Trump's "Threat" About NBC's Broadcast License May Be "Dangerous," But It's Rooted in the Public Interest Requirement for Broadcast Licenses

David Harsanyi criticizes Trump's tweet about NBC's "#FakeNews" and whether or not it should have a broadcast license:

With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 11, 2017

Harsanyi argues that it's a dangerous road to go down, threatening to deny someone's free speech rights, even if they are putting out "#FakeNews," as NBC allegedly did here.

But there's an aspect of this he entirely omits, which makes me wonder if he even knows about it. (This is so important that I imagine he'd mention if, if only to explain why it doesn't matter, if he knew about it.)

The broadcast spectrum is not infinite. It is a scarce resource. So who gets to broadcast on the TV bands? Why can't I just put up a tower and start broadcasting Ace TV on the bandwidth reserved for NBC TV?

The answer is that the government grants -- which they don't have to do -- the right to broadcast on a specific electromagnetic band and also specifically forbids others from broadcasting on that band, so that you don't interfere with the license-holder's signal. (This is why, I think, you are only allowed certain wattages of broadcast power -- you may broadcast on a certain frequency in one area, but only up to 50,000 watts or whatever so that someone 100 miles away (or whatever) can also broadcast on that frequency, without you both interfering with each other).

The government grant of bandwidth broadcast rights is not unconditional: Because this is not just a matter of free speech, as publishing a newspaper is (your newspaper doesn't stop me from publishing a newspaper), but also a matter of allocating a scare resource (broadcast bandwidth) to a large number of people who would like that bandwidth, but cannot all be accommodated, the government imposes requirements that the license-holder "serve the public interest" by, among other things, improving democratic governance.

The public trustee model has given rise to a distinct genre of First Amendment jurisprudence. Unlike newspapers and magazines, broadcasters have affirmative statutory and regulatory obligations to serve the public in specific ways. Despite the philosophical complications and political tensions that this arrangement entails, the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the public trustee basis of broadcast regulation as constitutional.(4)
The reason that broadcasters have substantial, but not complete, First Amendment protection, said the Court, is the scarcity of broadcasting frequencies and the government licensing that is necessary:

When there are substantially more individuals who want to broadcast than there are frequencies to allocate, it is idle to posit an unabridgeable First Amendment right to broadcast comparable to the right of every individual to speak, write or publish....A license permits broadcasting, but the licensee has no constitutional right to be the one who holds the license or to monopolize a radio frequency to the exclusion of his fellow citizens.(5)
Therefore, the Government may require a licensee "to share his frequency with others and to conduct himself as a proxy or fiduciary with obligations to present those views and voices which are representative of his community and which would otherwise, by necessity, be barred from the airwaves."

The 1934 Communications Act dismissed the idea that everyone had free speech rights to broadcast in any spectrum they liked, but did so by declaring that those licensed to broadcast must do so while serving the public interest:

The 1934 Act, which continues to be the charter for broadcast television, ratified a fundamental compromise by adopting two related provisions: a ban on "common carrier" regulation (sought by broadcasters) and a general requirement that broadcast licensees operate in the "public interest, convenience and necessity" (supported by Congress and various civic, educational and religious groups).(1) The phrase was given no particular definition; some considered it necessary in order for the government's licensing powers to be considered constitutional.(2)
By prohibiting a common carriage regime, Congress essentially prohibited non-licensees from having free speech rights in the broadcast medium except as authorized by "public interest" requirements. Only government-sanctioned licensees would, as a rule, have free speech rights in broadcasting. While the limited number of licensees was in one respect dictated by the physics of the electromagnetic spectrum (only so many stations could operate without chaos resulting), the "scarcity" was also dictated by the government licensing scheme, which banned a regime of common carriage. The scarcity of access to the airwaves is, in this sense, a creature of government licensure.
The government's exclusionary licensing arrangement was justified by requiring that broadcasters act as public fiduciaries. Their primary duty would be to serve the "public interest, convenience and necessity," as expressed in both the 1927 and 1934 Acts. The Federal Radio Commission that was created by the 1927 Act described the "public trustee" model in this manner:
[Despite the fact that] the conscience and judgment of a station's management are necessarily personal....the station itself must be operated as if owned by the public....It is as if people of a community should own a station and turn it over to the best man in sight with this injunction: "Manage this station in our interest..." The standing of every station is determined by that conception.(3)
To give substance to the public interest standard, Congress has from time to time enacted its own requirements for what constitutes the public interest in broadcasting. But Congress also gave the FCC broad discretion to formulate and revise the meaning of broadcasters' public interest obligations as circumstances changed.

You know those community and minority affairs shows you see broacast at like 5am on Sundays? Like the ones Tim Meadows parodied on SNL (when it was actually funny)?

Yeah, those are FCC mandated, as being part of the "public interest."

The FCC determined that whether a licensee was acting in the public interest depended on whether or not it was serving these needs:

1. Opportunity for local self-expression.
2. The development and use of local talent.
3. Programs for children.
4. Religious programs.
5. Educational programs.
6. Public affairs programs.
7. Editorialization by licensees.
8. Political broadcasts.
9. Agricultural programs.
10. News programs.
11. Weather and market services.
12. Sports programs.
13. Service to minority groups.
14. Entertainment programming.The FCC noted that the categories were not intended as "a rigid mold or fixed formula for station operations," but rather were "indicia of the types and areas of service" that constitute the public obligations of broadcasters, as evaluated at license renewal time.

I'm not going to look this up right now, but I've always understood the entire institution of a nightly newscast on TV channels was a mandate to satisfy the FCC's public interest requirement.

Note that there was a lot of deregulation of the airwaves in the 80s and then again in 1996. Most of the evaluation process as to whether or not a station was serving the public interest was dispensed with:

The FCC's vision of the public interest standard and how to achieve diverse programming -- underwent a significant transformation in the 1980s. As new media industries arose and a new set of FCC Commissioners took office, the FCC made a major policy shift by adopting a marketplace approach to public interest goals. In essence, the FCC held that competition would adequately serve public needs, and that federally mandated obligations were both too vague to be enforced properly and too threatening of broadcasters' First Amendment rights.(17) Many citizen groups argued that the new policy was tantamount to abandoning the public interest mandate entirely.
Pursuant to its marketplace approach, the FCC embarked upon a sweeping program of deregulation by eliminating a number of long-standing rules designed to promote program diversity, localism, and compliance with public interest standards. These rules included requirements to maintain program logs, limit advertising time, air minimum amounts of public affairs programming, and formally ascertain community needs.(1 The license renewal process -- historically, the time at which a station's public interest performance is formally evaluated -- was shortened and made virtually automatic through a so-called "postcard renewal" process.(19) The FCC also abolished the Fairness Doctrine, which had long functioned as the centerpiece of the public interest standard.(20)
In 1996, Congress expanded the deregulatory approach of the 1980s with its enactment of the Telecommunications Act.(21) Among other things, the Act extended the length of broadcast licenses from five years to eight years, and instituted new license renewal procedures that made it more difficult for competitors to compete for an existing broadcast license. These changes affected the ability of citizens and would-be license applicants to critique (at license renewal time) a broadcaster's implementation of public interest obligations. The 1996 Act also lifted limits on the number of stations that a single company could own, a rule that historically had been used to promote greater diversity in programming.

But while the "public interest" requirement has been loosened a lot, it is still part of the requirement for allocating a bandwidth to one particular company when many other competitors would want it themselves.

Broadcasters don't have a right to this spectrum. They apply for exclusive use of part of the spectrum, with the government granting them this spectrum subject to its oversight and, deregulation aside, still "serving the public interest."

Many people have proposed auctioning the broadcast spectrum rather than simply giving it to the networks free. Why should the government give away a valuable commodity to cronies and Legacy Broadcasters instead of letting/making companies pay for the rights?

Also, by the way: the entire rationale for the 1980s deregulation is that market forces alone would result in the diversity of opinion and service of the community that the older, more-detailed rules tried to push.

But has that actually happened? Do you see a diversity of opinion on the networks? Or is it all just the party line? Do you see that all groups within the local broadcast monopoly have their news needs satisfied, or just White Gentry Liberals?

It should be noted that in the 1930s, the "public interest" rule was used to "push propaganda stations" off the air.

I agree with Harsanyi's general worry about the government getting involved in a station's editorial decision-making. (Which, by the way, no version of the various communictions acts have permitted; the acts have dictated broad rules, but courts have found that while broadcasters do not have full free speech rights, they still have significant parts of free speech rights, and that includes most questions of editorial control.)

Yet it must still be remembered:

1. Per the law, you have the right to speak, but you do not have the right to have exclusive use of a scare spectrum of broadcast bandwidth. You either pay for this (as cell phone carriers do) or you "serve the public interest" to get a free grant of the bandwidth.

2. Even post-deregulation, the idea was still that "market forces" would achieve what the previous laws' more persnickety rules intended to achieve. If that has not actually come to pass -- and it has not -- the rules can be changed.

3. There is precedent for pushing "propaganda stations" off the air.

Is all of this dangerous? Yes it is. One man's propaganda is another man's truth, and vice versa. And there is no doubt that liberals attempt to use these same "public interest" requirements to deny licenses to Fox TV and get Rush Limbaugh taken off the air.

But the left is already doing these things. Why can't the right call the left's propaganda for what it is and demand that they, too, "serve the public interest," the whole public's, and not just White Gentry Liberals' interests?

I don't think I actually want to go down this road, but I'm not sure I object to the networks being reminded that their broadcast licenses are granted by the government -- but they don't have to be.

Exit Question: The networks have abandoned all pretense of being nonpartisan in their reportage. If they go even further, and become even more overt shills for the Democrat Party -- are we all ready to collectively say "Yes, giving the networks a scarce commodity for free in order to act as a federally-subsidized branch of the DNC is in the public interest, and a good use of a scarce, federally-regulated resource?"

Posted by: Ace at 06:24 PM

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1 Cleveland Indians: Beat the Evil Empire tonight! Defeat the Yankees! Misery to all Yankees fans!

Posted by: Go Tribe: End the Evil Empire at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (OWiRZ)

2 st

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 06:26 PM (tlC78)

3 Good piece, Ace. Now I'm not sure whether I need to twist my hankie about this or not.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 11, 2017 06:27 PM (Mouru)

4 Not first, always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 06:27 PM (tlC78)

5 Next on Ace TV, topless shelf installation: Do you really need that trampoline?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (tbOMB)

6 I don't know, this whole thing just struck me as standard stray voltage Trump tweet.

Posted by: John Marston at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (SkuXa)

7 Trump is going to get them to back down. Last week he said he wanted equal time for Republicans.

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (tlC78)

8 I think half the things that Trump says he says just to see how many heads explode.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (O5Q3r)

9 Harsanyi argues that it's a dangerous road to go down, threatening to deny someone's free speech rights, even if they are putting out "#FakeNews," as NBC allegedly did here.

===

Refuse to bake a fag a wedding cake and get back to me , Harsanyi.

The new rules they made?

I don't think that they will like them .

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (2wRtc)

10 Remember not to fight last years battles with last year's weapons.

Posted by: Max Power at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (q177U)

11

Next on ACE TV: 'Ettes, pudding cups and the free and plenty of it clause - who's really getting plenty of it?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (T/KY7)

12 A vast chunk of the media is owned by a half a dozen companies. Auctioning bandwith would just be an exercise in making it seem like things will change while keeping the status quo because no one can break the stalemate that megacompanies choose to keep. Take the hammers to them and start breaking off chunks I say.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (Ks7qc)

13 Pull their broadcast license.
No cussing and no sexual innuendo.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (mcI77)

14 Exit Question Answer = He'll Yes.

F. U. War

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (lYDmo)

15 Next on ACE TV: The Spooky Scary Horror Hour featuring Spiders, Spiders and more Spiders.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:32 PM (Ks7qc)

16 Exit Question: The networks have abandoned all pretense of being nonpartisan in their reportage. If they go even further, and become even more overt shills for the Democrat Party -- are we all ready to collectively say "Yes, giving the networks a scarce commodity for free in order to act as a federally-subsidized branch of the DNC is in the public interest, and a good use of a scarce, federally-regulated resource?"
-Ace

I think they and we are already doing this Ace.

The fun thing about Trump has been the dropping of masks. The scary thing is that with all the masks being dropped we all have to deal with the realities.

Scary or uncomfortable does not mean this is not something that must be done.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 06:32 PM (rb1zT)

17 One other point: some (e.g. pop 'n' fresh) attempt to "understand" in their willfully obtuse way. They latch on the word "network" and then gleefully point out that Trump is a big moron because there are no networks that need a broadcast license. Which is true in a limited way.

You do not need a license to deliver content to your affiliates. But, all the big networks own flagship stations in the major markets. I think they each own like 6-8 stations. And, each of those stations has to have a broadcast license.

Posted by: James Comey at October 11, 2017 06:32 PM (FUu/Z)

18 Also of interest and on-topic: That Net Neutrality push to treat the internet as a public utility? That campaign ad talking about stopping the sale of baby body parts being pushed on Twitter?

Twitter reversed, and is saying it is looking into revising its policies.

Nice hell-hole of single-minded maniacal screechers you go there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (tbOMB)

19 /sock

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (FUu/Z)

20 1. Opportunity for local self-expression.

2. The development and use of local talent.

3. Programs for children.

4. Religious programs.

5. Educational programs.

6. Public affairs programs.

7. Editorialization by licensees.

8. Political broadcasts.

9. Agricultural programs.

10. News programs.

11. Weather and market services.

12. Sports programs.

13. Service to minority groups.

14. Entertainment programming.

My All-Midget Channel concept checks all the boxes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (Mouru)

21 Ace TV has a nice ring. I'd watch it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (PY9jH)

22 Ace: Path to 9-11.

the fucking donks on the Hill threatened ABC.

precedent, projection, payback

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (RDd1I)

23 This was Willard:

192 @grammie the event is Q Commons ( qcommons.com ) and it is October 26.

The way my church is participating is (and I think this is how it is supposed to work) that you have the three national speakers on simulcast and three locals live.

I hav not read the site to see if there is an individual stream.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (jHrzU)

24 WHY IS THIS GUY FIGHTING THE CULTURE WAR????

WHY WONT HE ROLL OVER AND PISS HIMSELF LIKE A GOOD REPUBLICAN???

Doesn't he understand that this is our CASHCOW?

Posted by: Ben Shapiro, Jonah Goldberg and Iowahawk at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (2wRtc)

25 I remember when Ted Kennedy wanted Clinton to lean on the FCC to make Rupert Murdoch sell The Boston Herald because Howie Carr kept calling him "Fat Boy".

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (O5Q3r)

26 6
I don't know, this whole thing just struck me as standard stray voltage Trump tweet.

Posted by: John Marston at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (SkuXa)

Like the obama wiretapping?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (tbOMB)

27 Ace TV, featuring the commentary of Masturbatin' Pete, Charlie Brown's Dildo, et al.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (PY9jH)

28 Imagine how cool an AoS pirate radio station would be.

Posted by: Weasel at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (Sfs6o)

29 Why can't I just put up a tower and start broadcasting Ace TV?

Hell. I miss the podcast.

I might even go back to cable for Ace TV.

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (48QDY)

30 Ace TV has a nice ring. I'd watch it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (PY9jH)

Yes please!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 06:35 PM (kuFbc)

31 Nice post Ace, very informative.
Thanks

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at October 11, 2017 06:35 PM (dab45)

32 A banner should be mandated hourly.

NBC Begins Our Broadcast Day By Alerting Our Viewers
That We Are Marxist Tools And We Rarely Report Real News.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:35 PM (mcI77)

33 Ace TV?

Wouldn't start broadcasting until noon
There'd be a GAINZZ show, a Vape show, a shopping show where everything would arrive in #2weeks but its all crap made up on the spot by commenters

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 11, 2017 06:35 PM (z2W2E)

34 The educational/informational (E/I) requirement puts on a lot of crappy programming in crappy dead-end hours like early Sunday morning that absolutely no one watches, and certainly no one is 'enlightened' by.

Get rid of that stupid requirement.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:35 PM (oVJmc)

35 Ace, FYI, Andrea Mitchell used Weinstein to go after Clarence Thomas, and had Megyn Kelly on to cheerlead.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (PY9jH)

36 Next on ACE TV: Ace's Movie Reviews, cut down from the original 12 hours to only 8. ACE TV we listen to your input.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (Ks7qc)

37 Also I don't think Trump was seriously saying that he was going to pull a license It was a joke that was also a brushback.

The fake news stuff keeps the media spun up.

Trumps got this.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (jHrzU)

38 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/195911.php

just sayin

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (RDd1I)

39 Why can't I just put up a tower and start broadcasting Ace TV?
==

Let's start with shelves. Then we can talk towers.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (2wRtc)

40 Not to mention, how does bandwidth work in the digital/cable age? Are we even still talking about the same things anymore?

With the internet, we seem to still be making a fantasy case. We give the blessing and trappings of authority to these people. We should probably get those back and make them earn it again (if they even did to begin with.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (rb1zT)

41

Soft-core busty lesbian shows are educational, right?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (T/KY7)

42 When is Aaaaaandrea Mitchell going to finally fossilize?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (Tyii7)

43 Broadcast requirements is why your home Wi-Fi sucks. You are limited to ISM band and 1-Watt of transmitting power. Cut NBC license (which was part of the point of HD/Digital TV transition by the way), and you can free up their broadcast channel for other technologies.

Posted by: Leland at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (4y/OO)

44 The 1934 Communications Act dismissed the idea that everyone had free speech rights to broadcast in any spectrum they liked, but did so by declaring that those licensed to broadcast must do so while serving the public interest

====

You can't use FDR against Libs, Ace - it's just not done!

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (z2W2E)

45 ah remember 2006 ... "Congressional Democrats Threaten To Yank ABC's Broadcast License If They Air Unedited 9/11 Film"

So...donks...I don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (RDd1I)

46 Let's start with shelves. Then we can talk towers.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (2wRtc)

Mort, you magnificent bastid . . .

Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (14URa)

47
I can make Ace and the Horde stars! Come up to my room, and we'll talk.

Bring lotion.

Posted by: Uncle Harvey at October 11, 2017 06:38 PM (8O3HH)

48 Let's start with shelves. Then we can talk towers.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (2wRtc)
---------
I have one word for you people. Swinging shelves.

Posted by: Weasel at October 11, 2017 06:38 PM (Sfs6o)

49 29
Why can't I just put up a tower and start broadcasting Ace TV?

Hell. I miss the podcast.

I might even go back to cable for Ace TV.

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (48QDY)

I'd nut in his potted plants, so he could be all legit like Hollywood.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:38 PM (tbOMB)

50 5 Next on Ace TV, topless shelf installation: Do you really need that trampoline?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (tbOMB)

++++

Ace, topless on a trampoline, installing shelving.

Who was that comedian who use to come up with the most outrageous images and then declare, "That's not right!"

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 11, 2017 06:38 PM (FUu/Z)

51 I assume this would be for NBC OO stations?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

52 Next on Ace TV:

Shelves, the white whale of carpentry.

In our B story:
Women who love furry men who love shelves.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (rb1zT)

53 In the modern day, shouldn't we revisit the rule that says you can show skinamax on one channel but not the other? Pbs used to broadcast nudity and cussing back in the day, but no longer.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (a9S4D)

54 24 WHY IS THIS GUY FIGHTING THE CULTURE WAR????

WHY WONT HE ROLL OVER AND PISS HIMSELF LIKE A GOOD REPUBLICAN???

Doesn't he understand that this is our CASHCOW?

******

it's all quite unseemly...why I just saw the man on OAN right now advocating...ACTUALLY FUCKING ADVOCATING...for his tax cut thing.

I say...

[monocle falls into early evening cocktail]

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (RDd1I)

55 We're gonna need a lot more lawyers.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (m9X4Y)

56 NBC O & O stations, that is.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

57 This is what an honest to goodness conservative culture warrior looks like.

Trump > Reagan

And I loved Reagan

Posted by: Kreplach at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (wAUZ0)

58 Next on ACT TV: How to be 29 years old and loving it.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (Ks7qc)

59 >> Soft-core busty lesbian shows are educational,
>> right?

Soft core is for pussies. If you're gonna do it, do it right, hard core all the way.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (8O3HH)

60 42
When is Aaaaaandrea Mitchell going to finally fossilize?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 11, 2017 06:37 PM (Tyii7)

Fossilize?

Petrify? or

Pickle?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:40 PM (tbOMB)

61 Ace TV

Ewoks on trampolines!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:40 PM (QvC3K)

62
Do the networks even report on democrats anymore?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 06:40 PM (lKyWE)

63
Stations operate, or are supposed to, "in the public interest, convenience and necessity" as the FCC states.

Knowingly pumping out propaganda to deceive the public is a direct violation. Pull the licenses on the O&Os.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 11, 2017 06:41 PM (mbhDw)

64
Just imagine Andrea having to blow Alan Greenspan's fossilized dick.

Wonder if she spits....into a potted plant.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:41 PM (8O3HH)

65 Ace, FYI, Andrea Mitchell used Weinstein to go after Clarence Thomas, and had Megyn Kelly on to cheerlead.

Get a good look at her, Megyn. There's your future.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 06:41 PM (O5Q3r)

66 Libs have been threatening Fox, Rush, and Drudge with regulation for decades. DECADES.

But hey Iowahawks delicate sensibilities have been bruised or something.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:41 PM (jHrzU)

67 57 This is what an honest to goodness conservative culture warrior looks like.

Trump > Reagan

And I loved Reagan
Posted by: Kreplach at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (wAUZ0)

Reagan did not really have to fight a culture war per se (although one could make the case that he should have declared one openly.) At the time, all he had to do was brush off the dirt of liberal BS and the underlying, traditional culture was revealed.

The rot goes a heck of a lot deeper now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 06:41 PM (rb1zT)

68 Kreplach, I've been saying for a while that the debate amo NH conservatives will be whether to say "Reagan/Trump", or "Trump and Reagan".

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 11, 2017 06:42 PM (8I5rE)

69 The powers that be refuse to normalize Trump's presidency and this is the crazy part: Trump agrees with their decision and actively aids and abets them. When he retweeted the Hillary gif last month I just shook my head in amazement. Honey Badger Boss Mode.

Posted by: Max Power at October 11, 2017 06:43 PM (q177U)

70 WELL, WITH THIS TWEET, TRUMP IS FINISHED!!!

Doomed. Finis. Kaput. Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:43 PM (oVJmc)

71 Remember when Buchanan accurately noted that there was a culture war at the 92 Republican convention?

The number of pearls clutched that night is incalculable.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:44 PM (jHrzU)

72 WELL, WITH THIS TWEET, TRUMP IS FINISHED!!!
Doomed. Finis. Kaput. Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!
===

He's -20 in the Nielsens.

Early night.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:44 PM (2wRtc)

73
Much, much shorter ace: if it's got "license" in the name, then, um, maybe it's not actually about a constitutional right.

Well, ace doesn't go at it that way. But it's an efficient path to understanding here.

If the mere concept - and it is one that everyone knows will not under any circumstances be pursued - ofbringing in merit and public interest etc. to the licensing of broadcast spectrum is disturbing (and it is, in a very abstract dorm study room sense), then Harsanyi and everyone echoing this should have long ago been apoplectic about infringements of the 2nd amendment (just to pick one obvious example).

So a throwaway line in a tweet is cause for chin-stroking concern ..... but decades of actual, massive, systematic and lawless infringement of explicit constitutional rights is no big deal, I guess? OK. It's always nice when the seriousness level of contemporary punditry is shown up front.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 11, 2017 06:44 PM (QDnY+)

74 Ace TV: Back to back episodes of the same episode!

Posted by: dantesed at October 11, 2017 06:45 PM (88xKn)

75 No to subsidies to any one. You pay for your freq band. Sink or swim, bitches.

Posted by: Fritz at October 11, 2017 06:45 PM (3ubcI)

76 Ace TV would jump from one subject to another and always end up talking about guns and boobs....with a flame war every now and then thrown in.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 06:45 PM (Enq6K)

77 Ace TV: Where random episodes get shown twice in a row!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:46 PM (oVJmc)

78 burn them down to the ground. total warfare.

Posted by: CW at October 11, 2017 06:46 PM (W/x1K)

79 Next on ACE TV: A Round table on Methodist vs. Lutheran JELL-O molds *STOMP* MORE GAINNNZZZZZ!

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:47 PM (Ks7qc)

80 @76 that would make it just like here then

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:47 PM (jHrzU)

81 Will AceTV have Thai Tranny Hooker Tuesdays?

Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:47 PM (14URa)

82 WELL, WITH THIS TWEET, TRUMP IS FINISHED!!!

Doomed. Finis. Kaput. Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:43 PM (oVJmc)

He's been Drumpfvehrnugened?

Posted by: German Word Invertor at October 11, 2017 06:47 PM (sf2BM)

83 Boot them to internet!! Let someone with money pay for the over-the-air bandwidth. Let them sink-or-swim with internet advertisers and subscription service!

OMG how sweet that will be for NBC/ABC (CBS seems to be dipping their toes in it by themselves) to be forced to do it.

Posted by: Scott_T at October 11, 2017 06:47 PM (NmR1a)

84 Greatly implied (but not codified) in that agreement between the government and broadcasters is that the public be accurately informed in order to serve the public good. In other words, the broadcasters have to be based in reality.

That hasn't happened in a long time particularly with the larger networks' news departments. Hence Fake News.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (tRaq7)

85 Ace TV: Sponsored by Sonobi

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

86 Ace TV: Back to back episodes of the same episode!
===

Every segment would begin with a large NOOD splash screen.

And the only commercial would be for Sonobi.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (2wRtc)

87 Ace TV would show Benny Hill

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (QvC3K)

88 Conservatives have to still boycott NBC. If their ratings drop to just a small segment of the population then NBC would be precluded from using their ratings as some sort of proof they are serving the public that pays for the infrastructure of NBC's broadband.

About the only way they serve the public now is the emergency alert warning system.

Posted by: The Hemlock at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (qEhxI)

89 Every time I see someone or other heading off to "rehab for sex addicts" or whatever nonsense they call it, I wonder how anyone can refrain from screaming THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!

The men who do that don't do it because they have a "disease" or because they're "addicted", not any more than any other man has ever been.

THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY LIKE IT. AND THEY WILL ALWAYS LIKE IT.

Unlike men who live decent lives, these are nasty fuckers who have decided "I'm gonna do whatever the hell I feel like doing, and I don't give a damn." Now you can hook him up with a shock collar and zap him every time he does something, and pretty quickly he'll learn not to do that as long as someone with the zap button is looking. But the INSTANT they are not looking, and he thinks he can get away with it, he will be right back at the same old shit, because that is what he LOVES to do more than anything in the world.

and all the idiot psychologists and counselors in the world can't change that. Of course, even they know that - their only job is to make it look like they're doing something so some rich person who got in trouble will pay them to pretend they're doing their phoney baloney jobs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (k1TUh)

90 OT, but broadcast related.

From anon at 4chan:

"I'm an employee that works at KVVU (Fox) channel 5 in Las Vegas. They
really really wanted to get an interview with Jesus Campos. I handle all
the scheduling and contacting people to set up interviews. I made a few
phone calls trying to contact Campos and just an hour ago I got a call
from some FBI guy telling me to drop the issue and to quit trying to
contact Campos. I should have recorded the call to drop here, it was
creepy. If they call back I will be sure to record.

I don't know what this means, but I thought you guys should know. KVVU is being blocked from interviewing Campos."

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (aT+Bx)

91 But Mr. Of Spades:

Jonah Goldberg tells me the Constitution gives NBC the right. So I'm good.

Posted by: meh at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (MBds8)

92 Interesting analysis, Ace. Thanks for writing this.

Me, I'm in war mode. We're in a culture war and I want to win it. And finally we have someone in power who is willing to swing the big stick on my behalf instead of hitting me over the head with it.
Or shoving it up my ass.

So good on Trump, FIDO.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (xJa6I)

93
Don't miss this very special episode of Kaboom on ACE TV

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 06:49 PM (lKyWE)

94 JINX BUY ME A COKE

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:49 PM (2wRtc)

95 I don't have the words to say what I'd like. But revisiting the whole licensing scheme sounds good to me. deregulate and breakup the big four. IDK sounds good to me. Why should all four have the same points of view?

Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 06:49 PM (0OmEj)

96 Then theres the infamous incident when AceTVs premier program cancelled itself accidentally.

Posted by: filbert at October 11, 2017 06:49 PM (1Ytwf)

97 Auction the spectrum. Public interest requirement is hogwash and unenforceable. The Whatever Act of 1934 is not the same as the Constitution, sometimes things really do change with progress.

Does over the air broadcast matter anymore except with respect to the "must carry" laws on cable?

In any case, DO NOT EVER get licensing mixed up with messaging. Slippery slopes will always turn that against us, plus it's wrong per se.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 06:50 PM (gIRsn)

98 This episode of The Morning News with JJ Sefton was brought to you by Sonobi.

We don't know what it is. But it's really good. And good for you.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:50 PM (2wRtc)

99 Exit Question: The networks have abandoned all pretense of being nonpartisan in their reportage. If they go even further, and become even more overt shills for the Democrat Party -- are we all ready to collectively say "Yes, giving the networks a scarce commodity for free in order to act as a federally-subsidized branch of the DNC is in the public interest, and a good use of a scarce, federally-regulated resource?"

++++

I suppose they could make it part of the license application: Are you a righty or lefty org? And then do some kind of balancing thing in every market where the licenses get divided up.

But, then those wacky libertarians and assorted alt-right and alt-left types would want a piece of the pie, so unworkable. Unless they figure out a way to squeeze way more broadcasters into the available spectrums.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 11, 2017 06:50 PM (pvjTE)

100 >>>Conservatives have to still boycott NBC.

Forced to boycott it, because NBC got pulled from AT&T due to a fees dispute. No sweat to me, but my wife is going through withdrawal.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 11, 2017 06:50 PM (ppaKI)

101 Trump could just suggest changing the laws that make it so hard to sue news orgs for smears.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (oVJmc)

102 >>>Or shoving it up my ass.

:::scoots a couple seats further away:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (RrhD2)

103 Ace TV - Limerick House w/Muldoon will be scheduled for the 10pm Eastern time slot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (QvC3K)

104 Do you see diversity?

YES.

Rush Limbaugh exists thanks to deregulation of the airwaves and doing away with the fairness doctrine.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (LWu6U)

105 Here at Ace TV, we pride ourselves on presenting dissenting opinions. Here with an opposing viewpoint is Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro,Vermont.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (O5Q3r)

106 59 >> Soft-core busty lesbian shows are educational,
>> right?

Soft core is for pussies. If you're gonna do it, do it right, hard core all the way.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:39 PM (8O3HH)

Well it's lesbian porn. That's most soft core anyway, unless the double-headed dildo or strap on comes out.

Then all bets are off!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (xJa6I)

107 I don't know what this means, but I thought you guys should know. KVVU is being blocked from interviewing Campos."
Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (aT+Bx)

It means that guy's going to be looking for a new job as soon as this gets back to management.

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at October 11, 2017 06:52 PM (dab45)

108 >> Will AceTV have Thai Tranny Hooker Tuesdays?

Tuesdays are taken. That's Titty Twosday (busty lesbo night).

It's Sunday. Ladyboy Lazy Sundays

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:52 PM (8O3HH)

109
Does over the air broadcast matter anymore except with respect to the "must carry" laws on cable?

People are dropping cable every month.

Broadcast is more popular now than it's been in years because of the digital changeover.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:52 PM (oVJmc)

110 Next on ACE TV: The Pet hour featuring Pixy the hamster.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:52 PM (Ks7qc)

111 Ace TV: Tonight at 11 o'clock news; interviews with the guests at the Barrel.

Posted by: dantesed at October 11, 2017 06:52 PM (88xKn)

112 >>>Here with an opposing viewpoint is Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro,Vermont:

*Screeching, inarticulate noises*

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro,Vermont at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (ppaKI)

113 NBC says you're a smarty mcsmartypants, ace.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (hMwEB)

114 Harsanyi isn't all that great when it comes to technical-type stuff.

He did a column about manufacturing a while back that was so full of bullshit as to be unreadable. It was about that time I began to dismiss pretty much anything he criticizes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (tRaq7)

115 This episode of The Morning News with JJ Sefton was brought to you by Sonobi.

We don't know what it is. But it's really good. And good for you.
--

Next on ACE TV:

Cutting Edge Political Analysis with Charlie Brown's Dildo.

Brought to you by Lace Wigs. Because everyone will eventually need a Lace Wig.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (aT+Bx)

116 "96 Then theres the infamous incident when AceTVs premier program cancelled itself accidentally."

And then unintentionally banned most of their subscribers for trying to look up older episodes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (k1TUh)

117 It means that guy's going to be looking for a new job as soon as this gets back to management.
Posted by: rand

Yeah, he (or she) was pretty specific about his/her identity. Not smart.

Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (14URa)

118 71 Remember when Buchanan accurately noted that there was a culture war at the 92 Republican convention?

The number of pearls clutched that night is incalculable.
Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:44 PM (jHrzU)

And the fact remains, that in spite of GOPee pearl clutching, the Bush poll numbers actually *rebounded* after Pat's speech.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (ujg0T)

119 I do like the idea of ACE TV. What would the line up look like? Would Ace we awake for the morning show?

Posted by: Big V at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (MVE/7)

120 "I'm an employee that works at KVVU (Fox) channel 5 in Las Vegas. They
really really wanted to get an interview with Jesus Campos. I handle all
the scheduling and contacting people to set up interviews. I made a few
phone calls trying to contact Campos and just an hour ago I got a call
from some FBI guy telling me to drop the issue and to quit trying to
contact Campos. I should have recorded the call to drop here, it was
creepy. If they call back I will be sure to record.

I don't know what this means, but I thought you guys should know. KVVU is being blocked from interviewing Campos."

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (aT+Bx)

Well, IF that's true....big IF....this is THE strangest mass murder investigation...evah.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (Enq6K)

121 >>>From anon at 4chan

Will there be updates on 4chan from the scrawny poindexter charged with threatening to kill blacks at Howard? Maybe he gets to send a letter from his cell?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 11, 2017 06:54 PM (RrhD2)

122 Ace TV The Book Show at 9am Eastern on Sundays will have pictures of fabulous libraries, book plugs, and discussions of how to cook elk while dressed to the nines.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:54 PM (QvC3K)

123 I'll watch the Vic We Have No Party roundup every morning.

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 06:54 PM (kUotE)

124 66 Libs have been threatening Fox, Rush, and Drudge with regulation for decades. DECADES.

But hey Iowahawks delicate sensibilities have been bruised or something.
Posted by: blaster

******

oh right. Didn't turbin try to get the pentagon to stop the Rush show from being on military stations back during teh fake fake-soldier bruh hahaha?

so...my ballz...how does they taste, donks?

turnabout...even a hint of it, is beyond the pale I guess.

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 06:54 PM (RDd1I)

125 I agree with Harsanyi's general worry about the government getting involved in a station's editorial decision-making.
***
Remember when the Democrats forced Sinclair Networks to not air the Stolen Honor documentary?

Or to censor the Path to 9/11?

I do.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (Z8FFX)

126 ACE TV: Brought to you by Valu-Rite Vodka. If you're spending more than $2 for your hookers and your vodka, you're not drinking Valu-Rite!

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (Ks7qc)

127 Can we have a test pattern with an Indian (woo-woo) on it?

Posted by: Weasel at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (Sfs6o)

128 >> Well it's lesbian porn. That's most soft core anyway

You're talking to an expert on the subject, I'll have you know. :sniff:

Soft core lesbo is just making out and maybe nekkid. Maybe some boobie play.

The cunning linguistics under high lighting counts as hard core. And if it ain't got that, it's just a tease.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (8O3HH)

129 Tune in every night at 10 pm, for the Hector Power Hour!

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (ppaKI)

130 Late at night upon the access stair,
I saw a maintenance man named Campos, who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I think he soon will go away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (k1TUh)

131 I thought The Barrel was nabbed by the Abuse Clinic for their show.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:55 PM (QvC3K)

132 and there's more talk about arson in napa.

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 06:56 PM (RDd1I)

133 This Trump fellow. I think I'm starting to like him.

Posted by: RI Red at October 11, 2017 06:56 PM (wkVYq)

134 Well, IF that's true....big IF....this is THE strangest mass murder investigation...evah.
---

Here is the latest 4chan out there no evidence speculation:

"Arms deal setup by CIA/FBI with Paddock as the seller. Campos was buyer
for isis. Deal went south and Campos, possibly knocks out paddock, then
carried out the massacre to make a statement. Campos shoots paddock then
himself in the leg. Only scenario that makes sense"

Interesting anecdote: When Trump went to meet Vegas victims, he did not meet Campo. Why? He was a Hero.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:56 PM (aT+Bx)

135 Could you imagine the news babes on ACE TV? Every chair is a leg chair and tan lines mandatory.

Posted by: Bosk at October 11, 2017 06:56 PM (fjMEv)

136 AND NOW A WORD FROM BEN ROTHLISBERGER

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 06:56 PM (kUotE)

137 Well, you could always take the approach that there are 1000s of cable and video over the internet channels of every genre and just say fuck it. No more broadcast TV.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 11, 2017 06:57 PM (1YEOU)

138 Put another way, do you see diversity in newspapers?

Only on the edges. A few midwest papers, the WSJ on everything except immigration, and a few token right leaners on the op ed pages.

I say to let networks fly their freak flags and at least we know they are biased. And let PDT criticize

Related - on reddit, about once a week there is a front page item comparing PDT to Stalin. Seriously. Today's item compared "fake news" to enemy of the people...
Exactly the same. Well, except the Gulags. Or the purges. Or the genocide. Or the theft of public wealth. Or the invasions. Or...

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 11, 2017 06:57 PM (LWu6U)

139 if it's got "license" in the name, then, um, maybe it's not actually about a constitutional right.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 11, 2017 06:44 PM (QDnY+)

Yep. Try to refuse to blow in a breathalyzer. See where that gets ya.

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:57 PM (48QDY)

140 Has this movie been released yet?

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (/KbE7)

141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (iVOAv)

142 To offer rebuttal - Al Sharpton in NYC and Hank Johnson in Guam.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (QvC3K)

143 "Arms deal setup by CIA/FBI with Paddock as the seller. Campos was buyer for isis. Deal went south and Campos, possibly knocks out paddock, then carried out the massacre to make a statement. Campos shoots paddock then
himself in the leg. Only scenario that makes sense"

I think speculating that Kang and Kodos did it makes more sense than that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (k1TUh)

144 112 *Screeching, inarticulate noises*

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro,Vermont at October 11, 2017 06:53 PM (ppaKI)

Damn it. Why does the moderator always let that bitch interrupt the small patch of brown liquid while it's making its point?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (5sQ8t)

145 FBI opens Weinstein investigation.

Breitbart, via 4chan.

/he's supposedly in Qatar. Do we have an extradition treaty?

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (aT+Bx)

146 Speaking of Campos---went to Las Vegas Journal Review last night and the headline was MGM questions the new timeline.

If MGM fights that at the very least more camera foot will come out.

Posted by: The Hemlock at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (qEhxI)

147 Here is the latest 4chan out there no evidence speculation:

"Arms deal setup by CIA/FBI with Paddock as the seller. Campos was buyer for isis. Deal went south and Campos, possibly knocks out paddock, then
carried out the massacre to make a statement. Campos shoots paddock then himself in the leg. Only scenario that makes sense"

Interesting anecdote: When Trump went to meet Vegas victims, he did not meet Campo. Why? He was a Hero.

Do we know he didn't?

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (Enq6K)

148 What about Krang and Shredder trying to get the TerrorDome working again?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (QvC3K)

149 Ace TV: Saturday night is movie review night.

Posted by: dantesed at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (88xKn)

150 Camera *footage*

Posted by: The Hemlock at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (qEhxI)

151 Next on ACE TV: AMC classics re-shot featuring Volcanoes.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (Ks7qc)

152 141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (0OmEj)

153

Brought to you by Vitameatavegamin

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (IqV8l)

154 or how about this article from 2009:

Fox's Volley With Obama Intensifying

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html

"We're going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent," said Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, in a telephone interview on Sunday. [...] we don't need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave."

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (Z8FFX)

155 >>"Arms deal setup by CIA/FBI with Paddock as the seller. Campos was buyer
for isis. Deal went south and Campos, possibly knocks out paddock, then
carried out the massacre to make a statement. Campos shoots paddock then
himself in the leg. Only scenario that makes sense"

If that is the only scenario that makes sense to you you should probably be prevented from handling sharp objects.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (/tuJf)

156 FBI opens Weinstein investigation.

Breitbart, via 4chan.

Based on a James Comey memo that completely clears him, no doubt.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (oVJmc)

157 Ace TV will reserve Saturday morning at 4am Eastern to show the Star Wars Ewoks Christmas Special.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (QvC3K)

158 @90 Campos is the guy that claims to have warned the hotel that the Las Vegas shooter was sketchy.

Posted by: Leland at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (4y/OO)

159 Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 07:00 PM (/tuJf)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:01 PM (iVOAv)

160 "Arms deal setup by CIA/FBI with Paddock as the seller. Campos was buyer
for isis. Deal went south and Campos, possibly knocks out paddock, then
carried out the massacre to make a statement. Campos shoots paddock
then

himself in the leg. Only scenario that makes sense"

I think speculating that Kang and Kodos did it makes more sense than that.
--
And, at this point ,Kang and Kodos makes more sense than what the FBI is saying.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 07:01 PM (aT+Bx)

161 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn.
___
I've never even seen a naked woman on the internet...as Allah as my witness.

Posted by: barack Obama at October 11, 2017 07:01 PM (Z8FFX)

162 My muddah made me watch Ace TV once.

Once.

Posted by: Danny Vermin at October 11, 2017 07:02 PM (q+aa6)

163 Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 06:59 PM (0OmEj)

Does that mean you are identifying yourself as one?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:02 PM (iVOAv)

164 152 141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

I can't deny not having seen any, but I like MST3K better.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (k1TUh)

165 Has anybody explained yet how a guest was able to just hop on a freight elevator without anyone asking questions?

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (/KbE7)

166 Ace TV would sign off with a Kaboom commercial, followed by uncontrolled sobbing

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (z2W2E)

167 Re: Exit question - I think NBC in particular understands how exposed they are after the DNC and Podesta leaks. There's proof now and too many people have already seen it.

Trump could easily make the case they are part of the DNC, and as such, put their license in jeopardy.

Thank God we have someone who fights, even if it gets a bit crazy at times!!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (W+vEI)

168 What is even more important, in fact it is the MOST important part of the idea behind the licensing of broadcast facilities, is that the bandwidth is OWNED BY THE PEOPLE.

The government acts as a mediator between us and those who wish to partake of OUR bandwidth.

Does anyone here feel that your bandwidth is being used wisely?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (4ErVI)

169
Look at those morons that's the way you do it

You make your comment on the ACE TV

That ain't workin that's the way you do it

Money for nothing and the chicks are free

Now that ain't workin that's the way ya do it

Lemme tell ya them morons ain't dumb

Maybe get a blister on your little finger

Maybe get a blister on your thumb

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (lKyWE)

170 25 years of experience in the radio business, so here goes:

The "Public Interest" part of the broadcaster's license has nothing to do with news stories or what the broadcaster chooses or doesn't choose to report. It has to do with with making public service announcements, maintaining your public files, making sure maintain your power and frequency to licensed specifications, charging politicians the lowest spot rate for their advertising, and who you are hiring.

Out of those, the 3 that will get you fucked are the last 3. The FCC doesn't give a shit what you broadcast (as long as it isn't indecent), but they give big shits about those last 3. I was at a station that got a "conditional renewal" of 3 years instead of 5 because the FCC said the station didn't have enough minority employees. When we asked how many should we have, the answer was, "we cant tell you, but you don't have enough".

The other biggie is charging candidates lowest spot rate. Coca Cola spends $120K with you a year, they get a better deal than Bob's XXX Videos that spends $5000 over the same year. Well guess what, Thelma Politician decides she is going to spend $1500 with you and she gets the same ad rate that Coke gets, and she gets priority over Coke and Bob's in ad placement.

As for the technical violations, those are pretty much straightforward. If you are bleeding over onto another frequency, you are interfering with another licensee. Too much power? Interfering with someone. Operating at an antenna height more than licensed? Interference. There are also a lot of other frequencies that most people don't know about. Frequencies that deal with transmitting the programming from the studio to the antenna which is usually in an area not near the studio. The frequencies that allow live broadcast transmission from out in a remote area back to the station. Operate on a frequency you don't "own", you interfere with someone elses.

How people think the FCC operates and how it actually operates are two entirely different things.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:04 PM (1JnAL)

171 There sure is a stank in the air about this investigation...dats for sure

Posted by: E.T. at October 11, 2017 07:04 PM (P1GJy)

172 50 Mitchell Hedberg?

Posted by: Glenn John at October 11, 2017 07:04 PM (LilNs)

173 ACE TV presents a 65-part series: Shelving and You.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:04 PM (oVJmc)

174 Could you imagine the news babes on ACE TV? Every chair is a leg chair and tan lines mandatory.

Bustiers and stompy boots would be mandatory.

The Empress could be the News Director...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:05 PM (tRaq7)

175 My guess is that there is evidence that Weinstein brought a girl across state lines. An underage girl.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 11, 2017 07:05 PM (8I5rE)

176
Next on Ace TV: Paltrow talks pudding dips to make balls softer.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2017 07:05 PM (r+sAi)

177 Has anybody explained yet how a guest was able to just hop on a freight elevator without anyone asking questions?
--

Via Laura Loomer, supposedly Paddocks girlfriend was an employee of Mandalay Bay, and had an ID that could access the elevator.

Sounds far fetched for me, but then again, "Hero Guard Stops Mass Shooting" became "Hero Guard Shot Before Mass Shooting."

So... who knows.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 07:05 PM (aT+Bx)

178 Next up on AceTV:

9mm vs .45ACP. A penetrating look at the question.
(Note to viewers, after the staggering repair costs for the walls of the studio the last time we covered this, we have banned live fire demonstrations for this telecast.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 07:06 PM (rb1zT)

179 All I saw was Ace TV.... I would die!! Seriously... DIE!! From happiness!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at October 11, 2017 07:06 PM (CNHr1)

180 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

I can't deny not having seen any, but I like MST3K better.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (k1TUh)

I haven't watched pron since I left the Army some 30 years, and then it was mostly because the barracks rats had it playing most of the time.

And I am currently binge watching all the MSTs I can get a hold of. Wee bit obsessed with it.

Will not, however, look into the new version that's out there. Some things you can't duplicate.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 11, 2017 07:06 PM (sGSvK)

181 If the FBI wanted to quell the chaos...they would release what was on the note in Paddock's room, and let the local police talk about it.

If they can't because there is an ongoing investigation...well...then we know that note was complaining about one of the following:

Trump
Crusaders
White Supremacy

and the NEED to release the note so that we know what we are up against.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 07:06 PM (Z8FFX)

182 Porn almost destroyed my marriage. Haven't watched once in five years. One of the best decisions of my life.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at October 11, 2017 07:06 PM (2pVFZ)

183 as a federally-subsidized branch of the DNC is in the public interest,
and a good use of a scarce, federally-regulated resource?

With the exception of "what not to do" examples and the occasional prat-fall nothing the Democrats do is in the public interest.

Posted by: DaveA at October 11, 2017 07:07 PM (FhXTo)

184 *taps chin*

Each newsette on Ace TV would have to have a specific theme for their attire. Can't all be rave stompy boot goth lolita type...

*much pondering to be done*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:07 PM (QvC3K)

185 This situation calls for wild speculation.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:07 PM (oVJmc)

186 >> Paltrow talks pudding dips to make balls softer.

And then demonstrates clam steaming.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (8O3HH)

187 All I saw was Ace TV.... I would die!! Seriously... DIE!! From happiness!

Ladies and gentlemen, a tank has become stuck in the mud in Israel. Ace TV will be pre-empted for the duration.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (gIRsn)

188 Next on ACE TV: Longbows vs. Crossbows IV, The Bow-ening.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (Ks7qc)

189 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:04 PM

Proof that this whole television broadcasting thing has become corrupted and needs to go away and be replaced by something else.

If Obama can threaten to put coal mining out of business, for the public good, then we can threaten to put broadcast TV out of business for the same reason.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (m9X4Y)

190 Anna.. I can supply the jewelry for the ettes

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (CNHr1)

191 Over The Hump with LauraW

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (oVJmc)

192 Ladies and gentlemen, a tank has become stuck in the mud in Israel. Ace TV will be pre-empted for the duration.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (gIRsn)

That will never not be funny.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (sGSvK)

193 Next up on AceTV:

9mm vs .45ACP. A penetrating look at the question.

(Note to viewers, after the staggering repair costs for the walls of
the studio the last time we covered this, we have banned live fire
demonstrations for this telecast.)

Next week - longbow versus crossbow! Stay tuned!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (QvC3K)

194 That question from years ago....did they ever define porn ?

Posted by: E.T. at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (P1GJy)

195 Next up on AceTV:

AtC hosts a roundtable discussion with a guest panel of 'ettes on the proper use of flamthrowers for pest control.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (rb1zT)

196 >>I don't think I actually want to go down this road,

How do you think I feel?

I have to walk back alone.

Posted by: Punchlines! at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (OSiAE)

197 If the FBI wanted to quell the chaos...they would release what was on the note in Paddock's room, and let the local police talk about it.

Supposedly bullet trajectory calculations. Yeah. Hadn't figured that out ahead of time.

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (48QDY)

198 141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

Yes. But only on thursdays.

Posted by: RI Red at October 11, 2017 07:10 PM (wkVYq)

199 Ace TV shows reruns of All In The Famalam and GilliGAINZZZ Island pretty much all the damned time.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 11, 2017 07:10 PM (z2W2E)

200 Next on ACE TV: Where to find a dead horse, and how to beat it... in chess.

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 07:10 PM (Ks7qc)

201 Has anybody explained yet how a guest was able to just hop on a freight elevator without anyone asking questions?

A bunch of us went to NYC one time and stayed at the Marriott Marquis in Times Sq. whose passenger elevators were notoriously slow. So we had a ton of luggage and we're waiting for the elevators. And waiting. And waiting. Finally after about half an hour, the bellhop says "follow me", leads us to the freight elevator, loads us and our stuff up and up we go.
Sometimes it's just easier to move a lot of luggage up on the freight elevator.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:10 PM (O5Q3r)

202 Hey guys, my statement today is that my statement from yesterday has been taken entirely out of context. We haven't made any decisions yet. We like to be decisive when we decide things, if we ever do.

Posted by: Roger Goodell at October 11, 2017 07:10 PM (SkuXa)

203 CBD could have a painting show on ACE TV.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (mcI77)

204 And up next, Very Punny with Seamus Muldoon, Doctor of ~~Girth~~ Mirth.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (mJ8mX)

205 141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

I'm not big on porn. I'm not going to tell you I don't peek but no I'm not big on it. It's no popular to say but I think porn damages a person. Not going to say that it's wrong for everyone, we each need to have our own choices.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (0OmEj)

206 Were I Trump...I would get the FEC to investigate NBC for its collaboration with Hillary Clinton, as revealed by wikileaks.

Get them to agree to an official apology and a moderate fine.

Then have the FCC remove their broadcasting license since they admitted they were acting hand and glove with the Clinton campaign.

MUHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (Z8FFX)

207
Oh, and good Lord, how can we forget. AceTV will have to have a Hope Solo hour. Hope's "Stuff" hour.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (8O3HH)

208 I have a theory on LV based on the latest revelations and synthesizing from earlier reporting.

To me the news that the shooter used the freight elevator is explosive. I cannot imagine it is not controlled access some way. Either a key card to operate or one to get to it. And I don't know that I believe that they don't have cameras in the hall, but let's say that's true, they do have cameras in elevators. So they have a time stamp that they can correlate to an access card scan. Early on the sheriff said he had to have help. I think is partly why he said that.

I think they know the name on the card that he used, but not necessarily the relationship. I think it is possible that a rich guy could offer $10k to someone to loan his card or let him in to the elevator and don't ask questions. So that would make the accomplice an unwitting one.

But if the accomplice is witting...well then it isn't a guy "just snapping." Then this person is definitely of interest. He (or potentially she) can provide some insight into the motive.

Now I am going to blow your mind.

What if the name on the card is Mohammed Mohammed? You don't know whether he is witting to unwitting. And he has bugged out of town because he is in trouble either way.

If the name of the accomplice gets out then a lot of people are going to make an assumption about motive that may or may not be true, and will likely be counterproductive.

This is a thought experiment and assumptions can be wrong. They may have no idea who helped him get to the freight elevator which MB probably doesn't want you to know that there is no security on that. And there are other names that could be "unhelpful" too. But I think that they know the name and that want to find the person who has that name.

I leave with this thought. If ISIS releases proof they are behind this, everyone - EVERYONE (in a Leon the Professional sort of way - will lose their collective shit.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (jHrzU)

209 I though UHF was a pretty good movie too.

Posted by: freaked at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (UdKB7)

210 So for the Monday Night Lingerie Football League game, who will host it? Who will provide color commentary?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (QvC3K)

211 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 06:58 PM (iVOAv)

Girl, even if they don't watch it, it's running in their heads!

And they all watch it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (kuFbc)

212 "at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License?"

That is a perfectly legitimate question. The Networks say "At no point. We are gods. On your bandwidth."

If there is absolutely no point at which their license may be challenged, then why license at all? Just throw names in a hat.

They reached that point with me when they started inciting The War on Cops.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (Ndje9)

213 I can't deny not having seen any, but I like MST3K better.Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 07:03 PM (k1TUh)

I'm sure there are very view men who haven't looked at porn and good for you for looking at MST3K. Wives and girlfriends probably wouldn't mind that. Whereas I think most married women would mind porn if it's a secret thing and done regularly unless they're secretly doing it themselves too..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (iVOAv)

214 203 CBD could have a painting show on ACE TV.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (mcI77)

"Here, we'll just paint a happy fat guy sitting on an ottoman in this corner here. Isn't that nice?"
-CBD with a 'fro

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (rb1zT)

215 Each newsette on Ace TV would have to have a specific theme for their attire. Can't all be rave stompy boot goth lolita type...

*much pondering to be done*

So very many possibilities...naughty librarians, angels, female truckers, dominatrixii, Cake Girls, Tri-Cornered Hat Girls...

and my new personal favorite, Heavy Metal Hannah Girl.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:13 PM (tRaq7)

216 Bases loaded. Great. This game just gets better and better.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:13 PM (lwiT4)

217 171 There sure is a stank in the air about this investigation...dats for sure
Posted by: E.T. at October 11, 2017 07:04 PM (P1GJy)

You mean you don't trust Federal agencies to be open and honest about the investigation, and let the chips fall where they may?

*shakes head sadly*

Posted by: rickl at October 11, 2017 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

218 Yank their licenses.

In a few days, no one would miss them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 11, 2017 07:13 PM (nUkMr)

219 What if the name on the card is Mohammed Mohammed? You don't know whether he is witting to unwitting.
***
I can't see a case where someone gives you 10K to use your ID that doesn't end up with you in a world of problems with your employer, if not the police.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 07:14 PM (Z8FFX)

220 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (kuFbc)

Running it in their heads is different than men habitually watching on the internet without their wives knowing about it, don't you think?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:14 PM (iVOAv)

221 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn.

Do gardening shows count?

Posted by: Harvey W. at October 11, 2017 07:14 PM (oVJmc)

222 And now, it's time for the limerick hour with Muldoon!

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 07:14 PM (kUotE)

223 There are lies, there are damned lies, and then there is NBC.

http://tinyurl.com/yc5w5vl5

It would be nice if they were in a class by themselves but unfortunately they're not.

Posted by: geoffb at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (zOpu5)

224
There has been a continuous XXX rated movie running in my mind's view screen since puberty. I blame testosterone.

It's like the old joke. The mother finds some dirty magazines under her teenage son's bed. She runs to a head shrink for advice on what to do, fearing junior is going to be a sex maniac or something.

The doc tells, don't worry Ma'am, it's just a phase he'll be going through..........................................

for the rest of his life.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (8O3HH)

225 I see that Honest Elon's Used Rocket Barn has made another delivery. Way to go, SpaceX!

Posted by: Anachronda at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (v3pYe)

226 It's no popular to say but I think porn damages a person.

I think it's shame given the cultural climate people can't say that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (iVOAv)

227 16 Bases loaded. Great. This game just gets better and better.
Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:13 PM (lwiT4)
--------

Yeah, but you saw what happened last time. Man, that rain is a mess.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (UoSKV)

228 Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 07:11 PM (0OmEj)
================================

I admire that in a person. I think porn has a negative effect on both the one looking and the one being looked at. Oftentimes, the one being looked at is doing so under duress. They need assistance. It makes me sad that pron damages so many lives for so little reason.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:16 PM (lwiT4)

229 141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. I'm not asking you to identify yourselves, but gosh, that would be a nice thing.

Just out of curiosity, why do you ask? Why not just assume the morons of the horde, as bawdry and rambunctious as they are, don't watch and leave it at that?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 11, 2017 07:16 PM (1YEOU)

230 [Agent 1]Can we tell the rubes it was just work place violence?

[Agent 2]Hmm...no Trump will rip us a new one.

[Agent 1]How about a couple of lone wolves who just coincidentally happen to be muslims?

[Agent 2]The people might come lynch us.

[Agent 1]Ok, how about we leak this information we have on Harvey Weinstein and hope everyone forgets about it?

[Agent 2]Hmm...that is so crazy it might just work.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 07:16 PM (Z8FFX)

231 I kinda think tweets like this are a new form of agitprop. My Facebook friends are apoplectic over Trump. Never seen the like. I think he knows the effect he's having and enjoys pushing their buttons. Plus he knows his supporters won't take tweets like this too seriously. (Except Ace.)

Posted by: Caliban at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (QE8X6)

232 226 It's no popular to say but I think porn damages a person.

I think it's shame given the cultural climate people can't say that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (iVOAv)
---------

I agree, Fen. In fact, our pastor gave quite a homily about that this past Sunday. He said it has become the biggest religion in our country.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (UoSKV)

233 If ISIS was behind the shooting wouldn't they have released the evidence by now?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (iVOAv)

234 Yeah, but you saw what happened last time. Man, that rain is a mess.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (UoSKV)
===========================

We can't get a run to save our lives. Craptastic

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (lwiT4)

235 'I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. '

Define "porn".

Posted by: freaked at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (UdKB7)

236 141 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn.
==

I only watch it for the articles.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (BUahG)

237 103 Ace TV - Limerick House w/Muldoon will be scheduled for the 10pm Eastern time slot.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:51 PM (QvC3K)

And 3 hours of Modern Misanthropy with Insomniac begins at 11:30PM.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (Bl5Zt)

238 Most freight elevators in any large building or hotel I've ever been in either have an access system or an actual person running them.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (O5Q3r)

239 Will there be much cursing on Ace TV? Busty lesbian pron?

Cuz I can make a hole in my schedule.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (0ogQG)

240 Weinstein just hired Keith Olberman's lawyer to fight for his job back! Patricia Glaser. Will Keef be telling her to fuck off?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (mNQwG)

241 Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (UoSKV)

Good for him. Your pastor is brave man.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (iVOAv)

242 Deeper question...

When does criticism of the sitting government rise to the level of treason?

There is more coverage of President Trump every single day, than Obama ever got... there are multiple negative stories EVERY SINGLE DAY.

They are actively telling lies to try to discredit the sitting President of the US.... and this DOES have Foreign Policy ramifications.

Do you really think Kim Jong would be so frisky if the entire US was seen to be behind President Trump? If his threats were BACKED up by those in Congress, his own administration, and the media?

The MEDIA makes our Government look like its dysfunctional... which sadly... it is... but they try to lay all the blame on President Trump.... which is untrue.

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (NgKpN)

243 Can't wait for the first ACE TV Telethon.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (mcI77)

244 OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (lwiT4)

245 If ISIS was behind the shooting wouldn't they have released the evidence by now?
***
What evidence should we expect to see? How many of the other American jihadis had such 'evidence'?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (Z8FFX)

246 Woah! Grand slam!

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (O5Q3r)

247 Porn Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (Sfs6o)

248 243
Can't wait for the first ACE TV Telethon.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (mcI77)
valurite stock up?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (0O7c5)

249 Will Ace TV give BCochran a cooking slot?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (QvC3K)

250 Oh my. Oh my!!!

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (UoSKV)

251 Like most propaganda dimwits, the TV networks have overplayed their hands. For propaganda to work, it needs to be subtle and about 75 to 80 percent truth. They have abandoned subtlety and include no truth in their news--just the opinions of their overlords. Well everyone has a video camera in their purse or pocket and can now capture enough of an event to prove the media tells wholesale lies.

I finally had to quit reading one FB "friend's" posts. She cannot get over Hillz' loss and the final straw was when she posted that millions of people without press credentials sat at their keyboards and spread stuff about H to her detriment. She lamented that those folks had the right to do that--only the PRESS should be allowed to report, shape, and disseminate the news. Nope, Sweetie, those days are over. In fact, the media is just about over.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (kXoT0)

252 'I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. '

Define "porn".

Also "married."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (oVJmc)

253 Next up, a riveting investigative journalism piece on whether there's a difference between parasols and umbrellas!

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (kUotE)

254 3 hours of Modern Misanthropy with Insomniac begins at 11:30PM.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 11, 2017 07:18 PM (Bl5Zt)

Well, in fairness-and I like Insommnaic a good deal-and he knows that, there'd be a few rotating co-hosts with him. It did, however, make me laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:20 PM (iVOAv)

255 Fenelon, they say they have evidence he converted. At least that's what I read today. Who knows...

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at October 11, 2017 07:20 PM (CNHr1)

256 G R A N D S L A M

Ah well.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:20 PM (lwiT4)

257

I'm sure there are very view men who haven't looked at porn and good for you for looking at MST3K. Wives and girlfriends probably wouldn't mind that.

=====

And that, of course, is the most important thing.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 07:20 PM (BUahG)

258 oh F@#$,
Nats just hit a grand slam. Damn.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at October 11, 2017 07:20 PM (yJ1e6)

259 'Can't wait for the first ACE TV Telethon'

We can get Kramer to host!

Posted by: freaked at October 11, 2017 07:20 PM (UdKB7)

260 Nue but I think I shall go and write instead.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (QvC3K)

261
I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn.

What is this "porn" you speak of?

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (O5Q3r)

262 The aim of the left is to stop people like 'us' from speaking our mind in public. Anywhere. Including this place. Oh, well. We tried. Now on to the next 'step'.

Posted by: Eromero at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (zLDYs)

263 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:19 PM (oVJmc)

Nope; We went through that before and it occasioned nasty arguments on the board.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (iVOAv)

264 I only watch it for the articles.

I watch it on fast-forward.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (tRaq7)

265 Ace TV: The Bob Ross Marathon. Followed by The Rat Patrol.

Interesting programming ideas.

Posted by: dantesed at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (88xKn)

266 What Farmer said.

on two outs

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (lwiT4)

267 I'm wondering if there are any married men on this site who don't watch porn. '

Define "porn".

Also "married."
===

And "men".

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (BUahG)

268 >>What evidence should we expect to see? How many of the other American jihadis had such 'evidence'?

Omar Mateen called the cops in the middle of his attack to proclaim his allegiance to ISIS and Allah and they found lots of evidence at his home and on his computer. If there is similar evidence at Paddock's place, and why wouldn't there be, why would they hide it?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (/tuJf)

269 Grammie, remember, even if the Nats win, there's still one more game. My team will have another chance to lose.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (UoSKV)

270 Weird, audio must've gone out at Wrigley during that Taylor grand slam.

teee hheeee

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (RDd1I)

271 I only watch it for the articles.
I watch it on fast-forward.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:21 PM (tRaq7)

Yup...I watch it for the soundtracks.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (nUkMr)

272 213---Whereas I think most married women would mind porn if it's a secret thing and done regularly.....
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM
---------------------------
The "secret" part wouldn't bother me. In fact, I'd rather it be "secret," in the sense of private.
But done regularly, yeah, that would bother me.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (0jtPF)

273 ACE TV can go late night infomercial too. To pay some of the bills. Think Sham Wow and Slam Chop.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (mcI77)

274 I kinda think tweets like this are a new form of agitprop. My Facebook friends are apoplectic over Trump. Never seen the like. I think he knows the effect he's having and enjoys pushing their buttons. Plus he knows his supporters won't take tweets like this too seriously. (Except Ace.)

Posted by: Caliban at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (QE8X6)

Either way, it's great.

If Trump can do something, great. If he can't or if it's fuzzy, make them sweat. The more of their heads that explode, the better.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 07:23 PM (vD1/5)

275 Yank their licenses.

In a few days, no one would miss them.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 11, 2017 07:13 PM (nUkMr)

Yes. These days, I tell everyone that I don't watch the news--not even for the weather--got an ap for that. I used to get funny looks--you have to watch the news--eleventy!!! Now, folks just nod and say, "I don't either. "

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 07:23 PM (kXoT0)

276 Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (/tuJf)

Apparently somebody already burglarized his house-getting rid of evidence of----whatever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:23 PM (iVOAv)

277 Grammie, remember, even if the Nats win, there's still one more game. My team will have another chance to lose.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (UoSKV)
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That's the only thing keeping my head going thru a wall.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:23 PM (lwiT4)

278 BUY MY FUCKING PILLOW, MORONS!

Posted by: Mike Lindell at October 11, 2017 07:23 PM (OSiAE)

279 ACE TV can go late night infomercial too. To pay some of the bills. Think Sham Wow and Slam Chop.

Is Tom Vu still around?

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:24 PM (O5Q3r)

280 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:14 PM (iVOAv)

I can't imagine any wife thinking their husband and sons aren't watching it, though.

Maybe super religious women. Who come from super sheltered backgrounds.

Not exactly advocating for it, but it doesn't bother me that Thor looks at porn. Men have always looked at porn.

Now, if it was non stop and he literally sat there and didn't do anything but look at porn all day, every day, I'd be mad, but heck I'd be just as mad if it were video games.

Having said all that, I think overall it's detrimental to society, but I am not bothered by my husband's habits. I even make it fun for him sometimes!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:24 PM (kuFbc)

281 I find it hard to believe that anyone with an internet connection has never seen porn, even just by accident.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 11, 2017 07:24 PM (mNQwG)

282 231 My Facebook friends are apoplectic over Trump. Never seen the like.

Posted by: Caliban at October 11, 2017 07:17 PM (QE8X6)

Were your Facebook friends too young to be screaming "BUSH IS HITLER" non-stop between 2001-2008? I clearly recall the left being just as deranged then as now.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 11, 2017 07:25 PM (5sQ8t)

283 >>I find it hard to believe that anyone with an internet connection has never seen porn, even just by accident.

Never. Not once.

Honest Injun.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 11, 2017 07:25 PM (OSiAE)

284 Dana Loesch in a string bikini hawking The Circulatory Super-Food.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:25 PM (mcI77)

285 Well, at least Addison Russell's mother won't have to hang herself.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 11, 2017 07:25 PM (0jtPF)

286 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 11, 2017 07:24 PM (mNQwG)

I believed I already re-phrased it-habitual watching of it without a spouse knowing. I'm assuming people knew what I meant-not "Oh, I clicked on the wrong website and got naked ladies by mistake.".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:26 PM (iVOAv)

287 As for the FBI keeping quiet about Paddock converting to Islam, we must remember that for 8 years Bobo/ValJar/LyinLynch/Holder subverted the FBI et al by cramming the Muslim Brotherhood et al into positions of power anywhere they could. That has not been rectified.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 07:26 PM (kXoT0)

288 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 11, 2017 07:24 PM (mNQwG)

Excuse me-"Naked ladies having sex"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:26 PM (iVOAv)

289

P. Diddy Solves NFL Problem: Get Rid Of The White People, He Wants To Own An All-Black Football League

Games broadcast on ACE-TV

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 07:26 PM (IqV8l)

290 Because if they lost 1-0, you know she would.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (0jtPF)

291
In my day, back in the '80s, porn was much harder to get. And that's the way it should be, for teenage boys, in the impressionable years.

I make jokes about what would've happened to a young 13yr old Publius if all this Internet porn had been available back then (penile excoriation would've occured, for starters).

But, lord, I think we're running that experiment with the young boys now. And I don't think the result is too good.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (8O3HH)

292 50

I'm pretty sure that was Kevin Meany.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (6n332)

293 Bye Cubs.

No dog in the WS this years. I'd be fine with a team that either hasn't one ever (Astros or Nationals) or in a very long time (Indians).

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (pY+s4)

294 Oh, I know one... irongrampa.

No way he watches porn. He has morals.

And hobbies.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (kuFbc)

295 #242 Doctor of Love just commented this at Insty's, Don Q.:

The King and Country debate took place at the Oxford Union debating society of Oxford University in England on 9 February 1933. The motion, "that this House will in no circumstances fight for its King and Country", was carried by 275 votes to 153.[1] It is one of the most widely reported and discussed debates conducted at the Oxford Union.

Churchill would, after the war, write on how Japan and Germany too took note of the motion, which altered their way of thinking about Britain as a "decadent, degenerate... and swayed many [of their] calculations".

Posted by: andycanuck at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (mJ8mX)

296 >>Apparently somebody already burglarized his house-getting rid of evidence of----whatever.

That was well after the police and the FBI went through both his properties.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

297 293:

one = won

my engrish is badly

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 11, 2017 07:28 PM (pY+s4)

298 Next up, a 2-hour special on the importance of staying hydrated. Unfortunately there will be a Sonobi ad covering part of your screen during the entire presentation.

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 07:28 PM (kUotE)

299 I keed. Watching pr0n is like watching people eat.

I've seen my share, but it's just not anything I care for, or ever really did. It was fun occasionally or when it was something out of the ordinary, like the guy who could blow himself.

If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

Ever.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (tRaq7)

300 Payload deploy!

I believe that was the third used Falcon 9 first stage successfully re-launched and re-landed this year.

Posted by: rickl at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (sdi6R)

301 (penile excoriation would've occured, for starters).

LOL You're a funny man, publius.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (iVOAv)

302 What is this 'porn' you speak of?

Posted by: garrett at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (OSiAE)

303 I know men who have accountability partners when it comes to porn. They get some kind of app for their computers and tablets and things. Then if they go to a porn site, somehow it signals their accountability person. So, it helps people who are addicted and all.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (lwiT4)

304 Watching 917s go at it at LeMans gets me kinda hot.

Posted by: freaked at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (UdKB7)

305 Coming up next on Ace-TV, "This Old Shelf" followed by "The Ben Roethlisberger Sports Machine"

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:30 PM (O5Q3r)

306 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 07:27 PM (8O3HH)

Agree, it's way too easily available now for youngsters. and frankly for oldsters!

You'd have been like those poor chickens whose feet grow into their wired cages... your hands would have sent out feeder blood vessels to your joystick and become permanently attached!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (kuFbc)

307 That's the only thing keeping my head going thru a wall.

Grammie, stop putting your head thru the wall.

Posted by: Goofin' on ya at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (ACjI+)

308 Coming up next on Ace- Women's Lingerie Curling.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (mcI77)

309 Yank ALL the licenses, and don't renew anyone for say, five years minimum. No teewee at all; ex-teewee bighairs forced to work at Starbucks. Heh.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (HxhpU)

310 304 Watching 917s go at it at LeMans gets me kinda hot.
Posted by: freaked

Especially pre-chicane Mulsanne Straight!

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (pY+s4)

311 308 Coming up next on Ace- Women's Lingerie Curling.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (mcI77)

Brought to you by our good friends at Value Right!

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 07:32 PM (NgKpN)

312 Nood

Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 07:32 PM (O5Q3r)

313 'Especially pre-chicane Mulsanne Straight!'

Bunk!

Posted by: freaked at October 11, 2017 07:32 PM (UdKB7)

314 Grammie, stop putting your head thru the wall.

Posted by: Goofin' on ya at October 11, 2017 07:31 PM (ACjI+)
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I'd stop, but the Scoreboard says "do it!"

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 07:32 PM (lwiT4)

315 Tune in Sunday, Sunday Sunday! For the always exciting, sometimes heartbreaking, Pet show!

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 07:33 PM (kUotE)

316 Proof that this whole television broadcasting thing has become corrupted and needs to go away and be replaced by something else.

If Obama can threaten to put coal mining out of business, for the
public good, then we can threaten to put broadcast TV out of business
for the same reason.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 11, 2017 07:08 PM (m9X4Y)

Don't equate ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX for television broadcasters. Yes, they do own some stations, but the vast majority of the stations are owned by much smaller broadcasters. Those entities are networks and just supply the programming to individual stations.

Obama could say he was going to "bankrupt" the coal industry, but he didn't. He hurt it with Executive Orders, but those orders have been rescinded.

Hell, President Trump can say whatever he wants to about the TV networks because he has a 1st Amendment right of free speech too.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:33 PM (1JnAL)

317 What is this 'porn' you speak of?
Posted by: garrett at October 11, 2017 07:29 PM (OSiAE)

Don't sully the purity of your innocent heart with it, dear one. It isn't fit for you to know of.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:33 PM (kuFbc)

318 Russia is having Trump threaten NBC for exposing the Trump-Russia collusion to vastly increase American nuke stockpile. Russia profits from its huge stockpile of uranium that America will buy from them. Just follow the money.

But stop before you ask how Russia got what was American uranium.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 11, 2017 07:33 PM (IWbvi)

319 How do the broadcast licenses work for the digital over-the-air signal? There doesn't seem to be a shortage of bandwidth for all the channels available in an area there and several provide no public service at all.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 11, 2017 07:34 PM (mNQwG)

320 210
So for the Monday Night Lingerie Football League game, who will host it? Who will provide color commentary?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 07:12 PM (QvC3K)

I think the product will speak for itself.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:34 PM (1JnAL)

321 >> LOL You're a funny man, publius.

DO NOT ASSUME MY GENDER, H8R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 07:35 PM (8O3HH)

322 And... wait, a producer is talking in my ear.... It looks like we have a nood, folks!

Posted by: Johnny at October 11, 2017 07:35 PM (kUotE)

323 >>Don't sully the purity of your innocent heart with it, dear one. It isn't fit for you to know of.

Oh, good. I was afraid I was missong out on something important.

Gotta stay informed.

Knowledge is Power and all that.

Posted by: garrett at October 11, 2017 07:36 PM (OSiAE)

324 @Fen there was an interview published in Newsweek about ISIS delaying the proof on purpose. They could wait for the FBI to say no terrorism and then show their proof. Because they want to undermine trust in Intel/LEO.

Kind of a double bankshot thing. I don't know that I buy it but they would be doing the opposite if they don't have proof after all the claiming they have done.

So hard to say.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 07:36 PM (jHrzU)

325 1000 Trump Tweets.

2000 Smart set panics, laughs, points, predicts Trump's downfall is imminent.

3000 Continue for one week.

3500 If "TrumpDoublesDown"=YES, gosub 1000

4000 Trump wins.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 07:38 PM (oVJmc)

326 Posted by: garrett at October 11, 2017 07:36 PM (OSiAE)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 07:39 PM (kuFbc)

327 F*ck that, this is what I want. Ace, you say you are not sure you want to go down this road. But there is no other road. There is no end-game. There is only Destruction, and whatever is rebuilt after that. Otherwise it is the boot, on our faces, forever.

Posted by: Dude at October 11, 2017 07:39 PM (ZhZlz)

328 Omar Mateen called the cops in the middle of his
attack to proclaim his allegiance to ISIS and Allah and they found lots
of evidence at his home and on his computer. If there is similar
evidence at Paddock's place, and why wouldn't there be, why would they
hide it?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 07:22 PM (/tuJf)

Could be that the FBI and other LEO's have some very good intel and are working to break up some cells around the country/globe.

Just because they are stepping on their dicks to get on TV like they all did under Obama that they are covering up anything.They may just not want to fuck up any intel they got so that they could just set the narrative of the story.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:42 PM (1JnAL)

329 Watching 917s go at it at LeMans gets me kinda hot.

Any vehicle going 0 to 300+ mph in just a few seconds gets my motor running, IYKWIM.

Boats, too.

Physics is sexy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:43 PM (tRaq7)

330 Meh. There was a time I would have thought Harsanyi was making a good point. That was kind of a while ago.

Not everyone realized just what a gauntlet we threw down by electing PDT. The left's response has made that all too clear.

We've got exactly one way out of this and it is Forward to Victory. The enemy has already set the Rules of Engagement.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 11, 2017 07:44 PM (z3Hmr)

331 Don't sully the purity of your innocent heart with it, dear one. It isn't fit for you to know of.

This woman knows whereof she speaks.

Innocence is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 07:46 PM (tRaq7)

332 319
How do the broadcast licenses work for the digital over-the-air signal?
There doesn't seem to be a shortage of bandwidth for all the channels
available in an area there and several provide no public service at all.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 11, 2017 07:34 PM (mNQwG)

Digital transmission is much more efficient that the old analog system. Because it is more efficient, the broadcasters are able to use their "subchannels" to deliver other networks. In the analog days, those subchannels could not be used to deliver broadcast quality but could deliver some audio data.

The radio station I worked at was started years earlier by the local company that provided Muzak. They used one of the subchannels to deliver the Muzak throughout the city and didn't give a shit what kind of ratings the station had or if it went out of the city proper.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:49 PM (1JnAL)

333 328
Could be that the FBI and other LEO's have some very good intel and are working to break up some cells around the country/globe.

Just because they are stepping on their dicks to get on TV like they all did under Obama that they are covering up anything.They may just not want to fuck up any intel they got so that they could just set the narrative of the story.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 11, 2017 07:42 PM (1JnAL)

In a sane world, that would be what is happening.

But after eight years of Marxist and Muslim infiltration of our government agencies, including law enforcement and intelligence, I'm not sure that's the safe way to bet.

Posted by: rickl at October 11, 2017 07:49 PM (sdi6R)

334 Very good and thoughtful write up. However, networks do NOT have licenses. Only individual stations have licenses and are subject to having them removed. All what you have written is correct, except it is relevant ONLY to stations. The 'networks' each own stations. Those could be subject to sanctions, but not the network as such.

Posted by: Lew Colby at October 11, 2017 07:56 PM (aXRTE)

335 Put the bandwidth up for auction, let them compete against cellular phones. Good luck, assholes.

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2017 08:06 PM (9TU00)

336 The entire legal theory of corporations and limited liability is that states grant this benefit in return for the public good to be served by the grant.

States used to sign off on corporations individually, at the legislature level. In our more enlightened times, the states have deemed the economic activity of corporations to be sufficient service to the public good to justify the grant, but they do not have to. States could have higher standards if they wished.

You don't need to be a broadcaster to be receiving a public benefit that allows regulation. Being organized as a limited liability entity should be enough for states to require you not to deceive the public with your businesses.

Posted by: hoodaticus at October 11, 2017 08:09 PM (vitRc)

337 This whole question of the right of the Left to continue lying about their dangerous and divisive programs and policies has been coming to a head for a while.

I've always thought they should license news casters. Not with a fee or in anyway interfere with their rights speech but they should be required to note their affiliations and any consistent pattern of political advocacy. And allow the viewer/listener to decide whether the news caster is telling the truth or has an agenda.

Of course the screams would be heard from coast to coast.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 11, 2017 08:10 PM (/26zP)

338 "2. Even post-deregulation, the idea was still that "market forces" would achieve what the previous laws' more persnickety rules intended to achieve. If that has not actually come to pass -- and it has not -- the rules can be changed." You don't need an FCC licence to print a paper, but Pinch continued to use the NYT as a platform for Hillary and charge money to read it. That didn't work out so well. Hillary lost and now Pinch is renting out 8 floors of his own building to keep the lights on. I'd much rather be patient and watch NBC drown in red ink than yank anyone's licence. I'm not against threatening that, though!

Posted by: hurricane567 at October 11, 2017 08:12 PM (5e2Ef)

339 Said this before, I'll say it again, I don't want three major broadcast titans. I want 30 networks, or three hundred. I want the national nets broken. I want to see regional networks, run by people representative of the places they operate. It is time to break the cultural and political hegemony of the coasts. Monoculture is stagnation and doom. Time to bring that "pluribus" back, baby!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at October 11, 2017 08:16 PM (66CWr)

340 See the top story at the Daily Mail.

TMZ was the first to report Uncle Harvey pitching a hissy at his daugther's house this afternoon. That's the daughter with his first wife.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 08:29 PM (8O3HH)

341 Broadcast spectrum is not scarce in any meaningful sense. It should be owned, and homesteadable. In other words, no licenses for anyone. Deeds.

Posted by: David at October 11, 2017 09:59 PM (dhQoG)

342 4. Religious programs.

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Yule log.

Posted by: Corona at October 11, 2017 10:28 PM (G8IjC)

343 Old and tired here, Cubs lost, bummer.

See you tomorrow, must go off to work. Be well you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at October 11, 2017 10:57 PM (yJ1e6)

344 Thanks for this excellent piece, Ace. I was looking around for this information on the web last night and became overwhelmed. Should've known I just had to wait for you to 'splain it all. Funny how PDJT's tweets get us to stop, think and learn. Reminds me of one of my grade school teachers.

Posted by: Mary at October 12, 2017 08:37 AM (2ly7u)

345 While we're on this topic, why doesn't DJT instruct the FCC to stop issuing licenses to spanish-language broadcasters. Issuing them is, without a doubt, not in the public interest.

Posted by: Chicago60609 at October 12, 2017 09:23 AM (9LeeQ)

346 It's worth noting the historical context of the underlying law. The certification process is a Roosevelt-era contrivance designed to keep political opponents from gaining a wide audience over the airwaves (with Father Coughlin in mind). It was used as a pretext for suppressing voices from the right all the way up through the 1970s. While turnabout might seem like fair play - and it is delicious to consider the prospect of left leaning outfits being subjected to the inquistion they richly deserve - it was always an authoritarian provision that should never have been enacted. In any case, in our own time news can be delivered by cable or the internet, so the rules can't have much practical effect on mass media content.

With all the current talk about authoritarians in the executive, remember that FDR was a high-handed autocrat, and leaves both BO and DJ in the dust when it comes to authoritarianism

Posted by: binkless at October 12, 2017 09:34 AM (N+nFk)

347 I used to be GM of a mid-size telecomm company broadband division. We delivered fiber to the home (FTTH) broadband, digital TV and telephony services as a CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier).

Big picture perspective: This sort of power to regulate content over what a 'public utility' is the reason for Obama's "Net Neutrality" move to make the Internet a public utility regulated under Title II.

Title II grants government the power to regulate the entire supply and delivery system up to and including end-receivers such as PCs, smart-phones, TVs, the Internet-of-Things or IoT, etc. That regulatory power includes hardware, software *and* content.

Prior to that GM position, I worked as a network architect for HP and spent a lot of time with national and international standards bodies in the early days of the Internet and even then, the various government's *strong* desires to control (regulate) the then emerging Internet was, IMO, frightening.

It is very telling that so many ostensibly 'freedom loving' Americans want to hand so much control to the government in the name of "net-neutrality". The power of Leftist/globalist propaganda is scary.

PS: Exercise for the reader. How many cases have there been in America of violations of 'net-neutrality'? I'm talking about the concept, not Obama's regulation. So, how many cases, both before and after the government takeover of the Internet?

Posted by: DrDean at October 12, 2017 03:36 PM (KiUxL)

348 "75 No to subsidies to any one. You pay for your freq band. Sink or swim, bitches.
Posted by: Fritz at October 11, 2017 06:45 PM (3ubcI)s"

This is what I don't get about many self-identified libertarians. Supposedly, they oppose government medfling in the free market, but when it comes to their favorite big businesses, suddenly forcing them to actually sink or swim via actual market forces, the cries of "muh free markets" goes through the roof. as if Comcast would ever suvive without the politicians they bought granting them artificial monopolies and on their stellar customer service alone.

Bitches, subsidies and bailouts are NOT THE FREE MARKET. I should not have to explain this very basic principle.

Posted by: Saber Alter at October 13, 2017 01:05 PM (cQtHM)

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