The Science Is Settled: Scientists Discover "Wetlands" Are a Major Producer of a *Real* Greenhouse Gas, Methane; "Models" Have Failed to Account for Large Amounts of Methane Being Produced by Wetlands

The Science Is Settled: Scientists Discover "Wetlands" Are a Major Producer of a Real Greenhouse Gas, Methane; "Models" Have Failed to Account for Large Amounts of Methane Being Produced by Wetlands

In other words, a major real greenhouse gas, methane, has been undermodeled in these #FakeNews models, so that increases in temperature have been attributed to carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas so weak it's an open question if it should be classified as a greenhouse gas at all.

But you're a Science Denier for reading this actual science.

COLUMBUS, Ohio–A study of a Lake Erie wetland suggests that scientists have vastly underestimated the number of places methane-producing microbes can survive -- and, as a result, today's global climate models may be misjudging the amount of methane being released into the atmosphere.
In the journal Nature Communications, researchers at The Ohio State University and their colleagues describe the discovery of the first known methane-producing microbe that is active in an oxygen-rich environment.
Oxygen is supposed to be toxic to such microbes, called methanogens, but the newly named Candidatus Methanothrix paradoxum thrives in it.
In fact, 80 percent of the methane in the wetland under study came from oxygenated soils. The microbe's habitat extends from the deepest parts of a wetland, which are devoid of oxygen, all the way to surface soils.

I think that means the methane being produced by wetlands is 500% what it had been estimated as. They assumed it could only be produced in the 20% of wetland soil that was oxygen-poor, but it turns out it can be produced from oxygenated soils too (that is, all soil, not just the 20% they previously assumed).

"We've always assumed that oxygen was toxic to all methanogens," said Kelly Wrighton, project leader and professor of microbiology at Ohio State. "That assumption is so far entrenched in our thinking that global climate models simply don't allow for methane production in the presence of oxygen. Our work shows that this way of thinking is outdated, and we may be grossly under-accounting for methane in our existing climate models."
More work needs to be done before researchers can determine exactly how much more methane is out there, but the microbe's habitat appears to be global.
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Researchers have long known that wetlands are Earth's largest natural source of methane. They've placed estimates on the amount of methane produced globally based on the notion that only the oxygen-free portion of any wetland could harbor methanogens.
In just the last decade, ocean researchers have seen evidence of methane being produced in oxygenated water, and dubbed the phenomenon the "methane paradox," but no microorganism has been found to be responsible.
...
When doctoral student Jordan Angle analyzed the samples, he found something strange: Soils that were rich in oxygen contained more methane than soils that lacked oxygen.
"I didn't believe it, and thought he'd gotten the samples mixed up," Wrighton said.

The new methane-generating microbe will be given the common name "Al Franken's Busyhands," because it smells like ass.

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1 firsty

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 20, 2017 01:41 PM (FZYNt)

2 No shit.

In other News : A consensus of Scientists have never set foot in a Wetlands.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2017 01:42 PM (cWL5l)

3 That explains that bog smell.

Posted by: johnd01 at November 20, 2017 01:42 PM (ukNFU)

4 yeabut methane oxidizes.

Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2017 01:42 PM (FhXTo)

5 What? I blew it!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Sexual harassment will not be reported. It will however be graded.' at November 20, 2017 01:43 PM (VezBU)

6 I'd get the corgis, but work filters shut down the prior thread.

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2017 01:43 PM (7HtZB)

7 >>"We've always assumed..."

And that's where you fucked up Mr Scientist.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2017 01:43 PM (cWL5l)

8 my wetlands produce toxic gas too

Posted by: Lena Dunham at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (FZYNt)

9 What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: The Happy Cows of California at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (ctuyM)

10 ...also, alligator farts.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (cWL5l)

11 So fuck Gaia then amirite?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Sexual harassment will not be reported. It will however be graded.' at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (VezBU)

12 They're never going to concede anything until they get their global carbon tax that allows unelected bureaucrats to regulate every single transaction.

Posted by: Grande at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (uc45P)

13 The science is settled. Why are they even researching this?

Posted by: sunny-dee at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (QAOZh)

14 I'm so old, I remember when they were called "swamps".

Posted by: tu3031 at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (O5Q3r)

15 This is a stunning revelation given that the oceans both produce and release methane in enormous amounts. This has only been known for about 100 years.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (/tuJf)

16 The ocean farts.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (ul9CR)

17 I feel like I need a sarc tag for #13, and I hate that this is where society is now.

Posted by: sunny-dee at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (QAOZh)

18 It's almost as if climate is an extremely complex multivariate phenomenon that current science cannot successfully model in any but the crudest way.

Or maybe I'm a denier.

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

19 So I can fart again? Not that I ever stopped

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (5y11N)

20 "We've always assumed that oxygen was toxic to all methanogens," said Kelly Wrighton, project leader and professor of microbiology at Ohio State. "That assumption is so far entrenched in our thinking that global climate models simply don't allow for methane production in the presence of oxygen.

They blinded themselves with their phony science. Science! Science!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (493sH)

21
Wetlands = Hillary's Depends.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (mbhDw)

22 11 So fuck Gaia then amirite?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Sexual harassment will not be reported. It will however be graded.' at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (VezBU)

Right in the wetlands

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (7HtZB)

23 cogito ergo grope

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (AURKQ)

24 15 This is a stunning revelation given that the oceans both produce and release methane in enormous amounts. This has only been known for about 100 years.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (/tuJf)

+++

It is to laugh.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (tcwn1)

25 And the EPA has been encouraging the creation of wetlands for decades meaning they are the biggest climate criminals on the planet!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (BoMuO)

26 We have to burn the wetlands to save them.

Posted by: Jb at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (1vsiQ)

27 Combine two molecules of methane, substitute a hydroxyl group for one of the hydrogen atoms, and viola ...

Val-U-Rite!

Posted by: Chemistry! at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (ctuyM)

28 11 So fuck Gaia then amirite?

Her holes are full of ants and stones and crap like that. Pass.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (ul9CR)

29 But the cows! in 3...2....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (BoMuO)

30
"Not To Grope the Earth"

- - The Doors

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (mbhDw)

31
So in order to combat Global Warmening the obvious solution is to drain all the wetlands that EPA has been trying to preserve, despite the wishes of the property owners.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (eXA4G)

32 And even more hilariously:

THe Enviromental movement, and the Obama Administration, are and were OBSESSED with "protecting the wetlands."

So THEY are the ones responsible for all the actual greenhouse gases, it turns out.

BAN WETLANDS!!!

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (42M22)

33 26 We have to burn the wetlands to save them.
Posted by: Jb

you mispelt nuke

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (FZYNt)

34 So fuck Gaia then amirite?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Sexual harassment will not be reported. It will however be graded.' at November 20, 2017 01:44 PM (VezBU)

Al Franken: Not yet, but I did grope her a few times

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (493sH)

35 27 Combine two molecules of methane, substitute a hydroxyl group for one of the hydrogen atoms, and viola ...

Val-U-Rite!
Posted by: Chemistry! at November 20, 2017 01:46 PM (ctuyM)

Isn't vodka supposed to be odorless?

Posted by: joncelli, predenounced for your pleasure at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (RD7QR)

36 Soil should now be regarded as a pollutant.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (fq72/)

37
Gee, the distinctive funky odor of methane was obvious proof for 100 years that methane wasn't there.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (ajiE5)

38 The whole thing is bullshit but it has been obvious for years that naturally ocurring emissions are way more than human caused.

Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (LiyEm)

39 How many billions of our tax dollars will now have to be confiscated to exterminate this microorganism?

Because you know that's exactly their solution.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (vg8iE)

40 So I guess it's okay to pave them all over now? For Mother Gaia, of course...

Posted by: tu3031 at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (O5Q3r)

41 There is some lovely filth in the wetlands.

Posted by: Methane the Peasant at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (DValh)

42 Climate : a complex system where the only thing that really changes is our misunderstanding of it.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (cWL5l)

43 OT, but I wanted to note that Rush just did a masterful job of schooling a young millennial concerned about Moore. Didn't shut him down, heard him out, left him with food for thought.

I'm always amazed when I hear Rush really interacting with callers.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (ZapPq)

44 Methane is odorless. It's the sulfur compounds that you smell.

We add those to natural gas, because methane is odorless.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (xfb67)

45
Drain the swamp. Literally.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (mbhDw)

46 15 This is a stunning revelation given that the oceans both produce and release methane in enormous amounts. This has only been known for about 100 years.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM (/tuJf)
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So the oceans fart?

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (7HtZB)

47 What I don't understand is why instead of measuring how much methane is being produced, they don't simply measure how much is in the atmosphere.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (vChNs)

48 That isn't swamp gas. It's alien space craft and the Men in Black are enforcing resident Alien permits.

Just look into the flashy thing.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (4XCge)

49 Build houses on the wetlands! Save the planet!

Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (VpIIl)

50 Science is Hard (tm)

Posted by: Mega at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (RAyOM)

51 Was doctoral student Jordan Angle wearing a lab coat when he said this? If he wasn't, then he's not credible.

Posted by: Bill Nye at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (H8S+R)

52 So I can fart again? Not that I ever stopped
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM

We know.

Posted by: The 0000 to 0400 watchstanders at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (ctuyM)

53
Can I eat a guilt-free hamburger now? Seems we meat-eaters were to blame for global warming because cows fart or something.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (ajiE5)

54 Uh, didn't the UN's IPCC (or whatever its called) release a report a few years ago that attributed their models/predictions being off because they forgot to factor in the impact of the worl's oceans. You know, that stuff that covers 75% of the planet.

I'm not a scientist, and I only like science platonicly, but even I could see how large bodies of water might impact ~~weather~~ climate.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (W+vEI)

55 They were dry lands until the Paulo, he arrived

Posted by: The Paulo at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (vChNs)

56

Bill Nye hardest hit

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (lKyWE)

57 We were told there would be no science.

Posted by: Political "Climatologists" at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (RAyOM)

58 So methane contributes more to climate change than CO2, wetlands produce more methane that thought previously. Despite all of this heretofore unknown methane production there has been no increase in average global temperature in 20 years. So let's shut the fuck up about this now. No, the climatists will say "This is proof that we need to reduce CO2 more than planned and faster! QUICK! TO THE REGULATIONS!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (BoMuO)

59 They've underestimated the amount of methane, yet the models still over-predict the amount of warming.

From which they'll conclude we have to do more to cripple humanity...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (q29T2)

60 Ahhhh ... American wetlands, the natural home for methane-producing microbes and malaria vectors. One would think the chattering class would understand that one of the first things early settlers did was drain the swamps. But, no.

Posted by: mrp at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (Pqytn)

61 "44 Methane is odorless. It's the sulfur compounds that you smell.

We add those to natural gas, because methane is odorless.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe"

Well get a load of the big brain on Brad. (j/k Thanks for sharing.)

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (OD2ni)

62 So?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (60v4h)

63 "36 Soil should now be regarded as a pollutant."

Well, it IS very dirty!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (k1TUh)

64 Somebody said nood swamp things? NSFW.

I hear that there is an uncut Swamp Thing out there with glorious swamp things on it.

http://tinyurl.com/y829cowg

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 20, 2017 01:50 PM (tbOMB)

65 Ever driven through the Jersey Meadowlands?

Maybe these science types need to drive up the Turnpike?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2017 01:50 PM (VpIIl)

66 Warm good. Cold bad. Ugh.

Posted by: Ugh the Caveman at November 20, 2017 01:50 PM (HgMAr)

67 But I thought it was all cow farts?!?!?

They've lied?!? No.......

Posted by: Sponge at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (Pi667)

68 Four new women are accusing Billy Bob Clinton of sexual assault in the early 2000's when they were teenagers.

http://tinyurl.com/ycc9adzt

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (398bZ)

69 Soil bad.

Sand good.

Posted by: Deserts at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (ul9CR)

70 64 Dude,you think morons are unaware of this?

Posted by: steevy at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (LiyEm)

71 What I don't understand is why instead of measuring how much methane is being produced, they don't simply measure how much is in the atmosphere.

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Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (xfb67)

72 Can I eat a guilt-free hamburger now? Seems we meat-eaters were to blame for global warming because cows fart or something.

So now it's mosquito farts?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (O5Q3r)

73 The new methane-generating microbe will be given the common name "~~Al Franken's Busyhands,~~" New Orleans, because it smells like ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (5kNms)

74 Methane is odorless. It's the sulfur compounds that you smell.
We add those to natural gas, because methane is odorless.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM

Same reason we favor submitted recipes with eggs.

Posted by: The Cookbook at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (ctuyM)

75 It was never us. It was the dog.

Posted by: Cows at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (hr+8L)

76 The whole thing is bullshit but it has been obvious for years that naturally ocurring emissions are way more than human caused.

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some of mine are plant caused

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (vChNs)

77
Jesus.

Carbon dioxide is .02% of the atmosphere. Thats .0002. Its "global warming" affect is highly deabteable.

Methane is 0.00017% of our atmosphere. Draw your own conclusions.

Water .... on the other hand is MUCH better at being a greenhouse gas and the carrying capacity of the atmosphere for water is HUUUUUUUGE. Is so huge.... that when the carrying capacity is exceeded..... TRILLIONS of gallons of water falls from the sky and accumulate on the face of the earth in what normal thinking human beings call "rainfall".

But... not even scocialist envrio weenies are ready to call for the regulation of water on a planet that is covered miles deep in water over 70% of its surface.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (8XRCm)

78 42 Climate : a complex system where the only thing that really changes is our misunderstanding of it.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2017 01:47 PM (cWL5l)

I would call that accurate.

I always like the story of an evolution debate in the late 1800's between a pastor and Thomas Huxley. Huxley was going on about how science had proven X and the pastor was replying that X wasn't scientifically possible. If you asked an evolutionist in the 80's which was right, they would have sided with the pastor.

Most scientific fact is usually nonsense.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (J70i0)

79 "Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (xfb67)"
Stop. You're ruining this thread with facts and real science.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (VpIIl)

80 We have to remember that there has been some warming over the last few decades, and it's hard to come up with any other explanation. There would have to be some source that was huge, big enough to affect the entire earth, something that would be impossible to hide - it would just about have to be on the order of our own Sun.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (k1TUh)

81 There was an article on climate change that some twathead troll was making snide comments on, but to reply to his comment I had to register an account, then went back to reply and told him he was the biggest fuckfaced whoreshit to ever grace the interboobz with his utterly vacant airheaded bullshit and to kindly get fucked up the ass with a barbed banana.

Only to see my comment get moderated and my account banned like a minute after I registered. Why? I was just expressing my thoughts.

And that is why I only comment on AOS.

Posted by: Slappypants Fogbottom at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (uXEPm)

82 Still the greatest scam in human history.

Gotta update my millennial global warming guide.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (72PAC)

83 75 It was never us. It was the dog.
Posted by: Cows at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (hr+8L)

Watch it big boy, you can be herded over a cliff.

Posted by: The Dog at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (RD7QR)

84 New Orleans smells like ass because of all the puke and piss in the streets.

Get a load of who we just elected as Mayor too!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (xfb67)

85 And yet the EPA fanatically endeavors to protect (control) every puddle!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (0jtPF)

86 So I can fart again? Not that I ever stopped
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2017 01:45 PM

We know.
Posted by: The 0000 to 0400 watchstanders at November 20, 2017 01:49 PM (ctuyM)

Dutch Oven anyone?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (5y11N)

87 Four new women are accusing Billy Bob Clinton of sexual assault in the early 2000's when they were teenagers.

http://tinyurl.com/ycc9adzt

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (398bZ)

On a plane named "Air Fuck One." What did they THINK was going to happen aboard that thing?

Posted by: Sponge at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (Pi667)

88
But... not even scocialist envrio weenies are ready to call for the regulation of water on a planet that is covered miles deep in water over 70% of its surface.
==========

Baby steps.

Posted by: Maryland Rainwater Taxation Commissars at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (vg8iE)

89 Build houses on the wetlands! Save the planet!

Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2017 01:48 PM (VpIIl)

We built a castle there but it sunk into the swamp. The second one sank into the swamp too. The third one burned, fell over then sank into the swamp

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (493sH)

90 Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere

But it sure lingers in the elevator when you just had five fire sauces with your lunchtime taco.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (ul9CR)

91
Damn bullfrogs are destroying the climate

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (lKyWE)

92 >>One would think the chattering class would understand that one of the
first things early settlers did was drain the swamps. But, no.

*AHEM*

You touch that swamp and we will fine you so hard and so fast you'll wonder what size truck hit you. Fr the planet, of couse!!

Posted by: Obama's EPA at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (W+vEI)

93 Emmie: "Didn't shut him down, heard him out, left him with food for thought."

IOW persuasion. The best method is to let people arrive at the same conclusion but on their own. Suggest a conclusion, let their minds meet it. Then it will have staying power. You can't force others to have your opinion (excepting, of course, for tribalism).

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (H8S+R)

94 Well, this isn't exactly science but it is math.

Mike S. Adams @MikeSAdams
Charles Manson died today some 45 years after the Supreme Court spared his life. He was preceded in death by 59 million innocent unborn humans who failed to win the sympathy of our nation's highest court.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 01:54 PM (Nwg0u)

95 Seems we meat-eaters were to blame for global warming because cows fart or something.

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Well..... seems we dodged a bullet by us slaughtering a billion bison on the North American continent 150 years ago now didnt we.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 01:54 PM (8XRCm)

96 "Dutch Oven anyone?

Posted by: Nevergiveup"

I give Huma a Dutch Oven every night. Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at November 20, 2017 01:54 PM (OD2ni)

97 87 Four new women are accusing Billy Bob Clinton of sexual assault in the early 2000's when they were teenagers.

http://tinyurl.com/ycc9adzt

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 20, 2017 01:51 PM (398bZ)

On a plane named "Air Fuck One." What did they THINK was going to happen aboard that thing?
Posted by: Sponge at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM (Pi667)

Draw penises in the sky

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2017 01:54 PM (7HtZB)

98 "74 Methane is odorless. It's the sulfur compounds that you smell."

Sez He who Smelt It.

Posted by: He who Dealt It at November 20, 2017 01:54 PM (k1TUh)

99 "Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere.

I think it gets turned into smog. For a five million dollar grant, I'll try to research it.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 01:55 PM (4XCge)

100 Car has emissions, huh? Fuck you, pay me.
Just had another kid? Fuck you, pay me.
Oh so the microbes are releasing 500,000 tons more methane than previously thought? Fuck you, pay me.

Posted by: The Democrats at November 20, 2017 01:55 PM (RAyOM)

101 SAVE THE WETLANDS!!!1!!

Posted by: Mike D at November 20, 2017 01:56 PM (rS5vj)

102 Have any "journalists" thought to ask Laraine Newman and Jane Curtin about Franken?

Franken is said to have been none too popular with the SNL cast and crew. Bet at least one of them would spill the beans if they know of any beans to be spilled.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 01:56 PM (ul9CR)

103 No more methane. This place finished.

Posted by: Master Blaster at November 20, 2017 01:56 PM (OD2ni)

104 Well..... seems we dodged a bullet by us slaughtering a billion bison on
the North American continent 150 years ago now didnt we.

You're welcome!

Posted by: Zombie Buffalo Bill Cody at November 20, 2017 01:56 PM (O5Q3r)

105
I think it gets turned into smog. For a five million dollar grant, I'll try to research it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 01:55 PM (4XCge)

Piker!

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 01:56 PM (lKyWE)

106 We was fighting Global Warming before it was cool. Suck it Carl Hiassen.

Posted by: 1960's Florida Developers at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (PeKpj)

107 "Only to see my comment get moderated and my account banned like a minute after I registered. Why? I was just expressing my thoughts. "

Oh yeah, I have tried to give reasoned, articulate, unemotional reasons for questioning some of the Dogma on enviro-sites, and I'm banned from every one of them. They freak at the slightest hint of Heresy against their Religion.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (k1TUh)

108 Only to see my comment get moderated and my account banned like a minute after I registered. Why? I was just expressing my thoughts.

And that is why I only comment on AOS.

Posted by: Slappypants Fogbottom at November 20, 2017 01:52 PM (uXEPm)

Somebody on the Internet was wrong? I see why you went to all that trouble to register an account only to be banned. We gotta find that guy.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (ajiE5)

109 If I'm lying may God strike me . . . .

http://bit.ly/2AWT1yB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (Nwg0u)

110 seems we dodged a bullet by us slaughtering a billion bison on the North American continent 150 years ago now didnt we.

That would be the logical conclusion, yes. The Bison were kind of obliterating all other potential life in that area as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (39g3+)

111 Still the greatest scam in human history.
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Not quite!!!!

Posted by: Macroevolution at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (RAyOM)

112
Its almost like this big orb hurtling through space can control its environment or something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (r+sAi)

113 Mike S. Adams @MikeSAdams

Charles Manson died today some 45 years after the Supreme Court
spared his life. He was preceded in death by 59 million innocent unborn
humans who failed to win the sympathy of our nation's highest court.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 01:54 PM (Nwg0u)
The souls of the innocents are with our Lord. Manson..well..he is finding out what hell is all about.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 01:57 PM (a0IVu)

114 Orrr... they could do like... Real science... and go measure the Methane output of wetlands..

We do have the technology to do that...

/facepalm...

Science used to be about explaining things we saw and measured in the real world... not changing things like temperature data that does not agree with what we think...

/spit

Posted by: StarLord at November 20, 2017 01:58 PM (NgKpN)

115 All this is completley ludicrous. Because the system self-balances, as it has for over a billion years.

All the studies show massive "global greening" around the world, as the "greenhouse gases" in the atmosphere act as airborne fertilizer -- which is why they're called "greenhouse gases," duh.

All that "global greening" results in plants re-absorbing the carbon out of the atmosphere and putting back into the plant structures.

So in the end, the amount of carbon in the atmosphere goes back to normal.

This is and endless cycle that has been going on since life began.

If there is a lot of carbon in the atmosphere, then there is a lot of plant growth, and the crbon is used up.

If there is a deficiency of carbon in the atmosphere, then there is diminished plant growth, so the carbon is allowed to accumulate more.

Back and forth, in a contant cycle, since the dawn of time.

The entire brouhaha about "greenhouse gases" causing deleterious "global warming" is 100% science-free balderdash.

Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2017 01:58 PM (42M22)

116 The wetlands has released a press statement that "plan to live their lives as a gay man."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2017 01:58 PM (34w2E)

117 Ace has been quiet about Glenn Thrush. I hope that means a classic is coming.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

118 Speaking of junk science, did anyone know that Neil DeGrass smoker Tyson has a late night talk show on National Geographic Channel?

Saw a commercial for it yesterday. The clips revealed it to be a clearinghouse for lunatic leftists to spout nonsense/idiocy, etc.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (vg8iE)

119 My nose smells like ass.

Posted by: Karl Rove at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (r9UYA)

120 Oh, and just coincidentally, Al Gore is a VERY wealthy man and it isn't because of book royalties.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (RD7QR)

121 Eliminate all wetlands

Drain the SWAMP

Posted by: simplemind at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (IZQY8)

122 In my next paper, I'll discuss how methane in the atmosphere causes a multiplicative effect of heat absorption in CO2. So naturally we need to redouble our efforts and grant money to eliminate CO2 in our atmosphere, now that we know there is more methane than we thought.

Posted by: Mr. Climate Sciencer at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (fq72/)

123 74 Methane is odorless. It's the sulfur compounds that you smell.

True story: When my son was in kindergarten, my wife was talking to the teacher one morning. The teacher said that my son told her that his dad's farts smelled like roses.

That's my boy!

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (T71PA)

124 117 Ace has been quiet about Glenn Thrush. I hope that means a classic is coming.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

Five paragraphs, minimum.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (RD7QR)

125 Science evolves, and people can't seem to do the same with
their thinking...or remember this.

It wasn't too long ago that scientists were saying the atom was the tiniest molecule. Then they finally split it open and found a whole bunch of other tinier molecules.

There is a lot they have wrong, then they'll find something that counteracts their previous beliefs, and adjust for it. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't or won't do this.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (4Vu64)

126 All this wet talk has me kinda wet.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (nQHw/)

127 Whatever the cause or effect is of [insert bad thing here], the solution surely is more government and taxpayer dollars thrown at it.

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (lKEuo)

128 If there is a lot of carbon in the atmosphere, then there is a lot of plant growth, and the crbon is used up.

If there is a deficiency of carbon in the atmosphere, then there is diminished plant growth, so the carbon is allowed to accumulate more.

Back and forth, in a constant cycle, since the dawn of time.

And when the heat of the planet changes, the oceans change how they behave. In times of great heat, they absorb carbon. In times of cool they release it.

Almost as if the planet was designed to keep its self in more or less stable equilibrium.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (39g3+)

129
In just the last decade, ocean researchers have seen evidence of methane being produced in oxygenated water, and dubbed the phenomenon the "methane paradox," but no microorganism has been found to be responsible.

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Oh for fucks sake.

There are planets and moons right here in our solar system covered by lakes and glaciers of frozen methane.

How the fuck did THAT happen without any "responsible organisms".

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (8XRCm)

130 Methane is odorless. It's the sulfur compounds that you smell.

We add those to natural gas, because methane is odorless.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Ethyl mercaptan is added to butane, propane, and natural gas.
Ter-butythiolis usually added to methane.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (5kNms)

131 The wetlands has released a press statement that "plan to live their lives as a gay man."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 20, 2017 01:58 PM (34w2E)

You don't get to hide behind the rainbow Mr Wetlands.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (ajiE5)

132 127 Whatever the cause or effect is of [insert bad thing here], the solution surely is more government and taxpayer dollars thrown at it.
Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (lKEuo)

Don't forget the slogans, too.

Because you can't hug your whales with nuclear rainforests.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (AURKQ)

133 Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere

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But it sure lingers in the elevator when you just had five fire sauces with your lunchtime taco.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 01:53 PM

Technically, those are mostly methanethiols (mercaptans, in OC-speak, or sometimes thiosulphates).

Posted by: Chemistry! at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (ctuyM)

134 Can't they just measure the methane in the atmosphere directly? Why does it matter where and how it's being produced?

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (eAZVt)

135 Michael E. Mann has a history of viciously attacking anyone who disagree with his models, such as Judith Curry. Has he started attacking these people too, or is he hoping for the MSM to bury it?

It's odd that it took them so long to discover it. Almost as if they were so sure of the results that it never occurred to them to bother.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (/qEW2)

136 What we really need is a haughty British woman to horsewhip these guys.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (39g3+)

137 How the fuck did THAT happen without any "responsible organisms".

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:00 PM (8XRCm)

I'm not saying it's aliens, but...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2017 02:02 PM (AURKQ)

138 "It wasn't too long ago that scientists were saying the atom was the tiniest molecule. Then they finally split it open and found a whole bunch of other tinier molecules.
There is a lot they have wrong, then they'll find something that counteracts their previous beliefs, and adjust for it."

Funny that reminds me how not too long ago (a couple of weeks?) leftists were saying that Al Franken should run for President. heh.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2017 02:02 PM (k1TUh)

139 Now, it's not so much "settled Science" as "colonized Science".

Any idea of methane level in "settled science"?

Posted by: Axeman at November 20, 2017 02:02 PM (vDqXW)

140 "We've always assumed that oxygen was toxic to all methanogens," said Kelly Wrighton, project leader and professor of microbiology at Ohio State.

You know what they say about assuming.

Posted by: rickl at November 20, 2017 02:02 PM (xjiRE)

141 >>136 What we really need is a haughty British woman to horsewhip these guys. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (39g3+)

I was just thinking that...

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2017 02:02 PM (Bdeb0)

142 Soil should now be regarded as a pollutant.
=========
No shit Sherlock.

Posted by: the league of Irish Cleaning Ladies at November 20, 2017 02:02 PM (vOvzS)

143 "We've always assumed that oxygen was toxic to all methanogens"

Now that's some fine and shiny scientific methodology, right there.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 20, 2017 02:03 PM (cu8/f)

144 Michael Mann misrepresented Briffa's Yamal research on proxy climate findings.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at November 20, 2017 02:03 PM (2X7pN)

145 Ter-butythiolis

...not sure if pulling leg

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)

146 The clips revealed it to be a clearinghouse for lunatic leftists to spout nonsense/idiocy, etc.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM

That's our job!

Posted by: Mika and Joe at November 20, 2017 02:03 PM (ctuyM)

147 121 Eliminate all wetlands

Drain the SWAMP
Posted by: simplemind at November 20, 2017 01:59 PM (IZQY

I wonder how the state of California will react to this. If you have a dry creek bed on your property the state and county won't let you farm, build a berm during winter. They are protecting the wetlands. Many a lawsuit has been fough against the government. I'm sure the defense attorneys would love this study.

What will the environmentalists do now?

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 20, 2017 02:04 PM (Ri/rl)

148 Draw penises in the sky

-
http://bit.ly/2jb5Iid

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:04 PM (Nwg0u)

149 There is a theory, based on data that started in 1980 Sweden in a deep drill shaft, that the crust is home to a large number of single-celled organisms giving off methane.

so the Earth itself is host to a large amount of methane emitters. This is all well below where we normally drill. So methane is bio-methane, and renewable. Yah Science.

We need kbdbear to spell it out for us.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 20, 2017 02:04 PM (hyuyC)

150 Ter-butythiolis

...not sure if pulling leg

It's tert-butythiolis. I typoed the 2nd t.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:04 PM (5kNms)

151 145 Ter-butythiolis

...not sure if pulling leg
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)

He said "Ter-butythiolis." Heh heh. Heh heh heh.

Posted by: Beavis (or is it Butthead?) at November 20, 2017 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

152 "Michael E. Mann has a history of viciously attacking anyone who disagree with his models, such as Judith Curry. Has he started attacking these people too, or is he hoping for the MSM to bury it? "

Rich Lowry gets crap (some deserved) for being a bit of a moderate squish, but he refused to back down to Michael Mann which I respected.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (OD2ni)

153 I think there are more fundamental problems.

Earth's atmosphere/troposphere is not a "greenhouse" - or it remains to be demonstrated that, with all the systems of systems taken into account, it *acts* as a greenhouse.

Given that, the concept of "forcing" caused by "greenhouse" gases remains entirely uproven, and quite dubious. If you don't have a complete understanding of how an entire system of systems acts, and comes to equilibrium, or changes it equilibrium, how do you draw conclusions about the relative contribution of different supposed factors?

Also - not trivial - there is no evidence that the earth's climate (itself an over-simplified concept) has indeed warmed since human measurement became possible, or that it was warmed more than was observed/documented (though not precisely measured) in earlier human times. Sorry - the data "adjustment" when corrected does not leave any clear picture.

And in a system of systems that is more than a billion years old, the proxy data absolutely does not point to the eye-blink of history for which there are any measurements being unusual - that is, not entirely "natural" and explicable without any human contributions.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (QDnY+)

154 Ethyl mercaptan is added to butane, propane, and natural gas.

-------

Which reminds me.

NEVER refill a butane lighter over a stove with a pilot light.

Ask me how I know this.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (8XRCm)

155 ManBearPig will get right on this!

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (y7DUB)

156
Ter-butythiolis sounds like some elaborate foreplay.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 02:06 PM (ajiE5)

157 Don't forget the slogans, too.

Because you can't hug your whales with nuclear rainforests.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (AURKQ)

And T-SHIRTS!

Posted by: The T Shirt Factory at November 20, 2017 02:06 PM (VezBU)

158 Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM

We do not find your argument compelling.

Posted by: Al Gore and his rhythm section at November 20, 2017 02:07 PM (ctuyM)

159 Which reminds me.

NEVER refill a butane lighter over a stove with a pilot light.

Ask me how I know this.

Posted by: fixerupper

Loud "FOOM", flash of light & smell of burnt eyebrows?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:07 PM (5kNms)

160 136 What we really need is a haughty British woman to horsewhip these guys. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (39g3+)

Indubitably.

Posted by: Zombie J.P Donleavy DA 1977 at November 20, 2017 02:07 PM (kfcYC)

161 #27 Chemistry , you have shown the way. the golden years are besotted without apology.

Posted by: cowtown at November 20, 2017 02:07 PM (WX+x0)

162 So the earth farts. Who knew? It also projectile vomits. Be careful out there.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (YV+SU)

163 Ask me how I know this.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (8XRCm)

Do you now paint in your eyebrows?

Posted by: The T Shirt Factory at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (VezBU)

164
Michael E. Mann has a history of viciously attacking anyone who disagree with his models, such as Judith Curry. Has he started attacking these people too, or is he hoping for the MSM to bury it? "

Isn't he the guy suing Mark Steyn?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (lKyWE)

165 All the wetlands must be filled in with concrete!

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (eAZVt)

166 There is a theory, based on data that started in 1980 Sweden in a deep drill shaft, that the crust is home to a large number of single-celled organisms giving off methane

There's a theory about organisms deep in the earth that create petroleum as well. Which would account for why we keep finding gargantuan seas of the stuff when it should be used up by our rapid consumption. Its renewable, if so. Not sure how fast, but renewable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

167 Wait, so no one bothered to, I don't know, stick sensors in some wetlands to see how much methane was being generated? C'mon, that can't be right. I mean, I only play a scientist on the internet and not even then and even I know to do that.

*clambers on soapbox*

CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT ACTUAL CONSERVATION AND POLLUTION AND THINGS INSTEAD OF TURNING IT ALL INTO A RELIGION AND I CAN TOO USE THE CAPS MINE MINE MINE

*surveys kingdom*

Hmmm. Looks like some people need a raptoring.

You know what you did.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (mf5HN)

168
And in a system of systems that is more than a billion years old,
the proxy data absolutely does not point to the eye-blink of history for
which there are any measurements being unusual - that is, not entirely
"natural" and explicable without any human contributions.
=====

I always think of them as inquisitors who can't believe that they, and all mankind, are not the center of the universe.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (MIKMs)

169 Don't forget the slogans, too.

Because you can't hug your whales with nuclear rainforests.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2017 02:01 PM (AURKQ)

Hmmmm... really???

check our catalog...

Posted by: ACME Sales Dept. at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (NgKpN)

170 Off t shirts.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2017 02:09 PM (VezBU)

171 CH3
\
CH3-C- SH
/
CH3

One of several possible Ter-butythiol

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 20, 2017 02:09 PM (hyuyC)

172 170 Off t shirts.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

whatever you say, big boy

Posted by: Lena Dunham at November 20, 2017 02:09 PM (FZYNt)

173 Earth's atmosphere/troposphere is not a "greenhouse" - or it remains to be demonstrated that, with all the systems of systems taken into account, it *acts* as a greenhouse.

Yes, this has bothered me too. It's obviously an open system and to pretend otherwise is just nutty.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2017 02:09 PM (y7DUB)

174 All the wetlands must be filled in with concrete!

and all that stored water will raise ocean levels twenty feet and NYC will be under water.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 02:09 PM (4XCge)

175 "What we really need is a haughty British woman to horsewhip these guys."

Maybe give her a cricket bat instead of that wimpy riding crop.

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (eAZVt)

176 I'm a walking methane factory for a couple of days after eating Thanksgiving dinner. I believe it's the turnips. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (r9UYA)

177 There's a theory about organisms deep in the earth that create petroleum as well. Which would account for why we keep finding gargantuan seas of the stuff when it should be used up by our rapid consumption. Its renewable, if so. Not sure how fast, but renewable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

I really really really really really want petroleum to turn out to be a renewable resource just because all the right people would weep bitter tears of bitterness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (mf5HN)

178 Sigh.

Connect the top C in the methyl group to the center carbon.

I'm sure ChemDraw would violate Pixy something fierce.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (hyuyC)

179 It is all the damn robots, they all vent methane. Get the head of Nixon and the headless body of Agnew on this stat!

Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (gbWkA)

180 Earth's atmosphere/troposphere is not a "greenhouse" - or it remains to be demonstrated that, with all the systems of systems taken into account, it *acts* as a greenhouse.

Correct, the theory seems fundamentally sound involving greenhouse gasses, but the problem is the atmosphere is monstrously more complex, and has various forces in play on it that a lab study lacks such as solar influences, oceans, etc.

Basically what works in "science land" of your sterile lab where you strip out all outside influences doesn't necessarily in the real world.

Yes, in a vacuum, a feather falls as fast as a cannonball. But not out in the world.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (39g3+)

181 148.
Ghost peckers in the sky....
Yippee kai-yo, yippee kai-yay!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (fA1SL)

182 166 There is a theory, based on data that started in 1980 Sweden in a deep drill shaft, that the crust is home to a large number of single-celled organisms giving off methane

There's a theory about organisms deep in the earth that create petroleum as well. Which would account for why we keep finding gargantuan seas of the stuff when it should be used up by our rapid consumption. Its renewable, if so. Not sure how fast, but renewable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

Yup... peak oil was a myth...

and we are still trying to reach peak stupidity...

Posted by: Don Q. at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (NgKpN)

183 Methane is a nice name though.
Good name for a football player.
Methane Jones. Sounds cool.
Or you could spiff it up to DeMethane Jones.
I like it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (0jtPF)

184 *surveys kingdom*

-----

*psssst*

You're gonna need the Royal Step-ladder for that.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

185 I'll wait till I hear from Bill Nye.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (VezBU)

186
All of these discoveries and discussions always have an assumption in the background that the earth is warming, but there is no proof of such and in fact more proof right now of cooling.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (r+sAi)

187 Reminds me. I got gas Saturday for a $1.39.

Unfortunately, it was at Taco Bell.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (5kNms)

188 Ohio State University? Is that what it said...Sonobi is covering.

Those damn flyover states!! There they go again, messing up the settled science. I see at least one was a doctoral student.

I can't help but wonder if there were many other scientists that were aware, but chose to ignore it b/c it would have screwed up their grant, or job, or accolades for being a Climate Change crusader.

And, I'll be interested if this changes things. For true scientists, it would. Let's find out how many are pretenders. ManBearPig probably has something to say too...even though he is no scientist.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (4Vu64)

189 Don't light a match in the swamp.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (BoMuO)

190 Which reminds me.

NEVER refill a butane lighter over a stove with a pilot light.

Ask me how I know this.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (8XRCm)

You're pals with Wily E. Coyote?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (493sH)

191 174. So, a two-fer, then. Gondolas and all that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (fA1SL)

192 "There are planets and moons right here in our solar system covered by lakes and glaciers of frozen methane.

How the fuck did THAT happen without any "responsible organisms". "

All stars contain shit-tons of hydrogen. Some of them, late in their life, start in on reactions that produce carbon. When that happens, they kick over into producing enough energy to overcome the gravitational force of all that hydrogen.

They go boom, in other words.

In the process, as things cool, some of the carbon gets bonded with a tiny percentage of the hydrogen, and you get methane.

Or, the Elder Gods like bean burritos.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (q29T2)

193 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM

Most of us are aware of your thoughts toward spiders, but what do you think of deathstalker scorpions?

Posted by: @JRandomMoron at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (ctuyM)

194 Ahh, the seventies

http://tinyurl.com/ybotk5th

probably questionable for work viewing. Hotpants may be involved.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)

195 "Models" Have Failed to Account for Large Amounts of Methane Being Produced by Wetlands

Don't get so hung up on details. That's a sure sign of a small mind.

Don't worry, though. It's not your fault. Global Warming causes small minds.

Posted by: Global Warming Scientologist at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (8gDQu)

196 There's a theory about organisms deep in the earth that create petroleum as well. Which would account for why we keep finding gargantuan seas of the stuff when it should be used up by our rapid consumption. Its renewable, if so. Not sure how fast, but renewable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

Yup... peak oil was a myth...

and we are still trying to reach peak stupidity...
Posted by: Don Q.

Empty wells are refilling.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (5kNms)

197 >>There's a theory about organisms deep in the earth that create petroleum as well.

Water dissolving, and water removing/There is water at the bottom of the ocean/under the water, carry the water/Remove the water at the bottom of the ocean...

Posted by: Talking Zods at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (Bdeb0)

198 "NEVER refill a butane lighter over a stove with a pilot light.

Ask me how I know this."

When Hillary asks you to pull her finger, run like hell.

Posted by: Huma at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (OD2ni)

199 189
Don't light a match in the swamp.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (BoMuO)

Or near my beautiful wetlands.

Posted by: Hope Solo at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (tbOMB)

200 NEVER refill a butane lighter over a stove with a pilot light.

Singed yer eyebrows, eh?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (4XCge)

201 Methane Jones. Sounds cool.

Emphasis on the second syllable. meTHANE Jones.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (ul9CR)

202 And why are we asking models about climate and wetlands and stuff? They're usually way more into fashion and fitness and makeup.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (q29T2)

203 Correct, the theory seems fundamentally sound involving greenhouse gasses,.

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No it isnt. It's a "theory" that should have been dismissed out of hand due to implausibility.

CO2 makes up .02% of our atmosphere. Mankinds contribution of THAT is 4%.

There isnt enough CO2 in our atmosphere to warm mosquito farts to start with. And mankind isnt altering shit.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (8XRCm)

204 200 NEVER refill a butane lighter over a stove with a pilot light.

Singed yer eyebrows, eh?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse

so much for the unibrow.

and nose hairs

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (FZYNt)

205 153
I think there are more fundamental problems.

Yup.

===
there is no evidence that the earth's climate (itself an over-simplified
concept) has indeed warmed since human measurement became possible
===

Nope.

There is definitely "observed" warming and cooling.

However, that's about all one can say. The measurements are not precise nor repeatable and the idea that the earth has a "temperature" is complete garbage. The "models" are fantasy.

Posted by: Off the reservation at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (vWMNq)

206 *psssst*

You're gonna need the Royal Step-ladder for that.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

I'm already on the soapbox though.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

207 Water dissolving, and water removing/There is water at the bottom of the ocean/under the water, carry the water/Remove the water at the bottom of the ocean...

Knit one, perl two...

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (5kNms)

208 On the other hand, gas stoves are useful when your lighter dies and you're out of matches.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (ul9CR)

209 AGW was always bullshit.

They could never explain why a gas that was essentially a rounding error atomspherically speaking was the predominant driver of warming.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (EKbh2)

210 I didn't see this coming:

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz Al Sheikh, has issued a surprising fatwa, saying that fighting against Israel is inappropriate and that killing Jews is forbidden.

http://tinyurl.com/ybqt7lqf

Holy Shiite!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (398bZ)

211 197. Hail Zod! We're having church in here today, brothers and sisters!

https://youtu.be/Y8xdsZhfrcA

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (fA1SL)

212
Some old oil wells thought to be pumped out are refilling. So something happens in the continuation of creation of oil.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (r+sAi)

213 I really really really really really want petroleum to turn out to be a renewable resource just because all the right people would weep bitter tears of bitterness.
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As a practical matter fossil fuels (coal, oil, gas) would have had to have been created before the advent of the earth worm. There is no other way that amount of vegetation debris could have been accumulated to become compressed by the earth to become fossil fuels.

Of note, early colonists to North America had to import earthworms.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (YV+SU)

214 201
Emphasis on the second syllable. meTHANE Jones.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (ul9CR)
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Damn. You're right.
Now that really is cool!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (0jtPF)

215 I want to know how those microbes got into my beans.

*whew*

Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (2Mnv1)

216 Yes, in a vacuum, a feather falls as fast as a cannonball. But not out in the world.

There's that old question of "what falls faster from the top of a building, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?" People say bricks and then are told both weigh a pound, so it's the same.

But it isn't. Feathers would float on air currents. They would not fall as fast. Nor hit the ground at the same time. Just sayin...

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (4Vu64)

217 212
Some old oil wells thought to be pumped out are refilling. So something happens in the continuation of creation of oil.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

more dinosaurs keep dying?

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (FZYNt)

218 I've always felt that "The Grand Mufti" is a silly and somewhat gay title.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (ul9CR)

219 212
Some old oil wells thought to be pumped out are refilling. So something happens in the continuation of creation of oil.
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That could simply be leaching.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (YV+SU)

220

Well,, to be honest, I don't know much about methane but, I'm very familiar with ethanol...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (0mskG)

221 and the idea that the earth has a "temperature" is complete garbage. The "models" are fantasy.
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EX-CUSE ME

THE PLANET HAS A FEVER!

Posted by: You're tensing my chockras at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (qQWbE)

222 Of note, early colonists to North America had to import earthworms.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (YV+SU)

That's because Congress hadn't existed yet.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (8gDQu)

223 Singed yer eyebrows, eh?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (4XCge)

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Fortunately... my eyebrows remained intact because of "hat" I think.

I did have hairless baby smooth arms and hands below my shitsleeves for quite some time tho....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (8XRCm)

224 Most of us are aware of your thoughts toward spiders, but what do you think of deathstalker scorpions?
Posted by: @JRandomMoron at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (ctuyM)

Depends, are they eating the spiders?

Also am I unleashing them on my enemies?

Asking for me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (mf5HN)

225 I've always felt that "The Grand Mufti" is a silly and somewhat gay title.
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Yes. Such a silly title.

Posted by: The Grand Poobah at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (qQWbE)

226 "Knit one, perl two..."

Isn't it

Knit one, perl $2

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (q29T2)

227 No doubt we have nothing but The Best And The Brightest(tm) working on this at all levels of government and academia.

Top. Men.

#ScienceIsFuckingHard

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (NYS7S)

228 222 Of note, early colonists to North America had to import earthworms.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (YV+SU)

That's because Congress hadn't existed yet.
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Yes this is true. Is there nothing Europeans can't do?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM (YV+SU)

229 0 I didn't see this coming:

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz Al Sheikh, has issued a surprising fatwa, saying that fighting against Israel is inappropriate and that killing Jews is forbidden.

http://tinyurl.com/ybqt7lqf

Holy Shiite!

It is stunning. I expect pigs to start flying by my window anytime now.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:18 PM (4Vu64)

230 These climate denying microbes are really asking for it.

Posted by: Michael Mann at November 20, 2017 02:18 PM (4e+hS)

231 Isn't he the guy suing Mark Steyn?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 02:08 PM (lKyWE)

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Yep, Mann is the man. I didn't mention Steyn since he's not a scientist. That's more of a SLAPP/free speech/judicial swamp issue.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 20, 2017 02:18 PM (/qEW2)

232 Can't they just measure how much methane is in the atmosphere? And the answer is, of course, no.. because you have to develop a model that supports your preconceived SJW "facts".

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2017 02:18 PM (so+oy)

233 Emphasis on the second syllable. meTHANE Jones.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:14 PM (ul9CR)
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Damn. You're right.
Now that really is cool!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille

"DeMarquontron MeThane shoots from half court at the buzzer!"

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:18 PM (5kNms)

234 Some old oil wells thought to be pumped out are refilling. So something happens in the continuation of creation of oil.
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Fracking?

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 20, 2017 02:19 PM (MIKMs)

235 The Grand Mufti

preferred pronoun?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at November 20, 2017 02:19 PM (2X7pN)

236 "All the studies show massive "global greening" around the world, as the
"greenhouse gases" in the atmosphere act as airborne fertilizer -- which
is why they're called "greenhouse gases," duh." zombie

well ... the greening is indeed probably due at least partly to man's contributing CO2 to the atmosphere (beyond the normal swings) ... it's a good thing. (I don't know what methane does, or other carbon molecules) But there are other greenhouse gases much more abundant, like water vapor. The 400ppm CO2 has a greater effect as a "fertilizer" than it does as an insignificant greenhouse gas.

And the "greenhouse gas" name is because of the radiation effects of those gases "trapping the heat" (like in a greenhouse), not the airborne fertilizer benefits.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2017 02:19 PM (/aIFg)

237 192 "There are planets and moons right here in our solar system covered by lakes and glaciers of frozen methane.

How the fuck did THAT happen without any "responsible organisms". "

All stars contain shit-tons of hydrogen. Some of them, late in their life, start in on reactions that produce carbon. When that happens, they kick over into producing enough energy to overcome the gravitational force of all that hydrogen.

They go boom, in other words.

In the process, as things cool, some of the carbon gets bonded with a tiny percentage of the hydrogen, and you get methane.

Or, the Elder Gods like bean burritos.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2017 02:12 PM (q29T2)

*PHWEET* Yeah, shouldn't have eaten that Taco Hell before lying down for an eon or so.

Posted by: Cthulhu, going to the head again at November 20, 2017 02:19 PM (RD7QR)

238 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (fA1SL)

Can't understand the words of that song. Sorry; I prefer the hymn "MY Hope is Built on Nothing Less" or something religious by Bach.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2017 02:19 PM (8+Ozj)

239 That could simply be leaching.

Its possible yeah. They never get it ALL out, because it becomes financially unfeasible, like gold mining. There's still gold in those mines quite a bit, but it would cost more to get the gold out than it would produce, with current methods. That's why you can go back to very old mines abandoned in the 19th century and get more today.

So it could be the remainder coming out of the nearby strata and filling the well slowly over time. Its very likely that is what is going on. Of course, some of it could be renewable petroleum being produced as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:19 PM (39g3+)

240 "CO2 makes up .02% of our atmosphere."

I think it recently topped 0.04%. Your point still stands, though. It really is a rounding error.

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:20 PM (eAZVt)

241 The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz Al Sheikh, has issued a surprising fatwa, saying that fighting against Israel is inappropriate and that killing Jews is forbidden.

http://tinyurl.com/ybqt7lqf

Holy Shiite!

It is stunning. I expect pigs to start flying by my window anytime now.

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This is what happens with TRUMP.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:20 PM (IZQY8)

242 Seems like quite a few jobs should become available at NASA after this revelation?

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:20 PM (r9UYA)

243 Singed yer eyebrows, eh?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 20, 2017 02:13 PM (4XCge)

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Fortunately... my eyebrows remained intact because of "hat" I think.

I did have hairless baby smooth arms and hands below my shitsleeves for quite some time tho....
Posted by: fixerupper

I'll bet you shit your sleeves!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:20 PM (5kNms)

244 Actually I think it would be better for the whole Earth to let DC go back to being a real swamp.

Posted by: geoffb at November 20, 2017 02:21 PM (zOpu5)

245 CO2 makes up .02% of our atmosphere. Mankinds contribution of THAT is 4%.

Which is why the warmists always state CO2 in terms of TONS. Sounds waaaayyyy bigger.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:21 PM (BoMuO)

246 Well,, to be honest, I don't know much about methane but, I'm very familiar with ethanol...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (0mskG)
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Intuitively, you do.

Posted by: Hillary's Secret Service Detail at November 20, 2017 02:21 PM (vDqXW)

247 Minnesota is The Land of A Thousand Lakes. Nuke them.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:22 PM (r9UYA)

248 So, Jared's making some progress in the Middle East?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:22 PM (ul9CR)

249 Which is why the warmists always state CO2 in terms of TONS. Sounds waaaayyyy bigger.

Well yeah, saying The concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere went from .0039 to .004% doesn't get you sweet climate change cash.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:22 PM (39g3+)

250 So I should cap my compost pile and become energy independant?
And is my compost pile going to be eligible for Washington States spanking new carbon tax?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 20, 2017 02:22 PM (e1mEI)

251 Posted by: geoffb at November 20, 2017 02:21 PM (zOpu5)

Senators are less preferable than frogs and turtles (The non McConnell variety) are more interesting to watch.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2017 02:23 PM (8+Ozj)

252 238. Heh......maybe something a bit simpler, then:

https://youtu.be/rVoPzA0g3Ac

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:23 PM (fA1SL)

253 That could simply be leaching.

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So Jesse Jackson is finally doing something useful?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:23 PM (Nwg0u)

254 So, Jared's making some progress in the Middle East?
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No.

remember Trump's first trip was to SA, Jerusalem and Rome. A deal was struck.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:23 PM (y6dvW)

255 THE PLANET HAS A FEVER!
Posted by: You're tensing my chockras at November 20, 2017 02:16 PM (qQWbE)

AND THE ONLY CURE FOR THAT FEVER IS.....

Posted by: (oh yeah, that's right...) at November 20, 2017 02:24 PM (AURKQ)

256 I notice they're trotting out Moore's first accuser, the '14-year-old' in her 50s, now that the yearbook has been discredited. They desperately need to reinvigorate the hit job.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2017 02:24 PM (oVJmc)

257 The 400ppm CO2 has a greater effect as a "fertilizer" than it does as an insignificant greenhouse gas.

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Fertilizer

N P & K.

No ... no carbon or oxygen in fertilizer.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:24 PM (8XRCm)

258 "There's that old question of 'what falls faster from the top of a building, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?'"

I thought the old question was just "which weighs more?", not which falls faster.

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:24 PM (eAZVt)

259 A component of the the Deathstalker scorpion's venom, the peptide chlorotoxin, has shown potential for treating human brain tumors.

So, yay Deathstalkers?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2017 02:24 PM (ul9CR)

260 Forget the chainsaw bayonets, I just saw some footage of North Korean soldiers marching with blue dildo bayonets.

Posted by: Jwest at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (/roJx)

261 The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz Al Sheikh, has issued a surprising fatwa, saying that fighting against Israel is inappropriate and that killing Jews is forbidden.

I hope he has a lot of bodyguards; I can't believe this is a popular idea. The cynic is me needs to look into it more. Does he really believe it...or is that just his public statement.

There are an awful lot of crazy things happening in Saudi Arabia right now. Seems it is b/c of the new Prince or King or whatever. He better have a lot of bodyguards too. And a food taster.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (4Vu64)

262 When our betters find the other 95% of the universe, MAYBE I'll let them hassle me about what the earth's temp will be in 75 years.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (B+qrE)

263 Depends, are they eating the spiders?

AFAIK, spiders are not what Depends are designed to 'eat'.

Also am I unleashing them on my enemies?

They could occupy a useful spot on your force-continuum, given the 'raptors and laser-wielding manatees you already have.

Asking for me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:17 PM

Posted by: @JRandomMoron at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (ctuyM)

264 So, when a landfill burns off their methane is it good, or bad?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (BoMuO)

265 It is stunning. I expect pigs to start flying by my window anytime now.

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Pigs are still haram.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

266 So, wait. Now are we going to have to burn all the wetlands down? For Science?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (ycWCI)

267 So, Jared's making some progress in the Middle East?

You bet, nobody cares how may boys I diddle here!

Posted by: Subway guy at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (39g3+)

268 >>211 197. Hail Zod! We're having church in here today, brothers and sisters! https://youtu.be/Y8xdsZhfrcA Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:15 PM (fA1SL)

All T-Heads is good T-Heads.

(p.s. I hope you saw the video of that Brit horsewoman thrashing a uppity prole in the previous thread--c'est magnifique).

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (Bdeb0)

269 I'll bet you shit your sleeves!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:20 PM (5kNms)

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... fucking pirates stole my "arrrrrs"

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (8XRCm)

270 Methane Jones. Sounds cool.

Emphasis on the second syllable. meTHANE Jones.

J'methane Jones

Posted by: tu3031 at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (O5Q3r)

271 There's that old question of 'what falls faster from the top of a building, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?

Both fall at the same rate. Terminator velocity.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (r9UYA)

272 And if it is common knowledge that soil bacteria in landfills creates methane, why is is surprising that it doesn't happen everywhere like farms, forests, wetlands.....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (BoMuO)

273 That could simply be leaching.

Leeches produce oil?

This new learning fascinates me.

Posted by: rickl at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (xjiRE)

274 Given that methane is about 10X more powerful as a GHG, the effects of CO2 are that much more overblown.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at November 20, 2017 02:26 PM (e8kgV)

275 AND THE ONLY CURE FOR THAT FEVER IS.....

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More cowbell?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (Nwg0u)

276 There are an awful lot of crazy things happening in Saudi Arabia right now. Seems it is b/c of the new Prince or King or whatever. He better have a lot of bodyguards too. And a food taster.
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A deal was struck. Trumps first trip was to SA. SA finally realized they couldn't beat fracking and Trump wasn't going to shut it down. So they had to deal. And deal they did. THey are cleaning up their swamp.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (jqdl0)

277 So, when a landfill burns off their methane is it good, or bad?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (BoMuO)

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Yes.

Actually.... put me down for "doesnt make enough difference either way".

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (8XRCm)

278 "Forget the chainsaw bayonets, I just saw some footage of North Korean soldiers marching with blue dildo bayonets.
Posted by: Jwest"

Sandra Fluke is current;y searching Air Koryo's website for flights.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (OD2ni)

279 When our betters find the other 95% of the universe, MAYBE I'll let them
hassle me about what the earth's temp will be in 75 years.

When our betters can tell me with better that 50/50 certainty what the high temperature is going to be TOMORROW with better than +/- 5-degree accuracy I'll stop mocking them mercilessly. They'll still be a looooooong way away from being credible about "climate change" for me - but at least they'll be moving in the general vicinity of credibility.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (NYS7S)

280 272 was poorly worded. Why are we surprised to find out it happens everywhere. You get my point.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (BoMuO)

281 The Giffords Gungrabbers are now calling for a ban on muzzle loaders.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (vg8iE)

282 Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:24 PM (eAZVt)

Maybe that's the original question...would make more sense...but not the question I was asked. I'm sure it's changed into various things, like they teach in the game telephone.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (4Vu64)

283 Leeches produce oil?

This new learning fascinates me.

Oh sure, they're good for everything. Just ask Blackadder

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)

284 >>There are an awful lot of crazy things happening in Saudi Arabia right now. Seems it is b/c of the new Prince or King or whatever. He better have a lot of bodyguards too. And a food taster. Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:25 PM (4Vu64)

He'd better hope he doesn't have another Juhayman al-Utaybi Grand Mosque shit-show to contend with, or it's curtains for KSA.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2017 02:28 PM (Bdeb0)

285 Given that methane is about 10X more powerful as a GHG

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Well that is fortunate... because it is 10 THOUSAND times scarcer.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

286 Pretty sure I saw Methane Jones open for Salt Of The Earth at the Palladium in '86

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2017 02:28 PM (NYS7S)

287 Over at the Daily Mail (I know) there is an article that the slowdown in global warming between 1988 and 2012 is caused by a "lack of data" from the Arctic. Their "more accurate" data shows the Arctic warming 5x faster than previously believed. This new data is recalculated average global temps between those two time periods.

Yeah. Must be they started using Common Core math.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2017 02:28 PM (jxbfJ)

288
I hope he has a lot of bodyguards; I can't believe this is a popular idea. The cynic is me needs to look into it more. Does he really believe it...or is that just his public statement.

It's aligned with the the president of Egypt so maybe they're coming to their senses.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 02:29 PM (lKyWE)

289 Methane is lillk by the planet!!
We have to stop raising cows and pigs to save Mother Gaia!!!

You know, just in case someone hadn't already gone there.

Posted by: teej at November 20, 2017 02:29 PM (RQEuo)

290 276, A deal was struck. Trumps first trip was to SA. SA
finally realized they couldn't beat fracking and Trump wasn't going to
shut it down. So they had to deal. And deal they did. THey are
cleaning up their swamp.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (jqdl0)
that's my take too...they realized PDT has a whole nother agenda going on (relative to Obama) and they had to deal.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 02:29 PM (a0IVu)

291 "A deal was struck. Trumps first trip was to SA. SA finally realized they couldn't beat fracking and Trump wasn't going to shut it down. So they had to deal. And deal they did. THey are cleaning up their swamp.
Posted by: Simplemind"

Thomas Wictor has been talking about this on Twitter for months. I have to say, everything he predicted is starting to fall into place, especially modernization by Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:29 PM (OD2ni)

292 OK everybody! Hold in your farts. We can all do our part to stop climate change!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:29 PM (BoMuO)

293 Why science when you can fake news?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 20, 2017 02:30 PM (ATVNj)

294 Well that is fortunate... because it is 10 THOUSAND times scarcer.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

You have never been around my dog after he gets ahold of rawhide.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:30 PM (ycWCI)

295 You should all still send me money!

If you don't, the planet will surely die!

Posted by: Al Gore at November 20, 2017 02:30 PM (fqUgw)

296 The Giffords Gungrabbers are now calling for a ban on muzzle loaders.
Posted by: bicentennialguy

Because of the words fifty cal.
Since they like to try and claim only guns of the founding fathers, they'll shit when they find out those are sixty nine caliber.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:30 PM (5kNms)

297 And now, for a dissenting opinion:

Palestinian Authority: Prophet Mohammed Tells Kids to Throw Rocks At Jews

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:31 PM (Nwg0u)

298 292 OK everybody! Hold in your farts. We can all do our part to stop climate change!

Avoid turnips.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:31 PM (r9UYA)

299 "Yep, Mann is the man. I didn't mention Steyn since he's not a scientist. That's more of a SLAPP/free speech/judicial swamp issue.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear"

Sucks that the creator of Miami Vice is such an aswshole.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:31 PM (OD2ni)

300 OK everybody! Hold in your farts. We can all do our part to stop climate change!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:29 PM

Sorry. No can do. How else am I supposed to talk out of my *ss?

Posted by: Bull Wynn at November 20, 2017 02:31 PM (ctuyM)

301 287 Over at the Daily Mail (I know) there is an article that the slowdown in global warming between 1988 and 2012 is caused by a "lack of data" from the Arctic. Their "more accurate" data shows the Arctic warming 5x faster than previously believed. This new data is recalculated average global temps between those two time periods.

Yeah. Must be they started using Common Core math.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2017 02:28 PM (jxbfJ)

They always seem to discover things that make their models work neatly again, at least in the media, then the discoveries fall apart when the data is examined.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (RD7QR)

302 298 292 OK everybody! Hold in your farts. We can all do our part to stop climate change!

Avoid turnips.
Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:31 PM (r9UYA)

Corned Beef and Cabbage- the Silent Killer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (ycWCI)

303 I need a shower.

Just went to Memeorandum, as part of my usual tour outside the echo chamber, and it's wall-to-wall anti-Trump frippery. Just ridiculous stuff.

The most important story seems in their minds to be that McMaster mocked Trump's intelligence at a private July dinner. The usual anonymous sourcing, unsupported by any actual evidence. Just a cheap smear.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (LISuA)

304 276, A deal was struck. Trumps first trip was to SA. SA
finally realized they couldn't beat fracking and Trump wasn't going to
shut it down. So they had to deal. And deal they did. THey are
cleaning up their swamp.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:27 PM (jqdl0)
that's my take too...they realized PDT has a whole nother agenda going on (relative to Obama) and they had to deal.
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this is the real news. Not Moore, not some Hollywood perve. Trump is #winning.

SA was a funding source for a lot of terrorism. Now this the new king to be has to stay alive in SA for it to have a chance of sticking.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (VbWoj)

305 "292 OK everybody! Hold in your farts. We can all do our part to stop climate change!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"

Dude, Hillary blasts one every 10 seconds. And they all smell bad.

Posted by: Huma at November 20, 2017 02:33 PM (OD2ni)

306 The Giffords Gungrabbers are now calling for a ban on muzzle loaders.
Posted by: bicentennialguy

Because of the words fifty cal.

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Some knucklehead was on Tucker last week wanting to ban muzzleloaders because of "50 cal" and.....

......

....wait for it.....

.....

.....

MUZZLELOADER SILENCERS!!

SILENT 50 CAL KILLERS!!!

What a moron/

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:33 PM (8XRCm)

307 I can barely contain my contemptuous glee.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 20, 2017 02:34 PM (NWiLs)

308 Corned Beef and Cabbage- the Silent Killer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (ycWCI)
Okra.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 02:34 PM (a0IVu)

309 I like to look at the wetlands when I'm cruising on my massive 100-ft. houseboat with jet-skis. It has a bio-diesel engine. Children, do you know what the other word is for bio-diesel engines?

"Diesel engines".

Posted by: Prince Albert in Cannes at November 20, 2017 02:34 PM (Ndje9)

310 So, destroy the wetlands to save the earth?

Posted by: Hammer Dog at November 20, 2017 02:35 PM (ia/xY)

311 there is an article that the slowdown in global warming between 1988 and 2012 is caused by a "lack of data" from the Arctic.

LOL that's kinda ugly for their claims

"Our super accurate data from all over the world proves the world is warming so you must give me a solid gold robe to match my Maybach limo and turn the world over to the UN for a socialist government. Oh, and we lost several decades of data from a quarter of the planet's surface. But honest, we found it and it totally supports our theory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:35 PM (39g3+)

312 Measuring the temperature of the whole planet to 0.1 degrees is a stupid concept, when the daily range in just one location can be 60 degrees or more. The max and min on earth at any moment are probably separated by over 150 degrees (F).

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:35 PM (eAZVt)

313 307 I can barely contain my contemptuous glee.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 20, 2017 02:34 PM (NWiLs)

Must be that cheesy bean burrito you had for lunch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:35 PM (ycWCI)

314 So, destroy the wetlands to save the earth?
Posted by: Hammer Dog

Poor ducks.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:35 PM (5kNms)

315 If you could put a suppressor on a muzzle loader, so much the better. Those things are insanely loud

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:36 PM (39g3+)

316 But muzzleloaders - which fire one shot at a time and must be laboriously loaded through by hand down the barrel - can deliver what "Giffords" calls "a particularly lethal .50 caliber round" and are therefore unacceptable as well.

So, rounds less than .50 Cal are less lethal, and therefore ok? And isn't lethality the point of any gun?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:36 PM (BoMuO)

317 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:35 PM (39g3+)

Nice explanation, but I'm pretty sure they're going to go with something closer to "STFU and hand-over your wallet, serf - because we say so."

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2017 02:36 PM (NYS7S)

318 "292 OK everybody! Hold in your farts. We can all do our part to stop climate change!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"

Its Thanksgiving week. Our family (lot of brothers) has to discuss a stipulation ahead of time to leave the room during the game for the inevitable TF's (turkey farts).

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (OD2ni)

319 there is an article that the slowdown in global warming between 1988 and 2012 is caused by a "lack of data" from the Arctic.

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Excuuuse me.... Mr Mann????

Did your global warming modeling predict the current TWO DECADE LONG hiatus of "observed" global warming???

No????

WELL THEN YOUR MODELS DONT PREDICT THINGS VERY FUCKING WELL NOW DO THEY????!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (8XRCm)

320 The Giffords Gungrabbers are now calling for a ban on muzzle loaders.

-
Maybe they meant Muzzie loaders.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (Nwg0u)

321 Wait.
Auto-c wants to turn hell to he'll but lillk?
Yep, that's a by God word.

Just increased my Scrabble power I guess.

By the way, was supposed to be killing. But then...

Posted by: teej at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (RQEuo)

322 >>308 Corned Beef and Cabbage- the Silent Killer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (ycWCI)
Okra. Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 02:34 PM (a0IVu)

Cevapi/kofta kebab. Weapon of gas destruction.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (Bdeb0)

323 Half of Canada is wetlands. Sayin'

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (r9UYA)

324 I really really really really really want petroleum to turn out to be a renewable resource just because all the right people would weep bitter tears of bitterness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 20, 2017 02:10 PM (mf5HN)
========

There was a joint Swedish-Russian study of this and that is the conclusion they came to. Taken with a grain of salt, of course. But it would explain, as someone mentioned above, why oceans of it are suddenly found where it was thought to not exist or be depleted.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (vg8iE)

325 Cheryl and I refer to Hillary's underwear as the wetlands.

Posted by: Huma at November 20, 2017 02:38 PM (OD2ni)

326 If you could put a suppressor on a muzzle loader, so much the better. Those things are insanely loud
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:36 PM (39g3+)

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pssssst......gun grabbers.......the suppressor would go over where the projectile goes in.....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:38 PM (8XRCm)

327 But muzzleloaders - which fire one shot at a time and must be laboriously loaded through by hand down the barrel - can deliver what "Giffords" calls "a particularly lethal .50 caliber round" and are therefore unacceptable as well.

10 gauge sabot, fin stabilized, rifled slug.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:38 PM (5kNms)

328 Its Thanksgiving week. Our family (lot of brothers) has to discuss a stipulation ahead of time to leave the room during the game for the inevitable TF's (turkey farts).
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That is not how any of this is done.

Make a roaring fire in the fireplace. The draw takes care of the effluvium. Also don't watch the game.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:38 PM (RdM2b)

329 "Well that is fortunate... because it is 10 THOUSAND times scarcer."

So -399.96%? LOL! Sorry for the math pedantry. I'll try to be 3000% less snarky in the future.

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:39 PM (eAZVt)

330 2018 is when Long Island and NYC are supposed to submerge beneath Mean Low Low Water ( the NOAA chart datum for sea level).

Not happening. A real science guy would retract the original peer-reviewed articles. These were published in 2001-2003 for global warming events in 2013-2019.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 20, 2017 02:39 PM (hyuyC)

331 "In just the last decade, ocean researchers have seen evidence of methane
being produced in oxygenated water, and dubbed the phenomenon the
"methane paradox," but no microorganism has been found to be
responsible."

------------------------------------

Fish farts, Duh!

Posted by: Javems at November 20, 2017 02:39 PM (yOqwj)

332 Fox News host Jeanine Pirro hit with speeding charges after cops clock her driving 119 mph upstate -Daily News

Now that's a carbon footprint.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:39 PM (r9UYA)

333 Measuring the temperature of the whole planet to 0.1 degrees is a stupid concept, when the daily range in just one location can be 60 degrees or more. The max and min on earth at any moment are probably separated by over 150 degrees (F).

Not to mention that any measurement pre-digital is questionable whether they had accuracy to 0.1C. And before direct measurements of temperature models and surrogates like tree rings certainly can't produce a number to 0.1C, yet all of the climate charts show temperature variations through the years of 0.1C. Any scientist should look at the data and say "How are you getting these significant figures?" You can't produce data more accurate than the method used to measure it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:40 PM (BoMuO)

334 pssssst......gun grabbers.......the suppressor would go over where the projectile goes in.....

Yeah you'd have to pull it off every time to realistically load it. Even the best couldn't load a musket faster than 4 times a minute, and that was smoothbore.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:40 PM (39g3+)

335 ...so if I fill in the wetlands behind my house to put in a nice yard, I'm not ruining the environment, I'm actually SAVING it?!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2017 02:40 PM (wmaTe)

336 332
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro hit with speeding charges after cops clock her driving 119 mph upstate -Daily News

Now that's a carbon footprint.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:39 PM (r9UYA)
She is pretty feisty but dang, that is nuts.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 02:40 PM (a0IVu)

337 Its Thanksgiving week. Our family (lot of brothers) has to discuss a stipulation ahead of time to leave the room during the game for the inevitable TF's (turkey farts).
Posted by: Benji Carver

Tryptophan Flatulence. It'll really knock you out.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:41 PM (5kNms)

338 If the government ceased giving away grant money, the global warming scare would die away overnight.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 20, 2017 02:41 PM (LISuA)

339 "How are you getting these significant figures?" You can't produce data more accurate than the method used to measure it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2017 02:40 PM (BoMuO)

Sig Figs. They always get you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:41 PM (ycWCI)

340 So, if cars need to be eliminated in order to save the planet from CO2, it would only be logical that we immediately pave all the wetlands since they're producing an even more noxious greenhouse gas.

Posted by: red speck at November 20, 2017 02:41 PM (6Krd7)

341 "How are you getting these significant figures?" You can't produce data more accurate than the method used to measure it.

I just need another mil or two in grant money, Congressman. Honest.

Posted by: DocJ at November 20, 2017 02:42 PM (NYS7S)

342 She is pretty feisty but dang, that is nuts.
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I got passed on the Turnpike over the weekend by an older guy and his equally old wife.

I was doing about 90 plus at the time.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 20, 2017 02:43 PM (LISuA)

343 >>340 So, if cars need to be eliminated in order to save the planet from CO2, it would only be logical that we immediately pave all the wetlands since they're producing an even more noxious greenhouse gas.

Bonus: Less mosquitoes. Winning!

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:43 PM (r9UYA)

344 Which is why the warmists always state CO2 in terms of TONS. Sounds waaaayyyy bigger.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

and they just call it "carbon", cuz that is black and dirty like coal, and they are all about the messaging and the narrative, nothing about the science.

"Carbon Tax" cuz that sounds like we are stopping those old sooty smokestacks that turned things black ... (like they still have all over China) Our scrubbers clean out the bad stuff, but they demand we bury the CO2 ... they really hate us.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2017 02:43 PM (/aIFg)

345 Some knucklehead was on Tucker last week wanting to ban muzzleloaders because of "50 cal" and.....

......

....wait for it.....

.....

.....

MUZZLELOADER SILENCERS!!

SILENT 50 CAL KILLERS!!!

What a moron/

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:33 PM (8XRCm)

That was probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen on TV. It could have been article from the Onion.

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 20, 2017 02:43 PM (M+Lyo)

346 "In just the last decade, ocean researchers have seen evidence of methane
being produced in oxygenated water, and dubbed the phenomenon the
"methane paradox," but no microorganism has been found to be
responsible."

------------------------------------

Fish farts, Duh!
Posted by: Javems

Whale farts. From fishy smelling plankton.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 02:44 PM (5kNms)

347
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro hit with speeding charges after cops clock her driving 119 mph upstate -Daily News

That's more than 20 mph over the speed limit so it should reckless driving

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 20, 2017 02:44 PM (lKyWE)

348 Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:39 PM (r9UYA)
She is pretty feisty but dang, that is nuts.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 02:40 PM (a0IVu)

Where and what model car. Hell Phoenix to Vegas thats a no brainer. I did 100 in a Lexus for quite a ways and sports cars passed me.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2017 02:44 PM (VezBU)

349 That was probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen on TV. It could have been article from the Onion.

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 20, 2017 02:43 PM (M+Lyo)

What about the 20ft plume of smoke

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 20, 2017 02:44 PM (M+Lyo)

350 "Drain the Swamp" now also means "Save the Planet".
winning

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2017 02:45 PM (/aIFg)

351 Sara Sanders bringin the funny:

North Korea has just been placed on our list of state sponsors of
terrorism. I would like to remind Kim Jong Un that as of November 8th
2016, the U.S. ended it's policy of sending the countries on that list
pallets of cash.

https://twitter.com/PressSecSanders/status/932663075618115589

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2017 02:46 PM (W+vEI)

352 It was my first ride in a Tesla. That car is a rocket ship.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 20, 2017 02:46 PM (LISuA)

353 Fill the wetlands with Chromic acid!

Posted by: Chris M at November 20, 2017 02:47 PM (eAZVt)

354 Right now your little ones are sitting in a class room being told that man, and man only is destroying the earth because of evil SUV's and coal!!

Posted by: Colin at November 20, 2017 02:47 PM (Zx7KA)

355 Dry turkey. I'm talking so dry that when you cut it, the knife turns it into little bits of turkey dust. You put the dust into your mouth with a spoon, and it absorbs all the saliva in your mouth more effectively than the little oral sump pump your dentist uses.

*Sigh* she's a nice woman, but she stuffs the bird and is deathly afraid of salmonella so she cooks it unto wood.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:47 PM (w+ZmB)

356 "351 Sara Sanders bringin the funny:"

That's awesome.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 20, 2017 02:47 PM (398bZ)

357 I hate the Wetlands. They're stupid and wet, and there are bugs everywhere, and I think I maced a crane.

Posted by: Lindsay Bluth Funke at November 20, 2017 02:47 PM (hvf9s)

358 "Fox News host Jeanine Pirro hit with speeding charges after cops clock her driving 119 mph upstate -Daily News"

It kind of impressive if she was going that fast on the Taconic Parkway.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:48 PM (OD2ni)

359 322 >>308 Corned Beef and Cabbage- the Silent Killer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:32 PM (ycWCI)
Okra. Posted by: IC at November 20, 2017 02:34 PM (a0IVu)

Cevapi/kofta kebab. Weapon of gas destruction.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2017 02:37 PM (Bdeb0)

REMOVE KEBAB!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 20, 2017 02:48 PM (NWiLs)

360 "Right now your little ones are sitting in a class room being told that man, and man only is destroying the earth because of evil SUV's and coal!!"

So what are they saying...

Women should have been in charge, because most of the shit invented in th last 150 years....

Wouldn't have been?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2017 02:49 PM (EyPfd)

361 "351 Sara Sanders bringin the funny:"

That's awesome.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed"

I fine her adorable.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:49 PM (OD2ni)

362 I would like to remind Kim Jong Un that as of November 8th 2016, the U.S. ended it's policy of sending the countries on that list pallets of cash.

Excellent. Very excellent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:50 PM (39g3+)

363
Last year during hunting season someone was using a muzzle loader (in my state they have a specific special day for them) and holy shit was that m-fer loud. It that dude wasn't wearing ear protection he's got closed captions permanently turned on his tv by now.

Stick of dynamite loud.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 02:50 PM (ajiE5)

364 Go on just about any swamp tour in Louisiana. See all the bubbles coming to the surface. Ask the guide "Hey, what are all those bubbles from?"

"Methane" will be his answer.

I picked that up about 45 years ago.

Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2017 02:50 PM (XTiHL)

365 *Sigh* she's a nice woman, but she stuffs the bird and is deathly afraid of salmonella so she cooks it unto wood.

Its like my mom. I thought I didn't like some vegetables until I had a chance to eat them when they weren't cooked into mush.

I fine her adorable.

Me too

She's got a perfect mom look. She deserves a hug.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:51 PM (39g3+)

366 354 Right now your little ones are sitting in a class room being told that man, and man only is destroying the earth because of evil SUV's and coal!!

Posted by: Colin at November 20, 2017 02:47 PM (Zx7KA)

Yes. In Elementary School, all the content in the reading period is about how the planet is dying, animals are exterminated, recycling is the answer, the earth is burning up so solar and wind power, and the oppression of minorities. EVERY SINGLE THING THEY READ.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2017 02:51 PM (VezBU)

367 Methane" will be his answer
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Where there's swamp gas there's fire!

Posted by: Swampfire! at November 20, 2017 02:51 PM (GhcEk)

368 More winning...

http://tinyurl.com/yaw58qmx

Posted by: tu3031 at November 20, 2017 02:51 PM (O5Q3r)

369 Rich Lowry gets crap (some deserved) for being a bit of a moderate squish, but he refused to back down to Michael Mann which I respected.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:05 PM (OD2ni)

I concur whole-heartedly.

Posted by: Not Mark Steyn at November 20, 2017 02:52 PM (FVLz6)

370 North Korea has just been placed on our list of state sponsors of terrorism. I would like to remind Kim Jong Un that as of November 8th 2016, the U.S. ended it's policy of sending the countries on that list pallets of cash.

https://twitter.com/PressSecSanders/status/932663075618115589

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2017 02:46 PM (W+vEI)

A nice little zinger for Prezzy Choom

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2017 02:52 PM (493sH)

371 >>I fine her adorable.

Her twitter feed is sasssssssy!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2017 02:52 PM (W+vEI)

372 Well this looks to be an easy fix then: Destroy all the swamps on Planet Earth - Global warming problem solved , yes? Easy-peasy, lemon-squeezy!

Posted by: Publius Redux at November 20, 2017 02:52 PM (Fb9aZ)

373 v

My favorite memory from visiting relatives in Missouri was my grandma's new crotchety old husband trying out the black powder rifle at the fair. He handed his Pabst to my brother, shouldered that old boy up and cut loose.

The sound alone hit me like a fist, and I wasn't near. The cloud of smoke was so dense I could barely see the old man knocked on his ass. It was hilarious. He swore like only an old reprobate can. I learned new words.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:52 PM (39g3+)

374 OT/Prior Article

"Multiculturalism, the “religion” of the European Union (EU) elites, enforced by many EU states through “diversity” programs, has begun to lose its luster."

I laughed only b/c they lost their "luster" 3 years ago when Merkel said "multiculturalism does not work."

That was before the influx of millions of migrants. When she single-handedly open the floodgates to the EU...not just Germany. And then refused to reverse her decision.

So they have not "begun" to lose their luster. They have been failures for over 3 years. Totally rusted out with decay.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 20, 2017 02:53 PM (4Vu64)

375 My car can maybe get up to 115 before it would fly apart Charlie Brown style.

Pirro must have one of them high end exotic cars I hear about.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2017 02:53 PM (71/k8)

376 Busses and people, were really not all that different.

London Tries COFFEE to Power Buses...

http://nyti.ms/2iyD7Uj

(Link to NYT)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:53 PM (Nwg0u)

377 Yes. In Elementary School, all the content in the reading period is about how the planet is dying, animals are exterminated, recycling is the answer, the earth is burning up so solar and wind power, and the oppression of minorities. EVERY SINGLE THING THEY READ.

Don't forget the books that tell them how bad white men are and how everything is -ist.

Sending your kids to public schools around here is child abuse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)

378 Last year during hunting season someone was using a muzzle loader (in my state they have a specific special day for them) and holy shit was that m-fer loud. It that dude wasn't wearing ear protection he's got closed captions permanently turned on his tv by now.

Stick of dynamite loud.
Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 02:50 PM (ajiE5)
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Yup.

Modern propellants (smokeless gun powder) are marked HIGHLY FLAMMABLE.

Black powder is considered EXPLOSIVE and retailers must provide blast protection for storing their backstock.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:54 PM (8XRCm)

379 NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is coming to Iowa

A safari into the heart of the dark continent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 02:55 PM (Nwg0u)

380 359. * fistbump*

Serbia Stronk.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 20, 2017 02:55 PM (a7/+c)

381 "Its like my mom. I thought I didn't like some vegetables until I had a chance to eat them when they weren't cooked into mush."

Exactly. Fresh asparagus steamed or grilled until it has a light crunch is delicious. Overcooked mushy asparagus is gross.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2017 02:56 PM (OD2ni)

382 Pirro must have one of them high end exotic cars I hear about.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2017 02:53 PM (71/k

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Well... I think she has an exotic rear end. If her and I were to ever meet I definitely show her the best 47 seconds of her life.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:56 PM (8XRCm)

383 Local buses here run on natural gas. Great idea, I think, we've got tons of the stuff in the USA. They are somewhat quieter, as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:56 PM (39g3+)

384 NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is coming to Iowa.
+++++++++++++
this is just delusional.

Posted by: simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:56 PM (jIfNY)

385 Nood. Clarence Thomas is a time traveling Jewish-like influencer!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 02:57 PM (ycWCI)

386 >>368 More winning...

http://tinyurl.com/yaw58qmx

Glory Hole employment will go up.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 20, 2017 02:57 PM (r9UYA)

387 351
Sara Sanders bringin the funny:

North Korea has just been placed on our list of state sponsors of

terrorism. I would like to remind Kim Jong Un that as of November 8th

2016, the U.S. ended it's policy of sending the countries on that list

pallets of cash.

https://twitter.com/PressSecSanders/status/932663075618115589

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2017 02:46 PM (W+vEI)

Give that woman a raise!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 20, 2017 02:57 PM (tbOMB)

388 NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is coming to Iowa.
+++++++++++++
this is just delusional.

+++++++++++++++++

Nood. Clarence Thomas is a time traveling Jewish-like influencer!
=======================
I stand corrected.

Posted by: simplemind at November 20, 2017 02:57 PM (9CeX+)

389 377 Yes. In Elementary School, all the content in the reading period is about how the planet is dying, animals are exterminated, recycling is the answer, the earth is burning up so solar and wind power, and the oppression of minorities. EVERY SINGLE THING THEY READ.

Don't forget the books that tell them how bad white men are and how everything is -ist.

Sending your kids to public schools around here is child abuse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)

It is Chris. I "pushed into" gen ed. Classes as an academic coach to help kids in my caseload keep up with the lessons. I've actually walked out of classes because I couldn't stand listening to the lies being told. Especially about race and 'oppression'. Horrible.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2017 02:59 PM (VezBU)

390 "Researchers have long known that wetlands are Earth's largest natural source of methane."

Say what? I well recall seeing on one of the "sciency" channels just recently a report claiming that according to the "We love Science sexually" scientist crowd the largest source of natural methane on the planet was the ocean floors of the world; that just underneath the seabed there are huge deposits of methane. Not only that but that these deposits do bubble to the surface and into the atmosphere from time to time.

Wish they'd get their stories straight...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at November 20, 2017 03:00 PM (Or7KF)

391 For fun, I once entered a revolver match with a BP revolver (a Ruger Old Army).

I had the last station at one end of the line, the one furthest upwind, as it turned out, with a 5 to 10 mph wind blowing right down the line.

Many were the alibis, not to mention grumblings and whinging.

Especially on the rapid fire segments. Extra cylinders, FTW!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 20, 2017 03:00 PM (ctuyM)

392 I just emitted methane and scared the cat.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2017 03:01 PM (VezBU)

393 Black powder is considered EXPLOSIVE and retailers must provide blast protection for storing their backstock.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 20, 2017 02:54 PM (8XRCm)

I own a .62 caliber flintlock/doglock pistol, a working English Civil War-era reproduction. It's a ginormous thing, with a metal plate on the butt for using as a club after the shot is expended. That gun sure puts the boom in ka-boom when you shoot it. Loud? Man, it's loud, with a big ball of flame and a cloud of black powder smoke.

More fun than a human being can stand.

Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2017 03:01 PM (7IUXx)

394 @374

Multiculturalism does not work amongst European countries, why would anyone think injecting a complety foreign, antagonistic and uassimiateable culture?

Posted by: Kreplach at November 20, 2017 03:03 PM (71/k8)

395 Fox News host Jeanine Pirro hit with speeding charges after cops clock her driving 119 mph upstate -Daily News

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Can't Drive Hunnert 'n Five

- Sammy Hagar

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 20, 2017 03:03 PM (Nwg0u)

396 Pirro was doing 119 on the Taconic!?! Fer Chissakes! She should put together a NASCAR racing team. On that road that speed is damn near suicidal. Simply keeping the car on a NY Parkway, particularly in Westchester, at that speed? Inconceivable! And yes - That mean word means what I think it means.

Damned impressive.

Posted by: Publius Redux at November 20, 2017 03:07 PM (Fb9aZ)

397 Last year during hunting season someone was using a muzzle loader (in my state they have a specific special day for them) and holy shit was that m-fer loud. It that dude wasn't wearing ear protection he's got closed captions permanently turned on his tv by now.

Stick of dynamite loud.
Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 02:50 PM (ajiE5)
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Yup.

Modern propellants (smokeless gun powder) are marked HIGHLY FLAMMABLE.

Black powder is considered EXPLOSIVE and retailers must provide blast protection for storing their backstock.

Posted by: fixerupper

Speaking as a former ACWQ reenactor, yup, those puppies are loud, especially when firing in volley, in a formation.

Also: NEVER use a modern propellent like Pyrodex for blank firing.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 20, 2017 03:18 PM (326rv)

398 Don't forget the books that tell them how bad white men are and how everything is -ist.

Sending your kids to public schools around here is child abuse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)

My personal fav was when the boy came home and told me that Prohibition came about because people were too drunk to take care of their kids, so the government passed a law saying you can't drink beer anymore.

WTF?

I set him straight on that score, and also explained the rule of unintended consequences, such as moonshiners and revenuers.

He gets much better history from me, and has more fun doing it, too.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 20, 2017 03:21 PM (7UW64)

399 So, it's not cow farts after all?

Posted by: aelfheld at November 20, 2017 04:00 PM (IxDhF)

400 Be careful. Methane doesn't last long in the atmosphere when it's released--just a matter of weeks.

Many alarmists tout methane release as an extreme danger (re especially the cathrates at the bottoms of the oceans and the tundras.) And cows. Oh those stinky cows who 'release' a lot of it.

but, as I said, it doesn't last long in the atmosphere though a byproduct of methane chemical breakdown is, wait for it, CO2.

But the CO2 is ALREADY COUNTED as it spreads all around the planet. That's the important thing.

The climate models of much bigger problems than 'not counting methane'.

Posted by: Maggie Gray at November 20, 2017 04:06 PM (kcQIp)

401 I guess Gaia, Mother Earth, has been the most egregious polluter and green house gas emitter of all.
I have it! Let's just tax her or force Mama to buy carbon taxes to offset her blatant destruction of herself.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at November 20, 2017 04:20 PM (9BLnV)

402 ip banned sux

Posted by: IP at November 20, 2017 04:21 PM (/fNs2)

403 Wait!.... or not..

Posted by: IP at November 20, 2017 04:21 PM (/fNs2)

404 It's not like they didn't know about it. They've been blaming UFOs on swamp gas for decades.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 20, 2017 04:31 PM (IuYIh)

405 There is a lake near where I live that farts beautiful patterns of methane bubbles in the ice at this time of year.http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/01/frozen-air-bubbles-in-abraham-lake.html

Posted by: 2soonold2latesmart at November 20, 2017 04:41 PM (I0FO9)

406 When I studied astrophysics in the late 1970s, everyone knew about the greenhouse gases fraud.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 20, 2017 04:43 PM (7PllL)

407 Methane cometh from pig sh*t.

Posted by: You Can Shovel Sh*t Can't You? at November 21, 2017 08:32 AM (EATOD)

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