Another Lawless Judge: Federal Government Cannot Withhold Federal Grants from Cities Just Because They Defy Federal Law on "Sanctuary Cities"

You don't have a country when half of the country believes it can live in open defiance of the law.



In a 128-page injunction, Senior United States District Judge Michael Baylson said Department of Justice (DOJ) law enforcement grants can't be withheld from Philadelphia because it refuses full cooperation with federal authorities on immigration, the news outlet reported.

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In his ruling, Baylson said Philadelphia proved that withholding the grant money would cause irreparable damage, as part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose, according to Inquirer reporter Jeremy Roebuck.

Still, the amount of money in question was just $1.4 million out of a $4.4 billion city budget, according to the Inquirer.

When at least half, probably two thirds, of the current government is part of #TheResistance against the actual legally-empowered government, it's time to confess we no longer have a shared civic culture and we are no longer one people under the law or in sentiment and take a mature attitude towards a peaceable division.

Posted by: Ace at 01:25 PM




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1 Wow

Posted by: Abby at November 15, 2017 01:24 PM (sGUcB)

2 First?

Posted by: Abby at November 15, 2017 01:24 PM (sGUcB)

3
In about a year the Supreme Court will tell this judge to pound sand.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 15, 2017 01:26 PM (ajiE5)

4 I can see Ace with one of those hobo bags tied to a stick walking to the new country.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 01:26 PM (4ErVI)

5 Philly can't buy their own damned naloxone?

Posted by: w at November 15, 2017 01:26 PM (vhrlk)

6 He was a W appointment. Swamp gonna swamp.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 01:27 PM (7HtZB)

7 What does the rule pf law even mean anymore?

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 01:27 PM (LiyEm)

8 Yet another Bush gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 01:28 PM (r9UYA)

9 >> part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose


And I care, why?

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 01:28 PM (eCLUN)

10 saving junkies causes irreparable harm to our society, ergo, these grants are illegal.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 15, 2017 01:28 PM (VXS7N)

11 ace, you probably missed this in yesterday's news (shelves and GAINZZ and all), but there's an actual Resistance Hotel going up in DC.

I'll see if I can find the link.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 01:28 PM (PY9jH)

12
Ace.

There is bloodletting going on in the thread below.

Carrots, chili and the smell of blood and pterodactyls everywhere.

.....


.....


Dont do ANYTHING.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 01:28 PM (8XRCm)

13 Physical removal - it's the latest dance-craze.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (fA1SL)

14 part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose

Why isn't the city paying for this? Why is this a use of Federal funds.....?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (tVWQB)

15 You sure can withhold it..Just don't send it... Say the check is in the mail

Posted by: It's me donna at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (O2RFr)

16 @11: I just saw the story about the Resistance Hotel. Any bets on if they comply with #FightFor15?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (RlFza)

17 Hey, does this mean that the Feds can't withold transportation funds over other things, like drinking age? I mean, it's not like you couldn't justify the life-saving nature of such funds.

Posted by: Hal at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (duPWT)

18 Since when did "I really need it" become a legal reason to be able to take money that another entity is unwilling to give you and that they are under no legal obligation to give you?

Posted by: redbanzai at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (9nCnN)

19 "Peaceful division" is a pipe dream. No such thing will ever occur.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (9CkBG)

20 7 What does the rule pf law even mean anymore?

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 01:27 PM (LiyEm)

---

That Conservatives have to obey the law and any made up phony laws the courts decided on. Liberals don't.

Posted by: BomberCommand at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (dpOO+)

21 Golly gee-whiz, I guess we gotta just stop federal grants in their entirety....

Nobody gets nuthin'.....


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (8iiMU)

22 By the same logic, none of us owes anything to the IRS.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (7ZVPa)

23 I'd say this is having their cake and eating it too, but let's face it, they've eaten the cake, put on the pounds and demand that we bake them another so they can eat it again.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (3sOO0)

24 Yep....there are no normal rules anymore.

100% exertion of power against the will of the people.

I think the final gambit is in play.

Whatever the left wants, whenever they want it.

Bonk Bonk on the head.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (ymnmz)

25 What does the rule pf law even mean anymore?

Posted by: steevy at November 15, 2017 01:27 PM (LiyEm)

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The rule of law requires good men to rule. We don't have enough good men ruling. That is why the statement "rule of law and not of men" is rather pointless.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (5NMZN)

26 Funny, innit? Funds for lifesaving are less important to these people than subversion of the rule of law on the taxpayers' dime.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (fA1SL)

27 Resistance Hotel linky (HotAir):

http://tinyurl.com/ybf94k66

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 01:30 PM (PY9jH)

28 Why make it a defined policy, just lose their application a dozen times.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (9TU00)

29 exactly, how many divisions does this penis pumping judge have? time to partay.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (KP5rU)

30
Ummmmm..... Didnt Obama threaten to hold EDUCATION FUNDING from North Carolina just because the State wanted wanted boys and girls to pee in their respective bathrooms??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (8XRCm)

31
Philly can't buy their own damned naloxone?

Posted by: w at November 15, 2017 01:26 PM (vhrlk)


Not yet available on Amazon, though they do sell some rather stylish cases for transport.

Someone I know recently went through CPR training and said a whole lot of emphasis is being placed on 'gloving up' immediately.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (ajiE5)

32 28
Why make it a defined policy, just lose their application a dozen times.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (9TU00)


ding ding

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (ymnmz)

33 128 pages of sophistry, pretzel logic and blathering bullshit to justify an absurd and erroneous, politically motivated, action on his part.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (VXS7N)

34 Hey, does this mean that the Feds can't withold transportation funds over other things, like drinking age? I mean, it's not like you couldn't justify the life-saving nature of such funds.
Posted by: Hal

Ask Wyoming

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (9TU00)

35 By the same logic, none of us owes anything to the IRS.

Interesting.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (r9UYA)

36 Hey, does this mean that the Feds can't withold transportation funds over other things, like drinking age?



^^^^^^^^
This times a Brazilian!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (4Hf9E)

37 Horsecrap.

Keep the money.

Take the cannoli.

How about "stop payment."

It isn't real money anyway--with a deficit like that, those checks are just kites.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (7UW64)

38 Why make it a defined policy, just lose their application a dozen times.
Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM


Woah, woah, woah, what do they look like a Tea Party group? ~Lois Lerner

Posted by: Flyguy at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (3sOO0)

39 So Nullification Theory is now Federal law?

You cannot make up this stuff.

Also, how does this comport with the rulings that citizens do not have a vested right in government benefits?

HAHAHAHAHAHA I thought it would be coherent, I'm so funny.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (mf5HN)

40 The court made their ruling. Now let them enforce it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (9CkBG)

41 Is the District Court answer to a higher court, or is it supervised by one of the SCOTUS judges? Or do we just appoint some asshat for life at that level and let him run amok?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (i0ykY)

42 and when Trump leaves Obama zealots in charge of ICE, and agents are again made to "stand down" ... I begin to wonder again if Rosenstein/Mueller aren't holding Trump hostage (via whatever threats their wide open inquisition can find), in cooperation with McConnell and other NeverTrumpers.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 15, 2017 01:32 PM (/aIFg)

43 Philadelphia is a gutter.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (Bdeb0)

44 I just got a little moist in my Jasper spot.

Posted by: Dana Perino at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (r9UYA)

45 So does this mean they can only use the naloxene on illegal alien junkies?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (O5Q3r)

46 Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (r9UYA)

---------------------------

Notification: Bob does not work for the NSA. He works for the Chinese who stole the NSA login credentials.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (5NMZN)

47 Initial appointment by Reagan. Appointed by W.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (QBsU+)

48 25. Nonsense! As long as we have words on paper, their enactment is all but guaranteed.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (fA1SL)

49 And thus, Saul Alinsky was elevated to Godhood.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (CMbMd)

50 I deny them my essence.

Posted by: Snoreguard Sessions at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (QLvwG)

51 Trump's ICE guy still hasn't been confirmed

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (9TU00)

52 28 Why make it a defined policy, just lose their application a dozen times.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (9TU00)


Well, if the IRS can shitcan any organization it feels like, then I suppose the Treasury can loose the check in the mail a few times.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 01:33 PM (7UW64)

53 If you read to the end of the article in The Hill you run across this little nugget:

"There is no evidence on the record whatsoever that non-citizens in Philadelphia commit any more crimes than the citizens," he said.

This can be parsed numerous ways, especially considering that it's Philadelphia.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 15, 2017 01:34 PM (RD7QR)

54 47. Ahhh! That changes everything, doesn't it?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:34 PM (fA1SL)

55 Brexit, now with 100% more America!


I agree that the USA needs to drop the 'United' nonsense and start working on an amicable split. However, that brings up a lot of questions.


(1. We are divided not just by region, but by street. Lincoln in NE is decidedly blue; how do we separate Lancaster County from the rest of Nebraska? Where will the blue half of Fremont go?


(2. What system can we come up with handle the reallocation / repatriation of assets and debt from various public and private entities?


(3. How do we deal with the *likelihood* of a wave of Lefties coming into the new Red country to 'transform' the new country? Remember, you will be made to care. There is no escape.


(4. What are the ramifications of a divided United States on the world theatre? Petrodollar goes to the wayside, though it might be already... China might jump the gun trying to claim reserve currency status and end up detonating their nitro-laced propped-up shambles of an economy... Middle East will, of course, blow up.


Much as I'd like to divide the country up and escape the Lefties, I just don't think it could ever work... until it quite literally has to, of course.


Sigh...

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (6JL3d)

56 Philadelphia has a massive inferiority complex which has led it to try to become the most Virtue Signal-ly city in the nation.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (CMbMd)

57 By the same argument, DoJ can ignore the judge's ruling and continue to withhold funds.

Is that where this "judge" really wants to go?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (3NjrP)

58 I just saw the story about the Resistance Hotel. Any bets on if they comply with #FightFor15?

Any bets on whether they go under within a year?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (O5Q3r)

59 Judge makes decision and it is the end of the USA. Overreacting a bit much?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (hLRSq)

60 Ace: "...we are no longer one people under the law or in sentiment and take a mature attitude towards a peaceable division."

I think that was established a good while ago. We've had a two-tiered justice system, and that may not even include the extensive abuse of selective prosecution. And let's not even address the carve-outs Congress has for itself to circumvent commoners law.

I sense our own Mugabe-ing in the future. The question is is it current powers increasing or is it new powers overtaking.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (H8S+R)

61 This is exhibit number 1,459,371 in the argument for slashing the size of the federal government by 95% and devolving power back to the States as was the Founders' intent,

Posted by: ShainS at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (0oHg9)

62 55. As others have said - physical removal. They have to leave - where they go is no concern of mine.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (fA1SL)

63 59 Judge makes decision and it is the end of the USA. Overreacting a bit much?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (hLRSq)


"Really!"

- - Roger Taney

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)

64 46 Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (r9UYA)

---------------------------

Notification: Bob does not work for the NSA. He works for the Chinese who stole the NSA login credentials.
Posted by: RioBravo

Clarification, Bob isn't sure who he works for.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (9TU00)

65 George Bush was and is a huge fraud. His daughters could be the most annoying, entitled snobs I have ever seen. Not cute at all. I used to respect Laura Bush....not anymore. That whole family is a joke.

Posted by: ummmm at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (LIhNq)

66 >>>Ahhh! That changes everything, doesn't it?

Hopefully it provides some perspective on who you are talk g about divorcing from.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (QBsU+)

67 I just saw the story about the Resistance Hotel. Any bets on if they comply with #FightFor15?

Any bets on whether they go under within a year?


Posted by: tu3031 at November 15, 2017 01:35 PM (O5Q3r)


Any bets that it is actually owned by Trump?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (hLRSq)

68 Next time an illegal kills someone in Philadelphia, charge the judge as an accomplice.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (Tm5I3)

69 By the same argument, DoJ can ignore the judge's ruling and continue to withhold funds.

Is that where this "judge" really wants to go?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz

If I were to summarize the judges opinion, it would be as much

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (9TU00)

70 >>>This is exhibit number 1,459,371 in the argument for slashing the size of the federal government by 95% and devolving power back to the States as was the Founders' intent,

So you side with Philadelphia?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (QBsU+)

71 19 "Peaceful division" is a pipe dream. No such thing will ever occur.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (9CkBG)

Pretty much. Too many entrenched interests have a huge financial stake in the way things are now. A split threatens their sinecures and their take.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (4ErVI)

72 Seems like just last year when Obama was threatening to stop sending the checks if states receiving federal money didn't get with the gay bathroom sports team thing or whatever.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (fsZof)

73 >>1. We are divided not just by region, but by street. Lincoln in NE is decidedly blue; how do we separate Lancaster County from the rest of Nebraska?

Barbed wire and minefields.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (Bdeb0)

74 Really!"

- - Roger Taney

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (mbhDw)


Yep. There have been far worse decisions made. I am not a Pollyanna, but neither am I a Chicken Little.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (hLRSq)

75 So when (not if) the Dems get control of the WH and heaven forbid the House and/or Senate - do Red States get to tell the sitting president to go pound sand? Oh wait, #Resist is only allowed for the Dems.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (jxbfJ)

76 Brilliant!

I will remember this when I file my taxes.

I will apply for a refund even though I broke the Tax Law.

When they don't give me a refund, I will claim irreparable harm.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (ATVNj)

77 68 Next time an illegal kills someone in Philadelphia, charge the judge as an accomplice.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (Tm5I3)


There's madness in your method. And I mean that in a good way.

Remember after Newtown or Columbine how the Left sued gun manufacturers as accessories to murder?

Sauce, goose, gander. Some assembly required.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (mbhDw)

78 70 >>>This is exhibit number 1,459,371 in the argument for slashing the size of the federal government by 95% and devolving power back to the States as was the Founders' intent,

So you side with Philadelphia?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (QBsU+)

Philadelphia wants Federal dollars but doesn't want to abide by Federal law.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (7HtZB)

79 Wow, that's actually pretty enraging. Gotta go breath into a paper bag.

Posted by: Max Power at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (q177U)

80 67 Any bets that it is actually owned by Trump?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (hLRSq)

Doubtful.

Thinking it's owned by a Saudi or Emirati. Hence the Qu'rans in every room.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (CMbMd)

81 >>68 Next time an illegal kills someone in Philadelphia, charge the judge as an accomplice.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (Tm5I3)

Edited to read: next time an illegal kills someone in Philadelphia, Soylent Green.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (Bdeb0)

82 75
So when (not if) the Dems get control of the WH and heaven forbid the
House and/or Senate - do Red States get to tell the sitting president to
go pound sand? Oh wait, #Resist is only allowed for the Dems.


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (jxbfJ)

As a follow-on thought -- the precedence this is all setting is frightening.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (jxbfJ)

83 So we can't restrict this money because it might mean that Naloxone won't be available to resuscitate heroin addicts? I'm struggling to see where this comes in as a "harm" to the city.

Posted by: Neal F Hyde at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (VWzSH)

84 Stupid jackass was appointed to the court by RINO Bush - I.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (mpXpK)

85 72 Seems like just last year when Obama was threatening to stop sending the checks if states receiving federal money didn't get with the gay bathroom sports team thing or whatever.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (fsZof)

And the donks still support that, I have no doubt

Posted by: CN at November 15, 2017 01:39 PM (5gaNQ)

86 Barbed wire and minefields.



Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (Bdeb0)

I admit, I laughed.

I am a terrible person. ;;

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 15, 2017 01:39 PM (6JL3d)

87 68 Next time an illegal kills someone in Philadelphia, charge the judge as an accomplice.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (Tm5I3)


You forget, Jeff Sessions is our AG.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 01:39 PM (r9UYA)

88 The great separation will not be an easy one... there are to many things that divide us now. This can't go on forever we have fundamental disagreements on to many issues.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at November 15, 2017 01:39 PM (0OmEj)

89 "Peaceful division" is a pipe dream. No such thing will ever occur.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (9CkBG)

Pretty much. Too many entrenched interests have a huge financial stake in the way things are now. A split threatens their sinecures and their take.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis



Peaceful or bloody. Their call.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 01:39 PM (4Hf9E)

90 There are consequences when you break the law. I learned that as a child. And they aren't gonna be good.

If we are not a nation of laws, we are a nation of chaos. This must stop.



Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla or morose moronic moose muse at November 15, 2017 01:39 PM (g/2WM)

91 Philadelphia wants Federal dollars but doesn't want to abide by Federal law.
=====

And somehow can't budget without Fed $.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (MIKMs)

92 83: But if they die, they can't vote blue

Posted by: CN at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (5gaNQ)

93 Doubtful.

Thinking it's owned by a Saudi or Emirati. Hence the Qu'rans in every room.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (CMbMd)


Too bad. It being owned by Trump and that being revealed after a few years would be the best practical joke ever.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (hLRSq)

94 A mature attitude toward peaceable division would be -- not fanaticizing that peaceable division is doable.

The country would look like a hunk of swiss cheese under a semirealistic best case scenario.

Also, there is a uniparty calling the shots. If they wanted to be "for reelz" about being in opposite camps we wouldn't have gotten into this mess to begin with. The money is to be made by skimming the cream off of the top of the biggest can, not two smaller cans. If there are two smaller cans, the overhead is higher since you have to pay off two sets of government toadies. The uniparty won't have it. The uniparty exists to serve its clients, which are not us.

At the present time you can't get "there" from here without a lot of pain.

Posted by: simplemind at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (Wm6h6)

95 74 Yep. There have been far worse decisions made. I am not a Pollyanna, but neither am I a Chicken Little.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (hLRSq)


It's not just the magnitude of any one decision, but taken together, the multitude of horrible decisions from the 9th Circus as a means to sabotage PDT is right up there with the disasters from SCOTUS throughout our history.

It is insurrection and overreach from the Judiciary. That is corrosive to the Republic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (mbhDw)

96 Peaceful Division is an oxymoron. Such a thing has never and will never exist.

The Left wants it all, every single dime of it. They then want you to grovel before them while heading off to your assignment in the salt mines.

Whenever I see one of those stupid "Coexist" bumper stickers, I see somebody who cannot ever coexist with anybody, ever. It's "Submit" as far as they're concerned. No wonder they love them some islam.

Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (EBwPV)

97 But if they die, they can't vote blue

Posted by: CN at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (5gaNQ)

Not with that attitude!

Posted by: The Democrat Party at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (6JL3d)

98 92 83: But if they die, they can't vote blue
_____________________________________

Uhh, not exactly

Posted by: The Chicago Democrat Machine at November 15, 2017 01:41 PM (ATVNj)

99 Even dead Republicans vote blue.

Amazing how that works.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (ul9CR)

100 I AM THE LAW!

Posted by: Trump Dredd at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (HgMAr)

101 When they don't give me a refund, I will claim irreparable harm.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

Because my money fungible and the portion they didn't pay me was that with which I needed to buy medicine and food. Not, the beer and rye money.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (9TU00)

102 So we can't restrict this money because it might mean that Naloxone won't be available to resuscitate heroin addicts? I'm struggling to see where this comes in as a "harm" to the city.
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Injunction ruling - isn't on the merits. Just on the whether there would be immediate harm if not granted?

Posted by: simplemind at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (BUNwa)

103 Emperor Donald has a nice sound to it.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (r9UYA)

104 We could have a division Orrrr we can do what we did last time and have the rightful union re impose its legitiemare authority on the rebellious and deviant democrat controlled states.

Posted by: Connor at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (Z1VE6)

105 A national divorce is too messy. You can shortcut everything by just breaking off California. The loss of electoral votes and house seats would cripple the DNC. The rest of the country would swing right, and California gets to go full Venezuela.

Posted by: wooga at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (VaOnS)

106 So? Do it anyways and let Philly admit that they want enforcement money but don't want to enforce the law.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (z79tQ)

107 boy, talk about shooting your own wheels off

Posted by: x at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (nFwvY)

108 TrumpCamps. Now.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (Bdeb0)

109 Fast track to Supremes

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (aJeeX)

110 So, same with federal Highway funds? Or any damn federal grants?! The spigot only goes one way?

Insanity.

Posted by: GOPe at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (r1OIc)

111 it's time to confess we no longer have a shared civic culture and we are
no longer one people under the law or in sentiment and take a mature
attitude towards a peaceable division


The "melting pot" has up and melted.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (vtcmf)

112 104 We could have a division Orrrr we can do what we did last time and have the rightful union re impose its legitiemare authority on the rebellious and deviant democrat controlled states.
Posted by: Connor at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (Z1VE6)

And that's how the fight started officer. Oh, and something about crossbows v. longbows.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (7HtZB)

113 Why isn't the city paying for this? Why is this a use of Federal funds.....?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 15, 2017 01:29 PM (tVWQB)


That's a question I ask about pretty much every one of the alphabet agencies in DC: why is this even at the Federal level? (Yeah, I know the answer...)

Every bill should have a preamble that details why the States cannot or should not address the principle elements of the bill, and a second part to it explaining what the Feds bring to it that the States cannot or should not.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (3NjrP)

114 Where was that ruling when Louisiana wanted to keep the drinking age at 18?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (zO1cf)

115 104
We could have a division Orrrr we can do what we did last time and have
the rightful union re impose its legitiemare authority on the rebellious
and deviant democrat controlled states.

Posted by: Connor at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (Z1VE6)

Problem is -- the rebellion doesn't follow state borders. Not even county. The evil is among us. Among neighbors, friends and family.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (jxbfJ)

116 Because my money fungible and the portion they didn't pay me was that with which I needed to buy medicine and food. Not, the beer and rye money.
___________________________________

Wait, I'm confused. I thought beer and rye was medicine and food.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (ATVNj)

117 In his ruling, Baylson said Philadelphia proved that withholding the grant money would cause irreparable damage, as part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose, according to Inquirer reporter Jeremy Roebuck.

To the extent that is accurate, that's the choice of the city in question, not the federal government. They aren't compelled to cut off funding to anything, they just choose to. The federal money isn't earmarked to anything specific, and even if it was, the cities can choose to cut other areas to pay for the ones lacking.

Furthermore, this judge is in essence saying that the constitution requires the federal government to give states and cities money without ever cutting it off, which is baldly idiotic and false.

If congress will not deal with these rogue judges and their sloppy, even unconstitutional and illegal rulings, then someone else has to. Is that what they want?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)

118 82 75
So when (not if) the Dems get control of the WH and heaven forbid the
House and/or Senate - do Red States get to tell the sitting president to
go pound sand? Oh wait, #Resist is only allowed for the Dems.


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (jxbfJ)

As a follow-on thought -- the precedence this is all setting is frightening.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Not that we didn't kill 600K people to resolve this already

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (9TU00)

119 96 No wonder they love them some islam.
Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (EBwPV)

Well that, and the use of Death or Dismemberment as the punishment for violations of any decree.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (CMbMd)

120 109 Fast track to Supremes
Posted by: Gonzotx at November 15, 2017 01:43 PM (aJeeX)

OK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPBkiBbO4_4

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (7HtZB)

121 "and take a mature attitude towards a peaceable division."

Again, nope.
They don't want a peaceful division. They want control.

And I want my pound of flesh out of these assholes.

There is no way there will be a peaceful division.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (jWe5r)

122 Philadelphia wants Federal dollars but doesn't want to abide by Federal law.
=====

And somehow can't budget without Fed $.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (MIKMs)



But they sure as hell need that sweet sweet civil asset forfeiture money.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 15, 2017 01:45 PM (mf5HN)

123 114 Where was that ruling when Louisiana wanted to keep the drinking age at 18?
___________________________________

In my pants pocket. Care to reach in and find it?

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at November 15, 2017 01:45 PM (ATVNj)

124
Philadelphia, but of course, claims the money will go to saving overdosed individuals. Sort of how libraries, police, and fire protection disappear when money is tight. Not the exorbitant, budget-busting pensions of some of those said individuals.

Classic move. Predictable.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 15, 2017 01:45 PM (ajiE5)

125 Philadelphia wants Federal dollars but doesn't want to abide by Federal law.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 01:38 PM (7HtZB)

========

Exactly. Thanks for answering before I could get back to addressing the question posed.

Posted by: ShainS at November 15, 2017 01:45 PM (0oHg9)

126 >>>Philadelphia wants Federal dollars but doesn't want to abide by Federal law.

In his ruling, the judge considered **the Spending Clause in Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution, and also to the Tenth Amendment, which reserves to the states (and by definition, local governments) those powers not designated for the federal government. In analyzing other actions issued by the Department of Justice, which claims that their non-observance by the City warrants rejection of the FY 2017 Byrne JAG grant to Philadelphia, the Court concludes the City is likely to succeed in its claims that the Department of Justice conditions are improper under settled principles of the Spending Clause, the Tenth Amendment, and principles of federalism.**

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:45 PM (QBsU+)

127 It's on a par with a person saying: "I have the right to steal from you, otherwise my kids will suffer".

It doesn't even make pragmatic sense. If Philadelphia agrees to help the Feds, the amount they will save on entitlements will allow them to redirect these resources towards naloxone.

The other response to this judge would be to say, "Ok, we'll deny federal funds to Philadelphia, but we will give you naloxone if you face a shortage."

And I don't get why the judge can't say, "Well, Philly, they've got you dead to rights. The ball is in your court".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (/qEW2)

128 normal judges need to auto-recuse these obviously biased judges from "political" cases when the case assignments are made.

Posted by: Witwickian Sage (muh IP=BooBs) at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (RDd1I)

129 See, if a judge says you cannot cut off funding to a city for x reason because it will harm people by ending critical funds, then that is a blanket statement that the federal government cannot cut any funding to any city for any reason because it might harm payments to the citizens there.

Further, you could argue that failing to pay cities is causing harm, so the feds should pay to ones they are not. And more than they are already. Its harming citizens by cutting off potential funding.

This is an absolutely idiotic, asinine ruling that is obviously false and ridiculous. It is utterly without merit or substance and even attempting to state it should cost him his job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (39g3+)

130 Chicago news was teasing a suburb who 'profiles' and it turned out that people who were stopped were almost exactly the mix. I think that suburb is really iffy, but what struck me was how exactly on the % they were. Local news trying to sell profiling, but the conclusion was that there was none. My conclusion was that they are skating right up to the line (tickets are the $ maker after all), and whatever profiling they do is strictly by the numbers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (MIKMs)

131 >>103 Emperor Donald has a nice sound to it.
Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (r9UYA)

Chief Sun-In-His-Hair. Khan Gold. Bigly Brother. Kaiser Don.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (Bdeb0)

132 If congress will not deal with these rogue judges and their sloppy, even unconstitutional and illegal rulings, then someone else has to. Is that what they want?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)



*ragetwitches*

*waves tiny Article III flag from on floor*

*ragetwitches more*

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (mf5HN)

133 withholding the grant money would cause irreparable damage, as part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose

--

FWIW, I see this as a win-win.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (8Zprg)

134 Good luck with that. Federal grants are given for a specific purpose. If you do not comply with the terms and conditions if that grant you are not eligible for it.

This will be struck down with Thor's Hammer.

The state can reallocate other funds for those purposes. There was s no irreparable harm. The Federal Government could actually make the same claim, that misuse of funds could cause irreparable harm and risk to the citizens.

It's lawless and the judge should be impeached.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (nXduh)

135 105 A national divorce is too messy. You can shortcut everything by just breaking off California. The loss of electoral votes and house seats would cripple the DNC. The rest of the country would swing right, and California gets to go full Venezuela.
Posted by: wooga at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (VaOnS)

And China suddenly has military bases on our continent (once the CalComs sell the rights to them), on our border.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (CMbMd)

136 Among neighbors, friends and family.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 01:44 PM (jxbfJ)

Conundrum it is

Posted by: MAC SOG at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (czkHE)

137 114 Where was that ruling when Louisiana wanted to keep the drinking age at 18?

FYNQ

Posted by: M.A.D.D. And Liddy Dole at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (VaOnS)

138 It is insurrection and overreach from the Judiciary. That is corrosive to the Republic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2017 01:40 PM (mbhDw)


Yep, it is bad. So the corrective is to dissolve the country. Am I the only thinking that may be a little extreme? Because I really think that is a little extreme and over-wrought.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (hLRSq)

139 @126 the Commerce Clause will override all that

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (QC/4S)

140 "I have the right to steal from you, otherwise my kids will suffer".


Woke, man. Just woke.

Posted by: UCLA Basketball Players in China at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (vtcmf)

141 A friendly divorce would optimally require a ten year plan. I think we could do it in five. Lets do it. I am itching to start my relocation broker business.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 01:47 PM (zO1cf)

142 Wait, the 10th Amendment, I thought the 10th Amendment was dead

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:48 PM (9TU00)

143 OT: I want to let everyone know that a faithful member of the Horde, Tonypete, experienced atrial fibrillation last night, which wouldn't resolve. He is in the hospital undergoing tests, and would appreciate prayers from the Horde. I will post this again on the ONT. Tontpete needs to be added to Slapweasel's prayer list.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at November 15, 2017 01:48 PM (TdMsT)

144 Remember how on the Obamacare Medicaid expansion Kagan basically state HAD to take the boatloads and expand Medicaid rolls.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 15, 2017 01:48 PM (bmkS9)

145 72 Seems like just last year when Obama was threatening to stop sending the checks if states receiving federal money didn't get with the gay bathroom sports team thing or whatever.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 15, 2017 01:37 PM (fsZof)


See, it's a matter of perspective and values.

Little girls need to see penises so they can get used to being around penises, so we will not pay you unless you let men use the little girls room. Using the WRONG DAMNED BATHROOM is progressive and all, y'know? Rape is a small price to pay for our political correctness, so you will do as we say or you don't get paid.

But, you cannot require that people who are BREAKING THE DAMNED LAW BY BEING IN THE WRONG COUNTRY leave, so you need to keep sending the money.

/WT ever-lovin' F?

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 15, 2017 01:48 PM (7UW64)

146 I blame the GOP.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 01:48 PM (r9UYA)

147 126. Federalism =/= rejection of compliance with established law. Supremacy Clause & all that.

Hizzoner is mistaken.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:48 PM (fA1SL)

148 Emperor Donald has a nice sound to it.
Posted by: Under Fire



Because I am hard, you will not like me.
But the more you hate me, the more you will learn.
I am hard but I am fair.
Here you are all equally worthless.
And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Country.
Do you maggots understand that?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 01:50 PM (4Hf9E)

149 Hizzoner is wasting money and time

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 01:51 PM (QC/4S)

150 Here's my offer:

They leave.

No right of return.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at November 15, 2017 01:51 PM (P83tS)

151 Prayers for Tonypete.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 15, 2017 01:51 PM (RD7QR)

152 Hizzoner is wasting money and time

Alas, that is about 90% of the legal field.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 15, 2017 01:51 PM (PFy0L)

153 OT:

What the hell was Trump's bigly announcement upon his return? I must have missed it.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (5NMZN)

154 wooga: "A national divorce is too messy. You can shortcut everything by just breaking off California. The loss of electoral votes and house seats would cripple the DNC. The rest of the country would swing right, and California gets to go full Venezuela."

That's actually a pretty clever plan. And it could be done quickly, too. I would like to subscribe to this newsletter until a better one comes along.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (H8S+R)

155 A quick way to forcefully restore the rule of law would be to impeach these out of control judges.

Posted by: Iblis at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (9221z)

156 >>103 Emperor Donald has a nice sound to it.
Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (r9UYA)

Chief Sun-In-His-Hair. Khan Gold. Bigly Brother. Kaiser Don.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:46 PM (Bdeb0)
..............

Beautiful.

Posted by: Jefe El Donaldo at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (HgMAr)

157 The problem is that these judges are ruling in ways that protect open borders and uncontrolled immigration, which the large majority of congressmen seem to not just favor but delight in. So they're never going to do anything about these judges. Not ever.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (39g3+)

158 150. Yep. It'll hurt a little, no denying, but it would be best for all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (fA1SL)

159 Genghis Don.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (Bdeb0)

160 And he was a W appointee. Good God.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (FIdOt)

161 It's always sunny in Philadelphia.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 15, 2017 01:53 PM (dZ756)

162 "... and take a mature attitude towards a peaceable division."


A nice sentiment, but does anyone seriously believe that it could happen ? 2 reasons why not:
- "mature"; we are the adults, they are spoiled children.
- where do they get the endless supply of "other people's money" to support their tottering edifice ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (Ktb8D)

163 King who Trumps

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (326rv)

164 Of course, Illegal Immigration causing irreparable harm to the black community is never an issue.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (9TU00)

165 I've come to the conclusion that the lefties were right, W was a missing village idiot. Guess they recognize their own.

Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (EBwPV)

166 Appointed as US Attorney by Reagan. Appointed as Judge by W.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (QBsU+)

167 Ace, I recognize we are in post-nihilist territory, but there is still something to be said for states rights. There are and should be limitations on the federal government telling states/municipalities what to do. That is my first kneejerk reaction.

That big caveat in mind, I have no idea if those concerns are validated in this case or not. The opinion is absurdly long and includes passages such as:

"The operatic hero Orfeo was allowed to escape Hades with his deceased and beloved Eurydice, conditioned on his not looking at her, but when he does, she dies; Mephistopheles grants Faust eternal knowledge and pleasure on the condition that Faust surrender his soul; and Salome, the title character demands the head of St. John the Baptist as a condition to dance for King Herod."

The judge is doing so much grandstanding and the law is buried under so much rubble that you may well be right, this time.

Posted by: Crispian at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (wbYF0)

168 A national divorce is too messy. You can shortcut everything by just breaking off California. The loss of electoral votes and house seats would cripple the DNC. The rest of the country would swing right, and California gets to go full Venezuela.


YUP!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at November 15, 2017 01:55 PM (0OmEj)

169 My client is only guilty of being hornier than a two peckered billy goat. Happens to us all.

Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (OD2ni)

170 164 Of course, Illegal Immigration causing irreparable harm to the black community is never an issue.
Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (9TU00)

It's a numbers game. The black population as a percentage is declining and the Latino population is increasing. Politicians are herd animals and go with the strong horse.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (RD7QR)

171 And he was a W appointee. Good God.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 01:52 PM (FIdOt)

That is the other tradition that has to end. These judges are partly selected based on their locations political make up and recommendations from the political leaders in the area.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (zO1cf)

172 166. And no less mistaken for all that. Being a Reagan or Bush 'guy' does not convey some sort of +5 Resistance to Error.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (fA1SL)

173 >>>The opinion is absurdly long and includes passages such as:
"The operatic hero Orfeo was allowed to escape Hades with his deceased and beloved Eurydice, conditioned on his not looking at her, but when he does, she dies; Mephistopheles grants Faust eternal knowledge and pleasure on the condition that Faust surrender his soul; and Salome, the title character demands the head of St. John the Baptist as a condition to dance for King Herod."

Why not include the sentence preceding the quote and the sentence after?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (QBsU+)

174 Not that I like the alternative, you understand, just that I don't see a peaceful split as something that could happen under present circumstances.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (Ktb8D)

175 Seeing a lot of really disgusting footage of Joe Biden with little girls. A LOT. One shot has Sessions with his little grand daughter present, and Biden tries to get his hands on her. Sessions slaps his hand away and moves his little one clear.

Every time a family has girls he keeps saying "what a beautiful family, what beautiful girls," etc. He insists on having them next to him, especially pressed up against his, er, lap. He puts his hands on them. You can see in several cases where he starts on their shoulder and slides slowly around to their chest.

Its really disturbing. Extremely so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (39g3+)

176 - where do they get the endless supply of "other people's money" to support their tottering edifice ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez,


I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
They can sell unicorn farts.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (4Hf9E)

177 In his ruling, Baylson said Philadelphia proved that withholding the grant money would cause irreparable damage, as part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose, according to Inquirer reporter Jeremy Roebuck.

Still, the amount of money in question was just $1.4 million out of a $4.4 billion city budget, according to the Inquirer.


Are you kidding me?

And as for those ODing on opioids, that tends to be a self-correcting problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (FIdOt)

178 The judge is doing so much grandstanding and the law is buried under so much rubble that you may well be right, this time.
Posted by: Crispian

WIH does states rights have to do with the notion that states can demand federal money, or that the federal government no longer has the right to control disbursement?

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (326rv)

179 >>>And no less mistaken for all that. Being a Reagan or Bush 'guy' does not convey some sort of +5 Resistance to Error.

I already told you why I mentioned it.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (QBsU+)

180 170 164 Of course, Illegal Immigration causing irreparable harm to the black community is never an issue.
Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (9TU00)

It's a numbers game. The black population as a percentage is declining and the Latino population is increasing. Politicians are herd animals and go with the strong horse.
Posted by: joncelli

Kennedy noticed that years ago, hence our current immigration laws.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (9TU00)

181 The allegations against my client are untrue. He only hit on a few teenage girls.

Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (OD2ni)

182 "There are and should be limitations on the federal government telling states/municipalities what to do."

Immigration enforcement is one of those areas the courts previously said states and local governments cannot defy federal policy. Not law -- policy.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (Tm5I3)

183 My client is only guilty of being hornier than a two peckered billy goat. Happens to us all.
Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (OD2ni)

That is as funny as a mime in a dark room.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 15, 2017 01:58 PM (zO1cf)

184
Seeing a lot of really disgusting footage of Joe Biden with little
girls. A LOT. One shot has Sessions with his little grand daughter
present, and Biden tries to get his hands on her. Sessions slaps his
hand away and moves his little one clear.



Every time a family has girls he keeps saying "what a beautiful
family, what beautiful girls," etc. He insists on having them next to
him, especially pressed up against his, er, lap. He puts his hands on
them. You can see in several cases where he starts on their shoulder
and slides slowly around to their chest.



Its really disturbing. Extremely so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (39g3+)


He has a dead son, H8er!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2017 01:58 PM (PY9jH)

185
*scans the Constitution*

*jab finger on dusty parchment*


RIGHT THERE!!! The Power of the Purse solely belongs to the Judiciary.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 01:58 PM (8XRCm)

186 >>165 I've come to the conclusion that the lefties were right, W was a missing village idiot. Guess they recognize their own. Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (EBwPV)

A missing village idiot. With paint.

They can have the artist. Zod will take his MILF wife.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:58 PM (Bdeb0)

187 80, 67 Any bets that it is actually owned by Trump?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories
30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (hLRSq)


Doubtful.


Thinking it's owned by a Saudi or Emirati. Hence the Qu'rans in every room."


Trump Jr. can buy it for a song in a year or so and renovate it so it makes money.

Posted by: geoffb at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (zOpu5)

188 I say just fire everyone and see what happens.

Move parts of the federal government outside the DC corridor to places like North Dakota.

Posted by: Maritime at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (lKmt3)

189 >>>Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer

I would like to contribute to your talk show appearance fund.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (QBsU+)

190 Great breaking news, everybody! Bipartisan gun control!

Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT
Big news: super close to a bipartisan breakthrough on gun legislation. Stay tuned...
10:14 AM - Nov 15, 2017

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (Nwg0u)

191 "Why not include the sentence preceding the quote and the sentence after?"

Why didn't you?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (Tm5I3)

192 Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer

Hillary? Is that you?

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (326rv)

193 Another benefit to separation is that we can have a motion in the new Continental Congress to clarify that chili with carrots in it is actually stew.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (4ErVI)

194 Seeing a lot of really disgusting footage of Joe Biden with little girls. A LOT. One shot has Sessions with his little grand daughter present, and Biden tries to get his hands on her. Sessions slaps his hand away and moves his little one clear.

Every time a family has girls he keeps saying "what a beautiful family, what beautiful girls," etc. He insists on having them next to him, especially pressed up against his, er, lap. He puts his hands on them. You can see in several cases where he starts on their shoulder and slides slowly around to their chest.

Its really disturbing. Extremely so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor



So Biden's a pedophile.

Doesn't matter the accuracy of the charge, just that it's credible.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 01:59 PM (4Hf9E)

195 where do they get the endless supply of "other people's money" to support their tottering edifice ?

Transfer the money from welfare benefits.

I've long maintained that the way to break the Left's teeth on spending is simple: don't fund individual programs, but rather give the Left a lump sum for THEM to distribute. Let the various units of the FSA slug it out for the bucks.

Sure, they'll bitch that the lump sum should be larger, but each units of the FSA will quickly forget that and go on the offensive to get their snouts in the trough.

And then hilarity will ensue as they go for each others' throats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:00 PM (FIdOt)

196 The judge is doing so much grandstanding and the law is buried under so much rubble that you may well be right, this time.

==


would have been more valuable and credible if he did not cite fairytales to support his ruling, but alas...

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 02:00 PM (QC/4S)

197 Ace, I recognize we are in post-nihilist territory, but there is still something to be said for states rights. There are and should be limitations on the federal government telling states/municipalities what to do. That is my first kneejerk reaction.

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I agree. I'm a BIG states' rights advocate.

Assuming they don't want to obey federal law, their first step is to refuse all federal funds. You don't get to cash those sweet, sweet federal checks AND make your own rules re:federal law, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 15, 2017 02:00 PM (5r4ww)

198 Its really disturbing. Extremely so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (39g3+)
===================================Twenty years from now Matt Yglesias will write something very similar about Bidet. While blaming you for delaying his conscience from a tardy response.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 15, 2017 02:00 PM (LISuA)

199 >>>Why didn't you?

I like to create suspense.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 02:01 PM (QBsU+)

200 Now is when Trump Jr. needs to exercise a little pimp-hand over his sister. He's a hunter; he needs to talk to Pops about all this gun-grabber-jabber.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:01 PM (Bdeb0)

201 I've decided that BattleStar Galactica is kind of tedious.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (PFy0L)

202 Seriously if it was just one or two examples it could be just him liking children and accidents but over and over and over... he's just handsy and disgusting. This guy clearly, clearly has a problem. Lots of rumors out of DC about him too. Like the rumor that he got punched by a secret service guy when Biden touched his daughter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (39g3+)

203 Ok, the city of Philly has a budget of 4.4 BILLION. How heck do they even operate. A dam city needs an amount of money needed to run a small size banana republic. What in the name of Sam Hill are they doing with it. And they want to quibble over just a million. That is so wrong.

Posted by: Morigu at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (8bzCU)

204 "There are and should be limitations on the federal government telling states/municipalities what to do."



There should be a limit to states demanding federal monies.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (4Hf9E)

205 "189 >>>Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer

I would like to contribute to your talk show appearance fund.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies)"


Seriously. The fact that Moore hired that idiot disqualifies him. Was William Ginsberg unavailable?

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (OD2ni)

206 My client always helped his dates with their math homework. You shoyld like that, didn't your people invent zeros or something?

Posted by: Roy Moore's Lawyer To A Muslim Anchor at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (SKaHS)

207 If the sex stuff eliminates Clinton and Biden for 2020 then who runs "D?" Mooch? Kameltoe? Fauxohantas?

Posted by: geoffb at November 15, 2017 02:03 PM (zOpu5)

208 Not that I like the alternative, you understand, just that I don't see a peaceful split as something that could happen under present circumstances.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (Ktb8D)

105 A national divorce is too messy. You can shortcut everything by just breaking off California. The loss of electoral votes and house seats would cripple the DNC. The rest of the country would swing right, and California gets to go full Venezuela.
Posted by: wooga at November 15, 2017 01:42 PM (VaOn


Californians are clamoring for Calexit. Some in the north would like to break from SoCal and call themselves the state of Jefferson.

We wouldn't even have to change the flag! Winning

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:03 PM (z79tQ)

209 Seeing a lot of really disgusting footage of Joe Biden with little
girls. A LOT.
_____



http://tinyurl.com/y8c4qqcf

http://tinyurl.com/ycwrq6r5

http://tinyurl.com/y8k8npul

http://tinyurl.com/yagqdl5c

http://tinyurl.com/yd3lbgof

http://tinyurl.com/y847w7sh



Kinda like KDs compliance pics

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:03 PM (8XRCm)

210 I recognize we are in post-nihilist territory, but there is still something to be said for states rights. There are and should be limitations on the federal government telling states/municipalities what to do. That is my first kneejerk reaction.

I'm against the federal government telling states what to do within their own borders. I'm also against the federal government flooding money into states like they are.

Cutting off funding because the feds don't like what a state is doing is ideal for both positions. Not only does it stop the funds pouring in, but it is a non-invasive response to a state's actions. The government expresses its dislike, the state can choose what to do about it. Win-win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:04 PM (39g3+)

211 Trump and the Judiciary committee need to speed up the approval and nomination process on district court judges. There are about 90 seats still open with no designated nominee, and they are just waiting for good conservative judges to get to work.

Posted by: LASue at November 15, 2017 02:04 PM (hZ+us)

212 " - where do they get the endless supply of "other people's money" to support their tottering edifice ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez,

I. Don't. Give. A. Shit.
They can sell unicorn farts.
Posted by: rickb223 "


Oh, neither do I.
I'm just citing a reason they will not let us go in peace.


I would get fat and constipated from all the popcorn I'd consume while watching Blue America turn into someplace that people would emigrate to Venezuela and Zimbabwe from.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (Ktb8D)

213 Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:03 PM (z79tQ)

I live in the Bay Area and plan on voting yes on Calexit and moving back to the States once it's in process.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (wwd4n)

214 i guess approaching senility and having time on one's hands, leaves one with irresistible urge to weave precious threads of ovid's metamorphoses and homeric hymns into US immigration opinions

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (QC/4S)

215 Judicial coup status:

(anyone want to fill in the answer?)


Again, the "courts" acting as blue-ribbon panels with legislative power.


The impact of policy is not their bailiwick, their competence, or within their authority to judge. Their job is to ensure the guvamint acts on the basis of law.


If the law creating the grant program gives the feds discretion such as that being used by DOJ here, then that's it, game over. If it doesn't, then game over the other way. The "impact" is not the court's concern.


And as I whined for months not that long ago, this pin-prick and possibly illegal approach by DOJ was an advertisement of weakness and poor resolve.


Binding, simple appropriations language is the the answer - obviously - and always was. Reinforced by reciprocity by federal law enforcement, i.e., declining to assist on matters of local priority as a tit-for-tat to get the attention of the noble police and DA. Further reinforced by prosecutions of local officials whose actions directly lead to denial of civil rights via crimes committed by illegals with ICE detainers who are released.


Disastrously, the Trump administration is showing itself to be unserious on its most important policy, and the topic that more than any other accounts for the outsider grabbing the White House.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (QDnY+)

216 So Biden is a pedophile.

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This is a fair statement. Dude's a creepcanoe.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Creeps at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (SKaHS)

217 >>>Seriously. The fact that Moore hired that idiot disqualifies him.

Do you think he was his first choice?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (QBsU+)

218 I've come to the conclusion that the lefties were right, W was a missing village idiot. Guess they recognize their own. Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2017 01:54 PM (EBwPV)

A missing village idiot. With paint.

They can have the artist. Zod will take his MILF wife.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 01:58 PM (Bdeb0)


W was a little bit of a functioning retard, but damn the alternatives were way..way..WAY fucking worse. Algore? Kerry?

Seriously, I would rather of had W playing with little plastic army men on his desk in the oval office before letting algore or Kerry stench that place up.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:06 PM (aMlLZ)

219 Interstates
State highways
County roads
City streets
Driveways

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Which of those should federal dollars be spent on?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 15, 2017 02:06 PM (5r4ww)

220 I live in the Bay Area and plan on voting yes on Calexit and moving back to the States once it's in process.
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at November 15, 2017 02:05 PM (wwd4n)

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Bet your ASS a wall goes up then.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:07 PM (8XRCm)

221 Frankly, if California votes to secede, I expect the area north of Sacramento or so to leave the state. And I also would not at all be surprised if most of the nation voted to let them go. I mean, it would be state by state, not some popular vote. I easily could see get 2/3rds of the states to say "get the hell out" if given the option. Sure, states like NYC would complain because of all the electoral votes etc, but they'd only be one state.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:07 PM (39g3+)

222 211 Trump and the Judiciary committee need to speed up the approval and nomination process on district court judges. There are about 90 seats still open with no designated nominee, and they are just waiting for good conservative judges to get to work.
Posted by: LASue at November 15, 2017 02:04 PM (hZ+us)


District court is nice, but the game is really played at the appellate level. That's what we need to pack with young conservatives.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:07 PM (FIdOt)

223 >>So Biden is a pedophile.


He bad touches women of all ages.

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:08 PM (eCLUN)

224 Which of those should federal dollars be spent on?

Interstate highways. Anything connecting one state to another in some way. That's federal territory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

225 Seriously, I would rather of had W playing with
little plastic army men on his desk in the oval office before letting
algore or Kerry stench that place up.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:06 PM (aMlLZ)

--------------------------------------------------
His most productive vision was searching his desk for WMD. /

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 02:08 PM (5NMZN)

226 "Do you think he was his first choice?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus"


No, but there are a lot of smart lawyers that will do anything for money. Look at Scientology and its stable of high priced, shameless sharks.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (OD2ni)

227 Seeing a lot of really disgusting footage of Joe Biden with little girls. A LOT. One shot has Sessions with his little grand daughter present, and Biden tries to get his hands on her. Sessions slaps his hand away and moves his little one clear.

Every time a family has girls he keeps saying "what a beautiful family, what beautiful girls," etc. He insists on having them next to him, especially pressed up against his, er, lap. He puts his hands on them. You can see in several cases where he starts on their shoulder and slides slowly around to their chest.

Its really disturbing. Extremely so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor



According to some bint at the NYT, unedited CSPAN footage of Joe Biden is alt right fake news. Because of course it is.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (mf5HN)

228 Well that was fun. Just saw the press conference at UCLA held to allow the 3 players who shoplifted in China make their apologies. Among the people they thanked for getting them home was Trump.

That must sting.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (/tuJf)

229 >>Anything connecting one state to another in some way.



Canals!

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (eCLUN)

230 Remind me how we recall judges for being political hacks?

New look at the last moments of Mussolini?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (xJa6I)

231 Do you think he was his first choice

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I wouldn't touch him

Posted by: Lionel Hutz at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (SKaHS)

232 221 Frankly, if California votes to secede, I expect the area north of Sacramento or so to leave the state. And I also would not at all be surprised if most of the nation voted to let them go. I mean, it would be state by state, not some popular vote. I easily could see get 2/3rds of the states to say "get the hell out" if given the option. Sure, states like NYC would complain because of all the electoral votes etc, but they'd only be one state.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:07 PM (39g3+)


Also the Central Valley, Inland Empire, and parts of SoCal (south of LA), although the liberal infestation is going strong here now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (FIdOt)

233 219 Which of those should federal dollars be spent on?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 15, 2017 02:06 PM (5r4ww)

Sex change surgery for 21 year old weirdoes who want to permanently LARP as their chatroom characters.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (WDCYi)

234 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:56 PM (QBsU+)

Because I wanted to give a flavor of style. My contention wasn't that there is no discussion of law (there is! lots and lots and lots of it!), but that the presentation is not the most-straightforward.

Posted by: Crispian at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (wbYF0)

235 If the law creating the grant program gives the feds discretion such as that being used by DOJ here, then that's it, game over. If it doesn't, then game over the other way. The "impact" is not the court's concern.



Well known fact: fed grants always comes with strings. Strings that they use to keep you compliant.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (4Hf9E)

236 204
"There are and should be limitations on the federal government telling states/municipalities what to do."







There should be a limit to states demanding federal monies.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:02 PM (4Hf9E)

^^^^^^^^^^THIS

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (jxbfJ)

237 http://tinyurl.com/y8k8npul

I have t point out that ths one's a photoshop. Notice Biden has grown an extra hand.

But it's 2017, so fuckit, let him deny it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (z79tQ)

238 227 Seeing a lot of really disgusting footage of Joe Biden with little girls. A LOT. One shot has Sessions with his little grand daughter present, and Biden tries to get his hands on her. Sessions slaps his hand away and moves his little one clear.

Every time a family has girls he keeps saying "what a beautiful family, what beautiful girls," etc. He insists on having them next to him, especially pressed up against his, er, lap. He puts his hands on them. You can see in several cases where he starts on their shoulder and slides slowly around to their chest.

Its really disturbing. Extremely so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


According to some bint at the NYT, unedited CSPAN footage of Joe Biden is alt right fake news. Because of course it is.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (mf5HN)

The truth is, after all, what THEY say it is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (xJa6I)

239 He bad touches women of all ages.

Yeah I don't think Biden limits himself to little girls. I think he seems to especially prefer them but not exclusively.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (39g3+)

240 Who cares about Moore's lawyer? What's he charged with? Which crimes, which jurisdiction?


Oh, right.


Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (QDnY+)

241 >>W was a little bit of a functioning retard, but damn the alternatives were way..way..WAY fucking worse. Algore? Kerry? Seriously, I would rather of had W playing with little plastic army men on his desk in the oval office before letting algore or Kerry stench that place up. Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:06 PM (aMlLZ)

At least if Gore had been elected, the planet would be saved and we wouldn't have to use cars to get around. And lock-box. And stuff.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (Bdeb0)

242 There is no coherent reason for California to secede, as long as they can blood suck the Federal Government, and flout Federal law at their pleasure.
They know this... but they do so love Posturing..

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (pL6Vz)

243 Disastrously, the Trump administration is showing itself to be unserious
on its most important policy, and the topic that more than any other
accounts for the outsider grabbing the White House.
---

Let's say that you are being held hostage, and a gun is being held to your head.

Also, your brother in law Bob borrowed your lawn mower not only will he not give it back, he's not taking your calls.

Welcome to Trump's life.

Hostage situation= Crazy Norks threatening to kill us/ WWIII.

Brother in law= lawbreaking judicial system.

Which one are you going to pay closest attention to?

Posted by: shibumi at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (aT+Bx)

244 211 Trump and the Judiciary committee need to speed up the approval and nomination process on district court judges. There are about 90 seats still open with no designated nominee, and they are just waiting for good conservative judges to get to work.

Posted by: LASue at November 15, 2017 02:04 PM (hZ+us)

They're moving at a record clip, actually. Saw an article last week that they got four judges seated in a week. That's a record, I think. Obama didn't get that many done in a year.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 02:11 PM (4ErVI)

245 228 Well that was fun. Just saw the press conference at UCLA held to allow the 3 players who shoplifted in China make their apologies. Among the people they thanked for getting them home was Trump.

That must sting.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (/tuJf)



Wow. They're better bred than I'd have thought.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:11 PM (FIdOt)

246 >>He insists on having them next to him, especially pressed up against his, er, lap. He puts his hands on them. You can see in several cases where he starts on their shoulder and slides slowly around to their chest. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

He puts the lotion on his skin.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:11 PM (Bdeb0)

247
I have t point out that ths one's a photoshop. Notice Biden has grown an extra hand.

But it's 2017, so fuckit, let him deny it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (z79tQ)

------

Fair point.


This ones real.


http://tinyurl.com/y973zsnf

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (8XRCm)

248 W was best choice when he was in play.. the other options were horrifying... having said that, I have little respect for him now..

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (pL6Vz)

249 >>>Because I wanted to give a flavor of style. My contention wasn't that there is no discussion of law (there is! lots and lots and lots of it!), but that the presentation is not the most-straightforward.

And the first passage you could find like that was on page 127 of 128? Nothing earlier?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (QBsU+)

250 According to some bint at the NYT, unedited CSPAN footage of Joe Biden is alt right fake news. Because of course it is.

Yeah I saw that, its sudden! Just in the last 24 hours!

No lady, we've been talking about this for years. The guy is plainly a creep. So much so that the news media has to know it and is covering for him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)

251 Biden, perv, gp link

https://goo.gl/aB39cg

Posted by: Auscolpyr at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (suO/a)

252 Balance the federal budget by stopping all transfers of money from the Federal government to the states. Period.

Tell the judge that we (the Feds) don't have the money. Period.

Reduce every number in the remaining federal budget by 5% every year until the budget balances, and then keep it there for fifty years.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (4XCge)

253 Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 01:57 PM (326rv)

It's about the 10th Amendment. In the Obamacare case, the Supreme Court held the Medicaid provision (requiring states to expand Medicaid or lose all Medicaid funding) was unconstitutionally coercive.

Posted by: Crispian at November 15, 2017 02:13 PM (wbYF0)

254 $1.4 million will buy a lot of judicial penis pumps. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2017 02:13 PM (2Mnv1)

255 W was a little bit of a functioning retard, but damn the alternatives were way..way..WAY fucking worse. Algore? Kerry? Seriously, I would rather of had W playing with little plastic army men on his desk in the oval office before letting algore or Kerry stench that place up. Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:06 PM (aMlLZ)

At least if Gore had been elected, the planet would be saved and we wouldn't have to use cars to get around. And lock-box. And stuff.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:10 PM (Bdeb0)


You know what, fuck the planet. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:13 PM (aMlLZ)

256 "...it's time to confess we no longer have a shared civic culture and we are no longer one people under the law or in sentiment and take a mature attitude towards a peaceable division."

Is there anything in our history that speaks to anything remotely resembling maturity or peaceable division?

We'll either be one thing or another: a failing, authoritarian, socialist superstate or a constitutional republic. We won't be both.

Posted by: troyriser at November 15, 2017 02:13 PM (my7fr)

257 Silly citizens, only rules by Democrats rules have to be followed by townships, city and state

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2017 02:13 PM (aC6Sd)

258 To be fair it's probably the voices in Biden's head that tell him to grope the ladies.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (4ErVI)

259 "And the first passage you could find like that was on page 127 of 128? "

What is your fucking point?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (Tm5I3)

260 Philly is screwed. They've a tax on people who work in the city, and now workers are going "work @ home" to avoid the tax.

But at least the Eagles are making a run @ the post season so that they can profoundly disappoint their fans come Jan/Feb.

Posted by: regular joe at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (ltZiU)

261 Well that was fun. Just saw the press conference at
UCLA held to allow the 3 players who shoplifted in China make their
apologies. Among the people they thanked for getting them home was
Trump. That must sting. Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (/tuJf)
=====

I was making mental bets with myself whether they would have the honesty to thank the President.

I am pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (MIKMs)

262
Biden, perv, gp link
--

Didn't you get the memo? Only Republicans can be pervs.

Any sexual weirdness with Democrats is "progressive."

Posted by: shibumi at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (aT+Bx)

263 But rickb223, the only question (the *only* question) before the court is whether the law governing the grants in question contains such "strings", or more accurately gives discretion to the feds to withhold or otherwise condition disbursement.


If yes, then game over, feds get to withhold $. If not, then not. It's that simple.


"Impact" does not enter into it - obviously.


But this is exactly the lawlessness we saw in the "travel order" cases. Absurd "standing" given to people to stop implementation of a policy that is completely within the executive's authority, as delegated by Congress.


There's a reason I use the term "judicial coup". It's a precise, and apt, term. They've been usurping executive and legislative power for decades, but recently it's reached critical proportions. Congress has the power to fix all of it, but the topic has literally never been seriously discussed. The executive has the power to repudiate, but nobody near the levers of power has the smarts or character to try anything close to that responsible or useful.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (QDnY+)

264 So, I see sanity seems to be outre today.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (ycWCI)

265 To be fair it's probably the voices in Biden's head that tell him to grope the ladies.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

love riding mowers. I get to wear a helmet.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 02:16 PM (326rv)

266 "240 Who cares about Moore's lawyer? What's he charged with? Which crimes, which jurisdiction?

Oh, right.

Posted by: rhomboid"


The lawyer is writing preposterous threat letters to the media on behalf of Moore that are full of typos and other errors. Don't mean to pile on, but it is funny in a "shake your head" kind of way.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 15, 2017 02:16 PM (OD2ni)

267 249. Indeed. In the punchbowl of his jurisprudential output on this occasion, it was, in all fairness, only a smallish turd

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 02:16 PM (fA1SL)

268 I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)

269 Withhold it anyway. What the fuck are they gonna do?

And really? The big concern was over addicts getting Narcan? Really? Seems like a self-correcting problem to me.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (vg8iE)

270
Hillary? Is that you?

Posted by: Blue Hen
_______________

Even I'm not that stupid.....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (0mskG)

271 There is bloodletting going on in the thread below.
Carrots, chili and the smell of blood and pterodactyls everywhere.


Meh. Just another Daywalker Dumpster Fire (DDF). Nothing to report on here.

Posted by: Shep "Shep" Smith at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (ctuyM)

272 >>I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.



Been watching too many Spike Lee films.

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:18 PM (eCLUN)

273 I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)

----

Yo.... Davarius.

Ching Chong dont owe you no reparations.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:18 PM (8XRCm)

274 "Well that was fun. Just saw the press conference at UCLA held to allow the 3 players who shoplifted in China make their apologies. Among the people they thanked for getting them home was Trump.

That must sting.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM"


Good for them. Someone better check on Jemele Hill.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 15, 2017 02:18 PM (OD2ni)

275 I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.
========

I guess they forgot they weren't in the US anymore where any accusations could be deflected with a simple "OMG!1!! RACIST!!"

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 15, 2017 02:18 PM (vg8iE)

276 Fair point.


This ones real.


http://tinyurl.com/y973zsnf
Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:12 PM (8XRCm)

I actually like the photoshop one better.
Look at the faces of the people around him when he's near their children. Those smiles belie the eyes.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:18 PM (z79tQ)

277 Drudge now calling Roy Moore Judge Whore!

Posted by: Glenn John at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (LilNs)

278 259 "And the first passage you could find like that was on page 127 of 128? "

What is your fucking point?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (Tm5I3)

Dude....it's BSG.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (xJa6I)

279 269
Withhold it anyway. What the fuck are they gonna do?



And really? The big concern was over addicts getting Narcan? Really? Seems like a self-correcting problem to me.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (vg8iE)

Especially when you consider how many times an addict has been resuscitated by Narcan. Even in the same day.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (jxbfJ)

280 Joe Biden has the reputation--with us anyway--of being an idiot. Well, I saw that idiot win debates against Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan. Sarah held her own, but Biden spanked Ryan like a wayward ten-year-old. It was embarrassing to watch.

So no, Biden isn't stupid. He's just creepy and weird.

Posted by: troyriser at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (my7fr)

281 Hillary? Is that you?

Posted by: Blue Hen
_______________

Even I'm not that stupid.....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton

You were recorded laughing about tearing apart a 12 year old rape victim.

Yes you are.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (326rv)

282 Who cares about Moore's lawyer?

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Anyone who likes cringe comedy. Dude's got a gift for it.

Posted by: Jenny Likes Popcorn at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (SKaHS)

283 272 >>I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.



Been watching too many Spike Lee films.
Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:18 PM (eCLUN)

Seriously... Nike warmups.. stuffed full of House Special Lo Mein... what were they Thinking??...

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (pL6Vz)

284 The lawyer is writing preposterous threat letters to the media on behalf of Moore that are full of typos and other errors. Don't mean to pile on, but it is funny in a "shake your head" kind of way.

Wonder if he's the one behind the robo calls offering money to accuse Moore of bad beahavior.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (39g3+)

285 >>And really? The big concern was over addicts getting Narcan? Really? Seems like a self-correcting problem to me. Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (vg8iE)

Sounds like a Scientology Narconon growth opportunity to me.

"The United States has decided to sell Philadelphia to David Miscavage and the Scientology Church International. May Xenu have mercy on your souls. The Eagles eat a dick. Amen."

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (Bdeb0)

286 All illegals and refugees should be settled in this lawless judges neighborhood. Use eminent domain if need be to build projects.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (r9UYA)

287 Joe Biden has the reputation--with us anyway--of being an idiot. Well, I saw that idiot win debates against Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan. Sarah held her own, but Biden spanked Ryan like a wayward ten-year-old. It was embarrassing to watch.
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It's not so much that he clearly won, it's that he was proclaimed to have won by MiniTru.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (vg8iE)

288 And really? The big concern was over addicts getting Narcan? Really? Seems like a self-correcting problem to me.
Posted by: bicentennialguy



If addicts get free narcan because they have a disease, why don't those with cancer get free chemo?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (4Hf9E)

289 "268 I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor"


How about the mindset that California restricts travel to Texas and North Carolina by state employees but gladly sends its players to China.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (OD2ni)

290 I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)


Entitlement.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:21 PM (aMlLZ)

291 277 Drudge now calling Roy Moore Judge Whore!
Posted by: Glenn John at November 15, 2017 02:19 PM (LilNs)

Going to start calling him Roxanne... wearing that Red Dress....

Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 02:21 PM (pL6Vz)

292 secede!

Posted by: RayInFlyover at November 15, 2017 02:21 PM (F3Xo4)

293 Who cares about Moore's lawyer?

---

Anyone who likes cringe comedy. Dude's got a gift for it.
------------------------
Judge Moore hired Vinny Gambini for his lawyer?
(Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny)

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:21 PM (4XCge)

294 Posted by: Auscolpyr

Ugh gross. But he is excused as just being "Joe" like he is everyone's silly uncle.

Disgusting piece of shit for so many reasons.

Posted by: Cheri at November 15, 2017 02:22 PM (oiNtH)

295 As much as I'd like to see California and other states voluntarily extricate themselves from the United States, this wouldn't resolve any of the issues that appear to be adding up to some kind of schism. The notion of a "peaceable division" in this scenario would still leave us sizable populations of blues in otherwise red states.

Imagine Northern Ireland during the "troubles" only 1000X more violent and we'll have some idea of what a civil war in America would look like. And every foreign enemy we have would be lining up to assist the "resistance."

Posted by: Sirius at November 15, 2017 02:22 PM (LBO1U)

296 shibumi, huh?


Your presentation of the situation isn't even close to compelling, or interesting.


All these things can be dealt with. Not much time needed to address this issue in the way I've laid out, for months. I could do it by tomorrow.


Legislative language is easy, don't even need leg counsel's help, wrote such language many times, it's easy. ("No funds appropriated by this act under the XXXXX program shall be disbursed until the DHS and DOJ certify that the recipient jurisdiction is fully cooperating with all federal agencies in enforcement of immigration statutes and policies")


Reciprocity? Couple of staff meetings at DHS and DOJ, conference call with USATs.


Prosecutions against local officials? All the work is done by US attorneys' shops.


I happen to know not a single one of these things has been seriously considered. This lawless idiocy from the judge is the rebuke the administration deserves, esp. Sessions, for their weak and unserious approach.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (QDnY+)

297 Well known fact: fed grants always comes with strings.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM


Well, duh! On the street, a grant is known as a 'G'.

G strings!!! I have a bunch! Everyone I know does. Why is this news?

Posted by: Tiffani from Dallas at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (ctuyM)

298 I saw Joe Biden's Extra Hand open for Lothar and the Hand People, San Fran, 1969

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (ul9CR)

299 >>Judge Moore hired Vinny Gambini for his lawyer?

More like the stuttering public defender that was canned.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (/tuJf)

300 Going to start calling him Roxanne... wearing that Red Dress....
Posted by: kraken at November 15, 2017 02:21 PM (pL6Vz)

You don't have to put on the red light!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (ycWCI)

301 I still can't get past the mindset that let 7 foot tall black basketball players think they would be able to steal anything unnoticed in a land full or 5 foot tall Chinese.

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They're basketball player rocket surgeons.

Speaking of which, Jamele Hill is giving Trump no credit for this. He is still a white supremacist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (Nwg0u)

302 295. That's why they have to leave.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (fA1SL)

303 District court is nice, but the game is really played at the appellate level. That's what we need to pack with young conservatives.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:07 PM (FIdOt)

You're right. There are 18 vacancies with 8 nominations pending. Filling those 10 seats quickly is crucial.

Posted by: LASue at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (hZ+us)

304 Anyone who runs for public office now a days is looking for trouble...well if they are right wing at least

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (raaWN)

305 Joe Biden has the reputation--with us anyway--of being an idiot. Well, I saw that idiot win debates against Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan. Sarah held her own, but Biden spanked Ryan like a wayward ten-year-old. It was embarrassing to watch.

So no, Biden isn't stupid. He's just creepy and weird.
Posted by: troyriser

He's extremely stupid by most standards.

He did badly at school, did nothing outside of government, was a fish in a very little pond, and got by on fundraising, polemics, and being ruthless. For all his years in the Senate, he's done little, and is the epitome of a beltway bandit. People made shit up on him being brilliant, when he was on the wrong side of every major foreign policy decision (unilateral nuclear freeze, voting against Dessert Shield/Storm).

There's a reason why Obama liked him. He's an older version of the dear leader.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (326rv)

306 Do we have to make California secede? Within a few years I suspect they will vote to secede on their own so that they can become a province of Mexico.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (/qEW2)

307 It's not so much that he clearly won, it's that he was proclaimed to have won by MiniTru.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 15, 2017 02:20 PM (vg8iE)

No, Biden clearly beat Ryan in that debate--mainly because Ryan lacked confidence. The reason Ryan lacked confidence is because he lacks conviction. With Sarah it was different. He wasn't combative with her at all. He was genteel and warm, like a friendly uncle. And it worked.

Posted by: troyriser at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (my7fr)

308 Gowdy: Clinton Should Be Investigated, But We Haven't Met the Threshold for Appointing a Special Counsel
-BB

Sorry to disappoint the few Gowdy lovers here.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (r9UYA)

309 >>Speaking of which, Jamele Hill is giving Trump no credit for this.


She could give Sally Kohn a run for her stupidmoney.

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (eCLUN)

310 There's a reason I use the term "judicial coup". It's a precise, and apt, term. They've been usurping executive and legislative power for decades, but recently it's reached critical proportions. Congress has the power to fix all of it, but the topic has literally never been seriously discussed. The executive has the power to repudiate, but nobody near the levers of power has the smarts or character to try anything close to that responsible or useful.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (QDnY+)

I'd wouldn't want to argue your basic premise, but from my POV the Congress has been more than happy to offload their responsibilities to Executive . They've also been happy to have the Judiciary legislate (make rulings they agree with and deem it the law of the land) things too politically hot to handle.
Judges now are starting to feel their oats, wondering where the limit is.
As long as the media is on their side and neither of the other two legs of the stool stand up for themselves, they will continue.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:25 PM (z79tQ)

311 G strings!!! I have a bunch! Everyone I know does. Why is this news?
Posted by: Tiffani from Dallas at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (ctuyM)

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Dats reel retarted .... maaaaaaam.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at November 15, 2017 02:25 PM (8XRCm)

312
Yes you are.

You were recorded laughing about tearing apart a 12 year old rape victim.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden

___________________

That was different because,, reasons. Oh, and shut up Joe. I'll beat your ass silly in the 2020 primaries....

~throws ashtray~

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 15, 2017 02:25 PM (0mskG)

313 There should be penalties for Judges who get overturned. Tar and Feathers at least, although I am on board with them being drawn and quartered also...but hey that's just me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 02:25 PM (raaWN)

314 :::somewhere in an office strewn with Doritos bags, Steve SmoothieKing Bannon quietly takes the phone off the hook, turns out the light, and crawls under the desk with his blender:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 02:25 PM (QBsU+)

315 I mean its a staple with black comedians: every time we go into some Asian guy's shop he follows us around to make sure we aren't stealing!

So they go to CHINA the homeland of Asian shopkeepers, and try to steal??? Just how incredibly stupid do you have to be??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (39g3+)

316 As I understand it (and please correct me if I'm wrong) but this ruling applies to appropriations already approved. So, why not just detail the next appropriation bill to exclude those cities in violation of federal law? In other words, an actual bill that specifically outlines where the funds are applied and in what fashion.

Posted by: Orson at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (8e/nd)

317 >>Speaking of which, Jamele Hill is giving Trump no credit for this.


Her hero Obama, on the other hand...

Obama was more than happy to let non-baskeball players die in foreign prison

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (eCLUN)

318 Moore needs to see this through. A shitload is riding on it. Its more than just a senate seat.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (aMlLZ)

319 Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM
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You are 100% right.

I'll go back to Little Green Footballs and lick my wounds.

Posted by: shibumi at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (aT+Bx)

320 "No, Biden clearly beat Ryan in that debate--mainly because Ryan lacked confidence. The reason Ryan lacked confidence is because he lacks conviction. With Sarah it was different. He wasn't combative with her at all. He was genteel and warm, like a friendly uncle. And it worked.
Posted by: troyriser"


Agreed. He was playing prevent defense with Sarah so it was a very close debate. With Ryan, the race was a dead heat so Biden was under pressure to perform and he did.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (OD2ni)

321 Legislative language is easy, don't even need leg
counsel's help, wrote such language many times, it's easy. ("No funds
appropriated by this act under the XXXXX program shall be disbursed
until the DHS and DOJ certify that the recipient jurisdiction is fully
cooperating with all federal agencies in enforcement of immigration
statutes and policies") Reciprocity? Couple of staff meetings at DHS and DOJ, conference call with USATs. Prosecutions against local officials? All the work is done by US attorneys' shops. I
happen to know not a single one of these things has been seriously
considered. This lawless idiocy from the judge is the rebuke the
administration deserves, esp. Sessions, for their weak and unserious
approach. Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:23 PM (QDnY+)
=====

THIS

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (MIKMs)

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Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (Enq6K)

323 So no, Biden isn't stupid. He's just creepy and weird.

He didn't win by cleverness. He won by acting like he was ripped on goofballs and partially retarded to begin with. That's not some evidence of his intellect.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)

324 Drudge now calling Roy Moore Judge Whore!

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Drudge is apparently no economist. He doesn't understand basic financial transactions.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (Nwg0u)

325 If addicts get free Narcan....why don't cancer patients get free chemo

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The short answer is that Narcan is an emergency stabilizing treatment, and chemo is not. The long answer involves the weird game we play over whether Narcan is "really" free because JimBob is going to get a bill for it (which will never be paid but whatevs) and a walk through subsidized cancer treatments as they exist.

Now whether sanctuary cities should have to quit their bullshit or go without federally-funded Narcan is a whole different argument.

Posted by: Jenny Likes Popcorn at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (SKaHS)

326 >>So they go to CHINA the homeland of Asian shopkeepers, and try to steal??? Just how incredibly stupid do you have to be??


Stupid and arrogant, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (W+vEI)

327
I was ensorcelled by this relatively, kinda newish thread.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2017 02:28 PM (NyJwR)

328 There should be penalties for Judges who get overturned. Tar and Feathers at least, although I am on board with them being drawn and quartered also...but hey that's just me
Posted by: Nevergiveup



I have said before, 3 overturns on established law simply because you blew it or didn't like the outcome, and you are off the bench, never to work in law again.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:28 PM (4Hf9E)

329
brb changin mah socks

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

330 Senior United States District Judge Michael Baylson was a founder, and later counsel, to Gaudenzia, Inc., the largest non-profit provider of drug, alcohol and mental health rehabilitation services in Pennsylvania. Gaudenzia Inc (New Image Women and Children) is a drug or alcohol rehabilitation center with a primary focus on mental health and substance abuse treatment based at 1300 East Tulpehocken Street in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Serving about 17,000 individuals annually, Gaudenzia operates 161 drug
and alcohol treatment programs at 90 facilities for men and women in
Pennsylvania, Maryland and Delaware.

Posted by: Viator at November 15, 2017 02:28 PM (Ueq18)

331 >>He didn't win by cleverness. He won by acting like he was ripped on goofballs and partially retarded to begin with. That's not some evidence of his intellect.

Who says he won? The media?

I thought he looked and sounded like a retard. He did nothing but lie, laugh and grin luck a fucking loon.

If that's the new definition of winning we are doomed.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:29 PM (/tuJf)

332 How about the mindset that California restricts travel to Texas and North Carolina by state employees but gladly sends its players to China.

Or the NCAA that refused a tournament game in a state over Tranny bathrooms but helps players go to China....

Just idiotic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:29 PM (39g3+)

333 exactly, how many divisions does this penis pumping judge have? time to partay.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (KP5rU)


Until old "Snooze and Recuse" wakes up or until Teh Donald has assholes like this dragged out of their offices and publicly tarred and feathered, he could have a division of toy army men and still win.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 15, 2017 02:29 PM (kqsXK)

334 Biden was the Cliff Claven of the senate.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:29 PM (aMlLZ)

335 >>Obama was more than happy to let non-baskeball players die in foreign prison

Or beheaded by ISIS...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 15, 2017 02:29 PM (W+vEI)

336 So they go to CHINA the homeland of Asian shopkeepers, and try to steal??? Just how incredibly stupid do you have to be??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (39g3+)

---------------------------------------
Does that rank above or below telling the world media you were robbed by Rio (home of police death squads) police when reality is that you were destructive at a gas station and paid off the security guard?
It's who we are.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (5NMZN)

337 Who says he won? The media?

I agree, I don't think he won. At most it was a push: Ryan was listless and dull, Biden looked like a gibbering idiot. Nobody voted for Obama over that debate. Nobody voted for Romney over that debate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (39g3+)

338 307 No, Biden clearly beat Ryan in that debate--mainly because Ryan lacked confidence. The reason Ryan lacked confidence is because he lacks conviction. With Sarah it was different. He wasn't combative with her at all. He was genteel and warm, like a friendly uncle. And it worked.

Posted by: troyriser at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (my7fr)


And Biden didn't even have to say a word to Ryan. All he did was to scoff and give snide, sarcastic, dismissive facial expressions.

It's the typical way a Leftist carries themselves, and somehow it always works.

Posted by: Hikaru at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (WDCYi)

339 UCLA freshmen LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill have been suspended indefinitely after returning from a China trip where they were held for shoplifting.

They will have to earn their way back, UCLA coach Steve Alford said in a news conference Wednesday.



Alford said that the players will not travel, will not suit up for road games or take part in practice while the school performs a review of the situation.

LOL...If the suspension lasts a week I'll be shocked. Any over under bets?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (raaWN)

340 Tami that's great
so we can send checks to that bank account?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (hMwEB)

341 Sonobi is the Judge of Judges.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (NWiLs)

342 Biden's not quite as dumb as McCain, but close. And very creepy, but more in the oily slimy ruthless fashion (the weirdness with women wasn't on display when I observed him up close for years). A pretty classic, shallow Beltway scumbag.



Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (QDnY+)

343 as part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose

Which, as we all know, is ingrained in the Constitution in Article 4,506(a).

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (B+qrE)

344 Have these assholes been kicked off of the team yet?

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (2Mnv1)

345 Senior United States District Judge Michael Baylson was a founder, and later counsel, to Gaudenzia, Inc., the largest non-profit provider of drug, alcohol and mental health rehabilitation services in Pennsylvania.




No conflict of interest there.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (4Hf9E)

346 315 I mean its a staple with black comedians: every time we go into some Asian guy's shop he follows us around to make sure we aren't stealing!

So they go to CHINA the homeland of Asian shopkeepers, and try to steal??? Just how incredibly stupid do you have to be??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:26 PM (39g3+)

I'm literally LOL now.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (7HtZB)

347 341 Sonobi is the Judge of Judges.
Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (NWiLs)

And the Sonobi cult grows.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (ycWCI)

348 He didn't win by cleverness. He won by acting like he was ripped on goofballs and partially retarded to begin with. That's not some evidence of his intellect.

Who says he won? The media?

I thought he looked and sounded like a retard. He did nothing but lie, laugh and grin luck a fucking loon.

If that's the new definition of winning we are doomed.
Posted by: JackStraw

This.

In a similar manner, he "defeated" Judge Robert Bork. He was a liar, obtuse, and tried glad-handing Borks' wife who watched the shit show.

Vicious idiot is the best description I've seen of Biden.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (326rv)

349 343 as part of it is used by first responders who provide life-saving naloxone to victims of opioid overdose

Which, as we all know, is ingrained in the Constitution in Article 4,506(a).
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (B+qrE)

Nope, it's a tax.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy Roberts at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (72PAC)

350 McCain doesn't strike me as dumb, he strikes me as sinister. Like, the guy who twirls his moustache and takes the family farm, then ties the heroine to the train tracks to distract the hero.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (39g3+)

351 Really, I think the only thing that could have motivated Obama into helping a US Citizen (who was incarerated overseas) would be their status in future NBA Drafts or the excuse to send a Ransom Payment to the Iranian Mullahs.

Posted by: garrett at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (eCLUN)

352 Jemele Hill said "I'm off today." and to a taunt that she would find reporting this stressful, she said "Not really."

Nowhere did she say she wasn't giving Trump credit and she didn't call him a white supremicist...this time.

The headlines that right-wing sites come up with aren't always completely truthful, same as left wing sites.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 15, 2017 02:31 PM (ul9CR)

353 Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 15, 2017 02:15 PM (Tm5I3)

This isn't very difficult to understand, Rob. That quote is from the conclusion section, where you expect a relatively succinct description of the legal basis for the decision. You do not find that, florid prose aside. If your point is that the judge is correct, please go make that point. If you think he's wrong, make that point.

I was explicit in my first comment that I don't know if the legal analysis by the judge is good or not. It may be extremely thoughtful and thorough. I was clear in my first comment that the problem is that is not easy to tell without reading the entire opinion. This is based on my reading other sections I think should be more definitive than they are too. It's not that I had to go to page 127 to find an opaque passage. I could post innumerable sections that are intelligible in their own right and yet not at all clarifying as to the disposition of the case.

Posted by: Crispian at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (wbYF0)

354 Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 02:25 PM

Dude, you're approaching mafketel, if not klefezooi, status here.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (ctuyM)

355 Sonobi is the Judge of Judges.


Trial by Sonobi was good enough for the times of Hebrews, it's good enough to settle disputes now.

Posted by: Bander proctoring a test at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (WZG6Y)

356 Establishment Leaders Urge Rush to Huge, Expensive, Open-Ended Amnesty -BB

Posted by: GOP-Watch Our Left Hand at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (r9UYA)

357 Jemele Hill hates whitey. Perfect fit foe espn. Feeling is mutual, biotch.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (KP5rU)

358
And Biden didn't even have to say a word to Ryan. All he did was to scoff and give snide, sarcastic, dismissive facial expressions.

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He's stealing my moves!

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (7HtZB)

359
I call upon the superior minds of the military experts in the horde and the normally lurking spooks to identify the armored personnel carrier in this picture from Zimbabwe. I'm just curious as who is supplying the military with armor. Who is the arms dealer supplying Zimbabwe, and how the hell are they paying for the weapons.

breitbart.com
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycwqvs42

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (4XCge)

360 340 Tami that's great
so we can send checks to that bank account?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 15, 2017 02:30 PM (hMwEB)


Yes, you can.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (Enq6K)

361 He's extremely stupid by most standards.

He did badly at school, did nothing outside of government, was a fish in a very little pond, and got by on fundraising, polemics, and being ruthless. For all his years in the Senate, he's done little, and is the epitome of a beltway bandit. People made shit up on him being brilliant, when he was on the wrong side of every major foreign policy decision (unilateral nuclear freeze, voting against Dessert Shield/Storm).

There's a reason why Obama liked him. He's an older version of the dear leader.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 15, 2017 02:24 PM (326rv)


You forgot to mention the best part -- why so many credit card companies set up camp in Delaware -- because he was well aware they were going to screw the American consumer and he didn't give One Shit.

I've gone without a credit card for more than two decades because of that Piece of Shit.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (ajiE5)

362 So no, Biden isn't stupid. He's just creepy and weird.

He didn't win by cleverness. He won by acting like he was ripped on goofballs and partially retarded to begin with. That's not some evidence of his intellect.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)


*laughs uproariously*

*rolls eyes*

*shakes head*

*laughs again*

*shakes head again*


53.7% of all Americans disagree with Christopher R Taylor.

*points finger*

And 89.3% think you'd do a lousy job taking in the waistline on their pants.

*laughs*

*shakes head*

*rolls eyes*

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (NyJwR)

363 from the sidebar

Building a battery for a Tesla car spews as much CO2 as 8 years of driving a regular car.
That calculation isn't counting the emissions from generating the electricty to charge the battery!
[ArthurK]


no kidding

Electric cars are not environmentally sound,
they never were.
The building of parts, building the car, the battery, and the worst part, disposing of the battery is worse than petrol cars.

But it can be cheaper to own by some people. The cost of the cars have gone way down, many petrol cars are much more expensive, and it puts a damper on the Middle East stranglehold.

If you live in an area of hydro-electric power, it can be much cheaper than gas. Cost to own.

The greenies won't admit the "damage" it does to the environment. Just like the whacko's on Tucker, who think killing coal saves the world, where as Tucker pointed out, just kills millions more people dependent on it in 3rd world countries.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2017 02:34 PM (fceHP)

364 IF this judge is correct then why is Roy's Ten Commandment wrong? Maybe its time we all go our own way. NY can pay for NY, dittos CA, IL, NJ and MA, and the rest of us will just do all our trading, manufacturing and living under our own rules. Basically - GFY Blue State Cocksuckers.

Posted by: Pudding Head at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM (YV+SU)

365 359
I call upon the superior minds of the military experts in the horde and the normally lurking spooks to identify the armored personnel carrier in this picture from Zimbabwe. I'm just curious as who is supplying the military with armor. Who is the arms dealer supplying Zimbabwe, and how the hell are they paying for the weapons.

breitbart.com
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycwqvs42
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (4XCge)

It looks like a Chinese Type 63 - China is the main arms supplier to Zimbabwe

Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

366 Off sock

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

367 If that's the new definition of winning we are doomed.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:29 PM (/tuJf)

Uh...yeah. It is and we are.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM (z79tQ)

368 So they go to CHINA the homeland of Asian shopkeepers, and try to steal??? Just how incredibly stupid do you have to be??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


A black lady from Africa who was very successful moved to Southern California when I was living there. She opened a store which sold items much like a 7-11. She closed it down after a year because of theft from the black community in Los Angeles. She couldn't take it anymore and said that it happened not only daily but every hour. She moved back home. Of course her story will never be told beyond me.

Posted by: Cheri at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (oiNtH)

369 If you live in an area of hydro-electric power, it can be much cheaper than gas.

-----

?????


Those assholes get to top off for FREE at the grocery store, Walmarts, even City parks here.


I try to park my truck in *their* spots whenever I can.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (8XRCm)

370 It looks like a Chinese Type 63 - China is the main arms supplier to Zimbabwe
Posted by: Jon Stewart at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

366 Off sock
Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

Clown nose off.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (ycWCI)

371 Breaking Trump news from CNN!

CNN Runs Segment on Dog's Ear That 'Looks Like' Trump

http://bit.ly/2z4om62

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (Nwg0u)

372 Thank you all!

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 02:27 PM (Enq6K)
Tami - do we make the check out to 'Meals for Rick L'?

Posted by: IC at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

373 Jon Stewart at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM

Thank you. I seem to recall that the Chinese were interested in mining rights but I can't remember the details.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (4XCge)

374 Tell the judge that we (the Feds) don't have the money. Period.


Cut judges' pay to help make ends meet.

In fact, fund all of the judges' favorite programs through cuts in their salaries, staffs, and perks (if any).

Pretty soon they'll be hawks on this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:37 PM (FIdOt)

375 call upon the superior minds of the military
experts in the horde and the normally lurking spooks to identify the
armored personnel carrier in this picture from Zimbabwe. I'm just
curious as who is supplying the military with armor. Who is the arms
dealer supplying Zimbabwe, and how the hell are they paying for the
weapons.



breitbart.com

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycwqvs42

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (4XCge)

------------------------------------------------------
Looks like Chines Type 85 or a turret-less Type 86 to me.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 02:37 PM (5NMZN)

376 371 Breaking Trump news from CNN!

CNN Runs Segment on Dog's Ear That 'Looks Like' Trump

http://bit.ly/2z4om62
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (Nwg0u)

Cnn morphed into Weekly World News so fast that, well, everyone noticed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 15, 2017 02:38 PM (ycWCI)

377 Skandia, Type 63 Chicom POS

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 02:38 PM (9TU00)

378 Orson that's exactly what I've been proposing. It's absolutely not anything clever or insightful - it's obvious to anyone familiar with how federal $ are used to enforce law and policy.


And I know that those in a position to do this have not considered it.


This ruling is the perfect train wreck. Let's see if Congress or the administration do anything serious from this point.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 15, 2017 02:38 PM (QDnY+)

379 I saw news of Robert Mugabe's house arrest, and I read it gleefully as Robert Mueller's house arrest.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 02:38 PM (tbOMB)

380 A black lady from Africa who was very successful moved to Southern California when I was living there. She opened a store which sold items much like a 7-11. She closed it down after a year because of theft from the black community in Los Angeles. She couldn't take it anymore and said that it happened not only daily but every hour. She moved back home.


She was rayciss! H8ter!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (FIdOt)

381 ACE I HAVE BROUGHT YOU THE BROOM OF THE WITCH
Posted by: Sure




You're giving Ace Hillary's black med van?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (4Hf9E)

382 He's stealing my moves!
Posted by: Jon Stewart


Stewart, when he had clown nose on, he reminded me of the girls in silent movies. You know, the ones that had like 12 stock faces they would pull, one for each occasion. That was the extent of their "acting" OK sweet tits, show me that shocked face! OK now do the coy shy face! Now the happy face! OK CUT!

Jon Steward had his set of reactions he'd pull, it was like a chimp with memorized reactions. There was the "seriously listening" face, the "disgusted response while I tap the table with cards" face, the "look of surprise" face, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (39g3+)

383 >>I'm just curious as who is supplying the military with armor. Who is the arms dealer supplying Zimbabwe,
: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (4XCge)

China.

>>and how the hell are they paying for the weapons

They're not. But they will.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (Bdeb0)

384 RioBravo at November 15, 2017 02:37 PM

Thank you.

Chinese was the word I was looking for.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (4XCge)

385 376 call upon the superior minds of the military
experts in the horde and the normally lurking spooks to identify the
armored personnel carrier in this picture from Zimbabwe. I'm just
curious as who is supplying the military with armor. Who is the arms
dealer supplying Zimbabwe, and how the hell are they paying for the
weapons.



breitbart.com

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycwqvs42

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:33 PM (4XCge)

------------------------------------------------------
Looks like Chines Type 85 or a turret-less Type 86 to me.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 02:37 PM (5NMZN)

You're probably right, the one pictured in the article has a more pointed front end than does the Type 63.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 02:40 PM (7HtZB)

386 382
ACE I HAVE BROUGHT YOU THE BROOM OF THE WITCH

Posted by: Sure









You're giving Ace Hillary's black med van?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (4Hf9E)

Just don't sit in the driver side passenger seat. Hillary's depends leaked a little.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 15, 2017 02:40 PM (jxbfJ)

387 Biden and McCain are both creeps and snide ass snakes they just do it differently. Biden with his wide grinning maw and Mc Cain with his stern grimace. Both are shits and use their association military/family as props.

Posted by: Cheri at November 15, 2017 02:40 PM (oiNtH)

388 >>Stewart, when he had clown nose on, he reminded me of the girls in silent movies. You know, the ones that had like 12 stock faces they would pull, one for each occasion. That was the extent of their "acting" OK sweet tits, show me that shocked face! OK now do the coy shy face! Now the happy face! OK CUT! Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:39 PM (39g3+)

In other words, Simple Jack.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:40 PM (Bdeb0)

389 >>>Dude, you're approaching mafketel, if not klefezooi, status here.

Ben je Kringspiermusketier?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (QBsU+)

390 >>In other words, Simple Jack.


Hey!

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (/tuJf)

391 374
Jon Stewart at November 15, 2017 02:35 PM



Thank you. I seem to recall that the Chinese were interested in mining rights but I can't remember the details.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (4XCge)


Probably in an article about rare earth elements, if we are thinking about the same thing.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (tbOMB)

392 The left won't come to their senses on any one of these issues until they have no other choice, like with Clinton.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (LISuA)

393 I have a book, "Mugabe's War Machine", I should probably read that after I'm finished with my current book.

Posted by: josephistan at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (7HtZB)

394 A black lady from Africa who was very successful moved to Southern California when I was living there. She opened a store which sold items much like a 7-11. She closed it down after a year because of theft from the black community in Los Angeles. She couldn't take it anymore and said that it happened not only daily but every hour. She moved back home.

According to Hugh Thomas's "The Slave Trade," slaves were originally the ne-er-do-wells, troublemakers, and criminals in their own tribes that the chief (and the rest of the tribe) were only too happy to get rid of. Imagine Martians came down and offered us $5 million for each asshole in San Quentin. That was pretty much how they viewed the deal. Win-win.

Only later did the coastal tribes start the raffias, going inland to kidnap people from other tribes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (FIdOt)

395 I've mentioned before - comes warlording times, my mech infantry will be equipped with such vehicles and their Soviet & Jugo equivalents. I want to convey my contempt by deliberately using inferior gear to grind the nouveaux peasantry.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (fA1SL)

396 I remember reading somewhere that China has been busy colonizing Africa for awhile now - and nobody says anything about it because whitey can't be blamed so who cares.

In the meantime China gets its hands on precious metals, diamonds, whatever African dictators have to offer for bribes to themselves and their families.

Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (EBwPV)

397 If you live in an area of hydro-electric power, it can be much cheaper than gas. Cost to own.

Until you have to replace those batteries. 6-10 years, according to the manufacturer. Ever wonder why you never see any old Priuses on the road?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)

398 speaking of California, i did some avocado
research recently and discovered they go 2 for $1 in my area...we get a lot of fruit from California for some reason, even oranges and peaches. so i am concerned if California secedes from the Union, fruit prices will become unbearable. There will be shortages and such...may lead to civil unrest and fruit hoarding...

Posted by: runner at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (QC/4S)

399 Judge Moore hired Vinny Gambini for his lawyer?

More like the stuttering public defender that was canned.
=======
they actor they hired for that - improv 'ed that.

nobody knew what he was going to do until it was rolling. They had stop a bunch of times because the crew couldn't stop laughing.

They took a lot of grief from the association for stutterers or some such. It was too funny to cut out.

Posted by: simplemind at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (8bQ5N)

400
You're giving Ace Hillary's black med van?

Posted by: rickb223
___________________

Ask Ace if he will take a quick peek inside. I'm missing a right shoe, black, size 10.....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (0mskG)

401 377 371 Breaking Trump news from CNN!

CNN Runs Segment on Dog's Ear That 'Looks Like' Trump "

Hillary looks like dog's ass but that's not breaking news....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (ZM2xo)

402 Stewart, when he had clown nose on, he reminded me of the girls in silent movies. You know, the ones that had like 12 stock faces they would pull, one for each occasion. That was the extent of their "acting" OK sweet tits, show me that shocked face! OK now do the coy shy face! Now the happy face! OK CUT!


I am a glistening, shimmering star in the musical firmament!

Posted by: Lena Lamont at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (326rv)

403 Wiki only shows that Zimbabwe has the Type 63 (as others have id'd it above) but the number of wheels does not match. Maybe there are multiple versions.

Posted by: RioBravo at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (5NMZN)

404 Electric cars are not environmentally sound,
they never were.
The building of parts, building the car, the battery, and the worst part, disposing of the battery is worse than petrol cars.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2017 02:34 PM (fceHP)


This battery crap has a long looong way to go. They are marketing lithium batteries for Harleys, and the things don't even have the power to run the starter. I ripped out a few for people who bought into the bullshit, and put normal batteries in the bikes and they were fine after. Probably why you need a shitload of them to run an electric car motor.

When I was on tesla's site a little while ago they were talking about an upgraded battery. It was 10K if you didn't get the car yet, but if you already had the car it was 20K for the upgrade because of "disposal costs" of the old battery.

10K to get rid of a battery. They can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (aMlLZ)

405 According to Hugh Thomas's "The Slave Trade," slaves were originally the ne-er-do-wells, troublemakers, and criminals in their own tribes that the chief (and the rest of the tribe) were only too happy to get rid of. Imagine Martians came down and offered us $5 million for each asshole in San Quentin. That was pretty much how they viewed the deal. Win-win.

Only later did the coastal tribes start the raffias, going inland to kidnap people from other tribes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (FIdOt)

Sounds like Australia.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (aCNZ6)

406 Chinese are all over east africa

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (9TU00)

407 >>>Posted by: Crispian at November 15, 2017 02:32 PM (wbYF0)

What amazes me are the errors in the paragraph you cite:

"and Salome, the title character demands the head of St. John the Baptist as a condition to dance for King Herod."

Salome never demanded John's head as a condition of the dance. She danced, he was pleased, and afterwards demanded his head, after Herod gave her carte blanche.

I somehow doubt this is analogous in any way to the situation between Philadelphia and the Federal government. But I suppose the Bible, like the Constitution is a "living document", meaning that the words and meaning are a malleable, squishy mess, much like an overripe banana.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (/qEW2)

408 >>they actor they hired for that - improv 'ed that.

>>nobody knew what he was going to do until it was rolling. They had stop a bunch of times because the crew couldn't stop laughing.

>>They took a lot of grief from the association for stutterers or some such. It was too funny to cut out.

That could be a review of Moore's attorney's interview.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (/tuJf)

409 >>In other words, Simple Jack.


Hey!
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (/tuJf)

Hey!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (z79tQ)

410 I try to park my truck in *their* spots whenever I can.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (8XRCm)


I always try to be a good person. Why bother?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (fceHP)

411 Until you have to replace those batteries. 6-10 years, according to the manufacturer. Ever wonder why you never see any old Priuses on the road?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)

I actually miss seeing older cars on the road, between cash for clunkers and poor metal treatment on older vehicles, it seems like we have lost a lot of visual flavor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (ycWCI)

412 376 call upon the superior minds of the military experts in the horde and the normally lurking spooks to identify the armored personnel carrier in this picture from Zimbabwe. I'm just curious as who is supplying the military with armor. Who is the arms dealer supplying Zimbabwe, and how the hell are they paying for the
weapons.



I'm wondering who turned out Robert Mugabe. Snappy dresser. Just the thing to wear to a dog fight.

http://tinyurl.com/y7jt7p6a

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:45 PM (FIdOt)

413 Also the Central Valley, Inland Empire, and parts of SoCal (south of LA), although the liberal infestation is going strong here now.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:09 PM (FIdOt)

I live in the Central Valley and used to call us an island of conservatism surrounded by an ocean of liberalism.

Well, unfortunately, the ocean has pretty much eroded away the island over the last few years.

Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017 02:45 PM (qC1Sy)

414 A black lady from Africa who was very successful moved to Southern California when I was living there. She opened a store which sold items much like a 7-11. She closed it down after a year because of theft from the black community in Los Angeles. She couldn't take it anymore and said that it happened not only daily but every hour. She moved back home.

-
What a shame that she was denied the American dream because she unknowingly moved into the 'hood.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 02:46 PM (Nwg0u)

415 Gropey nood

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 15, 2017 02:46 PM (fA1SL)

416 Writer John Grisham thinks men who are busted for watching child pornography are getting a bum rap insisting that theyre mostly good guys who are being unfairly jailed as if they were a bunch of perverts.

We have prisons now filled with guys my age. Sixty-year-old white men in prison whove never harmed anybody, would never touch a child, he told the Telegraph in an interview this week to promote his new novel, Grey Mountain.

But they got online one night and started surfing around, probably had too much to drink or whatever, and pushed the wrong buttons, went too far and got into child porn.

Yeah i am sure...Just liike the rapist who said " But I only tripped and fell on top of her"?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 02:46 PM (raaWN)

417 they actor they hired for that - improv 'ed that.

nobody knew what he was going to do until it was rolling. They had stop a bunch of times because the crew couldn't stop laughing.

They took a lot of grief from the association for stutterers or some such. It was too funny to cut out.

Posted by: simplemind at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (8bQ5N)


Wasn't that actor the guy - the commie who was going to be executed - from "The Front Page" (the second version, I think)? I'm probably mistaken on that ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2017 02:46 PM (8gDQu)

418 >>Only later did the coastal tribes start the raffias, going inland to kidnap people from other tribes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:41 PM (FIdOt)

(adjusts cravat, raises chin) Chez Zod operates on similar principles, old boy.

Posted by: Zod at November 15, 2017 02:46 PM (Bdeb0)

419 I live in the Central Valley and used to call us an island of conservatism surrounded by an ocean of liberalism.

Well, unfortunately, the ocean has pretty much eroded away the island over the last few years.
Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017 02:45 PM (qC1Sy)


San Diego is like that too. Lots of people moving here. The most common place of origin? The Bay Area. Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:47 PM (FIdOt)

420 More ammo.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 15, 2017 02:47 PM (398bZ)

421 10K to get rid of a battery. They can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at November 15, 2017 02:43 PM (aMlLZ)



It's going cost of smug these days.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 15, 2017 02:48 PM (tbOMB)

422 They took a lot of grief from the association for stutterers or some such. It was too funny to cut out.

Posted by: simplemind

One of my favorite movies.....that scene was hysterical

Posted by: Cheri at November 15, 2017 02:48 PM (oiNtH)

423
Philly can't buy their own damned naloxone?

Posted by: w at November 15, 2017 01:26 PM (vhrlk)

Let the junkies croak. They are bent on slow suicide, anyway, or they wouldn't be junkies. Why should law enforcement save their sorry asses, only to have do it again a month or two down the road?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 02:49 PM (oPNmq)

424 Yeah i am sure...Just liike the rapist who said " But I only tripped and fell on top of her"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2017 02:46 PM (raaWN)


Yeah, no sale. I don't think anybody gets busted for accidental connection with kiddie porn. I believe to get busted you pretty much need to have an extensive track record and collection. Then you go to the head of the class.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:49 PM (FIdOt)

425 Until you have to replace those batteries. 6-10 years, according to the manufacturer. Ever wonder why you never see any old Priuses on the road?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 15, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)


yeah, it's kind of like computers (esp if you are gamer), you toss them in a year, or two, for a car 3-4 years old, or when the warranties start to run out if you can. Those that keep current on new technologies always pay the price, but they know they do.

I've always been one to chase new technologies, so I know the score. My car is not electric, but my husband's is. Mine is the utility vehicle, AWD. Big'un. But the other is nice to never put gas in.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2017 02:50 PM (fceHP)

426 Rush has gone from selling No Boundaries Ties to Un-Tuck-It shirts. LOL

Posted by: Under Fire at November 15, 2017 02:50 PM (r9UYA)

427 Why make it a defined policy, just lose their application a dozen times.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2017 01:31 PM (9TU00)

Keep sending back with errors circled in red pencil.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 02:51 PM (oPNmq)

428 What a shame that she was denied the American dream because she unknowingly moved into the 'hood.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Absolutely. She came here with the dream of supporting the black community in the USA and provide a service and jobs. She ended up going home disgusted and with a definite change of mind.

Posted by: Cheri at November 15, 2017 02:51 PM (oiNtH)

429 Tami - do we make the check out to 'Meals for Rick L'?

Posted by: IC at November 15, 2017 02:36 PM (a0IVu)


Yep

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2017 02:52 PM (Enq6K)

430 Anybody have a link to the decision? It's not even on the court's website yet.

Posted by: Insomniac - El Perdedor at November 15, 2017 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

431 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 15, 2017 02:44 PM (/qEW2)

That is something I wager too many people would pick up on (I certainly had no clue).

Posted by: Crispian at November 15, 2017 02:53 PM (wbYF0)

432 San Diego is like that too. Lots of people moving here. The most common place of origin? The Bay Area. Yow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:47 PM (FIdOt)

My wife and I plan on moving to Texas if at all possible.

I've told people I plan to move there because, A. Texas is big enough to survive on its own if the USA falls apart and, B. liberals won't move to Texas because they react to Texas like a vampire reacts to holy water.

Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017 02:54 PM (qC1Sy)

433 Just like our former first lady!

Mugabe's "wife, dubbed Gucci Grace for her love of shopping"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 15, 2017 02:54 PM (Nwg0u)

434 Drudge quotes/links Alec Baldwin as saying its not possible to be too mean to Trump. Of course this is the guy who called one daughter a whore and another a "daughter-of-a-bitch pig" in a profanity laced phone message when she missed a phone call with him.

In Baldwin-world, of course, everyone else in the world that he meets deserves full on spotlight-level anger and meanness, but Trump (he says) should get special treatment.


Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 15, 2017 02:55 PM (LISuA)

435 My wife and I plan on moving to Texas if at all possible.

I've told people I plan to move there because, A. Texas is big enough to survive on its own if the USA falls apart and, B. liberals won't move to Texas because they react to Texas like a vampire reacts to holy water.
Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017

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I'd move there, except (a) hot nearly all the time, and (b) no mountains. Though if things in America keep going the way they are, I may have to toss both points.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 15, 2017 02:55 PM (QYQV7)

436 Hopefully it provides some perspective on who you are talk g about divorcing from.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus (No Smoothies) at November 15, 2017 01:36 PM (QBsU+)

The Swamp corrupts even the good people. And the good-for-nothings, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2017 02:56 PM (oPNmq)

437 San Diego is like that too. Lots of people moving here. The most common place of origin? The Bay Area. Yow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:47 PM (FIdOt)

On another note: Looking forward to your first fabulous gay pride parade?

Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017 02:56 PM (qC1Sy)

438 359 Chinese type 80 series. Others beat me to it. It's china's footprint in Africa as they are expanding their influence and buying/locking up those minerals for their industries and any future war effort.

Posted by: morigu at November 15, 2017 02:57 PM (8bzCU)

439 We just need to admit the truth: there is NO "rule of law" in the United States. Period.

Posted by: Catch Thirty Thr33 at November 15, 2017 02:57 PM (u0f7+)

440 I'd move there, except (a) hot nearly all the time, and (b) no mountains. Though if things in America keep going the way they are, I may have to toss both points.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 15, 2017 02:55 PM (QYQV7)

I hear that.

We'd try AZ or NV but both of those states are becoming infested with liberals also.

Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017 02:59 PM (qC1Sy)

441 I can see Ace with one of those hobo bags tied to a stick walking to the new country.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2017 01:26 PM
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It's called a bindle. (Just happens to be one of my favorite words.)

Posted by: IrishEi at November 15, 2017 02:59 PM (HiDrR)

442 http://tinyurl.com/y7jt7p6a

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:45 PM

Thank you, that is a good article in the Daily Mail.
Odd, now that I think of it, that China is so rarely mentioned in news coverage of Zimbabwe.

At least I don't remember making the connection.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Unperson at November 15, 2017 02:59 PM (4XCge)

443 Baylson was a founder, and later counsel, to Gaudenzia, Inc., the largest non-profit provider of drug, alcohol and mental health rehabilitation services in Pennsylvania.

--According to Wikipedia

A Bush appointee

Posted by: Fake at November 15, 2017 03:45 PM (eypV6)

444 So the reason the feds can't withhold funding from a city breaking the law, is because they need the funding to save the lives of people in that city who are at risk of dying because they chose to engage in an illegal act...wtf is wrong with the world?

Posted by: pete at November 15, 2017 03:53 PM (meg+g)

445 "Peaceable division"? Leftists never bargain in good faith. We could try, but in the end it will likely be necessary to hammer these fuckers down like nails.

Posted by: Monty James at November 15, 2017 05:19 PM (gKOMX)

446 432 San Diego is like that too. Lots of people moving here. The most common place of origin? The Bay Area. Yow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 15, 2017 02:47 PM (FIdOt)

My wife and I plan on moving to Texas if at all possible.

I've told people I plan to move there because, A. Texas is big enough to survive on its own if the USA falls apart and, B. liberals won't move to Texas because they react to Texas like a vampire reacts to holy water.
Posted by: Blake at November 15, 2017 02:54 PM (qC1Sy)

Apparently you have never heard of the People's Republic of Travis County. And take a good, hard look at Houston, Dallas, and as much as I am ashamed to say it, San Antonio. San Antonio has a police chief who believes he and he alone picks and chooses what laws to enforce, and if he doesn't like the law (such as immigration law or narcotics violations), he simply doesn't have to enforce it. As far as I am concerned, the SAPD is one step away from openly taking bribes from citizens due to crap like that. The mayor is basically a Socialist who believes all economic activity in the city is more properly his.

Yes, TX is a conservative state, but you HAVE to know where to look. Urbanism breeds Leftism.

And to the other guy who says Texas has no mountains - head west. No, they are nothing like CO or AK (other places where I have lived) - hell, they aren't even 10,000 footers. But the idea that TX is a flat state is a myth. Once you break out of the Panhandle and the coastal areas you start to see some land that varies in elevation.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 15, 2017 05:23 PM (u0f7+)

447 Leaving the ol' sock tied up in the trunk of a stolen car in an abandoned thread.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 15, 2017 06:49 PM (y87Qq)

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