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Area Drunken Obese Woman Has Important Opinions on Shooting



Even the National Laughingstock is calling bullshit on this drunk's babblings:


By the way, CNN's Jeff Zeleney thought it was important to note that the victims of the attack were likely Trump supporters.

"Something else, I think, to keep in mind–a lot of these country music supporters are likely Trump supporters," Zeleny said. "This is something, of course, hitting the tapestry of all Americans and there are going to be victims from across the country here."

I don't know how he meant that, but I don't find the statement necessarily objectionable: the fact that this group probably did include a lot of Trump supporters has occurred to me a lot, and probably to you too. It's a possible (only possible) hint about motive.

Of course, he may have just been looking for any large group of people to shoot up. But there are many of those. He specifically chose this one.

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM




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1 Go away Hillary.

Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (rmVvL)

2 What an absolute contemptible ass she is.

Posted by: Strobe at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (gbWkA)

3 Well, that's the first thing I thought this morning. He was a liberal angered at Trump and killed country music fans......who tend to be conservative.

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (Pi667)

4 You have to expect ignoramuses to opine ignorantly -- and Hillary Clilnton is not an exception to that rule.

A gun that fires subsonic rounds can be quieted greatly, albeit not completely; an AR-15 can only be reduced from "almost deafening" to "Damn, should have worn hearing protection."

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (mj4NC)

5 Mrs Sniper Fire has spoken.

Posted by: Rex B at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (EOmFn)

6 Types/delete is a thing today.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (0OmEj)

7 My corkscrew has a silencer. *hic!*

Posted by: Hillary 2020! at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (bc2Lc)

8 I'd like to get a silencer for her.

Posted by: Eggo at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (D4xED)

9
Democrats in public: "Right as usual, Madame President!"

Democrats in private: "Go walk in the woods and meet a bear, you drunken sot'"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (BWL+E)

10 Anybody got a silencer for She Who Will Never Be President's fat, drunken yap?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (ikvbz)

11 We dodged a national disaster when she was not elected.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (0OmEj)

12 10 Anybody got a silencer for She Who Will Never Be President's fat, drunken yap?
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (ikvbz)

A hot sunny day?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (72PAC)

13

Ahhhh..... the old auto-weapon* silencer shooting from an elevated position ploy. She's an idiot.



*assumption

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (r+sAi)

14 4 - This^^^^

Posted by: rammajamma at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (AjNMO)

15 IBCBATS

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (60v4h)

16 top 100!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (wmaTe)

17 Just like ISIS driver rolling over German Christmas market is targeting a particular type likely to be present, I guess...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (W+vEI)

18 By the way, CNN's Jeff Zeleney thought it was important to note that the victims of the attack were likely Trump supporters.



Was he cheering that?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (493sH)

19 Go to her website and look at the plan to revive small business. Tor go to bed.

Posted by: Ruth at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (loZXu)

20 Normal human being:
"The victims were likely to be mostly conservative Trump voters -- an irrelevant fact. So sad."

Liberal:
"The victims were likely to be mostly conservative Trump voters -- Yay! Those assholes deserved it for opposing gun control! Die, fuckers!"

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (DQ4Fv)

21 That was the empty box of Chardonnay tweeting.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (y7DUB)

22 The pubs really show their true colors when this crap happens. My FB Has all kinds of crazy in it

Posted by: Big swingin Al at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (8WS2E)

23 Jeff Zeleney to the Thought Control Room for your Condtioning.

Jeff Zeleney, please come to the Thought Control Room for your Correct Think Conditioning.

Posted by: CNN Public Address System at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (aT+Bx)

24
She's right!

Silencers or Suppressors can be bought by anyone at, get this, auto parts stores!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_pcWPdSDs

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (f7hW7)

25 Old Lady Shouts At Clouds

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (60v4h)

26 I'm telling you, the Left thinks that silencers are like in the movies and you can send out a Warthog with silencers screwed onto the guns and it can take out a hillside of enemies without making a sound.

Alex Jones looks at what the Left thinks about silencers and goes "Dude, that's crazy pants."

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

27 If this guy had shot up a Beyonce concert the MSM would have been full-blown white supremacy from the beginning.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (UBzPO)

28 Interesting that Hillary would talk about a silencer, since she most certainly needs one. Or at least a muzzle.

Maybe she's still wondering why she's not 50 points ahead.

Posted by: mercenary13 at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (45reg)

29 IBCBATS

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (60v4h)

LOL

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (Jcg9Q)

30 Never let a news-cycle go to waste.

Posted by: paraphrasing Josef Stalin. at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (DQ4Fv)

31 I know it was super foolish, but the guy at the concert defiantly giving the finger to the shooter warmed my heart a little.

'Merica. Bent, not broken.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (hvf9s)

32 When even the WaPo calls bullshit on HRC...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

33 that's not how this works,

that's not how any of this works

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (FZYNt)

34 I mentioned earlier that my buddy has a .22LR with a legal suppressor and he let me shoot it last summer.

I really wasn't that impressed.

I mean, it's a .22, so its not super loud to begin with, but if I had to spitball a number, I'd say maybe a 25% decrease in sound? Still loud enough where I felt the need to wear hearing protection.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (wmaTe)

35 Yeah, as somebody pointed out below, if you've got a beef with the casino then why not go shoot up the casino?

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (RD7QR)

36
And here's that Fluffy White Kitten that looks like a stuffed animal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCoo4dVDvu8

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (f7hW7)

37 10 Anybody got a silencer for She Who Will Never Be President's fat, drunken yap?
Posted by: an indifferent penguin at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (ikvbz)




Huma's muff?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (ujg0T)

38 Who else but the FAB would know what it sounds like to be shot at? Oh, wait......

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (jxbfJ)

39 I mentioned before that sound is only one small indication of gunshots. It's when people around you start falling and you see and hear the ricochet.

If you've ever been shot at, you know these things. It's very loud and unusual when you are the one downrange.

And yes, you would hear the suppressed fire at a decibel or proportion equivalent to distance. But by the time you figured direction if you're breathing, you are already behind cover.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (NMCva)

40 If only Hillary had used a silencer on her mouth during the campaign, she might have won.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (DQ4Fv)

41 Silencer...

you mean, like those plumbers we hired to deal with Vince Foster?

Posted by: Hillary at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (HYDPz)

42 wellone thing is sure He did shoot a bunch of country western Hicks that likely owned Guns themselves back home and liked Trump.

so a necessary evil/ cough/ high five ..
the left

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (FKrah)

43 Keep talking and tweeting, Hillary, please!!


Trump's being presidential while you're being awful.
The key is that Trump has a history of flame-tweet on less serious topics. You are 100% strident on twitter and completely tone-deaf.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (W+vEI)

44 Speculation is that the shooter used a "Gat Crank" due to the combination of an uneven though rapid rate of fire.

I wasn't at this particular music festival, but I've been to ones where there were even more advantageous places to shoot.

Honestly, there are so many ways to attack a music festival like that. I've heard reports that the shooter had an aviation license, so a plane crash would have potentially done more damage.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (itfg0)

45 Sorry. Libs not pubs. Had to type it 4 times damn autocorrect

Posted by: Big swingin Al at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (8WS2E)

46 26 I'm telling you, the Left thinks that silencers are like in the movies and you can send out a Warthog with silencers screwed onto the guns and it can take out a hillside of enemies without making a sound.

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

Right. Unfortunately, we don't live in a James Bond movie and you can't actually silence a gun to the point where you can shoot one bad guy and the bad guy standing 5 feet away doesn't hear you.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (wmaTe)

47 Ed!! Get me some of those silencers!!!

Posted by: Nadine Hurley at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (TOk1P)

48 >>If you've ever been shot at, you know these things. It's very loud and unusual when you are the one downrange.


By the time you hear anything at all, bodies are hitting the ground.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (HYDPz)

49 What we really need is a law against shooting people.

Posted by: OCBill at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (df+Zi)

50 Does this moke every get tired of sounding like a babbling old gin mill?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (NMCva)

51 imagine...

you were the president.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (FKrah)

52 Maybe she's still wondering why she's not 50 points ahead.
Posted by: mercenary13 at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (45reg)


Maybe she's 50 sheets to the wind.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (SRKgf)

53 COTTON BALLS!!! GREASED!!!!

Posted by: Nadine Hurley at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (TOk1P)

54 boy are we lucky those protesters that stormed the Embassy in Benghazi didn't have silencers or we still wouldn't know they had been there

Posted by: Hillary! at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (FZYNt)

55 Also, I encourage Hillary to keep shooting off her mouth until November of 2020.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (RD7QR)

56 "Silencers or Suppressors can be bought by anyone at, get this, auto parts stores!"

Oil can suppressors are very effective. The grey area is the thread adapter - technically those need to be registered with a stamp too. Fools on youtube get around this by calling them "solvent traps". Look at the NAPA 4003 filter.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (UBzPO)

57 WHAT IF THE SHOOTER HAD A THING THAT GOES UP!?!

Posted by: Hillary! at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (O5Q3r)

58
SHUT UP HILLARY!!!!

Cant a man enjoy his baffles in peace.?

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (8XRCm)

59 Let's ban tall buildings and country music!

Posted by: liberal who tries to ban something or other after every tragedy at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (DQ4Fv)

60 What we really need is a law against shooting people.


Brilliant!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (60v4h)

61 Does this moke every get tired of sounding like a babbling old gin mill?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (NMCva)


Actually, a babbling old gin mill sounds kind of nice.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (TOk1P)

62
Yeah, as somebody pointed out below, if you've got a beef with the casino then why not go shoot up the casino?
--

You don't.

My guess is that they are Creating the Narrative.

Liberal Democrat involved with Antifa and ISIS murders country music fans offends too many Friends of the Media.

White man who is the son of a murderer snaps and opens fire on country music fans to get revenge on casino only offends the casino.

/and that folks, is how you create a narrative.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (aT+Bx)

63 Silencer...

you mean, like those plumbers we hired to deal with Vince Foster?
Posted by: Hillary at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (HYDPz)


Or the "robber" of Seth Rich who didn't take anything?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (y7DUB)

64 Fools on youtube get around this by calling them "solvent traps".

------

You've broken federal law if you drill the hole to let your "solvent" out.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (8XRCm)

65 Hillary ,you know if we banned Hicks this never would have happened

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (FKrah)

66 57 WHAT IF THE SHOOTER HAD A THING THAT GOES UP!?!
Posted by: Hillary! at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (O5Q3r)

I'm on it!

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (7HtZB)

67
The grey area is the thread adapter - technically those need to be registered with a stamp too.

Didn't know that, but that makes sense.

Probably not hard to fabricate one of those adapters, tho, if you don't mind hacking up your gun barrel.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (f7hW7)

68 I seriously think Hillary has deluded herself into believing she actually won and is President. She is like Johnny Weissmuller running around the nursing home thinking he is actually Tarzan.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (OD2ni)

69 One report this morning was that he recently had some very large transactions with casinos... They could not report if they were winnings or losses..

If they were losses, perhaps he just wanted to go out with a bang that would end up costing Mandalay Bay millions??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (so+oy)

70 You've broken federal law if you drill the hole to let your "solvent" out.

It's self-drilling.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (60v4h)

71 Yeah, as somebody pointed out below, if you've got a beef with the casino then why not go shoot up the casino?

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (RD7QR)


That would be forgotten in a week. Create the largest mass murder event in our history (or something the press is claiming) and you might just take out the entire casino as a profitable entity. Force it into Chapter 11 and sold. Economic impact 1000 times greater.

The guy was some sort of accountant. He could run the numbers.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (EgwCt)

72 How did they Donald Trump Jr. to pose for that picture holding a gun??

Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (7uYFy)

73 What we really need is a law against shooting people.

...

Nah, because then only criminals could kill people.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (T71PA)

74 Cut her some slack, you clowns.

Hillary is used to silenced rounds. For example, the sniper fire she experienced in Bosnia, which no one could hear.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Culture Producer at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (YDMXD)

75 31 I know it was super foolish, but the guy at the concert defiantly giving the finger to the shooter warmed my heart a little.

'Merica. Bent, not broken.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (hvf9s)


FBN just showed the video of that.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (Enq6K)

76 >>Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.

Imagine the deaths if ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Posted by: Zod at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (Bdeb0)

77
What we also really need is a total ban on muslims and leftists.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (f7hW7)

78 The crazy thing about the name "Mandalay Bay" is that the city of Mandalay, in Burma, is hundreds of miles inland, and doesn't have a bay and is not a seaport town at all. Who cam up with that title?

Ban poorly named casinos!

Posted by: liberal who tries to ban something or other after every tragedy at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (DQ4Fv)

79 You've broken federal law if you drill the hole to let your "solvent" out.

It's self-drilling.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (60v4h)

----

I know that.

You know that.

Not everybody knows that.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (8XRCm)

80 White man who is the son of a murderer


Wait - wut?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (SRKgf)

81 Last week I was drinking a lot of Hurricanes.

Thish week I made up a new drink that I call the Silencer.

5 parts Everclear
2 parts vodka
3 parts Coke

But I leave out the Coke because it's fattening.

Posted by: DistHillary at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (j+dfT)

82 She's confusing the muffled sound in her Depends for suppressed fire.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (NMCva)

83 Someone hates my cans!!

Posted by: Hillary! at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (FZYNt)

84 Important to note: on every topic, every single thing in the area of public policy, every single one, Hillary's confident, prescriptive ignorance is the norm for the authoritarian social engineers.

Everything. From economics to "gun control" to foreign policy to welfare to heath care finance to environmental "science" to occupational safety, they don't understand reality, they prescribe things that are pointless or pernicious, and thanks to the death of the historic American mindset (practical, and leave me alone), all of life is now subject to their stupid interference.

Ain't no "national dissolution" happening, peaceful or otherwise. Just a question of somehow surviving the ignorance and arrogance of the populace that surrounds the sensible, thoughtful people.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (QDnY+)

85 President, she will never be.

Posted by: Rusty Yoda at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (toi7g)

86 26 I'm telling you, the Left thinks that silencers are like in the movies and you can send out a Warthog with silencers screwed onto the guns and it can take out a hillside of enemies without making a sound.

You'd need a coupla extra silencers for the engines.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (sGtp+)

87 76 Imagine the deaths if ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Posted by: Zod at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (Bdeb0)

Ia.
Ia.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (WDCYi)

88 Seeing photos of all those fat chicks running in short skirts and cowboy boots, you had to be rooting at least a little for the shooter.

Posted by: Woke Urbans at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

89 Hillary has that thing on her shoulders that goes up...

...her ass.

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (7n4KQ)

90 Silencers are those things that make guns go pfffft, right?

Posted by: 2nd expert at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (yOqwj)

91 My wife just told me that in our local online newspaper there was an AP story noting that this was one of those Christian Harvest events. Can anybody confirm or deny? Thanks.

Posted by: ShainS at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (ysII6)

92 Hillary, wife of a president, Secretary of State, surrounded by and directly responsible for men with guns every day of her adult life, gets her information on firearms from Jason Bourne movies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (UUvSq)

93 81 Last week I was drinking a lot of Hurricanes.

Thish week I made up a new drink that I call the Silencer.

5 parts Everclear
2 parts vodka
3 parts Coke

But I leave out the Coke because it's fattening.
Posted by: DistHillary at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (j+dfT)

Vodka & prune juice - I call it the Pile Driver.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (7HtZB)

94 69 One report this morning was that he recently had some very large transactions with casinos... They could not report if they were winnings or losses..

If they were losses, perhaps he just wanted to go out with a bang that would end up costing Mandalay Bay millions??
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry


Innnn-teresting theory.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

95 hickok45 on youtube shows off the STP oil filter suppressor..

https://youtu.be/7t_pcWPdSDs

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (so+oy)

96 stfu woke

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (FKrah)

97 Willowed. Curious for an answer:


So somebody educate me here. Can someone explain the actual mechanics of bump fire?

It sounds to me like the trigger finger essentially stays still and the recoil with some sort of bounce makes the weapon move back and forth, effectively pulling the trigger repeatedly. is that close?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (mvenn)

98 Seeing photos of all those fat chicks running in short skirts and cowboy boots, you had to be rooting at least a little for the shooter.
Posted by: Woke Urbans at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

------

Please.

Leave the blog.

Dont come back.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (8XRCm)

99 Is that Don Jr in the Zeleny tweet?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (/tuJf)

100 To be fair, she probably hates cans. Hers hang to her knees.

Well maybe she likes Huma's?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (NMCva)

101 78 The crazy thing about the name "Mandalay Bay" is that the city of Mandalay, in Burma, is hundreds of miles inland, and doesn't have a bay and is not a seaport town at all. Who cam up with that title?

Ban poorly named casinos!
Posted by: liberal who tries to ban something or other after every tragedy at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (DQ4Fv)



Shhh! Oh you people who own maps.

I thought that about the old movie "Krakatoa - East of Java." Huh? Krakatoa is WEST of Java, unless you go all the way around the earth to come on Java from the other side.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (SRKgf)

102 oops. Kessler not Zeleny.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (/tuJf)

103 And here's that Fluffy White Kitten that looks like a stuffed animal!
---

very cute. thanks for the palette cleanser!

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (aT+Bx)

104
stfu woke

Yeah.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (f7hW7)

105 Just watched interesting youtube with body language analysis of brother's interview.

Take was that brother telling truth about no religious connection, lying when claiming no political connection.

Also, brother didn't like his shooter brother. Also defensive about brother's "work history".

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (3myMJ)

106 WOKE NEEDS TO BE KICKED OUT ON HIS ASS

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (FKrah)

107 86 26 I'm telling you, the Left thinks that silencers are like in the movies and you can send out a Warthog with silencers screwed onto the guns and it can take out a hillside of enemies without making a sound.

You'd need a coupla extra silencers for the engines.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (sGtp+)

I was at the Andrews AFB air show a few weeks ago & they had a B-2 doing flybys - you couldn't hear it until it was directly overhead.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (7HtZB)

108 >> President, she will never be.
Posted by: Rusty Yoda at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (toi7g)

Can you imagine the presser she would have given today as POTUS? *shudders* Sometimes God loves us and gives us far more nicer things than we deserve.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (hvf9s)

109 So, if that CNN Lawyer wants to characterize the victims as probable Trump supporters; would it be fair to suggest the gunman was a Hillary supporter?

The idiocy of the Left never ceases to amaze.

Posted by: Jimmy from Texas at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (P09P4)

110 Daddy's criminal record included bank robbery, automobile larceny and being a confidence man. No murder mentioned on the FBI poster.

He was thought to be pyscho and suicidal.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (ul9CR)

111 Woke Urbans at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

fk you , you little prick

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (FKrah)

112 I was at the Andrews AFB air show a few weeks ago & they had a B-2 doing flybys - you couldn't hear it until it was directly overhead.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (7HtZB)

what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (5y11N)

113 "And in conclusion, due to the unconscionable death and disease toll of alcohol, including hundreds of thousands of alcohol related deaths every year, we have no choice but to ban alcohol!"

"Madame Hillary? My God she's passed out."

*sounds of furious face-slapping followed by sound of one-shoed old drunk being hauled into a waiting SUV*

Posted by: DNC 2018 at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (0tN2W)

114 88 Seeing photos of all those fat chicks running in short skirts and cowboy boots, you had to be rooting at least a little for the shooter.
Posted by: Woke Urbans at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

How about no.

This is not the time to start with the hambeast crap.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (WDCYi)

115 106 WOKE NEEDS TO BE KICKED OUT ON HIS ASS
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (FKrah)




When sock puppeting is too subtle, it does not work.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (ujg0T)

116 Bye Woke

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (FZYNt)

117 Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (QDnY+)

The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (NgKpN)

118 People keep mentioning the planes he owned, and the fact that he didn't have much official employment on record.

It occurs to me, just as a matter of speculation, having lived in the southwest myself, that a man with a small plane can earn a really nice cash income by making a few low level flights across the border each year. Lots of places to avoid radar between the hills down near Yuma if you can fly under 100'. Head up the Colorado river valley, takes you straight to Vegas.

just sayin'.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (k1TUh)

119 And now for something completely different:

Sex change regret: Gender reversal surgery is on the rise, so why aren't we talking about it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (Nwg0u)

120 86 26 I'm telling you, the Left thinks that silencers are like in the movies and you can send out a Warthog with silencers screwed onto the guns and it can take out a hillside of enemies without making a sound.

You'd need a coupla extra silencers for the engines.
Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017

*
*
It's possible (though I wouldn't bet on it) that Skankles knows guns can't be completely silenced. But she knows her base is a-skeered of guns, and probably doesn't know about silencers/suppressors. These tweets are calculated to scare them and stir them up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (PFlOK)

121 I think "Woke Urbans" is a sock that forgot his /sarc tag.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (7HtZB)

122

God almighty I hope she manages to hold control of the democratic party and run again in 2020

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (lKyWE)

123 If Bill would have spent more time putting his silencer into Hillary instead of young interns, we wouldn't be plagued by this nasty drunken whore.

Posted by: Fritz at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (2Mnv1)

124 At this point, Hillary is only qualified to pontificate about two topics:

1. Adult diapers
2. Drinking before noon

Posted by: MacGruber at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (sgrzZ)

125

Yeah, that hash is wicked familiah.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (f7hW7)

126 Posted by: Woke Urbans at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (TOk1P)


Come on, people.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (TOk1P)

127 Whats wrong with being photographed holding a gun?Lots of us shoot and I bet have pictures of themselves holding a gun.

Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (rmVvL)

128 >>I know it was super foolish, but the guy at the concert defiantly giving the finger to the shooter warmed my heart a little.

Heh, yeah. Not as effective as "F#$@ you, I'm Millwall!" to distract the terrorist, but I like the spirit!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (W+vEI)

129 A silencer/suppressor is just a pipe with baffles why is a pipe with baffles (muffler) so threatening?

Posted by: USNtakim at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (0OmEj)

130 110 Daddy's criminal record included bank robbery, automobile larceny and being a confidence man. No murder mentioned on the FBI poster.

He was thought to be pyscho and suicidal.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (ul9CR)


So ... a registered Dem?

Would an FBI poster mention murder, as it's not a Federal crime?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (SRKgf)

131 112 I was at the Andrews AFB air show a few weeks ago & they had a B-2 doing flybys - you couldn't hear it until it was directly overhead.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (7HtZB)

what?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (5y11N)

Seriously. I couldn't hear it until it was right over me.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (7HtZB)

132 88 Seeing photos of all those fat chicks running in short skirts and cowboy boots, you had to be rooting at least a little for the shooter.
Posted by: Woke Urbans at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (TOk1P)

121 I think "Woke Urbans" is a sock that forgot his /sarc tag.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (7HtZB)




Yah. I read it and thought "Sock". But it is subtle.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (ujg0T)

133 So, once again, the sack of flesh that has NEVER DONE ANYTHING RIGHT IN HER LIFE is telling us what we need to do.

It's time we start asking the media: Why the hell do you even encourage the old pissbag?

Posted by: Angrier Than Hell at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (wo3jg)

134 Vodka & prune juice - I call it the Pile Driver.
Posted by: josephistan
________

I like Pile Driversh too! But I substitute tequila for the prune juice. It tastes better that way.

Posted by: DistHillary at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (j+dfT)

135 I seriously think Hillary has deluded herself into believing she actually won and is President. She is like Johnny Weissmuller running around the nursing home thinking he is actually Tarzan.
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (OD2ni)


You've produced some disturbing mental images of Curb Dive, clad in animal skins from not large enough critters, riding an overtaxed jungle animal toward a horrified viewer.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (y7DUB)

136

That hash is a regular. A good guy.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (f7hW7)

137 >>At this point, Hillary is only qualified to pontificate about two topics:

1. Adult diapers
2. Drinking before noon
- - -



3. Losing
4. Graft

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (W+vEI)

138 When sock puppeting is too subtle, it does not work.
Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (ujg0T

ugh, was it just a sick humor joke ?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (FKrah)

139 Has Ambassador Christopher Stevens responded to Hillary's tweet?

Posted by: ShainS at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (ysII6)

140 @130
Add rape and there'd be a BOLO for Bill Clinton.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (0tN2W)

141 Sex change regret: Gender reversal surgery is on the rise, so why aren't we talking about it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (Nwg0u)


I love rhetorical questions.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (SRKgf)

142 A few weeks ago I worked with a local armorer who wanted to measure the decibels of suppressed rifles. using subsonic ammo, he fired a nicely equipped 10/22 suppressed. The action made more noise than the shot. But this remember -the caliber .22 subsonic.

Also ran a MP5 suppressed (shot semi as well as full auto) along with suppressor foam. Around 110 decibels suppressed. While tolerable without hearing protection, it certainly isn't quiet.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)

143 127 Whats wrong with being photographed holding a gun?Lots of us shoot and I bet have pictures of themselves holding a gun.
Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (rmVvL)

I have plenty of photos of myself holding historic firearms at re-enactments & such.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (7HtZB)

144 Dear everyone:

I'd like to throw out the wild-ass suggestion that maybe we're dealing with a generic crazy/evil man and the ideological lens that EVERYTHING MUST GO THROUGH NOW is N/A.

Having said that, I'd like for the Bollard Whisperer to please keep talking for blatantly political reasons.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (B+qrE)

145 (TOk1P)


so I should apologise now?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (FKrah)

146 Would an FBI poster mention murder, as it's not a Federal crime?

Hmm, good question. I thought the FBI listed every known crime regardless of where committed?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (ul9CR)

147 121 I think "Woke Urbans" is a sock that forgot his /sarc tag.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (7HtZB)

Probable, but the whole 'fat people' thing is a bugaboo for plenty of people (it's one of PJW's bigger ones).

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (WDCYi)

148 Anybody ever read Point of Impact, written by Stephen Hunter.


No..no reason that I asked, in particular.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (EyPfd)

149 141 Sex change regret: Gender reversal surgery is on the rise, so why aren't we talking about it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (Nwg0u)

I love rhetorical questions.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (SRKgf)

Sort of reinforces the argument that the problem is between the ears and not the knees.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)

150 Millions of US citizens take Hillary's statements as gospel.

Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (kQ364)

151 Shooter now being reported as owning up to 30 weapons.

Weapons recovered in hotel room apparently include some AR's converted illegally to full auto.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (NMCva)

152 shit

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (FKrah)

153 129
A silencer/suppressor is just a pipe with baffles why is a pipe with baffles (muffler) so threatening?
Posted by: USNtakim at October 02, 2017 01:52 PM (0OmEj)

IIRC the first suppressor was invented by the guy who patented the first car muffler (or vice-versa).

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (UBzPO)

154

Because those images can be pulled out on days like this and Fake News can make it seem it was YOU who shot all those people.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (f7hW7)

155 So the pressers keep urging people to donate blood, and recommend United Blood Service. I swear I haven't heard one mention of the Red Cross. Red Cross suddenly on people's crap list?

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (hvf9s)

156 >>>ugh, was it just a sick humor joke ?

My comment from earlier in the morning is validated more and more as the day progresses.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (lqd9d)

157
There is an interesting story of the rifle used in the old tv show the rifleman that had to be modified basically firing the weapon as it was cocked so that you could see Chuck fire rapidly. That modification in real life is illegal.*


*not that criminals care.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (r+sAi)

158 The internet has changed people. Many have gotten very ugly and non-compassionate.

There's some kind of strange separation from our fellows. It's disturbing.

Is this also where the 10 mile meme came from?

Cause I missed the genesis of that.

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (3myMJ)

159 149 Sort of reinforces the argument that the problem is between the ears and not the knees.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)

And maybe if these people would be told up front that they can't stay on hormones forever, they'd gain some perspective.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (WDCYi)

160 Imagine how many lives would have been spared if they hadn't been playing music.

#BanNoise

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (IxGEr)

161 Not sure if the B2 sound post is sarc or not but speed of sound is 1100 ft/sec (750mph), those things probably fly by at twice that (1500 mph) so yeah you wouldn't hear it before you saw it.

Posted by: rammajamma at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (AjNMO)

162 Shooter now being reported as owning up to 30 weapons.

Only 30?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (60v4h)

163 shit

I can try, if you really think it will help.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (IcT7t)

164 Someone should ask her how many of the victims are deplorable. But no one will cuz leftism.

Posted by: Mega at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (X6KVF)

165 146 Would an FBI poster mention murder, as it's not a Federal crime?

Hmm, good question. I thought the FBI listed every known crime regardless of where committed?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (ul9CR)



I have no idea. I was just asking. I could imagine a poster saying "Wanted by the FBI" would only recite crimes over which the FBI had jurisdiction.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (SRKgf)

166 (TOk1P)


so I should apologise now?
Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (FKrah)


Don't be silly.

There are people who are thinking that. You know it, I know it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (TOk1P)

167 158 Is this also where the 10 mile meme came from?

Cause I missed the genesis of that.
Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (3myMJ)

That started with the confederate statues being pulled down, and posters here being told to STFU because they don't live within 10 miles of where the statues are.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (WDCYi)

168 ok, this is obviously yanking my brain. i'll check out for the rest of the day.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (FKrah)

169 Gotta love Grammy H, ask her about the Chicago Duck Hunt LARPers.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (SzZnW)

170 144 Dear everyone:

I'd like to throw out the wild-ass suggestion that maybe we're dealing with a generic crazy/evil man and the ideological lens that EVERYTHING MUST GO THROUGH NOW is N/A.

Posted by: Circa


That's CRAZY TALK!

Everything in the universe is on the left-right spectrum. Everything.

Even in quantum mechanics. All particles are either

up/down
strange/charm
left/right

THE LEFT/RIGHT SPECTRUM IS AN INHERENT PART OF EXISTENCE, PEOPLE!

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (DQ4Fv)

171 161 Not sure if the B2 sound post is sarc or not but speed of sound is 1100 ft/sec (750mph), those things probably fly by at twice that (1500 mph) so yeah you wouldn't hear it before you saw it.
Posted by: rammajamma at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (AjNMO)

And if you see it and still have air in your lungs, just wait. You won't much longer. Wingman coming up to mop up.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (jxbfJ)

172 151 Shooter now being reported as owning up to 30 weapons.

Weapons recovered in hotel room apparently include some AR's converted illegally to full auto.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (NMCva)

So his brother basically didn't know shit about him.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

173 137 >>At this point, Hillary is only qualified to pontificate about two topics:

3. The use of analog systems in large-model human-animatronic pneumatic actuation, and the benefits of fluid-compressed Facial Action Coding System "emotions."

She also knows the answer to Gary Numan's question: Yes, 'friends' are electric.

Posted by: Zod at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (Bdeb0)

174 pointing out they are Trump supporters ... points to "not likely it is a deplorable gun nut Trumper trying to kill liberals". mostly


Posted by: illiniwek at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (yKAUL)

175 The dude in the picture looks like Donald Trump Jr.

Its all the proof of motive we need.




Posted by: Mika Brzinskitits at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (WLK0w)

176 burt it was you?

oh shit. I'm sorry.

I am going to try to clear my head.

sorry

and yeah I saw them on news feeds.

anyway sorry.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (FKrah)

177 We're all caught up in the idea that there must be some "motive" that we can understand. But Crazee doesn't need a motive, other than The Voices in his Head told him This was a Good Idea.

What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people. Unless he wrote something down, or communicated something to someone we can believe, what we know now may be all we ever know.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (k1TUh)

178 Yeah, I said before you can completely disregard anything the brother stated. He didn't really know his brother at all.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (NMCva)

179 >>The dude in the picture looks like Donald Trump Jr.


Yea, that's what I said up thread. Like exactly like Don Jr.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (/tuJf)

180 172 151 Shooter now being reported as owning up to 30 weapons.

Weapons recovered in hotel room apparently include some AR's converted illegally to full auto.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (NMCva)

So his brother basically didn't know shit about him.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

And that shouldn't be surprising considering the distance (actual) between them.

Hell, my siblings, having been recently estranged from them, have no clue about me and mine.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (jxbfJ)

181 101 78 The crazy thing about the name "Mandalay Bay" is that the city of Mandalay, in Burma, is hundreds of miles inland, and doesn't have a bay and is not a seaport town at all. Who cam up with that title?

Ban poorly named casinos!
Posted by: liberal who tries to ban something or other after every tragedy at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (DQ4Fv)


Shhh! Oh you people who own maps.

I thought that about the old movie "Krakatoa - East of Java." Huh? Krakatoa is WEST of Java, unless you go all the way around the earth to come on Java from the other side.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (SRKgf)

There is a song that was popular that had a lyric about the south side of Detroit. In reality the south side of detroit is either the Detroit river or Windsor. There is no south side of Detroit!

Posted by: Chilling the most at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (9Ej78)

182
Hello Hillary, my old friend.
You're spouting crazy shit again.
Huma really needs to take your drink,
And give you a just a little more time to think.
So shut your mouth,
You senile leftist bore.
Speak no more.
And let us revel, in that you'll never, be POTUS.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (ikvbz)

183 Millions of US citizens take Hillary's statements as gospel.

Posted by: davidt at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (kQ364)




I'll bet Halley a lot of last names sure does

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (493sH)

184
I'd like to throw out the wild-ass suggestion that maybe we're dealing with a generic crazy/evil man and the ideological lens that EVERYTHING MUST GO THROUGH NOW is N/A.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (B+qrE)


There's a certain genetic component to the pure nasty psychotic angle. Son of a FBI Top 10 Most Wanted father? That's a tell.

Come prepared to kill hundreds with 10 rifles? Psycho.

Doesn't seem the type of sociable individual to put on a pussy hat and protest Trump with a bunch of others.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (EgwCt)

185 I saw Sex Change Regret open for this country music guy that had to run off the stage just last night

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (9F7aA)

186 You can read on the internet how to convert your AR to full auto. But it takes some skill and the right parts. The guy obviously knew what he was doing.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (NMCva)

187 What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people.
Posted by: Tom Servo


There was a rumor
about a tumor
nestled at the base of his brain.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (DQ4Fv)

188 She Who Shall Remain Nameless is always tweeting to her future primary voters. Ignorant blather will keep them happy.

CBS Legal Lady only reinforces my opinion of anything connected to MSM. Hope she has a good hijacked my account story ready to go.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (e1mEI)

189 People keep mentioning the planes he owned, and the fact that he didn't have much official employment on record.

It occurs to me, just as a matter of speculation, having lived in the southwest myself, that a man with a small plane can earn a really nice cash income by making a few low level flights across the border each year. Lots of places to avoid radar between the hills down near Yuma if you can fly under 100'. Head up the Colorado river valley, takes you straight to Vegas.

just sayin'.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Also a booking market for said products in Alaska

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (9TU00)

190 Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (NMCva)

So his brother basically didn't know shit about him.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (RD7QR)


Or he did. We'll see soon enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 02:01 PM (TOk1P)

191
What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people. Unless he wrote something down, or communicated something to someone we can believe, what we know now may be all we ever know.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (k1TUh)


He had a diary, he knew he was going insane

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:01 PM (lKyWE)

192 One thing about Hillary Clinton that's perfectly obvious but rarely mentioned:

The bitch is dumb as a fuckin' post.

Stupid.

Not possessed of normal human intelligence.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 02, 2017 02:01 PM (398bZ)

193 So, they all want even more of us dead ?

Huh. Who knew ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (z3Hmr)

194 162 Shooter now being reported as owning up to 30 weapons.

In Idaho we call that 'Tuesday.'

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (t3kPl)

195

btw, notice how hillary clinton is NOT accepting any teaching roles at a prestigious university?

I'm sure she's been offered several, yes?

But it's just not in her to actually do something like that. You know, deal with people and do something mundane.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (f7hW7)

196 Meremortal, the 10-miles away meme was from the august BSG, who just up thread a few items was patting himself on the back for something or other.

It was part of a package of profound observations connected to the idiotic hysteria over C'ville, and was part of a ridiculous effort to pooh-pooh the vile Soviet-style wave of vandalism against US history (Confederate statues).

The 10-mile thing is easily applied to other situations (you shouldn't care about anything happening more than 10 miles away), but the real highlight was the insight that Robert E. Lee didn't have much of a connection to C'ville (as a place). That goes in the AOSHQ hall of fame, when it's built/assembled.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (QDnY+)

197 I see no evidence of intent here.

Posted by: James "Integrity" Comey at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (0tN2W)

198 So his brother basically didn't know shit about him.

+++

Some families are like that. I live around the corner from one of my sisters, her kids. Couldn't tell you anything about what they're doing these days

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (9F7aA)

199 177 . . . What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people.
Posted by: Tom Servo
_____________

I've got voices in my head that tell me I should go do some shots.

They're really friendly voices. They've never let me down.

* stumbles toward almost empty handle of vodka *

Posted by: DistHillary at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (j+dfT)

200

btw, what did hillary clinton DO for ANY of the hurricane victims this Summer??

Where was she???

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (f7hW7)

201
Shhh! Oh you people who own maps.

You had maps? We had to scratch directions in the dirt with whatever fingers we were left.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (BWL+E)

202 I don't live within 10 miles of Washington D.C. either, but whatever.

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (3myMJ)

203 One last post

Larry Correia on his Monster Hunter blog has a post up on the proposed changes to the silencer law. Posted on 26 Sept.

http://monsterhunternation.com/

And to work I go. Ciao.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (ygSog)

204 I shoot with people who don't even measure the. Umber of guns they have. They measure by gun safes.

Most people don't understand that.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (NMCva)

205 Well I guess I know why that photo looks so much like Don Jr. It is Don Jr.

Nice subtle way of trying Trump to the shooting by our fair and balanced media.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

206 What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people. Unless he wrote something down, or communicated something to someone we can believe, what we know now may be all we ever know.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (k1TUh)


He had a diary, he knew he was going insane
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:01 PM (lKyWE)

------

Autopsy showed brain tumor, IIRC.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (8XRCm)

207 good thing for us, I do believe, is that Hillary not only wants to run again in 2020 but is pushing the idea that somehow Trump didn't legitimately win, that she was practically robbed of the presidency, so she can claim she's owed another run at the White House.

bad thing for us is that Ryan and McConnell would probably like to see Hill run again and win. think of all the fundraising they could do off of that. consultants for the GOPe would again be rolling in that green stuff. (No, not snot)

Donate 5 dollars to help us fight President Clinton's radical agenda!

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (ILitO)

208
There was a rumor
about a tumor
nestled at the base of his brain.


Did Jimi sing this?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (f7hW7)

209 186 You can read on the internet how to convert your AR to full auto. But it takes some skill and the right parts. The guy obviously knew what he was doing.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (NMCva)

And it all really depends on the make and model... some ARs are easier than others to 'convert'...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

210 Is 1 weapon part of or included in "up to 30"?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (IxGEr)

211 195

btw, notice how hillary clinton is NOT accepting any teaching roles at a prestigious university?

I'm sure she's been offered several, yes?

But it's just not in her to actually do something like that. You know, deal with people and do something mundane.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (f7hW7)

Teach what? How to Waltz? Bitch can't walk based on her 9/11 memorial performance. And her wandering eye and special glasses.

Teach ethics? Oh, I'd love to sit in on that class.

Comp Sci 205? Systems Administration and wiping?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (jxbfJ)

212 There was a rumor
about a tumor
nestled at the base of his brain.


That was Dr Seuss' diagnosis, iirc.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (60v4h)

213 208
There was a rumor
about a tumor
nestled at the base of his brain.

Did Jimi sing this?
Posted by: Soothsayer


No, it's from a Kinky Friedman song.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (DQ4Fv)

214 Posted by: an indifferent penguin at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (ikvbz)

That's beautiful.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (hMwEB)

215 My brother is getting over a detached retina. I knew nothing until my sister told me. And I get along with bro fine, he's just a private kind of guy.

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (3myMJ)

216 >>>That started with the confederate statues being pulled down, and posters here being told to STFU because they don't live within 10 miles of where the statues are.

#pearlclutchingdrama #exaggeratemuch

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (lqd9d)

217 The internet has changed people. Many have gotten very ugly and non-compassionate.



There's some kind of strange separation from our fellows. It's disturbing.



---

NOT just the internet.

In the past, the MSM was not as biased.

They not only encourage the hate, but they actively encourage it.

I don't know if that was widely done in the past.

/plus, pretty sure 50% of the voting pop here seems to be mentally ill right now.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (aT+Bx)

218
That was Dr Seuss' diagnosis, iirc.

Heh.
Famous oncologist, he was.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (f7hW7)

219 >>I shoot with people who don't even measure the. Umber of guns they have. They measure by gun safes.


First time I walked into my neighbor's place and saw 3 safes in the kitchen, I knew that guy had some guns.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (HYDPz)

220 146 Would an FBI poster mention murder, as it's not a Federal crime?

Hmm, good question. I thought the FBI listed every known crime regardless of where committed? "

Only crimes that have happened since everything got digitized. A lot of localities, due to cost, just blew off digitizing anything before the 90's, so a fair amount of those old records have just disappeared.

Don't ask me why I'm sure of that. But I am.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (k1TUh)

221 How did they Donald Trump Jr. to pose for that picture holding a gun??
Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (7uYFy)


Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (7uYFy)

222 https://genius.com/Kinky-friedman-the-ballad-of-charles-whitman-lyrics

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

223

Not possessed of normal human intelligence.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 02, 2017 02:01 PM (398bZ)


Luckily for us, also not possessed of any cunning. Just drunken evil.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (BWL+E)

224 >>btw, notice how hillary clinton is NOT accepting any teaching roles at a prestigious university?


They can't afford her.
You think she'd do that just for the prestige? Not when she and Bill are used to making $300K+ for a single speech.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (W+vEI)

225 burt it was you?

oh shit. I'm sorry.

I am going to try to clear my head.

sorry

and yeah I saw them on news feeds.

anyway sorry.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (FKrah)


Don't worry about it! I basically thought of the meanest thing some urban ass might say... might REALLY say, and typed it.

And yes, there are people who call themselves "woke."

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (TOk1P)

226 Hillary's mouth is bigger than her ass!

Posted by: R. DUKE at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (O2LSH)

227
It's funny how hillary clinton has done nothing for anyone is being given A Good Leavin' Alone by the Fake News.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (f7hW7)

228

Production military style semi-autos made/imported since the '80's and ongoing are specifically designed to not be retro-fittable with full auto parts. It takes a skilled armorer and machinist to be able to do so.

If you have $ for planes it would be much easier to just buy them from Mexico.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (t3kPl)

229 Honestly once you refine your knowledge of things like a trigger and sear, a person of average intellect can figure out how full auto works.

But a person of average intelligence would also. Ever go there.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (NMCva)

230 It's very possible that he was just batshit crazy. Most people that far gone usually are the homeless guys you see wandering around mumbling incoherent shit, although some work at MSNBC. He might have just been a crazy with enough money to do something like this.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (INJFV)

231 >>>Robert E. Lee didn't have much of a connection to C'ville

Robert E Lee had no connection to Charlottesville.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (lqd9d)

232 219 >>I shoot with people who don't even measure the. Umber of guns they have. They measure by gun safes.


First time I walked into my neighbor's place and saw 3 safes in the kitchen, I knew that guy had some guns.
Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (HYDPz)

And you knew you were with people within your tribe.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (jxbfJ)

233 First time I walked into my neighbor's place and saw 3 safes in the kitchen, I knew that guy had some guns.

+++

Nope. He was a safe collector

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (9F7aA)

234 Trish Regan just said "He was an accountant...he did work at Lockheed Martin (she left out it was for 3 years in the 80's), which might explain some of the weaponry."


Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (Enq6K)

235 What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (k1TUh)



Brain tumor, found on autopsy. He knew something was wrong, and had actually requested an autopsy to find out what it was, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (SRKgf)

236
btw, what did hillary clinton DO for ANY of the hurricane victims this Summer??

--

how dare you question her!
She tirelessly tweeted her criticism of Trump's response to the hurricanes.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (hMwEB)

237 anyway, didn't Obama put up a picture of him shooting a shotgun when he claimed "we go shooting at Camp David all the time"?

pic (cnn):

http://tinyurl.com/alvp3vz

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (ILitO)

238 AOS Style Guide: In the spirit of Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat, should it be "Stupid Typical Woke Urban"?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (ujg0T)

239 You had maps? We had to scratch directions in the dirt with whatever fingers we were left.

*****


We had maps tattooed on our backs. Which was a real bother when hiking alone.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (mvenn)

240 this group probably did include a lot of Trump supporters
---
Precisely the group that Mohammad Atta should have waited for, I still can't believe he didn't think before attacking a blue state.

Posted by: Mikey Moore at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (2mC6G)

241 >>>So his brother basically didn't know shit about him.<<<

This guy was into some shady shit. Pilot, professional gambler, hostile neighbor, illegal weapons. I wonder how often this guy was flying and to where. Cargo? Cartels?

Posted by: Fritz at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (2Mnv1)

242 How did they Donald Trump Jr. to pose for that picture holding a gun??

Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (7uYFy)

Trump's kids were encouraged to learn to shoot.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (T71PA)

243 Ha! Folks, no comment possible, just luxuriate in #231.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (QDnY+)

244 Nope. He was a safe collector
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (9F7aA)

Of course. If he kept that many guns in the kitchen, he'd be an unsafe collector.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

245 A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of large numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing. It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.


Posted by Ace at 12:42 PM Comments

Of course I'm pulling this quote up from the last thread, but Ace, you know that's never going to happen.
One side wishes to be left alone, and the other demands capitulation. That's why we've moved so far left the last 50 years, and much of it in the last 8. That level of success has brought them arrogance, and Trump has brought them insanity.

Generally not a good combo.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (z79tQ)

246 Funny, I knew who "10 miles" was without knowing anything else.

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (3myMJ)

247 I assume casinos will be forced to make changes. Theories as to what they'll do? Thicker window glass? More security and cameras?

The whole point of a casino is to encourage impulse stopping and gambling, I can't see them setting up metal detectors and intrusive security screenings in and out of hotels. But then I could never have envisioned that for airports either pre 9/11.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (hvf9s)

248 "Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (t3kPl)"

I could go on Gunbroker right now or, say, a pawn or old gun shop in Vegas to fund the right lower.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (NMCva)

249
In the spirit of Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat

Have you been around here that long to remember STFM?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (f7hW7)

250 It's very possible that he was just batshit crazy. Most people that far gone usually are the homeless guys you see wandering around mumbling incoherent shit, although some work at MSNBC. He might have just been a crazy with enough money to do something like this.

It's possible that he had insanity in his earpiece and no one would stop that G-D hammering.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (IxGEr)

251 Brain tumor, found on autopsy. He knew something was wrong, and had actually requested an autopsy to find out what it was, IIRC.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (SRKgf)

He should have requested an X-Ray.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (7uYFy)

252 Trish Regan just said "He was an accountant...he did work at Lockheed Martin (she left out it was for 3 years in the 80's), which might explain some of the weaponry."

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (Enq6K)
--------------

So I guess we're all supposed to know that in the 80s Lockheed Martin issued weapons to its accountants. Good to know.

Posted by: bluebell at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (UoSKV)

253 >>How did they Donald Trump Jr. to pose for that picture holding a gun??

Don Jr is supposedly an avid gun rights supporter and has spoken before and on behalf of 2nd Amendment rights and the NRA. There are lots of pictures of him with guns.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (/tuJf)

254 I always use a 22 to flip pancakes, but that's just me

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (9F7aA)

255 I think Hillary is funny. She makes me belly-laugh. I wish she would be president some day. Then there would be world peace.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (EaQ6/)

256 It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.


--

No.

Sinistra delenda est.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (hMwEB)

257

Can you believe it's the end of 2017?

And we've (Me) been doing this since 2005.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (f7hW7)

258 Lunatic drives a car through a crowd of pedestrians (e.g., Nice, France).

Leftwing response: "Let no innocent person escape!!! Confiscate everyone else's license!"

Their reaction to any of these events is Always to pivot and attack our Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Beverly at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (lHnds)

259 Have you been around here that long to remember STFM?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (f7hW7)




Affirmative.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (ujg0T)

260 They just can't help themselves. One of my lefty acquaintances posted, "Maybe it's time to take a look at our Thoughts and Prayer laws." The bodies aren't even cold yet. They are freaking ghouls.

Posted by: no good deed at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (eIQHF)

261 So I guess we're all supposed to know that in the 80s Lockheed Martin issued weapons to its accountants. Good to know.
Posted by: bluebell at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (UoSKV)

-----

Actually..... I didnt think the Accountant was a terrible movie.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

262 >>> Hillary's mouth is bigger than her ass!

Not going to ask how you know that.

Posted by: fluffy at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (U0v/A)

263 Re: Hagzilla -- can we shove it up her butt and break it off yet?

Posted by: Beverly at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (lHnds)

264 161 Not sure if the B2 sound post is sarc or not but speed of sound is 1100 ft/sec (750mph), those things probably fly by at twice that (1500 mph) so yeah you wouldn't hear it before you saw it.
Posted by: rammajamma at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (AjNMO)

They won't let planes fly supersonic over crowds, and there wasn't a sonic boom, either.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (7HtZB)

265 valid points about the sound level of a silencer aside:

Is Hillary suggesting the crowd, en masse, figured out the location of the sniper from 1600-odd feet away or whatever it was, plus 34 stories, and selected the correct direction to flee/hide based upon that information?

How on earth *could* there have been more casualties? This was a maximum effect event. Fuck you, Hillary.

And just so you know, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods probably knew from what direction they were taking fire. You were less concerned about casualties then.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (yL25O)

266 262 >>> Hillary's mouth is bigger than her ass!

Not going to ask how you know that.
Posted by: fluffy at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (U0v/A)




Huma would know.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (ujg0T)

267 177 We're all caught up in the idea that there must be some "motive" that we can understand. But Crazee doesn't need a motive, other than The Voices in his Head told him This was a Good Idea.

What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people. Unless he wrote something down, or communicated something to someone we can believe, what we know now may be all we ever know.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017

*
*
Years ago I read of a case in the book about the Medical Examiner of NYC, Milton Helpern. A Pacific WWII vet came back home, was acting a little oddly, until he suddenly killed himself (and maybe some of his family? Can't recall) with his souvenir Samurai sword. At autopsy it turned out he wasn't insane, he had lobar or "walking" pneumonia, which can interfere with the blood supply to the brain and cause you to have delusions just as schizophrenia can.

I'm not saying this could be true here. For one thing, I don't know if this LV shooter could have planned and carried out his atrocity while suffering from walking pneumonia. The WWII vet had been walking around for a while before he committed his murder/suicide -- without anybody thinking he was more than a little "reserved" after his grueling tour of duty in the Pacific.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (PFlOK)

268 So have they found his confederate flag and MAGA hat yet?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (O2RFr)

269
so where's Laurie David's Cerviz been?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (f7hW7)

270 Yeah it wouldn't be a stretch to just think the guy was batshit crazy and simply found a target of opportunity. The rest could be incidental.

But today's crazy usually has a political backstop.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (NMCva)

271 235 What was Charles Whitman's motive in 1966, in the "UT Tower? No one ever really new, other than his voices told him he should go shoot people.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (k1TUh)


Brain tumor, found on autopsy. He knew something was wrong, and had actually requested an autopsy to find out what it was, IIRC."

So, time to put John McCain in protective custody?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (k1TUh)

272 I wish that I knew what John McCain was going to say about all of this. Then the issue would be settled for me.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (EaQ6/)

273 209 186 You can read on the internet how to convert your AR to full auto. But it takes some skill and the right parts. The guy obviously knew what he was doing.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:00 PM (NMCva)

And it all really depends on the make and model... some ARs are easier than others to 'convert'...
Posted by: Don Q. at October 02, 2017 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

I know one crazy m'f'er that is scary mechanically smart. He cannot spell but I have no doubt in my mind he could change an A/R.
You can be highly intelligent and crazy. Being one does not negate the other.

The crazy guy I know, he gives me the creeps and I don't want to get on his bad side.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (Ri/rl)

274
I assume casinos will be forced to make changes. Theories as to what they'll do? Thicker window glass? More security and cameras?


I don't know what they can do,casinos already have very tight security.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (lKyWE)

275 Well he coulda come in here and shot us all up with Bitbullets.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (9HRiP)

276 My dad was an accountant and all he had was a trusty old Winchester. He should've worked for Lockheed Martin.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (ul9CR)

277 Beverly, that's exactly the spirit of one of the best anti-gun-grabbing jokes - "gun control is wanting to respond to drunk driving accidents by taking away *everyone else's* driver's licenses".


Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (QDnY+)

278 so where's Laurie David's Cerviz been?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (f7hW7)

------

...... at the back of her vagina ? ?

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

279
157
There is an interesting story of the rifle used in the old tv show the rifleman that had to be modified basically firing the weapon as it was cocked so that you could see Chuck fire rapidly. That modification in real life is illegal.*


*not that criminals care.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 01:55 PM (r+sAi)






Had a cap gun lever action rifle as a kid that had the Rifleman mod. A little pivoting sheet metal tab on the trigger guard that hit the trigger when flipped up.

The problem was the cost for a strip of caps.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 02, 2017 02:12 PM (eXA4G)

280 Not sure if the B2 sound post is sarc or not but speed of sound is 1100 ft/sec (750mph), those things probably fly by at twice that (1500 mph) so yeah you wouldn't hear it before you saw it.
Posted by: rammajamma at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (AjNMO)

They won't let planes fly supersonic over crowds, and there wasn't a sonic boom, either.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 02:10 PM (7HtZB)

I'm sure a lot of folks are thinking this but the B2 can't go supersonic.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at October 02, 2017 02:12 PM (T71PA)

281 That was Dr Seuss' diagnosis, iirc.

Heh.
Famous oncologist, he was.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:04 PM (f7hW7)


And apparently known white supremacist.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (493sH)

282 As problematic as PDJT is at times, I wake-up every single morning joyful and grateful that this rancid piece of pig shit wrapped in a pantsuit isn't POTUS.

Every. Single. Morning.

Posted by: DocJ at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (NYS7S)

283 248 "Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (t3kPl)"
I could go on Gunbroker right now or, say, a pawn or old gun shop in Vegas to fund the right lower.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (NMCva)

Yup. And then machine out that pesky block and drill a few holes and voila!

But you are not most people my friend...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (t3kPl)

284 My grandfather worked at Lockheed for ~40 years and they never gave him any weapons. Hell be disappointed when he finds out.

Posted by: John Marston at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (SkuXa)

285 Occam's Razor demands that Stephen Paddock must have hated both kinds of music ... country and western.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (ckI7j)

286 I don't know what they can do,casinos already have very tight security.
---

Actually, this could have been done from any kind of high rise building. A hotel, an office complex, a high rise apartment.

I don't really see how this could ever be stopped, unless we start breeding and training millions of gun sniffing German Shepards.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (aT+Bx)

287 Sooth, good question - LDC was a very good commenter, he'd post little snippets from around the web that were interesting and didn't get much attention elsewhere. Nice vicious dark sense of humor, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:14 PM (QDnY+)

288 WHOA: there's a photo of a man at an anti-Trump rally wearing a pink pussy hat, on Pamela Geller's site, which has been flagged as possibly being this guy.

We may be looking at an unhinged leftwinger, driven insane by constant incitement to hate, like that fellow who shot the Republican Congressmen playing baseball.

Posted by: Beverly at October 02, 2017 02:14 PM (lHnds)

289 Dangit Sarah Huckabee Sanders! Don't choke up during your presser or I'll star tearing up too. Bringing a good mix of emotion and duty to this.

Aaaaaaand we have a gun control question right out of the gate. Screw you WH press corps. Her answer to him is perfect.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:14 PM (hvf9s)

290 278 so where's Laurie David's Cerviz been?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (f7hW7)

------

...... at the back of her vagina ? ?


I'm dyin'!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (ul9CR)

291
Nice vicious dark sense of humor, too.


Very pithy.
Solid anti-establishment, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (f7hW7)

292 268 So have they found his confederate flag and MAGA hat yet?
Posted by: It's me donna


Give us a little time! Soon, very soon.

Posted by: leftist spin machine at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (DQ4Fv)

293 As problematic as PDJT is at times, I wake-up every single morning
joyful and grateful that this rancid piece of pig shit wrapped in a
pantsuit isn't POTUS.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Posted by: no good deed at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (eIQHF)

294 There's a shit ton of trade shows in Vegas (gee I wonder why lol) Security is probably used to seeing guys cart all kinds of shit into their rooms. (aside from hookers)

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (INJFV)

295 244 Nope. He was a safe collector
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:07 PM (9F7aA)

Of course. If he kept that many guns in the kitchen, he'd be an unsafe collector.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

Well.... you know... there seem to be a lot of people who believe in the flying spaghetti Monster....

soooo... if they DO happen to be right...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (NgKpN)

296
Is that where the cervix is?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (f7hW7)

297 Now you reminded me of "Blue Thunder" and "Whisper Mode".

Roy Scheider could fly a helicopter right up next to a high rise balcony and nobody inside could hear a thing. That was real, wasn't it???

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (k1TUh)

298 How did they Donald Trump Jr. to pose for that picture holding a gun??
Posted by: JoeF. at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (7uYFy)
.........
Here's a whole gallery...

http://tinyurl.com/yaptm3pt

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (so+oy)

299
So it's near the anus, then.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (f7hW7)

300 "those things probably fly by at twice that (1500 mph)"

Nope. B2 is not supersonic.

Posted by: Chris M at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (eAZVt)

301 284 My grandfather worked at Lockheed for ~40 years and they never gave him any weapons. Hell be disappointed when he finds out.
Posted by: John Marston at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (

I know people that worked for Lockheed Martin/Marietta. I'm not sure if they still have contracts at VAFB but you have to pass a background and psych test to work on base.

One guy that worked at the base and passed all the tests got in a bar fight last year and came back to the bar and murdered someone. He shot the wrong guy too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (Ri/rl)

302
Female anatomy frightens and confuses me.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (f7hW7)

303 Would've been nice if Jason Aldean yelled into the wireless mic while running away "EVERYBODY RUN FOR YOUR LIVES - YOUR BEING SHOT AT!" .

Posted by: D-FENS at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (q1ack)

304 Anybody checked out Paddock's father? He was on the FBI most wanted list for violent bank robberies and was described as a "psychopath".

He also tried to run down a federal agent with a car. In Las Vegas.

As of now, I'm leaning toward the son also being a bug fuck nuts fan of violence.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (/tuJf)

305 284 My grandfather worked at Lockheed for ~40 years and they never gave him any weapons. Hell be disappointed when he finds out.
Posted by: John Marston


My uncle worked at Lockheed and they handed out ICBMs as party favors every Christmas. Everyone knows that.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (DQ4Fv)

306
We may be looking at an unhinged leftwinger, driven insane by constant incitement to hate, like that fellow who shot the Republican Congressmen playing baseball.
Posted by: Beverly at October 02, 2017 02:14 PM (lHnds)

What? When did that happen?

Posted by: THIS... is CNN at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (7HtZB)

307 Female anatomy frightens and confuses me.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (f7hW7)

------

*Spock eyebrow**

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (8XRCm)

308 I want to wait until Hollywood has told me what to think about all of this, if you don't mind! Or maybe someone from the NFL will tell me why my racist skin has me wondering why a slow motion massacre, say like Chicago, or Detroit, or Cleveland, doesn't get anywhere near the same kind of coverage as a right-now kind of thing garners.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (EaQ6/)

309 WebMD:

The cervix is a cylinder-shaped neck of tissue that connects the vagina and uterus. Located at the lowermost portion of the uterus, the cervix is composed primarily of fibromuscular tissue. There are two main portions of the cervix ecto- and endo-

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (ul9CR)

310 294 There's a shit ton of trade shows in Vegas (gee I wonder why lol) Security is probably used to seeing guys cart all kinds of shit into their rooms. (aside from hookers)
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (INJFV)

I've shopped in Vegas and carried bags and bags to my room. No one bats an eye.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (Ri/rl)

311 Oooh Sarah mentioned Chicago's gun laws not reflected in the high rate of gun crime there. Like a boss. WH pressers are like a dog with a bone with this gun control nonsense.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (hvf9s)

312 The DNC should silence that hag.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (mcI77)

313
I think Hillary is talking about the Dean Martin movie the Silencers. If he had that movie on there's no telling what would have happened.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (493sH)

314 >>Female anatomy frightens and confuses me.


Honestly, I don't understand how most of it doesn't just fall out.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (HYDPz)

315 WebMD:

The cervix is a cylinder-shaped neck of tissue that connects the vagina and uterus. Located at the lowermost portion of the uterus, the cervix is composed primarily of fibromuscular tissue. There are two main portions of the cervix ecto- and endo-
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (ul9CR)

I'm glad we cleared that up.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (T71PA)

316 297 Now you reminded me of "Blue Thunder" and "Whisper Mode".

Roy Scheider could fly a helicopter right up next to a high rise balcony and nobody inside could hear a thing. That was real, wasn't it???


It was an offshoot of the shushcopter technology demonstrated in the well-known documentary "The Nude Bomb".

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (v3pYe)

317 Char!es Whitman was an accountant?!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (Nwg0u)

318
Vaginas have, get this, cul de sacs.

Priciest neighborhood in there.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (f7hW7)

319 Oooh Sarah mentioned Chicago's gun laws not reflected in the high rate of gun crime there. Like a boss. WH pressers are like a dog with a bone with this gun control nonsense.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:17 PM (hvf9s)



Only 500 plus murders so far.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (493sH)

320 Since Hillary LOST--whew--it's become more obvious that she has relied on staff. She's nothing without staff. She's kinda dumb.

Posted by: m at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (7n0Ay)

321 When I hear of a terrorist attack I don't think,let alone say,"aw the people killed are just left wingers after all"Apparently the left think differently.


https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/277222/

Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (rmVvL)

322 Is ISIS being opportunistic in claiming he is one of their recent converts?

Posted by: IC at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (a0IVu)

323
My grandfather worked at Lockheed for ~40 years and they never gave him any weapons. Hell be disappointed when he finds out.
Posted by: John Marston at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (SkuXa)



So did my dad,the only thing they gave him was ashtrays emblazoned with name of whatever program he was working on at the time.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (lKyWE)

324 "Aaaaaaand we have a gun control question right out of the gate. Screw you WH press corps. Her answer to him is perfect.
Posted by: LizLem"


I wish these a-holes would just be honest and say "Damn right we want to repeal the 2A" and then run on that. Instead we get this "Common sense gun control" that does nothing BS.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (OD2ni)

325 WHOA: there's a photo of a man at an anti-Trump rally wearing a pink pussy hat, on Pamela Geller's site, which has been flagged as possibly being this guy.

We may be looking at an unhinged leftwinger, driven insane by constant incitement to hate, like that fellow who shot the Republican Congressmen playing baseball.
Posted by: Beverly at October 02, 2017 02:14 PM


Pretty thin gruel thus far. As I pointed out earlier though, in that video if it is him, he had a NASA shirt on, he worked for a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, obviously a fan of aviation etc. It might be a coincidence and it might not even be him. It is interesting that he hit a country music festival though. It's not like country music is a bastion for progs. So it does seem like something.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (INJFV)

326 He also tried to run down a federal agent with a car. In Las Vegas.

As of now, I'm leaning toward the son also being a bug fuck nuts fan of violence.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (/

Crazy evil/sociopathic behavior may be hereditary.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (Ri/rl)

327 297 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:15 PM (k1TUh)

Eh "sorta"....

There have been great strides made in "stealthing" choppers and the Sikorsky MHX says it is "possible" but "not there yet"

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (SzZnW)

328 It was an offshoot of the shushcopter technology demonstrated in the well-known documentary "The Nude Bomb". Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (v3pYe)

I was thinking exactly that! Jinx!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (t3kPl)

329 "303 Would've been nice if Jason Aldean yelled into the wireless mic while running away "EVERYBODY RUN FOR YOUR LIVES - YOUR BEING SHOT AT!" .
Posted by: D-FENS at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (q1ack)"

Ever been shot at?

Notwithstanding he was being yanked and was confused, there is a picket factor in the confusion. Some people, understandably go into shock.

When I was trying to survive September 11th and can't even recall how many people I carried out who were in a state of shock or catatonic due to the mayhem and carnage.

So I won't be blaming anyone for their reaction to watching mass murder.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (NMCva)

330 It's all fun and games until somebody starts talking Mucus Plugs...

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (HYDPz)

331 it's like Scott Adams says, the GOP wants their guns to protect them from democrats who want to kill them.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (XhN8Z)

332 317 Char!es Whitman was an accountant?!!!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017

*
*
I thought he was a student at University of Texas at the time. Maybe studying accounting?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (PFlOK)

333 Yes, that's what a want from an accountant: thorough knowledge of GAAP, the tax code, and the ballistic characteristics of well-known sniping rounds.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

334 The DNC should silence that hag.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (mcI77)



Oh I hope not. I want Miss Havisham to run again in 2020

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (493sH)

335 496 is the body count, as of yesterday, in Chicago. For 2017.

No, I'm not exactly sure why there are not daily questions about this at the WH pressers, or vigils, or congressmen kneeling or "occupying" the well of the House, or statements from the pope.

A mystery, it is.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (QDnY+)

336 Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (EaQ6/)

337

Fake News CNN is gonna hold a fake town hall for the senile imbecile pelosi, this week. Should be fun.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (f7hW7)

338 Have I told you lately what a POS I am?

Posted by: Hayley Geftman-Goldschitz at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (vtcmf)

339 Ha! You think this guy's dad was bad news, check out MY dad!!!

Posted by: Woody Harrelson at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (k1TUh)

340
Well.... you know... there seem to be a lot of people who believe in the flying spaghetti Monster....

Isn't that a term atheists use to denigrate Christians?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (IqV8l)

341 >>Vaginas have, get this, cul de sacs.

>>Priciest neighborhood in there.



Gated Communities only divide us!

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (HYDPz)

342 Here's what I'm thinking-

1. He checked into the hotel on Sep 28
2. Be brought at least 10 weapons and a shipload of ammunition
3. He had a room facing on an outdoor venue for a scheduled event with many thousands of people expected to be in attencance..


Conclusions to be drawn?

It was planned. He expected to inflict a large number of casualties. He chose that hotel and that target. This was not a target of opportunity, it was chosen for a purpose- to make a statement.

Can we assume he linked Country Music Fans with Trump Supporters.

I'm guessing anti-Trumper, more like the Scalise shooter than anything else.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (mvenn)

343 If you want to get really paranoid, try this movie...

The Parallax View (1974)

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (ckI7j)

344 496 is the body count, as of yesterday, in Chicago. For 2017.




I'm pretty sure Chicago cleared 500 murders a couple of weeks ago. Don't sell us short

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (493sH)

345 >>Crazy evil/sociopathic behavior may be hereditary.

Yep. And the FBI poster I am reading states that the father was diagnosed, presumably by a doctor, as a psychopath.

He was also described as suicidal which seems to apply to his son as well.

Sometimes the right answer is the most obvious.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (/tuJf)

346
Would've been nice if Jason Aldean yelled into the wireless mic while
running away "EVERYBODY RUN FOR YOUR LIVES - YOUR BEING SHOT AT!" .
--

Yeah, I can't fault the guy.

Maybe if he was a combat veteran he would have thought of that, but I'm sure he was freaked out.

Also.. from the looks of the map, it would seem like the shooter was behind him. However, his crew people operating the sound/lighting were in the line of fire, and knew exactly what was happening. They probably took cover under their equipment (lighting and sound consoles are pretty large.)

/they knew what was happening because shows are consistent, and IF they had those kind of pyro hits, they would be in the same place in the show every night. So they would know immediately that something was wrong.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (aT+Bx)

347 I don't believe that Clinton writes her own tweets - which is kind of depressing in and of itself.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (PFy0L)

348 See, Hillary really WAS under sniper fire, it was silenced and you wingnuts just couldn't hear it! Hopefully she'll be quiet the rest of the day, the booze has probably already taken her to nappy time.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (INJFV)

349 Yeah it wouldn't be a stretch to just think the guy was batshit crazy and simply found a target of opportunity. The rest could be incidental.

But today's crazy usually has a political backstop.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (NMCva)


Crazy appears to use as a backstop whatever is in the current popular culture.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

350 337

Fake News CNN is gonna hold a fake town hall for the senile imbecile pelosi, this week. Should be fun.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (f7hW7)

Live? Are they nuts?

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 02:23 PM (7HtZB)

351 Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet.

Posted by: goon


At a guy in a 32nd story MG nest? Yeah, good luck with that...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 02:23 PM (AM1GF)

352
"Aaaaaaand we have a gun control question right out of the gate. Screw you WH press corps. Her answer to him is perfect.

Posted by: LizLem"





I wish these a-holes would just be honest and say "Damn right we
want to repeal the 2A" and then run on that. Instead we get this "Common
sense gun control" that does nothing BS.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (OD2ni)








Thing is, the commie cocksuckers aren't interested in "repealing" the 2A. That would actually be Constitutional. Unspeakably evil, but Constitutional.

They're trying to use the courts to do an unconstitutional end run around the 2A. Totally different kettle of fish.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 02, 2017 02:23 PM (eXA4G)

353 333 Yes, that's what a want from an accountant: thorough knowledge of GAAP, the tax code, and the ballistic characteristics of well-known sniping rounds.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

Doesn't every account know this?

Posted by: Christian Wollff, the Accountant at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (NgKpN)

354 The DNC should silence that hag.

-
But who will bell the cat?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (Nwg0u)

355 OMGGGG WH press guy repeating Hilary's stupid tweet on silencers. Can you even science bro? The stupid in that room, poor poor Sarah.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (hvf9s)

356 336
Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back
in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a
real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had
located the source. I would bet.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (EaQ6/)

You can't be serious. Shooting 32 floors up at highly-concentrated hotel room windows? What about people in their rooms above and below him?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (UBzPO)

357 347 Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (PFy0L)

Eh you'd have to have a heart of stone not to be a little happy Hillary! has interns for that while she is asses and elbows deep in Stoli and Huma.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (SzZnW)

358 The Today Show reported Paddock's father was on the FBI's 10 most wanted list in 1960 for automobile larceny, bank robbery, and confidence games. Dude was arrested for bank robbery committed elsewhere while in Las Vegas and was placed on the list after escaping from a federal prison.

Posted by: no good deed at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (eIQHF)

359 312 The DNC should silence that hag.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (mcI77)



NO! Let her keep quacking. Imagine the problem she poses for the DNC. She's trying to stay relevant, they're trying to shut her up.

With luck, we'll get a bruising multi-way primary fight in 2019.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (SRKgf)

360 Crazy evil/sociopathic behavior may be hereditary.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:19 PM (Ri/rl)

=========

Please tell me that comment is photoshopped!

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton 2020!!! at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (ysII6)

361 Briefly watched some of the presser. Sarah Sanders has the patience of a saint.

The MFM....

*types*

*deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (PY9jH)

362 "A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet."

And I can't imagine anything going wrong with a thousand pistols trying to hit a 32nd story apartment window from 400 yards away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (k1TUh)

363 I don't believe that Clinton writes her own tweets - which is kind of depressing in and of itself.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM

I bet it's a barrel of monkeys working for Hildo these days. Defeated, insular, bitter and drunk. (actually just typing that made me smile at the visual) I bet what's left of her staff must really dread going to work.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (INJFV)

364
Here's an incidental tip for everyone:

Never put cards with magnetic strips close to your phone device. It corrupts the info on the magnet.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (f7hW7)

365 355
OMGGGG WH press guy repeating Hilary's stupid tweet on silencers. Can
you even science bro? The stupid in that room, poor poor Sarah.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (hvf9s)
Sarah has the patience of Job dealing with these idiots on a daily basis. I would have chewed them out and been fired the next day.

Posted by: IC at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (a0IVu)

366 A live town hall will make it hard to hide Pelosi's raging dementia.

Posted by: John Marston at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (SkuXa)

367 Yes, that's what a want from an accountant: thorough knowledge of GAAP, the tax code, and the ballistic characteristics of well-known sniping rounds.

-
Bullet drop is a lot like depreciation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

368
Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (EaQ6/)


Even if I had a gun on me I doubt that I would start firing at hotel windows 300 yards away

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (lKyWE)

369 With luck, we'll get a bruising multi-way primary fight in 2019.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (SRKgf)



Now wouldn't that be lovely

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (493sH)

370 Female anatomy frightens and confuses me.

Posted by: Soothsayer frozen caveman gynecologist

***

Touched that up a little for you.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (mvenn)

371 >>At a guy in a 32nd story MG nest? Yeah, good luck with that...


They would have needed teams of Snipers on top of 4-5 buildings in the surrounding area, on overwatch, to even hold this to 10-15 killed.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (HYDPz)

372 Autos found

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (9HRiP)

373 Sometimes the right answer is the most obvious.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:22 PM (/tuJf)

Occam's razor.

I am frequently guilty of trying to rationalize crazy, and that's an impossible task.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (Ri/rl)

374 Track carefully how the media and libs view the deaths of country western fans. You want to talk about prejudice and hate, just watch and listen. The left truly does not understand that those of us on the right were as mortified by the shooting at the gay club in FL as this shooting.

Posted by: IanDeal at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (X/7wF)

375 Heartbreaking the deaths and casualties of this, thats what I'm trying to process, people go to concerts never to leave alive. No matterthe reasons it is pure evil.

Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (ghofu)

376 131 112 I was at the Andrews AFB air show a few weeks ago & they had a B-2 doing flybys - you couldn't hear it until it was directly overhead.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (7HtZB)

what?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2017 01:51 PM (5y11N)

Seriously. I couldn't hear it until it was right over me.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:53 PM (7HtZB)

------------

An old infantry expression: If you can here the jet firing at you, it's already too late to duck.

Posted by: Soona at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (ZAAkQ)

377 10011100 00011101010100100010 1010!

Posted by: Hillary Robot Clinton at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (qYCgM)

378 QuietMan, I'm just going off the heyjackass.com numbers currently posted. 496 homicides involving guns, as of yesterday.

Muldoon - a reasonable bit of speculation. Probably another failing on my part but in these incidents I rarely am burning with the need to know/figure everything out immediately. So little, and so little reliable, info, is usually available in the immediate aftermath. Hence the "24/48 hour rule".

On Hillz, I have called her (here and IRL) a "stupid, sociopathic criminal" for a long time now. Which is meant to be technically descriptive, not vituperative.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (QDnY+)

379 Hillary has a silencer of her own in the diaper she wears.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (nBr1j)

380

My daughter is supposed to go to ACL concert in Austin this weekend for her birthday

I dont want her to go now

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (kwNTG)

381 OMGGGG WH press guy repeating Hilary's stupid tweet on silencers. Can
you even science bro? The stupid in that room, poor poor Sarah.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM (hvf9s)
Sarah has the patience of Job dealing with these idiots on a daily basis. I would have chewed them out and been fired the next day.
Posted by: IC at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (a0IVu)
---------

And I liked her answer: "It's easy for Mrs. Clinton to put things out there, but we need to remember that the only one with blood on his hands right now is the shooter."

Posted by: bluebell at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (UoSKV)

382 Meanwhile in Portland, Oregon, they hired a new chief of police: a black woman about 5'2

Mayor Ted Wheeler hired Danielle Outlaw this summer following a national search. Wheeler said he and Outlaw are both dedicated to increasing diversity and embracing equity.

Me, I'd prefer my chief of police be most concerned and dedicated to justice, protecting the people, and keeping the peace, but I'm just old fashioned like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)

383 "364
Here's an incidental tip for everyone:

Never put cards with magnetic strips close to your phone device. It corrupts the info on the magnet."

Don't put them in your cervix either.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (k1TUh)

384 Heard word the weapons were AK-47s. Grains of salt.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (AM1GF)

385 372 Autos found
Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (9HRiP)

Do tell.

Also, great nic.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (t3kPl)

386 >>> Sarah has the patience of Job dealing with these idiots on a daily basis. I would have chewed them out and been fired the next day.
Posted by: IC at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (a0IVu)

I think I heard somewhere she has 3 young kids? Probably good training to deal with the spoiled entitled brats in the press corps.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (hvf9s)

387 349 Yeah it wouldn't be a stretch to just think the guy was batshit crazy and simply found a target of opportunity. The rest could be incidental.

But today's crazy usually has a political backstop.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (NMCva)


Crazy appears to use as a backstop whatever is in the current popular culture.

************

I'm going back and forth between nihilistic exit from a cruel world to maybe the hate filled lefties are right and the despised normies at a country concert are due for a lead sandwich, served courtesy of yet another liberal psychopath.

Enough liberal psychopaths are joining in with Paddock, like (((^Hayley^ Geftman-Gold)))-(((^Hayley^-**Lattman**))) (((bin **Latman** Gold-Geftman))) ...

so, again, the invitation to disarm is noted and rejected, especially in light of the lefts' murderous impulses/actions.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (XhN8Z)

388 A live town hall will make it hard to hide Pelosi's raging dementia.
--

I'm looking forward to a statement like this from San Fran Nan:

"It's the fault of our current president George W. Bush and Vice President McConnell that this has happened. Both have encouraged right wing violence against the left, and only peaceful organizations like Black Lives Matter and Antifa can keep Americans safe."

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (aT+Bx)

389
remember the Nazi episode of Star Trek?

They televised the Furor's addresses and cleverly hid his mouth with a microphone while dubbing in all the right words.

Fake News CNN can do that with pelousy.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (f7hW7)

390 Checked in way earlier to guarantee having a good view of the concert, I bet. Requested it. Bet the hotel staff knows

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (9F7aA)

391 374 Posted by: IanDeal at October 02, 2017 02:26 PM (X/7wF)

They are incapable of acknowledging that most on the right mean what they say and consider the left part of their tribe.

Most "RWNJs" would happily plunger the lethal injection on an Omar Mateen.....

it takes a LWNJ to get more "nuanced."

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (SzZnW)

392 57 WHAT IF THE SHOOTER HAD A THING THAT GOES UP!?!

Posted by: Hillary! at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (O5Q3r)


Hillary hasn't seen a THING THAT GOES UP in a very long time.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (QHqvr)

393 I was at the Andrews AFB air show a few weeks ago they had a B-2
doing flybys - you couldn't hear it until it was directly overhead.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (7HtZB)




Saw one fly over at an air show at the Marine Corps Air Station a few years ago.



Yuge dark shadow appeared over us, and then there it was. Spooky (and cool) as all hell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (PY9jH)

394 As of now, I'm leaning toward the son also being a bug fuck nuts fan of violence.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 02:16 PM (/tuJf)


I'm not seeing any information on wife, ex-wife, or kids. That's another tell.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (EgwCt)

395 Even if I had a gun on me I doubt that I would start firing at hotel windows 300 yards away

I would certainly hate to be in the room below his if people were shooting at him.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (QQ+il)

396 And I liked her answer: "It's easy for Mrs. Clinton to put things out there, but we need to remember that the only one with blood on his hands right now is the shooter."

Posted by: bluebell at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (UoSKV)


If Sarah would have added "Well...and Mrs. Clinton has some blood on her own hands too." I would vote for Sarah for Queen.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (Enq6K)

397 317
Char!es Whitman was an accountant?!!!


CHARLES WHITMAN WAS AN ACCOUNTANT?

Posted by: Al Sharpton (are we still doing thsi?) at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (FwRqg)

398
At a guy in a 32nd story MG nest? Yeah, good luck with that...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 02:23 PM (AM1GF)


Yeah, what's that, 400 yards? 300? 200? You know that's not a problem. And it would be so much better than just doing nothing, is my point. But I see what you are saying. Let's just run and be targets instead.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (EaQ6/)

399 Notice how the "deeply religious," "profoundly Christian" woman doesn't mention prayers or God.

The stupid in that room, poor poor Sarah.

In retrospect, its obvious that a mom of kindergardners should be the press secretary.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (39g3+)

400 I'm not seeing any information on wife, ex-wife, or kids. That's another tell.
--

Well, would YOU marry a dude with a psycho murderer father and have kids with him?

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)

401 Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (EaQ6/)


Even if I had a gun on me I doubt that I would start firing at hotel windows 300 yards away
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic


And 32 floors up.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (gR+IE)

402 Yup. And then machine out that pesky block and drill a few holes and voila!



But you are not most people my friend...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (t3kPl)

What pesky block is that?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (tbOMB)

403 Hayley "Rethuglicans deserve to die" Geftman-Goldschitz is an elite debutante daughter of a multi-millionaire and is an Ivy League hyper-priveleged limousine liberal whose wedding was covered as a manor social event by the NY Times:
'

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/weddings/28Lattman.html

Who are the aristocrats? Who are the peasants?

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (DQ4Fv)

404 Hillary hasn't seen a THING THAT GOES UP in a very long time.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (QHqvr)


*golf clap*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (PY9jH)

405 WHAT IF THE SHOOTER HAD A THING THAT GOES UP!?!

Posted by: Hillary! at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (O5Q3r)



It also had a thing in the stock which tells time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (493sH)

406 364 Here's an incidental tip for everyone:

Never put cards with magnetic strips close to your phone device. It corrupts the info on the magnet.


That's why God created pockets on *both* sides of your pants.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (sGtp+)

407 well, you learn something here every day

I thought the Cervix was a kind of Honda.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (ILitO)

408 Suspected it was going to be the usual, to the contrary from this morning, that the A-hole shot himself not the police.

Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (ghofu)

409 "They're trying to use the courts to do an unconstitutional end run around the 2A. Totally different kettle of fish.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur"


Thankfully, Heller makes it very difficult for them to do that anytime soon. Scalia did a masterful job at explaining the background and reason for the 2A.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (OD2ni)

410 And I liked her answer: "It's easy for Mrs. Clinton to put things out
there, but we need to remember that the only one with blood on his hands
right now is the shooter."



Posted by: bluebell at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (UoSKV)




Sarah should have added, "Mrs. Clinton is probably having flashbacks to her time dodging sniper fire in Bosnia."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (PY9jH)

411 398 Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (EaQ6/)

The best thing a pistoleer could do in that situation is find cover and move the wounded to cover....which *many* people did.....

Sooner or later someone will be able to explain why it took LVPD et al 1200 seconds to open the guy's door so he killed himself.....

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (SzZnW)

412 403 Hayley "Rethuglicans deserve to die" Geftman-Goldschitz is an elite debutante daughter of a multi-millionaire and is an Ivy League hyper-priveleged limousine liberal whose wedding was covered as a manor social event by the NY Times:
'

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/weddings/28Lattman.html

Who are the aristocrats? Who are the peasants?
Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (DQ4Fv)

*Sigh* I wouldn't mind having an aristocracy so much if they were actually competent.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (RD7QR)

413 Looked like the effective range was well under 250 yds.

You have to remember to account for the drop.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (HYDPz)

414 403 Hayley "Rethuglicans deserve to die" Geftman-Goldschitz is an elite debutante daughter of a multi-millionaire and is an Ivy League hyper-priveleged limousine liberal whose wedding was covered as a manor social event by the NY Times:
'

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/weddings/28Lattman.html

Who are the aristocrats? Who are the peasants?

***

this is a real let them eat cake moment for the democrats, party of the rich.

I hope that every donk has to answer for their members' vile hate.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (XhN8Z)

415
Yeah, what's that, 400 yards? 300? 200? You know that's not a problem. And it would be so much better than just doing nothing, is my point. But I see what you are saying. Let's just run and be targets instead.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (EaQ6/)


Better than accidently killing someone in the room below the one you're shooting at

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (lKyWE)

416 What is the holdover you need for 300 yards out and 32 floors up?

About 72 floors up?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (gR+IE)

417

There's a joke with the punchline "An answering cervix!", but I forgot the lead-up.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (f7hW7)

418 re 403: I believe that on Feb 29 she uses the name Hayley Rodham Clinton

and by the way, I'd really like to go out an buy a couple of good bagels right now. Delayed reaction.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 02, 2017 02:32 PM (ILitO)

419 My daughter is supposed to go to ACL concert in Austin this weekend for her birthday

I dont want her to go now
Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (kwNTG)

I am nervous at large gatherings now, ever since the bataclan. I look for all the exits. It's natural to try to exit the same way you entered.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (Ri/rl)

420 Hayley "Rethuglicans deserve to die" Geftman-Goldschitz is an elite debutante daughter of a multi-millionaire and is an Ivy League hyper-priveleged limousine liberal whose wedding was covered as a manor social event by the NY Times:
'

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/weddings/28Lattman.html

Who are the aristocrats? Who are the peasants?

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (DQ4Fv)



Has she ever figured out what her current last name is?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (493sH)

421 Honestly, there are so many ways to attack a music festival like that. I've heard reports that the shooter had an aviation license, so a plane crash would have potentially done more damage.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (itfg0)

Glad to see you here, Hat. Some folks were worried. Any of the the other Vegas 'rons safely accounted for?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (O848g)

422 367 Bullet drop is a lot like depreciation.

How does it compare to a box of chocolates?

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (sGtp+)

423 336 Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet.


A "death blossom" is no solution.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (ckI7j)

424 "Yeah, what's that, 400 yards? 300? 200? You know that's not a problem. And it would be so much better than just doing nothing, is my point. "

Yes, shooting innocent people and making a bad situation even worse than it was is always so much better than doing nothing.

It sucks to be a target - but when a shooter has got the drop on you, you ARE a target, and running is all you can do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (k1TUh)

425
It also had a thing in the stock which tells time

+++

Metronome?

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (9F7aA)

426 What pesky block is that?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (tbOMB)

Don't ask, don't tell.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (t3kPl)

427 Wonder if the NFL will use this as their way to get out of the kneeling spectacle. Owners can tell their teams this is NO time to kneel during the anthem.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (Enq6K)

428 Vaginas have, get this, cul de sacs.


Priciest neighborhood in there.



You're tellin me? Last one I got close to cost me half of my stuff.

Posted by: IP at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (UmSfZ)

429 Can you silence a gas-operated weapon? I'm not even sure if you can, since it would definitely change the barrel pressure-envelope, which is what drives the whole cycle.

Not that we'd expect this genius to know that...

Posted by: RobM1981 at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (qlIZh)

430 >.What is the holdover you need for 300 yards out and 32 floors up?



Depends where your Zero is.

But, at that angle and distance, effective range would be cut by 30% or more.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (HYDPz)

431 Don't read the WSJ comments. It will cost about 20 points off your IQ.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (NMCva)

432 416 What is the holdover you need for 300 yards out and 32 floors up?

About 72 floors up?

------------------------

No, if anything, you would "hold under" because you're already shooting uphill.

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (qC1Sy)

433 Sooner or later someone will be able to explain why it took LVPD et al 1200 seconds to open the guy's door so he killed himself.....

I can see a fair delay.
Get the call
Scramble to the scene
Call more people to verify the active shooter
Gather equipment
Gather at the hotel
Determine location of shooter
Move to shooter's location
Attempt to negotiate with shooter

That all takes time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (39g3+)

434 Benji, true, with one small problem. As Heller is not being applied or respected by lower courts (to date, with impunity - see the 9th, and the 4th), the little 'ol problem of lawlessness crops up yet again. The judicial variety, which as the travel order debacle shows, is the one type that "the system" has so far not confronted in any serious way.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (QDnY+)

435
Nood

Tami conjured it up!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (f7hW7)

436 Yeah, what's that, 400 yards? 300? 200? You know
that's not a problem. And it would be so much better than just doing
nothing, is my point. But I see what you are saying. Let's just run and
be targets instead.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (EaQ6/)

Sorry, but if you pulled out your gun and started shooting then you'd become the target, for every LEO within range.

Running is the best option. Curling up in the fetal position just makes you an easier target.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (UBzPO)

437 Glad to see you here, Hat. Some folks were worried. Any of the the other Vegas 'rons safely accounted for?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (O848g)
---------

AOP, thanks for highlighting the Hat's comment. I missed it, and have been looking for him. Glad he's okay. I hope all other morons are, too.

Posted by: bluebell at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (UoSKV)

438 I wonder if the shooter's estate will hire Aaron Hernandez's attorney and blame CTE.

Posted by: gewa76 at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (8HVXo)

439
Well, would YOU marry a dude with a psycho murderer father and have kids with him?

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (aT+Bx)


Some psychotics can be quite charming and engaging, when they choose to be. He doesn't seem to be that type.

I know a woman who married a guy who killed twice, stabbed some dude more than a dozen times. The marriage didn't last. But charming dude. When he chose to be. Other times you could see the murderous rage right under the surface.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (EgwCt)

440 Looked like the effective range was well under 250 yds.

You have to remember to account for the drop.
Posted by: garrett


When you are trying to hit a specific target, yes.
Not so much when you have 22,000 to 30,000 targets.
Gravity tends to take over for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (gR+IE)

441 someone call 2012 and let them know we found the female pete campbell.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (XhN8Z)

442 Let's just run and be targets instead.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (EaQ6/)

...

Look, you're not really being dragged too hard here yet, but your statement was moronic. Sell your guns.

That whole "know your target and what lies beyond it" applies even when you're under deadly fire. They would have pistols if they were even carrying. Impossible shot, plus out of range plus, plus... even with a properly set up rifle, and having information on range and elevation, you'd be shooting into a dark room at something you can't see. It's not a shot.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (yL25O)

443 407 well, you learn something here every day

I thought the Cervix was a kind of Honda.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (ILitO)


I thought it was a dish made of raw fish, spices and citrus.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (jxbfJ)

444 429 Posted by: RobM1981 at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (qlIZh)

"Yes" which is why we have gas buster charging handles for the AR it alters the pressure needed to cycle the action.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (SzZnW)

445 This story of a woman telling them they were all going to die needs to be pursued. More than one person is telling reporters this.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (zRZaJ)

446
How can you even account for windage when you're shooting at target 32 stories up?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (lKyWE)

447 Shooting up hill = already holding over.

Phrasing: it's essential.

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (qC1Sy)

448 Tami @427 - exactly. We'll see tonight, I guess. I'd bet at least $5 there will be some effort by ownership to exploit this incident to put the "anthem protest" genie back in the bottle.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (QDnY+)

449 "Sooner or later someone will be able to explain why it took LVPD et al 1200 seconds to open the guy's door so he killed himself....."

Sooner.

It's because only explosives could open that door, under those circumstances, and hotel security doesn't keep explosives on hand, for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (k1TUh)

450 FBN: Shooter bought more than 30 weapons and illegally converted AR-15.


They didn't say when and how long it took him to amass 30 weapons.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 02:37 PM (Enq6K)

451 It could have been Hillary doing the shooting and she would still attempt to politicize it and the media would still be glorifying her.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 02, 2017 02:37 PM (nBr1j)

452 >>When you are trying to hit a specific target, yes.
Not so much when you have 22,000 to 30,000 targets.


At full auto, the way he was firing, you couldn't even hope to use much in the way of optics unless you were shooting off a mechanical rest.

Even a static one would send your sight window all over the place.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 02:37 PM (HYDPz)

453 I was looking on Google maps this morning , didn't seem more than 200 yds but didn't have all parameter, but its easily found there.

Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2017 02:37 PM (ghofu)

454 Some psychotics can be quite charming and engaging, when they choose to be. He doesn't seem to be that type.

I know a woman who married a guy who killed twice, stabbed some dude more than a dozen times. The marriage didn't last. But charming dude. When he chose to be. Other times you could see the murderous rage right under the surface.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 02:35 PM (EgwCt)

Narcissistic sociopaths can be very charming.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:37 PM (Ri/rl)

455 429 Can you silence a gas-operated weapon? I'm not even sure if you can, since it would definitely change the barrel pressure-envelope, which is what drives the whole cycle.

Not that we'd expect this genius to know that...
Posted by: RobM1981 at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (qlIZh)

...

You can suppress semi and full auto weapons.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 02, 2017 02:37 PM (yL25O)

456 433 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (39g3+)

I agree the delay may be sane, *but* we saw a HEAVY LE presence on the strip even during daylight hours with no outdoor concert going on....

add in the armed contracts most casinos have and it is just *odd* IMHO.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:38 PM (SzZnW)

457 Those country music fans made a big mistake. They left their guns back in the trunk of the car. A little suppressing fire would have been a real good thing. I would bet that a thousand guys in that crowd had located the source. I would bet.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (EaQ6/)


Firearms aren't allowed at music festivals like this. They check everyone entering the venue.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2017 02:38 PM (itfg0)

458
It's because only explosives could open that door, under those circumstances, and hotel security doesn't keep explosives on hand, for obvious reasons.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (k1TUh)


I think they use explosives for the shock value also .It freezes the gunman for a second or two

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 02:39 PM (lKyWE)

459 449 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 02:36 PM (k1TUh)

I will pay attention, LVPD has had rapid response SWAT near the strip for years.....

*not* being a conspiracy nut either.....

just need to figure out what nuts and bolts need tightened.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 02:39 PM (SzZnW)

460 was at the Andrews AFB air show a few weeks ago & they had a B-2 doing flybys - you couldn't hear it until it was directly overhead.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:50 PM (7HtZB)

Back in the day, we used to have A-10's fly over our radar site for a "bubble check". They would pop up out of a valley and scream overhead about 75 feet above the ground. You didn't hear them until they were too close to make any difference if you were the one they were after.

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 02, 2017 02:39 PM (Z3ZUE)

461 Honestly, there are so many ways to attack a music festival like that. I've heard reports that the shooter had an aviation license, so a plane crash would have potentially done more damage.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (itfg0)


Whoa. Seriously. He could have fill up with gas cans too.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 02:40 PM (QQ+il)

462 Nood

Tami conjured it up!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (f7hW7)

I have the winning lottery numbers but I'm not sharing.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 02:40 PM (Enq6K)

463 Im seeing a video clip starting to float possi ly showing the shooter at an anti trump rally. Will be interesting to see if he ends up being a registered dem.

Posted by: Rumcrook at October 02, 2017 02:40 PM (4V3ga)

464 It's Las Vegas! No one is in there rooms at that time of night! Except for maniac gunmen. Fire away, move forward and reload and hope to get lucky. But, the smart money would surely be on the Samaritans, which it should be, because no one is covering them as they do their good deeds. And here we are in hindsight, wishing that life wasn't so cruel and unusual.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:41 PM (EaQ6/)

465 Firearms aren't allowed at music festivals like this. They check everyone entering the venue.
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 02, 2017 02:38 PM (

The Santa Barbara Bowl patted down my husband for the first time this year and the Fair had metal detectors and searched us. Not just at the entry to the concerts, at the entrance to the fairgrounds. First time ever.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 02:41 PM (Ri/rl)

466 398
Yeah, what's that, 400 yards? 300? 200? You know that's not a problem.
Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:29 PM (EaQ6/)


With concealed carry weapons?

Posted by: rickl at October 02, 2017 02:42 PM (xjiRE)

467 Yeah
Sounds like the shooter modified some ar15s
Still ,WOW he had a lot of guns in there (I hear between 10 and 30)

Posted by: Harley1911 at October 02, 2017 02:42 PM (rpN6y)

468 They didn't say when and how long it took him to amass 30 weapons.

Or why he figured he'd need the John Woo bag of guns

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 02, 2017 02:43 PM (39g3+)

469 426
What pesky block is that?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (tbOMB)



Don't ask, don't tell.





Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 02:34 PM (t3kPl)
If you are referring to the Colt lower blocks that prevent popping in a drop in full auto sear, only Colt altered their lowers (don't know if they still do) to prevent this, to my knowledge. As I recall, modifying an AK is even easier.

We are not talking about milling operations to go from semi to full. Select fire, sure, would be more difficult.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:43 PM (tbOMB)

470 Lightning link requires almost zero modification to the rifle

Posted by: Harley1911 at October 02, 2017 02:45 PM (rpN6y)

471 Imagine if the shooter was a Libyan "rebel" shooting up the Embassy with arms I shipped them.

Posted by: Hillary RPG Clinton at October 02, 2017 02:46 PM (Ndje9)

472 318
Vaginas have, get this, cul de sacs.

A Cul-de-Sac ack-ack-ack-ack?

Well you oughta know by now.

Posted by: Billy Joel at October 02, 2017 02:46 PM (ul9CR)

473 403 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashion/weddings/28Lattman.html

Who are the aristocrats? Who are the peasants?

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:30 PM (DQ4Fv)


Who is John Galt?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 02:47 PM (XMDuf)

474 Imagine if I gave this shooter a .50 machine gun like I gave al Chapo!

Posted by: Eric "Clip" Holder at October 02, 2017 02:48 PM (Ndje9)

475 472 318
Vaginas have, get this, cul de sacs.

A Cul-de-Sac ack-ack-ack-ack?

Well you oughta know by now.

Posted by: Billy Joel at October 02, 2017 02:46 PM (ul9CR)


Movin' Out jokes never get old.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 02:48 PM (XMDuf)

476 "At a guy in a 32nd story MG nest? Yeah, good luck with that...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 02:23 PM (AM1GF)

Yeah, what's that, 400 yards? 300? 200? You know that's not a problem. And it would be so much better than just doing nothing, is my point. But I see what you are saying. Let's just run and be targets instead."

Too bad Jerry Miculek wasn't there with his trusty revolver. That wouldn't been over after the first mag dump.

Posted by: D-FENS at October 02, 2017 02:48 PM (q1ack)

477 Not sure if the B2 sound post is sarc or not but speed of sound is 1100 ft/sec (750mph), those things probably fly by at twice that (1500 mph) so yeah you wouldn't hear it before you saw it.
Posted by: rammajamma at October 02, 2017 01:56 PM (AjNMO)

The B-2 bomber is a sub-sonic aircraft. Top speed is in the 650 to 700 range. The B-1 on the other hand, is a supersonic bomber with a top speed of around 1500.

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 02, 2017 02:49 PM (Z3ZUE)

478 Heard word the weapons were AK-47s. Grains of salt.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 02:27 PM (AM1GF)

That's what my moderately informed ear heard while listening to those videos.
The firing rate on the long burst while the music was playing was slower than other bursts.
I've heard full auto ak and burst 556, but not 7.62x51.
We'll find out eventually

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 02, 2017 02:52 PM (z79tQ)

479 I would prefer to shoot back. That's just rage talking, of course. The voice of helplessness. But if we don't stay enraged, then one of these days, on that day, we may hunker down and be done where we are hiding. No thanks.

Posted by: goon at October 02, 2017 02:53 PM (EaQ6/)

480
With luck, we'll get a bruising multi-way primary fight in 2019.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 02:24 PM


And if we're real lucky there will be actual bruises.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 02, 2017 02:54 PM (IqV8l)

481 Didn't it used to be true that you couldn't open casino hotel windows because the owners didn't want gamblers who had lost their shirts jumping out of them?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time at October 02, 2017 02:55 PM (ZM2xo)

482 High angle firing solutions are computed by multiplying the distance by tthe cosine of the firing angle. An uncorrected high angle shot will impact high (using a zero angle or flat solution) regardless of whether you're shooting 'up' or 'down'.

Posted by: Weasel at October 02, 2017 03:00 PM (Sfs6o)

483 Just home from work, being late to the threads I haven't had time to sift thru all the comments yet - so has anyone verified The Post's posting today that Paddock's father was a schizophrenic bank robber in the late 60s that had landed on the FBI's most wanted list back in 71?

Posted by: BebeDahl at October 02, 2017 03:02 PM (yNyJy)

484 Robert E Lee had no connection to Charlottesville.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (lqd9d)

Then I guess they can pull down that big old statue in New York harbore, 'cause there sure ain't no liberty in New York City.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 03:02 PM (O848g)

485 https://genius.com/Kinky-friedman-the-ballad-of-charles-whitman-lyrics
Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2017 02:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

Harry Chapin also did a song about the Texas massacre.

https://youtu.be/GWKpblxejWE

Posted by: Traveling Man at October 02, 2017 03:08 PM (Z3ZUE)

486 Clinton just won't go away. She blamed Trump for his poor response on Hurricane Maria except that is a lie. There are thousands of first responders and aid on the ground in PR.

Posted by: Cheri at October 02, 2017 03:11 PM (oiNtH)

487 Imagine the lives saved if terrorist-driven trucks could not legally have a muffler.

Posted by: db at October 02, 2017 03:21 PM (1FeO8)

488 We already know how this will play out:

Scenario A: Shooter was a Muslim shouting "Allahu Akbar" while he was firing: . "We may never know his motive--but let's confiscate all the guns!"

Scenario B: Shooter was some random nutcase: "Let's confiscate all the guns." (The ol' "A attacks B, giving Statist C the right to attack peaceful gun-owner D" fallacy.)

Scenario C: Shooter was another Bernie Bro or some other kind of leftist loon: "Nothing to see here. Move along."

Posted by: Bilwick at October 02, 2017 03:40 PM (kx9QW)

489 I don't know who John King is, but don't be slamming Silverback Gorillas. They are amazing leaders, fathers & protectors, and have more in common with Humans than most fathers in the animal kingdom.

Gorilla Pundit is a silverback also.

Don't cast aspersions on my Silverbacks. They outrank a large portion of people in their humanity.


Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla loves Silverbacks at October 02, 2017 04:58 PM (D2xaQ)

490 1. Never trust Hillary
2. Always bet against Hillary
3. Don't get tired of Hillary faceplanting.

Posted by: x at October 02, 2017 07:22 PM (nFwvY)

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