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Rep. Devin Nunes Explodes At DOJ Over Strzok; Threatens Contempt
Yes, it's time for anger, and action.
Byron York then notes a series of meetings and requests for information about Strzok, on October 11, October 31, November 20, November 29, and December 1. On none of these occasions did Rod Rosenstein or anyone from the DOJ or FBI disclose the reason for Strzok's demotion -- and Nunes was asking.
House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes has issued an angry demand to the FBI and Department of Justice to explain why they kept the committee in the dark over the reason Special Counsel Robert Mueller kicked a key supervising FBI agent off the Trump-Russia investigation. ... Word of the messages and the affair were news to Nunes, even though the committee had issued a subpoena that covered information about Strzok's demotion more than three months ago. The committee's broadly worded subpoena for information related to the so-called Trump dossier went to the FBI and DOJ on Aug. 24. In follow-up conversations on the scope of the subpoena, committee staff told the FBI and DOJ that it included information on the circumstances of Strzok's reassignment.
.... "By hiding from Congress, and from the American people, documented political bias by a key FBI head investigator for both the Russia collusion probe and the Clinton email investigation, the FBI and DOJ engaged in a willful attempt to thwart Congress' constitutional oversight responsibility," Nunes said in a statement Saturday afternoon. "This is part of a months-long pattern by the DOJ and FBI of stonewalling and obstructing this committee's oversight work, particularly oversight of their use of the Steele dossier. At this point, these agencies should be investigating themselves." ... Now, after this latest episode, it seems likely that leaders in Congress are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act.Congress should pass a resolution explicitly condemning Rod Rosenstein and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them -- making it much easier for Trump to fire them. Or at least putting that shot across the bow.
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Let's see some FBI elitists in jail getting the prison butt sex!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2017 12:32 PM (BtQd4)
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Meeeeee!
Meeeeee!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2017 12:32 PM (pNxlR)
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Go! Or I will taunt you again!
Posted by: Robert Mueller at December 05, 2017 12:33 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2017 12:33 PM (pNxlR)
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Now, after this latest episode, it seems likely that leaders in Congress
are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and
DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act.
Will they? I have my doubts. And if they DO "act", what can they do? What will come of it? Nothing.
are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and
DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act.
Will they? I have my doubts. And if they DO "act", what can they do? What will come of it? Nothing.
Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at December 05, 2017 12:33 PM (rP4OC)
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Words Words Words...I want ACTION ACTION ACTION
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:33 PM (5y11N)
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Nunes to Gowdy: "I'm skinnin' this cat, you just hold the tail."
Posted by: Zod at December 05, 2017 12:34 PM (Bdeb0)
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Congress should pass a resolution explicitly condemning Rod Rosenstein and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them
Not one Democrat will vote for them in either the House or the Senate. The all long ago traded Institutional Power for Party Power.
Not one Democrat will vote for them in either the House or the Senate. The all long ago traded Institutional Power for Party Power.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 12:34 PM (WbIyz)
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So we should expect a strongly worded letter!
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:35 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:35 PM (SapVv)
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Conyers retiring today; recommends son as replacement.
Voters say, "Sure! Why not?"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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Sounds kinda patriarchy to me.
Voters say, "Sure! Why not?"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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Sounds kinda patriarchy to me.
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 12:35 PM (8b+oT)
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"By hiding from Congress, and from the American people, documented
political bias by a key FBI head investigator for both the Russia
collusion probe and the Clinton email investigation, the FBI and DOJ
engaged in a willful attempt to thwart Congress' constitutional
oversight responsibility,"
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It's far worse than that anodyne description.
The FBI let a Democrat activist shape several important investigations, critical to election integrity and our system of government. Then they hid what they did. Then they lied about it. Then they stonewalled.
Nunes is complaining about the very last part, which I think is relatively minor.
political bias by a key FBI head investigator for both the Russia
collusion probe and the Clinton email investigation, the FBI and DOJ
engaged in a willful attempt to thwart Congress' constitutional
oversight responsibility,"
=============================
It's far worse than that anodyne description.
The FBI let a Democrat activist shape several important investigations, critical to election integrity and our system of government. Then they hid what they did. Then they lied about it. Then they stonewalled.
Nunes is complaining about the very last part, which I think is relatively minor.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (LISuA)
13
Fine, they put a motion forward to 'condemn' them. Assuming it passes, what then?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (fA1SL)
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House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes has issued an angry demand to the FBI and Department of Justice to explain why they kept the committee in the dark over the reason Special Counsel Robert Mueller kicked a key supervising FBI agent off the Trump-Russia investigation.
I make a lot of "angry demands," myself.
I never get any result, though.
Neither will Nunes.
Whatever the hell the Deep State has on old Recuse and Snooze, it must be yuuuuge.
I make a lot of "angry demands," myself.
I never get any result, though.
Neither will Nunes.
Whatever the hell the Deep State has on old Recuse and Snooze, it must be yuuuuge.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (kqsXK)
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>>>>Now, after this latest episode, it seems likely that leaders in Congress
are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and
DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act.
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.
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.They can cut of the funding for the FBI using the next continuing resolution. Pretty sure Trump would sign off on it.
are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and
DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act.
.
.
.
.They can cut of the funding for the FBI using the next continuing resolution. Pretty sure Trump would sign off on it.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (+Dllb)
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Conyers retiring today; recommends son as replacement.
But his nephew wants it too....Keep it all in the family
But his nephew wants it too....Keep it all in the family
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (O2RFr)
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I'm looking down AG Jeff Session's daily planner for today.....Cool!
Posted by: Mike Pitzler at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (fSf/G)
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As Dang and I noted in the last thread, why make martyrs out of Mueller and his team when they are busy destroying themselves with their corruption and incompetence?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (hLRSq)
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So is anything going to happen about this?
No?
Ok then.
So what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
No?
Ok then.
So what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (3I7wr)
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The Republicans control Congress and Trump controls the White House (and DOJ) but somehow nobody can get these agencies to do what they are required by law.
Somebody is going to have to rock the boat eventually and start firing people. Let them litigate it in court, it will take years to sort out.
Funny how Obama never had these issues.
Somebody is going to have to rock the boat eventually and start firing people. Let them litigate it in court, it will take years to sort out.
Funny how Obama never had these issues.
Posted by: Maritime at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (lKmt3)
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Congress should take this investigation over. If they don't want it, move on.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (sX1BW)
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Fuck the press - full steam ahead. Stop bitching about what they report on and what they don't report on and start doing shit. They'll eventually have to report on Hillary going to prison.
Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 12:38 PM (8b+oT)
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Congress should take this investigation over. If they don't want it, move on.
They've got their own "investigations" going
They've got their own "investigations" going
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:38 PM (O2RFr)
25
Congress should pass a resolution explicitly condemning Rod Rosenstein
and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them --
making it much easier for Trump to fire them. Or at least putting that
shot across the bow.
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I don't think we should be satisfied with firing people who should be in prison.
and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them --
making it much easier for Trump to fire them. Or at least putting that
shot across the bow.
---
I don't think we should be satisfied with firing people who should be in prison.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:38 PM (XQvuQ)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (W+vEI)
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I am so sick of this to the point that I am ready to ignore the rule of law like the democrats always do UNLESS they are prosecuting their political enemies. I want to see the DOJ cleaned out and Mueller shutdown and fired - all of his people. I want to see the pleas Mueller coerced set aside because this is all politics. It has nothing to do with justice. Flynn's family has been devastated financially over politics, not justice.
And I want to see democrats who broke the law like the Clinton Crime family prosecuted and jailed. If it means taking to the streets, so be it, but "this democrats above the rule of law and republicans are prosecuted for political crimes must stop."
And I want to see democrats who broke the law like the Clinton Crime family prosecuted and jailed. If it means taking to the streets, so be it, but "this democrats above the rule of law and republicans are prosecuted for political crimes must stop."
Posted by: Locke Common at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (fOsUr)
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Will this nullify any findings of those special teams doing the investigations? It seems like Flynn's indictment should be shredded up, because there appears to be some hinky stuff going on in the investigation.
Or is this like the liberal women who have to take abuse from Democrat men, because it's for the cause? It doesn't matter if it's illegal, it serves the Left's purpose, so we are going to keep moving forward.
Or is this like the liberal women who have to take abuse from Democrat men, because it's for the cause? It doesn't matter if it's illegal, it serves the Left's purpose, so we are going to keep moving forward.
Posted by: moki at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (V+V48)
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I just do not understand why Sessions is stonewalling all this. Surely his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests for information.
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (Enq6K)
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They should charge them with criminal contempt and dare Sessions to not act.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (mpXpK)
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It's not just DC critters that feel this way. My FIL is a cool guy, I like him a lot, we get along great....except when it comes to politics. He worked for the federal govt for 30 years and is now retired. And even though he was just a cog in the wheel, he's still deeply invested in keeping the deep state alive and well. He thinks Trump is the devil and any attempt to reduce the federal govt is LITERALLY worse than Hitler. He's convinced that Trump will take away his pension. It's crazy irrational thoughts from an otherwise smart man, but that's what we're dealing with.
And this shit is why Trump can't just wave a magic wand and drain the swamp. It's not just firing a few people at the top. It's millions of people across the land whose livelihood depends on keeping the swamp monster alive.
And this shit is why Trump can't just wave a magic wand and drain the swamp. It's not just firing a few people at the top. It's millions of people across the land whose livelihood depends on keeping the swamp monster alive.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (SapVv)
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We need Special Counsel Kurt Schlichter looking into all this BS.
Posted by: BuckIV at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (CLfqv)
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Let the fuckers keep discrediting themselves.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (LiyEm)
34
I'd include the sleepy AG in the condemnation
Posted by: CN at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (5gaNQ)
35
I'll give PDt credit for this: With all the crap swirling around him by a treatcherous resistance, he is not doing any "rose garden" strategy..He is forging ahead and getting things done. Bravo. He must have a will of steel
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (5y11N)
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Fine, they put a motion forward to 'condemn' them. Assuming it passes, what then?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (fA1SL)
-------------------------------The guys at the DOJ and FBI can just laugh at them. It's always worked for me.
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Fine, they put a motion forward to 'condemn' them. Assuming it passes, what then?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM (fA1SL)
-------------------------------The guys at the DOJ and FBI can just laugh at them. It's always worked for me.
Posted by: E.Holder at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (pMGkg)
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It boggles the mind how these agencies have the temerity to lie and stonewall congress this way.
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Eric Holder... at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (NgKpN)
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Well Feinstein says they've got this Obstruction charge all wrapped up so....
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (O2RFr)
40
Congress should take this investigation over. If they don't want it, move on.
They've got their own "investigations" going
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Get this, individual branches are not always the best investigator of shenanigans within their own branch.
They've got their own "investigations" going
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Get this, individual branches are not always the best investigator of shenanigans within their own branch.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (sX1BW)
41
Start arresting people for contempt of congress. Maybe some of the Fusion GPS fuckers.
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (8b+oT)
42
Heads on pikes.
Impalements.
Gibbets.
The rack.
The wheel.
The pear of anguish.
The Judas cradle.
The iron maiden.
Time to get medieval on their asses.
Impalements.
Gibbets.
The rack.
The wheel.
The pear of anguish.
The Judas cradle.
The iron maiden.
Time to get medieval on their asses.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (NWiLs)
43
Firing them isn't enough, perverting your oath of office to corrupt the DOJ and FBI should be a criminal offense under Rico. It's high time congress pass laws making what he's done a criminal offense. The stench coming off the halls of the FBI and DOJ is beyond what Ness fought against.
Posted by: Rose at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (30UCB)
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29 I just do not understand why Sessions is stonewalling all this. Surely his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests for information.
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (Enq6K)
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He's not stonewalling. He just hasn't woken up from his 10 month nap. Give the guy a break.
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (Enq6K)
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He's not stonewalling. He just hasn't woken up from his 10 month nap. Give the guy a break.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (SapVv)
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Harumph! Harumph! We must protect our phony baloney jobs.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (tbOMB)
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Rep. Nunes start stripping away their pensions.
"Any Federal employee that refuses to testify before any Congressional committee shall immediately be immediately be fired, forfeit all employment benefits, all pensions, and other job related perks."
"Any Federal employee that refuses to testify before any Congressional committee shall immediately be immediately be fired, forfeit all employment benefits, all pensions, and other job related perks."
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (QDvfw)
47
Basically, the same partisan democrats who made sure to un-document Hillary Clinton's felonies, and destroyed evidence, are now officially in charge of creating evidence against Trump.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (kCbAY)
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Conyers retiring today; recommends son as replacement.
***
Normal conversation with Democrat LIVs:
Me: So they convicted another Democrat for all sorts of terrible crimes
LIV: Yeah they all suck - we need someone new. Not the same old same old you know?
Me: I see that this new person to politics is running for that seat and he has a completely different approach to the issues.
LIV: You mean the Republican? What the hell man? He's like different and might change things!!!
Me: But all the Democrats you voted for ended up being crooks and you just said we need a change.
LIV: Not that kind of change! Anyway this Democrat is promising to not be a crook and unlike the last one he totally means it!
***
Normal conversation with Democrat LIVs:
Me: So they convicted another Democrat for all sorts of terrible crimes
LIV: Yeah they all suck - we need someone new. Not the same old same old you know?
Me: I see that this new person to politics is running for that seat and he has a completely different approach to the issues.
LIV: You mean the Republican? What the hell man? He's like different and might change things!!!
Me: But all the Democrats you voted for ended up being crooks and you just said we need a change.
LIV: Not that kind of change! Anyway this Democrat is promising to not be a crook and unlike the last one he totally means it!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (eO5CB)
51
Nunes previously threatened contempt in September. Are you going to bark all day, little doggy, or are you going to bite?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (yRgC6)
52
It boggles the mind how these agencies have the temerity to lie and stonewall congress this way.
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Why? Congress gave them all this power and money and will continue to do so.
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Why? Congress gave them all this power and money and will continue to do so.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (sX1BW)
53
And this shit is why Trump can't just wave a magic wand and drain the swamp. It's not just firing a few people at the top. It's millions of people across the land whose livelihood depends on keeping the swamp monster alive.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (SapVv)
There is no Deep State, you hysterical pants-wetting krazy konspiracy kook! Grow up and go bowling!
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (SapVv)
There is no Deep State, you hysterical pants-wetting krazy konspiracy kook! Grow up and go bowling!
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (Pqytn)
55
Uhhh.. excuse me for asking a stupid question.. but isn't the DoJ and FBI under the executive branch of government run by Donald J Trump?
Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (so+oy)
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48 nunes is good
may he continue to serve with integrity and honor
Remember when he went to the WH with info that was so bad he had to deliver it in person? i wonder what it was?
may he continue to serve with integrity and honor
Remember when he went to the WH with info that was so bad he had to deliver it in person? i wonder what it was?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (O2RFr)
57
No sooner had he announced plans to vacate his seat, however, than an
intra-family feud erupted into public view over who would take it over.
The embattled Michigan Democrat said on Tuesday that he wanted
his son, John Conyers III, to replace him when he departs. But earlier
in the morning, Conyers' nephew, Ian Conyers, said that he would be
seeking the seat.
Do these people think they are royalty?
intra-family feud erupted into public view over who would take it over.
The embattled Michigan Democrat said on Tuesday that he wanted
his son, John Conyers III, to replace him when he departs. But earlier
in the morning, Conyers' nephew, Ian Conyers, said that he would be
seeking the seat.
Do these people think they are royalty?Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (W+vEI)
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42
Heads on pikes.
Impalements.
Gibbets.
The rack.
The wheel.
The pear of anguish.
The Judas cradle.
The iron maiden.
Time to get medieval on their asses.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (NWiLs)
This. I can't really get all that worked up about a salty interview/PR, when this stuff has been going on for the last 8-10 years.
Heads on pikes.
Impalements.
Gibbets.
The rack.
The wheel.
The pear of anguish.
The Judas cradle.
The iron maiden.
Time to get medieval on their asses.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (NWiLs)
This. I can't really get all that worked up about a salty interview/PR, when this stuff has been going on for the last 8-10 years.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (tbOMB)
59
Rip Van Sessions
Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (eO5CB)
60
Weird.
Drudge links to a transcript of Morning Scrunt and Mike is convinced Trump and his family are "going to jail for the rest of their lives".
What in all that's holy makes her think anything like that? The transcript doesn't say. But she seems pretty certain, as does her douchebag boyfriend.
Drudge links to a transcript of Morning Scrunt and Mike is convinced Trump and his family are "going to jail for the rest of their lives".
What in all that's holy makes her think anything like that? The transcript doesn't say. But she seems pretty certain, as does her douchebag boyfriend.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (LISuA)
61
Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (so+oy)
To be fair, those Grasshopper cookies are pretty damn good.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (so+oy)
To be fair, those Grasshopper cookies are pretty damn good.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:42 PM (NWiLs)
62
Man, what a clusterfvck.
"Now, after this latest episode, it seems likely that leaders in Congress are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act."
Can we get a timeline on that action thing? Or a betting pool? Before or after Christmas? Don't they recess soon?
"Now, after this latest episode, it seems likely that leaders in Congress are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act."
Can we get a timeline on that action thing? Or a betting pool? Before or after Christmas? Don't they recess soon?
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (DZp0Z)
63
LIV: Not that kind of change! Anyway this Democrat is promising to not be a crook and unlike the last one he totally means it!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (eSx+E)
___
Just the tip, I promise.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:41 PM (eSx+E)
___
Just the tip, I promise.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (SapVv)
64
I just do not understand why Sessions is stonewalling all this. Surely
his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests
for information.
***
Whatever Sessions is being blackmailed over, and he *is* being blackmailed, is juicy enough that he will do whatever they want.
Of course if Roy Moore wins the Senate election after the Dems/Deep State through so much at him, I wonder if some of the cow'ed Republicans will stop being so afraid.
his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests
for information.
***
Whatever Sessions is being blackmailed over, and he *is* being blackmailed, is juicy enough that he will do whatever they want.
Of course if Roy Moore wins the Senate election after the Dems/Deep State through so much at him, I wonder if some of the cow'ed Republicans will stop being so afraid.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (eSx+E)
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37 It boggles the mind how these agencies have the temerity to lie and stonewall congress this way.
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (a0IVu)
What can Congress do?
We are once more on continuing Resolutions... so power of the purse is out.
Contempt is toothless...
Impeach??? You can't impeach a Federal Employee, only Federal appointed or elected Officers.... so Congress can't even FIRE them...
And we see time and again... where folks like Lois Lerner, or the Clinton Cabal... lie and cheat and get away with it...
Its the old canard... if you fear the Government, its a tyranny... if the Government fears the people... you have freedom...
Guess where we are...
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2017 12:40 PM (a0IVu)
What can Congress do?
We are once more on continuing Resolutions... so power of the purse is out.
Contempt is toothless...
Impeach??? You can't impeach a Federal Employee, only Federal appointed or elected Officers.... so Congress can't even FIRE them...
And we see time and again... where folks like Lois Lerner, or the Clinton Cabal... lie and cheat and get away with it...
Its the old canard... if you fear the Government, its a tyranny... if the Government fears the people... you have freedom...
Guess where we are...
Posted by: Eric Holder... at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (NgKpN)
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It's a positive that Strzok was the point on so many violations of ordinary DOJ/FBI procedure (e.g. grants of immunity, destroying hard drives). This will come out in the OIG report. (FFS, you could write a first draft with what's in the public domain).
Strzok couldn't have done this without Comey/McCabe letting it happen. Lynch has exposure too, which will give the tarmac visit context.
Even more may come out. But there's enough with what's highly likely to come out.
Strzok got outed because Mueller and others want to create distance, but it won't work.
Strzok couldn't have done this without Comey/McCabe letting it happen. Lynch has exposure too, which will give the tarmac visit context.
Even more may come out. But there's enough with what's highly likely to come out.
Strzok got outed because Mueller and others want to create distance, but it won't work.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (cAXIk)
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Will they? I have my doubts. And if they DO "act", what can they do? What will come of it? Nothing.
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2018 is an election year, so surely the allegedly gop controlled congress will do something to justify anyone voting for the incumbents.
Yes, that's a joke.
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As Dang and I noted in the last thread, why make martyrs out of Mueller
and his team when they are busy destroying themselves with their
corruption and incompetence?
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Because everyone else who considers the progressive overthrow of America to be a thing worth pursuing needs to have some sliver of doubt that they might get consequences imposed on them rather than their silly utopia.
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2018 is an election year, so surely the allegedly gop controlled congress will do something to justify anyone voting for the incumbents.
Yes, that's a joke.
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As Dang and I noted in the last thread, why make martyrs out of Mueller
and his team when they are busy destroying themselves with their
corruption and incompetence?
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Because everyone else who considers the progressive overthrow of America to be a thing worth pursuing needs to have some sliver of doubt that they might get consequences imposed on them rather than their silly utopia.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (XQvuQ)
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Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisis office said Tuesday that President Donald Trump had called him to inform him that the American administration is preparing to take a decision whether to move the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
Al-Sisi emphasized that the Egyptian line remains that the legal status quo has to be preserved in Jerusalem, adding that actions had to be taken that would avoid complicating the situation in the region by avoiding decision that threaten to decrease the chances of peace in the Middle East.
Al-Sisi emphasized that the Egyptian line remains that the legal status quo has to be preserved in Jerusalem, adding that actions had to be taken that would avoid complicating the situation in the region by avoiding decision that threaten to decrease the chances of peace in the Middle East.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (5y11N)
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Where is the humor impaired autistic troll?
Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (eO5CB)
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>>"Any Federal employee that refuses to testify before any Congressional
committee shall immediately be immediately be fired, forfeit all
employment benefits, all pensions, and other job related perks."
I like the way you think, Anna Puma!!
committee shall immediately be immediately be fired, forfeit all
employment benefits, all pensions, and other job related perks."
I like the way you think, Anna Puma!!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (W+vEI)
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Its the old canard... if you fear the Government, its a tyranny... if the Government fears the people... you have freedom...
Call me "V."
Call me "V."
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (sX1BW)
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>>Uhhh.. excuse me for asking a stupid question.. but isn't the DoJ and FBI under the executive branch of government run by Donald J Trump?
>>Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Recused. Is there anyone on the planet who doesn't know that Sessions is not involved in any way with this investigation and hasn't been since the start?
That's why Rod Rosenstein is the DOJ official being threatened with a contempt citation and not Sessions.
>>Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Recused. Is there anyone on the planet who doesn't know that Sessions is not involved in any way with this investigation and hasn't been since the start?
That's why Rod Rosenstein is the DOJ official being threatened with a contempt citation and not Sessions.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
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The FBI let a Democrat activist shape several
important investigations, critical to election integrity and our system
of government. Then they hid what they did. Then they lied about it.
Then they stonewalled.
Nunes is complaining about the very last part, which I think is relatively minor.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM
Szrkrptzklpqblah shaped nothing. He carried out orders. Szrkrptzklpqblah was Comey and McCabe's monkey and Comey and McCabe were Obama's monkeys. He was promoted, praised, assigned, puffed up, etc because he was a monkey. If we ever hear him say anything (probably pleading the Fifth) he will sound like a retard. He is nothing but a placed and favored bully and henchman.
important investigations, critical to election integrity and our system
of government. Then they hid what they did. Then they lied about it.
Then they stonewalled.
Nunes is complaining about the very last part, which I think is relatively minor.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 12:36 PM
Szrkrptzklpqblah shaped nothing. He carried out orders. Szrkrptzklpqblah was Comey and McCabe's monkey and Comey and McCabe were Obama's monkeys. He was promoted, praised, assigned, puffed up, etc because he was a monkey. If we ever hear him say anything (probably pleading the Fifth) he will sound like a retard. He is nothing but a placed and favored bully and henchman.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (LfJIn)
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Strzok while the iron is hot.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (IqV8l)
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>>>>So is anything going to happen about this?
No?
Ok then.
So
what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump
should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
.
.
.We ignore it, if that happens. Trump won't be impeached even if meuller makes some obstruction of justice $hit up.
No?
Ok then.
So
what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump
should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
.
.
.We ignore it, if that happens. Trump won't be impeached even if meuller makes some obstruction of justice $hit up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (+Dllb)
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I like that Trump informed Egypt before telling any Dems. LOL
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (SapVv)
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Al-Sisi emphasized that the Egyptian line remains that the legal status quo has to be preserved in Jerusalem, adding that actions had to be taken that would avoid complicating the situation in the region by avoiding decision that threaten to decrease the chances of peace in the Middle East.
Jordan is against it also... Wonder about Saudi Arabia?
Jordan is against it also... Wonder about Saudi Arabia?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (O2RFr)
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Strzok got outed because Mueller and others want to create distance, but it won't work.
Strzok (when the walls fell) got outted because the inspector general investigation was on it.
Strzok (when the walls fell) got outted because the inspector general investigation was on it.
Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (eO5CB)
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May the fleas of a thousand camels infest Strzok's jock.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (NWiLs)
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Threatens? See, this is the bullshit I commented on about Trey Gowdy. Stop the fucking threats and just do it, otherwise you'll lose the House and Senate, and all this will be swept under the rug again.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (2X7pN)
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Strzok (when the walls fell) got outted because the inspector general investigation was on it.
Exactly... We would never have known about it otherwise
Exactly... We would never have known about it otherwise
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:46 PM (O2RFr)
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Let the fuckers keep discrediting themselves.
Posted by: steevy
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This. They're still not sure what to do with a media that's not completely covering for their asses. Too many leaks of information for them to handle. A decade or two ago we never would have heard of FBI "very special" agent Strzok.
Posted by: steevy
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This. They're still not sure what to do with a media that's not completely covering for their asses. Too many leaks of information for them to handle. A decade or two ago we never would have heard of FBI "very special" agent Strzok.
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 12:46 PM (8b+oT)
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81 Threatens? See, this is the bullshit I commented on about Trey Gowdy. Stop the fucking threats and just do it, otherwise you'll lose the House and Senate, and all this will be swept under the rug again.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (2X7pN)
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Lose the Senate? You mean I won't have to do any work?
SIGN ME UP!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (2X7pN)
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Lose the Senate? You mean I won't have to do any work?
SIGN ME UP!
Posted by: McTurtle at December 05, 2017 12:46 PM (SapVv)
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So what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (eSx+E)
Impeached for firing someone who lies to him? That's going to be a hard sell when he has the authority to fire the FBI director at anytime.
So what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:37 PM (eSx+E)
Impeached for firing someone who lies to him? That's going to be a hard sell when he has the authority to fire the FBI director at anytime.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 12:46 PM (hLRSq)
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Recused. Is there anyone on the planet who doesn't know that Sessions is not involved in any way with this investigation and hasn't been since the start?
That's why Rod Rosenstein is the DOJ official being threatened with a contempt citation and not Sessions.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
Again...how in the hell does his recusal not allow him to provide information requested by congress? I do not understand that.
That's why Rod Rosenstein is the DOJ official being threatened with a contempt citation and not Sessions.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
Again...how in the hell does his recusal not allow him to provide information requested by congress? I do not understand that.
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:46 PM (Enq6K)
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Strzok got outed because the DoJ IG did his job. Once the DoJ emails/memos were released by the IG, SOME Strzok stuff was released by the FBI. The House of Representatives, who are supposed to represent WE THE PEOPLE, demand ALL of the documents.
Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2017 12:46 PM (Pqytn)
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Drudge links to a transcript of Morning Scrunt and Mike is convinced
Trump and his family are "going to jail for the rest of their lives".
***
Because this has nothing to do with laws, guilt, or innocence.
The goal of the Mueller inquisition is to remove Trump and anyone else viewed as a danger to the uniparty.
His final decision was rendered before he was chosen. The only question is whether he can make up enough things to get Congress to act on his decision.
One interesting marker on this - if he continues waiting until the 2018 elections it means he knows he hasn't done a good enough job. He will then wait until shortly before those elections to drop an October Surprise - ideally enough to swing Congress to the Uniparty by enough to impeach Trump.
Drudge links to a transcript of Morning Scrunt and Mike is convinced
Trump and his family are "going to jail for the rest of their lives".
***
Because this has nothing to do with laws, guilt, or innocence.
The goal of the Mueller inquisition is to remove Trump and anyone else viewed as a danger to the uniparty.
His final decision was rendered before he was chosen. The only question is whether he can make up enough things to get Congress to act on his decision.
One interesting marker on this - if he continues waiting until the 2018 elections it means he knows he hasn't done a good enough job. He will then wait until shortly before those elections to drop an October Surprise - ideally enough to swing Congress to the Uniparty by enough to impeach Trump.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (eSx+E)
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Where is the humor impaired autistic troll?
Posted by: dagny
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You're going to have to narrow that down a bit.
Posted by: dagny
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You're going to have to narrow that down a bit.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (7ZVPa)
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That's why Rod Rosenstein is the DOJ official being threatened with a contempt citation and not Sessions.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM
Rosenstein is another little apparatchik puffed up with the "honest man and fine lawyer" crap to place them where they need them. Weasel.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM
Rosenstein is another little apparatchik puffed up with the "honest man and fine lawyer" crap to place them where they need them. Weasel.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (LfJIn)
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Congress should pass a resolution cutting the FBI budget 90%
Posted by: x at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (nFwvY)
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Jordan is against it also... Wonder about Saudi Arabia?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (O2RFr)
Against it. ALL the Arab Countries and organizations and Yada Yada Yada will be against it. So will the EU and the UN.
But that is not the issue. The issue is how they frame thei opposition and what, if any, concrete actions they take. But the muzzies in the street will go bat shit crazy since they have been spoon fed anti-israel crap from birth. As I said there will be blood in the streets
Posted by: It's me donna at December 05, 2017 12:45 PM (O2RFr)
Against it. ALL the Arab Countries and organizations and Yada Yada Yada will be against it. So will the EU and the UN.
But that is not the issue. The issue is how they frame thei opposition and what, if any, concrete actions they take. But the muzzies in the street will go bat shit crazy since they have been spoon fed anti-israel crap from birth. As I said there will be blood in the streets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (5y11N)
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>>>>Rep. Nunes start stripping away their pensions.
"Any Federal
employee that refuses to testify before any Congressional committee
shall immediately be immediately be fired, forfeit all employment
benefits, all pensions, and other job related perks."
.
.
.Congress can write that law in 5 minutes and pass it off to the Senate. They may or may not pass it but if they do I guarantee you Trump would sign it in a minute.
Then it would go to that Judge in Hawaii for review and he would tell us it's Unconstitutional.
"Any Federal
employee that refuses to testify before any Congressional committee
shall immediately be immediately be fired, forfeit all employment
benefits, all pensions, and other job related perks."
.
.
.Congress can write that law in 5 minutes and pass it off to the Senate. They may or may not pass it but if they do I guarantee you Trump would sign it in a minute.
Then it would go to that Judge in Hawaii for review and he would tell us it's Unconstitutional.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 05, 2017 12:48 PM (+Dllb)
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Uhhh.. excuse me for asking a stupid question.. but isn't the DoJ and FBI under the executive branch of government run by Donald J Trump?
Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
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That's a big reason why RUSSIA! came about.
Any effort to remove these people will be "obstruction of justice". Remember that's why Comey was fired and what started most of this. This was the Deep State's shot across the bow to protect their jobs.
I say after the tax cut is signed into law, just start firing people en masse including Mueller.
The same people will be shrieking and the same people that supported Trump will still be there for him.
Where the fuck is Sessions? I know he has a lot of Keebler cookies to make, but geeeez!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
_________
That's a big reason why RUSSIA! came about.
Any effort to remove these people will be "obstruction of justice". Remember that's why Comey was fired and what started most of this. This was the Deep State's shot across the bow to protect their jobs.
I say after the tax cut is signed into law, just start firing people en masse including Mueller.
The same people will be shrieking and the same people that supported Trump will still be there for him.
Posted by: Maritime at December 05, 2017 12:48 PM (lKmt3)
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One interesting marker on this - if he continues waiting until the 2018 elections it means he knows he hasn't done a good enough job. He will then wait until shortly before those elections to drop an October Surprise - ideally enough to swing Congress to the Uniparty by enough to impeach Trump.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (eSx+E)
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This is what was interesting to me about Flynn. I was sure they'd wait until well into 2018 to pull that.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (eSx+E)
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This is what was interesting to me about Flynn. I was sure they'd wait until well into 2018 to pull that.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:48 PM (SapVv)
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One interesting marker on this - if he continues waiting until the 2018 elections it means he knows he hasn't done a good enough job. He will then wait until shortly before those elections to drop an October Surprise - ideally enough to swing Congress to the Uniparty by enough to impeach Trump.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (eSx+E)
Or his bias will bo so obvious it will massively swing the Election our way
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (eSx+E)
Or his bias will bo so obvious it will massively swing the Election our way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (5y11N)
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*yawn!
wake me when nunes actually does something.
don't forget that he 'recused' himself over the Trump Tower Espionage and that completely fell off the radar
wake me when nunes actually does something.
don't forget that he 'recused' himself over the Trump Tower Espionage and that completely fell off the radar
Posted by: Hobbiehawk at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (Qot/z)
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The whole "Arab street" thing is a myth. I don't think anyone "on the street" in Saudia Arabia, for example, really cares what the official capital of Israel is.
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (WonQS)
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What can Congress do?
***
What should it do? But together a budget that specifically zeros out funding for the investigation until Mueller reports to the satisfaction of congress and congress believes that there is merit in continuing it.
That is the way this is supposed to work. But they will not do so.
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What should it do? But together a budget that specifically zeros out funding for the investigation until Mueller reports to the satisfaction of congress and congress believes that there is merit in continuing it.
That is the way this is supposed to work. But they will not do so.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (eSx+E)
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>>Exactly... We would never have known about it otherwise
I'll go further. It's likely we never would know any of it or have a real shot of reopening a case against Hillary had this investigation not been done.
Yea, it's a witch hunt and has been since Day 1. That's kind of the point. While the Dems have been going off on their merry witch hunt they have been unwittingly exposing all the corruption that occurred last year and not only made it relevant but made it possible to re-investigate while being able to justify any investigation over claims of a witch hunt.
I'll go further. It's likely we never would know any of it or have a real shot of reopening a case against Hillary had this investigation not been done.
Yea, it's a witch hunt and has been since Day 1. That's kind of the point. While the Dems have been going off on their merry witch hunt they have been unwittingly exposing all the corruption that occurred last year and not only made it relevant but made it possible to re-investigate while being able to justify any investigation over claims of a witch hunt.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (/tuJf)
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If the GOP were smart - I know, I know - 2018 would be framed as "vote for us" or Trump gets impeached. There would be no better motivation to get the GOP base out to vote.
But instead 2018 will be framed as "vote for us cuz, you know, stuff".
But instead 2018 will be framed as "vote for us cuz, you know, stuff".
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (SapVv)
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The whole "Arab street" thing is a myth. I don't think anyone "on the street" in Saudia Arabia, for example, really cares what the official capital of Israel is.
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (WonQS)
yeah? History would indicate otherwise. Not that I care. I am in favor of taking this action.
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (WonQS)
yeah? History would indicate otherwise. Not that I care. I am in favor of taking this action.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (5y11N)
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This is the first piece of news about the Mueller's mad witch hunt that actually has me feeling optimistic, but I fear Nunes won't have enough support in Congress to actually put teeth to this threat.
And yet, hope springs eternal...
And yet, hope springs eternal...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (6JL3d)
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I just do not understand why Sessions is stonewalling all this. Surely his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests for information.
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (Enq6K)
I don't get it either! All of this stonewalling makes Mueller's investigation look shady, like he has something to hide!
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (Enq6K)
I don't get it either! All of this stonewalling makes Mueller's investigation look shady, like he has something to hide!
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (hLRSq)
105
The FBI is not tarnished. They're turned.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (Pd0Uc)
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Congress should pass a resolution explicitly condemning Rod Rosenstein and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them -- making it much easier for Trump to fire them.
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Yes. That is what they would do if they were watching Trump's back. But UNIPARTY.
This is the coup. They think the can jury rig a lawfare based coup and get rid of trump. They think with Trump gone, they can cow Pence and things will go back to normal.
The purpose of the coup is twofold. Get rid of trump. But more importantly . . .
It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president, you will UPSET us.
==========
Yes. That is what they would do if they were watching Trump's back. But UNIPARTY.
This is the coup. They think the can jury rig a lawfare based coup and get rid of trump. They think with Trump gone, they can cow Pence and things will go back to normal.
The purpose of the coup is twofold. Get rid of trump. But more importantly . . .
It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president, you will UPSET us.
Posted by: Melania at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (FPW+K)
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Abbas urges Pope, Putin, Macron to stop Trumps Israel embassy announcement
LOL, Now THAT smells of desperation
LOL, Now THAT smells of desperation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (5y11N)
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102 The whole "Arab street" thing is a myth. I don't think anyone "on the street" in Saudia Arabia, for example, really cares what the official capital of Israel is.
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (WonQS)
yeah? History would indicate otherwise. Not that I care. I am in favor of taking this action.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (5y11N)
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History has never really asked the man on the street. Its what the offical govt of Saudi Arabia thinks. I agree that Joe Ahmed Shome on the street of Ryiad(sp) doesn't give a fuck about Israel or the Palestinians
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM (WonQS)
yeah? History would indicate otherwise. Not that I care. I am in favor of taking this action.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (5y11N)
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History has never really asked the man on the street. Its what the offical govt of Saudi Arabia thinks. I agree that Joe Ahmed Shome on the street of Ryiad(sp) doesn't give a fuck about Israel or the Palestinians
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (SapVv)
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1
Let's see some FBI elitists in jail getting the prison butt sex!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2017 12:32 PM
I'd rather see them in Seagoville pushing a lawnmower at 3 PM in August. This crew would drop dead.
Let's see some FBI elitists in jail getting the prison butt sex!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2017 12:32 PM
I'd rather see them in Seagoville pushing a lawnmower at 3 PM in August. This crew would drop dead.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (LfJIn)
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Of course, there are people (the insane left) who blame this on Trump. He is the culprit and if HRC was Prez none of this would be happening.
I'll agree none of this would be happening...the corruption train would have continued. The swamp would not be drained. The gods of the city would continue to reign.
But my guess is their rage blinds them to this fact. Their mass hysteria & incoherent rage means Trump is corrupt and these others are the victims.
That's their story, and they are sticking to it.
I'll agree none of this would be happening...the corruption train would have continued. The swamp would not be drained. The gods of the city would continue to reign.
But my guess is their rage blinds them to this fact. Their mass hysteria & incoherent rage means Trump is corrupt and these others are the victims.
That's their story, and they are sticking to it.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (DZp0Z)
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106
Congress should pass a resolution explicitly condemning Rod Rosenstein and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them -- making it much easier for Trump to fire them.
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Yes. That is what they would do if they were watching Trump's back. But UNIPARTY.
This is the coup. They think the can jury rig a lawfare based coup and get rid of trump. They think with Trump gone, they can cow Pence and things will go back to normal.
The purpose of the coup is twofold. Get rid of trump. But more importantly . . .
It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president, you will UPSET us.
Posted by: Melania at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (FPW+K)
But this is the GOPe we are talking about, Trump having demolished 15+ of their lackeys handily. So I expect it to fail in grand fashion.
Congress should pass a resolution explicitly condemning Rod Rosenstein and several other DOJ and FBI officials who have been thwarting them -- making it much easier for Trump to fire them.
==========
Yes. That is what they would do if they were watching Trump's back. But UNIPARTY.
This is the coup. They think the can jury rig a lawfare based coup and get rid of trump. They think with Trump gone, they can cow Pence and things will go back to normal.
The purpose of the coup is twofold. Get rid of trump. But more importantly . . .
It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president, you will UPSET us.
Posted by: Melania at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (FPW+K)
But this is the GOPe we are talking about, Trump having demolished 15+ of their lackeys handily. So I expect it to fail in grand fashion.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 05, 2017 12:53 PM (tbOMB)
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The exposure of Strzok is "the game is up" moment.
Any calls for Mueller to resign will be to forestall a *real* investigation of the DoJ and FBI... and the undoing of the Deep State.
Any calls for Mueller to resign will be to forestall a *real* investigation of the DoJ and FBI... and the undoing of the Deep State.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 05, 2017 12:53 PM (W+kMI)
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Bonus points to whoever 1st links this on a tablet in Congress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M
Posted by: DaveA at December 05, 2017 12:53 PM (FhXTo)
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It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a
president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president,
you will UPSET us.
***
Yep.
Something odd happened in American politics in the mid to late 90s where the Dems and the Reps became indistinguishable in congress.
I think the core steps were the destruction of Newt Gingrich and the Deep State's knowledge of Hastert's crimes. By turning the Rep Speaker of the House they were able to pull the Rep's into the uniparty...
president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president,
you will UPSET us.
***
Yep.
Something odd happened in American politics in the mid to late 90s where the Dems and the Reps became indistinguishable in congress.
I think the core steps were the destruction of Newt Gingrich and the Deep State's knowledge of Hastert's crimes. By turning the Rep Speaker of the House they were able to pull the Rep's into the uniparty...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (eSx+E)
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Brother Maynard, Bring Up the Sternly Worded Letter!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (oVJmc)
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No consequences = no compliance.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (RD7QR)
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Well time to quit procrastinating and go wrap presents....see ya in a week. 
Posted by: Tami at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (Enq6K)
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If the GOP were smart - I know, I know - 2018 would be framed as "vote
for us" or Trump gets impeached. There would be no better motivation to
get the GOP base out to vote.
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That'll be a good slogan for whoever Bannon sends against the incumbents.
for us" or Trump gets impeached. There would be no better motivation to
get the GOP base out to vote.
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That'll be a good slogan for whoever Bannon sends against the incumbents.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (XQvuQ)
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History has never really asked the man on the street. Its what the offical govt of Saudi Arabia thinks. I agree that Joe Ahmed Shome on the street of Ryiad(sp) doesn't give a fuck about Israel or the Palestinians
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (SapVv)
No not really. Most of them likely could not pick Israel out on a map and surely not Jerusalem, but to keep their "people" in check and subservient to a Dictator they must create a bigger and worse enemy. And that enemy is the Infidel and more specifically the Jew and Israel
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (SapVv)
No not really. Most of them likely could not pick Israel out on a map and surely not Jerusalem, but to keep their "people" in check and subservient to a Dictator they must create a bigger and worse enemy. And that enemy is the Infidel and more specifically the Jew and Israel
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (5y11N)
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Has Grossly O'Besity been visited by the secret service yet or are they as compromised as the FBI?
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (y7DUB)
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Congress could do some nasty things in the CR with DoJ funding.
Posted by: Jean at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (n4Zvf)
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The purpose of the coup is twofold. Get rid of trump. But more importantly . . .
It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president, you will UPSET us.
Posted by: Melania at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (FPW+K)
Not only upset them, but cause them to do everything in their power to make sure he does not succeed. They'll still do enough to retain their own position, maybe.
It is to tell the people of the United States that they can only elect a president off of the approved menu. If you special order a president, you will UPSET us.
Posted by: Melania at December 05, 2017 12:51 PM (FPW+K)
Not only upset them, but cause them to do everything in their power to make sure he does not succeed. They'll still do enough to retain their own position, maybe.
Posted by: Acme Office Sex Dungeon Outfitters at December 05, 2017 12:54 PM (ajiE5)
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??Again...how in the hell does his recusal not allow him to provide information requested by congress? I do not understand that.
Because for the purposes of anything to do with this investigation Rosenstein is the man in charge at DOJ. Sessions has no control over it and if the law is really being followed he isn't even being briefed on what is going on day to day.
In a way, what is going on is very analogous to a complex perjury trap. And the Dems feel right into it.
THe idiot who thought it would be a good idea to involve the operator who rigged the tesitmonies of Huma, Cheryl and Hillary, was the principle who ran the entire Hillary email investigation, who softened the words in Comey's speech thereby removing legal culpability, who was the interface to Fusion for the Russia dossier and who sandbagged Flynn into a perjury trap, into this investigation must shitting his pants right now.
This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
Because for the purposes of anything to do with this investigation Rosenstein is the man in charge at DOJ. Sessions has no control over it and if the law is really being followed he isn't even being briefed on what is going on day to day.
In a way, what is going on is very analogous to a complex perjury trap. And the Dems feel right into it.
THe idiot who thought it would be a good idea to involve the operator who rigged the tesitmonies of Huma, Cheryl and Hillary, was the principle who ran the entire Hillary email investigation, who softened the words in Comey's speech thereby removing legal culpability, who was the interface to Fusion for the Russia dossier and who sandbagged Flynn into a perjury trap, into this investigation must shitting his pants right now.
This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
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yeah? History would indicate otherwise. Not that I care.
I am in favor of taking this action.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (5y11N)
I don't know if I was clear. Much of the objection to doing the right thing was the fear of the reaction of "the Arab Street."
I really don't think the Arabs care that much. Pakistanis (who are not Arab) might go burn some US flags but we call that Tuesday.
The Arab Street was always the thing the governments and do gooders would raise for why we would have to do a disservice to Israel.
Bah. No such thing.
I am in favor of taking this action.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:50 PM (5y11N)
I don't know if I was clear. Much of the objection to doing the right thing was the fear of the reaction of "the Arab Street."
I really don't think the Arabs care that much. Pakistanis (who are not Arab) might go burn some US flags but we call that Tuesday.
The Arab Street was always the thing the governments and do gooders would raise for why we would have to do a disservice to Israel.
Bah. No such thing.
Posted by: blaster at December 05, 2017 12:55 PM (WonQS)
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>>The exposure of Strzok is "the game is up" moment.
>>Any calls for Mueller to resign will be to forestall a *real* investigation of the DoJ and FBI... and the undoing of the Deep State.
Winner, winner.
>>Any calls for Mueller to resign will be to forestall a *real* investigation of the DoJ and FBI... and the undoing of the Deep State.
Winner, winner.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:56 PM (/tuJf)
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Jerusalem Post Breaking News
MERETZ LEADER ZEHAVA GAL-ON WARNS AGAINST EMBASSY MOVE
BY GIL HOFFMAN DECEMBER 5, 2017 19:47
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Breaking news
Breaking news. (photo credit: JPOST STAFF)
Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On warned US President Donald Trump that moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the entire region. She warned that such a unilateral move could distance peace.
"Jerusalem is the Israeli capital and will continue to be with or without the US embassy," Gal-On said. "Moving the embassy could serve Netanyahu but could brig about an unnecessary explosion."
The left wing in Israel is as disgusting as it is here.
MERETZ LEADER ZEHAVA GAL-ON WARNS AGAINST EMBASSY MOVE
BY GIL HOFFMAN DECEMBER 5, 2017 19:47
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Breaking news
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Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On warned US President Donald Trump that moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the entire region. She warned that such a unilateral move could distance peace.
"Jerusalem is the Israeli capital and will continue to be with or without the US embassy," Gal-On said. "Moving the embassy could serve Netanyahu but could brig about an unnecessary explosion."
The left wing in Israel is as disgusting as it is here.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:56 PM (5y11N)
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So what are we going to do when Mueller officially reports that Trump
should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
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No criminal case to be found?
Well, then, that's just his fucking opinion, isn't it. So talk to the hand Mueller.
should be impeached because he fired Comey? Because that *will* happen.
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No criminal case to be found?
Well, then, that's just his fucking opinion, isn't it. So talk to the hand Mueller.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (LISuA)
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But this is the GOPe we are talking about, Trump having demolished 15+
of their lackeys handily. So I expect it to fail in grand fashion.
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They couldn't even manage to take out a senate candidate with the traditional 'live girl' scam.
of their lackeys handily. So I expect it to fail in grand fashion.
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They couldn't even manage to take out a senate candidate with the traditional 'live girl' scam.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (XQvuQ)
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This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
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Eh, I've heard that before. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I see no reason to play all these games. Trump is the Executive Branch. Mueller ultimately reports to him, not Rosenstein. Enough has been exposed. Enough time has passed. Fire him and let the fireworks begin.
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Eh, I've heard that before. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I see no reason to play all these games. Trump is the Executive Branch. Mueller ultimately reports to him, not Rosenstein. Enough has been exposed. Enough time has passed. Fire him and let the fireworks begin.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (sX1BW)
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As usual, the Republicans are way behind the curve. Wray, Rosenstein, McCabe, and Strzok all should have been gone months ago.
Posted by: Boris at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (TZXEx)
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123
??Again...how in the hell does his recusal not allow him to provide information requested by congress? I do not understand that.
Because for the purposes of anything to do with this investigation Rosenstein is the man in charge at DOJ. Sessions has no control over it and if the law is really being followed he isn't even being briefed on what is going on day to day.
In a way, what is going on is very analogous to a complex perjury trap. And the Dems feel right into it.
THe idiot who thought it would be a good idea to involve the operator who rigged the tesitmonies of Huma, Cheryl and Hillary, was the principle who ran the entire Hillary email investigation, who softened the words in Comey's speech thereby removing legal culpability, who was the interface to Fusion for the Russia dossier and who sandbagged Flynn into a perjury trap, into this investigation must shitting his pants right now.
This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
If recent history is any guide, yes. I still chuckle over the 3am obama wiretapping tweet, which - after much garment rending and pearl clutching - revealed so much of the dems dirty laundry, in the final analysis.
??Again...how in the hell does his recusal not allow him to provide information requested by congress? I do not understand that.
Because for the purposes of anything to do with this investigation Rosenstein is the man in charge at DOJ. Sessions has no control over it and if the law is really being followed he isn't even being briefed on what is going on day to day.
In a way, what is going on is very analogous to a complex perjury trap. And the Dems feel right into it.
THe idiot who thought it would be a good idea to involve the operator who rigged the tesitmonies of Huma, Cheryl and Hillary, was the principle who ran the entire Hillary email investigation, who softened the words in Comey's speech thereby removing legal culpability, who was the interface to Fusion for the Russia dossier and who sandbagged Flynn into a perjury trap, into this investigation must shitting his pants right now.
This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
If recent history is any guide, yes. I still chuckle over the 3am obama wiretapping tweet, which - after much garment rending and pearl clutching - revealed so much of the dems dirty laundry, in the final analysis.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (tbOMB)
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Morning Scrunt and Mike is convinced Trump and his family are "going to jail for the rest of their lives.
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Can someone explain to me how Baron Trump is going to jail for the rest of his life?
It has been fashionable to put raving lunatics on television for years now (reality TV), but clearly to put them on a "news" program would tend to undercut the credibility of your brand - No?
The only way his family gets punished is if there is a communist revolution and they are executed like the Czar's family. Cause that's how commies roll.
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Can someone explain to me how Baron Trump is going to jail for the rest of his life?
It has been fashionable to put raving lunatics on television for years now (reality TV), but clearly to put them on a "news" program would tend to undercut the credibility of your brand - No?
The only way his family gets punished is if there is a communist revolution and they are executed like the Czar's family. Cause that's how commies roll.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (UtxsX)
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107 Abbas urges Pope, Putin, Macron to stop Trumps Israel embassy announcement
LOL, Now THAT smells of desperation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (5y11N)
Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
LOL, Now THAT smells of desperation
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:52 PM (5y11N)
Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
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Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On warned US President Donald Trump that
moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the
entire region. She warned that such a unilateral move could distance
peace.
"Jerusalem is the Israeli capital and will continue to be with or
without the US embassy," Gal-On said. "Moving the embassy could serve
Netanyahu but could brig about an unnecessary explosion."
The left wing in Israel is as disgusting as it is here.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:56 PM (5y11N)
It's a case study in insanity, how they can be so divorced from reality living right in the middle of Islam's perpetual jihad.
moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the
entire region. She warned that such a unilateral move could distance
peace.
"Jerusalem is the Israeli capital and will continue to be with or
without the US embassy," Gal-On said. "Moving the embassy could serve
Netanyahu but could brig about an unnecessary explosion."
The left wing in Israel is as disgusting as it is here.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:56 PM (5y11N)
It's a case study in insanity, how they can be so divorced from reality living right in the middle of Islam's perpetual jihad.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (6JL3d)
135
Serious question - why are any of these "public" "servants" at the FBI and DOJ still collecting very hefty paychecks from the Fed.GOV?
I'm frankly of the mind now that rather than fire Mueller and his Kangaroo Kourt they should shine the white-hot spotlight on every single person involved with the witch-hunt until they all quit on their own or have special prosecutors of their own - including the "public" "servants" at the FBI and DOJ.
I'm frankly of the mind now that rather than fire Mueller and his Kangaroo Kourt they should shine the white-hot spotlight on every single person involved with the witch-hunt until they all quit on their own or have special prosecutors of their own - including the "public" "servants" at the FBI and DOJ.
Posted by: DocJ at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (NYS7S)
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Yea, it's a witch hunt and has been since Day 1.
That's kind of the point. While the Dems have been going off on their
merry witch hunt they have been unwittingly exposing all the corruption
that occurred last year and not only made it relevant but made it
possible to re-investigate while being able to justify any investigation
over claims of a witch hunt.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM
These are Harvard lawyers. The most special geniuses the world has ever seen. And they keep sticking their shoes up their own asses. Now they are stuck in Mueller's too. It would be funny if they weren't so pathetic. They truly cannot comprehend how they lost the election after all their effort cheating.
That's kind of the point. While the Dems have been going off on their
merry witch hunt they have been unwittingly exposing all the corruption
that occurred last year and not only made it relevant but made it
possible to re-investigate while being able to justify any investigation
over claims of a witch hunt.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:49 PM
These are Harvard lawyers. The most special geniuses the world has ever seen. And they keep sticking their shoes up their own asses. Now they are stuck in Mueller's too. It would be funny if they weren't so pathetic. They truly cannot comprehend how they lost the election after all their effort cheating.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (LfJIn)
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Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 12:39 PM (SapVv)
And he voted for Hellary most likely, so Trump does not lose a vote.
And he voted for Hellary most likely, so Trump does not lose a vote.
Posted by: F.N.G. at December 05, 2017 12:59 PM (/Blbn)
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128
But this is the GOPe we are talking about, Trump having demolished 15+
of their lackeys handily. So I expect it to fail in grand fashion.
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They couldn't even manage to take out a senate candidate with the traditional 'live girl' scam.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (XQvuQ)
Yep. Also relishing that one, bigly. It practically has the left crapping their pants in rage.
But this is the GOPe we are talking about, Trump having demolished 15+
of their lackeys handily. So I expect it to fail in grand fashion.
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They couldn't even manage to take out a senate candidate with the traditional 'live girl' scam.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (XQvuQ)
Yep. Also relishing that one, bigly. It practically has the left crapping their pants in rage.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 05, 2017 12:59 PM (tbOMB)
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118 @Methos - And "My opponent is for Sanctuary Cities." will be the kill-shot.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 05, 2017 12:59 PM (W+kMI)
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One interesting marker on this - if he continues waiting until the 2018
elections it means he knows he hasn't done a good enough job. He will
then wait until shortly before those elections to drop an October
Surprise
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We agree then. I think this investigation has already basically run its course and Mueller is now trying to figure out how it can influence the midterms. To do that it has to stay open for about ten more months.
elections it means he knows he hasn't done a good enough job. He will
then wait until shortly before those elections to drop an October
Surprise
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We agree then. I think this investigation has already basically run its course and Mueller is now trying to figure out how it can influence the midterms. To do that it has to stay open for about ten more months.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 12:59 PM (LISuA)
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I have a feeling that before too long, the left will be begging for Mueller to be fired, instead of the other way around.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (7ZVPa)
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"I don't know if I was clear. Much of the objection to doing the right thing was the fear of the reaction of "the Arab Street.""
Who end up burning down their own neighborhoods. After the past 16 years, I really do not fear much from the "Arab street."
Who end up burning down their own neighborhoods. After the past 16 years, I really do not fear much from the "Arab street."
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (hLRSq)
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132 The only way his family gets punished is if there is a communist revolution and they are executed like the Czar's family. Cause that's how commies roll.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (UtxsX)
And with the psycho, millennial base screaming for executions (Oh Twitter, you hideous cesspool), you think Chuck Schumer wouldn't oblige?
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (UtxsX)
And with the psycho, millennial base screaming for executions (Oh Twitter, you hideous cesspool), you think Chuck Schumer wouldn't oblige?
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (WDCYi)
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Trouble is so many in congress are hiding things the FBI probably knows about now.
OT: I hope Trump does move the embassy. Ergodan says this will be his "red line" and that is fine with me. It is time to end this farce that we have allies in the Islamic World. Turkey being example number 1. Better yet it will show the EU/UN to be the fair weather "friends" we always knew they were. It will give us another reason to break up the EU and cut funds to the UN.
Never let a crisis go to waste. Alinsky was right about that. Thank god the founders of this country did not let the Boston Massacre and Lexington/Concord go to waste.
OT: I hope Trump does move the embassy. Ergodan says this will be his "red line" and that is fine with me. It is time to end this farce that we have allies in the Islamic World. Turkey being example number 1. Better yet it will show the EU/UN to be the fair weather "friends" we always knew they were. It will give us another reason to break up the EU and cut funds to the UN.
Never let a crisis go to waste. Alinsky was right about that. Thank god the founders of this country did not let the Boston Massacre and Lexington/Concord go to waste.
Posted by: William Eaton at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (QDvfw)
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Trump's problem is that none of the top lawyers who know the ins and outs of the swamp, will work for him. He's got a AAA team going up against the All Star team.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (SapVv)
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>>Eh, I've heard that before. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I see no reason to play all these games. Trump is the Executive Branch. Mueller ultimately reports to him, not Rosenstein. Enough has been exposed. Enough time has passed. Fire him and let the fireworks begin.
Well first it already is. All we are arguing about is how much more damage it will do.
Second, one of the biggest reasons for electing Trump was to drain the swamp. If Mueller is removed it will cause a political shitstorm and all of the illegal doings of the Clinton regime will once again be swept under the rug.
Trump isn't in any danger, that should be obvious by now. Let this keep going at least until we get the OIG report and then the entire thing might just collapse under the weight of it's own corruption and we can go after the swamp and Hillary.
Well first it already is. All we are arguing about is how much more damage it will do.
Second, one of the biggest reasons for electing Trump was to drain the swamp. If Mueller is removed it will cause a political shitstorm and all of the illegal doings of the Clinton regime will once again be swept under the rug.
Trump isn't in any danger, that should be obvious by now. Let this keep going at least until we get the OIG report and then the entire thing might just collapse under the weight of it's own corruption and we can go after the swamp and Hillary.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (/tuJf)
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Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On warned US President Donald Trump that moving
the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the entire
region. She warned that such a unilateral move could distance peace.
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Yeah, it would be a shame if something happened to the awful horror that brings desolation on the Temple Mount, too.
the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the entire
region. She warned that such a unilateral move could distance peace.
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Yeah, it would be a shame if something happened to the awful horror that brings desolation on the Temple Mount, too.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 01:00 PM (XQvuQ)
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>>Morning Scrunt and Mike is convinced Trump and his family are "going to jail for the rest of their lives.
Old and busted: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!!
New hotness: Dissent is criminal!!
Old and busted: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!!
New hotness: Dissent is criminal!!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (W+vEI)
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They couldn't even manage to take out a senate candidate with the traditional 'live girl' scam.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (XQvuQ)
Wait, I thought that was "never get caught in bed with a live boy, or a dead girl" from Edwin Edwards. O.0 Am I missing a meme here?
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:57 PM (XQvuQ)
Wait, I thought that was "never get caught in bed with a live boy, or a dead girl" from Edwin Edwards. O.0 Am I missing a meme here?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (6JL3d)
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"Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On warned US President Donald Trump that moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the entire region."
Sixteen years too late to worry about that.
Sixteen years too late to worry about that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (hLRSq)
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136 These are Harvard lawyers. The most special geniuses the world has ever seen. And they keep sticking their shoes up their own asses. Now they are stuck in Mueller's too. It would be funny if they weren't so pathetic. They truly cannot comprehend how they lost the election after all their effort cheating.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (LfJIn)
Does Betsy DeVos have the authority to Decertify/De-accredit Harvard?
Because if she does, she should.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (LfJIn)
Does Betsy DeVos have the authority to Decertify/De-accredit Harvard?
Because if she does, she should.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (WDCYi)
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You know what really depresses me (other than my entire life, that is)?
It is, firstly, knowing with a dead certainty that the Dems / Deep State / MFM will not stop until they have either removed Teh Donald or made it impossible for him to govern.
And it is knowing that at least 50% of this godforsaken country will not only cheer at that but are even now instrumental in making it happen.
And, saddest of all, knowing that, were Trump removed or impeached, virtually everyone on our side will bluster and threaten and sling wild words, but will, when the rubber meets the road, say "hey, I'd love to take to the streets. I'd love to riot and burn DC to the ground. But I've got bills to pay! And a family to support! I can't afford to do anything!"
And the Deep State coup succeeds.
And I am including myself in the "bluster and threaten but impotent" category.
Because I need my job.
It is, firstly, knowing with a dead certainty that the Dems / Deep State / MFM will not stop until they have either removed Teh Donald or made it impossible for him to govern.
And it is knowing that at least 50% of this godforsaken country will not only cheer at that but are even now instrumental in making it happen.
And, saddest of all, knowing that, were Trump removed or impeached, virtually everyone on our side will bluster and threaten and sling wild words, but will, when the rubber meets the road, say "hey, I'd love to take to the streets. I'd love to riot and burn DC to the ground. But I've got bills to pay! And a family to support! I can't afford to do anything!"
And the Deep State coup succeeds.
And I am including myself in the "bluster and threaten but impotent" category.
Because I need my job.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (kqsXK)
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The left wing in Israel is as disgusting as it is here.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:56 PM (5y11N)
It's a case study in insanity, how they can be so divorced from reality living right in the middle of Islam's perpetual jihad.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (6JL3d)
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Liberalism is a mental disease. Worldwide.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:56 PM (5y11N)
It's a case study in insanity, how they can be so divorced from reality living right in the middle of Islam's perpetual jihad.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (6JL3d)
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Liberalism is a mental disease. Worldwide.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (SapVv)
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Oh no! Not contempt of Congress!
This is getting serious. Next thing you know they'll bring out the hashtags.
#CutItOutYouGuys
This is getting serious. Next thing you know they'll bring out the hashtags.
#CutItOutYouGuys
Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at December 05, 2017 01:02 PM (6ZMLS)
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The Roy Moore election, I think, is going to have a huge impact on how willing the House is to stand behind Trump.
The reason: If Moore loses now that Trump has gone all in fo him, it will be taken as a sign that Trump's Mojo is fading and the Congress can defy him with impunity.
HOWEVER, if Moore wins, with Trump's help, it will be a sign that Trump's mojo with the grass roots is still strong, and that he can swing elections, and that if they want to stay in office they better stay on Trump's good side.
It's an important election for many reasons.
The reason: If Moore loses now that Trump has gone all in fo him, it will be taken as a sign that Trump's Mojo is fading and the Congress can defy him with impunity.
HOWEVER, if Moore wins, with Trump's help, it will be a sign that Trump's mojo with the grass roots is still strong, and that he can swing elections, and that if they want to stay in office they better stay on Trump's good side.
It's an important election for many reasons.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2017 01:03 PM (k1TUh)
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Senior U.S. officials have said Trump is likely on Wednesday to recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital while delaying relocating the embassy from Tel Aviv for another six months, though he is expected to order his aides to begin planning such a move immediately
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:03 PM (5y11N)
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Second, one of the biggest reasons for electing Trump was to drain the swamp. If Mueller is removed it will cause a political shitstorm and all of the illegal doings of the Clinton regime will once again be swept under the rug.
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I guess I don't necessarily share your optimism in this regard. I agree Trump is safe, I just see no reason to continue this. You think it will expose more than it will find. Maybe so. Personally, I think it would be better to show that these special counsels answer to the President and are not some independent party.
Time will tell.
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I guess I don't necessarily share your optimism in this regard. I agree Trump is safe, I just see no reason to continue this. You think it will expose more than it will find. Maybe so. Personally, I think it would be better to show that these special counsels answer to the President and are not some independent party.
Time will tell.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:03 PM (sX1BW)
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If recent history is any guide, yes. I still chuckle over the 3am obama wiretapping tweet, which - after much garment rending and pearl clutching - revealed so much of the dems dirty laundry, in the final analysis.
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Yes. I'm thinking I'm going to have to thank God for twitter.
Twitter is Trump's trumpet.
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Yes. I'm thinking I'm going to have to thank God for twitter.
Twitter is Trump's trumpet.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:04 PM (QVy1T)
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And "My opponent is for Sanctuary Cities." will be the kill-shot.
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Nah, the gope braintrust will take that off the table but cutting all funding that could find its way to sanctuary cities in the budget they're about to pass.
Yeah, that's also a joke.
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Nah, the gope braintrust will take that off the table but cutting all funding that could find its way to sanctuary cities in the budget they're about to pass.
Yeah, that's also a joke.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 01:04 PM (XQvuQ)
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I don't think we should be satisfied with firing people who should be in prison.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:38 PM (XQvuQ)
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Exactly. Firing is a joke.
Prison. Nothing less.
These are crimes against the republic.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 12:38 PM (XQvuQ)
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Exactly. Firing is a joke.
Prison. Nothing less.
These are crimes against the republic.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:05 PM (03xNs)
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"And I am including myself in the "bluster and threaten but impotent" category. "
I'm in Texas, so I know I can look forward to being part of the Secesh movement, which would definitely be coming if the turn of events you detailed played out.
But I still think Trump is going to win, in the end.
I'm in Texas, so I know I can look forward to being part of the Secesh movement, which would definitely be coming if the turn of events you detailed played out.
But I still think Trump is going to win, in the end.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (k1TUh)
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I just see no reason to continue this. You think
it will expose more than it will find. Maybe so. Personally, I think
it would be better to show that these special counsels answer to the
President and are not some independent party.
Time will tell.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:03 PM (sX1BW)
If Trump fires Mueller we will never, ever stop hearing the "Coverup!" screams. I am convinced that was the entire point of the investigation to begin with.
it will expose more than it will find. Maybe so. Personally, I think
it would be better to show that these special counsels answer to the
President and are not some independent party.
Time will tell.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:03 PM (sX1BW)
If Trump fires Mueller we will never, ever stop hearing the "Coverup!" screams. I am convinced that was the entire point of the investigation to begin with.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (vg8iE)
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Nunes is angry because he knows damn well that everyone in DC knew what was going on except the Republicans.
It is like when Betty is going to the prom with Reggie, but Reggie is going to dump her for Veronica, and the whole school knows except Betty.
At what point doe the Republicans understand that this is war, and they need to join the winning team (PDT) and stop thinking the other side will win and the Republican traitors will be elevated as heros?
It is like when Betty is going to the prom with Reggie, but Reggie is going to dump her for Veronica, and the whole school knows except Betty.
At what point doe the Republicans understand that this is war, and they need to join the winning team (PDT) and stop thinking the other side will win and the Republican traitors will be elevated as heros?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (LWu6U)
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161 Exactly. Firing is a joke.
Prison. Nothing less.
These are crimes against the republic.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:05 PM (03xNs)
Even Prison is too humane for them.
These people should be naked and cold, stripped of all access to any resources, drowning in their own urine and feces.
Prison. Nothing less.
These are crimes against the republic.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:05 PM (03xNs)
Even Prison is too humane for them.
These people should be naked and cold, stripped of all access to any resources, drowning in their own urine and feces.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (WDCYi)
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These people are co-conspirators.
Hey FBI, DOJ, and Mueller,
The mafia called. They want their organized crime back.
Hey FBI, DOJ, and Mueller,
The mafia called. They want their organized crime back.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (03xNs)
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The FBI let a Democrat activist shape several important investigations, critical to election integrity and our system of government. Then they hid what they did. Then they lied about it. Then they stonewalled.
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And this is where we are. In part, this is why I give zero you-know-whats about Trump's "immature" tweets that "degrade the office of the presidency" hysterics. In comparison, this gov't apparatus has gone totally lawless and it should be far, far more alarming to Americans than anything he has said or done.
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And this is where we are. In part, this is why I give zero you-know-whats about Trump's "immature" tweets that "degrade the office of the presidency" hysterics. In comparison, this gov't apparatus has gone totally lawless and it should be far, far more alarming to Americans than anything he has said or done.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (mQ0Mc)
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cut off all justice funding until they come clean
that's how u deal with crooks
that's how u deal with crooks
Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (PvCxa)
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Exactly. Firing is a joke.
Prison. Nothing less.
These are crimes against the republic.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:05 PM (03xNs)
Concur, firing is not a punishment, they'll simply be re-employed elsewhere by Left-Wing, Inc.
There must be penalties for the damage these people have wrought. Long, bleak days behind bars, wondering who thought it was a good idea to try to disenfranchise the people of the United States, and why they ever went along with it. If there are no such penalties, they will simply regroup, and alter their angle of attack.
Exactly. Firing is a joke.
Prison. Nothing less.
These are crimes against the republic.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:05 PM (03xNs)
Concur, firing is not a punishment, they'll simply be re-employed elsewhere by Left-Wing, Inc.
There must be penalties for the damage these people have wrought. Long, bleak days behind bars, wondering who thought it was a good idea to try to disenfranchise the people of the United States, and why they ever went along with it. If there are no such penalties, they will simply regroup, and alter their angle of attack.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (6JL3d)
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If Trump fires Mueller we will never, ever stop hearing the "Coverup!" screams.
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The level of outrage from the left will be the same no matter what happens or what is found.
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The level of outrage from the left will be the same no matter what happens or what is found.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (sX1BW)
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Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On warned US President Donald Trump that moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem could enflame the entire region.
She warned that such a unilateral move could distance
peace.
Could? Since when has there been peace in the Mid East?
She warned that such a unilateral move could distance
peace.
Could? Since when has there been peace in the Mid East?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (vVRlw)
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US President Donald Trump will recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital on Wednesday, but will also sign a waiver that will keep the US Embassy in Israel in Tel Aviv
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (5y11N)
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165 Nunes is angry because he knows damn well that everyone in DC knew what was going on except the Republicans.
It is like when Betty is going to the prom with Reggie, but Reggie is going to dump her for Veronica, and the whole school knows except Betty.
At what point doe the Republicans understand that this is war, and they need to join the winning team (PDT) and stop thinking the other side will win and the Republican traitors will be elevated as heros?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (LWu6U)
Knowing the GOPe, they're probably going to allow Mutant Demoncrat Thumb Adam Schiff to cut off Nunes' balls again.
It is like when Betty is going to the prom with Reggie, but Reggie is going to dump her for Veronica, and the whole school knows except Betty.
At what point doe the Republicans understand that this is war, and they need to join the winning team (PDT) and stop thinking the other side will win and the Republican traitors will be elevated as heros?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (LWu6U)
Knowing the GOPe, they're probably going to allow Mutant Demoncrat Thumb Adam Schiff to cut off Nunes' balls again.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (WDCYi)
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One difference between Mika Brezinski and me is that she wants to criminalize those politicians views with which she disagrees. I could care less about their views. Instead I suggest we go full Chesterton on those politicians and media figures who are scheming to overthrow the election.
Disagree if you want to, that's your right. Advocate or even try to organize a coup? Nah- not so much.
Disagree if you want to, that's your right. Advocate or even try to organize a coup? Nah- not so much.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (LISuA)
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In a way, what is going on is very analogous to a complex perjury trap. And the Dems feel right into it.
THe idiot who thought it would be a good idea to involve the
operator who rigged the tesitmonies of Huma, Cheryl and Hillary, was the
principle who ran the entire Hillary email investigation, who softened
the words in Comey's speech thereby removing legal culpability, who was
the interface to Fusion for the Russia dossier and who sandbagged Flynn
into a perjury trap, into this investigation must shitting his pants
right now.
This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:55 PM
YESSS! This is exactly what is going on. Most can't see it yet but that is what is going on. Mueller is freaked out! He is going after bank records of Trump's that have zip to do with anything. Mueller is just lashing out and spewing.
THe idiot who thought it would be a good idea to involve the
operator who rigged the tesitmonies of Huma, Cheryl and Hillary, was the
principle who ran the entire Hillary email investigation, who softened
the words in Comey's speech thereby removing legal culpability, who was
the interface to Fusion for the Russia dossier and who sandbagged Flynn
into a perjury trap, into this investigation must shitting his pants
right now.
This is going to blow up in their faces. Bigly.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 12:55 PM
YESSS! This is exactly what is going on. Most can't see it yet but that is what is going on. Mueller is freaked out! He is going after bank records of Trump's that have zip to do with anything. Mueller is just lashing out and spewing.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 01:09 PM (LfJIn)
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Wait, I thought that was "never get caught in bed
with a live boy, or a dead girl" from Edwin Edwards. O.0 Am I missing a
meme here?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (6JL3d)
No, you've remembered how the line actually goes.
So I guess that joke's on me as I failed to recall the script the same way McConnell did.
with a live boy, or a dead girl" from Edwin Edwards. O.0 Am I missing a
meme here?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (6JL3d)
No, you've remembered how the line actually goes.
So I guess that joke's on me as I failed to recall the script the same way McConnell did.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 01:09 PM (XQvuQ)
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Could? Since when has there been peace in the Mid East?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (vVRlw)
Since they built Fantasy Land
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (vVRlw)
Since they built Fantasy Land
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:09 PM (5y11N)
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After Nixon and Watergate, the Republican Party is forever tainted and perceived by the public as the party of corruption. They will never ever will another national election.
Posted by: Pundits of 1974 at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (42M22)
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btw wtf does Trump's bank records have to do with the non-existent russia collusion? I always knew from day one this would expand and expand until they find something, anything.
btw wtf does Trump's bank records have to do with the non-existent russia collusion? I always knew from day one this would expand and expand until they find something, anything.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
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merh, the GOP will lie back and take this because otherwise SNL and other democrats in the media will make fun of them.
Me? I suggest total war and get war time consilieris to specifically target huma's lies, comey's leaks, hillary's being a Clinton, etc etc.
Me? I suggest total war and get war time consilieris to specifically target huma's lies, comey's leaks, hillary's being a Clinton, etc etc.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (TlvUt)
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160 @Methos - for the GOPe, yes.
It WILL be in the ammo chest of Bannon's chosen candidates though.
It WILL be in the ammo chest of Bannon's chosen candidates though.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (W+kMI)
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The level of outrage from the left will be the same no matter what happens or what is found.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (sX1BW)
Agreed, but I believe firing Mueller will be very Nixonian to those who haven't formed an opinion either way.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (sX1BW)
Agreed, but I believe firing Mueller will be very Nixonian to those who haven't formed an opinion either way.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (UBzPO)
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the bank request must be a dare to "fire me now, trump"/.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (TlvUt)
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And this is where we are. In part, this is why I
give zero you-know-whats about Trump's "immature" tweets that "degrade
the office of the presidency" hysterics. In comparison, this gov't
apparatus has gone totally lawless and it should be far, far more alarming to Americans than anything he has said or done.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (mQ0Mc)
Exactly, who gives a rat's posterior about Trump's delivery when the substance is correct, and exposes the truth about our time?
He can "degrade" the office all he wants, I care nothing for meaningless trappings and decorum that mean so much to the rest of the planet. Substance, consistency, and results - that's what I care about, and Trump is delivering on some of these things for the people of the United States, indeed, for the first time since I can remember that anyone from our political representatives have delivered for the people.
We can't spare this man - he fights!!
And this is where we are. In part, this is why I
give zero you-know-whats about Trump's "immature" tweets that "degrade
the office of the presidency" hysterics. In comparison, this gov't
apparatus has gone totally lawless and it should be far, far more alarming to Americans than anything he has said or done.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (mQ0Mc)
Exactly, who gives a rat's posterior about Trump's delivery when the substance is correct, and exposes the truth about our time?
He can "degrade" the office all he wants, I care nothing for meaningless trappings and decorum that mean so much to the rest of the planet. Substance, consistency, and results - that's what I care about, and Trump is delivering on some of these things for the people of the United States, indeed, for the first time since I can remember that anyone from our political representatives have delivered for the people.
We can't spare this man - he fights!!
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (6JL3d)
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If Trump fires Mueller we will never, ever stop hearing the "Coverup!" screams.
You get one year. If you can't even find a whiff of a crime in a year, you will never be employable in law enforcement for life.
Even Barney Fife could find lawbreaking if there was lawbreaking going on.
You get one year. If you can't even find a whiff of a crime in a year, you will never be employable in law enforcement for life.
Even Barney Fife could find lawbreaking if there was lawbreaking going on.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (vVRlw)
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183 The level of outrage from the left will be the same no matter what happens or what is found.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++
and that's all that matters, apparently.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++
and that's all that matters, apparently.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (TlvUt)
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173 US President Donald Trump will recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital on Wednesday, but will also sign a waiver that will keep the US Embassy in Israel in Tel Aviv
Posted by: Nevergiveup
A Solomonic decision.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
A Solomonic decision.
Posted by: Pundits of 1974 at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (42M22)
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This business will get out of control.
Posted by: Mega at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (NG45c)
190
Impeach Sessions over this. He runs the DOJ and the FBI. That will wake his ass up.
Posted by: VA MKZ at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (tkZ2O)
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I mean, I'm pissed. I'm like Schlicter, why should we agree to one-sided rules?
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (TlvUt)
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why should we agree to targetted law enforcement and perjury fishing?
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (TlvUt)
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Agreed, but I believe firing Mueller will be very Nixonian to those who haven't formed an opinion either way.
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Different political landscape back then.
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Different political landscape back then.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
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Levin has said in the past program that there is a method for Nunes to go directly to a court and get a court order to force the FBI and DOJ to provide documents. He outlined exactly what it was. And he was flabbergasted that Nunez had not taken advantage of it yet
Posted by: Jen the original at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (VSya6)
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Congress critters are angry?
Well whopp-de-fucking-doo.
It's all political theater.
Eventually the audience is going to get so pissed off they start throwing shit.
Well whopp-de-fucking-doo.
It's all political theater.
Eventually the audience is going to get so pissed off they start throwing shit.
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (yP91S)
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I always knew from day one this would expand and expand until they find something, anything.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
Which is why we are the party of the stupid. The Left would never have allowed this. They learned from the Clinton Fiasco.
And why Sessions is an asshole. He never should have accepted the Position of AG knowing he would recuse himself. He fucked us 6 ways to Sunday, no matter how "Noble" his intentions were. This is hardball we are playing, not girls softball.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
Which is why we are the party of the stupid. The Left would never have allowed this. They learned from the Clinton Fiasco.
And why Sessions is an asshole. He never should have accepted the Position of AG knowing he would recuse himself. He fucked us 6 ways to Sunday, no matter how "Noble" his intentions were. This is hardball we are playing, not girls softball.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (5y11N)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (MINbv)
200
180
btw wtf does Trump's bank records have to do with the non-existent russia collusion? I always knew from day one this would expand and expand until they find something, anything.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
Investigations like this need to justify their existence, which means an eternal search for fishing holes in the ice that actually lead to fish. No fish at this ice hole? Go on a new expedition. Eventually they will either catch a fish or fall through the ice.
btw wtf does Trump's bank records have to do with the non-existent russia collusion? I always knew from day one this would expand and expand until they find something, anything.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2017 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
Investigations like this need to justify their existence, which means an eternal search for fishing holes in the ice that actually lead to fish. No fish at this ice hole? Go on a new expedition. Eventually they will either catch a fish or fall through the ice.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (RD7QR)
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170 There must be penalties for the damage these people have wrought. Long, bleak days behind bars, wondering who thought it was a good idea to try to disenfranchise the people of the United States, and why they ever went along with it. If there are no such penalties, they will simply regroup, and alter their angle of attack.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (6JL3d)
I do not care if it is cruel, public humiliation and removal of all trappings of their status must be part of their punishment.
They have to be hit right in their egos.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (6JL3d)
I do not care if it is cruel, public humiliation and removal of all trappings of their status must be part of their punishment.
They have to be hit right in their egos.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (WDCYi)
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If Trump fires Mueller we will never, ever stop hearing the "Coverup!" screams. I am convinced that was the entire point of the investigation to begin with.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (UBzPO)
why make a martyr when their own corruption and incompetence comes more apparent with every passing day.
"You let Hillary slide for the same thing you got the own guy here on lying. You really have nothing up your sleeve but your arm, right?"
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 01:06 PM (UBzPO)
why make a martyr when their own corruption and incompetence comes more apparent with every passing day.
"You let Hillary slide for the same thing you got the own guy here on lying. You really have nothing up your sleeve but your arm, right?"
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (hLRSq)
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It won't be Nixonian if we get Christie/Guiliani/McCArthy etc etc to get scalps of biased, corrupt FBI agents in this mess.
You wanna be the 12+ Clinton attorneys working for Mueller have been on the up and up with their taxes?
You wanna be the 12+ Clinton attorneys working for Mueller have been on the up and up with their taxes?
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (TlvUt)
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Wanna buy some Styrofoam pillars?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (MINbv)
LOL
Wanna buy some Styrofoam pillars?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (MINbv)
LOL
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (6JL3d)
205
Above all else, DC is a guild. A club, where they set the rules and make changes anytime necessary to keep an outsider down.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (LWu6U)
206
Could? Since when has there been peace in the Mid East?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM
The various political jihadi groups are much more concerned with the Saudi money pipeline being cut. All those old princes are still in the Ritz and their bank accounts are frozen. Broke political groups whining doesn't mean much if they don't have any money to back it up.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM
The various political jihadi groups are much more concerned with the Saudi money pipeline being cut. All those old princes are still in the Ritz and their bank accounts are frozen. Broke political groups whining doesn't mean much if they don't have any money to back it up.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (LfJIn)
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64 I just do not understand why Sessions is stonewalling all this. Surely
his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests
for information.
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Whatever Sessions is being blackmailed over, and he *is* being blackmailed, is juicy enough that he will do whatever they want.
Of course if Roy Moore wins the Senate election after the Dems/Deep State through so much at him, I wonder if some of the cow'ed Republicans will stop being so afraid.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (eSx+E)
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Why does it have to be blackmail? Couldn't it be just a straight up "we will murder you and your family?"
his recusal do NOT include non-compliance with Congressional requests
for information.
***
Whatever Sessions is being blackmailed over, and he *is* being blackmailed, is juicy enough that he will do whatever they want.
Of course if Roy Moore wins the Senate election after the Dems/Deep State through so much at him, I wonder if some of the cow'ed Republicans will stop being so afraid.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 05, 2017 12:43 PM (eSx+E)
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Why does it have to be blackmail? Couldn't it be just a straight up "we will murder you and your family?"
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (LnOh3)
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The level of outrage from the left will be the same no matter what happens or what is found.
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Invest in straightjacket futures.
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Invest in straightjacket futures.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (mQ0Mc)
Posted by: American public, no longer caring about the shouting matches in Washington and on Twitter at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (42M22)
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Ok you got us! But it's all this guy Strzok's fault. He went rogue!!! Swearsies!
Posted by: The Deep State at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (NG45c)
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the moment mueller was hired, we knew it was a mistake. no limits....very bad.
swamp needs to be drained and then executed.
swamp needs to be drained and then executed.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (TlvUt)
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the bank request must be a dare to "fire me now, trump"/.
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I suspect Mueller got wind of discussions underway about his firing and he made this request preemptively - thinking that it is like a booby trap. If you fire me now, it will look like you are doing it to hide your bank records.
Personally, I think Mueller needs to get wind of a grand jury being empanelled to indict him . . .
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I suspect Mueller got wind of discussions underway about his firing and he made this request preemptively - thinking that it is like a booby trap. If you fire me now, it will look like you are doing it to hide your bank records.
Personally, I think Mueller needs to get wind of a grand jury being empanelled to indict him . . .
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (Hjq9x)
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US President Donald Trump will recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital on Wednesday, but will also sign a waiver that will keep the US Embassy in Israel in Tel Aviv
Posted by: Nevergiveup
A Solomonic decision.
Posted by: Pundits of 1974 at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (42M22)
Which is what I have been saying for days and I also think he will specify this pertains to West Jerusalem
Posted by: Nevergiveup
A Solomonic decision.
Posted by: Pundits of 1974 at December 05, 2017 01:11 PM (42M22)
Which is what I have been saying for days and I also think he will specify this pertains to West Jerusalem
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (5y11N)
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Only been about a year of Trump presidency so far.
Does it feel more like 5 years to anyone else? It is this constant drumbeat of scandal & resistance & lying & media hysterics every day. Plus the undercurrent of uncertainty.
I'm amazed anything proactive is getting done with all the fires that need attending.
I'm exhausted just watching it all. I hope Trump's health holds out.
Does it feel more like 5 years to anyone else? It is this constant drumbeat of scandal & resistance & lying & media hysterics every day. Plus the undercurrent of uncertainty.
I'm amazed anything proactive is getting done with all the fires that need attending.
I'm exhausted just watching it all. I hope Trump's health holds out.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
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Different political landscape back then.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
There is a segment who don't follow this stuff as closely as we do and don't understand that. All they understand is that Nixon was corrupt because he fired the guy who was trying to investigate him. Right or wrong a large segment of the population believes this and that's why I think firing Mueller would be a mistake, especially since there was no collusion. Let them expose themselves further.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
There is a segment who don't follow this stuff as closely as we do and don't understand that. All they understand is that Nixon was corrupt because he fired the guy who was trying to investigate him. Right or wrong a large segment of the population believes this and that's why I think firing Mueller would be a mistake, especially since there was no collusion. Let them expose themselves further.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (03xNs)
Posted by: Dude at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (RYASC)
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re 193: keep in mind that the whole thing about the Nixon cover-up was that it involved an actual crime, breaking and entering. Nixon shoulda just waited till after his second inauguration and then pardoned them, saying they had already suffered enough.
and yeah, I was being sarcastic at 197.
and yeah, I was being sarcastic at 197.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (ILitO)
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Above all else, DC is a guild. A club, where they set the rules and make changes anytime necessary to keep an outsider down.
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Which makes what Trump did and has done all the more incredible.
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Which makes what Trump did and has done all the more incredible.
Posted by: Mega at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (NG45c)
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>>The level of outrage from the left will be the same no matter what happens or what is found.
The outlet that broke the news yesterday about Strzok being the individual who interviewed Hillary was CNN.
That CNN. Fake News CNN. Trumps biggest critic.
If CNN can reading the writing I'm not all that worried about a few remaining lefty shriekers. Just wait a little longer, we are nearing the finish line.
The outlet that broke the news yesterday about Strzok being the individual who interviewed Hillary was CNN.
That CNN. Fake News CNN. Trumps biggest critic.
If CNN can reading the writing I'm not all that worried about a few remaining lefty shriekers. Just wait a little longer, we are nearing the finish line.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (/tuJf)
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177 Wait, I thought that was "never get caught in bed
with a live boy, or a dead girl" from Edwin Edwards. O.0 Am I missing a
meme here?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (6JL3d)
No, you've remembered how the line actually goes.
So I guess that joke's on me as I failed to recall the script the same way McConnell did.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 01:09 PM (XQvuQ)
Obstruction of justice!!1!1!!!11!1!11!1!11!!!!
with a live boy, or a dead girl" from Edwin Edwards. O.0 Am I missing a
meme here?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:01 PM (6JL3d)
No, you've remembered how the line actually goes.
So I guess that joke's on me as I failed to recall the script the same way McConnell did.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 01:09 PM (XQvuQ)
Obstruction of justice!!1!1!!!11!1!11!1!11!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (NWiLs)
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I do not care if it is cruel, public humiliation and removal of all trappings of their status must be part of their punishment.
They have to be hit right in their egos.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (WDCYi)
I do not think that would be cruel at all. What is cruel is the malicious way our political 'betters' have deceived and misused the people for decades without pity or remorse.
Public stockades and tomato-throwings are definitely in line. Tar and feather them, run them out of town! It's been nothing but lies, distortions, and ever-greater demands from them - it's long past time they did the time for their crimes.
I do not care if it is cruel, public humiliation and removal of all trappings of their status must be part of their punishment.
They have to be hit right in their egos.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (WDCYi)
I do not think that would be cruel at all. What is cruel is the malicious way our political 'betters' have deceived and misused the people for decades without pity or remorse.
Public stockades and tomato-throwings are definitely in line. Tar and feather them, run them out of town! It's been nothing but lies, distortions, and ever-greater demands from them - it's long past time they did the time for their crimes.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (6JL3d)
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I hope Trump's health holds out.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
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You wanna be the 12+ Clinton attorneys working for Mueller have been on the up and up with their taxes?
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (TlvUt)
Don't fall in that trap. If it was wrong for Obama to weaponize the IRS then it's wrong for Trump to. I believe most people will see through this coup attempt when Mueller comes back with some real estate fraud charge from 1985.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (TlvUt)
Don't fall in that trap. If it was wrong for Obama to weaponize the IRS then it's wrong for Trump to. I believe most people will see through this coup attempt when Mueller comes back with some real estate fraud charge from 1985.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (UBzPO)
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I am hearing that Strzok was not the only one with anti-Trump messages on his devices, there were multiple others on Mueller's team doing the same thing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (7ZVPa)
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It's all political theater.
Eventually the audience is going to get so pissed off they start throwing shit.
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (yP91S)
Yeah, I don't know who Congresscritter Nunes is (and I don't really want to know), but I figure if he's getting "mad" it means somebody higher up the chain of command told him to get mad.
Eventually the audience is going to get so pissed off they start throwing shit.
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 01:12 PM (yP91S)
Yeah, I don't know who Congresscritter Nunes is (and I don't really want to know), but I figure if he's getting "mad" it means somebody higher up the chain of command told him to get mad.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (9chmE)
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Conyers retiring today;
******
ARE YOU GOING UP OR DOWN? - a limerick
The retirement of Mr. John Conyers
That fine congressman is a goner
An iconic career
Of fifty-two years
What'll we miss most? Those elevator boners.
******
ARE YOU GOING UP OR DOWN? - a limerick
The retirement of Mr. John Conyers
That fine congressman is a goner
An iconic career
Of fifty-two years
What'll we miss most? Those elevator boners.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (wPiJc)
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201 170 There must be penalties for the damage these people have wrought. Long, bleak days behind bars, wondering who thought it was a good idea to try to disenfranchise the people of the United States, and why they ever went along with it. If there are no such penalties, they will simply regroup, and alter their angle of attack.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (6JL3d)
I do not care if it is cruel, public humiliation and removal of all trappings of their status must be part of their punishment.
They have to be hit right in their egos.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (WDCYi)
Sentence them to become Walmart Greeters.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 05, 2017 01:07 PM (6JL3d)
I do not care if it is cruel, public humiliation and removal of all trappings of their status must be part of their punishment.
They have to be hit right in their egos.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:13 PM (WDCYi)
Sentence them to become Walmart Greeters.
Posted by: josephistan at December 05, 2017 01:16 PM (7HtZB)
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I am hearing that Strzok was not the only one with anti-Trump messages on his devices, there were multiple others on Mueller's team doing the same thing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (7ZVPa)
They are all on the record Democratic Doners
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (7ZVPa)
They are all on the record Democratic Doners
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:16 PM (5y11N)
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why make a martyr when their own corruption and incompetence comes more apparent with every passing day.
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then what is the end game? Who puts a stop to it?
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then what is the end game? Who puts a stop to it?
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:16 PM (sX1BW)
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Yeah, re: Sessions, you'd think things ought to be resolvable according to the chain of command. If Nunes gets no response to his request, he could say "Jeff, can you look into this for me?" Just as if an employee at some store spat on you, you'd want to talk to the manager. Or even take it higher.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (/qEW2)
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Why Werent Huma Abedin And Cheryl Mills Charged When They Lied To Peter Strzok And The FBI?
See the problem with having a law that says lying to the government is a crime? The Government gets to decide after the fact what is a lie. Huma and Cheryl lied but are not charged.
See the problem with having a law that says lying to the government is a crime? The Government gets to decide after the fact what is a lie. Huma and Cheryl lied but are not charged.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (BtQd4)
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175 One difference between Mika Brezinski and me is that she wants to criminalize those politicians views with which she disagrees. I could care less about their views. Instead I suggest we go full Chesterton on those politicians and media figures who are scheming to overthrow the election.
Disagree if you want to, that's your right. Advocate or even try to organize a coup? Nah- not so much.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (LISuA)
It's not just Mika.
Even Mad Maxine came out and said that her "goal" was to throw everybody who disagrees with her in prison.
Disagree if you want to, that's your right. Advocate or even try to organize a coup? Nah- not so much.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:08 PM (LISuA)
It's not just Mika.
Even Mad Maxine came out and said that her "goal" was to throw everybody who disagrees with her in prison.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (WDCYi)
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They've updated the rule to "Never get caught with a live goat or a dead whale."
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (42M22)
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degrade" the office all he wants, I care nothing for meaningless trappings and decorum that mean so much to the rest of the planet.
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This ship sailed already. It was called the USS Bill Clinton.
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This ship sailed already. It was called the USS Bill Clinton.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (DOLfi)
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>>I am hearing that Strzok was not the only one with anti-Trump messages on his devices, there were multiple others on Mueller's team doing the same thing
Yep, my new girlfriend, Sara Carter, confirmed it last night.
Yep, my new girlfriend, Sara Carter, confirmed it last night.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:18 PM (/tuJf)
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This reminds me of my favorite Brad Cooper movie, the A-Team as well as my favorite early to mid nineties Keanue movie.
The DNC expects us to play like lame girls and lie back and take it.
I suggest:
1. shoot the hostage; and/or
2. what the bad guy in A-Team did when he recognized an A-Team trap ... he picked up a bunch of RPG's and started shooting everything.
Trump should call bluffs, fire guns, and let the carefully laid plans of the Soros' left fall to shit and, as is his custom, survive smelling like roses.
The DNC expects us to play like lame girls and lie back and take it.
I suggest:
1. shoot the hostage; and/or
2. what the bad guy in A-Team did when he recognized an A-Team trap ... he picked up a bunch of RPG's and started shooting everything.
Trump should call bluffs, fire guns, and let the carefully laid plans of the Soros' left fall to shit and, as is his custom, survive smelling like roses.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:18 PM (TlvUt)
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They've updated the rule to "Never get caught with a live goat or a dead whale."
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (42M22)
Boy, that escalated quickly. O_o
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (42M22)
Boy, that escalated quickly. O_o
Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 05, 2017 01:19 PM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:19 PM (MINbv)
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The Palestinian factions announced three days of rage from Wednesday to Friday in protest of US President Donald Trumps announcement to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to transfer the American embassy from Tel Aviv
Shit, that's nothing. almost an acquiescence, HOWEVER, these things tend to spin out of control with Arabs.
The Palestinian factions announced three days of rage from Wednesday to Friday in protest of US President Donald Trumps announcement to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to transfer the American embassy from Tel Aviv
Shit, that's nothing. almost an acquiescence, HOWEVER, these things tend to spin out of control with Arabs.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (5y11N)
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Yep, my new girlfriend, Sara Carter, confirmed it last night.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:18 PM (/tuJf)
I'm looking for Sara Caaahtuh.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:18 PM (/tuJf)
I'm looking for Sara Caaahtuh.
Posted by: Buff Nekkid Dude With Sunglasses and a Bad Accent at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (9chmE)
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As I said: "Fuck the trap" Trump is POTUS. He has more power if he chooses to use it.
Toss out plea deals (flynn)
Toss out immunities
Investigate Huma, Clinton, Comey for their transparent crimes.
Toss out plea deals (flynn)
Toss out immunities
Investigate Huma, Clinton, Comey for their transparent crimes.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (TlvUt)
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223 I hope Trump's health holds out.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
He reminds me of that old Timex commercial..."Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
He reminds me of that old Timex commercial..."Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (DZp0Z)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (MINbv)
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Why does it have to be blackmail? Couldn't it be just a straight up "we will murder you and your family?"
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If so, announce it publicly, and instantly become immune to the threat.
If it was done once, it's probably a habit, so get other people who've been similarly threatened to come forward as well.
Make the deep state famous the same way sex harassment charges have brought others in government and media to the public spotlight.
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If so, announce it publicly, and instantly become immune to the threat.
If it was done once, it's probably a habit, so get other people who've been similarly threatened to come forward as well.
Make the deep state famous the same way sex harassment charges have brought others in government and media to the public spotlight.
Posted by: Methos at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (XQvuQ)
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (TlvUt)
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Yep, my new girlfriend, Sara Carter, confirmed it last night.
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How is anyone getting looks at text message streams from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to monitor text messages?
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How is anyone getting looks at text message streams from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to monitor text messages?
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (LISuA)
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Screw "threatening" contempt. JUST FREAKIN DO IT!!!!
I'm tired of this paper tiger nonsense. The Republican Party needs to set the precedent or it will continue (is continuing).
I'm tired of this paper tiger nonsense. The Republican Party needs to set the precedent or it will continue (is continuing).
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (iwDK0)
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Let's just say Trump ain't Bush the W
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (TlvUt)
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The East Germany called. They want their Stasi back
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More and more, I'm convinced that the Stasi never died, just like the Communists didn't. They survived, drifted into other countries, and lent their skills out.
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More and more, I'm convinced that the Stasi never died, just like the Communists didn't. They survived, drifted into other countries, and lent their skills out.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (Pd0Uc)
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I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
You're a fucking dentist, that doesn't count
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
You're a fucking dentist, that doesn't count
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (3/sUh)
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Sentence them to become Walmart Greeters.
Posted by: josephistan at December 05, 2017 01:16 PM (7HtZB)
That's not fair to existing Walmart Greeters who are mostly ordinary people who got caught unprepared for retirement.
Maybe they could get work cleaning ditches.
Sentence them to become Walmart Greeters.
Posted by: josephistan at December 05, 2017 01:16 PM (7HtZB)
That's not fair to existing Walmart Greeters who are mostly ordinary people who got caught unprepared for retirement.
Maybe they could get work cleaning ditches.
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (nBr1j)
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The Palestinian factions announced three days of rage from Wednesday to Friday in protest of US President Donald Trumps announcement to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to transfer the American embassy from Tel Aviv
Shit, that's nothing. almost an acquiescence, HOWEVER, these things tend to spin out of control with Arabs.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
More rioting extremist Arabs means more dead extremist Arabs at the end of the riot. I'm OK with that.
The Palestinian factions announced three days of rage from Wednesday to Friday in protest of US President Donald Trumps announcement to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to transfer the American embassy from Tel Aviv
Shit, that's nothing. almost an acquiescence, HOWEVER, these things tend to spin out of control with Arabs.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
More rioting extremist Arabs means more dead extremist Arabs at the end of the riot. I'm OK with that.
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (42M22)
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Bleh, break time is over *returns to standing on head*
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (9chmE)
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I just never thought Sessions would be such a pussy. But then again, politicians are made to disappoint.
I just never thought Sessions would be such a pussy. But then again, politicians are made to disappoint.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (r+sAi)
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They've updated the rule to "Never get caught with a live goat or a dead whale."
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (42M22)
Or a ficus tree.
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:17 PM (42M22)
Or a ficus tree.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (DZp0Z)
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>>240 The Palestinian factions announced three days of rage from Wednesday to Friday in protest of US President Donald Trumps announcement to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and to transfer the American embassy from Tel Aviv
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (5y11N)
Excellent. Their impotent squealing is a symphony.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (5y11N)
Excellent. Their impotent squealing is a symphony.
Posted by: Zod at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (Bdeb0)
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How is anyone getting looks at text message streams from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to monitor text messages?
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NSA
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NSA
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)
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I am hearing that Strzok was not the only one with anti-Trump
messages on his devices, there were multiple others on Mueller's team
doing the same thing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM
The recipient of his messages was doing it too. She is/was the legal counsel for the deputy then acting Chief of the FBI for heaven's sakes. Talk about stupid. And she was boinking this FBI goon and probably passing back and forth orders/information like a gun moll. Trash.
I am hearing that Strzok was not the only one with anti-Trump
messages on his devices, there were multiple others on Mueller's team
doing the same thing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM
The recipient of his messages was doing it too. She is/was the legal counsel for the deputy then acting Chief of the FBI for heaven's sakes. Talk about stupid. And she was boinking this FBI goon and probably passing back and forth orders/information like a gun moll. Trash.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (LfJIn)
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242 As I said: "Fuck the trap" Trump is POTUS. He has more power if he chooses to use it.
Toss out plea deals (flynn)
Toss out immunities
Investigate Huma, Clinton, Comey for their transparent crimes.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (TlvUt)
And start firing weasels at DOJ starting that Rod McWeaselstein
Toss out plea deals (flynn)
Toss out immunities
Investigate Huma, Clinton, Comey for their transparent crimes.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:20 PM (TlvUt)
And start firing weasels at DOJ starting that Rod McWeaselstein
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (3/sUh)
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Did that little putrid former Sunday School teacher Comey come out with another Bible verse yet? He needs to be taken out behind the barn for a walloping.
Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (MINbv)
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I'm going to repeat what I've said before, for every day that the deadline for a subpoena to the FBI from the House, which has complete oversight of the FBI, is overdue, a million dollars comes out of the FBI budget.
I've noticed for awhile now that the more moderate of the GOP pundits do not seem to comprehend, in the slightly, how angry people are about the outright flaunting of any notion of accountability on the part of the FBI and other agencies and, more to the point, how utterly deserved and righteous that anger is.
As always, the Tea Party was the polite request. Trump is the not so polite request. Ignore Trump and there will be something that comes after that.
That's what we're most likely going to see with Roy Moore's election. The more strident the shrieks of how dare you even think of questioning whether Moore is a pedophile rapist, the fewer the fucks I give.
I've noticed for awhile now that the more moderate of the GOP pundits do not seem to comprehend, in the slightly, how angry people are about the outright flaunting of any notion of accountability on the part of the FBI and other agencies and, more to the point, how utterly deserved and righteous that anger is.
As always, the Tea Party was the polite request. Trump is the not so polite request. Ignore Trump and there will be something that comes after that.
That's what we're most likely going to see with Roy Moore's election. The more strident the shrieks of how dare you even think of questioning whether Moore is a pedophile rapist, the fewer the fucks I give.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM (mf5HN)
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I am hearing that Strzok was not the only one with anti-Trump messages on his devices, there were multiple others on Mueller's team doing the same thing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (7ZVPa)
I can believe that which is why I do not want Mueller fired, I do not want him made a martyr. I want to have stuff like that come out and discredit him and his team and the entire investigation. I want the whole thing to go to its ugly end where their reputations are stained beyond cleansing - I want it to go straight to the Bunker Scene, as it were.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (7ZVPa)
I can believe that which is why I do not want Mueller fired, I do not want him made a martyr. I want to have stuff like that come out and discredit him and his team and the entire investigation. I want the whole thing to go to its ugly end where their reputations are stained beyond cleansing - I want it to go straight to the Bunker Scene, as it were.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM (hLRSq)
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He "threatens" contempt? Did he stomp his feet too? Good Lord, we are so far past -- or should be -- the point of huffing and puffing, I can't even say.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM (5msTp)
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DoJ...'has more recently cleared key witnesses they {Congress} have requested to testify, including Mr. McCabe, Mr. Strzok, and the alleged handler in question.'
Boy, that hearing will be a snooze-fest. Strzok, McCabe and any other FBI agents there, will not be able to recall details of any conversations they had or any on the job actions they took over the past 5 years. They won't even be able to remember what they had for breakfast that day. Liars gonna lie.
Boy, that hearing will be a snooze-fest. Strzok, McCabe and any other FBI agents there, will not be able to recall details of any conversations they had or any on the job actions they took over the past 5 years. They won't even be able to remember what they had for breakfast that day. Liars gonna lie.
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM (AMIL/)
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How is anyone getting looks at text message streams from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to monitor text messages?
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Of course, senior FBI people can't have reglr people phones. They get a special FBI cell phone.
Also the NSA says: All UR TEXT R BELONG 2 US.
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Of course, senior FBI people can't have reglr people phones. They get a special FBI cell phone.
Also the NSA says: All UR TEXT R BELONG 2 US.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:24 PM (bCqCP)
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>>How is anyone getting looks at text message streams from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to monitor text messages?
I don't know how she does it but she seems to have some excellent sources in the FBI and the DOJ. Not all of them are corrupt and she is usually one step ahead of just about every other reporter on these issues.
Also, don't forget there has been an active OIG investigation going on since January 12th and it also has an extremely broad mandate to look into all kinds of corruption inside the DOJ.
I don't know how she does it but she seems to have some excellent sources in the FBI and the DOJ. Not all of them are corrupt and she is usually one step ahead of just about every other reporter on these issues.
Also, don't forget there has been an active OIG investigation going on since January 12th and it also has an extremely broad mandate to look into all kinds of corruption inside the DOJ.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:24 PM (/tuJf)
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Did that little putrid former Sunday School teacher Comey come out with another Bible verse yet?
He's out of Scotch and into the Cooking Sherry.
He's out of Scotch and into the Cooking Sherry.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 01:25 PM (WbIyz)
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how angry people are about the outright flaunting of any notion of accountability on the part of the FBI and other agencies and
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hence my desire to just fire Mueller.
Otherwise, what is the end game?
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hence my desire to just fire Mueller.
Otherwise, what is the end game?
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:25 PM (sX1BW)
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The porgs are very mad at all this bullshit, we may have a stampede...and you don't want a porg stampede
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (TlvUt)
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How is anyone getting looks at text message streams
from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to
monitor text messages?
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NSA
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)
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Really? NSA is leaking this info to Sara Carter? I certainly bow to superior knowledge but this idea surprises me.
Somehow I'd bet this stuff is coming from the Fibbies and NSA isn't involved, but what do I know.
from multiple phones? Are these Bureau phones, giving them the right to
monitor text messages?
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NSA
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)
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Really? NSA is leaking this info to Sara Carter? I certainly bow to superior knowledge but this idea surprises me.
Somehow I'd bet this stuff is coming from the Fibbies and NSA isn't involved, but what do I know.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (LISuA)
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how angry people are about the outright flaunting of any notion of accountability on the part of the FBI and other agencies and
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hence my desire to just fire Mueller.
Otherwise, what is the end game?
Posted by: SH
Lampposts & rope.
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hence my desire to just fire Mueller.
Otherwise, what is the end game?
Posted by: SH
Lampposts & rope.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (vVRlw)
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Did that little putrid former Sunday School teacher Comey come out with another Bible verse yet? He needs to be taken out behind the barn for a walloping.
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It can always be worse.
Sure traitor is bad, but sanctimonious traitor is worse. Nice work Comey, keep digging. I look forward to seeing you in an Orange jumpsuit.
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It can always be worse.
Sure traitor is bad, but sanctimonious traitor is worse. Nice work Comey, keep digging. I look forward to seeing you in an Orange jumpsuit.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (DEZ6/)
275
It's all smoke and bullshit until SOMEONE goes to jail for this shit.
Time to ruin some lives here, ladies and gentlemen. What they're doing is TREASON and should be treated as such.
Time to ruin some lives here, ladies and gentlemen. What they're doing is TREASON and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Sponge at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (xttKs)
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want to have stuff like that come out and discredit him and his team and the entire investigation"
I'm guessing that's the play, and the dhims are so stuck inn stupid that they can't see what's hitting them.
I'm guessing that's the play, and the dhims are so stuck inn stupid that they can't see what's hitting them.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (MINbv)
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I'm impresssed with how stupid the government and dems in particular seem to be. They destroyed the filibuster and now the republicans are using that to transform the courts. If they continue to go after Trump, or if they succeed, they all but guarantee the same weapon being used against their own team. This is not going to end well for the deep state. They are going to lose sooner or later. When they do, the longer it takes, the bloodier it will be. There are historical examples all over the globe. Someone referenced Ceausescu yesterday. That is a good example. Im not too worried about what happens to Trump at this point. I think that genie is now out of the bottle. The republicans are learning what happens when you oppose the base. Corker and Flake are recent examples. The likely election of Moore is another. The base is learning it can win. I doubt that they will be satisfied with status quo again.
Posted by: Drc at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (784ZQ)
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But that is not the issue. The issue is how they
frame thei opposition and what, if any, concrete actions they take. But
the muzzies in the street will go bat shit crazy since they have been
spoon fed anti-israel crap from birth. As I said there will be blood in
the streets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (5y11N)
So let it happen. And when the brainwashed muzzies riot in the streets of Amman, and Cairo, and Riyadh, let the the authoritarian governments' police machine-gun them where they stand, thereby cleansing the Arab gene pool, if ever so slightly.
The ones who didn't die in the riots will say to themselves, "well Jerusalem became the capital of Israel, and the world didn't end, and now I've got Achmed's young, hot widow to bang."
frame thei opposition and what, if any, concrete actions they take. But
the muzzies in the street will go bat shit crazy since they have been
spoon fed anti-israel crap from birth. As I said there will be blood in
the streets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 12:47 PM (5y11N)
So let it happen. And when the brainwashed muzzies riot in the streets of Amman, and Cairo, and Riyadh, let the the authoritarian governments' police machine-gun them where they stand, thereby cleansing the Arab gene pool, if ever so slightly.
The ones who didn't die in the riots will say to themselves, "well Jerusalem became the capital of Israel, and the world didn't end, and now I've got Achmed's young, hot widow to bang."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (oPNmq)
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how did rosenstein give mueller's office such broad, unlimited poweer. This is bullshit. Fuck the trap. Fire everyone, arrest most of them, and sue the shit out of the rest.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (TlvUt)
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Now that the FBI and it's parent the DOJ have been discredited (yet again), it appears Obama and the left have succeeded in the mid- to long-term goals.
Hillary walks a free person. Mueller utilizes the same corrupt individuals to further is "collusion" witch hunt. And as more of the surface is scratched, the more corruption and political bias we find where there should be neutrality.
How does an agency such as the FBI, or the DOJ as a whole come back this? As this Mueller/FBI/DOJ continues to unfold, they are further shown to be political hacks. What happened to being a premier law enforcement agency? There will always be a taint of mistrust -exponentially more than there was pre-2016.
Take a look around you. This is the new norm. And Obama, allowing governmental agencies to become political weapons -allowed this. He owns this.
Burn it. All of it.
Scatter the stones so no two are left on top of each other.
Salt the earth.
Hillary walks a free person. Mueller utilizes the same corrupt individuals to further is "collusion" witch hunt. And as more of the surface is scratched, the more corruption and political bias we find where there should be neutrality.
How does an agency such as the FBI, or the DOJ as a whole come back this? As this Mueller/FBI/DOJ continues to unfold, they are further shown to be political hacks. What happened to being a premier law enforcement agency? There will always be a taint of mistrust -exponentially more than there was pre-2016.
Take a look around you. This is the new norm. And Obama, allowing governmental agencies to become political weapons -allowed this. He owns this.
Burn it. All of it.
Scatter the stones so no two are left on top of each other.
Salt the earth.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (jxbfJ)
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oh and pardon flynn.
but then again, tossing the plea because it was acheived under false pretenses and fraud would be DELISH!!@$#!@#$@!
but then again, tossing the plea because it was acheived under false pretenses and fraud would be DELISH!!@$#!@#$@!
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (TlvUt)
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OT but what's happening with ANTIFA? They seem kind of quiet Are they waiting for more orders, or have their drugs run low?
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (nBr1j)
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"I want to have stuff like that come out and discredit him and his team and the entire investigation. I want the whole thing to go to its ugly end where their reputations are stained beyond cleansing - I want it to go straight to the Bunker Scene, as it were."
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM (hLRSq)
Absolutely right. I want him ruined. He fancies himself some sort of irreproachable, pedigreed gray eminence of the establishment. I want him absolutely destroyed, his reputation in tatters, a smeared disgrace and laughingstock.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM (hLRSq)
Absolutely right. I want him ruined. He fancies himself some sort of irreproachable, pedigreed gray eminence of the establishment. I want him absolutely destroyed, his reputation in tatters, a smeared disgrace and laughingstock.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (5msTp)
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Congress holds the power of the purse over Federal Agencies. That used to be significant.
Start cutting FBI funding.
If only.
Start cutting FBI funding.
If only.
Posted by: Robbie Reginald Cliffhanger at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (KdDCu)
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If Mueller is fired, that becomes the story.
If Mueller is still frantically searching for anything remotely resembling an unpaid traffic ticket, while the council investigating the DOJ/FBI turns up dozens of incidences of conflicts of interest, destroying evidence, and bribery, it might end up clearing out some of the corruption in our government.
If Mueller is still frantically searching for anything remotely resembling an unpaid traffic ticket, while the council investigating the DOJ/FBI turns up dozens of incidences of conflicts of interest, destroying evidence, and bribery, it might end up clearing out some of the corruption in our government.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (7ZVPa)
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Boy, that hearing will be a snooze-fest. Strzok,
McCabe and any other FBI agents there, will not be able to recall
details of any conversations they had or any on the job actions they
took over the past 5 years. They won't even be able to remember what
they had for breakfast that day. Liars gonna lie.
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM
Any fed who can't recall should be put on sick leave (until it is all used up) for brain damage, then a disability claim filed, then denied for no medical evidence and then fired and not allowed into the building while it is all pending and the forensic audit on their $(*# is being done by a fraud team for referral to a US attorney.
McCabe and any other FBI agents there, will not be able to recall
details of any conversations they had or any on the job actions they
took over the past 5 years. They won't even be able to remember what
they had for breakfast that day. Liars gonna lie.
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2017 01:23 PM
Any fed who can't recall should be put on sick leave (until it is all used up) for brain damage, then a disability claim filed, then denied for no medical evidence and then fired and not allowed into the building while it is all pending and the forensic audit on their $(*# is being done by a fraud team for referral to a US attorney.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (LfJIn)
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As always, the Tea Party was the polite request. Trump is the not so
polite request. Ignore Trump and there will be something that comes
after that.
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This.
Like AtC, I don't think Washington understands what's happening here. Trump isn't pretty, but what comes next is downright ugly.
polite request. Ignore Trump and there will be something that comes
after that.
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This.
Like AtC, I don't think Washington understands what's happening here. Trump isn't pretty, but what comes next is downright ugly.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (LISuA)
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I've noticed for awhile now that the more moderate of the GOP pundits do not seem to comprehend, in the slightly, how angry people are about the outright flaunting of any notion of accountability on the part of the FBI and other agencies and, more to the point, how utterly deserved and righteous that anger is.
Nothing seems to have changed since the election. Then it was "we didn't realize how angry people were about illegal immigration." Now they don't get it about this mess. They are so busy yelling at people, they don't listen. They are still clueless.
Nothing seems to have changed since the election. Then it was "we didn't realize how angry people were about illegal immigration." Now they don't get it about this mess. They are so busy yelling at people, they don't listen. They are still clueless.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (DZp0Z)
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We're all just women and the government is Danny Masterson.
Posted by: Sponge at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (xttKs)
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You let Hillary slide for the same thing you got the own guy here on lying. You really have nothing up your sleeve but your arm, right?"
Posted by: *Mikey NTH
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What difference, at this point, does it make??!/1/1!?!?!?/1/1/!?!?/?
*hic*
You let Hillary slide for the same thing you got the own guy here on lying. You really have nothing up your sleeve but your arm, right?"
Posted by: *Mikey NTH
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What difference, at this point, does it make??!/1/1!?!?!?/1/1/!?!?/?
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (qwWmT)
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>>how did rosenstein give mueller's office such broad, unlimited poweer. This is bullshit. Fuck the trap. Fire everyone, arrest most of them, and sue the shit out of the rest.
This is always the case with special counsels or special prosecutors. Remember Ken Starr? He didn't start off looking for stained blue dresses.
This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
This is always the case with special counsels or special prosecutors. Remember Ken Starr? He didn't start off looking for stained blue dresses.
This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (/tuJf)
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I've noticed for awhile now that the more moderate of the GOP pundits do not seem to comprehend, in the slightly, how angry people are about the outright flaunting of any notion of accountability on the part of the FBI and other agencies and, more to the point, how utterly deserved and righteous that anger is.
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ATC , they fully understand, however their paycheck requires them to how the positions they do
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ATC , they fully understand, however their paycheck requires them to how the positions they do
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (LnOh3)
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I was at the grocery store yesterday and overheard two of the produce managers talking about all of this and they were very angry. It made me feel good that at least people are noticing and talking about these corrupt agencies who hold themselves not accountable to anyone.
It is a small comfort but one nonetheless.
It is a small comfort but one nonetheless.
Posted by: Cheri at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (oiNtH)
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223 I hope Trump's health holds out.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
I'm familiar with this condition.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla and Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:14 PM (DZp0Z)
I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
I'm familiar with this condition.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (QC7iJ)
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you guys may not notice but the left is already in a James Hodgekins tizzy.
There is no playing by their rules.
Fuck em, fuck the trap.
Time for total war.
There is no playing by their rules.
Fuck em, fuck the trap.
Time for total war.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (TlvUt)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (WbIyz)
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I want him ruined. "
Indeed. Firing makes him a martyr. Better to let him destroy himself.
Indeed. Firing makes him a martyr. Better to let him destroy himself.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (MINbv)
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275 It's all smoke and bullshit until SOMEONE goes to jail for this shit.
Time to ruin some lives here, ladies and gentlemen. What they're doing is TREASON and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Sponge at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (xttKs)
You're so cute
Time to ruin some lives here, ladies and gentlemen. What they're doing is TREASON and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Sponge at December 05, 2017 01:26 PM (xttKs)
You're so cute
Posted by: Lois Learner Sucking Down Pina Coladas Under A Umbrella On A Beach at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (3/sUh)
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So let it happen. And when the brainwashed muzzies riot in the streets of Amman, and Cairo, and Riyadh, let the the authoritarian governments' police machine-gun them where they stand, thereby cleansing the Arab gene pool, if ever so slightly.
The ones who didn't die in the riots will say to themselves, "well Jerusalem became the capital of Israel, and the world didn't end, and now I've got Achmed's young, hot widow to bang."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (oPNmq)
Oh I agree but there will be blood in Israel and the West Bank also. Jewish Blood.
The ones who didn't die in the riots will say to themselves, "well Jerusalem became the capital of Israel, and the world didn't end, and now I've got Achmed's young, hot widow to bang."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (oPNmq)
Oh I agree but there will be blood in Israel and the West Bank also. Jewish Blood.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (5y11N)
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"oh, trump can't play by the lefts' rules because that would leave a lede that he was skeererd of Mueller"
meh, tough shit.
meh, tough shit.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (TlvUt)
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I want him ruined. He fancies himself some sort of irreproachable, pedigreed gray eminence of the establishment. I want him absolutely destroyed, his reputation in tatters, a smeared disgrace and laughingstock.
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The list of people who have to go to jail is long.
Comey has to go to jail.
Mueller, well, I'd settle for him living in a van, down by the river.
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The list of people who have to go to jail is long.
Comey has to go to jail.
Mueller, well, I'd settle for him living in a van, down by the river.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (dX9lC)
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Check out this hilarity.Is their any excuse they wont deploy for her?
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282592/
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282592/
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (LiyEm)
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If Mueller is still frantically searching for anything remotely resembling an unpaid traffic ticket, while the council investigating the DOJ/FBI turns up dozens of incidences of conflicts of interest, destroying evidence, and bribery, it might end up clearing out some of the corruption in our government.
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Or he actually finds something, no matter how remote or innocuous that the public clings too? Or it just makes Trump look weak and something else comes along that makes him weaker.
The problem is you just don't know what may happen. Why let it fester, when you can exert power now and have some purpose in doing so.
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Or he actually finds something, no matter how remote or innocuous that the public clings too? Or it just makes Trump look weak and something else comes along that makes him weaker.
The problem is you just don't know what may happen. Why let it fester, when you can exert power now and have some purpose in doing so.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (TlvUt)
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285 If Mueller is fired, that becomes the story.
If Mueller is still frantically searching for anything remotely resembling an unpaid traffic ticket, while the council investigating the DOJ/FBI turns up dozens of incidences of conflicts of interest, destroying evidence, and bribery, it might end up clearing out some of the corruption in our government.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (7ZVPa)
Yeah, but what happens when Ivanka is "BUT DADDYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!"ing after Mueller gets Jared's scalp?
If Mueller is still frantically searching for anything remotely resembling an unpaid traffic ticket, while the council investigating the DOJ/FBI turns up dozens of incidences of conflicts of interest, destroying evidence, and bribery, it might end up clearing out some of the corruption in our government.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (7ZVPa)
Yeah, but what happens when Ivanka is "BUT DADDYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!"ing after Mueller gets Jared's scalp?
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (WDCYi)
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Abbas urges Pope, Putin, Macron to stop Trumps Israel embassy announcement
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The Pope, Putin and Macron walk into a bar.
The bartender says, "Oy vey!"
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The Pope, Putin and Macron walk into a bar.
The bartender says, "Oy vey!"
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (7uYFy)
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They are still clueless.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (DZp0Z)
Yup. And I believe it's hopeless. It's a problem of educability. All they can understand at this point in their bent, corrupt world is fear and power.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:28 PM (DZp0Z)
Yup. And I believe it's hopeless. It's a problem of educability. All they can understand at this point in their bent, corrupt world is fear and power.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (5msTp)
308
282 OT but what's happening with ANTIFA? They seem kind of quiet Are they waiting for more orders, or have their drugs run low?
Posted by: Northernlurker,
Mom has grounded them until they apologize for not overthrowing the republic yet.
Posted by: Northernlurker,
Mom has grounded them until they apologize for not overthrowing the republic yet.
Posted by: zombie at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (42M22)
309
Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
Heh. Too true.
Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
Heh. Too true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (oPNmq)
310
This is always the case with special counsels or special prosecutors. Remember Ken Starr? He didn't start off looking for stained blue dresses.
This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
IIRC, Starr had to keep going back for expanded authority to follow leads. Mueller just got a blank check.
This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
IIRC, Starr had to keep going back for expanded authority to follow leads. Mueller just got a blank check.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (WbIyz)
311
Also, don't forget there has been an active OIG
investigation going on since January 12th and it also has an extremely
broad mandate to look into all kinds of corruption inside the DOJ.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:24 PM (/tuJf)
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This sounds right. That could easily be who is looking at phone texts for all involved, under color of investigating the politicization of the FBI and DOJ.
investigation going on since January 12th and it also has an extremely
broad mandate to look into all kinds of corruption inside the DOJ.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:24 PM (/tuJf)
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This sounds right. That could easily be who is looking at phone texts for all involved, under color of investigating the politicization of the FBI and DOJ.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:32 PM (LISuA)
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301 Mueller, well, I'd settle for him living in a van, down by the river.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (dX9lC)
I want him covered in human waste.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (dX9lC)
I want him covered in human waste.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:32 PM (WDCYi)
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This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel.
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I find them Constitutionally dubious, but of course, Trump is free to fire Mueller at any time. I'd do it.
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I find them Constitutionally dubious, but of course, Trump is free to fire Mueller at any time. I'd do it.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:32 PM (sX1BW)
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IIRC, Starr had to keep going back for expanded authority to follow leads. Mueller just got a blank check.
))))))
yes three panel judge thingy
IIRC, Starr had to keep going back for expanded authority to follow leads. Mueller just got a blank check.
))))))
yes three panel judge thingy
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:32 PM (TlvUt)
315
Szrkrptzklpqblah shaped nothing. He carried out orders. Szrkrptzklpqblah was Comey and McCabe's monkey and Comey and McCabe were Obama's monkeys. He was promoted, praised, assigned, puffed up, etc because he was a monkey. If we ever hear him say anything (probably pleading the Fifth) he will sound like a retard. He is nothing but a placed and favored bully and henchman.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (LfJIn)
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I think it's more likely that he is Clinton's little mole in the FBI. I'd love to have access to his personnel records. My guess is he was given a nice promotion and put on the fast track back when Bill Clinton was in office and Reno was running the DOJ. Clinton fired Bill Sessions, essentially, to get his guy in there and start building allies in the law enforcement agency. Louis J. Freeh took over, and we all saw how he handled the Vince Foster case.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 12:44 PM (LfJIn)
___________________________
I think it's more likely that he is Clinton's little mole in the FBI. I'd love to have access to his personnel records. My guess is he was given a nice promotion and put on the fast track back when Bill Clinton was in office and Reno was running the DOJ. Clinton fired Bill Sessions, essentially, to get his guy in there and start building allies in the law enforcement agency. Louis J. Freeh took over, and we all saw how he handled the Vince Foster case.
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2017 01:32 PM (iwDK0)
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Trump's not using Roger Stone wisely. He ought to have asked his dirty-tricks maestro to begin bread-crumbing Mueller, Inc. into dead-ends. Sham the investigation by making sport of it.
And Trump could begin the amusing charade by inserting one sentence into the middle of his next speech, in pitch-perfect Russian, and then switching without missing a beat back into English.
And Trump could begin the amusing charade by inserting one sentence into the middle of his next speech, in pitch-perfect Russian, and then switching without missing a beat back into English.
Posted by: Zod at December 05, 2017 01:32 PM (Bdeb0)
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313 This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel.
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully.
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
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Opps. NYT caught lying again, this time about KT McFarland's email about Russia.
https://tinyurl.com/y7yytdwk
Seems to me the left is taking at least as much damage right now as anyone.
https://tinyurl.com/y7yytdwk
Seems to me the left is taking at least as much damage right now as anyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (/tuJf)
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317 313 This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel.
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully.
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there's no actual crime but let's create a powerful, unaccountable prosecutor office.
That's fuckiong stupid
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully.
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there's no actual crime but let's create a powerful, unaccountable prosecutor office.
That's fuckiong stupid
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
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Like AtC, I don't think Washington understands what's happening here. Trump isn't pretty, but what comes next is downright ugly.
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In my opinion they do understand.
They think they can manage it.
They always think they can manage it.
That's been the problem all along.
To All:
Please stock up. Make friends. Join a Church - for the support if not the praying, but I hope you are praying.
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In my opinion they do understand.
They think they can manage it.
They always think they can manage it.
That's been the problem all along.
To All:
Please stock up. Make friends. Join a Church - for the support if not the praying, but I hope you are praying.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (AsykN)
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This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (/tuJf)
That was my exact thought. But in my head it was, "oh crap. Ken Starr redux but reversed."
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (/tuJf)
That was my exact thought. But in my head it was, "oh crap. Ken Starr redux but reversed."
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (DZp0Z)
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We're all just women and the government is Danny Masterson.
Posted by: Sponge at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (xttKs)
More like we're all trannies and the government is Danny Bonaduce.
Posted by: Sponge at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (xttKs)
More like we're all trannies and the government is Danny Bonaduce.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (kqsXK)
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309
Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
Heh. Too true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (oPNmq)
When and why did he cry? Did he get a bad haircut?
Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
Heh. Too true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (oPNmq)
When and why did he cry? Did he get a bad haircut?
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (nBr1j)
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This is always the case with special counsels or special prosecutors. Remember Ken Starr? He didn't start off looking for stained blue dresses.
This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (/tuJf)
Lurch Reno gave him permission to alter course. Don't forget that whoever took over Whitewater got quite a few felony scalps including the subsequent governor of Arkansas. Couldn't nail Slick because his whore girlfriend went to jail instead of giving the predator up for which she was rewarded with a pardon.
This is why people should think carefully before demanding a special counsel. They always stray from their lane.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:29 PM (/tuJf)
Lurch Reno gave him permission to alter course. Don't forget that whoever took over Whitewater got quite a few felony scalps including the subsequent governor of Arkansas. Couldn't nail Slick because his whore girlfriend went to jail instead of giving the predator up for which she was rewarded with a pardon.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (QC7iJ)
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Mxyzptlk seems to be the Clinton's go-to guy. He's the one that needs to be squeezed.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (WbIyz)
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Trump as POTUS has scrupulously followed the law?How is he "not pretty"? Because he Tweets?
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 01:35 PM (LiyEm)
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282 OT but what's happening with ANTIFA? They seem kind of quiet Are they waiting for more orders, or have their drugs run low?
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (nBr1j)
Antifa seems to be cooperating with Soros and his empire and the Soros empire is in transition. I don't think the old Kapo is too far from his date with Satan's barbed cock. So, the kids are probably keeping things quiet while they settle in and make preparations for the election year. Rest assured, though, all the lefty thugs will be out for the elections and it will get nasty.
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (nBr1j)
Antifa seems to be cooperating with Soros and his empire and the Soros empire is in transition. I don't think the old Kapo is too far from his date with Satan's barbed cock. So, the kids are probably keeping things quiet while they settle in and make preparations for the election year. Rest assured, though, all the lefty thugs will be out for the elections and it will get nasty.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:35 PM (RD7QR)
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>>IIRC, Starr had to keep going back for expanded authority to follow leads. Mueller just got a blank check.
Yes. And Comey had to go to a multi-judge FISA court to get wiretaps.
Kabuki.
Yes. And Comey had to go to a multi-judge FISA court to get wiretaps.
Kabuki.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:35 PM (/tuJf)
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How is he "not pretty"? Because he Tweets?
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He is not classically handsome.
But then again, he is not effeminate like our last president.
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He is not classically handsome.
But then again, he is not effeminate like our last president.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:36 PM (sX1BW)
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....and now I've got Achmed's young, hot GOAT to bang."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (oPNmq)
FIFY
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:27 PM (oPNmq)
FIFY
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 05, 2017 01:36 PM (jxbfJ)
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I think he thrives on hatred like I do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
Yes. The Left can't even begin to comprehend. The more they go after him, the more they get twisted into flaming knots of humiliation. And then the more they go after him. Like moths on meth to the flame.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)
Yes. The Left can't even begin to comprehend. The more they go after him, the more they get twisted into flaming knots of humiliation. And then the more they go after him. Like moths on meth to the flame.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's apprentice at December 05, 2017 01:36 PM (5msTp)
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248 Screw "threatening" contempt. JUST FREAKIN DO IT!!!!
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (iwDK0)
I know, right?
Posted by: Orson at December 05, 2017 01:21 PM (iwDK0)
I know, right?
Posted by: Tuco at December 05, 2017 01:36 PM (5sQ8t)
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Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
When Justin Trudeau of Canuckistan cries and nobody cares, does he make a sound?
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
When Justin Trudeau of Canuckistan cries and nobody cares, does he make a sound?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 05, 2017 01:37 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2017 01:37 PM (2WITp)
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Trump has done,or is trying to do just about everything conservatives have purportedly wanted to do for years...
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 01:37 PM (LiyEm)
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"Mueller, well, I'd settle for him living in a van, down by the river."
Huh? Mueller was Comey before Comey.
He's there to continue the crime spree started during his tenure of the FBI. He has a reason to make sure that nobody starts looking into things that happened during his time there.
Not to mention he's currently trying to overthrow a duly elected president.
He needs to be in prison too along with Rosenstein and the rest.
Huh? Mueller was Comey before Comey.
He's there to continue the crime spree started during his tenure of the FBI. He has a reason to make sure that nobody starts looking into things that happened during his time there.
Not to mention he's currently trying to overthrow a duly elected president.
He needs to be in prison too along with Rosenstein and the rest.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:37 PM (03xNs)
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Folks it is less than a week until the option to file to run against an incumbent passes. Even if you don't think you can win file anyway. In two weeks our betters without a primary opponent will be voting against the things they ran on.
Anybody on the right with an opponent will not vote for amnesty.
Anybody on the right with an opponent will not vote for amnesty.
Posted by: DanMan at December 05, 2017 01:38 PM (XTiHL)
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Mueller's mandate is essentially to bring Trump down. This was clear from the beginning of the appointment. His only goal is to find some criminal wrongdoing by Trump and associates.
My guess is that Trump is squeaky clean, so Mueller will be going after associates and knocking them off at every opportunity.
My guess is that Trump is squeaky clean, so Mueller will be going after associates and knocking them off at every opportunity.
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:38 PM (LnOh3)
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Kabuki.
Sure, but, the point was that Ken Starr didn't just go out mining for crime. He had a specific job and had to get approval from l;awful authority to expand it.
Going rogue is a particularly Democratic trait in prosecutors.
Sure, but, the point was that Ken Starr didn't just go out mining for crime. He had a specific job and had to get approval from l;awful authority to expand it.
Going rogue is a particularly Democratic trait in prosecutors.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 01:38 PM (WbIyz)
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Trump has done,or is trying to do just about everything conservatives have purportedly wanted to do for years...
Posted by: steevy
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THERE'S your problem.
Posted by: steevy
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THERE'S your problem.
Posted by: The GOPe at December 05, 2017 01:38 PM (7ZVPa)
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I grow tarnished and rusty.
Posted by: Federal Handcuffs at December 05, 2017 01:38 PM (r9UYA)
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Ok Ace, now we have something to talk about .
This post by you today .is. THE. ballgame.
As well-intentioned , reasoned and balanced as Jack Straw et al have and continue to be on the general subject of the FBI, Sessions, etc,etc.....
What Ace wrote must happen--ie a letter is written by Nunes(it sure as hell willNever happen if Ryan or Turtle are involved) and states categorically that Nunes was denied, deceived, and denigrated(and by extension Congress itself ) by Rosenstein and the FBI and that Rosenstein and his merry band of saboteurs must go. NOW.
PDT dumps Mueller based on Nunes' letter....and The Deep State's Fail Safe(imo) Jefff Sessionszzz.z....
And the 2018 election season opens with a Big Bang. ....
Trumpster style!
And Nunes goes into the Deplorable Hall of Fame..
This post by you today .is. THE. ballgame.
As well-intentioned , reasoned and balanced as Jack Straw et al have and continue to be on the general subject of the FBI, Sessions, etc,etc.....
What Ace wrote must happen--ie a letter is written by Nunes(it sure as hell willNever happen if Ryan or Turtle are involved) and states categorically that Nunes was denied, deceived, and denigrated(and by extension Congress itself ) by Rosenstein and the FBI and that Rosenstein and his merry band of saboteurs must go. NOW.
PDT dumps Mueller based on Nunes' letter....and The Deep State's Fail Safe(imo) Jefff Sessionszzz.z....
And the 2018 election season opens with a Big Bang. ....
Trumpster style!
And Nunes goes into the Deplorable Hall of Fame..
Posted by: Redgrains at December 05, 2017 01:38 PM (WPxnj)
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I think the big difference between investigations by a House Committee during the Obama regime and today is that the DoJ apparatchiks are now outflanked by an active DoJ IG. Obama would have never allowed that to happen. Whoever the IG is now, he has the support of the AG and President Trump. That IG investigation and the report is gonna be a killer (metaphorically speaking).
Posted by: mrp at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (UTsc2)
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This is NOT the hill to die on. Definitely not!
Posted by: GOPe at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (vJK7T)
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there's no actual crime but let's create a powerful, unaccountable prosecutor office.
That's fuckiong stupid
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
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It's fuckiong criminal.
That's fuckiong stupid
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
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It's fuckiong criminal.
Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (03xNs)
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316. He needs to tweet out photos of himself in an Adidas tracksuit, eating sunflower seeds, squatting outside some '70's era stack-a-prole Soviet apartment building.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (fA1SL)
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I don't think the old Kapo is too far from his date with Satan's barbed cock.
He looks more disgusting than a cat's ass. I think he's trying to give Satan ED.
He looks more disgusting than a cat's ass. I think he's trying to give Satan ED.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (QC7iJ)
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Let's just say Trump ain't Bush the W"
Thank God.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (MINbv)
Trump ain't Nixon either. They'll never get him to resign for "the good of the nation."
I take solace in this fact.
Thank God.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:22 PM (MINbv)
Trump ain't Nixon either. They'll never get him to resign for "the good of the nation."
I take solace in this fact.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (7uYFy)
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Mueller, well, I'd settle for him living in a van, down by the river.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (dX9lC)
I want him covered in human waste.
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He reminds me of John Kerry.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM (dX9lC)
I want him covered in human waste.
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He reminds me of John Kerry.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (vg8iE)
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Posted by: Lois Learner Sucking Down Pina Coladas Under A Umbrella On A Beach
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I hope you're not wearing a bikini, for the other guest's sake.
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I hope you're not wearing a bikini, for the other guest's sake.
Posted by: wth at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (2WITp)
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Justin Trudeau cries, wondering why nobody asked HIM.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
Heh. Too true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (oPNmq)
When and why did he cry? Did he get a bad haircut?
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (nBr1j)
Somebody took away his binkie.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 12:58 PM (WDCYi)
Heh. Too true.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:31 PM (oPNmq)
When and why did he cry? Did he get a bad haircut?
Posted by: Northernlurker, glad to be only lurking at December 05, 2017 01:34 PM (nBr1j)
Somebody took away his binkie.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (kqsXK)
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Th corrupt IOC has barred Russia from participating in the next winter Olympics. Lets see how that turns out. My own bet is that once the bribes are fully paid the IOC judgment will be dialed down somewhat.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (LISuA)
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The same half of the country that just wants to be left alone is pissed off as hell over the lack of accountability and facing consequences from the other half.
I don't see how the center holds in our country.
I don't see how the center holds in our country.
Posted by: Monk at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: dagny at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (eO5CB)
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>>Sure, but, the point was that Ken Starr didn't just go out mining for crime. He had a specific job and had to get approval from l;awful authority to expand it.
Yea but Mueller doesn't have an unlimited mandate either. People can say it's too broad but it is not unlimited and if he wants to go beyond that he too will have to get approval.
Yea but Mueller doesn't have an unlimited mandate either. People can say it's too broad but it is not unlimited and if he wants to go beyond that he too will have to get approval.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (/tuJf)
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Jack Straw. I love you, but no homo! Your insight is really helpful and makes me hopeful.
Posted by: Bosk at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (fjMEv)
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344 Hi,
I'd like to announce I'm running for Congress.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (UTsc2)
If your platform is "Tits, Guns, Recipes, and Dick Jokes" you have my vote whether or not I live in your district.
I'd like to announce I'm running for Congress.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (UTsc2)
If your platform is "Tits, Guns, Recipes, and Dick Jokes" you have my vote whether or not I live in your district.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:41 PM (RD7QR)
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
The arrogant rarely do.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
The arrogant rarely do.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:41 PM (hLRSq)
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Does Congress have the power to tell a DOJ official to produce the requested data now or call an underling to hand deliver this in 30 minutes or go to jail? Repeat down the chain of command every 30 minutes until the info arrives or every DOJ official is jailed. Then use the same excuses the DOJ used to delay the info to delay their release?
Posted by: Downcast at December 05, 2017 01:41 PM (PYs9T)
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Yesterday I suggested half-jokingly that Trump pardon Scooter Libby. Well why not?
We can predict the reaction of the MFM. They couldn't shut up. Because they couldn't shut up it presents an opportunity to criticize the Mueller circus by pointing out the absurdity of "process crimes" when no underlying crime has been substantiated. Points out the injustice and unfairness. Kinda like Flynn. It presents an opportunity to give those paying attention, a different framework to view Mueller. Wasn't Libby essentially convicted of telling Tim Russert something different than what he told the FBI?
Also it would be fun to stick to the Bushes and GOPe, et. al.: doing what they wouldn't do for Libby [commuted sentence not pardon].
We can predict the reaction of the MFM. They couldn't shut up. Because they couldn't shut up it presents an opportunity to criticize the Mueller circus by pointing out the absurdity of "process crimes" when no underlying crime has been substantiated. Points out the injustice and unfairness. Kinda like Flynn. It presents an opportunity to give those paying attention, a different framework to view Mueller. Wasn't Libby essentially convicted of telling Tim Russert something different than what he told the FBI?
Also it would be fun to stick to the Bushes and GOPe, et. al.: doing what they wouldn't do for Libby [commuted sentence not pardon].
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (hKi6n)
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The corrupt IOC has barred Russia from participating in the next winter Olympics.
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Given that any gender can compete in any event, will anyone even watch?
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Given that any gender can compete in any event, will anyone even watch?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (7ZVPa)
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As the number of hot, southern chicks increases, the probability of an event being enjoyable approaches 100%.
That's my theory for today.
That's my theory for today.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (gaYzo)
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Mueller basically has an unlimited mandate, if only by virtue of that phrase "and all other related matters."
Who is going to hold him to account for what is "related?" The GOPe? The Democrats? The MSM?
Who is going to hold him to account for what is "related?" The GOPe? The Democrats? The MSM?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (PFy0L)
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How are Trump's bank records related to Mueller's mandate? Will Trump (or Deutsche Bank) move to quash Mueller's subpoena?
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (cAXIk)
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>>Jack Straw. I love you, but no homo! Your insight is really helpful and makes me hopeful.
No spooning.
No spooning.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (/tuJf)
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Nunes seems like an honorable guy who isn't worried about political gain.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (7uYFy)
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
The arrogant rarely do.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:41 PM (hLRSq)
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That's uh not uh who we uh are.
Posted by: porg herder at December 05, 2017 01:33 PM (TlvUt)
The arrogant rarely do.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Feel the Rocket's Red Glare with a Lil' Hoister Petard from the Outrage Outlet! at December 05, 2017 01:41 PM (hLRSq)
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That's uh not uh who we uh are.
Posted by: Barry! at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (vg8iE)
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Oh I agree but there will be blood in Israel and the West Bank also. Jewish Blood.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM
I think it will start. But if Prince Mo of the House of Saud has cut off the martyr money it will be less than perhaps expected. They don't usually blow up their kids or send them out to be squished by tanks for free. Without a little sumpin' sumpin money they won't show in big numbers.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2017 01:30 PM
I think it will start. But if Prince Mo of the House of Saud has cut off the martyr money it will be less than perhaps expected. They don't usually blow up their kids or send them out to be squished by tanks for free. Without a little sumpin' sumpin money they won't show in big numbers.
Posted by: Lester at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (LfJIn)
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Does Congress have the power to tell a DOJ official to produce the requested data now or call an underling to hand deliver this in 30 minutes or go to jail?
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He who has the gold has the power.
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He who has the gold has the power.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (sX1BW)
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Rosenstein et al did not think carefully
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He knew exactly what he was doing. He wanted somebody in a position with near equal power to the President.
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He knew exactly what he was doing. He wanted somebody in a position with near equal power to the President.
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (LnOh3)
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I think Rosenstein thought it through,he's not on Trump's side.
Posted by: steevy at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (LiyEm)
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I'd like to announce I'm running for Congress.
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (UTsc2)
If your platform is "Tits, Guns, Recipes, and Dick Jokes" you have my vote whether or not I live in your district.
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Tits, Guns, Recipes, Dick Jokes and a new and improved Voting System
*Wink Wink Nod Nod*
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:39 PM (UTsc2)
If your platform is "Tits, Guns, Recipes, and Dick Jokes" you have my vote whether or not I live in your district.
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Tits, Guns, Recipes, Dick Jokes and a new and improved Voting System
*Wink Wink Nod Nod*
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:43 PM (QUy8f)
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Trump as POTUS has scrupulously followed the law?How is he "not pretty"?
Trump being "pretty", Pretty = nice way to ask
Ugly = we are no longer asking
Trump being "pretty", Pretty = nice way to ask
Ugly = we are no longer asking
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 01:43 PM (vVRlw)
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Why are we (the people on the right in congress) having trouble getting information from us (the people on the right in the administration)?
Why doesn't Trump sit in on a televised congressional investigation? When the chairman asks where the FBI or IRS documents are and he receives a bullshit answer from the head of those agencies, Trump can simply fire their ass on the spot and move on to the next person in line.
Keep firing until the documents arrive.
The people in the country would understand this. They would cheer it on and start to regain some confidence in the government.
Why doesn't Trump sit in on a televised congressional investigation? When the chairman asks where the FBI or IRS documents are and he receives a bullshit answer from the head of those agencies, Trump can simply fire their ass on the spot and move on to the next person in line.
Keep firing until the documents arrive.
The people in the country would understand this. They would cheer it on and start to regain some confidence in the government.
Posted by: Jwest at December 05, 2017 01:43 PM (/roJx)
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As the number of hot, southern chicks increases, the probability of an event being enjoyable approaches 100%.
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Almost right
As the number of hot, southern chicks increases, the probability of an event being enjoyable approaches 100%.
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Almost right
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 05, 2017 01:44 PM (LISuA)
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How are Trump's bank records related to Mueller's mandate? Will Trump (or Deutsche Bank) move to quash Mueller's subpoena?
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (cAXIk)
I bet Trump has already had his people comb through his financial records to make sure Mueller ain't getting anything. Probably had it done before he decide to run.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 05, 2017 01:42 PM (cAXIk)
I bet Trump has already had his people comb through his financial records to make sure Mueller ain't getting anything. Probably had it done before he decide to run.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:44 PM (7uYFy)
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Pretty broad mandate.
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i)
any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(c)
(ii)
any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii)
any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d)
Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are
applicable to the Special Counsel.
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i)
any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(c)
(ii)
any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii)
any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d)
Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are
applicable to the Special Counsel.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 05, 2017 01:45 PM (WbIyz)
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Yea but Mueller doesn't have an unlimited mandate either. People can say it's too broad but it is not unlimited and if he wants to go beyond that he too will have to get approval.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (/tuJf)
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OK, but approval how, by whom? Does Rosenstein have to sign-off on every search warrant and subpoena request by Mueller's outfit? In other words: Who guards the camp's walls? And are those guards trustworthy?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:40 PM (/tuJf)
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OK, but approval how, by whom? Does Rosenstein have to sign-off on every search warrant and subpoena request by Mueller's outfit? In other words: Who guards the camp's walls? And are those guards trustworthy?
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2017 01:45 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2017 01:45 PM (ymnmz)
381
Ummm. whats the add on this page for Silk Protein Nutmilk
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Ooops. That was me!
*hee heee hee*
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Ooops. That was me!
*hee heee hee*
Posted by: Shep! at December 05, 2017 01:46 PM (vg8iE)
382
380 Ummm. whats the add on this page for Silk Protein Nutmilk?
Umm No thanks
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2017 01:45 PM (ymnmz)
So somewhere out there is a very dehydrated farmer?
Umm No thanks
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 05, 2017 01:45 PM (ymnmz)
So somewhere out there is a very dehydrated farmer?
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:46 PM (RD7QR)
383
I LOVE nutmilk!
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 05, 2017 01:46 PM (NWiLs)
384
Yea but Mueller doesn't have an unlimited mandate either. People can say it's too broad but it is not unlimited and if he wants to go beyond that he too will have to get approval.
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Manafort. Charges not related to anything within his supposed scope of investigation. Yet, he is under indictment, and could potentially be placed under house arrest.
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Manafort. Charges not related to anything within his supposed scope of investigation. Yet, he is under indictment, and could potentially be placed under house arrest.
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:47 PM (LnOh3)
385
I saw Silk Protein Nutmilk open for Culture Club at the Bag O' Nails in '84.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 05, 2017 01:47 PM (kqsXK)
386
I LOVE nutmilk!
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 05, 2017 01:46 PM (NWiLs)
Perverts! The whole lot!
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 05, 2017 01:46 PM (NWiLs)
Perverts! The whole lot!
Posted by: Ficus at December 05, 2017 01:47 PM (wf3RQ)
387
Mueller has unlimited power until someone boxes him back in.
Posted by: SH at December 05, 2017 01:48 PM (sX1BW)
388
How does the US FBI subpoena a German bank's records? Is the bank in the US?
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 01:48 PM (yP91S)
389
388 How does the US FBI subpoena a German bank's records? Is the bank in the US?
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 01:48 PM (yP91S)
I doubt the Germans would have a reason not to cooperate.
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2017 01:48 PM (yP91S)
I doubt the Germans would have a reason not to cooperate.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (RD7QR)
390
Late to the thread, but meh - wake me when either the shooting starts, or someone goes to jail.
Sick of this shit.
More ineffective posturing by the GOPe.
Sick of this shit.
More ineffective posturing by the GOPe.
Posted by: Rhubarb Ranch at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (WABax)
Posted by: Dang, getting really concerned at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (8b+oT)
392
Contempt of Congress is great IF followed through with an actual Senate trial and some imprisonment.
There are more Republican Senators than Democrats, this shouldn't be THAT hard.
There are more Republican Senators than Democrats, this shouldn't be THAT hard.
Posted by: Janir at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (K7JFG)
393
Everyone take a deep breath. After all, Sarah Huckabee Sanders may NOT have actually baked that pie after all ... let's keep that on the front burner, media.
Posted by: Christian Toto at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (GppXG)
394
Is there such a thing as triple secret probation?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM (vChNs)
395
Maybe our Christmas gift this year will be Pres DJT firing the lot of them - Mueller, Rosenstein, Strozk and his girlfriend, every single one of them. Restore the rule of law and punish the lawbreakers.
Posted by: Boots at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM (EBwPV)
396
Too many negatives there. Let's try this: the Germans would help out, I guess, because they want our cooperation with their investigations and there's probably a treaty about that.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM (RD7QR)
397
391 Rep. Devin Nunes Explodes
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You know who else explodes? ISIS suicide bombers.
That's who.
Posted by: Dang, getting really concerned at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (8b+oT)
Chipotle customers.
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You know who else explodes? ISIS suicide bombers.
That's who.
Posted by: Dang, getting really concerned at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (8b+oT)
Chipotle customers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM (NWiLs)
398
Rosenstein's wife represented one William J CLinton back in 1989
Posted by: CN at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM (aT+Bx)
400
To me it's just this simple:
Feminists, Democratic Women, Leftist Chicks hung their entire feminist agenda on on putrid vile horrendous thing--infanticide by tortuous dismemberment for the sake of convenience. This was a big fat honking signal to male sleaze bags that as long as they supported infanticide by tortuous dismemberment (Which suited them just fine, BTW, because who wants to pay support for some whore's kid, amirite??), they could pretty much do whatever they wanted to those women--including rape, and any other vile debased behavior that suited their sick fancies.
Leftist woman bought and paid for their own mistreatment at the hands of scumbags with the blood and shattered tissue of their unborn children.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a gleeful heart
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I missed this earlier, but I could not let it go by without offering . . .
*golf clap*
seriously the " Republican War on Women". Can. You. Even?
What about that stupid Cartoon they put out about Sally and her health care? Remember that sh!+ ? Someone should re do it so it includes a panel with Sally getting knocked up in an Elevator by John Conyers . . .
Feminists, Democratic Women, Leftist Chicks hung their entire feminist agenda on on putrid vile horrendous thing--infanticide by tortuous dismemberment for the sake of convenience. This was a big fat honking signal to male sleaze bags that as long as they supported infanticide by tortuous dismemberment (Which suited them just fine, BTW, because who wants to pay support for some whore's kid, amirite??), they could pretty much do whatever they wanted to those women--including rape, and any other vile debased behavior that suited their sick fancies.
Leftist woman bought and paid for their own mistreatment at the hands of scumbags with the blood and shattered tissue of their unborn children.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a gleeful heart
=============
I missed this earlier, but I could not let it go by without offering . . .
*golf clap*
seriously the " Republican War on Women". Can. You. Even?
What about that stupid Cartoon they put out about Sally and her health care? Remember that sh!+ ? Someone should re do it so it includes a panel with Sally getting knocked up in an Elevator by John Conyers . . .
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 01:51 PM (uoKqA)
401
>>> Deutche Bank.
I read that as Douche Bank.
I read that as Douche Bank.
Posted by: Rhubarb Ranch at December 05, 2017 01:52 PM (WABax)
402
389 I doubt the Germans would have a reason not to cooperate.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (RD7QR)
You open the floodgates for Tens of Millions of Muslims to be settled in the US, Deutsche Bank refuses to comply.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (RD7QR)
You open the floodgates for Tens of Millions of Muslims to be settled in the US, Deutsche Bank refuses to comply.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:52 PM (WDCYi)
403
BREAKING NEWS: Russia banned from Winter Olympics, Matt Lauer allowed WITH PRECAUTIONS
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 05, 2017 01:52 PM (yRgC6)
404
Rep. Devin Nunes Explodes
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You know who else explodes? ISIS suicide bombers.
That's who.
Posted by: Dang, getting really concerned at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (8b+oT)
Chipotle customers.
Posted by: Insomniac
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lol!
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You know who else explodes? ISIS suicide bombers.
That's who.
Posted by: Dang, getting really concerned at December 05, 2017 01:49 PM (8b+oT)
Chipotle customers.
Posted by: Insomniac
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lol!
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 01:53 PM (8b+oT)
405
Is there such a thing as triple secret probation?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM
I could tell you, but then I'd have to put you on it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 05, 2017 01:50 PM
I could tell you, but then I'd have to put you on it.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at December 05, 2017 01:53 PM (ctuyM)
406
402 You open the floodgates for Tens of Millions of Muslims to be settled in the US, Deutsche Bank refuses to comply.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:52 PM (WDCYi)
That was supposed to be attributed to Mutti Merkel.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:52 PM (WDCYi)
That was supposed to be attributed to Mutti Merkel.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 05, 2017 01:53 PM (WDCYi)
407
Is the bank in the US?"
Yes. And FWIW, the subpoena was weeks ago - DB just now releasing the info.
Had there been anything there, it would've been out long ago...
Yes. And FWIW, the subpoena was weeks ago - DB just now releasing the info.
Had there been anything there, it would've been out long ago...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:53 PM (MINbv)
408
When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
409
Sessions has a OIG investigating DOJ and FBI for the past 11 months. This is how they discovered Strzok. Mueller and company have allowed the new admin to learn who all the connected sleazebags are. Pass the Tax Bill, elect Moore and then begin the Pit of Misery by letting the OIG Report indict Mueller and company. I imagine these will make wonderful Congressional hearings. They certainly will be televised. Treason against the people is ugly business.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (YV+SU)
410
how about...
every day it takes these requests to be fulfilled, the FBI budget for next year goes down by 1 percent.
every day it takes these requests to be fulfilled, the FBI budget for next year goes down by 1 percent.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (vChNs)
411
OT/ For TWD fans.
Just read that "Rick" actor wanted to do wrestling scene with the zombie naked...except for his boots. They made him wear underwear.
What is it about men that they want to share their junk with the world.
Just read that "Rick" actor wanted to do wrestling scene with the zombie naked...except for his boots. They made him wear underwear.
What is it about men that they want to share their junk with the world.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (WEFox)
412
Question: If House does issue Contempt charges against Rosenstein and Trump uses that to fire him, would the #3 (the former Chamber of Commerce attorney) just move up and take over the SC oversight, or could Trump use the Vacancies Act and replace w someone already vetted by Senate (as he did w Mick Mulvaney and the cfpb) to hold the spot until he could get someone actually loyal to the (right, not left) cause? IOW, could Scott Pruitt wear the DOJ hat as #2, plus EPA?
Posted by: Ever at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (wQ1Qo)
Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)
414
Rosenstein and wife are loyal Clintonistas
Posted by: CN at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (5gaNQ)
415
>>OK, but approval how, by whom? Does Rosenstein have to sign-off on every search warrant and subpoena request by Mueller's outfit? In other words: Who guards the camp's walls? And are those guards trustworthy?
I believe it is Rosenstein. Not an ideal situation I agree but he would have trouble approving something that went too far afield and besides, he has other exposure to worry about.
Rosenstein was the Chief Federal Prosecutor in Maryland when the DOJ was prosecuting one of the first Russians in the Uranium One scandal. For some reason, and I think I know the reason, William Campbell was not interviewed by the DOJ or used despite him being the best source of information available. The DOJ referred to him as a victim in court documents and not a witness.
It was a really bizarre move at the time but it is starting to make sense with the Uranium One scandal breaking. The DOJ started briefing the Senate last week on this mess and William Campbell will testify before them in the coming weeks. That is going to put some FBI and DOJ people in some seriously awkward positions and one of them is Rosenstein.
I believe it is Rosenstein. Not an ideal situation I agree but he would have trouble approving something that went too far afield and besides, he has other exposure to worry about.
Rosenstein was the Chief Federal Prosecutor in Maryland when the DOJ was prosecuting one of the first Russians in the Uranium One scandal. For some reason, and I think I know the reason, William Campbell was not interviewed by the DOJ or used despite him being the best source of information available. The DOJ referred to him as a victim in court documents and not a witness.
It was a really bizarre move at the time but it is starting to make sense with the Uranium One scandal breaking. The DOJ started briefing the Senate last week on this mess and William Campbell will testify before them in the coming weeks. That is going to put some FBI and DOJ people in some seriously awkward positions and one of them is Rosenstein.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (/tuJf)
416
408 When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
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Going to be an early night, huh?
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
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Going to be an early night, huh?
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (LnOh3)
417
When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
Heh. Gonna be an early night.
When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
Heh. Gonna be an early night.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (oPNmq)
418
Is the bank in the US?"
Yes. And FWIW, the subpoena was weeks ago - DB just now releasing the info.
Had there been anything there, it would've been out long ago...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:53 PM (MINbv
Sometimes I think they are just keeping this thing going because by this point, they are just trying to figure out how to let all the people who dream about Trump's impending impeachment down easy. They created such expectation that anything less than Trump's orange head on a pike is going to be a huge let down....
Yes. And FWIW, the subpoena was weeks ago - DB just now releasing the info.
Had there been anything there, it would've been out long ago...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:53 PM (MINbv
Sometimes I think they are just keeping this thing going because by this point, they are just trying to figure out how to let all the people who dream about Trump's impending impeachment down easy. They created such expectation that anything less than Trump's orange head on a pike is going to be a huge let down....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (7uYFy)
419
Reuters reports that Trump has $130 million of loans with Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas.
"The Deutsche debts include a loan exceeding $50 million for the Old Post Office, a historic property he redeveloped in downtown Washington, mortgages worth more than $55 million on a golf course in Florida, and a $25 million-plus loan on a Trump hotel and condominium in Chicago, the disclosure shows."
These are boring real estate loans, and in the scheme of what Trump owns, not that substantial.
The spin is that the Russians bought some of these loans and so may have leverage over Trump. If so, it's bullshit.
Someone leaked the subpoena. It's probably Mueller, and it's a sign he's running out of possible charges.
"The Deutsche debts include a loan exceeding $50 million for the Old Post Office, a historic property he redeveloped in downtown Washington, mortgages worth more than $55 million on a golf course in Florida, and a $25 million-plus loan on a Trump hotel and condominium in Chicago, the disclosure shows."
These are boring real estate loans, and in the scheme of what Trump owns, not that substantial.
The spin is that the Russians bought some of these loans and so may have leverage over Trump. If so, it's bullshit.
Someone leaked the subpoena. It's probably Mueller, and it's a sign he's running out of possible charges.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (cAXIk)
420
by letting the OIG Report indict Mueller and company"
I'm thinking along similar lines. President Trump knows the answers, and is chuckling to himself daily.
I'm thinking along similar lines. President Trump knows the answers, and is chuckling to himself daily.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 01:57 PM (MINbv)
421
I see Bill has lost his delicate touch. All this not winning must wear a man down.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:57 PM (RD7QR)
422
I wonder if Mueller will release the paperwork for the impeachment of Trump the same day that the OIG releases the indictment paperwork for Mueller?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:57 PM (7ZVPa)
423
Bank article from ZeroHedge:
https://tinyurl.com/ydylb8d4
Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)
I'll save you all the trouble---"It's the Joooos!!"
https://tinyurl.com/ydylb8d4
Posted by: shibumi at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)
I'll save you all the trouble---"It's the Joooos!!"
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:57 PM (7uYFy)
424
Just read that "Rick" actor wanted to do wrestling
scene with the zombie naked...except for his boots. They made him wear
underwear.
What is it about men that they want to share their junk with the world.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (WEFox)
Was the zombie female, and hawt?
scene with the zombie naked...except for his boots. They made him wear
underwear.
What is it about men that they want to share their junk with the world.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (WEFox)
Was the zombie female, and hawt?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (oPNmq)
425
JackStraw - Thanks for the info in comment 415.
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (/tuJf)
427
John Conyers on an elevator...
"You going down? Because I'm going up." *glances down at his boner*
"You going down? Because I'm going up." *glances down at his boner*
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (8b+oT)
428
Is the bank in the US?
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Nope. Big German bank. Deutche Bank.
Or however you spell it.
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It's the old Bankers Trust Company of New York. Taken over by Deutsche Bank in 1999.
Is the bank in the US?
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Nope. Big German bank. Deutche Bank.
Or however you spell it.
======================
It's the old Bankers Trust Company of New York. Taken over by Deutsche Bank in 1999.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (LISuA)
429
I believe it is Rosenstein. Not an ideal situation I agree but he would have trouble approving something that went too far afield and besides, he has other exposure to worry about.
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Why should Rosenstein care?
Mueller comes to him asking for expanded authority, what risk does he have approving? None.
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Why should Rosenstein care?
Mueller comes to him asking for expanded authority, what risk does he have approving? None.
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 01:59 PM (LnOh3)
430
I bet Trump has already had his people comb through his financial records to make sure Mueller ain't getting anything. Probably had it done before he decide to run.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:44 PM (7uYFy)
That and Deutsche Bank isn't exactly going roll over for Muller.
I bet Trump has already had his people comb through his financial records to make sure Mueller ain't getting anything. Probably had it done before he decide to run.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:44 PM (7uYFy)
That and Deutsche Bank isn't exactly going roll over for Muller.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 05, 2017 01:59 PM (lKyWE)
431
Nood Strzok. Not to put an unwelcome image in your heads.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 05, 2017 01:59 PM (RD7QR)
432
>>When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn
Joe Scarborough, is that you?
Posted by: Bill Wynn
Joe Scarborough, is that you?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 05, 2017 01:59 PM (W+vEI)
433
John Roberts, Fox, just reported that there has been no subpoena issued to Deutchse Bank, per source who should know.... fake news as always
Posted by: blackstone at December 05, 2017 01:59 PM (MztjN)
434
Huh. Fox is now reporting that Mueller did NOT issue a subpoena to Deutsche Bank.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (/tuJf)
Maybe the Krauts told him to go pound sand?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (/tuJf)
Maybe the Krauts told him to go pound sand?
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:59 PM (7uYFy)
435
>>JackStraw - Thanks for the info in comment 415.
No problem. If you are interested here is a great write up.
https://tinyurl.com/yc4h9xaj
A lot of stuff is coming to a head and a lot of the same players keep showing up. Unexpectedly.
No problem. If you are interested here is a great write up.
https://tinyurl.com/yc4h9xaj
A lot of stuff is coming to a head and a lot of the same players keep showing up. Unexpectedly.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)
436
Rosenstein carried Clintons' water before in Filegate and Whitewater. He's a turdball
Posted by: CN at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (5gaNQ)
437
417
When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
Heh. Gonna be an early night.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (oPNmq)
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MAGA, the THUNDER THIEF!
When Trump's bank records are sorted out he'll be lucky to get anything less than life in prison.
Posted by: Bill Wynn at December 05, 2017 01:54 PM (bvz/P)
Heh. Gonna be an early night.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (oPNmq)
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MAGA, the THUNDER THIEF!
Posted by: MAGA at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (LnOh3)
438
Fox is now reporting that Mueller did NOT issue a subpoena to Deutsche Bank. "
Considering the only source for said report is Reuters, I'd question it as well.
Considering the only source for said report is Reuters, I'd question it as well.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (MINbv)
439
Mueller is giving the illusion he's really onto something so he and the dem minions can scream that they were getting close so Trump shut them down.
Trump is hopefully just going to watch them self destruct. No firing or shutting down from Trump necessary.
Trump is hopefully just going to watch them self destruct. No firing or shutting down from Trump necessary.
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (8b+oT)
440
>>Why should Rosenstein care?
>>Mueller comes to him asking for expanded authority, what risk does he have approving? None.
Read the link I just posted at 435. He has his own legal exposure to deal with right now.
>>Mueller comes to him asking for expanded authority, what risk does he have approving? None.
Read the link I just posted at 435. He has his own legal exposure to deal with right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (/tuJf)
441
422
I wonder if Mueller will release the paperwork for the impeachment of
Trump the same day that the OIG releases the indictment
paperwork for Mueller?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:57 PM (7ZVPa)
When do we find out the first draft was written back in February? I'm only halfway joking.
I wonder if Mueller will release the paperwork for the impeachment of
Trump the same day that the OIG releases the indictment
paperwork for Mueller?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 05, 2017 01:57 PM (7ZVPa)
When do we find out the first draft was written back in February? I'm only halfway joking.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (UBzPO)
442
A lot of stuff is coming to a head and a lot of the same players keep showing up. Unexpectedly
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"unexpectedly"
*golf clap*
now work in "unprecedented" and "punching above his weight" for the trifecta . . .
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"unexpectedly"
*golf clap*
now work in "unprecedented" and "punching above his weight" for the trifecta . . .
Posted by: simplemind at December 05, 2017 02:01 PM (VjNg0)
443
Was the zombie female, and hawt?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (oPNmq)
Heh. Ya know, the article didn't say. Maybe a viewer knows. I think the actor is married IRL. But wrestling naked with a zombie takes the idea of beer goggles to a whole 'nother level.
And if it was a male zombie, maybe he was trying out the Bro-mance spooning position on the down low.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 05, 2017 01:58 PM (oPNmq)
Heh. Ya know, the article didn't say. Maybe a viewer knows. I think the actor is married IRL. But wrestling naked with a zombie takes the idea of beer goggles to a whole 'nother level.
And if it was a male zombie, maybe he was trying out the Bro-mance spooning position on the down low.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or Professor Chaos at December 05, 2017 02:02 PM (WEFox)
444
Nood Strzok.
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Next up, nude Strzok pics. The guy's got pervy eyes and was banging a friend's wife or something. Give it a week or two.
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Next up, nude Strzok pics. The guy's got pervy eyes and was banging a friend's wife or something. Give it a week or two.
Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2017 02:03 PM (8b+oT)
445
Sometimes I think they are just keeping this thing going because by this point, they are just trying to figure out how to let all the people who dream about Trump's impending impeachment down easy. They created such expectation that anything less than Trump's orange head on a pike is going to be a huge let down....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (7uYFy)
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And/or, Mueller's Team is having fun living large in DC at taxpayer expense, plus, every day they continue the charade increases the legal costs to PDT, Kushner, Don Jr, and dozens of other people hated by the Democrats. Win-Win!
Posted by: JoeF. at December 05, 2017 01:56 PM (7uYFy)
===
And/or, Mueller's Team is having fun living large in DC at taxpayer expense, plus, every day they continue the charade increases the legal costs to PDT, Kushner, Don Jr, and dozens of other people hated by the Democrats. Win-Win!
Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2017 02:03 PM (AMIL/)
446
Sometimes I think they are just keeping this thing going because by this point, they are just trying to figure out how to let all the people who dream about Trump's impending impeachment down easy. They created such expectation that anything less than Trump's orange head on a pike is going to be a huge let down....
Posted by: JoeF.
I hope it facilitates mass Jim Jones events.
Posted by: JoeF.
I hope it facilitates mass Jim Jones events.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2017 02:03 PM (vVRlw)
447
Per Drudge link, Bloomberg also had reported the Deutsche Bank subpoena..... wonder if they'll get the Brian Ross treatment?
Posted by: blackstone at December 05, 2017 02:04 PM (MztjN)
448
426 Huh. Fox is now reporting that Mueller did NOT issue a subpoena to Deutsche Bank.
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Trial Balloon or Advertised Threat or another Brian Ross brainfart? Hard to follow our betters in Manhattan Media and Government.
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Trial Balloon or Advertised Threat or another Brian Ross brainfart? Hard to follow our betters in Manhattan Media and Government.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 02:04 PM (YV+SU)
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OIG investigation announced prior to Trump's inauguration. Wonder if it was not so much to look at the Hillary email mess for actual issues, as to have a report to reference that stated "mistakes were made, but going forward we'll do better" and close the door? If you read the IG's statement, it notes clearly that there will be no second-guessing of decisions.
Posted by: Ever at December 05, 2017 02:05 PM (wQ1Qo)
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409 Sessions has a OIG investigating DOJ and FBI for the past 11 months. This is how they discovered Strzok. Mueller and company have allowed the new admin to learn who all the connected sleazebags are. Pass the Tax Bill, elect Moore and then begin the Pit of Misery by letting the OIG Report indict Mueller and company. I imagine these will make wonderful Congressional hearings. They certainly will be televised. Treason against the people is ugly business.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (YV+SU)
I wish.
Say, how come they got Mueller instantaneously, but we still haven't gotten a Special Consul for Hillary, or any of this latest nonsense? And some have been screaming for it.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 01:55 PM (YV+SU)
I wish.
Say, how come they got Mueller instantaneously, but we still haven't gotten a Special Consul for Hillary, or any of this latest nonsense? And some have been screaming for it.
Posted by: Iblis at December 05, 2017 02:06 PM (9221z)
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Say, how come they got Mueller instantaneously, but we still haven't gotten a Special Consul for Hillary, or any of this latest nonsense? And some have been screaming for it.
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Two course of action are possible.
A. Begin talking about Britain and the Dems colluding with Hillary to tamper with our electoral process.
B. Begin talking about a YouTubeVideo that caused the Dems to actively subvert Constitutional government to install Hillary so as to protect all the rotten, sleazy hacks within the swamp of DC.
The people will buy either allegation.
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Two course of action are possible.
A. Begin talking about Britain and the Dems colluding with Hillary to tamper with our electoral process.
B. Begin talking about a YouTubeVideo that caused the Dems to actively subvert Constitutional government to install Hillary so as to protect all the rotten, sleazy hacks within the swamp of DC.
The people will buy either allegation.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 05, 2017 02:10 PM (YV+SU)
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"...it seems likely that leaders in Congress are becoming increasingly frustrated with what they see as the FBI and DOJ jerking lawmakers around. At some point, they will act."
No, they won't. They'll sit there and take it. Again and again and again. Oh, a few speeches might be made, some tables will get rightly bruised, but not a thing will happen to tangibly punish the agencies and its most offensive violators.
Now, if some were fired, wages lowered, and staff reduced due to budgetary restrictions, then - and only then - would the point get made. A contempt charge, however official, is an admission that nothing of substance is coming.
No, they won't. They'll sit there and take it. Again and again and again. Oh, a few speeches might be made, some tables will get rightly bruised, but not a thing will happen to tangibly punish the agencies and its most offensive violators.
Now, if some were fired, wages lowered, and staff reduced due to budgetary restrictions, then - and only then - would the point get made. A contempt charge, however official, is an admission that nothing of substance is coming.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 05, 2017 02:11 PM (H8S+R)
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