More #FakeNews from Former News Magazine Newsweek

CNN, for once, has the real story, rather than Newsweek's fake news.

Short story: The tree is in danger of falling unexpectedly. It is currently only being held up by artificial support (cables, etc.), but those cables aren't enough to keep the thing from crashing to the ground and maybe killing someone or damaging the White House.

Specialists at the United States National Arboretum were brought in by the White House to assess the Magnolia grandiflora, as it is specifically termed. According to documents obtained exclusively by CNN, the tree must be removed, and quickly, despite efforts to preserve it over several decades. The documents read in part:

"The overall architecture and structure of the tree is greatly compromised and the tree is completely dependent on the artificial support. Without the extensive cabling system, the tree would have fallen years ago. Presently, and very concerning, the cabling system is failing on the east trunk, as a cable has pulled through the very thin layer of wood that remains. It is difficult to predict when and how many more will fail."
The decision to remove the tree was ultimately made by first lady Melania Trump after she assessed all of the professional information and accompanying historical documents.

Now, here's how "News" Week clickbaited it:

Melania Trump orders removal of the near-200-year-old tree from the White House https://t.co/mkntr7Ytlf pic.twitter.com/Ck8Vj7VXgB
— Newsweek (@Newsweek) December 26, 2017

The story now says it's been "updated" with new information from the CNN article, which suggests the original story did not note that the tree crumbling and was an actual hazard.

Selena Zito is ashamed of her profession:

Headline is horribly misleading-example gatrillion of why nobody trusts my profession-be better stewards of journalism & stop being jagoffs https://t.co/NshM8G9N9U
— SalenaZito (@SalenaZito) December 26, 2017

MZ Hemingway, who is branded by the liberal Republican "Resistance" as being a propagandist for Trump because she points out that the liberal media often lies, is similarly critical:

Industry that complains about people deriding “fake news” should consider stopping creating it. https://t.co/q6PKjRY6Ck
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) December 26, 2017

How many lies does the media get to tell and still whine about their loss of credibility?

And say-- remember when CNN altered its video to make it appear that Trump decided on his own to dump the food into the koi pond, selectively zooming in the video so you could not see he was merely following President Abe's lead?

Posted by: Ace at 07:36 PM

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1 Wow

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 26, 2017 07:33 PM (Y9bDf)

2 reposted: for relevance.

These assholes are going to claim that they are Winston Churchill. And Trump is Hitler.

I'm gonna be sick.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:34 PM (M7eqI)

3 I believe Melania has always favored well pruned bush.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:34 PM (LAe3v)

4 Also, NOT a good picture of Melania. She looks like an angry man.

Still OOMs hotter than Mooch, though.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:35 PM (LAe3v)

5 I believe Melania has always favored well pruned bush.
Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:34 PM (LAe3v)

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2017 07:35 PM (5y11N)

6 * types something ending in "th!" *
* deletes *

Posted by: Hands at December 26, 2017 07:35 PM (EzdLW)

7

Courage

Posted by: Dan Rather at December 26, 2017 07:36 PM (IqV8l)

8 The entire point of the historical significance of Churchill, resisting the Nazis despite the (Obama-esque) Chamberlain horse-shit...

It will be lost. Because of LIES, Inc.

Fuckin hell.

Fucking bloody hell.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:36 PM (M7eqI)

9 willowed ( heh ) from last thread:

I'm tan, rested, and ready to park my ass up in that baby.

Posted by: Julia ''Butterfly'' Hill at December 26, 2017 07:37 PM (EzdLW)

10 I knew it was fake news immediately. As if Melania could kill a woody!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2017 07:37 PM (QCX64)

11 A buck will buy you Newsweek but not a cup of coffee.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 26, 2017 07:37 PM (T71PA)

12 It is FAR BEYOND time that the slander and libel laws vis-a-vis no recourse for public personalities be changed.

Posted by: ShainS at December 26, 2017 07:37 PM (BiLU+)

13 10
I knew it was fake news immediately. As if Melania could kill a woody!

Posted by: andycanuck

Now you've incurred the wrath of Nevergiveup.

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:38 PM (LAe3v)

14 Slovenians are known for their mortal hatred of wood.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 07:38 PM (/tuJf)

15
The tree was fine before Harvey visited the White House to visit Bent Bill.

Posted by: Beyond the ficus at December 26, 2017 07:38 PM (/zwDg)

16 Every tree. Every decision.

Every detail.

These shits will twist it to their advantage.

Die in a fire , Newsweek. Painfully.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:38 PM (M7eqI)

17 Cutting down what is essentially a dead tree is news now?

Of course it is because America has gone insane.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 26, 2017 07:38 PM (Y9bDf)

18 I can't even

Posted by: Old Blue at December 26, 2017 07:39 PM (gEvQ8)

19 Keep the tree, cut down Newsweek.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 26, 2017 07:39 PM (oVJmc)

20 I'll buy that for a dollar!

Posted by: Zombie Sidney Harman at December 26, 2017 07:40 PM (WbIyz)

21 The overall architecture and structure of the tree is greatly compromised and the tree is completely dependent on the artificial support. Without the extensive cabling system, the tree would have fallen years ago

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If they had that rigging for Hillary on 9/11/16, she might be President today.

Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 07:40 PM (ANIFC)

22 I knew it was fake news immediately. As if Melania could kill a woody!

Posted by: andycanuck

Now you've incurred the wrath of Nevergiveup.
Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:38 PM (LAe3v)

LOL, not wrath. I wish i had said both those things.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 26, 2017 07:40 PM (5y11N)

23 Its odd, how bad the news has gotten. I mean its always been pretty bad -- notoriously they never got a story right -- but lately its like they're deliberately trying to be awful. Pointlessly so, as well.

I remember well January of this year with major news outlets like the New York Times declaring that since Trump is such a monster they were changing the rules of journalism and going to straight out anti-Trump work rather than just news coverage.

It was a jaw-dropping admission. I mean they had been doing it already, but to come straight out and admit it in print was shocking. It was a direct admission that they didn't view their job as informing but as shaping and controlling.

President Trump has been great at kicking them in the teeth for this. The internet has made it very, very difficult for them to get away with what they used to routinely.

Remember this story: Ronald Reagan cuts free lunch budgets in schools, claiming Ketchup is a vegetable, remember that?

It was just a BS rumor. Someone told a reporter that's what he said, and they ran with it. But in the 1980s there was no internet, there was no voice for anyone to gainsay their rumors and lies. So now its presumed fact. Its treated as historical proof of Reagan's stupidity and evil toward kids.

Now they can't dot it so much any longer but they are trying it even more

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 07:41 PM (39g3+)

24
Allen Drury, a journalist, detailed FakeNews 50 years ago. Right Thinking People sneered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 07:41 PM (yRfhn)

25 Day ending in Y ...

Posted by: Bored383 at December 26, 2017 07:41 PM (i7lY3)

26 And they'll lie again, first opportunity they get.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2017 07:41 PM (Tyii7)

27 The opposition party of clowns and fools couldn't be more worthy of a mass wholesale horsewhipping if they tried.

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2017 07:41 PM (A1FgP)

28 selectively zooming in the video so you could not see he was merely following President Abe's lead?

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And if Abe jumped off a cliff would Trump jump too?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 26, 2017 07:42 PM (+y/Ru)

29 Salena wrote "jagoff."

He he he he

Posted by: JAS at December 26, 2017 07:42 PM (7JbXq)

30 Short story from 2016: ~~The tree~~ Hillary is in danger of falling unexpectedly. It She is currently only being held up by artificial support (fake polls, the MFM, etc.), but those aren't enough to keep ~~the thing~~ Hillary from crashing to the ground and maybe killing someone or damaging the White House.

Posted by: Hands at December 26, 2017 07:42 PM (EzdLW)

31 Newsweek makes North Korea look coherent and reasonable.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:42 PM (M7eqI)

32 Today's crop of "journalists" is a bunch of lazy, spoiled little pricks and prickettes. Gawd, how I hate them. I truly don't believe these people are bright enough or mature enough to make it in the real world.

Posted by: SteveOReno at December 26, 2017 07:43 PM (2sCft)

33 selectively zooming in the video so you could not see he was merely following President Abe's lead?

I always laugh when I see that clip, because it's clear Abe thinks this is completely stupid and pointless, while the media tries to make it into some big cultural insult.

"We gladly die for the koi!"

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:43 PM (LAe3v)

34 And note that the Newsweek photo shows her looking very severe, like she ordered the tree cut down just to be mean.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2017 07:44 PM (sdi6R)

35 And they'll lie again, first opportunity they get.

They will. What time is it?

Posted by: tu3031 at December 26, 2017 07:44 PM (O5Q3r)

36 34 "Melania Trump,pictured here passing a death sentence on a beloved 200 year old tree..."

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2017 07:44 PM (LiyEm)

37 But that tree has historical significance!

About 200 years ago, in the year 1919, a family of newly freed slaves set up a camp on the White House lawn. There they planted a tomato tree so they could feed their family. President John Tyler, weary from the Spanish-American War and relieved at its recent end, took pity on the family, invited them indoors in order to share Swiss Miss, and allowed the tree to stand.

Now the Trumps want to destroy the tree and all that it represents.

They can chop down the tree, but they cannot erase the history it represents!

Posted by: FireHorse at December 26, 2017 07:45 PM (y+SdL)

38 I saw that CNN posted a video of Trump golfing and the camera was what looks like the bushes.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 26, 2017 07:45 PM (dKiJG)

39 What gets me is the stupid minor shit they crank to 11 on the outrage meter.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 26, 2017 07:45 PM (wdmm9)

40
You know who else ordered trees cut down? Yeah, that bitch Eva Braun. And Ilse Koch.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 07:46 PM (yRfhn)

41 Almost every single fake news story starts out with a rumor or a tip by someone that the news then just runs without checking or asking. Because it says what they want said, or implies something they find politically useful.

An editor in the 1980s even would have spiked these stories instantly as being unsubstantiated and not news. it is not news that "someone says somebody says something" That is hearsay, it is rumor. Not news.

I would love to start up a Twitter account and do nothing with it except edit social media news posts like an old time editor would: strip out that opinion, strip out that leading word, strip out that passive voice, strip out that unsupported claim. But I don't have the time and energy and don't know the newspaper lingo to make it really effective.

I'd love it if someone else would, though. Not partisan, not political, just straight business: this is poorly written. Doesn't matter who it affects, what the story is, or where the source is. Just savage them for incompetence, not bias.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 07:46 PM (39g3+)

42 The fake news is the news we get now. The extent of how fake is the only real question. Or how slanted, skewed. The surprises only come when someone reports accurately. Like CNN just did.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 07:46 PM (flbmJ)

43 Just savage them for incompetence, not bias.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Why must we choose?

Posted by: pep at December 26, 2017 07:47 PM (LAe3v)

44 There's a concept in securities law that you can't say things that are literally true that are deliberately misleading. Fraud just the same.

MSM does this all the time. It's literally a fraud when it comes from people who profess to be truth tellers

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 26, 2017 07:47 PM (aj4ps)

45 @39 What gets me is the stupid minor shit they crank to 11 on the outrage meter.
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But he has TWO SCOOPS OF ICE CREAM!!1! Don't you understand how critical it is that the American people find out about this unhealthy eating habit of his!?

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 07:47 PM (DlSwL)

46 Couldn't get through Alan Drury's book. Such a cynical, and probably wildly accurate, portrayal of political life fifty years ago.

Not much has changed, except now we, as regular stiffs, can see more of it in action.

In the end, I'm not entirely sure if that is better or not.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 26, 2017 07:47 PM (CinLf)

47 Trump orders WH groundskeepers to scalp the south lawn so that all of the blades would be of uniform height. Doesn't he realize that that grass was brought from the plains by TR himself and scalping it as trump does is a direct affront to the Plains Indians!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (wdmm9)

48
President John Tyler

If I'm not mistaken, two of his grandsons are still alive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (yRfhn)

49 Melania Trumps Orders 200 Year Old Tree Cut Down Just To Watch It Die

Posted by: Newsweak at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (O5Q3r)

50 But he has TWO SCOOPS OF ICE CREAM!!1!

You forgot the 12 diet cokes.

Posted by: SteveOReno at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (2sCft)

51 Today's crop of "journalists" is a bunch of lazy, spoiled little pricks and prickettes
>>

God damn them all.

May they and their children starve, knowing only misery and illness. May their warmest nights be cold and their cold nights kill them with great prejudice, freezing, hopeless and empty.

May they experience every pain that they wish upon us.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (M7eqI)

52 >>>And note that the Newsweek photo shows her looking very severe, like she ordered the tree cut down just to be mean.<<

Melania Trump Fun Fact: The First Lady hired an illegal alien named Ivan to murder that tree to spite the beautiful and gracious Michelle Obama.

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (A1FgP)

53 45 And TWELVE fucking Diet Cokes a DAY!

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2017 07:49 PM (LiyEm)

54 Now now, before we get too aflutter about this I have a calming reminder for y'all...

In the past month the Deplorable Gourmet has sold more hard copy editions than has Newsweek.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 26, 2017 07:49 PM (fuK7c)

55 scalping it as trump does is a direct affront to the Plains Indians!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

It makes it easier for the migrating prairie crabs.

Posted by: Liz Warren at December 26, 2017 07:49 PM (LAe3v)

56 I believe Melania also shot a man in Reno...

Posted by: SteveOReno at December 26, 2017 07:49 PM (2sCft)

57 Why must we choose?

My sentiments exactly.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2017 07:49 PM (Tyii7)

58 42 The fake news is the news we get now. The extent of how fake is the only real question. Or how slanted, skewed. The surprises only come when someone reports accurately. Like CNN just did.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 07:46 PM (flbmJ)

There was a whole stupid thing on fb of a doctored screen grab claiming that Tomi Lehern (sp) claimed that Obamaa invented Festivus as an alternative to Christmas. Totally fake, but the hateful idiots gobbled it up.

Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 07:49 PM (ANIFC)

59 Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:48 PM (M7eqI)

Marks TI down as "undecided" on media bias.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (Y9bDf)

60 Trump opened ANWR to oil exploration with the tax bill. How have we not felt the thermonuclear heat from that outrage blast yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (wdmm9)

61 I bought a tree farm with about 30,000 pine trees. Next time I'm there I'm going to cut one down just to spite Newsweek.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (Sfs6o)

62 >>Almost every single fake news story starts out with a rumor or a tip by someone that the news then just runs without checking or asking. Because it says what they want said, or implies something they find politically useful.

But nott all of it. Some of it is flat out lying because they think they can get away with because they have for so long.

Whenever CNN reports about anything to do with Russia dossier remember they have known since last year that it was fake because they have contact with Fusion GPS. Evan Perez who does most of the Fusion related reporting is good friends with the founders of Fusion.

He is knowingly lying to the American public about stuff far more important than dead trees.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

63 Posted by: FireHorse at December 26, 2017 07:45 PM (y+SdL)

I have the original ax that young Washington used to cut down the cherry tree. Well the handle was broken almost a century ago and was replaced and a few decades ago the ax head was cracked and replaced. It still occupies the same space as the original though.

( if I could remember who I stole that from I'd give him credit)

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (2DOZq)

64
But that tree has historical significance!

About 200 years ago, in the year 1919, a family of newly freed slaves set up a camp on the White House lawn. There they planted a tomato tree so they could feed their family. President John Tyler, weary from the Spanish-American War and relieved at its recent end, took pity on the family, invited them indoors in order to share Swiss Miss, and allowed the tree to stand.

Now the Trumps want to destroy the tree and all that it represents.

Nailed it! A regular Herodotus, you are.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (pNxlR)

65 as I said over at Insty CNN carried "reality" because Jake "Honest Abe" Tapper couldn't figure out how to spin career civil servants rectifying a 50 year old issue into "Hot Model Wh*re FLotUS is Cruella DeVille on trees"....

Tapper may have downed 1/2 a 5th trying on a liquid lunch but eventually he declared defeat and went on.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (SzZnW)

66 After watching the CNN video on the tree, the truck looks hollow and I am surprised that they are removing it since it looks like it where reporters setup their camera's for the Helicopter shots and the tree might fall on them.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 26, 2017 07:51 PM (dKiJG)

67 I despise the media, but I do not wish starvation on them or their children. Or any of that other ecil stuff.

That is us becoming what we hate in the left. I am no better than them if I do that.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 07:51 PM (flbmJ)

68 The click bait item would make more sense if they rechristen the magazine "Newsweak."

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 26, 2017 07:51 PM (CmQ5p)

69
Why does Trump hate trees?

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2017 07:51 PM (qGuLD)

70 And yet ... the Newsweek tweet will cause some asshole in California to become outraged and attempt to mail a box of horse manure to the White House. #FakeNews must be working, otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 26, 2017 07:52 PM (/qEW2)

71 @60 Trump opened ANWR to oil exploration with the tax bill. How have we not felt the thermonuclear heat from that outrage blast yet?
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They're probably waiting until it looks like work is actually about to start. They already hit insanity levels of rage about the tax bill before the ANWR provision got added.

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 07:52 PM (DlSwL)

72 Marks TI down as "undecided" on media bias.

Posted by: weirdflunky

Yeah. I'm a little 'iffy'.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:52 PM (M7eqI)

73 Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

I wish public CNN critics would remind people more that CNN was in Saddam Hussein's pocket while the United States was in armed conflict with him.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 26, 2017 07:52 PM (2DOZq)

74 Ridiculous.

They need to cover real issues like Melania wearing high heels.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 07:53 PM (nLL8J)

75 Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 07:40 PM (ANIFC) LOL. Although I'd like to think that "basket of irredeemable deplorables" would have been enough on its own.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 26, 2017 07:53 PM (eASYU)

76
60 Trump opened ANWR to oil exploration with the tax bill. How have we not felt the thermonuclear heat from that outrage blast yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (wdmm9)

Can't speak for the Lower 48, but up here, there's nothing but cheers.

The local lefty rag said there was "sadness" about it, referring to the G'wichin Indians who live about 500 miles from the drilling sites, who apparently want to get paid before anybody does anything. They aren't sad, they are grifters, but that was the only peep from the antis.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2017 07:54 PM (7UW64)

77 Thank You, Bander. Truth in reporting.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 26, 2017 07:54 PM (qWWAV)

78 About 200 years ago, in the year 1919, a family of newly freed slaves set up a camp on the White House lawn. There they planted a tomato tree so they could feed their family. President John Tyler, weary from the Spanish-American War and relieved at its recent end, took pity on the family, invited them indoors in order to share Swiss Miss, and allowed the tree to stand.

That there is hilarious. Bravo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 26, 2017 07:54 PM (fuK7c)

79 Soros.

His fury at Hillary's loss is only matched by his investment in ShitNews.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:54 PM (M7eqI)

80 Why must we choose?

Well there's a lot of crappy writing and poor journalism that's positive toward President Trump and conservatism as well, and that should be savaged. My concern is the quality of journalism, its craftsmanship.

The media has always had its bias, but at least in years past there were enough people that cared about the job of being a reporter that they would try to do it well.

We need that, we need reporting, we need the news. Its critical that we are informed about events and policies and ideas and peoples. And we're not getting that now, except by tooth and claw. We shouldn't have to bludgeon the truth out of news sources, they should sell it to us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (39g3+)

81 I wonder why Andrew Jackson planted a magnolia tree instead of hickory.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (nLL8J)

82 67 I despise the media, but I do not wish starvation on them or their children. Or any of that other ecil stuff.

That is us becoming what we hate in the left. I am no better than them if I do that.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 07:51 PM (flbmJ)

How about genital crabs? Can we wish that on them? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (7UW64)

83
I despise the media, but I do not wish starvation on them or their children. Or any of that other ecil stuff.

That is us becoming what we hate in the left. I am no better than them if I do that.
Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg

George Will and Bill Kristol nod in approval.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (IqV8l)

84 Speaking of Kingsman, it's coming up on FX.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (/tuJf)

85 Mark Steyn in for Tucker

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (IqV8l)

86 60
Trump opened ANWR to oil exploration with the tax bill. How have we not
felt the thermonuclear heat from that outrage blast yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (wdmm9)

Everbody is dead from the Paris accords, Net Neutrality and the Tax Cuts, there is nobody left.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (dKiJG)

87 Yeah, Steyn is hosting for Tucker!

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (nLL8J)

88 It would seem that during the Obama Administration they were using ropes and cables to hold up the tree in what could be described as a "reverse lynching".

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (e8kgV)

89 referring to the G'wichin Indians who live about 500 miles from the drilling sites, who apparently want to get paid before anybody does anything

Same thing with the pipeline through Dakota. Had nothing to do with "sacred burial sites" or any of the rest of that crap -- they didn't bury like that. It had to do with money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (39g3+)

90 80 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (39g3+)

Bwahaha, once one accepts that the majority of the media lays awake at night trying to garner partisan advantage when reality is sadly "conspiring with and for Trump" it dawns on one "they murder news, and hide truth."

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (SzZnW)

91 From the CNN story:

Around 1970, it's believed one of the leaders broke off from the other two and was removed, and its cavity was exposed, leaving the entire tree susceptible to decay. As such, the cavity was filled in with cement, a procedure not advisable today, but which at the time was deemed the proper course of action. The concrete did irretrievable damage and in 1981, it was removed and replaced with a large pole and cable system, which remain today, holding up the remaining leaders.

[emph. mine]

They probably should've gone with composite. Or better yet, gold! (foreshadowing PDT)

Posted by: Hands at December 26, 2017 07:57 PM (EzdLW)

92 To be fair, Melania has a 10 out of 10 death stare.

Posted by: Monk at December 26, 2017 07:57 PM (g4lFK)

93 Nailed it! A regular Herodotus, you are.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2017 07:50 PM (pNxlR)

Nostril-damn-us.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2017 07:57 PM (7UW64)

94 They're probably waiting until it looks like work is actually about to start. They already hit insanity levels of rage about the tax bill before the ANWR provision got added.
Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 07:52 PM (DlSwL)

You're right! They'd already shot their full wad of screeching crazy outrage, and their limp outrage pricks had nothing left to shoot. So why not lard the bill up with all kinds of evil, world-destroying shit like ANWR. They couldn't have mustered anymore outrage without a long rest period with their blankies.

Posted by: SteveOReno at December 26, 2017 07:57 PM (2sCft)

95 I despise the media, but I do not wish starvation on them or their children. Or any of that other ecil stuff.>>>

That's okay.

They wish it upon you and your children. Every damn day.

Congrats on the superiority though.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 07:57 PM (M7eqI)

96 Nutty Kurt Eichenwald still works for Newsweek, right? That should tell you all you need to know about Newsweek.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 26, 2017 07:58 PM (O5Q3r)

97 67 Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 07:51 PM (flbmJ)

I want them in the tent villages under I-75 not ten minutes from CNN's headquarters that CNN NEVER MENTIONED DURING OBAMA'S ERA begging the hoboes for some beans.

They hate me and want to steal my nation and deny my beliefs political representation....I want them scourged.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 07:59 PM (SzZnW)

98 I wonder why Andrew Jackson planted a magnolia tree instead of hickory.
Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 07:55 PM (nLL8J)

Used them all to make ax handles.

Posted by: Auscolpyr at December 26, 2017 07:59 PM (pzA2L)

99 I think this Biro guy knows his way around a dick.

Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 07:59 PM (ANIFC)

100 88 It would seem that during the Obama Administration they were using ropes and cables to hold up the tree in what could be described as a "reverse lynching".
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (e8kgV)

They were using ropes and cables to hold up the Obama administration.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 26, 2017 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

101 In the past month the Deplorable Gourmet has sold more hard copy editions than has Newsweek.

Yeah and if people would just stop talking about these dunces, stop reacting, they'd sell even fewer and probably disappear.

Its like when Andrew Sullivan went nuts and everyone just had to run after every stupid crazy piece of crap he spewed like a monkey after a banana. Just ignore this guy, he's clearly cracked his nut and should be left alone.

If it weren't for right leaning pundits, MSNBC and Salon and the rest would just wither up and die. Its half their audience or more. Stop falling for the trolls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:00 PM (39g3+)

102 >>They were using ropes and cables to hold up the Obama administration.

Should have filled it with concrete.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 08:00 PM (/tuJf)

103 Nutty Kurt Eichenwald still works for Newsweek, right? That should tell you all you need to know about Newsweek.

Yep.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at December 26, 2017 08:00 PM (Tyii7)

104 They hate me and want to steal my nation and deny my beliefs political representation....I want them scourged.

Posted by: sven10077
...

Scourged. Yes.

Scourged works.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:00 PM (M7eqI)

105 For real, even my immigrant parents think CNN is hugely anti Trump. Oh, they think Fox is crazy pro Trump and everyone else is neutral, but I really think they might come around.

Just keep letting them dig the grave. Trump won last time without being able to make two dozen punchy, smart commercials screaming FAKE NEWS.

We just gotta last that long.

Posted by: trev006 at December 26, 2017 08:00 PM (n1ePc)

106 Used them all to make ax handles.
Posted by: Auscolpyr at December 26, 2017 07:59

Nothing like it!

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:01 PM (nLL8J)

107 Everbody is dead from the Paris accords, Net Neutrality and the Tax Cuts, there is nobody left.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 26, 2017 07:56 PM (dKiJG)

I know...how many times did we all die this year? I bet we die even more next year. Maybe we are all just good-looking zombies who culturally appropriate food.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 08:01 PM (flbmJ)

108 It would seem that during the Obama Administration they were using ropes
and cables to hold up the tree in what could be described as a "reverse
lynching".

They should have used bollards. That's what held me up!

Posted by: Hillary! at December 26, 2017 08:01 PM (O5Q3r)

109 This is exactly why I get my news from the HQ!

Come for the decisive commentary.
Stay for the vulgarity!

Posted by: mpfs, Having a Deplorable Time! at December 26, 2017 08:01 PM (79p/O)

110 Congrats on the superiority though.

And it is superiority. That's the entire meaning of the term, its not a sarcastic crack. Being better than them is actually being better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:01 PM (39g3+)

111 Where does Tucker Carlson find these back twink guests?

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 26, 2017 08:02 PM (2X7pN)

112 More from the story:

The official Jackson Magnolia has been in the background for numerous historic events, from state arrival ceremonies and Easter Egg Rolls, to thousands of photo ops, social and athletic activities, and countless Marine One departures and arrivals. Ironically, the tree stands directly behind where the press is currently penned during these occasions, now perilously close to the weakened giant.

That seems like a reason to leave the tree alone and let the chips fall where they may. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Hands at December 26, 2017 08:02 PM (EzdLW)

113 That tree is nothun'! You should check out the massive beech tree outside my condo...

https://goo.gl/maps/cWeYyEdGtfv

(link in sig.)

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 26, 2017 08:02 PM (Hnqc1)

114 Hack not back!

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 26, 2017 08:02 PM (2X7pN)

115 TuCa guest claims Russia tried to hack 8nto voting machines...

WTH is he talking about. Voting Machines are not connected to the WWW.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2017 08:03 PM (Eu5eZ)

116 CNN isn't much better as they left the fact that they've been growing seedlings to take it's place for months now.

People who are not wordsmiths by nature or education have little idea how much a report can be twisted 180 just by using the correct wording/phrasing.

The people need an education in propaganda. Of course they're getting it now but how many realize what's going on?

Just like music can evoke various emotions, words can also bring certain emotions to the surface and color ones judgement. And the effects can be longer lasting than just for that one article.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2017 08:03 PM (nzLi4)

117 It is important to note that previous administrations probably did not order the removal because no one since Ronald Reagan had any balls.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 26, 2017 08:03 PM (LWu6U)

118 Where does Tucker Carlson find these back twink guests?

I'm his supplier.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at December 26, 2017 08:03 PM (Tyii7)

119 Being better than them is actually being better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

..

Plenty of "actual people" are willing to lower ourselves to 'being worse' in order to defeat these people.

Maintain the high ground, though. We might want to build some townhouses there , someday.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:04 PM (M7eqI)

120 115 TuCa guest claims Russia tried to hack 8nto voting machines...

WTH is he talking about. Voting Machines are not connected to the WWW.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2017 08:03 PM (Eu5eZ)

And hacking into the voting machines is something even TFG said could never happen.

Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 08:04 PM (ANIFC)

121
Nostril-damn-us.

You betcha

Posted by: Henry Waxman at December 26, 2017 08:04 PM (IqV8l)

122 Please not to say Miklos, stupid Hungarian, is stupid, although Miklos worked for Newsweek.

I last got a paycheck from Newsweek almost 16 years ago, when it was still a semi-respectable publication, and quite profitable.

Without Miklos, everything goes straight to hell.

If they had told me it was for sale for a dollar, I would have paid that, and turned it into at least an easy buck fifty.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, journaliste par excellance at December 26, 2017 08:04 PM (zCyNd)

123 WTH is he talking about. Voting Machines are not connected to the WWW.

Quiet, he's on a roll.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at December 26, 2017 08:04 PM (Tyii7)

124 Remember Isaacson the giraffe?

The bookers sure can find freaks.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:05 PM (nLL8J)

125 @117 It is important to note that previous administrations probably did not order the removal because no one since Ronald Reagan had any balls.
-------------------------

Any significance to the fact that it's the First Lady who's ordering the removal?

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:05 PM (DlSwL)

126 What is all this crap about trees? I thought lefties were all about science. Trees grow, and then they get old, and then they die. Did nobody warn them that anything that lives eventually dies?

Do you even science, bro?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 26, 2017 08:05 PM (7UW64)

127 Its like when Andrew Sullivan went nuts and everyone just had to run after every stupid crazy piece of crap he spewed like a monkey after a banana. Just ignore this guy, he's clearly cracked his nut and should be left alone.

That was so disappointing. He was interesting to read (shut up) even if I did not agree with him. He was erudite and compelling. Then he totally went off the rails on the Palin thing. People tried to talk him down, but he would not listen. It was so weird. I was hoping it was his meds or something.

Anyway, that was it for me.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 08:06 PM (flbmJ)

128 Tom Fitton is an unsung hero.

"Greater love hath no man..."

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:06 PM (M7eqI)

129
Chucking at Horde naughtiness and considering joining in, but not enough time for a while, it occurs to me that this is the first and perhaps only First Lady of whose "pruning status" and such I would be fondly pondering.

FLILF.

And the most glamorous FLOTUS, a damned model at that, and our media just treats her like a pariah. She's married to Donald, so she's literally Hitler herself. She makes Jackie O look like a bag lady. But no, nothing.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 26, 2017 08:07 PM (8O3HH)

130 Melania and Donald partnering together to destroy trees. Donald, by reneging on the Paris Accord and rolling back Obama regulations, is killing them by the millions. Melania is a mere amateur in comparison, having just murdered her first tree. Whether or not she develops a taste for this as deeply felt as her husband's remains to be seen.

Posted by: Newsweek at December 26, 2017 08:08 PM (/qEW2)

131
99 I think this Biro guy knows his way around a dick.
Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 07:59 PM (ANIFC)

He sips penis with his pinkie finger extended.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2017 08:08 PM (pNxlR)

132 Melania has sexy feminine hands and fingers.

Posted by: Monk at December 26, 2017 08:09 PM (g4lFK)

133 It is important to note that previous administrations probably did not order the removal because no one since Ronald Reagan had any balls.
----

Also, the renovations of the Oval Office are now seriously overdue, because the necessary work requires vacating at area for the best part of a year. The previous resident did not want to be inconvenienced by work scheduled to begin during his reign.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, unoffical White House historian at December 26, 2017 08:09 PM (zCyNd)

134 TRUMP'S GOING TO HELL BECAUSE HE HATES FISH. FISH MURDERER! MELANIA'S GOING TO HELL BUT SHE DOESN'T HATE FISH. SHE'S JUST A BITCH.

Posted by: Rosie Odonnell at December 26, 2017 08:09 PM (398bZ)

135 It looks like there's another source for The Deplorable Cookbook, for people who avoid the Amazon behemoth: https://tinyurl.com/y7dhlc5s

Posted by: Driving Deplorables at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (6PtqA)

136 A significant portion of the American people believe that Newsweek is a valid news source.

And that their stories are revelatory and honest. And expose this evil Trump administration. Who wants to kill trees. And jobs. And America.

But the important thing is to " be better ".

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (M7eqI)

137 I mean, it's a fucking tree. Trees live, and then they die. Keeping that thing wired up is like the arboreal version of Weekend at Bernies. It has been mostly dead for many years.

This is a dangerously unserious time if people can get worked up over a dead tree. They should care as much about the institutions our forefathers have built up over centuries and which they are more than happy to tear down. Things like rule of law, religion, borders,.... that sort of thing.

Or maybe the irreplaceable structures the muzzies are tearing down around the world...

These pathetic imbeciles disgust me.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (LWu6U)

138 Any significance to the fact that it's the First Lady who's ordering the removal?

Posted by: junior at December

--She actually explored every other option to keep the tree, but only removal was possible to ensure safety.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (nLL8J)

139 " ... time that the slander and libel laws vis-a-vis no recourse for public personalities be changed."

Time for that passed away long ago, unfortunately ...

-

*redacted to avoid bannination*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at December 26, 2017 08:11 PM (oVWx5)

140 I think the media is really torn on Melania. She's literally an immigrant, she speaks a bunch of languages, she's gorgeous and classy, she's clearly a good person and yet, to praise her makes her husband look good by comparison so they are mostly just mum about her like she doesn't exist. Its really quite pathetic.

I mean, if President Obama had married Iman or something I'd have had to admit, wow she's very pretty and classy looking. That doesn't mean I cannot oppose Obama's policies. But no, he married Michelle and they had to pretend she was this lovely fashion plate despite being nothing of the sort. And ignore the most beautiful first lady that the nation has ever seen (except, possibly Dolly).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:11 PM (39g3+)

141
Sullivan went off the rails long before Palin, mostly on gay marriage. He said anyone who thought allowing gay marriage in Massachusetts meant national gay marriage was paranoid. A view subject to change.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 08:11 PM (yRfhn)

142 Plenty of "actual people" are willing to lower ourselves to 'being worse' in order to defeat these people.

Maintain the high ground, though. We might want to build some townhouses there , someday.

Wishing starvation on children is a level you are willing to sink too. I do not see how that helps "defeat these people". It only blackens your own soul. And it is your soul, so you are free to do so.

And I am free to post that I do not wish starvation and emptiness on children.

Ace recently had a post about not becoming like them. I'm reinforcing some points that were made.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 08:12 PM (flbmJ)

143
I think this Biro guy knows his way around a dick.

He was an Army Ranger and Obama activist.
And LGBT cracktavist.

https://www.robinbiro.com/about-me

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2017 08:12 PM (IqV8l)

144 Melania "Tree Killer" Trump.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at December 26, 2017 08:12 PM (wpJDK)

145 I remember when I was told that "choosing any Republican candidate other than Trump " was equivalent to "taking the high ground".

____

Fuck the high ground.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:13 PM (M7eqI)

146 "137 I mean, it's a fucking tree. Trees live, and then they die. Keeping that thing wired up is like the arboreal version of Weekend at Bernies. It has been mostly dead for many years.

This is a dangerously unserious time if people can get worked up over a dead tree. They should care as much about the institutions our forefathers have built up over centuries and which they are more than happy to tear down. Things like rule of law, religion, borders,.... that sort of thing.

Or maybe the irreplaceable structures the muzzies are tearing down around the world...

These pathetic imbeciles disgust me.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (LWu6U)"

Yeah, this.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at December 26, 2017 08:13 PM (oVWx5)

147 I'm curious to know how wishing death upon children does anything to actually stop the liberal agenda and restore our republic.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:13 PM (bZ7mE)

148 According to the LATimes, California is putting pot into everything. Don't eat anything coming from California. Don't drink the wine. Everything will be laced with pot.

drudge link.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 26, 2017 08:13 PM (KdDCu)

149
Melania in a dominatrix outfit and chain saw cuts the Jackson Magnolia down.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 08:13 PM (yRfhn)

150 >>A significant portion of the American people believe that Newsweek is a valid news source.

Not that significant, not anymore.

Any magazine that can be sold in it's entirety for $1 isn't all that influential.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

151 137 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (LWu6U)

https://youtu.be/G880gxjj9dI

"Earth First Wails at trees"

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:14 PM (SzZnW)

152 It looks like there's another source for The Deplorable Cookbook, for people who avoid the Amazon behemoth: https://tinyurl.com/y7dhlc5s
Posted by: Driving Deplorables at December 26, 2017 08:10 PM (6PtqA)
-----------

We have not released the cookbook anywhere but through Amazon. We hold the copyright. Whoever is selling through the B&N marketplace, or those other resellers on Amazon, are buying it through us and then reselling it, which is still going through Amazon.

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2017 08:14 PM (kNasr)

153 Mark needs to practice his Tucker Face.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:14 PM (nLL8J)

154 Late to the party, but whatever.

1. I always thought of hummus as a minor improvement, flavor-wise, on wallpaper paste, so have no problem blaming arabs for it. In fact, it's kind of anti-Semitic to to give Jews the blame for the shit.

2. I'm surprised Obamao didn't have the magnolia cut down, given the connotations of "Magnolia-scented South" and all that. Maybe he was hoping it would fall, and tear down that house "built by slaves" with it?

Merry Christmas, Ace, and to the Moron Horde!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2017 08:14 PM (d6iST)

155 But the important thing is to " be better ".

Some day I hope you'll come to understand that being better is actually... you know, better. That there is virtue and morality that matters more than victory, and that some paths, some tactics are not worth doing even if they seem effective. To take the road of doing anything that seems most useful and likely to succeed no matter what it entails is bad for everyone, particularly ourselves.

This is where you claim white knighthood and high moral ground while we lose blah blah false dichotomy. There are things we can and must do that might be morally troubling in more peaceful times or times of health and stability. That much is obvious to all but the weakest intellect. But that gray area does not mean that we should engage in wholesale family slaughter, at any time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:15 PM (39g3+)

156 He was an Army Ranger

I'll need to see paperwork to believe that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 26, 2017 08:15 PM (oVJmc)

157 time that the slander and libel laws vis-a-vis no recourse for public personalities be changed."

The rules are still different in the UK.

There has been a lost of "libel shopping" in the UK courts; the practice has been somewhat restricted.

Christopher Steele, the putative author of the famous dossier, is being sued in the UK. His statements to date have been illuminative.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, unoffical libeller/libellee at December 26, 2017 08:15 PM (zCyNd)

158 @138 --She actually explored every other option to keep the tree, but only removal was possible to ensure safety.
-----------------

Actually, I noted that it was the First Lady because of the "balls" comment in the post I was quoting.

Of course, having quipped about that, I'll also note that given where she's from and what she's accomplished, comments about "having balls" probably apply just as much to her as to her husband.

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:16 PM (DlSwL)

159 There is a metaphor about what journalism has morphed into to be inferred from the sad state of this one tree.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 26, 2017 08:16 PM (NKXpn)

160 Any significance to the fact that it's the First Lady who's ordering the removal?

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:05 PM (DlSwL)

Of course. Why isn't Newsweak upset about all the gorgeous healthy trees being pulled down b/c of racism? They are all off their nut.

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 08:16 PM (flbmJ)

161
Wishing starvation on children is a level you are willing to sink too.

//

Watch carefully as I do not give a single shit. Watching my own kids suffer for 8 + years helped me get clear on this point of view and clear myself of the #fakereligioussuperiority brand of conservatism .

Read your Old Testament. "Kill every man,women and child."

Yeah. I'm good with that.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:16 PM (M7eqI)

162 Steyn is rolling.

Three guests in just the first segment.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:16 PM (nLL8J)

163 1) Rant online about how the children of my enemies should starve.
2) ???????
3) Republic is restored!

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:17 PM (bZ7mE)

164 155 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:15 PM (39g3+)

Winning comes first, second, third, fourth, and fifth....

moral vanity comes in at 736th.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:17 PM (SzZnW)

165 about time somebody cleans up that ghetto looking shithole. thanks obama. trees that are dead should be removed. the white house isn't east st. louis. assholes. maybe quit maintaining the roof for authenticity.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2017 08:17 PM (KP5rU)

166 1) Rant online about how the children of my enemies should starve.

2) ???????

3) Republic is restored!

Posted by: Grey Fox
..

zzzzzzzzzzz

boring

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:17 PM (M7eqI)

167 I don't want their kids to starve. I want the to be forced to live on Brussel's sprouts and hummus.

I am truly evil.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (/tuJf)

168 So we got an annoying trool going all Russian on us? Cutting one's nose off to smite their face and all that? Or just the usual Astro-Turf moby?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (NKXpn)

169 A son of legendary former Washington Post publisher Katharine Graham shot himself to death in a suicide that's eerily reminiscent of his dad's more than 50 years ago, according to a report Tuesday.

William Graham, 69, died Dec. 20 at his home in Los Angeles, according to an obituary in the Washington Post, which quoted his brother Donald as saying the cause was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (e8kgV)

170 zzzzzzzzzzz

boring

Why, yes, you rather are.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (bZ7mE)

171 115 TuCa guest claims Russia tried to hack 8nto voting machines...

WTH is he talking about. Voting Machines are not connected to the WWW.

Posted by: Burnt Toast

I hope that guy brought up chemtrails. Gotta have chemtrails!

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (peJQi)

172 Winning comes first, second, third, fourth, and fifth....
moral vanity comes in at 736th.

Posted by: sven10077
...

Forget it, sven.

It's Virtue-Signaling Town.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (M7eqI)

173 Fake news gotta fake bro.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (IYHxL)

174 The tell"digging your own grave" comes to mind. So what's up with this January 15 report? No one is talking about it. Hello?

Posted by: Max Power at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (QCc6B)

175 Christopher Taylor - You can take the high road to defeat. I prefer winning. And spare me the "If we do that we become them crap." I offer WWII as a counter.

Posted by: Butch at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (hXu8T)

176 145
I remember when I was told that "choosing any Republican candidate other
than Trump " was equivalent to "taking the high ground".

____

Fuck the high ground.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:13 PM (M7eqI)

Trump is the greatest present ever, the press lose their shit over anything he does, it's incredible to see.I didn't like Trump but my god, he is like a light that got turned on and you realize that the press was always lying to us, now we see it in real time. I watched an old video of realtime coverage of when Reagan was shot and it's night and day. Those were real newsman, and see the anchor yelling at his staff about getting it right and apologizing to the viewer.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (dKiJG)

177 On a related note, I truly hope Michelle Obama was able to find comfort and peace when the American people finally unchained her from the White House and allowed her to blossom back into her own humble, happy existence.

Peace be with you, my little hummingbird and Feliz Navidad!

Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (A1FgP)

178 I want the to be forced to live on Brussel's sprouts and hummus.

I am truly evil.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (/tuJf)
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No. If you were truly evil, you'd want them to be forced to live on cauliflower and raw oysters.

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (kNasr)

179 >> He was an Army Ranger

Rear Guard?

Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (QmIMb)

180 Doesn't matter who it affects, what the story is, or where the source is. Just savage them for incompetence, not bias.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 07:46 PM (39g3+)

========

I don't think it is incompetence. I'm starting to think journalists are being trained to do this. As if as an exercise they are presented with a list of facts comprising a hypothetical story and then have to come up with a headline and article for "how to slant things to make party A in the story look good?" "how to slant things to make party B look good?"

You keep suggesting this is a competence issue, as if people aren't aware of what they're doing. I think the bias is a skill that is being intentionally honed.

Posted by: Newsweek at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (/qEW2)

181 A significant portion of the American people believe that Newsweek is a valid news source

Yeah, not so much any more. If it weren't for dentists offices and libraries, I don't know if any copies would sell.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (39g3+)

182

And the trees were all made equal by hatchet, ax and Trump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (IqV8l)

183 Hey everybody.

No. If you were truly evil, you'd want them to be forced to live on cauliflower and raw oysters.
Posted by: bluebell

And carrot chili!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (eMKNe)

184 If Hannity and Laura Ingraham are out this week as well, Mark Steyn should guest host their shows too.

Posted by: Hands at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (EzdLW)

185 New 'edgy' guy.

That's always nice.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (oVJmc)

186 Of course, having quipped about that, I'll also note that given where she's from and what she's accomplished, comments about "having balls" probably apply just as much to her as to her husband.
Posted by: junior at Decem

--I sometimes wonder what people who grew up in communist countries think about the pissing and moaning our victim groups here do constantly.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (nLL8J)

187 @140 I think the media is really torn on Melania. She's literally an immigrant, she speaks a bunch of languages, she's gorgeous and classy, she's clearly a good person and yet, to praise her makes her husband look good by comparison so they are mostly just mum about her like she doesn't exist.
-------------------------

I don't think it's that. There's a certain degree of contempt toward any woman who's an attractive foreigner, marries an American man, and lives in the States with him. Regardless of her actual status and accomplishments, she gets tarred to a certain degree with the "mail order bride" thing. I suspect the media holds her in contempt because of the two items I mentioned (as well as the fact that her husband is a Republican, of course), and as a result will refuse to allow anything that might cast her in a positive light.

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (DlSwL)

188 Speaking of the beautiful FLOTUS, this pic of the First Lady was posted to her Twitter feed on Christmas day.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9qc4rwp

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (AJeMv)

189 It's fun to bludgeon trolls!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (eMKNe)

190 And carrot chili!
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (eMKNe)
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Word.

Merry Christmas, qdpsteve!

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (kNasr)

191 177 Posted by: Fritz at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (A1FgP)

Damn I actually launched triscuits over that post...nicely done.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (SzZnW)

192 Thanks you too Bluebell!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (eMKNe)

193 Washington Post, which quoted his brother Donald as saying the cause was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (e8kgV)

Still got it.

Posted by: Former Governor and First Lady of Arkanasas at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (zCyNd)

194 TuCa guest claims Russia tried to hack 8nto voting machines...

I thought that was Obama's DHS.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (oVJmc)

195 @149 Melania in a dominatrix outfit and chain saw cuts the Jackson Magnolia down.
-------------------

Chain saw sales suddenly shoot through the roof.

Is there *anything* Trump can't do?

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (DlSwL)

196 Not content with killing people by banning Muslims, giving west Jerusalem to the Zionists, ending freedom on the internet, and taking away our health care, Trump is now killing valuable trees because he doesn't trust them.

He's literally Hitler.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (JfTed)

197 >>No. If you were truly evil, you'd want them to be forced to live on cauliflower and raw oysters.

I'm just going to pretend I didn't see that.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (/tuJf)

198 newsweak is not even on a level with the defunct weekly world news. i breathlessly await their report of batboy, or the b-17 we left on the moon. fucking children of fucktards.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2017 08:23 PM (KP5rU)

199 FU Jerry Brown

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:23 PM (nLL8J)

200 You keep suggesting this is a competence issue, as if people aren't aware of what they're doing. I think the bias is a skill that is being intentionally honed.

You can take the high road to defeat. I prefer winning.

This needs to stop right now. You're defending the notion that its a choice between "do nothing" and "murder their babies" and that's not just insane, its ludicrously wrong. There are tactics that are always wrong no matter what the fight is. That's why we didn't make lampshades out of German POW skins and throw them in ovens for God's sake.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:24 PM (39g3+)

201 From some of the online images of that tree, it could stand a little pruning.

Long overdue.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 26, 2017 08:24 PM (KdDCu)

202 If you were truly evil, you'd want them to be forced to live on cauliflower and raw oysters.

Truly evil would be Lima beans and liver....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 26, 2017 08:24 PM (tnRJU)

203 I get they don't like Trump. I. GET. IT. I personally don't care for him either. Just not my kinda guy. So what? When I agree with Trump, he has my support. When I disagree, he doesn't. Beyond that, meh.

Trump could dump a 5 pound bag of dog food in the Japanese Koi pond - who the fuck really cares? Is that what moves these idiots on the left? No wonder he is winning.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at December 26, 2017 08:25 PM (fftfA)

204 You're defending the notion that its a choice between "do nothing" and
"murder their babies" and that's not just insane, its ludicrously wrong.
..

Who is murdering babies again?

So hard to keep up.

*eyeroll*

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 08:25 PM (M7eqI)

205 Just think if Melania ordered that Michael Obama's personal historical shrine/garden--installed in as permanent fashion as could be--be removed and replaced. Oh, the outrage. In light of Ms. Obama's helping Barky with dividing the nation on race, Melania should do just that. Replace the garden with white roses and a comment in a heavily faked German accent that "If you veruckt lefties vant a beetch, zen I vill geev you a beetch."

Posted by: oddnot's waiting for the Happening and Big Ugly at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (g1MTt)

206 No. If you were truly evil, you'd want them to be forced to live on cauliflower and raw oysters.

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2017 08:19 PM (kNasr)

========

Throw in an allowance of lemon and that spicy tomato sauce, and that actually sounds appealing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (/qEW2)

207
He's literally Hitler.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 26, 2017 08:22 PM (JfTed)

*exasperated sigh*

He was Literally Hitler months ago. Now he would have to be Literally Ultra-Hitler or something like that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (yRfhn)

208 Boy this thread had some ugly in it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (IYHxL)

209 One rag I saw at the supermarket while I was in the checkout line was a cover of Melania."Melani's dark secrets"Deteriorating marriage.Separate bedrooms.Trump with some new sexy young aide etc...

Posted by: steevy at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (LiyEm)

210 200 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:24 PM (39g3+)

No we let the Jews who liberated the camps shoot a few of the bast*rds to get the point across Mr. Taylor.

I find the moral hazard from the l;iteral reeducation camps deprogramming these people from being Beria's grandchildren to be as great as the figurative "Old Yellering" of their ability to sway ANYONE.

I would call them professional liars, but the fact is they have the amateur zeal of Father Torquemeda, and the ethical values of whorehouse timekeepers.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:27 PM (SzZnW)

211 207 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (yRfhn)

Next month he is LITERALLY STALIN(not that there is anything wrong with it-Al-NYT)

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:28 PM (SzZnW)

212 trump should have just thrown some m-80s in that koi pond. who gives a fuck about gold colored carp?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2017 08:28 PM (KP5rU)

213 208 Boy this thread had some ugly in it.
Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm b

--You saw the Grossie O'Donnell sock?

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:29 PM (nLL8J)

214 Krugman has a rant about The Horror That Is Trump.

He sounds like a teenage girl.

They are incensed at Trump because he doesn't have their approved pedigree. That undermines their elite position, almost as if all their expertise is a sham and that real-world experience actually counts, not their sheepskin from the Right School, not their imported ties, not their tailored suits with the Right Name on the inside pocket.

It's all about Class and Pedigree to these people, and Trump is just Unclean.

There's no living with people like that, not when they seek control. The entire Ruling Class is going to have to be deposed and run out of town or they're just going to rebuild their monopoly when they (or term limits) finally get him out of the way.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 26, 2017 08:29 PM (oVJmc)

215 167
I don't want their kids to starve. I want the to be forced to live on Brussel's sprouts and hummus.

I am truly evil.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2017 08:18 PM (/tuJf)
I actually like both of those. Though not together. Bleah.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 26, 2017 08:30 PM (JfTed)

216 212 Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2017 08:28 PM (KP5rU)

Those fish were a personal gift from their sun god or something....

//NewsWeak Special War Correspondent White Goodman

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:30 PM (SzZnW)

217 the ethical values of whorehouse timekeepers

*Snort* Damn sure gonna steal that one.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 26, 2017 08:30 PM (tnRJU)

218 Yeah, not so much any more. If it weren't for dentists offices and libraries, I don't know if any copies would sell.

It's online-only. No copies sell.

As noted above, the Deplorable Gourmet has sold more hard copies in the last month than has Newsweek.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 26, 2017 08:30 PM (fuK7c)

219 200
You're defending the notion that its a choice between "do nothing" and "murder their babies" and that's not just insane, its ludicrously wrong. There are tactics that are always wrong no matter what the fight is. That's why we didn't make lampshades out of German POW skins and throw them in ovens for God's sake.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:24 PM (39g3+)

That's true, but we did end up carpet bombing German and Japanese cities, after calling enemy bombardment of civilian areas atrocities early in the war.

You can't win fighting by Marquess of Queensbury rules when the other guy is using brass knuckles and sucker punches.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (sdi6R)

220 I find the moral hazard from the l;iteral reeducation camps deprogramming these people from being Beria's grandchildren to be as great as the figurative "Old Yellering" of their ability to sway ANYONE.

I would call them professional liars, but the fact is they have the amateur zeal of Father Torquemeda, and the ethical values of whorehouse timekeepers.

And how does publicly wishing death on their children change any of that?

Sven, I love you like a brother but I have no fricken' clue what your logic is here, or even what you are trying to say.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (bZ7mE)

221 krugman is a little boy penis sipper. fuckin pedo.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (KP5rU)

222 You keep suggesting this is a competence issue, as if people aren't aware of what they're doing. I think the bias is a skill that is being intentionally honed.

Yeah I don't mean they're too dumb to do their job, I mean they lack professional competency, they suck at it. Sure, they're sucking on purpose because of bias, but that's because they've been taught to do their jobs poorly.

Its like someone who hits by holding the baseball bat in their teeth and swinging their elbows. Even if they are doing it on purpose for some activist cause they're still incompetent at the task.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (39g3+)

223 *exasperated sigh*

He was Literally Hitler months ago. Now he would have to be Literally Ultra-Hitler or something like that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (yRfhn)He's literally Sauron!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (JfTed)

224 And hacking into the voting machines is something even TFG said could never happen.

Posted by: josephistan at December 26, 2017 08:04 PM (ANIFC)

Well, since TFG has an inerring sense of knowing the wrong answer to any question, one can assume the voting machines are hackable. At least some.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (d6iST)

225 "--You saw the Grossie O'Donnell sock?"

YOU'RE GOING TO HELL.

Posted by: Rosie Odonnell at December 26, 2017 08:32 PM (398bZ)

226 216: typical oriental right wing bullshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 26, 2017 08:33 PM (KP5rU)

227 Guys, screaming "I HATE THEM" on the interwebz does not constitute fighting.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:33 PM (bZ7mE)

228 Nood.

Trump UN budget

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:33 PM (DlSwL)

229 Nice punny monologue, Steyn.

Posted by: logprof at December 26, 2017 08:33 PM (nLL8J)

230 I do find it odd that Paul Krugman would deliberately set fire to his professional credibility on the altar of credibility for the sake of political partisanship.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 26, 2017 08:33 PM (nBr1j)

231 Just savage them for incompetence, not bias.

Embrace the power of "and."

Posted by: Butch at December 26, 2017 08:34 PM (hXu8T)

232 220 Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:31 PM (bZ7mE)

The media wishes death on my son who will be doing MI work when they weaken and destabilize the world in pursuit of their fevered globalist socialist schemes.

I would never personally wish anything other than penury on the media, and hope they are underneath it all decent enough when divine justice renders them unable to feed their kids selfless enough to leave them on a Temple door for adoption.

The media tittered when Grammy H called us "deplorable and unredeemable" I call the media unconscionable.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:34 PM (SzZnW)

233 You can't win fighting by Marquess of Queensbury rules when the other guy is using brass knuckles and sucker punches.

Again, you're creating a false dichotomy here. The choice isn't between "we must not engage in fisticuffs" and "we should murder their children and wives" Because that's what he's calling for, literally. My opposition is not to fighting, its to insanely and brutally murdering people for the sake of them being related to our enemies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 26, 2017 08:35 PM (39g3+)

234 NIU never had a chance.

KState will lose as well to UCLA w/o Rosen.

Posted by: Monk at December 26, 2017 08:35 PM (g4lFK)

235 You know that always bugged me - how Michele Obama was feted as being amazingly beautiful, fashionable, and cultured...and she. was. not. But you know, whatever. Then you get Melina Trump, who literally was a fashion model, and...crickets. I feel like I'm getting gas lighted.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at December 26, 2017 08:35 PM (fftfA)

236 Boy this thread had some ugly in it.
Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 26, 2017 08:26 PM (IYHxL)

IKR? I thought the Christmas Spirit would last longer than 24 hours!

Posted by: Professor NY Chaos aka gg at December 26, 2017 08:36 PM (flbmJ)

237 227 Posted by: Grey Fox at December 26, 2017 08:33 PM (bZ7mE)

No, highlighting their moral, ethical, and factual errors and inability to be as accurate as the town drunks on news is "fighting them."

Operation Pipe Wrench is long past due, if there is one thing Pervnado showed it is the structural vulnerability the potemkin village of media moral superiority is.

Good men and women of character should be funding a 21st century dirty tricks committee.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:36 PM (SzZnW)

238 "I don't think it is incompetence. I'm starting to think journalists are being trained to do this. As if as an exercise they are presented with a list of facts comprising a hypothetical story and then have to come up with a headline and article for "how to slant things to make party A in the story look good?" "how to slant things to make party B look good?"

You keep suggesting this is a competence issue, as if people aren't aware of what they're doing. I think the bias is a skill that is being intentionally honed.
Posted by: Newsweek at December 26, 2017 08:20 PM (/qEW2)"

THIS ! x a very large number.

Or if it's too conspiracy-theoried for you, try "selected for", in a Darwinian sense.

Having grown up as the son of a National Match shooter back in the 60's, I have known that the media is consciously lying to me since I went through puberty; furthermore, I have watched it get worse every year now for half-a-fucking-century.

Kudos to those who are just getting woke here in the 21st.
/sarc

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at December 26, 2017 08:39 PM (oVWx5)

239 238 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at December 26, 2017 08:39 PM (oVWx5)

75 years ago the journalism profession would have laughed at "J School" and had they heard a young cub saying things like "I want to change the world" they would have been laughed out of the building.

Modern "journalism" is an open-aired collectivist conspiracy to blind America to reality.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 08:43 PM (SzZnW)

240 It's fun to bludgeon trolls!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 26, 2017 08:21 PM (eMKNe)

And unlike baby seals, they're always in season!

Posted by: Miklos, of the First People at December 26, 2017 08:44 PM (zCyNd)

241 "Again, you're creating a false dichotomy here. The choice isn't between "we must not engage in fisticuffs" and "we should murder their children and wives" Because that's what he's calling for, literally. My opposition is not to fighting, its to insanely and brutally murdering people for the sake of them being related to our enemies."

No, the reason why you take out the family is not simply because they are "related" you not only wipe them out but them, their neighbors, their shrink, the guy who made their sandwich...

You make even being around these Alpha Hotels such a terror that they deny them and want nothing to do with them.

Failing that, they will do as we have seen throughout history and even as recently as the ROE in AF and IQ. The monsters will hide behind their women and children, will amass weapons and build bombs in their libraries, hospitals and places of worship because they exploit the fact you are too weak and unable to grasp the depth of the seriousness of the matter and will value your vanity before you value the Cause.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 26, 2017 08:49 PM (lD3vL)

242 Thus says the LORD of hosts, 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt. 3Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'"

..

So , I am not the one you should be arguing with.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 09:14 PM (M7eqI)

243 242 Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 09:14 PM (M7eqI)

Old Testament God understood retribution and deterrence.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 26, 2017 09:18 PM (SzZnW)

244 Any significance to the fact that it's the First Lady who's ordering the removal?

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2017 08:05 PM (DlSwL)

Perhaps PDT has more important things to worry about than a fucking tree?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2017 09:19 PM (CoGpL)

245 Just think if Melania ordered that Michael Obama's personal historical shrine/garden--installed in as permanent fashion as could be--be removed and replaced.

Roundup, FTW. Leave it there, dead and withered.

I love symbolism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 26, 2017 09:21 PM (CoGpL)

246 Old Testament God understood retribution and deterrence.

Posted by: sven10077
..

We in the first world are comfortable.

We forget what our forbears were willing to do to place us where we are.

I believe that, sooner rather than later, we will remember. Vividly.

Posted by: TI -1030 at December 26, 2017 09:25 PM (M7eqI)

247 Word was that when Clinton and Gore dedicated "Grand Staircase Escalante" they had an entire stand of very old pines removed because they interfered with the optics of the event.

Posted by: geoffb at December 26, 2017 09:34 PM (zOpu5)

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