Halloween Treats [KT]

This Baby Animal is ready for Halloween.
Are you?

Greetings! Hope the Saturday Before Halloween is going well for you. I thought that today it might be a good idea to prepare something besides candy to pass out to Halloween visitors. Especially the teenagers. Maybe some adults and older children, too. Especially the ones who are afraid of Tiki torches.

I think the video below is a great one to pass out freely on Halloween, or more selectively on other days when the subject of the Alt-Right comes up. Like maybe when someone associates YOU with the Alt-Right.

This video is pretty much hysteria-free. Michael Knowles "took a deep dive into Alt-Right culture". He learned some simple, basic things that middle school students should know. And maybe some of their parents. Of course, if you are a regular reader of AoSHQ you already knew most of this stuff.

But it's nice to see the basics laid out so plainly for those who have been led to think of the Alt-Right as "the Right": The Alt-Right is an alternative to the Right. Sort of like the Left is an alternative to the Right. For example, both the Alt-Right and the Left are pretty much obsessed with race, while the American Right is not.

While we're on the subject of obsession with race, maybe some kids are confused because it is okay with many on the Left that Disney appropriated Polynesian culture in order to make a movie about Moana, but it is not okay for little white girls to dress up like this fictional princess. Perhaps some kids might start to think that those scolding leftists like big corporations better than children. Perhaps they would be right.

Children who are old enough to understand "colonization" might be interested to know that giant colonizers of the internet, namely Google and YouTube, are restricting access by young people to many videos like the one above. Because Google and YouTube are hostile to foreign cultures like American Conservatism. PragerU is suing Google and YouTube in California.

PragerU's lawsuit argues that "Google/YouTube use their restricted mode filtering not to protect younger or sensitive viewers from 'inappropriate' video content, but as a political gag mechanism to silence PragerU". The suit alleges Google/YouTube did this "because PragerU is a conservative nonprofit organization that is associated with and espouses the views of leading conservative speakers."
"This is speech discrimination plain and simple: censorship based entirely on the perceived identity and political viewpoint of the speaker not on the content of the speech," the lawsuit alleged.
The suit demonstrates this by presenting a chart presenting its restricted videos and other videos on similar topics that were not restricted.

Google and YouTube have not clarified exactly why they find the restricted videos unsuitable for the young. They basically just assert their privilege in a seemingly arbitrary fashion.

Watch that video while you can, kids.

Can you think of some other appropriate information to pass out to kids who might appreciate a little surprise on Halloween?

Hope you have a great weekend. And maybe some fun on Halloween.

Programming Notes: Yes, this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread. I am currently in an internet-free dimension, dependent for a few hours on the kindness of others (namely CBD) to post this and the coming Gardening Thread. Catch ya later.

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1 St.

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:01 AM (R5lpX)

2 booga booga!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2017 11:01 AM (V2Yro)

3 I'll go get the others

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:01 AM (R5lpX)

4 We never get Trick-or-treaters.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:03 AM (8jetd)

5 Scary kitten is adorable.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 11:05 AM (rmVvL)

6 We never get Trick-or-treaters.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:03 AM (8jetd)

We don't either. But that might because of the dark, long forboding driveway to our house

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:05 AM (R5lpX)

7 Awwwwww, Halloween Kitty! love

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2017 11:05 AM (14URa)

8 Vampire Kitteh!!!

This is obviously an early bonus Pet Thread!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 28, 2017 11:05 AM (hMwEB)

9 I liked this

"Most tribal officials supported creation of the Bears Ears monument, though tribal members living on the monument's borders had reservations."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:06 AM (8jetd)

10 We don't either. But that might because of the dark, long forboding driveway to our house

The heads on pikes are also dissuading.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:07 AM (8jetd)

11 We have 400 pieces of candy ina bowl waiting for the neighborhood ghouls and goblins. No way the sweet tarts will make it out alive. The m and ms may not survive either.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 28, 2017 11:07 AM (9vbJt)

12 In all the years I lived in this house might be able to count all the non relative treaters on your fingers. I like to see them and pull out my gargoyles for it.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:08 AM (aC6Sd)

13 ... in any case, however the mueller indictments fall, that's all the news channels will be speculating about for the next two days.

that means i don't have to watch the news this weekend! yeah!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (AxFdW)

14 ... oops, wrong thread. sorry.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (AxFdW)

15 WeaselDog is not amused by people ringing our doorbell.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (Sfs6o)

16 Ok I know you guys don't do this on purpose because compassion and all but its seems very time I comment lately you guys leave for a new thread. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (VezBU)

17 My daughter makes rat treats. Lay a maracshino cherry on its side such that the stem serves as the tail. Attach a chocolate kiss to the other end to serve as the head. Then attach two almond slices as ears. I think she uses something for eyes and whiskers, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (Nwg0u)

18 A bye week for Bama means yardwork for Toby.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:10 AM (60v4h)

19 That doesn't stop me from making sure just in case that I don't have a bag of candy. Which of course means afterward I have to eat every piece.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:10 AM (aC6Sd)

20 Rural kids go to closest town on Halloween so we are safe tricks-treaters.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 28, 2017 11:12 AM (0n18S)

21 We didn't have candy last year cause we were going out. We walk out the garage and there's an adorable 3 year old. When we said we didn't have candy she cried, so this year we are shamed into it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:12 AM (VezBU)

22 Awww....cute bat cat!

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:12 AM (Enq6K)

23 15 WeaselDog is not amused by people ringing our doorbell.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (Sfs6o)

Neither are Tamis3dogs. Ugh.

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:13 AM (Enq6K)

24 Hey Weasel. Yeah, we have to lock my dog up on Halloween. She doesn't do well with doorbells or anyone knocking at the door. Plus she tries to bolt if given opportunity.

Posted by: lin-duh falling at October 28, 2017 11:14 AM (kufk0)

25 At my place in Kenosha, I had maybe 6 trick-or-treaters in 17 years. Last year I wasn't here in our new place on Halloween. Rev said we got totally swamped. Now I'm thinking I need another bag of candy. Not a big fan of Halloween.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 11:15 AM (lwiT4)

26 Are there any dogs that like strangers ringing their doorbell?

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 11:15 AM (rmVvL)

27 17 My daughter makes rat treats. Lay a maracshino cherry on its side such that the stem serves as the tail. Attach a chocolate kiss to the other end to serve as the head. Then attach two almond slices as ears. I think she uses something for eyes and whiskers, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 28, 2017 11:09 AM (Nwg0u)

How does she hide the razor Blades? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:16 AM (VezBU)

28 That damn Trump is up to it again. Good thing CNN is there to straighten him out.

CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
Republicans and President Trump try to flip the script on Russia collusion http://cnn.it/2zcbhaC
7:32 PM - Oct 27, 2017

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 28, 2017 11:16 AM (Nwg0u)

29 WeaselDog is not amused by people ringing our doorbell.

At Halloween? It really is the sweetest sound...

Posted by: Hairy Reed at October 28, 2017 11:17 AM (tIhIY)

30 A bye week for Bama means yardwork for Toby.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:10 AM (60v4h)
=================

Is Toby your man-servant?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 11:17 AM (lwiT4)

31 Here its a few hundred feet between each house, and housing developments with lots closer together down the street.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:17 AM (aC6Sd)

32 Ah, youse lame brains! Lei off the cultural appropriation!

*pokes kid in the eye wearing Moana costume*

Posted by: Moe Ana at October 28, 2017 11:17 AM (/qEW2)

33 A graveyard smash!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 28, 2017 11:17 AM (Ndje9)

34 That was a good video on the alt-right. To sum it up, I would say that they are like the old style KKK democrats, so indeed have much in common with modern democrats.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:18 AM (gjGvH)

35 Yeah "flip the script" ,because Trump was clearly actually begind that crooked Uranium deal and funneling all that Russian cash to the Clinton's...

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 11:18 AM (rmVvL)

36 Fox news this morning had doggy costumes, pretty cute.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:19 AM (aC6Sd)

37 CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
Republicans and President Trump try to flip the script on Russia collusion http://cnn.it/2zcbhaC
7:32 PM - Oct 27, 2017

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 28, 2017 11:16 AM (Nwg0u)

Yeah, that darn conservative publication, WaPo!

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:19 AM (Enq6K)

38 We don't either. But that might because of the dark, long forboding driveway to our house

The heads on pikes are also dissuading.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:07 AM (8jetd)

No pikes, just a lot of Pines close to the edge of the drive. It might be the hanging effigy of Hillary strung up across the driveway.

Living out in the country does have its perks.

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:20 AM (R5lpX)

39 CNN is probably a principle customer of Fusion GPS and the CGI schmear division.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 28, 2017 11:20 AM (9vbJt)

40 Is Art Bell doing "Ghost to Ghost AM" this time? Is he even still alive?

Has anyone actually seen George Norrie in person? The speculation is that "George" is a computer generated voice only. Not a real person.

Posted by: the guy across the street at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (sf2BM)

41 Taking about Halloween, as a kids we tried to have costumes of the scariest things/ people we could think of. One year one of dressed up al Adolph Hitler. Probably wouldn't go over to well in this day and age, but maybe Antifa would approve.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (gjGvH)

42 We don't either. But that might because of the dark, long forboding driveway to our house

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The heads on pikes are also dissuading.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2017 11:07 AM (8jetd)

True story, I used to decorate the front for Halloween, and I don't do cute. No smiling pumpkins, no cute ghosts.

We had tombstones, heads on pikes, large ghouls, and various window displays.

We got on average 2-4 trick or treaters, which consisted of maybe one or two little ones in princess outfits or something like that (they didn't want to approach). One or two groups of teenagers, possibly not even in costumes, who liked the displays.

Not anymore. My kids are older, and frankly it's not worth the effort.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (Pz4pT)

43 Trump welcomes reporters kids to WH for Halloween. Jabbed press to them. Very funny.

http://tinyurl.com/ya2ff95n

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (VezBU)

44 Speaking of the Irish (which we were on the earlier thread), my husband and I were staying at a Savannah hotel years ago (before moving here) over St. Patrick's Day weekend.

The Parade committee was holding their annual breakfast in the hotel dining room (complete with green grits). My husband had gone down to fetch coffee, and came into our room grinning from ear to ear.

"You won't believe what just happened! Some old parade committee guy poured whiskey in the green grits and caught the tablecloth on fire!"

A couple of years ago, that very same old guy died and the Burning of the Tablecloth was in his obit.

Priceless.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (PY9jH)

45 "Dressing up as Hitler in school.... isn't cool."

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 28, 2017 11:22 AM (Tiuj+)

46 I think the parents in my neighborhood are more into Halloween than the kids. There are several houses that hand out Jell-O shots to the adults. Then there are the people walking around with wagons with coolers that are basically rolling bars. There are drop in parties for adults too. I basically bribe my kids not to trick or treat and just hand out candy instead.

Posted by: lin-duh falling at October 28, 2017 11:22 AM (kufk0)

47 While we're on the subject of obsession with race, maybe some kids are confused because it is okay with many on the Left that Disney appropriated Polynesian culture in order to make a movie about Moana, but it is not okay for little white girls to dress up like this fictional princess.

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Why are people still watching the crapola Disney puts out anyway?

It's like the NFL or Disney owned sports network, ESPN. They have contempt for their fans. They hate them and they want new fans. Like the battered spouse, people should leave. Ignore Disney, their movies, their costumes, etc. Just stick to classic Disney, before it lost its moral compass.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 11:23 AM (/qEW2)

48 40 Is Art Bell doing "Ghost to Ghost AM" this time? Is he even still alive?

Has anyone actually seen George Norrie in person? The speculation is that "George" is a computer generated voice only. Not a real person.

Posted by: the guy across the street at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (sf2BM)

Seriously? Norrie is an alien in hiding...obviously.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:23 AM (VezBU)

49 We usually give out glow stick type things and tootsie pops to the younger ones. Will get maybe 30-50 little monsters if the weather is good.

Posted by: Trainer at October 28, 2017 11:24 AM (7EbAY)

50 Is Art Bell doing "Ghost to Ghost AM" this time? Is he even still alive?

Has anyone actually seen George Norrie in person? The speculation is that "George" is a computer generated voice only. Not a real person.
Posted by: the guy across the street at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (sf2BM)

I used to love Art Bell. Last I heard he was still at it. Noury (I think that's the spelling) used to do a show here locally in St. Louis, before he took over Bell's gig.

A bit of a lefty, if I recall, but I think his shows were not specifically politics focused.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:24 AM (Pz4pT)

51 For Halloween treats, hand out beef jerky. High protein, zero carbs. Very good for GAINZZZ considering the obesity epidemic among kids.

Posted by: Jason Fung at October 28, 2017 11:24 AM (/qEW2)

52 Abercrombie @Fitch have lovely ad I saw watching a college football game last night.Basically about do whatever you want in colege because it is your last fling.Of course they show 2 chicks making out(at least not dudes,yet)

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 11:25 AM (rmVvL)

53 There once was a bad cop named Mueller
who couldn't have been any duller
His crack team of Hillary donors
elicited schadenboners
when they tracked him from the crumbs of his cruller.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 28, 2017 11:25 AM (Ndje9)

54 There is a haunted trail that is done every other year in our community. It costs $$$ and it takes the guy who does it nearly a month to get it ready. It's on a golf cart path, and has lots of animation (and human ghostly volunteers). Hundreds of people come to experience it.

That particular neighborhood is the only one where the kids trick-or-treat, and many of the adults set up tables with free beer for the grownups.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:25 AM (PY9jH)

55 45 "Dressing up as Hitler in school.... isn't cool."

Well, one year a brother of mine was a ghost. Basically a white sheet with holes cut in it for eyes. Shouldn't have left the top so pointy...

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:26 AM (gjGvH)

56 Speaking of Halloween, now Bob Corker is threatening to run for preezy in 2020.

He and Flake are the new heroes of the libs in our local paper.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:27 AM (PY9jH)

57 Has anyone ever seen Art Bell and Banana Splits Guy in the same room?

I think not!

I'm sensing some kind of cover up.

Posted by: the guy across the street at October 28, 2017 11:27 AM (sf2BM)

58 Posted by: the guy across the street at October 28, 2017 11:21 AM (sf2BM)

I used to love Art Bell. Last I heard he was still at it. Noury (I think that's the spelling) used to do a show here locally in St. Louis, before he took over Bell's gig.

A bit of a lefty, if I recall, but I think his shows were not specifically politics focused.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:24 AM (Pz4pT)

Noory.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:27 AM (Pz4pT)

59 Speakin' of racist sexist homophobe b.s...

The actual church that the Father of our Country attended now says that a plaque honoring said Father must be removed, because it makes some attendees feel "unwelcome or unsafe". Seriously?

https://tinyurl.com/George-Washington-s-Church-Say

Posted by: antisocialist at October 28, 2017 11:28 AM (6XTYC)

60 For a time there, "alt-right" meant alternative to GOPe and RINO right.

Wasn't Breitbart "alt-right" a year back? Then Trump came out with closing borders and America First, and the left (as I see it) decided the whole "alt-right" movement had to be labeled racist, conflated with white supremacist.

So the guy in this Prager video ... not sure how he gets to decide what "alt-right" means, just because he says the name tells us it is alternative to "the right" (and he adds conservatism in with it).

I guess the MFM has thoroughly saturated the low info people with
"alt-right = KKK/Nazi", but there are many that think it means an alternative to the uniparty.

"Alt-right" actually ... if he wants to say it is right in the name ... means "an alternative right" ... NOT "an alternative TO the right". So he added a word to completely change the syntax, and he gives an opposite meaning.

From there he too conflates any that were an alternative right (Trumpists, tea party, border control, America First) ... into the KKK/Nazis. sheesh.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 11:28 AM (/aIFg)

61 Think I'm going to be a pissed off old white guy for Halloween again this year.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:28 AM (Sfs6o)

62 47
Why are people still watching the crapola Disney puts out anyway?

It's like the NFL or Disney owned sports network, ESPN. They have contempt for their fans. They hate them and they want new fans. Like the battered spouse, people should leave. Ignore Disney, their movies, their costumes, etc. Just stick to classic Disney, before it lost its moral compass.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 11:23 AM (/qEW2)

Yeah, I think ol' Walt is probably spinning in his grave.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 11:29 AM (sdi6R)

63 We had very few kids trick or treating when we lived in Connecticut. One year, when we had a grand total of 3 kids, a friend said to me, "If you had known that, you could of bought them each a Gameboy and spent less."

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:29 AM (Enq6K)

64 Good morning all! Was up till all hours last night with grandpuppy trying to play with Dog and Cat and I'm exhausted. Have to find my ironing board to press trousers for wedding tonight. Comfortable dress loafers rather than my 'dress' crocs (my kids gripe about my socks and crocs all the time). Weather changing and my sinuses are giving me a killer headache. Puppy is finally asleep under the kitchen table and Cat is off hiding somewhere sulking. Dog is already fed up with puppy, but puppy will give me a good excuse to leave early when my sociability is gone.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2017 11:29 AM (MIKMs)

65 There's a Mom in the neighborhood that passes out beers to the Dads walking their kids around every year. My youngest is 24 so none of mine do the Halloween thing anymore.

She's dressed up like catwoman.

Meowwwww!

I usually stop in twice. (I think she knows I'm double dipping)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 28, 2017 11:30 AM (tr2D7)

66 Tami sure, but the following year you would have a thousand kids as word would have spread where the good cht could be had.

and they would never forget.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:31 AM (FKrah)

67 I usually stop in twice. (I think she knows I'm double dipping)

Posted by: Tonypete at October 28, 2017 11:30 AM (tr2D7)

I already know this. Now, could you remove the tin foil you have on your bedroom window?

Posted by: "Major" Ed Dames at October 28, 2017 11:32 AM (sf2BM)

68 Speaking of Halloween, now Bob Corker is threatening to run for preezy in 2020.

He and Flake are the new heroes of the libs in our local paper.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:27 AM (PY9jH)

Yup. Jim Jeffords and Arlen Spector all over again. Both too stupid to understand the love the got for traitoring was not going to last.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:33 AM (Pz4pT)

69 When I was a medical rep. Our biggest hospital account had a hallway Down in the basement for the hospitalized kids and I helped them go all out. Lights turned down. Head on a plate (real person that screamed when you came by) Stick hand in box and "brains"..creative stuff. We were gentle with the kids. But when the staff came down all bets were off. When they thought they had reached the end and had relaxed I jumped out in a monster mask with a bloody cleaver. Some people fell on the floor and screamed. Seemed the black folks got scared the most.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:33 AM (VezBU)

70 There's a Mom in the neighborhood that passes out beers to the Dads walking their kids around every year. My youngest is 24 so none of mine do the Halloween thing anymore.

She's dressed up like catwoman.

Meowwwww!

I usually stop in twice. (I think she knows I'm double dipping)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 28, 2017 11:30 AM (tr2D7)

Hey, free beer is free beer, even if it's Sheaffers.

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:33 AM (R5lpX)

71 Tony, she likes you, she really likes you.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:33 AM (FKrah)

72 66 Tami sure, but the following year you would have a thousand kids as word would have spread where the good cht could be had.

and they would never forget.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:31 AM (FKrah)

Lol! True...but the little brats would have been disappointed.

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:33 AM (Enq6K)

73 We had literally a good hundred kids for Halloween in our Chicagoland neighborhood.

I spent a fortune on candy every year. People drove their kids to our street. The kicker was after the little kids left, teenagers sans costumes showed up demanding candy. You didn't dare not give them anything, because they'd trash your yard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (PY9jH)

74 not fond of Halloween, i think reality scares me enough.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (FKrah)

75 If we buy just a bag or two of candy, we have swarms of trick or treaters...so, the next year, we buy enough for swarms. And get 3. All of them related to me.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (6XTYC)

76 As one could imagine quite occasionally I catch a bit of Coast to Coast, every night could be Halloween listening to that.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:35 AM (aC6Sd)

77 We sometimes get 1 or 2 T or T'ers but most years none.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:36 AM (Sfs6o)

78 We don't get trick or treaters on our street, and I turn off the porch lights just in case newbies aren't aware to go to the neighborhood with the haunted trail and free beer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:36 AM (PY9jH)

79 I spent a fortune on candy every year. People drove their kids to our street. The kicker was after the little kids left, teenagers sans costumes showed up demanding candy. You didn't dare not give them anything, because they'd trash your yard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (PY9jH)

I always answer the door for the teenagers with my sidearm. You know... as a prop.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (VezBU)

80 Idea for a multicultural Halloween costume:

Elsa's dress + Colin Kaepernick wig.

Call it 'Fro zen.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (/qEW2)

81 Tami, then you would have been like Cannibal Bob and felt obligated to perform for the cute tot.
I say screaming shrilly at the kids to scare them away permanently is the answer.

a vicious circle.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (FKrah)

82 The kicker was after the little kids left, teenagers sans costumes showed up demanding candy. You didn't dare not give them anything, because they'd trash your yard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (PY9jH)

Yep...doorbell ditch, leaving a burning paper bag full of dog crap at the front door waiting for the unsuspecting home owner to come out and stomp it out...good times.

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (R5lpX)

83 My schadenboner reports wild life in Uranus.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (tbOMB)

84 I always answer the door for the teenagers with my sidearm. You know... as a prop.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (VezBU)

heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (PY9jH)

85 From there he too conflates any that were an alternative right (Trumpists, tea party, border control, America First) ... into the KKK/Nazis. sheesh.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 11:28 AM (/aIFg)

Personally I think it's kinda dumb to try to define such things. Too much work, and nobody is going to agree with him.

Except maybe the 600 people he mentioned, who want to see themselves as true believers.

As you suggest too, all this stuff is shifting sands right now. All the old definitions, the old alliances, they're all being challenged, and nobody... I mean NOBODY knows where this is going to settle.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (Pz4pT)

86 "As one could imagine quite occasionally I catch a bit of Coast to Coast, every night could be Halloween listening to that."

Used to be that you would get some of the best Ghost stories on Meow-olween.

Last year was a bit, not good.

Posted by: the guy across the street at October 28, 2017 11:38 AM (sf2BM)

87 I take a snarling WeaselDog to the door and say "my dog doesn't like you."

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:38 AM (Sfs6o)

88 anyway holloween was really a fun time when i was a kid.

we try to keep the candy bowls filled

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:39 AM (FKrah)

89 >>CNN is probably a principle customer of Fusion GPS and the CGI schmear division.

No probably about it. Evan Perez, the CNN justice correspondent, is along time friend of some of the guys at Fusion.

He is also the guy who broke the Mueller indictment story yesterday.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2017 11:39 AM (/tuJf)

90 79 I spent a fortune on candy every year. People drove their kids to our street. The kicker was after the little kids left, teenagers sans costumes showed up demanding candy. You didn't dare not give them anything, because they'd trash your yard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (PY9jH)

I always answer the door for the teenagers with my sidearm. You know... as a prop.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:37 AM (VezBU)

You'd probably get arrested in the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:39 AM (gjGvH)

91 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 11:23 AM (/qEW2)

Yeah, I think ol' Walt is probably spinning in his grave.
Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 11:29 AM (sdi6R)

The body maybe. The head, just kinda sits there in the ice tank.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (Pz4pT)

92 It occurs to me now that I'm the crazy person on the street.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (Sfs6o)

93 You'd probably get arrested in the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:39 AM (gjGvH)

No doubt. Arizona...not so much.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (VezBU)

94 morning Burt.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (FKrah)

95 Weasel, just occurred to you?

(kidding!)

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:41 AM (FKrah)

96
We had literally a good hundred kids for Halloween in our Chicagoland neighborhood.
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I always applied for the half day because Halloween was the BIG holiday. Neighbors with attached garages would make little spook trails and some of the neighbors got together and divided by age. One of the neighbors always fired up the barbecue and gave out hotdogs to the hardcore older kids. Youngest kidlet went until she left to school -- but she worked hard on costume so people gave her a lot. I like seeing the teens as long as they are costumed. Yeah, I used to get a case of beer to hand out to the parents doing escort duty.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2017 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

97 92 It occurs to me now that I'm the crazy person on the street.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (Sfs6o)

Uh,...we know you. Its not just the street. I mean that with respect.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:42 AM (VezBU)

98 Evan Perez, the CNN justice correspondent, is along time friend of some of the guys at Fusion.

He is also the guy who broke the Mueller indictment story yesterday.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2017 11:39 AM (/tuJf
Yeah, all the panelists on Heiress Cooper 360 were giddy over anyone associated with Trump being arrested on Monday. I was yelling at our former congressman and friend Jack Kingston to speak up. Every time he did, he was shouted down by the screeching mob.

My husband finally said, "You DO realize no one can hear you, right?"

Yeesh. I ended up watching "There's Something About Mary."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:42 AM (PY9jH)

99 95 Weasel, just occurred to you?

(kidding!)
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:41 AM (FKrah)
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Ha! Truth be told, I've sort of cultivated the image.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:42 AM (Sfs6o)

100 Yeah, I used to get a case of beer to hand out to the parents doing escort duty.

The best costume would be to dress up like a parent on escort duty. "Umm, you're only three feet tall 'Mr. Smith'..."

Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2017 11:44 AM (7ulel)

101 Would feel bad not to mention F-1 Qualifying is at 2pm AoSHq time for the Mexican Grand Prix

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:44 AM (aC6Sd)

102 aw Weasel, you're a swell guy.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (FKrah)

103 The best costume would be to dress up like a parent on escort duty. "Umm, you're only three feet tall 'Mr. Smith'..."
Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2017 11:44 AM (7ulel

What do ya got against short people?

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (R5lpX)

104 97 92 It occurs to me now that I'm the crazy person on the street.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (Sfs6o)

Uh,...we know you. Its not just the street. I mean that with respect.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:42 AM (VezBU)
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I'm looking forward to the time in a few more years when I can sit on the porch in my underwear and yell at people and throw rocks at cars.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (Sfs6o)

105 Would feel bad not to mention F-1 Qualifying is at 2pm AoSHq time for the Mexican Grand Prix

So, about 1:51 pm real time?

Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (7ulel)

106 morning Burt.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:40 AM (FKrah)

What's so morning about it.

No but seriously, good morning!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:46 AM (Pz4pT)

107 I'm looking forward to the time in a few more years
when I can sit on the porch in my underwear and yell at people and throw
rocks at cars.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (Sfs6o)

You can tell people you're Pappy Bush for Halloween. Or McCain.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:46 AM (PY9jH)

108 So anyone going to dress as failed candidate Hillary! perhaps? Black van option accessory.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 28, 2017 11:46 AM (ZkuhM)

109 bad not to mention F-1 Qualifying is at 2pm AoSHq time for the Mexican Grand Prix
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:44 AM (aC6Sd)

What's that? Is that like a scene from the Cheech & Chong movie where hundreds of illegal cross the border at the same time?

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:47 AM (gjGvH)

110 So anyone going to dress as failed candidate Hillary! perhaps? Black van option accessory.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 28, 2017 11:46 AM (ZkuhM)

Stagger around in a frumpy pantsuit lugging a bottle of vodka?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:47 AM (PY9jH)

111 Local radio airs "Ground Zero" w/Clyde Lewis....pretty lame/flaky.

Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2017 11:47 AM (GiOiK)

112 Commas. How do they work? *sigh*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:48 AM (PY9jH)

113 Tampa had Guavaween. Big prizes in Ybor city. Streets closed. Crazy. Very creative. Couples had a balll.

Hershey's with nuts and Hershey's with tits, was a fav.

The Fallopean swim team. a gal dressed as an 'egg' and 3 guys dressed like sperm chasing her around. Big adult fun.

Another couple. He dressed as a plug. Her as a socket and when they plugged in Christmas lights went on.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:48 AM (VezBU)

114 I'm looking forward to the time in a few more years when I can sit on the porch in my underwear and yell at people and throw rocks at cars.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (Sfs6o)

Why wait....no one knows what tomorrow may bring.

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:48 AM (Enq6K)

115 A take on the Mueller indictments story.

http://tinyurl.com/ydb3vn9l

Posted by: geoffb at October 28, 2017 11:49 AM (zOpu5)

116 Our local station used to play a lot of haunted Washington D.C. Stories and old radio classics like War of the Worlds. I love, love, love old radio programs.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:49 AM (Sfs6o)

117 should we be proactive and set up a gofundme page for weasel.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:49 AM (FKrah)

118
I'm looking forward to the time in a few more years when I can sit on the porch in my underwear and yell at people and throw rocks at cars.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM (Sfs6o)

Lol. I'm in. What do you drink? Lol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 28, 2017 11:50 AM (VezBU)

119 We had literally a good hundred kids for Halloween in our Chicagoland neighborhood.

I spent a fortune on candy every year. People drove their kids to our street. The kicker was after the little kids left, teenagers sans costumes showed up demanding candy. You didn't dare not give them anything, because they'd trash your yard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:34 AM (PY9jH)

I have a relative who lives on a street where they get, I think, a thousand or more swarms of people who don't live in the neighborhood.

They don't care for it, but the neighborhood kinda demands you participate. The neighbors who don't are badmouthed by everyone else, the other 364 days of the year.

There's a dentist on the street. Yes, he gives out toothbrushes. Jerk.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:50 AM (Pz4pT)

120 Was up till all hours last night with grandpuppy trying to play with Dog and Cat and I'm exhausted.

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*hi-5*

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at October 28, 2017 11:50 AM (hMwEB)

121 Dress up as a tumor with McCains head popping out

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 28, 2017 11:50 AM (CDETr)

122 is it true they are saying an arrest is going to happen next week?

is that someone on our team?

and is Mueller involved in covering up or a straight shooter?
Because i had thought he was a decent guy?

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:51 AM (FKrah)

123 Morning, Horde. Beautiful morning, the tourist traffic going into Salem is screwing up my errands, and I have to replace garbage disposal. Yay.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 28, 2017 11:51 AM (vl/Ln)

124 We had friends here who used to host a yuge Halloween party every year. Sadly, the wife hasn't been well in a while and they don't throw one anymore. Anyhow, the last party was after the BP oil spill, and a group of us went as a BP oil spill crew, and wore white paper jumpsuits and hard hats. I carried an "oil soaked dead bird" on my belt.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 28, 2017 11:51 AM (PY9jH)

125 Why wait....no one knows what tomorrow may bring.
Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 11:48 AM (Enq6K)
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I need to get to the point where being arrested for disturbing the peace won't matter and the cops will just treat me like an eccentric old character giving the city flavor and texture.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:52 AM (Sfs6o)

126 Dress up as a tumor with McCains head popping out
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 28, 2017 11:50 AM

It's not McCain!

Posted by: The Tumah at October 28, 2017 11:53 AM (vl/Ln)

127 There's a Mom in the neighborhood that passes out beers to the Dads walking their kids around every year. My youngest is 24 so none of mine do the Halloween thing anymore.

...

Posted by: Tonypete at October 28, 2017 11:30 AM (tr2D7)

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There was a funny SNL Conehead skit (Akroyd/Curtin) where they were passing out six packs of beer to children on Halloween.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 11:53 AM (/qEW2)

128 dress up as a tumor with McCains head popping out
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that was just so wrong.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:53 AM (FKrah)

129 127 The Coneheads movie is actually a hidden gem of a movie.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 11:54 AM (rmVvL)

130 A take on the Mueller indictments story.

http://tinyurl.com/ydb3vn9l
Posted by: geoffb at October 28, 2017 11:49 AM (zOpu5)

I don't care. I'm just not going to pay any attention.

Someone is going to be Scooter Libby'd. And the pigs can point and laugh, while waiting for Trump (or in some people's minds, worse, Bannon) to be frogmarched out.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:54 AM (Pz4pT)

131 Did notice yesterday the AoSHq clock is off actual time again.
11:58

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 11:55 AM (aC6Sd)

132 Remember the left giddy about "Fitzmas"?

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 11:55 AM (rmVvL)

133 my oldest sister/spouse used to be in a motorcycle (dirt bikes, sand rails )group, they would pull some crazy holloween stuff in the wildernesses to eachother. all adults.

grown ups, pfft.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:56 AM (FKrah)

134 130 A take on the Mueller indictments story.

http://tinyurl.com/ydb3vn9l
Posted by: geoffb at October 28, 2017 11:49 AM (zOpu5)

I don't care. I'm just not going to pay any attention.

Someone is going to be Scooter Libby'd. And the pigs can point and laugh, while waiting for Trump (or in some people's minds, worse, Bannon) to be frogmarched out.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:54 AM (Pz4pT)

Yeah, the entire rotten structure reminds me of a story about an old VW van in Hawaii covered in duct tape. Someone decided to look under and found the duct tape was the only thing holding the rusted metal onto the frame.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 11:57 AM (gjGvH)

135 That's a weak Prager vid, not up to their usual standards. He "took a deep dive into Alt-Right culture"? Bullshit.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at October 28, 2017 11:57 AM (/Ku8v)

136 dress up as a tumor with McCains head popping out
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that was just so wrong.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:53 AM (FKrah)

Oh!

The redlettermedia fellas were talking about the twin movies, Reanimator and From Beyond. In From Beyond, they talk about stimulating the pineal gland, and the little fella pops out of the middle of the forehead...

I could see a Mccane mask, with a thin little pineal sticking out of it!

It would look obscene, but it would be oh so funny. And nobody would get the joke.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 11:58 AM (Pz4pT)

137 it's pretty rotten to have zip trust in our govt agencies .
This really can't be good for the country.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:58 AM (FKrah)

138 Burt, you guys have strange minds!

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:59 AM (FKrah)

139 There's a dentist on the street. Yes, he gives out toothbrushes. Jerk.
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I used to confiscate those for cleaning (polishing brass, etc) and was really disappointed when she started giving out little floss picks.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2017 12:00 PM (MIKMs)

140 This Russian collusion investigation has had almost a year and not one thing from that and thousands of hours and millions spent, Lavrentiy Beria is rolling in his grave I bet.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 12:00 PM (aC6Sd)

141 although i can't believe i had voted for that guy. (palin really)

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:01 PM (FKrah)

142 Transistor radio and a large sum of money to spend

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 28, 2017 12:02 PM (PUmDY)

143 Yeah, the entire rotten structure reminds me of a story about an old VW
van in Hawaii covered in duct tape. Someone decided to look under and
found the duct tape was the only thing holding the rusted metal onto the
frame.
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Don't laugh but I think my minivan will be held together with that tape advertized on TV -- the one that holds the boat together.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2017 12:02 PM (MIKMs)

144 134, 130,

The interesting thing is that only CNN is reporting it.
http://tinyurl.com/y8wqhlhm

So banana, apple, or lemon?

Posted by: geoffb at October 28, 2017 12:02 PM (zOpu5)

145 I realize I'm a thread behind but I am not going to buy a bottle of gin that has been cursed by a witch. There are some things you just don't want to play with.

https://goo.gl/jS2TDb

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 28, 2017 12:02 PM (nvMvs)

146
Toe-poppers do very well at discouraging unwanted visitors. Not as dramatic as claymores.

At our other house, my previous lab would accompany the kids, down one side of the road and up the other until they reached us again, then back in the house she would come. Kids would ask if she could go, fool dog loved being near children.

Can't do that now, everyone comes in cars. Sign of the times, I guess.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 28, 2017 12:04 PM (S/hVx)

147 That classic bat-kitten pic up top - inspiring conflicting emotions:

d'aaawww
eeeeeek!
d'aaawww
eeeeeek!
d'aaawww
eeeeeek!

Posted by: mindful webworker's shot at willowing at October 28, 2017 12:04 PM (fBape)

148 I need to get to the point where being arrested for disturbing the peace won't matter and the cops will just treat me like an eccentric old character giving the city flavor and texture.
Posted by: Weasel
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I see you have reading my newsletter carefully.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 28, 2017 12:04 PM (tr2D7)

149 128
dress up as a tumor with McCains head popping out

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that was just so wrong.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 11:53 AM (FKrah)

Its McCain...I give no f's

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 28, 2017 12:05 PM (CDETr)

150 144 134, 130,

The interesting thing is that only CNN is reporting it.
http://tinyurl.com/y8wqhlhm

So banana, apple, or lemon?
Posted by: geoffb at October 28, 2017 12:02 PM (zOpu5)

More like a rotten durian

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 12:05 PM (gjGvH)

151 "As you suggest too, all this stuff is shifting sands
right now. All the old definitions, the old alliances, they're all
being challenged, and nobody... I mean NOBODY knows where this is going
to settle.

Posted by: BurtTC

yeah, but Spencer only gets attention because he is a jerk that pushes crap like the tiki march, or has a few juvenilles give Hitler salutes like that is hilarious. So his little crowd gets all the press.

Paul Joseph Watson says there are two alt-rights (Spencer may have started using it, not sure he really was the first to use the term though). Watson get about 50 times the you-tube traffic of Spencer, but the MFM loves Spencer, so he gets all their attention as they redefine "alt-right" as KKK/Nazi.

http://tinyurl.com/hm7ahd5
paul joseph watson two altrights
Watson had a sort of twitter battle with Spencer ... Vox Day and Molyneaux also have a long video on "what is alt-right" which I might get to. I don't think those guys are racist, nor do they want to remove other races ... they want to maintain our culture and heritage, as opposed to the mass immigration (invasion) that is destroying Europe, for instance.

that was about a year ago, maybe they have given up on using the term since the media (and the "right") have bashed it and used it for Trump even. It is just part of the smear campaign of the MFM to destroy what used to be a useful term. Spencer might as well be working for the left, if he isn't.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 12:06 PM (/aIFg)

152 147 That classic bat-kitten pic up top - inspiring conflicting emotions:

d'aaawww
eeeeeek!
d'aaawww
eeeeeek!
d'aaawww
eeeeeek!
Posted by: mindful webworker's shot at willowing at October 28, 2017 12:04 PM (fBape)

Somebody linked a video last week about a tame bat making contented sounds while being petted. That was d'aaawww.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 12:07 PM (sdi6R)

153 YT is even censoring lefty media they brand as wrongthink. Sane Progressive is one of them. I think they even messed with Sargon.

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 12:07 PM (n6gcM)

154 At our other house, my previous lab would accompany the kids, down one
side of the road and up the other until they reached us again, then back
in the house she would come. Kids would ask if she could go, fool dog
loved being near children.
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One of mine loved candy and tolerated kids. So little ones had to hold up their bags high so dog didn't steal their candy. They liked that game and it made them less worried about the dog.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 28, 2017 12:07 PM (MIKMs)

155 i wouldn't be at all surprised if spencer actually did work for the left.

there is a term for that, but my brain has been flopping around uselessly the last week.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:08 PM (FKrah)

156 Speakin' of racist sexist homophobe b.s...

The actual church that the Father of our Country attended now says that a plaque honoring said Father must be removed, because it makes some attendees feel "unwelcome or unsafe". Seriously?

https://tinyurl.com/George-Washington-s-Church-Say

Posted by: antisocialist at October 28, 2017 11:28 AM (6XTYC)

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Not surprising. It's under the control of the Episcopal Church, which has been radical leftist for many decades. They actively promote homosexuality, abortion, downplay the authority of scripture, etc. The only surprising thing is that it took this long.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 12:08 PM (/qEW2)

157
No Hallow ween candy here. Don't bother knocking.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 28, 2017 12:10 PM (4XCge)

158 Youtube and the other dominate social media need to be declared common carriers like the phone company. Then they don't get to restrict content just report if it breaks laws. A side benefit is their executives then become as news worthy as the Ma Bell ones were.

Posted by: geoffb at October 28, 2017 12:12 PM (zOpu5)

159 CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
Republicans and President Trump try to flip the script on Russia collusion http://cnn.it/2zcbhaC
7:32 PM - Oct 27, 2017

We're not sure just how Trump and the Republicans got the Clintons and the DNC to pay for that Russian-sourced pi$$gate dossier, but we know they did.

Posted by: mindful webworker's political savvy at October 28, 2017 12:13 PM (fBape)

160 I posted the bat video.

http://youtu.be/WVz8rvIl_vY

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 12:16 PM (rmVvL)

161 Not surprising. It's under the control of the Episcopal Church,
which has been radical leftist for many decades. They actively promote homosexuality, abortion, downplay the authority of scripture, etc. The only surprising thing is that it took this long.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 12:08 PM (/qEW2)
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Our friend (who nuptualized WW and me) later went on to become the minister at this church - Christ Church in Alexandria. He's no longer there but I wish he were so I could tell him they are acting like f'ing retards.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

162 The actual church that the Father of our Country attended now says that a plaque honoring said Father must be removed, because it makes some attendees feel "unwelcome or unsafe". Seriously?

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LOL. They need to update their site. Their "about" page still has as one of its selling points that there is a pew that George Washington once worshipped:

http://www.historicchristchurch.org/about-us/

This page is a good primer to learn weasel wording that liberal churches often use to avoid spooking off people.

"In accordance with federal law and with the Episcopal Church we are honored to offer the sacrament of marriage to all people."

"We make room for folks wherever they are on their spiritual journey."

"We make room for folks wherever they are on their spiritual journey." (yeah, like ordained minister Anne Holmes-Redding, who claimed to be a Muslim and an Episcopalian)

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 12:17 PM (/qEW2)

163 Can't do that now, everyone comes in cars
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My parents' street bans street parking on Halloween. It's an extremely popular street for trick-or-treaters, and having cars constantly parking or pulling out would be dangerous for the kids. So the residents get a permit to ban street parking for the night.

People still drive to the neighborhood. They just have to park elsewhere.

Posted by: junior at October 28, 2017 12:17 PM (gJaVc)

164 Gut Gott In Himmel. I hate cats

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 28, 2017 12:18 PM (PUmDY)

165 ...weasel wording...
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*ahem*

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 12:18 PM (Sfs6o)

166 that was about a year ago, maybe they have given up on using the term since the media (and the "right") have bashed it and used it for Trump even. It is just part of the smear campaign of the MFM to destroy what used to be a useful term. Spencer might as well be working for the left, if he isn't.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 12:06 PM (/aIFg)

That's the thing, I don't care how sensible a group may be, as soon as you put yourself out there, there is going to be an alternative to you, twisting what you say and do, to the point of you having to fight the narrative that is created (and aided by the media) by them to describe you.

It's a fool's game.

Which is not me calling anyone who plays it a fool, I'm just saying it devolves inevitably to a turf war with nothing to gain except maybe vanquishing your enemy on the other side. Whichever side that happens to be, and nobody knows who's on what side anymore. There are no sides.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:18 PM (Pz4pT)

167 160 I posted the bat video.

http://youtu.be/WVz8rvIl_vY
Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 12:16 PM (rmVvL)

Thanks! That was really cool.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 12:19 PM (sdi6R)

168 We're supposed to get over two inches of rain tomorrow and 35 mph winds. What the hell?

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 12:21 PM (Sfs6o)

169 Garden thread nood

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 12:21 PM (aC6Sd)

170 i wouldn't be at all surprised if spencer actually did work for the left.

there is a term for that, but my brain has been flopping around uselessly the last week.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:08 PM (FKrah)

Astroturfing?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:22 PM (Pz4pT)

171 Republicans and President Trump try to flip the script on Russia collusion http://cnn.it/2zcbhaC

There is no evidence of Trump collusion except via Manafort, who only colluded with Russians when he was working for...

...CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 12:24 PM (oVJmc)

172 Astroturfing is when you get an organized group to appear, and claim that it's spontaneous grass-roots support.

AKA pretty much what the unions always do.

Posted by: junior at October 28, 2017 12:25 PM (gJaVc)

173 I posted the bat video.

http://youtu.be/WVz8rvIl_vY
Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2017 12:16 PM (rmVvL)

Thanks! That was really cool.
Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 12:19 PM (sdi6R)

It's probably true to say, most mammals, if you could get them to overcome their natural fear of humans, would demonstrate a personality, unique but similar, to the types of animals we consider our pets.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:26 PM (Pz4pT)

174 After waiting for a number of years I finally treated my 11 year old son and 9 year old daughter to Alien for Halloween. Scared the hell out of them but no long term damage detected. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: Keith at October 28, 2017 12:26 PM (USf3s)

175 173 It's probably true to say, most mammals, if you could get them to overcome their natural fear of humans, would demonstrate a personality, unique but similar, to the types of animals we consider our pets.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:26 PM (Pz4pT)

Add birds to that list

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 12:27 PM (gjGvH)

176 Even lizards and turtles

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 12:28 PM (gjGvH)

177 This year I'm going to do some Cultural Appropriation...

I'm gonna dress up as an illegal alien Democrat...

So I can go out and break the law with impunity.

Posted by: Don Q. at October 28, 2017 12:29 PM (NgKpN)

178
170 i wouldn't be at all surprised if spencer actually did work for the left.

there is a term for that, but my brain has been flopping around uselessly the last week.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:08 PM (FKrah)

Astroturfing?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:22 PM (Pz4pT)

A Moby.

Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at October 28, 2017 12:30 PM (cAnNx)

179 I was going to say most animals enjoy a nice head stroking, but I knew what kinds of comments that would elicit

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 12:30 PM (gjGvH)

180 My basement is the CERN of Wrongthink. Alt Wrongthink, that is. The Fermilab too.
Quantum Wrongthink. Yup, the smallest, indivisible unit of wrongthink, the building blocks of Mega-Wrongthink.
Or maybe not.

Posted by: ro-man at October 28, 2017 12:30 PM (RuIsu)

181 So. You know the saying, "may you live in interesting times"? I just had an "interesting week".

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 12:30 PM (sdi6R)

182 Black Friday is ridiculously great

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 28, 2017 12:31 PM (PUmDY)

183 I agree that the indictment target is most likely Manafort, but what if Mueller is playing a deep game and he's in fact targeting Podesta?

Monday media meltdown.

Posted by: phineas gage at October 28, 2017 12:32 PM (ALDN3)

184 I don't want the kids to be indoctrinated by Leftists, the way they have been for the past forty years. If that makes me Alt-Right, then Alt-Right I am. The Left owns the streets, they stage a riot over anything, anytime they feel like it. If someone shows up to dispute this, and maybe puts some of them in the hospital instead of someone's shop maybe being vandalized, forgive me if I miss the Rebel flag tattoo and forget to go "tsk, tsk".

Playing the cucks' game, and adopting the Left's moral framework, is what got this country to this point. Screw that. You can point to Nazis or Klansmen stinking up my side? So what? I can point to Commies or Black Panthers stinking up yours.

Posted by: Monty James at October 28, 2017 12:33 PM (gKOMX)

185 183 I agree that the indictment target is most likely Manafort, but what if Mueller is playing a deep game and he's in fact targeting Podesta?

Monday media meltdown.
Posted by: phineas gage at October 28, 2017 12:32 PM (ALDN3)

With Mueller's ties to Comey, Obama, and Clinton? I seriously doubt it.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 12:33 PM (gjGvH)

186 Since I seem to be all alone upstairs at least go see the flowers posted.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 12:36 PM (aC6Sd)

187 Happy Saturday, Horde!

Halloween treats? Here you go, three drinks unique to me:

151+Rum and Apple Cider (Hardincider)
Red Wine & Prune Juice (Holy Shit)
Tequila and Sweet Tea (Tee-Quila)

All are best on ice. Even the wine, believe it or not.
FFE or FPF (Fire For Effect or Final Protective Fire) they're all delicious sipped and amazingly chuggable.

Try one! I'm enjoying the tea today.
I highly recommend Sauza 3Generations.

If you go to the trouble of mixing several of any of these up, please drink one in prayer for me.

https://tinyurl.com/ybs5h8wa

Posted by: Denny Crane! at October 28, 2017 12:36 PM (4bjXi)

188 " Whichever side that happens to be, and nobody knows who's on what side anymore. There are no sides.

Posted by: BurtTC

true ... sorta. (my mind went to "there is no spoon", The Matrix lol)

Individuals have to think for themselves, but maintaining culture (and understanding the "arch of history that built it) is a pretty big thing. Culture is groups ... and sides. "First principles" ... that sort of thang.

And in time only those that "organize" survive. We have to organize as America first with understanding of how we got our liberty, what makes America exceptional. (which is individual liberty, as opposed to subjects of the king/pope/despot) Under the America thing, we have other local organzations (boy scouts, 4H, little theater, moose club, etc) ... that push their "side". Family is the base unit.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 12:37 PM (/aIFg)

189 170 i wouldn't be at all surprised if spencer actually did work for the left.

there is a term for that, but my brain has been flopping around uselessly the last week.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:08 PM (FKrah)

Astroturfing?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:22 PM (Pz4pT)

A Moby.
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at October 28, 2017 12:30 PM (cAnNx)

Meat space moby? Maybe.

It's more like controlled opposition or false flag.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 28, 2017 12:41 PM (tbOMB)

190 I'm looking forward to the time in a few more years
when I can sit on the porch in my underwear and yell at people and throw
rocks at cars.

Posted by: Weasel at October 28, 2017 11:45 AM
----

I currently glare at people walking their dogs, just waiting for their animal to crap on my lawn.

If they do, they get the "you are picking that up" comment in a very nasty tone.

Posted by: shibumi at October 28, 2017 12:42 PM (aT+Bx)

191 Archbishop gonna sanctify me

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 28, 2017 12:42 PM (PUmDY)

192 59
The actual church that the Father of our Country attended now says that a plaque honoring said Father must be removed, because it makes some attendees feel "unwelcome or unsafe". Seriously?

https://tinyurl.com/George-Washington-s-Church-Say
Posted by: antisocialist at October 28, 2017 11:28 AM (6XTYC)
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I know there are people, even at AoS, who think this stuff is trivial but I believe this is yuuuuuge, the most important issue of our time.

It is not the fact that a tiny handful of people (supposedly) feel "unsafe" and make anti-American demands that signifies. It is the capitulation of the ruling class to this tiny minority that matters.

People who dismiss this as a laughable extremism that cannot win remind me of prodigal heirs who think daddy's stash will never run out.

We are in deep trouble.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 12:43 PM (0jtPF)

193 Alt-Right = alternative to GOPe/Establishment Republicans

That is how I understood it to mean when I started hearing the term several years ago. Then Hillary mentions the term and associates it with racists and we get the typical pearl clutching by the right's soft serve ice cream crowd.

I didn't even know who Richard Spencer was until the losers on the right started bashing him. Essentially doing all the work for the left in redefining the term.

Good job! Here, have some more soft serve:
"For example, both the Alt-Right and the Left are pretty much obsessed with race, while the American Right is not."

Ironically, this is the problem most Alt-Righters have with the GOPe. Always back pedaling to defend their reputation with the media/left and never intending to fight for principles like Free Speech. How can you win the cultural war if you let the other side choose what you can say?

Well at least you are not part of the icky Alt-Right and can sleep well at night all warm, wrapped in your American flag. I'm sure the left will be ok with that.

Posted by: Ceasar at October 28, 2017 12:43 PM (x8dHd)

194 White Lives Matter rally today here in Murfreesboro. Good day to stay home and watch college ball.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 12:43 PM (gC2IV)

195 It is the capitulation of the ruling class to this tiny minority that matters.

People who dismiss this as a laughable extremism that cannot win remind me of prodigal heirs who think daddy's stash will never run out.

We are in deep trouble.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 12:43 PM (0jtPF)

i don't think it's the capitulation of the ruling class i think They are assisting the break down of americas traditions for their own goals.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:46 PM (FKrah)

196 " Whichever side that happens to be, and nobody knows who's on what side anymore. There are no sides.

Posted by: BurtTC

true ... sorta. (my mind went to "there is no spoon", The Matrix lol)

Individuals have to think for themselves, but maintaining culture (and understanding the "arch of history that built it) is a pretty big thing. Culture is groups ... and sides. "First principles" ... that sort of thang.

And in time only those that "organize" survive. We have to organize as America first with understanding of how we got our liberty, what makes America exceptional. (which is individual liberty, as opposed to subjects of the king/pope/despot) Under the America thing, we have other local organzations (boy scouts, 4H, little theater, moose club, etc) ... that push their "side". Family is the base unit.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 12:37 PM (/aIFg)

Agreed. In this age though, I think what it looks like to me is there are so many "sides," politically, that we're moving toward an unworkable political climate. Much like the french had prior to the Second World War, when they were forming governments with coalitions, then some minor disagreement would pop up, and it would trigger new elections, with a new coalition, and that one would break up. They were forming new governments more than once in any given year, so there was no continuity, no permanent majority, no real governing going on at all.

I kinda think that's where we are, although our "two party" system does mask it some.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:49 PM (Pz4pT)

197 192
I know there are people, even at AoS, who think this stuff is trivial but I believe this is yuuuuuge, the most important issue of our time.

It is not the fact that a tiny handful of people (supposedly) feel "unsafe" and make anti-American demands that signifies. It is the capitulation of the ruling class to this tiny minority that matters.

People who dismiss this as a laughable extremism that cannot win remind me of prodigal heirs who think daddy's stash will never run out.

We are in deep trouble.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 12:43 PM (0jtPF)

I was assured on this very blog that tearing down Confederate statues was nothing to get upset about.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 12:51 PM (sdi6R)

198 Since I seem to be all alone upstairs at least go see the flowers posted.
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 12:36 PM (aC6Sd)

Gay.

No but seriously, I might perhaps think about planting tomatoes next year, because they are my drug of choice, and rather than constantly paying the dealer (or begging people I know), I thought maybe it was time for me to supply my own.

Otherwise, the concept of gardening strikes me as a job. I already have a job.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 12:51 PM (Pz4pT)

199 Heard about this the other day on WMAL - 8 costumes to scare wypipo.

Does KaeperDick scare you? I didn't think so.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yc7ft4vd

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 12:52 PM (bjlHK)

200 the ghost flowers are lovely.But i'm in a mood and might tear their heads off.

so i'll leave gardening along today.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:53 PM (FKrah)

201 or alone*

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:53 PM (FKrah)

202 'wypipo?'

Are they making fun of white people, or sloppy ethic pronunciation?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 12:54 PM (oVJmc)

203
'wypipo?'

Are they making fun of white people, or sloppy ethic pronunciation?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 12:54 PM (oVJmc)

It's EthnicTawk. Correct spelling is RAAAAACISS.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 12:56 PM (bjlHK)

204 I'm with Margarita

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 12:57 PM (lwiT4)

205 is it to early to wish i had a pitcher of margaritas to drink .

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:58 PM (FKrah)

206 Pours margarita through USB for Willow.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:00 PM (gC2IV)

207 It's never too early. I'm adding rum to my coffee now. It's the P.M. - right?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:00 PM (bjlHK)

208 is it to early to wish i had a pitcher of margaritas to drink .

Only if the liquor store hasn't opened yet.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 28, 2017 01:00 PM (IcT7t)

209 Its pm here so go for it

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 01:01 PM (aC6Sd)

210 200 the ghost flowers are lovely.But i'm in a mood and might tear their heads off.

so i'll leave gardening along today.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:53 PM (FKrah)

I enjoy gardening as long as it isn't too much work. Like the time we grew cherry tomatoes, and for the following two years they kept growing all by themselves from seeds cross-pollinated from the various types.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 01:01 PM (gjGvH)

211 205 how about a spiked hot cider? Seasonal!

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 01:01 PM (n6gcM)

212 ty Duke. if only!

Miley, i'm trying to keep the nervous breakdown at bay. Hopes uselessly that i am successful.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 01:02 PM (FKrah)

213 jim i looove gardening, but i have been jumping one crisis too another and the garden is always the first to suffer, it becomes pointless.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 01:03 PM (FKrah)

214 Tomatoes are the easiest, any flower bed with sun plant, water often and home grown are better than store bought .

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 01:03 PM (aC6Sd)

215 For example, both the Alt-Right and the Left are pretty much obsessed with race, while the American Right is not.
- KT

====

I don't think [Watson, Day, Molyneux] are racist, nor do they want to remove other races ... they want to maintain our culture and heritage, as opposed to the mass immigration (invasion) that is destroying Europe, for instance.
...
by: illiniwek

========

If I might offer a suggestion: I think for racists on the left and on the right, they consider the predominance of the race they side with, and marginalization of all others, as a primary moral concern.

For the rest of us, though we attach no moral significance to race, we might be forced to confront racists, and hence will have to frame things in *racial* terms. A black man might have to say "Jim crow laws discriminate against me as a black man and favor whites". And a white man might say "Holder's DoJ ignores racial crimes by blacks against whites". But neither the black man nor the white man is a racial supremacist simply because they are using racial terms.

I think the mass immigration issue must be framed in such a way. Michael Moore let the mask drop: the purpose of mass migration is to make whites a minority in order to disenfranchise them in the course of identity politics. It is a racist policy.

And given that the left has instigated this policy, pointing this out, and naming the targeted race is no more objectionable than a black man observing that the Klan are an organization of whites who are targeting blacks. The reason that race is being brought up is because of the racists who created the issue in the first place, not because of those who respond to the issue, and do not regard race as some sort of cause, but would rather be left alone by the racists.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 01:04 PM (/qEW2)

216 Nervous about what, willow?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:05 PM (bjlHK)

217 t i have been jumping one crisis too another and the garden is always the first to suffer, it becomes pointless.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 01:03 PM (FKrah)

That's the reason they became feral tomatoes. The birds would steal the occasional tomato and "seed" the garden, while I would get the rest. This went on for a total of three years before the last of the tomatoes died out. Oh well, too good to last.

Posted by: jim at October 28, 2017 01:06 PM (gjGvH)

218 The Hollywood Reporter declares Clooney/Damon film 'Suburbicon' dead on arrival.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 01:07 PM (oVJmc)

219 TIME OUT!!!!!

Posted by: Jim Harbaugh at October 28, 2017 01:07 PM (GsAUU)

220 Ugh. Had to deal with a NeverTrumper today. Thinks the FusionGPS dossier is God's revealed truth. Will not accept any facts regarding PDT that put him in even the slightest positive light. It really is a form of derangement.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

221 "Among the other new films, Suburbicon grossed a dismal $1 million on Friday from 2,045 theaters after getting slapped with a D- CinemaScore for a projected $3 million weekend, the worst nationwide launch of Clooney's directing career and the worst showing in decades for Matt Damon, who stars opposite Julianne Moore and Oscar Isaac. Suburbicon is looking at a ninth-place finish."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 01:08 PM (oVJmc)

222 207 It's never too early. I'm adding rum to my coffee now. It's the P.M. - right?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:00 PM (bjlHK)

It's five o'clock somewhere!

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

223 Will not accept any facts regarding PDT that put him in even the slightest positive light. It really is a form of derangement.

Posted by: Insomniac - He's Just a Poor Boy, From A Poor Family at October 28, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

It's total derangement. I laugh at CNN on the lobby TV every time I walk past it. People don't understand why I'm laughing.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:10 PM (bjlHK)

224 I've dealt with that too, Insom. You can't really change their mind, but this is fun.

Me: Is there anything that could come to light that would change your mind about Trump?

Them: No, never!

Me: Then you're not talking politics. You're talking religious dogma.

Also works on things like global warming, gun control, etc.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:13 PM (gC2IV)

225 It's total derangement. I laugh at CNN on the lobby TV every time I walk past it. People don't understand why I'm laughing.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:10 PM (bjlHK)

With CNN and MSNBC I can almost understand because they're basically paid shills for the DNC. But for someone not in that position it's beyond bizarre.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:13 PM (NWiLs)

226 Me: Then you're not talking politics. You're talking religious dogma.

Also works on things like global warming, gun control, etc.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:13 PM (gC2IV)

It is a form of dogma. And just as impenetrable with facts or reason.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:14 PM (NWiLs)

227 Steve and Cold Bear,

True, and a good thought. Conservatives are not obsessed with race, but when groups (say, radical Islam or BLM) that identify themselves with a religion or race target another group for violence, (say, non-believers or cops) it is hard not to bring race into the equation.

Hit a mule with a 2 x 4 long enough and you begin to make an impression.

Posted by: RM at October 28, 2017 01:15 PM (U3LtS)

228 LMAO, they just said that the regular West Virginia Mountaineers mascot was suspended because of DUI, so they had to go to a backup mascot.

West Virginia . . .

Posted by: logprof --go 'Stros! at October 28, 2017 01:17 PM (GsAUU)

229 Slap and I were talking about the left's "religion." I think it's more like a cult than a religion, because religious people have moral underpinnings that don't allow them to be led around by the nose. It enables us to call out a commie Pope who's full of shit and in the claws of Satan.

Lefties, on the other hand, must fall into lockstep with whatever new and crazy bugaboo they're told to support. Unthinking zombies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PInhXkfvs

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for meeee for MEEEEEE!!!11!! [ at October 28, 2017 01:18 PM (bjlHK)

230 226 I wonder what the motivator is for people to remain impervious to data?

Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 01:21 PM (qV5PD)

231 The motivator is the avoidance of cognitive dissonance, kallisto. They don't want to break the spell or they'll be lost. LOST, I tell ya!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:23 PM (bjlHK)

232 230 226 I wonder what the motivator is for people to remain impervious to data?
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 01:21 PM (qV5PD)

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Intellectual laziness.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:24 PM (gC2IV)

233 230 226 I wonder what the motivator is for people to remain impervious to data?
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 01:21 PM (qV5PD)

Aside from MUH PRINCIPULZ I really don't know what drives it. An overweening need to maintain some misguided feeling of superiority, maybe.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

234 195---i don't think it's the capitulation of the ruling class i think They are assisting the break down of americas traditions for their own goals.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:46 PM (FKrah)
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Some of them are simply brain-dead cowards.
But yeah, many know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 01:25 PM (0jtPF)

235 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for meeee for MEEEEEE!!!11!! [ at October 28, 2017 01:18 PM (bjlHK)

Four part harmony FTW!

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:26 PM (NWiLs)

236 Slap and I were talking about the left's "religion." I think it's more like a cult than a religion, because religious people have moral underpinnings that don't allow them to be led around by the nose. It enables us to call out a commie Pope who's full of shit and in the claws of Satan.
Lefties, on the other hand, must fall into lockstep with whatever new and crazy bugaboo they're told to support. Unthinking zombies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PInhXkfvs
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for meeee for MEEEEEE!!!11!! [ at October 28, 2017 01:18 PM (bjlHK)

Yup.....Like Jim Jones running it up both husband and wife cult members so they could be one with Gawd.

He was a door to door monkey salesman afterall.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 28, 2017 01:26 PM (nUkMr)

237 Derbyshire preferred the term "dissident right", to "alt-right".

In either case it is a response to "institutionalized right" have gone toward the progressive side, having bastardized the traditional right. Those that don't want to drift to the middle had an alternative ... an alternative right (not an alternative to traditional American right ... a RETURN to the true right, an alternative to the PC perverted right.

It just really bugs me he pretends to school us on the meaning being right in the phrase, but he actually changes the meaning by adding "an alternative TO the right" as if the old boyz like Bush/McCain own the word.

So "dissident right" probably works better. Still right, but dissenting from the Bush/McCain National Review leftward drift. "Traditional Right" might work as well ... founding fathers right, except those statues are being destroyed ... cuz racist. sigh

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 01:27 PM (/aIFg)

238 I know there are people, even at AoS, who think this stuff is trivial but I believe this is yuuuuuge, the most important issue of our time.

It is not the fact that a tiny handful of people (supposedly) feel "unsafe" and make anti-American demands that signifies. It is the capitulation of the ruling class to this tiny minority that matters.

People who dismiss this as a laughable extremism that cannot win remind me of prodigal heirs who think daddy's stash will never run out.

We are in deep trouble.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 12:43 PM (0jtPF)

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Hi, I sort of laughed this off upthread, but I only did this because of the organization involved. The Episcopal Church is a private organization, they are radical, so thinking anything can be done about them is like worrying about moderating the speech at a meeting of ThinkProgress, OFA, or ACORN meeting.

But, as for tearing down public monuments, trying to rewrite history, renaming public schools, etc. etc. I agree, this is unacceptable, and should be opposed wherever it crops up. I was just making a distinction in this one case. I wasn't trying to be flippant like BSG and his stupid "10 mile" rule.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 01:27 PM (/qEW2)

239 Kallisto, wouldn't you agree that life would be a lot simpler if you didn't have to think about complex subjects and apply facts to them?

Posted by: RI Red - 100% pure Sonobian Covfefe brewing at October 28, 2017 01:28 PM (3Xmk7)

240 >>>Four part harmony

Four, five - whatever it takes.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye at October 28, 2017 01:28 PM (bjlHK)

241 229 Slap and I were talking about the left's "religion." I think it's more like a cult than a religion, because religious people have moral underpinnings that don't allow them to be led around by the nose. It enables us to call out a commie Pope who's full of shit and in the claws of Satan.

Lefties, on the other hand, must fall into lockstep with whatever new and crazy bugaboo they're told to support. Unthinking zombies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5PInhXkfvs
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for meeee for MEEEEEE!!!11!! [ at October 28, 2017 01:18 PM (bjlHK)
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I think that's a very good distinction.
Traditional, transcendent religions have fixed, objective standards.
Leftists base everything on human power, not eternal Truth, and thus their "truths" can (and do) change by the minute, depending on the needs of the Party.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 01:29 PM (0jtPF)

242 is it to early to wish i had a pitcher of margaritas to drink .

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2017 12:58 PM (FKrah)

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I'm drinking cheap vodka and Sprite zero. Gross, but less calories. Do they make margarita mix with splenda instead of sugar?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 01:30 PM (/qEW2)

243 Do they make margarita mix with splenda instead of sugar?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 01:30 PM (/qEW2)

No, but YOU can.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye at October 28, 2017 01:32 PM (bjlHK)

244 Leftism acts exactly like religions.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 01:32 PM (aC6Sd)

245 The thing about lefties is that they have a huge disincentive to breaking the bubble they're in. They'd be the targets of all that hatred and contempt.

Do they value truth more than moral preening and the comfort of being in the bubble? No.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - So you think you can love me and leave me to die at October 28, 2017 01:35 PM (bjlHK)

246 >>>Leftism acts exactly like religions.

No, see my 229

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Oooohhh baby, can't do this to me baby at October 28, 2017 01:37 PM (bjlHK)

247 Now that the confederate monuments have been disposed of, let's move on to the next order of business.

Washington monument - Slaveholder. Gotta go.
Jefferson memorial - Same.
Lincoln monument - yeah, he fought the confederacy, but he was a republican so...gotta go.
Marine Corps monument - racist Marines planting racist flag on innocent Japanese mountain.
Vietnam Nam memorial - racist war monger killing innocent yellow people.
Korea - Same
WWII memorial - only the parts about fighting nazis can stay. All else gotta go.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:40 PM (gC2IV)

248 When I was at Ft. Hood during the early 1970's we lived in a civilian neighborhood made up mainly of company grade officers. On Halloween the grown-ups would go house to house with an empty glass Trick was to empty it before you got to the next one,

Posted by: Javems at October 28, 2017 01:40 PM (yOqwj)

249 Decent and deserved critique of the Prager U video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0jSgCXgmDo&t=192s

Posted by: Luly at October 28, 2017 01:41 PM (IiqEs)

250 232 230 226 I wonder what the motivator is for people to remain impervious to data?
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 01:21 PM (qV5PD)

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Intellectual laziness.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:24 PM (gC2IV)

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Aside from MUH PRINCIPULZ I really don't know what drives it. An overweening need to maintain some misguided feeling of superiority, maybe.
Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:24 PM (NWiLs)
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Intellectual laziness may be a factor with some.
But I think the need to feel superior or "good" is key.

Homo creatura justificanda est.
Man is a creature that must be justified. We are moral creatures and cannot escape that, no matter how much we reject traditional religion and customs.

So, if we reject old-fashioned standards, we justify ourselves by clinging to chic opinion.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 28, 2017 01:41 PM (0jtPF)

251 So nobody is clamoring for further details. OK, fair enough.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 01:41 PM (sdi6R)

252 As I'm fond of pointing out, Leftist 'morality' is written for political expedience, and is primarily intended to control their enemies, not themselves.

Exemptions from Leftist morality for Leftists in good standing are a norm, not an exception.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 01:43 PM (oVJmc)

253 So nobody is clamoring for further details. OK, fair enough.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 01:41 PM (sdi6R)

FEED ME!!!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - clamoring for further details at October 28, 2017 01:43 PM (bjlHK)

254 Just popping in to remind everyone that we've wasted enough time and taxpayer money on investigating Trump's financial and political ties to Russia. It's time to move on.

Posted by: Your Moral and Intellectual Superiors at October 28, 2017 01:45 PM (4bjXi)

255 252 As I'm fond of pointing out, Leftist 'morality' is written for political expedience, and is primarily intended to control their enemies, not themselves.

Exemptions from Leftist morality for Leftists in good standing are a norm, not an exception.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 28, 2017 01:43 PM (oVJmc)
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Exactly! As I pointed out in "Who, Whom," the moral question is never WHAT. There is no such thing as a good or evil act. That is bourgeois and reactionary thinking!
The only question is WHO is doing it and to WHOM.

Posted by: Vladimir Lenin at October 28, 2017 01:47 PM (0jtPF)

256 Ok, back from getting eggs and other stuff from the farm stand.
I saw that willow is starting a go fund me for weasel.....you do know he'll just spend it all on guns and ammo, right?

Posted by: lin-duh falling at October 28, 2017 01:49 PM (kufk0)

257 I wonder what the motivator is for people to remain impervious to data?
Posted by: kallisto at October 28, 2017 01:21 PM (qV5PD)

The motivator is the avoidance of cognitive dissonance, kallisto. They don't want to break the spell or they'll be lost. LOST, I tell ya!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 01:23 PM (bjlHK)

Intellectual laziness.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 28, 2017 01:24 PM (gC2IV)

Aside from MUH PRINCIPULZ I really don't know what drives it. An overweening need to maintain some misguided feeling of superiority, maybe.
Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 28, 2017 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

All of the above.

As others are talking about this question bringing race into the conversation (as some always do), the problem many of us are encountering is this notion that YOU (meaning the one with whom we find ourselves arguing/debating) have decided that I am the problem. You decided to focus all your attention outside yourself, and declare me to be wrong.

When I try to defend my position, that makes me rayciss/homophobe, etc. and all the rest.

We can't have a discussion. We can only ever fight.

I'm not interested in fighting with these people. I'm just not.

And as is true in our personal lives, if we find ourselves only ever fighting with someone, it's time to cut them out of our lives. Divorce. Period. We're done.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 01:50 PM (Pz4pT)

258 And, BTW, this is why you really cannot accuse the Left of either hypocrisy or 'double standards.'
They have one standard only: what helps the Party is good, what challenges or hurts it is bad.

Posted by: Vladimir Lenin at October 28, 2017 01:50 PM (0jtPF)

259 Can't have the monkeys running the zoo, now can we?

Posted by: Bob McNair at October 28, 2017 01:54 PM (gC2IV)

260 People may ignore facts for reasons similar to why they stay in cults. Cults have certain advantages - a supportive group of like minded people, stability, certainty. If people have too much invested in a way of thinking, they'll resist coming out of it.

I also think that liberals tend to have an emotional attachment to their story, so they don't want to give it up. To give an analogy, if a doting mother has evidence her son is a sociopath who commits crimes, she may lie to herself and think "no, he is a good boy". Similarly, if anything goes against the liberal narrative (ex. groping refugee, illegal raping a 2 year old), they will just tune it out.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 02:05 PM (/qEW2)

261 168 We're supposed to get over two inches of rain tomorrow and 35 mph winds. What the hell?
Posted by: Weasel

A day ending in -y around here. Well, except for the rain. Lots of dust in the wind too.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 02:08 PM (hyuyC)

262 People may ignore facts for reasons similar to why they stay in cults. Cults have certain advantages - a supportive group of like minded people, stability, certainty. If people have too much invested in a way of thinking, they'll resist coming out of it.

I also think that liberals tend to have an emotional attachment to their story, so they don't want to give it up. To give an analogy, if a doting mother has evidence her son is a sociopath who commits crimes, she may lie to herself and think "no, he is a good boy". Similarly, if anything goes against the liberal narrative (ex. groping refugee, illegal raping a 2 year old), they will just tune it out.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 02:05 PM (/qEW2)

That's a general truth that expands into pretty much any and all realm of human thinking.

There are technical terms for it, but basically if you are operating as if the world fits into your fixed perspective, you are bound to be miserable, because the world simply refuses to do so.

It probably doesn't matter which angle one is coming from, what is required is a healthy respect for truth, wherever you find it, from whichever direction it comes.

Most of us, one way or another, struggle with this. Some clearly more than others (i.e. the political left).

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 02:09 PM (Pz4pT)

263 And, BTW, this is why you really cannot accuse the Left of either hypocrisy or 'double standards.'
They have one standard only: what helps the Party is good, what challenges or hurts it is bad.

Posted by: Vladimir Lenin at October 28, 2017 01:50 PM (0jtPF)

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And once that secret is out of the bag, we are free to ignore all your attempts at laying the guilt trip on us, or speaking to us using moral language. Thank you for freeing us of this burden, Vlad.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 02:12 PM (/qEW2)

264 I'm sitting in my car, early for a party because the start time has been changed and I didnt see the text.

Does anyone here have recipe for homemade moss killer for lawns?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at October 28, 2017 02:12 PM (Si1jj)

265 260 Steve and Cold Bear

We all have our own perception filters. It takes effort to see beyond the filters. In science you can test ideas and reliably reproduce sound findings of fact.

In other realms of human existence, not so much. Plenty of murky stuff around motives and actions.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 02:13 PM (hyuyC)

266 Look, inmates running the asylum is not racist. It's an old saying. Kinda like too many chiefs, not enough Indians. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a Halloween party to attend. My grandchildren are dressing up as spooks.

Posted by: Bob McNair at October 28, 2017 02:13 PM (gC2IV)

267 >>>My grandchildren are dressing up as spooks.

CIA?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 02:20 PM (bjlHK)

268 Look, inmates running the asylum is not racist. It's an old saying. Kinda like too many chiefs, not enough Indians. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a Halloween party to attend. My grandchildren are dressing up as spooks.
Posted by: Bob McNair at October 28, 2017 02:13 PM (gC2IV)

Oh Bob. You f**ked up, you trusted them.

They didn't eat your first, but you were on the menu.

I can't think of any group of humans who less deserve a benefit of the doubt than the people who run that godforsaken league.

String him up!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2017 02:21 PM (Pz4pT)

269 For the last 2-3 weeks, I had been noticing shortness of breath, wheezing, and coughing, and a lack of energy. I had had asthma several years ago, but it eventually cleared up and the symptoms went away. Now it seemed like they had come back.

I saw my primary physician on the 18th. She examined me and referred me to get a chest x-ray. I went in to work as usual on Friday the 20th, then left to go get the x-ray.

They told me that there was a lot of fluid surrounding my right lung and I needed to go to the emergency room right now to get it drained.

So I went, and they installed a chest tube and drained part of the fluid. I felt immediate relief, but they said there was more fluid to be drained and they couldn't do it all at once. I was admitted to the hospital.

They drained more fluid the next day, and kept me hooked up to the chest tube as the remaining fluid slowly drained. Nobody could tell me when I would be released from the hospital.

I became worried about my cat Reggie, who I had left on Friday morning with just enough food and water to last until the evening when I got home. On Saturday afternoon, I called my vet's office and explained the situation. They sent an employee to my hospital room where I gave her a house key and instructed her to put out more food and water to last a few days, since I didn't know when I was getting out.

By Tuesday they had drained enough fluid to take another CAT scan, where it was determined that a tumor in my right lung was the source of the fluid. Since cancer cells were detected in the fluid, I was diagnosed with stage IV lung cancer.

They did more tests, including an MRI of my brain to see if the cancer had spread there. It hasn't... yet. They also did a biopsy to learn more about the DNA makeup of the tumor to determine future treatment, and finally replaced the chest tube with a PleurX catheter that can be drained at home by a nurse.

I was released from the hospital and got home around 7:00 Friday night. The site where the catheter was installed was very sore this morning but is better now. The visiting nurse will be out on Monday or Tuesday and I have an appointment with the oncologist on 11/10 to begin outpatient treatment.

I'm feeling much better right now than I did a week ago, so there's that. And Reggie survived, and seemed glad to see me last night.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

270 rickl

OMG. Prayers ascending at All Ahead Flank.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 02:36 PM (hyuyC)

271 Exactly! As I pointed out in "Who, Whom," the moral question is never WHAT. There is no such thing as a good or evil act. That is bourgeois and reactionary thinking!
The only question is WHO is doing it and to WHOM.

Posted by: Vladimir Lenin at October 28, 2017 01:47 PM (0jtPF)

========

I noticed for years now that liberals always fixate on morally irrelevant things. Not "how did each party act" but "what were the races involved". I thought it was evidence of some sort of cognitive disability. Now I see it was a deliberate plan.

Thank you sir.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 02:37 PM (/qEW2)

272 rickl

I posted a bit of this in the active thread. I hope you do not mind.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 02:41 PM (hyuyC)

273 >>>Can't have the monkeys running the zoo, now can we?<<<

I love that all of these women of Hollywood are burning the fucking place to the ground. Here's a clue to all of our Hollywood honeys, - you're shivving your grubstake.

Let it burn, burn, burn!

Posted by: Fritz at October 28, 2017 02:45 PM (Kwhm/)

274 That's horrible, rickl. I don't know what to say.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 28, 2017 02:45 PM (/qEW2)

275 I'm feeling much better right now than I did a week
ago, so there's that. And Reggie survived, and seemed glad to see me
last night.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:28 PM (sdi6R)
Ah, what a shitty thing to happen, rickl. You must be sideways with all this right now. And the kindness of your vet got me all teared up. For you, I am hoping that maybe because of so much fluid, they're erring on the side of caution and the ultimate diagnosis may be a tad better. In the meanwhile, you go straight to the top of the prayer list. {{{{{{rickl}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2017 02:45 PM (14URa)

276 rickl, that's a remarkable lucid post for that news. prayers

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2017 02:45 PM (9TU00)

277 They did more tests, including an MRI of my brain to see if the cancer had spread there. It hasn't... yet. They also did a biopsy to learn more about the DNA makeup of the tumor to determine future treatment, and finally replaced the chest tube with a PleurX catheter that can be drained at home by a nurse.

I was released from the hospital and got home around 7:00 Friday night. The site where the catheter was installed was very sore this morning but is better now. The visiting nurse will be out on Monday or Tuesday and I have an appointment with the oncologist on 11/10 to begin outpatient treatment.

I'm feeling much better right now than I did a week ago, so there's that. And Reggie survived, and seemed glad to see me last night.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

Oh crap, rickl! If it is just one tumor, then it should be operable, right?
I'm not the praying kind, but I will hold you in my thoughts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 28, 2017 02:47 PM (O848g)

278 272 rickl

I posted a bit of this in the active thread. I hope you do not mind.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 02:41 PM (hyuyC)

Thanks. I didn't want to hijack a new thread.

I kind of coyly alluded last night that I had an interesting story to tell, but nobody bit.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:48 PM (sdi6R)

279 I'm feeling much better right now than I did a week ago, so there's that. And Reggie survived, and seemed glad to see me last night.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

Oh, rickl...I am so sorry to hear this! Praying hard for you and hope you get some good treatment and good news to follow.

And that's a great vet you have!

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 02:50 PM (Enq6K)

280 278 rickl

When you say you have an interesting story to tell, well, the outer Solar System is the limit. Anything we can do?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 02:50 PM (hyuyC)

281 ricky prayers to you.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 02:53 PM (aC6Sd)

282 Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:48 PM (sdi6R)
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rickl - I just saw the news upstairs. Om my goodness, you have no idea the prayers that are going to be said for you. Bluebell might even mail you a pie.

So much XOXO

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 02:53 PM (lwiT4)

283 I became worried about my cat Reggie, who I had left on Friday morning
with just enough food and water to last until the evening when I got
home. On Saturday afternoon, I called my vet's office and explained the
situation. They sent an employee to my hospital room where I gave her a
house key and instructed her to put out more food and water to last a
few days, since I didn't know when I was getting out.
====================

What a good vet you have.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 02:56 PM (lwiT4)

284 rickl, I'm so sorry to hear your news, but glad you are feeling better than you have been. Grammie's right - you have no idea of the prayers that will be said for you. And if I could figure out how to shove a pie through my computer for you, I surely would.

Do you have people that will help you? If anyone offers anything, please take them up on it.

I'm glad you shared that with us, even though it must have been hard to type. Prayers for everything going up starting now.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2017 02:58 PM (UoSKV)

285 283
What a good vet you have.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 02:56 PM (lwiT4)

Yes, I do. I spent about $3000 this year on my elderly cat Kira, who died in August at age 17. So I thought I could call in a favor.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:01 PM (sdi6R)

286 "As I'm fond of pointing out, Leftist 'morality' is written for political expedience, and is primarily intended to control their enemies, not themselves.
Exemptions from Leftist morality for Leftists in good standing are a norm, not an exception.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

yeah ... there is no "good book" the leftist "religion" relies on ... it is ever changing, and in my view, it is engineered by our enemies (foreign and domestic). PC is always "progressives on the march". It is a march toward centralized control over our liberty ... gotta fence the sheep in, keep us from wandering, make it easier to shear us. The elite use the wool, eat the mutton, no fences for them.

The term "religion" applies to the left only in a broader sense in that Christianity is not really 'religion'. Faith comes be hearing the Word of God ... and thanks to the printing press, it comes from reading on our own. Self reliance, teaching the children well -- which in the 60's the commies also figured out meant, control/enslave the minds of the younger idyllic generation and they control the future. They infiltrated the schools and media, moved on to running crime and local governments.

Christians are dynamic ... they read and mature toward deeper understanding. In that sense they are not a static religion defined by certain phrases or customs or peer pressure. To me "religion" is too much "institutional dogma" instead of liberty. Individuals are Christians.

Alt-right (dissident right) is breaking off from centralized control of the term "right". "They" gave us two parties (left or right) and those were the only choices ... (uniparty). Alt-right is traditional founders' right, as opposed to the commie march through our institutions and "gradualism".

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 03:01 PM (/aIFg)

287 Yes, I do. I spent about $3000 this year on my
elderly cat Kira, who died in August at age 17. So I thought I could
call in a favor.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:01 PM (sdi6R)
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I remember the day you lost Kira. I felt so bad for you. How did I miss the fact that you got a new fur-friend?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 03:03 PM (lwiT4)

288 Rickl, We will keep you in our prayers. Please keep us informed.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at October 28, 2017 03:10 PM (V+03K)

289 I kind of coyly alluded last night that I had an interesting story to tell, but nobody bit.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:48 PM (sdi6R)

I figured you banged Kate Upton and had to tell someone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2017 03:11 PM (wYseH)

290 284
Do you have people that will help you? If anyone offers anything, please take them up on it.

I'm glad you shared that with us, even though it must have been hard to type. Prayers for everything going up starting now.
Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2017 02:58 PM (UoSKV)

I don't really have any friends or relatives, but I will accept any offers of help if I see them.

The doctor who broke the news said that it must be a shock to me. I replied, truthfully, that it was more disappointing than shocking. I had assumed that it was an infection of some kind.

I can think of much worse news than a cancer diagnosis at age 59, when I have enjoyed mostly excellent health until now.

- a six year old child with leukemia

- a 22 year old soldier at the peak of his mental and physical powers, who is blinded by an IED

- a 70 year old with a sound body who has Alzheimer's, and can look forward to another 20 years of life as his brain turns to mashed potatoes

- an office worker at the World Trade Center in perfect health, going into work on an ordinary day, who is suddenly forced to choose between asphyxiation and jumping out a window

Honestly, my situation is much better than any of those alternatives.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:13 PM (sdi6R)

291 Honestly, my situation is much better than any of those alternatives.
Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:13 PM (sdi6R)
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rick, all you say is true, and God bless you for it. But you are something that none of those hypothetical people are, and that is - one of us.

I'm pretty sure you're not in the DC area, are you?

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2017 03:16 PM (UoSKV)

292 Lotta morons giving you love over on the Ace thread, rickl. In case you haven't popped in there. And, as has been said, please stay close to the warm bosom of the horde as you confront this. Besides the snark and the pron links, there's nothing the horde does better than helping one another through the shit life throws at us.

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2017 03:17 PM (14URa)

293 Honestly, my situation is much better than any of those alternatives.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:13 PM (sdi6R)
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I know you probably are swirling with questions and information and uncertainty right now, but I want you to know that it doesn't come across that way. You radiate a sense of calm and contentment that is enviable. You're quite a guy, rickl.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 03:20 PM (lwiT4)

294 I don't really have any friends or relatives, but I will accept any offers of help if I see them.

======

rickl, you have a great attitude about this that can only serve to help you.

Also, please let either someone you trust here or one of the COBs know what area you're in. There may be morons in your vicinity that can offer help and would be happy to do so.

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 03:20 PM (Enq6K)

295 Its hard not exactly knowing where other horde members are, though clues pop up occasionally

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 03:22 PM (aC6Sd)

296 rickl - if you're near SE WI, I can come over and not cook for you.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 03:22 PM (lwiT4)

297 rickl - if you're near SE WI, I can come over and not cook for you.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 03:22 PM (lwiT4)
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pssssst - rickl - take her up on it.

Posted by: The Rev at October 28, 2017 03:23 PM (UoSKV)

298 LOL! grammie you are too funny!

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 03:23 PM (Enq6K)

299 Oy.

Rickl - may the Lord bless you with health & healing. May he guide your doctors and nurses with wisdom and kindness.

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at October 28, 2017 03:23 PM (AoK0a)

300 295 Its hard not exactly knowing where other horde members are, though clues pop up occasionally

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 03:22 PM (aC6Sd)

Yes true...but I meant more than a state or general vicinity. Offline of course.

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 03:24 PM (Enq6K)

301 For some reason I think he's a county over from me

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2017 03:28 PM (aC6Sd)

302 293
You radiate a sense of calm and contentment that is enviable.
Posted by: grammie winger at October 28, 2017 03:20 PM (lwiT4)

I *am* kind of surprising myself. I think I surprised the doctor, too.

My life has been very good up till now for the most part, and I can't complain in the scheme of things.

As the oncologist pointed out, there have been some significant advances in treatment just in the past year or so. The longer I can stay alive, the better the chances for still more advances and even revolutionary breakthroughs.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:29 PM (sdi6R)

303 rickl, if you feel comfortable doing so, I would love for you to email me at the cookbook email. It's moroncookbook at gmail.

If you don't want to, of course I understand.

Posted by: The Rev at October 28, 2017 03:31 PM (UoSKV)

304 Well shoot, the Rev isn't working on the cookbook! That was me.

Although maybe I can hit him up to buy one for grammie.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2017 03:31 PM (UoSKV)

305 The longer I can stay alive, the better the chances for still more advances and even revolutionary breakthroughs.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:29 PM (sdi6R)

No offense, but I would have preferred a story about you banging Kate Upton.

My email address is cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com

I would be happy to be the conduit for you to get in touch with others.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 28, 2017 03:34 PM (wYseH)

306 Rickl, gentle hugs and many many prayers for you.

Also, maybe you eat all the meats.
Starve the cancer.
They say some tumors live on sugar.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 28, 2017 03:34 PM (hMwEB)

307 306 Rickl, gentle hugs and many many prayers for you.

Also, maybe you eat all the meats.
Starve the cancer.
They say some tumors live on sugar.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 28, 2017 03:34 PM (hMwEB)

One thing I noticed is that hospital food is very carb-heavy.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:40 PM (sdi6R)

308 One thing I noticed is that hospital food is very carb-heavy.
Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:40 PM (sdi6R)

It's a plot to keep people sick and in the hospital!!!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 28, 2017 03:43 PM (hMwEB)

309 One thing I noticed is that hospital food is very carb-heavy.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:40 PM (sdi6R)

Keeps everyone full cheaply.

IF you get to order your own food, just keep circling proteins.

Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2017 03:45 PM (Enq6K)

310 94 I don't really have any friends or relatives, but I will accept any offers of help if I see them.

Rickl, maybe contact the American Cancer Society...I think they provide rides and support for those going through treatment. Your doctor may also have info on organizations that can help & suport you. You are obviously greatly cared for here, but some supportive networks IRL would be incredibly beneficial for you.

Posted by: Prof Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 28, 2017 03:45 PM (IG9gl)

311 One thing I noticed is that hospital food is very carb-heavy.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:40 PM (sdi6R)
I guess they figure if it's going through your mouth instead of a tube, they're ahead of the game.

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2017 03:46 PM (14URa)

312 rickl, my sister-in-law is a cancer survivor - she had it in her 20s (she's in her early 40s now). Her doctor has her on some kind of cancer-avoidance diet - pretty much avoiding grains and sugar, carbs in general, heavy on meat and veggies and good fats.

I'll ask her for details.

Posted by: bluebell at October 28, 2017 03:46 PM (UoSKV)

313 Re-posting from the Ace thread. Because Cheri makes a good point:

I have had 2 coworkers diagnosed with end stage
cancer in the last few years. They are both alive and doing well.
Cancer research and treatments have come an Incredibly long way.

Posted by: Cheri at October 28, 2017 03:45 PM (mWags)

Posted by: Peaches at October 28, 2017 03:48 PM (14URa)

314 Rickl, congrats on your new cat Reggie! I didn't realize you had gotten a new little love...but miss one thread around here and ya miss a lot.

Posted by: Prof Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 28, 2017 03:54 PM (IG9gl)

315 314 Rickl, congrats on your new cat Reggie! I didn't realize you had gotten a new little love...but miss one thread around here and ya miss a lot.
Posted by: Prof Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 28, 2017 03:54 PM (IG9gl)

Actually, Reggie is 10 years old. I adopted him in 2007 after Kira's brother Leo died suddenly at age 7.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 03:56 PM (sdi6R)

316

I was released from the hospital and got home around 7:00 Friday
night. The site where the catheter was installed was very sore this
morning but is better now. The visiting nurse will be out on Monday or
Tuesday and I have an appointment with the oncologist on 11/10 to begin
outpatient treatment.

I'm feeling much better right now than I did a week ago, so there's
that. And Reggie survived, and seemed glad to see me last night.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

OMG Rick, I just came back to this thread to see if you'd ever responded. What a fucking week. Of course you are added to the top of my prayer list.Dear Lord, please watch over our rickl, give him strength and faith to face the ordeal before him, and healing if it's You will. Amen.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 04:13 PM (bjlHK)

317 wow rickl ... glad you get to come home, lots of things to deal with with all that news. Good thing they have better treatments now.

My sister went through some chemo ... hubby had to learn to deal with a catheter hook up (or a port actually) ... hope yours is more simple, but in any case, deal with it with hope for brighter days. Glad you found the problem ... keep us informed. Nurses are good ... hope they have you all lined up for proper care.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 28, 2017 04:15 PM (/aIFg)

318 Rick- I'm real sorry to hear your news. Wish I could do more than offer my best wishes but you have them.

Stay strong.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2017 04:21 PM (/tuJf)

319 Hey, rickl. Much strength to you, and good things.

Posted by: m at October 28, 2017 04:21 PM (1Xpas)

320 Rickl--I just read about your situation and I am praying for you starting right now. Please let the Horde know what you need and how best to provide support.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at October 28, 2017 04:22 PM (TdMsT)

321 If you're anywhere in NoVA, rickl, I would be happy to help with errands.

Or, you know, sponge baths and things like that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 04:30 PM (bjlHK)

322 321 If you're anywhere in NoVA, rickl, I would be happy to help with errands.

Or, you know, sponge baths and things like that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 04:30 PM (bjlHK)

*makes Groucho Marx eyes*

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 04:33 PM (sdi6R)

323 I think I'd be really good at sponge baths, even though I have no formal training.

Certification is overrated for some stuff. If I had a license, I'd lose it

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 04:36 PM (bjlHK)

324 OK you two. Get a room.

I knew that was your plan all along, your Grace.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 28, 2017 04:44 PM (hyuyC)

325 One thing I have to say is that there were some stunningly gorgeous women at the hospital. Doctors, nurses, radiation techs, and so on.

They were much hotter than movie stars and fashion models, by a mile. Not even close.

Posted by: rickl at October 28, 2017 04:57 PM (sdi6R)

326 I may be a one trick pony, Salty, but I'm very good at it.

Oh, that reminds me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KlWqDf44pw

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at October 28, 2017 04:57 PM (bjlHK)

327 Prayers for you rickl.
May God grant you oeacen strength and healing.

Posted by: tbodie at October 28, 2017 05:00 PM (iGewq)

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