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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Jonah Goldberg: I Don't Love Rock n RollFirst, George Will told us that jeans were The Devil. Now, Jonah Goldberg tells us rock n roll is a tool of the pagan gnostic neo-Marxist conspiracy, and he cites lyrics from up-and-coming indie band Jethro Tull to prove this.Like Ben Shapiro, Goldberg argues that part of the trouble with modern life is the elevation of feelings over facts. This is tied to Romanticism, which Goldberg describes as an "emphasis on emotion and the irrational, the significance of that which cannot be seen or explained through science but can be felt intuitively, is the tribal mind's way of fighting its way back into the centrality of our lives."Isn't religious feeling felt intuitively and not rationally? Is he an atheist? Does he not concede that "moral sentiments" are in fact sentiments? Does he think strict utilitarian analysis explains the value we place on a human life? Is he not aware that strict utilitarian analysis is sometimes used to suggest that human life is subordinate to other interests, such as other people's pleasure? Is he not aware how silly and naive this all is? We reason first from emotional feeling. Intuition is the first step of thinking -- then reason is used to, well, reason backwards and come up with a plausible explanation for that intuition. If attempts to construct a logical defense of emotions and intuitions fail, we might reject those initial feelings as erroneous. Then again, we might not. His idea that reason is our primary mode of thinking, and that it is separate from emotion or intuition, is, how do I put this, flatly contradicted by the latest scientific thought about how the brain works. The rational brain is the tip of the iceberg -- 90% of thinking is invisible or at least very hard to see, beneath the surface, a mix of emotion, instinct, and some occasional random neuron walks. Reason is most useful to help figure out how to get more of something you've decided is valuable and good, or less of something you've decided is wortheless and bad. But the initial assignment of value to things or ideals is famously non-rational -- not exactly arbitrary, but extremely hard to explain by recourse to reason alone. Most moral arguments about the rationality of a particular moral value generally involve a lot of ipse dixit, appeal to authority, question-begging (sentences which start with "It cannot be argued that..." and then claim something that a whole lot of people have been arguing about for eons) and, ultimately, hand-waving. If he's gonna yammer about reason, maybe he could pick up a pop science book on the science of cognition. Instead of attempting to explain it all with his feelings and intuitions. Goldberg adds that "popular culture gives us the clearest window into the romantic dimension that we all live in." The most powerful expression of this is rock and roll. "Rock and roll is romanticism," Goldberg writes, with emphasis in the original. "What are the key themes of rock and roll and these other genres?" Goldberg continues. "Any list would include: defy authority and throw off the chains of 'the Man,'...Rejecting unjustified authority used to be a rational conservative position. Once upon a time King George was "the man." But then, later, David Frum, Jonah Goldberg, Tom Nichols, Bill Kristol and a raft of would-be thought-leaders got deposed and began trying to rehabilitate the image of the authoritarian Obey Your Betters regime. You know, back in the Good Old Days when they claimed the right of prima noctae with your hierarchy of values. I'm also very amused by very emotional people who are clearly on tilt about Trump's election, and who piously recite received wisdom as if they were mullahs, telling the rest of us we should be more rational. "... true love, damn the consequences, nostalgia for an imagined better past, the superiority of youth, contempt for selling out, alienation, the superiority of authenticity, paganism and pantheism, and, like an umbrella over it all: the supremacy of personal feelings above all else."Nostalgia for an imagined better past? This is a progressive-type jibe. While there's some truth to the jibe, there has never been less truth to it right now: The "better past," which was just five or eight years ago, is not an imagined one, and we actually all were freer then. We now live under a suffocating regime of thoughtcrime and mob rule. Also, as far as personal feelings: A foundational document of our civilization does state that the natural rights of all men include "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." I don't even know what to say. I wonder if Jonah Goldberg was driven over the edge on the Great Rock N Roll Debate by this (mild content warning for profanity) song. BTW, genuine rock music hasn't been particularly culturally significant for about 15 years now. What's the last big true rock hit you can think of? I suppose if you count rock descendants like hip-hop as "rock" then it's still culturally relevant -- but in that case, why not quote Jay-Z instead of Jethro Tull? Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
WTF, I think Uncle Ted needs to have a CTJ meeting JG. And top ten.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (CqLnu) Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (pw+jk) 3
Nobody puts Baby in a corner.
Posted by: Flyguy at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (v30M8) 4
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Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:20 PM (Lh6Rk) 5
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Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (pw+jk) 6
Damn Hippees
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (Lh6Rk) 7
That whale never should have spit him up.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (oVJmc) 8
Something in the water. Has to be.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (roQNm) 9
Goldberg a New Kids on the Block fan, then?
Posted by: Jmel at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (SJ8ZQ) 10
My affection for the rock and roll is greatly diminishing, but that's only because I'm turning into an old fart.
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged. I really am more attuned to classical music and 1940s and 1950s crooners. And George Strait. Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (kD8Fh) 11
Jonah Goldberg has decided to live his life as a gay man, literally.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:22 PM (pw+jk) 12
Cuck, Cuck, Cuck, Cuck,
//Jonah in a Chicken Suit At some point the NT NRO Salon Hot 25 types are gonna pick sides, spoiler alert they are gonna go with the communists. Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:22 PM (SzZnW) 13
I know it's only Rock & Roll but I like it.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (Lh6Rk) 14
TL;DR. Was the movie any good?
Posted by: RI Red - Proud member, CRNSA at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (fC8lv) 15
Is the PCMatic band rock and roll? Because then I don't love Rock n Roll either.
Posted by: wth at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (HgMAr) 16
So there I was pummeling Shep in the pooper and he tickles my balls. I'm thinking is this guy a fag or what?
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (pw+jk) 17
Could've been first. Afraid of the dunce cap. Wussed out.
*hangs head* Posted by: Hands at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (EzdLW) 18
The Horde knows the only music with enough class to really appeal to everyone is Paul Anka.
Posted by: Flyguy at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (v30M8) 19
What fact-based music does Goldberg prefer? Schoolhouse Rock?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (oVJmc) 20
talk to the hand, jonah
Posted by: concrete girl at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (zr8oO) 21
Have some Sympathy for the Devil, will ya.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (Lh6Rk) 22
Jonah is so five years ago.
Posted by: John Marston at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (SkuXa) 23
The last band I was ever into was INXS and that ended around 1992 when I was in my early 30s.
Now, it's all the stuff I grew up with plus swing and classical music. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (VM6ev) 24
Wait, borrowing from a riff I made earlier: doesn't this mean he is against the Count of Monte Cristo and The Three Musketeers when he decries 'romanticism'?
Watch out for the Count. I hear he carries a grudge pretty harshly. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (sCUYC) 25
What the hell happened to Jonah? It's like Invasion of the Body Snatchers or something.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (B3NHb) 26
talk to the hand, jonah Posted by: concrete girl at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (zr8oO) Every morning, lunchtime, and evening sweetie. Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (pw+jk) Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (EoRCO) 28
10 Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (kD8Fh)
I was listening to the music the WW2 gen were teens to, and fought to last week.... here's a good one, translated mostly from the Yiddish. https://youtu.be/Xe2UXccid40 Bei Mir Bist Du Shein Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (SzZnW) 29
Like Ben Shapiro, Goldberg argues that part of the trouble with modern life is the elevation of feelings over facts.
The Irony! It burnssss ussss! Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (yQpMk) 30
If I read all this correctly, Ted Nugent is some kind of neo-Marxist.
I dare Jonah to say that to his face. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (B3NHb) 31
We listen to 97.1 The River here in the ATL, and feel fortunate to still have at least one classic R/R station.
That music is almost 50 years old. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (Lh6Rk) 32
Honestly I cam't remember the last new rock song I listened to.
Maybe Evanescence? That late 90's I think. Man I got old fast. Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (ZvLtE) 33
Tull was 1970's.
Is this as current as the Moron Goldberg can come up with? Can all the #NeverTrumpers just go to a tar pit and jump in? Fuching DIE already! Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (UsCnO) 34
Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste I've been around for a long, long years Stole million man's soul and faith And I was 'round when Jesus Christ Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure that Pilate Washed his hands and sealed his fate Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name But what's puzzling you Is the nature of my game Posted by: Mick J at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (n9EOP) 35
23 The last band I was ever into was INXS and that ended around 1992 when I was in my early 30s.
One of their big hits was being muzak-piped into some place I was at, and I stopped and listened. "*That* was some good music right there" Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (kD8Fh) 36
Mark Steyn doesn't like rock 'n' roll either. But he's not a pseudointellectual scold about it like JG.
Posted by: Hands at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (EzdLW) 37
22 Posted by: John Marston at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (SkuXa)
Jonah Goldberg, a man smart enough to identify what the underlying force of the left was and pen a bestseller on it.... who then spends his time slowly allying himself with fascists. Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (SzZnW) Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (pw+jk) 39
Wait - music appeals to emotions? Music. All music. Appeals. To emotions.
Could someone get Jonah a Genius Grant for discovering what everyone has known for about 5,000 years? Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (0QYMt) 40
When Jonah's neurons do a random walk, there's an invisible #NeverTrump leash attached.
And... How dare he? Out of sex drugs and Rock-n-Roll, there's only Rock left for me. He can have my Led Zeppelin when he pries it from my cold dead hands. Ya know, I once had a girlfriend who became an ex gf, then came by one day and said she burned all her lps. The difference between her and Jonah? I haven't had sex with him. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (0ogQG) 41
Oh Jonah, your whale is calling.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (syqpf) 42
Jonah Goldberg wrote Liberal Fascism, thought about it, decided Team TruCon was gonna be on the trains to Happy Fun Camp, and enthusiastically jumped sides in an effort to save his own fat ass.
Him who hath not the stomach for this fight, let him depart. Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (2kD+f) 43
Turbo folk and xardbas.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (fA1SL) 44
Hey guys, remember when NRO trolled the left with "50 most conservative songs", and #1 was "Won't Get Fooled Again". Yeah, NRO doesn't remember either...
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (Tnhbr) 45
That whale never should have spit him up.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (oVJmc) Made me laugh. Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (tBimT) 46
29 Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (yQpMk)
My butt...it hurts.....MY BUTT HURTS WHY WON'T YOU HATE TRUMP!??!?! //Jonah "Spock" Goldberg Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (SzZnW) 47
Why does anyone give Jonah the time of day anymore?
Posted by: Kevin Thompson at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (4wcdH) 48
Have some Sympathy for the Devil, will ya.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:23 PM (Lh6Rk) 34 Curses, foiled again! Posted by: Mick J at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (n9EOP) 49
The only acceptable music is the one they play when they pull out the limbo stick on the hospitality deck.
Posted by: Capt. Bill Kristol of the SS Buttpirate at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (v30M8) 50
This is like inverse Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. He sounds like the Professor guy that argued with Phaedrus in the end. Ugh, I'm still trying to forget that madness.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (vgwv+) 51
Where rock and roll tosses off the chains of "the man", metal picks up the chains and beats him with it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (aMlLZ) 52
Ted Nugent made a bid for Muzak and it was accepted until Muzak learned he was buying the company to shut it down.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (pw+jk) 53
Who?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (Dp6qK) Posted by: Joy Reid at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (njNH0) 55
He can have my Led Zeppelin when he pries it from my cold dead hands.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 23, 2018 07:26 PM (0ogQG) Best Rock & Roll band ever. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (Lh6Rk) 56
24 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (sCUYC)
The Count of Monte Cristo is so grim he makes Batman seem like Plastic Man.... Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (SzZnW) 57
So, Music Thread!
Stand and fight we do consider Reminded of an inner pact between us That's seen as we go And ride there In motion To fields in debts of honour defending Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:28 PM (yQpMk) 58
Stand the marchers soaring talons Peaceful lives will not deliver freedom Fighting we know, Destroy oppression The point to reaction As leaders look to you attacking Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (yQpMk) 59
Musical Fascism: The Secret History of American Music from Blavatsky to Orban
A new and dramatic literary expose due out next month. Join the National Idiots cruise June 2 - 12, 2018 to have your own personal copy signed by Jonah in person. Posted by: RioBravo at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (giT7q) 60
Choose and renounce throwing chains to the floor Kill or be killing faster sins correct the flow Casting giant shadows off vast Penetrating force To alter via the war that seen As frictions spans the spirits' wrath ascending to redeem Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (yQpMk) 61
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:25 PM (SzZnW)
A Yiddish tune sung by AA singers in Harlem. Sounds like the 1940s were a hotbed of multiculti Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (kD8Fh) 62
Sounds like the Donor/CoC/Corporate Party of 2020 is already at work in pealing away Christians from Trump's base. I have no idea who they will run, but I can see their plan from a mile away.
Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (Rw8Ov) 63
I washed my hands of Jonah Goldberg the day after the 2012 election, when he airily declared with a big grin that despite Obama's re-election, conservatives should be of good cheer, because things have never been better for conservatism - why, look at all these journals and think tanks and networks we have now that we didn't have 20 years ago!
In other words, he and his ilk have sweetly-paid gigs doing inside-the-beltway ideological circle-jerks with Bill Kristol, so who gives a shit what's happening to the normals. Posted by: Ruger Service-Six .357 at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (1ouh3) 64
Wars that shout in screams of anguish Power spent passion bespoils our soul receiver Surely we know. In glory we rise to offer, Create our freedom, a word, we utter a word. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (yQpMk) 65
He needs meds. Good ones.
Posted by: Simplemind at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (ZuGkg) 66
Ah, who cares? Fuck that guy.
Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (C1NyB) 67
42 Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (2kD+f)
and folks a GREAT WAY to depart is on the Salem Cruise with myself, Ed Morrissey, and this year a very special appearance by zombie Gerald Ford.... //Billy Dee Kristol Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (SzZnW) 68
Words cause our banner, victorious our day Will silence be promised as violence display The curse increased we fight the pow'r and live by it by day Our gods awake in thunderous roars and guide The leader's hands in paths of glory to the cause Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (yQpMk) Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (1ouh3) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (oVJmc) 71
What the hell happened to Jonah? It's like Invasion of the Body Snatchers or something.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:24 PM (B3NHb) Trump happened, and he decided that all of the Republican voters had been conned by an appeal to atavistic emotions best left in the brutish past, an appeal such as "Make America Great Again." Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (0QYMt) 72
Rejecting unjustified authority used to be a rational conservative position.
Philosophically, this statement refutes the very possibility of a 'rational conservative position'. There exists a rational pro-order position. It has been set out by Dante (no less) in "De Monarchia" and by Robert Filmer in "Patriarchia, or The Natural Power of Kings". These aren't much read in colleges, but Thomas Hobbes is, and Hobbes says much the same from a secular perspective. In this model, authority is self-justifying, in that the lack of authority is anarchia. If conservatism doesn't conserve lawful authority, it's just another specie of liberalism, just slower. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 07:30 PM (6FqZa) 73
Oh sweeties. Jonah swallows. No spitting for that little butterball of a big beautiful man.
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (pw+jk) 74
Oh my gosh. It's been decades since I've heard "the drumbeat is the tempo of Satan" argument. Even my grandma got over it. And she was an accordian-playing Baptist.
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (lwiT4) Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (tBimT) 76
61 Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (kD8Fh)
Quite... then the Andrews Sisters took it gold... I have to admit I do prefer Elle Fitzgerald's rendition of it.... Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (SzZnW) 77
Rock died when disco came along.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (0tfLf) 78
Time for a little cardbordeaux.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (Lh6Rk) Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk) 80
Just exposed my CA cousin to the Horde. You will either meet him in Oct, or I will never hear from him again.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (syqpf) 81
He is right about some of it you know
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (aC6Sd) 82
Listen should we fight forever Knowing as we do know Fear destroys? Listen should we leave our children? Listen our lives stare in silence Help us now Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk) 83
He knows Ted Nugent is more of a bow guy than a gun guy.
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (MS0+a) 84
Here's my hot take ... pretty much what I'm going with from now on.
More and more ... I reflect on the wise words of Brother Cavil ... OpSec. OpSec. OpSec. Honestly ... I'm pretty much out of shit to say about all this. Either you think like me, or you don't and won't. At this point - no additional example will change anyone's mind. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (fiGNd) Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (G8hDY) 86
Yeah, trying to think of the last "heavy rock" hit I heard playing (other than BabyMetal). Doesn't help that our local rock station sold its soul to iHeartRadio and the Hard Rock Casino so we never actually hear music played.
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (XKZwp) 87
Sounds like the Donor/CoC/Corporate Party of 2020 is already at work in pealing away Christians from Trump's base.
Let's ask Rick "Dental Pick to the Gums" Santorum and Mike Huckabee how that worked out for them. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (B3NHb) 88
I have to admit I do prefer Elle Fitzgerald's rendition of it....
Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (SzZnW) I haven't heard that one, however her voice is one for the ages. I do like me some Joan Jett, too. Especially: I Hate Myself For Loving You And the Sex Pistols. Ok so I guess I do like the rock music. Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (kD8Fh) 89
He needs meds. Good ones.
Posted by: Simplemind at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM (ZuGkg) He had them during the Obama reign of error. Not sure why he changed suppliers. Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (tBimT) 90
Listen your friends have been broken They tell us of your poison Now we know Kill them give them as they give us Slay them burn their children's laughter On to hell Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (yQpMk) 91
No significant R&R since Beggars Banquet?
Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (If3tB) 92
Why, that wacky Jonah is at it again!
Posted by: The Zombie Carpenters at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (Tyii7) 93
I agree with Goldberg that rock is degenerate btw. Allan Bloom said it first about the Rolling Stones.
Metal has promise. Since it often points back to opera and to old European folk. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (6FqZa) 94
Many bands are hard core Leftists, some are anarchists, the rest are just looking for the nookie.
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (aC6Sd) Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (GdWl+) 96
The fist will run Grasp metal to gun The spirit sings in crashing tones we gain the battle drum Our cries will shrill the air will moan and crash into the dawn The pen won't stay the demon's wings, the hour approaches Pounding out the devil's sermon Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (yQpMk) 97
Just exposed my CA cousin to the Horde. You will either meet him in Oct, or I will never hear from him again.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (syqpf) When I gave a copy of The Cookbook to my sister, I said I found it at a used book sale and it looked... interesting! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (n9EOP) 98
81 Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (aC6Sd)
He could be right about all of it, and I could care less but barely. Here's the deal, the NRO Salon Hot 25s refuse to punish the left and the left NEEDS punished. I prefer they leave and join the left openly and proudly rather than their current shtick of trying to be a pressure regulator on the anger of the normals. Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (SzZnW) 99
Rock and roll has been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:32 PM (G8hDY) Posted by: hogmartin at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (y87Qq) 100
Well, even if he hadn't lost his mind with the Entrumpenation, this is the sort of theoretical bubble-blowing* of Goldberg's I'd always ignored, anyway. So, I guess I'm doubly ignoring it, or ignoring it twice as hard.
* a term actually stolen from an early Karl Marx essay ("On Feuerbach", perhaps), though I've never found the actual German version Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (QDnY+) 101
I used to like Goldberg. Wow.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 07:34 PM (sILsL) 102
Good Lord, this man is stupid. I won't listen to anything BUT rock music. The rest of it sucks balls.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (dUJdY) Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (NgKpN) 104
Sounds like the Donor/CoC/Corporate Party of 2020 is already at work in pealing away Christians from Trump's base. I have no idea who they will run, but I can see their plan from a mile away. Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 07:29 PM McMullin / Beck 2020 ! Posted by: Jonah at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (EzdLW) 105
75 To: Mr. Goldberg
Re: Satanic Devil Rock & Roll Please call the 70's. No one else cares. Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (tBimT) We're not gonna take him. Posted by: The '70s at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (Dp6qK) 106
Many bands are hard core Leftists, some are anarchists, the rest are just looking for the nookie.
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (aC6Sd) I think you have the order of importance incorrect! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (n9EOP) 107
Soon oh soon the light Pass within and soothe this endless night And wait here for you Our reason to be here Soon oh soon the time All we move to gain will reach and calm Our heart is open Our reason to be here Long ago, set into rhyme Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk) 108
God Save the King!
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (MuTTO) 109
"What the hell happened to Jonah? It's like Invasion of the Body Snatchers or something.
Posted by: Circa" ----------- See my comment #63. He was already there in 2012. Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (1ouh3) 110
Behold the intersectionality of metal and mariachi -- Metalachi!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZInUxr_2OE Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (qJtVm) 111
If you read the book "Liberal Fascism" backwards, you will find that it is actually a Spanish translation of Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism" repeated three times with the chapters rearranged each time through.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (giT7q) 112
Anybody remember the Mike Royko column where he talked about the priest who gave a sermon claiming that music with a syncopated beat was destroying young America with it's vile sexual drive? Or something like that.
Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (C1NyB) 113
88 Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:33 PM (kD8Fh)
I'd pay good money for Debbie Harry to do a cover. https://youtu.be/gQHXR8h4woQ Bei Mir Ella Fitzgerald Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (SzZnW) 114
Rock and roll has been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly diedwas murdered in a plane crash by The Big Bopper to fulfill a blackmail obligation to Don McLean.
I KNEW IT!!!! Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (B3NHb) 115
Like my Tshirt says, "I may be old, but I had all the good music."
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (lwiT4) 116
Jonah turned into John Lithgow's Reverend Shaw from Footloose
Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (PUKsa) 117
In other words, Old Man yells at cloud
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (ANIFC) 118
Soon oh soon the light Ours to shape for all time, ours the right The sun will lead us Our reason to be here Soon oh soon the light Ours to shape for all time, ours the right The sun will lead us Our reason to be here Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (yQpMk) 119
These would-be intellectuals get awfully emotional about reason...
Posted by: IanDeal at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (5mrLG) Posted by: Deep Stoat at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (yQpMk) 121
Sounds like we need some congressional hearings and stickers about the imminent danger posed by rock and roll music.
Posted by: f'd at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (UdKB7) 122
If I understand him correctly, we should separate love from sex and just e pluribus bang 'em.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (+y/Ru) 123
Way late to the thread and comments but, is this guy retarded?
Preachers and politicians in the 1950's were warning us about rock n roll being, "Of the Devil". Or, is he just another victim of TDS? Posted by: Winston at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (wgCUV) 124
Rock was 1974 - 1989.
Posted by: Slick Willie, Zipper Down! at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (4uIgh) 125
NRO hasn't been entirely bad. John Derbyshire warned against being in the proximity of unruly mobs.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (nBBdT) 126
I have to type a sermon about the Ethiopian eunuch. bbl
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (lwiT4) 127
If I understand him correctly, we should separate love from sex and just e pluribus bang 'em.
They'll give you cat-scratch fever. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (yQpMk) 128
112 Anybody remember the Mike Royko column where he talked about the priest who gave a sermon claiming that music with a syncopated beat was destroying young America with it's vile sexual drive? Or something like that.
I have a friend who was absolutely convinced that the phrase "domo origato" (as in "domo origato, mr. roboto") was some obscure Latin phrase meaning "God is dead". Posted by: Anachronda at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (sGtp+) 129
He really wants to give Trump a hug, but can't do it. So, he writes this crap.
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (MS0+a) 130
125 NRO hasn't been entirely bad. John Derbyshire warned against being in the proximity of unruly mobs.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (nBBdT) And he was canned for it. :-( Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (ujg0T) Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (roQNm) 132
What's Jonah think of The London Boys?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (oVJmc) 133
Jonah, do you like Moby?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (JJF7k) 134
The bands I like actually are pretty conservative.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (dUJdY) 135
Goldberg is going after Jethro Tull. He thinks Jethro Tull is the archetype of the Dionysian chaos predicted by Nietzsche and prophesied by Alan Freed. Signs and portents abound.
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band. I'm with Ace on this one. What can you say to stuff like that? Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q) 136
Goldberg is a boor. They all are. Scolding boomers for Jethro Tull? Last time I saw a venue sporting his name was 40 years ago.
I think there were still a few living civil war vets back then. Posted by: 13times at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (K3B2k) 137
well, for purposes of discussion, we can begin by eliminating music from the 1990s because everything from the 1990s was worthless so who cares.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1) Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (xPl2J) 139
Rock on!
Posted by: Archer at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (4uIgh) 140
I'm so old I remember when National Review had a 20th anniversary tribute to Iron Maiden's "Powerslave."
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (ANIFC) 141
125 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:37 PM (nBBdT)
NRO is on what "Week Four of America Under Siege-The Kevin D Williamson Story"? I'm old enough to remember when NRO ran off Derbyshire, Coulter, and Steyn so color me keenly apathetic about "SAVE NRO FONZIE!" Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (SzZnW) 142
Jonah, do you like Moby?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:38 PM (JJF7k) How about gladiator movies? Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (n9EOP) 143
Dude is stretching to be deep, trenchant and relevant.
These never trumpers are becoming bigger goof balls by the day. Posted by: Kreplach at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (lkGNM) 144
We're not gonna take him.
Posted by: The '70s at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (Dp6qK) Heh. From what I remember, sounds about right. Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (tBimT) 145
He doesn't know anything about Tull. He just Googled "Grammy Heavy Metal" and they were first on the list.
Posted by: Crimso at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (prh9V) 146
Yeah... because songs about Girls... and Cars... and Beaches... and Surfing...
And I want to Hold your Hand... Not to mention... Good Golly, Miss Molly... Are clearly meant to create the conditions for the downfall of Western Civilization.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (NgKpN) 147
135 Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q)
Five of the last five school shooters were TullHeads.... (SWIDT?) Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (SzZnW) 148
I forgot where I overheard it but it was a class of young kids getting the lecture Tori Amos was the coming of the Anti-Christ or something.
Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (aC6Sd) 149
Jonah who now?
Posted by: blaster at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (jHrzU) 150
The culture sort of came unglued at the same time rock became popular, but that was probably a symptom, not the cause. Rock is old people music now. Guitars are the accordions of the twenty-first century.
Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (95+Xk) 151
We need to track down the man who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp and lock him up.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (+y/Ru) 152
J G is a cu*t. That is all!!!
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (0OmEj) 153
Welcome to 2018, when Morrissey became a more muscular conservative than the staff of The Weekly Standard.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (1ouh3) 154
Why...do...birds...suddenly appear? Every time, Goldberg's near?
Posted by: The Zombie Carpenters at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (Tyii7) Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk) 156
No significant R&R since Beggars Banquet?
Exile came after that. Speaking of Sympathy for the Devil, there is a Jean-Luc Godard movie of the same name from 1968. It intercuts the Stones developing that song in the studio with Marxist diatribes, Black Panther rants, and stupid sixties performance schtick. It is ineffably bad. It can not be abided. But if you get it in on demand and fast forward through all the claptrap you do get to see the song develop. It started out almost folky and ended up a samba. I even did math in my head, Mick was 25 at the time and at the top of his game. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (fuK7c) 157
Sheep.Smith wants to hear Johan digress on Big Balls' cultural relevance.
Posted by: Jean at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (MS0+a) 158
Has anyone ever read Douglas Hofstadter's pop. science works? Godel Escher Bach, etc.. I thought they were interesting reads at first. But I got put off by his alien like elitism.
One aspect of that was his obvious dislike of Rock music. In one book, I forget which, he makes an analogy between having rock songs at a funeral because the deceased liked it and fart sounds because maybe the deceased liked that too. I was thinking, "Are you even human?" Posted by: bananaDream at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yRBj9) 159
Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper, your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think. Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk) 160
Grump928(C), classing up the joint.
Posted by: Crimso at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (prh9V) 161
If I understand him correctly, we should separate love from sex and just e pluribus bang 'em.
Except fat chicks. Posted by: Kill Bristol at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (Dp6qK) 162
I KNEW IT!!!!
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (B3NHb) http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=373377#c28185712 Posted by: hogmartin at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (y87Qq) 163
Like my Tshirt says, "I may be old, but I had all the good music."
Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:36 PM (lwiT4) *Fist bump* Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (tBimT) Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (Tnhbr) 165
Just introduced my CA cousin to the Horde. You will either meet him in Oct or I will never hear from him again.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (syqpf) 166
"Sounds like we need some congressional hearings and stickers about the imminent danger posed by rock and roll music."
Ya hear that, Tipper? You're up next at bat. Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (w7KSn) 167
So you ride yourselves over the fields and you make all your animal deals and your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (yQpMk) 168
159
Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper, your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think. Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (yQpMk) Some of that album must speak to Goldberg: "I've come down from the upper class, to mend your rotten ways...." Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (ujg0T) 169
People like Sam Adams have no place in civilized society.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (MuTTO) 170
135 Goldberg is going after Jethro Tull. He thinks Jethro Tull is the archetype of the Dionysian chaos predicted by Nietzsche and prophesied by Alan Freed. Signs and portents abound.
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band. I'm with Ace on this one. What can you say to stuff like that? Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q) Well.... we all know that Jethro Tull is actually a Political Radical and has a hedonistic Philosophy... Clearly he is out to destroy Western Civilization.... Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh... Posted by: NRO Writer at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (NgKpN) 171
Grammie, you should preach about Esther and Mordecai and the gallows that Haman built.
An allegory for Never Trumpers and the Deep State. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (Lh6Rk) 172
And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away In the tidal destruction the moral melee. The elastic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers the newfangled way. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (yQpMk) 173
I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so
Posted by: Jona Goldmember at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (M+Lyo) 174
well, for purposes of discussion, we can begin by eliminating music from the 1990s because everything from the 1990s was worthless so who cares.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1) The Black Crowes. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (fiGNd) 175
I wouldn't even say we have Rock N Roll anymore. If we are using contemporary music to look into the collective soul of society then, ish. Because RAP etc.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (EDSlc) 176
Oh my gosh. It's been decades since I've heard "the
drumbeat is the tempo of Satan" argument. Even my grandma got over it. And she was an accordian-playing Baptist. Posted by: grammie winger - the snow is melting - at April 23, 2018 07:31 PM (lwiT4) I went to a Christian high school where dancing was banned (yes, BANNED) and yet our talent show regularly featured rock bands. Ryan K. pretending to barf as his group acted out the Bohemian Rhapsody scene from "Wayne's World" still makes me laugh to this day. Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (XKZwp) Posted by: Snowflake Ukuleles at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (Tyii7) 178
But your new shoes are worn at the heels and your suntan does rapidly peel and your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (yQpMk) 179
The best part of Jonah Goldberg ran down his mama's crack and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (+dsLj) Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (sdi6R) 181
169 People like Sam Adams have no place in civilized society.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (MuTTO) LOL..... Could you imagine Jonah meeting my Favorite Founding Father.... Benjamin Franklin??? /facepalm Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (NgKpN) 182
Jay-Z lyrics like: "Credit/ You ever wonder why Jewish people own all the property in America? This is how they did it. [Credit]"
_______________ That idiot black politician in D.C. who was recently ranting about how the Jews control the weather and own all the property, etc., did not come by those views by accident. Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (fqUgw) 183
I'm old enough to remember when NRO ran off Derbyshire, Coulter, and Steyn so color me keenly apathetic about "SAVE NRO FONZIE!"
Posted by: sven10077 ----------- Today, they would fire Bill Buckley. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (7ThJ3) 184
Is the state dinner for the Fwench tonight? If so, what's Mrs Trump wearing? Much more important than what Goldberg thinks about rock music.
Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (jm1YL) 185
And the love that I feel is so far away: I'm a bad dream that I just had today and you shake your head and say it's a shame. Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (yQpMk) 186
So when is the first National Review record burning scheduled?
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (xPl2J) 187
well, for purposes of discussion, we can begin by eliminating music from the 1990s because everything from the 1990s was worthless so who cares.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1) Old Crow Medicine Show Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd) 188
175 I wouldn't even say we have Rock N Roll anymore. If we are using contemporary music to look into the collective soul of society then, ish. Because RAP etc.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (EDSlc) Even country is going to shit... Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (NgKpN) 189
Jonah was conceived when his mother saw Elvis gyrate on Ed Sullivan.
The show, I mean, not Ed himself. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (oVJmc) Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (roQNm) 191
He hears the silence howling
Catches angels as they fall And the all-time winner Has got him by the balls He picks up Gideons Bible Open at page one I think God He stole the handle and The train won't stop going No way to slow down Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2018 07:45 PM (M+Lyo) 192
170 135 Goldberg is going after Jethro Tull. He thinks Jethro Tull is the archetype of the Dionysian chaos predicted by Nietzsche and prophesied by Alan Freed. Signs and portents abound.
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band. I'm with Ace on this one. What can you say to stuff like that? Posted by: troyriser at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (qUD5Q) Well.... we all know that Jethro Tull is actually a Political Radical and has a hedonistic Philosophy... Clearly he is out to destroy Western Civilization.... Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh... Posted by: NRO Writer at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (NgKpN) Of course, Jethro Tull won the first Grammy for Heavy Metal, so you can understand his confusion. Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (ANIFC) 193
"They say they want revolution,
but they don't know what they're fighting." That's also Tull. Jonah needs to go back to critiquing women's prison movies. Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (fVubI) 194
Great post, ace.
Posted by: Max Power at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (QCc6B) 195
I couldn't stop movin' when it first took hold It was a warm spring night at the old town hall There was a group called The Jokers, they were layin' it down Don't cha know I'm never gonna lose that funky sound Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Lawdy mama light my fuse Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Truck on out and spread the news Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (yQpMk) 196
<<The rational brain is the tip of the iceberg -- 90% of thinking is
invisible or at least very hard to see, beneath the surface, a mix of emotion, instinct, and some occasional random neuron walks.>> This is why I chuckle when people tell me that marijuana does not aid cognition. I find that when I am stoned and pondering a complex legal question, sometimes I "get" it in some kind of intuitive way and I just have to work through articulating it until the articulation matches the feeling I get from the intuition. This effect is most prominent when I have to harmonize different statutes or apply statutes in different ways. Posted by: SFgoth at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (dZ756) 197
*People like Sam Adams have no place in civilized society.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:42 PM (MuTTO)* Wait! His beer is really good. Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (tBimT) 198
158 In one book, I forget which, he makes an analogy between having rock songs at a funeral because the deceased liked it and fart sounds because maybe the deceased liked that too. I was thinking, "Are you even human?"
now that I've seen "Ready Player One", I know what I want my funeral to look like. Only more Klingony. Posted by: Anachronda at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (sGtp+) 199
I was waiting for him to denounce Elvis.
Posted by: Texican ette at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (fHFm9) 200
well, for purposes of discussion, we can begin by eliminating music from the 1990s because everything from the 1990s was worthless so who cares.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1) Robert Earl Keen ... A Bigger Piece of Sky. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (fiGNd) 201
In honor of Goldbrick I put Jefferson Airplane's "Bless His Pointed Little Head".
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 07:47 PM (1me8P) 202
The skeeters start buzzing 'bout this time o' year I'm goin' round back, she said she'd meet me there We were rollin' in the grass that grows behind the barn When my ears started ringin' like a fire alarm Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Lawdy mama light my fuse Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Truck on out and spread the news Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (yQpMk) 203
He also thinks Jethro Tull, those purveyors of the great Romantic Lie, are a hard rock band.
That's insane. Jethro Tull is clearly metal. Just ask the Grammys. Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Tnhbr) 204
Ryan K. pretending to barf as his group acted out the Bohemian Rhapsody scene from "Wayne's World" still makes me laugh to this day.
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (XKZwp) What did they do when Kevin Bacon showed up and taught people to dance? Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Dp6qK) 205
This is why I chuckle when people tell me that marijuana does not aid cognition. I find that when I am stoned and pondering a complex legal question, sometimes I "get" it in some kind of intuitive way and I just have to work through articulating it until the articulation matches the feeling I get from the intuition. This effect is most prominent when I have to harmonize different statutes or apply statutes in different ways.
Posted by: SFgoth at April 23, 2018 07:46 PM (dZ756) So, what you're saying is the law often only makes sense, if you are stoned... Not sure what that says about the law.... LOL Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (NgKpN) Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Lh6Rk) 207
PDT doesn't invite any Dem congresscritters to the State Dinner.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (syqpf) 208
Anybody remember the Mike Royko column where he
talked about the priest who gave a sermon claiming that music with a syncopated beat was destroying young America with it's vile sexual drive? Or something like that. Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 23, 2018 07:35 PM (C1NyB) Dear Father: Too Late, we already know about sex. Signed, Mom, Dad and your six siblings. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (0QYMt) 209
Sweet Jesus, how Trump has driven these people crazy. This is the guy that wrote "Liberal Fascism". Now he's the old guy yelling at clouds about Rock n Roll and tight pants.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (ppaKI) 210
well, for purposes of discussion, we can begin by eliminating music from the 1990s because everything from the 1990s was worthless so who cares.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1) Junior Brown. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (fiGNd) 211
What the hell does Goldberg have against Jethro Tull? I mean, who can be against crop rotation?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (fA1SL) 212
LOL.....
Could you imagine Jonah meeting my Favorite Founding Father.... Benjamin Franklin??? /facepalm Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:43 PM (NgKpN) -------------------------------------- However, I am sure Jonah would have had a gay old time with Lord North, Lord George Germain and the Earl of Sandwich. Posted by: William Eaton at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (MuTTO) 213
I have to harmonize different statutes or apply statutes in different ways.
************************** These statutes are cool man, they're ALL cool... Posted by: Pothead in Colorado at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (+dsLj) 214
I figure Goldberg is engaging in a bit of virtue signaling here. Kind of like how Lefties are proud of their ignorance of all things gun. If Goldberg shows that he does not know much about Jethro Tull, then he does not have to waste brain cells trying to square the circle between that and condemning them.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (G8hDY) 215
Why does anyone give Jonah the time of day anymore?
Posted by: Kevin Thompson at April 23, 2018 07:27 PM (4wcdH) --- For the same reason they ever did... his mom totally screwed over Bill Clinton and so Jonah got a golden ticket to a sinecure on the "intellectual" "Right." Plain old nepotism. Posted by: The Paolo at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (UiRxW) 216
Ugly Kid Joe - Everything about you.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (zY45x) 217
Hope ya'll know what I'm talkin' about The way they wiggle that thing, it really knocks me out I'm gettin' high all the time, hope ya'll are too Come on a little closer, gonna do it to you Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Lawdy mama light my fuse Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Truck on out and spread the news Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (yQpMk) 218
Crest Of A Knave > And Justice For All
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (xPl2J) 219
I'm not gonna even try to understand this latest flight of fancy from an eLite, bcz why should I keep reading crazy stuff. Why subject myself to even more inanity. My mind is rejecting fiddlefaddle.
♫ Help me if you can, I'm feeling down ♫ Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (z3nSX) Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (rznWS) 221
What -- did this essay emerge from a wormhole connecting 2018 back to 1957? The "rock 'n' roll debate" pretty much was over by 1959, when rock was by then al;ready co-opeted by corporate labels pushing crooners rebranded as "teen heart-throbs" and the whole genre became totally mainstream.
Ace asks: "genuine rock music hasn't been particularly culturally significant for about 15 years now. What's the last big true rock hit you can think of?" Hmm, for me, the last "rock" song that I liked was "R U Mine?" by Arctic Monkeys in 2012 -- mostly because it really recalled old-school hard-rock/metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngzC_8zqInk Also because it has some funny retro lyric references. But aside from that, I'd have to go back to abut 2006-8 for any songs worth a second listen. Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM (42M22) 222
Sweet Jesus, how Trump has driven these people crazy.
**************** He's the Ivan Drago of politics. Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (+dsLj) 223
The culture sort of came unglued at the same time
rock became popular, but that was probably a symptom, not the cause. Rock is old people music now. Guitars are the accordions of the twenty-first century. Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 07:40 PM (95+Xk) An accordion through a Pro Co Rat? Hmmm. Interesting. Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (sXefu) Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (jm1YL) 225
Hope Jonah likes Mexican music, cuz he's gonna hear a shitload of it until he dies. Its almost as if Jonah needs to rent a U-Haul or die.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (vV/gB) 226
Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Lawdy mama light my fuse Rock and roll, Hoochie Koo Truck on out and spread the news That I'm tired of payin' dues Done said goodbye to all my blues Lawdy mama light my fuse Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (yQpMk) 227
@209: "Sweet Jesus, how Trump has driven these people crazy."
Nah, he's just revealed that they always were crazy; they just hid it to a greater or lesser degree. Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (rznWS) 228
So he's taking a break from fapping to Stormy Daniels?
Posted by: thirteen28 at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (GdJ+p) 229
Outside in the cold distance
A wildcat did growl Two riders were approaching Jonah Goldberg began to howl Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (+y/Ru) Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (G8hDY) 231
Rock died with SRV.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (yQpMk) 232
PDT doesn't invite any Dem congresscritters to the State Dinner.''
Really? LOL! Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:50 PM (jm1YL) I think the only Dem attending is the governor of Louisiana. Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (xPl2J) 233
10 My affection for the rock and roll is greatly diminishing, but that's only because I'm turning into an old fart.
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged. I really am more attuned to classical music and 1940s and 1950s crooners. And George Strait. Posted by: kallisto at April 23, 2018 07:21 PM (kD8Fh) It is kind of funny how Bob Dylan, who was a major figure in 60s and 70s rock music, has turned to old standards in recent years, covering many songs that Frank Sinatra once sang. Uncle Bob has always kept his fans on their toes. Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (sdi6R) 234
"Bring me my broadsword, and clear understanding.
Bring me a cross of gold as a talisman. Bless with a hard heart those who surround me. Bless the women and children who firm our hands. Put our backs to the north wind. Hold fast by the river. Sweet memories to drive us on for the motherland." Also Jethro Tull. And what is bad about any of that sentiment? Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (fVubI) 235
Reminds of the scene in McClintock where Jerry Van Dyke played that new fangled young people music they were playing at the college McClintock's daughter was attending.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (2DOZq) 236
I see frumpy old Jonah has gotten into the cooking sherry again. But he's correct; that swivel-hipped devil, Elvis the Pelvis, will continue to destroy society's moral fiber and emotionally cripple our youth for generations.
Posted by: Fritz at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (J7XgW) 237
Damn long hairs smell.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (r9UYA) 238
216; preaching to the choir, here.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (KP5rU) 239
"Viva la Vida" by Coldplay in 2008 was perhaps the last truly culture-wide mega-hit in the rock genre.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (42M22) 240
First, George Will told us that jeans were The Devil.
Yes, and this is why I wear leggings. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Lh6Rk) What did George have to say about chaps? Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (n9EOP) 241
Hmmm..... but Jonah really needs to hear my FAVORITE all time line from Tull....
Lend me your ears, while I call you a Fool.... Posted by: Don Q. at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (NgKpN) 242
''Sweet Jesus, how Trump has driven these people crazy. ''
And you can tell he enjoys doing it. Long live PDT! Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (jm1YL) 243
Give me some Rev Horton Heat , some Hank lll a little Psycho-Billy and maybe some Rock-o-billy
Posted by: NativeNH at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (dtRY5) 244
@201: "In honor of Goldbrick I put Jefferson Airplane's "Bless His Pointed Little Head"."
The Queers' "Journey to the Center of Your Empty Fucking Skull" would also be acceptable. Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (rznWS) 245
Many bands are hard core Leftists, some are anarchists, the rest are just looking for the nookie.
Posted by: Skip Mostly the nookie angle. If you're looking for consistent rational philosophy from Tull, you are going to be sorely disappointed. Tull had some good music but the lyrics to most of it was just God-awful. Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (+Tibp) 246
Snot is running down his nose....Never go full Goldberg.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (EDSlc) 247
Remember when we thought people suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome were fucked in the nad?
Good times, good times. Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (+dsLj) 248
I always was partial to Lowell George, Allman Bros., Charlie Daniels, Lynryd, etc.
Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (w7KSn) 249
Moonstar88 Writers & Publishers from the album Warchild · Copyright: Writer(s): Ian Scott Anderson Lyrics Terms of Use See Jethro Tull Live! BUY TICKETS NOW highlight lyrics to add meaning... Walking through forests of palm tree apartments Scoff at the monkeys who live in their dark tents Down by the waterhole, drunk every Friday Eating their nuts, saving their raisins for Sunday Lions and tigers who wait in the shadows They're fast but they're lazy, and sleep in green meadows Well, let's bungle in the jungle Well, that's all right by me, yes Well, I'm a tiger when I want love And I'm a snake if we disagree Related The 18 Greatest Revenge Songs of All Time Nicki Minaj Drops New Songs 'Barbie Tingz And 'Chun-Li' Just say a word and the boys will be right there With claws at your back to send a chill through the night air Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder? Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder I'll write on your tombstone, I thank you for dinner This game that we animals play is a winner Posted by: morigu at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (1u1uz) 250
What did George have to say about chaps?
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:52 PM (n9EOP) That they were ass-less? Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Lh6Rk) 251
Gregorian chants. That's real music.
Posted by: Jonah Goldturd at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (hMwEB) 252
What the hell does Goldberg have against Jethro Tull?
--- Aqualung Cross-eyed Mary Bungle in the Jungle Thick as a Brick Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (roQNm) 253
Buddy Holly---> Luciferian
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (r9UYA) 254
Your honor, I'd like a continuation. My attorney smells like bong water and he's on his ninth bag of Cheetos.
Posted by: Defendant #34 at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Tyii7) 255
I think that the kids in Greta Van Fleet are going to save rock in 2018 (by sounding exactly like Zeppelin). But Robert Plant approves, so give them a listen
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Lxe59) 256
I still have my Pandora AC / DC channel. Sometimes you just need to rock.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (2DOZq) Posted by: DR.WTF? at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (T71PA) 258
223. Accordions - essential instrument in most music of SMR.
Ni za sto godina - https://youtu.be/ignq296onLs Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (fA1SL) 259
227 @209: "Sweet Jesus, how Trump has driven these people crazy."
Nah, he's just revealed that they always were crazy; they just hid it to a greater or lesser degree. Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (rznWS) The falling of the masks continues apace! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (n9EOP) 260
Elvis the Pelvis, will continue to destroy society's moral fiber and emotionally cripple our youth for generations.
********************** Thank you, thank you very much. Posted by: Elvis Impersonator #694 at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (+dsLj) Posted by: Aqualung at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (fuK7c) Posted by: Joy Reid at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (398bZ) 263
grumpy old sock removal
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 23, 2018 07:54 PM (hMwEB) 264
248 I always was partial to Lowell George, Allman Bros., Charlie Daniels, Lynryd, etc.
Posted by: backbeatbaby at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (w7KSn) I bought The Essential Allman Bros CD at the Dollar General last week for $6. It is surprisingly good. Has a 15 minute long version of Jessica that totally rocks. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (Lh6Rk) 265
Goldbrick is afraid they might haul him off to camp. No worries Joanah, you're a good boy.
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (1me8P) 266
The odd thing is Ian Anderson hated hippies, and because of that refused to play Woodstock. You would think Jonah would know something about popular history. Jethro Tull was designed as a modern homage to traditional English music.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (vV/gB) 267
Tom Petty still had some good albums in the 90s.
Posted by: josephistan at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (ANIFC) 268
I know what this is! It's like that TOS Star Trek where Kirk's body is swapped for the chick's and the 'new' Kirk goes swishing around the Enterprise doing his nails.
Michelle Goldberg has taken over Jonah's body and is now swishing around NR doing his nails! Posted by: andycanuck at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (VBKy9) 269
Also Jethro Tull. And what is bad about any of that sentiment?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (fVubI) Same as its always been ... doesn't sound inspirational quite like Lee Greenwood - especially to those that fancy themselves always in charge. Like I always say ... and always gonna' say ... More and more ... I reflect on the wise words of Brother Cavil ... OpSec. OpSec. OpSec. Honestly ... I'm pretty much out of shit to say about all this. Either you think like me, or you don't and won't. At this point - no additional example will change anyone's mind. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (fiGNd) Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (G8hDY) 271
The no Dems invited to the state dinner thing is outstanding. From passing on the correspondents' dinner, to this, Trump has shown excellent style and strategy in reacting to the inexcusable, juvenile, degrading behavior of the Beltway.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+) 272
Jethro Tull always reminds me of a Renaissance Festival.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (2DOZq) Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (SjImc) 274
George Will never had his ass in a pair for starched Wranglers. Pussy
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (syqpf) 275
O/T
So apparently, every f'n bar and tavern in our downtown area has decided to remove straws. If you want one, you have to ask for it. Because....goddamn turtles are dying from getting straws stuck in their noses. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (EyPfd) 276
Confession Booth:
I have exactly ZERO Jethro Tull songs in my mp3 collection -- which otherwise is extremely eclectic and wide-ranging. They just never really rang my bell. Although I did appreciate their Isle of Wight performance. Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (42M22) 277
271 The no Dems invited to the state dinner thing is outstanding. From passing on the correspondents' dinner, to this, Trump has shown excellent style and strategy in reacting to the inexcusable, juvenile, degrading behavior of the Beltway.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+) Amen. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (Lh6Rk) 278
Related story: the last Grammy show I watched was in 1988. That was the first year for the best hard rock award. It was Jethro Tull vs. Metallica. Metallica, of course, was assumed to win because in our dorm, nobody even knew who the f**k Jethro Tull was. Yet there it was, some jazz-flute-playing dork winning the Grammy over the Gods of Hard Rock.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (ppaKI) Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (aC6Sd) 280
Because....goddamn turtles are dying from getting straws stuck in their noses.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM (EyPfd) It's a hell of a drug. Posted by: hogmartin at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (y87Qq) 281
"Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh... "
Well, there really was a Jethro Tull -- he invented some farming implement called a seed drill. The band by that name, however, had been changing names on a weekly basis so they could get gigs, and the one week they managed to get noticed, their name happened to be "Jethro Tull". Or, as initially translated into American, "Jethro Toe". Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (fVubI) Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (fA1SL) 283
Jonah should get one of those carbon monoxide detectors and make sure he's not being slowly poisoned.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (4ErVI) 284
jethro tull sucks monkey ass. metal my ass.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (KP5rU) 285
But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible
Logical, oh responsible, practical And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable Oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical Posted by: WOPR at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (J70i0) 286
Just idly wondering what Goldberg thinks about that execrable Broadway show Hamilton.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 23, 2018 07:55 PM (G8hDY) $5 says he thinks "Hamilton" is simply fabulous! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (n9EOP) 287
The no Dems invited to the state dinner thing is outstanding. From passing on the correspondents' dinner, to this, Trump has shown excellent style and strategy in reacting to the inexcusable, juvenile, degrading behavior of the Beltway.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 23, 2018 07:56 PM As for the correspondents dinner especially. Why would anyone that's been attacked DAILY by these fucks want to go pretend he likes them or can even tolerate them? Good for him. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (EDSlc) 288
So in about 40 years we can look forward to National Review decrying the mindless rhythm and misogynistic lyrics of rap, huh?
Just kidding. They won't make it another 10 years, much less 40. Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (xzV6l) 289
Jethro Tull was designed as a modern homage to traditional English music.
Ian Anderson was the best rock n roll flautist, in part because I think he was the only one. I love fusion of folk and Celtic music with rock or punk rock. Contemporary with Tull were Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention. Modern-ish heir is the Pogues. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (fuK7c) 290
I hear the van in Toronto was a full automatic. F*ck the CAA.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (FJXGr) 291
Jethro Tull played at the 1970 Isle of Wight festival. There is a movie about it. Hoo boy, what a train wreck that was. The audience hated the promoters, the promoters hated the performers, and the performers hated the audience.
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (sdi6R) Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ) 293
Has anyone told Jonah that the song isn't "Let's Spend Some Time Together," but rather "Let's Spend The Night Together"? I'm not sure if we have a fainting couch handy....
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (rznWS) 294
Why would anyone that's been attacked DAILY by these fucks want to go pretend he likes them or can even tolerate them? Good for him.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (EDSlc) Exactly. They hate us. Want to pulverize and shut us up or worse. It's War and it's about time someone other than us realized it Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (SjImc) 295
Mr. Goldberg has gone off the rails.
Posted by: Ozzy at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (r9UYA) 296
Because....goddamn turtles are dying from getting straws stuck in their noses.
*************************** I knew it was time to get off Facebook when a stupid fuck of a waste of flesh shared a post about a charity drive for us to turn in our plastic straws to save the planet. And no it's not a joke. I guess they're practicing for the day where we turn in our guns for peace. Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (+dsLj) 297
So Jethro Tull is going to be the demise of us. I wonder what he thinks of Jethro Bodine?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ) Geoff Bodine gave NASCAR a Hell of a hit in popularity. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (fiGNd) 298
Tony Iommi was in Jethro Tull for a very brief time. There is video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXInbfGwhNQ Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (xPl2J) 299
Thick. As A Brick.
Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (9tO1t) 300
So Jethro Tull is going to be the demise of us. I wonder what he thinks of Jethro Bodine? Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ) You can't talk about Jethro Bodine without getting in trouble... He is a Double Nought Spy after all... Posted by: Scooter Libbyyyyy at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (NgKpN) 301
My guess is Jonah is secluded in his bedroom listening to Barbara Streisand Show Tunes and fapping.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (vV/gB) 302
I wouldn't care if Trump banned all media, with the possible exception of Fox, from pressers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (FJXGr) 303
Has anyone told Jonah that the song isn't "Let's Spend Some Time Together," but rather "Let's Spend The Night Together"? I'm not sure if we have a fainting couch handy....
Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (rznWS) Ed Sullivan: On my shew it was Spend Some Time Together. Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (SiINZ) 304
Modern-ish heir is the Pogues.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:58 PM (fuK7c) There's a lot of great Celtic music out there! Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (n9EOP) Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (2DOZq) Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM (yQpMk) 307
I'm watching a Yankee game, good old American baseball
I'm talking to you good people I'm drinking a coke Eating microwaved left overs with a ton of butter Life is good Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (SjImc) 308
So Jethro Tull is going to be the demise of us. I wonder what he thinks of Jethro Bodine?
I think it's A. J. Foyt who causes him great concern. Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (9tO1t) Posted by: jonah at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (VBKy9) 310
But if you get it in on demand and fast forward through all the claptrap you do get to see the song develop. It started out almost folky and ended up a samba.
I even did math in my head, Mick was 25 at the time and at the top of his game. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (fuK7c) I think I saw that part on YouTube the other night. Poor Brian Jones was banished to a cubby and Bill Wyman played congas. Keith was on bass. Just checked. That was it. Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (If3tB) 311
It is kind of funny how Bob Dylan, who was a major
figure in 60s and 70s rock music, has turned to old standards in recent years, covering many songs that Frank Sinatra once sang. Uncle Bob has always kept his fans on their toes. Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 07:51 PM (sdi6R) A lot of those guys and gals have turned to the standards. Rod Stewart does them. And Seth MacFarlane - he has an awesome singing voice. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (0QYMt) 312
I think that the kids in Greta Van Fleet are going to save rock in 2018 (by sounding exactly like Zeppelin). But Robert Plant approves, so give them a listen Posted by: Navin R Johnson at April 23, 2018 07:53 PM (Lxe59) Baby Zeppelin rocks pretty hard, I enjoy the hell out of 'em. Yet I really don't see them saving Rock. I don't think anyone can. Rock was dead once white teenage boys decided that culturally appropriating rap style would get them more pussy than being a rock singer. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (eXA4G) 313
Today, they would fire Bill Buckley.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (7ThJ3) National Review was always William F. Buckley's grift; it never survived on advertising, and would go tits up without charity from donors and patrons. No one purged conservatives as eagerly and reliably as WFB, so he could be seen as acceptable by urban cosmopolitans. Nothing has been so catastrophic for the traditional American middle class than the misguided reliance on a "conservative movement" that couldn't conserve the lady's room, or marriage between a man and a woman. It's just a Reagan Mystery Cult with a gift shop for the books, magazines, tv shows, and cruise cabins. I'll cheer the day NR ceases publication. Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (95+Xk) 314
Which is older: Rock 'n Roll or Jonah's gimmicks?
Posted by: The Couch at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (xzV6l) 315
My guess is Jonah is secluded in his bedroom listening to Barbara Streisand Show Tunes and fapping.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:00 PM Staring at his picture of Mitt Romney, hugging his pillow, sobbing uncontrollably listening to "The Way We Were" while sipping chamomile tea. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (EDSlc) 316
295 Mr. Goldberg has gone off the rails.
Posted by: Ozzy at April 23, 2018 07:59 PM (r9UYA) His dick must have fallen off. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (Lh6Rk) 317
@270: "Just idly wondering what Goldberg thinks about that execrable Broadway show Hamilton."
Why in God's name do you want to know what his O-face looks like? Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (rznWS) 318
>>302 I wouldn't care if Trump banned all media, with the possible exception of Fox, from pressers.
Screw FOX. He should put out a daily Press Release on a piece of paper. It should say FUCK YOU Posted by: Ozzy at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (r9UYA) 319
Jonah's mad that accordion never got him tail in high school.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (oVJmc) Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (SjImc) Posted by: marcus gravey at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (T8/UU) 322
Rock hit or hit by a rock star? Because Kid Rock has had some good ones.
Perhaps a Seether song like "Broken", but that's definitely their equivalent of a hair metal ballad. So maybe I guess Jet with "Are you gonna be my girl" Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (lKs2v) 323
I wouldn't care if Trump banned all media, with the possible exception of Fox, from pressers.
I would like Trump to start his own media empire. The market will be YUGE. Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (9tO1t) 324
Is he supposed to be a serious deep thinker? Does Jonah wear diapers?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (o7tuA) 325
I think the problem with rock and roll from a corporate globohomo perspective is that it's easier to take a comely dipshit girl and auto-tune her voice over synth pop, build her up and then dispose of her than it is to farm out an actual rock n roll band where you need talent.
On one hand spotify learned that rock is still number one. but on the hand, concert goers seem to include only boomers and 12 year old girls. Us gen-xers will rock out with our cock out but for some reason our bands don't do stadiums but rather music festivals. 10 bands for the price of 2 glasses of beer. Who knows. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (Kuhyt) 326
Tull was in a movie (or maybe a TV show at the time, maybe 196 by the Stones called something like, Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Just awful. Anyhoo, Tull gave a great performance while everyone else associated seemed to be high on drugs and stunk up the joint. Mick got pissed.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (+Tibp) 327
The Hip Hop scene should be RICO'ed for drug and human trafficking. It's how it funds itself on the local and regional level.
Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (J567a) 328
I say, is that cloud mocking me?
I do believe I shall yell at it! Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (9Hjhc) 329
Which would you rather listen to. Jethro Tull or Joan Goldberg?
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (EDSlc) 330
"If you're looking for consistent rational philosophy from Tull, you are going to be sorely disappointed. Tull had some good music but the lyrics to most of it was just God-awful. "
It seems the primary threads in Ian Anderson's music are: "I love being British", "women are incredible fun", "I'm a musician", and "I'm ignorant about anything outside music". And yet I like it. And I even saw them live for "Roots to Branches", and saw them play "Fat Man" -- and none of them were playing their usual instrument. Impressive, at least to this non-musician. Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (fVubI) 331
Because of my deeply humanitarian nature, I would piss on a NeverTrumper, but only if he/she/it was, in fact, on fire.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (Mbmmf) 332
Now me, I want to see Donald Trump enter a room for a speech, with the full Five Services color guard preceding him and the Marine Band following playing "Hail to the Chief" in a full funk version; with the Donald wearing aviator sunglasses, a fur coat, and more gold chains than Fort Knox.
Because right then, I think the last of the NeverTrumpers will stroke out. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (0QYMt) 333
10 My affection for the rock and roll is greatly diminishing, but that's only because I'm turning into an old fart.
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged Could you please use interpretive dance to illustrate what keeps your booty engaged? Speak slowly idyllic :-) Posted by: BigZesty at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (5hmvM) 334
Because of my deeply humanitarian nature, I would piss on a NeverTrumper, but only if he/she/it was, in fact, on fire.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM Yea, but then they'd accuse you of being a Russian hooker. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (EDSlc) Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (SjImc) 336
You ain't gonna get me to defend 'rock.'
99% of all pop music is garbage. Just utter shit musically, lyrically - especially lyrically. Rock/pop is not art. It just adolescent drama with pretentions that has the luxury of masses that throw time and money down the shitter for fun. Which is to say he's not wrong, but the larger question is : WELL FUCKER, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (LNPd9) 337
Poor Brian Jones was banished to a cubby and Bill Wyman played congas. Keith was on bass.
Yup. Poor Brian had a year to live at that point, and it shows. And yeah, Wyman gave up. But you watch Mick and Keith and Charlie work it out, and Nicky Hopkins, for a while there was organ in there, and really any of the versions would have been excellent but they kept going til they found the version. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (fuK7c) 338
Anyone watch the Lawrence Welk show with their parents? I hated it though every once in a while there would be a hot chick .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (2DOZq) 339
"No one purged conservatives as eagerly and reliably as WFB, so he could be seen as acceptable by urban cosmopolitans."
Posted by: Monty James at April 23, 2018 08:01 PM (95+Xk) That's because I was gay. Posted by: WFB at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (xzV6l) 340
as for rock's relevance, a whole lot more meaning in my songs than in rap or glam teen pop.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (Kuhyt) 341
The reason Rock died was raising the drinking age to 21. When they did that it killed all venues for rock bands to earn their chops and discover their sound. By the early 80s the rock format was so atomized and niche that it was really hard to be original. Then there was the fact that the only way to make money now is via touring. Records sales pay like shit.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (vV/gB) 342
>>334 Because of my deeply humanitarian nature, I would piss on a NeverTrumper, but only if he/she/it was, in fact, on fire.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us You are a better person than I. Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (r9UYA) 343
Because....goddamn turtles are dying from getting straws stuck in their noses.
It's a tragedy!!! We have to DO something!!! Posted by: Snowflake Ukuleles at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (Tyii7) 344
281 "Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh... " Well, there really was a Jethro Tull -- he invented some farming implement called a seed drill. The band by that name, however, had been changing names on a weekly basis so they could get gigs, and the one week they managed to get noticed, their name happened to be "Jethro Tull". Or, as initially translated into American, "Jethro Toe". Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 07:57 PM (fVubI) Who knew? I thought he was a character from a Dickens novel Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (sILsL) 345
Which would you rather listen to. Jethro Tull or Joan Goldberg?
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (EDSlc) Jethro Tull would be fascinating as he described how he developed the seed drill. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt) 346
Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world So there was only one thing that I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long Posted by: Ministry at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (3JQ/p) 347
We Built This Gated Community On Rock and Roll!
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (Ndje9) 348
I have three millennial children. None listen to anything I would call rock and roll. Seems to be a lot of folk stuff.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp) 349
281 "Wait.... Jethro isn't a real person? uyhhhh... "
Well, there really was a Jethro Tull -- he invented some farming implement called a seed drill. The band by that name, however, had been changing names on a weekly basis so they could get gigs, and the one week they managed to get noticed, their name happened to be "Jethro Tull". Posted by: Rob Crawford As a linguist, I know something about the derivation of the "Jethro Tull" band name that perhaps almost no one else knows: First of all, as noted above the group themselves didn't even come up with the name -- it was just a joke name concocted by a booking agent: "Band names [in 1960s London gritty pubs] were often supplied by their booking agents' staff, one of whom, a history enthusiast, eventually christened them "Jethro Tull" after the 18th-century agriculturist. The name stuck because they happened to be using it the first time a club manager liked their show enough to invite them to return." But here's the really funny thing: The "agriculturalist" Jethro Tull invented a "horse-drawn seed-drill" -- basically the foundation of mass agriculture. But before his invention, an individual "seed drill" also had a more rustic name, based on the sound it made as it was pulled out of the wet mud after making the hole for the seed: a "fucking stick." And some linguists think that the word "fuck" was actually derived from the sound that seed drills made as they went "fwuck as peasants went along "fucking" the soil. The new meaning was obviously closely related to depositing seed in a different kind of wet hole. So, back to the beginning of the story, "Jethro Tull" ends up being one of those double-ententre wink-wink-nudge-nudge kind of names (like "Lovin' Spoonful') that only insiders know is a sexual reference. Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (42M22) 350
Who knew? I thought he was a character from a Dickens novel
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (sILsL) That was Uriah Heep. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt) 351
everything from the 1990s was worthless so who cares.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 23, 2018 07:39 PM (MTjB1) Nine inch nails. Pantera. Screeching weasel. Cake. Guttermouth. That's five off the top of my head, and there were many more. 2000-now, on the other hand, is a damned wasteland. My theory is that John Mayer and Coldplay castrated music and tossed its balls into a super-gay volcano. Posted by: The Paolo at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (UiRxW) 352
319 Jonah's mad that accordion never got him tail in high school.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (oVJmc) Word. He should have gone with castenettes. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (o7tuA) 353
MAGA. America has ALWAYS been great. Now it's matter of allowing that greatness to shine through again. Posted by: irongrampa at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (S/hVx) 354
A blues with Jethro Tull
-- Man, that was good, right up to the point where they started singing. Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (roQNm) 355
Tull was in a movie (or maybe a TV show at the time, maybe 196 by the Stones called something like, Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. Just awful. Anyhoo, Tull gave a great performance while everyone else associated seemed to be high on drugs and stunk up the joint. Mick got pissed.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (+Tibp) The Who had a good performance too. But what was anyone thinking of letting Yoko caterwaul and at one point I think she got into a sack and started to roll around the stage. Whatever drugs Lennon was on to be with her should be banned forever Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (SiINZ) Posted by: Backstreet Boys at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (+dsLj) 357
Where does Flash Cadillac fit into this?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk) 358
348 I have three millennial children. None listen to anything I would call rock and roll. Seems to be a lot of folk stuff.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp) So Mumford and Sons. Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (lKs2v) 359
I think Dave Mustaine is a non Lefty."
complete sad trombone lefty when he writes his lyrics. our wars and greed are going to destroy the world you know, not the rest of the world that sucks and needs to catch up with us Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (Kuhyt) 360
We Built This Gated Community On Rock and Roll!
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM Thanks for the ear worm ya bastard! I think that song was voted as one of the worst songs of all time. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc) 361
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:03 PM (Kuhyt)
Music videos hurt the genre. Look at some of the early videos and the musicians are homely at best. Plus virtually none of them are teens. They're people who have put in the time and effort. Rap, hip-hop, and auto-tune moved everything to idiots looking good on the screen. Posted by: WOPR at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (J70i0) 362
"Ian Anderson was the best rock n roll flautist, in part because I think he was the only one. "
Nah. There was one who did some studio work, I heard him on some Mark Knopfler song. Then there was Brock Skywalker with Captain Tractor out of Canada... Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (fVubI) Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (LNPd9) Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (yQpMk) Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (Kuhyt) 366
So maybe I guess Jet with "Are you gonna be my girl"
Posted by: buzzion at April 23, 2018 08:02 PM (lKs2v) One of my favorites. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (2DOZq) 367
Hmm, for me, the last "rock" song that I liked was "R U Mine?" by Arctic Monkeys in 2012 -- mostly because it really recalled old-school hard-rock/metal:
Also because it has some funny retro lyric references. But aside from that, I'd have to go back to abut 2006-8 for any songs worth a second listen. Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 07:49 PM Yeah, Arctic Monkeys are pretty good. Try this Zombie... https://youtu.be/7PqaDl2nr88 https://youtu.be/jhZXW2gGH0w Posted by: otho at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (7xR2D) 368
This was my 2016 shitposting Go To War song, "Wash It All Away", by Five Finger Death Punch.
I've given up On society Up on my family Up on your social disease I've given up On the industry Up on democracy Done with all your hypocrisy All of the chaos And all of the lies I hate it I'm wasting here Can anyone wash it all away? I'm waiting here For anyone to wash it all away Wash it all away I've given up On the media Feeds my hysteria Sick of living down on my knees I've given up On morality Feeds my brutality Fuck what you think about me All of the chaos And all of the lies I hate it I'm wasting here Can anyone wash it all away I'm waiting here For anyone to wash it all away Wash it all away I won't change for you And I can't take the pain There's nothing you can do And there's nothing you can say I've given up On everything Up on everything Up on everything I'm wasting here Can anyone wash it all away? I'm waiting here For anyone to wash it all away Wash it all away I'm wasting here With everyone just wash it all away I'm waiting here For anyone to wash it all away Wash it all away Wash it all away Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 08:08 PM (2kD+f) 369
Monty James 8:01... Excellent points all around, there!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (wSC8T) 370
My affection for the rock and roll is greatly diminishing, but that's only because I'm turning into an old fart.
I'm not real enthused about the rythym and blues, or delta blues, or any of the music that used to keep my booty engaged Could you please use interpretive dance to illustrate what keeps your booty engaged? Speak slowly idyllic :-) Posted by: BigZesty at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM (5hmvM) YouTube has re-enthused me. Santana at Tanglewood. Traffic at Santa Monica. Allman Brothers at Love Valley. Skydog playing Mountain Jam. ZZ Top had even made a comeback, even with their 3 pieces. Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (If3tB) 371
Hit the on ramp, merge, put on Sirius, listen to the Immigrant Song. Offer license, registration, and proof of insurance to the nice officer. Nice officer notes Vietnam Veteran license plate, gives verbal warning. 70 mph means 70 mph.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (xzqr4) 372
>>>Anyone watch the Lawrence Welk show with their parents?
It was my grandparents, and while they adored the show, I couldn't stand it, even as a little kid with undeveloped musical tastes. However, they also watched Hee Haw, which had some amazing performers on there. I really enjoyed watching that. Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (ppaKI) 373
So, back to the beginning of the story, "Jethro Tull" ends up being one of those double-ententre wink-wink-nudge-nudge kind of names (like "Lovin' Spoonful') that only insiders know is a sexual reference.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (42M22) Fascinating...and Loving Spoonful? Please? Blow? Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (o7tuA) 374
I hear the van in Toronto was a full automatic. F*ck the CAA.
- Looks like this was another known wolf attack. Breaking: Van Strikes Pedestrians In Toronto, Killing 9, Driver ID'd As Alek Minassian . . . UPDATE: Bill Bratton Said Known To Police, Terror Suspect Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (+y/Ru) 375
Because of my deeply humanitarian nature, I would piss on a NeverTrumper, but only if he/she/it was, in fact, on fire.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 23, 2018 08:04 PM How can you call yourself humanitarian when you only recognize 3 of the 67 (and growing!) number of pronouns, H8r? Posted by: Desiree Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (kUCyD) 376
The Cowsills really move me.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (r9UYA) 377
So Mumford and Sons.
Posted by: buzzion Exactly! And I think the Lumineers and Parker Milsap. Stuff like that. Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (+Tibp) 378
Jonah Goldberg: I Don't Love Rock n Roll So, he won't be putting another dime in the jukebox baby? Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (GdWl+) 379
Music videos hurt the genre. Look at some of the early videos and the musicians are homely at best. Plus virtually none of them are teens. They're people who have put in the time and effort. Rap, hip-hop, and auto-tune moved everything to idiots looking good on the screen."
----there are good looking rockers and rockers who rocked so hard it didn't matter how they looked. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (Kuhyt) 380
Actually I got really into Nightwish, but then they sacked their second lead singer, Annette Olzon, and brought in Floor Jansen who does NOT impress me at all.
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (2kD+f) 381
Speaking of Sympathy for the Devil, there is a Jean-Luc Godard movie of the same name from 1968.
It intercuts the Stones developing that song in the studio with Marxist diatribes, Black Panther rants, and stupid sixties performance schtick. It is ineffably bad. It can not be abided. But if you get it in on demand and fast forward through all the claptrap you do get to see the song develop. It started out almost folky and ended up a samba. I even did math in my head, Mick was 25 at the time and at the top of his game. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 07:41 PM (fuK7c) The commie shit made me want to kill someone. They could have cut 2/3 of the "movie" out and just showed them working on the song Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (SiINZ) 382
What did they do when Kevin Bacon showed up and taught people to dance?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 23, 2018 07:48 PM (Dp6qK) Heh, guys in Pooky's unit called it "Footloose Town" but there is a form of dancing that we were allowed to practice: Dutch clog-dancing. Posted by: pookysgirl at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (XKZwp) 383
Poor Jonah.
I remember when he used to be geeky and funny. Now he's just uncool. Oh and Rock and Roll, the music, isn't the problem. The problem is sex is god. One of the things Rock and Roll sings about is extra-marital sex, true. But that's not all it sings about. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (xJa6I) 384
Where does Flash Cadillac fit into this? Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk) He's duking it out with Ming the Mercedes Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (SiINZ) 385
"Rock hit or hit by a rock star? Because Kid Rock has had some good ones"
When USS Cole left Aden after the suicide attack, the crew lined the rails and had "Cowboy" by Kid Rock played. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (0QYMt) 386
WELL FUCKER, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2018 08:05 PM (LNPd9) Most 'pop' is usually thought of as horrible by the older set- no matter what time you live in. I will say though that we seem to have gone off the cliff both lyrically and in terms of melody. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (sCUYC) 387
I'm too old to rock and roll but I'm too young to die.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (IqV8l) 388
So Mumford and Sons.
Posted by: buzzion Exactly! And I think the Lumineers" ----------well, most milenial music is sort of ... not sappy ... but like being a teenager stuck in your house on a rainy sunday and mommmmm wouldn't let you use the internet. I think old-timey millenial music is actually an unconscious grasp by the forgotten legacy americans who are now the hated white plurality to grab on to their heritage. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (Kuhyt) 389
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (ppaKI)
Yeah Roy Clark one of the top guitarist ever IMHO. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (2DOZq) 390
I have never been in Cleveland.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (r9UYA) 391
When Jonah isn't writing masterworks covering all aspects of Western Civilization, he spends his free time hamboning in his den.
Posted by: Fritz at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (J7XgW) 392
"We're Flash Cadillac and rock and roll is whatever we say it is."
Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (/A+Cl) 393
"Footloose... kick off your Sunday shoes" Was what they were singing after they came somersaulting through my church doors. And then I choked a bitch....err, I mean a female dog, not a dog per se, but one that just happened to be my daughter. And this guy...I think was Kevin Bacon or something.
Mother was not happy. Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (k5hWy) 394
Okay, so this one time at band camp I stuck my flute up my poop-chute.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (9Hjhc) 395
>>>The commie shit made me want to kill someone. They could have cut 2/3 of the "movie" out and just showed them working on the song
How about the bait n switch in the movie The Killing Fields? Two hours of communist horror ended with John Lennon's "Imagine", a song that basically mirrored the Khmer Rouge's philosophy? Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (ppaKI) 396
373 So, back to the beginning of the story, "Jethro Tull" ends up being one of those double-ententre wink-wink-nudge-nudge kind of names (like "Lovin' Spoonful') that only insiders know is a sexual reference.
Posted by: zombie at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (42M22) Fascinating...and Loving Spoonful? Please? Blow? Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:09 PM (o7tuA) The average male ejaculate fills about a teaspoon. Unless you're Peter North. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I) 397
weft cut-loop, kind of like how Goldberg's 'Liberal Fascism' repackaged Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (6FqZa) 398
You see, hip hop gets a pass, because black people. The micro-analysis that goes on about that filth is mind-boggling. Just keepin it real. Yes, we all need to know how fucked up it is in the inner cities, we must know, we must be told what we as white people created. Fuck that, I'm going to listen to some Dead. Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (AASEZ) 399
>>Yeah Roy Clark one of the top guitarist ever IMHO.
That sumbitch can play like 85 instruments. Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (r9UYA) 400
knew? I thought he was a character from a Dickens novel
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (sILsL) That was Uriah Heep. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt) I always confuse the two Posted by: Northernlurker at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (sILsL) 401
I actually saw Flash Cadillac & tCK in the 70s with ShaNaNa.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (yQpMk) 402
269 ScoggDog
Ahem. Good night all. Work those Plan Bs. We may need them. And remember -- OPSEC, OPSEC, OPSEC. Head on a swivel and have a SECDEF Mattis plan. Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (hyuyC) 403
Go Ask Lucianne.
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (Ndje9) 404
There are a lot of garbage lyrics in rock songs. Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (WJpCY) Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (rznWS) 406
360 We Built This Gated Community On Rock and Roll!
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM Thanks for the ear worm ya bastard! I think that song was voted as one of the worst songs of all time. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc) Yeah, I think that could be said to be the point where rock music jumped the shark. Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (sdi6R) Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (roQNm) 408
like how millenials watch Mad Men don't realize they're longing for an America that was promised to us but their boomer parents pissed away through virtue signal immigration policies coupled with AA policies that made them unemployable...but hey thanks for the $100K in student loans.
Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (Kuhyt) Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 23, 2018 08:14 PM (WJpCY) 410
Ask...
he commie shit made me want to kill someone. They could have cut 2/3 of the "movie" out and just showed them working on the song Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (SiINZ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2D9v50IOE&t=2347s Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:14 PM (If3tB) 411
I am clearly no paragon of virtue, actually a hypocrite in many ways, and a miserable fallen sinner at best. But I tell you plainly as a matter of strict fact that a majority of young folks today have no religious training and therefore no moral compass. They've no idea what 'truth' is and tend to believe any charlatan who is packaged in an attractive outfit.
Posted by: Eromero at April 23, 2018 08:14 PM (zLDYs) 412
I think old-timey millenial music is actually an unconscious grasp by the forgotten legacy americans who are now the hated white plurality to grab on to their heritage.
Posted by: Kuhyt I can see that because they also like the old Sinatra standards and not in an ironic way. They like it. Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (+Tibp) 413
MTV cunt merchandising killed music.
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (1me8P) 414
Where does Flash Cadillac fit into this?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk) He's duking it out with Ming the Mercedes Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:11 PM (SiINZ) *golf clap* Most excellent. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (0QYMt) 415
"Traffic at Santa Monica."
I live there; traffic here sucks. Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (rznWS) Heh. Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (If3tB) 416
I am clearly no paragon of virtue, actually a hypocrite in many ways, and a miserable fallen sinner at best. But I tell you plainly as a matter of strict fact that a majority of young folks today have no religious training and therefore no moral compass. They've no idea what 'truth' is and tend to believe any charlatan who is packaged in an attractive outfit."
"excellent", said Soros and ISIS Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (Kuhyt) 417
I'm a classic rock guy in my marrow, but other than the odd new old discovery it's basically just romping around in my past and remembering the old feelings.
For the last year or more my driving music (and I drive a lot) has been the Real Jazz channel on XM. It's a lot of stuff I sort of knew, but I wasn't really a jazz guy, so I hadn't paid attention. They go through all the eras and all the genres and sometimes have shows where people talk about things and it's a jazz education. Turns out that I like the classic jazz era, which I'll call the 50s to mid-60s. Miles, Coltrane, Ellington, Brubeck. It's fun to find new things to explore, like when I ran out of American cinema and started paying attention to the Japanese. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:15 PM (fuK7c) 418
What's that song by Black Sabbath?
Mr Crowley?? Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter Mr. Crowley was solo Ozzy. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (9Hjhc) 419
@372: " However, they also watched Hee Haw, which had some amazing performers on there. I really enjoyed watching that."
The bangtail on Hee Haw was pretty amazing, too. Well, Lulu Roman and Minne Pearl excluded.... Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (rznWS) 420
Go Ask Lucianne.
Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (Ndje9) When she's 10 feet And if you go chasing rabbits And you know you're going to fall Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (SiINZ) 421
409. In fairness, that - like a lot of Sabbath - is really electric opera. Warpigs could be an aria, FFS.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (fA1SL) 422
348 I have three millennial children. None listen to anything I would call rock and roll. Seems to be a lot of folk stuff.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:06 PM (+Tibp) --- So Mumford and Sons. --- Exactly! And I think the Lumineers and Parker Milsap. Stuff like that. Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (+Tibp) --- You could probably fix this with military school or something Posted by: The Paolo at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (UiRxW) 423
The average male ejaculate fills about a teaspoon. Unless you're Peter North. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I) Oh come on. its like a quart. But Lovin' Quart didn't work. Thats the real story. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (o7tuA) 424
My son, 17, loves rock n roll. I tease him that he is listening to all the bands that I liked in the early 70s. He will recite Rolling Stones stories about songs. Loves Lead Zeppelin and has recorded his own album. The problem he has is there is no place to play as a band anymore.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (vV/gB) 425
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>>Yeah Roy Clark one of the top guitarist ever IMHO. That sumbitch can play like 85 instruments. Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (r9UYA) Him, Buck Owens, Glen Campbell - man those guys could play. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (0QYMt) 426
Exactly! And I think the Lumineers and Parker Milsap. Stuff like that.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:10 PM (+Tibp) --- You could probably fix this with military school or something" ----and to think back in the late 90's, I thought Billy Corgan had turned into too much of a pussy Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (Kuhyt) 427
The commie shit made me want to kill someone. They could have cut 2/3 of the "movie" out and just showed them working on the song
It's intolerable. He even has some commie shit narration over some of the studio footage. I would watch a two hour documentary about the song itself. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (fuK7c) 428
@379: "----there are good looking rockers and rockers who rocked so hard it didn't matter how they looked."
And then there's Shane MacGowan - the many of many words and few teeth. Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (rznWS) 429
First concert I ever attended was Flash Cadillac and the Continental Kids.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (0tfLf) 430
Dave Mustaine is not a lefty. He's solid right of center. Had his James Woods moments on Twitter when the JEF was in office.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (eZowF) 431
there once was an 'ette who's husband was actually in the band Flash Cadillac & the Continental Kids; actually appeared n American Graffiti
g'early evenin, 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (KCxzN) 432
I try to tell my kids about what I'd consider really good, meaningful, ballsy rock and roll.
Then I realize most of this stuff is 40 years old. Do you remember your folks telling you about Guy Lombardo? Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (+Tibp) Posted by: Tuna at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (jm1YL) 434
Oh, by the way: Stryper has a new single out.
It slays and rocks. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (xJa6I) 435
Sorry, didn't read the comments, but:
Has anybody pointed out that there hasn't been a music genre of "rock n roll" since the 1950's? There's been pop, rock, and a kaleidoscope of sub-genres underneath those basic banners since, oh, say, 1964. Get off Jonah Goldberg's Lawn, I guess. Posted by: filbert at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (953wK) 436
183 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 23, 2018 07:44 PM (7ThJ3)
Possibly, I wonder what precisely Bill Buckley "conserved?" I think his running off the Birchers is what doomed America. Posted by: sven10077 at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (SzZnW) 437
This death of RnR could have been caused by Helicopter Parents. Constant hovering can retard a kid.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (vV/gB) 438
401 I actually saw Flash Cadillac & tCK in the 70s with ShaNaNa.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 23, 2018 08:13 PM (yQpMk) Awesome, Grump! Mr. Bassman, who never posts here but does attend MoMees, is their bass player. Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (/A+Cl) 439
My son, 17, loves rock n roll. I tease him that he is listening to all the bands that I liked in the early 70s. He will recite Rolling Stones stories about songs. Loves Lead Zeppelin and has recorded his own album. The problem he has is there is no place to play as a band anymore."
that's great that he's doing it though. I realize that millenials, who are retards, make music the new way because they are cut off from the real world, making real music with real instruments, on the other hand, is good. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (Kuhyt) 440
Jonah, his momma don't dance and his daddy don't rock-n-roll
Posted by: Ben Had at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (cIhy+) 441
Thanks for the ear worm ya bastard! I think that song was voted as one of the worst songs of all time.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc) "Knee deep in the hoopla" indeed. Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (MX7xj) Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (WJpCY) 443
Really Don't Mind if I Sit This One Out
Posted by: Pete Seria at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (2WfB0) 444
"I think old-timey millenial music is actually an unconscious grasp by the forgotten legacy americans who are now the hated white plurality to grab on to their heritage. "
Ever heard "Postmodern Jukebox"? They cover modern hits in styles from the early to middle 20th century. They have two or three versions of "All About the Bass" as a 40s nightclub song, all sung by gorgeous young women. Only way that song's tolerable. Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (fVubI) 445
Him, Buck Owens, Glen Campbell - man those guys could play.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (0QYMt) Yep. We jam all the time. Posted by: Prince at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM (If3tB) 446
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The average male ejaculate fills about a teaspoon. Unless you're Peter North. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I) Oh come on. its like a quart. But Lovin' Quart didn't work. Thats the real story. Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (o7tuA) A quart? Bob, whatever you're doing? Keep doing it. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (IqV8l) Posted by: Jonah Geldberg at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (Ndje9) 449
Roy Clark was one of the Wrecking Crew guys or am I confusing him with someone else?
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (ZvLtE) 450
@385: "When USS Cole left Aden after the suicide attack, the crew lined the rails and had "Cowboy" by Kid Rock played."
When the HMS Sheffield got deep-sixed in the Falklands, the survivors sang "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life." Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (rznWS) 451
there once was an 'ette who's husband was actually in the band Flash Cadillac & the Continental Kids; actually appeared n American Graffiti
g'early evenin, 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (KCxzN) That 'ette still abides. Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (/A+Cl) 452
Thanks for the ear worm ya bastard! I think that song was voted as one of the worst songs of all time.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:07 PM (EDSlc) "Knee deep in the hoopla" indeed. Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 23, 2018 08:18 PM And we can build this dream together, standing strong forever,,,,click, boom, boom, boom...Radio's hate 357 rounds. Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (EDSlc) 453
430 Dave Mustaine is not a lefty. He's solid right of center. Had his James Woods moments on Twitter when the JEF was in office.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (eZowF) That's what I recalled. I think that genre of rock has more than a few what I call, non-Lefties. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (2DOZq) 454
The only thing I can listen to any more is Tedeschi Trucks Band and Govt. Mule.
Posted by: gobagoo at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (2Ia/C) 455
What's it about?
(And don't say "it's about a guy named Mr Crowley") Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter Allister Crowley Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (9Hjhc) Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (sdi6R) 457
His daughter is probably smitten with a guitarist...
Posted by: Not Louis B. Mayer at April 23, 2018 08:21 PM (Y0Ohw) 458
Jethro Tull the seed driller?
Good thing Jethro Tull didn't get noticed the night they went by "insemnination via latex fist shoved up the cow". Aka the "Pink Floyd" Posted by: wooga at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (lgrR2) 459
Joanuh.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (EDSlc) 460
I really do enjoy Lucianne.com though. Much better than Drudge. News stories updated frequently.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (2DOZq) 461
My son, 17, loves rock n roll. I tease him that he is listening to all the bands that I liked in the early 70s. He will recite Rolling Stones stories about songs. Loves Lead Zeppelin and has recorded his own album. The problem he has is there is no place to play as a band anymore.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM my son will be 14 in a couple of weeks & is the world's foremost 13 year old authority on Led Zeppelin...he can't stand the current music...he listens to & plays LZ, Pink Floyd, & Rush Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (KCxzN) 462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2D9v50IOE&t=2347s
Posted by: golfman at April 23 Oh awesome, thanks! Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (fuK7c) 463
The only thing I can listen to any more is Tedeschi Trucks Band and Govt. Mule.
Posted by: gobagoo at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (2Ia/C) Wha. No Jimmy Herring love? Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (If3tB) 464
Goldberg likes Kristol yodeling on his meat flute.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (r9UYA) 465
455 What's it about?
(And don't say "it's about a guy named Mr Crowley") Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter Allister Crowley Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 23, 2018 08:20 PM (9Hjhc) Barbara Bush's dad. Posted by: Monk at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (J567a) 466
A quart?
Bob, whatever you're doing? Keep doing it. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I) Lol! Well Ok i may have spilled some tequila too. But its at least a pint or an once! Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:22 PM (o7tuA) 467
I mean, I can see how we can be wrong, and it's like my parents playing englebert humperfink, but there's always been the split between music tastes:
1 country 2 rock 3 top 40 hits 4 R&B 5. now rap n shit. so, I only listen to rock but I know even back in the day, there were other things floating around. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (Kuhyt) 468
In fairness, that - like a lot of Sabbath - is really electric opera. Warpigs could be an aria, FFS. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:16 PM (fA1SL) I dunno about an aria. Whenever I think of War Pigs, I think of when I went to Ozzfest at Glen Helen Amphitheater in San Bernardino back around '02. The terrifying roar of 60,000 toothless meth addicts singing along with Ozzy. Singing BETTER than Ozzy. Frickin' awesome. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (eXA4G) 469
457. Ahem. His wife's daughter, you mean.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (fA1SL) 470
I love Rock N Roll
I really love Jethro Tull I wish for the days when Jonah Goldberg was just a dribble down his father's thigh Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (3Pma+) 471
Jonah has jumped more than one shark lately. Don't know what happened to the boy, but I think he got mixed up with crazy Silicon Valley Thought Leaders. Where else did NR get all that money and lose all their real talent?
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (vV/gB) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (r+sAi) 473
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE STUFF MORE COCKS UP MY ASS!!!
Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (2kmkW) 474
Singing BETTER than Ozzy.
Frickin' awesome. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (eXA4G) But with the same head bob. Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (If3tB) Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (3Pma+) 476
So did anyone read it and agree with jonah?
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (z3nSX) 477
Roy Clark was one of the Wrecking Crew guys or am I confusing him with someone else?
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (ZvLtE) Glenn Campbell. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (fiGNd) 478
At this point I think Jonah, the Cruise Director, Max Boot et.al. are just trollling for the clicks. While they may be idiots, they're smart enough to realize that a whooole bunch of their former readers really couldn't give a shit what they have to say.
Posted by: random 479
Roy Clark was one of the Wrecking Crew guys or am I confusing him with someone else?
Posted by: Big V at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM not sure about Roy Clark in the Wrecking Crew; I know Glen Campbell was in the crew Posted by: AltonJackson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (KCxzN) 480
On facebutt, the Hoover institute interviewed George Will. I decided to read through the comments. The negative response was -volcanic-. I don't think anyone could be denounced more strenuously.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (rnAwa) 481
Mr. Crowley was solo Ozzy.
What's it about? Alfie Is it just for the moment we live? What's it all about when you sort it out, Alfie? Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (SiINZ) 482
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE STUFF MORE COCKS UP MY ASS!!!
Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (2kmkW Well that was timely. Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (If3tB) 483
I'm kinda jealous though, I've worn out my nuerons on Led Zepplin and Pauls Boutique and a few other albums.
Because of a personal tragedy, I've had Dirt in constant rotation for a month now. It's amazing. Of course, at the same time dirt came out, you could've been listening to Snow, Vince Gil, or En Vogue. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (Kuhyt) 484
so, I only listen to rock but I know even back in the day, there were other things floating around.
Posted by: Kuhyt I know. The 70's were weird. The Carpenters, disco and the Ramones. Go figure. Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (+Tibp) 485
473 WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE STUFF MORE COCKS UP MY ASS!!!
Posted by: Erick Erickson at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (2kmkW) Come here, will flip for it Posted by: Bill Kristol & David Frum at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (3Pma+) 486
Dream Theater & 80's Metal & 70's Metal & rock
Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (y3aQB) Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (2DOZq) 488
You know I once thought Jonah interesting and worth reading. Now he is like the Monkees after I turned 13.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (vV/gB) 489
Guess the last huuuge hit from my youth was Bon Jovi...livin on a prayer
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (CDETr) 490
Jonah has never been the same since the accident.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (UiRxW) 491
Nood noody tunes
Posted by: gNewt at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (1me8P) 492
Jonah has jumped more than one shark lately.
-- He is still drawing a paycheck so he is doing something right. Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (roQNm) 493
469 457. Ahem. His wife's daughter, you mean.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (fA1SL) Rough crowd. Funny... but rough! Posted by: Not Louis B. Mayer at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (Y0Ohw) 494
Dave Mustaine and MD Train of Consequences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G38VlmOib8&snsI =em Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (BYbUF) 495
This guy Jonah Goldberg is a real straitedge ain't he? Me? I prefer my music cutting edge and what was considered hardcore and alternative back in my day...like Cliffs of Dover or Happy Days Are Here Again.
Posted by: George Will at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (k5hWy) 496
And for the record, this country rap crap sucks.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (0tfLf) 497
I'm a classic rock guy in my marrow, but other than the odd new old discovery it's basically just romping around in my past and remembering the old feelings. For the last year or more my driving music (and I drive a lot) has been the Real Jazz channel on XM. It's a lot of stuff I sort of knew, but I wasn't really a jazz guy, so I hadn't paid attention. They go through all the eras and all the genres and sometimes have shows where people talk about things and it's a jazz education. Turns out that I like the classic jazz era, which I'll call the 50s to mid-60s. Miles, Coltrane, Ellington, Brubeck. The local kollidge down here plays that straight-ahead jazz too. No commercials, but National Pubic Rode "news" every hour during the day, so there's 5 minutes of silence. Good stuff. Can't get over their fascination with Billie Holliday, though. Drugged out and couldn't sing a proper song properly if her life depended on it. She ain't the beginnings of a pimple on the ass of the Great Ella Fitzgerald. Now there's a fantastic jazz singer. Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (GdWl+) 498
The word is the Wrecking Crew made The Byrds, Doors and a few other LA bands careers in the studio.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (vV/gB) 499
Oh come on. its like a quart. But Lovin' Quart didn't work. Thats the real story.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 23, 2018 08:17 PM (o7tuA) A quart? Bob, whatever you're doing? Keep doing it. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 23, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I) The guy can fill an olympic swimming pool in minutes. I know, I'll be in the barrel. Posted by: DR.WTF? at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (T71PA) 500
484 so, I only listen to rock but I know even back in the day, there were other things floating around.
Posted by: Kuhyt I know. The 70's were weird. The Carpenters, disco and the Ramones. Go figure. Posted by: Blutarski-esque 00 at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (+Tibp) I confess, I enjoy listening to the Carpenters and some Disco, with a little John Denver thrown in. Karen Carpenter had a beautiful voice. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (Lh6Rk) 501
Stevie Ray Vaughan. Nuff said.
*sniffs* Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2018 08:23 PM (r+sAi) Eh. Very talented. But the longer you listen, the more he sounds like Clapton post 1988. Everything sounds the same. *runs for cover Posted by: golfman at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (If3tB) 502
Goldberg argues that part of the trouble with modern life is the elevation of feelings over facts.
------------------------- Golly. What an original insight! But if he's going to bring rock and roll into it, why specifically so? Why not sentimental pop? Why not primal hip-hop? Hey! How about a column trashing black gospel music for failing to rationally analyze the implications of Arminian theology? Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (0jtPF) Posted by: Snoopy and Woodstock at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (z3nSX) 504
Guess the last huuuge hit from my youth was Bon Jovi...livin on a prayer Posted by: A dude in MI at April 23, 2018 08:25 PM (CDETr) Used to make the mistake of thinking that Bon Jovi was a decent band. Until I realized that they're something the record company cooked up in a lab. EVERY one of their big hits was written by Desmond Child. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (eXA4G) 505
Were any of you guys at Woodstock? I was too young.
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (Lh6Rk) 506
"What's the last big true rock hit you can think of?" All the rock fans I know listen to the same old sh!t from 60s and 70s. Over and over and over and over again. They _insist_ on it, and go apesh!t if somebody tries to change the channel.
Couple years ago I decided I would listen to only new stuff, and never the same cut more than once if possible. My genres are classical, jazz, pop, and there is all kinds of good new stuff in those genres. Spotify makes even the most obscure stuff instantly available, so there's lots of "it's new to me" old music to be discovered. Rock? I don't look for it, so I don't know. I don't want to hear Freebird, Stairway to Heaven, Born to be Wild, Baba O'Riley, Stones, or any of that old stuff anymore! But my poker buddies won't let go of it. Posted by: gp at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (mk9aG) 507
Rock n Roll ain't noise pollution
Rock n roll ain't gonna die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWqg5-9nsSM Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (z79tQ) 508
Don't forget "Sugar, Sugar" by The Archies.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (0QYMt) 509
Mustaine is far more than a non-lefty. The man famously thrown out of Metallica for partying too hard accepted Jesus at some point, sobered out, and became a surprisingly solid conservative.
I didn't know that until he showed up out of nowhere to stump for Rick Santorum. Since then... well, he's been solidly conservative. Actually, if you cross Rick Santorum's general policy stances with Trump's willingness to battle, you're pretty much in the ballpark of Dave Mustaine. Maybe someone should convince him to lose the long flowing metalhead hair (doesn't really go with the Serious Middle Aged Conservative face he's developed) and run for office. We could do worse, and the combination of name recognition, ability to handle the media, willingness to fight, and solid conservativeness is pretty rare to find. Posted by: Locarno at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (HhYvn) 510
So did anyone read it and agree with jonah?
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 23, 2018 08:24 PM (z3nSX) I read it ... and like every damn body else that fancies themselves as the Right and Proper Guardian of Culture ... ... Goldberg has aspirations of Tyranny. Like many Tyrants - for my own good. And again ... when it comes to the Citizen and the State ... I honestly have no fucking idea what example can drop, at this point, to change anyone's mind. Everyone has their ideas. Most of them involve Being In Charge. Posted by: ScoggDog at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (fiGNd) 511
When I was 13-25 I listened to all the classical music I could get a hold of. And now I listen to Muse, Jack White, and classic metal. I am Benjamin Button, becoming younger with time, when it comes to my taste in music.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (rnAwa) 512
Hi, Emmie!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (wSC8T) 513
Good stuff. Can't get over their fascination with Billie Holliday, though. Drugged out and couldn't sing a proper song properly if her life depended on it.
De gustibus non est disputandem. I love Lady Day. Like Edith Piaf, you get the real pain of the world in her voice. She was, by the way, literally hounded to death by an FBI guy. I forget his name, but he was a literal racist who got chided by Hoover for using the word n*gger too much in his reports. He had a grudge against Holiday and had her Cabaret license taken away so she couldn't play NYC venues and basically chased her into fatal heroin addiction. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (fuK7c) 514
Posted by: Locarno at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (HhYvn)
===== Dave Mustaine's Longtime Bass Player Dave Ellefson is a Christian & is an Ordained Lutheran Minister Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (y3aQB) 515
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She ain't the beginnings of a pimple on the ass of the Great Ella Fitzgerald. Now there's a fantastic jazz singer. Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 23, 2018 08:26 PM (GdWl+) Sarah Vaughan was great, too. A couple of years ago I bought a sheet of her stamps at the post office and the black woman working the counter seemed startled and pleased that I knew about her. Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (sdi6R) 516
Oh, Jonah's point: fast music stirs emotions, foments a fashion pose of defiance, and makes the chicks put out easy. Western civ has known this for a long long time. So what? It's art. It's supposed to rock. Let's go after movies and books next.
Posted by: gp at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (mk9aG) 517
Junkies down in Brooklyn are going crazy
They're laughing just like hungry dogs in the street Policemen are hiding behind the skirts of little girls Their eyes have turned the color Of frozen meat Posted by: No no no no no no no no no no no noooo at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (UdKB7) 518
Posted by: Locarno at April 23, 2018 08:30 PM (HhYvn)
DM's state of residency happens to be AZ. I also believe there is a senior senator we haven't heard from lately. Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (OaFqD) 519
Nood
Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:33 PM (Lh6Rk) 520
Nood Toronto hypocrisy from the Left.
Imma goona get mt Goldberg hate on and go listen to some ABBA. Well, really just watch the videos. Posted by: tbodie at April 23, 2018 08:34 PM (tBimT) 521
Jonah's mad that accordion never got him tail in high school.
He would have done well with the recorder... Posted by: t-bird at April 23, 2018 08:34 PM (QxXRY) 522
"What's the last big true rock hit you can think of?" All the rock fans I know listen to the same old sh!t from 60s and 70s. Over and over and over and over again. They _insist_ on it, and go apesh!t if somebody tries to change the channel."
---------this is a boomer problem. A lot of bands they like stopped making new music. Gen X has the same problem now but we're actively looking for newer stuff to listen to. Although Dave Grohl is still creative, for example. Metallica is still out there. I can enjoy I know my stuff is better than boomer music and millenial trash but that doesn't mean you stay static. And, if boomers are anything like me, you may be shocked at how much music you forgot. Spotify and the net can fill you in on all your forgotten stuff instead of listening to the same 10 songs over and over. as well as finding new stuff you may like Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:35 PM (Kuhyt) 523
Were any of you guys at Woodstock? I was too young. Posted by: ALH at April 23, 2018 08:29 PM (Lh6Rk) It's like in prison, everyone is innocent. With hippies over the age of 60, everyone was at Woodstock. And they won't fucking shut up about it. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:36 PM (eXA4G) 524
If Ellefson is a Lutheran minister, maybe someone should ask Megadeth about the whole Google AdWords thing with Concordia Publishing. Mustaine could make some noise on Twitter.
Posted by: Locarno at April 23, 2018 08:37 PM (HhYvn) 525
I dunno, fine, mustaine is not a lefty.
kids should listen to the old stuff if they enjoy it, it is our history. The soundtrack, for example, of Forest Gump may seem like a boomer top 10 list but when I hear Running on Empyt come on, I appreciate as a song and as a piece of heritage. Posted by: Kuhyt at April 23, 2018 08:38 PM (Kuhyt) 526
I'm still really sad Avicci died.
Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2018 08:38 PM (Sp1NT) 527
Hey! How about a column trashing black gospel music for failing to rationally analyze the implications of Arminian theology?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 23, 2018 08:27 PM (0jtPF) It was inevitable. Posted by: John Calvin Music Appreciation Society at April 23, 2018 08:38 PM (tBimT) 528
So did anyone read it and agree with jonah?
Posted by: Prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel Well, I agreed with Jonah, as far as I could since I'm reading it through Judge's filter. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 23, 2018 08:39 PM (6FqZa) 529
I love Lady Day. Like Edith Piaf, you get the real pain of the world in her voice. She was, by the way, literally hounded to death by an FBI guy. I forget his name, but he was a literal racist who got chided by Hoover for using the word n*gger too much in his reports. He had a grudge against Holiday and had her Cabaret license taken away so she couldn't play NYC venues and basically chased her into fatal heroin addiction. Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 23, 2018 08:32 PM (fuK7c) +1 for Billie here. Another tidbit related to her, after Frank Sinatra got too old to do the teen crooner thing, he remade himself as a mature singer by modeling a big part of his phrasing on Billie Holiday. He was very open about that. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 23, 2018 08:41 PM (eXA4G) Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 23, 2018 08:43 PM (rnAwa) Posted by: eleven at April 23, 2018 08:47 PM (+lOpA) Posted by: eleven at April 23, 2018 08:47 PM (+lOpA) Posted by: SarahW at April 23, 2018 08:49 PM (Sp1NT) 534
Oh, No
You gotta go. Who do you write for? I wanna know. I believe you is the government's whore, And keeping peoples dumb Is where you're coming from. Posted by: Packard Goose at April 23, 2018 09:15 PM (eFpXj) 535
Yeah, I think that could be said to be the point where rock music jumped the shark.
Posted by: rickl at April 23, 2018 08:13 I love Rock & Roll, but I get Jonah's point. It's not been exactly supportive of traditional American values in any way. Actually contributed to the degradation of them if you want to be honest. JMHO Posted by: Farmer at April 23, 2018 09:31 PM (yJ1e6) 536
I'm open to reinterpretations of the hits.
Motorhead did an awesome cover of Sympathy for The Devil. And P!nk did an awesome cover of White Rabbit. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 23, 2018 09:35 PM (tM+21) 537
I read the critique of Goldberg, who is trying to hawk a book that basically claims populism and present day conservatism, to the point they overlap, also are mindless emotions. The book's apparent target audience is Never Trumpers and liberals Jonah wants to impress. The rock analysis is not very impressive, because (a) as ace noted, science indicates emotion is the foundation from which reason eventually emerges and (b) the argument is stale and has been around since the '50s.
As to the latter, Goldberg's assertion is unoriginal to say the least. If you watch the film "Crossroads" from '86, it resists the assertion rock is worthless emotion and then mucks that thesis up when the protagonist triumphs over blues lovin' Satan via Beethoven. Goldberg's claim, at least via the Daily Caller, is the same although it works backward to reach the same conclusion as "Crossroads." And, of course, "Crossroads" inadvertently gives voice to the same criticism of rock that has been recycled since its inception. In fairness to Goldberg, he apparently references more contemporary rock than Jethro Tull, which essentially is a zombie band with only one original member. But based on this excerpt, he does dwell on the Zombie Tull. I look forward to not buying Goldberg's book. Maybe there are enough Tom Nichols' in the world to prop up what, based on this excerpt, appears to be a trainwreck. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 23, 2018 09:35 PM (0F/tn) 538
Vive La France!
Posted by: beckydotData at April 23, 2018 09:42 PM (uiI3M) 539
First thing I thought when I started reading this was "sounds like Allan Bloom". Wasn't quite sure I quite got it when Allan Bloom wrote it. But then, I wasn't exactly a rock and roll fanatic.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at April 23, 2018 10:17 PM (BVQ+1) Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at April 23, 2018 10:19 PM (VE1y7) 541
No, we don't reason "intuitively" we are created capable of reasoning but that's as far as it goes. The rest is nurture, or lack thereof, that brings forth wisdom from knowledge.
Posted by: Deacon Bleau at April 23, 2018 10:39 PM (yScAF) 542
These soaring eagles have lost their god damned minds.
Posted by: TJ at April 23, 2018 10:39 PM (OTO8q) 543
"...and who piously recite received wisdom as if they were mullahs, telling the rest of us we should be more rational."
You're on fire. This is why we love you. Posted by: Born Free at April 23, 2018 10:41 PM (y7Mkd) 544
Sorry, no, Ace. We do NOT reason first from feeling. We *ACT* first from feeling. We learn to subordinate feeling to reason as part of growing up. So we learn to act from our reason instead of our feeling.
And faith is not entirely feeling. Reason is bent to the service of faith, as well. I don't just feel like God exists, I'm convinced he exists, too. Sometimes you seem blinded by your emotions. Posted by: GWB at April 23, 2018 10:58 PM (IEo5i) 545
"539 First thing I thought when I started reading this was "sounds like Allan Bloom". Wasn't quite sure I quite got it when Allan Bloom wrote it. But then, I wasn't exactly a rock and roll fanatic."
Goldberg definitely has tried to repackage Fifties-era tent revival rants against rock as "The Closing of the American Mind." Wonder how much more of Jonah's earlier work, which wasted my eyes and time, was unoriginal and cribbed conventional wisdom? All of it? Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 23, 2018 11:00 PM (0F/tn) Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 23, 2018 11:01 PM (H5rtT) 547
The last great rock song that left any cultural impression was probably Seven Nation Army by the White Stripes. Jack White is pretty much the last gasp of the great rock and roll era.
Posted by: Brisco_County_SR at April 23, 2018 11:59 PM (k6NDF) 548
Not one of you doing all the commentating here has read Goldberg's book (it was released at midnight tonight), just Ace's interpretation of some other guy's interpretation of the point Goldberg was trying to make. Yet you don't let that get in the way of your seething outrage. Pathetic. This site turned into Little Green Footballs so gradually I barely noticed.
Posted by: DFG at April 24, 2018 02:05 AM (9uEHW) 549
Little Green Footballs?!!! LMAO! I was thinking the exact thing of NRO since they advocated electing Hillary Clinton and are now pimping Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti for President in 2020. Ace hasn't changed, Trump has just broken the elite "conservative" pundit class and turned them into whiny, emotional little girls.
Posted by: Trigger Warning at April 24, 2018 03:00 AM (YRXy3) 550
The origins of rock and roll were as a counterweight to the imposed uniformity of military training during WWII and the Korean War.
The LEFT-right-LEFt-right cadence became the left-RIGHT-left-RIGHT of syncopation And thereby achieved a balance. Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at April 24, 2018 04:48 AM (EMi53) 551
Cue ' It's Too Late To Apologize' please.
Posted by: Tim from Nashua at April 24, 2018 07:28 AM (EATOD) 552
(this may be my first post - though i've been reading for years - be gentle)
It seems weird for Jonah to go after Rock at this point in time. More and more it seems a type of music relegated to the oldies stations. My 16 year old couldn't think of a single rock song that his high school classmates would all know. Posted by: Jeffrey at April 24, 2018 07:40 AM (FsRGZ) 553
Why give Goldberg this much space?
Posted by: Henry Lee at April 24, 2018 07:54 AM (c/+wS) 554
Isn't religious feeling felt intuitively and not rationally?
No. There is no conflict between faith and reason albeit some things are beyond mere human understanding. See St. John Paul II's encyclical Fides et Ratio!! Posted by: dad29 at April 24, 2018 07:59 AM (7Kti7) 555
On why would Jonah Goldberg say what he did? Look at the comments here. It is controversial. That sales. Why pick rock to go after in particular? I'm going with it is because he knows his audience. Teenagers aren't going to read his book, but old farts that love Rock n Roll might. Last thought on the cultural significance of Rock n Roll (or its descendants). I was at the Hard Rock cafe in Boston a couple days back. They would be better titled the "Pop Rock" cafe these days, but I did hear "What does the Fox say?". My wife thinks Left Shark is culturally significant. Make of that what you will.
Posted by: Jeffrey at April 24, 2018 08:45 AM (FsRGZ) 556
You are full of sh ace. Feelings are 98% useless. Example: giving birth. All the anxiety of months and the pain of hours are water under the bridge when the baby and the mother are healthy at the end. Most feelings are like that. Water under the bridge. Relic software.
I don't know what "moral feelings" are. Maybe you can enlighten me. Maybe not all that is not thinking should be called feeling as in that case it is just a bucket. Even with "moral feelings" on they are 99% consistent with utilitarianism, if you think about true utilitarianism not the straw man of Hollywood movies. Posted by: ahzoo at April 24, 2018 10:04 AM (wK745) 557
You just misunderstood Goldberg and argued against conservatism. Aligned yourself with the snowflakes, the most recent expression of this pagan religion.
There's an imaginary geography we all place ourselves on and that determines our political inclinations. Imagine a village surrounded by a fence surrounded by forest. At the center of the village you have the "pillars of society", makers of human rules, definers of "us". Those are conservatives they fear nature and try to contain and control it. As you move from the center towards the fence the human component (thinking) weakens and the animal component (feelings) gets stronger. You get from liberals to anarchists to the witch that sits on the fence between the human world and the natural one. They generally want to blow things up. Cultural and political history is the story of the fight between the people in the center of the village and the people near the fence. Which one are you? We all like rock and roll but what he points out is something else. Rock and roll is a backdoor valve, is a bypass mechanism to our frontal lobes. Fine if you can handle it but not everyone is as aware. Nobody arguing banning rock and roll, just awareness. Posted by: ahzoo at April 24, 2018 10:39 AM (wK745) 558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTIbsEXYP4A
Posted by: aelfheld at April 24, 2018 10:48 AM (IxDhF) 559
It would take forever to unpack what's wrong with both Goldberg' and with Ace's takes. But consider this: note how strong an emphasis both Aristotle and Plato put on TRAINING the emotions; on seeing to it that we have good responses, emotionally. And they were certainly among the most rationalist of thinkers.
Rock is mostly crap. Partly this is true because whatever is produced, at any time, is mostly crap. But it was made worse by the impossible degree self importance of the musicians themselves, and of their most devoted fans. It created a culture in which people actually discussed the "meaning" of shit like Inagodadavida and MacArthur Park. They did. I was there. Its only virtue was the laughter it could provoke. Not to say some good stuff didn't come out. But even then, it's been all down hill since Who's Next. (I'm really just talking of the rock I know, mostly the 60s and 70s. Sometime in the 80s I just tuned out pop culture. And could not be happier about that.) Posted by: George LeS at April 24, 2018 10:51 AM (/ki+X) 560
I hear Jonah also really tore into swing music, saying it came from the devil.
There was a recent headline on Drudge asking why rap was getting a pass from the #metoo movement. Apparently Jonah is following good deep-state practices (DSP?) when it comes to double standards and selective outrage. He knows full well that if he takes on Jay-Z et al., his CNN gigs would be gone, his special exemption pass for house conservatives will be revoked. Posted by: Cato at April 24, 2018 07:36 PM (wX++C) Processing 0.08, elapsed 0.104 seconds. |
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