Tough Call: Julian Assange Offers Proof of the Falsity of the Russian Collusion Storyline -- for a Pardon

Actually, I don't think is that tough a call. We make deals with criminals every day if they can offer evidence in a more significant case.

Proof for a pardon, he says.

Given that we're right not pondering whether or not the President conspired with an enemy nation to #HackTheElection, I'd say that this offer does indeed qualify as a "more significant case."

The trouble is this: When he says "evidence," what type of evidence does he mean? Merely suggestive evidence, with some accompanying argumentation as to why you should take X conclusion based on Y evidence?

Or dispositive, that-resolves-it evidence?

The latter is worth a pardon; the former is not.

Now, no one has to make this decision blindly; the usual procedure, assuming Law & Order isn't lying to me, is that a witness seeking immunity will make a "proffer" of what evidence he has to present and prosecutors (or the AG, or president) will make a determination based on that proffer. And if his proffer overstates what he has and he doesn't actually deliver the proffered goods, the deal is off.

Still, this would be very controversial. I think the prog left media and the NeverTrumpers don't want any evidence that their cherished narrative is wrong.

I do. We should know one way or the other. The media has trumped this up into a national crisis, and if resolving a national crisis, one way or the other, involves a pardon for lawbreaker, so be it.

Hell, I think Obama was even thinking about pardoning this guy for no reason anyway.

And also: I don't even think a pardon will really keep Assange out of jail. Because he'll do the same shit next month, and then you can file an indictment against him based on his fresh lawbreaking.

Wikileaks Founder Ready to Provide Evidence Russian Collusion is False: https://t.co/YInCxl0NMw via @YouTube
— One America News (@OANN) September 27, 2017

Posted by: Ace at 08:12 PM

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1 May as well get in on the fun.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at September 29, 2017 04:16 PM (AM1GF)

2
It proves he's an agent for Putin!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:13 PM (EufUL)

3 Eh, the Right knows it was false, the Left will never believe it. I don't hintk it's worth it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:14 PM (CvKkm)

4 well... the swedish "rape" charges were dropped I think, so the only thing outstanding is an extradition to the US on some arcane espionage law that he'd almost definitely beat the charges on anyways, right?

So... I say just drop the extradition request. No pardon, per se, but he'll be free to move about the rest of the world.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:15 PM (wmaTe)

5
Still and yet: no.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 08:15 PM (M9+Yj)

6 If the NYT can publish leaked classified info, there is NO WAY the govt prevails in a case against assange, as publisher for wikileaks. No way. So why even pretend to keep the pressure up?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:16 PM (wmaTe)

7 also, FYI -- apparently it's considered rape in Sweden if there is a misunderstanding about a condom.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:16 PM (wmaTe)

8 Since Assange isn't an American citizen and has never set foot in the US, I think any potential charges against him are highly suspect.

Make the deal.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 08:16 PM (pvjTE)

9 There is absolutely nothing that you can do to make the Left believe anything outside their narrative; why waste a pardon on someone like this? (I actually have no idea what I think of him, I have not even looked into the rape case)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (CvKkm)

10 and let's be real -- (ladies, back me up on this) -- it's definitely, ahem, noticeable if there is a condom or not.

I kind of believe the conspiracyish stuff that Assange was set up on that charge to begin with.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (wmaTe)

11 Two words: Seth Rich.

Posted by: ShainS at September 29, 2017 08:18 PM (BiLU+)

12 I could see justifying this if it would allow PDT to take down the turncoat assholes involved from this side of the pond.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 08:18 PM (NWiLs)

13 Hell, I think Obama was even thinking about pardoning this guy for no reason anyway.

Obama was probably thinking about pardoning him because he loves pardoning people that damage the US. Remember Assange is the prick that ran all that stuff either Manning or Snowden released, or both of them.

Also Assange releasing any proof won't matter. They'll declare him a Russian agent so any evidence is immediately declared false.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (z/Ubi)

14 and let's be real -- (ladies, back me up on this) -- it's definitely, ahem, noticeable if there is a condom or not.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (wmaTe)

Oh, yeah, mmm

Posted by: John Holmes at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (mtGE/)

15 7 also, FYI -- apparently it's considered rape in Sweden if there is a misunderstanding about a condom.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:16 PM (wmaTe)

His only crime was not being a muslim.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

16 Is there anything anybody could tell Mueller that would make him fold up his tent?My guess is no.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (rmVvL)

17 can't prove a negative.

Posted by: a at September 29, 2017 08:20 PM (7utiO)

18 Obama was probably thinking about pardoning him because he loves pardoning people that damage the US. Remember Assange is the prick that ran all that stuff either Manning or Snowden released, or both of them.

Also Assange releasing any proof won't matter. They'll declare him a Russian agent so any evidence is immediately declared false.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (z/Ubi)

He published things whistle blowers sent him.

Kind of like the NYT and all American newspapers do fairly regularly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:21 PM (wmaTe)

19 16 Is there anything anybody could tell Mueller that would make him fold up his tent?My guess is no.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (rmVvL)

==============

"You're fired!" -- PDT

Posted by: ShainS at September 29, 2017 08:21 PM (BiLU+)

20 Assange's real crime was embarrassing HRC and Obama with the state department cables.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:21 PM (wmaTe)

21 I agree with Tammy. There is nothing he can produce that will make the left and nevertrump back off. It is not worth the PR hassle.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at September 29, 2017 08:22 PM (3DZIZ)

22 16 Is there anything anybody could tell Mueller that would make him fold up his tent?My guess is no.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (rmVvL)

++++

Trump could tell him he's fired.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 08:22 PM (pvjTE)

23 It just looks like some kind of, I don't know,groveling isn't the right word, but does Trump really want to be seen as looking for validation from Assange?

It's not like all of a sudden he's going to get anymore respect from anyone on the Left over this, but he does risk looking like a) a fool, if it turns out to be weak sauce, or b) like he is handing out pardons to get favorable testimony, for lack of a better word.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:23 PM (CvKkm)

24 RE: the NYT, if they're not going to punish them for publishing stolen CLASSIFIED information, then they should make a deal with Assange, who, in the case of the DNC emails, did not publish CLASSIFIED information.

Also... FWIW, Assange did not steal the information; it was given to him.

Make the deal and use the info from Wikileaks to crush the Democrats.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 08:23 PM (aT+Bx)

25 Sang this song for Putin

Posted by: Mr. Ed song played backwards at September 29, 2017 08:23 PM (IqV8l)

26 also, FYI -- apparently it's considered rape in Sweden if there is a misunderstanding about a condom.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:16 PM (wmaTe)

His only crime was not being a muslim.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

He should tell them he is and they'll grant a full pardon and throw him a parade

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 08:24 PM (auHtY)

27 Two words: Pizza parlor.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at September 29, 2017 08:24 PM (Tyii7)

28 Proof of no collusion. What a strange offer to make.

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2017 08:24 PM (iFP6G)

29 He should tell them he is and they'll grant a full pardon and throw him a parade
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 08:24 PM (auHtY)

He'll get a government-funded flat in Malmo.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 08:25 PM (NWiLs)

30 I guess the proof he is talking about is proof that the stuff was given to him by someone at the DNC not hacked.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:26 PM (rmVvL)

31
What's "c-i-c" on a ship?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:27 PM (EufUL)

32 What would be truly interesting would be if this was a traditional testimony for amnesty deal.

If Assange has evidence that others are guilty of illegal collusion to cast the appearance of impropriety on PDT, then we are talking.

Alas, the nature of his evidence can never really be used legally as it has been obtained illegally, and as such is inadmissible.

Even if it could be used superficially, the Dems would just claim it is unreliable or fake.

So basically, from where Im sitting, its of no use to our side. Now, if he wants to leverage their side with it, well....the enemy of my enemy....

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 08:27 PM (GQn43)

33
I'm under the impression that we already have evidence that russia didn't hack the election.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 29, 2017 08:28 PM (r+sAi)

34

Chimp In Charge?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:28 PM (EufUL)

35 Combat Information Center iirc.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:28 PM (rmVvL)

36 Two words: Seth Rich.

Is anyone still trying to push the narrative that the Rooskies hacked the DNC?

The DNC that had a spy ring running its IT department?

The Russian Collusion story has been reduced to "Putin wrote 'LuLz, Dood' on a video Trump posted on Fcebook!'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 08:29 PM (oVJmc)

37 You pardon someone you think has been wrongly imprisoned, or whatever.

You do not pardon someone for what they can do for you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:29 PM (CvKkm)

38
*?*

Kind of difficult to prove that something as vague as that *didn't* happen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 08:29 PM (y3sT9)

39
Ludmilla is a nice name for girl.

Lood-mill-ah

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:29 PM (EufUL)

40 Assange hasn't done anything the NYT hasn't done.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 08:30 PM (oVJmc)

41 You do not pardon someone for what they can do for you.

oh, come on.

Posted by: Raymond Reddington at September 29, 2017 08:30 PM (r+sAi)

42 I guess the proof he is talking about is proof that the stuff was given to him by someone at the DNC not hacked.
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The theory is that the information given to Wikileaks was provided by Seth Rich, who was later murdered.

This can supposedly be confirmed by Kim Dotcom, who offered to give evidence, however, it seems the Mueller is not interested.

/and when asked about the investigation and Assange, Sessions is happy to let Mueller and his 12,000 Hillary lawyers and investigators do their work. Muller's team might be ignoring evidence and not following leads, however, I'm told that it's proper for Sessions to keep his mouth shut and not comment on that.

Posted by: shibumi at September 29, 2017 08:31 PM (aT+Bx)

43 Oh, amnesty, not pardon. I was kind of wondering about that.

Still, though.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:31 PM (CvKkm)

44 I mean its not as if the press would jump all over these new revelations, whatever they might be.

You basically have proof that the former POTUS was wiretapping the current POTUS and you don't hear a squeak about it in the press.

Does anyone really think Mueller is gonna say "Well, there ya go. Nevermind, investigation over"?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 08:31 PM (GQn43)

45

If Julian Assange and the rapist bill clinton were both on fire, I would piss on Assange, but not clinton.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:31 PM (EufUL)

46 18 Obama was probably thinking about pardoning him because he loves pardoning people that damage the US. Remember Assange is the prick that ran all that stuff either Manning or Snowden released, or both of them.

Also Assange releasing any proof won't matter. They'll declare him a Russian agent so any evidence is immediately declared false.
Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (z/Ubi)

He published things whistle blowers sent him.

Kind of like the NYT and all American newspapers do fairly regularly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 08:21 PM (wmaTe)

So Bradley Manning is just a big damn hero blowing the whistle in your eyes huh?

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 08:32 PM (z/Ubi)

47 You do not pardon someone for what they can do for you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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Hell, I bought my pardon. Easy-peasey.
*tips hat to Clinton and Holder*

Posted by: Marc Rich at September 29, 2017 08:32 PM (y3sT9)

48 You know they're running Oliver Stone thru detox and prepping Costner for the Mueller movie, right?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 29, 2017 08:32 PM (n5CNg)

49 Who's he think he is, Snake Plissken?

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 08:32 PM (O5Q3r)

50 21 I agree with Tammy. There is nothing he can produce that will make the left and nevertrump back off. It is not worth the PR hassle.

"Ah-hah! You can't Q gprove a falsehood so that PROVES there was collusion!" (Between Trump and the Russians, that is. Our own decades-long collaboration doesn't count.)

Posted by: The Left at September 29, 2017 08:33 PM (iFP6G)

51 iirc, He's responsible for exposing Deep State.

If he was FBI or CIA he'd be a hero. But, no, he stepped on their toes. - Hi Bob.

Posted by: gNewt at September 29, 2017 08:33 PM (DElAm)

52 This was briefly alluded to in the last thread, but didn't Vladimir Putin steal somebody's Super Bowl ring once? Who was that, and did he ever get it back?

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 08:33 PM (sdi6R)

53 Huh? What? What time is it?

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at September 29, 2017 08:33 PM (Tyii7)

54 So Bradley Manning is just a big damn hero blowing the whistle in your eyes huh?
Posted by: buzzion
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I don't think he meant that as a defense of Manning.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 08:34 PM (y3sT9)

55 So Bradley Manning is just a big damn hero blowing the whistle in your eyes huh?
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Well, to many, James Comey is a hero for what he did. At least, that's what Colbert tells us.

Assange is like the Times; he's publishing leaked info.

He is not, like Manning and Comey, the one stealing the information.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 08:34 PM (aT+Bx)

56 both on fire, I would piss on Assange, but not clinton.

Fire axe?

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2017 08:35 PM (iFP6G)

57 Posted by: Marc Rich at September 29, 2017 08:32 PM (y3sT9)

Yea, I know, which is even more of a reason to just let Assange be.

Now, if there's a bunch of other stuff he can shed light on,then so be it, but RUSSIA!!!1!! is pretty much a non-story now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:36 PM (CvKkm)

58 52 Patriots owner I believe "showed" it to him and Vlad kept it.LOL

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:36 PM (rmVvL)

59 If Assange wants to turn "state's evidence" then I'd listen at least.

"So, Julian, why exactly do you think you need a U.S. pardon, anyway?" Would be a good question to ask during the negotiations.

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 08:37 PM (umyKO)

60 Also... there is a book called The Third Terrorist. It's about OK City Bombing.

The author makes a credible case that there was middle eastern involvement (specifically Saddam Hussein), and that Clinton would not let that information out, to protect our relationship with Saddam.

Fast forward into the future, and we're bombing Saddam.

People do deserve to know the truth. Even if it's not politically convenient.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 08:37 PM (aT+Bx)

61

Fire axe?

That's a different story.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:38 PM (EufUL)

62 He's been sitting on this info hoping someone might be interested. A LOT of information, in fact. He has tons of stuff for the justice department but they seem disinterested.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 08:38 PM (39g3+)

63 Well, I would have thought the O'Keefe videos of Van Jones and CNN producer saying that the Russian allegations are horseshit should have already put a nail in that coffin, but obviously the delusional Left isn't going to left it go.

They will ignore Assange as well.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2017 08:39 PM (v3DL/)

64

Assange in.

Mueller out.

Then Special Counsel for Clinton, Comey, Lynch et al. =

Moar winning.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at September 29, 2017 08:39 PM (oBuXO)

65 I know there is a lot of Assange hate here, and I sympathize with that. BUT ... Hillary wanted to "drone" him. He was disgusted by Hillary and had a significant role in diffusing her by revealing the Dem emails. So I'm not quite on the bandwagon with hating on him.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 29, 2017 08:40 PM (/qEW2)

66 It doesn't matter wbat the evidence is, it'll never convince Mad Maxine, Rachel Madcow, Queef Undermann, etc.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 29, 2017 08:40 PM (Nwg0u)

67 One word: Bosco

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2017 08:42 PM (imd6s)

68 9 There is absolutely nothing that you can do to make the Left believe anything outside their narrative; why waste a pardon on someone like this?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (CvKkm)

It's not about the Left; it's about the uncommitted. And any pardon could presumably be tailored to fit only political offenses.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:42 PM (SRKgf)

69 Greater threat?

Assange or the hardcore government leftists that are staging a coup against the people's will and Trump?

Took me picoseconds to decide.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 29, 2017 08:42 PM (7kLRC)

70 I swear our local radio talk show host reads AoS. He's picked up everything posted today. I wonder if he's a secret moron?

Posted by: Bosk at September 29, 2017 08:42 PM (fjMEv)

71 .......

Posted by: Seth Rich at September 29, 2017 08:42 PM (XFue2)

72 God himself could come down and tell us the Russian thing was a lie and the usual SJW/Media/Political figures would still insist the Russia narrative was true. They are operating in a mass hysteria bubble. Nothing pierces it. Nothing.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:43 PM (2zIj5)

73 I can prove it for free.

The sitting president of the United States employed government agencies (including the spy ones) to find any dirt on the Republican presidential candidate, and nothing came from the illegal surveillance.

Did I mention the sitting president was from Chicago?

Nothing came of it. With an openly hostile Chicago spymaster.

There's nothing there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 08:43 PM (rjrh3)

74 This was briefly alluded to in the last thread, but didn't Vladimir
Putin steal somebody's Super Bowl ring once? Who was that, and did he
ever get it back?

Bob Kraft's. And no.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 08:43 PM (O5Q3r)

75 Is there anything anybody could tell Mueller that would make him fold up his tent?My guess is no.

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What I'd like to see is a deadline imposed, say one week, and if Mueller doesn't produce substantial evidence, charge him with fraud and enbezz!ement.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 29, 2017 08:44 PM (Nwg0u)

76 After my last comment, I had a long sip of rum and coke and thought.

My thought was make the bastards on the lett pay. Make them play by their rules. No above the fray BS. We bring a M60 to a knife fight.

Why?

Because the left will. That's what they do. C-I-L-L THE LEFT. KILL THE LEFT.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 29, 2017 08:45 PM (7kLRC)

77

Correction:

There is absolutely nothing that will cause the Left to abandon their Fake Narrative until it's no longer politically viable.

"Believe" has nothing to do with it.

NO ONE believes this Russian collusion bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:45 PM (EufUL)

78 SJWs, Media, Govt.

The 3 Monkeys of the Apocalypse.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:46 PM (2zIj5)

79 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:45 PM (EufUL)

We don't have to believe this crap comrade, it's enough that we can force you to believe this crap!

Posted by: Uniparty Nomenklatura at September 29, 2017 08:47 PM (gwPgz)

80 "God himself could come down and tell us the Russian
thing was a lie and the usual SJW/Media/Political figures would still
insist the Russia narrative was true. They are operating in a mass
hysteria bubble. Nothing pierces it. Nothing.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:43 PM (2zIj5)"

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You bring the knife to the gun fight. You think from your own perspective and I did too. The leftists are NOT in a mass hysteria bubble. The leftists are at war and they are without a doubt playing for keeps.

DO NOT THINK THEY ARE NORMAL DECENT AND CIVILIZED but misguided people. THE LEFT IS EVIL.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (7kLRC)

81 63 Well, I would have thought the O'Keefe videos of Van Jones and CNN producer saying that the Russian allegations are horseshit should have already put a nail in that coffin, but obviously the delusional Left isn't going to left it go.

They will ignore Assange as well.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2017 08:39 PM (v3DL/)

Again, it's not about the Left; there's no convincing them. There is, however, isolating them, by convincing people in the middle that they've been had.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (SRKgf)

82 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 29, 2017 08:40 PM (/qEW2)

I have lost track of who did what, but this dude is a foreigner, right? So as bad as he is, he doesn't hold a candle to Snowden and Manning. And Manning, as a member of the military, should have been hung.

Truly, I don't even remember exactly what Snowden leaked, and don't even know if he's still in Russia?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (CvKkm)

83 Assange provided the Clinton and DNC emails Breitbart published and many of us deplorables still on FB at the time linked so to get out the word in people's faces that Clinton is a criminal and without character.

I really like Assange. I think of him as an anti-hero.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (uYQ0x)

84 Assange in this case is the lesser of two evils. We can thank our incompetent and crooked deep state for making all this possible.

Posted by: William Eaton at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (MuTTO)

85 74 This was briefly alluded to in the last thread, but didn't Vladimir
Putin steal somebody's Super Bowl ring once? Who was that, and did he
ever get it back?

Bob Kraft's. And no.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 08:43 PM (O5Q3r)

those troll farms and facebook ads wouldn't pay for themselves

Posted by: Based Vlad at September 29, 2017 08:49 PM (XFue2)

86 76) yeah they need to be crushed like cockroaches.

Posted by: kallisto at September 29, 2017 08:49 PM (AAbgH)

87 I really like Assange. I think of him as an anti-hero.

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BINGO!!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 29, 2017 08:49 PM (7kLRC)

88

Who wants to see a cute kitten roaring (in Russian?)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jx6E-e0XOc

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:49 PM (EufUL)

89 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (7kLRC)

The war thing is part of their Mass Hysteria Bubble. That they are righteous & fighting some higher purpose battle.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:50 PM (2zIj5)

90 God himself could come down and tell us the Russian thing was a lie and the usual SJW/Media/Political figures would still insist the Russia narrative was true. They are operating in a mass hysteria bubble. Nothing pierces it. Nothing.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:43 PM (2zIj5)

Considering how the left hates God, I would expect nothing less of them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 08:51 PM (auHtY)

91 It's pretty neat to appreciate what they're able to accomplish all by pushing a narrative. IIRC there were only 16 or so unarmed (not peaceful, just unarmed) black dudes shot by police each year and they're going to collapse the NFL over it.

You have to admire that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 08:51 PM (rjrh3)

92 i say, see what he has, and, if it's credible, give him the pardon.

the Left will go ape shit, but gives a F? they go ape shit over everything and nothing, so it's a wash.

besides, he's been their darling and hero for years, so every time a talking head has the vapors, you simply quote all their supporting articles, commentary or tweets from the past, and ask them what's different this time?

it's well past time to fight fire with napalm, white phosphorus, thermite and FAE's.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 29, 2017 08:52 PM (xsabZ)

93 I do not really see Assange as anything other than anti-american scum. However, that does not mean he cannot be useful anti-american scum.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 29, 2017 08:52 PM (rb1zT)

94 If the leaker is not into butt stuff, the left will never praise xir as a hero.

Posted by: wooga at September 29, 2017 08:52 PM (ifGef)

95 Who wants to see a cute kitten roaring (in Russian?)?
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I think it might be a Munchkin.

Tiny legs.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 08:53 PM (aT+Bx)

96 Not a tough call to me. Not at all:

"We don't pay criminal targets in advance, Julian. Someone is going to have to trust someone here, and that means YOU trust US, not the other way around. Got it? Any questions about that?

Now, if you make a truthful & complete statement, answer all our follow-up questions, and then, if in our opinion you've made a truthful and complete proffer statement, your cooperation will be taken into consideration in our charging decisions.

That's all. Have your atty let us know what you decide to do, Julian. She can explain your sentence exposure to you as things stand right now."

Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 08:53 PM (Z8+SR)

97 Trump should tweet..."there is no evidence that will change leftist minds, this is a which hunt"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 29, 2017 08:53 PM (h1jJh)

98
Yeah, it has short legs.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:53 PM (EufUL)

99 Is there anything anybody could tell Mueller that would make him fold up his tent?

Mueller, you're under arrest for fraud and subversion.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 29, 2017 08:54 PM (s28y4)

100 Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 08:48 PM (uYQ0x)

Didn't Wikileaks (that was him, or his group anyway, right?) also publish stuff that was kind of funny/embarrassing, too?

Like one country talking smack about another?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 08:54 PM (CvKkm)

101 54 So Bradley Manning is just a big damn hero blowing the whistle in your eyes huh?
Posted by: buzzion
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I don't think he meant that as a defense of Manning.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 08:34 PM (y3sT9)

And my point was about why Obama would want to pardon this asshole. And he is an asshole, its just that he might occasionally do something we see as positive. But he's not someone out there fighting the good fight. What Assange did during the election was certainly positive towards Trump and might have helped him win. If that hadn't happened I can almost certainly see Obama giving him a get out of jail free card just like he did to the tranny that was sitting in jail for giving information to Assange in the first place.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2017 08:55 PM (z/Ubi)

102 This reality winner chick seems like a really stable and valuable member of the human species. I am so glad our vetting process allowed her to have access to sensitive material.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 29, 2017 08:55 PM (rb1zT)

103 Trump should tweet that he won't do it even if the dude starts wearing dresses and calls himself Julianne.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 29, 2017 08:56 PM (rjrh3)

104 Give him a pardon and the Medal of Freedom and shove him in the dem commies faces every day until the end of time.

Julian should be put in charge of the FCC and turn him loose on the MSM.

Alinsky 101.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 29, 2017 08:56 PM (nUkMr)

105 Here I sit 18 months sober and wondering why. News last couple of weeks has me inside out, boy, it's turned me upside down and round and round. For the sake of my sobriety, I think I need to disengage.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 29, 2017 08:56 PM (99Nt9)

106 It's pretty neat to appreciate what they're able to accomplish all by pushing a narrative.
----------

Well, for the average person, every bit of 'information' that they are exposed to is that narrative. They have no other reference.

There are any number of people that I know who are reasonable people, and reasonably intelligent people, but they have been so exposed to the Left's narrative by the media (ALL of the media), that they accept it as objective truth because they have heard nothing that contradicts that narrative.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 08:57 PM (nBBdT)

107 88

Who wants to see a cute kitten roaring (in Russian?)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jx6E-e0XOc
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:49 PM (EufUL)

We can't have a cute kitten video gap!

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 08:57 PM (sdi6R)

108 Tammy, in the months before the election, he published all this embarrassing stuff from the DNC, I remember. Exposed the Clinton Foundation's Pay to Play, the crimes against Bernie.

IMO, Wikileaks is why the b---tch's campaign invented the terms 'fake news' and the stupid Russian collusion story.

I picture the Wizard of Oz saying pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Wikileaks, or Assange, revealed the DNC and Clinton. And maybe his information could hang her.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 08:58 PM (uYQ0x)

109 105 Here I sit 18 months sober and wondering why. News last couple of weeks has me inside out, boy, it's turned me upside down and round and round. For the sake of my sobriety, I think I need to disengage.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 29, 2017 08:56 PM (99Nt9)

Yes, disengage!! Don't let their crazy antics make you and your sobriety another casualty. I disengage all the time. You have to have a counterbalance.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:59 PM (2zIj5)

110 His name was Seth Rich.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 29, 2017 09:00 PM (fA1SL)

111 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:49 PM (EufUL)

Why won't they feed the wee baby darling?!

Also, fuck you; now I want ALL THE KITTENS!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 09:01 PM (CvKkm)

112 Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:59 PM (2zIj5)

Ask yourself "What, of true significance in my life, will I miss if I disengage?"

Posted by: Uniparty Nomenklatura at September 29, 2017 09:02 PM (gwPgz)

113 Russkilitlover if you've forgotten why you're sober it may be time to talk to a newcomer, go to a meeting, work a step, or drink. All those things will refresh your memory.

Posted by: 25 years sober at September 29, 2017 09:02 PM (uYQ0x)

114 105 Here I sit 18 months sober and wondering why. News last couple of weeks has me inside out, boy, it's turned me upside down and round and round. For the sake of my sobriety, I think I need to disengage.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 29, 2017 08:56 PM (99Nt9)

I'm not sober, but I have to disengage sometimes to preserve what's left of my sanity.

Go ahead and disengage. We'll be here when you come back.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 09:02 PM (sdi6R)

115 His name was Seth Rich.
--

Yes.

But the truth isn't convenient or useful, so we don't need to tell it.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (aT+Bx)

116 I don't hate Assange but I do consider him a freelance spy on all nations, which is not a good thing. His idea of what should be free information is not necessarily wise or good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (39g3+)

117 You can't prove a negative. Even if he can provide proof that the DNC emails and Podesta emails came from the inside, Trump will have clearly colluded with the russians in another way. Trump colluded with the russians, and the russians colluded with seth rich. Nothin will make this stupid thing go away until Mueller gets a Trump or Kushner head on a pike.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (BoMuO)

118 Posted by: Russkilitlover at September 29, 2017 08:56 PM (99Nt9)

No... stay strong girl! It's actually all good.

Well, not ALL good, but some of it has been epic!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (CvKkm)

119 But the truth isn't convenient or useful, so we don't need to tell it.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (aT+Bx)

Besides, you can't handle the truth!

Posted by: Uniparty Nomenklatura at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (gwPgz)

120 Assange won't be pardoned. This is all trolling.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 09:04 PM (RrhD2)

121 Only if the source was Seth Rich

Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 09:04 PM (H5T1o)

122 Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 08:58 PM (uYQ0x)

Yes, I do remember that. Before all that, there was other stuff, more against our side/country, and I remember being shocked that he/they were torching the Clintons.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 09:05 PM (CvKkm)

123 Nothin will make this stupid thing go away until Mueller gets a Trump or Kushner head on a pike.
---

So we should just give up and let Muller act like a god-king and destroy innocent people?

Or should we just collectively demand that Trump resign and install Hillary as president?

Would that be the best thing for everyone?

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 09:05 PM (aT+Bx)

124 Nothin will make this stupid thing go away until Mueller gets a Trump or Kushner head on a pike.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (BoMuO)

Or vice versa.

Posted by: filbert at September 29, 2017 09:05 PM (umyKO)

125 @ #31: Combat Information Center, or in today's Navy, WWGTN (Where Watchstanders Go To Nap)

BoyNsea

Posted by: BoyNsea at September 29, 2017 09:06 PM (Kh5Q4)

126 Yabba-Dabba Doo!

Work week is done! Time for a Redbreast on the rocks at my watering hole and then off to the house to prepare for SEC football tomorrow.

Catch you 'rons later on the ONT!

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 09:07 PM (GQn43)

127 Assange to answer the question: Are you still beating your wife? News at 11.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:07 PM (BoMuO)

128 *removes stocking full of gratitude*

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 09:07 PM (uYQ0x)

129 if he can prove Seth Rich was the leaker (and he ought to be able to do that) I'd say pardon him.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 29, 2017 09:08 PM (P8951)

130 Here's Crowder doing an interview by webcam.

With Clint Howard.

In a hot tub.

I may never sleep again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ieEgrY_Bc

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 09:08 PM (oVJmc)

131 Combat Information Center, or in today's Navy, WWGTN (Where Watchstanders Go To Nap)

I didn't see that freighter and I was in the CIC all night!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:08 PM (BoMuO)

132 Is there anything anybody could tell Mueller that would make him fold up his tent?

Mueller, you're under arrest for fraud and subversion.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 29, 2017 08:54 PM (s28y4)

See these pictures? I understand you and Paolo, but what's with the chimp?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Football Season! Nincompoopery and Jackassery on Sale at The Outrage Outlet at September 29, 2017 09:09 PM (66/E/)

133 "We don't pay criminal targets in advance, Julian.
Someone is going to have to trust someone here, and that means YOU trust
US, not the other way around. Got it? Any questions about that?

Now, if you make a truthful complete statement, answer all our
follow-up questions, and then, if in our opinion you've made a truthful
and complete proffer statement, your cooperation will be taken into
consideration in our charging decisions.

That's all. Have your atty let us know what you decide to do,
Julian. She can explain your sentence exposure to you as things stand
right now."
Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 08:53 PM (Z8+SR)
---
sounds like the sort of offer an Obama/Hillary loving DOJ employee would make, hoping to kill any deal and thus, the evidence.

who's side are you on?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 29, 2017 09:09 PM (xsabZ)

134 I'd pay for the proof that Clinton Fostered Seth Rich.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:09 PM (BoMuO)

135 Assange was trying to tell us about Seth Rich, and no one would listen.

I hope President Trump pardons him.

Even though the collusion story is weak, I would like to see Clinton convicted of some crimes.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 09:11 PM (uYQ0x)

136 Nothin will make this stupid thing go away until Mueller gets a Trump or Kushner head on a pike.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:03 PM (BoMuO)

Or vice versa.

Mueller puts a pike on Kushner? Jared doesn't look like the type to touch a fish unless it is lightly grilled with a butter sauce.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:11 PM (BoMuO)

137 Tzam Kal, to those who are fasting, and not here to see my words, LOL.

G'mar Hatimah Tovah.

And may God keep and protect each one of you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 09:12 PM (CvKkm)

138 You pardon someone you think has been wrongly imprisoned, or whatever.

You do not pardon someone for what they can do for you.

===

True. Usually its amnesty. (See Comey da Clown)

Is he asking for a pardon and hoping to negotiate for amnesty and protection from extradition?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:13 PM (2wRtc)

139 >>>Assange was trying to tell us about Seth Rich, and no one would listen.

Trying how? Doesn't he know how to use words?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 09:14 PM (RrhD2)

140 Nothin will make this stupid thing go away until Mueller gets a Trump or Kushner head on a pike.
---

So we should just give up and let Muller act like a god-king and destroy innocent people?

Or should we just collectively demand that Trump resign and install Hillary as president?

Would that be the best thing for everyone?

I don't see Trump firing him. Either that happens or he WILL find a Scooter Libby. JFC I wasn't even in the "Make Hillary president" ballpark and you take it there. Fuck off.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:14 PM (BoMuO)

141 Ace, forwarded your stuff about Crowder to a local/National guy. This will be all over DFW news come Monday morning. I will also get the early morning guy on Monday to go with this.

I would try your email but I probably have as much luck right here.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:15 PM (uPuhE)

142 Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:13 P

Christ, I dunno, I reckon that's it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 09:15 PM (CvKkm)

143 Trump needs to keep this offer in his hip pocket as a get out of jail free card. In case Mueller trumps up some false narrative. No need to play that hand just yet.

Posted by: EmpireHasNoClothes at September 29, 2017 09:16 PM (tTBAb)

144 dispositive... i like it. nice word.

i say nope to a "pardon". assange has not been convicted of a crime. has he even been charged?

but i like the word dispositive.

"i can use the word dispositive in a sentence."

hey, i did it!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 29, 2017 09:16 PM (AxFdW)

145 OT: Operation Regional Shield is cleaning up the country's gang and criminal alien problem, thanks to some hard work by AG Sessions.

He's also put together some incriminating timelines that show how the imposter that used to be president ripped us all off and gave our money and amnesty to these enemies.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 09:17 PM (uYQ0x)

146 Now, if you make a truthful complete statement, answer all our
follow-up questions, and then, if in our opinion you've made a truthful
and complete proffer statement, your cooperation will be taken into
consideration in our charging decisions.

That's all. Have your atty let us know what you decide to do,
Julian. She can explain your sentence exposure to you as things stand
right now."
Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 08:53 PM (Z8+SR)

Sorry.... but you are totally incorrect... the DOJ under Obama did EXACTLY that for everyone involved with the Hillary stuff...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 29, 2017 09:17 PM (NgKpN)

147 Sorry. My mistake then.

Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 09:18 PM (Z8+SR)

148 139 He used words. on the air, to Sean Hannity.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 09:18 PM (uYQ0x)

149 Does anybody really believe that Mueller will wrap up this investigation in a few months with "Whelp we looked at everything, and din find nuffin. Trump and everyone around him are clean!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 09:18 PM (BoMuO)

150 It matters what they are really doing here.

If he is asking for amnesty it comes from and reflects on DOJ.

If he is asking for a pardon, that comes straight from Trump and potentially could render his testimony inadmissible. I think.

I think Trump has to rely on the people he has in place to go forward with an amnesty but they may not be enough on it's own to protect Assange.

The terms of the deal will be interesting reading.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:19 PM (2wRtc)

151
Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -

Posted by: freaked at September 29, 2017 09:19 PM (UdKB7)

152 143 Trump needs to keep this offer in his hip pocket as a get out of jail free card. In case Mueller trumps up some false narrative. No need to play that hand just yet.
Posted by: EmpireHasNoClothes at September 29, 2017 09:16 PM (tTBAb)

disagree.... Trump needs to strike NOW and stop the Witch Hunt...

They are going back YEARS in business records... just trying to find something to justify the investigation.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 29, 2017 09:20 PM (NgKpN)

153
if he can prove Seth Rich was the leaker (and he ought to be able to do that) I'd say pardon him.
---

Hacker Kim Dotcom says can confirm. His lawyers have supposedly been in contact with the authorities.

However.. Mueller team.. not interested.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 09:20 PM (aT+Bx)

154 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

155 Correct me here. Assange is not an American citizen. How can any US court or President give him immunity.

Pardon my ignorance.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:22 PM (uPuhE)

156 This has to really be played carefully.

These assholes are drooling for the chance to have ANY evidence of their Queen Bitch's corruption rendered inadmissible.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:23 PM (2wRtc)

157 Your ignorance is not even registering a One on thebignoramusmeter tonight, Ben.

Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 09:23 PM (Z8+SR)

158 We've got several 11s posting.

Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 09:24 PM (Z8+SR)

159 Correct me here. Assange is not an American citizen. How can any US court or President give him immunity.

Immunity from prosecution. Basically agreeing that the US will not pursue charges.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 09:24 PM (oVJmc)

160 There are different types of immunity.

Posted by: mnw at September 29, 2017 09:25 PM (Z8+SR)

161 However.. Mueller team.. not interested.

Posted by: vyx at September 29, 2017 09:20 PM (aT+Bx)

Rules of evidence are different for a political witch hunt, it's all about the end result.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:25 PM (gwPgz)

162 and what's more, Banana splits guy, all the nevertrumpers and leftards screamed that Hannity was bonkers for having Assange on his show saying that someone was killed for giving him those emails. and you say:

Trying how? Doesn't he know how to use words?

sheeeee it.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 09:25 PM (uYQ0x)

163 Just checking in for the day - everything go to shit yet?

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:27 PM (1RvQb)

164 Just checking in for the day - everything go to shit yet?

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:27 PM (1RvQb)

It never stopped!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:28 PM (gwPgz)

165 Correct me here. Assange is not an American citizen. How can any US court or President give him immunity.

Pardon my ignorance.

Posted by: Ben Had
==

Naw , Ben it's a damn good question. He is not a citizen and any visa granted to him would have to be under a special class of visas given to aliens for the purpose testifying in court.

An imm law judge would have to grant it and there would be levels of review before it could happen. Meaning lots of loose shit aka opportunity for black-robed thug monkey wrenches.

And that doesn't begin to even touch the evaluation of any testimonial evidence for admissibility.

The entire Deep State is on pins and needles ready to hammer this guy.

Not to mention the obvious defense path here " Aren't you on the lam from a rape charge , Mr Assange?"

It's a paperwork, immigration legal and logistical nightmare.

Assange better have something fucking ironclad.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:29 PM (2wRtc)

166 Posted by: EmpireHasNoClothes at September 29, 2017 09:16 PM (tTBAb)

Oooh, great point.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 09:30 PM (CvKkm)

167 Weasel, good sir. It is all relative.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:30 PM (uPuhE)

168 Aw, man! The pear I stole out of the fruit bowl at breakfast and saved for dessert is all mushy.

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:30 PM (1RvQb)

169 >>>and what's more, Banana splits guy, all the nevertrumpers and leftards screamed that Hannity was bonkers for having Assange on his show saying that someone was killed for giving him those emails. and you say:

How does Assange "try to tell us about Seth Rich" while carefully avoiding ever saying it was Seth Rich? Does he not know how to use words? Or is he just trolling?

You're being played.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 29, 2017 09:30 PM (RrhD2)

170 If he is pardoned, I sure hope Julian doesn't hang himself in his hotel room when he gets out or gets shot trying to escape before the hearing or go for a late night walk in D.C.

Or visit Haiti for vacation.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 29, 2017 09:30 PM (nUkMr)

171 154 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

Dis-stuck > __

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (SjcEJ)

172 167 Weasel, good sir. It is all relative.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:30 PM (uPuhE)
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Well that's true! Let me be more specific - shootin' start yet?

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (1RvQb)

173 Mortimer-Thank You.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:32 PM (uPuhE)

174 171 154 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

Dis-stuck > __

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (SjcEJ)

Disfunction > f(x)

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:32 PM (gwPgz)

175 Someone is starting to sweat:

NBA reiterates to teams: Players must stand

Way to take one for the team, NFL!

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2017 09:33 PM (kuiuS)

176 169 nah. I think what I think.

Posted by: booknlass at September 29, 2017 09:33 PM (uYQ0x)

177 At this point the which hunt is only making the left look bad. Keep up the investigation. Does anyone have a figure for how much money has been wasted on "Hillary's Hail Mary" so far.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 29, 2017 09:34 PM (h1jJh)

178 NBA reiterates to teams: Players must stand

They are REALLY not used to pushback.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 09:34 PM (oVJmc)

179 An imm law judge would have to grant it and there would be levels of review before it could happen.
===

Actually the judge is not needed for the visa. That would be ICE and State.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:34 PM (2wRtc)

180 Weasel

No, but there may have been ammo purchases and/or loading extra magazines.

Everyone is practicing OPSEC and keeping their own actions / target list private from Bob of NSA in the FANEX Ops room.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 09:34 PM (hyuyC)

181 Weasel- all my feral pigs belong to you. Shoot to kill. The only time those words won't get me banned.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:35 PM (uPuhE)

182
Colin Kaepernick donated $25,000 to group named after convicted cop killer and former Black Liberation Army member Assata Shakur who broke out of jail and fled to Cuba.

If you have to flee TO Cuba, you know it's bad.

At Instytarian

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at September 29, 2017 09:36 PM (3myMJ)

183 We have St Louis morons here right? BLM and their white wannabes are revolting outside Busch Stadium during game.

Posted by: The Gimp at September 29, 2017 09:36 PM (jdWK0)

184 I mentioned to bluebell earlier - I attended a competition today which opened with a cannon salute and playing of the National Anthem. Not a single one of the 200 or so participants felt compelled to do anything other than stand with their hand over their heart.

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:38 PM (1RvQb)

185 183 We have St Louis morons here right? BLM and their white wannabes are revolting outside Busch Stadium during game.

Posted by: The Gimp at September 29, 2017 09:36 PM (jdWK0)

Hmm, I find BLM and their white wannabes to be revolting no matter where they are.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:38 PM (gwPgz)

186 Someone is starting to sweat:

NBA reiterates to teams: Players must stand

Way to take one for the team, NFL!

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2017 09:33 PM (kuiuS)

Does that include well known Trump hater, LaBastard James?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 09:38 PM (auHtY)

187 We have St Louis morons here right? BLM and their white wannabes are revolting outside Busch Stadium during game.

Posted by: The Gimp at September 29, 2017 09:36 PM (jdWK0)

They're upset that the Brewers are winning?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 29, 2017 09:39 PM (auHtY)

188 Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:29 PM (2wRtc)

the issue is that the DOJ is after him for 'releasing classified material'....

You know... he released things leaked to him... just like the DAMN MEDIA DOES HERE ALL THE TIME....

But he is under indictment... as the US declared we have worldwide jurisdiction if it has anything at all to do with the US (how we got Norriega).

Posted by: Don Q. at September 29, 2017 09:39 PM (NgKpN)

189 Not a single one of the 200 or so participants felt compelled to do anything other than stand with their hand over their heart.

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:38 PM (1RvQb)

Worst part is that not too long ago, no one would ever bother to post that because it was unthinkable to do otherwise. The left has pulled off another ratchet!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:39 PM (gwPgz)

190 Someday we'll have to hold a precision rifle class!

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:39 PM (1RvQb)

191 We should declare war on Wikileaks because we need bipartisanship. My friends across the aisle want Assange silenced and that's good enough for me. Which aisle is immaterial; we need war.

Posted by: John McCain at September 29, 2017 09:40 PM (H8S+R)

192 discovery - covers just about everything, or just really likes to dance.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 29, 2017 09:41 PM (AxFdW)

193 Weasel

Totally not the Matt Bracken "two rifles, two pick-up" distance shooting class from "What I Saw at the Coup." Totally not that, thank goodness.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 09:42 PM (hyuyC)

194 Weasel, would 5 round bales in a line serve as a birm for target practice?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:43 PM (uPuhE)

195 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

Dis-stuck > __

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (SjcEJ)

Disfunction > f(x)
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Disroot (4) > 2

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:44 PM (9tO1t)

196 Trump's plan for success:
1- Float the idea of pardoning Assange in exchange for exculpatory Russian data
2- See NRO's reaction tomorrow
3- Do the opposite
4: Get re-elected in 2020

Posted by: Grimaldi at September 29, 2017 09:45 PM (6D6Qk)

197 The Gimp: "We have St Louis morons here right? BLM and their white wannabes are revolting outside Busch Stadium during game."

You said it. They stink on ice!

Posted by: King Louis Brooks at September 29, 2017 09:45 PM (H8S+R)

198
Hmm, I find BLM and their white wannabes to be revolting no matter where they are.
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:38 PM

Are their white wannabes the 21st century Patty Hearsts?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 09:45 PM (IqV8l)

199 My favorite Assange coup was the U of East Anglia CRU - hide the decline. Tell me again this guy should do life. He's a bloody hero.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 29, 2017 09:46 PM (Jj+59)

200 Nah, Salty. Maybe mid-range out to 600 yards or so. That would be fun!

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:47 PM (1RvQb)

201 199. All interesting and good, but for me, it's beyond the 10 mile zone of civic concern.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 29, 2017 09:48 PM (fA1SL)

202 Let him rot in the Ecuadorian Embassy. They deserve each other.

Seth would want it that way.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 29, 2017 09:48 PM (Ndje9)

203 Problem is only Trump can issue a pardon, but Trump is not the prosecutor investigating Trump the Russians, Mueller is. Anyone seriously think that Jim Comey's mentor and friend {Mueller} is going to ask Trump to pardon Assange so he will give his proof on the Russians?

Posted by: Locke Common at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (pYsP+)

204 Because he'll do the same shit next month, and then you can file an indictment against him based on his fresh lawbreaking.

What law did Jazz Hands actually break? If he were an American citizen, with a security clearance, who published the stuff in the NYT - we couldn't prosecute him.

Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (9TU00)

205 It depends - yes, if the fire was controlled and the rounds were impacting from a downward trajectory (and not having, say, a preschool behind the bales)

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (1RvQb)

206 Should be fine when the crowd all comes out right by them

Posted by: The Gimp at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (jdWK0)

207 Seth Rich was killed more than 10 miles from me. So whatevs.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (sdi6R)

208 Just saw the comment from Gumdrop in a previous thread about testing teachers on communism and socialism.

I'm a high school social studies teacher. I tell my classes openly, that while I sincerely want them to speak for themselves and I see it as my job to be neutral and opinion-free, I am staunchly anti-communist and hold no reservations about being biased as shit on that particular topic.

Then I tell them in gory detail how communism murdered 100 million people in the last century alone, and continues to increase its body count today. I don't care what class it is- I'll get this in there.

So don't write off all teachers. Some of us out here speak the truth about evil in this world.

Posted by: CPT11A at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (YmXed)

209 Weasel

Sure sounds like fun!

I need something like a model 93 H & K rifle instead of my 30-06 Sig deer rifle. Which I have zeroed to 100 yds. Add several sandbags and I'm a good shot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 09:52 PM (hyuyC)

210 195 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

Dis-stuck > __

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (SjcEJ)

Disfunction > f(x)
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Disroot (4) > 2
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:44 PM (9tO1t)

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Dispi > 3.14

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:52 PM (SjcEJ)

211 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

Dis-stuck > __

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (SjcEJ)

Disfunction > f(x)
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Disroot (4) > 2

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:44 PM (9tO1t)

Distan (pi/4) > 1

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:52 PM (gwPgz)

212 'I did what had to be done.' WWII vet from Missouri receives France's highest honor

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7khbrm7

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 09:53 PM (oVJmc)

213 Weasel, there is a 1/4 mile of woods before any house or cattle. A lot of people have asked me about bringing a gun to shoot at the meet up and I would like to try to accommodate that.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:53 PM (uPuhE)

214 My friends across the aisle want Assange silenced and that's good enough for me.

When you say 'across the aisle', John, what exactly do you mean? We're never sure if it's the real you or the fictional you talking.

Posted by: t-bird at September 29, 2017 09:53 PM (H0quv)

215 211 Dispositive > +
Datnegative > -
Posted by: freaked
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Disneutral > 0
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:21 PM (nBBdT)

Dis-stuck > __

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:31 PM (SjcEJ)

Disfunction > f(x)
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Disroot (4) > 2

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 29, 2017 09:44 PM (9tO1t)

Dispi > 3.14

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 09:52 PM (SjcEJ)

Distan (pi/4) > 1
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 29, 2017 09:52 PM (gwPgz)

Posted by: Dat fixed at September 29, 2017 09:54 PM (SjcEJ)

216 Hard to prove person A never had contact with person B.
It's up to the one who claimed contact to prove it.

But you can prove person B did have contact with person C and destroy any credibility of an unproven claim that person A had contact with person B.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 29, 2017 09:55 PM (IWbvi)

217 155 Correct me here. Assange is not an American citizen. How can any US court or President give him immunity.

Pardon my ignorance.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:22 PM (uPuhE)

++++

He's not an American and he's never set foot on American soil. So, why would he need immunity from prosecution.

First off, he hasn't been charged with a crime, unless there's something under seal. But, the theory that get batted around is that he was part of a conspiracy to commit crimes in the USA. Like if he was in communication with Manning before Manning committed his crimes and Assange somehow helped or directed Manning in his criminal activities.

If all they can prove is that Assange received stolen intelligence from Manning and then published it, well, that's no crime.

But, Nixon was pardoned without being charged, so it should be an option for Assange if Trump was so inclined.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 09:55 PM (pvjTE)

218 I'm still concerned that Assange never publishes dirt on Putin, but that might be why he's still alive.

Posted by: Jean at September 29, 2017 09:55 PM (9TU00)

219
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 09:52 PM (hyuyC)
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It's a LOT of fun! And it's more funner when you can hit a small target repeatedly at that distance (or further)

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 09:55 PM (1RvQb)

220 It's too simple.

I say, promise Assange what he wants, if he doesn't deliver, well...'bye asshole.

This needs to boiled down and made into gravy. If no gravy, then it goes down the drain with the other contaminants, out of the Swamp

Assange must have something, or he wouldn't try to deal. Amran and Schultizie? Way too much going on in Dem politicsville.

All of the Keystone Kops are going out of their way, to distract Americans from the fact that there really is no election 'collusion'. That even with massive voter fraud, Queen of the Vampires, still couldn't be elected prom whore.

Posted by: Kay at September 29, 2017 09:56 PM (FW3BY)

221 I've had a long but hard day. Lots of hours came together to end a project.

C-I-L-L THE nfl. KILL THE nfl.

The black centric democrat-entertainment-acedemic world is really pissing me off. On some morning show today there was not ONE WHITE PERSON.

look at TV and the USA is 48% black, 28% homo. 24%???? but it sure ain't white people.....much less white males.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 29, 2017 09:57 PM (7kLRC)

222 He's not an American and he's never set foot on American soil. So, why would he need immunity from prosecution.
===

We have two-way extradition agreement with other countries. If they ask for him and there is nothing in place to protect him from that legally, we would have to honor the agreement.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:59 PM (2wRtc)

223 "C-I-L-L THE nfl. KILL THE nfl."

It's going to take care of that itself, Sunday.

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at September 29, 2017 10:00 PM (3myMJ)

224 You don't have to be a citizen to commit a crime. There is an active criminal investigation with grand jury about the leaking and publication of classified documents. There are reports Assange has been indicted by the grand jury and that the indictment is sealed. This is common practice when crimes deal with national security. Assange is in hiding out of fear that he will be extradited to USA.

Posted by: Locke Common at September 29, 2017 10:01 PM (pYsP+)

225 Top men will have to figure whether to deal with Assange.

And that's what we have.

Top. Men.

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at September 29, 2017 10:01 PM (3myMJ)

226 Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious

We are the ones with jobs that matter, values that uphold society, families that (uh get back to you later there) and taxes that keep societal collapse from happening tomorrow.

And the key is upholding those declasse values like a work ethic, mean what you say, follow-through. Anyone, and any ethnicity, can succeed with good values and knowledge.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 10:01 PM (hyuyC)

227 If Assange gets immunity from the United States he can come here, and nobody would extradite him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2017 10:01 PM (wYseH)

228
213 Weasel, there is a 1/4 mile of woods before any house or cattle. A lot of people have asked me about bringing a gun to shoot at the meet up and I would like to try to accommodate that.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:53 PM (uPuhE)
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Sure - I think we can work something out with that setup. We just need to be very mindful of anything in the potential impact area. Bales + unoccupied woods is probably a good start. Next we'd need a scoped rifle and a couple of other items - a couple of sandbags and maybe a steel plate. We can discuss offline, but I'd be happy to help.

Posted by: Weasel at September 29, 2017 10:01 PM (1RvQb)

229 Julian Assange supposedly has copies of the wire transfer into SR account. Or it could be his brother's account. He also supposedly has a lot more emails that he didn't publish. That's hard evidence. Besides that, anyone who has been reading Adam Carter, disobedient media, or any of the VIPS material knows the Russia story is a farce.
Layer on top of that the phony dossier, fusion GPS, the wiretapping, the unmasking, and the corruption of our intelligence agencies and I want heads to roll and people locked up.....starting with John Brennan.
100% pardon.
Easy fast to fellow tribe members!

Posted by: Flowerbelle at September 29, 2017 10:02 PM (AkAvN)

230 disco-very = just really likes to dance. get it?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 29, 2017 10:02 PM (AxFdW)

231 Posted by: CPT11A at September 29, 2017 09:50 PM (YmXed)

Thank you.

The kids you influence will be the ones who save our country in the coming years.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 29, 2017 10:02 PM (CvKkm)

232 Weasel, there is a 1/4 mile of woods before any house or cattle. A lot of people have asked me about bringing a gun to shoot at the meet up and I would like to try to accommodate that.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 09:53 PM (uPuhE)

Yay!! : )

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 29, 2017 10:02 PM (Jcg9Q)

233 the issue is that the DOJ is after him for 'releasing classified material'....

You know... he released things leaked to him... just like the DAMN MEDIA DOES HERE ALL THE TIME....

But he is under indictment... as the US declared we have worldwide
jurisdiction if it has anything at all to do with the US (how we got
Norriega).
===

That can and would be part of an amnesty deal.

Again, see Comey's brilliant maneuverings on behalf of the staff of Empress Falls-a-Lot.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 10:02 PM (2wRtc)

234
If it's Project Veritas level "evidence" - pass.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 29, 2017 10:04 PM (pNxlR)

235 222 He's not an American and he's never set foot on American soil. So, why would he need immunity from prosecution.
===

We have two-way extradition agreement with other countries. If they ask for him and there is nothing in place to protect him from that legally, we would have to honor the agreement.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 09:59 PM (2wRtc)

++++

Extradition is a different issue. Point being, he's an Australian who has never visited America. He doesn't have to obey American law.

How would you feel about France wanting to extradite an American for some French law France said he violated while he was in America? I would be extremely skeptical.

Furthermore, Assange has not been charged with breaking a law in America. He just suspects he will be if we can get our hands on him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 10:06 PM (pvjTE)

236 The ONT is up, up and away.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 29, 2017 10:06 PM (qJtVm)

237 NaCly, at that range your 30-06 is pretty close to my 7mm mag.
Mine shoots a bit flatter but if you set your scope to hit 1.5 inches high at 100 yds it'll be on at 200.
Then you can just treat anything out to 200 like point blank for deer hunting purposes.

Posted by: teej at September 29, 2017 10:07 PM (wOZdC)

238 Country Boy- I have an amendment to one of the T-shirts. Is it too late?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 29, 2017 10:07 PM (uPuhE)

239 teej

Thanks!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 29, 2017 10:09 PM (hyuyC)

240 How would you feel about France wanting to extradite an American for
some French law France said he violated while he was in America? I would
be extremely skeptical.
===

Not being a dick here, but it doesn't matter how I feel.

If our law enforcement agreement says that an American accused of rape that flees to Sweden is subject to extradition? Then it works both ways.

He didn't hole up in the Ecuadorian embassy because he liked the wallpaper.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 10:10 PM (2wRtc)

241 Hard to prove person A never had contact with person B.
It's up to the one who claimed contact to prove it.

Why do you think we always make non-provable hysterical claims?!

Posted by: The Left at September 29, 2017 10:11 PM (H0quv)

242 You bet.
Anytime.

Posted by: teej at September 29, 2017 10:13 PM (wOZdC)

243 Not being a dick here, but it doesn't matter how I feel.

If our law enforcement agreement says that an American accused of rape that flees to Sweden is subject to extradition? Then it works both ways.

He didn't hole up in the Ecuadorian embassy because he liked the wallpaper.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 29, 2017 10:10 PM (2wRtc)

++++

Again, Assange is NOT an American. Never has been. He has never been on American soil. The rape charge was based on events in Sweden (thought to be ginned up by Swedes trying to curry favor with the Obama administration).

He is Australian.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 10:30 PM (FUu/Z)

244 Drone his ass and say "pardon accepted."

It's time for the kid gloves to come off.

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2017 11:17 PM (QCc6B)

245 Contrary to #37 above and others: President Clinton pardoned Marc Rich. Rich had fled the jurisdiction and refused to submit to judgment by US courts. He did do something for the pardon....by having his ex-wife donate $1 million toe the DNC promptly. She wasn't one to, otherwise, let go of such money free of strings. Therefore, pardoning Assange is a good idea, provided the terms of his information provision are made very clear.

I think the Assange-Snowden-Manning saga is one long tale. At some point the public actually needed to know the extent of government surveillance. I note that Manning did nothing significant to earn his freedom, his light sentence. He revelations were, additionally, of no use to the public beyond embarrassing Clinton. Inquiring minds want to know....why the DNC refused to permit the FBI to examine its server.

Posted by: ropingdown at September 30, 2017 12:53 AM (La9Gu)

246

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 30, 2017 04:10 AM (mpXpK)

247 Maybe Trump should offer Assange a pardon (for what, incidentally?) if Assange can convince the Editorial Board of the Washington Post that the story is false.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at September 30, 2017 04:18 PM (84MDv)

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