Woman Accusing Missouri Governor of Taking a Racy Picture of Her In Order to Blackmail Her Now Says She Isn't Sure He Took A Picture of Her and May Have Dreamed The Episode

Hashtag #BelieveAllWomen.

Attorneys defending Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens against a felony invasion-of-privacy charge say his mistress-accuser isn't sure what happened

The woman, a hairdresser, claimed Greitens took a photo of her partially in the nude so he could blackmail her into silence about their affair

She was bound and blindfolded at the time

Now she testifies that she can't recall seeing him with a camera-phone, and doesn't know if her belief that he had the phone was the result of a dream

Police arrested the governor on the basis of a recorded conversation she had with her husband, where she said she saw a camera flash through the blindfold

She claims Greitens told her he had erased the picture, but the governor's defense team believes it never existed

Now they're demanding prosecutors turn over any other evidence that might clear Greitens

By the way, check out this Federalist piece on the prosecutor pressing this case -- she's a real Social Justice Warrior #Woke peach.


Gardner has developed a negative reputation among police officers in St. Louis. She's looked the other way on cases into which they’ve poured time and energy; and she's gone after police officers with more aggressiveness than she’s gone after killers and thieves.

That might explain why the new police chief in St. Louis, John Hayden, was so quick to point out to the press that the police had no involvement in the Greitens case. Not only did they not investigate, but the chief took issue with Gardner’s suggestion that the police had been asked to and didn’t: "It makes me frustrated because it’s as if she’s saying I failed to do something I’m supposed to do here, and that’s not the case at all. To date, nobody has tried to report this to the police department."

Her office put out a statement on this claim that the "victim" now says she may have dreamed being photographed:

A spokeswoman for the St. Louis Circuit Attorney’s office says the latest court filing by attorneys for Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens is another attack on the “credibility of the victim.”

Greitens faces trial in May on a felony invasion of privacy charge for allegedly taking a partially nude photo of a woman with whom he was having an affair in 2015 while she was blindfolded and bound.

In a court filing Sunday, Greitens' attorneys say the woman testified she never saw Greitens with a camera or phone on the day he is accused of taking the photo. The court filing says the woman also testified during her Friday deposition that she doesn’t know if her belief that he had a phone was the result of a dream.

Circuit attorney spokeswoman Susan Ryan says in a statement that the defense "cherry picked bits and pieces" of the woman’s nine-hour deposition.

Um, if she did in fact say during the deposition that she can't be sure Greitens did the very thing he's being prosecuted for, and in fact may have only "dreamed" it,, that's not just a "cherry" that you pick from the bowl. That is the bowl.


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Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:00 PM (jsWA8)

2 I'll get the others

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:00 PM (jsWA8)

3 Hello?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:01 PM (jsWA8)

4 This thing on?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:01 PM (jsWA8)

5 Kinda roomy

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:02 PM (jsWA8)

6 Dang

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:02 PM (jsWA8)

7 The Cohen raid sucked all the air out of this thread before it could even inflate.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:02 PM (CMbMd)

8 This story is OBE with Mueller's attack on Lawyer Client Privilege.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:02 PM (2LelM)

9 Ace the fbi just raided Trumps attys office

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:03 PM (eaoOY)

10 Stuck in another dimension

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 09, 2018 04:03 PM (jsWA8)

11 Was it kinda blurry, like Cybil Shepherd on Moonlighting?


Did you look good naked?

Yeah. Chances are you were dreaming.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:03 PM (Btd+Q)

12 so is this how shit is going to go.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (eaoOY)

13 yeah, so um, case dismissed?

but really, the damage is done, so who cares...

Posted by: Todler at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (8D42x)

14 Hooo doggy, you're gonna have to pull this one for later ace because the Mueller raid is going to take over the comments.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (RD7QR)

15 So we need the OIG Report now. Then we need to the subpoenas. Then the scourging before the Crucifixion. I doubt Obama's Clown Posse will survive the ordeal.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (2LelM)

16 Is Michael Cohen the atty dealing with the Stormy deal? or all Trump stuff?

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (eaoOY)

17 Well it could have been true, why was he in her dreams anyway?

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 04:05 PM (aC6Sd)

18 Lul

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 04:05 PM (LiyEm)

19 Now, who would issue a warrant for such a raid, what would they be looking for, and what would cause a judge to grant such a warrant?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:05 PM (RD7QR)

20 OMG! The police department never investigated this? All done by prosecutors?? Ho Lee Fuk!

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (Xp+z8)

21 350
Heard on way home on radio news Zuck is admitting Facebook didn't do
much to stop the Russians from swaying the election President Trump's
way. They got all you dumb bastards on Facebook to vote for Trump
instead of the Queen.

Hahaaha, suckers.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 03:41 PM (aC6Sd)

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Facebook was anti-Trump and pro-Hillary this is such B.S.



Posted by: redridinghood at April 09, 2018 04:00 PM (PvFoN)

This reminds me of the scene in ALIENS whatever, where the two aliens kill the other alien and use his acid blood to escape the jail cell.
The left would burn Zuck and Fartbook to to the ground get Trump.


Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (ymnmz)

22 The prosecution has been over the top but it is what you expect out of Democrat ran shit hole like St. Louis. The only reason any of this happened was to use in attack ads against Claire McCaskill's opponent, our current AG Josh Hawley.

Posted by: Drew in MO at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (cGlgB)

23 I believe the technical term is REASONABLE DOUBT.

Great googly moogly, what is going on in this country?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (B+qrE)

24 20
OMG! The police department never investigated this? All done by prosecutors?? Ho Lee Fuk!

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (Xp+z

Yeah right?!! Sum Ti Wong

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (jxbfJ)

25 I'm confused - she was blindfolded and partially nude with her husband and yet the governor was there as well to take her photo? huh?

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (a0IVu)

26 19 Now, who would issue a warrant for such a raid, what would they be looking for, and what would cause a judge to grant such a warrant?
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The judge was born in Hawaii or Manhattan. Take your pick.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (2LelM)

27 i really do feel like we are steadily rolling into a crisis.

but it's a feeling with only forboding on what I've seen and heard of the doj /fbi osha, epa and how they have been used the last decade. Openly

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (eaoOY)

28 This whole thing has been a sham from step one.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (oVJmc)

29 Mueller raid ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (Mbmmf)

30 Re : Cohen Raid.

If PDT was everything the Left says he is, Mueller would have been found face down in Fort Marcy Park right about now.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (CMbMd)

31 I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night.

Posted by: Joan Baezzz at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (IqV8l)

32 The Dream Police, they are inside of my head.
The Dream Police, they come to me in my bed.

Posted by: Burger Chef at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (RuIsu)

33 That's it. Make it public. Every warrant, every subpoena, every deposition, every everything. Let's see how much is truth and how much is weasel.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (q3fwv)

34 This thread has been instantly hijacked.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (UBzPO)

35 Dream induced rape sounds sciency.

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (r9UYA)

36 GOP Governor?

Yeah, even if he didn't do it, I'm sure he would have, so it's all good! Burn the conservative!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (W+vEI)

37 In this brave new world, isn't dreaming of harassment the same as physically being harassed?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (7ZVPa)

38 Here's the precedent:


https://tinyurl.com/hg6tna6

Posted by: Berry Buginski at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (k10w7)

39 How is this even possible?

Trump needs to take action immediately. Full pardons for everyone that Mueller ever talked about, fire Mueller and every Assistant AG that was working with him, arrest the top 8 DOJ and FBI Deep Staters and start a rally tour of 15 cities to let the people show support.

Posted by: Jwest at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (/roJx)

40 If that prosecutor was in SC she could be charged with a felony and go to jail.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (mpXpK)

41 The Cohen raid sucked all the air out of this thread before it could even inflate.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:02 PM (CMbMd)
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No kidding... this is insane.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (PvFoN)

42 29 Mueller raid ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (Mbmmf)

Raided the offices of one of Trump's lawyers.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (RD7QR)

43 The turd in the punchbowl.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (pvjTE)

44 There must be some cool German word of "sharing a dream", especially an erotic one. "einen Traum teilen" is what Google gives me, but that doesn't sound dirty enough, by half, to satisfy my lust for some guttural grunting word. I have tried for the last 30 years to share a dream ... with a certain blond, so I can understand how that nice lady may have padded her realities.

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (PEcU2)

45 The judge was born in Hawaii or Manhattan. Take your pick.
Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:06 PM (2LelM)

The same ones who have been covering for Weinstein for 20 years? Yeah, that adds up.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (UBzPO)

46 Now, who would issue a warrant for such a raid, what would they be looking for, and what would cause a judge to grant such a warrant?

Mueller is known for raiding first, getting approval later.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (oVJmc)

47 Help someone out here who's not a lawyer.

Is it EVER okay for a government agency to "raid" an attorney's office to get dirt on someone?

Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (lKmt3)

48 Here is a pro tip men, I know the sex is great but, take it from me, don't stick your dick in crazy.

Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (gbWkA)

49 Hmm...a prosecution based on the dreams of a mentally unstable young woman?

Sounds legit to me! Bring on the dunkings!

Posted by: Cotton Mather at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (Z8FFX)

50 16 Is Michael Cohen the atty dealing with the Stormy deal? or all Trump stuff?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (eaoOY)
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Stormy. But in the article, they say FBI will review communications between cohen and Trump "to see what's privileged".

Just wow. Gestapo, it's what's for lunch.

Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (G0vdT)

51 Coming next week: Rosenstein writes a memo in which he asserts that Mueller "always had" the authority to raid PDT's attorney's office.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (q3fwv)

52 The sleep is still in my eyes
the dreams are still in my head

Posted by: Geddy Lee at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (Btd+Q)

53 Excellent defence is a VP Pence defense. Only thing better is a 24x7x365.25 recording by a GoPro sending to multiple anonymous servers.

Democracy Dies In A Weaponized Judiciary.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (e1mEI)

54 Here's that constitutional crisis The Left has been wanting since election day.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (UBzPO)

55 Lucid dreaming is hard work. Hard work. ooh baby!

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (PEcU2)

56 If you wanted to make the governor a sympathetic figure I can't think of a better way to do it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 09, 2018 04:10 PM (0QYMt)

57 We are become East Germany.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:10 PM (CMbMd)

58 Prosecution: Why should we share our evidence with you, since you're only going to try to find something wrong with it?

Phil Jones, Climate Research Unit, U. Of East Anglia: Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2018 04:10 PM (d8tb7)

59 It used to be that law and order jobs pretty much attracted the right wing. You didn't get mangy hippies doing prosecutor work because it was "working with the pigs" or "working for the man" and a betrayal.

But they figured out that if they got into these positions, they could work the system and "balance injustices" and all the rest of that crap.

Its not that the guys on the right were any better, thy were just bad in ways that the leftists tended to balance out in defense positions. Now there's no balance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:10 PM (39g3+)

60 50 16 Is Michael Cohen the atty dealing with the Stormy deal? or all Trump stuff?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:04 PM (eaoOY)
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Stormy. But in the article, they say FBI will review communications between cohen and Trump "to see what's privileged".

Just wow. Gestapo, it's what's for lunch.
Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (G0vdT)

That's really just a straightforward provocation. Mueller is daring the Donald to fire him.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (RD7QR)

61 There must be some cool German word of "sharing a dream", especially an erotic one.

AnschlussMargret?

Posted by: Berry Buginski at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (k10w7)

62 Jeff Sessions has singlehandedly ended what was left of the rule of law in the USofA.

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (r9UYA)

63 pix or it didnt happen

Posted by: Memey McMemeface at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (hXeKX)

64 Is this prosecutor related to Martha Coakely?

Posted by: Fells Acres Day Care at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (W+vEI)

65 In Dreams, hm?

Posted by: Dennis Hopper huffing oxygen at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (IfoVx)

66 There isn't a deep state comrades. The FBI just does whatever it wants and any political motives are just coincidence

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (OLCnA)

67 OT... According to Drudge, FBI has raided the offices of Trump's personal Lawyer looking for documents related to the Stormy Daniels issue, based on a recommendation from Mueller...

Exactly WTF does Stormy Daniels have to do with Russia-collusion?

Posted by: I smell something rotten at April 09, 2018 04:12 PM (iWzUm)

68 The F.B.I. also seized emails, tax documents and business records one source familiar with the raid told the paper.

federal prosecuters in manhattan

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:12 PM (eaoOY)

69 The only way to get the left to stop this shit is to turn a group of even more rabid conservative AGs loose on every and all democrats.

Ham sandwich indictments. Everyone on the left is guilty until proven innocent. Make sure every family member is investigated too. Drain the swap by draining their bank accounts hiring attorneys.

Posted by: Jwest at April 09, 2018 04:12 PM (/roJx)

70
That's really just a straightforward provocation. Mueller is daring the Donald to fire him.
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Seizing the communications of a lawyer to get around attorney-client privilege seems pretty illegal...no?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (Z8FFX)

71 The Dream Police come to me in my bed
The Dream Police come to me in my head
The Dream Police are coming to arrest me
The Dream Police, Police, Police

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (aC6Sd)

72 48
Here is a pro tip men, I know the sex is great but, take it from me, don't stick your dick in crazy.


Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (gbWkA)

or libtard but thats redundant.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (o7tuA)

73 I dreamed I was 'way out in front in my Maidenform bra.

Posted by: Cameltoe Harris at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (398bZ)

74 Greitens should have kept it in his pants and saved it for his wife.

May this prosecutor serve time in Club Fed. This is a grotesque abuse of prosecutorial authority.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (VpIIl)

75
That's really just a straightforward provocation. Mueller is daring the Donald to fire him.
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What Mueller fails to understand is Trump won't fire him, he will destroy him. Pretty much the inverse Insurance Policy. With Mueller will go most of the senior leadership of the FBI. A new broom sweeps clean. Brennan best find a new country that doesn't have an extradition agreement with the US.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (2LelM)

76 so.

so!

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (eaoOY)

77 She was a hairdresser! That explains everything to the Left's satisfaction! A house-painter can send millions of Jews to the ovens, but a hairdresser cannot dream of a night of lust and polaroid's without being shelled in the open!

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (PEcU2)

78 Last night I dreamed of chickens
there were chickens everywhere
they were standing on my stomach
they were nesting in my hair
they were pecking at my pillow
they were hopping on my head
they were ruffling up their feathers
as they raced about my bed

Posted by: Jack Prelutsky at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (Btd+Q)

79 And if PDT refuses to put an end to this,

there's nothing stopping the FBI from doing this to each and every one of you whenever they want.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (CMbMd)

80 Didn't the Prosecution say a couple of weeks ago that they didn't actually have the photo, they'd only heard about it?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (d8tb7)

81 Merkel / Urkel 2020!

Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (sGtp+)

82 I saw the link to Soros money for her election. I hadn't realized until now why Soros would care to fund all those obscure DA races around the country.

A private, ideologically-driven prosecutorial army to bludgeon all the Right People into silence or prison.

And if it comes down to violence in the streets, guess which side the Soros DAs will coddle and which will be prosecuted?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (FLifI)

83
Exactly WTF does Stormy Daniels have to do with Russia-collusion?
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The RUSSIAN ARE COMING...OH GOD THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!

Posted by: The Climax scene of Stormy DOES Moscow at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (Z8FFX)

84 Assuming the rumor of the FBI raid is accurate I can only think of two reasons why they'd do it:

1) They have something or strongly suspect something big and are following through in good faith. They found crime or malfeasance and want to prosecute it.
2) Meuller knows he has nothing, can't get anything done except exposing more and more wrongdoing on his own side, and is trying to push Trump into firing him.

I don't really see any third option here. Raiding someone's lawyer on a fishing expedition is unbelievably stupid and incompetent and even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

85 67: They want trump out, they don't care how. Wray and Rosenstein are dirty AF

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (5gaNQ)

86 Mueller looks like he is related to John Kerry and Lerch from the Addams Family.

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (LiyEm)

87 What Mueller fails to understand is Trump won't fire
him, he will destroy him. Pretty much the inverse Insurance Policy.
With Mueller will go most of the senior leadership of the FBI. A new
broom sweeps clean. Brennan best find a new country that doesn't have an
extradition agreement with the US.
Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:13 PM (2LelM)

Too late for that.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (UBzPO)

88 57 We are become East Germany.

i meant to do that. it's funnier when you don't quote what you're responding to.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (sGtp+)

89 >>WTF does Stormy Daniels have to do with Russia-collusion?


They'll have to watch her films and see.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (Btd+Q)

90 Can't the fucking Republicans figure out someone we can raid!? I mean for Gods sake!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (o7tuA)

91 69 The only way to get the left to stop this shit is to turn a group of even more rabid conservative AGs loose on every and all democrats.

Ham sandwich indictments. Everyone on the left is guilty until proven innocent. Make sure every family member is investigated too. Drain the swap by draining their bank accounts hiring attorneys.

Posted by: Jwest at April 09, 2018 04:12 PM (/roJx)


Have their children removed from their guardianship. Have their homes foreclosed.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:15 PM (CMbMd)

92 Mueller is going for the gold ring. He want's Trump to react is some manner so either he can bring obstruction of Justice charges or set's up Congress for impeachment.


Thanks Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 04:15 PM (G0vdT)

93
Stormy. But in the article, they say FBI will review communications between cohen and Trump "to see what's privileged".


We'll allow it!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at April 09, 2018 04:15 PM (oVJmc)

94 Drain the swap by draining their bank accounts hiring attorneys.
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Scorched Earth. Make them all pay. They thought they were smhartz but they will find out they will be going fishing on a lake.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:15 PM (2LelM)

95 Exactly WTF does Stormy Daniels have to do with Russia-collusion?

Remember, Rosenpenis issued a memo extending Meuller's powers beyond his original warrant, a memo that's secret from us. Pretty much anything can be okayed for him to do at this point. This is turning into Wisconsin cubed with all their John Doe warranting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:15 PM (39g3+)

96 I like the picture of Joy Reid. Looks like she's having a massive brain fart.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (HgMAr)

97 If PDT is going to make a 'destroy Mueller' move, just about now might be a good time. This has gone on far too long.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (a0IVu)

98 90 Can't the fucking Republicans figure out someone we can raid!? I mean for Gods sake!!!
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Mueller's lawyer? Or better yet, Mueller's law firm.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (2LelM)

99 The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Muellers investigation but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (eaoOY)

100 Just wow. Gestapo, it's what's for lunch. Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 04:09 PM (G0vdT)
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Lunch, breakfast, and dinner.

Look at the WI prosecutor raids on anyone who could have possibly supported Scott Walker. Now being recreacted on a national scale.

Legal Insurrection and Powerline have decent writeups on that totalitarian nastiness.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (MIKMs)

101 The information seized will be leaked.

Count on it.

Posted by: Furious George at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (9vQJW)

102 STORMY MONDAY BLUES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lokLq6fY4

Posted by: T.Bone Walker at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (Btd+Q)

103 99
The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Muellers
investigation but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and
gave to prosecutors in New York

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (eaoOY)
So its about that payment to the porn star..possibly using campaign funds. is that it?

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (a0IVu)

104 Well, she doesn't have the credentials that Stormy Daniels has.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (+y/Ru)

105 97 If PDT is going to make a 'destroy Mueller' move, just about now might be a good time. This has gone on far too long.
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The Honey Badger works methodically. This will happen in slow mo throughout the spring and summer. Once over, Mueller will not be hirable anywhere in DC or NY.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (2LelM)

106 Hold our beer, Moon!

Posted by: Eff Bee I at April 09, 2018 04:18 PM (CDETr)

107 Photo? heh.

What harm are few bondage games between extra-martial lovers?

Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2018 04:18 PM (bJ0w+)

108 Pretty much anything can be okayed for him to do at this point.
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Yep. It doesn't matter what the charge is - Meuller's goal is to hand ANY crime to the new Dem congress in Jan 2019.

Campaign finance violation in paying off Stormy? Sure why not? Questionable tax deduction in 1996? Go for it! Jaywalked in 1985? NAIL HIM TO A TREE!

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2018 04:18 PM (Z8FFX)

109 Close enough.

Posted by: muckrack at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (RZ4iC)

110 Once again, thanks Jeff Sessions for creating this Constitutional crisis because you wanted to protect your good name and spare yourself a bad news cycle all over a question from Al Franken.

Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (lKmt3)

111 CohenS hush payment to Daniels was reportedly not the only issue the feds sought to investigate, per the Times

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (eaoOY)

112 All I can say is this is starting to look more and more like a blatant coup. The Justice Department vs Trump, and since they're the guys who enforce the law who's gonna stop them?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (39g3+)

113 The Honey Badger works methodically. This will
happen in slow mo throughout the spring and summer. Once over, Mueller
will not be hirable anywhere in DC or NY.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (2LelM)

Patience is a virtue. I wish it was one of mine.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (o7tuA)

114 The FBI raid was based on a referral from Mueller.

The coup isn't so soft anymore, is it?

Posted by: girldog at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (g5YYQ)

115 Maybe we could raid Damascus, since we seem to be intent upon sticking our dic*ks into the vice and cranking the handle down real tight! Nah! Let's just draw a line in the sand and forget about it. It's only dreaming anyway.

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (PEcU2)

116 Ve haff vays to make your lawyer talk.

- Gestapo Mueller

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (+y/Ru)

117 Once over, Mueller will not be hirable anywhere in DC or NY.
Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (2LelM)

Is that a joke? Mueller's estimated net worth is over $10 million.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (UBzPO)

118 62 Jeff Sessions has singlehandedly ended what was left of the rule of law in the USofA.

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (r9UYA)

Well, to be fair, at least he busted some weed dealers.

Posted by: this is racist at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (5sCV9)

119 CohenS hush payment to Daniels was reportedly not the only issue the feds sought to investigate,

Where's the legal issue in paying a whore to keep her mouth shut?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (oVJmc)

120 Yes, Mueller is asking to get fired.

Instead Trump is going to get Mueller indicted.

If Rosenstein had sense (and balls) he'd stop Mueller now.

Watch MSM defend Mueller. You know they used to pretend to care about civil liberties

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (n+6mJ)

121 Serious question: what is the threshold for raiding a lawyer's office.

Wouldn't most stuff in there be protected by lawyer client privilege? Sort of tautologically?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (fuK7c)

122 Only thing Mueller is after is something on President Trump or to hold out untill the election and hope Congress changes so Democrats can vote for impeachment

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2018 04:20 PM (aC6Sd)

123 111
CohenS hush payment to Daniels was reportedly not the only issue the feds sought to investigate, per the Times
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM (eaoOY)

Most likely a real estate deal from 20 years ago.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (UBzPO)

124 Pics or it didn't happen!



Crap somebody beat me to it.


Is she hot?

Posted by: eleven at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (+lOpA)

125 I am thoroughly confused by the article.

Greitens acknowledged in January that he had an extramarital affair in 2015 as he was preparing to run for governor. That came as St. Louis television station KMOV aired a report in which the woman describes a March 21, 2015, encounter with Greitens during a conversation that her husband secretly recorded.

In that recorded conversation, the woman says Greitens invited her into the basement of his St. Louis home, where he tied her hands to some exercise rings, blindfolded her and partially undid her clothing. She said she saw a flash through the blindfold and Greitens said to her, 'You're never going to mention my name, otherwise there will be pictures of me everywhere.' The woman said Greitens told her later in the day that he had erased the photo.


What the hell is going on here? The accuser's husband made a secret recording of the accuser recounting details of the encounter in which the photo and 'threat' occurred?

Is she not a willing witness?

Or are they saying there's a secret recording of the encounter itself? In which case I don't understand why they don't have the 'threat' on tape.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (iv0p7)

126 195: I call BS on anyone who says Trump wants this shit and is "in control" of it. Same for the Sessions da boys, you're just jejune and fanciful

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (5gaNQ)

127 But, hey, some of those guys in the FBI got transferred to new departments!

Posted by: blaster at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (Z5y53)

128 Not a smidgeon of corruption in my administration, bitches!

Now, watch this drive!

Posted by: Emperor Choom Boy at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (ptqGC)

129 Where's the legal issue in paying a whore to keep her mouth shut?
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Hey if they can't breathe they can't talk...amiright?

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (Z8FFX)

130 Is that a joke? Mueller's estimated net worth is over $10 million.
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That is chump change in DC waters. Trump is worth how much and he's the fucking President. How far do you think $10M can last against that pile of power and money?

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (2LelM)

131 This is all Jeff Sessions fault. If the man had any actual honor he would resign.

So I must conclude that he was the insurance policy Strozk spoke of.

Jess Sessions is a piece of shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (GV0Mg)

132 Was there ever a doubt that the NY AG would get involved?

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (LiyEm)

133 CohenS hush payment to Daniels was reportedly not the only issue the feds sought to investigate, per the Times

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:19 PM

Of course not. They're looking for anything they can find. Anything at all.

And also punishing Cohen for representing Trump.

Posted by: girldog at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (g5YYQ)

134 120: They're buddies. Ain't happening

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (5gaNQ)

135 Oh ffs. These types of women make me insane. I'd call her a lot of bad names, but I stay away from that kind of language.

Also, I think I'm in a bad mood today. Because otherwise I wouldn't be thinking in such vulgar terms.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (EVeeU)

136 We have a mass shooting in Las Vegas that happened, what, a year ago?

The FBI hasn't said a word.

Made up collusion investigation?

FBI is all over it.

I wanted to believe the FBI was populated with decent hard-working people with the corruption being pretty much confined to the DC offices.

I no longer am willing to give any FBI agents the benefit of a doubt, after they went along with this ridiculous raid.

This is political theater designed to enable the removal of a sitting President for no reason other than he's not one of the political class.


Posted by: Blake at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (qC1Sy)

137 126

Are you from the future? flying cars?

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (CDETr)

138 Bloomberg TV is absolutely creaming it's panties over the Cohen story

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (OLCnA)

139 103 99
The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Muellers
investigation but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and
gave to prosecutors in New York

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (eaoOY)
So its about that payment to the porn star..possibly using campaign funds. is that it?
Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (a0IVu)

Ahhhh. Still trying to get some mileage out of Stormy.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (RD7QR)

140 Logical or not, I wish Sessions would step up and do..something.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (a0IVu)

141
Mueller's lawyer? Or better yet, Mueller's law firm.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:16 PM (2LelM)


Start going after Mueller's family

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (lKyWE)

142 130: Taxpayers will fund Mueller, sorry

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (5gaNQ)

143 He's going to trial next month on a felony charge based on something the "victim" says she may have only dreamed?

How has this case not already been thrown out on summary judgment? If the "victim" herself isn't sure that a crime was actually committed, then how could any juror find the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Posted by: Madonna at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (fqUgw)

144 "Um, if she did in fact say during the deposition that she can't be sure Greitens did the very thing he's being prosecuted for, and in fact may have only "dreamed" it,, that's not just a "cherry" that you pick from the bowl. That is the bowl."

Po - tay - to; po - prosecutorial - misconduct

Posted by: Sterling Archer at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (rznWS)

145 126 195: I call BS on anyone who says Trump wants this shit and is "in control" of it. Same for the Sessions da boys, you're just jejune and fanciful
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I read it as Mueller and Dems desperation. They've got an election coming up and they need a reason to run on. Then there is the Obama Child to protect.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (2LelM)

146

What the hell is going on here? The accuser's husband made a secret recording of the accuser recounting details of the encounter in which the photo and 'threat' occurred?

Is she not a willing witness?


I'm not even sure she's a complainant in the case.

All I can tell is that the case was brought by a crooked prosecutor, but the woman might not even be the one making the complaint.

Pure Kafka.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (oVJmc)

147 The Honey Badger works methodically. This will
happen in slow mo throughout the spring and summer. Once over, Mueller will not be hirable anywhere in DC or NY.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:17 PM (2LelM)


Then Trump runs the real risk of losing to the Democrat/Republican Establishment play via the FBI/DOJ to remove his ass first.

This game is going to be won by whoever delivers the killing blow first. Waiting too long is a really bad idea.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (QUtQ6)

148 On the other hand, what if the FBI has something solid here? What if Trump is up to bad stuff and they are raiding a lawyer because they know he's guilty? What do we do then? Will we be like Clinton and Kennedy fans who tongue bathe him despite his crimes, because we consider the alternative even worse?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)

149 If they want Stormy to talk, they're going to have to bring more Russians! Send in Vlad!

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (PEcU2)

150 We have a mass shooting in Las Vegas that happened, what, a year ago?

The FBI hasn't said a word
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Right after they found out he was a pussy hatter the FBI and the FNM stopped being interested in the case. Odd isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (Z8FFX)

151 This is political theater designed to enable the
removal of a sitting President for no reason other than he's not one of
the political class.
Posted by: Blake at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (qC1Sy)

It's also designed to make sure nobody from outside the Beltway Club ever even considers running for high office again.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (UBzPO)

152 I like the picture of Joy Reid. Looks like she's having a massive brain fart.

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Her middle name is Brainfart.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (+y/Ru)

153 142 130: Taxpayers will fund Mueller, sorry
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Not as a private citizen they won't.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (2LelM)

154 And also punishing Cohen for representing Trump.

Remember, Hillary wanted to deny Nixon any representation at all.

They truly want show trials.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (oVJmc)

155 Was there ever a doubt that the NY AG would get involved? Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 04:21 PM (LiyEm)
=====

How else is an 'honorable man' supposed to work his way up the ladder to the DC Nirvana?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (MIKMs)

156 inhale-ohmmm..exhale..ohm.

so i find all this legit after all the years of Hillary ,Sid, fast and furious, Benghazi, pay to play.

yessss this is so righteous.

now i have a reborn faith .

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (eaoOY)

157 >>Where's the legal issue in paying a whore to keep her mouth shut?


Pay your whores...
Hah!


For a second there, I thought you were serious.

Posted by: Secret Service at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (NoJDX)

158 Also, I think I'm in a bad mood today. Because otherwise I wouldn't be thinking in such vulgar terms.





Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 04:22 PM (EVeeU)

Pushes chocolate through usb. A gorilla in a bad mood...its in our best interest to make you smile....Two gorillas walk into a bar....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (o7tuA)

159 No one in MSM bothers to ask Stormy or her lawyer who's paying them

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (n+6mJ)

160
Breaking Fake News: FBI raids office of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen on behest of Robert Mullah

Posted by: Soothie at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (aNG2F)

161 The seized records include communications between Mr. Trump and Mr. Cohen, which would likely require a special team of agents to review because conversations between lawyers and clients are protected from scrutiny in most instances.
.............

Super Special Agents!

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM (HgMAr)

162 Police arrested the governor on the basis of a recorded conversation she had with her husband, where she said she saw a camera flash through the blindfold

Errr ... All else aside ... It's hard to be a good eyewitness through a blindfold.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (8gDQu)

163 Mueller is only doing what Roddy and Wray allow. Wray undoubtedly knew about tjis before it happened

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (5gaNQ)

164 He's going to trial next month on a felony charge based on something the "victim" says she may have only dreamed?
***
In fairness Massachusetts executed a few "witches" on exactly such evidence.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (Z8FFX)

165 This is all ... disturbing.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (Mbmmf)

166 Im going on record that a Saturday night massacre is a brewing maybe by this Saturday.

Whats happening is intolerable and must be stopped.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (GV0Mg)

167

Fake News is reporting this with the phrase "investigation heating up."

Posted by: Soothie at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (aNG2F)

168 The party should be a club, an exclusive club that dines in the best restaurants with our friends across the aisle.

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Didja see this comment from retiring GOP Rep. Charlie Dent?

"It's exhausting," centrist Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), who announced his retirement last fall, told The Hill. "What we've gotten out of the administration is all this disruption, and it's very destabilizing."

Trump's a boat rocking, swamp drainer and they don't like it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (+y/Ru)

169 Also, if you consent to be blindfolded and tied up and partially undressed, your consent to a photograph of that is withing the penumbra of consent.

It is known.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (fuK7c)

170 148
On the other hand, what if the FBI has something solid here? What if
Trump is up to bad stuff and they are raiding a lawyer because they know
he's guilty? What do we do then? Will we be like Clinton and Kennedy
fans who tongue bathe him despite his crimes, because we consider the
alternative even worse?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)

It is not possible to do the real-estate deals in NYC that Trump has been involved with his entire life without breaking a bunch of laws. Everyone knew this going in.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (UBzPO)

171 I bet elves hanged from lampposts blow around a bit when it's breezy.

Make good watching.

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (r9UYA)

172 Snort a rubber for them, in open court. That will lend credibility to your testimony! They'll understand that they must have dreamed it!

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (PEcU2)

173 148: Are you serious?

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (5gaNQ)

174 I remember when we still held out hope that a veritable legion of honest, hardworking FBI agents would resign in protest over the sham investigation of DistHillary.

Posted by: Furious George at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (9vQJW)

175

HOW THE FUCK IS MICHAEL COHEN AND STORMY PROSTITUTE A PART OF THE RUSSIAN MEDDLING INVESTIGATION??

Posted by: Soothie at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (aNG2F)

176 We're headed to an chaos and a constitutional crisis and damn near civil war.

thanks sessions

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (5y11N)

177 How the fuck does a pissant special prosecutor and district attorney raid the president of the United States lawyers office and seize privileged and confidential documents?

Honestly, these people need to be put up against a wall and shot.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (VpIIl)

178 Christopher, after 8 years of Obama and the left running wild and unfettered?

after 'Obama's database" re Waters? Hillary another 8 years with all those toys!?

and i think Trump might be dirtier?

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (eaoOY)

179 175




HOW THE FUCK IS MICHAEL COHEN AND STORMY PROSTITUTE A PART OF THE RUSSIAN MEDDLING INVESTIGATION??

Posted by: Soothie at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (aNG2F)

sure jump on a technicality.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (o7tuA)

180
The FBI is gonna waterboard Choen 'til he talks. And by waterboarding, it means they'll get Russian whores to pee all over him. While they watch.

Posted by: publius, the Cranny-Curious Poperin Pear at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (8O3HH)

181 170 A team of lawyers investigating you could come up with several felonies I am sure.Or me.Or anyone.

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2018 04:27 PM (LiyEm)

182 Last night I had a dream, that all the lawyers that were involved with anyone in government being bribed, had their offices raided by the FBI, intent on rooting out corruption in DC.

But then I find only Trump's lawyer got raided, and the FBI is at war with our President, and is covering up for the Crime Syndicate that run DC and the country.

Covering up FOR is maybe the wrong phrasing, (parts of) the FBI are the enforcers for the globalist mob/cartel. #2weeks

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (bT8Z4)

183 >>HOW THE FUCK IS MICHAEL COHEN AND STORMY PROSTITUTE A PART OF THE RUSSIAN MEDDLING INVESTIGATION??


I hope tiny giraffes are involved.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (NoJDX)

184 So this whole blindfold-sex thing is a thing outside the porn world..amazing.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (a0IVu)

185 On the other hand, what if the FBI has something solid here?
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If you give a political opponent of the president unlimited resources and carte blanche to go after him for literally anything isn't it only a matter of time until he can make up...err...find something.

How many laws a day does the average break again? Is it...3?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (Z8FFX)

186 That's really just a straightforward provocation. Mueller is daring the Donald to fire him.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (RD7QR)


Isn't it time for Sessions to tell "the vewy honowable Wod Wosenstein" that this is outside the muh Russia interference in the election, ergo outside the range of recusal, and that the Attorney General will assume control of this snipe hunt?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (y7DUB)

187 Super Duper Extra Special Agents!

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (HgMAr)

188 This game is going to be won by whoever delivers the killing blow first. Waiting too long is a really bad idea.
--------------------
Agreed. But let's vidie forward. Trump calms the NORKs and is heralded as a great president. Trump bends Xi on trade and is viewed as a powerful president. Trump rewrites NAFTA and is viewed as a savior for middle America. What exactly do you think Mueller can do to sidetrack those coming attractions? Finally, DOJ begins the assault on the Obama Clan - DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA... This is a desperation move by Mueller and the Dems.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (2LelM)

189 It is not possible to do the real-estate deals in NYC that Trump has been involved with his entire life without breaking a bunch of laws.

Yeah I don't think that's gonna be it, not something from decades ago. I think they're convinced that campaign money was somehow used as payoffs. Which is technically defensible at least on some level (protecting the candidate) but a violation of the law, I'd guess.

I bet elves hanged from lampposts blow around a bit when it's breezy.

The bones clatter around like wind chimes!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (39g3+)

190 Where's the new thread with a flaming skull-fuck for the Cohen raid?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (d8tb7)

191
Constitutional crisis. Two words. Country divided. Two words.

Make sure your voter registration info is up to date. They're looking to nullify the last election with any means at their disposal.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (LOgQ4)

192 I wonder when a warrant will be issued and the doj raided for the docs it's withholding from Congress.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (87EdW)

193 You mean felonies from yesterday only? Or is there some statute of limitations upon non-total-recall of dreams?

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (PEcU2)

194 157 >>Where's the legal issue in paying a whore to keep her mouth shut?


Pay your whores...
Hah!


For a second there, I thought you were serious.
Posted by: Secret Service at April 09, 2018 04:24 PM

If paying go-away money is a crime then all of the insurers in the world would be out of business.

Posted by: Lester at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (LfJIn)

195 Fake News is reporting this with the phrase "investigation heating up."
Posted by: Soothie at April 09, 2018 04:25 PM (aNG2F)

-----------------------

None of these people realize, or care, this is the kind of crap that precipitates a constitutional crisis and from there, most likely, a shooting war.

Posted by: Blake at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (qC1Sy)

196 also i don't tongue bathe politcians i just attempt to look out after my childrens survival.. and hoped to wake up our supposed Advocates (conservative politicians to help fight the left)

that's it.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:29 PM (eaoOY)

197 Sessions is a bigger whore than Stormy

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (5gaNQ)

198 Does Comey have a bible verse about this?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (o7tuA)

199 Isn't it time for Sessions to tell "the vewy
honowable Wod Wosenstein" that this is outside the muh Russia
interference in the election, ergo outside the range of recusal, and
that the Attorney General will assume control of this snipe hunt?
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (y7DUB)

A bit late for that now.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (UBzPO)

200 I haven't seen anyone call for the Skull in a long time! Feels good! Burn it!

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (PEcU2)

201 170
148

On the other hand, what if the FBI has something solid here? What if

Trump is up to bad stuff and they are raiding a lawyer because they know

he's guilty? What do we do then? Will we be like Clinton and Kennedy

fans who tongue bathe him despite his crimes, because we consider the

alternative even worse?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)

It
is not possible to do the real-estate deals in NYC that Trump has been
involved with his entire life without breaking a bunch of laws. Everyone
knew this going in.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (UBzPO)


Please elaborate.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (ymnmz)

202 OMG! The police department never investigated this? All done by prosecutors?? Ho Lee Fuk!

Kim Gardener hired a (very) sketchy team of private investigators to "investigate" the non event. The chicks husband is the one who made this public. She still isn't claiming victim status. So, no crime, no victim and no evidence. Yeah sure, let's prosecute.
Oh and, no surprise here: Greiten's is largely being hung out to dry by establishment Rs.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (ty7RM)

203 Now Says She Isn't Sure He Took A Picture of Her and May Have Dreamed The Episode

No big deal. You could still get 73% of jurors to convict.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (8gDQu)

204 And back to the OP, skirts who talk about their dreams need to permanently STFU.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (y7DUB)

205 Eight years of the most corrupt administration in my memory, and this crap is going down?

Unreal.

Posted by: Emperor Choom Boy at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (ptqGC)

206 on this daniels thing.. was it possible it happened in NV as it is legal there.

if it happened.

I had thought she stated it didn't for a while?
so wth

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (eaoOY)

207 Kim Gardner will ride this issue all the way to the White House!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (4ZE6o)

208 Off, ironic sock.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (ptqGC)

209 I do fear what happens if the Deep State manages to through some trickery or legal shenanigans get the president removed. I feared what president Hillary would do to the nation (destroy it, in fire, was my real belief).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (39g3+)

210 They must have been working on getting this slow-walking warrant since like what, two or three years ago?

Posted by: Fritz at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (bJ0w+)

211 199: Sessions should go all Japanese honorable, do a Cho-Cho san. Worthless twat

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (5gaNQ)

212 So a porn whore may bring down PDT?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (ptqGC)

213 I wonder if the phrase 'Somebody wake Sessions! ' has been uttered in the white house

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (CDETr)

214 Somebody shit or get off the pot.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (CMbMd)

215 Please elaborate.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (ymnmz)

Union and/or mob pay-offs for one.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (UBzPO)

216
Kim Gardener hired a (very) sketchy team of private investigators to "investigate" the non event. The chicks husband is the one who made this public. She still isn't claiming victim status. So, no crime, no victim and no evidence. Yeah sure, let's prosecute.
Oh and, no surprise here: Greiten's is largely being hung out to dry by establishment Rs.


This is about getting rid of another reformer.

Greitens is just the MO version of what they're doing to Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (oVJmc)

217 well if we're going to go full bore at poltical payoffs re Trump

certainly lets go all the way pack to paying off dems to be able to build/ or do any business anywhere

just saying.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (eaoOY)

218 Yay!

Arizona Supreme Court rules, unanimously, that illegal alien DACA students in AZ are not entitled to taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition rates.

As an AZ taxpayer and believer in the rule of law, I commend the justices for this obviously correct decision.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (fqUgw)

219 Very OT:

Advice and thoughts, please, oh wise members of the horde.

So, I've been in a long distance relationship with a guy who is... somewhat unreliable, and lately, things have gotten worse. We got into an argument over his inability to follow through a few days ago, and then, BAM! I got really sick. Really, really sick. I almost went to the hospital. Virus that causes very bad joint pain.

In any case, we resolved the earlier issue and he seemed to be very concerned about me, since I live alone and don't have anyone to do things like pick up medications and such. In fact, he offered more than once yesterday to come over to see me and help me out for the next few days. I really didn't answer right away, but eventually said yes because he really wanted to assure himself I was OK. The plan, as I understood it, was that he'd go to work, take part in an early conference call and then head out.

Well, that never happened, and instead, he wanted to show up after work, which meant he'd get here after 10pm, which would defeat the purpose of helping me out with trips to the store, since I needed the medication before that. So I said don't come. Because...''too little too late.' I pointed out to him that when I ask him for small favors-- which I rarely do-- he blows them off, and now, when he wanted to make a grand romantic gesture, he didn't follow through either. He feels bad, and is very good with saying the right thing and apologizing, but he has proven to me that I'm not a priority and that he's not completely reliable.

Is this a situation that can be resolved? I suspect that only way that it will be workable will be if I make no demands on him and simply accept that I am at the bottom of this list of top 50 priorities and will always be in that place. In other words, an 70/30 situation where he benefits 70% of the time, and my 30% means "going out to eat to nice places that he would go to any ways."

Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)

220 Agreed. But let's vidie forward. Trump calms the NORKs and is heralded
as a great president. Trump bends Xi on trade and is viewed as a
powerful president. Trump rewrites NAFTA and is viewed as a savior for
middle America. What exactly do you think Mueller can do to sidetrack
those coming attractions? Finally, DOJ begins the assault on the Obama
Clan - DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA... This is a desperation move by Mueller and
the Dems.
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Worked against Nixon. Why not try it again?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (MIKMs)

221 No big deal. You could still get 73% of jurors to convict.

51% at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

222 212
So a porn whore may bring down PDT?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (ptqGC)

Somewhere Bill Clinton is laughing his ass off.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (UBzPO)

223 You want a night of the long knives? Because this is how you get a night of the long knives.

Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (gbWkA)

224 Where's Jackstraw? I'd like to hear his take on the raid. It sounds very off to me.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (Z48ZB)

225 192 I wonder when a warrant will be issued and the doj raided for the docs it's withholding from Congress.
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Good point. Then there is the entire senior leadership of the FBI to raid and seize documents. That's why we have a Marine Corps. The G-men have evidently sucked too much Obama cock to be trusted any longer.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (2LelM)

226 Are we back to Trump gets impeached, steps down, Pence becomes President, makes Trump VP, Pence steps down. Trump becomes President. ???

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (o7tuA)

227 212: AG Rosenstein ain't pretty enough to be a pornstar

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (5gaNQ)

228 Now Says She Isn't Sure He Took A Picture of Her and May Have Dreamed The Episode

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Whaa! You never heard of the dream police?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:34 PM (+y/Ru)

229 Is it EVER okay for a government agency to "raid" an attorney's office to get dirt on someone?
Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 04:08 PM (lKmt3)

Not if youre Stasi.

Posted by: Golfman - still with no apostrophes at April 09, 2018 04:34 PM (48QDY)

230 She fell upon his engorged issue. Honey, that was no issue! And, you just dreamed it!

Posted by: goon at April 09, 2018 04:34 PM (PEcU2)

231 in fact how much was paid to unions, dem politicians , like Hillary etc.

let's go all the way! if we're going here

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:34 PM (eaoOY)

232 What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 04:34 PM (ptqGC)

233 >>>36 GOP Governor?

Yeah, even if he didn't do it, I'm sure he would have, so it's all good! Burn the conservative!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2018 04:07 PM (W+vEI)

heh

Posted by: m at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (U6XUk)

234 They literally had Clinton with a hacked secret server in her bathroom and a secret meeting with Bill and Loretta Lynch and said, nope, nothing .

Stormy Daniels said he touched me in the nono place and the DOJ/FBI actually break the attorney client privilege by raiding Trump's attorney's law office and take all the docs, which will now be leaked from here til November


It would be mighty nice if every lefty lawyer in the world wold stand up and say....too much, Mueller, time to go.



Cause this is full on shitshow.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (ymnmz)

235 Worked against Nixon. Why not try it again?
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Simple, Trump did not commit or cover up a crime. The FBI did.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (2LelM)

236 >>Arizona Supreme Court rules, unanimously, that illegal alien DACA students in AZ are not entitled to taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition rates.


*Swats Down AZ Ruling*

Not Today!

*Does Motumbo Finger Shake*

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (NoJDX)

237 Oh goody. NeverTrumper Gasbagarino is weighing in on Cavuto's show.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (ptqGC)

238 Greitens is just the MO version of what they're doing to Trump.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (oVJmc)

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And in both cases, the prosecution is contrived, clumsy, incompetent, illegal, and stupid. And in both cases, none of that has mattered so far.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (d8tb7)

239 What exactly do you think Mueller can do to sidetrack those coming attractions?

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:28 PM (2LelM)


Honestly ? Ignore them. Do what they want to do anyway.

There is no Law. Only Power and the Will to use it. This raid ... like everything else ... is designed to meke Trump vulnerable - to encourage a sufficient majority of the power holders to move to remove him.

And also ... to muddy the waters. This raid just made these Investigation Indictments I keep hearing about less credible. Because Trump is dirty, see ? He got raided, don't you know ?

If Trump sits back and does nothing ... he'll lose.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (VQcx0)

240 The FBI who completely dropped the ball on the Florida shooter but it's all over something as critical to national security as the Stormy Daniels BS

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (5cnjb)

241 Arizona Supreme Court rules, unanimously, that illegal alien DACA students in AZ are not entitled to taxpayer-subsidized in-state tuition rates.

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RACISTS!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (+y/Ru)

242 169 Also, if you consent to be blindfolded and tied up and partially undressed, your consent to a photograph of that is withing the penumbra of consent.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 09, 2018 04:26 PM (fuK7c)


I saw Penumbra of Consent open for Dream Theater at the Tower.

Posted by: rickl at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (xjiRE)

243 *Does Motumbo Finger Shake*

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at April 09, 2018 04:35 PM (NoJDX)

Damn it! cawfee...screen.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (o7tuA)

244 was it possible it happened in NV as it is legal there.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (eaoOY)

I don't think she has a whoring license

Posted by: this is racist at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (5sCV9)

245 I give up. If anybody needed a reason to keep a GOP majority, you're looking at it. This is battlespace prep for November. Hold the House and expand the lead in the Senate and all of this goes away.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (RD7QR)

246 Its too early to have any kind of reaction to the raid at all.

Typically its very bad news when the feds raid a lawyer, but at the same time: FBI has a pretty poor track record, and its clear Meuller is just desperate to find something to hurt Trump with.

So it could be anything, and we can only wait and see. But we're fast approaching a crisis in the system where the executive department is fighting against the executive and everything is set up to prevent him from responding or dealing with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (39g3+)

247 I have to believe that all the details were already leaked to the DC press weeks ago - that's the only way 24/7 Stormy coverage makes any sense.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (UBzPO)

248 The Left played Sessions, Like Hyman Roth played Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (5y11N)

249 Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)

After reading that I think you sort of answered your own question. People can change if they want to change, but if he's not showing any sign of wanting to change and is stuck in a circle of letting you down, it may be time to move on.

Do you really want to continue in a relationship with someone that's only 30% in the game with you? That doesn't sound like a good deal, to me.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (wwd4n)

250 I don't really see any third option here. Raiding someone's lawyer on a fishing expedition is unbelievably stupid and incompetent and even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

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I'm pretty certain that's how Obama and his pals got the ball rolling in the first place. Why stop now?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (ks6bw)

251 223 You want a night of the long knives? Because this is how you get a night of the long knives.
Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM

Marytdom is better than a big stinky nothing-burger which is what Mule-head has. So yes Mule-head is trying to get fired.

Posted by: Lester at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (LfJIn)

252 Is this a situation that can be resolved?
Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)
__________________

According to psychologists, the most reliable predictor of future behavior is . . . . .

. . . . . past behavior.

So you figure it out.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (fqUgw)

253 Is this a situation that can be resolved?


Tricky question. Were you sick enough that you couldn't / didn't want to have sex? If he came to see you without the expectation of sex that counts in his favor.

On the other hand, he may be banking that selfless gesture towards future sex. Guys can do that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (fuK7c)

254 Also, if you consent to be blindfolded and tied up and partially undressed, your consent to a photograph of that is withing the penumbra of consent.

She told me to tie her up and do whatever I wanted! So I took her stereo.

No seriously, I think that's a completely reasonable argument. There's no actual penumbra needed: its a complete surrender and request to do anything at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (39g3+)

255 Yikes. The Brooke Shields 'Brenda Starr' is on.

Rotten movie, but Brooke was sure a hottie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:37 PM (oVJmc)

256 215
Please elaborate.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:30 PM (ymnmz)

Union and/or mob pay-offs for one.



Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:32 PM (UBzPO)


Are you saying that Trump was extorted by Unions and the Mob, and that is a crime on his part?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (ymnmz)

257 lol, does one get a whoring license ? Do porn stars get licenses?

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (eaoOY)

258 246: I don't think so. This is sanctioned by Toddy and Wray. Sorry, they're part of the problem.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (5gaNQ)

259 That's really just a straightforward provocation. Mueller is daring the Donald to fire him.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (RD7QR)

Nah, don't fire him. Sue his ass. Personally.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (7UW64)

260 How the fuck does a pissant special prosecutor and district attorney raid the president of the United States lawyers office and seize privileged and confidential documents?

Honestly, these people need to be put up against a wall and shot.
Posted by: Marcus T


Fire Sessions. Make me AG & your wish is my command.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (YxTUV)

261 Eight years of the most corrupt administration in my memory, and this crap is going down?

Unreal.
Posted by: Emperor Choom Boy at April 09, 2018 04:31 PM (ptqGC)


Yea, I'm thinking those 8 years of corruption is why this crap is going down. And now would be the time I'd go on my rant about the failure of our fourth estate to be the gatekeepers of democracy those 8 years. But it is self-evident at this point.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (EVeeU)

262 did her husband cuck and stand by her?

Posted by: x at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (nFwvY)

263 >>Where's Jackstraw? I'd like to hear his take on the raid. It sounds very off to me.

I'd like to hear something about this from someone other than the NYT but at first blush it sounds like a classic problem with the special counsel statute. Ken Starr wasn't brought on to go after Bubba for doing interns in the White House.

According to the Times, this was not done by Mueller, he made a recommendation to the NY federal prosecutor and that prosecutor is going after Cohen. There are dueling prosecutions going after each other right now, Mueller vs Horowitz/Huber, and things seem to be heating up as we are getting near the IG report.

As with most things related to this investigation, it's probably worth waiting to get the facts before lighting your hair on fire.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

264 Rotten movie, but Brooke was sure a hottie.

Cute, but a terrible actress. She has gotten better, but she was just awful when young.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (39g3+)

265 >>Brooke was sure a hottie.


Yeah.

So hot I can forgive her for shooting me down when I was in 8th grade.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (NoJDX)

266 Fire Sessions. Make me AG your wish is my command.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (YxTUV)

He can't fire Sessions. The Senate won't confirm his replacement.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (UBzPO)

267 Typically its very bad news when the feds raid a lawyer, but at the same time: FBI has a pretty poor track record, and its clear Meuller is just desperate to find something to hurt Trump with.

So it could be anything, and we can only wait and see. But we're fast approaching a crisis in the system where the executive department is fighting against the executive and everything is set up to prevent him from responding or dealing with it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (39g3+)

Some judge gave them a search warrant and to get one for privileged documents probably isn't easy. I don't think desperation would cut it on a warrant. Maybe Cohen is involved in other stuff, but who knows. I haven't followed the porn/shark week stuff much at all, but this seems really weird.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (Z48ZB)

268 Also so nice of the FBI/Mueller/Asshole AG in NY to keep this confidential?????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (5y11N)

269 Does Comey have a bible verse about this?

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Well, Joseph's dreams told the truth and so do hers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (+y/Ru)

270 Yikes. The Brooke Shields 'Brenda Starr' is on.

Rotten movie, but Brooke was sure a hottie.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles



She's since "grown" in to a "nottie".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (YxTUV)

271 give up. If anybody needed a reason to keep a GOP majority, you're looking at it. This is battlespace prep for November. Hold the House and expand the lead in the Senate and all of this goes away.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:36 PM (RD7QR)

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You're assuming Mitch and Ryan are opposed to this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (ks6bw)

272 shibumi, i'm sorry .

i would think if he is faltering now when the relationship is pretty new and He would otherwise miss you every moment you aren't with him.. and trying to please you as you would be him..
it's not very promising.

but i'm not a professional

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (eaoOY)

273 Nah, don't fire him. Sue his ass. Personally.
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Harassment. Yup.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (MIKMs)

274

EM OAKRA FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (mPeei)

275
Yea, I'm thinking those 8 years of corruption is why this crap is going down. And now would be the time I'd go on my rant about the failure of our fourth estate to be the gatekeepers of democracy those 8 years. But it is self-evident at this point.
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Bingo. DC is Chinatown Jake. Its Chinatown.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:40 PM (2LelM)

276 As with most things related to this investigation, it's probably worth waiting to get the facts before lighting your hair on fire.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

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Yeah, but it looks a lot like the Wisconsin raids but on a national level.

Posted by: Blake at April 09, 2018 04:41 PM (qC1Sy)

277 He can't fire Sessions. The Senate won't confirm his replacement.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


Move Mattis over. Already confirmed.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:41 PM (YxTUV)

278 As with most things related to this investigation,
it's probably worth waiting to get the facts before lighting your hair
on fire.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

Seriously? Facts like that IG report being released a month ago?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:41 PM (UBzPO)

279
I don't really see any third option here. Raiding someone's lawyer on a fishing expedition is unbelievably stupid and incompetent and even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)


Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are walking around free today because of FBI misconduct

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 09, 2018 04:41 PM (lKyWE)

280 In principle I'm fine with the justice department going after a sitting president for crimes he or his staff have committed. They should have gone after Obama, for instance. Many times. I'm fine with raiding a lawyer's office, I mean "Better Call Saul" isn't entirely fiction.

What I'm not fine with is that this seems to be based not on any significant criminal action or plausible illegality, but on technicalities they're determined to turn into something big enough to topple a sitting president for simply because they hate him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (39g3+)

281 lol, does one get a whoring license ? Do porn stars get licenses?

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (eaoOY)


Certifications. And they have to take boards for certain specialties.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (8gDQu)

282 259 That's really just a straightforward provocation. Mueller is daring the Donald to fire him.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 09, 2018 04:11 PM (RD7QR)

Nah, don't fire him. Sue his ass. Personally.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (7UW64)
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He want's Trump to react and then charge Obstruction of Justice.

There is nothing illegal about the relationship or the payoff. It's only a black eye for Trump.

Don't fall for it Donnie two scoops. Wait for the IG report.

Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (G0vdT)

283 According to the Times, this was not done by Mueller, he made a recommendation to the NY federal prosecutor and that prosecutor is going after Cohen. There are dueling prosecutions going after each other right now, Mueller vs Horowitz/Huber, and things seem to be heating up as we are getting near the IG report.

As with most things related to this investigation, it's probably worth waiting to get the facts before lighting your hair on fire.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

Thanks. Wouldn't the normal first step be a subpoena, rather than a raid? I can't recall ever hearing about a legit law firm being raided.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (Z48ZB)

284 Deep State must have video of Sessions rimming an Alpaca or something. And no, I don't mean his wife.

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (r9UYA)

285 think i'll go try to calm down. search the web to see if their is more clarity on the raid/

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (eaoOY)

286 Trump should direct Sessions to open an investigation on McCabe's wife for receiving Clinton money illegally through McAuliffe. That might get Mueller's attention. He has a wife.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (2LelM)

287 He want's Trump to react and then charge Obstruction of Justice

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I suspect this is a good guess.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (ks6bw)

288 Yeah, but it looks a lot like the Wisconsin raids but on a national level.

It does. And like there, the chief executive seems to be fine with it taking place. And like there, who will stop them? Judges ordered them to halt and they just kept going because what's the judge going to do about it?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (39g3+)

289 As with most things related to this investigation, it's probably worth waiting to get the facts before lighting your hair on fire.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

Where's the fun in that?

Yeah, I know, we are supposed to act like adults, but that doesn't really entertain me like running around with my hair on fire.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (7UW64)

290 I can't recall ever hearing about a legit law firm being raided.
Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (Z48ZB)

yes but were they on double secret Probation?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (5y11N)

291 Old and busted: Thoughtcrime

New Hotness: Dreamcrime

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (BRvh1)

292 >>As with most things related to this investigation, it's probably worth waiting to get the facts before lighting your hair on fire.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

Oh please.

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (r9UYA)

293
Certifications. And they have to take boards for certain specialties.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM (8gDQu)

who knew?

thanks

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (eaoOY)

294 Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)

Cost benefit analysis says you are gaining nothing positive from this relationship, wish him well and move on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (n9EOP)

295 Trump's lawyer Cohen, raided by the FBI re Stormy Daniels.

The Deep State is on a porn bender that will, like all porn benders, end in dehydration, shame, and fatigue, but mostly shame.

Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (3AR39)

296 277 He can't fire Sessions. The Senate won't confirm his replacement.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


Move Mattis over. Already confirmed.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:41 PM

Or Mick Mulvaney. He is already doubled up so might as well make it three jobs.

Posted by: Lester at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (LfJIn)

297 The partisan Democrat prosecutor who brought this case may well end up in prison herself. She doesn't have a photo, no police report, and no specific evidence of the so-called blackmail attempt. She was warned about these deficits before bringing the case.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (oHt/4)

298 There is nothing illegal about the relationship or the payoff. It's only a black eye for Trump.

If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (39g3+)

299 Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are walking around free today because of FBI misconduct
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

their conduct was deliberate and achieved its aim. they have been corrupt for a while. it's only being noticed now.

Posted by: x at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (nFwvY)

300 I will have my dreamcrime
My dreamcrime
My dreamcrime
The only thing untouched that's mine
I will have my dream

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (ks6bw)

301 even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

You can never underestimate the stupidity of the average government worker.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (7UW64)

302 Does Stormy Daniels have anything to do with Russian collusion?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (oHt/4)

303 Wait for the IG report.
............

It will be out in late February or maybe March.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (HgMAr)

304 As the days go by I wonder why have an FBI at all? At this point what difference do they make?

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (2LelM)

305 Does Stormy Daniels have anything to do with Russian collusion?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (oHt/4)

Bet she has visited a few Dachas in her time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (5y11N)

306 257 lol, does one get a whoring license ? Do porn stars get licenses?
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:38 PM (eaoOY)

That's easy, at Companion school. Can't get into the good ports unless you have an Ambassador on board.

Posted by: Malcolm Reynolds at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (72PAC)

307 If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (39g3+)

Not exactly a high crime tough. They'll impeach him on it though unless enough members of congress are guilty of the same thing.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (UBzPO)

308 287
He want's Trump to react and then charge Obstruction of Justice



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I suspect this is a good guess.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (ks6bw)

So that makes the raid a fishing expedition on a sitting President?

Either Mueller has some juicy shit or he has so little that he just pushed all his chips in.
Yeah, let it stew a bit see what happens. Always a 36 hour rule with NYT reporting.

MSNBC better not be on in the gym tonight.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (ymnmz)

309 There is nothing illegal about the relationship or the payoff. It's only a black eye for Trump.

If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (39g3+)

Thats my very uneducated guess.

Campaign finance law. Very hard hitting.

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (Z48ZB)

310 Does Stormy Daniels have anything to do with Russian collusion?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm your huckleberry! at April 09, 2018 04:45 PM (oHt/4)


Doubtful. The Russians have $3 hookers who are much better looking than Stormy Daniels.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (8gDQu)

311 After reading that I think you sort of answered your
own question. People can change if they want to change, but if he's not
showing any sign of wanting to change and is stuck in a circle of
letting you down, it may be time to move on.



Do you really want to continue in a relationship with someone that's
only 30% in the game with you? That doesn't sound like a good deal, to
me.


Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin
-----

According to psychologists, the most reliable predictor of future behavior is . . . . .



. . . . . past behavior.



So you figure it out.


Posted by: TrivialPursuer
---
Tricky question. Were you sick enough that you
couldn't / didn't want to have sex? If he came to see you without the
expectation of sex that counts in his favor.



On the other hand, he may be banking that selfless gesture towards future sex. Guys can do that.


Posted by: Bandersnatch
--

Oh, there would have been no sex involved and yes, it would have been hard currency in the good deeds bank. But... he changed his plan at the last minute, which meant that the ONE thing I needed done I had to do myself. So there was no reason to come over.

Yes, people can change if they want to but I think this guy is set in his ways. And yes, past behavior is a good prediction for future behavior.

The funny this is the other day he mentioned that as he was driving home that this is the happiest he's been in a very long time. So I guess he prefers "unhappy."



Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (9oJYp)

312 >>Does Stormy Daniels have anything to do with Russian collusion?



She was in 'Collude on My Face' Vol. i - x.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:47 PM (NoJDX)

313 John Gotti's mob lawyer was never even raided if I recall correctly. They prevented him from representing Gotti but they never raided his office.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:47 PM (UBzPO)

314 286 Trump should direct Sessions to open an investigation on McCabe's wife for receiving Clinton money illegally through McAuliffe. That might get Mueller's attention. He has a wife.
Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM

That is a good idea. The penalties for money laundering not to mention bribery are pretty stiff.

Posted by: Lester at April 09, 2018 04:47 PM (LfJIn)

315 If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.
----------------
If so it is a crime that requires a fine. Given Trump self finance half of his campaign its pretty hard to say it was money covered under Finance Campaign Law.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:47 PM (2LelM)

316 Trump should direct Sessions to open an investigation on McCabe's wife for receiving Clinton money illegally through McAuliffe.

I would expect that figures heavily in the fabled IG report.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:47 PM (oVJmc)

317 >>Thanks. Wouldn't the normal first step be a subpoena, rather than a raid? I can't recall ever hearing about a legit law firm being raided.

Yea, I would think so. To get a warrant to do a raid like this they would have to prove to some judge there was a strong case that Cohen was hiding criminal information.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (/tuJf)

318 CNN and MSLSD must be a fapfest right now

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (CDETr)

319 WaPo comes up with a new tactic.

Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Opinion: Let's pay Trump to leave office

I hope Zock is willing to give up the foie gras and go back to eating Ramen Noodle because it's going to take some bucks to bribe Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (+y/Ru)

320 https://tinyurl.com/y78ft77q

US attorney to oversee FBI document release to House
By Caroline Kelly, CNN

Updated 12:34 PM ET, Mon April 9, 2018

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (EMi53)

321 Mueller reportedly sought documents and spoke to witnesses about Cohens involvement in negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow Cohen was reportedly in contact with Russian President Vladimir Putins chief spokesman about moving forward on the project but did not receive a response

the hill

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (eaoOY)

322 If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.

*WHY* would a billionaire need to skim $130K from campaign funds?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (oVJmc)

323 If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:44 PM (39g3+)


I highly, highly doubt Trump would have used campaign funds for something like that. He's not an idiot.

However, if campaign funds were used for anything of the sort then that is not a minor illegality. That would be major stuff. And it would be so retarded as to be beyond belief.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (8gDQu)

324 314 286 Trump should direct Sessions to open an investigation on McCabe's wife for receiving Clinton money illegally through McAuliffe. That might get Mueller's attention. He has a wife.
Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:42 PM

That is a good idea. The penalties for money laundering not to mention bribery are pretty stiff.
----------------------
This is what the Godfather would do. Mueller brings pressure, you bring bigger pressure. Let's see who ends up swimming with the fishes.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (2LelM)

325 If Mueller's wife is anything like him, he'd probably want her in prison.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (HgMAr)

326 Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM

Ditch the dud.

Posted by: Lester at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (LfJIn)

327 Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (9oJYp)

He's happy because he gets the benefit of having you in his life without actually putting in the work.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (wwd4n)

328 Is this a situation that can be resolved? I suspect that only way that it will be workable will be if I make no demands on him and simply accept that I am at the bottom of this list of top 50 priorities and will always be in that place. In other words, an 70/30 situation where he benefits 70% of the time, and my 30% means "going out to eat to nice places that he would go to any ways."
Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)



I'm sorry you were so sick shibumi, and glad you are doing better. It cannot be resolved unless you capitulate to his behavior, which you already have. I don't mean to be harsh, but there is no sign he values you or the relationship.

A person like him will continue to take advantage of others, and only change for a short period of time to keep you on the hook, and then he will revert back. I've seen it time and time again. Please honor yourself and your intuition and break ties with him. Unless you are willing to settle for that 30 percent. Which will be even less and less in the future. And your self-esteem will go with it.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (EVeeU)

329 The funny this is the other day he mentioned that as
he was driving home that this is the happiest he's been in a very long
time. So I guess he prefers "unhappy."
Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (9oJYp)

Sorry, Shibumi. If there is one thing I've learned about relationships is never expecting to change your partner. The 'flaws' they had on day 1 will be there on year 20; as it is with you.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (a0IVu)

330 >>*WHY* would a billionaire need to skim $130K from campaign funds?


The ATM outside the Champagne Room ran out of $5 bills?

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (NoJDX)

331 She's telling the truth. I saw the whole thing.

Posted by: Bobby Ewing at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (rv0Fo)

332 Mueller reportedly sought documents and spoke to witnesses about Cohens involvement in negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow Cohen was reportedly in contact with Russian President Vladimir Putins chief spokesman about moving forward on the project but did not receive a response

the hill
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (eaoOY)

So?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (5y11N)

333 321 add..Negotiations about the property fell apart in early 2016

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (eaoOY)

334 *WHY* would a billionaire need to skim $130K from campaign funds?



Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (oVJmc)


Didn't happen.

He already said he didn't know about the payoff, so he didn't do the deed, and if he had provided cash for it, it would have been from his private petty cash, not campaign money.

This is bogus on many levels.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (7UW64)

335 If so it is a crime that requires a fine. Given Trump self finance half of his campaign its pretty hard to say it was money covered under Finance Campaign Law.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:47 PM (2LelM)

-

I'm pretty sure only Planned Parenthood has non-fungible funding, racist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (ks6bw)

336 Ditch the dud.


Posted by: Lester at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM
--

Well, in his defense, he is very good at apologizing and then not changing his behavior one iota.

/oh wait, that's not a feature, that's a bug...

Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (9oJYp)

337 250 I don't really see any third option here. Raiding someone's lawyer on a fishing expedition is unbelievably stupid and incompetent and even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)
_____________________

Uh, have you met us?

We had advance notice of Saudi students in the U.S. taking flying (but not landing) lessons at U.S. flight schools, and advance notice of a planned terror attack in the U.S. using airplanes, but we were still shocked and amazed by 9/11.

We had advance notice from Russian intelligence agencies that the Tsarnaev brothers were terrorists-in-training, but we were still shocked and amazed when they planted bombs in the Boston Marathon.

We had advance notice that chronic troublemaker Nikolas Cruz wanted to be a school shooter (including a post on YouTube, under his own legal name, that said as much), but we were still shocked and amazed when he shot up a school.

We got Orlando Pulse nightclub shooter's terrorist wife to confess that she helped her husband plan the murders, but because we didn't bother to record her confession, and because we wrote up a bunch of summaries that contradicted each other, the jury acquitted her -- even though they believed she was guilty.

We're the FBI! There is nothing we can't fuck up!

Posted by: The New and Improved FBI at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (fqUgw)

338 She's telling the truth. I saw the whole thing.

Posted by: Bobby Ewing at April 09, 2018 04:49 PM (rv0Fo)

#MeToo

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (rv0Fo)

339 *WHY* would a billionaire need to skim $130K from campaign funds?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (oVJmc)


Trump would never do something so stupid. That's the sort of thing that only a real imbecile like John Edwards would do.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (8gDQu)

340 Is this a situation that can be resolved? I suspect that only way that it will be workable will be if I make no demands on him and simply accept that I am at the bottom of this list of top 50 priorities and will always be in that place. In other words, an 70/30 situation where he benefits 70% of the time, and my 30% means "going out to eat to nice places that he would go to any ways."
Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)

Because you are you I'll be honest with you and not judge. Yo, it's 2018! Use your female privilege and friend zone a few dudes to run errands for you and help you out. If you can do this, it's on them for being so dumb. Spin a few plates at once.

Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (tcQdP)

341 You don't suppose Mueller was dreaming about this raid, do you?

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (7UW64)

342 Trump should direct Sessions to open an investigation on McCabe's wife for receiving Clinton money illegally through McAuliffe. That might get Mueller's attention. He has a wife.
Posted by: Gumby


Arrest Mueller for fraud. He has had a year plus to find Russian collusion with zero evidence the fact that he keeps spending more taxpayer dollars is fraud.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (YxTUV)

343 The one dimension we aren't exploring is whether Mueller's actions are designed to save his buds in the FBI or the Dems? My sense is it is the former. Ergo, Trump should accelerate retirements in the FBI ASAP. Basic reason given is loss of trust and confidence - which would be true.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (2LelM)

344 nevergiveup ?

i dunno?

is that illegal?
lol

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (eaoOY)

345 John Gotti's mob lawyer was never even raided if I recall correctly. They prevented him from representing Gotti but they never raided his office.


Bruce Cutler. Just had an 80s flashback. Haven't thought of that name in years.

Like a Hollywood charicature mob lawyer. They only finally got Gotti when they got Cutler out of the way.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (fuK7c)

346 the fabled IG report.
.........

The one supposed to out in late February or March?

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (HgMAr)

347 Have you seen the penalties if you dip into your Roth?


Also, Lovie keeps a sharp eye on those retirement accounts. Can't be paying my side pieces out of those.

Posted by: Thurston Howell III at April 09, 2018 04:51 PM (NoJDX)

348 We knew Mueller was not going to give up... He has to find something..... Disgusting

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2018 04:51 PM (O2RFr)

349 Damn, those actors what have built houses around the world are going to be in a lot of trouble.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at April 09, 2018 04:51 PM (ks6bw)

350 OT: Just heard a Jeep grand Cherokee do an "engine start" sitting at a stoplight.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:52 PM (YxTUV)

351 >>The one supposed to out in late February or March?

Mid-March. LOL

Posted by: Under Fire Having A Good Psychological Experience at April 09, 2018 04:52 PM (r9UYA)

352 This corruptions runs so deep for so long its gonna take a decade to unravel, if DJT wins a second term another layer or FIVE will be exposed, they cannot have that so you get what you have today.

And if I hear another talking head talk about how the FBI rank and file folks are just the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread I'm gonna gouge my eyes out. No, the rank file folks have been there for years/decades, they could have blown the whistle on the corruption years ago if they were such fucking boy scouts. Going back to pre-clinton days, all the right people were put in all the right places to turn their head to all the wrong doing.


**SPIT**

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2018 04:52 PM (xqfqx)

353 322 If campaign funds were used, it might be illegal. A minor illegality, but illegal just the same.

*WHY* would a billionaire need to skim $130K from campaign funds?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (oVJmc)
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And was mostly self funded.

Posted by: WisRich at April 09, 2018 04:52 PM (G0vdT)

354 To be fair, I have some very lucid long dreams almost every night that I prefer over reality.

Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (tcQdP)

355 LOL, AYFKM?!?

I want to see the picture (maybe).

And, what's her problem?
She banged him, apparently.

We live in bizzaro-world.

Now to read the comments.




Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (8iiMU)

356 It does. And like there, the chief executive seems to be fine with it taking place. And like there, who will stop them? Judges ordered them to halt and they just kept going because what's the judge going to do about it?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:43 PM (39g3+)

-----------------------

It's almost like Wisconsin was a trial run or something.

Posted by: Blake at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (qC1Sy)

357 Wray, via Mueller, has just publicly shivved the President. Raiding his lawyer over a hooker? No. Wray and Rosie will never lower the boom on the FISA criminals, they as much as threw in with them today (Wray anyway, Rosie was always part of the team)

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (5gaNQ)

358 more good news.

The Congressional Budget Office forecast that the new tax law will generate an average of 0.7 percent growth over the decade and create 1.1 million jobs.
However, larger budget deficits would crowd out private investment in later years, dampening economic growth.
As a result the CBO estimated the cumulative deficit over the next decade will be $1.6 trillion larger than previously projected. By 2028 the national debt would total 96 percent of GDP

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (eaoOY)

359 OT: Just heard a Jeep grand Cherokee do an "engine start" sitting at a stoplight.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:52 PM (YxTUV)


Are you talking about that asinine "stop-start" stuff? I hate that shit. Maybe, since the mileage insanity is being lifted from the car manufacturers we can see an end to the tyranny of the "stop-start" silliness?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (8gDQu)

360 Mueller reportedly sought documents and spoke to witnesses about Cohens involvement in negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow Cohen was reportedly in contact with Russian President Vladimir Putins chief spokesman about moving forward on the project but did not receive a response

the hill
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:48 PM (eaoOY)

This angle sounds more likely to me than a porn payoff but also not worthy of a raid. Maybe someone has a secret Dossier, Pt. II where Cohen one ups Trump by pooping on a bed?

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (Z48ZB)

361 >>The one dimension we aren't exploring is whether Mueller's actions are designed to save his buds in the FBI or the Dems? My sense is it is the former.

Or just create the kind of noise and anger he's doing right now and distract from the other investigation.

Just this morning, Loretta Lynch came out of hiding after a year and basically said Comey lied under oath. Nobody here is freaking out about that because it doesn't hit the front page of a media source we all hate.

The IG/Huber are going after Mueller's guys and quite possibly even Mueller himself at some point. Wouldn't surprise me if Mueller wanted to fight back.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (/tuJf)

362 Raiding someone's lawyer on a fishing expedition is unbelievably stupid and incompetent and even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

I mean, the Noor Salman case should indicate that even with a sympathetic jury, the FBI will still fuck up to the point their credibility is in question. If Mueller didn't arrest Cohen on the spot then this is pretty blatantly a violation of attorney client confidentiality. But Jack's advice to actually wait before opining is probably the right one.

As if it matters, though. A Republican governor is on trial because some crazy broad testified to a weird sex dream? No offense, ladies, but knowing chicks like this exist is a huge argument in favor of Islamic law governing female testimony.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (jRA31)

363
He already said he didn't know about the payoff, so he didn't do the deed, and if he had provided cash for it, it would have been from his private petty cash, not campaign money.


If Cohen pays her, Cohen adds a line item to Trump's next bill for 'stamps.'

Trump pays the bill. He knows nothing about the payoff, he's just paying his lawyer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (oVJmc)

364 346: Jarndyce and Jarndyce. It will be shelved in January after they get rid of Pence and declare Pelosi POTUS

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:55 PM (5gaNQ)

365 Then Trump runs the real risk of losing to the Democrat/Republican Establishment play via the FBI/DOJ to remove his ass first.

=========
They got nothing to remove him on. Unless he obstructs justice by blocking an investigation. So he's just gotta suck it up and take it.

PS. They were going to drop this on him if he fired Mueller regardless. They were holding back and now they figured he's going to wait them out. So they are going to try and turn of the heat. I figure trump's paid off more than a couple of women and that'll come out. The worse case scenario for the dems is that it'll cost trump the woman's vote.

I think they misunderestimate the mood of the Country.

Posted by: because sarcasm is as good as it gets today at April 09, 2018 04:55 PM (z3FQb)

366 . By 2028 the national debt would total 96 percent of GDP

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:53 PM (eaoOY)


The national debt is already a good deal above GDP - and is constantly growing since annual deficits have been, and remain, larger than alleged "economic growth".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:56 PM (8gDQu)

367 The IG/Huber are going after Mueller's guys and
quite possibly even Mueller himself at some point. Wouldn't surprise me
if Mueller wanted to fight back.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (/tuJf)

Again, its a bit late for that. If that's what the IG report says when it's released weeks/months from now it's just going to be seen as cover or payback.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 09, 2018 04:56 PM (UBzPO)

368 That Federalist piece was published about a month ago, before the "dreaming" disclosure.

Posted by: mercenary13 at April 09, 2018 04:56 PM (zTO+K)

369 Just this morning, Loretta Lynch came out of hiding
after a year and basically said Comey lied under oath. Nobody here is
freaking out about that because it doesn't hit the front page of a media
source we all hate.



The IG/Huber are going after Mueller's guys and quite possibly even
Mueller himself at some point. Wouldn't surprise me if Mueller wanted to
fight back.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (/tuJf)
She threw Comey under the bus, didn't she? Can't wait to hear what that freak has to say now.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (a0IVu)

370 He already said he didn't know about the payoff, so he didn't do the deed, and if he had provided cash for it, it would have been from his private petty cash, not campaign money.

If Cohen pays her, Cohen adds a line item to Trump's next bill for 'stamps.'

Trump pays the bill. He knows nothing about the payoff, he's just paying his lawyer.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

_______

from my memory, did FBI agents storm Bill Clinton's legal counsel when he paid Paula Jones $850,000 to keep quiet?

Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (lKmt3)

371 Are you talking about that asinine "stop-start" stuff? I hate that shit. Maybe, since the mileage insanity is being lifted from the car manufacturers we can see an end to the tyranny of the "stop-start" silliness?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Yes. We were talking about that here late last week. Since the weathers nice and I'm able to drive with the window down I can hear that kind of shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (YxTUV)

372 >>The Congressional Budget Office


Can suck a wheelbarrow of dicks.

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (NoJDX)

373 If it wasn't Monday I'd get hammered.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (HgMAr)

374 361: and when exactly will they do that? Until Sessions and pwecious Holder exonerating Horowitz actually charge someone, it's all fantasy. This raid, on the other hand is very real.

No one will convince me that Wray did not give the go ahead.

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (5gaNQ)

375 Wray, via Mueller, has just publicly shivved the President. Raiding his lawyer over a hooker?
-----------------------
Wray cannot obstruct Mueller's investigation without being indicted for obstruction of justice. I'm pretty sure he knew it was going down and I'm pretty sure Honey Badger knew too.

As I've said, if Trump wants to squeeze Mueller's balls he will demand the resignations of every FBI Senior Leader tomorrow. That will remove all of Mueller's 'friends' leaving Mueller in the unenviable position of having to say 'I'm sorry guys about your career'. This is not how DC movers and shakers do business.

Posted by: Gumby at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (2LelM)

376 Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2018 04:52 PM (xqfqx)

Yes the standup rank and file troops at the FBI , have really been coming out of the woodwork to demonstrate their integrity!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (n9EOP)

377 Just this morning, Loretta Lynch came out of hiding
after a year and basically said Comey lied under oath. Nobody here is
freaking out about that because it doesn't hit the front page of a media
source we all hate.



The IG/Huber are going after Mueller's guys and quite possibly even
Mueller himself at some point. Wouldn't surprise me if Mueller wanted to
fight back.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (/tuJf)
She threw Comey under the bus, didn't she? Can't wait to hear what that freak has to say now.
Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (a0IVu)

I completely missed that. What did she say he lied about? The way she asked him to charachterize the Hillary kerfuffle? (NOT AN INVESTIGATION!!)

Posted by: LASue at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (Z48ZB)

378
He's happy because he gets the benefit of having you in his life without actually putting in the work.
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin

Yes, you are 100% right.
---
I don't mean to be harsh, but there is no sign he values you or the relationship.



A person like him will continue to take advantage of others, and
only change for a short period of time to keep you on the hook, and then
he will revert back. I've seen it time and time again. Please honor
yourself and your intuition and break ties with him. Unless you are
willing to settle for that 30 percent. Which will be even less and less
in the future. And your self-esteem will go with it.


Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel

I suspect you're 100% right as well.
---

Sorry, Shibumi. If there is one thing I've learned
about relationships is never expecting to change your partner. The
'flaws' they had on day 1 will be there on year 20; as it is with you.


Posted by: IC

Thank you for reminding me of this. I have made my expectations in terms of reliability known to him, and he has said he will work on it. Two days later, he pulled this, which really upset me, since I was really sick-- but I'm much better today.

At this point, I think he really wants me to break up with him, since he is doing exactly what he knows I do not want him to do.

Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (9oJYp)

379 370: Oh, hell no

Posted by: CN at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (5gaNQ)

380 My 2017 Ford F-150 does that engine stop/start at stoplights unless I over-ride or change the operating mode settings. I'm getting used to it but I can't help but worry what it does to the wear and tear on the starter, battery and other components.

Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (gbWkA)

381 >>Just this morning, Loretta Lynch came out of hiding


3 More Weeks of Winter!

Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (NoJDX)

382 The funny this is the other day he mentioned that as
he was driving home that this is the happiest he's been in a very long
time. So I guess he prefers "unhappy."
Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:46 PM (9oJYp)


Yes, because that is his way of keeping you on the hook. He knows exactly what he is doing. It is a head game. He failed you badly, so he throws out a small compliment to keep you around. Don't take him at his word that he is the happiest he has been. He has already proven himself to be a liar.

He may have never planned to come over and help you, but knew that wasn't acceptable, so he dragged it out the way he did. I'm so sorry to be so cut and dried on this, but sugar coating it wouldn't be fair to you.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (EVeeU)

383 Or just create the kind of noise and anger he's doing right now and distract from the other investigation. 

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (/tuJf)

That is goddamn crazy. Yes, it gets you a few precious days of media cycle, but if it's as successful as the Manafort indictment? Then you've broken a cardinal rule of Western law in exchange for very little. Mueller is "justifying his job day by day, but increasingly his actions are criminal themselves.

I mean, the rule of law is dead in this country for conservatives in general, and any President named Trump in particular, so that's no surprise.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (jRA31)

384
If anybody ever thought this was anything but "GET TRUMP", they are crazy, but should be educated now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2018 04:59 PM (r+sAi)

385 My 2017 Ford F-150 does that engine stop/start at stoplights unless I over-ride or change the operating mode settings. I'm getting used to it but I can't help but worry what it does to the wear and tear on the starter, battery and other components.

Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (gbWkA)


I get tired of having to turn the stop/start off every time I start the car (and massively annoyed) so I just drive in sport mode, now, which turns it off automatically.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 09, 2018 04:59 PM (8gDQu)

386 >>Again, its a bit late for that. If that's what the IG report says when it's released weeks/months from now it's just going to be seen as cover or payback.

Again, I know you believe that. The report was always do in the Spring, either March or April. It's not late.

If the IG has evidence of real crimes that were committed before, during and after the election it won't be too late for anything.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 04:59 PM (/tuJf)

387
If it wasn't Monday I'd get hammered.

Posted by: wth at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (HgMAr)


It's Tuesday in Australia

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (lKyWE)

388 At this point, I think he really wants me to break
up with him, since he is doing exactly what he knows I do not want him
to do.


Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (9oJYp)
You come across as a wonderful lady and I hope you make the decision that brings you the most peace.

Posted by: IC at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (a0IVu)

389 may i ask how a payoff is illegal if true?

doesn't congress also have a payoff Fund for this same thing?

but worse, accusations of rapity not rape and such?

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (eaoOY)

390 @357

We knew it was bad before this but what we are seeing is a whole different dimension.

And remember, Wray was nominated by Trump to replace Comey.

So unless you get someone from outside of government and the law profession it seems they will just get sucked down into the swamp.

Fuck it, move Puitt to the DOJ. and shuffle someone else thats been approved to fill his spot.

Because Trump literally can only trust a handful of people at this point to have his back.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (xY+4C)

391 If Cohen pays her, Cohen adds a line item to Trump's next bill for 'stamps.'

Trump pays the bill. He knows nothing about the payoff, he's just paying his lawyer.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Trump doesn't even cut the check. Trumps business manager is the one that cuts the check.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2018 05:00 PM (YxTUV)

392 NOOD OF DOOM

Posted by: Max Power at April 09, 2018 05:01 PM (QCc6B)

393 As if it matters, though. A Republican governor is on trial because some crazy broad testified to a weird sex dream?
***
I had an ex that got really mad at me because she had a dream where I cheated on her.

Note - I didn't actually cheat on her...it was just her dream.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (Z8FFX)

394 362 Raiding someone's lawyer on a fishing expedition is unbelievably stupid and incompetent and even the FBI isn't that retarded are they??

Posted by:Christopher R Taylor at April 09, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

I mean, the Noor Salman case should indicate that even with a sympathetic jury, the FBI will still fuck up to the point their credibility is in question. If Mueller didn't arrest Cohen on the spot then this is pretty blatantly a violation of attorney client confidentiality. But Jack's advice to actually wait before opining is probably the right one.

As if it matters, though. A Republican governor is on trial because some crazy broad testified to a weird sex dream? No offense, ladies, but knowing chicks like this exist is a huge argument in favor of Islamic law governing female testimony.
Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 04:54 PM (jRA31)

Our courts are broken. The rule of law does not exist. Rules don't either.

On my personal case, my ex is 3 years late on discovery and the judge is allowing her to give all discovery directly to the judge. My ex represents herself now.. So I don't even get a chance to authenticate anything or see his supposedly evidence, the judge made a ruling that it can all go to him. So that's breaking due process, rules of evidence, ex parte hearing, the local rules of the courts and Lord knows what else.

Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (tcQdP)

395 Mueller just crossed the Rubicon. So now he's gone from Russia to a porn star. Which means he's got jack and shit on Trump with Russia.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (kTQeF)

396 from my memory, did FBI agents storm Bill Clinton's legal counsel when he paid Paula Jones $850,000 to keep quiet?

Posted by: Maritime at April 09, 2018 04:57 PM (lKmt3)
----------------------

Hey let's set the way-back machine for Jan 1993 when the incoming Clinton administration fired every single one of the US Attorneys. Including the US Attorney investigating Whitewater. Oh was that an "investigation" or a "matter"? Doesn't matter, Slick shut that down right quick didn't he.

This deep state stuff scares the hell out of me. They are going for broke and if they win, nobody is safe.

Posted by: Boots at April 09, 2018 05:04 PM (EBwPV)

397
The funny this is the other day he mentioned that as he was driving home that this is the happiest he's been in a very long time. So I guess he prefers "unhappy."

Posted by: shibumi
________________

Look. It's really simple. Invite the bum over and whack 'em up side the head with an ashtray. Trust me,, I know about these things...

*hic*


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (mPeei)

398 Is this a situation that can be resolved? I suspect that only way that it will be workable will be if I make no demands on him and simply accept that I am at the bottom of this list of top 50 priorities and will always be in that place. In other words, an 70/30 situation where he benefits 70% of the time, and my 30% means "going out to eat to nice places that he would go to any ways."

Long distance relationships are always bad ideas to start out with. Do you need him more than he needs you? Or do neither of you need each other at all?

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2018 05:05 PM (k1TUh)

399 The Italian phrase for "share a dream" is "zuppa di pesce".

Posted by: Joey 'Two Bowls' Biden at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (C2b9T)

400 >>completely missed that. What did she say he lied about? The way she asked him to charachterize the Hillary kerfuffle? (NOT AN INVESTIGATION!!)

Comey testified under oath that he was concerned about the "matter" thing and expressed his concern to Lynch. Lynch said this morning it never happened. One of them is lying and while we don't have the testimony that Lynch gave behind closed doors its likely she said the same thing then, under oath.

But the bigger question is why is she talking at all and why now? She's been silent for a year, why is she going public right as the IG report is being prepped for delivery?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2018 05:06 PM (/tuJf)

401 >>>Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 04:33 PM (9oJYp)

Stand on your own two feet. You don't owe him any explanation; just, "No, I've got everything covered. Bye."

Posted by: m at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (U6XUk)

402 Very OT:

Advice and thoughts, please, oh wise members of the horde.

So, I've been in a long distance relationship with a guy who is... somewhat unreliable, and lately, things have gotten worse. We got into an argument over his inability to follow through a few days ago, and then, BAM! I got really sick. Really, really sick. I almost went to the hospital. Virus that causes very bad joint pain.

In any case, we resolved the earlier issue and he seemed to be very concerned about me, since I live alone and don't have anyone to do things like pick up medications and such. In fact, he offered more than once yesterday to come over to see me and help me out for the next few days. I really didn't answer right away, but eventually said yes because he really wanted to assure himself I was OK. The plan, as I understood it, was that he'd go to work, take part in an early conference call and then head out.

Well, that never happened, and instead, he wanted to show up after work, which meant he'd get here after 10pm, which would defeat the purpose of helping me out with trips to the store, since I needed the medication before that. So I said don't come. Because...''too little too late.' I pointed out to him that when I ask him for small favors-- which I rarely do-- he blows them off, and now, when he wanted to make a grand romantic gesture, he didn't follow through either. He feels bad, and is very good with saying the right thing and apologizing, but he has proven to me that I'm not a priority and that he's not completely reliable.

Is this a situation that can be resolved? I suspect that only way that it will be workable will be if I make no demands on him and simply accept that I am at the bottom of this list of top 50 priorities and will always be in that place. In other words, an 70/30 situation where he benefits 70% of the time, and my 30% means "going out to eat to nice places that he would go to any ways."
Posted by: shibumi at April




well, you should provide a few more details to help the horde. was he coming over after work because he had to stay at work? was he aware that you needed the meds by a certain time? did you need the meds at a particular time or was it a matter of the pharmacy closing at a certain time? maybe he thought he could pick up your meds at a different pharmacy and bring them over later.

your comment does not really describe a guy who is selfish perhaps so much as unaware or not fully tuned in. would seem he cares for you and your well being.

were he some selfish buffoon he would simply not bother with you until you were feeling well enough.

while being in a relationship that makes him happy is a benefit for anyone, nothing you described makes it seem like he is gaining more than you or is not concerned by you.

why would some guy you are in a long distance thing with want to commute to you after work to check in on you and help you with stuff if he did not care? what is in it for him beyond checking on you?

nothing like commuting long distance to check in on someone who is not feeling well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:08 PM (MTjB1)

403 nevergiveup ?

i dunno?

is that illegal?
lol
Posted by: willow at April 09, 2018 04:50 PM (eaoOY)

No.
He is a world wide developer. Normal Business and perfectly legal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 09, 2018 05:09 PM (5y11N)

404 Yes, because that is his way of keeping you on the
hook. He knows exactly what he is doing. It is a head game. He failed
you badly, so he throws out a small compliment to keep you around.
Don't take him at his word that he is the happiest he has been. He has
already proven himself to be a liar.



He may have never planned to come over and help you, but knew that
wasn't acceptable, so he dragged it out the way he did. I'm so sorry to
be so cut and dried on this, but sugar coating it wouldn't be fair to
you.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel

Actually, that makes a lot of sense and I don't need any sugar coating. Thank you be being frank.

LOL. Silly me. I really thought that a conservative guy would be different. Was I wrong. It is sad though, because we did have a lot of fun together, are very much alike in certain ways and have tons in common. Ah well.

Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (9oJYp)

405 My 2017 Ford F-150 does that engine stop/start at stoplights unless I over-ride or change the operating mode settings. I'm getting used to it but I can't help but worry what it does to the wear and tear on the starter, battery and other components.

Posted by: Archer at April 09, 2018 04:58 PM (gbWkA)

I get tired of having to turn the stop/start off every time I start the car (and massively annoyed) so I just drive in sport mode, now, which turns it off automatically.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April




well, on the one hand you both have my complete sympathy. hard to imagine any feature more detestable. on the other, heh.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (MTjB1)

406 Yes, because that is his way of keeping you on the
hook. He knows exactly what he is doing. It is a head game. He failed
you badly, so he throws out a small compliment to keep you around.
Don't take him at his word that he is the happiest he has been. He has
already proven himself to be a liar.



He may have never planned to come over and help you, but knew that
wasn't acceptable, so he dragged it out the way he did. I'm so sorry to
be so cut and dried on this, but sugar coating it wouldn't be fair to
you.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel



the hook for what? no sex and pharmacy delivery? yeah that happens all the time.

guys, I got this girl and the other day she was really sick so I was going to drive over and get her prescriptions for her and not have sex. who's the man!

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (MTjB1)

407 Test

Posted by: Mo at April 09, 2018 05:15 PM (3Pma+)

408 Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (9oJYp)

Dickery knows no politics. I'm sorry you've been going through this, but trust me a clean break is best.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 09, 2018 05:16 PM (wwd4n)

409 Our courts are broken. The rule of law does not exist. Rules don't either. 

On my personal case, my ex is 3 years late on discovery and the judge is allowing her to give all discovery directly to the judge. My ex represents herself now.. So I don't even get a chance to authenticate anything or see his supposedly evidence, the judge made a ruling that it can all go to him. So that's breaking due process, rules of evidence, ex parte hearing, the local rules of the courts and Lord knows what else.

Posted by: Monk at April 09, 2018 05:02 PM (tcQdP)

Yeah, your judge doesn't know why discovery exists.

Ah well. The advantage to our lifestyle is: When democracy becomes tyranny, we -still- have a vote!

Progression of boxes, baby. Do what you're comfortable with.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 05:17 PM (jRA31)

410 It is sad though, because we did have a lot of fun together, are very much alike in certain ways and have tons in common. Ah well. 

Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 05:10 PM (9oJY

You've been getting good advice, so let me briefly add: of you feel like you have to give two compliments for every one he gives, tell him that. And say you're good enough to deserve a better, equal relationship. But honestly there is only so much you can help someone who doesn't want to be helped.

Posted by: trev006 at April 09, 2018 05:20 PM (jRA31)

411
well, you should provide a few more details to
help the horde. was he coming over after work because he had to stay at
work? was he aware that you needed the meds by a certain time? did
you need the meds at a particular time or was it a matter of the
pharmacy closing at a certain time? maybe he thought he could pick up
your meds at a different pharmacy and bring them over later.



your comment does not really describe a guy who is selfish perhaps
so much as unaware or not fully tuned in. would seem he cares for you
and your well being.



were he some selfish buffoon he would simply not bother with you until you were feeling well enough.



while being in a relationship that makes him happy is a benefit for
anyone, nothing you described makes it seem like he is gaining more
than you or is not concerned by you.



why would some guy you are in a long distance thing with want to
commute to you after work to check in on you and help you with stuff if
he did not care? what is in it for him beyond checking on you?



nothing like commuting long distance to check in on someone who is not feeling well.


Posted by: yankeefifth
--

Some answers, hopefully:

1. The plan he presented was to attend an early meeting and then leave, to get here by late afternoon.

2. I needed meds picked up since I was running out and needed to take them before the evening. That was the main purpose of him coming over, since I didn't want to drive or be exposed to God knows what in the outside world while I'm recovering.

3. Did he have to stay at work? I don't know. He has a flexible sort of position, and could have said, "I have to take half a day" and leave. I also told him to bring his laptop with him and work here if needed.

4. Here's the thing: I was really sick. This virus gives you the symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis. For two days I was miserable. Yesterday, I started feeling better; he offered to come and stay to help me out, to make sure I was OK. He offered several times and said he wanted to do it. It only made sense if he left work early, since I did need help with things and he "wanted to take care of me." Well, he changed his today plans at the last minute, which meant he couldn't do the things I really needed done. So.. there was no point in him coming over.

5. He did know I needed medication during the day. If he showed up at 10 or 11pm, well, I would have to go get it myself. In the end, he could have known that as soon as he said "after work" I would have said "no." Which means he saved himself a trip, yet looked really caring and gallant.

5. Is he concerned or manipulating me? I don't know any more. He knows I find him unreliable and has proven I'm not a priority. I told him this a few days ago. And then.. this happens. He makes a great offer, and can't follow up the way it was presented. Because "work."

Note to the men of the horde: Don't make grand, romantic gestures that you can't follow up on. Women don't think highly of you when you do that.


Posted by: shibumi at April 09, 2018 05:25 PM (9oJYp)

412 364 President Pelosi will then appoint Scankles as VP. Pelosi willthenresign, making Scankles President. Sally Kohn will have an orgasm.

Posted by: mercenary13 at April 09, 2018 05:47 PM (PQgsV)

413 the hook for what? no sex and pharmacy delivery? yeah that happens all the time.

guys, I got this girl and the other day she was really sick so I was going to drive over and get her prescriptions for her and not have sex. who's the man!
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2018 05:12 PM (MTjB1)

I was basing my post on her comment that the relationship is 70/30 the majority of time. Also, she has talked about him before, iirc, and he was questionable then too.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 09, 2018 05:48 PM (EVeeU)

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