Thread before the Gardening Thread: Musings on Migration from a Hungarian [KT]

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How well do you know Hungarian

Earlier this month, a German human rights activist admitted that Muslim refugees have no intention of adopting our values. Said it out loud.

Writing in The Brussels Journal, George Handlery (a Hungarian educated in the USA, now living in Switzerland) weighs in on migration into Europe as a more general topic. The whole piece is worth reading, but here are a few highlights. Okay, so the English is slightly awkward sometimes. How is your Hungarian?:

Let us begin with the problem's origins and magnitude. From there we go to meeting this modern version of the "migration of peoples" that had toppled Greco-Roman civilization. This hesitantly made analogy is anathema in influential circles: They insist upon problem solving within their ideology's confines. Thus, the Old World is as helpless to cope, as was the Roman Empire before 476.

Opposition to migration is growing in Europe:

A recent example comes from Hungary. (Like her neighbors, in 500 years they have not managed to integrate their resistant Gypsies. Unless, of course, renaming them "Roma" passes as a solution.) After calling the EU as solid as "Swiss cheese", the government sent an inquiry to its citizens to discover what they want.

The preamble: "There are those according to whom, Brussels' policy on immigration and terrorism has failed and that this demands new approaches. Are you in agreement with the statements below? "

A shortened sample of some of the questions: "Would you support it if, contrary to Brussels' permissive policy, the government introduces more restrictive regulations?"

"Do you agree that after the least possible delay, illegal border crossers need to be repatriated?"

As a side note, a Gypsy family has been hanging out periodically at a McDonalds not far from us, begging, in the last couple of months. My mother had a Gypsy family living across the street from her a few years ago. Their habits were . . . distinctive. Have you ever met a Gypsy in America? Back to the final recommendation in Handlery's post:

There are some very simple ways of stopping this. Ship everyone straight back where they came from. No passport holder of ANY country that refuses to take back their citizens will be permitted to enter Europe for any reason.. That may well be too draconian for the delicate stomachs of our ruling elite, so go about it in a more gentle way. Since every country that sends these hordes also receives substantial aid from most EU countries continue with the aid but deduct the cost their illegal citizens occur, be that housing, welfare, health care or education, tote it all up and consider it aid. Those countries will be slamming shut their border so fast you'll be able to hear the slam in Europe..

Think that would work? Might it be adapted in some way to the USA?

Here's a famous, partially-assimilated European Gypsy, at least a fantasy Gypsy.

Django Reinhardt was a Gypsy. He seemed to assimilate pretty well.

Have a great weekend.

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1 whee!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:22 AM (oVJmc)

2 Ha

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:22 AM (89T5c)

3 I'll get them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:23 AM (89T5c)

4 Looking at the new sidebar thing about the shooting, it seems when the scatology hit the oscillating unit everyone except Broward County Sheriff's Department deputies did their utmost for the kids.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 11:24 AM (bxLgY)

5 What about Gypsy Rose Lee?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:24 AM (oVJmc)

6 Ooh,and I read the dang content. Rookie move.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (5O7DN)

7 Looking at the new sidebar thing about the shooting, it seems when the
scatology hit the oscillating unit everyone except Broward County
Sheriff's Department deputies did their utmost for the kids.


Broward = Shithole

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (oVJmc)

8 Opposition to migration is growing in Europe:

Well, that certainly is promising news.

Posted by: The Band on the Titanic at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (Tyii7)

9 I was hoping for a discussion of the Golden Bull.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 11:26 AM (2K6fY)

10 10th

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (uw8GV)

11 Hungary is nice. Planning an anniversary trip to Budapest coming up...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (5O7DN)

12 Hey, this is a fellow moron, Ace put it in sidebar. We have to support our own.

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (Yu4ah)

13 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-43174862

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (Yu4ah)

14 I peeped the sidebar link which went to Brian Kilmeade roasting that asshole Bill Kristol. He's turned into such a dickhead or maybe he always ways.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 11:28 AM (uw8GV)

15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.

Muslims have - the Caliphate.

Is it any surprise the people running the EU want to bring in more Muslims?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (Z8FFX)

16 The gypsies in the Houston area were mostly into roofing / home repair scams with senior citizens. They have for the most part moved on as they are apt to do.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

17 Meanwhile in Germany, Frau Merkel is still trying to form a government. Five months after elections that saw many Germans revolt and vote for the AfD party.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 11:30 AM (bxLgY)

18 Damn read it.

Posted by: Shitstorm at February 24, 2018 11:30 AM (70cRb)

19 My visit to Hungary and Austria was all too brief.
I would love to go back. Money - wise, it's not too bad, but I know zero Hungarian. Or German.
But I absolutely loved the people, the music, the food.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:31 AM (w7KSn)

20 I thought "gypsy" was unPC? Aren't they "travelers" now?

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:32 AM (O5Q3r)

21 Sleepy Jeff could get a good investigation going into Broward defrauding the federal government for grant money. Think he will?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

22 We were in Austria and Hungary over Christmas and absolutely gorgeous, great food and people. And not many Muslims if any.

Posted by: IC at February 24, 2018 11:33 AM (gcme+)

23 Delta and United announced ties cut with NRA.

CNN is crowing this loudly from their website, and the drumbeat is getting louder.

They are winning this one.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (5OEn4)

24
I thought "gypsy" was unPC? Aren't they "travelers" now?
Posted by: tu3031


The Travelling Romaburys

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (IqV8l)

25 My visit to Hungary and Austria was all too brief.

Especially with that really long plane flight in the middle. Perhaps next time you should pick two countries next to each other. Of course, it helps that one of them speaks English and has bloomin' onions.

Posted by: Barack Obama, chillin' in the hood at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (LAe3v)

26 All through the caravan, I was boinking all the men.

Posted by: Sandra Flook, Gypsy Woman at February 24, 2018 11:35 AM (Tyii7)

27 This hesitantly made analogy is anathema in influential circles
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Hence the influential circles need to go.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 11:35 AM (XQvuQ)

28 We did the Danube cruise, Budapest to Nuremberg.
Fantastic. All of it.
I gained a pound a day.
Took me twice as long to shed it.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:36 AM (w7KSn)

29 They are winning this one.





Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (5OEn4)

This week.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (Dbv1R)

30 16 The gypsies in the Houston area were mostly into roofing / home repair scams with senior citizens. They have for the most part moved on as they are apt to do.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

Yep. Driveway pavers a couple of years ago around here, I suspect it's near about time for them to show up again.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (EcEWt)

31 Back when I was a kid, a band of gypsies would come into town every spring for about a week. The town mothers would not let their kids roam any farther than the immediate neighbors house. The gypsies were not nice people.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (Fs5vw)

32 Sleepy Jeff could get a good investigation going into Broward defrauding the federal government for grant money. Think he will?
***
Is that going to help him with whatever the deep state is blackmailing him over?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 11:38 AM (Z8FFX)

33 I saw Stephane Grappelli live once. Lucky me. I think he was in his 80s.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:38 AM (sdi6R)

34 Esmeralda was hot though.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (EcEWt)

35 The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)

36 Take it, Cher....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOSZwEwl_1Q

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (O5Q3r)

37 Yep. Driveway pavers a couple of years ago around here, I suspect it's near about time for them to show up again.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (EcEWt)

Seems to me the way to deal with those conmen would be to burn their trucks to the ground. No truck, no con.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (Dbv1R)

38 Delta and United announced ties cut with NRA.



CNN is crowing this loudly from their website, and the drumbeat is getting louder.



They are winning this one.
---
Eh, I don't need to fly unpatriotic airlines.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (XQvuQ)

39 They are winning this one.


Well, we'd better just pack it in and call it a day.

Posted by: Defenders of Freedom at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (Tyii7)

40 I peeped the sidebar link which went to Brian Kilmeade roasting that asshole Bill Kristol. He's turned into such a dickhead or maybe he always ways.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 11:28 AM (uw8GV)



Now that Trump's flushing these so-called conservatives out of the brush,

I suspect that most of them like Bill Kristol were always liberals but didn't have the ability or mad skillz to make it in the Libtard Big Time MSM,

so they became Pet Conservatives for liberal outlets.

They could be ineffective and ineffectual mouthpieces for ineffective Republican/conservative initiatives and yet,

still attend all those dishy Washington/New York parties.

Trump blew up all that by actually wanting to do the right thing by Americans and the Middle Class.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 11:41 AM (9q7Dl)

41 My high school had kids from damn near every European ethnic group - Italians, Germans, Greeks, Macedonians (Jeebus dont confuse those two), Spanish, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Serbian, Slavs, Romanian and a few Im sure Ive forgotten. And it was glorious - no real trouble and the food and drink and celebrations we were exposed to!! Plenty of non-English speaking Yai yais and Papas but all working toward being a productive American.

Wow. I really miss it.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 11:41 AM (tr2D7)

42 How well do you know Hungarian?

I looked at the first question and closed the tab.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:42 AM (sdi6R)

43 They are whining this one.

NRA members also have options when it comes to spending their money.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 24, 2018 11:42 AM (2NqXo)

44 My grandfather graduated NYU a very long time ago, and before he began his career as a teacher, traveled to Hungary and lived there for almost two years as a single man, to experience a different culture.

He'd had Latin in school and had learned German. In Hungary, he gained fluency in the language, and his Latin and German was no help at all, because Hungarian is derived from something else entirely.

Gramps was an avid photographer, and a chemist, so did all his own developing and printing. I have a box of his glass negatives from when he was in Europe. The scenes are quote pastoral.

He subscribed to two newspapers his whole life, one German, the other Hungarian, just to keep up with the languages.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:42 AM (5OEn4)

45
How well do you know Hungarian?
---
Well, I know I'm having lunch in about an hour.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 11:43 AM (XQvuQ)

46 23 Delta and United announced ties cut with NRA.

CNN is crowing this loudly from their website, and the drumbeat is getting louder.

They are winning this one.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (5OEn4)

Hand wringing :

[X] Noted

[ ] Not Noted

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:43 AM (EcEWt)

47 28 We did the Danube cruise, Budapest to Nuremberg.
Fantastic. All of it.
I gained a pound a day.
Took me twice as long to shed it.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:36 AM (w7KSn)

Who did you cruise with? We are planning for one, They look fantastic, and I like that you don't have to unpack.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (dKiJG)

48 35 The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)


THIS!!

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (Fs5vw)

49 How well do you know Hungarian?

I'd like to get to know that first one better.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (sdi6R)

50 41 My high school had kids from damn near every European ethnic group - Italians, Germans, Greeks, Macedonians (Jeebus dont confuse those two), Spanish, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Serbian, Slavs, Romanian and a few Im sure Ive forgotten. And it was glorious - no real trouble and the food and drink and celebrations we were exposed to!! Plenty of non-English speaking Yai yais and Papas but all working toward being a productive American.

Wow. I really miss it.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 11:41 AM (tr2D7)
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But it would be described today as an "all white" monoculture -- not diverse at all.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (qJtVm)

51 I'm so sick and tired of the politics of shopping. Honestly I wish companies would just lower their prices instead of donating to this or that organization so I don't have to keep track of who's donating to Planned Barrenhood and other crap that I don't want to support. And I HATE that SJW's can still intimidate companies/politicians with their slimy accustations.

Posted by: Iris at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (kdgv3)

52 My headmaster was Hungarian-a concert pianist. He was part of the 1956 revolution, and loathed Communists. Our school was a classical European preparatory school, and his influence in the evils of Communism was pervasive.

Sadly, after he retired, the Board brought in multi culti global types, and though the school is now in a ritzy neighborhood (during my time it wasn't) with bells and whistles for the bells and whistles, I don't think the education is as rock solid. They haven't had a National Merit Scholar in many years, and there were six in my graduating class. Anecdotal, but I think telling in the pedagogy.

Posted by: moki at February 24, 2018 11:45 AM (V+V48)

53 he NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.





Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)





THIS!!

They've probably made made more in new memberships and renewals in the last week then this will ever cost them.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (O5Q3r)

54 IIRC there's a town in South Carolina that's nothing but Gypsy's.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w+Jhj)

55 "Who did you cruise with? "

Avalon. On the Panorama.
Luxurious, to say the least.
We got a deal because I was a guest lecturer. Half off.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w7KSn)

56 Sleepy Jeff could get a good investigation going into Broward defrauding the federal government for grant money. Think he will?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles
=========================


Sessions could drive a stake through the heart of Dem voting/political corruption in Broward county.
But no.

Posted by: Willard at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (eSAWM)

57 The pics of Trudeau in India are hilarious. I can't even think of it in terms of "what a stupid liberal", it's just escapist comedy. Although he seems to have a nice family and it's a shame he dragged them into it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

58 He'd had Latin in school and had learned German. In Hungary, he gained
fluency in the language, and his Latin and German was no help at all,
because Hungarian is derived from something else entirely.

So it's like Austria?

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at February 24, 2018 11:47 AM (O5Q3r)

59 "He was part of the 1956 revolution, and loathed Communists."

That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:49 AM (w7KSn)

60 Jordan Petersen had an interesting (as usual) observation from Clinical Psychology in one of his videos.

It seems there is a very strong correlation with Conservative values, and areas that have diseases being imported from outside the area.

That strong borders, and defending your own culture becomes dominant thoughts when that outsider, could literally kill you just from his presence.

Note, Diseases that we had wiped out in the US, are back... we are committing cultural suicide by NOT defending our own culture... and celebrating the very reason everyone wants to come here in the first place.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:52 AM (NgKpN)

61 Gypsy woman told my mother before I was born, I got a boy-child coming. Gonna be a son of a gun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (xJa6I)

62 It's really sad to see collegial Jeffie Sessionzzz get all this hate. It seemed pretty obvious to me that decades in the Senate (and thus DC) is probably enough to get you into the "My Friends" mindset, so I never expected any promised swamp draining to affect the "important" people.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (gwPgz)

63 *looks around for Heidi*
O:O
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0

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (70cRb)

64 55 "Who did you cruise with? "

Avalon. On the Panorama.
Luxurious, to say the least.
We got a deal because I was a guest lecturer. Half off.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w7KSn)

We are looking into doing a Family one, I think it's Viking. Our son is only 5 but it we are looking at booking 2 years out, so he will be seven and maybe old enough to learn and enjoy it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (dKiJG)

65 @15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.
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Arguably, the Roman Empire was this. The Romans would conquer another group of people, and then the members of the newly conquered group would have the opportunity to become Roman citizens.

Where it all started to fall apart was when the barbarians started letting themselves across the border, invariably cut a deal that involved themselves becoming nominal Roman subjects, and then didn't integrate (which was fine with the Romans at the time, since they saw the barbarians as buffers against the other nomadic groups - particularly that one led by some guy named Attila...).

Since then?

No.

And I would argue that Islam has also not had a successful multi-ethnic empire. Yes, they've had empires that ruled over multiple ethnicities. But so did the Austrians. Adherents of Islam - at least in the Middle East - appear to be very conscious of the ethnicity of others, particularly if the one being conscious is Arab.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (TadoT)

66 Holy crap. I took the Hungarian test and got 92% "Are you a native Hungarian?".

I only got two wrong. How I managed that I'll never know.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (sdi6R)

67 I'm hoping this is a multiple choice exam.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (ks6bw)

68 Since I'll be at work for the Pet Thread

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydx9a2ab

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (bxLgY)

69 That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:49 AM (w7KSn)


Some thing I experienced in Kiev, Ukraine. Much of is still very Soviet, but most (at the time I visited anyway) were extremely anti Russian.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (Fs5vw)

70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

71 39 They are winning this one.


Well, we'd better just pack it in and call it a day.
Posted by: Defenders of Freedom at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (Tyii7)

Yeah... going to be an early night...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (NgKpN)

72 I'll be honest, I don't know many Hungarians. Steven Brust, the author, comes closest for me.

The Hungarian strippers I've met were nice, not as dusky as Romanians.

I'm a big fan of Hungarian or American goulash. And I'm a fan of any nation with the self respect to tell the EU to Fuck off.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (xJa6I)

73 Just don't ask me to pronounce any of those words.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (sdi6R)

74 My parents honeymoooned in Austria & I'm pretty sure they pissed off a Gypsy & she put a curse on them. It would explain a lot about our lives.

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (ANIFC)

75 Without Hungarians, where would we get our paprika?

On the NRA topic - I don't know if these companies actually contribute to the NRA or just offer discounts of some sort to members. I'd agree that on a net cash basis, the NRA has probably not suffered significantly (if at all) from these companies showing their corporate asses.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:56 AM (Sfs6o)

76 15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.

Muslims have - the Caliphate.

Is it any surprise the people running the EU want to bring in more Muslims?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (Z8FFX)

Well Tito managed, but it wasn't pretty and it didn't out-live him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:56 AM (xJa6I)

77 IIRC there's a town in South Carolina that's nothing but Gypsy's.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w+Jhj)

There's a large group in the Aiken area.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (0+nbW)

78 70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

Hey Bob.

Mine has the Glock 19 grip.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

79 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'


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In the county, the savage county the lion sleeps tonight
In the county, the savage county the lion sleeps tonight
A runaway a runaway a runaway a runaway
Ah eeeeeeeeeee ee ee a ee bang bang kaboom
Ah eeeeeeeeeee ee ee a ee bang bang kaboom

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

80 In Budapest we stayed at the Gellert.
The hotel itself is in a sort of state of delightful decay, could use some renovation (I imagine it would cost a fortune) but what a history, going back to Roman times where it was a thermal bath. It still has a huge indoor heated pool, and we swam in it for an hour.
It was like going back to 1950.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (w7KSn)

81 CNN, United, etc are probably doing more for NRAs membership and funding than any offer for a potential 5% discount ever did.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (ks6bw)

82 Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (TadoT)

Hmmm... actually... what about Britain in the Empire period?

They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...

It wasn't until they became wimps about their own culture... that it fell apart IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (NgKpN)

83 A few in Europe starting to wake up? About ten years too late.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (roQNm)

84 78 70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

Hey Bob.

Mine has the Glock 19 grip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

Thanks. Thats the smaller but takes all mags I believe. that the one i want. I'd rather hold it in a store but looks like online is the only way to find one here in Phoenix. Great deals to.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (70cRb)

85 79 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

/sheds the skin he is hiding under...

Pulls his gun....

Posted by: The Wolf in Sheeps Clothing... at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (NgKpN)

86 I want to see Budapest in the worst way.

I'd also love to do one of those Danube cruises. Maybe in a couple years if I can get a good job again and can convince the wife. She'd rather see Australia, apparently.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (xJa6I)

87 It's a shame about the Christmas Markets now, all the videos I have watched all comment about how the entrances all have truck barriers and Police with machine guns walking around.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (dKiJG)

88 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

Not Hungarian, but the same ethos.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (aS7LQ)

89 84 78 70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

Hey Bob.

Mine has the Glock 19 grip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

Thanks. Thats the smaller but takes all mags I believe. that the one i want. I'd rather hold it in a store but looks like online is the only way to find one here in Phoenix. Great deals to.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (70cRb)

I've used Classic Firearms a few times. They're pretty reliable.

I hope you get yours soon, I want to hear your opinion on it.

I think I'll take my Sub-2000 to the range today, now that I'm thinking about it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (xJa6I)

90
The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM



I'm not an NRA member, but thank you Mr. Peebles for answering the question I was going to ask - how exactly were all these corporations "supporting" the NRA? And the answer is discounts given to NRA members? That's it? Whoop-de-doo.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (EzdLW)

91 Django Reinhardt nearly lost his life when the caravan he and his wife lived in caught fire when he knocked over a candle on his way to bed. His wife made artificial flowers from extremely flammable celluloid. They caught fire, engulfing the wagon in flames almost immediately. Reinhardt dragged himself and his wife through the fire to safety, but suffered extensive burns on his left hand and other areas. He received first- and second-degree burns over half his body. His right leg was paralyzed, and the fourth and fifth fingers of his left hand were badly burned. Doctors believed that he would never play guitar again, and they intended to amputate one of his legs. Reinhardt refused to have the surgery and left the hospital after a short time; he was able to walk within a year with the aid of a cane.

Two of his fingers remained paralyzed. By sheer will, he taught himself to overcome his now permanent handicap by using only his thumb and two fingers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (+y/Ru)

92 @59 That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.
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I've got two board games that deal with the struggle against Communism in Eastern Europe. The first is called '1989' (it's a sort of sequel to Twilight Struggle, if anyone here has played that game). It focuses on 1989, which is the year that the pro-Soviet governments collapsed in EVERY single one of the Eastern European nations (it was also the year of the Tianenmen Square demonstrations, which also get a nod). It's a two player game - democrats versus communists (the thing is that while the governments are going to fall, the replacement government might be dominated by the communists-in-all-but-name).

The other game is called "Days of Ire", and is about the 1956 Hungarian Uprising. I haven't played this one yet, but it's a game for up to four people - either a cooperative game, or a multiple Hungarian players versus Comrade Zhukov. Note, though, that the game ends with the historical agreement between the Hungarian demonstrators and the Soviets... that was then promptly broken just a few days later when the Soviets invaded.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:03 PM (TadoT)

93 I've used Classic Firearms a few times. They're pretty reliable.

I hope you get yours soon, I want to hear your opinion on it.

I think I'll take my Sub-2000 to the range today, now that I'm thinking about it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (xJa6I)

I think today is the day. Have fun.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 12:04 PM (70cRb)

94 If you define a Caliphate as someone who has managed to control Cairo, Damascus, and Baghdad; such entities oft times do not outlast the guy who conquered them.

Whereas Western and Chinese empires have managed to last for quite awhile in most cases. Alexander the Great being one that didn't, though the three successor states did survive for quite awhile.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:04 PM (bxLgY)

95 Gypsy experience involves a group of gypsies that used to "shop" at the Christian bookstore managed by my husband. One of the gypsies became a Christian, so she talked her fellow gypsies into not shoplifting at the store.

They still shoplifted at another Christian bookstore in a nearby town, owned by the same family. They didn't like the manager there.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:04 PM (g5YYQ)

96 A few in Europe starting to wake up? About ten years too late.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse

Just my stupid opinion.

It's too late. And it was too late 10 years ago. I can remember thinking that in 2008, the last time I was in Paris (on business).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (S6Pax)

97 @75 I've been an NRA life member for over 25 years, and aside from one car rental deal, I either never heard of or never cared to look up any of those other so-called "corporate allegiances." I'm pretty sure that the "sponsoring" companies seek them out, not the NRA. So that tells you something.

United? Delta? You must be joking. Does anyone not on the company's travel account ever board their aircraft?

The Chubb Group declaraion may be a thing, though. NRA-affiliated insurance for "private" club ranges is kind of a big deal.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (H5rtT)

98
They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...
It wasn't until they became wimps about their own culture... that it fell apart IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (NgKpN)


Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)

99 I don't know if these companies actually contribute to the NRA or just offer discounts of some sort to members.

It doesn't look like they actually contribute anything. They benefited from the association by attracting NRA members with the discount, and the NRA attracted members with being able to offer discounts as a benefit. I think it won't hurt the NRA at all to do away with all member discount programs. That's not what their core membership is about, and I think this demonstrates remarkably well why the NRA exists to begin with. The actions of these companies work pretty well as a de facto membership drive. Hell, I'm considering becoming a lifetime member just to spite the SJW teens.

Posted by: no good deed at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (eIQHF)

100 The NRA does not get its political power fro $ contributions which they use to contribute to politicians which support the second amendment. They get their power from the raw number of members.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (mpXpK)

101 It's fascinating watching the (D)s trying to explain why it is totes okay for the police to cower in the parking lot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (ks6bw)

102 @82 Hmmm... actually... what about Britain in the Empire period?

They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...
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Forgot about them. I think you have a point.

But... "COLONIALISM!!1!", they shrieked in horror!

So the elite looking for examples as described in the original post would probably ignore them.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:07 PM (TadoT)

103 Magyar (Hungarian) is a Uralic language. Say, where is Miklos?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 12:08 PM (2K6fY)

104 Syria sneezed on Europe. Merkel licked it up instead of wiping it off, and now she wants to French kiss Hungary.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (/qEW2)

105 Got 75% on the Hungarian quiz.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (/A+Cl)

106 We were warned about Gypsies by our Guide/Translator she was excellent she gave my wife something that would make a crunching sound if someone was reaching in to her purse. Also restaurants they would send kids to beg for money, the waiter usually kicked them out, because when one kid was getting money another would try and steal.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (dKiJG)

107 That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:49 AM (w7KSn)


Only shoplifting half the stores you enter is pretty Christian.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (Fs5vw)

108 Well, that was easy.

Just renewed my NRA membership.


And Enterprise, and Delta can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 12:10 PM (EyPfd)

109 Atilla himself tried to raid Rome and almost married a Roman princess offered to him as a gesture of peace.
That is a hell of a story.
Before I cruised the Danube, I had a mental picture of it as being somewhat placid. That couldn't be further from the truth. The Danube was a force of nature separating the Roman empire from the barbarians for centuries. Only a fool would a attempt a crossing. The swift currents would have you on your way to the Black Sea in no time. Floods would consume entire towns.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:10 PM (w7KSn)

110
@15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.

The Roman Catholic Church is on line two and would like to have a word.
Some found it more glorious than others, as things worked out.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 12:10 PM (H5rtT)

111 >>>Magyar (Hungarian) is a Uralic language. Say, where is Miklos?

Where's publius? He's had some odd problems with gypsies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 12:12 PM (/qEW2)

112 I don't think the education is as rock solid. They
haven't had a National Merit Scholar in many years, and there were six
in my graduating class. Anecdotal, but I think telling in the pedagogy. Posted by: moki at February 24, 2018 11:45 AM (V+V4
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My experience as well. Eldest kidlet had international students and at least four with 'perfect' ACT scores. 10% of elementary school teachers had PhDs. By the time youngest kidlet came around, they were full-bore 'social' nonsense and had none. Just a confluence of time and opportunity, I guess. After all, the soft bigotry is more pervasive than we think.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 12:12 PM (MIKMs)

113 Is it gauche to put corn in the goulash?

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (bJ0w+)

114 Oh Bibliophiles:

Georgian and Victorian Board Games: The Liman Collection as listed on Amazon: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yacj8t72

What some of the boards look like:
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/liman-collection-jeux-de-societe-vintage/

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (bxLgY)

115 Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)


The post WW II United Nations concept of the "noble savage" didn't help!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (gwPgz)

116 @109 You are sure right. Traditional historians in yon olden times dated the "fall" of Roman imperial power to the year in which several whole tribes crossed the Danube into Roman territory. It was right around 500, and everyone around thought it quite a feat and a very big deal.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (H5rtT)

117 It's just like that old gypsy woman said!

Posted by: Cheryl Tunt at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (NWiLs)

118 88 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

Not Hungarian, but the same ethos.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (aS7LQ)


Funny how that article says they are subject to discrimination, without mentioning the notorious scams they run which make normal people very wary of them.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:14 PM (sdi6R)

119 113 Is it gauche to put corn in the goulash?
Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (bJ0w+)

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Just don't pair it with Grenache

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 24, 2018 12:14 PM (9SkN+)

120 Does anyone here have specific experience with Gun Owners of America (GOA)? They seem to have a fairly active lobbying component. I send them money because they have 'gun' in their name.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

121 "Is it gauche to put corn in the goulash? "


Nope.

One of the recognized ways to put corn in your turds.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (EyPfd)

122 57 The pics of Trudeau in India are hilarious. I can't even think of it in terms of "what a stupid liberal", it's just escapist comedy. Although he seems to have a nice family and it's a shame he dragged them into it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

He's such a twat. Jumping off the plane into a one-man Bollywood number isn't endearing, it's puerile and offensive. His wife is definitely a 1 on the ScoggScale though. Apparently soybois can get good-looking wimminz if they have power and connections.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (NWiLs)

123 101 It's fascinating watching the (D)s trying to explain why it is totes okay for the police to cower in the parking lot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (ks6bw)


Well, otherwise they would be shooting black people for no reason.

/s

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (sdi6R)

124 They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...
It wasn't until they became wimps about their own culture... that it fell apart IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (NgKpN)


Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)

They had already started to shed parts of the empire by WW1...

WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

125 'We Szekeleys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights, for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland and the fighting spirit which Thor and Wodin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the were-wolves themselves had come. Here, too, when they came, they fought the Huns, whose warlike fury had swept the earth like a living flame, till the dying peoples held that in their veins ran the blood of those old witches, who, expelled from Scythia had mated with the devils in the desert. Fools, fools! What devil or what witch was ever so great as Attila, whose blood is in these veins? Is it a wonder that we were a conquering race; that we were proud; that when the Magyar, the Lombard, the Avar, the Bulgar, or the Turk poured his thousands on our frontiers, we drove them back? Is it strange that when Arpad and his legions swept through the Hungarian fatherland, he found us here when he reached the frontier? And when the Hungarian flood swept eastward, the Szekeleys were claimed as kindred by the victorious Magyars, and to us for centuries was trusted the guarding of the frontier of Turkey-land; ay and more than that, endless duty of the frontier guard, for, as the Turks say, "water sleeps, and enemy is sleepless". Who more gladly than we throughout the Four Nations received the "bloody sword", or at its warlike call flocked quicker to the standard of the King? When was redeemed that great shame of my nation, the shame of Cassova, when the flags of the Wallach and the Magyar went down beneath the Crescent, who was it but one of my own race who as Voivode crossed the Danube and beat the Turk on his own ground? This was a Dracula indeed! Woe was it that his own unworthy brother, when he had fallen, sold his people to the Turk and brought the shame of slavery upon them! . . . Again, when, after the battle of Mohacs, we threw off the Hungarian yoke, we of the Dracula blood were amongst their leaders, for our spirit would not brook that we were not free. Ah, young sir, the Szekeleys - and the Dracula as their heart's blood, their brains and their swords - can boast a record that mushroom growths like the Hapsburgs and the Romanoffs can never reach. The warlike days are over. Blood is too precious a thing in these days of dishonourable peace; and the glories of the great races are as a tale that is told.'

Count Dracula

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (+y/Ru)

126 120 Does anyone here have specific experience with Gun Owners of America (GOA)? They seem to have a fairly active lobbying component. I send them money because they have 'gun' in their name.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

Not directly, but I hear they're very hardcore, as is JPFO.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

127 The NRA does not get its political power fro $ contributions which they use to contribute to politicians which support the second amendment. They get their power from the raw number of members.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
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Radio said Unions contributed more in one year than NRA in the last ten. It gave the numbers but I'm not certain. But NRA was in the middling millions and Unions, for one year, was 1.2 billion.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:18 PM (eSAWM)

128 115 Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)

The post WW II United Nations concept of the "noble savage" didn't help!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (gwPgz)

that and Wilson's League of Nations....

sooooooooo many things wrong with the US stem from the period from about 1900 to 1920...

Just look at all the Constitutional changes they made during those years...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:19 PM (NgKpN)

129 If you define a Caliphate as someone who has managed to control Cairo, Damascus, and Baghdad; such entities oft times do not outlast the guy who conquered them.

***
I've referring to the Rashiduns, Umayyads, Abbasids, and Ottomans. Islam had a lot of trouble with a way to produce stable succession process. The Ottomans probably did the best by having the successor exterminate his siblings on succession...but that is pretty horrible and when it didn't work...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 12:19 PM (Z8FFX)

130 104 Syria sneezed on Europe. Merkel licked it up instead of wiping it off, and now she wants to French kiss Hungary.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (/qEW2)

...vividly said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (xJa6I)

131 Just look at all the Constitutional changes they made during those years...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:19 PM (NgKpN)


Nothing quite like "Progress" with an agenda!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (gwPgz)

132 Learned Clapton's studio version of "Tears in Heaven" on guitar this week and practicing now. Nice piece for fingerstyle, and am playing it on a new Yamaha.

The old Martin D-18 needed some serious work and has been at the luthier's shop for six weeks but is now finished, and outfitted with a blingy new tortoiseshell pickguard.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (5OEn4)

133 If Soviet Justice Wankers like Justine Trudeau ran the British Empire in the 1800s, in India Hindu wives would still be burned alive at their husbands' funerals today.

And they would be clapping and barking "Sati for you! And sati for you!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (bxLgY)

134 Only shoplifting half the stores you enter is pretty Christian.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (Fs5vw)

Only one of them became a Christian. They allowed her to stop engaging in the illegal activities, but it wasn't easy for her. Lots of pressure from within the group.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (g5YYQ)

135 And they would be clapping and barking "Sati for you! And sati for you!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (bxLgY)

I love a good curried sati.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 12:22 PM (NWiLs)

136 I read somewhere that a huge portion of humanity has DNA in them from Attila. Something like a third.
Could be nonsense, but maybe not.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:23 PM (w7KSn)

137 WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)
************

Fighting the Colonies and the French at the same time?

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (eSAWM)

138 If you want a good laugh watch Comrade Detective on Amazon Video.

A Romanian communist Cop protects the State from capitalist scum trying to Sell Blue Jeans, Soda Pop, Western Music etc. lots of good jokes about How everything is the greatest made by communists. Jokes like When a criminal gets injured and is in the Hospital " he'll live we have the greatest Health Care in the World" It's a must watch and very funny.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (dKiJG)

139 Lots of pressure from within the group.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (g5YYQ)


BUT, were they turning their lives around?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (gwPgz)

140 136 I read somewhere that a huge portion of humanity has DNA in them from Attila. Something like a third.
Could be nonsense, but maybe not.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:23 PM (w7KSn)


I thought that was Genghis Khan.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (sdi6R)

141 28 We did the Danube cruise, Budapest to Nuremberg.
Fantastic. All of it.
I gained a pound a day.
Took me twice as long to shed it.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2

How did you get to Nürnberg on the Donau, it's nowhere near it

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (losIw)

142 Broward County tactical deputies

https://youtu.be/rh5G6RUgjiM?t=60

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 12:25 PM (FhXTo)

143 6 I read somewhere that a huge portion of humanity has DNA in them from Attila. Something like a third.
Could be nonsense, but maybe not.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:23 PM (w7KSn)


Yes! Yes! That explains my attraction to the Mongolian/Chinese buffet I like.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

144 They are welcome in Brattleboro if no body else wants these poor and destitute Muslims created by Trump policies !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 24, 2018 12:26 PM (hqQ+Q)

145 "How did you get to Nurnberg on the Donau, it's nowhere near it"

Mad King Ludwig built a canal.
It was mostly folly.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:27 PM (w7KSn)

146
They had already started to shed parts of the empire by WW1...
WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)


The decline of empire had started but I was mainly refering to the two generations of young men who grew up with pride in the empire that were decimated in the conflict

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:27 PM (lKyWE)

147 because when one kid was getting money another would try and steal.

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Well, duhhh. They diversify. All the great financiers do that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:27 PM (+y/Ru)

148 I know the NRA won't get hurt by Delta and United and Hertz and others going all political, but who does get hurt by all this CNN-lead action is us, the members.

We have been othered. Like skinhead nazis.

Like those who want to fly confederate flags.

It will hurt those NRA members that work for those companies, and many other companies whose HR departments are all SJW. People will get othered, will not gain promotions, maybe will be forced out.

We'll be in the shadows. Our pickup trucks will get keyed, spat upon.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 12:28 PM (5OEn4)

149 I thought that was Genghis Khan.
Posted by: rickl


It's supposedly Genghis, but that's been disproven. The "Genghis gene" is actually one of his ancestors:
nature.com/articles/s41431-017-0012-3

Earlier waves of Turkic / Mongol attacks had already left lots of that DNA around Central Asia. When Temujin started #winning, the first peoples he conquered were peoples who were already his [distant] cousins. He recruited the survivors (easy enough if they're already relatives) and sent them off to do more conquering.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (6FqZa)

150 75Without Hungarians, where would we get our paprika?



On the NRA topic - I don't know if these companies actually
contribute to the NRA or just offer discounts of some sort to members.
I'd agree that on a net cash basis, the NRA has probably not suffered
significantly (if at all) from these companies showing their corporate
asses. ----

Agreed, but the left is winning the perception game. Major American companies are tersely abandoning millions of Americans with impunity. The left is organized, we aren't, it is that simple. We are getting bulldozed.

If conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)

151 Yes! Yes! That explains my attraction to the Mongolian/Chinese buffet I like.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

lol. My test for funnies on Ace is if I read it to my husband. I read this one to him and he laughed.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (g5YYQ)

152 They are welcome in Brattleboro if no body else wants these poor and destitute Muslims created by Trump policies !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien
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I figured that you were pretty hot to trot but never thought you were that needy.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (eSAWM)

153 137 WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)
************

Fighting the Colonies and the French at the same time?
Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (eSAWM)

I actually think we killed the British Empire...

That we won the Revolution destroyed their confidence... destroyed the Idea that God would never allow the British Empire to fail....

It took 100 more years for all the dominoes to fall... but once we showed we could free ourselves from the Empire... others saw it as possible.. including the British people themselves...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:30 PM (NgKpN)

154

Hotscakes in Hootersville!

Posted by: Lisa Douglas, Hungarian at February 24, 2018 12:30 PM (IqV8l)

155 Ethnic Hungarians are not Gypsies (there are a lot of Gypsies in Hungary, but they're considered a foreign people there, as they are elsewhere in Europe).

Romanians are not Gypsies either. The PC term for Gypsy is "Roma", which is a totally different thing from "Romanian".

Hungarians (Magyars) are descended from tribes from extreme Eastern Europe (the Ural Mountains region) that invaded what is now Hungary around the 9th to 10th Century.

Romanians are Slavs, like Russians or Poles. Where they differ is that Romania was conquered and thoroughly assimilated by Rome (hence the name) and accordingly they speak a Romance language related to Latin and Spanish rather than a Slavic language like their Slav neighbors. Genetically, though, they're Slavs.

The Romani (Gypsies) are descended from people who were kicked out of Northern India around 500 AD. Their closest genetic relatives are the "Untouchable" (Dalit) caste in India.


Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 12:31 PM (BPTve)

156 Earlier waves of Turkic / Mongol attacks had already left lots of that DNA around Central Asia. When Temujin started #winning, the first peoples he conquered were peoples who were already his [distant] cousins. He recruited the survivors (easy enough if they're already relatives) and sent them off to do more conquering.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (6FqZa)

Well Damn Dude...

Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???

Of course we're going to invade and steal your Womenz....

Posted by: Atilla the Honey Hunter at February 24, 2018 12:32 PM (NgKpN)

157 137
WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....



Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

************



Fighting the Colonies and the French at the same time?

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (eSAWM)

Actually fighting WWI caused the biggest setback in the British Empire. They lost a large portion of their male population and those that did return had become severely disenchanted with the class system then prevalent in GB. It also virtually bankrupted the British Empire.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

158 *pulls from shelf a book*

Mr. Prosser's mouth opened and closed a couple of times while his mind was for a moment was filled with inexplicable but terribly attractive visions of Arthur Dent's house being consumed with fire and Arthur himself running screaming from the blazing ruin with at least three hefty spears protruding from his back.

Khan it is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:32 PM (bxLgY)

159 Agreed, but the left is winning the perception game. Major American companies are tersely abandoning millions of Americans with impunity. The left is organized, we aren't, it is that simple. We are getting bulldozed.

If conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)


Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM (Fs5vw)

160 Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???
Of course we're going to invade and steal your Womenz....
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The ongoing and ultimate 'Irish' problem. /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (MIKMs)

161
Agreed, but the left is winning the perception game. Major American companies are tersely abandoning millions of Americans with impunity. The left is organized, we aren't, it is that simple. We are getting bulldozed.

If conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.
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Can't argue with this! To be brutally honest. I stopped listening or reading anything by the MSM a number of years ago, so I can only imagine the tidal wave of crap they are generating.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (Sfs6o)

162 "Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???"

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mongolian+women

They look okay to me.


Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (BPTve)

163 Fly me to the moon
And let me play among the stars
Let me see what Spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars...

#TBT ace post (Marcie)
I think.



Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (tnOuI)

164 I'm very disappointed in all of you for failing to mention Hungary's best assets. Boobs.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (g4lFK)

165 I got a hunski that says that the Broward Cowards would have no problem going after law abiding citizens and shoot their dogs.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 24, 2018 12:35 PM (3BFzK)

166 Somehow managed to insert my comments into the middle of your post - sorry quint!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:35 PM (Sfs6o)

167 Hey, quint. Weekends are happy fun time here. We get enough of this during the week.

Say it with me. Happy fun time.

Relax. Have a beer. Heck it's clos to noon somewhere.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 24, 2018 12:36 PM (IMacf)

168 Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???

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High cheek bones. Is Warren actually a Mongolian and not an Indian?

I bet she would have been if it helped her get a $350K/yr one hour a day work job at Harvard.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (3BFzK)

169 Is Delta in on the NRA bs? That would surprise me since delta is so pro Military.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (hZ+us)

170 I just joined the NRA for the first time with a 5 year membership. I've never owned and gun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if I'll let the leftist scum try to take away my right to own a gun if I were to choose to do so.

For those who aren't NRA members yet, I would encourage you to think about joining as well.

Posted by: mpthompson at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (b0njJ)

171 * reads above *

Gypsies. * spits *
I been telling you people, but ya just didn't listen.
Oh, and Mongol and central asian chicks are teh hawt.
That is all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:38 PM (fA1SL)

172 Is the gypsy question serious? That is a good way to solicit a lot of hateful comments.

I ran a business in an area in the US that had many. People who do not know them romanticize about their culture, but it is very much a raider culture of taking whatever you can from the host. This is deeply ingrained. They feel shame if they do not manage to steal or cheat outsiders in some way, no matter how small.

I think JJ linked an article about Danish culture, and trust. This is the opposite of that. where they are active, either you know to avoid them, their presence, scams, fake businesses, please for charity, etc. Or you become a victim.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 12:40 PM (LWu6U)

173 Were about to book the whole familys flights for
our summer vacation. Delta and united are now off the list.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2018 12:40 PM (hZ+us)

174 I'm already an NRA life member, but I'm looking to join the GOA today. Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)

175 Posted by: mpthompson at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (b0njJ)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (Sfs6o)

176
Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM


Trump won the election but 3 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. Kind of a mixed bag.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

177 I tend to apply Occams Razor a lot of the idiocy we see. Most of it can be blamed on stupidity and nativity, not evil conspiracies. But sometimes, like with immigration, evil conspiracy seem more likely than the easy explanation. It is almost reaching that point in the Parkland shooting. So many bad decisions/incompetence almost make it seem it was allowed to happen. (Security cameras with a 20 minute time delay? Is that even possible?) The MSM going into immediate hyper-drive attacking guns and NRA to new levels of hysteria and the obviously planned student crusade adds to the sense of suspicion. This reminds me a of the supposed Charlottesville KKK riots, which were a nothing-burger until promoted to a crises by the MSM and Dems.

Really hate wearing a tinfoil hat but sometime it seems less crazy than the BS official story.

Posted by: Ripley at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (MxEKc)

178 " No passport holder of ANY country that refuses to take back their citizens will be permitted to enter Europe for any reason.. That may well be too draconian for the delicate stomachs of our ruling elite, so go about it in a more gentle way."

That would be a great solution, or one step in the right direction. But the EU bureaucrats are the draconian ones, and their "delicate" stomachs feast on destruction of the masses and their strong cultural identities.

The multi-culti diversity religion is a ruse ... they intend to break country heritage since they want all the EU under the (unelected bureaucratic) EU flag. The Eastern Bloc has enough history of Soviet dictators, so they are the ones most strongly rejecting Brussel's "refugee" quota demands.

Countries are their people and their heritage, but the corporate/banker conglomerates have printed enough funny money paper that they feel they own the world, which they may ... On fake Paper. They now move toward diaspora, moving the third world in, and rooting out traditional America via by PC mandates of diversity and race quotas.

Soros and the goons and political hacks have long been planning to bring us under their thumb. Americanism will unite us again.

Europe was peaceful after WW2 since the countries mostly had their sovereign identities and borders. Japan is praised for their polite society, but they are all Japanese. Scandinavian countries were admired but also, 95% "demographically pure" till the recent destructive Muslim invasion. (watch Paul Joseph Watson videos to see how that is going)

The West Won, but has to regroup and cling to their regional religion(s) and guns and roses, not cling to false globalist propaganda. Flooding us with third world peoples is a subversive effort to destroy us, not make us stronger.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (bT8Z4)

179 The last patent for the MPEG-2 video codec expired, making it possible to distribute software and sell hardware without paying license fees for MPEG-2 content.
MPEG-2 is still used in over-the-air broadcasts in most of the world, and is popular in live TV production for low processing overhead.
The final patent in the United States which covered the MPEG-2 video codec, #7,334,248, expired on February 13, 2018.

Posted by: SMOD at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (e8kgV)

180 Does anyone here have specific experience with Gun Owners of America (GOA)? They seem to have a fairly active lobbying component. I send them money because they have 'gun' in their name.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

Why not both?

Seems like NRA is under attack right now, so people that have gripes with them ought to bury the hatchet for a bit and support them.

I've been an NRA Life Member for 41 years now, and will continue to support them over and above that, as things allow.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (aS7LQ)

181 You guys ever see the footage from the 1956 summer Olympics when Hungary and the Soviets met in a water polo match? This being after the invasion of Hungary?

Holy crap! Guys are being pulled injured out of the pool left and right. Used to see this on ABC, especially if they were doing the summer Olympics.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (mIJBI)

182 f conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.


Good idea. Ill do this tomorrow. I actually have a delta credit card- time to cut it up.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (hZ+us)

183 I just joined the NRA for the first time with a 5 year membership. I've never owned and gun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if I'll let the leftist scum try to take away my right to own a gun if I were to choose to do so.

For those who aren't NRA members yet, I would encourage you to think about joining as well.
Posted by: mpthompson

That's exactly how I got started!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (aS7LQ)

184 174 I'm already an NRA life member, but I'm looking to join the GOA today. Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)
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My experience has been they do not. They never call and when I do get a letter from them (not infrequently) I just toss it until I'm ready to give them money again. Just sent them $100.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)

185 @155 Romanians are Slavs, like Russians or Poles.
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They might be part Slav, but they appear to also have a mix of other groups, such as the Dacians who lived in that region during the Roman Empire (and were partially conquered by Trajan). One thing that I've heard is that the Russians traditionally consider themselves the protectors of all the Slavic nations (and apparently include Hungary in that mix), but the Romanians doesn't fall under that protective umbrella.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:44 PM (VAt5v)

186 Remind me never ever to live in Broward County.

Seriously, when's the last time there was a non-terrible news story out of there?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 24, 2018 12:46 PM (jnLXM)

187 155 & 185. They consider themselves Dacians, but I think of them as a sorta cadet branch of Slav master race. They got the boozing and insanity down pat; we're still working on purifying their language. Few more generations.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:46 PM (fA1SL)

188 Spent a week in Hungary for work. It was awesome!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (0tfLf)

189 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (aS7LQ)
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Hi Jinx (hijinks!) I've been sending GOA $$ for years as well as being an NRA Life Member. Can't overemphasize the need to support these groups.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (Sfs6o)

190 I love this blog becuz I can get a world history lessnon from time to time.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (IYHxL)

191 Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM

Trump won the election but 3 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. Kind of a mixed bag.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)


30 to 19 (1 tie). Which is the more relevant stat, rather than just counting up the Californicators and acting like that's the only number that matters.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (Pz4pT)

192 I'm already an NRA life member, ... Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)
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I'm confused.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (eSAWM)

193 As a side note, a Gypsy family has been hanging out periodically at a McDonalds not far from us, begging, in the last couple of months. My mother had a Gypsy family living across the street from her a few years ago. Their habits were . . . distinctive. Have you ever met a Gypsy in America?

I was on an intra-European flight when a Gypsy broke out a Sterno can, fired it up in the aisle, and started making tea. The stewardesses (justifiably) had a cow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (YqDXo)

194 I'll join the NRA when they bundle a foolproof canoe with every membership. Until then, I'm shooting whitewater rapids and I may capsize at any moment.

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (bJ0w+)

195 I just joined the NRA for the first time with a 5 year membership. I've
never owned and gun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if I'll
let the leftist scum try to take away my right to own a gun if I were to
choose to do so.

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Me too. Won't be able to own a gun (my choice), but no more playing with fundamental rights.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 12:49 PM (MIKMs)

196 Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM (Fs5vw)
Which one?

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:49 PM (n13/j)

197 Sen. Cornyn has reportedly come out against Trump's proposal to raise the age limits on gun purchases (or is it ownership?).

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:49 PM (VAt5v)

198 Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (bJ0w+)

Join and maybe you'll never need that canoe.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 12:50 PM (0+nbW)

199 The Romanians are proud of their (distant) Roman roots. I've read in a very old book that they got upset at the old British-English spelling of "Rumania" because they wanted the "Rome" part to stay.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 12:50 PM (ewxPW)

200 " So many bad decisions/incompetence almost make it seem it was allowed to happen. (Security cameras with a 20 minute time delay? Is that even possible?) " Ripley

To me it is clear it was allowed. Could they push Cruz over the edge, fully aware he was "ready to explode"? ... completely within the realm of the "evil empire agents" imo.

He made so many threats it seemed he wanted to be stopped, but was instead encouraged, if not triggered. But those sorts of suggestions get censored in social media, and there is no hard evidence afaik.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:50 PM (bT8Z4)

201 I'm already an NRA life member, but I'm looking to join the GOA today. Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)
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My experience has been they do not. They never call and when I do get a letter from them (not infrequently) I just toss it until I'm ready to give them money again. Just sent them $100.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)


Some places, allegedly reputable organizations to whom I donated once, send me so much mail, I swear they've eaten up the cost of my donation with those mailings alone.

So yeah, no. Some places, I don't donate to more than one time.

I haven't yet decided to join the NRA. I have decided however, a professional association, to whom I have sent quite a bit of money, is sending out mailings talking up their anti-gun stance. So yeah, they're not getting another dime from me.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (Pz4pT)

202 FedEx is not rolling over fast enough.

Igorvolsky
@igorvolsky
Updated action tweet to pressure @fedex to cut its @NRA ties:

Email @FedEx execs
djbronczek@fedex.com
abgraf@fedex.com

Tweet FedEx president @j_bronczek

Tweet FedEx Comms head@RajViews

Call @FedEx
901-369-3600

Sign petition http://gunsdownamerica.org/campaign/tell- …

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)

203 Is Delta in on the NRA bs? That would surprise me since delta is so pro Military.
Posted by: LASue


The two: NRA and pro-military, are not necessarily congruent.

Behold the power of the soviet denunciation tactic. This is the power of the Media to form opinion among part of the population.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (S6Pax)

204 Some of my competitive shooting amigos are on the NRA Board and I can tell you these guys are serious about protecting our rights.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:52 PM (Sfs6o)

205 The Left fears the NRA because they believe Yamamoto's quote of "a rifle behind every blade of grass."

They fear that is truth and thus will stymie their desires for ultimate Nibelung power of Mordor.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:52 PM (bxLgY)

206 gorvolsky
@igorvolsky
What would you guys think about going to local @FedEx stores with signs asking them to break ties with @nra?

Go with your friends, take pics, post them on social and get others to do the same.

We really need to show them that their customers want them to drop the gun lobby!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

207 From the comments it sounds like we are getting pummeled. Why be surprised?

There are many groups Obama organized during and after his Presidency.

Soros has his groups who will jump on any bandwagon that will help their cause.

Clinton's have their groups...more shady.

Then you have the left groups, who keep growing, like weeds.

You have the wealthy celebrities.

Then there are the true believers.


And the right has never organized and I guess we are not going to. Because even after a year of Trump, we still haven't. We have no mechanism to rally the troops and make calls. The left out-organizes us every time. Politics are downstream from culture. So until someone or some group decides to take the reins, this will continue.

I keep thinking the RNC or the conservative media will do so. Or blog owners. Or Steyn and TuCa & media types. Or some Pac. Or grassroots. Some group of leaders. But looks like no.

So I can't get my hair on fire every time. I don't have the resources or abilities to organize a group, so I do what I can individually, but it's not enough. Until we formally organize into groups, or a group, and fight back, expect these situations to continue.

Trump winning is not enough long term. He is erasing Obama's legacy, and someone can erases Trump's.

I'm not being Debbie Downer, I'm being realistic. And I'm resigning myself to facts, bcz I can't keep getting upset and disappointed. And I'm sick of banging the drum in posts about things that need doing. So just sayin...and JMO.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (tnOuI)

208 199. Yep. They're quite proud of their Latin heritage, the Romanians. It does show, too - they combine in roughly equal part the drama and noise of the guineas with the rampaging madness of the Slav master race. Fun people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (fA1SL)

209 Sen. Cornyn has reportedly come out against Trump's proposal to raise the age limits on gun purchases (or is it ownership?).

Posted by: junior
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Cornyn a tell-tale on the mast.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (eSAWM)

210 Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (bT8Z4)

I view most nations as essentially extended families; people in Europe never ask (or never used to, at any rate) each other where they're from: they're from that country, since Adam first felt up Eve, and at some level they're probably all related to some extent.

The US is the exception, by virtue of being a nation of immigrants, the US is more like a club than a family, but the principle still obtains: a nation is a group of people united by language, custom, values, and in most cases, blood.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (YqDXo)

211 How well do you know Hungarian? I got a thumbs up from Chuck Norris. But I thought you were going top show some Hungarian women with "elbows".

Posted by: flukeboy at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (EtEhm)

212 193
I was on an intra-European flight when a Gypsy broke out a Sterno can, fired it up in the aisle, and started making tea. The stewardesses (justifiably) had a cow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (YqDXo)


Sounds like we shouldn't give Gypsies money or matches.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:55 PM (sdi6R)

213 Nood.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 12:55 PM (mIJBI)

214 And I forgot to add...I applaud those on here taking actions. It is a wonderful thing to see.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (tnOuI)

215 So Jay, Romi are on par with those African Muslims who started a cooking fire on that airliner in flight... is that what you are saying?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (bxLgY)

216 Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (tnOuI)

The difference: conservatives tend to individualists, whereas the Reds are, by nature, collectivists. It's much harder to organize the former than the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (YqDXo)

217 But do their boxing gloves have iron weights in them, Palp?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (ewxPW)

218 My wife's family are Hungarian-Austrian Jews. They, IMHO, are the best looking women in the world. We met when we both were married to other people. We were in our early twenties. All four of us were close friends for 6-7 years then we had a falling out. Something about me being an arrogant asshole, which I found strange. We saw each other about 5 years later and we haven't been apart for 30 years.

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (VWsDy)

219 @177 Security cameras with a 20 minute time delay? Is that even possible?
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If the bit about Broward County hiding (ignoring) youth crimes to qualify for Federal grants is true, then it makes a certain amount of sense. After all, if a student commits a serious crime in view of the cameras during the "do not arrest" period, then you want enough time to remove the offending footage from the security tapes before someone has a chance to see it and start asking questions.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (VAt5v)

220 212
Gypsies - the Uzbeks of Europe.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (fA1SL)

221 215 So Jay, Romi are on par with those African Muslims who started a cooking fire on that airliner in flight... is that what you are saying?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (bxLgY)


Yup. It's almost as if some people didn't get the memo about the 21th century. Or the 20th. Or the 19th. Or much of anything after the 7th.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (YqDXo)

222 Just took the Hungarian quiz, got 71%. Not bad, since I don't speak a word of the language.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 24, 2018 12:59 PM (IcT7t)

223 217. You can count on it. They're quite the streetfighters, Romanians:

https://youtu.be/texgeorDu3U

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:00 PM (fA1SL)

224
Stasi, anyone?


They live among us.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:01 PM (wD7F7)

225 Stasi, anyone?


They live among us.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:01 PM (wD7F7)

Her Mom too.

Posted by: (she's got it goin' on) at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (jnLXM)

226 184 My experience has been they do not. They never call and when I do get a letter from them (not infrequently) I just toss it until I'm ready to give them money again. Just sent them $100.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)


Cool, thanks! I went ahead and joined.

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (NL6wI)

227 Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (tnOuI)

The difference: conservatives tend to individualists, whereas the Reds are, by nature, collectivists. It's much harder to organize the former than the latter.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (YqDXo)


Then we will lose. I think it is lack of leadership. No one, or no group, is willing to take up the mantle, while the Left has got groups galore. Heck, ISIS and terrorists have better organizing skills. And CAIR. We are the only ones who can't organize to fIght back. So we can't keep being surprised we are losing. It was sad Bannon went off the rails bcz he may have had the ability, but we have no one else.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (tnOuI)

228 223 217. You can count on it. They're quite the streetfighters, Romanians:

https://youtu.be/texgeorDu3U
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:00 PM (fA1SL)


The one chick has a pretty good throwing arm: good mechanics, velocity, AND accuracy.

The Padres' pitching coach will be in touch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:04 PM (YqDXo)

229 228. Heh. Eastern Europeans rock.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (fA1SL)

230 Gypsies are also notorious in Britain for squatting in temporarily unoccupied houses and then refusing to leave, and apparently under British law are difficult to evict.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (YqDXo)

231 192 I'm confused.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (eSAWM)


I have heard plenty of NRA members complaining of frequent phone solicitations for donations. Aside from the occasional snail mail, they've not bothered me.

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (NL6wI)

232 201
Some places, allegedly reputable organizations to whom I donated once, send me so much mail, I swear they've eaten up the cost of my donation with those mailings alone.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (Pz4pT)


That has been my experience as well. I send a $10 donation to some charity, and they inundate me with mailings forever afterwards that cost far more than my donation. I don't understand how that's supposed to work.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

233 I have heard plenty of NRA members complaining of frequent phone solicitations for donations. Aside from the occasional snail mail, they've not bothered me.
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted)

That has been my experience.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 01:06 PM (aS7LQ)

234 Re the NRA spam/junk mail issue.


Last night in the ONT esteemed Moron Jim (Sunk New Dawn) said to do the following.


Immediately after joining, call the NRA membership phone number. Ask, then ask them to confirm, that they have coded your membership as "No Promotions". He says this is the magic switch that turns off the river of junk.


Just passing on Jim's advice for the discussion.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (ETFzT)

235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)

236 Balkan elbows:

https://youtu.be/AoOXyaPVVgI
https://youtu.be/7Q533RHWKss

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:08 PM (fA1SL)

237 "They might be part Slav, but they appear to also have a mix of other groups, such as the Dacians who lived in that region during the Roman Empire "

Undoubtedly they do. There are few pure races in Europe, no matter what Hitler fantasized about. Hell, most Europeans still have Neanderthal blood in them.

Genetically, Romanians are closely related to Serbs, Croats, and Bulgarians, so if you consider those to be Slavs, Romanians probably should fall in that category as well.

On the other hand, these are Europeans we're talking about. The Serbs and Croats are essentially genetically identical, but may get violent if you try to point that out. Serbs are Orthodox and use Cyrillic, while Croats are Catholic and use the Latin alphabet. Totally different people. Obviously. Even though they look exactly the same and live a virtually identical lifestyle. :-)


Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (BPTve)

238 Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (tnOuI)

Its a question of money too.

Somehow, the Left was able to put funding mechanisms in place, so they have people who make their living, at organizing, OUTSIDE of the DNC itself.

The Right? Doesn't. (outside of groups like the NRA).

There is no counterpoint on the Right, to Organizing for America... or any of those other Progressive SJW groups.

Hell.... look at the Clinton Foundation... which was getting funding from FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (NgKpN)

239 Trump won the election but 3 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. Kind of a mixed bag.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

Only if you hate the concept of the electoral college.
Who cares if she wins Cali and NY by 80%? Well, the dems do because then coastal elitism tells them it's okay to ruin the space between the coasts, but that's a different issue.

Now if a recheck and recount were to be done nationwide I believe that many areas would be like Detroit. They were quickly found to be so corrupted taht the Michigan recount was quickly folded.
Throw in a million or two illegal aliens voting and you have your difference.

What was the point again?

Posted by: Lon Horiuchi at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (z79tQ)

240 If the bit about Broward County hiding (ignoring) youth crimes to qualify for Federal grants is true, then it makes a certain amount of sense. After all, if a student commits a serious crime in view of the cameras during the "do not arrest" period, then you want enough time to remove the offending footage from the security tapes before someone has a chance to see it and start asking questions.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (VAt5v)


I say again: "disparate impact" has got to go. Ring up malefactors, regardless of ethnicity. If every one of those rung up turns out to be a "protected minority," then so be it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:10 PM (YqDXo)

241 235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)



If you're trying to convince me that this whole thing wasn't deliberately ginned up, it's not working.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (sdi6R)

242 Then we will lose. I think it is lack of leadership. No one, or no group, is willing to take up the mantle, while the Left has got groups galore. Heck, ISIS and terrorists have better organizing skills. And CAIR. We are the only ones who can't organize to fIght back. So we can't keep being surprised we are losing. It was sad Bannon went off the rails bcz he may have had the ability, but we have no one else.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (tnOuI)
*****************************************

Don't let the naysayers and defeatists get you down. Cesspools like Broward County invite such events and the media have always been against us.

The collectivists ban together because as individuals they are worthless. True diversity or rugged individualism as we used to call it is our strength.

So, buckle up and say your prayers, it may be a rough ride but we will prevail.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (eSAWM)

243 Orwell wrote about a gypsy he worked with in"Down and Out in Paris and London" in the 1930's.

In the French hotel kitchens, if you were a temp hire they had to pay you a full days wage if you worked the first 4 or so hours for the day. The Magyar, as Orwell called him, worked the first 4 hours then became unruly to the point of having to be fired upon which he got the full 10 hour days pay. He told Orwell it was a scam he worked until he ran out of hotels to work for.

Always on the make......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (EoRCO)

244 From the comments it sounds like we are getting pummeled. Why be surprised?

My bet is gun sales skyrocket this month.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (O5Q3r)

245 "Only if you hate the concept of the electoral college."

Once again the Founders prove to be wiser than any of our modern "elites".

Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (BPTve)

246 237. Well, srpski and hrvatski have a fairly recent grudge - WWII. ustache (and that includes the Bosnians, also largely Slavic) did sorta kinda attempt genocide of the serbs.
Hence, REMOVE KEBAB.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:13 PM (fA1SL)

247 I say again: "disparate impact" has got to go. Ring up malefactors, regardless of ethnicity. If every one of those rung up turns out to be a "protected minority," then so be it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:10 PM (YqDXo)

I don't think you understand.
Equality before the Law is unfair.

Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (z79tQ)

248
re: Winn Dixie going tits up

It's been years, decades maybe, since I've been at a Winn Dixie. I remember the stores being behind-the-times and kinda crummy.

Kroger, at the same time, was bright and modern.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (wD7F7)

249 "Well, srpski and hrvatski have a fairly recent grudge"

Oh, yes. And others going back for centuries.

There's a reason why we have the term "Balkanization".

"Let's see... what would happen if we packed Catholics, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, and Gypsies into a tiny region, with maybe a sprinkling of Protestants for zest?"

Diversity in action.

Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (BPTve)

250 247
I don't think you understand.
Equality before the Law is unfair.
Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (z79tQ)


Equality before the law was invented by white people. Therefore it's racist.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (sdi6R)

251 242 I am no naysayer (not saying you implied that). But if we are winning, let's sprint through the finish line. I worry when major companies always bend to the same side's views, there must be a reason for it.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (n13/j)

252 The collectivists ban together because as individuals they are worthless. True diversity or rugged individualism as we used to call it is our strength.

So, buckle up and say your prayers, it may be a rough ride but we will prevail.
Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (eSAWM)


Another aspect is that while the Left is persistent, it is also brittle. Look at how they lost their shit over the Tea Party, and were so insecure that they began the pathetic "Coffee Party" ("See, we have a 'grassroots' movement too." Not.)

Or how, stung by Rush Limbaugh & Co. they started the execrable (and ill-fated) "Air America" to compete.

Or at any demonstration, they'll list 25 nonexistent organizations - ginned up for this one purpose - as supporting them, each consisting of some permutation and combination of a handful of leftists.

Events such as these lead me to suspect that their support isn't nearly as widespread as they try to convince us, and they know it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (YqDXo)

253 249. It's like someone created an especially sadistic version of Civilization or something. Tito was probably a better man than we know, or worse, simply because he managed to hold that place together as long as he did.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (fA1SL)

254 Gypsy mythology says because a Gypsy stole the third nail that was to have been used to pierce Christ's feet and so eased His suffering, God has given Gypsies dispensation to steal.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM (ewxPW)

255 You know the argument "the US affects the world, therefore the world has the right to vote in US elections"? What about: Germany is affecting Hungary with its immigration policies, therefore Hungary has the right to vote in German elections?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (/qEW2)

256 Another civil rights organization (ALWAYS use this formulation when around the dim and the ignorant, for fun) for anyone looking to push back in their own small way is the Second Amendment Foundation.


They fight the fight where it must be fought, in the mostly collapsed judiciary. They join/lead lawsuits on key issues before state and federal courts.


Justice Thomas the other day said the 2nd is "a disfavored right" before the current SCOTUS. Decorum and all, I'm sure, but this kind of under-statement drives me crazy. I prefer the much more accurate language of Roberts (spit), back before he went off the rails, in his stunned dissent in Hamdan v. Bush (military tribunals) - where he said the court's behavior "threatened the very constitutional system" (quoting from memory).


Can't find expert court-watcher comment on this specific matter, but seems to me that since the 4th's decision on the MD gun law, the inferior courts are in open revolt, and have effectively "over-turned" Heller from below - for now.


So far - and in far wimpier a fashion than I actually expected - SCOTUS has appeared to finally draw the line at *some* of the lawlessness, in their small-ball smack-downs of the 9th on the EO cases. If SCOTUS doesn't move dramatically to restore the law - and even their OWN system wherein they rule the roost - there's really no limit on the damage.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (QDnY+)

257 254. Yes. There was to have been a fourth nail, but a gypsy swiped it.
Of course, they stole THAT story from the Gnostics. Typical.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:21 PM (fA1SL)

258 255 You know the argument "the US affects the world, therefore the world has the right to vote in US elections"?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (/qEW2)


Send them a bill for 105 years' worth of back income taxes first.

Then burn them on voting anyway.

I know. It's a gift.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:22 PM (YqDXo)

259
Gypsy moths?

remember the Gypsy Moth Caterpillar plague of the early '80's?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:23 PM (wD7F7)

260 We tried the Tea Parties to organize the right and got co-opted and abused for the trouble. Meanwhile the left's organizations consume ever more of their time, money and energy to produce more noise and fewer results. Fuck their nonsense. Normal Americans just show up and vote right.

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 01:24 PM (FhXTo)

261 The police video in the sidebar. Heartbreaking. The Ciral Gable cops are the heroes. Screw Broward County.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 24, 2018 01:25 PM (yTbz8)

262 Re: Travelers, that's a name for Irish or Scottish migrant peoples. The older name is "Tinkers," because a lot of them were traveling tinkers or followed other itinerant trades. They started traveling in larger groups after a lot of tenant farmers got thrown off their land in the 1700's and 1800's, and they used to have their own Gaelic dialects.

The Roma have been talked about above. There are four main tribes in the US and UK, but there are more tribes in Europe.

The thing to understand about them is that they have an extensive religious and secular law code, much like kosher law or Indian caste law. But it only applies to Roma. Everybody else, including Roma who decide not to live according to their laws, is fair game. Non-Roma can never really become Roma, either.

Obviously not every Roma person is going to do bad stuff, and some Roma join non-Roma religions in all sincerity. Others are just too smart to mess with people for no reason. But inside the group, they are going to be taught to worry more about proper respect for the campfire than for a non-Roma.

Anyway, the general impression left by their laws and traditions is that everything in the world actually belongs to Roma, or was created for their use. So stealing from you is actually taking back what they have been allowing you to use.

Some non-Roma do manage to get along with Roma - usually by having an 18 Charisma, a high Dexterity, and a good sense of humor. Everybody else is out of luck.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at February 24, 2018 01:25 PM (sF8WE)

263 As my grandmother told me : 'The Lord created gypsies to prove he wasn't picking on just us.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (fA1SL)

264 180 - "Seems like NRA is under attack right now, so people that have gripes
with them ought to bury the hatchet for a bit and support them."

That's kind of how I see it. In this case, for me it is more supporting the spurned members, not the NRA leadership. Other organizations have been better on certain issues many times in the past. And don't forget the state orgs, they can be very effective at enhancing rights. .

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (n13/j)

265 Is anyone tracking the idiotic and despicable corporate lynch mob shouting of the corporations ending their discounts - just so intelligent Americans can avoid giving them business? NRA itself should keep track on their website (though they won't).


Would also be nice if some high profile public figures (senators from safe, gun-nut states) publicly trashed these companies for their despicable lynch mob behavior.


"The disastrously stupid policies and callous incompetence of Broward County law enforcement, and the FBI, and the previous administration's effort to completely destroy the rule of law for school age Americans, enabled evil to act out in Florida.


It is despicable and indefensible for American corporations to join the ignorant lynch mob blaming law-abiding citizens and civil rights organizations for this situation."

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (ETFzT)

266 Or how, stung by Rush Limbaugh & Co. they started the execrable (and ill-fated) "Air America" to compete.


They have the mainstream media doing their bidding, so Air America was no loss.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (tnOuI)

267 Gipsy Moths?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_DH.60_Moth

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (sdi6R)

268 263 As my grandmother told me : 'The Lord created gypsies to prove he wasn't picking on just us.'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (fA1SL)


My impression has been that the gypsies do PLENTY to make themselves unpopular.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:31 PM (YqDXo)

269 imo it is not that the globalists have some grand ambition for world peace and harmony, it is that they are a mafia cabal intending to wipe out any resistance by any means necessary. They had it going gradually but then Obama put the pedal to the floor and Hillary lost ... now the crime syndicates are being revealed right up to FBI/Deep State level ... and they are not surrendering, and the Bildgerbergs are re-positioning, adjusting strategy.

So can we compromise with them, or does the chaos collapse a lot of things? Magic Eight Ball says "ask again later".

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 01:32 PM (bT8Z4)

270 268. Yep. Growing up, gypsy was a favorite slur. There's a reason for that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (fA1SL)

271 And what have I missed? How are "we" "losing" at the moment?


To put it in terms familiar to AOSHQ commenters:


* number of convictions of Clinton cabal/Obama administration senior figures in connection with the Mega-Scandal = 0


* number of new laws abridging 2A rights arising from FL incident = 0


Sticking with this theme - wake me when any new actual laws infringing 2A rights, enacted directly in reaction to FL, are on the books.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (ETFzT)

272 266 Or how, stung by Rush Limbaugh & Co. they started the execrable (and ill-fated) "Air America" to compete.

They have the mainstream media doing their bidding, so Air America was no loss.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (tnOuI)



Yes, but that supports my thesis. If they were more secure, more confident, they'd have just laughed off Rush Limbaugh.

But they didn't. They were stung into trying to emulate him, despite having all of the MSM on their side. That suggests that they are nervous and uncertain about their own support.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (YqDXo)

273 268
My impression has been that the gypsies do PLENTY to make themselves unpopular.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:31 PM (YqDXo)


That's my impression as well. Jews have done plenty to contribute to civilization. Gypsies, not so much.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

274
Who else can't stand the Amish?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:36 PM (wD7F7)

275
Just kidding. They okay.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:36 PM (wD7F7)

276 Some of my competitive shooting amigos are on the
NRA Board and I can tell you these guys are serious about protecting our
rights.
Posted by Weasel

Sort of like the poster "confused" by the GOA/NRA thing, we don't like to air the laundry in front of "civilians." I'll just say, to an outsider, you can't understand some of the things that get said about the NRA unless you have been around the NRA's internal politics for 40 years or so.

There is intense infighting between factions in NRA, and competitive event sponsorship has been on the out-slide for a long time. The political activists consider the competitive shooters to be pests. Inside the "fraternity," newer, showier, funner shoot-em-ups have been promoted at the expense of the traditional shooting sports. Camp Perry became a civil war, and all my sides lost. "My" nationals are now at two places in Indiana.

This goes back at least to the Neal Knox days, and it keeps getting worse. In USAS, the Olympic shooting division that the NRA disowned in the 90's (and, possibly, "with cause"), you'll find some fairly anti-gun characters. You haven't had a gun fight until you've talked with a Brit international shooter who thinks we are crazy for being able to drive armed to the range.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 01:38 PM (H5rtT)

277 Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (QDnY+)

GREAT point about the 2A Foundation. I'm a life member, although I've been too lazy to keep up with their recent activity.

Judges are everything. There's nothing else. That's why we have to keep the senate. McTurtle has his problems, but his shepherding of judges through the process and putting the hold on Garland are critical to keeping our constitution alive.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (6HFDU)

278

Has anybody ever accurately tallied a "fistful of dollars."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:41 PM (wD7F7)

279 Has anybody ever accurately tallied a "fistful of dollars."


It's what you take from one Yojimbo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 01:43 PM (fuK7c)

280 Judges are everything. There's nothing else. That's why we have to keep the senate. McTurtle has his problems, but his shepherding of judges through the process and putting the hold on Garland are critical to keeping our constitution alive.
Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (6HFDU)

I'm not going to say there's no truth to your statement, because it accurately describes the moment. But I will say things are pretty fucked up when the third co-equal branch of government have become pieces on the chessboard of partisan politics.
Nobody is even hiding it anymore, including the judges.

Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)

281 278 - Has anybody ever accurately tallied a "fistful of dollars."


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:41 PM (wD7F7)

I will, for "a few dollars more"

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (n13/j)

282 Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)


See, this is why I shouldn't even try to use socks.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 24, 2018 01:45 PM (z79tQ)

283 wake me

Sorry, Morons still busy lifting Sessions big toe and shaking his shoulder.

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 01:45 PM (FhXTo)

284 And don't forget the state orgs, they can be very effective at enhancing rights. .
Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (n13/j)

Yep, down at the state level is where a lot of the real action is. In a state like Texas, it mostly involves the efforts to loosen gun laws. In commie states, it involves the efforts to fight off the tightening of gun laws.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:46 PM (6HFDU)

285 At the airport
Heading home
Had a great visit
Tired but content

Posted by: Votermom's phone at February 24, 2018 01:47 PM (GYoIh)

286 I'm not going to say there's no truth to your statement, because it accurately describes the moment. But I will say things are pretty fucked up when the third co-equal branch of government have become pieces on the chessboard of partisan politics.
Nobody is even hiding it anymore, including the judges.
Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)

Exactly. It shouldn't be this way, but it is.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:48 PM (6HFDU)

287 I was with my sister-in-law shopping at a Nordstrom outlet in Portland several years ago. A large group of gypsies entered the store. One woman went up to the counter and started complaining very loudly to the clerk. The other clerks joined her trying to deal with this now screaming woman. Meanwhile, the accomplices picked up armfuls of clothing and simply left the store. The screaming woman left also. This whirl of activity was over in a matter of moments.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 01:49 PM (tcwn1)

288 Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (eSAWM)

Naysayers don't get me down, I say my prayers, and thanks for the encouragement. If I were perpetually brought down by the naysayers here I'd sit in the corner and never come out. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 01:50 PM (8+Ozj)

289 Eric Holder sock, you are absolutely right.


That's why I refer to the "collapsed judiciary/constitutional system".


I don't think there's a bit of hyperbole in that formulation, and I'd dare the top constitutional scholars alive to debate the point.


Sure - in MOST areas, the courts are not arbitrary, off the rails, lawless, and chaotic. Areas that affect daily commerce. Imagine the sort of lawlessness and judicial rule we see in things like the 2A, marriage redefinition, or election integrity applied to contract law. The economy would shut down.


THEN - the 90% of the country that doesn't notice or care would suddenly get religion.


Closest we've come is the still-astonishing behavior of the court in not smacking down the looting of Chrysler bond-holders in the 2008 "crisis". I don't know how that turned out - but it was an appropriate introductory flourish for the lawlessness of the Obama years, and a shocking thing that - if extended and continued, would literally derail our economy (no hyperbole).

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:52 PM (ETFzT)

290 286
I'm not going to say there's no truth to your statement, because it
accurately describes the moment. But I will say things are pretty fucked
up when the third co-equal branch of government have become pieces on
the chessboard of partisan politics.

Nobody is even hiding it anymore, including the judges.

Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)



Exactly. It shouldn't be this way, but it is.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:48 PM (6HFDU)

It has been that way since Marbury vs Madison when Adams manufactured the issue to get a central government authority that he wanted during the convention and could not get. Jefferson said the ruling was BS but could do nothing to get rid of it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 01:55 PM (mpXpK)

291 Gypsy mythology says because a Gypsy stole the third nail that was to have been used to pierce Christ's feet and so eased His suffering, God has given Gypsies dispensation to steal.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM (ewxPW)


========

Well, at least they feel the need to come up with a rationalization. The Clintons just think they are God.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 01:56 PM (/qEW2)

292 I think GM was also looted. It was astonishing; nothing was done and mentioned matter of factly.

And then Corzine taking all the segregated funds from that investment house. What did the Dem feds do? Did he even get a reprimand?

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:56 PM (eSAWM)

293 There's an Italian speed skater named Lollibridgida in the event now on the live feed.


Interesting event, don't completely understand it. Long race, "sprint" laps, lots of strategy.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:56 PM (ETFzT)

294 Closest we've come is the still-astonishing behavior of the court in not smacking down the looting of Chrysler bond-holders in the 2008 "crisis". I don't know how that turned out - but it was an appropriate introductory flourish for the lawlessness of the Obama years, and a shocking thing that - if extended and continued, would literally derail our economy (no hyperbole).

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:52 PM (ETFzT)


Fun fact: the bondholder who got hosed the worst was the Michigan State Teachers' Pension Fund, a union that doubtless supported Obama.

You've got to laugh.

(As yet further proof of the left's lack of business/financial acumen (of a piece with "profit to earnings ratio") was their lack of sympathy for the lootees because they were hedge funds. Apparently they did not realize that hedge funds aren't investing their own money, but rather that of the limited partners (in this case, a union pension fund). Sure, it hurt the hedge fund a bit too, since they get only a percentage of the carry but also a fraction of the profits, but the people who really got hosed were the limited partners.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:57 PM (YqDXo)

295 For me?
Okay.
I'll take you,,, and you,,, and you darlin',,, annnnd you.
Forgive me if I've left anyone out.
It's been a long day.

Posted by: teej at February 24, 2018 01:59 PM (9razJ)

296 241 235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


If you're trying to convince me that this whole thing wasn't deliberately ginned up, it's not working.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (sdi6R)

That's highly disturbing.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

297 Is anyone tracking the idiotic and despicable corporate lynch mob
shouting of the corporations ending their discounts - just so
intelligent Americans can avoid giving them business? NRA itself should
keep track on their website (though they won't).





Would also be nice if some high profile public figures (senators
from safe, gun-nut states) publicly trashed these companies for their
despicable lynch mob behavior.
---
Less customers means less revenue.

Someone with the means ought to make a buck by shorting their stocks.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 02:02 PM (XQvuQ)

298 What we need now is Black Rifle Rent-A-Car......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 02:06 PM (EoRCO)

299 296
That's highly disturbing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:00 PM (NWiLs)


Somebody needs to save that video, because I have a feeling it's going to disappear from YouTube.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:06 PM (sdi6R)

300 Gypsy mythology says because a Gypsy stole the third nail that was to
have been used to pierce Christ's feet and so eased His suffering, God
has given Gypsies dispensation to steal.
---
It sure was fortunate that there wasn't another nail to be found in all of Jerusalem.

Also, I'm not sure that makes any sense as a matter of physics since more weight was on the other nails.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (XQvuQ)

301 Right after the shooting before any facts had come out, Israel was at a press conference saying if you notice a neighbor with a bag from a gun range when they usually only have grocery bags you should call the popo.

Very stable genius he is not.

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (SkuXa)

302 Any Walking Dead fans interested in this Sunday's director's cut season 8 episode 8 and episode 9 premiere since the writers decided to kill off Carl, unexpectedly?

I saw a recent brief clip of Andrew Lincoln speaking and his British accent is 70% percent gone because he is spent half of his life the last 8-9 years living in Georgia.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 02:11 PM (g4lFK)

303 299 296
That's highly disturbing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

Somebody needs to save that video, because I have a feeling it's going to disappear from YouTube.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:06 PM (sdi6R)

Speaking of YouTube, they are officially going after Alternitive News via the 3 strikes and your out. Murdoch met with Silicon Valley a few months ago and gave the go ahead. They are going after Infiwars, which I know the Horde is not a fan of but damn this is flat out totalitarian type shit. Oh. and in a 2015 interview with Matt Drudge on Infowars with Alex Jones, he predicted the big 5-6 corporations that own close to 95% all tv and print media and entertainment would start cracking down on wrongthink, independent journalists, and alt media.

They are going after the conservative and right and the Left are so dumb they believe that they won't be next.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 02:17 PM (g4lFK)

304 We'll be in the shadows. Our pickup trucks will get keyed, spat upon.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 12:28 PM (5OEn4)

Then you kill them. Get a grip, FFS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 02:19 PM (Dbv1R)

305 241 235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


I'm sure Nezar Hamze is going to be vociferous in tracking down Muslim terrorists.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

306 I make and distribute Hungarian pornography.

Posted by: Elliot's boyfriend in that one episode of Scrubs at February 24, 2018 02:25 PM (N9jDm)

307 Hey Weasel, got my 2018 NRA ballot for directors in front of me. The only name I recognize is Grover Norquist. Who else should I vote against. heh. I can't vote for more than 25 candidates. Any thoughts?

Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (RZWC0)

308 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


========

That was despicable. It's not his place to determine who should be kept out of jail - that's the judge's job. His is to enforce the law, not arranging for them to avoid sentencing. And the whole video had an eerie vibe - as if Israel were visiting a Middle Eastern shithole to give his talk.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 02:30 PM (/qEW2)

309 Heard on way home on radio a German skater used music from Schindler's List, many have their panties all in a knot. Its a musical score for a hero of the human race, I doubt the skater used it for the love of extermination camps.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 02:32 PM (aC6Sd)

310 I am no naysayer (not saying you implied that). But
if we are winning, let's sprint through the finish line. I worry when
major companies always bend to the same side's views, there must be a
reason for it.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (n13/j)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (Dbv1R)

311 When the dotcom bubble was going strong in the late 90's, a stock would go public at $5/share with no business really, just the name and a concept. Just add dotcom and it would run to $100 on nothing. Many of the search engines lasted a little longer, but those also faded.

Google managed to spread its wings, but I'm not sure it or some of the others are all that invincible. It seems they got support from the oligarchs by agreeing to go fascist, including (in some cases at least) an agreement to go totalitarian against liberty and conservatives.

Part of it is spying for the CIA/NSA, but pushing certain search results to the front page is also BIG in controlling the public "narrative". That is why I really hate all the bailouts for billionaires and the guys like Corzine that never get prosecuted.

Now we have cyber war and meme war, but we have to get our government back. #2weeks we are promised over and over.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (bT8Z4)

312 And heard a couple of airlines now don't want any NRA members to use their planes.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (aC6Sd)

313 "A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a
local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR
that he deputized:



https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e



The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)"

There is a part where he is speaking glowingly about Nezar Hanze and how he has the same values/goals. One of which is giving kids a second chance! Strange thing to bring up in a speech like that since most people believe children deserve another chance and usually a lot more than two. Unless... you are talking about ignoring serious crimes. By certain youths. Youths of politically favored groups. This must be what he meant or else he would not have brought it up. It is further evidence of what we are starting to hear about the Broward catch and release program. Or don't even catch.

Posted by: Ripley at February 24, 2018 02:34 PM (MxEKc)

314 Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (bT8Z4)

the only way that works is if its a strictly American company.

Big Tech is getting hammered by the EU, and China... because they have no freedom of Speech...

and they cave... which suddenly means Americans get swept up in the Laws or morals of Non US cultures...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

315 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


"Our children are so important to us."

Yeah, otherwise you'd have to wear the suicide bomb belts yourselves.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

316 perhaps to be discussed in the weekly Gum Thread?


https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=376039

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 02:39 PM (EyPfd)

317 Szep jo napot kivanok mindenkinek!

Most csinaltam a magyar nyelvi vizsga-csak 110%-ot kaptam!

Basz meg!

Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:39 PM (zCyNd)

318 307 Hey Weasel, got my 2018 NRA ballot for directors in front of me. The only name I recognize is Grover Norquist. Who else should I vote against. heh. I can't vote for more than 25 candidates. Any thoughts?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (RZWC0)


Grover Norquist is a notorious Muzzie-lover. It wouldn't surprise me if George W. Bush got his "Islam is a religion of peace" talking point from him.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (sdi6R)

319 Was wondering when Miklos would show up to - of all things - a "Hungarian thread" at the HQ.


Still remember the Hungarian med students on the train from Lvov to Kiev. They were stoked to be able to hang out with Americans for a night. They had some great spicy ketchup-like condiment they shared. Only flavorful thing I had that summer apart from shashlik we managed to find in Leningrad.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (ETFzT)

320 Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 01:38 PM (H5rtT)
------
Thanks for your insight. I was speaking, of course, of people I know personally in the high-power community.

t-dubya-d : John Sigler is a good guy. Not sure if he's running for the board again, but Rich Kussman is a good guy too. Both are active competitors.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (Sfs6o)

321 nly flavorful thing I had that summer apart from shashlik we managed to find in Leningrad.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (ETFzT)


In the USSR (shortly before it fell) a Russian Orthodox priest was talking about Leningrad, saying it used to be Petrograd, and before that, St. Petersburg.

Then he smiled slyly and said, "But it may be St. Petersburg again, soon."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

322 @321 In the USSR (shortly before it fell) a Russian Orthodox priest was talking about Leningrad, saying it used to be Petrograd, and before that, St. Petersburg.

Then he smiled slyly and said, "But it may be St. Petersburg again, soon."
-------------------------

On the one hand, I'm glad those names are switching back.

On the other, well...

The name "Stalingrad" has meaning for anyone who's paid the least bit of attention to World War 2 history. But Volgograd? Not so much...

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 02:48 PM (VAt5v)

323 1. deliberately ginned up,
b: emergent property,

or

I - obvious consequences of Democrat policy.

Let's run with numeral I since Roman times, it's just easier.

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 02:50 PM (FhXTo)

324 Scott Israel: "surround yourself with like-minded people."

Well, I guess he succeeded.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

325 Maybe the Purple Revolution will involve mentally unstable and borderline criminal youths with no parents living in foster homes getting purposely agitated and provked to the point they go out and shoot up places like schools, malls, concerts, night clubs, ect...
Then the Marxists/Commies have prepackaged massages, mouth pieces, and narratives ready to go in order to sway the traumatized and emotional public into supporting giving up their rights and freedoms.


Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 02:53 PM (g4lFK)

326 But junior, I'm fairly confident that any foreigner travelling (intentionally) to Volgograd goes there precisely because it's Stalingrad.


Not sure what there is to even see there, related to the battle. Need to research that. I have a gigantic European battlefield tour dreamt of/planned, but the Soviet ones are a bit of a quandary. Not much to actually visit.


Mass graves near St Petersburg, and the warning painted on the buildings on one side of Nyevsky Prospyekt ("During shelling this side of the street is safer") were the only WWII things I recall there.


Was just wondering the other day whether Russian trolleys and buses still have the signs near the front, for the seating near the front door: "Seats Reserved for Pregnant Women and Veterans" (something like that). In the 1970s, "veterans" meant Great Patriotic War.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:53 PM (ETFzT)

327 Still remember the Hungarian med students on the train from Lvov to Kiev. They were stoked to be able to hang out with Americans for a night. They had some great spicy ketchup-like condiment they shared. Only flavorful thing I had that summer apart from shashlik we managed to find in Leningrad.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (ETFzT)

Hungarians are very fond of Ukrainian ketchup and horseradish condiments. When people visit Ukraine from Budapest friends always ask to bring some.

Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:55 PM (zCyNd)

328 Scott Israel: "That's why the Broward County Sheriff's office has been so successful."

Oopsie.

OTOH, they did keep Nicholas Cruz out of jail, so there's that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:56 PM (YqDXo)

329 Actually, Hungarian gypsies would not do well on the Hungarian language quiz. That would require literacy.

Gypsies still have their own language, by the way, called Lovari. It only has about 500 words, and it still quite close to the Indian dialect of their ancestors.

Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:58 PM (zCyNd)

330 Siglers on the ballot, no Kussman though. Maybe do a little research before I cast my ballot and send another donation. Disappointed there is no Nebraska candidate! Our Governor invited the NRA convention here after political hack in DFW told them to stay away.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 03:08 PM (RZWC0)

331 Gypsies still have their own language, by the way, called Lovari. It only has about 500 words, and it still quite close to the Indian dialect of their ancestors.
Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:58 PM (zCyNd)


Only 500 words? How can they express themselves with any precision with so few?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

332 @326 Not sure what there is to even see there, related to the battle. Need to research that. I have a gigantic European battlefield tour dreamt of/planned, but the Soviet ones are a bit of a quandary. Not much to actually visit.
-----------------------

I suspect that the big draw for a war history buff visiting Russia would be the tank museum at Kubinka. As for actual battlefields? Dunno. But I suspect that if you asked in the right places (I do know of one - the forums for Battlefront Miniatures get a lot of Russians who are fans of World War 2, but they're shutting down the 15th of next month) you'd get a list pretty quickly.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 03:12 PM (VAt5v)

333 @325 Then the Marxists/Commies have prepackaged massages
-------------------

Is the masseuse hot?

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 03:13 PM (VAt5v)

334 {{{horseradish}}}

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 03:18 PM (AC18V)

335 Not sure if its still true but many years ago there was a news report English passed 1 million words, and it said French only had 100,000.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:19 PM (aC6Sd)

336 Any Walking Dead fans interested in this Sunday's director's cut season 8
episode 8 and episode 9 premiere since the writers decided to kill off
Carl, unexpectedly?
---
No, I discovered, at least in my case. After a lengthy argument over the last jedi in which I stated I was done with Disney, when I meant to say 'Disney Star Wars', I got to thinking and there's a bunch of stuff set to auto-record on my DVR that are still there out of inertia, and I cleared out more than I expected. TWD was among the casualties of my meh.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 03:20 PM (XQvuQ)

337 I know there are fortifications left from WWII, of course I mostly look for 7 year or Napoleonic war sites but doing that see lots of rebuilding to them for WWII.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:22 PM (aC6Sd)

338 And there are lots of YouTube videos on finding tanks in bogs or lakes that they tried to drive over and sunk I guess

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:25 PM (aC6Sd)

339 I know how to say a few words in Hungarian, one of which is the word for sweets, like cookies. I also know how to ask what time it is. So if I went to Hungary, I'd grow fat on sweets, and always know what time it was. So I'd have that going for me.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 24, 2018 03:25 PM (FQKBL)

340 Only 500 words? How can they express themselves with any precision with so few?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Dindu + nuffin with 498 left over.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:33 PM (zCyNd)

341 The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.


Exactly. They will prefer the extra few hundred thousand members they are getting out of the deal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 24, 2018 03:35 PM (yQpMk)

342 Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 24, 2018 03:25 PM (FQKBL)

You would always get the freshly baked pastries!

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (zCyNd)

343 "Just bake the cake, hater!"

"Then just fly the plane, asshole."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 24, 2018 03:48 PM (jnLXM)

344 307 Hey Weasel, got my 2018 NRA ballot for directors in front of me. The only name I recognize is Grover Norquist. Who else should I vote against. heh. I can't vote for more than 25 candidates. Any thoughts?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (RZWC0)

Grover Norquist is a notorious Muzzie-lover. It wouldn't surprise me if George W. Bush got his "Islam is a religion of peace" talking point from him.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (sdi6R)


Good to know rickl. I have never trusted the guy. Never. But with this new info, I would encorage others not to either. Makes me wonder if he is of the globalist ilk.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 03:58 PM (tnOuI)

345 Big Tech is getting hammered by the EU, and China... because they have no freedom of Speech...

and they cave... which suddenly means Americans get swept up in the Laws or morals of Non US cultures...
Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 02:36 PM (NgKpN)


That's a good point.
Also, by their nature it appears all big tech giants are globalists, even if not left (though most are). So that's a double hemlock cocktail for free speech.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (tnOuI)

346 A few years ago we went to Fla to a family owned group of 4 cottages on the beach. We rented our favorite and arrived to find an odd "family" in the neighboring cottage. We went to the beach and they were there, the women fully clothed, the men in shorts and the children completely naked. It was weird. I went back to the cabin and they followed me. They began to pack up their car and load their things as it was check out time for them. One of the women came and knocked on my door. She said they had stayed in the cabin we were in and she left something on top of the cabinets. She wanted me to get on a stepstool and "search". I was very suspicious about that and then I heard a noise. The glass door behind me (which I had locked when I came in) rattled. I looked around and 2 young men of theirs were standing there trying to look unsuspicious. The woman kept asking me to check the top of the cabinet for her (I forgot what) all the while they were eyeing my purse sitting on the table beside the locked glass door. I told the woman to send the men away, she could come in, I would lock the door behind her and she could get on the stepstool and look for whatever. If she found/didnt find, I would unlock the door for her to leave. She wanted nothing to do with that and left. So did the young men at the back glass door. I was so shaken I called the owners who lived across the street. One of them came over and oversaw this group leaving. A few minutes later, the local police arrived and made a big show of following them off the island. The police came back and told the owner and us they would keep a close watch out for a few days in case that group came back. The police said they had reports from up and down the coast of gypsy family gangs staying in places and robbing other guests who were careless about securing their apts/condos/cottages, cars, etc. They didnt come back but that scared the dickens out of me. My Mother in Law was robbed at a train station in Hungary when she came to Europe to visit us and take a tour by gypsy gang--stay far, far away, not a good people in my experience

Posted by: lb at February 24, 2018 04:05 PM (Ea9jC)

347 335 Not sure if its still true but many years ago there was a news report English passed 1 million words, and it said French only had 100,000.
Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:19 PM (aC6Sd)


Misquoted. French has 100,000 words for "surrender," not 100,000 all told.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

348 340 Only 500 words? How can they express themselves with any precision with so few?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Dindu + nuffin with 498 left over.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:33 PM (zCyNd)


LOL!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 04:09 PM (YqDXo)

349 That's a good point.

Also, by their nature it appears all big tech giants are globalists,
even if not left (though most are). So that's a double hemlock
cocktail for free speech.
---
Maybe they need breaking up. Because if being global means giving up on free speech, we don't need them.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (XQvuQ)

350 There's a reason English has so many words.

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (fuK7c)

351 The French fiercely limit the number of new French words. They have an official bureau for that, I think.
That's why it is easy to learn, relatively speaking.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (w7KSn)

352 I do followTWD, but missed two episodes at end of lasts half season, its on to late for me and have to watch it on Demand.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (aC6Sd)

353 That's a good point.
Also, by their nature it appears all big tech giants are globalists, even if not left (though most are). So that's a double hemlock cocktail for free speech.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (tnOuI)

Also because WE opened the door with other countries laws being able to be enforced here.

Because we did it to get Noriega... we now say that if you break US Law, even if you are in another country, we can come get you...

Soon we will see EU hate speech laws being enforced on people in the US... because they can be READ in the EU... its almost inevitable unless there is a MAJOR push back from the Non Nanny Men of this country.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 04:27 PM (NgKpN)

354 351 The French fiercely limit the number of new French words. They have an official bureau for that, I think.
That's why it is easy to learn, relatively speaking.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (w7KSn)


I recently began studying Japanese (for whatever reason; I'm not sure, actually). Turns out that there are only about 2000 kanji approved for use in newspapers by the Japanese government.

Hey, that's not so bad ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

355 @333 Is the masseuse hot?
---------------------

That reminds me. Used to know an Hungarian masseuse here in SoCal. Smoking hot woman with dusky skin. Went out with her once, but I kinda screwed up the date.

She moved up to the Bay Area not long after.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (VAt5v)

356 @353
Soon we will see EU hate speech laws being enforced on people in the US... because they can be READ in the EU... its almost inevitable unless there is a MAJOR push back from the Non Nanny Men of this country.
----------------------

There's already been some pushback against this sort of thing here in the US. I don't know if you remember libel tourism. The way it worked was that a book would get published in the US that was accurate, but critical of a group (usually Islam). The book would be sold in Great Britain. Someone in Great Britain would then sue for libel in British courts, where truth is not an absolute defense. The British court would then reward a judgement against the book's author.

Fortunately, Congress passed a law several years ago that made such judgements unenforceable in the US.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (VAt5v)

357 Spokane has the "Jimmy Marks" Gypsy Clan... The usual bunch of psychics, palmreaders, con-artists and bull-sh1tters... They're mostly confined to the used car business these days... You can find out more in Wikipedia.

Posted by: franksalterego at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (3cq8T)

358 I still wanna know: Who or what gives anybody any right to leave the country they were born in?
If you live in a ****hole, It is very likely that you personally had something to do with the place becoming a ****hole.

Time to fix that green statue with the fake torch and spiky hat. Ditch the torch and put on a hand with a single upraised finger. Yeah, that finger.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 24, 2018 06:24 PM (RuIsu)

359 Vic We Have No Party: "They get their power from the raw number of members."

This.

When I donated, I didn't give a flip about ANY associated programs. I didn't want the free hats, decals, tote bags, whatever either.

I donated to help their legislative activism and educational programs. That's it. That's why I got annoyed with all the mailings after becoming a member. They were wasting limited resources to remind me to do what I was already doing.

Just take my money and be happy. Don't pitch your own product anymore, much less ancillary products I don't give a crap about.

But these corporations now pulling back their coupons? That just helps me capitalize on my time as the list of companies I might've done business with is reduced.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 24, 2018 08:25 PM (H8S+R)

360 Ever met a Gypsy? Once, briefly, long ago. They passed through my township selling wooden lawn furniture when I was in in 9th grade.

Posted by: Spice at February 25, 2018 10:51 AM (rIgDj)

361 ^^^
"Hot Hungarian masseuse ,screwed up the date??? and she moved to San Fran afterwards"

You are an evil gypsy you

Posted by: saf at February 25, 2018 01:26 PM (cS/ge)

362 "53 he NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)

THIS!!

They've probably made made more in new memberships and renewals in the last week then this will ever cost them. "


Yep. I just got a one year membership. Could've saved money getting a multi-year membership, but figured I'd want the opportunity to show support again in a year or so by joining again.

Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at February 27, 2018 02:55 PM (Oq6zc)

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They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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