers of "us". Those are conservatives they fear nature and try to contain and control it. As you move from the center towards the fence the human component (thinking) weakens and the animal component (feelings) gets stronger. You get from liberals to anarchists to the witch that sits on the fence between the human world and the natural one. They generally want to blow things up.
Cultural and political history is the story of the fight between the people in the center of the village and the people near the fence. Which one are you?
We all like rock and roll but what he points out is something else. Rock and roll is a backdoor valve, is a bypass mechanism to our frontal lobes. Fine if you can handle it but not everyone is as aware. Nobody arguing banning rock and roll, just awareness.
Posted by: ahzoo at April 24, 2018 10:39 AM (wK745)
Posted by: aelfheld at April 24, 2018 10:48 AM (IxDhF)
Rock is mostly crap. Partly this is true because whatever is produced, at any time, is mostly crap. But it was made worse by the impossible degree self importance of the musicians themselves, and of their most devoted fans. It created a culture in which people actually discussed the "meaning" of shit like Inagodadavida and MacArthur Park. They did. I was there. Its only virtue was the laughter it could provoke. Not to say some good stuff didn't come out. But even then, it's been all down hill since Who's Next.
(I'm really just talking of the rock I know, mostly the 60s and 70s. Sometime in the 80s I just tuned out pop culture. And could not be happier about that.)
Posted by: George LeS at April 24, 2018 10:51 AM (/ki+X)
There was a recent headline on Drudge asking why rap was getting a pass from the #metoo movement. Apparently Jonah is following good deep-state practices (DSP?) when it comes to double standards and selective outrage. He knows full well that if he takes on Jay-Z et al., his CNN gigs would be gone, his special exemption pass for house conservatives will be revoked.
Posted by: Cato at April 24, 2018 07:36 PM (wX++C)
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