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Sunday Morning Book Thread 04-22-2018

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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, and I'll bet you thought nothing could look more ridiculous than those stupid pussy hats, didn't you?


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

A CHILIAD is a group of 1,000.

Usage: Nobody really knows exactly how many carrots there are in a chiliad.



Moron Author Wins Award

From e-mail:

So last month moron author William Alan Webb, aka me, won the 2018 Darrell Award for a fantasy novella titled A Night At The Quay, which is part my book Sharp Steel>.

The Darrell Awards are fairly prestigious in the industry, having been around since 1996, and while they aren't the Hugo or Nebula they are in the next tier down from those.

Sharp Steel: Sharp Steel and High Adventure Volumes 1-3 is available on Kindle for $2.99.

Bill also tells me:

Still getting bashed by liberals for my post apocalyptic Last Brigade series, but sales of book one have passed 20k copies so I must be doing something right.

I've mentioned the Last Brigade series before, so here are quick links to the books in the seies:

Standing the Final Watch
Standing in the Storm
Standing at the Edge

Getting bashed by liberals is a good thing. It means you're on target.


Schadenfreude

comey - forbidden loyalty.jpg

A couple of you morons have asked whether I was going to do anything with James Coney's soon-to-be-released memoir, A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership. There's not much I want to say about it. It's not a book that many of you are interested in, except to ridicule it. Which is fine.

I read the title and the first thought that came to mind was 'what a sanctimonious gasbag.'

Truth: The Press, the President, and the Privilege of Power was written by another sanctimonioua gasbag, Mary Mapes, the CBS producer who lost her job in the RatherGate scandal (along with Dan Rather) when the 'investigation' of George W. Bush getting special treatment in the Texas Air National Guard she was responsible for blew up in the network's face.

So this book is basically Mapes doubling down on stupid.

And speaking of doubling down on stupid, the funniest one of all has to be Trump is F*cking Crazy: (This is Not a Joke) by Keef Olbermann, not so much for the title, but for the cover that has a very silly photo of KO wrapped up in an American flag. He doesn't look so much like a brave patriot as much as a bum down at the homeless shelter trying to get out of the rain under a tarp he just grabbed. Other than that, it sounds like a calm, rational, balanced, honestly written book.


Moron Recommendations

294 I recommend Reinhold Niebuhr's Moral Man and Immoral Society. I have memorized the first 200 pages.

Posted by: Jumbo Jim at April 15, 2018 11:32 AM (5gaNQ)

I had heard of this book, but did not know very much about it:

Moral Man and Immoral Society, first published in 1932, is Reinhold Niebuhr’s important study in ethics and politics. Forthright and realistic, it discussed the inevitability of social conflict, the brutal behaviour of human collectives of every sort, the inability of rationalists and social scientists to even imagine the realities of collective power, and, ultimately, how individual morality can overcome social immorality.

Sounds quite interesting. And a real bargain on Kindle for $3.82.


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'Ette votermom recommends The Last Closet: The Dark Side of Avalon by Moira Greyland. Greyland is the only daughter of science fiction/fantasy author Marion Zimmer Bradley and convicted child molester Walter Breen. I have not read this book, but let me warn you: it is not for the squeamish. I mean, we're talking years of child sexual abuse here. So yeah, I guess this is a trigger warning.

Votermom's review can be read here.

Books By Morons

[Update]: This just in:

94 Hello Horde! Back at Christmas OM was kind enough to give some great exposure to my book Shagging, Shooting and Death on Amazon, and there was immediately a spike in sales. I thanked you all the next week for the sales. At the time some said $9.99 was too high a price for an unknown author's book. I've been after my publisher about it & finally they agreed. So my comic novel (no politics, just fun) is finally on sale for $4.99. Wanted you all to know, because you were the ones who suggested/inspired this, and sales have increased. It's only on sale right now through April 28, so if you thought about buying it but the price put you off, it's been cut in half for now. Thanks again to any that bought and read it. It's been a dream come true.

Posted by: Biblio at April 22, 2018 09:59 AM (iD3mK)

Here is the blurb for Shagging, Shooting & Death:

If Jane Austen & Charles Dickens had been writing at the same time, gotten really drunk and written a novel together, it may have started something like this...

In 1820 Lady Annabella Upton-Church was young, pretty and one of the richest women in England.

She was also one of the most despised.

Reputation destroyed, suspected of murder, with no friends or family at her side, Annabella flees London for the country, set on restoring her name and reputation away from the sneers, shouts and snubs of that great city.

It seemed like a good idea at the time...

If Annabella had known it would all lead to shooting and death she might have made another plan.

On the other hand, there is the shagging...


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Moronette 'votermom' is putting together a list of moron authors over on the Goodreads site which is intended to be accessible to non-members. Here is the list she has compiled so far. Let her know if there's an author she's missing.

http://www.bookhorde.org/p/aoshq-authors.html

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




Comments

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1 Stacked!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 08:52 AM (qJtVm)

2 Holy moly, that Comey cover.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 08:54 AM (y87Qq)

3 I have fallen down 10 chiliads of steps.

Posted by: Hillary! at April 22, 2018 08:55 AM (89T5c)

4 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 08:55 AM (V+03K)

5 Tolle Lege
Still reading The Ionian Mission from the Aubrey/ Maturin series, more than halfway its getting good.

Posted by: Skip at April 22, 2018 08:55 AM (aC6Sd)

6
"The Chiliad" recounts the adventures of Odysseus as he tries to find a good bowl of red in the City of Troy.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2018 08:57 AM (9q7Dl)

7 Maaa-a-a-a-nnn! I just got to the EMT comments.

Oh, that's right. I got nothing to contribute 'cause I don't read books anyway.

Never miiiii-i-i-i-nnd.

Posted by: mindful webworker - same old story link at April 22, 2018 08:58 AM (qpKia)

8
Looks like Jimmy Drama is picking JugEars' pocket.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 08:58 AM (eXA4G)

9
Either that or giving a handy.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 08:59 AM (eXA4G)

10 That new and improved college lieberry is in tune with a Charlie Brown cartoon I saw on WRSA....

Linus talking to girl in class:
"No one is going to give you the education you need to overthrow them."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 22, 2018 08:59 AM (EoRCO)

11 Read 'The Disappeared' by C. J. Box. It's his latest about Wyoming game warden Joe Pickett. My only complaint is it ends with a cliffhanger so now I'll have to wait until next year for his next book in this series. Bastid!

Part of the book's plot involves wind turbine farms. Last January I drove from Florida to Washington state and there are hundreds if not thousands of those wind turbine monstrosities polluting the landscape. But they make the greeny/watermelon crowd happy. Although the only green thing about them is the cash people make from them.

Some head music.

Barcelona Tribe of Soulsters-The Sun
https://youtu.be/ldO27eTNnhU

Dire Straits - Six Blade Knife
https://youtu.be/sbIy_ay9TtU

XTC - Runaways
https://youtu.be/0gQo_lXw2zg

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 22, 2018 08:59 AM (8EJVd)

12 Morons libraries look so neat. I probably don't belong here. :^)

I recommended this "book" a few days ago because I wasn't sure I would be on the book thread. Cured- 81 Natural Cures for all kinds of things including Alzheimer's Diabetes, cancer, chronic arthritis and others. I am not a doctor and don't play on on T.V. I also have no connection with this company whatsoever. I just appreciate how it talks about vitamins and minerals and giving up certain foods instead of relying on meds (And no, I 'm not knocking meds, I've used them myself often.

This is merely my anecdotal evidence, but I have been affected by chronic pain. I took some of the Vitamins and minerals recommended, am getting off sugar and removed nightshade plants such as Potatoes, tomatoes and eggplant from my diet and haven't had pain since. Haven't had to rely on aspirin or advil for pain since doing that which is nice.

You can't order this book. It comes as a "gift for a donation for the natural healing newsletter,
Nutrition and healing.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2018 09:01 AM (tpDAe)

13 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I purchased Standing the Final Watch and Standing in the Storm many months ago, and finally started reading them this week. I finished Standing the Final Watch pretty quickly, and was glad I already had the next one.

Interesting concept, not so far in the future as to be space fiction, good cast of characters.

It could use some editing, but I love the story and am looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

Posted by: April at April 22, 2018 09:01 AM (e8PP1)

14 Being Earth Day and shit, Kindle daily deals offers "Silent Spring" at a discount. How many more millions have to die before this scrunt and her BS book are fully discredited? I
regret she didn't die from malaria.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 09:02 AM (V+03K)

15 YAY bookthread!!!

nice library lurking Moron, very neat

Oregon, thanks for linking my review of Moira's book

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:02 AM (hMwEB)

16 Keep wanting to organize my Kindle and Nook books into something I can understand. Need a program that would help list them by author or categories. Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough, but have a hard time putting books onto a SD card on my Kindle.

Posted by: Colin at April 22, 2018 09:03 AM (PxbBb)

17 For those who are interested in a take-down of Comey's book, Amanda Green is planning to shred it chapter by chapter on Sarah Hoyt's blog. She's finishing her synopsis of Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals first though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 09:03 AM (rp9xB)

18 Morning!

Over the years, I read Terry Pratchett teamed with other writers.. Neil Gaiman, Stephen Baxter.. But I've never read any of his solo works!

So.. I decided this week to start on his Discworld series and bought the first in that series "The Colour of Magic" at a used book store the other day.. first real book I've bought in years!

I have yet to crack it open, however.. that kinda week...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2018 09:04 AM (5tSKk)

19 That picture of the empty library is coming...sooner than we realize.

Posted by: Colin at April 22, 2018 09:04 AM (PxbBb)

20 No comfy cushion for a library cat in that photo...

Posted by: Hambone at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (dZw75)

21 I am on a free kindle unlimited trial right now, and working on the Amy Lynn series. OSP is an amazing story teller.


Also I just reviewed The Scandalous Presidency of Barack Obama for occasional lurker Matt Margolis. Its also on my blog, which is always in my nic.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (hMwEB)

22 Jake Holenhead, I read that one a couple of weeks ago also. I was delighted that he's moved on from putting wife and daughters in mortal danger. Looks like Sheridan may start to be an asset to him, and I like that development.

This isn't the first time he's written about wind turbines--it's pretty clear he's not a fan, and he's great at illustrating the problems with them, and the dirty politics that get them built.

Posted by: April at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (e8PP1)

23 So, I'm going to start releasing some sort fiction at the beginning of next month. One collection of short stories every month for the next few months.

Please check the link in my nic and consider some preorders.

Thanks!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (Jj43a)

24 Amazon suggested to me, "Thirteen Moons" by Christopher Degrazia so I bought it, read it, liked it.

There is a lot of emotion in the beginning; longing for a past once lived long ago by someone who seemed to have lived that past. (Do the math here, assume 15 years old in 1917, carry the one - 132 years old in 2017? That can't be right.)

Something mysterious about silver nitrate film back in the day. Good fun.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (roQNm)

25 The pants in the "these pants" photo in the link are a hoot. The jokes and snide remarks write themselves.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (V+03K)

26 12 Morons libraries look so neat. I probably don't belong here. :^)

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me too Fen!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:06 AM (hMwEB)

27 I've been too consumed with my writing over the last couple of months to read like I should, but I'm in the middle of God Emperor of Dune. I'm enjoying it a fair amount, to be honest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 09:07 AM (Jj43a)

28 Since the Coen did such a good job of tooling Looney Clooney in "Hail, Caesar" they should up the ante and give that hilljack prettyboy the lead role in "Bathtub Boy".

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2018 09:08 AM (y7DUB)

29 Errrr Coen brothers..

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2018 09:09 AM (y7DUB)

30 Spent last weekend in Houston, with a table for my books at the San Jacinto Symposium, put on by the Texas State Historical Association. I took along the second Owen Parry book to read, but misplaced the book somewhere along the way. Alas, I have barely read anything of note this week, since I am setting up the guest bathroom for a spot of renovation ... and prepping the sixth Luna City installation for release next weekend...
I did thumb through the June, 1975 issue of American Heritage magazine that I bought at a massive book sale two weeks ago ... found a blown-in card for subscribing to the magazine, $24 dollars for 6 issues. This was when it was a hardbound version without advertising; I guess whoever donated this issue to the library sale had never cracked that volumn.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at April 22, 2018 09:09 AM (xnmPy)

31 Nice Library. I see lots of old friends on the shelves.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 22, 2018 09:09 AM (hyuyC)

32 23 So, I'm going to start releasing some sort fiction at the beginning of next month. One collection of short stories every month for the next few months.


==

yes, TheJamesMadison is not just about movies.
Who else is shocked?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:10 AM (hMwEB)

33 Usage: Nobody really knows exactly how many carrots there are in a chiliad.

Since a chiliad is 1K, and carrots in chili are a very clear division within The Horde, so much so, that one can characterize it as binary, therefore, the number of carrots in a Horde chiliad is 1024. It's computer science!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 22, 2018 09:10 AM (DMUuz)

34 Brad Thor is allegedly in consideration to be 2020's Evan McMuffin. I'm a big fan of his novels, but I don't know what he's thinking here.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at April 22, 2018 09:10 AM (Er9Tf)

35 I finished the history of the battle of Okinawa on the way down here to Mississippi and I bought a new bood for the way back: "The Pentagon's Brain" by Annie Jacobsen. Anyone ever read it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 22, 2018 09:11 AM (SYiiL)

36 Congrats to William Alan Webb!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:11 AM (hMwEB)

37 Recommended here previously, I read American Sanctuary: Mutiny, Martyrdom, and National Identity in the Age of Revolution by A. Roger Ekirch. This is an interesting history of the mutiny aboard the HMS Hermione of the west coast of Puerto Rico in 1797. Among the mutineers to make to American shores was Jonathan Robbins, who claimed to be an American citizen from Danbury, CT who was impressed into the British navy.
When President John Adams sanctions Robbins' extradition, his subsequent hanging becomes a major topic in the presidential election of 1800 and allows Jefferson a narrow victory. The case is also used to write sanctuary and extradition laws for years to come. It's an interesting little known stroy with large consequences.
I also read Cibola Burn, the fourth in the Expanse series, by James S. A. Corey (Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck). In this excellent space opera series, this book tells the story of the first planet outside our solar system to be colonized by humans. The authors have created an interesting world, the action is fast paced, and the tension builds throughout the book.

Posted by: Zoltan at April 22, 2018 09:11 AM (RKP6T)

38
Keep wanting to organize my Kindle and Nook books into something I can understand. Need a program that would help list them by author or categories. Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough, but have a hard time putting books onto a SD card on my Kindle.
Posted by: Colin at April 22, 2018 09:03 AM (PxbBb)







Calibre is pretty much the gold standard, and it's a free download.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 09:12 AM (eXA4G)

39 32 yes, TheJamesMadison is not just about movies.
Who else is shocked?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:10 AM (hMwEB)

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Me for one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 09:14 AM (Jj43a)

40 I have yet to crack it open, however.. that kinda week...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2018 09:04 AM (5tSKk)


The really good news is that TCoM is actually one of the weaker books in the series. Not that it isn't great, but IMO they get even better fast once he catches his stride.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 09:15 AM (y87Qq)

41 Moral Man and Immoral Society ... my Dad was real into Niebuhr, even had written letters to him and (iirc) got some replies, and name me after him (not my first name fortunately, and "Dad" was gone when I was three). I haven't yet read the whole book ... reading a little at a time leaves me in deep contemplation, trying to process the ideas for current application.

Some other study found people will accept behavior in a group they would otherwise reject. It is the group think and peer pressure thing, but good groups are an essential part of surviving against the bad groups. America is exceptional in recognizing God given liberty, yet organizing as a strong country (group) under limited government.

So the bad groups prefer to stay in the shadows, and culturally infiltrate all the good groups. But Trump winning brought those evil groups (NWOs like Bush/Clinton/Muellers) out to fight, and their evil is being exposed, thought that outcome is still uncertain.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 22, 2018 09:15 AM (bT8Z4)

42 It's been a goof-off week bookwise.

Still working on "John Dies at the End" because it's my bedtime read and I can only get through a few chapters before conking out. I dig it, for the few minutes I'm conscious.

Reading a collection of SF short stories, "New Skies" (2003) that I bought for 50 cents at a library sale. It's a good collection from heavy hitters like Connie Willis, Philip K. Dick, Orson Scott Card, Spider Robinson, et al. Is the SF short story going away? Do people still read Analog and other monthly anthologies? I hope not.

https://tinyurl.com/y7dd6zbv

Also loving volumes 1-3 of Invader Zim comix which captures the acid freakiness of the animated show (God how I miss it!). Could have used some Professor Membrane though.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 09:16 AM (qJtVm)

43 Posted by: April at April 22, 2018 09:05 AM (e8PP1)

Agreed. I hope he writes more books about detective Cassie Dewell from his Badlands book.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 22, 2018 09:16 AM (8EJVd)

44 Since a chiliad is 1K, and carrots in chili are a very clear division within The Horde, so much so, that one can characterize it as binary, therefore, the number of carrots in a Horde chiliad is 1024. It's computer science!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 22, 2018 09:10 AM (DMUuz)


Wouldn't that be a chibiad?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 09:16 AM (y87Qq)

45 For Sgt. Mom: There's an author coming to San Antonio on Thursday whom you might want to meet! I forget the name of the bookstore (The Twig, maybe?), but the lady's name is Barbara Ortwein; she's from Germany and has published a trilogy, first in German and now in English, about the Adelsverein. I'm hoping to get to go to her reading in Mason--*if* I can start feeling better between now and then.

Not much happening here otherwise. RL has interfered again, so I'm not going to have Loyal Valley: Diversion finished for next weekend after all, but I am still making a bit of progress as I'm able. Recording lectures on Twain (Connecticut Yankee), Tennyson ("The Lady of Shalott"), and Kipling (Just So Stories) today if I can get up the steam.

*waves to all and sundry*

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at April 22, 2018 09:19 AM (wbY28)

46 I should clarify that I meant "I hope the SF short story is not going away".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 09:20 AM (qJtVm)

47 A thousand pints of chili with carrots is still a chilibad.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2018 09:20 AM (5tSKk)

48 Well, I haven't been reading much lately, but I have been on the road a lot and despite being unemployed and in dire need of money have ended up with a lot of new books this week.

I went to a large used bookstore in Knoxville to sell some CDs I wasn't interested in keeping, and ended up walking out with a bunch of books including The Ecological Indian: Myth and History by Shepard Krech, a book that has been on my wishlist for a long time, Diana Everett's book on the Texas Cherokee, Babbitt's A Devil of a Whipping: The Battle of Cowpens, an old book on making duck decoys, and a book on the organization of the Continental Army.

Friday I went to the Knoxville Kentucky Rifle Show and ended up buying Jerry Nobles' four volume set Notes on Southern Rifles, basically a bunch of photographs of muzzleloading rifles from the South East US. I also got a little booklet by Jim Webb on gun worms and cleaning jags.

I'm starting to run out of shelf space again.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 22, 2018 09:21 AM (bZ7mE)

49 I thought the Chiliad was an epic poem about the 10 year war over carrots in chili, fought with longbows and crossbows.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:21 AM (hMwEB)

50 Oh, yes I'm reading "Master's Indwelling" by Andrew Murray. Murray was a prolific writer and was also a pastor in South Africa. He lived from 1828-1917 and his book "In the School of Prayer with Jesus"- or something like that- is one of my favorites. He has a almost lyrical style of writing ncouragement for the Christian life.

I have to say this about many Christian
writers from that time period I have read, including R.A, Torrey and Henry Foster. They had a passion for their faith and communicating the truth, beauty and power of it that some Christian writers seem to be lacking today.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2018 09:22 AM (tpDAe)

51 We morons could easily fill that empty library.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at April 22, 2018 09:24 AM (/A+Cl)

52 That photo of the sterile, empty library is actually disturbing. And ominous.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 09:24 AM (V+03K)

53 I have to agree with Zoltan and everyone else who recommended The Expanse series. I went through the series like chocolate covered crack, and I'm not a sci-fi fan at all. Really enjoyed it.
We have seen miles and miles of wind farms while traveling in our RV. I hope the farmers make some good money off the things. They are disconcerting on the landscape out west, but sometimes it's the only thing you see for miles. We were at a truck stop during a storm and a flatbed carrying a blade WAS stopped next to us. They are enormous, people were taking pictures of it.

Posted by: Abby at April 22, 2018 09:24 AM (AfGF2)

54 Posted by: Zoltan at April 22, 2018 09:11 AM (RKP6T)

Glad you enjoyed American Sanctuary; I'm still slowly making my way through it. In addition to the points you made, it also points out that we've always had people in our midst with problematic ideas of granting non citizens identical rights and protections as citizens.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2018 09:24 AM (y7DUB)

55 I thought that tweet on the library was very good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2018 09:24 AM (tpDAe)

56 Brad Thor is allegedly in consideration to be 2020's Evan McMuffin. I'm a big fan of his novels, but I don't know what he's thinking here.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at April 22, 2018 09:10 AM (Er9Tf)


He's a #Nevertrumper. He has made several public statements disparaging Candidate/President Trump but has seemingly given Hillary! Clinton a pass. I had earlier read a couple of his books and, frankly, wasn't overly impressed.

His public stance has made it even easy for me to strike his off my "To Be Read" list despite his popularity as an author.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 09:25 AM (5Yee7)

57 I cracked up laughing the other day while perusing Amazon for some more reading material. Comey's book was listed as a Best Seller. Just how many members of the media have to buy a book for that to happen?

Posted by: no good deed at April 22, 2018 09:25 AM (eIQHF)

58 56
He's a #Nevertrumper. He has made several public statements disparaging Candidate/President Trump but has seemingly given Hillary! Clinton a pass. I had earlier read a couple of his books and, frankly, wasn't overly impressed.

His public stance has made it even easy for me to strike his off my "To Be Read" list despite his popularity as an author.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 09:25 AM (5Yee7)

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I read one. Some guys snuck into North Korea it something. It was perfectly serviceable entertainment, but nothing terribly special.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 09:27 AM (Jj43a)

59 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 09:20 AM (qJtVm)

I don't know about the mags, but in the indie world, as a friend of a friend put it, "Anthologies are the new black." In fact, said friend just came out with one called Twin Earth Anthology that's YA sci-fi; the premise is that Earth and Venus are twin planets and there's a conspiracy to keep the humans on each planet ignorant of the inhabited nature of the other.

https://www.amazon.com/Twin-Earth-Anthology-Caitlin-McCulloch/dp/1980357234/

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at April 22, 2018 09:28 AM (wbY28)

60 Morning all! I have been noticing recently that the majority of traffic on my website (www.monroestpress.com) appears to be coming from Texas. I get twice or three times as many visits from there as from any other state or country. So I'm thinking we should do a book fair, festival or author event in Texas sometime. Any recommendations?

Posted by: Secret Square at April 22, 2018 09:28 AM (9WuX0)

61 Ugh.

Most of my reading time's been taken up with learning more about Technical or Analytical Stock Trading.

I've decided to look at Day and Swing Trading as a way to help keep my portfolio on a more even and upward path during these downturns.

I'd like a little more control if that's possible.

Anyway, I'm reading about an indicator called the "Ichimoku Cloud", which is another Japanese way of looking at changing prices.

And goes well with the "Japanese Candles" that pretty much everyone uses to analyze stocks, etc.

It claims to be somewhat predictive, bu-u-u-ut like most indicators it appears to actually be a lagging indicator.

The IC certainly makes your charts look busy and seems complicated. And when it works it works very well, of course it doesn't always work.

Otherwise, I'd already be on a beach in Hawaii drinking Mai Tais.


In all honesty, it seems the best day and swing traders which I've observed/studied don't use more than trendlines, some resistance areas, and 3-4 patterns to make money.

It's early days though and I need some way(s) to help confirm what I'm thinking....therefore...

looking at Ichimoku Clouds right now

Between that and writing...not much other reading getting done.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2018 09:29 AM (9q7Dl)

62 Encountered a fantastic children's book, Goldilocks and the Three Dinosaurs. Extremely silly and suitable for Morons of all ages--but let's face it, for all our birth certificates say we are 29 our mental age is around three. Featuring "a Father Dinosaur, a Mother Dinosaur, and a third dinosaur visiting from Norway." So already it has triggered half a faculty's worth of SJWs right there. Also, the moral is "if you find yourself in the wrong story, LEAVE." Useful wisdom for life, I say.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 22, 2018 09:29 AM (L59/U)

63 Speaking of Moron authors winning awards, Old Sailors Poet snagged one just recently for his character Amy Lynn. Mike Hammer even got him to sign a book. Volume Five is titled Amy Lynn Hatchet.

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Speaking of word power, let's try that ne? "When it came to doing the right thing, Gaylord Merkin Focker the Wurst was most assuredly not impavid; with him what mattered was pleasing himself."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 09:30 AM (5lYqE)

64 52 That photo of the sterile, empty library is actually disturbing. And ominous.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 09:24 AM (V+03K)

I thought it would make a good venue for a bridal photo shoot.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:30 AM (hMwEB)

65 btw I'd heard Niebuhr had become a figure to study in some seminaries over recent decades. Beck put him in with the SJW types that tried to ??? I forget what the claim was, but basically to try to make America more communist. That was in the 30's I guess, but Niebuhr was for WW2, and for stopping such aggression. Of course the (successful) commie states may achieve more from infiltration and population "diaspora" than from war.

By the 50's, the invasion of "communism" into our government was well under way. The Eastern Bloc had been "surrendered" to the Soviets, and older history shows Roosevelt and even Lincoln had their own red infiltration. But I don't have the scope at this point to see what Niebuhr had to do with the commie infiltration.

The key point seems to be that we need self reliant moral men to build an adequately moral (as immoral social structures go) society. The PC Religion is the complete opposite of that, as Orwell showed in the late 40's. But mostly the PC/commies have been winning, and even LBJ and Kennedy had their Jarrett style Reds whispering in their ears.

good book, I'll read a little more of it today.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 22, 2018 09:31 AM (bT8Z4)

66 He's a #Nevertrumper. He has made several public statements disparaging Candidate/President Trump but has seemingly given Hillary! Clinton a pass. I had earlier read a couple of his books and, frankly, wasn't overly impressed.

His public stance has made it even easy for me to strike his off my "To Be Read" list despite his popularity as an author.


Been a long time since I read any of his books, but IIRC his heroes were very secretive anti-terrorist government group of dubious adherence to the law that wasn't above planting child pron on a reporter's computer to get the reporter to stop trying to expose their operations. Left a bad taste in my mouth, and it does suggest that he might not be sympathetic towards those trying to eradicate the Deep State.

I might be getting him mixed up with someone else, but I can't think of whom.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 22, 2018 09:32 AM (bZ7mE)

67 A plethora of chiliads.

Posted by: ¡Yeb! at April 22, 2018 09:34 AM (2835Q)

68 A CHILIAD is a group of 1,000.

Usage: Nobody really knows exactly how many carrots there are in a chiliad.


Um, 1000?

Posted by: rickl at April 22, 2018 09:35 AM (sdi6R)

69 Thanks for recognizing the brilliance of my suggestions, but I, and I alone, am the incarnation of the "good" group. Bow, peasants!

Posted by: Jumbo Jim at April 22, 2018 09:37 AM (5gaNQ)

70 I really like the sci-fi collection of lurker's library, some things I've really enjoyed and a few I may try out.

I bought John Ringo's "Live Free or Die" yesterday, after reading about him being no-platformed at a comics convention for being "Puppy-Adjacent". Sarah Hoyt has the details.

Posted by: motionview at April 22, 2018 09:37 AM (pYQR/)

71 Reading One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. It's not very good but, as my husband told me while laughing his ass off, I will finish it anyway because I am too damn stubborn to let a bad book beat me. It's a grudge match to the end.

Posted by: Sisqui at April 22, 2018 09:38 AM (ienGK)

72 That empty library will look stylish when all of the books are shelved backwards. Think of the subtle color gradations of the page edges.

Posted by: rickl at April 22, 2018 09:38 AM (sdi6R)

73 I am enjoying the Sword of Honor trilogy, by Waugh, but I may have to look at Neibuhr's tome to see what all the fuss is about.

Posted by: CN at April 22, 2018 09:39 AM (5gaNQ)

74 Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at April 22, 2018 09:28 AM (wbY2

That looks intriguing. It is now on my list.

I'm glad anthologies aren't going away. SF in particular is so suited to exploring one idea within the confines of a short story.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 09:39 AM (qJtVm)

75 OT I get annoyed at hubby watching Bill Maher but the episode he's watching has Jordan Peterson on.
He kinda looks like Rick Grimes.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:39 AM (hMwEB)

76 I read one. Some guys snuck into North Korea it something. It was perfectly serviceable entertainment, but nothing terribly special.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 09:27 AM (Jj43a)


That was my verdict. I have thousands of books in my personal library; I have no need to help an author that is mediocre and hates what I believe. Donny Two Scoops has sure caused a lot of these supposed "Conservative" people to drop their masks and make it painfully obvious that it was all an act in order to part the Deplorable rubes from their cash.

Not really OT, since this is the Book Thread, is the Oh so Woke ™ GQ virtue-signaling and letting us know that the Bible is an "Over-Rated" book. It is beyond tedious listening to these Lefty Progs snipe at Christianity and Judaism while their simultaneous silence about Mohammadism is deafening.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 09:40 AM (5Yee7)

77 17 For those who are interested in a take-down of Comey's book, Amanda Green is planning to shred it chapter by chapter on Sarah Hoyt's blog. She's finishing her synopsis of Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals first though.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 09:03 AM (rp9xB)

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Fortunately for Mrs. Green, her husband keeps the liquor cabinet well-stocked.

Posted by: Blake at April 22, 2018 09:41 AM (WEBkv)

78 71: And it certainly has made psychiatry a hated sort of specialty ("Um, no, we're not going to hurt you, and nobody will drag you to shock therapy"

Posted by: CN at April 22, 2018 09:42 AM (5gaNQ)

79 I love anthologies. Short stories are perfect for reading when going walkies.

Posted by: anderson cooper at April 22, 2018 09:43 AM (bdAve)

80 Conspiracy to keep the Venusians and Terrans from knowing each other exists?

Scully, "Mulder, are we on one of your quixotic quests again?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 09:43 AM (5lYqE)

81 I bought John Ringo's "Live Free or Die" yesterday, after reading about him being no-platformed at a comics convention for being "Puppy-Adjacent". Sarah Hoyt has the details.
Posted by: motionview at April 22, 2018 09:37 AM (pYQR/)

"Puppy-Adjacent"!!! Ha!

If they're doing this to an established author, even one who doesn't GAF like Ringo, it's time for convention alternatives. But I hate fracturing the fan community even more. Don't they realize the military and conservatarian types are a solid block of SF and comics fandom?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 09:44 AM (qJtVm)

82 It is beyond tedious listening to these Lefty Progs snipe at Christianity and Judaism while their simultaneous silence about Mohammadism is deafening.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 09:40 AM (5Yee7)


In all honesty, I can't consider them anything but hypocritical hacks,

if they don't turn similar (or worse, cuz look who's doing what in the world today) fire on the Koran and Muslims.

Don't get upset or angry, that's what they want.

Laugh at them and their stupidity. They hate that.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2018 09:45 AM (9q7Dl)

83 You don't care about the NAMBuLA award, and the Hugo is equally rigged and useless now.

Posted by: anderson cooper at April 22, 2018 09:45 AM (bdAve)

84 Read 'The Disappeared' by C. J. Box

Me too.

Posted by: JT at April 22, 2018 09:45 AM (aiRER)

85 John Ringo won't care, he'll keep laughing all the way to the bank while writing another Paladin of Shadows novel with even more killing of bad guys and BDSM.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 09:47 AM (5lYqE)

86 ugh, sock.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 09:48 AM (bdAve)

87 I cannot believe ya'll have actual book shelves and stuff.

Me, I have two piles: "read" and "too read" with "in process" distributed around the house.

Working on: "The Path Between the Seas," The History of the Peloponnesian War" and a book which is a seres of Nero Wolfe short stories.

Posted by: Blake at April 22, 2018 09:49 AM (WEBkv)

88 If they're doing this to an established author, even one who doesn't GAF like Ringo, it's time for convention alternatives. But I hate fracturing the fan community even more. Don't they realize the military and conservatarian types are a solid block of SF and comics fandom?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 09:44 AM (qJtVm)

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Tim Allen's show, "Last Man Standing," which was known to be a solid ratings producer, was canceled, most likely, over politics.

My point being that these people are so ideologically driven, they'll destroy anything and everything they find objectionable even if it hurts their bottom line.

Posted by: Blake at April 22, 2018 09:54 AM (WEBkv)

89 12 ... I picked up a couple of books from the library yesterday on the use of herbs for medical matters. "Medicinal Herbs" and "Alchemy of Herbs". Haven't started them yet but they get a massive (thousands) number of five star reviews.

I'm interested in the historical use of herbs in medicine, especially on a frontier. And while I am not anti-modern medicine, I find my doctors' immediate recourse to pills is less than satisfactory. I'll discuss the books more in a future book thread.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 09:54 AM (V+03K)

90 And it certainly has made psychiatry a hated sort of specialty ("Um, no, we're not going to hurt you, and nobody will drag you to shock therapy"

Posted by: CN at April 22, 2018 09:42 AM (5gaNQ)

I've been listening to several business and productivity books and experiments run by "social scientists" are a big part of that. My main take-away is that social scientists are *terrible* people who view other humans as simply interesting gizmos and who build their experiments with absolutely no concern for the long-term affects on the subjects.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 09:55 AM (rp9xB)

91 Don't get upset or angry, that's what they want.

Laugh at them and their stupidity. They hate that.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2018 09:45 AM (9q7Dl)


Correct; that's why I called the Lefty Progs "tedious." Their arguments are intellectually dishonest and lazy.

It is helpful that they are running around screeching hysterically. I think that a lot of the LIV "normals" are viewing the Lefties in a new light and don't like what they are seeing. GQ going out of its way to insult Christians is probably a sub-optimal approach if you want to establish a Transnational Socialist "utopia." The Lefties are turning up the heat too fast and the frogs are jumping out of the boiling water.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 09:56 AM (5Yee7)

92 Scott Hahn's The Lamb's Supper is a fun read but I feel it's doing two things at once.

First it is arguing for an intimate connection between the Divine Liturgy (Mass in the Latin Rite) and John's Revelation. There's a further connection with the Johannine literature and John's Gospel. This renders a good argument but I don't buy that the John of the Revelation was literally the Apostle, nor that either of them is the Beloved Disciple of the Gospel. More engagement with the scholarship is needed.

Second the book is, er, celebrating the Mass. Hahn loves the liturgy which he believes (rightly) is a human expression of G-d's parousia. (I'm not saying it is or isn't; just this is how the Mass is designed.) This makes Hahn wax effusive. I felt like shouting 'alleluia' at several points. Which is fine, but I'm trying to engage with an argument; so I need a more sober approach to it.

To sum up, if someone other than Hahn (who is biased) could tackle this topic, I'd love to read more on it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 09:56 AM (bdAve)

93 I actually read Ringo's Ghost a while ago because of all the hand-wringing.
Major eww.
But his other books are great.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:57 AM (hMwEB)

94 Hello Horde! Back at Christmas OM was kind enough to give some great exposure to my book Shagging, Shooting and Death on Amazon, and there was immediately a spike in sales. I thanked you all the next week for the sales. At the time some said $9.99 was too high a price for an unknown author's book. I've been after my publisher about it & finally they agreed. So my comic novel (no politics, just fun) is finally on sale for $4.99. Wanted you all to know, because you were the ones who suggested/inspired this, and sales have increased. It's only on sale right now through April 28, so if you thought about buying it but the price put you off, it's been cut in half for now. Thanks again to any that bought and read it. It's been a dream come true.

Posted by: Biblio at April 22, 2018 09:59 AM (iD3mK)

95 I think herbs and plants have medicinal value but it drives me nuts when people think they are always harmless.

Just because something might help liver function doesn't mean you can just drink it every day if you already have a healthy liver.

Anything effective will have side effects. TNSTAAFL.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 10:01 AM (hMwEB)

96 Voter Mom yeah Ringo really ran the BDSM for all its worth in that series but I think the one about nukes in Myanmar and a rogue Chinese general might have been too too far since he has the general systematically torture and break a female Chinese secret agent and this was after Mike had already played a dominance game with her. *shudder*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:02 AM (5lYqE)

97 I thought chilliad was what the Greeks did when they were just hanging around the beach at Troy.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at April 22, 2018 10:02 AM (nBr1j)

98 I am on a free kindle unlimited trial right now

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I read a Kindle Unlimited novel this week, Breakthrough by Michael C. Grumley. I give it a qualified recommendation. It is sort of a combination of Day of the Dolphin, Dr. Strangelove, E.T., and Ice Station Zebra with a touch of The Hunt For Red October and sprinkled with Seven Days In May. It is an exciting and fun action thriller with enough plot for a half dozen books. The characters are rather one dimensional but it's not supposed to be War and Peace. It's supposed to be Clive Cussler and Robb White tripping balls. This would be a good book for a young reader in the boy's adventure category.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 22, 2018 10:02 AM (+y/Ru)

99 OK, about speculative fiction short stories...there *used* to be any number of paper magazines available (the term "pulp fiction" comes from that). So many, with healthy circulation, that writers could make a decent living just writing short stories. Now, not so much. Only a few majors, their circulation numbers have dropped off a cliff (helped along by the demise of Borders and the soon-to-be-in-hospice Barns and Noble), and their editors are frequently hard-core SJW which just sucks the fun out of everything.

Writers go where the money is. Anthologies exist, but they tend to be invite-only (the ones that make money, anyway) which means already established names. Indies have tried multi-author anthologies but then you get the name recognition issue and they don't do as well. Plus, you have the financial headache of splitting the income although BundleRabbit has a way to handle that easily now.

It is sad...I like a good short story as much as anyone but the market has a huge bottleneck. I think what will have to happen is the rise of indie editors--people who can pick out really good stories that go well together. But then you have the problem of getting the stories, and the Horrors of the Slush Pile which are not for tender Moron ears

Anyway, there still are *some* online or electronic magazines, and new ones showing up. Pulphouse for example has been resurrected from a 20 year sleep. (Full disclosure: I have stories either coming out or already published there). As always, if you find a publication or anthology that you like, post a short review! That helps keep it going.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 22, 2018 10:03 AM (L59/U)

100 Not long after the book came out I found a review on Amazon for Captain Vorpatril's Alliance in which the reviewer noted Tej describing Gregor as "hatched faced" and that Bujold had used the same description once and only once before in the series, when Cordelia first encountered Bothari. Of course I had noticed this too, and blown right past it... while SumReviewer explicitly speculated that Bothari was Gregor's father. Given Serg's and Vorrutyer's worst habits it's possible, and Gregor could have learned this from his pre-wedding gene scan (probably not before, otherwise he wouldn't have had the paranoia about Vorish inbreeding). That would only add to his interest in the GhemVorbretten case, right? But I haven't been able to find this theory anywhere else on the intertubes.

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:04 AM (0ReGO)

101 I actually read Ringo's Ghost a while ago because of all the hand-wringing.
Major eww.
But his other books are great.
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 09:57 AM (hMwEB)


John Ringo is an author with whom I am pretty simpatico with his politics but he ventures into "sexually precocious pubescent female" territory more than I like.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 10:04 AM (5Yee7)

102 I'm in the middle of Amy Lynn Hatchet. I'll finish later today instead of cooking dinner and cleaning my bathroom....

Posted by: lin-duh at April 22, 2018 10:05 AM (kufk0)

103
Anyway, there still are *some* online or electronic magazines, and new ones showing up. Pulphouse for example has been resurrected from a 20 year sleep. (Full disclosure: I have stories either coming out or already published there). As always, if you find a publication or anthology that you like, post a short review! That helps keep it going.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at April 22, 2018 10:03 AM (L59/U)

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Independent publishing!

You get lost in the morass of the Kindle store, but at least it's something.

Oh, and I'll be releasing some soon. Check out the link in my nic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 10:08 AM (Jj43a)

104 Now that is some thin speculating, gossamer thin at that with all the light showing through of Bothari being Gergor's real father. But then again look at how many people chase after Atlantis in the real world just because Plato mentioned it once.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:08 AM (5lYqE)

105 John Ringo is an author with whom I am pretty simpatico with his politics but he ventures into "sexually precocious pubescent female" territory more than I like.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 10:04 AM (5Yee7)


Is that him? Someone did a MST3K-style "let's read" thread on another forum and wow... no. Nononono.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:10 AM (y87Qq)

106 Kyle Harper's The Fate of Rome is the latest in a looooong string of books explaining how the Roman Empire declined and became a small Balkan despotate. But it brings new information to the table. Spoiler alert: it is bad to catch the bubonic plague.

The Romans had good technologies and were EXCELLENT engineers at leveraging (heh) what they knew. But what they didn't know was how to deal with epidemics.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM (0xomh)

107
John Ringo won't care, he'll keep laughing all the way to the bank while writing another Paladin of Shadows novel with even more killing of bad guys and BDSM.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 09:47 AM (5lYqE)






OH JOHN RINGO, NO

https://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM (eXA4G)

108 Invader Zim comics ? I miss that show, too.
Back before we cut the cord, cartoons were about all I watched anymore. Regular Show and Adventure Time were other favorites.

Shopping on Craigslist for a few more bookshelves to get all of my books out of boxes & tubs. On that happy day, pictures will be forthcoming.

A Little Free Libary box in a nearby town yielded up "Kidnap, the story of the Lindbergh case" by George Waller, which I am finding quite interesting - so many details that I never knew !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 22, 2018 10:12 AM (Mbmmf)

109 when I'm chilliadin', I call my weed the Trojan Horse. Because when it gets into you, you get wasted.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 10:12 AM (0xomh)

110 Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:04 AM (0ReGO)

Captain Vorpatril's Alliance was the first I read, so no making connections to previous books for me. Also, since I usually listen to them I tend to miss any tiny details or potential Easter eggs.

For me, the book was very like a (much) more explicit Georgette Heyer romp that just happened to take place in a far-flung star empire.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:13 AM (rp9xB)

111 OH JOHN RINGO, NO

https://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM (eXA4G)

This is required reading, as is the Piers Anthony addendum.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 10:13 AM (qJtVm)

112 Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:10 AM (y87Qq)

Someone here linked to the "No, John Ringo, No!" article a while back. Yeah, the article is hilarious and I still felt icky afterwards.

My other problem with Ringo is that he *Never!* finishes a series. He gets 3-4 books in and then wanders off to a new thought.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:15 AM (rp9xB)

113 *checks out Baen*

David Weber has another Honor Harrington novel coming out. Uncompromising Honor. And it takes about sixteen words for him to write Honor's name because he likes throwing all her titles out there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:16 AM (5lYqE)

114 Lol, I wrote that before realizing it had been linked again.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:16 AM (rp9xB)

115 OH JOHN RINGO, NO

https://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM (eXA4G)


Same title, different forum.

I think they invited him to the range and he showed up and then accidentally dinged some poster's BMW tossing an empty magazine or something.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:17 AM (y87Qq)

116 Polliwogette, I got to listen to Ringo at a con in 2010 and he freely admits that is is his problem. Far too many ideas for him to finish anything.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:17 AM (5lYqE)

117 I'm currently reading Ivor B. Hart's 1924 Makers of Science, an excellent historical/biographical history of science. I'm also reading Sanity by Neovictorian - a fascinating conspiracy thriller.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at April 22, 2018 10:18 AM (NhF/Q)

118 My other problem with Ringo is that he *Never!* finishes a series. He gets 3-4 books in and then wanders off to a new thought.

Ensuring everyone knows my name, and has to keep buying my other crap just to shake the jones? Not seeing the downside. *eats 'nother burger*

Posted by: georgey martin at April 22, 2018 10:18 AM (0xomh)

119 I'm in the middle of Amy Lynn Hatchet. I'll finish later today instead of cooking dinner and cleaning my bathroom....
Posted by: lin-duh at April 22, 2018 10:05 AM (kufk0)

You are too kind. Glad you like it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:19 AM (rLyG8)

120 I was wrong, it was only fourteen words if you count her hyphenated last name as one word.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:20 AM (5lYqE)

121 Not really OT, since this is the Book Thread, is the Oh so Woke GQ virtue-signaling and letting us know that the Bible is an "Over-Rated" book. It is beyond tedious listening to these Lefty Progs snipe at Christianity and Judaism while their simultaneous silence about Mohammadism is deafening.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 09:40 AM (5Yee7)


Let me tell you that as a Christian, I really enjoy having the Bible explained to me by lefty progs who know absolutely nothing about it. That always goes down well.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (DXfIG)

122 Reading Relax and Win by Bud Winter (actually, the 2012 edition with Jimson Lee).

A $35 paperback, very simple, with a self-published feel to it, but the premise- for me- is very important: getting to sleep and sleeping well is a skill anyone can acquire with practice.

Not a rigorous book at all, very anecdotal. The main thrust of the book is relaxation and its benefits, but it's the sleep thing (and with it, recovery) that's the main selling point for me. And it's starting to help.

Posted by: t-bird at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (Zdm89)

123 *waves to OSP*

I see you escaped the nefarious flammable resin trap at the PILOT.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (5lYqE)

124 OSP,
I LOVE the whole Amy Lynn series!!

Posted by: lin-duh at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (kufk0)

125 95 ... "I think herbs and plants have medicinal value but it drives me nuts when people think they are always harmless."

votermom, I agree completely. As I learned about these two books they were careful to tell readers the downside of an herb as well as the benefits and not to over do it. I found such caution reassuring. The books seem to stress an approach, not a panacea.

I'll find out this week if the good reviews were deserved.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (V+03K)

126 So.. I decided this week to start on his Discworld series and bought the first in that series "The Colour of Magic" at a used book store the other day.. first real book I've bought in years!

I have yet to crack it open, however.. that kinda week...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2018 09:04 AM (5tSKk)

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Colour (learn how to spell, Britain) is not the best place to start with Pratchett, I consider it as proto-Pratchett. His second Discworld, The Light Fantastic, is much closer to what he later became.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at April 22, 2018 10:22 AM (qPaGp)

127 You know what would be a great book? "The Deplorable Doctor" by the Horde. Hangover cures, exercise routines, ways to quit smoking/drinking, all around health tips.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 22, 2018 10:23 AM (l9m7l)

128 I listened to an audiobook for the first time in my truck. It's not even close to reading. It's a different activity altogether. I'm not sure what I was expecting. Anyway, I think I'm becoming a Grisham fan. yes, I know, he's farming stuff out. But I enjoyed "The Chamber."

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:23 AM (rLyG8)

129 I got some free books by John Ringo through amazon prime. I'm starting on There Will Be Dragons.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 22, 2018 10:24 AM (rnAwa)

130 The Deplorable Doctor?

There would be a whole chapter on how to treat bleeding head wounds. And another chapter on how to drink your way through a hangover.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:24 AM (5lYqE)

131 OSP,
I LOVE the whole Amy Lynn series!!
Posted by: lin-duh at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (kufk0)

I don't know if you have or not but us indie authors live and die by reviews. If you haven't, I would be grateful. If you have, thank you. It means a lot.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:25 AM (rLyG8)

132 I'm reading The Air Raid Killer by Frank Goldammer. It is a descent into Hell. Goldammer, a Dresden native, tells the story of a police detective trying to stop a serial killer who uses the cover of air raid warnings to hunt his victims in late 1944, early 1945. Meanwhile, the Russians are approaching, the city is jammed with refugees which causes shortages of everything, children walk barefoot in the snow, people know that defeat is looming but express such an opinion will get you executed and fanatic Nazis roam the streets looking for Jews. Our hero and his wife worry about their two sons in the military, our hero's superior is an incompetent Nazi eager to write the murders off as Jewish sabotage to undermine moral before the coming final battle. I assume the story will climax with the great firebombing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 22, 2018 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)

133 Let me tell you that as a Christian, I really enjoy having the Bible explained to me by lefty progs who know absolutely nothing about it. That always goes down well.

AND WE RILLY KNOW GUNS TOO!!!

Posted by: lefty progs at April 22, 2018 10:26 AM (sXZq9)

134 since this is the Book Thread, is the Oh so Woke GQ virtue-signaling and letting us know that the Bible is an "Over-Rated" book.

What were GQ's presumably-northern-European ancestors doing at the time the Bible was being written? Oh right, raping sheep and shearing women

Posted by: georgey martin at April 22, 2018 10:26 AM (0xomh)

135 Reading "Unholy Terror: Bosnia, al-Qa'ida and the Rise of Global Jihad" by John Schindler before he lost his fucking mind, I hadn't connected the dots between the end of the jihadis kicking the Rooskies out of Afghanistan and the start of the Bosnia problems in earnest. Bastards! Complicity or stoopidity by the MFM; they aren't mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2018 10:27 AM (y7DUB)

136 I don't know if you have or not but us indie authors live and die by reviews. If you haven't, I would be grateful. If you have, thank you. It means a lot.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:25 AM (rLyG



Boy, that's the truth.

If anyone's gotten through Volume 1 and/or 2 of "Wearing the Cat",

please leave a review on Amazon.

*big puppy eyes*

Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2018 10:28 AM (E3rQ4)

137 The Deplorable Doctor?

Yer gonna need a bigger doctor...

Posted by: Hillary, mid-flight on her way in to the van at April 22, 2018 10:28 AM (y3sT9)

138 Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2018 10:27 AM (y7DUB)

I always painted the serbs as the bad guys. Maybe not?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:28 AM (rLyG8)

139 Let me tell you that as a Christian, I really enjoy having the Bible explained to me by lefty progs who know absolutely nothing about it. That always goes down well.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (DXfIG)


The Lefty Progs are cowards; they are comfortable telling Christians all about the shortcomings of the Bible but nary a peep about the Koran.

While tedious, that kind of behavior is actually helpful in making the "social pendulum" swing back towards anti-Collectivism and pro-Christianity. LIV "normals" perceive how the different sides behave.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 10:29 AM (5Yee7)

140 *reads the John Ringo article*

Oh John Ringo... no. (I'm not quoting any of this sh!t)

Posted by: georgey martin at April 22, 2018 10:31 AM (0xomh)

141 I listened to an audiobook for the first time in my truck. It's not even close to reading. It's a different activity altogether. I'm not sure what I was expecting.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:23 AM (rLyG


It really is, and I've found that even books I've read many times before have some little things that I never caught until I hear someone else narrate them. It's kind of eye-opening to realize how many passages I skim and how many details I elide when I hear something that I could've sworn wasn't even IN the book - I've read the stupid thing six times, I should know what it says!

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:32 AM (y87Qq)

142 Serbs and Croats have been vying for centuries for the title of the Baddest Killers in the Balkans. Tito was the only thing that kept Jugoslavia together after WWII since that country was a Frankenstein creation of the Great War conjured from the corpse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire..

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:32 AM (5lYqE)

143 Having a hard time with socks today.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 10:32 AM (0xomh)

144 >>> 104 Now that is some thin speculating, gossamer thin at that with all the light showing through of Bothari being Gergor's real father. But then again look at how many people chase after Atlantis in the real world just because Plato mentioned it once.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:08 AM (5lYqE)

Ha! Quite so, one shared description can hardly prove that was Bujold's intention. It's just a morbidly funny possibility given all the fuss about the various named and un-named heirs.

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:34 AM (0ReGO)

145 Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:32 AM (y87Qq)

The first Amy Lynn will be on Audiobook in May. I have heard snippets, but I am dying to know how it comes across.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:36 AM (rLyG8)

146 *phew*

Title of a Horde anthology - Ransom of the Book Thread???

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:37 AM (5lYqE)

147 Does anyone know the demographic for GQ? Judging by the covers I see, I imagine it's the same as those Axe body wash products: 13 year olds who are 99 percent hormones, half a percent fantasy, and half a percent brain to keep their breathing reflex functioning.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 10:37 AM (V+03K)

148 139 Let me tell you that as a Christian, I really enjoy having the Bible explained to me by lefty progs who know absolutely nothing about it. That always goes down well.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:21 AM (DXfIG)

The Lefty Progs are cowards; they are comfortable telling Christians all about the shortcomings of the Bible but nary a peep about the Koran.

While tedious, that kind of behavior is actually helpful in making the "social pendulum" swing back towards anti-Collectivism and pro-Christianity. LIV "normals" perceive how the different sides behave.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 10:29 AM (5Yee7)

I see them as teenaged girls telling daddy they hates him, yes they does.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 22, 2018 10:37 AM (nBr1j)

149 Good morning, Book Horde! I got a few books over the week. I picked up several of the "Year's Best Horror Stories" anthologies from the 70s & 80s off ebay. I also got "Peter The Great Humbled: The Russo-Ottoman War of 1711" by Nicholas Dorrell, which is the only book on the subject AFAIK. It's small, but has lots of nice color plates of uniforms. And I didn't pay for it, thanks to some gift cards I've had saved.

Posted by: josephistan at April 22, 2018 10:38 AM (ANIFC)

150 Is the thread back?

*pants*
*spits*

I may throw up.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:38 AM (y87Qq)

151 It is a descent into Hell. Goldammer, a Dresden native, tells the story of a police detective trying to stop a serial killer who uses the cover of air raid warnings to hunt his victims in late 1944, early 1945. Meanwhile, the Russians are approaching, the city is jammed with refugees which causes shortages of everything, ....Wrangler at April 22, 2018 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)

I read Panzer Warfare on the Eastern Front by Hans Schäufler a few years ago. Actually an English translation of Der Weg War Weit (1971), it is a collection of first-person accounts of various incidents of German soldiers during fighting with the Russians in WWII. The collapse in 1944 makes pretty grim reading.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 10:38 AM (5Yee7)

152 Posted by: Biblio at April 22, 2018 09:59 AM (iD3mK)

I stuck your sale announcement up in the content section. Hopefully, it will get better visibility.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:38 AM (DXfIG)

153 If we're having a contest for cocky, sanctimonious titles, I nominate the following two, in reverse order:

2. Daniel C. Dennett, Consciousness Explained. One of the most incomprehensible things in existence, and he writes a book saying, "I figured it all out, everyone can go home now." In fact, he basically writes that consciousness can't be explained in his materialistic terms, so instead he tries to look at what materialism could provide instead. This has led some critics to suggest the title should have been Consciousness Ignored or Consciousness Explained Away.

1. Friedrich Nietzsche, Ecce Homo. "Ecce homo" is a Latin phrase from the Vulgate Bible. Pontius Pilate says it when he introduces the tortured Christ to the masses to ask them whether or not he should crucify him. It means "Behold the man". Nietzsche chose this as the title for his autobiography. The chapter titles -- you're going to think I'm making these up, but I promise I'm not -- are "Why I Am So Wise", "Why I Am So Clever", "Why I Write Such Good Books", and "Why I Am a Destiny". And then he went insane.

Posted by: Jim S. at April 22, 2018 10:40 AM (ynUnH)

154 127 You know what would be a great book? "The Deplorable Doctor" by the Horde. Hangover cures, exercise routines, ways to quit smoking/drinking, all around health tips.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 22, 2018 10:23 AM (l9m7l)

1. Slap hot iron to it.
2. Cover with a maxipad.
3. Affix maxipad with duct tape.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 10:40 AM (NWiLs)

155 I have been asked to be in a few anthologies. I always say no because I'm saving my good stuff for me and I never know what the good stuff is until people tell me. All the stuff I think is cool people shrug their shoulders at. The stuff they think is cool is more often than not, produced thoughtlessly from the subconscious. I know, sounds goofy but it's true. However, I WOULD write a story for a Horde anthology.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:40 AM (rLyG8)

156 Oh so Woke

https://bit.ly/2qT4zzL

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 22, 2018 10:41 AM (+y/Ru)

157 Friedrich Nietzsche, Ecce Homo. "Ecce homo" is a Latin phrase from the Vulgate Bible.

Mark Mothersbaugh, Jocko Homo

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

158 The chapter titles -- you're going to think I'm making these up, but I promise I'm not -- are "Why I Am So Wise", "Why I Am So Clever", "Why I Write Such Good Books", and "Why I Am a Destiny". And then he went insane.
Posted by: Jim S. at April 22, 2018 10:40 AM (ynUnH)


Shush, you! Don't give James Comey any ideas.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:41 AM (DXfIG)

159
Title of a Horde anthology - Ransom of the Book Thread???
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:37 AM (5lYqE)

Get Ace's blessing and I'm in.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:42 AM (rLyG8)

160 Greetings:

Finally got a hold of two T.R. Fehrenbach's tomes that I've been looking for for years. "This Kind of War" in spite of the Colin Powell recommendation was a solid treatment of the Korean War in which he fought. His sociological observations and conclusions were enlightening.

I also got a hold of his "Fire and Blood". It's his history of Mexico and again his sociological observations were informative.

Both books hads lots of pages with tightly set type and things to think about on almost every pages.
As both are from the 1970s, the Long March through the Institutions rot had not set in so I'm sure both would annoy those so affected.

Posted by: 11B40 at April 22, 2018 10:42 AM (evgyj)

161 I like to use audio books to help with foreign language learning.

Listen to a story you know well, but in a language you're learning. I helped a fair bit with my French.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at April 22, 2018 10:43 AM (XmQWB)

162 Packed up 13 boxes of books yesterday. We're closing on the house in #twoweeks. It's five blocks away, so we're not hugely worried about packing things to survive shipping. We did leave out two books ("Redemption of Althalus" and "Lord of Chaos") just in case, but we're also a block from the library if things get dire. Hilariously, we found a book on homebuying that would have been nice to know about a week ago. D'oh!

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 22, 2018 10:43 AM (XKZwp)

163 >>> 110 Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:04 AM (0ReGO)

Captain Vorpatril's Alliance was the first I read, so no making connections to previous books for me. Also, since I usually listen to them I tend to miss any tiny details or potential Easter eggs.

For me, the book was very like a (much) more explicit Georgette Heyer romp that just happened to take place in a far-flung star empire.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:13 AM (rp9xB)

Now see, I did not catch that, but Bujold dedicated her earlier A Civil Campaign (in which The Coz courts his future bride) to "Jane, Charlotte, Georgette, and Dorothy" so yeah.

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:43 AM (0ReGO)

164 And then he went insane.

Posted by: Jim S. at April 22, 2018 10:40 AM (ynUnH)

One suspects that those chapter titles were a "leading" indicator that he was already a good way there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:45 AM (rp9xB)

165 Hi!

Posted by: MssyDe at April 22, 2018 10:45 AM (wyPVo)

166 The chapter titles... are "Why I Am So Wise", "Why I Am So Clever", "Why I Write Such Good Books", and "Why I Am a Destiny".

What a poser. Don't devote chapters to things which are self-evident.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 22, 2018 10:45 AM (y3sT9)

167 That kid has some Springer Spaniel in him.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 22, 2018 10:46 AM (7PllL)

168 I listen to books while driving. And, yes, it's a different experience than reading. At times I can drive a considerable distance without paying any attention.
But at times a certain might actually hit me more deeply than if I read it.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 22, 2018 10:47 AM (nBr1j)

169 The Deplorable Doctor

==

illustrated

the chapter on breast exams better be laminated

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 10:47 AM (hMwEB)

170 I always painted the serbs as the bad guys. Maybe not?
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:28 AM (rLyG

Almost certainly not. I was suspicious at the time because the MFM was spanking it 24/7 for Slick to bomb the fuck out of them and figured we were being fed disinformation.

There were plenty of bad actors on both sides but the Serbs were definitely the victims of western propaganda.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2018 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

171 150 Is the thread back?
*pants*
*spits*
I may throw up.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:38 AM (y87Qq)


Yeah, sorry about that. I had to do a thread update, and for some mysterious reason, pixy's software saved it back to Draft. So after a time lag, I noticed it was gone from the main page, so I re-published.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:48 AM (DXfIG)

172 Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:43 AM (0ReGO)

Will have to look into borrowing that one. Is "Dorothy" maybe Dorothy Sayers? She's the only author by that name I can think of, although she wrote mysteries instead of romance like the others.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:48 AM (rp9xB)

173 Listen to a story you know well, but in a language you're learning. I helped a fair bit with my French.

It's actually a technique. Listen while you're reading the English and/or French version. Yeah, it helps a lot.

Posted by: t-bird at April 22, 2018 10:49 AM (w1zJX)

174 All the stuff I think is cool people shrug their shoulders at. The stuff they think is cool is more often than not, produced thoughtlessly from the subconscious. ...
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:40 AM (rLyG


I've had the same experience in Sherlockian papers I have presented at conferences. The one that I thought was humorous (well a buddy and I thought it was funny -- people don't like pushing Mary Morstan off her pedestal) was NOT well-received while one I knocked-out in about 30 minutes wowed the audience with my "detailed" research (I determined the true identify of the "Royal Mallows" based on which British regiments served in both the Crimea and the Indian Mutiny).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 22, 2018 10:49 AM (5Yee7)

175 133 Let me tell you that as a Christian, I really enjoy having the Bible explained to me by lefty progs who know absolutely nothing about it. That always goes down well.

AND WE RILLY KNOW GUNS TOO!!!
Posted by: lefty progs at April 22, 2018 10:26 AM (sXZq9)

I'm becoming convinced that knowing nothing about anything is actually a job requirement for journalism.

Posted by: George LeS at April 22, 2018 10:50 AM (/ki+X)

176 Yeah, sorry about that. I had to do a thread update, and for some mysterious reason, pixy's software saved it back to Draft. So after a time lag, I noticed it was gone from the main page, so I re-published.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 10:48 AM (DXfIG)


No worries, mate. Just

*spits*

little thread shear. Wooo yep, that's the thread shear.

Just need some flat ginger ale and a cold washcloth, I'll be fine.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:50 AM (y87Qq)

177 Was reading as I always do all the comments on the book thread but had to interrupt myself.
Could James Comey be one of the few to write a book then find himself without a freind in the world?

Posted by: Skip at April 22, 2018 10:51 AM (aC6Sd)

178 If any of you are a little fuzzy on Christian dogma, this should straighten you out.

https://bit.ly/2Hivqw1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 22, 2018 10:51 AM (+y/Ru)

179 Off to the Love's to shower. My house is too small for me to be smelling like pits and ass. You can't escape it. Have a great day folks.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 10:52 AM (rLyG8)

180 For those interested in World War II and the Balkan theater in particular, the US Army has some 'light' reading for you...

German Antiguerrilla Operations in the Balkans (1941 - 1944)

https://history.army.mil/books/wwii/antiguer-ops/AG-BALKAN.HTM

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:52 AM (5lYqE)

181 My dearly departed cat Sugar would have loved to be on top of those book shelves.

Posted by: Skip at April 22, 2018 10:52 AM (aC6Sd)

182 I've read all of Ringo's Paladin of Shadows/Ghost books, and he actually does not trot out the BDSM thing that often. Yes, in the first book ("Ghost") he did, and I think there was a part of one of the later books where there was a bit of it. But most of the rest of the series was just the Kildar and his crew shooting up various bad guys. And in Ringo's other books (I've read nearly all of them) there is none of that.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at April 22, 2018 10:52 AM (1bzSL)

183 I finished Moira Greyland's Last Closet a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, the progressive nightmare of drugs, pedophiles, and rot that she experienced in Berkeley has now come to most of America.

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at April 22, 2018 10:53 AM (pyVd+)

184 Could James Comey be one of the few to write a book then find himself without a freind in the world?
Posted by: Skip at April 22, 2018 10:51 AM (aC6Sd)


Isn't it usually phrased as, "could James Comey write a book so awesome that he himself couldn't read it"?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 10:53 AM (y87Qq)

185 Is it known who Comey's ghostwriter was? If not, I'd guess it's the woman who wrote the Twilight series. (OK, I haven't actually read any of them. But I saw parts of the movies. And my wife assures me that the books are even worse.) If not, anyway, it's got to be some author(ess) of schlock romances.

Posted by: George LeS at April 22, 2018 10:54 AM (/ki+X)

186 The Romans had good technologies and were EXCELLENT engineers at leveraging (heh) what they knew. But what they didn't know was how to deal with epidemics.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM

That and invasions, if only they gave those poor innocents jobs and a better life.

Posted by: Skip at April 22, 2018 10:56 AM (aC6Sd)

187 I aspire to schlock romance(s).

Posted by: Burger Chef at April 22, 2018 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

188 I need to Kevlar up and start chainsawing some offending brush. BBL.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 22, 2018 10:56 AM (AIXgy)

189 The later Roman Empire - why you don't let undocumented barbarian armies wander inside your 'borders.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 10:57 AM (5lYqE)

190 A while back someone recommended "The White Nile" and "The Blue Nile" by Alan Moorehead. Just started them recently and I'm enjoying them. They cover that period of discovery, wonder and hardship of the 1800s that inspired stories by H. Rider Haggard, Jules Verne and others.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 10:57 AM (V+03K)

191 And here we thought the Swedish librarians had gotten to the book thread.

Posted by: JEM at April 22, 2018 11:01 AM (SY/Pc)

192 Another mass shooting. Picture of shooter plus the fact he is walking around nude suggest that he is coo coo bananas. Four dead, killed by an "assault type rifle" in waffle house in Nashville.

https://fxn.ws/2qP2ky4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 22, 2018 11:01 AM (+y/Ru)

193 DE NILE by Comey is another good historic fantasy.

Posted by: saf at April 22, 2018 11:02 AM (5IHGB)

194 "Even if it's these pants, and I'll bet you thought nothing could look more ridiculous than those stupid pussy hats, didn't you?"


You know, the thing that always surprises me, whenever somebody in the music industry tries to top whatever shocking thing was recently considered shocking... is just how trite and insipid the actual, you know, music is.

I don't blame them. This act, she's got a look, certainly, and if you were intending to make millions of dollars, you aren't going to waste your efforts on creating interesting music, because it's so completely unnecessary. People will buy this garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

195
The Chodyssey are the multiple trips you make to the toilet after having consumed carrot-infected chili ... am I right?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:02 AM (GTgMm)

196 Pretty sure Barbara Beaver was the first Never Trumper to croak. With a little joss, she will soon be joined by McLame, if he isn't lying about his illness.

Posted by: pretty sure at April 22, 2018 11:05 AM (Ymy4N)

197 test

Posted by: gingeroni at April 22, 2018 11:08 AM (GIqnq)

198 My other problem with Ringo is that he *Never!* finishes a series. He gets 3-4 books in and then wanders off to a new thought.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:15 AM (rp9xB)

The Black Tide Rising series is complete at 4 books and he has a trilogy in Corriea Monster Hunter series that will be finished this year.

Posted by: gingeroni at April 22, 2018 11:09 AM (GIqnq)

199
So.. I decided this week to start on his
Discworld series and bought the first in that series "The Colour of
Magic" at a used book store the other day.. first real book I've bought
in years!



I have yet to crack it open, however.. that kinda week...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 22, 2018 09:04 AM (5tSKk)


Colour of Magic is a good book if you liked the Fafhrd and Grey Mouser books, or the Conan books. The first books are all about standing tropes on their heads, the later ones start being about something else while standing tropes on their heads.

Pratchett was never a Johnathon Swift, but he did learn from him I am sure. He was a very well read author, and binds it together so well that I didn't realize how well read until I started browsing some of the classics.

Two of his early books are The Dark Side of the Sun, which I swear is the Anti-Dune book, and Strata, which I swear could be the anti-ringworld book.

Dark Side is about Dom Sablos, the heir to family that rules an ocean planet, where they harvest a longevity drug from ferocious bivalves, and who are the leading figures in using Probability math that predicts the future. All predictions say Dom is supposed to die on his 18th birthday when he takes his hereditary position as the Chairman of the board of the planetary corporation. They also say that if he doesn't die he will find the mysterious precursor race, the Jokers, who may have seeded all planetary biomes known, and set up giant indestructible monuments. Dom, having been rescued from an almost successful assassination, leaves home accompanied by his amphibious tutor and a sentient class 1 robot, and races ahead of assassins sent by the Joker Institute, his mother, and bad luck to find in the end who the Jokers were, and why it was all important in the first place.

Posted by: Kincltot at April 22, 2018 11:09 AM (2K6fY)

200 I will not misspell my name
I will not misspell my name
I will not misspell my name
I will not misspell my name
I will not misspell my name

Posted by: Kindltot at April 22, 2018 11:10 AM (2K6fY)

201 *mumblle*mumble*smart apostrophes***

Posted by: gingeroni at April 22, 2018 11:10 AM (GIqnq)

202 For anyone interested, here's my finalized analysis of J. Peterson's 12 Rules:

I stopped reading it, about halfway through.

There's nothing in it that strikes me as terribly original, and his writing is meandering and repetitive. Ultimately though, the reason I stopped is, he's a clinical psychologist, and appears to be trying his hand at amateur theology.

The insights he offers are not going to resonate with anyone who isn't already a Christian. And I'm just not seeing any real insight coming from his clinical training.

So in the end, it's an overwritten book, that would have been a useful series of (much shorter) blog posts. Which is apparently how it started.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:10 AM (Pz4pT)

203 One can only laugh.

A fraternity in Syracuse, NY has a tradition where new pledges put on a skit "roasting" (i.e. making fun of) existing members.

This year, one of the existing members was a "conservative." So the new members -- themselves all NOT conservatives, and thus moonbats -- therefore put on a skit making fun of conservatives, by having a character -- intended as a bufoonish, mocked character -- say "racist, sexist and homophobic" things. At the frat house event where the skit was performed, the other frat boys laughed at the skit.

One of them recorded it on his iPhone and put it on the frat's Facebook page.

Short version: Entire university goes into meltdown. End result: Frat PERMANENTLY expelled from the university. Forever.

No matter how much the frat members tried to explain that they were mocking conservatives by having an actor portray a racist conservative, the (as the video in the article reveals) communist SJW spittle-flecked glassy-eyed lynch mob of moonbats either have brain damage and cannot understand what humor even is, or merely PRETEND to not understand, so they protested constantly until the university caved into their demand and permanently expelled the frat. Everyone involved has to grovel and apologize, to no avail.

Since it's blue-on-blue action, "one can only laugh," but of course it's depressing because it reveals that the most ignorant, unaware, numbskulled humorless communist cretins have total veto power over society, and whatever moronic misinterpretation they blunder into is regarded as gospel truth.

Oh, and here's the link -- if you can watch the video, do so:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/education/article/ Syracuse-fraternity-permanently-expelled-over-12853919.php

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2018 11:11 AM (42M22)

204 183 I finished Moira Greyland's Last Closet a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, the progressive nightmare of drugs, pedophiles, and rot that she experienced in Berkeley has now come to most of America.

Posted by: Make Katy Perry Stop Murdering Nuns! at April 22, 2018 10:53 AM (pyVd+)

I feel like, based on her book, if she didn't have such a strong personality (headstrong kid) she would not have survived that childhood sane.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:12 AM (hMwEB)

205 Posted by: gingeroni at April 22, 2018 11:09 AM (GIqnq)

Good to hear. I'd given up and decided not to read any more since the couple series I'd read will most likely never be finished.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 11:13 AM (rp9xB)

206 Can I get a recommendation (or not) on the Jordan Peterson book for my 25 year old stepson? I usually send him books I've read, but haven't had a chance to read this one. He and his girlfriend are having a baby in a couple of months and I'd like to see him get his life on track.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 22, 2018 11:14 AM (Lqy/e)

207 Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2018 11:11 AM (42M22)

Thank you for the link.

At times like this, I can only respond with: sadtrombone.wav.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 11:14 AM (y87Qq)

208 https://www.sfgate.com/news/education/article/ Syracuse-fraternity-permanently-expelled-over-12853919.php
Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2018 11:11 AM (42M22)

Chance one of these numb nut nitwits sits back and learns what this means and changes their worldview? < 0

Posted by: weirdflunky at April 22, 2018 11:15 AM (KZj/a)

209 I guess 202 would be a no.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 22, 2018 11:16 AM (Lqy/e)

210 I stuck your sale announcement up in the content section. Hopefully, it will get better visibility.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine



OM, if I ever meet you I'm going to give you a big kiss. Thank you!

Posted by: Biblio at April 22, 2018 11:16 AM (iD3mK)

211
156


* addressing the tweeter *

Oh, you're a trans?

I do not give a shit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:16 AM (GTgMm)

212 Posted by: Kincltot at April 22, 2018 11:09 AM (2K6fY)

Sounds like he mixed in a fair amount of Asimov's Foundation series as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 11:17 AM (rp9xB)

213 Notsothoreau, is he a reader?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:17 AM (hMwEB)

214 I suppose the Syracuse story is relevant to the book thread on account of ... ?

Doesn't look like anyone involved in this story has ever touched a book they didn't have to color.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 11:17 AM (6FqZa)

215 Oh, and here's the link -- if you can watch the video, do so:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/education/article/ Syracuse-fraternity-permanently-expelled-over-12853919.php
Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2018 11:11 AM (42M22)


Not gonna watch. My belief is that the university, as a cultural institution, cannot be destroyed soon enough. Nay, if it is not destroyed, it will destroy us.

Seriously. Get rid of these places, stop having people gather, and stop making anyone who wants to succeed in this world go to these places to get let in the club.

There are ways to educate people. These places are not cutting it. Too much damage, for too little education.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:17 AM (Pz4pT)

216 I suppose the Syracuse story is relevant to the book thread on account of ... ?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 11:17 AM (6FqZa)


What's the open thread threshold? We're only in the low 200s after 2:30, I'm OK with it, not that anyone asked me.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 11:19 AM (y87Qq)

217 Posted by: Kincltot at April 22, 2018 11:09 AM (2K6fY)

It sounds really interesting, but the only version they have on Kindle is in German.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 11:19 AM (rp9xB)

218 There's nothing in it that strikes me as terribly original, and his writing is meandering and repetitive. Ultimately though, the reason I stopped is, he's a clinical psychologist, and appears to be trying his hand at amateur theology.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:10 AM (Pz4pT)


Yeah, Peterson is in desperate need of an editor. That's the most common complaint in the reviews I've read. And his theological insights aren't all that impressive, even to Christians. Here again we have the phenomenon of a non-Christian trying to explain the Bible to Christians, which I find extremely tiresome.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 11:20 AM (DXfIG)

219 >>> 172 Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 10:43 AM (0ReGO)

Will have to look into borrowing that one. Is "Dorothy" maybe Dorothy Sayers? She's the only author by that name I can think of, although she wrote mysteries instead of romance like the others.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 22, 2018 10:48 AM (rp9xB)

Sadly my public skool illiteracy does not know for sure... but mystery would fit into Miles' world without stretching, and he did meet Ekaterin during one of his Auditorial cases.

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at April 22, 2018 11:20 AM (0ReGO)

220 I guess 202 would be a no.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 22, 2018 11:16 AM (Lqy/e)


Not necessarily a no. Where is he, spiritually? Does he need a refresher on his Christianity? Would he listen to someone coming from that direction?

If so, he might be a good target for this work.

My other thing is, I am a slow reader, and I tend to absorb every word. This book was close to torture for me, but for someone who can zip through it, they might find it easier to tolerate the meandering.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:21 AM (Pz4pT)

221 Oh, you're a trans?


I do not give a shit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:16 AM (GTgMm)

Our first synthesis in Chemistry 1 was cis or trans ...something...depending on the quality of our technique.

So that's what I think about whenever I hear that word.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2018 11:23 AM (wYseH)

222 90: Social Scientists and psychiatrists are pretty unrelated. One is a non-science PC thing, the other is a branch of medicine for which an MD is required.
If a social "scientist" recommends and wants to administer ECT, RUN!

Posted by: CN at April 22, 2018 11:24 AM (5gaNQ)

223 Not necessarily a no. Where is he, spiritually?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:21 AM (Pz4pT)


Peterson? My guess is that if you asked him if he believes that Jesus died for his sins, he'd say "no".

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 11:24 AM (DXfIG)

224 CBD, I think the SJWs stole cis and trans nomenclature from chemistry.
To sound sciency.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:24 AM (hMwEB)

225 Medicinal and Other Uses of North American Plants, by Charlotte Erichsen-Brown. Published in 1979 and then republished unabridged in 1986. It's still available on Amazon.

The illustrations are black and white line drawings but I like it because it cites the sources for the information about uses, a lot of herbal medicine books don't always do that.

Posted by: Lirio100 at April 22, 2018 11:24 AM (JK7Jw)

226 Can I get a recommendation (or not) on the Jordan Peterson book for my 25 year old stepson?
I listened to the audio book with my husband and we both enjoyed it. Peterson gets a bit ranty in sections but it was a very enjoyable rant. He does meander a bit. I think it would be helpful but it also depends on how patient your stepson is.

A book that helped me a lot in high school was cs lewis The Screwtape Letters. If you treat it as "anti-advice", it's a wondeful guide to getting along with other flawed human beings. It's also short which can help with the impatient.

Posted by: gingeroni at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (GIqnq)

227 Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:10 AM (Pz4pT)

Yeah, Peterson is in desperate need of an editor. That's the most common complaint in the reviews I've read. And his theological insights aren't all that impressive, even to Christians. Here again we have the phenomenon of a non-Christian trying to explain the Bible to Christians, which I find extremely tiresome.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 11:20 AM (DXfIG)


Is he not a Christian??

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (Pz4pT)

228 If a social "scientist" recommends and wants to administer ECT speaks, RUN!

Posted by: CN at April 22, 2018 11:24 AM (5gaNQ)

FIFY


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (wYseH)

229
So that's what I think about whenever I hear that word.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2018 11:23 AM (wYseH)


Yeah, it sucks that they malappropriated a perfectly meaningful established scientific prefix for a deliberately deceptive mental condition

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (GTgMm)

230 Mitt can't even win the endorsement from the UT GOP. Mit has only won one election, MA gov by about one against a little known state treasurer. When he ran against Kennedy for the Senate, he got super whacked and of course Bammy spanked him pretty good. Pretty sure if Mitt had any junk in his sack, he would run against Lieawatha. But he don't and he wont.

Posted by: pretty sure at April 22, 2018 11:27 AM (Ymy4N)

231 I think the SJWs stole cis and trans nomenclature from chemistry.

To sound sciency.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:24 AM (hMwEB)

No doubt...but it still irritates the shit out of me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2018 11:27 AM (wYseH)

232 Strata IS a rif on Niven's Ringworld in my opinion.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 11:27 AM (5lYqE)

233 >>>In fact, he basically writes that consciousness can't be explained in his materialistic terms, so instead he tries to look at what materialism could provide instead.

It does seem that if materialism is true, we'd be like zombies, lacking consciousness, though our behaviors might be the same. I think the way some people push strongly for the notion that advanced AIs will be conscious one day is due to their desire to "rescue" materialism. I think it would be wiser to wait rather than make unwarranted assumptions.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 22, 2018 11:27 AM (/qEW2)

234 Iv'e already been wrong once today and since twice is my limit, I'll give this one a try.

Pretty sure Peterson considers himself a Christian. As always ymmv.

Posted by: weirdflunky at April 22, 2018 11:28 AM (KZj/a)

235 A book that helped me a lot in high school was cs lewis The Screwtape Letters. If you treat it as "anti-advice", it's a wondeful guide to getting along with other flawed human beings. It's also short which can help with the impatient.
Posted by: gingeroni at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (GIqnq)


Someone posted the John Cleese audio version a while ago:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA8BAC9375345E6C7

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 11:29 AM (y87Qq)

236 Oh, you're a trans?


I do not give a shit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:16 AM (GTgMm)


Not just a teeny tiny widdle turd ??

Posted by: pretty sure at April 22, 2018 11:29 AM (Ymy4N)

237 229
So that's what I think about whenever I hear that word.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2018 11:23 AM (wYseH)

Yeah, it sucks that they malappropriated a perfectly meaningful established scientific prefix for a deliberately deceptive mental condition
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (GTgMm)

They've hijacked it the same way they've hijacked the clinical terminology surrounding PTSD. That also pisses me off royally.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:30 AM (NWiLs)

238 I just sped read the DNC complaint against the Trump campaign. It puts all the initial accusations of collusion into a RICO complaint. All the things that Mueller can't prove.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 22, 2018 11:30 AM (pV/54)

239 There is also the term cis-lunar.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 11:30 AM (5lYqE)

240 cis and trans are just fancy pants Latin for hither and yon. I get to thinking of Cisalpine and Transalpine Gaul.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 11:30 AM (6FqZa)

241 Apologies if this has been reported before, but Patrick F. McManus died on April 11. He was a gifted humorist who wrote about the outdoors in a very accessible way. He's certainly on my list of top humor writers.

From his obit in the Idaho Statesman: "McManus published two dozen books, and sold roughly 6 million copies, in his lengthy career."

Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at April 22, 2018 11:31 AM (zuMT0)

242 Iv'e already been wrong once today and since twice is my limit, I'll give this one a try.

Pretty sure Peterson considers himself a Christian. As always ymmv.
Posted by: weirdflunky at April 22, 2018 11:28 AM (KZj/a)


Yeah, I thought maybe I missed something, somewhere, but that book is filled with Christian theology. There are lengthy parts devoted to Genesis, but he does tie pretty much all of it back to the Gospels.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:31 AM (Pz4pT)

243 227 BurtTC from wiki entry on Peterson



In a 2017 interview, Peterson identified as a Christian, but in 2018 he did not. He emphasized his conceptualization of Christianity is probably not what it is generally understood, stating that the ethical responsibility of a Christian is to imitate Christ, for him meaning "something like you need to take responsibility for the evil in the world as if you were responsible for it ... to understand that you determine the direction of the world, whether it's toward heaven or hell". When asked if he believes in God, Peterson responded: "I think the proper response to that is No, but I'm afraid He might exist"

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:32 AM (hMwEB)

244 I don't know if Peterson is an orthodox Christian but I think he is at least heavily influenced by Christianity

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:32 AM (NWiLs)

245 226: I truly enjoy and am inspired by CS Lewis. I was lucky enough to see an off-Broadway production of Screwtape which was very well done. Some of the group I went with took an irrational dislike to the production (why they event went is a mystery) due to a religious "conflict", but it was well worth seeing as the main character's interpretation was so measured in its demonic progression

Posted by: CN at April 22, 2018 11:33 AM (5gaNQ)

246 He is a reader. I sent him the Dilbert book for Christmas. There's a book on my wishlist that I've threatened to send him with a title like Get Married, Get a Job, Grow Up (written by some conservatives). My stepson is not particularly religious but has attended church at times. He has a lot of anger over his mom's death and I keep looking for books that can help him deal with it. He is a fan of Malcolm Gladwell.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 22, 2018 11:33 AM (Lqy/e)

247 Is he not a Christian??
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (Pz4pT)


My guess is, no.

Peterson obviously reads the Bible. He is obviously fascinated by it. But when it comes to personally accepting it in any form we would call Christian, I just don't see it.

But I could be wrong.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 11:33 AM (DXfIG)

248 I'm thinking Shelvie needs to jump in here and tighten that loose shit up.

Pha5e is open-ended and dedicate to the peeps, ya'll!

Posted by: Fritz at April 22, 2018 11:33 AM (J7XgW)

249 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (GTgMm)

They've hijacked it the same way they've hijacked the clinical terminology surrounding PTSD. That also pisses me off royally.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:30 AM (NWiLs)


PTSD is the new ADHD. Which is to say, there are people running around saying "me too," who, if you put them on a spectrum, would be on the low end of it, and they're usually the ones most loudly talking about having it.

The word "disorder," it does not mean you are someone troubled or inconvenienced. It means your life is a wreck. So shut up about your PTS and your ADH.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:34 AM (Pz4pT)

250 cis and trans are just fancy pants Latin for hither and yon. I get to thinking of Cisalpine and Transalpine Gaul.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 11:30 AM (6FqZa)


I often find it helpful to break it down into Grover-terms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhEcRrMA-M

Posted by: hogmartin at April 22, 2018 11:35 AM (y87Qq)

251 Dammit! Where's my editor? You're fired!

Next!

Posted by: Fritz at April 22, 2018 11:37 AM (J7XgW)

252 246 He is a reader.

==

in that case go for it

read the book yourself too, and maybe you guys can discuss it

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:37 AM (hMwEB)

253 PTSD is the new ADHD. Which is to say, there are people running around saying "me too," who, if you put them on a spectrum, would be on the low end of it, and they're usually the ones most loudly talking about having it.

The word "disorder," it does not mean you are someone troubled or inconvenienced. It means your life is a wreck. So shut up about your PTS and your ADH.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:34 AM (Pz4pT)


Anybody who claims they're "triggered" by seeing "Trump 2016" in chalk on the steps probably is disordered, just not in the way they claim.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:38 AM (NWiLs)

254 241... I hadn't heard about Pat McManus. Thanks for letting us know. His passing is a real loss for those of us who enjoyed his humor over the years.

Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 11:39 AM (V+03K)

255 Is he not a Christian??
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:25 AM (Pz4pT)

My guess is, no.

Peterson obviously reads the Bible. He is obviously fascinated by it. But when it comes to personally accepting it in any form we would call Christian, I just don't see it.

But I could be wrong.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 11:33 AM (DXfIG)


I can't quite put my finger on it, but yeah, there does seem to be something slightly.. off here. Almost as if he believes that YOU will benefit from this stuff, but he's doing just fine, thank you.

I don't want to read too much into this, but one of the other things about this book that was putting me off, he appears to be suggesting he's already got all this stuff down. This his "shit" is already together, so these are not rules he's needing to apply to himself. But you, dear reader, you are a mess. So, here.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:39 AM (Pz4pT)

256 Hey BurtTC - Intrepid Hater of Universities:

I teach at the alternative. A community college.

My science colleagues give them the first 2 years
of chemistry, physics, biology, and geology
completely devoid of any political posturing.

In a department faculty of 10, 8 of us a constitutional conservatives.

And they get a great education; no one is behind the curve
when they transfer to a 4 year.

2 years of full time credits for about $800 a semester.

I remember no one ever on campus using the word "woke".

Posted by: retropox at April 22, 2018 11:39 AM (SS/La)

257 Re: Comey and Niebuhr and the immorality of social organizations.

So Comey sees himself as Daniel in the den of lions. But every big decision he's made in his career has been to advance his own interest. Self-serving and sanctimonious.

I used to say that you could do a deal with a person on a handshake, but you needed a written contract with a corporation. You could never do a deal with the government unless you had "juice."

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 22, 2018 11:41 AM (pV/54)

258 Me stupid. What is an "oaf", or "oafette", escaped or straight up?

Posted by: Monty James at April 22, 2018 11:42 AM (gKOMX)

259 And how come I cannot keep my hash bdAve. :^(

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 11:42 AM (6FqZa)

260 PTSD can get you a service animal which are now like handicap stickers for your car.

It's terrible for people who truly need one because they are looked at with the same skepticism as people with handicap stickers are now.

The handicap sticker / placard scam in Houston was out of control . It's better now after they did an expose.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 22, 2018 11:42 AM (2DOZq)

261 I can't quite put my finger on it, but yeah, there does seem to be something slightly.. off here. Almost as if he believes that YOU will benefit from this stuff, but he's doing just fine, thank you.

Yeah, its very didactic and pedantic, he's the professor talking to people who need to learn from him and do as he says. A good teacher of ethics and truth will always include themselves in their teaching, admitting their own sins as well as calling us to admit and correct ours.

However, for now at least, he's useful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 22, 2018 11:43 AM (39g3+)

262 I think I'll send him the book and the link to the John Cleese audio book. If it doesn't interest him, maybe he can pass it along.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 22, 2018 11:43 AM (Lqy/e)

263 That pretty woman at UCLA who chided the BLM people,for revealing in their fake oppression and cheered the victors over those self-made victims should write a book

Posted by: LASue at April 22, 2018 11:43 AM (Z48ZB)

264 Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:34 AM (Pz4pT)


Anybody who claims they're "triggered" by seeing "Trump 2016" in chalk on the steps probably is disordered, just not in the way they claim.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:38 AM (NWiLs)


I should probably back up then. Maybe the problem isn't the word "disorder," but how it's being used, and what these people are willing to own up to.

Personality disorders remain poorly understood, and often under-reported, precisely because there isn't any medication psychiatrists can throw at it. So when someone goes in for mental health treatment, personality disorders are often, not just underreported, but often not even considered.

The old saying, "if all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail," that applies to psychiatry. Many of these docs have people come into their offices, and in the back of their minds, there is a wall of pills they can throw at the problem.

Well, there's no pill for personality disorders.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)

265 Don't forget the traveling exhibit in Germany around October every year, featuring containers and uncomfortable leather leg coverings, the cisStein Chap Hell.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 22, 2018 11:45 AM (ZDqkS)

266 I did watch the Peterson video linked the other day. He was pretty passionate about young men needing someone to say a kind word to them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 22, 2018 11:46 AM (Lqy/e)

267 111
OH JOHN RINGO, NO



https://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM (eXA4G)



This is required reading, as is the Piers Anthony addendum.

There's some big photobucket notice over the top part of that article. Or is it just me?

Posted by: Still John at April 22, 2018 11:46 AM (dLn0a)

268 There's some big photobucket notice over the top part of that article. Or is it just me?
Posted by: Still John at April 22, 2018 11:46 AM (dLn0a)
---
No, I saw it too. Didn't used to be there.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 11:47 AM (qJtVm)

269 ?Peterson obviously reads the Bible. He is obviously fascinated by it.
But when it comes to personally accepting it in any form we would call
Christian, I just don't see it.

=====

My own take is that he is a classical agnostic -- just can't make that leap to accept the gift of faith. Who coined the phrase 'gift of faith' anyway? Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Marcus Aurelius? However, the cultural guidance that our shared Judaeo-Christian heritage provides is pretty darn amazing.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 22, 2018 11:47 AM (MIKMs)

270 I finally read "Birth of the Chess Queen" by Marilyn Yalom, which OregonMuse mentioned awhile ago.

The precursor to our modern game of chess, chaturanga, was invented in India around 5-600 AD, then traveled to Persia. After Persia was conquered by Arab Muslims, chess (now called shatranj) spread throughout the Muslim world. After about 1000 AD, it gradually seeped into Europe by various routes, such as Muslim Spain, the Byzantine Empire, and Russia.

The game was originally designed to simulate war, with pieces representing chariots, cavalry, elephants, and foot soldiers. In the original game, the king could move one square in any direction, horizontally, vertically, and diagonally. The piece next to him was variously known as the general, the counselor, or the vizier. It moved only one square diagonally, making it the weakest piece on the board except for the pawns.

As chess spread into Christian Europe, the piece seated next to the king soon became referred to as the queen and was depicted as female in carved pieces. It still retained its original moves.

The book describes this, and also discusses chivalry and includes biographical sketches of queens in medieval Europe. The author is a feminist scholar, but she's not too heavy-handed. I noted a couple of digs at Christian culture, while she scrupulously avoided any criticism of Islam.

To make a long story short, eventually a very powerful Queen ascended to the throne in Spain in the late 1400s, and it appears that the chess queen's moves were changed as a tribute to her. Now the queen could move any number of squares in any direction, horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, making it the most powerful piece on the board.

Chess had been played for nearly 1000 years under the old rules and had spread throughout the world. This completely revolutionized the game and made it even more popular, giving us chess as we know it today.

Fittingly, today is the birthday of Queen Isabella I of Castile.

Posted by: rickl at April 22, 2018 11:48 AM (sdi6R)

271 Was reviewing Jason and the Golden Fleece and was wondering if any author has based a book on Medea and her murdering of her children when she discovered Jason didn't love her, but rather, loved power? Any Moron have any ideas?

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2018 11:48 AM (vV/gB)

272 Hey BurtTC - Intrepid Hater of Universities:

I teach at the alternative. A community college.

My science colleagues give them the first 2 years
of chemistry, physics, biology, and geology
completely devoid of any political posturing.

In a department faculty of 10, 8 of us a constitutional conservatives.

And they get a great education; no one is behind the curve
when they transfer to a 4 year.

2 years of full time credits for about $800 a semester.

I remember no one ever on campus using the word "woke".

Posted by: retropox at April 22, 2018 11:39 AM (SS/La)


Amen.

More of that. Less of the high flown university industrial complex.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:49 AM (Pz4pT)

273 263 her name is Candace Owens
the left is having a hissy fit ciz Kanye tweeted that he loves how she thinks (in reply to that ucla vid)

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 11:51 AM (hMwEB)

274 Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2018 11:48 AM (vV/gB)

Other than Euripedes?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2018 11:51 AM (wYseH)

275 Well, there's no pill for personality disorders.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)

Nope, not at all. It takes a ton of work, usually cognitive-behavioral, but the person has to have enough insight to realize something is wrong in the first place and want to change it. In some cases, the very nature of the personality disorder itself makes that difficult if not impossible, such as with narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

276 nood

Posted by: weirdflunky at April 22, 2018 11:52 AM (KZj/a)

277 I can't quite put my finger on it, but yeah, there does seem to be something slightly.. off here. Almost as if he believes that YOU will benefit from this stuff, but he's doing just fine, thank you.
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Yeah, its very didactic and pedantic, he's the professor talking to people who need to learn from him and do as he says. A good teacher of ethics and truth will always include themselves in their teaching, admitting their own sins as well as calling us to admit and correct ours.

However, for now at least, he's useful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 22, 2018 11:43 AM (39g3+)


Sure. He is that. Useful, as Milo was, going into the dens of hate, and trying to "debate" or whatever, the haters who label them as the hatemongers.

Ultimately though, is it going to do any good? I'm not saying it won't.

I was just hoping his book would be useful... to me. And it's just not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:53 AM (Pz4pT)

278 Well, there's no pill for personality disorders.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)

Nope, not at all. It takes a ton of work, usually cognitive-behavioral, but the person has to have enough insight to realize something is wrong in the first place and want to change it. In some cases, the very nature of the personality disorder itself makes that difficult if not impossible, such as with narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2018 11:52 AM (NWiLs)


Well said.

It makes for a hard life, and one not made any easier by mislabeling the problem as something else.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2018 11:55 AM (Pz4pT)

279 Midnight in the Garden of Good and Beavers

Posted by: LASue at April 22, 2018 11:55 AM (Z48ZB)

280 They Shoot Canoes, Don't They? Is a great McManus book.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 22, 2018 11:56 AM (89T5c)

281 I'm a lousy book reviewer. I forgot to mention that the book is illustrated with medieval chess pieces and illuminated manuscripts depicting chess playing.

Posted by: rickl at April 22, 2018 11:56 AM (sdi6R)

282 258 Me stupid. What is an "oaf", or "oafette", escaped or straight up?
Posted by: Monty James at April 22, 2018 11:42 AM (gKOMX)


"Escaped oafs" is an anagram of "Ace of Spades".

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 22, 2018 11:57 AM (DXfIG)

283 92---To sum up, if someone other than Hahn (who is biased) could tackle this topic, I'd love to read more on it.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 22, 2018 09:56 AM (bdAve)
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I suspect you may have alreaddy read it but, if you haven't, you should: The Shape of the Liturgy by Dom Gregory Dix.

It's not an easy read --- or rather, I should say it was hard for ME. For you? Not so much difficulty, as you are so familiar with the early period of the Church.

It's an academic history really but I found it profoundly inspirational.

Dix, incidentally, was an Anglican Catholic monk.
Amid the mid 20th century push for reform of the Anglican liturgy, he argued for bringing Holy Communion more into line with the Roman* (and Greek) Churches.

(* Of course he meant the Tridentine and earlier liturgies.
He died before the Novus Ordo, which is just as well since it probably would have killed him!)








Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 22, 2018 11:58 AM (0jtPF)

284 Thank you OM for another wonderful book thread. I don't know if it can be measured, but I would bet this is one of the most read recurring posts on Ace.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at April 22, 2018 11:58 AM (rLyG8)

285 Waving at Elisabeth G -- noticed that you are recording lectures. Where to get copies? I would be interested in your take on 'Just So Stories'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 22, 2018 12:04 PM (MIKMs)

286 268
There's some big photobucket notice over the top part of that article. Or is it just me?

Posted by: Still John at April 22, 2018 11:46 AM (dLn0a)

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No, I saw it too. Didn't used to be there.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 11:47 AM (qJtVm)
-----------------------------------------------------From what I read following that graphic, maybe I should be glad it was covered.

Posted by: Still John at April 22, 2018 12:07 PM (dLn0a)

287 "Here again we have the phenomenon of a non-Christian trying to explain the Bible to Christians, which I find extremely tiresome." Oregon Muse

I watched parts of "Extant" which has an alien that can force people to "hallucinate" being with their (dead) loved ones. This gets those people to serve the alien(s), because they so want to reunite with the dead.

Bits I saw seemed to extend that to convince us that belief in ever seeing the dead again is dangerous, illogical, "crazy". I forget the other details that made it seem like they were attacking Christianity as basically an "opiate for the masses".

There may be a point to be made, that sometimes Christians don't battle hard enough now, because they figure God will work it all out later. We should be in the "contest" now against evil on earth, but the belief in "after-life" is in addition to that, not a replacement for winning the culture in the here an now. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at April 22, 2018 12:09 PM (bT8Z4)

288 274 Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2018 11:48 AM (vV/gB)

Other than Euripedes?
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Yeah, that might work.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2018 12:09 PM (vV/gB)

289 271 Was reviewing Jason and the Golden Fleece and was wondering if any author has based a book on Medea and her murdering of her children when she discovered Jason didn't love her, but rather, loved power? Any Moron have any ideas?
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 22, 2018 11:48 AM (vV/gB)

Medea post-Jason features briefly in one of Mary Renault's Theseus books.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 12:13 PM (hMwEB)

290 Medea got a whole play about her written by Euripides.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 22, 2018 12:16 PM (V9nOM)

291 *pauses on catching up to wave at mustbequantum* Lectures, alas, are not for sale; you'd have to take/audit my online World Lit class through the Baptist College of Florida (http://www.baptistcollege.edu/online). I'll be teaching it again this fall, if you're interested. You can buy my textbook through Amazon, but it doesn't have any introductory essays or anything--I had about three weeks to put it together for this semester.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at April 22, 2018 12:19 PM (wbY28)

292 I bought the Uncommon Character book from last weeks thread and read the first couple. The author that compiled the character stories is preaching too much in the intros and summaries for it to be a compelling read.

Amazon recommended some other books when I bought it as they do and I bought one called Silent Tears. Its self-authored from a journal the gal kept when her husband's company sent him to China to manage building/starting a new factory and she volunteered at an orphanage in the city. I expected it to be something I'd only read a bit at a time but I was drawn in and read it for 3 hours last night.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at April 22, 2018 12:23 PM (4TOyg)

293 I'm reading a collection of the earliest Superman stories. My Gawd, this guy was a terrorist! He frequently threatened bad guys: Confess or I'll break your head. You've seen what I can do. In one story, he was working to reduce traffic fatalities in his city (I don't think Metropolis had its name yet). During this campaign, he smashed a bunch of junkets in a sales lot, destroyed a factory that turned out shoddy automobiles, and kidnapped the mayor and took him to the morgue to see crash victims.

When did "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" become part of the mythos? For that matter, when did he gain the ability to fly? In these stories, all he could do was leap up to 1/8 mile. As for all his other abilities, those came later; they're not in evidence in these tales.

I wonder whether the character would have had such staying power if he had stayed true to those roots.

Posted by: Weak Geek at April 22, 2018 12:25 PM (PWPy3)

294 279 Midnight in the Garden of Good and Beavers
Posted by: LASue at April 22, 2018 11:55 AM (Z48ZB)

I love that you are keeping the ONT alive.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 12:27 PM (qJtVm)

295 If I recall, Medea was later consoled by Dionysus.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 12:29 PM (qJtVm)

296 Lectures, alas, are not for sale; you'd have to take/audit my online
World Lit class through the Baptist College of Florida
(http://www.baptistcollege.edu/online). I'll be teaching it again this
fall, if you're interested. You can buy my textbook through Amazon, but
it doesn't have any introductory essays or anything--I had about three
weeks to put it together for this semester.
=====

Just can't budget for that (am still working on the 3 kidlets who have managed to graduate). However, your courses sound like a hoot and 'Just So Stories' have always been a totem for prose (imho). Maybe next year.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 22, 2018 12:29 PM (MIKMs)

297
Being Earth Day and shit, Kindle daily deals offers "Silent Spring" at a
discount. How many more millions have to die before this scrunt and her
BS book are fully discredited? I

regret she didn't die from malaria.



Posted by: JTB at April 22, 2018 09:02 AM (V+03K)

I thought Ert Day was yesterday, so I burned a tire. Damn, all that effort wasted.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 22, 2018 12:32 PM (efC8N)

298 She-Wolf: You're mixing up Medea with Ariadne. She's the chick who helped Theseus defeat the Minotaur and got dumped for her trouble, but Dionysus got her on the rebound.

IN some versions, Medea winds up in Athens married to Aegeus, Jason's sort-of father. That may be the source of your confusion.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 22, 2018 12:37 PM (V9nOM)

299 candice owens smacks down Talcum X

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/987787055043436544

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 12:40 PM (hMwEB)

300 I believe someone who's not a Christian might be open to Peterson's book and begin then by reading it to accept traditional establishment thoughts into their ethical conscience, out of need.

Some books are more for non-readers than they are for people on this book thread. shorter bursts (like blog posts) are easier to digest. pick up the book and put down. Their power is in what a paragraph can transmit.

So Notsothoreau, it could be a vehicle to help your (was it?) nephew, even if some of us here don't like it.

my 2 cents.

Posted by: booknlass at April 22, 2018 12:43 PM (xGMkv)

301 just call me Willow.

Posted by: booknlass at April 22, 2018 12:47 PM (xGMkv)

302 Jason and Theseus were both major dicks to their girlfriends.

Medea was a witch, so Jason was also stupid in humiliating her that way.

I think Ariadne turned Maenad after Theseus abandons her, but they were already kind of into human sacrifices in Crete.Still he was smart to cut and run, but stupid to maryy her little sister later. That's just asking for karma.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 12:48 PM (hMwEB)

303 OH JOHN RINGO, NO



https://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2018 10:11 AM (eXA4G)



This is required reading, as is the Piers Anthony addendum.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 10:13 AM (qJtVm)

Tried to read that, but there is a huge Photofuckit nag screen covering half the text. Pisses me off on two levels, one that Photofuckit is now charging for what they used to give away for free, and also that the owner of the site apparently can't be assed to delete the now-useless Photofuckit links.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 22, 2018 01:03 PM (efC8N)

304 I don't see the photobucket notice

also don't see anything about Piers Anthony

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 01:09 PM (hMwEB)

305 Votermom, here you go:

https://hradzka.livejournal.com/392471.html

I still get that Photobucket thing blocking it, but there is enough visible that you may be glad it is there to shield your delicate psyche.

I've read lot of Ringo and Anthony but many is the time as a young lass that I thought WTF Dude?!?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 01:41 PM (qJtVm)

306 Thanks for the shoutout in the thread! I love this place even if I don't post very often. And thanks also to the poster who read Standing The Final Watch. As to the editing...LOL I'll let you take that up with my publisher, who is a lurker here. In all fairness to her I hear a lot about how great of a job she did with the book, but getting rid of all my flaws must be impossible.

And John Ringo is the reason I wrote it. (Blame him, not me!) Ghost showed me that you can write whatever the hell you want to write, so stop being afraid and just do it. In the world of reviews every libtard who gives it a one star because of the MC's conservative outlook hurts, so it's great to have a safe space for myself. (What would the snowflakes say about conservatives having a safe space?)

There's also some talk about the politics inside the SF community. I can tell you first hand that's 100% true, I was on a panel this year that instead of discussing the topic at hand became a Trump bashfest from the other 4 panelists. There were at least 30 people in the room, and I already knew that a lot of them were Patriots, not lefties. One of them later got booed by an audience member after it was over.

Posted by: William Alan Webb at April 22, 2018 01:49 PM (OhYcy)

307 I've read lot of Ringo and Anthony but many is the time as a young lass that I thought WTF Dude?!? Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018
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I used to wonder at some of the off-the-wall weird sex stuff, seemingly out of nowhere, and my own theory is that middle-ages is dangerous (buy a penis-extender car, take a barely-past adolescence lover, etc). Thank goodness I am beyond that.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 22, 2018 01:56 PM (MIKMs)

308 Thank goodness I am beyond that.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 22, 2018 01:56 PM (MIKMs)
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My pool boy stole my 'vette!

*sadz*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 02:03 PM (qJtVm)

309 @ 241 --

Sad to read about Patrick McManus. I never was an outdoors kid, but his stories in Field & Stream were hilarious. I remember reading one in the high school library and busting a gut, shaking with silent laughter. (I don't make noise when I'm really laughing; I just shake.) Near the end of the story, I raised my eyes from the page -- and saw two girls staring at me and smiling.

Farewell to Patrick, Retch, Crazy Eddie, Rancid, and the rest of the bunch.

P.S. Fistbump to another copy editor!

Posted by: Weak Geek at April 22, 2018 02:11 PM (zT4Y1)

310 The Paolo and Paola knows.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 22, 2018 02:11 PM (MIKMs)

311 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 01:41 PM (qJtVm)

I see an ad on top (changes) but nothing blocks the text

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 22, 2018 02:29 PM (hMwEB)

312 4 books this week removed from the TBR pile and placed firmly on the TBR again for re-reading a couple of years down the road. First up was my favorite: The Knowledge by Martha Grimes. Big fan of her mysteries about Inspector Jury, and this one lived up to my expectations. All of her books' titles are the names of pubs in Great Britain. Love 'em all!
Next was Dead Wake, The Last Crossing of the Lusitania, by Erik Larson. Lives up to my opinion of him as a great storyteller, and to his other books, Isaac's Storm, Devil in the White City, etc.
Next 2 were the last 2 volumes in the 44 Scotland Street series, by Alexander McCall Smith. Sweet stories, and I really enjoyed the last one, since it got rid of a monster liberal mother (she moved to Aberdeen without the family).

I do love retirement! Time to read!

Posted by: Bookaday at April 22, 2018 03:41 PM (2qDS0)

313 From Invader Zim, Vol.I:

Professor Membrane: Build a machine capable of allowing you to enter alternate realities so you can kidnap your brother and trap him in a nightmare of virtual horrors? That sounds awful! Why would I help you do this?

Gaz: I dunno, Dad. Science or somethin'.

Professor Membrane: WHAAAAAT?! I'LL DO IT!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 22, 2018 03:51 PM (qJtVm)

314 Speaking of Medea...

Greater Tuna was a play that was immensely popular in the 1980s in Texas and elsewhere. It was based on a bunch of wacky characters in the fictional small town of Tuna, Texas.

Anyway, one of the characters says that the local theater group is doing a version of Medea in which she kills her children rather than let them be raised by a Yankee stepmother. Always got a huge laugh.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at April 22, 2018 04:08 PM (S+f+m)

315 I get the notice about upgrading Photobucket on that page.

So what year 'vette does Paolo drive? A '69?

Yeah Ringo let the freak flag fly proudly with a hero that at first you go 'eeeww!' why write about him? But his hangups, kinks, and his basic honor hook the reader.

That Zim scene reminds of when our most obnoxious and incompetent Invader created a virtual reality in which Dib is a hero that outshines his dad just find out if Dib was the one who threw a muffin at Zim.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 22, 2018 04:14 PM (K2aKX)

316 To understand the Balkans, read Ivo Andric's 'Bosnian Chronicle." They have too much history and unfinished business.

Posted by: Raven One at April 22, 2018 06:51 PM (qSnW8)

317 Andric's 'The Bridge on the Drina' is also interesting

Posted by: Raven One at April 22, 2018 06:56 PM (qSnW8)

318 Congrats, Mr. Webb.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at April 22, 2018 08:10 PM (yRllJ)

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