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Weekend Gun Thread
As you can imagine I surf the internet quite a bit for my Cob duties. I came across today's Weekend Gun Thread photo. Can't remember where I found it. But, it is quite a gun locker. So before the tragic canoe accidents where did you store your firearms? If you had a chance to rebuild your collection what you do for storage?
Speaking of purchases. The Top 5 selling handguns of 2017.
We keep hearing from the gun control zealots about internet gun sales. Well, the loopholes and illegal sales seem to be non-existent.h/t Country Singer.
Tests performed on the Surface Web demonstrated that private sellers GAO contacted on gun forums and other classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm
to an individual who appeared to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Of the 72 attempts agents made to purchase firearms on the Surface Web, 56 sellers
refused to complete a transaction: 29 sellers stated they would not ship a firearm
and 27 refused after the disclosure of the undercover identities’ stated prohibited status. Furthermore, in 5 of these 72 attempts, the accounts GAO set up werefrozen by the websites, which prevented the agents from using the forums and
attempting to make a purchase.
As the US becomes more and more urbanized, kids don't grow up with guns as in generations past. What better way to introduce children to guns than books. World Champion Shooter Julie Golob Teaches Firearm Safety with Children's Book
Author Julie Golob is a prominent voice for sharing safe, responsible gun ownership throughout the firearms industry and beyond. Golob is a decorated multi-time world and national champion, an Army veteran, and a mother of two, and her newest book, Toys, Tools, Guns & Rules: A Children's Book About Gun Safety, encourages families to begin having conversations about firearms with children at a young age.
Once again middle America is sneered at and Painted with a broad brush.
“Meanwhile,” Esquire scribe Charles P. Pearce writes, apropo of nothing, “out in the Heartland of Real America, violent fckwads are at play. Allegedly. The Lincoln Journal-Star tells us that some folks on a passenger train got very lucky that they weren’t involved in someone’s unfortunately ill-timed exercise of his Second Amendment rights.” A couple of points . . .
Talk about wide open spaces. Margaret has quite the expanse between her ears and behind her eyes.
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Do you have some gun tips, ideas, stories or other interesting items. You can pass those along to petmorons at gmail dot com.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:02 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:03 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: fluffy at January 07, 2018 07:03 PM (cHbmY)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 07, 2018 07:05 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: JQ at January 07, 2018 07:05 PM (yD/Pf)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 07, 2018 07:05 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at January 07, 2018 07:05 PM (w7U7L)
Evenin
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 07:06 PM (sHPUD)
376
Hey rickl. SpaceX will launch the Zuma mission in about an hour. The webcast goes live about twenty minutes prior.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 07, 2018 07:01 PM (gEvQ
Posted by: Old Blue at January 07, 2018 07:06 PM (gEvQ8)
Posted by: PhilDirt at January 07, 2018 07:06 PM (pkiGl)
And note, on the right, but mostly obscured by the text, is what looks like a PPsh-41 (papasha), the iconic WWII Soviet sub-machine gun. Have never seen on of those in action with a private owner.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:06 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: The mass media can EABOD at January 07, 2018 07:07 PM (UbvVs)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:07 PM (WQ3tJ)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 07, 2018 07:07 PM (/qEW2)
You're exponentially more likely to be murdered in the Witty and Urbane Big Cities of Our Betters.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 07, 2018 07:09 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:09 PM (aC6Sd)
You can keep your Jimmy Choos in there, too.
Just kidding. I've never paid 3 figures for a pair of shoes in my life.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 07, 2018 07:10 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:11 PM (WQ3tJ)
Because he wanted to know who in his county was packing.
Never heard from him again.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at January 07, 2018 07:11 PM (iiixZ)
Looks just like an old M16A2 and shoots the same.
Nice rifle.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 07:11 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 07, 2018 07:07 PM (/qEW2)
It tells the owner when he needs to buy another gun.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:13 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 07, 2018 07:13 PM (/QTqc)
selling handguns for 2017. Why does everything have to be a video? And
why does the first 30 seconds of that video have to consist of 2
assholes trying to be funny? I guess i'll just wonder what those 5 gun
were. It won't make any difference in the end.
Posted by: The mass media can EABOD
...............
My impressions exactly as well.. very annoying.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2018 07:13 PM (5tSKk)
"PPsh" stands for pistolyet pulyemot shpagina, Shpagin machine pistol.
Being the commie place it was, in the USSR very few things had names other than codes or numbers (excluding nicknames they might pick up). Only exceptions were aircraft (design bureau chiefs' names were used - Yakovlev, Tupolev, etc.) and small arms. Thus the PPsh-41, named for its designer Gerogiy Shpagin, and the famous AK-47 (avtomata Kalashnikova-47), named for its famous designer, who died not that long ago.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:13 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Rocket Boy at January 07, 2018 07:14 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:14 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
.........
Probably measures humidity, not time..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2018 07:15 PM (5tSKk)
Christmas AR-10 has scope mounted. Need to bore site, then go to the range Friday...
Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 07, 2018 07:15 PM (4DCSq)
Full auto anything is a hoot. I've been lucky enough to get to shoot the following full auto weapons:
M249
H&K G36
MP5
AK47
M16
Glock 18
Uzi
My faves have to be the G36 and the MP5.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:15 PM (NWiLs)
Shpagina? That sounds like a gun that a woman can easily carry concealed.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:16 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 07, 2018 07:16 PM (6Ll1u)
.....
And note, on the right, but mostly obscured by the text, is what looks like a PPsh-41 (papasha), the iconic WWII Soviet sub-machine gun. Have never seen on of those in action with a private owner.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:06 PM (QDnY+)
Somebody sells a semi-auto replica in .22lr. Too lazy to search at the moment...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 07, 2018 07:16 PM (/jJd8)
376 Hey rickl. SpaceX will launch the Zuma mission in about an hour. The webcast goes live about twenty minutes prior.
Posted by: Old Blue at January 07, 2018 07:01 PM (gEvQ
Yes, I was waiting for a new thread to put it up. Here is the webcast link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PWu3BRxn60
This is the first launch of 2018, and will be from Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral.
Zuma is a classified payload for the U.S. Government. Usually classified payloads are identified as Air Force, Navy, National Reconnaissance Office, or whatever. What's unusual about Zuma is that nobody is claiming responsibility for it.
Zuma was originally supposed to be launched from Pad 39A in November, but SpaceX discovered a problem with a payload fairing on another rocket and took this one back to the hangar for further investigation.
In the meantime, Pad 40 came back online and SpaceX wanted to convert 39A for the Falcon Heavy, so this rocket was moved to Pad 40.
The launch is scheduled for 8:00 pm EST.
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 07:17 PM (KP5rU)
Next to last on the right is a Galil I believe.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 07:17 PM (EoRCO)
https://twitter.com/PNN_Unleashed/status/950094780331065345
Posted by: Lizzy at January 07, 2018 07:18 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: robeartoe at January 07, 2018 07:19 PM (/ZCA9)
Posted by: concrete girl at January 07, 2018 07:19 PM (nBzBk)
text, is what looks like a PPsh-41 (papasha), the iconic WWII Soviet
sub-machine gun. Have never seen on of those in action with a private
owner.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:06 PM (QDnY+)
I got to buy some range time with PPS 43 at a full-auto shoot, and that was massive amounts of stiffy for me. I almost went and bought one until sanity resumed.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2018 07:19 PM (2K6fY)
Naturally there's a stalled court case (Peruta vs. Gore, SD Sheriff). First 3-judge panel ruled in favor of Peruta - with a lengthy masterful bit of verbiage that basically lifted much of Heller, thus daring the 9th to reconsider the ruling and reverse it, thus giving SCOTUS the finger. To which the 9th said "hold my kombucha" and promptly did so, of course. There are some more infuriating angles to the case, but this isn't the place. So for now, "may issue" continues to essentially deny most people the right to carry in CA.
Just one of many cases hanging in the 9th on gun rights. If SCOTUS ever gets around to reasserting the "S" part of its title, there might be hope. But as of now the circuits have "over-ruled" them on Heller, in effect.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:20 PM (QDnY+)
It might be OK for keeping your kiddies away from the guns, but not for keeping even halfway competent burglars out.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 07:20 PM (DNH+H)
39A in November, but SpaceX discovered a problem with a payload fairing
on another rocket and took this one back to the hangar for further
investigation.
In the meantime, Pad 40 came back online and SpaceX wanted to
convert 39A for the Falcon Heavy, so this rocket was moved to Pad 40.
The launch is scheduled for 8:00 pm EST.
Posted by: rickl
...............
Thanks for the link! The Falcon Heavy is going to be interesting, at the very least...
Musk is sending up his personal Tesla sports car as payload which will be playing "Space Oddity" on its stereo during takeoff!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2018 07:20 PM (5tSKk)
My favorite is the GAU2B. Anything you can write you name with in the water is a good weapon.
I'd like to shoot the SAW but never had a chance to.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:20 PM (WQ3tJ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 07:21 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:22 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:15 PM (NWiLs)
That's wicked hawt.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 07, 2018 07:23 PM (cu8/f)
I'd like to shoot the SAW but never had a chance to.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:20 PM (WQ3tJ)
Just a bit hard getting your hands on a minigun in civilian land. But I'm surr would be tons of fun. The SAW is actually not as exciting as I was expecting, but still fun.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:23 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 07:24 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: jsg at January 07, 2018 07:24 PM (DhcsO)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:24 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 07:25 PM (IqV8l)
Kindltot, there was a utoob video somewhere of a young'in shooting a -41 or -43 - don't recall if he was in the US or Russia. Would love to be able to empty a few drums of that. Have to check on this, but I believe entire rifle divisions were equipped with them sometimes, obviously for urban fighting. Pretty awesome example of the scale and baddassery of the eastern front, I guess.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:25 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:15 PM (NWiLs)
That's wicked hawt.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 07, 2018 07:23 PM (cu8/f)
It is indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:25 PM (NWiLs)
little earlier to go to the for mentioned People's republic and a job
in a building with no heat.
Posted by: Skip
..............
It's in 29 minutes, not in the morning..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2018 07:26 PM (5tSKk)
Couple years ago there was a gun shop that posted GREAT videos on guns- but the older dude in them died, suddenly. Sad. Those were good, informative, and not this BS 'bro' crap that is like 2014. I never finished the vid- so here's the list of the top 5 without the effing fist-bumping low-grade animation:
Smith & Wesson 9mm Shield.
Ruger LCP.
Kimber K6s Stainless.
Glock 19.
KEL-TEC PMR-30.
Posted by: mr wolf at January 07, 2018 07:26 PM (HWKKg)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:27 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:28 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Rocket Boy at January 07, 2018 07:14 PM (c8EhQ)
========
If you hiked through the Appalachian trail, you would be fit, trim and confident in yourself. You'd no longer have to overcompensate by threatening to blow up the world.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 07, 2018 07:28 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: irongrampa at January 07, 2018 07:28 PM (S/hVx)
Also Maryland, New York and Massachusetts.
Posted by: fluffy at January 07, 2018 07:29 PM (cHbmY)
I'd love to shoot some of the BIG guns. Closest I've ever gotten is the Barrett .50.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:29 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:07 PM (WQ3tJ)
Agree 100%, this is what I use.
I got a squeeze bottle of something called "MILITEC-1" for Christmas. It's a lube and is supposed to work at extreme temperatures. Last week I slathered up my 1911 with it and went to the range. It was -2F that day, and I left the 1911 laying out on the table to cold soak while I shot something else. When I got around to shooting it, it cycled just fine. This was with considerably more lube than I would normally use.
I've had problems with other lubricants getting too thick at low temps and causing problems. This stuff seemed to be OK. I've never had that problem with CLP, either, which is one of the reasons I like it.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 07:29 PM (DNH+H)
there is a local toy store that has a bad rep fro ripping people off when they price out things people want to sell, but, every so often, when we stop off to check their used rack (the only reason to deal with these asshats) there will be something there worth more than what they're selling it for.
we got an AR Sales M1-A that way, 'bout $700, IIRC.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 07:29 PM (mahnP)
Teh Hollywood wimmenz are so all in that they're each wearing black. Black, can you believe it?
*snort*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:29 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: Guzalot at January 07, 2018 07:30 PM (schB/)
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2018 07:30 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 07:30 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Fritz at January 07, 2018 07:30 PM (bJ0w+)
I think there's a place in Vegas where you can shoot one, although the amount of ammo you'd need would be veeeery spendy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:31 PM (WQ3tJ)
Couple years ago there was a gun shop that posted GREAT videos on guns- but the older dude in them died, suddenly. Sad. Those were good, informative, and not this BS 'bro' crap that is like 2014. I never finished the vid- so here's the list of the top 5 without the effing fist-bumping low-grade animation:
Smith & Wesson 9mm Shield.
Ruger LCP.
Kimber K6s Stainless.
Glock 19.
KEL-TEC PMR-30.
Posted by: mr wolf at January 07, 2018 07:26 PM (HWKKg)
You're only right about one of those. It was the VP9, Canik, SigP320, Taurus Millennium and the Shield
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:31 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:31 PM (aC6Sd)
Not once. M9s and Mossbergs that would shake the barrel nut loose while you walked unless you cranked them back down every other trip down the pier, that's all.
Not. Fair.
ADCAPs and TLAMs don't count.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 07, 2018 07:31 PM (y87Qq)
I think there's a place in Vegas where you can shoot one, although the amount of ammo you'd need would be veeeery spendy.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:31 PM (WQ3tJ)
I'm pretty sure you're right, but I don't have the scratch to even make it out to Vegas, let alone the thousands of dollars I'm sure I'd want to spend on .50BMG.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:32 PM (NWiLs)
One outstanding pick-up from a gun forum was using ChoreBoy copper scouring pads. Tear off a bit, wrap around old brush of appropriate caliber. Scrubs lead out of revolver barrels very effectively (make sure to use the 100% copper ones, not copper-coated steel). Highly recommend this for anyone with stubborn leading. Also in rifle barrels, if you use lead (I don't).
Retired SEAL buddy gave me a bunch of FrogLube stuff. Works well, smell reminds of me of some candy or gum from childhood. Non-toxic. Probably should use it most of the time, no point in exposing yourself to the strong stuff more than necessary.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:33 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:33 PM (NWiLs)
5-best-selling-handguns-of-2017.aspx
Bing is your friend
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 07:34 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:34 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: Muns at January 07, 2018 07:34 PM (fO+6C)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:34 PM (c8EhQ)
.50BMG is now up to something like 4 or 5 bucks a round, if you're lucky.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:34 PM (NWiLs)
then two scary semi-autos with the thing that goes up (no idea, FAL?),
then the PPsh-41. Can someone fill in the blanks?
My guess:
Moisin-Nagant, M1 Garand, No1 MkIII SMLE***, No4 SMLE jungle carbine, SIG 542, Galil and PPSh 41.
Not so sure about the Sig and the Galil
Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (2K6fY)
Since this is a classified launch, the live coverage will only follow the first stage from launch to separation to landing. The flight of the second stage and payload to orbit will not be covered live.
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (sdi6R)
Nice!! I'd definitely carry something large caliber as a side arm if you're gonna be on foot.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (WQ3tJ)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:36 PM (sdi6R)
5-best-selling-handguns-of-2017.aspx
Bing is your friend
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 07:34 PM (mahnP)
Different list from the video. Perhaps they meant their own sales.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: freaked at January 07, 2018 07:36 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 07:36 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:37 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (2K6fY)
I'm 99 and 77/100 percent sure that's a Galil
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 07:38 PM (NWiLs)
The house also has a small wet bar with a wine fridge. When my cute niece heard this she said, wow, storage for booze AND guns--that house is perfect for Aunt stace!
Posted by: stace at January 07, 2018 07:38 PM (6HFDU)
Ran into one of the organizers/owners of the Big Sandy Shoot a few years back. It's in western AZ, on BLM land. Similar to what I think is the big full-auto shoot in KY. As I recall he had several BARs, a Maxim gun, and an M1919. Like an idiot I didn't take him up on it, he said to come the week before with a few hundred $$, the organizers have their private shoot before the masses are allowed to.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:39 PM (QDnY+)
Might have to see that one not coming out until Feb 9
Posted by: jsg at January 07, 2018 07:39 PM (DhcsO)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (sdi6R)
So its revolutions will not be televised?
Posted by: hogmartin at January 07, 2018 07:39 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:39 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 07, 2018 07:40 PM (Tyii7)
it's (left to right), Mosin-Nagant, M-1 Garand, w Lee-Enfields (?), then two scary semi-autos with the thing that goes up (no idea, FAL?), then the PPsh-41. Can someone fill in the blanks?
Next to last on the right is a Galil I believe.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 07:17 PM
I don't think that's an FAL.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 07:40 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 07:40 PM (sHPUD)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 07:41 PM (QCX64)
Oh yeah, my husband had a club!
Posted by: Griz Grizzleton at January 07, 2018 07:42 PM (ZAWbU)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 07:42 PM (sHPUD)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:42 PM (sdi6R)
You got any mounted animal heads in the foyer?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:43 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: fluffy at January 07, 2018 07:43 PM (cHbmY)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:43 PM (WQ3tJ)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:35 PM (aC6Sd)
Dawn dish washing soap and plenty of hot water is pretty good too. I lube the rifle afterwards with CLP since I have it.
I was encouraged to run the metal parts of the disassembled Colt Army revolver through the dishwasher if I was lazy. I'm not married so that would be doable, if'n I had a dishwasher.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2018 07:44 PM (2K6fY)
I believe there several thousand rounds of the shells in storage (Dahlgren, VA?). So I have a revenue-raising idea that would be good for the soul of the country.
Set up one of the spare 16-inch barrels/guns on federal land in NV or NM or AZ, and charge people lots of $$$ to come fire it off. The horrified panic of much of the public and all of the non-elite "elites" would be worth it all by themselves.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:44 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 07:45 PM (QCX64)
Videos take a long time to load and by the time I watch the video, I forget why I ever clicked on it.
Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at January 07, 2018 07:45 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 07, 2018 07:46 PM (hscyr)
At least TargetSportsUSA.com told deranged MA Attorney General Maura Healey to go pound sand and resumed mail order sales to FID/LTC holders in the Commiewealth last month.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 07, 2018 07:46 PM (N5dam)
Dopey kids show produced by WGBH back in the 70s. They tried to be hip.
Yeah.
The intro song was awesome! Or "excellent" as we said back then.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 07:46 PM (sHPUD)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: No Way Out at January 07, 2018 07:47 PM (fcqmr)
Posted by: Barak Hussien Obama, hiding in an Iranian well at January 07, 2018 07:47 PM (Qe84+)
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2018 07:47 PM (jHrzU)
Set up one of the spare 16-inch barrels/guns on federal land in NV or NM or AZ, and charge people lots of $$$ to come fire it off.
Imagine taking out Bambi's mom with a round that's the size of a Volkswagen.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:47 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:47 PM (aC6Sd)
Beretta?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 07:48 PM (EoRCO)
I believe there several thousand rounds of the shells in storage (Dahlgren, VA?). So I have a revenue-raising idea that would be good for the soul of the country.
Set up one of the spare 16-inch barrels/guns on federal land in NV or NM or AZ, and charge people lots of $$$ to come fire it off. The horrified panic of much of the public and all of the non-elite "elites" would be worth it all by themselves.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:44 PM (QDnY+)
Hell, I'd probably pay just to go watch that.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 07:48 PM (DNH+H)
When Zoomba was all the craze a couple of years ago, a woman was running the best little Zoomba Whorehouse In Maine.
Exercise And Sex! For cash!
That was a great American story, actually. Very entrepreneurial. Too bad they punished her for it.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 07:48 PM (sHPUD)
Actually, pulling the trigger on an Iowa-class 16-inch main battery would define the ultimate in trigger pulls. Tragically, not gonna happen.
https://youtu.be/_wT1xkRpCKk
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 07:48 PM (IqV8l)
Talking bolt actions here. If you use corrosive in a semi-auto, you're crazy. Can be cleaned up, but (depending on climate) vastly more involved than a bolt barrel.
Have sold some 54R this year and have yet to find a buyer who understood this, lots of internet FUD that leads people to believe there's some magic about corrosive ammo.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (WQ3tJ)
so another crazy comm trail show is imminent?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 07, 2018 07:46 PM (hscyr)
Probably not, since it's already dark. You only see trails like that with twilight launches.
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 07, 2018 07:51 PM (prxs+)
Videos take a long time to load and by the time I watch the video, I forget why I ever clicked on it.
Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at January
guys like you are ruining the porn industry.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 07:51 PM (MTjB1)
Senior officials were stunned when the president asked if any of part the White House grounds could be paved over and used for go-cart races.
After an uncomfortable silence, one department head told the president that she would look into it. Trump proceeded to tell repeated and rambling stories of riding go-carts in his youth.
These long time public servants left the meeting deeply shaken but more than ever convinced that the cabinet would have to invoke the 25th amendment.
Posted by: cm9000 at January 07, 2018 07:51 PM (/JJ3i)
His mom mailed his second pair of boots to a place in VA.
The got to where they could make a comfortable camp anywhere, like in a WAWA parking lot.
Most boring segment: PA.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 07, 2018 07:52 PM (t/7gr)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:52 PM (aC6Sd)
Eh.
Quite the noisemaker. Good for sending lots of lead out in semi-random directions.
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2018 07:53 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2018 07:53 PM (ANIFC)
Second , buy a safe that handles 10 more guns than you presently have.
That said I have a 24 gun safe but I need a 48 gun safe.
And just for fun I built a false wall in my broom cabinet in my kitchen. I keep a few guns there just because.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 07:55 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (QDnY+)
Good advice!...also almost all surplus ammo from Uncle Joe's formerly Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc as well as French 7.5 is corrosive.
Just flush with hot water, clean as you normally would and your good to go.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 07:55 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: josephistan at January
less of a gun locker and more porn locker with some guns to hold off people trying to break in and interrupt his porn watching or make off with his collection.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 07:55 PM (MTjB1)
Definitely a SIG 550 series in the middle there to the left of the Galil.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 07:55 PM (eXA4G)
And just for fun I built a false wall in my broom cabinet in my kitchen. I keep a few guns there just because.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 07:55 PM (2DOZq)
I just love those things.
Posted by: Bob From The NSA at January 07, 2018 07:56 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: blaster at January 07, 2018 07:56 PM (jHrzU)
Talking bolt actions here. If you use corrosive in a semi-auto, you're crazy. Can be cleaned up, but (depending on climate) vastly more involved than a bolt barrel.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (QDnY+)
I have an SKS and a shit-ton of corrosive primed Chinese ammo that I'm still shooting. My technique after shooting is to disassemble, clean everything with hot, soapy water, rinse with boiling water, blow dry with compressed air, then lube and reassemble. It's a pain, so I don't shoot it a lot.
I've had it for most of my 29 years and it doesn't show any signs of corrosion yet, so I must be doing something right. I pay particular attention to the gas port, gas cylinder and piston.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 07:56 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2018 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 07:56 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Strick at January 07, 2018 07:57 PM (wmo07)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 07:57 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January
where they keep grandpa locked up so they can keep collecting his ss checks. firing pins are all removed.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (IqV8l)
You got any mounted animal heads in the foyer?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 07:43 PM (c8EhQ)
Nah, he took them with him, and we lost my husband's mule deer head (long story).
But get a load of what was there before they moved out: A frickin' elephant skull in the foyer. It was like waist high to me. Huge. Its tusks were lying on the floor in front of the gun cabinet upstairs. We couldn't believe it.
A Cape buffalo head on he living room wall, along with a couple of African antelope and some kind of mountain sheep.
Posted by: stace at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (6HFDU)
Posted by: Weasel at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (hyuyC)
Beretta?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 07:48 PM
It's got an FAL-ish look to it, but can't see enough. The pic is too small and is blocked by text. The mag looks wrong and I'm fairly certain whatever it is takes rounds that are shorter than 7.62.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 07:59 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 07:59 PM (MTjB1)
would be fit, trim and confident in yourself. You'd no longer have to
overcompensate by threatening to blow up the world.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 07, 2018 07:28 PM (/qEW2)
I'm going to start hiking again and hope to do some sectionals of the AT. I was going to start training this month and ordered a new pack. Damn thing got stolen off my front porch.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 07, 2018 08:00 PM (yzxic)
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:00 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 07:55 PM (eXA4G)
Ding ding ding! There it is.......SIG 550. Thanks IllT!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 08:00 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2018 08:00 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 08:01 PM (hyuyC)
He was on a budget. Just look at the shelves.
Posted by: Fritz at January 07, 2018 08:01 PM (bJ0w+)
But, that might be an illusion created by the pic.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:01 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:02 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Skip at January
has the feel of someone who collects senior citizens.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:03 PM (MTjB1)
I live in a very arid climate. I've been a bad boy some times and not actually cleaned my Mosins until 2-3 days after shooting. No issue.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:03 PM (QDnY+)
Remington 22lr??
Ugh. That's the ammo that you buy strictly as trade goods in the Colander Face Mask Times. I've had about 20-25% duds with that stuff, in multiple guns.
Federal, CCI and even the Mexican Aguila stuff is damned reliable, in my experience.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:03 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (QCX64)
Put
the candle
back
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (IqV8l)
Dammit, now I gotta clean my screen.
Posted by: Guzalot at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (schB/)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 07:49 PM (QDnY+)
I recall reading that early noncorrosive priming wasn't as stable, long-term, as the older corrosive priming, and that's why military ammo continued to use it long after pretty much all civilian ammo makers switched.
Might also have just been bureaucratic inertia in the military procurement system and not based on any real difference in performance.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (sdi6R)
Ms K thought it the best thing ever, for jewelry and silver. I thought guns.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (t/7gr)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2018 08:05 PM (5tSKk)
Long ago when my grandparents estate was settled, the executrix wanted to screw me and my brothers royally. GF wanted his weapons to go to the boys. So, from the arsenal my GF owned, she gave me the dirtiest gun she could find - turned out to be a .45 70 cal 1873 Springfield trapdoor carbine.
I bought a car with the proceeds when I sold it.
Thanks Auntie!!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 07, 2018 08:05 PM (tr2D7)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (QCX64)
Gotta keep an eye out for those Fenians.
Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2018 08:05 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:06 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: oldgeezer at January 07, 2018 08:06 PM (4pPcl)
So owners are forced to pay for an expensive feature that almost none of them will ever use.
This is what I love about government. They're always doing your thinking for you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 07, 2018 08:07 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 08:07 PM (KP5rU)
169 Stage 1 has landed! They are really making it look routine now. The first successful landing was only a little over two years ago.
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 08:04 PM (sdi6R)
I was visiting family the night of the first landing. I literally dragged my two nephews away from their fucking video games to watch. Ingrates didn't understand what was going in, but I DID get them to watch.
They thought Uncle Cur was nuts when I starting whooping after the landing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:08 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 07, 2018 08:05 PM (5tSKk)
Elon Musk is Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde for some people.
I'm just waiting for my pneumatic tube transportation.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:08 PM (2DOZq)
And having thruhiked the entire AT (200
, her reasons are spot-on. It is too heavy for backpacking, the legal hassles are real, and the trail is a very safe place, at least WRT things a gun can protect you from.
If someone does want to carry on a hiking trip, I got nothing against them, but IMO it's asinine to rip on someone just because they don't want to carry a gun every minute of every day no matter where they go.
Posted by: Chainsaw at January 07, 2018 08:09 PM (3If/c)
These days I don't recall seeing much corrosive 30-06 except for some nasty stuff from Pakistan and Iran.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:09 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:10 PM (QCX64)
Amazing stuff.
Thanks again for the link.
OT. Are you doing ok, and do the cheerleading nurses give you enough care?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 08:10 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:03 PM (QDnY+)
So far, I've been religious about cleaning it every time after shooting, which is probably why I don't shoot it a lot. Humidity is usually high enough here that I don't want to risk it.
In 2017 I decided I was going to shoot every gun I own at least once (and I did). That was the first time I shot the SKS in several years.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:10 PM (DNH+H)
As to the lack of an inside latch, I'll bet that it's behind the panel on the door. Looks like it might be thin and flimsy to pull easily.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:11 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:12 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 07, 2018 08:13 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: fluffy at January 07, 2018 08:13 PM (cHbmY)
Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2018 08:13 PM (7mYn2)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:10 PM
I think it's a Jungle Carbine.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:14 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 07:58 PM (2DOZq)
Go on. It's perfectly safe. And there's a cask of amontillado right through to your left.
Posted by: Fortunado at January 07, 2018 08:14 PM (/qEW2)
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Yup. We've got enough drunken Irishmen here without importing more!
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:16 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 08:07 PM (KP5rU)
Lighten up, Francis.
I'd love to have a room like that, it's just that I'd make sure the goblins couldn't bash the walls down in five minutes with a sledge hammer.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:17 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 08:17 PM (sHPUD)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 07, 2018 08:17 PM (gEvQ8)
It does have a knob on the inside. We have a separate FEMA certified safe room.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 08:18 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:18 PM (QCX64)
189 We always pack a gun when hiking. After the serial killer was in our favorite trails, pink beds, pisgah, a few years ago.
Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2018 08:13 PM (7mYn2)
The 4-legged wildlife isn't the problem in most places.
That's why I stopped hiking the mountains in SoCal before I moved away to Texas. There were big pot grows that got busted just off of the public trails I frequented, and the pot growers were killing each other on occasion and burying the bodies in shallow graves.
It's not that it was a war zone or anything, but I wasn't going to be anywhere NEAR that shit without a firearm, and of course I couldn't carry legally because......California.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:18 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 07, 2018 08:18 PM (sHPUD)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 08:18 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January
you did a perfectly good job on your gun room. no one said otherwise, they are simply making observations based upon the photograph. you should be proud of your gun room, your six guns, and your collection of farm toys.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:19 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Mike K at January 07, 2018 08:19 PM (s170V)
27 degrees. Above zero!.
An easy 15 degrees warmer than the next warmest day for going on 2 weeks and change. Took doggie for a walk, and not once did he lift his paw and whimper at me, nor did I catch him shaking. A vast improvement, even the birds were singing (by which I mean the hawks were hunting and screeching).
Gun related: Does anyone own or have experience with a Ruger SR9c? There's a smoking good deal at Big R and I'm tempted.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (QCX64)
If we build another house - I want to go unfinished basement, and a couple poured concrete walls in a corner to make just such a safe room. Maybe quarter plate on top for the roof ? And some kind of door like this.
Honestly - a salvage bulkhead door would be idea. But I have no idea where to find one.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 07:56 PM (2DOZq)
************
The door. There's no way out.
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (fcqmr)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:22 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
Amazing stuff.
Thanks again for the link.
OT. Are you doing ok, and do the cheerleading nurses give you enough care?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 08:10 PM (hyuyC)
The only side effect I've noticed so far is that my psoriasis has gotten worse. The doctor said that might happen. It's unsightly, but I feel fine.
I only go for treatments every three weeks, so I don't see the nurses much.
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (fcqmr)
So a guest room, then ? Nice.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 07, 2018 08:24 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: freaked at January 07, 2018 08:24 PM (UdKB7)
Yesterday took my 9mm PPQ to the range, testing the 'dip' or flinch I seem to have picked up that's making me shoot low, consistently with my G21.
And, yes, it looks like it is a flinch. Thanks to whoever suggested going down a caliber to check it. I only had a pair of 'dipped' shots, the PPQ shoots like a laser for me to point of aim. So it was easy to eliminate the gun from the equation.
Now I have to figure out how to train the stupid flinch away. I want to go back to .45 as my carry caliber but it looks like I'll have work to do.
Related note: The PPQ remains a great pistol, not 100% reliable like my Glocks and XDs (I had one weird failure to feed and it also wouldn't extract the round), but a very comfortable and accurate gun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:24 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 08:24 PM (KP5rU)
Those odds make that extra 2 or 3 pounds a no brainer to me. If a gun weighs too much, I'll stay home.
Posted by: Subterranean JT at January 07, 2018 08:24 PM (ZAWbU)
I have several rifles in mine but the flintlock won't fit. Too long.
Posted by: Mike K at January 07, 2018 08:25 PM (s170V)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 08:18 PM (hyuyC)
Sounds great. Does that mean that it's for tornadoes too? I expect it'd be the best room to be in for a tornado either way.
Posted by: stace at January 07, 2018 08:25 PM (6HFDU)
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That's interesting. Very good.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM
Can't be 100% sure coz of the photo. But, that's what it looks like to me.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:25 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:09 PM (QDnY+)
As I recall, pretty all US-made 30-06 during WW2 was corrosive. The changeover happened in the early 1950s and happened at different times at different ammunition plants. Somewhere I've seen a table showing the changeover dates.
As a safe rule, any US GI 30-06 made after 1955 is non-corrosive, anything before 1950 is corrosive, and anything in between may or not be, depending on where and when it was made.
And I believe you're right about 30 carbine - it was all non-corrosive.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:25 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2018 08:26 PM (zLDYs)
Do canoes have a gun number? And does this same calculation apply?
Posted by: X-ray at January 07, 2018 08:26 PM (QQ4UP)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January
you owe it to the hq to do better. your insults are less robust than your slipshod gun room.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:27 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (fcqmr)
Doubles as a Mother in-law suite when she's in town.
Posted by: jsg at January 07, 2018 08:27 PM (H4SrR)
Fluffy, nope.
Posted by: Chainsaw at January 07, 2018 08:28 PM (3If/c)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (KP5rU)
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That's interesting. Very good.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM
Can't be 100% sure coz of the photo. But, that's what it looks like to me.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:25 PM (qGuLD)
Yup....Looks to be a Jungle Carbine. Hopefully not a Santa Fe re-work but an original.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: freaked at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (UdKB7)
Do canoes have a gun number? And does this same calculation apply?
Posted by: X-ray at January 07, 2018 08:26 PM (QQ4UP)
The Feds will be doing the calculating but it's safe to add ten to canoe storage. After all that's why the canoe tipped over.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January
which is precisely what you have provided.
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:30 PM (MTjB1)
I'll always have that memory of Cam Newton turning pale and running away from Vonn Miller like a little bitch during the 2016 Super Bowl.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 07, 2018 08:30 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:06 PM (QDnY+)
I'm interested in the new Ruger carbine. I have the Kel-Tec Sub-2000 already and it's a fun shooter I can stick in a backpack.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:31 PM (xJa6I)
https://youtu.be/_rCZHG_eEak
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 07, 2018 08:31 PM (N5dam)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:31 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 08:21 PM (fcqmr
Vault doors require escape device inside, fed std aa-d-600
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 07, 2018 08:32 PM (Eu5eZ)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
Thanks. That's about where I'm at. I read good things, but not great things. It's not quite as light or small as the real pocket nines that came out around the same time, so it kinda got overlooked. Also, it's not a glock, so...
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 08:33 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Steck at January 07, 2018 08:33 PM (LlRQB)
With the flinch/dipped muzzle thing, basically it's your subconscious mind butting in and trying to take control because WOW BIG BANG DANGER DANGER. It's not as if you're doing it intentionally.
The thing is, ALL pistol shooters do the same thing from time to time. Hell, after 30+ years I STILL do it on occasion.
So you have to kind of Jedi Mind Fuck your subconscious into thinking that everything's cool. First, I've found it pretty effective to diligently work on good stance/grip. Then your mind realizes that you're in control and it doesn't have to jump in and make an ass of itself.
The other thing that works for me is what I think of as Tense Body, Relaxed Mind. If you're in a good shooting position, your body will be tense, by design. It needs to be that way in order to provide that steady, firm shooting position. But your mind reads that as DANGER, because in a dangerous situation your body will tense up. So I try to relax the mind at the same time that my body tenses up for the shot. Works surprisingly well, for me at least.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:33 PM (eXA4G)
Yes, it's primarily for tornadoes. We have had some close calls, including severe hail that trashed our roof.
Inside the tornado safe room is a sink and toilet and supplies. Not much room to stretch out for two. It would be cozy if we had to be rescued.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 08:33 PM (hyuyC)
Thanks. I thought I had stuff figured out by now
Focus on front sight like a laser, move only the trigger finger...now this.
Always something.
I guess that's why I enjoy shooting so much.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (md3fh)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:31 PM (xJa6I)
How do you like the Kel-Tec? What caliber do you have? I've been thinking about getting the .40 cal version, I'm interested in hearing your experiences with it.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (md3fh)
Posted by: Infidel at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (EGFUD)
We finished early and then it was play time, some guy set up a chrono which was nice to time my 9mm loads, and got to fire the fancy S ampersand W 9mm race-gun revolver (forget model #). I get those race guns - the trigger pull, tuned by the owner, was ridiculous, and the recoil slight - but they simply don't interest me. Guess I'm a stock-car racer when it comes to guns.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Zombie Martin Luther King at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (c8EhQ)
I will give that a try, good advice.
My usual 'mantra' is to just exhale slowly ala yoga breathing. But it's annoying, that involuntary twitch.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (xJa6I)
I usually get in that zone once I've warmed up a bit at the range. It's the closest to a Zen state as I'll ever get.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM
They're worth money? I hated the bloody things. Nice and light, but kicked like a mule, bucked like a bronco and I couldn't hit shit with them.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:36 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:31 PM (xJa6I)
How do you like the Kel-Tec? What caliber do you have? I've been thinking about getting the .40 cal version, I'm interested in hearing your experiences with it.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (DNH+H)
If you're not looking to use glock mags, I would just buy a couple of hi points for what you would pay for one kel tec.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
We finished early and then it was play time, some guy set up a chrono which was nice to time my 9mm loads, and got to fire the fancy S ampersand W 9mm race-gun revolver (forget model #). I get those race guns - the trigger pull, tuned by the owner, was ridiculous, and the recoil slight - but they simply don't interest me. Guess I'm a stock-car racer when it comes to guns.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
Yeah, me too. I like my guns as close to stock as possible. But I am considering a trigger job on the G21, to reduce the length I have to stretch my index finger for the first shot.
I have Trumpian fingers, shortish.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:37 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Infidel at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (EGFUD)
I recently had reason to do this. It is hard to find a customer service number off the site alone. The best way is to go into the order you are having trouble with and click on the customer support buttons until you get to an option where they will call the number associated with the account.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 07, 2018 08:38 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:38 PM (md3fh)
Posted by: Infidel at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM (EGFUD)
Their general help line is 1-888-280-4331, you can also have them call you.
Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2018 08:38 PM (ANIFC)
OneEyedJack, why don't you sell a small portion of your substantial APPL stock holdings and buy a Springfield EMP 9mm? Compact, pretty, and from what I hear nice shooters. Mini-1911, essentially.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:39 PM (QDnY+)
Maybe it's a trap. Those guns are just bait. Somebody steps in there and SLAM KLUNK!
Posted by: freaked at January 07, 2018 08:29 PM (UdKB7)
There's always free cheese in a mousetrap.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:39 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:31 PM (xJa6I)
How do you like the Kel-Tec? What caliber do you have? I've been thinking about getting the .40 cal version, I'm interested in hearing your experiences with it.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (DNH+H)
If you're not looking to use glock mags, I would just buy a couple of hi points for what you would pay for one kel tec.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
I like it a lot, hard to beat the size and mine takes Glock 19/17 mags, so that's nice. Recoil is mild but I get a little gas on the recoil. Nothing as bad as a suppressed rifle, though.
I'm surprised how accurate it is with the basic iron sights. It makes a big difference over shooting a pistol but the weapon itself isn't terribly large.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:39 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:38 PM (md3fh)
Before you sell, contact the places you plan on visiting and find out for sure what you can and cannot have.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:39 PM (2DOZq)
https://www.storemoreguns.com/
then buy a new safe anyway.
we had three, a Liberty, an AmSec and a Winchester, before the ferry with the moving truck sank.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 08:40 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:38 PM (md3fh)
Keep what you have and buy a shotgun for traveling.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:41 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (md3fh)
Ruthless, everything you own there should be legal anywhere in the US and Canada. Shouldn't need to sell any of them.
Canuks raise their eyebrows at any gun, a shotgun or rifle isn't really a problem there. They're really twitchy about pistols, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:41 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:35 PM
A friend of mine caught me flinching while shooting .40 and after the usual ribbing handed me his 44 mag. He had loaded it with a combo of light and heavy handloads. Told me not to worry about the target just shoot the thing.
Well, the heavy loads really rocked. Without trying to be precise, it was grin inducing.
Going back to the .40 seemed like childs play so the moral of the story is start with your big calibers and move down at the range and the flinch goes away.
Downside? Big ammo costs money.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 08:41 PM (z79tQ)
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That's why they were only issued to jungle gorilla units. I saw that on the Gorilla History Channel. It was Hitler Gorilla Week this New Year's week.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:41 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: Infidel at January
country code is 55
Posted by: ---.-./-.--- - at January 07, 2018 08:41 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:36 PM (qGuLD)
Not much....if I remember right Santa Fe would take parts from regular Lee Enfields and "make" Jungle Carbine knock offs among other types of rifles back in the 60's.
If it hasn't blown up yet it probably is a decent shooter but not original Brit or Aussie issue.
The bayonet lug may be the tell among other things if I remember right as to being original.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 08:42 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 08:42 PM (fcqmr)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (md3fh)
I usually get in that zone once I've warmed up a bit at the range. It's the closest to a Zen state as I'll ever get.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:36 PM (NWiLs)
it's a great feeling, isn't it? When you're dialed in and everything is clicking.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
i'd check with both American and Canuckistanian customs offices prior to crossing the border. who knows what sort of silliness they might have made policy these days.
HTH!
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (mahnP)
Easiest way to get rid of the flinch and the low left hits.
1. Empty weapon, cocked, PENNY on the slide behind the sight. Continue to cock and pull the trigger making sure the penny doesn't move. Take penny off, load weapon, pull trigger like the penny was still there.
2 Low left - tilting/ dipping the head. Stand up straight, head straight - focus on the target, bring weapon up to the target, not your eye down to the weapon. Remember the penny.
Posted by: Panhandler at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (ILwW3)
I usually get in that zone once I've warmed up a bit at the range. It's the closest to a Zen state as I'll ever get.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:36 PM (NWiLs)
it's a great feeling, isn't it? When you're dialed in and everything is clicking.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
It's amazing. Everything fades away but you and the target.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
So I'd say hold your horses a bit. ITC might know, or red if he's around. Otherwise look on CalGuns.net, a few sub-forums where questions like this come up constantly.
And while you're at it, you need to be up to date on stupid gun laws in all those places you'll be going, of course.
My general rule is don't sell a gun if you like it and use it. Have not yet sold one. You could always put 'em in storage. If you're ready to move on from them or use the proceeds for something else, that's different of course.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (QDnY+)
AirForce Texan SS .45 Cal
https://www.airgundepot.com/airforce-texan-ss.html
and here's a utube of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsSYngXbCc0
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (Q4qzZ)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (md3fh)
Definitely not forbidden in WA, I love there. Oregon has funny concealed carry reciprocity but owning handguns aren't a problem.
California's big bugaboo is capacity. No revolver you've listed will cause problems there. They are death on 10+ detachable magazines, not wheelguns.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:44 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
Are the Hi Points really that much cheaper than the Kel-Tec? I looked at them a while ago and it seemed like actual selling prices were pretty close.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:44 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:45 PM (md3fh)
I usually get in that zone once I've warmed up a bit at the range. It's the closest to a Zen state as I'll ever get.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:36 PM (NWiLs)
it's a great feeling, isn't it? When you're dialed in and everything is clicking.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (xJa6I)
It's amazing. Everything fades away but you and the target.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
Load, fire, load, fire. I blink and suddenly all my ammo boxes are empty.
Those are the good days...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:45 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:45 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 08:41 PM
Had to train with them and a bunch of other old stuff up in the jungle. It really does suck.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:46 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:45 PM (md3fh)
The M&Ps are quality pistols. If you bought one you'd probably like it.
But again, I don't think you NEED to sell your revolvers for legal reasons. But if you want to, different story.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:46 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:39 PM (QDnY+)
Mebbe you have me confused with a different moron. If I had substantial APPl holdings, I wouldn't be asking for opinions on a relatively inexpensive gun. I'd just do it.
But really the only thing holding me back is a desire to not by anymore guns that require paperwork. The price (319.00), is exactly what is making that hard.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 08:46 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2018 08:47 PM (zLDYs)
I'm surprised how accurate it is with the basic iron sights. It makes a big difference over shooting a pistol but the weapon itself isn't terribly large.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:39 PM (xJa6I)
Thanks for the info.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:47 PM (DNH+H)
For transportation within CA, not that complicated (just stupid). Regular car, locked in the trunk. SUV-type vehicle, inside a locked container (undefined, any normal case would be OK). No ammo chambered, no loaded magazines in guns; loaded magazines not in guns OK. That's pretty much it.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
Other than the rollmark with "No 5", the big tells are the lightening cuts on the receiver, and the big lightening dimples cut into the barrel at the chamber end. Impossible to see in that photo though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (eXA4G)
Didn't we tell you to quit fucking with our naval navigation systems? Well, didn't we? But did you listen? Nope, you didn't.
Donny Two-scoops
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (OZpQr)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
Are the Hi Points really that much cheaper than the Kel-Tec? I looked at them a while ago and it seemed like actual selling prices were pretty close.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:44 PM (DNH+H)
It depends on availability in a given locale. Kel Tecs have been hard to find in the past.
I won't ding the Hi Point carbine, though. They're rugged and reliable and sufficiently accurate. If you don't have much money, they're good home defense weapons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (md3fh)
For cleaning, I favor Hoppe's No. 9 cleaner and lubricant. A friend of mine swears by Break Free gun oil. I've also heard good things about Ballistol and meant to try it sometime.
I've given up on the cheap Chinese ammo. My brother gave me several cases, and it doesn't have enough oomph to consistently advance the next round in my favorite handgun after firing. I only used that ammo for target practice, but it just got to be too much of a nuisance. I'm not a re-loader so commercial American made ammo makes the most sense for me.
Posted by: Jill v2 at January 07, 2018 08:49 PM (v86Kx)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:44 PM (DNH+H)
I think there's only about a $100 swing between the two.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:49 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:50 PM (QDnY+)
Just looked up price of Kel Tec. Seems like price went down last I looked years ago. Only about $100 more. Interesting.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:50 PM (2DOZq)
I've noticed just what you're talking about on days I bring the .45s and 9mms to shoot. After 100 rounds of 45, the 9mm feels like a toy.
My concern is I want to my 45 ACP my primary carry caliber (after decades of 9mm, I finally tipped over the line between the two). So the 'dip' seems to happen most often in the first magazine, when I MOST need accuracy, God forbid.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:51 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:52 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:52 PM (QDnY+)
Hey he asked me Butinski. But thanks for confirming.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:52 PM (2DOZq)
If that's the case, I'd have to presume he also has some means of generating his own electricity in there.
But, then, if he has to lock himself in there, I'm not seeing how he closes the door behind him in the first place.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 07, 2018 08:52 PM (wSC8T)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (eXA4G)
Yup!....The Brits were trying to lighten up the carbine as much as possible but maybe went too far.
Thanks again IllT!
As far as the Santa Fe knock offs, they are worth buying if at a good price for the novelty and all. One man's junk is another man's treasure so to speak.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 08:53 PM (EoRCO)
For cleaning, I favor Hoppe's No. 9 cleaner and lubricant. A friend of mine swears by Break Free gun oil. I've also heard good things about Ballistol and meant to try it sometime.
I've given up on the cheap Chinese ammo. My brother gave me several cases, and it doesn't have enough oomph to consistently advance the next round in my favorite handgun after firing. I only used that ammo for target practice, but it just got to be too much of a nuisance. I'm not a re-loader so commercial American made ammo makes the most sense for me.
Posted by: Jill v2 at January 07, 2018 08:49 PM (v86Kx)
Everything you said makes sense
I've stopped buying Tula ammo too. Too many malfunctions in my guns.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:53 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 08:43 PM (mahnP)
I'm pretty sure that handguns are not allowed to be taken into Canada. At all. Long guns, I'm not sure about. But absolutely check for yourself, I'm just a guy on the internet giving legal advice. Which is worth less than what you paid for it.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:53 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:53 PM (md3fh)
285 I see Ruthless getting the same (good) advice from everybody.
For transportation within CA, not that complicated (just stupid). Regular car, locked in the trunk. SUV-type vehicle, inside a locked container (undefined, any normal case would be OK). No ammo chambered, no loaded magazines in guns; loaded magazines not in guns OK. That's pretty much it.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
For transport, that's the way things were as of 3 years ago when I moved away. I don't THINK they made any changes on transport, but a check with the folks at CalGuns should set things straight.
On the case thing, I just used a little combination lock on my pistol soft case. And carried the unloaded and cased pistol in my EDC bag virtually everywhere. Totally legal in most places.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 08:54 PM (eXA4G)
Hey he asked me Butinski. But thanks for confirming.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:52 PM (2DOZq)
Who is this Butinski? He sell you cheap knock-off Adibas track suit, da?
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:54 PM (NWiLs)
rugged and reliable and sufficiently accurate. If you don't have much
money, they're good home defense weapons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:48 PM (xJa6I)
It's not a bad little carbine. Back when I worked at the gun store the owner refused to carry anything Hi Point...except the carbine.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 07, 2018 08:55 PM (yzxic)
Posted by: Butinski at January 07, 2018 08:56 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at January 07, 2018 08:56 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: DB Coooper at January 07, 2018 08:56 PM (vakyQ)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:51 PM (xJa6I)
I know what you mean. My advice is range-oriented, not SHTF applicable. But really, at 7 to 10 yds missing low by an inch will still ruin a thugs day.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 08:56 PM (z79tQ)
Heh. I've got a their .45 pistol in camo. They were almost giving it away so I had to buy it. It's a freaking anvil.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:57 PM (2DOZq)
Just looked up price of Kel Tec. Seems like price went down last I looked years ago. Only about $100 more. Interesting.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:50 PM (2DOZq)
Yeah, I looked at them a couple of years ago and they were selling for a couple hundred $$$ *over* MSRP. Crazy. Recently I've seen them at more reasonable prices.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:58 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:51 PM (xJa6I)
I know what you mean. My advice is range-oriented, not SHTF applicable. But really, at 7 to 10 yds missing low by an inch will still ruin a thugs day.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 08:56 PM (z79tQ)
That was my thought. If it came to a serious fight, I'd aim for upper chest and if rounds stray, it's still going to do something bad to a bad person.
But I'd rather just have the bullets go where I want them to. By magic.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:58 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Infidel at January 07, 2018 08:59 PM (EGFUD)
Just looked up price of Kel Tec. Seems like price went down last I looked years ago. Only about $100 more. Interesting.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 08:50 PM (2DOZq)
Yeah, I looked at them a couple of years ago and they were selling for a couple hundred $$$ *over* MSRP. Crazy. Recently I've seen them at more reasonable prices.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:58 PM (DNH+H)
Same thing happened with the KSG.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:59 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: DB Coooper at January 07, 2018 08:56 PM
It went better with the bayonet attached. Accurate enough for point blank range, but that close, you might as well just use the bayonet.
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 08:59 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 08:58 PM
I second that.
Would be much cheaper too.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:03 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 08:58 PM (DNH+H)
Same thing happened with the KSG.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 08:59 PM (NWiLs)
Yeah, since Chocolate Jesus left town, gun prices seem to be returning to something close to sane. I hope the same thing happens to reloading components.
Thanks You, Donnie Two Scoops.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 07, 2018 09:03 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 09:04 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Ah. A fellow traveler. Aside from being a nice firearm, in the functional sense, the ability to 'shape' the grip is particularly nice.
For those who do not know, if you observe the picture at the top of the link, you will notice that there is a hole at the lower left corner of the grip. There is a roll-pin which can be driven out, that releases the backstrap. Sliding the backstrap down releases it, and the two side grip panels as well.
I am uncertain as to whether or not there are aftermarket backstraps/side panels available, but HK has three different sets, with different profiles/thicknesses. That makes for six different grip configurations.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2018 09:05 PM (w1zJX)
As far as the Santa Fe knock offs, they are worth buying if at a good price for the novelty and all. One man's junk is another man's treasure so to speak.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 07, 2018 08:53 PM (EoRCO)
As long as the Santa Fe conversion was based on a No 4 at a decent price, I'd jump on it, just as a bruiser.
I have a really rough (seriously bubba'd) Savage-built No 4 sporter conversion that I picked up for super cheap to have it converted to 7.62x39 by SIA. Of course, before I could get it sent over, they stopped doing the conversion. Later on, I decided to have them do their 45 Auto conversion instead. Of course, they stopped doing that one too.
They occasionally still do a run of the 45 Auto conversion parts. I'll have to pick up a kit and either do it myself or have it built for me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 09:05 PM (eXA4G)
Take care, you all rock.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 07, 2018 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
SUV/Pickup, as far apart as possible.
because #Failifornia
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:06 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: ALH at January 07, 2018 09:06 PM (fjf5L)
Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within
California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for
sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed
firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California
by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic
handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns
are exempt from this requirement.
so, unless you're bringing them here to sell them, you're good to go.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:07 PM (mahnP)
This is a movement, people! The Pittsburgh Penguins are wearing black tonight, too!!
Posted by: FireHorse at January 07, 2018 09:07 PM (y+SdL)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 09:04 PM (2DOZq)
And I love my co Workers ( all women) . They know I have a CHL and keep my G19 in the car. They all tell me occasionally when the subject comes up that I need to carry at work or at least bring it in my brief case. I don't tell them that I have my Kel tec.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 09:08 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:09 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:11 PM (KP5rU)
However, I'm fairly sure that if I need one, it will
a) be dark
2) be close up, whether in the house or the street
III) be a suprise
So my go-to has been a .380 with crimson trace sight. I can't say enough good things about that set-up. Take it to an indoor range where I can better see the dot at least once a year to make sure it's calibrated to point of aim, and I"ve every confidence that my shots will be close enough.
I'm equally confident that I'll not have time to get into a stance, get a good sight picture, and squeeze nicely. In all likelihood I'll be using one arm to defend myself while I'm going backwards or falling. I sure don't want to shoot that arm, but I am going to want to get a shot off before I'm prostrate.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:11 PM (z79tQ)
why?
because.
when i'm taking a number of pistols to the range, i just load them into a Home Despot tool box, layering them with cheap towels, and put a lock on it.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:11 PM (mahnP)
This is a movement, people! The Pittsburgh Penguins are wearing black tonight, too!!
Posted by: FireHorse at January 07, 2018 09:07 PM (y+SdL)
If they truly wanted to "make a statement" they'd boycott the damn thing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 09:11 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:13 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: ALH at January 07, 2018 09:14 PM (fjf5L)
*sigh*
Posted by: Infidel at January 07, 2018 09:14 PM (EGFUD)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 09:05 PM
It's definitely a bruiser. Get a bayonet. It'll help with accuracy and besides, it does look cool with a bayonet on it!
Posted by: otho at January 07, 2018 09:14 PM (qGuLD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:15 PM (suYcl)
I kind of put mine in different places for a "just in case" need to use...B4 the accident. I have a safe but that is for expensive trap and collector guns.
Mostly they used to be hidden but accessible throughout the house. No kids in the house, but mine were taught to respect firearms early, like when they got their first 10/22.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 07, 2018 09:15 PM (3BFzK)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM (hyuyC)
326 from the CA DOJ website:
Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within
California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for
sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed
firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California
by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic
handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns
are exempt from this requirement.
so, unless you're bringing them here to sell them, you're good to go.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:07 PM (mahnP)
Yup.
For anyone foolish enough to move TO California, as of 3 years ago when I last checked, you could bring your guns in (no assault weapons, normal-capacity mags etc of course) even if they aren't on the handgun list. You do the handgun registration form with CA DOJ, and once you've established CA residency you can sell them via person-to-person transfer within the state.
Which is how a lot of non-handgun list pistols get into CA legally. The rest are by cops buying them via the cop exemption and selling p-to-p. But that gets dicey for the cops anymore. State DOJ started clamping down on that a few years ago, charging local cops as unlicensed gun dealers.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM (eXA4G)
This is a movement, people! The Pittsburgh Penguins are wearing black tonight, too!!
Posted by: FireHorse at January 07, 2018 09:07 PM
Don't penguins always wear black?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM (IqV8l)
except bull pups.
they look ghey, no matter what you do.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 07, 2018 09:17 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:18 PM (suYcl)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 09:18 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:18 PM (KP5rU)
I tried out something he uses. For black powder and substitutes cleaning: Ballistol and water (1 to 4 ratio).
Works verrrrry nicely!
Ed's Red is a good one. For copper fouling, I like Butch's Bore Shine. Another good one is Sweet's 7.62 Bore Cleaning Solvent.
Now to finish the content and read comments.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 07, 2018 09:18 PM (di1hb)
except bull pups.
they look ghey, no matter what you do.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM (mahnP)
Don't the palace guards have that configuration now?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 09:18 PM (2DOZq)
Unless they are undercover, then they wear banana hammocks with twin 6 shooters...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 07, 2018 09:19 PM (T/KY7)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 07, 2018 09:17 PM (Ndje9)
regarding the first; plenty do, that's how they get the part.
regarding the second, I'm sure plenty do. You just don't go accusing them of it, in case I'm wrong.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:19 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 09:20 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 07, 2018 09:20 PM (2DOZq)
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Why should I pay attention to the PRoC laws if the PRoC does not pay attention to the Constitution and federal laws.
I'm not kidding. It is all open AFAIC.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 07, 2018 09:20 PM (3BFzK)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 09:22 PM (QCX64)
except bull pups.
they look ghey, no matter what you do.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM
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As an engineer bullpups are awesome. Never shot one but the idea is brilliant.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 07, 2018 09:22 PM (3BFzK)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:22 PM (suYcl)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 07, 2018 09:23 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 07, 2018 09:24 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 07, 2018 09:24 PM (+y/Ru)
And one with two words in the nic. Soros is sending us their best quality operatives now.
Hey NSA Bob, capture the IP for us please.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 09:24 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: A Potted Plant at January 07, 2018 09:25 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:26 PM (suYcl)
You would think 6" stiletto heels would be weapon enough. And I hope the steel cups are fleece lined.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 09:26 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:27 PM (suYcl)
Posted by: Phil O. Dendren at January 07, 2018 09:28 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 07, 2018 09:28 PM (T/KY7)
THEY'VE GONE FULL JOHNNY CASH!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel
Instead of color they should broadcast in black and black.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 09:28 PM (IqV8l)
Colanders? Breast milk had to be filtered? New to me.
Maybe she could go full steampunk with some rad goggles.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 09:30 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Phil O. Dendren at January 07, 2018 09:28 PM (Ndje9)
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Harvey doesn't do faggot plants his focus is ficus.
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 09:30 PM (fcqmr)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 07, 2018 09:20 PM (3BFzK)
.---
because they will put you in prison, to make an example of you.
i agree with your sentiment, but i'm too old, too sick and too white to do time...
and i don't look good in orange, anyway.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:32 PM (mahnP)
Yes. Good, reliable pistol. I have both the full size and the "c". Neither have ever hiccuped. Also have a SR45 and the same for it.
Posted by: Agitator at January 07, 2018 09:34 PM (F7Dlk)
THEY'VE GONE FULL JOHNNY CASH!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel
Instead of color they should broadcast in black and black.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 09:28 PM (IqV8l)
Black clothes matter!
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ALH at January 07, 2018 09:35 PM (fjf5L)
Because he wanted to know who in his county was packing.
Never heard from him again.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at January 07, 2018 07:11 PM (iiixZ)
Who? Everybody
Posted by: County Sheriff Tex at January 07, 2018 09:37 PM (fcqmr)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 09:37 PM (sdi6R)
Anna Puma, thank you for expanding my fashion knowledge. I seem to have led a sheltered life.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 07, 2018 09:37 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: ALH at January 07, 2018 09:35 PM (fjf5L)
No, some troll is being a douchenozzle.
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 09:37 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Agitator at January 07, 2018 09:34 PM (F7Dlk)
Thanks. I wanted to hear from an actual user/owner.
Good shooter?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:38 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:38 PM (mahnP)
Unless they are undercover, then they wear banana hammocks with twin 6 shooters...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits
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Heh. 'Feathers' McGraw draws his gun http://tinyurl.com/y79ccb9b
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2018 09:38 PM (w1zJX)
Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 07, 2018 09:37 PM (NWiLs)
Thanks, Insomniac. I thought there was something wrong with my laptop.
Whew!
Posted by: ALH at January 07, 2018 09:38 PM (fjf5L)
Posted by: jsg at January 07, 2018 09:38 PM (bwN1x)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 07, 2018 09:39 PM (r+sAi)
Never heard from him again.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at January 07, 2018 07:11 PM (iiixZ)
So you passed his smell test.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:39 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:39 PM (suYcl)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:40 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 09:37 PM (sdi6R)
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since it's a classified mission, Wikileaks will be doing the press release.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:40 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:41 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: ALH at January 07, 2018 09:41 PM (fjf5L)
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Butt biscotti are extra.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 07, 2018 09:41 PM (+y/Ru)
except bull pups.
they look ghey, no matter what you do.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:16 PM
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As an engineer bullpups are awesome. Never shot one but the idea is brilliant.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 07, 2018 09:22 PM (3BFzK)
I don't think I'd care to try to buttstroke someone with a bullpup rifle. Much prefer a standard action rifle. There's no "small of the stock" on most bullpups/
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 07, 2018 09:42 PM (di1hb)
SoCal history, back when the state wasn't stupid.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:42 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:43 PM (suYcl)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:44 PM (mahnP)
the Amazon phone number is in? i've got a long standing return issue
the seller is being an absolute dick about.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:44 PM (mahnP)
Their general help line is 1-888-280-4331, you can also have them call you.
Posted by: josephistan at January 07, 2018 08:38 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 07, 2018 09:46 PM (yzxic)
Posted by: ibguy at January 07, 2018 09:46 PM (vUcdz)
since it's a classified mission, Wikileaks will be doing the press release.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:40 PM (mahnP)
Probably!
Posted by: rickl at January 07, 2018 09:47 PM (sdi6R)
Jon Cooper@joncoopertweets
Professional stylist Katie Price, who previously worked as a hair and makeup artist for Russia Today, is now a full-time White House official. Her daily duties include getting press secretary Sarah Sanders coiffed and camera-ready.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 07, 2018 09:48 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:48 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: a horny dolphin, but aren't we all? at January 07, 2018 09:48 PM (QCX64)
it's been said before, but let me echo it, because it's true: G*d bless the Horde, all y'all are awesome!
(even the ones who are dicks a lot of the time)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:48 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: dartist at January 07, 2018 09:50 PM (nisXv)
I don't think I'd care to try to buttstroke someone with a bullpup rifle.
Sounds like a Shep Smith line.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 07, 2018 09:50 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:48 PM (KP5rU)
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nope, but i'll take it off your hands for $20 AND i'll pay for shipping.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:50 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2018 09:50 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 07, 2018 09:50 PM (Q4qzZ)
Posted by: jsg at January 07, 2018 09:51 PM (bwN1x)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:51 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: gNewt at January 07, 2018 09:52 PM (fcqmr)
that sort of thing. it's a specialized market, but you could do a quick look at Gun Broker, Guns America, etc, and see what's out there, then find someone in your area with the knowledge to look at it and give you the straight scoop.
if you were here in SoCal, i could hook you up with the right folks, but....
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:53 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:48 PM (KP5rU)
They are fun to shoot, just load BP. That set up is probably Indian Wars, and there are some serious collectors
Check prices on gunbroker.com or any of the auction houses.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2018 09:54 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 07, 2018 09:42 PM (di1hb)
So, a Mosin guy, huh?
Still a stand off weapon, whether you're clubbin or stabbin em.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:54 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:54 PM (KP5rU)
If he can afford that door and that room he can afford to have 1/4" plate behind that paneling.
Good point and probably true for a firewall as well?
Posted by: dartist at January 07, 2018 09:54 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 09:55 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: gNewt
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If it was planned from inception, then it would have been dirt cheap to have rebar dropped in the concrete block, and the block cells filled with poured cement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2018 09:55 PM (y3sT9)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:57 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 07, 2018 09:58 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 07, 2018 09:42 PM (di1hb)
So, a Mosin guy, huh?
Still a stand off weapon, whether you're clubbin or stabbin em.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 07, 2018 09:54 PM (z79tQ)
That or an -03 or a Garand, etc. Love a steel buttplate.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 07, 2018 09:59 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: the old man at January 07, 2018 09:59 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: dartist at January 07, 2018 09:59 PM (nisXv)
How long do you have to cure hobo femurs before you can starting cutting out slabs for grips? And do you oil them or seal them with polyurethane?
Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 07, 2018 10:00 PM (T/KY7)
Posted by: lin-duh at January 07, 2018 10:00 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 07, 2018 10:01 PM (mahnP)
Posted by: dartist at January 07, 2018 10:02 PM (nisXv)
https://tinyurl.com/y82xzho2
Posted by: jsg
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You know who completely skated on a similar deal? The Democratic National Convention Committee, in 2012. They obtained a loan based upon their estimates for fund raising. Guess what? They never came close. They defaulted on a $10 Million loan, and not a peep was made. State Attorney General was...wait for it...a Democrat. Even better, he's now Governor.
Oh, yes. One of the chairmen on the Convention Committee that arranged the loan? Obama appointed the guy Sec. of Transportation. Just coincidence.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2018 10:04 PM (9tO1t)
Friendswood gun range closed after accidental shooting
By Lindsay Ellis Updated 6:21 pm, Sunday, January 7, 2018
Best Shot Range in Friendswood closed Sunday after a gunshot injury caused by a weapon malfunction.
A man was shooting a handgun at the range, and when he attempted to clear the weapon, the gun discharged, according to the Harris County Sheriff's Office.
That agency, in a post to Twitter, called the discharge a "malfunction" and said the shooter was hospitalized in "good condition."
The shooting range's management said in a statement that an investigation is underway and that all safety measures were taken.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 07, 2018 10:07 PM (+y/Ru)
camping trip in BC, Alta. and Alaska this summer, and do not want to
become bear shit. I remember years ago going through Canada and my
Ithaca 12 ga. and box of slugs did raise any eyebrows with the Canucks.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 07, 2018 08:34 PM (md3fh)
Contact Canada Customs via the internet before going to the border with your gun. AKAIK, a U.S. citizen can bring long arms into Canada for hunting, if booked to hunt with a guide service. And that is about it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 07, 2018 10:09 PM (sD2WN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 07, 2018 09:27 PM (suYcl)
Be a shame if she strained a boobie.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 07, 2018 10:24 PM (sD2WN)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 07, 2018 10:26 PM (PUmDY)
Beep
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at January 07, 2018 10:32 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 08, 2018 12:36 AM (mahnP)
Posted by: Rocket Jones at January 08, 2018 06:15 AM (B+qrE)
North American Arms .22LR 4.5 ounces. So there is that.
Posted by: dickdurk at January 08, 2018 07:56 AM (h81CE)
That was sweet. An H&K G3 ready to rock at hand.
Posted by: Braden Lynch at January 10, 2018 02:27 AM (pRnlX)
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