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Sunday Morning Book Thread: 11/19/2017

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Stuttgart City Library

Last week I mentioned the feel and the weight and the effortless browsing capacity of a printed and bound dictionary being an integral part of the experience. And that prompted this week's question; What other reference books are best in the old-fashioned bound format, and which ones do you have floating around your desk or dining room table or bathroom or wherever you do your best work?

I have Bartlett's Familiar Quotations within arm's length, because it is tremendously useful not only as the obvious reference for who said what, but also as a glimpse into the time of the quotation in question. For instance, I recently looked up Franklin's famous but unfortunately apocryphal quotation about beer, and that led me to Samuel Johnson which led me to a great quotation from David Hume....

Avarice, the spur of industry.

And that led me to a few pages away, where John Adams makes a point that is lost on our foolish liberal friends...
Fear is the foundation of most governments.

[Why yes, I am using the word "quotation" correctly. It is a noun. The word "quote" is a verb. Harrumph!]

I have a few science books (Oooh...Molecular Biology! Yes, I am a geek), and my statistics textbook that is surprisingly useful in the oddest situations. I long ago forgot how to do statistical calculations much beyond the probability of dice rolls, but it is useful to have that nearby so I can refresh my memory.

I have misplaced my copy of The Elements Of Style, by Strunk And White, so I have no idea on which side of the Oxford Comma Wars they fight.

The internet is such a quick and often marvelous source that we sometimes forget that it isn't always accurate! Yes, I know...try to tell that to anyone younger than 40 and they will look at you as if you had three heads and were belching fire. So having a few time-honored reference books floating around isn't such a bad idea.

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It is fast approaching that time of the year, when you weird Christian folk rush around, madly seeking just the perfect gift for 17 wildly different people, and we weird Jewish folk copy you and do pretty much the same thing, although on a smaller scale.

I love giving books for two reasons. The first and most obvious one is that they are really easy to wrap. The second is that even if the recipient isn't immediately thrilled beyond measure that you got him The Faerie Queene in the original typeface, it might just grow on him, because books have a way of doing just that.

Here's my incomplete list of books that I have given more than once, although as far as I can remember, never to the same person. I'm sure I have mentioned all of them on the blog or the comments, so they may be familiar.

Snow In August is Pete Hammill's best work. Push past the fact that he is an unrepentant liberal and rejoice in his marvelous writing and beautiful and touching storytelling.

The Storm Of War is, in my humble and amateurish opinion, the best history of World War II. Well-written, meticulously researched, and with enough detail to please even the most knowledgeable of us.

City Of Thieves A perfect short novel that is almost fantasy, but not quite.

Balthazar Cookbook Yeah, I had to throw in a cookbook. It's filled with classic recipes that are obviously reduced from the restaurant's kitchen reference, but work very well for the home cook. Cookbooks don't get much better than this.

Agincourt Historically accurate, easy to read, a rollicking good story, and the good guys win in the end. You can't beat it!

So now it's your turn. What books do you love to give as gifts?

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Posted by: CBD at 09:00 AM




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1 I am still working on the Honor Harrington series re-read. On Book 6 now. But I downloaded book 1 of the Thpmas Covenant series this week when Amazon had it on sale for 0.99. I think I will hit that nex and then go back to David Weber.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 08:57 AM (mpXpK)

2 A very orderly library. Like an Ikea library.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 08:58 AM (qJtVm)

3 I still have a bunch of dead tree reference books but I never use them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

4 I don't give books as gifts. I will give an Amazon gift certificate so they can pick their own.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

5 Hey, my home town library. Leave to us Germans to make a library as sterile as an operating room.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 09:02 AM (/tuJf)

6 Perennial gift books include nice hardbacks of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, big art or fashion books, and collections of maps. Visual feasts that leave you craving the hundredth helping.

I also like to peruse used book stores for 19th Century versions of favorite classics with period illustrations.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:03 AM (qJtVm)

7 Harrumph!]

We got a Harrumph outa that guy !

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2017 09:03 AM (TZagw)

8 Finally read News of the World. Excellent, excellent. Would make such a great movie except you know they would ruin it. Wanted to lend my kindle copy to someone but apparently they no longer offer that service, ended up just buying it for them.
Also read Rumer Godden's book China Court, which was an Amazon special this week. She is such a fine writer and that was a lovely book, although possibly of more interest to the ladies.
Planning to get the third Brian Sanderson book, Oathbringers, but maybe not until after Thanksgiving. Lots to do the next few days. Happy Thanksgiving one and all, don't forget to save some turkey for soup!

Posted by: Miss Sippi at November 19, 2017 09:05 AM (5fPhA)

9 I have literally dozens of Bible commentaries. The one I use most is a single-book commentary put out by the faculty of Moody Bible Institute named, oddly enough, The Moody Bible Commentary. I like it because I can find lots of things in one book. If I need something more thorough, I can go to commentaries on each individual book of the Bible. My favorite for that is the complete New Testament series by John MacCarthur. I think there are 33 volumes in that set.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 19, 2017 09:05 AM (lwiT4)

10 I read Bugles and a Tiger: My Life in the Gurkhas by John Masters. This is the first book of a trilogy about his time spent in the British and Indian Armies before, during, and after WW2. This one takes place prior to WW2. In 1933 at age 18 he was accepted at Sandhurst Royal Military College for officer training, where it seems they had adopted some of the Spartan's way of training their boys for hoplite duty; Don't Get Caught! Prior to joining the 4th Gurkha Rifles he, like all British officer candidates, was vetted by the Gurkhas in the unit. This usually involved getting the candidate drunk. In Vino Veritas, latin for In Wine There is Truth. During a military campaign in Waziristan (in present day Pakistan) against Pathan tribesmen (moslems) their ROE were almost identical to our military today.

A fasinating, educational, and often funny read.

In addition to having wickedly cool knives, called kukri, those Gurkhas were and still are some bad mamajammas.

For your listening pleasure.

Kingston Trio-Hangman
https://youtu.be/db8MJ2HHPEY

AC/DC-Thunderstruck
https://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM

Royal Scots Dragoon Guards-The Gael
https://youtu.be/BR-csWS1bcM

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at November 19, 2017 09:05 AM (Kfmqy)

11 I don't like that library. Libraries should have comfy chairs and smell like oldness.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 19, 2017 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

12 Yay Book thread!!!

thanks CBD!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:07 AM (hMwEB)

13 That's a lovely bound edition of National Pornographic in the photo.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 09:07 AM (ANIFC)

14 A very orderly library. Like an Ikea library.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

For the life of me, I don't understand the crazy popularity of Ikea. I was told by a European "friend" how wonderful it is, and how stupid Americans were for not embracing it sooner.
Whatever. I see it as cold, sterile low price junk.

That library in Stuttgart, looks like a real fun place.
Not!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at November 19, 2017 09:07 AM (S6Pax)

15 The Storm Of War is, in my humble and amateurish opinion, the best history of World War II.

I'm currently reading "A Bridge Too Far" by
Cornelius Ryan, and the movie didn't come close to describing this battle.

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (TZagw)

16 Speaking of books, get a free novel today - link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (hMwEB)

17 Ah. The Stuttgart Sterile school of architecture. Edgy, yet elegant in it's cold sparseness. A nice departure from those stodgy old designs which strove to exude the bourgeois values of warmth, comfort, and artful visual appeal.

I approve.

Posted by: I.M. Pei at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (5OO3x)

18 I prefer both history and technical books in hardcopy format, since it allows you to quickly flip back and forth between sections for comparison purposes. For example, illustrated histories showing the same scene/area in different time periods, programming books showing progressively more complex coding techniques, or auto maintenance manuals showing different perspectives of the same procedure.

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (HBMMh)

19 Listening to the second book of The History of the English Speaking People by Churchill. Having just finished Of Plymouth Plantation, at Inspector Cussword's recommendation, the differences were interesting when Churchill got to that bit. Naturally, he was mostly mentioning the events in passing since they were a mere detail to his focus on events in England at the time.

I had never consciously realized that the Pilgrims were at the time of the English Civil War until listening to Plantation and Churchill considered the English Government's distraction an inability to help the settlers at a critical time be a big part of what led to the eventual split.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:09 AM (rp9xB)

20 Praise you, Vic, for eschewing that stupid "First!" ego stroke.

In regard to books, my wife came up with the idea of getting a book for each member of the family, to be left on beds Christmas night. She did the "pillow book" selection for the kids, leaving only her book for me to buy. I don't do well with choosing gifts, so she is usually disappointed. But I keep trying.

My brother-in-law has been heavily interested in the Civil War, so for years we would get him yet another book on that subject.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 19, 2017 09:10 AM (VQjk/)

21 Oh, Moron Rolf Nelson has a new book!

"Heretics of St Possenti," a prequel to "The
Stars Came Back."

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077CVXWVP

He says it's "About the founding of an order of monks... with guns!"


Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:10 AM (hMwEB)

22 11 I don't like that library. Libraries should have comfy chairs and smell like oldness.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 19, 2017 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

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but we also offer insurance quotes. we're very competitive!

Posted by: Flo at November 19, 2017 09:12 AM (vChNs)

23 17 Ah. The Stuttgart Sterile school of architecture. Edgy, yet elegant in it's cold sparseness. A nice departure from those stodgy old designs which strove to exude the bourgeois values of warmth, comfort, and artful visual appeal.

I approve.
Posted by: I.M. Pei at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (5OO3x)

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you mey vithdral ONE book. But first you must touch my monkey!

Posted by: Dieter at November 19, 2017 09:14 AM (vChNs)

24

All that library needs is people walking around in 1970 pop clothing and HAL 9000's glowing eyes everywhere to make it look like something out of Roddenberry's Genesis II.

Ugh.

Posted by: In Vino Verits at November 19, 2017 09:15 AM (t3kPl)

25
On a classical music blog I used to visit, a tired, old comment was made, "Greed is no basis for an economy." I replied, "It's better then envy." Talk about getting someone riled. I felt like I had been on vacation for three weeks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 09:15 AM (efrrf)

26 I feel like that library should have a milk bar, furniture in the shape of naked people, and Moog synthesizer muzik piped through the sound system.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (qJtVm)

27 I've been working my way through a massive P.G. Wodehouse collection. At first I made the mistake of listening to the stories consecutively but he reuses a lot of character names and "types" in his, I assume, earlier works so now I intersperse them with old(ish) mysteries by Mary Stewart, Patricia Wentworth, etc.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (rp9xB)

28 leaving only her book for me to buy. I don't do well with choosing gifts, so she is usually disappointed. But I keep trying.

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the kama sutra is always a tasteful choice

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (vChNs)

29 Wouldn't want to be a cleaning lady at that library. I wonder if you have to take your shoes off before entering.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (HiDrR)

30 >>I feel like that library should have a milk bar, furniture in the shape of naked people, and Moog synthesizer muzik piped through the sound system.

Don't forget the beer, pretzels and sausage stand.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 09:18 AM (/tuJf)

31 My favorite book to give as a gift for the past few years has been Nourishing Traditions. It's a cookbook and nutritional advice explaining why butter is good for you, that animal fats are better than polyunsaturated fats, and that we should all consume more bone broth. It's a lifesaver, and I think everyone I know who gets presents from me has gotten it at this point. Except for my children, who have just left the nest. They're next.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at November 19, 2017 09:18 AM (IbzI6)

32 26 I feel like that library should have a milk bar, furniture in the shape of naked people, and Moog synthesizer muzik piped through the sound system.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (qJtVm)


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so long as it is playing the Ludwig Van...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 09:18 AM (vChNs)

33 I have a Random House dictionary that must weight ... wait, let me check ...yes, weighs fourteen pounds and has collapsed a set of bookshelves. I can't use it because how do you look up the proper spelling of a word when you can't spell it? Google! The Dictionary also cam with a CD for use on Windows 1.0. I doubt the CD will run on anything now.

I also have the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" because I had a copy in high school and learned to use the log tables. The modern edition doesn't have log tables. You can't get printed log tables because every computer in the world will compute logarithms as you need them, assuming you have electricity.

I also have a hard copy edition of the ARRL Antenna Book, haven't opened it in years. And I have a modestly large thesaurus which I use occasionally. (Also have a handy pocket sized paperback. )

I have also forgotten everything technical I had ever learned. Can't do anything with any of those books anymore.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 19, 2017 09:19 AM (4XCge)

34 Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:10 AM (hMwEB)

I really enjoyed The Stars Came Back and there is certainly plenty of backstory to fill in. On the "monks with guns" front, the kids really enjoyed the bit of Extra Credit History about Japan before the closure. It was news to me as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:19 AM (rp9xB)

35 and that we should all consume more bone broth.

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you misspelled Whiskey

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 09:20 AM (vChNs)

36 It does look like a habitat for Flo.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:22 AM (hMwEB)

37 I finished Dead Mans' Walk by Larry McMurty and am a third of the way through Comanche Moon. Am I the only one that finds Augustus McCrae to be thoroughly unlikable?

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at November 19, 2017 09:22 AM (VJBq9)

38 I have misplaced my copy of The Elements Of Style, by Strunk And White, so I have no idea on which side of the Oxford Comma Wars they fight.


That is one of the few truly important issues on which I've changed my mind. I generally cling to what I was taught growing up as "right" in the "established in the firmament" sense of inherently and eternally correct.

But the Oxford comma is too useful to neglect.

I have cast off the burden of my miseducation. I am free. My being is lightened.

I embrace the Oxford comma.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:22 AM (gIRsn)

39 Those blue couches look like tidy bowl cakes.

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (9TU00)

40 Oh yeah, what I'm reading. Mostly just finishing odds and ends. Frank Herbert's "Under Pressure", Jack Williamson's "The Green Girl", plus whatever's in arm's length from my eerily comfortable reading chaise lounge.

Also checked out "Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor", which looks fun.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (qJtVm)

41 I like Ikea. The assemble-it- yourself aspect appeals to me. And I like cheap.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (hMwEB)

42 For those with herniatic tomes, I suggest a plinth. It looks great next to your marble bust of Catullus and your crystal decanter set in the hollow globe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:25 AM (qJtVm)

43 41 I like Ikea. The assemble-it- yourself aspect appeals to me. And I like cheap.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (hMwEB)

I have a 4x4 unit of their cube Kallax shelves which serves as a room divider & bookcase.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 09:25 AM (ANIFC)

44 I actually get a faint urine smell looking at the library. Not, the strong urine smell you get at most public libraries.

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2017 09:26 AM (9TU00)

45 Hello, fellow Book Threadists!

I've been traveling, so less time on the book thread but more time to read. Plane rides are made so much better by Kindle. I got through Heinlein's Starman Jones and Changeling's Island by Dave Freer while bouncing around different airports.

And I'm on a Heyer kick. Hell of a genre shift, right? But they're wonderful books- funny and light and you know the good guys are going to win. Sylvester is a great homage to Pride and Prejudice, which is one of my favorite books. Highly recommended.

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 09:26 AM (obZ4W)

46 Ikea ... there is a certain appeal to their goods, although most of the furniture that is just veneer over pressed sawdust will not wear well, and is heavy as heck. The kitchenware which I have bought from them is pretty good quality - maybe a titch better than what is at Walmart. I believe Ikea's biggest appeal is to people who can only afford Walmart, but are social snobs and wouldn't be caught dead in the place.

As for gifts - I do believe firmly in giving books as gifts - to children. Yes, I am THAT aunt to my nieces and nephews; they get books for Christmas, and no whining about whatever toy of the season they would rather have. I have given copies of my own books which are suitable (Truckee's Trail and Lone Star Sons, mostly) books which I read as a kid and loved - The Borrowers, the Little House books, The Hobbit, etc. The nephew who is not advancing well as a reader has been getting those lovely illustrated books by Holling C. Holling. The oldest niece has graduated to vintage historical novels.

When my daughter was small, she had a volume of nursery rhymes "B.B. Blacksheep & Company" - with illustrations by Nick Butterworth. I think I got it via an English catalog; it was an utterly charming book. Later I found a stack of copies at a discount place, and bought eight or ten copies, to give as birthday presents - that's the only book I have consistently given as presents.

We have released the fifth Luna City chronicle this week - and for the remainder of the month, the first Luna City book (The Chronicles of Luna City) is available on Kindle for .99. Can I beg of everyone who has read the Luna City books and enjoyed them for a review? Rack up so many reviews on Amazon, and Amazon does make books with many reviews more visible to the public.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 19, 2017 09:27 AM (xnmPy)

47 >>Libraries should have comfy chairs and smell like oldness.

I'm half way there.

Posted by: Hillary at November 19, 2017 09:29 AM (2cuLk)

48 Architectural Graphic Standards

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at November 19, 2017 09:29 AM (lKEuo)

49 And, on topic, I really like dead tree reference books, unless I'm searching for one tiny little detail, like the year that King Whatshisname died or synonyms for 'hopeful'. The internet's useful for that, but for long stretches of reading to get the feel of a culture, nothing beats a normal book.

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 09:31 AM (obZ4W)

50
Those Stuttgart City bastards stole my design!!!

Posted by: M.C. Escher at November 19, 2017 09:31 AM (9q7Dl)

51 I also have the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" because I had a copy in high school and learned to use the log tables. The modern edition doesn't have log tables. You can't get printed log tables because every computer in the world will compute logarithms as you need them, assuming you have electricity.

I have also forgotten everything technical I had ever learned. Can't do anything with any of those books anymore.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse
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I hear you. My American Practical Navigator by Bowditch is full of log, trig, lat/long factor tables and celestial navigation calculations that are now available at a touch of a series of keys. The volumes just collect dust now.

God help a modern mariner if his batteries fail.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 19, 2017 09:32 AM (tr2D7)

52 Posted by: M.C. Escher


Hah! I was going to make an Escher joke and then I lost my train of thought and look squirrel and what were we talking about?

Oh, I think I was picturing Eris at the Korova Milk Bar.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (gIRsn)

53 Posted by: M.C. Escher at November 19, 2017 09:31 AM (9q7Dl)

it would be really cool in stone

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (hMwEB)

54 Yesterday I read through Scott Adams' "Win Bigly". It's about persuasion techniques and how the God Emperor has used them to win.

A very, very good book even if it does plunder his own blog for content. But who cares; he deserves the money anyway. And I've learnt a lot from it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (6FqZa)

55 yikes!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (gIRsn)

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 09:34 AM (ANIFC)

57

italicans everwhere

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:34 AM (hMwEB)

58 "the kama sutra is always a tasteful choice"

For young readers, who are just learning to enjoy the act of reading, there's always "HELTER SKELTER - The Manson Murders."

Posted by: Squeaky Fromme at November 19, 2017 09:35 AM (V2Yro)

59 I finished Dead Mans' Walk by Larry McMurty and am a third of the way
through Comanche Moon. Am I the only one that finds Augustus McCrae to
be thoroughly unlikable?
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I agree.

Posted by: Blue Duck, innocent aborigine minding my own business at November 19, 2017 09:36 AM (ylUqT)

60 Don't blame our Itali-cans!

Bander, really.

Which reminds me, I finished Kurlansky's "Cod" -- so, so good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:36 AM (qJtVm)

61 I believe that, in the barrel, italics are perfectly acceptable after Labor Day.

Posted by: Blue Duck, innocent aborigine minding my own business at November 19, 2017 09:37 AM (ylUqT)

62 Titan sit stand motorized desk frame $239
Lumber Liq. 3 6 Acacia Cutting board counter top $171
One of a kind Sit Stand desk Priceless

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 09:38 AM (BtQd4)

63 The book thread barrel is classier than the regular barrel.

The toilet graffiti is all spelled correctly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (gIRsn)

64 I peeped through Philip Jenkins' BarrelCrucible of Faith. Jenkins argues that Judaism changed a LOT during the crisis of Greek rule.

Seems to be something to read in parallel with James Kugel, The Great BarrelShift.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (6FqZa)

65 I have two hard-copy references, The Merk Index from 1945, which is basically a run down of the materia medica as known in 1945, recommended dosages and all the recognized diagnostic tests, and my beloved Taubers Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary.

Well, and Ezell's Handguns of the World, and Smith and Smith's Small Arms of the World.
Handguns of the World is one of the most fun reference books I have ever owned, although it focuses on center fire cartridge guns

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (2K6fY)

66 I tried to read Comanche Moon and Dead Man's Walk, and gave up - the mangling of historical facts about early Texas was just to much for me. And Mcrae was unlikable.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 19, 2017 09:40 AM (xnmPy)

67 Which reminds me, I finished Kurlansky's "Cod" -- so, so good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:36 AM (qJtVm)
I was debating whether or not to get that. 'Salt' was quite good- have you read it?Unfortunately, I got 'Salt' for research reasons. I don't really have that excuse if I want to read 'Cod'.

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 09:40 AM (obZ4W)

68 A parallel universe exists where everything is written in italics, all the time.

Posted by: Richard Feynman at November 19, 2017 09:41 AM (ylUqT)

69 gift books - y'all should consider giving copies of Thump: The First Bundred Days specially to kids of lefty relatives. LOL

I put it up on my blog recently

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:41 AM (hMwEB)

70 For those with herniatic tomes, I suggest a plinth.
It looks great next to your marble bust of Catullus and your crystal
decanter set in the hollow globe.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:25 AM (qJtVm)


So . . . Which is the plinth and which is they bust? And has he been on a bust for long?

(Channeling Mark Twain)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:42 AM (2K6fY)

71 Silly library humor skit:

http://tinyurl.com/ydgbdqdb

I purchased one of the $0.99 Sci-Fi Megapacks. They usually have a handful of stories I don't know about and it saves time searching for free copies of authors I don't typically read. Anyways, this one had a story that is far more recent.

Hillary Orbits Venus

I can't work up the courage to read it.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at November 19, 2017 09:42 AM (J70i0)

72 "68 A parallel universe exists where everything is written in italics, all the time."

So does the one where English is written right to left and Hebrew is written left to right.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 09:42 AM (V2Yro)

73 Morning, readers and writers. Thanks for the attention y'all gave my book release last week (The Mountain Throne, by A.M. Sterling). I got a spike in Kindle sales (16!) and a 5-star review out of it.

Posted by: Apostate at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (7d/38)

74 Oh, you should totally get "Cod".

It's one of the books I evangelize. Just so much fun and so many good factish nuggets.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (gIRsn)

75 If we could teach the zombies to farm brains, maybe they would separate and form their own country and leave us alone.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (/qEW2)

76 Hillary Orbits Venus

Gonna be hard for her to chill her chardonnay down there.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (6FqZa)

77 Horde Prayer List

(Updates, Corrections and Additions can be sent to the email in my nic.)

Rickl- Lung cancer.

Redc1c4- Employment

Fox2!- Bloodwork and colonoscopy

Abby- Father has passed. Children have ex-communicated.

Carol- Her Brother's eventual passing.

kbdabear- Mother's dementia.

Ladylibertarian- Father in hospice. Fell and broke nose.

CaliGirl- Mom's boyfriend Arthur has cancer.

Grump928(c)- Mother, Sally Jo, fell and broke her hip.

Hrothgar- Son killed in accident.

Ritabootoo- Someone who may have colon cancer.

Fenelon Spoke- Supervisor, "D's", Brother had a stroke and is in hospice. Husband's job search. Son acting out in a disturbing manner.

RedMindBlueState- Cousin Agnes, who's too weak for the heart surgery she needs, and whose condition is deteriorating rapidly.

Dr. Strangepork- Friend may have had a stroke.

Bebe's boobs destroy- In a fight over the house with her Sister.

Neil- Back

Jo Anne- Left leg.

Mindful webworker- Premature Grandchild.

Patty- Alcoholic husband.

ibguy- Sister's brain cancer, (gioblastoma).

pookysgirl- Husband's suicide attempt and mental health.

Jade Sea- Husband's cancer

tcn- husband's possible lung tumor and swollen lymph nodes.

Moron Pundit- Father-in-law's heart surgery.

junior- Employment

Duke Lowell- Son in need of healing.

Miley- Future employment, big move, Friend Melonie's cracked ribs. Mother's cellulitis of leg.

Captain Whitebread- Future employment. Mother needs stent; may not be well enough for it.

Jinx- Mother's passing.

Emmie- Relationship with Daughter.

Vic- Return of cancer.

ReneeTX- Terminal brain cancer.

Booknlass- Relationship with Daughter.

Just wondering- Sister, Lisa, has a brain tumor.

Christopher Taylor- Health and depression.

Lin-duh fell- Father-in-law has a gioblastoma.

Blacksheep- Stage 2 prostate cancer.

Weirddave and Gingy- Gingy's father passing away.

Alexthechick- Father's dementia.

Molly K- Neice killed by elderly driver.

Donna V- Bills to be paid and alcoholic Brother.

Gushka- Infection after being bitten by her horse. Her friends' mental health after returning from battle.

TonyPete- Friends' terminal diagnosis, Wife's, (Renee), terminal illness.

bergerbuilder- Multiple strokes, out of hospital at end of September.

Chi- Friend's passing, (Lewis), after battle with cancer.

huerfano- Father with DNR was revived by fellow bridge players and EMTs; Angry about it.

The Oort Cloud- Thalassemia, genetic blood disorder, complicated my hemolytic anemia. "Given" two years by doctor.

Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing- Job issues.

Hopped up on Something- Immediate Family member with cancer. Bone pain without opioids, Hospital Policy.

Publius- Rheumatoid arthritis, severe pain during flare-ups.

Cannibal Bob- Two brothers in law. 1. Brain tumor hospice soon.
2. Just diagnosed cancer around heart and in aorta. Biopsy taken. Stage 3.
3. Cousin just completed 5 rounds of chemo for cancer in abdomen. Reoccurance firm many years ago.

Insomniac- 1) That my autoimmune disorder will stay under control. 2) That the work situation I have will continue to come together and grow.

Oregon Muse- Shoulder replacement and recovery.

Slapweasel- Father's dementia and Mother's attitude.

Thank you for your continued prayers!
Bless you all

Posted by: Seattle at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (Ckg4U)

78 Tolle Lege
Having a problem and need advice.
The Kindle app on my Samsung galaxy crashed locking me out of the books on it. So looked it up on web and it said to erase it and start over but I have many books I don't want to lose. How do I get them back after I replace it?

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (aC6Sd)

79 *Takes off West Coast sock.*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (Ckg4U)

80 Good morning!

My favorite wedding gift is The Joy of Cooking.
I wrap it in a vintage apron.

At some point during the shower, or reception, I suggest that cooking together, or at least doing the dishes together, will really help keep their marriage healthy.

I don't know if it's worked. Haven't heard back. Just a theory.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (9mZIr)

81 American Practical Navigator by Bowditch

---

I wanted one of those. Never got a round toit.
I did have Chapman's Seamanship and Small Boat Handling which I read cover to cover. Lost in one of my many relocations.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (4XCge)

82 McMurtry's "Berrybender Narratives" series is awfully good, if you don't mind drugged out versions of historical fiction. Sin Killer is the first book in the series.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 19, 2017 09:45 AM (ylUqT)

83 I like the universe where the Arabs take over the eastern Roman Empire and make it a centre of world culture and literacy. And they base their capital at Palmyra.

Oh wait... that actually happened, under Odaenathus and Zenobia.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:45 AM (6FqZa)

84 Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:41 AM (hMwEB)

Is that the one with the bunny sporting a Golden Scalp Weasel?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:46 AM (rp9xB)

85 Here's a book for those interested: Paul Veyne, Palmyre, l'irremplaçable trésor. Recently translated as "Palmyra".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (6FqZa)

86 But on the positive, almost finished Master and Commander by Patrick O'Brien and picked up this week at the used book store a book I wanted for 30 years, Col John Elting's Swords Around the Thrown a account of Napoleon's guard.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (aC6Sd)

87 "My favorite wedding gift is The Joy of Cooking.
I wrap it in a vintage apron. "

That's a cool idea.

Posted by: Apostate at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (7d/38)

88 poo.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (6FqZa)

89 If I had to guess, I would say the Stuttgart library probably smells a lot better than the Main library here.

A lot better.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 09:49 AM (EZebt)

90 BTH, you got the accent agout through Pixie, that's impressive to start with.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:49 AM (2K6fY)

91 Since OM couldn't make it I found some crazy pants. Suitable for the book thread and the pet thread:

https://tinyurl.com/ycb4qxlt

Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2017 09:50 AM (UdKB7)

92 Currently working my way through Joseph Conrad's "Lord Jim," it's historical interesting but a tough slog to read

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 19, 2017 09:50 AM (2EYE1)

93 I like the universe where the Arabs take over the eastern Roman Empire
and make it a centre of world culture and literacy. And they base their
capital at Palmyra.
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What went wrong?

Posted by: Bernard Lewis at November 19, 2017 09:51 AM (ylUqT)

94 Please feel free to copy and paste The Prayer List to your Notepad or other storage area. If someone has missed it, you can re-post it.

I will make updates as they come in and post it every Sunday.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at November 19, 2017 09:51 AM (Ckg4U)

95 Having been active in writing during the 1990s about the changes the Internet and broadband would create (I created the notion of ebooks for my telecom students to bring to market in 1996), what puzzled me was where I would want my information? Did I want a physical copy, like a book or a disc, or would I want the information on a server somewhere that I could retrieve instantaneously? I use my Kindle for most of my reading, but it lacks significantly compared to flipping through the pages of a resource book. I wonder if the digital native kids will develop their own strategies for accessing information and never know the pleasures of discovering old passaged purely by chance and not by someone linking to them.

Posted by: IanDeal at November 19, 2017 09:51 AM (qcIL3)

96 Why thank you, Apostate!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:52 AM (9mZIr)

97 Has anyone heard from OM? Praying he is recovering

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 09:52 AM (aC6Sd)

98 But on the positive, almost finished Master and Commander by Patrick O'Brien
======================

You have the whole series ahead of you? What a lucky person you are!

Posted by: Bernard Lewis at November 19, 2017 09:52 AM (ylUqT)

99 I wore out my copy of Ass N TITTIES and have since replaced it with a hardbound copy of Ass N MISH.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 09:53 AM (bD2SM)

100 Reference works: Does my Powershell scripting book on my desk at work count?

Posted by: Blake at November 19, 2017 09:53 AM (WEBkv)

101 Machinerys Handbook and the CRC.

Posted by: jukin Former Republican at November 19, 2017 09:53 AM (jXRIR)

102 Since OM couldn't make it ...


Book thread, art thread, ape thread...I didn't even check to see if he's taken over the pet thread.

I have a vision of CBD's basement where all of the missing cobloggers are in potting soil with neon colored fluids running in and out of them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:53 AM (gIRsn)

103 "I like the universe where the Arabs take over the eastern Roman Empire and make it a centre of world culture and literacy. And they base their capital at Palmyra.

Oh wait... that actually happened, under Odaenathus and Zenobia."

Odaenathus lived in the 3rd century AD and was a Roman citizen. The earliest Arabic script in the world dates from the 6th century.

What the world knows now as "Arabs" are either actual Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula, or conquered native people who now, many centuries years later, speak Arabic.

Posted by: Apostate at November 19, 2017 09:54 AM (7d/38)

104 Interesting about Gus McCrae being portrayed so negatively by McMurtry in the prequels after being such a larger than life character in Lonesome Dove. McMurtry can be kind of a cocksucker so maybe it was his way of saying everybody's fucked up in a complex way.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2017 09:54 AM (y7DUB)

105 The toilet graffiti is all spelled correctly.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (gIRsn)

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They have a toilet in there, huh? Classy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 09:54 AM (EZebt)

106 Good Lord.

Maybe we should just establish a Moron Chantry.

Prayers for everybody.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 19, 2017 09:55 AM (3DZIZ)

107 'They have a toilet in there, huh? Classy.'

That's not a toilet.

Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2017 09:55 AM (UdKB7)

108 78
Tolle Lege

Having a problem and need advice.

The Kindle app on my Samsung galaxy crashed locking me out of the
books on it. So looked it up on web and it said to erase it and start
over but I have many books I don't want to lose. How do I get them back
after I replace it?

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (aC6Sd)

Once you get the Kindle App reloaded use the sync function to resync your books with amazon. You may have to click on each one to reload them after you synch. But you need to be logged into your wifi to do this. also you will have to rebuild all your "collections". I just had this happen to me and I think it was a bad update to the Kindle app.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

109 "The Joy of Cooking" is just a great cookbook esp. for those not in the know gastronomically speaking.

Though I think the latest iteration threw out some useful things,

the previous version I got in 1784 or some such is the superior book if you can find it at a used book store in good condition.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 09:56 AM (9q7Dl)

110 Thank you for posting the prayer list. I will add these to my prayers.

Posted by: April at November 19, 2017 09:58 AM (e8PP1)

111
I have a vision of CBD's basement where all of the missing cobloggers are in potting soil with neon colored fluids running in and out of them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:53 AM (gIRsn)



"It takes all kinds of critters to make CDB's fritters."

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 09:58 AM (9q7Dl)

112 The earliest Arabic script in the world dates from the 6th century.

According to Ahmad al-Jallad, "Safaitic" and "Hismaic" are Arabic, just with other scripts. The Palmyrenes used an Aramaic script to write Arabic.

The Nabataean script - originally designed for Aramaic - was being repurposed for Arabic already by then as well. The Classical Arabic script used for the Qur'an descends from Nabataean.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:59 AM (6FqZa)

113 naturalflake, I pored over my mom's copy of Joy as I grew up. Cooking game, the history of a recipe, table settings and general knowledge about ingredients, all in an extremely accessible voice.

my name's booknlass, and I'm a read-aholic.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:00 AM (9mZIr)

114
Hmm.

It also takes all kinds of critters to make CBD's fritters.


Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:00 AM (9q7Dl)

115 P.S.: As a public service announcement...

If you are lighting Vigil Lights in church, use only one for The Horde... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at November 19, 2017 10:00 AM (Ckg4U)

116 98 Oh no, Fortunes of War would be my next book, started with Post Captain and finished Desolation Island ( all on my Kindle which I can't get) Have no idea why I started with book 2 but found book 1 at the used book store. Also I dreaded the day I would lose my Kindle app, there are 3 reference books I much would rather have in paper.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:01 AM (aC6Sd)

117 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:01 AM (mpXpK)

118 But on the positive, almost finished Master and Commander by Patrick O'Brien
======================

You have the whole series ahead of you? What a lucky person you are!
Posted by: Bernard Lewis at November 19, 2017 09:52 AM (ylUqT)


I agree; I'm midway through The Hundred Days and will be sad when the series is over. It's an outstanding explication of the friendship of two people as unlikely as Gus McCrae and Woodrow Call.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2017 10:02 AM (y7DUB)

119 Here ya go:
openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/handle/1887/54231

Mostly the Palmyrenes used their script to write Aramaic but the locals used it for Arabic as well, in graffiti.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:02 AM (6FqZa)

120 Since there was aback and forth about Richard III on the movie thread last night I would like to recommend three books by Alison Weir;

Lancaster and York -- The War of the Roses

The Princes in the Tower

Elizabeth of York

They are all well researched and well written. Weir is very much in the Yorkist camp as far as the dynastic struggle, so her conclusions about Richard carry some weight.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 19, 2017 10:02 AM (3DZIZ)

121 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:01 AM (mpXpK)



So...when's the wedding?

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:03 AM (9q7Dl)

122 Also a list of books kept on the Kindle seems now to me to be important enough to keep on a paper log book. I am sure I couldn't tell anyone all the books on it.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:03 AM (aC6Sd)

123 Is that the one with the bunny sporting a Golden Scalp Weasel?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:46 AM (rp9xB)

Yup!

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 10:04 AM (hMwEB)

124 I mean, Nabataeans. Ugh. Need moar covfefe

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:05 AM (6FqZa)

125 A parallel universe exists where everything is written in italics, all the time.
Posted by: Richard Feynman

And Ace is thin, clean shaven and has a beautiful wife, never started this blog, and is a successful practicing lawyer. With a beautiful house, and a beautiful car.

How do I work this?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at November 19, 2017 10:05 AM (S6Pax)

126 >>>I finished Dead Mans' Walk by Larry McMurty and am a third of the way
through Comanche Moon. Am I the only one that finds Augustus McCrae to
be thoroughly unlikable?

Both he and Woodrow Call had their unlikeable aspects but they also had some strong redeeming qualities including loyalty and honor. I think McMurtry made them human by the flaws he assigned both of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 10:06 AM (/tuJf)

127 I have A Sea of Words on my Kindle app, looking to research something from it is how I found it not working.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:06 AM (aC6Sd)

128 Vic, I wouldn't suggest to you what to do, but you could charge her or him half of what it costs you. Found money!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:06 AM (9mZIr)

129 Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 10:04 AM (hMwEB)

I've seen some of the drawings on Twitter but hadn't realized there was a book.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 10:07 AM (rp9xB)

130 Posted by: IanDeal at November 19, 2017 09:51 AM (qcIL3)

For research it seems easier to flip around a hard-copy, especially if I have to use multiple books to get all my information. Multiple screens would work I suppose, but I don't have them.

I could copy and paste to another document, but that is like zeroxing things, you loose the option of reading past the area you selected and finding things you missed the first go 'round.

Harry Harrison wrote about e-books in the late 70's. It was one of the Stainless Steel Rat stories I think. When I found out about the e-pearl research by Sony in the 90's I waited for the new electronics to come out because I wanted one so badly.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 10:07 AM (2K6fY)

131 >>>neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party<<<

Does that come with a fifth of distilled spirits? Because I want in on that bargain.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 10:07 AM (bD2SM)

132 My son named his WiFi access point "FBI Surveillance Van #42". You could try something like that Vic.

Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2017 10:07 AM (UdKB7)

133 >>>> and has a beautiful wife.....With a beautiful house, and a beautiful car<<<<<

My God! What have I done?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 19, 2017 10:08 AM (3DZIZ)

134 117 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:01 AM (mpXpK)

But first...

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 10:08 AM (ANIFC)

135 117 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:01 AM (mpXpK)

===

So she can get deliveries?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 10:08 AM (EZebt)

136 Found this reference site on sailing ships
http://www.thepirateking.com/index.htm

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:08 AM (aC6Sd)

137 Has anyone heard from OM? Praying he is recovering
Posted by: Skip


He posted the movie thread last night. He must be feeling a little better.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at November 19, 2017 10:08 AM (S6Pax)

138 my name's booknlass, and I'm a read-aholic.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:00 AM (9mZIr)
We need a support group, if this thread doesn't already count as one.My name is right wing yankee, and I'm addicted to reading. And I don't want to quit

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 10:09 AM (obZ4W)

139 I am not crazy about the looks of the Stuttgart library. It reminds me too much of a 70's shopping mall.

However, modern public libraries can't be too ornate, I guess, especially now that you have hobos sleeping in them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V baby, it's cold outside at November 19, 2017 10:09 AM (P8951)

140 And Ace is thin, clean shaven and has a beautiful wife, never started this blog, and is a successful practicing lawyer. With a beautiful house, and a beautiful car.

Instead this blog provides value to hundreds or maybe hundreds of thousands of people a month.

I wonder if Ace is one of the Lamed Vav.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:09 AM (6FqZa)

141 If you are lighting Vigil Lights in church, use only one for The Horde... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel
---
Slap, that caused me to remember the sound of a quarter dropping into the coin box beneath the vigil candle rack. And the smell.

Nice memories.

Thanks for the list.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 19, 2017 10:09 AM (tr2D7)

142 Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2017 10:07 AM (UdKB7)

My kids named ours "Totally not FBI surveillance" but then it crashed a couple times and Eldest Kidlet didn't want to bother anymore.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (rp9xB)

143 I finished _The Lies of Locke Lamora_, a fun swashbuckling fantasy by Scott Lynch. Recommended. Now I'm working through DeFoe's journal of the Plague Year. I have a fascinating old scholarly edition from the 1890s, with tons of footnotes. Until I read this version, I didn't realize that the book is fiction: DeFoe was just a small child at the time of the Plague, whereas the narrator of the Journal is a grown man with a family. Pretty grim stuff, though.

Most amazing part: with half the houses in London empty and big bonfires lit at major street intersections, they somehow managed to not burn down the city . . . until the following year.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (v8NF5)

144 Make your SSID "Weinerquest" and no one will want to connect to it.

Posted by: freaked at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (UdKB7)

145 "The Palmyrenes used an Aramaic script to write Arabic."

That just isn't true, man. Semitic languages are not interchangeable, and cannot just be lumped together as "Arabic." Aramaic is not just "Arabic" with funny letters. It's closer to Hebrew than to Arabic.

"The Classical Arabic script used for the Qur'an descends from Nabataean."

English script is descended from Latin script. That doesn't make it Latin.

"Ahmad al-Jallad"

The Arabs have been involved in a multi-generational quest to discredit evidence of Jewish presence in ancient Israel and to invent evidence of their own. There is no way I would take such assertions at face value without independent corroboration.

Posted by: Apostate at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (7d/38)

146 Vic - Not in a hundred years

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (aC6Sd)

147 >>I agree; I'm midway through The Hundred Days and will be sad when the series is over. It's an outstanding explication of the friendship of two people as unlikely as Gus McCrae and Woodrow Call.

Also both very human characters because of their flaws but ultimately very good men. Both the Aubrey/Maturin and MacRae/Call series are among my favorites and I've read all of them multiple times. I never get bored because of the richness of the characters and the stories.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (/tuJf)

148 We need a support group, if this thread doesn't already count as one.My name is right wing yankee, and I'm addicted to reading. And I don't want to quit
Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 10:09 AM (obZ4W)
--
We're a support group in that we normalize the bibliophilia!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (qJtVm)

149 If you're looking for a book for yourself or a loved one for Christmas, you may want to give them mine. Shagging, Shooting and Death is now available in dead tree & Kindle versions. Very moron friendly, its a comic romp in Regency England. If Jane Austin & Charles Dickens had gotten really drunk & decided to write a novel together it might have been something like this. Mayhem and bad behavior in the English countryside. Also, with the dead tree version weighing in at 2.1 pounds it can also be used as a weapon. Jam the spine's corner into the throat of any marauder & that'll stop them.

Posted by: biblio at November 19, 2017 10:11 AM (mapAj)

150 right wing yankee, i think it does count as a support group! absolutely.

and now, I'd like to invite those of you who are Christian or curious to church because I love you. It starts in 12 minutes.

live video link:

https://tinyurl.com/y92yq6ns

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:16 AM (9mZIr)

151 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Late due to 7+ hours of upgrading to Mac OS 10.13.21 High Sierra.

Rural internet is not fast.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:16 AM (hyuyC)

152 Apostate, Ahmad al-Jallad cannot just be discredited because of his name. And he's never said one word about Israel. He concentrates on the history of the Arabic language and on the North Arabian dialects in general.

I know that I misstepped in saying that the Palmyrenes wrote Arabic with their script and I already apologised for that.

But that the SAME TIME as Palmyra's heyday, Arabic-speakers elsewhere were writing their language in their own scripts.

I did link to evidence for that - from someone whose name isn't Al-Jallad. MCA MacDonald has also done much work here. Ditto, Marijn van Putten.

One script was Safaitic. Another was Hismaic. A third - most like the Aramaic script - was Nabataean. The Nabataean script is what won out.

You can't just dismiss the Arabs before 600 AD as illiterate, because they weren't.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:16 AM (6FqZa)

153 "Hillary Orbits Venus"

Barack Orbits Uranus


Yeah, somehow I don't think it'd sell too well.

Posted by: John Gray at November 19, 2017 10:17 AM (CRLBR)

154 naturalflake, I pored over my mom's copy of Joy as I grew up. Cooking game, the history of a recipe, table settings and general knowledge about ingredients, all in an extremely accessible voice.

my name's booknlass, and I'm a read-aholic.
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:00 AM (9mZIr)


If you're a fan of older cookbooks and 50s-60s cooking in general, try to find one of Helen Corbett's cookbooks.

She used to be the chef at Neiman-Marcus when they had a restaurant at the downtown Dallas location.

Every single recipe in there is on target and yummy.

Sure you'll laugh at her "ethnic" cooking, but you know what?

Every one of them is larrupin' and rib-stickpin' regardless of cultural authenticity.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:18 AM (9q7Dl)

155 Agincourt sounds very interesting.

I've bought books for kids, but book buying for adults is as risky as buying clothes for them. You really have to know what they like to read. As I've gotten older, I've gotten more interested in history and non-fiction and less interested in contemporary fiction.

The best gifts I ever got from my dad were the books he got me when I was a teen. Every Christmas season, he asked me to write out of a list of books I wanted and he would get me all of them (in paperback.) He was a crusty old blue collar guy (who was a real softy under the gruff exterior) who didn't read much outside of the newspapers, but he liked having a bookworm daughter. I cherished his thoughtfulness then and it's one of my best memories of him. He didn't buy what he thought I should be reading, but what I wanted to read.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V baby, it's cold outside at November 19, 2017 10:19 AM (P8951)

156 >>>My son named his WiFi access point "FBI Surveillance Van #42".<<<

Thank goodness it isn't StingRay, because that might upset the peeps.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 10:20 AM (bD2SM)

157 I guess my comment went in the ether.

Reference books I still use regularly; Machinery Handbook and the CRC.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 19, 2017 10:20 AM (3BFzK)

158 Bumper stickers.

'Save the bibliophiles'

'Read a book- Support bibliophilia'

'Bibliophiles are people, too'

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 10:21 AM (obZ4W)

159 Nice THX1138 library.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2017 10:24 AM (aMlLZ)

160
We're a support group in that we normalize the bibliophilia!

The love of Bibles!

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:24 AM (Gguds)

161 Ooh ooh, just picked up two books from the mail from TIME-Life's WWII series, "China-Burma-India" and "Island Hopping".

See you all in a few days.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 10:24 AM (qJtVm)

162 The Stuttgart Library is the library equivalent of efficient German sex.

Posted by: DRH at November 19, 2017 10:25 AM (V2CIU)

163 Also both very human characters because of their flaws but ultimately very good men. Both the Aubrey/Maturin and MacRae/Call series are among my favorites and I've read all of them multiple times. I never get bored because of the richness of the characters and the stories.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 10:10 AM (/tuJf)


One vignette that pointed out the complexities of the characters was when Maturin was staying at Jack's place and woke up late at night to hear Jack improvising on his violin in another building and marveling at his ability to express deep and complex emotions which go way beyond technical prowess.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2017 10:25 AM (y7DUB)

164
And Ace is thin, clean shaven and has a beautiful wife,...

You may ask yourself...How did I get here?

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:25 AM (Gguds)

165 Just before the Pastor begins, I wanted to mention the opening of The Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.

Heartening! There's a germ of revival in the air.
God (please) heal our land.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:26 AM (9mZIr)

166
Ooh ooh, just picked up two books from the mail from TIME-Life's WWII series, "China-Burma-India" and "Island Hopping".

Leatherette-blund?

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:26 AM (Gguds)

167 She came over here to write her resume because she couldn't sign on to my WiFi for some reason and was going to write it up on my spare {old} computer. Then decided she would wait until tomorrow.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:26 AM (mpXpK)

168 The Stuttgart Library is the library equivalent of efficient German sex.

Posted by: DRH at November 19, 2017 10:25 AM (V2CIU)



You're in, out, and then attack Poland.


Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:27 AM (9q7Dl)

169
blund?

BLUND??

I did NOT type "blund!"

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:27 AM (Gguds)

170 >>One vignette that pointed out the complexities of the characters was when Maturin was staying at Jack's place and woke up late at night to hear Jack improvising on his violin in another building and marveling at his ability to express deep and complex emotions which go way beyond technical prowess

And the recurring scene of Maturin and Aubrey putting aside the conflicts of the moment to play their duets. No matter what divided them they always found harmony together at the end.

Great series.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 10:28 AM (/tuJf)

171 Leatherette-blund?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:26 AM (Gguds)
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Leatherette Blonde sounds like a Lou Reed album.

No, they're the hardbound editions with photo covers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 10:28 AM (qJtVm)

172 As of this week I'm in Book Blackout. Dr. Mrs. T. insists that I not buy any books for myself in the run-up to Christmas. So I'm going to be doing a lot of re-reading old favorites instead.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 10:29 AM (v8NF5)

173 You're in, out, and then attack Poland.


Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:27 AM (9q7Dl)
---
Embrace der power of "und".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 10:29 AM (qJtVm)

174 On the Lonesome Dove book after I watched the mini-series I got the book because most of the time the book is always better than the movie. I did not like the book. This was one of those rare times when the movie was better than the book. The book was just too dark for my tastes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:30 AM (mpXpK)

175 Oh, you should totally get "Cod".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (gIRsn)

That's his best book I think....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 10:32 AM (wYseH)

176 Having read "Shagging, Shooting, and Death" by Andrea Grennan, I give it a hearty thumbs up! Although not quite where my reading tastes lie, I found it to be a fun and intriguing romp in the English countryside. And, shes right. The dead tree version will keep the marauders at bay, if the glock is out of reach........
And with Christmas approaching, it would be an excellent addition to any moron or 'ette's bookshelf.

Posted by: Misguided Sailorguy at November 19, 2017 10:37 AM (Q5R7z)

177 @162: "The Stuttgart Library is the library equivalent of efficient German sex."

I know nothing about German architecture, but I'd wager the bus tour of major Neoclassical landmarks in German lasts fifteen minutes, and mostly features craters of where the old Reich buildings once stood.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:37 AM (I/iGu)

178
I'm a big huge fan of the 80's BBC serial Lovejoy, starring a swarthy Ian McShane. I watch all he episodes repeatedly.

"Lovejoy" is based on novels by "Jonathan Gash" (John Grant), but I had NEVER thought of reading these books. (Why would I??)

Sidenote: Phyllis Logan is positively adorable in the first year of this series. And then it all just goes downhill for her. Eventually she ends up looking like that thing she played on Downtown Abby.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:38 AM (Gguds)

179
Oh, so my question is: Are those Lovejoy novels any good, or as good as the TV show?

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:38 AM (Gguds)

180 Leatherette Blonde sounds like a Lou Reed album.

That totally works as a Lou Reed album.

I went straight to David Johansen:

"It's just like all of your leathers, darling
They don't scare me, I know it's really only leatherette"

https://youtu.be/Otrt0iH9ubw

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 10:40 AM (gIRsn)

181 You're in, out, and then attack Poland. 
Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:27 AM
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Embrace der power of "und".Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 10:29 AM 

Pannzer Vor!

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:40 AM (aC6Sd)

182
remember PLEATHER?

Did the shits at GM invent this abomination?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 10:41 AM (Gguds)

183 2 years training a browser library and they pull the rug out from under me.
Bastards

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 10:41 AM (aC6Sd)

184 I gave A Big Little Life by Dean Koontz to both my sisters.It's not a typical Koontz horror novel; it is the story of his family's relationship with their dog. In response, my older sister told me the story of her massage therapist's dog. My sister has a bad back and requires frequent back massages. When she lies face down on fhe table, the dog comes and offers his paw to hold during the message.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 10:42 AM (Nwg0u)

185 Just finishing up Pierre Manent's Democracy Without Nations. SPOILER: C'est impossible!
The book is profound and blissfully short.
Highly recommended.

For some reason the Frogs seem to be producing the best conservative philosophers these days ---Manent, Besancon, Delsol, et al. Maybe I'm drawn to them because they deal in ideas entirely separated from electoral politics. Or maybe it's just nice to know that there are members of the Euro-elite who don't want to go on the cart.

In any case, ISI books has a whole bunch of these contemporary Froggy works in translation. And as long as you remember that "liberalism" means "classical liberalism" and "individualism" means "egocentrism/narcissism," the stuff translates into clear English. We're not dealing with Germans here!






Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 10:42 AM (0jtPF)

186 I'm a big David Johanson fan. Saw a recent show. Invited a friend, only to find out that Johanson is married to his cousin.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 10:44 AM (pV/54)

187 "I'm a big huge fan of the 80's BBC serial Lovejoy, starring a swarthy Ian McShane. I watch all he episodes repeatedly. "

He's pretty much great in everything he's in. Especially loved him as the very dangerous gang boss in "Sexy Beast". I do remember anxiously anticipating "Lovejoy" every week also.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 10:44 AM (jm1YL)

188
remember PLEATHER?

Did the shits at GM invent this abomination?


My mother is 86 & has taken to wearing snakeskin leather pants. In public. The rest if us stand there mortified.

Posted by: voracioysly deploable at November 19, 2017 10:44 AM (mapAj)

189 The photo above leaves me cold. Not a comfy or inviting atmosphere at all.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 10:44 AM (jm1YL)

190
Back in the 90's, the cable channel A&E was quite good -- nothing at all like the crap it is today (if it even exists, I dunno).

On Monday nights they used to air a "mystery" lineup which included Lovejoy, Sherlock Holmes (Jeremy Britt), others I cannot remember.

Really great television. To this day, 25+ years later, I still watch these episodes and love them. Probably would not even know about them if it wasn't for an A&E.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 10:45 AM (Gguds)

191 "My mother is 86 & has taken to wearing snakeskin leather pants. In public. The rest if us stand there mortified. "

That's classic. Your mom must be a real character.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 10:46 AM (jm1YL)

192 I'm usually with Vic: I mostly give Amazon gift cards for books they really want. In the past, however, I've given books I love to people I love: "The Sunbird" by Wilbur Smith; "Lucifer's Hammer" by Pournelle Niven; "Rumpole of the Bailey" by John Mortimer; "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" by Betty Smith; "The Crystal Cave Trilogy" by Mary Stewart; "Shogun" by James Clavell. I do love me a good storyteller.
This year, I did buy my youngest son a signed copy of a book by Larry Czonka, the running back for the legendary Miami Dolphins team back in the early 70s. We lived in South Florida back then, and my kid is still a big Dolphins fan (I know, I know. Sad...).

Posted by: Bookaday at November 19, 2017 10:46 AM (2qDS0)

193
It must take A LOT of snakes to make pants!

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 10:47 AM (Gguds)

194 "On Monday nights they used to air a "mystery" lineup which included Lovejoy, Sherlock Holmes (Jeremy Britt), others I cannot remember. "

Ah..Jeremy Britt. The ultimate Sherlock. Nobody has done it better. He is much missed.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 10:48 AM (jm1YL)

195
What, no love for Al Franken's favorite work, Tongue and Titties?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 10:49 AM (pNxlR)

196 It must take A LOT of snakes to make pants!

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 10:47 AM (Gguds)



Not if you use trouser snakes.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 10:49 AM (9q7Dl)

197 None of us can bring ourselves to tell her what "Hard Candy" means. She has a sweater with it blazed across her chest. She thinks it means butterscotches or peppermints. She's not paired it with the PLEATHER pants.

Yet.

And yes, a real character. Except in a book no one would believe it.

Posted by: voracioysly deploable at November 19, 2017 10:49 AM (mapAj)

198 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 10:01 AM (mpXpK)


I've never been a fan of the Dear Abby/Ann Landers/Dr. Laura schtick but years ago I heard or read something from one of them that made a lot of sense and has stuck to me. "Noone can take advantage of you without your permission."

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 19, 2017 10:50 AM (7oUUT)

199 The number of pleathers it takes to make a pair of pants like that would be a crime against nature if they were natural.

Posted by: voracioysly deploable at November 19, 2017 10:51 AM (mapAj)

200 Finished Brandon Sanderson's most recent doorstop novel the other day. Good finish, as always, though parts of the middle were quite dark and depressing.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:52 AM (cSguU)

201 My mother is 86 & has taken to wearing snakeskin leather pants. In public. The rest if us stand there mortified.


Posted by: voracioysly deploable at November 19, 2017 10:44 AM (mapAj)

Have her wear a guns-n-roses T shirt and she'll blend right in.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 19, 2017 10:52 AM (aMlLZ)

202 Ah..Jeremy Britt. The ultimate Sherlock. Nobody has done it better. He is much missed.
Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 10:48 AM (jm1YL)

Have the entire DVD series. Yes, Britt is what I expected Holmes to be.

And, the guys who played Dr. Watson are excellent, also.

Unlike the the guy who played the bumbling idiot from the Basil Rathbone school of Holmes.

Posted by: Blake at November 19, 2017 10:53 AM (WEBkv)

203 Just finished Ghosts of Vesuvius, by Charles Pellegrino. Physics. Volcanoes. History. Extinction .

Posted by: Phildirt at November 19, 2017 10:55 AM (KK4kX)

204 You can make snakeskin pants with one snake, but it has to be a really big snake.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 10:55 AM (v8NF5)

205 huerfano- Father with DNR was revived by fellow bridge players and EMTs; Angry about it.


I guess I've never updated my dad's status after his unfortunate, according to him, resuscitation. He's over it and glad to be alive again. He's been in the hospital for a couple of weeks, one to stabilize him and one for physical therapy (swing bed) but he's feeling much better and should get out this week. He still grumbles, but mainly because his chest hurts from the CPR. As it turns out, his BP meds dropped his potassium and interrupted the electrical system of his heart and stopped it beating (no electrolytes, no electricity), but that's all fixed now, we hope. He should be home this week and back to bothering me. It's great news because the cat misses him.

Thank you for your prayers and good wishes.

Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2017 10:57 AM (Dp2K8)

206 I had a dream last night about writing an illustrated book called The Walking Dead Car Dealership. Or it might have been a song called The Walking Dead Car Dealership Blues.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 19, 2017 10:57 AM (/Dium)

207 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 10:42 AM (0jtPF)

I've noticed that while France is responsible for a lot of political stupidity, when they produce conservatives they are really good ones. The tradition of the lonely, smart frog conservative began, I guess with deTocqueville and Bastiat. Veronique DeRugy, now an American, is a libertarian who is good on economics. French-born Jacques Barzun was a cultural conservative (not necessarily a political one. He is best described as a pre-1968 Democrat.) You could spend the rest of your life reading his book recommendations in "From Dawn to Decadence." He recommended most of the post-1500 Western Canon, with a few surprises: he was a Dorothy Sayers and detective fiction fan.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V baby, it's cold outside at November 19, 2017 10:58 AM (P8951)

208 I finished 2015 Pulitzer Prize winning novel All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr this week. It is premised on a true life WWII unnecessary tragedy occurring when faulty intelligence caused the Allies to bomb and besiege the small town of Saint Malo on the Brittany coast. The novel concerns two children, one a blind French girl and the other an orphaned German boy, whose lives are ruined by the war and whose paths eventually cross during the bombing and siege. A theme seems to be the interconnectedness of life and how war is bad for children and other living things. It's an OK book but I'm not sure I understood all of it and I didn't find it great.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (Nwg0u)

209 Hi all.

I'm currently working on compiling some of my limericks from the last couple of years into a bathroom book- "Muldoon's Libary- A Limerick-A-Day Compundium: 2017"

With a little luck it will be available in time for Christmas gift giving (maybe mid-December). More likely Groundhog Day.

All proceeds to be donated to a charity yet to be determined. (Now accepting suggestions for a good charity). I'm thinking maybe Fisher House

Watch this space for more details.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (wPiJc)

210 I wish Hillary had terraformed Venus instead of going into politics.

Posted by: John Gray at November 19, 2017 11:01 AM (CRLBR)

211 201 My mother is 86 & has taken to wearing snakeskin leather pants. In public. The rest if us stand there mortified. "

She's at that "I'll do what I damn well please and I'm too old to care about what anybody else thinks" time of her life.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V baby, it's cold outside at November 19, 2017 11:01 AM (P8951)

212 About 15 years ago, the Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed., all 20 volumes, cost $900. Still only about $1000. The greatest dictionary in the history of the world, the 20 muses of so many poets, writers, thinkers . . . Each volume is about 8 pounds of weighty, beautiful wisdom. Center of not only the bookshelf, but the home. The ex wanted a couch, instead of the OED. She is superlatively stultified (vol. XVI). I cannot decide if I like best vol. VII or VIII. I really like L words, for some reason. M words are obviously lovable; e.g., mummsy.

Posted by: The Pink Panzer at November 19, 2017 11:02 AM (7jvT0)

213 www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5055263/A-loved-children-s-book-removed-gender-stereotypes.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 11:02 AM (aC6Sd)

214 Muldoon how wonderful!!!!

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:03 AM (hMwEB)

215 It must take A LOT of snakes to make pants!

Or just a few really big ones. That give me an idea. Pants in a coral snake color pattern. Red and yellow...

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 19, 2017 11:03 AM (7oUUT)

216 210 I wish Hillary had terraformed Venus instead of going into politics.

Posted by: John Gray at November 19, 2017 11:01 AM (CRLBR)



I think she's venusforming Earth given all the clouds of sulfurous gas she emits.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 11:03 AM (9q7Dl)

217 My exercise and walking companions as of late have been the audio versions of Georgette Heyer's novels. They are most entertaining. I can't understand why they have never been serialized for television. They are filled with the most delightful characters and would be many an English character actors' dream come true.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 11:03 AM (jm1YL)

218 Amazed Pixy let that through, it has examples of original and the new gender neutral version

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 11:04 AM (aC6Sd)

219 Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (wPiJc)

Yay! I know several people have encouraged you to compile your....poetry. Glad to see you are.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 11:04 AM (rp9xB)

220 When I read the book thread, I often think of, and miss, being able to stroll a few blocks to the Providence Athenaeum Library. A subscription library, it was founded in 1836. As a member, you could ask, say, to browse the Audobon elephant folio, and they'd let you do it! The Audobon is gone now, sold to replenish the endowment, but all is not lost, as they still have a copy of the baby elephant folio.

I haven't been back in years. I moved away and it remains one of the few things I miss from living in Providence.

Some great pix at this link. Note the actual wooden card catalog at the splash page. There for old times sake, as they are using those newfangled computer thingies now.

https://providenceathenaeum.org/

Posted by: chuckR at November 19, 2017 11:04 AM (9qifp)

221
I like the word "compendium."

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 11:04 AM (Gguds)

222 OMB head Mick Mulvaney doing a good job on Sunday programs defending Tax Bill.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 11:05 AM (pV/54)

223 Muldoon, will it be illustrated?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:05 AM (hMwEB)

224 Damn......how did CBD get a pic of my lieberry collection?

Still reading "We Were Soldiers Once and Young".

There is actual color film of the battle on youboob if your interested, no sound though.....Lt.Col.Moore had forgotten there was a camera crew about at the time.
Who wouldn't.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 11:05 AM (nUkMr)

225 The game is getting back over 3.0% GDP growth PER CAPITA.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 11:06 AM (pV/54)

226 Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 11:03 AM (jm1YL)

I heard a rumor, on the Ravelry Heyer board I think, that she had stipulated in her will that no movie or tv versions of her books be made because she didn't like what had benn done to others' works. She was apparently a perfectionist so I can see not wanting her works chopped by inexpert hands. It may be a bad choice for long-term knowledge of her works though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 11:08 AM (rp9xB)

227 It's an OK book but I'm not sure I understood all of it and I didn't find it great.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (Nwg0u)

The author just wrote an editorial in the NYT about how he didn't do enough in the 1990s to combat global warning, and how he feels terrible about it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 11:09 AM (wYseH)

228
Late and slightly off topic. WeirdDave asked for podcast recommendations (no politics, please) a day or so back. I highly recommend the The British History Podcast by Jamie Jeffers. Wide-ranging, conversational and thorough history of the inhabitants of the British Isles. Pop quizzes thrown in every now and then to see what you've retained in your noggin. Here's how thorough: he's only up to c. 900 AD and the number of episodes to get there is 260. There's a members-only feed available for a subscription fee which I keep telling myself I should get but I haven't overcome my inertia yet.

Highly, highly recommended.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 11:09 AM (pNxlR)

229 You can make snakeskin pants with one snake, but it has to be a really big snake.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 10:55 AM (v8NF5)


What if one already has a really big snake in one's pants?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 11:10 AM (Pz4pT)

230 Muldoon: Include some encomiastic (OED vol. V) limericks, too, e.g.,

All night in a smelly saloon,
I worked on (hic) metrical swoon.
MacCallan's and time,
can't make it rhyme.
Will I ever compete with Muldoon?

Posted by: The Pink Panzer at November 19, 2017 11:11 AM (7jvT0)

231 The reference book we use the most is J.E.A. Tyler's "The Complete Tolkien Companion." It has settled many arguments in our house (and by "settle," I mean proving that I'm right).

Posted by: pookysgirl at November 19, 2017 11:11 AM (XKZwp)

232 All proceeds to be donated to a charity yet to be determined. (Now accepting suggestions for a good charity). I'm thinking maybe Fisher House

Watch this space for more details.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (wPiJc)


The often maligned tractor seat ( I mean really - syphilis?) supply industry has been decimated by foreign competition. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 11:12 AM (ajiE5)

233 OT/Movie

Saw some people mention Sherlock.

Sherlock Holmes and the Pearl of Death is on the Movie Channel right now.

Basil Rathbone.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla is in double trouble bubble at November 19, 2017 11:12 AM (oScPm)

234 Reading a lot of art books specifically books on urban sketching and watercolor.

Reading, The Art of Urban Sketching and Tokyo on Foot.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2017 11:13 AM (Wtll+)

235 I thought Hard Candy was a make up brand.

I feel grossed out now.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:13 AM (hMwEB)

236 Who is banned? I didn't check the nic and then the, interesting and informative, comment disappeared.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 11:16 AM (rp9xB)

237
Watch this space for more details.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (wPiJc)


It is said a watched space never boils,
As Muldoon gathers the fruits of his toils.
Some say he writes trash;
Others think he's too brash.
But surprisingly many are fans of his moils.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 11:16 AM (pNxlR)

238 I like Ikea. The assemble-it- yourself aspect appeals to me. And I like cheap.

Remy goes to Ikea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhgaGbZ9IfE

Posted by: can we shop for household things? at November 19, 2017 11:17 AM (wpC7C)

239 All proceeds to be donated to a charity yet to be determined. (Now accepting suggestions for a good charity). I'm thinking maybe Fisher House

Watch this space for more details.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (wPiJc)


My thinking on such things, Fisher House is one of those charities that has lots of money already. They're a great idea, of course, so the backing is there, always.

I appreciated, when the hurricanes were doing their damage a few months ago, suggestions that were going to use money well. Samaritan's Purse was recommended to me, and I feel good about giving them money... but they are rather houndy about sending me emails and snail mailers. I would prefer less of both. A couple times a year is more than enough to remind me, and if I think it's worth it, I will send more at the appropriate time.

So... honestly, you could put it back in the ol AoSHQ Hobo Hunting Fund. That wouldn't be a bad choice.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 11:17 AM (Pz4pT)

240
229 You can make snakeskin pants with one snake, but it has to be a really big snake.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 10:55 AM (v8NF5)


You are referring to a snek, I believe.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 11:18 AM (pNxlR)

241 My 80+ year old mother wants to get a pole for her apartment. She's convinced that pole dancing is a vigorous and healthy activity.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 11:18 AM (bD2SM)

242 RIP Mel Tillis at 85. He was a great one.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

243 Okay, I lied.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (bD2SM)

244 Oops, left out the link.


http://tinyurl.com/y7a7lznh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

245 I just finished listening to the Hornblower books "on tape" on my kindle. They're quite good, even better than I remember on my last read, because the reader forces you to listen to every word and I tend to skim sometimes. However, the higher rank Hornblower gets, the less I enjoy the books, and Lord Hornblower is my least favorite of the series.

And yes, Jeremey Brett is the best holmes that has ever played the part. He's perfect. The Watsons are great as well, particularly Hardwick. The adaptations took some liberties with the stories, but mostly with the weaker, later ones and that worked out fine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (39g3+)

246 238 That's hilarious

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (hMwEB)

247 fritz it is not nice to lie about your mothers nature.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:20 AM (UbFuA)

248
201 My mother is 86 & has taken to wearing snakeskin leather pants. In public. The rest if us stand there mortified.
Posted by: voracioysly deploable at November 19, 2017 10:44 AM (mapAj)


Your mother has a wickedly funny sense of payback!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 11:20 AM (pNxlR)

249 huerfano, so glad your dad is headed home!

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:21 AM (hMwEB)

250 >>>>Muldoon: Include some encomiastic (OED vol. V) limerick<<<<<

You can do metaphysics, too;

There once was a man who said, "God,
must find it exceedingly odd,
that this little tree,
continues to be,
when there is no one about in the Quad."

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at November 19, 2017 11:22 AM (3DZIZ)

251 I began reading Tomb of the Panzerwaffe by Aleksei Isaev and Maksim Kolomiets this week. It is about the crushing defeat of the Sixth Panzer Army by the Red Army in late winter 1945 as the Germans attempted to relieve besieged Budapest. Although I had heard in passing of the fighting around Lake Balaton, I had no idea of its significance. Hitler transferred and lost 900 Panzers from the defense of Poland and East Prussia for this operation leaving the road to Berlin open. Sorry, John Kay, but this is true heavy metal thunder. Both sides armor were at peak design for brutal war. (While the Germans deployed Tiger IIs and other such
brutes during the Battle of the Bulge a few weeks earlier, the Americans had few tanks more fearsome than the M4 Sherman medium tank.) This clash of metal monsters was the super heavy weight bout for the world.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:22 AM (Nwg0u)

252
236 Who is banned?


There's been a reading of the banns? Looks like "Marryin' Ace's" primary business is looking up! Are there no boats the God Emperor Trump cannot refloat?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 11:23 AM (pNxlR)

253 207
.....I've noticed that while France is responsible for a lot of political stupidity, when they produce conservatives they are really good ones......
Posted by: Donna&&&&V baby, it's cold outside at November 19, 2017 10:58 AM (P8951)
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INDEED.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 11:23 AM (0jtPF)

254 You can't do a statically-scored tax bill without having some losers.

I've heard a lot about hypothetical losers, but no good analysis about what the tax bill will really do/

Expect that people with no kids living in Manhattan won't do so well, with elimination of state tax deductions.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 11:24 AM (pV/54)

255 I recently read a sort of medieval "shared world" book called The Tainted Relic. Its a series of short stories about a cursed relic and what happens to it over the years by Micahel Jecks, Susanna Gregory, Bernard Knight, Phllip Gooden, Simon Beaufort, and Jan Morson.

Some of them are better writers (Gooden, Jecks, Beaufort) but overall its interesting enough. I was hoping to get a feel for the authors, because I'm always looking for more, but the short story format didn't give me much to work with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 11:25 AM (39g3+)

256 I knew I was going to be screwed by tablet/ or Kindle app someday.
Probably signed up with old email account, can't get sign in so can't change account info.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 11:26 AM (aC6Sd)

257 i think i mentioned before the last move i made i threw out all my books except 2 appx 80 lb boxes, all my texted all everything
i kept ayn rands, tolstoys ,solzhenitzins and all religious texts. . I just became so burned out lugging everything during moves.

now i wish i hadn't , in fairness i threw out soo many things in the last move i wish i hadn't, yet as i'm actually on board with the next Hopeful move, (hopefully last) maybe i did the right thing.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:26 AM (UbFuA)

258 also this library isn't very welcoming aesthetically. imho

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:28 AM (UbFuA)

259 All proceeds to be donated to a charity yet to be determined. (Now accepting suggestions for a good charity). I'm thinking maybe Fisher House

Watch this space for more details.
Posted by: Muldoon
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Might I suggest the *Tonypete Home for Unwed Mothers*?

Just an idea.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 19, 2017 11:29 AM (tr2D7)

260 Last week I mentioned the feel and the weight and the effortless browsing capacity of a printed and bound dictionary being an integral part of the experience.

I hope that includes the Super Dictionary, because you need that to find out how many cakes Lex Luthor stole.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 19, 2017 11:29 AM (l9m7l)

261 It's an OK book but I'm not sure I understood all of it and I didn't find it great.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (Nwg0u)

The author just wrote an editorial in the NYT about how he didn't do enough in the 1990s to combat global warning, and how he feels terrible about it.

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There is a plot element McGuffin about a cursed diamond that is supposed to endow the possessor with eternal life but which fails to keep its promise. I suspect that is a symbol for religion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:29 AM (Nwg0u)

262 also this library isn't very welcoming aesthetically. imho

Ve hav vays of makink you read

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 11:30 AM (39g3+)

263 christopher, sure but where is a place to comfortable sit?

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:31 AM (UbFuA)

264 hi willow!

when i moved from Illinois out to New Mexico to try and 'recover' from being divorced, I left about 1000 books behind. My ex didn't want them, but I didn't want to take them, either.

fast forward 7 years: that house where we lived is still intact, but empty; the ex has moved to the second house on the farm and I can go pack up those books and bring them (and some of my bookcases) to this little house in town where I now live. I've come back to Illinois, and to my books. and family. and 'grown' kids. . .

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:31 AM (9mZIr)

265 I love old reference books but have had to restrain my collecting habits.

One thing that I really do enjoy is Google Books. They have an initiative where they scan public domain volumes in libraries around the world and post them online. I download them to my tablet. I'm gradually browsing through a huge volume called "The Book Of Days", a historical almanac of sorts. Also a couple cookery books, and fascinating volumes of Popular Science from the WW1 era.

Posted by: GalosGann at November 19, 2017 11:31 AM (YU68N)

266 this library makes a statement,' pick a book and leave!'

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:31 AM (UbFuA)

267 BTW the library looks a lot like the inside of the Loeb Library at NYU. There used to be a problem there back when getting into med school was all that made life worth living and hence getting a 'B' in Organic Chemistry seemed best remedied by taking a header off the upper stacks . Happened more than once as I recall.

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at November 19, 2017 11:32 AM (YrDFq)

268 Skip, when you sign into amazon can you see your kindle books and kindle app?
It should be under Manage My Content and Devices

If you can then go ahead and delete the app from your phone/tablet and install a new version.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:32 AM (hMwEB)

269 Does anyone remember Edward Petherbridge's Lord Peter Whimsey? I remember liking it a lot when I was in Jr high school.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:33 AM (2K6fY)

270 RIP Mel Tillis at 85. He was a great one.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

Damn....he was a good-un.

Even if he was just a Coca-Cola Cowboy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 11:33 AM (nUkMr)

271 243 Okay, I lied.
Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 11:19 AM (bD2SM)

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she's not that old?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 11:34 AM (vChNs)

272 aw booknlass, that is a nice ending .

yeah i donated mine to book stores and such, still.. even if i end up owning a shed by water, all the walls would be for books , my mums antique dishes and servers etc. and childrens pottery and drawings.

it would be filled with only things that matter. so sick of just stuff.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:34 AM (UbFuA)

273 I like to give "Gates of Fire: The Battle of Thermopylae"
It's incredibly entertaining and full of macho-manliness that would leave a typical millennial stunned, triggered and crawling into its safe-space. "For Sparta!!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2017 11:35 AM (ty7RM)

274 >>>
i think i mentioned before the last move i made i threw out all my books except 2 appx 80 lb boxes<<<

I have given away, donated, abandoned, and yes, "thrown away" thousands of books over the years. It sucks, and I wish I had a shelving guy who would have taken care of these things for me, but no such luck. I would have had a massive library if I had never left "home" 29 10 years ago.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 11:35 AM (bD2SM)

275 Skip if you ever side-loaded books into your kindle app (copied them in manually via the OS) those will be lost

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:36 AM (hMwEB)

276 Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:33 AM (2K6fY)

Lord Peter Whimsey is a Dorothy Sayers character. Did Petherbridge continue the series after her death?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 11:36 AM (rp9xB)

277 The photo above leaves me cold. Not a comfy or inviting atmosphere at all.

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Worst. Escher. Ever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:37 AM (Nwg0u)

278 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Chuck C at November 19, 2017 11:37 AM (0V2ki)

279 Fritz, jjust start building shelving, every wall so many lovely books ! also good on electric bills

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:37 AM (UbFuA)

280 you make an endearing picture in my mind: I picture a warm cabin, with only shelves floor to ceiling, (and windows)---insulated by the books and art and pottery (by our children, I have those odd pots and statues, too).

that's what I want too. but no more movings, I think. I'll just make this place do.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:38 AM (9mZIr)

281 Random notes:

WiFi nodes - Mine is called "Diogenes Club".

Holmes - err, that's "Brett", not "Britt". Although Brett was a Brit.

OED - I have a hardcopy of the "Compact" Edition. All 30 pounds of it...

Sailing books - I loaned my copy of Chapman to a friend and it never came home. Found a replacement at Half-Price Books.

General - My 1-bedroom apartment has five walls in two rooms that are not pierced by windows or doors. All are covered in bookshelves. Then there's the 1.36Tb drive named "E-Books"; 549Gb free...

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2017 11:38 AM (HBMMh)

282 when i moved from Illinois out to New Mexico to try and 'recover' from being divorced, I left about 1000 books behind. My ex didn't want them, but I didn't want to take them, either.

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someday i'd like to see a thread dedicated to divorce stories. It seems like that could be a source of wisdom and ideas

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 11:38 AM (vChNs)

283 i consider shelving insulation plus some.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:38 AM (UbFuA)

284 Trying to draw out the last 10% or so of Sanderson's newest installment in the Stormlight Archive.


Never enough Wit.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2017 11:38 AM (LH6EW)

285 buzzsaw, ugh, so many of us have them and they aren't uplifting. so i don't see the point except to cause pain and anguish.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:39 AM (UbFuA)

286 So now it's your turn. What books do you love to give as gifts?


==
"How to Win Friends and Influence People", Dale Carnegie.

There is fun paragraph in the section : How to win People to your way of Thinking. It relates an incident when a young Ben Franklin was rebuked by a Quaker , something about opinions having a slap in them from anyone who differed with him. So, good old Ben remembered that rebuke for life and, denying himself pleasure of abruptly rebuking the person, began observing that in some cases that person's opinion would ,could be right. He found his conversations evolved to become more pleasant. Isn't that interesting ? There is a good lesson there for us all, no?

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (QC/4S)

287 someday i'd like to see a thread dedicated to divorce stories

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Iirc the ONT turns into one every couple of weeks

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (hMwEB)

288 My 80+ year old mother wants to get a pole for her
apartment. She's convinced that pole dancing is a vigorous and healthy
activity.
Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 11:18 AM (bD2SM)


Well, everyone likes a polka I suppose.


Posted by: Wladyslaw Wojtyla at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (2K6fY)

289 booknlass may our dreams be sure and straight

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (UbFuA)

290 neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.

Haha: When I view wireless connections from my home office, one of my neighbors has named their network "FBI Surveillance Van." At least, I *think* it's my neighbor...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (ty7RM)

291 One of my 'keep it handy, just to read a bit' is Foote's Civil War/ we all know how it ends ,but the little fights the Pea Ridge and Yellow Tavern bits are just the thing to wile away an hour or two.And as they say it's a pleasure to read.

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (YrDFq)

292 My 80+ year old mother wants to get a pole for her
apartment. She's convinced that pole dancing is a vigorous and healthy
activity.

Make sure she has someone who knows what their doing install it. The interwebs are full of videos of pole dancers taking major headers when their pole collapses.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 19, 2017 11:42 AM (ty7RM)

293 289

straight as our backs when we pick up boxes of books.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:43 AM (9mZIr)

294 i'm so old, i never imagined stripper poles would be a cool thing.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:44 AM (UbFuA)

295 291 One of my 'keep it handy, just to read a bit' is Foote's Civil War/ we all know how it ends ,but the little fights the Pea Ridge and Yellow Tavern bits are just the thing to wile away an hour or two.And as they say it's a pleasure to read.
Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (YrDFq)

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I've got the audio version. Someday i'll have the big battles down in order. Of course many having dual names, like the war itself, slows the process down.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 11:44 AM (vChNs)

296 amen booknlass

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:44 AM (UbFuA)

297 back to church in a couple minutes. it's online and I invite anyone of you along: the live link:

https://tinyurl.com/y92yq6ns

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:45 AM (9mZIr)

298 Rothfuss - Anything in the Name of the Wind Series / World is a good gift.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2017 11:45 AM (LH6EW)

299 And the recurring scene of Maturin and Aubrey putting aside the conflicts of the moment to play their duets. No matter what divided them they always found harmony together at the end.

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There is an album of period cello violin duets to give you an idea of what their music sohnded like (if both were world class musicians).

http://amzn.to/2j7J4ar

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:45 AM (Nwg0u)

300 now i wish i hadn't , in fairness i threw out soo
many things in the last move i wish i hadn't, yet as i'm actually on
board with the next Hopeful move, (hopefully last) maybe i did the right
thing.
Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:26 AM (UbFuA)


Well, then you are like me and probably the rest of us. (I still haven't replaced An Enemy of the State by F. Paul Wilson, stupid moment of housecleaning)

But the positive side is, now you have the opportunity to buy them all again as you stumble across them in the used book stores. right?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:46 AM (2K6fY)

301 Well, everyone likes a polka I suppose.


Posted by: Wladyslaw Wojtyla at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (2K6fY)


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ahhh one
and ahhh two
and ahhh sixty-nine

Posted by: L Welk at November 19, 2017 11:46 AM (vChNs)

302 @284 Never enough Wit.
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That's why he's always the focus of the epilogue -i.e. The last thing you read.

:p

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 11:48 AM (cSguU)

303 someday i'd like to see a thread dedicated to divorce stories

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Iirc the ONT turns into one every couple of weeks
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 11:40 AM (hMwEB)

would it meet the "wisdom and ideas" requirement ?

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 11:49 AM (QC/4S)

304 179


Oh, so my question is: Are those Lovejoy novels any good, or as good as the TV show?

YES. The books are much better. I started reading Lovejoy a couple of years after Gash wrote the first book. Didn't know about the tv show until the early 90's when he was about halfway through writing.

IMHO, The characters are all tamed down for the shows. For instance, my favorite character Tinker is not much worse than your Uncle Bob that you only see at Thanksgiving. In the books, he's a stinky, snotty, smelly person that might not even be allowed in your downtown library.

Posted by: Still John at November 19, 2017 11:50 AM (khtqU)

305 >>neighbor from next door just called over and wants to sign onto my WiFi to get on the internet.

You don't expect me to surf kiddie porn on my own internet connection, do you?

Posted by: Vic's Neighbor at November 19, 2017 11:50 AM (2cuLk)

306 One shelf is half full of English reference, the best of which are The Elements of Style, the Gregg Reference Manual, and Fowler's Modern English Usage.

The second shelf is filled with religious books including 3 bibles: the USCCB's New American Bible, the Didache Bible, and King James Version because you can't read the Magnificat in plain English. It's just wrong. And one Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Still reading all the stuff I was reading before, which was two weeks ago and I really don't understand why you don't keep track of this: Gates of Fire, The Eyre Affair, The Smartest Guys in the Room. And I have added "The Secrets of the Rosary" by St. Louis de Montfort and "No Lesser Plea" by Robert Tanenbaum, which is first of a series and it amuses me on no end that the hero, whose last name is Karp, has it spelled "Carp" on the front cover, at least of the Kindle version.

Eventually it will be discovered that auto-correct is the worst thing that ever happened to the English language.

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 19, 2017 11:53 AM (Ygg2Y)

307 No all books are on Kindle app, passcode to Amazon is not what I think it is, probably will have to call up customer service eventually.
Doubt I ever will get a ebook again I am not prepared to lose.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 11:53 AM (aC6Sd)

308 Petherbridge was in a BBC series of the Whimsey detective novels. They were the first seriously period drama for the interwar period that I saw.

I do bet the set dressers, location scouts and costuming department had loads of fun.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:54 AM (2K6fY)

309 Sgt Mom - I enjoyed Luna City V and will place a review.

Books I have consistently given as gifts: Laurie Colwin's two cookbooks "Home Cooking" and "More Home Cooking." They are collections of essays she wrote for Gourmet Magazine. Wonderful writing; these books are great just to read. I have made a lot of her recipes and her cooking style has informed my own (I don't measure a lot when I cook these days. Baking is of course different.)

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 11:57 AM (LaT54)

310 Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grope, or what are boobeh's for?

Posted by: Al Browning at November 19, 2017 11:57 AM (CRLBR)

311 would it meet the "wisdom and ideas" requirement ?
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 11:49 AM (QC/4S)

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we need to get deeper than bitch wrecked my life. Other than violence, I wonder what the straw is that breaks the deal. or is it just attrition.

my SIL, dumped husband #1 and already had #2 lined up. But he lived on the other side of the country (himself divorced with custody of a child).

She moves out, within a year he's moved east and the wedding is about to happen. Been almost a decade now, i'd like to hear the tale of how they made that happen.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 11:58 AM (vChNs)

312 kindltot, at the least visit bookstores again even if not buying.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:58 AM (UbFuA)

313 runner, wisdom, not necessarily, aggrieved and vengeful , yes.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 11:58 AM (UbFuA)

314 Eventually it will be discovered that auto-correct is the worst thing that ever happened to the English language.


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Mac OS autocorrect, especially

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 11:59 AM (QC/4S)

315 runner, wisdom, not necessarily, aggrieved and vengeful , yes.

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what about wisdom, willow ? sorry, not following

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:00 PM (QC/4S)

316 runner , wisdom?

the only gained wisdom might be too late, who we marry in the first place, incompatibility and different goals. They don't have to be evil yet many of our x's are. But really if you have children it's best to let go and move forward.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 12:01 PM (UbFuA)

317 tuna reminded me about Heyer -- IMHO she has been relegated to 'romance' authors and will never be evaluated properly. She also wrote very good mysteries (much better than Christie imo). Sometimes I think that 'romance' and 'young adult' have become toxic to any writer being taken seriously. SF has overcome most of that over the past 50 years that I have been following, but I think genres become a straitjacket.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 19, 2017 12:01 PM (MIKMs)

318
Eventually it will be discovered that auto-correct is the worst thing that ever happened to the English language.

Turn it off

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 12:01 PM (IqV8l)

319 Sorry Willow, I was unclear. I always cruise used bookstores. Some books I have bought and tossed three times. Leo Frankowski's Conrad Stargard series for example.
I can't figure out if I like the series or hate it.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 12:03 PM (2K6fY)

320 I finished 2015 Pulitzer Prize winning novel All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr this week. It is premised on a true life WWII unnecessary tragedy occurring when faulty intelligence caused the Allies to bomb and besiege the small town of Saint Malo on the Brittany coast. The novel concerns two children, one a blind French girl and the other an orphaned German boy, whose lives are ruined by the war and whose paths eventually cross during the bombing and siege. A theme seems to be the interconnectedness of life and how war is bad for children and other living things. It's an OK book but I'm not sure I understood all of it and I didn't find it great.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 10:59 AM (Nwg0u)


The plot of Doerr's 2014 book, at least the bombing part, sounds remarkably similar to Len Deighton's Bomber (1971), which is a good book and well worth reading.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 19, 2017 12:03 PM (2cg7P)

321 runner, not to be flip, It's hard to move forward yet for own own health , childrens health we have to.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 12:03 PM (UbFuA)

322 Hey, I am a super lurker, wanting to join in on the good reads group. Swearsies I will try to talk more and lurk less.

Posted by: PicklePete at November 19, 2017 12:04 PM (qgaFa)

323 Eventually it will be discovered that auto-correct is the worst thing that ever happened to the English language.
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Turn it off
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 12:01 PM (IqV8l)

A greedy, tuna tough!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 12:04 PM (Pz4pT)

324 kindltot, yeah regrets, but you are right it gives us a reason to go into bookstores and even find new books to adore.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 12:04 PM (UbFuA)

325 @77 - either the Horde is a lot more numerous than I thought, or it's an unlucky lot. Prayers to them all.

@302 - it is one of the harder things to do when writing is have a really good "wrapping up," be it epilogue or epitaph.

"Heretics of St. Possenti," my newest book to be published, was officially released on veterans day, and announced on Monday. It's fighting manfully to maintain a top-20 spot amidst the genre filled with chick-lit and faith-disguised romance (just look at the covers!). I realized that there are no good genre matches, and the closest one to it has precious few male readers, but my book is aimed squarely at men. Hmmmm.....

Anyway, it's a prequel to "The Stars Came Back," about the founding of the order of monks that are present in the book. Not so much space-opera as a look into how something something so improbable could come into existence in the real world.

Posted by: Rolf at November 19, 2017 12:04 PM (uVq6n)

326 we need to get deeper than bitch wrecked my life. Other than violence, I wonder what the straw is that breaks the deal. or is it just attrition.

my SIL, dumped husband #1 and already had #2 lined up. But he lived on the other side of the country (himself divorced with custody of a child).

She moves out, within a year he's moved east and the wedding is about to happen. Been almost a decade now, i'd like to hear the tale of how they made that happen.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 11:58 AM (vChNs)

I see. Not sure anyone would really, truly tell the truth. Who will go on the internets and admit to the world, that "yes, I f'cked up " , "Yes I cheated", "yes, I wanted someone else and lined up a better deal before my current deal found out"...10 years is not that long. 30, 40 years is long. irongrandpa (?) longevity, 50+ years I think.. that would impress me.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:06 PM (QC/4S)

327 And Ace is thin, clean shaven and has a beautiful wife, never started this blog, and is a successful practicing lawyer. With a beautiful house, and a beautiful car


And he has shelves, lots and lots of beautiful and sturdy shelves.

I hope all the horde's dreams/hopes come to reality.

Posted by: arieswoman at November 19, 2017 12:07 PM (fwWWI)

328 Not so much space-opera as a look into how something something so improbable could come into existence in the real world.

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just tell me it ends with a fat alien singing

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:07 PM (vChNs)

329 And now, a word from David Crosby:

David Crosby @thedavidcrosby
If you're a Trump dummy and you don't like progressives
Don't come to my show asshole

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

330 runner , wisdom?

the only gained wisdom might be too late, who we marry in the first place, incompatibility and different goals. They don't have to be evil yet many of our x's are. But really if you have children it's best to let go and move forward.
Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 12:01 PM (UbFuA)

oh, you are talking about relationships. I thought you commented on Dale Carnegie.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:08 PM (QC/4S)

331 I just noticed the wooden sword I had stabbed down into a stump in my backyard is gone.

Arthur II has come.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 12:08 PM (9mZIr)

332 www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5055263/A-loved-children-s-book-removed-gender-stereotypes.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 11:02 AM (aC6Sd)


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That is truly revolting. Not so much for the changes themselves, but *how* they were introduced. Conning parents into buying what they remembered as a classic, and using it as a vehicle for indoctrination, without giving parents *a choice* about the matter. At least they should slap a label on it saying "Edited by the Ministry of Truth".

But leftists are uncreative parasites. They can't create anything of lasting value. It's a variation of "Find a respectable institution, kill it, gut it, wear its carcass...", etc. I had Scarry's books as a kid, I really liked his distinctive style. I hope these assholes are sued by his estate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 12:08 PM (/qEW2)

333 327 And Ace is thin, clean shaven and has a beautiful wife, never started this blog, and is a successful practicing lawyer. With a beautiful house, and a beautiful car


And he has shelves, lots and lots of beautiful and sturdy shelves

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I was OK on the suspension of belief right until that last one.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:08 PM (vChNs)

334 For my trade I spent a couple years bouncing through volumes of the ASME Boiler and pressure code. It was infuriating how it was laid out to put you through every volume to get a single definitive answer.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (VDQek)

335 I'm okay with Ikea. As a bachelor/pauper with no permanent home, I seem to move every couple years, so it's nice to be able to have relatively simple furniture I can disassemble and pack into a smaller space. And I like "low price". And you can always decorate it with stuff, or repaint or refinish it, etc. The main thing wrong with Ikea is that Millenial hipsters embrace it.

I also like sparse decor because of ADD, OCD, hypersensivity, etc. Too much decor, or too much "stuff" in a room, drives me to distraction. Like that episode of Monk where there's a garbage strike and Monk can't think straight until they pull him into one of those clean-rooms where microchips are made.

But as for libraries, OTOH, yeah sparse and sterile is bad. Old, woodsy and smelly is good.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (EzdLW)

336 154 I have several of the Helen Corbett cookbooks and love them. Also great fun to read.

My TV just turned itself on again - this has happened 4-5 times over the years. At least it wasn't in the middle of the night this time. Any theories about why? (Assuming it's not haunted.)

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (LaT54)

337 >>David Crosby @thedavidcrosby
If you're a Trump dummy and you don't like progressives
Don't come to my show asshole



How's that renal failure treatin' you?

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2017 12:11 PM (LH6EW)

338 They don't have to be evil yet many of our x's are. But really if you have children it's best to let go and move forward.

I make jokes about the evil ex, but she's not at all.

I let her keep all of the stuff (house, money, etc.) because she thought she deserved it and I didn't want her hating me too actively because of the children. Good move because she's also been a good steward of it and I wouldn't have been and the kidlets got or are getting good college educations.

I even moved to Connecticut, bland boring godforsaken there's no reason to be here Connecticut, because she got a good job here and I wanted to be with the kids.

We did an every other night deal with the kids, one night at her house on at mine.

Here is where I thank a large percentage of males for being assholes. I got so much undeserved credit from women for staying involved with my boys post-divorce. It was like being thanked for waking up in the morning and not chopping off my right arm.

So many (non-Moron, of course) men are jerks that I reaped a ton of undeserved sex.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 12:11 PM (gIRsn)

339 322 Hi Pickle Pete! Welcome!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 12:11 PM (9mZIr)

340 Oh crap ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 12:11 PM (VDQek)

341 A couple of books were recently mentioned, and if anyone can remember their names, I'd appreciate it as the subject sounded interesting.
The subject was about civilization, etc before artificial light, and then the ways things changed once light extended waking hours.
Thanks!

Posted by: Mike in Jersey at November 19, 2017 12:12 PM (sjsue)

342 either the Horde is a lot more numerous than I thought, or it's an unlucky lot. Prayers to them all.

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Many of us are on the downhill side of old fart.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:12 PM (Nwg0u)

343 Just picked up Peter Kreeft's Handbook of Catholic Apologetics.

Kreeft is almost scientific in his structured and reasoned approach to the subject. I am needing to reconnect with my religious heritage a bit so this is a good start.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2017 12:13 PM (bz8LN)

344 My TV just turned itself on again - this has
happened 4-5 times over the years. At least it wasn't in the middle of
the night this time. Any theories about why? (Assuming it's not
haunted.)
Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (LaT54)


I could never tell if Videodrome was poorly edited or just insane.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 12:13 PM (2K6fY)

345 I see. Not sure anyone would really, truly tell the truth. Who will go on the internets and admit to the world, that "yes, I f'cked up " , "Yes I cheated", "yes, I wanted someone else and lined up a better deal before my current deal found out"...10 years is not that long. 30, 40 years is long. irongrandpa (?) longevity, 50+ years I think.. that would impress me.
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:06 PM (QC/4S)

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It's the kids that seem the hardest. I feel I should suffer anything to ensure that they are a mostly functional home life.

SIL had 2 kids of HS age when she split. I don't know how to tell them that story. Sometimes I think I don't want to know as I really like her and might prefer ignorance to knowledge.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:14 PM (vChNs)

346 And now, a word from David Crosby:

David Crosby @thedavidcrosby
If you're a Trump dummy and you don't like progressives
Don't come to my show asshole
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)


In other words, you want to control and suppress people who don't agree with you.

Like a dirty little fascist. Hiding in plain sight.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 12:14 PM (Pz4pT)

347
Ah, so Tinker isn't the lovable sweet drunk in the books as he is on the tv show.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:15 PM (Gguds)

348 The plot of Doerr's 2014 book, at least the bombing part, sounds remarkably similar to Len Deighton's Bomber (1971), which is a good book and well worth reading.

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Bomber is an excellent book.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:15 PM (Nwg0u)

349
who is David Crosby?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:15 PM (Gguds)

350 My TV just turned itself on again - this has happened 4-5 times over the years. At least it wasn't in the middle of the night this time. Any theories about why? (Assuming it's not haunted.)

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (LaT54)


Sorry about that.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 19, 2017 12:15 PM (2cg7P)

351 Agincourt is going on my wishlist, even though I once tried getting into Cornwell's Sharpe series but didn't like it. I really liked Wildtrack, though, and have been meaning to read his other two sailing books.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 12:16 PM (EzdLW)

352 How's that renal failure treatin' you?
Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2017 12:11 PM (LH6EW)


Be nice. He just thinks we should spend more times at real rock band concerts. Like Shonen Knife

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 12:16 PM (2K6fY)

353 I was going to recommend the British History podcast yesterday but was on the post too late. It's great fun.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 19, 2017 12:16 PM (Lqy/e)

354

nood guns

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:17 PM (Gguds)

355 either the Horde is a lot more numerous than I thought, or it's an unlucky lot. Prayers to them all.

The Horde is legion. And life has been kicking the shit out of a lot of us.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 12:18 PM (NWiLs)

356 who is David Crosby?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:15 PM (Gguds)

A fat old hippie still trying to be relevant.

Also, has used 1 liver up and is working on the 2nd.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 12:18 PM (nUkMr)

357 AAHHH....the heft and glory of a good dictionary can't be replaced. My son and I used to challenge each other with esoteric words .....and the dictionary was the ultimate arbiter of truth ~

Good days~

Posted by: bls46 at November 19, 2017 12:19 PM (soxpa)

358 Bander i am glad for you and your children you kept the children as the first Undamaged recipients of a failed marriage. It's very hard on the children, much so than us i believe. anyway that is my hope for those considering divorce, Perhaps you cannot live with your mate, but the children are voiceless pretty much. so consider How the divorce happens and the wreckage you might leave behind.

of course divorce is a goo option in many circumstances, . but try to remember it's not just you, if you have children.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 12:19 PM (UbFuA)

359 Hi Booknlass! Thanks!

Posted by: PicklePete at November 19, 2017 12:19 PM (qgaFa)

360 It's the kids that seem the hardest. I feel I should suffer anything to ensure that they are a mostly functional home life.

SIL had 2 kids of HS age when she split. I don't know how to tell them that story. Sometimes I think I don't want to know as I really like her and might prefer ignorance to knowledge.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:14 PM (vChNs)


that's a hard one. they will most likely figure out what happened when they grow up and be able to process that kind of stuff. their school, grades education should be the focus now I think.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:20 PM (QC/4S)

361 343 Just picked up Peter Kreeft's Handbook of Catholic Apologetics.

Kreeft is almost scientific in his structured and reasoned approach to the subject. I am needing to reconnect with my religious heritage a bit so this is a good start.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2017 12:13 PM (bz8LN)

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I argued that stuff online for a few years. You never change anyones mind, but you do get a better grounding in your own beliefs. For me faith is in the head (has to make sense) but for my wife it is in the heart. belief without knowing the whys and whatfores.

1Pet 3:15 But in your hearts revere Christ as LORD. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,


Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:21 PM (vChNs)

362 who is David Crosby?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:15 PM (Gguds)


No one knows, obviously.

What genuinely amuses me, is that the music business is full of shit. It really really is. There's stuff that was recorded decades ago, and it really have no business being popular when it was, but people are susceptible to having music programmed into our heads (hence the concept of ear worms). So the music industry figured out how to make stuff that was easiest to get into people's heads, and then figured out how to deliver it to the masses, saturate our culture with it...

And it's shit. Most everything that has been popular for the past 100 years is shit. I'm sorry, it just is.

We like it, not because it's good, but because that's how our brain works... it recognizes the familiar, and feels good about what it recognizes.

So we throw money at idiots like David Crosbarry, or Lady Gagme, or God only knows who else. Like programmed consumers. Because we are.

My personal opinion is that the music industry is exponentially worse at corrupting the culture than the movie/tv business. It's so much more insidious.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 12:21 PM (Pz4pT)

363 My TV just turned itself on again - this has
happened 4-5 times over the years. At least it wasn't in the middle of
the night this time. Any theories about why? (Assuming it's not
haunted.)
Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (LaT54)


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just checking to make sure you're OK

Posted by: Bob From NSA at November 19, 2017 12:22 PM (vChNs)

364 so i guess i will beat the rush and go check out what has died in the garden this week.

peace.

Posted by: willow at November 19, 2017 12:22 PM (UbFuA)

365 Ciao, willow

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:23 PM (QC/4S)

366 nood guns
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:17 PM (Gguds)


Figures. When I take time to write something that matters (to me, at least), that's when we all leave the room.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 12:24 PM (Pz4pT)

367 F*** David Crosby.

RIP, Mel Tillis.

David Cassidy might be the next to leave us. Organ failure, critical condition, TMZ is reporting.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 12:24 PM (EzdLW)

368 Going to name my WiFi "Bob From NSA" now...

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 12:26 PM (LaT54)

369 The T&A edition in the middle of the trio is WELL THUMBED!and i'm ambidexterous if that means the same as
"handy".

Posted by: saf at November 19, 2017 12:28 PM (cS/ge)

370 Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:54 AM (2K6fY)

D'oh, I hadn't realized you meant tv. I think those were on Netflix and seemed pretty good. I hadn't read the books in ten years at that point, and it's been about that long between watching and the rereading I'm doing now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 12:29 PM (rp9xB)

371 My TV just turned itself on again - this has
happened 4-5 times over the years. At least it wasn't in the middle of
the night this time. Any theories about why? (Assuming it's not
haunted.)
Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 12:09 PM (LaT54)


Frequency overlap of some device somewhere. I have a remote for my table lamp that changes my sound bar and vice versa. Turn the sound up or down and the lamp changes color. Change the intensity of the lamp and an HDMI setting changes.

Middle of the night? Hard to explain unless you have a common wall with someone with a very strong remote.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 12:32 PM (ajiE5)

372 Thanks for pointing out the Andrew Roberts, which I just bagged. WWII is such an unbelievably complicated topic, and I keep looking for a survey history that systematizes it.

Stuttgart may be quintessentially German, but it has certain virtues, two of which are that it's home to the Mercedes and Porsche museums. Meanwhile, it offers a good variety of Turkish street food, which is tasty and (unlike most things in Germany) not expensive.

Posted by: grayishpanther at November 19, 2017 12:32 PM (ty9Ew)

373
Having been active in writing during the 1990s about the changes the
Internet and broadband would create (I created the notion of ebooks for
my telecom students to bring to market in 1996), what puzzled me was
where I would want my information? Did I want a physical copy, like a
book or a disc, or would I want the information on a server somewhere
that I could retrieve instantaneously? I use my Kindle for most of my
reading, but it lacks significantly compared to flipping through the
pages of a resource book. I wonder if the digital native kids will
develop their own strategies for accessing information and never know
the pleasures of discovering old passaged purely by chance and not by
someone linking to them.

Posted by: IanDeal at November 19, 2017 09:51 AM (qcIL3)

I have never used an e-reader. It's dead-tree books or none at all. But I would welcome a utility that would transform e-reader files into pdf's, so I could store them on my local system. Not a fan of the Cloud, insofar as putting anything that I created or purchased there for storage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 12:33 PM (oPNmq)

374 My personal opinion is that the music industry is exponentially worse at corrupting the culture than the movie/tv business. It's so much more insidious.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 12:21 PM (Pz4pT)


This. Music industry is wayyyy worse than other segments of the entertainment industry. More effective at doing damage.

I hadn't left the room yet either, Burt.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 12:33 PM (EzdLW)

375 FTR, I am Team Oxford Comma.

Now back to my writing before OM bans me!

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 12:35 PM (GsAUU)

376 > Agincourt Historically accurate, easy to read, a rollicking good story, and the good guys win in the end.

Hmmm. And how were the French the bad guys in the 100 years war?

Posted by: ArthurK at November 19, 2017 12:36 PM (XMCS3)

377 Figures. When I take time to write something that matters (to me, at least), that's when we all leave the room.

I'm still here. Would it make you feel better if I stick around and disagree with you? Vociferously.

The music industry exploits the programming in our brains and makes us like stuff that we shouldn't like? Is that your premise?

The music industry gave me piles of vinyl that I'd sit with alone in my room, parsing out lyrics, looking for meaning, resonating with something inside me that told me there was also an Out There to be explored and lived.

For me the core was the Stones and Dylan. Obviously it's other artists for other people. There's a part of me that will always be a 14 year old boy in an attic listening to a scratchy copy of Exile on Main Street.

The music industry gave me that for about $6.99.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 12:37 PM (gIRsn)

378 Mostly the Palmyrenes used their script to write Aramaic but the locals used it for Arabic as well, in graffiti.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:02 AM (6FqZa)

So the pre-muslim arabs were the taggers of their era? Who would have expected that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 12:38 PM (oPNmq)

379 that's a hard one. they will most likely figure out
what happened when they grow up and be able to process that kind of
stuff. their school, grades education should be the focus now I think.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2017 12:20 PM (QC/4S)


There is a book called The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce, a 25 year landmark study, Blakesly and Wallenstein. It is drawn from interviews and follow up with children of divorce, during the divorce and years afterwards, and it talks about the stresses that a remarried with kids family faces, and how it affects the kids.

It was being used for a while by mediators in court required mediation prior to allowing divorces in parts of Oregon

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7bjuj5c

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 12:42 PM (2K6fY)

380 Exile is in my top 10. Many days its #1.

A new copy is on its way from Amazon.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 12:42 PM (pV/54)

381 I have a few old books, the oldest of which is: "Mary Queen of Scots" - biography part II, printed in 1822. My father bought it for $2 at a State Dept. employee garage sale in 1985. It's in really good shape aside from needing re-binding. Yeah, it's a 195 year old book. I also have vol. IV of Webster's Works, from 1857. Same origin. I used it for an 11th grade report as a source and my teach made me bring it in to prove I had it. BTW, the Leipzig, Germany book fair is magnificent. Got a 2 volume history of England that ends in 1850 -- guess why.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 19, 2017 12:42 PM (KAi1n)

382 Gifts: I'll be giving copies of "Thinking Fast, Thinking Slow" to relatives, because I think they'll enjoy it.

Also, I'm giving the Great Course on "Do-It-Yourself Engineering" to my son-in-law, for him to do with my grandsons: nothing bonds father and son like building your own rockets and bridges!

Posted by: Brown Line at November 19, 2017 12:43 PM (S6ArX)

383 "my teach made me bring it in to prove I had it."

I hope you got an abject apology.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 12:44 PM (pV/54)

384 My personal opinion is that the music industry is exponentially worse at corrupting the culture than the movie/tv business. It's so much more insidious.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2017 12:21 PM (Pz4pT)

This. Music industry is wayyyy worse than other segments of the entertainment industry. More effective at doing damage.

I hadn't left the room yet either, Burt.
Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 12:33 PM (EzdLW)

Maybe. And especially with the emergence of rap and hip-hop. But while the music business is especially cut-throat, Hollywood and the film business is easily more corrupt and nihilistic.Scuzzier. I mean, we're not hearing stories about Mick Jagger and other golden age rockers groping and grabbing young women.
The women were THROWING themselves on those guys.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (7uYFy)

385 Germany was flattened at the end of the war. So many of the old libraries where replaced by the post modern look or the space age look of the 1950s and 60s.

Posted by: Big V at November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (MVE/7)

386 I just gave a good friend a copy of "Pards", by Texas Bix Bender. Available at Alibris.
"A good pard will like you in spite of your virtues."

This one is particularly appropriate for the Book Thread:
"We all have friends who never knew us, but we knew them - like Shakespeare, Lincoln, J. Frank Dobie, Kit Carson, Plato, Will James, Charlie Russell, and Louie L'Amour."

Posted by: Born Free at November 19, 2017 12:49 PM (7J/uf)

387 And it's shit. Most everything that has been popular for the past 100 years is shit. I'm sorry, it just is.

Oh c'mon. According to what standard? If you're trying to point out that popular music doesn't have the intellectual complexity of, say, the Goldberg Variations, well of course it doesn't. But that doesn't make it bad per se.

People approach music from differing expectations and most of them want it to be nothing more than slightly entertaining background noise while they do other things. You and I might not like that situation but who are we to dictate what the market should be?

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2017 12:53 PM (y7DUB)

388 Had to go through customer service to clear up Amazon account, and reloaded Kindle app

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 12:55 PM (aC6Sd)

389 Stuttgart City Library sure is ultramodern and pristine. Can't wait to take a dump in there, rape the librarians and set it on fire.

Posted by: Mohammedan Ambassador of Enrichment at November 19, 2017 01:00 PM (UW4Uc)

390 The author just wrote an editorial in the NYT about
how he didn't do enough in the 1990s to combat global warning, and how
he feels terrible about it.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 11:09 AM (wYseH)

If he really believes that bullshit, I could recommend to him a nifty way to permanently reduce his personal carbon footprint.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:00 PM (oPNmq)

391 Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 12:55 PM (aC6Sd)

Glad you were able to get it working again.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:01 PM (rp9xB)

392 Nice guy from Cape town ( South Africa maybe) helped me

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 01:02 PM (aC6Sd)

393 People approach music from differing expectations and most of them want it to be nothing more than slightly entertaining background noise while they do other things. You and I might not like that situation but who are we to dictate what the market should be?
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2017 12:53 PM (y7DUB)

Exactly. And I wouldn't argue that MOST popular music at any given time is not that great. Thus the fallacy of the " they don't make music today as good as it was ( usually when I was in high school and making out in the back seat of a '72 Camaro)" syndrome that everyone falls prey to. Most music in any decade is crap. We only remember the good stuff.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:08 PM (7uYFy)

394 My Chemical Rubber Company's Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. Morrison and Boyd's Organic Chemistry. The CRC's Handbook of Identification of Organic Compounds. My copy of Elements of Style.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 19, 2017 01:13 PM (QMwOT)

395 Biblio (149) speaks the truth - even if she is blowing her own horn. Great fun and I laughed out loud many times. Shagging, Shooting and Death is more than worth the time. Except for the missing Oxford comma, that is!

Posted by: pollywog at November 19, 2017 01:17 PM (PfJ3B)

396 385 Germany was flattened at the end of the war. So many of the old libraries where replaced by the post modern look or the space age look of the 1950s and 60s.
Posted by: Big V at November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (MVE/7)
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I think it is a combination of being pounded into powder, and a desire to break with the past. There's a documentary called "Helvetica" on the emergence of that famously smooth and sleek style, which I gathered from context was unencumbered by association with the ornate Germanic script.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:20 PM (qJtVm)

397 387 And it's shit. Most everything that has been popular for the past 100 years is shit. I'm sorry, it just is.

Oh c'mon. According to what standard? If you're trying to point out that popular music doesn't have the intellectual complexity of, say, the Goldberg Variations, well of course it doesn't. But that doesn't make it bad per se.

People approach music from differing expectations and most of them want it to be nothing more than slightly entertaining background noise while they do other things. You and I might not like that situation but who are we to dictate what the market should be?
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2017 12:53 PM (y7DUB)

--Classical music =/= popular music from 200+ years ago.

The popular music from that time might've sucked as well.

I will say that the symphonic music of the last 100 years sucks. But don't slam the Great American Songbook.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:21 PM (GsAUU)

398 389 Stuttgart City Library sure is ultramodern and pristine. Can't wait to take a dump in there, rape the librarians and set it on fire.
Posted by: Mohammedan Ambassador of Enrichment at November 19, 2017 01:00 PM (UW4Uc)

--LMAO

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:24 PM (GsAUU)

399 I will say that the symphonic music of the last 100 years sucks. But don't slam the Great American Songbook.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:21 PM (GsAUU)
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I would narrow it down to the postwar period *spit*. I love Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Gershwin, Sibelius, Holst, and a host of others from the teens to about the forties. Okay, some of mine are turn of the century but they were considered shockingly modern at the time.

When "classical" music devolved into atonal crapulence, movie scores took up the slack IMO.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:25 PM (qJtVm)

400 The Rapey Mohameddan Meme is one we must keep going.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:29 PM (GsAUU)

401 I would narrow it down to the postwar period *spit*. I love Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Gershwin, Sibelius, Holst, and a host of others from the teens to about the forties. Okay, some of mine are turn of the century but they were considered shockingly modern at the time.

When "classical" music devolved into atonal crapulence, movie scores took up the slack IMO.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:25 PM (qJtVm)

And the best modern movie scores are usually drawn from and very influenced by some of the very composers you mentioned.....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:30 PM (7uYFy)

402 And the best modern movie scores are usually drawn from and very influenced by some of the very composers you mentioned.....
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:30 PM (7uYFy)
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"Conan" is straight up Prokofiev, yo.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:30 PM (qJtVm)

403 "Conan" is straight up Prokofiev, yo.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:30 PM (qJtVm)

"Braveheart" is Holst.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (7uYFy)

404 "Braveheart" is Holst.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (7uYFy)
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Tom Conti rips off Prussian marches.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:32 PM (qJtVm)

405 And the best modern movie scores are usually drawn from and very influenced by some of the very composers you mentioned.....
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:30 PM (7uYFy)

--It's been pointed out that soundtrack music is the only "classical" music worth listening to nowadays, because of the pretentious unlistenability of "serious" "classical" music.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:32 PM (GsAUU)

406 Okay, some of mine are turn of the century but they were considered shockingly modern at the time.


I can see you at the "Sacre du Printemps" riots joyously munching popcorn and cackling.

I grew up thinking that everything pre-Beatles was stupid and vapid and probably supporting the heteronormative patriarchy, and then Woody Allen used "Rhapsody in Blue" in the opening for "Manhattan" and all of a sudden the American Songbook made sense.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 01:35 PM (gIRsn)

407 I grew up thinking that everything pre-Beatles was stupid and vapid and probably supporting the heteronormative patriarchy, and then Woody Allen used "Rhapsody in Blue" in the opening for "Manhattan" and all of a sudden the American Songbook made sense.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 01:35 PM (gIRsn)

But that music wasn't even foreign to many rock stars. Paul McCartney grew up in a music -filled home-with a piano in the front parlor--and was familiar with the Songbook and British Music Hall, and we now know that Dylan soaked up all that early stuff--even though his music didn't at all reflect that....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:42 PM (7uYFy)

408 Prokofiev?

"Arise up ye men of Crom!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:44 PM (Edyyb)

409 Well, yes, JoeF. My point is that I was stupid.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 01:45 PM (gIRsn)

410 Well, yes, JoeF. My point is that I was stupid.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 01:45 PM (gIRsn)
To be young is very often to be stupid.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 01:50 PM (7uYFy)

411 Never cared for Gershwin.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 19, 2017 01:53 PM (tcwn1)

412
"Arise up ye men of Crom!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:44 PM (Edyyb)
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zactly.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:54 PM (qJtVm)

413 411 Never cared for Gershwin.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 19, 2017 01:53 PM (tcwn1)

--You're shitting me, right?

"S'Wonderful" is one of the best love songs ever written.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:56 PM (GsAUU)

414
I can see you at the "Sacre du Printemps" riots joyously munching popcorn and cackling.
---
Or watching Nijinsky as the fawn, subtly pleasuring himself as Paris erupts in feigned horror.

"Now that's Art!", I'd say to the pigeon-bosomed society lady next to me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 01:57 PM (qJtVm)

415 *taps chin*

If I wanted to research a specific Navy plane, would Pensacola or DC be the better place to start?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:58 PM (Edyyb)

416 --You're shitting me, right?

"S'Wonderful" is one of the best love songs ever written.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 01:56 PM (GsAUU)

+++

No, I'm really not.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 19, 2017 01:59 PM (tcwn1)

417 I think Eris herself has a book just ready to burst forth like a gay chest-burster.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:59 PM (Edyyb)

418 Shitting a logprof? Ow!

Hope there's some absorbing bathroom reading handy.





I keed, loggie!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:00 PM (qJtVm)

419 Diana Krall sings "S'Wonderful" live in Paris.

https://youtu.be/kWWVZAFMiZQ


Excuse me while I try to pounce on the wifey.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 02:01 PM (GsAUU)

420 I think Eris herself has a book just ready to burst forth like a gay tap-dancing chest-burster.
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Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:02 PM (qJtVm)

421 With top hat and cane no doubt.

"Check please!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 02:03 PM (Edyyb)

422 You writin' a book, Eris?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 02:12 PM (gIRsn)

423 The music industry gave me that for about $6.99.

-
$6.99 and your soul.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:12 PM (Nwg0u)

424 422 You writin' a book, Eris?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 02:12 PM (gIRsn)
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Oh hell no.

Well, I've been collecting snatches (stop!) of dialog and plot for a few decades, but I don't have it in me to write it yet. And if I do, it will be under a pseudonym.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:14 PM (qJtVm)

425 And how were the French the bad guys in the 100 years war?

-
They had a witch conquer Orleans.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:15 PM (Nwg0u)

426 They had a witch conquer Orleans.

So Hillary! was alive back then?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 02:17 PM (Edyyb)

427 Pen-name?

Regina Eris?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 02:19 PM (Edyyb)

428 Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 11:03 AM (jm1YL)

I love Georgette Heyer's books I have never heard them on tape, though,, and they would make marvelous movies, although plenty that goes on takes place in peoples'' thought. How would they do that in a move? . Maybe Heyer has stipulations in her will about them not being turned into movies?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2017 02:19 PM (8+Ozj)

429 And if I do, it will be under a pseudonym.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:14 PM (qJtVm)



By all means, don't use your real birth name, All Hail Eris.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 02:22 PM (NyJwR)

430 The truth is, most music from every era is crap. How few songs do we still have from the 1700s? Only a small number endure, and usually they're all from a very limited number of incredibly talented people.

Some modern music is incredible and very worth listening to, but very, very little is enduring and truly great. Most of it is enjoyable crap like has always been through human history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 02:26 PM (39g3+)

431 Our Wonder World: A Library of Knowledge in Ten Volumes (Geo. L. Shuman & Co., Chicago and Boston. 1914.)

This is a topical encyclopedia. For example, Vol. I is The World and its People; VI, Sports and Pastimes Indoors and Out. It's leather bound, beautifully illustrated.

Like your dictionary & Bartlett's and Elements of Style (hey-- how can you lose that? I have... three copies!) this encyclopedia set is the sort of thing you can just pick up and poke around in for hours. Sure, you can do this with an alphabetical encyclopedia, too, and that's fun. But you'll never see this in a Funk & Wagnall's:

From the Introduction to Vol. IX The Mother's Home Book

"To be a happy homemaker-- what a perplexing and wearing but fine and fascinating task! There is no nobler or more enduring work. ... The home is the mother's throne, where she may reign supreme; and where, if she does not reign, there will be anarchy and misery."

400 pages filled with poems, stories, instruction on how to be a better story teller, a discussion of Dr. Montessori and how you can apply her methods at home for your pre-schooler. It's beautiful. Truly.

I'm not seeing that particular volume at archive.org but they do have several up & available to browse. Take a minutes.

The thing-- one thing, for me-- about these kinds of books is how humble they make me feel. Sure. They are filled with stuff that *we* know is just fucking wrong. Yeast is not a tiny plant, airplanes are not going to fly to the moon, and ... and I'm looking for another example and I come across this, "But wind power is no longer reckoned important among the motive powers of the world."

And that makes my point. Every age thinks it's smarter than those stupid people who went before. And every age can't seem to figure out that a new age is already upon us because they don't fucking read old books. And when they do they laugh. 'Cause *we* couldn't possibly be that stupid *now."

People who discount crappy old books because they are crappy, old, and out of date (Oxford comma!) are navel gazing fools.

Oh look! a photo of a dirigible under construction! I did not know that Count Zeppelin was a dirigible maker.



Posted by: Marica at November 19, 2017 02:29 PM (E3jKY)

432 197 None of us can bring ourselves to tell her what "Hard Candy" means. She has a sweater with it blazed across her chest. She thinks it means butterscotches or peppermints. She's not paired it with the PLEATHER pants.

when i was in high school, my mother took a trip to minnesota to visit her mother. she brought me back a "be kind to animals; kiss a beaver" t-shirt.

i wore it to school once. once.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2017 02:36 PM (/S6j/)

433 Marica, nice post.

I love collecting older books because it shows the foundations on which our culture and technology are based. We really are piggybacking on their genius.

And I for one usually feel we in the modern world are a touch poorer after reading the richer, denser language of the 19th Century.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:36 PM (qJtVm)

434 431 Oh look! a photo of a dirigible under construction! I did not know that Count Zeppelin was a dirigible maker.

speaking of stuttgart...

Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2017 02:39 PM (/S6j/)

435 ah shit I'm super late to this thread but I'll ask anyway;

Any suggestions on history books? More specifically; American, Middle East, Africa and Europe?

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at November 19, 2017 02:40 PM (IYHxL)

436 And if I do, it will be under a pseudonym.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:14 PM (qJtVm)

Eris Lupa

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 02:43 PM (hMwEB)

437 433 And I for one usually feel we in the modern world are a touch poorer after reading the richer, denser language of the 19th Century.

Thanks! Me, too. And quite possibly more than a touch. Though I came across a forum the other day devoted to Gregg Shorthand. That made me feel a little better. :-)

Posted by: Marica at November 19, 2017 02:44 PM (E3jKY)

438 Votermom, ha!

Maybe just Eris Wolfe?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:45 PM (qJtVm)

439 Maybe just Eris Wolfe?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:45 PM (qJtVm)

Oooh, I like it!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 02:50 PM (hMwEB)

440 Eris Wulfe?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 02:51 PM (Edyyb)

441 If I ever need a pen name I'm asking you guys

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 02:52 PM (hMwEB)

442 Any suggestions on history books? More specifically; American, Middle East, Africa and Europe?
Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at November 19, 2017 02:40 PM (IYHxL)

--Several books about WWI in Africa: African Kaiser; Battle for the Bundu; the Great War in East Africa.

Empire of Iron (about Prussia); The English and Their History. To Rule the Waves (about the Royal Navy) by Arthur Herman --a conservative-- is excellent.

The Crusades: A Definitive History

I'm just getting started, but I'll stop for now.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 02:56 PM (GsAUU)

443 *ponders*

To Err Is Wulfe?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 02:58 PM (Edyyb)

444 So the pre-muslim arabs were the taggers of their era? Who would have expected that?

Hah. That's mostly Hismaic.

Nabataeans were about public monuments and Safaitic nomads would build cairns for their loved ones. In Hismaic they'd write stuff like "Sa'id f*cked Fatima here". Even using the word nyk which is currently found in semi-literate graffiti in France (nique ta mere, etc).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 02:59 PM (4Olbg)

445 Nabataeans were about public monuments and Safaitic nomads would build cairns for their loved ones. In Hismaic they'd write stuff like "Sa'id f*cked Fatima here". Even using the word nyk which is currently found in semi-literate graffiti in France (nique ta mere, etc).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 02:59 PM (4Olbg)

--LMAO anyone can learn something from bth.

You rock, mate!

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 03:04 PM (GsAUU)

446 The modern educated retard apparently never gives up, after playing with a photo in software dweeb claims Apollo 17 landing was faked.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 03:07 PM (Edyyb)

447 Apollo 17 was totally faked. We ran out of money.

Apollos 11-16 (minus 13) were completely legit moon landings, but then everyone got caught up in Watergate and VietNam and wasn't really paying attention so NASA just snuck in the fake moon landing to prove that they could.

Also, if you haven't seen Mitchell and Webb's fake moon landing sketch, you owe it to yourself:

https://youtu.be/P6MOnehCOUw

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 03:12 PM (gIRsn)

448 Come on, we all know Jefferson and Hayes and landed on the moon first.

https://youtu.be/T6xJzAYYrX8

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 03:22 PM (GsAUU)

449 So far gone through 319 of the 780 Lunar EVA photos Apollo 17 took. This one should make JJ Abrams feel right at home, lens flare!

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-136-20723HR.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 03:25 PM (Edyyb)

450 "September 31, 1966"

Hot damn, that is funny shit.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 03:43 PM (GsAUU)

451 Books as gifts?

All my friends have large personal libraries so I prefer to give gift cards. Unless someone tells me they can't find a book in which case I do a web search for it.

Posted by: Chrome Oxide at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (fJ93m)

452 Shades of 2001 when the tapir bone becomes a space satellite

Jack Schmidtt's hammer after being thrown up on the Moon
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-143-21938HR.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 04:03 PM (Edyyb)

453 Even using the word nyk which is currently found in semi-literate graffiti in France (nique ta mere, etc).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 02:59 PM (4Olbg)


Klaatu barada nykto!

Posted by: Klaatu Molnar at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (zCyNd)

454 441
If I ever need a pen name I'm asking you guys
You name your pens?

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2017 04:06 PM (HBMMh)

455 415
*taps chin*

If I wanted to research a specific Navy plane, would Pensacola or DC be the better place to start?


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:58 PM (Edyyb)


DC. Naval History and Heritage Command at the Washington Navy Yard.https://www.history.navy.mil/

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2017 04:11 PM (HBMMh)

456 Oi, got other things to do alas than go through 25 film magazines from Apollo 17 when there is on average 150 photos per magazine.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/page1

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 04:13 PM (Edyyb)

457 About those faked moon landings...The Ruskies recently posted photos of THE first moon landing, complete with a cosmonaut wearing a space suit (eerily like our astronauts) sporting a Russian flag, and planting one as well.

They offered a quarter mil U.S. dollars to anyone who could prove it was a photoshop. No one has claimed it yet. That is how good they've gotten with P-shop.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at November 19, 2017 04:25 PM (ihzOe)

458 373
But I would welcome a utility that would transform
e-reader files into pdf's, so I could store them on my local system.

---

Calibre can do that.

calibre-ebook.com


Posted by: r at November 19, 2017 05:16 PM (WrRU4)

459 You name your pens?

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2017 04:06 PM (HBMMh)

Just the good ones.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 05:39 PM (hMwEB)

460 I'm assuming this is Stuttgart, Germany, and not Stuttgart, Arkansas. Not to say the latter isn't a fine city with a nice library. However, being from South Louisiana, I would contest their claim to be "The duck and rice capital of the world."

Posted by: hurricane567 at November 19, 2017 10:31 PM (a3i3j)

461 "Words Into Type" (Skillen & Gay) was my bible for 20 years in editorial production at Good Housekeeping. Still always in arms-reach.

Posted by: Jim Lopez at November 20, 2017 01:07 AM (Czbm2)

462 Is that pic of a library or of a hospital for the insane? . . . Or both?

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at November 20, 2017 08:58 AM (vFmT2)

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