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The Morning Rant: J.V. Edition
At some point I have to stick with the troop, especially the leader. Oh, I might think about flinging poo at him, and sometimes I do, but I also like to eat, and not get eaten by lions, and that's what happens when we don't stick together
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017
Donald Trump can't block you on social media. You have a right to participate in the democratic process online. pic.twitter.com/KQvboSTo4O
— EFF (@EFF) November 6, 2017
This is retarded on so many levels. Do these people ever read the actual law, or is it some stylized version they read in a tweet from Vox.com?
NBC News' @alivitali asks President Trump: "Would you consider extreme vetting on people trying to buy a gun?" pic.twitter.com/9OFwa5eWKv
— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 7, 2017
There’s a McDonald’s within 1,000 feet of the White House, but Trump's body man frequented a McD’s much further away https://t.co/Js5mn2iwMk pic.twitter.com/UEg8DzkpYn
— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) November 7, 2017
Comments
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"inside-the-beltway Republicans" are actually just Democrats, so they are enforcing the orthodoxy.
Posted by: not the mama at November 08, 2017 11:31 AM (GCQK2)
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Uno?
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:31 AM (QC/4S)
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"...much further away"? Try "...much farther away".
Posted by: Tom at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (wBro8)
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You know, I kind of like the new fresh air that is permeating AoSHQ. thanks CBD.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (QC/4S)
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hurray ... a chimp that likes guns
Posted by: illiniwek at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (/aIFg)
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When did reporters decide they needed to pursue their left wing agenda at all costs and all circumstances even when it reveals their fundamental brain damage?
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (nBr1j)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 11:34 AM (W+vEI)
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The best we can hope for is stagnation until the next democrat president and democrat congress can continue the march to oblivion.
The best we can hope for is stagnation until the next democrat president and democrat congress can continue the march to oblivion.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 08, 2017 11:34 AM (4XCge)
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When did reporters decide they needed to pursue their left wing agenda at all costs and all circumstances even when it reveals their fundamental brain damage?
When did they not?
When did reporters decide they needed to pursue their left wing agenda at all costs and all circumstances even when it reveals their fundamental brain damage?
When did they not?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2017 11:35 AM (IqV8l)
10
Day 365 and Hillary will never be taking questions from the slobbering love affair press while standing next to other heads of state in foreign countries.
We won't get to hear her expound at great length about the success of her happy fun camps and gun buyback programs and I'm okay with that.
We won't get to hear her expound at great length about the success of her happy fun camps and gun buyback programs and I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at November 08, 2017 11:35 AM (5XB8C)
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We have the Democrats (running so far left they may as well be Greens/CPUSA), Republicans (entering the space the Democrats vacated), and the MAGA crowd (covering the center and center/right).
Just a matter of time before the deck shuffles.
Just a matter of time before the deck shuffles.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at November 08, 2017 11:35 AM (AM1GF)
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After 2 years of doing absolutely nothing, Republicans will lose the house. Why exactly does that party even exist?
Posted by: gm at November 08, 2017 11:37 AM (K0tm3)
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I would imagine for safety, Trump's burger would be procured at a variety of non-obvious places, no?
We already know how juvenile the Left is - and sometimes dangerous - based on how they've treated random police officers in restaurants since #BLM started. The worst I recall is the broken glass in the food.
We already know how juvenile the Left is - and sometimes dangerous - based on how they've treated random police officers in restaurants since #BLM started. The worst I recall is the broken glass in the food.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 11:37 AM (W+vEI)
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Posted by: Tom at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (wBro
Hah! I didn't notice that.
Journalism school...for people who flunked out of their Sociology program.
Hah! I didn't notice that.
Journalism school...for people who flunked out of their Sociology program.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:38 AM (wYseH)
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Corgis called
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 11:38 AM (vVRlw)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 08, 2017 11:38 AM (ul9CR)
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Posted this in the morning thread, but it's funny enough to share twice!
https://twitter.com/Gumlegs/status/927335131282661376
https://twitter.com/Gumlegs/status/927335131282661376
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (W+vEI)
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There's a McDonalds within 1,000 feet of the White House
.............
Built during the Clinton administration?
.............
Built during the Clinton administration?
Posted by: wth at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (HgMAr)
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A little of good news:
NYC: on Staten Island, Republican Borough President and all republican city council members retain their seats with big advantage. Republican won vacant civil court judge race.
NYC: on Staten Island, Republican Borough President and all republican city council members retain their seats with big advantage. Republican won vacant civil court judge race.
Posted by: redmonkey at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (2R6mJ)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (ul9CR)
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I've noticed at McDonald's the quality can vary from franchise to franchise. PDT probably knows which one has the freshest fries.
Posted by: not the mama at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (GCQK2)
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Violate Reagan's 11th Commandment, see where it gets you.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (NWiLs)
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Is everybody that allegedly writes at the Huffington Post a fucking snippy bitch?
Posted by: tu3031 at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (O5Q3r)
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this is O/T but I have not seen Uncle Palpatine for a while..he ok ? yes ?
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (QC/4S)
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It's pointed out in the replies that there's a secret Secret Service exit (apparently not so secret) on H Street that is closer to that McD's.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (ul9CR)
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>>NYC: on Staten Island, Republican Borough President and all republican city council members retain their seats with big advantage. Republican won vacant civil court judge race.
Out of curiosity, what did they run on? Was it national issues or local ones?
Out of curiosity, what did they run on? Was it national issues or local ones?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (/tuJf)
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Trump election of Va. election is correct, IMO.
Whether Gillespie would have won or not, by seeking Trump support... who knows.
We do know how he did by doing what he did.
If Republicans want to be Liberals, fine... just don't expect me to go to the mat for you.
Trump is an old school Liberal... and that is about all I can stomach... as least he is America First.
Whether Gillespie would have won or not, by seeking Trump support... who knows.
We do know how he did by doing what he did.
If Republicans want to be Liberals, fine... just don't expect me to go to the mat for you.
Trump is an old school Liberal... and that is about all I can stomach... as least he is America First.
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (zSVEm)
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So what was Trump's response to the reporter idiot's (BIRM) question?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (NWiLs)
Watch the video, it's all there.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (NWiLs)
Watch the video, it's all there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (wYseH)
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You know, I kind of like the new fresh air that is permeating AoSHQ"
It's great. One could almost call it a "Hot Air" or something...
I keed, I keed.
It's great. One could almost call it a "Hot Air" or something...
I keed, I keed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (MINbv)
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Is everybody that allegedly writes at the Huffington Post a fucking snippy bitch?
Posted by: tu3031 at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM
Condition of employment
Is everybody that allegedly writes at the Huffington Post a fucking snippy bitch?
Posted by: tu3031 at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM
Condition of employment
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (IqV8l)
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Trump didn't add "and if some deacons or elders had quietly carried in the church, perhaps they could have stopped the psycho even sooner." But he made his point well.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 08, 2017 11:42 AM (/aIFg)
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>>Is everybody that allegedly writes at the Huffington Post a fucking snippy bitch?
Can't you tell by their team of editors? Mean Girlzzzz
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8mtuzsw
Can't you tell by their team of editors? Mean Girlzzzz
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8mtuzsw
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 11:42 AM (W+vEI)
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>>Whether Gillespie would have won or not, by seeking Trump support... who knows. We do know how he did by doing what he did. Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (zSVEm)
He'd have lost in any event.
He'd have lost in any event.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:42 AM (Bdeb0)
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It's pointed out in the replies that there's a secret Secret Service exit (apparently not so secret) on H Street that is closer to that McD's.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (ul9CR)
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Yeah.... he gets his ass handed to him in the comments.
At least he didnt just make shit up like they did for Koi-gate or for the creative editing that tried to paint Trump as not knowing some Japanese cars were made in America.
It's pointed out in the replies that there's a secret Secret Service exit (apparently not so secret) on H Street that is closer to that McD's.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 08, 2017 11:40 AM (ul9CR)
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Yeah.... he gets his ass handed to him in the comments.
At least he didnt just make shit up like they did for Koi-gate or for the creative editing that tried to paint Trump as not knowing some Japanese cars were made in America.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2017 11:42 AM (8XRCm)
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Read this morning that our esteemed former president enjoys himself some cannabis-laced gummi bears.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (vg8iE)
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (Dp7Gq)
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27 >>NYC: on Staten Island, Republican Borough President and all republican city council members retain their seats with big advantage. Republican won vacant civil court judge race.
Out of curiosity, what did they run on? Was it national issues or local ones?
Mostly local, but Democrat was trying to use Trump against republicans.
Out of curiosity, what did they run on? Was it national issues or local ones?
Mostly local, but Democrat was trying to use Trump against republicans.
Posted by: redmonkey at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (2R6mJ)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (CFx1m)
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WTF is "extreme vetting"?
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (OYEFj)
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Love the idiots that think Trump can't block them from his Twitter feed because it's some kind of censorship.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (vVRlw)
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TL ; DR - blood-eagles all around
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 08, 2017 11:44 AM (fA1SL)
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>>Mostly local, but Democrat was trying to use Trump against republicans.
Sort of what I thought. Local politics is usually local.
Thanks
Sort of what I thought. Local politics is usually local.
Thanks
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 11:44 AM (/tuJf)
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Whether Gillespie would have won or not, by seeking Trump support... who knows. "
The key is that the GOP needs to run as President Trump ran - a suffer no fools, stand for something candidate.
Complaining about seeking (or dismissing) President Trump's assistance is to purposely miss the point.
The key is that the GOP needs to run as President Trump ran - a suffer no fools, stand for something candidate.
Complaining about seeking (or dismissing) President Trump's assistance is to purposely miss the point.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:44 AM (MINbv)
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I wanted to clarify some points I didn't make well earlier today.
My objection to the eh the Dems won a race they were supposed to win is mainly a matter of tone more than anything. If races that are supposed to be won aren't contested, we would not be on the verge of celebrating the Ascension of the Golden Scalp Weasel. Now, I do get what is being said, I do, it's just something about the formulation of they won the race they were supposed to win so no big deal that strikes me wrong. As I said, it's tone more than anything else.
Also, while I am very much get rid of the RINO scum, I am also cognizant of local realities. I am sick of all elections being national elections and I want very much for all politics to go back to being local, particularly state and local level politics. So I am in the camp of elect the most conservative possible and I do accept that means that sometimes I will barely recognize that person as conservative.
Of course, all of that goes flying out the window because we never ever ever ever seem to get the conservative part of it. See re: Schlichter's article on how loyalty goes both ways.
Lastly, it's been not even a day since the results from last night's elections came in. I'm pretty sure that this may be too soon to determine What Happened. I know, I know, burn the stop doing hot takes witch.
Most importantly, my regingering last night came out great.
My objection to the eh the Dems won a race they were supposed to win is mainly a matter of tone more than anything. If races that are supposed to be won aren't contested, we would not be on the verge of celebrating the Ascension of the Golden Scalp Weasel. Now, I do get what is being said, I do, it's just something about the formulation of they won the race they were supposed to win so no big deal that strikes me wrong. As I said, it's tone more than anything else.
Also, while I am very much get rid of the RINO scum, I am also cognizant of local realities. I am sick of all elections being national elections and I want very much for all politics to go back to being local, particularly state and local level politics. So I am in the camp of elect the most conservative possible and I do accept that means that sometimes I will barely recognize that person as conservative.
Of course, all of that goes flying out the window because we never ever ever ever seem to get the conservative part of it. See re: Schlichter's article on how loyalty goes both ways.
Lastly, it's been not even a day since the results from last night's elections came in. I'm pretty sure that this may be too soon to determine What Happened. I know, I know, burn the stop doing hot takes witch.
Most importantly, my regingering last night came out great.
Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (mf5HN)
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I have not seen Uncle Palpatine for a while
Changed his nick.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (CFx1m)
Apple Fritters ?
Changed his nick.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:43 AM (CFx1m)
Apple Fritters ?
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (QC/4S)
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In Re: the distance to McDonald's.
(A) Which restaurant is easier to get to with the one way streets?
(1) Why is anyone supposed to care?
(A) Which restaurant is easier to get to with the one way streets?
(1) Why is anyone supposed to care?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (hLRSq)
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>>There's a McDonalds within 1,000 feet of the White House
Well, if Bill Clinton could jog to it...it had to be close.
Well, if Bill Clinton could jog to it...it had to be close.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (Dp7Gq)
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"26 It's pointed out in the replies that there's a secret Secret Service exit (apparently not so secret) on H Street that is closer to that McD's."
And is open 24 hr. The one on 17th is also full of tourists during the day (not a criticism of them).
And is open 24 hr. The one on 17th is also full of tourists during the day (not a criticism of them).
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (OD2ni)
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Trump has picked a lot of unnecessary fights as well. It may be entertaining, like the cop shooting himself in the foot, but you are still shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (CFx1m)
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highly recommended:
instapundit has a link to a nytimes article published one year ago today, election morning, predicting a clinton win with 85% certainty. the article breaks it down by path, state-by-state and 9 different organizations (up to 99% certainty). very scientific and objective.
this does more to express how shocking trump's win was than crying clinton staffers or journalists' tweets. it really was an historic upset, against every poll and analysis, possibly moreso than in any previous election. really makes the point.
highly recommended.
instapundit has a link to a nytimes article published one year ago today, election morning, predicting a clinton win with 85% certainty. the article breaks it down by path, state-by-state and 9 different organizations (up to 99% certainty). very scientific and objective.
this does more to express how shocking trump's win was than crying clinton staffers or journalists' tweets. it really was an historic upset, against every poll and analysis, possibly moreso than in any previous election. really makes the point.
highly recommended.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (AxFdW)
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For some reason, I'm not worried about yesterday's election results. The people who should be worried are RINOs.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (nvMvs)
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Former American War Hero John McCain needs to go. On his feet or feet first, I am indifferent as to which.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (QQ+il)
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There's a McDonalds within 1,000 feet of the White House
...................
Now we know where the Hamburglar and Mayor McCheese got their start.
...................
Now we know where the Hamburglar and Mayor McCheese got their start.
Posted by: wth at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (HgMAr)
55
ou know, I kind of like the new fresh air that is permeating AoSHQ"
It's great. One could almost call it a "Hot Air" or something...
I keed, I keed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (MINbv)
I was not
It's great. One could almost call it a "Hot Air" or something...
I keed, I keed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (MINbv)
I was not
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (QC/4S)
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I would back Trump if his declared party was Jacobin, for all I care about labels.
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (zSVEm)
57
Unnecessary is debatable
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (QC/4S)
58
Didja see this?
Today Show Jumps The Shark: Brings On Dan Rather To Discuss Made-Up News Stories
[Rather] added, "I think most of the public understands that we're under attack by very powerful people, including the president, for their own partisan, political, and ideological reasons. They want people - they're basically saying, 'Believe us, believe only your president and believe only the people who are in power. Don't believe these people out in the press.'"
Today Show Jumps The Shark: Brings On Dan Rather To Discuss Made-Up News Stories
[Rather] added, "I think most of the public understands that we're under attack by very powerful people, including the president, for their own partisan, political, and ideological reasons. They want people - they're basically saying, 'Believe us, believe only your president and believe only the people who are in power. Don't believe these people out in the press.'"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 08, 2017 11:48 AM (Nwg0u)
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That map made me hungry. The Old Ebbitt Grill has a great burger.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2017 11:48 AM (OD2ni)
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Most importantly, my regingering last night came out great.
Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (mf5HN)
Somebody is going to ask, so it might as well be me.....
Does the carpet match the drapes?
And I agree...I am sick of everything being a referendum on our national politics.
For fvck's sake....local school boards should be non-partisan!
Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (mf5HN)
Somebody is going to ask, so it might as well be me.....
Does the carpet match the drapes?
And I agree...I am sick of everything being a referendum on our national politics.
For fvck's sake....local school boards should be non-partisan!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:48 AM (wYseH)
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28. Ywp. Funny, innit? An old-school urban democrat in today's climate is the leader of the resurgent right. Interesting times, indeed.
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 08, 2017 11:48 AM (fA1SL)
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That is one disgusting-looking ape. And yes, I realize that's the point.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 08, 2017 11:48 AM (nvMvs)
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Most importantly, my regingering last night came out great.
Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (mf5HN)
So you've amped up the soulless monster part of your skill-set?
Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (mf5HN)
So you've amped up the soulless monster part of your skill-set?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (vVRlw)
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Point of order - Trump does not have a "body man." The mincing ponce who last held the office of President did.
Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (7HtZB)
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... i.e. clinton had every good reason to expect to win. one week before the times scientifically had her at 93%!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (AxFdW)
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Read this morning that our esteemed former president enjoys himself some cannabis-laced gummi bears.
Are there cannabis laced bags of dicks? I'll bet he'd love those.
Are there cannabis laced bags of dicks? I'll bet he'd love those.
Posted by: tu3031 at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (O5Q3r)
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>>There's a McDonalds within 1,000 feet of the White House
Well, if Bill Clinton could jog to it...it had to be close.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (Dp7Gq)
................
Did he order extra special sauce?
Well, if Bill Clinton could jog to it...it had to be close.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 11:45 AM (Dp7Gq)
................
Did he order extra special sauce?
Posted by: wth at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (HgMAr)
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Watch the video
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what video?
Twitter sucks
I have to copy the url to another browser window in another browser, clidk the link, click the link. enable scripts, click the link, reload the url, reload the url, click the link to get the video to play ... and it was stupid.
Trump kept saying if 'he didn't have a gun' which 'he' not specified, but obvious from the point being made that he who stopped the he who was shooting up the church had a gun that he might not have been able to get if the liberal anti-gun democrats had their way while he the guy shooting up the church already had violated the law to get the damn gun.
The answer to these damn anti-gun people is 'we have the right to fight back'. We have to fight back, and we will have the necessary tools to fight back effectively.
These damn liberals don't want us fighting back. They want us dead['i].
--
what video?
Twitter sucks
I have to copy the url to another browser window in another browser, clidk the link, click the link. enable scripts, click the link, reload the url, reload the url, click the link to get the video to play ... and it was stupid.
Trump kept saying if 'he didn't have a gun' which 'he' not specified, but obvious from the point being made that he who stopped the he who was shooting up the church had a gun that he might not have been able to get if the liberal anti-gun democrats had their way while he the guy shooting up the church already had violated the law to get the damn gun.
The answer to these damn anti-gun people is 'we have the right to fight back'. We have to fight back, and we will have the necessary tools to fight back effectively.
These damn liberals don't want us fighting back. They want us dead['i].
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (4XCge)
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I was not
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (QC/4S)
Good to hear.
There are some really smart people around here.
I would love to hear more from them.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (QC/4S)
Good to hear.
There are some really smart people around here.
I would love to hear more from them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (wYseH)
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21 I've noticed at McDonald's the quality can vary from franchise to franchise. PDT probably knows which one has the freshest fries.
Posted by: not the mama at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (GCQK2)
That's disappointing and one of the problems with corporate these days. The whole point of the McDonalds scheme was to have a consistent experience at any one of their stores whether or not it was a franchise. And in the 80s, they were positively maniacal about maintaining those standards. I used to work for The Scotsman back then, and it was a real thing to spot check all stores, McOpCo (corporate owned) and franchises. God help the staff if the report came back with problems.
Posted by: not the mama at November 08, 2017 11:39 AM (GCQK2)
That's disappointing and one of the problems with corporate these days. The whole point of the McDonalds scheme was to have a consistent experience at any one of their stores whether or not it was a franchise. And in the 80s, they were positively maniacal about maintaining those standards. I used to work for The Scotsman back then, and it was a real thing to spot check all stores, McOpCo (corporate owned) and franchises. God help the staff if the report came back with problems.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (qtpPt)
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50. You go to war with the army you have. TGE is the instrument Providence has seen fit to give us.
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (fA1SL)
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>>>Unnecessary is debatable
Nothing wrong with debate. At the end of the day, I like to look at results. Too early to tell if those were good fights to pick, so I am speculating some. We will see.
Nothing wrong with debate. At the end of the day, I like to look at results. Too early to tell if those were good fights to pick, so I am speculating some. We will see.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (CFx1m)
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>>Most importantly, my regingering last night came out great.
The hardest part of that job is the prep work, specifically taping around the trim.
The hardest part of that job is the prep work, specifically taping around the trim.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (Dp7Gq)
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>>Hasn't he won every fight?
Roy Moore is one he lost by very publicly inserting himself into the race.
Roy Moore is one he lost by very publicly inserting himself into the race.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (/tuJf)
76
Maybe the closer McD's is a filthy dump or busy, traffic, ....etc?
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (suO/a)
77
Reposting this from the MMO because I put in a lot of work into it and I'll be damned if it gets winnowed.
>>386 Ok, here's a question for the 'rons. when you pee do you adjust your distance from the toilet based on how much you have to pee? Pee like a racehorse = stand further away? Just have to pee a little = get closer to the bowl? Do you get closer in as the stream tapers off? Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2017 11:03 AM (ZM2xo)
I'm tall and get good splatter so I sometimes squat down and piss into the bowl lower so there's less mess
Sometimes I piss against the side of the bowl for the same purpose
At my condo to avoid the mess and make bathroom cleaning easier, I almost always pee sitting down (THERE I ADMIT IT).
I don't know anyone that varies their horizontal distance from the bowl. However, that changes in public restrooms. You have no idea how many guys are dirty pissers or who have 0 idea of proper piss technique and get pee all over the floor. I avoid standing the pee, so sometimes I pee at odd angles or distance from the bowl. If I do that, as the stream tapers off I have to move closer.
If I'm at the urinal, it's a battle of the belt buckle. I won't tolerate being too close to the bowl, but I don't want to be the guy that stands 1 foot away with his hands on his hips. I typically wrangle the belt buckle and other belt end with one hand, then proceed to pee while intently watching to make sure nothing touches the urinal. I also have to make sure not to stand in pee since a lot of guys piss like savages even at urinals.
Proper pee technique is important to me, since I value hygiene. When I enter a restroom, I turn into a Nazi.
>>386 Ok, here's a question for the 'rons. when you pee do you adjust your distance from the toilet based on how much you have to pee? Pee like a racehorse = stand further away? Just have to pee a little = get closer to the bowl? Do you get closer in as the stream tapers off? Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 08, 2017 11:03 AM (ZM2xo)
I'm tall and get good splatter so I sometimes squat down and piss into the bowl lower so there's less mess
Sometimes I piss against the side of the bowl for the same purpose
At my condo to avoid the mess and make bathroom cleaning easier, I almost always pee sitting down (THERE I ADMIT IT).
I don't know anyone that varies their horizontal distance from the bowl. However, that changes in public restrooms. You have no idea how many guys are dirty pissers or who have 0 idea of proper piss technique and get pee all over the floor. I avoid standing the pee, so sometimes I pee at odd angles or distance from the bowl. If I do that, as the stream tapers off I have to move closer.
If I'm at the urinal, it's a battle of the belt buckle. I won't tolerate being too close to the bowl, but I don't want to be the guy that stands 1 foot away with his hands on his hips. I typically wrangle the belt buckle and other belt end with one hand, then proceed to pee while intently watching to make sure nothing touches the urinal. I also have to make sure not to stand in pee since a lot of guys piss like savages even at urinals.
Proper pee technique is important to me, since I value hygiene. When I enter a restroom, I turn into a Nazi.
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (wwd4n)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (4XCge)
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Unnecessary is debatable
Posted by: runner
Hasn't he won every fight?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (vVRlw)
if memory serves, yes.
Posted by: runner
Hasn't he won every fight?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (vVRlw)
if memory serves, yes.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (QC/4S)
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>>50 Trump has picked a lot of unnecessary fights as well. It may be entertaining, like the cop shooting himself in the foot, but you are still shooting yourself in the foot. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (CFx1m)
His electoral calculus never involved this: "Y'know, these little guys in DC have huge and fragile egos, and if I piss all over them by calling them 'losers' and 'jocks' with relish--and I do manage to win--they're not likely to show me any legislative love."
Sure, this is how we 'got Trump.' But in getting him, we also bought some pretty tough, unforgiving congressional karma.
His electoral calculus never involved this: "Y'know, these little guys in DC have huge and fragile egos, and if I piss all over them by calling them 'losers' and 'jocks' with relish--and I do manage to win--they're not likely to show me any legislative love."
Sure, this is how we 'got Trump.' But in getting him, we also bought some pretty tough, unforgiving congressional karma.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (Bdeb0)
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We need to make sure that we hold that AL senate seat. I imagine all sorts of liberal creatures throughout the country are eyeing that race with lots of money after last night.
Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (a+WIL)
Posted by: LASue at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (hZ+us)
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Turnout, turnout, turnout.
A deep dive into the data comparing VA 2017 to VA 2016 will likely show better turnout by those aligned with The Borg (because anti-Trump) and a not-as-good-as-needed turnout by Deplorables because Gillespie was a squish.
When most voters who can vote don't, energizing your base is usually outcome determinative.
A deep dive into the data comparing VA 2017 to VA 2016 will likely show better turnout by those aligned with The Borg (because anti-Trump) and a not-as-good-as-needed turnout by Deplorables because Gillespie was a squish.
When most voters who can vote don't, energizing your base is usually outcome determinative.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (cAXIk)
84
I get a "Trump doesn't hate me and wish me dead" vibe from the guy, so I have this strange attraction...
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (zSVEm)
85
we never ever ever ever seem to get the conservative part of it"
Well, to be fair, the VA GOP trotted out a candidate slightly to the left of Douglas Wilder...
Well, to be fair, the VA GOP trotted out a candidate slightly to the left of Douglas Wilder...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (MINbv)
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Trump has picked a lot of unnecessary fights as well. It may be entertaining, like the cop shooting himself in the foot, but you are still shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (CFx1m)
Can you name a few?
Trump has picked a lot of unnecessary fights as well. It may be entertaining, like the cop shooting himself in the foot, but you are still shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:46 AM (CFx1m)
Can you name a few?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (lKyWE)
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>>>Day 365 and Hillary will never be taking questions from the slobbering
love affair press while standing next to other heads of state in foreign
countries.
<<<
If only we could ship Hillary Clinton and John McCain and their matching booties off to the Ritz Carlton in Riyad, they could hang out with their pals until they're indicted.
love affair press while standing next to other heads of state in foreign
countries.
<<<
If only we could ship Hillary Clinton and John McCain and their matching booties off to the Ritz Carlton in Riyad, they could hang out with their pals until they're indicted.
Posted by: Fritz at November 08, 2017 11:51 AM (2Mnv1)
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They still do snow tires?
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 08, 2017 11:31 AM (lwiT4)
grammie, if you're still around
yes, it's the law where I live, or else a ticket
they won't accept all-season either.
Winter tires are mandatory from December 15 to March 15 inclusive.
Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 08, 2017 11:31 AM (lwiT4)
grammie, if you're still around
yes, it's the law where I live, or else a ticket
they won't accept all-season either.
Winter tires are mandatory from December 15 to March 15 inclusive.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 11:52 AM (fceHP)
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"Trump has picked a lot of unnecessary fights as well. It may be entertaining, like the cop shooting himself in the foot, but you are still shooting yourself in the foot.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy -"
I do agree with this. The Army widow was a no win situation that he should stayed away from. I also wish he would stop talking about the NFL protests. That said, he has been really good on his Asian trip.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy -"
I do agree with this. The Army widow was a no win situation that he should stayed away from. I also wish he would stop talking about the NFL protests. That said, he has been really good on his Asian trip.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2017 11:52 AM (OD2ni)
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65 Point of order - Trump does not have a "body man." The mincing ponce who last held the office of President did.
Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (7HtZB)
You know what a good body man is for? Well, let me tell you...
Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (7HtZB)
You know what a good body man is for? Well, let me tell you...
Posted by: Francis Underwood at November 08, 2017 11:52 AM (eypvf)
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>>since a lot of guys piss like savages even at urinals. Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (wwd4n)
Zod pisses like a savage. Even at urinals.
Zod pisses like a savage. Even at urinals.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (Bdeb0)
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Obama did not have a body, man.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (IqV8l)
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67 Read this morning that our esteemed former president enjoys himself some cannabis-laced gummi bears.
Are there cannabis laced bags of dicks? I'll bet he'd love those.
Posted by: tu3031 at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (O5Q3r)
Cannabis laced Gummi Bears sort of sums up his Presidency...
Are there cannabis laced bags of dicks? I'll bet he'd love those.
Posted by: tu3031 at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (O5Q3r)
Cannabis laced Gummi Bears sort of sums up his Presidency...
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (zSVEm)
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Politico reporter has memorized a GPS coordinates of all MickeyDs with Beltways and also know age of consent in all 57 states and adjacent foreign countries.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (bmkS9)
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So I'll just say it. I'm "concerned". Label me a troll if you wish, but I think Republicans are headed to a bloodbath in 2018 and people are whistling past the graveyard with the VA results by saying "it's a blue state anyway!!!"
Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
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oh damn, we are getting snow tonight
glad I bought milk while I was out getting the tires on
hunkering down
oh damn, we are getting snow tonight
glad I bought milk while I was out getting the tires on
hunkering down
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (fceHP)
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OT;
More news from the not so great state of Oregon. The Governor has signed executive orders changing building codes. New construction must be pre-wired for Solar Panels and all new homes must have an electric charger installed. Also requires more electric cars by 2020.
The pre-wiring for solar panels might not be a bad thing except for it being required instead of a voluntary thing.
More news from the not so great state of Oregon. The Governor has signed executive orders changing building codes. New construction must be pre-wired for Solar Panels and all new homes must have an electric charger installed. Also requires more electric cars by 2020.
The pre-wiring for solar panels might not be a bad thing except for it being required instead of a voluntary thing.
Posted by: Traveling Man at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (R5lpX)
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he should stayed away from. "
Ah, the patented "Bush Move" to "stay above the fray"
How'd that work out?
You see, I'm old, and recall hearing about the "Bully Pulpit"
Ah, the patented "Bush Move" to "stay above the fray"
How'd that work out?
You see, I'm old, and recall hearing about the "Bully Pulpit"
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (MINbv)
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I was not
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (QC/4S)
Good to hear.
There are some really smart people around here.
I would love to hear more from them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (wYseH)
Hope Fen comes back. I miss her.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:47 AM (QC/4S)
Good to hear.
There are some really smart people around here.
I would love to hear more from them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (wYseH)
Hope Fen comes back. I miss her.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (QC/4S)
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Sure, this is how we 'got Trump.' But in getting him, we also bought some pretty tough, unforgiving congressional karma.
That's why God gave us primaries.
That's why God gave us primaries.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (QQ+il)
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Donald Trump can't block you on social media. You have a right to participate in the democratic process online.
---
Yes, please. Let's have this conversation.
Then one on the actually-written-down 2nd Amendment.
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Yes, please. Let's have this conversation.
Then one on the actually-written-down 2nd Amendment.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (GQSqS)
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I thought Gillespie would win, but not surprised by Northam's victory. More surprised at a Socialist and transgender candidate, who basically was a one-trick pony, won.
Posted by: MacGruber at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (FEAjO)
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The GOP is pretty smug about losing to the Dems, but a fee points:
1) The President has made extraordinary progress in foreign relations, commendable headway against bureaucracy, and little progress on major legislation.
Basically, the more input Congress has, the more ineffective the politics.
2) Knowing this, the vast majority of Republicans support thr President more than Congress. If they were to all drop dead tomorrow we would be pleased as pie.
3) President Trump has successfully fought the NFL, Hillary Clinton, and the entire globalist enterprise. Liberal friends of the Bushbots were calling for him to face war crimes trials eight years ago.
Point is... if this keeps up, you are betting your lives that the American people will back Congress over the President.
1) The President has made extraordinary progress in foreign relations, commendable headway against bureaucracy, and little progress on major legislation.
Basically, the more input Congress has, the more ineffective the politics.
2) Knowing this, the vast majority of Republicans support thr President more than Congress. If they were to all drop dead tomorrow we would be pleased as pie.
3) President Trump has successfully fought the NFL, Hillary Clinton, and the entire globalist enterprise. Liberal friends of the Bushbots were calling for him to face war crimes trials eight years ago.
Point is... if this keeps up, you are betting your lives that the American people will back Congress over the President.
Posted by: trev006 at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (YZ6/J)
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The tax overhaul will result in less money in my pocket, thanks to the elimination of the property tax deduction. Wouldn't it be better to eliminate the mortgage interest deduction? At least I have some control over how much money I borrow. But property tax is not optional.
Posted by: Chris M at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (6RZos)
105
Obama did not have a body, man.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
True.
Reggie Love was more of an anal stretcher.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
True.
Reggie Love was more of an anal stretcher.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (vVRlw)
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Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
I know this is a silly question, but did you read the post?
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
I know this is a silly question, but did you read the post?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (wYseH)
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"98 he should stayed away from. "
Ah, the patented "Bush Move" to "stay above the fray"
How'd that work out?"
Re-elected.
Ah, the patented "Bush Move" to "stay above the fray"
How'd that work out?"
Re-elected.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (OD2ni)
108
What the heck is a 'body man'?
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (a0IVu)
109
If Republicans are, in fact, heading for a 2018 bloodbath... whose fault is that?? Ours?? Are we supposed to take a bullet for a party that despises us?
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:55 AM (zSVEm)
110
Vote Beltway Republican for kinder, gentler Democrats who don't yell as much!
Posted by: GOPe at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (2z74n)
111
listened to Trump's speech this morning
it was fun
he did a great job of making the S. Korean's feel good about themselves
the Golfing part was hilarious!
and the bragging of our domestic and his other achievements.
then the threatening tone to N. Korea.
covered all bases
listened to Trump's speech this morning
it was fun
he did a great job of making the S. Korean's feel good about themselves
the Golfing part was hilarious!
and the bragging of our domestic and his other achievements.
then the threatening tone to N. Korea.
covered all bases
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (fceHP)
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I do agree with this. The Army widow was a no win situation that he should stayed away from.
Trump didn't pick that fight.
I do agree with this. The Army widow was a no win situation that he should stayed away from.
Trump didn't pick that fight.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (lKyWE)
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>>So I'll just say it. I'm "concerned". Label me a troll if you wish, but I think Republicans are headed to a bloodbath in 2018 and people are whistling past the graveyard with the VA results by saying "it's a blue state anyway!!!"
And I will say again, the party in power losing in the mid-terms is the norm not the exception. We should expect that unless they get tax reform and a few other important things done Republicans in Congress will follow the trend and not buck it.
And I can guarantee that professional politicians on both sides of the aisle along with the media spinners know this all to well even if they pretend everything is now a referendum on Trump.
And I will say again, the party in power losing in the mid-terms is the norm not the exception. We should expect that unless they get tax reform and a few other important things done Republicans in Congress will follow the trend and not buck it.
And I can guarantee that professional politicians on both sides of the aisle along with the media spinners know this all to well even if they pretend everything is now a referendum on Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (MINbv)
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I forgot about Roy Moore, but that was intramural, so not sure that counts 
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (QC/4S)
116
>>>Can you name a few?
Pretty much every feud with his own Cabinet and members of his own party in Congress. Crack skulls in private, not on Twitter.
Pretty much every feud with his own Cabinet and members of his own party in Congress. Crack skulls in private, not on Twitter.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (CFx1m)
117
Just got here... Was there a Presidential election yesterday? The media is all orgasmic so I thought it must have been something that big...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (O2RFr)
118
Gillespie went out of his way to avoid the rallies and events that Trump used to great effect throughout the Midwest. How did he expect the base to rally behind him again??
Posted by: trev006 at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (YZ6/J)
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>>Trump didn't pick that fight. Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (lKyWE)
That's correct. Unfortunately, he hasn't learned that you don't have to attend every argument you're invited to.
That's correct. Unfortunately, he hasn't learned that you don't have to attend every argument you're invited to.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (Bdeb0)
120
"Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop."
^^this^^
I live in VA, and I'm without my delegate this morning--good guy beaten by a female FL move-in with a ton of out of state cash. A worker for her came to my door every week, and none of them were from here.
We have a ton of never-trump/"this is not who we are" elite GOPers, and I've been hankering to start asking them "who is we?"
And I'm starting to want to smack some of them.
I think we have some poisonous identity politics going on that has ZERO to do with race, sex, gender, etc, and a great deal to do with display/preening of a different kind.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop."
^^this^^
I live in VA, and I'm without my delegate this morning--good guy beaten by a female FL move-in with a ton of out of state cash. A worker for her came to my door every week, and none of them were from here.
We have a ton of never-trump/"this is not who we are" elite GOPers, and I've been hankering to start asking them "who is we?"
And I'm starting to want to smack some of them.
I think we have some poisonous identity politics going on that has ZERO to do with race, sex, gender, etc, and a great deal to do with display/preening of a different kind.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (4XCge)
122
If Republicans are, in fact, heading for a 2018 bloodbath... whose fault is that?? Ours??
Well of course it is. After all, President Trump didn't win (fill in name of state here).
Well of course it is. After all, President Trump didn't win (fill in name of state here).
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (MINbv)
123
The tax overhaul will result in less money in my pocket, thanks to the elimination of the property tax deduction. Wouldn't it be better to eliminate the mortgage interest deduction? At least I have some control over how much money I borrow. But property tax is not optional.
Posted by: Chris M
____________
My understanding is the property tax deduction is still there but capped.
I do agree that politically, it's stupid for anyone that pays taxes, to pay more in taxes under a Republican tax plan.
I'll probably get hit with this also, and I live in a relatively low property tax state.
Why not just do an across the board cut of rates, cut the corporate rate, eliminate Estate tax and put a win on the board?
If there's Republican voters that end up paying more in taxes under the plan, it's not going to play well.
Posted by: Chris M
____________
My understanding is the property tax deduction is still there but capped.
I do agree that politically, it's stupid for anyone that pays taxes, to pay more in taxes under a Republican tax plan.
I'll probably get hit with this also, and I live in a relatively low property tax state.
Why not just do an across the board cut of rates, cut the corporate rate, eliminate Estate tax and put a win on the board?
If there's Republican voters that end up paying more in taxes under the plan, it's not going to play well.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (lKmt3)
124
117
Just got here... Was there a Presidential election yesterday? The media
is all orgasmic so I thought it must have been something that big...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (O2RFr)
heh...MSM is pretty sure its the first step towards getting Hillary installed as president in 3,2,1...
Just got here... Was there a Presidential election yesterday? The media
is all orgasmic so I thought it must have been something that big...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (O2RFr)
heh...MSM is pretty sure its the first step towards getting Hillary installed as president in 3,2,1...
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (a0IVu)
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Trump didn't pick that fight.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (lKyWE)
------------------------------
No, but it takes two to fight. Only one to be pummeled.
Trump didn't pick that fight.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (lKyWE)
------------------------------
No, but it takes two to fight. Only one to be pummeled.
Posted by: W the Stupid at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (5NMZN)
126
Clearly what we need to do is continue to choose moderates to run on making sure that the democrats don't hate them. And then not actually work to pass anything they claim to stand for as Republicans. Because you know these things take time. You can let get everything right away. So best to just cave to the democrats again and again and throw a bone to our corporate masters like the ex-im bank like we have for decades. Because that will eventually result in conservatives getting something they've been promised for decades.
Posted by: Buzzion - guess my sign at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (cAnNx)
127
Watch the video, it's all there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (wYseH)
OK. I was on my phone so there was no video. Now that I've seen it, it was a solid response to that smug little twit's tasteless and situationally inappropriate question.
Watch the video, it's all there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2017 11:41 AM (wYseH)
OK. I was on my phone so there was no video. Now that I've seen it, it was a solid response to that smug little twit's tasteless and situationally inappropriate question.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 11:59 AM (NWiLs)
128
117
Just got here... Was there a Presidential election yesterday? The media is all orgasmic so I thought it must have been something that big...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (O2RFr)
Nah... some Prog mannequin won a seat in a Democrat State... giddiness by the Establishment.
Just got here... Was there a Presidential election yesterday? The media is all orgasmic so I thought it must have been something that big...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (O2RFr)
Nah... some Prog mannequin won a seat in a Democrat State... giddiness by the Establishment.
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 11:59 AM (zSVEm)
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>>Donald Trump can't block you on social media. You have a right to participate in the democratic process online.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CELEBRATED WHEN TRUMP'S TWITTER ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CELEBRATED WHEN TRUMP'S TWITTER ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 08, 2017 11:59 AM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 08, 2017 11:59 AM (QQ+il)
131
I live in VA, and I'm without my delegate this morning--good guy beaten by a female FL move-in with a ton of out of state cash. A worker for her came to my door every week, and none of them were from here.
We have a ton of never-trump/"this is not who we are" elite GOPers, and I've been hankering to start asking them "who is we?"
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)
this is why I would have bet the Dem would win
parts of VA is an extension of the DC beltway crowd
GOPe's were rooting for the enemy
We have a ton of never-trump/"this is not who we are" elite GOPers, and I've been hankering to start asking them "who is we?"
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)
this is why I would have bet the Dem would win
parts of VA is an extension of the DC beltway crowd
GOPe's were rooting for the enemy
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CBD, your question assumes facts not in evidence.
So you've amped up the soulless monster part of your skill-set?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (hLRSq)
It's more like reset it. I was feeling something that I have been given to understand is called human emotions and, oh, those had to go tout de suite.
So you've amped up the soulless monster part of your skill-set?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 11:49 AM (hLRSq)
It's more like reset it. I was feeling something that I have been given to understand is called human emotions and, oh, those had to go tout de suite.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (mf5HN)
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1. Northam wins
2. ???
3. President Hillary!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 08, 2017 11:59 AM (QQ+il)
25th Amendment! 25th Amendment!
1. Northam wins
2. ???
3. President Hillary!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 08, 2017 11:59 AM (QQ+il)
25th Amendment! 25th Amendment!
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (NWiLs)
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More news from the not so great state of Oregon. The Governor has signed executive orders changing building codes. New construction must be pre-wired for Solar Panels and all new homes must have an electric charger installed. Also requires more electric cars by 2020.
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So the 100% exact equivalent of requiring everyone to have $2500 worth of gasoline on their property upon the purchase of a new home.
Hey guys, the people buying $40K subcompacts (and $100K+ Teslas) as second and third cars aren't put off by the costs. The people not buying them are not put off by the costs, either. They're not buying them because fairly mature electric vehicles STILL don't make sense to 99%+ of car-buying consumers.
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So the 100% exact equivalent of requiring everyone to have $2500 worth of gasoline on their property upon the purchase of a new home.
Hey guys, the people buying $40K subcompacts (and $100K+ Teslas) as second and third cars aren't put off by the costs. The people not buying them are not put off by the costs, either. They're not buying them because fairly mature electric vehicles STILL don't make sense to 99%+ of car-buying consumers.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (GQSqS)
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Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (a+WIL)
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Always tell a democrat - I don't want my state to be like California, I don't want my city to be like Chicago.
I'm paraphrasing something Bill Whittle said.
A democrat said that if California was a country, it would be the eighth largest economy in the world. He said that the democrats took from republicans the fifth largest economy in the world. Someday they will hand back the tenth or twentieth or thirtieth, depending on the resident's tolerance for crime, corruption, homelessness and debt.
I'm paraphrasing something Bill Whittle said.
A democrat said that if California was a country, it would be the eighth largest economy in the world. He said that the democrats took from republicans the fifth largest economy in the world. Someday they will hand back the tenth or twentieth or thirtieth, depending on the resident's tolerance for crime, corruption, homelessness and debt.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (rnAwa)
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"New construction must be pre-wired for Solar Panels and all new homes must have an electric charger installed."
In Oregon? It's so cloudy the houses will be sending electricity back to the sky.
In Oregon? It's so cloudy the houses will be sending electricity back to the sky.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (hLRSq)
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If there's Republican voters that end up paying more in taxes under the plan, it's not going to play well.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (lKmt3)
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Probably not, but someone will have to pay more sometime. Probably the wealthy and fairly well-to-do since they actually have money.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (lKmt3)
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Probably not, but someone will have to pay more sometime. Probably the wealthy and fairly well-to-do since they actually have money.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (5NMZN)
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not sure WTH that was but I apologize.
Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (a+WIL)
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We won!
Posted by: Bill Krystal and Egg McMuffin at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (O2RFr)
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PDT's unnecessary fights. In most instances he is defending himself. The war widow was one. Frederica Wilson started it all.
People on this site constantly talk about Bush not defending himself, or McCain and Romney doing the same during their presidential bids. Now PDT defends himself and there are people clutching their pearls.
I'm tired of the dems and the media constantly assaulting the conservatives and the people they choose to represent them in government. Something needs to be done about it. I'm not an advocate for violence. If PDT wants to take them on verbally, I'm all for it.
I'm constantly hearing that PDT isn't presedential enough. Presidential my ass. Barack Obama may have looked and sounded presidential but he did more to harm this country then even Jimmy Carter. Race relations being the hardest hit.
People on this site constantly talk about Bush not defending himself, or McCain and Romney doing the same during their presidential bids. Now PDT defends himself and there are people clutching their pearls.
I'm tired of the dems and the media constantly assaulting the conservatives and the people they choose to represent them in government. Something needs to be done about it. I'm not an advocate for violence. If PDT wants to take them on verbally, I'm all for it.
I'm constantly hearing that PDT isn't presedential enough. Presidential my ass. Barack Obama may have looked and sounded presidential but he did more to harm this country then even Jimmy Carter. Race relations being the hardest hit.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (N3JsI)
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What the heck is a 'body man'?
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A valet, taking care of clothing. I think a lot of clothes-horse women have assistants (maids) to do the same.
What the heck is a 'body man'?
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A valet, taking care of clothing. I think a lot of clothes-horse women have assistants (maids) to do the same.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (NWiLs)
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Watched James Carville's melt down on election night: "...with Republican House and Senate, it's all gone: Obamacare, Dodd-Frank..." Obviously, Carville was thinking as a Democrat, not recognizing that he was referencing Republicans who never do what their voters wish.
Posted by: Ever at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (QZdJj)
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No, but it takes two to fight. Only one to be pummeled.
Posted by: W the Stupid"
But hey, he won!!!
(pointing out that he beat two really bad Dim candidates by thin margins is, well...)
Posted by: W the Stupid"
But hey, he won!!!
(pointing out that he beat two really bad Dim candidates by thin margins is, well...)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (MINbv)
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Delegate Bob Marshall taken down in VA by a Caitlyn lookalike. In Prince William County, of all places.
That's like Elton John replacing Attila the Hun in the saddle.
That's like Elton John replacing Attila the Hun in the saddle.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (Bdeb0)
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Brandolini's Bullshit Asymmetry Principle states that it takes an order of magnitude more effort to refute bullshit than to create it, BSG.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (mJ8mX)
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I cannot get that Guys twitter to load. Isnt that a Constitutional violation?
It appears he is someones father. And he claims to be ia reporter . That is tragic and funny.
It appears he is someones father. And he claims to be ia reporter . That is tragic and funny.
Posted by: LASue at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (hZ+us)
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My first thought on reading that a bodyguard brought McD's for the president was a hope he didn't make it a habit to go to the same one. Let's not make the presidents health dependent on a fast-food worker who KNOWS the food is going to the president
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (XdYF3)
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Good answer by Trump. One more point that has been restated here many times: we already HAVE vetting procedures that should have singled this guy out.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (/qEW2)
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artisanal ette, yes--we are right outside the beltway, and awash in people dependant on the fed.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (ru28e)
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (O2RFr)
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"When most voters who can vote don't, energizing your base is usually outcome determinative.
Posted by: Ignoramus
Trump lost by 5% in VA, though probably not one of his real targets. The demo is going left, but that is true everywhere.
I'm not sure Gillespie could have won (or a real Trumpist) but there is no room to be defensive and act like "oh no I'm not racist, I love diversity, open borders makes us stronger, sure bring in all Muslims" etc.
There are base positions that Trump holds that are big winners ... border control being a big one. Peace through strength is probably another. Globalists/oligarchs still run too many R candidates.
And deep state still has way too much power, which has its tentacles in the MFM and DNC and IC, (and probably more nefarious elements). Even Bushes are coming out with the NWO propaganda ... all centered around destroying Trump (and his deplorables/irredeemables)
Posted by: Ignoramus
Trump lost by 5% in VA, though probably not one of his real targets. The demo is going left, but that is true everywhere.
I'm not sure Gillespie could have won (or a real Trumpist) but there is no room to be defensive and act like "oh no I'm not racist, I love diversity, open borders makes us stronger, sure bring in all Muslims" etc.
There are base positions that Trump holds that are big winners ... border control being a big one. Peace through strength is probably another. Globalists/oligarchs still run too many R candidates.
And deep state still has way too much power, which has its tentacles in the MFM and DNC and IC, (and probably more nefarious elements). Even Bushes are coming out with the NWO propaganda ... all centered around destroying Trump (and his deplorables/irredeemables)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (/aIFg)
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>>I forgot about Roy Moore, but that was intramural, so not sure that counts
Sure it counts, maybe even more.
Trump is popular with a portion of the right, us. He is not universally loved even in the Republican Party, obviously, and he is the devil incarnate to the left and many moderates.
I'm still looking for a logical piece of evidence that says by fully embracing Trump in the only southern state Trump lost just a year ago and one that is increasingly turning blue and infested with DC swamp creatures when Trump ran on a platform of kicking them out of their jobs would have turned the tide.
Sure it counts, maybe even more.
Trump is popular with a portion of the right, us. He is not universally loved even in the Republican Party, obviously, and he is the devil incarnate to the left and many moderates.
I'm still looking for a logical piece of evidence that says by fully embracing Trump in the only southern state Trump lost just a year ago and one that is increasingly turning blue and infested with DC swamp creatures when Trump ran on a platform of kicking them out of their jobs would have turned the tide.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (/tuJf)
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not sure WTH that was but I apologize.
Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (a+WIL)
always makes me chuckle
Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (a+WIL)
always makes me chuckle
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: fixerupper at November 08, 2017 12:02 PM (8XRCm)
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And I will say again, the party in power losing in the mid-terms is the norm not the exception. We should expect that unless they get tax reform and a few other important things done Republicans in Congress will follow the trend and not buck it.
And I can guarantee that professional politicians on both sides of the aisle along with the media spinners know this all to well even if they pretend everything is now a referendum on Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (/tuJf)
It's, what, normally 30-40 seats that flip in the House?
And I can guarantee that professional politicians on both sides of the aisle along with the media spinners know this all to well even if they pretend everything is now a referendum on Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 11:56 AM (/tuJf)
It's, what, normally 30-40 seats that flip in the House?
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (mf5HN)
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Yowza.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (Bdeb0)
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What the heck is a 'body man'?
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A valet, taking care of clothing. I think a lot of clothes-horse women have assistants (maids) to do the same.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (MIKMs)
More of a minder role. Keeps him on time, makes sure he remembers things, feeds him information, that kind of thing.
What the heck is a 'body man'?
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A valet, taking care of clothing. I think a lot of clothes-horse women have assistants (maids) to do the same.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (MIKMs)
More of a minder role. Keeps him on time, makes sure he remembers things, feeds him information, that kind of thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (suO/a)
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this is why I would have bet the Dem would win
parts of VA is an extension of the DC beltway crowd
GOPe's were rooting for the enemy
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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That's obviously there n a big way, but Trump outperformed Gillespie and Gillespie was the "sits down when he pees" Republican that the Beltway crowd should. He's as insider as they come.
The more affluent suburbs is where I see Republicans having problems moving forward beyond VA, this used to be a bastion of Reagan Republicans.
parts of VA is an extension of the DC beltway crowd
GOPe's were rooting for the enemy
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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That's obviously there n a big way, but Trump outperformed Gillespie and Gillespie was the "sits down when he pees" Republican that the Beltway crowd should. He's as insider as they come.
The more affluent suburbs is where I see Republicans having problems moving forward beyond VA, this used to be a bastion of Reagan Republicans.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (lKmt3)
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Pretty much every feud with his own Cabinet and members of his own party in Congress. Crack skulls in private, not on Twitter.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (CFx1m)
You mean the party that kept him at arms length and couldn't wait to get in front of a camera and let people now how disappointed they were in their candidate during the election?
Pretty much every feud with his own Cabinet and members of his own party in Congress. Crack skulls in private, not on Twitter.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (CFx1m)
You mean the party that kept him at arms length and couldn't wait to get in front of a camera and let people now how disappointed they were in their candidate during the election?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 12:04 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:05 PM (hLRSq)
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Republicans are complaining about Trump's abrasive style, when they should be praising the substance of his policies. He really is the most conservative president we've had since Reagan. He wants the same things GOP candidates campaign for, only unlike them, he's actually interested in keeping his promises.
Posted by: Mike at November 08, 2017 12:05 PM (swJ7s)
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lunchtime
Soup!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 12:04 PM (fceHP)
No soup for you!
#twoweeks
lunchtime
Soup!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 08, 2017 12:04 PM (fceHP)
No soup for you!
#twoweeks
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:05 PM (NWiLs)
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>>What the heck is a 'body man'?
A personal assistant who takes care of everything, both personal and business. They wake you up, bring you coffee, manage your schedule, screen your calls, prep you for meeting, manage your email, etc. - see Huma Abedin.
A personal assistant who takes care of everything, both personal and business. They wake you up, bring you coffee, manage your schedule, screen your calls, prep you for meeting, manage your email, etc. - see Huma Abedin.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 12:05 PM (W+vEI)
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Eli's comin'
Posted by: The barrell at November 08, 2017 12:05 PM (IqV8l)
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After 2 years of doing absolutely nothing, Republicans will lose the house. Why exactly does that party even exist?
Posted by: gm at November 08, 2017 11:37 AM (K0tm3)
And that is what will happen because they can't perform the basics of their job. I'm looking at my Obamacare premiums going up over 100% and they weren't cheap before. I have two plans from which to choose. Do you think my stupid GOP congress critter is getting my vote?
Posted by: gm at November 08, 2017 11:37 AM (K0tm3)
And that is what will happen because they can't perform the basics of their job. I'm looking at my Obamacare premiums going up over 100% and they weren't cheap before. I have two plans from which to choose. Do you think my stupid GOP congress critter is getting my vote?
Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at November 08, 2017 12:05 PM (+R7L/)
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Tranny legislator: we've seen mentally disturbed legislators in the past, there are several in the US Congress right now. But usually they try to hide it at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (39g3+)
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I'm still looking for a logical piece of evidence"
That running as a far leftward candidate will win? Yeah, show us that...
That running as a far leftward candidate will win? Yeah, show us that...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (MINbv)
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The two things about Trump that the Republican Party does not show is an America First attitude, and a willingness to fight back when attacked.
The Bush style of temporizing when confronted by domestic opponents, and a watering down of the martial spirit when pushed by the Left, caused me to split from the Republican Old Guard Establishment.
I vote Conservative now.
The Bush style of temporizing when confronted by domestic opponents, and a watering down of the martial spirit when pushed by the Left, caused me to split from the Republican Old Guard Establishment.
I vote Conservative now.
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (zSVEm)
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In the barrel, your body man can't hear you scream.
Posted by: Fritz at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (2Mnv1)
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Did like Northam having to be ushered off stage when the fans of permanent demographic shifts disrupted his victory speech. Always nice to see these people hoist with their own pinatas.
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (fA1SL)
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I live in VA, and I'm without my delegate this morning--good guy beaten by a female FL move-in with a ton of out of state cash. A worker for her came to my door every week, and none of them were from here.
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I'd be surprised if most Southern states remain red for more than another ten years.
Between reliable voting from identity politics and locusts who can't figure out why they had to leave their (D) utopias, all it will take is for the cities to continue growing. And they will.
I don't think it can be stopped. We get a break with Trump and some SCOTUS relief, but there's no turning back.
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I'd be surprised if most Southern states remain red for more than another ten years.
Between reliable voting from identity politics and locusts who can't figure out why they had to leave their (D) utopias, all it will take is for the cities to continue growing. And they will.
I don't think it can be stopped. We get a break with Trump and some SCOTUS relief, but there's no turning back.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (GQSqS)
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A valet, taking care of clothing. I think a lot of clothes-horse women have assistants (maids) to do the same.
Yeah, he helped me with my "clothes"! That's it!
Yeah, he helped me with my "clothes"! That's it!
Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: x at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (nFwvY)
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Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (a+WIL)
The Barrel has No covfefe service. Ask me how I know...
The Barrel has No covfefe service. Ask me how I know...
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (QC/4S)
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instapundit has a link to a nytimes article published one year ago today, election morning, predicting a clinton win with 85% certainty. the article breaks it down by path, state-by-state and 9 different organizations (up to 99% certainty). very scientific and objective.
this does more to express how shocking trump's win was than crying clinton staffers or journalists' tweets. it really was an historic upset, against every poll and analysis, possibly moreso than in any previous election. really makes the point.
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There's a YouTube video of Rachel Maddow explaining to her viewers before the election how it would be impossible for Trump to win. Even if Trump won all the red states, and all the red-leaning states, and even if he also won all the toss-up states ("and nobody ever wins all the toss-up states, that would be insane"), he still could not get to 270 EC votes. It was impossible for Trump to win. Just could not happen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYCoHQhVQI
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
instapundit has a link to a nytimes article published one year ago today, election morning, predicting a clinton win with 85% certainty. the article breaks it down by path, state-by-state and 9 different organizations (up to 99% certainty). very scientific and objective.
this does more to express how shocking trump's win was than crying clinton staffers or journalists' tweets. it really was an historic upset, against every poll and analysis, possibly moreso than in any previous election. really makes the point.
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There's a YouTube video of Rachel Maddow explaining to her viewers before the election how it would be impossible for Trump to win. Even if Trump won all the red states, and all the red-leaning states, and even if he also won all the toss-up states ("and nobody ever wins all the toss-up states, that would be insane"), he still could not get to 270 EC votes. It was impossible for Trump to win. Just could not happen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYCoHQhVQI
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (BXf9o)
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All aboard the ann frank line.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (LjR2k)
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yo, it be cold
Posted by: George at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (eDKt2)
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It is up to the Republican Party to take advantage of that tremendous opportunity.
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"This is not the hill to live, let alone die, for.
You have unrealistically high expectations of us."
-- Mitch McConnell
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"This is not the hill to live, let alone die, for.
You have unrealistically high expectations of us."
-- Mitch McConnell
Posted by: ShainS at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (UWEl3)
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>>Trump lost by 5% in VA, though probably not one of his real targets. The demo is going left, but that is true everywhere.
Seem to recall that 60K VA felons had their voting rights restored right before the election in order for Hillary to get that win.
Seem to recall that 60K VA felons had their voting rights restored right before the election in order for Hillary to get that win.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (W+vEI)
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Donald Trump fights like a Democrat. This enrages the Democrats and appalls the GOP.
The natural order gets upended and all of that.
The natural order gets upended and all of that.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (hLRSq)
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we've seen mentally disturbed legislators in the past, there are several in the US Congress right now. But usually they try to hide it at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Maxine and Frederica don't do no hiding!
we've seen mentally disturbed legislators in the past, there are several in the US Congress right now. But usually they try to hide it at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Maxine and Frederica don't do no hiding!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (IqV8l)
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>>It's, what, normally 30-40 seats that flip in the House?
Well there has been a pretty big spread including Obama's high water mark of 63 which was only topped by FDR way back when but I'd guess that would be a pretty good average. And the biggest numbers tend to come in the first mid-term of a 2 term presidency.
Well there has been a pretty big spread including Obama's high water mark of 63 which was only topped by FDR way back when but I'd guess that would be a pretty good average. And the biggest numbers tend to come in the first mid-term of a 2 term presidency.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
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10 Day 365 and Hillary will never be taking questions from the slobbering love affair press while standing next to other heads of state in foreign countries.
We won't get to hear her expound at great length about the success of her happy fun camps and gun buyback programs and I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at November 08, 2017 11:35 AM (5XB8C)
Hillary gun buyback program would informally be labeled the "Grave for Guns Exchange."
10 Day 365 and Hillary will never be taking questions from the slobbering love affair press while standing next to other heads of state in foreign countries.
We won't get to hear her expound at great length about the success of her happy fun camps and gun buyback programs and I'm okay with that.
Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at November 08, 2017 11:35 AM (5XB8C)
Hillary gun buyback program would informally be labeled the "Grave for Guns Exchange."
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (e1mEI)
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68 >>There's a McDonalds within 1,000 feet of the White House
Well, if Bill Clinton could jog to it...it had to be close.
Did he order extra special sauce?
Doesn't need to. He always keeps a supply with him.
Well, if Bill Clinton could jog to it...it had to be close.
Did he order extra special sauce?
Doesn't need to. He always keeps a supply with him.
Posted by: Anachronda at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (sGtp+)
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In Oregon? It's so cloudy the houses will be sending electricity back to the sky.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (hLRSq)
That's the thing. There are actual parts of the country where you'll recover your investment in solar energy before Mother Nature tears your panels to shreds. There are maps available on the Internet that show you these locations.
Oregon will not be in the 'favorable' side on any map. Oh, once in a while, for X number of days per year. A drop in the bucket.
In Oregon? It's so cloudy the houses will be sending electricity back to the sky.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (hLRSq)
That's the thing. There are actual parts of the country where you'll recover your investment in solar energy before Mother Nature tears your panels to shreds. There are maps available on the Internet that show you these locations.
Oregon will not be in the 'favorable' side on any map. Oh, once in a while, for X number of days per year. A drop in the bucket.
Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche Tractor Seat Supply at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (ajiE5)
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@179
Don't forget a year ago today, Hillary had an 85% chance of winning!
http://tinyurl.com/yd56atnh
Don't forget a year ago today, Hillary had an 85% chance of winning!
http://tinyurl.com/yd56atnh
Posted by: George at November 08, 2017 12:08 PM (eDKt2)
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>>>You mean the party that kept him at arms length and couldn't wait to get in front of a camera and let people now how disappointed they were in their candidate during the election?
Do you think that petulantly holding grudges and instigating with your own party will be an effective strategy? You also did not address the feuding with his own Cabinet, which included early supporter.
Do you think that petulantly holding grudges and instigating with your own party will be an effective strategy? You also did not address the feuding with his own Cabinet, which included early supporter.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 12:09 PM (CFx1m)
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137 "New construction must be pre-wired for Solar Panels and all new homes must have an electric charger installed."
In Oregon? It's so cloudy the houses will be sending electricity back to the sky.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (hLRSq)
This just in: Oregon has just passed a law requiring all homeowners to install bright lights shining on their solar panels.
In Oregon? It's so cloudy the houses will be sending electricity back to the sky.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:01 PM (hLRSq)
This just in: Oregon has just passed a law requiring all homeowners to install bright lights shining on their solar panels.
Posted by: John Moses Browning at November 08, 2017 12:09 PM (kZSbN)
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I'm just hoping a few Supreme Court Justices decide to step down while there's a Republican Senate to approve their replacements.
If they wait after the midterm, it could be a different story and Trump will have to do like Reagan and nominate consensus type candidates that will end up being liberal justices.
If they wait after the midterm, it could be a different story and Trump will have to do like Reagan and nominate consensus type candidates that will end up being liberal justices.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:09 PM (lKmt3)
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I see some glimmers of hope in my little neck of the woods. A neighboring community is having a children's essay contest: "How Can I Support Americanism?". And another neighboring township cleaned out the demonist rats nest by publicly outing their lies and deceptions and prior arrests. This little group of local republicans fight like Trump.
Their website: chfactcheck.org
FB page is Chester Heights Republican Candidates
Their website: chfactcheck.org
FB page is Chester Heights Republican Candidates
Posted by: kallisto at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (kD8Fh)
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There's something that's been bothering me about Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Its a fun movie that was goofy and entertaining, without depth or any real meaning.
But I think the writer was trying to make some kind of big sucker punch statement.
Consider: Starlord the freebooting young guy following his whims meets his father finally. Dad wants him to settle down and become part of the family "business." He is full of values and traditions about the family, and is very persuasive about how this system works and Starlord is now willing to join the family and stop his roaming ways.
But wait! Old man dad with the family values turns out to have built it all on a pile of bones! He's murdered hundreds, perhaps thousands in his effort to build a home!
It just feels like some kind of establishment tradition old vs young and free and wild! thing. Especially with the "Father and Son" song played at the end.
But I think the writer was trying to make some kind of big sucker punch statement.
Consider: Starlord the freebooting young guy following his whims meets his father finally. Dad wants him to settle down and become part of the family "business." He is full of values and traditions about the family, and is very persuasive about how this system works and Starlord is now willing to join the family and stop his roaming ways.
But wait! Old man dad with the family values turns out to have built it all on a pile of bones! He's murdered hundreds, perhaps thousands in his effort to build a home!
It just feels like some kind of establishment tradition old vs young and free and wild! thing. Especially with the "Father and Son" song played at the end.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (39g3+)
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That's correct. Unfortunately, he hasn't learned that you don't have to attend every argument you're invited to.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (Bdeb0)
True, but being accused of insulting a Gold Star widow during a condolence call is an accusation that you can't let go without saying something in your own defense.
That's correct. Unfortunately, he hasn't learned that you don't have to attend every argument you're invited to.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 11:57 AM (Bdeb0)
True, but being accused of insulting a Gold Star widow during a condolence call is an accusation that you can't let go without saying something in your own defense.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (MINbv)
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That's disappointing and one of the problems with
corporate these days. The whole point of the McDonalds scheme was to
have a consistent experience at any one of their stores whether or not
it was a franchise. And in the 80s, they were positively maniacal about
maintaining those standards. I used to work for The Scotsman back then,
and it was a real thing to spot check all stores, McOpCo (corporate
owned) and franchises. God help the staff if the report came back with
problems.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (qtpPt)
I don't do fast food unless there is absolutely no other option, In my travels, along the interstate, I'll look for a Cracker Barrel or anAwful Waffle House. I know for sure that what I ate at one of their restaurants in Florida is going to be consistent with what I eat at one of their restaurants in Missouri or Kentucky, ect.
On the other hand, when I'm going through a small town on a US hwy route, I'll try to find a Mom and Pop restaurant
corporate these days. The whole point of the McDonalds scheme was to
have a consistent experience at any one of their stores whether or not
it was a franchise. And in the 80s, they were positively maniacal about
maintaining those standards. I used to work for The Scotsman back then,
and it was a real thing to spot check all stores, McOpCo (corporate
owned) and franchises. God help the staff if the report came back with
problems.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 08, 2017 11:50 AM (qtpPt)
I don't do fast food unless there is absolutely no other option, In my travels, along the interstate, I'll look for a Cracker Barrel or an
On the other hand, when I'm going through a small town on a US hwy route, I'll try to find a Mom and Pop restaurant
Posted by: Traveling Man at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (R5lpX)
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>>>Brandolini's Bullshit Asymmetry Principle states that it takes an order of magnitude more effort to refute bullshit than to create it, BSG.
Trump ability in System 1 vs System 2 thinking may be interesting to ponder.
Trump ability in System 1 vs System 2 thinking may be interesting to ponder.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (CFx1m)
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Seem to recall that 60K VA felons had their voting rights restored right before the election in order for Hillary to get that win.
Posted by: Lizzy
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Wasnt that slapped down by the courts in VA?
Posted by: Lizzy
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Wasnt that slapped down by the courts in VA?
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:10 PM (lKmt3)
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>>That running as a far leftward candidate will win? Yeah, show us that...
Except that's not what Gillespie did. Every single report I've read claims he tried to run on a Trump like platform without claiming Trump.
Do you have some examples of Gillespie running left?
Except that's not what Gillespie did. Every single report I've read claims he tried to run on a Trump like platform without claiming Trump.
Do you have some examples of Gillespie running left?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:11 PM (/tuJf)
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And another neighboring township cleaned out the demonist rats
should be "demunist". but actually demonist is better.
should be "demunist". but actually demonist is better.
Posted by: kallisto at November 08, 2017 12:11 PM (kD8Fh)
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>>I'd be surprised if most Southern states remain red for more than another ten years. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:06 PM (GQSqS)
I've been counting on growth in the South (RR stocks show the trend), and I don't think the population growth there is disaffected Republicans leaving the north. It's ambitious Aztecs flooding east from Texas.
So, yes, a blue South is in the cards.
I've been counting on growth in the South (RR stocks show the trend), and I don't think the population growth there is disaffected Republicans leaving the north. It's ambitious Aztecs flooding east from Texas.
So, yes, a blue South is in the cards.
Posted by: Zod at November 08, 2017 12:11 PM (Bdeb0)
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New construction must be pre-wired for Solar Panels and all new homes must have an electric charger installed."
So it's the California thingy, right? Which, btw, means nothing - builders have figured out that by running a line to the attic means "compliance"...
Snort.
So it's the California thingy, right? Which, btw, means nothing - builders have figured out that by running a line to the attic means "compliance"...
Snort.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:11 PM (MINbv)
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Gillespie was an open borders squish. Trump is right that he embraced nothing of why Trump is now president.
Additionally, he was yet one more carpetbagger calling us racist yahoos for refusing to repudiate our great-great grandfathers (and uncles, and cousins) who fought honorably for the CSA... granted, he did allow that some localities might just choose to put the statues into "context" of what racist yahoos we were instead of removing/destroying them in a fit of Talibanesque pique but his basic position did not vary from Northam's.
Additionally, he was yet one more carpetbagger calling us racist yahoos for refusing to repudiate our great-great grandfathers (and uncles, and cousins) who fought honorably for the CSA... granted, he did allow that some localities might just choose to put the statues into "context" of what racist yahoos we were instead of removing/destroying them in a fit of Talibanesque pique but his basic position did not vary from Northam's.
Posted by: redbanzai at November 08, 2017 12:12 PM (f5uaD)
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>>Maxine and Frederica don't do no hiding!
*ahem*
Maxine Waters is crazy like a fox, seeing as she was just named one of Glamour's Women of the Year based on her 'Impeach Trump!' antics.
I get that Trump makes us cringe with some of his petty twitter-spats. It can be unpleasant. But how is it that the Dems can get away with all sorts of petty, obnoxious, and at times, downright ugly stuff without lectures on appropriate behavior? Because Waters is not lectured by her own side about decorum, she is rewarded. They all are.
*ahem*
Maxine Waters is crazy like a fox, seeing as she was just named one of Glamour's Women of the Year based on her 'Impeach Trump!' antics.
I get that Trump makes us cringe with some of his petty twitter-spats. It can be unpleasant. But how is it that the Dems can get away with all sorts of petty, obnoxious, and at times, downright ugly stuff without lectures on appropriate behavior? Because Waters is not lectured by her own side about decorum, she is rewarded. They all are.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 12:12 PM (W+vEI)
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re tranny legislator:
I know Bob Marshall, he has served an adjoining district for quite a while.
He has not been quite right in the head since a couple weeks before his first election, when his son was killed in an accident. It was devastating to him, but he went on to win.
He started out as a solid fiscal/social conservative who was also a likeable guy, willing to discuss with people and mannered in policy disagreement.
He deteriorated into something of a caricature of social conservatism, who was reliably elected with a strong base who liked voting up god and down gays.
In reality he was a guy who stood for "no". he often came into our county and assisted dems on some issues, because voting "no" to roads, etc for environmental reasons was on his list--some of the things he did in our county bordered on illegal, but squeaked by, They were certainly unethical, and against elected Rs.
He was ALWAYS reelected, and the people they used to run against him were the kind of candidate that you run just to get a baseline, usually with some outré fillip: gay fireman, now trans thrash metal woman.
I thought transwoman was another baseline.
She whomped him, and she doesn't have to do squat for her entire term--she's already done her job just by getting elected.
smh
I know Bob Marshall, he has served an adjoining district for quite a while.
He has not been quite right in the head since a couple weeks before his first election, when his son was killed in an accident. It was devastating to him, but he went on to win.
He started out as a solid fiscal/social conservative who was also a likeable guy, willing to discuss with people and mannered in policy disagreement.
He deteriorated into something of a caricature of social conservatism, who was reliably elected with a strong base who liked voting up god and down gays.
In reality he was a guy who stood for "no". he often came into our county and assisted dems on some issues, because voting "no" to roads, etc for environmental reasons was on his list--some of the things he did in our county bordered on illegal, but squeaked by, They were certainly unethical, and against elected Rs.
He was ALWAYS reelected, and the people they used to run against him were the kind of candidate that you run just to get a baseline, usually with some outré fillip: gay fireman, now trans thrash metal woman.
I thought transwoman was another baseline.
She whomped him, and she doesn't have to do squat for her entire term--she's already done her job just by getting elected.
smh
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (ru28e)
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There are actual parts of the country where you'll recover your investment in solar energy before Mother Nature tears your panels to shreds. There are maps available on the Internet that show you these locations.
Yeah under ideal conditions, you can generate enough energy to run part of your home on solar. The lights in a few rooms, for instance.
Yeah under ideal conditions, you can generate enough energy to run part of your home on solar. The lights in a few rooms, for instance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
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Hope Fen comes back. I miss her.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (QC/4S)
Fen said she was taking a week off for a number of reasons. She'll be back.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 11:54 AM (QC/4S)
Fen said she was taking a week off for a number of reasons. She'll be back.
Posted by: SteveOReno at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (2sCft)
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With the fatal demographics being put in place now, and the migration of poisonous Progressivism to Conservative states...(see: Colorado, Virginia..).. all of the whining and carping about Trump being so declasse and classless will be moot in 2020.
So many judge him on his personality... but we are kind of superficial now... strong leaders are often rather crude.
So many judge him on his personality... but we are kind of superficial now... strong leaders are often rather crude.
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (zSVEm)
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Every single report I've read claims he tried to run on a Trump like platform "
Really? Where? Everything I saw (even whilst in the Commonwealth this summer) showed him to be as near to President Trump as a campaigner as Douglas Wilder.
Really? Where? Everything I saw (even whilst in the Commonwealth this summer) showed him to be as near to President Trump as a campaigner as Douglas Wilder.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (MINbv)
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"In most instances he is defending himself. The war widow was one. Frederica Wilson started it all."
right, and recall Charlottesville was a setup by an Occupy guy. All Trump said was both sides had some good people. Guys on the right even demanded Trump renounce every single "Unite the Right" person (some just showed up for the statue thing) while even Ryan basically sided with Antifa.
Antifa is the funded terrorist group ... they smash and attack at times with support of cops. Friggin Ryan supported them ... the ones that showed up to assault ... cameras conveniently at the ready. (then one idiot got "triggered" and smashed his car into people, so of course down come more statues, even Washington)
Americanism is what we can unite around ... jobs for Detroit? Isn't there an R mayor there that won re-election? Focus.
right, and recall Charlottesville was a setup by an Occupy guy. All Trump said was both sides had some good people. Guys on the right even demanded Trump renounce every single "Unite the Right" person (some just showed up for the statue thing) while even Ryan basically sided with Antifa.
Antifa is the funded terrorist group ... they smash and attack at times with support of cops. Friggin Ryan supported them ... the ones that showed up to assault ... cameras conveniently at the ready. (then one idiot got "triggered" and smashed his car into people, so of course down come more statues, even Washington)
Americanism is what we can unite around ... jobs for Detroit? Isn't there an R mayor there that won re-election? Focus.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (/aIFg)
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But how is it that the Dems can get away with all sorts of petty, obnoxious, and at times, downright ugly stuff without lectures on appropriate behavior?
She has full unflagging support from commie progda, AKA Legacy Media. The megaphone supports her.
She has full unflagging support from commie progda, AKA Legacy Media. The megaphone supports her.
Posted by: kallisto at November 08, 2017 12:14 PM (kD8Fh)
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There's a YouTube video of Rachel Maddow explaining to her viewers before the election how it would be impossible for Trump to win. Even if Trump won all the red states, and all the red-leaning states, and even if he also won all the toss-up states ("and nobody ever wins all the toss-up states, that would be insane"), he still could not get to 270 EC votes. It was impossible for Trump to win. Just could not happen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYCoHQhVQI
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (BXf9o)
Ya gotta love those Russians!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYCoHQhVQI
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 08, 2017 12:07 PM (BXf9o)
Ya gotta love those Russians!
Posted by: John Moses Browning at November 08, 2017 12:14 PM (kZSbN)
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I do agree with this. The Army widow was a no win situation that he should stayed away from. I also wish he would stop talking about the NFL protests. That said, he has been really good on his Asian trip.
You may have forgotten that the Army widow was a setup by the Rodeo Clown Queen to ensnare PDT, which both he and Gen. Kelly handled with professionalism and grit.
And Colon Kapernick was the one who started the whole anthem protest last year by kneeling and wearing the "cops as pigs" socks to practice in response to the MFM lie of "hands up, don't shoot" which, if you'll also recall, never happened.
PDT doesn't pick so many fights as he just fights back against a hostile, anti-American, progressive media. It's about time someone did. W damn sure didn't do it, which is what got us Bronco Bama's Reign of Error.
You may have forgotten that the Army widow was a setup by the Rodeo Clown Queen to ensnare PDT, which both he and Gen. Kelly handled with professionalism and grit.
And Colon Kapernick was the one who started the whole anthem protest last year by kneeling and wearing the "cops as pigs" socks to practice in response to the MFM lie of "hands up, don't shoot" which, if you'll also recall, never happened.
PDT doesn't pick so many fights as he just fights back against a hostile, anti-American, progressive media. It's about time someone did. W damn sure didn't do it, which is what got us Bronco Bama's Reign of Error.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2017 12:14 PM (tRaq7)
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The pollster who said that Hillary had a 98.2% chance still isn't talking to the pollster who said that Hillary had a 98.0% chance.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 08, 2017 12:14 PM (rnAwa)
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You mean the party that kept him at arms length and couldn't wait to get in front of a camera and let people now how disappointed they were in their candidate during the election?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (lKyWE)
BSG and PopeHeadGear like to talk about all of the divisiveness of Trump and how if we just followed decorum and gentlemanly combat, we would be winning. Yet, it's the internal party opposition that is the problem. How is Trump supposed to fix the problem of GOPe members who can't wait to blast him, members who change votes when they suddenly count, and members who only pay lip service to what they supposedly support? These people project as much as the Left.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:03 PM (lKyWE)
BSG and PopeHeadGear like to talk about all of the divisiveness of Trump and how if we just followed decorum and gentlemanly combat, we would be winning. Yet, it's the internal party opposition that is the problem. How is Trump supposed to fix the problem of GOPe members who can't wait to blast him, members who change votes when they suddenly count, and members who only pay lip service to what they supposedly support? These people project as much as the Left.
Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at November 08, 2017 12:14 PM (+R7L/)
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The Virginia GOPe candidates wouldn't even own up to their party affiliation in commercials.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (LjR2k)
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Gillespie was a terrible candidate. I mean the guy's a former lobbyist and Bush lackey, but no elected experience.
Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate. Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state that Trump lost is not surprising.
It's the shelacking across the state even in the red areas that has me concerned.
Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate. Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state that Trump lost is not surprising.
It's the shelacking across the state even in the red areas that has me concerned.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (lKmt3)
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Okay, body man = personal assistant. That makes sense - msot CEOs have them and I imagine the President would too. Michelle Obama had an entire entourage of them apparently.
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (kZSbN)
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>>Really? Where? Everything I saw (even whilst in the Commonwealth this summer) showed him to be as near to President Trump as a campaigner as Douglas Wilder.
Well you're making the claim he ran as a far left candidate so can you provide me some evidence of that?
Northam was slamming Gillespie over and over as running a racist campaign because he opposed sanctuary cities, demanded that the state work with federal ICE officials on illegals and went hard on MS-13 which is a problem in VA.
What were his leftish positions?
Well you're making the claim he ran as a far left candidate so can you provide me some evidence of that?
Northam was slamming Gillespie over and over as running a racist campaign because he opposed sanctuary cities, demanded that the state work with federal ICE officials on illegals and went hard on MS-13 which is a problem in VA.
What were his leftish positions?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (/tuJf)
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"Do you think that petulantly holding grudges and instigating with your own party will be an effective strategy?"
You clearly do, because that's how you behave around here.
You clearly do, because that's how you behave around here.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (XdYF3)
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One of the people that are accused of molesting Corey Haim?
Charlie Sheen. When Haim was 13.
Now, there's no evidence and its just a rumor but... would it surprise anyone that demented omnisexual pervert Sheen did it?
Charlie Sheen. When Haim was 13.
Now, there's no evidence and its just a rumor but... would it surprise anyone that demented omnisexual pervert Sheen did it?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (39g3+)
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PDT doesn't pick so many fights as he just fights back against a hostile, anti-American, progressive media. It's about time someone did. W damn sure didn't do it, which is what got us Bronco Bama's Reign of Error."
Wowza. That needs to be engraved on every GOPer's forehead.
Esp. chunky Rove...
Wowza. That needs to be engraved on every GOPer's forehead.
Esp. chunky Rove...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (MINbv)
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220 Okay, body man = personal assistant. That makes sense - msot CEOs have them and I imagine the President would too. Michelle Obama had an entire entourage of them apparently.
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (a0IVu)
Didn't she have the largest number of staff of any FLOTUS ever?
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (a0IVu)
Didn't she have the largest number of staff of any FLOTUS ever?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (NWiLs)
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There's a McDonald's within 1,000 feet of the White House, but Trump's body man frequented a McD's much further away
Good job there Ryan. That's enough to start the impeachment process
Good job there Ryan. That's enough to start the impeachment process
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2017 12:17 PM (493sH)
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I wouldn't be surprised if gun buyers were already vetted (4473, NICS) a lot more strongly than immigrants.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 08, 2017 12:17 PM (Ktb8D)
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This just in: Oregon has just passed a law requiring all homeowners to install bright lights shining on their solar panels.
Posted by: John Moses Browning at November 08, 2017 12:09 PM (kZSbN)
"Toyota of Portland, Service Department, how can I help you?"
"My Prius is broke."
"What's wrong sir?"
"I plugged it into the charger, and it won't charge. It just creaks and groans."
"Collapse? Sir - do you have solar panels?"
"Yes, I am environmentally conscious."
"Where they switched on?"
"Of course, I was drawing energy from the -"
"My God man! This is Oregon! It's so cloudy the sky is sucking your car dry! Unplug it now!"
"I- I can't unplug it."
"Why not?"
"I just watched it; it screamed and collapsed inward, imploded, right into the charger..."
"GET OUT OF THE HOUSE NOW!"
*scream*"
"Sir!"
"Sweet Gaia, it's got me, the pain the--"
*slurping sounds, then phone disconnects*
Posted by: John Moses Browning at November 08, 2017 12:09 PM (kZSbN)
"Toyota of Portland, Service Department, how can I help you?"
"My Prius is broke."
"What's wrong sir?"
"I plugged it into the charger, and it won't charge. It just creaks and groans."
"Collapse? Sir - do you have solar panels?"
"Yes, I am environmentally conscious."
"Where they switched on?"
"Of course, I was drawing energy from the -"
"My God man! This is Oregon! It's so cloudy the sky is sucking your car dry! Unplug it now!"
"I- I can't unplug it."
"Why not?"
"I just watched it; it screamed and collapsed inward, imploded, right into the charger..."
"GET OUT OF THE HOUSE NOW!"
*scream*"
"Sir!"
"Sweet Gaia, it's got me, the pain the--"
*slurping sounds, then phone disconnects*
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:17 PM (hLRSq)
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Posted by: Eli Cash at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (a+WIL)
Oh that's a week in the barrel. There wasn't even text in it.
Oh that's a week in the barrel. There wasn't even text in it.
Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2017 12:17 PM (Enq6K)
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There was a good article that was talking about how awful Gillespie's campaign was.
Did anyone see some of Gillespie's direct mail?
It's pretty obvious to me Gillespie's campaign is what a Jeb! national campaign would have looked like.
Basically a "I'm a nice guy centrist who is going to bring civility to politics. Even MSNBC likes me!"
Did anyone see some of Gillespie's direct mail?
It's pretty obvious to me Gillespie's campaign is what a Jeb! national campaign would have looked like.
Basically a "I'm a nice guy centrist who is going to bring civility to politics. Even MSNBC likes me!"
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (lKmt3)
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>>>How is Trump supposed to fix the problem of GOPe members who can't wait to blast him, members who change votes when they suddenly count, and members who only pay lip service to what they supposedly support?
I already said it. Crack skulls in private, not on Twitter.
I think alpha male theory is bullshit, but if you buy into it -ask yourself: who gets into Twitter slap fights? The pudknockers, right?
Crack skulls in private.
I already said it. Crack skulls in private, not on Twitter.
I think alpha male theory is bullshit, but if you buy into it -ask yourself: who gets into Twitter slap fights? The pudknockers, right?
Crack skulls in private.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (CFx1m)
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Well you're making the claim he ran as a far left candidate so can you provide me some evidence of that? "
As soon as you provide yours. Logic dictates that assertions unproven can just be counterclaimed.
Besides, you're not reading other's posts...
As soon as you provide yours. Logic dictates that assertions unproven can just be counterclaimed.
Besides, you're not reading other's posts...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (MINbv)
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Didn't she have the largest number of staff of any FLOTUS ever?
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (NWiLs)
Around 20 people, at any one time. Current Flotus has 4 or 5 only.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:16 PM (NWiLs)
Around 20 people, at any one time. Current Flotus has 4 or 5 only.
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (a0IVu)
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Consider: Starlord the freebooting young guy following his whims meets his father finally. Dad wants him to settle down and become part of the family "business." He is full of values and traditions about the family, and is very persuasive about how this system works and Starlord is now willing to join the family and stop his roaming ways.
But wait! Old man dad with the family values turns out to have built it all on a pile of bones! He's murdered hundreds, perhaps thousands in his effort to build a home!
It just feels like some kind of establishment tradition old vs young and free and wild! thing. Especially with the "Father and Son" song played at the end.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
If anything, dad is the liberal locust, destroyer of worlds.
Son is family values. Rejects destroyer of worlds and picks friends/family.
Destroys worlds destroyer.
But wait! Old man dad with the family values turns out to have built it all on a pile of bones! He's murdered hundreds, perhaps thousands in his effort to build a home!
It just feels like some kind of establishment tradition old vs young and free and wild! thing. Especially with the "Father and Son" song played at the end.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
If anything, dad is the liberal locust, destroyer of worlds.
Son is family values. Rejects destroyer of worlds and picks friends/family.
Destroys worlds destroyer.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (vVRlw)
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Okay, body man = personal assistant. That makes sense - msot CEOs have them and I imagine the President would too.
S. Baldrick at your service
S. Baldrick at your service
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (493sH)
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>>Didn't she have the largest number of staff of any FLOTUS ever?
Her staff was certainly the Girthiest of all the First Ladies.
Her staff was certainly the Girthiest of all the First Ladies.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM (Dp7Gq)
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Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate. Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state that Trump lost is not surprising.
Also a VMI grad and sitting Lt Governor.
Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate. Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state that Trump lost is not surprising.
Also a VMI grad and sitting Lt Governor.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM (lKyWE)
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We have a ton of never-trump/"this is not who we are" elite GOPers, and I've been hankering to start asking them "who is we?"
And I'm starting to want to smack some of them.
I think we have some poisonous identity politics going on that has ZERO to do with race, sex, gender, etc, and a great deal to do with display/preening of a different kind.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)
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I believe you ... but wow, that's insane. Do they actually believe the crap they hear on the news about the President (let alone any other subject)? If so, I'd think they'd have switched to Dems by now. I guess they must be people who hire illegals, or otherwise benefit from some sort of pork that they fear will be cut off?
And I'm starting to want to smack some of them.
I think we have some poisonous identity politics going on that has ZERO to do with race, sex, gender, etc, and a great deal to do with display/preening of a different kind.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)
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I believe you ... but wow, that's insane. Do they actually believe the crap they hear on the news about the President (let alone any other subject)? If so, I'd think they'd have switched to Dems by now. I guess they must be people who hire illegals, or otherwise benefit from some sort of pork that they fear will be cut off?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM (/qEW2)
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It's the shelacking across the state even in the red areas that has me concerned.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (lKmt3)
similar occurred in PA. It was a drop-off of Presidential "R" voters and an increase of 2016 donkey voters. Folks like my boyfriend, who was a first time voter in 2016, didn't show up yesterday. And donkey voters who figgered skankles had it in the bag, didn't vote in November 2016...showed up because pussyhat!!!@!
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (lKmt3)
similar occurred in PA. It was a drop-off of Presidential "R" voters and an increase of 2016 donkey voters. Folks like my boyfriend, who was a first time voter in 2016, didn't show up yesterday. And donkey voters who figgered skankles had it in the bag, didn't vote in November 2016...showed up because pussyhat!!!@!
Posted by: kallisto at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM (kD8Fh)
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6 When did reporters decide they needed to pursue their left wing agenda at all costs and all circumstances even when it reveals their fundamental brain damage?
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (nBr1j
About the time that virtue signalling became the thing all the cool kids do. Now she can put "speaking truth to power" on her resume. Oh, and get a couple of free drinks at the hotel bar.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 08, 2017 11:33 AM (nBr1j
About the time that virtue signalling became the thing all the cool kids do. Now she can put "speaking truth to power" on her resume. Oh, and get a couple of free drinks at the hotel bar.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (di1hb)
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NeverTrump: Trump picks fights all the time, he's antagonistic and it hurts him and us!!!
*Trump wins
NT: Extenuating circumstances, he's still a loose cannon that's bad for America and Republicans!
*Trump wins
NT: While technically a victory for conservatives, mark my words he's no good!
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
NT: I'm telling you he's dooming us all!
*Trump doesn't win
NT: See, I told you his crazy rhetoric has ruined the party!!!!!
Look I don't really like President Trump but the guy is more conservative than the last 4 presidents and he'st he only president in my life that has governed more conservative than he campaigned. He seems to be succeeding despite doing and saying things I think are cringy and wish he would not... so either apparently he knows what he's doing, or the culture likes what they see.
*Trump wins
NT: Extenuating circumstances, he's still a loose cannon that's bad for America and Republicans!
*Trump wins
NT: While technically a victory for conservatives, mark my words he's no good!
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
*Trump wins
NT: I'm telling you he's dooming us all!
*Trump doesn't win
NT: See, I told you his crazy rhetoric has ruined the party!!!!!
Look I don't really like President Trump but the guy is more conservative than the last 4 presidents and he'st he only president in my life that has governed more conservative than he campaigned. He seems to be succeeding despite doing and saying things I think are cringy and wish he would not... so either apparently he knows what he's doing, or the culture likes what they see.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (39g3+)
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Sleazy OT - Over at Twitchy - Charlie Sheen raped Corey Haim when he was 13. *ugh, these people make me sick*
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (a0IVu)
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That's good to know. That means when Twitter blocks someone, they're interfering with their first amendment rights.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (4ErVI)
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Also, Michele's balls are hairy and asymmetrical.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (Dp7Gq)
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Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:17 PM (hLRSq)
Great, but you forgot to put
[LIONSGATE]
at the start.
Great, but you forgot to put
[LIONSGATE]
at the start.
Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (wwd4n)
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The Republicans are still trying to answer to a small number of monied globalist manipulators instead of to the public.
Regarding the latest mean girl chickenshit regarding which exact McDonald's iis used,
1. Someone in Twitter comments notes that use of multiple sppliers for WH food supplies is protocol.
2. Someone else notes that some of the area McDonalds are better than others.
3. Are we going to change DJTs gangland nickname from Donny Two Scoops to Donny Far Burger or something?
Regarding the latest mean girl chickenshit regarding which exact McDonald's iis used,
1. Someone in Twitter comments notes that use of multiple sppliers for WH food supplies is protocol.
2. Someone else notes that some of the area McDonalds are better than others.
3. Are we going to change DJTs gangland nickname from Donny Two Scoops to Donny Far Burger or something?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (efEMG)
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Yeah under ideal conditions, you can generate enough energy to run part of your home on solar. The lights in a few rooms, for instance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
Not necessarily true. Here in SoCal our house is a net contributor to the grid. Our electricity bill is negative.
Now I'm not a solar nut, but it made sense for us here, especially with the libtards and their idiotic energy policies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
Not necessarily true. Here in SoCal our house is a net contributor to the grid. Our electricity bill is negative.
Now I'm not a solar nut, but it made sense for us here, especially with the libtards and their idiotic energy policies.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (kZSbN)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (MINbv)
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My grand total exposure to Gillespie's campaign - apart from the uproar over the outrageous racist Dem ad with the trucks chasing widdle precious chillens of colour- was 30 seconds of an interview with Hannity yesterday, as I pulled into the shooting range parking lot.
True story.
Only thing I remember: when asked about Trump, he said "I don't know the president, but I can work with him". Um. Dead neutral stand-offish, I believe, would be the term for this posture. Make of this what you will.
My grand total exposure to Gillespie's campaign - apart from the uproar over the outrageous racist Dem ad with the trucks chasing widdle precious chillens of colour- was 30 seconds of an interview with Hannity yesterday, as I pulled into the shooting range parking lot.
True story.
Only thing I remember: when asked about Trump, he said "I don't know the president, but I can work with him". Um. Dead neutral stand-offish, I believe, would be the term for this posture. Make of this what you will.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (QDnY+)
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JackStraw I am going to say Gillespie did not run a left campaign but despite media reports (I know they are wrong or lying hard to believe) Gillespie did not run a Trumpy campaign. As you have well noted had he run a Trumpy campaign or not would not have mattered much. Trump lost Virginia too.
Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (i1tGd)
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Most overlooked story of last night was Maine. They voted to implement Onamacare medicaid. This in a state that has a GOP governor, an actual Republican. He vetoed the expansion which is why it went to the ballot box.
And it won by 20 points.
TRUMP WON 1 Electoral Vote in Maine as well.
This to me is very troubling and tells me Ocare is here to stay and socialized medicine is not far off
And it won by 20 points.
TRUMP WON 1 Electoral Vote in Maine as well.
This to me is very troubling and tells me Ocare is here to stay and socialized medicine is not far off
Posted by: Salon 25 at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (BSLTV)
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"13 I would imagine for safety, Trump's burger would be procured at a variety of non-obvious places, no?
We already know how juvenile the Left is - and sometimes dangerous - based on how they've treated random police officers in restaurants since #BLM started. The worst I recall is the broken glass in the food.
Posted by: Lizzy "
Exactly what I was thinking.
We already know how juvenile the Left is - and sometimes dangerous - based on how they've treated random police officers in restaurants since #BLM started. The worst I recall is the broken glass in the food.
Posted by: Lizzy "
Exactly what I was thinking.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (Ktb8D)
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Yeah under ideal conditions, you can generate enough energy to run part of your home on solar. The lights in a few rooms, for instance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
I have a friend over in 'jersey with solar panels. He has to monitor his generation for maximum return. If he returns too much to the grid he gets less money. But he has a slew of them across both his house and garage.
But he doesn't have a wife and children using electricity all day long. So that's part of the equation.
I'm not a solar 'denier'. It has a place, but it's not for everyone. I had solar panels to warm pool water on a former house. They worked well. But time and elements are tough on anything outside 24/7/365.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
I have a friend over in 'jersey with solar panels. He has to monitor his generation for maximum return. If he returns too much to the grid he gets less money. But he has a slew of them across both his house and garage.
But he doesn't have a wife and children using electricity all day long. So that's part of the equation.
I'm not a solar 'denier'. It has a place, but it's not for everyone. I had solar panels to warm pool water on a former house. They worked well. But time and elements are tough on anything outside 24/7/365.
Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche Tractor Seat Supply at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (ajiE5)
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But how is it that the Dems can get away with all sorts of petty, obnoxious, and at times, downright ugly stuff without lectures on appropriate behavior?
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Ha. We have the top dog of the DNC admitting that she feared for her life after Seth Rich was murdered. There would be 24 hour news reports and continual FBI investigations left and right against Trump et al had Priebus made a similar statement.
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Ha. We have the top dog of the DNC admitting that she feared for her life after Seth Rich was murdered. There would be 24 hour news reports and continual FBI investigations left and right against Trump et al had Priebus made a similar statement.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (GQSqS)
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Basically a "I'm a nice guy centrist who is going to bring civility to politics. Even MSNBC likes me!"
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (lKmt3)
Even with all of those guys driving around in Confederate flag waving pick up trucks?
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (lKmt3)
Even with all of those guys driving around in Confederate flag waving pick up trucks?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (493sH)
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"Okay, is it effective?"
You're not, but you aren't half as smart or charismatic as Trump.
Plus, as others have said, he's fighting back. You're just trolling.
You're not, but you aren't half as smart or charismatic as Trump.
Plus, as others have said, he's fighting back. You're just trolling.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (XdYF3)
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If Gillespie was a Pervy Poppy Bush protégé, I'm glad he got skunked. Better a donkey who's out and proud than one who is undercover as a GOPe.
The donkeys are going to fractionize anyway because the fault lines are established: the grievance mongers are at odds with whitey limo libs in the burbs who already are growing uncomfortable with hostility from the POCs.
The donkeys are going to fractionize anyway because the fault lines are established: the grievance mongers are at odds with whitey limo libs in the burbs who already are growing uncomfortable with hostility from the POCs.
Posted by: kallisto at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (kD8Fh)
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BSG and PopeHeadGear like to talk about all of the divisiveness of Trump and how if we just followed decorum and gentlemanly combat, we would be winning.
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Always take the high road and you will always have your ass handed to you by those that don't.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't.
Sometimes you DO have to get down in the mud and wrestle the pig.
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Always take the high road and you will always have your ass handed to you by those that don't.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't.
Sometimes you DO have to get down in the mud and wrestle the pig.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2017 12:21 PM (vVRlw)
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Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate.
Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state
that Trump lost is not surprising.
Also a VMI grad and sitting Lt Governor.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM (lKyWE)
Not that it matters to your point but Northam is a pediatrician not a neurosurgeon. We were inundated with ads of him in a white coat and happy urchins with their parents.
Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state
that Trump lost is not surprising.
Also a VMI grad and sitting Lt Governor.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM (lKyWE)
Not that it matters to your point but Northam is a pediatrician not a neurosurgeon. We were inundated with ads of him in a white coat and happy urchins with their parents.
Posted by: redbanzai at November 08, 2017 12:22 PM (f5uaD)
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Charlie Sheen a sexual deviant? The hell you say.
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at November 08, 2017 12:22 PM (oZ6kz)
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>>Yeah under ideal conditions, you can generate enough energy to run part of your home on solar.
Yeah. The Toaster.
Yeah. The Toaster.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 12:22 PM (Dp7Gq)
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95 So I'll just say it. I'm "concerned". Label me a troll if you wish, but I think Republicans are headed to a bloodbath in 2018 and people are whistling past the graveyard with the VA results by saying "it's a blue state anyway!!!"
Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
I still think they WANT to lose in 2018 so the Demoncrats can fire up the ol' Impeachment and the GOPe can say it's not their fault, but they must dutifully go along "for the good of the nation".
Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
I still think they WANT to lose in 2018 so the Demoncrats can fire up the ol' Impeachment and the GOPe can say it's not their fault, but they must dutifully go along "for the good of the nation".
Posted by: Hikaru at November 08, 2017 12:22 PM (9TK8E)
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Except that's not what Gillespie did. Every single report I've read claims he tried to run on a Trump like platform without claiming Trump.
Do you have some examples of Gillespie running left?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:11 PM (/tuJf)
Look at the PJMedia article about the campaign. It's bland 90's-00's GOPe consultant approved mush. It wouldn't motivate anyone to get out and vote.
Do you have some examples of Gillespie running left?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:11 PM (/tuJf)
Look at the PJMedia article about the campaign. It's bland 90's-00's GOPe consultant approved mush. It wouldn't motivate anyone to get out and vote.
Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at November 08, 2017 12:22 PM (+R7L/)
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244 Sleazy OT - Over at Twitchy - Charlie Sheen raped Corey Haim when he was 13. *ugh, these people make me sick*
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (a0IVu)
Utterly vile.
Posted by: IC at November 08, 2017 12:20 PM (a0IVu)
Utterly vile.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (NWiLs)
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The thing that is "troubling" is they threw out the Repubs in the VA legislature... They even put in a Transwhatever
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (O2RFr)
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Solar panels in Bigfoot country?
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (LjR2k)
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If anything, dad is the liberal locust, destroyer of worlds.
Son is family values. Rejects destroyer of worlds and picks friends/family.
Well that's what the movie effectively says but consider: he rejects (and kills) the old man who was actually family to join his roaming band of freaky deakies like a hippie commune instead.
I'm not saying dad was a good guy: clearly the writer meant for him to be evil. I just suspect the writer meant for it to be an anti-past, anti-family tract, with inclusive diversity "family" being the real family rather than the blood one. I mean, consider the other blood family relationship in the movie: Nebula and Gamorra.
It didn't work out that way in practice, instead you got a lesson on fighting evil at any cost and protecting children, but I don't think that's what the writer meant it to be. I mean the first movie was basically anti-religion as well.
Son is family values. Rejects destroyer of worlds and picks friends/family.
Well that's what the movie effectively says but consider: he rejects (and kills) the old man who was actually family to join his roaming band of freaky deakies like a hippie commune instead.
I'm not saying dad was a good guy: clearly the writer meant for him to be evil. I just suspect the writer meant for it to be an anti-past, anti-family tract, with inclusive diversity "family" being the real family rather than the blood one. I mean, consider the other blood family relationship in the movie: Nebula and Gamorra.
It didn't work out that way in practice, instead you got a lesson on fighting evil at any cost and protecting children, but I don't think that's what the writer meant it to be. I mean the first movie was basically anti-religion as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)
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yeah opposition parties will win victories every now and then especially in deep farking blue New Jersey FFS
Posted by: kallisto at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (kD8Fh)
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>>>Plus, as others have said, he's fighting back. You're just trolling.
Apparently, trolling = having a different opinion. Good luck with that perspective.
Apparently, trolling = having a different opinion. Good luck with that perspective.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (CFx1m)
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>Didn't she have the largest number of staff of any FLOTUS ever?
Her staff was certainly the Girthiest of all the First Ladies.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM
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There's always a lively discussion about what President would win in hand-to-hand combat. Anybody know any First Ladies who would give Michelle any trouble?
Her staff was certainly the Girthiest of all the First Ladies.
Posted by: garrett at November 08, 2017 12:19 PM
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There's always a lively discussion about what President would win in hand-to-hand combat. Anybody know any First Ladies who would give Michelle any trouble?
Posted by: irright at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (pMGkg)
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Crack skulls in private.
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public punishment has a reason - message to the base, directly, shows where PDT stands. doing it in private may lead people to think that he agrees with this or that untenable person or position.
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public punishment has a reason - message to the base, directly, shows where PDT stands. doing it in private may lead people to think that he agrees with this or that untenable person or position.
Posted by: runner at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (QC/4S)
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So the 100% exact equivalent of requiring everyone
to have $2500 worth of gasoline on their property upon the purchase of a
new home.
Hey guys, the people buying $40K subcompacts (and $100K+ Teslas) as
second and third cars aren't put off by the costs. The people not
buying them are not put off by the costs, either. They're not buying
them because fairly mature electric vehicles STILL don't make sense to
99%+ of car-buying consumers.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (GQSqS)
I'll take the 2500 gallons of gasoline for the win Alex.
What these idiots don't realize is without government subsidies, solar panels and electric cars are a nonstarter for most of America. We looked into installing solar panels for our small cabin, less than 700 sq ft. They wanted over 30 Grand.
to have $2500 worth of gasoline on their property upon the purchase of a
new home.
Hey guys, the people buying $40K subcompacts (and $100K+ Teslas) as
second and third cars aren't put off by the costs. The people not
buying them are not put off by the costs, either. They're not buying
them because fairly mature electric vehicles STILL don't make sense to
99%+ of car-buying consumers.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:00 PM (GQSqS)
I'll take the 2500 gallons of gasoline for the win Alex.
What these idiots don't realize is without government subsidies, solar panels and electric cars are a nonstarter for most of America. We looked into installing solar panels for our small cabin, less than 700 sq ft. They wanted over 30 Grand.
Posted by: Traveling Man at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (R5lpX)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (MINbv)
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Well Michelle is a man.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 08, 2017 12:25 PM (LjR2k)
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Not that it matters to your point but Northam is a pediatrician not a neurosurgeon. We were inundated with ads of him in a white coat and happy urchins with their parents.
Oh, some of the lucky ones that weren't aborted like the good doctor advocates
Oh, some of the lucky ones that weren't aborted like the good doctor advocates
Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2017 12:25 PM (O2RFr)
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If true, a down-turn in 2016 Trump voter turnout (nationally) is discouraging. Do people think that one election, however epochal, is enough? Do they see almost everything they voted for being stymied by "their" party?
Think I saw that partisan-ID turnout in VA was identical to 2016, not boosted, but GOP was lower. Which if true points pretty directly at Gillespie.
If true, a down-turn in 2016 Trump voter turnout (nationally) is discouraging. Do people think that one election, however epochal, is enough? Do they see almost everything they voted for being stymied by "their" party?
Think I saw that partisan-ID turnout in VA was identical to 2016, not boosted, but GOP was lower. Which if true points pretty directly at Gillespie.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2017 12:25 PM (QDnY+)
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>>As soon as you provide yours. Logic dictates that assertions unproven can just be counterclaimed.
Well, leaving aside the fact that I just did on immigration and you didn't seem to read it, my point isn't not that he ran as a leftist or a rightist, it is that there is zero evidence that clinging to Trump was going to make him successful in a state where 1) Trump himself was not successful a year ago and 2) Dems historically win the governorship in outsized percentages and 3) Virginia has been turning blue for some time now do to immigration, both internal and external and a surging DC workforce living in northern VA.
If you want to talk about dangers I think there is a real and yuuuge danger of people believing that wherever Trump goes people will automatically fall in-line. There is zero evidence of this and lots to the contrary.
Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes, balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the Republican platform. So what't the problem?
Well, leaving aside the fact that I just did on immigration and you didn't seem to read it, my point isn't not that he ran as a leftist or a rightist, it is that there is zero evidence that clinging to Trump was going to make him successful in a state where 1) Trump himself was not successful a year ago and 2) Dems historically win the governorship in outsized percentages and 3) Virginia has been turning blue for some time now do to immigration, both internal and external and a surging DC workforce living in northern VA.
If you want to talk about dangers I think there is a real and yuuuge danger of people believing that wherever Trump goes people will automatically fall in-line. There is zero evidence of this and lots to the contrary.
Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes, balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the Republican platform. So what't the problem?
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They even put in a Transwhatever"
Sorry to say probably in a better mental state...
The VA GOP is in dire straits.
Sorry to say probably in a better mental state...
The VA GOP is in dire straits.
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Trump had a good answer, as CBD points out. The other responses on that Twitter feed show why we can't live with these lib people; there is no reasoning with them.
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Label me a troll if you wish, but I think Republicans are headed to a bloodbath in 2018 and people are whistling past the graveyard with the VA results by saying "it's a blue state anyway!!!
Maybe. I can't predict the future, and I suspect neither can you. I doubt you saw trump winning in 2016, let alone Republicans getting gains in both houses.
If there's a blood bath in 2018, I'd say the primary cause is not "Trump tweets mean things" but rather "GOPe gives voters no reason to go out and support them."
Maybe. I can't predict the future, and I suspect neither can you. I doubt you saw trump winning in 2016, let alone Republicans getting gains in both houses.
If there's a blood bath in 2018, I'd say the primary cause is not "Trump tweets mean things" but rather "GOPe gives voters no reason to go out and support them."
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Maine and Medicare... socialized medicine is here to stay, as is Social Security, Medicaid, SSI, and a plethora of other programs.
No one will touch these things... ever... Clinton knew this back in the 90's.
America likes Socialism, when there is a benefit to them as individuals, generally speaking.
In ten years, or so, single payer health care will be implemented.
No one will touch these things... ever... Clinton knew this back in the 90's.
America likes Socialism, when there is a benefit to them as individuals, generally speaking.
In ten years, or so, single payer health care will be implemented.
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"Apparently, trolling = having a different opinion. "
There's having a different opinion and then there's going out of your way to annoy and belittle people who disagree with you. You do the latter.
But I'll stop here. Don't want to be called on the carpet for harassing you.
There's having a different opinion and then there's going out of your way to annoy and belittle people who disagree with you. You do the latter.
But I'll stop here. Don't want to be called on the carpet for harassing you.
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Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes, balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the Republican platform. So what't the problem?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:26 PM (/tuJf)
He's a Bush establishment republican and nobody believed him
Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes, balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the Republican platform. So what't the problem?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:26 PM (/tuJf)
He's a Bush establishment republican and nobody believed him
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You can't run a lobbyist. Even the lobbyist Cantor lost to a newcomer.
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"Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+) "
I mean, obviously there are a lot of other issues, but in the end it's two pretty common tropes -
1. Revenge. Maybe the most common trope in classic drama/tragedy? You killed mom, prepare to die.
2. Someone realizes that a close, beloved non-blood related person is their true "family," not their blood relative that abandoned them/mistreated them.
I mean, obviously there are a lot of other issues, but in the end it's two pretty common tropes -
1. Revenge. Maybe the most common trope in classic drama/tragedy? You killed mom, prepare to die.
2. Someone realizes that a close, beloved non-blood related person is their true "family," not their blood relative that abandoned them/mistreated them.
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at November 08, 2017 12:28 PM (oZ6kz)
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I think it is again a question of "style"... Trump's style is more corporate, executive. It clashes with political. He is the first business executive ever to become a US President. Culture clash.
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the country club quisling club is NOT stupid...they are bought off by the enemy
and like members of the media, they will not cease in their treasons against us until they pay a personal price for doing so.
We on the Right sit back and expect others to preserve our freedoms for us w/o admitting that the Tree of Liberty has it's price
We have given our enemy no reason to take us seriously, so they continue to attack us. Flake and Corker will walk off into their retirements rich and happy, with no reprecussions
and like members of the media, they will not cease in their treasons against us until they pay a personal price for doing so.
We on the Right sit back and expect others to preserve our freedoms for us w/o admitting that the Tree of Liberty has it's price
We have given our enemy no reason to take us seriously, so they continue to attack us. Flake and Corker will walk off into their retirements rich and happy, with no reprecussions
Posted by: Grad School Fool at November 08, 2017 12:28 PM (swEzU)
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>>Sleazy OT - Over at Twitchy - Charlie Sheen raped Corey Haim when he was 13. *ugh, these people make me sick*
Oh, man...probably on the set of "Lucas?"
Oh, man...probably on the set of "Lucas?"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 12:28 PM (W+vEI)
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Why did NBC hire a college student to ask the POTUS a loaded question?
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Oh, and Bush was not an executive. He was a fake, politico in-waiting
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House of Delegates trouncing is what has me concerned. A big majority wiped out, and depending on a recount or two might even flip to the leftists. I'm surprised my delegate made it across the finish line in one piece.
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"Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes, balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the Republican platform. So what't the problem?"
Republicans do not behave as if that's their platform. They behave as if keeping the approval of Democrats and the press (BIRM) is their platform.
Republicans do not behave as if that's their platform. They behave as if keeping the approval of Democrats and the press (BIRM) is their platform.
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>>JackStraw I am going to say Gillespie did not run a left campaign but despite media reports (I know they are wrong or lying hard to believe) Gillespie did not run a Trumpy campaign. As you have well noted had he run a Trumpy campaign or not would not have mattered much. Trump lost Virginia too.
And from some of the reporting I'm seeing coming out, he got pretty much the same voting percentages as Trump. It's just that the non-Gillespie vote went bigger and harder toward Northam.
And from some of the reporting I'm seeing coming out, he got pretty much the same voting percentages as Trump. It's just that the non-Gillespie vote went bigger and harder toward Northam.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:30 PM (/tuJf)
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it is that there is zero evidence that clinging to Trump "
And you continue to conflate "clinging to" with "running in similar fashion".
"Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare"
Really? After the Sept (IIRC) flip flop on O'care/Med? That shot him in the arse almost as badly as the "I'll tear down Confederate statues".
How were those Republican platform?
And you continue to conflate "clinging to" with "running in similar fashion".
"Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare"
Really? After the Sept (IIRC) flip flop on O'care/Med? That shot him in the arse almost as badly as the "I'll tear down Confederate statues".
How were those Republican platform?
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40 WTF is "extreme vetting"?
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I'll take the 2500 gallons of gasoline for the win Alex.
What these idiots don't realize is without government subsidies, solar panels and electric cars are a nonstarter for most of America.
Without government subsidies, Tesla is a nonstarter for Tesla.
What these idiots don't realize is without government subsidies, solar panels and electric cars are a nonstarter for most of America.
Without government subsidies, Tesla is a nonstarter for Tesla.
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Not necessarily true. Here in SoCal our house is a net contributor to the grid. Our electricity bill is negative. /i]
I know, I was exaggerating. I like solar, a lot. I think its a neat idea to take all that gigantic radiant energy from the sun and turn it into power for your home. Its just only viable in some very few areas and with the cost of installation, maintainance, and replacement I'm not convinced there's any real net savings over time.
Its like electric cars. I like electric cars as a concept. But they cost so much and the replacement batteries after 6-10 years are such a huge financial burden, in the end you're saving money by driving even a moderately efficient gas car. And you cant put an objective cost on limited range and downtime, really.
We're just not there with alternate energy. We may never be.
I know, I was exaggerating. I like solar, a lot. I think its a neat idea to take all that gigantic radiant energy from the sun and turn it into power for your home. Its just only viable in some very few areas and with the cost of installation, maintainance, and replacement I'm not convinced there's any real net savings over time.
Its like electric cars. I like electric cars as a concept. But they cost so much and the replacement batteries after 6-10 years are such a huge financial burden, in the end you're saving money by driving even a moderately efficient gas car. And you cant put an objective cost on limited range and downtime, really.
We're just not there with alternate energy. We may never be.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:31 PM (39g3+)
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Odds on a movie that exposes the Hollywood pedo scandal like "Spotlight" ever getting made/winning awards?
Yeah, didn't think so.
Yeah, didn't think so.
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at November 08, 2017 12:32 PM (oZ6kz)
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CBD's, and others', focus on rhetoric and atmospherics and personalities here, I think, is completely misplaced (talking about GOP/Trump level issues).
Action. Results. That's what motivated people to vote for Trump. They may love/hate/be unaware of the Twitter stuff.
None of that will matter if he gets results on his core policy areas. This is where the GOP is a disaster - not uniformly, but on balance, at this point.
I can't say, but I can only hope, that the most absurd examples of GOPers joining the lynch mob of race-baiting, ignorance, and hallucinogenic demagoguery - like after C'ville, or in select cases like Flake et al with their baseless and slimy racist slanders - aren't really a factor here. They're despicable, and bizarre, but not material to election results, yesterday or in the near future. At least seems to me.
CBD's, and others', focus on rhetoric and atmospherics and personalities here, I think, is completely misplaced (talking about GOP/Trump level issues).
Action. Results. That's what motivated people to vote for Trump. They may love/hate/be unaware of the Twitter stuff.
None of that will matter if he gets results on his core policy areas. This is where the GOP is a disaster - not uniformly, but on balance, at this point.
I can't say, but I can only hope, that the most absurd examples of GOPers joining the lynch mob of race-baiting, ignorance, and hallucinogenic demagoguery - like after C'ville, or in select cases like Flake et al with their baseless and slimy racist slanders - aren't really a factor here. They're despicable, and bizarre, but not material to election results, yesterday or in the near future. At least seems to me.
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yesterday: "The voters rejected Trump!!!
the day after election day 2010: "The voters are racist!!!"
the day after election day 2010: "The voters are racist!!!"
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So how long until forced gender reassignment surgeries in Virginia?
It is going to be all tranny all the time.
It is going to be all tranny all the time.
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Irony in the Midwest.... in fields nearby, the oil wells are pumping like crazy... amidst a wind farm where not one blade is turning...
Posted by: kraken at November 08, 2017 12:33 PM (zSVEm)
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Repudiation!!11!! *hic*
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Has anyone screamed at the sky yet?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:33 PM (hLRSq)
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"I don't think it can be stopped. We get a break with Trump and some SCOTUS relief, but there's no turning back.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Not through normal paths we are accustomed to. The global oligarchs have to be broken/subdued. Massive money is moving through global banks, that have escaped US law. HSBC laundered a couple billion for drug cartels ... no jail for anyone thanks to Lynch ... BUT she was pressured from above.
The 20 (?) global banks demanded they be judged by "global bank law" (or else they'd bring contagion ... remember, a quadrillion in unregulated derivatives, Corzine style gambling crossing all lines, etc) and they got their way.
Now we wonder where Obama got pallets of cash, a coven of Saudis now under arrest ... a half trillion or more of their money influencing our markets and networks. The Queen of England found to have millions offshore ... Putin richest man in the world ... where is his "trillion"?
TARP and that whole era ... some call the biggest bank heist in history ... undoing these things will be bigger than we can imagine. IF it can be done. The path will require those good guys that were overrun in the FBI to come out of their hiding places with "guns blazing".
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Not through normal paths we are accustomed to. The global oligarchs have to be broken/subdued. Massive money is moving through global banks, that have escaped US law. HSBC laundered a couple billion for drug cartels ... no jail for anyone thanks to Lynch ... BUT she was pressured from above.
The 20 (?) global banks demanded they be judged by "global bank law" (or else they'd bring contagion ... remember, a quadrillion in unregulated derivatives, Corzine style gambling crossing all lines, etc) and they got their way.
Now we wonder where Obama got pallets of cash, a coven of Saudis now under arrest ... a half trillion or more of their money influencing our markets and networks. The Queen of England found to have millions offshore ... Putin richest man in the world ... where is his "trillion"?
TARP and that whole era ... some call the biggest bank heist in history ... undoing these things will be bigger than we can imagine. IF it can be done. The path will require those good guys that were overrun in the FBI to come out of their hiding places with "guns blazing".
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Steve and Cold Bear, the ones I know are "Virginia Gentlemen" of the old school tie variety.
Not bad guys personally, but DC-area is nothing if not an ego farm.
(I was born here, so I can say that with certainty after 60 yrs observation!)
it just...isn't who they ARE. *sips some single malt*
Not bad guys personally, but DC-area is nothing if not an ego farm.
(I was born here, so I can say that with certainty after 60 yrs observation!)
it just...isn't who they ARE. *sips some single malt*
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 12:33 PM (ru28e)
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Quite enjoyed seeing this smug schifoza getting a taste of Trump's pimp hand. Expect the Paolo would agree.
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Good grief, you'd think the sky has fallen after a Dem wins the VA governorship and a incumbent socialist re-wins the NY mayor's job.
Big deal. See what happens when the US House and Senate Goops can't figure out how to use their majorities to fulfill the promises the legislators ran on in 2012, 2014, and 2016? And Gillespie was in the thick of that decades-long sellout. Sorry, he reached his expiration date last year in early November.
Big deal. See what happens when the US House and Senate Goops can't figure out how to use their majorities to fulfill the promises the legislators ran on in 2012, 2014, and 2016? And Gillespie was in the thick of that decades-long sellout. Sorry, he reached his expiration date last year in early November.
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Because Waters is not lectured by her own side about decorum, she is rewarded. They all are.
Posted by: Lizzy
It's part of the reparations package.
Because Waters is not lectured by her own side about decorum, she is rewarded. They all are.
Posted by: Lizzy
It's part of the reparations package.
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I mean, obviously there are a lot of other issues, but in the end it's two pretty common tropes
Yeah I don't insist on it, just a feeling I get. The number of movies that don't seem to want to kick me in the ideological mangerines are few and far between. After a while you get kind of sensitive.
Even that Mindhunter show, set in the 1970s, had to have someone give a strident defense of transexuals: that doesn't mean they're wrong or bad, just because this crazed lunatic that murdered and tortured women was one! That doesn't mean transexuals have to be psychopathic serial killers!
No, you're right, it doesn't mean that. But you didn't insist on pointing that out for any other characteristic of these monsters. One was married, did you feel compelled to defend marriage? One really likes feet, was there some impassioned defense of foot fetishism? It was obnoxious and so transparently modern protection against outrage.
Yeah I don't insist on it, just a feeling I get. The number of movies that don't seem to want to kick me in the ideological mangerines are few and far between. After a while you get kind of sensitive.
Even that Mindhunter show, set in the 1970s, had to have someone give a strident defense of transexuals: that doesn't mean they're wrong or bad, just because this crazed lunatic that murdered and tortured women was one! That doesn't mean transexuals have to be psychopathic serial killers!
No, you're right, it doesn't mean that. But you didn't insist on pointing that out for any other characteristic of these monsters. One was married, did you feel compelled to defend marriage? One really likes feet, was there some impassioned defense of foot fetishism? It was obnoxious and so transparently modern protection against outrage.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:34 PM (39g3+)
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Here in Cali for all my business emails and letters, we don't do 'Dear Ms. Smith' or 'Dear Mr. Smith' anymore since we don't know how they identify gender wise...it is ridiculous.
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It's not just the inside-the-beltway RINOs that have lost their uh...stuff. There's considerable NeverTrumpism in the remnants of those who supported Ted Cruz who still haven't gotten over Indiana and that was more than a year ago.
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How long until Bloomberg can get the death camps built and do to Virginia what they did to the Holodomor?
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 08, 2017 12:35 PM (LjR2k)
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And Gillespie was in the thick of that decades-long sellout. Sorry, he reached his expiration date last year in early November."
Bbbbbut he's Trump!
(snort)
Bbbbbut he's Trump!
(snort)
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Nood.
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I'll take the 2500 gallons of gasoline for the win Alex.
What these idiots don't realize is without government subsidies, solar panels and electric cars are a nonstarter for most of America. We looked into installing solar panels for our small cabin, less than 700 sq ft. They wanted over 30 Grand.
Posted by: Traveling Man at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (R5lpX)
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Yeah, most (most) people aren't stupid. Sure, I can get $75/month for selling electricity to our local power company. But if the panels even just cost me $10K, it's going to be a LOOONG time before I break even, much less see a return.
Not to mention I can go buy a glorified minivan in the form of a warrantied $20K certified preowned Nissan Pathfinder that can tow 5000lbs and get 20mpg as it takes me, six other people, and our camper anywhere in the country we want to go.
$40K Bolt subcompact or $20K seven passenger minivan... Say, how much gas will $20,000 buy?
What these idiots don't realize is without government subsidies, solar panels and electric cars are a nonstarter for most of America. We looked into installing solar panels for our small cabin, less than 700 sq ft. They wanted over 30 Grand.
Posted by: Traveling Man at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (R5lpX)
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Yeah, most (most) people aren't stupid. Sure, I can get $75/month for selling electricity to our local power company. But if the panels even just cost me $10K, it's going to be a LOOONG time before I break even, much less see a return.
Not to mention I can go buy a glorified minivan in the form of a warrantied $20K certified preowned Nissan Pathfinder that can tow 5000lbs and get 20mpg as it takes me, six other people, and our camper anywhere in the country we want to go.
$40K Bolt subcompact or $20K seven passenger minivan... Say, how much gas will $20,000 buy?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 08, 2017 12:36 PM (GQSqS)
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yesterday: "The voters rejected Trump!!!
the day after election day 2010: "The voters are racist!!!"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at November 08, 2017 12:32 PM (ILitO)
Yeah, the MFM is really crowing today that this was a rejection of Trump and Trumpism. Meanwhile the 2016 presidential election was a bunch of uneducated, white hicks who voted to rejected the modern world and diversity
the day after election day 2010: "The voters are racist!!!"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at November 08, 2017 12:32 PM (ILitO)
Yeah, the MFM is really crowing today that this was a rejection of Trump and Trumpism. Meanwhile the 2016 presidential election was a bunch of uneducated, white hicks who voted to rejected the modern world and diversity
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>>>So how long until forced gender reassignment surgeries in Virginia?
#twoweeks
Monday - forced gender assignment
Tuesday - MS 13 potluck
Wednesday - Confederate statue melting
Thursday - Antifa beheading
Friday - Pussy hat sizing
#twoweeks
Monday - forced gender assignment
Tuesday - MS 13 potluck
Wednesday - Confederate statue melting
Thursday - Antifa beheading
Friday - Pussy hat sizing
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237 >>Didn't she have the largest number of staff of any FLOTUS ever?
Her staff was certainly the Girthiest of all the First Ladies.
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Guess i'll have to settle for 2nd
Her staff was certainly the Girthiest of all the First Ladies.
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Guess i'll have to settle for 2nd
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willowed again *hic*
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"Irony in the Midwest.... in fields nearby, the oil
wells are pumping like crazy... amidst a wind farm where not one blade
is turning...
Posted by: kraken
I can see one from my house ... records show it produces half the electricity they estimated. even at estimates I think it was only barely profitable due to subsidy. (and pretty sure it was made in China ... thx Obama)
wells are pumping like crazy... amidst a wind farm where not one blade
is turning...
Posted by: kraken
I can see one from my house ... records show it produces half the electricity they estimated. even at estimates I think it was only barely profitable due to subsidy. (and pretty sure it was made in China ... thx Obama)
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"Good grief, you'd think the sky has fallen after a Dem wins the VA governorship and a incumbent socialist re-wins the NY mayor's job."
Here in HordeLandia every political thing is taken to be the most portentous omen ever is a sure sign of an overwhelming event of some kind. Until is swept away by the *latest* hyperbole from the augurs.
It's what we do best.
Here in HordeLandia every political thing is taken to be the most portentous omen ever is a sure sign of an overwhelming event of some kind. Until is swept away by the *latest* hyperbole from the augurs.
It's what we do best.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Light Up Your Life! Drama Queen Accessories 30% off at the Outrage Outlet! at November 08, 2017 12:37 PM (hLRSq)
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Why did NBC hire a college student to ask the POTUS a loaded question?
I thought the same thing. How old was she? 23? And you could just see and hear the smug condescension in her attitude.
She thinks she knows everything. And she probably does, just axe her.
I thought the same thing. How old was she? 23? And you could just see and hear the smug condescension in her attitude.
She thinks she knows everything. And she probably does, just axe her.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2017 12:37 PM (tRaq7)
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Action. Results. That's what motivated people to vote for Trump. They may love/hate/be unaware of the Twitter stuff.
Yeah. For 90% of the public, if something doesn't directly and materially affect them? They don't give a crap. That's why homosexual marriage makes people shrug. They got past the "that's insane!" reaction and now just don't care because they cannot perceive any personal impact.
But tranny bathroom stuff makes them go "my kids! My wife! Are you freaking kidding me???"
Trump's tweets are mildly amusing to people, and maybe a little bit embarassing that the leader of the free world is on Twitter like a 14 year old, but meh, no harm no foul. And its often kinda funny, so that's welcome.
Yeah. For 90% of the public, if something doesn't directly and materially affect them? They don't give a crap. That's why homosexual marriage makes people shrug. They got past the "that's insane!" reaction and now just don't care because they cannot perceive any personal impact.
But tranny bathroom stuff makes them go "my kids! My wife! Are you freaking kidding me???"
Trump's tweets are mildly amusing to people, and maybe a little bit embarassing that the leader of the free world is on Twitter like a 14 year old, but meh, no harm no foul. And its often kinda funny, so that's welcome.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:38 PM (39g3+)
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>>It's part of the reparations package.
Naw, it goes for all Dems. Hillary can say nasty stuff and then turns around an pretended to be wounded when Trump hits back. The whole "When they go low, we go high" thing was such a joke because it is the Democrats who will say the most vile stuff about opponents and get away with it, and sometimes lauded for "Speaking truth to power!"
Naw, it goes for all Dems. Hillary can say nasty stuff and then turns around an pretended to be wounded when Trump hits back. The whole "When they go low, we go high" thing was such a joke because it is the Democrats who will say the most vile stuff about opponents and get away with it, and sometimes lauded for "Speaking truth to power!"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 08, 2017 12:38 PM (W+vEI)
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There's always a lively discussion about what President would win in hand-to-hand combat. Anybody know any First Ladies who would give Michelle any trouble?
Posted by: irright at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (pMGkg)
Dolley Madison. She was one tough chick. And lovely to boot.
There's always a lively discussion about what President would win in hand-to-hand combat. Anybody know any First Ladies who would give Michelle any trouble?
Posted by: irright at November 08, 2017 12:24 PM (pMGkg)
Dolley Madison. She was one tough chick. And lovely to boot.
Posted by: moki at November 08, 2017 12:38 PM (V+V48)
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1) Where is Trump's response to the idiotic gun control question? Not in the post?
2) Is there a single consumer-level "alternative" energy scheme that is even close to financially rational/sustainable, or almost any commercial-level one? Not that I'm aware of.
Artificial "market" in its entirety. Without subsidies, it doesn't exist, except in a small niche sort of way.
One of the many massive impoverishing wastes/distortions saddling the economy and society.
1) Where is Trump's response to the idiotic gun control question? Not in the post?
2) Is there a single consumer-level "alternative" energy scheme that is even close to financially rational/sustainable, or almost any commercial-level one? Not that I'm aware of.
Artificial "market" in its entirety. Without subsidies, it doesn't exist, except in a small niche sort of way.
One of the many massive impoverishing wastes/distortions saddling the economy and society.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2017 12:38 PM (QDnY+)
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CBD: "But infighting and political expediency and nasty, vitriolic sniping at the president took precedence."
So you're inferring McCain might be involved?
Magic 8-Ball says, "Absofvckin'lutely."
So you're inferring McCain might be involved?
Magic 8-Ball says, "Absofvckin'lutely."
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 08, 2017 12:38 PM (H8S+R)
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There's always a lively discussion about what President would win in hand-to-hand combat. Anybody know any First Ladies who would give Michelle any trouble?
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so no batleth?
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so no batleth?
Posted by: Rufus King at November 08, 2017 12:39 PM (vChNs)
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Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
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About your last point, I wouldn't disagree with you, since I'm unfamiliar with the situation in those districts. But if what you say is true, it's disappointing that that is how the "sniping" is perceived. Instead of R's in the district thinking "I'm sick and tired of all this bickering, and nothing's getting done. I'll just sit out the election", they should be thinking "The people stonewalling Trump, like McCain, Collins, Ryan and McConnell ARE the reason why nothing has gotten done in living memory. I've got to get out there and vote".
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 11:53 AM (lKmt3)
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About your last point, I wouldn't disagree with you, since I'm unfamiliar with the situation in those districts. But if what you say is true, it's disappointing that that is how the "sniping" is perceived. Instead of R's in the district thinking "I'm sick and tired of all this bickering, and nothing's getting done. I'll just sit out the election", they should be thinking "The people stonewalling Trump, like McCain, Collins, Ryan and McConnell ARE the reason why nothing has gotten done in living memory. I've got to get out there and vote".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 08, 2017 12:39 PM (/qEW2)
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Crack skulls in private.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (CFx1m)
But then his voters don't see he's fighting. And whether right or wrong (and I think he's mostly right), he thinks that's what propelled him to the Presidency and he wants to keep doing it. I wish he'd be more measured on twitter but I DO NOT want him to cut back on fighting back - he rarely starts it but he won't back down. That's something the country wants.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 08, 2017 12:18 PM (CFx1m)
But then his voters don't see he's fighting. And whether right or wrong (and I think he's mostly right), he thinks that's what propelled him to the Presidency and he wants to keep doing it. I wish he'd be more measured on twitter but I DO NOT want him to cut back on fighting back - he rarely starts it but he won't back down. That's something the country wants.
Posted by: Baboo the Oceleot at November 08, 2017 12:40 PM (EIZU+)
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I'm torn.
On the one hand you can't ignore what happened in VA's state house. It's one thing to lose the governor race in a blue state, but to get massacred at the state house level is another. As others noted, even in deep red areas, Republicans lost seats.
Then again a year is an eternity in politics, and it was just one state. As everyone loves to say the cliche, all politics is local.
Overall I think it was a good night for Dems, but not the orgasmic night the MSM would have you believe.
On the one hand you can't ignore what happened in VA's state house. It's one thing to lose the governor race in a blue state, but to get massacred at the state house level is another. As others noted, even in deep red areas, Republicans lost seats.
Then again a year is an eternity in politics, and it was just one state. As everyone loves to say the cliche, all politics is local.
Overall I think it was a good night for Dems, but not the orgasmic night the MSM would have you believe.
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 08, 2017 12:40 PM (BSLTV)
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306 So how long until forced gender reassignment surgeries in Virginia?
It is going to be all tranny all the time.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 08, 2017 12:32 PM (JYYAi)
Strangely, a tranny that I used to know actually switched back after only about a year.
It is going to be all tranny all the time.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 08, 2017 12:32 PM (JYYAi)
Strangely, a tranny that I used to know actually switched back after only about a year.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 08, 2017 12:40 PM (9TK8E)
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"if the panels even just cost me $10K, it's going to be a LOOONG time before I break even, much less see a return.
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and make sure to keep them clean, and what is their life expectancy? And what is the cost to maintain the alternate electric plant when some of their profits are stolen to to solar power mandates? When the sun doesn't shine, they have to be maintained to provide the full load. They can't layoff employees on sunny days.
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and make sure to keep them clean, and what is their life expectancy? And what is the cost to maintain the alternate electric plant when some of their profits are stolen to to solar power mandates? When the sun doesn't shine, they have to be maintained to provide the full load. They can't layoff employees on sunny days.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 08, 2017 12:41 PM (/aIFg)
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Republicans got slaughtered in some very red districts.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
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I agree the Congress needs to get in line, especially the Senate (which only a naif would argue is Republican). Certainly, I also agree Trump and a bunch of yesterdays news characters (like Corker) get into unproductive sniping matches. But I'd argue its understandable the President would lose his thin patience, given the absolute absence of party disciple and zero effective leadership from McConnell.
Only a tortured partisan analysis of elections last night calls the results a repudiation of what Trump is himself seeking to accomplish. Trump was not on the ballot and Gillespie repudiated much of Trumps platform anyway.
The lesson to be drawn (if its possible for the GOPe to learn any lessons) is that something different from the Bush era politics is happening, that change is underway and change is rough and hard. But the voters demand it be done, even Democrat Bernie-bot voters want a freer more opensystem.
Trump and the GOP better pass some real legislation and the sniping on both sides needs to stop.
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I agree the Congress needs to get in line, especially the Senate (which only a naif would argue is Republican). Certainly, I also agree Trump and a bunch of yesterdays news characters (like Corker) get into unproductive sniping matches. But I'd argue its understandable the President would lose his thin patience, given the absolute absence of party disciple and zero effective leadership from McConnell.
Only a tortured partisan analysis of elections last night calls the results a repudiation of what Trump is himself seeking to accomplish. Trump was not on the ballot and Gillespie repudiated much of Trumps platform anyway.
The lesson to be drawn (if its possible for the GOPe to learn any lessons) is that something different from the Bush era politics is happening, that change is underway and change is rough and hard. But the voters demand it be done, even Democrat Bernie-bot voters want a freer more opensystem.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 08, 2017 12:44 PM (ylUqT)
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GOPe: the Neo-Whig Party.
GOPe: the Neo-Whig Party.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2017 12:45 PM (BWL+E)
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I'll say it.
Gillespie was the day's "Lose Gracefully" candidate. Hence no turn out hence the down state shellacking.
If your gonna run the lose gracefully candidate, whaddya expect to happen?
Surprise victory, through double stealth candidates?
Call me when one of the squishes win.
Gillespie was the day's "Lose Gracefully" candidate. Hence no turn out hence the down state shellacking.
If your gonna run the lose gracefully candidate, whaddya expect to happen?
Surprise victory, through double stealth candidates?
Call me when one of the squishes win.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 08, 2017 12:50 PM (ymnmz)
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Supposedly you can get around 30 years out of a solar panel, assuming no extreme weather (heavy winds, ice storms, golf ball-sized hail) with minimal cleaning like hosing off leaves. So they have a decent lifespan. Still, at their cost, you're probably never going to pay it off even at 30 years.
Electric cars are an even worse investment. They cost tens of thousands more than a gas car, plus the cost of electricity. Plus the battery replacement. Its just never, ever, ever going to pay for its self. I can't help but laugh in the face of people who think they are saving money.
A cheap electric car as a second town car for going to work and back: sure. Bring the cost down under $15 grand and we're talking. But as is, its like pouring money into the Weber and lighting it up.
Electric cars are an even worse investment. They cost tens of thousands more than a gas car, plus the cost of electricity. Plus the battery replacement. Its just never, ever, ever going to pay for its self. I can't help but laugh in the face of people who think they are saving money.
A cheap electric car as a second town car for going to work and back: sure. Bring the cost down under $15 grand and we're talking. But as is, its like pouring money into the Weber and lighting it up.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)
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Here in Bucks County, PA, there are two county offices that make sense from a partisan POV (District Attorney and Sheriff), and three less so (Recorder of Deeds, Controller, and Prothonotary). GOP held all five going in, and incumbents were running again in all but Prothonotary.
Dems took four of the five, defeating three incumbents, and taking the Prothonotary tossup. Only GOP to hold on was DA.
Party holding Presidency typically loses seats in first off-year Congressional election, but these results tell me 2018 will be a catastrophe if GOP doesn't get their act together.
Dems took four of the five, defeating three incumbents, and taking the Prothonotary tossup. Only GOP to hold on was DA.
Party holding Presidency typically loses seats in first off-year Congressional election, but these results tell me 2018 will be a catastrophe if GOP doesn't get their act together.
Posted by: rgvlpa at November 08, 2017 12:51 PM (kBXxa)
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Mitch McConnell needs to announce office reassignment, committee reassignment and travel audits, to occur right after the vote on the House tax reform bill. That would help.
Send Lisa Murkowski to an office in Rockville, and she can experience traffic on the Rockville Pike while trying to make votes. Susan Collins can be assigned to chair the Committee for Beach Replacement or something equally innocuous. John McVain can submit his office accounts going back ten years or so for a proctology exam.
The Senate isn't used to annoyances. Annoy them.
Send Lisa Murkowski to an office in Rockville, and she can experience traffic on the Rockville Pike while trying to make votes. Susan Collins can be assigned to chair the Committee for Beach Replacement or something equally innocuous. John McVain can submit his office accounts going back ten years or so for a proctology exam.
The Senate isn't used to annoyances. Annoy them.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 08, 2017 12:52 PM (ylUqT)
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>>Really? After the Sept (IIRC) flip flop on O'care/Med? That shot him in the arse almost as badly as the "I'll tear down Confederate statues".
How were those Republican platform?
So you're position that because Republicans in Congress, really McCain, shot down the first attempt at repeal Gillespie should have what, changed his position? How was that going to help in an area that increasingly likes Obamacare?
Gillespie went against Northam on the statue issues and exit polling is showing the people were with him. It also shows that the big Northam vote was in federal employees and non-white voters.
If you think running a "Trump style campaign" whatever that means would have changed this then ok. I don't.
http://tinyurl.com/ycgnqrla
How were those Republican platform?
So you're position that because Republicans in Congress, really McCain, shot down the first attempt at repeal Gillespie should have what, changed his position? How was that going to help in an area that increasingly likes Obamacare?
Gillespie went against Northam on the statue issues and exit polling is showing the people were with him. It also shows that the big Northam vote was in federal employees and non-white voters.
If you think running a "Trump style campaign" whatever that means would have changed this then ok. I don't.
http://tinyurl.com/ycgnqrla
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:52 PM (/tuJf)
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Overall I think it was a good night for Dems, but not the orgasmic night the MSM would have you believe.
Their reaction to these two predictable wins just shows how badly things have been going for Democrats the last year. FINALLY A WIN!!!!!1!!1!!
Their reaction to these two predictable wins just shows how badly things have been going for Democrats the last year. FINALLY A WIN!!!!!1!!1!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:52 PM (39g3+)
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Democrats stick together because that is the foundation of their party: a mass of special interests, each vowing to help the other in return for support in return.
Republicans, on the other hand, are ideological: individual liberty and stuff like that . . . So, not too much of a surprise when they can't agree on the details - there's no back-scratching.
And then the GOP-e turns into a special interest, and ponies up to the Dem's help-yourself bar.
Republicans, on the other hand, are ideological: individual liberty and stuff like that . . . So, not too much of a surprise when they can't agree on the details - there's no back-scratching.
And then the GOP-e turns into a special interest, and ponies up to the Dem's help-yourself bar.
Posted by: one-eyed cat peepin' in the seafood store at November 08, 2017 12:52 PM (/sTHK)
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I'm torn.
On the one hand you can't ignore what happened in VA's state house. It's one thing to lose the governor race in a blue state, but to get massacred at the state house level is another. As others noted, even in deep red areas, Republicans lost seats.
Then again a year is an eternity in politics, and it was just one state. As everyone loves to say the cliche, all politics is local.
Overall I think it was a good night for Dems, but not the orgasmic night the MSM would have you believe.
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 08, 2017 12:40 PM (BSLTV)
Again I'll say: VA wasn't a blue state turning purple. It's a purple state about to turn solidly blue, like NY and CA.
The northern 'burbs will turn out en masse against anyone even talking about threatening their livelihood, as Trump has.
A lot of the blame belongs to Gillespie, being a shitty candidate, but we're also seeing part of the realignment of America here. Unfortunately, it's not gonna all go our way.
On the one hand you can't ignore what happened in VA's state house. It's one thing to lose the governor race in a blue state, but to get massacred at the state house level is another. As others noted, even in deep red areas, Republicans lost seats.
Then again a year is an eternity in politics, and it was just one state. As everyone loves to say the cliche, all politics is local.
Overall I think it was a good night for Dems, but not the orgasmic night the MSM would have you believe.
Posted by: #neverskankles at November 08, 2017 12:40 PM (BSLTV)
Again I'll say: VA wasn't a blue state turning purple. It's a purple state about to turn solidly blue, like NY and CA.
The northern 'burbs will turn out en masse against anyone even talking about threatening their livelihood, as Trump has.
A lot of the blame belongs to Gillespie, being a shitty candidate, but we're also seeing part of the realignment of America here. Unfortunately, it's not gonna all go our way.
Posted by: Country Boy at November 08, 2017 12:54 PM (Jcg9Q)
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#WaitingforSonobi
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 08, 2017 12:57 PM (QM5S2)
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my litmus test is: Does he sound more retarded than Delaware's own Joe Biden? And are the two being treated the same way?
If the answer to either is no, then fuck it.
If the answer to either is no, then fuck it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 08, 2017 01:00 PM (326rv)
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Yeah under ideal conditions, you can generate enough
energy to run part of your home on solar. The lights in a few rooms,
for instance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
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They should ban multi-story homes to increase the surface area of the roofs.
energy to run part of your home on solar. The lights in a few rooms,
for instance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 08, 2017 12:13 PM (39g3+)
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They should ban multi-story homes to increase the surface area of the roofs.
Posted by: RioBravo at November 08, 2017 01:04 PM (5NMZN)
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Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate. Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state that Trump lost is not surprising.
It's the shelacking across the state even in the red areas that has me concerned.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (lKmt3)
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Yeah, that's the one thing no one on either side has pointed out. Northam was a perfect candidate for this year: native Virginian (not NOVA either,) VMI grad, veteran, pediatrician. His public demeanor is mild. He faced an openly hardleft commie in the primary, which made him seem moderate. And at least 80% of his ads showed him in a white coat cuddling babies.
This was the perfect face for the party in that he inspired no visceral fear. The GOPe-red districts that the Dems wisely targeted, the ones that rejected Trump in 2016, would find him agreeable enough. They certainly weren't going to rush out in droves to defeat him. And in the meantime the Dems whipped up fear and loathing to get their own voters out.
If Tom Perriello had won the nomination, the GOP might have successfully whipped up the vote against him--- and more importantly, against his party.
(As far as I can see, no district that went for Trump went for Northam. So the hard-red held. It was the GOPe-red that switched.)
Northram was actually a pretty decent candidate. Former vet and neurosurgeon. So Northram winning a blueish purple state that Trump lost is not surprising.
It's the shelacking across the state even in the red areas that has me concerned.
Posted by: Maritime at November 08, 2017 12:15 PM (lKmt3)
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Yeah, that's the one thing no one on either side has pointed out. Northam was a perfect candidate for this year: native Virginian (not NOVA either,) VMI grad, veteran, pediatrician. His public demeanor is mild. He faced an openly hardleft commie in the primary, which made him seem moderate. And at least 80% of his ads showed him in a white coat cuddling babies.
This was the perfect face for the party in that he inspired no visceral fear. The GOPe-red districts that the Dems wisely targeted, the ones that rejected Trump in 2016, would find him agreeable enough. They certainly weren't going to rush out in droves to defeat him. And in the meantime the Dems whipped up fear and loathing to get their own voters out.
If Tom Perriello had won the nomination, the GOP might have successfully whipped up the vote against him--- and more importantly, against his party.
(As far as I can see, no district that went for Trump went for Northam. So the hard-red held. It was the GOPe-red that switched.)
Posted by: Margarita,voyaging to the edge of crisp at November 08, 2017 01:11 PM (0jtPF)
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Gillespie ran on repealing Obamacare, cutting taxes,
balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the
Republican platform. So what't the problem?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:26 PM (/tuJf)
That is NOT what Gillespie ran on. Nowhere on his healthcare page does it mention repeal of Obamacare. And Gillespie NEVER mentioned enforcing immigration laws except for his reluctant attack on Northam's sanctuary cities vote. Gillespie has been and always will be an open borders squish... nobody would have believed him had he bothered to lie about that.
balancing the budget, enforcing immigration laws and the rest of the
Republican platform. So what't the problem?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:26 PM (/tuJf)
That is NOT what Gillespie ran on. Nowhere on his healthcare page does it mention repeal of Obamacare. And Gillespie NEVER mentioned enforcing immigration laws except for his reluctant attack on Northam's sanctuary cities vote. Gillespie has been and always will be an open borders squish... nobody would have believed him had he bothered to lie about that.
Posted by: redbanzai at November 08, 2017 01:13 PM (f5uaD)
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Margarita, in a nutshell.
(noVA res here too, just lost my delegate to a move-in woman with lots of non-VA cash)
(noVA res here too, just lost my delegate to a move-in woman with lots of non-VA cash)
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 01:14 PM (ru28e)
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In related news, I'm getting my 2020 exploratory committee together....
Posted by: SMOD at November 08, 2017 01:16 PM (rkrOv)
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Deep blue Vermont is often considered the safest state in the nation and we have basically no gun restrictions whatsoever. No permit required, No concealed carry permit required. Just the normal background check to make sure your not a convicted felon.
Posted by: deepred at November 08, 2017 01:17 PM (zs6g5)
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Gillespie went against Northam on the statue issues
and exit polling is showing the people were with him. It also shows that
the big Northam vote was in federal employees and non-white voters.
If you think running a "Trump style campaign" whatever that means would have changed this then ok. I don't.
http://tinyurl.com/ycgnqrla
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:52 PM (/tuJf)
Gillespie did not go against Northam on the statue issue in any meaningful way. Additionally, his statement on the issue was insulting in the extreme to Virginians who value their heritage.
and exit polling is showing the people were with him. It also shows that
the big Northam vote was in federal employees and non-white voters.
If you think running a "Trump style campaign" whatever that means would have changed this then ok. I don't.
http://tinyurl.com/ycgnqrla
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2017 12:52 PM (/tuJf)
Gillespie did not go against Northam on the statue issue in any meaningful way. Additionally, his statement on the issue was insulting in the extreme to Virginians who value their heritage.
Posted by: redbanzai at November 08, 2017 01:19 PM (f5uaD)
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That tweet sums up the stupidity of the left.
You have a right to speak. You don't have a right to be heard. And you certainly don't have a right to make me listen to your shit.
Got it, leftists?
Good.
You have a right to speak. You don't have a right to be heard. And you certainly don't have a right to make me listen to your shit.
Got it, leftists?
Good.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2017 01:23 PM (jWe5r)
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It's funny when people talk about Trump like some talk about fiances.
"I going to marry him/her so I can turn her/him into the man/woman I know s/he can be!"
Good luck with that one.
"I going to marry him/her so I can turn her/him into the man/woman I know s/he can be!"
Good luck with that one.
Posted by: Meremortal at November 08, 2017 01:24 PM (3myMJ)
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Our VA contingent here, and the exit polling, seem to agree and confirm the particular vs. the national significance of this.
And just to pick one lightning rod issue that did arise in the campaign - illegal migration - what were the major events? Dem was defensive on his sanctuary cities record, not defiant, and outrageous racist demagogic ad was a controversy for his campaign, moving him to lie about his involvement, and ad to be pulled
For some reason very few politically aware people seem to have actually paid attention to Obama's 2008 campaign - to the extent there really was one - and his "positions". His positions and tone were close to a liberal Republican, on many big issues. Ridiculous, of course, but true. As some VA people have pointed out, neither Northam's persona nor positions were very radical. Trying to find national anti-Trump tea leaves in this cup seems to be a pretty ridiculous exercise.
And just to pick one lightning rod issue that did arise in the campaign - illegal migration - what were the major events? Dem was defensive on his sanctuary cities record, not defiant, and outrageous racist demagogic ad was a controversy for his campaign, moving him to lie about his involvement, and ad to be pulled
For some reason very few politically aware people seem to have actually paid attention to Obama's 2008 campaign - to the extent there really was one - and his "positions". His positions and tone were close to a liberal Republican, on many big issues. Ridiculous, of course, but true. As some VA people have pointed out, neither Northam's persona nor positions were very radical. Trying to find national anti-Trump tea leaves in this cup seems to be a pretty ridiculous exercise.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2017 01:25 PM (QDnY+)
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Just my $0.02, but a republican "tax plan" doesn't even move the needle for me. It's all just tinkering at the margins, and at the end of the day neither party has the balls to do what needs to be done which is - wait for it - start taxing the bottom 3 quintiles of income earners who have basically had a free ride (the bottom 5th actually getting PAID from filing) for two decades. The only tax reform I care about is one that has EVERYBODY paying, and nobody working more than 1 day a week to pay for the federal government EXCEPT the ultra rich who are all social progressives anyway so screw 'em.
What would motivate voters isnt a tax plan, but rather a GOP that lays out a clear set of reforms (as Trump has) and then actually makes a REAL effort to deliver on them, and that means putting the likes of Sue Collins' & Lindsey Graham, and Cornyn and McCain to the absolute screws if necessary. The GOP has serially betrayed its voters for four elections cycles in a row now, and they've only gotten bolder in doing so. The Dems are going to win back - probably - both houses of Congress in 2018, but in doing so they will profoundly misunderstand why.
What would motivate voters isnt a tax plan, but rather a GOP that lays out a clear set of reforms (as Trump has) and then actually makes a REAL effort to deliver on them, and that means putting the likes of Sue Collins' & Lindsey Graham, and Cornyn and McCain to the absolute screws if necessary. The GOP has serially betrayed its voters for four elections cycles in a row now, and they've only gotten bolder in doing so. The Dems are going to win back - probably - both houses of Congress in 2018, but in doing so they will profoundly misunderstand why.
Posted by: Sam In VA at November 08, 2017 01:32 PM (Nqq7o)
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So I'm a little dense but the take away form the McDonalds tweet is that PDT wants a McDonalds franchise IN the white house? huh. Btw, Whats wrong with White Castle in the WH? Hater.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2017 01:34 PM (VezBU)
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Sam in VA is right about the substance of the issue. The tax system is a disaster, and could/should be replaced by a de minimis, simplified one that reintroduces a large portion of the lower 60% of the income distribution to federal income taxes. The utter political infeasibility of this obviously needed reform is the largest shining monument to America's political failure (elites and electorate) to achieve its potential.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 08, 2017 01:38 PM (QDnY+)
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I'm a long term outlook guy. It's what I do. So context for me is lifespan of my children and grandchildren and that of my fellow Americans.
America is projected to have a 300% population increase over just the next 82'ish years to 1 Beeeleeyun people (1 Billion).
I run an environmental engineering/geology company in CA and can promise you that there is no f'n way we can build the necessary infrastructure (water, sewage, power, food growth/distribution, transportation, jobs, etc. to the 10th power) to accommodate 1 billion people.
Oh, and the hyper-population growth is 97% caused by the de facto immigration policies of the Democrat-Republican Establishment.
Population math is frightening stuff. I don't think they teach much about it anymore in biology or political-science because it's too scary.
Bottom line: Our democratic-republic cannot possibly survive such rapid population growth that will be marked by an overwhelming number of unassimilated multicultural crazies demanding Big.Gov give them everything they want and self-hating leftist actual-Americans bending over for them.
Doom. Real doom.
America is projected to have a 300% population increase over just the next 82'ish years to 1 Beeeleeyun people (1 Billion).
I run an environmental engineering/geology company in CA and can promise you that there is no f'n way we can build the necessary infrastructure (water, sewage, power, food growth/distribution, transportation, jobs, etc. to the 10th power) to accommodate 1 billion people.
Oh, and the hyper-population growth is 97% caused by the de facto immigration policies of the Democrat-Republican Establishment.
Population math is frightening stuff. I don't think they teach much about it anymore in biology or political-science because it's too scary.
Bottom line: Our democratic-republic cannot possibly survive such rapid population growth that will be marked by an overwhelming number of unassimilated multicultural crazies demanding Big.Gov give them everything they want and self-hating leftist actual-Americans bending over for them.
Doom. Real doom.
Posted by: DrDean at November 08, 2017 02:04 PM (KiUxL)
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That Girl Reporter had the blank, wide-eyed stare of the Jonestown fanatic, didn't she?
Posted by: Beverly at November 08, 2017 05:01 PM (QT1Ej)
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"We have a ton of never-trump/"this is not who we are" elite GOPers, and I've been hankering to start asking them "who is we?"
And I'm starting to want to smack some of them.
I think we have some poisonous identity politics going on that has ZERO to do with race, sex, gender, etc, and a great deal to do with display/preening of a different kind.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)"
This is what burns my biscuits about this. Sure, there are a handful of NeverTrumpers who actually are principled and stayed home or wrote in their dream candidate. These are typically the guys who have been trying to push the GOPe to stop being Diet Democrats, and these are the only ones I am ever going to take seriously. But the rest of you clowns...
Look. You snowflakes have been hand-wringing and moaning for close to 10 years how "this isn't the hill to die on" whenever something actually important came up. You are the losers who have been telling the base that their principles have to be sacrificed on the altar of "winning". You were the idiots who shoved shit sandwiches down everyone's throats and told us that we *must* vote for your shit sandwich because otherwise "THE DEMOCRATS WILL WIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!1!1!"
And now suddenly YOU are the ones bleating about "muh principles"? Suddenly, YOU are the ones too good to eat a shit sandwich? Now, the very Democrats you used to scare the base with aren't *really* so bad, or you know, you don't want your turn at making the same sacrifices you insisted everyone else make for The Party?
No, just...no. Fuck you and everyone near you. That ship has sailed without you. You had your chance to act on your principles for a DECADE and you blew it. TIME AND TIME AGAIN. It's too late to virtue signal how "principled" you are now, how you're the "real conservative" even though nothing about your "principles" has anything to do with conservatism at all. Protip kids: don't dish it out if you can't take it. Don't insist actual conservatives vote for your squish if you can't likewise hold your nose when there's a candidate who offends your delicate sensibilities. Either deal with it like a grown-up when it's your turn, or sit down and have yourself a big bowl of Shut The Fuck Up.
And I'm starting to want to smack some of them.
I think we have some poisonous identity politics going on that has ZERO to do with race, sex, gender, etc, and a great deal to do with display/preening of a different kind.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 08, 2017 11:58 AM (ru28e)"
This is what burns my biscuits about this. Sure, there are a handful of NeverTrumpers who actually are principled and stayed home or wrote in their dream candidate. These are typically the guys who have been trying to push the GOPe to stop being Diet Democrats, and these are the only ones I am ever going to take seriously. But the rest of you clowns...
Look. You snowflakes have been hand-wringing and moaning for close to 10 years how "this isn't the hill to die on" whenever something actually important came up. You are the losers who have been telling the base that their principles have to be sacrificed on the altar of "winning". You were the idiots who shoved shit sandwiches down everyone's throats and told us that we *must* vote for your shit sandwich because otherwise "THE DEMOCRATS WILL WIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!1!1!"
And now suddenly YOU are the ones bleating about "muh principles"? Suddenly, YOU are the ones too good to eat a shit sandwich? Now, the very Democrats you used to scare the base with aren't *really* so bad, or you know, you don't want your turn at making the same sacrifices you insisted everyone else make for The Party?
No, just...no. Fuck you and everyone near you. That ship has sailed without you. You had your chance to act on your principles for a DECADE and you blew it. TIME AND TIME AGAIN. It's too late to virtue signal how "principled" you are now, how you're the "real conservative" even though nothing about your "principles" has anything to do with conservatism at all. Protip kids: don't dish it out if you can't take it. Don't insist actual conservatives vote for your squish if you can't likewise hold your nose when there's a candidate who offends your delicate sensibilities. Either deal with it like a grown-up when it's your turn, or sit down and have yourself a big bowl of Shut The Fuck Up.
Posted by: Saber Alter at November 08, 2017 05:19 PM (YZ7Go)
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You always Trumpers are living in you own world. Don't tell me the GOP lost the Virginia House of Delegates because of Gillepsie. They lost it because of Trump. The anger of the Democrats was so strong they turned out and voted straight party for every office, when some of them in the past might have voted for a Republican representative. They wanted to send a message.
They acted like Republicans did to Obama in 2010 and 2014.
They acted like Republicans did to Obama in 2010 and 2014.
Posted by: Arkansas Yankee at November 08, 2017 05:25 PM (m/1QV)
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I'm not even a Trump fan, I only did the usual thing the squishes insist on and help my nose because I'm NeverHillary. I just call out idiocy when I see it, and most NeverTrumpers don't actually have any principles other than "I want to sit at the cool kids' table! Please don't call me a racist! *wibblewibble*" For every Jim Treacher (an actual principled NeverTrumper) who has always been fighting to push back against GOPe being the "kinder gentler Democrat Party" and dislikes Trump as an urban liberal (and he is) there's a dozen codpiece-sniffers like Kristol who just want their Democrat sempais to notice them. I listen and consider what Treacher says, primarily because he was never the one to shove a shit sandwich down my throat as long as it was *his* shit sadwich. (In fact, he was usually among the first to complain about shit sandwiches)
The lesson, because you apparently missed it the first time: don't deal out shit sandwiches if you think you're above eating one yourself. If you can't learn that and you want to keep pretending your principles are the only ones that matter, you are cordially invited to DIAF.
The lesson, because you apparently missed it the first time: don't deal out shit sandwiches if you think you're above eating one yourself. If you can't learn that and you want to keep pretending your principles are the only ones that matter, you are cordially invited to DIAF.
Posted by: Saber Alter at November 08, 2017 05:38 PM (YZ7Go)
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$6k for a Rolex?
*casts eyes left and right*
Fellah, you done got robbed. I can beat that price all day long!
*adds paint to the 'P' on a new Polex chronograph*
*casts eyes left and right*
Fellah, you done got robbed. I can beat that price all day long!
*adds paint to the 'P' on a new Polex chronograph*
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 09, 2017 11:33 AM (fA1SL)
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