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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 01-20-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Animation

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When I was growing up, movie animation was the Disney movies from the 90s. The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, Aladdin. They were ubiquitous and formative about my views on what animation should look and feel like. They became, in a word, the standard in my mind.

I'm using the word standard a bit more pejoratively than I expected. I equate it to standard features on a car. Do you get excited about power steering, seat belts, or air conditioning anymore? Probably not. They're what you expect, and when looking at a new car, you take those elements for granted.

I bring this up because I've seen some things over the last few years that have really opened my eyes about the beauty of hand-drawn animation, and each one has the distinct value of being made by someone other than the Walt Disney Company. What made me fall in love with animation as an art form was those films that looked, moved, and felt different from Disney, while also being beautiful. I've previously talked about the 1971 short film version of A Christmas Carol and how I love it because it looks like the sketches from the book come to life. It's that sort of thing that sparks my imagination and gets me looking.

I'll admit it, though, I think my love of animation has begun to override my other critical impulses.


The Thief and the Cobbler

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Here's a movie where the history behind the film is more interesting than the film itself, and I love the film. Richard Williams was and is a great animator. He was in charge of the animation of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and used the success there to fund a movie he had been in some process of making on and off for about twenty years. He already had Vincent Price's performance as ZigZag in the can for years before he got serious money to make the film. Williams' process, though, is exacting and ever-expanding, which translated to a ballooning budget and production schedule, angering the studio so much that they eventually took the film from Williams and gave it to a bond company to finish. What was finished got released just after Aladdin, a movie to which it shared many similar visual cues. The documentary Persistence of Vision outright states that Disney stole those cues from Williams' long in production film, but because Disney was bigger and their movie got released sooner, everyone considered The Thief and the Cobbler to be a knockoff.

Which is really too bad, because what he put together, while choppy and disjointed, is wonderful. As I said earlier, he didn't actually finish the film. The movie released in theaters had songs added on, and a bunch of other changes, including new, much less impressively animated, sequences. However, the original vision is one of those counter-factuals that attracts the attention of a lot of movie fans. One of those fans has spent years trying to reconstruct the original idea as much as possible into what is called The Recobbled Cut, the entirety of which is available on Youtube.

Enough of that, though. Here's why I love this movie:

Do you see what he did with motion, design, and color to bring it all together? No matter how well or poorly that sequence fits into the movie, it's a thrill to watch. And, it involved not a single computer. The bit down the staircase, where the camera swings down? To my eyes, it looks like an early computer background with the characters animated on top of it. It was done by hand.

That, above, is a sequence done fairly early in the process that Williams used whenever he needed to find new funding or get support from a new executive. And it pretty consistently worked because it's gorgeous, complex, and wonderful.


The Secret of Kells

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Here's a movie that looks so different from most animated movies, that simply seeing it's poster in a gallery draws the eye. The movie's style almost completely eschews any sense of the third dimension, preferring to look more like a medieval tapestry than a modern animated film. It shares a certain aesthetic with the television show Samurai Jack but with greater detail and a gentler soul.

Below are two clips that exemplify what I mean when I find animation that is decidedly different from the standard to be fascinating and, when well done, beautiful.


CGI

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Comparing either of the two movies above (one that is more than 20 years old the other about to the most recent animated film from Disney and Pixar, Coco (a movie I love, by the way), and all I see is that traditional hand-drawn animation is still more beautiful and soulful than computer generated animation. No matter the beauty put into the designs of a computer-generated image, I always find that the image itself has a certain sterile feel to it in comparison. I don't disdain computer animation. I celebrate how it's allowed some very good stories to be told. Moana is an example of a movie that contains a lot of very detailed and realistic water effects that would be damn near impossible to create with hand-drawn animation.

And yet, there is no awe in me when I see the marvelous water effects in Moana. I feel like it's expected at this point. In my mind, computers can create any image, and it feels easy (I know that computer artists work really hard at a job that few people can do, but still, it feels like the computer is doing most of the work). Seeing a sequence come together like the war machine sequence in The Thief and the Cobbler or the fight against Maleficient in Sleeping Beauty and knowing that a team of people started with blank paper and came up with that is amazing to me.


Best Picture Update

The votes are in, and we have a winner.

I'm holding off for another week though. Because reasons. I'll let you know next week.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
12 Strong
Den of Thieves
Forever My Girl

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Fiddler on the Roof

Movies I Saw This Week:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) Poster blurb: "Really wants to entertain and succeeds about half the time." [Netflix Instant]
Bone Tomahawk (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Quiet western that becomes horrifying in the best of ways by the end." [Amazon Prime]
Jiro Dreams of Sushi (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "A wonderful little look into the life of a man and his dedication to his work." [Netflix Instant]
Seance on a Wet Afternoon (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Successful little thriller that relies on one of my pet peeves where the main characters know something but the audience doesn't until the end." ["Library"]
Salome (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) "Absolutely everything about this movie is wrong, and it's glorious. Whoever recommended that I watch this, thank you so much. Probably the earliest example of so bad its good." [Youtube]
I don't feel at home in this world anymore. (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Very funny movie made in the same stylistic vein as Blue Ruin and Green Room." [Netflix Instant]
Real Genius (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Witty and intelligently written while being consistently fun." [Netflix DVD]


Contact

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I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 06:44 PM




Comments

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1 hallooo

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 06:41 PM (hMwEB)

2 I'm first? but OM already announced the nood...

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 06:42 PM (hMwEB)

3 for those with cable, free starz this weekend

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 06:42 PM (hMwEB)

4 Dickensian, Bought it and loved it.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2018 06:43 PM (Nyg5o)

5 Some of my favorite Disney animation are the short features, especially the Goofy ones where dozens of Goofys do things like play baseball. So damn funny, and very well made. And Donald Duck. Some of his tantrums were truly epic.

Need to go find some of those.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 06:45 PM (bNbo2)

6 KTY is dragging us to the movies tomorrow to watch a new Studio Ghibli movie, Mary and the Witch's Flower

apparently this is our only chance to see it or something

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 06:46 PM (hMwEB)

7 Worst ever animation? Lord of the Rings 1978.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 06:48 PM (WbIyz)

8 Top 100 !

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2018 06:48 PM (NcQCM)

9 I was promised nude movies...

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2018 06:49 PM (LiyEm)

10 I dislike the kind of animation in the last picture, not sure why. Will watch it

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 06:49 PM (aC6Sd)

11 test

Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 06:49 PM (ir75J)

12 I was promised nude movies...



By whom ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2018 06:49 PM (NcQCM)

13 12 Strong is really bad!!!

Posted by: dealkiller at January 20, 2018 06:50 PM (Dhcvl)

14 7 Worst ever animation? Lord of the Rings 1978.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 06:48 PM (WbIyz)

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I actually really like that. The rotoscoping stuff provided some realistic movement. It's definitely not for everyone though. Does look kinda weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (Jj43a)

15 I am posting on a live thread? Unpossible.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (56LWv)

16 Had a wish to see Fantasia again, and Songs of the South which is so verboten its not funny.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (aC6Sd)

17 and all I see is that traditional hand-drawn animation is still more beautiful and soulful than computer generated animation.


I saw an Antiques Roadshow kind of thing recently where someone had a model of a Disney character that was some sort of donkey. (I should know more, but I don't. Something Fantasia I think).

The thing that leapt out at me was that this is how Disney got the animators to stay on the same page. We're not coming up with our original ideas of what Peter Pan looks like (it was a donkey, Peter Pan isn't a donkey, stay with me, I'm trying here) it was saying "base everything off this model". And then you get the 3D and everything but the character starts from somewhere and has there to go back to.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (fuK7c)

18 For animation I love Miyazaki. I'm also in the process of re-watching Full Metal Alchemist.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 06:52 PM (NWiLs)

19 The rotoscoping stuff provided some realistic movement.


They just painted over live footage and you can see the real people through it.

That was pretty bad. It makes Fritz the Cat's animation look like Sleeping Beauty.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 06:52 PM (WbIyz)

20 Disney character that was some sort of donkey. (I should know more, but I don't. Something Fantasia I think).

Pinnochio, I am thinking.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 06:53 PM (bNbo2)

21 If it doesn't have dancing hippos in tutus, I'm not watching.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 20, 2018 06:53 PM (pvjTE)

22 Is the top still from "Black Cauldron"?

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 06:53 PM (ANIFC)

23 Saw 1st episode of Cowboy Beebop yesterday, but YouTube its difficult as its hard to find copies, somehow CrunchyRoll has it but wouldn't play on my tablet but don't remember if its a software or sign up that stopped it.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 06:54 PM (aC6Sd)

24 Bander, I have a program from the original run of Fantasia and they made little 3-D models of all the main characters so that the animators would have reference material.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 06:54 PM (qJtVm)

25 Also damm Peter Jackson to hell for Lord of the Rings. Just rereading the books. He needs to be drowned in his own shit.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 20, 2018 06:54 PM (56LWv)

26 22 Is the top still from "Black Cauldron"?
Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 06:53 PM (ANIFC)

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Sleeping Beauty

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 06:54 PM (Jj43a)

27 The Balrog is the best part of Fantasia.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 06:55 PM (WbIyz)

28 Good Eeeeevinnnningggg

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 06:56 PM (w+Jhj)

29 Has anyone seen The Shape of Water? Saw it last weekend and loved it. I'm a huge Doug Jones fan as well as Del Toro.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2018 06:56 PM (dUJdY)

30 I saw an Antiques Roadshow kind of thing recently where someone had a model of a Disney character that was some sort of donkey. (I should know more, but I don't. Something Fantasia I think).

The thing that leapt out at me was that this is how Disney got the animators to stay on the same page. We're not coming up with our original ideas of what Peter Pan looks like (it was a donkey, Peter Pan isn't a donkey, stay with me, I'm trying here) it was saying "base everything off this model". And then you get the 3D and everything but the character starts from somewhere and has there to go back to.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (fuK7c)

There's a mini-doc on Pixar which plays on my OnDemand while waiting for me to make a choice, and Pixar animators still do work off real models to make the 3D renderings.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 06:56 PM (ANIFC)

31 16
Had a wish to see Fantasia again, and Songs of the South which is so verboten its not funny.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (aC6Sd)

Disney re-releases Song of the South every few years like most of their old classics. The last time they released it I got three copies.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 20, 2018 06:57 PM (mpXpK)

32 Watching Paint Your Wagon, one of my favorite movies, ever.

Posted by: Bill R. at January 20, 2018 06:57 PM (IuYIh)

33 Not a movie but I like the "Archer" animation.

Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 06:57 PM (pkU+3)

34 Also damm Peter Jackson to hell for Lord of the Rings. Just rereading the books. He needs to be drowned in his own shit.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 20, 2018 06:54 PM (56LWv)

Saw Fellowship of the Ring at the theater. Halfway through I was sulking like a teenager, arms folded, sighing, closing my eyes, hoping to fall asleep. Worst theater experience of my life. Fooking hate those movies (somehow my sons comvinced me to watch the whole trilogy on DVD...got worse)

Blasphemy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 06:57 PM (bNbo2)

35 "I actually really like that. The rotoscoping stuff provided some
realistic movement. It's definitely not for everyone though. Does look
kinda weird."

Like in "Wizards". That's a pretty wild movie.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (w+Jhj)

36 Sleeping Beauty animation is cool. Same team as 101Dalmatians, Im guessing.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (hMwEB)

37 Personally, I like the old Warner Bros and Looney Tunes animations. Even got my grandkids to watch them. The oldest's favorite was Tom and Jerry.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (R5lpX)

38 Yea, movie thread!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (xJa6I)

39
"April Showers" from Bambi;

https://tinyurl.com/y7m2t7w4

Old school animated water.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (3DZIZ)

40 35 "I actually really like that. The rotoscoping stuff provided some
realistic movement. It's definitely not for everyone though. Does look
kinda weird."

Like in "Wizards". That's a pretty wild movie.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (w+Jhj)

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I never liked Wizards. It felt like The work of a guy with a lot of ideas but nothing strong to connect them together with.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 06:59 PM (Jj43a)

41 I got to see a sneak preview of "Den of Thieves" a few months ago. I had to sign a NDA to not talk about it until it was released. I liked it. It was like a combo of "Heat", "Oceans 11" & "The Usual Suspects." A lot of action, drama, and yet a quite funny in parts. Some of it didn't quite flow, but they said it was a rough cut, and may not match the released film.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (ANIFC)

42 33 Not a movie but I like the "Archer" animation.
Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 06:57 PM (pkU+3)

Plus it's funny as hell.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (NWiLs)

43 The oldest's favorite was Tom and Jerry.

Probably my second favorite. My favorite is Foghorn Leghorn.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

44 I binged thru Battlestar Galactica this week, right after binging thru Longmire

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (hMwEB)

45 The Thief and the Cobbler.

Like a lot of people, I'd never heard of it till now. No wonder -- apparently it got taken over by the Weinstein brothers who FUBAR'd it.

From the intro to the video by the person who posted it on youtube:
"Williams lost control over the film when it was mere minitues away from completion, resulting in an change in tone, and in some cases, animation (see my other Theif video). The movie was released in 1997 and was a complete flop due to the fact that Miramax had assraped it into being a Disney-style musical." [ Miramax = Weinsteins ]

And from this article - A review of several versions of "The Thief and the Cobbler":

"Later, Miramax bought the rights for distribution in the US, and Harvey Weinstein demanded that the movie be edited and recut even further. On top of the changes Calvert [ the 2nd director ] had made, Weinstein added new voice actors, new dialogue, and cut even more footage out, resulting in an abridged version that was released under the title Arabian Knight."


So Harvey Weinstein isn't just a perv, but an all around a**hole, a living stereotype of the greedy, crooked, stupid, a**hole Hollywood exec. His brother too.

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (EzdLW)

46 I like the early Disney shorts too, like the Merrie Melodies series. Here's "Music Land":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dihJ1w48Jh0

It was a more civilized time, when characters wore gloves (though oftentimes no pants).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (qJtVm)

47 >>>>Is the top still from "Black Cauldron"?<<<<

Sleeping Beauty

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (3DZIZ)

48 LoTR could have used less "Dwarf" jokes and a LOT less Liv Tyler, but it wasn't that bad. Until the end, which they screwed up and missed the entire point of the books.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:01 PM (w+Jhj)

49 I watch LoTR movies but its not LoTR, he did forget transgender elves come to think of it.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:01 PM (aC6Sd)

50 Oops, Silly Symphonies, not Merrie Melodies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (qJtVm)

51 I like the rotoscoped orcs in the animated LotR.

Creepy and weird.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (3DZIZ)

52 45
So Harvey Weinstein isn't just a perv, but an all around a**hole, a living stereotype of the greedy, crooked, stupid, a**hole Hollywood exec. His brother too.
Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (EzdLW)

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The documentary about the movie, if I remember correctly, never mentions Weinstein by name. They were probably still terrified of pissing him off. If they were to make that documentary now, though...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (Jj43a)

53 Probably my second favorite. My favorite is Foghorn Leghorn.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

I say son, whatcha got there.

I liked them all. My better half hates animation or cartoons.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (R5lpX)

54 @22 Is the top still from "Black Cauldron"?
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I wonder how many people even remember that Disney once made a Black Cauldron movie?

It'd be nice to see someone make another attempt at it. The book series is quite good.

Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (fqOFI)

55 watching Coubterpart pilot on free Starz

huh, Lee Adama just showed up

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (hMwEB)

56 Speaking of animation, a shout out for Mel Blanc, best voice actor ever.

Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Tweety Bird, Sylvester the Cat, Yosemite Sam, Foghorn Leghorn, Marvin the Martian, Pepé Le Pew, Speedy Gonzales, Wile E. Coyote, Road Runner,the Tasmanian Devil.

Barney Rubble.

And many others.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (pV/54)

57 >> I binged thru Battlestar Galactica this week,

The new one (Ron D. Moore) or the old one, with Ben Cartwright?

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (8O3HH)

58 54 @22 Is the top still from "Black Cauldron"?
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I wonder how many people even remember that Disney once made a Black Cauldron movie?

It'd be nice to see someone make another attempt at it. The book series is quite good.
Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (fqOFI)

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I read yesterday that it's Disney's next live action remake they're putting into development.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (Jj43a)

59 Counterpart

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (hMwEB)

60 On topic first-

Animation is important to me. Growing up, only animation could make the truly fantastic come to life. Yes, ILM did wonders in Star Wars and Empire but it was largely done with minuatures and practical effects, good but still 'grounded' in something physical.

If you want a talking owl who can emote and convey power, frailty and strength all at once...well, you can only really find that in the animated movie the Secret of NIHM.

Want to see a superhero truly be super and interact with his environment using his powers? You need to animate him and his world. Marvel has solved that in the last six years, but growing up, CGI just was not there yet. Too expensive and too 'fake'.

Don't ask my why, but I'd accept 'fake' things easier if they were animated. An animated control panel or image felt more 'real' than early digital or a film insert would.

Likewise in themes, Japanese animation kept on telling stories adults might like long after Warner and Disney had pretty much abandoned that.

Starships, battle suits, sexy girls, sex itself even, sword fights, ninjas, fireballs, cyberware...Japan kept on making interesting stories that weren't directed at kids....until the late 90's when every protagonist got turned into a teenager. Grr.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

61 34 Hi Pug
As for the abortion that he did do The Hobbit. Grrrrrr...... He needs a blood eagle.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 20, 2018 07:05 PM (56LWv)

62 46 I like the early Disney shorts too, like the Merrie Melodies series. Here's "Music Land":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dihJ1w48Jh0

It was a more civilized time, when characters wore gloves (though oftentimes no pants).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (qJtVm)

++++

The Merrie Melodies shorts were Warner Brothers, like Looney Tunes.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 20, 2018 07:05 PM (FUu/Z)

63 >>>>The Balrog is the best part of Fantasia.<<<<<

Chernabog is cool, but I've always been partial to the dancing mushrooms.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 07:05 PM (3DZIZ)

64 The new one (Ron D. Moore) or the old one, with Ben Cartwright?

==

new one

it's free on amazzon prime

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:05 PM (hMwEB)

65 "Probably my second favorite. My favorite is Foghorn Leghorn.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (dUJdY)



I say son, whatcha got there.



I liked them all. My better half hates animation or cartoons.

Posted by: Traveling Man"

'I had my feathers numbered, in case of just such an emergency' is one of my favorite sayings.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (w+Jhj)

66 42
33 Not a movie but I like the "Archer" animation.

Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 06:57 PM (pkU+3)



Plus it's funny as hell.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:00 PM (NWiLs)

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I've been watching some re-runs the past few days. Hoping they come out with a new season.


Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (pkU+3)

67 I got Lloyd Alexander to autograph a kids book once

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (hMwEB)

68 I loved all the old classic Disney animation movies. And Sleeping Beauty was one of the first ones I saw and so it has been my all time favorite. It seems that the 50s and early 60s were the classic years for Disney, but maybe that is because that was when I first started seing those movies.


I never did care that much for the Warner Brothers animations.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (mpXpK)

69 It'd be nice to see someone make another attempt at it. The book series is quite good.
Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (fqOFI)

Lloyd Alexander, The Chronicles of Prydain. Read them numerous times as a kid. I still have a battered paperback collection in my library. Great boy books.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (bNbo2)

70 66 I've been watching some re-runs the past few days. Hoping they come out with a new season.


Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (pkU+3)

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2 more then done.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:07 PM (Jj43a)

71 No mention of Anime Tentacle Porn. WTF?

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 20, 2018 07:07 PM (vV/gB)

72 Before TV, animated shorts were often used in movie theaters to fill the time while old school projectionists reversed the reels for the features.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:07 PM (pV/54)

73 April Showers" from Bambi;

Oh that's amazing.

I sometimes fall into the hole of thinking that everything from the past is stupid, but that's not. At all.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2018 07:07 PM (fuK7c)

74 Other day I was whistling Barber of Seville, everything I know about opera I learned from Bugs Bunny.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:08 PM (aC6Sd)

75 Now, another wall of text!

I saw '12 Strong' yesterday.

And...it's ok. '13 Hours' did a better job, honestly. Though Chris Hemsworth has real charisma. The story of the first Special Forces troops into Afghanistan is told simply and accurately. Though once again, it seems like just about every military wife is a ball-cutting bitch. Dunno why. Only one really seemed to be a grown up about her SOLDIER husband going off to war.

Fight choreography was 'ok', not great. Setting was good, 'Afghanistan' looked great on the screen. Some digital 'blood' and explosions it seems but other practical effects were used.

There is the right amount of flag waving and a good amount of jargon, specific details and clueless upper officers without going too far in those directions.

Go see it, it's Moron fuel, even if it's not perfect.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:08 PM (xJa6I)

76 68
I never did care that much for the Warner Brothers animations.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (mpXpK)

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For non Disney stuff, I've always had a real soft spot for Anastasia. There's some wonderful animation in that movie like when she goes to the abandoned palace and her memories busy out in color from the windows.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:08 PM (Jj43a)

77 I really liked the LoTR's Extended Version DVDs. No, they are not the book. Probably one of the best fiction books ever written. I try not to compare movies based on books with the books themselves. Not really fair. To get LoTR's exactly like the books, it would be 800 hours long. There was just no way to do it.

Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)

78 64
The new one (Ron D. Moore) or the old one, with Ben Cartwright?



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new one



it's free on amazzon prime

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:05 PM
(hMwEB)
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First season was good, especially the third episode I think it was. 33May have to watch it tonight.

Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (pkU+3)

79 Burst... Not busy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (Jj43a)

80 I never did care that much for the Warner Brothers animations.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (mpXpK)

++++

You realize, of course, that this means war.

*smacks Vic in the face with glove*

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (FUu/Z)

81 69 It'd be nice to see someone make another attempt at it. The book series is quite good.
Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:02 PM (fqOFI)

Lloyd Alexander, The Chronicles of Prydain. Read them numerous times as a kid. I still have a battered paperback collection in my library. Great boy books.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:06 PM (bNbo2)

:fist bump

That was my first fantasy series I read when I was in Middle School. Good books that still hold up today. I like Taran Wanderer the most, I think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (xJa6I)

82 Peter and the Wolf. Great animation, wonderful music. I can still hum most of the score in my head. need to find that one somewhere. Been a long time.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (bNbo2)

83 I liked Shape of Water. Very del Toro.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (pV/54)

84 Who are these ink stains?

Posted by: Felix the Cat at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (BxkYl)

85 78 First season was good, especially the third episode I think it was. 33May have to watch it tonight.
Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (pkU+3)

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33 was the first episode of the series proper. Everything before was the miniseries pilot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (Jj43a)

86 Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)

I also love that movie. Last gasp of grown up animation in the US...even if it's more 'teenaged boy' than 'grown up'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (xJa6I)

87 Does anyone remember Clutch Cargo? It was animated stills with only the jaws moving. Weird, but we watched it cuz only three channels and moving cartoons were in short supply. Watched Roy Rogers, Rin Tin Tin, and Sky King serials.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 20, 2018 07:11 PM (vV/gB)

88 I like Taran Wanderer the most, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (xJa6I)

I believe that was my favorite as well. I might just throw that back on the to-read pile. Might be fun.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:11 PM (bNbo2)

89 Warner Brothers' DC comics straight to DVD movies are pretty good.

Have a soft spot for the Robotech series from the 80s that took several unrelated Japanese series and linked them together for an American re-imagining.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 20, 2018 07:11 PM (6n332)

90 yeah 33 is intense

if you are watching on Amazon, the pilot mini series is also free

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:11 PM (hMwEB)

91 Top image is from Sleeping Beauty.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:12 PM (xJa6I)

92 When I was growing up, movie animation was the Disney movies from the 90s.

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Wait, so you're saying you really are 29?

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2018 07:12 PM (BiLU+)

93 The Igno_daughter says Shape of Water is The Iron Giant with a love interest. I confessed to her that I haven't seen Giant, which she says is one of the best movies ever. I have to rectify this.

A Brad Bird film. I've already circled Jine 15 on my calendar for when Incredibles 2 comes out.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (pV/54)

94 89 Warner Brothers' DC comics straight to DVD movies are pretty good.

Have a soft spot for the Robotech series from the 80s that took several unrelated Japanese series and linked them together for an American re-imagining.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 20, 2018 07:11 PM (6n332)

Jah, agreed.

The animated Suicide Squad is much better than the movie (apart from Margot Robie's bod), and it tells a better story in half the time of the live action abortion.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (xJa6I)

95 I used to like the cartoon shorts between intermissions at the movies. And the little food thingamabobs that would march around and tell you to get goodies at the snack bar.

Do they still do intermissions?.....another lost piece of our once civilized world.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (EoRCO)

96 Walt Longmire > Bill Adama

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (hMwEB)

97 I don't care what anyone says I like Fantasia. It's perfect.

Posted by: freaked at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (UdKB7)

98 "Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal
yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK
EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)



I also love that movie. Last gasp of grown up animation in the US...even if it's more 'teenaged boy' than 'grown up'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"

And Bruce Willis' character in Fifth Element is a takeoff of the taxi driver in Heavy Metal. And the "Orb of Evil" storyline.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (w+Jhj)

99

The early years of Disney animated feature films are probably the benchmark for animation. All done by hand and they are breathtaking. Snow White and The Seven Dwarves on the big screen is a revelation. Unearthly good.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:14 PM (qGuLD)

100 Iron Giant is too sad for kids

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:14 PM (hMwEB)

101 33 was the first episode of the series proper. Everything before was the miniseries pilot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (Jj43a)

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OK, thanks.

Posted by: Javems at January 20, 2018 07:14 PM (pkU+3)

102 >>new one

it's free on amazzon prime

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I was a big fan of that in the day. I got into that more than any other show, I think before, and haven't since and probably won't.

I've got the whole thing on DVDs. But I got so mad at the ending, I haven't wanted to rewatch it. I will someday I think, but that ending just made me want to airlock Ron Moore.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 07:14 PM (8O3HH)

103 92 When I was growing up, movie animation was the Disney movies from the 90s.

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Wait, so you're saying you really are 29?
Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2018 07:12 PM (BiLU+)

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32.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:15 PM (Jj43a)

104 25
Also damm Peter Jackson to hell for Lord of the Rings. Just rereading the books. He needs to be drowned in his own shit.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 20, 2018 06:54 PM (56LWv)

I need to reread them again.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 07:15 PM (8iiMU)

105 And Bruce Willis' character in Fifth Element is a takeoff of the taxi driver in Heavy Metal. And the "Orb of Evil" storyline.


Heh! I caught that the first time I saw Fifth Element.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:15 PM (peJQi)

106 102
I've got the whole thing on DVDs. But I got so mad at the ending, I haven't wanted to rewatch it. I will someday I think, but that ending just made me want to airlock Ron Moore.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 07:14 PM (8O3HH)

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I love the ending. It actually says two diametrically opposed things. The first is said by Baltar in his speech, but the second is told dramatically throughout the course of the episode. It's a wonderfully complex ending of ideas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:17 PM (Jj43a)

107 Oh man, any fans of The last Unicorn? I loved the book by Peter S. Beagle as a lass and I think the animated version is a very very faithful adaptation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-UpwWauZ50

It's very Rankin-Bass but I like it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)

108 Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)

I also love that movie. Last gasp of grown up animation in the US...even if it's more 'teenaged boy' than 'grown up'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (xJa6I)


Hell yeah, great movie.

STERRRNNNNNNN

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:17 PM (aMlLZ)

109 39
"April Showers" from Bambi;

https://tinyurl.com/y7m2t7w4

Old school animated water.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 06:58 PM (3DZIZ)

Very nice, thanks for sharing that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:17 PM (xJa6I)

110 12 Strong: "The story of the first Special Forces troops into Afghanistan is told
simply and accurately. Though once again, it seems like just about
every military wife is a ball-cutting bitch......"

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -

LOL. when 9/11 happened, and when i called my wife to tell her i'd likely have to go to Afghanistan immediately.... her reply was, "Just kill the bastards." that has become our sort of inside joke.

Posted by: lurkingdude at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (XHKtF)

111 Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal
yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK
EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)

I've never seen it.

But I love BOC.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (8iiMU)

112 108 Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)

I also love that movie. Last gasp of grown up animation in the US...even if it's more 'teenaged boy' than 'grown up'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:10 PM (xJa6I)


Hell yeah, great movie.

STERRRNNNNNNN
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:17 PM (aMlLZ)

"Hangin's too good for him! Burnings too good for him!"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (xJa6I)

113 when 9/11 happened, and when i called my wife to tell her i'd likely have to go to Afghanistan immediately.... her reply was, "Just kill the bastards." that has become our sort of inside joke.
Posted by: lurkingdude at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (XHKtF)

Good on you both!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (xJa6I)

114 89 Warner Brothers' DC comics straight to DVD movies are pretty good.

--

I'm waiting for "Gotham By Gaslight" movie to come out.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (ANIFC)

115 Williams' process, though, is exacting and ever-expanding, which translated to a ballooning budget and production schedule, angering the studio so much that they eventually took the film from Williams and gave it to a bond company to finish.

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I keep reading stories about film projects that went over budget so the studio just shut it down or the director was forced to release it in a truncated form.

Why do I never read the same about government projects? Maybe Trump should appoint some studio bosses to head up some agencies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (/qEW2)

116 "snow white and the seven dwarfs".

sure, it's cis-gendered and the singing is dubbed (as well as the seven dwarfs!), but it still surprises with beautiful effects. there was absolutely nothing like it before, no precedent or craft to rely on. & it succeeds brilliantly.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (Pg+x7)

117 Don't worry, Charlie...I've got an angle.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (NWiLs)

118 I saw Heavy Metal the first time at a drive in when it came out. What a trip. I think it was a double with Kentucky Fried Movie.

Posted by: freaked at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (UdKB7)

119 Hey everybody. TJM, have you (or any of the cobs) ever done a movie thread all about coming-of-age movies?

I could spend an entire afternoon here just singing the praises of Breaking Away. Such a great flick.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (eMKNe)

120 YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH THE HIGHLANDER SERIES

Posted by: ROB GRONKOWSKI at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (YwGz6)

121 107 Oh man, any fans of The last Unicorn? I loved the book by Peter S. Beagle as a lass and I think the animated version is a very very faithful adaptation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-UpwWauZ50

It's very Rankin-Bass but I like it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)

I saw Last Unicorn at the Cinerama in Seattle. It had a live interview with Beagle.

It has some very good stuff in it, but also a lot of Schmedrick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (xJa6I)

122 >> Plus, nekid women!

You know, I can come to like anything that has hot nekkid womyns in it.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (8O3HH)

123 115 I keep reading stories about film projects that went over budget so the studio just shut it down or the director was forced to release it in a truncated form.

Why do I never read the same about government projects? Maybe Trump should appoint some studio bosses to head up some agencies.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (/qEW2)

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Movies are expected to make a profit. Governments are not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:20 PM (Jj43a)

124 The Incredibles was a great movie.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 07:20 PM (hyuyC)

125 Also I've mentioned this before, but I watched The Sting last weekend.

It's true, Robert Shaw was such a fantastic actor. I'm surprised it didn't become a nationwide fad for a while to end every sentence with "ya folla?" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:21 PM (eMKNe)

126 Astro Boy

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 07:21 PM (hMwEB)

127 98 "Animation wise; has anybody mentioned Heavy Metal
yet. Love the animation and the soundtrack is the GREATEST SOUNDTRACK
EVAH!! Plus, nekid women!

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:09 PM (peJQi)



I also love that movie. Last gasp of grown up animation in the US...even if it's more 'teenaged boy' than 'grown up'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"

And Bruce Willis' character in Fifth Element is a takeoff of the taxi driver in Heavy Metal. And the "Orb of Evil" storyline.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:13 PM (w+Jhj)

That I did not know, though I could see it.

In that case, Bruce should have banged LeeLoo way earlier in that flick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:21 PM (xJa6I)

128 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

I first read Mrs. Brisby and the Rats of Nimh back in about 5th grade. Didn't see the movie til years later and loved it equally.

Posted by: Son of Sam the butcher at January 20, 2018 07:21 PM (VJBq9)

129 Rankin-Bass???

I've been wanting to get a copy of Mad Monster Party on DVD forever. I should probably do it before it goes out of print. (The blu-ray did go OOP and is already priced outrageously at Amazon.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:22 PM (eMKNe)

130 Why do I never read the same about government projects? Maybe Trump should appoint some studio bosses to head up some agencies.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (/qEW2)

Steve Mnuchin(?) is a Hollywood producer. I remember the liberal outrage du jour when he recommended people see "Lego Batman" because that was grounds for impeachment or some shit.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 07:22 PM (ANIFC)

131 "Why do I never read the same about government projects? Maybe Trump should appoint some studio bosses to head up some agencies."

California high speed rail won't even be direct to DVD.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:23 PM (pV/54)

132 99

The early years of Disney animated feature films are probably the benchmark for animation. All done by hand and they are breathtaking. Snow White and The Seven Dwarves on the big screen is a revelation. Unearthly good.
Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:14 PM (qGuLD)

If you get the chance, see 'My Neighbor Totoro' on the big screen. Also hand-drawn, breathtaking in places.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:23 PM (xJa6I)

133 A neat callback in Finding Nemo is when the whale coughs them up a) he looks like Monstro from Pinnochio and b) they play the opening bars of Whale of a Tale from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 07:23 PM (3DZIZ)

134 128 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

I first read Mrs. Brisby and the Rats of Nimh back in about 5th grade. Didn't see the movie til years later and loved it equally.
Posted by: Son of Sam the butcher at January 20, 2018 07:21 PM (VJBq9)

Cool.

I've read the book too.

A lot of folks seem to hate one or the other and I never understood that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)

135 132
If you get the chance, see 'My Neighbor Totoro' on the big screen. Also hand-drawn, breathtaking in places.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:23 PM (xJa6I)

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I was originally going to wow about Ponyo, but I couldn't find a good clip of it's opening, so I did the Secret of Kells instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:24 PM (Jj43a)

136 "Steve Mnuchin(?) is a Hollywood producer."

It's a hobby. How to meet hot women, like his new wife.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:24 PM (pV/54)

137 "The Incredibles was a great movie.

Posted by: NaCly Dog"


'Honey, where is my Super Suit?'

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:24 PM (w+Jhj)

138 "Hangin's too good for him! Burnings too good for him!"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (xJa6I)


he should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried aliiiivve

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:25 PM (aMlLZ)

139 @74 everything I know about opera I learned from Bugs Bunny.
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Kill da wabbit!

Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (fqOFI)

140 I keep reading stories about film projects that went over budget so the studio just shut it down or the director was forced to release it in a truncated form.

Why do I never read the same about government projects? Maybe Trump should appoint some studio bosses to head up some agencies.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 07:19 PM (/qEW2)

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Well there was the A-12, B-2, F-22, and Zumwalt-class in defense procurement. Not to mention two iterations of a new amphib personnel carrier for the Marines etc,etc,,,etc.

Or anything NASA started in the last two decades.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (giT7q)

141 There is a Van Gogh movie recently out made of 70,000 frame-by-frame oil paintings (by a bunch of different artists). A real labor of love. Looks like it's something else.

Posted by: Mega at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (rv0Fo)

142

Must mention "Yellow Submarine". Distinctive and trippy.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (qGuLD)

143 135 132
If you get the chance, see 'My Neighbor Totoro' on the big screen. Also hand-drawn, breathtaking in places.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:23 PM (xJa6I)

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I was originally going to wow about Ponyo, but I couldn't find a good clip of it's opening, so I did the Secret of Kells instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:24 PM (Jj43a)

Ponyo is odd. Some scenes I like a lot but other sequences and the story overall just bumped me. Maybe it was Liam Neeson's voice.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (xJa6I)

144 His name is Paul! I've rented him for the weekend!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (9tO1t)

145 I was a big fan of the illustration books Heavy Metal, wish I had them but was in England at time and not sure they came home with me. But love that art style and see it in figures at the Miniature Page

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:26 PM (aC6Sd)

146 Movie animation?

The Pink Panther was its own genre. Never have pre-credits drawn so much attention.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 07:27 PM (YFnq5)

147 The Incredibles is far and away my favorite of the modern animated movies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:27 PM (bNbo2)

148 138 "Hangin's too good for him! Burnings too good for him!"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:18 PM (xJa6I)


he should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried aliiiivve
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:25 PM (aMlLZ)

Heh.

*Cues up 'Reach Out'*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:27 PM (xJa6I)

149 Some of my favorite Disney animation are the short features, especially the Goofy ones where dozens of Goofys do things like play baseball.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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There is a Disney animation (may have been a project short) not to be widely released of The Matchstick Girl. I hadn't ever read the short story by Hans Christian Andersen so the ending was a complete shock to me. A very well done project but it tore my guts out and I boo-hoo'd like a teenaged girl.

Just really hit me for some reason.

Took the granddaughters to see Paddington 2 today at a newly renovated movie house. It was terrific for the younger crowd. However, the previews for upcoming releases beforehand were appalling. Ostensibly for young children, the trailers were full of fart and sex jokes and double entendres. Not child friendly at all.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 07:27 PM (tr2D7)

150 @81 I like Taran Wanderer the most, I think.
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Taran Wanderer would probably cause real fits with the scriptwriters of today, since that's the book that completely cuts out Eilonwy (except maybe for cameos at the start and/or finish).

Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:28 PM (fqOFI)

151 The Great Owl was badass.

"Whooo are yoooo?"

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 07:28 PM (3DZIZ)

152 Gah, wife wants to hit the gym.

I'd better go, too. But heh, made it to the thread for once!

Take care folks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:28 PM (xJa6I)

153 Another good one is "The Secret World of Arrietty".

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:28 PM (w+Jhj)

154 John Candy as Dor: She had most amazing eyes!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:28 PM (bNbo2)

155 Guys... I am tired. For the last time tonight, I'll offer my own email, so as to pass-on the P.O. Box for Northernlurker.

home made gravy 71 (alloneword) at the Hooya dot com.

Please pass this along the Back Channels so I can let everyone know about the simplest way to send a check or a money order.

You ALL have my permission to send my email along, so as to raise money for our Brother.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at January 20, 2018 07:28 PM (Ckg4U)

156 No Claymation films or shorts?

I can't even.....

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 07:29 PM (jeefx)

157 Thanks, TJM.

When I was growing up, movie animation was "Bambi Meets Godzilla." j/k

I'm embarrassed to admit I fell asleep during my first attempt to watch "Fantasia"; I might have been exhausted from work at the time.

Looking forward to watching The Recobbled Cut of "The Thief and the Cobbler" (looks great, and that's interesting about having Vincent Price's performance in the can for years) as well as The Secret Of Kells -- neither of which I'd previously known existed.

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2018 07:29 PM (BiLU+)

158 Brad Bird hadn't intended to be the final voice of Edna Mode, the fashion lady in The Incredibles but it came out too well.

She's a take-off on Edith Head who won eight Oscars for costumes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:29 PM (pV/54)

159 Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 07:27 PM (tr2D7)

The Matchstick Girl. Totally with you there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:30 PM (bNbo2)

160 Likewise in themes, Japanese animation kept on telling stories adults might like long after Warner and Disney had pretty much abandoned that.
Starships, battle suits, sexy girls, sex itself even, sword fights, ninjas, fireballs, cyberware...Japan kept on making interesting stories that weren't directed at kids....until the late 90's when every protagonist got turned into a teenager. Grr.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

I once watched a pre-war Jap cartoon (1940?) about a little island in the Pacific where the peaceful natives are all doing their thing when the American Mickey Mouses shows up with black bat wings and attack the island and bomb them until the heroic Japs show up and defend them from such unwarranted aggression.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2018 07:30 PM (EoRCO)

161

I can't get into "modern" computer animated stuff. It just looks plastic and void of life. With one exception... The Toy Story films. For some reason it WORKS... the style of animation actually suits a story as seen from the perspective of children's toys.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:30 PM (qGuLD)

162 And ya gotta have some love for "Up", just for the whole Squirrel! bit.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:31 PM (w+Jhj)

163 I would stay on this thread, but I must join the neighborhood burial detail. The bodies are piling up fast out in the street. We may have to turn to large pyres.

On the upside, the NPS will not hamper our cutting of firewood in the National Forest.

Posted by: Armageddon, not the movie at January 20, 2018 07:32 PM (5OO3x)

164 I watched one called Evangelion recently that I found at the library after another Moron mentioned an old movie/show and this new updated version.

The animation was absolutely mindblowing, and I don't think there was much computer generated with it. I could be completely wrong, of course, but it looked a like meticulously hand-drawn cartoon that would've taken tens of thousands of man hours.

Random grab that isn't even particularly special:

https://tinyurl.com/q6otfma

Just the clouds and shadows and detailed cities were incredible, and then there were these intricate (giant) robots and monsters and the people involved. It was amazing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:33 PM (ks6bw)

165 162 And ya gotta have some love for "Up", just for the whole Squirrel! bit.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:31 PM (w+Jhj)

Good movie, but easily the most gut-wrenching first ten minutes I've ever seen. The themes of loss and obsession were very interesting.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:33 PM (NWiLs)

166 One of my favorites is Bolt. The last scene gets me every time.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:33 PM (2DOZq)

167 Hate animation, never liked cartoons much. Loved the LOTR movies probably because I never read the books. Husband reads the books every year and wasn't happy with the movies.

Posted by: Abby at January 20, 2018 07:33 PM (YS7Pk)

168 "Brad Bird hadn't intended to be the final voice of Edna Mode, the fashion lady in The Incredibles but it came out too well.



She's a take-off on Edith Head who won eight Oscars for costumes.

Posted by: Ignoramus"

Until now I'd always thought that was Robin Williams. Damn.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:34 PM (w+Jhj)

169 Song of the South > Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 07:34 PM (jeefx)

170 "Brad Bird hadn't intended to be the final voice of Edna Mode, the fashion lady in The Incredibles but it came out too well.

Fine, dahling, I fix the hobo suit.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:34 PM (NWiLs)

171 Does anyone remember Clutch Cargo? It was animated stills with only the jaws moving. Weird, but we watched it cuz only three channels and moving cartoons were in short supply. Watched Roy Rogers, Rin Tin Tin, and Sky King serials.
Posted by: Puddin Head
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I thought I hallucinated Clutch Cargo.

You're old Puddin Head.

Oh yeah, get off my yard.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (tr2D7)

172 "Good movie, but easily the most gut-wrenching first
ten minutes I've ever seen. The themes of loss and obsession were very
interesting.

Posted by: Insomniac"

My wife started bawling when we first watched it because of our own troubles with that exact same problem.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (w+Jhj)

173 Seven of those classic Disney shorts are available on a DVD called Melody Time. I have that one and amazon is still selling it. unfortunately it is being priced far too high for a DVD now.


No pic visible at Amazon so here is the one from Disney.


http://tinyurl.com/ybuvmslo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (mpXpK)

174 The Lego movies use computer animation exactly how they should. The first one was great even though it has Will Ferrel in it. The Batman one is very clever, too. Even the Ninjago one is worth seeing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (ks6bw)

175 I am in the minority but I really disliked Up. Maybe Ed Asher's commie assholishness soaked through his voiceover.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (2DOZq)

176
I wonder if the animation for "The Thief and the Cobbler" was done in Eastern Europe.

It shares to same sterile anti-entertainment feel of those old Tom and Jerry cartoons made in Europe cuz it was much cheaper.

Hard to imagine Tom and Jerry laugh-free and boring. Welp, brother they managed it.

No doubt that TTaTC was technically a hand drawn marvel, but I found it completely entertainment free.

Maybe if I saw it from the beginning...but there was no attempt at all to let us feel what the Thief(?) was feeling or how, why, and where it was happening....just geometrical psychedelica.

Like Richard Williams was trying to achieve the animator's equivalent of the Stargate scene from 2001...only with less purpose.

Meh on Eastern European animators.(if that's who did it).

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 07:36 PM (9q7Dl)

177 Good movie, but easily the most gut-wrenching first ten minutes I've ever seen. The themes of loss and obsession were very interesting.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:33 PM (NWiLs)

Yup. Pixar movies are very good at telling the story of humanity through animation. Up is my second-favorite modern animated film, after the Incredibles. The Toy Story films are third.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:36 PM (bNbo2)

178 Literally a crime to leave off the Claymation classic of Fantastic Mr. Fox.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 07:36 PM (jeefx)

179 I can't get into "modern" computer animated stuff. It just looks plastic and void of life. With one exception... The Toy Story films. For some reason it WORKS... the style of animation actually suits a story as seen from the perspective of children's toys.
Posted by: otho
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Same here. In spite of all of the swell computer generated this or that, it sooner or later seems either too one dimensional, or too detailed. Neither fish nor fowl.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (5OO3x)

180 Somehow didn't see Who Framed Rodger Rabbit till last year, I liked it

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (aC6Sd)

181
Another distinctive and trippy flick... "Fantastic Planet".

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (qGuLD)

182
I used to like the cartoon shorts between intermissions at the movies. And the little food thingamabobs that would march around and tell you to get goodies at the snack bar.

Let's all go to the lobby

https://youtu.be/40cT6I21JV4

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (IqV8l)

183 32.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 20, 2018 07:15 PM (Jj43a)

===========

Interesting. I think I've watched a lot of movies in my lifetime (now 56), much more than the average American, and your catalog seems much more extensive, so I assumed you were older.

I remember you originally noting that you did watch a tremendous number of movies weekly. Not sure what your occupation is but, assuming not film-related, it'd be neat if you could somehow utilize your extensive movie knowledge to meld with and capitalize on your passionate avocation for movies.

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (BiLU+)

184 The Toy Stories look like toys. It's not hyperrealistic.

Pixar movies can fail for me when they push realism too much, because it will often be off and fail. I thought that about Coco. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Toy Story 3 is perfection, because of the script and the well-voiced characters that developed over the series.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (pV/54)

185 I always liked Despicable Me. Dude drives around in a big obnoxious fire belching ozone melter and don't give a rat's ass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:38 PM (aMlLZ)

186 Skip, you can watch cowboy bebop on a free streaming service called Tubi.

Posted by: Thursby at January 20, 2018 07:38 PM (WVn9a)

187 Wallace and Gromit, any of them, but especially 'The Wrong Trousers'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:38 PM (5OO3x)

188 Ratatouille is a laugh riot, and has some really great animation to boot.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:38 PM (w+Jhj)

189 I would give a link to some of the hallucinogenic animation from Superjail! but it is gleefully revolting and would upset those of a delicate constitution.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:38 PM (qJtVm)

190 Good movie, but easily the most gut-wrenching first ten minutes I've ever seen. The themes of loss and obsession were very interesting.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:33 PM (NWiLs)



Yeah, I felt a bit sucker punched. Cuz I drag the kids in to see a fun Disney cartoon and I'm crying like a baby.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 07:39 PM (9q7Dl)

191 Despicable Me also one of my favorites.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:39 PM (2DOZq)

192 127:In that case, Bruce should have banged LeeLoo way earlier in that flick.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards



Well he did "try" and nearly got his head blown off.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:39 PM (peJQi)

193 No anime tentacle porn reviews?
You people are freaks!

Posted by: kurt von eichenwald at January 20, 2018 07:39 PM (ewxPW)

194 I got nothing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 07:40 PM (/SISC)

195 Fractured Fairytales.

Are they available on DVD?

Posted by: pogomip at January 20, 2018 07:40 PM (uUGkr)

196 What no Puppetmation?

Posted by: Kermit the Frog at January 20, 2018 07:40 PM (jeefx)

197 I also like The Beavis and Butthead movie .

I am Cornholio!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:41 PM (2DOZq)

198 You can use cats to become ghosts to assist for the purposes of home burglaries? Nice.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 07:41 PM (/qEW2)

199 Sorry for the OT but quick question. I moved the pork butt and belly from the smoker to the oven as they had not reached quite 200 in the center.

Here's my question, can I just leave the thermometer in the meat in the oven, or should I poke it in at intervals?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:41 PM (WbIyz)

200 Tubi will look that up.
I have watched Girls und Panzer twice, want to see the movie but don't do Netflix.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:41 PM (aC6Sd)

201 I am in the minority but I really disliked Up. Maybe Ed Asher's commie assholishness soaked through his voiceover.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (2DOZq)


Yeah it took me a little bit to get over that. Great movie, but why that bastard was cast is beyond me. Maybe they needed that dickishness to come through.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (aMlLZ)

202 Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:41 PM (WbIyz)

That's what she said.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (2DOZq)

203 I finally got to see Valerian last week: a movie I'd waited for months to see because I missed it in theaters. It came out at the same time as Dunkirk, which booked all the IMAX theaters, and so shut Valerian out of it's natural venues.

I have to say, it was a disappointment. It was visually sumptuous, yes, but the plot and especially the casting were so bad that it spoiled the whole thing. The chick with the eyebrows, of which I am normally a big fan. couldn't act, but that was okay because neither could the leading man.

But the eyebrows......like two caterpillars on her face.

Anyway, as I said, a disappointment. CGI simply isn't a substitute for plot and acting skill.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (LAe3v)

204 181
Another distinctive and trippy flick... "Fantastic Planet".
Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (qGuLD)

Rene Laloux, n'est ce pas? He was really weird.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (NWiLs)

205 Let's all go to the lobby

https://youtu.be/40cT6I21JV4
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 07:37 PM (IqV8l)

Cool! Thanks BC Jr.! I haven't seen that in ages.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (EoRCO)

206 195 Fractured Fairytales.

Are they available on DVD?



If you can find the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show on DVD, it should be on it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (peJQi)

207 I have only bought 30 DVDs my entire life and Real Genius was one of them. Val Kilmer is hysterical, and William Atherton plays a great asshole just like in Die Hard.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 20, 2018 07:43 PM (rdl6o)

208 119 qdpsteve

Breaking Away is a fantastic movie.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 07:43 PM (hyuyC)

209 175
I am in the minority but I really disliked Up. Maybe Ed Asher's commie assholishness soaked through his voiceover.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (2DOZq)

You are not alone. I hated Up and could not even watch it all the way through.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 20, 2018 07:43 PM (mpXpK)

210 208 119 qdpsteve

Breaking Away is a fantastic movie.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 07:43 PM (hyuyC)

I second that.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (2DOZq)

211 Haven't seen 'Darkest Hour' yet, any naysayers?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (5OO3x)

212 >>Must mention "Yellow Submarine". Distinctive and trippy.

Oh yes, and "The Point." The 70's, trippy indeed...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (W+vEI)

213 Wallace and Gromit, Shaun the Sheep, and Timmy Time for the little ones.

If you've got kids, they're all safe and very, very smart. Timmy Time is a good show for the pre-K crowd, too. You'll see why when you watch.

I marvel at claymation as it is, but those shows are so ridiculously clever that it's like getting two scoops for the price of one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (ks6bw)

214 I am in the minority but I really disliked Up. Maybe Ed Asher's commie assholishness soaked through his voiceover.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (2DOZq)

You are not alone. I hated Up and could not even watch it all the way through.
Posted by: Vic
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Me three.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (w1zJX)

215 201 I am in the minority but I really disliked Up. Maybe Ed Asher's commie assholishness soaked through his voiceover.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:35 PM (2DOZq)


Yeah it took me a little bit to get over that. Great movie, but why that bastard was cast is beyond me. Maybe they needed that dickishness to come through.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM (aMlLZ)

They needed a bitter, cranky old man so they hired one.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (NWiLs)

216 All animation shows and movies of all ratings can be found here to stream for free online.

Kimcartoon dot me

You're welcome you filthy animals.

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (jeefx)

217 >>Breaking Away is a fantastic movie.

Thirded

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (W+vEI)

218 Fractured Fairy tales YouTube
https://youtu.be/E4ikEBaMOBE

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (aC6Sd)

219 "I have only bought 30 DVDs my entire life and Real
Genius was one of them. Val Kilmer is hysterical, and William Atherton
plays a great asshole just like in Die Hard.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter"

And Ghostbusters.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (w+Jhj)

220 anybody's comments getting rejected because it looks like spam?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (dKiJG)

221 Speaking of Rocky and Bullwinkle, the movie they did some years ago was nicely done, funny and silly. Plus Rene Russo and Piper Perabo (pre-orthodontia, you know, when she was cute).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (bNbo2)

222 210 208 119 qdpsteve

Breaking Away is a fantastic movie.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 07:43 PM (hyuyC)

I second that.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (2DOZq)

Cutters.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (NWiLs)

223 Rene Laloux, n'est ce pas? He was really weird.


Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:42 PM


Oui! Tres etrange!

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (qGuLD)

224 I don't know if there is a animated scene that comes close to being better than Bambi becoming a man. Okay a buck . Whatever , you know what I mean.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

225 220 anybody's comments getting rejected because it looks like spam?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (dKiJG)

They don't look pinkish and spongy to me.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (NWiLs)

226 Punch the clock Moocher!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (pV/54)

227 Akira was hand drawn.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (dKiJG)

228 Here's my question, can I just leave the thermometer in the meat in the oven, or should I poke it in at intervals?

--

Unless it's a special design (remote monitoring), check it infrequently. Lookin' ain't cookin'.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (ks6bw)

229 "Me three.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

Heya Mike. Starting to thaw out a bit, eh?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (w+Jhj)

230 196 What no Puppetmation?
Posted by: Kermit the Frog at January 20, 2018 07:40 PM (jeefx)
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Comet TV had a Thunderbirds movie (Thunderbirds 6 -- in Supermarionation!) on and the amount of work that went into the sets alone was epic. Very groovy 60's.

But the laughing puppets are creepy as f.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7W9a9tNhvA

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (qJtVm)

231 anybody's comments getting rejected because it looks like spam?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018

Yes. It happens to me a lot.

Posted by: Thursby at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (WVn9a)

232 "Up" was weird. They should've stopped after the first 10 minutes - that was so sweet and heart-breaking!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (W+vEI)

233 Breaking Away is a fantastic movie.
Thirded
Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (W+vEI)

Refund! Refund?!....Refund?!

A classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (EoRCO)

234 Thanks everybody.

Besides "REFUND?!?!?", another great line/scene from Breaking Away:

"Don't forget to punch the clock!" ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:47 PM (eMKNe)

235 Ignoramus beat me to it. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (eMKNe)

236 I have tried to copy something to link it once or twice and got a That looks like spam message from Pixy before

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (aC6Sd)

237 Do you get excited about power steering, seat belts, or air conditioning anymore?

I remember when none of those things were standard on cars.

Hell, I even remember window cranks. I didn't even want power windows. I figured it's just another thing to break.

Lawn. Get off it.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

238 Unless it's a special design (remote monitoring), check it infrequently. Lookin' ain't cookin'.


My question is Will it harm the thermometer? It's one of the analog metal and glass ones.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (WbIyz)

239 Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:46 PM (NWiLs)

Oui pere.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (2DOZq)

240 Thumbs down on UP

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2018 07:49 PM (/SISC)

241 Those remote monitoring thermometers are great, btw. It's nice to grill, smoke, or bake everything to absolute perfection every single time.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:49 PM (ks6bw)

242 Superjail is like dropping the brown acid.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 20, 2018 07:49 PM (89T5c)

243 Another great bit is when the dad (played by Paul Dooley) peeks into the bathroom, and catches his Italian-speaking, bike-obsessed son...

shaving his legs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:49 PM (eMKNe)

244 I am worried about the new Legend of Galactic Heroes, it doesn't look as good

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:49 PM (dKiJG)

245 I have watched Thunderbird 6 and Thunderbirds Are Go on Comet, those puppets crack me up

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:49 PM (aC6Sd)

246 I love the Penguins of Madagascar. I'll DVR episodes when I see they'll be on.

Posted by: jsg at January 20, 2018 07:50 PM (YwGz6)

247 Heya Mike. Starting to thaw out a bit, eh?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Yup. Still, we'll have to wait and see what Punxsutawney Phil says. I ain't packing away the long undies yet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:50 PM (c/EDo)

248 Val Kilmer is hysterical, and William Atherton
plays a great asshole just like in Die Hard.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter"

And Ghostbusters.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (w+Jhj)

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at a certain point you wonder if it isn't acting. always reminds me of Jeffery Jones (Principal from Ferris Bueller)

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 20, 2018 07:50 PM (vChNs)

249 Chicken Run is one of my all time favorites. The POW in Stalag-land homage really seals the deal for me.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (hyuyC)

250 Breaking Away had a great cast. Only Dennis Quaid went on to a big career. Sad.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (pV/54)

251 211 Haven't seen 'Darkest Hour' yet, any naysayers?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (5OO3x)

It was fairly well-lit and lasted around two hours. Flagrant false advertising.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (ANIFC)

252 249 Chicken Run is one of my all time favorites. The POW in Stalag-land homage really seals the deal for me.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (hyuyC)


Their coop? Number 17.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (NWiLs)

253 Wow, the second Secret of Kells clip was very powerful. I may have to watch that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (/qEW2)

254 >>at a certain point you wonder if it isn't acting. always reminds me of Jeffery Jones (Principal from Ferris Bueller)


Heh - my hubby's friend is a cameraman and yes, that guy is (was?) a jerk.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (W+vEI)

255 220 anybody's comments getting rejected because it looks like spam?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:45 PM (dKiJG)

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add more egg sausage and bacon

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (vChNs)

256 Darkest Hour is excellent. Absolutely gorgeous film. Maybe the most surprising aspect was the respect they paid to the audience, who they counted on to know the extensive history behind the story. The movie also worked as a profile in acting, even without knowing history. I liked it more than The King's Speech, which is saying a lot.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (YFnq5)

257 Trying to comment on the new S t a r b l a z e r s and it keeps getting rejected? I like it, stays true to the original.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (dKiJG)

258 My question is Will it harm the thermometer? It's one of the analog metal and glass ones.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (WbIyz)


--

I've never considered it, but, while it possibly won't harm it, I suspect the exposed metal would just make it begin to read the cooking/air temperature a minute or two after you close the oven door.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (ks6bw)

259 Breaking Away had a great cast. Only Dennis Quaid went on to a big career. Sad.


Young Walter Kovacs was in that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (WbIyz)

260 254 >>at a certain point you wonder if it isn't acting. always reminds me of Jeffery Jones (Principal from Ferris Bueller)


Heh - my hubby's friend is a cameraman and yes, that guy is (was?) a jerk.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (W+vEI)

Didnt he get popped for child pr0n?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (NWiLs)

261 I hurled watching the first one.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (4CCz5)

262 250 Breaking Away had a great cast. Only Dennis Quaid went on to a big career. Sad.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 07:51 PM (pV/54)

Bad News Bears guy was the only one that had a hit beforehand. The other guy at least is seen every Christmas.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (2DOZq)

263 Masses of women - all exhibiting the emotional stability and maturity of 13 year olds playing "Mean Grrl" - were out protesting Trump today. It never occurs to these women that were he or the GOP any of the things the protesters claim they are that the protesters would all be on the way to Auschwitz, or gunned down in the streets by the Gestapo. As I remember, Germany - during the reign of the actual Nazis - just didn't have all that many protest marches.


Posted by: An Observation at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (9wsMY)

264 Ignoramus, Dennis Quaid made it big, but Daniel Stern didn't do badly either.

Also, Moocher was played by Jackie Earle Haley, who went on to have an interesting career, to say the least.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (eMKNe)

265 My question is Will it harm the thermometer? It's one of the analog metal and glass ones.
Posted by: Grump928
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So, a real thermometer? I believe that it can be left in the meat. I'm not the last word on this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (c/EDo)

266 TJM, what about Beauty and the Beast in the 90s Disney oeuvre?

My son debuted the same year the movie did, so we didn't see it until it was on VHS. Frankly, I liked it more than he did. It may me cry many times.

One of my co-workers with a kid the same age thought it was kinda creepy because it's a romance with an animal. Yeah, ok, that is kind of weird.

Now that he's grown, the brat takes me to movies. He took me to see Coco, which we both loved. He doesn't know though, that our family will probably be facing a "remember me" situation this year.

Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (6HFDU)

267 Unless it's a special design (remote monitoring), check it infrequently. Lookin' ain't cookin'.

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another rejected motto for youpron

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (vChNs)

268 Chicken Run is very funnny

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:53 PM (aC6Sd)

269 Oh yes, and "The Point." The 70's, trippy indeed...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:44 PM (W+vEI)
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LOVE "The Point".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAkmmZZdAsM

LSD was mandatory for animators back then.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 07:54 PM (qJtVm)

270 156 No Claymation films or shorts?

I can't even.....

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 07:29 PM (jeefx)


Here's a claymation short film shot in IMAX format called, "More." I bought the DVD from Despair, Inc. many years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCeeTfsm8bk

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2018 07:54 PM (NL6wI)

271 257 Trying to comment on the new S t a r b l a z e r s and it keeps getting rejected? I like it, stays true to the original.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (dKiJG)

"Bl azers" gets rejected, don't know why.

And what new "StarBl azers?"

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (ANIFC)

272 I have seen very little of newer Disney movies, no Little Mermaid or Lion King none of them. I do like Monsters Inc

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (aC6Sd)

273 237 Do you get excited about power steering, seat belts, or air conditioning anymore?

I remember when none of those things were standard on cars.

Hell, I even remember window cranks. I didn't even want power windows. I figured it's just another thing to break.

Lawn. Get off it.
Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

Somehow I found a 2013 Nissan Frontier with none of the bells and whistles. Hand-cranked windows, manual door locks, six-speed manual (the 4-hi and 4-lo are run by a switch on the dashboard, alas; but I guess it beats locking the hubs manually), and a very basic radio/CD player. Love it. this is the last vehicle I will ever buy just for me. it was also the first that I bought just for me (it was always what's best for the family in the past).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (bNbo2)

274 254 >>at a certain point you wonder if it isn't acting. always reminds me of Jeffery Jones (Principal from Ferris Bueller)


Heh - my hubby's friend is a cameraman and yes, that guy is (was?) a jerk.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 07:52 PM (W+vEI)

My girlfriend insisted Dwight Yokum had to be an abuser in real life after we saw Sling Blade.

I guess that could be a compliment.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (2DOZq)

275 Didnt he get popped for child pr0n?
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable


I hid his stash for him.

Posted by: Chevy Chase at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (eMKNe)

276 As a kid, I didnt realize what fabulous animation I was seeing. Anything Loony Tunes, expecially the older ones from the 30s. Bugs Bunny and opera-my favorite!

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 20, 2018 07:56 PM (prxs+)

277 "Bl azers" gets rejected, don't know why.



There in lies a tale.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:56 PM (WbIyz)

278 I saw "Totoro" when it first came out in Japan while I was with the Navy.

The thing that hooked me was the TV commercial for it.

They took the quietest scene from the movie, the standing under the umbrella in the rain scene and just let it play out until Totoro jumps and makes the rain water fall off the trees' leaves. Then the title and out.

Wonderfully Japanese commercial with the quiet and simple esthetic.

I had to see the movie.

And like everyone else fell in love with Miyazaki anime.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 07:56 PM (9q7Dl)

279 Watched Moana. Was missing something. Watched Lilo & Stitch. Ah, there it is: storytelling.

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 07:56 PM (dwBLr)

280 Not a movie but the genious of Merrie Melodies and especially Bugs Bunny is pure gold.
My favorite animated song to a short for Horde enjoyment listed below...my personal favorite Bugs line in the song:

("...Whirl, whirl, twist and twirl,
jump all round like a flyin' squirrel.
Now don't you cuss and don't you swear,
just come right out and form a square..."

https://tinyurl.com/yca63dha

Posted by: texcat at January 20, 2018 07:56 PM (wf3RQ)

281 rickl and pug, I recently took a look at a brand-new 2018 model Chevrolet Spark, their lowest-end car, and probably the absolute cheapest new car on the market in the entire US of A right now.

Still has crankshaft windows, standard.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:57 PM (eMKNe)

282 "Bl azers" gets rejected, don't know why.


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Old commenter. Stricken from the record.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:57 PM (ks6bw)

283 272 I have seen very little of newer Disney movies, no Little Mermaid or Lion King none of them. I do like Monsters Inc
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (aC6Sd)

They used the same trick in Monsters Inc as they did in Despicable Me to get soft hearted macho guys to like it.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:57 PM (2DOZq)

284 Texican, was Moana a non-stop PC/SJW clusterfark?

That's the vibe it gave me, big-time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:57 PM (eMKNe)

285 Hans Conried was genius.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 07:58 PM (YFnq5)

286 His name was stricken from every book and tablet, stricken from all pylons and obelisks, stricken from every monument of Egypt.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:58 PM (WbIyz)

287 Somehow I found a 2013 Nissan Frontier with none of
the bells and whistles. Hand-cranked windows, manual door locks,
six-speed manual (the 4-hi and 4-lo are run by a switch on the
dashboard, alas; but I guess it beats locking the hubs manually), and a
very basic radio/CD player. Love it. this is the last vehicle I will
ever buy just for me. it was also the first that I bought just for me
(it was always what's best for the family in the past).

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (bNbo2)


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I'm honestly jealous. I looked for something similar a few years ago and it was impossible to find.

It's hard to beat a truck that allows you to use a waterhose to clean out the interior.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:59 PM (ks6bw)

288 279 Watched Moana. Was missing something. Watched Lilo & Stitch. Ah, there it is: storytelling.
Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 07:56 PM (dwBLr)

But didn't the Rock do a great job singing You're Welcome?

Someone linked that part here a couple of days ago.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

289 They may be all Commies today but Canada's National Film Board had great animators as in the award-winning "Faces" linked below.

As Gingy can confirm all of us growing up in the '60s and '70s all watched these as fillers between early-morning TV shows. I got her crying a bit out of nostalgia once after linking several of them once.

Feel free to check out the sidebar links too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fJPyGIQzU

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 07:59 PM (ewxPW)

290 Imagine how banned you are when your name is forbidden in the code!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 07:59 PM (WbIyz)

291 @271

I asked about that odd banned word the other day (for much the same reason). Apparently someone used to post here under that name. And they made themselves persona non grata.

Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 07:59 PM (cSguU)

292 My favorite little thing in Lilo and Stitch was when the little alien was on trial and said something so revolting (in his gibberish language) that a robot vomited nuts an bolts.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM (qJtVm)

293 The last season of Samurai Jack, made last year, is phenomenal

https://youtu.be/qQXpd1GIV1Q

https://youtu.be/YDiN9w_Min4

Seven assassin "sisters" hunt Jack. He had killed one in the previous episode.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM (rnAwa)

294 My son and I really loved the animated series "Harold and the Purple Crayon." It's in color once he starts his adventures (unlike the books). Sharon Stone narrated and it's lovely.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM (W+vEI)

295 Just looked it up. Breaking Away got a nom for Best Picture Oscar, but lost to the quite forgettable Kramer v Kramer. Apocalypse Now also got snubbed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM (pV/54)

296 In the criminally underappreciated actor department:

Herbert Lom, as Inspector Clouseau's mindbendingly put-upon boss Dreyfus in the Pink Panther films. OMG.

IMHO two of the Pink Panther sequels, Return of the Pink Panther and The Pink Panther Strikes Again, are far funnier than any other of the PP series, as well as so many other films of the time. Maybe at least partially because they were directed by the great Blake Edwards.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (eMKNe)

297 It's hard to beat a truck that allows you to use a waterhose to clean out the interior.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 07:59 PM (ks6bw)

Ideal for eliminating trace evidence.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (NWiLs)

298 He's banned as banned can be ya know.

Posted by: Ed Blaserly at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (UdKB7)

299 If the recipe for pork belly says to "cut across the grain", does that mean so it looks like bacon? Or the other way?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (WbIyz)

300
Lawn. Get off it.
Posted by: rickl
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I had an '64 Chevelle 300 Deluxe. The *only* options were a cigarette lighter and an AM radio. Just plain rubber flooring. No day/night rear view mirror, no backup lights, no nuthin.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (cp1if)

301 Fractured Fairy tales YouTube
https://youtu.be/E4ikEBaMOBE
Posted by: Skip

Thankyouthankyouthankyou!!!!!11!!

Posted by: pogomip at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (uUGkr)

302 http://www.thediplomad.com
Good quick read on shutdown and congressional memo

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (aC6Sd)

303 i refuse to let my wife watch UP, because we too were going thru what they did. Someone pointed out that they could have adopted.

The beginning of Finding Nemo the family gets massacred

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (dKiJG)

304 Ignoramus, yup.

There's also a lot of people who still can't believe Raging Bull lost Best Picture in 1980 to... Ordinary People.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (eMKNe)

305 296 In the criminally underappreciated actor department:

Herbert Lom, as Inspector Clouseau's mindbendingly put-upon boss Dreyfus in the Pink Panther films. OMG.

IMHO two of the Pink Panther sequels, Return of the Pink Panther and The Pink Panther Strikes Again, are far funnier than any other of the PP series, as well as so many other films of the time. Maybe at least partially because they were directed by the great Blake Edwards.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:01 PM (eMKNe)

Shot in The Dark in my favorite. And Lom is side-splitting in that one.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (ANIFC)

306 Kramer v Kramer was dreck. If they released it today, however, it would be titled, "She knew!"

Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (YFnq5)

307 Grump928(C), I hope the pork belly turns out for you. I've tried a couple of times, one wet and one dry, and neither really suited me. I was too cheap to keep buying what is a fairly pricey cut of meat just to be disappointed in it.

I've seen someone say that cutting them up into chunks and smoking them in a pan of butter and sauce is a good technique, so I might give that a shot at some point.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (ks6bw)

308 "Breaking Away" is a great movie.

Pretty much a perfect movie - great script, great acting, unobtrusive yet dead on directing and hilarious to boot.

It doesn't get much better than that.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (9q7Dl)

309 295 Just looked it up. Breaking Away got a nom for Best Picture Oscar, but lost to the quite forgettable Kramer v Kramer. Apocalypse Now also got snubbed.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM (pV/54)

Just one more reason I absolutely loathe the Oscars. Pure, unadulterated circle-jerk action.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (bNbo2)

310 There are still commenters who where here on the ONT when Bl*zer was drunk posting unto his demise.

I was sleeping so I missed it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:03 PM (WbIyz)

311 I should probably try to get myself banned for a few days - - to help my street cred.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2018 08:03 PM (Sfs6o)

312 Just looked it up. Breaking Away got a nom for Best Picture Oscar, but lost to the quite forgettable Kramer v Kramer. Apocalypse Now also got snubbed.


Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM


Yep.. AND Alien. Think about it. In 1979 KVK got the nod over both Apocalypse Now and Alien.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:03 PM (qGuLD)

313 281 rickl and pug, I recently took a look at a brand-new 2018 model Chevrolet Spark, their lowest-end car, and probably the absolute cheapest new car on the market in the entire US of A right now.

Still has crankshaft windows, standard.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 07:57 PM (eMKNe)


Huh. I bought as 2014 Mazda5 new, base model, which was so cheap I was able to write a check for it. It had power windows, as well as all kinds of other gimcracks I never had before.

Oh well, I've gradually gotten used to it. And I was able to use "gimcracks" in a comment, so there's that.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 08:04 PM (sdi6R)

314 My son and I really loved the animated series "Harold and the Purple Crayon." It's in color once he starts his adventures (unlike the books). Sharon Stone narrated and it's lovely.
Posted by: Lizzy


I read about that. Great flick but Stone drove the audio crew crazy the whole time she was sitting recording, because she wouldn't stop crossing her legs. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:04 PM (eMKNe)

315 As I remember, Germany - during the reign of the actual Nazis - just didn't have all that many protest marches.


Posted by: An Observation


**cough**

Posted by: Nuremburg rallies at January 20, 2018 08:04 PM (LAe3v)

316 Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2018 06:51 PM (fuK7c)

If it was a donkey, it was probably for Pinocchio.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 08:04 PM (2kiKp)

317 Pink Floyd: The Wall movie had some interesting animated sequences.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (/qEW2)

318 josephistan, is that the one where Lom lights the cigar that explodes in his face?

naturalfake, agreed 100%.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (eMKNe)

319 I'm a big, big Gravity Falls fan and one of the reasons is the mind-blowing WTFuckery of Weirdmageddon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xUxgN4oEE

This was on a kid's show.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (qJtVm)

320 @312

Alien was sci-fi, though. And when it came out, sci-fi was still considered a 'non-serious' genre. No way that Alien was going to win.

Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (cSguU)

321 Kramer vs Kramer maybe should not have won the Oscar but I thought it was a pretty good movie. Definitely a subject that was something new for the movies.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (2DOZq)

322 Huh? What? What time is it? I'm banned?

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (Tyii7)

323 I finally was able to rent Bladerunner 2049 this week; I had been anticipating this greatly because I have been a huge fanboy of the original from the moment I first saw it back in a theater. I understand the criticisms now; first, I do have to say that they were as faithful as possible to the feel of the original, and that this was a plausible extension of the storyline for that world.

But there was something missing - and I realize what it was. The first movie is ostensibly about Deckert (Harrison Ford) but the true emotional heart of that film is the spiritual and emotional journey of Rutger Hauer. The original Bladerunner starts with Roy Batty portrayed as almost a kind of Terminator (super strong, built to be a warrior, no remorse, no inhibitions about killing) and then at the end, you realize he mourns his dead too, he has good reasons to fight his oppressors, and in fact he may be far more moral than those who are hunting him - More Human than Human, as Tyrell says. That journey is what makes the original so emotionally fulfilling.

2049 was a good story, but K (Jo) was not that character. He was a newer version of Deckert, who admittedly was rather wooden and one dimensional in the first film, too. The hyper-strong woman who works for Walker who plays the "big bad" in the fights in 2049 is exclusively one dimensional - no development, and she dies, still nothing more than a biological machine. A Boring character, overall.

I liked it, overall, and thought it was a valiant effort, but not nearly as good as the first. Oh, and the only times the sound track in the second really shone was when they repeated the Vangellis motifs from the first - I will always maintain that the original Bladerunner has one of the best musical scores of any movie ever made, in any era.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (V2Yro)

324 295 Ignoramus

Kramer v Kramer was a forgettable movie, except behind the Iron Curtin.

It was shown in Poland to emphasize the decaying USA and the absolute rot in the Free World. But the Polish audience were mesmerized by the standard of living, the kitchen appliances, the wealth, shown in that movie. It was very influential in undermining Soviet rule.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (hyuyC)

325 318 josephistan, is that the one where Lom lights the cigar that explodes in his face?

naturalfake, agreed 100%.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (eMKNe)

Not sure about the exploding cigar, but he does cut off his thumb with a cigar cutter. And has one of his best lines "Give me 10 men like Clousseau and I can destroy the world."

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (ANIFC)

326 321 Kramer vs Kramer maybe should not have won the Oscar but I thought it was a pretty good movie. Definitely a subject that was something new for the movies.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (2DOZq)

I did like Author Author better though.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

327 So the moral of the story is not much good comes from 2am?

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 08:07 PM (aC6Sd)

328 319 I'm a big, big Gravity Falls fan and one of the reasons is the mind-blowing WTFuckery of Weirdmageddon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xUxgN4oEE

This was on a kid's show.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (qJtVm)

Gravity Falls was awesome.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 08:07 PM (NWiLs)

329 Some of my favorite cartoons are the early Popeye and others from the 30s. They were well done as to the animation and clever. Lots of action, even in the background. I even like the little mouse who sleeps in a matchbox and has a spool of thread for a night stand. There are a few, brief bits in 'Roger Rabbit' about that era.

As much as I like 'The Incredibles', and I do, the appeal isn't the animation as much as clever dialog and voice overs. Modern animation doesn't impress me as much as the older stuff I mentioned.

'Fantasia' is in its own category and I never tire of it. But for animated movies of my childhood, the winner was 'Sleeping Beauty', especially after Maleficent turned into the dragon.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2018 08:08 PM (V+03K)

330 There's also a lot of people who still can't believe Raging Bull lost Best Picture in 1980 to... Ordinary People.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (eMKNe)



I think "Ordinary People" won for the first few minutes of the movie.

Seriously. That opening was genius. Scenes of an all-American town and people going about their business while a child's choral version of Pachelbel's Canon plays in the background.

You just settle into the movie mood sighing with contentment.

And then it turns into a lame-ass soap opera with Mary Tyler Moore acting a bitchy. UGH.


But, those first few minutes....movie perfection.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 08:08 PM (9q7Dl)

331 320 @312

Alien was sci-fi, though. And when it came out, sci-fi was still considered a 'non-serious' genre. No way that Alien was going to win.
Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (cSguU)

It still is. "Return of The King" is the only "genre" film to win best picture in my memory. I guess "Silence of The Lambs" is horror, and it won BP.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 08:08 PM (ANIFC)

332 I love Blade Runner seen it over a dozen times and will get to the new version sooner or later.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (aC6Sd)

333 my vote for best weird insane animation to ever show up in a kids show is Invader Zim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgX2cu9N6_8

every time I see that, I think "damn that animator was WARPED!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (V2Yro)

334 307 Grump928(C), I hope the pork belly turns out for you. I've tried a couple of times, one wet and one dry, and neither really suited me. I was too cheap to keep buying what is a fairly pricey cut of meat just to be disappointed in it.

I've seen someone say that cutting them up into chunks and smoking them in a pan of butter and sauce is a good technique, so I might give that a shot at some point.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:02 PM (ks6bw)
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This is the movie thread, not the porn thread!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (qJtVm)

335 Not sure about the exploding cigar, but he does cut off his thumb with a cigar cutter. And has one of his best lines "Give me 10 men like Clousseau and I can destroy the world."
Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (ANIFC)

Yup....I laughed just reading your post remembering that.

Another classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (EoRCO)

336 naturalfake, yup.

And, Robert Redford directing. I think most of the Oscar voters fell in love with the movie, just based on that phrase alone.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (eMKNe)

337 "Bl azers" gets rejected, don't know why.

And what new "StarBl azers?"

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (ANIFC)


========

There's a hack to get around it, cut and paste the following:

bla<x>zer

So blazer.

In any case Starblazers was a kiddie show, like Voltron, not really an animated movie.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (/qEW2)

338 >>I read about that. Great flick but Stone drove the audio crew crazy the
whole time she was sitting recording, because she wouldn't stop crossing
her legs. ;-)


Aw, this is a show for 5 year olds!
It's just such a sweet and funny cartoon amidst so much PC and snark in kids shows nowadays.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 08:10 PM (W+vEI)

339 317 Pink Floyd: The Wall movie had some interesting animated sequences.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (/qEW2)

++++

The vaginas are out to get you.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 20, 2018 08:10 PM (FUu/Z)

340 Has anyone mentioned Heavy Metal?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:11 PM (WbIyz)

341 JTB, I was just discussing the early Popeye shorts with a friend at FB a few days ago.

Yes, they were great but some of those cartoons were EXTREMELY dark, such as the one titled "Happy Birthdaze," which ends with Popeye shooting a depressed friend to death.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:11 PM (eMKNe)

342 @312

Alien was sci-fi, though. And when it came out, sci-fi was still considered a 'non-serious' genre. No way that Alien was going to win.


Posted by: junior at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM


One would think they'd learned with 2001. In any event, if they were serious about the awards and it wasn't just giving prizes to favourites (which it is, of course)... they'd take into account ART. Apocalypse Now and Alien are both monumental cinematic works of art. KVK is not.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:11 PM (qGuLD)

343 Cool

Posted by: Ed blazer at January 20, 2018 08:12 PM (UdKB7)

344 I know it's sacrilegious to criticize Monte Python (i am a YUGE MP fan), but i always thought the animations were fillers to stretch the show/movies. i just didn't like them.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 08:12 PM (YFnq5)

345 My favorite little thing in Lilo and Stitch was when the little alien was on trial and said something so revolting (in his gibberish language) that a robot vomited nuts an bolts.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:00 PM (qJtVm)

Oh, lol, I'd forgotten that part. That's a great movie. I remember the clueless galactic authorities were trying to prevent mosquitoes from becoming extinct on earth.

For years I used a plush Stitch doll to camouflage the gun I keep in the bedroom.

Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 08:12 PM (6HFDU)

346 StarBl azers 2199 or Yamato 2199 is an updated version from a tv show from the eighties now it has better graphics and animation. Stays true to the original and the original was from the late seventies early eighties so it was really showing its age. They were smart enough keep the original music. They tweaked it but not a lot. Others should follow the example.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 08:12 PM (dKiJG)

347 Yes, they were great but some of those cartoons were EXTREMELY dark, such as the one titled "Happy Birthdaze," which ends with Popeye shooting a depressed friend to death.


I believe that Shaddap!, the one where a drunken Popeye beats Olive Oyle unconscious, was only played one time in the theaters.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:13 PM (WbIyz)

348 I think eventually they'll be some sort of "monumental legendary achievement" award at the Oscars, so that they can start going back and giving movies that *should* have won the Best Picture Oscar, Oscars.

I do *not* believe that if many of those (older) voters could do it all over again, they would have given away all the Oscars to all the same pictures, again.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:13 PM (eMKNe)

349 Has anyone mentioned Heavy Metal?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:11 PM (WbIyz)


--

#METALTHREAD!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (ks6bw)

350 323: I will always maintain that the original Bladerunner has one of the best musical scores of any movie ever made, in any era.


Agreed. The music and the movie were symbiotic. Perfection! Lots of great Vangelis scores out there but Bladerunner was the best of the bunch. Haven't seen 2049 yet. I'm going to soon though. I'm tempering my expectations. I'm a bit of a fanboy of Bladerunner.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (peJQi)

351 I was obsessed with Invader Zim. I have them all on DVD.

hard to pick a favorite, but the Germs one is pretty close to the top. "So...much...filth":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai0_IlBWSlY

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (qJtVm)

352 339 317 Pink Floyd: The Wall movie had some interesting animated sequences.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 20, 2018 08:05 PM (/qEW2)

++++

The vaginas are out to get you.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 20, 2018 08:10 PM (FUu/Z)

Don't be fatuous.

Posted by: Maude Lebowski at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (ANIFC)

353 Has anyone mentioned Heavy Metal?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:11 PM (WbIyz)



I did. Upthread.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (peJQi)

354 Grump, oh brudder. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (eMKNe)

355 There's also a lot of people who still can't believe Raging Bull lost Best Picture in 1980 to... Ordinary People.

-
I heard that they're going to remake Ordinary People but change the name to The Deplorables.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (+y/Ru)

356 Yes, they were great but some of those cartoons were EXTREMELY dark, such as the one titled "Happy Birthdaze," which ends with Popeye shooting a depressed friend to death.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:11 PM (eMKNe)

Reminds me of Alice the Goon. Absolutely horrific character. I've had nightmares about Alice the Goon.

"I love Popeye"

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (bNbo2)

357 333 my vote for best weird insane animation to ever show up in a kids show is Invader Zim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgX2cu9N6_8

every time I see that, I think "damn that animator was WARPED!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:09 PM (V2Yro)


YOU LIKE ICE CREAM. YOU LIKE ICE CREAM. YOU LOVE IT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBbNUbknh6k

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (NL6wI)

358 Fun Trivia about Shot in the Dark: Blake Edwards came across the script when it was just a rather prosaic Agatha Christie type whodunit, very formulaic. He had let Peter Sellers do his own thing in the first PP movie (David Niven was supposed to be the star, and supposedly was extremely upset that he got upstaged in the final cut) So, Blake Edwards had the idea of doing the Detective Story pretty much as written, but to cast Clouseau as the detective and then just let Peter Sellers improvise his way through almost every scene. And then Blake added in some comedy gold like Elke Summers and Clouseau in a nudist colony.

I've rewatched that, and in some of the group scenes you can see the other actors put a hand over their faces, trying to stop from cracking up on film, since no one knew what Sellers was going to do next.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (V2Yro)

359 I think "Ordinary People" won for the first few minutes of the movie.

Seriously. That opening was genius. Scenes of an all-American town and people going about their business while a child's choral version of Pachelbel's Canon plays in the background.

You just settle into the movie mood sighing with contentment.

And then it turns into a lame-ass soap opera with Mary Tyler Moore acting a bitchy. UGH.


But, those first few minutes....movie perfection.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 08:08 PM (9q7Dl)



Ordinary People is tedious and full of itself just like Redford. The only reason to watch is for Elizabeth McGovern who was very cute. The rest of them needed a good thrashing.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (SiINZ)

360 my vote for best weird insane animation to ever show up in a kids show is Invader Zim:


Invader Zim was so-o-o-o-o great.

Believe it or not, the reason Invader Zim got cancelled was.......911!

The Nickelodeon a-holes said such a violent show wasn't appropriate on a children's network after 911.

At least, that was the public version.


I'm guessing the animation cost a lot and wasn't always delivered "on time".

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (9q7Dl)

361 Pug Mahon, there's TONS of stuff in a lot of those early cartoons that would give the PC police literal fatal convulsions.

I'm not very PC and even *I* look at them and find myself going "WTF!!!" more often than not.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:16 PM (eMKNe)

362 Cliff Calvin Trivia.

The guy who discovered spinach contains iron misplaced a decimal point in his calculations so that it was thought it contained 10 x more than it really did. Thus why people and Popeye thought it was the super food.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:16 PM (2DOZq)

363 Ice Cream is for closers. Just finished a big bowl of Reese's Chocolate in celebration of closing on our new property.

Now if we can just get the last tenant to finish getting his crap off the property.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 08:17 PM (R5lpX)

364 When I say Disney, I mean the real ones, Pinocchio, Dumbo, etc. And Pinocchio was the best of all.

Of the later, the only one I had much use for was the Mermaid, and that for only one scene. I like the part where the chef was chasing and trying to kill her little shrimp friend. It hit me while watching, that the whole style was more Warner Looney Tunes than the Disney I knew.

But for the most part, I can live without the later stuff. But then, I'm an old fart.

(And once again, how is the internet up, if the government has shut down? And without net neutrality, at that. There's something funny going on. If I didn't know better, I suspect that Chuck, Nancy, and CNN were lying to me. But of course, that could not happen.)

Posted by: George LeS at January 20, 2018 08:17 PM (+TcCF)

365
And then Blake added in some comedy gold like Elke Summers and Clouseau in a nudist colony.



Dead? Do Do?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2018 08:17 PM (SiINZ)

366 Hey @James Madison

A post on animated movies and no mention of the Iron Giant? What gives?

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 20, 2018 08:17 PM (0YSzp)

367 Weren't some of the all-time best Ren & Stimpy cartoons from the 1990s somewhat un-PC, even for that time?

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:18 PM (eMKNe)

368 10 x more IRON.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:19 PM (2DOZq)

369 I like the part where the chef was chasing and trying to kill her little shrimp friend.

==

Le Poisson, le poisson, how I LOVE le poisson

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at January 20, 2018 08:19 PM (hMwEB)

370 >>>> Lilo and Stitch<<<<

I have always thought Stitch was inspired by somebody's Blue Heeler.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 08:19 PM (3DZIZ)

371 Heavy Metal had one of the best soundtrack ever. And boobies.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (6Ll1u)

372 Best animated show of all time is without question King of the Hill.

There is not a subject that show has not addressed.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

373 344 I know it's sacrilegious to criticize Monte Python (i am a YUGE MP fan), but i always thought the animations were fillers to stretch the show/movies. i just didn't like them.
Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 08:12 PM (YFnq5)


Nah, I disagree. The animations were great.

Come to think of it, the only time I would agree with you was in "Holy Grail". But even then they were funny. "Bloody weather!"

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (sdi6R)

374 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 07:55 PM (bNbo2)

So 2013s have a 6 speed stick. New ones only a 5-speed.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (2kiKp)

375 Weird insane cartoon creature...?

The Master Cylinder.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2018 08:22 PM (scP6Z)

376 "344 I know it's sacrilegious to criticize Monte Python (i am a YUGE MP fan), but i always thought the animations were fillers to stretch the show/movies. i just didn't like them."

When I was 14, I thought those were the funniest animations I had ever seen in my life, I loved them. Now, when I see them, I can't quite remember why I used to like them so much.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:22 PM (V2Yro)

377 Oh, crap! I'd forgotten all about the new little Mickey Mouse shorts.

Pure genius. Three or four minutes long, Pete has a pegleg again and is an actual bad guy, etc. I wonder if the people involved in Renn and Stimpy had a hand in them.

I had a hard time figuring out which one to link. They're all enjoyable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE-4RzDLZck

(It was either this or Yodelberg)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:22 PM (ks6bw)

378 Tom Servo, your comment reminds me: has anyone here ever seen the Kids In The Hall movie, Brain Candy?

Have heard it was hilarious.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:23 PM (eMKNe)

379 323 I finally was able to rent Bladerunner 2049 this week; I had been anticipating this greatly because I have been a huge fanboy of the original from the moment I first saw it back in a theater. I understand the criticisms now; first, I do have to say that they were as faithful as possible to the feel of the original, and that this was a plausible extension of the storyline for that world.

But there was something missing - and I realize what it was. The first movie is ostensibly about Deckert (Harrison Ford) but the true emotional heart of that film is the spiritual and emotional journey of Rutger Hauer. The original Bladerunner starts with Roy Batty portrayed as almost a kind of Terminator (super strong, built to be a warrior, no remorse, no inhibitions about killing) and then at the end, you realize he mourns his dead too, he has good reasons to fight his oppressors, and in fact he may be far more moral than those who are hunting him - More Human than Human, as Tyrell says. That journey is what makes the original so emotionally fulfilling.

2049 was a good story, but K (Jo) was not that character. He was a newer version of Deckert, who admittedly was rather wooden and one dimensional in the first film, too. The hyper-strong woman who works for Walker who plays the "big bad" in the fights in 2049 is exclusively one dimensional - no development, and she dies, still nothing more than a biological machine. A Boring character, overall.

I liked it, overall, and thought it was a valiant effort, but not nearly as good as the first. Oh, and the only times the sound track in the second really shone was when they repeated the Vangellis motifs from the first - I will always maintain that the original Bladerunner has one of the best musical scores of any movie ever made, in any era.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:06 PM (V2Yro)

The Greatest opening sequence of a movie I have ever seen. If you watch the 5th Element they have the same actor selling noodles to Bruce Willis


I think it was mentioned that Soldier with Kurt Russell was set in the same universe as Blade Runner.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 08:24 PM (dKiJG)

380 Come to think of it, the only time I would agree with you was in "Holy Grail". But even then they were funny. "Bloody weather!"
Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (sdi6R)
----
God: Every time I try to talk to someone it's "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy"...

God: What are you doing now?

King Arthur: Averting our eyes, oh Lord.

God: Well, don't. It's just like those miserable psalms, they're so depressing. Now knock it off!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:25 PM (qJtVm)

381 "I know it's sacrilegious to criticize Monte Python
(i am a YUGE MP fan), but i always thought the animations were fillers
to stretch the show/movies. i just didn't like them.


Posted by: goatexchange"

They were mostly to link together different sketches.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 08:26 PM (w+Jhj)

382 I want to see 12 Strong and also Churchill, if Mrs. E can work those into her schedule. She's in Dallas at Native American Music concert tonight , while I work. Whhhh??

Posted by: Eromero at January 20, 2018 08:26 PM (zLDYs)

383 Tom Servo, your comment reminds me: has anyone here ever seen the Kids In The Hall movie, Brain Candy?

Have heard it was hilarious.


Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:23 PM


Saw it a long time ago. I recall that it was good, but... I have a recollection that it wasn't as funny as the regular episodes.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:26 PM (qGuLD)

384 Invader Zim was fun. There's also too much weirdness on Adult Swim to account for it all, but I'm reminded of a little zen buddha guy with a long multicolor beard who used to say "banananana."


Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:27 PM (ks6bw)

385 378 Tom Servo, your comment reminds me: has anyone here ever seen the Kids In The Hall movie, Brain Candy?
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I did, and I liked it. It got atrocious reviews.

One of my favorite skits from this or any show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYJyeX-oMc

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:27 PM (qJtVm)

386 If y'all haven't seen this it is hilarious: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ My_Neighbors_the_Yamadas

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 08:27 PM (dwBLr)

387 "God: Every time I try to talk to someone it's "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy"...



God: What are you doing now?



King Arthur: Averting our eyes, oh Lord.



God: Well, don't. It's just like those miserable psalms, they're so depressing. Now knock it off!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes"


King Arthur: Good idea oh Lord!

God: Of course it's a good idea!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 08:27 PM (w+Jhj)

388
Weird insane cartoon creature...?

Coily the spring sprite.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 08:28 PM (IqV8l)

389 I saw 12 Strong today. I recommend.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 20, 2018 08:28 PM (xzV6l)

390 Not sure if I've mentioned this before but-

"The Future Diaries" is an excellent anime series.

full of twists and surprises.

It skirts horror but doesn't quite go that far except in an existential way.

It's been recently released on blu-ray with the OVA, which was made to make sure fans understood what had happened at the end.

The only down side (like everything now)is a gay side story that really doesn't have anything to do with anything necessary, but it's mostly a minor annoyance.

Anyway, it's also on crunchroll but without the OVA so....pay attention.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 08:29 PM (9q7Dl)

391 So 2013s have a 6 speed stick. New ones only a 5-speed.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (2kiKp)

That was the one feature that stuck for me. It's a sweet tranny. IYKWIM

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:29 PM (bNbo2)

392 O/T Even MSNBC has figured out that Schumer is lying about his back and forth with Trump about the wall in their meeting. Schumer offered Trump $1.6B when he knew Trump wanted at least $18B, which was an insult that blew up negotiations. Schumer is now deflecting and lying about this.

Schumer can't let Trump get a wall, else his Brooklyn home will get surrounded by insane Lefties until the end of time.

Hence the impasse.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:30 PM (pV/54)

393 >>>>Chicken Run is one of my all time favorites<<<<

"I don't want to be a pie! I don't like gravy."

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 08:30 PM (3DZIZ)

394 Kids in the Hall movie - have to say that I missed it. May have to search it out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:30 PM (V2Yro)

395 I saw 12 Strong today. I recommend.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 20, 2018 08:28 PM (xzV6l)

Cool. Read the Horse Soldiers book. It's good.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:30 PM (bNbo2)

396 Based on this, you leave the meat thermometer in.

http://bit.ly/2mXk9t0

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2018 08:31 PM (WbIyz)

397 388
Weird insane cartoon creature...?

Coily the spring sprite.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 08:28 PM (IqV8l)

No springs!

Posted by: Coily at January 20, 2018 08:32 PM (ANIFC)

398 Based on this, you leave the meat thermometer in.
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*struggles valiantly.....*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:32 PM (qJtVm)

399 For TV animation, we loved Phineas & Ferb. Nothing special about the animation, but the writing was VERY clever. The feature film was great, too.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2018 08:33 PM (akSgU)

400 Does anyone remember KaBlam! with Prometheus and Bob (alien trying to teach caveman basic things) and Action League Now (stop motion sort of He Man action figure comedy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX7yTGqgBOA

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:33 PM (ks6bw)

401 Someone mentioned the Canadian shorts like the Logdriver's Waltz and the Cat that Came back. I think you can see them on Youtube.

They're awesomely funny.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at January 20, 2018 08:33 PM (+Tibp)

402 Other Animations that I loved: The animation wasn't that special, but "Space Ghost: Coast to Coast!" was a show I never missed, and I have all of Harvey Birdman - Attorney at Law on DVD. I grew up on Hanna Barbara in the 60's, the guys who made those shows were just like me.

I used to be able to do a fairly good imitation of Brak. Which is probably something I shouldn't ever tell anyone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:33 PM (V2Yro)

403 Jonny Quest!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:34 PM (pV/54)

404 Saw Darkest Hour.
Very good. Still...could have been better. Old man was great.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2018 08:34 PM (scP6Z)

405 Gilliam's animations are what drew me into MPFC as a wee lad, so they have a special place in my cold, black heart.

There hasn't been much chatter here regarding pure CGI, so I'll throw out a classic short video by Cyriak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX3iLfcMDCw

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2018 08:34 PM (NL6wI)

406 Other Animations that I loved: The animation wasn't that special, but "Space Ghost: Coast to Coast!" was a show I never missed, and I have all of Harvey Birdman - Attorney at Law on DVD. I grew up on Hanna Barbara in the 60's, the guys who made those shows were just like me.

I used to be able to do a fairly good imitation of Brak. Which is probably something I shouldn't ever tell anyone.


Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:33 PM


Did you get that thing I sent you?

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:35 PM (qGuLD)

407 Akira was drawn by hand, they tried to cram too much of the comic into the movie and it didn't really work. Visually stunning movie.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 08:35 PM (dKiJG)

408 OOPs meant to say Hey Oregonmuse

A post on animated movies and no mention of Iron Giant?

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 20, 2018 08:35 PM (0YSzp)

409 "Jonny Quest!

Posted by: Ignoramus"

I still remember the 'Electricity Monster' episode these many years later.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 08:35 PM (w+Jhj)

410 Prometheus and Bob was hilarious! I'd love to have a DVD with all of those clips on it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:35 PM (V2Yro)

411 After how last night's ONT started, I'm not sure I want to focus on animation right now...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 20, 2018 08:35 PM (lLeln)

412 Jonny Quest!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:34 PM (pV/54)

Yup...fun adventure and the good guys always won.

I remember Dr. Quest's plane and sometimes he had a different one than the V-wing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2018 08:36 PM (EoRCO)

413 367 Weren't some of the all-time best Ren & Stimpy cartoons from the 1990s somewhat un-PC, even for that time?
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:18 PM (eMKNe)

Yes! And they were really funny with excellent stories! Ren, an Asthma Hound Chihuahua and
Stimpy (Stimpson J. Cat), the dumbest cat in the world!

Posted by: texcat at January 20, 2018 08:36 PM (wf3RQ)

414 Prometheus and Bob was hilarious! I'd love to have a DVD with all of those clips on it.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Watched it with my kids before school. Or maybe in the evening. I forget. Loved them though.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at January 20, 2018 08:36 PM (+Tibp)

415

The Impossibles

https://youtu.be/0NnGf_ZHcbI

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 08:36 PM (IqV8l)

416 Did you get that thing I sent you?:

LOL!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:37 PM (V2Yro)

417 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai0_IlBWSlY

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:14 PM (qJtVm)


========

We are not amused.

Posted by: H. G. Wells at January 20, 2018 08:37 PM (/qEW2)

418 There was some story about Canadian appliances on a journey. IDK what it was but my little sister was mesmerized by it back in the day.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 08:37 PM (hyuyC)

419 "The bit down the staircase, where the camera swings down? To my eyes, it looks like an early computer background with the characters animated on top of it. It was done by hand."

If you want to see hand drawn animation that looks like CG, back in 1983 Japan held Daicon IV, a sci-fi convention. For that, a few guys working in their basement made an opening animated film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KUsRbMUpEU

Check out the nuclear-blast sequence at 4:33. Not a computer in use.

The people who made this would go on to form Gainax

Posted by: JSchuler at January 20, 2018 08:37 PM (YsGL+)

420

The Super 6

https://youtu.be/UKiSbk48f0I

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 08:38 PM (IqV8l)

421 Star Wars "Tie Fighter" short film. Made by one guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 08:38 PM (w+Jhj)

422 R.I.P. John Candy.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 08:38 PM (ewxPW)

423 Other Animations that I loved: The animation wasn't that special, but
"Space Ghost: Coast to Coast!" was a show I never missed, and I have all
of Harvey Birdman - Attorney at Law on DVD. I grew up on Hanna Barbara
in the 60's, the guys who made those shows were just like me.


---

Same here. It was a very natural progression to Sealab 2021, then to Frisky Dingo (find it if you haven't seen it), then to Archer.

I've enjoyed Bobs Burgers recently, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:39 PM (ks6bw)

424 For fantastic animation, there's the 2009 film "Redline." The story is cliché, but it doesn't matter. It needs to be seen on the largest screen available. Then there is also Masaaki Yuasa's "Mind Game," which is in a freaky class of its own.

My favorite show when I was a kid was Rocky & Bullwinkle, which had some of the cheapest, lousiest animation ever committed to film. Brilliant writing compensates for a lot.

Please, never, ever, ever mention "Cl*tch C*arg*" again.

A thread on movie animation and no mention of Sylvain Chomet? Here are a couple of excerpts from "The Triplets of Belleville."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-KChYBFiB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0VrHQ-cHUA

Posted by: Don at January 20, 2018 08:39 PM (4espk)

425 Posted by: texcat at January 20, 2018 08:36 PM (wf3RQ)

The first season of Ren & Stimpy was the first "WTF? Did I just see that?" cartoon. I couldn't believe they got away with a lot of what they did.

Second and later seasons were toned down a bit too much. I believe the originators were forced out and a new team tried to make it a little too kid-friendly.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 08:39 PM (2kiKp)

426 One of the best Harvey Birdman - Attorney at Law episodes is where Race Bannon sues Dr. Quest for palimony. Dr. Quest tries to deny that they were lovers, but Harvey points out that no one EVER saw either of them with a woman. Or with anybody else, for that matter.

And after you see that, you can never shake the idea that Johnny Quest was the Gayest kid show ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:40 PM (V2Yro)

427 Probably my all-time fave Kids In The Hall sketch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ1pO-tZbYA

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:40 PM (eMKNe)

428 Any fans of Rick and Morty.

Pickle Rick!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:40 PM (pV/54)

429 >>For TV animation, we loved Phineas Ferb. Nothing special about
the animation, but the writing was VERY clever. The feature film was
great, too.

Loved that show! Clever and fun songs - we used to listen to the CD in the car. Squirrels in my pants!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 08:40 PM (W+vEI)

430 I just got back from seeing "The Greatest Showman" for the second time. I rarely go to movies anymore. NEVER do I see them twice.

Dear Hollywood, I really enjoyed watching a coherent story by a talented cast. As a bonus, I LOVED not being preached to, scolded, condescended to, educated, intervened, or involved in a teachable moment. I may go a third time, as the experience was so enjoyable.

Posted by: One at January 20, 2018 08:41 PM (9XizI)

431 Best animated sequence ever -- the opening of "Up".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 20, 2018 08:41 PM (fVubI)

432 and I have all of Harvey Birdman - Attorney at Law on DVD.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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TS, the Harvey Birdman episode with Dr. Quest and Race Bannon in court for a custody hearing over Jonny may in fact be the funniest writing ever.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 08:41 PM (tr2D7)

433 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:39 PM (ks6bw)

Bob's Burgers is great. Same guy who produced KOH. Funny with a non preachy conservative message.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:42 PM (2DOZq)

434 Long ago when I was in Hawaii a coworker showed us an animated short film about a mound of poop that wanted to meet its maker. It went on an epic journey accompanied by an enormous cow fop and a soft serve ice cream cone. It was Japanese (duh) and very funny. It was shown on a local station that showed Japanese fare and my friend was so blown away by it he went down to the station and a tech guy made a VCR tape of it for him.

Does anybody know what this is?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:43 PM (qJtVm)

435 425 Second and later seasons were toned down a bit too much. I believe the originators were forced out and a new team tried to make it a little too kid-friendly.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 08:39 PM (2kiKp)


The same thing happened to Invader Zim years later.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2018 08:43 PM (NL6wI)

436 Anyone who liked Johnny Quest should at least give the Venture Brothers a shot for their take on the genre. Clever comedy and a fun, quick show.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:43 PM (ks6bw)

437 ---
TS, the Harvey Birdman episode with Dr. Quest and Race Bannon in court for a custody hearing over Jonny may in fact be the funniest writing ever.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 08:41 PM (tr2D7)
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Agree.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:43 PM (qJtVm)

438 "Dr. Quest tries to deny that they were lovers, "

That's funny.

When it came out I was 7 or 8 and a proud member of the He-Man Woman-Haters Club.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:44 PM (pV/54)

439 Godzilla v Mothra on Svengoolie.

Godzilla just appeared and is ready to f**k things up!

LOL



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 08:44 PM (8iiMU)

440 "The first season of Ren Stimpy was the first
"WTF? Did I just see that?" cartoon. I couldn't believe they got away
with a lot of what they did.



Second and later seasons were toned down a bit too much. I believe
the originators were forced out and a new team tried to make it a little
too kid-friendly.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer"


When they started selling Stimpy's hairballs I absolutely lost it. But then he horked so many times that his hairball generator broke down.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 20, 2018 08:44 PM (w+Jhj)

441 I used to be able to do a fairly good imitation of Brak.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:33 PM (V2Yro)


Same. It's irresistible.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 20, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)

442 >>>>There was some story about Canadian appliances on a journey<<<<<

The Brave Little Toaster.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2018 08:44 PM (3DZIZ)

443 Cow flop, not cow fop! Totally different image.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:44 PM (qJtVm)

444 Venture Brothers, love that show and it's take on Johnny Quest all grown up and a failed scientist doing the same "Adventures" with his own sons.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (dKiJG)

445 The Ambiguously Gay Duo were funny.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

446 360 my vote for best weird insane animation to ever show up in a kids show is Invader Zim:


Invader Zim was so-o-o-o-o great.

Believe it or not, the reason Invader Zim got cancelled was.......911!

The Nickelodeon a-holes said such a violent show wasn't appropriate on a children's network after 911.

At least, that was the public version.


I'm guessing the animation cost a lot and wasn't always delivered "on time".

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2018 08:15 PM (9q7Dl)

Frank Conniff from MST3k was one of the writers on that show.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (xJa6I)

447 Svengoolie is must-see for me these days...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (lLeln)

448 372 Best animated show of all time is without question King of the Hill.

There is not a subject that show has not addressed.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

*fist bump*

Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (6HFDU)

449 Also very stiff.

Jeez, you skip arm day...mumbly...years and stuff gets all weak.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (xJa6I)

450 418
The brave little toaster

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 08:46 PM (dwBLr)

451 Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 08:39 PM (2kiKp)

I think you're right! My kids loved the show (as did I) and then came Rocko's Modern Life. That was a favorite show of our family at time too!

Posted by: texcat at January 20, 2018 08:46 PM (wf3RQ)

452
And Bruce Willis' character in Fifth Element is a takeoff of the taxi driver in Heavy Metal. And the "Orb of Evil" storyline.


Heh! I caught that the first time I saw Fifth Element.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2018 07:15 PM (peJQi)






Me too.

As I recall, Besson was pretty open about how Heavy Metal influenced Fifth Element, especially the French comic books. Even used some of the same artists, especially Moebius, who was the primary visual influence.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2018 08:46 PM (eXA4G)

453 Roc, true, King Of The Hill is a classic.

I could relate to Hank having a father who's pretty much antisocial and crazy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:47 PM (eMKNe)

454 Venture Brothers, love that show and it's take on Johnny Quest all grown up and a failed scientist doing the same "Adventures" with his own sons.

Something about an entire series where the theme is failure. Some of the best names and ideas for super-villains, too.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 20, 2018 08:47 PM (fVubI)

455 #401 My link at #289 has sidebar links to one of those but you'll be able to find the other through it too.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 08:47 PM (ewxPW)

456 "TS, the Harvey Birdman episode with Dr. Quest and Race Bannon in court for a custody hearing over Jonny may in fact be the funniest writing ever."

We're thinking along the same lines! The episode that is on just about the same level for me is when Harvey Represents the Apache Chief in his suit against the Coffee Shop - they made their coffee too hot, it accidentally spilled into his lap, and now the Apache Chief can no longer "Grow". Since his Special Talent was to Get Large, and that power was controlled by his lap.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:47 PM (V2Yro)

457 453. How dare you! Cotton fought for Texas in WWII!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:48 PM (fA1SL)

458 429 Loved that show! Clever and fun songs - we used to listen to the CD in the car. Squirrels in my pants!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2018 08:40 PM (W+vEI)
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The songs were genius & so catchy! My favorite is "The Yellow Sidewalk" from The Wizard of Oz parody.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2018 08:48 PM (akSgU)

459 Re Ren & Stimpy, I still remember that John Kricfalusi kept getting in all kinds of trouble for never turning in episodes on time.

I believe at one point, the network R&S aired on (don't remember who it was... HBO?) tried to get him fired from his own show, they were so sick of the situation.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:49 PM (eMKNe)

460 I love animation. WB, Disney, Ward -- all of it.

We get a Roku channel, Looney Toons Network. In addition to a lot of Bugs material, it shows early Merrier Melodies and Mighty Mouse. I barely remember MM from my childhood in the '60s, when MM was on TV. Watching them now, I find them to run all over the spectrum from dull to fun. I've also been singing some of them in my head while at work.

I also spent much of a recent day off searching out a WB Clamped short, "Coal Black and de Sebbin Dwarfs." This is one of the so-called "banned" cartoons because of material some see as racist. Found clips on YouTube bit had to sit through diatribes. I liked the wartime attitudes, but then I really like prewar and wartime animated stuff. Tex Avery did a great MGM short, "Blitz Wolf."

Do not like Tom & Jerry or Woody Woodpecker. I root for Tom.

As for more recent work -- Pixar, of course, "Anastasia," and "Cowboy Bebop." OK, maybe not that recent. I intend to try "Archer" because of Moron recommendations. Lots of other stuff to wade through before that, however.

If I had known as a kid that someday I would be able to see practically anything made for TV, I would have pitched fewer fits when my parents' plans forced me to miss a show.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 20, 2018 08:49 PM (G+J43)

461 457 453. How dare you! Cotton fought for Texas in WWII!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:48 PM (fA1SL)

Killed fidy Japs.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:50 PM (2DOZq)

462 I just realized I too have the DVD set of Harvey Birdman. The granddaughters are staying over and I think it's a perfect time to expose then to this higher art form. LOL

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2018 08:50 PM (tr2D7)

463 458. No love for 'There's a Platypus Controlling Me'?

https://youtu.be/nDtzUymj3Ic

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:50 PM (fA1SL)

464

Black and white Popeye

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 08:51 PM (IqV8l)

465 Do not like Tom Jerry or Woody Woodpecker. I root for Tom.

Jerry was an asshole.

And poor Tom was a bit of a dumbass.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 08:51 PM (8iiMU)

466 For "MM" in my earlier comment, read "Mighty Mouse." Hard to edit on this phone.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 20, 2018 08:51 PM (G+J43)

467 329 Some of my favorite cartoons are the early Popeye and others from the 30s. They were well done as to the animation and clever. Lots of action, even in the background. I even like the little mouse who sleeps in a matchbox and has a spool of thread for a night stand. There are a few, brief bits in 'Roger Rabbit' about that era.

As much as I like 'The Incredibles', and I do, the appeal isn't the animation as much as clever dialog and voice overs. Modern animation doesn't impress me as much as the older stuff I mentioned.

'Fantasia' is in its own category and I never tire of it. But for animated movies of my childhood, the winner was 'Sleeping Beauty', especially after Maleficent turned into the dragon.
Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2018 08:08 PM (V+03K)


I love the old Popeye toons, too. One thing that cracks me up are the things Popeye and Bluto mutter.

The "Get a Horse" short has some of that. "Why, I'm gonna knock you inta next week!"

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2018 08:51 PM (di1hb)

468
Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:52 PM (qGuLD)

469 461. 'When I woke up, they were sewing my feet to my knees......'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:52 PM (fA1SL)

470 "344 I know it's sacrilegious to criticize Monte Python (i am a YUGE MP fan), but i always thought the animations were fillers to stretch the show/movies. i just didn't like them."

When I was 14, I thought those were the funniest animations I had ever seen in my life, I loved them. Now, when I see them, I can't quite remember why I used to like them so much.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:22 PM (V2Yro)


========

Come on people. You don't find dancing teeth funny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IRsj0ZwGOM

Gilliam's animations had a really cold, disturbing vibe to them, which is what made them really funny.

Posted by: H. G. Wells at January 20, 2018 08:52 PM (/qEW2)

471 Frisky Dingo appears to be on the youtubes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OIfqpjHok

You'll recognize Ray and Pam from Archer. Others, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 20, 2018 08:53 PM (ks6bw)

472 QdpSteve: I think its been discussed here before but Moana, when I watched it, seemed a little too baldly an attempt to throw together some kind of fake creation myth, plus Disney GirlPower (TM). Its like everything is grist for the theme park mill. When you notice stuff like that the first time through, I think it spells trouble.

However, The Rock is charming and his song is great.

My favorite part of Lilo & Stitch (so many) is the shout out to Lady and the tramp in the dog pound. Cracks me up every time.

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 08:53 PM (dwBLr)

473 468. Number One in the Hood, G!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:53 PM (fA1SL)

474 372 Best animated show of all time is without question King of the Hill.

I am a big Mike Judge fan. But I never liked King of the Hill, much as I wanted to. I really did want to.

But it never, ever hooked me. Great lines, great stories, great voice acting. And yet, I just did not "get it." I found it tedious.

I accept that this is a flaw on my part.

GO VIKINGS!!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:53 PM (bNbo2)

475

Justice Friends

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2018 08:54 PM (IqV8l)

476 I'm not kidding when I say that KOTH has addressed every subject you can think of.

Would the horde care to try and come up with one?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:54 PM (2DOZq)

477 428 Any fans of Rick and Morty.

Pickle Rick!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:40 PM (pV/54)

forgot the sarc tag?

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 08:54 PM (jeefx)

478 One of the things I've always noticed about the early Popeye cartoons is the dialogue. They had some of the most realistic and inventive dialogue of anything released at the time, and the actors were great at it.

I've sometimes wondered if they recorded dialogue *before* animating, in fact. It was nothing like what you see in so many cartoons (and in fairness, even sitcoms) today, where everyone is so careful about letting every other actor say a line before coming in with his or her response.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:54 PM (eMKNe)

479 I do say this thread every week brings up movies I never seen yet heard of

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 08:54 PM (aC6Sd)

480 442 the guy that moves pianos for a living
450 Texican ette

Thank you. A piece of my sister's childhood is reclaimed. I'll sent it to her.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 08:55 PM (hyuyC)

481 Nope, I like Rick and Morty. Some of what I've seen is brilliant.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 08:56 PM (pV/54)

482 468
Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:52 PM (qGuLD)

Make the homies say "Ho!" and the girlies wanna scream!

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 08:56 PM (NWiLs)

483
Frank Conniff from MST3k was one of the writers on that show.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 08:45 PM (xJa6I)
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Many of the writers ended up as caricatures in the cartoon itself:

http://zim.wikia.com/wiki/File:FrankSaucerMoron.png

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:56 PM (qJtVm)

484 477. To be fair, you have to have a really high IQ......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:56 PM (fA1SL)

485 I have a painter, an old guy who works for me from time to time. He mumbles under his breath constantly, even when he's painting, just like Popeye did. Doesn't matter if no one else is around.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 08:56 PM (V2Yro)

486 Texican ette, hmm, thanks. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 08:56 PM (eMKNe)

487 I am still not tired of winning. Another PDT tweet:

"The Trump Administration has terminated more UNNECESSARY Regulation, in
just twelve months, than any other Administration has terminated during
their full term in office, no matter what the length. The good news is,
THERE IS MUCH MORE TO COME!"



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 08:57 PM (8iiMU)

488 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYJyeX-oMc
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 08:27 PM (qJtVm)

This link went to a series of Foghorn Leghorn cartoons. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 08:57 PM (R5lpX)

489 I was fascinated as a child of the Tom and Jerry episode where they opened up the freezer door and froze the water on the kitchen floor and skated on it. For awhile this 5 year old thought that possible.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 08:58 PM (2DOZq)

490 There's a sequel: Brave Little Toaster Goes to Mars.

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 08:58 PM (dwBLr)

491 how long does the shutdown go on before the Dems cave?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 20, 2018 08:58 PM (vChNs)

492 Best animated show of all time is without question King of the Hill.

I am a big Mike Judge fan. But I never liked King of the Hill, much as I wanted to. I really did want to.

But it never, ever hooked me. Great lines, great stories, great voice acting. And yet, I just did not "get it." I found it tedious.

I accept that this is a flaw on my part.


Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:53 PM


I love KOTH and watch reruns all the time. But, the achilles heel of the show is Hank and Bobby and they're just not that funny. Now, episodes about Dale (doing anything) or Peggy's massive ego and I'm golden. The downturn was the arrival of Lucky. That character sucked the funny out of every scene.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:58 PM (qGuLD)

493 Well, I've survived the shutdown, tax cuts, net neutrality, and withdrawal from the Paris accord. This can mean only one thing.

I AM IMMORTAL!

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2018 08:58 PM (gC2IV)

494
Or, a Cotton Hill episode. Great stuff.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:59 PM (qGuLD)

495 474
I accept that this is a flaw on my part.

GO VIKINGS!!!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 08:53 PM (bNbo2)


I think I spotted your problem.

GO EAGLES!

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

496 463 458. No love for 'There's a Platypus Controlling Me'?

https://youtu.be/nDtzUymj3Ic
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 20, 2018 08:50 PM (fA1SL)

It was a strange set of circumstances.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 08:59 PM (NWiLs)

497 Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 08:57 PM (R5lpX)

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Huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGYJyeX-oMc

It takes me to the KitH sketch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:00 PM (qJtVm)

498 Anyone else catch Wait til Your Father Comes Home? Loved the neighbor who saw Commies under every bush.

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 09:00 PM (dwBLr)

499 otho, true, Bobby was never that interesting.

OTOH the show really hit a goldmine when Khan moved in next door. "Stupid redneck!!" It also was a cute idea to have Bobby and Khanie fall for each other.

There was even a great episode where Khan was trying to prove he wasn't a "banana" to Laotian business bigwigs at the nearby Country Club, which humanized him as a character a bit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:01 PM (eMKNe)

500 "491 how long does the shutdown go on before the Dems cave?"

A long, long time I hope!

Monday - Trump furloughs everyone at the Dep't of Education as non essential personell.
Tuesday - Trump Furloughs the EPA.
Wednesday - Trump furloughs the entire Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
Thursday....

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 09:01 PM (V2Yro)

501 Texican, yup.

That character was sort of a prototype for Dale in KOTH, I believe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:01 PM (eMKNe)

502 Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:58 PM (qGuLD)

Yeah not my favorite but he did have a violent of good episodes. Some of my favorite episodes were with Khan.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)

503 Khans wife was so mean!

Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 09:02 PM (dwBLr)

504 If it was up to me I could hold out for the shutdown a month.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:02 PM (aC6Sd)

505 How did auto correct get violent out of couple?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:02 PM (2DOZq)

506 I'm not much of a fan of movie length animation, probably due to the wall of Disneys the wife had assembled for the chillins (and her, too dontcha know). Yikes. Time to retreat to my burrow once again.

I did the whole Fantasia thing as a teen; first stoned and then a second time on shrooms -- Oooh, the colors! Not worth another repeat.
***************

I watched A Serious Man, a 2009 Coen bros flick about a Jewish math professor and his various troubles -- Entertaining, but soo Jewish religion specific in details that I felt I was only getting one half or even one quarter of the story.

This goy can only give the movie 2.5 stars. On Netflix streaming now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 20, 2018 09:02 PM (0ogQG)

507 otho, true, Bobby was never that interesting.

OTOH the show really hit a goldmine when Khan moved in next door. "Stupid redneck!!" It also was a cute idea to have Bobby and Khanie fall for each other.

There was even a great episode where Khan was trying to prove he wasn't a "banana" to Laotian business bigwigs at the nearby Country Club, which humanized him as a character a bit.


Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:01 PM


Oh, yeah... Khan! Any Khan episode is fantastic too. There's more than enough great stuff in the show to keep me hooked despite finding some characters tedious.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 09:03 PM (qGuLD)

508 Its for the Dreamers so suck it up

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2018 09:03 PM (aC6Sd)

509 494
Or, a Cotton Hill episode. Great stuff.
Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 08:59 PM (qGuLD)

Mr Kahn, my bags!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2018 09:03 PM (xJa6I)

510 I'm a huge animation, although really stylized animation does nothing for me. No desire to see that Kells movie or things like that... But the Don Bluth animated moves--those were awesome! Especially 'Secret of NIMH.' Glorious old-school animation!

Posted by: Castle Guy at January 20, 2018 09:03 PM (Lhaco)

511 505 How did auto correct get violent out of couple?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:02 PM (2DOZq)


I can hardly wait for AI. That will certainly be a hoot.

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 09:04 PM (sdi6R)

512 290 ''Congress' inability to reach a budget agreement is a total abdication of our responsibility to defend the nation and give our service members the resources they need to succeed," McCain said in a written statement.

I've swallowed placebos with more content, but this is better than what he'd been posting when in his, er, prime.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 19, 2018 06:01 PM (6FqZa)

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There's a guy on YouTube doing some great Flash Gordon animation.

Posted by: MAGA at January 20, 2018 09:04 PM (LnOh3)

513 I totally disagree about Hank and Bobby being a flaw in the show. IMO they are the key.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:04 PM (2DOZq)

514 Remember the name of the heavy metal band in KOTH?

"Big Mountain Fudgecake."

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:05 PM (eMKNe)

515 " how long does the shutdown go on before the Dems cave?"

When enough D Senators realize they're vulnerable to a 2018 attack that they don't care about their own states people (especially legal minorities), and are putting illegals first, because they're in thrall to Schmuck Schumer.

I'd say a week.

Schumer now knows that he fucked up, and may be collateral damage, so he'll fight to drag it out. He may lose his leadership position over this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:05 PM (pV/54)

516 I like it when autistic children screech on top of tables in MacDonald's about Szechuan sauce and Pickle Rick.

I guess it's the High IQ retarded strength of Dilly Dilly.

I'm too dumb to be that retarded.

*places gun mouth and pulls the trigger*

Posted by: The Last Man at the CDC at January 20, 2018 09:05 PM (jeefx)

517
431 Best animated sequence ever -- the opening of "Up".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 20, 2018 08:41 PM (fVubI)








Nah, the first 20 min or so of Wall-E.

But I'll grant you, Up is easily #2. The only problem with recommending people watch Up is that a fair number of wimmenz get massively pissed off over that opening. Mainly because I recommended something that was so sad at the beginning.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2018 09:05 PM (eXA4G)

518 One of my all time fave P&F songs is "Weaponry" as sung by Normbot.

youtube.com/watch?v=_3H18bkKyG8

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:05 PM (NWiLs)

519 Furlough:

I sent to my two scumbag senators and my Rep:

Release The Memo
Release The Memo
Release The Memo

Fund Citizens Before Illegals
Fund Citizens Before Illegals
Fund Citizens Before Illegals

Support The President
Support The President
Support The President

Or you'll be voted out of office.

Posted by: goatexchange at January 20, 2018 09:06 PM (YFnq5)

520 Another fun episode of KOTH was the episode where Luanne becomes the obsession of her boss, the local pork product king.

"We can become pork products TOGETHER!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:06 PM (eMKNe)

521 One of my favorite KotH episodes was when Bill Dauterive learned he was the heir to the D'haute Rive estate and they visit his creepy Southern Gothic family, right out of a Tennessee Williams play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz9rQsutfuo

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:06 PM (qJtVm)

522 Anyone else catch Wait til Your Father Comes Home? Loved the neighbor who saw Commies under every bush.
Posted by: Texican ette at January 20, 2018 09:00 PM (dwBLr)

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I used to watch that!!! I mean (ahem) when I was really, really, really young. Sigh. Thread's bringing back a lot of childhood memories.

Re: Tom & Jerry - one of the kids was watching it & said "it's really not fair. Jerry is such an instigator".

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2018 09:07 PM (akSgU)

523 I love the beginning of "Up".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:08 PM (qJtVm)

524 All Hail Eris, yup.

I admit I've always been a little bit too much like Bill, too much of a wimp. Watching him on that show taught me, I needed to toughen up somewhat to get through life.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:08 PM (eMKNe)

525
I love KOTH and watch reruns all the time. But, the achilles heel of the show is Hank and Bobby and they're just not that funny
...
I disagree. Hank and to a lesser extent Bobby are the moral center of the show. Hank is the one who usually sees past the PC BS going on if anyone does. He's the common sense good guy who's usually right in the end.

Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 09:09 PM (6HFDU)

526 I believe there was a storyline on KOTH for a while, where Dale was always trying to beat up on and/or bully Bill.

I know Hank would usually rescue Bill, but I would have liked to see an episode where Bill got in Dale's face himself.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (eMKNe)

527 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:06 PM (qJtVm)

Great episode. There are so many I couldn't choose the best.

I do remember laughing the hardest in the first season where Hank's clothes were torn of by a tornado and he was looking for something to cover himself with. He looked at a potted cactus plant and then a Texas flag. Cut to the next scene and he was holding the cactus in front of his privates.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (2DOZq)

528 qdpsteve (comment 341) --

Oh boy, you talk about "dark," the Fleishers cornered the market with their early stuff.

Looney Tunes Network has Fleisher shorts. Two stand out in my mind. In "Hawaiian Birds," girl bird dumps boy bird for city excitement. When it goes sour, she attempts suicide. And in "The Cobweb Hotel," (think that's the title), a hotel for flies only is run by a spider. In one scene, the honeymoon couple has just entered their room when they hear a noise next door. They look through a wall of webbing to see another "guest" struggling to escape the webbing that secures him to the bed. That rattled me.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (G+J43)

529 The opening to Up was a gut punch. The rest of the movie was fairly forgettable.

I have high standards for the animated movies I show guests. Only The Incredibles & Chicken Run made that list.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (hyuyC)

530 Stace, good point.

One of my favorite things Chris Rock ever did, is his KOTH episode about racism.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:10 PM (eMKNe)

531 Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 09:09 PM (6HFDU)

Wavelength. Same.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (2DOZq)

532 Remember to tweet #SchumerShutdown too to fight the Trump Shutdown the Left is lyingly promoting.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (ewxPW)

533
I think I spotted your problem.

GO EAGLES!
Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

Heh. Much as I am a Vikings guy, I like the Iggles as well. Nick Foles is kind of a sleeper, the dude nobody considers, until he does what he can do. All honesty, they would be my second choice in the Sooper Bowl.

Nevertheless, GO VIKINGS!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (bNbo2)

534 Jerry is like that in Seinfeld. He's a straight man to all the crazy brought by the others.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (pV/54)

535 I like the musical credits at the end of Wall-E a great deal, it's really quite subtle and very artistic. As the music plays, the animation takes you through the entire history of art, starting with Rock Paintings and ending with French Impressionism. In fact, that's my favorite part of the entire movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 09:11 PM (V2Yro)

536 Weak Geek, oh man.

The Fleischers were old, and I mean OLD, school storytellers. I think their POV was that the cartoons just weren't worth doing if there wasn't something there for the adults as well as the kids.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:12 PM (eMKNe)

537 525

Hank and to a lesser extent Bobby are the moral center of the show. Hank is the one who usually sees past the PC BS going on if anyone does. He's the common sense good guy who's usually right in the end.
Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 09:09 PM (6HFDU)


My memory is notoriously shoddy, but didn't Hank Hill originate from the neighbor in Beavis & Butthead?

Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)

538 "I love the beginning of "Up"."

Eris, I agree wholeheartedly: the opening sequence of "Up" is heart-rending: as powerful a ten minutes of film as one will ever see. And it's done so simply, through song and visual queues, nothing more - almost like a classic silent movie.

That is the genius of Pixar, I think: they know that the story is everything. And while they do give the viewer a feast for the eye, what the audience carries away is the impression left by the story itself. It used to be that every movie company cared about that. Now it's Pixar and ... well, nobody.

And by the way: I simply cannot wait for "Incredibles 2"!


Posted by: Brown Line at January 20, 2018 09:12 PM (S6ArX)

539 rickl, I believe so, yes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 20, 2018 09:13 PM (eMKNe)

540 Best Hank and Bobby episode is when Hank's truck was at the end of its life and they went to a car dealership.

Maybe tied with their deer hunting trip episode.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (2DOZq)

541 Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)

Yes.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (2DOZq)

542 I am still not tired of winning. Another PDT tweet:

"The Trump Administration has terminated more UNNECESSARY Regulation, in
just twelve months, than any other Administration has terminated during
their full term in office, no matter what the length. The good news is,
THERE IS MUCH MORE TO COME!"


-
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Beautiful weather all over our great country, a perfect day for all Women to March. Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that has taken place over the last 12 months. Lowest female unemployment in 18 years!

I have stood here before beside these prog assholes
With the world turning circles but I'm in controls
I guess I'm always hoping that you'll end these LOLs
But it's my destiny to be the king of trolls

King of trolls
I'll always be king of trolls
I'll always be kiny of trolls

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (+y/Ru)

543 I disagree. Hank and to a lesser extent Bobby are the moral center of the show. Hank is the one who usually sees past the PC BS going on if anyone does. He's the common sense good guy who's usually right in the end.


Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 09:09 PM

True. But I don't watch it for life lessons and morals. I watch for the lolz. The "moral centre" and whatnot are a bonus, but not the draw (for me). I just find some characters drag a bit. Hank's love of lawncare, propane and his truck etc are ok, but gets boring.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2018 09:15 PM (qGuLD)

544 For those that are interested in the behind the scenes of animation, you have to check out a documentary titled"I Know That Voice" all about those famous and not so famous voice actors.

https://youtu.be/7aLC0J31Z9g

Quite entertaining.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 20, 2018 09:16 PM (AJeMv)

545 No one's mentioned Twice Upon a Time that came out in 1983. Here's the Wikipedia entry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_Upon_a_Time_(1983_film)

And here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCRgiHHvB4

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2018 09:16 PM (ynUnH)

546 And by the way: I simply cannot wait for "Incredibles 2"!

Me neither! I always say that "Incredibles" is an action movie that just happens to be animated. It is as slick and stylish as any Bond flick, and the mother's desperate attempt to save her children during the airplane crash is as taut and pulse-pounding as anything I've seen in a serious adventure movie.

And yes, who else is making movies that appeal to all demographics like Pixar?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:17 PM (qJtVm)

547 518 One of my all time fave P&F songs is "Weaponry" as sung by Normbot.

youtube.com/watch?v=_3H18bkKyG8
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 20, 2018 09:05 PM (NWiLs)
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There's a website called televisiontunes.com that is a library of songs from probably hundreds of shows. Not exactly sure how they get away with it even with a disclaimer, but it's fun to go on & listen to the old (or new) themes, including songs from P & F.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2018 09:19 PM (akSgU)

548 Godzilla is ready to smash Mothra.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2018 09:19 PM (8iiMU)

549
My memory is notoriously shoddy, but didn't Hank Hill originate from the neighbor in Beavis & Butthead?
Posted by: rickl at January 20, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)

I have no idea what his origin is. All I know is the first episode I saw of KOTH I thought, jeez, I KNOW that guy, and he's a really good guy.

Posted by: stace at January 20, 2018 09:20 PM (6HFDU)

550 ONT

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 20, 2018 09:20 PM (AJeMv)

551 Brad Bird said that he wouldn't do a sequel to Incredibles until he had a script better than the first.

Well, it's taken a long time but I'm really jazzed. The short trailer is a hoot.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2018 09:23 PM (pV/54)

552 Nope, I like Rick and Morty. Some of what I've seen is brilliant.

Have you seen "Gravity Falls"? There's actually a cross-over moment between the two series (minor, but it's there, and they intended more), and there's something about a Disney kid's cartoon that manages to have Cthulhu appear.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 20, 2018 09:23 PM (fVubI)

553 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Help! The Deranged Beavers Are Trying To Kill Me! at January 20, 2018 09:14 PM (+y/Ru)

He is a master at carefully calibrating to elicit the most outrage at his opposition. This was perfect - if he would have done his usual blustery Sad! type of tweet, they would have rolled their eyes and ignored it with a "Yeah, he's an asshole".

With *this* however, all they can do is seethe, knowing he's doing it just to troll them. And they can't help themselves - it's been nothing but twitter histrionics and mumbling to themselves "What an asshole."

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 20, 2018 09:23 PM (2kiKp)

554 Harvey Birdman custody

https://youtu.be/xxI15_6KyzU

Posted by: Traveling Man at January 20, 2018 09:23 PM (R5lpX)

555
it's wheelBARROW

not wheelBARREL

and NOT wheelBARROL

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2018 09:24 PM (tAiTN)

556 so you just saw Real Genius? Sad.

Posted by: The Dr. Brake Bemoray at January 20, 2018 09:26 PM (V3U1L)

557 @498 --

Commander Ralph Kane of militia Company B! Voiced by Jack Burns. "Huh? Huh? Huh-huh-huh?"

Now we're getting into esoterica.

Anybody remember the H-B prime time show "Where's Huddles?" Pro football player. Flopped.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 20, 2018 09:27 PM (G+J43)

558 Has anyone seen "Robots" with Ewan MacGregor voicing the lead character?

Great animation, and a funny little story.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at January 20, 2018 09:27 PM (uDcBt)

559 So nobody can identify my Japanese poop cartoon? I figured the Horde would be all over this one like flies on...well...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2018 09:31 PM (qJtVm)

560 Greetings sports fans, Longtime lurker Ferrous here. So, I love animation. And I bring forth the tidbits of the past, a movie almost nobody's heard of: Twice Upon A Time.

Like the Cobbler and the Thief, the story of this is almost better than the movie. The studio (a subsidiary of Lucasfilm, if you'd believe it) was failing financially, so they launched a hail-mary of an animated movie with limited studio release. The film itself had lots of cool subversive moments, and was a great mix of real live film mixed in with what would be South Park style animation with a great soundtrack, sprinkled with pop culture references of all stripes. There were just a few problems.
First, as I said before, the studio was failing, and spectacularly at that. They could only afford to do a limited release of the film, so it didn't even hit all theaters. Most of those that did get it wound up showing it as a double header with the Don Bluth classic, "The Secret of NIMH"
Second, the voice actors (mostly comedians) recorded a second, adult audio track and didn't inform the producer. Worse, some theaters got the adult audio track instead of the kid friendly one. The uproar pretty much ensured that the whole thing blew over and wound up being a loss.

The only reason I knew about this movie in the first place was because, as a loner in my high school years, I frequented our town library, which had a copy on vhs. You can, for what it's worth, buy a dvd copy on Amazon, but really, this movie needs a soundtrack release too. (See exhibit a, the opening track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFHTeJU7fqo )

Anywho, it's worth a look if you can find it.

Posted by: Ferrous at January 20, 2018 10:08 PM (9zK/z)

561 I saw Toy Story 3 times.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 20, 2018 10:13 PM (bc2Lc)

562 Thanks Ferrous, I didn't know about that one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2018 10:21 PM (V2Yro)

563 The Cobbler animation bothered me in that it seemed like watching one huge Rube Goldberg contraption.

Posted by: Corona at January 20, 2018 10:22 PM (88+VL)

564 I am a fan of anime. When I watched The Secret of Kells I muttered to myself "...it's Irish anime!" A completely stylized approach to art, with that 2D look like a tapestry. I highly recommend watching it to enjoy the art.

The most memorable part of the movie was the sequence where the invaders break into the fortifications. But it's bleak and depressing because the invaders kill everyone stuck inside. So I've only watched it the one time.

I agree that The Incredibles is by far the best 3D animated movie ever. The story, characters, voices, soundtrack, world-building... all top-notch. I convinced an 82-year-old relative to watch it and when it was done, she agreed it was great and thanked me for talking her into it.

I'm currently watching an anime series called Psyco-pass on Crunchyroll. It's set in a future where technology allows reading personality traits, and if your personality reads as overly dangerous they lock you up (just as a precaution) in comfortable cells. The average person leads an idyllic life, with very low crime and high technology. But there are still criminals (a surprising number of which seem to be serial killers) so there are still police. I'm about half-way through the first season and I'm enjoying it. As a lover of liberty I'm offended by the idea of locking up people before they commit any crime, but the story isn't sugar-coating that aspect of it... the system is shown to be flawed and more flaws are appearing as the story unfolds.

Semi-spoilers follow. The police in this anime are called "Inspectors" but they have "Enforcers" who work for them. "Enforcers" are all people whose personality reading shows that they are capable of being violent. The Inspectors are supposed to supervise the Enforcers. But also, the Inspectors actually are supposed to make the Enforcers do the dirtiest parts of the job, because exposure to crime can tend to change your personality to make you more capable of violence yourself... your "Psycho-pass" reading can increase if you lose your detachment or get really upset. Inspectors and Enforcers are authorized to use weapons, including nifty pistols called Dominators. A Dominator reads the Psycho-pass, and if the reading is too low the Dominator won't shoot at all; above a threshold it will shoot "paralyzer" and at still-higher threshold it will shoot lethal rounds. A Dominator also only works when it can communicate with the main computers on the Internet somewhere. (This resulted in an entertaining scene where they were hurriedly running cables to try to extend Internet into an area with poor connectivity so that the pistols would work when needed.) The Enforcers are people too, people who would be locked up if they didn't have the Enforcer job; they want to help protect ordinary citizens, they want to stay out of the prison, and to some extend they enjoy being able to indulge their violent side a bit while shooting criminals or whatever. The main protagonist is a young woman with extremely high scores on all the standardized tests, who could have chosen any career; she chose to join the police. She is very interested in one of the Enforcers (possibly even romantically interested), and possibly risking her own Psyco-pass if she gets too involved with him. It can happen that an Inspector whose Psycho-pass gets bad can get demoted to Enforcer status, and she might be at risk for this.

There's some blood and gore but it was shown on TV so it's not really explicit. But the show is not for the squeamish.

Here's the entire first episode on YouTube. It's dubbed into English. (On Crunchyroll it's in the original Japanese with subtitles.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk7KivEwZVk

Posted by: mr_jack at January 20, 2018 11:03 PM (M59SC)

565 Glad to help Servo!

Posted by: Ferrous at January 20, 2018 11:44 PM (9zK/z)

566 You should check out The Limehouse Golem. Great flick.

Posted by: Mel Krewall at January 20, 2018 11:54 PM (MyZXQ)

567 The James Madison and others who want to take a peek behind the scenes of classic Disney animation, there is a short starring Robert Benchley where he is going to pitch to Walt Disney his story The Reluctant Dragon.

In this short, Robert is taken through storyboard meeting, those statues of various Disney characters are shown that the animators use as references, painting the cels, and all kinds of things. But the neatest is being shown the six foot tall apparatus they used to shoot the really deep depth shots.

For interesting trivia from Fantasia, the Nutcracker Suite used 20,000 frames.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 21, 2018 12:40 AM (2+EWn)

568 Good morning Anna! I'm a big Benchley fan as well as a Disney freak and shockingly didn't know about this, so I'm looking at a (poor) copy on YouTube.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:24 AM (qJtVm)

569 Okay I broke down and rented it on Amazon.

*shakes fist at Bezos*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 21, 2018 06:28 AM (qJtVm)

570 In case no one else replied:

My son has seen the poo video, Eris. He says it's actually Korean stop-motion and it's called "Doggy Poo":

https://youtu.be/argbjMdueug

Posted by: Gem at January 21, 2018 12:41 PM (XoAz8)

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