Dan Rather, Purveyor of Forgeries to Swing an Election, Tells You How to Avoid Fake News

One of the points from his "primer' is that trusting a news source doesn't mean that you believe they get everything right, but it does mean they admit their mistakes.

Plot twist: Dan Rather has never admitted his clear forgeries were forgeries and in fact continues suggesting that they may or may not be fake, but they are accurate:

He backs down not one inch from the story's two pillars: that former President George W. Bush gained entry to the Texas Air National Guard through his family's political influence to avoid serving in the Vietnam War; and that Bush was unaccounted for for a year of his assigned duty to that Guard unit. And Rather is steadfast in the blame he assigns for the fallout:
"The pressure got on from powerful people, including the White House, and the corporation disowned the story."
That "imperfect process" and its aftermath is the subject of James Vanderbilt's film, "Truth," with Cate Blanchett starring as Mary Mapes (Rather's producer and, as he calls her, his "right hand") and Robert Redford as Rather.

Listing the things he finds right with that horrible propganda film, he says...

He raises an eyebrow: "Betrayal by some of the people you work with."
As is well-documented in the fallout from the "60 Minutes II" broadcast aired by CBS on Sept. 8, 2004, it was the use of documents that had not been well-vetted that led to the questioning of the Bush story's veracity. And while those documents were never proved to be forgeries, they were never proved to be authentic either.
At the time, Rather acknowledged, "if I knew then what I know now -- I would not have gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly would not have used the documents in question."
But neither then, nor now, does he question the core point of the story.
"It's not a matter of opinion whether the central facts of the story were true or not; it's true," he says of the 2004 report. "One: That through the influence of his politically powerful father, George W. Bush got into a so-called champagne unit of the Air National Guard as a way of assuring he wouldn't have to go to Vietnam. And two: After he got in … he disappeared for more than a year."

So he's not taking a position on whether they were forgeries nor not, while clinging to the narrative the forgeries purported to prove, that Bush was absent from TANG service for a full year.

It's worth reading this old Daily Signal piece about how transparently fake the "memos" where, with language lifted from a
POS (partisan obsessive syndrome) liberals' blog making this claim, a blog which invented an acronym in 2004 which had never been used in the Air Force or any other service, but then which mysteriously appeared in the memos, supposedly from 1973.

.@DanRather’s guide to protecting yourself against fake news. pic.twitter.com/yvypbLBaKE
— The Young Turks (@TheYoungTurks) April 3, 2018

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:24 PM

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1 Aligned with Chunk Uygur, because of course he is.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:19 PM (CMbMd)

2 Dead career is dead.

Posted by: Guzalot at April 04, 2018 04:19 PM (prSvo)

3 Courage!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (7LY+6)

4 He's on a speaking tour.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (vg8iE)

5 Sold his ass for Qatari money.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (fA1SL)

6 My mentor and to be clear, my idol.

Posted by: Camera Hogg at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (r9UYA)

7 Sigh.

Dan Rather is still alive, and Breitbart is still dead.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (ptqGC)

8 The first thing is don't watch any news on the alphabets, and don't believe anything that lying asshole Rather says.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (mpXpK)

9 This old fool still drawing breath?

Posted by: Malcolm Tex at April 04, 2018 04:20 PM (GSJcT)

10 Dan Rather - Fake News Expert

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 04, 2018 04:21 PM (ROV4u)

11 Guilty as hell, free as a bird.

Posted by: Eromero at April 04, 2018 04:21 PM (zLDYs)

12 memo set to: THROB

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:21 PM (cB1y7)

13 I'm getting a real throbbing in my post......

Posted by: Jahrles Chonson at April 04, 2018 04:21 PM (avEKX)

14 >>One of the points from his "primer' is that trusting a news source doesn't mean that you believe they get everything right, but it does mean they admit their mistakes.

Like when a blogger mistakenly links Busty Lez Pron?

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2018 04:21 PM (ax1SH)

15 Dan needs to slink off and retire. He's just making a fool of himself now.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:21 PM (RD7QR)

16 Fake but accurate.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:22 PM (ptqGC)

17 Kenneth!!

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:22 PM (/tuJf)

18 Can't someone get this guy on a small plane and crash it, already?

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2018 04:22 PM (ax1SH)

19 Been to Dan Rathers Twitter account 3 times now, by trying to hit comments

Posted by: Skip Cats won it all at April 04, 2018 04:22 PM (aC6Sd)

20 Note to Dan Rather :

Stop Breathing My Air.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:22 PM (CMbMd)

21 Has he figured out the frequency yet?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (ptqGC)

22 Dan is THE expert on fake news after all

Posted by: Skip Cats won it all at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (aC6Sd)

23 Nobody pretends to be in Afghanistan better than I.

Posted by: Dan Rather at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (avEKX)

24 NG to head to the border starting tonight. Good.

Posted by: Camera Hogg at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (r9UYA)

25 I ceased to believe anything that 60 min ever said after they did a program on a nuclear power plant under construction in IL. I watched a counter video that the utility made showing what was actually said and what 60 min aired. 60 min was a crock of lying shit assholes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (mpXpK)

26 23 Nobody pretends to be in Afghanistan better than I.
Posted by: Dan Rather at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (avEKX)

"a-HEM!"

--Brian Williams

Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (CMbMd)

27 off commie sock

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (r9UYA)

28 Clowns top to bottom over there on the left. Ridiculous clowns.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 04, 2018 04:24 PM (Dp6qK)

29 How to avoid fake news? Easy peasy.

Don't listen to Dan Dangerman Rather.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:24 PM (7UW64)

30 1 Aligned with Chunk Uygur, because of course he is.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:19 PM (CMbMd)

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Talking about fake news while being paid by the TYT.

Posted by: William Eaton at April 04, 2018 04:24 PM (MuTTO)

31 My dear departed Grandpa was a kind, loving man who loathed Dan Rather with the heat of a thousand suns, and would not allow the bastard's face to show up on his TV. He was also not fond of Walter Cronkite.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (xPJvm)

32 This is where I came in to Ace of Spades...has it been that long already. Lurked for a number of years.

Hasn't this old fool faded away?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (avEKX)

33 You think Rather has a clue about what a national joke he is?

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (O5Q3r)

34 No way, it's like watching someone parachute without a parachute.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (wB8Tg)

35 60 min was a crock of lying shit assholes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 04, 2018 04:23 PM (mpXpK)

They never show the full title of that program. It is actually "60 Minutes of Demagoguery by Democraps."

They edit out the last bit.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (7UW64)

36 DanMan,

I added a comment on the beach thread. Thanks.

Posted by: Undocumented at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (5NMZN)

37 My dear departed Grandpa was a kind, loving man who
loathed Dan Rather with the heat of a thousand suns, and would not allow
the bastard's face to show up on his TV. He was also not fond of Walter
Cronkite.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (xPJvm)

Same with my late dad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (ptqGC)

38 Tanya Harding explains how to avoid getting kneecapped.

Ted Kennedy explains how to avoid getting left to suffocate in a submerged car.

Ted Kaczynski explains how to avoid getting blown to smithereens by explosives in postal packages.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (huQJB)

39 Wait the "news" is no more reliable than an internet encyclopedia?

Stuff and nonsense.

They have professional degrees.

Credentials man! Credentials!!!!

Posted by: simplemind at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (e68PI)

40 Young Turks

Those damn Erdogan kids again ?

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (ROV4u)

41 OT: archaeology org news has "new thoughts on Neanderthal nasal passages ".

think I would rather read about cave man boogers than anything Rather is likely to emit

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (cB1y7)

42 Who's more pathetic - Dan Rather for hooking up with The Young Turks, or The Young Turks hooking up with him? Or does the combination somehow reach some sorta critical mass of suck and sanctimony? I'm tending to favor that last theory about now.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (fA1SL)

43 I would prefer to watch him tied to a palm tree during a hurricane. That was his best work.

Posted by: Gumby at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (2LelM)

44 Hey Dan, show us your old man balls.

Posted by: equal opportunity heckler from last thread who wanted to see the girl's tits at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (HgMAr)

45 Let me tell how to win friends and influence people.

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (OR+bx)

46 Just Retire Already.

Sad!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (W+vEI)

47 33 You think Rather has a clue about what a national joke he is?
Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (O5Q3r)

+++

Jimmy Carter "aware".

Posted by: washrivergal at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (Kcf2u)

48 Credentials man! Credentials!!!!

Posted by: simplemind at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (e68PI)

All you need is some shiny paper, a printer and a laminator, and then an official looking lanyard.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (7UW64)

49 >>Dan needs to slink off and retire. He's just making a fool of himself now.

That ship sailed so long ago it's been around he globe a dozen times. As long as we have leftwing halfwits he will have an audience.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (/tuJf)

50 zombie George Orwell wants to inform Dan Rather that "1984" and its revisionist history "Ministry of Truth" were warnings, not instructional manuals for a fascist state.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (bT8Z4)

51 34 No way, it's like watching someone parachute without a parachute.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (wB8Tg)

Yeah, it's like watching your grandpa try to make a pass at the waitress at Denny's. Stop. Please, just stop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (RD7QR)

52 Tanya Harding explains how to avoid getting kneecapped.

Ted Kennedy explains how to avoid getting left to suffocate in a submerged car.

Ted Kaczynski explains how to avoid getting blown to smithereens by explosives in postal packages.

Charles Manson explains how to avoid getting cut with knives.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (r9UYA)

53 he kinda reminds me of comey

Posted by: concrete girl at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (h9wAA)

54 44 Hey Dan, show us your old man balls.

Posted by: equal opportunity heckler from last thread who wanted to see the girl's tits at April 04, 2018 04:26 PM (HgMAr)

Ewwwwwwww.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (7UW64)

55 NEXT UP: Bill Clinton on the Virtues of Chastity and Fidelity

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (oVJmc)

56 WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY, KENNETH!!??!!

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (O5Q3r)

57 I'm pretty sure Dan uses canvas bags for his groceries.

Posted by: Gumby at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (2LelM)

58 Hey Dan, show us your old man balls.
Posted by: equal opportunity heckler from last thread who wanted to see the girl's tits

Here, I got some in the freezer, not sure whose they are though...

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (OR+bx)

59 That crooked fuck Rather wouldn't know the frequency if someone beat it into him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (7qnb5)

60 >>60 min was a crock of lying shit assholes.

My trick to enjoying assholes is to fill 'em with champagne!!

Posted by: Steve Kroft at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (W+vEI)

61 He and Comey should have lunch.

Posted by: golfman at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM (48QDY)

62 Don't let the strobe lights get you down, Danny boy.

Love,

Posted by: Kurt "Octodad" Eichenwald at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (xHfph)

63 say what you will. the young turks meltdown on election night is still the funniest thing on you tube.

Posted by: IC at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (a0IVu)

64 Yeah, it's like watching your grandpa try to make a pass at the waitress at Denny's. Stop. Please, just stop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (RD7QR)

My grandpa tired to grab a cute nurse's backside and fell out of the hospital bed and broke his other hip.

But, he went down fighting.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (7UW64)

65 Rolling Stone explains how to avoid posting defamatory lies in your magazine.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (huQJB)

66 well, Dan already showed his ass. metaphorically.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (cB1y7)

67 Posted by: concrete girl

note to self > Always check comments...

Posted by: golfman at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (48QDY)

68
If you have to keep explaining a decade later... it was a lie.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (LOgQ4)

69
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn4w-ud-TyE

Walter Cronkite - Peace with honor, through negotiations. It is the best we can do.

Seven years later the democrats refused any further aid to South Vietnam when they were invaded, yet again, by regular army troops from the North.

Honor, that's what it is all about.

I've never believed a word any newsman said since 1968.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (roQNm)

70 Next up: Two lovely lesbian ladies explain how to adopt and raise a biracial family. The more the merrier!

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (7UW64)

71 -
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My trick to enjoying assholes is to fill 'em with champagne!!

Posted by: Steve Kroft at April 04, 2018 04:28 PM

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And that's the way it taint.

Posted by: Walter Cronkite at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM (pMGkg)

72 How to avoid unnecessary postal charges and jay walking.

Posted by: David Berkowitz at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM (r9UYA)

73 I should have gone out on a beach during a Hurricane.

It would have been the right way to end.

Now I have to ask for handouts from some Turkish guy and his Armenian girlfriend. Like how the hell does that happen?

Posted by: Dan "Gunga Dan" Rather at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM (MuTTO)

74 Rolling Stone explains how to avoid posting defamatory lies in your magazine.
Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (huQJB)

Heh.

Posted by: golfman at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM (48QDY)

75 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM (G0qhR)

76 Any chance Dan paints his toes?

Posted by: Gumby at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM (2LelM)

77

EM GUANABANA FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 04, 2018 04:31 PM (mPeei)

78 David Berkowitz explains how to avoid taking your dog's advice about killing people.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:31 PM (huQJB)

79 "Walter Cronkite - Peace with honor, through negotiations. It is the best we can do.
"

And the lie that the North had kicked our asses in the Tet Offensive.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 04, 2018 04:31 PM (aVYsC)

80 "9 This old fool still drawing breath?
Posted by: Malcolm"

Someone on Twitter posted a recent picture of Rather posing with Matthew Dowd, Brian Stelter and Katy Tur. Since Katy Tur's top is a couple of sizes too small, the picture is of a bunch of boobs.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (OD2ni)

81 Jeffrey Dahmer explains how to avoid becoming part of Golden Corral's buffet.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (huQJB)

82 70 Next up: Two lovely lesbian ladies explain how to adopt and raise a biracial family. The more the merrier!
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Cheaper by the Half Dozen.

Posted by: Gumby at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (2LelM)

83 -
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Any chance Dan paints his toes?

Posted by: Gumby at April 04, 2018 04:30 PM

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Like sitting to far forward in the outhouse?

Posted by: Dan Rather at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (pMGkg)

84 If Rather's allegations had been true, he would not have resorted to use of phony evidence.

False in one, false in all.

Posted by: SarahW at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (Sp1NT)

85 Please allow me to expound on successful marriages and golf careers.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (OR+bx)

86 Recall Rather's mewlingly sycophantic Saddam interview. And his ridiculous telephone-pole-hugging hurricane reports.

And his fully-baked-folksy quips. A phony from start to finish.

Courage!

Posted by: 13times at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (K3B2k)

87 Peter Jennings did the honorable thing and died.

Brokaw and Rather continue to pop up to spout the wisdoms one can only get from some guy in a suit hired to read words off a teleprompter.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (4ErVI)

88 Neville Chamberlain explains how to avoid becoming known as the world's biggest pussy.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (huQJB)

89 >>David Berkowitz explains how to avoid taking your dog's advice about killing people.

True story, my late aunt was one of Berkowitz' psych nurses. I asked her what she thought of him.

She told me he was, and I quote, nuts. Science!

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (/tuJf)

90 >>Tanya Harding explains how to avoid getting kneecapped.

Ted Kennedy explains how to avoid getting left to suffocate in a submerged car.

Ted Kaczynski explains how to avoid getting blown to smithereens by explosives in postal packages.

Charles Manson explains how to avoid getting cut with knives.
- - - - -

Bernie Madoff on how to spot investment scams.

Obama on how to be patriotic.

Sheila Jackson Lee on how to be polite. And coherent.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (W+vEI)

91 Courage!

Posted by: 13times at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (K3B2k)

Because you need courage to face down all the people who know you are full of shit?

WTF did he ever mean by that?

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (7UW64)

92 She told me he was, and I quote, nuts. Science!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (/tuJf)

Can't argue with science.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM (huQJB)

93 I no longer even slightly like GW Bush but I believe he requested on more than one occasion to be sent to Vietnam and fly in combat.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 04:34 PM (LiyEm)

94 Zombie JFK, Jr. teaches us all about instrument flying in zero visibility.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:34 PM (ptqGC)

95 Emmanuel Macron explains how to marry someone in your own age group.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:34 PM (r9UYA)

96 it was always ridiculous for a washout to be pointing at someone else's military service.

Posted by: x at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (nFwvY)

97 64 Yeah, it's like watching your grandpa try to make a pass at the waitress at Denny's. Stop. Please, just stop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (RD7QR)

My grandpa tired to grab a cute nurse's backside and fell out of the hospital bed and broke his other hip.

But, he went down fighting.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:29 PM (7UW64)

A true moron! [Salute]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (RD7QR)

98 -
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Brokaw and Rather continue to pop up to spout the
wisdoms one can only get from some guy in a suit hired to read words off
a teleprompter.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 04, 2018 04:33 PM

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One thing the Brits do better than us is calling them newsreaders.

Posted by: irright at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (pMGkg)

99 Joe Stalin on how to win friends and influence people.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (7UW64)

100 >>True story, my late aunt was one of Berkowitz' psych nurses. I asked her what she thought of him.

Heh. A friend's dad worked at the prison he's in, said the guy just stares at you. And stares, and stares. Unnerving.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (W+vEI)

101 General Custer expounds on ways to avoid becoming a human pincushion.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (huQJB)

102 About the only thing Dan has to look forward to is the media's tongue bath whitewash obituaries when he dies.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (O5Q3r)

103 Ted Kennedy offers driving and diving tips.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (/tuJf)

104 Luke Crisco explains how to keep a hygienic and stable home, ensuring privacy for residents in between yoga.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (cB1y7)

105 Someone on Twitter posted a recent picture of Rather posing with Matthew Dowd, Brian Stelter and Katy Tur. Since Katy Tur's top is a couple of sizes too small, the picture is of a bunch of boobs.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 04, 2018 04:32 PM (OD2ni)

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Sea of Titties!!! Yea!

Posted by: Cenk Uygur at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (MuTTO)

106 What*s the frequency, Kenneth?
That story is proof that anonymous heroes walk among us.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (AfOD4)

107 Would be cool if Bush had said "fuck yeah I was missing for a year. I was busy snorting coke and fucking ladyboys, you got a problem with that?"

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (q177U)

108 Dan Rather White House Press Corp during the Nixon years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfjsXqNrEcY

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (roQNm)

109 Joe Stalin on how to win friends and influence people.

He's good at it, believe me.

Posted by: Zombie Walter Duranty at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (O5Q3r)

110 Truth.Ironic name for a movie about a hoax.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (LiyEm)

111 I'm still shocked CBS fired him even though he deserved it ten times over.

I remember thinking the tide had finally turned and maybe the internet would be a less biased place to get news moving forward then the dinosaur network monopoly we had been subjected to.

Instead, I would argue most mainstream internet news outlets are 1,000 times worse than the big networks ever were.

Posted by: Maritime at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (lKmt3)

112 Yeah, it's like watching your grandpa try to make a pass at the waitress at Denny's. Stop. Please, just stop.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:27 PM (RD7QR)

It's like a webcam on the climbing wall at an osteoporosis clinic.

It's like Date Night at an elementary school in Afghanistan.

It's like the blooper reel for Deadpool.

It's like the veterinary masturbator booth at the job fair.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (wB8Tg)

113 In Peruvia, a Cenk Uygur is a bidet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:36 PM (ptqGC)

114 A true moron! [Salute]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:35 PM (RD7QR)

Same grandpa who shot a guy dead who was mugging him on a street in Seattle. He was okay with giving the thug his wallet, but when the dude went for his dog, that was the end. Pearl-handled .45 FTW. No charges were ever filed.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (7UW64)

115
Mayor Wilson Goode of Philadelphia explains how a peaceful 'entry device' can bring closure to a neighborhood tormented by 'back to nature' activists with rats. Lots of rats.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (LOgQ4)

116 Rather gained notoriety telling big fucking lies claiming that Dallas school children were applauding when they heard that JFK had be shot. .

Posted by: mr tmz at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (m/Gc2)

117 78 David Berkowitz explains how to avoid taking your dog's advice about killing people.
Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:31 PM (huQJB)

Don't listen to the schnauzers. Evil bastards.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (RD7QR)

118 Check for strawberries Danny.

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (FhXTo)

119 This is how you get Trump.

Be careful what comes next. I hear the view from Marine One is spectacular.

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (q177U)

120 George HW Bush explains how to grope a young girls ass and not look like a degenerate old man perv.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (r9UYA)

121 Edmund Kemper explains how to avoid sex with dead people.

Posted by: wth at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (HgMAr)

122 Can't Dan and Hillary slink off into the sunset? Together or separately, just GO. Now.

Posted by: the Butcher at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (DIosY)

123 Truth.Ironic name for a movie about a hoax.

Well they coudn't call it What Bullshit...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (O5Q3r)

124 Well slap my a## and fax me from Kinko's, it's courageous Dan Blather here to tell us the frequency needed to detect fake news!

Blurgh.

Why didn't this excrement stay in the septic tank?

Posted by: TCDD, Pointing/Laughing Dept. at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (uXH5Q)

125
One of the points from his "primer' is that trusting a news source doesn't mean that you believe they get everything right, but it does mean they admit their mistakes.

So has he admitted he was wrong about Hurricane Vlad bearing down on the White House.?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (lKyWE)

126 120 George HW Bush explains how to grope a young girls ass and not look like a degenerate old man perv.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (r9UYA)

"Hold my Beer."

--Joe Biden

Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (CMbMd)

127 >>say what you will. the young turks meltdown on election night is still the funniest thing on you tube.

YES
And MSNBC!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (W+vEI)

128 "I'm still shocked CBS fired him even though he deserved it ten times over."

Rather/Mapes made the mistake of making it so obvious that the memos were fake CBS had no choice.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (OD2ni)

129 I will admit that I thought the link was a parody, a good when I saw it this morning. When I realized it was, umm, serious, I thought about injecting Val-U-Rite into my eyeballs.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (huQJB)

130
I no longer even slightly like GW Bush but I believe he requested on
more than one occasion to be sent to Vietnam and fly in combat.
=====

Wasn't his dad CIA at that time? Talk about a high-value hostage.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (MIKMs)

131 The only reason it is peculiar for Rather to lecture about fake news is the lack of awareness of the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect and the gullibility of the American herd.

Put a microphone in front of someone or have them read something off a screen, and people forget that they are just like any other trained monkey doing what trained monkeys do.

I thank Trump for blatantly exposing this for all to see. The ones who still do not get it are a lost cause.

Rare is the exception of the news man or woman who actually understands the topic about which they are speaking with apparent authority or condescending to lecture about the dangers. Even more rare is the one who can actually do research and string together an intelligible thought without straying from facts and recognizing the difference between provable assertions and opinions.

I'd say it it less than 1 in 100. I am feeling dlampish.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (Dp6qK)

132 Old Danny was also king of the Vietnam bang-bang news report. Frak'n phony liar.

Posted by: 13times at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (K3B2k)

133 Courage.

And not that cowardly lion type, either.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (p6e8W)

134 Same grandpa who shot a guy dead who was mugging him
on a street in Seattle. He was okay with giving the thug his wallet,
but when the dude went for his dog, that was the end. Pearl-handled .45
FTW. No charges were ever filed.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:37 PM (7UW64)

*salute!*

My late dad used to visit my sister in her sketchy neighborhood in Coconut Grove, FL (it's no longer sketchy, but it was back then). He loved to go for walks. Armed. Just waiting for some punk to try something.

Thankfully, no one did. My sister said he looked like a police decoy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (ptqGC)

135 *a goof

Crikey, I can't even type correctly here.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (huQJB)

136 "113 In Peruvia, a Cenk Uygur is a bidet.
Posted by: Jane D'oh"

HERE COMES HILLARY!!!

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (OD2ni)

137 >>>This is where I came in to Ace of Spades...has it been that long already. Lurked for a number of years.

I think so too. Ace and Charles used to link each other. I caught wind of Ace o' Spades right around the time of the Flahing Word Document Gif.

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (q177U)

138 TCDD, the cream rises to the top... and so do floaters.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (cB1y7)

139 Who?

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Posted by: Sharkman at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (BfOXk)

140 Don't know if anyone else saw that Nasim the YouTube shooter used a S&W 9 mm handgun, and FBI stats show women are less than 4% of perpetrators

Posted by: Skip Cats won it all at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (aC6Sd)

141 No way, it's like watching someone parachute without a parachute.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (wB8Tg)

Is that a Captain America reference?

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (q177U)

142 The reclamation of Dan Rather as a wise old man of journalism, full of integrity and knowledge, is why clowns that deal drugs, sell used cars, are multi-level marketers, hate doges, and take 25 items through the 10 items or less line have a higher approval rating than journalists.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (mf5HN)

143
YES

And MSNBC!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:38 PM (W+vEI)
especially the par when Cenk goes all manic on the DNC leaders - we are coming for you!!!

Posted by: IC at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (a0IVu)

144 Zombie JFK, Jr. teaches us all about instrument flying in zero visibility.

I knew somebody who knew somebody. JFK Jr. literally got nagged to death. (Actually, I knew somebody who was at the wedding waiting for it to happen).

He didn't want to fly at night by instruments. The wife insisted that they take her sister along. She was late. He got badgered into flying in conditions he wasn't trained for.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (fuK7c)

145 Oh For Font's Sake!!

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (UUnqW)

146 Don't know if anyone else saw that Nasim the YouTube shooter used a S&W 9 mm handgun, and FBI stats show women are less than 4% of perpetrators
Posted by: Skip Cats

Is that on the California approved list?

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (MS0+a)

147 Mapes got her start in Seattle with creative journalism. Some of the roots of Seattle PD and charges of racism are based on her efforts.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (0tfLf)

148 144 Makes it even more pathetic if true.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (LiyEm)

149 >>One of the points from his "primer' is that trusting a news source doesn't mean that you believe they get everything right, but it does mean they admit their mistakes.

I'm not sure that's such a good measure in our current MSM world of tweeting a false story - ZOMG TRUMP OVERFED FISH!!! - that gets retweeted a few million times, while the correction the next day gets retweeted ,aybe 53 times.

Damage done, by design.

Does not make them honest, it shows how manipulative they are via social media.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (W+vEI)

150 The reclamation of Dan Rather as a wise old man of journalism, full of integrity and knowledge, is why clowns that deal drugs, sell used cars, are multi-level marketers, hate doges, and take 25 items through the 10 items or less line have a higher approval rating than journalists.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (mf5HN)

Here you go, alex. After reading that story, I borrowed your eye-heroin kit. Sorry I didn't ask first.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (huQJB)

151 The reclamation of Dan Rather as a wise old man of journalism, full of integrity and knowledge, is why clowns that deal drugs, sell used cars, are multi-level marketers, hate doges, and take 25 items through the 10 items or less line have a higher approval rating than journalists.
========
But you have a higher opinion of journalists than you do of us *sad trombone*

Posted by: internet encyclopedias at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (eUjaP)

152 Lindsey Graham explains how to marry for life.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:41 PM (r9UYA)

153 "clowns that deal drugs"

aka, clowns.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:42 PM (cB1y7)

154
Well, it took Cronkite until he almost died to admit he was doing propaganda on behalf of the Left.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2018 04:42 PM (r+sAi)

155 Berkowitz is a born again Christian last I heard.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 04, 2018 04:42 PM (QGpIE)

156 >>The reclamation of Dan Rather as a wise old man of journalism, full of integrity and knowledge, is why clowns that deal drugs, sell used cars, are multi-level marketers, hate doges, and take 25 items through the 10 items or less line have a higher approval rating than journalists.

Heck, even lawyers have higher approval ratings than Dan. Some lawyers.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (/tuJf)

157 As these old leftists get older, they try desperately to relive their "glory" days and/or revive their sunk reputations. Go away Dan.

Posted by: Cheri at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (oiNtH)

158
Wasn't his dad CIA at that time? Talk about a high-value hostage.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (MIKMs)

No, his dad was only head of the CIA for about a year 1976-1977

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (lKyWE)

159 Ha Rat Nerd is an anagram for Dan Rather.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (ROV4u)

160 Is that Brian Williams' grandpa?

Posted by: wth at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (HgMAr)

161 Heck, even lawyers have higher approval ratings than Dan. Some lawyers.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (/tuJf)

Hey, it's only 99.9% of them that give the rest a bad name.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:43 PM (huQJB)

162 Pope Francis explains damnation and spending eternity in Hell.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:44 PM (r9UYA)

163 OT, but I knew it.

https://youtu.be/bTVXCxbC2to

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 04, 2018 04:44 PM (CPk08)

164 Greetings:

Punks don't fly jets.

Posted by: 11B40 at April 04, 2018 04:44 PM (evgyj)

165 I caught wind of Ace o' Spades right around the time of the Flahing Word Document Gif.
Posted by: Max Power

Geez. Has it been that long? I know I've been here for both of Obola's terms, just can't remember how earlier than that.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 04:44 PM (G0qhR)

166 Fucking Bush's presidency is long over. The man is currently taking pictures of his toes in the bathtub.

But Rather is still doing that thing with his mouth.

Honestly, it's the same lunacy that's driving Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 04, 2018 04:45 PM (VpIIl)

167 Dahmer became born again in prison too. I hope the chaplain kept his fingers away from his mouth when serving the Host

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:46 PM (cB1y7)

168 Is that a Captain America reference?

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM (q177U)

No, it was actually a parachute reference.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2018 04:46 PM (wB8Tg)

169 I know I've been here for both of Obola's terms, just can't remember how earlier than that.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 04:44 PM (G0qhR)

I became aware of the site when NRO posted a link to the Head Ewok's analysis of the 2004 Dem candidates as D&D characters. Been a long strange trip, but I'm a strange person, which makes it a good fit.

Posted by: physics geek at April 04, 2018 04:46 PM (huQJB)

170 "I knew somebody who knew somebody. JFK Jr. literally got nagged to death. (Actually, I knew somebody who was at the wedding waiting for it to happen).

He didn't want to fly at night by instruments. The wife insisted that they take her sister along. She was late. He got badgered into flying in conditions he wasn't trained for.
Posted by: Bandersnatch"

My brother's crazy ex-wife actually told him she had enough of the marriage when we all laughed when Captain Jenks (Howard Stern prank caller) pranked Dan Rather during the search for JFK, Jr.'s plane. Jenks claimed to be a Coast Guard captain and got on the air and told Rather that Howard Stern thinks he's a dick. Hilarious.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 04, 2018 04:46 PM (OD2ni)

171 Rather is angry, because he really believed that if you lie about something often enough, people will believe it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2018 04:46 PM (7ZVPa)

172 I honestly don't remember exactly when and how I got to the HQ.Pretty sure I followed a link from another site and never left.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 04:47 PM (LiyEm)

173 alex, if you want to see more about why the shooter was thought to be a tranny, a bunch of us tried to explain over on the "Radical Animal Rights" thread.

Posted by: m at April 04, 2018 04:47 PM (U6XUk)

174 I caught wind of Ace o' Spades right around the time of the Flahing Word Document Gif.
Posted by: Max Power

Geez. Has it been that long? I know I've been here for both of Obola's terms, just can't remember how earlier than that.
Posted by: rickb223

Same, then I got purged ... and end up here

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2018 04:47 PM (MS0+a)

175 /off

Posted by: runner at April 04, 2018 04:47 PM (OR+bx)

176 Wasn't his dad CIA at that time? Talk about a high-value hostage.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (MIKMs)

No he was just a House Rep and then UN Ambassador in 72 or so . CIA in 1976.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 04, 2018 04:47 PM (QGpIE)

177 Hillary demonstrates how to lose as gracefully as a housecoat flows over wide hips.

Posted by: SarahW at April 04, 2018 04:48 PM (Sp1NT)

178 I was 8 when we lost the Vietnam war according to Cronkite - which was odd because my father was there at the time. The news media lost me when we all watched Sam Donaldson begin the disgracing of his profession with his Nixon treatment, and importantly when Rather a seemingly normal from Texas became as big a commie as Uncles Walter (Duranty and Cronkite). Haven't trusted one of them since.

Posted by: rammajamma at April 04, 2018 04:48 PM (oAlzZ)

179 Geez. Has it been that long? I know I've been here for both of Obola's terms, just can't remember how earlier than that.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 04:44 PM (G0qhR)

Yea I was here before that JEF was elected but don't how long.

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at April 04, 2018 04:48 PM (czkHE)

180 As is well-documented in the fallout from the "60 Minutes II" broadcast aired by CBS on Sept. 8, 2004, it was the use of documents that had not been well-vetted that led to the questioning of the Bush story's veracity. And while those documents were never proved to be forgeries, they were never proved to be authentic either.

I saw the subsequent "60 Minutes II" show where they tried to defend the shoddy reporting of the first "60 Minutes II" report on the TANG story, and it was a real hoot. It was like a lawyer trying to defend his obviously guilty client by claiming "Your Honor, I can produce 500 witnesses who did NOT see my client knock over that liquor store."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at April 04, 2018 04:48 PM (I3yXU)

181 Well, it took Cronkite until he almost died to admit he was doing propaganda on behalf of the Left.

It paid well though. I remember seeing his sailboat on Cape Cod. It was fucking huge. A Kerry Class boat.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:49 PM (O5Q3r)

182 Hillary demonstrates how to lose as gracefully as a housecoat flows over wide hips.
Posted by: SarahW

==

NOBODY TOLD DAN RATHER TO SHUT UP !

Posted by: HILLARY!! at April 04, 2018 04:49 PM (OR+bx)

183 Facebook Labels All Breitbart Stories 'Intentionally Misleading' with Wikipedia Pop-Up

Do we know any vegan yoga freaks that have a beef with Facebook?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:49 PM (r9UYA)

184 I lost all respect for HW Bush when I saw him on NASA-TV doing a photo op with astronauts and crew on the space station. After about thirty seconds Bush dismissed the astronauts and literally left them floating in space and turned away to go hobnob with the much more important people - the NASA Administrator. Rocket monkeys weren't worth his time.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 04, 2018 04:49 PM (roQNm)

185 Same, then I got purged ... and end up here
Posted by: Jean

I was purged before the great purge at LGF. I think I was here for the bush TNG memo.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 04:49 PM (G0qhR)

186 >>He didn't want to fly at night by instruments. The wife insisted that they take her sister along. She was late. He got badgered into flying in conditions he wasn't trained for.

That's sad.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (W+vEI)

187 No he was just a House Rep and then UN Ambassador in 72 or so . CIA in 1976.
=====

Thanks. HW was a politico, so like any other Cong kid, they really can't be near action. Too dangerous for anyone around them.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (MIKMs)

188 *pours a bottle of MD20/20 out for Buckhead*

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (cB1y7)

189 Hillary demonstrates the proper way to descend a staircase....

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (UUnqW)

190 I think so too. Ace and Charles used to link each other. I caught wind of Ace o' Spades right around the time of the Flahing Word Document Gif.
Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2018 04:39 PM (q177U)

Yep. It was kind of fun watching the marriage fall apart.

The divorce was finalized with the Van Jones appointment, IIRC. Ace was dragging Nosjohns corpse around he arena behind his chariot, IIRC.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (CPk08)

191 Man, I'm feeling a little bit inadequate, having come over in the HotGas purge instead.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (CMbMd)

192 That youtube shooter looks like she should have been-

singing lead during the 80s in a female version of DEVO.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2018 04:51 PM (9q7Dl)

193 Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 04, 2018 04:49 PM (roQNm)

Are we pretending ISS crew are heroes now?

This isn't the Gemini days.

Posted by: Sjg at April 04, 2018 04:51 PM (gDSJf)

194
Is that Brian Williams' grandpa?

He's his own grandpa.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2018 04:51 PM (IqV8l)

195 192 That youtube shooter looks like she should have been-

singing lead during the 80s in a female version of DEVO.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2018 04:51 PM (9q7Dl)

Jocko Homo?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (NWiLs)

196
There are those who came here when it was still the "new comment section" and those that came after.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (lKyWE)

197 Don't know if anyone else saw that Nasim the YouTube shooter used a S&W 9 mm handgun, and FBI stats show women are less than 4% of perpetrators

Posted by: Skip Cats won it all at April 04, 2018 04:40 PM

* Pencils in another checkmark in column labeled: *

[X] That's a man baby!

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (LOgQ4)

198 Man, I'm feeling a little bit inadequate, having come over in the HotGas purge instead.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 04, 2018 04:50 PM (CMbMd)

*high five* (thought I was not purged, I left in solidarity...)

Posted by: runner at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (OR+bx)

199 I've got to go along with old Dan on this one...

Do I believe GW Bush got into the ANG through his connections? Yes, of course. Just as I would have done in the same situation. Nothing wrong with it. He ended up in a more dangerous position than if had gone in the Navy (like Kerry) or taken any number of Army specialties.

Do I believe he was AWOL for a year? Sure. At that time, we had hundreds of pilots who were short on their time left. Supposedly, they were to keep up on their flight hours, but we didn't have the planes in the ANG. There was really nothing for these guys to do on their one weekend a month, so they would have people cover and sign them in and out. No big deal.

Rather's problem is that he thought this was going to be a bombshell against Bush and he needed to fabricate documents to run with it. Of course Rather didn't do it, but it's a good bet Mapes either coordinated it or knew the documents were fakes from the beginning.

The whole thing was a big nothing.

Posted by: Jwest at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (/roJx)

200 /though

Posted by: runner at April 04, 2018 04:53 PM (OR+bx)

201 Monika Lewinsky's Little Blue Book of Laundry Tips....

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 04:53 PM (UUnqW)

202 He didn't want to fly at night by instruments. The wife insisted that they take her sister along. She was late. He got badgered into flying in conditions he wasn't trained for.

That's sad.
Posted by: Lizzy

The only law the Kennedy clan couldn't break with impunity, what is the law of gravity.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 04:53 PM (G0qhR)

203 I'm sure that old bastard Dan Rather will continue to be a pestilence much like Jimmy Carter. Some stains just won't come out.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 04, 2018 04:54 PM (l9m7l)

204 -
--

That youtube shooter looks like she should have been-

singing lead during the 80s in a female version of DEVO.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2018 04:51 PM

---------------------

I was thinking Cirque du Soleil sideshow freak. Do they have those?

Posted by: irright at April 04, 2018 04:54 PM (pMGkg)

205
That Trump and the pron star thing sure faded fast. Events overtake fast these days.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2018 04:55 PM (r+sAi)

206 Migrants at U.S.-Mexico border say Trump's tough talk will not deter them

MISSION, Texas (Reuters) - On Tuesday, the same day that U.S. President Donald Trump announced his intention to deploy military to help patrol the U.S.-Mexico border, Edwin Valdez and four other Central American migrants were walking through dense brush at a south Texas wildlife reserve, hoping to escape notice.

The men had illegally crossed into the United States that morning, guided by a smuggler who had since abandoned them. Now they were lost and uncertain how to proceed.

-----
You know what's tough? Napalm, .223, and hungry German Shepherd's, that's what.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 04:55 PM (r9UYA)

207 The only law the Kennedy clan couldn't break with impunity, what is the law of gravity.

they had trouble with Archimedes too.

Posted by: Mary Jo at April 04, 2018 04:55 PM (cB1y7)

208 192 That youtube shooter looks like she should have been-

singing lead during the 80s in a female version of DEVO.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2018 04:51 PM (9q7Dl)

Are we not men? No, we are, uh,...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at April 04, 2018 04:55 PM (RD7QR)

209 Guy Mohawk, that bomb was a dud.

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (UUnqW)

210
I came over when Charles banned Ace and Ace rightfully bitched. I respect an honorable slap across the chin of a suddenly left-leaning 'tard.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (LOgQ4)

211 I contributed to Donald Trump's rise...in popularity. I demand to be compensated !!

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (OR+bx)

212 The only law the Kennedy clan couldn't break with impunity, what is the law of gravity.

The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

213 212 The only law the Kennedy clan couldn't break with impunity, what is the law of gravity.

The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...
Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

Women

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (NWiLs)

214 So Trump has ordered the National Guard to the border. I wish he would put the active duty there and establish a DMZ about five miles inside Mexico

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (czkHE)

215 I had a very rich golf buddy attorney ( had one client. A much richer guy) who had lived next to Rather in Austin. He would screw with Rather every time he saw him. By screw with him I mean he would call him an untalented asshole and if he tried to reply he would tell him to shut his fucking mouth . I don't think he liked Rather.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 04, 2018 04:57 PM (QGpIE)

216 212 The only law the Kennedy clan couldn't break with impunity, what is the law of gravity.

The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...
Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

Women

Alcohol and Ambien....

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 04:57 PM (UUnqW)

217 The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

Women.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:57 PM (7UW64)

218 -
--
The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM

-----------------

You forgot bullets.

Posted by: JF and RF at April 04, 2018 04:57 PM (pMGkg)

219 Ah,now everything is back to normal all 3 Facebook "trending" stories are about Trump.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (LiyEm)

220 The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...
Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

Women
Posted by: Insomniac

or stay away until sure I stopped moving...

Posted by: Mary Jo at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (cB1y7)

221 212 The only law the Kennedy clan couldn't break with impunity, what is the law of gravity.

The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...
Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

Women.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (NWiLs)

222 Same, then I got purged ... and end up here
Posted by: Jean

I was purged before the great purge at LGF. I think I was here for the bush TNG memo.
Posted by: rickb223

I was personally purged early ... but I was here at Closing Velocity and Flipping Aces (IIRC) back then. Then the other places sorts of faded

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (MS0+a)

223 that hot gas purge was epic; but that's how Ace got some stellar cobs. oh, and me, of course

Posted by: runner at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (OR+bx)

224 "and I certainly would not have used the documents in question."

He would have forged some better ones.

Posted by: Chris M at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (eAZVt)

225
So Trump has ordered the National Guard to the border. I wish he would put the active duty there and establish a DMZ about five miles inside Mexico

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (czkHE)

I guess there is a law that prohibits active duty military from engaging in domestic law enforcement activities

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (lKyWE)

226 224 "and I certainly would not have used the documents in question."

He would have forged some better ones.

Posted by: Chris M at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (eAZVt)

How hard was it to find a typewriter? Honestly. Amateurs.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (7UW64)

227 There are those who came here when it was still the "new comment section" and those that came after.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (lKyWE)
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Wasn't it "new comment thingy?"

Posted by: bluebell at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (oMtOd)

228 Michelle Obama Tells You Why America is the Greatest Country in History

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (ROV4u)

229 I left both LGF and HotAir before the Great Purges, as it was pretty clear what was happening.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (NWiLs)

230 I'd rather not.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (wPiJc)

231 Juan Williams is the Cathy Areu of The Five.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (IqV8l)

232 I cannot imagine that posse comitus or whatever it is would prohibit the US military from enforcing border security. That does not seem to me to be civilian law enforcement.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (G8hDY)

233 It was new comment thingy for years iirc....

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (LiyEm)

234 flawless male logic, if we are being threatened by foreign invasion facilitated by a foreign government, it's not a domestic matter anymore. posse comitatus isn't a thing.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (cB1y7)

235 Migrants at U.S.-Mexico border say Trump's tough talk will not deter them

MISSION, Texas (Reuters) - On Tuesday, the same day that U.S. President Donald Trump announced his intention to deploy military to help patrol the U.S.-Mexico border, Edwin Valdez and four other Central American migrants were walking through dense brush at a south Texas wildlife reserve, hoping to escape notice.

The men had illegally crossed into the United States that morning, guided by a smuggler who had since abandoned them. Now they were lost and uncertain how to proceed.

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You know what's tough? Napalm, .223, and hungry German Shepherd's, that's what.
Posted by: Under Fire

So, landmines

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (MS0+a)

236 That illumined, oversized, gilt-edged Bible on the book stand behind Ol' Dan is an especially sanctimonious touch in case you didn't get the message.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (EKvBl)

237 >>I'd rather not.

You'd rather not what? Use your words.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (/tuJf)

238 Posted by: Jwest at April 04, 2018 04:52 PM (/roJx)

Except Bush denies it and there has been no evidence to support those allegations.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (QGpIE)

239 225
National security not domestic law enforcement but the Hawaiian judge will have something to say about it.

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (czkHE)

240 >>228 Michelle Obama Tells You Why America is the Greatest Country in History

She also explains about having passionate sex with your husband.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (r9UYA)

241
Wasn't it "new comment thingy?"

Posted by: bluebell at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (oMtOd)

You are correct. I couldn't remember the last word.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (lKyWE)

242 228 Michelle Obama Is Why America is the Greatest Country in History
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 04, 2018 04:59 PM (ROV4u)

FIFY

Posted by: The Left at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (MMa93)

243
I guess there is a law that prohibits active duty military from engaging in domestic law enforcement activities

Pussy Comitatus

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (IqV8l)

244 Nood

Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (O5Q3r)

245 I'd like to congratulate Dan on making his comeback from blowing hobos under the overpass on US Route 59 in Wharton. Courage, Dan!

Posted by: Fritz at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (bJ0w+)

246 240
>>228 Michelle Obama Tells You Why America is the Greatest Country in History

She also explains about having passionate sex with your husband.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 04, 2018 05:01 PM (r9UYA)
And how to dress elegantly on a budget, a large one that is.

Posted by: IC at April 04, 2018 05:02 PM (a0IVu)

247

EM JABUTICABA FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 04, 2018 05:02 PM (mPeei)

248 That Trump and the pron star thing sure faded fast. Events overtake fast these days.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2018 04:55 PM (r+sAi)
..........

Interest was sagging.

Posted by: wth at April 04, 2018 05:02 PM (HgMAr)

249 There's a difference between coming to ace and coming to the comments. When I was first pointed here I was told "whatever you do, don't read the comments".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2018 05:02 PM (fuK7c)

250 I don't think any of the married 'ettes had to worry about their husbands having a fling on the side with Bird Of Prey Commander M'Chel.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 04, 2018 05:03 PM (cB1y7)

251 When I was first pointed here I was told "whatever you do, don't read the comments".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2018 05:02 PM (fuK7c)
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I figured that out on my own. Yowza.

Posted by: bluebell at April 04, 2018 05:03 PM (oMtOd)

252 Of course the Civil War has been the cause of a lot of this mess. Posse Comitatus Act was passed to keep Federal troops from screwing with the Southern States during Reconstruction.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 04, 2018 05:03 PM (QGpIE)

253 141 No way, it's like watching someone parachute without a parachute.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2018 04:25 PM (wB8Tg)

Is that a Captain America reference?

maybe it's like the art of fighting without fighting. which i will demonstrate on that island over there; hop into this boat.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 04, 2018 05:03 PM (sGtp+)

254 The Kennedy's should stay away from anything that moves. Boats, cars, planes, skis...
Posted by: tu3031 at April 04, 2018 04:56 PM (O5Q3r)

It really is amazing how many Kennedy's died in various plane crashes.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 04, 2018 05:04 PM (7uYFy)

255
IIRC, after Chuck banned Ace, Ace was like, "Why don't you tell me like a man why I got banned?"

I think Chuck had sort of out-sourced the bannings at that time to JWF. Supreme cuck.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 04, 2018 05:04 PM (LOgQ4)

256 That Persian chick is cray cray but having lived there in high school years (before the fall) - those women could have turned Alexander.

Posted by: rammajamma at April 04, 2018 05:05 PM (oAlzZ)

257 You know what's tough? Napalm, .223, and hungry German Shepherd's, that's what.
Posted by: Under Fire

So, landmines
Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2018 05:00 PM (MS0+a)

Two words. Bees.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 04, 2018 05:05 PM (Dp6qK)

258 Flopping Aces, not Flipping Aces - didn't realize they were still around

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2018 05:06 PM (MS0+a)

259 Michelle Obama Tells You Why America is the Greatest Country in History

She also explains about having passionate sex with your husband.

Posted by: Under Fire

Who did she use?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2018 05:06 PM (G0qhR)

260 Does anyone know who played Ace in the movie?

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 05:06 PM (UUnqW)

261 Ah,now everything is back to normal all 3 Facebook "trending" stories are about Trump.
Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2018 04:58 PM (LiyEm)

As his poll numbers rise above 50%.
They'll never learn.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 04, 2018 05:07 PM (7uYFy)

262 That Trump and the pron star thing sure faded fast. Events overtake fast these days.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2018 04:55 PM (r+sAi)
..........

Yeah, but they got the ratings bonaaza they were looking for and sold a lot of advertising. And isn't that what it's all about?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 04, 2018 05:08 PM (7uYFy)

263 Hmm, the Migrant Caravan has abandoned plans to invade en masse. Looks like they are going to split up, and it's every man for himself. There's a link on Drudge.

Posted by: runningrn at April 04, 2018 05:13 PM (UUnqW)

264 So, is there any proof one way or another that Bush was AWOL for a year? The political influence claim seems impossible to prove, but there should be records on whether Bush was on duty when he was supposed to be there.

Posted by: David Hogg's angry little face at April 04, 2018 05:19 PM (YrfxG)

265 Now bear with me... but I totally enjoyed Rather's interview of Kid Rock. It's on the interwebs.

But yeah, he's a schmuck. Although without Rathergate, I'd never heard of blogs. Started with LGF, Powerline, Wizbang, AoSHQ, and Insta-dude because of the 60 Mins memo story.

Still read AoS and Insty every day.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at April 04, 2018 05:23 PM (MCbul)

266 I do hope I live long enough to witness Dan Rather's glorious death.

The fucking liar tried to throw a presidential election. He should've been swinging from a post a long time ago.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 04, 2018 05:31 PM (jWe5r)

267 true lefties continue to cry victim and blame others. Yea, Dan, you are true.

Posted by: Saudaukar soldier at April 04, 2018 05:31 PM (Wa5hI)

268 "but there should be records on whether Bush was on duty when he was supposed to be there."

There are records. He was in Alabama serving his ANG time instead of Texas. It was a swap.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 04, 2018 05:33 PM (jWe5r)

269 "Lucy Ramirez could not be reached for comment."

Posted by: Born Free at April 04, 2018 05:36 PM (Ljpqw)

270 Thanks, Bea Arthur's um *clears throat* Dick.

Posted by: David Hogg's angry little face at April 04, 2018 05:37 PM (YrfxG)

271 Here's a pretty decent piece (back when they were on this side of sanity) from National Review. It's detailed and explains how only stupid people could come away with Dan Rather's position.

https://tinyurl.com/ya43zqy5

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 04, 2018 05:42 PM (jWe5r)

272 I remember looking at a collection of image files sourced through Dan Rather somehow, that purported to be from GWB's TANG files. They were printed from a word processor file, not typed on a Selectric, like they woulda been, if they were real. This was sometime around '02, maybe?
To hide the origin of the docs, they were photo copied and re-copied about 5 generations worth in an attempt to make them look like old carbons.
This is where the "fake but accurate" thing started.
Or something. I have not listened to Dan since.

Posted by: Burger Chef at April 04, 2018 05:52 PM (RuIsu)

273 Burger Chef:

That was Charles Johnson at LGF who typed the TANG memo on a default Word processor. He overlayed the two images and thus created the movable gif.

That was in September, 2004 and ended any doubts. Well, any doubts to those not criminally insane.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at April 04, 2018 05:56 PM (jWe5r)

274 It was like visiting a mental institution listening to Rather (and CNN) explain why Sinclair's promise to report honestly is just like Hitler.

It is no different than "Democracy Dies in Darkness", "Fair and Balanced", "Truth Matters More Now Than Ever" or "Facts First: This is an Apple".

As someone asked "Does Dan Rather even know he's Dan Rather?"

Courage.

Posted by: Kenneth at April 04, 2018 05:57 PM (kUSzu)

275 i have a bad photocopy of very rare Guttenburg Bible. They say it looks like it was printed from fresh out of the box MS Word with all default settings.

But no one can find the original Guttenburg Bible so it cannot be proven a forgery.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 04, 2018 06:03 PM (Eu5eZ)

276 In that photo of Dan Rather, his hands are positioned as though he's playing with a ouija board.

Posted by: m at April 04, 2018 06:14 PM (U6XUk)

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