Saturday Evening Movie Thread 01-06-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Going Downhill, Fast

A phenomenon has always fascinated me about franchise movies: their inexorable fall into mediocrity and eventually awfulness. You have an original film that may or may not have had sequels in mind when they made it. It’s usually some level of box office success that leads to the sequels, so the original film’s quality isn’t really that important to the business decision. I’m never surprised that a terrible first film begets terrible sequels. What fascinates me is the series that begin with a good, maybe even a great film, and quickly descend into terribleness.

I think we can all bring to mind some example of a great movie that never should have had a sequel, but did anyway because it made so much money and the studio needed to try and take advantage of that zeitgeist. Jaws is the film that comes to mind first, for me. No one really cares about the sequels, and most consider the original to be one of the great American films, but the first sequel isn’t really terrible. Still, a fall from greatness to mediocrity is pretty precipitous.

Thinking this way, a while ago I started wondering about what series started out at the highest point and fell the furthest fastest. It was just an idle thought until I watched Death Wish 2.

Death Wish

Since we’re all 29, no one here should remember the release of the original Death Wish, but many critics called it exploitative trash at the time. I think the movie flirts with exploitation, but it has such a strong emotional and thematic core around Charles Bronson’s character and his feelings of helplessness in the face of the violence that befell his daughter and the police’s inability, or perhaps unwillingness, to do anything about it. He starts as a quiet, unassuming family man who feels compelled to take up justice in his own hands because the system has failed him.

In the process of his journey, though, Bronson ends up losing a chunk of his humanity. The final shot of the film, as Bronson looks towards camera and fires a finger gun, we see that the good man who started the movie is gone. Whether it’s a tragic effect of a failed system or his own decisions, the movie never makes clear, leaving it up to the audience.

I was really shocked at how much I liked the movie when I first saw it. It was much more serious, level-headed, and un-exploitative than the larger culture had painted it to be.

The first sequel though, is pure garbage. It’s everything the critics said the original was, but were wrong about the first time. It’s dumb, makes no sense, and is pure exploitation. Bronson’s character is no longer a complex man in the face of a large immovable force, he’s just a brute with a gun.

Reasons

In the case of Death Wish specifically, I think the problem is that the original just isn’t built for a sequel, especially one that just tries to retread the same plot points as the original. Death Wish became a cultural joke because it kept trying to mine the same well which meant that not only was Charles Bronson going to just keep doing the same things over and over again, but that he was going to run out of close relatives to avenge pretty quickly. Hell, by the third movie it was an old war buddy we had never heard of before.

We talked about similar problems in the Alien series a few months back. Fox kept making the same movie over and over again. The sequels’ only saving graces (fewer and fewer as we got to movies 3 and 4) was that each one felt very different from the last. Yes, they were compromised narratives that basically just remade the first movie again, but they tried to do something differently.

I like to imagine that someday we’ll get an incredibly offbeat direct sequel to a box office smash hit. We’ll get the first movie where Will Smith is a smarmy badass who delivers smackdowns on bad guys, but the second movie is about Smith trying to patch up his relationship with his wife who he abandoned early in the first movie with nary an actions scene to be found.

The thing is, it seems like studios will only make those kinds of bets when they’ve completely exhausted a property and have let it cool for at least a decade. I got a free copy of Jason Bourne for signing up for the Movies Anywhere service and watched it this week. I saw a great idea for a movie buried in there, one where Jason Bourne comes back to the fold, is welcomed in, but Vincent Cassel’s character (who was captured and tortured specifically because of what Bourne did at the end of the third movie) is out to get revenge. In every Bourne movie, Bourne plays one side of the cat and mouse game, but this idea would put him on the other side, flipping the script. And it would expand on the original ideas of the series. Should Bourne let someone whom he wronged in the past take their vengeance on him? "I apologized to that Russian girl at the end of The Bourne Supremacy," wouldn't fly with Cassel. Considering the vengeance that Bourne was happy to take out on those who wronged him, it has the potential to be interesting, especially over what we actually got.

It's exactly what James Cameron did so well with Terminator 2: Judgment Day. We still got an action movie about robots from the future, even keeping the same cast (minus poor, underappreciated Michael Beihn). But, we got a movie that feels very different from the original, has a different point, and even expands on the original’s ideas about fate. It was both the same and different in all the right ways where the Death Wish sequels were all just the same in every way.

A Note on Best of 2017

I'm still compiling the list of nominations, but I'll present the list to you all next week for voting.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Insidious: The Last Key

Next in my Netflix Queue:

Movies I Saw This Week:
All the Money in the World (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) Poster blurb: "Taught and involving with a wonderful central performance from Michelle Williams." [Theater]
Hairspray (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Good natured and a bit infectious. Ricky Lake is great." [Netflix DVD]
Tropic Thunder (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) [Rewatch] "Hilarious sendup of Hollywood pretensions." [Personal Collection]
Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) [Rewatch] "A bit messy (ex's 3 and 5&6 feel underdone), but so much fun to watch that I can't help but love it." [Personal Collection]
Jason Bourne (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "Tommy Lee Jones and Vincent Cassel continue the series' great casting of bad guys, but the series has fully descended into formula with this one." [Personal Collection]
Troy (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) [Rewatch] "Wolfgang Peterson is a pretty good action director, but this movie needed so much more than a pretty good action director." [Personal Collection]
About Time (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "One of my favorite movies of the last decade." [Personal Collection]
Gone Girl (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "I don't know who convinced David Fincher to make trashy nonsense, but he's damn good at it." [Personal Collection]

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Posted by: OregonMuse at 06:48 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (qCKDU)

2 Matrix

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (ycWCI)

3 Only sequel that's worth a damn is Aliens.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (8ADHC)

4 Two in one day!

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (qCKDU)

5 SpiderMan 2

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (ycWCI)

6 Hate Bourne

Posted by: CN at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (W4xXw)

7 John Wick (to be fair, I have not seen John Wick 2- and the reason is I do not want John Wick to be ruined for me.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (ycWCI)

8 Tropic Thunder is great if you go in knowing it's Tom Cruise's greatest role.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (qCKDU)

9 3 Only sequel that's worth a damn is Aliens.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (8ADHC)

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Someone hasn't seen Teen Wolf 2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:46 PM (Jj43a)

10 6 Hate Bourne
Posted by: CN at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (W4xXw)

My biggest thing is that I do not see what everyone loves about it. It is a semi-effective movie with a premise that just reminds me of Long Kiss... Goodnight/Goodbye (?Gena Davis and Samuel L Jackson.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:46 PM (ycWCI)

11 Uh, uh...boobies

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 06:46 PM (xJa6I)

12 Got a bone to pick with the reveiws of Darkest Hour, finally took just the other day to read Churchill's never happens subway ride and revelation was caused by a interracial couple and a Caribbean immigrant, who both magically appear in 1940 London.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

13 Sorry, I panicked. I'll read the content now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (xJa6I)

14 8 Tropic Thunder is great if you go in knowing it's Tom Cruise's greatest role.
Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (qCKDU)

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I prefer him in Magnolia.

There he's an unlikeable asshole with no redeeming qualities. His character in Tropic Thunder is at least entertaining.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (Jj43a)

15 top 20 why cant black people have guns?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-gun-ownership_us_5a33fc38e4b040881bea2f37

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (BtQd4)

16 Dirty Harry was a strong franchise.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (hFWuh)

17 I would put the Alien franchise down as one that has declined the most. Just fucking awful.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (qJtVm)

18 17 I would put the Alien franchise down as one that has declined the most. Just fucking awful.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (qJtVm)

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But what fell the furthest the fastest?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:49 PM (Jj43a)

19

I wanna hear about Darkest Hour from any visitors to same...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (T/KY7)

20 Die Hard never should have had any sequels.

They immediately undermine the 'regular guy caught in extraordinary situation' when there's two, three, four 'extraordinary situations.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (oVJmc)

21 Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (g4lFK)

22 Borne is a guilty pleasure for me, its Leftist bubble all the way

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (aC6Sd)

23 16 Dirty Harry was a strong franchise.
Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (hFWuh)

The first was great. Magnum Force was good. Sudden Impact was kind of a down hill. But I enjoyed Dead Pool.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (ycWCI)

24 17 I would put the Alien franchise down as one that has declined the most. Just fucking awful.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (qJtVm)

1 and 2 were great, and then it all went to shit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 06, 2018 06:51 PM (NWiLs)

25 But enough of decline, how about celebrating the awesome?

I just saw "Brawl in Cell Block 99" and it was surprisingly well done. It was a bare bones violent flick that still had tons more character development and better pacing than most of the bloated dreck currently out there.

It takes a strong stomach though - it is literally bone-crunching.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 06:51 PM (qJtVm)

26 I thought the subway ride was a poor choice In Darkest hour since you didn't even have to know the history to figure that didn't happen. Besides I'm sure Churchill knew a lot about what ordinary people thought even without taking a subway ride.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 06:51 PM (8+Ozj)

27 I always liked Charlie Bronson.

He always came across as a regular dude.

I especially liked his role in "The Mechanic" when he prepares for his next hit and he lays out all the info on his target to some nice music and fine wine in his lair.

Plus the guy was a rock before steroids and personal trainers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 06:52 PM (EoRCO)

28 Gone Girl was a masterpiece of modern day male/female relationships/power/and nature. David Fincher is a genius.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 06:52 PM (g4lFK)

29 2001 was one for the ages. Everything after that was crrraaaappppp.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 06:52 PM (LAe3v)

30 Sequels mostly don't work because they aren't the product of a storyteller telling a single story (or multiple stories) that build to a SERIES climax.

The first three Star Wars movies did in fact build to something. That 'arc' allowed the Empire Strikes Back to be as good as it was. It had the freedom to go somewhere unexpected because it was building to the eventual defeat of the Emperor and redemption of Darth Vader.

Most franchise movies do not have the same creator or creative team working on them. The closest I can think of is Kevin Feige riding herd over the Marvel movies.

So since you don't have a single storyteller or a single story, you get...drift. Formula. The same + Moar Explodey.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 06:52 PM (xJa6I)

31 'Malcolm X' must be the greatest sequel ever, because you never even hear about the first 9 movies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 06:52 PM (oVJmc)

32 Only the first Death Wish is worth watching. Anybody know if they're still doing that same old stuntman schtick at Old Tucson Studios?

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 06:52 PM (EzdLW)

33 Agree about Aliens 1 &2, crap there after

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (aC6Sd)

34 "Scarlett", the sequel to GWTW was a made-for-tv movie back in the 1980s or '90s. Starred Timothy Dalton. Very mediocre and soap-opera-ish from what I understand. I didn't read the novel, Scarlett, either. The sequel novel was a bastardization approved by the Mitchell estate. Another book sequel was "Rhett Butler's People," also approved and also mediocre.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (LQLeS)

35 In the process of his journey, though, Bronson ends up losing a chunk of his humanity.
No family and failed by government what is the purpose of humanity? He made a choice, did what was needed, and goes on to live his life. No more or less human than anyone else.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (BtQd4)

36 Oh and Death Wish 2, 3 and 4 are wonderful.
They just happen to be action movies and not dramas.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (xJa6I)

37 20 Die Hard never should have had any sequels.

They immediately undermine the 'regular guy caught in extraordinary situation' when there's two, three, four 'extraordinary situations.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (oVJmc)

Two was the worst IMHO. Order is 1,3,4,2.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (g4lFK)

38 31
'Malcolm X' must be the greatest sequel ever, because you never even hear about the first 9 movies.

I know, right. What about the prequels to XXX?

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (LAe3v)

39 I thought Hateful Eight was a good, mean, kickass western. I wish there were more good Westerns.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (nisXv)

40 The Rocky franchise, though I can't say it went downhill consistently. 1 and 2 were pretty good, 3 was OK, 4 was OK, 5 was horrendous, but then the last two weren't too bad.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (NWiLs)

41 The Nolan Batmans were pretty strong from start to finish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (ycWCI)

42 39 I thought Hateful Eight was a good, mean, kickass western. I wish there were more good Westerns.
Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (nisXv)

I made it about 15 minutes in and was bored shitless so I turned it off.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 06, 2018 06:54 PM (NWiLs)

43 39 I thought Hateful Eight was a good, mean, kickass western. I wish there were more good Westerns.
Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 06:53 PM (nisXv)

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That's a surprisingly unpopular opinion around here. I love it myself, but it seems like everyone else hates it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:54 PM (Jj43a)

44 Made-for-TV movies are a genre all their own, and most are not very good. (not to be confused with mini-series.)

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 06:54 PM (LQLeS)

45 That 'arc' allowed the Empire Strikes Back to be as good as it was.

At the risk of sounding like I'm just trying to be iconoclastic, I thought that movie was just awful, the worst kind of drek. The first one was okay, largely because of the poor quality of its competition at the time, but the other two are unwatchable IMO.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (LAe3v)

46 Could the Eastwood spaghetti westerns be considered a franchise?

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (aC6Sd)

47 Do prequels count as sequels for this blog post?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (g4lFK)

48 Mr. Majestyk.

Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (zLDYs)

49 And I thought Darkest Hour was a little slow in some parts, (My son few asleep but his dad and I didn't from years of watching PBS Masterpiece Theatre things. However I thought Gary Oldman was magnificent. Worth it to go just to see him, besides seeing the brilliance of Churchill. There was a quote about him in the movie. Something like he "mobilized the English language an sent it into battle"-which he did.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (8+Ozj)

50 The Naked Gun comedies were pretty good, had me laughing.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (LQLeS)

51 12 Got a bone to pick with the reveiws of Darkest Hour, finally took just the other day to read Churchill's never happens subway ride and revelation was caused by a interracial couple and a Caribbean immigrant, who both magically appear in 1940 London.
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)
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I know that London was and is one of the most cosmopolitan of cities, but that just seemed forced to me, like they were ticking off a diversity slot. It took me out of the movie for a second.

I also noticed the Pakistani guy on the street, whom they used a couple times walking back and forth to give some color to the crowd.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (qJtVm)

52 27. Bronson was a rock.

Yeah....went to work in the mines when he was 10. WWII interrupted that.

Tough old Polack.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (fA1SL)

53 I made it about 15 minutes in and was bored shitless so I turned it off.

Maybe I'm easily amused, but I thought it was action packed.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (nisXv)

54 45 That 'arc' allowed the Empire Strikes Back to be as good as it was.

At the risk of sounding like I'm just trying to be iconoclastic, I thought that movie was just awful, the worst kind of drek. The first one was okay, largely because of the poor quality of its competition at the time, but the other two are unwatchable IMO.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (LAe3v)

I don't mind anyone hating anything so long as they have a reason.

Why didn't you like Empire and Jedi?

Personally, I prefer the first one the most but I can see why folks like Empire.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (xJa6I)

55 Rocky IV was the best.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (g4lFK)

56 The first was great. Magnum Force was good. Sudden Impact was kind of a down hill. But I enjoyed Dead Pool.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (ycWCI)

The Enforcer was one of the better ones just because of some of the scenes like the one with Mrs. Grey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 06:56 PM (SiINZ)

57
I turned off hateful 8 after 30 minutes because it was insulting my intelligence.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (1mtMy)

58 Years ago Mac Davis was in my church new member class. Pastor asked we submit any questions re:God. One wiseacre wrote: 'Why would God allow Sting 2 to be made?' MD busted a gut.

Posted by: Jean Shallot at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (bc2Lc)

59 15 top 20 why cant black people have guns?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-gun-ownership_us_5a33fc38e4b040881bea2f37
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 06:48 PM (BtQd4)

It's because background checks are racist because black folks are incapable of getting proper ID. Therefore background checks should be Unconstitutional as a racist barrier to the Second Amendment.

what do I win?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (tMFgx)

60 Planet of the Apes.

Roddy McDowell once explained that they cut the budget on each sequel.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (7JbXq)

61 Never saw"Jaws-the revenge" but Roy Schneider was quite a good actor in the original movie so that i wouldn't have minded seeing him in a sequel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (8+Ozj)

62 Tropic Thunder
Tom Cruise a a rap loving jewish lawyer.
Les Grossman: You paying attention? Im talking G5, Pecker! Thats how you can roll. No more frequent flyer bitch miles for my boy! Oh yeah! Playa playa! Big dick playa!

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (BtQd4)

63 46 Could the Eastwood spaghetti westerns be considered a franchise?
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (aC6Sd)

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They're grouped together, but the third one Clint plays a distinctly different character from the first two, which are most likely directly connected. Hell, in the third one he's got a name!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (Jj43a)

64 Well there was the Tremors series, that didn't have far to go down really. And Army of Darkness, since that pretty much was a continuation of the story (and search to find another zombie shark to jump) and done in a completely insane manner.

Both of these are grade B movies with very talented cast and crew. Maybe that is the secret, never take yourself too seriously.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (2K6fY)

65 Ewoks. That was quite the fall.

Posted by: t-bird at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (clYld)

66 Troy (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) [Rewatch] "Wolfgang Peterson is a pretty good action director, but this movie needed so much more than a pretty good action director."

++++

Not sure what you mean by that. I enjoyed it more than you, but your criticism is vague, so I don't know why you didn't care much for it.

BTW, the link for this one is no good, It is a dupe of the Jason Bourne one

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (FUu/Z)

67 Went downhill after Hateful Two

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (IqV8l)

68 Why didn't you like Empire and Jedi?

Mostly because the acting and dialogue was soooo bad, it took me out of the movie. Also, the Ewoks were so cheesy and obvious, I just couldn't stay involved.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (LAe3v)

69
I just read the Jerry Van Dyke passed away. RIP

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (SiINZ)

70 I like the Rocky movies, too. All of them bring something to the table, they get to be a little too formulaic but none of them are a huge drop off in quality.....except Rocky 5. That one stunk on ice. But Rocky Balboa was good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (xJa6I)

71 61 Never saw"Jaws-the revenge" but Roy Schneider was quite a good actor in the original movie so that i wouldn't have minded seeing him in a sequel.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (8+Ozj)
Roy smoked so much they wrote it into the movie.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (BtQd4)

72 They should have let Jaws win and live.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 06:59 PM (g4lFK)

73 But what fell the furthest the fastest?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:49 PM (Jj43a)

Toss up between Caddyshack 2 and Christmas Vacation 2.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 06:59 PM (QLvwG)

74 Whoever thought Caddyshack 2 was a good idea shouldn't have ever been allowed near the industry again.

Posted by: jsg at January 06, 2018 06:59 PM (DhcsO)

75
remember 52 PICKUP?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 06:59 PM (1mtMy)

76

Personally, I prefer the first one the most but I can see why folks like Empire.

I think Empire has it easier because it's all set-up-- it just has to put all the characters on the edge or in peril, then it ends, and the third movie has to deal with all those loose ends.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

77 I saw one of the Jaws sequels on TV. There were a bunch of teenagers that had been shipwrecked and were floating on wreckage. A rescue helicopter equipped with floats attempted to land on the ocean.

I KNEW the shark was going to attack the helicopter, and that's exactly what happened. It grabbed ahold of one of the floats and flipped the chopper over.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (sdi6R)

78 Personally, I prefer the first one the most but I can see why folks like Empire.

From the first movie, Carrie Fisher's laughable "your foul stench" just ruined the whole thing.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (LAe3v)

79
Stars Wars ran out of gas with Return of the Jedi. The prequels were pure crap and I've only seen the Farce Awakens and it was boring and stupid

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (SiINZ)

80
What was that other mob movie Roy Scheider was in? It was good.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (1mtMy)

81 That's a surprisingly unpopular opinion around here. I love it myself, but it seems like everyone else hates it.

Maybe it's the style of Tarantino. I liked Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction too.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (nisXv)

82 The Trouble With Angels Part Deux totally sucked.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (7JbXq)

83 75
remember 52 PICKUP?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 06:59 PM (1mtMy)

I do. Some of my favorite porn stars are in it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (xJa6I)

84 It's because background checks are racist because black folks are incapable of getting proper ID. Therefore background checks should be Unconstitutional as a racist barrier to the Second Amendment.

what do I win?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 06, 2018 06:57 PM (tMFgx)
A free law degree diploma. Send $86,500 to PO Box 501 and I will send you the paper.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (BtQd4)

85 Movies that are remakes of old TV shows are pretty bad. I'm thinking Bewitched, The Flintsones, Beverly Hillbillies, Dark Shadows, Dennis the Menace, Leave it to Beaver, etc. They were churning out such movies in the nineties for the most part, odd trend.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (LQLeS)

86 84. 'Amd remain blessed.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (fA1SL)

87 66 Not sure what you mean by that. I enjoyed it more than you, but your criticism is vague, so I don't know why you didn't care much for it.

BTW, the link for this one is no good, It is a dupe of the Jason Bourne one
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (FUu/Z)

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It's way too self serious. Agamemnon is a cartoon villain. The attempt to balance both sides largely falls flat. There's no overarching vision to the film so it feels cobbled together from about 5 different stories.

But, the action is largely good, Pete O'Toole is very good, and it's entertaining in spurts.

Reminds me of the mediocre epics from the 60s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (Jj43a)

88 Ewoks. That was quite the fall.

"Jar Jar made the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft!"

-Tim Bisley, 'Spaced'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (oVJmc)

89 I thought GodFather part 3 was pretty bad on balance, but the end was the best part (Al Pacino dies in a chair and falls over). That scene sort of resurrected the rest of the movie for me.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (LAe3v)

90 Because if you're trying to convince people to go to war by the force of your words, I can't imagine any compliment that would sound better. I didn't know if they invented that for the movie or not. It sounded like something someone actually said-Perhaps the real life person who is given the line in the movie

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (8+Ozj)

91 IMHO, the Pervywood people like to think they are super geniuses and super creative. The reality is they are not. They will fight reality to the death on that......and lose.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (3BFzK)

92 One of the most horrible franchises I've seen is the Mission Impossible franchise. But here's the thing; I'd still watch them even if the entire cast was replaced by gorillas. That being said, I've never given that franchise a dime of my money, but still.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (bJ0w+)

93
The Antoine Doinel movies. I remember the first two being very good. The second two were okay and the last one was just seemed cobbled together to wrap things up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (SiINZ)

94 80
What was that other mob movie Roy Scheider was in? It was good.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (1mtMy)

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There's always Sorcerer. That one is kinda great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (Jj43a)

95 How many Chuckys have there been, that devil doll movie franchise?

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (LQLeS)

96
Roy Scheider was one of the last real "leading men."

Today we have betas like clooney and affleck. And the one who wears "lifts" in his shoes all the time now, the manlet matt damon.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (1mtMy)

97 Probably already mentioned: Fast and Furious?
The tone has really changed between the first few and what they're churning out nowadays. Started out as a street-racing version of "Point Break" and now is more "Ocean's 11-12-13".

Also probably mentioned: The Matrix.
I do not recognize any of the sequels. They do not exist because they *should not* exist. Blech!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (W+vEI)

98 3 Only sequel that's worth a damn is Aliens.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 06:44 PM (8ADHC)

++++

The 2nd Batman, The Dark Knight, was the best of the series.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (pvjTE)

99 78 Personally, I prefer the first one the most but I can see why folks like Empire.

From the first movie, Carrie Fisher's laughable "your foul stench" just ruined the whole thing.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (LAe3v)

jah, that's the old serials dialog, just like most of Vader's lines are pretty forgettable.

But you have zingers like 'What an incredible smell you've discovered' and 'boring conversation anyway'.

The first one always, always sucks me in. The other two...eh. They're good but not as good for the most part.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

100 Mostly because the acting and dialogue was soooo bad, it took me out of the movie. Also, the Ewoks were so cheesy and obvious, I just couldn't stay involved.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (LAe3v)

Ewoks were pretty bad. They did the same thing to Mad Max and it was, well, sad. That said, the first time around (4,5,6) it was sort of okay. When the did the prequels I was checked out. Seeing The Force Awakens, was sort of just weird. It was the same thing. For the third time.

That said, the first two and a half of both Star Wars and Mad Max are pretty solid.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (qCKDU)

101 I'm never surprised that a terrible first film begets terrible sequels. What fascinates me is the series that begin with a good, maybe even a great film, and quickly descend into terribleness.

This is because what they usually do is take all the pieces of the original film that people liked and, either, copy them exactly or over-emphasize them. The sequel tends to be nothing but "The Greatest Hits" from the original, and most of the time this leads to dogshit movies.

Often you can hear the same exact tag-line from the original in the sequel ... maybe even four or five times. The same gag with the car, or the elevator. In the really "original" sequels, they will try to hide this blatant copying by transforming some superficial aspect of the gag to make it seem new. But it never is.

I would say that the perfect example of this "total copy" sort of sequel would be the "Final Destination" collection of 10 or 20 movies. They are so similar that you can't really tell one from the other. Even while you're watching it you have no idea which one you are watching. The only difference is the lead chick. And so, this series comes down to nothing but distinguishing which of the many copies of the same exact story have the hotter chick.

For the other sort of sequels - actual continuations of the story - they usually make up all sorts of ridiculous shit that had nothing to do with the original story. 98% of the time this sucks. But, the studios are lucky that the ticket-buying public isn't very picky and that they don't have all that much to choose from even if they were.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (8gDQu)

102 Blue Thunder.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (7JbXq)

103 The last few Death Wish movies fall into the "so bad, they're awesome" category.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (ANIFC)

104 Also probably mentioned: The Matrix.
I do not recognize any of the sequels. They do not exist because they *should not* exist. Blech!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (W+vEI)

+1

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (xJa6I)

105 Vegas Vaca
I could have taken $1 M, gone to vegas with several friends and made a much much funnier movie.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (BtQd4)

106 FUN FACT: the NRA was mostly about keeping democrat from stopping the black folk from being armed.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 06, 2018 07:04 PM (3BFzK)

107 92 One of the most horrible franchises I've seen is the Mission Impossible franchise. But here's the thing; I'd still watch them even if the entire cast was replaced by gorillas. That being said, I've never given that franchise a dime of my money, but still.
Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (bJ0w+)

I caught one of the sequels on amazon... Ghost Nation? Rogue Nation? The one with the sexy Irish redhead.

Mmmm. That was a good movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 07:04 PM (ycWCI)

108 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (1mtMy)

I would say Gary Oldman is. He always is different in any part he plays, which can't be said of all actors.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 07:04 PM (8+Ozj)

109
Heh.

Roy Scheider died at 75 in 2008. In Arkansas.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:04 PM (1mtMy)

110 94 80
What was that other mob movie Roy Scheider was in? It was good.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:00 PM (1mtMy)

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There's always Sorcerer. That one is kinda great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (Jj43a)

I like him in 'Night Game' but he was an arrogant, condescending Lefty prick in person. Made me not seek his work out. See also: Tim Robbins.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:05 PM (xJa6I)

111
The biggest single reason that sequels are artistically inferior to the original films is this:

The first film is generally made because someone has a story to tell, a story that's crying to get out. Sequels are generally made because someone is trying to get more money out of the same audience. That is, the first film is made for artistic reasons, and the sequels are made for financial reasons. The first film is made by artists, and the follow-ups are made by accountants...

Posted by: Lyford at January 06, 2018 07:05 PM (CcBsx)

112 RoboCop II

Whoreywood only accidentally stumbles upon a theme that resonates with the public. Stupid fucking idiots don't really understand why the hit was a hit.l

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:05 PM (7JbXq)

113
But what fell the furthest the fastest?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 06:49 PM (Jj43a)

"Halloween". The original's a classic, I can't even remember the rest of them.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (EzdLW)

114 Jar-Jar was the last straw for me in that series

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (aC6Sd)

115 12 Got a bone to pick with the reveiws of Darkest Hour, finally took just the other day to read Churchill's never happens subway ride and revelation was caused by a interracial couple and a Caribbean immigrant, who both magically appear in 1940 London.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

Seriously? So does every movie now have to have some sort of Diversity Quota? Did they pass an international law mandating this?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (8ADHC)

116 Not just franchises, REBOOTS SUCK THE HARDEST....and not in that good way you are all thinking of.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (3BFzK)

117 52 27. Bronson was a rock.

Yeah....went to work in the mines when he was 10. WWII interrupted that.

Tough old Polack.

A Pennsylvania Polack! The Pride of Ehrenfeld! His hometown is between No and Where.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (MQeu/)

118 I would say Gary Oldman is. He always is different in any part he plays, which can't be said of all actors.

There aren't many on his level. Sean Connery and Tommy Lee Jones are two of my favorites.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (LAe3v)

119 113
Hellraiser series. A lot of them are quite good as free standing movies.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (fA1SL)

120 Seriously? So does every movie now have to have some sort of Diversity Quota? Did they pass an international law mandating this?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (8ADHC)

Ummmmmmm...Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (EoRCO)

121 Just watched Alien 3 for the first time last night.

Aliens is the preferred movie in our house, over Alien.

Alien 3 was a horribly disappointing 2 hour waste of time, not one memorable line, terrible story, and so many F bombs it was like they were getting paid to say each one. Awful.

Posted by: squeakywheel at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (CinLf)

122 Got a bone to pick with the reveiws of Darkest Hour, finally took just the other day to read Churchill's never happens subway ride and revelation was caused by a interracial couple and a Caribbean immigrant, who both magically appear in 1940 London.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

Wait..what? They really put that in the movie? Geez, why not a Muslim tranny?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (SiINZ)

123 The first was great. Magnum Force was good. Sudden Impact was kind of a down hill. But I enjoyed Dead Pool.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 06:50 PM (ycWCI)

--The Enforcer was very prescient. Think of BLM and SJW today when watching it.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (hFWuh)

124 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle was fun. It's still a jungle game figure out the rules get thru to get home movie. Now with video-game respawns, NPCs, etc.

What always surprises me is that Dwayne Johnson can act. He does Dwayne playing a geek playing The Rock playing ?StrongStone? and it's great.

Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (FhXTo)

125 I watched Beast Master the other day on Amazon. It was like watching Conan the Barbarian (which I love for no good reason) but with ferrets. Not quite as good, but alcohol made it better.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (qCKDU)

126 There aren't many on his level. Sean Connery and Tommy Lee Jones are two of my favorites.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:06 PM (LAe3v)

Personally, I can't stand Tommy Lee Jones, but The Hunted (with Benecio Del Toro and Connie Neilsen) is one of my favorite movies. Great fighting scenes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (8gDQu)

127 Personally, I'm a fan of the Jim Varney oeuvre. He's one for the ages. Like Buckwheat.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (LAe3v)

128 In TV, after the successful first season, the screenwriters want to be compensated appropriately.

Nope. The Producers want that sweet sweet network money. The good screenwriters leave and the shit begins.

Same thing with sequels.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (7JbXq)

129 How many Chuckys have there been, that devil doll movie franchise?

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (LQLeS)

About as many as the Leprechaun one.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (QLvwG)

130 As for Rocky movies, I really liked Creed.

Although I truly enjoy it, the original Rocky is incredibly sad to me. I don't know why.

Posted by: squeakywheel at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (CinLf)

131 I did really like the first 2 Indiana Jones movies. The other 2 are cheesy.

Posted by: jsg at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (DhcsO)

132 If you have Amazon Prime then check out "The People vs. George Lucas", a very funny documentary on the love/hate relationship the fans have with George Lucas.

Here are the Red Letter Media guys with the man who made the doc, Alexandre Philippe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU30obwiqvA

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (qJtVm)

133 106 FUN FACT: the NRA was mostly about keeping democrat from stopping the black folk from being armed.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 06, 2018 07:04 PM (3BFzK)
Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. NRA was white people suing other white people to let black people have guns.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (BtQd4)

134 87 66 Not sure what you mean by that. I enjoyed it more than you, but your criticism is vague, so I don't know why you didn't care much for it.

BTW, the link for this one is no good, It is a dupe of the Jason Bourne one
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 06:58 PM (FUu/Z)

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It's way too self serious. Agamemnon is a cartoon villain. The attempt to balance both sides largely falls flat. There's no overarching vision to the film so it feels cobbled together from about 5 different stories.

But, the action is largely good, Pete O'Toole is very good, and it's entertaining in spurts.

Reminds me of the mediocre epics from the 60s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (Jj43a)

I found Troy good with the sound off. Don't ask me why but with subtitles, it worked when with dialog, it didn't.

Brad Pitt's good looks were a bit distracting, I kept waiting for the gay scenes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (xJa6I)

135
The Seven-Ups! 1973.

I love the old 70's cop flicks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM (1mtMy)

136 Oh, it also proved my theory that the only way to deal with a witch is to throw her into a fire of her own creation.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM (qCKDU)

137 There's always Sorcerer. That one is kinda great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (Jj43a)

Do you think it's better than the original 'Wages of Fear'?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM (8ADHC)

138 Saw the Kingsman sequel on NYE (too cold to go out). Started out and I'm thinking, "this isn't so bad" and then it kept getting worse. A shame, since the first one was entertaining.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM (W+vEI)

139 125 I watched Beast Master the other day on Amazon. It was like watching Conan the Barbarian (which I love for no good reason) but with ferrets. Not quite as good, but alcohol made it better.
Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 07:08 PM (qCKDU)

Plus Tanya Roberts is good. It is a fun movie. Rip Torn chewing scenery.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM (ycWCI)

140
The Presidio vs Russia House vs No Way Out?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:10 PM (1mtMy)

141 122 Got a bone to pick with the reveiws of Darkest Hour, finally took just the other day to read Churchill's never happens subway ride and revelation was caused by a interracial couple and a Caribbean immigrant, who both magically appear in 1940 London.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

Wait..what? They really put that in the movie? Geez, why not a Muslim tranny?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (SiINZ)

I thought they did have Montgomery in it...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:10 PM (xJa6I)

142 I lost a bet and have to watch all 8 of the Harry Potter movies. It took me 3 days to get past the 1st one and it was boring. Do they get better?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:10 PM (g4lFK)

143 Aliens was good, but I will always like Alien much more. It was a true horror flick, whereas Aliens was more of an action adventure movie. Much different feel. Have not seen the rest of them.

I don't think I've seen Death Wish in its entirety, and what I did see was on TV. I think I need to watch it for reals.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (bNbo2)

144 The Enforcer was very prescient. Think of BLM and SJW today when watching it.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (hFWuh)

"What in the hell do you think this is, some kind of encounter group?" As I mentioned up thread the whole scene with Mrs. Grey was excellent

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (SiINZ)

145 39
I thought Hateful Eight was a good, mean, kickass western. I wish there were more good Westerns.

It had, like all Tarantino movies, some great performances and some great scenes. But on the whole, it was a vile film, even by QT standards, and I felt dirty having watched it. I felt like there were absolutely no redeeming characters or characteristics - pure narcissistic nihilism...

Posted by: Lyford at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (CcBsx)

146 I am waiting for someone to say the diversity part I read didn't happen.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (aC6Sd)

147 Indiana Jones?

2nd was shit. 4th was shit.

3rd was OK.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (7JbXq)

148 Mr. Majestyk.

Brian Denehey gives a vaulting performance as the Ford.

Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (FhXTo)

149 89 I thought GodFather part 3 was pretty bad on balance, but the end was the best part (Al Pacino dies in a chair and falls over). That scene sort of resurrected the rest of the movie for me.
Posted by: pep

Exactly. Corellone lived long enough to die old and alone, to reflect on all the horror he caused. GIII was mediocre but that final scene was excellent.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (MQeu/)

150 137 There's always Sorcerer. That one is kinda great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (Jj43a)

Do you think it's better than the original 'Wages of Fear'?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM (8ADHC)

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Love them both, but yeah, Wages of Fear is better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (Jj43a)

151 Nolan's Batman series - I liked the 2nd one more than the 1st....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (W+vEI)

152 142
I lost a bet and have to watch all 8 of the Harry Potter movies. It took
me 3 days to get past the 1st one and it was boring. Do they get
better?

Posted by: Monk

Sorry to have to tell you this, but the series peaked with the first one.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (LAe3v)

153 Plus Tanya Roberts is good. It is a fun movie. Rip Torn chewing scenery.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM

Oh he was great. Big actors playing the evil priest/bad guy are hallmarks of those movies. James Earl Jones playing Thulsa Doom (he wasn't even a canonical Conan villian) was great.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (qCKDU)

154 Also probably mentioned: The Matrix.
I do not recognize any of the sequels. They do not exist because they *should not* exist. Blech!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (W+vEI

--Only redeeming thing about Reloaded was Monica Bellucci in that translucent vinyl dress.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (hFWuh)

155
Movies that are remakes of old TV shows are pretty bad. I'm thinking Bewitched, The Flintsones, Beverly Hillbillies, Dark Shadows, Dennis the Menace, Leave it to Beaver, etc. They were churning out such movies in the nineties for the most part, odd trend.
Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (LQLeS)

Yeah those stunk except "Dark Shadows". I thought the big screen version was a pretty damn clever satire of both "Twilight" and "True Blood."

Johnny Depp's Barnabas as the fish out of water, because he's formal and dignified and honorable while the moderns around him are the rude and dissolute. I also love the scene where he takes on the campfire hippies. And the vampire "love" scene where they destroy the house (again, a shot at Twilight's absurdness).

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (EzdLW)

156 "Haunted House in Space."

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (7JbXq)

157 I lost a bet and have to watch all 8 of the Harry Potter movies. It took me 3 days to get past the 1st one and it was boring. Do they get better?

Yes, actually.

The later ones are better paced because Rowling relented and stopped making them film them exactly as she wrote them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

158 I thought Hateful Eight was a good, mean, kickass western. I wish there were more good Westerns.

I turned it off after the first 15 minutes. It was awful and just seemed to be getting worse and worse.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (8gDQu)

159 145 39
I thought Hateful Eight was a good, mean, kickass western. I wish there were more good Westerns.

It had, like all Tarantino movies, some great performances and some great scenes. But on the whole, it was a vile film, even by QT standards, and I felt dirty having watched it. I felt like there were absolutely no redeeming characters or characteristics - pure narcissistic nihilism...
Posted by: Lyford at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (CcBsx)

Jah, I was in until they killed off Kurt Russell's character. And then it was all downhill for me.

Great scenes...sorta hate the movie as a whole.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (xJa6I)

160 152 142
I lost a bet and have to watch all 8 of the Harry Potter movies. It took
me 3 days to get past the 1st one and it was boring. Do they get
better?

Posted by: Monk

Sorry to have to tell you this, but the series peaked with the first one.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (LAe3v)

Noooooooooooooo!

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (g4lFK)

161 142 I lost a bet and have to watch all 8 of the Harry Potter movies. It took me 3 days to get past the 1st one and it was boring. Do they get better?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:10 PM (g4lFK)

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I find the first two surprisingly mediocre, but the third is a shot of life. Dynamic filmmaking, better acting, and Gary Oldman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:12 PM (Jj43a)

162 . Do they get better?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:10 PM (g4lFK)

Actually they do. They are not horrible. My family and I have watched the series several times. Just gotta go in knowing that they are not Bridge on the River Kwai.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:13 PM (bNbo2)

163 122 Got a bone to pick with the reveiws of Darkest Hour, finally took just the other day to read Churchill's never happens subway ride and revelation was caused by a interracial couple and a Caribbean immigrant, who both magically appear in 1940 London.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

Wait..what? They really put that in the movie? Geez, why not a Muslim tranny?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:07 PM (SiINZ)

That's for the sequel.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:14 PM (ANIFC)

164 148 Mr. Majestyk.

Brian Denehey gives a vaulting performance as the Ford.
Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:11 PM (FhXTo)

Amy Schumer was also good in it as The Watermelon.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:14 PM (8ADHC)

165 127. Dr Otto & the Riddle of the Gloom Beam. A classic.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:14 PM (fA1SL)

166 If you hated the Harry Potter story, there is nothing I can say.

But it is like Babylon 5 in that it is an epic story. Each book is but a chapter in the epic story.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:14 PM (7JbXq)

167 Get a good book series that spans 3-4 films. Hire a good script writer-adaptor. No guarantee but at least there is a story arc.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 06, 2018 07:14 PM (kIxPI)

168 157
I lost a bet and have to watch all 8 of the Harry Potter movies. It
took me 3 days to get past the 1st one and it was boring. Do they get
better?

Sorry to have to tell you this, but the series peaked with the first one.-pep

Yes, actually.
The later ones are better paced because Rowling relented and stopped making them film them exactly as she wrote them.
-Mr. Peebles

Pistols at dawn, sir.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (LAe3v)

169 Godfather 3.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (DNH+H)

170 I did like the two-fer of Olympus Has Fallen and London Has Fallen.

Then there's Mad Max to The Road Warrior to Thunderdome. I thought Road Warrior was better that Mad Max but the third one, Thunderdome left me confused.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (QLvwG)

171 Back to the Future. Original was clever, funny, and entertaining. Second was a clever idea, but less funny (although ironically funny now that we've passed 2015.) Third was less clever but very funny and entertaining. That's a win for a series, as far as my family is concerned.

Posted by: NadineCharmichael at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (ELOlU)

172 I'm in the minority who gives Godfather II the edge over I.

Lightning didn't strike thrice. Coppolo had a short fuse on the money, couldn't get a deal with Duvall -- who rejected a low ball offer saying he wanted Pacino money -- and rushed script without Duvall. Could have played so much better.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (pV/54)

173 That's for the sequel.
Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:14 PM (ANIFC)

Is that when they cover the second time he become Prime Minister?. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 06, 2018 07:16 PM (8+Ozj)

174 172 I'm in the minority who gives Godfather II the edge over I.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (pV/54)

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I thought that was the majority opinion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:16 PM (Jj43a)

175 Too bad Stanley Kubrick never made a sequel to "Dr. Strangelove". In the bomb shelter, with women whose sexual characteristics are of a highly stimulating nature.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

176 It had, like all Tarantino movies, some great performances and some
great scenes. But on the whole, it was a vile film, even by QT
standards, and I felt dirty having watched it. I felt like there were
absolutely no redeeming characters or characteristics - pure
narcissistic nihilism...

Maybe that's why I like it. Seems like stuff vile, nasty, narcissistic assholes would do.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:16 PM (nisXv)

177 It's way too self serious. Agamemnon is a cartoon villain. The attempt to balance both sides largely falls flat. There's no overarching vision to the film so it feels cobbled together from about 5 different stories.

But, the action is largely good, Pete O'Toole is very good, and it's entertaining in spurts.

Reminds me of the mediocre epics from the 60s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:01 PM (Jj43a)

++++

Well, of course The Iliad was a rather complex source material, but I think they did an acceptable job of pruning the 10 year tale down to a movie.

I agree about Agamemnon. He was a weakly drawn antagonist. It never felt like the movie was really giving us his side, instead just setting him up in opposition to Achilles.

But, as you say, the action was well done. So well that I would give them an extra point for it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (FUu/Z)

178 I was thinking of the Transporter series - but it occurs to me that almost all Jason Statham starring movies are a version of the same movie: criminal with a code of honor gets screwed over by associate/employer who then goes on a kick-a$$ revenge spree...Yep, it works for him so he's gonna keep doing it.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (W+vEI)

179 Glad to hear Harry Potter improves. I have until the end of the month to finish and file a report or I have to watch Downton Abbey.

I cringe with anger when I see a young Emma Watson because of the revelations of Weinstein. She seems pretty screwed up now. I feel bad for her.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK)

180 And the story behind Highlander II is an epic in itself.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (oVJmc)

181
There's always Sorcerer. That one is kinda great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:02 PM (Jj43a)

Is that the one with twin playmates and a goat-man?

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (EzdLW)

182 Well, of course The Iliad was a rather complex source material, but I think they did an acceptable job of pruning the 10 year tale down to a movie.

I agree about Agamemnon. He was a weakly drawn antagonist. It never felt like the movie was really giving us his side, instead just setting him up in opposition to Achilles.

But, as you say, the action was well done. So well that I would give them an extra point for it.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (FUu/Z)

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I don't hold this against the movie, but I find it hilarious that they boil the entire ten year conflict down to about a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (Jj43a)

183 It's way too self serious. Agamemnon is a cartoon villain.

You have to admit, calling someone "you sack of wine" is a pretty good insult.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (LAe3v)

184 Then there's Mad Max to The Road Warrior to Thunderdome. I thought Road Warrior was better that Mad Max but the third one, Thunderdome left me confused.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (QLvwG)

I agree with that assessment, but I love the strange feel of Mad Max. The post-apocalypse feel is far more subtle than in the Road Warrior, and I found that to be very effective.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (bNbo2)

185 "I thought that was the majority opinion."

Not in the critic's polls, nor the likes of IMDB. II is close, but I gets picked ahead.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (pV/54)

186 Highlander 2 was the worst.... and then I saw Alien 3.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (/jJd8)

187 183 It's way too self serious. Agamemnon is a cartoon villain.

You have to admit, calling someone "you sack of wine" is a pretty good insult.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (LAe3v)

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It is.

Brian Cox is great chewing the scenery, but the part is still terrible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:19 PM (Jj43a)

188 153 Plus Tanya Roberts is good. It is a fun movie. Rip Torn chewing scenery.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 07:09 PM

Oh he was great. Big actors playing the evil priest/bad guy are hallmarks of those movies. James Earl Jones playing Thulsa Doom (he wasn't even a canonical Conan villian) was great.
Posted by: Flyguy

The best thing about Thulsa Doom (and James Earl Jones) was he never really said much. His "Presence" was all it too to scare the shit out of you.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:19 PM (MQeu/)

189 The most surprising movie to make a sequel from was Taken. The first movie was awesome, but it wasn't sequel material. It was a single story that was over at the end. That said, I think the sequel made tons of money. Maybe even the third one did ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:20 PM (8gDQu)

190 You're all missing the obvious choice for worst sequels. The honor, of course, goes to the Billy Jack series. True, the first one was pretty bad, but still, they managed to keep digging.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:20 PM (LAe3v)

191 I for one like the Potter series, might be part 5 with Dumbledore's Army that uses newspapers to move the movie along. There are lots of little magic tricks going to watch throughout.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:20 PM (aC6Sd)

192
Ted Cassidy vs Richard Kiel?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:21 PM (1mtMy)

193 I liked Fury with Brad Pitt too. Have any mechanized people commented on it's accuracy in WW2?

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:21 PM (nisXv)

194
Alien 3 was a horribly disappointing 2 hour waste of time, not one memorable line,

Ahem,

Dillon: God will take care of you now, sister!

Before wrestling a monster into molten lead.

Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:21 PM (FhXTo)

195 I was thinking of the Transporter series - but it occurs to me that almost all Jason Statham starring movies are a version of the same movie: criminal with a code of honor gets screwed over by associate/employer who then goes on a kick-a$$ revenge spree...Yep, it works for him so he's gonna keep doing it.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (W+vEI)

He played a different character in Snatch - was it Snatch or the Two Smoking Barrels movie?

Factoid, Statham was an Olympic diver for Great Britain.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:21 PM (8gDQu)

196 193
I liked Fury with Brad Pitt too.

Posted by: dartist

True, but not a sequel.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:21 PM (LAe3v)

197 Thinking back about it, the speeders thru the trees scene was when the shark jumping started. I was having a hard time believing it. Then Leia met the Ewok and I was like, wtf is this Muppet shit?

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 07:22 PM (UdKB7)

198
Fun Fact: Ted Cassidy was the narrator for tv show The Incredible Hulk AND the voice/grunter of the Hulk.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:22 PM (1mtMy)

199

Ewoks gang banged Jar Jar Binks. Made him their bitch. Turned him out at twink conventions.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 07:22 PM (T/KY7)

200 Factoid, Statham was an Olympic diver for Great Britain.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Huh, I did not know that. He seems straight.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:22 PM (LAe3v)

201 I totally forgot about the Billy Jack movies, which may not have been a bad thing

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (aC6Sd)

202 >>I cringe with anger when I see a young Emma Watson because of the
revelations of Weinstein. She seems pretty screwed up now. I feel bad
for her.

I'm inclined to think Brown university had something to do with it, too. She had parents who kept her grounded - they put all of her earnings in the bank, and when old enough, had her take courses on money management. She had no access to, or knowledge of, her $$ as a child (but they weren't stealing it as can happen in Hollywood). No partying, no entourage, no acting out - all good throughout childhood. Then she comes to US for college....and sometime after becomes a strident 3rd wave feminist. Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (W+vEI)

203 Huh, I did not know that. He seems straight.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:22 PM (LAe3v)

LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (8gDQu)

204 Also probably mentioned: The Matrix.
I do not recognize any of the sequels. They do not exist because they *should not* exist. Blech!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:03 PM (W+vEI)

There is no sequel.

Posted by: Gem at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (XoAz8)

205
Brian Cox is great chewing the scenery, but the part is still terrible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:19 PM (Jj43a)

Brian Cox is one of those actor's who is good in any role they give him. He was the first Hannibal Lecter.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (EzdLW)

206 'I totally forgot about the Billy Jack movies, which may not have been a bad thing'

How could you of all people forget Skip?

Posted by: One Tin Soldier at January 06, 2018 07:24 PM (UdKB7)

207 You're all missing the obvious choice for worst sequels. The honor, of course, goes to the Billy Jack series. True, the first one was pretty bad, but still, they managed to keep digging.
Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:20 PM (LAe3v)

Oh Lord Yes! From "Born Losers" to "Billy Jerk Goes to Washington" a laugh riot.

And that hat.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 07:24 PM (EoRCO)

208 I agree with that assessment, but I love the strange
feel of Mad Max. The post-apocalypse feel is far more subtle than in
the Road Warrior, and I found that to be very effective.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (bNbo2)

In Mad Max, the Aussies were still trying to hold on to civilization (as in On The Beach) though they were infringed upon at the margins, losing ground every day. By Road Warrior, all civilization is gone and it is a straight up fight for survival. Thunderdome started out okay enough but the ending was surreal, sorta like the finish of 2001.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (QLvwG)

209 166 If you hated the Harry Potter story, there is nothing I can say.

But it is like Babylon 5 in that it is an epic story. Each book is but a chapter in the epic story.

Posted by: JAS

Well, if HP movies had Vorlons, Centauri, Minbari, Narn, and Chekov in an underrated role as a 'bad' guy, then maybe I'd watch it then.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (MQeu/)

210 Fury gets a lot of praise for accuracy

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

211 Brian Cox is one of those actor's who is good in any role they give him. He was the first Hannibal Lecter.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (EzdLW)

He was the real Lecter. Anthony Hopkins played a cartoon Lecter.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (8gDQu)

212 Wages of Fear

I didn't know it was a redo. With sufficient party favors you can hallucinate right along with Roy towards the end of the drive.

Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (FhXTo)

213 "I don't know who convinced David Fincher to make trashy nonsense, but he's damn good at it." [Personal Collection]

LOL... very nice summary.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (qGuLD)

214 180 And the story behind Highlander II is an epic in itself.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (oVJmc)

There was no Highlander 2. Or 3.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (xJa6I)

215 True, but not a sequel.

Oops, sorry.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:25 PM (nisXv)

216 Too bad Stanley Kubrick never made a sequel to "Dr. Strangelove". In the bomb shelter, with women whose sexual characteristics are of a highly stimulating nature.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

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Not to derail the thread... rambling here. But an interesting variation on this theme would be movies that it would just be wrong to make a sequel of, or remake. Dr. Strangelove, Citizen Kane, Wizard of Oz (although there was a weird sequel Return to Oz), 8 1/2, Animal House, etc.

I believe Rocky Horror has a sequel - never bothered to see it. Supposedly it was awful.

Schlock horror:
* Reanimator 2 was just more of the same as Reanimator, but it was lots of fun.

* Evil Dead 2 was like a remake of Evil Dead, but it was original and outstanding in its own way. Very similar to the Terminator/Terminator 2 sequel. If only most directors put as much effort into their projects as Cameron and Rami.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (O+Wek)

217 Seriously ... all you people blathering on and on about this movie and that movie just bores the shit out of me.

You can't have a serious discussion of any of them without mentioning Brian Dennehy's masterful portrayal of "The Knon Universe" in Every. Damn. Film. Known. To. Man.

Pikers.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (kA3UL)

218 Along with others mentioned, some disappointing and notably bad sequels:

. The Exorcist II
. The Boondock Saints II
. Anchorman 2

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (BiLU+)

219 >>He played a different character in Snatch - was it Snatch or the Two Smoking Barrels movie?

Yes, but that's because Guy Richie.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (W+vEI)

220 Then there's Mad Max to The Road Warrior to Thunderdome. I thought Road Warrior was better that Mad Max but the third one, Thunderdome left me confused.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:15 PM (QLvwG)

I agree with that assessment, but I love the strange feel of Mad Max. The post-apocalypse feel is far more subtle than in the Road Warrior, and I found that to be very effective.
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (bNbo2)

Which one was first? The first was my favorite but now I forget if it was The Road Warrior or Mad Max.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (nBr1j)

221 I agree with James Lileks, who once wrote a piece describing Tarantino's films as violence porn. He lamented that a perfectly good pop song, "Stuck in the Middle with You" was ruined by its use in a torture scene.

Tarantino is a sicko. I watched a couple of his early movies, but I've never had a desire to watch any more.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (sdi6R)

222 Lizzy, could she have been Weinsteined and then caught the Mind Virus?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (g4lFK)

223

The seventh MASH book, 'MASH goes to you neighbors garage sale' thankfully never made it to the screen...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (T/KY7)

224 Hadn't seen it in quite a few years

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (aC6Sd)

225 201 I totally forgot about the Billy Jack movies, which may not have been a bad thing

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (aC6Sd)

Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays. Selling cars somewhere, maybe?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:27 PM (8ADHC)

226 Tarantino is a sicko. I watched a couple of his early movies, but I've never had a desire to watch any more.

Posted by: rickl

Ditto.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:27 PM (LAe3v)

227 When it comes to bad sequels, nothing beats the Police Academy series.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at January 06, 2018 07:27 PM (5fSr7)

228 Not to derail the thread... rambling here. But an interesting variation on this theme would be movies that it would just be wrong to make a sequel of, or remake. Dr. Strangelove, Citizen Kane, Wizard of Oz (although there was a weird sequel Return to Oz), 8 1/2, Animal House, etc.

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The Wizard of Oz was one of a very long series of books, so there is plenty of material for sequels

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:27 PM (ANIFC)

229 I watched Godfather 3 this week for the first time (and after watching 1 & 2 the days before). I can't lie...it had its moments, but most of all it struck me as an extremely poor imitation of the first one.

Posted by: Dwight at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (iAl7a)

230 "The Knon Universe"

Is that the one where the aliens steal Spock's brain again?

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (UdKB7)

231
Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays. Selling cars somewhere, maybe?

I think he's dead. Possibly of shame.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (LAe3v)

232 220. Mad Max was first. Yeah....you could see everything was falling apart. Road Warrior was the aftermath.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (fA1SL)

233 lmao! Chiefs are blowing it. Again.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (CNHr1)

234 Which one was first? The first was my favorite but now I forget if it was The Road Warrior or Mad Max.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (nBr1j)

Mad Max was first.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (bNbo2)

235 What, *no one* has mentioned Highlander and Highlander 2?

That *has* to be the worst drop off with a sequel ever.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (2kiKp)

236 Just for the record, I'm old enough to remember when Death Wish came out, and the politics and news of the day. Saw it in the theater, really enjoyed it. Don't recall if I ever saw the sequel. If I did, it's obvious how much of an impression it made on me!

Posted by: yyymale at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (6vCe0)

237 Is that the one where the aliens steal Spock's brain again?

Nope, prostate.

The scene where McCoy sews it back in is a doozy...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (T/KY7)

238 231

Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays. Selling cars somewhere, maybe?

I think he's dead. Possibly of shame.

Yup, 2013.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (LAe3v)

239 The wife got me a 200-movie pack of 'Cult Classics'. I'm about 6 movies into the stack now and I'm surprised how...not horrible they are.

I mean, they're mostly bad but almost all of them have some redeeming quality in the cast, script or something.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (xJa6I)

240 I think he's dead. Possibly of shame.

Yeah, I think he died several years ago.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (CNHr1)

241 "Deathstalker 2" is a sequel that's imho is better than the first in the series. It knows it's a ridiculous story, and just runs with it. I watched it with the DVD commentary from the director and a couple of stars, and they all seemed to have had a blast making it.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (EzdLW)

242 >.Lizzy, could she have been Weinsteined and then caught the Mind Virus?

Just as likely.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (W+vEI)

243 Tarantino is a sicko. I watched a couple of his early movies, but I've never had a desire to watch any more.

I like the shit out of Inglorious Basterds.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (FusDs)

244 190 You're all missing the obvious choice for worst sequels. The honor, of course, goes to the Billy Jack series. True, the first one was pretty bad, but still, they managed to keep digging.
Posted by: pep

What that series needed were the heroes of Easy Rider. I, of course, am referring too the 2 rednecks and there trusty pickup!! Of course then the Billy Jack series would have been over after the first one. Feature, not a bug, I guess.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (MQeu/)

245 I thought Predator II was a really good movie. Did not care for The Godfather or the sequels. Same with The Planet of the Apes or Beneath the Conquest of the Return of the Planet of the Apes. It got to be like the Police Academy series.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (2X7pN)

246 Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays. Selling cars somewhere, maybe?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:27 PM (8ADHC)

Dead....died broke and crazy in a run down motel trying to make ANOTHER movie.

No shit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (EoRCO)

247 235 What, *no one* has mentioned Highlander and Highlander 2?

That *has* to be the worst drop off with a sequel ever.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (2kiKp)

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While the second one is terrible, the first isn't very good either.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (Jj43a)

248 Red is one of my all-time favorite movies. Red 2 was definitely not in the same league, but not bad all the same.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (LAe3v)

249 The Resident Evil series lost my interest as well.

28 Days to 28 Weeks held up okay. Will there ever be a 28 Months?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (QLvwG)

250 The Exorcist II
. The Boondock Saints II
. Anchorman 2

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (BiLU+)

Exorcist II is just rancid drek. God knows how drunk Burton must have been to have done that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (SiINZ)

251 I like the shit out of Inglorious Basterds.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (FusDs)

My favorite.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:31 PM (bNbo2)

252 Had no idea Thomas Robert Laughlin is mort, 12/12/13

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:31 PM (aC6Sd)

253 Mad Max I got only a small release in the US when it came out -- IIRC they dubbed the Aussie voices.

So when Mad Max II came out, they called it Road Warrior for the US market.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:31 PM (pV/54)

254 Prostate, prostate - what is prostate? Is it Controller?

Posted by: Queen of the givers of pain and delight at January 06, 2018 07:31 PM (EzdLW)

255 God knows how drunk Burton must have been to have done that.

'Tuesday'

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 07:31 PM (T/KY7)

256 >>Tarantino is a sicko. I watched a couple of his early movies, but I've never had a desire to watch any more.

Yeah - so *not* my cup of tea. Funniest Tarantino I've seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSV35A1cQDM

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:32 PM (W+vEI)

257
Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays

He should be coaching the New York Giants.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:32 PM (1mtMy)

258 251 I like the shit out of Inglorious Basterds.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (FusDs)

My favorite.
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:31 PM (bNbo2)

=======

I think it contains his two best scenes, but it builds to nothing more than revenge porn, which is disappointing. Still, I really like it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:32 PM (Jj43a)

259 Brian Cox is one of those actor's who is good in any role they give him. He was the first Hannibal Lecter.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (EzdLW)

=============

Agreed. Although a small role, whenever I see him I yell "It's Uncle Argyle from Braveheart!"

Same with when I see the actor Angus Macfadyen, I yell "It's Robert the Bruce!"

Also with the actor David O'Hara, I yell "It's Crazy Stephen the Irishman from Braveheart!"

I'm beginning to sense a pattern here ... can you guess my favorite movie?

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:32 PM (BiLU+)

260 Lethal Weapon 2 was aweful.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (g4lFK)

261 Great googly moogly. The Chefs are finished.

Again.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (bNbo2)

262 195 I was thinking of the Transporter series - but it occurs to me that almost all Jason Statham starring movies are a version of the same movie: criminal with a code of honor gets screwed over by associate/employer who then goes on a kick-a$$ revenge spree...Yep, it works for him so he's gonna keep doing it.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (W+vEI)

He played a different character in Snatch - was it Snatch or the Two Smoking Barrels movie?

Factoid, Statham was an Olympic diver for Great Britain.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

See "The Bank Job". I think its Statham's best movie. He just plays an ordinary thief in it. No fight scenes. Its really good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (MQeu/)

263 Brian Cox has to be the hardest working man in show business. Even more than Michael Caine, he's in everything.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (pV/54)

264 The Omen series. Bah

The Amityville series. Bah

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (QLvwG)

265
While the second one is terrible, the first isn't very good either.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (Jj43a)

Heretic

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (xJa6I)

266
Boggy Creek 2

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (IqV8l)

267 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

268 "The Knon Universe"

Is that the one where the aliens steal Spock's brain again?
Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (UdKB7)

Nothing I like better than making a really smart-assed post ... and then seeing I made a typo to ruin the whole damn thing.

Again.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (FusDs)

269 >>Red is one of my all-time favorite movies. Red 2 was definitely not in the same league, but not bad all the same.

Word.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (W+vEI)

270 re: I liked Fury with Brad Pitt too. Have any mechanized people commented on it's accuracy in WW2?

My husband says tank units typically didn't mix different types of Shermans, such as an early M4, M4A1 76MM, and an M4A3 E8 76MM as it would present spare parts problems.

But whatevs. I thought crazy Shia LaBeouf in it, and I thought his performance was great.

Posted by: squeakywheel at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (CinLf)

271 Wife is demanding dinner now.

Ah well, was having fun but see folks later.

Thanks TJM.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards now with TLJ review linkage at January 06, 2018 07:34 PM (xJa6I)

272 American Graffiti II was a horrible film.

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:34 PM (2X7pN)

273 Just for the record, I'm old enough to remember when Death Wish came out, and the politics and news of the day. Saw it in the theater, really enjoyed it.
Posted by: yyymale at January 06, 2018 07:29 PM (6vCe0)

You really need to watch Death Wish in its original setting for the full impact, i.e. in run-down, grimy, depressing, crime-ridden pre-Giuliani New York City. It's the 1970s, and it makes sense in that decade.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:34 PM (8ADHC)

274

The XXX parody of Inglorious Basterds with Tara White is quite... acceptable...

So I'm told. By my neighbor the pervert. That I don't talk to.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 07:34 PM (T/KY7)

275 First Blood 2 Rambo held up well.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:34 PM (g4lFK)

276 I was thinking of the Transporter series - but
it occurs to me that almost all Jason Statham starring movies are a
version of the same movie: criminal with a code of honor gets screwed
over by associate/employer who then goes on a kick-a$$ revenge
spree...Yep, it works for him so he's gonna keep doing it.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:17 PM (W+vEI)

He played a different character in Snatch - was it Snatch or the Two Smoking Barrels movie?

Factoid, Statham was an Olympic diver for Great Britain.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

See "The Bank Job". I think its Statham's best movie. He just plays an ordinary thief in it. No fight scenes. Its really good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (MQeu/)

I liked him in Spy. And also all the Expendables.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (QLvwG)

277 I like the shit out of Inglorious Basterds.

Another one I loved. Based on a true story? Amazon has a "The Real Inglorious Bastards" story.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (nisXv)

278 Exorcist II is just rancid drek. God knows how drunk Burton must have been to have done that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (SiINZ)

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LOL. Must have needed the money ... I think my favorite film with him was "The Night of the Iguana."

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (BiLU+)

279 Brian Cox has to be the hardest working man in show business. Even more than Michael Caine, he's in everything.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (pV/54)

Even Super Troopers. And he was excellent. Love that old bastage. His voice is hypnotic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (bNbo2)

280 Conan the Civilized?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (nBr1j)

281 267 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

There was The Thin Man series, Charlie Chan series, Sherlock Holmes, etc...

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

282 I like the shit out of Inglorious Basterds.

Thank the German guy.

He also makes 'Django' watchable (just), but once his character dies, there's nothing more to watch.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (oVJmc)

283 How many Tremors sequels did they make? Why?

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (2X7pN)

284
See "The Bank Job". I think its Statham's best movie. He just plays an ordinary thief in it. No fight scenes. Its really good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (MQeu/)

Excellent movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (8gDQu)

285 Gilligan's Island: the movie. Who's with me?

Posted by: PhilDirt at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (gbBZE)

286

My husband says tank units typically didn't mix different types of Shermans, such as an early M4, M4A1 76MM, and an M4A3 E8 76MM as it would present spare parts problems.

But whatevs. I thought crazy Shia LaBeouf in it, and I thought his performance was great.
Posted by: squeakywheel at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (CinLf)

Shia yanked out his own tooth to get into character.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:36 PM (g4lFK)

287 267 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

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A thin man would like a word for a few dollars more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:36 PM (Jj43a)

288 While the second one is terrible, the first isn't very good either.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (Jj43a)

It's a lot like Death Wish in that there is really no room in the narrative for a sequel. Which is probably why they went with the odd "they're aliens!" sci-fi angle and "reset" his immortality.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at January 06, 2018 07:36 PM (2kiKp)

289 Exorcist III is underrated, probably because II was so bad.

George C. Scott and Brad Dourif. Hell (heh - no pun intended), Dourif's performance in Exorcist III is so good he should've got a supporting actor Oscar nomination for it.

https://youtu.be/sYKctJdbpG4?t=33

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:36 PM (EzdLW)

290 Why has nobody mentioned the An Inconvenient Truth franchise? Al Gore should be horsewhipped in public for those two travesties.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2018 07:36 PM (bJ0w+)

291 >>>>but the third one Clint plays a distinctly different character from the first two,<<<<<<

GBU is a prequel. At the end of it Clint is wearing the outfit he rides into town with in Fist Full of Dollars.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 06, 2018 07:36 PM (3DZIZ)

292
Boggy Creek 2

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (IqV8l)

I saw the little creature

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (SiINZ)

293 I think it contains his two best scenes, but it builds to nothing more than revenge porn, which is disappointing. Still, I really like it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:32 PM (Jj43a)

What's the second scene? The first one is obviously the opening scene at the farmhouse. Which is why I weep for Tarentino. He is obviously capable of making *really* good movies, but all he ever produces is hyper-violent trash.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (8ADHC)

294
WTF?

I just changed the channel to espn and a huge fumble occurred.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (1mtMy)

295 281 267 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

There was The Thin Man series, Charlie Chan series, Sherlock Holmes, etc...
Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

That's true.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (nBr1j)

296 225 201 I totally forgot about the Billy Jack movies, which may not have been a bad thing

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:23 PM (aC6Sd)

Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays. Selling cars somewhere, maybe?

He's dead. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0490871/

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (MQeu/)

297 The Reeve Superman movies.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (oVJmc)

298 Gilligan's Island: the movie. Who's with me?

Hmmm... maybe.. Who plays Gilligan?

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (CNHr1)

299 Sequels have been aroound since films, Ma & Pa Kettle

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (aC6Sd)

300 David Fincher is remaking/making a sequel of World War Z with Brad Pitt. I think it will be awesome if they get it done.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (g4lFK)

301 There was The Thin Man series, Charlie Chan series, Sherlock Holmes, etc...

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

That's true.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (nBr1j)

The Road movies - Crosby and Hope

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (QLvwG)

302
The Oilers almost blew it there just like they did in 1993? against the Bills.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (1mtMy)

303 >>I liked him in Spy. And also all the Expendables.

Yeah, both instances he was good - and not the lead character, gets.
I like Jason Statham movies, just noticed a running theme. Maybe it's that he produces these ones, or simply has been typecast after doung Transporter?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (W+vEI)

304 In some ways I think movies are like a band's first album. A band's first album a lot of times has ideas that were kicked around for some years, got written, changed, buried, resurrected, redone, and after all that shit it ended up on a CD. Its gone through much refinement. Second albums come fairly quick, and a lot of times they don't have the magic because they're spit out in a year or so. I think movies are probably like that, the original idea might have years of refinement, simmer so to speak. Then the sequel is like hmmm wtf do I do now.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (aMlLZ)

305 Another one I loved. Based on a true story? Amazon has a "The Real Inglorious Bastards" story.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (nisXv)

There was also an old Bo Svenson movie called "Inglorious Bastards" about a team operating behind the lines in WWII. It was mostly schlock.

I liked the first 40 minutes of Inglorious Basterds. The rest of the movie was dogshit, as far my tastes go. I find this to be true of Tarantino movies, in general. Somewhere around the middle they just get stupid and muddled. And I get really sick of his lame-ass narration and chapter title boards. That's like junior high school shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (8gDQu)

306 300 David Fincher is remaking/making a sequel of World War Z with Brad Pitt. I think it will be awesome if they get it done.
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:38 PM (g4lFK)

What comes after Z? AA?

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:39 PM (ANIFC)

307 One of the best sequels is From Russia to Love. Goldfinger too. Then Bond became a franchise.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:39 PM (pV/54)

308 267 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

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Good question. Initial search of web says:

The first sequel ever made was "Fall of a Nation" (1916), a follow-up to D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" (1915). The first sequel containing a number was "The Godfather: Part II" (1974).

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:39 PM (BiLU+)

309 Prager - Being on the Left means never having to say" You're sorry"

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:39 PM (aC6Sd)

310 The Emmanuelle series gets better over the years.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:39 PM (g4lFK)

311 LOL. Must have needed the money ... I think my favorite film with him was "The Night of the Iguana."

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (BiLU+)

Burton made some really good movies:
Beckett, The Spy Who Came in From the Cold, Who's a Afraid of Virginia Wolf and Anne of a Thousand Days to name a few.

And a number of real crap ones like the Klansman. Where it was reported he was so drunk on the set he was literally sweating alcohol

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (SiINZ)

312 Zardoz - The Next Generation

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (fA1SL)

313 221 I agree with James Lileks, who once wrote a piece describing Tarantino's films as violence porn. He lamented that a perfectly good pop song, "Stuck in the Middle with You" was ruined by its use in a torture scene.

Tarantino is a sicko. I watched a couple of his early movies, but I've never had a desire to watch any more.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:26 PM (sdi6R)

++++

I thought Lileks was an idiot with that piece. The song was used in Reservoir Dogs, and that movie, while it had plenty of violence, also had a story. And, the torture was pretty limited. The cop lost an ear. While I'm sure I would think it was a pretty big deal if someone hacked my ear off, as torture goes, it wasn't that shocking to watch.

Now, if you are looking for Tarantino violence porn, Death Proof is the movie for you. No point, not much of a story, just a lot of explicit violence for no discernible reason whatsoever.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (FUu/Z)

314
There never was a Casablanca II was there.

It was called "Overdrawn At The Memory Bank" and starred Raul Julia.

Posted by: MST3K forever! at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (EzdLW)

315 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

Wasn't The Good The Bad and The Ugly part of Leone's trilogy?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (8gDQu)

316 Hmmm... maybe.. Who plays Gilligan?

Bronco Bama?

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (nisXv)

317 The Andy Hardy series was okay. The Thin Man series was the best.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (lwiT4)

318
Exorcist 2 is fantastic. It's got everything. Burton drunk, incoherent story, silly plot, LSD sequences and James Earl Jones spitting tomatoes.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (qGuLD)

319 293
What's the second scene? The first one is obviously the opening scene at the farmhouse. Which is why I weep for Tarentino. He is obviously capable of making *really* good movies, but all he ever produces is hyper-violent trash.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 06, 2018 07:37 PM (8ADHC)

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The underground bar. I love it so very much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (Jj43a)

320 Sequel to Gone With the Wind: Scarlett gets gang-raped by Union troops, and Rhett joins the Ku Klux Klan.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:41 PM (sdi6R)

321 283
How many Tremors sequels did they make? Why?

Because they were trying to recapture the magic of having Finn Carter being pantsed by a giant worm. It is the stuff of dreams. However, she did not, emphasis on the NOT, age well.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:41 PM (LAe3v)

322
The Falcon. The Saint. Boston Blackie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 07:41 PM (IqV8l)

323 The Parallex View should have had a sequel!

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (2X7pN)

324 There was The Thin Man series, Charlie Chan series, Sherlock Holmes, etc...

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

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Yeah. Those.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (lwiT4)

325 Now, if you are looking for Tarantino violence porn,
Death Proof is the movie for you. No point, not much of a story, just a
lot of explicit violence for no discernible reason whatsoever.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (FUu/Z)

Need a ride? Be glad to drop you off, Pam.

Posted by: Stuntman Mike at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (QLvwG)

326 The Resident Evil series lost my interest as well.

28 Days to 28 Weeks held up okay. Will there ever be a 28 Months?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:30 PM (QLvwG)

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Bringing back memories! I like them all, even if they are all zombie flicks. I like zombie flicks.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (O+Wek)

327 It was called "Overdrawn At The Memory Bank" and starred Raul Julia.
Posted by: MST3K forever! at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (EzdLW)

Hmm. Someone's been scrolling cinemas.

Well, as long as you're not an anteater.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (bNbo2)

328 Ted Cassidy vs Richard Kiel?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 07:21 PM (1mtMy)

Funny story I heard about Kiel on the set of The Spy Who Loved Me. A scene in Egypt they wanted him to walk across some scaffolding. He said, he couldn't because he was a afraid of heights. They looked up at him (7 foot 2) and he said, Oh I'm even afraid to be up this high

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (SiINZ)

329 323. We could call it 'SLR, FTW!'.

* camera snobs, please respond *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (fA1SL)

330 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

331 Mission Impossibles hold up.

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (g4lFK)

332 315 When did sequels become a thing? There never was a Casablanca II was there. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Uglier?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (nBr1j)

Wasn't The Good The Bad and The Ugly part of Leone's trilogy?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (8gDQu)

Were Leone's spaghetti westerns an original with sequels? Maybe they were but that's not how I remember them. My memory does fail, however.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (nBr1j)

333 You can argue that Yojimbo is a sequel to Seven Samurai.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (pV/54)

334 330 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?
Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

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I think Monty Python might have been. At least it was really unusual at that point in history.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (Jj43a)

335 How many Tremors sequels did they make? Why?

3 + a TV series season because they're all great!

Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (FhXTo)

336 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

The Long Long Trailer?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:44 PM (QLvwG)

337 333 You can argue that Yojimbo is a sequel to Seven Samurai.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (pV/54)

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Sanjuro is actually a sequel to Yojimbo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:44 PM (Jj43a)

338 Yeah, I wonder what Tom Laughlin is doing nowadays. Selling cars somewhere, maybe?

I think he's dead. Possibly of shame.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:28 PM (LAe3v)

Laughlin to claim in 1975 that "The youth of this country have only two heroes, Ralph Nader and Billy Jack."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:44 PM (SiINZ)

339 333. And rightly so. It's the same in both - same nameless man who assumes an obviously false name.
Leone made Spaghetti Kurosawa films.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)

340 Spoiler!

Split was kinda a sequel to Unbreakable

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (g4lFK)

341
Hmm. Someone's been scrolling cinemas.

Well, as long as you're not an anteater.
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (bNbo2)

Just don't turn me into a baboon. Anything but a baboon!

Posted by: MST3K forever! at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (EzdLW)

342 Can not wait for Sex and the City III: Horseface Does Tijuana!

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (2X7pN)

343 It's the same ronin played by Mifune, after the events of Seven Samurai.

Yojimbo is copied nearly exactly for A Fistful of Dollars, and many other times by Hollywood.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (pV/54)

344 Exorcist 2 is fantastic. It's got everything. Burton drunk, incoherent story, silly plot, LSD sequences and James Earl Jones spitting tomatoes.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (qGuLD)

Linda Blair's assets really stood out to me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

345 Which is probably why they went with the odd "they're aliens!" sci-fi angle and "reset" his immortality.

As I understand it, the collapse of the Argentinian dollar is what led to this movie becoming what it was, and, as I said, that is an epic unto itself.

It seems that the movie production was insured (as they are) through an Argentinian bond company, and when the Argentinian economy collapsed, they asserted control over the production due to their investment in it.

This meant you had accountants and bankers basically telling you what movie to make, and their intent was to make it as safely profitable as possible. To them, that meant special effects and 'aliens!' and all the other many rotten creative decisions obvious on screen.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (oVJmc)

346 279 Brian Cox has to be the hardest working man in show business. Even more than Michael Caine, he's in everything.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (pV/54)

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Even Super Troopers. And he was excellent. Love that old bastage. His voice is hypnotic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:35 PM (bNbo2)

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He was really good in a 2014 six-episode British TV mini-series I liked called "The Game". His spy boss character's name is "Daddy" ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (BiLU+)

347

Buckaroo Banzi: Electric Boogaloo Across the 8th Dimension was the best sequel ever!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (T/KY7)

348 Ghandhi II was a BIG departure from the first one.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (aRXNK)

349 An early cop or cowboy TV show.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (nisXv)

350 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM

Batman and Dr. Who both came out in 1966, I think. But there's probably something that preceded even those.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (qGuLD)

351 Andy Reid can't buy a win a home, too fumnny

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)

352
What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?
Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

Lassie

Just a wildass guess.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:46 PM (EzdLW)

353 I'm working on a sequel

Posted by: Hillary! at January 06, 2018 07:47 PM (DhcsO)

354 The Muppet Movie!

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:47 PM (2X7pN)

355 Lassie? No wait, I got it backwards. Was thinking the question was first TV show based on a movie.

D'oh!

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 07:47 PM (EzdLW)

356 Just stopping by to say John Wick 2 is garbage.

"You know what everyone thought was cool in the first one? The gunfights, right? So here's the plan: we make the entire last third of the movie a gunfight where he kills about 750 bad guys. And then have an asinine ending that we think is raising the stakes but is actually going to have to be recommend out if we ever make a part three.

"And the villain will be a douchey Italian with a stupid haircut.

"And Lawrence Fishburne owes us one, we'll throw him in there as the leader of the Bum Hitman Cartel."

*snorts line of coke off 15 year old Thai boy*

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 07:47 PM (NJm/2)

357 353 I'm working on a sequel
Posted by: Hillary! at January 06, 2018 07:47 PM (DhcsO)

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Does it count if neither of your first two actually got released?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (Jj43a)

358 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

The Long Long Trailer?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:44 PM (QLvwG)

That's what I was thinking but looking it up it wasn't based on the Ricky and Lucy characters

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (SiINZ)

359 5 SpiderMan 2

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An we get a banning here?

Posted by: MAGA at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (LnOh3)

360 Pussy Hat Ballou is a sequel destined to be made.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (nBr1j)

361 312 Zardoz - The Next Generation
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (fA1SL)
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As long as Wesley is dropped from a giant hovering stone head, I'm in.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (qJtVm)

362 348 Ghandhi II was a BIG departure from the first one.
Posted by: Minuteman at January 06, 2018 07:45 PM (aRXNK)

Gandhi II: This Time It's Personal

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

363 So here's the plan: we make the entire last third of the movie a gunfight where he kills about 750 bad guys.

They were very accommodating in lying there so that Keanu could administer the coup de grace without ruffling his hair.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:49 PM (LAe3v)

364 However I thought Gary Oldman was magnificent.
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It kills me whenever Gary says, "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis!?"

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (QCX64)

365 High Noon had an unsuccessful sequel called Mid-afternoon.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (nBr1j)

366 The 47 Ronin II - We're still dead.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (fA1SL)

367 Brian Cox has to be the hardest working man in show business. Even more than Michael Caine, he's in everything.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 07:33 PM (pV/54)

John Hurt is everywhere ... and always does a great job.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (8gDQu)

368 The Long Trailer was a good movie. Funny as hell. And Lucy was beautiful. Not as beautiful as Doris Day, but beautiful nonetheless.

Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (zLDYs)

369 Okay, I am getting sloppy. It is amazing what a couple three Kahlua and coffees will do! Have a good evening folks!

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (2X7pN)

370 365
High Noon had an unsuccessful sequel called Mid-afternoon.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish

And the less said about ITS sequel, "High Tea", the better.

Posted by: pep at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (LAe3v)

371 Maybe I just like revenge porn ?

* thinks *

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (FusDs)

372 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

373 367
John Hurt is everywhere ... and always does a great job.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (8gDQu)

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Well... Not anymore...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (Jj43a)

374 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?

Possibly The Lone Ranger (1956)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (oVJmc)

375 Yeah - so *not* my cup of tea. Funniest Tarantino I've seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSV35A1cQDM

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:32 PM (W+vEI)

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Kelly McGillis represents heterosexuality? Tarantino really is an imbecile.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (O+Wek)

376
What's the concensus on Predator 2? Personally I think it's a good sequel. Not as good as the original and a step down, but overall a great flick in it's own right and has a lot going for it.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (qGuLD)

377 Broderick Crawford in Highway Patrol.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (nisXv)

378 372 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

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I Am Legend?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (Jj43a)

379 As long as Wesley is dropped from a giant hovering stone head, I'm in.
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In the film's first two minutes.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (QCX64)

380 Well... Not anymore...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (Jj43a)

Is he dead? That's a shame.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (8gDQu)

381 John Hurt is everywhere ... and always does a great job.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:50 PM (8gDQu)

++++

Not so much lately.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (pvjTE)

382 I think we're ripe for a resurrection of the Beverly Hills Cop franchise. Just a hunch.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (bJ0w+)

383 @372

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Seriously that kid is a sociopath

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (NJm/2)

384 What was the first movie to be based on a TV show?

Possibly The Lone Ranger (1956)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (oVJmc)
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Did the movie come first, though?

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (lwiT4)

385 Now, if you are looking for Tarantino violence porn, Death Proof is the movie for you. No point, not much of a story, just a lot of explicit violence for no discernible reason whatsoever.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (FUu/Z)

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"Natural Born Killers" -- the first movie I ever walked out of ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (BiLU+)

386 376
What's the concensus on Predator 2? Personally I think it's a good sequel. Not as good as the original and a step down, but overall a great flick in it's own right and has a lot going for it.
Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (qGuLD)

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I get quite the kick out of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (Jj43a)

387 I don't suppose anyone remembers that "The Bourne Identity" was first made into a mini series starring Richard Chamberlain and Jaclyn Smith in the late 80's(I think). My recollection is that it was decent and followed the book fairly closely. Also had a lot of good actors in secondary roles.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 07:53 PM (jm1YL)

388 I should've been able to at kinda enjoy Jaws 3D, because

I loved the first movie.
I had the hots for Dennis Quaid.
My hawt boss's hawt wife was one of the ski show gals in the movie who almost gets chomped, so that part was fun to watch from a personal standpoint. Not that I wanted to see her get chomped, mind you. I liked her.

That movie was so bad I couldn't even watch the whole thing, even though I like movies that are so bad they're good. Thinking about giving it another try just out of nostalgia.

Posted by: stace at January 06, 2018 07:53 PM (6HFDU)

389 >>>>>It's the same ronin played by Mifune, after the events of Seven Samurai.<<<<

Yojimbo is a zombie?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 06, 2018 07:53 PM (3DZIZ)

390 372 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

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I think it's called Jeepers.

And there was the one with the black guy that end with him losing to a demon spirit.

Posted by: MAGA at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (LnOh3)

391 317 The Thin Man series was the best.
Posted by: grammie winger - at January 06, 2018 07:40 PM (lwiT4)

I remember the last one as a bit ragged. The second one was my favorite by far. Jimmy Stewart and "Aunt Catherine."

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (Vb4BV)

392 Dragnet had a movie version in 1954.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (oVJmc)

393 Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Seriously that kid is a sociopath

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (NJm/2)
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I heard he visited his sister's church at Christmas and read something - maybe The Christmas Carol"

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (lwiT4)

394 I liked "Barbarian Queen II" by Roger Corman.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (7JbXq)

395 "Natural Born Killers" -- the first movie I ever walked out of ...
Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (BiLU+)

Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid movie.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (NWiLs)

396
Did the movie come first, though?

The series was 1949-57.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (oVJmc)

397 Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Seriously that kid is a sociopath
Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (NJm/2)

I loathe that fooking movie. Except for Erin Gray.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (bNbo2)

398 OMG, look how young Mike Stoklasa, Rich Evans, and Jay Baumann are in this 2002(!) video on the Star Wars prequels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJWMxjWQoo

I feel kind of pervy watching it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 07:55 PM (qJtVm)

399 392. Radio serial before all else.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:55 PM (fA1SL)

400 376
What's the concensus on Predator 2? Personally I think it's a good sequel. Not as good as the original and a step down, but overall a great flick in it's own right and has a lot going for it.
Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (qGuLD)

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Got more hate then it deserves.

Posted by: MAGA at January 06, 2018 07:55 PM (LnOh3)

401 Jaws3D is hilarious.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 06, 2018 07:55 PM (3DZIZ)

402 The second one was my favorite by far. Jimmy Stewart and "Aunt Catherine."

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (Vb4BV)
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Ya, that's a good one. I'm not sure if Jimmy Stewart ever had a main part before that film.

Posted by: grammie winger - at January 06, 2018 07:55 PM (lwiT4)

403 372 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

Jurassic Park, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, any Friday the 13th movie.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 07:55 PM (Vb4BV)

404 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

The Fog.

As I recall ... they not only "win" ... they were right.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 07:56 PM (FusDs)

405 "Dolemite Goes to Washington"........

Can you dig it?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 07:56 PM (EoRCO)

406 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

A very creepy movie called "Drag Me To Hell".

Also, in those Japanese horror flicks (like the Grudge and the Ring and stuff) I think the ending is always with the monster/ghost/whatever living on to kill more idiots.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:56 PM (8gDQu)

407 >>Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

*spoilers, obviously*
The Cave
Morgan
Ex Machina
Life

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:57 PM (W+vEI)

408 That's what I was thinking but looking it up it wasn't based on the Ricky and Lucy characters

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 06, 2018 07:48 PM (SiINZ)

Not explicitly and not even slyly, BUT, all the elements were there. Lucille Ball collecting rocks vs Lucy collecting autographed oranges and coconuts on their Hollywood trip. Road trip adventures. Desi having a freak out at Lucille's antics. Lucille vs Lucy scheming. Mishaps like attempting to cook in the trailer while underway.
So very similar to the I Love Lucy show.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:57 PM (QLvwG)

409 The "Hateful Eight" wasn't a western at all.

It was an Agatha Christie style drawing room mystery all Tarantinoed up.

It really doesn't hold together all that well. My guess is that Tarantino had a bunch a of dialogue he loved left over from Django and used the drawing room mystery to structure it not a movie.

Very very meh.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2018 07:57 PM (9q7Dl)

410 372 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

++++

The Alaskan vampire movie, 30 Days of Night, ended with a kind of a draw. The leaders of the vampires and town are killed, but others survive. So, the vampires survive to suck blood another day.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 07:58 PM (FUu/Z)

411 406. Drag Me to Hell is, above all else, a cautionary tale.

If that bank hadn't given that Gypsy a mortgage.......

Lesson - No gypsies, Irish, or dogs.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:58 PM (fA1SL)

412 372 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Roger and Me
An Inconvenient Truth

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 07:58 PM (Vb4BV)

413 So Jeepers Creepers.

Ferris is a clever call btw. Complete sociopath.

And a movie with a black man losing to a demon spirit? I'm not familiar with this one.... Anybody know a name?

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:58 PM (g4lFK)

414 411 406. Drag Me to Hell is, above all else, a cautionary tale.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:58 PM (fA1SL)

The main lesson I learned was "keep your car neat and organized."

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 07:59 PM (Vb4BV)

415 >>Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

*spoilers, obviously*
The Cave
Morgan
Ex Machina
Life

Posted by: Lizzy at January 06, 2018 07:57 PM (W+vEI)

The Thing.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 07:59 PM (QLvwG)

416 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 07:58 PM (fA1SL)

LOL. But true.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 07:59 PM (8gDQu)

417 376
What's the concensus on Predator 2? Personally I think it's a good sequel. Not as good as the original and a step down, but overall a great flick in it's own right and has a lot going for it.
Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM (qGuLD)

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I get quite the kick out of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:52 PM

Yes!!! Very under rated and a hell of a lot of fun... and what a cast, Gary Busey, Robert Davi, Maria Conchita alonso, Adam Baldwin and Bill Paxton in top for. Not as lean and mean as the original, but dammit, there's a lot of good shit in it and it's a fun ride.

"Want some candy?"... "Let's dance, motherfucker!"

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 07:59 PM (qGuLD)

418 Raymond Burr Godzilla movie coming on Svengoolie. Man did that spawn some sequels.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 07:59 PM (UdKB7)

419 2001 is starting on TCM

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (aC6Sd)

420 I liked 30 Days of Night -- good of its kind.

Danny Huston was a great head vampire, and Mellissa George is hot,

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (pV/54)

421 413. Jad John Goodman in it. Fallen. A good flick.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (fA1SL)

422 "Highlander"
There REALLY should have been only one.

Posted by: Steven Y. at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (CgUCE)

423 Lucy really was "high maintenance."

Was that the schtick? or was it real. I read that she was really pissed at Patty Duke for popping Desi Jr's cherry.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (7JbXq)

424 Tropic Thunder is great if you go in knowing it's Tom Cruise's greatest role.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (qCKDU)

That main failure of TT is that Tom Cruise didn't...uh...fertilize a ficus.

Les Grossman is supposed to be a dead-on impression of Harvey Weinstein.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (9q7Dl)

425 And there was the one with the black guy that end with him losing to a demon spirit.

Posted by: MAGA at January 06, 2018 07:54 PM (LnOh3)

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Fallen. That was a good one.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (FUu/Z)

426 As far as remakes go, I really liked the 1970s version of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". The 1950s original is a classic, of course, but I think both of them can stand on their own.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (sdi6R)

427 Godzilla always wins.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)

428 [H]ad John Goodman in it. Fallen. A good flick.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (fA1SL)

Fallen was a GREAT movie!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:01 PM (8gDQu)

429
Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 07:51 PM (g4lFK)

Quite a few zombie movies do that. They win (though don't "live" per se).

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:01 PM (EzdLW)

430 :: takes notes::

Thanks!

Posted by: Monk at January 06, 2018 08:01 PM (g4lFK)

431 Villain wins... Revenge of the Sith? Or does that not count as a movie?

Also, I read the Ferris thing somewhere. Rings true, though.

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:02 PM (NJm/2)

432 "Natural Born Killers" -- the first movie I ever walked out of ...

Nasty piece of work there. I didn't care for it but I have no doubt there are humans like that and worse in this world.

Posted by: dartist at January 06, 2018 08:02 PM (nisXv)

433 Fallen. That was a good one.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 08:00 PM (FUu/Z)

Denzel Washington.

There was also an Arnold Movie that came out at the same time, End of Days(?) - kind of the same theme.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:02 PM (ycWCI)

434 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?
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The Hillary Clinton Story... upcoming fantasy film.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2018 08:03 PM (QCX64)

435 "317 The Thin Man series was the best."

I loved the first movie. I never tire of watching it. Myrna Loy was just lovely and had great chemistry with William Powell. The Christmas morning scene where Nora, in her new mink coat, sits and watches Nick shot balloons with his new handgun is my favorite. The look on Nora's face is priceless. Great movie.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:03 PM (jm1YL)

436 Tropic Thunder is great if you go in knowing it's Tom Cruise's greatest role.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 06, 2018 06:45 PM (qCKDU)

I saw that not knowing he was in it, but I agree that it is his best role. Because I was literally halfway through the movie before I figured out who Grossman was.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:03 PM (bNbo2)

437
Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Ruins

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (EzdLW)

438 When someone mentioned a demon and a black lead, I thought of Event Horizon.

Great Movie (until the end which is just ok.) I think it does a really good job of the haunted Ghost Ship thing in space. As long as it is a psychological terror piece it works well.

As soon as Sam Neill (spoilers) rips his eyes out, the movie deflated for me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (ycWCI)

439 Timeout!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2018 08:05 PM (ANIFC)

440 Another interesting topic would be films where you WANT a sequel.

For me, the first that comes to mind was a sequel to "Office Space."

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 08:06 PM (BiLU+)

441 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

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2012

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 08:06 PM (ANIFC)

442 >>>Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?<<<

King Kong? He doesn't exactly live, but he's winning. Bigly.

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2018 08:07 PM (bJ0w+)

443 Fin fact - toshiro mifuni was offered the original Vader role.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:07 PM (fA1SL)

444 Stranger In A Strange Land by Robert Heinlein would make a great movie, but whoreywood would probably SJW the crap out of it.

Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2018 08:07 PM (zLDYs)

445 Predator 2 is a lesser but enjoyable sequel. I think it's largely because they didn't try to recreate the first film. And a solid performance by Danny Glover.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:08 PM (EzdLW)

446 Oh yeah, Gojira. A wildly uneven series. I loved Gadzooky as a kid but think he may be more of a Scrappy Doo were I to revisit the movie. Still, he was awful cute blowing smoke rings on his first attempts at breathing fire.

Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster was in the "so bad it's fantastic" category.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 08:08 PM (qJtVm)

447 As soon as Sam Neill (spoilers) rips his eyes out, the movie deflated for me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (ycWCI)

I wanted to like that one.

But you hit it ... they built all that shit up ... to do nothing with it at the end.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (FusDs)

448
2001 is starting on TCM

Gorilla Channel!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (IqV8l)

449 Another interesting topic would be films where you WANT a sequel.

For me, the first that comes to mind was a sequel to "Office Space."

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 08:06 PM

Idiocracy2: The Dumbening.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (qGuLD)

450 I don't hold this against the movie, but I find it hilarious that they boil the entire ten year conflict down to about a week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 07:18 PM (Jj43a)

Then that would accurately depict the time frame covered by the Iliad. That poem does not recite the events of the entire Trojan war; it only describes what happened during a short period near the end. Most of the other events that people think they know about from "the Iliad" were actually described in the other poems of the Epic Cycle, all of which (except for the Odyssey) are now lost (although they were excerpted, and thus preserved for posterity, by other authors from classical history).

This actually touches on an issue that has been bothering me for a time, which is that the lack of a classical education leads to this sort of misunderstanding. Just a day ago, a regular commenter was practically boasting that he couldn't read Plutarch's Lives because it was too boring. OK, well that's great and your choice and everything, but then there are a lot of the lessons of Western Civilization that you're missing.

Posted by: HTL at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (HJhN4)

451 "toshiro mifuni was offered the original Vader role."

Star Wars started as Kurosawa in space.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (pV/54)

452 Most sequels don't work for the same reason most novels are not part of a series. Most characters are invented to propel the plot of one specific story. Trying to make the same set of characters serve for 2 or 3 or 4 stories is like trying to use one Kcup to make 4 cups of coffee- you just end up with tinted water.
Novelists who use the same characters for more than one novel generally start out knowing they are going to write a trilogy or a series.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (L6WxG)

453
Another interesting topic would be films where you WANT a sequel.

For me, the first that comes to mind was a sequel to "Office Space."
Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 08:06 PM (BiLU+)

Only if they let Mike Judge write it. Anyone else would probably put out a hot mess.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:10 PM (EzdLW)

454 Turn that play clock back on!!!

Posted by: Mortimer Reid at January 06, 2018 08:10 PM (Tyii7)

455 Captain Video had a movie serial in 1951.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 08:10 PM (oVJmc)

456 451. The Hidden Fortress, right down to the two bungling peasants.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:10 PM (fA1SL)

457 If Star Wars was Samurai, it would have ended when Yoda and Kenobi committed lightsaber seppuku at the end of ROTS

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:10 PM (NJm/2)

458 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Whatever that pos was that had Mickey Rourke and Deniro played Louis Cypher. Get it? Louis Cypher-Lucifer. Get it?

What a pos that crap was.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 06, 2018 08:11 PM (zgj/N)

459 458: Angel Heart.

Which I loved. Creepy, weird movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 08:12 PM (MQeu/)

460
Whatever that pos was that had Mickey Rourke and Deniro played Louis Cypher. Get it? Louis Cypher-Lucifer. Get it?

What a pos that crap was.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 06, 2018 08:11 PM (zgj/N)

Angel Somethingorother.

I thought it was okay.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:12 PM (8gDQu)

461 405 "Dolemite Goes to Washington"........

Can you dig it?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 07:56 PM (EoRCO)

The Speaker recognizes the rat-soup eatin' muthafucka from Illinois.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 08:12 PM (ANIFC)

462 Errr...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:13 PM (8gDQu)

463 Double Oops

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:13 PM (8gDQu)

464 embarrelening

Posted by: Mortimer Reid at January 06, 2018 08:13 PM (Tyii7)

465 Keep trying...

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (bNbo2)

466 I saw that not knowing he was in it, but I agree that it is his best role. Because I was literally halfway through the movie before I figured out who Grossman was.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:03 PM (bNbo2)

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You're sharper than me. I kept thinking "this guy is hilarious... who is he?" and then at the credits "Tom Cruise???". I didn't realize he had that range.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (O+Wek)

467 embarrelening

Posted by: Mortimer Reid at January 06, 2018 08:13 PM (Tyii7)

No. Two wrongs make a right.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (8gDQu)

468 the collapse of the Argentinian dollar

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Didja see this?

Venezuela supermarkets besieged after govt forces price cuts...

And as long as I'm talking news:

73-Year-Old Woman Delivering Meals To The Homeless Attacked With Machete. 32-year-old Abukar Ibrahim was the one with a machete. 73 year kld chick uncovered triggered him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (+y/Ru)

469 Mifune is reported to have turned down star wars because he didn't do children's movies.

He was brilliant in Hara Kiri (Seppuku). He showed a range I hadn't expected from him.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (fA1SL)

470 Lucifer just means light. 'Light's is a last name, IIRC. Why not just call him Dr. Light?

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:15 PM (NJm/2)

471 Stranger In A Strange Land by Robert Heinlein would make a great movie, but whoreywood would probably SJW the crap out of it.
Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2018 08:07 PM (zLDYs)

Starship Troopers could have been a damn classic.

But the themes are uncomfortable. So ... they fucked it up.

Heinlein wrote some strange shit in things like Mark Of The Beast. But he nailed it in Starship Troopers.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 08:15 PM (FusDs)

472 3 + a TV series season because they're all great!
Posted by: DaveA at January 06, 2018 07:43 PM (FhXTo)

Reba was essential to Tremors.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 06, 2018 08:15 PM (brIR5)

473 I liked the original Thin Man, the others were okay, but even they sometimes had some great moments. "I didn't come here to watch youse two dance around the maypole!"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:16 PM (O+Wek)

474 Whatever that pos was that had Mickey Rourke and Deniro played Louis Cypher. Get it? Louis Cypher-Lucifer. Get it?

What a pos that crap was.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 06, 2018 08:11 PM (zgj/N)

++++

Angel Heart. I enjoyed it. Of course, at the time, Lisa Bonet taking her clothes off was all the story I needed.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 06, 2018 08:16 PM (FUu/Z)

475 >>>
If Star Wars was Samurai, it would have ended when Yoda and Kenobi committed lightsaber seppuku at the end of ROTS<<<

I always wondered why Yoda wasn't pile-driving the lady ewoks on Endor in ROTJ. Wouldn't that be on your bucket list if you knew you were dying?

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2018 08:16 PM (bJ0w+)

476 438
As soon as Sam Neill (spoilers) rips his eyes out, the movie deflated for me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (ycWCI)

I don't want to see stuff like that. I have plenty of nightmares on my own without any assistance.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

477 Mifune plays a doctor in Kurosawa's Red Beard. He (and it) are quite good.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 08:16 PM (pV/54)

478 Number Of The Beast ... my stupidity continues.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 08:16 PM (FusDs)

479 Star Wars (no episode number-ever) was a really fun, simple movie. Empire crapped on it by turning Obi Wan into a lying, manipulative dick, Luke and Leia into a winking incestuous story thread, and Vader into a hackneyed plot twist. The less said about the toy commercial that was Return, the better.

YMMV

Posted by: goozer at January 06, 2018 08:17 PM (sq+HB)

480 469. Scratch that. It wasn't mifune.

But those samurai allook the same.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:17 PM (fA1SL)

481 "Natural Born Killers" -- the first movie I ever walked out of ...

Nasty piece of work there. I didn't care for it but I have no doubt there are humans like that and worse in this world.

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Many of them in congress.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (+y/Ru)

482 The words of the prophets are written in The Barrel's walls.

Posted by: zombie Simon & Garfunkle at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (DMUuz)

483 Idiocracy2: The Dumbening.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (qGuLD)

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Good call, would love to see that. They wouldn't even have to imagine or create, they could just steal from today's headlines ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (BiLU+)

484 But those samurai allook the same.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:17 PM (fA1SL)

Tell me about it ...

Posted by: iPhone at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (8gDQu)

485 73-Year-Old Woman Delivering Meals To The Homeless Attacked With
Machete. 32-year-old Abukar Ibrahim was the one with a machete. 73 year
kld chick uncovered triggered him.

I'll bet Abukar would enjoy a nice helicopter ride.

Posted by: Mortimer Reid at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (Tyii7)

486
You're sharper than me. I kept thinking "this guy is hilarious... who is he?" and then at the credits "Tom Cruise???". I didn't realize he had that range.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (O+Wek)

I would never have figured it out on my own. I read that about Cruise before I saw the movie, which I really liked overall. You never go full retard.

Posted by: stace at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (6HFDU)

487 Clearly the most successful sequel of all time was Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. It saved the franchise after the disastrous ST:TMP.

Honorable mentions to From Russia with Love and Godfather II. And Empire Strikes Back is still the best Star Wars movie.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at January 06, 2018 08:19 PM (Lk8va)

488 ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 08:15 PM (FusDs)

We have a story about fascist government systems and an interstellar war.

Let's get the guy who did Showgirls.

To be fair, he also made Robocop and Soldiers of Orange, but, well...

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:19 PM (NJm/2)

489 Triangle is another example of a movie where the monster lives. Of course, she is also trapped in her own private hell.

And justly so.

I am still not sure whether I like that movie. I come down on the not liking it, I think, because I have no sympathy for the main character after the reveal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:19 PM (ycWCI)

490 They should just throw poo at him

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:19 PM (aC6Sd)

491 486
You're sharper than me. I kept thinking "this guy is hilarious... who is he?" and then at the credits "Tom Cruise???". I didn't realize he had that range.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:14 PM (O+Wek)

I would never have figured it out on my own. I read that about Cruise before I saw the movie, which I really liked overall. You never go full retard.
Posted by: stace at January 06, 2018 08:18 PM (6HFDU)

I love that after Robert Downey Jr comes out of jail, then stars in a mega hit as Iron Man, his next project is a role in blackface!

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 08:21 PM (ANIFC)

492 Triangle is another example of a movie where the monster lives. Of course, she is also trapped in her own private hell.

And justly so.

I am still not sure whether I like that movie. I come down on the not liking it, I think, because I have no sympathy for the main character after the reveal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:19 PM (ycWCI)

Triangle was an excellent movie. It suffered from a few minor flaws (which are hard to get away from with any sort of time-looping story) but, overall, was a very well-done interesting film.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:21 PM (8gDQu)

493 450
Then that would accurately depict the time frame covered by the Iliad. That poem does not recite the events of the entire Trojan war; it only describes what happened during a short period near the end. Most of the other events that people think they know about from "the Iliad" were actually described in the other poems of the Epic Cycle, all of which (except for the Odyssey) are now lost (although they were excerpted, and thus preserved for posterity, by other authors from classical history).

Posted by: HTL at January 06, 2018 08:09 PM (HJhN4)

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Yeah, but The Iliad also doesn't include Paris taking Helen or Agamemnon solidifying his hold over the rest of Greece beforehand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:21 PM (Jj43a)

494 The next hour of this film should be cut to 15 minutes

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:21 PM (aC6Sd)

495 453
Only if they let Mike Judge write it. Anyone else would probably put out a hot mess.
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:10 PM (EzdLW)

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I remember when The Matrix first came out. I thought, "The sequels will only be good if the Wachowskis are allowed to make them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:22 PM (Jj43a)

496 I thought, "The sequels will only be good if the Wachowskis are allowed to make them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:22 PM (Jj43a)

They were too busy hacking their weiners off.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:23 PM (8gDQu)

497 Sharknado 2, 3, 4 & 5, anybody?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (DNH+H)

498
I love that after Robert Downey Jr comes out of jail, then stars in a mega hit as Iron Man, his next project is a role in blackface!
Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 08:21 PM (ANIFC)

I know right? Such goofy fun.

Posted by: stace at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (6HFDU)

499 Didn't one of the Jason slasher movies have him at a camp in outer space?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (ks6bw)

500 Another movie where the monster wins and lives (I think? ) :

The Babadook

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (EzdLW)

501 I, Toyna wasn't half bad.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (I/iGu)

502 Didn't one of the Jason slasher movies have him at a camp in outer space?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (ks6bw)

Yes, that was Jason and the Astronauts.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:25 PM (8gDQu)

503 Aliens is a good sequel to Alien because it jumped genres, from spooky haunted house to action/adventure.

Sequels I wish we'd had: Buckaroo Banzai.

Tarantino is a derivative hack. Hatefeul 8 was awful.

The Exorcist III was actually not bad. Again, a genre jumper. Total different premise. And scary. And George C. SCOTT!!!(Turn it off, TURN IT OFF!!)

Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 08:25 PM (+Tibp)

504 500 Another movie where the monster wins and lives (I think? ) :

The Babadook
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (EzdLW)

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It's a manifestation of the main character's guilt, which she learns to manage by the end. So it's still alive, still dangerous, but managed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:26 PM (Jj43a)

505 485. He and his entire extended family.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:26 PM (fA1SL)

506
The Exorcist III was actually not bad. Again, a genre jumper. Total different premise. And scary. And George C. SCOTT!!!(Turn it off, TURN IT OFF!!)
Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 08:25 PM (+Tibp)

Big. Honkin'. Scissors.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 08:26 PM (eXA4G)

507 Could the Eastwood spaghetti westerns be considered a franchise?
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 06:55 PM (aC6Sd)

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They're grouped together, but the third one Clint plays a distinctly different character from the first two, which are most likely directly connected. Hell, in the third one he's got a name!

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There was actually a lawsuit about that. There was some copyright-type dispute when someone got shut out of For a Few Dollars More. The Holding: the character in A Fistful of Dollars is not the same character as in For a Few Dollars More.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 08:27 PM (+y/Ru)

508 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Ruins

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (EzdLW)

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Funny Games. It's kind of a metaphor for what Angela Merkel is doing to Germany.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:27 PM (O+Wek)

509 499. Why not? They dis a Hellraiser sequel in space.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:27 PM (fA1SL)

510
Didn't one of the Jason slasher movies have him at a camp in outer space?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:24 PM (ks6bw)

Jason X

It's not a real camp, but a holodeck simulation of the camp created by the ship's crew in a desperate attempt to fool Jason and keep him from killing them.

It's kind of a fun entry in the series. A bit tongue in cheek. ("You guys, it's OK! He just wanted his machete back!")

And a couple of hotties from the "Andromeda" series.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:27 PM (EzdLW)

511 Stranger In A Strange Land by Robert Heinlein would make a great movie, but whoreywood would probably SJW the crap out of it.

Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2018 08:07 PM (zLDYs)

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I found my old copy and re-read a bit over the holidays. Just the distinct, and crucial, male vs female roles in the first few pages would make them can the movie. Or else they'd just use the name to try to get people to come watch something that has nothing to do with the book.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:28 PM (ks6bw)

512 I like the original three Bourne movies quite a bit.

I've never understood the sentiment that they are somehow leftist. The idea that a poorly supervised clandestine agency spawns mischief is not leftist. As near as I can tell, that's a fair characterization of a lot of CIA history.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:28 PM (H5knJ)

513 Fall the fastest? Easy Smokey and the Bandit

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 06, 2018 08:28 PM (8TQ1K)

514 A sequel to Strange Brew would have been fun, but last time I saw Dave Thomas he looked like he was in the waiting room for the Great Beyond. No idea what Rick Moranis is up to.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:29 PM (bNbo2)

515 I never noticed the space station furniture in 2001 was made by Ikea.

Posted by: Eromero at January 06, 2018 08:29 PM (zLDYs)

516 The Lone Ranger: Radio to TV series to Movie

Blondie/Dagwood: Comics to Movie (series)

Little Orphan Annie: Radio to Comics to Broadway Musical to Movie

Any other properties able to successfully pro*gress thru multiple media mediums?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:29 PM (QLvwG)

517 516. Dragnet.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (fA1SL)

518 Movie sequels seldom work, and yet the publishing industry forces writers to wring dozens of sequels out of a set of characters. Think of the 30 or more Spencer novels, the something like 20 Jack Reacher novels, all the Tom Clancy books that continued even after he was mort and with Jack Ryan as President for about eleventy zillion years and so forth. Think how many great books have never been written because the publishers force successful writers to recycle old crap forever. And don't even think about bringing up James Patterson, the guy who puts out a best seller about every six weeks. At least Stephen King comes up with new stuff every six weeks, although Crom knows how he gets away with it. If he got caught up in the publisher's model like those others mentioned above, every one of his books would be about Pennywise.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (md3fh)

519 Movies where the monster lives.

It Follows

Oh, how could I have forgotten that fantastic little horror movie? Great flick.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (EzdLW)

520 Somebody in the neighborhood has leftover fireworks from New Year's and wants to use them up.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

521 Also, watching the original Godzilla, the one where they spliced in scenes of Raymond Burr to get the round eye audience. It kinda works.

It's either that or 2001: A Space Odyssey (speaking of bad sequels)

Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (+Tibp)

522 514 No idea what Rick Moranis is up to.
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:29 PM (bNbo2)

I thought he retired from show business to care for his kids.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (Vb4BV)

523 512 I like the original three Bourne movies quite a bit.

I've never understood the sentiment that they are somehow leftist. The idea that a poorly supervised clandestine agency spawns mischief is not leftist. As near as I can tell, that's a fair characterization of a lot of CIA history.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:28 PM (H5knJ)

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Hollywood: "The US government has a deep state that answers to no one!"

Also Hollywood: "Donald Trump is a moron for talking about a deep state."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (Jj43a)

524 Little Orphan Annie: Radio to Comics to Broadway Musical to Movie

REMEMBER TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:31 PM (bNbo2)

525 Didn't one of the Jason slasher movies have him at a camp in outer space?

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It's not a real camp, but a holodeck simulation of the camp...

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Okay, full disclosure: I wrote "at a camp" as a tongue-in-cheek comment about the absurdity of Jason in outer space. I had no idea that there was actually some "camp" role in the movie, which makes it even better.

It's meta all the way down.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:31 PM (ks6bw)

526 Tarantino is a jerkoff who loves the sound of his own voice.

I'm waiting for him to get the Aztec Sun Temple treatment from the SJWs over how much he loves N-bombs.

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:31 PM (NJm/2)

527 'Any other properties able to successfully pro*gress thru multiple media mediums?'

Buck Rogers
Flash Gordon
Tarzan
Superman

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (UdKB7)

528
No idea what Rick Moranis is up to.
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:29 PM (bNbo2)

If memory serves, he retired from show business about 20 years ago to raise his kids.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (eXA4G)

529 526 Tarantino is a jerkoff who loves the sound of his own voice.

I'm waiting for him to get the Aztec Sun Temple treatment from the SJWs over how much he loves N-bombs.
Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:31 PM (NJm/2)

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When Sam Jackson turns on him, and not before.

So... Probably never.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (Jj43a)

530 Species was an awful movie. And the sequel went down hill from there.

The Hidden is a great little movie. The sequel, not so much.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (Qk41M)

531 Nasty transitions from TV to Film?

Wild Wild West,
Beverly Hillbillies,
Bay Watch,
Addams Family,
etc.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:33 PM (7JbXq)

532 Dragnet.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (fA1SL)

Yes, for certain values of movie 'success'.
Also Dick Tracy. Ibid.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:33 PM (QLvwG)

533 I loved Species.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:33 PM (7JbXq)

534 510:And a couple of hotties from the "Andromeda" series.
Posted by: Hands

Never saw Jason X but since you've mentioned "Andromeda"; Lexa Doig is a very pretty lady.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 08:33 PM (MQeu/)

535 470 Lucifer just means light.....
Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:15 PM (NJm/2)
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Light-bearer or Light-bringer. (the FER is from the verb to carry/bring)

Heh. Remember when that moonbat columnist called Obama the Light Bringer?!? Cracked me up.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2018 08:34 PM (0jtPF)

536 I thought he retired from show business to care for his kids.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 08:30 PM (Vb4BV)

If memory serves, he retired from show business about 20 years ago to raise his kids.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (eXA4G)

Yup. Sounds like something he would do. Pretty cool.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:34 PM (bNbo2)

537 532. C'mon! The virgin Connie Swayle, People Against Goodness and Normalcy, goat-skin leggings.....and Harry Morgan.

What more could you ask?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:34 PM (fA1SL)

538 Bronson, Missouri

https://youtu.be/-Bt4Ly9_9Qg

Well Tim Pool just clued me in on why there was so much joking about fighting gorillas. It serves me right for reading the comments but not all of the posts.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 06, 2018 08:35 PM (rnAwa)

539 @523 - Yeah, it's kind of how the left is always insisting only cops should have guns; that is, when they're not insisting that cops are killing black folks indiscriminately. (Some conservatives have have the same affilication in reverse.)

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:35 PM (H5knJ)

540 531 Nasty transitions from TV to Film?

Wild Wild West,
Beverly Hillbillies,
Bay Watch,
Addams Family,
etc.
Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:33 PM (7JbXq)

Wednesday stole the show in the Addams Family movie, though.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

541 Slightly OT but I have to brag: A couple of days ago I happened across one of those stupid "X Number of Y" things that was titled "The 20 best TV shows ever according to viewers". I was so proud that I had never seen even ONE of the POS that the idiots that spend all their time watching the Boob Tube (as we old farts used to call it back in the day) like to think is improving their feeble little minds.

I waste my time lurking at AOS. Er, yeah. At least I learn things, some of which is really weird but interesting, in a way. Oh, well, I better stop before I hurt someone's feelings.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (md3fh)

542 531 Nasty transitions from TV to Film?

Wild Wild West,
Beverly Hillbillies,
Bay Watch,
Addams Family,
etc.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:33 PM (7JbXq)

I thought the Addams Family movies had great casting / actors and terrible, stupid stories. They could have been great movies with the same cast, but with actual coherent scripts.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (DNH+H)

543 Addams Family reference reminded me that I liked Addams Family Values way more than the first film.

Why?

Pubert.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (bNbo2)

544 Rick Moranis is probably taking care of his grandkids now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (IqV8l)

545

Munsters Go Home!?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 08:37 PM (1mtMy)

546
Species is a mixed bag. The first half is good. Setting up the story, concepts and buildup. But it kind of just gets boring as a chase movie in the second half.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 08:37 PM (qGuLD)

547 "Nasty transitions from TV to Film?

Wild Wild West,
Beverly Hillbillies,
Bay Watch,
Addams Family,
etc."

I kind of liked the Addams Family.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:37 PM (jm1YL)

548 543 Addams Family reference reminded me that I liked Addams Family Values way more than the first film.

Why?

Pubert.
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (bNbo2)

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The summer camp stuff was gold.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:37 PM (Jj43a)

549 514: No idea what Rick Moranis is up to.

I believe he decided that he was going to raise his family as far from Horrywood as possible. He keeps his life private the best he can. I respect him.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 08:38 PM (MQeu/)

550 Another one where the monster lives: Fallen.

Good film too.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:38 PM (H5knJ)

551 Buck Rogers

Flash Gordon

Tarzan

Superman

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (UdKB7)

Was Superman ever a radio series?
All I know of Tarzan was Johnny Weismuller movie serials and the later movie remakes. It was from a book, right? So spanning multiple media. Was it ever a comic or radio show?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:38 PM (QLvwG)

552 537 532. C'mon! The virgin Connie Swayle, People Against Goodness and Normalcy, goat-skin leggings.....and Harry Morgan.

What more could you ask?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 06, 2018 08:34 PM (fA1SL)

Another movie with a decent cast and a stupid, awful script. I though Dan Ackroid was great as Joe Friday.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 08:38 PM (DNH+H)

553 Maybe I should rent "Addams Family."

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:39 PM (7JbXq)

554 530 Species was an awful movie. And the sequel went down hill from there.

The Hidden is a great little movie. The sequel, not so much.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (Qk41M)

To be fair, Anna, cat girls were not exactly the intended audience for Natasha Henstridge as a hot alien lass who gets naked.

The movie had it's good points.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:40 PM (ycWCI)

555 I've never understood the sentiment that they are somehow leftist. The idea that a poorly supervised clandestine agency spawns mischief is not leftist. As near as I can tell, that's a fair characterization of a lot of CIA history.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:28 PM (H5knJ)

Actually, in The Bourne Identity (the movie) the CIA didn't spawn mischief. It was doing its job and one of its killing machines went nuts and got loose. The CIA was doing the right thing trying to hunt it down and kill it. It was, after all, a killing machine with some serious mental issues. But the movie was just all about how evil the CIA was for trying to kill this killing machine let loose in the public. And the movie also tried to make some point that assassinating insane African leaders was wrong, or something, which was beyond silly.

But the Bourne Identity was a great a great movie for the fight scenes. They were pretty new, in film, and just awesome.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:40 PM (8gDQu)

556 The only Bourne movie I liked was the one that fans of the series liked least, I think. I mean the one with Jeremy Renner. That's because it was the only one where I understood and sympathized with the hero's motivation and wanted him to triumph.
Little Boy Damon and his existential angst bored me to tears.

I can't sustain interest in action movies when I don't care who lives or dies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2018 08:40 PM (0jtPF)

557 All of those were comic strips.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:40 PM (UdKB7)

558 Buster Crabbe was the best Tarzan, and a better swimmer.

Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:40 PM (7JbXq)

559 Yes, that was Jason and the Astronauts.
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Sailing the wine-dork sea.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2018 08:41 PM (QCX64)

560 553 Maybe I should rent "Addams Family."
Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:39 PM (7JbXq)

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Raul Julia is fantastic as Gomez.

The first one gets by on charm and wit, methinks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:41 PM (Jj43a)

561 Another TV series that I'm surprised hasn't been made into a shitty movie is "Green Acres".

Did I mention that Green Acres is the best show that's ever been on TV?

Because it is.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 08:41 PM (DNH+H)

562
The Brady Bunch Movie? Yay or nay?

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 08:42 PM (qGuLD)

563 Mmm, the Big Nasty.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:42 PM (ks6bw)

564 The Tarzan comic strips had long stories and elaborate artwork. A lot of those old serial strips did.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:42 PM (UdKB7)

565 Just thought we have a year gone in the Trump Presidency and no movies about Trump ( or a look alike) villain trying to rule the world or something.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (aC6Sd)

566 Another one where the monster lives

The Howling.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (MQeu/)

567 Another movie with a decent cast and a stupid, awful script. I though Dan Ackroid was great as Joe Friday.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 08:38 PM

Wait...don't you mean "The virgin" Connie Swayle?!

*breaks 4th wall, cues music"*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (9dGD7)

568 Tarantino was worried that Hateful Eight would get targeted over its use of the n-word and so bought an indulgence from BLM by agreeing to appear at a NYC rally.

Just days before, two NYPD got assassinated, which put Quentin in a hard spot. He went ahead with it, which inspired a police boycott, which I joined.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (pV/54)

569 560

Raul Julia is fantastic as Gomez.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:41 PM (Jj43a)

I though the entire cast was great. And completely wasted on two stupid scripts.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (DNH+H)

570 565 Just thought we have a year gone in the Trump Presidency and no movies about Trump ( or a look alike) villain trying to rule the world or something.
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (aC6Sd)

Movies take a while to make and they did not think he would win.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (ycWCI)

571 "Raul Julia is fantastic as Gomez."

He was a fantastic actor. Sadly missed. Died way too early.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:44 PM (jm1YL)

572 565 Just thought we have a year gone in the Trump Presidency and no movies about Trump ( or a look alike) villain trying to rule the world or something.
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (aC6Sd)

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It takes about 2 years to go from nothing to movie, especially wide release type movies.

We'll get them soon enough.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:44 PM (Jj43a)

573 Raul Julia's dying of cancer, last role, scenery-chewing, fuck it I'm going out in a blaze of glory turn in the otherwise awful Street Fighter movie must be seen.

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:44 PM (NJm/2)

574 571 "Raul Julia is fantastic as Gomez."

He was a fantastic actor. Sadly missed. Died way too early.
Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:44 PM (jm1YL)

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Killed by Street Fighter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:45 PM (Jj43a)

575 "Raul Julia is fantastic as Gomez."

He was a fantastic actor. Sadly missed. Died way too early.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:44 PM (jm1YL)

I think he was at his best in Presumed Innocent.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:45 PM (8gDQu)

576 553 Maybe I should rent "Addams Family."
Posted by: JAS at January 06, 2018 08:39 PM (7JbXq)

I saw some of it on the TV next to my bed in the emergency room back in October. I didn't get to see the whole thing and it kept getting interrupted by doctors and nurses and such.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM (sdi6R)

577 "The Tarzan comic strips had long stories and elaborate artwork."

The Tarzan movies were the original action movie franchise. Roscommon gal Maureen O'Sullivan nude swimming. Schwinggg!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM (pV/54)

578
Movies take a while to make and they did not think he would win.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (ycWCI)

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Ha. Yeah, I remember ABC (I think) going ahead and airing some victory-lap womynses-are-awesome special that they had obviously worked hard to make and spent a lot of money on, and by God we're going to air it even though it was clearly made with President Mrs. Bill Clinton in mind.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM (ks6bw)

579 That was the biggest problem was I could not buy into Sil being able to shift between Human and Geiger Alien and vice versa so easily. That was just too much hand waving. And it would have been a more visceral movie if she just exploded out of her Human skin plus the guy in the hot tub's reaction.

Another issue with the movie, I could not get "The Girl with the Jade Green Eyes" story out of my mind. Beautiful alien woman with entourage lands on Earth. And she proceeds to wrap around her delicate pinky a virile Human male. And at the end of the story, the reader learns that she is going to consume the man after he uploads his seed in her.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM (Qk41M)

580 "Raul Julia is fantastic as Gomez."

He was a fantastic actor. Sadly missed. Died way too early.
Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:44 PM (jm1YL)

He was a rare gem. He performed well even in the aforementioned "Overdrawn at the Memory Bank"

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:47 PM (bNbo2)

581 Oh joy, something not to look forward to.

Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:48 PM (aC6Sd)

582
Just thought we have a year gone in the Trump Presidency and no movies about Trump ( or a look alike) villain trying to rule the world or something.
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2018 08:43 PM (aC6Sd)

I fully expect Wolff's "Fire and Fury" to made into a movie. Probably this year. The most fun movie for libs since Fahrenheit 9/11.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:48 PM (EzdLW)

583 I may have the Mother of All Bad Sequels. I have seen a Tarzan movie from the late 60s in which, in addition to being King of the Jungle, Tarzan is a James Bond-like action hero. The only scene I remember, and I may not have seen it all, Tarzan arrives in a helicopter and has a shoot out in a bull ring in Mexico City.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 08:48 PM (+y/Ru)

584 Re my question up thread:
I guess no one is old enough to remember that Richard Chamberlain was the first Jason Bourne and Jaclyn Smith the first Marie. Sigh. Too many youngsters here tonight.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 08:49 PM (jm1YL)

585 Ah yes, Street Fighter.

M. Bison to Chun-Li. "The destruction of your village marked your whole life. To me it was Tuesday."

Or something like that, been a very long time since I forced myself to watch that movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:49 PM (Qk41M)

586 "Homeland" had the woman president assuming a future Hillary win last season. Ha, ha!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 06, 2018 08:49 PM (QCX64)

587 The Tarzan comic strips had long stories and elaborate artwork. A lot of those old serial strips did.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:42 PM (UdKB7)

Huh. Must have missed those growing up. Just don't recall them at all. Love the depth of knowledge the Horde has, in all things (emergency medical treatments, dating advice, military arms . . .)

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:50 PM (QLvwG)

588 555 - The CIA was running a plainly illegail assassination program and was lying to Congress about what it was doing. It was brainwashing its own agents. The folks running the assassination killed other agency personnel. Dorsn't seem like a hard call to me that it was way over the line.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:50 PM (H5knJ)

589 Bad TV to bad movies; the Adam West Batman to the early Batman movies. Good movies to good TV; The Nolan Batman to Gotham.

Posted by: CM9000 at January 06, 2018 08:51 PM (PvK0J)

590 The only scene I remember, and I may not have seen it all, Tarzan arrives in a helicopter and has a shoot out in a bull ring in Mexico City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 08:48 PM (+y/Ru)

If Rifftraxx has not done that one, they need to. Right now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:51 PM (bNbo2)

591 That was the biggest problem was I could not buy into Sil being able to shift between Human and Geiger Alien and vice versa so easily. That was just too much hand waving. And it would have been a more visceral movie if she just exploded out of her Human skin plus the guy in the hot tub's reaction.

Another issue with the movie, I could not get "The Girl with the Jade Green Eyes" story out of my mind. Beautiful alien woman with entourage lands on Earth. And she proceeds to wrap around her delicate pinky a virile Human male. And at the end of the story, the reader learns that she is going to consume the man after he uploads his seed in her.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM

After the setup of the plot, with the whole alien contact and extinction level threat and whatnot, I was disappointed when it turned into just a hunt for the date rape girl.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 08:51 PM (qGuLD)

592 Spurred by Trump's obsession, we're working on a sequel, 'Return of the Son of Beneath the Planet of the Apes'

Posted by: Whoreywood at January 06, 2018 08:52 PM (5OO3x)

593 Alien was itself a genre crosser. Sci-Fi / Horror / Suspense.

Aliens is an action movie crossed with a "Boo" Horror movie -- you never knew when something would jump out.

Hitchcock let's the audience see the bomb getting put under the table -- that's suspense.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 08:52 PM (pV/54)

594 Here's the glorious line from Street Fighter

https://youtu.be/sjZ5I8l32CI?t=54s

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 06, 2018 08:52 PM (rnAwa)

595 The only scene I remember, and I may not have seen it all, Tarzan arrives in a helicopter and has a shoot out in a bull ring in Mexico City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 08:48 PM (+y/Ru)
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Were you perhaps doing mescaline at the time?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 08:52 PM (qJtVm)

596 Bad TV to bad movies; the Adam West Batman to the early Batman movies.

*dons Donald Sutherland wig, opens mouth, points, screams*

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:52 PM (QLvwG)

597 "Chico and The Man....Trump's Revenge".

Instant classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 08:53 PM (EoRCO)

598 Slightly OT but I have to brag: A couple of days ago I happened across one of those stupid "X Number of Y" things that was titled "The 20 best TV shows ever according to viewers". I was so proud that I had never seen even ONE of the POS that the idiots that spend all their time watching the Boob Tube (as we old farts used to call it back in the day) like to think is improving their feeble little minds.
...
Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (md3fh)

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I'm the same way, I wouldn't know any of them either.

Whenever ace would break a story about a Lena Dunham or Chelsea Handler, I wondered if he weren't scrounging around after some obscure schlub just because they said something outrageous. I'd never heard of them before. Ignorance of pop culture should be worn as a badge of pride.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:53 PM (O+Wek)

599 Speaking of Batman and Rifftraxx, I saw a bit of an old Batman show, black and white, where he is driving a nondescript 1930s sedan. Weird as hell.

"He needs a flashier car."

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:53 PM (bNbo2)

600 587 The Tarzan comic strips had long stories and elaborate artwork. A lot of those old serial strips did.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:42 PM (UdKB7)

Huh. Must have missed those growing up. Just don't recall them at all. Love the depth of knowledge the Horde has, in all things (emergency medical treatments, dating advice, military arms . . .)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:50 PM (QLvwG)

And.... The Shadow... Great comic strip... great art...

Lousy movie...

Posted by: Don Q. at January 06, 2018 08:54 PM (NgKpN)

601 'Return of the Son of Beneath the Planet of the Apes'
Posted by: Whoreywood at January 06, 2018 08:52 PM (5OO3x)

...Part II

Posted by: Vanya at January 06, 2018 08:54 PM (NJm/2)

602 Alien? Planet of the Vampires.

https://youtu.be/Eu1VOmwuHag

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:55 PM (Qk41M)

603 Billy Zane is...

The Phantom...

Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:55 PM (bNbo2)

604 Battle for the Return of the Son of Beneath the Planet of the Apes

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 06, 2018 08:55 PM (KCxzN)

605 587 The Tarzan comic strips had long stories and elaborate artwork. A lot of those old serial strips did.

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 08:42 PM (UdKB7)

Huh. Must have missed those growing up. Just don't recall them at all. Love the depth of knowledge the Horde has, in all things (emergency medical treatments, dating advice, military arms . . .)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 08:50 PM (QLvwG)
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My dad bought books with collections of the old Tarzan and Prince Valiant strips by Hal Foster and they truly were graphic novels with beautiful art and complex storylines.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 06, 2018 08:55 PM (qJtVm)

606
Raul Julia was great in that movie mst3k riffed.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 06, 2018 08:56 PM (1mtMy)

607 I may have the Mother of All Bad Sequels. I have seen a Tarzan movie from the late 60s in which, in addition to being King of the Jungle, Tarzan is a James Bond-like action hero. The only scene I remember, and I may not have seen it all, Tarzan arrives in a helicopter and has a shoot out in a bull ring in Mexico City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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If Greystoke had shot Andie MacDowell, I wouldn't have been as disturbed about it as I might be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 08:57 PM (5OO3x)

608 Battle for the Return of the Son of Beneath the Planet of the Apes Goes To Paris

Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2018 08:57 PM (9q7Dl)

609 541 Slightly OT but I have to brag: A couple of days ago I happened across one of those stupid "X Number of Y" things that was titled "The 20 best TV shows ever according to viewers". I was so proud that I had never seen even ONE of the POS that the idiots that spend all their time watching the Boob Tube (as we old farts used to call it back in the day) like to think is improving their feeble little minds.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 06, 2018 08:36 PM (md3fh)

If the list doesn't include the original Twilight Zone, it's worthless.

Posted by: rickl at January 06, 2018 08:58 PM (sdi6R)

610 The CIA was running a plainly illegail assassination program

It looked fine to me. After all, that's the CIA's actual job.

It was brainwashing its own agents.

I think it's safe to assume that those agents volunteered for that, or had some inkling about what they were getting into.

The folks running the assassination killed other agency personnel. Dorsn't seem like a hard call to me that it was way over the line.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 08:50 PM (H5knJ)

They were trying to kill assassins in foreign countries. I don't see any problem with that. US law doesn't extend outside of our borders which, again, is the whole point of the CIA and the fact that it operates exclusively outside of our borders.

No. The movie tried to make it out that the loose-cannon killing machine was a puppy who just wanted to tend his garden, so why couldn't he be left alone. That part is just silly.

And the real leftist nature of the story is that it's part of Hollywood's idea that the US doesn't really have any foreign enemies. The only enemies that Hollywood thinks the US has are Americans. That's pretty much the Left's foundation.

As to how this relates to our problems with the twerps in the CIA and FBI, today, is that they are operating ON OUR SOIL against us. That's vastly different than the threat The Bourne Identity is trying to make of them - opposite, even.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 08:58 PM (8gDQu)

611 along with the summer blockbuster, adventure stories and movies as carnival rides, spielberg/lucas brought with them a boys club ethos. over 20 years ago they were criticized for the lack of roles for women in those genres. women were marginalized.

were women marginalized behind the scenes as well? do spielberg/lucas deserve some blame for the pervasive sexual abuse in hollywood?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 06, 2018 08:58 PM (Pg+x7)

612 IMDb gives Trump acting credit in 21 films and TV shows, including Ghosts Can't Do It, The Little Rascals, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, The Drew Carey Show, Home Alone 2: Lost In New York, and Zoolander.

In all but 2 or 3 of them he played himself.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:59 PM (EzdLW)

613 In all but 2 or 3 of them he played himself.

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:59 PM (EzdLW)

Just like Jack Nicholson.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 09:00 PM (8gDQu)

614 My dad bought books with collections of the old Tarzan and Prince Valiant ...
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As a kid, I recall liking the Prince Valiant strip. It was exotic, relative to say, Dick Tracey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:00 PM (5OO3x)

615 Yeah, but The Iliad also doesn't include Paris taking Helen or Agamemnon solidifying his hold over the rest of Greece beforehand.

Posted by: The JamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 08:21 PM (Jj43a)

It seems to me that those were scenes tacked on to provide context for the rest of the film for people who were not familiar with the classical story (kind of like the "previously on Twin Peaks" that we used to see at the start of each episode). I did not see them as extending the scope of the actual film to the full 10 years.

Posted by: HTL at January 06, 2018 09:00 PM (HJhN4)

616 And at the end of the story, the reader learns that she is going to consume the man after he uploads his seed in her.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM (Qk41M)

I think Pepe changed his nic to Monk after that one ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:00 PM (ypSy2)

617 Ignorance of pop culture should be worn as a badge of pride.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 06, 2018 08:53 PM (O+Wek)

Similar note, XM/Sirius turned the system back on trolling for re-subscribers around Thanksgiving. I turned through the entire 150+ stations looking for something worth listening to, and concluded (again) that they'd need to pay me money to be a subscriber.

Posted by: C. Rony at January 06, 2018 09:01 PM (gwPgz)

618 "Sanford and Son.....American Pickers Yo!"

Looking for and buying junk, Fred's way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 09:01 PM (EoRCO)

619 "Battle for the Return of the Son of Beneath the Planet of the Apes"

I've never understood Hollywood's continuing fascination with that Series of movies. I saw the first one and thought "Meh" except, of course, for the half naked Charlton Heston.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:01 PM (jm1YL)

620
And at the end of the story, the reader learns that she is going to consume the man after he uploads his seed in her.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:46 PM (Qk41M)

It's a porn cookbook!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 09:01 PM (IqV8l)

621 530 The Hidden is a great little movie. The sequel, not so much.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 08:32 PM (Qk41M)

Absolutely love The Hidden. But it left no narrative room whatsoever for a sequel.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:02 PM (Vb4BV)

622 And really ... once we upload our seed into her ... aren't we all consumed ? A little bit each day ?

Damn story is a metaphor.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:03 PM (ypSy2)

623 615
It seems to me that those were scenes tacked on to provide context for the rest of the film for people who were not familiar with the classical story (kind of like the "previously on Twin Peaks" that we used to see at the start of each episode). I did not see them as extending the scope of the actual film to the full 10 years.

Posted by: HTL at January 06, 2018 09:00 PM (HJhN4)

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There are several instances of characters in the movie saying "this could take ten years."

Yes, The Iliad takes place over the course of a week at the end of the ten year was. Troy takes place, from beginning to end, over about a week total. Ten years do not take place.

I just find it funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 06, 2018 09:03 PM (Jj43a)

624 610 - Conservatives: people who are up in arms that the government gave 140 million to Iran, but are certain the same government will know who needs killing and exercise that power sensibly, even though the agency that would do it has less oversight than the IRS and FBI, agencies that conservatives don't trust.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 09:03 PM (H5knJ)

625 Does she start consuming him by first looking at paint colors at Home Depot ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (ypSy2)

626 You know, here is a TV show that every time I think of it I wonder if any other member of the Horde remembered it:

Brimstone

About a cop who kills the man (a serial rapist) who raped his wife in cold blood. So he is sent to Hell. Later, a large number of evil souls break free from Hell (don't ask) and Lucifer recruits the cop to track them down and return them to Hell.

Not a bad show. The premise is a bit 'huh?' and acting was hit or miss. However, what is so striking to me is that it got made and green lit in the first place.

It is amazing since it does not just premise a world of absolute right and wrong, but also that there are everlasting consequences to your actions.

Kind of odd for Hollywood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (ycWCI)

627 "As a kid, I recall liking the Prince Valiant strip. It was exotic, relative to say, Dick Tracey."

Now who remembers that Robert Wagner played Prince Valiant in the movie of the same name? I think Janet Lee played Aleta. Could be wrong on that one. It's been a long time since I saw it on TV.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (jm1YL)

628 589 Bad TV to bad movies; the Adam West Batman to the early Batman movies.
Posted by: CM9000 at January 06, 2018 08:51 PM (PvK0J)

The Adam West Batman was great TV. You can say it wasn't great Batman, but it was just super-fun. Also, Julie Newmar.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (Vb4BV)

629 I remember Prince Valiant. Just not Tarzan.

Was Zorro ever a comic?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (QLvwG)

630 top 20 why cant black people have guns?

Liberals do live in their own fucking world don't they? It is and always has been DEMOCRATS who don't want blacks to be armed - see the original Birth of a Nation movie for the Democrats take on armed black men. To come up with their absolute crap about "emboldened white supremacists because of Trump". Every gun range I have ever been to has absolutely welcomed black shooters.

Fuck you Huffington Post you miserable fucking racists.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (Y7pP/)

631 Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 09:03 PM (H5knJ)

Trust No One!

Posted by: C. Rony at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (gwPgz)

632 Stars Wars ran out of gas ~~with~~ during Return of the Jedi.

Fixed this for you.

RotJ was two movies. It was an Errol Flynn pirate-rescue movie patched onto a remake of the last scene of ANH.

Basically Lucas in 1982-3 had enough money to do a proper space battle scene; and not enough money to do a scene on Trantor I mean, on Coruscant.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:05 PM (6FqZa)

633 Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 09:03 PM (H5knJ)

Huh?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 09:05 PM (8gDQu)

634
Patton II: Kickin' The Commies

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 06, 2018 09:05 PM (RwCZB)

635 (btw: sorry for the loss of james madison university, the jamesd madison, to the north dakota state bisons in the ncaa fcs championship game.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 06, 2018 09:05 PM (Pg+x7)

636 Airport: Soap opera drama w/problem on the plane.
Airport 1975: BIG problem on the plane w/wild solution. Sappy bits of the characters (sick girl sticks out in my mind) replace the soap opera.
Airport '77: Used a plane to create another solution bit, sappy soapy a plenty.
The Concorde, Airport '79: Just...just no. Just...no, okay?

Posted by: Captain Comic at January 06, 2018 09:05 PM (wzqy/)

637 I'm going to have to go with Meatballs. Bill Murray/ Ivan Reitman film. Reitman went onto Ghostbusters. Murray had his first lead role in Meatballs. There is a Meatballs 2; Meatballs 3 Summer Job; and a Meatballs 4.

Mostly I think the original Meatballs was fantastic because they showed boob briefly. I was a kid when I saw it. That made the damn flick award worthy.

Posted by: Orson at January 06, 2018 09:06 PM (MDqfa)

638 (... btw, btw...

why in the world is the james madison team calked "the dukes"? james madison must be rolling over in his grave!)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (Pg+x7)

639 "Patton II: Kickin' The Commies"

If only

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (jm1YL)

640 I think what I said was quite plain; prtetend not to understand if you wish.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (H5knJ)

641 Cannonball Run II: Bicycles and Compression Shorts

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (Vb4BV)

642 Green Eyed Space Alien in Horror Flick : Oh Honey - this flooring will show the house so well.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (ypSy2)

643 You can see a lot of those old Tarzan and Prince Valiant comics here:

erbzine.com/comics/

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (UdKB7)

644 I always thought the art work in Prince Valiant was superb, although not quite up to the "Dogs Playing Poker" level of superb!

Posted by: C. Rony at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (gwPgz)

645 @605 Hal Foster did a "comic" strip of "The Fountainhead."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (H5rtT)

646 I can't wait for Splice 2.

Posted by: Barak Hussien Obama, hiding in an Iranian well at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (Qe84+)

647 There is no [Matrix] sequel.
Posted by: Gem

There's The Animatrix and a lot of graphic-novel tie ins. Those were good. The Wachowski brothers... or whatever... should have stuck to issuing those out and just raking in the vig. Like Lucas did with the Expanded Universe.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:08 PM (6FqZa)

648 437
Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Ruins
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (EzdLW)

Fallen. A great movie, little known despite a great cast. Denzel Washington, James Gandolfini, John Goodman and Donald Sutherland.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 06, 2018 09:08 PM (tMFgx)

649
In all but 2 or 3 of them he played himself.
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:59 PM (EzdLW)

Just like Jack Nicholson.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 09:00 PM (8gDQu)

Here's Donny!

Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 09:08 PM (EzdLW)

650 Julie Newmar?

Nyah!!!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:08 PM (Qk41M)

651 There is a Meatballs 2; Meatballs 3 Summer Job; and a Meatballs 4.

Seriously? *looks it up*

Oh for fuck's sake, there is. WHY, O LORD, DID YOU LET THIS HAPPEN.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:09 PM (6FqZa)

652 Green Eyed Space Alien in Horror Flick : Scogg - you big stud - you're so handy. Have you ever taken a look at Pergo ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:09 PM (ypSy2)

653 The Adam West Batman was great TV. You can say it wasn't great Batman, but it was just super-fun. Also, Julie Newmar.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM

60's Batman WAS great Batman. People forget that was a style of Batman in the original comics before the "grim and gritty" thing from the 70's onwards. I've got some old Batman comics and the Adam West tv show nails it.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 09:10 PM (qGuLD)

654 I liked Spirit Trap, with Billie Piper, and usually don't care for that sort of film.

Posted by: Texican ette at January 06, 2018 09:10 PM (tFnCj)

655 Porky's was a singular masterpiece.

I said it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 06, 2018 09:11 PM (zgj/N)

656 You can see a lot of those old Tarzan and Prince Valiant comics here:

erbzine.com/comics/

Posted by: freaked at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (UdKB7)

Thanks!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 09:11 PM (QLvwG)

657 Not a sequel, a reboot.

Battlestar Galactica 2002. Easily the best show or movie I've ever seen.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:11 PM (kUotE)

658 617 Similar note, XM/Sirius turned the system back on trolling for re-subscribers around Thanksgiving. I turned through the entire 150+ stations looking for something worth listening to, and concluded (again) that they'd need to pay me money to be a subscriber.

Posted by: C. Rony at January 06, 2018 09:01 PM (gwPgz)

Same here. I'm glad they do that a couple of times a year, so I can remind myself that it's not worth subscribing to.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:11 PM (DNH+H)

659 I think what I said was quite plain; prtetend not to understand if you wish.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls
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Well, since conservatives are conventionally skeptical re government, and overreach, and always questioning the competence of same, I'm having some difficulty understanding your assertion. Is there a specific basis for it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:12 PM (c/EDo)

660 "60's Batman WAS great Batman. People forget that was a style of Batman in the original comics before the "grim and gritty" thing from the 70's onwards. I've got some old Batman comics and the Adam West tv show nails it."

60's TV was just fun in general.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:12 PM (jm1YL)

661 So.
Zombie says a big contender for awards this year is a pornographic, gay, adult-teen romance.
Hmmmm.
Will Kevin Spacey be invited to hand out the prizes?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2018 09:12 PM (0jtPF)

662 >>>607 I may have the Mother of All Bad Sequels. I have seen a Tarzan movie from the late 60s in which, in addition to being King of the Jungle, Tarzan is a James Bond-like action hero. The only scene I remember, and I may not have seen it all, Tarzan arrives in a helicopter and has a shoot out in a bull ring in Mexico City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

are you pulling our leg?...or is this an actual tarzan movie?
(if it is, i am intrigued)

Posted by: concrete girl at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (nBzBk)

663 The BSG reboot was better than the original, which was too 1970s for me. Parts of it, like when Starbuck is trying to get it on with three identical triplets, might be too 1970s for Disco Stu.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (6FqZa)

664
You know, here is a TV show that every time I think of it I wonder if any other member of the Horde remembered it:

Brimstone

About a cop who kills the man (a serial rapist) who raped his wife in cold blood. So he is sent to Hell. Later, a large number of evil souls break free from Hell (don't ask) and Lucifer recruits the cop to track them down and return them to Hell.

Not a bad show. The premise is a bit 'huh?' and acting was hit or miss. However, what is so striking to me is that it got made and green lit in the first place.

It is amazing since it does not just premise a world of absolute right and wrong, but also that there are everlasting consequences to your actions.

Kind of odd for Hollywood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:04 PM (ycWCI)

John Glover made a delightfully snarky, yet still evil Satan.

But what I remember most about Brimstone is that I'd come up with an idea for a story about a demon who Satan sends up from Hell to track down and bring back another demon who'd overstayed a mission on Earth. I had a whole backstory, and a darkly comic alternate mythology outlined. Then I heard about this new TV series......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (eXA4G)

665 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Southside With You

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (jn7FC)

666 650 Julie Newmar?
Nyah!!!!!!
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:08 PM (Qk41M)

A disproportionate number of young men from a generation I know nothing about, being 29 and all, report that it was Julie Newmar in the leather cat suit who made them realize that a woman could give them a special feeling IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (Vb4BV)

667 Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at January 06, 2018 09:07 PM (H5knJ)

Oh, I understood. I just didn't think that you really wanted to go with the "you can never trust anyone in government to do anything" was a great line of argument for you. I mean, there's really nowhere to go with that argument.

And, besides, I had already explained the specific differences between things done on our territory and things done where US law doesn't exist.

Yes, Barky and his junta of America-haters were and remain a problem in government and the agencies. So what? That's a problem unto itself.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (8gDQu)

668 Green Eyed Space Alien in Horror Flick : Scogg - you problem solver you - you're so smart. In College - did they teach you about those walls you can't remove ?

Is this one of those ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:14 PM (ypSy2)

669
There's The Animatrix

Animaniacs in the matrix

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 09:14 PM (IqV8l)

670 Speaking of sequels, I just saw this morning that there's a sequel to Goon. It's on Netflix. I liked the first one, so I'll have to check it out.

The description does make it sound like the Deathwish sequels, though, in that it treads pretty much the same ground as the original. So, there's a definite chance of it being pretty terrible.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 06, 2018 09:14 PM (wSC8T)

671 Morgan Spurlock's sequel to Supersize Me will be all about vodka.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:15 PM (Vb4BV)

672 Yeah, Brimstone was another of those tv shows that was just getting good when Fox canceled it. Like Strange Luck.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:15 PM (WbIyz)

673
Zombie says a big contender for awards this year is a pornographic, gay, adult-teen romance.
Hmmmm.
Will Kevin Spacey be invited to hand out the prizes?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille

He will BE one of the prizes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 09:16 PM (IqV8l)

674 "Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Southside With You''

And this evenings winning comment is #665!

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:16 PM (jm1YL)

675 Yes, Barky and his junta of America-haters were and remain a problem in government and the agencies. So what? That's a problem unto itself.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (8gDQu)

Well ... Barky was a dumb-ass.

If Barky would have parleyed that shit about "A Civilian Force Just As Strong As The Military" into a Home Decor Force ?

Well ... lets just say my allegiance to the Status Quo might be a bit different.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:16 PM (ypSy2)

676 For those who have never read The Girl with the Jade Green Eyes, here are GoodRead reviews of it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8h9wgxl

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:16 PM (Qk41M)

677 It was like watching Conan the Barbarian (which I love for no good reason) but with ferrets.

No, you love Conan the Barbarian because that movie was fucking awesome. Despite not being a proper Conan movie.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:17 PM (6FqZa)

678 655 Porky's was a singular masterpiece.

I said it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 06, 2018 09:11 PM (zgj/N)

A masterpiece, maybe, but not singular. Don't forget "Porky's II: The Next Day".

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:17 PM (DNH+H)

679 648 437
Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Ruins
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (EzdLW)

__________________________________

I think John Carpenter's The Thing would qualify on that premise. Essentially the two remaining characters are just waiting to die at the end...and one may or may not be the antagonist of the film. And, also, that film would qualify for the topic of the thread. There is another film called The Thing that came out a few years after the original which was a prequel...and royally bombed.

Posted by: Orson at January 06, 2018 09:18 PM (MDqfa)

680 The Achilles/Hector fight in Troy is a great action scene.

Posted by: davidt at January 06, 2018 09:18 PM (FdNEK)

681 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Ruins
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM (EzdLW)

Fallen. A great movie, little known despite a great cast. Denzel Washington, James Gandolfini, John Goodman and Donald Sutherland.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 06, 2018 09:08 PM (tMFgx)

If Fallen fits that genre then so would Skeleton Key or Angel Heart.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:19 PM (WbIyz)

682 OT/ ace's twitter feed.

-Cupcakes oppress women or something. Which just makes me want a cupcake.

-And this Vox gem about forcing the Prez to take an exam bcz he's crazy (paraphrase). They are truly working actively on the 25th amendment thing now. Coup is underway, IMO.

https://tinyurl.com/ybpqbad7

Posted by: Professor Chaos 2018 aka gorilla gumdrop at January 06, 2018 09:19 PM (25nrF)

683 Speaking of sequels, I just saw this morning that there's a sequel to Goon. It's on Netflix. I liked the first one, so I'll have to check it out.

The description does make it sound like the Deathwish sequels, though, in that it treads pretty much the same ground as the original. So, there's a definite chance of it being pretty terrible.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler

It's worth a watch. At least they brought back most of the old characters to give it cred, which helped.

Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 09:19 PM (+Tibp)

684 "Julie Newmar in the leather cat suit"

Diana Rigg in The Avengers

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 09:19 PM (pV/54)

685 It appears that the Tarzan movie I referenced is Tarzan and the Great River (1967). A reviewer says:

Proof that the "Tarzan" character works best in an African setting, circa 1890s to 1930s, can be found in this mildly enjoyable but undeniably juvenile movie. It tries to "update" and "re-imagine" Tarzan by sending him on a jetliner to Brazil where he arrives wearing a suit and tie. This immediately raises questions. Where does he buy his suits? How does he pay for them? Does he have on a loincloth underneath or does he prefer Jockey-brand briefs?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (+y/Ru)

686 680 The Achilles/Hector fight in Troy is a great action scene.
Posted by: davidt at January 06, 2018 09:18 PM (FdNEK)

So is the car chase in the first Matrix sequel, but just try to get anyone to watch it.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (Vb4BV)

687
672 Yeah, Brimstone was another of those tv shows that was just getting good when Fox canceled it. Like Strange Luck.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:15 PM (WbIyz)

Or the perennial Horde favorite, Firefly.

On the other hand, with what we know now about that fucktard commie cocksucker Whedon, I'm pretty sure that the second season would have turned SJW and "The Alliance equals Booooooooosh!"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (eXA4G)

688 into a Home Decor Force ?

Is the topic Typos That Are Better Than The Original? Ecause I think you've got a winner.

Posted by: t-bird at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (clYld)

689
'The Thing'

1951
1982
2011

I'm so confused!

Posted by: James Arness at January 06, 2018 09:21 PM (9tO1t)

690 The first Blade movie was pretty good. The second was ok.

But oh my goodness, that last one. Wow. I wish someone would have paid Snipes' taxes just to call that thing off.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 06, 2018 09:21 PM (zgj/N)

691 687 Or the perennial Horde favorite, Firefly.

On the other hand, with what we know now about that fucktard commie cocksucker Whedon, I'm pretty sure that the second season would have turned SJW and "The Alliance equals Booooooooosh!"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (eXA4G)

He wasn't doing that yet. I think a second season would have been great. But the chances that he would not have killed off a major character are near zero.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (Vb4BV)

692 So is the car chase in the first Matrix sequel, but just try to get anyone to watch it.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (Vb4BV)

Ronin for car chases. Plus, just a great movie.

I like Jean Reno in most of the movies I have seen him in. He has just been in a lot of horrible movies along with the few good ones.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (ycWCI)

693 "Skyjacked" was a good film.

1972 I think.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (EoRCO)

694 *cues action theme music*

Narrator, "when your house remodel has gone awry, there is only one group to call to save you. Homer Decor Force! In stunning 3D! Summer 2018."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (Qk41M)

695 "Diana Rigg in The Avengers''

She was quite lovely wasn't she?

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (jm1YL)

696 There is another film called The Thing that came out a few years after the original which was a prequel...and royally bombed.
Posted by: Orson

I didn't hate it. And it had the delicious Mary Elizabeth Winstead (Le Rawr Rawr)

Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (+Tibp)

697 Didn't know Russia is banned from the Winter Olympics.

Their clean athletes still get to compete though

Posted by: jsg at January 06, 2018 09:23 PM (DhcsO)

698 I'm pretty sure that the second season would have turned SJW and "The Alliance equals Booooooooosh!"

The Alliance kind of was the neocon movement though. Whedon and Minear were already there, attacking the Bush Doctrine, from the libertarian Right.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:23 PM (6FqZa)

699 I think John Carpenter's The Thing would qualify on that premise.

Damn It ... nobody listens to me.

John Carpenter's "The Fog".

The ghost-sailors in The Fog not only exact their revenge on the town, and retreat back into the mist ... but they're justified.

It's one of a damn few horror stories where the people really do get what's coming to them. The "horrors" are right.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:23 PM (ypSy2)

700 Say, was there ever a sequel to "The Towering Inferno?" That movie was an incredibly huge deal at the time, and no one ever talks about it any more.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:23 PM (Vb4BV)

701 A disproportionate number of young men from a generation I know nothing about, being 29 and all, report that it was Julie Newmar in the leather cat suit who made them realize that a woman could give them a special feeling IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (Vb4BV)

For me it was Erin Gray as Colonel Deering in Buck Rogers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (ycWCI)

702 How does he pay for them? Does he have on a loincloth underneath or does he prefer Jockey-brand briefs?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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He's an English lord, for heaven's sake. He has them tailored.

Posted by: James Arness at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (9tO1t)

703 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Ruins
Posted by: Hands at January 06, 2018 08:04 PM

Not a monster movie, but Arlington Road.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (9dGD7)

704 I try to love Death Wish. I love most of Bronson's work. The Mechanic is my favorite from him. But it's impossible for me to take the big rape/assault scene seriously when the lead thug is played by... Jeff Goldblum.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (toi7g)

705 They are truly working actively on the 25th amendment thing now.

Doing good things for the country? Obviously unfit for office.

Posted by: t-bird at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (clYld)

706 John Carpenter's "The Fog".

The ghost-sailors in The Fog not only exact their revenge on the town, and retreat back into the mist ... but they're justified.

It's one of a damn few horror stories where the people really do get what's coming to them. The "horrors" are right.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:23 PM (ypSy2)

High Plains Drifter?

Posted by: davidt at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (FdNEK)

707 The main reason the Death Wish sequel sucked was that Golan Globus took it over and while they had lots of enthusiasm and energy, they made terrible movies for the most part. So they made a lousy Death Wish.

The original film was actually really thoughtful and Bronson for once played a regular man who was sickened by what he did. But once he got over it, he lost something of his inner nature.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (39g3+)

708 John Wick 2 was a huge huge disappointment for me.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (2DOZq)

709 589 Bad TV to bad movies; the Adam West Batman to the early Batman movies. Good movies to good TV; The Nolan Batman to Gotham.
Posted by: CM9000 at January 06, 2018 08:51 PM (PvK0J)

If anything, I think "Gotham" is set in Tim Burton's Batman universe. It has the same dark, weird vibe as his 2 entries.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (ANIFC)

710 685 It appears that the Tarzan movie I referenced is Tarzan and the Great River (1967).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:20 PM (+y/Ru)

According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know), the chimp portraying Cheeta in this movie bit Tarzan and was put down. Damn dirty ape.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (DNH+H)

711 Say, was there ever a sequel to "The Towering Inferno?" That movie was an incredibly huge deal at the time, and no one ever talks about it any more.
Posted by: Splunge
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'The Smoldering Ashes' - never released.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (9tO1t)

712 From the doc interview:

I’d also like to emphasize that we are not diagnosing him — we keep with the Goldwater Rule. We are mainly concerned that an emergency evaluation be done."

By force...you will see later. She sure is splitting hairs on the Goldwater rule. When you read the article, she definitely implies he's nuts, with examples, just not a specific diagnosis.

Posted by: Professor Chaos 2018 aka gorilla gumdrop at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (25nrF)

713 But the chances that he would not have killed off a major character are near zero.

Shepherd Book was telegraphed early on as the Obi Wan Kenobi of the series. I wasn't surprised at all when he bit it in the BGM. Wash, on the other hand . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (6FqZa)

714 704 I try to love Death Wish. I love most of Bronson's work. The Mechanic is my favorite from him. But it's impossible for me to take the big rape/assault scene seriously when the lead thug is played by... Jeff Goldblum.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (toi7g)

What's the problem? He probably studied thuggery really thoroughly before he attacked.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (Vb4BV)

715 According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know), the chimp portraying Cheeta in this movie bit Tarzan and was put down. Damn dirty ape.

Posted by: Iowa Bob
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Got to keep his face, lucky bastard.

Posted by: Cheeta at January 06, 2018 09:26 PM (9tO1t)

716 Unbelievably, there is a sequel to The Posiden Adventure.

Mercifully I am spared any knowledge of Beyond the Posiden Adventure.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:26 PM (WbIyz)

717 Another remake that beat the pants off the original, imo, was The Quick and the Dead with Gene Hackman, Sharon Stone, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Russell Crowe.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:26 PM (kUotE)

718 But the chances that he would not have killed off a major character are near zero.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:22 PM (Vb4BV)

I am like a leaf on the wind.

Posted by: Wash at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (QLvwG)

719 If anything, I think "Gotham" is set in Tim Burton's Batman universe. It has the same dark, weird vibe as his 2 entries.

They're more aiming for the vibe of the first one, with a bit of The Dark Knight.

Personally, I'm a fan, although it could do with some tighter editing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (6FqZa)

720 thnx Anonosaurus Wrecks

Posted by: concrete girl at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (nBzBk)

721 ''704 I try to love Death Wish. I love most of Bronson's work. The Mechanic is my favorite from him. But it's impossible for me to take the big rape/assault scene seriously when the lead thug is played by... Jeff Goldblum.''

Yes, but he wasn't ''Jeff Goldblum" then. Know what I mean?

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (jm1YL)

722 Earthquake 2: Aftershock! was a real disappointment. Just didn't have those really low bass notes.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (Vb4BV)

723
Shepherd Book was telegraphed early on as the Obi Wan Kenobi of the series. I wasn't surprised at all when he bit it in the BGM. Wash, on the other hand . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (6FqZa)

If you listen to the commentary for Serenity, Whedon says he felt he had to kill off a major character to try to sell the idea that this was going to be a Wild Bunch kind of ending.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (ycWCI)

724 I think absolutely the most disappointing and cosmically dumb ass movie sequel I have ever seen was the followup to Chinatown.

Look, I don't like Roman Polanski any more that any one else here - but to give the Devil his due - The original Chinatown was an epic piece of film making. The video chords in that movie ought to be required study for anyone interested in how to make films work.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (Y7pP/)

725 They should have made a sequel to Dredd and Galaxy Quest.

That's why they didn't.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (2DOZq)

726 But it's impossible for me to take the big rape/assault scene seriously when the lead thug is played by... Jeff Goldblum.

There was a time for a while that Hollywood had a really tough time casting really menacing, awful bad guys. It was like they were afraid of scaring the audience so they cast these lame looking douchebags as gang members or just ordinary guys as mobsters and it didn't work. Put Paul Sorvino or Danny Trejo in there, put guys that seem authentic and genuinely menacing. But no, they went with guys like Jeff Goldblum.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:28 PM (39g3+)

727 watching "the wonderful, horrible life of leni riefenstahl" as I type this; most of the way through it. absolutely fascinating.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 06, 2018 09:28 PM (2//jc)

728 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Toxic Avenger.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (QLvwG)

729 Storm of the Century ...

... Stephen King screenplay. I love this one.

Lenoge' not only lives - he takes one of their kids and raises him to be a 49ers fan.

Debrah Farentino continued her long-standing role as The Chic That Knows Better But Fucks Everything Up In The End ... as seen in Earth 2 and Pepe's First Marriage.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (ypSy2)

730 713 Shepherd Book was telegraphed early on as the Obi Wan Kenobi of the series. I wasn't surprised at all when he bit it in the BGM. Wash, on the other hand . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:25 PM (6FqZa)

Yeah. I love the series, and like the movie (excellent resolution of both the Reavers and the crazy chick stories), but that just felt gratuitous.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (Vb4BV)

731
Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

The Descent.

Which is a really creepy, awesome horror/adventure film.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (eXA4G)

732 725 They should have made a sequel to Dredd and Galaxy Quest.

That's why they didn't.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:27 PM (2DOZq)

Agreed on Dredd (and this could still happen.)

Galaxy Quest? You know, I think that is one of those movies that is perfect on it's own.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (ycWCI)

733 Dredd flopped at the box office (as did Serenity) and that is why sequels didn't happen.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (6FqZa)

734 Some of the Tremors sequels are not without interest.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (WbIyz)

735 Wonderful? Nein nein nein. Teufel

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (Qk41M)

736 There is even a prequel, I believe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (WbIyz)

737 was there ever a sequel to "The Towering Inferno?"

-
The Smouldering Wreckage?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (+y/Ru)

738 Debrah Farentino continued her long-standing role as The Chic That Knows Better But Fucks Everything Up In The End ... as seen in Earth 2 and Pepe's First Marriage.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (ypSy2)

But, damn, she was a pretty lady. Something about her got the old juices flowing for me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (ycWCI)

739 Escape from L.A.

or

Escape from N.Y.

Discuss.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (kUotE)

740 where the monster wins and lives? "

Well, there was this second term...

Oh, what?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 06, 2018 09:31 PM (7LY+6)

741 Chinatown is a masterpiece, but I'm not sure that has a lot to do with Polanski. There was a ton of talent working on that film, combining to make something great.

The man can do his job really well, no question. But Chinatown was something that transcended everyone involved.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:31 PM (39g3+)

742 "Jeopardy:The Movie" was okay, I guess.
I can't stand Meryl Streep but admit she did a very credible imitation of Trebek.
And Brian Dennehy should have won the Oscar for his portrayal of the board.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2018 09:31 PM (0jtPF)

743 739 Escape from L.A.

or

Escape from N.Y.

Discuss.
Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (kUotE)

Kurt Russell is awesome?

Soldier. Love the movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:31 PM (ycWCI)

744
They are truly working actively on the 25th amendment thing now.

Doing good things for the country? Obviously unfit for office.

Movie tie in:
Remake of Seven Days In May

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (IqV8l)

745 599 Speaking of Batman and Rifftraxx, I saw a bit of an old Batman show, black and white, where he is driving a nondescript 1930s sedan. Weird as hell.

"He needs a flashier car."
Posted by: Pug Mahon in the Upside Down at January 06, 2018 08:53 PM (bNbo2)

I love that series! The Batmobile is a 40s Mercury coupe, Stately Wayne Manor is just a rancher, and Gotham City is in the outskirts of the California desert. Great riffs.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (ANIFC)

746 There was a time for a while that Hollywood had a really tough time casting really menacing, awful bad guys. It was like they were afraid of scaring the audience so they cast these lame looking douchebags as gang members..
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Bill Murray in 'Mad Dog and Glory'

Posted by: Cheeta at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (nBBdT)

747 Taboo and Taboo 3 were the best, Taboo 2 was tolerable, but the rest of the series was "meh", in large part, IMHO, because Kay Parker wasn't in them...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (YR6XW)

748 Galaxy Quest? You know, I think that is one of those movies that is perfect on it's own.

Perfect on its own means perfect for a sequel!

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (clYld)

749 739 That's SOLDNER.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (kUotE)

750 Soldier. Love the movie.

I do too, but the rest of my family thinks it's stupid.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (WbIyz)

751 Creepy frickin movie, that was.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:33 PM (kUotE)

752 Galaxy Quest.

That was a good movie.

Alan Rickman is gone now too. i would have loved to see him play that role again...even if the movie sucked, I know he'd be good.

Tim Allen is not a leftie though, so in current climate doubt any sequel will be made.

Posted by: Professor Chaos 2018 aka gorilla gumdrop at January 06, 2018 09:33 PM (25nrF)

753 742 "Jeopardy:The Movie" was okay, I guess.
I can't stand Meryl Streep but admit she did a very credible imitation of Trebek.
And Brian Dennehy should have won the Oscar for his portrayal of the board.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2018 09:31 PM (0jtPF)

I don't know, Crispin Glover as "autistic trivia nerd #3" just kind of grated on me. I don't think he was giving his best.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:33 PM (Vb4BV)

754 Taboo and Taboo 3 were the best, Taboo 2 was tolerable, but the rest of the series was "meh", in large part, IMHO, because Kay Parker wasn't in them...

The franchise was saved by Taboo American Style.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:33 PM (WbIyz)

755 700 Say, was there ever a sequel to "The Towering Inferno?" That movie was an incredibly huge deal at the time, and no one ever talks about it any more.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:23 PM (Vb4BV)

Dunno, but I was just thinking about that one. It and I guess the Airport movies were the first of the disaster movie genre I loved so much. It had a big all star cast, and my little friends and I thought it was very suspenseful seeing it in the theater. I remember we were very worried about the cat (or was it a dog?) and whether it would survive. You're right, I never see it mentioned anywhere.

Posted by: stace at January 06, 2018 09:33 PM (6HFDU)

756 Escape from N.Y.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (kUotE)

Kurt Russell is awesome.

I think Russell says that was his favorite role.

Posted by: Professor Chaos 2018 aka gorilla gumdrop at January 06, 2018 09:34 PM (25nrF)

757 733 Dredd flopped at the box office (as did Serenity) and that is why sequels didn't happen.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 09:29 PM (6FqZa)

But even dumb Hollywood saw that both became Post theater hits. Galaxy Quest was also a relative flop.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:34 PM (2DOZq)

758 Taboo and Taboo 3 were the best, Taboo 2 was tolerable, but the rest of the series was "meh", in large part, IMHO, because Kay Parker wasn't in them...

Little Known Fact ... Honey Wilder was originally cast in the role of Teacher That Young ScoggDog Really Wanted for Pretty Much Any Class.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:34 PM (ypSy2)

759 I saw a bit of an old Batman show, black and white, where he is driving a nondescript 1930s sedan. Weird as hell.

The batmobile wasn't a thing for a while, and even when it first came out it was just a red car with a bat on the radiator cap.

http://www.wordaroundthe.net/2006/08/which-batmobile-is-your-favorite.html

Bill Murray in 'Mad Dog and Glory'

He was actually really good in that role, though. He didn't need menace until he did, and he pulled that off well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:34 PM (39g3+)

760 726

There were no shortage of wonderfully talented character actors back in the golden age of Hollywood who had faces that just shouted "I'm a bad guy".

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:35 PM (jm1YL)

761 740 where the monster wins and lives? "

Well, there was this second term...

I'm right here, you know...

Posted by: Michelle at Kalorama Resorts at January 06, 2018 09:35 PM (clYld)

762 2001: A Space Odyssey - Yes

2010: The Year We Make Contact - No.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:35 PM (Qk41M)

763 701 A disproportionate number of young men from a generation I know nothing about, being 29 and all, report that it was Julie Newmar in the leather cat suit who made them realize that a woman could give them a special feeling IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:13 PM (Vb4BV)

For me it was Erin Gray as Colonel Deering in Buck Rogers.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:24 PM (ycWCI)

Caroline Murno in that Sinbad movie. But Erin Grey was the first woman I fell for. I want it put on my tombstone that I got to meet her.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 09:36 PM (ANIFC)

764 673---He will BE one of the prizes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 09:16 PM (IqV8l)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2018 09:36 PM (0jtPF)

765 750 Soldier. Love the movie.

I do too, but the rest of my family thinks it's stupid.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (WbIyz)

Put me as one that loved it. Of course I liked all of the Riddick movies too so I may not be a good gauge.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

766 What really, really sucked about Bourne II and III... Fucking Shakey Cam.

Posted by: davidt at January 06, 2018 09:37 PM (FdNEK)

767 "was there ever a sequel to "The Towering Inferno?"

It was itself a sequel to The Poseidon Adventure.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 09:37 PM (pV/54)

768 Snake Pliskin was the antithesis of previous Kurt Russel roles such as The Computer Wore Sneakers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:37 PM (Qk41M)

769
727 watching "the wonderful, horrible life of leni riefenstahl" as I type this; most of the way through it. absolutely fascinating.
Posted by: Anachronda at January 06, 2018 09:28 PM (2//jc)

I read her memoirs a long time back. A really interesting life, and a truly world-class talent for film and visual arts.

It's also full of furious tapdancing around the issue of was she/wasn't she a Nazi. The amount of effort she put into the book to distance herself from fascism despite the obvious favor she enjoyed from Hitler is pretty much a tell.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 06, 2018 09:37 PM (eXA4G)

770 Robert Towne's screenplay for Chinatown.

Best original ever?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (pV/54)

771

SCTV: Towering Inferno

https://youtu.be/dyfDEQJIgRY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (IqV8l)

772 Does anybody know any monster movies like Jaws or 28 days later or vampires where the monster wins and lives?

Vampire in Let the Right One In

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (Y7pP/)

773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

774 In 2010, actually went to a con that had Erin Grey and Gil Gerard attending. Both were nice to talk to.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (Qk41M)

775 765 750 Soldier. Love the movie.

I do too, but the rest of my family thinks it's stupid.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (WbIyz)

Put me as one that loved it. Of course I liked all of the Riddick movies too so I may not be a good gauge.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

"We'll fight!"
"Soldiers deserve other soldiers, ma'am."
"What are you going to do?!"
"I'm going to kill them all, ma'am."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (ycWCI)

776 Taboo and Taboo 3 were the best, Taboo 2 was
tolerable, but the rest of the series was "meh", in large part, IMHO,
because Kay Parker wasn't in them...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 06, 2018 09:32 PM (YR6XW)

Same sort of falloff with Talk Dirty To Me. Yet they made 15 of them!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (QLvwG)

777 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

That would wake you right up.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:39 PM (Vb4BV)

778 I think Hollywood could make sequels of some of their romantic comedies. I think their is a sufficient fan base that would like to see what really happens after happily ever after.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (2DOZq)

779 I don't know, Crispin Glover as "autistic trivia nerd #3" just kind of grated on me. I don't think he was giving his best.
Posted by: Splunge
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He was spectacular, compared to Danny DeVito, who played the letter 'a' in 'Wheel of Fortune, the Movie'

It was awful.

Posted by: Cheeta at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (5OO3x)

780 Snake Pliskin was the antithesis of previous Kurt Russel roles such as The Computer Wore Sneakers.

-
Call me Snake.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (+y/Ru)

781 778
I think Hollywood could make sequels of some of their romantic comedies.
I think their is a sufficient fan base that would like to see what
really happens after happily ever after.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (2DOZq)

When Sally Divorced Harry.

Posted by: davidt at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (FdNEK)

782 Is there an Espresso version of that pooper chute shooter?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:41 PM (Qk41M)

783 I think their is a sufficient fan base that would like to see what really happens after happily ever after.

My mom has always said that the romance begins at marriage, and that's where almost all romances cut off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:41 PM (39g3+)

784 SCTV: Towering Inferno

https://youtu.be/dyfDEQJIgRY
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Andrea Martin, Eugene Levy, John Candy, Joe Flahrety.

What's not to like?

Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 09:41 PM (+Tibp)

785 But, damn, she was a pretty lady. Something about her got the old juices flowing for me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:30 PM (ycWCI)

OK ... so this next paragraph really is true.

Debrah Farentino ... in Earth 2 ... was the first time I noticed that my really new wife would defend The Sisterhood.

We're watching that show ... because, at that point, we can't afford to do much else ... and I can't help it. Farentino sucks in just about every decision she makes on that colony. I make a couple comments.

The wife gets really, really pissy.

A teachable moment, as they say.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:41 PM (ypSy2)

786 ''Alan Rickman is gone now too. i would have loved to see him play that role again...even if the movie sucked, I know he'd be good. ''

Always wanted a sequel where the aliens pop up again just as his character is getting ready to perform in his long awaited return to the Shakespeare as King Lear or Richard III or some other meaty role.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:42 PM (jm1YL)

787 Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (Y7pP/)

Good catch. I liked the American version best. People always say they like the foreign originals. Not me. America fuck yeah!

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:42 PM (2DOZq)

788 Robert Towne's screenplay for Chinatown.

Best original ever?

-
The score is very good, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:42 PM (+y/Ru)

789 Kramer vs. Kramer vs. Godzilla: starring Michael Richards as Kramer - a little something for everyone

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 09:42 PM (ANIFC)

790 778 I think Hollywood could make sequels of some of their romantic comedies. I think their is a sufficient fan base that would like to see what really happens after happily ever after.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (2DOZq)

Cuckoldry, divorce and financial ruin really aren't romantic. Or comedic.

Posted by: Insomniac - Meet the New Year, same as the old year at January 06, 2018 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

791 OT: Donovan McNabb, Eric Davis out at ESPN after sexual misconduct investigation

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 09:43 PM (oVJmc)

792 We are mainly concerned that an emergency evaluation be done.

....because we've decided he's a loon

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 06, 2018 09:43 PM (vChNs)

793 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Next up - The caffeine suppository.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:43 PM (5OO3x)

794 Roc, like Romancing the Stone became War of the Roses?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:43 PM (Qk41M)

795 777 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper.

Isn't that how the Mayans used to enjoy it? God knows why the idea would ever occur to anyone, or to tell anyone.

I look forward to the lawsuits against McDonalds coffee again. "You burned yourself where?"

Posted by: t-bird at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (clYld)

796 A teachable moment, as they say.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:41 PM (ypSy2)

I never said my taste in women was good. Plus Clancey Brown is always fun. Damn good voice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (ycWCI)

797 Word was that you couldn't be one of the Ray Charles Raylette's unless you Let Ray.

I'd give good odds that Gwyneth and ScarJo were charter members of the Harvey-ettes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (pV/54)

798 793 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Next up - The caffeine suppository.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:43 PM (5OO3x)

It's been done.

Posted by: Zombie Steve McQueen at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (ANIFC)

799 Anyone see a movie called 'Moon' from 2009?

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (kUotE)

800

Javier the Cabana Boy could do the commercials for GP's Cafe Cubano Poop Shooter...

"Ladies, do you like it high, hot, and a hell of a lot?"

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (T/KY7)

801 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

Where she get that cray-cray idea?

Posted by: Civet Kitteh at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (Cybcm)

802 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

"Honey, I brought you breakfast in bed. Turn over."

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (Vb4BV)

803 2001 on TCM right now.

The great Hal tries to murder everyone sequence on right now.

Great filmmaking. Very quiet yet supremely chilling and creepy.

Coming up Dave thru airlock set piece.

Posted by: Naturalfake at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (9q7Dl)

804 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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Next up - The caffeine suppository.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:43 PM (5OO3x)

It's been done.

Posted by: Zombie Steve McQueen at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (ANIFC)

Just shotgun it.

Posted by: Thorton Mellon at January 06, 2018 09:45 PM (QLvwG)

805 716 Mercifully I am spared any knowledge of Beyond the Posiden Adventure.

Caine and Fields and Slim Pickens. The thing that struck me the most was lighting. In the first, it was emergency lighting and small utility lights with the occasional fire. Very moody and very effective.

The sequel had slightly dimmed stage lighting. Frequently with no reasonable source. Kinda like the trope of a single candle or lantern lighting up a very large space.

The author of the novel, Paul Gallico, wrote a sequel, which is different than the movie.

Posted by: Captain Comic at January 06, 2018 09:45 PM (wzqy/)

806 I just.. you know... I uh... I'd LIKE to rape you... you know.. it's just uh... I need to get a little more comfortable here first and uh... hey, could someone turn the air up a little? Oh, uh, before I get to, you know, raping you, do you... do you have any light beer in the fridge? It kinda has to be light beer...

Posted by: Jeff Goldblum's big Death Wish scene at January 06, 2018 09:45 PM (toi7g)

807 HAL, "Dave I think you should take a pill. Then we can talk about it."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:45 PM (Qk41M)

808 You can enjoy that coffee enema while drinking unpurified water in California. Its all healthy down there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:45 PM (39g3+)

809 I never said my taste in women was good. Plus Clancey Brown is always fun. Damn good voice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (ycWCI)

???

That would be like you telling a story about getting your ass chewed because of my "Secret Bathroom Time" with Cynthia Gibb.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:46 PM (ypSy2)

810 They are doing a Star Trek movie marathon on Starz right now. What is the sequence of good and bad? Odd or even number?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:46 PM (2DOZq)

811 760
There were no shortage of wonderfully talented character actors back in the golden age of Hollywood who had faces that just shouted "I'm a bad guy".

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:35 PM (jm1YL)

Seems like there were a lot more interesting looking "ugly" character actors in older movies. Now everyone is a pretty face, with a few exceptions.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (DNH+H)

812 Christopher Taylor, yeah that "raw water" obsessions makes me wonder when the cholera outbreak will happen.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (Qk41M)

813 810 They are doing a Star Trek movie marathon on Starz right now. What is the sequence of good and bad? Odd or even number?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:46 PM (2DOZq)

Even.

Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (Vb4BV)

814
Coffee enemas have been a thing with woo-woos for a while now. I remember reading something about it several years ago.

Maybe these wax 'n' shine places can offer it with the bleaching procedure. Have coffee while you wait.....

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (8O3HH)

815 ???

That would be like you telling a story about getting your ass chewed because of my "Secret Bathroom Time" with Cynthia Gibb.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:46 PM (ypSy2)

Valid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (ycWCI)

816 Speed had to be one of the worst sequels. I'm sure some said that already.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:48 PM (2DOZq)

817 Star Trek TOS movies?
I, II, III, IV, and VI

V never ever happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:48 PM (Qk41M)

818 768 Snake Pliskin was the antithesis of previous Kurt Russel roles such as The Computer Wore Sneakers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:37 PM (Qk41M)

---

TENNIS SHOES

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 06, 2018 09:48 PM (vChNs)

819 Seems like there were a lot more interesting looking "ugly" character actors in older movies. Now everyone is a pretty face, with a few exceptions.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (DNH+H)

Because no actor goes to Hollywood with stars in their eyes dreaming of being a bad guy.

Pretty and stupid is kind of the order of the day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:48 PM (ycWCI)

820 They are doing a Star Trek movie marathon on Starz right now. What is the sequence of good and bad? Odd or even number?

All the original cast movies are pretty entertaining except the search for God (Star Trek V). Only a couple of the later ones are any good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (39g3+)

821 780 Snake Pliskin was the antithesis of previous Kurt Russel roles such as The Computer Wore Sneakers.

-
Call me Snake.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:40 PM (+y/Ru)

I thought you were dead.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (DNH+H)

822 Posted by: Splunge at January 06, 2018 09:47 PM (Vb4BV)

Okay. Three is on now so I'll wait for four.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (2DOZq)

823 Call me Snake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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I actually knew a guy named 'Snake'. Authentic bad ass too. One of Kreuger's Alamo Scouts:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybd67b4j

My favorite quote from him, "We did not take prisoners".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (9tO1t)

824

I think V did exist, but every single copy was burned by universal accord in the only unanimous act ever accomplished by the UN.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (T/KY7)

825 777 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

who needs cream?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (vChNs)

826 People of the world, Godzilla is dead.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 09:50 PM (oVJmc)

827 Anyone see a movie called 'Moon' from 2009?

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I did. Great Rush Limbaugh voice over impression at the end.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (+y/Ru)

828 I like my coffee like my men...

Posted by: Barry O at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (FdNEK)

829 Venturing OT but.. Anyone watch Dark Matter?

Any EvE Online players?

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (kUotE)

830 826
People of the world, Godzilla is dead.

he'll be back. didn't stop him when they killed him in the first movie.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (2//jc)

831 825 777 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper

The best part of waking up is Folgers in my butt

Posted by: Gwyneth at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (DhcsO)

832
That would be like you telling a story about getting your ass chewed because of my "Secret Bathroom Time" with Cynthia Gibb.
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:46 PM (ypSy2)

This would be the Cynthia Gibb who was in Youngblood?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (tMFgx)

833 Was V the one with the Whales?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (2DOZq)

834 A guy like Earnest Borgnine would never get a part these days. Think of all those great character actors of the past, the funny looking guys who were so talented. Jack Elam, guys like that. Nobody would hire them any more. Even the store clerks are all handsome and pretty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (39g3+)

835
This Paltrow woman is obviously insane. Coffee up the butt? Come on.

Everybody knows you put yogurt up your ass.

*AND IF I CATCH ANY OF YOU MASTURBATING I'M GONNA STITCH UP YOUR DICKS, YOU PERVERTS!*

Posted by: Dr. John Harvey Kellogg at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (8O3HH)

836 799 Anyone see a movie called 'Moon' from 2009?
Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:44 PM (kUotE)

Sam Rockwell was robbed by not getting a best actor nod. The movie should have been nominated as well.

Posted by: Barak Hussien Obama, hiding in an Iranian well at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (Qe84+)

837 The best part of waking up is Folgers in your anus!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (vChNs)

838 ''Seems like there were a lot more interesting looking "ugly" character actors in older movies. Now everyone is a pretty face, with a few exceptions. ''

Funny thing though. Those same character actors would play a really bad guy in one movie and a good guy in the next. A talented bunch they were. BTW, Bogart started his career playing bad guys.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (jm1YL)

839 Robert Towne's screenplay for Chinatown.

Best original ever?

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The score is very good, too.

Pretty much everything in that movie - even Polanski in his role as an evil little bitch of a man - is really well done.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (Y7pP/)

840 773 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

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Between the steamed clam and the hot coffee, she's got a regular diner going on in her knickers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (c8EhQ)

841 Gojira can never die!

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier could have been saved if Sybok had not been used. If at the end Kirk had made reference to the the animated episode How Sharper Than a Serpent's Tooth. And no Uhura fan-dance.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (Qk41M)

842 Gwyneth Paltrow's latest daffy health gadget, a pump that shoots coffee up your pooper. The woman is a modern day Kellog.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:38 PM (39g3+)

Yet ... still ... a One.

Yes - she's still a One. And if her and I survive the Desert Island Crash Landing ... well, I guess I'll just have to figure out how to roast some tree bark and improvise a hose.

I'll take one for the team. Or - in this case - guess I'll have to learn how to give one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (ypSy2)

843 Holy Perwinkle Batman. This is real.

"Another thing that has been happening on the side is that a clinic at Yale Law School recommended that we be ready to respond emergently, within an hour or two of being called. So we have been doing both: A DC-based psychiatrist has been collecting names of colleagues would be willing to respond in an emergency, and members of the National Academy of Medicine have been recruited for helping us to select candidates for an independent expert panel.

This month, I will be meeting with additional lawmakers to discuss what else we need to do. I have also been put in touch with the original drafters of the 25th Amendment at Fordham Law School, and so we’ll see if they will give input.

Now, the president is undergoing a physical exam on January 12. The usual physical exam does not usually entail a thorough exam of mental fitness for duty, but we are hoping that some form of capacity exam will be included."

So, target date of Jan. 12. Ya really should read the Vox article. This is full court press.

Posted by: Professor Chaos 2018 aka gorilla gumdrop at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (25nrF)

844 he'll be back. didn't stop him when they killed him in the first movie.
Posted by: Anachronda
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Roentgen, it's a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (9tO1t)

845 833 Was V the one with the Whales?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (2DOZq)

No, V was the one with the lizard people who came to steal our water.

Posted by: Zombie Steve McQueen at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (ANIFC)

846
I thought you were dead.

Not hardly

Posted by: Big Jake at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (IqV8l)

847 Star Treks:

1) The space cloud
2) Khan
3) Spock is resurrected
4) Space Whales
5) God needs a space ship and Uhura's desert dance
6) Klingon detante
7) Next Generation takes over, don't bother

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (39g3+)

848 Between the steamed clam and the hot coffee, she's got a regular diner going on in her knickers.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (c8EhQ)

Between those and a saucy waitress named Flo, it is a regular Alice. All she needs is a crusty short order cook.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (ycWCI)

849 I will probably get willowed. I put in over 70 hrs at dad's house this week. Pick him up at 3 tomorrow. I really want to watch Jaws now. Kids tell me they need to update my firestick. Anywhere on the web can get it on my laptop?

Posted by: Infidel at January 06, 2018 09:54 PM (EGFUD)

850 Sock off.

Posted by: josephistan at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM (ANIFC)

851 >> she's got a regular diner going on in her knickers.

Camilla's got a full 7 course dinner going on in hers, ol' chap.

Posted by: Prince Chuckles at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM (8O3HH)

852 Christopher Taylor, yeah that "raw water" obsessions makes me wonder when the cholera outbreak will happen.

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Well, I don't know when but it'll be Trump's fault.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM (+y/Ru)

853 You want a good and underrated movie with a really good under the radar sequel? "The Prophecy" and "The Prophecy 2". Christopher Walken chewed the fuck out of the scenery in both as the Archangel Gabriel. The first one even has a pre-Lord of the Rings Viggo Mortensen as Lucifer, a part he absolutely nailed. Both are highly quotable even if theologically questionable.

The mortal protagonist in the first one had a great quote- "Some people lose their faith because Heaven shows them too little. But
how many people lose their faith because Heaven showed them too much?"

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM (2kD+f)

854 Finally I have to mention 'Ascension'. Tons of fun.

Posted by: Johnny at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM (kUotE)

855 31
'Malcolm X' must be the greatest sequel ever, because you never even hear about the first 9 movies.

...'cept for Leonard Part 6, of course.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM (2//jc)

856 BTW, Bogart started his career playing bad guys.

He actually started out playing the amiable buddy of the romantic lead in plays. The guy who never gets the girl and is friends with the hero.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:56 PM (39g3+)

857 824

I think V did exist, but every single copy was burned by universal accord in the only unanimous act ever accomplished by the UN.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair Beep-Beep at January 06, 2018 09:49 PM (T/KY7)

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we vetoed the Star Wars Xmas Special burning. bwahahahaha

Posted by: North Korea at January 06, 2018 09:56 PM (vChNs)

858 Funny thing though. Those same character actors would play a really bad guy in one movie and a good guy in the next. A talented bunch they were. BTW, Bogart started his career playing bad guys.
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To my surprise, I saw Jimmy Stewart play a bad guy in a Thin Man movie the other day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 06, 2018 09:56 PM (w1zJX)

859 This would be the Cynthia Gibb who was in Youngblood?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (tMFgx)

... and a ton of TV movies. She was busy.

Could have been the Mrs. ScoggDog.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 06, 2018 09:57 PM (ypSy2)

860 847
Star Treks:

1) ~~The space cloud~~ feature-length version of the episode with Nomad

fixt

Posted by: Anachronda at January 06, 2018 09:57 PM (2//jc)

861 838 Funny thing though. Those same character actors would play a really bad guy in one movie and a good guy in the next. A talented bunch they were. BTW, Bogart started his career playing bad guys.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:53 PM (jm1YL)

Yep, a short, funny looking guy with a speech impediment and became one of the biggest stars of his era. Plus scored Lauren Bacall.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:57 PM (DNH+H)

862 Raid 2 >> Raid 1

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (pV/54)

863

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (DNH+H)

864 Smiley nood ONT

Posted by: Monkey on Crack at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (/RYJz)

865 828 I like my coffee like my men...
Posted by: Barry O at January 06, 2018 09:51 PM (FdNEK)

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he means, {sotto voce} in his ASS.... {/sotto voce}

(why yes, I speak jive)

Posted by: Barbara Billingsley at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (vChNs)

866 Wasn't me.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (DNH+H)

867 You want a good and underrated movie with a really good under the radar sequel? "The Prophecy" and "The Prophecy 2". Christopher Walken chewed the fuck out of the scenery in both as the Archangel Gabriel. The first one even has a pre-Lord of the Rings Viggo Mortensen as Lucifer, a part he absolutely nailed. Both are highly quotable even if theologically questionable.

The mortal protagonist in the first one had a great quote- "Some people lose their faith because Heaven shows them too little. But
how many people lose their faith because Heaven showed them too much?"

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at January 06, 2018 09:55 PM

Elias Koteas,Christopher Walken, Viggo Mortenson, Eric Stoltz and Amanda Plummer all in fine form. Good movie.

Posted by: otho at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (qGuLD)

868 James Cagney best role was not a bad guy.

Yankee Doodle Dandy.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (2DOZq)

869 To boldly go where no man has gone before.

Posted by: Shat at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (FdNEK)

870 Anachronda, get in ma belly!!

Posted by: The Barrel at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM (toi7g)

871 Also NOOOOOOOD!!!

Posted by: Blutarksi-esque 0.0 at January 06, 2018 09:59 PM (+Tibp)

872 ''A guy like Earnest Borgnine would never get a part these days. Think of all those great character actors of the past, the funny looking guys who were so talented. Jack Elam, guys like that. Nobody would hire them any more. Even the store clerks are all handsome and pretty.'

More's the pity. They were great.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2018 09:59 PM (jm1YL)

873 "Another thing that has been happening on the side is that a clinic at Yale Law School recommended that we be ready to respond emergently, within an hour or two of being called. So we have been doing both: A DC-based psychiatrist has been collecting names of colleagues would be willing to respond in an emergency, and members of the National Academy of Medicine have been recruited for helping us to select candidates for an independent expert panel.

This month, I will be meeting with additional lawmakers to discuss what else we need to do. I have also been put in touch with the original drafters of the 25th Amendment at Fordham Law School, and so we 'll see if they will give input.

Now, the president is undergoing a physical exam on January 12. The usual physical exam does not usually entail a thorough exam of mental fitness for duty, but we are hoping that some form of capacity exam will be included."

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Definite evidence of mental illness.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at January 06, 2018 09:59 PM (+y/Ru)

874 833 Was V the one with the Whales?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (2DOZq)

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nah, lizards

Posted by: Barbara Billingsley at January 06, 2018 09:59 PM (vChNs)

875 Another sequel nowhere near the original: The follow up to Saturday Night Fever, Staying Alive

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:59 PM (Y7pP/)

876 James Cagney best role was not a bad guy.

Yankee Doodle Dandy.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 09:58 PM

Can't watch it without thinking about what a raging America-hating commie he was. My suspension-of-disbelief has limits.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (toi7g)

877 841
And no Uhura fan-dance.

but then it would have no socially redeeming characteristics at all!

Posted by: Anachronda at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (2//jc)

878 Tuna, that's why I like the old movies/

Posted by: Infidel at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (EGFUD)

879 If the Muslims are right about Gabriel inspiring Muhammad, then Gabriel is the Loki of the Celestial Court

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (6FqZa)

880 834 A guy like Earnest Borgnine would never get a part these days. Think of all those great character actors of the past, the funny looking guys who were so talented. Jack Elam, guys like that. Nobody would hire them any more. Even the store clerks are all handsome and pretty.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 09:52 PM (39g3+)

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finally, someone understands

Posted by: Steve Buscemi at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (vChNs)

881 This will be willowed, but the story is worth repeating.

Local card/collectables show had a couple of stars that you could talk to and get signings.

1 was a playboy playmate (don't remember which one, in the 80s) and the other was Jack Elam.

Everyone was at the Jack Elam line. Everyone wanted to talk to him and hear stories.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (39g3+)

882 A guy like Earnest Borgnine would never get a part these days. Think of all those great character actors of the past, the funny looking guys who were so talented. Jack Elam, guys like that. Nobody would hire them any more. Even the store clerks are all handsome and pretty.

We get these guys from the Brits now. They do not focus on looks the way we do. A lot of shows have actors that would not be considered attractive in anyway, IMO. Also, women do not have their faces botoxed and frozen.

Years ago when I began watching so much Brit TV, I remember finding it jarring that everyone wasn't attractive. Not conciously...subconciously. Now when I watch American TV everyone seems so cookie cutter. The blondes all look the same. The faces similar. Nothing unique or interesting. These are broad brushstrokes, but hopefully I'm making sense.

Brit TV has like, real people. We have photo shopped ones.

Posted by: Professor Chaos 2018 aka gorilla gumdrop at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (25nrF)

883 875 Another sequel nowhere near the original: The follow up to Saturday Night Fever, Staying Alive

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 09:59 PM (Y7pP/)

I'm running out of man cards. I liked Staying Alive.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 10:01 PM (2DOZq)

884 The old Hollywood women who keep looking for political relevance are just sad and pathetic. Streep, Streisand, Fonda and others just stop.

Posted by: CM9000 at January 06, 2018 10:01 PM (yugHp)

885 Definite evidence of mental illness.

Yep - the entire fuck left thinks its about half way to Mars right now.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 10:03 PM (Y7pP/)

886 Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (toi7g)

I was not aware of that . Part of the Unamerican Activities Committee targets?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 10:03 PM (2DOZq)

887
Between those and a saucy waitress named Flo, it is a regular Alice. All she needs is a crusty short order cook.

Oh, it's crusty...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 10:04 PM (oVJmc)

888 Years ago when I began watching so much Brit TV, I remember finding it jarring that everyone wasn't attractive. Not conciously...subconciously. Now when I watch American TV everyone seems so cookie cutter. The blondes all look the same. The faces similar. Nothing unique or interesting. These are broad brushstrokes, but hopefully I'm making sense.

I tell my wife that I can't tell the difference between shows any more because all the people look the same. Especially the women, they're interchangeable.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 06, 2018 10:05 PM (oVJmc)

889 I'm running out of man cards. I liked Staying Alive.

I liked it too - particularly Cynthia Rhodes work as Jackie - but it wasn't really up to the original - which really captured that slice of Italian NY in the era.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 10:06 PM (Y7pP/)

890 886 Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 10:00 PM (toi7g)

I was not aware of that . Part of the Unamerican Activities Committee targets?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 10:03 PM (2DOZq)

Just read Cagney's biography. I think you got bad info.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 10:10 PM (2DOZq)

891 Cageny did become a conservative American... eventually. Like in the 70s. But he had a thick FBI file back in the day, and was involved in numerous union actions and was a member of many "anti-fascist" organizations which were just fronts for communist groups (sound familiar?).

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 10:11 PM (toi7g)

892 My favorite Tarantino flix was Jackie Brown. Harry Potter favorites were Deathly Hollows 1 and 2. My youngest kids dragged me into the books, and I promised to read them all, last 3 showed author getting into her stride. Fun series , not great literature or cinema, but fun.

Posted by: colfax mingo at January 06, 2018 10:12 PM (C8LGv)

893 James Cagney best role was not a bad guy.

Here is one only people who study martial arts tend to know about: Cagny's martial arts movie Blood on the Sun.

Cagny and Bogart were actual martial artists: Cagny had a black belt in Aikido - Bogart a second degree black belt in Judo.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 10:12 PM (Y7pP/)

894 Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 06, 2018 10:11 PM (toi7g)

He voted for Dewey so I think he saw the errors of his ways earlier. He and Reagan were friends.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 06, 2018 10:12 PM (2DOZq)

895 For Bogart doing martial arts watch Tokyo Joe.

Posted by: An Observation at January 06, 2018 10:15 PM (Y7pP/)

896 Airport: Soap opera drama w/problem on the plane.
Airport 1975: BIG problem on the plane w/wild solution. Sappy bits of the characters (sick girl sticks out in my mind) replace the soap opera.
Airport '77: Used a plane to create another solution bit, sappy soapy a plenty.
The Concorde, Airport '79: Just...just no. Just...no, okay?

Posted by: Captain Comic at January 06, 2018 09:05 PM

that's why Airplane! is the best of the genre

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 06, 2018 10:20 PM (KCxzN)

897 You know what flick needs a sequel?

Alive.

Rugby players eat their dead.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 10:21 PM (pV/54)

898 Lots of people leaned Left in the 30s and 40s into the 50s. It looked to be the right thing for the common man.

But then it was like we had run a series of experiments and always got the same outcome.

To support Communism today (and the gateway drug of Socialism) you have to be blind or Highly Overeducated.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 06, 2018 10:24 PM (pV/54)

899 Someone asked earlier if "Fury" was a realistic WW 2 movie. Not even close.

For starters, every time they had the chance to capture a German soldier alive, they shot him out of hand. The movie made it seem as it was standard practice to shoot every Kraut.

Toward the end, Fury`s crew was sent forward to "protect a depot." That was utterly unrealistic; depots are in the rear. Even if one were somehow positioned that far forward, it would be valuable enough to have its own ring of fire and steel.

So they assemble a scratch team of tanks and send them out by themselves. Bad tactically, as tanks always had some mounted infantry tagging along, to keep enemy panzerfaust teams away from our tanks once they engaged. (We did the same with bazooka teams.)

The final scenario was utter fantasy. Supposedly, the Germans were advancing to threaten the depot when they came a upon the disabled Sherman tank. Since their objective was the depot, they would have simply bypassed the tank, maybe left a squad behind to keep an eye on it at a distance. They certainly would not have wasted their ammo and their lives against a tank, against which their rifles and machine guns were useless. That`s kinda the point to being a tank in the first place.

So the movie was a Leftist anti-military screed.

Kind of a shame, as they had the only operating Tiger tank to work with (and that whole engagement was also tactically unsound).

Posted by: Anonymous at January 06, 2018 10:27 PM (v5uOx)

900 No love for Psycho?

Posted by: Norman Bates at January 06, 2018 10:49 PM (/74LO)

901 I always thought Titanic II was a bad idea.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 06, 2018 11:36 PM (pL1Rq)

902 Of those from my lifetime, I guess Dirty Harry held up better than others. (Which one has the chase with the toy car.)

But as others have pointed out, series are not a new idea, and the Thin Man was the best of the lot. But many think Bride of Frankenstein at least as good as the original.

I wish they'd decided to make a series out of Master and Commander. The material is already there.

Posted by: George LeS at January 07, 2018 08:50 AM (+TcCF)

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